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LaLaJoy/r/seduction09/03/13 10:00 PM
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The point is that the discussion will come up at some point. Well, no, it depends entirely on the relationship. I'm all for honesty if it does come up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 06:19 AM
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Curb the personal jabs. I'm responding to: "There is no way that a married couple hasn't had conversations where a slut ought to have said something." A "slut" ought to have said "something"? Said like "slut" is an objective label as opposed to a slur, and "something" is as specific as can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 06:17 AM
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Actually, the difference between "moral obligation" and "wise decision" is anything but semantics. And that brings us back to the question of why sexual history brings up all sorts of moral judgments about a person, but only if that person is female. I haven't heard a valid reason yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 06:11 AM
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I'd sure as hell prefer a guy who hasn't slept around, but it's no judgment on his character if he has. I just think innocence is sexy. That still doesn't answer the question. And the mileage thing makes no sense. Vaginas don't suddenly stop working after they've been penetrated a certain number of times. What I'm trying to get at is this - deceit is wrong. A woman who tries to trick a man into thinking she's more sexually innocent than she is is wrong. BUT why is it such a horrible betrayal for…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 06:08 AM
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I've been "supporting" sex positivity and coaxing their promiscuity through that. Otherwise known as being deceitful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 06:00 AM
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There's no case where it's acceptable to lie to someone in order to get them to have sex with you. That's pretty heinous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 05:56 AM
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HL = high libido; LL = low libido
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 05:55 AM
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I missed it! What was the comment/question?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 05:54 AM
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I didn't say you shouldn't voice your opinion; I'm saying the exact opposite. In another thread I said I don't like body hair on my partner. But that doesn't mean I'd treat someone like a lesser human being because they choose not to get rid of their body hair. That's what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 05:53 AM
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But what sort of conversations would those be? Furthermore, she may feel as though her partner does not care about or want to hear about her sexual history. Some men don't. Just like some women care about the number of people a man's slept with, and some women don't. It's really difficult to make a case for having a double standard here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 10:58 PM
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I'm all for sharing information about past sexual partners. It just seems that some people (men and women alike) don't want to discuss it, or don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 10:55 PM
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Sure, it's important to some men. But a man's sexual past is important to some women. So men have a moral obligation to bring up their sexual pasts with their female partners? Is it wrong if they don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 10:54 PM
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And that's a smart thing to do. But you still never answered my question: So if a woman has a slutty past, she has a moral obligation to bring that up to a male partner? Why is that? This is in the case that the man DOES NOT bring it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 10:52 PM
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Can you give some examples of this? I can. Give me a few moments. So if his view on having kids is incompatible with your views, and you find out well into your marriage, you wouldn't be upset, even if you weren't morally obligated to find out his view? I would never commit to spend the rest of my life with someone if we'd never discussed our views on having children together. That's stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 10:35 PM
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My argument was that on /r/TheBluePill sub, you'll find more people who agree with that original statement than those who disagree. I'm sure the views you outlined are out there, but I don't think they're as common as many antifeminists would have you believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 10:26 PM
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Okay, but we're not debating 'HAES,' and it's not a community that I'm a part of, so I don't see that that's relevant here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 10:21 PM
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Don't get snarky. Either offer support for your arguments, or don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 10:18 PM
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Of course. I don't give a fuck so I don't lie. I have no problem with that. The problem I have is when women are lambasted for not being forthcoming when men are encouraged to be secretive. Are you telling me, that if a man is looking at you as a long term relationship prospect you're not going to say, 'well by the way, I don't want kids?' If my partner never brings up having kids, I have no moral obligation to assume it's something they care about. It doesn't mean it's a wise or unwise decision…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 10:15 PM
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A human society is a group of people involved in persistent interpersonal relationships, or a large social grouping sharing the same geographical or social territory, typically subject to the same political authority and dominant cultural expectations. Human societies are characterized by patterns of relationships (social relations) between individuals who share a distinctive culture and institutions; a given society may be described as the sum total of such relationships among its constituent m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 10:11 PM
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What is HAES? And see my edit to my previous comment; I'm not sure if that changes anything for you or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 10:09 PM
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So does the man have the same obligation to tell a woman about his sexual history? Or any other thing that not all women are okay with? You have no moral obligation to tell me if you want kids unless we discuss having kids together.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 10:04 PM
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I frequent /r/TheRedPill, /r/TheBluePill, /r/PurplePillDebate, /r/feminism, and /r/askfeminists and I can tell you that I've ONLY ever seen that belief as a straw man in TRP. EDIT: I think I know where you may be confused - we disagree with shaming women for having body hair. There is nothing wrong with viewing such women as unattractive, only with teasing or berating a woman for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 10:03 PM
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That's why I don't believe that rape can't occur without physical force. If Person A tries to have sex with Person B, B says they want it to stop, and A continues, then that's non-consensual sex - a.k.a sexual assault. The only case in which A would be innocent if B gave no indication of wanting to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 09:56 PM
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My understanding is that LMR is when both partners really want to have sex but one feels ashamed about wanting it. Both partners feel good afterwards. Rape is when a person doesn't want to have sex but is pressured, coerced, or forced into it by having their desires ignored. One partner feels good after, while the other feels taken advantage of. EDIT: To clarify slightly: With LMR, the active partner is telling the other that it is okay and safe to follow his/her sexual desires. With rape, the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 09:45 PM
