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| 2 | Why Men and Trans People (Particularly women) Should be Working TogetherI'm trying to be a sociology professor Fr? I'm trying to become a psychology professor. Currently on my masters degree and just finished my statistics module. I'm thinking that this topic would make a good thesis, though maybe I should go woth something safer for my degree. Maybe we should collaborate at some point. You put it more succinctly than I did, but you're on point. Trans women and men are distinct in a lot of ways. HRT does change a lot of our physiology even though a lot of people don… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/11/24 08:32 AM |
| 1 | Why Men and Trans People (Particularly women) Should be Working Togetherproximity to masculinity is a major component of what sparks transphobia. there are other elements involved, the transness itself can make people 'uncomfortable' to put it mildly. but its the proximity to masculinity that places transfolks as a 'danger' to people. This. I wonder if trans women don't want to see it because we see ourselves as women and so label it as just misogyny, whereas the transphobia is based on trans women being degenerare men. I would hope we could bridge the gap, because … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/24 12:09 PM |
| 8 | Why Men and Trans People (Particularly women) Should be Working TogetherI agree, the hostility is unnecessary. Me and my friend had this exact same conversation before I came out. I'm not sure if this hostility is a new thing, or if it just happens in marginalised groups anyway. I noticed it myself 12 years ago. Maybe the internet has made it more transparent, that probably isn't helping. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/24 08:28 PM |
| 6 | Why Men and Trans People (Particularly women) Should be Working TogetherI get why you think this, but sometimes hostility is all we have. If someone is arguing for removing our access to healthcare or discriminating against us using bathrooms, which we have done for decades then that's just prejudice. Its not based in fact but an aversion to us. I didn't choose to be trans. In fact, I struggled against it for over a decade when I first realised. Its hard not to turn hostile when there seems to be so much hostility against us at the moment. I'm not saying this is wha… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/24 07:33 PM |
| 0 | Why Men and Trans People (Particularly women) Should be Working TogetherI never made the argument that lack of support is prejudice, I made the argument that the prejudice used against trans people is the same prejudice that is used against men. I'll think you'll find that the concept of most trans people being gender abolitionists - we literally just want to live our lives as our gender identity - is a conspiracy theory, which is detailed in the paper above as being a key factor as spreading prejudice against groups. We didn't let anything happen, the most extreme … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/24 07:16 PM |
| 6 | Why Men and Trans People (Particularly women) Should be Working TogetherI don't like it either, but there's a reason trans women go into those spaces. It is because they are welcoming and generally safe. Trans people have to deal with prejudice against them all the time. Its draining and exhausting and it is hard to find elsewhere. I feel so isolated and alone and the only people who really get it are the LGBT community. It sucks that there is also misandry, but are trans people just expected to suffer in silence. Consider incels, a lot of people write them off as e… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/24 06:56 PM |
| 6 | Why Men and Trans People (Particularly women) Should be Working Togetherhttps://bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bjop.12385 Intergroup prejudice spreads prejudice across groups. If trans women are dangerous because they are male, then that prejudice will likely be linked to males as well. Vice versa, prejudice toward males will be linked to trans women. The prejudic is the problem. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/24 06:34 PM |
| 3 | Why Men and Trans People (Particularly women) Should be Working TogetherBecause it will help breakdown sterotypes against men in general. If misandry is acceptable against one group, then it is acceptable against all. Bridging that gap strengthens everyone's positions. Challenging gender stereotypes would go a long way to helping both groups. If misandry can be used against trans people, it can be used against you. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/24 06:14 PM |
| 2 | Why Men and Trans People (Particularly women) Should be Working TogetherYou might have to explain, in what sense? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/24 06:09 PM |
