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Agreed. This is why it’s silly when men complain about child support - don’t have sex if you can’t face the consequences. Celibacy is an option.
/r/MGTOW09/11/17 12:07 PM
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Weird. I'm a woman and I've never felt threatened by porn. In my adult life, I've never had problems finding guys who want to have sex with and/or date me.
/r/MensRights23/12/14 05:33 PM
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Not all rape is forcible, and definitely not all rape shows signs of forcible penetration. Raping an unconscious or asleep woman is not forcible but is still rape. Raping a woman who is saying "no" but is not fighting you off is still rape even though there wouldn't be any signs of forcible penetration.
/r/MensRights01/10/14 08:16 PM
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That's actually not true in the slightest. Weight loss is calories in minus calories out. If you eat 4000 calories a day in bacon, peanut butter and avocado, you're still going to be fat. If you eat 1200 calories a day in rice and beans, you're not going to get fat. And even if you were right, the aforementioned single cheeseburger and small fries still has nearly three times as many carbs as the highest calorie Wendy's salad and dressing.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 05:53 PM
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Bullshit detected. A single quarter-pounder cheeseburger with a small fry is more caloric than the highest-calorie salad with the highest-calorie salad dressing. Guess those women aren't so vapid after all, hmm?
/r/MensRights27/04/14 11:21 PM
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...Literally what are you talking about? Where did I mention harassment in my posts? Where did I say that men hitting on women is predatory and threatening? Did you actually read my posts or do you just want to make things up to make yourself upset?
/r/MensRights27/04/14 06:38 PM
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And the post I responded to was saying that women who go to a bar without their husbands are playing hard to get. No where did I even mention harassment.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 06:07 PM
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Uh, I never said that was sexual harassment? Why are you putting words in my mouth?
/r/MensRights27/04/14 05:40 PM
1

Or how about the fact that people go out to bars for reasons other than getting hit on?
/r/MensRights27/04/14 05:16 PM
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So are men who go to the bars without their wives also playing hard to get?
/r/MensRights27/04/14 05:00 PM
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Wait, hold on, women shouldn't be allowed to go to bars or clubs without their husbands or else they're playing hard to get?
/r/MensRights27/04/14 01:07 PM
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Yes, the study says that intentionally brushing up against someone in a sexual way is sexual harassment. Do you disagree with that?
/r/MensRights27/04/14 12:52 PM
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What about people who are neither XX nor XY?
/r/MensRights27/04/14 12:42 PM
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I never said that every single hair place on the planet charges more for women. I said it's a general trend.
/r/MensRights21/04/14 08:43 PM
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Anecdotal evidence of one place isn't data.
/r/MensRights19/04/14 09:53 PM
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So because one barber shop charges the same for men and women, they all do. Right.
/r/MensRights19/04/14 03:55 PM
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Go to (or hell, just call up) any hair salon and ask how much it would it would cost for you to get a buzz cut. Then ask how much it would cost for your sister/girlfriend/whatever to get a buzz cut. Let me now what they say.
/r/MensRights16/04/14 03:47 PM
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Actually, that is how it works. Women do have to pay more to get a buzz cut than you do. Haircuts are charged as "men" and "women," not "long hair" and "short hair."
/r/MensRights15/04/14 10:32 PM
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Women don't receive child support without explicitly requesting it either. There are many many ex-couples (in fact, the majority) who make their custody arrangements outside of court, and many a time, child support isn't part of the picture at all.
/r/MensRights07/04/14 02:53 PM
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No, they don't. They still have to pay child support.
/r/MensRights06/04/14 04:49 PM
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Source?
/r/MensRights25/02/14 07:25 PM
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Lol, what? I can't fit my wallet in my pocket. No women can. Women's pants aren't designed that way.
/r/MensRights20/02/14 04:08 PM
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Not really sure why you're reponding to a comment that's two months old. I don't even remember what we're talking about.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 10:28 PM
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Reported to the mods for harassment. If you continue stalking my post history to comment on everything I've said, I will report you to the reddit admins.
/r/MensRights14/01/14 03:04 AM
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You know this is not /r/TheRedPill, right?
/r/MensRights13/01/14 03:09 PM
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Where does she have a double chin?
/r/MensRights13/01/14 04:26 AM
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How do you know she's overweight?
/r/MensRights13/01/14 04:05 AM
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Yeah, probably because no one pressed charges against them. This isn't a conspiracy.
/r/MensRights08/01/14 01:45 PM
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I'm not talking about him, I'm talking about Sarah Jones.
/r/MensRights10/12/13 06:38 PM
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What are you talking about? The boy was 17 when the sex first occurred.
/r/MensRights10/12/13 06:32 AM
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So if she had sex with him less than a year later it would be okay?
/r/MensRights10/12/13 04:23 AM
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...Because it's not rape?
/r/MensRights10/12/13 04:22 AM
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So you spoke your opinion that she is a dirty fucking whore. Good job.
/r/MensRights10/12/13 01:01 AM
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Except these men chose to marry their teachers after they became adults.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 11:14 PM
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So you didn't actually say: It is the opinion of this poster that she is a dirty fucking whore who I feel contributes nothing and whom I intuit might better serve the world as fertilizer or food for dogs. YMMV.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 10:38 PM
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So all men are children who are not responsible for their actions? If a man chooses to marry a woman who he had sex with when he was underage, he can't actually love the woman, he must be a perpetual child who is actually a victim?
/r/MensRights09/12/13 10:13 PM
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No, I'm asking if you think men who have consensual sex with 16-year-olds are dirty whores who deserve to get fed to dogs. Do you?
/r/MensRights09/12/13 10:09 PM
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I did. Where did I say she was a dirty whore? Are you confusing me with yourself??
/r/MensRights09/12/13 09:25 PM
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Oh, so it was part of the plea deal. That's why.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 09:14 PM
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Where did I say that?
/r/MensRights09/12/13 09:13 PM
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So would you say the same of a man who has sex with a consenting 17 year old who then gets engaged to their "victim" afterward?
/r/MensRights09/12/13 08:48 PM
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So how do you know for sure she has not registered as a sex offender?
/r/MensRights09/12/13 08:47 PM
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No, I think neither should be considered rapists of predators.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 08:09 PM
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I understand that, but having consensual sex with a 17-year-old boy is not child molestation.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 08:08 PM
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Then how was I libelous?
/r/MensRights09/12/13 08:07 PM
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And what are sex offender registry laws? Do you know who is required to be put on the registry?
/r/MensRights09/12/13 08:06 PM
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But shouldn't the sex offender registry be reserved for those who harm others? Who did this teacher harm?
/r/MensRights09/12/13 08:02 PM
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Wait, so female teachers who have consensual sex with their students are dirty whores who deserve to be fed to dogs, but male teachers who do the same thing aren't?
/r/MensRights09/12/13 08:00 PM
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Wait, so you do think it's okay for a male teacher to do the same thing Sarah Jones did?
/r/MensRights09/12/13 07:51 PM
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But why should she be registered as a sex offender? Who did she hurt? And how does the law define her as a "rapist"?
/r/MensRights09/12/13 07:51 PM
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She was convicted for having sex with a student, which is sexual abuse in the first degree.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 07:50 PM
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So you think she is a rapist even though they are now getting married? She should be a registered sex offender even though she is now engaged to her only "victim"? Who, exactly, did she hurt in this situation?
/r/MensRights09/12/13 07:48 PM
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Do you have any examples of this?
/r/MensRights09/12/13 07:39 PM
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No, you should use accurate terminology instead of trying to paint this woman as a child molester for having consensual sex with a student above the age of consent.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 07:35 PM
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She's a dirty whore because she had consensual sex with a student above the age of consent? Are male teachers who have consensual sex with their students above the age of consent also dirty whores who deserve to be fed to dogs?
/r/MensRights09/12/13 07:31 PM
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She wasn't convicted for child molestation. She was convicted for having sex with a student at the school she teaches at.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 07:26 PM
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She actually neither raped nor molested him. Her crime was not having sex with an underage boy, it was having sex with a student. Her and her "rape victim," as you put it, are getting married now.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 07:20 PM
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I'm curious as to why MensRights thinks she "molested" a child. She had sex with a 17 year old who is above the age of consent and they're now getting married. Not rape.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 07:16 PM
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I disagree, but at least you are consistent. I think men and women should pay the same for insurance. Many MRAs unfortunately believe that men and women should pay the same for car insurance, but not health insurance, which is hypocritical.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 01:45 AM
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Um, exactly? That's why you double up on birth control methods. Women take the pill, men wear condoms. Now you're protected.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 12:02 AM
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It seems as though you are offering absurd solutions solely because you are getting proven wrong. Women should be responsible for their birth control, and men should be responsible for theirs. How is this hard to understand?
/r/MensRights26/11/13 12:02 AM
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You keep avoiding this question, oddly enough. Do you believe men and women should pay the same for car insurance, even though men cost car insurance companies more on the whole?
/r/MensRights26/11/13 12:00 AM
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Do you also agree that men should not have the right to attend college in another state while his girlfriend is pregnant?
/r/MensRights24/11/13 09:36 PM
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But remember. Men's rights is not a misogynist movement.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 09:34 PM
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It looks as though you're deliberately twisting my words. Women are already responsible for birth control methods other than condoms, such as the pill/patch/IUD/etc., so men should be responsible for condoms.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 09:34 PM
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So do you believe that men and women should pay the same for car insurance?
/r/MensRights24/11/13 09:33 PM
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Wait, so you agree men shouldn't pay more for car insurance just because they're men, but you believe women should pay more for health insurance just because they're women? Sounds like hypocrisy to me.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 03:11 PM
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Someone who gets into a ton of car accidents should definitely pay more in insurance than someone who doesn't. But someone shouldn't pay more in insurance just because they're a man. How is this hard to understand?
/r/MensRights21/11/13 09:33 PM
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Women don't have body issues? When men make up 90% of anorexia and bulimia sufferers like women do today, you have no right to say "men are the ones with body issues!!!!1!1"
/r/MensRights21/11/13 08:10 PM
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Women are already responsible for birth control. Men should be able to be adult enough to buy a pack of condoms.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 08:09 PM
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I don't see a problem with this. Do you think men and women should pay the same amount for car insurance?
/r/MensRights21/11/13 08:08 PM
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They don't pay more. They pay the same.
/r/MensRights19/11/13 08:59 PM
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So why don't you volunteer or start your own crisis hotline? I'm not really sure what you're complaining about here.
/r/MensRights19/11/13 02:49 PM
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I don't think you're understanding what's going on here. The OP originally asked if penises or vaginas are more likely to spread STD's. I said penises, because it's true. It doesn't matter where the penises get STD's from - the fact of the matter is that penises spread more STD's than vaginas.
/r/MensRights18/11/13 10:52 PM
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I guess you say the same anytime someone in this sub talks about how feminism is a hate movement, right?
/r/MensRights17/11/13 10:05 PM
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32 upvotes to an article telling women that they should thank their street harassers. But remember, the MRM is not a hate movement!
/r/MensRights17/11/13 08:34 PM
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This is great news. Men and women should pay the same for health insurance.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 08:33 PM
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Source?
/r/MensRights15/11/13 03:39 PM
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Can I get a link?
/r/MensRights15/11/13 12:18 AM
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Source?
/r/MensRights14/11/13 06:22 AM
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You can't force a man to do something he doesn't want to do. If he doesn't want to eat you out or do the positions you want to get off, you can't make him, and you have no way of knowing beforehand if he's going to be shit in bed or not, and if he is, you're shit out of luck. Although, if I get into bed with a guy who doesn't want to go down on me, I put my clothes on and walk out/kick him out. I've done it before and I'll do it again.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 05:36 PM
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Shouldn't sex be about mutual pleasure between two people?
/r/MensRights13/11/13 04:28 PM
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Exactly. That's why men should pay more for car insurance as well. Women shouldn't be charged more for men's bad driving.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 02:44 PM
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Exactly. Men should also pay more for car insurance since they cost insurance companies more.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 02:43 PM
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Last three hookups I had, I put in 100% of the effort in getting the guy. Should I have gotten 100% of the pleasure?
/r/MensRights13/11/13 02:33 PM
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The last three casual hookups I had, I put in 100% of the effort in hooking up with the guy. Should I have gotten 100% of the pleasure?
/r/MensRights13/11/13 02:32 PM
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How?
/r/MensRights08/11/13 08:58 PM
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You can deny what you said all you want, but your posts are still there.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 04:43 PM
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I'm saying that you're significantly more likely to get a STD from having sex with a man than you are a woman.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 04:41 PM
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Penises spread significantly more STD's than vaginas.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 09:35 PM
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Logic<sup>TM</sup> and Science<sup>TM</sup> - that's what the MRM is about!
/r/MensRights07/11/13 08:48 PM
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How were they unrelated?
/r/MensRights07/11/13 07:47 PM
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I understand you're getting upset but, once again, making childish insults just makes you look bad :/
/r/MensRights07/11/13 12:09 AM
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But I sent you the quotes. Are you saying they're just in my head?
/r/MensRights07/11/13 12:09 AM
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No, I don't think I'm having a private conversation on an Internet forum. I'm saying if I'm having a discussion with someone, and you butt in to the conversation defending what he said, I'm going to assume you're agreeing with what he's saying. This shouldn't be confusing. This is common sense. I have no idea where "having the right to disagree with me" comes into play. I understand you're getting frustrated, but there's no need to make things up or use childish insults.
/r/MensRights02/11/13 10:25 PM
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Wait, so you're saying I made up your quotes? You said them. You can't take it back.
/r/MensRights02/11/13 10:23 PM
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Then why are you even bringing this up? Why would you butt into a conversation halfway through with your own opinions that have nothing to do with what the conversation was talking about? Of course if you come into a conversation halfway and start defending what the other person said, I'm going to assume you agree with what the other person said. This is common sense.
/r/MensRights01/11/13 05:24 PM
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Here are your original quotes about women experiencing reproductive coercion. So >15% of women are mentally handicapped, so what? You can't really "spoof" birth control easily let alone safely, a condom requires a pin and that's it. Women who think that they had their contraceptives sabotaged are probably rather stupid I said: Yes, you did say that women who experience reproductive coercion are mentally handicapped. Are you lying about your own posts now? This is reddit, buddy. Your posts are pu…
/r/MensRights01/11/13 05:23 PM
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Are you high? Yes, I brought it up before. I pointed out several times that you said women who are victims of reproductive coercion are mentally handicapped. You then lied and claimed you never said that. Now you're going back and saying you really did say that. It's a very common tactic in people who are upset at being proven wrong - they resort to personal insults and lies to try to save face. It's not working, buddy.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 09:55 PM
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I'm not sure if you understand which comments you're replying to, but I was specifically talking to Pecanpig, who thinks that women should not be allowed to undergo abortions, but men should be able to undergo financial abortions and not pay for any of the pregnancy costs. Do you or do you not agree with those statements? I don't see the point in arguing with you otherwise, as you jumped into the middle of a discussion I was having with another person and are trying to argue against me without k…
/r/MensRights30/10/13 05:29 PM
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It looks like you conveniently forgot this post. http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1pd01o/whats_rmensrightss_opinion_on_abortion/cd2ftlq
/r/MensRights30/10/13 05:27 PM
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Yes, you did say that women who experience reproductive coercion are mentally handicapped. Are you lying about your own posts now? This is reddit, buddy. Your posts are public. We can all see them.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 04:31 PM
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So you believe that if women get pregnant, they should not be allowed to have an abortion, and they should be forced to pay for all pregnancy costs, while the man should not be obligated to pay for child support or for the pregnancy?
/r/MensRights30/10/13 04:31 PM
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Just so we're clear here, we're talking about a situation in which abortion is illegal. Do you agree that if abortion is illegal, men should be legally obligated to pay for half of all pregnancy, childbirth, and maternity costs?
/r/MensRights30/10/13 03:49 PM
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But you don't want to treat women equally. You just said that women who experience reproductive coercion are mentally handicapped, and that men who experience reproductive coercion are victims of a terrible crime.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 03:47 PM
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Source that birth control is free at planned parenthood for everybody? And you basically just admitted that you're a misogynist. But this is not news for /r/mensrights. It's a misogynist sub full of "woman bad, man victim of evil woman!" mentalities.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 02:50 PM
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But that doesn't negate the costs of pregnancy, pre natal care, childbirth, maternity clothing, and lost wages due to pregnancy.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 02:49 PM
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Men can't say no to sex? Why not? Are they unable to act like adults and sleep for themselves? So women who get their birth control sabotaged are mentally handicapped, and men who get their birth control sabotaged are poor helpless victims? Sounds like someone is a misogynist. Yes, condoms are available for free at any Planned Parenthood. You seem to be ignoring the parts of my comments that prove you wrong, as if ignoring it makes you less wrong. And in the US, birth control is not subsidized.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 11:31 PM
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So, I see you don't have any sources to back your claims up. That makes sense, because they're wrong. Second of all, condoms don't require the permission of the woman to use any more than birth control pills do. A man can say "I won't have sex with you if you are on birth control" just as easily as a woman can say "I won't have sex with you if you are wearing a condom." Birth control pills can also be sabotaged. In fact, 15% of women report this. Condoms actually are free at any Planned Parentho…
/r/MensRights29/10/13 06:41 PM
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Source that birth control fails less than a thousandth of the time? Also, men can choose to use condoms.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 01:48 PM
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First of all, contraceptives fail. Second of all, I fail to see how this discussion is relevant, because regardless of whether or not contraceptives are used, you still think that men should be able to walk away from a pregnancy with no obligation to the child or even to the pregnancy, while women are forced to spend tens of thousands of dollars on the pregnancy. This is regardless of whether or not contraceptives are used. Why should a woman be punished for not using contraceptives, but men sho…
/r/MensRights28/10/13 07:49 PM
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Once again, you think that women should be told "don't want to deal with pregnancy? Don't have sex!" but that men should be able to have completely consequence-free sex.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 07:30 PM
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Where am I lying? You stated flat out that you don't think women should be allowed to get abortions but that men should be allowed to get financial abortions. You then stated flat out that even though women have no choice in whether or not they get pregnant, they should be required to shoulder all costs of a pregnancy, while men should be allowed to opt out of that. How is this a lie?
/r/MensRights28/10/13 07:14 PM
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But you don't agree with that. You already stated that you think women should not be allowed to get abortions and that they should shoulder all costs for a pregnancy they did not choose to go through, while you think men should be allowed to get financial abortions and not pay for any of the pregnancy costs for the women they impregnate. How is this equality? If you can't have a reasonable discussion, that's one thing; I have come to expect no reasonable discussion from this subreddit. However, …
/r/MensRights28/10/13 06:09 PM
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Okay, so you think men should be able to have consequence-free sex, but women should not? Also, you have been reported for harassment.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 05:56 PM
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First of all, what is that choice, if abortion is not available? Second of all, please stop the childish insults. I understand that you're getting frustrated, but using personal attacks isn't going to get your point across.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 05:43 PM
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And what "logical trap" was that? If by "logical trap" you mean "using logic to prove his hypocrisy," then yes, I guess you could say I used a "logical trap."
/r/MensRights28/10/13 05:29 PM
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Another question - since you think abortion should be illegal, do you think men should be legally required to pay for half of all pregnancy and childbirth costs (prenatal care, childbirth, maternity clothing, lost wages due to being unable to work, etc.)? After all, if women don't have a choice in whether or not they go through with a pregnancy, the man and the woman should have equal responsibility in costs associated with that pregnancy.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 05:24 PM
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Well, I got confused because the person I originally replied to was arguing that women shouldn't be allowed to get abortions, but men should be allowed to get financial abortions.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 05:20 PM
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So you also believe that men should be allowed to get financial abortions, but women shouldn't be allowed to get abortions?
/r/MensRights28/10/13 05:00 PM
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But men can't have children without a woman's permission because they're not the ones who get pregnant. So what you're saying is that women shouldn't be allowed to get abortions, but men should be allowed to get financial abortions. That's sexist.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 04:58 PM
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But that's besides the point. The symptoms for panic attacks and heart attacks are strikingly similar. In fact, 25% of people who go to the ER because they think they're having a heart attack are actually having a panic attack. So far, I haven't been able to see anyone adequately explain how to differentiate between heart attack symptoms and panic attack symptoms, especially when panic attacks and heart attacks are both so common.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 03:29 PM
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But shouldn't women have the same rights as men?
/r/MensRights28/10/13 03:26 PM
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But you just said you're against abortion, but you also support male financial abortion.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 02:48 PM
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So you think women shouldn't be allowed to opt out of financial responsibility for the child ever, but men should in some circumstances?
/r/MensRights28/10/13 02:24 PM
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I don't understand how anyone is supposed to tell the difference between a heart attack and a panic attack. As someone with panic disorder, this worries me.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 01:45 PM
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Do you believe men should have the right to opt out of financially supporting the child?
/r/MensRights28/10/13 01:40 PM
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Interesting how out of the original post, you didn't decide to include any images of female soldiers facing hardships because that wouldn't fit in with your "woman privileged, man victim" narrative.
/r/MensRights23/10/13 06:05 PM
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Sure do. Women are routinely charged more for the same health care coverage as men, and that's not even taking maternity care into account. http://www.nwlc.org/press-release/new-nwlc-report-discriminatory-health-insurance-practices-cost-women-1-billion-year
/r/MensRights14/10/13 11:07 PM
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How do women get cheaper healthcare? Last time I checked, women pay billions more dollars in health care per year than men.
/r/MensRights14/10/13 05:03 PM
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Not sure what you're talking about. In my source, women were 45.4% of residents in 2012, compared to 21.5% in 1980. In 2011, women earned 57.1% of all MD degrees, compared to 4.1% in 1940. This definitely seems to be significant progress. Even in the graph you sent me, more and more women are obtaining STEM degrees each year except for computer science.
/r/MensRights09/10/13 06:58 PM
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It hasn't made a dent? I wouldn't say so. Women are making up a larger and larger percent of med students/residents and doctors than ever before. http://www.catalyst.org/knowledge/women-medicine
/r/MensRights09/10/13 02:32 PM
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Now you're putting words in the author's mouth. She does not say anything about oral sex or long-term relationships with sleep-sex previously consented to. The quote is "Perhaps this is too much information but, for me, sex is my favorite way to wake up. Men have every right to believe that a woman sleeping in the bed next to them is going to be happily awoken. If you don’t want sex, don’t sleep in their fucking bed. We are not children here."
/r/MensRights07/10/13 08:10 PM
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No, because that's consent. But that's clearly not what you or the author of the article were talking about, considering you're saying it's reasonable to assume consent with a person sleeping in bed with you who you've had sex with before.
/r/MensRights07/10/13 07:06 PM
6