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So you're saying there can be no female alphas because society is naturally patriarchal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 09:41 PM
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So if a woman has a slutty past, she has a moral obligation to bring that up to a male partner? Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 09:32 PM
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It doesn't mean anything to me. Redpillers are the ones who use it to describe someone possessing certain qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 09:31 PM
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Why can't women be alpha?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 09:23 PM
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RedPillers, take note: THIS is representative of the BluePull way of thinking. Not any of those ridiculous straw men you see as top posts in TRP all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 09:21 PM
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Men aren't insecure because Chad stuck his dick in her various holes a bunch of times and he might have a big swinging dick, it's because she lied and is deceitful. What about the woman who is open about her sexual history? What is the objection to her, then? EDIT: Also, what if she never lied because he never asked? Does the man still have a right to feel deceived if he was only just assuming she'd never done lots of kinky shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 09:11 PM
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I've never been attracted to PUA or red pill tactics, even before I knew what they were. Now it's just more entertaining seeing a guy try to use them, because I'm thinking, "I know exactly where you read about this..."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 05:39 PM
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It's not the pure notion of wanting to dominate a woman, though. If that were the case, he'd be saying it to her, not his buddy in a bar. Unless that's part of his sexual fantasy and she's on board. In that case, he can knock himself out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 06:10 AM
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Sure, he can, too. There are plenty of desperate - though maybe not the most attractive - women out there. And prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 06:08 AM
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Curious, how do you explain all the HL women in r/deadbedrooms, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 05:41 AM
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Sexual frustration only refers to here the feeling of defeat, anger, or frustration that comes with the inability to find a sexual partner. I've sure as hell experienced this, as a horny single girl with no good sexual prospects for a year and a half after starting college. A good part of it was due to not wanting to sleep around. It was an awful time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 05:39 AM
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What is the point of your post? Can this be taken any other way besides negative? And what does his appearance convey? I don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 05:34 AM
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Same with RP tactics, it doesn't work once, but damn near 99% of the time. Then why don't they work with me or any women I know? I'm genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 05:27 AM
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Haha, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 04:44 AM
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That is not a feminist viewpoint. Actually, I've never seen this viewpoint anywhere except when it's being used as a straw man against "feminism."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 03:11 AM
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If AWALT means that all women display behaviours associated with women, to some degree or another ... Then AMALT is the exact same. Except there are no behaviors that apply to every member of one sex and don't apply to any members of the other sex. Do you have any in mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 03:07 AM
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Over 100 comments and not one person has provided a halfway decent argument to support shaming other people's bodies. I would say there's your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 03:04 AM
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Wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 03:01 AM
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Hot as shit. Repulsive. And before I get attacked for having my opinions on what I find attractive in a man criticized as being "wrong" or "lying," I am ONLY expressing how I feel about being sexual with a guy who looks like each man in question. I am NOT saying that man number 2 is unattractive by anyone's standards other than my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 09:02 PM
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You realize that repeating the same faulty, hyperbolic reasoning over and over again does not make it any more true? You didn't answer why the person in question would have to be a male feminist in order to commit suicide over one or more women not finding a certain man attractive, or why that would be the cause of it in the first place. Attractiveness is not objective, contrary to popular RP belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 08:54 PM
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Again, why would that make a male feminist kill himself?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 12:14 AM
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OP's whole premise is ridiculous. S/he's acting like being unattractive is something shameful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 12:07 AM
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True that!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 12:00 AM
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I think RPers' claims that GLO is a handsome man illustrates a point I made earlier - RPers are out of touch with the type of man that is most attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 12:00 AM
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I dislike hairy men personally, so he grosses me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 11:58 PM
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Why would being a male feminist make someone prone to committing suicide over someone's opinion on the attractiveness of a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 11:58 PM
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I have no problem with that whatsoever. But the OP is implying that feminists secretly know that rape on campuses is not a big problem and are making a big hoopla about it; RAINN would disagree. Though if a person were to see society as the base cause of most rapes, their opinion is no less valid due to RAINN arguing otherwise, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 11:56 PM
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No, that's not what the article says. It acknowledges the existence of "rape culture" ("it is helpful to point out the systemic barriers to addressing the problem [of sexual violence]"), but stresses that the only way to solve it is to remove sexual predators from the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 10:14 PM
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As far as I know, feminists aren't responsible for the term "rape epidemic," media outlets are. You set up a straw man then cherry-picked the part of the article that addresses "rape culture." Nowhere in the article does RAINN even mention feminism, let alone imply that feminists are wrong or overreacting to in regards to rape. Do you even agree with what the article is saying? RAINN is urging campuses to educate their communities about consent laws and bystander intervention, to investigate all…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 10:04 PM
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I don't follow your line of thinking. Because I think this man is ugly, I want to kill all male feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 09:44 PM
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For example, they know that "yes means yes" is utterly unfeasible, and they know that there is no "rape epidemic" on college campuses. How did you come to this conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 06:52 PM
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He is physically unappealing. It was nothing to do with his views. I think RP men view a certain type of man as attractive, and it's not always in line with what women generally find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 06:48 PM
