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I'm being pretty clear, I think you're being obtuse. You're saying traditional american (I assume) gender roles should be normal but those by default mean that people are not who they are but have to adhere to the role that they're assigned at birth based on their genitals.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 02:26 PM
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You claim the issue is non-traditional gender roles which means people don't get a choice. Get your subjugated wife if you want but that has nothing to do with the article from what I can see.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 02:04 PM
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Lol. I'll ignore the fact that we have a very different view on gender roles since I believe women should get a choice, not be forced to depend on a man but I will inform you that your culture isn't the only in the world. After ww2 things needed to be rebuilt and in a lot of Europe that's why women work. We already worked for a loooong time before that on farms, which was basically all my country was before ww1. It's wasn't "feminism" that gave women the wild idea that we matter, we were utilise…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 01:40 PM
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To a point. More importantly, it's not what any partner should tolerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 01:39 PM
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They put in some effort before unloading on to the woman or in my case, one lived with his parents (that's normal for people in their 20s in slovenia) and the other lived in a tiny room in London, which was maintained fine, because it was just one tiny room. In London every affordable place is a dump anyway so I couldn't tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 01:38 PM
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My ex's mom, when we was 24, would clean the entire kitchen after him when he made a huge mess and would put sunscreen on him before he left. He destroyed a hoover because he used it to clean milk. He didn't clean his shit marks in the toilet. He made no decisions even when pressed and whined about me in front of his friends that I was bossy. These things are just about basic self-respect. The mom enabled him of course but for fuck sake, he was a grown man. I still have issues with sex because I…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 01:33 PM
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I just notice that people from anglo countries, who seem to "rule" reddit, are way less self-critical in general. Support seems to often mean cheerleading. So I find that to be a much bigger difference from what I'm used to that I notice in all subs. The common theme is how much narcisism there is. Men seem to be more obsessed with the idea that they can do anything and fall for motivational and self-help bs while women tend to blame others (although their complaints are usually valid). In both …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 12:25 PM
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I'm a feminist and I always say that physically capable women of the appropriate age should be drafted just like men. It's not really that big of an issue because a war is way way way less likely than all the crap I already had to endure because of being a woman. If this will help focus on real life issues more, I wouldn't care. Thing is, even when I dabbled in politics, when men were using this as a red herring and I said to includi it in our program, we didn't find any laws about drafting only…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 11:10 AM
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You guys do understand that different countries have different cultures right? Has no one noticed that a lot of women from ex soviet countries unfortunately see themselves as sexual objects (online brides and such)? So how is it surprising that there is general gender inequality? It is true though, we are not yet treated equally probably anywhere. Women still get the short end of the stick in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 11:05 AM
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Dragonball is pretty sick though
/r/RedPillWomen14/01/21 12:42 PM
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Yes. It's not a sure thing that it's an issue but it's a red flag imo.
/r/RedPillWomen14/01/21 12:41 PM
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Sure, all I'm saying is until it's normalised and accessible to women there's not much to be done withouth just shifting the burden on to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 01:13 PM
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Lol you can't just say something is irrelevant because you don't want to take it in to account. It sure as hell is relevant that a lot of woman would very much struggle with the idea of getting an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 02:03 PM
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You can't comoare that. So if people really want this, they should come up with a solution that actually makes us equal in this. To achieve that you should first be fighting for abortion accessibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:09 PM
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Well I could agree if abortion was completely normal, safe and accesible. But it's mostly not. So a guy saying naah or a woman getting an abortion, especially in countries where it's stigmatised is not equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:06 PM
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But they would be wrong because aborting a piece of tissue is not the same as abandoning a living being with emotions that has no choice but to live with your decision. I support men and women being equal in this but all I see is "solutions" that shift all the burden on to women and it's damaging for future children. That's not equality. If anyone ever comes up with a solution that makes us equal, I will support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 01:49 PM
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🤦‍♀️ are you being obtuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 01:45 PM
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Lol I will only address your calling bull. While I get people lie on reddit and there is nothing I can do to convince you, nor does it matter. My best friend is a psychologist and I am an animal psychologist, so I have a good understaning of psychology in general. We talk endlessly about psychology, clinical as well because I love learning about it. It's kind of weird that you would think people wouldn't talk about this. Apart from that I up until a few days ago, was in a small political party w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 01:43 PM
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But in mqny countries they still do it. A lot. Shame of no shame. The father should fight for his child's wellbeing. It's extremely selfish to have a child and then abandon it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:36 PM
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Point is, we all benefit from other people's kids. Men are not the only ones without kids you know. I don't want them and I won't have them. I'm still happy other people choose to have them and it's in everyone's best interest that they get the best life possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:29 PM
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Yes, just a regular dick is great. There's a reason why they evolved to that size. They fit nicely.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:07 PM
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That of course women will be more afraid for our safety. Men can whine about aggressive women all they want but at the end of they day, the threat is real for us. We end up getting killed and hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:04 PM
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You still need people who you will pay. Money is not magic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:00 PM
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I know a lot of psychologists who use this as well. Psychology is ever evolving and there are many schools of it. The DSM is the official manual but it's not the be all and end all of psychology. It's also used for diagnosis while when talking about broader aspects of psychology people don't limit themselves to this. Nor should they.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 11:57 AM
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Quirty?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 11:52 AM
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A man would just opt out, leaving the woman to deal with the harsh consiquences. It's especially problematic since abortion is not easily accessible in every country plus it's still stigmatised.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 11:34 AM
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I would be for it if anyone came uo with a solution that would not put women in a disadvantage and would just make the situation equal. Because the financial, emotional and physical burden is all on the woman if men can simply opt-out. I can already imagine situations where this would be abused and lead to even more children in bad situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 11:32 AM
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But it's not about understanding women because it's completely wrong. It's bizzare theories that some men make up without ever listening to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 11:22 AM
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Lol what? xD that sounds like internet rational logic 101
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:48 PM
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Lol no. It's hard to find a non creepy attractive guy you want to actually be with. It's not about who other men find good enough
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:45 PM
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https://psychcentral.com/news/2017/05/22/explaining-narcissism-as-personality-trait-and-disorder/120896.html
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:44 PM
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I don't see what that has to do with anything
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:41 PM
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Yes, we do. Stop telling us what we like, think, want, feel... I don't know how much women want sex, would want it if we were socialised the same... nor does it matter. I'm talking about the fact that anyone can get sex with someone they're not attracted to yet many men in this sub are angry at women for not sleeping with unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:39 PM
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Wtf js wrong with you. Judging by this comment, you're the only one to blame for not getting women. Eww.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:36 PM
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Nope. I hate big dick. It's just in the way because it can really hurt. It's hard to completely relax because all it takes is one wrong move and ouch.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:34 PM
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Lol no. Why would I do that? I don't care about false advertising in itself, I care if a guy wastes my time by lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:29 PM
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I don't agree. I have friend who likes big dick but allthe rest of us don't no matter the skill. You just have to be too careful, can't do as many positions and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:27 PM
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Here's the thing. In this case perception shouldn't change much because of the simple fact that a big penis hurts most of us. So men really should stop worrying about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:22 PM
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Will they exclude themselves crom society after they stop being productive? No using roads, medicine, shopping... because when we are old we'll depend on other people's kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:19 PM
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I completely agree. I value myself but I'm not a "prize". That sounds so unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:16 PM
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It depends what you mean by success. Narcissists are by definition fragile. While our society does reward narcissism in the workplace for example, it doesn't help you in most other aspects of life. Every narcissist I met had issues with forming proper relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:15 PM
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Narcissism is also a trait. You're talking about narcissism as a disorder, the OP is talking about it as a trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:12 PM
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I find men are moatly jelous of things that the media tells them about women. Mainly that we go through life easily, we could have agreat man if we just wanted to and nonsense like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:06 PM
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Oh yes, the good old days when we didn't get to choose, have a voice or get to work. But we got nice presents!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 11:39 AM
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No, I'm just not here to give instructions because there are so many things I could think of. I'm sure you can finds some online and look for those written by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 11:38 AM
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Fuck you, how dare you say that? Most of us have been attacked. I had my head held down by my hair while a guy jerked off in my face. It happened on the street. But yeah, we're making this up just because we have nothing better to do than to annoy strange men. Get you head out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 11:35 AM
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Bitch please. Learn your biology. I have a functiong brain. Hope you are vegan because animals rank much higher than literally a lump of tissue. What about umours? Are you against cutting those out too? Oh, and that would also mean people aren't dead when they are brain dead. So no more organ transplants.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 11:32 AM
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That doesn't change my point. Who gets injured more? Who ends up dead more?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 11:30 AM
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I was thinking of posting this but I couldn't find the right words. Thank you. It's insane to me that these guys have have a horrible view of women think of themselves as someone who should be loved for their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 06:46 PM
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Yeah, it's not killing either. Shame on you for equating getting rid of some tissue to men abusing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 04:21 PM
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How would you know this? How many men have you rejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 04:03 PM
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Even if we take this banal example. How does that indanger you? Seriously. The point was, we're scared for ourselves so we are scared to directly reject a guy. And then you talk about infantacide
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 04:02 PM
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Women regularly kill their children? Are you trying to present abortion as murder or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 04:00 PM
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Yes, that's why so many men are killed by their female spouses and so much more serious domestic abuse, kidnappings, murders... hapen from women to men. Yes, it's dangeeous and scary to reject a man, not becausenof projections but because most of us have been attacked before. It's fucking personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:59 PM
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I could not think of even a part of them on the spot because there are so many possibilities. There is a variety of social factors from fear to the way we were raised. Even with biological ones it makes much more sense that we would be more selective because childbirth itself is dangerous and we can only do it a few times. Not because we have limited eggs. We have plenty of eggs to use until we're too old to have babies anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:44 PM
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Yeah, maybe I responded to the wrong comment but my point was, it makes sense attractive guys are better in bed because of practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:40 PM
