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Can you finish when you masturbate?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 12:55 AM
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I’m drunk in the back of the car and I cried like a baby coming home from the bar
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 01:10 AM
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You get me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 03:17 AM
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Nah I am a woman and when a man you are attracted to opens up to you, it really does ignite a sense of nurturing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 11:59 PM
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I mean she feels emotionally closer to you, of course it’ll be more passionate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 07:39 PM
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You’re tapping into women’s nurturing nature
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 07:29 PM
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I don’t care how you personally frame it, you responded to me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 02:15 AM
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Sure but I’m just telling you it’s wrong to frame it as media in general when there’s an enormous portion of media that does exactly what they say “media” doesn’t do. What they should be saying is “the media I consumed doesn’t do this,” which they don’t say because it is far less sympathetic than “THE MEDIA!!!!” Also I am not sure if it applies to this thread specifically but very often men will direct these complaints towards women as if it’s a female conspiracy to make themselves look good in …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 12:54 AM
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Sorry what? All I’m saying is that it’s wrong to suggest the media isn’t out there. It is! It’s just not the media they consume. What do you mean deliberately? As in men want men to have delusional ideas of female nature? I don’t think it’s intentional I just think men make media as a fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 12:27 AM
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I feel like everything in my life throughout the past few years has prepared me for this very task. It will be our masterpiece
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 11:04 PM
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Where did I imply any sort of obligation to do anything My point is that it exists. When men here complain about the media portraying women as angels, they’re ignoring a huge portion of media.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 10:13 PM
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Right what’s funny is that men here act as if it doesn’t exist, when they’re really just unwilling to consume it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 08:07 PM
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It is pretty funny that some of the most obvious TRP-isms in media come from female-centric media that men dismiss as brainless and vapid. Then complain about the “Women are Wonderful” media bias. Which honestly seems to come more from men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:50 PM
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Okey dokey
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 02:41 PM
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Agree that attractive guys are given more leeway but hard disagree that “unattractive = creep.” Of course some women use the term broadly, like any other inherently subjective adjective (bitch, crazy, jerk etc), but most of the time it has to do with his behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 01:07 AM
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Can’t say I’ve ever heard that. Maybe if he’s staring at her all night
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 11:23 PM
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So...what? Every non-physically-deformed young woman has to deal with creeps IRL, feminist or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 08:46 PM
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If I have to google it to know what it is I have trouble believing it is forced upon you Edit to add: women complain about men being creepy TO THEM. Men complain about sluts simply existing at all. Some even complain about sluts NOT wanting them! The opposite of why women complain about creeps...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 07:10 PM
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In what sense? I have trouble believing that many women are approaching you (edit: or any guy) for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 06:45 PM
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The thing is, creeps disgust women to the extent that they force themselves upon them. Sluts don’t really force themselves upon men, in fact most are only sluts as a direct result of male attention to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 06:42 PM
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Cedric Diggory. If he hadn’t died...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 06:29 PM
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Those categories of women exist, but they are not the primary demographic for advertisers here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 04:25 AM
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She clearly says that she doesn’t think childless people find babies cute. Lol alrighty then
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 03:34 AM
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u/poppy_blu can correct me if I’m wrong but I’m 99% sure she meant exactly what I explained above and you are just being overly pedantic and interpreting her comment in the least forgiving way possible, instead of reading between the lines. You don’t really think she’s arguing that childless people don’t find babies cute, do you? Come on...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 03:23 AM
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The question is not whether childless people find babies cute; of course they do. The question is why in the world OP thinks they’d be the target demographic for advertisers creating baby-related media, instead of people with babies....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 03:04 AM
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Lol. I do want kids in the next few years, they don’t repulse me, but yeah, I am not nearly as drawn to baby-themed stuff as women I know who already have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 02:34 AM
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Yeah I don’t know why OP would think women without kids would be the target demographic of: Baby scented candles, wine bottles with babies on them, baby outfits for kittens etc. Childless women want nothing to do with that stuff (edit: beyond the standard “aww” reaction most women seem to share regarding babies)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 01:42 AM
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This isn’t new, it’s a pretty established pattern in advertising. Advertising execs creating this content are likely between the ages of 30-40 themselves and will naturally be nostalgic for stuff that resonated with them in their childhood. They’re also aware that their peers share the same nostalgia, so it works both ways. I am not sure it has anything to do with childless women in particular - in fact I find women with children to be much more drawn to baby-related stuff than childless women. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 01:31 AM
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Idk there are some real squares out there
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 07:07 AM
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True but I kind of feel like when it comes to cheating it could work in the opposite direction in the sense that an average-ish woman who FiNaLLy feels that spark with someone can be too swept up in it to resist. Whereas a hot woman will be used to having those options. I don’t know. I think it ultimately comes down to character.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 05:35 AM
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I could see this being true for men. For women, ehh, even an average woman has too many options for this to hold any weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 01:32 AM
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Ok yeah, by this definition I would not work well with a “wholesome” guy. I’m not a wholesome person myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 10:13 PM
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Still pretty vague. They treated people kindly if that’s what you mean. They were educated, had decent career prospects, good friends and family. I never witnessed any serious lapses in morality on their part. But like...they experimented with drugs, they partied, they had casual sex, etc. I don’t know if I would call that “wholesome.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 10:10 PM
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I wouldn’t describe either of my serious exes as pieces of shit, they were both great guys. There was no abuse or infidelity or any of the typical “piece of shit” indicators you commonly hear about. But I wouldn’t describe them as “wholesome” either. Decent - yes. They possessed basic human empathy and decency, they treated me kindly, yada yada. But they weren’t exactly altar boys, so I’m not sure what you mean by “wholesome” here. Can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 10:06 PM
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If they’re having a child with a man who makes more money than them, which is the case for most women, yes it absolutely is
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 02:11 AM
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Yes. They can still benefit from getting more provision for their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 01:08 AM
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The mother will usually be the primary caretaker of her children, so making their lives easier makes her life easier too. The money has to come from somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 12:37 AM
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Yeah if you have to ask, you already know the answer
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 08:14 PM
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Yeah, I have had my heart broken by a serious boyfriend, but a fling or casual sex partner? I have trouble believing that can actually result in a broken heart. A bruised ego, sure, but this idea that young women are getting their hearts broken by men who don’t give them the time of day besides a quick fuck is just fan fiction to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 01:02 AM
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As quickly as she can find someone better
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 05:36 PM
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I’d probably cheat and then branch swing upon finding someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 05:24 PM
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You’re 100% right. Unless you paid for every interaction or gave them thousands of dollars, if they kept talking to you it’s pretty safe to say they enjoyed talking to you. I don’t know why it’s so hard for people to believe cam girls are human beings who can make actual connections with other human beings, just because money was exchanged at some point in the beginning. At the very least they are certainly lonely, considering they are camming in the first place. If I was a cam girl I’d think wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 03:51 AM
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Advocating misleading
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 04:22 PM
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It wasn’t just that one link, I had dozens upon dozens to choose from
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 03:58 PM
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Okey dokey
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 03:19 AM
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No, women do not prefer the men they are fucking to be fucking other women, and they definitely don’t prefer to be lied to about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 03:16 AM
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Don’t disagree there. But your original post is about why women don’t like it, and it’s because they’d prefer to not have to figure it out the hard way...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 03:12 AM
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Men have to learn to interpret women’s subtle communication tactics, that doesn’t mean they LIKE it. Same goes for the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 03:07 AM
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What? I will always advise women to be straightforward with men. Please don’t project your assumptions onto me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 03:05 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/aurzku/how_to_delay_a_plate_breaking/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf I found this in under a minute by simply searching “plates” in the TRP subreddit. There are many many more examples. They literally tell men to mislead women. Which honestly I get - women mislead men too - but please don’t pretend like men who use the term “spin plates” are being honest and upfront about their intentions, and don’t play dumb when women say they d…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:55 AM
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Zero mention of honesty in that thread. “Spin plates” is generally interpreted to involve misleading the plates - TRP itself admits it. That’s what women respond negatively to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 02:50 AM
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Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 01:01 AM
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I agree, it’s like wow he must have something great to offer to make up for it. You and I are both pretty tall, I wonder if that has something to do with it. We know there are men who are insecure about it so maybe when we see one who (seemingly) isn’t, it reads as super confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 04:49 PM
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Yeah that actually makes way more sense than him dating a waitress.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 01:43 PM
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Just to slam the hammer on this silliness...Jennifer Aniston in real life has dated a revolving door of musicians, athletes and other actors, not a nerdy scientist in sight. This goes both ways. David Schwimmer (Ross) married a beautiful successful artist who is 20 years his junior. IRL he’d never go for a waitress (like Rachel), just like Jennifer Aniston would never go for Ross IRL. Even a PhD professor at a prestigious university, like Ross, is not likely to pair up with a waitress IRL. He is…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 04:41 PM
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This has always mystified me. Can I ask what specifically you are mystified by? Genuinely curious because it mystifies me that so many men are mystified by the female sexual response.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 01:44 AM
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Women don’t appreciate men, TRP confirmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 01:34 AM
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There’s lots of songs on these topics. I am so confused as to why you think male artists restrict themselves from talking about this stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 01:27 AM
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What do you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 10:02 PM
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Have you ever actually listened to any pop songs in the past couple decades? RP ideology is everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 09:42 PM
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is resulting in pure relationship Hell Can you elaborate as to what makes you think Taylor’s music is actually making things worse as opposed to just reflecting reality? Is it just like a hunch?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 08:47 PM
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Men have a bunch of things that they would relate with too, but that it's not considered Kosher to sing about, and we wouldn't be doing anybody any favors by emphasizing them and writing songs about them. What sort of things do you have in mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 08:41 PM
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If you actually took the time to dive into her music you’d see that she absolutely does not paint a picture of herself as an angel. She is one of the most honest and vulnerable female songwriters out there and if anything men around here should be THANKING her for publicly admitting some of the shit they say women never admit. Assuming they’re being honest when they say they wish women would admit it. Taylor didn’t inspire these feelings in women, the very reason she is so popular among women is…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 08:21 PM
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Sure but he is clearly not higher quality than younger men who can score higher quality plates; his age alone disqualifies him from a large percentage of women. I interpreted the OP as disputing the idea that male SMV increases with with age and I don’t see how the fact that mentally ill young women are willing to fuck older men disproves OP’s point. These same women are also willing to fuck younger men, probably even more so, but they can’t get them as easily as they can get older men. Male SMV…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 01:22 PM
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Right but if all they can attract is mentally ill fucked up women with self esteem and daddy issues, that isn’t peak SMV. That type of woman has low standards and won’t be particularly high value herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 04:41 AM
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Hard no to doing it with a pet on the bed. In the room, maybe, I’ve done it before but found it weird. Had trouble relaxing. I am viscerally turned off by the idea of doing it with a baby in the room. I do wonder if these questions are the type of thing you can’t really answer until you experience it. I haven’t had my own pet in years, I don’t have children and I’m also still in the honeymoon phase of my relationship so it isn’t inconceivable to me that after getting used to it I’ll just be like…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 11:42 PM
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I try to avoid chalking it up to insecurity, I think that explanation is used very lazily around here and lots of people disagree with it so I assumed that wasn’t the angle you were coming from. But sure of course it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 07:37 PM
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Are you saying they really are as insecure as a woman whining about not being “special”? I’ve always thought it was because they found it gross and/or indicative of emotional issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 07:30 PM
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I’m disagreeing with your choice of analogy. It doesn’t help me understand because it’s something I would never even think to worry about and I have never heard another woman express concern over. And women express concern about A LOT of stuff. Do you date women? All the women I’ve dated expressed a pretty great deal of concern that they weren’t special. Do you date men? None of the men I’ve dated have expressed concern over my N count. But I recognize that that probably says more about the type…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 07:21 PM
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So? It’s not like some major concern for most women, like men around here make N count out to be for men. Your analogy falls totally flat from a female perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 07:01 PM
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That’s the norm. Do you think women genuinely believe they are the first to be called baby or sweetie by their boyfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 06:56 PM
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I get advising you to not tell random women it’s hot - don’t do that. But your gf or wife? That mindset baffles me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 06:40 PM
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He does that with you AND does that for other women at the same time What’s tripping me up about this analogy is the “at the same time” aspect. A high N count is generally not understood to mean “fucking lots of other men at the same time,” just that she’s fucked a lot of guys in the past. So why would you compare it to a guy romancing other women at the same time?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 06:37 PM
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This has come up before and I am baffled by women’s reactions, I think pregnancy is the most beautiful feminine thing ever and I love that some men appreciate it as such. I also think it makes perfect sense as an arousal trigger, like it’s literally what sex is for!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 06:21 PM
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That is a more respectable attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 06:44 PM
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Lol yes lots of women are neurotic about it especially with a new guy. In college my friends and I would sometimes purposely not shave our body hair on nights we didn’t want to let ourselves even consider hooking up with someone
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 05:10 PM
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You literally just pointed out that it was the number that mattered: it's not one dude you're blowing 100 times, but a bunch of dudes your blowing just to pacify them Is 2 guys that much worse than 1 guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 07:19 PM
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She said it happened twice, it’s not “a bunch of dudes.” Jesus
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 07:04 PM
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Controlling their own fertility, sure. Controlling male sexuality, ehhh. It’s more responding to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 06:03 PM
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What don’t you understand about “people-pleasing nature”? That’s what it is. It’s preferable for them to give him something than to disappoint, annoy or anger him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 05:31 PM
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People-pleasing nature + less effort, less risk and less intimacy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 05:27 PM
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She didn’t say she was never open to having sex with him, she just for whatever reason didn’t want to at that point in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 05:21 PM
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It could literally be as simple as she didn’t shave her vag that night. Y’all are making this way more complicated than it needs to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 05:06 PM
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It is in some states, legally. Can be grounds for at-fault divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 11:42 PM
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It’s a very easy way to witness an adult throw a full on temper tantrum
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 10:34 PM
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There's a human being inside that hot body with actual feelings blushes thank you for assuming I have a hot body
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 08:34 PM
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Weird, the guy I taught how to ski ended up just wanting nudes too. AMALT
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 08:09 PM
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Do you know how to ski? I took a guy skiing for the first time once. Never again. Adults hate learning how to ski.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 07:38 PM
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It’s pretty important because (1) I get a lot of joy out of getting to know my bf’s friends and I like being able to get a group together to go skiing or something, and (2) if he doesn’t have friends I see it as a red flag and I don’t think he’d be the type of person I’d be interested in anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 06:55 PM
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Sure I just don’t think it’s 22 anywhere, I think it’s mid-to-late twenties. There’s a sweet spot between 22-26 where most people pair up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 09:54 PM
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What makes you say especially past 22? Girls seem to be far more issue-ridden in high school/college but most mature out of it in their early 20s, not the other way around. If you had said past 27 or so, I’d agree with you. After a certain age there’s usually a reason she’s still on the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 09:40 PM
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So you consider it but then dismiss it I guess? Why is that - does she appear to not enjoy sex with you? Has she mentioned how great it was in the past with other partners? I am trying to gauge if it’s something beyond just her N count alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 03:19 AM
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Exactly, this perception that young women are having mindblowing sex with their casual sex partners is pure unadulterated male fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 03:09 AM
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I read the OP and I agree with Atlas, this mindset is 100% insecurity. I have a decently high N and sex has only gotten better over time, I didn’t even have an orgasm with a man until I already had a double-digit N. Every serious relationship I’ve had has been the best sex of my life at the time. This is very very common. I actually understand men being viscerally disgusted by a promiscuous woman, I won’t argue with them over that, but the “how could I ever measure up?!” shit genuinely baffles m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:58 AM
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It is extremely telling that they don’t even seem to consider that the comparison could work in their favor
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:33 AM
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Weird. I totally get it if infidelity was involved, but yeah, in the context of a normal breakup that’s weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 12:14 AM
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Do people say this about breaking up with someone? I have only heard it used in the context of infidelity not simply leaving someone
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 11:14 PM
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I appreciate you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 05:47 PM
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PM me for nudes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 10:51 PM
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King and Queen of PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 10:33 PM
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You take that back, it isn’t stupid it is glorious
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 09:41 PM
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Ah, yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 11:10 PM
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I mean yeah it sucks for a woman when she actually has feelings for the guy and is led to believe it will turn into something. That’s not the context I was referring to though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 10:59 PM
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It’s not about the guy losing value. It’s a female ego thing. With a guy from out of town, she can tell herself he could theoretically want a relationship with her if only distance wasn’t an issue. Local guys don’t provide that sort of ego protection. A lot of women who have casual sex still want to be viewed as more than just a sex object, even if they would never consider a relationship with the guy. It’s kinda twisted but it’s true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 10:31 PM
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Yes but OP has mentioned multiple times that his particular interests go beyond typical BDSM. He can find a woman who is interested in more intense stuff but they are not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 05:35 AM
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“Bdsm community” is different from “interest in bdsm-related activities”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 03:42 AM
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Can you be more specific
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 03:21 AM
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Women in the bdsm community are far from normal
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 03:20 AM
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Why don’t you think there’s a derogatory term for “men who knowingly raise another man’s child”? To me the fact that there is a derogatory term for being deceived into it, but not for choosing to do it, says a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 03:38 AM
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Many don’t want to, many are clearly ok with it even if it’s not ideal. But almost none are ok with it when fraud is involved. Equating it to adoption completely ignores the reason getting cuckolded is such a source of anxiety for men in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 02:28 AM
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But the fraud is what men get so upset about, which is what you asked. They don’t get upset about agreeing to it - if they don’t want to raise another man’s child, they can just...not raise another man’s child. It’s a non-issue without the fraud aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 02:12 AM
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Why are men upset by paternity fraud? Because it’s fraud. Fraud is deception. There’s a reason there’s no derogatory term for men who knowingly agree to raise another man’s child, but there is a derogatory term for men who are deceived into it. Why would men be upset by something they agreed to?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 02:04 AM
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If even the most beautiful person robs a bank, I don't think they will be referred by a reporter as beautiful. https://www.thedailybeast.com/saudi-beauty-says-she-robbed-banks-for-her-mafia-lover
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 05:57 PM
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I don’t know who you are talking about but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 12:47 PM
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What makes you think the women who claim to be able to spot it are the ones being abused? Seems pretty obvious that these are two different groups of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 11:06 PM
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Men are more concerned than women are with respect to the differences in muscularity among men. Which makes sense - as a man, you have a better shot at fighting off a weaker man. But from a female perspective it doesn’t matter so much - a weak man can still overpower me. I don’t see him as automatically less threatening than a stronger man. I have also found that “dangerous looking” men often have gentler dispositions than weaker men, perhaps because they realize their appearance is inherently i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 06:51 PM
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Or how drunk she is
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 05:06 PM
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I answered him. I choose the good looking one...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 06:57 PM
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Assuming I am not living in the Hunger Games, yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 06:01 PM
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I literally couldn’t care less about sports
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 05:55 PM
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I’m thinking about my male coworkers now and I can definitely identify which ones are unattractive but it’s just never crossed my mind to think about them in those terms. I only make conscious judgments about his attractiveness if I’m super attracted to him and/or can tell he’s attracted to me. Both of which require some extent of interaction and rapport.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 06:48 PM
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My thoughts exactly, it is very rare for me to look at a male stranger and think “he’s ugly.” The majority of men don’t even register in that sense (positively or negatively) unless they do or say something to make me consider their attractiveness. I’ll notice on my own if he’s super hot or super ugly but most guys fall in between and are kind of just...there. Just like most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 05:29 PM
2