Um, what? Consent is not "yes until otherwise stated." It is "no until otherwise stated." I have told my boyfriend that if he has sex with me while I'm sleeping, it's rape. Because it is. This does not make me have "mental issues." In fact, it's the law.
/r/MensRights07/10/13 05:28 PM
2

So just so we're clear here, you are stating that having sex with a person who is sleeping in your bed is not rape?
/r/MensRights07/10/13 02:39 PM
1

Um, yes? No person of either gender is entitled to their ex-spouse's stuff.
/r/MensRights30/09/13 02:31 PM
1

Why does it matter who is victim blaming? Why is everyone getting caught up on who is blaming the victim? Victim-blaming is wrong, no matter the gender.
/r/MensRights30/09/13 02:30 PM
3

I'm confused as to why you feel personally offended by this. Those stickers were gender neutral, so why do you feel like they were attacking men?
/r/MensRights28/09/13 10:01 PM
2

Tons of those posts are posted by men's rights regulars, and even if they weren't, they were still upvoted in this sub. MRA's definitely have a lot to say about hypergamy.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 02:29 PM
1

Where does hypergamy specify that one marries just for the money?
/r/MensRights16/09/13 01:41 AM
2

It's funny how you just admitted it's okay to call women prostitutes for not being sexually attracted to poor men, but it's not okay to call men racist for not being sexually attracted to black chicks.
/r/MensRights15/09/13 04:07 PM
1

But this sub does police women's choices. http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/search?q=Hypergamy+&sort=top&restrict_sr=on&t=all
/r/MensRights15/09/13 04:02 PM
2

Really, because this sub has a lot to say about women's sexual and relationship choices. http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/search?q=Hypergamy+&sort=top&restrict_sr=on&t=all
/r/MensRights15/09/13 04:00 PM
-10

I don't really understand how MRA's can upvote this comic, but then decry the "hypergamous nature" of women. Seems like cognitive dissonance to me. And here the downvotes come without explanation. Can someone explain to me why it's okay to police women's sexual choices, but it's not okay to police men's?
/r/MensRights14/09/13 05:32 PM
3

First of all, no, the OP said that anytime there is three girls and 1 guy, the 1 guy is toast. That's not true, because in Vanuatu, there were 6 girls and 1 guy and the guy won. Second of all, you keep saying that as a general rule, girls team up and vote out the guys. Since you believe this, do you have any proof to back up this claim? Which seasons and alliances? Third of all, no, the women's tribe dominated the pre-merge challenges 5-3.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 02:46 PM
2

How is this misandry? Chelsea Manning is a woman.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 01:31 PM
2

Yes, because the women dominated in the pre-merge challenges, meaning that there would be more women and less men at the merge. That doesn't change the fact that the person who said "if there are 3 women and 1 man, the one man will always get voted out" was wrong. It also doesn't explain what's wrong with the strategy of women voting out men.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 01:29 PM
1

First of all, what seasons are these? Second of all, men have done the exact same thing. Third of all, what's wrong with that? Backstabbing is part of Survivor. In fact, if you are in an alliance of more than three people, it is literally impossible to not backstab them to get to the end.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 01:23 PM
-2

So women being denied access to abortion is equality, and abortion is inequality?
/r/MensRights31/08/13 11:11 PM
1

First of all, unless I'm forgetting one, only in two out of 26 seasons (Micronesia and One World) has an all-female alliance made it to the final 4. Care to explain this "pattern" you keep seeing where women continually form all-women alliances, vote out all the men, and make it to the end? Which seasons, other than the ones I mentioned, form this "pattern" you speak of? Second of all, even if women do form alliances, how is this a problem? Men also form all-men alliances. Minorities sometimes t…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 09:42 PM
1

I did give an example. The entire season of Survivor Vanuatu. Final 7 was 6 women and 1 men. The women self destructed their all female alliance, and the lone man ended up winning. This is literally the exact opposite of what the person I was responding to originally said. My post, while factually accurate, was down voted because it doesn't fit the anti-woman narrative around here.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 06:32 PM
-1

Wait, how is abortion inequality between the sexes? Are you saying men should have a legal say in abortion?
/r/MensRights31/08/13 06:29 PM
-11

You've clearly never seen Survivor Vanuatu if you honestly believe that to be the case. And, surprise surprise, down voted to -7 by people who haven't actually seen Survivor but want to buy into the "girls always stick together and vote out guys, while guys never do the same" narrative. No explanation for the down votes, zero replies to my comment, just down votes by people who want to shit on women for absolutely no reason. That's men's rights for you. Feels over facts.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 03:07 AM
1

Anytime unwanted sexual touching occurs, it is sexual assault. Legally, it is. You can't touch another person's body without consent and say it's not sexual assault.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 12:50 AM
2

If you feel violated by them and want to press charges, you certainly should, because it is most certainly sexual assault. If you don't have a problem with it, then don't do anything about it. This isn't hard to understand.
/r/MensRights25/08/13 06:09 PM
9

Really? What stats claim that all women in the military are or have been brutally raped? Just because getting your butt grabbed isn't as bad as rape doesn't mean it's not sexual assault.
/r/MensRights24/08/13 11:43 PM
6

I hope you are a troll.
/r/MensRights24/08/13 11:42 PM
19

Getting your butt grabbed is sexual assault.
/r/MensRights24/08/13 10:16 PM
1

So you're saying you would be happy with such a girlfriend?
/r/MensRights06/08/13 04:30 PM
1

So would you be satisfied with a girlfriend who never gave you blow jobs (even though you ate her out 3 times a day), never made you orgasm (even though she came every time), and refused to do any position other than you on top?
/r/MensRights06/08/13 04:25 PM
1

Um, if you haven't been following my posts, I have said probably 5-10 times now that she should not force him to give her head, and that she should break up with him. Where are you getting this other information from to make you think I've said otherwise?
/r/MensRights31/07/13 12:04 PM
1

No, you yourself said "I'm not saying he's not a douche," and now you're going back and saying "you have no right to call him a douche!" Sorry buddy, but there is no reason here for you to defend this guy, and it's hypocritical for you to say "There's two sides to every story!" in this situation while not saying the same thing on the multitude of /r/mensrights threads that talk about women being shitty.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 12:08 PM
1

At this point, I can't tell if you're a troll or actually serious. You're going back and forth between "I'm not saying he's not a selfish douche!" and "You have no right to call him a selfish douche!" You're also being willfully ignorant by ignoring the parts of the post you don't like. This conversation is getting pretty childish at this point on your end.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 07:39 PM
1

As I have told you time and time again, I am not suggesting that OP forces oral sex on her boyfriend. I am suggesting she break up with him. Because he is, in fact, a selfish douche.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 06:06 PM
1

So would you be happy with a girlfriend who never gave you head (even though you give her head and get her off 3 times a day), never got you off, and refused to do any position other than missionary?
/r/MensRights29/07/13 04:59 PM
0

This is not a freaking court of law. It's reddit. We're not convicting someone of murder here. Personally, I don't think there is any "other side of the story" here. There's literally no excuse to put zero effort into making your partner cum. No excuse at all. There's no reason for him to refuse to do any position other than him lying there and her doing all the work. At worst, he's a selfish douche. At best, he has absolutely no idea how sex works, doesn't understand that sex should be about mu…
/r/MensRights29/07/13 12:27 PM
2

As I've said multiple times in this thread, it is not okay to force someone into giving you oral. I never said that. All you've done is linked to various comments in the thread. You don't know what the original post said and you don't know what the deleted comment said (you definitely don't know what the deleted comment said, because you thought OP wrote the deleted comment, when she didn't). All you're saying is that OP's boyfriend is not selfish, even though you have no idea if he's being self…
/r/MensRights27/07/13 06:34 PM
1

You didn't read the post. You don't know what's going on. First of all, if you had read the post, you would know that the quote in the title of the thread is a) from a commenter, not the OP as you claim, and b) is literally not a direct quote. The OP of this thread put it in quotes, but that's not what the post said. It's a direct lie.
/r/MensRights27/07/13 05:41 PM
1

So you're admitting you have absolutely no idea what the original post said, and you're making judgment calls on it? FYI the OP never said she forced her boyfriend to do sexual favors against her will. But I guess you can keep reading this sub's biased version of what happened.
/r/MensRights27/07/13 04:36 PM
1

So did you read the thread or no? How can you make a judgment call on whether or not he's being selfish if you didn't read the thread?
/r/MensRights27/07/13 01:48 PM
1

Nope.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 06:50 PM
1

It doesn't justify forcing him to give head. I don't know why you think I'm justifying it, especially since I explicitly stated that I don't believe he should be forced into giving head. I was responding to the person who said the guy wasn't being selfish. The guy was being extremely selfish, if you read the OP.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 03:19 PM
1

Well, that's your prerogative. I personally don't believe that anyone should be able to force medical procedures on rapists, whether it's an abortion or a vasectomy. Rapists still have bodily autonomy. There's a reason we don't force other medical procedures on rapists that would actually benefit the public, such as kidney transplants, etc.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 03:18 PM
1

No, it is her body. How can you say that removal of a fetus from a woman's body does not affect the woman's body in any way, shape, or form? If a woman dies from abortion, how was it not her body that's being affected? Second of all, why aren't you applying this same logic to all cases of abortion? "If she didn't want to get pregnant, she shouldn't've had sex"? Third of all, spermjacking is a terrible thing, but that doesn't mean you can go forcing abortions on women who spermjack. Just as you c…
/r/MensRights26/07/13 03:15 PM
1

Yeah, except it's her body. By that logic, women who spermjack men should be forced to have abortions as well.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 01:54 PM
0

I thought MRAs were about equality though? Equal rights, equal lefts. If you think men should be allowed to force medical procedures on their female rapists, I'm curious as to why you don't think it should be allowed with the genders reversed as well.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 01:23 PM
1

So you genuinely believe that female rapists should be forced to have abortions and male rapists should be forced to have vasectomies?
/r/MensRights26/07/13 01:12 PM
0

Why not? In both cases, someone is being forced into a medical procedure they don't want. What medical procedures should we be allowed to force on male rapists in the name of equality?
/r/MensRights26/07/13 12:57 PM
10

I did not say that he needs to "man the fuck up." I did not say she needs to "brow beat" him into performing oral. I'm saying she needs to break up with him because he's a selfish ass. He is not obligated to perform oral sex on her, just as she is not obligated to stay with a guy who obviously doesn't give a shit whether she's sexually satisfied or not.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 12:55 PM
5

If you actually read the post, you would realize her boyfriend is very very selfish. She needs to get out of that toxic relationship now. Personally, I would never in a million years date a man that doesn't give head.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 12:00 PM
0

So, why do female rapists lose the right to bodily autonomy but male rapists do not? Since you think men should be allowed to force certain medical procedures onto women, what kinds of medical procedures should women be allowed to force onto men?
/r/MensRights26/07/13 11:47 AM
0

So why do only male rapists get the right to bodily autonomy? Why do female rapists get this right taken away? What sorts of medical surgeries should we be able to force on male rapists? Equality works both ways. If you think that men should be allowed to force medical procedures on women, then women should be allowed to force medical procedures on men.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 11:46 AM
1

What?
/r/MensRights26/07/13 11:44 AM
1

Why are you getting into this? No rape victim should be forced to see their rapist regularly because the rapist has custody of their kid. That's ridiculous.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 11:43 AM
-6

Should a female rape victim be allowed to cut her rapist's penis off?
/r/MensRights25/07/13 09:59 PM
3

I don't think a parent is able to take care of their kids if they're a rapist. If a woman gets raped and has a kid, her rapist should not get half custody of the child. If a man gets raped and his rapist has a kid, his rapist should not get half custody of the child. That's messed up.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 09:37 PM
2

So are you saying you should be able to force your rapist to get an abortion?
/r/MensRights25/07/13 09:36 PM
2

Well, yeah, if a woman rapes a man and has a kid from it, he should get custody, but he should not be able to force her to get an abortion or prevent her from having one.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 07:02 PM
1

True, they may affect him, but what kind of legal "things" are you suggesting?
/r/MensRights25/07/13 04:03 PM
0

I'm not sure what you're getting at. Yes, a rapist should be allowed control over their own body. Whether they "benefit" from it or not is irrelevant. Second of all, this is not the same as stealing a baby and then sewing it to your body. Do you seriously think these two things are comparable? Getting an abortion vs. sewing a baby to your body?
/r/MensRights25/07/13 03:20 PM
-2

