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0	Lets redo this bear vs man thing. "Ravenously hungry Polar bear with a history of killing people" VS "Jacked up 6 foot 6 350lbs Prisoner serving a life sentence for raping and murdering several women"	Debate	LapazGracie	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/24 05:26 PM

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–	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise The women themselves often make that judgement. Sometimes in retrospect sometimes right in the moment. Yes some losers do take the "i am owed sex" angle. But they are a tiny minority. Most men just seek to understand the dynamics.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 03:29 PM
–	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise In most cases people are trying to understand the nature of dating. Not impose their will on people. You can say something like "women like tall men" without implying that they should date shorter men as well. Shit you may be one of the tall ones. Yes some guys do go about it in the "give me give me" direction. But they tend to be a tiny minority. Fairly common practice to take a large group of people and to focus on the worst behaving outliers to make the whole group look bad. It happens all ov…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 03:21 PM
–	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise Yes yes we know. You dont understand the argument and you're here to beat on the same straw man dead horse as the other 1000 posters making this identical point. Making observations about the nature of dating is not the same as stating that someone owes you something. When you say "women choose the worst partners" that is a statement of fact. Often corroborated by women themselves. At no point anyone is implying "they should choose me instead" you're adding that part yourself. Then arguing again…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 02:56 PM
2	Just be what they want Let's say you're an average looking guy. Just to simplify things lets use 1-10 scale. You're a 5 and you want to date a 7. You better have something that makes up for that -2. The only thing there is, is status and money. But of course that is way over simplified. I think people make the mistake of thinking that some 3/10 billionaire will be able to date 9/10 models. They may fuck him. But it's less likely that they will pair bond with them (aka fall in love). It's possible but not likely. The p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 02:42 AM
2	Just be what they want Meeting the looks threshold she wants is very difficult if she's attractive herself. the disagreement is on the looks threshold. I think most aveage looking guys meet the looks threshold just fine. They are just not attractive enough to have ONLY looks attract them. Where's with a girl attracting a guy the looks is pretty much the whole ball game. So now we're moving goal posts. 1st responders are respected but to say they're an elite status job is not being very serious. No I specifically ancho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 01:26 AM
2	Just be what they want Women do not always get horny for their boyfriend/husband. That's a big reason why relationships go sexless and end. Women initiate most of these split ups. I never said ALWAYS. I said they do. As in when they are properly pair bonded they get horny for their partner. Clearly not all couples are properly pair bonded. the aura of being a pro athlete literally makes them appear physically attractive so you do believe in status making a difference in the perception of attractiveness. I went from br…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 01:23 AM
2	Just be what they want Elon Musk has like 14 children. Both Bezos and Zuckerberg are married. No women in their 20s drool over professional athletes. Because those guys are not only rich and high in status. They are also physically attractive. This is a deceptive maneuver on the people who don't like evolutionary psychology. Women DO GET HORNY for their boyfriend. They may not masturbate to Jeff Bezos pictures. Because that would just be hilarious. But they will often give a guy with money and status a relationship. A…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/25 08:04 PM
1	Just be what they want I disagree. Males and females are fundamentally different in how they perceive the opposite sex. Status and Money to a girl is like a nice ass to a guy. Not enough if everything else is raggedy. But can make a massive difference if everything else is adequate. This is just simple evolutionary psychology. Males had to be the provider. Females are the nurturer who gets pregnant and breastfeeds the babies. You want a fit or at least healthy looking female. Which is why obese women are not desirable…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/25 07:59 PM
7	Just be what they want You see 2 fit people dating. That's probably a looksmatch. You see some obese dude with a fit model looking instagram chick. We can safely say that's not a looksmatch. It's not rocket science. I spent almost a year paying attention to couples. I would say about 70-80% of them are indeed looskmatched. Not necessarily identical to each other. But within each others range.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/25 07:53 PM
3	Just be what they want https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S109051381730315X You know they've done studies on this. This is one of MANY. My favorite to quote. We found that ratings of attractiveness were around 1000 times more sensitive to salary for females rating males, compared to males rating females. How many of your male doctor colleagues are hopeless incels? I imagine although they may not be swimming in vagege. They are probably married.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/25 07:51 PM
1	Just be what they want Maybe it doesn't change things much to you. But it does very often massively change things for a lot of guys. If you're already good looking. Being a doctor won't make much of a difference beyond having access to higher quality women (doctors and nurses). But having access to people doesn't require medical school. You can find doctors and nurse on tinder. If you're already ugly. Being a doctor will probably help. But you're not going to have the same results as a good looking doctor. Even a good…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/25 07:46 PM
2	Just be what they want If you start from scratch, which is not the case for most people here, this means 1-2 hours of concentrated research. The information is readily available for those who really want to know. Completely disagree here. It can take 1-2 hours to find information. But it can take years to figure out which information is accurate and which information was nonsense or just doesn't apply to you. When I say years I mean 2-3 years of trial and error. And that's with 2-3 years of trying daily. Trying differ…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/25 07:42 PM
2	What is meant by “accountability”? I feel like we're speaking a different language or something :) have a good one	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/25 07:34 PM
0	What is meant by “accountability”? You're missing the point. Only the most attractive men don't need to approach women. They can just sit back and wait for women to come to them. Average dudes HAVE TO approach. Otherwise they'll never have women or have utter scraps. Average women don't HAVE TO approach. They can if they want to and often do. But they can often just sit back and options will come to them. Due to how the different sexes work. SO I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying. It just doesn't really address what I sai…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/25 07:26 PM
-6	What is meant by “accountability”? Isn't that the same thing as plausible deniability? Maybe I'm not understanding what they mean by that. I interpreted plausible deniability as saying "well I didn't like him anyway". In other words "he didn't reject me I rejected him". Where's if you hit on a dude and he rejects you that is impossible to say.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/25 07:23 PM
-3	What is meant by “accountability”? No I said a woman who HAS TO approach. Good looking women approach men they like on a regular basis. But those women don't need to approach men to have options. They already get hit on all the damn time. It's just human nature. This is how the psychological aspect of our sexual dimorphism works. Sex carries with it far more potential liability for a woman. They have to be a lot pickier than men. This is a result of that innate pickiness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/25 07:15 PM
1	What is meant by “accountability”? There's also the dynamic that. Any woman worth a damn. Probably already has a bunch of dudes chasing her. So instead of chasing guys she's just selecting between the ones that approached her. If you're a woman who has to approach guys. You're probably going to get rejected anyway. An average guy HAS to approach women to have any options whatsoever. A woman who has to approach men is probably not particularly desirable. Now that's not to say that women never approach. They do a lot. It's just a 1…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/25 07:07 PM
1	People on this sub don't understand what being in your Prime or the Wall actually means She didn't' say it was nothing. She was arguing that its not the best age. She agreed that you get the most attention at that age. But your ability to choose is not very good Edit: It's like getting 100mil at 20 or 50mil at 30. 50mil is definitely less than 30. 50 mil is less than 100. But your money managing skills are significantly superior thus it will actually last longer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/25 02:16 PM
0	If a woman voted against your reproductive rights, would you still want to date her? It's like arguing whether the World Cup is important. To some people its like the reason to their existence. To other people they hardly know the rules of soccer. Some people care deeply about these issues. A lot of people don't really care that much.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/25 09:50 PM
3	If a woman voted against your reproductive rights, would you still want to date her? What is a 6 months left over camp?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/25 09:22 PM
8	If a woman voted against your reproductive rights, would you still want to date her? For some people is life and death. For most people it's just something talking heads on tv talk about. That they could give 2 shits about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/25 08:59 PM
7	If a woman voted against your reproductive rights, would you still want to date her? Yes of course I would. Most people don't really care that much about politics. A lot of guys don't really have the luxury of picking and choosing based on trivial nonsense. They'll never date anyone worth a damn if they become picky over petty shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/25 08:52 PM
5	Feminine names for baby boys should be commonplace and first names should not be gendered at all Practice any coed sport. You will see the fairly substantial difference between human males and human females very quickly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/25 04:24 PM
3	People on this sub don't understand what being in your Prime or the Wall actually means It doesn't necessarily have to be someones fault. If you date someone who you are not compatible with. That can make both of you miserable. The lack of compatibility can come from all sorts of different things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/25 03:56 PM
12	Feminine names for baby boys should be commonplace and first names should not be gendered at all Like others have said. There will be massive social consequences. People will bully him. Anytime he has an enemy that will give them something easy to attack him on. On top of that the general unnecessary confusion. All his teachers will think he is female until they actually talk to him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/25 03:54 PM
1	People on this sub don't understand what being in your Prime or the Wall actually means Or the guy she was dating was a scumbag. That happens too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/25 03:52 PM
6	Feminine names for baby boys should be commonplace and first names should not be gendered at all It may be a slightly less terrible idea now. But still a terrible idea. Nobody has taken away sexual dimorphism. It's still a thing. Both for humans and the 1000s of other species that have it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/25 03:45 PM
24	Feminine names for baby boys should be commonplace and first names should not be gendered at all Because generally parents want the best for their child. And giving your boy a girls name is just setting him up for failure.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/25 03:33 PM
4	People on this sub don't understand what being in your Prime or the Wall actually means No not really. She admitted that the choosing pattern is underdeveloped on their end.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/25 02:42 PM
2	Would men be happier if they were asexual? I didn't get married until 36 and didn't have my first child till 37 (almost 38). Util then I was a lazy fuck. Or when I wasn't a lazy fuck I was chasing the wrong shit. It took me until about 36 to actually care about making a lot of $. Had someone convinced me that money/status actually helps a lot earlier. I probably would have acted different. My dad should have taken me to Ukraine when I was 24 and showed me what life was like in a better place. For romance anyway. US has a lot of advantage…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/25 03:37 AM
0	Would men be happier if they were asexual? Not at all. I didn't get married till 36 and didn't have my first kid till 38. If I had kids at 20-22. My first wife was pregnant when I was 21 but had an abortion. I'd be making 3 times more $ right now. Lots and lots of wasted time and just dumbassery between 20 and 35. I never felt the need to apply myself because I genuinely believed the whole "women are not attracted to status/money" thing. And I didn't have any children.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/25 02:57 AM
11	People on this sub don't understand what being in your Prime or the Wall actually means Right so is it really your peak then? When you tend to have better relationships a little bit later on. It's not like women have significantly less options at 27-30. If they stay in shape they can still get an avalanche of interest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/25 02:48 AM
-4	People on this sub don't understand what being in your Prime or the Wall actually means Nah it's just a statement of fact. Women decline in physical appearance and desirability rapidly after 35. There is no "and then they'll want me" attached to it. Men decline as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/25 12:06 AM
63	People on this sub don't understand what being in your Prime or the Wall actually means Here's an interesting counter point that my wife made. I was arguing with her saying that early 20s is by far the best time to find a husband. Because never again will you have such a large pool of men to choose from. No matter how good looking you are. You are never going to be better looking than you are in your early 20s. To which she replied "Sure but you don't know how to select men in your early 20s. The type of guys young women go for end up making terrible husbands. They are not good fat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/25 11:11 PM
3	People on this sub don't understand what being in your Prime or the Wall actually means 25 is way too young to talk about any kind of wall. The true wall is probably somewhere between 35-45 for most women. (depending on how well they have aged). It deals with fertility of course. Even post wall women can probably get more male attention than an average male ever can. Especially one's that were attractive pre-wall. Just the numbers massively dwindle and so does the quality of men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/25 11:09 PM
2	Would men be happier if they were asexual? No I think the instinct exists for that reason. Why we rationalize those things in our own heads can be quite different. You can make up whatever reason why you wanted to eat that pizza. But the instinct to eat exists because your body needs nourishment. The instinct to strive for achievement exists because a human needs to survive and for a male it is a viable way to attract higher quality mates. The conscious rationalization can be as dynamic as you want. They can have all sorts of personal re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/25 10:55 PM
5	Would men be happier if they were asexual? You also have to recognize what social status means. It doesn't necessarily mean a lot of $. It can be the hyper aggressive dude on the block. Who sells drugs and everyone is afraid of and respects. That is high class too. Yes some guys like that get really pretty girls. If you're an average looking guy. You want access to pretty girls. By far the best thing you can do is work on your status and money. That is something that a lot of males understand instinctively. For some strange reason we are…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/25 10:47 PM
14	Would men be happier if they were asexual? Low class men have unattractive women (unless they are good looking which most men are not). Men want attractive women. For most average looking guys the only way to secure and have that at your disposal to some degree of certainty. Is to have a lot of $ and status. On top of that the additional material benefits that come with it are nice. On top of that how much $ you have makes a big difference on how well you can take care of your children. Which is part of the same instinctual drive. And I …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/25 10:42 PM
26	Would men be happier if they were asexual? hahahahaaha. You really believe that? What are human females attracted to. A combiation of physical appearance, money and status. What does a president and ceo have loads of? Money and status. Men strive for money and status mostly to attract human females. Yes I know there are some women who think like men. And they really don't give a shit about your money/status. They just want a pretty boy or some version of what they find attractive. But that certainly was not the norm for most of history. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/25 10:33 PM
1	Submissive men and dominant women But he will die eventually. And if he fails to reproduce so will his entire genetic line. HIs personal one anyway. Submissive men typically have a very hard time attracting women. Because women don't want submissive guys. On average of course. So it is somewhat an existential issue as well. Maybe to a smaller degree.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/25 08:57 PM
2	Submissive men and dominant women Human nature. Submissive men are rare because human males are usually not the submissive one. It's just like gay men are rare. It happens but it's not the norm. Like trying to find a vegetarian tiger. It's just not in their nature.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/25 08:13 PM
2	In my country there's a saying that goes "If you want to catch more fish, you should ask the good fisherman for tips, not the fish". It's talking about picking up women, obviously. Right. Which is the point I was making to that guy. You're agreeing with me. Even if someone gives you some valid information. It will likely require a lot of effort on your end. So this whole "you're creating competition for yourself" like it's some business idea. Doesn't really apply here. Unless you live on some deserted island or in a tiny village with 1 attractive woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/25 08:24 PM
2	In my country there's a saying that goes "If you want to catch more fish, you should ask the good fisherman for tips, not the fish". It's talking about picking up women, obviously. I was just using that as an example. Even if I gave you some concrete and useful information. It's not something that would ever cause me to have "less competition". Simply because it likely takes a tremendous amount of effort from you and the likelyhood of you ever trying to hit on the same woman as me is astronomically low.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/25 08:20 PM
2	In my country there's a saying that goes "If you want to catch more fish, you should ask the good fisherman for tips, not the fish". It's talking about picking up women, obviously. You guys act like there is some magic potion. If you behave a specific way that will just make a woman cream for you. That's really not how it works. Most of the stuff that does work is shit like "get in the best shape of your life". Which takes a tremendous amount of effort. And not exactly a secret. The people on dating apps who are your competition. They are not applying some super secret algorithm. Some of them are just better looking or richer than you. Some of them have better social skill…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/25 08:13 PM
3	In my country there's a saying that goes "If you want to catch more fish, you should ask the good fisherman for tips, not the fish". It's talking about picking up women, obviously. Because most of it is not something that can be given away. I can tell you to lose 30lbs after I lost 30lbs and it worked for me. Does that information magically allow you to lose 30lbs without the massive amount of effort that goes into it. It's the same way for most other things. They are probably not trying to pull the same girls. Unless you guys live on a deserted island with a very limited supply. I am saying there are millions of women around the world. Suppose I had the perfect algorithm …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/25 08:09 PM
4	In my country there's a saying that goes "If you want to catch more fish, you should ask the good fisherman for tips, not the fish". It's talking about picking up women, obviously. Because it simply doesn't work that way. It's not like there is some hair style that every man can use that suddenly turns him into a Chad. Most of that stuff is very heavily reliant on the person themselves. One hair style will look great on one dude and terrible on another. And overall it makes a fairly small difference anyway. There is no magic potion to dating. Except for maybe Passport Broing. But there is so many millions of women across the globe that you're never really going to run out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/25 08:01 PM
2	In my country there's a saying that goes "If you want to catch more fish, you should ask the good fisherman for tips, not the fish". It's talking about picking up women, obviously. “Every guy that’s not in your crew is competition” after all. I don't think that applies to dating. It's not like some business idea where if you tell others you're suddenly going to be making scraps. It doesn't work like that. Not necessarily a stranger. But it doesn't have to be someone you know very well. Shit people online are often pretty useful if they are being objective. They have no reason to lie to you if they aren't selling you some shitlicking course.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/25 07:24 PM
3	In my country there's a saying that goes "If you want to catch more fish, you should ask the good fisherman for tips, not the fish". It's talking about picking up women, obviously. Right... So don't ask some asshole peddling a self help book. Ask someone who has no stake in it. That's common sense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/25 07:12 PM
-2	In my country there's a saying that goes "If you want to catch more fish, you should ask the good fisherman for tips, not the fish". It's talking about picking up women, obviously. Second, the chad/beta nonsense is the dumbest, most self defeating thing to get sucked into. In reality, tons of guys end up in relationships without being male models. You could too, if you weren't shooting yourself down from the start. It's very accurate though. Some guys have broad appeal and some guys don't. Knowing where you stand is very pragmatic. It's useless to pretend that you're some Chad that all women want if everything about your living experience tells you the exact opposite. Like…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/25 07:11 PM
4	In my country there's a saying that goes "If you want to catch more fish, you should ask the good fisherman for tips, not the fish". It's talking about picking up women, obviously. No. Just like asking gay guys what a man wants wouldn't work either. They are fundamentally attracted to different things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/25 07:08 PM
1	What guys really want Here's the problem with this logic. How do you actually know in this situation that the woman actually grew to like you and isn't just settling cause your the best option at the moment? At least with the woman who shows high attraction and interest off rip, settling isn't as much in question. Just look at how she's behaving. Unless you've never had anyone like you in your entire life. It's usually not rocket science. Sure but considering you can only marry one person, maybe the person you commit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/25 12:04 PM
3	What guys really want I disagree. I think what you're missing is that there are different levels of attraction. Which is what i was trying to explain with the young Jessica Alba example. It's not an on and off switch. Some people turn you on more than others. While a lot don't turn you on at all. So while I agree that it's not something that can be "negotiated". Because it's an instinctual reaction. It doesn't mean that it's always instant and always overwhelming.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/25 02:22 AM
2	What guys really want A far more reasonable take is that attraction isn't always instant for women. It's not always instant for men either. But it's usually quicker. Sometimes they like a guy right away. Sometimes it takes a little while. There are levels of attraction. A young Jessica Alba may completely sweep me off my feet to the point where I'm a nervous wreck just being around her. But that doesn't mean some chick a couple of points off Jessica Alba will not be able to satisfy me either. Someone who is still att…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/25 12:31 AM
1	CMV: Women don't care about money when looking for a partner. if you're ugly you gotta date ugly women. Which most men don't want to do.... But would you say that men can show other traits like money and status in photos? Clearly the guy wearing nice clothes on a vintage boat in Lake Como for his profile pic can show status much better than the gym selfie guy. Have you heard about the fact that a large % of instagram influencers rent expensive cars and go into fake looking airplanes to take pictures of them "travelling". It's no different from a fat woman …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/25 10:38 PM
1	CMV: Women don't care about money when looking for a partner. OK and did he say he was struggling? Like I said in another reply. For all we know he was already dating women in the top 10-20% range. It won't change much from there. It's hard to gauge without knowing anything about him. And no the fact that millions of people partner up in western countries doesn't tell us that women don't care about money and status. In fact one could argue that the reason the single rates for both women and men are rising sharply is due to the fact that women are starting …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/25 10:35 PM
1	CMV: Women don't care about money when looking for a partner. Ok so what does that prove? I'm happily married. I still find other women attractive. Some are even dare I say better looking than my wife. It's irrelevant. I'm never going to cheat on her. I'm never going to leave her. I enjoy having sex with her. You don't have to be the best looking guy on planet earth for a woman to pair bond with you. You just have to be sufficient in enough areas. Which usually means you need to NOT be ugly as fuck. But if you're average looking the best thing you can do i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/25 10:25 PM
1	CMV: Women don't care about money when looking for a partner. Most people are average looking. When it comes to "which average looking guy will get an attractive woman". It's usually the status and money that decides. If you're ugly that doesn't really apply to you. If you're good looking that also doesn't really apply to you. Though being both rich and handsome is a hell of a package. You conveniently ignore the part where I said "This is why online dating is such a sausage fest. Because not that many women choose on looks alone unlike most guys."	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/25 10:18 PM
1	CMV: Women don't care about money when looking for a partner. You and I don't know anything about the guy. For all we know he already dates attractive women. He didn't say "I still can't get women". And even if he did. Again you don't know anything about him. He may be ugly as fuck (sorry). He may have some neurodivergent traits. Who the fuck knows. When I talk about things I am talking about relative averages. If you have more money and status on average you will have a higher quality partner anywhere. Including the West. But if you go overseas your prosp…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/25 10:16 PM
1	CMV: Women don't care about money when looking for a partner. So your response is "yeah well he could do it if he wanted" ? That makes zero sense. He could be a sugar daddy. Is that what you mean? No I mean he could if he wanted to. I married a woman that I really liked. Perhaps I could have dated someone much younger while still living in Kyiv. But I am fine with what I have so I never had an urge to do that. Like I said it's almost like we are on different planets. I've went to many different conventions in Vegas as part of my previous career. I was alwa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/25 08:15 PM
1	CMV: Women don't care about money when looking for a partner. The average looking high paid CEO is not dating models. Just look up Mark Carney, new PM of Canada. He's also very rich and very successful. He's better looking than his wife. That doesn't mean he couldn't. For whatever reason he chose her. Go to some convention where wealthy men bring their wives. The disparity in physical appearance will jump out at you very quickly. or go walk around Kyiv or any other Eastern European capital. You also have to remember a lot of people pair up young then becom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/25 04:29 PM
1	CMV: Women don't care about money when looking for a partner. Right this is what we disagree about. You assume that attraction is 100% physical for both males and females. It certainly is for a high % of males. But for females it's compartmental. If you're not disgustingly ugly then having more money and status will make you more attractive. As highlighted by the study I posted in the first comment. So yes you do very much become more attractive by going overseas. You can date women much better looking than you. Something that is nearly impossible in a Wes…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/25 04:17 PM
1	CMV: Women don't care about money when looking for a partner. Try going overseas. You'll see what an immense difference money and status makes very quickly. Without knowing you specifically it's impossible to tell. Maybe you were already dating attractive women. You can't go much higher up then that. Or maybe you do have a giant red flag and don't realize it. Anecdotally I've lost 40 lbs before. And made a massive difference in my dating life. But not as massive as moving to Kyiv for 2 years. They both work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/25 11:46 AM
2	CMV: Women don't care about money when looking for a partner. I strongly disagree with that sentiment. I used to believe what you're saying too. To my detriment. Truth is. It's very difficult for us to empathize with how people select their partners. I know gay men exist. I've watched them live. But I still can't fathom how they can find a man attractive over a sexy ass woman. But just because I can't empathize with it. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist. How women perceive men sexually is also another one of those that's difficult to empathize. We think that i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/25 01:43 AM
3	CMV: Women don't care about money when looking for a partner. Personality is too vague. Also set in stone to some degree. What personality would you even chase? Social skills is very important. If I was ever giving dating advice I would definitely zero in on improving social skills highly underrated. And often when people say personality that is what they are talking about. Physical Appearance, Money and Status give you concrete things you need to chase.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/25 11:38 PM
3	CMV: Women don't care about money when looking for a partner. There was this fun study that showed men and women pictures of various individuals. Then they attached a salary underneath. And gauged how that would affect their evaluation of the persons physical appearance https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S109051381730315X We found that ratings of attractiveness were around 1000 times more sensitive to salary for females rating males, compared to males rating females. Not 2 times. Not 10 times. Not even 100 times. A THOUSAND TIMES. Men ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/25 10:35 PM
–	If women are naturally hypergamous, why do some women date poorer men? Love = Pair bonding The type of love a couple feel for each other. I'm surprised you're not able to put 2 and 2 together. If couples didn't love each other. It would be impossible for them to raise children together.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/25 07:42 PM
–	If women are naturally hypergamous, why do some women date poorer men? Unless you look at the entire planet and realize that every single society is built around the male and the female raising children together. Which is what pair bonding is and why it exists. To facilitate raising children. You'd have to find some oddball Amazon tribe to find a society that doesn't have mother and father raising kids. So yes if you ignore reality you can claim that pair bonding doesn't exist in humans. If you ignore our media. The endless amount of songs, videos, movies, tv shows…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/25 03:53 PM
–	If women are naturally hypergamous, why do some women date poorer men? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pair_bond sure scroll down to the human section. We also know its innate because it is so common in the animal kingdom.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/25 03:37 PM
–	If women are naturally hypergamous, why do some women date poorer men? I'm not using that as evidence. In the past your family determined whether you are nobility or not. How much value you could produce to society was very secondary. That is not something the Knights Tale made up. That is how it really was. If you were born a Noble. You were a noble even if you were mentally handicapped. If you were born a peasant. You would likely remain a peasant. Even if you were Albert Einstein.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/25 03:32 PM
–	If women are naturally hypergamous, why do some women date poorer men? No. Humans pair bond. When a couple is properly pair bonded (satisfied with each other to a degree). They are not likely to want to find a new partner. Some pair bonds are just not very good. For various reasons. This is where you see a lot of cheating and break ups. "Happily married" usually isn't going to cheat. On average anyway. Weird shit does happen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/25 03:17 PM
–	If women are naturally hypergamous, why do some women date poorer men? Yeah but true nobility doesn't exist. We are all one good business idea or even lucky business idea from joining the "nobility". Good luck joining the nobility 400 years ago. You better be real good at forging papers like that dude in the Knights Tale. That's the only way to move up a class in that world.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/25 03:16 PM
2	It's sad that women have been conditioned to be self serving and overly interested in men's money and resources. Not necessarily. Just means the tall preference is a bit overstated and can be easily overcome by other factors.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/25 05:07 PM
18	It's sad that women have been conditioned to be self serving and overly interested in men's money and resources. Even then. The reason you love your children unconditionally is because they are your seed. We're wired to deeply care about them because without them our genetics perish. So it's not really "unconditional".	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/25 05:06 PM
0	Men make women miserable. When given the choice, women will always walk away from men and be happily single. Men should realize this and live their lives accordingly. This is nonsense. From an evolutionary perspective humans do this thing called pair bond. This is called love and a bunch of other names. But it's just brain chemistry. There's a very important reason for this. Human babies are incredibly fragile relative to most other animal babies around the planet. Our children are born somewhat underdeveloped. Due to the massive size of our head relative to the size of the opening they are born out of. For reference a lot of animal babies start walking on da…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/25 11:08 PM
–	Do Married Women Lose Their ‘Value’ in Red Pill Thinking? Well of course. Some asexual ugly female surgeon has a ton of value to society. Surgery is complicated and most people don't have the patience or aptitude to learn how to do it. But this is a dating subreddit. When we talk about "value" we sort of assume that everyone knows we mean dating value.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/25 09:48 PM
–	Do Married Women Lose Their ‘Value’ in Red Pill Thinking? They don't either. She's married and completely off the market. She has no value but it's a good thing. Because she already got what you need that value for in the first place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/25 09:31 PM
–	I don’t understand why some men in the manosphere complain that men lose a lot in a divorce but also say they don’t care about a woman’s education, job, earnings etc You guys act like attraction is a choice. Yes I'm sure if guys could choose to be attracted to obese career oriented women they would be. Because that would make life a hell of a lot easier. But it just doesn't work that way. We don't care because we choose not to care. We are just wired that way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/25 11:25 AM
5	A dual mating strategy is used by people who feel desperate…But it is men who are more likely to feel desperate. Its really hard to read the way you write. With the bullet points. Difficult to follow your train of thought. Love is the variable that kind of defeats the entire argument. If you properly pair bond with a woman and have kids with her. That is incredibly valuable. There are rich men who are miserable with their lives because they never pair bonded. So that kind of goes against the whole "you don't get much in return". You absolutely do from a proper pairing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/25 03:05 AM
5	A dual mating strategy is used by people who feel desperate…But it is men who are more likely to feel desperate. Relationships offer no benefits at all Huh? You get constant access to sex. You get tons of affection. You properly pair bond with a person. You have children together. You raise your children together which produces much better adults. Your wife is often your best friend. This whole "relationships offer no benefits at all" is just mindblowing to me. A bad relationship sure. But a good relationship offers a fuckton. Probably more than you can get out of anything else in this world.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/25 02:18 AM
1	Alpha males and beta males don't exist Right my argument was that this whole idea that it's natural for women to seek semen from a better man and then pair up with a weaker man is utter nonsense. It wouldn't make any sense whatsoever in the wild. Where the man can just fucking kill you and probably get away with it. Where any man who finds you cheating on him is going to leave you and you'll be stuck raising the kid on your own. Yes sure women sometimes use "lesser men". Absolutely. Nobody is arguing otherwise. But it's not some "dat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/25 02:00 AM
3	Do you oppose or support men being able to legally cut ties with children not biologically their’s in the case of late stage paternity misattribution? There's the human factor. 99.5 and 99 may seem like a small difference. But we're talking about millions of genes here. That accounts to a fairly large difference. Just look at how varied 2 humans may be. Look at Danny Devito and compare him to Jason MoMoa. That is a difference between 99 and 99.5 similarity. The difference between your biologic child and some other child is quite gargantuan in our primordial brain.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/25 12:00 AM
1	Q4A: "If men did more [of women's thing] they would get more of [women's results]" - why do you think they don't? Both human males and human females are caring and nurturing towards their children. BUT females are more nurturing. Females are less likely to abandon their children. The key word is "more". Noone is saying males are never or not nurturing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/25 10:52 PM
1	Alpha males and beta males don't exist That sounds just like a bad relationship. AF/BB would imply that the guy takes care of the kids for many years. If she just dates him for a few months and then dumps him for another dude. That's typical relationship turnover.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/25 10:51 PM
0	Q4A: "If men did more [of women's thing] they would get more of [women's results]" - why do you think they don't? The answer is human nature. Males and females are just different biologically. Our brains are wired different. We think different. We look different. This was common knowledge for most of human history. Only recently has it become taboo to say this obvious truth. Males are less involved as parents (on average) because they are males. Females are just naturally more nurturing. Males don't give a shit about socioeconomic status. On average anyway. If she's hot we don't give a shit if she flips bur…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/25 11:35 AM
1	Alpha males and beta males don't exist Well if he's getting dumped. Then he's not taking care of the kids long term now is he..... You must be thinking of the young cohort. Where all sorts of flip flopping is more common in general. Kids or not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/25 11:29 AM
1	Alpha males and beta males don't exist Usually it's not from cheating. It's guys who take care of the first kid and sire more with the woman. That's not the same thing as AF/BB because the guys who are the provider are also procreating. Also many men died during the prehistoric times. So it wasn't unusual to change partners. Just like we do now. It's not necessarily evidence of some patterned innate scummy behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/25 11:01 PM
1	Alpha males and beta males don't exist I said "at scale". Yes some will pull it off. But most of the time you'll get caught cheating one way or another. Most cheaters get caught. There's a reason males are less interested in slutty women when it comes to long term relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/25 10:56 PM
4	Alpha males and beta males don't exist I disagree that females have more than one. The whole "get impregnated by Chad and have some normie raise my kids" would be impossible to pull off at scale in the prehistoric times. Maybe a small % of females operate this way. But the majority seek a high quality partner. The reason you often see women used up by Chads is because of the MALE #1 strategy which is to just fuck a bunch of women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/25 01:38 AM
5	Alpha males and beta males don't exist Males are the one with the dual mating strategy 1) fuck fuck fuck 2) Invest in one Females have but one 1) pair up with a high quality mate This idea that females will try to get semen from some high quality DNA male and then ensnare a lesser man to take care of them is totally illogical from an evolutionary perspective. It may work with primitive animals or primitive primates. That are almost completely incapable of abstract thought. But if you tried to do that at scale with human males. You'd …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/25 01:11 AM
3	Women are attracted to toxic men BECAUSE of their toxic traits, not despite them. Only in younger cohorts. For a lot of the same reasons. Guys with aggression and muscle to back it. Rise to the top of the social hierarchy in our high schools. Because our high schools are degenerate shitholes. A large % of them anyway.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/25 04:32 PM
2	Women are attracted to toxic men BECAUSE of their toxic traits, not despite them. I couldn't read that giant wall of text. But I read at least half of it. You have to understand that females select differently from men Males on average select based on physical appearance. Females on average select based on physical appearance, status and money. So when you go to the hood. With your well behaved nice ass. You're on the bottom of the social hierarchy. As thuggy drug dealers with aggressive behavior tend to be on the highest social stature. There's a reason most normal people ge…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/25 04:03 PM
2	The female orgasm is a myth The squirting stuff. They just find girls who are good at making themselves squirt. That is much easier then training some chick to piss at a very specific point. Yes I agree a large % of them are faking it. Kind of hard to get into sex when you have cameras all in your shit. Even if they think the guy is attractive. It just ruins the mood. Guys need Viagra too......	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/25 04:41 PM
–	For those who have dated a girl from a different culture before dating someone from your culture. Can you please answer my question.. Word to the wise. Hip Hop and R&B is very popular among the whiteys. Good music transcends race. I mean I wouldn't play any hardcore "I shot that motherfucker" type of rap in front of their parents. But other then that. This is not really something I would be too concerned with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/25 04:35 PM
1	The female orgasm is a myth So why do you figure women who are squirting are faking? Especially the ones who are not even fucking anyone. Who are fingering themselves. For the specific purpose of squirting... It would be harder to fake it then to actually orgasm.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/25 04:33 PM
-4	The female orgasm is a myth Do you think the guys with erect penises and which are ejaculating are faking it too?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/25 04:30 PM
-4	The female orgasm is a myth Yes but the videos of them squirting is not videos of women just pissing pretending to have an orgasm. They are actually orgasming. Do you think porn is reliable documentation to prove that men ejaculate? Or get an erect penis? In case we had some insane women who believed otherwise. I'd say so. It's video documentation of an event.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/25 04:21 PM
-2	The female orgasm is a myth Do they think all those squirting videos are just girls pissing or what? I mean even if you never done it yourself. You have some pretty reliable documentation (porno) that can prove your view wrong. I've never met anyone that believes that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/25 04:03 PM
0	I don’t understand why some men in the manosphere complain that men lose a lot in a divorce but also say they don’t care about a woman’s education, job, earnings etc We point it out because it does matter to women. Women include that in the "is he attractive" subconscious math. Not voluntarily. Just the way womens brains works. Men not so much. How hot you are depends solely on your physical appearance. Yeah sure if we have a choice between 2 attractive people we might choose the educated one. But that is just post hoc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/25 02:53 PM
-2	I don’t understand why some men in the manosphere complain that men lose a lot in a divorce but also say they don’t care about a woman’s education, job, earnings etc We say that career and education doesn't matter because it's a fact. You're either hot or not. Your education plays no role in that math. Men and women are different. We don't factor in outside factors all that much.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/25 01:43 AM
–	The reason women loathe the passportbro movement is because it threatens their position in the dating market If you come on a spousal visa. You get a green card as soon as you enter. If it's a fiance visa. It's a little different. But I believe you get a green card pretty fast there as well. As long as she doesn't dump his ass very fast. She's going to get the green card. Spousal visa is always the one recommended. Because they can work right away and have permanent residency right away. And then they have pretty much all the protections that a citizen would have.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/25 03:08 AM
–	The reason women loathe the passportbro movement is because it threatens their position in the dating market That's why there's alimony and child support. Believe it or not you're not the first person to ask these questions. Edit: Also don't forget. These are usually more attractive women. They come here to the West and they are very much wanted by many other men. So it's not like she is doomed to be single forever. If you break up with your husband you don't automatically lose your green card either. Especially if you have kids with the guy. So she can easily find another man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/25 03:02 AM
–	The reason women loathe the passportbro movement is because it threatens their position in the dating market would they have the same success finding women if they appeared to be an average man from that country? No they wouldn't. That's the whole gig. Their Western status and Western $ is what makes them far more attractive. Its just how humans select partners. Males mostly on looks. Females on a combo of looks, money and status. As long as you're not disgustingly ugly. Your Western Money and Western Status significantly improves your value as a man in the eyes of those women. Which often leads to rea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/25 01:45 AM
–	The reason women loathe the passportbro movement is because it threatens their position in the dating market They go there because males and females select differently. Human male (on average) selects primarily on physical appearance. Human female (on average) selects based on a combination of physical appearance, money and status. It's simple biologic arbitrage. Would be like a 350 lbs American woman getting on a plane to Colombia and then losing 200 lbs as soon as she gets off the plane. Thats the effect it has for a man. Except males are not particularly attracted to wealth and status so the passpor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/25 01:41 AM
–	The reason women loathe the passportbro movement is because it threatens their position in the dating market Oh brother. You guys have no idea what a real slave is. A woman who has a man who takes care of her is not a slave. Especially in the West when she can walk away whenever she damn well pleases. This is how humans are. Man provides. Woman nurtures. Has been this way for many 1000s of years. Until you start genetically engineering some other breed of humans. That will be the default and the preferred setup for our species.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/25 01:37 AM
–	The reason women loathe the passportbro movement is because it threatens their position in the dating market Yes https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S109051381730315X We found that ratings of attractiveness were around 1000 times more sensitive to salary for females rating males, compared to males rating females. About half of them are indeed just cunts who use people for green cards or just regular scammers and prostitutes. But the other half are just regular women who want a husband.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/25 01:32 AM
–	The reason women loathe the passportbro movement is because it threatens their position in the dating market Scientific experiments have shown that how much $ and status a man has. Has an effect on the overall evaluation of you as a man. Which means a lot of these girls ACTUALLY like the dude. Certainly not all of them. About 50% of them are scammers, thieves and users. But the other 50% is just regular women looking to partner up with a guy form higher status or $.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/25 01:30 AM
–	The reason women loathe the passportbro movement is because it threatens their position in the dating market Because they are not all gold diggers. About 50% of them are. It's on you to figure out which one is which. There are some guidelines you can use. Like don't meet girls in the club. Don't date strippers. If they have a big OF account or Instagram account probably not what you want. Look for girls who are in school or working. Real people not bimbos.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/25 01:28 AM
–	The reason women loathe the passportbro movement is because it threatens their position in the dating market It doesn't work in Miami. Those hoodrat girls don't want you. They want PrisonChad or Tyrone. Or they are fat as fuck or something. The good looking girls in the hood have plenty of options. The ugly girls in the hood you don't want. So it's pretty much the same as any other place in the West. The reason passport bro works is because your status and wealth increases tremendously relative to the rest of the population. That doesn't happen in some hood in Miami.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/25 01:25 AM
19	“You cant love someone until you love yourself” is a lie. But you’re right, a relationship never fixes things like mental health issues. I disagree wholeheartedly. I haven't touched a single drug in 4 years. I have not smoked anything in almost 3 years. I haven't even drank in over 2 years. Why? Because I got married and had kids. That degenerate lifestyle just doesn't appeal to me anymore as I have more important things that require long term commitment. It will sometimes fix things like mental health issues. And sometimes it will not. It works partic…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/25 11:33 AM
3	If you have to chase a woman, you've already lost. I disagree. Ask any genuinely hot chick how many guys are trying to get with her. It's usually 10+ at any given time. And that's just the 10+ they responded to. Probably 100s of other they brushed off.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/25 04:15 PM
4	If you have to chase a woman, you've already lost. I don't agree. If you're chasing sought after women. You're likely not the only guy chasing her. You may not even be the only guy she likes chasing her. If you just play passive. The more ambitious guys will take your cookie. It's just how the world works. You can't bank on being the best option every time. That only works if you're chasing whales.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/25 11:55 PM
1	Status and wealth as indicators of attraction is the ultimate cope For what? One night stands? Or long term relationships? Most women don't even like one night stands. Also your categorization is way off. It's really Hot Average Unattractive It's important because most guys are neither ugly or "hot". They are somewhere in the average range. A hot guy will obviously do even better if he's rich. An average looking guy can make an enormous difference in his luck with ladies with wealth and status. Ugly guys tend to suffer regardless. Unless they are capable of fin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/25 12:17 AM
1	Status and wealth as indicators of attraction is the ultimate cope Right which is the core of this argument. Do women actually find wealth and status attractive. Or are they all just acting like a bunch of useless worthless disgusting hookers. Science tends to believe that women actually do favor men with status and wealth at an innate level. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S109051381730315X Doesn't mean that taping $100 to your body will make you look like a Chad. More like "you are more likely to find a long term partner who is satisfied…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 11:21 PM
2	Status and wealth as indicators of attraction is the ultimate cope I assure you that man has no problem finding an abundance of willing partners.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 10:35 PM
17	Status and wealth as indicators of attraction is the ultimate cope They've done studies on this. This is just one of many https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S109051381730315X We found that ratings of attractiveness were around 1000 times more sensitive to salary for females rating males, compared to males rating females. They showed men and women pictures of various opposite sex members. With a salary undernearth. Women were 1000 times more sensitive to this information with their ratings. A THOUSAND!!! Not 10, not even 100. A fucking 1000. M…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 10:13 PM
5	Status and wealth as indicators of attraction is the ultimate cope He has like 13 children. So in practice he is very successful with his pee pee. And that's on top of him having Asperghers. His mannerisms are ordinarily a huge turn off for women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 10:05 PM
5	The Red Pills Critique of Hedonism: Understanding the Roots If someone genuinely enjoys open relationships. Calling them a cuck shouldn't be a big deal. After all I don't give a fuck when gay people call me a "breeder". The problem is a % of men who are in those relationships were forced into it by their female partner. Calling them a cuck is fighting words. Because they are already deeply insecure about the whole thing. But then you have to ask yourself. What is the bigger problem here? That you call him a cuck or that he is in a miserable relationship.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 06:06 PM
–	Patriarchy is genetic Teen pregnancies go against human biology and come with high risks of complications like preterm birth, low birth weight, and health issues for both the mother and baby. But that doesn't change the fact that if you have sex without protection you are far more likely to get pregnant. Condoms reduce the likelyhood by like 99% or something. We're just talking about how the real world is. Whether you like it or not. Prehistoric teenagers had lots of sex just like we did. But theirs were way more lik…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 05:59 PM
–	Patriarchy is genetic Division of labor by ability doesn't necessitate oppression, restriction/denial of rights by sex, and treating women as property Fertility was a big issue for most societies of the past. Maybe they tried the whole "let women do whatever they want" and proceeded to get conquered by more traditional cultures. As soon as their fertility went to shit and they became severely weakened as a result. Culture much like species go through a survival of the fittest mechanism. If your mechanism is broken. W…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 05:57 PM
–	Patriarchy is genetic It's much weaker than it used to be. Practically irrelevant. Used to be that only men could hold many different positions throughout society. Nowadays any job that women can do they are already doing. There are some aspects that still exist. Likely due to our innate biology more so than anything else. Relatively speaking you might as well say it doesn't exist anymore.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 05:28 PM