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Because we do want to, feel the physical drive but often you feel degraded because of what society has been teaching us since we were little and because some guys turn out bad once you get to bed with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:22 PM
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It's my experience as well. Good looking guys have more experience and most importantly, are more confident. So they're usually better. Oh! And they usually have the body to thrown you around, which is super sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:19 PM
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There is a lot more. You have guys who have technical skill and guys with the touch (no I'm not just talking about what goes on down there). Then there are the very few that have both and are just amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:17 PM
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Jup! Oral still makes me so uncomfortable because of him. Especially if a guy looks up at me, I'm always reminded.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:15 PM
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That's not really a logical conclusion. There are so many factors yet he arbitrarily chooses one and ignores all the other possible ones. It's a plosible factor but plosible just means could maybe be a factoe but we have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:11 PM
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There is no poi ttalking sense to redpillers. They're delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 11:18 AM
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Yeah because who wouldn't want someone to use their body. How disgousting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 11:10 AM
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I have only met some men who tried to do that with me. It really creeped me out because I'm far from perfect. I really wouldn't want a man that idealises me. I want a man to love me for who I am and who will call me out, if I do something wrong. I want us to bw partners and grow. So I think it's patronising. Women who expect that are obviously very insecure and messed up. So if they get that kind of attention it doesn't help anyone. Not even them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 06:05 PM
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Because there is so much more when looking for a mate than promiscuity and looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 06:02 PM
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Jup, that I totally agree with. It really dependa on your friends. I found it so hard when I was in my 20s sometimes to get a guy because everyone I knew was paired up. You should come here to slovenia, I've heard from guys from the UK and America that girls here are a lot more open about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:59 PM
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There's a lot of luck, yes. Also, I'm noticing americans seem to have the most issues with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:09 PM
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I'm 30 and I think I'm a 7 if 10 is like a really hot model (I used to gogo dance). I did have casual sex a lot. And from my experience, no. Every time I gave a guy a chance (because society guilts you if you don't) I regreted it. That being said, ai've known plenty of average or even bad looking guys who got plenty of girls and I would bet were good in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:35 PM
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One yes, the other I'm not sure how they got together. But the guy is really secure, nice and smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:31 PM
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Yeah there is still no evidence for this. This is huge long shot of a theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:36 PM
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Jup. I can not imagine the guys here would know what to do with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:33 PM
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Yes, I've done it plenty before (not with this boyfriend). My first boyfriend was a perv and he was sexually abusive. He didn't care about my pleasure but he was obsessed with making me orgasm. He didn't care about what I wanted, it was just an ego thing for him. So I faked it to not have to deal with the disappointment. I continued doing it because otherwise men tend to not fucking listen and keep pushing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:32 PM
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Just because we don't orgasm every time it doesn't mean we don't enjoy it very much. There has been research that shows women orgasm in diferent ways, it's not just the explosion men experience that gets us off.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:28 PM
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Exactly. There are also men men who are perfectly capable of controling themselves as well. So this whole excuse men here have is bull.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:24 PM
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Just... come on man, don't believe suvh obvious bs. What you read in these cumminities is pure manipulation and just expressions of messed up people trying to find someone to blame for their issues. You're better than that I hope. Of course we like, want and enjoy sex. It's awesome. I would not have gotten in to trouble with guys so many times if I didn't want to fuck them so badly. Sex is great. It's just not the be all and end all like some guys here seem to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:21 PM
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I know that, linking that to women being selective is a huge stretch with zero evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 02:26 PM
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Lol what is this xD
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:37 PM
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Because most of them don't care about actually helping men aparently. Even if you offer them solutions they don't want that. What they really want is to go back and have women stop fighting against sexism. They pretty much just shit talk about feminism and blame women for eveything. I hardly ever saw actual issues discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:35 PM
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We may be more selective but then you go and draw crazy conclusions about our eggs based on nothing. This is exactly why redpill is such bull. It's the crazy theories.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:28 PM
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Oh for fuck sake 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:12 PM
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That is a legitimate red flag. What's the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 11:23 AM
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Of course someone controling wants a sween innocent naive girl. Do her a favour. Fix yourself and your shit first. Seriously, you'll both be happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 11:19 AM
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I would give this 10 likes if I could.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 11:13 AM
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No. Even if some women want that they are the exception and pinning some biology theories around it makes even less sense. People need to stop doin that - making up biological reasons with zero evidence. Of course you want someone who is successful because you don't want to carry dead weight. Where I live the pay gap is one of the smallest and all women work. Apart from a few very messed up gogo dancers I met, we just want a stabile guy. My boyfriend had no job and was pretty lost when I met him…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 11:12 AM
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That is just not true. At all. I look pretty good since I was a gogo dancer and did some modeling. I found maybe one hot guy to have sex with in a year. I don't know, maybe my country has really unattractive men but I know I'm sure as hell not alone in this. Don't tell women what out experiences are just because they don't fit your theories.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 06:44 PM
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Keep telling yourself whatever makes you sleep better. Never mind victims who experience the exact same consiquences as do other rape victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 06:42 PM
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Every man can have sex whenever he wants with someone he doesn't find attractive. But that's not what we're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 04:51 PM
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You say women should force themselves to be with men against their will. Yes, rape. Rape is not just someone holding you down while you scream. I used to date a guy who thought like this, many of my friends did because that was just what most guys thought 10 years ago. It took us years to get over the trauma. And you want to submit your partner to that? How can you even get of knowing the other person is forcing themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 04:50 PM
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Maslow's hirachy if needs is very outdated. Sex is not classified as a need anymore, nor does it fit the criteria. Psychology has evolved much since Maslow. I'm not saying this "as a woman" but as someone who because of work is around a lot of psychologists.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 04:43 PM
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What do you mean nope? It's literally what you said. If you force sex when the person doesn't want it, it's rape. I know it's easier pretending otherwise but facts are facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 01:55 PM
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You want women to have sex when they don't want to. So yes, rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 01:50 PM
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That's an actual issue. But it's easier to blame women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 01:37 PM
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Loool because women don't have this pesky thing and we just allow ourselves to be raped from time to time. By the way, it's a desire, not a need. Not getting what you want when you want it, is just part of maturing. So grow up. Plenty of men don't have sex when they want, plenty of women don't have sex when they want, so no. It's not about that. It's about some men feeling entitled to sex or other things. Their issues go much deeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 01:35 PM
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I think a lot of men here are entitled. Their moms or someone gave them the impression that they were the most important and they just can't comprehend nor care that women's desires are just as legitimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 01:19 PM
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Are you for real with this? You want to be able to rape your parter because you're in a relationship? I do have to say, there was an awesome topic one time on AskWomen where so many shared how their parrtner initiate sex afterba while. Most of us get bored because our partners think poking you with their dick is enough because you're together. If more guys want sex, turn her on, don't pressure and don't expect it just because you were a bit nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 12:46 PM
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I have no opinion whatsoever. It's just jewery. Unless they don't wear it intentionay to appear single of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 12:34 PM
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You mean like red pill is just a group of sad men who fume over complete misinterpretations of feminism and women. Seems to come full circle!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 12:23 PM
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I love that sub. Their pinned post is a great compliation. Why theneed totalk about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 12:21 PM
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So? Do you think feminists would ever get anywhere if they were concerned with what men wanted for us? This is why people don't take men's complaints seriously because it feels like it has more to do with bringing women back down that with trying to get what you want in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 12:21 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 12:15 PM
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Preach. Women are accused of lying by a lot of guys here. I think they just don't really listen to us. I always assume people know that attraction is the baseline but I gues I overestimate some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 12:07 PM
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They were socialised diferently. I would be willing to bet if they were shoved hot gay men in their faces since kids, like boys are with women, this would be very diferent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 11:31 AM
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Lol really? I don't know anyone who doesn't understamd that there are sexist women just as there are sexist men. It would be beyond stupid to pretend an entire gender is on the same page. That's what repillers seem to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 11:29 AM
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Don't play victim, you sound incredebly sexist and spiteful towards women. So don't be all offended if this post is not taken well. Who the hell are you to tell an entire gender all around the world to take on your issues with your exes. Your generalisation is absurd. And they say we feminists are bitter. Jeesh. For the record, I have zero against bi individuals, you're the problem, not your orientation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 11:23 AM
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In Yugoslavia then, Slovenia now. Socialism did a lot for women equality. We have one of the smallest wage gaps as well. I have never met a stay at home person unless they weren't able to get a job for some reason. Everyone working is the norm. The issue is though that women still carry much more mental burdens, home care and child care so a lot of them have two jobs while men just work. I do think that will just take time because the younger the couple the more equal they usually are at home as…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:38 PM
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Control...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:29 PM
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Men should push to be homemakers more. Seriously, more men being homemakers and primary child reares would help all of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:28 PM
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I'm really happy that we did away with this years ago. Socialism has it's benefits. I can see online that americans have so many more gender issues because of this tradition of housewives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:26 PM
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It actually looks awesome, so I will certainly binge it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:00 PM
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Quite some men do or would if they were't raised that way. If men want to be advocates for men you need to start accepting that men come in all forms. Not all of them are stereotypical.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 05:45 PM
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It effects us all but I think even though it's much less common in men, rape can be even worse to deal with. Otherwise it's boys who get bullied for not being stereotypical enough. It's painful because they really have almost nowhere to get support. Man's rights geoups are filled with toxic masculine ideas, women are more focused on our issues and if you're not gay you really have no healthy community to turn to. Another one is fathers who actually are good (not the ones doing the bare minimum a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 05:43 PM
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Like I said many times... can't make sense out of nonsense and a lot of people here keep contradicting themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:45 PM
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I don't know the show but I watvjed a few clips on youtube. Definately would not be interested in a guy like that. Not even before.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:51 AM
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How is it reverse? Only women with low self esteem usually go for unlikable guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:20 AM
3