You are wrong in saying that no one has any right to force medical procedures on people Who is allowed to force medical procedures on anyone? and I think that at least there should be a more proper channel for the father to express his desires Such as? than the mother simply choosing to side with or against him. It's not about the mother choosing to side with or against him. It's about the woman's right to do what she wants with her body. Contrary to your belief, most women don't get abortions j…
/r/MensRights25/07/13 03:16 PM
6

Um, yes? Why would I agree with that?
/r/MensRights25/07/13 03:13 PM
-1

Well, it is her body. No one has the right to force medical procedures on anybody, and abortion is no different. So are you arguing that men should be able to veto abortions or no?
/r/MensRights25/07/13 02:50 PM
2

Yes. A rapist still has the right to bodily sovereignty, just like every other human being.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 02:49 PM
0

So are you stating that men should have a legal right to veto abortion, or what exactly are you getting at?
/r/MensRights25/07/13 02:26 PM
4

Because it's her body.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 02:02 PM
2

Got a source to back that second statement up?
/r/MensRights25/07/13 01:55 PM
2

Yeah, but your original post seems to be talking about abortion only, not parental surrender.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 01:54 PM
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And it should not be. Abortion is a woman's choice and should legally be 100% her decision.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 01:30 PM
3

Careful, buddy, this was how you got banned last time.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 07:31 PM
1

Where does that say women cheat more than men?
/r/MensRights11/07/13 06:58 PM
2

Source?
/r/MensRights11/07/13 12:25 PM
5

And how do you plan to prevent that from happening?
/r/MensRights26/06/13 12:07 PM
0

So you think that a rapist can be jailed if their rape victim is drunk, but not based on the testimony of that rape victim? Second of all, why are you bringing feminism into this? Who here is arguing that all people with cocks are rapists?
/r/MensRights23/05/13 06:03 PM
1

I'm concerned that you're saying that this rape did not occur in a dark alleyway with a stranger. Is that the only kind of rape that's "real" rape? Rape can't happen between two people who are drunk, or two people who know each other, or consent cannot be withdrawn during the act? Second of all, do you believe a rapist can be absolved of all crimes by apologizing after a rape?
/r/MensRights23/05/13 05:58 PM
1

Where in the original post does it say he didn't hear her? Your analogy only makes sense if that's the case.
/r/MensRights23/05/13 05:43 PM
1

Where does it say she whispered it? Please, point this out to me.
/r/MensRights23/05/13 05:41 PM
0

So then what's the problem with this health care issue? It's one step in the right direction. If you believe men should be paying the same amount for car insurance as women, why aren't you trying to change it? Why are you instead complaining that women and men pay the same amount for health insurance?
/r/MensRights23/05/13 05:39 PM
1

You think it's unreasonable to expect your partner to know what you mean when you say "stop"?
/r/MensRights23/05/13 05:37 PM
1

It goes both ways. No where here am I defending female rapists.
/r/MensRights23/05/13 05:35 PM
1

First of all, where do I hate conservatives? Second of all, how do you know the man who was convicted (if this is not a troll) had no malice? Apologizing after a rape doesn't mean you're not a rapist. If that were the case, anyone could get away with rape just by saying "Sorry about that" afterwards.
/r/MensRights23/05/13 05:30 PM
1

Well, fine, I can play your game too, if you want. You think I'm lying about not being a feminist? I think you're lying about not being a misogynist. See, two people can play the false accusation game.
/r/MensRights23/05/13 05:28 PM
1

Where is this supposed "hard science" that supports your claim that every drunk person can't tell the difference between ten seconds and one minute?
/r/MensRights23/05/13 05:27 PM
1

Where? I don't see any comment where I've thrown a childish insult at you. Can you point any of these comments out?
/r/MensRights23/05/13 05:26 PM
1

Where does science say that every drunk person cannot tell the difference between five seconds and one minute?
/r/MensRights23/05/13 05:25 PM
1

Science? Like what? "I think that she is wrong because she was drunk" is not science.
/r/MensRights23/05/13 05:24 PM
0

First of all, what "presumption of innocence"? The rapist in question was already proven guilty. Second of all, you still haven't answered my question: Do you believe no person should ever be convicted of rape if their victim was drunk?
/r/MensRights23/05/13 05:23 PM
0

And you're making blatant assumptions with literally no basis.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:56 PM
0

I have been drunk more times in my life than I could ever count. I have had sex borderline blacked out many a time before. It does not take a full minute to decipher that someone is saying "stop" during sex. Ever.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:56 PM
0

Where did I reply to you with childish and petty insults?
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:55 PM
0

As I've said before in this thread, unless you are literally brain-damaged, there is no way it could ever take up to a minute to decipher something. I have been drunk many a time before, blacked out many a time before, and there is no way it takes a whole minute to decipher a single word during sex. Especially if the person is distressed.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:54 PM
0

Why are you assuming that she didn't say "stop" or didn't say it loud enough? Clearly, if the story is true, the courts found the man guilty. How do you know he didn't confess that he heard her but didn't think he had to stop? Also, are you implying that rapists never apologize to their victims after? If I rape you and then say "lol sry about that," am I absolved of all responsibility and unable to be touched by the law for rape?
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:51 PM
1

And in each of the cases mentioned with your girlfriend, I'm assuming you stopped each time to let her adjust/take her birth control/etc., right? So why shouldn't this man have stopped when the woman told him to?
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:48 PM
1

So what is your suggestion? Making both unequal, or making both equal?
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:47 PM
0

I posted that quote to show that she said stop multiple times.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:45 PM
2

Or he pled guilty, which is a possibility that no one is considering for some reason.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:44 PM
0

So you think a sentence of 4 years is too long for someone who literally committed rape?
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:43 PM
2

Okay? I'm not really sure what your argument is here? I could toss around false accusations about you too if I wanted to, but I thought MRAs were against that?
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:42 PM
1

So just to confirm this, you truly believe that if a rape victim is drunk, their rapist should never be jailed?
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:41 PM
6

I mean, any rapist could use that excuse. "I didn't know she didn't want it, even though she told me to stop!"
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:40 PM
1

So can no drunk person ever be a rape victim? After all, if they just have a "lapse in memory" and only thought they said "no," can any drunk person be a victim of rape, by your logic?
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:39 PM
2

But I thought MRAs were of the belief that drunk sex is not rape?
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:32 PM
1

So you're saying we shouldn't teach people that "stop" means "stop" when it comes to consent. That's a pretty fucked up way of thinking, but it does seem typical that this is coming from an MRA.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:23 PM
0

And how do you know this? It's just a fact she wasn't raped because she was drunk?
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:18 PM
0

Even when hammered, it doesn't take you an entire minute to process a word. Unless you're so drunk you're unconscious or have alcohol poisoning, which this guy clearly didn't have.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:17 PM
0

What a well-thought-out, intelligent argument!
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:16 PM
0

How is it an utterly unrealistic attitude towards sex to think "stop" means "stop"? Second of all, the courts clearly thought it was sexual assault, or else he wouldn't be in jail. They clearly didn't think it was a misdemeanor.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:16 PM
1

I think his four year sentence is great. Anyway, why are you calling it a drunken misunderstanding? Clearly, the court thought it was rape as well. Because that's what it is: rape.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:12 PM
-1

So maybe we should reach people about consent and what rape is. You're arguing that people who say "stop" during sex don't really mean it and that "stop" is not an indicator of nonconsent, when it obviously is. You say people don't expect you to say "stop" during sex, therefore rape is all just a big miscommunication. Easy solution: teach people that continuing to have sex with someone when they have said "stop" is rape. Because it is.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 08:24 PM
-5

TIL anyone who disagrees with any MRA is a troll.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 08:22 PM
-2

What does this have to do with anything? It seems as though you've been proven wrong, so you're trying to derail and change the subject.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 08:22 PM
-1

She apparently only "thought" she said no because she was under the influence of alcohol. In other words, you think she literally hallucinated saying "stop." This is a joke.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 08:21 PM
-3

So I'm confused as to why you're bringing this up - if a rape victim is drunk, should their rapist never be jailed because the victim could be making it all up because they "incorrectly" remembered the event due to alcohol?
/r/MensRights20/05/13 08:19 PM
2

Like I just told you, I'm not a feminist, so you can stop with the false accusations. Second of all, evo psych is not a hard science, and the suggestion that it is is absolutely laughable. Hard sciences have hypotheses that you can test and prove. This is not possible with evo psych.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 08:18 PM
-2

First of all, I am not a feminist, so you can stop with your false accusations. Second of all, how is saying "stop" not an indicator of nonconsent? Seriously?
/r/MensRights20/05/13 08:17 PM
1

And where did I say that was okay?
/r/MensRights20/05/13 08:14 PM
-1

If "closed minded trolling" means "sex when one party says 'no' is rape," then no, I won't.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 08:14 PM
5

And how do you know he was not clearly informed when he heard her say stop?
/r/MensRights20/05/13 08:11 PM
-3

Do you think that he deserves this fate? If so, what is your adequate punishment for a real rapist(has sex with you without you ever want it, cums inside you and some time people get pregnant? This is what you said. Sorry, but only people with uteruses get pregnant. This is not hard to realize.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 06:54 PM
-7

TIL alcohol literally makes you hallucinate. Seriously, what will you come up with next?
/r/MensRights20/05/13 06:51 PM
0

This post is absolutely hilarious. I seriously can't tell if you're trolling or not. I feel like only a troll would claim that evo psych is a "hard science" with a straight face. Lmfao.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 06:47 PM
-4

So basically, "no" and "stop" are not enough when it comes to establishing consent. You have to literally be crying for it to be rape? What the fuck?
/r/MensRights20/05/13 06:45 PM
-8

He was clearly informed as soon as she said "stop," but he kept going anyway.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 06:44 PM
-1

So if you tell someone to stop and they keep going, it's not rape somehow? How is that not rape?
/r/MensRights20/05/13 06:38 PM
-6

Where in the post does it show any indication that he is deaf?
/r/MensRights20/05/13 06:37 PM
-11

Wait, so the only "real rapists" are people who cum inside women and get them pregnant? What the fuck.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 06:36 PM
-7

No, she clearly informed him that the sex was not consensual by telling him "stop." You're clearly trolling at this point.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 06:35 PM
-12

I wasn't into it from the start, and about 5 minutes in I ask him to stop. He didn't. This went on for about a minute until I started crying and freaking out. Does that make it any easier?
/r/MensRights20/05/13 06:34 PM
-6

Okay, sure, he stopped at the first visible sign, but not the first verbal sign. So that's still rape, is it not?
/r/MensRights20/05/13 06:25 PM
-8

Okay, so now, saying "stop" doesn't count as rape. What else doesn't count as rape? "No" doesn't count as rape?
/r/MensRights20/05/13 06:20 PM
-9

Wait, so you think you need a visible sign of distress, not just verbal? Telling someone "stop" isn't enough? "No" doesn't really mean "no"?
/r/MensRights20/05/13 06:19 PM
-7

No, he didn't stop at the first visible sign of distress. He kept going when she told him to stop.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 06:10 PM
-6

See, this is the problem. People don't know what rape is. If someone tells you to stop and you don't, it's rape. If someone tells you to stop multiple times and you don't, it's rape. In the scenario you provided in the beginning of your post, you genuinely believe that if someone tells you to stop multiple times, and you're aware that they're telling you to stop, and you don't stop, it isn't rape. What the fuck?
/r/MensRights20/05/13 06:02 PM
-11

"Nonconsensual sex" is rape. The OP for this thread admits that the girl was raped, but for some reason is expressing upset that her rapist is jailed.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 06:00 PM
-13

I wasn't into it from the start, and about 5 minutes in I ask him to stop. He didn't. This went on for about a minute until I started crying and freaking out.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 05:58 PM
-16

The way the post reads makes it clear that "this" refers to the cycle of her asking him to stop and him not stopping, not just him having sex. That being said, how is "stop" not a solid indicator of distress? Do you have to fuck a woman until she starts crying for it to be rape? No. "Stop" means "stop." Rape is rape whether it lasts one minute or ten.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 05:54 PM
-7

So, one minute is somehow not enough time to stop when your partner tells you to stop multiple times? You literally have to keep fucking her until she starts crying for it to be rape? How does that make any sense?
/r/MensRights20/05/13 05:44 PM
-12

I wasn't into it from the start, and about 5 minutes in I ask him to stop. He didn't. This went on for about a minute until I started crying and freaking out. Read the post.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 05:43 PM
-10

Yep. I wasn't into it from the start, and about 5 minutes in I ask him to stop. He didn't. This went on for about a minute until I started crying and freaking out.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 05:42 PM
-22

Did you purposefully ignore the sentence immediately following what you posted?
/r/MensRights20/05/13 05:32 PM
-19

She clearly stated that she told him to stop several times, and he didn't stop until she started crying. How is that not rape? Just because he eventually stopped doesn't make rape OK. All rape stops eventually.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 05:15 PM
-7

One of my main problems is that the OP in this thread admits it was rape, but still expresses upset over the fact that the rapist was jailed. That's pretty messed up IMO.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 05:14 PM
-15

But she said she told him to stop several times and he didn't. He only stopped when she started crying. The OP in this thread even admitted it was rape but for some reason assumes the rapist should go unpunished.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 05:12 PM
0

And in that statistic, what percentage of the fathers actually sought custody of the children instead of just letting the mother have custody?
/r/MensRights20/05/13 05:11 PM
1

I have heard of many a story where a man has taken off the condom during the act and the woman was completely unaware of it. It's difficult to actually see if a condom is on during the act from a woman's perspective.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 05:04 PM
1

Then why do so many MRAs advocate financial abortion? Also, "it's just simple logic" is not proof. I am looking for proof that most children who are fatherless are so because the mother kicks the father out of their life, rather than the father doesn't want to be in their life, as the person I was responding to originally claimed.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 05:03 PM
-11

When you commit a crime while drunk, you are still held accountable for that crime. Just because he was drunk doesn't mean it was legal to him to have sex with her when she kept saying "no."
/r/MensRights20/05/13 05:01 PM
-10

I don't get it. If you're having sex with someone and they tell you to stop, and you don't, how is it not rape? The comments in that thread sicken me. Hell, you even admitted it was rape. I don't get the confusion here.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 03:55 PM
-39

I don't get it. If you're having sex with someone and they tell you to stop, and you don't, how is it not rape? The comments in that thread sicken me.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 03:54 PM
-1

Assuming women are able to feel whether or not the man is wearing a condom. Hint: Most can't. In the same way, a man should be held at least partly responsible if he doesn't make sure a woman is taking her birth control properly, right?
/r/MensRights20/05/13 12:41 PM
0

The vast majority of fatherless homes are so because of the mother's choice. Source?
/r/MensRights20/05/13 12:36 PM
3

Strange how this sub was all for car insurance equality in the UK and mocked those who thought it was misogynist for men and women to pay the same for car insurance, but now that obamacare will make men and women pay the same for health insurance, it's suddenly misandry. That doesn't make much sense to me. I also fully expect to get downvoted without any explanation.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 02:31 PM
1

A quick google search brings up data for women orgasming from penetration. https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=percentage+of+women+who+orgasm+from+sex I am not denying that men who are circumcised may experience reduced pleasure, but saying that the frenulum and the clitoris are equivalent in terms of sexual pleasure is just plain wrong. As I just showed you, a small percentage of women are able to orgasm without clitoral stimulation, while all circumcised men can still experience org…
/r/MensRights10/04/13 11:30 PM
1

The fact that the internal erectile parts of the clitoris may start to externalize in FTM (without a visible glans penis) is not relevant to the fact that these structures started internal in women. What? Interal erectile parts of the clitoris do not begin to externalize. The external part just grows in size. And the majority of that organ ends up internal in females. Yet the sources I sent you all say that the clitoris is an erectile organ. You just said we can't trust self reports. You're righ…
/r/MensRights10/04/13 11:26 PM
1

Well, yeah, male and female motivations and neurochemistry are completely different, but no where in the article was there any source to what he claimed in particular.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 11:25 PM
3

Where is this evidence in the article? I don't see any.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 01:33 PM
4

...Do you honestly believe that article contains nothing but facts, and there is absolutely no misogyny or male supremacy in the article?
/r/MensRights10/04/13 01:32 PM
0

So do you agree that the article claims men are superior to women?
/r/MensRights10/04/13 01:31 PM
0

I am a woman and I've done this multiple times. Nothing external "swells". It most definitely does. Not to the extent that a male's penis does, obviously, but there is certainly some swelling. This is further supported by my point about FTM transgendered persons, which I noticed you conveniently ignored. In utero all fetuses start with a genital tubercle. My point is that the same organs that develop into a penis in males develop into a clitoris in females. You could say the same thing about you…
/r/MensRights08/04/13 06:25 PM
3

”The nobler and more perfect a thing is, the later and slower is it in reaching maturity. Man reaches the maturity of his reasoning and mental faculties scarcely before he is eight and twenty; woman when she is eighteen; but hers is a reason of very narrow limitations. This is why women remain children all their lives, for they always see only what is near at hand, cling to the present, take the appearance of a thing for reality, and prefer trifling things to the most important.” The difference …
/r/MensRights08/04/13 06:15 PM
1