–	Patriarchy is genetic Yes because our technology has massively changed. A little 100lbs woman with a gun can kill dozens of steroid pumping MMA fighters. That was not the case for most of human history. Saudi Arabia is somewhat unique as a large % of their GDP comes directly from the ground. They can afford to do a lot of inefficient and ineffective shit that other economies would get severely penalized for. Nevertheless as they modernize their economy so are they removing a lot of the old restrictions on women. Just…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 05:12 PM
–	Patriarchy is genetic Think about how much sex High School students have (mostly with each other). In the past a large % of those copulations would produce offspring. Nowadays they use condoms. There is a large chunk of your fertility reduction right there. College students also fuck a tremendous amount. Also very frequently use contraception. All of those copulations previously could produce pregnancies. Yes but understanding natural roles goes A LONG WAY towards understanding dating dynamics. Which is why it is so …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 04:56 PM
–	Patriarchy is genetic But why is that even worth saying? We're talking about people in the past. You want to go back in time and tell them not to oppress each other? Good luck with that. Being stronger makes it easier for you to oppress people. That is a very simple fact. We have no control over what people in the past did. So saying "well maybe they shouldn't be doing that" is completely useless.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 04:33 PM
–	Patriarchy is genetic Finally, groups of people fighting each other has nothing to do with a society subjugating half of its own population based on sex Subjugation and having clearly defined roles based on sex are very different things. Obviously humans are sexually dimorphic. Thus it makes sense to have different roles for each. Patriarchy is a natural order not a "subjugation".	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 04:31 PM
–	Patriarchy is genetic It happened that way in every single society. Even when they were separated by oceans on different continents. Even when they had no contact with each other. So yeah you can pretend it could have happened otherwise. But in practice this is the natural order of things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 04:27 PM
–	Patriarchy is genetic Fertility rates drop when access to contraceptives improves. We're still fucking just as much as we did back in the day. But it's producing far less pregnancies. If anything we may be fucking more. Yes it is the more "natural role". But it also evolved in a very different environment. Humans are just apes running around in a forest. Who happen to be living in mega advanced cities. We still behave as if we're back in the forest in many different ways.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 04:16 PM
–	Patriarchy is genetic Patriarchy is just a natural result of sexual dimorphism. That would be a more correct way to frame it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 04:12 PM
–	Patriarchy is genetic Hierarchies did exist, Are you serious? Everything in recorded history of pretty every much every tribe. Has very robust hierarchies. Often far more static than what we see today. Humans are naturally hierarchial. So are our primate cousins. The human hierarchies are often quite dynamic and very complex. More complex than other ape species. But to say that we didn't have hierarchies is just ahistorical mumbo jumbo.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 04:04 PM
–	Patriarchy is genetic Again not at all. Just because males are stronger and more dominant by nature. Doesn't mean women don't want to make more $, have better more important positions, have higher social status and generally do more engaging tasks. The two are not mutually exclusive. Lebron James is genetically much better than me at basketball. Doesn't mean I don't play basketball or even work on my game.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 03:55 PM
–	Patriarchy is genetic Not at all. Feminism sprung up when women finally started to enter the workplace and thus had some $ behind their voices. It was also quite pragmatic. As the more choices you give women in terms of profession. The more prosperous your economy becomes. One female surgeon produces more value than 100 simple male day laborers. Having women in higher positions is very beneficial for the economy. This is why despite horrific fertility rates nobody is seriously considering removing women from the work…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 03:50 PM
–	Patriarchy is genetic This is just post-hoc rationalization based on nothing but the fact that history is a collection of sequential events. None of this was inevitable, it's just the way it happened. Men dominated society for nearly all of recorded history. For one very simple reason. Physical strength. Matriarchal societies were exceedingly rare. Just like the male lion tends to be the leader of the pack. And the female hyena for that matter (females are stronger than males in hyenas). Same goes for the human anima…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 03:44 PM
–	Patriarchy is genetic Pre-agricultural societies were ruthlessly aggressive towards each other. Kind of like the chimp wars we see in the wild. They were also deeply hierarchical. The idea that they didn't have hierarchies is total nonsense. If anything they had way more hierarchies based on all sorts of religious and superstitious bullshit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 03:42 PM
–	Patriarchy is genetic Masculine traits being attractive is the key factor here. Obviously when you are more powerful it is easier for you to oppress people. Whether you do or do not is an entirely different matter.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 03:34 PM
–	The common retort of “let women be delusional it only hurts them” is disingenuous and ignores the very real implications of hypergamy and inflated standards Assigning blame for people behaving how they are biologically programmed is fucking stupid. I see a lot of people merely attempting to understand why it is occuring. Without assigning blame to anyone. But yes I also see a lot of buffoons whinning about women this and women that. Never been on board with that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 02:37 PM
–	The common retort of “let women be delusional it only hurts them” is disingenuous and ignores the very real implications of hypergamy and inflated standards A lot of it is we're no longer teaching people about human nature. We used to tell fat women. "If Chad gives you the time of day. It's probably because he is just horny and looking for a quick nutt. He's not going to date you". It's not always true. But more often then not. Because males are the one's with the dual mating strategy. 1) Fuck a lot 2) Invest in one and build a relationship with her. Both work for us. Now most of us will only "fuck a lot" with women we are attracted to. But some Cha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 03:08 AM
–	The common retort of “let women be delusional it only hurts them” is disingenuous and ignores the very real implications of hypergamy and inflated standards You're way overcomplicating it. In general people go for the best option available under the circumstances. You're just hyper fixating on the "under the circumstances" part. Yes if some 7/10 is saying "I can't wait to suck your dick all night long" and some 10/10 is saying "I can't wait to max out your credit card". You may just got home with the 7. She's still plenty attractive but also a lot more fun and useful to boot. That makes her the "best" option under the circumstances. Even if the 10/1…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 02:57 AM
–	The common retort of “let women be delusional it only hurts them” is disingenuous and ignores the very real implications of hypergamy and inflated standards What does "the best" even mean? Best looking? Smartest? Most fun? Whatever that "the best" means. That is what people tend to choose.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 02:39 AM
–	The common retort of “let women be delusional it only hurts them” is disingenuous and ignores the very real implications of hypergamy and inflated standards But neither is going to happen. Women are not going to stop fucking hotter guys. As long as they can. Guys are not going to stop using women for sex. As long as they can. It's just human nature. The only way to get in the way of that is to introduce draconian measures. Which I doubt anyone in this subreddit really wants.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 02:37 AM
3	What motivates you to be monogamous vs ENM? Humans tend to pair bond. Which involves jealousy and exclusivity. SOME PEOPLE are ok with their partners and themselves sleeping around. In swinger or "open" type relationships. In fact they even thrive under those circumstances. But most people will not and will hate that arrangement. It's just like some people are gay and like different things from you. Some people enjoy sleeping around and are fine with their partners doing the same. It feels very foreign to me and a lot of people I know. Bu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/25 09:20 PM
1	Hypergamy/women's nature falsely seen as the problem with online dating Reply #2 Ahh ok I see what you mean by "preselection". Yes women tend to be a little bit more hive minded in their mate choices. This is likely due to women being more kin about being part of the "in group". Evolutionary speaking being part of the "out group" could spell death for a pregnant woman. Without support from neither the father or the community. It would be nearly impossible for her to give birth and care for the child in infancy. So yes they tend to care a lot more about what the rest…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/25 05:34 PM
1	Men don't care much about women's socioeconomic status, though if given the option may even make the effort to go for lower socioeconomic women Or he was in college and constantly around women who attend college. Hardly a surprise he pairs up with someone who is in college.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/25 05:28 PM
1	Hypergamy/women's nature falsely seen as the problem with online dating What does preselection mean within this context? Men share women "across time" all the time. If what you mean is you date some chick after she breaks up with her boyfriend. Very few men will not date an attractive woman if she happened to have a boyfriend before her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/25 05:27 PM
1	Where did the whole “women love bad boys” thing even come from? How true do you think it is? Deebo from Friday. Google it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/25 02:58 PM
13	Where did the whole “women love bad boys” thing even come from? How true do you think it is? It deals with the core tenet that On average males are attracted to physical appearance On average females are attracted to a combination of physical appearance, money and status. Those "bad boys" are often quite large and powerful. They command a lot of respect in their environment. They have "status" and if they are selling drugs or doing other crime might have more $ than a lot of the guys trying to holla at her. So it's not really surprising when looking at it from that angle. In certain env…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/25 10:00 PM
2	Hypergamy/women's nature falsely seen as the problem with online dating unlike women being fine with sharing men. Most women are not fine with sharing men either. Not sure where you get that idea. If an average looking dude. Suddenly got transformed into a 10/10 Chad and had endless options. He would A) Fuck a bunch of attractive women. B) Marry one of the good ones Which incidentally is the dual mating strategy for a male. Most of us just never really get to do A because you need to be at least somewhat high value (or super low standards) to accomplish that. I imag…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/25 09:33 PM
2	Hypergamy/women's nature falsely seen as the problem with online dating Yes I actually talked to a bunch of my wifes friends. The same story over and over. "I met some guys but everyone was so fucking weird and creepy". So they just stop using it. Some women enjoy it. A lot of them don't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/25 07:12 PM
1	Hypergamy/women's nature falsely seen as the problem with online dating I grew up in US. Culture only matters for the very religious kind over here. Otherwise most people are more or less the same culture.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/25 06:53 PM
23	Hypergamy/women's nature falsely seen as the problem with online dating The proper advice to give men is "Try online dating. If it works great. If it doesn't just stop using it, it doesn't work for most guys you're not alone. Don't take the information to heart because most guys don't have any luck on those things. Even if they can find quality partners using other methods". Regarding WHY online dating sucks. The primary reason is... They are almost always sausage fests. So of course women will pick out the top guys. Men would do that too if they had such a vast arr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/25 06:21 PM
1	Nice Guys want shallow women because theyre the easiest to fuck. Otherwise, they wouldnt care assholes get these women. You just proved that ‘pair bonding’ was in fact bullshit. Not at all. If you are wanted by a lot of women. You have a much bigger pool of potential partners. You can find yourself a high quality woman to pair bond with. Not sure why that logic escapes you. They admitted it they thought “like” automatically meant “will instantly fuck”. I did a post on this. Maybe when they were children and their mama kept telling them that. Doesn't take long in the real world to figure out it was all a load of h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/25 06:01 PM
1	Nice Guys want shallow women because theyre the easiest to fuck. Otherwise, they wouldnt care assholes get these women. Because they thought niceness made women horny. It was never about ‘pair bonding’. They just say that because they know how bad it looks to admit they want to be fuckboys. I don't think anyone ever actually believed that. The conversation usually goes something like this Redpiller: I can't get women. Bluepiller: Maybe you should try treating them like humans. Redpiller: Yeah because PrisonChad and Tyrone who has 5 different hotties waiting for them to get out of prison for the umpteenth time are…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/25 05:49 PM
4	Nice Guys want shallow women because theyre the easiest to fuck. Otherwise, they wouldnt care assholes get these women. Why do they only notice attractive women with the assholes, then? They notice all attractive women... In certain contexts they may only mention those. Then why are guys here so angry at single moms….unless even the single moms said no and that hurts men’s pride to know even the ‘low class’ women have higher standards. Angry? Maybe more like judgmental towards them. They see it as a sign of poor decision making. Which may or may not always be appropriate. As I said, “ Thing is, these so called Ni…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/25 05:16 PM
8	Nice Guys want shallow women because theyre the easiest to fuck. Otherwise, they wouldnt care assholes get these women. What was that youtube short about? It was some super fat chick marrying a not quite as fat dude.... The hell that got to do with anything? Nice guys want attractive women. They don't give a fuck if they are shallow or not. None of that shit matters. The easiest women to fuck are drug addicts, desperate single mothers and crazy women. Because you have less competition there. As far as why men complain about attractive assholes getting women. They just see it as unfair. A lot of them probably real…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/25 04:52 PM
–	Why do fat women who don't exercise try to date fit men? thick/curvy vs obese is quite a big distinction. The fatter you are the more sex appeal you lose. If some 8/10 chick starts to gain weight. She'll probably still look good for a while. So if you see a cute chick who is a bit on the overweight side. Chances are she would be even better looking if she lost weight. Which is usually the message anyway "if you're fat and having trouble dating, lose the weight".	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/25 01:21 PM
–	Why do fat women who don't exercise try to date fit men? Except I have been in many different groups of men. We all talk this way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/25 01:20 PM
1	Why do fat women who don't exercise try to date fit men? Probably still pretty small proportionally.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/25 02:00 AM
–	Why do fat women who don't exercise try to date fit men? Maybe in the black communities.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/25 01:52 AM
-5	Why do fat women who don't exercise try to date fit men? I'm not angry at women. I am happily married with kids. I aim to be as close to the real world as possible. What you're saying is just idealized nonsense. How you wish things were. Not how they really are. I don't know what kind of guys you've been around. Who don't talk about women's asses and tits and what not. Granted I went to school in the late 1990s and early 2000s. Maybe you guys have all lost your testosterone due to video games and bating I dunno.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/25 12:59 AM
-1	Why do fat women who don't exercise try to date fit men? Yes that is what I have observed. If you're a fat woman 90% of men won't even want to fuck you. And of the 10% that will only 2% will actually genuinely enjoy it. Not surprising that such a large % of fat women complain about their dating life. Hard to have a good dating life when most of the people you want have no earthly interest in you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/25 12:55 AM
-5	Why do fat women who don't exercise try to date fit men? Actually, most guys aren't shitty people like that. The degrading way that you're talking about women here is a psychological defense mechanism and bonding activity engaged in by RedPill men, not something common to men generally: Have you ever had male friends? lol this is how we all talk Actually no in your very next way too long quote. They mention that guys do indeed talk this way. But yeah like I said in another reply. 8% of men will fuck fat women cause they are dumpster divers. 2% of men …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/25 12:50 AM
2	Why do fat women who don't exercise try to date fit men? That's the same # I came up with. Except I drilled it down to 8% of them were dumpster divers (as in not really into them, but will take what they can get) and the other 2% legit chubby chasers. Fine if you want to be all semantic about it. There are things that a large % of people find attractive and things that a large % of people find disgusting. Sure there are odd balls in every category. The last thing you want to do is tell a fat woman (or man for that matter) that being fat is not a probl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/25 12:37 AM
3	Why do fat women who don't exercise try to date fit men? In my experience the % of men who truly like fat women is quite small. Maybe as low as 2%. There is another 8% or so of men who will fuck and even sometimes date fat women. But they are just dumpster divers. They would much rather date more attractive women. However they are capable of getting their pecker hard for those most of us have no interest in. Though in my experience they treat those women like absolute shit because of how easy it is to replace them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/25 12:13 AM
2	Why do fat women who don't exercise try to date fit men? There is a ton of commonality though. You show 1,000,000 guys a picture of Jessica Alba and Honey Boo Boos mother. I'd be surprised if 1000 pick Honey Boo Boos mother over Jessica Alba. Certain things are universally attractive. Certain things are universally disgusting. Sure there is variation. As with anything in life. But not really as much as a lot of people make it out to be.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/25 12:10 AM
1	Men don't care much about women's socioeconomic status, though if given the option may even make the effort to go for lower socioeconomic women Women also get immediately attracted to hot people, and feel either an intrinsic want to bone them right then, or (depending on her personality) to get to know them well and if they like them, THEN bone them. I have no doubt that happens. But in my conversations with women I found it is far less frequent and far less pronounced for them. I would tell a girl "I can walk down a University road and literally see 50 different women I'd have no problem boning". And they would say while that can also …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/25 09:40 PM
1	Sex Isn’t Special—You Just Think It Is Who cares about our judgement of it. Obviously I don't think pedophilia or incest are good for society. It's not about judgement. It's about understanding our nature. Once you have a clear picture of what a human being really is. You can make better choices especially when it comes to laws and customs. If we tried to pretend that humans are perfect little angels and we don't need police and prisons. We'd find ourselves living in a miserable crime infested shithole. Because as it turns out humans…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/25 06:54 PM
0	Sex Isn’t Special—You Just Think It Is That's only because you're interpreting it incorrectly. I can stick a person in solitary confinement. They will survive just fine. But live miserable lives and develop serious psychological issues. Noone actually wants to live like that. Sex and more importantly pair bonding with intimacy. Work exactly the same way. You won't die. But you'll suffer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/25 12:43 PM
0	Sex Isn’t Special—You Just Think It Is No its not a "subjective opinion". It's psychology. Simple human psychology. The fact that you are not bothered by it. Doesn't mean the average person is not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/25 09:01 PM
0	Sex Isn’t Special—You Just Think It Is You probably either have a very low sex drive or are asexual. Also these are statements about average people. I'm sure there are people who would be perfectly happy living in solitary confinement as well. But those are outliers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/25 08:49 PM
0	Sex Isn’t Special—You Just Think It Is Yes I agree. It's the pair bonding that we really need. But to say it's no big deal and you can live just fine without it. Is just plain wrong. The argument isn't that you will die without it. It's that as long as you don't have it you will seek and crave it. The same way we seek and crave food.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/25 05:35 PM
4	Sex Isn’t Special—You Just Think It Is Yes. But all animals place a ton of emphasis on it. We're no different. Both physically and psychologically. The biggest difference between us and them is that we're good at post-hoc rationalizing our behavior. We don't like thinking that we're doing everything instinctually. Even though sexuality is VERY VERY instinctual.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/25 05:16 PM
2	Sex Isn’t Special—You Just Think It Is Try not eating for a few days. See how well your "higher mental capacity" handles the hunger pangs. You are an animal. Whether you like it or not. We're slightly smarter than our primate cousins. That is all. Do we not have those things now? I was explaining why it was very pragmatic to be prude. People 200+ years ago liked fucking just as much as we did. But allowing a free fuck fest would be catastrophic. They did that shit despite fertility issues being a top concern in many generations.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/25 05:14 PM
3	Sex Isn’t Special—You Just Think It Is The brain perceives it as a need. Doesn't matter if it will kill you or not. If you don't have it. It will make you feel like shit. A good example is people who get stuck in deserted islands or get stuck in solitary confinement for a long time. They always have major psychiatric issues. Yes technically you can survive like that. But nobody would want to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/25 05:09 PM
19	Sex Isn’t Special—You Just Think It Is It only holds as much value as people choose to give it Nonsense. We are mammals. Animals. Every creature assigns great value to sex. For an obvious reason. Without that the species goes extinct. Try not eating for 2 days. See how much of a choice your hunger pangs are. Lack of pair bonding and sexual intimacy works the same way just with a different timeline. And let’s be real—sex isn’t even a moral issue. Unlike theft, murder, or assault, it doesn’t inherently harm anyone. People attach meanin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/25 03:09 PM
1	Q4M: How would you price this bangmaid subscription service? You can't remove that from the equation. You can look at current prices. But they come from a place of a lot of artificial scarcity. As of right now you can easily charge $1000-3000 for a service like this. But if you removed the artificial scarcity it may be as low as $500-1000.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/25 01:51 AM
1	Q4M: How would you price this bangmaid subscription service? That's the nature of dating. Some people get fucked over. Happens to both males and females. Most people go through life having done both at some point. Fuck someone over and get fucked over by someone else. Only the lucky few who met their wife/husband in high school or early in college or some shit. Don't suffer through all that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/25 12:07 AM
1	Men don't care much about women's socioeconomic status, though if given the option may even make the effort to go for lower socioeconomic women I went to University for 2 years. It wasn't that different from High School. Just memorize, regurgitate and forget. The only difference between that and high school was that the volume of shit you had to memorize was significantly higher. I heard it gets better for many degrees once you get to 3rd year. But I never got that far. Still though. Just being able to memorize shit doesn't automatically mean you're "smarter". Being able to use that information in a productive manner is far more importa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/25 09:42 PM
4	Q4M: How would you price this bangmaid subscription service? I imagine a lot of it has to do with how the marriage is arranged. Often the parents do the arranging and they don't exactly want you to marry some sack of shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/25 09:35 PM
1	Men don't care much about women's socioeconomic status, though if given the option may even make the effort to go for lower socioeconomic women Women are a little different. Women do get horny. Quite a lot. But it's often for their BOYFRIEND. Yes money alone is not going to make you hot. Trying a bunch of $100 to your ass like some peacock. Isn't going to make you more attractive. But having more money and status DOES MAKE YOU MORE APPEALING as boyfriend material. So indirectly it does work that way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/25 08:55 PM
2	Men don't care much about women's socioeconomic status, though if given the option may even make the effort to go for lower socioeconomic women I never said it doesn't happen. If she's a larger woman perhaps he was much better looking than her. Fat women have very low broad appeal. Yes that's what I meant by "understand consciously". Those are all things to consider once you're already attracted to a person. It plays no role on whether you find them attractive though. And since most guys don't really have a ton of attractive options. Those things tend to be ignored (perhaps foolishly).	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/25 06:25 PM
1	Men don't care much about women's socioeconomic status, though if given the option may even make the effort to go for lower socioeconomic women Well... yes I can see how it may come across like that. But there's a point to my rude tone. Guys have balls. We behave differently because we have testosterone. It almost feels like people on reddit pretend like men have stopped having testosterone and now behave like chicks. Maybe some do. But I imagine the average guy is still behaving like a guy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/25 06:03 PM
2	Men don't care much about women's socioeconomic status, though if given the option may even make the effort to go for lower socioeconomic women They go hand in hand. Men want to date women who give them boners. A woman with high socieconomic status who doesn't give you a boner. May as well be a dude in that frame.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/25 06:01 PM
1	Men don't care much about women's socioeconomic status, though if given the option may even make the effort to go for lower socioeconomic women The point I am making is that we don't need socieconomic status information to feel an attraction. Yes if you're a really good looking guy. Plenty of women will feel an attraction towards you regardless of whether you're a surgeon or a fry cook. But most men can significantly improve their "likeability" by having more money/status than the woman. With women. Having more money/status has almost no effect. In some ways it can actually work against a woman because once she is making $100,000 a year…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/25 05:56 PM
4	Men don't care much about women's socioeconomic status, though if given the option may even make the effort to go for lower socioeconomic women I mean if she's a 10/10.... Unless she's fucking insane or has some serious psycho baby daddy issues. Yeah most guys would probably wife her. We're talking 10/10 though. That's a very rare and extremely appealing kind of person. The better looking you are the more you get away with. The real difference is.... Males are not going to add her socieconomic status in that 10/10 5/10 or whatever/10 evaluation. It's not what turns us on. UNLIKE women. Who do figure in that information. Her socieconomic…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/25 05:50 PM
-3	Men don't care much about women's socioeconomic status, though if given the option may even make the effort to go for lower socioeconomic women I mean seriously. You've never sat at a bar on some beach. With a group of guys drinking. Some hot chick walks but and you all oogle her. That's never happened to you? You guys ask her what her socieconomic status was before you oogle her? Or are you males with fucking BALLS and thus could give 2 shits about that extraneous unnecessary information.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/25 05:39 PM
-1	Men don't care much about women's socioeconomic status, though if given the option may even make the effort to go for lower socioeconomic women This isn’t based on anything. At best, it’s hyperbole. In reality, you don’t know anything about me or the next man to say what we will or won’t do in this case. I've had plenty of male friends. Can't think of one that would remotely give a shit. We'd all want to tap that. You see some hot latina on the strip in Miami beach. I'm not asking her for her income for my pecker to want to bone her. A 10/10 Latina in the hood, while admittedly no less physically attractive, is not a viable option. Only…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/25 05:30 PM
3	Men don't care much about women's socioeconomic status, though if given the option may even make the effort to go for lower socioeconomic women Think about what you're saying. He was dating some lower class chick. Someone he liked. Someone he was attracted to. And it took the force of a patriarch to get him to leave her. Which he had to comply with because chances are his inheritance was on the line. This does more to prove that MEN DO NOT GIVE A SHIT. His dad gave a shit. But his dad is not the one fucking her. It's not that different from some mother not wanting her daughter to date some Chad thug. Even if he is good looking.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/25 05:19 PM
-1	Men don't care much about women's socioeconomic status, though if given the option may even make the effort to go for lower socioeconomic women Actually you can find plenty of educated women who's IQ is in the mid 90s. Because our curriculums have been getting watered down with every generation. And plenty of 110+ IQ women without any education whatsoever. Just cause they never bothered with that shit. Yes on average the educated girl will have a higher IQ. But by far not always. Just cause someone memorized a bunch of bullshit and regurgitated it on some test 500 times. Doesn't mean they are automatically "better at conversation".	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/25 05:16 PM
1	Men don't care much about women's socioeconomic status, though if given the option may even make the effort to go for lower socioeconomic women We’re actively avoiding dating down by going out of our way to ensure proximity to women who are similar to us. It's not how male attraction switches work. If you go to the hood and see a banging latina woman 10/10. Unless she behaves mentally handicapped. You're not going to give a fuck that she is poor. That's not going to somehow make her less attractive. Males really don't care that much about socieoconomic status in what turns us on. We understand consciously that a woman that makes more $ …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/25 05:07 PM
3	Q4M: How would you price this bangmaid subscription service? The big question is... is it legal? Because that is a major reason why escort services are as insanely priced as they are. They are extremely scarce due to the law enforcement factor. Even in places like Nevada where it is legal in some counties. The prices are jacked way up because people come from all over to generate demand for the service.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/25 04:54 PM
13	Q4M: How would you price this bangmaid subscription service? Yeah but it's hollow as fuck. What you guys call "beta bux" is just how average men have been pairing up for 1000s of years. They end up in a pair bonded couple often with the same level of intimacy and bond that you would get if you were some good looking guy who instantly sweeped her off her feet. The only difference is the beginning of the relationship. A prostitute can not replace a pair bonded relationship. You'll never spend all your time with her. You will never have children with her. It…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/25 04:53 PM
7	Fix for dating and loneliness lies in valuing happy singledom (mostly for men) Oh brother. You can technically learn to live life without electricity, plumbing, internet or quality housing. Under a bridge somewhere. But nobody wants to live like that. There are 2 types of guys 1) Ones that are perfectly fine being alone 2) Guys who need a pair bonding relationship to fill fulfilled And it's innate not learned. #1 you're never going to hear from them. Cause they probably don't give a shit anyway. #2 your advice is completely useless to them. Cause its no different than tell…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/25 02:29 PM
8	You Can Never Trust a Woman Who Doesn't Have Intense Lust for You Nearly Immediately Not quite. A better way to think about it is "men are mostly attracted to physical appearance while women are more into the package as a whole". Which is why you get so much confusion with fat women talking about "I got a law degree and I'm funny" and blah blah. And men wonder why that information is even relevant. Because men don't evaluate on shit like that and women do. The reason happens due to biology. Females always get pregnant. So they always know who the parent is and in most cases get …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/25 09:42 PM
2	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb At the end of the day. I spent I dunno between 12 and 35 years old adhering to the "nurture side of things" ideas about dating. And it was FUCKING USELESS. Around 36 years old I started to look at things from a more nature perspective. And it made so much more sense right away. What you actually need to do and why was far clearer. The nurture explanations are just not that useful. That's all it is. I'm married with kids. All this shit is behind me. Even if someone convinced me of something it wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/25 06:35 PM
10	You Can Never Trust a Woman Who Doesn't Have Intense Lust for You Nearly Immediately Males and females are fundamentally different in that regard. Males can literally just look at a woman without knowing anything about her and know if they want to fuck her. For a woman to look at a guy the same way he better be damn good looking. Otherwise she will want to know more about him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/25 05:58 PM
26	You Can Never Trust a Woman Who Doesn't Have Intense Lust for You Nearly Immediately This is akin to saying. "If they don't offer you $500,000 remote work at home during whatever hours you want". Dump that job and immediately look for another. That is great and all. If you can manage to find a $500k a year remote job that doesn't micromanage your hours. That is fantastic. But it's not reality for most humans. Finding some woman who is instantly lusting for you and also happens to be a good potential life partner for you. Is not very common for men either. People following your a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/25 05:25 PM
1	The Age Gap "Issue" Is a Modern Invention I imagine even back then people were disgusted by that practice. It's not even practical. A female that is not fully mature is far more likely to have a miscarriage or have other complications during child birth. Have problems carrying the baby. And obviously is kind of too young to be a parent. However if she's 18-20+. None of those things really apply. Early 20s is probably the best time to have children. Biologically anyway.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/25 04:06 PM
1	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb I like mixed women. Hair color doesn't really matter. Though I like curly hair the most. Foot size... never noticed. Body type.... really as long as she has a pretty face doesn't really matter as much. Those the women with the prettiest faces tend to be the fittest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/25 01:57 AM
0	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb Teachers mostly. In high school it was quite common for teachers to try to explain to us why "we shouldn't judge a book by its covers". And all that mess. There was a ton of literature that we had to read. That had this theme. They really did try to instill this in us. But it was completely useless. Humans are vain creatures and no amount of brainwashing however subtle is ever going to change that. Parents try to do it too. But I think my parents were too smart to put a lot of effort into someth…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/25 01:41 AM
-1	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb Yes I get that. We see people preferring those with shared genetics all over the place. Whether it's parents and their kids. Brothers and sisters. Aunts and uncles. Humans in general tend to prefer those who they share their DNA with. Even our own ethnicity to some degree. Probably due to the reason you just described. My nephew may not be my child but genetically he is much closer to me than some random kid. That doesn't dispute the fact that humans Pair bond as a default Males are very hyper v…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/25 01:39 AM
3	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb Are we talking about off the wall Amazon tribes here? Or actual large civilizations? Because yes if you look at a bunch of strange tribes. You'll see all sorts of weird behavior. That may very well be genetic in nature and just different from us. Has there ever been a large civilization where men were a bunch of happy cucks who didn't care if they were raising children that were not theirs? I seriously doubt it. It wouldn't take many men who don't function that way to weed a large % of the cucks…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/25 01:36 AM
-2	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb Neither feminism nor the sexual revolution changed biology, but they did change behavior. You're missing a key component. The environment has massively changed. For most of human history men were the one's gathering the most resources and controlling the most resources. It was unusual for men and women to hold the same exact social status and command the same amount of resources. In reality we have not changed that much. Our environment changed very fast. Second, you're still going with this inc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/25 01:17 AM
1	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb The methology he was talking about is looking at figurines that a small # of people made for any number of reasons. And trying to deduce based on that what the average guy of that era preferred as a sexual partner. Which is why I brought up the 1990s skeleton models when you said that. Even our "super models" were not a particularly good example of what real men actually found attractive. And if that's not a good sign. How can you trust a bunch of random ass figurines?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/25 12:36 AM
1	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb Ok but ever since we’ve evolved into agrarian societies who no longer have to be nomadic, it’s no longer true that starvation is the only thing on people’s minds. But evolution is slow as fuck. Most of our sexual instincts evolved way before all of that. If you really think about it. The way humans behave really doesn't make any sense in our environment. We're way too aggressive. Way too petty. Way too judgemental. Care way too much what others think. Put way too much emphasis on useless traits …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/25 12:26 AM
-1	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb our genes don't care about whether you, individually reproduce - it's enough that any carrier of the genes reproduces. Then we wouldn't see things like mate guarding and the cinderella effect. Clearly our males are very keen on reproducing with their own DNA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_guarding_in_humans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinderella_effect It's also very easy to understand why that occurs. Any man that wasn't keen on this. Would get weeded out of the gene pool mighty quick by…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/25 12:19 AM
-1	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb Look at most female kpop stars for example. They’re notorious for having raging eating disorders, and they are thirsted after by lots of men online. I haven't seen any anorexic ones. They tend to have pretty faces. Koreans in general tend to be slimmer as an ethnicity. Yes humans tend to be naturally lazy. BUT only when they are not fucking hungry. And our ancestors spent a large portion of their life hungry. Starvation was the far more common affliction. I bet for every person that died from so…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/25 12:10 AM
1	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb Obesity was not valued. Our bodies are not really meant to be obese. Only reason so many of us are obese nowadays is because food is hyper abundant and you don't need to lift a finger to get it. I don't know why people have these strange beliefs that our ancestors were all chubby chasers. Why would it have changed now? Good lord how much time they spent trying to convince us to like non fit women when I was growing up. A lot of good it did. They didn't have to work very hard to make us like fit …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/25 12:07 AM
1	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb Are you seriously unaware that for a long time in a lot of places in the world it is/was seen as more attractive for people to be overweight? No that's some weird thing that leftists try to push. That's not how the real world works. Just like in the 1990s. When they had all these skeleton looking like they just crawled out of Auschwitz "super models" walking down the catwalk. Supposedly the most attractive women alive. Me and the boys were not lamenting that more girls in our school were bolemic…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/25 11:59 PM
1	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb OMG. Yes some of them would wear the babies. But that was not a very safe practice and our ancestors were not total regards. They only did that if it was absolutely necessary in times of strife. And that still doesn't dispute the original contention. That females were the nurturers. That their primary role was to take care of the young.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/25 11:55 PM
1	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb A singular buck deer will get you about 50k calories That you will share with a bunch of people. Otherwise it will rot in a few days cause you don't have refrigeration. Or you eat when food is available in the summer because you have no means of preserving it without access to salt and other preservatives. You then gain fat to survive during the longer, colder winters. You're thinking slightly chubby. Maybe 15-20% body fat. Not fucking obese. Most people don't lose their sex appeal that much whe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/25 11:53 PM
2	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb But if you go back in history women weren’t housewives or homemakers. I think for some reason you're super set on women not being seen as housewives. But obviously before we had the technology to be safe and fed all the time. People had different family structures. HOWEVER. Taking care of the babies was clearly a female task. Simply because males were not tied to the babies with the breast milk. Because males did not get pregnant. We also see the more gentle nature of females. That too is due to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/25 11:49 PM
0	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb I used to make a lot of round figurines when I was a kid. I never liked fat women. Just the easiest thing to draw. More than likely the same thing. Having a ton of extra fat means "BAD PARTNER" in prehistoric terms. Think about it. People are constantly running around doing shit. The only way you can accumulate so much fat is if you're absurdly lazy or dim witted. Calories were very scarce. They didn't have a Publix next door where you can buy 10,000 calories for $5 in a box of Oreos. 10,000 cal…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/25 11:41 PM
0	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb Why does that matter? You can't leave the babies alone for too long. That's the reason for sexual dimorphism. Someone had to take care of the kids. That is why females tend to be far more nurturing and more empathetic. You need that when raising the children. I don't know why people are so offended and against this commonly known fact. It's a great thing. Mothers are fucking awesome.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/25 11:36 PM
0	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb You're too fixated on Industrial revolution. Most of our evolution happened way before that. I asked WHY do you think men are built differently. Nature doesn't do anything by accident. If it benefitted our species to have males and females be identical strength. They would be. Through pure natural selection. Evolutionary science has some very simple and practical explanations. Let's hear yours.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/25 11:31 PM
1	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb No they weren't doing the same. Women typically did not fight wars. Women were not doing the super hard labor. Women were not fighting for dominance. Why do you think males are so much stronger, faster, more endurant and generally tougher than females? What do you think is the biologic reason for this? Do you really think the massive amount of time a female would spend pregnant and nursing the babies didn't make a difference? That the massive sexual dimorphism just happened randomly for our spec…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/25 11:08 PM
2	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb Shit if you think about it. This environment favors those who prefer fat partners. Which is a very tiny % of the population. If we lived in this same exact environment for 10,000-50,000 years. Most people would be chubby chasers. (which obviously won't happen because our environment will change a lot in the next 10,000 years) The fact that despite a large % of people being fat asses we still prefer fit partners. Should tell you a thing or two about how quickly evolution really moves when it come…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/25 11:02 PM
2	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb Point one out. The only thing I saw is that "not all men are hyper aggressive" which is definitely true. The majority of people in prison are male. Hyper aggressive males are far more common than hyper aggressive females. But they are still a minority in any case. Most males are not that dangerous if you don't seek a confrontation with them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/25 11:00 PM
0	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb What part are you trying to argue? Of course women tended the house. Women produce children. We didn't have formula for 99.9999% of human existence. That means you better feed your baby from your breast or it's going to die. Women also are the only one's that get pregnant. Which means you really can't have them doing any hard labor for at least 3-6 months and then 6-12 months after the baby is born. And most women had 5+ children because so many of them didn't make it to adulthood. Of course hum…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/25 10:55 PM
0	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb What moron would try to say that? Of course human males are significantly more aggressive. I've never seen anyone claim something that stupid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/25 10:50 PM
1	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb Evolutionary biology tends to be far more useful than the "it's all random as hell" or "it's all societal" explanations. A simple point to consider is this. They spent oodles of time trying to convince us not to judge potential partners based on looks during high school. And yet we all still did anyway. All the social pressure in the world doesn't mean shit if they are trying to make you do something that is not already in your nature. Yet nobody had to convince us to like pretty fit women. They…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/25 10:49 PM
2	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb No. In reality what is "strong" is highly contextual. If you're around the black plague. You can be the best fighter on the planet. If you don't have an immune system that is capable of dealing with the plague. You will die and the dweeb who's ass you could effortlessly kick. If he has the immune system he will live.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/25 10:46 PM
2	Appeal to nature arguments and what humans historically did are dumb Polyamory more than likely involved several women and one man. But that was really only a small % of high status men that behaved that way. Evolutionary one man many women is fine. Because everybody knows who the parents are in this setup. Evolutionary one woman and many men wouldn't make any sense. Because most men would be wasting their energy raising someone else's DNA and getting weeded out of the gene pool in the process. Not typical human behavior. Many women and many men also wouldn't mak…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/25 10:44 PM
–	The majority of women will never change for a man That's such a silly statement people make. The reason you feel good when you look good is evolutionary. Women who look good have higher social status and can attract higher quality partners. That is why looking good releases feel good chemicals in your brain. So while you're think you're "doing it for you". You're actually doing it for everyone else. There's nothing wrong with that either. Everyone does this not just women. Men are just less likely to believe these silly sound bites.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/25 09:50 PM
–	The majority of women will never change for a man Depending on how attractive she is. May be worth significantly more than diamonds.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/25 09:49 PM
–	The majority of women will never change for a man I used to believe that too. Till I saw how much time and energy my wife spends on her appearance. She spends $100s of on fucking lotions, hair products, manicures, pedicures. And yes while really most men could give a shit what your nails look like. The overall obsession with appearance is important. Because it's how you stay attractive. So I don't think it's accurate that a woman doesn't have to do shit. A very attractive woman who was born with elite genes can probably show up in pijamas with …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/25 09:39 PM
2	Can the illiterate be sexy? Part 2 Because it's about being realistic not idealistic. In an ideal world men would have self respect and blah blah. But in the real world this is how they ACTUALLY tend to behave. And it's not changing anytime soon since sexuality is very instinctual at the base. You'd need to genetically engineer a whole new breed of men for them to behave differently.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/25 09:02 PM
3	Can the illiterate be sexy? Part 2 Those are all very different though. That will have very different answers. If she's mentally handicapped. I think most guys would stop short of having a relationship with someone like that. Simply because you don't want your kids to be like that. It's an innate biologic ick. But if she just speaks another language or nobody ever taught her... A lot of guys won't care.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/25 07:58 PM
0	Can the illiterate be sexy? Part 2 Of course not. But realistically speaking. If you're lonely and single. And someone attractive is into you. You're probably going to give them the time of day. Even if they suck as a person. Even if you don't have shit in common and generally don't have much of a future together. It's still better than being alone. Or at least that's the perception. In reality you're probably better alone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/25 07:56 PM
3	Can the illiterate be sexy? Part 2 I imagine a large % of men would still have a relationship with her. Just cause of how hot she is. It also depends on why she is illiterate. Is she mentally handicapped or no one ever taught her? Those are very different things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/25 07:01 PM
2	Can the illiterate be sexy? Part 2 Like I said. Getting an attractive woman into you may be a once in a year type of deal for a lot of guys. Sure they can keep looking. But chances are they are going to be dealing with scarcity for weeks or months. May as well try to make it work with the one you got in front of you. It's just like looking for a job in a saturated market. You can always keep looking. But at some point you have to take what is given and realize that may be all you're worth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/25 06:58 PM
1	Can the illiterate be sexy? Part 2 By brain rot you mean accurate information? There's usually a caveat though. "WHOEVER WILL HAVE THEM THAT IS ATTRACTIVE". Most men can have endless opportunities with whales and other undesirable women. What they mean when they say "we only ever get a few options" is that there's only ever a small # of attractive women willing to entertain them. But it's not like attraction is a choice. You can't make yourself attracted to unattractive people. SO it still tends to be fairly accurate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/25 06:52 PM
6	Can the illiterate be sexy? Part 2 The all important question. How hot is she? The hotter she is the more people will let her get away with. It's proportional in that manner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/25 06:46 PM
0	Question about old men who think they have a chance with young women I wish I could convert every male I talk to. This information is practically useless to a female. But can be extremely useful and beneficial for a male.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/25 02:09 AM
0	Question about old men who think they have a chance with young women Shit I used to believe all the stuff you believe. Then I went to Kyiv Ukraine for 2 weeks. Realized the follies of my ways. I was dead wrong about all this money and status thing. I used to believe it was only hookers and "sugar babies" who were after those kind of guys. The thing is I had women from all walks of life interested in dating me. Women who made more $ than me, women who were more educated than me. Very far from your typical prostitute type. It finally dawned on me that males and fem…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/25 01:57 AM
0	Question about old men who think they have a chance with young women Ugly no....... But most men are not ugly. Most men are just average. And for an average dude having high money/status can mean the world of a difference. Between fighting for trashy scraps and being able to date much better looking women. No money in itself does not turn women on. But you know what does turn women on? Their boyfriend. Women get horny for their boyfriend. You know what can make you a much more attractive long term partner? Having money and status. Which is why passport bro works …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/25 01:48 AM
-1	Question about old men who think they have a chance with young women Women being attracted to older men is significantly more common than men being attracted to older women. For obvious biologic reasons. Now I agree that in most cases the age difference is really 5-10 years. Not 20+. That's not very common. Though it does happen. I mean after all if there are dudes out there attracted to other dudes and vice versa. Women being attracted to much older guys is a much smaller jump in strangeness factor. It sounds like your friends are just prostitutes. Hopefully tho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/25 01:34 AM
2	Question about old men who think they have a chance with young women Sure some are just "sugar babies" which is another term for prostitute. You can't really expect to have a real relationship with one of those creatures. If you're realistic about what you're getting and doing it's not a problem. But those are not the only type of women who will get into relationships with guys who have higher money and status. Regular women get into REAL RELATIONSHIPS (not prostitution) on those merits all the time. And genuinely love and pair bond with the dudes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/25 01:05 AM
0	Question about old men who think they have a chance with young women She's the one who is going to catch his ire eventually. She's the one playing the stupid game. You don't have to like it or agree with it. The world is what it is whether we want it to be that way or not. There's evidence all over the planet that your wealth and status plays a significantly bigger role in a males sexual value versus a woman's. For obvious biologic reasons. A human female gets pregnant. She is going to get stuck with the child. It makes sense to weigh subconsciously the resourcef…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/25 01:01 AM
2	Question about old men who think they have a chance with young women She is young and pretty and she is an exceptional hairstylist. She is from a different country. She told me she is repulsed by her husband. She is having an affair with a young stud 2 years younger than herself. She is a piece of shit and I hope she gets deported once her husband catches her. Your entire argument pretty much rests on "any woman who marries a guy richer or higher status than her is an evil piece of useless shit". Which is not true. Yes sure some of them are like that. But by far …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/25 12:46 AM