Well I hope it all works out for you guys then.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 02:26 PM
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I'm sorry, I just have to say this. No healthy woman will want to be with someone who's sole priority is them. I don't say that to be mean or tear you down but this really sounds like a recipe for an unhealthy codependent relationship. Why do you feel such a strong need to be with someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 01:54 PM
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Finally a good topic. For me it used to be way higher. Now I do have a boyfriend but before we got together I got to a place where I finally accepted that even if I end up alone, I really like myself and I'll be just fine. So because of that, when I met him we got together because we really enjoyed each other. Not because I wanted a boyfriend. I just wanted him. That's success for me. Being with someone in a partnership and as cheesy as it sounds, growing together. I want him to enrich my life a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 01:43 PM
1

I sure hope not although in today's world, who knows. People haveflat earth conventions, why not gender science denial conventions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 12:13 PM
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Yeah they do that but it's ridiculous. Just one more example of how victims are shamed and ostracised instead of listened to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 12:10 PM
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Are you a historian? Or anthropologist? Because men always "hunting" is such an oversimplification. Women had no say in most of our history in who they would be with. You make these wild claims with very limited knowledge and completely ignoring a wide variety of other factors. I can't speak for other cultures but yet you talk as if you studied history and anthropology and have done extensive research on all periods and cultures. There is no evidence to back such claims up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:46 PM
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This has nothing to do with gender dynamics. It's about people skills in general. Trust me, those can be taught. It's not simple at all but there are many psychological techniques. Starting with learning to really listen to others. I was extremely socially awkward when I was younger and now no one can tell. My best friend is a psychologist and we grew up together. So that helped a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:40 PM
1

It comes from everywhere. Men don't shame you directly like women do but they treat you like you worth less if you don't hide your sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:36 PM
1

Work on you ;) you're the most important person you have. You seem smart and insightful. Way more that I was at your age so I'm sure you can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:34 PM
1

I see it all the time. I even have two friends, both are huge and huge geeks. Both have super hot girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:31 PM
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Jup, these theories are insane for anyone who is actually a part of society. I see attractive women with unattractive guys all the time and it's very rare to see the opposite. I don't know, maybe these guys are all in high school or something. Or America is just soooo diferent. But most of these theories completely contradict what I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:30 PM
1

Me too. I got used to hair but I prefer men without.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:22 PM
2

Being overweight or even chubby, I thought long hair was now my bf has it, too old, too buff, just not a pretty face.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:21 PM
1

Yes. Foe anyone else who will read this, talking about incels as if their issues have anything to do with sex is ridiculous. Just because they say that it doesn't make it true. They are disturbed people with savere issues who choose to blame it all on women because that way they can't do anything about it and don't have to take any responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 01:03 PM
1

That is barely even related.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 10:45 PM
1

Then my theory might still be true. But yeah, I can't relate to any of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 10:26 PM
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I'm telling you from a female perspective WHY that is. You make it seem like it's biology but we can't speculate that. I'm not an anthropologist so I can only speak for western society. We have been socialised in to these roles since we were young so it's not possible to know how much biology plays a role and how much society. We can listen to the social aspects of this and try to fix those though and we see what happens. No one can deny women are much more promiscuous than we used to be so some…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 10:24 PM
1

I don't think so. All my male friends are average or even not atttactive. None of them have these problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 10:19 PM
3

Yeah, this makes no sense mathematically.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 10:15 PM
2

Yeah I am fascinated about what planet these people live on. Are you American? Because I assumed there may be a cultural diference.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 10:14 PM
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You're not believing women and you're trying to tell us what we feel and think. Of course no woman want to have sex with a guy like that. You don't listen when we tell you we have been shamed for sexuality our entire lives. You don't just will that away. Look at what the women here are telling you. Online we feel creeped out by guys on Tinder. Plus casual hookups are dangerous. You always take a risk if you go home with a guy you don't know. You're just refusing to hear the whole version. You he…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 10:09 PM
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Exactly. How I cringe when men "hate" this in women but then think only women that look like porn start do the things on the list. It's crazy how clueless the guys here are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 10:03 PM
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Where do you get the data from? Even if it is true, it's maybe because we can finally say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 10:00 PM
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I don't agree. It's simply because it's more dangerous for us. It's diferent than meeting a guy through friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 09:56 PM
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Jup, Tinder is not a realistic representation at all. Of course there are more men on it because it's more dangerous for us. And of course women get to pick then. Crazy, that people use tinder to make such judgements.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 09:55 PM
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Of course. This obsession with attractiveness (physixal or not) is not healthy for anyone. Women have been dealing with this for very long.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 09:52 PM
1

Yeah exactly. They chase this fantasy of some alpha male which is vaguely a thing only in people's 20s anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 07:12 PM
1

Partly I agree that the left vs right thing is one of the reasons. There probably are other reasons though because in most democratic countries you have more diverse parties (although left vs right is always a thing) and we're still developing the same issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 06:20 PM
1

I think it's completely diferent. There might be a similar baseline but overall I don't see the similarities.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 06:16 PM
1

Sure you did those things but at your age (that sounds so old) it makes sense other things don't make you as happy. Your body and brain are made to be obsessed with sex and partnering up right now. When I was 17 and had not had sex yet (I'm a girl) I felt like I was left behind and just felt like a total looser (as a girl you get feed this idea that getting guys is easy for you so when you don't, you think you must just be the worst). I know this doesn't help you feel better probably but it is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 06:15 PM
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Teach people about social skills, get them mentally healthy, give them goals and tech them skills to achieve those goals. Then having sex won't be their purpose in life and ironically, they might form actual relationships and have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 06:06 PM
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I think that is a huge cultural question. I don't think most people, male or female, do in my country.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 03:56 PM
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I just don't get how your last reponse nlis an answer to what I said about there being a big diference between what people here claim and what most people say.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 03:47 PM
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Oooh then you have a wild ride of learning about yourself ahead of you. People find diferent things but there are so many important relations that have nothing to do with sex. Personally I think, as cheesy as it is, friends are the most important. Learning, thinking, growing, travel, experiences, etc. There are so many things people can fill their lives with and as you get older and sex stops being such a novelty you learn how important these other things are. As a teen with raging hormones and …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 03:46 PM
0

I'm kind of missing you point. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 02:43 PM
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You kind prove my point. Hopefully you'll grow up too and realise there is more to life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 02:40 PM
1

You need to learn about what feminism is. First, go learn the hustory, then ignore the US and look at it from other cultural perspectives and then read some academic resources on it. What you are saying is simoly not true. Even if there may be some people who say that, they may be misinterpreting something, explaining it badly or are just wrong. I personally get annoyed when pop feminists talk about men as the issue as if the patriarchy is some conspiracy. It's a social structure and even though…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 02:36 PM
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They really are not driving the bus. I can't speak for the US but women are fighting for their rights all over the world. No buzzfeed lady is involved when creating policies in the EU or when protest in South america. While I completely agree that it sucks if society gets their information on feminism and gender issues from buzzfeed, there are many more layers. It's like how bloggers took over health food and often spread completely false information but that doesn't mean nutrition isn't importa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 02:21 PM
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I know plenty of men who know about the red pill and have met red pill men. They all know it for the bs it is. You can tell yourself they're lying but they're happy healthy adults with healthy relationships with other adults so they do just fine without the rp non-sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 01:05 PM
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They're young and still immature. A lot of us (men and women the same) go through a process and we mature along the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 12:56 PM
1

Yes, sure. But there is a huuuuge leap from that to classifying people as alpha and beta, shaming women for having fun, pretending men don't do the same. The point is they wildly misinterpret normal human behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 12:54 PM
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Oh for fuck sake don't validate this hate these people have. Yes it's scary. Yes it's worrying that so many men are damaged but because they're so damaged they have no idea what their problem is. They have never been taught introspection or obviousy socialised well because the theories people here come up with are insane. I don't know if they maybe apply somewhat to american culture but they certainly hold no water when it comes to people in general. Sex is not the problem (Maslow's hierarchy of…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 12:47 PM
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I have come across hinting at this by saying: "Look at how men have run the world, we would do better." but it was pretty rare. I find that sexist. I actually heard this more often from pretty sexist men who want a more "feminine" input somewhere. I'm a feminist and I still have to overcome my prejudices against women because they were the ones who hurt a hell of a lot more growing up than men. I can assure you that most true feminists, those who understand what the issues are, don't believe in …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 06:12 PM
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Oh I think men should very much be helped. Just not in the way RP men claim they need help. They need psychological skills not sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 06:01 PM
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What lies about the nature of women though? Because I hear this a lot here and as a feminist and someone who has followed feminism I have not often come by anyone claiming women have "a nature". In general feminists believe we should NOT be judged by gender stereotypes. So I'm curious what you mean by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 05:18 PM
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I am a feminist but there is a huge problem with silencing women at least online. You have the option to either be a turf or follow extremely rigid dogmas about gender. I know feminism is not just that but we're not fighting enough for feminism and the bad apples have really taken over.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 05:09 PM
2

