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Question For MenLanzienator/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:37 AM
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I read it's 20 weeks for other non rape cases. But yeah, regardless it's incredibly progressive compared to much of "The West."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:18 AM
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Right, i guess that's what I'm trying to get at. Viewing sexism through a myopic Red Pill framing (blue and purple pill only exists within the red pill universe) misses the point that sexism and gendered bias get perpetuated through social structures. Moreover, the concept of "The West" is too nebulous. I grew up in an religious fundamentalist household in America and let me tell you, sexual abuse and intimate partner violence are endemic in those communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 12:17 AM
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What is the benefit of confining this conversation to finding a partner, when the issues that affect women go so much further than that? India is considered a patriarchal country, but the men there won't vote to take my reproductive rights away. In fact, in 2021 India extended abortion time limit to 24 weeks for rape victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:47 PM
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Thanks for sharing this. Right now autism diagnosis ratio is 4:1 men to women, so that's the simplest explanation for the discrepancy. BUT like another commenter said, a lot of researchers talk about a "lost generation" of ASD women who go unrecognized until well into adulthood, like me. :) When I was younger I sometimes would meet an ASD guy and be subconsciously attracted to him, but didn't know why. I also was attracted to NT guys who were opposite of me though, because I didn't know I was ND…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:53 AM
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Yeah, this is so common for women! I was never diagnosed with a mood or personality disorder but was told it was just anxiety and depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:20 AM
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Saying "girls at a frat party will do literally anything" is not a nuanced statement. Saying "girls who go to frats got their reputation for a reason" is not nuanced either. Its a collosal generalization. You're making assumptions about what ANY woman will do just for being at a party.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 03:03 AM
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Wrong about what? I just don't see a post from you in r/AskFeminists. What am I missing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:48 PM
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Those women consented to particular acts. Doesn't mean "girls at a frat party will do literally anyting." Being a girl at a frat party doesn't mean i will consent to "literally anything." Obviously. I'm reassured that you feel bad for those women who got raped by frat guys at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:28 PM
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Where's your post? I don't see it. Would LOVE to see how they responded to your question about virgins
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:08 PM
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The only times a woman has ever asked me to have a threesome (as in, not just some guy saying he'd like a threesome but literally, having two people in front of me saying "do you want to have a threesome") was when the woman was part of a couple. I've never been in a situation where an uncommitted woman wanted to have a threesome with me and some random dude. Now, me and two dudes is a different story! THAT is by far the easiest threesome to get, from my perspective at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 06:26 PM
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The man who sexually assaulted me took his sweet time before showing his true colors. We had been dating for several months, and he said he was in love with me. He got me to trust him first. The fact that you are conflating the "fun guy" with a rapist shows how completely out of touch you are with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 06:18 PM
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You mean all the OnlyFans accounts?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 06:03 PM
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What is r/askfeminist?? A private NSFW account? I requested to join lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 06:00 PM
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Did the twitter woman say anything about sex, anal or threesomes? Seems like a reach. "All the women's accounts you see online" I checked comments and retweets under both tweets and didn't see any woman saying anything remotely close to what you're claiming. A lot of them were making fun of OP and saying it's not the W she thinks it is. Not a single woman said "yes, with the fun guy I get to experiment sexually in a way I wouldn't with a boyfriend". If a woman is talking about all the kinky sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 05:56 PM
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Yeah like get raped by Brett Kavanaugh or Brock Truner. /s What you said is patently false, and a dangerous myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 05:23 PM
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Usually, being sexually adventurous is 1000x easier when you are emotionally comfortable with that person and know, based on past evidence, that you can trust them. There's always exceptions but this is true for most women I know. If you went on fetlife.com you'd see this. A lot of kinky women still want commitment, or want to have a primary partner. I have a laundry list of "soft limits" that I tell every new person I have sex with...things I won't do unless I'm very comfortable. There's nothin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 06:35 AM
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I doubt that. The phrase "unicorn hunter" is a thing because of the trend of couples trying to "find a third" to spice up their sex lives. Finding 3 uncommitted people to agree to a threesome would be harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 05:41 AM
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Love how this guy assumes being the "fun one" means he's going to get threesomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 05:21 AM
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You should watch F.D Signifier
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 07:23 AM
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I'm sorry that happened to you. It takes major fortitude to be here when you've experiened violence irl. When there are so many here who blame women for being assaulted by their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 12:36 AM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 12:30 AM
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It's not a competition. Fat people and short men should have solidarity with one another. We are not entitled to anyone's desire. But we deserve to be treated with dignity and respect. That being said.... Everything you know about obesity is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 03:59 AM
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The F.D Signifier video I linked to in my bigger post I tagged you in is also very informative, I highly recommend.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 03:34 AM
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I provided that because you asked about states generally. Here's info on Georgia: https://stearns-law.com/child-custody/how-to-legitimize-a-child-in-georgia/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 03:29 AM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:23 AM
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Yeah I know in Georgia men are required to pay child support even if the are not legally recognized as the father. Here's that link with more info: https://www.childwelfare.gov/pubpdfs/putative.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:22 AM
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My maternal grandma loved my grandpa. He saved her from an abusive first marriage, providing protection to her and her kids. He was a good man. My paternal grandpa was a violent monster so....I'm glad she's finally found happiness with her current husband who she adores, who is also a good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:19 AM
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Responding to everyone who left a comment/question. :) u/sublimemongrel u/samantha802 u/jay10033 u/AidsVictim Not y’all making me do actual work to back up my claims lol. I appreciate you keeping me honest. Very fair questions, at least from some of you. I got this idea from a video which delved into the history of colonial laws that are still reflected in our legal system. Many states deny paternity rights to men who have children out of wedlock which disproportionately penalizes poor men today…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:09 AM
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Responding in another thread, will link.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:01 AM
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Good question, responding in another thread to clarify.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:01 AM
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Whether you like it or not Irrelevant. No one is entitled to sex or for people to desire them. They are entitled, however, to respect and basic human decency. pity sex is better than no sex Fat women should be grateful for the table scraps thrown our way by men who don't value or respect us? No thank.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 06:56 PM
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Just in some states is my understanding! Just updated my comment. But yeah, super fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 06:50 PM
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My mom works at a courthouse, in Arkansas of all places, and she says these days courts always look at 1) who wants the kids to live with them 2) who the kids want to live with. Gender of the parent is not a factor. Most of the time, the men prefer to not have custody. (EDIT: clarifying in comment below) There are fucked up laws in some US states about unmarried men not being considered a legal parent (but they have to pay child support) which should be overturned. Those come from slavery days w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 06:38 PM
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Not trying to belittle how hard things are for short men. But the disdain and disgust with which most men here talk about fat women.... getting someone who feels that way about you to put his dick in you is nothing to envy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 03:25 PM
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What an honor
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 02:38 PM
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Agreed. His b-sides video which goes into the patriarchal, white supremacist origins of many divorce laws is also incredible.
/r/ExRedPill16/03/23 03:04 PM
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Ah, we're comparing women to vermin now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 02:15 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:55 AM
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If they tell you "If I don’t like/want something, I’ll tell you” then congrats, you just had a conversation about consent!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:04 AM
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Mmm ok well, not knowing anything about you so keeping it generic: always discuss STDs and boundaries of consent (hard and soft limits) with new sex partners before having sex! Anything in particular you'd like to know/discuss?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:38 PM
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By "logistically impossible" I'm assuming you mean that not everyone gets what they want? Because even if you don't get what you want, you still have an ethical imperative to treat others with respect and honesty. I said "should be able to pursue". I didn't say anyone is entitled to anything. Outside of honestly and respect, no one is entitled to anything from anyone else. You're right, it's a shame everyone won't get what they want. But approaching life from a scarcity mentality is the best way…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 04:50 PM
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Do I think it's bad that more men prefer casual sex to relationships, compared to women? Not necessarily, it just is what it is. It's a landmine to navigate for sure, because a lot of men who only want casual sex do not respect boundaries of consent, or don't know how to please a woman because they're running out the door before the condom's off. But there are plenty of decent honest guys who just aren't looking for ltrs. If I were a woman who only wanted to have sex in a committed ltr, I would …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 04:18 PM
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What do you mean by "male sexual attention"? You mean like street harassment? I'm similar to most women. A stranger saying "nice tits", groping or following me (all of which has happened more than once) is disturbing and will never be welcome. A guy saying "ma'am, you look nice today" and smiling as he walks by is nice, and generally welcome as long as he doesn't expect me to stop what I'm doing and talk to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:10 PM
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Hmm. I'm ethically nonmonogamous and it took me a long time to find FWBs I could trust to be kind, respectful, and generous lovers. It's true that a LOT of casual sex is indeed, bad. But because I'm experienced, I have a much easier time exploring with people. If they have an "issue" (can't get it up, etc...) I'm skilled at helping them get their nut. If I don't orgasm from PIV sex with them, I know what to ask for to get my nut. Etc.... What do I gain from these arrangements? I'm a "switch" and…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:54 PM
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Ok, read rule 8 again. My apologies, will delete.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:26 PM
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Is it against the rules to respond to a question? I know you're not allowed to make same gender question posts, but I don't see a rule saying only women are only allowed to respond to questions for women. I'm happy to be wrong about the rules but I believe my comment here is relevant and constructively contributes to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:23 PM
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I mean, I'm a woman and I would just like to note that I think about sex constantly all day every day. When it comes to "differences between the sexes" it's important to keep in mind that no gender is a monolith, and while there are observable trends and tendencies, they vary significantly from person to person and culture to culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:46 PM
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The hexes really enhance the experience! You feel more like you're on a globe instead of a flat plane, and have to be somewhat more strategic about movement. I have 2 friends who are diehard for Civ 4 though, especially because of the unit stacking, so I feel you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 01:37 AM
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Q.E.D.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 05:49 PM
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I just logged 1000 hours in Civ 5 so...no.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 06:07 AM
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I'm 5'0" and there are some sex positions that only work well with shorter guys so that's a bonus for me. Especially standing positions. Sex Lives of College Girls brought that up as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 09:53 PM