| 8 | Why Men and Trans People (Particularly women) Should be Working TogetherI'm not sure branding is the problem. They shouldn't have attacked you. The problem is that being trans is really difficult. It isn't a big deal to most people but trans issues are a matter of life and death for trans people. I get why trans people go a bit loopy from it all to be honest. You get the sexism from both side on top of the transphobia, which has been artificially driven. It is easy to use the worst of a group to paint them all as villains. Just look at what is being done to men, it … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/24 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Why Men and Trans People (Particularly women) Should be Working TogetherThis is a perspective that often goes uncosidered. I guess because I am in boy mode most of the time (still early days for transitioning, haven't even been om HRT for a month), I still get the misandry in daily life but you're right. You do see it in the mainstream sometimes, with the argument of trans men using women's bathrooms as a result of transphobia, which still has that inherent argument of men being seen as a defacto threat. I guess being trans means being subjected to both forms of sex… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/24 06:00 PM |
| 11 | Why Men and Trans People (Particularly women) Should be Working TogetherYeah, I feel you. I get uncomfortable around bigotry of any sort. I nearly fell into that trap myself when I first came out but I didn't because I know it is just the same toxicity. Prejudice doesn't really change and often people who are prejudiced against will try and deflect. In terms of trans women, I think it is because the place we are more likely to find acceptance is feminist spaces and also we so desperately want to be seen as women, so it becomes easier to just assimilate feminist rhet… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/24 05:45 PM |
| 10 | Why Men and Trans People (Particularly women) Should be Working TogetherIf that's how you feel, I don't particularly care to argue. It is the same issue, whether you want it to be or not. Trans women are perceived as predators because they are seen as men. You don't see trans men getting the same treatmemt because although it is exacerbated by transphobia, the core is still misandry. Not that it really matters anymore... The rise of the populist right isn't going to do anyone any favours. Trans women and men probably aren't going to be able to come together. The mis… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/24 05:29 PM |
| 12 | Why Men and Trans People (Particularly women) Should be Working TogetherIt is a good point. It is still a depressing result either way, and maybe if the Dems could reach out to young men in a way that goes beyond just saying how they can help women, we might have seen higher turn out. I am just guessing though, I still can't wrap my head around how many people voted for him... | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/24 05:06 PM |
| 2 | Refuting "by other men"Thanks for this, it is appreciated. I'll grant endometriosis is horrifically under diagnosed. I had a friend who has it, she had to fight to get it diagnosed even though it was already diagnosed before. A new doctor refused to acknowledge it. These dismissive attitudes aren't necessarily just for this condition. In terms of pain, I'm not sure this is just against women. I remember a study a while ago that everyone used to say demonstrated how people take women's pain less seriously, but even the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/05/24 03:34 PM |
| 7 | Refuting "by other men"From my understanding of this, your point would be the fact that it is measured by burden is the variable they are using to mislead the stats. Whereas, it might be that other variables... Such as deadly diseases affect men more. For example, the gap in funding between breast cancer and prostate cancer (if memory serves). So, by picking this one variable to measure these statistics by, it creates misleading stats. However, if this is what OP was referring to, I still think looking at funding in t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/05/24 10:22 AM |
| 12 | Refuting "by other men"Now, I'm not saying that women's grievances with the healthcare sector don't matter or that they don't exist, they do. And these grievances deserve to be taken seriously. In what capacity? Not saying you're wrong, but I've seen studies debunked before and I am sceptical about claims such as these. You've said grievances, which ones? Are these grievances unique to womem? Are there any unique grievances for men? Can you point me to research or provide some? Not trying to be difficult. I agree with… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/05/24 05:22 AM |
| 31 | John Cadogan video “the war on men is official disinformation”I can tell you that the three top biases affecting the mainstream media are not the biases you think they are. It’s the predisposition to laziness, sensationalism, and conflict. Well colour me confused, because I have been syaing that this is the exact issue with mainstream media for a long-time. A lot of it is based around the clicks. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/05/24 01:51 PM |
| 1 | Is Male Loneliness Self-Inflicted?Not OP but I don't know if they were dismissing the issue outright. The loneliness of males does not only apply to relationships. A lot of men are isolated in general. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/04/24 05:42 PM |
| 1 | New Data Show Massive, Wider-than-Expected Global Gender Gap (Article)Interesting. I wanted to touch on your first point: Some of the points made in the article are accurate, there are countries where women are seriously disadvantaged in many ways I know that in some countries women and girls are still blocked from having an education, which is wrong in case it needed to be said. I'm willing to believe that the article is accurate in some instances, they just didn't make it clear where these distinctions are. Could you provide examples of these disadvantages? I'm … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/04/24 06:11 AM |
