Laetitian Archive

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1	Women should stop having sex for free "might as well" and "have to" are very far apart. You're not acknowledging the response. The commenter pointed out that they could just not have sex if they didn't have enough internal motivation to do it. You're coming up with consolation prizes to compensate for a lack of payment. But now you'd have to demonstrate that women need validation so badly that their desire for validation is stronger than their aversion to having sex. You're still not addressing the original question: Why not just no…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/25 01:22 PM
–	Women should stop having sex for free u/MasterAd6260 Your logic really just stopped there, huh?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/25 11:58 AM
1	What is the appeal of casual sex for women? The idea that anything close to a "significant majority" of women will avoid him because he looks like (and maybe even behaves) like a stereotypical "player" is naive idealization of average women. That's the RedPill take. The "All women are the same" take. I've been around in the world long enough to be confident in my rejection of it. I doubt we'll be able to convince each other on this subject. My best attempt would be: Consider that not most of the "many" (assuming you're right) women you ca…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 01:01 PM
2	What is the appeal of casual sex for women? The problem about this typical RedPill opinion is that you're convincing yourself that the women PerfectJawline dates constitute something akin to "the majority of women who can pull it off." But that's just not reality. People have different priorities. Many different women would interact differently with PerfectJawline, because they prioritise fun with friends/family over meaningless sex (they might exchange a few words with him, maybe let him dance with them or join their party for an hour or…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 12:43 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread When did this sub become a refuge for blackpillers?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 12:28 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread If you can remove the social stigma of sleeping with a prostitute, you can remove the social stigma of not getting laid, and remove the issue at the root. Let them jerk themselves off without feeling like failures and fill their social lives with other relationships. Much more efficient than forcing women to meet that demand.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 12:18 AM
1	If you're a man and your wife if trying to slowly murder you through bleach poisoning, you have to collect months' worth of video footage from multiple angles in order for the police to do anything. Honestly, stopping favours? Pretty justified reaction in principle, if you strip away the obsessive excel sheet. I say this specifically because stopping to dish out favours is a much more rational reaction to feeling that a relationship has been one-sided for too long. If she feels like she's putting in too much and not getting enough back (perhaps because he's exhausted and has to focus on parts of his own life for a while) it's good if she's able to invest her energy into her own concerns unt…	/r/MensRights	29/09/23 12:17 PM
1	Women, how would you prefer to be pursued in real life? Okay, but remember how 5 responses ago you asserted that basically no ("real" was implied, I assume) man ever would possibly land in that situation?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/21 01:23 PM
3	Women, how would you prefer to be pursued in real life? I like how you think that's an argument. "Consent wasn't the tool that coerced her into accepting his advances, therefore it's not worthwhile." And that's what you think matters to the outside observer here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/21 01:17 PM
3	Do womens level of intelligence mean nothing? If it means nothing for men, why do Red Pill communities base half their opinions on "All Women Are The Same" doctrines, and why would the intelligence discussed here not play into those? (e.g. through distinction between those who succumb to their instincts and coping mechanisms because of their limited intellect/education, just like men of the same social group do do, and those who have higher values in life just like men of the same social group do.) The fact that you don't make this connecti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/21 01:01 PM
1	I made a sub for MGTOW! It’s r/OurOwnWay for both genders. I think that's probably your right. I also still think you exaggerage both how disassociated you truly are from this part of life (not just being lonely, but also the opportunity to see other people - women in particular - as individuals who can aspire to outgrow their stereotypes, sympathise with others' interests, make great contributions to the world, and understand their peers through rational discussion and a willingness to settle disputes) as well as how problematic the other side is. But …	/r/AntiFeminists	08/11/21 10:19 PM
1	I made a sub for MGTOW! It’s r/OurOwnWay for both genders. The question isn't whether you "can" use your own resources, it's why you would deny yourself connections just to make a point. You can be self-sufficient, and still enjoy being there for others and being deeply understood by others as a crucial part of the human experience. Not to mention the issue of other people who do require others to care for them, which you willfully leave out, because you know full well that you wouldn't leave the helpless of the world out to die, if there wasn't already…	/r/AntiFeminists	08/11/21 05:20 PM