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I'd love to know how you think rape culture and a patriarchy are lies perpetuated by feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 07:06 PM
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We also live in a society that benefits caucasians and heterosexuals and restricts the rights of other ethnicities and non-heterosexuals. Who would've thought!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 05:55 PM
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Again, I'm not asking for opinion pieces, I'm asking for peer-reviewed articles and studies. I don't think feminists are intentionally lying or suppressing data. Even a quick look at the "feminism" Wikipedia page debunks the idea that feminism is anti-male.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 05:52 PM
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What work are men abandoning in this current climate and why? Should women only be caretakers and refrain from labor and extraneous achievements altogether? Is there a reason why white men have been superior throughout history?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 05:45 PM
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You're saying women are only good for sex, and men will only work hard and be innovative if sex is the reward, right? And telling women they have value outside of their sex organs and should have equal opportunity in academia and the workplace will lead to the decline of western civilization?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 05:34 PM
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So men shouldn't know that they're superior because then they wouldn't be motivated by sex? Or is it that women would stop rewarding hard-working men with sex if they knew they were inferior?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 05:30 PM
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So why shouldn't male supremacy be expressed in law, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 05:21 PM
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I'm not; those are the claims I've seen in TRP regarding feminism, and they are almost always completely unsubstantiated. Yes, please do. I don't believe what you've listed is an accurate portrayal of modern feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 05:19 PM
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I asked if this is a subject you've studied academically. I'm already aware of the claims TRP makes regarding feminism, so I'm asking for unbiased information.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 05:11 PM
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So because men are superior to women, they should be given preference when trying to promote male supremacy or shaming women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 05:09 PM
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Yes, and RPers think such a sexist society is justified because it benefits men and is highly restrictive towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 04:47 PM
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Ah, so you agree with my claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 04:45 PM
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Of course, but it's not a subject I've pursued in an academic manner. If you have, please enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 04:44 PM
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"All men on some level believe in the idea of "male equality" or more commonly "male supremacy/special status" on some level. The male imperative is ingrained in men's DNA. It is their nature to shame women into behaving in a way congruent with the male imperative." See, we can make unbacked claims, too!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 04:31 PM
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Would you mind if I ask how old you are and what your social circle looks like?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 06:29 AM
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You called her your best friend, and it doesn't seem like she treats you like a good friend, so I was concerned for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 06:15 AM
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It doesn't sound like a genuine friendship to me. Friendships are about enjoying each other's good company, not ulterior motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 05:23 PM
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I'm under the impression that high male SMV means having the qualities that turn women on; an arrogant, self-serving personality being one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 05:14 PM
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I disagree that this is something that the majority of women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 05:12 PM
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Respecting others is not a switch you can turn on or off. You can fake it, but then it wouldn't be genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:28 AM
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u/weirdlemonade81 said it best: emotionally open, happy, smiley, no chips on his shoulder, no attempts to maintain frame or come across as overtly 'alpha' I don't find his physical appearance or philosophy attractive, though, so he's not quite my type.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:24 AM
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Haven't decided if/when I want children. All I know is I don't want one now or at any point in the near future.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:58 AM
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No, they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:53 AM
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But then you can retroactively withdraw your consent, too! Problem solved! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:41 AM
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Feminists don't believe "women should be more like men"; in fact, some would find that statement offensive because it implies that there's something wrong with being a woman. Feminism is about women having the same choices and opportunities as man, as opposed to being limited by their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:38 AM
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What about being a stay-at-home dad is shameful?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:34 AM
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What an AlphaTM.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:30 AM
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What are you talking about? Is your view of the world so skewed that you think Fancypantser's comment would upset anyone at all, even those depraved "bluepers"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:29 AM
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I agree, and it's unfortunate. Very few men are okay with the total loss of gender roles, too. And far more accepting of the ones that constrain women as opposed to those that constrain themselves. People can be shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:24 AM
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Both are sex under false pretenses, which I believe should be criminal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:15 AM
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You don't say.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:13 AM
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The supposed attractiveness of a dark triad personality. That women don't know what they're attracted to and that those who say they aren't attracted to TRP's "high SMV" traits (height, fitness, wealth, power, status, promiscuity, arrogance, unpredictability, dominance) are lying or wrong. That every woman's ideal man is hyper masculine, basically. That's so inaccurate and seeing a group of men who refuse or are unable to have intelligent conversations with women label that an undeniable truth i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:08 AM
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How convenient of you to forget the whole dark triad personality thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 12:56 AM
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I disagree heavily with TRP's opinions on what makes a man "high SMV" and "low SMV." I also don't think most women would continue dating a man they don't find sexually attractive, and I don't think most women are attracted to what TRP defines as an alpha male. I also don't think women, subconsciously or otherwise, group men into these two categories and use them for money and sex, respectively. In my opinion, the entire premise of TRP is inaccurate and based on a small subset of the human popula…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 02:43 PM