Tbh I’d probably fast forward my age by a couple years in exchange for this wand
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 03:38 PM
5

Probably 26. That’s when I think I looked my best and I wouldn’t want to deal with the downsides of looking like I’m in my early 20s. I wouldn’t do anything to my bf. Ideally though I’d prefer a wand that allowed me to change/improve specific aspects of my appearance instead of bringing me back in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 02:26 PM
1

I wasn’t trying to emasculate you, sorry if that’s how it came off. I was saying you’re proving OP’s point. Like yourself, most men don’t seem to give a fuck about attention from or friendship with gay men, unless it crosses a line. Same for most women with respect to straight men. But just like some women have “strong negative reactions when they are flirted with by men they find gross” (your words), some men have strong negative reactions to any interactions with gay men. The analogy is apt an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 02:37 AM
1

I don’t know what to tell you - how you described attention from gay men is literally how women describe attention from straight men. It doesn’t sound “un-manly,” it’s just the manly equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 02:10 AM
1

Remove the word “gay” from your comment and it is exactly how women describe the difference between a guy being friendly/flirting with her vs being a creep or harassing her: Being the recipient of sexual attention is not the same thing as being sexually harassed. I don't mind if a guy thinks I'm attractive an flirts with me - I'll take the compliment. It's a problem when it crosses into harassment territory. You are proving OP’s point. It’s not friendly or even flirtatious men who make women so …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 01:55 AM
1

You sound exactly like a chick
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 01:12 AM
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It’s hard to know how common it is. I agree men around here tend to exaggerate this type of stuff but I also think it’s a bigger risk for men because women tend to have more options and get more attention. The average woman is more frequently reminded of her options than the average man. On the flip side I think it ends up being a self-fulfilling prophecy for a lot of men. If he feels inadequate and is so paranoid about being settled for, she will pick up on it and it’s not gonna help.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 05:53 PM
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I think there are two different concepts people can be referring to when they talk about settling: (1) being with someone who isn’t your ideal, or (2) being with someone you think you can realistically do better than. Your OP seems to be focused on the former and I agree it’s a futile thing to fret over. The latter is a more legitimate concern, I get why people are threatened by it or worried about doing it themselves. Though it’s largely a matter of self-perception and not necessarily reflectiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 03:38 PM
2

Presumably we need a way to address STIs more than BC at present Condoms....
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 12:20 PM
5

Want a medal?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 02:07 AM
9

I agree in my experience, most at least offer to use a condom but not before attempting to convince you otherwise or giving a little pout when you say “I’m on BC but please still wear a condom”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 01:35 AM
5

Do you think the innovations in female birth control options over the past couple decades have made men BETTER about wearing condoms?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 12:11 AM
23

Nope, guys looking for serious relationships do this too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 11:22 PM
1

Red flags are not necessarily dealbreakers, they are warning signs. I’ve never heard anyone use the term “yellow flag” with respect to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 02:53 PM
2

Yeah, if OP is just asking “do you want him to not pursue other women he finds attractive” then...duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 06:10 PM
1

Hmm I have never thought about this. It sounds nice but it seems so unrealistic, I’m not sure I could even buy into the fantasy of it. If a man told me this I’d almost find it patronizing. Tbh I didn’t even realize this was a common male fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 06:07 PM
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The French law applies to women too - she’d need to get a court order in order to test the child’s paternity, just like he would. I’d be surprised if a judge approved a woman’s request just because she wanted to reassure her husband. One of them would have to contest it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 05:17 PM
15

Perhaps, but I’m not about to take the lead on that experiment. Thankfully for men it’s possible to do it yourself. She doesn’t even have to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 11:45 PM
13

I’m not a particularly jealous type either - which makes it even weirder that he would make such an offer. If I had expressed jealousy or paranoia about this stuff, it would make more sense. Similarly, if a woman knows her husband is anxious about paternity, it would make more sense for her to suggest a paternity test. If not, it’s a suspiciously random offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 10:33 PM
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I think some men would be weirded out by this offer, particularly those who weren’t anxious about paternity in the first place. It reminds me of the quote “the lady doth protest too much.” Even if he accepts the offer and confirms that the child is his, he would likely still wonder why she felt the need to reassure him of her fidelity without any suspicion on his part. This isn’t a great analogy but I’m picturing how I’d react if my bf proactively announced he was giving me access to his phone/a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 10:21 PM
4

Aw man I missed it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/19 07:23 PM
15

From her perspective, the easiest thing to do is provide an excuse because (1) it avoids hostility, awkwardness and/or persistence, and (2) she doesn’t care “what kind of a woman” he thinks she is. He could catch her blowing a guy in the bathroom later, for all she cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/19 05:48 PM
3

In fact “doing something about it” actively hurts his business
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 12:21 AM
12

I didn’t really understand it until my mid-late twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 02:37 AM
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I don’t think she’s accusing men of lying or not being clear. She’s accusing women of not understanding/accepting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 01:36 AM
3

Right? RIGHT???
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 01:32 AM
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Just based on anecdotal observations, I get the impression most women don’t understand how fragile the male ego is and how easy it is to make a man feel emasculated. Either that or they just don’t care, I haven’t quite figured it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 11:17 PM
1

Aw man. I missed out on that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 07:28 PM
1

Yeah or maybe we grew up in the same region. Northeastern US here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 06:55 PM
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I don’t think it’s weird that you never saw women giving birth, in fact I think it’s a little weird that we DID see it. But yeah, I think it’s a little odd that you didn’t see anything about genitals at all. How old are you and where did you grow up?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 06:50 PM
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In 5th grade we went over basic puberty stuff, how our bodies were changing. They split up the class by sex and we mostly talked about menstruation, not sure what the boys got. Then in 7th grade we had “sex ed” as part of our biology curriculum, so it was a few days worth of class. This was more focused on sex and reproduction as opposed to puberty. It was co-ed. I don’t remember many specifics but I do remember the following: - we had to write anonymous questions and put them in a jar for my te…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 06:44 PM
1

Haha most men DO want that. Which is what’s funny in light of the virginity worship around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 06:25 PM
1

If she didn’t mean to describe herself like that then sure I guess there’s no disconnect. I don’t buy it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 06:11 PM
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It indicates that she’s not actually fulfilling that role for her partner. How could she, when she’s so infatuated with another man? Women don’t work like that. Also you’re being a little dramatic; no one is saying low N = asexual. LESS sexual, sure. But most regular ppd females are low N themselves and still seem to enjoy sex just fine. This person was not singled out simply because she’s low N. Edit to add: what women roll their eyes at is men who worship female virginity while also expecting …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 06:07 PM
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You wouldn’t be bothered if that was your partner? Almost every post is swooning over another man, literally the only post about her partner talks about lack of passion in their relationship. If cheating is an issue for you, you’d be an idiot to not see this as a huge red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 05:29 PM
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True but limerence is way more than a crush, it’s an obsession. I mean just read her post history, she’s infatuated to the point of distress. She mentioned 3 years of it with one guy. If that meets the criteria of “wholesome girl who only wants to be a sex kitten for one man” in your mind then so be it but to me it seems intellectually dishonest at best. I do not believe it’s possible to fulfill your partner’s needs while being so infatuated with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 05:05 PM
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She’s pointing out the disconnect between describing oneself as a “wholesome girl who only wants to be a sex kitten for one man,” and posting incessantly about crushing on other men. She has a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 04:44 PM
4

I appreciate you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 03:11 AM
1

Why do you wish you were someone you feel sorry for?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 04:25 PM
1

The painted-on eyebrows haven’t been a trend since the 90s. Can you name one current public figure with painted-on eyebrows?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 09:56 PM
1

The current "in" look for female fashion is heavy and obvious makeup with artificial eyebrows and colored layers. As a woman I have to ask, what are “artificial eyebrows”?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 09:33 PM
1

The media didn’t identify him. I am sure it was a topic of gossip among his local community, but I am also sure he had a lot of people on his side. Still an unfortunate situation but not exactly “completely damaging.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 12:03 AM
5

Just sit your drunk ass on that fuckin runway ho
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 01:15 PM
5

Put anthrax on a tampax and slap you til you can’t stand
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 02:35 AM
1

Huh I totally disagree, I think in the absence of the obvious extenuating factors (illness, abuse, neglect etc) you absolutely deserve sex from your spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 04:52 PM
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Look up the definition of deserve: to merit, be qualified for, to have a claim to If I have all the right experience, certifications, skills etc then yes of course I deserve the job. I’m qualified. I might not be the most deserving but I’m deserving. But please answer my question above, I’m genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 04:17 PM
1

You really don’t think a wife deserves sex from her husband if she meets all of his requirements?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 03:08 PM
1

If she expects a catcall, then she must believe she meets the requirements necessary to get catcalled. If she expects sex from her husband, she believes she meets the requirements necessary for him to have sex with her. That’s what I mean by “deserve.” How can you expect someone to give you something without believing you meet the requirements necessary to receive it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 02:55 PM
1

I don’t even know what your point is anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 04:09 AM
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They are deserving in the sense that they met the criteria to be raped. Duh. Otherwise they wouldn’t have been raped! It’s like how someone who gets accepted to Harvard is deserving in the sense that they met the criteria to be accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 03:08 AM
2

IDGAF about “victim blaming,” I cringe at the very mention of the term
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 02:46 AM
2

As a tax paying citizen, you DO deserve the bus to come in the morning! Wtf?!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 02:43 AM
2

Yes. If someone is giving you something that they only give people who meet certain qualifications, how could you NOT deserve it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 02:40 AM
2

If you expect someone to have sex with you of course you think you deserve it. If you didn’t think you deserved something, how on earth can you expect someone to give it to you? I don’t understand that line of thinking. I can’t imagine being like “I don’t deserve to have sex with him, but I expect him to have sex with me anyway.”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 02:32 AM
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Why would you expect someone to give you something, without feeling like you deserve it? If I expect my boss to give me a raise that means I think I deserve it. If I don’t think I deserve it I wouldn’t be angry at him for not giving it to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 12:47 AM
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Why would you be angry at a school for rejecting you if you don’t believe you deserve to be accepted? Or be angry at a company for rejecting you if you don’t believe you are qualified?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 12:16 AM
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Do people who don’t think they deserve to get into Harvard really get angry at Harvard for not accepting them? If so, sure, that’s not entitlement it’s just stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 12:08 AM
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Oh, ignore my comment immediately above, I misread. Like I said originally: the desire itself isn’t entitlement. The lashing out at those who don’t give it to you is where the accusations of entitlement come from. What’s the confusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 12:00 AM
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Huh? It is definitely entitled...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 11:57 PM
2

If someone expects you to only have sex with them, then it’s pretty reasonable to expect them to have sex with you...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 11:52 PM
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In what ways can men be rationally entitled to women’s bodies? I think husbands/wives, or really anyone in a monogamous relationship, is rationally entitled to physical intimacy with their partner (there are caveats to this but I am speaking generally). Like I wouldn’t call a man “irrationally entitled” for complaining that his wife won’t fuck him despite his efforts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 11:45 PM
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I just used incels as an example. I’d say your example is definitely entitlement. The real question is, is it irrational entitlement? That will depend on the specific context. Edit to add: for example if she denied him sex all year or treated him like shit and then expects to be seduced on Valentine’s Day, I’d say that’s irrational entitlement. But if she’s a good loving wife I think it’s fair to feel entitled to romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 11:26 PM
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There’s a difference between desiring something above what you’re worth and expressing anger towards those who don’t give it to you. I think that’s the issue with incels - it’s not just the desire for sex, it’s the anger and bitterness they express towards women for not giving it to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 11:10 PM
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The latter but only if I can choose/approve the other wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 04:50 PM
1

Very true
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 02:49 PM
1

True
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 02:36 PM
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Intelligent men tend to prefer intelligent women. Not saying it’s necessarily sexually attractive but it definitely matters for a relationship which is what women care about anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 01:33 PM
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I’m not suggesting they wait until they are 50
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 06:07 AM
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They either have them or they’re actively trying to...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 04:06 AM
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Eh, I wouldn’t recommend lowering their standards just yet. It’s not like they’ve been single for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 04:05 AM
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False. I have friends who have wanted kids for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 04:02 AM
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I meant they don’t even want kids in the near future
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 03:50 AM
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You’re preachin to the choir Edit: to be fair though, none of these women are ready to settle down and have kids anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 03:29 AM
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Or just New York City
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 03:22 AM
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I’m in my late twenties and my still-single female friends are actually some of the most attractive, intelligent women I know. I’d post pics if this wasn’t a public forum. But yeah, they exist. There‘s definitely more leftover high value women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 03:09 AM
1

But in this hypothetical she’s not demanding a relationship in order to give you sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 02:00 AM
1

But where does the “overpriced” part come from if she gives it to you for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 12:50 AM
5

It’s just “actions speak louder than words.” Very basic stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 11:04 PM
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While we are sharing anecdotes, my father was a saint who gave me a very wholesome view of men. It wasn’t until I started getting overt sexual attention that I started to understand the “dark side” of male nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 11:10 PM
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It just happens earlier for women. I’m confused as to how that rhetoric could “bleed into” the messages a 12 year old girl hears. The cultural messages about love and romance she is exposed to mostly consist of fairytales and romantic comedies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 06:27 PM
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At a bar? No. On a dark street/in a more private environment? It’s a legitimate concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 06:04 PM
3

What makes you think young girls are exposed to that type of rhetoric?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:46 PM
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It’s kinda hard to avoid annoying him while also rejecting his sexual advances
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:34 PM
1

BEAST
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 02:09 PM
3

You’re over-thinking it, almost to a neurotic extent. THAT is unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 03:06 AM
3

Keep in mind female INTJs are the rarest personality type
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 03:02 AM
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Yeah, I am pretty moderate myself so anyone at either extreme is difficult for me to vibe with. Really the only deal-breaking modern feminist issue for me is abortion. I’m not sure I could be with a man who is entirely opposed to legal abortion (unless it’s the type of thing where he just opposes it late-term or something). I could be with a man who is opposed to it morally/personally, but not legally. It’s a very hard perspective for me to understand and I think it reflects deeper personality i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 02:53 AM
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I couldn’t care less as long as he isn’t expressively ANTI-feminist. Those are the most insufferable to me. But there are feminist-identifying men I find attractive and men who DGAF I find attractive. Ultimately I prefer him to have a balanced view, not extreme in either direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 02:15 AM
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No shit
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 06:24 PM
1

I’m sorry I’m too drunk to read all that I will respond in the AM
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 04:20 AM
1

The thing is, guys get off so much easier. I don’t think it’s an equal comparison. The most popular female sex toys aren’t even shaped like a penis anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 03:58 AM
1

I hear this claim made constantly but have never actually heard a woman complain about it. Which is weird, because women talk about stuff like this. It makes me wonder, perhaps it’s stigmatized because it’s rare? Whereas dildos are so common.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 03:08 AM
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It’s just as dubious to assume it means “unattractive” as it is to say it happens all the time. Neither is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:16 PM
5

What situation were you describing above? I assumed you meant when a woman goes on a date with a man and feels unsafe around him (either during the date or afterwards).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:08 PM
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Ok, a man she went on a date with is following her around. Would you be afraid for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:51 PM
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It’s not in bad faith, I am genuinely curious as to how you reconcile the opinion you described above with having a daughter. She will experience a scary sexualized encounter with a man at some point, if she hasn’t already. It would be very concerning for you to assume “I’m afraid of him” means “I’m not sexually attracted to him.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:14 PM
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Genuine question: if your daughter mentioned being afraid of a man who has been following her around recently and making inappropriate comments, would you consider her fear to be justified or would you really think all there is to it is that he’s unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 04:37 PM
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Lol indeed. It’s like arguing with an edgy teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:42 PM
1

Is it sexist or not Mr Smoogs
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:06 AM
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I asked you a yes or no question
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:59 AM
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Answer the question...?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 03:30 AM
1

Would you call it sexist for a small, skinny lesbian to expect her more muscular, butch partner to protect her?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 02:24 AM
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I expect people who are stronger than me to protect me (assuming they care about me — I do not expect strangers to protect me). My sister does BJJ and you better believe I would expect her to protect me if someone tried to fight us. And I would try to protect someone who is obviously weaker than me, male or female. Where is the sexism?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 01:06 AM
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I’m not sure how this is related to my comment. I didn’t say he should fight the guy, I said the act of simply making it known that he is with me is enough to remedy the situation. Same goes for when I step in for him. Or are you talking about another situation entirely? Please give me an example before you ask if I desire something. I don’t read feminist shit I am not even sure what benevolent sexism means besides, like, men opening doors for women (which I’m fine with).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 12:26 AM
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I mean I would step in if a woman was getting touchy with my SO; women have the same tendency to back down after realizing their target is spoken for. Is that also benevolent sexism? If so sign me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 12:14 AM
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Men often don’t take explicit rejection well, it’s better to just remove yourself from the situation. However, most men back down the second they realize you’re with a man. The difference is night and day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 12:03 AM
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Can it be an LTR in the beginning? Isn’t it just an..R?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 11:12 PM
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I would be livid if my SO punched a guy just for grabbing my ass. It would make me worry about his temper and his ability to handle himself in stressful situations. I would expect him to verbally reprimand the guy but not get up in his face or anything, just say “dude what the fuck?” put his arm around me and leave as quickly as possible. Any further engagement is unnecessary and just makes the whole situation worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:24 PM
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Probably. I was hoping it wasn’t that painfully simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 11:11 PM
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Ok see I’d be more concerned by the fact that he has a “chubby, Starbucks-looking” ex wife than the fact that said wife has a nose ring
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 09:38 PM
1

