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LamiaQueen/r/RedPillWomen27/11/14 01:00 AM
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DiscussionLamiaQueen/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 04:10 AM
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What lifestyle are you both willing to accept to live on a single income? What safety nets do you have in place in case something happens to him and you lose that income? Are you able to budget money and cook well? What money concerns does he have that are keeping him from feeling confident about the next step? Can you manage unexpected expenses, including long-term ones? I've been a SAHW for three years, SAHM for a little less time, and we live on about 50k a year. It's absolutely doable even o…
/r/RedPillWomen05/08/24 12:06 AM
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We're just doing easy to nibble appetizers. So mini sausages simmered in barbecue sauce, meatballs in marinara sauce, bacon mac and cheese bites from Wal-Mart, pizza rolls, etc. Not the fanciest but we probably won't be having many people over and it's cheap. With 10-20 bucks you could do that or something indulgent for yourself depending on what grocery stores are around you. I know lobster tails are on sale near me, maybe you could check your ads and find something that fits your budget?
/r/RedPillWomen30/12/20 07:48 PM
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Your husband should always be your best friend. From there it's about establishing your personal rules for keeping the marriage more important than the friendship. As long as your husband knows the guy, you're open with what you're talking about, as well as not confiding things to the friend without telling them to your husband, I don't think it's being a bad wife to have a male friend. BUT it's also risky territory and still good advice to avoid opposite sex friendships in general. My personal …
/r/RedPillWomen12/10/20 02:46 PM
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Slow cooker! Start your meals sooner in the day and have it take care of itself while you handle little ones later in the day.
/r/RedPillWomen22/03/19 04:17 PM
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??? Why are you back? No one here cares dude.
/r/RedPillWomen07/03/18 08:34 PM
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Isn't this a repost? How desperate are you? In any case only a fool would care what an internet troll thinks of them so I doubt you'll have much luck here, dearie.
/r/RedPillWomen07/02/18 01:45 AM
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My response is to work on your spelling and grammar.
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 06:52 PM
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Wow, that first list is full of terrible reasoning. "If you don't let your man sleep around you're selfish and jealous and mistrustful and hampering his happiness, which obviously matters more than yours." Seriously? Being RPW doesn't have to mean you value him at 100 and yourself at 0. And trying to use an argument of "But doesn't he deserve more kiiiids?" just misses the mark so thoroughly. Kids benefit the most from having stable fathers in their lives, not ones that treat their family as sec…
/r/RedPillWomen24/04/17 06:14 PM
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The article is generalizing, obviously there are women in "dirty and dangerous" jobs, but on the whole women don't prefer those jobs.
/r/RedPillWomen11/04/17 04:09 PM
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There's too much word vomit to even ponder your words, and what I've read of that spewing is nothing new. This probably isn't a place for you. You know what would really be pathetic though, is if we changed our rules based on one guy who thinks he knows better than we do how RPW function. Good thing that'll never happen, huh?
/r/RedPillWomen03/10/16 01:42 PM
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I'm so glad it helped! Where you have a new baby it just may not be possible to get more sleep right now, but as long as your husband knows he's still a priority and that you love him I'm sure he'll understand if you can't be perky in the morning. ;)
/r/RedPillWomen26/01/16 12:35 AM
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You don't have to be a chipper morning person to help start his day right, just don't be a total grump. Maybe physical contact like hugs and kisses instead of words, and/or something to give him like a lunch that you prepped the day before. I'm assuming you're like me and turn into a cavewoman when you wake up, only talking in grunts and finger pointing. There's nonverbal ways of communication that will show him that you care and won't give him a bad start to the day.
/r/RedPillWomen20/01/16 08:30 PM
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r/alttrp is supposed to be more for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 01:09 AM
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Thank goodness, I thought I was alone in that. I agree with you and u/demerera.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 06:26 PM
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It'd help if there were more of a differentiator between early thirties men and up instead of just 30+. I think it peaks at early thirties but I had to go with 26-30 because it's more accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 05:59 PM
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Except it's not just about men. It was about women being alone and unwanted too. But as I said elsewhere, it's just speculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 03:23 PM
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I doubt it. People can find happiness if they choose to, and if culture reflected finding that happiness in any form people would be more likely to do so. But it's all speculation and my opinion versus yours on whether there'd be more bitter and lonely people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 03:21 PM
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Yeah, well, never said people would like it. But sometimes people have to do things they don't want to do. It's not always the end of the world or abuse or what not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 03:15 PM
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Don't know why you made a connection between single parenthood and abusive relationships when they have literally nothing to do with what I said. And I said it would be lessened, not eliminated.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 03:13 PM
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I'm referring more to cultural attitudes than laws. No fault divorce, praising single parenthood, promiscuity, and lack of commitment in relationships overall are a few ways we are not pro-monogamy. If we changed that, the problem of people being bitter and lonely would be lessened.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 08:19 AM
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Straw man again. Where did I say we're polygamous? Although you haven't been to Utah, obviously. We have polygamists right around the corner from where I live. But I said pro-monogamy. There's a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 08:04 AM
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Go back to being pro-monogamy, for starters?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 07:50 AM
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Your entire comment is a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 07:42 AM
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This is true. I see your dilemma. But they are classics for a reason, so whatever movie on that list you pick will have a 99% probability of being good. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 02:28 AM
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Great Mouse Detective! Or Bedknobs and Broomsticks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 02:11 AM
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Inconsiderate to him? Why and how? And why should I care what you think the right thing to do would be? If he's making a sacrifice I didn't want and didn't ask for then I'm not obligated to return the favor, it doesn't even make me a bad person to not return the favor. You're making an awful lot of moral judgments and I don't think you've ever even experienced this or you'd probably think differently or at least acknowledge that it's not a pleasant situation to be in. It's easy to talk hypotheti…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 09:27 PM
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32/36 22 Female blah blah
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 09:01 PM
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Gee, you're awfully authoritarian aren't you? "Everyone should be like me because I'm right and you're wrong." No, I've been with a guy who worshipped me, and it was distasteful. That level of adoration gets old fast when you know you're only human but he insists on framing you as more than that. So no, the answer isn't always to reciprocate, although I'm sure you'd like to think it is. That's not how it works in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 08:56 PM
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Haha, no, that's not how it works at all. When you're pedestalized and worshipped by a guy he is almost forcing you to look down on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 08:47 PM
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Karl Urban 43 Cliff Simon 53 Jeffrey Dean Morgan 49 Only reason I watched Supernatural, right there. Martin Csokas 49 Timothy Omundson 46
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 05:15 AM
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Why would I care? At a certain point I have no control over her anyways, so as long as I gave her the information needed to make an informed decision beforehand my job is done.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 11:37 PM
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Then the common factor is you, not the people you trusted. If you keep putting faith in people who only let you down then of course they're going to screw up. That's just blind submission, and it's as wrong as pure skepticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 01:47 AM
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So you would question your doctor and not believe him about anything just because he claims to be a medical expert? I should question my boss over every step in my job because she doesn't know everything? I don't think that'd lead to fewer screwups. Quite the opposite in fact. Nothing wrong with a little skepticism but your claim is that anything less than pure skepticism is weak and that's just wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 01:09 AM
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"Submission: The action or fact of accepting or yielding to a superior force or to the will or authority of another person." Not blind trust in just anyone. Deference to another person who has proven worthy of that trust. Yeah, anyone can screw up. In fact, everyone will screw up at some point. It's the reality of the world. You're putting the most negative possible interpretation of submission and claiming it's inevitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 12:58 AM
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Do I have to live in this country or can I live outside it and watch it collapse/get invaded? Not that it really matters, if I have to live in it I'm just emigrating anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/15 10:24 PM
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Where on earth did you get the idea that prostitution is legal in Utah?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 05:52 AM
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Lol, okay. You let me know how that goes for you. I'll stick with reality, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 11:47 PM
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Mother earth gave us this. Men and order gave us this. Better to stand behind men, where it's nice and safe. Photoshopped image, obviously. You get my point though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 11:12 PM
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Is the movie based on the book that was written from the son's perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 10:04 PM
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No, that'd be stupid and ungrateful of me. For context, I dated a guy a while ago. A year ago, actually, it was around Christmas. We had only been dating for a few weeks but for Christmas he got me an insanely huge gift card to a game store, a scented candle, a bear, and other stuff I can't remember. It was way over the top. He always paid for everything, which was kinda nice, but he couldn't afford it and we both knew it. There was more, but basically it came down to the fact that he was offeri…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 06:38 PM
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Put some text in, your post is all naked.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:22 AM
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Is she hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 01:36 AM
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No thanks. Too much emotion and drama. Plus I can't stand when guys I date try to buy my love. Makes me feel like an emotional prostitute. If a guy doesn't think he can earn affection by merit what does that say about him?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 12:45 AM
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Is that...a joke? Did you make a joke? I'm going to mark this date if you did. ;D
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 10:22 PM
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You'd have to get them off the streets and into school to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 04:03 AM
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I browse a few other subs casually, I definitely see more RP attitudes than I expected to, things like "If a guy is attractive girls won't think he's creepy for approaching them," that sort of thing. It definitely gets in your head. Edit: Happy cake day Cats!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 03:44 AM
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Run. Run now. Your priority shouldn't be to save him, it should be to find someone who doesn't need saving. He has unresolved issues and anger, and you're just making yourself a target with him. As long as his anger is in the driver's seat, rational leadership can't even fit in the car.
/r/RedPillWomen10/12/15 11:06 PM
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Yay! I'm special! How much do you want to bet I'd be a snowflake that doesn't even melt? In all seriousness I do see what you're saying though. I've been told I have abnormal taste in men before. It would make sense for the other women on here to be similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 03:56 AM
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He has a baby face or something, I don't know. It doesn't scream "Do me" or "I will devour you" or "I will paint the world red with the blood of your enemies." It's a sugar and spice look, for all that he has a masculine looking physique.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 03:37 AM
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There's a difference between having to coddle a man-baby who's super in touch with his feewings and a man that life happened to take a dump on, to put it crudely. The sympathy is given more freely for circumstances outside someone's control or lessons they had to learn the hard way, not for people who just can't handle their emotions like a grown up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 02:47 AM
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No, dude looks like he has something growing inside him. Gross. Ew. Looks like he'd call me "milady." No. Hmm. Maybe a yes. Probably a yes. But again with the strange protuberances. I love muscly men but they just don't look quite right in these pictures. Haha. No. Average guy, average face. Nothing to swoon over or get repulsed by. 3/5, if I had to do him I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 02:38 AM
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Sexism isn't inherently bad. It's just wrong, and being wrong is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 01:42 AM
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Now you're just being deliberately obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 05:47 PM
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Not my point though. Science can support any view you want. That's what I'm saying. Relying on it too much is just as faulty as never using it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 05:36 PM
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Like a glass of wine every night is good for your heart. Oh wait, maybe it's more the lifestyle of people posh enough to drink wine every night that's good for your heart. Eat low sodium diets, oh, maybe it should be low sugar instead. Carbs are bad though, mmkay? It's not just health guidelines, but science in general is changing constantly. It supports both RP and BP, which is why it's rarely an effective debate tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 05:22 PM
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No, I'm not New Age. And yeah, it's fair to assume that science is right in that area when you can see the evidence for it around you. There's just so much they're wrong on, like the ever-changing health guidelines for example. So I default to skepticism with science.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 04:07 PM
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Are you familiar with the Six Blind Men and the Elephant story? This kinda shows what I'm trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 03:53 PM
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I'm not saying science knows absolutely nothing. I'm saying it's not infallible. It changes all the time. And yeah, science has done great things for humanity. It's done terrible things as well though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 03:46 PM
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That's not even remotely countering the point I was making.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 03:40 PM
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I'm saying we know so little about the world we're still figuring out how little we know about it, and people in the sciences frequently fall into the trap of thinking they know more than they do. Using science as a higher authority doesn't work, because it is too fallible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 07:23 AM
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First you have to define what is real, and what is truth. Your reality and your truth are obviously different from mine, which is why I doubt we'll ever agree on anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 07:23 AM
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http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2015/07/06/420513593/what-you-really-know-about-bicycles
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 06:25 AM
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Science doesn't even know how bicycles work. To hail it as the supreme authority is nonsensical. It's a useful tool for discovering truth, not the useful tool. And to say it's biased in one breath and the most objective in the next is saying a lot about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 03:18 AM
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That's why I date religious conservative types. Better odds. No need to get defensive though, we'll never even meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 11:20 PM
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Yes, pretty much on both counts. Indicates that there's something inside himself he's trying to fill with empty sex. Trying to fill a hole with air.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 10:06 PM
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Good for you. Don't care about your sex life though. And yes, I'm dead serious. Sex may be simple for you but it matters to me. I wouldn't date someone like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 10:03 PM
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No. Men who sleep around that casually are rarely if ever relationship material. At that point it's not even casual sex, it's unpaid prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 09:20 PM
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Nah, I'm good thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 03:39 AM
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not wanting to go to a seminar to be told not to rape people. This line? It was sarcasm. That whole thread was basically sarcasm. Please show me where I said it was an "all men are rapists" seminar.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 11:16 PM
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I'm not sure whether I'm mainstream or moderate. Probably moderate, although it's only RP upstarts who've said I'm not being red right.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 07:00 PM
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And any past suffering doesn't justify the present torment of people who disagree with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 06:51 PM
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I did? Wow, that's surprising. Where did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 06:49 PM
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Sure did. What does that have to do with my point about the situation and your arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 10:51 AM
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Who are you trying to convince here? Your strawmanning, emotional appeals, and fallacies of relative privation aren't compelling arguments at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 09:57 AM
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acted like a jerk Yes. Terrible behavior that, not wanting to go to a seminar to be told not to rape people. social grouping How dare he disagree with feminism. He must be shunned from society. Makes you wonder why people are turning against the whole ideology, when any disagreement with feminism is faced with hatred and smothered into silence. Such a mystery. feminists faced much more severe social consequences Like...what? Reaching all their goals? And any past suffering doesn't justify the pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 09:06 AM
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Makes me sick to my stomach. He has done nothing to deserve that treatment, and he seems like a perfectly normal nice guy who happens to disagree with feminists. Don't want to go all dystopian here but it is eerily similar to thought policing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 10:18 PM
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The one time I had a panic attack from something was because of a guy's cologne. Something about that smell set me off and left me a wreck the rest of the day as I furiously tamped down all my emotions until I could leave and cried all the way home trying to explain to my grandmother why such an innocuous thing set me off for no reason. Not saying I have PTSD, but this one anecdotal incident seems consistent with other reports of actual PTSD triggers that I've seen. Trigger warnings don't seem t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 10:00 PM
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Having a stable social structure is different from having validation. And healthy ego development should not be dependent on others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 07:12 PM
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Or someone who doesn't care. But people can survive without FB likes and orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 09:18 AM
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Is validation really a need? That'd be the bigger question, one that I think is more important to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 04:21 AM
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Not even sure what your point is now, are you saying women should be allowed to rape men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 06:02 PM
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7% admit to using force. Not this horde you're pretending is being argued for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:56 PM
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Sure thing bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:29 PM
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You're full of it. And just because you don't get an erection when you're anxious or scared doesn't mean every man is like you. Having a penis doesn't make you an authority on this, as evidenced by your responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:18 PM
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"Can prevent." Not "prevents." Not helping your case.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:11 PM
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Poster of what? This thread? No. This article in this thread? No. The thread you already mentioned, that everyone knows about? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 10:22 PM
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Yeah, I'm familiar with that, thanks. Been red for a while and all. Doesn't change the fact that this article in this thread is not RP. In both cases it's still the opinion of individuals and being used to paint all RPers as people who hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 10:05 PM
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Except it's not even a RP article.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 09:28 PM
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Can you just stop trolling already?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 08:41 PM
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That's not an objective measurement at all. You're comparing thousands of people who choose that to billions of people who don't. You still didn't answer my other questions. Sorry, my attention span has been depleted. There's obviously nothing to discuss here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 11:19 PM
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I wouldn't bother debating that. It's inane. How is it not objective? What are the objective ways H/G is better than civilization? You still haven't answered my original question too. What are you trying to prove here?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 10:56 PM