1	Self improvement leads to resentment The urges are always there. Whether you can control them or not doesn't always translate into dating success. Plenty of men have no problem controlling them and still eat shit in the dating market.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/25 10:31 PM
0	Self improvement leads to resentment The biological predetermination is being obsessed with sex and procreation. You don't need to open your eyes very wide to see it all over the place. From movies to music to strip clubs to fashion. Humans are very obsessed with it. Especially our men. We had to be. Our species would have died out a long time ago if we weren't so sex obsessed. So you're sitting there calling a bunch of men. For behaving exactly the way they are supposed to behave. Seems just silly. For what it's worth when men com…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/25 06:50 PM
9	Self improvement leads to resentment So most men are pathetic.... great. You have given a derogatory label to a large group of people for behaving exactly how their biology has designed them to behave. What do you think you will accomplish doing that? Do you think you can shame them into genetically engineering a different way to interpret and experience the universe?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/25 06:37 PM
13	Self improvement leads to resentment Men could theoretically stop eating at an instant.... but they won't. So its a totally pointless statement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/25 06:34 PM
2	Inconvenient truths about each gender in modern society "Take care of finances" means bring home the bacon. As in be the breadwinner of the house. Not necessarily the accountant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/25 02:12 AM
1	Inconvenient truths about each gender in modern society It's well documented. Shit they even have a name for it "wife goggles". You remind me of that meme. "Everyone else is wrong and I'm right". https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10295201/	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/25 01:06 AM
1	Inconvenient truths about each gender in modern society Yes if a guy is sufficiently attractive. Money and status doesn't matter. Just like if you have enough money and status your looks don't matter as much. No woman wants to be sentenced to a life of unsatisfying sex with a man she isn't sexually attracted to. But they are attracted to their boyfriend. It's called emotional attraction. Once you pair bond with someone they become more attractive to you. Like I said money doesn't directly turn women on. But money can make you a very appealing option …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/25 12:58 AM
1	Inconvenient truths about each gender in modern society Yeah yeah. We've been over this already dude. Money doesn't get panties wet. But her boyfriend does. And she will date a guy with a lot of money and status.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/25 12:44 AM
1	Inconvenient truths about each gender in modern society Properly raised man seeks to take care of the households finances.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/25 11:20 PM
1	Inconvenient truths about each gender in modern society We've been over this. Males and females are different sexually. I think you're a male. Females are capable of pair bonding with a guy who is average looking to them but has good money and status. And forming real relationships. What people call "beta bux" is just normal human sexual behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/25 10:55 PM
-7	Inconvenient truths about each gender in modern society Yes I have. A lot of would be considered 7-10 in America. The quality you get is always quite a bit higher. If you can get a 6 in the phillipines chances are the best you could get at home is a 5 with 2 kids or some s hit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/25 01:51 AM
-2	Inconvenient truths about each gender in modern society Sex tourists and guys looking to find a wife overseas are very different. Sex tourists are going to want to hang out with prostitutes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/25 01:50 AM
4	Inconvenient truths about each gender in modern society That's great. But we're all humans. Understanding human nature goes a long way towards understanding human sexuality and how best to navigate it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/25 01:41 AM
2	Inconvenient truths about each gender in modern society It's simple biologic arbitrage. Males are attracted to physical appearance. On average anyway. Females are different. They are attracted to a COMBINATION of physical appearance, money and status. When you go overseas. Your money and status significantly improves. Almost instantly. Which can give you a gigantic boost in your ability to find a partner. You still need to have some social skills. You have to be very careful to avoid the gold diggers, scammers, thieves, hookers etc. A large % of thos…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/25 01:39 AM
3	Inconvenient truths about each gender in modern society Like I said in another post. When I went to Ukraine I went on dates with educated women. Who had jobs and lives. They just wanted a quality partner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/25 01:34 AM
0	Inconvenient truths about each gender in modern society Some do. In fact I always say "assume that 50% of the women are useless pieces of shit" anytime you passport bro. Look out for gold diggers, scammers, hookers, thieves etc. The thing is you can find a real partner this way. SOmeone you will pair bond with and have children with. As a woman trying to do the same thing. 99% of the men you run into will be scammers and thieves and users and all that shit. Because men are just not innately attracted to money and status. If you're ugly you're just ug…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/25 01:33 AM
4	Inconvenient truths about each gender in modern society The only foreign women who are willing to marry like this are the ones who are so poor that they view any Western man as their ticket out. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S109051381730315X Sexual attraction is partially innate. Meaning it's not learned. It's wired into us through DNA. Males and Females select slightly differently. Due to biologic differences. The biggest one of course being pregnancy. Females get pregnant males do not. Due to pregnancy females tend to evalu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/25 01:29 AM
1	Inconvenient truths about each gender in modern society It's true though. A large % of the human population derives their meaning from their family. That is their partner and their children. In many cases it's married couples. But not always. It's not a coincidence. This is the setup the human animal prefers. I'm an atheist. This is just evolutionary driven behavior. People without families do all sorts of fucked shit like get addicted to drugs, spend all of their time playing video games etc etc etc. Not always. Some people can function fine. But it…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/25 01:23 AM
4	Inconvenient truths about each gender in modern society The key difference is that when you visit an underdeveloped country. Your money and status skyrockets relative to the local guys. So you're able to pull much higher quality women. You may be able to pull women for one night stands where's you could never before. However where it really shines is your ability to find women for long term relationships. It would be like a 350lbs American woman getting on a plane and shedding 200lbs as soon as she gets off in another country. The difference in sex a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/25 01:19 AM
1	Inconvenient truths about each gender in modern society Why? Having kids and your own family is the greatest gift ever. Far more fulfilling then any shiteating 9 to 5 will ever be. A properly raised man seeks to provide for himself and his family. Not be a useless fuckboy or a dicklicking criminal scumbag.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/25 01:15 AM
2	Inconvenient truths about each gender in modern society Not really.... The best thing to do is find somewhere to live for a few years. Get a remote job. It's not cheap. But not super expensive either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/25 01:12 AM
-3	Inconvenient truths about each gender in modern society Most of them are knee deep in our Western culture too. They watch our movies. Consume our social media. Watch our news. Play our video games. Watch our TV shows. They'd have no problem talking about Western shit. They know just as much as you. A woman who prioritizes childbearing and housework has been properly raised. Doesn't mean she can't do other shit. It's just a matter of emphasis and prioritization. Of course the real draw is that they are more attractive. Well.... a Western guy can get w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/25 01:09 AM
3	Only immature and dysfunctional (or opportunistic) older adults date younger college-age adults. Every single older man that wanted to hit on me all had a few things in common. They were disfunctional creeps with a desire to control someone. I doubt it. You may interpret it that way. Younger women are just hotter to us. If you're a 33 year old guy. Most women your age that are worth a damn are probably already married. The one's that are left are either fat, have kids from another relationship, fucking crazy or any number of things. On top of that they are 33 so they have aged and no longer…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/25 02:28 AM
1	How are young men being disenfranchised? It's not. That's just an observation it's not a moral judgement. Yes women can also afford to treat men like shit. There are people in both red and black pill movements who want to blame everyone for everything. Those sorts exist everywhere. They are usually the vocal minority. Majority of people just want to understand how things work. They don't care to assign blame to anyone or anything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/25 07:55 PM
5	How are young men being disenfranchised? It was an intentionally watered down example. Calm down. Red pill says good looking guys CAN AFFORD to treat women like shit. Because they are already wanted. Some women are indeed turned on by the whole "I don't need you bitch" attitude. But chances are that guy was already attractive before that. It only made him a little more enticing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/25 06:29 PM
2	Only immature and dysfunctional (or opportunistic) older adults date younger college-age adults. A lot of 16 year old women are not fully mature yet physically. They would have increased rates of things like miscarriages and other anomalies. This is likely why most men actually prefer 18-22 range not younger. This information is somewhat baked into our psyche from evolutionary pressures. (obviously there are some exceptions, but on average). Again none of that is processed by the guy. There is no universe where a hotter younger woman has less power then an uglier older woman. The uglier old…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/25 05:35 PM
7	How are young men being disenfranchised? I'll give you a rough example. Blue pill will say something generic like "Looks don't matter it's all about personality". An average guy will think back in his high school years. Think back on what type of guys were getting all the hot girls. Realize those guys had dreadful shitty personalities but they were good looking dudes. Red pill will come out and say "good looking guys have a ton of advantages". That resonates far more. Just a very simple generic example.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/25 05:26 PM
6	How are young men being disenfranchised? Mental resonance is an interesting concept. Sometimes people talk to each other and just vibe. Feels like you're completing each others sentences. You know exactly how the other feels and what not. Obviously it's not always this perfect. The reason men are attracted to the red pill and other such ideologies is because the messages resonate with them. While the blue pill messages don't resonate at all. It really just boils down to that. They see more truth in the red pill. Based on their own live…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/25 05:11 PM
2	Only immature and dysfunctional (or opportunistic) older adults date younger college-age adults. An uglier older woman has less power than a pretty younger woman. Because an uglier woman has very few options relative to the pretty one. By your rationale men would be going after uglier women. But they don't. Because power doesn't matter to them. Men really don't think about shit like that. Dick don't care. On top of that biologically speaking men are supposed to be the providers. Men are supposed to be the one's with the resources. The one's with the knowledge. So what you're describing is j…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/25 04:56 PM
1	Only immature and dysfunctional (or opportunistic) older adults date younger college-age adults. He is quite different. If that relationship began when she was in middle school. He's had the hots for her for years. That is very different from most average men who go after women who are sexually mature. Completely different behavior. How can you not see the difference? If you start with a woman when she is 18. She is almost certainly fully mature by that point. Where's if you started a relationship even if it wasn't sexual in the beginning when she was 14 or whatever.... then she wasn't sexu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/25 09:23 PM
1	Only immature and dysfunctional (or opportunistic) older adults date younger college-age adults. Are you saying men care about absolutely nothing else that women have to offer besides looks? They only care about all that other stuff ONCE they find her attractive. She could have the most awesome personality. If she's not hot its irrelevant. So while those things can matter. The looks is the barrier of entry. Also understand that men don't choose to be this way. This is just how we are programmed through nature. You don't control who you find attractive. If we could there would be almost no i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/25 09:00 PM
8	Only immature and dysfunctional (or opportunistic) older adults date younger college-age adults. Why do people always bring up power imbalance? Most men don't give a rats ass about that. Some 9/10 chick who is 21 years old has way more power than some obese 3/10 30 year old woman. Simply because a lot more men are interested in the 21 year old. And yet most guys will date the 21 year old. BECAUSE SHE IS BETTER LOOKING. It's not about power. It never was. It's always been about who is more attractive. Younger women (we're talking college aged) are more attractive. Period. They are less likel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/25 08:33 PM
5	Why don't men just hang out with each other more to solve the "male loneliness epidemic"? I mean yeah.... But the reason a lot of guys don't have friends is not because they "can't" make friends. In fact they probably have a lot of friends online. That they never hang out with because they are all chronically online too. You're conflating not caring to make friends with not being able to make them. They just don't make the effort. I very frequently say that "Don't just leave the house to find coochie" is horrific advice. Because in many cases that's the only way the guy will ever lea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/25 07:23 PM
5	Why don't men just hang out with each other more to solve the "male loneliness epidemic"? One does not preclude the other. I mean if you NEVER HAVE ANY FRIENDS yeah maybe your social skills are going to be trash. But if you just have 1-2 really good friends that you hang out from time to time. Especially if you're older. It's not going to really hamper you in a relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/25 06:35 PM
3	Why don't men just hang out with each other more to solve the "male loneliness epidemic"? I don't stick my pecker into my friends. I don't cuddle with my friends. I don't kiss my friends. My friends don't know nearly as much about me as my partner. I don't have kids with my friends. The level of intimacy is night and day. Come on....	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/25 06:15 PM
2	CMV: Confident, smart women intimidate males To a degree sure. Maybe out of 10,000 a dozen or so will actually find her attractive. But the vast majority will not. Despite it being slightly subjective. There is common patterns. Such that obese women are not seen as desirable by the vast majority of the population.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/25 03:39 PM
8	CMV: Confident, smart women intimidate males Is this a troll post? The chick is ugly and fat. This is why nobody wants to date her. Got fuck all to do with her "confidence" or "intelligence". You see some hottie on Instagram that men are simping and thirsting over. Do you think they are suddenly going to lose interest if they come to find out she is actually intelligent and self assured? Of course not. Dick don't care.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/25 03:36 PM
7	Do you believe men in western societies pose any risk of reverting to extreme patriarchy (eg Iran ‘79)? More generally, do protections for women ultimately exist at the mercy of men? Bisexual and pansexual is the same thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/25 01:45 AM
8	One of the main reasons age gap relationships fail is that the men approach them thinking younger women will let them get away with laziness and irresponsibility Any relationship where the guy is 40 years old and still living with his mom and still parties is going to be very strained. Regardless of whether the age difference is 1 minute or 15 years. That's one of those water is wet statements.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/25 01:06 PM
-2	Q4Men: how would you feel if your wife made these typically “male” comments/ posts online? I always make it a point never to pay for OnlyFans. Because that would be taking $ away from my wife and daughter and giving it to some other hooker. I do the rest of the stuff. She also looks at guys on instagram sometimes. She knows I look at women too. It's normal human behavior. We have 100% trust in one another. She knows I would never cheat on her. My dad looks fantastic for his age though. So I doubt she says that about my dad. He was always a looker too. Even in his late 70s women be hit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/25 06:41 PM
–	No one ever debunked the hypergamy. How many rich men with beautiful wives do you need to see to believe it? Go to some Vegas convention or something. Where they bring their wives and girlfriends. I used to think they were all just gold diggers (which are basically just long term prostitutes). Now I realize that they actually liked them in some cases.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/25 11:03 PM
–	No one ever debunked the hypergamy. Does it? Is there anything to support that claim? I know it's popularly believed, but it is largely men repeating other men's anecdotal claims. Yes I'm one of them. I also met up with several others when I lived there (Ukraine) who also had nice looking wives and beautiful children. It works extraordinary well if you use common sense. As in avoid all the trashy women. Which isn't always easy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/25 10:57 PM
–	No one ever debunked the hypergamy. Only if you believe leftist propaganda. Relative to how it was in the past. Western mobility including United States is absolutely fantastic. Considering what a high % of people are lazy fucks, criminal bastards or just have a low IQ. It seems pretty much anyone who actually applies themselves ends up achieving at least a middle class income. You have to have some majorly bad luck not to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/25 10:51 PM
–	No one ever debunked the hypergamy. We all do. It's not really about "defending". I don't expect any different of them. It's to be expected, that is just who we are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/25 10:49 PM
–	No one ever debunked the hypergamy. But we still have social classes. Why do you think passport bro works so well? Because you're flying over to a country where just being an American makes you high status. Would be like some fat American woman flying to another country and shedding 200 lbs the second she gets off the plane. That is how profound the effect is in terms of your attractiveness to the local women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/25 10:41 PM
–	No one ever debunked the hypergamy. But it's just simple human dating strategy. All humans behave this way when given the opportunity. Why single out women? And why criticize someone for behaving in ways that nature programmed them to behave? You think you're ever going to shame a guy into liking some obese woman?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/25 10:21 PM
–	No one ever debunked the hypergamy. Hypergamy originates in India. Where attractive women of lower Castes frequently married up in Caste to move up in society. Is an observed and documented phenomenon. Their classes were far more static. Not like ours. If you were born a certain Caste you were probably going to die in that Caste. They didn't have the massive mobility that we enjoy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/25 10:19 PM
–	No one ever debunked the hypergamy. All I can say about hypergamy is that if you use it to inform your dating strategy don’t go complaining in 10 years time that your wife is materialistic. You are literally marketing yourself to materialistic women. I don't think that's accurate at all. All humans are "materialistic" to some degree. And a large % of women select on more than just looks. In a lot of cases the other things they look at are markers of high status or $. Or really just someone who is resourceful. Why do women like "co…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/25 10:17 PM
–	No one ever debunked the hypergamy. Hypergamy when relating to the original meaning. Which was Indian women marrying "up" in terms of social status more specifically a "caste". Was a correct depiction of what was occuring. But at this point the modern interpretation is a down right misunderstanding of the differences between the sexes. ALL HUMANS want to maximize their value on the dating market. Which is another way of saying "dating the best person possible". You see a bunch of American men move to Colombia to date local hotties…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/25 10:11 PM
5	Why do you like "bro" spaces? uhhhhh yeah i'd prefer a woman giving me a massage lol. Not sure what that's about. Hair cutting not as important. Long as they do a good job. Going to the gym I prefer with a guy. Just cause a woman can't really match your intensity. Most of the time anyway.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/25 02:22 AM
34	Why do you like "bro" spaces? Because we have to watch what we say around you guys lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/25 02:04 AM
1	Men Put Too Much Value on Women—You Don’t Need Them Like You Think The original argument I made is that if you try to tell men to stop following their natural urges. The end result is usually not very good. Remember the whole "they will just turn into drug and video game addicted hermits". You're a lot better off telling men "Be productive, be the best version of yourself, do it to get a quality mate if you have to because that is usually the best motivational factor for a man". Work out. Stay in shape. Be social. Don't sit at home all day. Moderate screen time…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/25 07:43 PM
2	Men Put Too Much Value on Women—You Don’t Need Them Like You Think The fact that some men adapt, overcome, and live fulfilling lives without relationships proves that this is not an absolute necessity The fact that some guys are gay doesn't prove that the vast majority of men want a woman to fuck and pair bond with. Outliers don't tell us anything other than they exist. just a strong urge that can be managed. Well at least now you're getting it. A man who doesn’t eat dies. A man who doesn’t reproduce doesn’t. That alone proves the difference between biological …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/25 07:31 PM
1	Men Put Too Much Value on Women—You Don’t Need Them Like You Think A lot of folks describe various stages of child-rearing this way. Yeah you ask some parents who haven't had a decent night of sleep for months "how are you feeling". You're bound to get the answer you are fishing for. Which is how are all these extremely ideologically driven "studies" are conducted. But you ask the same parents if they would rather have their children just go away or never existed. Unless they are fucking crack heads or something chances are they will not agree with that sentime…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/25 06:55 PM
1	Men Put Too Much Value on Women—You Don’t Need Them Like You Think I had a blast in the first stages of drug addiction. It was fantastic. Eventually the bad stuff rolled along as it always does.... Then it wasn't so fantastic. There are some outliers that generally don't need a pair bond and children. Maybe you're one of those. But for every one of those there will be a dozen guys waking up feeling like shit and the worst thing is they won't even know why because its politically incorrect to inform them nowadays.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/25 06:32 PM
1	Men Put Too Much Value on Women—You Don’t Need Them Like You Think Humans have existed on the planet for about 200-300,000 years. You think it was done by force the entire time? We've also had ape like species that were similar to humans for millions of years prior to that. I suppose they were all forcing women to have children and raise the young. Interesting perspective there. Totally not ahistorical and devoid of logic and reason.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/25 06:27 PM
2	Men Put Too Much Value on Women—You Don’t Need Them Like You Think Yes they are. People lack introspection to realize they are. But that doesn't make it so. Shit one of the first things they teach you in Psychology 101 is that nearly everything a human does once all of his/her needs are fulfilled somehow deals with procreation. Even if it is only tangentially related like having a job. This is yet another ascientific argument from the left. I'm glad that woke is dying a quick death. The sooner the better. Humans are animals. Procreation and pair bonding is crit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/25 06:22 PM
0	Men Put Too Much Value on Women—You Don’t Need Them Like You Think Of course they are. They had to be. If they weren't we would have all went extinct a long time ago. Humans are animals whether you like it or not. The fact that a % of women are deciding to be miserable cat ladies doesn't dispute that fact. Promoting this self degrading and devaluing lifestyle is despicable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/25 06:16 PM
0	Men Put Too Much Value on Women—You Don’t Need Them Like You Think I think people who truly don't want to breed are A) A minority B) Suffering from a type of mental disorder I don't discount that people with mental disorders exist. They clearly do. But that doesn't mean we should be structuring our society around it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/25 05:50 PM
2	Men Put Too Much Value on Women—You Don’t Need Them Like You Think A relationship can add to your life, but it shouldn’t be your entire life. Unless you're human with human DNA and human instincts. All these dumb ideas certainly work very well with some fictional human like creatures that don't act or think like humans. Whether you like it or not we are animals with a ton of instincts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/25 05:49 PM
1	Men Put Too Much Value on Women—You Don’t Need Them Like You Think They’re suffering because they believe they’re failures without it. From a genetic point of view. You are a failure. Your DNA has programmed you to feel this way. Sure you can find ways to avoid it or dampen it. But it's always going to be there. If they stopped believing that, it wouldn’t feel like starvation—it would just feel like any other challenge in life. I'm sure if a starving person just stopped believing they need food. They'd be ok... until you know they die. Same with people who fail…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/25 05:47 PM
1	Men Put Too Much Value on Women—You Don’t Need Them Like You Think I'm married with kids. I'm talking hypothetical and from past experience. Because we are animals. We are wired for certain drives. If you don't eat for a week your quality of life will diminish. No matter how many hobbies or whatever the fuck else you have. It's just a simple animal drive that when unfulfilled leads to a shitty life. Nobody chooses this. Telling someone who is depressed because they are failing to pair bond to just "deal with their depression and anxiety" is akin to telling some…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/25 05:45 PM
1	Men Put Too Much Value on Women—You Don’t Need Them Like You Think Objectively not considering what a large % of them are living hermitic lifestyles. You need a big push to get them out of their comfort zones. You will never find a better push than to chase vagege. Other than maybe chasing heroin or cocaine. But I doubt anyone with half a brain would ever advocate for that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/25 03:43 PM
1	Men Put Too Much Value on Women—You Don’t Need Them Like You Think Plenty of men find meaning in their work, passions, friendships, and personal growth. The fact that you can’t imagine fulfillment without a woman doesn’t mean it’s impossible. You think they find meaning in it. And what exactly do you mean by "plenty". There is 160,000,000 males in United States. If 1% of them find meaning in all that rubbish. That is still 1,600,000 people. Which I guess can be plenty. But we really shouldn't base our ideas about the general population on outliers. The real tox…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/25 03:40 PM
-2	Men Put Too Much Value on Women—You Don’t Need Them Like You Think You're essentially telling a bunch of people who are starving "stop focusing on food for a second". Just because it doesn't kill you. Doesn't mean it's not a psychological need. Hell when people get stuck on deserted islands they frequently have severe mental health issues from a lack of socializing. The same can be said for men who are perpetually without a sexual partner. Yes maybe they'll survive just fine. Just like a person stuck in solitary confinement can survive just fine. But nobody wan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/25 03:29 PM
1	Men Put Too Much Value on Women—You Don’t Need Them Like You Think That's the motivating factor to do a lot of those things. Without that motivating factor. It's much easier to just play Counter Strike or World of Warcraft all the time. Same dopamine rush minus the effort. Not to mention the less you socialize with real humans the more difficult it becomes. But if you're not chasing ladies what the hell is the point. So indirectly you're saying "lead a miserable hermitic life" when you give that advice. You just don't realize it because you're only looking at i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/25 03:27 PM
10	Men Put Too Much Value on Women—You Don’t Need Them Like You Think Like I said in another post. The natural conclusion to your "advice" is men sitting at home click clacking away on their computers for 20-30 years straight. Dealing with serious anxiety and depression issues. Because every morning they wake up and realize there is absolutely nothing to live for. Drug and alcohol addiction. And generally poor health and poor standards of living. Yes some outliers are perfectly fine living this way. In fact they thrive. But the average Joe is miserable like this. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/25 02:45 PM
2	Men Put Too Much Value on Women—You Don’t Need Them Like You Think Try not eating for a few days. See how well you do at ignoring your urges. At some point this advice you're giving becomes pretty toxic. Guys never leaving the house. Working and playing video games 24/7. Not socializing. Not doing jack shit. That is the ultimate conclusion of your advice. If men genuinely stop caring. They just become hermits. Which we're definitely seeing a lot of. We want men to care. We want everyone to care. Procreation is wired to be the most pleasurable act on the planet.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/25 02:33 PM
15	Men Put Too Much Value on Women—You Don’t Need Them Like You Think It's just biology. Nobody wakes up in the morning and decides "I will feel like shit today because a bunch of women I don't know are not interested in me". We are human animals. We are wired to care. We are wired to put great emphasis on sex and pair bonding. If we didn't we would have all died out many generations ago.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/25 02:28 PM
28	What do you mean you can’t be vulnerable?? It's just that some women lose attraction to a dude if he starts crying n shit. I was crying a lot when my mom died. I remember reading my ex wifes journal how she wants a "real man". But then again our relationship was already fucked way before that. (yeah yeah I know I was young).	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/25 11:57 PM
1	The “male loneliness epidemic” is self inflicted No I'm seriously curious what spaces you mean. I can think of like video game places. But then again most of us play video games at home. Maybe trading card game places. Those aren't that popular though. Other then that I'm drawing a blank.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/25 11:08 PM
0	What is something in a woman’s control that makes her higher value to you? Don't be fat. Be fit. Know how to dress. Know how to apply make up (too much is bad as well). Be feminine.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/25 11:33 PM
2	The "If she did it with an ex, she should do it with me" rule applies to pegging It's not the same exact statement at all. For the sake of the argument. If Billy let his previous girlfriend peg him because that turned her on. And he refuses to do it for his new girl. That could indeed be a sign that he doesn't like her that much. Though obviously guys are usually not the one's getting penetrated.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/25 06:00 PM
2	The "If she did it with an ex, she should do it with me" rule applies to pegging Yes that is a much fairer statement than "I don't care if her ass bled for 2 days after, if she had anal sex with Chadwick then she better do it with me too".	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/25 11:09 AM
7	The "If she did it with an ex, she should do it with me" rule applies to pegging By whom? The only argument I ever heard is the far more moderate "if she's into more freaky shit with him, she probably doesn't like you that much". Which probably has some truth to it. But obviously the "if she hated it" nuance is sort of a common sense thing here. It seems like you guys are arguing against some far more extreme straw man then what people are actually saying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/25 02:41 AM
3	The "If she did it with an ex, she should do it with me" rule applies to pegging but many men here believe she should do it anyway if she has done it with a previous partner, otherwise she is signaling that her current partner is less important or less attractive. It depends. If she did it like 5-6 times and absolutely fucking hated it. Then no it doesn't mean she suddenly thinks her current partner is less attractive or whatever. But if she gave her previous boyfriend head 1000 times and suddenly she's not into that. Then yeah you have to question her motives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/25 02:18 AM
11	The "If she did it with an ex, she should do it with me" rule applies to pegging Plenty as in what? On the planet? Yes I'm sure there is "plenty" of insane people on the planet. Who think and believe all sorts of crazy shit. But the average guy isn't going to think that. Like at all. You're confusing the "you did this with your partner because you liked him more than me" with..... honestly I'm not even sure what the hell the rationale for doing what the rapist did to you would be. Like I said it would be utter madness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/25 02:17 AM
9	The "If she did it with an ex, she should do it with me" rule applies to pegging But according to many men, because I did it with one man, I need to do it with all or it isn’t fair I don't think you get it at all. Noone is saying that if someone raped you in your ass. You are now beholden to do it with your boyfriend. That would be madness. But if you gave your ex 1000 blowjobs but suddenly you're not into that. Then that becomes questionable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/25 02:12 AM
4	The "If she did it with an ex, she should do it with me" rule applies to pegging But that's a very silly argument. If the guy is not into it. Why would he want that done to him? It makes no damn sense. If he wants some shit shoved in his ass and she is refusing it. But turns out she did it with another guy. Then yeah maybe there is a parallel there. But otherwise this is just dumbassery.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/25 02:08 AM
9	The "If she did it with an ex, she should do it with me" rule applies to pegging There's dumb arguments There's arguments that don't make no sense and then there's this. What are you even trying to say here? Most guys don't want shit inserted in their ass. Period.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/25 01:48 AM
1	CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectification The war obviously. You can't even fly in. You'd have to cross the border from Poland or something. My wife is from Ukraine and I forbade her to visit until the war is over. She has went to Poland and Turkey to see her family.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/25 11:54 PM
2	Sexual double standard is irrational It's not as much of a double standard as it is an observation on the differences between the sexes. We say "this guy kicks ass" when a guy has a lot of attractive partners. Because most of us can't do it. We say "this girl is a slut" when a woman similarily has a ton of partners. Regardless of whether they are attractive. Because we know any woman can do that. It's just the truth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 03:30 AM
1	Sexual double standard is irrational I've said all this shit to her. We've debated on the topic. She comes from Ukraine. Her views are a lot more in line with mine. Women over there are still taught the truth about human sexes. At least for now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 03:25 AM
0	Sexual double standard is irrational I'm married all this shit is long behind me. Thank god. For those struggling with dating. It is imperative that they understand human nature. Which is what this argument is all about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 03:22 AM
1	Sexual double standard is irrational Justified by who? Who is this central authority that officially justifies it? It's just an observation of reality. Some people don't like it. A lot of guys revere it because they want to do the same shit and can't. A lot of people don't care one way or another.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 03:07 AM
0	Sexual double standard is irrational Your opinion is irrelevant in that regard. He wants to sleep with a lot of women and is pulling it off. Most guys want to sleep with a lot of women and CANT pull it off. Despite trying very hard. I've never met a guy who didn't want to do that at one point in his life. So he's just a regular guy who can pull off what most men can't. Something about him. Whether he is very good looking, has a lot of charm, is very wealthy... who knows. But he's clearly high value.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 03:01 AM
8	Sexual double standard is irrational Sure. If he wasn't he wouldn't be sleeping around. The act of sleeping around shows that he is high value. Most guys can't do that. Not unless they are dumspter diving or something. But nobody is going to think you're high value if you bring home a bunch of whales.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 02:11 AM
-1	Sexual double standard is irrational Because most guys don't want to marry or have a long term relationship with a slut. For obvious biologic reasons. We evolved in a world without genetic tests. If you were dating the town whore. You had no way of knowing if the kid she has is yours. Which means that people who didn't have this instinct to be reluctant to date whores. Got weeded out of existence over time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 02:05 AM
-2	Sexual double standard is irrational Let me try this again. Human male have a dual mating strategy: 1) Fuck a lot of women. Maybe invest in one. Maybe don't invest in any of them. 2) Invest in on and have a pair bonded committed relationship. Where you raise children toether. Females on the other hand only have one (despite what so many claim) 1) Pair bond with a high quality partner. So when a man is sleeping around. He is doing mating strategy #1. Something most guys would LOVE TO DO. But are unable to do. He doesn't give a shit …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 02:01 AM
-5	Sexual double standard is irrational He may be a slut but it doesn't matter. He is already high value. He may very well be making "questionable choices". But most guys would still kill to be him. And clearly lots of women want him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 01:57 AM
-6	Sexual double standard is irrational Its like the double standard for when a male or a female decide on whether they will be a parent. A male decides as soon as he busts a nutt. A woman because she gives birth can decide to get an abortion. Same here. An average female can just open her legs and get endless random dick. An average male can't. Also due to biological differences between us. So when we look at a male who is sleeping around we know he is high value. And when we look at a female who does the same thing we know she's jus…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 01:48 AM
9	Sexual double standard is irrational I think the thing most people don't get is that is that we're often just talking about the merits themselves. For example if a guy has a lot of quality sexual partners. That means he is a high value male. Because most guys simply can't pull it off. While any average looking woman can open her legs and get dozens of dicks shoved inside her. It doesn't really say anything about her value. Besides the fact that she makes some questionable choices. Most guys want to be the dude who can go to any nig…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 01:17 AM
1	There are 2 harsh truths that men and women have accept sooner or later. I gave you a link. You said "tell me why you believe it". I gave you both what I believe and scientific backing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 12:56 AM
1	There are 2 harsh truths that men and women have accept sooner or later. Because it's advantageous for raising the young of course. We have the most fragile babies in the animal kingdom. We are all born slightly under developed because of our huge heads relative to the females ability to squeeze us out. A lot of mammals can walk within days of being born. It takes us 1 year. Was just an evolutionary advantage.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/25 12:06 AM
1	There are 2 harsh truths that men and women have accept sooner or later. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pair_bond This is a pretty good explanation. We see this behavior all over the animal kingdom. Including humans (who are also very much animals). It exists for a simple reason. So that the mother and the father raise their children together. We call it love and many other names. But it's just brain chemistry.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/25 11:54 PM
2	There are 2 harsh truths that men and women have accept sooner or later. No no no no. You guys don't get it. People talk about hobbies as if it's a way to remove the need for a pair bond. Lonely because you're single? Go find a hobby. As if that will fulfill you. I never said that taking a woman out on a date on a kayak is a bad idea. Or that sitting at home is a good idea.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/25 11:50 PM
2	Caring about women's orgasm is beta. That humans have a nature. That it's not all learned. That if you understand the dynamics between how the sexes select. You can make life choices that significantly improve your ability to find a partner. Things like making more $ and learning social skills. That some guys are just born capable at getting women. Loads of stuff. I agree with more red pill stuff than anything else. Just not the AF/BB stuff. I think it's stupid. Oh and a big one is that passport broing works. I'm living proof of th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/25 11:48 PM
–	Women's resistance to paternity testing is the result of evolutionary need to commit paternity fraud. It's the DNA testing that strokes such strong emotions because it goes against evolutionary interests of women. No it doesn't. This is utter stupidity. You're talking about genetic instincts that evolved over millions of years. Likely predate human beings and passed on to us from our ape like ancestors. You really think female apes were out there hoodwinking their partner like that? That would be extremely dangerous in the wild. Your partner will either leave your. Or straight up murder you and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/25 06:10 PM
1	There are 2 harsh truths that men and women have accept sooner or later. Hyperbole, I hope? Like, I understand the drive to smash, but really? Yes a bit hyperbolic lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/25 04:45 PM
8	There are 2 harsh truths that men and women have accept sooner or later. It's not that people are against it. We're against the notion that painting vases or kayaking can somehow replace the need for intimacy and pair bonding. Maybe short term. Another thing people say is "don't do it to get laid, just do it for fun". Fun is playing video games at home. If I'm leaving the house there can only be one motivating factor for that. So "don't do it to get laid" turns into just plain old "don't do it". Having said that having social skills is critical in my opinion and so i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/25 04:18 PM
22	Caring about women's orgasm is beta. I don't agree with a lot of blue pill ideas. But I do agree with one. Some people are either compatible or they are not. Which largely depends on their types of personalities. Now mind you that doesn't mean they have to have the same personalities. Often they are quite different but form together a good bond. All this "beta behavior" and "alpha behavior" is mostly nonsense. You either have a good relationship or you don't. If you do then all of that stuff doesn't seem to matter. And if you don't…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/25 03:34 PM
6	Why is it that if a man fell in love with his female friend, then it is believed that he just “wanted to get into her pants”? Most of the time guys are lying. But through omission. We are attracted to you. But we don't say anything because for one reason or another. Sometimes the guy is just nervous and figures the slow approach is better. Sometimes it's obvious there is no interest on the other side and he hopes that will change once she gets to know him better. Many different reasons. Yes in almost every case we know right away if we are sexually interested in you. You're either hot or you're not. Your other features…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/25 02:47 PM
0	The Provider Man Model No Longer Works in Modern Western Relationships. It's a scam. lol what do you think is going to happen men will go extinct?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/25 08:55 PM
0	The Provider Man Model No Longer Works in Modern Western Relationships. It's a scam. It's really simple. If a guy wants a quality mate.... he can be very good looking and then he just needs to stay in shape. But most guys are not genetically gifted. If you want a quality mate your only choice is to be well rounded. That means decent social skills and more importantly you make good $. You should go hang out some place where rich men hang out with their wives. Notice how many of them have ugly wives. Some of them do for sure. Then again how did they look when they married them? Th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/25 08:38 PM
4	The Provider Man Model No Longer Works in Modern Western Relationships. It's a scam. Of course it still works. You can't outrun human nature. Males are selected often based on traits such as money and status. Because human females have to evaluate the provider capacity. Even if our environment has massively changed. Sexual instincts take much longer to evolve. We are still selecting as if we live in the fucking woods. It takes 1000s of years for such mutations to change. If you want a quality woman. The best thing you can do is be a quality man. Which means be stable, capable of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/25 06:49 PM
1	Everyone is wrong about the reason for declining fertility rates. What idiot scientist holds this view? That humans have no instincts. That sounds like some flat earther shit. Like I said try not eating for 2 days. See how quickly your instinct to eat food kicks in. What do you think an instinct even is?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/25 06:41 PM
2	Everyone is wrong about the reason for declining fertility rates. Are people in Afghanistan as malnourished? Nobody is saying other factors don't exist. Contraceptives are by far the most prominent one. Especially when discussing wealthy Western nations. North Korea has ATROCIOUS living standards. Absolutely atrocious. A large % of their population is malnourished. Afghanistan is a dangerous shithole because of all the terrorist scum. But it's not as miserably poor. People are not animals, people do not have instincts - this is the main difference between a pe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/25 06:25 PM
2	Everyone is wrong about the reason for declining fertility rates. North Korea is a giant slave state with horrific levels of food and all other basic necessities. Including medicine. Not surprising one bit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/25 03:58 PM
2	Everyone is wrong about the reason for declining fertility rates. Yes and just like all humans they like to fuck. But unlike us they don't have easy access to contraceptive. All that stuff you said is mostly irrelevant. We'd still be making 5-6 kids per woman if we didn't have contraceptives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/25 03:10 AM
2	Everyone is wrong about the reason for declining fertility rates. You're absolutely insane if you think this is going to happen at any scale in the next 2 years. In any Western nation. Maybe in some underdeveloped shithole somewhere like Afghanistan. That's about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/25 03:09 AM
5	Everyone is wrong about the reason for declining fertility rates. I'm sure there are extremist idiots in every group. But it wouldn't work. Any country that tried to do that would have massive economic and social problems. Not only is it unethical it's down right impractical. Women produce way too much in the economy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/25 02:59 AM
4	Everyone is wrong about the reason for declining fertility rates. It's the contraception... Autonomy or not people like to fuck. When you don't have condoms and shit. You have way more kids. Western countries had women autonomy way before their fertility rates tanked.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/25 02:53 AM
5	Everyone is wrong about the reason for declining fertility rates. There's tons of data out there. The places with the best fertility rates are in Africa. Why? Low access to contraceptives of course. It's not like they are so rich..... They are miserably poor.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/25 02:40 AM
1	There’s Nothing We Can Do to Raise Fertility Rates, Because Low TFRs are Just a Result of Modernity Yes but we don't tax their net worth. They get taxed on income. Net worth is usually not liquid. Its usually stocks and other holdings. If you look at how much the average American consumes. When it comes to goods and services. You'll realize that the entire country is insanely wealthy. The common poor person in America has better access to goods and services than kings and queens did just 200 years ago. That wealth comes from technology, from organization, from means of production. For this we …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/25 02:16 AM
1	There’s Nothing We Can Do to Raise Fertility Rates, Because Low TFRs are Just a Result of Modernity Raising the taxes on the rich is nearly impossible No it's not. It's very easy. As demonstrated by the fact that they pay the vast majority of taxes. If what you were saying was true. Middle and lower class would be taxed to death. Which they are not. They pay very little. The reason the tax breaks always seem to be for the wealthy is because we already don't tax the middle and lower class that much. There's nothing left to cut there.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/25 01:11 AM
1	There’s Nothing We Can Do to Raise Fertility Rates, Because Low TFRs are Just a Result of Modernity Poor people have the most kids. But considering my advice was "No income taxes for 18 years" for parents. Clearly I do think that monetary incentives would be a good approach.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/25 07:33 PM
1	There’s Nothing We Can Do to Raise Fertility Rates, Because Low TFRs are Just a Result of Modernity They still pay the vast majority of taxes. You said the middle class was some important tax base. No it's not. They constitute less than 11% of the total tax revenue. Rich people pay massive taxes through corporate taxes as well. The corporations they own have to pay taxes as well. They also own a lot of real estate that they pay taxes on. This whole "the rich are so evil" is just a bunch of socialist drivel. That only hurts society in the long run. But yeah back to original topic. If the middle…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/25 06:45 PM
1	There’s Nothing We Can Do to Raise Fertility Rates, Because Low TFRs are Just a Result of Modernity State enforced prenups. Meaning if you go to court afterwards and she was on that visa. It's an automatic denial. You don't even have to sign anything. It's just there already as part of the visa.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/25 06:33 PM
1	There’s Nothing We Can Do to Raise Fertility Rates, Because Low TFRs are Just a Result of Modernity Absolutely not. Upper class pay the vast majority of the taxes. https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/so-how-much-do-the-rich-actually-pay-in-taxes-high-earners-effective-tax-rate-trump-tax-cuts-government-spending-internal-revenue-service The rich pay by far the most. The top 25% earners pay 89% of the taxes. That means the bottom 75% pay just 11%. The entire middle class is under 75%.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/25 06:27 PM
1	There’s Nothing We Can Do to Raise Fertility Rates, Because Low TFRs are Just a Result of Modernity So have each marriage done under this visa come with a compulsive prenup. That seems like a fair compromise. If the woman leaves him in the dust she gets nothing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/25 06:22 PM
3	Why do we as a society make up these random fallacies about women? Because all of those are categorically true. For example for every male strip club there are dozens if not 100s of female strip clubs. If anything this major disparity is often cited as a clear example of the difference between the sexes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/25 05:20 PM
2	There’s Nothing We Can Do to Raise Fertility Rates, Because Low TFRs are Just a Result of Modernity Even with that. If you're getting an extra $20,000 a year that is a pretty decent incentive. Most people are not doing a $ calculation when deciding on whether they want to have kids. Most people just want to have kids and often push it back for financial concerns or career path concerns. An extra $20,000 that you know you wouldn't have to pay if you did something you want to do anyway. That's a pretty good incentive in my opinion. Daycare vouchers would be good too. Public anything is garbage q…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/25 04:03 PM
1	There’s Nothing We Can Do to Raise Fertility Rates, Because Low TFRs are Just a Result of Modernity Where do you live San Francisco? If you live in a high cost of living area you also probably make more $ thus you'd receive a bigger payout from the "no income tax" clause.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/25 03:38 PM
1	There’s Nothing We Can Do to Raise Fertility Rates, Because Low TFRs are Just a Result of Modernity Huh?????? We're talking about improving fertility rates what are you talking about?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/25 02:50 PM
0	There’s Nothing We Can Do to Raise Fertility Rates, Because Low TFRs are Just a Result of Modernity All those countries have shit fertility rates as well. https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/total-fertility-rate/country-comparison/	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/25 02:43 PM
1	There’s Nothing We Can Do to Raise Fertility Rates, Because Low TFRs are Just a Result of Modernity You raise taxes on everyone else of course. And no it wouldn't be "in excess of 100%". Probably just a couple of points in reality. We collect most of our taxes from the upper class. You would have to tax the middle class a little more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/25 01:31 PM
1	There’s Nothing We Can Do to Raise Fertility Rates, Because Low TFRs are Just a Result of Modernity Nonsense. I take my daughter to an expensive daycare. It costs $1000 a month. That does put a dent in my pocket. But $2000 would easily cover 2 kids. If not 3 because as they get older it gets cheaper. Especially after VPK kicks in.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/25 01:08 PM
1	There’s Nothing We Can Do to Raise Fertility Rates, Because Low TFRs are Just a Result of Modernity nah...... Some relationships don't work out. You can't do that. We'd have to screen the girls really well to make sure they are not visa scammers and actually want a real relationship. How you would do that... I dunno.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/25 01:07 PM
1	There’s Nothing We Can Do to Raise Fertility Rates, Because Low TFRs are Just a Result of Modernity Poor people have more kids because they tend to make poor life choices in general. Not using condoms. Having sex way too early. All that good stuff. But unless we plan on encouraging our high school students to stop using condoms. That is not exactly a good approach. I'm talking about $ incentives. There is no question it would improve fertility rates. The question is how much. The problem for a lot of professionals is that having a kid gets in the way of their career. Women who are on some fast…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/25 12:41 PM
0	There’s Nothing We Can Do to Raise Fertility Rates, Because Low TFRs are Just a Result of Modernity It benefits the women too. A woman doctor can work for many years. They can work well into their 60s and sometimes even 70s. The child will only make her miss 6-12 months. They don't exactly have a hard time affording daycare or even a personal babysitter. So it's not going to be years like you're projecting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/25 12:32 PM
1	There’s Nothing We Can Do to Raise Fertility Rates, Because Low TFRs are Just a Result of Modernity A lot of them would pair bond and never leave their partner. Humans do this thing called "pair bonding". I'm sure some would be scammy cunts and do what you say. We could throw their asses in prison or deport them. But then again some relationships just don't work out without any malice involved. So I dunno.... Probably wouldn't do anything to them. Just the cost of doing business. When dealing with people some with be liars and shitbags no matter who it is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/25 12:29 PM
