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| 1 | Let's stop using 'incel' as an insultI think if we're not admitting that the literal definition is hogwash and counter productive, and we're going with the figurative one, then context matters, just as you described, and a generalization can be appropriate. While we shouldn't make generalizations about people/individuals, we absolutely can about identifiable groups in an academic sense, and justify arguments such as "there is a prevalence of predatory behavior among people who identify as incels". Such propositions can be proven tr… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/23 04:10 PM |
| 0 | Let's stop using 'incel' as an insultThe mods made it clear that we must use "incel" in the literal sense, so it's not fair for you to change that now that it doesn't support your argument. Involuntary = outside of your control celibate = abstaining from sexual relations You cannot abstain from an activity unless that activity is voluntary. To abstain means to "restrain yourself". Which should inform a reasonable person that the term "incel" is an oxymoron when used literally. The figurative definition for incel is quite a bit diff… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/23 03:43 PM |
| -5 | Let's stop using 'incel' as an insultHere's the thing.. celibacy includes masturbation, which means on a fundamental level you cannot be involuntarily celibate, so to claim they have "no control" is simply unfounded at best, and gaslighting at worst. Furthermore, by making the claim that their condition is "involuntary" you encourage men to no longer take responsibility for their own fate. A healthier view is that you are in fact able to change yourself into a person capable of attracting a partner, and that the responsibility to d… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/23 03:10 PM |
| -7 | Let's stop using 'incel' as an insultYou can do that without helping predators to camouflage themselves with language designed to make them appear as victims of society. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/23 02:46 PM |
| -6 | Let's stop using 'incel' as an insultWell, this group isn't for me. A community should not protect predators. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/23 02:39 PM |
| 1 | Let's stop using 'incel' as an insult"Incel" doesn't actually describe someone who is "involuntarily celibate", it's describing a group of people who are anti-femnist and who adopted that moniker themselves as a camouflaging strategy. Incels are predators who are using the naivety of the public to hide their true intentions. It's perfectly reasonable to use slurs to refer to groups of predatory men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/23 01:51 PM |
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