2	I think most men know their league of who is too hot for them. But do women just NOT have an awareness of who is too attractive for them? A ton of men who think they are staying in their own league just don't realise how socially inept (that being the core problem, and I'm not just talking about conversation skills; honesty and seeking emotionally fulfilling social connections are just as significant to the issue), unhygienic and uninteresting they are. I think their unawareness/denial, paired with the fact that women in a similar group might be more likely to get desparate/inexperienced hookups, is swaying this conversation far m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/21 02:36 PM
1	Hypergamy for Dummies Women can judge men by their status. Many do. Many don't. As men do the other way around. Doesn't entitle any man to demand being adored for his status.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/21 02:28 PM
1	Hypergamy for Dummies ????? How was this accepted as an argument. This is some serious almostselfaware shit. Yes, rich people can be undesirable, too. It's almost as if social standing and wealth weren't the meaning of life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/21 02:03 PM
1	I made a sub for MGTOW! It’s r/OurOwnWay for both genders. Women's behavior speaks for itself. Some men just wake up and can look at women objectively rather than these benevolent emotional creatures. Women are ultimately human, and humans can be very very shitty. And we now know women are not less shitty than men. They're just shitty in different ways. As for marriage, it's an antiquated institution rife with risk for men. All of the accountability of the old system with "progressive new women" for whom vows are just words in a church. A really bad ide…	/r/AntiFeminists	07/11/21 01:52 PM
1	Most guys aren't really trying that hard That has nothing to do with blue pill or red pill. That's just people leading simple lives being simple-minded, and honestly mostly just not ready for the complex world of the modern era. That problem transcends all society. Bruh, have you looked at Red Pill faq handbooks? You'd have to go to the most shameless sects hidden in the backwoods country to find more direct populist indoctrination appealing to young men's fears. Every group has recruiters making themselves as accessible as possible …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/21 05:17 PM
1	What women say they want in a partner and what they actually want are two different things Okay, change the word to "most" and your counterargument falls down like a card-house. What? I just told you I wouldn't even buy it if you said it was 40% of all sex. Or are you trying to say you're reducing your claim to "40% of most sex" - and then wtf is that supposed to mean? ALL women are innately (...) Just once listen to what individuals tell you about themselves and don't assume you know better because of statistics and predisposition. The wealth of a world that would open up for you. Co…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/21 05:01 PM
1	Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand? I don't have to display the "feathers of success" to attract some idiotic parasitic mate. Gj. Literally everyone on the blue pill is striving towards symbiotic relationships. Who are you arguing with?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/21 04:54 PM
1	Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand? "Some people are obsessed with status" => "Women are all the same and not worth my time." Given how far of a leap you can jump, you are too well in shape to be so miserable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/21 04:51 PM
2	Most guys aren't really trying that hard But again, what's your basis for feeling so superior over the singing men? Society rewards men who chase and score. Life rewards people who chase anything. Effort isn't a bad thing, it's expression of agency. If you have a problem with that, you have a problem with life. Most of us have been there, but most of us also realise that life is too good to stay there. For a healthy person, expending more effort in the right proportions of mental-to-physical doesn't make them more exhausted; it just ke…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/21 04:48 PM
2	What women say they want in a partner and what they actually want are two different things You aren't accounting for any of the factors I've listed. Here is the question you should be looking to answer if you were really interested to find out the natural sex drives of people: "If men and women were in their ideal relationship dynamic, with the right values of their lives fulfilled, would a great deal of them (30-40% is all it needs for your accusations of women decidedly going more for high status than men to be completely thwarted; because the rest around it would normalise out) enj…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/21 12:38 PM
1	What women say they want in a partner and what they actually want are two different things Yes, it does need to be a hill to be fought on, but not because the difference can't be tolerated, but because your overgeneralisation is the crux of the problem with the Red Pill. They aren't outliers, they are part of a diverse group of preferences and your compulsion to shove them into binary differences makes you miserable and creates isolation, depression, objectification and mistreatment in the people your kind preach to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/21 12:24 PM
1	What women say they want in a partner and what they actually want are two different things Sorry, before we go on here, did you read my edit?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/21 12:18 PM
2	What women say they want in a partner and what they actually want are two different things Yeah, sorry, my dude, I have the real life data to counter you on that one. I've been with women with higher sex drives than me and women with lower sex drives than me, and a fair number of balanced equal temperaments, and I can guarantee you there are plenty women of all types in that regard. The problem with science in this subject is that it very easily gets muddled in all kinds of directions by self-presentation, wishful thinking, differences between good and bad relationships, and cultural …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/21 12:12 PM