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Yeah. The story isn't without problems but it's about how they both have to grow and change as people first because he was too proud and she was too prejudiced. Or she was too proud and he was too prejudiced. Something like that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 06:42 PM
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I don't know. 75? What I tell men: "I don't know. 75?"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 10:46 PM
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they blame women indirectly It sounds like you blame women directly. Welp, that is unfortunate for men. Good thing one day when I'm old and undesirable they'll throw me away like the trash that I am. Then I'll really get what's coming to me, the punishment I truly deserve. I'll finally realize how delusional I've been this whole time, when all of these men are finally free of my clutches, that they were just scraping the bottom of the barrel to get sex. Thank you so much for helping me understan…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 12:21 AM
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Where's our trophies???
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 11:54 PM
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Ok so.... women SHOULD augment their appearance to make themselves more attractive to men. But they also should not augment their appearance to make themselves attractive to men? I think I'm getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 07:54 PM
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What's "women's argument"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 07:52 PM
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You very well know the answer. Why does that distinction matter? I also had an ex who wore platformed boots to make himself taller. I don't consider that "worse" (or better) than covering up a weak chin with a beard. I don't have a problem with either - people have a right to adorn their bodies however they see fit. I don't wear wear makeup or shave my armpits. Men aren't exactly falling over themselves to thank me for my "natural" body and not "tricking" men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:55 PM
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Me too! Eyeliner and nail polish on men is sexy as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:32 PM
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Thats a great counterpoint! I dated a guy who was a total Chad until he shaved his beard and I was horrified lol. I barely recognized him and his chin was, erm....not attractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:31 PM
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​ Women are oppressing male sexual freedom by forcing men to engage in monogomous relationships As someone who currently practices ethical nonmonogamy, you are barking up the wrong woman my friend. We are living through a loneliness pandemic and I am genuinely sorry if you are lonely. But no, other people having choices is not oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 01:38 AM
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Indeed. That definitely sounds like slavery to me. Poor guys. I'm glad they will be liberated from my oppressive pussy one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 12:50 AM
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Yeah, I appreciate that you have this level of awareness. Everyone is different, but a lot of women struggle with expressing their desires and needs, like we're pressured by society to enjoy sex but not always given the tools to explore/communicate effectively. As with all communication issues, this can lead to resentment and frustration on both sides. I'd say a big issue is that some people can be turned on by thoughts or images alone, whereas some people require touch before they're even turne…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 08:06 PM
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The guy I've been most sexually adventurous with is actually a bisexual guy. He's super adventurous and likes trying new things. Whenever he suggests something, he often says "Would you like X? I like it when someone does X to me!" It's a completely new dynamic from what I've had with other men, and it's honestly really exciting. It makes me more open to trying a lot more things, because I feel like I can trust him to understand what I'm experiencing. Nothing makes me dry up faster than feeling …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 04:42 PM
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I don't believe in smv. Attraction cannot be quantified, and all people are valuable. But sure, I'll bite. I'm assuming you're someone who's attractions generally conform to what's socially popular. You'd probably say I have low smv. I'm chubby, but well proportioned, and personally think I'm cute AF. Some men wouldn't look twice at me on the street....but then again, quite a few would and do. I make my own money and I fuck who I want. I have a lot of fun. ;) Divorced guy prefers the norm of wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 04:31 PM
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Still the feeling of not being able to reciprocate the pleasure to the person you love most is so disheartening and frustrating. I dont want to feel like that ever again! I totally understand. I know it's easier said than done, but don't forget to have fun and enjoy the journey! I'm really glad you felt comfortable sharing something so personal. Kind of makes all the drama the sub has feel worth it, lol. If you ever get stuck and need an ear, don't hesitate to reach out!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 04:19 PM
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I ..... always ask someone to have sex before we have sex. That's literally how consent works. The fuck do you mean..
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 08:22 AM
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How have I manipulated people for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 07:44 AM
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Precisely. You asked for clarification and I provided it. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 04:12 AM
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Confusing for who tho? Everyone I'm seeing we have open honest conversations about what we're looking for and who else we're seeing. Everything is clear and no one is confused. Sorry I realized I missed your previous question: Kind of weird to have more than 1 fwb at a time…gotta ask are they fwb or SD? Why is it weird to have more than one FWB? No sugar daddies, with one possible exception. There's one guy who has money that I see only once or twice a year. I'm not into the "trad" lifestyle at …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 04:07 AM
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No. I would not call someone I had an ongoing sexual partnership where there was no commitment involved an "ex." I do understand this can be confusing, because some people using "dating" and "relationship" interchangeably. But I'm using "dating" to mean seeing people and exploring my options, which is actually the more old school meaning of "dating" IMO. Back in the old days, exclusivity was not implied until you were "going steady" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 03:43 AM
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I call it "casual dating." Dating does not imply exclusivity nor does it imply long term commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 03:36 AM
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One of my biggest insecurities is the fact that I never made my ltr ex gf cum. That hits me so deep I cant express the words. Thats the type of shit that keeps you up at night. Yes!! I appreciate your honesty so much. This is way more common than you might think, and absolutely nothing to be ashamed of. I know it probably feels like a huge failure/setback, in large part because society (and most porn) tells men that they're supposed to automatically know exactly what to do. It doesn't help that …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 03:24 AM
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That is a false dichotomy my friend. But hey, as long as you're not lying or manipulating people for sex, you have the right to chose the parameters of your happiness however you see fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 01:30 AM
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It's not self abuse in any way if it works. I'm not sure that's true. If you're placing all your value in superficial things -- how much money you make, how fit you are, how many women you can get into bed, or even how hot and obedient your wife is -- you're setting yourself up for a hollow, meaningless existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 01:12 AM
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sex is part of the process of growing up Yes, I very much agree! Honestly one of my exes was a virgin when we got together, at the age of 28, and looking back it seems so obvious why it wouldn't work out. Like, what were the chances that I, the first person he ever slept with, could sustain his happiness forever being the only person he'd ever slept with? Not to mention, although his technique improved immensely over years, I felt sexually unfulfilled a lot. Those are not good terms for entering…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 12:57 AM
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Hi OP! I'm a woman who has a few FWBs but despises hook-up culture. It took me a long time to find guys who were genuinely respectful and kind who I could trust. You're doing the right thing being honest upfront. I like how you say you're looking to grow as a person. That's a perfect detail to have on your dating profile to signal to women that although you are not interested in a relationship, you have emotional intelligence. This helped me find "the good ones." They had info in their profiles …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 11:23 PM
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Oh won't SOMEONE PLEASE free this man from human bondage???? Get amnesty international on the phone!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 11:07 PM
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If you don't find his advice helpful that's totally fair. To be clear, I watch Dr. K because his advice helps ME. His interviews primarily - Ive learned a lot about myself by seeing another person work through their problems in real time. It has helped me empathize with other people as well. My motivations for being on this sub vary. True, I am here because I have compassion for you guys and your struggles, or at least I strive to have compassion. But sometimes seeing the toxic logic here makes …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 10:48 PM
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That makes perfect sense to me an I'm glad you're speaking up about this. To me it feels like an extension of self-help culture. We live in a society that is obsessed with self improvement, and the self help industry is designed to keep us unhappy so that we'll spend more money (that's a bit simplistic but you know what I mean). He's a bit controversial but that's why I like Dr. K at r/healthygamergg so much. He supports people wanting to better themselves but also encourages his audience to pra…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 09:46 PM
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But it's still based on the idea that you aren't good enough for a good woman as you are, which might be self-destructive. This 100%. I genuinely worry about men/boys in this sub. I do think that facets of the red pill breed a kind of desperation - a hyperfixation on what you "can get" if you just looksmax enough or whatever. Some of y'all "doth protest" too much - there are guys who act tough and above it all but you can tell from their posts that if the right woman came along they would be SO …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 09:15 PM
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This question could be it's own post.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 02:11 AM
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They.....would rather.... Not trying to trivialize loneliness. But "force" is not the phenomenon you're describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 02:59 AM
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No one has forced you to commit an action in the situation you described. Other people existing isn't inherently coercive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 02:33 AM
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Yeah honestly the fact that I hadn't thought of that prior to seeing your comment makes me worry I've been in this sub too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 12:05 AM
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Excellent point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 11:51 PM
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FACTS
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 10:22 PM
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Forced? Do you know what that word means?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 10:06 PM
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I'm very worried for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 09:30 PM
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This is exactly right. I do think a body positivity movement for men is possible, and necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 09:00 PM
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They're all in crypto lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 01:24 AM
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I'm sorry to hear your girlfriend is abusive. Please do whatever you can to get of that situation. Nobody deserves that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 03:19 PM
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fatshaming does not work. on aggregate it makes people fatter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 09:00 AM
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Bro. Pay people what they're worth and what they agree to. If you want more, renegotiate the terms and pay them for the extra work that they agreed to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 08:16 AM
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Whatever fucking nonsense this is, please leave conventionally unattractive women alone. Fat women in this sub are simultaneously degraded, rendered invisible, and told we are "part of the problem" and need to answer for the actions of Instagram models. Everything you're describing is laughably alien to my own lived experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 08:06 AM
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Yes. Sure. I'll take any concrete examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 07:33 AM
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Evidence please.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 04:05 AM
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Please present evidence of this because I think you're presenting a strawman. The body positivity movement is not about coercing people to have sex with you. It's about reducing legal and social discrimination/shaming of people based on looks. And yes, I consider men with small dicks, fat men, short men, and bald men to be victims of public shaming and we need to fight against that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 11:08 PM
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If you want a hot woman....be hot. Yall need a pill for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 08:38 PM
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Yeah. I keep falling for it too. Ope.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 08:33 PM
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You might, but you will still get honest answers. They will probably ask you to present evidence like I did tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 08:05 PM
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Really. I highly recommend you post your original question on r/AskFeminists and find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 08:02 PM
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I spit out my drink
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 03:34 PM
