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Sometimes confident people do whatever they want whenever they want to but that's not what confidence means. Think of any skill someone who does it well isnt doing stuff at random but they are confident in their abilities. Social skills are a skill. If you have confidence but no social awareness yeah you will end up looking silly. You need both confidence and some social skills
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:48 PM
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it's not "morally wrong". You can choose to not date someone for any arbitrary reason it is entirely a subject preference. If someone doesn't want to date you, that's it they dont owe you anything. It's not discrimination. Discrimination is depriving someone of something they should be entitled to. You are not entitled to date someone who doesn't want you. It's not even bigotry. Bigotry is having a negative and irrational belief about some group of people. Sometimes dating preferences are caused…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 11:33 AM
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I dont care about your small dick. How many times are we gonna have the insane argument of taking some woman's preference as "woman kinds" preference. There are literally 4 billion women on this planet. What do you think is more likely that there's a mass conspiracy to lie to you or that such a large number of people have a range of opinions. The reality: some women have told you they care, some have said they dont care. And you've somehow magic'd that into all women care and the ones who say th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:20 AM
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I literally just gave an example, touching. bare in mind less women view porn to begin with so we're talking about the subset that do. and let me frame it a different way, what is actually fundamentally different about violent male dom porn and regular porn? regular porn for women can be an incoherent porn where it's women worshiping these guys and the women watching the porn don't have any desire to do that. Regular porn is not some authentic expression of real desire, it's basically the same a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:21 PM
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it doesn't work like that. It's not because it's niche that some women might like it, it is more that there are things that are lacking in regular porn that women want, or things regular porn does that specifically puts a lot of women off. As an example of something women. The article lists spanking and hair pulling as a type of "violent" sex. This is a type of touching, same with lesbian porn being more about touching. vs regular porn that is more about bj and piv sex. and it's not that women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:01 PM
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Well another study I read on this subreddit says a lot of straight women are watching lesbian. and women are also just consuming less porn overall. I think the common denominator here is that women are less interested in the most standard porn, which makes sense because it wasn't made for us. Porn usually has no story, and when it does have a story it's about how an attractive women is really enthusiastic for some random dude just for exciting. and standard porn is usually more focused on bj and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:41 PM
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disagree strongly I wish more people put their preferences on their profiles saves time for everyone. if I see I don't meet someone's preferences I don't care it just makes things easier for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 03:56 PM
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There are 7 billion people in the world and half of them are women, what even counts as mainstream advice, everything that isnt the red pill? You choose the content you seek out or an algorithm does. It's just weird you are stereotyping what the mainstream advice is based on some random instagrams you watched. Instagram is not a serious educational platform idk who the f is going on Instagram or tiktok or facebook to learn. These are time wasting entertainment websites
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 11:43 AM
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I mean you chose to highlight stuff that isnt really even advice. There is no single mainstream advice because there's no magic solution. But if you go to say the dating sub or just read here you'll find plenty of actual advice. Now in cases like OP because their posts are unattractive and make a really bad impression if you make posts like that people will just assume that is the sole reason you are single, or they will just write you off as a lost cause. So you wont get good advice from it. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 10:23 AM
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I brought it up for your sake, without it you post doesnt even make sense because nobody is even arguing men shouldn't date women. the op is even worse now that your trying to argue against something nobody is saying
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 06:42 PM
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if you are not talking about cold approaching then I have no idea what you are even talking about because nobody is arguing men shouldn't try to date women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 05:01 PM
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you seem to be conflating a woman telling men not to do something with shaming. You are also conflating cold approaching with any male attention, as if going up to random women on the street is somehow the only way to get a date. Some women don't wanna be approached by random men on the street period and with limited interaction there is not a lot of ways to know what a random guys intentions are or what kind of person he is. A guy who is not a creep approaching women on the street does literall…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 03:51 PM
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I dont believe you can have a serious impact on how violent men irl by self censoring because there are far too many people in the world, as an example it's already a small minority of women who are going on Instagram to make fun of mens height or dick size but those women will be posted over and over again on all the incel and manophere groups giving the impression it's how the world actually is. Plus for the people actually deranged enough to do violent acts they ussually have a framework wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 01:26 PM
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those often arent the same women, and when they are it's obviously because you are safe online as opposed to in person. To be frank I'm not gonna spend my time online placating fragile dudes ego and giving them deferential treatment just because they are a man and men are more likely to be violent. There is no way we can convince everyone in the world to coddle potentially violent incels on the internet its just not viable. You'd have to make laws to enforce it and make he internet a safe space …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:59 PM
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I think the term looksmatch is very misleading because the things that make women and men attractive srent the same and you cant do a one for one. and if there is a "looksmatch" it would just be whatever the outcome is. even that is a little misleading though because how much other factors that arent looks play into it we dont know. all we can really say is the dating market will reach an equilibrium where how attractive you are (overall so includes non looks) is how well your attracting people …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:59 PM
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looksmatch is made up, how attractive you are is simply how attractive people think you are. if women arent attracted enough to date a guy, he's not their "looksmatch". people can be upset they arent attractive enough to date who they want, but let's not pretend there is some unfairness here
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:46 PM
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it wouldn't, date whoever you want to date. You have no obligation to date anyone your not attracted to. Just don't be rude to people you are not attracted to or force your preferences on other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:47 PM
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misleading people isn't treating them as equals. you also haven't answered the question, I don't know why you are being so vague about it, makes me more curious because now I'm expecting more redflags. also, what happens if a woman is inauthentic and goes in expecting a free meal, but agrees to pay since she already went down there and is thinking it's just a one off. surely you'd filter out even more inauthentic women and faster by telling them upfront before even going on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:32 AM
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you are being misleading for ??? reasons, if you don't want to date these women, why would you not just be upfront with your expectations? Why would you waste both your times? and could you answer my other question, what do you actually tell these women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:15 AM
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I actually just wanted to know if you let women know about the reason's you don't pay. but based on this, are you also saying you don't tell women beforehand, you just spring it on them as a surprise when they get to the date?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:07 AM
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How do you approach these women to let them know you won't pay? How do you talk to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 10:53 AM
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I think the best way to weed out inauthentic people is to talk to them and get to know them, preferably before you even go on a first date. while sure OP's method will weed out some inauthentic women, what woman wants to have a serious relationship with someone with OP's baggage and paranoia about women? In OP's case it becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy because he is specifically doesn't want to pay because of his views about women, it tells women something about him which is obviously a legiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 10:44 AM
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I think the problem here is you are experiencing the world from some niche incel part of the internet that's completed isolated from the average person lives and how the world actually works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 04:07 AM
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I'm autistic. I think this is based on a false premise. And the reality of being autistic and a woman is a lot more complicated. Firstly yes, men are expected to ask women out, but there's a lot of steps between the first time you talk to someone and having a relationship. An autistic women can put off showing her personality but you can't avoid it. If you want to have an actual human connection with someone you have to show them who you really are. it's true shyness and a lack of proactiveness …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:41 PM
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Do people really not know what entitlement means? I see this type of post all the time... People seem to have this stereotype of this person with really high standards who society judges as unworthy of their standards and seem to think that is entitlement. But there is no objective worth of a person or their efforts. I feel like everyone not just OP needs to hear this, people are actually allowed to set whatever standards they want, someone who doesn't find you attractive or thinks you don't mee…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 02:14 AM
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I agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 08:01 AM
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it makes the person doing harassment a scumbag and it should be illegal. I hope I don't have to go into the reasons why coercing your employees to sleep with you is bad, it didn't suddenly become someone wrote a book on it. I don't see it changing anything. I don't see "it's not just men, occasionally you'll be harassed by a woman in power instead" as being a good reason to stop talking about meToo.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 07:32 AM
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people mostly do activism in their own country where you can have the most impact and is the place that most impacts you. What we're really talking about is media and posts online; most people in the west speaks english and consume american media. And for every political issue america and then europe get more coverage other countries only really get coverage when there is something exceptional going on. When something new happens like the taliban take over there are news stories and people comme…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 05:15 AM
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half agree. if a guy comes across as really desperate or pushy or needy it can be off putting. if a guy seems indifferent though i am going to pass I'm only going to be into someone who's into me. there's a nice middle ground where things feel natural and they just flow well, which I think you just get better at with experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:29 PM
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counter point lying is a big ick. and if you keep lying it'll help give you dodgy vibes. idk who the F is laughing at you for being a teacher that isn't even a traditionally women's job anymore. I guess maybe some shallow people might laugh at the name "nurse" but is this really who you want to be dating? For the sake of attracting shallow women who are judging you for what you do, you are giving up long term dating prospects with any women who wouldn't judge you, but will be pissed at you for l…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:12 PM
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not sure where you are getting these numbers. it seems like most of them you made up. for example [women] "25% are interested in men but only looking for casual sex/FWB, and instead rely on their female friends for intimacy/companionship.." [men] "20% are interested in women but only looking for casual sex/FWB." you really think there are more women than men just looking for hookups *thinking emoji*
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:19 PM
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i am somewhere inbetween the 2 extremes of meaningless positivity and brutal honesty. ill make the case though there is litterally no benefit to shitting on people for their appearance, how do those comments help them in any way. Most of the time these are things they cant change and they aren't going to change based on your comments. Your just contributing to screwing with that person's mental health. Seriously don't remind people they look like shit. Another thing is people have a range of opi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:20 PM
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there is no such thing as a "female counterpart" the things that on average are attractive(and when I say attractive I mean all apsects including personality) in each gender aren't the same and the way men and women look average aren't the same. another way of understanding how this doesn't make sense is that attractiveness is how good you are at attracting people, there's no objective measure. Pointing at someone and saying you are just as attractive as them and at the same time they are consta…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:13 AM