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I'm saying that the 12,000 years of civilization are better than the 190,000 years of H/G, so I don't know what you're trying to prove.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 10:31 PM
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Why does it matter what happened then? The fact that hunter-gatherer societies still exist in pretty much the original state doesn't make them look good at all. Stagnation isn't helpful to society or the species and biological parental investment has built our society, not H/G sharing and caring tribes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 10:14 PM
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"The only common factor in all your failed relationships is you."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 06:56 PM
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No, it's 20% get all the sex they want, 60% get sex but not as much as they want, and 20% are invisible to the vast majority of women. Probably still not quite accurate, but much closer to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 04:59 AM
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80/20 rule: Women are the sexual selectors. That's pretty much it, women have higher standards than men because we're the ones who incubate the babies. 80/20 doesn't seem like an accurate indicator of the world, it's probably closer to the 20/60/20 thing I've heard other users theorize about. Anyways, women ideally want the best they can get as far as mates go. That rule is just a lite version of hypergamy in action. Alpha widows: The one you can't get over. Both genders have them, RP just named…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 02:40 AM
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If you want my logical justification you'll have to ask for it on specific topics. I can't just explain everything in one comment. It's not that I'm "purposefully keeping it hidden." It's that I've gone over it all so many times with so many people that it's usually redundant at this point. All that really makes sense to tell you in this context is that RP theory aligns pretty well with what I see in my personal life and in myself. I can be childishly coy, for example, and AWALT as a general gui…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 01:16 AM
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All this to say you don't want to test the first premises of RP logically on your own. You want to believe it, you go justify it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 11:09 PM
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This is what I mean by not academic enough. And if you want to believe RP so badly what is stopping you? Go out and see if the real world supports it, it's not our job to convert you. If there is a logical basis for RP, which I believe there is, you're probably not going to find it online. BT dubs, I'm actually pretty happy. My emotional state is not conditional on your understanding of RP theory. I'm sure you'll be relieved to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 06:27 PM
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We have logical arguments. You just don't accept them because they aren't academic enough. Can you provide a logical argument for why we should jump through your hoops to prove RP to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 05:58 PM
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What is this supposed to prove or disprove about RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 05:03 PM
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Fetusphile, Good Girl, Comparison Shopper, Traditionalist, Economist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 11:04 PM
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That's what the report button is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 10:45 PM
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That's already a rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 10:38 PM
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Because that's a last resort. I'd divorce in a heartbeat if I were cheated on, physically abused (nonconsensually), or my children were in danger. Beyond that, he is the choice I made and I'd deal with the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 08:24 PM
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Please show me where I said people don't change. I said they don't change without warning. And your "actual question" is irrelevant because RPW strongly advise a lot of screening before commitment. Hypothetically, to play with your question, I would take my kids and leave such a man but I wouldn't divorce him unless his gambling was putting us at risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 08:19 PM
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May not be a big deal to you. Wasn't a big deal to your mother. It's a big deal for me. I wouldn't have married him, simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 08:11 PM
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Smoking weed. Red flag. Promising to quit at some point in the future. Red flag. Means your mother had an issue with it but decided to bank on the future instead of the present, and it means he wasn't very serious about changing because if he was he'd have done it then instead of "when the kids are born." There are undoubtedly correlating behaviors, but they were seen as "fun and dynamic" instead of red flags. Going from your post alone, those two I pointed out are enough to rule him out as a pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 08:08 PM
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Was he really very different, or were there red flags she ignored because he was "fun, dynamic, and handsome?" I find it hard to believe that people can go 180 with no warning.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 07:52 PM
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Wouldn't have married him in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 07:47 PM
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It's not a "would sleep with" or "would not sleep with" thing at all for me. It's "attractive" and "not attractive." Sex itself rarely if ever occurs to me as a possibility when I'm out doing my thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:26 AM
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I'm antifeminist and I like gender roles. Grew up conservative too. But I've talked about things like hypergamy and the captain/first mate dynamic outside RPW and PPD, and even the bluest feminist I know agreed with me on the few things I dared bringing up. I just don't use the RP terminology, I dress it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 02:29 PM
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Yeah, well, their problems are just life. And they're also problems that she signed up for. We don't know that he's not listening to her, all we know is her side, and she said herself that she was just complaining to her husband instead of coming up with solutions. She said they were in a house that was too expensive, so they probably can't afford to move again just because she doesn't like it there. He's the sole breadwinner, so they probably can't afford to have him switch jobs or whatever it …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 01:35 AM
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No, to your first question. I am drawn to RPW because I'm naturally submissive and want to encourage my man to be the man. Doesn't mean I'm a dying swan, just means I am more comfortable with someone else in charge and taking orders. It's not a one size fits all thing, there are women RPW wouldn't work for like /u/MissPearl, who is naturally more dominant. So I'm RPW because it's what I want to adhere to, not because it's the only way. And no, I don't need a men in my life at all costs. I want o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 06:22 PM
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She has stated multiple times that her husband has done nothing wrong within their marriage besides admitting attraction to younger women. This entire thread seems like her trying to rationalize a divorce because she regrets the choices she's made. How is it not "her fault?" That's why I've been telling her that if she legitimately wants to save her marriage there are better ways to solve the problems than complaining to her husband. Do you think there's anything legitimately wrong with what I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 05:57 PM
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That's because that's one of the male sexual strategies. And TRP is for the men. RPW is the women's side of the theory. Men and women are different, you can't go to a men's forum expecting answers for women's problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 03:19 PM
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What makes you think it's blue pill? This is closer to what you'd get at RPW.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 02:35 AM
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Good to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 12:48 AM
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Does lifting children count? There's definitely reps in that, especially when tantrums are involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 12:38 AM
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Which is more important to you, your family or yourself? If the answer is your family then if you work together with your husband on these issues you'll be able to figure things out. You don't have to be conservative to make friends with conservatives, you don't have to be completely dependent on your husband. The school thing is thornier but that's also something you can figure out. If you work with your husband towards the same goals then you'll make it as a family and as a couple. But if the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 12:33 AM
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The one useful thing I got from therapy was "Never use 'I feel like' statements." It's almost always followed with "you" which is still accusatory. I'd suggest pinpointing the specific things making you unhappy and coming up with solutions on your own. Are you lonely from the move? Is he working too much? Are the kids stressing you out? Do you miss your friends and family? Do you not have enough time to yourself? If you come up with solutions on your own, like hiring a babysitter for a few hours…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 08:44 PM
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The red pill formula for happiness isn't going to work if you just blame him for your unhappiness. You agreed to quit your career, you agreed to stay at home, you agreed to move. Complaining about your needs not being met isn't approaching the problem in a neutral way, it's accusatory. How will any compromise be reached if you are always the victim to his career and his children?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 07:49 PM
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People tell me the guys I like look like trouble. It may be that IDGAF attitude more than his actual masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 10:02 PM
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I really wish I could explain it myself. I think he's even shorter than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 09:52 PM
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First of all, as a woman I can tell you that we are not all attracted to the same kind of guy. I am a 22 y/o woman with no lack of choices in men and I can tell you that while I prefer older men, being older doesn't make a guy more attractive. Bruce Willis aged like wine, Trump aged like milk. I would tap Brucie and Putin in a heartbeat but not Donald Trump. It's not hamstering to have preferences that he doesn't fit. Second of all, money is attractive. Attractive men are attractive. But I think…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 09:14 PM
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Sure thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 07:52 PM
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Tons? Really? You're so cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 07:38 PM
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If I had to choose I'd pick the one whose hair wouldn't crawl off and smother me, but what do I know? I'm just a woman. Seriously though, Trump isn't attractive. And he's almost 70, which puts him past his prime no matter how rich he is or how alpha he acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 07:36 PM
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I have never seen that scenario with a male character. And I get that they're changing things up for more depth, I just think they went in the wrong direction with Lara.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 11:24 PM
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Okay, so maybe I'm also well-endowed in that area and having a heroine who was similar was really cool. It irritates me when people say she was just a sexual object because she was busty, when she was still very capable and fun. There's nothing wrong with having big boobs. And the whole "inner strength" found through rape fear is not something I support. You can show her finding strength without demonizing men. Yes, it's a very visceral fear for women but that whole scenario reeks of politics. "…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 04:52 PM
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I already got into this in other comments, but yes, I think second wave feminism created her and third wave killed her with politicizing everything in video games. I don't just blame feminism, I blame the game devs too. But as far as it being her "origin story" I still think it's stupid because we got origin stories in the original 4 and 5, with the Cambodia level in 4 and the Ireland level in 5. She was 11-16 then, can't find a set age on the Ireland one but definitely 16 in Cambodia. And still…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 03:14 PM
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You can say the same thing about a statue. So? That doesn't make her less tough, aggressive, and brave. I already said British. British =/= snotty. Just dryer wit. The games are pretty similar but their characters aren't. Right, but Nathan Drake came out after CD Lara and the gameplay is too similar to the CD trilogy to call Uncharted original, and 2013 took the same basic formula only minus the whole Tomb Raiding idea. Watered down. New Lara is 21, not a teenager, but still a baby compared to 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 12:31 AM
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Depends on which ones you go by, I prefer the first 6 over the CD trilogy. In those ones she was shoot first, ask questions later, dismissive of challenges (because what can't she overcome? She's Lara Croft), inquisitive, smart, a little snotty ("You know me, a regular virtuoso" or "Pardon me if that was just your way of trying the doors for me" or I'd probably have an unsightly face judging by your past experiments.) Her parents disowned her for doing what she wanted instead of being a good lit…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 11:51 PM
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Yeah, but I wanted to hear what her thoughts on it were.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 09:07 PM
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Console, PC, or mobile?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 09:03 PM
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Forgot to add my main point, and why I blame feminism. They diluted her personality to make her more marketable and more inclusive. Except it's Tomb Raider, not an otome. That's how they killed her, making her more realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 08:56 PM
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Why does she need to be protected? Why does she need to be scared, and vulnerable? Why does she need to be relatable? Why does her defining moment need to be a retaliation against evil men who sexualize her? She was fine before, when she was rich and pretty and busty and doing it all for fun and for knowledge. She was fearless, she was bold, she was smart. Alligators, crocodiles, sharks, lions, mechanical bulls, satanic horsemen, nothing came between her and her goal. Screw this new Lara. I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 08:54 PM
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Gonna be solipsistic here and take this personally. I've been gaming since I could push buttons on my Grandma's Nintendo and I've been reading fantasy and scifi since I could read. It's not an appropriation of culture if you've grown up in it. That said, yes, I hate what feminism is trying to do with it. They already killed Lara Croft, who knows who they'll ruin next. It's not a political platform and they need to stop trying to make it one. It's entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 07:07 PM
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Yes, I do. But I don't care how other people live their lives, I just won't be in a relationship with a guy who's had casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 06:54 PM
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Tell that to every incel man told to masturbate? I would if they asked me and they specified that they solely wanted sex. Your theory seems to boil down to a presupposition of male guilt and female passivity. I'm not accusing you of thinking that way, but I can see where you're getting it. I disagree with the sentiment though. Either it's a need and DB spouses are being abusive and neglectful, or it's an urge which can be controlled until you are in a committed relationship. Just my opinion thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 06:38 PM
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You don't need another person to satisfy sexual urges. Your phrasing raises a question for me though, because I've heard the "I just have needs" from women who have lots of sex before. Why is it a need for casual sex or for women (as I've always heard it used) but an entitlement issue for sex within a relationship or for men (again, how I've always heard it)?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 06:08 PM
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So the statement by itself is a confusion of male and female sex drives as well as a confusion of why men and women generally have sex? Edit: Not saying I agree, just trying to understand where you're coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 05:12 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3prhls/q4tbp_what_do_you_think_is_the_most_frustrating/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 08:01 PM
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That's what the question asks. And there was just one for BPers asking the exact same thing, so I don't see what your point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 07:21 PM
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To add to the lack of compassion point, when they default to just being a satire sub to avoid coming up with their own solutions when asked, instead of trying to find a workable solution for people who aren't satisfied with egalitarian relationships. Yeah, it's not their job, but it doesn't help their side at all. And a lack of attempt to find a middle ground in general, just saying "You disagree with me so you're wrong" instead of an understanding of why people would turn to RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 06:37 PM
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It's not apples and oranges. It's just not hypocrisy to want traits or qualities in a partner that you don't have. Nobody wants someone who is a carbon copy of themself, and the genders generally have different things they look for in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 04:40 AM
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This has been addressed before. Is it hypocrisy for short women to want tall guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 11:56 PM
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No. It boils down to the premise that actions matter more than words. If I say I hate children but coo over them and play with them and genuinely smile around them then you're going to think I'm full of crap and lying about hating children. If a woman says she really wants nice guys who treat her right but repeatedly dates guys who are indifferent jerks to her, then you are going to think she's full of crap and lying about liking nice guys. Even if a woman were being completely honest about what…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 11:05 PM
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22.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 05:20 AM
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It's more conducive for sex to stay out of jail. Unless you're gay or bi.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 09:21 PM
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Not if you want to stay out of jail, which I assume the majority of RPers do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 09:08 PM
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Eh, my guess is he's too entrenched in his "I'm right, you're wrong" mentality to even be willing to understand why people go to RP theory. But hey, can't say I didn't try.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 06:26 PM
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I disagree, they are all wrong. And I disagree with you, but I actually meant that if a person is MRP, for example, it doesn't mean they are red pilling wrong. your rundown on the RP theory, please. There are biological differences between men and women which includes what men and women are each generally attracted to. Men want quantity of mates, women want quality of mates. In the past, they met in the middle and compromised with monogamous marriage to raise children in stable environments. Cur…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 02:02 AM
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You think RP is right, but that theyre going about the theory the wrong way? I can address your idea of what RP is later, but right now I just want to point out that just because the men and women of RPW and TRP and MRP are applying RP in different ways doesn't mean one is automatically wrong or right. The common factor is the theory, not the behavior. Your analogy of us saying we're Catholics and Roman Catholics is actually pretty close. The different subs are subsets to the RP theory, just lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 08:39 PM
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if they believe in commitment is that really RP? What do you think RP is? Because that seems to be where you're getting your misconceptions. We agree with RP theory on male and female nature and are using the knowledge of that theory to reach our own relationship goals. That's why we're RPW. Could you just call the sub "The Old Timey Women's Sowing Circle" I have no interest in pigs or farming and don't see how that would relate to sexual and relationship strategy. I'm fine being a RPW, don't th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 06:51 PM
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The reason RPW doesn't advocate dating RP men is because men and women have different strategies. RPW want to be with a commitment minded man who will be in charge. RP men are generally not commitment minded even though they are aiming for being the one in charge. You're projecting your perceived lack of respect onto our choice to be in the submissive role and assuming cognitive dissonance when really there is a reason there are separate subs for men and women and this is it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 06:08 PM
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Thank you, this is good to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 05:15 PM
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Yeah, I totally get the modern standards to historical times frustration. Watching Sleepy Hollow makes me want to scream with how they portray people behaving in colonial times. (Betsy Ross, why? Just why?) Our morality isn't necessarily the same as morality would have been back then. But (and this is probably because I am severely Christian and therefore believe that there is an objective morality) I do think that just because moral systems differ from time to time and culture to culture doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 12:33 AM
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I'm not familiar with what moral realism is, but I'm guessing I agree with it because I have no problem with moral judgments. :D I'll just summarize what I already posted to 3dbattleship, reasons behind actions can excuse the actions but they are usually not sufficient in my opinion. And even though human beings are complicated creatures with complicated reasons for their actions there has to be some objective standard on moral behavior or there's no point in having any morality at all. Again, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 11:44 PM
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she grew up and learned from it, and doesn't do that anymore. I agree that people can change, and that doing bad things doesn't always make you a bad person. But the line has to be drawn somewhere between good and bad and I'm under the impression from you that you don't think the line should be drawn at all, please correct me if I'm wrong. On the subject of your friend though, how did she learn from it? Did she get caught? Did someone do it to her? Did someone make a moral judgment on her and sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 11:39 PM
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Hitler loving his dog doesn't lessen the fact that he committed atrocities and incited others to do the same. I fully agree that people are on a spectrum of good and bad behaviors and traits but I fully disagree with the idea that you can't determine if someone is mostly good or bad based on their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 10:20 PM
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"good people" or "bad people" So the KKK, Hitler and Nazi co., murderers, rapists, etc. aren't bad people. Just misunderstood? Misinterpreted? doesn't give me a consistent sense of "who I am." That's...a little terrifying. Most people have an idea of certain lines they won't cross, certain ideals they believe in. For you to say you have no consistent beliefs? Could you shank someone one day for no reason and deliver cookies to the family the next and say "Sorry for your loss?" Or are there lines…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 10:01 PM