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Proof please. I'm going to need links to posts saying "I don't value looks therefore neither should men." I have never heard such a sentiment uttered in feminist spaces. Feminism is NOT about coercing men into relationships, believe it or not lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 07:20 PM
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This is the right answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 02:29 PM
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Yes this is true for me in my 20s as well. This idea that bigger or conventionally unattractive women are treated so well by men is just absurd. I agree it's easier for women to get laid, but it's not like we have this crazy advantage in the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 06:14 PM
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If all forms of masculinity were toxic, we wouldn't need the phrase "toxic masculinity." We would just say "masculinity". Adjectives (tho English is uniquely strict about this compard to other languages) are qualifiers, identifying a subset of a particular groups. They identify "some" not "all." So they actually imply the opposite...if some forms of masculinity are toxic, that implies that some are not. Let's take a weird example: calling someone "white trash." It's a shitty thing to call someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 03:49 PM
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How has what I said slandered a whole group of people?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 05:19 AM
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Very true. For a lot of folks here, a woman they find ugly is simultaneously invisible, repulsive, and privileged. Schrödinger's woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 08:44 PM
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Lmaooooo. Show your work or it didn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 07:11 PM
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My biggest fantasy rn is having an MMF threesome. But finding the right people with the right compatibility who wouldn't be awkward seems....difficult. So, it'll probably just stay a fantasy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 05:06 PM
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Because the unattainable norms men are expected to live up to in our society are absolutely toxic and should be critiqued. It's calling a spade a spade.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 04:53 PM
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Men cying is being spineless and bending the knee? Call it what you want, that sounds like toxic masculinity to me lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 04:45 PM
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I'm dating a guy right now who wears dresses (experimenting with gender expression is popular in my city). But there's nothing wrong with being attracted to masculinity or masc presenting people, that's not "toxic masculinity." Now, mocking and shaming men who wear dresses? That is absolutely toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 04:41 PM
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I'm dating a guy right now who wears dresses (experimenting with gender expression is popular in my city). But there's nothing wrong with being attracted to masculinity or masc presenting people, that's not "toxic masculinity." Now, mocking and shaming men who wear dresses? That is absolutely toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 04:40 PM
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Identifying and critiquing the ideologies that motivate shitty abusive behavior does not excuse that behavoir. If I said, "Nestlé exploits child labor because that behavior is rewarded under capitalism. Therefore, it's not Nestlé's fault, it's capitalism fault" that would just be silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 04:31 PM
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It's absolutely a patriarchal concept. When I say it's "not gendered" I mean both men and women can, and many do, uphold toxic masculine values - e.g. believing men shouldn't cry. It's an important distinction because so many antifeminists conflate critiquing toxic masculinity with critiquing masculinity, and therefore men, as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 04:52 AM
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Same. But I'm pointing out that toxic masculinity isn't a gendered trait, it's an ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 04:22 AM
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Women shaming men for crying is actually a perfect example of toxic masculinity; playing gender police and a upholding harmful and rigid concept of "real" manly behavior. It's also emotionally abusive and no one deserves to be treated that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 01:58 AM
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"Take away free public education"..... you mean.... high schools? SNAP is an American program so I'm assuming your American so...you want to abolish public high schools. I'm assuming you're glad Roe was overturned as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 12:14 AM
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BE one? No. Be able to transform into one at convenient times, like walking to my car late at night? Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 05:20 AM
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💀💀💀 I'm dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 02:43 AM
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💙
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 12:14 AM
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Top sources are NY Post, Daily Beast and Daily Mail which are not credible. But yeah obviously if this is true she should be fired.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 08:59 PM
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You're arguing for a kind of moral relativism, yes? Catastrophe is in the eye of the beholder? But I'm saying we can't reduce politics to moral relativism, because some problems are real and some are made up to distract gullible fox news viewers from real problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 08:39 PM
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Sure but, climate change is a real existential threat to humanity. Drag queen story hour isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 06:55 AM
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Hm. Maybe but, is it really catastrophizing if the catastrophe is real?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 01:31 AM
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Agreed. Conservatives are more likely to think in absolutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 12:49 AM
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You shouldn't assume it has anything to do with sex drive. What's "it". You mean my own internal motivations and reasons for doing things? also shouldn't assume I chase virgins. I don't. I was being hyperbolic for a joke but, but fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 12:45 AM
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I'll agree with you up to a point. Only a select few men can keep up with my sex drive and consistently satisfy me sexually enough for me to want to be exclusive with them. You guys are smart to chase 18 year old virgins who don't know what they're missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 12:38 AM
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That's your prerogative dear. When I've been in LTRs I'm not "for the streets" tho. Like, by definition that's how it works. Longest relationship lasted 5 years, and I've never cheated on anyone. People who cheat should just be ethically nonmonogamous to reduce harm, imho.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 12:28 AM
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I think this post inspired me to stop putting out and become celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 08:57 PM
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The part about being a greedy capitalist girlboss who underpays or exploits her workers doesn't appeal to me. I feel you on wanting to stay home and play video games! Women who like guys like you do exist...and they're probably neurodivergent lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 08:40 PM
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A "friend" who knew I had a crush on him got really drunk one night and told me he was into me and wanted me to be his girlfriend. The next day he told me none of it was true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 07:47 PM
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Yeah ....I'm sorry that happened but if a man left me in a club to hang with his friends, rather than introducing me, I'd leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 07:40 PM
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Thanks ☺️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 11:44 PM
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Of course - makes sense that hot people want to date other hot people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 11:43 PM
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Well, it's not TRP right? And if true (i think it more or less is) shows that the 80/20 "rule" is false. Because its possible for most men on the lower end to still "pull" even though they're playing on hard mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 10:52 PM
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I've been trying to compliment men more IRL too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 10:46 PM
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Based on results from the thread rating women from 1-10, lots of men in this sub find 95% (if not more) of women to be ugly. And Emma Watson is plain lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:51 PM
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Yes, and I use condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 09:11 AM
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New Orleans
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 08:53 AM
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Yall always think we're lying about the most normal basic things lol. I live in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 08:25 AM
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Yes. Never say never I guess but it's unlikely I'll ever sleep with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 08:22 AM
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Absolutely! I've dated a few bisexual men, who've definitely slept with more than 10 guys. One of my biggest fantasies is to have an MMF threesome, but that seems difficult to pull off successfully lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:58 AM
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You're the reason our kids are ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:51 AM
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I'm not familiar with FDS so this is a genuine question. What's the contraction? It it that more women are femcels than like to admit it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:36 PM
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Totally. It's just some silly fantasy they cooked up to keep women in our place imo. Guys here reaaaaaaaaly want us to feel like no one wants us so they can feel like they have a sense of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:47 PM
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Exactly! And now lots of white women are trying to "blackfish" to look "exotic"/ racially ambiguous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:41 PM
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The broke assholes weren't Chads tho. The distribution of conventionally attractive vs conventionally average/unattractive men who are interested in me, and vice versa, has not changed as I've gotten older. And I didn't "learn my lesson" I learned my value. Dude I literally said I alway offer to pay. I'm not materialistic, and I'm dating a broke graduate student rn. I don't give a shit if a guy can buy me dinner. I brought it up because YALL care.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:35 PM
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Well we already established that I'm low value lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:23 AM
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You'd be surprised lol r/HairyArmpits But yeah generally you're probably right, I think they do. I happen to live in a city where it's a lot more common and generally more accepted (New Orleans).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:44 AM
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Thank you and bless you for reading this far lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:25 AM
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Nope! I've always been thicc as hell. Chubby chasers exist tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:35 AM
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I gained weight lol. But I do dress better now. I don't wear makeup, but I did grow out my armpit hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:17 AM
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Nope! Some have been older but some have been younger. I'm seeing someone who's 27 rn. Granted he's a broke graduate student but hey they don't all have money lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:16 AM
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Yeah, totally! I've definitely struck out plenty of times lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 03:58 AM
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You too :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 03:32 AM
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LMAO. I mean, I *did* preface this by saying I was low value ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 03:04 AM
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Ok I gotchu. Do you mean, what I know about other women asking men out in their 30s? Or are you asking about what OP said re: women thinking men not asking them out means he's not interested? To the latter I would say I'm sure there are women who think this way, and OP has a point that because men are "supposed to" be aggressive, they might generalize and think all men are like that. But, most of my female friends know that a lot of guys are shy, and that it's very vulnerable to ask someone out.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 03:02 AM
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OP asked "Ladies is your mindset like this?" so I was just answering that question. I wasn't claiming to speak for all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 02:53 AM
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Ooh girl, are you me? Yeah this is all me. My self-esteem was terrible, I was a mess. I was honestly a femcel in high school and most of college. I dressed terribly because I'm neurodivergent with executive disfunction. I was convinced no one would ever want me. And then when I did get attention from men, I figured I better be grateful for the crumbs I was getting. It took having a stable LTR (which wasn't great either but a lot healthier and less dysfunctional than what I was used to) to "snap …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 02:50 AM
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There are of course very real social preferences and standards of attractiveness, and if you don't conform to those standards life will be harder for you, no bones about it. But those standards are way more tenuous and influenced by culture, specifically social class, than people like to believe. Skin color is an easy example. Colorism has existed in SOME cultures (definitely not all or even most) throughout time, since low class people tended to work outdoors with more sun exposure; and then we…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 02:28 AM
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Most women realize that way sooner, that's how 80-20 works. What's realized of course isn't that not only you are worth more, but majority of women are worth more because of the skewed market dynamics (high demand low supply). "Worth more" as in....worth being treated better. It's not about chasing Chads or whatever. I've been treated well by conventionally attractive men and by not conventionally attractive men. I've been treated like shit by conventionally attractive men and by not conventiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 02:07 AM