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Lets first acknowledge that you did NOT choose option number 2, which means you chose option 1- low value by default. unhinged nonsense based on nothing. "you didn't choose to be one of the stereotypes from my deluded scenario, therefore you're the stereotype I think is worse, low value woman!" lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 01:59 AM
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you think being a successful career woman selfish? Do you think the same way about men who dedicate themselves to their careers rather than their family? Also why are you bringing up weird hyper like home schooling, it's like roughly 6% of children in US are homeschooled and this seems to be a USA phenomenon, it's far lower elsewhere. I don't agree that these women are opposites, either, both of them seem to care a great deal about appealing to men, one going as far to get plastic surgery. They …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:28 AM
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Ignore ignore ignore
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:46 PM
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It could be either. if someone doesn't care yeah they can move on quickly. if someone cares too much, they might look for someone quickly to help fill the void and take their mind off of you. I know this isn't a very exciting answer and people like certainty but you won't be able to figure out how much someone cares about a relationship based on how quickly they move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 01:03 AM
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generally agree but it depends on the context and how you do it. If you do it as a complaint especially near the beginning, around people you want to date, yes that's a really bad idea. People don't want negativity in dates, and coming across as insecure is going to screw you. If you make a joke about it, it really depends, it can have the opposite effect and show you are confident and self-assured and if you're funny even better. It is possible you could mess up the joke though and there's a mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:04 AM
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• If a woman said I only dress good for myself, and 3 other women made a comment disagreeing with her indirectly saying “well I dress good because [XYZ]” there won’t be any push back on their opinions until a man or a pick me woman says “the truth is y’all dress good/ revealing for validation or for men” even though those women indirectly disagreed with the first woman they will all become a hive mind just to defend an opinion because of their image or the sake of sister hood the women in this e…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:39 PM
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So the OP doesn't match lived experience, it's not some crazy feat to meet a muscular liberal guy, and most conservatives aren't muscular, just like most men in general. Statistically most conservative men are old and overweight like trump, and JD vance looks and comes across like the stereotypical soyboy. Masculinity is more vague, you seem to think women are dumb for not liking guys like you because you think you are better than liberal guys but, just reading your post, you personally come acr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:00 PM
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I litterally have blue pill in my flair what did you expect lol. ans is implying I don't believe in whatever covid conspiracy you do meant to be another gotcha?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:38 AM
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there are guys whose personalities so off putting it is going to be a no, no matter what they look like to most women. can you see that a guy who is simultaneously ignorant, insecure, whiny, misogynistic, quick to anger would put women off and that it's not that guy's looks that makes him unsuccessful? and there are guys who are stereoptyicslly not attractive who are successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:26 AM
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women arent going to be lining up for either guy just based on penis size. you realize attraction includes personality right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:05 AM
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Do some women go crazy over dick size? sure, but they don't have nothing on men, and a lot of women don't care is your second point meant to be a gotcha? yes obviously women aren't entitled to a man either, nobody is entitled to anyone. it wouldn't make any sense for someone who isn't attracted to you to somehow be obligated to date you. Your not being knocked down for wanting to be desired, I'm pointing out the fact that you aren't entitled to it so there's no reason to lie and justify it in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 10:51 AM
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"Porn isn't much different than real life" Don't think you can be much more wrong than this. And men are more obsessed with penis size than women and doesn't even seem to be close. There isn't any need to lie about preference to "divert blame" because that doesn't even make sense, what does it mean to blame someone for a preference, you are not owed people being attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 10:32 AM
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What was the point of asking the question if you were going to answer it for us? The title and the scenario you made up are asking 2 different questions. Yes obviously in your made up scenario it seems better If you want to go to asia to date nobody here is stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 03:15 PM
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I am autistic myself with my own niche hobbies and interests, the biggest thing for me would be if the guy shares a lot of the same interests as me and we can enjoy them together. I think more generally some topics are going to be more interesting to more people but I think how you present it is going to be more important than having a lot of interests. If you end up in a 1 sided rant thats not good. If you can explain it in an interesting way that's understandable is more likely to engage peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 01:58 AM
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People give advice to someone who complains because they assume he's looking for a solution to his problem. Ugly 40 year old single mothers with nothing to offer aren't all dating these wonderful great guys. The traits men are attracted to aren't the same as women, yes you're right a lot of men don't care if a women is shy, a lot of women don't care if a man has hairy legs. Men aren't doing anything out of generosity in dating lol, they aren't going for women they don't like out of sympathy that…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 10:19 AM
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to me the idea that a man would be like "I'm gonna delay doing the thing you asked of me to project how masculine I am" just seems annoying, that's a hard no from me. Different women want different things, you can't please everyone, I really don't think this one is something you should be worrying about, I would instead suggest thinking about what kind of woman you want to be attracting, who is most compatible with you and what you want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:32 PM
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"I would say that there is room for women to get more confident and learn social skills so that they can ALSO put shyer guys minds more at ease." my own experience is because I am autistic and shy and come across non-threatening it makes those shyer guys more confident. I think just being friendly and understanding is what probably actually works. and if women aren't into these guys they won't be learning new skills to appeal to them, this would only make sense if the woman wanted shy guys. For …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:26 PM
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"women" aren't saying this, no serious person is looking at the actions of someone and then blaming someone completely different. Is it possible some small minority of women say this? sure but we're half the planet, this post is just silly
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:10 PM
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some women are criminals themselves or grew up around criminals, so there will be a market for these types of people to find each other. career criminals hang around in circles with other criminals they don't have a problem with other career criminals. socially awkward people have trouble interacting everyone including other socially awkward people, it is litterally just a disadvantage. Now there's nuance to it, autistic people have an easier time relating to autistic people, I'm autistic and I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:59 PM
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correlation =/= causation. A lot of things have change significantly in society in the past few decades, we can't pick out any 1 thing and say therefore this must be a cause. Violent crime has significantly decreased since the 90's, would we say hookup culture is making people less violent as well? Intuitively I'd say spending all their time online is a much bigger cause of mental health issues than hookup culture, especially to people who aren't involved in it. The upsides of hookup culture is …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:43 PM
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since you're claiming gamergate is mostly women faking harassment I can't trust any of the other claims you made in your post and will have to end the discussion there as I won't have the time to fact check everything you say. I think the path you've gone down is not only delusional but will keep you trapped in a negative cycle and make you further isolated from real people and the real world. I would like to help but I don't have infinite time and have my own stuff to deal with, I do wish you t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:57 PM
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why are you asking us? if you don't like me, bye I don't care, the people you could be asking are the incels complaining about no gf, supposedly you've solved all their problems for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 12:06 AM
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disagree, you only give 5 examples, example 1, a metoo style event, there are so many examples similar to this that aren't nerdy men that I don't think we should take 1 scenario as this big thing we can make a trend out of. example 2 just suggests women don't like nerdy men and that it supposedly hurts women in science programs. it doesn't say anything about nerdy men driving feminism. example 3: women have been calling out the objectification of women as sex objects in magazines and tv for deca…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:46 PM
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there is no "blame", women have no need to justify not dating you in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:58 PM
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I've never seen this as a solution to a guy just asking for advice neutrally, I agree it's not good advice but it's not meant to be I've only seen it in response to men going on about how great men are and how terrible women are, or men who talk about as if women have wronged them by not dating them, it's not intended as genuine advice it's to make them stop and think or as a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:48 PM
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even 'simps' are just horny or lonely they aren't thinking "oh I hate this so much but I better keep pursuing women because its what women deserve"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:33 PM
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there is no such thing as deserve in dating. men arent thinking "women are queens I better start asking them out because they deserve my love and attention", they do it because they think what they can get out of it is worth the effort they put in. and the same for women. and regarding the title. if women were actually getting much more out of dating then they would pursue men more, less women would choose to be single and it would balance out. think about it, why arent women more desperate to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:43 PM
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it comes across as sexist to me, or at least reinforcing harmful stereotypes on men, as if you have to be a certain kind of man to be a real man. I don't like the implications of the term
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:32 PM
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it's an interesting antedate, but you can't just say "this is something you need to succeed working at a bank and therefore you need to do the same to succeed at dating" that doesn't follow at all. The types of relationships you have to make at work aren't the same intimate romantic relationships. women want to have a good time on dates and sometimes they are specifically looking out for men who are being fake and distrustful of them and can come across like you have bad intentions whereas it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:14 PM
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Then I think the main problem with your logic is what you are leaving out. Yes there is a minimum physical attraction requirement, but there is also a minimum social skills requirement and having more of both is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:57 AM
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I do not. point 2 says it's whole reliant on physical attractiveness. That would only be the case for some men who are too physically unattractive. There is a middle ground of men who are somewhat attractive but become attractive enough though other things like social skills. And as I said before regardless of how attractive a man is they can mess up their social skills enough to kill all attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:50 AM
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not if they too unattractive physically, then yeah there is nothing they can do, although they could make themselves more attractive it wouldn't be enough. but in practice these things are much more fluid, it's not like I have a mental line in my head and say "okay he's just below the threshold", there are varying degrees of attractiveness that are effected by things like social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:42 AM
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What do you mean by threshold? Like there will be some people you find so physically unattractive you won't date them. But there will lots of people who are I guess attractive enough but your perception of them as a person will change how attractive you find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:36 AM
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P2: is definitely wrong, any man regardless of how physically attractive can say things so off putting it will kill any attraction with me and I assume this is the case with most women. And on the other hand romance and flirty are skills if you are really good at them it can be really hot. Your general argument can be boiled down to romantic and sexual attraction require a minimum physical attractiveness, but that doesn't say anything about how important social skills are. Both can be important …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:23 AM