That all makes sense, but what I was trying to ask was: why did you realize it so early on, when other guys didn’t? Do you have any theories?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 12:59 AM
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While simultaneously arguing it’s a meaningless term. The cognitive dissonance must be tough.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 11:02 PM
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Again, those are not the men she was talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:33 PM
1

since grade school I’ve been a VERY close observer of what gets results (ie sex and attraction) from women, versus what women want consciously in the public sphere from men they aren’t having sex with This is an important distinction that men here often seem very confused about. What do you think made your experience different?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:26 PM
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Come on, a lot of guys are OK with waiting for 6-10 dates (maybe even a bit more) until getting in bed. She’s not talking about those guys. She’s talking specifically about the guys who say they’d pass on a woman for not putting out within the first couple dates, yet also say they’d pass on a woman with a double-digit N count.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:23 PM
2

If I was an outlier I wouldn’t be having this argument
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:49 PM
1

It's also how WOMEN interpret his comedy. This is how ALL women view men who look like Louis CK. No matter what he did or didn't do, you'd think he's creepy. His very existence is creepy to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:42 PM
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Anyone who saw Louis CK’s show and thought “this guy can’t get laid” is an idiot. He clearly gets laid. But please keep telling me how I interpret his comedy. You are more entertaining than some professional comedians I’ve seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:07 PM
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That is a fascinating example of how men interpret his comedy. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 08:59 PM
1

Yet he still wasn’t considered creepy until he offered to masturbate in front of women he wasn’t involved with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 08:42 PM
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Have you ever even seen his standup or his show? He talks a lot about getting laid. He had multiple sexual encounters with women featured on his show. I have no idea what you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 08:34 PM
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No, he was hugely successful before that particular incident became public. I never heard him called a creep before that. My female friends all loved his show. I would need some sort of proof to believe that he was previously considered creepy by a non-negligible portion of women in order to believe what you’re saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 08:08 PM
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No, it is what he did. Asking women you’re not involved with if you can masturbate in front of them is creepy no matter how hot you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 08:01 PM
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I just think it’s weird to use him of all people as an example, in a thread about men not being able to escape being creep-shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 07:50 PM
12

Out of curiosity, would you disagree that asking women you’re not romantically involved with if you can masturbate in front of them is creepy?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 07:16 PM
11

This is my thinking too. “Creepy” is just like any other vaguely defined, highly subjective insult: bitchy, rude, crazy, awkward, etc. Unless you’re being called any of these things on a regular basis, why care?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:51 PM
1

There are objective standards of attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 02:26 AM
2

So he thinks he’s happier, but you know better...?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 12:20 AM
1

Nope, both partners report greater satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 11:58 PM
0

That actually isn’t true, statistically. Marriages in which the woman is more attractive than the man tend to be happier than the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 11:22 PM
25

Right after you furnish the huuuuge empty space in Smoogs’ ass
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 07:53 PM
1

Fair, I do have an awful username. TW literally stands for “throwaway” lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 02:26 AM
2

Ooooh nooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 02:05 AM
1

Getting catcalled? Depends on their local laws
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 11:08 PM
5

Yes, so many women call the police over a catcall. Totally right.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:08 PM
2

Hahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 08:35 PM
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Dude, read the whole story. He didn’t simply ask her on a date: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/lifestyle/university-missouri-student-suspended-sexually-harassing-stalking-woman-sued-school-racial-discrimination-002315908.html In the spring, the two met again — Rowles enrolled in dance classes taught by Breaux at the Student Recreation Center, and he asked her out on a date. His advance made Breaux feel “extremely uncomfortable,” so she declined; however, the next week, Rowles…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 03:42 AM
1

I’ve never seen a good looking older man who wasn’t also good looking in his youth
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 03:30 AM
2

Glad you finally understand. But please feel free to share statistics on 28 year old female virgins. Of course you only focus on the slut and completely disregard the reality of the other option.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 12:20 AM
3

How old we talking? I know a couple men in their 50s I wouldn’t say no to but I don’t like lust over them. They’re also rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 04:31 PM
2

You are not going to convince me against my own experience and observations.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 02:59 AM
5

You need to understand that “appeal to men” isn’t the only thing women are considering here. I would gladly take decreased options over remaining a virgin until I’m 28. When I think about the slutty women I know versus the longterm virgins I know, the former is more appealing than the latter. Some are doing fine for themselves, whereas longterm female virgins are all socially underdeveloped and ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 12:46 AM
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Yeah I think it mostly comes from those who married/paired up young. Dating is different as an adult, not necessarily better or worse but definitely different. Then there’s the effect of apps/internet dating, which adds a whole other element. I was off the dating market for just a few years, up until this past year, and I was surprised to realize how out of touch I’d become.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 04:55 AM
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It’s more just acceptance of the natural progression of the industry. I’m not saying it’s overall good, but I do think it’s good for those who would otherwise have done it in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 02:03 AM
2

I mean, selling sex is something young women have done for ages. It’s just another platform for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 01:55 AM
2

Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 01:21 AM
2

Oh I’ve heard of it. Still a ridiculous question.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 01:13 AM
9

I think you’re misunderstanding my point. I am not speaking to the legitimacy of married people’s advice or success. That will vary per individual. There are married people who have relationships I’d love to have and those who have relationships I would rather stay single forever than endure. But, again, I don’t come here for advice. When people who have been married for years start talking about what modern dating IS ACTUALLY LIKE, of course they’re out of touch. How could they not be? For exam…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 12:42 AM
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Who in their right mind comes here for advice? I come here for analysis, insight, intellectual exercise, debating, procrastination. Not advice. Married people tend to be out of touch when it comes to modern dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 12:23 AM
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I didn’t even mean it’s shitty, it’s just different.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 10:47 PM
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For once I actually don’t disagree with you. I am single, and hearing married people opine on modern dating dynamics is almost just as bad as hearing incels opine on sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 09:46 PM
10

Dude that post was the least sensical, yet most presumptuous, question I’ve ever read
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 09:43 PM
13

I wouldn’t do it but I think it’s a safer and smarter alternative for women (and men) who would otherwise do it in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 03:34 AM
6

I am also well aware that for men on PPD the 28 year old virgin sounds like the more attractive marriage prospect. But getting to the point of being a 28 year old virgin is is noone's dream, male or female. I think this is why some men here are struggling to accept women’s responses: they can’t understand why a woman would choose the option that makes her less valuable in the eyes of men. They seem to think women here are describing which woman men should prefer to marry, instead of which woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 11:06 PM
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Either that or he gets off and then ejaculates inside before you hang upside down for a few minutes to allow the sperm to slide down into your uterus. Lol that is the least sexy thing I’ve ever heard. Thank you for the entertaining mental image though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 08:08 PM
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Hmm I wasn’t thinking “too small to have PIV sex” when I originally answered this question. I didn’t even know that was a thing! It would probably be a deal breaker, I’d struggle with it for sure. I mean how do we even have kids? Artificial insemination?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 07:48 PM
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I still enjoy it - it feels good physically and I enjoy the intimacy. I would be disappointed if it wasn’t part of our sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 07:25 PM
6

Can someone explain this question to me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 06:59 PM
3

You mean get off just from PIV? I’ve never been able to do that anyway, regardless of size.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 05:50 PM
12

Is this supposed to be a difficult question? Def over 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 04:19 PM
5

I’ve said yes when I wanted to say yes...? Getting to 100 would simply require me to say yes when I wasn’t sure and to seek out men more aggressively. Again, it’s not ideal, but it’s better than saying no until I’m (at least) 28. I am fully aware of the downsides of promiscuity, I’d just prefer them over being chronically alone and socially underdeveloped.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 04:46 AM
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It’s a lot easier for many women to picture 100 men than 0 men. All they have to do to get to 100 is say yes a lot more often. It‘s not ideal but it’s conceivable, and it comes with certain upsides that the other option lacks. To remain at 0, a woman would have to actively avoid men and pass on men she really likes. Miss out on opportunities not only for sex but for romance and love. Until she is 28 years old! That sounds miserable to women who crave romantic intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 04:37 AM
8

If you can’t handle a few scratches here and there you shouldn’t be owning a cat OR having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 11:37 PM
9

It’s not a deal breaker at all if I like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 10:12 PM
12

THANK YOU. Most guys ask this anyway, it’s weird to picture two people having sex for the first time without one of them mentioning grabbing a condom. My theory is guys like OP don’t think about details like that because they’ve never actually been in this situation. They think sex happens like it does in movies or porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 09:28 PM
8

The more apt analogy is you hearing about a small number of cats biting their owners and then saying owning a pet cat is a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 09:15 PM
3

I had the same thought
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:54 PM
1

So you agree with OP: there’s no use in encouraging her to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 01:19 AM
1

You missed the point. If she thinks she is settling for a guy, she’s not gonna be happy with him. Whether or not she is objectively settling is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 01:12 AM
2

If you say so
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 08:21 PM
3

Why wouldn’t you? Guy friends are great.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 08:12 PM
1

I mean when you have feelings for the person. Oh. You should specify this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 08:08 PM
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Yes men and women can just be friends, and I don’t think finding someone attractive means you can’t be friends with them. If you’re in love with them it’s gonna be difficult but if you simply find them attractive it’s not that big of a deal. Especially as an adult. Edit to add: by “attraction” I mean physical attraction. If you have romantic feelings for them too, it’s going to be more difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 08:05 PM
1

Yes, this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 04:43 PM
4

That is far from the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 02:24 PM
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You say this as if most men have the option of dating younger women. They do not. Of course more men would if they could.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 02:17 AM
1

Lol women don’t experience lust
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 01:52 AM
1

To a degree, but women tend to be more satisfied with relationship sex. If I was a man I’d be more worried about being compared to LTR partners than casual partners. High N primarily involves the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 07:21 PM
4

Who are these people? I have never met any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 11:50 PM
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The idea being women can't miss what they never had, and if all they had was bad sex from their inferior husband, they can't long after better sex since they think that is all sex is. It is telling that they never acknowledge how comparison might work in their favor. They don’t even seem to consider the possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 02:16 PM
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How can something I found so fulfilling, and benefitted from in so many ways, be “time wasted”? Just because my dating pool isn’t quite as large as it once was? It’s still pretty large...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 12:01 AM
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Talk to people in real life. This is the answer
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 03:44 PM
2

I don’t necessarily disagree with you there but I view that as a separate issue entirely. That’s about having (perhaps unrealistically) high standards, not purposely avoiding partnering up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 01:34 PM
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I’ll believe it when I see it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 03:40 AM
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She's speaking to women who, in their 20s, think they are above settling down and want to put it off until they're older. My point is I’ve never met a woman who purposely avoided partnering up in her twenties, I’ve only heard about them here. I’m not entirely convinced they exist, or if they do it’s at a much lower rate than men around here seem to perceive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 03:27 AM
5

A teenager with a southern accent? Just like the girl in this story
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 02:54 AM
5

I mean I’d be pretty disappointed to find out an innocent boy got into porn...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 02:14 AM
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I don’t consider my relationships wasted time at all so please drop the patronization.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 01:27 AM
3

Right, that is the ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 01:22 AM
3

Psh I would never use the phrase “you go girl”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 08:41 PM
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Again, if I wanted to get married badly enough I would’ve been married by now, as would have most still-single women my age. I already conceded that point. That doesn’t mean I spent my twenties avoiding partnering up, nor do I know any women who did. That was MY point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 07:42 PM
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Trust me, when those “livin it up, you go girl style” women find a man they want to commit to, they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 07:21 PM
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I used myself as an example because I can only speak for myself, though I know my experience isn’t uncommon. If you broke up with the men that you were partnered with, then you don't want to marry badly enough. In other words, if I wanted to get married badly enough I would’ve settled for a man I wasn’t happy with. I actually don’t disagree with you there, I think it happens a lot to women (and men) who want to get married badly enough. In my opinion it should not be encouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 07:16 PM
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Why are you assuming they can’t find someone willing to partner up with them? I know I could find guys willing to partner up with me, I just haven’t met one I’M willing to partner up with for life. Call me picky - I’m the first to admit that - but don’t tell me what I do or do not want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 06:58 PM
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I had two LTRs in my twenties and neither of them worked out. Hence, I have not found anyone to partner up with yet. What is so hard to understand here?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 06:05 PM
3

Okey dokey
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 05:40 PM
8

you marry a 19-20 year old girl next door with n=1 or 2, and in exchange for having all of her prime attractiveness/fertility years she gets all of your prime earning/status/attractiviness years and support This is obviously no longer a favorable option for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 05:26 PM
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I mean these are the same people who complain about gold diggers and “divorce rape,” while in the same breath bashing women for pursuing careers. By now I just assume everything women do is evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 05:14 PM
12

It’s fine to beta bux someone when you’re young, is my impression.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 04:52 PM
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I don’t buy “too picky,” because what’s the alternative? Settle down with someone you’re not really sure about? No thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 04:38 PM
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What I don’t get about this advice is that from my perspective most women who find themselves single in their 30s were not consciously avoiding “partnering up” in their 20s, they just didn’t find anyone they wanted to partner up with for life. Like I’m 28 and single but I spent most of my 20s in relationships. For most of my last relationship I honestly thought we’d get married but it just didn’t work out. Most single women I know who are my age or older have similar experiences - they had relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 03:59 PM
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He’s right that some men can find easy sex at a club, yes. He’s not right that every woman in a club is looking to be hit on. It’s like saying everyone who goes to a music festival is looking to get high. In reality some are looking to get high, some aren’t looking for it but will end up saying yes to it, others are honestly just there to enjoy the music. You’d be right to say “I can easily buy drugs at a music festival,” you’d be wrong to say “everyone at a music festival is looking to buy or s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 02:44 PM
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My original comment was a joke, hence being under auto mod. I wasn’t making an argument I was being snarky. Of course people hook up in clubs, of course if you want a trashy ONS it’s a good place to find one. Doesn’t mean this OP is right though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 09:24 PM
1

Are any of us real though? Is ANYTHING real?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 05:25 AM
7

If men are so scared of divorce rape why do they get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 04:57 AM
1

Just because you can get a ONS at a club doesn’t mean every woman there is looking to be hit on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 02:10 AM
1

Thank you, captain obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 01:36 AM
1

I think it’s both, I don’t see why it has to be either/or. It’s also contextual, sometimes you crave validation other times you’re honestly just feelin yourself. Women get defensive about this topic because a lot of men act like there’s no way to feel good about the way you look absent external validation, which is just wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 09:23 PM
1

Whether or not it’s true is besides the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:57 PM
2

The only times I’ve ever been to clubs were to see specific DJs I liked
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:47 PM
2

Eh, it’s a trade off. Gotta take the good with the bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:43 PM
3

Who are you doing it for?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 05:40 AM
7

Why is it so hard to understand that being attractive makes people feel good about themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 05:25 AM
5

Ok but that still doesn’t mean they are doing it in order to be hit on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 05:04 AM
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Of course, and I like it when men say I look good too. It’s just not necessary in order for me to think I look good. Also there have been plenty of times I’ve been told I looked good but it didn’t do shit for my own self-perception, because I didn’t think I looked good.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 10:05 PM
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I’ve never slept with anyone I’d consider a “loser” but I’ve drunkenly slept with a man I wouldn’t have slept with sober. Afterwards I felt dumb and embarrassed but it wasn’t traumatic or anything like that. I’ve made worse drunken mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 09:38 PM
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I consider “seeking validation” as seeking external confirmation of your desirability - getting hit on, complimented, ogled etc. Which I’m not saying is completely irrelevant; women do usually appreciate the validation. I just object to the idea that it’s always the primary incentive for a woman to wear a sexy outfit, as if there’s no such thing as recognizing and appreciating sexiness in yourself. Like, I have worn a sexy outfit to a concert, but I hate being hit on at concerts. In such a conte…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 08:59 PM
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Not true. I can easily know when I look desirable without being hit on - I have eyes, I have life experience, I consume media, I observe people around me. If I can look at another woman and think “she looks sexy,” without ever seeing a man hit on her, what makes you think I can’t recognize the same quality in myself?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 08:48 PM
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They only feel desirable if other people desire them, sure. But they don’t necessarily need feedback in order to know this. I feel desirable when I try on a sexy outfit at home by myself. Perhaps I only feel desirable because I know other people would desire me if they saw me, but I don’t need them to literally confirm it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 08:41 PM
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Do women really wear revealing clothes to “feel good about themselves”? Sure, in the sense that being sexually desirable makes them feel good about themselves. They don’t necessarily want to be hit on. They can look in the mirror and know they look desirable - which can be enough to make them feel good about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 08:34 PM
2

But women definietly tend to sweep what turns them on under the rug in fear of personal judgment and the understandable desire not to contradict a narrative they ultimately see as good play a role in this dissonance between public and private speech. That’s a different topic that I don’t necessarily disagree with, but it has nothing to do with metoo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 04:42 PM
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Is claiming biologically inclined psychological differences between men and women controversial? Depends on the crowd. It’s not controversial among most people I know, but yeah if you tweet about it you’re gonna get some backlash. It also depends on what specific difference you’re talking about, some are more controversial than others. I don’t think the strength of the male sex drive is particularly controversial. Do you agree with the author that men are seeking truth in the manosphere due to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 04:32 PM
2

That’s probably true too
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 01:04 AM
4

I don’t believe I care
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 12:47 AM
3

I’m convinced people who make this argument have never actually step foot in a club
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 12:46 AM
6

Don’t feed the troll
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 12:34 AM
2

By “make yourself an object” I think she meant “view yourself as an object.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 04:17 PM
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I don’t give a shit about Kant, nowadays they are commonly understood to refer to separate concepts. Ever played Pictionary? It has one category called “Object,” and a separate category for “Person/Place/Animal.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 02:56 PM
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Come on Smoogs, you’re not usually this spergy. When people talk about objectification they are obviously talking about treating a human like a non-human object. Rant all you want about whether humans are technically objects, suggest another term if you prefer, but at least understand the intended meaning of the term.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 01:11 AM
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I think what’s missing from this conversation is how big the gap between their libidos is. Like if she only wants it once a week and he wants it every day, it’s ridiculous to expect her to say yes every time. But if he only wants it 2-3 times a week, it’s a more reasonable expectation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 11:28 PM
1