0	There’s Nothing We Can Do to Raise Fertility Rates, Because Low TFRs are Just a Result of Modernity And destroy our economy in the process. The mega rich is why we live better than everyone else. They produce the most wealth. Wealth redistribution is very toxic to an economy. The rich already pay the vast majority of the taxes anyway. A typical poor neighborhood contributes less than 1 billionaire CEO. And certainly far less when you consider all the food stamps and other free shit they get. They are getting more than they put in, in most cases.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/25 12:26 PM
–	Dating is 50% biology 50%social conditioning, and they mix together: It is somewhat malleable. But within certain limits. You can get a guy who likes short skinny latina women. And over time get him to like short skinny asian women. With enough exposure. As long as he finds enough of the patterns that his brain is searching for in a mate. He may start to prefer asians over latinas. But you'll never get someone who innately prefers fit women (the average guy) to prefer obese women. That is not possible. Anymore than trying to get them to like dogs or chimpanzees. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/25 12:22 PM
2	Women's sexuality works differently than men's sexuality... Pair bonding. Older couples pair bonded and don't want to leave each other. We don't have a way to detect women being infertile. So we don't. It doesn't have to be perfect to be effective. Men attracted to older women is just a statistical deviation. Surely happens. Doesn't mean it's the norm. Yes on average our sexual responses are catered towards reproduction which means we favor fertility and youth. We're not talking about conscious choices here. I'm explaining why on average men tend to pref…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/25 12:19 PM
1	There’s Nothing We Can Do to Raise Fertility Rates, Because Low TFRs are Just a Result of Modernity It would not collapse the tax system. Most of the taxes are paid by rich people anyway. Most of the single childless people are in middle class.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/25 12:16 PM
-2	There’s Nothing We Can Do to Raise Fertility Rates, Because Low TFRs are Just a Result of Modernity hahaha. I posited that a "young attractive fit fertile woman Visa" should be a thing. Bring women here who want to find husbands.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/25 11:33 PM
3	There’s Nothing We Can Do to Raise Fertility Rates, Because Low TFRs are Just a Result of Modernity You're talking about Hungary. I'm talking about United States. Totally different ball game. You give some Doctor family with a household income of $500,000 a year who pays $200,000 a year to Uncle Sam. A way to earn an extra $200,000 a year doing something their bodies and brains probably want to do anyway. And the result will be a lot better than Hungary. Yes we'd probably want to help people pair up as well. I agree. Not having to pay income taxes for 18 years is a pretty good incentive to do …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/25 11:32 PM
2	Women's sexuality works differently than men's sexuality... I completely disagree. Money represents resources. It's someone who can take care of her and the young. Which is why money and status matters to begin with. Now money itself isn't going to make the girl wet for you. But what does make a girl wet is her boyfriend/husband. And women like to date guys with a lot of money. So indirectly it does.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/25 11:24 PM
4	There’s Nothing We Can Do to Raise Fertility Rates, Because Low TFRs are Just a Result of Modernity Sure you can. Make parents completely tax exempt from income tax. Until the child is 18. That would encourage precisely the type of people we want to encourage to have kids. High earners and high achievers. We've tried money incentives. But it's always been half ass. Doing this would actually improve things. Would it completely fix the issue? Probably not. But it sure would go a long way towards. Best part is the poor people who already have good fertility rates. Are not really affected by this.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/25 11:21 PM
2	Women's sexuality works differently than men's sexuality... The rule of thumb is. On average: Males: Attracted to signs of fertility and youth. Which we shorthand as "physical appearance". Females: Attracted to some combination of looks, money and status. The "some" is important because it can vary a lot from one woman to another. This is due to biological differences. Most prominently pregnancy. So all your "leadership qualities" and "masculine behavior" is just signs of a high status male. In the past when we ran around the woods with small groups of a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/25 09:59 PM
1	Dating is 50% biology 50%social conditioning, and they mix together: I disagree. I don't think it's that malleable at all. At some point the woman is just too fat. Exposure to fat women isn't going to make you more attracted to them anymore than constant exposure to Chimps at a zoo would have you develop a Chimp fetish. Some of these things are just hard wired into us. You could potentially fix gay men by just showing them pictures of hot women for days and weeks. I'm sure they have tried and probably completely failed. They have tried to add fat women to posters…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/25 02:47 PM
1	True alpha men are extremely rare Seems a bit conspiratory theory territory There's a well known genetic anomally. That accurately predicts when someone will end up in prison. But we're not really looking for it and most people don't know anything about it..... I know that other genetic anomalies have very small prevalence. Even smaller than 1 out of 1000 in many cases. Why that one in particular would be more common, have such a significant predictive function and simultaneously most people not know about it. Seems far fetched.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/25 02:23 PM
0	True alpha men are extremely rare The prevalence is way too small. 1 out of 1,000 according to google. Also doesn't make sense why it would be the most common among poor communities. I'm sure a lot of them do end up in prison. But most prisoners are not XYY.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/25 01:27 PM
2	True alpha men are extremely rare I suppose there are different kinds. The sort of "Alpha males" us regular folk typically run into are the criminal aggressive kind. You can say Putin is an alpha male. Even though just about any young male can kick his ass. No one actually will. But how often do you actually talk to people with 1000s of soldiers dedicated to protecting them? Probably never. So yeah your regular run of the mill Alpha Male is just Deebo. Some big muscular dude with huge bones that knows how to fight and refuses to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/25 02:12 AM
2	True alpha men are extremely rare People who are aggressive jackasses who don't take no shit are "socially respected". Nobody fucks with them. But their necessity to constantly react aggressively very often causes them to end up in prison. A "true alpha" is a very toxic person you don't want in your life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/25 01:56 AM
2	True alpha men are extremely rare Prisons are full of alpha males. True alpha males. The kind of guys you would never want to disrespect. Of course they are toxic pieces of shit and almost always belong there.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/25 12:29 AM
1	CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectification https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S109051381730315X There are studies on this. Women were found to be 1000 times more sensitive to salary information when grading faces compared to men. Not 10 times, not even 100 times. A THOUSAND TIMES. There's many other studies like this. Yes it's part of the package. But the whole "having a package" is also somewhat of a woman thing. Most men just need the girl to be pretty. The rest is just "possibly disqualifying factors". Such as if sh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 11:44 PM
-4	CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectification I never said pair bonding is not a thing. It obviously is. It's a biologic trait of humans. We pair bond to raise children together. Couples that are pair bonded are often not interested in other sexual partners. Even if they are physically attracted to them. And yes of course we would have went up to 0.7 civilization or whatever. The goal is to survive. Having more abundance and technology significantly helps with that. Reproduction is just a key component of survival. Humans only live so many …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 05:02 PM
0	CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectification Everything about status and money is socially constructed. None of that is natural or innate. We recreate this society each day anew, a prison of our own making. What utter nonsense. Access to resources is not something we made up. It occurs in many other species too. No matter what you use for currency some apes will have more stuff than others. Our ability as social creatures fosters the concept of private property and private resources. It's not unique to humans. In many other species males w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 03:24 PM
1	CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectification The very first one. They rated guys faces and gave them higher ratings based on salary. Do you expect them to attach sensors to their vaginas and measure the response instead? They do that with guys a lot. Not sure if they ever do it with women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 03:14 PM
1	CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectification If your theory was true, why is Luigi Mangione being lusted after, but the CEO of United Healthcare was only laughed at? Did that CEO not have women craving his attention? Because you are expecting something different from what I am describing. First of all I never said that attractive men don't have women creaming over him. Which is the case with Luigi. Second of all I never said that women masturbate to pictures of wealthy men. Think of it this way. If some super hot cheerleader chick wants to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 03:07 PM
1	CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectification There are studies on this shit https://www.westernsydney.edu.au/newscentre/news_centre/story_archive/2012/its_not_about_the_money_research_reveals_women_are_more_interested_in_a_mans_earning_capacity_than_the_size_of_his_wallet https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S109051381730315X We found that ratings of attractiveness were around 1000 times more sensitive to salary for females rating males, compared to males rating females I could probably find 100 more if I took the time to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 02:54 PM
2	CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectification Sure mostly because males have dual mating strategy. They will gladly fuck a woman they have no intention of pairing up with. Unlike women who on average tend to want a relationship from the dude they are fucking.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 02:46 PM
2	CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectification The thing is. Average looking American guys will travel to Colombia, Phillipines or in the past to Ukraine. Get the same exact treatment from far more attractive than them women. And get told that they are gold diggers. Some of them are. But not all of them. A lot of them are just regular women who are innately attracted to money/status. The key is being able to tell the users apart from real women. Which is not always easy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 02:13 PM
1	CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectification https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S109051381730315X They've done studies like this We found that ratings of attractiveness were around 1000 times more sensitive to salary for females rating males, compared to males rating females. Its difficult because stated preferences are often quite different from what people are actually choosing. When pressed most men will say shit like "i care about sense of humor and what education she has". But in reality when you look at the skanks …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 02:06 PM
0	CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectification Right and that tends to be the disagreement. I think that money/status is part of the innate attraction switches. Involuntary reaction that can lead to sexual attraction. Yes most people couple up within the same socioeconomic status. I don't disagree. That doesn't dispute what I am saying one bit. I can 100% guarantee you if we looked at "mismatches" where one side makes much less than the other. You'd find 10 males making more for every couple where there is a woman making more. But I doubt an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 02:02 PM
2	CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectification Sure I don't dispute that. The thing I dispute is that all women who date guys with status/money are automatically hookers (whether long or short term). I'm saying that women being attracted to status/money is no different than men being attracted to nice asses and tits. It's just an innate attractor. By no means do I think that hookers are attracted to all of their rich clients. Hookers in general are completely useless for relationships. Which includes sugar babies which are just long term hoo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 01:37 PM
1	CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectification Elon Musk has like 12 children. He's doing just fine by himself. Ultimately it's the result that matters. Yes many women would gladly get into a long term relationship with Elon Musk. Young and attractive one's.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 01:34 PM
2	CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectification I think the whole "objectification" argument is silly to begin with. Everyone gets objectified if they are attractive. That's just normal human behavior. It just happens a lot more to women because of how human males operate. It would be like some Chad crying about "oh no why do they treat me like some piece of meat". Almost like a fucking parody. It happens to guys too we just don't give a shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 01:32 PM
-1	CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectification who tell them that their whole purpose is to find a man and make babies It's not innate to men. Some men do that yes. But they are usually similar to female prostitutes. ' Women are outperforming men in higher education by a wide margin now. And fewer women than ever are interested in having children, at least in the developed world. Doesn't that go perfectly in line with what I am saying. Women want a man who is at the very least on the same social status/money with them. If there is too few of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 01:20 PM
-3	CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectification Because increasing number of women are earning more of course.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 01:18 PM
-21	CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectification who tell them that their whole purpose is to find a man and make babies That is true for both sexes. Our only true purpose is to have children. From a biologic point of view. For every Murkel and Thatcher there are 1000s who just want a good home.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 01:05 PM
-6	CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectification But most women are swayed by money and status. It's just a biologic difference between the sexes. The rule of thumb is as follows (ON AVERAGE): Males = attracted to physical appearance. Usually signs of youth and fertility. Females = attracted to a combination of looks, money and status The difference comes from pregnancy. So while some women are down right prostituting themselves. A lot of them are just responding to their natural innate attraction switches. An average looking guy with a lot of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 01:03 PM
2	Dating is 50% biology 50%social conditioning, and they mix together: Nurture plays a complimentary role for sure. My argument is against people who think it's entirely nurture. Not that it is 100% nurture. The OP had it right. It's probably 50/50 just like everything else.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 12:13 PM
7	Dating is 50% biology 50%social conditioning, and they mix together: If people could choose what they find attractive. There would be practically no involuntary single people on the planet. The core problem is that often times people lack MUTUAL ATTRACTION. If attraction is a choice. Let me ask you a legit question. Could you pick out some old fat smelly homeless man say "I will henceforth find you sexually attractive" snap your fingers and all of a sudden he looks like a really hot chick? Can you do that? Cause if you can that is pretty cool. I imagine that is a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 03:18 AM
1	Dating is 50% biology 50%social conditioning, and they mix together: Oman, Pakistan, North Korea..... Yeah underdeveloped shitholes. Who the fuck is enslaved in Poland? What on earth are they talking about? What exactly do those numbers mean? Cause North Korea is almost 100% enslaved. If you're not a politician or some connected person. You're a fucking slave. I'd be curious to see how on earth they came up with those figures. The only slaves in Poland are perhaps sexually trafficked women. But that is very rare nowadays and extremely illegal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 02:40 AM
0	Dating is 50% biology 50%social conditioning, and they mix together: No we don't. There is no slaves in the developed world. Only slaves are in miserable poor shitholes that are severely underdeveloped. Which is not a surprised since as soon as you develop slavery becomes toxic to your economy. It significantly helped the survival of the economy of the people who were the slavers. Which was often entire civilizations. Romans had slavery throughout. It did a lot to help feed the Roman population. All of it not just the slave masters. Humans deciding the "others" a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 02:32 AM
3	Dating is 50% biology 50%social conditioning, and they mix together: I personally tried dating people I was not physically attracted to. Just because my friends were and were egging me on. It was utter misery. For both of us really. So I wonder how much of that "not initially attracted to" has more to do with they had a better option or a former lover they were still chasing. And didn't necessarily find him/her completely unattractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 02:06 AM
0	Dating is 50% biology 50%social conditioning, and they mix together: We had slaves because we thought it made economic sense, not because it helped us survive as a species or individual. We were right back then. It did make economic sense. It makes no sense now because of how much more advanced our economy is. Damn near every large civilization had some form of slavery. Sometimes outright. Sometimes it was serfdom. There's a reason for it. It was functional. Despicable... but functional.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 01:57 AM
1	Dating is 50% biology 50%social conditioning, and they mix together: I think it's important to recognize that some things are just more human nature than others. If 98% of human ethnicities prefer a certain setup. Then it's fairly accurate to call it more natural. Even if 2% don't agree. Trying to pretend it's all socially conditioned is useless and inaccurate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 12:07 AM
-1	Dating is 50% biology 50%social conditioning, and they mix together: Biologically ethnicities are different. You have 100s of different ethnicities on the planet. Maybe 98% of them behave one way. And then you have oddballs where a woman is a cum receptacle for many men and they are fine with that. It's called divergent evolution. There's a reason why when they talk about these sorts of things it's always some oddball tribe in the Amazon somewhere. You are not very likely to find this sort of behavior widespread in any developed nation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/25 11:47 PM
9	Dating is 50% biology 50%social conditioning, and they mix together: The best argument for human sexuality being more biologic than anything else is our inability to choose who we find attractive. It is almost entirely instinctual. In fact if it wasn't we wouldn't even care that much about it because anyone who wants a partner could easily find one. Society can spend many years trying to convince you to find fat women attractive. Put all sorts of obese women on poster boards. And it doesn't work worth a shit on a large % of men. Yet you put one sexy fit model on …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/25 11:42 PM
1	Dating is 50% biology 50%social conditioning, and they mix together: The reason human behavior and human culture is so strange is the same. Both our culture and our genome evolves much slower than our environment changes. Due to how fast our technology has improved. We're still a bunch of naked apes running around in a scarce forest starving our asses off. At least in our minds. Soon as you realize that human behavior starts to make a lot more sense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/25 11:37 PM
1	Dating is 50% biology 50%social conditioning, and they mix together: Cultures have a survival of the fittest aspect. If your culture is weaker eventually it gets conquered by a superior one. Slavery makes no sense in the modern economy where you need a specialized and highly flexible work force. But when everyone was working on the fields doing the same shit all day long. It didn't matter if they were free or not. Ciggs and alcohol are just items that hack our brains reward system into thinking they are doing something productive for survival. Modern consumption …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/25 11:35 PM
0	It’s not unreasonable to ask your partner to stop watching porn It took a while for the tobacco stuff to come out. People used to smoke everywhere. Their home, their car, public transport, airplanes, hotels, restaurants, even elevators. Sooner or later it will come out in a more definite way (cause it's already known) that frequent masturbation to porn causes significant damage. The people who are doing ok despite using porn are just not as damaged. Diminished sex drive and far more importantly unrealistic sexual standards in mates. Which affects both sexes …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/25 03:59 PM
5	It’s not unreasonable to ask your partner to stop watching porn I’ve always found a cuck element to the fact you’re getting off on watching someone else sleep with a woman you find attractive, but that’s not fully relevant here. Two totally different things. When you bate to a chick getting fucked. You're imagining that it's your dick doing the penetrating. That's why the POV is very often the dick going in. Not the guy going urf and arf. Where's watching your lover have sex with another dude.... I dunno what the fuck that's about. That's some masochism shit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/25 03:31 PM
1	The primary consequence of toxic masculinity is crime Yes I believe in the Bell Curves. But I don't think they are as different as some of the earlier studies suggested. Mainly because our way of testing has no ability to discern between genetic strength and "how well developed a brain" is. You can't remove that element because of the way the brain works. Structural differences occur with better development. Which is why the difference between the bell curve of African Americans and some Subsaharan tribe. Is much bigger than the differences between…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/25 01:57 PM
2	The primary consequence of toxic masculinity is crime 140 puts you in the .48% percentile. There are 56,000,000 black people in US. So even if it was half with .24% there's still 1000s that have higher IQ than 140. You also have to remember a decent % of black people are imports from places like Nigeria. When we use the proper immigration practices we tend to select for higher IQ. So that .48% will actually be higher among the African immigrants.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/25 01:15 PM
3	The primary consequence of toxic masculinity is crime "Nothing to do with ethnicities". Yet around the globe the same exact ethnicities commit the most crime. Including in countries where they are the majority and in power (South Africa). It's a pleasant lie that the West has convinced themselves. That all ethnicities are somehow identical. But it's just not true. Mass migration in Europe has proven it beyond all reasonable doubt. There's no reason to be ascientific for the sake of being politically correct. The differences are small. Your average …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/25 12:12 PM
1	The primary consequence of toxic masculinity is crime sigh you're going to get me banned. Certain "builds" are more conducive for a life of crime. For instance if you're a big dude with big bones and strong muscles. Being aggressive is a lot more useful for you than when you're puny. There are IQ differences between ethnicities. They are not nearly as big as previously thought and they mean very little at the interpersonal level. No matter how smart you are there are probably 1000s of black guys smarter than you (in most cases in your city alone)…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/25 04:18 AM
-2	The primary consequence of toxic masculinity is crime There are other things that play a role that have little or nothing to do with "toxic masculinity". Certain ethnicities are far more likely to be aggressive. Ineffective or down right absent law enforcement encourages crime.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/25 04:10 AM
1	The primary consequence of toxic masculinity is crime You ever consider that's just males being males. We are after all much bigger and stronger. Obviously at least some of that was to fight for dominance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/25 03:55 AM
9	Getting good sex is immensely beneficial for your mental health and sometimes getting into an exciting relationship CAN solve your mental health struggles Unless you're good looking right. The most successful men I knew were all basket cases. No in reality it has little to do with your overall attractiveness. Heck a lot of people are really good at hiding it. We only focus on the few that are incapable of doing so.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 05:48 PM
8	When people say men’s issues are “mental health,” what exactly do men need to get mentally healthy that’s different from what women need? I imagine a big part of the issue is that women tend to be more gregarious by nature. So even though they can and will fall prey to things like video game and social media addiction. They are less likely to live secluded lives. Thus less likely to suffer all the negative consequences that come along with it. Someone who's not gregarious needs a reason to leave the house. Often for men that is chasing vagege. Which for some strange reason society looks down upon "don't go to a weaving club just t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 05:07 PM
5	Getting good sex is immensely beneficial for your mental health and sometimes getting into an exciting relationship CAN solve your mental health struggles I don't know if they were BPD. Probably not. Just terrible people with loads of trauma. Eventually they did have long term relationships. I think he cheated on her over and over and she left him. But he could have just as easily not cheated and still been with her. I don't think most men on this sub who have trouble with women would find it terribly difficult staying faithful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 04:21 PM
3	The promotion of gender wage parity should have been followed by a campaign to upend the importance of the primary male breadwinner role I disagree. If your argument is that some people are reluctant to hire women who may give birth. You may have a point. "taking advantage". That's what everyone does to everyone else for as long as humans have been around. Who in your opinion is not "taking advantage of others"? Where is this mystical mother Theresa?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 04:08 PM
5	The promotion of gender wage parity should have been followed by a campaign to upend the importance of the primary male breadwinner role Sure but subjective based on millions of inputs. That's the beauty of the market it is democratized. If everyone suddenly decided that Big Macs were worth $100. McDonalds would have much bigger wages. As it stands people want to pay as little as possible for that shit. I agree that the West is absolutely going to have to do something about the fertility crisis. Between that, potential for nuclear war and global warming. The fertility crisis is arguable the most pressing. So I won't necessarily a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 04:05 PM
6	The promotion of gender wage parity should have been followed by a campaign to upend the importance of the primary male breadwinner role Not sure about that one. You also have to consider the Variability Hypothesis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variability_hypothesis A lot more very smart men. But also a lot more very dumb men. We see that in practice as well. With women graduating from college more often and our prisons being filled with men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 04:01 PM
3	The promotion of gender wage parity should have been followed by a campaign to upend the importance of the primary male breadwinner role Wages are based on supply/demand. So yeah more people entering the field does tend to drive wages down. Well really its Supply/Demand + value. And who said men don't parent their children? Do you mean stay at home with them when they are first born?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 03:59 PM
11	The promotion of gender wage parity should have been followed by a campaign to upend the importance of the primary male breadwinner role It's mostly caused by women entering low paying fields. Such as teaching and social services. Where's men prioritize higher earning fields such as STEM.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 03:53 PM
-3	The promotion of gender wage parity should have been followed by a campaign to upend the importance of the primary male breadwinner role Once you pair bond. As long as it doesn't fall apart (the bond). You don't want to leave your partner even if they are earning less than you. Just like guys often don't leave their woman when she gets fat. They probably met in college or when they were younger. Where the earning potential isn't quite set and you're basing things more on potential than anything else.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 03:44 PM
-1	Getting good sex is immensely beneficial for your mental health and sometimes getting into an exciting relationship CAN solve your mental health struggles Again that's like telling a hungry person to just not think about food for a little while. Completely pointless advice. Maybe if they snort a bunch of heroin or cocaine they can forget about food. There's no feasible way of accomplishing it otherwise. Yes women tend to want a guy who is wanted by other women. Which is why desperate clingy behavior is often seen as a turn off. But it's much easier to fix that behavior or better yet go somewhere where you are actually wanted (hint hint overseas). …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 03:27 PM
2	Getting good sex is immensely beneficial for your mental health and sometimes getting into an exciting relationship CAN solve your mental health struggles So then what's the problem with people being motivated by a relationship or a pursuit of one?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 03:25 PM
9	Getting good sex is immensely beneficial for your mental health and sometimes getting into an exciting relationship CAN solve your mental health struggles The thing is our diagnosing methods are very rudimentary. So if you're constantly feeling sad because you don't have a life partner. That will likely get diagnosed as any number of things. You might even get some shit prescribed. Getting with a quality partner will instantly fix all those symptoms.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 03:24 PM
1	Getting good sex is immensely beneficial for your mental health and sometimes getting into an exciting relationship CAN solve your mental health struggles Stupid terrible advice. We are all subject to many external motivations. You're hyper focusing on one specific motivation which is pair bonding and having a family. Which is an extremely strong drive for many people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 03:21 PM
16	Getting good sex is immensely beneficial for your mental health and sometimes getting into an exciting relationship CAN solve your mental health struggles Nonsense. The loneliness IS THE PROBLEM. If you remove the loneliness. Everything starts to fix itself. They already dealt with it by being with you in the first place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 03:20 PM
6	Getting good sex is immensely beneficial for your mental health and sometimes getting into an exciting relationship CAN solve your mental health struggles The most successful guys I knew were basket cases. But they had looks and charm to boot. They could have kept any number of those girls around if they wanted to. Despite their shitty behavior. The key to finding a quality partner is improving your own quality. Not fixing something that likely gets fixed by being in a relationship in the first place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 03:18 PM
7	Getting good sex is immensely beneficial for your mental health and sometimes getting into an exciting relationship CAN solve your mental health struggles Don't you know true self delusion is the sexiest attribute. (sarcasm)	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 03:15 PM
4	Getting good sex is immensely beneficial for your mental health and sometimes getting into an exciting relationship CAN solve your mental health struggles Bullshit. bullshit. Bullshit and more bullshit. What you're saying inadvertently is "just sit at home all day and it will come to you". Because for a lot of guys if they are not out there chasing vagege they have no reason to ever leave the house. Chasing vagege doesn't always mean actively pursuing it. It can mean going to the gym and doing shit just for the sake of being social. But you sure as hell never want to be "at peace with it" thats the worst advice ever. That's how you get suicides an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 03:14 PM
–	Post Walls are causing men to be depressed by being unattractive. Seeing post walls lowers men’s testosterone levels, which in turn causes depression. Anecdotally I've hung around a lot of black dudes. Per capita they do seem to be into "bigger" women more often. Obviously not all of them and not even most of them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 05:14 AM
–	Post Walls are causing men to be depressed by being unattractive. Seeing post walls lowers men’s testosterone levels, which in turn causes depression. I know that yo yo dieting is the only thing that works for me. But you're right I've never been obese. Slightly overweight is more like it. Trying to do it slowly is just torture. But doing it fast actually works.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 04:57 AM
–	Post Walls are causing men to be depressed by being unattractive. Seeing post walls lowers men’s testosterone levels, which in turn causes depression. Russias fertility rate was shit long before they started a bunch of useless wars. That didn't help of course. But it's not the primary cause.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 04:50 AM
–	Post Walls are causing men to be depressed by being unattractive. Seeing post walls lowers men’s testosterone levels, which in turn causes depression. The core component of yoyo dieting is severe calorie restriction. If you yo yo a couple of times and then on the 3rd time figure out how to keep it off. By just committing to going to the gym and not eating like a fucking pig. That's still yoyo dieting in most peoples eyes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 04:48 AM
–	Post Walls are causing men to be depressed by being unattractive. Seeing post walls lowers men’s testosterone levels, which in turn causes depression. The argument isn't we should be shaming people for anything. The argument is that nobody should be celebrating being fat. Anymore than people should celebrate smoking cigarettes or getting blacked out drunk.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 04:47 AM
–	Post Walls are causing men to be depressed by being unattractive. Seeing post walls lowers men’s testosterone levels, which in turn causes depression. But there are also specific patterns. Yes there are some women that are into 5 foot guys. But for every one of those there is 100 that prefer taller men. Fat women is one of those. Sure there are some guys into them. But ask any fat woman. They are few and far in between. Black men tend to be into fat women more often... Probably a genetic thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 04:46 AM
–	Post Walls are causing men to be depressed by being unattractive. Seeing post walls lowers men’s testosterone levels, which in turn causes depression. Yes but the problem is yo yo dieting actually works. The trick is figuring out a way to keep it off once you get to the skinny stage. Which basically requires you to have a long term gym going habbit. Which is very good for your heart. You use the first part of the yoyo to get skinny. But you don't let yourself get fat again.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 04:44 AM
–	Post Walls are causing men to be depressed by being unattractive. Seeing post walls lowers men’s testosterone levels, which in turn causes depression. A very small % of men are genuinely attracted to fat women. Weird niches have always been popular. If you looked at porn you'd think regular men were into midgets, puking and all kinds of other weird shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 04:43 AM
–	Post Walls are causing men to be depressed by being unattractive. Seeing post walls lowers men’s testosterone levels, which in turn causes depression. The fertility rate in Russia sucks. So maybe "high T" isn't all it's cracked up to be.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 04:37 AM
–	Post Walls are causing men to be depressed by being unattractive. Seeing post walls lowers men’s testosterone levels, which in turn causes depression. and not to participate in unhealthy behaviors like yo-yo dieting. That's a lot better than always being fat. You always have the option to not go back to being fat once you've lost the weight.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 04:37 AM
–	Post Walls are causing men to be depressed by being unattractive. Seeing post walls lowers men’s testosterone levels, which in turn causes depression. The average guy has no interest in a fat woman. Sure some guys genuinely like them. There is also a lot of guys who dumpster dive and just take anything they can get. Even though they are not particularly attracted to them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 04:32 AM
–	Post Walls are causing men to be depressed by being unattractive. Seeing post walls lowers men’s testosterone levels, which in turn causes depression. So it's not 1) Living secluded lifestyles 2) Consuming large amounts of internet porn from the age of 12 3) Playing video games all the damn time 4) Not leaving the house 5) Not having any hobbies with any women around No no it's none of that. It's old bitches wearing dresses. Which honestly I don't even see that much. Perhaps I just don't notice them. Which I think most guys don't notice them lol. She'd have to be working really hard to get my attention for me to even look her way. Our homes ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 04:29 AM
1	The main problem with many modern men is their need for approval from women sure who is denying that? I don't see how it's relevant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/25 02:26 AM
1	The main problem with many modern men is their need for approval from women How is that relevant to anything? The whole point is that sexual contact and especially pair bonding is a psychological need. Not one that you can just turn off willy nilly. Telling men not to "put pussy on a pedestal" or whatever. Is akin to going to a country full of starving people and telling them that there is more to life than food.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/25 01:47 AM
1	The main problem with many modern men is their need for approval from women But that doesn't matter. Not everything that is instinctually a need is automatically going to kill you. You can live entirely on your own on a deserted island. Eventually you'll go insane from a lack of human contact. Sure you'll survive but nobody wants to live that way. It works the same way with this. Yes you can exist that way. You can exist without eyes or ears or balls or whatever. But no one wants to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/25 01:38 AM
1	The main problem with many modern men is their need for approval from women Im married with kids. No obviously if you had to choose between sex and food you'd choose food. Just like if you had to choose air or food you'd choose air. Just because there is a hierarchy doesn't suddenly make it not a need. Or your brain perceive it lik ea need.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/25 10:13 PM
2	The main problem with many modern men is their need for approval from women Yes through will power you can ignore your natural programming. That is how people lose massive amounts of weight. By fighting their urges. The argument isn't that you can overcome them. The argument is that they are there to begin with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/25 10:11 PM
5	The main problem with many modern men is their need for approval from women We're not beyond shit. We're still animals. Even if people don't like to believe or think about it that way. Try not eating for a few days. See how "beyond" your hunger you get.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/25 12:36 PM
2	The main problem with many modern men is their need for approval from women It is a necessity. Your brain treats it as such. For a simple reason. A species can't survive without reproducing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/25 12:13 PM
–	How would you feel knowing your daughter has done all the naughty things you did with other women? Indifferent. She's going to do it. She's a human after all. I'm far more worried about her doing the other dumb shit I did growing up. I'm lucky to still be here. The sexual stuff is the least of my worries.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/25 03:52 AM
17	The main problem with many modern men is their need for approval from women I think a lot of what is perceived as "blindly seeking female approval" is just men doing the best they can to be desirable. Often bungling it and achieving the opposite.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/25 02:08 AM
4	The main problem with many modern men is their need for approval from women It is needed for survival. Our instincts don't care about us as an individual. They evolved over millions of years. Our instincts guide our behavior. If a human ape does not obsess about reproduction. It will not survive. You can not survive your generation if you don't reproduce. A species can't survive if it doesn't reproduce. The reason we treat sex, pair bonding and having children similar to air, water and other things we need to survive. Is because our survival really does depend on it. Ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/25 02:00 AM
-1	The main problem with many modern men is their need for approval from women How are they not hindered? They have no desire to reproduce. That is like a critical component of being alive. Perhaps our one true "purpose" in living. If you look at it from a biologic point of view. Pretending like that's perfectly normal and no hindrance whatsoever is just dishonest. Why don't we castrate any male below a certain IQ and then just say "their life won't be hindered in any way".	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/25 01:56 AM
8	The main problem with many modern men is their need for approval from women It acts like in some ways. If you are without food or air long enough. It becomes the primary focus of your life. Because you need those things. A relationship where you form a pair bond acts in a lot of the same ways. Except you won't die from it and the desperation doesn't set in as quickly. There are very simple biologic reasons for this. If we didn't have this drive then our race would have died out a long time ago. Imagine a bunch of lazy self serving apes with no obsessive need to reproduc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/25 01:49 AM
13	The main problem with many modern men is their need for approval from women Be in a relationship with one. You guys are way too sensitive about wording.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/25 01:43 AM
6	The main problem with many modern men is their need for approval from women As others have eloquently said. There are bling people out there. Doesn't mean we should scoop our eyes out lol. I couldn't have said it better myself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/25 01:42 AM
22	The main problem with many modern men is their need for approval from women Having a woman is like air or food. Most of us have plenty of air and food. So we don't really about it all that much. It's just there. But if you ever had a shortage of either. It becomes rather important. Now obviously being alone is not going to kill you. And the sense of dread and desperation doesn't set in nearly as quickly. But it's really the same thing. About the only thing men can do is drugs or self castration in order to make it go away. Otherwise it's just a natural biologic urge. Th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/25 12:59 AM
1	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. I dont think hypergamy is wrong. Heck I think everyone is hypergamus. Including men. I think what they are really observing is the differences in how males and females select partners.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 10:33 PM
1	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. No I mean if it's not up and across. What would the women who already have money, status and looks do..... If you're already maxed out on all fronts..... I'm asking your understanding of the idea you are refuting. If you don't understand the idea and instead refute some false interpretation of it. That is called a straw man. Sometimes intentional. Maybe in your case unintentional .	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 10:31 PM
1	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. Im sure there are anti-vaxer, kkk and flat earth groups too. A bunch of nutty morons on the internet doesn't prove anything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 10:29 PM
-1	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. so what do women who already have looks and money/status do then? People focus on the "up" part for various reasons. You do it as a straw man. Incels do it as a personal grievance. But it's always been up and across.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 12:09 PM
-1	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. My daughter has access to any toys she wants. Yet she prefers the dolls and the babies. I think it's more innate than anything else. Males and females have different attraction switches Males: Primarily on signs of genetic health, physical health and fertility. AKA physical attractiveness. Females: A combination of physical attractiveness, money and status. Females are different due to pregnancy. Now that "money and status" can manifest itself in all kinds of ways. Some women are really attracte…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 01:41 AM
1	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. Low IQ does not cause poverty - social darwinism has been thrown out of the window for quite some time. How do you figure? We had people at Wendy's that couldn't figure out how to run sandwiches after months of training. They were outliers even there. But how on earth do you expect someone like that to ever make a decent living? They pretty much have to work at some government job that prioritizes just paying people over getting anything done. Not hard to see how a large % of people like that wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 01:35 AM
0	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. Yes I got 2. Well 1 is already born and one almost there. I only say the word "addiction" to parallel it with the gym addiction. People get addicted to going to the gym. But in almost all cases it is very very very good for them. Nobody is going to shit on you for being in great shape. Parenting is a lot like that. It's a ton of work. But it's very rewarding.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 01:24 AM
1	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. I never said it had to be a full time role. You can both have a job and be a mother. That's what daycares are for.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 01:22 AM
-1	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. It's the other way around. Low IQ causes poverty. Unless they are malnourished or something. Which is very rare. Your parents to have to be fucking crackheads for you to be malnourished living in America.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 01:22 AM
1	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. Poverty doesn’t help its victims embrace good decision making. Poor people have the most kids to temporaryily bring fulfillment to their life, to try and get more government assistance, to follow religious beliefs, or because they have abysmal sex education (I’m sure there are more reasons). Just lazy impulsive decision making. The same reason they are poor to begin with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 01:16 AM
-1	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. Your children is what gives you massive amounts of dopamine. It had to be that way. Otherwise parents wouldn't have taken care of their kids back when we lived in the jungle and everything was significantly more dire. When starvation and other maladies were very common. Without that big dopamine hit you get looking at your kids. The human race would have ceased to exist a very long time ago. It's like going to the gym. A very good addiction to have. One that is very natural and very good for you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 01:15 AM
0	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. Everyone tells each other. That's what we call culture. You made an interesting point. Maybe some innate survival drive is making women choose career. I'll have to think about that one. But yeah generally speaking our culture needs to go back to praising mothers. Praising families. Praising married couples raising children together. And prioritizing forming families. Because it's the bedrock of our civilization. It's not just women. Both men and women should be prioritizing it heavily.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 01:09 AM
-2	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. Yeah but it's also a very natural and healthy drug. Like heroin only it's good for you. For obvious biologic reasons....	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 01:01 AM
-4	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. I think they are being misled in this way. It's no longer politically correct to tell women that being a mother is the greatest thing and that it's what they should aspire to be first and foremost.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 01:00 AM
1	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. Yet poor people have the most kids... They should prioritize family and children. That's one of my biggest shticks lol. They are prioritizing bullshit. A man knocking up a broke woman doesn't matter if he has a good job.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 12:59 AM
-1	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. The theory of hypergamy states across or up. What you're describing is "across". Meaning you're on a similar level. So well within the framework.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 10:47 PM
-3	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. Is that not the case? Women are prioritizing doing some repetitive nonsense that they hate (a job). Over having a family. All because its somehow empowering.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 10:46 PM
1	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. "want her to" or "select based on". Those are very different things. What turns a man on is a pretty face and a nice body. Whether she has a job or not.... Yeah sure you'd prefer a chick that makes $. But it's not going to get your pecker hard.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 10:23 PM
6	Reframing Rape: Why Redefining the Crime Could Serve Justice Better Uhhhhhh. Do I really have to explain this one to you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 10:11 PM
-1	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. I don't think you guys get it. All these conversations are about average human behaviors. The average human male is attracted to physical appearance first and foremost. All that "cheating on pregnant wife" and "molesting ones children" is completely and utterly irrelevant. Just random bullshit that has 0 correlation to what I'm saying. Humans pair bond. Once they do they often remain monogamous and don't cheat. And surely don't sexually attack their children. That is extremely anti human nature.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 09:41 PM
0	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. Yes but we're talking about sexual instincts. Those evolved over time. Most of that time spent in prehistoric times. Not in the modern world.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 09:19 PM
1	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. But if she's not physically attractive. In a lot of cases men won't even bother.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 09:18 PM
-1	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. It is an innate biologic trait. Due to pregnancy. Yes it was the only way to move up in society. Yes it is in decline in the Western world. You know what else is massively in decline? Fertility....	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 09:14 PM
1	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. If she's attractive. Men don't care where she works. A bum is usually a dirty drug addict. So yeah that's probably going to be a turn off. For a lot of guys anyway. If she's attractive she can probably still get a lot of dick even if she's a homeless junky. Thing is homeless junkies tend to look like shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 09:10 PM
-1	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. Yes my only motivation is my family. Pussy is kind of like the first step to all that. I don't know why King Geroge III did the things he did. Probably because he enjoyed quality pussy and having a ton of stuff. Stuff being goods and services.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 09:09 PM
-2	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. I disagree. It's a difference between how males and females select partners Males: mostly on physical appeareance Females: On a combination of physical appearance, money and status The tendency to pick partners with higher money and status is innate to females. Because of the fact that they get pregnant. The fact that they are the weaker sex that typically nurtures the children while the males fight for dominance in the tribe and amongst other tribes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 08:46 PM
-1	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. Yes but that's well within the realm of "hypergamy theory". If you're more attractive than her. She won't care as much about your money and status. Most guys are not that physically attractive though. Money and status is something you can achieve. Being good looking.... a lot of that is up to your genes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 08:36 PM
1	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. The link you provided tends to agree with the assertion that hypergamy is a real thing. I think it's often misstated. People have all sorts of opinions on what it means. It makes simple sense though. If you're a female you have to think long term. You get pregnant. Partnering up with some useless asshole is going to be very costly. So of course they are going to shoot either for someone more attractive then them or someone with higher money/status then them. That's just a no brainer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 08:33 PM
-2	CMV: A romantic relationship between a very rich woman and a man with an average salary is not only unfeasible, but also un-natural. Because Power = more stuff = more pussy They want the stuff and the pussy. Stanford Prison experiment has been debunked. Men are not attracted to powerful women. I mean I'm sure some are. But on average they are not. It's not something that attracts men. Men in the 1990s were not color printing pictures of Oprah to take home to masturbate to. They were printing some random naked chick who they thought was hot. HOT.... not powerful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 08:28 PM
-1	RP/BP ppl on PPD say women should choose better, but they really don’t want that. You sure that's not a self filtration system. Most shitty mothers are also not going to bother getting a degree. The low IQ criminally minded aggressive types.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 07:13 PM
0	RP/BP ppl on PPD say women should choose better, but they really don’t want that. Yes but our sexual instincts are still from 100,000 years ago. So while we adapt to the new environment in terms of producing goods and services. Our ability to adapt to the sexual environment is much worse. Because of how instinctual it is. If guys could just make themselves attracted to fat women for example.... There wouldn't be an incel movement. They would all just date fat women and not even think about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 07:12 PM
1	RP/BP ppl on PPD say women should choose better, but they really don’t want that. Sure. But it takes a very long time for stuff like that to adapt. Genetics changes much slower than our current environment. We're still mostly apes running around a jungle. Even though the jungle has turned into cities.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 06:44 PM
0	RP/BP ppl on PPD say women should choose better, but they really don’t want that. When did I say "they need a provider"? I said that the male is historically the provider in our species. That is just how our species evolved. That is what our sexual instincts are based around. That's talking about millions of years of evolution (even before we were humans with our primate ancestors). It says nothing about the current environment. We didn't evolve in this environment where goods and services are in such immense abundance (relative to our past).	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 06:33 PM
17	Reframing Rape: Why Redefining the Crime Could Serve Justice Better Sex is not just another activity. I like to use this example. I'm a landlord leasing an apartment for $2000 a month. I put an ad in the newspaper saying "2 bed room 1 bath apartment for rent $2000 a month. You can also give me a blowjob once a week and pay only $1000 a month. But you have to be physically attractive". Do you honestly believe people would ever see this as no big deal? Sex is very special. It's the only activity that can create a life. It's a deeply personal and intimate act. Pret…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 06:30 PM