Lol where do you guys get this idea about feminism being about "female supremacy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 05:05 PM
1

No way, feminism is not about that. It's about tearing those walls down.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 04:55 PM
5

I'm curious, what lies have feminists told you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 04:54 PM
2

I don't think so unless there is a hidden par of TRP that is not at all sexist and obsessed with getting laid. Feminism unfortunately has been abducted by extremists online. It's so bad that women are silenced in many online communities if they don't agree with the dogma of some. Kn the other hand people because of that reject feminism although they are themselves feminists. But that does not mean feminism begins and ends in online forums. Feminist issues have been studied, discused and solution…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 04:53 PM
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Can't commit, his choice. Not being faitful is just pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 11:35 AM
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I get confused in this world to. It's always two extremes and that's it. It's even used in arguments. If you say for example a person is not the devil reincarnated someone will say: "Oh, so they're perfect and never did anything wrong?" Wtf is it with people and being just so friggin dramatic all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 11:02 AM
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It really is!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 05:00 PM
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My god you people invent invent more expressions and labels that drag queens.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 03:16 PM
0

Ooooh. Yeah that's true xD
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 08:12 PM
1

How? I just gave him a better sub to explore what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 07:35 PM
3

But... there is no understanding an entire gender. I honestly don't know how to respond to that. More than galf the people in the world are not in sync.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 03:56 PM
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It's impossible to completely understand another person. I understand my bf waaay more than plenty of women. That's the fun in it, otherwise we would just be the Borg.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 03:51 PM
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Sore they do, they just aren't creepy about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 03:44 PM
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Lol, no. I had a lot of growing to do and am so proud I did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 03:43 PM
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Weird how many people seem to do just fine with understanding other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 03:41 PM
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Those subs do NOT represent the female perspective. r/askwomen is a good place. I'm a feminist and I am angry at the people who have abducted feminism and represent it in their own twisted ways online. From what I hear the main subs are run by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 03:41 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 01:24 PM
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Wtf are these expressions. There is no such thing as a low value person. Unless you're talking about their shitty value system. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 11:53 AM
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Lol no
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 07:39 PM
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I mean sure that can happen but it's really rare and it usually happens when the two people are just really compatible. Most of the time though, it's super dodgy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:40 PM
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I think for a lot of men this is true. But these red pill hateful guys have seriously deep issues that have nothing to do with women. So I don't think they would be any diferent if women had been nice to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:24 PM
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That is not at all what I said. Do you actually believe that? Because if you do you have issues with perception. And I'm really not being mean here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:12 PM
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Nope, not at all. Thank you for the kind wishes! I wish you well too!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:02 PM
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Men lusting after kids is revolting
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 01:18 PM
12

hairloss
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 01:17 PM
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Haha yeah, I get some men are only focused on what they find most attractive in the moment. I think we all do but I think it's very naive to think insecurity, wanting control... doesn't play a factor. Especially if the guy wants a relationship. I mean just from personal experience or watching those guys on tv, you can tell really fast that pretty much all those guys have serious issues with themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 01:16 PM
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Yeah, it can be very innapropriate and rude if a guy approaches you when you're going about your day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 01:11 PM
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Here's the thing. Blame pushy men. Seriously, I always felt so bad if I'm rude so most of the time I reject the guy nicely. The problem is, most of the time if you're nice they see that as a sign to try harder and that becomes scary. You guys have to understand that for us is not just about feeling but we get scared and we feel in danger. So a lot of women will be rude to protect themselves. It's not fair, I totally understand your frustation but what we need to do is go after the cause, which a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 01:08 PM
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Women didn't change the narrative. It's studies that have shown men have bigger issues with their partners earning more. Beforw you ask, I really don't have time to find them, I'm sure you can :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 06:14 PM
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I think from what I read a lot of the dating issues are really cultural because I think women and men in America and probably some other countries, have a very idealised view of relationships. I always here in television how girls dream about their wedding for example. You would be hard pressed to find a girl that does that here in Slovenia. We get married, a lot of people want to but it's not your dream. For me early 20s were the worst. And I don't look bad, I even gogo danced for a year and di…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 04:59 PM
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Holly shit, no way??! :O And here I saw swooning over everyone who said nice things about me 😥
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 04:44 PM
1

Can I see some sources for those numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 04:41 PM
1

So like I suspected the issue is literally the same as with women. The hot few have it easier finding partners and the rest have it harder because a lot of people are focused on the hot ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 02:20 PM
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Of course not. What a crazy idea. I tried and failed with guys sooo many times. Especially before I went blond, pretty much every guy ignored me. I had friends who really wanted to get laid in their 20 and couldn't. I also had friends who always got all the attention of guys and they weren't particularly hot. That's our 20s though, once people grow up a bit things change.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 02:17 PM
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The only ones here I see doing this is you RP men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 02:09 PM
1

Well my first boyfriend was actually really unattractive. After the first few months I realised that so I forced myself to have sex with him. How good looking someone is is a factor but you guys seriously need to stop thinking it's that important. Unatractive guys get women all the time. It's ridiculous to ignore that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 02:07 PM
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I don't now, I used to be a lot more messed up as a kid. And yes, I stayed after he disgusted me because I was abused. Now thankfully I recognise those red flags in a second.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 02:04 PM
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I was like those women once. I had such a low opinion of myself that I though men who were assholes were honest. But then I grew up, got healthier and I now get that compliments can be honest too if you're secure enough to take them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 01:59 PM
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You need to expand your bubble and meet some more secure men. You'll soon see they do not claim to be simple and that they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 01:53 PM
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Please ignore that weirdo. But that's what I thought yeah. I wanted excitement but I was shy and socially awkward so I didn't want someone like me. My first boyfriend was awful and thinking back just gross and not cool in any way shape or form. But he was a DJ, his friends were really cool and I wanted access to that. It was exciting. To be clear, I was weird back then. So despite the popular opinion here, women sure as hell do not get to pick among guys. Maybe a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 01:51 PM
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Oh man, good thing I have you have you to tell me how I really feel since I'm just a dumb broad incapable of any insight xD xD
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 01:45 PM
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Please don't speak for healthy men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 12:51 PM
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I think it's best for us all to be as healthy as possible so that we don't settle for anyone who isn't good for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 06:38 PM
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Like I wrote, the issue is that bad boys were not presented this way. We grew up with the idea that bad boy are better. In real life they are certainly not. I know plenty of very nice guys who have zero issues with girls. I used to blame men for not wanting to be with me and always chooseing cute girls next door but I now know, that's just life. They were probably sensing my issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 06:35 PM
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I don't think they are. I think the older they get the less happy they are unless they face their issues and grow up. They're usually toxic people who get cut off from their healthy friends as they grow up and start become more and more messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 06:32 PM
1

It's very common. I don't think my parents and many others thought it would have this much of an impact.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 06:30 PM
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It depends on the girl. I was caught up the first time, didn't want to let him go the second. My first boyfriend was sexually abusive although I didn't realise it because I was too young. I just didn't feel good with him and I knew I didn't want to be with him forever but he was putting me down so much, twlling me no one else will ever stand me, so I stayed. I liked his world, I liked the drugs, the parties, living on the edge and I felt like if I loose him I'll just be home all the time. The se…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 06:28 PM
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Hm... I know exactly what it is to me now but I'm trying to remember how I saw it when I was younger. In psychology one of the main characteristincs is not that you feel like you'll succeed in anything but that you know you'll be able to handle it if you don't. So I think that's one of the more important things I always found attractive. Feeling like I don't have to "handle" the guy. When he approaches I feel that if I did say no, it wouldn't be a big deal to him. So that makes me and made me a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 06:21 PM
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That's their business honestly. I just really can't be sympathetic to people who think they're entitled to sex. Especially since every expert will probably tell them that's not their core issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 06:07 PM
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Lol you literally ignored what I just said becausenit doesn't fit in to your narrative of me just not wanting to discuss this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 03:25 PM
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That's because the alpha beta thing is bollocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 03:24 PM
1

But the point is, a lot of us wanted Dylan because he was freeing, not because he was bad. We may not have realised it because we were kids but that's the allure. You could be yourself with him while Brandon would want you to be a stay at home mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 03:22 PM
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Where I live parents don't get involved in who their kids are dating usually unless there's a reason to. Most of us were never ttaught what kind of guy to look for or what to watch out for. Even if we were though, tv is waaaaay cooler than your parents when you're young. If your parents tell you something you'll usually think the opposite as a teen. I can only speak for my environment, whivh is not American.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 03:19 PM
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I didn't want to change any guy. The issue is that they're charming in the beginning and by the time you see how messed up they are you're already caught up in their world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 03:16 PM
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I really couldn't care less about people who just want to get laid but... since when do people get married before having sex? I know plenty of girls who always wanted nice guys. I know plenty who always wanted nice guys but no one payed them any interest because they weren't popular or good looking enough. Hell, the reason why I ended up with with my first boyfriend, who was horrible (not a "Chad" just shit) was because I never got interest from guys, since i was "weird". I lost 5 years with him…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 03:14 PM
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It's not because they're alpha. Like I said, for me and the friends who I had this discussion with, tv hugely shaped our perception. It's also that when you're a young girl you have been taught to not break rules, push boundaries and so on. Part of you still feels like a guy will be the one to bring you out and take you somewhere more interesting. It's not until later that a lot of us learned to be trully independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 03:03 PM
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One thing is an educated opinion, another is just sharing something that makes sense to you and third is telling me what I want as if I can't speak for myself. You did the latter and me not liking that doesn't mean I wouldn't accept a well worded discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 02:55 PM
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Exactly, thank you. Of course there are genuine nice guys. I was lucky to have an amazing father and I have an amazing boyfriend. There are "nice guys" as well unfortunately but that in no way means good men don't exist. People always accuse feminists of reading in to things but some guys here blow my mind with their biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 02:53 PM
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🤦‍♀️ the mansplaining here is beyond belief. Can you not see how pateonising what you wrote is or do you not care?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 01:31 PM
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Of course, how could a woman know why I think and feel the way I do. I should just listen to guys with zero knowledge and no interest in listening to women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 01:29 PM
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My point exactly. Dylan is "trouble" while Brandon is in student politics. We all know that good people go in to politics. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 01:27 PM
1