I’m not tripping! You know I gotchu. I was just curious since you talk about it a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 01:37 PM
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It’s a 30 year marriage, I assume the kids are grown enough to no longer serve as an excuse
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 02:17 AM
1

Do you prefer porn over sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 01:31 AM
5

Also, react and respond to flirting doesn't necessarily correlate to sex on demand 10 years down the line. Seriously. I am reminded of the quote “show me a beautiful woman, and I'll show you a man who's tired of fucking her.” IT WORKS BOTH WAYS.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 11:30 PM
2

Red red wine you make me feel so fine
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 03:13 AM
1

It’s a red wine kinda night
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 03:10 AM
5

Not necessarily the norm in my experience, but it’s not uncommon. Happy Friday btw. What are you drinking tonight?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 11:28 PM
4

If it walks like a duck...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 08:57 PM
6

There is a strong correlation between idiocy and spamming. How many non-idiots do you think worry about not being able to post to ppd more than once in 12 hours?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 01:11 AM
2

This makes sense to me. When I used apps I would rarely swipe right based on a good bio but I would often swipe left based on a bad one. They can do more harm than good.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 12:09 AM
1

“MOMMMMM! SHE INSULTED ME BY INSULTING A GROUP OF PEOPLE I THINK SHE THINKS I AM A PART OF!”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 12:49 AM
6

Reported. For what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 11:09 PM
2

They don’t tell me. They claim the opposite, which is the funny part. “Watch what they do...”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 10:01 PM
1

That’s fine but studies show a certain amount of makeup is more effective for women than zero makeup when it comes to attracting men. My personal experience and observations show the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 08:28 PM
3

That simply isn’t true. Most men don’t like excessive makeup, but they prefer subtle/natural makeup over zero makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 05:39 PM
3

I meant they hate men lifting. Just like men hate women wearing makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 05:14 PM
4

Just like most women hate lifting eh
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 04:28 PM
2

then what do you expect him to do with the extra libido? Just spend all that time teeming with frustration? To be fair, it doesn’t sound like she’d expect him not to masturbate. Just not to use porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 03:20 PM
7

What universe do you live in where men would be happy about women giving up makeup?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 02:41 PM
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Right, one day it’s “metoo is making men less willing to hire women!” The next day it’s “women get hired just for being women!” Pick a side guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 12:58 AM
3

I am familiar with arguments for and against it, and while I’d like to believe it’s not a thing, the empirical evidence speaks for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 09:37 PM
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Autogynephilia But to be clear, I’m not arguing that being a woman sucks so much worse than being a man, I’m arguing that the fact that more men like to roleplay as women doesn’t mean actually being a woman is easier. Maybe it is easier, but this is not the evidence I’d use to support that argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 09:00 PM
3

How do they find being a woman easier than being a man when they’ve never actually been a woman? Like, drag queens, really?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 08:50 PM
2

All you pointed out was that some men like to jerk off while wearing female masks
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 08:17 PM
4

You have to be trolling at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 07:34 PM
6

Remember that they define ease of life by ease of obtaining sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 07:18 PM
6

There are non trans guys who enjoy dressing up and being treated like women though. There was actually something on TV about it recently. They have plastic face masks that make them look like they have a woman's face. Ah yes because a man putting on a female mask will totally be treated like a woman. They enjoy their FANTASY of what being treated like a woman is like. Pure fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 07:16 PM
1

Yeah if she’s not attracted to you it’s even weirder
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 04:07 AM
6

Right? This OP was such a letdown to read
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 02:08 AM
2

Sure it happens, but baseless accusations against the same person on multiple occasions, one of which got him fired? I would need proof to believe that’s ever happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 02:04 AM
2

If you want to give the benefit of the doubt to someone who has been accused of inappropriate workplace conduct on (at least) 3 separate occasions, by (at least) 3 different people, go right ahead, but I’m gonna use Occam’s razor here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 01:28 AM
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His employer clearly thought it was a fireable offense. Have you seen his comment history? Apparently this isn’t the first time someone has perceived his behavior as “not okay” at work: I work on a dementia unit. Already accused of inappropriate bc by female resident. And that’s not even the only other time. He said a patient accused him too!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 01:16 AM
1

Ok...writing a poem about a coworker you aren’t yet involved with is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 01:01 AM
2

Also not her coworker
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 12:52 AM
1

You really think he got fired over a witty, non-romantic poem? If so I hope he is suing for wrongful termination.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 12:50 AM
1

I just see it as courtesy. Like if I text a friend and ask if he or she is free to hang out tonight, I would rather they say “nope, sorry” than just not respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 04:11 PM
1

Why does it have to be a “weird convo” though? Most people accept a polite rejection. I‘ve never had a guy react poorly to the “I think you’re great but this isn’t a romantic match” line.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 04:03 AM
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I agree. Whenever people (of either gender) go on about their “crazy ex” I see it as a red flag. Multiple crazy exes? Run.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 03:08 AM
1

It makes me feel like a more decent human being because I know ignoring someone makes them feel even shittier. Also many people will reach out again if you don’t respond, hoping you were just busy or forgot to respond. Giving them a clear “no” reduces the chance of future contact. I have ghosted before and I rationalized it the same way you do: “no response should obviously be interested as a lack of interest.” But my experience suggests otherwise - they will almost always follow up again, at le…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:41 AM
1

Why on earth would you mention the specific reason? Just go with “I think you’re great but this isn’t a romantic match.”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 12:24 AM
5

A pusse?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 03:08 PM
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I am a promiscuous woman who does not shame men who don’t want me and who does not lie about my sexual history. AMA.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 08:07 PM
5

Maybe if she was raised with no access to tv, movies, internet or print media. Maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 10:19 PM
5

8 inches makes me cringe
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 10:14 PM
1

Ok this explains a lot. Girl needs a drink!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 07:40 PM
8

She might’ve just lost interest during the conversation. That happened to me a lot while using apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 09:32 PM
3

No idea what you’re talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 07:01 PM
4

You’re doing that thing where you argue against stuff the person you responded to never said. Please direct your rant elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 06:39 PM
3

What’s the male-male equivalent of sexual harassment?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 04:56 PM
1

I’m confused by the whole “take birth control to have casual sex” thing. If you’re having casual sex you should be using condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:35 PM
3

I didn’t realize men groped and ogled male coworkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 02:51 PM
2

Same
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 11:22 PM
2

I never decided anything one way or the other, I just did whatever felt right. Sometimes it ended up being casual sometimes it ended up turning into something more. Sometimes I wanted it to turn into something more and he didn’t, sometimes vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 09:45 PM
8

There’s an enormous difference
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 02:13 PM
9

No one would deny that women like WEDDINGS more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 02:05 PM
8

No, just go talk to any couple about the potential of getting married and see who balks at the idea. Watch what they do...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 01:52 PM
6

This is why I wear sunglasses on the subway: no accidental eye contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 01:02 AM
1

Do you mean the platform or on the actual train?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 12:52 AM
1

So are women, it’s just different requirements. Sure some men will fuck literally anyone regardless of effort, but women do have to put in effort to attract men they want to attract. I’d never think of his attraction as a “reward,” I think of it as more of a response, but I get how one would perceive it as a reward. I think what you’re missing though, is that when women object to the “sex as a reward” thing they are objecting to the idea that women intentionally use sex as a reward, not that men…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 08:43 PM
1

Men typically sleep with women they find attractive. So if I make myself attractive - sexy outfit, makeup, etc - with the intention of attracting a man, is he rewarding me or am I rewarding him? Are we rewarding each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 08:15 PM
2

Just get a body pillow
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 02:51 PM
2

I always thought it was when he fucks her once and then never calls again
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 01:22 PM
4

You are using a different definition of “pumped and dumped” than most. It does not mean “casual sex.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 01:25 AM
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One has urinals and one has stalls (which to me means it actually has one men's bathroom and one gender neutral bathroom Oh fuck that. It’s essentially giving men their own room to pee in, and then they and everyone else pees and shits in the ladies room. No thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 01:24 AM
2

What’s the alternative - agree to be exclusive on the first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 10:52 PM
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It doesn’t take THAT long to figure out his intentions. And if he actually likes you he will wait a bit. He might be fucking other women in the meantime but he won’t just drop you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 08:48 PM
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There’s no surefire way, but your best bet is to hold off on sex until he gives you signs he wants you for more than sex. Most guys who are only looking for sex will quickly move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 06:57 PM
4

In my opinion you did nothing wrong (morally). Your behavior shouldn’t be encouraged, because the more people who park in empty handicapped spots the more issues there will be, but if it’s a one-off thing where you were in a hurry, parking was limited and there were other handicapped spots available, whatever. God will forgive you. Even granny probably will.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 06:49 PM
3

Typically, yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 09:25 PM
6

Money, yeah, but not “squares with money.” That’s just who they settled for. Just like the guys settled for them. I hope your friend found someone more compatible!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 07:24 PM
4

u/PennnyLame is right, I don’t believe your friends’ exes were looking for or expecting squares.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 07:11 PM
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Yeah who are all these former party girls looking for a total square of a man to settle down with? I don’t know any, and I’ve known a lottt of party girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 06:56 PM
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That’s definitely part of it but it’s not just about effort. Even if you do everything in your power to obtain sex, you’re still not entitled to it. You’ll probably get more sympathy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 05:26 PM
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Right. Men don’t act entitled to love, so it’s not something anyone feels the need to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 03:43 PM
1

What makes it abusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 04:50 AM
4

Why am I turned on rn
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 02:58 AM
2

So only those who say they need medical treatment have an illness?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 07:19 PM
3

How is something that requires lifelong medical treatment not an illness?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 07:04 PM
1

This is a bizarre argument; most people with fetishes don’t flaunt it on the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 07:00 PM
1

So if my husband is nagging me for sex and gets moody when I say no, he’s abusing me?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 04:07 PM
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Idk what you’re talking about, what I objected to was the idea that screaming or nagging are “husband training” strategies. I agreed screaming can be abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 03:40 PM
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Ah yes because all men are wonderful doting husbands who can do no wrong 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 03:29 PM
2

Men complain about their wives, women complain about their husbands. News at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 12:21 AM
1

Not trying to cover for her. Her frustration might be completely irrational, but it’s still frustration.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 11:48 PM
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I get what you’re saying, it’s just not the type of thing women mean when they talk about “husband training.” Yelling and nagging is not a conscious strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 07:29 PM
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Hmm no, I think she’s expressing her frustration. Like if my coworker is procrastinating on a project and I keep reminding them about it (in marital terms, “nagging”) I wouldn’t call that “training” - I just want them to finish the damn project. When I think of “husband training” I think of stuff like giving him sex when he does something you want, or making his favorite meal, picking up his favorite beer etc - and withholding those things when he doesn’t do what you want. Nagging or yelling is …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 05:59 PM
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To me the most socially normalized scenario is the sexually frigid wife who nags her husband constantly while he sits on the couch drinking beer and ignoring her - until he wants sex, then he’s suddenly like “honey look I did that thing you’ve been asking me to do for months!” She rolls her eyes at him for expecting a treat for finally doing what she considers to be the bare minimum, and he’s resentful that she still isn’t nice to him even when he does what she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 04:22 PM
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Yeah if she screams at him even when he does what she asks, I’d say that’s emotional abuse. I would not say it’s socially acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 03:12 PM
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I mean it depends on the context. Screaming at him when he brings home the wrong type of flowers? No. Nagging him to clean up after himself? Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 02:12 PM
1

Being a stereotypical nagging shrew is a little different from “outright physical abuse and screaming.” If what he really meant was that his ex was like a typical sitcom wife, I would not consider that abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 02:00 PM
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Husbands being lazy useless losers is also a common sitcom trope
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 01:25 PM
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Keyword “joked.” My ex used to joke about hitting me and no one pushed back...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 01:17 AM
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That’s awful but I’m not sure it’s a socially acceptable form of “husband training.” I’m pretty sure the vast majority of this gynocentric society would consider that abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 12:47 AM
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Can you give a concrete example of this abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 12:15 AM
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I didn’t say anything about lying. If you’re promiscuous, then you are not repressed. In your example, she is merely lying about her repression. You don’t think a woman who doesn’t know how to enjoy sex is sexually repressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/18 06:39 PM
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I wouldn’t expect you to know the women I’m talking about. It is not the type of thing women talk openly about, especially to men. There’s a lot of guilt and shame involved. It’s much easier for women to admit “I’m waiting til marriage” than “I’ve had sex with 30 guys and I have never enjoyed it.”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/18 05:56 PM
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So some of the most repressed and confused women I've met were also the most outwardly promiscuous. This is why this question doesn’t make sense to me. The most sexually repressed woman I know personally is also one of the most promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/18 04:54 PM
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Restricting the expression of your own sexuality. This can exist in an “extreme” state whether or not the woman is having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/18 04:10 PM
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How are you defining “sexually repressed”? Like what is the extreme version of it - a woman who doesn’t even have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/18 03:53 PM
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Those two things are not mutually exclusive, you can be sexually repressed but still feel pressured to have sex like a porn star. Many young women experience both; their own sexuality is repressed while they cater to male sexuality. They’re getting throat-fucked on the reg yet they don’t know how to have an orgasm. That is still sexual repression.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/18 03:48 PM
2

Ah yeah I believe it in the south
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 07:49 PM
2

Yes but I wouldn’t call that “chubby schlub”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 07:49 PM
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I work in finance and can’t think of a single senior-level person who is overweight. Same goes for most of the doctors and lawyers I know, they’re not ripped but they’re not overweight. I’m having trouble with the “more often than not” portion of your statement. Maybe it’s geographical? I’m from NYC.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 07:22 PM
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investment banker/lawyer/doctor type is more often than not a chubby schlub because those professions demand long hours often times not exercising - and putting your career ahead of diet fitness etc. How can you say that when wealthy people are overwhelmingly fitter than poor people? Statistically there is a very strong correlation between income and weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 07:08 PM
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The latter
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 08:13 PM
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Makes sense. We’d probably get along.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 08:10 PM
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Oh of course. That’s just dating though, isn’t it? You’re “test driving” each other, there’s always the risk of the other person deciding it’s not gonna work. I’m not sure what the alternative is?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 07:39 PM
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What do you mean him deciding it for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 07:30 PM
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Why do you assume that? Pure curiosity
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 05:53 PM
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But the issue being discussed is the timing of the sex, not the quality of the sex. A more apt analogy would be a guy who immediately lavished previous partners with gifts and vacations before getting into a relationship with them, but then decides he wants to secure your commitment before lavishing you. Which would be totally understandable, I’d just assume he learned his lesson after being so generous right off the bat with previous partners. The situation you described is analogous to a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 05:51 PM
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The quality of sex is a big part of it but it’s also just that I need to get to know him before deciding whether he is “commitment-worthy” or not. Any red flags I can think of that would dissuade me from seeing a man as commitment-worthy right off the bat, would also dissuade me from wanting to sleep with him. So if I’m sleeping with someone, it means I either see him as commitment-worthy or I haven’t decided yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 05:04 PM
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In this instance, why not make it easy for him? A lot of guys take a “sure why not” approach to a reasonably attractive woman offering herself to him. I want to minimize that to the extent possible. I can easily see how many guys, myself included, would take your actions as a sign of disinterest. I’m not sure what you mean by my “actions,” I think you might be misinterpreting my comment. When I’m into a guy I make it pretty clear that I’m into him (I think), it’s not like I withhold affection or…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 11:12 PM
3

And not even the fun kind!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 10:30 PM
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I don’t play “hard to get,” per se, but I am conscious of whether or not I’m coming on too strong (not sure if that’s the same thing, I don’t think so?). I also tend to leave the ball in his court in order to confirm he’s into me. Most guys will be “into you” if you make it easy for them, so letting them come to you is a better way to gauge their feelings for you. I‘ve never followed any rules with respect to how soon I sleep with a guy, though most of the time I don’t feel comfortable doing it …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 07:23 PM
4

Hair pulling I can believe, pussy kicking is just...weird. Boob punching or elbowing would be much more effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 06:30 PM
6

I have a similar viewpoint. I wouldn’t bet money on astrology being true, but I still enjoy it as a conversation topic. Whenever I ask someone what their sign is it leads to an interesting discussion, regardless of how well they feel their sign matches their personality. For example they’ll say “I’m an Aries but it doesn’t describe me at all” and then go on to analyze their personality traits in light of the traits assigned to Aries. I love learning about people and analyzing personality types, …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 06:05 PM
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❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 01:44 AM
1

Cheers to that
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 12:46 AM
2

3 female coworkers = many women?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 12:17 AM
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Do you not even consider the possibility that she genuinely enjoys his company as a friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 11:51 PM
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I think it’s mostly women who are creeped out by the fetishistic component. Btw are u drinking today? Not yet. I will have a glass of wine (or 2 or 3) when I get home
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 11:39 PM
1

Femininity in men is looked down upon. Also, the fetishistic aspect of transsexualism creeps people out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 10:35 PM
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Sauna, steam room AND hot tub? That’s the weirdest part of this whole thing to me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 01:52 PM
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I’ve never brought a friend on a date where it would just be the 3 of us, I think that would be very strange, but I have had first dates in group settings. A couple months ago I had a first date at a concert, we were both planning on going with friends anyway so we got seats near each other and ended up merging our groups of friends. It was great, everyone got along and it took the pressure off to have friends there in case it didn’t go well. Would recommend.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 12:45 PM
1

I don’t think that’s why transwomen are disliked
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 12:08 PM
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To be fair, it is predominantly a gay disease
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 01:04 AM
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Women are the biggest fag hags of all
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 12:45 AM
3

This OP is about politics
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 12:19 AM
2

Fetishized by politics? In what sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 12:17 AM
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My lifelong impression is that gay men are disliked, lesbians are ignored. Same goes for MTF vs FTM transsexuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 12:11 AM
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I don’t deny that, but I genuinely do not understand judging a man’s character by how well you imagine he’d fuck you - upon meeting him, before you even get to know him. I have trouble believing it is a common tendency. I think it’s more likely they were joking around.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 12:01 AM
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Big difference between fantasizing about attractive men and judging a man’s character on how you imagine he’d fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 11:40 PM
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to many women He was clearly using the comments of these 3 women to make a claim about “many women,” and drawing broad conclusions compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 11:38 PM
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Probably because he’s generalizing based on the off-handed comments of a few female coworkers. And this: judges a man character on how she’d imagine him in bed Just sounds absurd to me. I don’t think it’s the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 11:14 PM
2