2	RP/BP ppl on PPD say women should choose better, but they really don’t want that. It's an incredibly difficult skill to read people. Takes many years to master. A woman who can read a guy. Who understands what a good partner is. Is far more likely not to end up with an abusive pookie or some shitty guy who will not satisfy her. Career never comes first. Career is just a means to an end. A job is something they have to pay you to do. Most people enjoy raising their kids and spending time with their family (there are some that do not obviously).	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 06:22 PM
-3	RP/BP ppl on PPD say women should choose better, but they really don’t want that. Sure but it's a very difficult skill. If you're focusing on college. You're not focusing on "is this guy right for me". The idea is that family life comes first. Then some dipshit career. Men should focus on career first. Then family life later. As they are the provider in our species. Those are not arguments that feminists want to hear. But it doesn't make it not true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 06:11 PM
-2	RP/BP ppl on PPD say women should choose better, but they really don’t want that. It depends how you frame it. Let's assume 2 things are true. 1) Figuring out a good partner is a skill. It's a general socialization skill. Being able to tell if someone is lying. Being able to tell if someone is a user. If someone is truly into you. That sort of thing. 2) Family life is by far the most important thing a human will experience. Whether man or woman. Wife/Husband and kids is the primary source of meaning. So if you look at it from that perspective. Women who spend their most ferti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 05:58 PM
1	Q4M: for those males struggling with dating, would you marry Lily Phillips? They are judging her by that video. She looks pretty terrible in that. But if you google her. She looks way better when she has little or no make up on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 04:46 PM
2	Q4M: for those males struggling with dating, would you marry Lily Phillips? She looks like absolute dogshit in that video. You should find some pictures where she doesn't have 38 pounds of make up on her face. She looks way better. A lot of these guys saying NO are full of shit in my opinion. It would certainly be a lot to overcome in the disgust factor. But ultimately she's sexy and that will get a lot of guys to forget about a lot of shit. I personally wouldn't but I'm married.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 04:05 PM
43	Why do men crave romantic interest so much? Human nature. We are programmed biologically to put tremendous emphasis on reproduction. If we didn't the human race would have ceased to exist a long time ago.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 06:39 PM
1	Men who don't want to get married, why? https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/04/20/how-the-american-middle-class-has-changed-in-the-past-five-decades/ Marriage is good for the individuals getting married as well Particularly if they have children.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 02:24 PM
1	Men who don't want to get married, why? https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/04/20/how-the-american-middle-class-has-changed-in-the-past-five-decades/ Look at the number of married vs unmarried Another major thing is the metrics for children. They have far less criminal tendencies, psychologic issues, pretty much better in every metric possible when raised in a household with 2 parents. Which is what marriage was originally for. Raising children together.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 02:23 PM
5	Men who don't want to get married, why? He's wrong. It's worth it. And it's worth being in relationships. Being single forever is a shitty miserable existence. You gotta remember he's telling you this as someone who got married 3 times. He doesn't know the other side because he successfully avoided it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 04:35 AM
6	Men who don't want to get married, why? The perception they are trying to create is that marriage is bad and not worth it. Yet here's a person who got married and it worked out. But yet their divorce rate is even higher than the 40% you mentioned. It is absolutely worth it. Even if it often doesn't work out. Shit if you look at how many relationships the average decent looking person is in. Almost all of them end in some sort of heartbreak for someone. But that doesn't mean they are not worth it. They are very much worth it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 04:29 AM
5	Men who don't want to get married, why? Yes some people get divorced. It happens I'm not denying it. What I was saying earlier is that the 40% figure is highly misleading. A lot of people get married twice and their second marriage works out. But because they got divorced the first time technically they have a 50% divorce rate. You see what I mean? You're absolutely taking a risk in any relationship. But marriage is something pretty much everyone should strive for. That's what I mean by the destruction of our culture. The country is m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 04:25 AM
–	Womens SMV =/= her physical attractiveness, a woman's SMV is a representation of how easily she can get a man to commit There is variance for sure. But there is also quite a bit of agreeance as well. Even among different ethnicities. There is often commonalities in what the average male and female find attractive. More males like younger women (like early 20s type) More males like women who are fit More males like women who have nice shapely ass and tits More females like tall dudes More females like guys who are well built. There are many more commonalities such as this. If you're an overweight man who's never b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 04:12 AM
6	Men who don't want to get married, why? Yep. That's the sort of stats China and Russia want to make sure you got memorized. They never mention the fact that this includes people who get married 4-5 times.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 04:09 AM
7	Men who don't want to get married, why? No I believe the recent gigantic rise in things like depression, anxiety, drug addiction is due to the fact that we're not pairing up. Which affects both sexes. And happens for a lot of the same reasons. Secluded comfortable lifestyles with minimal socializing. Along with this anti-western sentiment where it's not longer politically correct to tell people that if you want a good life you need to get married.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 03:57 AM
12	Men who don't want to get married, why? China, Russia, The far left and our own Universities. Have been working really hard to tear apart the fabric of our society. The foundation of which is nuclear families. That's the real answer. You look at any metric. Married people fair better in every way imaginable. Whether it's financial, psychiatric and especially how your children turn out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 03:28 AM
0	Men who say they don't care Absolutely. Happily married with kids.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 03:21 AM
1	Men who say they don't care No idea. Making $ should always be the advice given. But I never really listened to any of that crap so I wouldn't know.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 12:07 AM
0	Men who say they don't care I never passed any judgement. That's just how we are programmed by nature. Why is it bad or good or whatever?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 11:46 PM
0	Men who say they don't care No. It's a combination of things. We simplify it with "Looks, Money and Status". Obviously it is far more nuanced then that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 11:35 PM
0	Men who say they don't care Do I really need to add "on average" to every single statement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 09:30 PM
2	Men who say they don't care https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S109051381730315X There is tons of studies that support this. Such as this one. If you're an average looking dude. You can go a long way having a decent career. Especially if you travel abroad.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 08:50 PM
2	Men who say they don't care I use "female" because we are talking about biology. Woman used to be synonymous with female but ya know... i dont really want to get into that one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 08:48 PM
1	Men who say they don't care Again I completely disagree. I'm sure SOME WOMEN are like you describe. Probably more of the reddit cohort. But human females in general tend to select differently from men. For obvious biologic differences. Yes if you go to Colombia and try to marry yourself a hottie using your money/status. Expect about 50% of the women trying to get with you to be hookers, scammers and gold diggers. But the other 50% will be just regular women who want you as their husband. I think that part is important too.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 08:30 PM
1	Men who say they don't care No like I said. A human female being attracted to money and status in a male. Is just a regular human female. Not all females are like this. But a lot of them are. A gold digger is just a prostitute who will fuck the highest bidder. She's not actually trying to pair bond with the guy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 08:16 PM
3	Men who say they don't care I disagree. There are multiple studies that show women rate men higher when shown different salary levels. They also show that females are 1000 times more sensitive to this information than men. It's simple biologic drive. Females get pregnant. They have to consider the quality of the partner beyond their genetic strength (physical appearance). Males not as much.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 08:15 PM
3	Men who say they don't care I understand what you're saying. It makes perfect logical sense. But I dunno the whole "oh baby I love you. I want us to be together forever. Here sign this prenup". That just seems very strange to me. There is huge advantages in getting married btw. In objective metrics married couples and children from married couples fair way better.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 06:35 PM
5	Men who say they don't care Sure. The whole prenup thing is really weird to me. If you don't trust someone why would you marry them? I suppose if I made millions of dollars maybe I'd feel differently.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 06:02 PM
4	Men who say they don't care No I think women have some innate sense to leave a man if he becomes a dead beat. That doesn't make them gold diggers. I've met real gold diggers. Thankfully those were pretty upfront. They are just like prostitutes. Except you get way more time with them but they also often have stiff demands. Like $2000 a month or some shit (consistently like a salary). But they'll spend entire weekends with you. Let you take them shopping. You can fuck them a bunch of times. That's a fucking gold digger. A wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 05:46 PM
3	Men who say they don't care Sure why not. The male is supposed to be the provider.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 05:25 PM
5	Men who say they don't care When men say "I don't care how much $ you make". That means that whether you make a lot of $ or very little. Will make no difference in whether I am physically attracted to you. Which goes a long way towards me wanting a relationship with you (whether I'm attracted to you or not that is). Now yes if you're a hooker. I'll probably nope out. But like I said before if I meet some hottie and she works at Wendy's. Her working there is almost irrelevant information. She's hot that's what matters.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 05:20 PM
5	Men who say they don't care I think we're talking about different things. Who we find attractive is not voluntary. I can't look at some dirty homeless person and snap my fingers and suddenly they look like an 18 year old Jessica Alba. It doesn't work that way. We don't choose it. But I can choose to say "I refuse to get into a long term relationship with a prostitute".	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 05:16 PM
3	Men who say they don't care Not at all. Females and males are attracted to different qualities. Males: mostly physical appearance. Females: Combination of physical appearance, money and status. Within that frame you can see why someone being attracted to you because of "money and status" is completely different from someone who says "I am willing to fuck you if you buy me shit". One is just a regular female the other is a prostitute. But regardless. Males evaluate physical appearance. If you tell me or even behave like a p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 05:14 PM
18	Men who say they don't care Because gold diggers are piece of shit. There's a big difference between a woman who is attracted to you because of money and status. That is just a regular woman. You can have a real relationship with a person like that. And a gold digger. A gold digger is just a glorified prostitute. She's useful if you just want to empty your nuttsack. But completely useless as a life partner. Caring that someone is a glorified prostitute and giving 0 innate weight on someone's attractiveness based on their i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 05:04 PM
83	Men who say they don't care Males are not attracted to money or status. If you're hot you're hot. You're not going to turn us on by making more $. It's not part of our evaluation matrix. It could play a role in determining whether you want a relationship with someone. But that's more of a conscious choice. When guys say "they don't care" they mean at the innate subconscious level. If I meet some hottie at a bar and she says she works part time at Wendy's. You're not suddenly going to see her as inferior in any way. She's s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 04:57 PM
1	It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them. "Women are hypergamous alpha widows who only want the top 20% of men" is red pill bullshit. I mean... if framed that way sure it's nonsense. But you're taking the most extremist fringe views and painting the entire red pill as such. When most other views are far more moderate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/24 08:15 PM
2	It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them. a lot of red pill is just common sense. that is unfortunate not always so common these days. Passport bro is just biologic arbitrage. Probably the best thing a struggling Westerner can do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/24 08:10 PM
1	It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them. It can be very useful if framed properly. Get your shit together. Go socialize. Move to another city or even country if you have to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/24 07:48 PM
7	It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them. Right in some fringe extremist communities. I'm sure a bunch of KKK people want slavery brought back as well. That doesn't really have anything to do with regular people who don't believe in batshit crazy rhetoric.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/24 07:34 PM
14	It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them. wank wank. "Beta provider". You know when I hear people say that. I think of some really hot chick telling her fat friend about some new guy she met who she likes. And he of course likes her back because she is hot. And she goes "well you know he only likes you for your body or our face. not for who you are". Her being a fat ass, very few guys like her. But in reality she is inadvertently saying 100% truth. OFCOURSE HE LIKES YOU FOR YOUR FACE OR BODY. That's what attracts men. But not women. Wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/24 07:30 PM
9	It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them. You know I once lost like 50 lbs in a matter of months. My luck with women changed like.... I don't know it's almost like I landed on a different planet. I can't even describe it. If a guy is fat and has never been in shape. They won't know unless they experienced it. And if everyone around him is gaslighting him with bullshit. Then he may never even try.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/24 06:47 PM
15	It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them. I have seen countless people complain about not finding love. I don't think I've ever seen anyone advocating for love slavery or whatever the fuck else "owing your fulfillment" would entail.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/24 06:42 PM
5	It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them. Well for one we can be honest about it. If some guy is super fat. It may be "fatphobic" to tell him "hey have you tried losing weight". But it's exactly what he needs to hear.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/24 06:38 PM
36	It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them. This is an undeniable truth that for some reason many people on reddit choose to deny	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/24 06:37 PM
1	Destigmatizing sex work empowers both genders. By biological essentialism, as a man, we're supposed to go bang all the ladies we can and spread our seed around. It makes it kinda hard to do that when we're shaming the fuck out of women for being sexually open. Or pair bond. That's our second sexual strategy. To pair bond with one and raise children with her. When it comes to pair bonding. The last thing you want is a hooker or a slut.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/24 03:32 AM
17	Destigmatizing sex work empowers both genders. No he's saying that if you're earning so much $ doing something so simple. There is probably a catch. That catch is... it's a dirty job and many people will look down on you for it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/24 12:09 AM
5	Destigmatizing sex work empowers both genders. I don't think it's learned. I think it's biologic. Men are naturally disgusted by women who sleep around. Why? Because you can never know who the father is. If you marry some prostitute, how the hell can you know if you're the father? In 2024 you can know thanks to technology like DNA testing and what not. But humans did not evolve in a world with DNA testing. Our instincts are primed for the jungle. In the jungle it was not a good idea to pair bond with a highly promiscuous woman. Regarding hoo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/24 12:06 AM
0	The way redpillers talk about girls is offensive and often just outright wrong. Depends. If you tell some 50 year old dude he can date 21 year olds. You're full of shit. If you tell some 35 year old guy he can date 25 year olds. That's perfectly accurate. Regarding Russia I'm sure they are behind the recent rise of socialism, pro-crime and pro-terrorist sentiments. This is too small fish though. It's popular online but not really that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 07:34 PM
3	Womens SMV =/= her physical attractiveness, a woman's SMV is a representation of how easily she can get a man to commit The rich can typically buy whatever they want. A good looking woman often can't find a man that wants her back. That fits her parameters. And like I said it's not like you can will yourself to find other people attractive. It's not a conscious choice. If people could just decide who to find attractive almost nobody would be involuntarily single.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 12:30 PM
1	Womens SMV =/= her physical attractiveness, a woman's SMV is a representation of how easily she can get a man to commit It is falsifiable. In fact I gave you an example. You take an obese woman and a fit attractive woman. Ask 1,000,000 guys her age "would you date her" "would you fuck her" or whatever SMV/RMV related question. The contradicting prediction would be "There is no SMV and the answers would be almost the same". The SMV prediction is "There would be a lot more people interested in the fit attractive woman".	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 12:11 PM
1	Womens SMV =/= her physical attractiveness, a woman's SMV is a representation of how easily she can get a man to commit Men have a dual mating strategy. 1) fuck fuck fuck. Invest in one or none. (meaning commit to one but cheat on her relentlessly). 2) Invest in one Both were perfectly viable in a world before DNA tests and child support. So yes if a guy wants a relationship with you. He's not going to want to share you. But guys also often fuck women just for the sake of fucking them. With 0 intention of being serious with them. Especially if they are drunk or something.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 03:19 AM
1	Womens SMV =/= her physical attractiveness, a woman's SMV is a representation of how easily she can get a man to commit No offense. But you sure it was your immaturity? Men and women both are pretty bad at figuring out what the other wants. I sure as hell wouldn't take mens word for it. We're not very good at saying "I just didn't find you attractive or your sister/friend is way hotter". We'll make up some bullshit about your immaturity or pretty much anything that comes to our head at the time of the inquisition. Cause we know you don't want to hear it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 02:33 AM
2	Womens SMV =/= her physical attractiveness, a woman's SMV is a representation of how easily she can get a man to commit Fair enough. Though I would say immaturity is something men will accept much faster than those other things you mentioned. Especially plus sized and older.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 02:25 AM
4	Womens SMV =/= her physical attractiveness, a woman's SMV is a representation of how easily she can get a man to commit She's not a 10/10. Obviously this is somewhat subjective. To me a 10/10 is a woman who is so good looking. Noone can look better than her. There may be 1000s who look AS GOOD as her. But noone looks better. There are millions of women who look better than Scarlet Johansson. When she was young and especially now that she is older.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 02:23 AM
1	Womens SMV =/= her physical attractiveness, a woman's SMV is a representation of how easily she can get a man to commit How is it unfalsifiable? You think every human female has identical Sexual Market Value? As in if you take some older obese dim witted ugly woman and compare her to some young skinny model looking chick. They will have an identical # of people who would be willing to date them or just have sex with them?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 02:19 AM
2	Womens SMV =/= her physical attractiveness, a woman's SMV is a representation of how easily she can get a man to commit There are only 3 kinds of men looking for women who are mentally/emotionally immature There's a 4th kind 4) Guys who just don't give a shit. They'll take what they can get. Especially if she is kind of pretty. Women get to sit there picking and choosing "he's too immature, he's too bald". Men usually have a small number of options. So they just pick whatever looks like the best option based on the small pool of potential partners (which can often be just 1 or 2 people).	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 02:18 AM
6	Womens SMV =/= her physical attractiveness, a woman's SMV is a representation of how easily she can get a man to commit Is it really easy mode though? Good looking women have a major problem. They have a hard time getting the guys they are into committing. Think about a 10/10 Chad. He's got 6s 7s 8s 9s and 10s wanting to fuck him. And he's fine fucking any of them. A 10/10 Stacy is not going to be satisfied with some 6/10 dude. She's going to want a 10/10 Chad. And that dude is very busy. So while they certainly have some advantages. I wouldn't necessarily say it's "easy mode". And it's not like you can force you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 02:06 AM
8	If women are inseparable from their nature and biological drives, is there a point in trying to be good and in trying to be more than that nature? Is there a point in trying to be good when, according to Redpill, I am inherently evil? Every human on the planet is capable of being evil. When put in the right circumstances. Very few people are "inherently evil". Certainly not 50% of the human population. If anything most of the truly "inherently evil" people on the planet are male. Our prison population can attest to that. I don't put any stock in religious fairy tales. So not really sure how to address that. Just go find yourself a good hus…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 01:20 AM
–	Being attractive as a man is too complicated and very rare It's not rare at all. Any class room with 30 or so students. Will have 3-4 good looking guys who all the girls fantasize about. You're way exageratting the requirements. On top of that as the women get older. They get wet for other things besides looks. Doesn't mean you can be ugly. But average looking guys with a lot of charisma, talent, money or status. Tend to do really well after about 20 years old. Even if they are not particularly great looking. Guys in high school with a lot of charisma a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 01:11 AM
16	If women are inseparable from their nature and biological drives, is there a point in trying to be good and in trying to be more than that nature? Should I (29F) be generous and honest when, at my biological core, I am greedy and deceptive? I think that's a mischaracterization of your biological core. Everyone is capable of being greedy and deceptive. Most people are also capable of pair bonding and having a loving relationship. One that benefits and satisfies both parties. Is there a point in maintaining integrity in any area? If you want a real relationship absolutely. Lying is very bad for any relationship. In either direction whether y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 12:57 AM
11	The Red Pill perpetuates itself by setting men up to fail Most moderate red pillers advocate for becoming the best version of yourself. If you're struggling with dating that is good and sound advice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/24 06:42 PM
0	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? Well no shit. It's not uncommon now. But most kids do know. There has always been prostitutes and general sluts. There has always been cheating cunts. It's not really any different now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 11:38 PM
0	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? See, this is an abstraction from experience. It's a broad generalization, which will apply to some men but not to others. You may be speaking for yourself here, I don't know. I don't know guys like this personally, but I'm not going to gaslight you here. I'm sure they exist in a signifiant enough number for you and others to have come to this conclusion. I have never met a guy that is not "like this". And I've had a lot of male friends. Are you female? Cause men often don't advertise this about …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 05:00 PM
1	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? Contraception, for instance. People instinctively want to have sex for pleasure but they use prophylactics to prevent impregnation, unless they are ready to raise a child together. So the first mating strategy you described, doesn't really bear out in reality because our intelligence overrides our instinct to propagate unless we're ready to start a family. But we still see that behavior. Guys go to clubs and want to fuck the first hottie they meet. Regardless of anything.. we don't care where sh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 04:19 PM
1	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? That is utter fucking nonsense. We're not bonobos. We have strong pair bonding instincts. We wouldn't have those if we just behaved like bonobos all the time. There would be no sense of jealousy or parents being obsessed with their kids. There would be no "love" aka pair bonding on the emotional plane. What really happened is that adults died a lot and so did kids. So a lot of children were raised by others. But not because it was preferred. They didn't have a fucking choice. The preferred defau…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 03:38 PM
-1	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? People tend to over complicate it. Unnecessarily so. Sure there is nuances to everything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 02:21 PM
-1	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? Women experience pleasure from sex too. The difference you're noticing is in the nature of our mating strategies. Males have a dual mating strategy: 1) fuck fuck fuck. Random attractive women. Have a bunch of bastards hopefully some reach adulthood. 2) pair bond with one and sire several children with her. Both are perfectly viable in a world with no DNA tests or child support. Females have a singular mating strategy 1) Pair bond with a high quality partner. Now a lot of men falsely assume women…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 02:02 PM
3	The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating world If you offer me some gourmet rice. I'll still say no. Because I don't like rice. Or if I already ate (hint hint have a girlfriend already) I may say no even if it's a delicious meal. Is this really going over your head? This is simple stuff.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 04:28 PM
2	The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating world So its completely random? You don't think men and women who have more broad appeal exist? Have you ever been outside?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 04:21 PM
4	The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating world It couldn’t possibly be that she wasn’t into you but the hotter girl next to you was. That’s not how markets work! That's exactly how markets work. People pay $ for rice all the time. I think it's disgusting. People have their own preferences on food and pretty much every other product/service. Just like they do with partners. Maybe the hotter girl likes your rice and the other one didn't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 04:20 PM
2	The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating world So you are telling me we have more data on a crypt market that’s about 10 years old than “the sexual market” that every human on earth is apparently a part of? Yes because we carefully track every transaction. And we can put objective figures on them. We don't carefully track every male to female interaction. We have no means of doing that. You’re saying Sexual market is purely subjective. So by your own definitions: it can’t be real. Dude it's really simple. Some people have way more people cha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 04:13 PM
7	The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating world Hold up, we don’t need to create estimation clones to get a credit score, a stock market value, or even an exchange rate on a Crptyo. Yet somehow this one thing that almost everyone does or is involved with since the dawn of time is “impossible to score” even tho it’s totally real? Yes because we have a lot more data on things like credit scores and crypto valuations. We can look at millions of transactions. Men don't keep track of every time they hit on someone and get rejected on some ledger. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 04:00 PM
8	The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating world In order to get a real score. You'd have to build a matrix and clone every human in your immediate area. Then run a bunch of simulations. That's not possible in the real world. But you can get a pretty close estimation by just going out places and talking to people. By hitting on people. By trying things like social media and dating apps (though those tend to produce very poor results for most men and even women). Of course it's subjective. All value is subjective in any market. Why is an oceans…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 03:50 PM
4	The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating world Jesus please make your posts shorter To claim a 50/50 split suggests parity between nature and nurture. Not parity. They influence each other. More like a ying yang. Why should we prioritize outliers over the consistent, measurable preferences demonstrated in global studies? Not prioritize. Admit that they exist. Cause what happens is you tell people something like "100% of people find fit or skinny people attractive". And although its mostly true. It's not actually how the real world works. We …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 03:47 PM
15	The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating world So how does one get their SMV score? By going outside. Attempting to hit on people. Watching the result. Most people do this naturally and without intent. Over time and in many different interactions. Your SMV is basically answers to questions like "what % of my peers want me" and "what % of the peers I want want me back". Peers can be a wide range of course.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 03:35 PM
2	The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating world Give me a C, give me a H, give me a A, give me a T, give me a G, give me a P, give me a T. What's that spell?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 03:31 PM
7	The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating world “You’re oversimplifying attraction. Not everyone conforms to these evolutionary rules. Not everyone cares about youth, attractiveness, or financial stability. People fall in love for unique, individual reasons, not because of evolutionary imperatives.” I think it's important not to dig yourself into an ideological hole you can't get out of. Nurture has some influence on what we find attractive. That doesn't mean that nature doesn't play a role. But pretending like it's all nature forces us to de…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 03:27 PM
–	The disconnect between perceived SMV and actual SMV is the primary reason so many people fail in the dating world Jesus make it shorter next time. That is way too much text for a reddit post. I agree with the first bit I read.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 03:21 PM
-2	CMV: Wives should decenter their husbands and children So being an egotistic piece of shit is going to help you and your family? Somehow I doubt it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 03:11 PM
3	The delusion and ignorance of red/black pillers who compare women role in the gender hierarchy to the capitalist class Infinite growth is unsustainable in a planet with finite natural resources. What are we going to run to when we use up all our soil? When we poison all the water? We're 1000s years away from that. By then we will have the technology to survive anywhere. So it's not a problem. You act as if colonialism has NOTHING to do with it, Colonialism is just another example of a superior military force conquering the inferior. Which is pretty much the norm for all of human history up until about 200 years …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/24 10:26 PM
3	The delusion and ignorance of red/black pillers who compare women role in the gender hierarchy to the capitalist class You're like a socialist ChatGPT. Just regurgitating the same bullshit over and over. US has the best technology. That is why their economy is the most powerful. Go visit Russia today. Don't focus on Moscow. Go out to the countryside. Notice how insanely underdeveloped it is. Realize that it was even worse during the Soviet times. That place is a shithole. It was a shit hole. Because it had an inept economic system. That is incapable of producing wealth. Capitalism RELIES on infinite growth. Keep…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/24 09:22 PM
2	The delusion and ignorance of red/black pillers who compare women role in the gender hierarchy to the capitalist class Nope. The best places to live are the one's with the best technology, the best organizational structure and the best infrastructure. Along with strong institutions. USSR was the most resource wealthy country in the history of the planet. And it was a miserable fucking shithole because of an inept socialist government. Haiti has an inept government. Yes you need a capable government to have a country worth a shit. That is true for any system. Even your utopia that you made up in your head. Just b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/24 08:57 PM
1	The delusion and ignorance of red/black pillers who compare women role in the gender hierarchy to the capitalist class Blah blah blah. The best places to live are all capitalist nations. People who were unfortunate enough to be born in socialist shitholes like USSR, Cuba, North Korea, Pre-reform China, Vietnam, Eastern Europe can all attest to that. Minimum wage is a terrible regulation that should be abolished. China reduced massive amounts of poverty by making CAPITALIST REFORMS. They allowed private enterprise. Before that it was a miserable shithole just like all other socialist nations before it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/24 08:40 PM
1	The delusion and ignorance of red/black pillers who compare women role in the gender hierarchy to the capitalist class Historically capitalism has been outstanding at GETTING PEOPLE OUT OF POVERTY. You always have an elite class controlling the means of production. Whether it's royalty and aristocrats like we had in medieval times. Whether it's the inefficient and inept government like USSR had. Or it's business owners who at least have to produce a viable product. Royalty/Aristocrats and the government did a very poor job of running an economy. This is why socialism has been an utter failure and why pretty much…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/24 07:26 PM
2	Why is it some men both simultaneously look down on women but also seem to want their approval for everything like we are their mommy? Have you considered human nature? Males seek validation from humans because we are animals and the instinct to reproduce is extremely strong. You don't eat for a few days and all you can think about is food. A similar thing occurs when you have 0 sexual validation. At the same time... you can be disgusted by those who's validation you seek behavior. The two are not mutually exclusive. I don't necessarily agree with that standpoint but I understand where it comes from. Not a contradiction at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 01:43 AM
1	Modern Dating Truths: Why Men Should Reconsider Loyalty and Investment in One Woman You sure about that? Males have a dual mating strategy. 1) Fuck a lot of attractive women 2) Pair bond with one. Most of the attractive guys who had choices. Start out doing a lot of #1. Then get tired of it and progress to #2. Most average looking guys can only get #2. So they never #1. Not because they don't want to. They don't have what it takes. Ugly guys are happy to get anything. So yeah.....	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/24 05:58 PM
2	If you were a billionaire, would you still pursue a romantic relationship/marriage? Why/why not? Pair bonding. The answer is pair bonding. Humans are animals. We have an instinct to pair bond. You're not going to pair bond with 10,000 escorts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/24 02:34 PM
1	Modern Dating Truths: Why Men Should Reconsider Loyalty and Investment in One Woman Most men are not capable of spinning plates. If they could they would already be doing it. It's a pipe dream. I mean yes I sort of did. But that kind of implies guys who want to spin plates and can... If some guy is super handsome but is happy with his gf. Obviously that doesnt apply.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/24 12:23 AM
1	Modern Dating Truths: Why Men Should Reconsider Loyalty and Investment in One Woman The type of guys who get into the whole "I need to be spinning plates mindset". In their state of life. If they could spin plates. They would have done it a long time ago. Sure some guys could technically have a bunch of women but choose to just date 1 and are happy with their choice. But those are not the type of guys we're talking about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 09:49 PM
1	Modern Dating Truths: Why Men Should Reconsider Loyalty and Investment in One Woman I don't. I attribute it to simple biologic drives. If you constantly starved you'd put food on a pedestal. And I disagree. If you find a woman who actually cares about you. None of what you're saying is true. That's just not always easy to find. Most guys could find it if they were capable of dropping their standards. But again going back to biology. That is much harder to do. How do you make yourself attracted to people you don't find attractive? If it was easy there would be very few single pe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 08:41 PM
0	Modern Dating Truths: Why Men Should Reconsider Loyalty and Investment in One Woman Of course. Having a father and a mother gives the child a more balanced upbringing. And 2 providers is better than one when it comes to material conditions as well. The reason men put women on a pedestal is because sexuality and pair bonding is an important evolutionary drive. It's like hunger and thirst. If you do well with it. You hardly ever notice it. If you start not having enough food or water it's all you can fucking think about. They don't choose to obsess about it. Anymore than some sta…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 07:06 PM
1	Modern Dating Truths: Why Men Should Reconsider Loyalty and Investment in One Woman I disagree. Nobody "raises you" to feel hungry or thirsty. It's just evolutionary drives. If our males didn't obsess with vagege. We would have died out many generations ago. The one's that already have features that women find attractive. Like attractive face, physical prowess, talent or charisma. They don't obsess about women anymore than we obsess about water when it's abundant. I think people got the relationship backwards. They think those men do well because they don't obsess about women. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 02:27 PM
2	Modern Dating Truths: Why Men Should Reconsider Loyalty and Investment in One Woman I believe it's instinctual and biologic to put women on a pedestal. We put food and water on a pedestal too when those items are scarce. It's just that in our world it's vagege that's scarce not food or water. Men who don't suffer from this scarcity don't put them on a pedestal. But that's why I said "if you could spin plates you would already be doing it". No man wakes up in the morning and says "today I will put women on a pedestal". They just do because it's in their nature.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 01:34 PM
15	Modern Dating Truths: Why Men Should Reconsider Loyalty and Investment in One Woman Most men are not capable of spinning plates. If they could they would already be doing it. It's a pipe dream.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 02:19 AM
41	Modern Dating Truths: Why Men Should Reconsider Loyalty and Investment in One Woman Then you must live in a college town and only go to night clubs, house parties and bars. While ignoring all the girls who stay away from that shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 10:39 PM
71	Modern Dating Truths: Why Men Should Reconsider Loyalty and Investment in One Woman All of this is only true for the 18-24 age range and even then it's more for the casual dating scene. If you want a good relationship. The last thing you want to do is "spin plates". Just find a good girl and date her. Yes there is a lot of trashy women that ain't worth the semen that comes out of your pee pee hole. But they are just a % of the population.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 10:19 PM
–	As a Woman, If You Want a Man to Commit, Maybe Commit to Cooking and Cleaning Yes you need water to survive... They are eating too many calories. That is how you become obese. That is literally the only way you can become obese. It's not possible by the law of physics to accomplish it any other way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 05:16 PM
–	As a Woman, If You Want a Man to Commit, Maybe Commit to Cooking and Cleaning Think about what you're saying. For a person to become obese. They have to consistently eat more calories than they spend. So........ They are becoming obese by eating food with 0 calories? You do realize that calories are nutritional value right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 05:07 PM
–	As a Woman, If You Want a Man to Commit, Maybe Commit to Cooking and Cleaning Liking someone is the baseline to a relationship. You're not going to eat food that has 0 nutritional value. Everyone "likes" their partner. Or at least they should.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 05:01 PM
1	Do you think women have an obligation or moral duty to have children? I understand. And yes welfare queens are absolutely a thing. Which is why I said "in a married couple". Most welfare queens are not married because often they can't even get welfare if they are married. Which really fucks up those neighborhoods with so many kids who don't have fathers and mothers who just wanted them for a check. You gotta think it through. But that doesn't mean you can't create the right set of incentives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 12:23 AM
-3	Do you think women have an obligation or moral duty to have children? It's about the incentive structures. We should build incentive structures to encourage as many people to get married and have children. And to have many children. Whether that's through massive tax breaks. Or straight up cash payments. We need more kids. We need more mothers and fathers staying together. We need more nuclear families. Those things are great for society. The dwindling fertility problem in the West is by far the biggest problem we face. Far greater than the doomerist global warmin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 11:59 PM
2	Women in third world countries would behave the same as western women if they had the opportunity to Why would I do any of that? Her mother had her at 31. You can have kids into your late 30s and early 40s. Of course I will tell her that in her early 20s is the best time to get married. Because that is a fact. But that's about it. First of all you say you're a red pill woman... I don't really "identify" as the red pill. I have a mixed set of beliefs. But my beliefs are most in line with the red pill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/24 10:56 PM
-2	Women in third world countries would behave the same as western women if they had the opportunity to To me a red pill man is just someone who seeks the truth. Not necessarily someone bitter or misogynist. To answer your question I hope she gets married much younger than I did and never encounters any of this stuff. I'll do everything I can to make sure she goes to a nice college with a lot of good men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/24 10:50 PM
1	Women in third world countries would behave the same as western women if they had the opportunity to I don't know I don't frequent those spots. There is crazies in every group. I'm raising my daughter in the West. I'm somewhat of a passport bro. Though I went back home to my ancestral land (I'm originally Russian/Ukrainian and I went to Ukraine). She was born in Kyiv but I'm raising her in the states.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/24 10:47 PM
-3	Women in third world countries would behave the same as western women if they had the opportunity to That's not a problem if you pick right. Also not all passport bros are "angry, mean spirited and bitter men". Some are no doubt. But then again a % of any group is like that. Overall the West is a better place to raise kids. So it's probably a good idea to come back home once you have a good stable relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/24 10:42 PM
1	CMV: "Friend-zoning" is judging a woman for her right to say "no", slut shaming is judging a woman for her right to say "yes" So basically some men put themselves there. The actions and behaviors that show romantic interest are vastly different from how one shows platonic interest. Just as some men say they aren't mind readers, women aren't mind readers either, and don't know the interest a man has in her when he's not direct. Yes they are taught a bunch of horseshit about how if you want a woman to like you. Spend a lot of time with her. So they do that. And get friendzoned. Basically just a result of the shitty advic…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 03:32 AM
5	CMV: "Friend-zoning" is judging a woman for her right to say "no", slut shaming is judging a woman for her right to say "yes" Of course a friend zone exists. Females simply often don't realize that the guy who "wants to be their friend" just wants to be in a relationship with them. A true platonic friendship between a male and a female is quite rare. In most cases one or the other wants a romantic relationship. Like others have said females get friend zoned as well. Though not as frequently. Regarding slut shaming. It's just society trying to warn people not to behave in a self destructive manner. If you want guys to t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 02:17 AM
–	Does money turn you on? And yet female animals obtain their own resources, even while pregnant and breastfeeding. You missed the part about humans pair bonding. What do you think love is? Just an instinct to pair bond. I even gave you a wikipedia article. In case you haven't figured it out for yourself by observing other humans. You know the mothers and fathers who raise their children together. All across the planet. That's called pair bonding. It's an innate human behavior. We know it's innate because 1000s of other …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 11:07 PM
–	Does money turn you on? Why does gender egalitarianism even matter? We're talking about human nature. You think gender egalitarianism was the norm for humans throughout history? Yes indeed a lot of couples are looks matched. I agree. However when you do see slight discrepancies. It's almost always the girl who is better looking. Not the guy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pair_bond Humans and 1000s of other species display what is called pair bonding. We call it "love". It's an emotional attachment we form towards our m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 10:59 PM
–	Does money turn you on? Real life is not your friend in this argument. Travel to Kyiv. Observe all the "average guy" + "hot chick" couples. You will see dozens of them just walking around. All it takes is paying attention. Which part exactly are you contending is not true?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 10:50 PM
–	Does money turn you on? It has never been debunked. By whom? Women stating otherwise?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 10:28 PM
0	Does money turn you on? You don't seem to have much of a counter argument. Males = (on average) attracted to physical appearance Females = (on average) attracted to SOME COMBINATION of looks, money and status Some combination is important. Because a lot of Western women tend to value looks far more than women around the planet. But they still care about all 3. Where's men don't care about money and status at all. This is very very very well documented. You can find 100s of studies that support this. https://www.science…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 02:51 AM
4	Does money turn you on? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH No buddy. North Korea is significantly worse. There is a big difference from eating Pizza and Burgers all day long. Because you're a glutton and only eat shit that tastes good. And fucking starving despite busting your ass 6 days a week 10 hours a day. Because your country is a poor miserable shithole that is incapable of mass producing anything. Due to a horrific economic policy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 02:49 AM
2	Does money turn you on? https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S109051381730315X We found that ratings of attractiveness were around 1000 times more sensitive to salary for females rating males, compared to males rating females. So yes if you're an average looking dude and you want a horny attractive woman in your bed who wants to fuck you. Making more $ will go a long way towards that. It's probably not the $ itself that is turning her on. But does it really matter?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 02:46 AM
-1	Does money turn you on? It's pretty well documented. And can be readily observed all over the planet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 02:43 AM
2	Does money turn you on? I don't think anybody is saying that $ functions as a nice ass or something. That turns a woman on. A man with $ however is a sign of a good provider. Which can turn a woman on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 02:40 AM
2	Does money turn you on? Nobody is arguing that nurture doesn't matter. But if someone is ugly that is a sign of bad genetics. Because of how highly heritable physical appearance is. Yes of course people attractive genes are probably not going to look all that attractive if they grow up in a North Korean communist famine or have some horrific disease in their childhood.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 02:38 AM
0	Does money turn you on? Yes I do. Go hang around some Kazakh or Uzbek couples. The woman will have like 3-4 kids. She loves the husband. Takes care of the house. Takes care of the kids. Doesn't fuck around. Doesn't really argue. Yes those women trully love their man. It's called pair bonding. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pair_bond A trick nature pulls to get us to raise our kids together. Highly effective. But you're not going to get a man to love you if he's not physically attracted to you at some point. You just won…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 02:34 AM
7	Does money turn you on? bwhwahahahahaahha I assure you it's not the $ that makes her attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 02:31 AM
1	Does money turn you on? There is 1) Gold diggers. Which are basically just longer term prostitutes. They don't offer actual relationships. They don't offer any emotional value. You're probably not going to have kids with them and you really don't want to. 2) Wives who marry guys that they are attracted to for status/money. They actually love the men. They have kids with them. They build them a home. They raise the kids together. They have a real family. Those are very different things. #1 is an absolutely useless terd.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 02:22 AM
3	Does money turn you on? Yes but physical appearance is highly heritable. If you have an ugly partner. The odds of you having ugly kids is significantly greater. Obviously outliers exist in everything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 02:20 AM
1	Does money turn you on? It’s a falsehood that men don’t chase rich women’s fortunes just like the other leeches. It's kind of like male prostitutes. Sure they exist. But for every male prostitute in Miami there is 1000 female prostitutes. The fact that it happens with both sexes. Doesn't mean the behavior and nature of the sexes is the same. I also would not want to be a woman with a male gold digger. Females are attracted to status and wealth. MEN ARE NOT. They are just fucking using you. Those are probably some miser…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 02:15 AM
4	Does money turn you on? Studies have showed that having a bigger salary does make you more attractive. It won't turn some ugly neckbeard into a Chad. That's not how it works. But it does wonders for otherwise average men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 02:08 AM
0	Does money turn you on? If money turned women on then the vast majority of women would be too focused on building a lucrative career to pursue relationships. That is exactly what is happening. It's not the $ itself that turns you on. Women are biologically wired to seek a good provider for the family. Because women are very fragile when the baby is born and about 6 months after. It greatly benefits to have a capable partner. Both the child or children and the mother. That doesn't mean he can be ugly. Ugly man is a sign…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 01:58 AM
–	Would you date a broke woman? It's cliche because it's true. Men don't give a shit about how much $ you make. If you're attractive... you're attractive whether you have a career or flip burgers at Wendy's. If you're not attractive then it doesn't matter at all how much $ you make, you may as well be a dude. It's not that "we want to date broke women". We just don't care. It's not something we select on at all. WOMEN SELECT ON THAT not men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 01:48 AM
–	Would you date a broke woman? Like Katana said. That is something I would probably say to my wife as well. But it's bullshit. If she wasn't pretty it wouldn't matter if she was a neurosurgeon. Because she was super pretty it really didn't matter where the hell she worked.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 01:45 AM
1	Would you date a broke woman? There's only one question that matters. "Is she hot?". If yes everything is forgiven. If no then none of it matters. I'm amazed how much women overcomplicate male sexuality. It's really that simple.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/24 02:07 AM
1	Would you date a broke woman? The size of a woman's wallet has 0 effect on our attraction to her. She's either hot or not. If she's hot doesn't matter if she's working at Wendy's. If she's not doesn't matter if she's a neuro surgeon.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/24 02:00 AM
33	Invisible women exist just as much as invisible men. I grew up around a couple of Chad guys. They were attractive and very athletic. The women they often took home when drunk as fuck. Were uhhhhhh not the greatest looking. But they were just very horny and enjoyed the attention. They treated those women like utter shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/24 06:46 PM
4	Invisible women exist just as much as invisible men. So could most dudes if they were willing to date women who were way less attractive than them. But it's not a particularly good solution. Because nobody wants to be in a relationship with someone they have 0 interest in.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/24 06:38 PM
23	Invisible women exist just as much as invisible men. Relative to her they might be more attractive than her. But they won't get into a relationship with her. In fact will likely treat her like trash or totally ghost her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/24 06:34 PM
66	Invisible women exist just as much as invisible men. I think because most of these women could get dick easily. If that's all they were looking for. For men just having sex with (relatively) attractive women is already a win. But just getting dick does nothing for a lot of women. So it's really just males and females not understanding each other. Due to the our natural differences. They see an ugly woman who could technically get dick even though she doesn't want it like that. And say "well she's not really invisible". When her internal feeling is…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/24 06:23 PM
1	CMV: Status makes men more attractive to women and that incentives men to create hierarchies https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S109051381730315X They found that women are 1000 times more sensitive to information about income. When it comes to judging a partners attractiveness. Not 2x, not 10x not even 100x. A thousand times more sensitive. It appears that it really just doesn't matter to men that much at all. It's entirely visual. Where's with women it does.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 03:01 AM
2	CMV: Status makes men more attractive to women and that incentives men to create hierarchies What does "value" mean? If a girl is unattractive absolutely nothing else matters about her. She can be wealthy, funny or whatever. It just doesn't matter. I don't see her any differently then I see some dude because she's not attractive. And I'm not trying to date a dude.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 02:23 AM
5	CMV: Status makes men more attractive to women and that incentives men to create hierarchies That has a lot more to do with proximity. People tend to marry the people that are around their social circles. A doctor guy is going to be around doctor and nurse women most of his life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 02:22 AM