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Like I said though, don't have time, money, or interest. Feel free to prove me wrong but I don't think scoring high in one area would make someone DT.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 09:27 PM
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That's cool. Don't have the money or time or interest in sorting through all that though. All I'm saying is you can probably score high Mach without being high Mach just by being less optimistic about people in general. I highly doubt those studies would have been so focused.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 09:10 PM
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I've been having so much fun with him in this thread because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 08:47 PM
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What makes you doubt the validity of the concept of "character?" It's not a maybe-this-exists idea, it's a statement of what kinds of traits someone has or doesn't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 08:40 PM
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Something I found interesting about that test was the vagueness of the questions. It wasn't "Do you ever do this or that" as much as "Is there ever any use for acting this way or that way." I would wonder if the tests themselves are even that reliable of an indicator because they don't seem to be. The results would indicate a level of realism on how people behave more than how the tester actually treats others.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 08:25 PM
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You don't need to quote my whole comment back at me, I know what I said. Anyways, does this mean you'll stop making assumptions about people who agree with RP? Since there's an error rate in everything including you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 07:53 PM
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Right, so even if you're wrong about others you're still not wrong and it's their fault for not understanding themselves or what it means to live to serve others. Nice setup you have there. Do you think your narcissistic traits prevent you from understanding other people's point of view? Because I don't think there's much to misunderstand about what it means to "serve others" and it seems far more likely to me that you're just making more assumptions as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 07:18 PM
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Where does red pill say you have to follow everything exactly if you agree with the principle? I have never seen that. In fact, all I've seen is "You take what you want/need from this."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 07:15 PM
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"You're disagreeing with what I'm saying you are, therefore you're wrong and I'm right."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 06:44 PM
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By learning that occasionally you need to put yourself first if you want to end up happy and not resenting the other people in your life. By acknowledging that men and women have different natures in general, and learning about those differences can help you relate to the opposite gender better. By understanding that it's okay to have boundaries of your own in a relationship and that it's okay to leave if you aren't happy, that you don't have to put up with someone's crap just because they're wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 06:39 PM
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You can agree with RP core values and not magically turn into a Dark Triad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 06:17 PM
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Narcissism .1 Machiavellianism 2.2 Psychopathy .4 Taibo, you're more narcissistic than me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 03:32 PM
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Not the way I see it? It was the way I saw it. I already said my bad for misinterpreting. it's sufficient for RP to decide how they should act in all interactions with women Only when they're stupid about it. Anyone with a brain can see that women aren't all acting the same way all the time. RP thought is more a guideline than a rulebook anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 09:52 PM
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Right, so there was no possible way to interpret your statement as accusatory? I read it as you saying that agreeing with AWALT is abnormal. I read it wrong, my bad. Doesn't matter though, because as I said above AWALT is a biological tendency that doesn't account for choices. It's still not a sufficient descriptor of what is normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 09:31 PM
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How does agreeing with AWALT make me abnormal? It's a biological tendency that I can see in myself and pretty much every woman I know. Doesn't account for choices we make contrary to it which is where variables are seen. And core concept? I mean, it is possible to have a life outside PPD and RP and RPW. This is not stuff that consumes every user every minute of the day. For me it's just something to keep in mind on occasion. Time I have spent caring about AWALT offline is about 5 minutes, genero…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 09:21 PM
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Define normal and get back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 08:37 PM
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Aww, I'm sorry you feel that way. Have a cupcake with me, the chocolate helps the misogyny go down easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 12:07 AM
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If women didn't have vaginas men would hunt them and eat them. I like to think I'd be best with some barbeque sauce over rice, maybe even a stew. Women have no value to me but sex. That's nice. Don't care. Men built civilization while women farted around in grass huts nursing babies. Ha. Yeah. But we were nursing the men who went out and built civilization, so it works out. A woman's greatest assets are youth, sex appeal and fertility. Unless she has lots of liquid assets, yeah. A man can build …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 10:25 PM
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Except it's satire too. He never meant for it to be a manual for rulers, he was criticizing Cesare Borgia with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 04:52 PM
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My weirdest one was/is Craig Ferguson even though he's about 30 years older than me. Edit: Maybe Jeremy Brett as Sherlock Holmes as well. Saw that show when I was 13-15 years old, he was my favorite Sherlock for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 01:19 AM
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But the different approaches are enough of a separation that we can and should distance ourselves from each other, regardless of similar vernacular and worldview. It's like when radfems say "kill all men" and moderate feminists distance themselves from them and say "no, not really." It's like when anti-abortion groups come out against violence towards abortion clinics. It's like when normal Muslims come out against Muslim extremists. Just because you agree with a worldview doesn't mean you have …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 08:48 PM
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You would be guessing wrong. I do think the amount of services we have is excessive but I'm not completely against them. That's your assumption again. You do that a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 12:02 AM
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Making the assumption that all people agree that all social services are necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 11:51 PM
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selfishness, put yourself first is a core aspect of red pill and conservative / right wing types. And yet conservatives give more to charity than liberals. Seems like it's just that conservatives are more likely to help with their own funds and time instead of voting and advocating for policies that put the burden of community support on the government. How dare they.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 11:24 PM
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That's true. You can call it confirmation bias or just knowing what to watch out for, but it's definitely true. Doesn't mean science isn't biased though, and scientific fields have a lot more sway over the public than RP thought does.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 04:15 AM
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Bias is harmful to science and left-wing bias means studies get a feminist slant. RP is a response to feminism in a way, so the results of feminism are discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 11:53 PM
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Because TRP strategy intersects with gender relations and gender relations can intersect with feminism and feminism intersects with science and politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 11:27 PM
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Because...they can't ever talk about anything other than sex? Is it not allowed?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 11:23 PM
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The left wing bias in all the sciences, not just psychology, means it's much easier to go into an experiment with an outcome in mind and interpret the data in a way that supports your desired outcome. This was talked about just recently, someone posted an article about how the homogenous mindset in the sciences is harming the objectivity overall. As for why RPers care, why does anyone care about anything? Because they want to. Why do you have a problem with it? And there is enough diversity of R…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 11:21 PM
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Yay! I'm an extremist finally! ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 08:55 PM
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Really? That's your response? Are we five? No, I'm not lying. I've never been turned on by thinking of women or girl on girl action. It actively turns me off hearing about MFF threesomes. I think vags are gross, tits are just tits, so no, I don't believe that all women are naturally bi. Because I am not. Get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 07:58 PM
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You answer RP questions all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 06:38 PM
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Umm. No. I've never been turned on by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:19 PM
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Nice Eminem plug.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 05:38 AM
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Particular BP ideas can be very cleanly laid out Like what? Give examples, because this is still not specific. Communicate more? Because that's vague. Go to marriage counseling? That's useless unless men can get their wives to not see them as a burden, which I suspect is a common reason married men find RP. Those are the ideas BP uses the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 06:19 PM
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Then you'd understand why it would be attractive for men having issues in relationships to have an actionable, laid out plan that says exactly what to do in an attempt to maximize benefit for both sides. Everything "BP" is so vague and disorganized as to be useless to at least some men, if not most.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 05:48 PM
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51% of third class women died. 50% of children died. And 80% of the men on board died. http://www.anesi.com/titanic.htm http://www.titanicfacts.net/titanic-survivors.html Even with the crew, 87% of the female crew survived compared to 22% of the males. So no, I find it doubtful that the men who stayed behind did it under threats of "violence." Which would you take, a beating or death? not packing the life boats full, in order to make the 1st class more comfortable. So you're making this about a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 01:02 PM
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I don't get rejected, but I don't actively look. Even back when I was on dating websites I never initiated contact. Never had the need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 10:53 PM
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I wasn't talking about female brains. I was talking about OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 08:29 PM
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At this point I wonder if anything will.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:37 AM
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If you don't think it applies to you then it shouldn't matter if other people believe it because you can prove them wrong with your actions. If you do think it applies to you then you can work on handling things more rationally and willingly take responsibility. Also, saying there is "no hope" is melodramatic. Kinda like a teenager. Maybe you need some different perspectives.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:28 AM
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Why do you take it so seriously? Why is this explanation so vital to your life? This has been explained to you over and over and obviously the sidebar was not written with you in mind. It is not something you need. Why do you care if some people find it useful?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:20 AM
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I think most TRPers understand that you disagree. It just doesn't matter because that is still a useful thing for them. Regardless of what it implies or doesn't imply if it is taking women off the pedestal for some men it is helpful enough to stay. Most people can look at that and say "Oh, I see what they mean. Not 100% literal, but a lot of things with my wife/gf/mother/etc make more sense with that added perspective." They generally don't say "ZOMG, women are all teenagers!"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:13 AM
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Do you mean maturing physically? Or mentally and emotionally? Because women stop maturing physically earlier than men, the average age women stop growing is 18 while men keep going until about 21. Women biologically stop maturing at around 18. This is where TRP gets the number from but they often use it as an exaggeration of the emotional and mental age of women. Mentally and emotionally everyone grows and changes all throughout their life. TRP is pointing out that some women, even after all the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 03:22 AM
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If you don't think it applies to you then it shouldn't matter if other people believe it because you can prove them wrong with your actions. If you do think it applies to you then you can work on handling things more rationally and willingly take responsibility. But asking the same thing over and over again isn't going to get you a different result. That is my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 03:02 AM
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FFS, how many times have you asked this? None of the answers we give satisfy you, so maybe quit asking us and ask other people if you're that desperate to know. If there is something you are trying to prove to us it's not working. In fact, this is actively proving the point TRP makes about women not maturing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 02:56 AM
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No, he's pointing out that it's stupid to imagine men would be willing to give up their lives for a meaningless product or resource. He's saying that the reason why men were willing to die for women and children is not because they were forced to, but because they chose to. You are the one who sounds obtuse here. People don't go against their own self-interest for things they don't value. They don't die for things they don't value. I certainly doubt they let themselves die just because their bos…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 01:52 AM
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Patriarchy4life!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 08:29 PM
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I think of it like an alcoholic...at the end only he can do the work necessary to break the addiction. Like I mentioned in the other comment, I think this is a miscommunication because of my word choice, so sorry about that. I actually was going to say something similar before, about how you can lead a horse to water but you can't force it to accept help. But I think we actually pretty much agree on this, I just don't even consider the possibility that a man might try the "I'm too weak" approach…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 11:49 PM
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I think this is a my bad on my part, because I'm using vulnerabilities where I think /u/nomdplume is using be realistic about yourself. I meant find people you can trust not to take advantage if you aren't 100% on top of your game. Like, if you get drunk with friends are you going to wake up with a blanket covering you even though you get teased in the morning about how wasted you were or are you going to wake up with crude phalli drawn on your face? Shallow example, but that's what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 11:42 PM
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Only the meddlesome and power-hungry are generally interested in taking on the problems of others See, to me that seems more cynical than realistic. The purpose of opening up would be so you don't have to do everything on your own, because I have great faith in the capabilities of men but I have yet to meet one that could accomplish everything he wanted without wavering once. Yes, everyone is on their own to a degree, but that doesn't mean you're alone all the time forever. It's actually been ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 05:39 AM
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I think this really illustrates what the definition of "toxic masculinity" should be, to me at least. After all, it's widely considered to be manly for men to bury weakness and emotions, anything that can be used against them even when they suffer more because of it. And women contribute to this by dismissing the fact that men can be hurt by us, and can suffer as much as women can. If anything is toxic to a person's psyche it's burying pain instead of dealing with it, or trying to get help and b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 07:27 AM
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Why does your flair say Endorsed Contributor? Weren't you Blue Pill Girl before? And I've never seen comments from you in TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 07:06 AM
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That's not my question though. I'm asking why you think it's not a clear cut situation when "aggressive feminists" as you put it look down on SAHMs, not whether or not there is a super secret movement against them inside feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 06:20 PM
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Why do you severely doubt that? What nuance would excuse this behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 04:20 PM
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You think personal ads didn't exist, or magazines for niche fetishes didn't exist? Of course they existed, no one is saying they didn't. But they aren't the same as Tinder, or POF, or OKC, and you're making it very obvious that you don't understand what the difference is. Sheer numbers of matches and immediacy of responses have absolutely made things different. We have grown up more isolated and insecure, hiding behind technology, and connections we make with other people are frequently very sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 01:43 AM
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Right, and I'm the actual queen of lamias.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 09:48 PM
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I think that would be true of every group, but yeah. My guess is that RPW definitely fits under that as well. I know I was drawn to it when I found out they had similar goals to mine and were antifeminism like me. This would also explain why it didn't work for you, because you are in a different position and don't have the same desire to have your SO take the lead. As for how many have "made it" I really couldn't say. Change is hard, even if it's a change you believe in, and I think a lot of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 08:23 PM
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You're assuming 1) that he's actually interested and not just in it for sex 2) that average guys can never get above average girls (they can, in my experience, whether they keep them is another matter) and 3) that Chad is always a 10 and never just a guy who's a bit better looking or richer being assigned the title of Chad from a position of resentment and jealousy. TRPers are people too you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 08:04 PM
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Am I? That's strange, don't remember saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 07:52 PM
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Maybe the same reason addicts all get together and talk about how they're trying to overcome it? Or why church ladies all get together to crochet and chat and eat cookies. For a support group of people in similar situations with similar goals. I've seen it said multiple times on TRP and PPD. They're exchanging notes and forming vague internetty bonds.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 07:47 PM
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I don't know about that. Haven't seen any of them say that personally, but I seem to remember hearing about GLO saying most of the guys he's Skyped are just average and don't fit the neckbeard profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 07:45 PM
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Except no one ever claimed that all RP men are like that except you. They are the first to admit they are usually average guys, not the worst, not the best, but receivers of the tail end of female hypergamy and watching the women they cared about leave them for a "Chad."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 07:39 PM
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Besides the fact that it's annoying? Honestly, for me, it's like the stock responses from online dating. It's zero effort and is something freely distributed. It's not special at all. It's also degrading and not in the fun way, implying they think I'm about worth a "Hey tits!" shouted from a car as opposed to a more favorable "Hey good-looking" with eye contact and a smile. I don't demand pedestalization, but if you're going to hit on me be classy about it. Bad boys can accomplish classy, catcal…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 12:33 AM
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Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 04:52 PM
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I don't care. And I'm not including divorce unless the dad disappeared entirely afterwards. But that's one of my red flags, and it's a possible can of worms I'm not going to deal with, just like mental illness can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 04:16 PM
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How is that being nasty and bitter? I wouldn't want to date a mentally ill man under most circumstances and I'm a woman, does that make me nasty and bitter? I don't want to get involved with men who didn't have a father figure. Is that nasty and bitter too?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 06:10 PM
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This is why I said it is not feasible. You asked for my hypothetical, I gave it to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 06:05 AM
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Where did I say to remove women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 05:41 AM
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in most patriarchal societies , women didn't have these freedoms. So? Doesn't mean women were all enslaved and chained to their kitchens. Just means they didn't walk out on their husbands as much. And again, I disagree that these are necessary freedoms. They're privileges. This is worth watching on the subject. My idea of patriarchy? Do I need to have my own idea? I know I'm a fairly independent woman but my will and separate thoughts all seem to disappear when I'm around those big, strong men, …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 02:49 AM
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I wouldn't say those are all basic freedoms that everyone is entitled to. I would say they are incentives to maintain stability in society. Being able to choose who to marry is a good thing for the most part. Being able to divorce is a necessary thing in some cases, and if it were stigmatized like it used to be while being a valid option for escape, such as in abusive relationships, it would be a very good thing. Being able to work and provide for a family contributes to the stability of society…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 10:12 PM
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Which basic freedoms do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 09:12 PM
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I think this has to do with some of the misinterpretations of "women are attracted to alphas or higher status men." It doesn't mean that every woman wants a jet setting super rich hottie. It's much closer to specific culture than both sides acknowledge it seems like. However, I do think that TRP is going from the position of assuming the men who join are complete slobs and building from the ground up so they gain more power in their nook of the world. I just don't believe every man has to be lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 07:01 PM