Do this. Stimulate your clitoris and see if it gets bigger like the head of a penis. Have you gone down on a woman before? There is literally no denying that the clitoris swells the more you lick her. If that doesn't convince you, read this: Too bad every other source states otherwise. Because one gets erect and the other doesn't? In utero, all fetuses start out female; if the fetus develops into a male, the clitoris will grow into a penis. If the fetus continues to develop into a female, the cl…
/r/MensRights08/04/13 04:57 PM
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However, if you're talking about where people get the majority of their sexual pleasure, you are incorrect. Then why can only a small percentage of women orgasm without clitoral stimulation, but 100% of men can orgasm without their frenulum?
/r/MensRights08/04/13 04:28 PM
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Literally all of them talk about how men are superior to women.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 04:24 PM
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The clitoris on a woman is non-erectile tissue; How can you be a woman and not know that the clitoris is an erectile organ? how can non-erectile tissue in a woman be morphologically equivalent to erectile tissue on a man? It really shocks me how people can deny that the clitoris and the glans of the penis are not analogous organs. The real analogous structure is the male frenulum. Only a small percentage of women can orgasm without clitoral stimulation. 100% of men can orgasm without their frenu…
/r/MensRights08/04/13 04:24 PM
0

You're honestly saying /r/theredpill isn't about male supremacy? Have you read the "required reading" in the sidebar?
/r/MensRights08/04/13 01:52 PM
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But people don't think that is possible Actually, it looks like women think it's possible, but men don't.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 04:35 PM
1

In this case the girl was again the aggressor and expected to not be hit back (which she wasnt) Once again, you are leaving out the fact that the man made the first strike. He was the one who expected not to be hit back.
/r/MensRights23/03/13 09:20 PM
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The other was a man who got attacked by a group for defending himself against a woman. Nice editorializing there. The man was the one who made the first strike. but the woman in this situation is unscathed and instead horribly assaulted the victim. The male bus driver was also unscathed and instead horribly assaulted the woman.
/r/MensRights23/03/13 09:20 PM
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And the man was in no danger after he uppercutted the woman to the ground, yet the man still felt the need to drag and throw her body. Hm.
/r/MensRights23/03/13 09:19 PM
1

First of all, the bus was stopped, and yes, she instigated the attack. In this case, the man instigated the attack. For some reason, it is apparently okay for a man to defend himself from a woman, but it is not okay for a woman to defend herself from a man?
/r/MensRights23/03/13 09:18 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/11ghxs/petition_to_support_the_cleveland_bus_driver/ http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/11ek2i/bus_driver_decks_unruly_passenger_who_was/ http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/11etfv/tyt_defends_woman_who_first_assaults_a_male_bus/ http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/11po8l/cleveland_bus_driver_faces_assault_charge_woman/ Plenty of MRA's upvoting articles celebrating a man for fighting back against his attacker, but in this threa…
/r/MensRights23/03/13 05:02 PM
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Woman pushes man, man uppercuts her to the ground and drags her body around - totally acceptable, man was just defending himself Man pushes woman, woman stomps on man's testicles - stupid bitch/cunt, totally unacceptable Sounds like hypocrisy to me. EDIT: Does anyone care to explain the downvotes? I have called out a pretty big example of hypocrisy in the MRM, everyone apparently disagrees with me, yet no one wants to explain why. Hmm...
/r/MensRights23/03/13 02:32 PM
1

Women aren't guaranteed any of those things either.
/r/MensRights18/02/13 02:11 PM
0

But I haven't seen anyone get upset about a woman who feels wronged wishing she could beat up her boyfriend. Can you show me a link of that? Actually, the author of the article wasn't fantasizing about slitting women's throats and bashing their face in because he felt wronged. He was fantasizing about slitting women's throats and bashing their face in because they were unsatisfied with their sex life. "Nigger" and "faggot" are terms that insult someone because of who they are, not because of the…
/r/MensRights08/02/13 11:25 PM
2

So, the only way you would not vilify a woman for not being attracted to any man who wants to date her is if she gives him advice and actively tries to get him laid. What...
/r/MensRights08/02/13 11:10 PM
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How is it confusing? Do men really not understand how to separate friendship and a sexual relationship? When I am friends with someone, I don't somehow "get confused." And something tells me that even if she flat-out rejected him and didn't want to be friends with him, you'd still vilify her.
/r/MensRights06/02/13 11:17 PM
1

Then do you think my originally comment was misandric?
/r/MensRights06/02/13 11:16 PM
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Actually it's perfectly acceptable. The key word is fantasizing. And don't worry, most people fantasize about beating up and killing other men too. That's why there are action movies and they give little boys toy soldiers. Thoughts like this are perfectly normal. Oh, that's strange, because I've seen numerous posts on the front page of /r/MensRights saying that it's bad to fantasize about beating up your boyfriend. I guess fantasizing about slitting a woman's throat because she doesn't like her …
/r/MensRights06/02/13 11:13 PM
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Well, I was trying to tell people that fantasizing about beating women and slitting their throats is unacceptable, calling women cunts and sluts is not okay, comparing not getting laid to actually being raped is just ignorant, and that calling women sluts because they have casual sex and then not understanding why they won't have sex with you is counterproductive. Because apparently all that isn't common sense to everyone already.
/r/MensRights06/02/13 07:58 PM
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How is refusing to have sex with men you're not attracted to being manipulative and deliberately causing them harm and misery in any way, shape, or form? Women are individual people. We don't collectively decide to make people suffer by not having sex with anyone who asks. :/
/r/MensRights06/02/13 07:49 PM
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Understanding and empathetic? Uh, no, sorry, I don't empathize with people who call women cunts and sluts and fantasize about slitting women's throats.
/r/MensRights06/02/13 07:47 PM
1

So saying that women are self-entitled and unapproachable, whose looks are 99% of their market value, and worth only for sex is not misogyny, it's just "men ejecting from society"?
/r/MensRights06/02/13 07:46 PM
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Okay, the person I was replying to said himself that women who don't have sex with or love a man are deliberately making him suffer, and that saying "lets just be friends" really means "I will be your parasite." Also that all women want to make men suffer for their personal entertainment. Do you really not see a problem with that?
/r/MensRights06/02/13 07:05 PM
1

How can I give you better context? I literally gave you my quote and your response to my quote. And like I've said already, I was not making any claims, I was calling out the hypocrisy and misogyny in the OP.
/r/MensRights06/02/13 06:48 PM
1

On my phone right now but here's your comment. Just trying to justify misogyny. Hmm, when someone says this about women, it gets 42 upvotes and counting, but when someone says the exact same thing about men, it gets downvoted. Very telling. Because the same isn't going on with women. Oh wait you want citations my bad. Google is your friend.
/r/MensRights06/02/13 06:27 PM
1

I asked why it was okay to upvote a misogynistic post but downvote a misandric post that says the exact same thing, and you said "Because the misogynistic post is true!" Second of all, I wrote the post I did to call out the misogyny in the linked post. You still haven't provided any data for your claims.
/r/MensRights06/02/13 05:35 PM
13

Very true. It is easy to sympathize with hate when the hate stems from the same source.
/r/MensRights06/02/13 04:04 PM
0

Right? No. Sure, it would be considerate for the woman to weigh his opinion, but as far as legal rights go, men should have none in that situation.
/r/MensRights06/02/13 04:03 PM
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What the fuck did I just read? Apparently if a woman doesn't have sex with a man, she is putting him in a state of endless suffering. If a woman isn't sexually or romantically interested in a man, she wants him to be her parasite. And apparently women cripple men for personal entertainment by not having sex with them. You have a lot of unhealthy views about women and sex, buddy. I kind of feel bad for you, but not really.
/r/MensRights06/02/13 03:55 PM
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Agreed. Women should definitely be held accountable for the harm they deliberately cause men by not having sex with them.
/r/MensRights06/02/13 02:59 PM
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This article is hilarious. Dude calls women cunts and sluts and has fantasies of punching women in the face and slashing them with a knife, then goes on to call himself a nice guy. Shames women for the evil act of having casual sex with men who aren't him, then brags about it when he does the same thing. Compares not getting laid to actually being raped. Also has no idea how biology works. Does anyone care to explain the downvotes? Does anyone want to explain why it's apparently okay to fantasiz…
/r/MensRights06/02/13 02:43 PM
1

You admitted that it's understandable to upvote misogynistic posts, but not misandric posts. That's a pretty big double standard. Don't beat around the bush. I would like to see sources to your claims that women are complaining "where are all the good men?" more now than in past decades, more so than men, etc. I would also like to see sources that women are more self-entitled and unapproachable than men.
/r/MensRights06/02/13 02:45 AM
0

Well, yeah. It's her body.
/r/MensRights06/02/13 02:43 AM
0

So you're literally openly admitting that misogyny is okay but misandry isn't. That's very telling. And if you make unsourced claims, you make unsourced claims. That's exactly what MRA's accuse feminism of doing, but when MRA's make things up to justify their sexism, it's okay.
/r/MensRights05/02/13 01:45 PM
2

I saw the same thing. I don't know if we're talking about the same post, but one guy asked "What are turn-offs for you in a partner?" in both AskMen and AskWomen, and the reactions were completely different. When men had ridiculous standards (some guy said that women liking the color pink and not liking heavy metal was a turn-off), they got upvoted for it. When women had similar (or even lesser) standards in the corresponding AskWomen thread, they were heavily downvoted. It seems as though peopl…
/r/MensRights04/02/13 08:24 PM
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Citation needed, citation needed, aaand citation needed.
/r/MensRights04/02/13 08:20 PM
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I kind of agree, except I think women are giving up on men nowadays. Since money is 99% of men's overall market value and women are making financial progress nowadays, women no longer need to marry men to be financially successful. I also think men are self-entitled and unapproachable. Besides, men are willing to pay for your food/drinks/etc. even if you don't sleep with them or marry them. Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free? EDIT: Hmm, when someone says this about women, it gets…
/r/MensRights04/02/13 04:13 AM
1

I'd be glad to be rejected in such a way. I don't know why you'd think I'd be interested in marrying someone who wants a "pure" woman or doesn't want me to have a job. The sooner the cat's out of the bag, the better.
/r/MensRights03/02/13 10:40 PM
0

Yes, if you are threatened by the fact that I have a career and make good money, and don't want to be dependent on a man, then you are insecure. Many men feel like their masculinity is threatened by career-oriented, successful, independent women; if that is the case, then they are insecure, and I don't want to have anything to do with them relationship-wise.
/r/MensRights03/02/13 08:42 PM
2

Sure, being aggressive is not appealing, but there is nothing wrong with women being promiscuous, independent, or career-oriented, like that article states. And being those things certainly won't make it harder to find "good men" - really, it will make it easier, since you'd be weeding out the insecure and slut-shaming men.
/r/MensRights02/02/13 07:08 PM
2

I literally have no idea what you're talking about.
/r/MensRights02/02/13 06:52 PM
2

I feel the same way. Literally the first sentence is terrible.
/r/MensRights02/02/13 05:47 PM
7

"If you’re busy finding sexual “empowerment,” relentlessly climbing the ranks in a fast-paced career and aggressively asserting your independence, you’ll likely have trouble finding a good man." Actually, I find it to be quite the opposite. If any man has a problem with me being sexually liberated, career-oriented, and independent, well, that just weeds out the shitty men, leaving only the good ones. That being said, I'm disturbed that such a misogynistic article is being upvoted in this sub. Wo…
/r/MensRights02/02/13 05:22 PM
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First of all, asshole and douchebag are not gender-specific. Women also have assholes, first of all, and second of all, a douche bag is actually something used to clean a vagina. Second of all, could you link to that yahoo answers page?
/r/MensRights02/02/13 05:08 PM
1

I would say cock and dick are more analogous to pussy. "Cunt" is a word generally considered as bad or worse than "fuck."
/r/MensRights01/02/13 08:53 PM
1

I definitely disagree. I have seen many a comment downvoted for expressing a legitimate opinion that does not fall in line with the men's rights agenda.
/r/MensRights01/02/13 04:11 PM
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False equivalency. "Vagina" is the counterpart to "penis," not "cunt," which has no male counterpart.
/r/MensRights01/02/13 04:06 PM
2

females men Hmm.
/r/MensRights28/01/13 09:34 PM
1

Why? Because I don't think men should be allowed to force abortions on women? I'm not really sure why you're so upset over my posts. :/
/r/MensRights28/01/13 09:22 PM
1

As I've stated numerous times in this sub, I am an egalitarian. Checkmate.
/r/MensRights28/01/13 06:54 AM
1

Do tell how I am ideologically blinded.
/r/MensRights28/01/13 04:12 AM
1

And a very mature, adult observation at that.
/r/MensRights28/01/13 02:54 AM
0

Synacson is the only one arguing for a right to force abortions The only one? The number of upvotes on his posts and downvotes on my posts say differently. The main point of debate is instead on what form the decision should take: Well that is most certainly not being argued right now. What is being argued right now is these people who think it is okay to force abortions on women.
/r/MensRights27/01/13 10:55 PM
1

I mean, cloning tissue that's already dead is quite a bit different than forcing a medical procedure on a woman.
/r/MensRights27/01/13 10:52 PM
1

Wow, solid argument there!
/r/MensRights27/01/13 10:50 PM
1

Probably because these guys think "men's rights" include "men's rights to control what women do with their bodies."
/r/MensRights25/01/13 02:53 PM
0

But you just said, "it works both ways," "what's good for the goose is good for the gander."
/r/MensRights25/01/13 04:56 AM
0

How is it "stealing" if a man willingly gives his DNA to another woman through sex? She didn't "steal" his baby. He willingly gave it over. That's not "theft." Also, please point out where I advocated child support in my posts. Sounds like somebody's making up straw man arguments.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 01:34 PM
1

Along with 30 other men.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 01:31 PM
0

So you are seriously advocating the legalization of men forcing medical procedures on women if they so desire?
/r/MensRights24/01/13 01:28 PM
1

Sounds more like you just made up something completely unfounded and imaginary with absolutely no basis in fact to further your sexist agenda.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 02:27 AM
-2

Men have a right to deny their genetic contribution if they do not wish to have or be associated with a child, No they don't. What country do you live in?
/r/MensRights24/01/13 01:42 AM
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His DNA, his consent Her DNA, her consent His DNA, her DNA, and her body. Sorry, but the women's decisions always override the men's decisions in the case of abortion. Without both consenting, you're just legitimizing a form of theft. But you just said you think one person should be allowed to force abortions on the other without "both consenting." Hmm, sounds a lot like hypocrisy here. You Female Supremacist. Apparently thinking it shouldn't be legal for men to force abortions on women makes me…
/r/MensRights24/01/13 01:29 AM
0

Are you suggesting that women have children without their sexual partner's consent and placing them under child support where their partner is forced to lose money for a child they did not consent to? I am confused. Where did I suggest that idea? Looks like someone's making up some strawman arguments. Are you suggesting that women have children without their sexual partner's consent despite it being half their DNA? I see nothing wrong with that. Her body, her choice.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 01:00 AM
0

Hold on... So you're suggesting that men should be able to force abortions on the women they impregnate? That seems like a terrible idea.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 12:20 AM
1

I don't really think that's normal. My boyfriend first saw me fully nude when he was 15 and I was 17, and he certainly did not turn and run.
/r/MensRights23/01/13 11:49 PM
8

How is this getting upvotes? Two women dropped out, for medical reasons, while 30 other men dropped out. How dishonest and misleading of you.
/r/MensRights23/01/13 11:39 PM
4

First of all, I'm pretty sure we don't have the technology to non-invasively extract fetuses from a womb, fully intact, and then cryogenically freeze the fetus for later implantation. Second of all, that would be great if it were available as an option, but in no way should it be forced upon a woman who doesn't want to give birth. Just as how it's unethical to force abortions or childbirth upon a woman, it's also unethical to force fetal extraction upon a woman as well. Her body, her choice.
/r/MensRights23/01/13 11:15 PM
2

Can't tell if trolling or...
/r/MensRights23/01/13 08:07 PM
1

Well, that's not what OP was arguing. She was expressing dislike at the fact that a man cannot save his "baby" if the woman wants an abortion.
/r/MensRights23/01/13 06:06 PM
2

Although she does admit that sexism is, in fact, a reality in the gaming industry.
/r/MensRights23/01/13 01:44 PM
2

A man can not save his child if the woman wants to abort it. I fail to see how this is a problem.
/r/MensRights23/01/13 01:38 PM
0

No, I think it's a terrible subreddit. The comments are all so misogynistic, homophobic, and transphobic it's disturbing. I looked at that sub for about ten minutes then promptly booked it out of there.
/r/MensRights23/01/13 01:16 PM
1