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I don't believe there's such a thing as "low value" and "high value" human beings, personally. But by TRP standards I'm old, fat and have a high n-count. I'm fun as hell tho ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 01:45 AM
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But because you stopped (or rather had to stop) chasing the top 20% men in terms of looks (albeit broke) and exactly did the below That doesn't make sense. I'm saying that in my 20s I was way more likely to go for the guy that chased me. The guys that made their intentions clear and were more aggressive about it. Some were conventionally attractive, some not. My attractions and sexual desires have always been pretty diverse. I DID ask guys out in my 20s too, just less frequently. I'd say what re…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 01:06 AM
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lmao dude that just isn't true. I know y'all won't believe me but I get more attention from men now that I'm in my 30s. I'm more confident and more emotionally healthy/secure. I've learned to be more direct because the guys that brag about how amazing they are in bed are always disappointments. Sometimes you gotta give a shy guy a little extra attention and it's worth it. I'm not materialistic and always offer to split the bill. But since TRP cares about this: in my whole 20s I only dated guys w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:42 AM
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Sorry, it's kink lingo! Dominance/submission - as a form of power exchange, though the exact dynamics will vary based on the relationship. https://www.delicto.com/blogs/articles/dominant-and-submissive-relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:59 PM
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I've asked plenty of guys out. I've become a lot more direct/forward in my 30s. I'm low value though so my opinion doesn't matter lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:48 PM
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"annoying , potentially degrading and potentially life threatening" is exactly how I would describe the belief that all women desire sexual domination. Some do, many don't. And only a VERY small fraction of those women desire a D/s relationship that extends outside of the bedroom. Jesus yall need to diversify your NSFW accounts, explore on fetlife and see what real human sexuality looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:12 PM
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THERE IS AUDIO OF HIM SAYING IT. FUCKING DELUSIONAL https://youtu.be/nz_hWhkanG8
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 07:06 AM
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Andrew Tate: "I loved raping you" https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxn3dm/andrew-tate-whatsapps-arrest
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:31 AM
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This is the right answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 09:46 PM
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I would ask r/bropill. They're a great resource!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 04:41 AM
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In a workplace setting, women who experience age discrimination are perceived not only as less attractive but less competent. Wearing makeup can be a means to be perceived as more youthful. Some studies have also indicated women who wear makeup are perceived as being more professional.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 03:40 AM
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Mmm....I disagree, since "sex positive" feminism seems to be by far the most popular form of feminism in culture today. And the explosion in popularity of onlyfans. WAP being the most popular song in the world for a hot minute. The problem is JP says attracting men is THE sole reason we ever wear makeup. It'd simply not true. Most of us certainly don't go around fantasizing about every man we walk past getting a boner at the sight of us. That's just silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 01:36 AM
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Man, you really destroyed me with your facts and logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 12:54 AM
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Welp. I have autism so....if I must weaponize it, I must weaponize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 12:26 AM
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"Weaponized autism" ..... seems like you're into needless provocation yourself, you edgy edgy boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 12:00 AM
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He's very good at asking loaded questions and directing the conversation the way he wants it to go, in my opinion. Great point about male grooming practices! And yeah, we all do things to our bodies to make it more socially acceptable to be out in public. This idea that we only do it to attract a partner is hyperbolic. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 11:50 PM
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Again, that's fine. I didn't say he had no value. I said he should stick to what he's good and and stop spouting misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 10:29 PM
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Unlike what Peterson said in that clip, what you just said seems fairly reasonable. See? It's not hard to not be a misogynistic troll. Maybe you should be writing books instead of Peterson.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 10:25 PM
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I'm not acting like they're separate things. I think the movement became more online, leading to further isolation and antisocial attitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 10:11 PM
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You can't just say "because science" about a complex socialogical phenomenon. It's reductive and just silly. More importantly though, what someone is wearing is irrelevant to this particular discussion. Sexual harassment is wrong, there's no moral justification for it. Do you think Peterson is helping by spreading this message to his impressionable male audience? He's saying he's not even sure if men and women can work together, in 2018! Many men have female coworkers. At best, he's encouraging …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 10:08 PM
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Peterson: "We don't know what the rules are...[the rules = how to not sexually harass women at work] how about no makeup in the workplace?" Interviewer "Why would that be a rule?" Peterson "Why should you wear makeup in the workplace? Isn't that sexually provocative?" Interviewer: "No" Peterson: "It's not? what is it then?" Proceeds to say the lipstick thing. Then he goes on to insist that when women wear makeup or heels, they are being sexually provocative. Of course he doesn't actually believe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 09:52 PM
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If Peterson had just stuck to self help advice it would have been fine. He provokes negative reactions by being purposefully inflammatory. Like proposing that women stop tempting men by wearing makeup in the workplace as a potential solution to fight workplace harassment. Of course feminists are going to call him out on being misogynistic. Sexual predators like Andrew Tate have always existed. The difference between Tate and Jeffrey Epstein is that Epstein was way more successful with powerful f…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 09:35 PM
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That's awesome. I'm glad you're here to provide guidance and a positive masculine influence to the young ones. Human connection really is the answer. It's what most of us are craving, even if we are in denial about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 09:16 PM
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This is fascinating and informative, thank you for posting. A close friend, gen X, years ago opened up with me about his interest in the pickup artistry (before anyone asks, I didn't "friendzone" him, he liked athletic women so I wasn't his type) like, back in 2012 before this shit really popped off online post-gamergate. I disagreed with a lot of what he said, but I understood it. He articulated the problem of some men needing guidance on dating and confidence very well, in a way that was nuanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 09:02 PM
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So you want to continue to string someone along and be with you while you shop around for something better? That's immoral and cowardly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 08:31 PM
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Yeah "I love cuddling" is a super common line at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 04:52 PM
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Agreed - this is like, bizarrely formulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 12:29 AM
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YES it gets better!!!! It's good that you're listening to your gut and only sleeping with who you want to. Your n-count is very very normal for someone your age. Having a high n-count does NOT make you better at sex. Having sex repeatedly with the same person, where you explore explore each others bodies and communicate and learn how to please each other...that is how you will become good at sex. Keep in mind though, no matter your n-count, that everybody is different. Go into each new sexual ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 12:17 AM
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That's hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 12:02 AM
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Hmm... slow doesn't mean "romantic" necessarily. And slow can still be rough. For penetration, nice steady but hard stroke is usually best imho. Then again, as long as I'm touching my clit, there's lots of styles that I can get off to so it's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 11:56 PM
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People make all kinds of shitty choices. The issue is people in this sub blaming women for being taken advantage of, manipulated, or abused. When I've brought up the fact that my mother and grandmothers were abused here, multiple people have tried to rationalize it to me and say that it must have been their fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 07:02 AM
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Ok, I can see what you mean. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 01:03 AM
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I don't have any desire to get married so....the term feels somewhat old-fashioned, but that's just me. Maybe you didnt mean it this way, but "this man posses qualities that make him damn near perfect in all aspects" seems a bit extreme. Expecting perfection in a partner does not sound like a healthy mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 12:56 AM
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W comment
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:47 PM
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Huh. My saying I'm attracted to men with a strong sense of justice has nothing to do with beauty standards. You're reading a whole lot of nothing into my statement. But sure, I'll bite. I'm a fat woman. My friend who is a 10/10 athletic knockout hit on my ex first and he turned her down because turns out he likes big girls. He asked me out a few weeks after that. There are trends/tendencies, but any big girl will tell you that desire is subjective. It's the same for women. Some desire the kind o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:55 PM
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Mass incarnation is one of the biggest injustices that affects men, especially in America but also in many other countries. And women are disproportionately represented in activism to change that. So I don't think that accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:18 PM
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All women are different, but this is definitely true for me. You basically described my ex boyfriend. A rigid sense of right and wrong and social justice. He took me to volunteer at a homeless shelter on our second date. Usually gentle guy, not agressive in social situations, and even submissive in the bedroom. He was definitely the kind of person you didn't want to cross though. He had a lot of anger underneath it all, and when angry he could be extremely judgemental and even cruel. The relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:12 PM
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You had me in the first half, not gonna lie...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 08:18 AM
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Yeah, as a woman in her 30s, the sex drive been pretty insane for me as well. Not that I'm complaining lol. I hope you're right about the 40s!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 07:36 PM
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Sure, tons of folks are just there for the hookup but you'd be surprised how many women on there are looking for monogamous LTRs. If sexual compatibility is a high priority for you as a woman, it makes sense to seek out a community with similar priorities. Like this is a tad extreme, but some folks desire a 24/7 D/s dynamic, in the context of a monogamous relationship, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 06:24 PM
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LMAO you're not wrong, the gender distribution might be worse, idk. That's a fair point. Also, very common to see folks promoting OF or other kinds of sex work. Buuut, I think you'd be surprised at how many normal women are on the site. Including women who are very explicit about seeking a monogamous relationship, believe it or not. It's not a quick thing, you do need to build up your page - show your interests and post photos (you dont have to post your face). A lot of women on Fet complain abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 05:08 PM
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I'm just saying women with high libidos tend to be focused on getting their nut, for obvious reasons. That means we tend to be more comfortable touching ourselves (esp our clits) during sex, getting on top and initiating a variety of positions, and generally showing enthusiasm. We also tend to be skilled helping guys who have performance anxiety. Im all about building people up. If I'm having sex with someone, I want it to be good and worth it. I am picky about sussing out which men are going to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 04:50 PM
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Lol, no we don't. High libido women tend to take charge of their own orgasms, and we only fuck who we want to. Why would I fuck someone I thought was mid?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 04:36 PM
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I'm a woman with a high libido. A good way to find higher libido women is to get a Fetlife account. It's like a social media site for kink, but more vanilla folks are welcome. FL can be a shitshow but overall I recommend. There's something for everyone there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 04:32 PM
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Hmm.... I wasn't ashamed. I was just young, dumb and awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 08:46 AM
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I agree with a lot of what you're saying, except for baseless assumptions you're making about me. Whatever "toxicity" you're reading into my statements is entirely your projection. I can tell you mean well, but this feels presumptuous and condescending. Please consider that I was talking to OP - someone who does not appear to care about women as complete human beings. As such, I only provided information about myself pertinent to our disagreement. What my mother "imprinted" on me is that I need …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 06:26 AM
1