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Sergey Brin looks like the actor who plays Lucian on Underworld. No question, Sergey Brin hands down.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 11:29 PM
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You only read the title, didn't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 07:53 PM
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My problem with this philosophy is that it claims that happiness and suffering are almost exclusive, as in you cannot be happy if you have or have ever had suffering. That seems like a fundamentally backwards notion to me, because they are both necessary to understand the other. So I disagree completely with your philosophy. I think life is an experience of emotion and learning, not a punishment. Beyond that, basically what /u/TheGreasyPole said sums up my position.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 07:53 PM
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That is a good one. XD
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 07:51 PM
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I knew I liked you for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 07:38 PM
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It seems like a relatively comparable level of basic objectification. Men are idiotic sex fiends, women are useless and stupid sex objects. I haven't looked at many sexist men jokes, but it seems like that's what it would basically boil down to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 07:36 PM
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Hmm. I can't remember any good jokes that are sexist against men. What would some examples be?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 07:25 PM
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I'm not sexist, sexism is wrong and being wrong is for women. Why do brides wear white? So all the appliances match. Why was Helen Keller a bad driver? Because she was a woman. What's a wife? An attachment you screw on the bed to get the housework done. Fairly crude, but I always laugh at those and I'm still a woman last I checked. Nothing wrong with being able to laugh at yourself or your gender or whatever other group you may be part of.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 07:05 PM
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Hoo boy, this is a juicy one. Going to preface all this with a big THIS IS MY OPINION disclaimer. Men should open up emotionally like they're granting you a gift, and that's what I think it should be. A gift that will draw you closer. It shouldn't be given too much, it shouldn't be given too little. Just the right amount. How much is the right amount? I have no clue, sorry not sorry. I think it would vary with the people involved. There aren't really things I don't think a man should be open wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 01:14 AM
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No, because they're a legitimate cult who take over the lives of their followers, cut them off from the world, and take their money, whereas TRP is an internet free-for-all that tells people to do what they want with the information, which leads to many different interpretations on how to apply it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 02:40 PM
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You could just admit you're strawmanning and dodging the actual question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 08:17 PM
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That's not even what the question was though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 07:04 PM
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It's quite tedious How your questions all repeat. Why aren't you bored yet? (This will ruin my haiku, but for real. Why?) Seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 06:37 AM
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You do see that advice occasionally though. Sometimes the response to even neutral phrasing is "He doesn't sound like a good captain." I've given it myself a couple times, I wasn't banned or anything. You may just not be seeing it, it's not as common but it's there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 06:05 PM
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Thank you! :D
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 03:12 AM
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No! I'm a special snowflake! I'm only about half those traits, thank you very much! That is why I am better than everyone else! Now bow to me! Nah man, in all seriousness I think whoever this guy is he's entitled to his opinion. I think it's wrong overall, but as a general rule I find it more pragmatic to assume the worst of people so I don't care if he does the same. My actions and behavior can speak for themselves and I'd rather earn respect than have it handed to me because I'm a woman. I can…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 02:59 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 02:33 AM
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in theory red pill should not be right wing, should it? No, but feminism is left and RPW is anti-feminism. It's not that a right wing agenda is being pushed, it's that feminist encroachment is being prevented.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 05:52 AM
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INTP-T. There was one time I took a test like this and got ISTP, but it's been INTP every other time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 06:05 AM
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Women are able to do that, but they frequently don't. At least, frequently enough for me to have seen it a few times in my small corner of the world. AWALT exists because women do make choices that reflect it. And I'm not saying I'm special, I'm saying I'm not making the choices my biology dictates, the choices I see other women making. If that's just what you call being an adult then I'm very tickled to be a grown up now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 08:39 PM
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Sure I can. Just because it's a biological instinct doesn't mean it's an imperative. For example, I have the instinct to mate with lots of high quality men and incubate their genetic material. I have the personal imperative to make a man my partner in my life and his and not treat him like a shiny new toy I can trade in whenever the next big thing comes along. See how it works?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 07:09 PM
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I'm completely AWALT. But by knowing how I am I also know exactly what impulses to curb. Just because I'm instinctively AWALT doesn't mean I have to stay that way and I think I've improved a lot personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 03:32 PM
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Will do. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 01:29 AM
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No, I'm too wimpy for online multiplayer, unfortunately. XD I get too tense and scream occasionally when I see a target.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 01:24 AM
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It was sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 01:42 PM
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I have never in my life seen men and women get along. Never. It is an impossibility, and it's a miracle the human race has stayed alive this long with how little men and women get along. Seriously? With these questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/15 05:50 AM
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Maybe no arguments that you can think of. Doesn't mean everyone agrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 04:51 PM
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So what you're saying is there is no one on either side who thinks legalizing prostitution is a bad thing, and there's also no one on either side who may want to test their mettle playing devil's advocate for something they don't personally believe. It's not a controversial topic with pros and cons to both sides, and therefore there's no point in debating it. Sound about right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/15 04:40 PM
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I appreciate your concern about my mental and emotional well being, but talking about triggers is actually one of my triggers, so we better stop before I have a breakdown in public. I'm sure you understand. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 04:17 PM
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It's not personal to me, that was a joke. Calm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 04:03 PM
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She's not a victim, she's acting like a crazy ex who can't get over getting dumped. So she gets revenge by burning your things, building a voodoo shrine with hair you left on a pillow, and campaigning to get you expelled from your school by tarnishing your good name and accusing you of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 03:57 PM
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I guess that would depend on how dirty. Like, would I question your hygiene if you told me it was just blonde? And how strong the air of danger is would affect it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 04:31 PM
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Where I live is a very sad place for women like myself, that's for sure. I may need to outsource.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 07:57 AM
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It is a classic. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 01:26 AM
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I can't believe I haven't seen that video before, although I must admit to liking the Ashes to Ashes video more. :D I feel like we have now bonded over a mutual affection for David Bowie.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 12:39 AM
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Wrong Labyrinth, but Pan's Labyrinth is also a good movie. I meant the one that shows David Bowie in all his flamboyant glory. :D I learned a lot about male anatomy from that costume of his.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 12:26 AM
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Alas, the blonde part is almost nonnegotiable. It'd have to be an air of danger like Labyrinth's Goblin King to overcome it, in which case I would likely swoon before I could smell you. It's a shame really. Although this does poke a teensy hole in my theory that these attributes are unicorn-esque in men. Teensy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 12:17 AM
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Hmm. As long as your breath doesn't smell I don't see why not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 11:31 PM
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5'7 and 21. Feel free to wear something for about a week straight and send it for scent verification. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 11:28 PM
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Me? No, haven't been for months.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 10:18 PM
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Taller than me and older than me. Not blonde. Witty and intelligent with a sense of humor. Decisive and trustworthy, with an air of danger just to keep me on my toes. And he has to smell good. Basically, a male unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 10:16 PM
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There are differences from your ex and that post from what I'm reading. For one, the RP poster did not force, coerce, cajole, or plead. He backed off and let her come to him. He sounds more like he had a basic level of respect for her. He also didn't place what he wanted before the boundaries of his partner. Yeah, silent treatment alone is scummy behavior. But he didn't give her the silent treatment. He took some space for himself. He didn't want to be around her for a bit, so he wasn't around h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 02:20 AM
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When I would refuse him he would turn sullen and start ignoring me So he pouted and gave you the silent treatment? That's not really RP man behavior. You didn't dump him then for being a man-child? He would say that porn stars could enjoy it so why couldn't I? So he was watching a lot of porn and expecting it to match up with reality? That's not really RP man behavior. You didn't dump him then for being a man-child? I had tried it for him and not liked it, and was starting to get really irritate…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 12:52 AM
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Is it a perfect system currently? Of course not. My point is I think this suggestion would do more harm than good. On TRP anger posters can be influenced by non-anger posters, helping them see the light at the end of the tunnel so to speak. I'm sure it does get tiresome but people come to RP at different phases in their life with different reasons and I don't think enabling them to stay in anger phase will help.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 05:26 PM
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So instead of actually punching a bag or going shooting you are suggesting they stay online and stew with other people in the same frame of mind. I don't see that having the therapeutic effect you think it will. In fact, I could see it turning out like SRS or SRD. It's a nice thought, but I can't imagine it not backfiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 05:07 PM
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How would devoting an entire subreddit to just the anger phase help men get over it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 04:59 PM
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I like how the video points out that there is a certain fleetingness to simply following wherever your desires take you. "Everyone, except Mr. A and Mrs. B, knows that Mr. A in a year or so may have the same reason for deserting his new wife as for deserting his old one." Fulfilling base desires, while it feels good in the moment, does nothing to help us transcend our animalistic instincts. And while some people would say "That doesn't matter, at this point it's every man/woman for himself" I wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 05:56 PM
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I don't think he coined it, but I'm pretty sure he's purloining it for his own gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 10:48 PM
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He's saying this to promote his new "neomasculinity" agenda. Of course he sees TRP as competition. He's trying to monetize something that's already free.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 10:19 PM
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Umm. I don't know. I'll have to wait for the exposé documentary.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 09:30 AM
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That's why you import. Costs a little more but it makes a huge difference in texture and taste. I think I need to sleep. XD
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 08:49 AM
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I'll have you know that all the liver I use is 100% organic and grown in humane free range conditions! And donated!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 08:24 AM
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You're missing out, I make some bomb chicken enchiladas. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 08:20 AM
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I've always been a more Ted Bundy girl myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 08:07 AM
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Aww, come on, give us some credit. Charles Manson is way too short to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 06:48 AM
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Not quite true, there are sects in Utah that practice polygamy still. There are three groups that I know of. But you're right in that the main church doesn't practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 08:29 PM
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/r/altTRP might be more helpful for you than RPW.
/r/RedPillWomen16/05/15 06:23 PM
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Because dads are men, and they know how men think of women. That was always my impression.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 04:15 PM
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I am heavily red because I can see AWALT traits in myself and I want to be the kind of woman a high quality man would be okay with committing to. I want to improve myself just as much as I want my man to improve himself, and I want to be as low risk of an investment as I can possibly be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 06:39 AM
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It seems to be happening on both sides, where you get down voted within minutes of responding. I'm wondering if there's people who just downvote every comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 05:53 PM
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That's nice dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 07:17 PM
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Helpful? Seeing as how I was actually talking about the statement he made in the comment, and not the whole response to the original question? No, not helpful. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 07:16 PM
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Because he added that she actually is a person with friends too. In another comment. Which really, truly shouldn't be that difficult for you to grasp.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 07:12 PM
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I. Wasn't. Responding. To. That. Question. I don't know how I can make this more clear for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 07:06 PM
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I do agree! See below for a great example. Oh no. Oh heavens. He neglected to mention his wife in one sentence? She must not be allowed to have friends either. I bet she's oppressed too! You better save her from his evil clutches! Seriously. You have no argument here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 06:59 PM
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And yet that is what the comment OP said. Nobody should lead anyone. Which is ridiculous. Which is why I commented. Not my problem if you think I'm arguing about something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 06:57 PM
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My wife and I are both friends with these couples. I am well aware of the wives' feelings because they tell my wife. Reading comprehension is such a wonderful thing, wouldn't you agree? So what does this mean? Is he in charge of all his and her major decisions? Is his say final? I have no way of knowing this, but my guess would be yes. And if the wives in question have no problem with it then you are wasting your energy making it a problem for you. I edited once, twice now, because I realized I …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 06:45 PM
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That's not what I'm talking about at all. The OP of these comments said "No one should be led by anyone at all." That's what I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 06:34 PM
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Common sense, doll. Umm, no. In my experience when married women get together and talk about their husbands they either jump on a complain train or praising one. Maybe battered wives downplay the situations, but I haven't experienced that and you, again, have no way to know that they are lying to a girl friend. That's the order in which he revealed the information. Which you are determined to spin negatively, so kudos on the attempts. In charge of her life? He never said that. He said they were …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 06:32 PM
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Well, since the original position was that nobody should lead anyone I think choosing to follow a leader, even though it's your own agency, still shows that leaders are necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 06:11 PM
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You have no way to determine that they are censoring themselves. And seriously? First he's not talking to them, then his wife's talking to them but they're lying? Is it that hard for you to imagine women being comfortable with a man in charge?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 06:06 PM
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Yeah, but they aren't called inspirers. They're called leaders. They can be called inspiring leaders, but they're still called leaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 05:58 PM
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That's true, and like Atlas_B said above, the women won't become younger, just their eggs. I can imagine a bunch of women trying to be Dr. Cutty on House though, a single mother at 40 who hires a nanny because her career comes first and still gets with hot guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 04:37 PM
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You mean tomboys and tomgirls? They're not that unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 04:29 PM
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It might change it if women think they can wait even longer to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 04:22 PM
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What elaborate manipulation tactics? Is this a dread game argument again? And it's not my personal definition of "alpha," it's Mirriam Webster which is basically socially dominant. I covered that in a reply to someone else. I did not completely ignore your point about legality, I answered it by saying that TRP wouldn't advocate something if it was against the law and detrimental to developing personal strength. It's amoral, not asocial. It's about playing the game as best you can/want to in your…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 01:14 PM
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I do generally prefer older men, but it's not necessary for a RP relationship. What does matter is this: Are you providing enough value to a quality man's life that he is willing to forgo sex with other women? That's what RPW tries to cultivate, being a quality woman for a quality man. I know you're not talking about promiscuity, but that's exactly what I'm talking about. Less is more in makeup and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 12:43 AM
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Genghis Khan most likely saw women as babymakers and chattel. He ruled through fear and backed it up by actually being scary and murdering people who got in his way. He also is not relevant to us culturally. Al Capone ran a gang, of course he was feared, but he also backed it up with actual power. Caesar was killed by his own men for becoming too close to a tyrant, so obviously he had the power, misused it, and was overthrown by people who wanted to take it back. He was unable to hold onto his p…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 12:42 AM
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You're presuming it's not the best outcome for women simply based on a statistic that we actively try to avoid being in. The younger we start playing the market for commitment the more likely we are to get the commitment of a high-value man, while we still have all our assets at their peak. The fewer partners we have the more stable our relationship will be, as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 12:26 AM
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Amoral, not asocial. They aren't going to advocate wife-beating when it is against the law and bad for actual self-improvement and sexual strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 12:21 AM
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So that means I need to support them? Kim Jong Un probably uses violence, does that make him a good alpha leader? Do you think he reads and implements RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 11:53 PM
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Because it is not acceptable in our society to beat women. And it doesn't work in the sexual world. It is a high risk behavior with no benefit towards self-improvement or mental strength or slaying mad pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 11:51 PM
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Okay, I shall explain this in story form. Person 1: I'm old! I can't believe time has passed so quickly! Person 1's Friend: You're not old! Age is just a number! You're only as old as you feel! LQ: Person 1's Friend, that's what old people say! So yes, beating people may be an assertion of power, fine. But it's an assertion of power only the powerless make, just like age is only a number to old people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 11:50 PM
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Beating your wife shows superior physical prowess? We already know that men are physically stronger than we are. We don't need it proven to us. If a guy has to beat his wife to show her he's the boss then he's really just trying to convince himself and he knows it's a lie. It is indicative of a weakness of mind that he has to hurt those weaker than himself to feel masculine. Also, I would say that your historical examples are kind of irrelevant because different times and cultures had different …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 11:47 PM
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Beating an SO is a loss of frame, not an assertion of power. And while RP is amoral there are things that it clearly doesn't support, such as physical abuse as seen in the link I provided. So if that's hamstering then give me a wheel and I'll spin away. Heaven forbid RP not be the embodiment of evil, so sorry to ruin your day.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 07:44 PM
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I think it's shame that RPWT doesn't post here anymore. He was always...intense...with his wording but he made good points.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 05:04 PM
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It is a massive loss of control, and "alpha strength" is all about self-control. This mod probably said it best.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 04:33 PM