1	CMV: Status makes men more attractive to women and that incentives men to create hierarchies What reproductive value do colourful eyelids, lips, nails and toes represent? If the answer is none, then males must be after something else. They show quality genes. Physical appearance is just a way to measure the strength of an animals genes. Some of them are not even conducive for survival. Because natural selection and sexual selection are not always in parallel. Sometimes features that don't actually help with natural selection are found to be sexually appealing. For whatever reason.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 12:54 AM
1	CMV: Status makes men more attractive to women and that incentives men to create hierarchies It's not "getting wet from shopping bags". That's not really what I was trying to convey. You get some quasi moto to buy her a bunch of shit. She's not suddenly going to want to fuck him. But if some average looking dude shows that sort of interest and that capability. Yes she is going to want to fuck him. He'll need other things going for him. He can't be a socially inept idiot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 12:52 AM
2	CMV: Status makes men more attractive to women and that incentives men to create hierarchies Still undertakes an intensive diet and exercise regime. She's just decided she doesn't need all that other crap. And yet it has still drastically affected her response from males. If she's still in shape. It probably didn't hurt her as much as you think. Shaving her head is bad. But if she had a pretty face to begin with. She's probably not struggling nearly as bad as you think. The one thing that kills women who let themselves go is getting fat. No physical features represent PHYSICAL FEATURES.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 12:44 AM
1	CMV: Status makes men more attractive to women and that incentives men to create hierarchies I used to believe this. I believed this for 37 years of my life (I'm 41 now). But getting married changed my mind. Because my wife before she got pregnant had a lot of her friends over. They would sip wine and talk about shit. They didn't realize I was usually eavesdropping. They would say shit like "A man thinks a fucking dick pick is what I want to see. As if that is what turns me on. You know what turns me the fuck on? A god damn shopping bag full of shit". And it wasn't just one chick. They …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 12:41 AM
2	CMV: Status makes men more attractive to women and that incentives men to create hierarchies But we did evolve with concepts such as "ability to gather resources" or "already has a ton of resources secured" or "has a high standing in the social hierarchy". Shit even our primate cousins have social hierarchies. The reason they tell men to "be more confident" is because that is what the guy at the higher end of the social hierarchy usually does. But it's terrible advice because it's not really something you can fake. Yes big physically fit men are attractive. No one is denying that. The b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 12:33 AM
7	CMV: Status makes men more attractive to women and that incentives men to create hierarchies What has changed? Her pretty face is still the same, and she still has the same fit healthy body which would make her an ideal mother for his offspring. What did all those additional bells and whistles signify to that made her such a valuable mate? She stopped taking care of her self is what changed. That is a sign of a terrible potential partner. Think about what it signals to a potential mate at the subconscious level. "She is not going to take care of the kids, she is not going to help take c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 12:29 AM
1	CMV: Status makes men more attractive to women and that incentives men to create hierarchies Being a sugar mama has to be one miserable situation. Cause the guy is probably taking viagra to fuck you. I disagree about the whole Melania Trump thing. They might have an awkward marriage. But generally speaking dudes have been attracting women with their "take care of the family" capacity for 1000s of generations. It's ingrained in our DNA and our psyche. In a way that women really can't attract men. Because we don't get pregnant. It's a simple difference in biology. That doesn't mean that p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 12:25 AM
5	CMV: Status makes men more attractive to women and that incentives men to create hierarchies Most guys would pick a 7/10 in Wendy's over Michelle Obama or Oprah Winfrey. Maybe I shouldn't have used a 10/10. Guys are just not sexually aroused by status. Like at all. Maybe some are..... Maybe that's why you believe that. But it's a very small %. Most guys are attracted to pretty faces and nice bodies. First and foremost.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 12:13 AM
15	CMV: Status makes men more attractive to women and that incentives men to create hierarchies I don't know what planet you're from. How many men do you think would pick Oprah Winfrey or Michelle Obama over some random 10/10 that works at a Wendy's. They'll go with the 10/10 all day long. Because she is pretty.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 12:03 AM
4	CMV: Status makes men more attractive to women and that incentives men to create hierarchies Men are mostly attracted to physical features. We fill in the blank afterwards. Of course I tell my wife I love how feminine she is. What a great mother she is. How incredible she is in terms of her socializing abilities. How good of a cook she is. All of those things are true. None of those things would have meant a damn if I didn't find her physically attractive. That is just how the males brain works. Females are a little different. Things like status can actually make a man more attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 12:01 AM
–	Hypergamy is not bad, we shoudl embrace it. We don't know A) What you look like B) What she looks like (no offense but for all we know you're a good looking guy and she's like 300lbs) C) What your status is/was when you guys met D) What your $ situation was when you guys met I'm not saying she doesn't love you for "who you are". In fact that is a pretty common theme in properly pair bonded couples. Pair bonding happens in humans to raise children together. We sort of need both parents to be very invested in each other. Which often transla…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 01:15 AM
-1	Stay at home Dads are pathetic Women are attracted to status. We only seek status to attract women. Yes if women wanted a bunch of stay at home dads. Like ACTUALLY wanted that. We would gleefuly chill at home.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 02:10 AM
2	Controlling partner Does one partner have the right to tell another partner that they cannot have social media? I'd say no. That seems way too controlling. Can they tell you who you can hang out with and when? To some degree yes. For example if your girl is "best friends" with her ex boyfriend or some shit. You can raise a fuss about that. So it depends on the context When you have a disagreement they make you sleep on the couch to punish you That's pretty normal in some relationships. A cause for concern in others…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/24 05:44 PM
1	A Lot of the Things Making Men Miserable are things Men Could Fix You're completely wrong about everything. A) Cuba is a miserable socialist shithole. Where did you hear that they made a cure for cancer? Is that one of their claims? Did they build a time machine and a perpetual motion machine too? Like the Soviets with cold fusion... B) Human brains. Particularly with high IQ. Is by far the most valuable resource on the planet. US knows this. This is why we have been siphoning talent from around the planet for generations. It's a big reason why the country is …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/24 04:27 PM
-2	A Lot of the Things Making Men Miserable are things Men Could Fix Even by your rationale. You need families. Because without families you don't have replacement fertility. Without replacement fertility you don't have a sufficient labor force. Profit incentive is a wonderful thing. It has made everyone's lives significantly better. People live like paupers in the few nations that tried to not have the profit motive. A well fed, healthy and motivated employee is a significantly more productive worker than some drug addicted coomer. So even by that rationale. You…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/24 10:33 PM
-1	A Lot of the Things Making Men Miserable are things Men Could Fix Which is why I said we need to put our heads together and figure out how to make it more enjoyable for both parties. Clearly neither party currently finds it particularly enjoyable. As fertility numbers are in the gutter across the developed world. But that is bad. That is very bad. People worry so much about the climate change boogeyman. When this is a far more pressing issue.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/24 08:26 PM
2	A Lot of the Things Making Men Miserable are things Men Could Fix I think you way overstate how bad the marriages of the past were. We know from many different metrics that married people tend to fare better financially and psychologically. The move away from the nuclear family has been utterly detrimental to modern society. We should encourage males and females to couple up again. To build homes together. To have kids together. That is where most people used to get their social fix. That is where most people used to get their reason for existing. Now you have…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/24 08:22 PM
4	Finantial abortion arguments are incoherent Feminism versus Real world is often an issue of practical versus fair. What is the most practical approach? The current one. What is the most fair approach? You give men the same amount of time a woman has to decide if they even want to be a parent. And if they don't they lose all parental rights. But also don't have to pay anything. I suspect the practical is going to be the approach for quite some time. Until AI starts making our economies so productive that we don't even have a need for thing…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/24 07:59 PM
2	Women are biologically attracted to men with resources but especially men with the skills and status to obtain more resources and these are the primary important features for a man to possess Sounds like they were intentionally fishing for sugar babies. Those women are useless for relationships. They will tell you as much in most cases. But are fun as long term lease prostitutes. I've been around the type as well and honestly the women were quite up front about it. I think because the guys didn't really want any serious thing either as they had wives at home. Either she found you very attractive physically or really liked something else about you. That's great I'm happy for you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/24 07:16 PM
0	Women are biologically attracted to men with resources but especially men with the skills and status to obtain more resources and these are the primary important features for a man to possess Do you know what the #1 predictor for child abuse in a home is? A step parent. Particularly a step father. There's a reason for that. Males highly prefer their own seed. They will raise another man's seed sometimes. But often don't feel the same level of commitment towards it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_guarding_in_humans Humans much like many other species display mate guarding behavior. This is actually one of the main reasons guys innately don't like high N count women. https://www.sc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/24 07:11 PM
0	Women are biologically attracted to men with resources but especially men with the skills and status to obtain more resources and these are the primary important features for a man to possess https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S109051381730315X We found that ratings of attractiveness were around 1000 times more sensitive to salary for females rating males, compared to males rating females. Look I used to believe what you believe. For a long time. I'm 41 years old probably the first 37 years of my life I believed what you believe. It really took me getting married and listening to the conversations that my wife and her friends would have. To realize just how wrong I…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/24 06:58 PM
2	Women are biologically attracted to men with resources but especially men with the skills and status to obtain more resources and these are the primary important features for a man to possess Yes and we still have daycares and schools and what not. They help us raise. But you have a breeding pair that raises the children. If that wasn't the case. Fathers wouldn't get obsessively protective of their kids. They wouldn't fall in love with the mother. Developing wife googles and all (when even if she gets fat he still finds her attractive). None of that would be the case if the males did not stick around to help raise their children. All you have to do is look at human instincts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/24 06:49 PM
1	Women are biologically attracted to men with resources but especially men with the skills and status to obtain more resources and these are the primary important features for a man to possess We're talking about innate instincts. Like other poster has said right after the child is born it is extremely difficult to gather resources. Both the mother and the child are very vulnerable first 6 months or so. The innate instinct thus favors a capable dude. Because it was very beneficial for her and the offspring. Even if they don't "need them" it still helps tremendously. The overall claim is that males and females select differently. Males almost entirely on looks. Females take looks into …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/24 06:43 PM
3	Women are biologically attracted to men with resources but especially men with the skills and status to obtain more resources and these are the primary important features for a man to possess That's stupid. It's not optimal at all. The most optimal is to pair bond with Bobunga and raise kids together. If you try to do that Chadugga Russian Roulette. Unless you are very attractive. You will find most men don't even want your ass. And you will be raising that kid on your own. Bobunga ain't trying to raise someone else's kid. It's way too risky of a strategy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/24 06:04 PM
4	Women are biologically attracted to men with resources but especially men with the skills and status to obtain more resources and these are the primary important features for a man to possess Even today a female that has a male help her raise a child fares significantly better. The children fare significantly better. Even with all of our technology, food abundance, medicine etc. If it's true today. Imagine how true it was 3000+ years ago. Sure they can probably survive on their own........ at least some. But their odds of survival and the quality of upbringing they give to their children severely diminishes. Tht's not to say looks don't matter. Looks signify quality of genes. Quality…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/24 05:59 PM
1	The Red Pill is the most effective strategy for men in the world of modern dating. Homeless vietnamese woman?? I'm from United States. Originally Russian/Ukrainian. I went to Kyiv for a vacation. Fired up Tinder and Badoo. I was going on dates with all sorts of women. From all walks of life. Professional women who already had a career. Women who were in school. Even went on a date with a girl who was in med school. You gotta understand man. Just being "American" makes you more attractive. I'm not a hideous guy... but I'm no Chad either. Just an average dude.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/24 05:20 PM
1	The Red Pill is the most effective strategy for men in the world of modern dating. Well I think the whole betabux thing is a misunderstanding of human nature. Males and females are different when it comes to sexual instincts. Due to different roles. Male is a provider. Female is the child bearer and nurturer. For this reason the way we select partner from an innate point of view is quite different as well. Males: (on average of course) Primarily select on physical attributes. Females: (on average) Select on SOME COMBINATION of looks, money and status. There's plenty of science…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/24 05:12 PM
1	The Red Pill is the most effective strategy for men in the world of modern dating. My distinctions are 1) Sugar baby/trophy wife 2) real wife The way #1 behaves is a very wide spectrum. Some will leave some will stay. But the fundamental difference is that #2 actually loves you. Where's #1 is mostly there for the lifestyle. Though honestly I'm not that familiar with the concept of a trophy wife. Just because a richer guy has a younger more attractive wife doesn't mean she doesn't love him. My main contention is that you can find a real wife by playing the money/status arbitrag…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/24 03:50 PM
3	The Red Pill is the most effective strategy for men in the world of modern dating. I disagree. First of all "conditional" is a silly word. When I married my wife it was pretty conditional on the fact that I found her attractive at that moment. Without that I wouldn't marry her. There is always facets of a person that if they didn't have would be a deal breaker for you. The other thing you're describing is called a shitty marriage. Yes of course they happen. Honestly........ THAT was my big mistake my entire life. I always assumed that if a woman was not into me the same way I …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/24 05:13 AM
0	The Red Pill is the most effective strategy for men in the world of modern dating. No I think there is a fundamental difference between a sugar baby and a wife. A sugar baby is just a long term prostitute. You don't usually have a committed relationship with them. They just come and go. They often have other dudes and even real boyfriends. They are just trashy bitches who realized that their pussy can be sold to long term renters for high $. A wife is someone you marry. You live with. You have kids with. You have a deep relationship with. Basically someone you pair bond with. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/24 04:31 AM
-1	The Red Pill is the most effective strategy for men in the world of modern dating. Sure but that doesn't really matter. Males and females have very different innate attraction switches. Males: (on average) primarily based on physical appearance Females: (on average) based on some combination of looks, money and status. The key here is when you move to an underdeveloped nation. Your status and money rises exponentially. You go from being median at everything to suddenly top 10% or even top 5% in terms of both money and status. The quality and quantity of women interested in you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/24 04:25 AM
2	The Red Pill is the most effective strategy for men in the world of modern dating. That's a poor generalization of passport broing. There are some guys that go there just to sleep around. Hook up with hookers etc. There are some guys that get swindled by visa fraudsters and sugar babies. Posing as people who genuinely like them. But there is also a lot of guys that find real wifes. Women who give them a family. WHo they have kids with. Who love them. Who they love. Something they may not found at home or at least would have had to settle with a much worse option.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/24 04:18 AM
48	The Red Pill is the most effective strategy for men in the world of modern dating. The PUA stuff is garbage. All that spinning plates trash. Go somewhere where there is some demand for you. Go overseas if you have to. And find a good woman who wants to settle down and start a family. Then you won't have to do any of that spinning plates bullshit. A lot of red pill principles I do agree with. I flair as Red Pill because it most closely aligns with my views. But I definitely wouldn't bother with the PUA stuff.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/24 04:01 AM
2	Why Women and BP Men Don’t Like The Pills What is actually unique about redpill theory is the framing of casual sex relationships as transactional and based on shallow evopsych "instincts" Interestingly enough I think that depending on the setting Red Pill and even Black Pill can be more accurate. For instance if you're out clubbing. And you're hitting on women. Chances are the girls in the club.... even if they are looking to hook up, they are going to be massively picky for things like looks or even $. Avenues like bars, night clubs, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/24 10:56 PM
4	Why Women and BP Men Don’t Like The Pills I disagree. You can both be aware of the nature of human sexuality and seek a long term partner. I'm a prime example of that. I used many black pill/red pill theories to find my wife. I'm very glad that I had that information. I always had an open mind though. I think blue pill can be right about things. I understand people are different and you can't put em all into neat boxes. And most importantly I was willing to make difficult changes in my life based on the theories. Such as losing weight, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/24 10:31 PM
2	Why Women and BP Men Don’t Like The Pills It may not be a hard science. But there are distinct patterns. Guys generally prefer fit women. They generally prefer younger women. There are some chubby chasers and milf chasers. But you wouldn't exactly tell a fit woman who's asking you for dating advice "You should become a whale" because you know damn well the pool of options would dry up mighty fast. There's lots and lots of patterns. There is a lot of disagreement on what these patterns are and how to interpret them. I prefer the evopsych…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/24 09:50 PM
3	If you're an average or below average man, don't waste your time with dating apps. Google it. I'm Ukrainian/Russian and slavic myself. So my answer will be very biased. Of course I think they are super hot. Especially in Kyiv. Being fat is considered a moral failure so it's less widespread in the youth. Plus they walk everywhere and their diet tends to be a lot healthier.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/24 09:41 PM
3	If you're an average or below average man, don't waste your time with dating apps. It depends on you. For example I'm an American with slavic Ukrainian and Russian roots. It worked like a charm in Kyiv. Found my wife this way. We're very happy. I had more matches in the first day then I did in months of trying in Gainesville Florida.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/24 04:12 PM
1	Is it not advisable for men to date when un or underemployed Women are attracted to Looks, Money and Status. As opposed to men who are mostly just attracted to looks. In college most people don't have any money. But there is a lot of status at play. For example back when the college football players didn't get paid. They were often broke as a joke. But they swimming in vagege. Because they had very high status. Even if they weren't all that attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/24 02:43 PM
5	If you're an average or below average man, don't waste your time with dating apps. Go to a different country. Those apps work like magic over there. I agree they are mostly useless for average men in United States.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/24 02:28 PM
4	Q4W: How would you coach a guy? sleeping with a 1/10 woman gives him 1 point, while doing it with 5/10 woman gives him 5 points. First of all I'd love to hear how you plan on determining which woman is a 1/10 and which one is a 5/10. I suppose you could use a panel of dudes and just average their answers. The issue now becomes. Most women who are in desperate mode would probably fall in the 2/10 or 3/10 range. The 1/10s I don't think you could even talk a dude into sleeping with those without a tub of viagra. So what's easier …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 07:19 PM
1	Q4W: How would you coach a guy? Exactly. As long as he is willing to dumpster dive. He'll be able to rack up an N count without doing a whole lot else.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 06:40 PM
5	Status is everything for men Yes but we're not trying to attract you. He's saying that "status is everything when attracting women". I kind of agree. I think he's overstating it a bit. I always say it's some combo of looks, money and status. But yeah men not giving a shit about a womans status is not exactly groundbreaking news. We never had to. We don't get pregnant. Its innate. It's biologic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 08:18 PM
1	Do you expect to date a person with your political beliefs? Most people don't give a flying fuck about that stuff. They care more about New England patriots than some misandrist feminist shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 06:36 PM
1	Do you expect to date a person with your political beliefs? Not really. I didn't vote for Trump. I didn't vote for Biden. Life went on. Some people wrap their whole life around the politicians they support. Even though they have very minimal input on their actual policies. Heck you have more input on what special McDonalds will run since you vote with your $ on a regular basis (if you're similarly wrapped up in McDonalds that is, I eat there like twice a year). Most people realize it's out of their control and it's trivial bullshit relative to the far mo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 04:08 PM
0	Do you expect to date a person with your political beliefs? Or just regular human males who don't give a shit about trivial stuff. Me and my wife have very different views on feminist stuff. I straight up told her I would give my daughter $ to bribe her to have good grades in high school. So that she can go to a good college and find her a good man. We argue about it sometimes. But very lightly relative to our other arguments. It's just not that big of a deal to either one of us. Just some tangential shit. We argue far more about who's going to take the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 04:04 PM
-2	Do you expect to date a person with your political beliefs? Most men would prefer that she is not a crazy ass feminist. But in reality if she is sufficiently hot they would suddenly stop caring. In fact many of them would pretend to be feminists. It's rich people problems to be able to pick and choose on trival shit. Most guys are happy just to find a cute girl who is into them. Damn her political beliefs one way or another.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 03:09 PM
4	Second-wave feminism led to unsolicited dick pics Most men wouldn't be bothered by unsolicited vagina pics. If it's some fat ugly chick we'd just go "eww" and delete it. But that's it. We wouldn't feel violated or anything like that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 09:23 PM
1	Love doesn’t really exist and it’s detrimental for most people to seek after it Love is just humans pair bonding. We pair bond to raise children together. Many other species do the same thing. It's a simple animal instinct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pair_bond Not only is it real. We can observe it all over the place both in humans and 100s of other species.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/24 02:16 PM
–	The 4B Movement isn't going to happen en masse They "could". But they won't. Trump has over and over said he wants this to be a state issue.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/24 11:46 AM
–	The 4B Movement isn't going to happen en masse Where in Project 2025 does it say anything about getting rid of birth control? Trumps position on abortion has always been "let the states decide". Which means there would be plenty of Blue states offering abortion. This is exaggerated to an insane degree. Project 2025 is not that bad if you actually look at what they are really proposing. Mostly getting rid of the woke mind virus. But even then its not actually Trumps position and never was. It aligns on things like immigration and the anti-wok…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/24 03:19 AM
0	You've just been appointed "Minister for Relationships" and have UNLIMITED political/economic/financial power to make any changes to the dating world EXCEPT obligating anyone to date anyone else. So you value critters more than humans? Morals either come from a religion or from utility. Not valuing fertility is not part of any religion I know. Maybe some outlier crazy one. And it certainly has absolutely no utility. Since it's pretty much all of us committing suicide. So no it's not moral at all. Unless you have some strange self destructive religion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/24 12:17 AM
0	You've just been appointed "Minister for Relationships" and have UNLIMITED political/economic/financial power to make any changes to the dating world EXCEPT obligating anyone to date anyone else. uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Based on what morals? The church of the antichrist? The "we are self destructive idiots" church?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/24 07:06 PM
2	Q4M: Younger boss babe? Or older trad wife? I don't cry and rage about anything. I'm interested in the truth. Both sexes care about looks. Males care about it far more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/24 04:45 PM
0	You've just been appointed "Minister for Relationships" and have UNLIMITED political/economic/financial power to make any changes to the dating world EXCEPT obligating anyone to date anyone else. Basically you would have to apply a ton of pressure for people to form pairs and produce children. That's the key to it all. With these things the carrots work better from the government. Massive tax breaks for married couples with kids. And sticks from society. Basically turn unmarried and people without children into societies outcasts. Treat them like they are wasting their life and time. Also stop with all the "fat acceptance" bullshit. In fact do the complete opposite. Help people get in be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/24 04:41 PM
-1	Q4M: Younger boss babe? Or older trad wife? Why would a guy not choose the younger one? Most of that other stuff is quite secondary to fertility and attractiveness. For some approaching 40s chick to be even on looks with a younger girl. Either the younger girl is quite ugly or the approaching 40s chick was a stunner back when she was younger. But in either case you're still better off with the young one. Unless you already have kids.... maybe then I suppose. But even then you're probably going to have a better relationship with the young …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/24 04:32 PM
2	Politics and dating is so annoying I think people exagerrate shit wildly or compare us to places that don't exist. What country is more tolerant than United States?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/24 01:10 AM
4	Politics and dating is so annoying You do realize the Haitian community in Ohio are all legally here They are very steep outliers. The vast majority of legal immigrants don't face this. You guys always take extremely rare situations and try to paint them as the norm. One unruly black guy gets killed while fighting cops... nobody cares about the 100,000 times it happens and the guy is fine they only focus on the 1. LGBT is shitted on everywhere. Usually far more than in US. US is probably the most tolerant society on the planet. E…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/24 12:44 AM
3	Politics and dating is so annoying Especially if you're LGBT. Most of the planet is significantly worse towards them. Legal immigrants are in good shape. Illegal immigrants should be in an "unstable situation". They shouldn't be here at all. US is also very good on women's rights.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/24 10:08 PM
1	Politics and dating is so annoying Are you responding to the right person/post?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/24 08:51 PM
3	Politics and dating is so annoying No one is increasing taxes on the poor. They already don't pay anything. And they will continue to pay nothing. Abortion bans only affect people in states where they are becoming illegal. Not a big fan of those. Stories about Hatians eating cats and dogs doesn't affect 99.99999% of the population.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/24 08:48 PM
2	Politics and dating is so annoying uhhhhhhhhhhh you think post ww1 Germany was stable??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!????????????????????	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/24 08:46 PM
1	Politics and dating is so annoying The women aren't going to be any better if we start defunding police turning our cities into criminal hellholes. Start doing socialist reforms to our economies. Turning our economy into an inept mess that shits on pretty much everyone. They are not going to be any better if our foreign policy continues to be a gigantic mess that causes wars in Europe and the middle east. Sooner or later it will start affecting us directly. You guys worry about off the cuff remarks that they probably shouldn't be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/24 06:33 PM
2	Politics and dating is so annoying I've seen guys get into literal fist fights over arguments over sports. So yes some insane fan might take criticism of Travis Kelce as some moral failing. While most people just don't give a shit. Me and my wife have very different views on feminism. In fact she gets quite upset when I tell her I will set up our daughter to do great in high school so she can go to a fancy college and find a mrs degree (a good husband). But we're both apathetic enough to the whole thing that it doesn't really hav…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/24 06:15 PM
3	Politics and dating is so annoying Pretty much everyone in United States basically. Politics is a hobby for the vast majority of us. Heck I argue passionately on reddit about political issues. But at the end of the day it's no different than me watching a football game. In reality US is very stable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/24 04:55 PM
1	Are companionship and intimacy needs? You're assuming they had another way to get food and just didn't do it. Let's say it's the apocalypse and there is literally no other way. Then all this moral talk will be completely out of the window. We'd completely revert back to our old animal instincts. Ok let's say he physically restrained millionaire Jane in order to get his bread. Is it really different? Yep that would be considered false imprisonment which is a major felony. So yeah there's a big difference from petty theft and major fe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/24 04:30 PM
3	Politics and dating is so annoying Well some football fanatic will say "OMG YOU SAID THAT ABOUT KELCE". To them it's a big deal and your Haitian stuff is just some political noise and nonsense. You see different people can have different priorities. Football matters to them and what rich white guy is in charge of what doesn't really matter they are all the same at the end of the day. Humans can have wildly different priorities. To a lot of regular people politics is just not that important. Obviously if you're dating someone who …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/24 04:19 PM
1	Are companionship and intimacy needs? I just don't see this "it's fine to harm people to get your needs met". That is not a line that exists for me. It's not moral to fuck someone over just because your lazy ass couldn't work to get food. Never was and never will be. The same goes for rapists and such. Just because sex is a need. Doesn't mean it's moral for you to take away a persons choice about their sexuality. The two are perfectly compatible. 1) Sex is a need 2) Sex must always be consensual You have to really jump through some …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/24 04:13 PM
2	Politics and dating is so annoying They are the same thing. Some people obsess about sports. But most people just casually observe it with some level of enthusiasm. The same with politics. A lot of us simply don't care that much. My best friend despises Trump. I sort of like Trump. You know what we do? We don't talk about it and we get along just fine. We talk a lot more about sports than politics.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/24 04:07 PM
3	Politics and dating is so annoying Because most people don't really give a shit about politics. It's like breaking up with someone because they like the rival sports team. Makes sense for some people but very silly to most others.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/24 04:02 PM
1	Are companionship and intimacy needs? is it wrong to steal food when you are starving to death? Yes its still illegal. It's still all illegal. Regardless of whether it's a need or not. We often need doctors. But that doesn't mean doctors should become our slaves. Even if these actions aren't justified, because food is a need, even deplorable actions taken to meet this need are going to be minimized in a way that they absolutely wouldn't be if food wasn't a need. It doesn't matter. If you enslaved a doctor because your loved one need…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/24 02:12 PM
2	Gold Diggers Aren’t Real I suppose if your goal was having sex with a bunch of proto-hookers. If you have the $ for a $50,000,000 yacht. You can go many places and find yourself a real wife. One that is very attractive and will actually love you. That will produce and raise children with you. That is worth infinitely more than sexing 100s of useless bimbos.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 05:26 PM
2	Gold Diggers Aren’t Real Yeah but the type of women you find on that boat are going to be the gold digger type. You're not going to find some regular girl in college who wants a husband and kids on that yacht. It's going to be those hooker bimbos. Regular girls might find themselves on 1-2 "yachts" then realize that shit is not for them at all. But the bimbos love that life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 05:12 PM
2	Gold Diggers Aren’t Real Yes but thats not a gold digger. A gold digger is... I'll give you a perfect example. This chick I ALMOST went on a date with in Kyiv. She will only see you if you take her to the most expensive restaurant. She expects expensive trips and gifts. But in return you'll get some sex. Don't expect it to be monogamous though. It's just a sophisticated prositute. As opposed to some woman who marries you, loves you, has children with you, raises them together with you, gives you lifelong companionship e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 05:00 PM
2	Gold Diggers Aren’t Real A real gold digger is a special type of creature in my book. All human females value productivity and ability to provide to some degree. Gold diggers are more like prostitutes. They are essentially just longer lease prostitutes that often have very high demands but also are willing to provide more time and services. The thing that makes them particularly pernicious is they are often not up front about their prostitute nature. Most human females do not behave like prostitutes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 04:51 PM
0	Are companionship and intimacy needs? I have heard people say that proposing to women that wearing skimpy clothes invites negative attention is wrong. Like in real life. I heard women discussing this more than once. But it's objectively true. If you understand male sexuality you understand why wearing skimpy shit in most cases invites unwanted attention. And not even necessarily from rapists. Just people who intend to mistreat you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 04:33 PM
2	Gold Diggers Aren’t Real In the wild it is a part of who you are. Remember our sexual instincts are fucking ancient. We probably behaved this way even before humans evolved from more primitive primates. How much resources you are able to attain largely depends on your skills and your genes. The same with your social status.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 04:14 PM
3	Gold Diggers Aren’t Real https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S109051381730315X We found that ratings of attractiveness were around 1000 times more sensitive to salary for females rating males, compared to males rating females. You're projecting. Men don't give a rats ass about your resources. Men are the one's that will look at a chick and whether she makes min wage at Wendy's or a top neuro surgeon. It has absolutely no effect on her desirability. We are like that. Women are not. Males: Primarily choo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 04:12 PM
0	Are companionship and intimacy needs? I'm mostly engaging with the people here. And was talking about people here (not just this subreddit). I have heard people say stuff like that in real life. I just never engage. Cause I'm not that stupid. In real life talking frankly about this stuff is dangerous to your career.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 04:00 PM
1	Are companionship and intimacy needs? I'm calling it what it is. It's a need. I don't have the socialist mindset that you have to provide needs. You need to get that shit yourself. There is a utility element here. You can say sex and intimacy are not a need all you want. But you will never get any sort of resonance with males who can't find women this way. You may as well be speaking in Chinese. Because they feel what they feel and they know its a fucking need. Even if they won't die without it. You're basically completely dismissin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 03:42 PM
0	Are companionship and intimacy needs? That's still not a reason to shy away from sex and intimacy is a need. It's just the truth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 03:41 PM
-1	Are companionship and intimacy needs? Yeah but that's a silly way to look at it. If some guy murders you because they NEEEEEEEED crack. Does that somehow condone that shitty behavior? The two thoughts are perfectly compatible 1) Sex and intimacy are a need 2) Sex and intimacy should always be consensual. Maybe some idiots try to argue that rape is ok because sex is a need. But they are very tiny outliers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 03:37 PM
0	Are companionship and intimacy needs? If it’s a human need, then yes, as a society we have a moral duty to ensure you as a human get this need met for your survival. That’s why it’s not a need. No we don't. Just slapping "a need" title on something and then expecting everyone else to fit the bill is not conducive to a productive society. Human civilisations have existed for literally thousands of years snd we have never once classed sex as a need because that would mean rapists could get away with their crimes, (the poor man had nee…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 03:35 PM
-4	Are companionship and intimacy needs? I don't really talk about this stuff in real life. It's too toxic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 03:22 PM
2	Are companionship and intimacy needs? That is utter nonsense. Just because something is a need doesn't mean we have to provide it for you. That's some stupid socialist idea. Yes the necessity to reproduce and take care of your kids is an instinct. It's also an instinct to feel like shit if you don't fill that role. No society is largely irrelevant when it comes to our biology. It takes society 1000s of years to adjust our DNA. And no nobody is condoning rape or sexual slavery. Because we don't assume that a need HAS TO BE SATISFIED.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 03:21 PM
5	Are companionship and intimacy needs? No your brain perceives it as a personal need. Otherwise humans wouldn't be so obsessed with taking care of their children and wouldn't spend such an enormous amount of time and effort on finding and securing sexual partners. Society is largely irrelevant. You could end up on a deserted island and still think about vagege.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 02:51 PM
-7	Are companionship and intimacy needs? On this subreddit it's quite often. "Don't sexualize me when I wear a skimpy outfit". Like uhhhhhhhhhh.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 02:50 PM
2	Are companionship and intimacy needs? Humans do EVERYTHING to survive. Absolutely everything. Even things like drugs and video games are ultimately just tricking our brains into perceiving that they are doing things positively correlated with survival. Here's the kicker. Your DNA doesn't really care that much about you per se. The genome itself needs to survive. How the hell does it survive if you die without procreating. Procreating is an extension of survival. There's a reason parents will gladly sacrifice their life or go into da…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 02:33 PM
4	Are companionship and intimacy needs? Yes and anyone who says otherwise is talking out of their ass. It's a need for most people. There are some asexual outliers and people who generally just don't need that stuff. But they are rare individuals. The reason there is push back against it being a need is because people generally don't like male sexuality. They find it offensive. Even though it just is what it is because ultimately we are just hairless apes that got a little smarter than the rest of the primates. Yes most males will fee…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 02:22 PM
6	I don’t believe men are primarily valued for how many women they sleep with The relationship is entirely backwards. Guys who are highly valued. Can sleep with a lot of women and many of them do. They are not highly valued because they sleep with a lot of women. Sleeping with a lot of women is a symptom of being highly valued. Nobody really gives a shit if you have sex every night with the same hottie or a different one. It's just that IF YOU CAN constantly have a new hottie that means you probably have some things going for you. Whether you're very good looking, charism…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/24 08:14 PM
1	Is this red pill, and if not, what is it? Just some raggedy ratched narcissistic sack of shit. I suppose those can exist within any pill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/24 04:52 PM
2	CMV: Nice guys don't finish last I never said that there were "advantages to being unattractive". I simply said that you can't posit that some guy having sex with a bunch of women has it better than a guy who is in a long term marriage. Maybe the good looking guy will find a good wife maybe he won't. But that guy already did. At this point in time the "nice guy" is better off.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 05:17 PM
1	CMV: Nice guys don't finish last 2 is the winner because he's going to do 1 with some other woman anyway. You guys act like 2 just vanishes at a certain point. Maybe or maybe not. If he does get to have #2 then yeah he wins. But things don't always work out that way. People who live that life often have trouble with infidelity both from themselves and their partners. No "nice guy" in this context is having sex 1000 times. Maybe not even 100 times. I was talking about married guys. They have tons of sex. Over a lifetime.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 01:31 PM
2	CMV: Nice guys don't finish last So the guy is a winner because he is having "casual sex with hot young women"......... Ok fair enough. But what about when he's 30-40+ and he still doesn't have a family. Probably because he can't stay faithful. Who is the winner then? Cause life is long. You're only 20 for 10 years. You get to be married adult age much longer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 01:28 PM
-1	CMV: Nice guys don't finish last Yeah that's the standard nonsense incel take on long term adult relationships. Yes some relationships are like that. But they are outliers. What you guys fail to understand is that females select on looks, money and status. Meaning that to a female a guy with a lot of status is like a really nice ass or a nice body on a girl. That is just how human females select their mates. That whole "beta bux" thing is just a total misunderstanding of human biology.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 01:39 AM
1	CMV: Nice guys don't finish last We don't control who we find attractive. Though it can change. Knowing how to change it is not very easy. Another way is to just fuck people who are unattractive. But that is pretty awful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 12:26 AM
2	CMV: Nice guys don't finish last Sure. That is perhaps another thing that the incel types lament on. Now if you are average looking. You could do the same thing if you are able to lower your standards somehow. Not the easiest thing to do though. Most guys find it disgusting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 12:15 AM
2	CMV: Nice guys don't finish last That's the whole point. Having to go through a mandatory incel period just to be settled for isn't a desirable outcome. Dangling the carrot of "family and kids" isn't going to change that. It's just nature. Human females select on looks money and status. The incel types want to be selected for their looks. Because they assume that female also select solely on looks the way males do. Which they are mostly wrong about. SOME FEMALES certainly only pick on looks. But most do not. In reality MALES AR…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 12:12 AM
1	CMV: Nice guys don't finish last The married one's are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 11:48 PM
1	CMV: Nice guys don't finish last Only if he got to impregnate her. Otherwise that sex has no long term value. The costs may be higher. But the benefits are significantly higher as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 07:16 PM
1	CMV: Nice guys don't finish last They are complaining because they are lonely. They want a woman in their life. For sex, affection and companionship. Marriage and family provides that in abundance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 07:05 PM
2	CMV: Nice guys don't finish last Assuming those are benefits those are clearly canceled by the higher costs and risks associated with them. The "higher cost" is always present in any relationship. If you're a Chad and you marry a 10/10 Stacy. And you have a lot of sex and you guys have kids. You still have the same potential risk of her cheating on you and leaving your ass. This is a potential outcome of any long term relationship. There's a lot you can do to minimize that chance, but you can never make it 0%. You are thinking …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 07:01 PM
1	CMV: Nice guys don't finish last Marriage has a much smaller failure rate for certain demographics. The goal is to have children and a family. Not random pussy. If it was about random pussy then hookers would solve the problem. But me and you both know they wouldn't. Yes having random attractive women have sex with you is fantastic. But only a small % of men can pull that off. That's just reality. For everyone else it's having a family and a wife. Which really isn't that bad.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 06:49 PM
4	CMV: Nice guys don't finish last The benefit is children and endless supply of sex. Not to mention companionship. Yes divorce is always a threat to a marriage. You have no choice but to take risks when you get into relationship. But it's a risk you have to take otherwise you'll never have a family. Family = goal	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 06:44 PM
3	CMV: Nice guys don't finish last So she had her fun, got it all out of her system, and now that she's ready to stop hoeing the guy that gets the consolation prize is the "winner?" So you have 2 guys 1) Gets to have sex with her over 1000 times. She has and raises his kids for him. Lives in his house and helps him with everything for a life. 2) Had sex with her a few times when she was younger. And do you #2 is the winner for some reason? Cause she was 5 years younger? Why exactly?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 06:31 PM
4	If Spongebob didn't teach you marine biology, you shouldnt be using fiction to talk about women’s attraction. That is not a very good take. Most of the time people are just trying to figure out why this and that. For instance me trying to understand something like "Tall athletic people are better at basketball" doesn't necessarily mean I feel that I am entitled to being better at basketball. It's just a fact. Regarding "bad boys". The reason they are attractive to women is easy to comprehend. Females are innately attracted to men with high status. Criminal bad boys often have high status in their crimin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 05:53 PM
1	"males prefer debt-free virgins without tattoos" is a damaging message Yes and it was always unattractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 11:03 PM
0	"males prefer debt-free virgins without tattoos" is a damaging message It's a case-by-case basis Yes agreed. You take 100 random men. 80 wont like it. 15 will be totally neutral to it. 5 will actually prefer it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 04:46 PM
1	"males prefer debt-free virgins without tattoos" is a damaging message Never knew flowers and butterflies were masculine but okay. It's not the tattoo itself. It's the permanent artwork. You notice how football players paint their faces black before a game. Our ancestors used to do that before they go to war. That's the reason it often lowers your sex appeal. Because it is masculine in nature. Regardless of whether it's a dragon or a butterfly. I honestly dont see how a young person can look at tattoos and not see it as a form of art. The question is what effect it…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 02:59 PM
4	"males prefer debt-free virgins without tattoos" is a damaging message Tattoos on a man is different. Tattoos are masculine. Masculine looks good on a guy. Not so much on a girl. If you're already attractive. Then it won't take away many points. And yes guys often use tattoos as an ice breaker. I know because I used to do that :) You take some average looking girl. Tattoos are most likely just going to drag her appearance down.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 02:51 PM
17	"males prefer debt-free virgins without tattoos" is a damaging message But it's also true. There is a small % of guys that actually like tattoos on a girl. But most guys don't like it. It's like being fat. Some guys like it the vast majority do not. Not slept around is true as well. Though within reason. Most guys recognize they are probably not going to marry a virgin and are fine with it. They just don't want someone who's racked up a massive body count. Regarding loud personality and opinions. In my experience guys don't really give a shit about that. If she's l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 02:30 PM
1	Men need to learn to be happy being single I've done dozens of diets in my lifetime. I've kept the weight off for 8 years before by running every day and generally not pigging out (got fat again after I got married and had a kid, losing it again). I'm explaining why it happens. Not that it can't be overcome. The reason it takes effort to accomplish that in the first place is because you are fighting your nature. Of course it's possible.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/24 04:02 PM
2	Men need to learn to be happy being single Try not eating for 2-3 days. Then let's see how much you're not a slave to your instincts. You guys think humans have transcended animalhood. fart noise not so much. We're still very much animals. Very intelligent animals. But still animals with animal instincts. Soon as you realize that, the very strange behavior of other humans around you starts to make a hell of a lot more sense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 11:19 PM
3	Men need to learn to be happy being single I'm saying that the urge to pair bond is instinctual. Much like the urge to have quality housing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 11:18 PM
2	Men need to learn to be happy being single The effect it has on men is quite different. There's a reason why in Miami for every strip club aimed at a female audience there is like 50 aimed at the male audience. Why there is 100s of female prostitutes for every male gigolo. It is not the same thing. Yes there are some genuinely horny women. But on average males are MUCH hornier. There was ONE GUY that refuted what I said. And he even later said that he masturbates a lot. So it sounds like he still wants vagege. He's just fine rubbing it o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 03:27 PM
4	Men need to learn to be happy being single When did you decide that homeless people are junkies? When my eyes functioned. My job is right next to a homeless shelter. They are almost universally junkies where I live. I always love when red pillers try to act like their version of evolution is the highest law in humans and ignore that our adaptability and capacity for change and intelligence to not be constrained by evolution is far and away the biggest factor of our success and survival. Obviously this boils down to a nature vs nurture ar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 03:20 PM
3	Men need to learn to be happy being single That's not what I am arguing. Of course you can control it. You can't control it happening. You can't control seeing a pretty girl on the street and receiving a ton of dopamine from just looking at her. You can't control feeling like shit if you are failing to pair bond. For the same reason. It's just an instinct. I'm not saying every man is some mindless rabid rapist. Of course you can control your behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 03:15 PM
1	Men need to learn to be happy being single But that is a stupid argument. Even if you removed all of our technology. we would still build wooden huts with sticks and shit. Just like we did 20,000 years ago. One of the reason our population stagnated for most of history is because of our crappy technology. The idea is very simple. And it goes well with your argument as well. Humans do EVERYTHING to survive. Every single action you take is to survive. Which includes your argument about housing. HOWEVER you can not survive your generation i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 03:09 PM
3	Men need to learn to be happy being single A lot of men don't realize it. They spend all day playing video games when they are not at work. Have terrible issues with anxiety, depression, drug and alcohol use. And because of our Politically Correct idiotic standards we are not allowed to tell them why. "ITS BECAUSE YOU DONT HAVE A WOMAN YOU IDIOT".	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 03:05 PM
2	Men need to learn to be happy being single What's with these straw men. The argument is that a species can survive without shelter a lot better than without reproduction. You know what % of children died before their 5th birthday historically? A very high %. And we are still here. Often due to shoddy housing, malnutrition and complete lack of medical care. I promise you if we stopped procreating we would not be here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 03:04 PM
2	Men need to learn to be happy being single Nuclear family is a legal term. Yes that is cultural. Pair bonding is not cultural. It is evolutionary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pair_bond So what you're saying is 1000s of other species pair bond instinctually. But for some strange reason for humans it's cultural? And it just so happens to be prevalent in pretty much every culture and every religion. NONSENSE. This is the sort of stupid socialist bullshit that I constantly fight back against on reddit. Pair bonding is instinctual.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 02:17 PM
3	Men need to learn to be happy being single Yes but there's more to it then that. Human babies are very vulnerable. They need a mother and a father to maximize the odds of surviving to adulthood. Which was far from guaranteed historically. Even 250 years ago 50% of kids never made it to 5 years old due to disease, malnutrition and accidents. For this reason we pair bond. Humans have an instinct to pair bond. Just like many other species. It is actually more important for our species because of how fragile our babies are. This is why we "f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 02:05 PM