It's always been this way. I saw this documentary maybe 8 years ago. Nothing has changed. Most pharmacists aren't against birth control, so most pharmacists will fill your prescription. That doesn't mean they don't have the right to refuse to do so at any time, however. Also, I live in the north, so I can't speak for the poor souls who happen to live in the Bible Belt.
/r/MensRights22/01/13 02:01 PM
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Yep. Any pharmacist can refuse any sort of medication based on religious or personal beliefs, including daily birth control. Saw on TV once a couple of years ago a documentary about this unfortunate problem. They interviewed a pharmacist who refuses to fill birth control prescriptions. He literally said that birth control poisons (yes, "poisons" was the word he used) a woman's body into not being able to get pregnant. People actually believe this shit and get away with it, and it's all perfectly…
/r/MensRights22/01/13 03:08 AM
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That's actually very untrue. All pharmacists have the right to refuse access to birth control and the morning after pill. If you need the morning after pill and your pharmacist doesn't like that, they can most certainly refuse to give it to you and you're SOL.
/r/MensRights21/01/13 06:06 PM
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It depends on the context. The word "misogyny" is grossly over-used in contemporary society and pretty much means anything feminists dislike. The word "misandry" (which autocorrect is even attempting to correct me on right now) is unknown to most people. The feminists I'm talking about literally believe that "misandry" doesn't exist, at all. They believe that "misandry" is not real, because any sexism towards men isn't sexism since it's "attacking the oppressor". Let's not compare this to somebo…
/r/MensRights18/01/13 06:00 PM
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lol, so you are saying now that if she sends mixed messages it isnt rape? Isnt that broad and easily abused? Hell, even I wouldnt go as far as this sentiment that if I think she's sending mixed messages I can ignore her if she says she doesnt want to have sex. No, I never said that. Strawman arguments, just like what you've been arguing the whole time. Literally all you've been arguing is strawman arguments. My scenario was clear. She said no. You said that wasnt rape. Where did I say that wasn'…
/r/MensRights18/01/13 05:44 PM
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..."Sure, in that situation, yes. But it is not appropriate to apply that to every situation"... ... Feel free to go back and check the scenario I had proposed. In it, the woman says no. You accept it wouldnt be rape, but you say i cant apply it to every situation. I agree, but I dont need to in order to say that by definition "no always means no" is incorrect. For the statement to be always true there can be no exceptions. Even if there is a single exception it disproves the statement. This is …
/r/MensRights14/01/13 07:36 PM
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No, it would just solidify what we already know. There are already NUMEROUS feminists who joke around with the word "misandry". Not much of a surprise, Ms. LadyLuq. Exactly my point. Paul Elam jokes about being a misogynist and you think that's perfectly fine, but as soon as a feminist jokes about being a misandrist, you get upset. As for your Paul Elam quotes, I don't feel like copy pasting them and just cluttering up this convo further so I'll just address them individually. I agree that Paul …
/r/MensRights14/01/13 07:26 PM
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You conceded there is a way for a women to consent to sex with her behaviour despite what she may say. Really? Where did I say that? No, seriously, quote me. As I said and as you just agreed to again, no doesnt necessarily mean no. You do know what necessarily means, right? Yes, I do. I understand that you think it's okay to have sex with someone who's saying "no." That's rape. Since I went straight on to say that coercion counts as rape, which would be non-violent or not forceful (unless you co…
/r/MensRights09/01/13 11:49 PM
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Wow, you cannot be this stupid. You obviously have never looked up the word "irony" or "satire" in your life. I guess if I wrote "asshole" in my username, it would totally make an asshole! YouTube username's are serious business! Interesting how if someone like Anita Sarkeesiam or Jessica Valenti referred to themselves as "misandrists," there would be a huge uproar in the MRA community. Well, Ms. LadyLuq... if you're so certain that Paul Elam here is such a rampant "misogynist", then I'd imagine…
/r/MensRights09/01/13 11:40 PM
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You already admitted to me that no doesnt always mean no, go back and read what you wrote. I gave you a scenario where the women said no, but where you accepted it wasnt rape. I quote... "Sure, in that situation, yes. But it is not appropriate to apply that to every situation in which a woman says "no" ".... This means you concede there is a way for a women to show consent to sex with her behavior alone. No, I said that a woman who is saying no while actively sucking your cock/riding you is send…
/r/MensRights07/01/13 05:34 PM
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Paul Elam is a misogynist. Source: Paul Elam's YouTube username is TheHappyMisogynist. You are truly an idiot if you claim to be an MRA and not even know that one of the most prominent MRA figureheads openly labels himself as a misogynist.
/r/MensRights07/01/13 03:03 PM
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If there is violence and force involved where the women has made it clear she really isnt interested, then its rape. I gave a more obvious scenario simply to show the claim that "no always means no" or another variation "if she doesnt say yes, she didnt consent", is simply wrong. You accepted above that I was correct. To concede I was correct means that there are things a women can do to show she really does want sex, even if she says no(, or doesnt say yes). Actually, "no" does always mean "no.…
/r/MensRights04/01/13 04:00 AM
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Right, and you think it wouldn't be racist to say "Most black people these days are niggers and porch monkeys"? You don't think it would be misandrist to say "Most men these days are worthless creeps"?
/r/MensRights04/01/13 03:49 AM
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If a women says she doesnt want sex, but proceeds to give me oral sex, get naked and climb on top of me, thats sending mixed messages Sure, in that situation, yes. But it is not appropriate to apply that to every situation in which a woman says "no" but appears aroused, as Warren Farrell said. That's how rape happens. Appearing horny is not indicative of consent. Saying "yes" or "no" is much more indicative of consent. Feminists have warped your mind. No, my mind is not warped because I want to …
/r/MensRights03/01/13 03:16 AM
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Actually, he gets married at the end of the movie to his wife, and she was the person who was most accepting of his virginity. His male friends were not accepting of it. You literally said that The 40 Year Old Virgin is a movie about women shaming Steve Carrell's character for being a virgin, but that's literally the opposite of what happened in the movie (men shamed Steve Carrell for being a virgin, woman was okay with Steve Carrell being a virgin).
/r/MensRights03/01/13 03:09 AM
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Dude, are you serious? Do "Paul Elam" and "Warren Farrell" ring a bell?
/r/MensRights03/01/13 03:06 AM
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Then maybe it's time you went over and showcased their bigotry for a bit? They've certainly got FAR more than we do and they (for some straaange reason) aren't put on the SPLC's all-mighty "hate" list. Seems like THEY are the ones need exposing more than we do. I do, just not on reddit. Reddit doesn't have comparably as big a population of feminists in comparison to MRA's. For one, "Men Can Stop Rape" is not really 'tame'. Somebody making posters parading around "Blacks Can Stop Crime" is not 't…
/r/MensRights03/01/13 03:04 AM
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but one comment does not justify writing off every man on the site as a bigot I never said every man on that site is a bigot, nor did the original tumblr claim that. I'm saying that the quotes were misogynistic, which I got downvoted for - I'm not really sure why, considering there is pretty much no way you can deny that those guys are misogynistic. And I'm sorry, how is selecting mates based on his choice of criteria misogynistic? How is saying "most women are bitches and sluts" not misogynisti…
/r/MensRights03/01/13 02:58 AM
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I saw the quotes and didn't see anything half as hateful as the garbage spewed by feminist groups. Right, that's why I'm not a feminist. The quotes were VERY tame in terms of 'sexism'. So is "Men Can Stop Rape." But that phrase is treated as serious misandry, while "women are evil liars" is apparently not misogynistic to you. Why don't you go visit the nice ladies over at radfemhub advocating aborting baby boys and androcide, rather than wasting everybody's time crying over supposed "misogyny" h…
/r/MensRights31/12/12 01:38 AM
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Three pages in and not once so far Well, I mean, yeah. Look at the date of my post. would you care to provide actual evidence, or would you rather just make more stuff up? http://niceguysofokc.tumblr.com/image/38614395349 But I guess I'm just "making it up." *And it's his right to think so, just as it's your right to disagree Yes, it is his right to think so. And he is misogynistic. That's a fact.
/r/MensRights31/12/12 01:25 AM
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I don't see anywhere in the article where it says feminists caused this.
/r/MensRights30/12/12 08:31 PM
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Which is why you're wasting your time over-exaggerating these posts to literally mean "misogyny"? Why don't you go over to SRS and see how well they treat your arguments towards their ACTUAL bigotry? Maybe then you'll realize how pointless it is sitting here and pretending we're the ones spewing bigotry. Over-exaggerating? You saw the quotes. They were hateful, bigoted, and misogynistic, and somehow they got many many upvotes. I didn't see any posts literally saying all women are evil. This is j…
/r/MensRights30/12/12 07:42 PM
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Well, the quotes are obviously misogynistic because they say that most women are bitches and sluts. I got downvoted for saying the quotes are misogynistic. I already explained why they are misogynistic; if you disagree, you better explain yourself.
/r/MensRights30/12/12 07:36 PM
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Dude, did you even watch the movie? The people who virgin-shame him are his guy friends, and the person most accepting of his virginity is his wife. I don't think there are any women in that movie who shame Steve Carrell's character for being a virgin.
/r/MensRights30/12/12 07:30 PM
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Why is it misogynistic to talk about pms? And yeah, it would be wrong to accuse ALL or even many women of using pms to behave unreasonable and selfish. So do you think the statement "Wait a second once a month i can be unreasonable and selfish due to my gender? I'm not going to abuse this at all! -Mens thoughts" in response to http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=53725 is misandric? But there are women who do this and men should know it. From the above article: "Again, there…
/r/MensRights28/12/12 10:18 PM
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It's amazing how you feminists Really? I'm not a feminist, I identify as an egalitarian. Calling out sexism in gender movements does not make me a feminist. little smidgeon of supposed "misogyny" Yeah, because calling women evil is not real misogyny. Why don't you go to your little feminist blogs and see the kind of hateful shit about MALES being upvoted on a routine basis? Um, I do? That's why I'm not a feminist, lol. Oh and while you're at it, why don't you take a nice gander at your nice litt…
/r/MensRights28/12/12 09:52 PM
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I mean, essentially, I'm in agreement with you here. Movements shouldn't be defined by the outliers here and there, because there is stupidity on both sides. There always is. But that doesn't change the fact that these aren't outliers - "outliers" don't cause comments to be voted to +10, +20, +30, +40, +50. This is definitely a problem. Essentially, I was asking you whether you say the same thing to MRA's who say feminism is misandrist - do you tell them that they shouldn't go back to their frie…
/r/MensRights28/12/12 07:21 AM
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Do you say this same thing to MRA's who say feminists and feminism are misandrist?
/r/MensRights28/12/12 05:27 AM
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Messes up once? You sound like you messed up a whole ton of times.
/r/MensRights28/12/12 05:01 AM
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Yep, totally agree with you here. I do wish there was a male pill available.
/r/MensRights28/12/12 05:00 AM
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I'm assuming you make this exact same argument every time an MRA posts a link to a misandric comment/link that gets upvoted on reddit?
/r/MensRights28/12/12 04:59 AM
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Really, because I just posted 10+ links of highly misogynistic comments getting upvoted.
/r/MensRights28/12/12 04:58 AM
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I mean, you can say that, but feminists use the exact same argument. "Any bad press we feminists get are not from true feminists." "Any bad press we MRA's get are not from true MRA's."
/r/MensRights28/12/12 04:58 AM
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See my edit.
/r/MensRights28/12/12 04:57 AM
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That's what I'm saying. The reason why the male pill isn't out yet is because of a variety of reasons - 1) biology, like you said, with 1 egg vs. millions of sperm; 2) lack of long-term research, because they can't just shove a pill out there that will kill you because the contraceptives that are out haven't been out long enough to be researched; 3) lack of profitability, because companies are going to profit far more off of an expensive pill taken every month than an inexpensive shot taken ever…
/r/MensRights27/12/12 07:43 PM
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no, you didn't. the first post said the guy is being overly paranoid and that it isn't that easy to get someone pregnant. i then wrote several warning posts that it really isn't that hard to get someone pregnant and that it is easy to make mistakes. Yes, because you chose to have sex without a condom. Of course it isn't that hard to get someone pregnant if you're having sex without a condom. If you're taking the time to make sure you're well-protected, then pregnancy is easily avoidable.
/r/MensRights27/12/12 05:14 AM
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a) "the same work" is a myth. In the 50s' very few women did the same job as men, and as is the case now, most of these did fewer hours than men, took more leaves of absence, and worked fewer years. No, it isn't. Women were paid less than men for the same work, because it was completely legal. b) nobody forces you to sign a contract. If the salary was insufficient, it was up to women to negotiate it until it matched their expectation. Even today, no one is paid the exact same amount for the same…
/r/MensRights27/12/12 05:12 AM
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They sure are, but when misogynistic comments regularly get upvoted, that speaks for more of the community, not just one person here or there. BTW, I have seen many MRA's claim that Men's Rights does NOT aim for equality, and these comments are also upvoted.
/r/MensRights27/12/12 05:07 AM
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Okay, and where is the proof for this? Some person on Tumblr saying it doesn't make it true. Jezebel is VERY feminist and certainly advocates feminist bigotry out in the open. Even if they actually DO claim to be non-feminist, they are certainly not open about it nor would they be doing it for anything other than PR purposes. So basically, anytime anyone disagrees with you on a gender issue, they're a feminist. Lol. That's not how it works. I could post a million misogynistic articles and then s…
/r/MensRights27/12/12 05:06 AM
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I did. If you routinely have unprotected sex, you're probably going to get knocked up. This is biology 101.
/r/MensRights27/12/12 05:02 AM
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None of those links showed any proof of feminists disagreeing with the male pill.
/r/MensRights27/12/12 05:01 AM
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Birth Control pills for women are handed out like candy on halloween. Really? Before August 2012, I'm confused as to where birth control pills were being handed out "like candy on Halloween."
/r/MensRights27/12/12 04:52 AM
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So, you have sex without a condom, and then you're surprised when your partner gets pregnant. In other news, sex makes babies.
/r/MensRights27/12/12 04:51 AM
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You can make all the responses you want against the claim that /r/MensRights is misogynistic, but in the end, the upvotes don't lie. I have seen many a misogynistic comment heavily upvoted on this subreddit. EDIT: for those asking for links... Women deliberately abuse PMS to be unreasonable and selfish [+3] http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/antmcat/mr1_zps265dca9e.jpg Women shamelessly lie; women actively seek out to ruin men's lives; women are harlots who happily destroy men; women are e…
/r/MensRights26/12/12 10:28 PM
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Legal discrimination is when you have less rights than other people, not when everyone is equally screwed, but you happen to be a woman. How is everyone equally screwed when it was legal for employers to pay women less than men for the same work just because they're women? It was also legal to "discriminate" against men on any medical ground. Source? I was talking about maternity leave. Abortion is a different matter altogether, which involves another life than your own. As such, it's a far hair…
/r/MensRights26/12/12 10:03 PM
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Jezebel ditched its title as a feminist pop-culture e-zine some time ago, now proudly toting themselves as “Celebrity, Sex, Fashion for Women,” but its fans are not ready to let go. http://firesunderground.wordpress.com/2011/01/07/fuck-no-jezebel-post-feminist-bullshit-at-its-finest/ They claim they are not a feminist site as the reason why they post “controversial” stuff, which is fair enough, if their business model is better served by distancing themselves from feminism, I believe it’s their …
/r/MensRights24/12/12 08:08 PM
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Actually, Jezebel has stated numerous times that they are not feminist.
/r/MensRights24/12/12 07:37 AM
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Personally, why it makes me angry is that these men are incredibly misogynistic/homophobic/douchey and are in complete denial about it. EDIT: I'm not understanding the downvotes. Will someone explain to me how these men are not misogynistic?
/r/MensRights24/12/12 07:03 AM
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So you're saying that discrimination against women being legal is not legal discrimination? That makes no sense. It was completely and totally legal for employers to discriminate against women. sees the absence of modern privileges as "discrimination" I assume you're talking about abortion. Having the right to control your own body is absolutely not a "privilege." It is a right. I mean, by your logic, no MRA's should be upset that many doctors require a wife's approval for a man's vasectomy. Aft…
/r/MensRights23/12/12 12:10 AM
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Sure thing. It was perfectly legal to: pay women less for the same work discriminate based on pregnancy status discriminate based on sex/gender refuse women the rights to their own bodies (abortion) sexually assault women, as long as you're married to them
/r/MensRights22/12/12 08:34 PM
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Right, and I agree. I just don't see why one would be upset or offended by the fact that the UN banned FGM.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 09:18 PM
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Just because one issue needs attention, doesn't mean that no other issues are allowed to have attention.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 03:24 PM
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Human rights violations are human rights violations. It's silly to get upset because someone cares about an issue that's not yours.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 03:03 PM
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How is this a men's rights issue?
/r/MensRights21/12/12 01:01 PM
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There was no legal discrimination against women in the 50s and 60s? This is news to me.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 12:52 PM
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Honestly, I would definitely not want a man who is abusive, controlling, and mentally unstable in my child's life.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 06:43 PM
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Wait, you keep saying he made his "point." What is his point?
/r/MensRights19/12/12 03:26 AM
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I think I missed the part where she called him a monster.
/r/MensRights19/12/12 03:24 AM
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What are you talking about? He has free speech to say what he wants, and I have free speech to day I dislike him because he's a cruel asshole. I'm not sure what you're getting so upset about.
/r/MensRights19/12/12 03:08 AM
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I'm not sure what point you can possibly make by wishing death upon a rape victim and telling her you honor her rapist.
/r/MensRights18/12/12 10:46 PM
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Hold on - it is level headed to say we should give a medal to a rapist, and call a rape victim an ugly cow and wish death upon her?
/r/MensRights18/12/12 10:45 PM
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What are you talking about? I never argued that men should be forced into parenthood. If you can point out to me where I said men should be forced into parenthood, that would be great, thanks. What I'm concerned about is why you think men should have an "equal say" in whether women get an abortion or not.
/r/MensRights18/12/12 08:32 PM
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Wait, so you're saying men should have the right to force abortions/childbirth onto women? Sorry, but your rights end where my body begins.
/r/MensRights18/12/12 08:21 PM
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Yes. Because it's not his body.
/r/MensRights18/12/12 08:00 PM
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"I think we should give the guy who raped you a medal. I hope you fucking drown in rape semen, you ugly, mean-spirited cow." I know, right? He's just insensitive, not an actual asshole or anything! I would definitely still chill with THAT guy!
/r/MensRights18/12/12 05:41 PM
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Alright, then you should give this same response to any MRA who ever posts a link to any other thread on Reddit, any feminist comment, any feminist organization, etc.
/r/MensRights18/12/12 02:45 AM
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Men should have equal vote in whether or not the child gets aborted No.
/r/MensRights17/12/12 11:15 PM
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Now you are just nitpicking for language. Call it what you want - the vast majority of MRA's who voted on the article upvoted it. Playing with language doesn't change the facts.