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Do you honestly expect RPers to own up to this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 07:44 AM
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So is TRP the inverse, where anything written by a woman is false unless it aligns with their exact worldview? And I'm not sure how familiar you are with Elite Daily, but it publishes sexist articles written by men all the time, which seems to contradict your "vag shield" hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 12:54 AM
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I don't see why marriage should exist, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:23 AM
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All this "proves" is that mainstream society doesn't disagree too much with the tenets of TRP, despite what TRP protests.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:20 AM
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Because of society continually treating heterosexual relationships as men exchanging resources for sex, and vice versa. It's absolutely messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 10:40 PM
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You realize TRP repeatedly and emphatically calls itself a "safe space for men," don't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 10:36 PM
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That's a lot like a stupid person asking how to get into Harvard without cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 02:25 AM
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No, this isn't true at all. Sure, there are guys I would not date or sleep with. Then there are guys who I would like to have casual sex with, but not be exclusive with. These guys are neither players nor jerks, and sometimes they do want a committed relationship. I'm picky about who I sleep with, but I'm even pickier about who I would be exclusive with. I would only be in a relationship with someone after we've already slept together and who I find incredibly attractive and incredibly kind (kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 02:08 AM
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You're really good at this whole debating thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 02:23 AM
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I'm not going to say whether each instance should be considered "rape", but I'll give my opinion on which ones cases violate someone's ability to give consent and should therefore be illegal: 1) Yes - you are fully aware she would not have consented to sex had you not lied. 2) Yes - if she insisted you wear a condom, it can be safely assumed she would object to you continuing to have sex with her once the condom has broken. 3) Yes - you would not have had unprotected sex with her had she not cla…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 02:47 AM
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How in the world did I "prove this is a fair and equal world"? Nothing could be further from the truth. What are you arguing? That women are more likely to be judged for having sex? No one is negating that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 02:30 AM
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I think it's pretty obvious we want a society that doesn't limit others based on gender identity. And what is this "feminine world" you speak of?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 06:50 PM
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It's the illogical thinking and blatant hypocrisy that bother me, not someone's sexual preferences. RP assumes they get mocked constantly because the other side resents them, a fantasy which merely subjects them to further ridicule.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 06:47 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 06:04 PM
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Umm, I prefer men who aren't promiscuous. So a promiscuous man looking for a chaste woman is highly hypocritical to me. Also, the double standard doesn't refer to how one "pleasures" the opposite sex, only that sex occurred. So I don't see how your argument is in any way valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 05:59 PM
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It's also incredibly hard to prove rape, but that doesn't mean it should be made legal. EDIT: I think you misread my first response to you. I was agreeing that it is hard to prove sexual misconduct. But that's up to the justice system.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 10:59 PM
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Who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 10:50 PM
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I'm saying that it should (if it isn't already - I know in some districts it is) be a crime to lie about contraceptive use in the hopes of impregnating yourself or your partner against the other person's will.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 10:47 PM
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It can be, indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 10:44 PM
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A) It's a fantastic thing for men to be able to be responsible for birth control. B) Lying about contraceptive use to your partner should always be a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 10:40 PM
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He fervently tries to stroke his ego by imagining himself rejecting a girl way out of his league because she's supposedly too slutty for him. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 10:36 PM
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I don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 10:30 PM
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Hahahahahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 06:01 PM
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No person is justified in lying to get sex or a relationship from another person, period. More women should be honest about their sexual pasts, but it's a tad difficult to advocate that when other groups claim that non-chaste women are all worthless cum dumpsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 03:06 AM
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Poor you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 03:02 AM
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Neither? You realize that concepts like BP and RP really don't exist outside of a couple subreddits.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 03:01 AM
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I DO NOT CARE what someone chooses to do with their own life so long as they're not harming another. I think RPers are the only ones here who do, since I keep seeing so many posts that assume BPers are SO AGAINST prostitution, sexual preferences, age differences in relationships, etc., etc. I'm pretty sure most of us could not give a flying fuck about those things and that they only keep getting brought up because of projection from the RP side, who loves to attack promiscuous women over and ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 02:59 AM
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Yet they bitch and moan about all men supposedly being considered rapists and attack feminism for supposedly contributing to that mindset. This is in large part a hyper reaction to an incredibly stifling, politically correct society where the feelings of certain groups of people, especially women, are enshrined as sacred and untouchable. This is where the fundamental disagreement between RP and BP thinkers is, in my opinion - the view that society is full of SJWs crusading for the rights of marg…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 02:48 AM
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Oh, well in that case I think it's fucking hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 11:25 PM
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I'd say I'm pretty lucky in that I'm only attracted to kind men, and it's very easy for me to spot disingenuity. Any sort of mean-spirited, egocentric, or arrogant behavior is such an immediate turnoff that I've never seen any sort of negative signs from guys I've considered forming a relationship with, because I know they're kind-hearted people. It's sad, but I feel like a lot of people either can't spot someone who's likely to cheat, or just decide to date them regardless. I really can't under…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 11:23 PM
2