What the hell are you talking about? Dude, if that's how you read it you have some serious bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 01:12 PM
2

Well I don't go out to bars and clubs anymore but still happens at least a few times per month. Worst was when I worked in the bar and when I had to work as a gogo dancer. Interestingly, working in the bar was even worse. I had men literally jerking off in the corner, grabbing me, sniffing me, tellinge me they'll have to rape me, talking about my body and so on. I'm really comfortable with my body but I was covering up in the summer because of the harassment and it felt so humiliating to have to…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 12:50 PM
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Aaaaah but of course. It's funny to me because in Europe italians are often seen as the most annoying sleezy men (especially to us since they're our neighbours) but in american media they're portrayed as passionate and sexy. We girls learn early on, to run the other way when you hear them. Good thing they're loud xD (I'm so sorry if any italian is watching this).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 08:03 PM
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Yeah, it's crazy. I would much rather be alone than do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 07:56 PM
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Is this an american thing? Really, because I see people bitching about this all the time on Reddit and I don't know if it's one of those things where people misunderstand what people are saying, blowing what some people say out of proportion or do people really believe this in the US? Because I don't think I've ever spoken to anyone who claims that. What me and many people so say is that looks are not everything and really unattractive people can still have no problems with the sex they're inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 07:55 PM
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I can imagine. I mean this VERY much depends on the country they're from though. Americans have great game compared to our men here in Slovenia (slovenian girls fall all over foreign guys) but not that much in other countries. I noticed they're just so... careful and tense compared to most men I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 07:43 PM
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Yeah, I remember watching Love is Blind (so stupid i know) and while I'm fully aware they're not representative I was still so surprised that so many of thwn said, that thwy have no one to talk to. And they weren't weirdos or socially awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 06:53 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 06:51 PM
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What do you mean when you call men bluepill? I ask because the way I understand the term a guy getting lap dances doesn't seem to fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 05:48 PM
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I'm talking about the community in general. Of course there are people who don't do that in it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 05:28 PM
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The trainieng and reading books I don't think are basics but they are good things. It's not that the advice is bad, it's how it's framed. People should o more for themselves, not "to score".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 05:27 PM
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What is bluepill to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 04:06 PM
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Most of the issues these man have are because of the exact same reasons women have issues. It's general sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 04:04 PM
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Can you give an example? Because I don't think I have read a single true thing. The fact that people think our perspective on us is irrelevant just shows what the real reason is these people don't get along with women. It's beyond insulting to try and analyse us in these pateonising ways and disregard what we tell you about us. Of course these man are all the authority on men but women can't even speak for themselves personally. It's ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:49 PM
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Yes, exactly! They don't even consider that people function very diferently elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:31 PM
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I've noticed that americans have a lot of issues with dating. I've watched american dating shows as well and it's insane how some people view relationships. For me it's so obvious that half of the people who are supposedly "redpill" don't have issues with women (like they think they do) but with dating, communication and so on. The things they say about women are so out there that they either have not met many women or it's a cultural thing. I think it's a combination of both.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:31 PM
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You just made my point by thinking of only those diferences lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:15 PM
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It's just such a bizzare attitude toward other people. Everyone is so worried about being desirable to women, maybe just relax and stop oversimplifying humans. Psychologists are only scratching the surface yet people here talk like we can be neatly analysed with a few bullet points. Even the expressions used are just... bizzare. Has anyone ever done a study how many people in these communities might be on the autism sprectrum? Seriously, because this is so out of touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:14 PM
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I don't know what FDS means and an extremist meme sub on reddit is not a great source (although I can't actually see the content weirdly). Edit: just noticed it's a user lol Can you give a specific example of someone implying this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:04 PM
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That's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:00 PM
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Where on earth did you get the idea that all men are sex obsessed or sexist. I literally made the opposite point that the most sexist men seem to be obsessed with sex, neither of which is the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:00 PM
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No offense but these people should not be your source for women. I don't like this word but here it fits. They are the prime example of what mansplaining is. Making up their own theories about us and invalidating what we express is our experience. They literally think they know women better than we know ourselves, yet mostly fail to get us to like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 01:54 PM
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That's good to hear. I find a lot of men who are not sexist don't see how many people are (women just as much). I know that I probably won't experience drastic changes but I do want future kids to grow up in a world where they're not limited by their gender. That's it. If there are still biological diferences, who cares. We just should give then an equal environment and have them evolve however they will.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 01:46 PM
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I think the main issue is that redpillers take these basic biological things that drive us (I don't know anyone who denies them) and reduce everything to just that, which is silly. Most of us get that there are also biological factors at play when dating but they certainly are not the only factors. Plus, while finding a partner is important to most people it's not the sole focus of most.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 01:37 PM
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From what I've gathered online and from watching reality tv americans have a very weird attitude towards finding a partner. I think a lof of the issues are cultural.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 01:34 PM
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You should not read these sensationalised stories. It distorts your perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 01:32 PM
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No. Right now it's obviously diferent. How could it not be? When talking about design I'm talking mostly about how a diferent anatomy effects design.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 01:30 PM
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Yeah, they're never going to get this...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 01:16 PM
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Where do you find people who say excluding 90% of men woukd be good lol. It is only underatandable to not want to have anything to do with incels and other entitled sexist men. Ultimately it's also good if they don't have kids and pass on their delusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 01:11 PM
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No, some men were taught to be actual nice people. Most men are not consumed by sex and don't so everything just to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 01:04 PM
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Lol what? You're talking about people, not objects. 🤦‍♀️ This sub does not cease to amaze me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 01:00 PM
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Or... women like sex! :O
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 12:56 PM
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You just took my first sentence and ignored everything else that was an explanation of it. And no, they weren't virgins, I talking about guys I slep with 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 08:41 PM
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What do you think blue pill is?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:57 PM
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Understanding the biology of a person's body doesn't make you transphobic. Yes, some extremists may want to present it that way but it's not true. Not accepting and recognising the gender the person identifies with is the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:56 PM
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Well we're not equal yet. So you have to give a boost to those who are at a disadvantage otherwise. I mean it might leave some people upset but these measures do work if done properly. I mean hell, I was able to get my foot in to politics because of this. I still have to eat a looof of shit because of my gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:54 PM
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That depends. Baing in poitions of power is the important part but of course this issue extends to other areas as well. If we had a trully equal society I'm sure it would be around that and if not, well in a trully equal society that wouldn't be an issue. It would be an issue with for example designers, because it's good to have a female perspective to design for women as well as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:51 PM
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Well no lol. I know plenty and none of them are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:44 PM
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I don't know what the reason is so I can't comment on it being fair. I don't know what it has to do with feminism or social issues in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:43 PM
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The operative word here is MAY. Assuming characteristics are biological can be more damaging than simply raising kids the same, treating people the same and having individual diferences come up as they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:39 PM
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Of course
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:20 PM
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Well fuck 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:19 PM
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https://theoutline.com/post/7083/the-magical-thinking-of-guys-who-love-logic?zd=3&zi=icugp3sw
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:19 PM
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Oh, I will check that out although radical usually means transphobic so we'll see.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:12 PM
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Me to!! I hate these extremes - _-
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:09 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:09 PM
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No, not by law but socially. Do you think my opinion has the same weight as a man's? I've literally used my boyfriend to speak instead of me sometimes because people will take that way more seriously. Especially when raising issues. These guys measure their dicks all the time, argue like crazy but if I raise an issue it's "drama". Everyone has to fight in politics but I have to fight harder. So yes, a ton of us simply say fuck it. Even if the reason was just lack of motivation as some like to sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:08 PM
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I know men who are anti-feminist in real life and not sexist but that's just because they see feminism as what they see on buzzfeed and on social media. You sound similar. I hate how media has completely distorted people's perception. A big clue to how this works is that people I know that get triggered by "oversensitivity" seem to have facebook feeds full of news about that. More than those of us who are feminists or any other activists. Media is targeting people who will get upset over that, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 06:01 PM
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Not persuing women is not sexist. Antifeminism is a red flag though and not wanting anything to do with women (I just googled MGTOW so I'm only goimg from that)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:55 PM
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What's that now? This is so cunfusing 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:54 PM
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It is whiny. Ever since I started using reddit a few weeks ago it's been frustrating me that I can't find a place to talk about these things. Most feminist subs have been abducted by extremists just wanting to use feminism to not deal with their own issues and on the other hand you have boarderline delusional sexism. This sub apart from being too one sided actually seems interesting and the mods seem really cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:52 PM
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What's FDS?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:48 PM
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Yeah, that. They analyse us as if we're some strange creature that only they understand. Ironically they really get things so wrong and don't seem to really talk to many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:46 PM
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Well with people who don't know these subjects very well, yes. That opinion is sexist unless it is based on facts (not a few random experiments) and is an even bigger issue if you start claiming that's because of biology and even worse would be then claiming women should not be in emergency work. A sexist opinion doesn't make you sexist though (unless it's bad enough) or a bad person. We're raised with these ideas, it takes work to do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:42 PM
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I'm confused. What am I supposed to get from this person? I mean I am curious about what drives people to sexism and how those who are not extrimists think because I want change but I'm not going to accept sexism. What I do miss is a sub that is not extremists when it comes to gender issues. Feminist and MRA ones are equally bad in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:26 PM
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Why do you think you're a misogynist?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:20 PM
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I don't even know what a blue pill is supposed to be? That handfull of extremists that claim to be feminists but use feminism as a platform to vent their own frustrations and issues or anyone who understands sociology and research being done in this field and recognises sexism issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:19 PM
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xD hahaha this is a new one. #conspiracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:15 PM
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Judging from comments, the derogatory language, constantly seeking diferences, making up theories of how said diferences are based in biology while experts say otherwise, hating feminism and woman's rights in general, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:14 PM
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Yeah, I'm not doing this. For the record, I'm not american but I am in politics. If you think hard work is how power is aquired... well...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:12 PM
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It's not my definition it's one I got of a research paper I thought was good. I think most people can understand what sexism is from the above definition, if you can't then read a book on these issues and if you want to play semantics, I'm not your target. No way am I spending time doing this especially since I assume no definition would be "logically consistent" enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:10 PM
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Well insulting someone over something so petty indicates anger. Dude I don't care about semantics. I forgot what the point of this was in the first place because this surely was not it. If you just mind the expression then I don't care. If you're misunderstanding what people usually mean when they say it's not a big deal then I made my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:05 PM