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Yep. Apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 09:31 PM
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My best friend prefers virginal/low count men too. She says they don't have any bad habits she has to train out. To each his own I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 03:33 PM
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How strange. I think the exact same thing occasionally about people who vote liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 05:34 AM
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Why are you trying to cure yourself? Do you not want to be part of the dark side anymore? I made cookies for the super secret Destroy All Women meeting tonight. :( Oh, wait, you mean for the cult practice? That's fine. All unicorns are secretly slutty. The diamond tears are only for the cure for terpism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 01:45 AM
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If it looks like dread game and acts like dread game, I'll just go ahead and call it dread game. But don't worry, I'll be sure to let my dad know that you think if he knew what my mother's response would be to his workouts he would be a very bad man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 06:21 PM
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i not think you know what those words mean That's what she said. Nothing about a flimsy link between ontological philosophy and RP theory. Terrible grammar aside, she only stated that she thought he didn't know what those words meant, making it painfully obvious she had no idea what she was talking about. It's not our job to hold her hand and explain things to her, which makes it a pointless comment and detrimental to the debate. Also, he's not wrong. RP is more ontological than empirical, regar…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 05:33 PM
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But to say that the OP doesn't know what the words mean when you actually don't understand what they mean? That's kind of pointless and detrimental to the debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 05:11 PM
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Ah yes, the secret terper weakness and the real reason they refuse to LTR sluts. Should we be worried about spilling all of our dark secrets, or do you think onlookers will just assume it's a joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 04:14 PM
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Yup, yup, diamond virgin unicorn tears. The virgin part is important, remember, because as everyone knows, no hymen, no diamond. It's classic misdirection, everyone thinks RPers are talking about marriage when that's said but really it's just good cult practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 04:00 PM
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Are you asking when the transformation occurs from a normal person to a misogynistic narcisstic manipulative EVIL one? The transformation occurs in the darkest part of the night after they read RP theory, after that you have until the sun rises to reverse the transformation before it becomes permanent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 03:45 PM
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My dad unintentionally dread games my mother. They'll be out together and she'll notice other women checking him out, you know? She gets all "Ugh, how dare she! I'm right here!" She'll point it out to my dad, he doesn't even notice. She brags about it to me later, when we meet up for lunch. He had a testosterone deficiency before, now he injects it and he has so much energy now he gets angry more often and works it off by lifting weights. He's lost approximately 70 lbs. My mother's reaction is "…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 03:24 PM
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No, deciding to look better is exactly dread game, it's soft dread and it's in the definition on the Red Pill sidebar. It says something along the lines of "even the possibility of more attention instills dread." This is why you BPers think it's so bad and evil and manipulative, you don't understand what it is. And it's ridiculous to say that going to the gym is manipulative. What, we poor females can't handle it when our guy works on himself and maintains his attractiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 02:48 PM
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Because when you go to the gym and get hotter you will get more attention. When you go out on your own in public looking hotter you will get more attention. Dread game isn't all nuclear. Going to the gym is literally in the definition so you can't say it's just PC or parroting based on my terminology. And you're treating jealousy like it's only a negative. For me, the time I felt no jealousy when a waitress flirted with my bf is how I knew it was over with him. A little healthy jealousy let's yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 10:14 PM
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To incite jealousy by getting attention or the possibility of attention from other women, therefore encouraging your partner to step up their game.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 09:48 PM
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I can only presume from this statement that you are claiming to have seen terpers in the wild. How, then, did you see them execute dread game wrongly? And are you using the RP definition of dread game which I cannot link to currently?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 09:38 PM
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Nope. Negging is more PUA than RP, and dread game is playing hard to get while looking fabulous. I agree that negging is a dick move but dread game does nothing to harm the other person unless they are massively insecure and can't handle you looking good and having personal time away from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 09:27 PM
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Not all sexual strategies are amoral. RP is amoral. Rape is not. You're trying really hard to make that false equivalency though, so kudos.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 09:14 PM
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No, it means as decided by our society it is immoral and punishable. Probably should have added that. It wasn't a punishable offense in other societies, but it doesn't make it less immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 09:10 PM
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The sexual strategy provided in TRP is amoral. Rape is immoral sexual strategy as decided by our society. Rape is not a sexual strategy included in TRP theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 09:04 PM
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well I'm saying your experience isn't reflective of the norm Good thing I said "Maybe it's just who I'm around" and "in my experience" then. At this point you're just quibbling over semantics because it seems like we agree about the principle.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 08:40 PM
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So basically you're disagreeing just to disagree. Got it. You could have just said that in your first reply. Also, I never said all fair and equal relationships are like that. I was trying to say that in my experience the people who are concerned with fairness and equality are the type that make tallies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 08:27 PM
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Okay? What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 08:13 PM
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No, I wouldn't be friends with someone who exclusively took and never gave, and I never said I would. I said we don't bother keeping an exact tally.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 07:57 PM
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Of course we know there's a middle ground, who doesn't? The only problem with it is that on the surface fair and equal relationships sound great. It just rarely seems to work out like that in reality without you sounding persnickety. "I spent $50 on your birthday present, sure hope you remember that because my birthday is coming up." Maybe it's just who I'm around, but we don't bother keeping everything exactly fair. I guess it would be said that my friends are selfish. They are very materialist…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 07:17 PM
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Still a pretty green. It's like a brighter foil to the rest of the colors.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 05:49 AM
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The only issue I could see with mods participating is if they get ban-happy with opposition, and I've never seen that happening. Plus it makes the pages more colorful with the green flair mixed with the red and purple and blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 05:37 AM
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Well, I work with lots of women who like to chat so I end up hearing stuff like this frequently. One lady, who's a bit larger, complains about all her health problems and then says "I never eat vegetables" or "I had chocolate chip cookies, a root beer float, and potato chips for dinner last night." I don't know how mainstream my little sample size is, but I am 95% sure that none of them are on Tumblr because most of them are in the 40-70 age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 05:33 AM
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Spend enough time with fat women and you start hearing things like "Ugh, eat a sandwich" and "I don't know why you bother with a salad, men prefer curves."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 01:57 AM
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Oh man. That's so true. I can't believe I didn't realize that. You're right. Let's go ahead and put trigger warnings in front of everything, I'm sure that won't end badly. What shall we talk about instead? The moons of Saturn? Or does that need a TW: possible aliens attached to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/15 01:31 AM
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The University of California sent out a recommendation trigger warnings be posted on class syllabi. Here's another article about it. It was retracted because the professors fought it, but it's not just an internet phenomena. They may just be a few people, but they are a vocal few. And again, it trivializes actual PTSD triggers, which is something I am quite opposed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 10:43 PM
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No, my point is that trigger warnings are so ridiculously overused that they are becoming a joke. They are delegitimizing it for when people actually need a content warning, just like the boy who cried wolf. And you can't say it's not censorship when that is precisely what it is used for. "Being triggered" has turned into "I don't like what you're saying, so stop it." You said you've been triggered before, but wouldn't demand a trigger warning. I am in that exact same position. But other people …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 10:17 PM
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Trigger warnings are presented as a gesture of empathy, but the irony is they lead only to more solipsism, an over-preoccupation with one’s own feelings—much to the detriment of society as a whole. Structuring public life around the most fragile personal sensitivities will only restrict all of our horizons. Engaging with ideas involves risk, and slapping warnings on them only undermines the principle of intellectual exploration. We cannot anticipate every potential trigger—the world, like the In…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 09:54 PM
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The problem is thinking we can solve anything as nebulous as gender relations with a few well-placed solution bombs. I think another problem is assuming that the issues we talk about are a cause instead of a symptom. Change has to come from within but Western society is becoming so fragmented that we can't change anything from within because there's not enough of a within to make a difference. At this point, it sometimes seems like all you can really do is focus on yourself, but even that approa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 07:04 PM
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See, I have to disagree with you here. When a child is sexually abused at a young age by someone they love and trust it starts to cross wires in their brain, which makes them misinterpret what happened to them very frequently. To them, love means you get hurt. I was really into this a while ago, I ended up finding a book that completely changed how I perceived people who were abused, written by a psychologist who specialized in survivors of child abuse. Basically you end up on an extreme end of …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 06:25 PM
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I think your problem with this is you're not a woman. Things make sense to us females that men just don't get because our brains are wired differently. It's usually (I hope) not a lack of self-awareness as much as a different approach to the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 08:05 PM
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I would say that depends on your application of the word "inherent." All humans are inherently manipulative for their own benefit, just look at babies. They don't care if you just feel asleep, if they want food they want it now. Their cries are tailored to get what they want/need from you as soon as possible. Isn't that manipulative? But when babies and children are growing up a girl's attempts at manipulation, such as pouting or crying, are more likely to get results than boy's attempts at mani…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 05:24 PM
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I've never seen it. I was referring more to the "fat is sexy" movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 03:47 AM
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Never. Sex is great, the connection with your SO is great, kids are grubby and obnoxious but also adorable and great. It's all worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 05:20 AM
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And what about what her husband wanted? Because that's what RPW was pointing out. She was doing nothing for her husband and he was dissatisfied. Which is why RPW said to either try this if you want your relationship to survive or don't try it and he may end up divorcing you to get what he wants/needs. It's not abuse to want to try things. It's not abuse to not want to try things. But if she refused to try them and he decided that his marriage was unimportant to him because of that then that is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 03:49 AM
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If he's not happy in the relationship and tells her he wants to leave if she makes no effort how is that abuse? That's communication. He's telling her what he needs, giving her the chance to either change or not to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:43 AM
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Seriously? Okay, TIL compromising and trying new things for your partner equals abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:22 AM
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And sometimes relationships require sacrifices. If she was living in perfect marital bliss but her husband wasn't satisfied, he was making more sacrifices than he could live with. If she tried changing for a month and decided it was more than she could live with then neither of them would be happy with each other regardless of the gender dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:12 AM
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If you actually want to save your marriage, then, after that talk with him where you actually hear what he is asking you to do, you try to do it. He wants you to stop questioning his decisions? For the sake of your marriage, you keep negative comments to yourself. He wants you to be submissive in the bedroom? For the sake of your marriage, you let him toss you around. He wants to decide where to go and what to do? For the sake of your marriage, you go and do those things with a smile. Give it an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:02 AM
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Words are not actions. Actions like trying to take away women's right to vote would be laughed out of any courthouse and everyone knows this. Just because men are being sour grapes on an internet forum doesn't mean women are imminently threatened by their words.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 11:08 PM
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It's only bad to the people who don't get sex, either unattractive men or unattractive women who can't get sex with the men they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 06:12 PM
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Umm, my memory is foggy because I was rage-tripping on Vanilla Coke, but his first comment was something along the lines of how he was frustrated that we RPers refused to learn from his theory that we're all narcisstic autistics. His second one was that it was just speculative, not for realsies. Third one was stupid "gotcha!" questions about fact and theory and how it relates to Red Pill. It wasn't personal attacks or anything bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 09:44 PM
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Then we're operating under different sets of rules. I don't think it's okay to go off and party with people of the opposite gender when you're in a committed relationship. If you don't have a problem with it that's fine, but it's not a universal principle there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 09:09 PM
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Regardless of how they should handle this she behaved badly, listening to his concerns and fears and completely ignoring them. So saying he should just give her the benefit of the doubt isn't really helpful when she hasn't demonstrated trustworthiness in this particular situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 08:37 PM
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This comment by /u/Bluemonkey828282 raises enough questions that I think it's valid to question her further. Giving people the benefit of the doubt all the time is a good way to get taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 08:13 PM
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Well hallelujah, something we can agree on! /s Edit: Added sarcasm tag. I forget people can't read my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 07:44 PM
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How the ****ing hell am I supposed to know? I'm not going to do a stupid study to figure out a meaningless statistic. I don't care about them. I care about what works for me. Oh, wait, does that make me a narcissist now?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 07:40 PM
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Look at MissPearl's testing of being a RPW for a month. It simply wasn't going to work for her because she had a functioning dynamic already. It's not just a theory of how to be fit, it's a theory of patterns of human behavior. If you don't fit that pattern, great. Don't try to follow it. But don't say that it isn't valid just because it doesn't work for you. Same ball.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 07:34 PM
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It's a fact that it's a theory that works for me. It's a fact that it's a theory that works for others. It's a fact that it's a theory that wouldn't work for everyone. It's a fact that it is testable to determine whether or not it will work for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 07:26 PM
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Eh, I've always seen it more as hyperbole because women can be childish. Men can too, don't get up in arms about it, but the focus is on women in there. And I don't know if I'm the norm, but I've noticed that I can absolutely be childish. I just don't see it as always being a bad thing. I'll throw tantrums, I'll pout, I'll do what it takes to get my way depending on my audience. I'm not proud of it, it's embarrassing looking back so I'm trying to change that. But I also smile frequently, which I…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 01:01 AM
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I don't automatically dislike anyone. When I do dislike someone it's because they are idiots, which isn't necessarily a BP or RP trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 11:13 PM
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I wouldn't say they're anathema, but when you grow up in a culture that encourages you to think you deserve or are entitled to whatever you want it's really easy to just go along with it instead of asking why.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 08:59 PM
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From the Red Pill sidebar: Soft Dread is similar, but less open. With Soft Dread, the attention doesn't even need to be real. Creating the possibilty for female attention is enough to get the hamster going....The purpose of using Dread is to get the target (wife, girlfriend, plate) to step up their game to compete with other interested women. From the urban dictionary: playing hard to get When a prospective sexual partner knows that you are seeking thier attention, they will do all they can to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 05:43 AM
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Boy, you're bossy. Since you brought it up I had another nit-pick. :) "Playing hard to get" is basic dread game. It's not all nuclear emotional manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 05:28 AM
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Heaven forbid I question assertions in a debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 05:25 AM
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Yeah. Maybe you shouldn't make ridiculously baseless assertions like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 05:19 AM
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Correlation is not causation. But you have no actual argument for this apparently, beyond "they can be" and your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 04:55 AM
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The two still aren't necessarily related.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 04:47 AM
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Immaturity =\= lack of confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 04:40 AM
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A rule-loosening on the top level posts sounds good in theory but if it were implemented it would probably just lead to people who agree with the premise circlejerking. Maybe a loosening on what defines a CMV and a Discussion thread. If the criteria for a CMV is as broad as an inflammatory or one-sided title then of course we're going to get more CMV threads. But a lot of the posts labeled as CMV recently have seemed more appropriate for Discussion instead. Maybe we just need clarifying on what …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 06:11 AM
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say there's a reason that book isn't included in the actual RPW sidebar. That's some silly advice right there. In fact, what's actually in the sidebar is the opposite of that book. Femininity has nothing to do with being a doormat Femininity is not acting ditzy or dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 05:01 AM
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but more stabby This is how I know I like you. My sentiments exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 08:25 PM
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Understanding how other people think, even if you disagree with them, can't be a bad thing. Debates like these are how I grew out of the mentality that people who disagree with me are evil personified.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 12:58 AM
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Yeah, I pop in there if I'm feeling particularly bored. Then I leave just as quickly and start F5ing TOMT again.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 12:25 AM
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/r/FeMRADebates
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 11:56 PM
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There's a subreddit for that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 11:47 PM
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Yep. 100% this. Explaining my views helps me solidify them. That's right BPers. You're feeding me. XD
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 11:32 PM
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Well, I guess as long as a big strong man tells me to, I can go to a boot camp. XD
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 08:47 PM
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Where? Li'l ol' me? ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 08:34 PM
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I think you just broke my brain. I've never even heard of someone who hasn't seen it until now. O.o I'll just call it an "expanded worldview" I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 07:55 PM
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Is that Princess Bride quote intentional, or just a happy coincidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 07:45 PM
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That's true. Progress for one group isn't progress for other groups. But there's not really a solution to that. There's little common ground between these two groups alone. I just think everyone would benefit by not judging people just for their choices, or thinking they know better than everyone who believes differently, which is my main gripe with feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 07:34 PM
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I never said they were bad things. I'm all about people being able to choose, even if they choose differently than me. But I dislike that feminists and liberals and whoever refuse to extend the same courtesy by letting me choose things differently than they would.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 07:10 PM