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I don't think the people up in arms about this read the article. going into it I assumed that SA doesn't happen on airplanes, but the article gives statistics on it. the tldr is while it's not that common it does happen, is on the rise and government agencies including the FBI are warning about it and taking it seriously. And much more common than SA is people being creeps. I don't get what the actual objection to this would be, how would this be making anyone's lives worse? and it is already th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:03 AM
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I'm sure you've posted about this issue, so can you link the post where women supposedly say this? yes some women will say they wont date a virgin not all women that's not a catch 22.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:40 AM
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Where have you seen it? got a link? and so I'm getting this straight, because you saw this extreme minority opinion a few times your making that into this massive issue that supposedly effects lots of people? and as to whether they'd date them, some women say they would and some say they wouldn't, I don't get what your point even is here? your op is present yourself as a victim, but women's crime here is having preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:28 AM
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I've literally never heard anyone say it's wrong for inexperienced men to go after any women, and I've seen posts like "would you date a virgin man" on dating and women subs all the time and never does anyone say it's wrong for them to be trying. Just from reading your post, your problem doesn't seem to be that you come across as too nice and that's why women aren't dating you, you come across as depressed and mentally unwell and yes those are big things that will turn people away.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:40 AM
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I agree that's better than off the street but like you said in the OP less places to meet people and really get to know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:21 AM
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Personally I'm not interested in dating some random guy off the street and I don't care that men aren't randomly approaching off the street. For me my issues are the opposite of what you described, I like dating apps in theory, but in practice there's usually not enough information for me to make a decision and I don't want to be spending a lot of time talking to people it isn't going to work with or having negative experiences that put me off dating. that's just me and I'm certainly not an aver…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:08 AM
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I think the OP is hyper-specific about the types of traditional roles, what if the man is the provider and the woman is the housekeep etc. And I think it's an awkward one to be the standard because it's not that much in women's control, in the case where the traditional woman finds the traditional man, has sex only after marriage as is tradition, well what happens if that man is abusive or he leaves her, or he dies. Or what happens if she does stay with a man who she stops caring about under the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:15 AM
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tradition is just social norms that have been around long enough, anything can be a tradition and there's not set length for how old something has to be to be a tradition. In 20 years time what's considered modern today could be considered tradition. Heck it's not even agreed upon what current traditions are still in vogue. it's pretty easy to argue the idea of virginity is outdated and already out of style, that it's no longer a social norm and therefore not a valid modern tradition but somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:42 AM
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it's not about health though, you said you don't find them attractive, that's your actual reason. If your concern was it's bad for their health you wouldn't say "her double chin blocks the attractive neck she used to have. She farts more." this is just demeaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:23 AM
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it's not lying it's about not unnecessarily being an ass. Can you not see the difference between saying "I don't find overweight women attractive" and "She can’t move the same way, she breathes heavy, she can’t go on walks, she doesn’t want to go a lot of places, her double chin blocks the attractive neck she used to have. She farts more." you are not required to justify the why, there is no objective attractive, it's your subjective opinion that you are allowed to have. And by trying to justify…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:50 AM
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Who is this everyone? If your partner gaining weight is a dealbreaker for you you are allowed to tell them or walk away, just don't be an A hole about it. Like the way you just went into detail about it, saying all the ways being overweight is horrible and disguising is disrespectful especially to the women you are going out with and makes you come across like an ass. If you present it like you are degrading your partner people aren't going react positively about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:44 AM
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how many women have you asked to see your profile and have ghosted you? has anyone seen it and actually given advice? tbh unless you show people your profile everyone here can only guess what happened, for all we know there could be all kinds of crazy stuff on it. Or it could be the opposite if people are asking to see your profile because they see your posts on forums like this, they could be expecting crazy that's entertaining and then it just turns out to be boring and they lose interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:20 AM
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How are you defining fairness? How does it make sense to say people's subjective preferences are unfair? You say it's unbalanced but in what sense? People are choosing to be with the people they are attracted to by mutual agreement. as for the appeal to nature, since when is nature fair? is it unfair that in a modern society things like physical strength are less valued now than things like mathematics?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:16 AM
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Even if we accept your premise that men are all desperate for relationships and women are you're still wrong. firstly that's not what fairness/equality means. if you are arguing women are better off not dating, that doesn't imply unfairness that just implies men get more out of dating than women. when it comes to equality, if you are arguing women are more desirable, even if we accept this premise it wouldn't be different than any other genetic feature that makes people more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:05 PM
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Do you mean people are offering online or in person? What is the context here, what are you saying to these women in the first place to get them to give you advice on your dating profile? I think you're taking a super niche issue and making it a gender thing. The only thing I can think of is there's something really off putting on your dating profile that makes them not want to talk to you or they don't want to be the one to tell you. without seeing the profile in question there's no way to know…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:52 PM
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I enjoy video games and couldn't believe it when I saw that one image with video games as a hobby apparently having a 90% unattractive rating. I've read a contrasting study that says 72% of women play video games. I don't think they are anywhere near as hated and this isn't a universal thing at all. I did have 1 person tell me that "video games as a hobby is a non-answer" and that's why it'd be unattractive, it's not that they are playing video games just that it implies they aren't doing anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:34 AM
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I love it and don't see it as feminine, I think it would be very strange if affection was segregated to being just something women do. Not being able to be affectionate with your loved ones comes across as a redflag to me that the person can't handle their emotions well. I'm sure there are some women who feel the opposite but you can't please everyone. And I don't know what stage of the relationship you're in, if you come across too strong too early I think the issue is it might put pressure on …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:49 PM
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the framing of reward and punishment is just dumb and creates unhelpful mindset. I think it will take you down a rabbit hole that's not helpful. you're reading things people aren't actually saying, when people say women don't like fake nice guys or misogynists it because those traits are unattractive. And even for the people who want to frame it in a weird punishment way. it's not really a contradiction, it's just saying that particular negative traits e.g. incel behavior are both unattractive a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 04:20 AM
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women do approach just not anywhere near as much as men. a lot of women which is basically approaching but in a more subtle way. I rarely ask men out but it has nothing to do with sexism, never have I thought "oh I wanna ask this guy out but I better not, that's a man's job". the reasons are going to vary from person to person. but for me I rarely approach because I would only want to be with someone who is into me, not someone who is meh about it. There is little reason for me to approach since…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:54 PM
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I don't but some men say and do a lot worse under the impression somehow they can change the woman's mind
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:22 AM
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I mean that's going to encourage rapey controlling behaviour, do you want a guy who wont respect your decisions? Even if this is true and it is a good way to get rid or men who don't care, once you do this its going to damage the relationship and could cause insecurity and other issues in the guy down the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:59 AM
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I don't think this reflects real life, it's usually the older man chasing the younger woman. If someone is desperate for money and doesn't have a lot of relationship or life experience that creates a power and information imbalance. When you first start having relationships you don't know as much and what to look out for.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:05 AM
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this is a different argument to the point I'm addressing, I don't know the specifics of these cases so maybe you're right in these specific cases, I don't even know exactly how young the women are in this case. The point I was making is whether manipulation is involved or not, some things are going to be more attractive. my own personal views on these things is that it's not as simple as it's always manipulative or that once someone turns 18 everything is magically okay, the circumstances are go…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:38 AM
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that logic doesn't follow at all. assuming you believe in age of consent laws at all you understand that someone could be underage and attracted to an older person and still be a victim right? The manipulation is not restricted to the manipulating them into being attracted to them. And it also doesn't follow that because someone can be more easily manipulated that therefore anyone could manipulate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:09 AM
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you asked why older male celebrities in particular are successful, regardless of whether you are a creep or not some things are more likely to make you successful. I don't know enough about the cases to know if these guys are doing anything wrong or not. edit: I think your op might be arguing against a strawman. even if you take the cases where older person is being manipulative and abusive, I don't think anyone is seriously arguing that horrible manipulative abusive people can't have any attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:54 AM
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celebrities have a massive advantage on everything. just being a celebrity will make you seem more attractive. plus they are rich and often dedicated and talented at their craft and often very charismatic. plus attraction isn't a linear hierarchy, there's variation in what people like; a famous person has their face seen by millions of people they only need one attractive person to have a preference for them and reach out. You don't even need to bring age into it, unconventional young celebritie…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:33 AM
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the reason why people suggest to self improve is that it works for some people, and it's probably better to focus on how people who will have happy relationships rather then making the people who won't feel better about it. For me that's more of a priority. and for a lot of people they probably believe that if you just do xyz you will succeed. It's also true that people who believe they will succeed have a far better chance of success, people who get into negativity spirals where they think it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:22 AM
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the only one of these I've seen is american pie and in that it's very much a male fantasy. the geeky girl Michelle suddenly wants to have sex with the character jim after he failed to get with the conventionally attractive girl, this happens near the end of the movie as his happy ending. It's worth noting the character is both very good at sex and much more conventionally attractive then the protagonist by most people's standards. I;m not sure how much the comparison with gendered flip red pill …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:10 AM
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the title is different from the body so its unclear what op ,means, I dont even know if op cares or it's just a thin excuse to make a women hate post. I cant take the delusional woman hate or comments like only 1% of the population should even feel neutral about themselves seriously. So I just responded to the title which seems more reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:16 PM
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op you're a genius, act as obnoxious and ignorant as possible in an arrogant way to trick people into agreeing with that people should be less arrogant by being the perfect case study. but in seriousness putting aside the dumb sexism this is still wrong, people who are overly down on themselves can be just as bad to be around as arrogant people and it hurts their chances od succeeding in tasks if they assume they'll fail before trying. I think if anything society needs to discourage toxic self-d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:05 PM
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it comes across as insecurity
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:52 AM
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neither, those are analogies, the point of analogies is to make a comparison to make a point you want to make, they aren't actually representative of real life. There is an untold number of analogies you could make about men and women based on specific aspects of relationships in any direction you like. And I think it tends to do more harm then good as it's usually based on stereotypes and now rather than talking about the point you want to make directly people will just debate how plausible the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:01 AM