You want to....correct for older women's higher libidos?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 03:57 AM
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Lol. Ok. I was horny as fuck as a teenager and I'm WAY hornier at 33. And WAY more skilled. And I don't fake orgasms anymore. Not all women peak later in life but it's very, VERY common. There's lots of studies to back that up. https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/ss/slideshow-sex-drive-changes-age#:~:text=Women%3A%2030s%20and%20Early%2040s&text=This%20time%20of%20life%20may,it%20sooner%20in%20a%20relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 01:42 AM
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I'm sorry, what? Are you talking about all the comments saying she's probably faking it? I don't know if she's faking it but I definitely faked orgasms when I was younger, due to insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 01:34 AM
1

This meme is so funny that I'm honestly slightly turned on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 10:23 PM
0

Came here to say this!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 09:51 PM
13

Jordan Peterson is blue pill?????
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 09:30 PM
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I don't want to get married so I'll probably never know.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 08:10 AM
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This is a true story. I dropped out of grad school right before an ex and I broke up. It wasn't the reason we broke up, but he told me that he was disappointed I dropped out because "it was the thing about me that made me interesting." Not because of my intellect, no. But because of the status - he liked being able to brag to his friends that I was getting a fancy degree. I waitressed for several years after that. Even though I made good money, my next boyfriend grew frustrated that I wasn't doi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:55 AM
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The title of your post is a perfect example of "begging the question." Why do women think their degree/career/money are attractive to men? They don't. You assert "most" girls wouldn't pursue education if their teachers/parents didn't tell them to, because they would think "what's the point since I'm just going to get married?" Sidestepping the hilarious idea that most girls are braindead morons with no ambition or goals for their lives beyond finding a husband --- I'm explaining to you that some…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:00 AM
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Very well put! PPD is chock full of sick ironies. Women are gold diggers but shouldn't desire financial independence. Women should get married as innocent 18 year old virgins, but if the marriage ends in divorce it's her fault for not being discerning enough to choose a better partner. And she's evil if she needs child support/alimony as a former stay-at-home trad wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:08 AM
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It's literally a matter of survival. Both of my grandmothers were abused and raped like "brood mares" (my grandma's words) by their husbands, and had 7-8 kids (each) as a result. They worked their whole lives, but could not afford to leave their husbands with all those mouths to feed. My mother wanted to go to college, but my grandfather told her higher education wasn't for women. Though the abuse was much less, my mom also stayed in an abusive relationship with my father because she felt trappe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 04:44 AM
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At least I have you, friend 🥹
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:12 AM
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"selfish top vibes" LMAOOO yep, accurate. He admits it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:06 AM
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Hasan? Let's goooooooooooooooo! TBH Hasan isn't my type either. But I'm glad his looks are such an asset lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:01 AM
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This is based as fuck. I want to be her friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:39 AM
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The answer they could easily google. But they won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:53 AM
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I dig 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:53 PM
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As a low value, high n-count degenerate, I'm here for it. I feel way more at home in PPD now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:14 PM
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Wholesome. Based. I hope everyone has a guy on the right in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:04 PM
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Fuck the haters OP. You deserve to have your dreams cum true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:51 PM
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These ladies have nice asses. Honestly, compared to what else is happening during The Purge rn, seeing some good ol BBW porn is a relief.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:47 PM
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I didn't say they were the same thing, but I find it strange that people who want to uphold traditional gender roles, AND people who don't (like feminists), are both lumped into the same group. Doesn't make sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:38 AM
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rejecting traditional norms in addition to rejecting traditional gender roles. So....the blue pill is when you believe in an encourage traditional gender norms like getting married. But the blue pill is also when you reject traditional gender roles?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:17 AM
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Huh. So taking the blue pill is just being a normie? Guess I thought people usually mean social justice warrior when they use it, or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 04:58 AM
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Totally agree. There's a great video by Khadija Mbowe that dives into this issue (though it extends beyond just dating). She got a LOT of hate for it, from all sides, but I think she's right. I got really emotional listening to her because she goes into how women and femmes need to be able to speak our hurt and loss. The abrasive online pop feminism of the 2010s isn't working for us, we need to dig deeper. Some people are too traumatized to move past their hurt though, and I have compassion for …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 04:19 AM
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Having a family is blue pill? God I swear sometimes I think I have the lingo down and then a comment or post says something that utterly confuses me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 01:03 AM
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Women can absolutely behave in those ways. Typically it's not because they are trying to preserve their social status as "real" women tho. There very well may be other toxic things women do to preserve their social standing as feminine. Believe it or not, this is a conversation being had in feminist circles as well. "Toxic masculinity" describes a very specific subset of trends, like men who don't recycle because they find it "gay" or "feminine." Doesn't mean all men who don't recycle are doing …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 12:01 AM
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Toxic masculinity is when men don't wash their own asshole, don't recycle, or resort to physical violence because they think acting that way makes them more masculine, or makes them seem like "real" men. It has nothing to do with the things you mentioned. Your definition is incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:18 PM
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Yeah same. Like, it's clear OP didn't think highly of this girl. Maybe, just maybe, she was perceptive enough to pick up on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 08:34 PM
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I mean....women in LTRs also have to worry about getting pregnant. You typically have to me more careful/mindful because you're having more sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 06:04 PM
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I've got a master degree but I come from a working class background. I respect blue collar work would gladly date someone who never went to college. The fact they don't have student debt would be a bonus!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 06:13 PM
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Who are you? What do you want out of life? What do you value? What makes you happy? What are you looking for?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 08:18 AM
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It's called "I'm a rando on tinder and these are my demands" and I'm gonna argue that putting shit like "no fatties no femmes" in your dating profile is 1) not a personality trait 2) worth making fun of. It's definitely not worse than doxxing which literally could bring them physical harm, wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 07:04 PM
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Sorry I think I'm missing something! What do you mean by "develop a type and stick to it?" Like you think people switch up what types they're attracted to too much? Lol damn, guess she wanted a big boy for cuffing season. But yeah, to each their own. I'm glad we're not all chasing after the same thing all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 03:01 AM
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I can't speak for all people but most big girls do have similar experiences to mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 02:43 AM
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IDK man, go ask the femdom subreddit ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 01:47 AM
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Attractive women specifically? EDIT: also this article says nothing about women being fake and just pretending to like each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 01:35 AM
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Haha I've never seen Stranger Things. D&D can bring out strong emotions in people tho lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 12:12 AM
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Most wholesome interaction I've ever had in this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 11:35 PM
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LMAO. W comment
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 10:30 PM
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This has not been my observation. Do you have data to support this?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 10:27 PM
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I once witnessed two guys who had been super close since childhood get into a rage-filled friendship-ending fight during a D&D sesh. Shit happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 10:23 PM
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Yeah that's fucked up and doxxing is wrong. I've never heard of groups like this. I'm in groups that share funny dating profiles but no names/faces allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 10:02 PM
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Interesting. Yeah I guess that does make sense!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 09:48 PM
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Hmm...it depends? I've turned down plenty of guys for sex when it was obvious that they thought I was "low hanging fruit." If they're assholes - pushy, entitled etc... sex doesn't happen regardless. EDIT: also, to be clear, some of the average dudes weren't interested at all, did not pursue sex at all. I'm not sure - I think I can usually tell the difference if I'm someone's type versus not. The kinds of compliments you get are different. But being someone's physical type versus them wanting to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 06:56 PM
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As a plus sized woman this feels like a false dichotomy to me. I've been treated as less than by tons of conventionally average dudes. And I've been treated as "ltr material" or whatever by conventionally hot dudes who just happen to like bigger girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 05:02 PM
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Ever notice how men who are very successful sexually are never blue pilled? They may not be actively red pilled, but they’ll always agree that a lot of the “negative” and “harsh truths” about women are true because they see it first hand often, it just becomes “well duh” for them. Hasan's Chadvice is super blue pill, just to name one example.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 04:53 PM
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I don't understand this hypothetical. As a woman, I masturbate often, even when in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 02:52 AM
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If I see a man as relationship material I don't "make him wait for sex." I have sex when I want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 02:51 AM
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33F First LTR: 9 months. I broke up with him because I went to grad school. Second LTR: 2 years. On again off again so not sure if it counts. Mutual falling out. Third LTR: 5 years. He dumped me and I took it pretty hard. We both bottled are emotions and were terrible communicators. I don't see number of relationships OR n count as a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 02:47 AM