/r/MensRights17/12/12 11:13 PM
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Is there a way Reddit can track how many people read the article? No? So you're making up statistics to suit your needs? Conveniently, Reddit has a system with "upvoting" and "downvoting" - you can see in the upper right corner of the article that out of those who read the article, 69% (or 125 out of 179) upvoted the article.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 10:08 PM
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I'm just saying, if MRA's disagreed with the article so much, they'd downvote it, but they didn't. The vast majority of MRA's who read the article upvoted it. That's a problem.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 02:25 AM
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Except that husbands aren't allowed to be angry about that or they're "abusive". That's the whole fucking point here. Really? Do you know anyone, like literally anyone, who thinks a guy is abusive because he doesn't want his wife to buy a car without consulting him first? I honestly don't know a single person who would say that. Not a single one. Women think that they should get everything they want and that their husbands shouldn't get to do anything without begging permission first. Really? Al…
/r/MensRights15/12/12 02:23 AM
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Agreed. Same with women. Going down on a woman while she is asleep or stroking her clitoris while she's asleep is rape.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 01:31 PM
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Well no duh. We live in the real world, not the fantasy world of the commercial. We know buying a car without consulting your wife is a bad idea. But if we're going to remain fixed on the real world we live in, and not the fantasy land the commercial exists in, I find it very strange you're so set on having us admit the men made bad decisions in the commercial, yet you completely ignore the even worse decision the wives made in response: DOMESTIC ABUSE. I really don't know what's going on in you…
/r/MensRights12/12/12 06:22 AM
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What are you talking about?
/r/MensRights12/12/12 06:19 AM
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No, I'm just curious as to why you guys think it's okay to blame women abusers of male rapists, but not male abusers of female murderers.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 06:19 AM
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I don't see your point. Even if it is a metaphor, plenty of people in this thread agree that it's okay to buy a car without consulting your wife. Which is what I was originally responding to in the first place. You know, the people in this thread... not the commercial.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 03:55 PM
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That still doesn't change the fact that hundreds of people in /r/MensRights did, in fact, agree that a rapist is not to blame for raping if he or she was abused. If people really disagreed with the article, they'd downvote it to hell, not upvote it to a net positive 68 votes.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 03:53 PM
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Did you actually watch the commercial? They were upset about the price. That's not being "incapable of understanding his desire for freedom." It's them being angry because the man made a bad decision. Seriously, did you even watch this commercial?
/r/MensRights09/12/12 10:30 PM
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The cultural phenomenon where some men feel trapped in unhappy marriages with little control. Consulting their wife isn't about having a discussion where pros and cons are considered, but asking her permission to do something, like a child might ask their mother. The commercial is trying to capitalize on this feeling, then use it to sell a car. This is not even a gender issue. If a wife did the same thing, it would still be wrong. Consulting your partner should be about having a discussion where…
/r/MensRights09/12/12 05:08 PM
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How do we know there was no consultation? It's pretty obvious from the reactions of the wives - "What is this?" "Look at that price!" that the car was bought without consultation. At what point does consulting your spouse turn into getting permission from your spouse? If you have to get permission from your spouse, is your marriage really equal? Would you want freedom? What are you talking about? Do you understand how marriage works? In the vast majority of marriages, couples have shared bank ac…
/r/MensRights09/12/12 01:26 AM
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It doesn't. I was responding to the people in the thread who see no problem with buying a car without consulting your spouse first.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 01:20 AM
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Most married people don't have "their own money." They have shared bank accounts. And even then, if you're trying to save for more important things like your kids' college education, and your spouse goes and drops thousands of dollars on a new car without telling you, that's going to lead to a whole slew of marital problems.
/r/MensRights08/12/12 09:17 PM
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Are you saying none of you guys would be upset if your wife bought a car without consulting you on the matter first?
/r/MensRights08/12/12 08:26 PM
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To say he was targeting feminists and not women is absurd. He literally ordered male engineering students to leave the room so he could kill the female ones. To him, the definition of a feminist was a woman who was doing a "man's" job. "Lépine then separated the nine women from the approximately fifty men and ordered the men to leave. Speaking in French, he asked the remaining women whether they knew why they were there, and when one student replied "no," he answered: "I am fighting feminism". O…
/r/MensRights08/12/12 08:22 PM
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"Women are to blame for rape, not the women who are raped but those who abused the rapists when they were children" +68 votes in /r/MensRights http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1398j7/canadian_report_claims_women_are_to_blame_for/
/r/MensRights08/12/12 08:15 PM
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So, because you got called out for your lack of sources, you resorted to childish insults and ad hominems. Nice.
/r/MensRights07/12/12 12:24 AM
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No, that's abstinence education, not sex education; the key is in their titles. In many cases, it's not. People learn about sex without learning about condoms and birth control. And you still haven't shown me any source that shows that learning about the clitoris is "standard" in sex education. One of them was in porn (by choice); like I said, stop projecting. Being in porn doesn't mean you're experienced with your body. Many women in porn have never masturbated at all and/or have never had an o…
/r/MensRights05/12/12 12:57 AM
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Are you conflating sex education with abstinence classes? Probably. Some sex education is essentially an abstinence class. Especially in the south. That one. An interpretation of the data: Giving the data another go, he finds that 86 percent of women who had anal also had vaginal sex, 72 percent also received oral sex, and 31 percent also had partnered masturbation. As he puts it, "The more sex acts a woman engaged in during the encounter, the more likely she was to report orgasm. These other ac…
/r/MensRights04/12/12 08:48 PM
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I agree that most people should try to explore their bodies to the fullest, but my comment was mostly referring to people who try to tell people who can't have vaginal orgasms that they actually can, or people who try to tell people who do have vaginal orgasms that they actually can't.
/r/MensRights04/12/12 12:37 AM
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I'm not sure. I've been masturbating for almost a decade now, and there is no way I can come from vaginal stimulation without additional stimulation of the clitoris. I can bring myself up to literally a millisecond before orgasm by touching my clitoris, but if I stop touching it and stimulate myself vaginally instead, I won't orgasm. That article was interesting, but definitely missed the mark. There are women who have vaginal orgasms and there are women who don't. The article was stating that a…
/r/MensRights03/12/12 09:42 PM
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This is very age and location dependent, the clitoris is now standard information, it simply may not have been when you were in school. Source that learning about the clitoris is now standard information in sex ed? Considering that condoms and birth control aren't even standard information in sex ed, I doubt the clitoris is. So, you basically completely ignored the point, while proving it to be correct. Researchers asked a bunch of women whether or not they had orgasms during their last encounte…
/r/MensRights03/12/12 03:30 PM
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I do tell them, but the problem is, they're shocked to hear it. The thing is, most men and women just aren't taught about the importance of the clitoris. Most guys I know (and have slept with) expect women to orgasm from sex and don't understand when they don't. Stressing the importance of the clitoris would be beneficial for both genders - women, because it will help them have more orgasms, and men, because they won't feel inadequate when their partners don't orgasm from just their penis. The s…
/r/MensRights02/12/12 06:40 PM
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More like 2 ways, considering that 1, 2, 6, and 7 can't apply to men because they don't have uteruses, and I read somewhere that 4 and 5 also apply to men.
/r/MensRights02/12/12 06:33 PM
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I guess nagging, yelling, being jealous, and name-calling go hand-in-hand with being a woman now. What the hell.
/r/MensRights02/12/12 06:12 PM
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Stop clitoral worship: Science has proven time and again that the clitoris isn't the end all be all, and women best respond to variety; this lesson causes women to limit themselves, and erroneous genital mutilation comparisons. Really? I disagree with this. I was never taught about my clitoris in sexual education, and neither was anyone I know; many women and men don't even know what it is! As someone who gets off only from clitoral stimulation and not vaginal, I wish more guys knew that the maj…
/r/MensRights02/12/12 06:07 PM
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Yeah, I agree, I was only using the words the article did, which is why I put that disclaimer in parentheses after I said "reverse discrimination."
/r/MensRights02/12/12 06:05 PM
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It creates higher entrance qualifications for men because their ability to meet those entrance qualifications is not equal because of direct discrimination. If I give you a million dollars and another person a thousand and tell you to both make two million dollars profit, the barriers for you to do this are much, much less than the person who only has $10,000. What we need to analyze is what those women's centers actually are - do they actually provide tutoring just for women? Or are they just s…
/r/MensRights01/12/12 09:06 PM
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It kind of does, actually. Women get financial assistance that men do not, thus allowing them greater security and time for schooling. Right, but that is not what we're talking about in this thread. Do I personally believe that people should not be granted scholarships, etc. based on gender/race? Yes. I am not disagreeing with that. However, the topic at hand is whether women are more competent than men, whether they get held to lower standards, and whether they get pushed through to graduate wh…
/r/MensRights01/12/12 07:37 PM
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First of all, that may be true in some schools, but is it true in most schools or all schools? Like I said, I'm looking for evidence that this happens systematically among most universities. Entrance qualifications for my major were pretty much an average GPA of 3.0 or above for your pre-major classes (known as your SPHR GPA), regardless of gender. I knew many many women AND men who, unfortunately, got 2.9's for their SPHR GPA and couldn't get into the program. Second of all, entrance qualificat…
/r/MensRights01/12/12 06:30 PM
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So calling you out for misogyny is nitpicking now? Obviously, women contribute to population growth. So do men. Each baby has one mother and one father, no matter what. I understand that whole "1 woman + 10 man=1 baby 10 women + 1 man = 10 babies" thing, but that's not really accurate in today's world. About half the world is male and about half the world is female. (5 women + 5 men = 5 babies!) Unless you are advocating that there should be less women than men in the world in order to decrease …
/r/MensRights01/12/12 06:18 PM
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That article was completely unsourced. It was just one person's opinion that women are "coddled" and are held to "lower standards" and that this issue is spread among "most universities" with absolutely no proof whatsoever. What I'm looking for is conclusive evidence that women get higher grades than men for the same answers on a test, or that women get higher letter grades than men for the same percentage grades (i.e. a woman gets an A for a 91%, but a men gets an A- for a 91%), or that women a…
/r/MensRights01/12/12 06:05 PM
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And I didn't say they were the biggest; You put those words into my mouth Well, you know what, I'm sorry that I confused you for another poster and I didn't mean to put words in your mouth. You, however, DID put words in my mouth and claimed that I said women are not a limiting factor in childbirth, when I said no such thing. I figured you were denying that women ARE a limiting factor. Which is what that reply was about. No, I continually asked him for proof or a source for his claim that women …
/r/MensRights01/12/12 05:40 PM
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Really? I'm a woman in engineering, and I'm confused as to where I'm receiving special treatment and getting pushed through to graduation when I should be failing. I haven't encountered any of this in my studies so far. Last time I checked, if I fail a class, I fail a class, and do not get extra points for being a woman.
/r/MensRights01/12/12 05:28 PM
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Hyperbole, learn to recognize it. Hyperbole? If someone said the same thing about men - "men are the sex driving the decimation of everything" - you would be crying misandry, but because the article said women are the decimation of everything, it's a "hyperbole." Right. Women are net consumers and men are net producers because Ms. Magazine tells me that women only earn 74% as much as men but control 70% of all spending. Right, and much of that is spent on family spending, like groceries, clothes…
/r/MensRights01/12/12 05:18 PM
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Of course it does, that's exactly what it means. Source? Who said that? Population growth is one of the biggest causes of environmental degradation. You said that. You said that women are the biggest limiting factor of population growth and therefore one of the biggest causes of environmental degradation.
/r/MensRights01/12/12 05:06 PM
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I didn't say that women are not a limiting factor in childbirth. What? Where are you getting this and why are you putting words in my mouth? And the poster I was replying to's original claim was that women's biology is the cause of environmental degradation.
/r/MensRights01/12/12 04:56 PM
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Calling me feeble and unintelligent isn't going to change the fact that you have no sources to back up your claims.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 09:10 PM
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That doesn't mean that women are the biggest limiting factor in population growth. Also, it is not accurate to say that women's biology is the cause of environmental degradation.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 05:50 PM
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If you're going to make such claims then you really should provide a direct quotation if you want anyone to take you seriously. Sure thing. The sex driving the world’s ridiculous over consumption, and therefore decimation of everything, is not men. In fact, women’s level of over consumption is so outrageous that they cannot even maintain it with their own resources.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 05:40 PM
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That doesn't mean that women are the cause of environmental degradation or population. Also, I'd like to see a source that states that women are the biggest limiting factors in population growth.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 05:29 PM
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Sure, but the article literally said that women will cause the decimation of everything. Besides, while women are larger consumers, I expect a lot of it is spent on the family - groceries, clothes shopping, Christmas/birthday shopping, etc.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 05:18 PM
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Wait, so you blame women for population growth? How is that possible? For every child conceived, there is a mother and a father. Also, it's somewhat silly to blame women for the "decimation of everything," which is what this article did.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 04:42 PM
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I don't understand how such misogynistic articles get taken seriously and upvoted.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 03:47 PM
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So women never mature mentally... Right. That's not sexist at all.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 02:42 PM
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Where did I say there is sexism in the gaming industry? Now you are just putting words in my mouth.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 02:25 PM
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“I have never, however, been treated as anything but a team member and an equal by my coworkers, and it’s a major disservice to them that folks automatically assume they will treat me differently because I am a woman. ” is not “Calling Games Industry Sexist Is A Major Disservice To Developers” No matter how you try to twist it. Somehow believing one set of people over another is a moral imperative that you seem to be espousing. I am not "believing" one set of people over another. My issue is tha…
/r/MensRights29/11/12 07:20 PM
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How am I being hypocritical? People commenting are saying sexism doesn't exist in the gaming industry because one woman said it doesn't. Just because one woman says that sexism doesn't exist in the gaming industry, doesn't mean that no woman has experienced it. How is this hypocritical in any way, shape, or form?
/r/MensRights29/11/12 07:10 PM
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And you just completely and totally put words in my mouth that I never once stated.
/r/MensRights29/11/12 06:59 PM
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One woman didn't experience sexism in the gaming industry. That must mean that no woman has ever experienced sexism in the gaming industry. Right guys? Right? Also, did anyone notice that the quote in the title of this post is not actually found in the article and is a pretty severe twisting of her words?
/r/MensRights29/11/12 03:36 AM
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So basically: "Janet, you aren't the gentle little woman my mother was. My father worshiped her, and no wonder. You are too strong, yourself, and too independent for me. There'd be conflict in the house. You wouldn't be satisfied just to be taken care of; you'd want to do something on your own, and be a 'partner' to me. It's just no use." I wanted to cry out to him, " But I want to be like your mother! I want you to take care of me and deliver me from my hateful daily job! I want you to cherish …
/r/MensRights28/11/12 03:19 PM
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Females generally do not significantly mature mentally past puberty So why is this article getting upvoted again?
/r/MensRights28/11/12 02:59 PM
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no marital exception You say that like it's a bad thing...
/r/MensRights23/11/12 07:26 PM
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Is there actually proof that men are better tenants than women?
/r/MensRights23/11/12 07:09 PM
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How am I injecting generalities? You said yourself that women who are immature never outgrow penis envy, as if all women start out with penis envy and if they're mature enough, they grow out of it. You're also insinuating that penis envy even exists at all, when it has never been proven to exist.
/r/MensRights23/11/12 06:59 PM
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Um, because they hate men? Besides, isn't this subreddit supposed to be about equality? It's kind of silly that I'm being downvoted for no reason other than I said that all women do not have penis envy. If I started talking about how all men have womb envy and only the mature ones grow out of it, I'd be downvoted in a heartbeat. But when someone says that all women have penis envy and only the mature ones grow out of it, they get massive upvotes. That doesn't seem to be about equality to me.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 08:35 PM
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"Men dream of accomplishing great things, changing the world, and being engineers and scientists. Women dream of doing nothing but burping the baby, changing diapers, and cleaning things. BUT YOU DON'T SEE MEN GETTING OFFENDED OVER THESE GENERALIZATIONS, DO YOU?"
/r/MensRights20/11/12 08:25 PM
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Why? Penis envy has never been proven to exist, and to insinuate that all women have penis envy is rather offensive.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 06:45 PM
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...I can't tell if you are a troll or if you're really just this bigoted and ignorant.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 05:17 PM
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An eye for an eye, right guys? Right?
/r/MensRights19/11/12 04:28 PM
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Or they never have it in the first place...
/r/MensRights19/11/12 04:26 PM
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Yeah but not in our culture. We view them as something else but milk dispensers. Exactly. There is no biological reason why women should not be allowed to go topless. It is all a social construct. Discrimination based on sex or gender should be illegal. Wait so, are we talking about NOW or are we talking about the past cause i like to live in the present and not base my arguments on how stuff went down 20 years ago. So you think that no man today has ever been harassed for wearing a skirt? They …
/r/MensRights19/11/12 04:25 PM
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I don't know if you know how this works, but if you make a ridiculous claim like "Most women dream of nothing more than cleaning their house, getting pregnant, and serving their husbands," you better have some sort of proof to back it up.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 04:14 PM
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Well one of the reasons is that tits are a tit bit more sexual than the flat chest of a man. So, there is indeed a reason. How so? In many cultures all around the world, women walk around topless just as much as men do. There is really no reason why it should be illegal, of all things, in any country for women to go topless. Because that would be ACTUALLY unfair if somebody was actually enforcing these things, but nobody is. Wait, so no man has ever been harassed for wearing a skirt? No woman ha…