Seems like an inane topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 11:17 PM
1

As a non-RP woman, sexual infidelity would bother me exponentially more than emotional infidelity, because being exclusive and having sex with someone else is deliberate, hypocritical, and selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 11:16 PM
1

I honestly can't tell if you're being extremely sarcastic or if you're extremely "RPW."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 11:13 PM
7

Don't date someone prone to "cheating behavior" in the first place? The idea that 99.99% of women will cheat unless controlled by some alpha male is utterly ridiculous. The kind of woman who would never cheat would also probably never date an "RP" man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 11:08 PM
1

Nice thought experiment. However, it hinges on both men achieving the same position at the same company. What if the wealthy man become CEO of the company, while the poor man becomes the janitor? Then who would we say has worked harder? What if they both become financial analysts, but one at a very successful company, and another at a nearly bankrupt company? Your analogy ignores the fact that straight men seek sex with women, and straight women seek sex with men. So to make the thought experime…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 01:16 AM
1

Women being unable to ever take responsibility for their actions is quite the groundbreaking conclusion. I'm looking forward to the press release.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 10:54 PM
1

It is clear that women cannot be responsible for morality, so that is what we do, it is a man's responsibility be moral in the relationship. Where in the world do you get backing for this conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 10:35 PM
1

...Yes. And men who killed their male competitors were also more likely to reproduce. Not sure how any of that is relevant today, when we have a legal system to prevent citizens from doing heinous things to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 10:33 PM
2

Where are you getting your knowledge of the feminist viewpoint from, if I may ask? It's been feminists who said "Teach men not to rape" True. I agree that people need to be taught to respect others' physical boundaries, but that women need to be taught just as much as men do. who are constantly spreading the notion that it's sexist for men to find woman A more attractive than woman B I've heard this brought up a lot on TRP, but never concrete examples of someone accusing another of sexism becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 10:15 PM
1

These qualities seem to be, almost universally, the top three qualities that women look for in men. I disagree. should one assume that the women who primarily look for these qualities in men are essentially just objectifying men to nothing more than a profession or an income? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 07:15 PM
2

The mistake you make is by thinking that if someone holds these views, they're a feminist. All of what you've said is very true, and your beliefs are shared with mainstream feminists. What you've said sounds anti-RP, too, so I'm curious as to whether or not you agree with that philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 07:12 PM
1

Are you, as a man, able to express what attracts you to a woman? Because I've told you what attracts me to a man, but you dismissed it because you apparently know what I want better than I do. Oh, so you don't have any experience as a man who has steady success with women. None at all. Yet you deem yourself qualified to give advice. You tell me if TRP's advice to women is worth anything or not. I just told you that I'm not competent to judge it. By your own admission, TRP is NOT qualified to giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/14 03:56 PM
2

I hold that the opinions of women as to what attracts men is far more valuable than vice versa. So moments ago you said this type of advice is "literally worthless," but now it's merely "far less valuable"? I don't have this problem, as I don't actively seek commitment. I'd much prefer a new fuck buddy every month than a new boyfriend. Furthermore, I seek out these casual sexual relationships with men who are not "alpha." Since I am not interested in "alphas," I don't give a flying fuck about wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 08:01 PM
2

So TRP holds the stance that their opinions on what attracts men are literally worthless, yet they continue giving them anyway? I fully believe you should watch what a person does, as opposed to what they say. I'm woefully sorry we'll never get the chance to meet face-to-face so I can introduce you every men I've ever dated or been interested in, none of whom exhibit the traits that TRP says women find attractive. Perhaps these men could even tell you what made them successful in their relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 07:41 PM
3

That's funny, since TRP feels more than qualified to tell women how to attract men. Furthermore, I didn't give any advice at all. I just said that many women are not attracted to "alpha" behavior, myself included. But I never told men how they should behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 07:23 PM
2

I'm female, and I have steady success with men and with relationships. I like men who are compassionate, genuine, friendly, good-looking, and who have high sex drives.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 06:35 AM
3

The concept of "shit tests" is highly overblown, in my opinion. TRP overestimates the number of women who give them, and the extent to which behaving "alpha" is attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 08:44 PM
2