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I think actually both are stigmatised just men to a lesser degree. My assumption why is men who are single dads have proven they are willing to be responsible and look after their kids rather than abandoning them. So its seen as a sign of good character. Whereas it's just taken for granted a women will look after her kids so men wont see it as a positive, instead some will see it as a moral failing she had sex at all with someone who left her that it must be her fault. And dont forget the men wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 01:23 PM
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not so much a turn off but more of a red flag, my concern would be they'll turn out to have some crazy beliefs or some negative personality traits or even be dangerous. Not all men who have no friends are like that but there is a correlation. It will make things harder but it's not a dealbreaker, it probably depends more on vibes you give off.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:36 AM
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no their not the same thing and the way you phrase things matters, even if your intentions are the same they convey different things. telling someone to do something applies pressure and implies you haven't considered the possibility the other will say no. Telling people what to do when you have no authority over them and they have no obligation to do what you say makes you come across like an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:42 PM
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"if good people are exploited through default contracts by bad people, they don't participate in society at all. When good people stop participating, society crumbles." don't agree with the framing here, (like if alimony didn't exist they'd be way more abusers using financial coercion to keep spouses) but answering this, we don't have a big problem of men being disincentivized into relationships or having unprotected sex. Child poverty is a much bigger problem. Alimony is vital for cases where o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:20 AM
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So there's 3 things at play here, Firstly everyone is different so you're never going to please everyone. Secondly reading what people are into and knowing how to flirt are social skills and for a lot of women, it's an attractive trait in of itself, it's not a contradiction a lot of women don't want the sex pest or the asexual guy, they want the guy who is good at flirting and good at picking up signs. Thirdly there's a middle ground between pressuring someone into sex or asking for it in a cree…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:44 AM
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alpha male isn't a real biology term, at least when applied to humans, it's pseudoscience
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:38 PM
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Did you just list rape, murder and p*do to cry about how women are too afraid of these things and it's hurting men's dating odds? You really should take a bit of time for self-reflection on that, on why people don't want to date you. idk who is blaming men for the rest of that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:20 PM
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I don't disagree that's my point. And because women and men have different challenges that's why it can be difficult for people to understand each other because we hyper focus on the things that are difficult to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:34 PM
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I feel like some women give up on enjoyable sex. they dont expect it so focus to nother things they want. I definitely don't think this is a great way to base a relationship but it is something that happens sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:31 PM
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there is a choice you can choose not to date and focus on other things. if dating really is that much worse for men surely there is a cut off point where they will stop pursuing women entirely and once some do that means more demand for the remaing men and it would balance itself out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:27 PM
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fair enough but if you are the only person enjoying the sex your not really fufilling your end of the bargain and that's one of the reasons women avoid having sex as much. and if it's your long term partner you are especially shooting yourself in the foot if you dont keep them having fun too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:23 PM
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So why arent more men leaving the dating market and more women entering it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:41 PM
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since when do all women have an abundance of options and men have none. if men are getting less out of dating than women to such a ridiculous degree why are men still pursuing women so much and why arent more women rejoining the dating market to pick up all the great guys. If the system is unfair why hasn't it balanced itself out?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:16 PM
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you are making things up, I never denied reality, I don't know if I even disputed any of your complaints, I've just been pointing out the flaw in your logic. It is not an absolute that more choice = better, adding options that are worse other options you already have does not help you. All that matters the quality of the best option you can get (based on your preferences). to make a stupid analogy, if I go to the supermarket, and I get the cereal brand I like the most, that's all that matters, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:12 PM
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"if your partner is hot, but shit personality and you only discovered later on, thats your fault, not all mens fault", by this logic if you can't get women interested in you that's you're fault not women's fault? And you are blaming women for men lying and manipulating them, and then turning around and complaining about the state of the dating market is and how difficult it is to date. "I am doing the math, women level 5 going for 9 and 10 and ignoring 8" this is just your subjective opinion on …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 11:56 AM
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So you basically just took my point about the issues women have and said "no your wrong, that only happens based on women's behaviour", based on idk what, you haven't had the other experience. This is why I said there's no point debating personal experience you don't have it. You should address the math point, if women have it better than men, why aren't women going after men more to get a great deal, and men avoiding women more because they get a shit deal? why isn't the system balancing itself…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 11:31 AM
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I think you missed my point a bit and just listed the issue men have with dating, which I don't disagree with, you will have a harder time getting your foot in the door. examples of issues women tend include men lying for sex, being manipulating, controlling, abuse, being emotionally unavailable and men who are in relationships putting in less effort over time. Women's issues are more about men's behaviours once they actually have a relationship. Now because you haven't had these experiences you…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:54 AM
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I don't believe men have it easy, just like I don't believe women have it easy I believe they have their own unique challenges in dating. Both men and women probably underestimate each other's issues because they down have the same issues and they haven't lived the same lives. They judge things by their own metrics the things that matter to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:42 AM
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I think it's true, that attraction is fluid to an extent. Therefore by your own logic, if men aren't happy with their options they should be "dating down" more too. And women do know that a lot of these men just want to get laid, and as a result there's another reason for women to leave the dating market altogether rather than deal with these men. Trust me, women knowing how many like this exist is not helping men's dating prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:34 PM
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I assumed the op means unattractive more broadly not just physical unatractivess. If the op did just mean physical attractiveness idk of that's something a lot on women here assume. Maybe a small correlation because guys who are unsuccessful have more reason to come on here and complain but that's not the main reason someone would think these guys arent attractive. and yes physically attractive people are more likely to be successful in dating but guys who have unattractive personalities are goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:16 PM
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I didn't mention physical attractiveness at all. How people act is very important to attractiveness, that's the only thing you get a good indication of from people's posts
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:12 PM
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I think so yeah, if people spend all their time inside online they won't meet other people. And the thing is it is partly by choice, it's easier to stay inside than meet new people, it's actually hard to find stuff to do outside and make time for hobbies and the internet gives us something that's so easy and is a lot of fun to use. But then as more people spend time inside it means it's harder to meet people irl as the people you could have been hanging out with are disappearing inside. Another …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 09:08 PM
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I would say try to make friends in general to help with social skills and so you don't end up in a situation where even if you do get a partner you don't end up relying on them too much as the 1 person you can talk to. If you have super nerdy niche male dominated hobbies your right there probably won't be many women there. But if that's the only thing you are into and you have bad social skills you are going to struggle to find anything to connect with with the average woman you meet on the stre…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:28 PM
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Why is this a question for men, shouldn't you be asking the men why they want to get married? Which it's just a fact there are men out there that do. I'm not a mind reader but I imagine it's probably similar reasons to women, wanting to spend your life with someone you care about. "We already know these women are not settling for typical companionship. Standards are high and he needs to have a 6 pack, 6 figure… blah blah. Tl.dr the men they are interested in are in high demand." literally just l…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:37 PM
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charisma, creativity, intelligence, being a genuinely good person, affectionate and uh being dominant in the bedroom. I don't think I could pick just one because they build on each other or are attractive in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:25 PM
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oh, I'm dumb my bad
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:18 PM
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I can't answer such a broad hypothetical. But generally speaking: There are posts on this sub are just blatant vehicles to hate on women and aren't even about fixing any problems or aren't even about real problem. You should blame the people responsible for your problems for your problems. If you have a fair complaint against a group of women, no matter how bad those particular women are, that doesn't justify the shitting on women generally. So many posts are "women in my life did this, this is …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:11 PM
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never said that, you don't have to shit on women to talk about your problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:35 PM
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Biggest thing is low effort, opening with "hey", not reading anything about me before messaging. giving me stuff that's so generic I assume it's from a template. Another is not being willing to say what you want "I'm into anything!" and ignoring my questions or avoidant behaviour. Demanding and controlling behaviour. An annoying thing I've found is I'll tell a guy how I want things to go and for some reason there are some guys who clearly want something else and just think I'm hot so they'll kee…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 08:55 PM
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If the post someone makes comes across as unattractive, having features such as; insecure, emotionally unstable, whiny, petty, emotionally unintelligent, or just generally unintelligent, plus the fact they are spending their free time bitching about the dating market I am gonna assume there's a correlation. but yeah not all the posts come across as inherently unattractive, and sometimes people probably just make up a completely different personality for online or real life, and I'm sure some wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 08:09 PM
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I think 1 looks very cute, all 3 look very conventionally attractive I can say that I'm bi. anyway I think the results say, there is a correlation people to tend to find the same things attractive but there is a lot of variety. More than half picked a woman other than 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:19 PM
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He spontaneously starts crying, and when the woman asks what happened, he takes her to a random grave and tells her it's his mom's grave. Both start crying at the grave. This overload of feelings, emotional intensity, and the powerful emotion of death make women weak at the knees. He takes advantage of this and passionately beds her. Do you not see anything unethical about this? Do you not think women won't see through this, or be creeped out?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:15 PM
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oh my bad. fair enough. interesting how big of a difference there is between 3 and the rest. 1 and 5 also look extremely conventionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 11:31 AM
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I thought this was a woman being sarcastic then I read the username lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 11:30 AM
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is that out of 100? the ratings you gave for 1, 2, 4, 5 are insane. I was told here only women had ridiculous standards
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 11:28 AM
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it's because it makes you look like an incel, a redpiller or a general misogynist who thinks it's okay for men to do it and judges women morally for it and these aren't the types of men most women want to date. Or it just makes you look generally insecure which again not a lot of women want to date. Even if you aren't that type of person, it's associated with these types of men. If you think women sleeping around is an ick, people can wonder what other view you have on women. If you have those t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 11:18 AM