/r/MensRights19/11/12 03:16 PM
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Man with no cloth on his chest is something different than a woman with no cloth on her chess. it is a double standard but for a reason. Not true. There is no reason that a woman shouldn't be allowed to go topless if she wants to. Besides, there is no rule against it. You can run around unshaven and man can run around in what ever cloth they choose, but you don't get to police how other people react to you. I'm not sure why you keep using the term "police." No one is "policing" anything. The poi…
/r/MensRights18/11/12 11:57 PM
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It's a double standard to say that it's socially acceptable for a man to do something, but not for a woman, and vice versa. Do you think it's a double standard that it's not socially acceptable for men to wear skirts, but it's okay for women to wear skirts?
/r/MensRights18/11/12 10:29 PM
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What the hell is this sexist bullshit and why is it getting upvoted? This is 2012, not 1950.
/r/MensRights18/11/12 08:37 PM
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I'm not sure why you're getting downvoted. Double standards are unfair, no matter if it disadvantages men or women.
/r/MensRights18/11/12 08:26 PM
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They're not conscripted So far the only way that men are discriminated against that women aren't. they're not forced to maintain their spouse, instead, they're entitled to maintenance They are most certainly not entitled to maintenance. I don't see any laws forcing men to support their wives. they're exempt from certain criminal offences and punishments. First of all, source? Second of all, so are men. Men are allowed to beat their wives, women are not allowed to beat their husbands. I mentioned…
/r/MensRights17/11/12 11:22 PM
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Wait what? There's one Slave Leia costume, and one hard gay costume. If you have a problem with how many are purchased then you're having a totally different argument. We were discussing availability, not actual purchases. Other way around, sorry. My point is, more sexually revealing costumes are available for women than for men, including costumes in which the "source material" is revealing. Seriously, you didn't even bother checking amazon.com to find out if your outrage was justified, and now…
/r/MensRights17/11/12 10:13 PM
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Women in third-world countries are not oppressed, this fact doesn't in any way take away from the discrimination women face there. But men are also discriminated against there and even oppressed in certain countries (conscription, that is an actual case of oppression). Once again, how are they not oppressed? As far as I know, the only discrimination that men face in third-world countries is conscription. That is a case of gynocentrism. Men shouldn't have a right to contraception? I never said th…
/r/MensRights16/11/12 03:58 PM
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You know, there may be a misunderstanding. When I think "slutty costumes" I think of costumes that are slutty despite the source material. For example, a Slave Leia costume wouldn't be "slutty" because the source material itself is very revealing. A "sexy police officer" would be "slutty" because the source material is not revealing. Right, but how many Slave Leia costumes exist in comparison to Hard Gay costumes? Not a whole lot. If you just mean anything revealing, then your problem isn't with…
/r/MensRights16/11/12 03:47 PM
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The store I'm talking about, while a local chain, doesn't sell online. As you can see, though, they specifically have a separate "sexy" section versus their "adult" section. Welp, look what we've got here in the Adult, Non-Sexy section. http://www.thecostumecastle.com/wp-content/uploads/adult-right.jpg I'm not saying she looks like a total prostitute or anything, I'm just saying this is definitely more revealing than any men's costume. As pointed out by this comment, there is nothing preventing …
/r/MensRights16/11/12 03:37 PM
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I disagree with the assumption that most costumes are slutty, but you seem to agree with that assumption. No, honestly. I've asked several people in this thread to show me a website where less than 90% of costumes for women are revealing. No one has been able to do this so far. I haven't been able to do it so far, because I look for them for my own purposes and can't really find them. So, unless you're saying women aren't capable of making their own choices, the only option is that they choose s…
/r/MensRights16/11/12 03:34 PM
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Who ever said that it was the fault of men? No one is blaming men for this. Yes, women can choose to wear slutty Halloween costumes, and I have no problem with this. However, there should be more options for women who don't want to dress in revealing clothing. You know there's a problem when only ~5% of Halloween costumes for women actually cover the majority of your body.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 01:34 PM
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Like I've said before, this is not necessarily true. Feminism states that women should be able to dress how they want, whether "slutty" or modest, and not be judged for it.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 01:30 PM
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Sure, in every country, people may not favor birth control, but plenty of third-world countries do. For instance, Nigeria's president understands that poverty is out of control with poor families having far too many children that they can support, and highly supports birth control.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 01:29 PM
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That's not necessarily true. Feminism claims that women should be able to dress how they want, which includes both revealing clothing and modest clothing.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 01:22 PM
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There are plenty of women who want costumes that aren't revealing. Women who don't have the time or skill to make their own costumes should have the option to purchase costumes that aren't overly revealing.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 02:12 AM
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I agree, but I also think that there should be at least a decent number of wholesale non-revealing costumes for women who don't have the time or the skills to make their own costume.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 02:07 AM
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That definitely didn't really pertain to what I was saying.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 02:06 AM
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I haven't really seen that. Local costume stores are a lot different because they tend to get costumes from different places than chain stores, which are more widespread. If you look on any Halloween website, about 90-95% of women's Halloween costumes are pretty revealing. If you know of any sites that have even like 50% non-revealing costumes or more, I'd like to see them for personal use.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 02:05 AM
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I think you are making an emotional appeal and disguising it as a "right". This is not an emotional appeal. It's fact. Pregnancy and childbirth is factually the number one killer of teenage girls. If you think this is emotional, fine - that doesn't make it any less true. We are not talking about a freedom of speech, religion, etc. You are talking about free handouts, from the government, from our tax dollars, transferring wealth to others. Once again, no one here has said that "right to have acc…
/r/MensRights15/11/12 02:02 AM
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No one has said that medical care should be free. The article did not say that, I did not say that. You are putting words in my mouth.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 01:57 AM
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There are plenty of women who do not want to buy revealing Halloween costumes. The fact of the matter is that non-revealing Halloween costumes for women literally either do not exist, or are 5% of the selection. Seriously, show me a website where even 50% of the Halloween costumes for women are "normal." You won't be able to find one.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 01:57 AM
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Pray tell, how are women not oppressed in third-world countries? And how am I being gynocentric and violating men's rights by saying women should have the right to contraception?
/r/MensRights15/11/12 01:55 AM
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Yes thats right. It is sort of like talking about any medicine to treat a disease except in this case the disease is being born female. An illness is an abnormality, an aberration from wellness. What does it say when all women by virtue of their very design (there is nothing wrong with them except they are female and have female parts) must have medicine by right of law in order to be well? Except, no one has ever stated that? These are completely strawman arguments. I do not disagree with any o…
/r/MensRights14/11/12 09:15 PM
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Has anybody who is upvoting this actually tried to find non-slutty Halloween costumes for women? Literally 95% of Halloween women's costumes I saw when shopping for Halloween were sexually revealing in some way.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 08:49 PM
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We're talking about fundamentally altering a human biological process, effectively tricking it through hormones gleaned from horse urine (not all contraceptives are like this, just birth control pills which is the most common)...what makes any of that a RIGHT? Wouldnt it be more of a right NOT to trick a biological process? You could say that about literally any medicine. All medicine alters the human body in ways that nature did not intend. Should people not have the right to access any medicin…
/r/MensRights14/11/12 08:15 PM
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So you have no other arguments, then?
/r/MensRights14/11/12 07:58 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_and_positive_rights
/r/MensRights14/11/12 07:45 PM
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Negative rights vs. positive rights, here. This is not saying that all birth control should be free, it is just saying that women should have access to it.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 07:37 PM
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For women in third-world countries, this is literally a matter of life and death for them, and indirectly, their already-born children. The right to life should be a right, not a privilege.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 07:25 PM
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Providing contraception to women, especially in poor countries, is extremely important for women's health. Pregnancy and childbirth is the number-1 killer of 15-19 year old girls. The dangers that pregnancy and childbirth complications cause women can have devastating consequences; even if they don't die during childbirth, they can get fistulas - a hole in the vagina that causes urine and feces to leak down constantly, ostracizing them from their families and causing later death if not surgicall…
/r/MensRights14/11/12 06:03 PM
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"Bitch" is a word used to degrade women, "nigger" is a word used to degrade black people, and "faggot" is a word used to degrade gay people. "Bitch" is misogynistic, "faggot" is homophobic, and "nigger" is racist.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 05:40 PM
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So you think that words like "nigger" and "faggot" are not racist or homophobic?
/r/MensRights12/11/12 05:27 PM
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But "bitch" is a sexist term used to degrade women. Literally, by definition, it is gendered. Both connotatively and denotatively.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 04:49 PM
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So if a man gets a degree in sociology, gender studies, etc. then does he exist solely for reproduction and sexual gratification of women?
/r/MensRights12/11/12 04:28 PM
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I'm not really sure what the issue is here. He never compliments her, they have a boring sex life, and he ignores her attempts to spice up their sex life when she buys lingerie. If a man was in a situation in which his wife never wanted sex, never complimented him, ignored his attempts to sexually please her, and never tried anything new in the bedroom, you'd be perfectly okay with him wanting to divorce her.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 04:01 PM
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If someone said, "I hope someone kills this nigger," would you think that's racist?
/r/MensRights12/11/12 03:51 PM
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Wait, so what I don't understand is how that cop arrested you at the gas station in the first place. How did he know where you were? How did he know what you looked like? Did your wife call the police and say "Hi, I think my husband is in town, please find him and arrest him immediately" and then some cops just took some time to drive around the city (especially a city as big as Baltimore) out in search of you just to arrest you? Then, when the cop found you at the gas station, he somehow knew w…
/r/MensRights07/11/12 08:51 PM
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Sort of like 70% of women can't come from vaginal sex? That is litterally your only point - and has yet to be sourced.. I sourced it, and you admitted yourself that you didn't want to click on it. I'm sorry that you didn't feel like reading the source I sent to you, but that is absolutely not my fault and I am not responsible for the fact that you didn't want to look at my source. Educate yourself on the topics you talk about. I'm not really sure what the purpose of this link was. It basically j…
/r/MensRights05/11/12 03:58 PM
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One unsubstantiated claim after another - followed shortly by ignorance. It's impossible to have an educated conversation with someone who "knows everything" yet nothing at all. Then ask me for sources like I've asked of you, instead of complaining about how I haven't given any sources. You need to educate yourself on the issues you talk about - otherwise it's a complete waste of yours and my time. Literally the most blatantly ignorant comments I've ever seen. Come up with a real argument instea…
/r/MensRights05/11/12 03:46 PM
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I already sent you many sources. It seems as though you're rehashing the same points over and over again because you can't come up with a legitimate argument.
/r/MensRights05/11/12 03:36 PM
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No, not all women have 3 ways of obtaining an orgasm. 70% of women only have 1 way of obtaining an orgasm - through clitoral stimulation.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 10:22 PM
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You need to reread. As many of my points have clearly gone straight over your head - and your responses are directly proving my point. How about pointing out specific instances and breaking my post down point-by-point like I am with you, instead of just making broad statements? Also - I've never seen an MRA claim that one instance of rape is less severe than another. You're quite blatantly pulling this information from no where. You probably read a troll post. Nope, very untrue. I most certainly…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 05:38 PM
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Google is not a source - try again. Google leads to many sources. I could copy and paste to you all the links that turned on on the search, but I figured you're a big boy and can do it yourself. You mentioned that your intact bf feels little pleasure during orgasm - now imagine the overwhelming majority of his nerves are amputated and the last remaining erotgenic tissue (the glans) callouses - further reducing pleasure. Right, and he still said that it's better than not orgasming at all. Lol. Al…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 12:31 AM
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Actually, under Obamacare, birth control pills are only free for women who have insurance that covers prescription medications.
/r/MensRights31/10/12 07:28 PM
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I'm talking to a wall apparently. Literally the only thin you have is an unsourced claim that 70% of women can't orgasm without their external clitoris. A quick google search verifies what I've been saying. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&site=&source=hp&q=percent+of+women+orgasm+from+penetration I guarantee, that all of those 70% of women just have difficulty reaching orgasm. Just like men. I've been masturbating since I was 12 and sexually active since I was 16, and I'm 20 now. I …
/r/MensRights29/10/12 08:00 PM
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We're talking about the issue of MGM vs FGM, are we not? Since we are not talking about GM on an individual basis, it stands to reason that we are talking about the issues as a whole. When boys are cut at 100x the rate of girls - then yes, prevalence is an issue to be weighted into. Since when were we not talking about GM on an individual basis? :| That's what you've been doing all along, starting with your ranking of different types of GM. While there are many different sources, this is an arti…
/r/MensRights28/10/12 11:22 PM
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I actually have that poster, haha.
/r/MensRights28/10/12 03:19 PM
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Firstly, youre arguing that cutting 1 female is worse than cutting 100 males. No, I never argued that. Strawman. Secondly, you have not listened to me.. There's a growing list of sources that make the claim that circumcised men are incapable of orgasm. Source? Ejaculation is not the same as orgasm - get that through your thick head (ive asked you repeatedly now to stop confusing orgasm with ejaculation).. Calm down and stop with the childish insults. Thirdly, clitoral removal occurs only in the …
/r/MensRights28/10/12 03:09 PM
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No girl wears high heels when they're alone, haha. I can guarantee the second we walk in the door the heels are on the god damn ground.
/r/MensRights28/10/12 02:54 PM
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If we look to the fact that ~70% of victims of a certain procedure will completely lose the ability to orgasm, compared to ~0% of victims of another procedure, then yes, the first one is worse. It just depends on what you value more - gliding action, or the ability to orgasm at all?
/r/MensRights25/10/12 11:49 PM
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My preferences that women shouldn't have to damage their backs, literally, in order to please men?
/r/MensRights25/10/12 11:37 PM
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It's weird how you got -8 downvotes for saying this, but johnlukepicard said the same thing and got +9 upvotes.
/r/MensRights24/10/12 06:57 PM
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Trust me, it is so full of shit, but it's also very entertaining. Lol.
/r/MensRights24/10/12 12:54 AM
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Sure, that's fine that your girlfriend likes salads. There is nothing wrong with liking salads, and I'm not sure where this idea is coming from. There is, however, something wrong with preferring women to wear shoes that are both dangerous and damaging to the body, preferring that women don't eat much food while you can eat whatever you want, and preferring that your girlfriend spends stupid amounts of money on cosmetic procedures that don't actually add to the attractiveness of a woman.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 10:27 PM
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You said it was comparable. Removing the clitoris renders 70% of women unable to orgasm. Removing the frenulum renders 0% of men unable to orgasm. They are in no way comparable.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 10:15 PM
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Then why do you keep saying that one is worse than the other?
/r/MensRights23/10/12 10:04 PM
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Source? I've seen studies about chimps playing with toys, but none of the conclusions ended up like that.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 09:52 PM
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I also like girls who eat hamburgers, wear sandals, and apply eye liner. Can you understand that? That's better than wanting a girl who goes hungry, kills her feet, and spends money on something that makes no cosmetic difference.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 04:19 AM
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So your type of girl is one who eats unfilling food that will leave her hungry, wears shoes that hurts her feet and damages her back, and spends ridiculous amounts of money on a useless cosmetic procedure? I don't really understand that.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 03:49 AM
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You're looking only at the numerical effects, but you are completely ignoring the outcomes of those effects. Losing 20,000 nerve endings means little when you can still orgasm just like any other man would. Losing 8,000 nerve endings means a lot when you completely lose the ability to ever have an orgasm ever again. You need to look at the effects, not just the numbers. If you had the choice to lose 20,000 nerve endings but still had the ability to orgasm, or lose 8,000 nerve endings but lose th…
/r/MensRights23/10/12 03:20 AM
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It seems to me at this point that you are replacing logical arguments with appeals to emotion, and contradictory ones at that. Instead of addressing what I've been saying, you're just using emotional arguments instead. That isn't going to fly in a rational discussion.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 02:18 AM
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I am well aware that MGM is more common than FGM and I have never suggested otherwise. You are also leaving out phase I and II FGM as well however which also remove part or all of the clitoris. Look, understandably, removal of the foreskin causes many issues. I am not denying that. But taking away one's ability to orgasm is worse than taking away some sexual pleasure, gliding action, etc. Given the choice, would you choose to lose your foreskin but retain the ability to orgasm, or retain your fo…
/r/MensRights23/10/12 01:05 AM
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Source that the clitoris is homologous to the frenulum?
/r/MensRights23/10/12 01:01 AM
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Source?
/r/MensRights22/10/12 05:35 PM
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I mean, we weren't talking about circumcision at all. We were only talking about numbers 14 and 15 on your list - pricking/damaging the penis vs. the clitoris.
/r/MensRights22/10/12 05:34 PM
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No, it's not okay. I am not in support of nonconsensual male circumcision and never will be, and will obviously not be getting my child circumcised if I have one. But you also have to understand that although removing the foreskin of the penis decreases sensation, it does not remove all possibilities for orgasm. All circumcised men (provide it's not a botched circumcision) can still have orgasms and can still ejaculate. The vast majority (70%+) of women will not be able to orgasm without a clito…