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I recommend Hasan's Chadvice for consistent and good dating advice that's a RP alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 08:49 PM
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What did the red pill originally mean in spirit? Hasan's Chadvice is quite feminist, and he doesn't endorse any of the RP jargon or ideas, aside from maybe "clean your room." So I'm struggling to see the connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 06:49 PM
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I'm just confused because....he doesn't think women have all the power in the sexual marketplace, or that relationships/monogamy only benefits woman. He doesn't believe in "high value" or "low value" individuals or use any of that jargon, unless he's being ironic. He's pro sex work and doesn't think women with high n counts are "low value." He doesn't believe women are hypergamous, or believe in the 80/20 rule, or that short/bald/fat men are doomed to be alone. He supports intersectional feminis…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 06:47 PM
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In my experience, men with higher paying white collar jobs tend to be shallow and entitled. You on the other hand sound perfect. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 08:20 PM
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Hmm....see I gotta disagree. I see lots of dudes on a daily basis who I guess one might call "average" but there's something about them that makes them attractive to me. I might be in the minority of women tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 03:39 PM
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Interesting. What do you mean? To me they have little in common other than maybe a bro-ey vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 02:43 PM
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So that you can fap to my friends photo and then call me a liar again?? No thank. I have no interest in what you think is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 12:44 AM
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Fine. My friends are hot. Keep calling me a liar blah blah I'll see myself out...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:52 PM
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Indeed. Only women who you deem desirable are actually women. (but, no my friends are total babes)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:46 PM
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This is how these conversations always end. I get called a liar and that's the end of the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:36 PM
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I didn't say I've never met a women who desired men with money. I'm saying I've never met a woman who flat out refused to date a man who made under $80K. Or any amount. "Must have job?" sure. But glad to know girls with fat asses are still in :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:32 PM
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it seems women want to have high standards their whole life but then when that man makes it they want him to settle for a 35+ woma I've never met a woman with a quota like that. Ever. I'm sure they exist but I'm sick of catching strays for all these imaginary women y'all concoct to get into imaginary arguments with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:25 PM
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I would also like to file a complaint as a woman who dates men that make less than $80K 🙋
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:08 PM
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I'm curious as well. Who are we talking about? Like, F.D Signifier, Hasan Piker, Noah Samsen? Stuff like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:32 PM
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"Dieticians" (not real ones but like, people who promote dieting for a living) do have an interest in keeping us fat actually. Scientists have known about set point theory and the inefficacy of dieting since WWII; yet the diet industry is bigger than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:53 PM
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What is your age? 33 What is/was your lifestyle? (job, career, favourite social hobbies etc) Philosophy grad student, then waitress for many years (lol), then office administrator, now training to be a real estate appraiser. I'm in a Mardi Gras dance krewe. Passionate about social justice and have done some volunteer work (but I need to do more. I like playing and video games; I've got 1000 hours logged in Civ IV. I also like arguing with strangers on Reddit for some weird reason. What lead to y…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:41 PM
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Radfems aren't feminists, they're reactionaries. I have a post about too lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:28 PM
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HA!! Redpill-splaining to the married guy that he is, against all evidence to the contrary, undesirable. That's pretty good. They really be like that here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:22 AM
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This was a thing? Why did they get rid of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 10:14 PM
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Lol maybe? Way to go girl!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 10:11 PM
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lol, in my experience, finding one guy who's down is easy, finding two is harder!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 10:04 PM
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Guys who are down for MMF threesomes are the real unicorns. I'd love to find one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:24 PM
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Yeah I'm honestly surprised by OP. Like, I live in a pretty hippie dippie place so my experience may be skewed, but bi guys with inclusive politics tend to be more attractive to many women here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:22 PM
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Yeah, and believing that conversation therapy works.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:17 PM
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Yeah no, those women are being homophobic/biphobic. But, at least among feminists, those attitudes are called out consistently. I call out that shit when I see it in other women. And I'm currently dating a bi guy :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:15 PM
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I know right? I'm obsessed
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:06 PM
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Have you seen the SNL "Big Boy" video? Sza replaces a pic of ripped action movie Chris Pratt with chunky Chris Pratt from Parks and Rec 🤣: https://youtu.be/B9Z5YtWOJBM
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:43 PM
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You laid out the hypocrisy v well here, great job. I have a high n count and it's crazy how many guys will jump out of the woodwork to tell me I'm trash and how no man will ever want me. I'm like "hold on, how did this conversation become about me?? My life is decent. Yall are the ones who's bitterness towards the word is making you miserable."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:23 PM
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From a sheer numbers perspective, cities are better. But if you're looking for a conservative woman the increase in numbers won't necessarily be an advantage. You'd have better luck staying in a smaller town where more conservatives live.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:01 PM
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I don't think he was MGTOW, but someone in another post essentially said that women with autism have an easier time dating because men don't care about a woman's personality (oh wow I feel so lucky lol). I know every red piller isn't a monolith but it feels like some of these guys just keep moving the goal posts based on what's convenient for the argument they're trying to make at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 04:43 PM
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If you like having sex with men you're probably mentally ill. 💀💀 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 04:15 AM
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UGH I'm so sorry. That sounds like emotional abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 01:55 AM
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I'm sorry you've been treated so badly, and appreciate that you are able to speak on this so insightfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 03:18 AM
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Beware the evil eye! 🧿 lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 02:09 AM
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I a guy with a higher body count woman agree with you. Bless you 🙏 if they have a choice they should judge the woman by how good she is to them rather than by how many men she has been with. Exactly. You really hit the nail on the head because, for all the pain of rejection that so many of these guys have experienced, you'd think they'd be more vocal about wanting to find a woman who treats them well and values them. I think a woman that likes men and is sensual and is not frigid is a good thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 02:07 AM
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Omg that's been my experience too! People who make aggressive eye contact are often trying to control the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 01:45 AM
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You're just ignorant on this subject. I take antivirals and use condoms, and I've never given it to anybody. 90% of people who have it don't know they have it - that's where the risk of spreading comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 12:24 AM
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I'm not shaming anyone. I am trying to get people to consider a different perspective. OP says he's in love with her, after all. So this bias he has is causing him genuine suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 12:17 AM
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You just made another assumption. It got it from my first boyfriend over a decade ago. he was only the 2nd person I had ever had sex with. Since then I've become passionate about educating people about stds and safe sex - and I always disclose my status to new partners. Don't know how saying my value doesn't come from being desired by others makes me pompous. EDIT: deleted the last sentence. I thought I was responding to the other guy, my apologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 12:10 AM
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Well, I'm a ND women myself. I mask pretty well but I'm physically incapable of thinking through an idea and making eye contact at the same time - have too look away to complete my thought because the eye contact is too distracting/unsettling. This video explains what that feels like very well. He also explains that one of the big purposes of eye contact is mirroring - so, basically communicating emotional reciprocity in conversation. If an ND can understand this practical purpose, they can deve…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 10:27 PM
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I feel your pain. Like eye contact for example - for most of my life I just figured nobody really *likes* making eye contact, you just do it because you're supposed to. I'm pretty "good at" keeping a socially acceptable amount of eye contact most of the time, even tho it takes a lot of concentration. But then like you said, if a difficult conversation arises that requires a lot of mental energy, maintaining socially acceptable body language is like patting your head and rubbing your belly at the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 09:54 PM
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That's a good question. NDs will give lots of different answers. I'm someone who masks very well - getting a diagnosis was tough because most people, including medical professionals, say I don't "look autistic." So for me, my biggest sources of conflict with NTs are (applies to friends, family and workplace interactions, not just romantic ones): 1) because I am highly capable in certain areas, they react incredulously when they learn that I am low functioning in other areas. I've been told that …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 08:29 PM
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Yeah, dating other NDs is definitely easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 07:33 PM
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I'm a woman with adhd and autism, so I tend to prefer other neurodivergent people. We tend to be more accepting of other peoples' quirks and special interests. Dating neurotypical people can be really hard. But I do think it's possible, and I have a few female friends who do not have autism but their male partner does. Some people (normies) just are judgmental and will attribute bad intentions to your actions, no matter how much you explain yourself. But communication does go a long way, and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 07:26 PM
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think that human beings are so special and unique that they are completely above their animalistic instincts I said nothing of the sort nor did I imply it. I'm saying that because the theory is largely untestable, its "merit" largely takes the form of perpetuating preexisting cultural biases. If your theory is, by its own internal logic, unfalsifiable - it's just circular reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 04:20 AM