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there's no contradiction here, your allowed to have your preferences, women are allowed to be turned off by what your preferences are or how you present it. If a man comes cross as insecure especially about how he compares to other men and brings up cuckholding can you not see why that would turn women off or come across as creepy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:39 AM
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Yes there are also shows aimed at women romance where she gets a stereotypical handsome man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:31 AM
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when you're chatting to any woman, bring up how you don't like women who sleep around and say that paragraph outload and tells us how it goes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:03 AM
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yes women know a lot of men have a preference against it, I know this, but if a guy says this I'm going to wonder why his preference is that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:58 AM
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Working on having a more attractive personality, better flirt game. for a lot of women personality plays a big part in attraction. You should go in with the mentality that you have value and the person you're dating has value and have confidence. Different women have difference preferences so you'll never appeal to all women, but there are things that are far more likely to work than other. E.g. if the guy never flirts how is anything meant to happen, if the conversation doesn't come across as n…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:55 AM
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that applies to you it dosnt apply to all men. since I know you dont care what I have to say just go ask other men why they dress the way they do. You might ne living in an echo chamber where everyone thinks the same as you do, go ask ask men or something and see what they respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:20 AM
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how does woman saying they wear make up for them effect your life even if it was a lie. also do you not realise how brain poisoned you are by this ideology. can you not just look at your own life how you could wear a nice suit or a nice hair cut and feel good about yourself. Can you not just enjoy looking good?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:04 AM
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You can literally just search reddit and you'll find some women say they wear make up to get dates. And yes a lot of women will say they wear it for themselves, But remember a lot of the time this is in the context of men saying all women wear make up to impress men. I don't know the exact number of women who wear make up for themselves vs those who wear it for men or society and neither do you. Not everyone thinks the same. What is your actual problem here? Why are you so hateful over something…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:22 AM
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Can I see what the post was, that sounds like an insane reaction. Regardless of what you posted I can't see how it'd justify that response
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:01 AM
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I don't know much about the subject I will take your word on that and edited my post, though OP said overweight not obese. Either way it doesn't change my point, the overweight woman knows she's overweight
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:47 AM
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You not seeing it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. You've never heard of the cliche of the mom telling her daughter to lose weight?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:42 AM
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According to some women. According to some men they go to the gym for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:34 AM
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Women tend to say the advice in a politer way but I've been told I was wrong before by other women. Also how brainbroken do you have to be to think overweight women never get told they should lose weight, or that they had never even considered the idea. putting aside how hilarious and delusional the op is, I think there's a tiny bit of truth here. When someone vents about their problems; women are more likely to give emotional support, men are more likely to give advice. The OP here is assuming …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:31 AM
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I think men having standards is a good thing, if I'm not someone's cup of tea I'd like to know upfront and early. Just don't be a dick about it or present it in a creepy way. As to why some women might shame you, it's because your preferences come across as creepy or shallow to them. If you bring up body count women will wonder WHY that's important to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:16 AM
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I'm talking about physical appearance, not finances, I already answered finance, men simply don't value it as much in women, marrying a rich woman is not on the priority list. Men shaving and women removing body hair are just not on the same scale in how much society expects them to do it, it's not even close. "Working out by itself is more intensive than what you described." Waxing can actually be extremely painful. Make up is a skill and takes time. And working out is not a requirement it's no…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:51 PM
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you can argue none of the stuff women do are self improvement they are all just things that make women more appealing to men and get accepted by society. The point isn't the technicality of whether it's self-improvement it's whether women put effort into their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:26 PM
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Make up, skincare, hair removal, are all major industries. These are all necessities if you want to be seen as an attractive woman. The standards for male hygiene aren't as high. I don't think working out balances this out, and men can be seen as attractive without working out, I for one don't care for body builders. Plus working out actually if you don't do it too much is just beneficial on it's own, even if nobody cares you still have a health reason to work out to a degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:16 PM
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There are guys who bring it up as a revenge fantasy, the purpose of bringing it up is not to help women it's to demean them and take pleasure in the idea they will suffer as much as they do. sure on average there will be more lonely older women than younger women, sometimes these guys will exaggerate this point but the real fantasy part is to think the women lost out by not dating the guys who post about it. If you spend all your time online posting about how much women will suffer for not datin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:30 PM
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"I started working out, saving money, dressing better, learning new skills and hobbies, etc." You seriously think men put more effort into their appearance and how they dress than women? and how many men have skills and money as a priority in women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:13 PM
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I agree video games do this a lot but it's in TV too. A lot of family comedy shows have a slob everyman husband with a beautiful wife and then you have the romcoms where the everyman chases the hot girl and his persistence wins in the end. A lot of these stories have the guy mess up in some way but he says he's sorry in the end and he wins the women as basically a prize for his good deeds or redemption.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:30 PM
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I think this is broardly true. But I will say there are some women who ignore their sexual attraction and date guys for other reasons. Whether you as a man will actually enjoy that dynamic is another story. And the key word is some, odds are the women you are attracted to probably isn't one of those women. Another key point is attraction isn't entirely black and white, for a lot of women your personality can play a big part in attraction and sometimes the lack of attraction is because the man's …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:23 PM
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Even if you function well enough in some areas doesn't mean you won't struggle in others. Relationships are a very social thing. You don't see zuckerberg as having social skills issues? You don't see Musk having personality issues that would put woman off? You don't see tate publicly telling men to treat women like objects and being arrested for human tariffing to run a prostitution ring would put women off? Not that any of those are even caused by autism
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:58 PM
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I am pretty sure autistic men's biggest issues is having a social disability and the fact most of them are unemployed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:46 PM
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if we imagine an alternative world where now men face the same level of SA as women do in our timeline I imagine a lot would change. Men would think twice about inviting women over to their house alone, men would be much more hesitant to approach random women they don't know. It would be treated seriously by the vast majority of people, you wouldn't have people claiming the biggest issue with rape is false accusations. The same way you don't hear people arguing that for murder and theft. It woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:34 PM
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none of that makes any sense. Submissive and Dominant people both have desires from their part. You've made this weird assumption that only submissive people are attracted to certain traits and therefore submissive people won't be loyal? Submissive people just have different preferences, that's it. This sounds like you trying to rationalise your preferences, you don't have to do that, you're allowed to like dominant or masculine women, no need to write this stuff trying to explain it. you like w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:21 PM
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Main reasons why so many women don't like being approached because the man might just be after casual sex and because we have to worry if the guy is a threat. A lot of men are pushy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:42 AM
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I don't think there is anything wrong at all with having a preference. You like who you like, anyone is allowed to I don't know how many people are getting mad at that vs how some people present it. If someone seems too obsessed with it and brings it up randomly or tries to justify it like "dating virgins is better because BIOLOGY or something" it comes across as creepy and people start to wonder why they think like that. I don't think there's anything wrong with the preference itself but it can…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:12 PM
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The guys posting that stuff don't care if these women are lonely if anything they want them to be as lonely as possible as part of a revenge fantasy. These men become resentful of not getting women or at least women that meet their standards that they feel entitled to and take this as a personal attack which they cannot deal with. They want women to drop their standards and date them and the idea old women might be lonely is one of the only reasons they could come up with. Some of them might eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:01 PM
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also one. and a sample size of one is completely irrelevant, that's the the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:07 PM
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You have a sample size of one. Bit extreme to write hobbies off completely. Nobody is saying every relationship the couple has to have the same hobbies, but it does help having similar interests. Will say though, if your hobby is something that's extremely dominated by your gender then yeah you won't find people there. For me having someone share my hobbies would be an extreme plus because we'd have stuff to do together. I might be wrong but I would think that's generally the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:10 PM
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I did strongly imply his weight with the way I said it. Of course being a body type that is less stereotypically desired is a disadvantage but I do think we add onto that disadvantage if we let it get too us too much. Like there's actually very few people who really embrace it and lean into it. Like if you search on reddit for chubby or short guys you won't find many guys advertising themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:58 PM
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"So are you just conceding that any man who posts here with a grievance about women - you just label them as an incel?" no, I have no idea how you came to this conclusion. You weren't very clear on what your complaint with women actually was. "No, they are naturally categorizing men into hierarchies, and then when men are standing outside of this structure looking back in, they are disgusted." this is a ridiculous thing to hate women for, people don't control what they find attractive. Not to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:23 PM
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it's hard to imagine someone making posts this pathetic and bitchy if they didn't at least have something to complain about it. I guess you're right and maybe you are just unhinged and obsessed with internet politics to the point of getting upset about it but this seems just as unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:16 PM
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Yes it is, if women don't want to date you that's their right. And with the way you act, and the original poster advocating lying and manipulating women, at a certain point I have to ask, how are you even surprised that women are leaving the dating market? What are you offering that's going to offset your issues? And for the guys that are reading this that aren't like you, women aren't mind readers, we have to filter out men like this guy, until we get to know you, for all we know you could be o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:02 PM
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Your post seems very similar to the typical "it's not fair woman have it so much easier! chad! hypergamy!" that gets posted here every day. If you were going for a different angle for your sexism like "women are just naturally evil cheaters" my bad I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:58 PM
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If you are lying to women as the poster I'm replying to is, you are wasting those women's time, not only making their dating worse, but making it worse for men who are serious about relationships, as that's time those women could have spent with someone else. And obviously if women don't enjoy hanging out with you that's on you. they aren't at fault for not liking you. You seem to think personality and how you act aren't important factors? Maybe that attitude is part of why women are avoiding me…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:52 PM