/r/MensRights22/10/12 05:28 PM
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Type Ib, IIb and IIc all remove part or all of the clitoris. That would be akin to removing all or part of the glans.
/r/MensRights22/10/12 05:24 PM
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But we weren't talking about circumcision here. We were talking about damage to the glans, not foreskin removal.
/r/MensRights20/10/12 08:08 PM
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Source that damaging the glans will impair the ability to regulate bodily functions?
/r/MensRights20/10/12 07:49 PM
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But guyyyyys. Men should be given harsher sentences because they're men and therefore bad! Women who commit crimes are just victims of the patriarchy! /s
/r/MensRights20/10/12 07:37 PM
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Because you literally ranked damaging the glans as worse than damaging the clitoris.
/r/MensRights20/10/12 07:34 PM
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You are ranking forms of genital mutilation from worst to least bad. Each time, you rank MGM as worse than FGM.
/r/MensRights20/10/12 07:27 PM
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Why not? Only a tiny percentage of women can orgasm from cervical stimulation. Telling women "It's okay that your clitoris is gone, you still have your cervix!" is like telling men "It's okay that your penis is gone, you still have your testicles!"
/r/MensRights20/10/12 07:23 PM
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So basically, mutilating a penis is always worse than mutilating a clitoris.
/r/MensRights20/10/12 07:07 PM
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The two procedures are very, very different. They're not the same thing at all, and trying to compare the two by reducing them to just "having their genitals mutilated" leaves out the very important differences between FGM and MGM.
/r/MensRights20/10/12 07:04 PM
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But they cut off different parts of the genitals. Having a clitoris removed is like having a penis, or at least the glans, removed. They are not the same thing.
/r/MensRights20/10/12 07:01 PM
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By nerve count alone on the average MGM is worse then even the worst forms of FGM. How do I figure? Well, besides having 2.5x the nerve count there are also 11 additional nerve dense tissue types removed during MGM. Conversely, the female victims of phase III FGM still are capable of orgasm and have multiple erogenous zones still intact inside the vagina. Gspot, anterior and posterior fornix, and in some cases the cervix itself. That still doesn't change the fact that most, if not all, circumcis…
/r/MensRights20/10/12 06:57 PM
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The FBI said at the time that they changed it because of lobbying by a consortium of feminists and women's groups and the feminists also bragged about it ; this you know. So feminists changed the definition of rape to include male victims, then? The NISVS I suppose has no direct link with feminism although who else has a motivation to hide male victims of rape and misrepresent their numbers downwards like that? I am not aware of any other well funded group of anti-male bigots around. So you admi…
/r/MensRights20/10/12 06:46 PM
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It's not a step in the right direction. gender neutral definitions of rape have been around for decades now. The feminists chose to go with a sexist one. And now they are falsely spreading the idea that male rape is included when it is not. That's exactly the same with the NISVS. It's disinformation. But gender-neutral definitions of rape haven't been around for decades now. At no point in history in America could a man have been "raped" in the legal sense of the term. You said yourself that fem…
/r/MensRights20/10/12 06:43 PM
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Actually, most feminist websites I see include problems of male rape in their descriptions of rape culture. http://www.shakesville.com/2009/10/rape-culture-101.html Also featured on Finally a Feminism 101 Blog: http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/rape-culture-101/ http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Rape_culture
/r/MensRights20/10/12 06:39 PM
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But it includes men raped by men, which was not included before. Is it perfect? No. Do changes still need to be made? Yes. But is it a step in the right direction? Yes.
/r/MensRights19/10/12 09:29 PM
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The FBI and NISVS. I didn't see the other link you posted, so I can't comment on that.
/r/MensRights19/10/12 09:28 PM
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Given what we know about men in power not using that power to help what you can colloquially call "the common man," it would seem to me that our society has a hierarchy like that of some of our ape cousins, notably chimpanzees where there are a few men at the top in power, then women, then the vast majority of men at the bottom. The men at the top seem to wield their power by and large over the common man for the benefit of themselves and women. This has little to do with media representations o…
/r/MensRights19/10/12 09:27 PM
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But that has nothing to do with feminists.
/r/MensRights19/10/12 09:18 PM
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But you just said that feminist groups changed the definition of rape to include men. The change was made at the request of a group of feminist groups
/r/MensRights19/10/12 09:17 PM
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No. They do not. No MRA has ever said that women rape men more then men rape women. I've actually seen this statement made before. No MRA has said that men should receive more assistance for rape then women. No MRA has advocated rape awareness campaigns that ignore female victims of male rapists. Really? I haven't seen very many MRA's standing up for female rape victims. Not according to the most popular understanding. That's the point of the concept of rape culture! Many people don't understand…
/r/MensRights19/10/12 09:16 PM
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Supporting campaigns that promote rape as male-on-female almost exclusively(based on flawed statistics) does indeed minimize other kinds of rape. Sure, but MRA's also tend to focus on female-on-male rape more than male-on-female rape. Does this mean that MRA's minimize male-on-female rape? People victim blame victims of every crime including child abuse. No one gives a free pass to male rapists of female victims. They sometimes don't believe the woman in question was raped which is their right. …
/r/MensRights19/10/12 01:01 AM
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I'm sorry, I wasn't talking about fictional movies including children's movies which cannot be said to be "for men" because I live in the real world. I was talking about literal legal rights and freedoms. Who is represented by those who have power? Not men. The fact that the sidebar links of this subreddit contain info on so many glaringly unjust issues present in this society in which you claim is run by men and for men speaks volumes there, and debunks your "men are in power therefore men bene…
/r/MensRights19/10/12 12:56 AM
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Is there any evidence that the people opposing this law are feminists?
/r/MensRights19/10/12 12:39 AM
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Sorry, but if I told you "Men brainwash their children" unsupported you wouldn't be too happy about that. I cannot humor your belief that all women brainwash their children into their beliefs.
/r/MensRights19/10/12 12:35 AM
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Wait, so you're upset that feminist groups wanted the definition of rape changed to include men?
/r/MensRights19/10/12 12:34 AM
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I think you are misrepresenting what movies fall into which category. The appropriate male counterpart of romcoms (which a lot of guys like btw) would be guy comedies (think dumb and dumber, which some women do like). That's why these two genres have become unlikely bedfellows in movies like This Means War in an increasingly common and popular genre I like to call romcoms-in-dumbguycomedy-clothing. More to the point, romcoms tend to gross far more than dumb guy comedies. Except keep in mind that…
/r/MensRights19/10/12 12:33 AM
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I looked over the page and I didn't see your post.
/r/MensRights19/10/12 12:26 AM
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Being more concerned about male-on-female rape doesn't automatically mean you are minimizing other kinds of rape, in the same way that advocating gay rights doesn't mean you're minimizing civil rights. "Rape culture" is not the belief that men teach each other to rape - where are you getting this information? I mostly see the term "rape culture" used when people victim-blame or give a "free pass" to rapists.
/r/MensRights19/10/12 12:25 AM
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Not every man controls the media and government, but most of the people who control the media and government are men.
/r/MensRights19/10/12 12:22 AM
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I don't really watch videos. It's easier to just read an article, especially because my computer is so slow and choppy. If there was an article about this I'd be glad to check it out.
/r/MensRights18/10/12 01:49 AM
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Actually, the FBI definition of rape changed a year or two ago to include male victims in the definition of rape.
/r/MensRights18/10/12 01:47 AM
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Sure, I will agree that society as a whole minimizes male-on-female rape. But is there any proof that the average feminist minimizes male-on-female rape more than the average person in general?
/r/MensRights18/10/12 01:46 AM
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Source?
/r/MensRights18/10/12 01:46 AM
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Source?
/r/MensRights18/10/12 01:45 AM
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"The people who control the government and media are mostly men, this doesn't mean that mostly men control the government and media." Yeah... Look at what you just wrote there.
/r/MensRights18/10/12 01:45 AM
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That's actually very untrue. It's much easier getting women to see movies geared towards guys than it is to get men to see movies geared towards girls. While little Sally won't have a problem going to see Wall-E, you're going to have a hard time getting Johnny to see The Princess and the Frog. Andrea would be excited to see The Avengers, but you're going to have to twist Andrew's arm and leg to get him to see Legally Blonde. Not only that, but the vast majority of characters in movies are male, …
/r/MensRights18/10/12 01:41 AM
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Like I said, the topic asked why women think men are the source of society's views on women, and I simply gave an answer - because men control the government and the media. As to how that can change, I don't know, but I was simply stating the reasons for the said beliefs.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 07:49 PM
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It looks like almost all these quotes were from the 1980s and older. That's several decades ago. If you want to know a modern feminist perspective, why don't you go on /r/AskFeminists and ask to see if they believe men can get raped?
/r/MensRights17/10/12 07:37 PM
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I don't think it's a common view of feminists to say that men can't be raped. Sentiments like that usually come from ignorant people, not feminists.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 06:54 PM
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Keep in mind that the media and society is controlled by men - the President is a man; Congress/House of Reps/Senate is mostly men; 95% of movie directors are men; most porn directors are men; etc. Almost all messages put out by the media are put out by men.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 06:44 PM
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Okay, I'm a troll because I was asked for sources where MRA's advocate the legalization of sex with 12-year-olds, and I provided them. Right. Haha.
/r/MensRights15/10/12 08:49 PM
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This is not something like weed that only affects the user. This affects 10, 12, 14-year-old girls that you guys think you have a "right" to have sex with. I'm not bashing MRA's because I pointed out where they think it should be legal to fuck 12-year-olds. Those are things that they said, not me.
/r/MensRights15/10/12 06:36 PM
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He said himself that he thinks it should be decriminalized. If you think statutory rape should be decriminalized, you're basically saying statutory rape is okay.
/r/MensRights15/10/12 06:07 PM
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I live in Ohio, so that probably tells you nothing considering it's the biggest swing state ever haha. I think the dude who told me that was just an asshole who thinks men are better than women, I don't think it has to do with how liberal or conservative your state is.
/r/MensRights14/10/12 11:51 PM
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We actually aren't discussing what the OP was talking about at this point. We are talking about what IHAQ said - specifically, making inappropriate sexual advances.
/r/MensRights14/10/12 11:04 PM
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Well, that's basically what we're discussing here, lol.
/r/MensRights14/10/12 10:40 PM
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How does that matter?
/r/MensRights14/10/12 10:30 PM
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"It should be a misdemeanor or just disapproved of instead of a major crime" becomes "40 year olds having sex with 13 year old girls is perfectly fine." Um, that basically is saying it's perfectly fine. If you think statutory rape should be decriminalized, you're basically saying statutory rape is okay. "If she's old enough to know what sex is, she's old enough to fuck 40 year old dudes!" is not a law our society should be run by.
/r/MensRights14/10/12 10:20 PM
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How many times has a successful sexual interaction come out of "HEY BITCH! NICE TITS! WANNA SUCK MY DICK?"
/r/MensRights14/10/12 07:41 PM
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Sources?
/r/MensRights14/10/12 07:31 PM
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I don't see how someone could look at your math test with an A on it then look you in the eye and say "you are so-so at math". That makes zero sense no matter how I try to frame it. Considering I've gotten A's on engineering tests and people tell me it's just because I'm a woman, you have to realize that sexism has no logic behind it.
/r/MensRights14/10/12 07:14 PM
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Well, considering one of the downvotes was from me, and one of the downvotes was from my roommate who I showed the comment to, and neither of us consider ourselves MRA's (we are both egalitarians), the downvotes weren't even coming from MRA's. Also, here's another link where an MRA is heavily upvoted for saying there should be no age of consent: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/cxxqe/age_of_consent_is_misandry/c0w3dze
/r/MensRights14/10/12 05:09 PM
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Um, it means I haven't decided about how I feel on the subject yet. Lol. No need to get so offended.
/r/MensRights14/10/12 04:56 PM
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Aaand I never said that.
/r/MensRights14/10/12 12:55 AM
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"Wait... so a 42-year-old man has consensual sex with a 13-year-old girl, and you're saying it IS sexual assault/rape? Rape is forcing someone to have sex against their will. If she agreed to it, it's not rape unless she had a disability. If they're at an age where they understand what sex is, they can understand the consequences, they're past the point where it's all "boy/girl germs" then i think they are mature enough to consent. The problem with the laws as they are is it doesn't take into ac…
/r/MensRights13/10/12 10:43 PM
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I haven't chosen a stance on that subject yet.
/r/MensRights13/10/12 09:52 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/xv1ts/appalling_man_convicted_of_sexual_assaulting/
/r/MensRights13/10/12 09:52 PM
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Well, I hate to say it, but there have been several times where MRA's agree that 40 year old men should be able to have sex with 13 year old girls, because "It's mentally maturity, not age, that matters."
/r/MensRights13/10/12 06:42 PM
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I don't think my question is confusing. Most posters in the thread were able to give an opinion on the subject. The scenario does not have to be realistic - it is simply a matter of, "If you think men should have certain rights, do you think women should have those same rights?" At any rate, abortion being illegal is a very likely scenario - in fact, it is the scenario in many many countries worldwide...
/r/MensRights13/10/12 06:34 PM
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But we're talking about from an MRA standpoint - MRA's believe that men should be allowed to sign away their legal responsibilities for their children. And if they believe that, shouldn't they also believe that men should be obligated to pay for half of pregnancy and childbirth costs if abortion is illegal? That is the question I am posing in this topic.
/r/MensRights13/10/12 04:41 PM
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Females are the only members of society with reproductive rights and choices. Make sure you know what topic you're posting in. Just read the title of the thread... If abortion is illegal. Unless raped, every child conceived is a direct result of a voluntary choice made by a female, and only a female. And a male. Lol. There are no laws preventing a female from proccuring an abortion if she so chooses. None. Actually, there are PLENTY of laws restricting and preventing women from having abortions …
/r/MensRights13/10/12 04:39 PM
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It's not touchy, it's a fact. You saying I'm being "touchy" doesn't make your post any less ad hominem.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 04:17 PM
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Equality means that there are 0 differences between men and women and that is just not true Nobody thinks that equality means there are 0 differences between men and women. It means that there should be equal rights for men and women. men are built to be bigger and stronger than women, women are built to nurture children, since women are weakened by childbearing this gives men the role of provider and protector. "Weakened" by childbearing? Most women are perfectly capable of going about their da…
/r/MensRights12/10/12 04:16 PM
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So you are saying that the government should pay for women's pregnancy and childbirth costs? If so, I can accept this as a fair, egalitarian response.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 04:08 PM
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If I have no reproductive rights, how can I possibly have reproductive responsibilities? I would add that I consented to sex and not procreation. But if women don't have reproductive rights either, how can they possibly have reproductive responsibilities? I would add that these women consented to sex and not procreation. Don't you mean women who allow themselves to become pregnant? Wait, so women just "allow" themselves to become pregnant? They do it all by themselves, without men?
/r/MensRights12/10/12 04:08 PM
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If MRA's think that if women have the right to sign away legal responsibilities to their child (abortion), then men should be able to do that too, then they should also think that if women don't have the right to sign away legal responsibilities to their child, men shouldn't be able to either.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 04:07 PM
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Ad hominem.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 04:06 PM
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Uh, not very...
/r/MensRights10/10/12 06:41 PM
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Like I said, this topic is only discussion for pregnancy and childbirth, not what happens to the baby when it is born. What happens to the baby after it is born is irrelevant to this discussion. Yes
/r/MensRights10/10/12 06:30 PM
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I can't believe people are actually upvoting this ignorant post.
/r/MensRights10/10/12 05:42 PM
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First of all, the study says nothing about 10 US colleges. It just says that this was taken from one small metropolitan community. Second of all, this is 45 false rape accusations. In one city. Literally the only conclusion you can draw from this study is that in a nine year period in a small, unnamed, community, there were 45 POSSIBLY false rape allegations. Not to mention, not all of the "false" rape accusations were actually confirmed false. This "45" number includes women who withdrew their …
/r/MensRights09/10/12 01:09 PM
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Wow, that's one terrible study. Sample size: 45 false rape accusations in ONE small metropolitan community. The fluctuations were ridiculously high. (27% false one year, 70% the next year.) The "false allegations" also include, like you said, reports that were recanted (not necessarily because they were false) and women who took polygraph tests. Yeah, this is a terrible study. 45 cases in a small town doesn't mean a thing.
/r/MensRights09/10/12 01:29 AM
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Wait, so where does it say that FEMINISTS "trip on their own feet" and feminists say it is wrong for transgender people to abuse Title IX? EDIT: Wait, why am I getting downvoted? Nothing in this article suggests that feminists are the ones who are saying what the OP claims. It seems to me here like the OP is just trying to blame feminists for something they never did. All the downvotes I'm getting pretty much confirm that the OP made this up for just to get a rise from the MRA community.
/r/MensRights09/10/12 01:19 AM
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I can agree with that to an extent, but it sounds to me as though you are advocating that men do things such as get rich & famous or sell drugs to make up for the fact that they are shitty in bed. That's not an accurate way of looking at things. Women aren't going to stick around if you give them free drugs but suck in bed. Instead, they'll just cheat on you with/leave you for someone who is good in bed.
/r/MensRights07/10/12 07:07 PM
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Because remember, women don't enjoy sex or orgasms.
/r/MensRights07/10/12 06:49 PM
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I think we can agree that someone who cares about their kids and holds them is a better parent than one who completely ignores their kids, lol.
/r/MensRights07/10/12 06:32 PM
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It seems as though all this seems to suggest is that women are the natural care-givers. This seems to support the idea that women should be given custody more often than men. The more posts like this I read, the more it seems that MRA's are more anti-feminist than they are pro-men's rights. If it were the other way around, this link would literally never be posted here.
/r/MensRights07/10/12 06:22 PM
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Actually, the study showed that male monkeys prefer toy cars, but female monkeys were equally likely to play with cars and dolls. Get your facts straight.
/r/MensRights07/10/12 06:07 PM
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