I disagree with this. There are some universal traits that can be applied to high quality women: feminine, low N count/chaste, modest, polite, respectful, etc That's your opinion, and I (along with anyone who agrees with egalitarian) find it to be an outdated one from blatantly misogynistic times. What if his daughter is naturally not very feminine? What if his son is not very masculine? Are you telling me it's better to pressure people to fit societal molds than let them be what makes them happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 04:38 PM
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I think his entire goal is to turn his daughter into a "high quality woman" that a "high quality man" will want to marry. The problem is that he's deciding what traits will decide whether she's "high value" or not and going so far as to dictate her life's purpose, assuming that she'll even want to marry an "alpha." That is sickeningly controlling. If his daughter grows up agreeing with his life philosophies, she may be happy. If she disagrees, she's going to be utterly miserable, and I don't kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 09:04 AM
1

Many women feel uncomfortable when a man is pressuring them to have sex. TRP itself teaches women their strength is in their ability to "submit" herself to strong men, so this makes perfect sense. Furthermore, RPers seek out sex with women (often aggressively so) who they will judge as sluts not worthy of respect the moment they give in to temptation. You don't see the contradiction here?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 08:27 AM
2

I agree they have more responsibility and risks. If men and women were treated more equally, wouldn't that help solve this problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 08:17 AM
2

I call myself a feminist because I believe people should have equal rights regardless of sex, and that, compared to men, women are continually disadvantaged politically, economically, and socially. That is not to say I care about men's troubles any less; I'm equally bothered by the disadvantages that men face. But men overall do have more power in history and in modern society.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 01:23 PM
2

Oh, gotcha. Didn't see your purple pill flair!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 01:07 PM
2

So TRP doesn't say worse things than that on a daily basis?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 12:46 PM
2

You had to sift through a subreddit with tens of thousands of members and who knows how many millions of posts to find the examples you found. You disregarded posts that didn't make the point you wanted to make. You are, right here in this thread, disregarding a post because it doesn't fit your agenda. So each one of the 50,000 subscribers to a specific philosophy is unique, but the 3.5 billion women in the world are exactly the same and most of the "RP examples" AREN'T handpicked. Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 03:29 AM
1

20 bucks says she could spell "experience," though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/14 10:39 PM
1

Sure. Your article is poorly written. I see insult after insult about women and the female nature, yet little that actually addresses the issue at hand. The meat of your article is this: Use an anti-pickup line when she’s egotistical, offended, or a bitch; you then list some examples of rude comments a woman might make. Other than that, your article is full of biased claims and sweeping generalizations that you don’t back up. You speak with a false sense of authority, like the reader is supposed…
/r/seduction18/08/13 10:13 AM
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This is misogynistic as fuck. I don't think you should be writing articles.
/r/seduction18/08/13 06:54 AM
1

It is. Unfortunately, it seems as though all Seddit lines/responses are geared towards a very specific subset of women with the idea that any woman who responds negatively is just someone with whom you've not "built" enough attraction.
/r/seduction18/08/13 06:45 AM
1

Would you elaborate, please? As a girl, this list makes me cringe so fucking hard. "Keep me in line"? Seriously?
/r/seduction17/08/13 09:16 AM
4

Where's the link to that article about not fucking around with girls who have boyfriends? It has some very good points I think you should read.
/r/seduction17/08/13 09:11 AM
1

It seems extreme to discount an entire race. What about a certain race would make a girl of that race an "instant no-no"?
/r/seduction17/08/13 09:08 AM
4

I would like it better if a guy said this to me as opposed to OP's line, just throwing that out there. Maybe it's just the type of guys I go for.
/r/seduction17/08/13 09:03 AM
4

I'm female and I agree. Don't ever use a line assuming it will work on all or even most girls just because Seddit tells you it will. Use at your own risk.
/r/seduction17/08/13 09:01 AM
0

You saw one comment that you took to either be trolling or shit starting, so you think an entire subreddit should go fuck themselves? And I can't look up anything because you gave me hardly information. But that's fine, because I was referring more to the fact that you think misandry is rampant on Reddit when you will find many more comments/attitudes that are sexist towards women on Reddit and the Internet as a whole. That doesn't mean that men shouldn't work towards equality in areas where the…
/r/MensRights01/08/13 02:45 AM
0

You seem to make a lot of statements you can't back up. Still waiting on that link to that thread, by the way.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 01:32 AM
1

The kind of feminist that accepts that domestic violence, sexual violence, child abuse, paedophillia etc are about equally prolific between the genders is a rare thing indeed. Most feminists I know are like this. Seriously, where are these feminists that you speak of? I know they exist, but I have never met or personally interacted with one. If Reddit were female-dominated, it wouldn't surprise me that there were more misandry than misogyny, but as it is I definitely see more misogyny. I could j…
/r/MensRights21/07/13 05:13 AM
1