It was a meaningless question
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 06:52 PM
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I can’t remember ever fantasizing about a male friend, even those I find attractive. I might have a passing thought of what it would be like, but that’s the extent of it. I pretty much only fantasize about men I’ve already been with or men who don’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 06:13 PM
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I’m going to Vegas to see Phish. Any Phish fans around here?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 06:59 PM
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His grandmother who he speaks very highly of
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 11:25 PM
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I wanna party with nan
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 06:13 PM
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Who’s more fun though, you or nan?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 06:09 PM
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Nan <3
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 03:15 PM
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When you ignore biology Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 06:48 PM
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I’m not sure it’s emotions, it’s overthinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 03:28 AM
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This is weird. Striking up a conversation with a stranger does not need to be so complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 03:16 AM
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It’s totally what the headline is implying, that’s why they chose it. Click bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 10:22 PM
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My theory is that a lot of men who send unsolicited dick pics are motivated by exhibitionism, they’re not necessarily expecting it to “work.”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 02:59 AM
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So? They also claim they’re women before any sort of treatment. They won’t dare make it objectively measurable, because they know they might never pass or be able to get surgery. The ONLY definition they can use without throwing themselves or other trans people under the bus is a subjective one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 09:52 PM
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Again, I think that’s the goal. To make it subjectively determined.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 09:44 PM
1

Don’t they say the difference lies in the brain, not the body?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 09:26 PM
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Ofc they think gender exists, they just don’t think it’s based solely on the physical
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 09:05 PM
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If you are only a woman if you pass as a woman, then that definition is transphobic itself and relies on defining the term "woman" as a social stereotype of what we think a woman looks like I meant the point is for people to NOT be able to look at someone and say “that’s a woman.” In other words to not assume gender based on appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 08:37 PM
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You are running afoul of condition 'C' here. Given this definition, you cannot tell whether someone is a woman or not. Isn’t that the point? They don’t want you to be able to tell. I don’t think of trans women as women btw. The definition I provided is just the best one I could think of. It has to be an “or” thing in order to make the slightest bit of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 08:02 PM
1

A woman is an adult female OR an adult male who wants to be female. Boom.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 07:45 PM
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Come on Smoogs we all know trans women aren’t included under the term “women” around here
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 06:33 PM
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Yeah she’s lucky in that she still has a great shape even with the extra weight. She has a distinct waist which is rare for fat women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 04:31 AM
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She is definitely fat https://goo.gl/images/5JTm9x
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:09 AM
2

Ashley Graham
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 12:08 AM
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It is worth the sacrifice in my opinion. I do not envy the male gender role in this context, I’d rather have too much attention than none. But that doesn’t mean I’m “humble-bragging” when I complain about the downsides. And there ARE real downsides, beyond just “ew this unattractive guy dared to speak to me.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 05:18 PM
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I have no issue with people judging other people for their sexual behavior, past or present. But in the interest of devil’s advocate, I wonder if in practice it matters as much as people claim it does. If you asked me if I’d hypothetically date a man who’s paid for sex I’d say probably not, but if I had been with a man for years and found out he had paid for sex in the past, I can’t imagine breaking up over it. I think that’s what most people have trouble accepting: whether this type of informat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 03:33 PM
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You’re not going to convince me that it can’t be genuinely discomforting and annoying. I’ve lived it. I am sure when I am older and washed up I will lament the fact that I get no attention AT ALL. I will not lament the fact that I don’t get the bad kind of attention anymore, i.e., the kind of attention most women complain about. Not everything is all good or all bad. At my old job I used to complain about how busy I was and how many hours I had to work. My current job has a much better quality o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 03:06 PM
2

Okey dokey
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 02:14 AM
3

Never having to approach is female privilege, being hit on by men you’re not attracted to and who are aggressive and creepy is an undesirable consequence of female privilege. Suggesting that women who complain about unwanted sexual attention are bragging is male solipsism. Nothing to do with female privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 01:54 AM
7

Maybe try responding to a woman who doesn’t, might make you look less dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 01:39 AM
10

I literally acknowledged the privilege, but sure, keep saying “it’s a privilege women here will never acknowledge.” I know it makes you feel better. Let it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 01:23 AM
6

If they made it clear they’re ok with it, it’s not rape
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 12:42 AM
3

I don’t think it’s fake, a lot of guys do this
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 12:41 AM
4

Nope. I’m on my second glass of wine after a long day of work. Sarcasm is all I can offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 11:41 PM
6

The gym definitely helps
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 11:39 PM
5

Ooh if guardian feminists admit it, it must be true
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 11:35 PM
16

Women want to be approached, just not by men they don’t like. Which I understand from a man’s perspective is ridiculous, because how can men possibly know the difference. But for what it’s worth, I don’t think I’ve ever heard a woman complain about simply being approached even by a man she isn’t attracted to. I’m sure some women do but it’s not that common in my experience, and I have a lot of female friends who complain about this type of stuff. But what they complain about is being aggressivel…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 11:34 PM
7

No, it’s really just annoying and people like to vent about annoying things
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 11:16 PM
9

It’s an undesirable consequence of female privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 11:15 PM
5

This is something that has always confused me, they say take pussy off the pedestal but then use pussy as the barometer of how valuable they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 07:26 PM
3

People complain about “fact of life” phenomena all the time. Case in point, this entire subreddit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 06:32 PM
10

Do many women complain about friendly flirtation though, even if it’s unwanted? I assumed OP was talking about more aggressive, inappropriate and/or persistent forms of sexual attention, which is what I hear most women complaining about. I have never heard a woman complain about being hit on if the guy was being perfectly nice and respectful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 05:22 PM
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No this is pure male solipsism. From a female perspective there is nothing brag-worthy about experiencing something the vast majority of women experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 05:05 PM
1

I agree I’m in my late twenties and think men in their 30s (and even sometimes early 40s) are much more attractive than men in their 20s, assuming they take care of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 10:54 PM
1

If you say so
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 08:53 PM
1

Some do. Others meet guys in bars, on Tinder, through mutual friends, etc etc. Not sure why that matters here though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 08:32 PM
1

I do not believe for a second that the amount of women who agree to casual sex when cold-approached in the middle of the day is equal to the amount of women who actually have casual sex. Statistics about casual sexual behaviors among women are much, much higher than 3%, so I’m not sure what other studies you are talking about. Feel free to share.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 07:30 PM
1

A bar is just one example of a context in which people meet casual sex partners. There are many others. I question your assertion that women in bars are all too drunk to have standards, but regardless, my point was that the study is a misleading representation of how many women are open to casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 07:19 PM
5

You have an ethical obligation to be honest about your own feelings IMO. Not necessarily to cut off all contact, unless you can tell they are indulging in self-destruction by continuing to see you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 07:04 PM
2

I agree that if he walked up to women in a bar and randomly asked them if they wanted to have sex, he would not have much success. But that’s not how it works. In reality, there is a period of flirtation. Then he asks if she wants to “get out of here” or something. He doesn’t just randomly ask if she’s up for sex like the guy did in that study.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 06:48 PM
2

That was a guy cold-approaching women in the middle of the day though, not putting the moves on them at a bar. Far more women will be open to the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 06:35 PM
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I am single and purple. I’ve made the mistake of dating men who are very similar to me. Basically male versions of me. I am not “freaked out” by it, there are some very appealing aspects of it (especially in the beginning), it just wasn’t sustainable. When you have the same negative qualities, they feed off of each other. It’s hard to grow as an individual or as a couple when that’s the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 05:26 PM
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Synonymous TO YOU. Or even to most men. It doesn’t work that way for women. Just because most men see them as synonymous doesn’t mean they are. Men are not the final arbitrators of synonyms. There are plenty of men I find attractive but not sexually appealing in the slightest; those concepts are not the same to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 09:27 PM
4

They fucking love it. Even the big-bad-dom types.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 09:10 PM
1

No I haven’t. Facial features aren’t secondary sex characteristics. I think the term you are looking for is sexually dimorphic, but that still wouldn’t cover all uses of makeup. Stuff like covering blemishes or undereye circles, both major uses of conventional makeup, doesn’t enhance sexually dimorphic features.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 09:05 PM
1

I did read the study. It doesn’t say covering a blemish makes a woman appear more fertile. I get that it makes her more attractive, but you said more fertile. Obviously not ALL makeup lol we are talking about conventional female makeup. The thing is, there is not a clearly defined line. I have a friend who wears tacky blue eye shadow because she likes it, but people mock her for it. There are women who wear way too much makeup and it actually ends up making them appear older and less attractive.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 08:53 PM
1

How does lack of blemishes make women appear more fertile? I’d think if anything blemishes would be a sign of fertility, since pre-pubescent humans don’t have them. Acne comes with puberty. And what about costume makeup? You never responded to that. If I dress up in crazy makeup for Halloween, am I making myself more sexually appealing?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 08:41 PM
1

Also, that quote you pasted isn’t defining secondary sex characteristics. The study doesn’t even use the term.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 08:01 PM
1

How is covering up a zit with concealer enhancing secondary sex characteristics? Plz explain
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 08:00 PM
1

It’s a scientific term that refers to sexually dimorphic features that appear during puberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 07:38 PM
1

Where does that say facial features are secondary sex characteristics
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 07:33 PM
2

Sure because breasts are a secondary sex characteristic. Facial features are not. Back to the original point though, makeup has way more uses than to make yourself sexually attractive. Like, if I dress up in clown makeup for Halloween, it would be silly to say I am sexualizing myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 07:22 PM
1

My ex found me more attractive naturally than with makeup, so he would disagree too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 07:11 PM
1

I used to read a lot of women’s magazines and still do when I’m getting a pedicure or something, but I read them for the beauty, sex and fashion content. Many of those magazines aren’t even very feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 06:55 PM
1

No I do not admit it. Some are definitely not sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 06:48 PM
1

There’s a ton of people I find attractive but not sexually appealing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 06:29 PM
1

Only as a result of someone posting them here
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 05:52 PM
1

They are very divorced to me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 05:44 PM
1

To you it’s sexually appealing, to me it’s not necessarily intended to be
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 03:27 AM
1

I’m not offended I’m just confused. If I use makeup to cover a zit when I go out to dinner with my family, it seems odd to call that “sexualizing.” How far does this go, like if I whiten my teeth is that sexualizing? If I put neon blue eye shadow on, and I think it looks good but everyone else thinks it looks bad, is that sexualizing?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 02:28 AM
1

When I cover up a zit with concealer, is that inherently sexualizing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 01:29 AM
1

What the actual fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 10:00 PM
1

Yeah there’s kinda no coming back from it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 01:25 AM
3

You can lose respect after marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 11:05 PM
47

Contempt
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 10:38 PM
1

Look at my post history I made a thread about this exact topic a while back
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 01:43 PM
2

What makes you think so? The average dad is fat...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 10:55 PM
4

I am actually attracted to Seth Rogen but yeah it has nothing to do with his bod.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 06:38 PM
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Closer to the first one and yes it’s attractive. No it’s not meant to refer to the average dad’s body. Yes you should still exercise. It’s kinda like how men use the term MILF - it usually refers to a mom who is still hot and on the younger side, not the average 45 year old mother. Edit: Jon Hamm is peak dad bod though. There is more leeway in how the term is used, though not enough leeway to include Seth Rogen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 06:25 PM
7

It leads to adult women with even more sexual hangups
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 05:24 PM
1

I guess it could go either way, though the idea of getting naked before being touched seems odd to me. But the person above just listed “being rough” as a potential motivation to withdraw consent, not the only reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 05:16 PM
2

The study is about withdrawing consent, not getting consent in the first place. Surely by the time two people are naked together, they’ve already been touching each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 05:10 PM
3

Your OP is about revoking consent after getting naked. You don’t think any “sexual touching” has happened at that point? They get naked and THEN start touching?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 05:00 PM
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A sex bot cock carousel would be equally as disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 04:35 PM
2

She probably meant with his hands, which definitely happens
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 04:17 PM
2

The latter is pretty much my type sooo
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 04:50 AM
2

No it’s not
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 11:05 PM
2

Where is the figure of speech?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 10:59 PM
2

You think she meant it...figuratively?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 10:52 PM
2

He’s def in the minority
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 10:51 PM
3

Really? It’s totally normal where I work
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 10:12 PM
3

In what universe is “would you like to have cocktails naked next time” an appropriate thing to ask a professional associate? I mean even in a non-professional context that’s a cringey thing to say. In a professional context it’s way worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 09:48 PM
2

I wouldn’t call it offensive but it’s annoying and awkward in a professional context, for sure. You seem to be viewing it as an isolated incident. It’s not. It happens over and over. There is a cumulative frustration that cannot be captured through a single text chain.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 09:24 PM
2

And I’m saying I’ve spoken to far more women about heartbreak than you have, and I’ve seen firsthand that they have more difficulty coping with first heartbreaks than subsequent heartbreaks. Hands down. This holds true even when their subsequent heartbreaks are with more “alpha” men. But what happens to some women - and I think this is probably the most extreme form of “alpha widowhood” - is that they are so damaged by the first heartbreak that they settle for men they know won’t hurt them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 08:40 PM
1

Pretty sure I’ve counseled far more women through breakups than you have
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 08:00 PM
3

The first heartbreak will always be the most difficult to get over.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 06:56 PM
3

Oh for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 06:19 PM
3

I’m not sure there is a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 05:59 PM
3

Not necessarily. I meant almost every woman I know was irrationally infatuated with her first love and took a long time to get over him. Sometimes the guy was shitty, sometimes he wasn’t. I don’t know the details of their fantasy lives but I’m sure many fantasized about him while dating other men. Edit to add: this happens to men too
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 05:22 PM
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The infatuation described in the OP is a first-love type of infatuation (though she’s a little crazier than normal). It’s happened to almost every woman I know who has been in love regardless of partner count.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 05:16 PM
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Right. His analogy only works if the sausage smoker has never been a CFO. In other words if the CC rider has never had a healthy LTR. Which is not a given at all. Edit: or if she has been a CFO, but a shitty one
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 02:00 PM
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For the record I think it’s a shitty analogy but my understanding is that CFO = serious girlfriend (essentially a potential wife). So if he’s trying to find a serious girlfriend he’d prefer a woman who has had one or two serious relationships over a woman who has only slept around. Which I get. Where the analogy falls apart is that many women do both - date around, get into a LTR, date around again if it ends. They have experience smoking sausage AND being CFO.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 01:54 PM
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I think he’s saying he’d prefer a CFO with experience being a CFO for one or two companies prior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 01:46 PM
4

It depends on the woman. Some orgasm, some don’t but can still find it pleasurable, some just get satisfaction out of pleasing a man sexually, some are just drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 12:11 AM
2

I have no real survival skills but I will find a way to ferment alcohol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 10:51 PM
9

I mean...it’s true
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 09:19 PM
1

Ok...what about all the women who don’t show off their cleavage but still complain about being sexually objectified? Are their complaints valid?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 09:08 PM
1

Ah yes because a woman with cleavage is a woman whose only value is her cleavage /s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 07:52 PM
1

Ah. Well, to answer your OP, I don’t think women complain about being valued for their looks. They complain about being valued ONLY for their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 07:43 PM
1

So what about men who wear V necks, are they tryna show off their cleavage
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 07:34 PM
1

Sorry what is this “hole” you are talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 07:24 PM
2

Haha I like this one
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 07:11 PM
2

+/u/User_Simulator LSTW1234
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 06:04 PM
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+u/User_Simulator LSTW Edit: what did I do wrong guys Edit2: I at least wrote my username wrong. How embarrassing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 05:51 PM
1

No I meant the reverse. Why do some men have fantasies about being dominated or raped by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 01:07 AM
1

Yes my company has certain software they force us to use IE for.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 12:50 AM
1

Why do men? Serious question
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 12:23 AM
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This is the ideal fantasy. Like, you want it at the time, but then eventually regret it and cry rape. Ruin his social reputation, maybe even give him a little legal scare. So fucking hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 12:22 AM
4

Brett Kavanaugh, more like Brett KavaNO MEANS YES Brett KavAHOLIC
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 08:24 PM
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Ah my bad, you came off like you hadn’t seen it. But I’d use the whole thing as a basis for arguing he’s unfit. He wasn’t just upset, he was belligerent, rude, evasive and incredibly partisan. This is just my personal opinion though; I’m sure he’ll still get confirmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:23 PM
2

You didn’t even watch the hearing. Did you form that whole opinion based on a 2 min clip?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 05:05 PM
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https://youtu.be/IHBvOImIZNU He did apologize to her after the break, but still, this is just one example of the attitude he displayed throughout the entire hearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 04:38 PM
1

I think his exchange with Klobuchar was the worst. My jaw dropped.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 04:22 PM
1

https://youtu.be/VRJecfRxbr8
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 04:19 PM
1

Sure but his behavior was unacceptable nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 04:03 PM
1

I’d love to see how he’d react if someone behaved like that in his court room
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 03:46 PM
1

Stop catfishing it’s shitty
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 01:21 AM
3

Lizzy McLIAR
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 12:10 AM
1

Ok but for every guy who gets caught in a sting, 1,000,000 don’t. Idk about you but a small chance of getting caught doesn’t defer most people I know from doing something illegal, if they really want to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 12:07 AM
4

This would so work on me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 07:39 PM
2

r/GoneWildPPD
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 06:08 PM
2

Yeah then we can do a NSFW pics thread
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 05:30 PM
5

Not this time. You’ve trunked and stumped me too many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 02:42 PM
3

Slut. You only like him for his huge alpha trunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 02:37 PM
3

I had negative feelings at the time. I don’t wanna go into detail but no I’m not still suffering over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 12:38 PM
3

There are a couple experiences I’d love to have erased from my memory
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 12:29 PM
1

I got like 5 hours last night that’s not awful
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 12:28 PM
5

You had me at dog-human hybrid
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 06:20 AM
6

No, plenty of regrets about boning guys though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 06:01 AM
3

You don’t think men in abusive relationships are attracted to the abuser?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 06:00 AM
6

Such a bullshit excuse. It’s so, so easy to not get caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 03:12 AM
1

Q4Men: would you rather rape or be raped (by a female)?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 02:58 AM
6

To boost your own self esteem duh
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 02:10 AM
11

Are there really no female people you like as people but don’t want to fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 02:03 AM
2