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Like youre just settling for me because nobody else would settle for you Do you see the mountain of assumptions you just made? Seriously, it's so dehumanizing. I've turned down plenty of men who wanted to to be in a relationship with me when I did not. I just turned down someone a few months ago - I told him I'm happy being FWBs but there wasn't compatibility for something more. I've also had 3 long term relationships, the longest of which lasted 5 years. I've never cheated on anyone and I never…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 04:04 AM
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You can want different things at different stages of your life, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 03:56 AM
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Making the decision to pursue another person is always a choice. Even if there's only one person in the world who would want you, you still get to choose if you want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 03:53 AM
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no more but a piece of ass to step on in the path to greatness. That is treating people like expendable trash. You haven't listen to a word I said this whole time and asserted that treating people as means to an end is inevitable (again, it isn't. in fact it's unethical). You've made your opinion loud and clear. I'm not a real person to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 06:56 AM
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You think women who are sexually experienced are expendable trash you can step on as a means to some silly end. Treating people as a mere means to an end is unethical. Therefore, I do not respect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 06:41 AM
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I appreciate this post :) It seems like a lot of folks find comfort in the idea that human nature is axiomatic and predictable. And they like to point to the animal kingdom as evidence of this predictability. But as you point out, our closest primate relatives behave in ways that totally undermine this supposed predictability.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 06:33 AM
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I am GREAT in bed and don't beat around the bush. I'd like you see to try to step on me on your path to greatness. You're right. I'd never respect someone like you. But not for the reasons you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 06:17 AM
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A woman with a high n count is going to be more likely to know what she wants. Isn't that a good thing, if she's choosing you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 06:00 AM
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There is every reason to be intimidated by the other guys. Competition is fierce and you will fall short in comparison to many and in a multitude of ways. If she's choosing you then why should the competition matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:16 AM
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In a materialist worldview evolution, biology and environment MUST explain for all behavior. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:15 AM
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Shit you're right sorry.....I was going through comments too quickly and thought you were OP. Seriously, my apologies. It's still circular reasoning though. My point still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:00 AM
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I'm glad you're here! I'm reading your responses to OP and you're teaching me stuff too lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:50 AM
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optimal continuation would mean everyone mates and reproduces. You see how that's circular reasoning, right? And basically unfalsifiable? It also contradicts (EDIT) OPs prior assertions about women seeking men with "superior" genes (is the goal just to maximize reproductive output, or to seek out "superior" genes?). My point is that this reductive view of human behavior is both unscientific and reinforces existing cultural biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:31 AM
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I'm hoping OP will explain his view further. He says that women "instinctually desire...to mate with only the best the gene pool has to offer." Men who are not chosen are, by consequence "suboptimal." This is evo psych 101. It's an attempt to reduce human behavior to innate biological drives. This approach to understanding human behavior is reductive and largely untestable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:08 AM
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How do you know that the existence of gay people "prevents optimal continuation of the species"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 03:30 AM
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Since you say you're a leftist.... evolutionary psychology is reductive, fraught with confirmation bias, and largely untestable. It's also the last holdout of social darwinism - an inherently reactionary mode of thought. Human beings are a highly complex interdependent species; shaped as much if not more by material conditions than essential biology. By reducing human behavior to gene selection, we obfuscate this complexity, and open ourselves up to a number of fallacious conjectures, taking for…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 03:08 AM
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For the love of god, if you have the opportunity to find happiness with someone please don't let it pass you by. Unless you're going to make her life hell because if it in which case nevermind. I can't relate to your struggle but I'm a woman with a high n count. Here's how I think about it: when I find the right one, I'll have enough experience to know how to please him. Also there's no reason to be intimidated by these other guys. If she wanted to be with someone else she would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 11:44 PM
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This is facts, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:40 PM
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sigh....yes if a woman isn't attracted to him she probably won't want to have sex with him. But I find lots of short men attractive. Yall never believe us when we say that though. AND, this is my point, a short guy who does nake it to stage 5 and takes the time to ask a girl what she's into sexually and get to know her body?? THAT guy will impress her because most guys aren't like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:37 PM
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If you don’t feel any sympathy, you are an incel, not RP. This is something I've wondered about and have been trying to figure out on this sub. Your account here is the first one that's made sense to me so thank you for laying out the RP position clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:58 PM
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Lmao thank you. Huzzah!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:42 PM
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Yeah, no doubt it's more challenging for short dudes to get to step 5. But if you can get there.....honestly it doesn't take much effort for some women to be impressed lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:12 PM
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Um.....ok? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 03:48 PM
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I can't speak for all women, but I think experience goes a long way. I was definitely clueless for most of my 20s, and didn't know what do do if a guy was struggling to keep an erection or have an orgasm. I've become very skilled after a lot of practice. It takes a lot of work and patience, especially if the guy feels embarrassed you have to really do a lot to get them comfortable. A lot of people here would consider me to be undesirable because of my n count though lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 03:24 PM
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orgasms for women are never guaranteed, many of us can't orgasm from casual sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 02:45 PM
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I don't need a lecture on how hard it is to be autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 02:27 PM
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🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:15 AM
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I don't need a lecture on how hard it is to be autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 04:48 AM
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I really don't know what you mean but I read something about the patriarchy fucking things up for all of us, and I wholeheartedly agree with that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 04:47 AM
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Yeah, it's a fair observation. He definitely doesn't deserve the attention he gets from women. But he's great seeming emotionally vulnerable at the beginning of a relationship - his father was hella abusive too (like way way worse than him) and women tend to feel sorry for him and want to take care of him. He doesn't show his true colors until after they're married.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 03:49 AM
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I mean, obviously I was shitposting with the short king thing. Yeah being anyone on the spectrum is hard, men for sure. IDK....I have been with autistic dudes who are great in bed tho. They're like, laser focused on getting the job done well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 03:44 AM
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Lmao I know right? His dad was married 8 times (that we know of) so it runs in the family.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 03:36 AM
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He's 5'7". Whatever gotcha you think this is....... I come from a long line of uneducated working class women who were abused by their (also uneducated, working class) husbands but didn't think they could leave because they had too many mouths to feed. My mom made me promise that I would get an education and always be financially self sufficient. And that's what I've done. I've never been financially dependent on a man, and I never will be. Do with that information what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 03:34 AM
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Don't see what my being on the spectrum has to do with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 03:16 AM
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He's got it pretty cushy now, his 4th wife has money. So maybe he's finally learned to keep it in his pants. But idk, haven't spoken to him since 2020.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 03:13 AM
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My dad is a bricklayer. So...solidly working class dude. His 4th wife is this hot lawyer lady so he doesn't have to work anymore (he still takes on jobs here and there to keep up appearances). It sucks because he's not a good person and doesn't deserve his cushy life. My dad was abusive towards my mom, she had to get a protective order on him when we were kids. But it's true she made less money (she always worked) than him since she had a high school education, and didn't have financial autonomy…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 03:09 AM
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My dad is a philandering fuckboy. Same with my uncles. So I was basing it off that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 02:48 AM
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We'll never know. My dad is the boomer version of a short king fuckboy tho so that's what I'm basing it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 02:45 AM
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Maaaaan. I was just thinking about this. If I was a straight dude, I'd be such a short king. I'd be obsessed with pleasuring women. I'd probably be a fuckboy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 02:40 AM
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I haven't read the book but the thing about neediness feels questionable to me. What does needyness mean in this context? Two couples I know IRL who is "goals" for me.....whenever they have a dilemma, related to work or issues with friends etc..., they ask each other for advice. To me that's the sign of true companionship and mutual respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:03 AM
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Rape is an effective weapon of war. It's about destroying and demoralizing your enemies. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/4078677.stm IDK bro, evolutionary psychology is also mostly garbage pseudoscience. So we were kind of at an impasse from jump.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:56 PM
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I love this picture. They look so happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 07:01 PM
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No one should treat others as objects - that's called exploitation. Ever heard of Kant's categorical imperative? Do not treat people as a means to an end (using people to get what you want) but as ends in themselves. We must never exploit others for any purpose. There are other moral theories out there but this one's pretty GOATED.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:26 PM
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Big girl here. I prefer to date chubby chasers because it's just easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:53 PM
1