3	Men need to learn to be happy being single Ok so maybe you're some outlier who's brain is wired differently. Great. We shouldn't form our opinions on the general masses based on outliers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 01:55 PM
8	Men need to learn to be happy being single We're talking about instincts. Your instincts care a lot about the species level. That is just how our DNA evolved. Many human males are instinctually obsessed with vagina. It's not something they learned. If you never mentioned vagina growing up they would still obsess about females once they hit puberty. Just how the male brain is. This is why this whole "you should learn to be happy on your own" rhetoric is utter disgraceful nonsense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 01:55 PM
1	Men need to learn to be happy being single Indeed it is survival. So shelter, water and food comes first. Of course. If you have a leopard chasing you. you're not going to be like "man I'm so horny". And yes I even agree that homeless men are probably not obsessing about vagege... as much as they obsess about heroin or whatever. BUT we're talking about men with housing. This was initially me saying that this is an instinct. Men don't feel like shit when they are single because they were taught to. They feel like shit for the same reason …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 01:53 PM
1	Men need to learn to be happy being single But we're talking about human instincts here. Our instinct is for survival. You can survive with shitty shoddy housing. You can't survive if you don't reproduce. Furthermore we're talking about modern men here. Almost all of them have housing. So of course they move on to the next layer of needs. Which is reproduction. And since they can't meet that need they feel like shit about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 01:44 PM
8	Men need to learn to be happy being single But not humans. Humans can survive just fine with make shift housing. We did it for 1000s of years. IT IS UNCOMFORTABLE and modern humans will not accept it. But it's perfectly survivable. It's not though. Reproduction can't occur without basic survival needs met, and shelter is a basic survival need. Again we did it just fine for 1000s of years. The tents and cardboard boxes that the homeless junkies have is about as good as what most of our ancestors had. It is absolutely cultural, not instinc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 01:41 PM
16	Men need to learn to be happy being single Like I said to another person. Plenty of species survive just fine without any concrete housing. No specie on planet earth will survive if it stops reproducing. In biological terms. Reproduction is a far more fundamental need for an animal. And we are just very smart apes. As much as people hate to admit it. WE ARE ALSO ANIMALS DRIVEN BY ANIMAL INSTINCTS. Which is why men feel like shit when they can't attract women. It's a biologic animal instinct that tells you "you ain't worth shit".	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 01:34 PM
7	Men need to learn to be happy being single So do homeless people. They have cardboard boxes and tents. Probably higher quality housing than what prehistoric humans had.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 01:33 PM
4	Men need to learn to be happy being single Well let's see Most animals survive fine without any concrete or wooden structure as shelter. No specie on this planet would survive if it can't reproduce. So no I would argue reproduction is FAR MORE important than housing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 01:24 PM
9	Men need to learn to be happy being single Well yes. But you can't expect people to just be happy with shitty living conditions. They can "adapt" and survive within it. But this post is saying "oh you should also be happy too". That would be like going back in time 250 years and telling the slaves "hey you should just learn to be happy in your miserable existence"	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 12:57 PM
14	Men need to learn to be happy being single You don't need shelter. Humans survived just fine with twigs and sticks for 1000s of years. It's just uncomfortable as fuck relative to a home. Just like you can live without a relationship but you're always going to walk around knowing you're missing something.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 12:55 PM
6	Men need to learn to be happy being single Yeah well lots of men learn how to exist inside prisons and lots of people learned how to exist in slavery in the past. Yes humans can get used to living in shitty conditions. Doesn't mean they want to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 12:49 PM
6	Men need to learn to be happy being single Or you know let women wear whatever the fuck they want. But have them understand that this is going to make men look at you. Because we are just very intelligent apes. And male apes like to look at female apes, particularly when they are attractive. I don't give a shit if it is considered misogynistic. It is the truth. And the truth should never be buried by bullshit ideology.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 12:46 PM
5	Men need to learn to be happy being single Yeah yeah I've done a ton of diets. That wasn't the point. The point is that this is human nature. You're at best asking men to suppress their nature. Which you know good luck with that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 12:44 PM
34	Men need to learn to be happy being single You should tell homeless people they need to stop obsessing about housing. The human race survived for 1000s of years without proper housing. They need to learn to live like shit... I mean be happy with nothing.... I mean be happy living like crap... I mean pretend to be happy.... I mean... yeah you get the point. You're talking about human nature here. Men feel useless when they are not in a relationship because that is how our primordial brains are wired. You can't just talk yourself out of yo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/24 12:15 PM
6	There are going to be very bad social consequences of women making 6-7 figure salaries via sex work. Ok... but that doesn't solve the "i like it so I'm going to pay for it" issue. They enjoy OF. That is why they spend $ on it. They enjoy it because they are men and they are horny. As far as women knowing that it will likely just amount to beer $. I believe most of them do. But just like everyone else they think they will be the exception to that rule.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/24 05:10 PM
5	There are going to be very bad social consequences of women making 6-7 figure salaries via sex work. How is teaching kids financial literacy going to make men less horny?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/24 04:55 PM
-1	There are going to be very bad social consequences of women making 6-7 figure salaries via sex work. Right which is why I said "more so now than ever". You're thinking of historical figures. Massive outliers. I'm talking about the other 99% of the population. Yes of course you have thieves, scammers, murderers, strong men etc etc etc. Yes they can earn a lot of $ by being psycopathic destructive leeches. But that doesn't mean that the market has never rewarded people who produce a ton. It always has. And now more so than ever.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/24 04:54 PM
0	There are going to be very bad social consequences of women making 6-7 figure salaries via sex work. Always has been. More so now with the way the current economy works. Consider this. An ugly prostitute might make $5-10 an hour. By hanging out at bars and waiting for guys to get absolutely trashed. While a hot prostitute can effortlessly book $1000 an hour clients. This is the market saying "we don't want your trashy product and WE REALLY LIKE YOURS". The market determines the value of your goods and services.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/24 04:17 PM
1	There are going to be very bad social consequences of women making 6-7 figure salaries via sex work. I mean if people stopped overeating the obesity problem would go away too. But that's never going to happen. Either is men not simping.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/24 04:03 PM
10	There are going to be very bad social consequences of women making 6-7 figure salaries via sex work. So what's the solution? Make only fans illegal? I think most people recognize this and many other problems in society. The big disagreement tends to be on what exactly to do about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/24 04:01 PM
-3	CMV: Telling women how they're nothing without a man/kids is toxic and creates more problems Its the only biologic purpose any of us have. Literally all of us. Not just women. I don't single women out this way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 10:34 PM
1	CMV: Telling women how they're nothing without a man/kids is toxic and creates more problems yes yes I've seen the "less happy" studies. If you asked someone who is currently snorting cocaine if they are happy. Then asked some guy waking up at 640AM on a Monday to take his kids to school. If they are happy. Chances are.... The cocaine guy would be the "happier one" according that line of questioning. However that doesn't mean we should tell people to stop taking their kids to school and just use cocaine instead. In other words they often miss the totality of the situation when they ask …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 10:17 PM
3	CMV: Telling women how they're nothing without a man/kids is toxic and creates more problems That's not true. If you have a shitty husband or wife. You won't get any support. But that's true of any shitty relationship. Otherwise you get a ton of support from both your spouse and your children.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 09:38 PM
-1	CMV: Telling women how they're nothing without a man/kids is toxic and creates more problems Yeah I heard those stats. I'm sure someone nose deep in some cocaine will report being significantly happier than some guy who just woke up at 6:40AM in the morning to drive to work and take his kids to school. Doesn't really tell us much about the totality of the situation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 09:31 PM
-1	CMV: Telling women how they're nothing without a man/kids is toxic and creates more problems Of course not. We're talking on average. As in you take 1000 random parents. You'll find that a large % of them (maybe I dunno 95%). Started to make much better life choices once they had kids. They worked harder. They stopped partying. They stopped doing dumb shit. But yes there's always that 5% (or whatever) of idiots who don't do that. Who are just shitty people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 08:33 PM
0	CMV: Telling women how they're nothing without a man/kids is toxic and creates more problems Also, it sounds quite manipulative, trying to steer them into a certain direction just so they can fullfill your own viewpoint. Like your ambition to have grandchildren seems to be the main driving force, not out of genuine desire for their happiness and wellbeing. It's one and the same. If they don't have kids they will be miserable. That is the core of my belief.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 08:32 PM
2	CMV: Telling women how they're nothing without a man/kids is toxic and creates more problems Elon Musk doesn't need you to have kids to fill his factories with quality staff. He can go to India or China and get them MUCH CHEAPER. They all want to come here anyway. Just give them a visa. They will break their necks to get here. Elon Musk says those things BECAUSE IT IS TRUE. Because very few people are pointing that out. More people need to say this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 08:22 PM
-4	CMV: Telling women how they're nothing without a man/kids is toxic and creates more problems Or rather would you think they have a mental disorder and try to change their minds etc? Definitely that. Although it's worth mentioning a direct approach would never work here. You'd have to do it in a way where they believe it was their idea to change. Otherwise you're pissing in the wind. But yeah I definitely would steer them in the right direction. Just like if they decided to do drugs or hang around thugs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 08:21 PM
1	CMV: Telling women how they're nothing without a man/kids is toxic and creates more problems Some people are just trash. I mean we could argue that trash people should never have kids.... But yeah you're talking about trash. Maybe there is some % subset of people who were never meant to reproduce. But I think it's far more accurate to say that they were MEANT to reproduce but they also happen to be trash so they are trashy parents.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 08:01 PM
-11	CMV: Telling women how they're nothing without a man/kids is toxic and creates more problems What you see as a "natural deviation" I see as some sort of mental disorder. Don't worry I have ADHD and OCD. Embracing my mental disorders has been mighty beneficial for me. If I walked around pretending like it's normal it wouldn't be a good thing. Same thing with this hole "I dont want kids" thing. It's a mental disorder. Maybe you're born with it and nothing you can do about it. Like one of mine. But it's still not good and if you CAN resolve it you definitely should. Sometimes you just can'…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 07:59 PM
-16	CMV: Telling women how they're nothing without a man/kids is toxic and creates more problems The idea that people "don't want to have kids" is a very strange one to me. It's a biologic anomaly. All animals are wired to seek procreation. Animals fight to the death for it. Humans are animals as well. To me a person saying "I don't want to have kids" is akin to an anorexic person saying "I don't want to eat". Technically true. But not necessarily the best thing for them. I'm saying I believe they mean it. But something has to be wrong with a brain to actually feel that way. Nothing will ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 07:44 PM
-8	CMV: Telling women how they're nothing without a man/kids is toxic and creates more problems Its not about being morally superior. If you see a 15 year old eating cake and ice cream all day long. You know that is going to lead them to be a fat ass. That will hurt them in many different ways. So if you point out that "hey maybe you should stop doing that, you're going to regret it in the future". For some reason we as society have decided that this sort of criticism is automatically disrespectful. Even if it is perfectly accurate and comes from a place of care. Teaching women that being …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 07:32 PM
–	What do all of the "lonely men" actually want people to do as a solution? Only legal immigrants and only for now. When we're picky about who we import. When we import Indians with high IQ, good education and good work ethic. Of course they are a net positive. But eventually you're going to run out of talented people to import. Eventually India and China will stop being shitholes and you won't even have this constant free supply of talent across the sea. We need to fix it before it's too late.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 06:37 PM
–	What do all of the "lonely men" actually want people to do as a solution? I wouldn't do the 90 day fiance shit either. You definitely want to move there. Definitely wouldn't fuck with any mail order bride services either. You have to go there physically. Live there. And date like a regular person. But most men wouldn't move there if it wasn't for the women. So it's more than enough motivation to do so.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 04:42 PM
–	What do all of the "lonely men" actually want people to do as a solution? Males = attracted to physical appearance. AKA signs of fertility Females = attracted to a combination of physical appearance, money and status. Aka signs of genetic quality and ability to take care of the family Your money and status skyrockets when you go to one of those countries. No matter what your looks level. You will be able to attract higher quality women. But yes if you're ugly you probably are not going to be dating 7s 8s and 9s. You'd have to stick to 5s and 6s who would never give yo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 04:35 PM
–	What do all of the "lonely men" actually want people to do as a solution? Move to a different country is significantly easier and more impactful. I would definitely still looksmax and lifestylemax prior to doing that. But trying to chase Western women is a bad idea. Too many fatties. Too many women who don't comprehend that the Chad on tinder will never commit to them. Not to mention the quality of woman you can get in a 3rd world country is head and shoulders above what you can get in a Western country. If you can get decent looking women in US. You can get absolute …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 04:05 PM
–	What do all of the "lonely men" actually want people to do as a solution? Here are the ACTUAL solutions 1) We need to be honest about the nature of dating dynamics. Whatever that may be. No matter how uncomfortable it makes us. For example the whole "fat positivity movement" is the exact opposite of that. You will never brain wash men to actually prefer whales. Not going to happen. Just stop. We need to be honest with both men and women about the things that each other finds attractive. We need to invest massive amounts of $ to figure it all out. We're still in a lot …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 03:57 PM
–	Feminism has freed men more than women: my hypothesis I don't really care what other dudes on here say. I'm not looking for some hivemind acceptance. And no matter what they say. It doesn't take a genius to figure out which human sex in our dimorphism is the protector. It's probably not the much weaker and fragile sex. If a female is selecting on money/status. I agree not 100% of them do that. But a lot of them do that. Then that makes the male a provider. There would be no reason for them to select that way if the male was not the provider. Furthe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/24 12:31 PM
–	Feminism has freed men more than women: my hypothesis They do protect. If you were ever attacked by another male. The female is not very likely to be capable of fighting them off. That is why male are bigger and stronger. They don't NEED to do it nearly as much in todays environment. But they are still far better equipped for it. Yes families are often dual income. BUT THAT DOESNT CHANGE OUR DNA. Male is still the provider. I don't think you guys understand how innate tendencies work. Females seek a male who makes $. Males don't give a fuck how muc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/24 12:20 PM
–	Feminism has freed men more than women: my hypothesis Males do provide. In many places and in many families. In the past they were protecting the family from other humans and other animals. Obviously this is the role of the police now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/24 12:13 PM
–	Feminism has freed men more than women: my hypothesis All these posts always forget human nature. We are animals. We are not special creatures who don't adhere to the laws of physics and biology. Human males are the provider. That is our dimorphic sexual role. Feminism isn't going to touch that. Human males are the protector. Human females seek commitment BECAUSE THEY GET PREGNANT. Even in 2024 it is very important to have a committed male companion helping you raise your kids. It was significantly more important in the past. This is how our specie…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/24 12:08 PM
0	Every woman is a gold digger… I think more accurately is that they look at a COMBINATION of looks, money and status. If you have enough status you don't need to be very good looking or even have a lot of money. Same with a lot of money and a lot of looks. They can substitute each other. The status part is important. Because different individuals attain high status different ways. A criminal attains status by being the meanest toughest asshole. Some guy who hangs around nothing but DND nerds is going to attain status by eithe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 10:47 PM
0	Every woman is a gold digger… Maybe once we start genetically engineering humans. Not until then. These are innate animal instincts. Probably predate humans (from our ape like ancestors).	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 10:44 PM
-7	Every woman is a gold digger… Women not wanting children is a biologic anomaly. Probably our front context ability to rewire our motivations slightly. In a strange twist they are rewiring it to be destructive to their genome. Nevertheless just because their brain somehow got rewired in that facet. Doesn't mean it gets rewired in all facets. They still have the same attraction switches regardless of whether they consciously want children or not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 10:42 PM
1	Red pill men, why are you simping for other men? 2 word answer. They don't. Red pill is the pursuit of the truth. The problem with the truth is that it is often not pretty. Not fair. Not how we want things to be. Not polite to say out loud. Buried beneath a sea of whimsical ideals. Because it's not polite to say out loud. Often the sort of individuals who are willing to say those things. Are dubious at best. But nobody is "simping" for them. I'm not even sure you know what that word means.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/24 01:24 AM
1	People who assume romantically unsuccessful men just need to "talk to women" more are naive Top of the line women = most attractive You learn your place in the pecking order = What level of partner you can attract. Some people can attract just about anyone. Some people have a very small % of people that will ever be into them. That can be based on many factors.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/24 12:38 PM
-1	The feminist idea that it’s “natural” that dating for men is hard is peak toxic masculinity Yes but the idea that men go out of their way to hit on women is a "choice" is what I was contending with. Not all the peacocking that goes with it. It's not a choice. It's just natural male behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 10:26 PM
0	The feminist idea that it’s “natural” that dating for men is hard is peak toxic masculinity Do they really "choose" to? Do you choose to get hungry if you don't eat. Or tired if you don't sleep. It's just male nature. Nobody is choosing to do anything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 10:11 PM
13	People who assume romantically unsuccessful men just need to "talk to women" more are naive Alright so the interesting here is the advice really is "Lower your standards". They may not be outwardly saying it. But that's what they really mean when they say you need to socialize. But why? Well the thing is. How the hell do you lower your standards? You don't choose who turns you on. You can't just look at some dirty homeless man and make yourself attracted to him. It doesn't work that way. So why socialize? The thing is humans put a tremendous amount of emphasis on procreation. On having…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 01:00 PM
1	How would the world change if men only had medium to low libidos? Dota 2 probably. Pussy........ I think we could have a good debate there. It's simple nature. Humans are obsessed with procreating. Because without it our species would have died out a long time ago. Males are the horny one's cause they don't get pregnant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/24 01:30 AM
1	How would the world change if men only had medium to low libidos? I mean low libido/testosterone guys do exist. Now denying that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 06:12 PM
1	How would the world change if men only had medium to low libidos? I am absolutely 100% lazy as fuck. No argument there. Yet I am the hardest working person the planet chasing vagege. So what I'm saying remains true. I'm also fairly hard working when I'm grinding Dota 2 or some shit. So more accurately "lazy when it's something I don't want to do".	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 05:28 PM
–	Q4W: Are men and women not so much different? Yes you see that in a lot of societies today. Where the extended family all live in the same house. It hasn't really changed that much. BUT there is always the primary care givers. Which is the mother and the father. It was this way in the past. It's this way now in a lot of places. I never said people "stay in love forever". Some people do. Some people don't. But humans absolutely pair bond. We pair bonded well before Christianity or a "nuclear family" was a thing. The idea that this overwhelmi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 10:44 AM
–	Q4W: Are men and women not so much different? Humans are absolutely naturally monogamous. In certain environments. We pair bond. Just like many other species. We do this because 2 parents raising a child together is far more likely to produce offspring that makes it to breeding age. Otherwise we wouldn't "fall in love" and fathers wouldn't be obsessively protective over their children. It's an easy thought experiment. 100,000 years ago you have 2 populations of women 1000 promiscous that fuck all sorts of dudes. And 1000 non promiscous that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/24 09:43 PM
2	For the men who have tried the common dating advice of joing hobby groups, expanding your social circle, taking a class, join a co-ed sports league, join a book club, etc... how long did it take until it actually bore fruit? That's just how the male brain works. I'm sure if a female was behaving that way. We'd send her to see a shrink. Cause that would be very abnormal. For a guy that's just how we do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/24 01:05 AM
3	For the men who have tried the common dating advice of joing hobby groups, expanding your social circle, taking a class, join a co-ed sports league, join a book club, etc... how long did it take until it actually bore fruit? A) They may enjoy things outside of the house. But everything inside the house is 100 times more convenient and often just as or more enjoyable. So there's really no reason to leave the house. You have to force your self, which means you need to find motivation. Nothing motivates a man quite like vagege. B) The whole "your desperation will show" I find to be total nonsense. You don't really want to be in these fringe situations anyway. The person either likes you or they don't. You're either com…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/24 12:30 AM
6	For the men who have tried the common dating advice of joing hobby groups, expanding your social circle, taking a class, join a co-ed sports league, join a book club, etc... how long did it take until it actually bore fruit? But it's not particularly useful advice. They don't want to be alone. The choices are not 1) Doing thing you enjoy for the sake of enjoyment 2) Sit your ass at home The choices are 1) Do something to trowl for vagege 2) Sit your ass at home Those are the REAL choices. I eventually had to move to another country to find a quality wife. That's the advice I would give most Western men. Stop trying to deal with these Western women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/24 12:09 AM
8	For the men who have tried the common dating advice of joing hobby groups, expanding your social circle, taking a class, join a co-ed sports league, join a book club, etc... how long did it take until it actually bore fruit? Common trope. They wouldn't be doing any of that shit if they weren't "trawling for ass". I did Salsa class btw. It was ok. The women there were too old though. Made me a better dancer. But nothing to trawl. People like that (me included) are perfectly happy to sit at home. Nothing outside is as fun as just playing Dota 2 or some shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 11:53 PM
27	For the men who have tried the common dating advice of joing hobby groups, expanding your social circle, taking a class, join a co-ed sports league, join a book club, etc... how long did it take until it actually bore fruit? It never did. I had to move to Ukraine to find a wife (I'm originally Ukrainian/Russian myself so I already had family there). It certainly helped with my social skills. I think that ultimately helped a ton when I got to Kyiv. But the quality of women available was VERY LOW relative to Ukraine. Practically nothing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 11:42 PM
1	The vast majority of whining about society online comes from people whose personally lives have failed. It doesn't mean society is collapsing. It doesn't mean the West Has Fallen Billions Must Die. It doesn't mean that all women are evil. It just means that you suck and are looking for why Climate change is like Covid. Very dangerous for a subset of the population. Total nothing burger to most. It's just not very easy to predict which subset you are part of. If you live in a developed nation. Chances are it won't affect you all that much. If you live in some impoverished shithole. It will affect you more. Food won't be a problem. We're exceptional at growing food. As it stands we only spend like 2% of our economic strength on producing food. MAYBE we'll have to increase that to 3-…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 10:07 PM
–	What is your experience getting casual sex versus a relationship? I think the quality that matters more is how much she is into you. If you have to choose between a 6 who is saying "I can't wait to suck your dick all night long" and a 9 who is saying "lets get it over with so we can go shopping". You might just go with the 6. But as far as boring, annoying or whatever. We sort of expect all women to be that way lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 08:19 PM
1	How would the world change if men only had medium to low libidos? You make a good point. Hard to know for sure. Maybe asexual brains are fundamentally different and they are just driven by different things. Meanwhile an average dude is either driven by that or nothing at all. I know I was a completely lazy fuck anytime I wasn't chasing vagege.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 08:10 PM
6	CMV: The requirement that your spouse be your best friend is gendered I imagine it depends on the audience you're asking. If you ask a bunch of married 50-60 year old dudes. You will likely get a decent % who at least say it would be a major plus. Where's women will want that at any age. Asking some strung out 19 year old guy if he gives a shit about friendship is bound to get a "man I'd be happy just to get my dick wet" response.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 07:59 PM
9	45% of men aged 18-25 have never asked out a woman in person before. Men, why do you think this is? The correct answer is anxiety. Asking a girl out is very nerve wrecking. Back in the days there was no other way to do it. So eventually men just had to get over the fear. Even if it included alcohol or drugs. Nowadays you got those shitty dating apps. That sort of reduce the need to ask women out. Though I wouldn't actually recommend depending on those unless you're attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 07:30 PM
2	What is your experience getting casual sex versus a relationship? pretty much yes. You get drunk. Take some heffa home. Fuck her. Wake up next day and go "what in the fuuuuuuuuuuck".	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 07:22 PM
1	The vast majority of whining about society online comes from people whose personally lives have failed. It doesn't mean society is collapsing. It doesn't mean the West Has Fallen Billions Must Die. It doesn't mean that all women are evil. It just means that you suck and are looking for why when did society ever work for autistic and neurodivergent people? Society used to be poor as shit. They had to set things up for the average person. Now we have resources to help people. That is a fairly recent phenomenon. But scarcity is still a thing. We don't have limitless resources.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 06:32 PM
1	The vast majority of whining about society online comes from people whose personally lives have failed. It doesn't mean society is collapsing. It doesn't mean the West Has Fallen Billions Must Die. It doesn't mean that all women are evil. It just means that you suck and are looking for why Was it because you were exercising on it? Or just how it affected you in general? I did BJJ for a little bit. Very tough sport.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 05:53 PM
1	The vast majority of whining about society online comes from people whose personally lives have failed. It doesn't mean society is collapsing. It doesn't mean the West Has Fallen Billions Must Die. It doesn't mean that all women are evil. It just means that you suck and are looking for why What are the worst side effects?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 05:33 PM
1	The vast majority of whining about society online comes from people whose personally lives have failed. It doesn't mean society is collapsing. It doesn't mean the West Has Fallen Billions Must Die. It doesn't mean that all women are evil. It just means that you suck and are looking for why damn really it just doesn't work at all for them? I honestly haven't heard much about it since the big news splash when it came out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 05:27 PM
9	What is your experience getting casual sex versus a relationship? I had relationships well before I dabbled in casual sex. So no you don't have to be good at shit. Casual sex was VERY VERY UNDERWHELMING. Mainly because my standards were much lower for that .So by the time I sobered up I regretted the whole thing. The few times I had one night stands with girls I actually liked. It actually kind of hurt cause I wanted a relationship. Was overall not a very fun experience. I would say it's easier to get casual sex. Especially if you mix in drugs and alcohol in a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 05:23 PM
5	The vast majority of whining about society online comes from people whose personally lives have failed. It doesn't mean society is collapsing. It doesn't mean the West Has Fallen Billions Must Die. It doesn't mean that all women are evil. It just means that you suck and are looking for why Ozempic? I dunno. I feel like we still need to do a lot of studies on long term effects of stuff like that. We're certainly much closer to fixing obesity than we were 30 years ago. But I don't know if I would really consider it a job done yet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 05:12 PM
8	The vast majority of whining about society online comes from people whose personally lives have failed. It doesn't mean society is collapsing. It doesn't mean the West Has Fallen Billions Must Die. It doesn't mean that all women are evil. It just means that you suck and are looking for why So "society has fucked things up" is not entirely accurate. More like "society hasn't done enough yet".	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 05:10 PM
3	The vast majority of whining about society online comes from people whose personally lives have failed. It doesn't mean society is collapsing. It doesn't mean the West Has Fallen Billions Must Die. It doesn't mean that all women are evil. It just means that you suck and are looking for why Objectively everything is better in 2024 than it was in 2014. And in 2014 things were better than 2004. On and on. Yeah maybe housing was a little cheaper here and there. But in general the overall wealth has increased tremendously. For everyone. Access to technology has improved. Medicine has improved. You can't point at any time in the past that was objectively better. If you consider enough metrics. 1960s? A lot of cars still had leaded gas, lgbt had no rights, other races had no rights, worl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 05:08 PM
5	The vast majority of whining about society online comes from people whose personally lives have failed. It doesn't mean society is collapsing. It doesn't mean the West Has Fallen Billions Must Die. It doesn't mean that all women are evil. It just means that you suck and are looking for why Because it was somehow better before?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 05:06 PM
–	Average guys are med to feel "dirty" for having sexual desires I spent a lot of time around a lot of males. Was in the military. Had a lot of male friends. We're really not that complicated.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 04:36 PM
–	Average guys are med to feel "dirty" for having sexual desires No this is the case for the vast majority of males. They wouldn't ask you out if they didn't think you were fuckable. Your physical appearance is what determines whether you're fuckable or not. Certain things about you like STD or the fact that you are insane may disqualify you. But usually that's pretty extreme and almost never the case in practice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 03:44 PM
–	Average guys are med to feel "dirty" for having sexual desires I wonder if women really don't get that. If he's asking you out. You're already very fuckable. Unless you tell him that you murdered your last 5 boyfriends or tell him that you have herpes aids and chlamydia fighting over your genitals. He'll probably want to fuck you no matter what.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 03:35 PM
1	Q4W: Are men and women not so much different? That's why I said "like hookers". That sort of implies they are not actually hookers. They just act like it. I never said that every single human beings sole objective is marriage or kids. That was an average observation. In my experience most sluts actually do want a relationship. They are just majorly jaded from having their heart broken by one or several Chads. This is their "rebellious" behavior to show the world how much they don't care. Of course a lot of that is just youth and inexperienc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 01:56 PM
0	Q4W: Are men and women not so much different? Elaborate. How does it contradict it? Are they sleeping around like hookers?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 01:49 PM
1	Q4W: Are men and women not so much different? Yes everything I say is about average observations. You start looking at any individual. You will find many deviations. It works the same way for any trait. You look at some random person they may be taller than the average, may be skinnier than the average, may have a higher IQ etc etc. The question here becomes utility. What is the point of pointing out that in a lot of ways our personalities are similar? What is the goal here? Yes of course they are similar. Our sexual selection is quite diff…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 01:44 PM
1	Q4W: Are men and women not so much different? I think that for a male the personality traits WONT MATTER if she's not physically attractive. Unless he's either hideous or has no standards (which is not common). Yes once you find her attractive. You want to make sure she's not a total nut case. Especially for an LTR. The difference is. Taking some fat girl and making her kinder and whatever. Will make her more attractive then a mean fat girl. But the pretty skinny one with all sorts of daddy issue will still run circles around her in terms o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 12:58 PM
-1	Q4W: Are men and women not so much different? Males have dual mating strategy. Females have just one Males: 1) Fuck fuck fuck. Spread your seed. Maybe invest in one. Maybe invest in none. 2) Invest in one woman. Raise children together with her Females 1) Find a high quality partner and raise children with him As soon as you look at it from that angle. A lot of the male and female behavior starts to make a lot more sense. This is why a female can get on tinder and get bombarded with matches. Guys who are willing to stick their pecker in her…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 12:49 PM
-4	Q4W: Are men and women not so much different? They work the same way. Our temperaments are also quite different. Our sexual appetite and what we seek in a partner is also quite different. The reason I point out physical differences first is because anyone with 2 eyes can see them. But behavioral differences are a lot more nuanced. A lot of these arguments on this subreddit boil down to nature vs nurture. I happen to believe sexuality is highly instinctual and that males and females generally perceive sexuality quite differently due to sexua…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 12:19 PM
4	Q4W: Are men and women not so much different? Sexual dimorphism exists in many other species. It's not a human invention. Yes you're right that these are average observations. For instance there are some female sprinters that can outrun a large % of males. But on average males are much faster. Same with pretty much everything else including sex drive. There are some high libido women. But on average males have a much higher sex drive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 12:06 PM
9	How would the world change if men only had medium to low libidos? That's the mistake people make. Thinking it's taught. Did we teach you to be hungry or thirsty? Did we teach you not to be too hot or too cold? No it's just pre-wired instincts in our brain. Reproduction works the same way. It's just a lot more multifaceted. A large % of men are never going to be as committed to anything as they are at chasing vagege. For a simple reason. If our species didn't have this instinct. We would have just died out already. Same reason we have an instinct to eat or drin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 11:01 AM
3	How would the world change if men only had medium to low libidos? It's just human nature. Maybe you don't like the idea of needing sleep or water to survive. But that doesn't change anything. That is just how we are built.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 10:59 AM
4	How would the world change if men only had medium to low libidos? You'd end up with a bunch of single mothers. Cause men don't want to raise kids from other men (on average). Which is similarly bad for society.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 10:58 AM
14	How would the world change if men only had medium to low libidos? Men just wouldn't be as driven. You wouldn't have nearly as many conquests. Nearly as many innovations. In general the effort level would just be lower across the population. Some people would still be go getters. But on average it would sink terribly. You have to remember for most of human history the population remained rather stagnant. Only recently population has exploded exponentially. If you have 5 kids and only 2 survive. That requires a ton of work. Maybe the new lower libido males would…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 12:20 AM
36	How would the world change if men only had medium to low libidos? Are we talking that some virus ran across the planet and suddenly lowered the libido of every male? As in they had high libido before. Because had it happened in the past. Say 5000+ years ago. The human race would have simply died out. We would have had terrible fertility rates. And would be an extinct specie at this point. NOW if it happens now. We would have far less productive economies. People underestimate how much men work just to get vagege. You'd have a lot of men who are perfectly conte…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/24 11:50 PM
2	Passport Bros victims being forced to justify American expat behavior on social media now Did you hang out by a strip club or something? Where did you meet 100s? "Seemed into the guy" is also incredibly subjective. She cooks and cleans for him. She had and raises his children. She doesn't fuck other men. But she doesn't chase after him the way a young girl chases after a varsity quarterback. To some people that means "she is not that into him". Living in Kyiv was extremely eye opening. Lots and lots of couples where the girl was very attractive and the guy was just some average looki…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/24 08:41 PM
2	CMV: The pronatalist movement is shooting itself in the foot with its talking points You can graph them. Look at the rates of singlehood, single mothers, single people, unmarried individuals. It's all the same graph. I don't know if they've done any studies to tie the 2 together yet. Maybe they have. But I do know that when they do studies about depression by far the most common answer given is "lack of purpose". I ask you... legit question. Where do humans usually get purpose from? Family of course. Not from doing TPS reports at some 9 to 5 cubicle shithole. And yet we teach wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/24 01:27 PM
3	Passport Bros victims being forced to justify American expat behavior on social media now Think of it this way. Let's say we all played basketball for a living. Somehow that was the only job anyone had. I am 6 foot tall. In Netherland the average height is 6 foot 1. In Chile its 5 foot 7. In the phillipines its 5 foot 4. Now no matter what you know about the rest of my athletic ability. I will always earn more $ in Chile and Phillipines. Simply because taller people have an advantage in basketball. If all the economies were equal and everyone played basketball. Me moving to Chile and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/24 11:09 AM
2	Passport Bros victims being forced to justify American expat behavior on social media now You know damn well if these women had the same level of education or higher or even same economic access or wealth they wouldn't date these men. Ahha. Just like if the guy was better looking he would just date local hotties. If you get paid $100,000 a year but there was a ton of companies willing to pay you $250,000 a year. One could say the same thing. "You know damn well you wouldn't work here if there was companies willing to pay you blah blah". Everyone has a market value. Both in dating and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/24 11:00 AM
2	Passport Bros victims being forced to justify American expat behavior on social media now How are these women useless cunts? But the same men as you literally said in a previous comment are only with these women for looks? "Only for looks" is how we determine what turns us on. Men want to be with women who wand them back. They are useless cunts because there is plenty of women who will genuinely like you. So being stuck with a parasitic piece of shit that's just pretending is not a good state of affairs. Women who want husbands and genuine families will date men of their own ethnicit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/24 10:47 AM
3	Passport Bros victims being forced to justify American expat behavior on social media now Yep. But if they are not actually into the dude. Those are the types of women I tell those guys to avoid like the plague. TO THEM they are useless.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/24 10:43 AM
1	CMV: The pronatalist movement is shooting itself in the foot with its talking points It's called pair bonding. Humans pair bond to raise children together. It is not behavior unique to humans. Many other species do this as well. It's simple biologic animal behavior. That exists to produce children and take care of them. We have a particular interest in pair bonding because we have the some of the most fragile babies on the planet. They are born under developed because of how huge our heads are relative to the size of the females hips.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/24 01:44 AM
1	Passport Bros victims being forced to justify American expat behavior on social media now Yes 50% of them are useless cunts who need to be avoided like the plague. The users, prostitutes, sugar babies, thieves, scammers etc. But the other 50% are real women who want real relationships. That's the trick to the whole passport bro thing. Avoiding the undesirables. Not the easiest thing. It's due to mother nature. Males were the provider. A guy with high status and high money is like a chick with a nice set of tits and ass. If her face is half decent she'll get plenty of attention. Same …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/24 01:05 AM
-1	CMV: The pronatalist movement is shooting itself in the foot with its talking points Disagree entirely. It would make absolutely no sense for us to feel such an overwhelming emotional attachment to our offspring and our significant other aka pair bonding partner. If what you're saying was true. Every single nation on earth builds their society around pair bonded family units with children and several generations of parents.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/24 01:00 AM
-1	CMV: The pronatalist movement is shooting itself in the foot with its talking points But its idiotic at it's foundation. It's total lunacy. Humans are wired to want to procreate. If you don't procreate. Then once you get older you're going to be fucking miserable. And we're already seeing that. With the massive rise in drug use, depression, anxiety and all that shit. Ask them why they will probably say "lack of purpose". Well where do you think our ancestors got purpose from 99% of the time? Either surviving or having children. That was our purpose. So you're basically saying "g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 11:43 PM
2	CMV: The pronatalist movement is shooting itself in the foot with its talking points Why do we want to ban welfare? As it turns out that a person who doesn't have to earn. Turns into a lazy sack of shit. And produces lazy sack of shit children. Which actually makes the entire environment much worse. Things like scholarships and military. And other attainment incentives. That is great. But just giving people free shit has been horrific historically. They don't respond the way you think they would. Humans are generally very lazy animals because we had to conserve calories in the w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 11:35 PM
6	CMV: The pronatalist movement is shooting itself in the foot with its talking points how are pro natalists dying out? They are the one's that have kids. The anti natalists are the one's darwin awarding themselves out of the gene pool.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 11:22 PM
1	Do you really not see the connection between the desire to be pursued and Grape Culture? You're blaming the wrong thing then. The reason men always make the first move is due to human nature. How our brains are biologically wired through DNA and millions of years of evolution. Culture can affect it slightly by encouraging and discouraging certain behavior. But the way human sexuality works. Unless you have tremendous changes. The male will always be the one pursuing. Mostly because we're hornier and don't get pregnant. Historically in our species the male was the provider. Thus it m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 10:07 PM
4	Passport Bros victims being forced to justify American expat behavior on social media now I'm what you would call a passport bro. What you're describing is pretty common. I give a lot of advice to people who want to emulate what I did. This is what I always tell them. 50% of women you meet this way are utterly useless. Prostitutes and Sugar babies. Completely useless if you want a relationship. Only useful for sex. But thankfully those are pretty easy to spot and don't really try to hide it. Scammers. These are harder to spot. Since scammers are not going to tell you that they are go…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 08:37 PM
1	CMV: more matches don't mean anything if they're all poor options Pair bonding is very common. Google "pair bonding". There is tons of examples in the animal world of mothers and fathers raising kids together. Yes quite often the male just fucks and leaves. That happens in our species too by the way. But pair bonding is certainly not a uniquely human trait. Far from it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 01:18 PM
5	Passport Bros victims being forced to justify American expat behavior on social media now Reminds me of this skit I made up in my head. Super hot cheerleader and her ugly fat friend are talking. Cheerleader: "I met Dave he's so wonderful". Fat Friend: "He doesn't actually care about you. He just wants you for your face and your body" NO SHIT that's what he wants her for. You really think Dave gives a shit about her personality? This is how attraction works for men. Do you go around introducing your husband/boyfriend like you charmed him only to be disappointed to find out it was your…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 10:46 AM
2	Beliefs in individualism fuel anti-love ideology, and predicates relationships on financial transactions. In effect, transmuting love towards commodified transactions. You're reducing the argument too much. And then countering it. That's got to be some sort of straw man. Just because we are wired to seek reproduction. Doesn't mean that material gain is not attractive. Having children is THE ONLY WAY to achieve immortality. Genetically anyway. Or at least attempt to. There is no other way. Without it your genes die with your forever. We are slaves to biology. Pretty much everything you do can be easily explained by "you need to do this to survive". Everything. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 01:33 AM
1	Beliefs in individualism fuel anti-love ideology, and predicates relationships on financial transactions. In effect, transmuting love towards commodified transactions. Yeah I hear that bullshit all the time. Birth Control is free for the Ghetto. Condoms cost like $1. They got $ for newports, weed and smart phones. But can't afford $1 for a condom. No they just make shitty choices. Which is why they are poor in the first place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 01:26 AM
21	Passport Bros victims being forced to justify American expat behavior on social media now It's simple biologic arbitrage. Women care about money and status ON TOP of looks. Men do not care about that shit. You move to a poorer country. You go from having almost no one into you. To having a bunch of good options for relationships and for sex. But more so for relationships. Which is ideal for someone who wants to settle down. It works out for both parties. Both parties get what they want. Just a bunch of bitter Western women are railing against this. Because they haven't been taught th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 01:25 AM
2	"No" man fails to get into a relationship because of his personality No I don't. I happen to believe it's a combination of looks, money and status. A fucked up in the head Chad will have all the looks to make up for the lack of money or status. So he can still get high quality women. You're thinking of an "absolute Chad". I'm thinking of a guy who's just good looking enough to get in a lot of places most dudes can't. That doesn't necessarily mean he is going to marry Halle Berry... or anyone for that matter. But he can fuck endless attractive chicks and even date…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 12:45 AM
4	"No" man fails to get into a relationship because of his personality People do have different definitions of a Chad. If a guy LOOKS like a Chad. He can take girls home from Tinder and Night Clubs. That is more than most average looking guys can do. I agree he may have a hard time forming a relationship. Though there's plenty of fucked in the head good looking women too so I don't know how hard it would really be. But he's still head and shoulders above average looking dudes. Even if they are more gregarious and healthier in the head than he is. The absolute top o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 12:27 AM
7	"No" man fails to get into a relationship because of his personality I disagree. A good looking guy who is genuinely a Chad. Will find women if he wants to. Unless he is a TOTAL FUCKING MESS. Like yelling at street signs and howling at the moon type mess. Because at the end of the day he can go to a night club get drunk. He can get on tinder. Unlike regular dudes. Those places actually work for a Chad. He might not get any of the women to stick around on the account of his symptoms. But he will at least have something warm to stick his pee pee into that is also p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 12:15 AM
3	"No" man fails to get into a relationship because of his personality It could happen. Anxiety disorders are not always caused by lack of attention from women. For example someone returning from a war. Could very well have a SEVERE anxiety disorder. Even if they are physically attractive. Someone who's been through major trauma. Or just genetically susceptible to it. Lots of different things can cause it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/24 12:00 AM
1	Beliefs in individualism fuel anti-love ideology, and predicates relationships on financial transactions. In effect, transmuting love towards commodified transactions. The one above me lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 11:20 PM
6	Beliefs in individualism fuel anti-love ideology, and predicates relationships on financial transactions. In effect, transmuting love towards commodified transactions. Remember what I said from the beginning. The family is a unit. His money is your money. If he is financially stable. You are financially stable. Look I'm not saying women should vacate the work force. I have a daughter and a wife. I don't want that shit for them. But I do want my daughter to prioritize family. Not slaving away at a 9 to 5 in some miserable office doing miserable shit. You got your entire life for that. The window to find a good husband is rather small (college years and immediat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 10:56 PM
3	Beliefs in individualism fuel anti-love ideology, and predicates relationships on financial transactions. In effect, transmuting love towards commodified transactions. The reason we innovate is to give ourselves better chance to survive and for our children to survive. That is literally THE ONLY purpose any animal has. Including humans. Our brains are very powerful tools. The most complex objects in the universe. The most effective computers in the universe (that we know of). But they exist to survive. And you can't survive if you don't procreate. No one lives forever.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 10:33 PM
2	Beliefs in individualism fuel anti-love ideology, and predicates relationships on financial transactions. In effect, transmuting love towards commodified transactions. Look at the rest of that statement. It is true for both. Family is the most important thing. FOR BOTH. Due to the differences in our biology. (aka something we had no hand in). A male has to concern themselves with earning $ far more. But it's for the same purpose. To find a partner and to raise children. Women don't benefit from having more $ and status in terms of partner choice. Men don't give a shit about that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 10:31 PM
0	Beliefs in individualism fuel anti-love ideology, and predicates relationships on financial transactions. In effect, transmuting love towards commodified transactions. Many much poorer nations have far more healthy and functioning family units and metrics. Middle class has mostly moved to the upper class not lower class. The class with the best fertility rates is the poor class not upper class.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 09:47 PM
52	"No" man fails to get into a relationship because of his personality The problem is personality is such a vague term it can mean just about anything. For example someone with a severe anxiety disorder. That can be perceived as a personality element. Sure if he's a Chad then even with a severe anxiety disorder he will likely be able to find some poonani. But most guys are not Chads yet most guys do end up married or at least in relationships. So it serves to say that having certain personality traits will get in the way or help you. An average looking guy who is n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 09:19 PM
-2	Beliefs in individualism fuel anti-love ideology, and predicates relationships on financial transactions. In effect, transmuting love towards commodified transactions. Through education. We stopped teaching women that their role is to find a good husband and to pop out kids. That was a mistake. Much like a mans role is to find a good woman to sire some children with. Then to take care of them. We are animals. We are built for specific functions. Sure there are outliers. Like gay people and asexuals and whatever. I don't contend otherwise. But it would be a lot better if we made subsections for them. Instead of pretending like this isn't the case.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 09:07 PM