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Unencumbered luxury huh? So women are still victims of circumstances beyond their control, they all have to get careers? Woman don't get to choose what they want, life chooses for them? Is that what you're saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 07:07 PM
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Where did I say I care? I'm ignoring them all, obviously. I'm disappointed at how my family member feels about men. But they can judge all they want, I'm not going to change. I'm not complaining, I'm pointing out that feminism is judgy. A gold star would be nice if it were delivered by a hot guy. But I won't hold my breath.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 06:53 PM
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Eh, I'm going to tell you my interpretation anyways. Being a wife and mother isn't a sit down shut up environment unless you're in an abusive relationship. Is the camel's back broken yet? And if you can't see that we live in a female-centric, feminist society then you're blind. I could throw out the 60/40 college attendance, divorce court and custody stats, the breaking down of traditional gender roles, and abortion and birth control stats until I'm blue in the face and it won't reach you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 06:50 PM
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Do you realize what you just did? You said a far more desirable environment than pressure to just sit down and shut up and in the next breath you proceeded to tell me to sit down and shut up. and no, I'm not interested in hearing your flipped interpretation of that So, why should I listen to you again? There wasn't even a semblance of an argument besides "I'm right and you're wrong so stop talking." I'm going to go ahead and say that trying to gauge the state of gender relations in the Western w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 06:30 PM
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Why would they feel threatened? What is so dire about me not wanting a career that they need to dissuade me from it? And no, RPW says that you can even be a career woman with it if you want, not that you have to be barefoot and pregnant and a SAHM. Are trying to say that TRP is the group in power? Is this a patriarchy thing? Because if so that's ridiculous. Feminism is undoubtedly the group with power in our culture and if anything, they should support my choices because I am the one making them…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 06:00 PM
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I personally have been more judged for my lifestyle choices by feminists or female empowerment believers than I have ever been on RP or RPW. When I tell people my goals they're incredulous. "Why do you want to get married so soon? There's plenty of time to have kids after you get a career started. Why do you want to tie yourself down to a family so quickly?" The best ones come regularly from a close family member. "You shouldn't even be dating. You don't need men, they're worthless." So I'll tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 05:41 PM
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Which you can't prove applies to RPers. So, you know. Ta da, we're back where we started!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 02:08 AM
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So is bitterness and anger now an indicator of ASD? I would just call that being a person who's been hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 01:37 AM
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A) Eh, not really. They're trying to make it sound like a breeding ground for sociopaths. B) Is it flattering? No, I wouldn't say that either. C) The tone is emphasizing the "abusive" and "manipulative nature" that apparently is all things RP. Ever. D) Umm. No idea. Skip. E) I would...be intrigued, I think? I don't actually remember how I found RP and RPW in the first place, but it seems like it would have been a comment similar to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 01:35 AM
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Their expressed behaviors are on the internet. The internet is not real life. But hey, at least you admit that you're speculating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 01:21 AM
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You have? You can conclusively provide evidence that all RPers, male and female, score on the ASD?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 01:05 AM
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Is this really something "a lot" of people don't understand? I find that hard to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 10:37 PM
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Me too. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 05:27 PM
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When in doubt, switch to semantics. Good plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 05:23 PM
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It was sarcasm. That wasn't the actual conclusion I came to. See how it works?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 05:13 PM
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They use these tools to show just how ridiculous TRP can be by being facetious. The problem is that it flies over the head of RPers such as yourself. It sure sounds like you're saying BPers are coming down from on high to show all RPers the error of their ways, but the RPers are too dumb to recognize it. Either that, or it is a thinly disguised personal attack at OP, when it's actually very easy to not realize people are being sarcastic over the internet. Besides, BPers don't like it when we are…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 04:58 PM
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Just pointing out that it's not one-sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 04:41 PM
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RPers aren't the only ones who can't recognize sarcasm or hyperbole.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 04:22 PM
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Well then why do people even get in relationships? As long as the capacity is there then it's apparently toxic and everyone should break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 07:42 PM
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Every. Woman. Ever. Has the capacity to keep sex away once they're in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 06:31 PM
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I'm concerned about the many young, inexperienced men who don't deserve to be rejected by girls over and over again with no clue as to what they're doing wrong. I think they can really be helped, but instead the world is telling them that women really really want a good listener with an open wallet, and if they just stick it out eventually there'll be a girl who will marry and have pity sex with him. They don't deserve that. Unfortunately, I can't teach all these men that. And even if I could, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 06:28 PM
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All around Reddit? There's approximately 100,000 subscribers. There are approximately 7 billion people in the world. About 174 million of those visit Reddit. TRP is a drop in the world's very large bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 03:05 AM
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Why wouldn't I be? It's their space. Did you not have siblings growing up?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 02:54 AM
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Dinner and a movie first. This isn't TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 02:41 AM
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I know, right? Good thing I love kids. Does this mean I don't get my debate though, if all you can do is mock me for being family-oriented? Typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 02:29 AM
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You sound a lot like my mother, she's a bit of a worrier too. :) There are birth control options that don't affect hormones, like a copper IUD or spermicide. And with the self-esteem issues, I totally get it, although my personal flaws aren't the same as yours. But everyone's human, everyone has moments where they feel awkward or unattractive. If you can't look taller and more seductive you could try going the short and adorable route, with flats and dresses and light makeup. You don't have to m…
/r/RedPillWomen11/04/15 02:04 AM
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I'm not angry, why would I be angry? You're reading too much into it. You calling me biased is really funny though, seeing as how you're the one who tried to compare it to racism. If I'm biased then you are too. (That's not anger either, by the way. I'm just being snide.) Did you not see my flair? I thought it was pretty clever, because it's so true. According to BP I am terribly misogynistic for thinking men have the right to their own woman-free spaces and that women have the right to choose a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 01:54 AM
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On the first problem, you sound like you're being too hard on yourself. It's Missing Tile Syndrome. Let your boyfriend make you feel beautiful. They love it when you feel hot. And remembering MTS helps me when I feel insecure. I just ask myself, "How closely do I really look at other people? Oh, I guess I don't really. Are other people going to care how I look? Probably not." On the birth control issue there are other contraceptive options, like an IUD. It's not going to be the end of your relat…
/r/RedPillWomen11/04/15 12:58 AM
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Again, she would have been more than welcome at RPW. They don't need her approval in TRP, and it is a male-centered sub, not male-and-snowflake-female centered sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 09:39 PM
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No, it doesn't bother me. She said she's not looking for attention but her second sentence was "I'm a woman." How is that not demanding attention for your gender? RP isn't there to make her happy, and they aren't going to change the premise of the entire sub just because one woman goes there and says "I'm different!" She would be more than welcome in RPW if she was being genuine, because it's specifically for women who want to improve their lives with RP theory. But not in TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 09:00 PM
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I was being sarcastic, because if Fuschia actually read RPW she'd see a lot more on how to improve yourself to fix relationship issues than on changing your man. But I know what you're saying, those newbs. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:09 PM
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Women are allowed to contribute as long as they don't try to lord their gender over the men or give advice contrary to RP. I've commented there before, no one told me tits or gtfo. Men are allowed to contribute to RPW as long as they don't try to get relationship advice or give advice contrary to RPW. There is crossover allowed. And no, it's still not comparable to racial segregation. Different groups of people are allowed to have different goals. You don't go to /r/bigboobproblems and tell them…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 08:06 PM
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Two genders can't discuss separate strategies in a forum more focused on their gender? It's not comparable to racial segregation if that's what you're trying to imply. Men and women can have their own spaces without being sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:18 PM
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Really? That's weird. I see more posts on makeup and fitness than on how to "change your man."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 02:51 AM
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Bullshit. RPW is about making yourself a better mate for your SO, not other random men. We have different goals from RP men, who are mostly focused on plate spinning. We're trying to be the kind of woman a high value man feels safe committing to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 11:30 PM
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I disagree with the active campaigning against marriage on the RP men side. I can understand why they say it, it really is a bad deal for men if it goes sour, but I think it's important to raise children in a stable environment and I think marriage is necessary for that. Since children are necessary for society to continue I think marriage needs to continue. If more women actually stepped up their game and made their spouses a priority it wouldn't be such a bad idea for men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 04:14 AM
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Oh no, I hung out with a guy like this the first time he blacked out. All he could say when he was drunk was "No one likes me. No girls want me. Bleh, bleh." (Bucket's your friend kiddo. back pat, eye roll) There is no getting through to these people. When they're that entrenched in their doubt there's nothing you can do or say to help because they're the only ones who can decide to change and they won't change until they hit rock bottom. Feeling like you're broken is something only therapy will…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 11:34 PM
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Does this make us PPD besties now? ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 05:32 PM
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That's fair. I can see how people would come to that conclusion. I just get irritated when people sweep all RPW under the victim label, which it looked like you were doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 05:04 PM
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Okay, you said most. I still don't think it's remotely accurate to say most women who agree with RPW must be broken inside. And I misread on the current SO part, but even committing to someone you're not attracted to is advised against. RPW =/= self esteem issues, which is what it sounds like your friend has.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 04:40 PM
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So now your friend is what all RPW are? Because there's a few things she's done that RPW advocate against, like getting married to a guy she's not attracted to and bouncing around in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 04:22 PM
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I'm not really sure that the distinction is an important one to make, because anger comes with too much frustration, and both of them stem from fear. Also, RP doesn't call it the "frustration phase."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 02:48 PM
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Parts of them. I don't think it's cynical to assume the worst of people as long as you're not rude outright, and I think anger is a healthy emotion as long as it's taken care of properly. I think RP men generally have pretty good reasons for their anger, and as long as they don't let it consume them it's not important.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 12:23 AM
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Women aren't a Satanic cult conspiring to keep men down. They're just people with hopes and dreams of their own and assuming the worst of everyone is cynical. The rage directed at women in the RP sub is futile and a crutch RP men use to stay bitter. People get hurt all the time without resorting to misogyny. The reason behind it is because they're really scared of women. They're scared of how much power women have over them, so they pretend women are all just children who will always trade up fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 12:09 AM
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What's wrong with segregation in an online discussion forum? Men and women have different strategies, the conversations reflect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 08:27 PM
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http://www.diffen.com/difference/Empathy_vs_Sympathy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 07:02 PM
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Your definitions are backwards. Empathy is where you understand because you've been right there before. Sympathy is just when you understand why someone feels the way they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 06:51 PM
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What can I say, I love hyperbole.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 08:31 PM
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It's an exaggeration, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 06:10 PM
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Yeah, self-improvement is a good thing, which is why just be yourself is such terrible advice. It practically begs you to become complacent and then blame the world if you're unhappy, because you followed their advice and nothing good happened. I also agree that if you stray too far from who you naturally are you will be unhappy. But that doesn't make "be yourself" good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 03:16 PM
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"Just be yourself" is terrible advice. It's led to a generation of men who are sitting in their mother's basement waiting for their manic pixie dream girl to swoop in and show them that the power was in them all along. Yourself is generally a pretty awful person to be around if you think it's all you need to be. It's also a bastardized, feel-good corruption of what the advice should be: Be your best self. But people rarely say that one, because it requires work. Out of curiosity, do you also agr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 03:00 PM
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What, you don't like my story telling? And yes, money is still money. Doesn't mean I have to go knock heads together to get it. I don't like getting dirty, I don't like being in charge, so you can't say that everyone in the world has to be aggressive and dominant and running their own company to be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/15 04:09 PM
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The boss really isn't that bad. And the job is great. So, yeah, that may have worked for your friend but I'm quite happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/15 04:00 PM
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What /u/PsychoticMouse said is spot on. I would also suggest /r/Frugal for other tips. It's pretty handy. But the biggest thing is don't spend what you don't have, and live within your means.
/r/RedPillWomen04/04/15 06:30 AM
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I think I live in a world where women really don't want to seem as shallow as we usually are. And the message is there, but it isn't directed at men nearly enough apparently. Of course if you ask directly "Do you think being handsome is important for getting women?" you'll get a yes answer. But if you ask "What traits do you think women find attractive?" you get answers like passion, creativity, thoughtfulness, or good listener, and if physical attractiveness is touched on it is always with the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/15 12:07 AM
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And yet unattractive men still think favors win hearts. What else could be the explanation for beta orbiters?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 11:30 PM
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And yet if everyone were dominant and uncontrollable with inflated egos nothing would ever get done. Submission has a place in society, and it's completely necessary. We are social creatures and we rely on hierarchy. You can't be dominant in a work environment, for example, when you're not the one in charge. Once upon a time there was a girl who got an almost perfect job. But her boss was very controlling, angry, yelled frequently, was sarcastic, etc. Did this bother the girl at all? No, because…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 10:04 PM
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Yeah, and it is more common for girls to realize that attraction is a main component. But even my brothers growing up right now think that doing favors for a girl is how you get her to like you. As far as men putting in the effort, that's what RP is doing. It's not the first self-improvement forum, it's not the last, but that's what it is. Teaching men how to be attractive to as many women as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 09:43 PM
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I don't know where they learn these things. Society, their mothers, their fathers, friends, who knows. But boys are being taught this from some source, and they are being deluded. Also, learning things like "Be attractive" from a young age is not the norm. I have not once heard this in real life, and the only place I see it online is RP and RPW. "Be yourself" is what I always heard, not even "Be your best self." So no, it's not common knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 09:13 PM
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I have a question. The mods add the flair to posts, how quickly does that happen? Like, is there a window where someone can comment on a post but then the flair is added and it's for the other side? And if that happens, does it count against you if the comment is removed?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 07:33 PM
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Because they aren't being taught to do bad things. They're taught that if they are nice, supportive, and devoted to a girl that she'll eventually see him and they'll fall in love and live happily ever after, when in reality that just makes a man a "really great friend." Cracked wrote a really good article about it: http://www.cracked.com/article_19785_5-ways-modern-men-are-trained-to-hate-women.html
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 07:25 PM
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RP men exist, and we have similar views on gender relations. Don't really think about them beyond that. 2 sexual partners. I'm naturally submissive and defer to others, but if they get too controlling I'll rebel. I value my independence, which sounds really irritating but I just need certain degrees of autonomy. I'm not a unicorn, I'm just well aware of my nature and if I'm not choosing to overcome it with someone it's because I don't like them very much. I love how all RPW must be abuse victims…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 07:11 PM
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You're trying to make it sound like some dangerous trend. They're either exaggerating or they're crazy. Either way, it should be taken just as seriously as when feminists say all men should die.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 07:38 PM
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So if you think some feminists are just crazy, and the majority don't really want all men to just die, then why do you not extend the same courtesy to young men saying the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 06:00 PM
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Exactly. The user I was responding to asserted that RP requires it though, and I was countering it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 12:45 AM
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No they cannot. If you start a relationship in one way, you can't change it on a whim and expect your partner to be okay with it. That's what I'm saying. If you both end up agreeing to it, then you can change the rules, but if not you can't make unilateral decisions that affect both of you, like a threesome. And I have yet to see RP say anything like that, that women have to accept threesomes. Which was my whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 12:38 AM
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I don't recall saying anyone should be forced into being OK with threesomes. That's because you didn't say it. The user I was responding to said that RP says that. And no, I'm saying that if someone in a relationship tries to change the rules the partner doesn't have to follow along. From there the suggester can either drop the issue or make a big deal out of it and end the relationship to get what they want. I have no idea what your point is beyond that, because I don't know what you mean when …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 12:22 AM
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Monogamy is a choice. Polyamory is a choice. In a relationship it's a choice you have to make together, and either party can say no. Women aren't forced to be okay with threesomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 02:35 PM
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Of course rape fantasies don't mean you want to be raped. The idea behind it in my view is that the fantasizers want to be so desirable to a (high value) man that he will lose control completely and have to have her. There's outliers to that but it all comes down to being overpowered and submitting. This preference seems rooted in insecurity. This has been addressed so many times here I'm not even going to bother. Also, proficiency in bed has little to do with number count, male or female. It co…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 05:40 AM
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People prefer healthy and intelligent people. I don't think this is gender specific. Never said it was gender specific, I'm just focusing on the female side. It was in response to the whole "women should submit" thing. Women are predominantly submissive in bed, 1 in 3 admits to rape fantasies, romances everywhere depict traits of "alpha men" whose only weakness is the protag. Women want a stronger man, stronger men tend to lead. this isn't true in the reverse roles? It depends on the man. Is he …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 04:48 AM
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Or the majority of women prefer the company of strong (mentally and physically) men, having a low partner count shows she has standards and values her body and acknowledges that it inherently has value to men, can choose monogamy just as he can choose not to be in a monogamous relationship, and she doesn't have to sacrifice her own desires but she should stop blaming him for every issue without looking at herself first.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/15 02:03 AM
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What? What happened? Are you okay?