HOT
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:27 PM
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Seriously like, these kind of details can give you a lot of insight into a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:25 PM
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I usually ask "your side of town or mine?" but I'm going to adopt what a lot of folks here are staying and start picking a bar within walking distance and take guys there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:14 PM
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But 1) "having sex with as many people as possible is effective evolutionary strategy" and 2) "raping as many people as possible is effective evolutionary strategy" are not one to one assertions. Either statement may be true, but there are a whole host of disparate factors to analyze to determine the truth of each. Especially given that what is "effective evolutionary strategy" for a single living organism to pass on their genes is not automatically "effective evolutionary strategy" for the cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:58 PM
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I'm not sure you want to use one of history's most successful serial rapists to support your arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 09:08 PM
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😂 yep you charmed me. this is the energy this sub needs. take notes boys!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:13 PM
2

Absolutely got to make em giggle on the streets and jiggle in the sheets lmao I love this
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:55 PM
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Bro I'm not saying society doesn't treat short men unfairly it's just....the Japanese were literally round up and put into internment camps.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:47 AM
1

What about the women who are not innocent?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:26 AM
1

Why do you think she stayed with him in spite of the fact he was harming her?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:23 AM
1

Appreciate your comment. I do understand that not all RP is the same, but rather wanted to establish a common ground for if/why this guy belongs in the movement. I'm curious why you narrow the conversation to young women. Do women become better judges of character when they get older?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:21 AM
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I understand what you're saying. So you don't believe that women specifically reject nice guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:14 AM
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IDK....most servers I know agree with me. My female friends feel the same way when we go out. But...... the through line from chicken orders to rape culture seems super thin to me man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:11 AM
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I didn't say "if women are attracted to rapists, then rape isn't morally wrong." I was curious which line of moral reasoning would he take to explain why rape is bad. Following a utilitarian moral framework, if rape benefits men and also benefits women (because they benefit from sleeping with the men they desire most - rapists), one *might* conclude that the ends justify the means if the aggregate benefits outweigh the harms done re: the act of rape itself. From there he would need explain eithe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:01 AM
1

A well reasoned and sound answer, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:26 AM
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lmaoooooo bless his heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:23 AM
1

Lmao. I disagree with you on the first part but I 100% endorse the second, and the facepalm. EDIT: actually just to clarify, I'm not saying the first statement is totally false, but I think it's overblown.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:20 AM
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It's wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:18 AM
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I think I'm understanding. So, it's women who perpetuate rape culture. Because they reward rapists with sex. Even though rape is a bad and harms victims, women like it when men rape women. "Proudly misogynistic" men know that rape is wrong. Women also know but do not care, unless someone rapes them. So women are like, straight up evil. I guess, in a roundabout way, if women get raped, it's kind of karma. You know?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:16 AM
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Omg that's so cringe - unless the food is undercooked or he has an allergy/dietary restriction, if a guy I was on a date with sent his food back I would die of shame. And end the date immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:02 AM
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I see this idea a lot in this sub. Surely, you're not suggesting that women are in any way "asking for it"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:56 AM
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It hurts the victim? But you couldn't even tell me if women getting raped by a man makes her attracted to her rapist or not. If it hurts the victim, why to women prefer rapists? Because they are immoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:51 AM
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I would like to hear a well reasoned argument as to why his viewpoint is inconsistent with red pill ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:50 AM
1

Why not? You acknowledge that you would get more pussy if you did, right? So why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:45 AM
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Please answer the question. Have you raped anybody? Why or why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:43 AM
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🖤
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:40 AM
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Yeah but like, I would like to hear a well reasoned argument as to why this is inconsistent with red pill ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:17 AM
2

lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:15 AM
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Doesn't matter. I still want to know what the RPs have to say about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:12 AM
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I cosign this. Huzzah! 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:06 AM
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Lol, yeah I hope so. I'm hoping he'll respond because either way, his response would be morbidly fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:52 AM
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Please OP I want to understand. Because either: 1) if you have raped somebody, you must have been rewarded for it? Did it work? Are you an Alpha now? 2) if you have not raped somebody, why not? it seems like, since women not only like rapists, they PREFER rapists, then rape must not be a big deal? You should rape someone so women will want to give you sex! In fact, wouldn't this mean rape is morally good?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:02 AM
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In this case yes - I stated her height above - because I was giving an example of a RP belief (women settling down with beta normies to have kids) being *technically* true in this one instance. I have another friend who is beautiful, 6'0." Her long term partner is 5'8" and has a beer belly. She's the president of company and makes 6 figures, he's a line cook who makes much less. They are together because they share a lot of interests and beliefs. He's just a cool guy and they make elaborate Mard…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:46 AM
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Women want to put men under 5'8" into internment camps???😮
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:38 AM
4

Wow. You think short men have inferior genes?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:10 AM
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You don't know? That's odd since you say you have experiential knowledge. Have you ever forced someone to have sex with you? Why or why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:06 AM
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Do women reward men who rape them with consensual sex after the man has raped them? Or is it only when the man rapes someone else that they feel the need to reward that man with sex? Or both?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:57 AM
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So...women like rapists, and reward them with sex. Is that correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:42 AM
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Why do you ask? Do you think short men are biologically incapable of reproducing? Or do you think short men are unlovable?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:38 AM
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Women don't but men do? Or society doesn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:59 PM
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You don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:51 PM
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If they have Venmo or Cash App it's most likely because they are building an online brand they are hoping to build on and capitalize off of. Either they are a social media influencer (either doing it for a real job or aspiring to) OR they are sex workers who also have an Only Fans, Fetlife or sugar baby accounts. If you look at the Instagram account of a male Youtuber or TikToker, there's a good chance you'll see a link to their Venmo or Cash App as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:28 PM
1

I am one of those women 😂 It's like guys, chubby chasers are REAL. You think the entirety of BBW porn is like, some kind of elaborate fatphobic prank? EDIT: just reread your last comment..... there are definitely guys on here who think being attracted to a fat women is literally impossible. But then they simultaneously claim that all fat women a social climbing hypergamists or whatever who could get laid whenever they wanted if they just lowered their standards. It makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:46 PM
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I framed it that way because the main post itself is about "involuntary single women" but ok sure..... you think a woman's social capital is determined by her ability to be able to attract one single man in the world, ANY man, and any qualities that particular man might have are irrelevant? That doesn't make sense. Of course there's a hierarchy of social capital based on the "quality" (big scare quotes on that) of man a woman can attract. Historically, amongst upper class whites at especially, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:42 PM
2

the gay community is allowed to like "bears," but straight women can't? Jesus, Mary, and Joseph... Ooh that's good, going to steal that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:18 PM
2

UGH that is disgusting. I'm so sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:15 PM
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I have a friend who is the complete upper echelon when it comes to modern western beauty standards..... she is HOT HOT HOT. For many years she turned her nose up at short men, and she's only 5'0." I always told her she was being a jerk and a snob when she did that, to which she would respond "It's only natural, I can't help who I'm attracted to." Fast forward 10 years... she's happily married with 2 kids to her 5'5" husband. He's one of the most kind and genuine people I've ever met, and she's s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:10 PM
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And they claim to speak for all men. If that bothers you, call them out and tell them to stop making you look bad. YES
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:57 PM
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We hate sexual predators the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:48 PM
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Exactly. I'm so sick of being accused of lying about really benign, uncontroversial things about my own dating habits and preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:47 PM
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I don't think that's true , women aren't judged by what kind of men they attract , they are judged on appearance but in a way its still more socially accepted for women to fail in this account What??? Women are taught from childhood that our worth comes from our ability to land a man. If we can't, we're shrews, spinsters, pathetic lonely cat ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:40 PM
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Yeah. I once told a guy during, as nicely as I could, that I hadn't had an orgasm yet. He went from "nice" guy to something else in a flash, started screaming at me and stormed out of my apartment. It was legitimately scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:35 PM
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Female sex addict here. Can confirm that, while the chase is usually enjoyable, even intoxicating, the sex itself is, indeed, garbage. And I'm someone who is very very upfront with new partners about what it takes for me to achieve orgasm. IMHO, the first time is never good. It takes time to get to know a person and establish at least some intimacy for the sex to become good.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:31 PM
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Neither sexual gratification nor emotional fulfillment can be reasonably gained from random men hitting on me. YEP YEP YEP
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:09 PM
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Aaaaaand, unlike most men, 98% of us are not guaranteed orgasms from casual sex (in addition to more serious issues safety). So this idea that it's SUCH a privilege to be able to get sex from a random stranger is just...silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:07 PM
3

Had a boss who hit on me constantly, it was awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 08:58 PM
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NO.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 08:57 PM
3

Ah yes. The two kinds of women, equally unworthy of being listened to. 1) gold diggers 2) fatties.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:18 PM
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What is the popular narrative? How is conformity an incentive? I make my own money. I just bought a house all on my own. Again, I've made more money than all of my boyfriends. When I have gone on dates with successful white collar professionals it's always been awful. They were arrogant, entitled, and shallow. I want to meet a man who will be my best friend and is a caring partner. I also am a socialist. I want a man who shares in my political commitments. Who is principled and ethical. Who unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 06:04 PM
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What incentive do I have to lie? I'm serious...this shit makes me so sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 03:09 PM
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Lol yeah feel like I caught a stray on that one....which seems to happen a lot in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 03:07 PM
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Woman here. Not attracted to body builder types at all. Emotional expressiveness and empathy from my partners is 100% non negotiable. I would never fuck someone I couldn't be friends with. And I've made more money than EVERY boyfriend I've ever had. And....knowing that you'll just call me a liar bums me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 06:29 AM
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I haven't met that many asexual people IRL (to my knowledge) but I knew an ace guy in college and he was super clean cut and put together. Not really helpful but that's my two cents.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 06:17 PM
1

Good answer! I think I'm the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 05:58 PM
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I've seen multiple people on this subreddit say they would rather die than be with a fat woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 10:52 PM
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YES. Speaking from experience, there's nothing worse than being in a bad relationship. In my 20s I definitely thought my worth was based on whether I got picked. Now that I'm in my 30s, I value my space and autonomy way more. My life is good, I only want to bring someone into it if it really makes sense and is a good fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:39 PM
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