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you make posts like this while simultaneously calling women assholes and complaining about how difficult it is to date women. If women were having a better time in the dating market they'd be going on more dates. You are part of the reason why women are dropping out of the dating market and making dating harder for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:24 PM
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There is no such thing as an "equal" man and woman appearance wise because different features are attractive in men and women. The only way to measure attractiveness is how attractive people find you. Now when it comes to phone numbers if you take a random woman and random man, yes the woman will statistically get more phone numbers, this is not controversial. A good % of men have no standards for casual sex. This is not unfair, men are getting more out of it than the women. Men's self-esteem is…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:02 AM
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"Joking about something like that makes you come off as a loser as a guy. Its self-deprication." I don't think joking about it would make you come across as a loser at all, I think it makes the guy seem more secure in themselves. But I didn't actually mean joking about it I mean more leaning into it as a positive but just not in an arrogant way, social skills are important. But I get that that would take an extreme amount of confidence. I think I should mention that well, women who have a big pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:44 AM
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"women want to be freed of all traditional female gender roles, but they want men to conform to male gender roles that benefit women, and abandon male gender roles that harm women" Well for me this is true if you define "better for women" as just stuff I want, there are some masculine traits I like and some I don't. And people are free to pursue what they like. you're free to pick and choose what traits you like too. And being freed from traditional gender roles just means you have the right to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:35 PM
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Attraction and financial security are pretty important aspects of a relationship, I think most people would be happier not worrying about finances and dating someone they are attracted to. I am curious what do you think would make a woman happier than the ones you listed? Like I can think of things more important than those traits, but that's subjective I can't put my views on someone else and then tell them that's what they should be interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:01 PM
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Why now? this wont be a complete list. People are just spending more time online and not getting as many chances to meet new people. A lot of people don't have friends anymore, so meeting through a "friend of a friend" is less viable. If there were more safe ways to meet people I'm sure more people would have happy relationships. Laws have changed to make it legal to divorce so people who would otherwise be in unhappy marriages are gradually leaving them. And finally probably just that more wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:53 PM
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these are based on your subjective interpretations of how valuable a woman and man is in the relationship. Women can also judge this stuff for themselves. Could some women be happier in the long run if they dated other men? sure it's possible but I don't really see why women would be listening to the guys who keep bringing up chad, rather than making up their own minds. Also my original post is on how women are leaving dating apps. and quite frankly a lot of women are just avoiding relationships…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:49 PM
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this is too vague, you need to give examples of the situations they should be setting boundaries. Can't speak for everyone but possessive behaviour is an extreme turn off for me and it does seem a bit bizarre that there would be women out there that are annoyed their boyfriends are too relaxed and not possessive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:36 PM
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Can you actually refute my point? Idk what relevance this post has to what we were talking about. If a person is happier with their relationship standards than they would be if they lowered them, then their standards obviously aren't too high
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:11 PM
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It is worse for short guys we're in agreement on that, but I wouldn't give blanket advice to give up, then you get a bunch of short guys who could have found happy relationships alone just because they were worried about 1 area they are disadvantaged. Worst odds are not the same thing as them being doomed, it's going to depend on the guy and their particular circumstances. On the bottom point my concern is less would it be a deal breaker, it's more like if it is seen as LESS desirable, I wouldn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:53 PM
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I wonder why I've heard some many times, even multiple times today, that women should lower their standards for the sake of these unhappy single men rather than asking what women want and coming to an agreement they can both be happy with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:28 PM
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I don't disagree it was a disadvantage. Looking at that last statistic you provided a 56% decrease in your dating chance for short guys is really bad but it's not like it goes to zero. It's a bit simplistic to say you're short and therefore you're doomed. I'd be a bit sad to think of all the great short guys reading that and just giving up. I can't speak for anyone other than myself and maybe everyone else will disagree with me but I do wish short guys were more confident in their height and had…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:17 PM
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I mean if you put people on a line, where someone is just objectively better than someone else then yep, the people who are classified at the "bottom" will be attractive to nobody. but real life isn't that simple people have different preferences. also idk what point you're trying to make, people will date the people they want to date, what is the argument here, date people just because even if you get less out of it then being alone, just because?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:45 PM
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I mean bust size doesn't make sense to add to dating because it's something seen as more sexual and private. The same reason there isn't a penis size filter. Apps do however have age filters and "body type" filters which are things women are stereotypically judged on more. "you can find a girlfriend that will always be just a bit resentful that you were the best she could get. The choice is yours." Look women on average are attracted to shorter guys, typically on average they want men who are sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:42 PM
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If your not being sarcastic gonna have to disagree with this as well. There is no should, date who you want to date who wants to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:28 PM
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unreasonable standards to who? some random guys that woman isn't interested in dating? Why would a woman lower her standards for a guy she doesn't want to date? Why would you not just date the people you want to date or be alone if you'd rather be alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:08 PM
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what does that mean, there's nothing to own up to and nothing that needs justifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:01 PM
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this probably is just going to make dating even more annoying for women causing even more women to flee dating apps and going to make it even harder for the men who actually do put in effort and want to make real connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:55 PM
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wish you'd given an example of something actually bad that women are supposedly deflecting. Holding someone "accountable" for their preferences is laughable. why the fuck should anyone care what you think of someone's preferences? there's nothing to be held accountable for.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:48 PM
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How are they disadvantaged? I do some stereotypical men's hobbies, would those men be better off in any way if I was a lesbian?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:09 AM
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I don't really get the point you're making, why do men need to hang out with lesbians? I don't really what you mean by get away from straight women either, and that straight women doing stereotypical male hobbies is somehow bad? You haven't said what your issue is, do you feel straight women are harassing you to date them and it makes you uncomfortable? Or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:01 AM
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never even thought about good breeding material. Do men really think about women like that? how many men think this? I guess I don't really care it's not much different from dudes being horny and I'm more concerned with men's actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:58 AM
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the reasons I just listed. For me personally it jus comes across as a bit gross, that they don't care if their partner is enjoying the sex and that they don't think of sex as special.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:28 PM
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What do you think redflag means? The person deciding whether to date decides what is and isn't a red flag for them, it's always gonna be subjective, What does it even mean to try and argue otherwise "no actually you don't think it's creepy I'm having sex with prostitutes, it's completely normal" ??? Finally if someone is buying prostitutes it absolutely gives a clue into what kind of person they might be and what their views on sex might be. Why it might be a red flag to some people: in countrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:52 PM
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"I wasn't a peice of shit for 30 years and it made no difference." Because you are delusional or just not very emotionally intelligent so you aren't a reliable narrator. I have no idea what not being a piece of shit looks like to you. And are you even reading my posts? I literally already told you aren't guaranteed a relationship even if you fix your mental health and entitlement issues. Your mental health and having friends is still something you should strive for and a more realistic goal for …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:00 AM
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Okay you are just repeating yourself and ignoring my counter point where I explain there's costs and benefits. But to answer your general point yes discomfort and fear aren't the same thing. Yes sometimes women might not like to be around a guy not necessarily be afraid of him. A women might find a man unappealing and a handsome guy appealing, but independent of that find either man scary based on the situation. Situations that might make women afraid include if getting approached and you think …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:49 AM
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In the bedroom there are much less women who are attracted to submissive men. They do exist but there just isn't as many sexually dominant women as submissive men. House husbands? this I'm less sure on, but again it's unusual so going to limit your options out there. Women and men on average have different preferences. To what extend is this because of societal expectations vs biology? We don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:36 AM
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Okay you're allowed to do so but if you are a piece of shit, don't be surprised when people don't want to be around you. Someone being worse than you doesn't give you the right to be a piece of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:22 AM
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It takes effort and time to get good at a martial art and doesn't guarantee results. Women might not be attracted to smaller men, plus again it doesn't guarantee results. And most women don't want to get into fights. Most people don't want to kill people with guns, and guns bring their own danger. The women dating big strong men trust those men, they aren't strangers. The entire premise of this is wrong, at least for me I am not considering the possibility of fighting some random dude only the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:16 AM
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If you are unhinged and horrible to interact with people won't want to be around you. You have a fundamental entitlement issue, thinking you are entitled to a relationship or other people's time rather than that being something the other person has to want as well and this causing you to lash out. Yes your right that even if you stopped acting entitled and fixed your mental health you might still not get a relationship, but you are just further spiralling yourself with your toxic mindset and gua…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:59 AM
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"date shorter weaker pasty men", women will date people they find attractive, bit of a weird ask to suggest they date people they aren't attracted to because they're afraid men will beat them up. Are you expecting me to go into a relationship paranoid that the man I'm with will beat me up so I should pick someone shorter in the hopes I'll be able to beat him up, and this thought process is meant to make me feel safe? The thought that the man I'm with might be willing to attack me isn't going to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:43 AM
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Low. please consider many of the women will already be in relationships or not looking for relationships. Then from the women that are open to dates, many of them won't have you as their type. Then from the women that could hypothetically be into you; many will be put off by being approached by a stranger and just be uncomfortable and want you to leave. Remember anyone you approach will know nothing about you, you could be a great guy but they have no way to verify you're safe to talk to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 10:42 PM
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I really don't know if there is a new coherent vision of how a lady should act. A lot of women want independence, to have careers, a lot want to be housewives, a lot want neither or a combination of both. I think society has a problem with how women should act, as there's the expectation of traditional stereotypical women qualities, but if you want to be taken seriously in a lot of careers and competitive activities, you can't act that way. It's something I think society is still yet to resolve.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:40 AM
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well for me I think about independence as not being with a controlling guy and being able to make important life decisions and having a career, these sorts of things. And yes it's true a lot of women want a more accomplished and richer guy. But the dynamic between women who want a rich accomplished guy and those who want independence is complicated. Sometimes it's women who don't mind not having a career but want independence in other aspects of life. Some women will still want a career even if …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:37 AM