/r/RedPillWomen31/03/15 01:34 AM
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Okay, the background context helps, but what sort of harassment was it? Was it "Oh man, you should have seen her, she was crazy drunk" or was it "She's such an idiot when she's drunk, not like it's that much different from every day, right babe?" Also, he was afraid you would "rape" him? Is he serious? Obviously we don't have his side of the story, but the dude sounds shady. If my SO said that to me I would immediately think there was another girl hiding in there or he didn't want me to smell hi…
/r/RedPillWomen30/03/15 11:34 PM
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What sorts of things does he say to his friends? Because there is a difference between friendly teasing and malicious belittling. If it's friendly teasing maybe if you told him it is humiliating when he does it in front of his friends, give him puppy dog eyes, put your arms around his neck, tell him with your body language and your words that this is important to you and you would be very grateful if he stopped. If it's malicious it shows a complete lack of respect and maturity. You said his fri…
/r/RedPillWomen30/03/15 11:02 PM
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There are cultures, particularly in Africa, where women walk around without tops, but they cover up ankles and other parts and it's considered just as scandalous to show them as it is to show breasts here. Basic standards of human decency are something we've developed as a race, not a form of oppression. The whole movement is laughable.
/r/RedPillWomen29/03/15 11:37 PM
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"I'll show those men they can't objectify me by showing them Helga and Olga without even getting dinner first! That'll teach them!" Meanwhile men take surreptitious pictures which will be all over the internet faster that you can undo your bra. Yeah, I fail to see the logic too.
/r/RedPillWomen29/03/15 11:29 PM
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I can, but I try not to use my powers for evil. ;) The waterworks are just strong, so it doesn't take much for me to lose control over the systems.
/r/RedPillWomen29/03/15 10:03 PM
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im not sure that's the same as being optimal for individual people But that's the problem with it now, if it becomes inconvenient for people they just bail on it instead of working on it, and building the bonds necessary for successful marriages. It's become commonplace for people to put their individual desires ahead of their family unit's needs. I don't think that's good for families or society. It breeds selfishness and (can I say this without invoking /u/taiboworks?) narcissism. If people ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 06:14 AM
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My view is that marriage shouldn't be just about you and your happiness. It should be about your and your spouse and your (potential) children's happiness. Love isn't a constant, but marriages shouldn't just be for love. Marriage is two people saying they enjoy each other's company and have similar enough life goals that they want to accomplish them together, not "let's just live together until we meet someone better or don't like each other anymore." Families are also the basic building block o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 05:41 AM
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He's not guilty of anything but thinking differently than you. And no one asked you to retract your statement, they are rebutting you. The clarifications on their part are only backpedaling and damage control to you because of how you interpreted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 05:10 AM
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Nowhere in his criteria did he imply he had no respect for his wife's opinion, even by your definition. He said he wanted to be consulted with on decisions, nothing about how he would listen, nod, and completely ignore them. You're assuming the worst here. why even point it out at all if you know everyone is guilty of it? Because this is a debate sub, and it's nice and refreshing when people actually have an argument. You also didn't see the straw man. Really, I did you a favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 05:02 AM
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"The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position. This sort of "reasoning" has the following pattern: Person A has position X. Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X). Person B attacks position Y. Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed." You're saying that if he wants a submissive wife he must not respect other people's opinions or independence. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 04:51 AM
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I'm going to assume that RP marriages will be used as examples of "violent relationships." You can be the dominant one in the relationship and still listen to and appreciate your partner. It's called the captain/first mate dynamic for a reason. One is steering the ship and the other is running the systems in the background, solving the problems they can and going to the captain when they can't. Also, why is it only on the husband to be agreeable? Shouldn't it be both people's responsibility to l…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 05:20 AM
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It's still a popular factor in romantic fiction though, which is why I wanted to know if this is something people generally believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 10:28 PM
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I don't do math unless I absolutely have to, so I'm just taking people's word on these statistics. It's still fun to think about though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 08:02 PM
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What are the statistics on aliens, do you know? Out of curiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 06:05 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 02:20 PM
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So your idea of a soul mate is more of a deep, permanant bond, not unadulterated happiness in romance with someone. I could come to accept your idea but I'm not sure that even parental love can be so absolute. I have oodles of younger siblings and I know for a fact there are favorites in the bunch. I also think the most important part of that kind of bond is something you brushed upon: if the two family members want it to. It would have to be completely reciprocal, and insanely pure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 06:12 AM
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I have never heard that perspective on it before, or even thought of that possibility. That is a fascinating flaw in the idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 05:31 AM
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That's a really interesting angle. Isn't the romantic notion of true eternal love with soulmates supposed to transcend physical limitations? And I'm asking this as someone who doesn't believe in them either, I'm just curious about your thoughts on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 05:11 AM
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Once an addict always an addict, and I'm saying that as one myself. You can get clean, you can be a completely different person than you were with your addiction. But you can never change the past, because the past is part of who you are. You always have to be on your guard with a glaring weak point like that, and partners absolutely deserve to know because it affects them and the life they build with you. I have to be upfront about the alcoholism when I date guys, because if they have bartender…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 11:36 PM
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You are deliberately being antagonistic, misrepresenting my points, and putting words in my mouth. 10/10 trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 06:15 PM
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The first link isn't a study. It is an editorial with links to studies. The 18% statistic is him, talking about himself. I didn't bother posting studies because anyone with half a brain can google "do women take less risks than men." It's not even under question. The second link shows the statistics on the majority of fields women build businesses in. None of them are high risk. The third link I believe also said that women-owned businesses earn an average of 27% of the revenue male-owned busine…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 02:44 PM
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Third-wave feminism is largely a pointless movement as far as rights and equality go. So now they're trying to change society so everything is acceptable and if anyone disagrees with them they're automatically evil and oppressive. RPW believes sex is valuable, this is not something I believe different from them. They say men are the gatekeepers of commitment and women are the gatekeepers of sex. They advocate not throwing your vajay around to every Tom, Dick, and Harry, because sex is not to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 05:27 AM
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I think the captain/first mate dynamic is my ideal. I think feminism is damaging to society. I agree that a lot of relationship issues come from self-centeredness. I think sex is deeply intimate and not to be taken lightly. Women are inferior in some areas, not in others. I would not vote for a female president because I don't think that is a role that can be filled by a woman. Like /u/Aerobus said above, you don't want a woman in command of an army. Nothing wrong with women in business, but it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 09:10 PM
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My guess is that you will never understand. I don't care about the misogyny. It is emotionally based, not logically. It is irrelevant to me. I don't care if others tout it, because I don't care what they do. I can agree with RP without being hateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 08:32 PM
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Seeing as how RP is a fragment of the population, the misogyny is generally anger speaking, I disagree with feminism, and my personal environment in regards to RP tenets is only affected by me, yes. Nice loaded question there though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 08:03 PM
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Cranking it up to 11 over here, yes you are. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 07:40 PM
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Emotionally charged diatribes mean little to me, RP or BP. I see the logic in RP beliefs and discard the emotions. I don't hate women, I probably don't care for men that hate women, but I've yet to meet a man who outwardly shows such "toxic beliefs." The angriest men (and people in general) I've met have had reasons behind their anger, and it is a useful self-defense mechanism because of something or someone in their past. It has never been because of me, so there is no reason for me to take it …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 07:37 PM
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Oh no! Good heavens! You mean I've been subscribing to a hateful belief this whole time? How did they hide this from me for so long! How could I ever think there was anything to be learned from this? Is that what you want me to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 06:59 PM
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No. Why, what does it say?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 06:47 PM
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I've never felt hated there. The worst things said about women are by men in the anger phase, beyond that it's just acknowledging that men and women have different natures.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 06:40 PM
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That's your perception of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 06:28 PM
1

TRP and RPW are outright hated as well. This isn't a one-sided issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 06:10 PM
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Yes, it was a bit much. But HHL is just quick to pull out big guns and RP people are already on the defensive on a personal level, because opposition is a sub that only exists to mock us. https://youtu.be/oh4tHpUflDA
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 05:41 PM
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HHL is always extreme. My point was it's very easy to say you were just playing after the fact. Do you see how it could have been interpreted as an attack?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 05:30 PM
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I personally prefer body and facial hair. Not a bear coat, just a nice layer to play with.
/r/RedPillWomen21/03/15 12:21 AM
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If he says he likes it, then stop double guessing him. If you feel insecure start dressing to emphasize your curves so you feel sexy again. But pointing out your flaws will only make him notice them more.
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/15 08:03 PM
1

Aw, shucks. Thanks. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 05:04 PM
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Good heck you're repetitive, you know that? How many times do you need this explained to you? #NotAllMen And what do you have against people being cautious when first meeting and getting to know each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 02:44 PM
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Is that what I said? Strange, I don't remember that. I think I said something along the lines of: I don't care what they think of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 07:58 AM
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I seek out external perspective on my issues. Having someone who doesn't know me or anyone involved in my life answer questions I have gives me more angles to consider. And they aren't judging my life, because I am 99.9% sure I have never met any of them. I listen to their opinions, consider them, and move on. I implement what I like and discard the rest. There's no reason for me to take it personally when they say mean things about women, I just take it as "Don't be that girl." Also, good for y…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 07:45 AM
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Yes, I agree. I don't remember seeing them say that either. The only thing I can recall on the subject is that men should be the emotional rock a woman can rely on. What's wrong with that? Because I don't care what random internet strangers think of me? Because I can recognize hyperbole and generalizations for what they are? TRP says I have inherent value on account of my uterus, I'm okay with that. I'll try not to use my powers for evil in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 07:19 AM
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It's still not very welcoming to differing opinions. TRP and RPW also are not debate subs, they are there to discuss RP issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 04:13 AM
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So, here's the thing. If I find myself disliking someone in person I think of what I heard on a Dennis Prager episode. "You don't know their pain, and you don't know their demons." That has helped me keep everyone on the same level as far as how I think of them. But that is for an individual, not a collective. When you are thinking of a collective, it is much safer to think of everyone like House, M.D. "Everybody lies." That's where AWALT comes in, with the collective. (Resistance is futile.) It…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 04:03 AM
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One could very easily say the same thing about TwoX, or BP. That's why we debate in outside subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 03:18 AM
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Only if he thinks everyone is an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 02:20 AM
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Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 02:19 AM
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http://www.avoiceformen.com/women/on-generalizations-about-women-and-men-yesallwomen/ I'll just leave this here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 01:03 AM
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Not sure what your point is, I was saying that it wasn't a straw man. So, thanks for the compliment I guess? But carousels make me dizzy, no thanks on that. Edit: Looked at the link you posted. I fail to see how AWALT is a bad worldview still. It's a cautionary measure men should take, just like women should be cautious around unfamiliar men because men are generally stronger than women. Not all men will rape, not all women will use men, but as a baseline caution is always a smart choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 11:38 PM
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Cars, doors, measuring cups, computers, notebooks, scissors, sewing machines, refrigerators, microwaves, pretty much everything that you use your hands with was designed using right handed people as a generalization. You have to pay extra to get lefty things. So yeah, generalizations still apply with your example. The fact that left handed people exist isn't enough to warrant additional manufacturing of specialized goods. We're statistically insignificant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 11:34 PM
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Where does RP say that? They say women can be child-like, that women are self-centered, and so on. I don't remember ever seeing them say women are supplicating and needy, and even if they did why would I care? I know I'm not, and generalizations about women don't bother me. Also, why would they care? Men enjoy being needed by their SO more than women enjoy being pedestalized. Also, men and women are different. Men being weak is seen as a bad thing, it's more acceptable for women to be needy and …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 11:22 PM
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http://www.avoiceformen.com/women/on-generalizations-about-women-and-men-yesallwomen/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 11:15 PM
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It honestly is. The thought of spending the rest of my life with someone who is supplicating and needy sounds so stifling and crushing. I wouldn't be free to be my own self with him when I have to be his mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 04:55 PM
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I wouldn't say I was depressed with the beta I was with, that gives him far too much credit. I was definitely resentful though. He told me stuff like "I'm not cutting my hair until you tell me to." and just made it very clear he wanted someone with apron strings to hang on to, not a relationship. He constantly wanted to see me too, the one time he went off on his own for a weekend was amazing because I had enough time to myself to actually want to see him again. I tried encouraging him to make m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 03:29 PM
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I'm not offended. You're just making a false moral equivalency argument, and it gets stale after a while. That and you could probably make a drinking game out of how often u/taiboworks demands a study. Also, your tax example still doesn't work. It's still two separate moral issues. You're operating under the assumption that RPers are "cold hearted bastards." Your only proof to that assertion thus far is LMR, which I already said you probably have a misconception about. Your argument is basically…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 04:54 PM
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Okay, but where this isn't an animal rights debate sub it seems like you're just trying to say that all RPers are evil puppy killers without morals. You're also equating two completely separate moral issues, and saying people who disagree with you on them are immoral. Different people have different values, yo. I am pretty sure, however, that RP tells you to be very clear upfront about your intentions. I am also pretty sure that I personally don't put animal rights on the same level as the rape …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 07:19 AM
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Because you can have morals and still be Red Pill? Because you don't have to dogmatically follow every tenet just because you agree with the theory? Because veganism is not a moral absolute to everyone, and comparing diet with sexual strategy is apples and oranges?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 04:50 AM
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Trusting people too easily. I could have avoided a lot of pain if I hadn't blindly followed some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 09:20 PM
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Cats. I have it on good authority that cats like old women. Source: Living and working with old ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 06:46 AM
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I'll use my mother as an example, because she's been married for 18 years and a SAHM for about 14ish years. She takes care of most of the household issues, cleaning and cooking and such. Dinner is provided by her for my dad almost every night. Exceptions would be when she is sick or when I asked to make dinner back when I lived with them. Basically, she tried to keep his house a haven from the outside world. She is also the caregiver for all the little ones and does the planning and such for gro…
/r/RedPillWomen13/03/15 02:43 AM
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I think if kids weren't in the picture, if she just planned on living off of you when you made enough, that would definitely be using you. She might not have of course, but I do think you made the right choice.