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Yeah, feminism has nothing to do with responsibilities. It's not like we want more power in society nor do we fight for important issues that would have huge impact.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:00 PM
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Well obviously the sexist people here will celebrate. I think obviously it's bad. Any time people choose something out of fear it's not much of a choice. In my country women pretty much don't stay at home so this won't be an issue I think. I feel bad if this does happen in other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 03:58 PM
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I am not getting in to this. If you can't figure out what sexism is on your own, that's above my ability to teach you. I personally think you're being obtuse but either way, I don't have time for that. I can say that the answer to both your questions is no but you already knew that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 03:49 PM
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Why are you so angry over this? Sure it can be a big deal to some people. Literally anything can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 03:46 PM
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No, it means it's not a BIG DEAL it leaves it to be open to be anything else besides the big deal some people see it as. That's sex, not rape, abuse and so on. Like many things it need to be handler responsibly and maturely though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 03:38 PM
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Why do you insist on arguing? You have completely missed the point but I don't think you're not smart enough to get it. Not defining things as black or white is not flip-floping. You just don't understand what not a big deal means in this context and I'm trying to explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 03:31 PM
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I really don't want to go in to a whole back and forth about this. I hate that and it's always pointless in the end. I will say this, no matter how you rationalise it, men are in most power positions. Until society adapts so that's no longer the case men (as a social geoup not individuals) have the advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 03:26 PM
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She feels used because her expectations have been violated. That sometimes means she's not mature enough and had wrong expectations despite what the guy told her or (more often) this wasn't cleared up before they had sex. If you want just a fling I think it's fair to let the person know before they get too in to it and you should still remain respectful. Often in my experience men will turn in to assholes the next day or keep BSing then ghost you. I never had issues with nice guys who were hones…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 03:23 PM
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No big deal doesn't mean it doesn't have specific characteristics. Every social interaction does and with sex there's a lot of oxytocin released, our pleasure receptors get triggered so we do have to be mature enough to learn to handle all that. Mostly people are upset when their expectations get violated. So if someone has an issue of their sex partners getting upset often they may not be clear enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 03:18 PM
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Still I was under the impression this was not just a sexist community.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 03:13 PM
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"Individuals' attitudes, beliefs, and behaviors, and organizational, institutional, and cultural practices that either reflect negative evaluations of individuals based on their gender or support unequal status of women and men."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 03:12 PM
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Either you don't get what I mean, I don't get what you mean or those are red herrings and paper tigers. I don't get the connection between those questions and mine at all. Women are not the topic right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 03:08 PM
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Well for now the disadvanteges far outweigh the advantages so before we start worrying about that we have a while to go. That being said, I am against women being superior and I would like us all (men and women) to be treated as individuals. Not based on gender. With the few exceptions being thing where physical diferences are important, like separate sport categories. For example I know that god forbid there was a war and mandatory draft I would have to argue women and men be drafted equally. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 02:59 PM
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I don't understand what you wrote. Is that "red pill" jargon?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 02:49 PM
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Sex is no big deal when it's your choice. Not if you're manioulated in to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 02:41 PM
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Because a woman may not have wanted to have sex if the guy hadn't lied (yes it goes both ways, I'm answering the OP's specific question). Some men even manipulate or use emotional blackmail, which is then basically rape. Then you have women who are in a bad position, not really capable of making good decisions and men take advantage of that. I think this whole idea of humans being able to make rational decisions all the time is childish anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 02:38 PM
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Thse theories make no sense in many many ways. You can't make sense out of nonsense. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 01:07 PM
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I think that's very true. If they tried it would be on them if they fail. If they blame women then there's nothing they can do about it and they can stay miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:03 PM
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No. Not all of us are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:01 PM
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I don't remember expressing a standard that would use logic which would make the last sentence true. I am asking myself why there is a correlation between sexism and sex obsession. I think you're under the impression that that's the same as saying people who are obsessed with sex are sexist because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 05:49 PM
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You're missing the point. Those assholes you mention are not happy or healthy just because they get laid. If that's your focus you won't be happy. You have to take care of yourself for yourself. Not to get a date because then it won't work. Yes it's nice to be in a relationship but it's not what defines us. Nor does sex. That kind of thinking is exactly why people endu up in toxic relationships. It's much better to be healthy alone than sick with somebody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 02:58 PM
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SOME men. You can claim all are like that till your blue in the face but it doesn't make it true. Most men have a variety of interests and sex is one of the fun things. Absolutely not the only thing they live for.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:58 PM
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Yes you can become addicted to that as well. Not the point 🤦‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:44 PM
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Here we go again. Forget getting women, these people have issues that go way deeper than not getting women. They need to work on themselves, learn to be happy with themselves and learn basic skills for that. People thinking stuff like sex, food, alcohol... will fix their problems just get stuck. It's a really bad short-term coping mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:42 PM
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No because the whole idea of alphas and betas is beyond stupid. I have friends who have been pretty much with the same guy since they were yound and they're happy. I'm saying all these simplified theories sound boarderline delusional. These people need to stop spending so much time coming up with bizzare theories and more time actually socialising and listening to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:38 PM
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I'm really happy for you. These bubbles come inmany shapes and can alter a person's perception. My ex was a digital marketer so I'm really aware of all the tricks. Most people aren't though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:27 PM
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I think the big diference here might be confidence. I've met men like you, who are "obsessed" but because they're confident they still have other goals, wants and so on. I think that's a major diference.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:23 PM
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Not really, i'm talking about this hyper focus. Humans get hungry as well, food is an actual need, which sex is not. Yet we don't go around constantly thinking of food. People here can be as stubborn as they want but it won't change the fact that most people have many pleasures in life. Sex just being one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:21 PM
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You genuinely think those men who seem happy and fulfilled with things besides sex are the ones in denial and those who are hateful are the ones who are honest with themselves? I really don't think so. This belief is really unhealthy and prevents people from finding happiness. They get stuck in being miserable because they're focused on one thing. If you want a comparison, it's like how (I've heard) in Amwrica some women are obsessed with getting married as if that's their sole purpose in life. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:17 PM
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Thank you! The first reasonable response here. This sub seems to be pretty much full of redpillers :/ I though of something similar as well. I find it interesting because these men seem to deny the fact that other things can make you happy in life. That you can form meaningful relationships, have hobbies, explore the world, do sports... they lock themselves away from all that and don't move on in life. It sounds like an excuse to stay miserable. So yeah, you have a really good point there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:11 PM
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Was that last sentence sarcasm? Because I really don't think it's them being angry for not getting laid. If they did they wouldn't magically change. I know quite a few men who don't get much or any sex but they're confident and fins other things to enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:07 PM
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It's true but it still doesn't answer my question. Obviously that's not the reason because all men are bombarded with this. Only some become sexists who's only point in life is getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:05 PM
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Ok for fuck sake... I asked a question and all I got was people proving my point, spewing sexist nonsense. Whataboutism aside you seem like you're actually able to hold a conversation I agree that someone who is obsessed with sex is not always sexist and there are sexist men who aren't obsessed with sex. But come on can you seriously claim there is not a huge correlation. Just look at this sub and this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:03 PM
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The men here are a bunch of sexist pigs it would seem. I had the wrong idea about this sub. Most men are not like this despite what they tell themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:57 PM
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Sex is not a basic need. And money is certainly not lol since it's a late invention. Sex is a want and yes, people want sex. Claiming they're as obsessed with it as most men here and sexist men in general is just not true no matter how much some may want that to feel normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:54 PM
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See, this is literally what I'm talking about. You're the perfect example of what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:51 PM
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How is there not? This thread and sub are perfect examples. The sexist men here are obsessed. Yes pretty much all men and women like sex. On avergage men might want it more. But it's not their point of existance like it is for the most sexist men who almost solely focus on that. As is evident here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:50 PM
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Oh for fuck sake... 🙄 Can we just stop with that stupid delusion? I'm genuinely curious and won't enable your rationalisations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:47 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:45 PM
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Masturbating and being obsessed with sex, seeing everything as subjugated to finding someone to have sex with is not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:44 PM
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Drug addicts want money because it fuels their addiction. Obviously not all men are sexist or obsessed with sex like these men are, so what's the connection? I think you're the one not getting something...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:42 PM
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But we know why that is. Here I don't know what the reason is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:36 PM
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In my experience, a good looking guy is more likely to be good in bed purely because he's usually more confident and has more experience. Oh and he can man handle you!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:33 PM
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Lol what?? That's the stupidest thing I heard. Not only that but how low do some people value themselves? Geez. In my experience, because I have been with a lof of guys I now know what to appreciate. My boyfriend is a handful joke making geek that I am right now wating for because he wants to finish his raid before we wattch a movie. I would not have been able to appreciate how amazing he is if I haven't gone through a few assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:32 PM
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That's not an objective rule. That's for them to decide. Every relationship is diferent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:28 PM
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It's not about having the right or not. This just has to do withthe way you define a relationship. My boyfriend doesn't watch porn (hence he's the best sex I ever had) but that was a total coincidence. Eveeyone I was with before watched porn, pretty much every man I know does and while I am against it because of the damage it causes, I can't judge men in today's world for watching it. That being said, if someone's relationship has diferent rules and they made a deal about that. If the woman feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:27 PM
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Because there's an outbreak and it's where the trashy media is now getting their clicks from. This "news" you read is a simply a business and your clicks are what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:22 PM
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You need to stop clicking on clickbait if your newsfeed is full of that. Seriously, get out of your bubble because they make up these "over the top PC" storues to scare and anger you, so that they get clicks. That's not a realistic representation of any society.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:19 PM
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I don't get your point. Because Maslow said that it has to be true? In modern psychology they stopped defining it as a need because that's an obsolete idea made to excuse innapropriate behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:13 PM
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It's true. Experts don't define it as that. It's a want, nothing more. Some peoplejust won't accept it because of dogma and because then they would actually have to be responsible for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:11 PM
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The very fact that some of you see a woman being sexual as her being dehumanised makes the OP's point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:04 PM
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Exactly. Some guys will never get it because blaming women is a self-defense mechanism. Getting people to change those is really hard. I do feel bad for them because they clearly were not taught very important basic coping mechanising and social skills and they're mostly clearly in pain. It doesn't excuse their behaviour or what they spread.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:04 PM
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Only insecure men who view women as a prize think this. I was just listening to a good looking confident friend talk about how he almost slept with an almost 60 year old woman (he's in his late 20s) because she was hot. Ibmy experience it's way easier to find a guy later in life because they're more grown up and because you filter away more boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 12:01 PM
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Preach! You say what I've been thinking very well. I hate it when this gets presented as a benefit. I have been friend zoned by guys I really liked countless times. Sure I got sex from them a few times but so what? They were in full control. Having random sex with random guys is even less appealing. I have never ever had an orgasm with a random guy I was with. Ever. The worst thing is, because we're taught since we're kids that women are in control, women have men falling for them, when that doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 06:07 PM
1