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Do you mean what women should to please men? you'd be better off asking men what they want in that case. What women should do would depend on what their partner wants and what they are willing to do. And these things can be radically different. I don't subscribe to the idea there's an ideal answer to this, I think it depends on the relationship. "Women seem to want a man who is wise and takes charge, but also feel independent or feel like they don't need the man - which seems paradoxical." Diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:15 AM
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women who get the relationships they want or are happier single aren't delusional or entitled. You are the delusional and entitled one here thinking you get to decide who should be dating who. Why should anyone care who you think they should date? "out of their league", have you considered the reason why you are so unhappy is because you made an arbitrary point system, where you think you can objectively rank people and people will or have to follow it. yes if you think your worth as person can …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 08:50 PM
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you didn't provide a source and a quick Google search doesnt show anything about 80% of men not producing and it just happens to be the same as the meme hypergamy stat. edit: plus reproducing isnt the same thing as never having sex, never getting a date. plus even if you are right and society goes exactly how you predict it, the point in the op is that woman currently have it better not some hypothetical future or past
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:55 AM
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you made up a hypothetical for the future that doesnt say how it actually is. the only part that's true is the genz stat, which well covid was a thing and women are dating less too, and not dating in your teenage years doesnt mean you never date and some od those men wont have been looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:47 AM
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Your post is a non-starter because you exaggerate how bad what the average Male experience is. The average dude is repulsive to almost all women now?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:24 AM
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yes, because I am literally the same person as that random woman you were speaking to, we're clones in fact. Do you even have any evidence that that's not just you on a second account replying to yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:12 AM
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"The same thing happens online. A woman online thinks you are just another loser of a man." okay tbf you got me on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:05 AM
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none of that actually happened, did it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:58 AM
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actually I think studies show it's the opposite and more men want to have kids than women. but in both cases there are more men and women that don't want to have kids than those that do. So yeah there are more women out there that want kids than don't, but women who don't want kids have an even tough time. I haven't checked by age demographics though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 04:25 AM
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You're wrong, there is no "objective" standard, you are only as attractive as people think you are. And the best way to measure how attractive you are is how you are actually doing in the dating market. Not based on how some random dudes say how attractive people are. And there is no such thing as an objective equivalent, men and women are attracted to different things to different degrees. The women who are in happy relationships or are happier alone aren't delusional for not dating you, just b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 08:11 PM
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??? I just said we don't care. if you want to be a passport bro, go, enjoy your life
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:01 AM
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I find the passportbro posters hilarious whenever they make a new op or show up in a thread, why would any woman care that men who are obsessed with this stuff are leaving? You are stereotyping a bit, someone can obviously be educated and be completely clueless in another area.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:51 AM
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I am very embarrassed reading your post you got me. ngl you're kind of telling on yourself if you're saying all the media you consume and everyone you know irl is obsessed with race and crying about western women. Where do you even find these guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:36 AM
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Men can feel emasculated by that it's true, but are you really saying ALL men will and it will always lead to men feeling insecure? I don't agree that the man needs to lead and you are simplifying a bit, you can lead in some aspects and follow in others. This dichotomy is just a bit too simple. What if the woman is really good at her job but needs a lot of help in every other aspect of her life and the man helps with that, would you really say that'd be the woman leading and they have to break u…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:50 AM
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When people say don't be desperate they are talking about how your desperation makes you act, like creepy or overly pushy. Someone who is desperate but has a lot of self-control and can act normal could potentially have success because they are motivated to seek out dates but they won't scare people away with their open desperation. Could also just be unique to your group of friends or your perception of desperation. What makes you think these guys are desperate?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 02:11 AM
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I feel like choosing a job just to get dates is terrible life advice. Could it help? possibly, but your career path is pretty important and you should be focusing on what you enjoy and what you're good at.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:59 AM
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not sure what you are even saying, your OP says it's about dating down emotionally, yet you highlight a post that lists a bunch of complaints about the men, not just their emotions. Like yeah if you have very little to offer and are struggling in every area you are not going to be very appealing as a romantic partner. People shouldn't and wont date you because they feel pity for you, it would have to be because there's something about you they want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:48 AM
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I guess drinking milk straight from the fire hydrant would explain why chad is 4ft wide.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:45 AM
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conversational skills and personality is something that can come across quite quickly and I'm not going on a date without talking to the guy at least a little. But you are right that a lot of this stuff, like understanding who someone really is comes out slowly. Edit: also if you are thinking about something like wealth as self improvement and planning to bring that up I would think any interesting social hobbies would come out even faster.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:42 AM
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Does self-improvement work help your dating prospects? yes. But by how much? that's something nobody knows and is going to be on a person to person basis so I'll mostly just speak for myself. Like me personally I don't care if a guy is shredded so that's not gonna help. If a guy is well off enough to be financially stable that's already great and there's going to be diminishing returns. And I'm sure being a millionaire will help you out a lot but seems like an unrealistic self-improvement goal. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:18 AM
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I think generally you are right guys will be the ones pursuing and initiating, although it depends a bit on your definition. When I said I don't pursue I mean in terms of a 1 sided thing, I won't be the one keep going to him because I'll assume he's not interested. Once I am talking to a guy I wouldn't expect him to be the one reaching out and making suggestions every time, but I think it would be more sided to the man generally. The more interested I am the more I would tend to be the one reach…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 02:07 AM
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overeat until you become one of the giant sewer rats from dark souls
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:54 PM
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new dating standards apparently. Sorry chads but rodent men get the girl. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:39 PM
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You're basing this on your own experiences and the curated media you watch. You may very well have only met toxic people who pulled you down, but now it's made you develop unhealthy views yourself. Or you started with this view and that might be why your life went in the direction it did, as obviously it would be difficult to form healthy bonds with women with your mindset. But just because you have not been able to form healthy relationships and friendships with women doesn't mean other people …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:23 PM
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For me personally at the start it's going to be the guy more pursuing. And even in those cases I initiate I won't be pursuing a guy the whole way through, I would just assume he's not interested. after a bit though I don't think pursuing isn't the way I'd think about it, it's more both parties showing that they are interested and things just flow more naturally with people who are comfy with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 06:13 AM
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"Women never pursue or initiate", I have occasionally approached men and women and I've been approached by a fair number of women. We are getting a bit dramatic with the generalisations here. Admittedly yeah I am the one getting approached and by men, in the vast vast majority of cases. But the thing is it's a bit more complicated than just the approach itself. I can go to a place where I know there'll be available men and then give hints. is that not taking part in the initiating in some sense,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:44 AM
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You are generalising, but statically on average yes men and women tend to find different things attractive and different strengths and weaknesses. Like I don't think of this as so much of a standard but from my experience women are much more likely to be supportive emotionally, whereas while there are some men who are good at being emotionally supportive (and they can be really good at it, #notallmen) there's a lot of men who cannot. I have men friends, women friends AND I'm Bi and have been wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:10 AM
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counter point: the unfuckable men posting about how much they hate women, how women who have sex or are old are disgusting or "damaged", who write elaborate fanfictions about women being punished for dating chad and will come crawling back to nice guys like them. And don't forget the sexist guys, portraying women getting played by manipulative men as deserving of it. If your gf cheats on you or manipulates you, I guess that's all on you because you made a choice to be with her? like lmao making …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:04 PM
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if they aren't the ones crying about it and making posts calling men delusional for not dating them, they aren't the delusional ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:01 PM
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It makes sense that someone who has low self-esteem because they don't have sex then gains it if they start having sex and they are confident they have the ability to do it. but I don't think it is the lack of sex itself that causes the issue, more their mindset that's developed around it which is partly caused by societal expectations and other believes people have. Am wondering if your mentoring is purely about getting them sex or whether there's an element of just all around helping with life…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:43 AM
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Yes there are things people are more likely to consider attractive. But how are we judging it. If a woman is getting dates she likes, she's attractive enough to get those dates, that's the best metric. She is in no way delusional. Why on earth would we ignore how successful she actually is in dating and instead listen to some other random dude's opinion. edit: and just remember attractiveness is not something that exists outside of people's perceptions, if people perceive her to be attractive, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:00 AM
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The reasoning here is flawed: There is no objective standard to attractiveness, your attractiveness is simply how attracted people are to you, if those men are attracted to those women, that really is all there is to it. and if the women are happy with the men they aren't delusional. That just is how it works and I don't really see how it could be disputed. but I want to explain why the opposing view is false too: So you see a woman and think she's less attractive then a man, because she has mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:10 AM
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"even average women now have inflated egos and unrealistic standards". Do you have a source for that? What metric are you using here? Having a relationship is not the only way to help deal with isolation, (and sex definitely isn't), I think trying to make friends you can have a human connection with would really help. Not saying this is easy either, but you shouldn't just be focusing all your attention on getting a date. Being a virgin is not a mental health issue. It can effect your mental heal…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:12 AM
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that makes sense, it is a bit hard to keep track of what chad actually means. But even ignoring personality the stereotype of conventionally attractive is just not my type.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:18 AM
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I literally just said there is no should. and asked you to explain why there would be a "should", while giving my own explanation why there shouldn't be a "should". What are you confused about here?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:06 PM
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There is no "should" I am not entitled to him if he doesn't like me back. The idea of "this person should like me even if they don't" is not is not healthy it's a fantasy. You're not going to be happy with someone who doesn't like you back. Part of people are the decisions they make, if you don't care about someone's autonomy then you don't really care about them. You are just looking to be with an idealised idea of them in your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:58 PM