/r/RedPillWomen13/03/15 02:00 AM
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Hehehe, look up to. Sorry, don't mind me, but that was funny. XD
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 01:29 AM
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It sounds like you two have separate goals in life. Why are you with her? Is she important enough to you for you to be willing to compromise on what you want for your future? If you do want to be with her then both of your plans will need to change. But if not, I would say you're not compatible. If these goals are things you're both adamant about you will just end up resenting each other. The possible adjustments sound simple enough to me. Offer to let her be a SAHM until kids are in school. In …
/r/RedPillWomen13/03/15 01:10 AM
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Still not countering anything I said, you're resorting to baiting me. I'm getting bored of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 03:34 AM
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So, instead of countering anything I say you'll just say I'm a SJW. Alrighty then.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 11:35 PM
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Pretty sure everyone in the world has a weakness. Does that mean everyone is weak? No, that's ridiculously untrue. It means everyone has a weakness. And you want women to exploit people for their own ends, which makes me think you're a terrible person. Doesn't mean I won't listen to your opinion and debate you on it. JFK had a weakness for women. FDR had a physical disability, that was a weakness. Obama has a weakness for cigarettes. Regardless of your political standing, to make blanket stateme…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 06:29 PM
2

Can I internet hug you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 04:24 PM
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Is that...is that an Archer reference in your username?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 04:18 PM
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When I say women are underrepresented in positions of power, it's not an opinion. Never said it was. But the number of women in power has doubled over the past 10 years worldwide, and I don't see any reason why it would stop growing. Why do you keep guessing about the things I believe Because I can't imagine why you would think encouraging women to manipulate is a good thing unless you think you're immune to it. What would you, personally, do if you were in a position of power? I would make unil…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 04:03 PM
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Do you not understand that I disagree with you? Can you not read? In all fairness I was countering the whole "women are underrepresented in positions of power" statement you were making, not the OP's position. But since you bring it up, no, I reject your pretty little notion. Women shouldn't learn how to manipulate men better, I'm pretty sure we already have that down and that's honestly a disturbing proposal you're making. You want women to be more manipulative than they already are? But I'm gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 08:31 AM
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So angry. My point is this: there's nothing holding women back. We don't need special treatment to get into positions of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 01:26 AM
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But, but terpers all hate women! There's no way they ever let them say no to anything! I agree with you though. You can't change the rules of the game after you've started playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 11:25 PM
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Ohhhh, so you're saying there should be quotas of gender in jobs we should fill. So if a woman runs against a man politically she should automatically win, regardless of votes or qualifications?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 03:46 PM
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Wait. I'm not equally represented? I thought I could vote for whichever candidate I wanted to politically, did I miss the memo? Am I only allowed to vote for women? Does my vote go into the special pile? Must have missed that in the poll worker training. Whoops.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 08:11 PM
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Nobody's saying negative aggression doesn't exist. All I'm saying is positive aggression exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 07:51 PM
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Why can't positive aggression be a response?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/15 09:42 PM
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You seriously need examples of how context matters with war and violence? Not only is that a whole separate argument, but it doesn't even counter my point that there are positive forms of aggression. Like the French police reaction to their little hostage situation just recently. Aggressive of them to storm that deli, no? Defense against aggression with aggressive tactics is still aggression. Because aggression is a forceful action or procedure especially when intended to dominate or master acco…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/15 07:04 AM
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I'm pointing out positive aggressiveness with both of them. I think aggressiveness is a trait that can be utilized for positive and negative things. I think context matters with war and violence. Is MMA fighting evil? How about police work? Or being a soldier? Do you think we should all be pacifists in the face of people trying to murder us so we don't have to get our hands dirty?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/15 12:33 AM
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You only included part of the definition, and not even the first part. The first definition is "a forceful action or procedure (as an unprovoked attack) especially when attempting to dominate or master. So the other person's lawyer example was still spot on. As for research, how about this study which observed over 8 years and determined that when women act more masculine (one of the traits they used was aggressive) they get more promotions? They also determined that it was a double edged sword,…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 11:47 PM
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I've done it before accidentally, but I don't flirt with the express purpose of getting free stuff. But if a guy wants to give me extra meatballs because I give him an ego boost for a few hours, who am I to judge. Win-win, you know? Edit: 8/10 on the redness. There's only a couple things with it I disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 10:58 PM
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Awesome. So glad we cleared that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 07:58 PM
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Well, amoral sexual strategy doesn't mean they can't teach each other as a community. And amoral doesn't necessarily mean evil, although it doesn't mean good. It means self interest takes priority. It is in the self interest of the sub to improve the quality level of posts and advice given.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 06:39 PM
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Because heaven forbid an amoral community does anything nice ever, or show respect to and help each other. However, if you want a different way to look at it he's trying to up the ante on advice given to improve the quality of the sub. So there is a benefit to not just putting people down and complaining about how "this sub used to be sooo good, but now..." Sounds practical enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 06:31 PM
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That's not what you asked. You asked which leading men do women spend money on to see. Those are the men I pay to go see, as a 21 year old female. Although I didn't mention Bruce Willis, because he's all mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 09:42 PM
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Hugh Laurie is 55, George Clooney is 53, Gerard Butler is 45, Johnny Depp is 51, Tom Cruise is 52, Hugh Jackman is 46, Bradley Cooper is 40. 60 is a bit of a stretch, but not totally laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 08:54 PM
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You have no experience with Russian women. Your opinions on their culture are irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 05:55 PM
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Your ethnocentrism is showing. Also, I think his anecdata trumps yours, on account of him actually knowing Russian women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 05:51 PM
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How much experience with them do you have? Out of curiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 05:34 PM
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How do I handle my cognitive dissonance? Hmmm....probably the same way you do. Get more entrenched in my beliefs. So what precisely do you find contradictory in RP tenets?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 09:28 PM
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That's absolute bull. If you think acknowledging that men are generally stronger than women makes you open minded you are deluded. That's not a viewpoint to change, it's biological fact. You are hostile and not debating at all, you don't even read your "evidence." Did you know that summaries and headlines aren't the whole story? And Debate 101 will tell you that the burden of proof is on the asserter. We counter what you say, not the other way around. You're not here to get your view changed, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 09:21 PM
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Okay, I'll bite. Mama always made dinner and lunch for weekends, but breakfast is not something we really had when I was growing up. She would make a lunch for me for school if I asked. Mama did my laundry until I was about in junior high, which is when I refused to let her do it anymore and made her teach me. She helped with math homework, Da helped with history, I helped them with spelling and grammar. They thought about trying to have me work in high school but it was never serious. I got my …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 08:15 PM
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Oh for the love. No, I didn't. I was drawing a comparison, saying that they are not more obsessed with sex than the rest of the male population, not that all men are obsessed with sex. You're arguing pointless trivialities.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 05:20 PM
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Wanting sex doesn't mean they base their entire self esteem on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 06:02 PM
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Where are you getting that from?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 05:34 PM
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How many of these were instituted by feminism, or even women in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 05:15 PM
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How about I just tell you? I think pregnant women should get footrubs. Oh man, there I go again. Can't hold that dang female supremacy in.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 04:21 PM
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Wow. TIL I'm a feminist. You know, I could just as easily say "All men are sex obsessed and it's in their nature to get whipped. It's biology, yo." Female biological imperative is to mate with a strong male. Male biological imperative is to mate with a fertile woman. Hatred and supposedly universal feelings of superiority are not biological nor are they innate. Do you have any proof for this viewpoint other than "I think so?"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 04:02 PM
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to let it consume your entire existence where an internet forum is your bible is pretty much the definition of obsession. True. But now you're making the assumption the your average RPer is as obsessed in real life as they seem on an anonymous internet forum. Not saying there aren't people obsessed with it, just that the majority of them are probably just normal people. I know the only time I've even hinted at Red Pill in my life is when I was asking my mother if she thought her relationship wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 05:15 AM
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How is that more obsessed than the average man?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 04:31 AM
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Yes, but that doesn't mean they're any more sex obsessed than the rest of the male population, which is the OP's premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 04:09 AM
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Two problems with your assumptions. 1 TRP generally advocates against porn and sex obsession, saying instead to make yourself the kind of person others want to have sex with. "Putting pussy on a pedestal" is the term I believe they use. Might be off on the wording there. 2 You have no quantifiable way to prove all or even most TRPers are narcisstic, since by your own admission it is not an exact science. But I'm sure it's easier to dismiss people's views if they're all just evil and angry narcis…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:27 AM
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What site is that? I'd wear the crap out of it.
/r/RedPillWomen27/02/15 03:21 AM
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AWALT also helps against men getting too attached to one woman because she's perfect in their lovesick eyes, which is a message men sorely need these days. I wish my ex had known it, even though I repeatedly tried to show him. It's basically saying "Expect the worst, and if you get the best you'll be pleasantly surprised."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 01:18 AM
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No, it was tested. It was semen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 01:25 AM
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Are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 05:49 AM
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http://www.adn.com/article/20120624/kleinfeld-most-time-wife-initiates-divorce http://divorcesupport.about.com/b/2012/06/24/why-most-divorces-are-initiated-by-women.html The most cited reasons for divorce are verbal abuse and emotional neglect. It seems far more likely that this means "We yell at each other when we fight" and "He doesn't put my feelings above his" than the possibility that the majority of husbands are actually abusive. As for cheating, while I agree that it's grounds for a divor…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 08:31 PM
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How is that rude? It's the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:08 AM
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Red N/A INTP
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 08:57 AM
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Happiness, life satisfaction, what have you. But that makes more than one sentence now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 12:02 AM
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It works for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 11:38 PM
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I've yet to meet anyone who would try to tell me about how degrading BDSM is in person. It doesn't change the fact that not only is feminism still making women question their sexual inclinations, but also that trying to debate with you is like talking to a brick wall and I have work to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 06:18 PM
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http://vagendamagazine.com/2014/06/does-liking-bdsm-make-me-a-bad-feminist/ https://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_posts/3426098-a-feminist-submissive A simple Google search says that women do indeed think feminism says they shouldn't be sexually submissive, so they have to find a way to reconcile it. #thestruggleisreal
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 05:23 PM
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Their feminism beliefs that they need to reconcile isn't about feminism? Okay then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 03:48 PM
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Yeah, but then he deleted his profile. That's the second time it's happened to me. :( Ah well, it's all good.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 05:49 AM
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https://liberationcollective.wordpress.com/2013/01/27/bdsm-is-violence-against-women/ https://oliveseraphim.wordpress.com/2013/04/06/my-problem-with-kinkbdsm/ http://liberalfeministtropes.blogspot.com/2014/03/why-im-against-bdsm-radical-feminist.html http://www.amazon.com/Against-Sadomasochism-Radical-Feminist-Analysis/dp/0960362835 Most things you'll find on it these days is women asking how to reconcile their beliefs with their sexual desires. This is because feminism and sexual submission can…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 05:38 AM
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Yes. We all know that. But a lot of women still fantasize about being dominated by a strong man, while feminism still tells them that they shouldn't allow themselves to be dominated by strong men. Do you understand what I'm saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 05:11 AM
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I already told you. In my comment above.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 04:51 AM
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There's still a little more to it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 04:42 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 04:29 AM
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No. I've just never heard anyone saying it's a healthy relationship, so it's kind of a moot point that doesn't contribute much. And sexual submission, especially in BDSM, is absolutely something feminists struggle with, because a lot of women want it but get confused because feminism tells them they don't need it. So saying that the only reason people don't like it is because of a abusive relationship that everyone recognizes is just not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 04:18 AM
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So glad we agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 03:39 AM
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Nope, that's the best part, amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 03:08 AM
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Must be. So are you looking at past research and seeing how it can be done differently? While implementing the material at hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 12:50 AM
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An even better form of research would be reading the source material and implementing it. If it doesn't work for you, good. Come here and debate it. But if all you do is try and make RPers sound like evil scary troglodytes that you're so brave to reply to then it's kind of hard to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 12:45 AM
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No, he said "too scared to go over to RP to do research." Nothing about the people. You're taking that comment very personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 12:37 AM
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The above poster didn't say BPers are afraid of RPers as people, so I don't understand what you're trying to prove.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 12:03 AM
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dear diary, [me ad infinitum] Ad nauseam, from what I've heard. XD I actually haven't read 50SoG, but I did read Twilight when I was in junior high, about 7 or 8 years ago. Back then I thought it was great, but then I read romances that were much better so...yeah. That cured me right quick. And there are definitely better kinky eroticas than 50 Shades, from the quotes I've read.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 05:49 AM
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Well, what you say is that the only unrealistic thing about it is the dude's level of success at his age. The archetypes and behaviors I agree with you on, but it is hardly a tell-all diary. That's my point I guess, is that it's closer to a fairy tale than a real woman's diary.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 05:01 AM
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Yeah, I'm sure there are those people somewhere in the world. But negotiating the terms beforehand is absolutely necessary, and it doesn't have to kill the danger. That'd be like skydiving without a parachute. You can get the thrill with the possibility that something could go terribly wrong, but you trust your parachute. In the same sense, you go over boundaries and limits with your "playmate," for lack of a better word, and you still have the chance that they could completely ignore your safew…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 04:54 AM
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Yeah, sure. That doesn't make it more realistic in the sense of "this could happen in real life" though, just in the sense of realizing women's fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 04:41 AM
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It's as realistic as Twilight. Which is not at all. Even the BDSM community largely condemns it for being about an abusive relationship instead of one based on trust and respect. You know, like a realistic BDSM relationship. The reason it's so popular is because it's repeating tales we've heard our whole lives, Cinderella and Beauty and the Beast, and modernizing it with "empowering sexuality." Otherwise known as being a doormat for a hawt guy who wants to sex you. It is a fantasy calculated to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 01:00 AM
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I would take guy #1 but with dependable instead of entitled. All the rest I can take.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 12:22 AM
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I think you should realize that people have different viewpoints and you won't change anyone's mind by saying that you think they need to believe this or that, especially on something as dogmatic as feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 05:27 AM
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Because if modern feminism is incongruent with your beliefs it is actually not conducive to happiness. Surprise surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 04:12 AM
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Should be feminists, huh? Why should I be? Who decided this? You? Because I don't care what you think I should or shouldn't be, and I doubt any other RPW do either. I personally looked at the same situation as you did and came to a different conclusion than you. I know, crazy right? Women are already treated equally, there's no cabal of men cackling as they secretly keep women down. If the worst thing you can think of is that sexism exists in the US then maybe you should turn your focus elsewher…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 02:46 AM
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Don't get heify with me. You're the one misrepresenting yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 02:00 AM
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Then why is your flair red?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 01:49 AM
1

Then we'll have to agree to disagree on which freedoms matter, because I don't think that is something that needs to be provided by government.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 04:56 PM
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All the things you described that are actual freedoms we have. As for the free services, those aren't rights. We aren't being kept down just because we don't have free daycare. That's a ridiculous notion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 03:40 PM
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Where in the world are women more free than in America?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 02:12 AM
2

Democrat extremists usually don't kill people though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 12:11 AM
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I am on the sub, I only comment very occasionally. And every time I try the channel it says it's not working. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 05:45 AM
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I'm a firm believer in building bridges.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 04:35 AM
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No way! I do the exact same thing with TBP! Sisters!!!! hug
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 09:42 PM
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Oh man. Oh no. My whole world view just changed. The wool has been lifted from my eyes. However will I cope with myself after that staggering and piercing argument? Oh wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 09:19 PM
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How original.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 08:57 PM
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Feminism says equality means the two genders need to do the exact same things, RP says gender roles are different because men and women are different. Feminism says women will be happy as a ball-busting career woman, RP says maybe, but she'll probably be happiest with a strong willed man she respects and defers to. Feminism says if a man does anything sexual towards you he's a potential rapist. RP says men should pursue, and you should be the kind of woman you want a high value man to pursue. Fe…
/r/RedPillWomen01/02/15 01:24 AM
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Growing up I thought RP was normal. Mama stayed home and kept house and raised us kids, Dad worked and got dinner from her when he got home. They never fought, because when Dad put his foot down about something Mama went along with it, but she managed most of the household affairs. My neighbors were like this as well as far as I know, probably because of our religion. It wasn't until I reached junior high that I truly realized that people lived completely differently. The clincher for me though,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 04:48 AM
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That's not lowering your standards, that's making your standards more realistic.
/r/RedPillWomen27/01/15 03:24 AM
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I think this is why the whole notion of "soulmates" is so damaging. Women are taught that marriage is supposed to be with the nonexistent guy who "completes you." That will never happen, and you will end up resenting your spouse for not being magical. So he's not Prince Charming, get over it. You're not Snow White.
/r/RedPillWomen26/01/15 09:39 PM
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I hate to say this because I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt, but from what you're saying he sounds toxic and not like a good captain. I would suggest moving on.
/r/RedPillWomen18/01/15 04:14 AM
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I love this explanation, and it's my ideal relationship. I have never needed or wanted a lead role, and my goal is to become my SO's support character, with him being the tank and me the glass cannon.
/r/RedPillWomen12/01/15 08:30 AM
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I had to look it up to remember the particulars. Apparently she wore an Oscar de la Renta dress and they said something along the lines of "We really don't know how she got ahold of it." Because heaven forbid she actually, you know, buy it. That's what started it. This occurred around the same time that the fashion industry was heavily campaigning for Obama at the same time.
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/15 05:19 PM
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Part of the reason these women are difficult to find I think is because they aren't in the spotlight. They do their thing behind the scenes. But as soon as I read your title I thought of Ann Romney. Politics and religion aside, she doesn't detract from her husband, she is absolutely his support character. She was really snubbed too, I felt so bad for her when some fashion designers said they refused to dress her. But she handled it like a lady and always seemed to look good. I know I certainly a…
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/15 07:25 AM
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For me it's less about the number and more about his attitude towards relationships. If he shows no interest in settling down and sees women as just playthings then I'm not going to hang around. I'm not going to push for something he's not willing or ready for, so having a reputation will definitely impact how I interact with him. If he shows interest in something long term it would be taken with a grain of salt. It won't disqualify him outright, but I will be more cautious around him.
/r/RedPillWomen30/11/14 11:13 PM
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I agree, it's why I started listening to him to begin with. :)
/r/RedPillWomen27/11/14 03:11 AM
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