Your reaction seemes very angry. It's not invalid because of anger, it is because it makes no sense and that kind of attitude just does not seem healthy man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 02:14 PM
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Yes, that's exactly what I meant because all of us think in terms of extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 02:12 PM
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How was I reading in to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 03:22 PM
2

That's not what I meant at all but sure if you want to equate it, it doesn't change my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 03:19 PM
2

It's the same if not worse with men. They talk about how they wouldn't mind being geopped by women or how they would love the attention women get from men. Or they are talking about how women don't want them but completely discount any unattractive women in all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:58 PM
1

Well that's very sad. I would try to figure out where this anger comes from if I were you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:56 PM
1

Who says those of us who are against slut shaming women are not against doing the same to men? There is a social diference though. Men who will manipulate and lie to women to make them have sex with them should get criticised. Obviously women as well but it's an issue more common among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:55 PM
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Yeah we do get pissed because we've been put down so much. Hoe is very derogatory. You should take responsibility for giving us here the impression with your comment that you do in fact think of promiscuous women as lesser and that it makes sense for us to doubt that women you speak about can sense that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:25 PM
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Ah I forgot it's a buzzword now. I was using it metaphorically. No need fo semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 01:55 PM
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You used the word hoe, you need to learn to take responsibility. Don't play the misunderstood victim when you literally slut shamed in your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 01:51 PM
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I don't even know how to respond... It's just so untrue. I worked in bars and was around a looot of men. In general they are shamed for wanting to be faithful and wanting to be with their partner and kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 01:31 PM
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We don't "have something men want". We are not something. There are plenty of men that a lot of women want as well. We're not gatekeepers of sex, it's a mutual experience. Men are not brainless sex zombies and women are not objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 01:10 PM
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I love how without mentioning one gender some people still assume all the blame is on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 01:06 PM
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You're in denial. You want to be able to slut shame and not own it. You having preferences in who you date is your own business although it is a sad prejudice. Calling women hoes shows you're slut shaming goes beyond just that. For me when I was dating I would wear slutty clothes. My friends kept telling me how good guys are not attracted to that. For me it was a filter for guys who would judge me for my sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 01:04 PM
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Why try to make sense out of non-sense? It's just sexist bullcrap people make up as they go along.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 12:58 PM
1

I think if we weren't raised with the stigma, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 05:47 PM
1

Well there you have it then.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 02:08 PM
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You seriously overestimate our autonomy then. Because study after study shows we don't make decisions in a vacuum. Plus it makes sense because we're built through evolution to adapt to what is expected of us. Growing up is absorbing all the rules and norms and internalising them. This idea that people have, that we're rational is an illusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 02:07 PM
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xD oh honey if you only knew how stupid you sound. I really hope you're young.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 01:53 PM
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Well guys have managed with me. It was just becausenI was guilted by others in to thinking I was being picky. I really regreted it. So do you want to risk taking advantage?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 01:15 PM
2

This just sounds like an incel thing. It's ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 12:12 PM
0

What? It's not even a theory. It has zero basis. I'm stupid because I don't just blindly believe things that are based on wrong ideas to begin with (in contrast to proponents of these theories I actually know some things about animal behaviour)?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 05:50 PM
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"Very liberated" women still don't choose stem professions, wear makeup and do many things we as women have been socialised to do. We can only study how things are at the moment with our current socialisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 05:46 PM
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I'm really sad for you. Like I said, you obviously need to believe everyone is as shitty as you, just pretending otherwise. Well accept it, you're the one who is sexist (to men and women) and people actually are better than you. You can be too but it means you have to actually be brave and put in some work. Of course you will now claim that you wouldn't want to be better but we both know deep down inside you don't like yourself. And I just have to say, it's seriously mind-boggling that we femini…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 05:21 PM
2

We have not established that. There is some circumstantial evidence. Like I said before, I would bet my right arm that if women were raised to be more free with our sexuality more would not have a problem with men being with other men in real life. You have no idea how many girls I know who started to like that as they matured ad became more honest with themselves. Many men don't like lesbian stuff either. We're not homogeneous groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 05:48 PM
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Ew... I value men much more than that and I know it's not true. People who claim that are either men who want to believe them being shitty is natural, other men are just pretending or women with very bad experiences generalising.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 05:42 PM
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It's annoying that people come up with these theories, that don't connect with what experts know and then try to sell them as legitimate. The fact that this "theory" (and I use the term very lightly) is still being talked about is absurd. We're not denying the behavioirs, just the simplified interpretation of them. You should really talk to some proper experts about this. Like anthropologists, sociologists and psychologists. And not just one. Because I don't know how to explain this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 05:35 PM
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It's exactly the same with me and every other girl I know. It's one behavioural trait with humans and a lot of other species. The idea, that one is "better", on top, ahead or whatever you want to call it is a guge leap though. That comes from out own social biases because we are taught that's how we should value it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 03:02 PM
1

That's my point, calling someone alpha or above on the ladder is way oversimplifying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 02:22 PM
1

Well it makes sense if you talk to your friends that they might agree but it's a huuuge leap to generalise that to all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 02:20 PM
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I am in to those things and lol it's not just because it's taboo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 02:18 PM
2

How isthis any weirder than men watching lesbian porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 02:16 PM
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When we were young, emo boys making out was THE hot thing. So was the tv show Queer as folk, which had hot men making out and having sex. I said it before and I'll say it again. I would bet my right arm that most women "don't like it" because they are conditioned not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 02:13 PM
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If women really don't like bisexual men I wod bet my right arm it's because of social conditioning. I have always gound that interesting although I never got to date a bisexual guy myself. I did know a lot of women who siad they would have a problem with it but as they grew up and gained confidence they completely changed their mind. On the other hand some of us grew up watching hot gay men on tv so it's even hot to us. I find it sad that women feel this way but I do think future generations wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 02:07 PM
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The reason why women often find it unattractive is because of social conditioning and homophobia. Those of us who don't have those issues respond very well to it. I find it sad that this cycle started with homophobia might be continuing. You have to also underatand, this kind of affection is really normal here in most of Europe. So it's a cultural thing as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 01:59 PM
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There is some social hierarchy it's just not neraly as simple as people make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 01:54 PM
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This is such a ridiculous oversimplification. I work with dogs and know a lot about their behaviour. We made the mistake of way oversimplifying their social structures and those of other animals. Now we're doing that with people. In reality it's much more complex than a simple "alfa" and everyone else bellow them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 01:53 PM
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Whenever I talk with these guys I end up thinking... have they ever spoken to a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 01:50 PM
0