What do you consider feminism that you think a feminist wouldn't like this article? I'll bet it would undoubtedly get positive response if posted on TwoX, and I'm sure most of the women there would consider themselves feminists. Do you disagree?
/r/MensRights20/07/13 01:59 PM
0

I have never heard anyone argue that rape occurs without sexual assault. This site doesn't either, as it defines rape at the beginning: Acquaintance assault involves coercive sexual activities that occur against a person's will by means of force, violence, duress, or fear of bodily injury. You seem to be confused about the three stages mentioned and how they apply to the dating world. I strongly recommend watching this Ted talk (it's only 16 min). It's about domestic violence, not rape, but it e…
/r/MensRights20/07/13 01:45 PM
2

I'm American and under 21... I don't know.
/r/seduction21/06/13 12:06 PM
0

Right, it's just interesting that I've come across so many seduction methods that just make my toes curl, and I know I'm far from the only person who feels that way. I have to wonder if people are glossing over rejections or if they're only targeting a specific type of person.
/r/seduction20/06/13 09:25 PM
0

Whenever I say a routine sounds terrible, I hear that I just need to hear it in person or it just needs to be presented well and I'll like it. I know full well how it's meant to be presented; that's not the issue. So many "routines" are immediate turnoffs for me, but the people endorsing them swear they'll build attraction with the vast majority of girls. So either I'm wired differently than 99.99% of the female population (unlikely) or those people aren't recalling their experiences accurately.
/r/seduction20/06/13 09:05 PM
12

The entire ring routine is incredibly cringeworthy. If a guy tried that on me I'd for sure blow him off.
/r/seduction19/06/13 04:09 PM
1

That's weird. I only really blow off guys (read: politely end a conversation almost immediately) when they're really not my type, but that has nothing to do with how they start the conversation. I've talked to many guys for longer than 5 minutes without being interested in them romantically or sexually.
/r/seduction21/05/13 02:15 AM
1

I asked above, but do you define being blown off as a girl refusing to talk to you completely or a girl who does but is not interested in you?
/r/seduction21/05/13 12:59 AM
1

Define being shut down. Is it a girl refusing to talk to you completely, or a girl not being interested in you?
/r/seduction21/05/13 12:55 AM
1

What does the girl say if she's not interested? Or is every woman you meet two drinks from sleeping with you? Furthermore, if a girl is interested, does it help your case that you use this line? Would the same girl reject you if you just came up and said hello instead?
/r/seduction20/05/13 09:40 AM
2

I can't speak for every woman (and neither can you), but that is not at all true for me. Why would a guy need to use an "opener" if the girl actually likes him for who he is?
/r/seduction20/05/13 09:21 AM
2

FWIW I'm a single girl and I completely agree with her. And there's no need for her to get mass-downvoted. Are female opinions that unwanted when they disagree with the Seddit hivemind?
/r/seduction20/05/13 09:16 AM
4

It sounds so corny to me. But a lot of stuff on this sub does.
/r/seduction20/05/13 09:11 AM
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You're pretty shitty at seduction is this accurately describes the women you get. The vast majority of women will not like you if you act like this.
/r/seduction17/05/13 04:45 PM
1

Thank you.
/r/TheRedPill22/04/13 10:05 PM
-1

They find his physical appearance attractive, not his personality. Quite obvious.
/r/TheRedPill22/04/13 10:01 PM
1

Ah, putting what we learned on Seddit into practice, I see!
/r/seduction26/03/13 09:42 AM
7

Can't argue there.
/r/seduction25/03/13 09:47 PM
16

Do you always insult your dates so much in your blog posts? If I had been your date, I think I would have had a pretty bad time with you that night. I get that you're trying to be funny, confident, whatever, but to me you honestly just sound douchey.
/r/seduction25/03/13 09:24 AM
1

I do get where you're coming from. The word "creepy" has a lot of definitions, though, so if any of those would apply to someone's impression of you, then they would be justified in using the word. You were saying you get frustrated because your awkwardness causes girls to feel uncomfortable around you. I have the same problem around groups of people, so I understand how much it sucks.
/r/seduction21/03/13 12:57 AM
2

Someone saying he/she just wants to be friends generally means they're not attracted to you, though.
/r/seduction18/03/13 10:29 PM
0

If I just told I guy I'm not interested in him, the last thing I want is for him to remind me that he wants to have sex with me. That IS creepy. If a guy told me he wasn't interested in me and I proceeded to talk about how wet he made me or that I will probably end up sleeping with him anyway, that would be creepy on my part. But how would you define "creepy"? Saying "that weird janitor in HS was a creeper" doesn't define anything.
/r/seduction18/03/13 10:27 PM
2

Fair enough. That makes sense to me, it just sounds like you have very strong feelings for her. I'm talking more about someone who I'm just getting to know.
/r/seduction18/03/13 06:20 AM
2