Actually, Pluto is in retrograde too: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.refinery29.com/amp/en-us/2018/09/212587/pluto-retrograde-end-astrology-2018
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 01:55 AM
4

Forgive me, Mercury is in retrograde
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 01:39 AM
7

Aw man I posted from my alt again
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 01:31 AM
6

LIARS
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 01:29 AM
1

Stop trying to understand female attraction in the context of male attraction. We are basically asexual compared to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 01:21 AM
1

If you had omnipotence couldn’t you just bring the rappers back without having to do sacrificial killings? Don’t take the Kardashians away from me. I beg you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 11:53 PM
1

Blasphemy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 11:15 PM
1

Hey now, I love the Kardashians
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 07:54 PM
3

TFW you also have a flat ass 😩
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 02:53 PM
5

I thought the point was to change your view, not prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 02:49 PM
5

I feel personally attacked
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 02:41 PM
1

Same, teenage me loved Cosmo
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 06:09 AM
2

Haha I actually asked my parents about it recently and they were just like 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♂️ In their defense I am the youngest of 3 girls so I assume they just gave up by the time I hit puberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 01:39 AM
3

I was in middle school in the early 2000s and you know what really creeps me out thinking about now? We all wore pants that said “Juicy” on the ass. At 12 years old!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 01:36 AM
2

He doesn’t exist 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 01:18 AM
2

Mail-order Chad, I like it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 08:41 PM
3

Are they single
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 08:39 PM
1

https://youtu.be/WTWdP5DMdsM
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/18 06:44 PM
9

That’s when the catcalling started for me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 06:13 PM
6

Because I don’t value him as highly as he values me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 05:32 PM
8

I will inadvertently walk all over him
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 05:11 PM
15

My grandma used to say “find a man who loves you more than you love him.” This strategy hasn’t worked very well for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 03:18 PM
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This is true, especially for young women. Sex is often more about validation of their desirability and prowess than physical pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 05:21 PM
4

This is how every workplace romance I’ve seen has happened
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 03:01 PM
12

Don’t make it a “date,” just grab lunch or drinks a few times and try to get a better sense of her interest in you. Then think about escalating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 02:07 PM
1

I’m aware guys do that but he needs to understand that from a woman’s perspective it’s often hard to tell. I assume it’s genuine unless I have a reason to believe otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/18 08:06 PM
7

This is only surprising to men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 08:45 PM
2

Like a guy jumps to defend your point even if he has no stake in the argument. Women do that too though and it doesn’t make me feel any different. How am I supposed to know if a guy is “white knighting” or being genuine?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 12:07 PM
6

I just think manipulate is the wrong word here
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 03:10 AM
11

I appreciate it but I appreciate women defending me too. Who doesn’t want support during an argument? Odd to make it a gender thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 02:47 AM
19

Doesn’t manipulation require intent? From what you said it doesn’t sound like she’s tricking him into anything. You even said he knows about her history of cheating and lying. Sounds like this is on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 02:14 AM
17

Where is the manipulation here? Do you think she’s planning on cheating or leaving?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 01:49 AM
4

I’m not a man I just realize that any attention is more validating than none. It’s possible to realize this without personally feeling validated by the attention of desperate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 12:03 AM
6

It’s obviously low value ones complaining about it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/18 11:59 PM
7

Any attention will be more validating than none. Just the thought that there is someone out there who wants your attention is more validating than the thought that there is literally no one interested in you (or someone like you). In the former situation, even if they don’t know anything about you, at least there is potential. At least you know you fall into some vague category of “humans desired by at least a few other humans.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/18 11:11 PM
1

Who else got fired?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 02:36 AM
1

Well yeah, that was with another employee. All of the MeToo guys who got fired were in public-facing positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 01:57 PM
1

I’d be surprised if it has ever happened, except for very public allegations
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 01:56 PM
1

No there are federal guidelines. Like pregnancy or sexual orientation
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 02:46 AM
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Yeah “can’t” was probably the wrong word, I didn’t meant legally we can’t I meant at my company we can’t. But I have a lot of trouble believing any company would fire an employee for being accused of a crime without any involvement from law enforcement. I’d be surprised if that’s ever happened unless it was a widely publicized allegation or came from coworkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 12:58 AM
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No there are several categories of things you can’t be fired for.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 12:53 AM
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Yeah. I used to work as a paralegal on the legal team of a large financial corporation so we dealt with this stuff and there always had to be an arrest (at the very least; sometimes we waited til an indictment). If there’s no arrest, why would we take action?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 12:14 AM
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Really? We can only fire someone if they’re arrested. We’d never fire someone over an accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 10:06 PM
3

Can we get a phonetic spelling
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/18 09:06 PM
4

To be clear though, you do want to fuck unattractive women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/18 06:46 PM
2

Never felt better in my life. Except one of my eyes was pointing the wrong way all day. But aside from that. Genuine lol right there. You’re right though, adderall is a lifesaver for hangovers. Just have to force myself to eat, otherwise come 2pm I will be tweaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/18 06:18 PM
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Oh haha I thought you came up with it. I only know Bitch Please but I love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/18 05:11 AM
3

That last sentence sounds like something out of a rap song
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/18 05:06 AM
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This is the real male privilege. Do you know how difficult life is for a woman who likes to drink? Just the other night I went to happy hour with a couple male coworkers and drank way less than them, yet it was me who stumbled into work late the next morning, feeling and looking like death on a stick. Not fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/18 12:19 AM
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Bravo, sister. Bravo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/18 12:12 AM
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Aw that’s not nice. I am interested in human sexuality, when you read enough about it you inevitably come across some weird shit. Or some people are introduced to it by a partner or see a random tv special on it or stumble upon it on a forum like this - just as you did. Now you know it exists too! You’re welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 09:26 PM
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So you really don’t think they’d shame a dominant woman for being slutty? You never gave me an answer on that. Nor have you explained why they don’t shame non-slutty women for being submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 06:55 PM
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That makes no sense. They shame men for being submissive, but not for being slutty. Meanwhile they shame women for being slutty, but not for being submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 06:22 PM
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Way to avoid the question. In what sense are terms like “used up vag” or “loose” referring to the submissive role? It just means she’s had a lot of sex. She could’ve been in a dominant role every time and her vag would be just as used up and loose. Men don’t shame women for being submissive, only slutty.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 05:22 PM
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Yes because porn totally reflects real life /s Perhaps my terminology was misleading: I didn’t mean a pro domme whipping men in a dungeon or something, I meant a woman who prefers a dominant role in bed. They still have sex. You don’t think they’re slut-shamed?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 04:58 PM
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I hadn’t seen that response, it was still unopened in my inbox. How does that language not work on a domme? She’s still being penetrated, still receiving cum, her vag is still being “used up.”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 04:50 PM
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I understand why they’re insecure about it, it’s just to an irrational extent. When I fantasize about men I barely even focus on their dicks and I know I’m not unique in that sense. I realize there are women who are more dick-focused but it’s far from all or even most women. Women have similarly irrational insecurities, myself included. I wish we could see ourselves from our partner’s perspective, I think everyone would relax a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 04:44 PM
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Do you think if a slutty woman turned out to be a domme, she wouldn’t be slut-shamed?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 04:33 PM
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It’s not just this comment, I’ve talked to you about this before and seen you talk about it with others. You talk like you’re writing erotica sometimes, it makes me a little uncomfortable. I assume that’s why people accuse you of being gay - the way you go on about it has genuinely made me think “this guy likes dick more than most straight women I know.” Anyway, my original comment you responded to wasn’t even supposed to imply anything about whether women like big dicks or not. I was saying tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 01:29 PM
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Seriously just go fuck a guy already.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 12:48 PM
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Personal life experience of men I know who slut shame. Plus the men on here who slut shame How do you know the sexual fantasies of these men? Do you think they would tell their guy friends that they want to have their balls stomped on?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 12:48 AM
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Why do you think so? You obviously don’t actually know the fantasies of these men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 12:38 AM
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I disagree that it’s all about submissive sex. If a slutty woman turns out to be a domme, I don’t believe it would make a difference. Also disagree that it’s only men without submissive fantasies who mock slutty women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 12:31 AM
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Your original comment was “it’s fairly common for women to love degrading sex.” That was your explanation as to why men slut-shame women. Why would you use this argument if you thought it was also common for men to like degrading sex? Do you think only men who don’t have degrading fantasies slut-shame? You also said women have “far more” submissive fantasies than men do. That’s not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 11:55 PM
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You just made me go down the weirdest rabbit hole. I can’t believe I’ve never heard of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 11:39 PM
1

Florida is such a bizarre mix of people
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 11:36 PM
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Adult baby/diaper lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 11:16 PM
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Can you elaborate as to why?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 11:11 PM
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In the context of your other comments, I don’t believe for a second you meant simply “less common than women.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 11:02 PM
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Weirdly though, MILF is even higher than teen. And a lot of men looking for MILF stuff are into the older/younger dynamic, which often has a d/s component.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 10:44 PM
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I promise you male frequency is even higher. I don’t need a study to know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 10:36 PM
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I think it's uncommon relative to women. Women have far more rape / submissive fantasies than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 10:07 PM
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That study is not the only thing I am relying upon in forming that view. I linked it because you asked me to provide something that showed ~50% of men experienced submissive fantasies and it’s the first thing I found. But I do not take one study as gospel when it comes to this stuff, nor should you. In any event, they’re clearly common in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 09:57 PM
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Roughly equivalent, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 09:36 PM
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You asked me to provide research showing ~50% of men have some sort of submissive fantasy. That’s all I looked for. I googled it and it was the first study that popped up. It was linked in an article that quoted it. You can do your own research but I will warn you again that studies on this stuff are all over the map. It is inherently difficult to measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 08:53 PM
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Fair. The point remains.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 08:30 PM
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What research did you read that showed ~50% of men have some sort of submissive fantasy I am very skeptical of studies on this topic because they tend to be all over the map depending on the methodology. But this one found that 65 percent of women and 53 percent of men report fantasizing about being submissive: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/jsm.12734 Otherwise I’ve just read a lot of books, blogs and articles on human sexuality, which I can recommend if you’re interested. This …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 08:29 PM
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“Lying” is a stretch, it was just an off-handed remark that I didn’t put much thought into. What I actually meant to convey is that for every woman with a rape fantasy is a man with some sort of submissive fantasy. I used cuckolding because it’s an example of an almost exclusively male fantasy and it’s not uncommon, but you’re right, I don’t think it’s as common as rape fantasies are (even just among men). I have come to this conclusion through research and observations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 08:15 PM
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Not cuckolding alone. Combined with other degrading fantasies, easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 08:05 PM
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Rape, pegging, cuckolding, crossdressing, femdom, etc etc. The suggestion that submissive or degrading fantasies are a primarily female phenomenon is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 08:00 PM
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True. I think it’s more common than you think though. For every woman with a rape fantasy there’s a man with a cuckolding one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 07:33 PM
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Less common, probably, but still common. And for women it’s not usually as intense or extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 07:31 PM
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It's fairly common for women to love very degrading sex. It’s common for men too
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 07:24 PM
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I was just gonna say, this is a dangerous path to walk down. The ABDL world is dominated by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 07:13 PM
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I meant it in the same way. Replace “hottest” with “highest SMV” in my comment and my point still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 07:01 PM
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What am I misunderstanding here: But if he’s not the highest SMV guy she’s ever slept with, he will get deadbedroomed
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 06:53 PM
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A woman isn’t gonna dead bedroom you just because you’re not the hottest guy she’s ever fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 06:49 PM
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Depends on the environment. At a popular bar, sure. At Walmart, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 06:36 PM
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Come on, you can’t possibly believe that. I’ve had some awful sex with high SMV men and amazing sex with lower SMV men (not low, but lowER).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 05:56 PM
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Fear of being accused
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 04:49 PM
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Because young adults are stupid sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 04:16 PM
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Consistent access to sex. At least in theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 03:09 PM
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It rings so true though. Brought me back to high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 03:08 PM
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Thank you for the explanation
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 01:43 PM
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I see. Excuse me while I disable it and go on a downvoting rampage to make up for lost time. No one is safe!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 01:38 PM
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Thanks, do you know why I don’t even have the option but apparently other people do? Just curious because I see accusations of downvoting here all the time and it confuses me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 02:07 AM
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You realize other people can downvote your comments right? I’m on the app and downvoting is literally disabled for me. Maybe it’s different on a PC? u/GridRexx you’re a mod right? Can you plz explain
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 01:51 AM
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First it was only men they care about, now it’s also when they’re anonymous? That’s a pretty broad spectrum. I don’t have the ability to downvote in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 01:11 AM
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Only men we care about That’s not true, go to any male-centric Internet forum (TRP included) and you’ll see men warning other men about certain types of women when they haven’t even met each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 11:23 PM
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When weak men are telling women how a guy is bad news for them, he is shielding them and not trying to increase his chances of gaining access to her pussy later on too. Men warn other men about certain types of women in order to shield them, just like women warn other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 10:37 PM
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I’ve honestly heard many more women lament the fact that they settled early and never explored their options than the fact that their husband isn’t the best they’ve ever had. Bad sex is bad sex, good sex is good sex. Even if you’re the only guy she’s ever fucked, it’s not gonna make her enjoy sex with you any more than she would’ve if she‘d had 2 or 12 or 20 partners. I am sure it feels safer to think that’s the case, but it’s really not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 09:32 PM
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Oh I get not wanting to be in that position I just question how much it has to do with partner count. Like my college bf who I was desperately in love with wasn’t the best at the time and my partner count was low at that point. If I’d married him, which I totally would’ve, I wouldn’t have married my “best.” My high school bf was better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 06:21 PM
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I was responding to Atlas and speaking about a general tendency I see around here from men, not you specifically. But from my perspective you are thinking about it in such a weird way. There’s no “best.” There are tiers but I can’t point to a single guy and say “he was the best.” Sex is so variable and guys are memorable for different reasons. I remember Tim for this and John for that but neither is necessarily better than the other. Good sex is good, bad sex is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 06:04 PM
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This idea that young promiscuous women are having the best sex of their lives orgasming on huge alpha dick is pure male fantasy. My slutty friends and I cringe thinking back on most of the sex we had in our more youthful days.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 05:38 PM
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Good luck as a girl when you have a unibrow. See how this works?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 02:26 PM
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Judging by the responses I’ve received you’re right.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 01:16 PM
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Sure, maybe for the first date. But most will find it off-putting if you don’t take her out soon after.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 01:14 PM
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Literally no one is forcing men to pay for dinner
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 01:11 PM
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I am too
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 04:32 AM
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You sound like a blooper saying women don’t care about the man paying for dates or even taking her on a date that costs money. “Just take her to the park or for a hike!”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 04:31 AM
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Nobody cares how much it costs for you to take a woman out on a date
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 04:27 AM
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Men should pay for dates because women spend so much money on their appearance. I mean every time I’ve gone on a first date I’ve gotten a manicure and an eyebrow wax, that’s like $50 right there. It’s only fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 02:05 AM
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Yesss or the one with the middle finger trophy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 01:18 AM
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That’s amazing. My favorite is the one of her making faces in the mirror from the Delicate video.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 12:31 AM
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Can’t wait to recap. I wish I knew how to send a gif via Reddit. She has the best ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 12:14 AM
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It’s actually hilarious how well the lyrics fit and I am not surprised that you of all people had the same immediate thought. Btw when’s Taylor?!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 12:08 AM
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Female. You should play that Avril Lavigne song “Skater Boy” during the date. The lyrics are appropriate: He was a skater boy She said see you later boy He wasn't good enough for her It’ll really set the mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 11:55 PM
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Ooh I like option 3, especially the “badboy skater” part.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 11:31 PM
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I still wanted him to enjoy it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 06:26 PM
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I’ve done it. Not proud of it but I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 06:12 PM
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Oh you meant like enthusiastically fucking? They do that too. Some women are excellent actresses. I think it is one of the reasons men often say a breakup “came out of nowhere.” She’s still putting on a performance in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 06:11 PM
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So why were you arguing otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 06:07 PM
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She’s right. Some women absolutely do fuck men they don’t want to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 04:05 PM
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This. The way men describe lust I honestly don’t think I’ve ever experienced it, even though I have a high sex drive for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 03:53 PM
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Where does it suggest constantly asking for consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 06:45 PM
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Because the majority of women will be turned off by a guy constantly asking for consent. I see this claimed all the time around here with zero evidence. If he’s weird about it, it’s a turn off. If not, it’s pretty neutral. He can still be dominant and passionate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 02:09 PM
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No one promotes constantly asking for consent throughout the entire sexual encounter, especially when the woman literally says “assume you have my blanket consent.” Unless of course you’re engaging in more taboo sex acts like anal or BDSM, then I think anyone would agree that consent for each specific act is necessary. It’s a win for the consent-is-sexy team because she still fucked him, enjoyed it and wanted to see him again. The way some guys here talk about consent, it’s like they think it‘s …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 10:56 PM
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Ah I misunderstood
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 10:42 PM
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Why would you need to verbally ask for consent when she’s been groping you all night and lying naked in your bed? The verbal consent stuff is aimed at people who are not getting clear non-verbal signs that their partner wants it. If she’s groping you, undressing you, getting naked herself - that IS enthusiastic consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 10:40 PM
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I’ve had a couple guys ask “is this ok” when they started unbuttoning my jeans or something which I appreciated because it’s uncomfortable to have to push his hand away when I don’t want it. Plus some guys are just way too aggressive with that stuff, you literally have to spell it out to them like they’re 5 years old, otherwise they keep trying. That is way more off-putting than saying “is this ok?” Another way I’ve been asked for consent is when he’ll be like “should I grab a condom?” Totally n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 10:36 PM
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Yeah I get that not everybody likes it or feels comfortable with it. To each their own. But for many it is a very effective tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 10:29 PM
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Drinking and redditing is a fine line for me. Sometimes I get too honest/personal or I’ll be unnecessarily snarky. It’s the only time I ever delete my own comments lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 10:26 PM
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Yeah you’re totally right. Honestly I drunk-Reddit a lot and rarely have problems writing cohesive sentences, but last night I was in rare form and I guess I erroneously assumed he was on my level
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 10:19 PM
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No I get that. There are just so many other platforms. Or you can create your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 10:16 PM
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No shit Sherlock
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 06:11 PM
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I guess I have trouble understanding because I don’t use Twitter so the idea of it being that big of a deal is odd to me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 05:43 PM
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No they weren’t. They were accusing him of being a creep, rightfully so. She got a lot of backlash for claiming it was assault even though everyone agreed it was creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 05:41 PM
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His career is fine. No one even talks about it anymore except you guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 05:58 AM
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The woman got more shit for it than he did
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 05:58 AM
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She got a ton of backlash for it and he kept his job
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 04:37 AM
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I actually have no idea, I never care about the specific type of whisky. Now I’m about to do late night with friends and drinking red wine 🤷‍♀️ ruh roh Ok I need to get off my phone. Enjoy your night!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 04:12 AM
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What do you mean? There was no accusation of rape
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 04:10 AM
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He was not accused of rape
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 03:58 AM
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How do you write this many paragraphs when you’re drunk? Very impressive
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 03:56 AM
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Started with Pinot Grigio now drinking a whiskey sour
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 03:54 AM
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I’m drunk too 👋
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 03:10 AM
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For a private company? No. It’s a cost benefit analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 03:05 AM
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I just meant don’t do anything she says no to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 03:02 AM
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Uh if she’s says no to you fucking her, licking her...just don’t do those things? Leave? She clearly doesn’t want to have sex with you. I don’t see the issue here
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 02:09 AM
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Very few men I’ve slept with have had big dicks yet almost all have managed to talk dirty to me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 02:06 AM
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Show me a man who has been accused of rape over not verbally asking for consent, and then we can talk
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 02:05 AM
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I genuinely don’t understand what’s so hard to accept about a social media company banning a user who incites publish backlash. Like...duh. Their entire business model is dependent upon public opinion. Oh no! I’ve been banned from Twitter! Big fucking deal. If enough people like you, you’ll be fine. There are other avenues to promote yourself. If not, don’t choose a career that is dependent upon public opinion and then whine about the public not supporting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 01:14 AM
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Seriously. They don’t realize how to use dirty talk as foreplay which to me is the best foreplay ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 01:02 AM
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Again, constantly asking is overkill. No one would say that’s sexy. But she still fucked him and still wanted more so clearly it wasn’t that much of a turn off. My general thoughts on this are that if you’re unsure if she’s into it, ask. If not, don’t worry about it. Like if she’s an enthusiastic participant, clearly enjoying it, reaching for your dick, etc, there’s no need to ask. The verbal consent stuff is aimed at young, inexperienced people anyway. College kids. I honestly don’t know why ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 11:09 PM
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The takeaway here is not that consent isn’t sexy. She fucked him even though he asked for consent multiple times (which is overkill even by most feminist’s standards) AND she wanted to see him again. If anything this story is a win for the consent-is-sexy team.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 10:12 PM
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Yes that’s what I meant. My impression of RPW from what people here have said, and from briefly browsing the sub myself, is that it’s more about obtaining a man’s commitment in the first place. But I 100% understand why anyone - high quality or not - would seek advice as to how to maintain a successful LTR/marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 09:09 PM
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I deleted my previous reply because I think I missed the point of your’s. I understand and agree with you, it’s just that when it comes to attracting men and getting commitment - like the stuff that leads to a relationship - I learned so much more from other influences/personal experience than I did from my parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 08:42 PM
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blushes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 08:34 PM
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This is more a return to tradition, but "asking someone on a date" (even a cheap/free date like going to a park) should be the norm for starting a relationship I see this mentioned around here a lot and it confuses me because going on dates IS the norm from my perspective. How old are you and how do people in your social circle start dating? I’m in my late twenties. Dates weren’t the norm back in college - people would just hang out in their dorm, meet up at parties etc - but that changed after …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 05:31 PM
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My parents never taught me anything about sex and relationships, everything I learned came from my peers, the Internet, media and just generally observing the world around me. But I get that different people pick up on different influences.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 05:19 PM
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It’s called teasing. Girls learn super early in life that when a boy teases you it means he likes you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 04:59 AM
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Cute doesn’t necessarily mean high quality
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 04:44 AM
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Take a look at the top posts on RPW. Most of it is literally “how to be an attractive woman 101.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 04:43 AM
2