1	What women say they want in a partner and what they actually want are two different things Jesus, I thought it was a hypothetical question, I didn't realize you were going to go into a hysterical fit if I didn't directly answer it. Chill it with the condescension, big man. It was hypothetical, but it's still the hypothetical question concerned with the essence of my comment. If you're going to respond with a oneliner, I can't continue a discussion with you if that oneliner addresses a minor side point while avoiding the core. Is your claim that the women you had sex with have, on av…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/21 10:26 AM
2	What women say they want in a partner and what they actually want are two different things He said, chuckling about the naive folly of the docile sheep, ... ...while accepting the most convenient answer to align with his prejudices, and ignoring all the contradictions about it. I printed the relevant question you need to face in bold from the start. Get back to me when you are ready not to willingly read past it anymore.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/21 09:10 AM
1	What women say they want in a partner and what they actually want are two different things That guy said "In more recent history," as a scientist conducting a study analysing genetic material from many millennia ago. Pretty sure "more recent history" here doesn't mean "today". And anything besides "today" that it might mean, even if it somehow haanalppened to be something as recent as 1900 AD (doubt it), would still be substantially different from today in terms of global wealth, human advancement and cultural norms. And even if it did mean today. Click through the link to the genetic…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/21 08:57 AM
1	Most guys aren't really trying that hard What's the difference in reward/result between current you and the social guys? Sounds like you both aren't having sex and spending your days the way you like - with you masturbating and being a full-time misogynist online, and them hanging out and "singing songs." How is your alternative any better? Yes, it is true: if you make yourself be social purely for the sake of getting sex, you'll be miserable. You can still be social for the sake of enjoying social contact. And if you don't like that, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/21 06:16 AM
1	Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand? And yet you choose to grant the most credence/significance to the latter group's definition of value.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/21 05:06 AM
7	What women say they want in a partner and what they actually want are two different things I don't necessarily think the tendency doesn't exist. I took issue with the 90%. And I would even have taken issue with it if you had said those 10% had 40% of all sex. There are certainly a great number of women who like to fill their lives with as much status, physical attractiveness and luxury as they can get their hands on. Just like there are a great number of men doing the same. And it might possibly even be true that the women who don't fit all too well into that group, on average, are st…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/21 04:46 AM
6	What women say they want in a partner and what they actually want are two different things Beautifully concise.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/21 04:34 AM
12	What women say they want in a partner and what they actually want are two different things Then it would mathematically follow that 90% of all women are satisfied with 10% of the sexual time of the men they sleep with. You must think women's sex drives are pathetically low for this to work out. Sounds like you've had/observed some relationships with unfortunately mismatched libidos. Not to mention you assume that the majority of those 10% of men must be spending pretty much their whole day just fucking. Like, nothing about this works out, not even if you were being hyperbolic by a fac…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/21 04:13 AM
1	Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand? You're painting a fantasy image of reality to explain why your efforts of self-improvement didn't immediately lead to success with people before you also went full-on redpill mode, instead of just accepting that people just have individual preferences and circumstances affecting the way they interact with you. Nothing about having your priorities sorted out to value things beyond physical attraction and wealth is fake, and shallow people are ten times more likely to talk about people behind thei…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/21 04:03 AM
0	Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand? You're not wrong in any of this, but it still doesn't justify hyperfixating on the gym over something as simple as, say, just going hiking a few times a month. Making fitness exclusively a challenge to perform at is almost bound to lead you into the territory where you achieve the opposite of the benefits you listed, with your mood and sex drive swinging from unregulated testosterone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/21 01:23 AM
3	Where does the line between "in shape/takes care of himself" and "gym bro/rat/etc" stand? Have you considered changing the social circles you dwell in and finding people who have interests besides showing off their pretty catches? You base your assumptions about humanity on a bunch of vapid club freaks and trust-fund party kids.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/21 01:12 AM