-4	Beliefs in individualism fuel anti-love ideology, and predicates relationships on financial transactions. In effect, transmuting love towards commodified transactions. So it would be more accurate to say. They DIDNT WORK for SOME people. And we destroyed a good thing trying to cater to them. Instead of just building new structures for those SOME people while keeping the existing one's in tact for most others.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 08:05 PM
1	Beliefs in individualism fuel anti-love ideology, and predicates relationships on financial transactions. In effect, transmuting love towards commodified transactions. Car fixed sure. Most people have no business fixing cars. Therapist is a little different. In many cases all a therapist does is let you talk about your problems. Which is DEFINITELY an important role of a significant other. To provide a ear that will listen to your problems.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 07:57 PM
-3	Beliefs in individualism fuel anti-love ideology, and predicates relationships on financial transactions. In effect, transmuting love towards commodified transactions. Spoken like a true feminist :) "I want you to take care of me. But god forbid I have to take care of you" It's a relationship. You're supposed to support each other. You're supposed to be "the other half". His life is your responsibility and vice versa. You're in this shit together. That's why the old sex/gender roles worked so damn well. They were well tailored to our strengths and weaknesses.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 07:56 PM
10	Do men just not care about being abused as much as women? That was me being facetious. It's a different kind of loneliness that a roommate can't fix. I don't know how else I can explain it. I suppose females just don't operate that way. Or have so many options for relationships (even if a large % of them are bad) never encounter this situation thus never experience it. So they think it's the same kind of loneliness when it's completely different.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 07:34 PM
8	Do men just not care about being abused as much as women? So if you had a roommate- someone who was at home to hang out when you got home- would that alleviate the loneliness? WOOOOOOOSH No that's the point. It's a different kind of loneliness. Unless the "roommate" is a hot chick that is going to cuddle you and let you stick your pee pee in her vagege. It probably won't do shit for that loneliness. What about a relationship with a woman that loved you but couldn’t or wouldn’t have sex with you for whatever reason? That sounds horrific. That might actu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 06:55 PM
19	Do men just not care about being abused as much as women? Because it's a different kind of loneliness. You could have a vibrant career, lots of friends, lots of family. And still come home to an empty house every day and feel just as empty as that fucking house. It's like suggesting someone find a hobby when they are starving. Hobbies are great. But they won't give you the nourishment you need. Same idea here. They are a totally different kind of "lonely". GRANTED socializing is a good way to solve the loneliness problem. So it's not completely without…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 06:36 PM
1	CMV: more matches don't mean anything if they're all poor options It has been quite beneficial to the economy as a whole. We just need to acknowledge these natural tendencies and find ways to work around them. Instead of pretending like humans are not animals and don't have a ton of prewired routines for sex and sexuality	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 04:49 PM
29	Q4M men with zero options, do you consider it a silver lining that you can't attract women who would treat you badly, or do you mourn over not being able to attract them as well? The answer is "No". Men with 0 options don't think about this shit at all. It's like a guy who is starving doesn't worry about feeling a tummy ache because he ate too much. It may be a legit concern for some people. But somehow just doesn't cross their radar.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 04:13 PM
1	CMV: more matches don't mean anything if they're all poor options No of course not. It's the role of the human male to provide for the family. Not the role of the female. It's like this in many other species as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 01:54 PM
1	CMV: more matches don't mean anything if they're all poor options I mean I don't think it is. I think it's perfectly normal to care about a potential partner's career, but most of the dudes who post here beg to differ. Men don't care. Innately. Maybe we should. But looks is what tends to matter to us first and foremost. Do you think people share their outstanding warrants? With a little bit of social skills you can figure out when you're dealing with a criminal. I've been around drug dealers. They jumped through hoola hoops to try to make it so that their pote…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 01:30 PM
4	CMV: more matches don't mean anything if they're all poor options That's precisely the problem nowadays. Behaving like a rational female human is "gold digger talk". Go fuck some criminal Chad with 2 warrants out for his arrest. That will definitely secure a great future for you and whatever youngings that relationship produces. Hey at least you got to act like a man for a few days. You're far less likely to find a long term partner acting like a cum receptacle for poorly vetted men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 01:17 PM
5	CMV: more matches don't mean anything if they're all poor options It's not rocket science. In fact mothers used to teach their daughters how to vet potential partners as their primary education back in the days. Because they recognized how important it was to sift through the weeds. Does he have a job? Does he dress well? Does he talk like he's mentally handicapped? Does he have many friends? Did he pay? Did he bring a gift? Simple shit like that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/24 12:43 PM
5	How can you tell between "High Value Women" and "Low value Women"? Low value women have one (or several) of these traits: 1) Sleep around with a lot of men 2) Psychotic 3) Addicted to drugs or alcohol 4) Unattractive 5) Aggressive 6) Has children from someone else (not necessarily "low value" but it does lower the value of a woman quite a bit) Usually if you're very attractive. You don't have #4 and a lot of men will forgive the other one's.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/24 01:18 AM
–	If men don't exclusively care about sex then why do they devalue everything else about a woman? Because it is innaccurate. Men want a wife and a family. But they don't want to wake up to a scarecrow.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/24 12:55 PM
–	If men don't exclusively care about sex then why do they devalue everything else about a woman? If you're choosing between an ugly surgeon and a pretty Wendy's worker. You'll pick the Wendy's worker. If you're choosing between a pretty surgeon and a pretty Wendy's worker. Then maybe it comes into play. The physical appearance is far more important.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/24 03:04 AM
–	If men don't exclusively care about sex then why do they devalue everything else about a woman? There is no picking. Either our lizard brain likes what it sees or it doesn't. The rest is far less important. That is how average males operate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/24 03:03 AM
1	If men don't exclusively care about sex then why do they devalue everything else about a woman? Education is not nearly as important as IQ. Some people at Wendy's have decent IQs they are just lazy or had a bad upbringing. I agree that doctors usually end up with other doctors. I just don't think them being a doctor really matters that much to the dudes. They just happen to be around other doctor women a lot. Or nurses or whatever. You tend to date your crowd.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/24 12:40 AM
3	If men don't exclusively care about sex then why do they devalue everything else about a woman? That's more of a function of the women that are around them. If they hung around a bunch of attractive Wendy's cashiers. They wouldn't be like "no I'd rather date a fat lawyer or nurse". Physical attraction trumps everything. Yes other things matter AFTER that. But not before.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/24 12:21 AM
3	If men don't exclusively care about sex then why do they devalue everything else about a woman? It's not that he's "picking looks over everything". People don't choose what turns them on. You don't have that much control over it. We just pick based on looks because that is how our primordial brains are wired. You can't really change it. Yeah if a guy has a choice between many good looking women. He probably should go for the well rounded one's with decent jobs etc. But if it's just a bunch of uglies and a good looking Wendy's server... You get the drift.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/24 12:19 AM
2	If men don't exclusively care about sex then why do they devalue everything else about a woman? A male surgeon isn't going to date some plain jane doctor over a very attractive Wendy's fast food worker. Our brains just don't work that way. On average anyway. The thing is male surgeons usually get to pick from a lot of people. So yeah they'll go for an attractive female surgeon. People also tend to date and marry the people in their social circles. Surgeons are not going to be hanging out with too many fast food workers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/24 10:15 PM
6	If men don't exclusively care about sex then why do they devalue everything else about a woman? Male surgeons also tend to have something to pick from. If you have 2 equally attractive women. Yeah you'll go for the doctor one. Average dude isn't going to be like "No I don't want to date that hottie cause she works at Wendy's". The physical attractiveness is farrrrrr more important. It's pretty much the only determinant to even see if we care about your career.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/24 10:04 PM
8	If men don't exclusively care about sex then why do they devalue everything else about a woman? I think people just don't understand what men mean when they say "we don't care". It means that stuff doesn't turn us on. If you're good looking we don't give a shit if you're a surgeon or a Wendy's fry clerk. It makes absolutely no difference. We would obviously PREFER a surgeon. But no man is going to be like "yeah she's hot but she works at Wendy's". Our brains just don't work that way. A large % of men are this way. Not just the red pill guys.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/24 08:11 PM
2	If men don't exclusively care about sex then why do they devalue everything else about a woman? It's not that we "devalue" it. We just don't care about it when it comes to "who do I want to fuck". You're either good looking or not. And if you're good looking we mostly want to make sure you're not fucking insane or something. Your hobbies, career, education etc. Why would that even matter when it comes to "do I want to fuck her"? It's all instinctual anyway. We don't control what makes our pecker hard. We don't control who we find attractive. That's just how it works for men. Those things j…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/24 07:59 PM
7	Correlation does not equal causation. I did. I'm trying to understand what message you're sending with this. You didn't really make it clear. All those stats. But no concise message. So can we agree that most criminals are men, not that most men are criminals? If so, then most single moms dont have broken homes, most broken homes have single moms. Like so what? What's the conclusion here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/24 02:27 PM
7	Correlation does not equal causation. A single mother household is far more likely to have bad outcomes. So we aim to minimize them. What is wrong with that according to your logic?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/24 02:15 PM
–	Correlation does not equal causation. To be fair white people shit on high achievers as well. It's a very common tactic among the riff raff. There just happens to be a lot more riff raff in black communities.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/24 01:42 PM
–	Correlation does not equal causation. It's not necessarily because men are incarcerated. Something like 70% of children are born out of wedlock. A much smaller % of men are ever incarcerated. I grew up around the hood. "That ain't my baby" was a very common sentiment among the black male youth. Meaning sex feels good. It feels good to bust a nutt inside some warm vagege. But when it came time to take care of the baby. "That ain't my baby". In a lot of cases the woman was sleeping around so they might even be right. Just a rotten sub…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/24 01:35 PM
3	Correlation does not equal causation. Wait so your argument is that men who are raised by crackhead mothers are solely responsible for growing up with criminal tendencies? The crackhead mother who had a child in that condition bears no blame at all in your equation? Single mothers make bad decisions that we all suffer from. Sometimes through no fault of their own like picking out a bad man who leaves them. But in a lot of cases just acting on impulses. There's a reason we used to teach women to save their vagege for marriage. I unde…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/24 01:23 PM
2	Start raising "normie" sons That's that modern crack. The withdrawals from video games is significantly easier than old school drugs. But still quite destructive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/24 08:32 PM
7	Why do people say Tinder doesn’t work? It’s just an interface that mirrors real life dating preferences Tinder tends to be a sausage fest. Which makes the women far pickier. Of course a large % of men are going to think it's a useless waste of time. Because it is for them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/24 06:30 PM
1	Social skills are fundimental to being successful in relationships, and they are more important than looks, status or wealth. I'm average height but I have a strong, distinct voice and I'm very good looking. That explains why you think social skills matters the most :) That's like a 6 foot 9 athletic freak who plays in the NBA who says it's all about practicing. Yeah practicing is important. But you can't practice your way into that body. And no amount of practice will put you in an NBA roster if you're just average height. You have to be insanely skilled (which is also innate) in order to make it as a short person. An…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/24 12:44 AM
1	Social skills are fundimental to being successful in relationships, and they are more important than looks, status or wealth. Nobody is born with the ability to command a room. It's a skill that is learned. Some people already have good social instincts and need just a few pointers to get it, others don't and need a lot more work. Either way, they still have to learn it. This also not nearly the only relavent social skill that affect your "vibe", there's a long list. I mean yes and no. It's genetic. But how much you develop it is not. It's a lot easier to command a room when you're built like a tank, have a deep voice …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/24 12:21 AM
1	Social skills are fundimental to being successful in relationships, and they are more important than looks, status or wealth. Women are all about vibe and around 50% of that is how he acts and 50% how he looks. The "how he acts" part is all social skills. Of the 50% of "how he looks" around 75% is genetics and fitness, and 25% is how he dresses and takes care of himself, which is also... social skills. So you have 62.5% of the equation determined by social skills. How would you quantify "vibe" in evolutionary terms? We're just animals after all and sexual selection is highly instinctual. I contend that what they call "…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/24 11:53 PM
17	Q4M: Ever turned down sex with a woman? What happened? Yes many times. They were just ugly and I didn't want to fuck them. Most of them just buzzed off. There was this fat black girl who liked me when I worked at Wendy's. Her and all of her friends started to hate me afterwards. Said that I was racist. Then I started to date a skinny black chick lol. But yeah mostly uneventful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/24 09:25 PM
1	Social skills are fundimental to being successful in relationships, and they are more important than looks, status or wealth. I disagree. When looking at what males and females choose on. This is how I always say it. Males: (on average) Primarily on looks Females: (on average) On a combination of looks, money and status. Social skills is something really most people have. Some people do have innate charisma. But you're not likely to develop that if you don't already have it. Unless you were home schooled or very very very sheltered. You probably already have decent social skills. The thing about money and status. Weste…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/24 08:08 PM
4	Social skills are fundimental to being successful in relationships, and they are more important than looks, status or wealth. The thing about social skills is that they only matter when you're at a deficit. Most people who frequently socialize already have social skills. Focusing on them is not going to change anything. It's as if, if most people were already close to optimal body fat. Going to the gym wouldn't make that much of a difference. Sure to some basement dweller or some introvert hermit. This can make a big difference. And it really is often the reason for people struggling with dating. Won't argue that. But …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/24 05:55 PM
-1	Why there are so few dominant/provider women? Biology. Males are the providers. We are stronger, faster, more endurant, more aggressive, more competitive etc etc etc. The difference probably started out due to pregnancy. Then over 1000s of generations (even before we were humans) got solidified into this relationship where the male provides for the pair bond and the female nurtures the young. Doesn't mean that females are not capable of providing. They are actually quite capable as well. Just not as good at the tasks that require brute forc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/24 11:44 PM
1	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? Most Royalty lived with some sort of malady. They often outright died from simple infections. Western "poor" still have access to way more food than the Royals did. They have infinitely better entertainment. They all have smart phones. Most of them have cars. They live in very nice houses with air conditioning. There were some things that the Royals had better. They had more power, clout and had sex with very attractive people. But materially the modern poor are WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better off. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/24 11:10 AM
5	How would dating world change if heterosexual men only had sex when in a monogamous relationship? Yeah but in that scenario the good looking men will only want good looking women. Since they don't have sex when its not a relationship. Why the fuck would a good looking guy date an average chick. He doesn't have to. The dating apps bridged the gap for him too. It would even things out A LOT.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 04:55 PM
1	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? Wanting to have sex and wanting to have children is the same instinct as you correctly pointed out. Why does sex feel good? Your biology rewarding you for good behavior. What's the good behavior? Reproduction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 03:10 PM
1	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? yes of course. But at the same time biology instructs to pair up through pair bonding. Biology makes us extremely attached and defensive of our children. Without those instincts our fragile babies would never survive into adulthood. We have the most fragile babies in the entire mammal kingdom. They are born very underdeveloped due to the huge size of our heads.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 02:56 PM
3	What’s your definition of the pills and why did you choose yours Blue Pill: Mainstream opinion. Mostly focused on nurture. Neglects human nature as much as possible. Red Pill: Less mainstream opinion. More focused on nature than nurture. Still focuses on behavioral aspects as well as social status. Black Pill: Very fringe opinions. Almost entirely focused on nature. Very little nurture acknowledge. Very heavily focused on looks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 02:05 PM
1	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? No enlighten me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 12:46 PM
2	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? I'm not. I am talking about biology. Biology doesn't care about our opinions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 12:45 PM
1	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? Sure in some ways they had it better. But for the most part they had it worse. Mainly due to medicine and dentistry. As well as the shitty quality of everything they had. No electricity, no modern transportation, no modern housing, no AC, no internet, no smart phone, no modern clothing. Not to mention constant warfare.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 12:44 PM
0	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? Lifestyle has something to do with it too. But it has more to do with food over abundance than anything else. If we had the same lifestyles and still had food scarcity. Well we wouldn't have our lifestyles because people would be too hungry to sit on their asses :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 12:43 PM
1	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? It's because poor people tend to have the most impulsive behavior. So early sex, no protection.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 12:42 PM
1	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? They didn't have access to electricity. So pretty much none of our entertainment. Medicine is a big deal. A simple infection could leave them scarred. Women regularly died giving birth. A lot of kids never reached adulthood even in perfect situations. A bad tooth could mean months of horrific pain. Trust me noone would want to live like them. Even if they didn't have to "work".	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 12:41 PM
1	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? I keep repeating this. If this was the case we would have died out a long time ago. Children are extremely difficult to take care of. If we didn't have an instinct to dedicate our lives to them. To pair bond into couples. Human race would have been wiped out a long time ago.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 12:39 PM
0	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? No the obesity problem is because food is super abundant. Human brains evolved without refrigeration, without conservatives, without ability to store food indefinitely. Without massive amounts of food available at Publix. We evolved in places where you better eat when you can. We still feed this day. This is why in any country where food is super abundant. People tend to get fat. You have to work your ass off to stay fit and it takes almost no effort to gain weight. It's simple human nature. Hum…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 02:37 AM
3	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? Yes of course I know that. The main reason wealth has grown so much is because of technology. Particularly our ability to mass produce shit. Just 30 years ago a smart phone would cost you $10,000,000 and it wouldnt even have all the apps. Now you can get a used one for less than $100. Technology makes things way more accessible. That is PRECISELY how our wealth has grown. That is precisely why I said that our great great grandchildren in 200 years will look at how we lived and be horrified. The …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 02:32 AM
1	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? We should encourage middle and upper class to have more kids and to pair up more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 02:20 AM
1	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? Ok I want you to picture the life of the 33% percentile person in USA in 1800s. One piece of clothing. Terrible shack with no AC, no plumbing, no electricity. Certainly no entertainment. Constant hunger not enough food. Hardly any medicine. And constant work work work. On the farm. Now the 33% percentile person in USA in 2024 A decent apartment with AC, Plumbing, Electricity, Internet. A fridge full of food. Tons of clothes. Tons of toys. Smart phones. Access to cheap medicine. Access to so much…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 02:18 AM
2	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? If humans abandoned their babies. If humans didn't pair bond. Human race would have been gone a long time ago. It's not just about fucking. Raising a child takes a tremendous amount of effort and resources.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 01:52 AM
-1	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? For the top 2% of the population, sure. The average person is drowning in inflated prices with stagnant wages. In case you hadn’t heard, trickle down economics doesn’t work. No it has grown massively for everyone. EVERYONE Just compare how some average Joe lived in 1800s. With constant starvation. Atrocious housing. No electricity. Very little food. Almost no medicine. We are MUCH wealthier than them. Obesity is due to processed foods and poor nutrition. Impoverished communities experience ‘food…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 01:50 AM
2	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? American poor are pretty educated. They have tons of access to contraceptives. That may not be the case for Africans. And no they don't need "hands to maintain their home". This ain't the 1800s. Contraceptives are like $2 man. Poor people can afford iphones and newports. They could afford condoms. Shit they can get free birth control at the health department.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 01:47 AM
6	If the RP ideas you subscribe to don’t work what’s your plan? They worked :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 01:46 AM
0	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? And yet poor people have the best fertility rates. Rich and middle class is where our fertility has the worst metrics. The people who can afford to have kids are having the least amount of kids. This is btw a pattern we see throughout the world. African countries have by far the best fertility numbers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 01:36 AM
1	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? If all we did was fuck we would have died out a long time ago. We also have an instinct to pair bond. And to raise children together. That is what we call "love".	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 01:35 AM
0	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? The wealth in the world is growing at an insane rate. 200 years ago most people were wondering when their next meal will come. Now our "poor" people are obese as fuck. Food is super abundant. We have things like vaccines, antibiotics, advanced medicine. We have very fancy housing relative to what we had 200 years ago. And our rate of progress is only increasing. 200 years from now they'll look at how we used to live without AI, nano technlogy etc. And just go "holy shit those poor people".	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 01:35 AM
-2	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? That stupid fucking study. Most Americans have $1000s available on credit cards. What that study said was they didn't have $1000 in savings. The trick is THEY DONT FUCKING NEED IT. If you have $20,000 on credit lines. The fuck you need savings for.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 01:32 AM
1	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? Every single human alive cares innately. A lot are just not aware of it. Or have built entire personas around "I don't need kids". If humans weren't deeply invested in reproducing. We would have died 1000s of generations ago.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 01:06 AM
-3	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? That's sillyness. Poor people today live better than barons and royalty did 200 years ago. We have way more actual wealth. Chances are your grand kids will have more wealth than Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk. At the rate of which our economy is improving.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 01:05 AM
1	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? Every single human alive cares innately. A lot are just not aware of it. Or have built entire personas around "I don't need kids". If humans weren't deeply invested in reproducing. We would have died 1000s of generations ago.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 01:04 AM
0	It isn’t victim blaming to suggest that certain behaviors increase the likelihood of sexual assault and encourage women to avoid these behaviors for their own protection. Why do you guys always assume that it means we're excusing it? If you get robbed because you decided to go into the hood at night. Does someone pointing out that this behavior was a bad idea somehow remove the culpability from the thieves? Of course not. You can make choices that significantly reduce the % chance of you being a victim of a crime. The criminal is still the one committing the crime. Is that really something you guys can't wrap your head around? Legit question.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/24 05:42 PM
-1	It isn’t victim blaming to suggest that certain behaviors increase the likelihood of sexual assault and encourage women to avoid these behaviors for their own protection. Its just like the OP said. If you don't want to get robbed. Don't flash $ in the hood. Don't hang out in bad places. If you don't want to get raped or a bunch of other bad things happening to you. Don't go out looking like a hooker. Not sure how else I can say it. There's a reason no father in his right mind would encourage his daughter to dress like a slut. He understands that it's bad for her in many different ways.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/24 05:40 PM
0	It isn’t victim blaming to suggest that certain behaviors increase the likelihood of sexual assault and encourage women to avoid these behaviors for their own protection. When did I ever say that? I never said that. Some men are dangerous. Maybe 1% of them. In a lot of cases those dangerous men victimize those closest to them. That is why you get these "I was wearing regular clothes" exhibits. They were raped by their fathers, brothers, step fathers, boyfriends, husbands, neighbors, friends. BUT AT THE SAME TIME. If you go out clubbing. Looking like a hooker. Getting drunk as fuck. Those same 1% of pieces of shit. Are paying attention to you. You are inviting the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/24 04:50 PM
0	It isn’t victim blaming to suggest that certain behaviors increase the likelihood of sexual assault and encourage women to avoid these behaviors for their own protection. It does matter. Anyone with 2 brain cells understands that it matters. A woman dressed provocatively who gets intoxicated and hangs out in unsavory places like nightclubs and bars. Is in far more danger then a woman who doesn't behave this way. That doesn't mean that every woman who gets raped behaves this way. That may only be true for 30-40% of rape victims. But it's still an effective way to prevent bad shit happening to you. Rape is not the only bad thing that can happen to you in that envir…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/24 04:46 PM
0	It isn’t victim blaming to suggest that certain behaviors increase the likelihood of sexual assault and encourage women to avoid these behaviors for their own protection. You are putting yourself in a position to get raped by dressing that way. By getting intoxicated in dirty places. Yes rapists don't care. But if you're inviting the attention of unsavory individuals. That is what you're going to get.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/24 04:09 PM
-1	It isn’t victim blaming to suggest that certain behaviors increase the likelihood of sexual assault and encourage women to avoid these behaviors for their own protection. Not everyone who's ever been robbed was walking around the hood flashing $100 bills. That still is a stupid thing to do regardless. Yes some people get raped in regular clothes. You are still inviting a ton of unwanted attention by dressing like a prostitute and hanging around places where the criminals like to hang out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/24 03:44 PM
-2	Do "Chads" really don't have any feelings for their lays? I don't think that really makes someone a Chad. We don't know what you look like. Some 23 year olds are very attractive. Some not so much. If a 36 year old guy dumpster dives with a 23 year old. That doesn't make him a Chad by any stretch. A Chad is a dude that has attractive women wanting to sleep with him without even necessarily requiring a relationship. Usually because of how he looks. The attractive part is pretty important. If you're a dude with 0 standards who will sleep with anything. Ye…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/24 04:26 PM
4	Are women that accept money for sex really that bad? It's somewhat innate. A woman who sleeps around. In the wild you can never be sure you're the daddy if you guys get into a relationship. Thus she is seen as a "poor long term partner" even if she is attractive and has many other positive qualities. Humans in general put a lot of weight in a persons sexual prowess in how they treat them. That is called the Halo effect. Especially younger people who are not married and don't have kids yet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/24 03:30 PM
9	Are women that accept money for sex really that bad? Awful people or awful potential partners? You sure as hell don't want to date a prostitute for example. Dating an OF model is also potentially very troublesome. I think too many people conflate "this person would make a bad partner" with "this is a bad person". They are not the same.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/24 02:02 PM
1	Why are so many people just unable to separate what is moral with what is true? Society enforcing some sort of standards is a totally different assertion from Chad giving a damn and avenging his one night stand. Yes some societies would punish a man for killing his cheating wife. A lot of them didn't. Some to this day do not. But we're also talking about innate tendencies. This sort of shit takes many generations to form. Probably 100s of thousands. So we're talking about our ape like ancestors here. Our ape like ancestors didn't have police departments and courthouses. The…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/24 10:56 PM
3	Why are so many people just unable to separate what is moral with what is true? You really think Chad is over there checking up on the dozens of women he impregnated to make sure their boyfriends didn't off them? Come on now. It's a simple numbers game. If he has 50 kids and of those 20 grow up into adulthood through no effort of his own. He is a very successful gene spreader.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/24 10:26 PM
0	Why are so many people just unable to separate what is moral with what is true? You're assuming Chad cares. By the time the woman knows she's pregnant. Chad forgot she exists and is in the village next door impregnating some more women. But yes I suppose if Chad did manage to catch feelings. That is a very plausible outcome. It still happens to this day. Probably happened a lot more in the past.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/24 10:07 PM
0	Why are so many people just unable to separate what is moral with what is true? My assertion is that disgust triggers are innate. But we don't develop them right away. Yes people with broken brains do it in adulthood. Very few healthy adults do it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/24 09:57 PM
18	Why are so many people just unable to separate what is moral with what is true? But that's besides the point. We can agree that a man being attracted to a fertile 18 year old even at 45 years old is totally "natural". And at the same time say that it is probably not a good idea for them to engage in a sexual relationship regardless. It's natural for me to want to murder the guy who is tailgating me on the interstate. But that doesn't mean I think it's a good idea to spend my life in prison over something so petty. The point we're really making is that "This is how it is, we…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/24 09:53 PM
1	Why are so many people just unable to separate what is moral with what is true? Babies can't speak or walk. Toddlers can't do simple math. It takes time for certain parts of the brain to develop. How many adults you know that enjoy playing in piss and puke?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/24 09:50 PM
1	The dating imbalance can be explained by one factor: hypergamy OMG this trash again. Kids were raised by their parents back then. We didn't have marriage. But we did have pair bonding. Which is something many other species have. Religion didn't invent pair bonding. All these other animals don't pair bond because the pope told them to. It's instinctual behavior for them. And it's instinctual behavior for us. It would make absolutely no sense for fathers to become fanatically obsessed with their child. If that wasn't the case. So they weren't raised as part o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 10:29 PM
1	The dating imbalance can be explained by one factor: hypergamy That is not why they conceal it. They conceal it because it forces the man to stick around if he wants to ensure parentage. The exact opposite of what you're saying. A man who finds out that the child is not his is liable to kill you and the baby in the wild. He certainly won't stick around. That is a very dangerous gamble to play.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 10:27 PM
–	The dating imbalance can be explained by one factor: hypergamy It doesn't make sense for women to do that though. Imagine what would happen to a Chad chaser in the wild back in our jungle days. She'd fuck him. Get pregnant. No abortion. No child support. He'd leave her ass. Then the men around wouldn't want anything to do with her. Because they don't want to raise another mans kid. Her best bet is to wait until the kid is a little older then spread her legs for another guy. The far better strategy is to spread your legs for a guy who will actually stick aro…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 01:34 AM
1	The dating imbalance can be explained by one factor: hypergamy Debunking Myths About Male Sexuality In my experience it's usually physical for men and emotional for women. From my own relationships anyway. With either me as the cheater or me getting cheated on. It was also EXTREMELY impulsive on my end. Granted I haven't really looked into it that much. So it's just anecdotal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 01:29 AM
2	The dating imbalance can be explained by one factor: hypergamy Look at the scientific study. This is actually for relationships. Casual sex tends to be based more on physical appearance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 01:26 AM
3	The dating imbalance can be explained by one factor: hypergamy Humans cheat in general. Men actually cheat more often than women. The difference is when a man cheats, he fucks some woman and forgets about her. Women usually tend to break off one relationship in favor of another. It can happen for all sorts of reasons. Sometimes it's even the guy treating the woman like shit. Sometimes the woman is just a cunt.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 01:20 AM
8	The dating imbalance can be explained by one factor: hypergamy I like to think of it like this. You have a really hot chick talking to her fat friend. The hot chick is talking about some guy she likes that she just started seeing. The fat chick goes "you know he just likes you for your face and your body". WELL NO SHIT. What else do you think he would like you for? You personality? That is what attracts men. Your face, your hips, your ass, your tits, your overall body shape, your hair. Etc Those are things that attract men. The things that attract women als…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 01:16 AM
4	The dating imbalance can be explained by one factor: hypergamy Yes I'm talking about money/status as an attractor for females. Very difficult for men to internalize that. Our sexual instincts are not like that. Yes I agree that most people date and marry people who look similar, earn similar etc. There's a reason for that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 01:06 AM
0	The dating imbalance can be explained by one factor: hypergamy But they are not gold diggers. A true gold digger is just a sophisticated prostitute. Someone who fucks you and you wine and dine them and give them a stipend. I'm talking about real relationships. Where people pair bond (aka fall in love) and develop an actual partnership. Where they raise kids together. On the surface they may look similar. But they are completely and utterly different on the inside. One is a real relationship and one is just fancy prostitution.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 01:02 AM
–	The dating imbalance can be explained by one factor: hypergamy My sister once bluntly said "I can not date a guy who makes less than me. I just can't do it". I suspect this is the real reason. Money and status is how a large % of men attract women. But because women are actually outpacing men in college attendance and graduation. There's not enough men who are either good looking enough to date for looks alone or have enough money/status to attract women. It's a problem for both parties really. In some ways a woman significantly lowers her dating pool by ge…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 12:56 AM
–	The dating imbalance can be explained by one factor: hypergamy It would make absolutely no sense for nature and the human genome to set things up this way. Here's a far more reasonable outlook. Males: (on average) Select on physical appearance Females: (on average) Select on some combination of physical appearance, status and money Furthremore it is the MALES that have a dual mating strategy not the females. Male dual mating strategy 1) Bang bang bang skeet skeet. Fuck as many attractive women as possible. Maybe settle down with one maybe none. 2) Long term…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/24 12:47 AM
–	Physical attraction isnt a shallow thing to desire Evolution doesn't favour those who turn down sex when it's available, so chances are if you find someone you get along with well the physical side of things won't be too much of a problem. That depends. It also doesn't favor people who take the first thing they can get and get stuck with a much worse option than they could have got. So what tends to happen is people start with very high standards and slowly it whittles down to their own level. Which is why most couples are looksmatched. People w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/24 12:51 PM
1	Men who are decidedly not attracted to overweight women, how do you feel about women of healthy weight but large frames? Those massive "records" are total nonsense. The super skinny gaunt anorexic looking women were supposedly all the rage in the 1990s when I went to school. Except they weren't. No guy I knew walked around going "I sure wish we had more women dying of starvation in our school". We liked fit women then. And we like them now. Nothing has really changed. Fashion and what you see on TV changed a lot. What guys actually like doesn't change nearly as much.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 05:26 PM
9	Are married men happier and more successful because they’re married or are they married because they’re happier and more successful I mean kind of.... You also have to raise kids. Which is incredibly time consuming. But also far more rewarding than the dating market or a career.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 01:07 PM
1	Men who are decidedly not attracted to overweight women, how do you feel about women of healthy weight but large frames? I dont think so at all. Fashion changes. Physical appearance that is appealing really doesn't. No amount of fat girl posters will make guys not want fit women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 01:00 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? So a system that works for 95% of people is being trashed because we're too worried about the unlucky 5%. Is that really a good idea? Think about the other side of it. All the women who waste their fertile years doing bullshit at the office. All the couples that never form. All the children that are never born. All the happy homes that never come to fruition. All the men who never achieve shit because they have no reason to achieve anything (with no family). Not to mention the aforementioned fer…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 01:10 AM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? I notice that view is predicated on a piece of shit husband or some other malady. Is it really smart to structure our society around the worst possible out comes? If I structured my life around the worst possible outcome I would never get in a car. Heck I might never get out of the house. Some risks are worth taking. Wouldn't it be better if we just mitigated the risks better....	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 01:05 AM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? That's how nature works. Our purpose is to survive and reproduce. Then raise our kids to reproductive age. On and on. Everything else is just filler we add. There is no greater purpose. Even if there is we're probably not intelligent enough to perceive it. If you don't reproduce. Your DNA dies with you. If you reproduce your DNA can continue existing for millions of years. That's it. That's all life is about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 01:03 AM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? Yes that's the cultural problem. That we've told women that career is more important than building a loving home. That somehow clocking in, in some miserable office shithole is more valuable than children that adore you and a husband who is your partner and will die for you and the kids. Yeah definitely would rather deal with a shitty boss who could give a rats ass about you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 12:57 AM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? Ok that's one guys opinion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/24 12:56 AM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? Your prime years for childrearing are 20-30. Your prime years for career are 30-60. And you could easily pop out 2-3 kids before 25. Like we used to back in the day. By 30 your youngest is 5.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 11:28 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? Yes but fertility and reproduction is a critical function of our society. Our society can survive without art. It won't survive very long without reproduction. The fertility crisis in the West is a serious problem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 11:19 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? It fulfils peoples need to have a "reason for existence". It's far more effective at it than careers or hobbies and even friendships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 11:18 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? It wouldn't be an economic catastrophe. But yes I can see it being political suicide for anyone of any party to even remotely suggest such a thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 11:17 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? So.... I keep thinking this would all get fixed if we taught AI to read our brain waves and then used that information as some futuristic Tinder. Where it tells us who we would have a good relationship with. You could even match people genetically so they produce the highest quality children etc. That way you minimize this whole "we got married and had kids and it didn't work out". Because you're matching people based on traits that are most likely to keep them together. Which obviously means th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 08:46 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? Ok so your views can be summed up by 1) Having an education make me a more complete person. And gave me financial flexibility 2) You believe that educational attainment helps people form better bonds and helps you form bonds with better people at the same time. I believe there is some merit in both of those statements. Thus the framing should be "How do we get young women enough financial freedom and flexibility without herding them into offices. And how do we ensure they have access to high qua…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 08:33 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? I believe that is why we have things like child support and alimony. If that system is not working properly. It's probably time to fix that. Instead of herding women into careers and destroying families (that never form) in the process.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 08:31 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? The way men and women select is different Men: Primarily physical appearance Women: Combination of physical appearance, money and status. Because of this. A man benefits from focusing on career 18-25. He still needs to get busy making a family once in the 25-30 range much like a woman. But the pool of partners he has once he gets into the career improves a lot. The opposite happens for a woman. She becomes pickier because she doesn't want to date anyone below her on the socieconomic ladder. And …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 08:06 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? This is literally how dating and relationships work for everyone. But didn't you just say they wouldn't date you if you worked at Wendy's? It’s hilarious how untrue this is. I’m sorry you can’t relate, but some men value competence and intelligence and accomplishments in their partners. And I never would have met them if I had been working at Wendy’s. That last part is true. That's why we used to send women to college to get MRS degrees. Because certainly having access to quality men is super im…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 07:40 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? So, yeah, getting an education and a relatively high status job has absolutely benefited me in the “sexual market place.” I hate to be the one to tell you this. But those same guys would have likely dated you if you worked at Wendy's. But they sure as hell would never tell you that. And I don't blame them. Before I got to the point where I could be honest with my wife. I used to tell her all the same kind of shit. "I liked the fact that you <add made up reason>". As the reason for dating her. Wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 07:22 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? No no. The point I'm making is that a job is a means to an end. It's not something we do for enjoyment. You have kids and a family for enjoyment. If you don't enjoy it then don't do it. A life with a family is a hell of a lot better than a life alone. But not for everyone. If it's not for you no problem. Outliers exist and it's perfectly fine. But the general population needs that family to feel a reason to live.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 07:19 PM
2	What does a top 20% man look like? Depends....... You travel to the right side of the planet and most of your average looking non-obese Western men would be top 20% men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 07:08 PM
5	What does a top 20% man look like? Game is just social skills man. Most of us develop things like charisma, persuasion, ability to reason and argue from just interacting with other people. People with "a lot of game" are either just naturally inclined to be charismatic or they have other attractive features such as pleasant physical appearance or loads of money/status(for men).	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 07:07 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? I disagree. Having a family and children is critical to the mental health of both men and women. But we have biological differences. And we have different ways of choosing partners. A man who focuses on career. Has a better pool of partners to pick from if he's not married already. He is capable of providing for his family. A woman who focuses on career. Has a WORSE POOL of partners to pick from. Because in most cases she won't date someone who makes less than her thinning the herd. On top of th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 06:57 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? The trick is. Men benefit from making more $ in the sexual marketplace. They can snag a better partner this way. Women are the opposite. The more educated they are the higher their standards. The smaller the pool of potential partners. And those potential partners could give a shit if a woman is making $ or not. On top of that men have much longer fertility windows. At the end of the day neither males or females derive their purpose from their jobs. But men benefit a lot more from focusing on th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 06:22 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? What % of people are really voluntary slaves to their jobs? Like honestly what do you think. Take 10,000,000 random people. Offer them this "I will give you the exact same salary you make as well as any advancement you were going to get. For doing nothing. And you can go to work or not. It doesn't matter. You still end up with the same exact amount of $" How many of them would still go to work? 1000? 10,000? I imagine the number is very small. We can set up financial structures that make motherh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 06:19 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? I get it. I get it. Problem is living on low income usually means living in terrible shithole neighborhoods. If you were surrounded by normal people who don't stay up all night partying and don't start shit left and right. It might not be so bad. You don't need a middle class style single family home to be comfortable. But if you want to live away from the riff raff you do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 06:14 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? Interesting. "Comfortably" seems to be the problem. If people were happy to live in tiny apartments with very little in terms of consumer goods. We could very well do it. But people want lavish lifestyles.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 06:06 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? Honestly? I'd devise an incentive system to change her mind. Indirectly. Trying to do it directly would be a waste of time. Though honestly. That's like asking "what will you do if she gets hit by a car". I prefer the option where a bad thing doesn't happen. I spend enough time worrying about bad shit happening as it is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 06:03 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? Think of it this way. I get paid $80,000 a year. If someone just gave me $80,000 a year and said "you can come work here if you want, or you can do whatever you want". Guess which one I'm choosing? There would be no reason for me to EVER be there. And nothing I would do in my past time is likely to produce anything resembling value to society.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 06:00 PM
5	Men who are decidedly not attracted to overweight women, how do you feel about women of healthy weight but large frames? Sure absolutely. People should be realistic about the situation. Instead of telling each other feel good fairy tales.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 05:57 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? I think it's true for both males and females. And it's not even "your worth". It's the most important thing you can do for yourself. The real kicker is males benefit from making more $ in sexual selection and females really do not. Because of the way we are attracted to each other. So it's a double whammy. You're telling women that career is more important and it's not. And you're setting them on a path where family life and having a family becomes more difficult. Totally fucking them and entire…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 05:56 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? "A lot" a small % of 330,000,000 can indeed be a lot. But they are still outliers. The vast majority of the human population as a whole exist for their families. They don't exist to clock in and clock out. Also another thing. People say "I love my job". That doesn't mean they would do it for free if someone gave them that same salary for doing nothing. It may simply mean "I sure am glad I'm not flipping burgers for peanuts instead". As in relative to many other shit jobs it's pretty good. I say …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 05:48 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? Yes maybe some do. But those people are outliers. Most people hate their fucking jobs. Also you mentioned "mom". So she had kids after all? To most people a job is just a means to an end. A way to make $. Yes some lucky people enjoy their job. But the vast majority of the population just does it because they have to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 05:42 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? The ideal job for me would be for me to do nothing and get paid for it. Even things like video games and sports become grindy as fuck once you become a professional. People wouldn't have to pay you to do it if it was something you enjoyed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 05:41 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? Most do. Doesn't make sense to structure our society around outliers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 05:39 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? He is 100% right. Family and children is what gives people the energy to exist. Not their god damn shitless job. I don't wake up at 6am in the morning going "OMG I can't wait to go be in that fucking piece of shit office for 8 hours. Why can't it be 10 hours. Why do I have to leave at 5pm." This is the LIE that he is talking about. Now how to structure society in order to facilitate more happy homes. That is a much harder question to answer. But the least we can do is frame it properly. Neither …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 05:20 PM
–	““I think it is you, the women who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” - what are your thoughts on the Harrison Butker commencement speech scandal? On the flip side. We can be honest and say that a career is just the means to an end. Family is what makes you happy. Having children and having a loving husband is worth infinitely more than some shithole where you do TPS reports all day. Yes it's sad that some couples don't work out and women end up in a bad spot because of it. But that doesn't suddenly turn the office hellhole into a better place than a loving home.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 05:13 PM
0	PPD rule on ignoring look : Same as discussing politics without mentioning socio economic status Like I said to another poster. I've had sex with prostitutes. I've had sex with strippers. I've had one night stands. And I've been in half a dozen long term relationships. (I'm 41 btw. So not Chad or anything just lots of time in the game). In my experience short term sex can be fun. But it's not as emotionally fulfilling as an actual relationship. But you're not going to walk away from having sex with a really hot chick feeling "used". If she was upfront about her intentions. You would just se…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/24 04:38 PM