Aw thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 11:17 PM
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I am the first to admit I’m pathetic. Not in the same way they are, but I’m pathetic nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 10:59 PM
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Yeah that’s what Atlas said and it makes more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 10:54 PM
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I just visited the sub for the first time and the first thing I see is a post titled “I was surprised at how much men value women cooking for them.” Other top posts include: I just want to be more feminine, how did you do it? Don’t be fat Why hobbies are important Why do young girls not get taught how important youth and looks are? If their standards are that much higher than mine, I’m praying for them. My standards aren’t even that high, nor do I consider myself particularly high value, but how…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 10:51 PM
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I don’t like the word “all,” but I would say most. Side note: I consider it more pathetic for women to seek out self-help than men (when it comes to attracting the opposite sex). Male attraction is so easy to figure out and if you are high quality they come to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 10:33 PM
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High quality women don’t need a self-help forum to obtain an attractive man’s commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 09:59 PM
2

or dealing with men once you had one. This makes way more sense
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 09:33 PM
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So they are low quality
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 09:31 PM
5

Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 08:53 PM
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Yeah I just don’t get why they need a forum to achieve it. Are they low quality women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 08:48 PM
1

What is it that they want? Dominant men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 08:40 PM
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A man being as desirable as he was when he and his partner first met is something that a man should be doing anyway. I personally don’t consider this “dread,” even if Red Pillers call it that I am so entertained by TRP’s tendency to label the most basic relationship advice in edgy terms. What most people would call “putting in effort to be attractive” is branded “dread game.” It sounds so much darker than it actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 08:37 PM
1

By “older” I meant mid-life, but yeah I think you’re right re elderly couples
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 06:01 PM
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To this day it is still shocking for me to see an older couple treat each other with genuine affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 05:29 PM
2

He said they went from FWB to officially dating. This won’t end well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 05:11 PM
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Similarly, people just off a breakup often prefer flings until they stop hurting and can be a real partner. If their life hasn't changed much, they just randomly decided "Okay, I like commitment now," that's shady, but that rarely happens. Yes. It’s bizarre to me that so people seem to think “okay I like monogamy now” is the norm. It is far more common in my experience for people to date around between LTRs. Whether as a rebound or while exploring their options, hoping to find someone worth an L…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 04:13 PM
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Yeah exactly. Many women even brag about how great and frequent their sex life is with a bf/husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 01:21 PM
4

In all seriousness, I think it's probably best to go for someone with similar levels of experience with relationships, because you are more likely to see things eye-to-eye. What do you think? +++
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 12:54 PM
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The study wasn’t measuring partner count, it was measuring the amount of times they had sex. Not much incentive to lie there. Would be interesting to see the responses broken down by relationship status though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 12:49 PM
5

I am exactly the same
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 12:44 PM
2

No the context is a 24/7 dynamic that does go on indefinitely. The person you responded to originally was not talking about women who want to be a sex slave for a weekend, she was talking about the lifestyle types.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 01:40 AM
1

Where the hell do you find this stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 12:19 AM
3

There is no fun in TRP land, only anger and sexual frustration.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 11:26 PM
1

Be more patronizing, I dare you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 11:21 PM
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Everyone is, but it’s a lot harder to replace someone you want to marry than it is to replace someone you want to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 10:51 PM
3

Right it makes complete sense that she would
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 10:35 PM
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I don’t know enough about your relationship to say you took advantage of her, I was just explaining to the person above why that’s often the assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 10:26 PM
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Of course living it out for a short time is different from a 24/7 dynamic, but the context of this discussion is a 24/7 dynamic. These submissive fantasies are probably not remnant of toxic views. Yeah I don’t think they necessarily are. I mean, men have them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 09:04 PM
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My point was that submissive fantasies, and therefore actions, are not "all just damaged girls" like she claimed. Fantasies do not equal actions. There is a very meaningful difference between a woman with a rape fantasy and a woman who leaves her front door wide open at night hoping an intruder comes along. Similarly someone might fantasize about living as a man’s 24/7 slave, but those who actually seek it out have issues. The person above was referring to those who actually seek it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 08:50 PM
2

Then you were arguing with an imaginary person, because the person you responded to did not imply that submissive fantasies = damaged. She literally said “women can fantasize about something without wanting it.”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 08:37 PM
3

Big difference between having submissive fantasies and being in a 24/7 BDSM relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 08:31 PM
4

Hmm to me there is a huge difference. I’ve always known I’m replaceable in terms of fucking, like I know any guy I’ve dated would’ve happily fucked anyone of my physical caliber. But it takes way more than that to sustain a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 08:26 PM
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Why do you think only “stupid children with no agency” can be taken advantage of? Adults get taken advantage of all the time, especially when they have mental issues. It is perfectly reasonable to assume a young woman who seeks out a 24/7 BDSM relationship with an older man has mental issues. How anyone would assume otherwise is baffling to me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 08:18 PM
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Enough for her to marry or fuck? Is what I’m asking
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 07:43 PM
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Like, any dude who had read the stuff and looked a bit like me would have been able to sweep her straight into bed. Nothing special about me at all Can you elaborate on this? Are you only talking about physical/sexual stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 06:09 PM
2

That seems logical in theory until you realize how many people are in prison and how many fat people there are - and the numbers keep rising. Maybe it’s not an effective approach...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 12:25 PM
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There are tons of non-Chad guys of above-average height.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 11:47 PM
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OP talks like there are all these skinny women gaining weight because they heard fat women can love themselves anyway. It’s absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 11:08 PM
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Men have all the incentive to shame those women so they can get more attractive women out of it. Explain how this works? Do you think shaming fat women motivates them to lose weight? Because I guarantee you the more likely outcome is that it motivates them to stuff their face in shame, then make an Instagram post about how they are beautiful at any size and fuck the haters!!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 11:03 PM
2

Mostly the former actually
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 10:45 PM
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No it’s really an argument for just letting people live (or die) as they please. I smoked for a few years and every time someone would say “you know that’s bad for you right?” it didn’t make me want to stop smoking, it made me want to take a deep drag and then blow smoke in their stupid face. I imagine fat people feel similarly about being told how fat and unattractive they are. They already know and they will react with defiance when reminded, especially by a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 09:01 PM
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Yes. It only seems backwards in this day and age because modern medicine mitigates the risks, but if you think about back in the day before birth control, paternity tests etc, it makes complete sense that female promiscuity was discouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 01:46 PM
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because they bear the children so it seems irresponsible. Or the dudes are just jelly he has to share her which means he can't be the only one spreading his genes and doesn't know if he's the dad This is the reason. It comes down to biology. Women bear more risks from sex so it’s considered irresponsible, and men have paternal anxiety. I really think it’s that simple and everything else (religious teachings, social norms, gender roles etc) stems from those basic instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 01:36 PM
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Yeah perhaps it’s the New Yorker + sorority girl in me. Innocence-destroyers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 12:32 PM
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Fair, but how many women have only had sex in a relationship? I’m sure they exist but I don’t personally know any, even among my non-slutty friends. They’ve all still had the occasional fling that didn’t go anywhere or the rebound guy between relationships. Also I didn’t realize we were talking about scenarios in which she used to give it away “for free” but then makes him wait until he commits.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 12:07 PM
2

Want a medal?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 11:20 AM
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Almost every man marries a woman someone else got for free. What’s the amount that qualifies as “everyone else got for free”?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 05:47 AM
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No, horny women are not automatically sluts, but sluts are horny women. I agree it is hard to pin down. In my mind, 20 partners by your early-to-mid twenties is certifiably slutty. But then I see people talking about women who have had 50-100 partners by the age of 30 and I suddenly feel like a prude. Then some would say 10 is the limit. Meanwhile we all use the same term (slut) to describe each woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 04:42 AM
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What I meant was that she won’t save it for vacation. She’s too horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 04:28 AM
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I’m literally the definition of a rebound girl
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 02:49 AM
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But like how do you know she fucked 50+ guys in a couple years
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 02:49 AM
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Well what criminal evidence showed she was a major slut? I’m on the edge of my seat here
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 02:24 AM
2

Sluts don’t just have casual sex on vacation, they do it locally and frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 02:22 AM
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Ah, Conca, there goes my chances if you ever get divorced 😩
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 01:47 AM
2

What’s the maximum n count you would LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 01:26 AM
3

How old were you when you got married? I have a feeling it’s more common for young people to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 01:06 AM
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Relationships are far more fulfilling for me, sexually and emotionally. I have used casual sex as a distraction between relationships because I’ve always had a high sex drive and lots of options, but it is never as fulfilling. The best sex I’ve ever had was with serious partners. You learn each other’s bodies, you are so comfortable with each other, there is mutual love and affection along with the physical attraction. It’s the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 12:50 AM
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Was your mom a sex worker?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 12:30 AM
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I’ve never asked for a number and never been asked for mine. There are ways to get a sense of someone’s experience without asking for a specific number. Talk to them about their experiences, what they’ve tried, how they feel about casual sex, what issues they’ve encountered with past partners and so on. Be open-minded and accepting. Play “Never Have I Ever” and ask for details on the responses. Etc etc. Edit: on second thought one bf asked but only after I warned him about my past promiscuity. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 12:15 AM
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Out of pure curiosity, how do you know that your mom and sister have fucked so many guys? I understand knowing they’ve slept around, but 50 partners over the course of a few years?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 11:52 PM
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What's your explanation for slut shaming? Paternity-related anxiety. Female promiscuity threatens a man’s confidence in his paternity. That and the fact that women accept far more risk when they have sex (pregnancy, infection, injury etc). In light of our biological differences it’s really not surprising that we have evolved to discourage female promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 11:17 PM
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I always thought it was assumed by TRP that women who ride the cock carousel are fucking above-average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 10:51 PM
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Why does the attractiveness of the men matter with respect to whether or not it qualifies as a “cock carousel”?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 10:43 PM
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Then he should have specified because that doesn’t describe the typical slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 10:08 PM
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But we’re specifically talking about sluts, i.e., women with high levels of promiscuity. The guy above said sluts are denigrated because they get pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 09:58 PM
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In what sense do you think she’s an extreme outlier? In my experience it’s way more common for sluts to become a booty call than it is to be pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 09:41 PM
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It won’t?! 🙄 By former slut I obviously meant I no longer engage in slutty behavior, not that I’m some sort of born-again virgin. I don’t care if I’m technically still a slut or not. People have such different interpretations of the term anyway, I even hesitate to use it to describe myself because in former threads I’ve seen people define it as a woman who has had like 50-100 partners, fucks random guys in bars, has one-night stands etc. I still think enough folks around here would consider me a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 08:07 PM
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As a former slut I’ve never been “pumped and dumped.” I’ve definitely been disappointed by a guy who didn’t want a relationship (who hasn’t though?), but they always at least wanted more sex. Even more guys wanted a relationship or at least wanted to explore the option and I was the one who didn’t. This idea that women who have sex are always pining for a relationship is mistaken, especially when we are talking about slutty women. Of all women they are the most likely to have sex without wanting…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 07:38 PM
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The attitude of the general public towards those who are born into wealth is pretty negative. You mean the attitude of poor people. Again, it’s either envy or it’s directed towards rich assholes. Are you at least conceding that sexually promiscuous men deserve praise, while sexually promiscuous women do not? I am conceding that I understand why promiscuous men receive praise while promiscuous women do not. I personally don’t think either is inherently worthy of praise.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 07:20 PM
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How would you feel about trust fund baby who owns a mansion and drives a sports car? Jealous. I’d be lying if I said I wouldn’t take advantage of a trust fund. I would not think less of anyone just for doing what everyone else would do. How would you feel about a doctor who was born poor, but now lives in a mansion and drives a sports car as well because he worked hard? I would praise him. Doesn’t mean I’d denigrate a doctor who was born wealthy, unless he only graduated because his father donat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 06:49 PM
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This explains why men get praised for sleeping around, it does not explain why women are denigrated for it. Unless you think it makes sense to denigrate people for obtaining something just because it was relatively easy for them to obtain. Edit to add: I actually do think “slut shaming” has an easy explanation, but this isn’t it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 06:33 PM
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Who says race is not a factor?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 03:59 AM
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I was asked for my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 10:52 PM
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Like I said, I don’t think ANYONE should call the cops for a faceslap unless it caused actual damage. Man or woman. But I admit I’d roll my eyes harder at the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 10:26 PM
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I’m sorry but I would roll my eyes so hard at a man who called the cops because his gf slapped him in the face
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 10:20 PM
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He was a bf. I don’t know what you mean by “attempt to stigmatize his behavior.”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 09:41 PM
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I mean no one should be slapping people, it’s just not necessarily that big of a deal. Break up with them if it’s a pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 09:01 PM
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We were talking about face-slapping
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 08:48 PM
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Most women I know who have experienced something like that have not pressed charges. Take a look at DV court records - the allegations are almost always more serious than a one-off slap or shove.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 08:44 PM
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No but a guy has shoved me onto the ground which I consider worse and I didn’t call the cops. I wasn’t injured, he expressed immediate remorse and I didn’t feel like I was in danger. It also wasn’t a pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 08:34 PM
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When she lies...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 08:28 PM
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I think the law should be equal. A slap is a slap is a slap. I just don’t think people should press charges for it unless it causes actual damage. Most people don’t press charges for a slap in the face - man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 08:09 PM
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I wouldn’t press charges on a man for slapping me in the face unless he hit me so hard that he knocked out my teeth or something. Do you honestly think women who file DV charges are doing so over a slap to the face
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 07:53 PM
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I judge things by the extent of damage inflicted (or attempted). A slap in the face is not usually serious. A glass thrown at the face is a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 07:50 PM
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Do you honestly think a slap in the face should be a chargeable offense? I’ve been slapped by a female friend, it’s really not that big of a deal. I’d never even think of pressing charges.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 07:40 PM
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What an ironic response coming from someone who just made a post citing nothing but his own personal experience
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 05:10 PM
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Get off tumblr dude
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 10:40 PM
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Those articles are about “toxic” aspects of sports CULTURE.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 04:37 PM
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Ah I understand. That’s an interesting caveat here - whether a promiscuous phase qualifies someone as a promiscuous person. I’m personally not sure. If you had asked me two years ago I would’ve said “absolutely not, my promiscuous phase was just that - a phase,” but then last year when I broke up with my bf of 4 years (in which I was 100% monogamous) I slipped right back into it. So I don’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 11:42 PM
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Are you implying over 10 = promiscuous?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 11:23 PM
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As you are saying football players (the American football) are being toxic because they are violent aggressive during the game. What a cheap argument dude. Obviously context matters. I am speaking as someone who doesn’t even give a shit about “toxic” this or that, but you’re making it way too easy for them when you say shit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 11:02 PM
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Every guy I’ve ever dated has initiated that exclusivity talk. Same. It’s weird to see men here say women usually initiate it. My experience is the opposite - if the woman feels the need to initiate it, that’s generally not a good sign. My friends do the same re mocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 10:45 PM
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Big difference between chatting all day and never initiating texts
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 09:42 PM
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There’s also a lot of the opposite, which you are apparently just ignoring...?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 05:15 PM
1