I seem welcome by some others. I didn't demand or expect anything personally from you and you are free to do whatever you wish.
/r/MensRights14/02/20 08:23 AM
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I wasn't making statements about the middle-east because there was no reason to. I don't hink anyone needs to justify themselves to me, a stranger on Reddit but I am curious. I think so many issues these days come from being so involved in our own perspective that we don't take the time to listen to others. I see a lot of anger coming from the MRA movement and it is growing. That tells me there has to be a reason for it and a lot of men might be feeling frustrated, hurt, scared, etc. I am curiou…
/r/MensRights13/02/20 06:27 PM
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I'm so sorry for your experience. I guess things are very different in "the west". We don't have a strong feminist movement in my country but because of what people read in the media from America there is a strong movement against feminism. I understand better why there is such a rift between you guys there though. I just wish we would all be nicer to each other. Know that many of us do care <3
/r/MensRights13/02/20 06:15 PM
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I completely agree we shouldn't leave men behind. It would be sexist to do so.
/r/MensRights13/02/20 06:11 PM
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I couldn't agree more! I also work with animals so I know the bigger a movement gets, the more it develops toxic subgroups. It's sad because it undermines the actual goal. I find it to be very self-serving.
/r/MensRights12/02/20 01:37 PM
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I think it's more complex than that personally. I don't see humans as rational being but influenced by our past, values, expectations and so on. I can give you a personal example since the woman you cited gave hers. I never cared for domestic chores or being in control of that. Then I had my first boyfriend who I was with for much too long (5 years). He was incompetent. He really genuinely was, at 22 his mom cleaned his room, put sunscreen on him before he left home, he did nothing. So he wanted…
/r/MensRights11/02/20 06:15 PM
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I can't comment on your pespective and culture but I don't feel pushed in to choosing a career. If anything most women my age I speak to have the issue of having kids pushed on them. A lot of them even feel guilty for not wanting them. So my perspective is the opposite of yours. As I have mentioned in other comments, stay at home parents is a very uncommon thing in my country but interestingly is very common in places where there are also very strong views on gender politics. From personal exper…
/r/MensRights11/02/20 04:41 PM
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I don't know why you keep insisting anyone is forcing anyone to emote like someone else.
/r/MensRights11/02/20 03:28 PM
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I don't agree we should go back to times when women stayed at home. Me and my friends are of baby having age. Personally I don't want children. In our country we have very good maternity and paternity leave and still they know, that if they have kids they will either burn out or have to sidetrack their career. Most will and are choosing career. Having children may be the most fulfilling thing some people do, but you can not generalise that.
/r/MensRights11/02/20 03:26 PM
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I'm sorry if that came accross as a generalisations but it was not meant to be. I know plenty of men who have good coping skills and are healthy and plenty of women who don't. What I'm saying is that statistically there are issues among men in many western cultures. Certainly where I come from where men commit suicide successfully more often than women. I don't underatand how we can face issues and not claim everything is fine at the same time.
/r/MensRights11/02/20 02:17 PM
1

Couldn't agree more <3
/r/MensRights11/02/20 12:06 PM
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Thanks for sharing. I don't think anyone should have to go through that. You do sound like a great father and your baby is lucky to have you.
/r/MensRights11/02/20 12:04 PM
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Normal? It seems so. Ok, not at all. And yes, it frustrates me to the core but it is very natural behaviour and I spent so much time convincing people not to do it but... what can you do? Most ideologies that are highly emotional will "protect their own" which I think only prevents movements from achieving their goals.
/r/MensRights10/02/20 10:43 PM
1

Yes... there are a bunch of us ferret weirdos :D
/r/MensRights10/02/20 10:40 PM
1

Like I said, had it for a while becuase of work :)
/r/MensRights10/02/20 10:39 PM
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Pretty sure it's not only feminists :) I know for a fact at least animal activists do it too (I work in that field as well).
/r/MensRights10/02/20 10:38 PM
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I am pretty pragmatic and honestly, sometimes we should all be. I completely get it and I find myself on the other side as well, some feminists take that to the extreme and claim that they don't want men to be allies at all because us deserving something should be enough. But I'm also in politics and if you want to achieve actual change I found that we humans need to learn to bite the bullet more and just work together when we want the same thing. I completely agree though that what you said sho…
/r/MensRights10/02/20 10:37 PM
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Crying is a specific expression of emotion. There are many others (although my boyfriend cries almost as much as me - he has ADHD). I didn't mean to suggest anyone should be "fixed" for the sake of others but obviously there is an issue because there are a lot of male suicides, alcoholism, physical aggression among men which is not good for anyone. The cause usually is lack of proper coping skills and skills on how to deal with the emotions in a healthy way. We are all different so I am not sayi…
/r/MensRights10/02/20 10:28 PM
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I've had this account for a while only because I used it to ask some tech questions for work. I have only started really using reddit like... a week ago and am exploring :D Hence this post.
/r/MensRights10/02/20 10:17 PM
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I'm from Slovenia actually.
/r/MensRights10/02/20 10:14 PM
1

I mean we need children. I don't want them but I want others to raise them as best as they can because kids are innocent and deserve the best. Even from a selfish standpoint, we need someone to take care of us when we get old and I want them to be the best people possible.
/r/MensRights10/02/20 10:11 PM
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I've noticed there is quite a cultural difference here because where I live there are hardly any stay at home mothers and we have some of the most equal pay. So for me, both parents having equally hard jobs is normal. I can imagine it's hard to balance when women stay home more. We also work less I think than in the US so both can, if they want, spend time with their child. And a lot of men do but I find that it still falls more on women, which I don't think it's good for anyone. My father was a…
/r/MensRights10/02/20 10:09 PM
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I don't know about reddit but in my circles this is what most of us believe. I do know that there are extremist feminist circles and yes, I have been banned there. But every group has extremists, I'm also an animal lover and there are a bunch of vegan crazzies there as well. My best friends is a psychologist and there are A LOT of lost and messed up people. So when they latch on to an ideology they take it to the extreme, yell the loudest and unfortunatelly ruin the... PR of the idea (don't know…
/r/MensRights10/02/20 09:59 PM
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I find that very sad. I think both parents should be home for the same amount of time. It's good for the father because he gets to bond with his child, mother because she isn't stuck alone with a baby for forever, the baby gets better care and single women won't get passed over for job opportunities as much because we'll all have the same "stakes".
/r/MensRights10/02/20 09:52 PM
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Well I am not from the US so I don't know what goes on there but I am here as a feminist, I am part of a small political party that wants to disrupt how things are done. I can't speak for people I don't know but I do know me and my feminist friends care about any person's suffering. My best friend works in healthcare as a psychologist and has good insight in to gender specific issues. I don't organise ralies but want to directly influence policies, where all sexism issues should be considered.
/r/MensRights10/02/20 09:49 PM
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Thank you, I was scared to post but I'm very happy with a lot of the replies. It confirms my suspicions that some of us have very similar ideas and that there is so much resentment based on misunderstanding. I have also realised that there are a lot of cultural diferences that explain why there is so much more hostility in "the west".
/r/MensRights10/02/20 09:41 PM
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I fully agree with the male rape victims. Rape is rape and it doesn't matter what gender the victim is. We should all be working together to dispell the stigma around it. I was shocked when I found out circumcision is a regular thing in the US. I think it's just insane tu mutilate boys like that. And having only men with foreskin all my life I couldn't believe the myths about it I've read.
/r/MensRights10/02/20 09:27 PM
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I'm so sorry about that. It must be much worse in the US if that's where you're from. I don't want kids myself but I think we as a society we owe children the best we can give. It's just not in anyone's interest to have parents who work like crazy and can't spend enough time with their family.
/r/MensRights10/02/20 09:22 PM
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This is a very good explanation and I think a lot of us have very similar goals. I literally wrote a really long reply and explained how but my phone died and it didn't get saved - _-. So in short, there are a few cultural diferences but in general our views are very allined. We have no draft laws but if there were I would want women to have to serve as well, we don't have many stay at home moms so women usually are the ones expected to work all day and care for the family, I think children shou…
/r/MensRights10/02/20 09:17 PM
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I'm sorry that is how you see it. There is a lot of sensationalism which is why, like I said, I believe there is missunderstanding on both ends. I believe as with all ideologies you have extremists who are the loudest and people unfortunately think that represents the group. After that we tend to see that group as the enemy and see everything through that perception. I can see a lot of feminist concepts get wildly misinterpreted and the same goes for what happens in many mainstream feminist grou…
/r/MensRights10/02/20 02:58 PM
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I believe children should if at all possible be with both parents. If they can not, they should be with the parent that is the best for them regardless of gender. Having men more involved in parenting would in general be a win for everyone. I think where a lot of hate comes from on this topic (personal experience) is that we tend to get to involved with defending the parent of our gender, that the children don't take priority. I've seen bad mothers get children they shouldn't and bad fathers bla…
/r/MensRights10/02/20 02:53 PM
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I have a theory that as with feminism, there are extremists and people who want to make the world better for others. So I don't think speaking for everybody is fair and I sincerely hope most people here don't share this view. But thank you for your input.
/r/MensRights10/02/20 02:45 PM
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It's absolutely not. If people want to do it, as long as it's a choice and they don't get stuck, they're free to do so. But it's certainly not a privilege for most.
/r/MensRights09/02/20 01:17 PM
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