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I have never once in my life felt entitled to someone else just because I like them, to me this just seems common sense. How could you possibly deserve someone's attraction how would that even work? Furthermore your posts come with a lot of assumptions. you're creating this idea that you can just put people on a linear hierarchy and that there is this objective better and worse and that people will just have to follow this hierarchy. Like according to your own logic this chad guy is just objecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:40 PM
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if he doesn't like my personality he shouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:28 PM
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if I had a 10/10 personality and looks I wouldn't even be the same person. How am I meant to even know who I would be in this scenario? Trying to answer, well a 10/10 in both looks and personality sounds like a very appealing offer to most people, so this hypothetical me could probably pretty easily get a great guy. And if by chad you mean the stereotypical musclebro who just wants sex I think I will pass on chad. so uh what's even the point of the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:22 PM
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heartbroken that men like op won't rescue me from the evil chads :`(
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:15 AM
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There's the classic trope you see in all media, the guy saves the girl from the villain, gets to feel like the big man and gets the woman as a prize in the end. But OP's scenario is a lot funnier because he defines the reward of dating him as rescuing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:06 AM
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whenever I see you've made a new OP I know I'm in for some funny shit. Even the premise alone is a bit ridiculous, that there are all these men out there who devoting themselves to dating women just for the sake of "rescuing them". Who the heck is out there devoting themselves to dating women because they feel bad for the women. You date people because you want to date them not out of pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:34 AM
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I think it being subjective is part of the problem. Like if I respond to your post by my definition of weakness, I'd say weakness is bad, just not as bad as abuse. But me saying weakness is bad, would mislead some people viewing think being respectful to women is weakness or having emotions is weakness or several other things. When you talk about weakness it's kind of a self-fulfilling prophesy because it's defined as a bad thing. So people will throw in all the bad things in their mind in the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:12 AM
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You are right that in the extreme case where you get a really bad social circle it could become better to just be alone. Honestly I just never thought of the possibility that someone would take the advice "get a social circle", which they are following to get a date and then just befriend a bunch of neckbeards who don't shower or drug addicts. a good social circle is one where it's either people who you want to be like, or people who are working towards it. Oh and about "neckbeards", I think a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:47 AM
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First off, source? I am pretty sure most women don't forgive abuse, just like most men don't. Looking at the closest thing you gave to a definition of weakness; "keep her safe" that would obviously include keep her safe from the man in the relationship, which means abuse is weakness by your definition. Is that really what you meant? Now I do think it's true that a lot stereotypical "weak" traits are unpopular with women generally. But you can't just lump all traits together under weakness. Like …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:15 AM
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so what threats have you found and what proactive measures have you taken for survival? and when has this actually effected your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:02 PM
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Your first point about resources is not an argument against no fault divorce; because if you are married you are already agreeing to split everything up, the thing you are losing is your significant other. The premise of this thread is you should get to keep your significant other, but now you're talking about whether or not you should keep the money. It's a different topic. In the next point, I am confused why would allowing no fault divorces encourage women to falsely accuse of domestic violan…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:47 PM
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The title is fine, the content is ridiculous larp, a funny one I'll admit. I don't respect men that cause me emotional distress, it's the fasted way to lose my respect. your example of women heartbroken by guy who was heartbroken by a girl, doesn't support your point, it just shows that people who get dumped are the ones who feel bad, not the ones dumping. You could easily reverse the genders, I am pretty sure you can find countless of examples of men bitching they got dumped by a woman who in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:50 AM
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marriage is not a 1 time thing, being married is a continuous action, a massive commitment and people aren't property. The xbox in your scenario isn't some thing that exists outside of you, you are the xbox. the scenario doesn't make sense, nobody is coming to steal something from you, it's the person that is deciding to walk away. If signing yourself into slavery was allowed I would obviously want the ability for people to change their mind and get out of it. the most important consent here is …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:17 AM
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The government gets involved a lot is NOT a good argument for the government getting involved in something. You need to actually make a positive case for why the government should get to enforce who can and can't get a divorce rather than gesturing at other issues. The default position is that the government does not enforce people staying married for life and that either party can leave it. the government getting involved in other issues is IRRELEVANT to whether it should get involved in an iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:42 PM
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How is it common sense that to get a divorce you are legally required to give a reason that the government will accept?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 06:27 PM
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Why are you pretending like it's a question whether women were not allowed to leave unhappy marriage. It was literally the law you had to have a reason to the government to leave marriage. Why don't you have the conviction to say what you actually believe, why use the dishonest framing?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:50 PM
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I think generally the safest place to find people for dates friend of a friend type situations because that way the person has at least been vetted a bit so you have some information about them. but a lot of people don't have friends anymore. Online dating does have some benefits like you don't have to be around the man before dating, it is safer talking online than it is chatting with some random guy on the street. On the other hand, online men can be more abusive with little consequences becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 10:32 PM
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I think when people complain about dating they usually mean getting a date they want, not their ability to theoretically get anyone. Like yeah in theory if you work really hard at finding a date and improving yourself and you have absolutely no standards then most people should be able to get a date. But how low your willing to drop your standards is up to you, if you drop them so low you end up with someone you don't even like that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 09:59 PM
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it's a sign that those men are entitled and unstable, the fact that a lot of men are like that doesn't change that. Firstly the idea of a "weight class" is something you make up subjectively. Well you they don't get to decide if they are good enough, both parties have to agree to date each other. If a woman is happier not dating you, who should she obligated to date you? How the fuck is it entitlement to reject you? Secondly, it assumes that life is this rigid straight line hierarchy and everyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 09:07 PM
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You are allowed to have any standards you want, nobody is entitled to date you, and the flip side of that is anyone can impose any standards they want which you might not meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:22 PM
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If you think women don't put effort into their appearance you just don't understand women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:59 PM
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The reason why some feminist ideas worked is because they were based on equality something more universally agreed upon. The OP is talking about dating issues, his grievance is that he thinks he's entitled to date someone that won't agree to date him because he's created his own subjective standards in his head of how valuable women should see him. Women not wanting to date him is not sexism or discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:36 PM
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By dating issues I assume you mean that you feel entitled to date someone who won't date you? obviously what you listed aren't practical solutions that would do anything to help you get a date, it just seems like you have given up and decided to become resentful. The only one of those that might have an impact if enough men do it is boycotting dating sites or changing how men approach dating sites, not just mass liking every woman will make it easier for men to use dating websites. that's about …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:24 PM
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because it's funny and memorable and easy to say and it's a well known trope for men to get insecure about and it to change their behaviour. If someone said "bad at sex energy" it obviously isn't as funny or stand out. and a large part of the joke is how men feel about their small dicks
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:49 PM
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if a woman is going to insult you, why would they not say something with something they know is going to insult you? Also women have lots of insults for me. As for men, well how do men insult each other in your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:44 PM
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Source for the "empirical observations"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:03 AM
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I didn't say no women care, I said men care WAY MORE. As for why that is, I think it's just a more identifiable and iconic thing associated with masculinity since only men have dicks and it's their sex organ. It's an icon of their sexuality for them rather than just a tool. If a man says he is really good at using his hands to make women feel good during sex, is that going to impress his guy friends as much as just saying his big dick made them feel good? Like there are limits to how big a dick …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:10 AM
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Source? Like why are you bringing math into it when it's all stuff you made up lmao. Like you're telling people not to bring up antidotes, but you're entire post is just a long list of claims with no evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:22 AM
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Dick size especially is mostly a male ego thing, men are the most obsessed people about their own dick sizes. Not just insecure small dicked men, insecure big dicked men who watch too much porn and are still insecure about it. and big dicked guys who think having a big dick is going make a woman go crazy. Women on average do not care as much as men. With that aside. there are preferences statistically. On average women prefer taller men with above average dicks so you're at a disadvantage in thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 12:48 AM
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Never, I don't see it as a problem at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:24 PM
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What point are you even trying to make? You asked if he could get a relationship, he did but she isn't attractive enough? lol his wife is in her 70's now but https://www.nydailynews.com/wp-content/uploads/migration/2013/03/15/TBCQNWWYHUPDZONAZAHFBCPRTA.jpg this is what they looked like when they were younger, they look fine. they aren't a supermodel but this is what real people look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:06 PM
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what do you mean by "people like you believe", I am not sure what assumptions you are making about my beliefs. I agree you won't get a 1 to 1 ratio of effort to outcome. People who are more conventionally attractive will always have an advantage attracting people. Re: danny devito. the answer is we don't know, you can do all the "right" things in theory and still fail, people aren't a video game with guaranteed outcomes. If you aren't attractive you could spend your entire life trying and never …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 10:28 PM
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If someone can't attract people then they are at fault in the sense it's because of who they are and what they are doing. However who people are attracted to is up to them, humans aren't a video game where if you input the right moves they have to date you, it's ultimately outside your control. and Sometimes it's influenced by things you can't change or things you shouldn't change. And fault is the wrong way to look at it I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 02:50 PM
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Can you give an example of what you said that got demonised? There's nothing wrong with having preferences but how you present them might have gotten you in trouble and it's also true that people might make assumptions about you based on you're preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 02:07 PM
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if you want to have sex obviously it's your job to turn the other person on as much as the other person turns you on if they want to have it with you. And obviously if you don't want you don't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 12:00 AM
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yes. think about if you are really going to be happy if you are constantly living a lie
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:53 PM
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I don't think being emotionally unavailable is attractive at all, instead its something that can kill relationships. Obviously everyone is different though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:22 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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