Yeah I heard the Miley cover before I heard the original
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 05:14 PM
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Not this girl. I always leave the ball in his court.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 04:26 PM
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But that would’ve been so much more interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 03:45 PM
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The way this is phrased makes it seem like you’re gonna ditch the single mom for a married mom
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 03:30 PM
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He’s in his 70s so I doubt it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 03:18 PM
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Typical black-and-white thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 03:16 PM
5

You sound like my dad lol. I love texting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 02:53 PM
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I also think some guys enjoy the companionship that goes along with sex as long as they don’t have to commit to her. They enjoy her company enough to go out on dates, watch movies, cuddle etc, they just don’t want a relationship with her (or perhaps with anyone). They’re not lying and they didn’t change their minds, but they are leading her on if they’re not upfront with their intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 02:26 PM
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He acts like he’s interested in more than just sex. He does romantic things, texts all the time, cuddles her, expresses interest in her life, introduces her to his friends, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 01:47 PM
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Is that supposed to make me reconsider? Because it’s pretty much worst case scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 05:56 PM
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Now, OTOH, if a guy straight up mentioned it randomly, yeah that might be a turn-off or at least kind of make me think why. This is what gave me pause about the “relatively inexperienced” thing. The fact that he felt the need to ANNOUNCE it. You have to be pretty damn inexperienced in order to feel the need to warn her about it, so it carries the same concerns as being a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 05:47 PM
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You haven’t been single since your early twenties right? I feel like this is so dependent on age. If you suddenly found yourself single now, would your answer be the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 05:38 PM
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Right. It’s impossible for me to imagine this man. Any reason I can think of for his lack of experience would preclude me from liking him that much in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 03:14 PM
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What...how...who...what? I’ve never heard of such a thing. I hope you bring a flask.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 06:15 PM
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I am making the pretty obvious argument that if a woman is part of that minority and enjoys dating older men she obviously doesn't find the idea creepy. It’s not obvious because like I said I was that woman and I was fully aware it was creepy. That was part of the appeal, the taboo. I liked that he was a creepy older man (and so did he). Sorry if I wasn’t clear on that before. I obviously don’t speak for all young women who date significantly older men, but I know I’m not an outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 05:16 PM
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I mean if we were to take a survey of 18-22 year old girls and ask them if they get creeped out when middle aged men hit on them do you really think the vast majority wouldn’t say yes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 04:50 PM
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My point was that I was one of those women and I knew it was creepy at the time. That’s why I didn’t tell anyone. And I was not mentally stable, which is the norm for women that age who seek out middle-aged men. They’re either looking for money or have mental issues. Older men realize this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 04:42 PM
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I honestly have never heard it used that way. The word itself is predatory. A cougar is literally a predator. As for men not minding, wouldn't you say that the women who choose to date older men don't mind either? It's outsiders who make it a thing. Young women get hit on by older men or see their friends date them. Or they try it for themselves and realize everything everyone always warned them about was true. I dated a 42 year old when I was 21 and I still think it’s creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 04:11 PM
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I mean think about the word “cougar,” it has very predatory connotations. The reason we don’t hear about it as much is because it’s not as common and men don’t seem to mind. Women don’t have much of a reason to complain about it since they don’t experience it and don’t have any insight into the dynamic, and I personally never hear men call it creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 03:42 PM
1

Please don’t call me hun
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 04:35 AM
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The fact that she is “old enough to take a dick” doesn’t make it not creepy for the dick to belong to a 40 year old
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/18 09:20 PM
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The women who only do casual sex on vacations (and such) are those who have enough experience to realize that that’s the only way they can do it without getting attached
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/18 06:18 PM
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Liars
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/18 06:04 PM
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If the nurse knows better, and she can't force her point for risk of being 'repulsive' (not just 'its not one of the things she could do that would make me find her attractive', actively repulsive), and she is conditioned to both think that is repulsive and really not want to be repulsive, the patient dies I’m not sure the fact that it’s considered repulsive is the problem, I think the problem is that she’d be so concerned with being attractive at work, to the extent that she’d let a patient die…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/18 05:57 PM
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Say what? That’s the type of shit you’re talking about when you say PMS? Thats way over the line. She’s just a bitch, and he’s a doormat if he stays with her after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/18 05:43 PM
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Interesting perspective, thanks. When I was in college I dabbled in BDSM and definitely lowered my physical standards in order to do so, which I thought was normal but maybe not. I wasn’t really part of the “scene” though, I just made a profile on some website and met a couple guys through it. That’s the type of thing I was talking about above but I guess it’s harder for men to find someone that way, most probably have to get more involved in the scene in order to meet women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/18 04:49 PM
5

Yes it is
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/18 03:32 PM
1

I’ve always kinda thought men who struggle with women should consider joining the BDSM scene (dom role, obviously). I feel like women in that scene are less concerned about looks as long as you can play the role well. What do you think of that? I’m just not sure how realistic it is for a guy who’s not naturally dominant to play the role well. And even if he could, would he even enjoy it enough to make it worth it for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/18 01:53 PM
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If their peers are going around talking about how disgusting and gross and predatory and rapey and vile it is that some 35-year-old dude is hitting on some 20-year-old, then that 20-year-old probably is not going to want to give a 35-year-old the time of day. If that many 20 year olds think it’s gross for a 35 year old guy to hit on a 20 year old, isn’t it more likely that she’s not going to date him because SHE thinks it’s gross? Why should we assume she thinks differently from her peers?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/18 01:40 PM
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Is she attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 10:42 PM
2

Amen
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 02:25 AM
9

I am basically always drunk or high here. I think Reddit should have a little icon next to usernames to indicate when you’re drunk. Just common courtesy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 12:18 AM
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But she still has a sex drive? Do you think it’s more of an emotional/bonding thing than a physical pleasure thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 12:16 AM
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Most of us don’t but it still affects us. We know guys watch it and we know what it looks like. I’ve never watched porn by myself, the only stuff I’ve seen has been shown to me by men, but I can say it’s definitely affected me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/18 11:32 PM
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Upping and leave without speaking about it is bad an unnecessary. It’s bizarre that the only options in your mind are giving an ultimatum or not speaking about it. You can communicate your needs and try to seek a solution without giving an ultimatum. If that doesn’t work, have some self-respect and GTFO. Or seek therapy if you’re that invested. But an ultimatum is not gonna work. Would you want someone to have sex with you just so you won’t leave them? You said it yourself: why would you stay wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/18 10:28 PM
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Exactly. Just leave. Assuming you’ve communicated how important it is, it shouldn’t come as a surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/18 10:07 PM
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I think ultimatums ARE pretty much universally bad but I don’t think anyone should be in a relationship indefinitely without sex (assuming they want it). I don’t understand why you think the former implies the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/18 09:23 PM
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Does she masturbate and if so have you seen how she does it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/18 08:56 PM
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It's hilarious to me that so many bloops are implying that men should be in relationships indefinitely without sex Which bloops are saying that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/18 05:46 PM
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No sorry it was a joke (a bad one apparently) because I am a skinny woman with low self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/18 01:13 PM
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Don’t bring me into this
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/18 01:09 PM
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I get where you’re coming from if they say “it wasn’t my fault.” But saying “it just happened” is not necessarily intended to minimize culpability. Often it genuinely does just happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 06:46 PM
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Why do you assume it was premeditated
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 06:37 PM
5

You don’t think many people cheat because they are too cowardly to break up with their SO?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 06:30 PM
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I feel like it emphasizes the bad. Like “I was too much of a coward to break up with him so I hurt him very badly instead.” How is that minimizing the bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 06:29 PM
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Lol I wish! I was in Montauk this weekend though. Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 06:27 PM
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None of those examples paint her in a good light
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 06:17 PM
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No shit. I’m asking you to show me where it says freezing up = rape
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 01:55 PM
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Where is this law
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/18 07:44 PM
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Wait, you mean women aren’t a monolithic entity?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 06:15 PM
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Link me to this law about freezing up? Didn’t realize this was a matter of law...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 01:33 PM
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Male caretaker
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 01:31 PM
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If an actress had slept in Weinstein’s bed multiple times and then complained that he came onto her, I would have zero sympathy for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 06:24 PM
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Not OP but I agree with all of his points and would say I also don’t have sympathy for women who “freeze” and don’t say no. I’ve even been that woman and unless you’re under the threat of physical violence or some other type of coercion, it’s laughable to call it rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 06:05 PM
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He’s wrong... Infants are most likely to be killed by their mother during the first week of life, but thereafter are more likely to be killed by a male Studies suggest that male caretakers (fathers or mothers’ intimate partners), often acting impulsively, are the perpetrators of the majority of infant homicides. https://www.childtrends.org/indicators/infant-homicide
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 06:00 PM
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So you'd have no sympathy with women who went back to Weinstein time and time again? Which women kept going back to him time and time again? Sleeping in his bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 05:53 PM
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Most men and women are perfectly capable of working together safely and productively.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/18 03:00 PM
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Women complain about men all the time who can't take NO for an answer - even when it comes to a kiss. If he tries to kiss her and she rejects him and he accepts the rejection, he IS taking no for an answer. Not even the feminazis would consider this an example of rape culture. If he keeps trying to kiss her after she rejects him that’s a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/18 01:59 PM
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That’s crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/18 01:43 PM
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Do you honestly believe a guy who tries to KISS a woman after a date - even if she rejects him - would be considered an example of “rape culture”?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/18 01:16 PM
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Flounder is an orbiter 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 01:18 AM
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I love how passionately you are debating the Little Mermaid right now 👊
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 01:17 AM
6

Modern medicine doesn’t suddenly override evolutionary instincts
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 07:19 PM
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It’s not oversharing if people want to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 05:47 PM
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I don’t need to, it’s just a fun place to do it. I can’t quite capture the same atmosphere in my living room, though I do own a disco ball... Also when I used to go clubbing I was into EDM and would often go to see specific DJs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 04:25 PM
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Dancing/music/atmosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 04:17 PM
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What a weird response. Just because she thinks clubs are fun doesn’t mean she needs to go to a club to have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 04:01 PM
2

You’ve never been to a bar?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 03:17 PM
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Ok? Doesn’t mean you want to fuck/date/marry them...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 02:06 PM
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Most do not date or bang men who are young enough to be their children, even those who could. That’s my whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 02:05 PM
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Good looking people are pleasing to the eyes. Straight women check out other women all the time too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 02:02 PM
1

Okey dokey
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 01:53 PM
1

50 year old female celebrities
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 01:52 PM
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Jesus, do people really not understand the concept of sharing your lives with your friends via photos/videos? And seeing their lives? It’s a fun, effective way to stay connected to people. Men don’t just comment on hot women’s photos, they share their own photos and follow their friends...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 12:20 AM
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Ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 09:44 PM
1

This OP is about serious relationships/marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 08:41 PM
1

Only one woman on that list actually married a younger man
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 08:10 PM
1

Really? I can only think of a few and most of them were short-term flings. There aren’t many older woman/younger man marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 06:39 PM
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The vast majority don’t, even though they could
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 01:09 AM
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the older woman knows she has no other options You really think this is true? That a 50 year old woman would choose to be with a 25 year old guy if only she had the option?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 12:28 AM
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For the same reason the vast majority of middle-aged women don’t desire younger men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 12:25 AM
3

The ones who don’t want to date so-called career women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 09:14 PM
3

Seriously. I almost feel bad that there aren’t more extreme feminists around here. Some of these guys are chomping at the fucking bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 07:01 PM
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Hmm that’s not how I interpreted her comment
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 06:28 PM
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I've never heard of or seen a man rejecting a female lawyer because she makes too much. You’re thinking about it wrong. It’s not just about money. Consider the qualities that come to mind when you think of a high-powered female lawyer - those are the qualities that repel these men, not the simple fact that she makes more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 06:18 PM
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Obviously there are patterns and similarities among people’s life experiences, but there are also differences, and it’s just as futile to deny the latter as it is to deny the former. To say “all males with female friends are taking the nice guy approach,” just because that’s the approach you’ve taken, is ridiculous. Unsurprisingly, the only people who deny that genuinely platonic male-female friendships exist are those who have never experienced it themselves. It makes complete sense to me why t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 02:14 PM
1

Less than 5 would concern me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 03:12 PM
3

I’ve always thought the best measure of a truly beautiful woman is if she’s still beautiful with a shaved head. Some genuinely are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 12:53 AM
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I’m sure some of them become highER quality than they were before, I have trouble believing most become high quality enough to be successful with this strategy. If your goal is sex then kicking her out is a risky move, much riskier than nudging her until she gives in (which often works, though I don’t condone it). I will say OP’s strategy is the more ethical option, which is a pleasant surprise coming from TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 05:18 PM
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So TRP is promoting a strategy that can absolutely work if you are high-quality enough or rich and famous like Aziz. Do you not see the painful irony here
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 05:00 PM
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Right but I can’t imagine kicking her out is more effective unless you’re like a 10/10. I don’t believe it for a second.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 04:48 PM
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I guess I was thinking about it wrong, I thought it involved more convincing. For example I perceived that Aziz Ansari story to be an example of LMR done very poorly. He’s an almost satirical example (lol @ the claw) but I thought the concept was the same: keep trying. I’ve experienced the Aziz-type of “LMR” on multiple occasions which is probably where my misconception came from, but I’ve never experienced what you describe in the OP. Kicking her out because she doesn’t want to have sex? I‘ve b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 04:30 PM
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PPD often uses "casual sex" as a synonym for "one night stand" when in reality a ONS is only one type of casual sex. FWB can be described as casual sex for example. This one bugs me because in my experience FWB-type casual sex is more common than ONS. Also more common is the type of casual sex in which you’re dating and potentially interested in a relationship, but haven’t committed yet. I have high N friends who have literally never had a ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 01:53 PM
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If it’s clearly an empty box or something, then sure. But if it’s something that seems like I might have trouble lifting/carrying on my own (even if I technically could), I consider it a thoughtful gesture, not patronizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 02:08 PM
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I don’t consider that specific gesture to be patronizing. I have weak arms, that’s just a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 12:41 AM
1

Try to think about it from a woman’s perspective though, you have guys who do nice things for you and guys who don’t...who do you think you’ll be more attracted to? Is it really that hard to understand why I prefer a man who offers to lift a heavy box for me versus a man who just watches me struggle with it...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 12:04 AM
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I suppose to make this argument coherent though I would need to draw a line separating promiscuous sex and casual sex. This is an important distinction, there’s a broad spectrum between a woman who has the occasional casual fling and a woman who fucks guys she just met in the bathroom of the club. The former is normal behavior for high quality women, the latter not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 02:12 PM
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We were in the 100s to the left of the stage, 10 rows back, good seats but honestly I could’ve enjoyed it from the worst seat in the house. The lights and the special effects were so cool and the sound quality was good throughout the venue. I can't believe you guys got Never Grow Up on the B stage 😭😭😭 RIP me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 02:34 AM
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I literally can’t stop re-watching the videos I took
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 01:46 AM
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SO MUCH FUN. Never wanted it to end. I’m jealous you still have it to look forward to!!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 09:52 PM
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That makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 02:14 AM
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I get so confused about this stuff, I never know if I’m supposed to be answering “do you consider this man objectively attractive?” or “do you experience sexual desire for this man?” The former I can determine based on a photo, the latter not at all. Men seem to experience more conflation between the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 01:43 AM
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A few are single but have no problem getting women, they are not the type to take the “nice guy” approach. Most I’ve known for 5+ years, some since high school, and they’ve never expressed romantic interest in me. Maybe they are all secretly in love with me but is that really the most rational assumption? I’d love to think I’m that much of a catch, but come on, I’m 28 and single lol. Also I’ve experienced the nice guy approach and I’m pretty good at recognizing it by now. I've been that guy. It’…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 11:44 PM
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I’ve always had genuinely platonic male friends. Not a ton, but enough to assure me you are wrong. I know you’ll say “nah you just don’t realize it,” but I’ll save you the effort because you’re not gonna convince me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 07:25 PM
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Where are all these men who calmly accept rejection after investing so much time in a woman? I’ve never met any. Most guys who take the friends-first approach aren’t assholes, I have sympathy for them and I don’t think they deserve to be mocked, but they definitely don’t just accept a no. They try to convince you. They’ll mention all the things they’ve done for you, or you did for them, as if you‘re absurd for believing these are things “friends” do. They make you feel like a fool.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 06:48 PM
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I agree with you, MRP advice is on point. More married men should heed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 04:10 PM
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But just sending some girl on fakebook a picture of my penis? Why would she ever care? I think for many it’s exhibitionism. Like when flashers show their dicks to strangers they aren’t using it as a pickup strategy or expecting reciprocation - they enjoy the act of exposing themselves in and of itself. I think a lot of guys who send random dick pics have similar motivations.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 01:09 PM
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I’m pretty solidly purple, but there are definitely blues here who would agree that the concept of rape culture is overblown. Doesn’t mean they don’t think rape is a real problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 12:49 AM
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Right. It is odd for us non-reds to be the ones making this argument haha
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 10:57 PM
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In my 4 years of Greek life there were a few instances of alleged rape-by-frat-star that I was aware of. At least one appeared to be a matter of the girl being too drunk to consent, which I do think is a legitimate issue but wasn’t a huge concern among my friends. We were party girls; blackout sex happened from time to time and we didn’t call it rape, we called it a mistake. Another guy who was accused was a notorious predator, we knew to stay away from him long before he was accused. We did not…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 10:32 PM
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I think it’s overblown
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 06:48 PM
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Even if you accept that rape culture exists, it’s still a small percentage of frat guys who are raping women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 06:24 PM
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It’s because of their looks + social skills. The party atmosphere also helps enormously. But I dispute your assertion that their form of misogyny is comparable to the TRP sub. Perhaps behind closed doors it is, but I spent all 4 years of college basically living in a frat house and I didn’t witness that much misogyny besides sexist jokes. Many of them seemed to adore women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 06:19 PM
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Buncha crazies
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 04:46 PM
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