I see that, but I think it's fine because I can get a general idea of what you're trying to say. You made a joke objectifying women to your male friends, correct? And you're trying to say you are being honest, but I'm saying that you need to recognize that you're lacking in tact, and that will most definitely turn girls off.
/r/seduction18/03/13 02:53 AM
2

I hope you don't take this the wrong way because it's not my intent to offend at all, but do you have any mental disabilities? Or is English not your first language, perhaps? I can't really understand what you're writing, but from what I do understand, you are gravely mistaking tactlessness for honesty.
/r/seduction18/03/13 02:44 AM
1

All right, the thing that would be most likely to change my mind in this situation would be for a guy to accept that I want to be friends and actually treat me LIKE A FRIEND. Not to get all butthurt when I don't return his feelings of attraction. If he genuinely likes me, he should like me as a person and want to continue our friendship. Sometimes I am mildly attracted to a guy but not enough to want to start a relationship with him or to start hooking up. But having a good attitude and good per…
/r/seduction18/03/13 01:50 AM
0

And it doesn't matter how confident and funny you're trying to be, you can still come across as creepy.
/r/seduction18/03/13 01:47 AM
3

Don't say it if you have no idea what you're saying. If a guy said this to me, I would absolutely ask him what he meant. Maybe say something similar, but don't use a canned line like this.
/r/seduction18/03/13 01:33 AM
1

"but I will not more forward until both of us are ready, willing, and able." What is this supposed to mean, exactly?
/r/seduction18/03/13 01:31 AM
0

All of these are rude. The second two are rude and very creepy.
/r/seduction18/03/13 01:30 AM
3

Ppl like me for my personality and honesty. Girls won't. Can you elaborate?
/r/seduction18/03/13 01:28 AM
-1

This is so canned. Maybe you have success with it, but I'd much prefer somebody just tell me how old they are when I ask.
/r/seduction09/03/13 09:43 PM
2

You're a twisted asshole if you have hopes for your child to be a particular gender? Seriously!?
/r/MensRights23/02/13 05:43 AM
3

This is a portion taken from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. I strongly recommend you read the entire chapter on domestic abuse. The most commonly asked question about victims of domestic violence is "Why do they stay?" Family, friends, coworkers, and community professionals who try to understand the reasons why a victim of domestic violence has not left the abusive partner often feel perplexed and frustrated. Some victims of domestic violence do leave their violent partners wh…
/r/MensRights22/02/13 12:17 AM
7

"He can easily just walk away"?? That's the advice you give victims of domestic abuse?
/r/MensRights21/02/13 09:11 PM
1

I agree. I just get excited when there are other people here who also really don't like the lingo. Of course he should feel free to use whatever phrases he chooses. :)
/r/seduction19/02/13 07:59 PM
5

THANK you. It's such a freaking turn-off. It's one of the things that makes a guy sound really immature to me.
/r/seduction19/02/13 03:35 AM
1

I really dislike it when a guy I'm not interested comes up and starts grinding on me. It's fine if I'm interested, but there's no way I can know that if I don't even get a look at his face first.
/r/seduction19/02/13 03:34 AM
1

Sure as hell doesn't apply to me nor any friends that I can think of. I genuinely feel bad for you if these are the kinds of women you find yourself around.
/r/seduction31/01/13 08:04 PM
0

Yes. I know girls who have dated guys shorter than them.
/r/seduction31/01/13 07:22 AM
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The only thing women love more than height is fame. Fuck that! How shallow do you think we all are? And where are you getting this idea that the NUMBER ONE PRIORITY for women is height??
/r/seduction31/01/13 05:00 AM
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When they start throwing the term "Nazi" around, you might as well end the conversation. For whatever reason, extreme emotions, temporary insanity, trolling, you are not dealing with someone capable of having a rational communication with you. Couldn't have said it better.
/r/MensRights23/01/13 04:48 AM
3

He says that the perpetrators of sexual violence are most frequently men. Assuming this is accurate, it's okay to state it, but it should not be used to trivialize the matter of female-on-male rape. If this is inaccurate, please enlighten me.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 07:35 AM
0

She supported eugenics, murder, and infanticide? Please elaborate. I really can't take this post seriously until you give us a lot more information.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 01:16 AM
1

I'm a girl, and I'm as guy-crazy as you are girl-crazy. I think it's normal, but I'm with you in that I want to be able to focus on other things without thinking about guys all the time.
/r/seduction06/01/13 08:50 AM
2

You’re welcome, though it seems other subredditors don’t appreciate my input. Unfortunately conveying emotion through text is a gift only writers are blessed with. Everyone reads with their own inner monologue. I know. I understand that you’re trying to present yourself as a cool, confident person by using lines that would be cheesy if a less confident man used them. In my opinion, there is no faster way to turn me off from a social interaction with you. I may be in the minority, but I actually …
/r/seduction09/12/12 08:51 AM
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Oh my God, I would hate it if a guy said any of these things to me. Yuck.
/r/seduction04/12/12 09:59 PM
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