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DiscussionLEDN42/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 05:34 PM
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DiscussionLEDN42/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:25 PM
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Good points. I think things like marriage and the discouraging of premarital sex developed among humans as a method to counter some of the more self centered desires in humans when it comes to sexual selection. If men don’t have access to sex outside of a committed relationship then their priorities change to preferring virginity or a low body count as that increases his chances of personal reproductive success in that context. In theory if the rules of marriage are strictly followed by everyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 11:12 PM
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That’s just how I talk. What you say I wouldn’t necessarily say is wrong. I just like more thoroughly exploring why humans engage in the behaviors they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:54 PM
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In my life experience most men are fine with having meaningless sex with highly experienced women if no commitment is expected, but when it comes to a longer term commitment they prefer women with as low a body count as possible. My personal theory is that this is because men’s instincts assume that if a woman is more inexperienced or even a virgin that this greatly increases the chances that her next child is actually his. So men associate a woman having a low body count and/or being a virgin w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:50 PM
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Good question. I’d have to think on that. I have noticed that while most men are okay with sleeping with more promiscuous women, few are willing to actually be with them long term. Perhaps this is because our more primal instincts see it as an opportunity to reproduce with a lower need for commitment as men could just move on while still technically having been successful at reproducing. This ties into why I think humans developed institutions like marriage. Ancient people understood that if fol…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:42 PM
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I theorize it’s because things like HIV no longer being a death sentence have made people give safe sex less priority. When I was in high school safe sex was all the rage. When I got to college safe sex was treated almost like a dirty word or buzz kill that would ruin the mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 09:24 PM
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Don’t forget microplastics having destroyed men’s testosterone levels by 59% since the 70s, and plastics won’t stop being used any time soon so there will be no recovery from this in our lifetimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:55 PM
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It turns marriage into a fashion accessory and not the crucial civilization building institution that it’s meant to be. No-fault divorce should be illegal if kids are involved. What’s even the point of the vows if you’re not going to follow them? Getting a divorce to escape abuse or because one has been cheated on is one thing. Getting a divorce because you’re bored? Selfishness of the highest order.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 03:48 PM
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Human nature isn’t something that changes quickly. 10,000 years is a blink of an eye in relation to the entire history of human evolution. This position you posit is also an assumption that male strength is something that isn’t needed in the modern day. Even if that was true, it’s a big assumption to make that it will never be needed again or that the progress of humanity won’t ever suffer a setback again. If the modern world collapsed tomorrow, traditional gender roles and expectations would re…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:44 AM
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I hope not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:55 PM
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Certainly wasn’t trying to paint the past as some ideal situation. Was not my intention. My intention was to add some nuance I feel was missing. The idea of absolute individual autonomy is indeed a fairly new concept in society. In the past the parents had tremendous influence over their children. Both over who their daughters married and what profession their sons took up. I see this as less of the children being the property of the parents as it simply being seen as the parent’s job to put the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 09:15 PM
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Indeed. That’s why multigenerational households were so effective. More members in the house meant less overall work for each individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:07 PM
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Uncle Ted had good insights but he’s a dead end when it comes to practical solutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 06:57 PM
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That’s the catch. I cannot. But if my perceptions are correct then the world will soon need to start considering paths to get the birthrate to at least replacement level (2.1) or else things will get very bad for everyone in the coming decades. Women being given more support will definitely need to be part of the equation, but the choice to conceive should never be taken away. If this issue is to be tackled at all it must be tackled in an ethical manner. My ultimate fear is that the world ignore…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 06:55 PM
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I don’t think either group can answer that with any validity because of the simple fact that our own side’s experience is all we have to go off of.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:52 PM
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It is true that there was no birth control, but that was just a reality that human society was arranged around to accept and deal with. In the past, your family wasn’t something you actively planned, merely something you prepared for. As for women choosing their partners. I’d argue that depended upon one’s location and social class. Up class women definitely had less mate choice because they were often used to broker alliances or make peace with hostile clans. That being said even in lower class…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:05 PM
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Human gestation length is actually shorter than would be ideal. Our heads evolved to be so big in proportion to female anatomy that humans have to be birthed a bit early and be completely helpless for a significant period of time while they finish developing outside the womb whereas most animal newborns are up and walking around within minutes of being born.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:52 PM
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I’d say it might be because humans were far more openly polygamous for most of our evolutionary past. Men reach climax more quickly because it’s advantageous to not have long sessions where you’re distracted from possible predation while women could afford longer sessions as they benefited from the protection of many partners. I’ve even read proposals in some papers that the male penis is shaped the way it is because it’s a more ideal shape for pushing the semen of rival mates out of the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:47 PM
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I’d say marriage as a legal contract in the state of the modern economy and legal system doesn’t make much sense and has been reduced to basically a social fashion accessory that doubles as a financial sword of Damocles over one’s head. Both men and women have played a role in the demise of marriage as a crucial civilization building institution. It’s a tough question on how to fix it. It would require major sacrifices from both parties that I doubt either would be willing to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 07:48 AM
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Again though, this isn’t about total numbers, it’s about the shape of the age pyramid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 07:42 AM
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Show me a tribe where all the men are feminine and I’ll show you a village that is soon to be eliminated or subjugated by the tribe of masculine men next door.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 04:32 AM
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This isn’t about total population size, it’s about the shape of the age pyramid. I’d say humanity ever reaching 10 billion is a very generous projection. As more countries industrialize their birthrates will drop faster and faster.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 04:28 AM
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This very link though points out that the global birthrate will be 2.1 by 2050. Once it dips below that the population will start to drop. We will continue to increase but at a slower and slower rate until then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:33 AM
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I’d argue though that this decline isn’t natural but a result of our own actions/inactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:30 AM
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Personally that sounds dangerously close to Brave New World territory. If that is inevitable then I’m glad I’ll be long gone by then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:28 AM
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That is definitely part of the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:27 AM
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Not exactly. It’s estimated there’s been just under 110 billion humans in total.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:26 AM
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I get laid on occasion, but no this isn’t about wanting to get laid more. It’s genuinely an emerging concern I have that I’m worried the world won’t take seriously until it’s too late since demographics can’t change on a dime.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:23 AM
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The issue with that is people aren’t united by what makes them different. They’re united by what they have in common. I believe multiculturalism inevitably creates a situation where all the groups begin to strain the system as they all pursue their own (often conflicting) goals and interests. The melting pot concept was originally not about multiculturalism, but instead the idea that blood/race need not be a requirement for membership in the American nation (nation in this instance meaning a pop…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:19 AM
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Even when one of the primary reasons for things being fucked up is a low birthrate?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:14 AM
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This is true. This issue can’t be placed only at women’s feet. It’s a complex issue that will require a complex response from everyone. What I wish to see is a genuine desire for people to have more kids. And I want this to happen in an effective and ethical way. My worst nightmare is that countries start forced breeding policies or start culling their elderly as they get desperate to save themselves as functioning entities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 08:05 PM
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That would actually be the worst thing because it’s young men who are the ones who do the dying in war. Which would just make this coming demographic collapse happen faster.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 07:57 PM
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Families were large in the past because historically kids were a source of security. The more kids you had the less labor each individual needed to contribute to the family and the more people you had to care for you when you grew old.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 07:52 PM
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Tragic. And indeed, this can’t simply be placed at the feet of women. This is being caused by a complex web of interrelated factors that will require an equally complex response.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 07:36 PM
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People who seek security are often attracted to wealth because wealth implies a person’s ability to provide said security.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 05:11 PM
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