| 11 | New Data Show Massive, Wider-than-Expected Global Gender Gap (Article)This is the main issue with modern perspectives on gender discourse. I can't keep up with all the falsehoods that are spouted about, and it takes concerted effort to even try. All to make men look bad, even though counter evidence exists. This evidence is never reported to the same extent however. It reminds me of a quote, I can't be bothered to look up by who (and I am paraphrasing a bit lot) but it goes something like this: A lie travels around the world three times over before the truth has e… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/03/24 05:12 PM |
| 2 | Hello- this is an issue to discuss female issues without resorting to any misandry- we’re humans and our job is to work together :)Yeah... You're probably right. I'm just indulging my idealism. I would love to see a group fighting for equality of everyone, with a collaborative and positive atmosphere that doesn't blame a group of people but looks for solutions. I agree. It is a pipe dream. Doesn't stop me hoping for it, though. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/03/24 02:41 PM |
| 6 | Hello- this is an issue to discuss female issues without resorting to any misandry- we’re humans and our job is to work together :)I was thinking a more collaborative atmosphere. This is all purely hypothetical, but a place where the aim is to find common ground more than debate each other. I find FeMRA debates to be more antagonistic than what I would hope. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/03/24 07:03 PM |
| 29 | Hello- this is an issue to discuss female issues without resorting to any misandry- we’re humans and our job is to work together :)Maybe we could start a left-wing female and male (or genuinely egalitarian) advocates group. Basic principals would be (add more later, maybe): • Advocacy for equality between the sexes for the net benefit of all • Recognising that victims of abuse deserve respect and love, regardless of the gender of the victim or perpetrator • Recognising false allegations as a form of abuse that can impact individuals of any gender • Respect for those who adhere to gender roles and respect to those who don't … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/03/24 08:17 AM |
| 1 | Serious Theory: the Right has always had its own "feminism", and this may have contributed to a serious problem within the movementI would disagree, if but for the fact that if you ignore potential biological elements and you are grossly misinformed for when it comes to the social ones. I think where we diverge is in the chronology of it all. I would say that the issue isn't in the fact that a hyperfixation on biological origins of behaviour is wrong (it is by the way), but that these boys who are falling into the toxic ideologies as a result of being marginalised and denigrated. The hopelessness comes before the ideology, … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/02/24 09:23 AM |
| 3 | Serious Theory: the Right has always had its own "feminism", and this may have contributed to a serious problem within the movementI would mainly agree, and I don't believe in judging all feminists by, shall we say, the institutions. There are some feminists where I actually agree with a lot of what they say. Including some of my closest friends. I do have issues with the overall ideology and think it is fundamentally flawed. I would even go into saying these flaws are in other avenues of critical social justice, and the biases are evident within the underlying ideology. The oppressed/oppressor dynamic based on the myopic v… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/02/24 02:53 PM |
| 7 | Serious Theory: the Right has always had its own "feminism", and this may have contributed to a serious problem within the movementwhich often causes people to blackpill as there is no "hope" left. I agree, but this is such an extreme reaction. Just because there are biological or evolutionary reasons doesn't mean they're insurmountable. We are social creatures, and that can always have an impact. We just can't influence people in every way. But with the right knowledge, you can circumvent biological underpinnings. For example, there is a biological component to temperament, and this is a potential indicator of someone maki… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/02/24 02:36 PM |
| 2 | You don't need to show or concede any sympathy to either Feminism or 'Women's issues' in generalNot got much to add, this is nearly spot on. I think it’s less that she doesn’t trust her husband, and more that she doesn’t trust the nebulous idea of a partner. It sounds weird to say that because those sound like the same thing kinda I don't think they're the same thing and I think I get you choom. The husband mentioned her finding a partner she could trust, but is this an aspect of her character pertaining only to her husband or would she have reacted this way to any partner she had. If the … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/02/24 03:33 PM |
| 25 | You don't need to show or concede any sympathy to either Feminism or 'Women's issues' in generalI think this is the common sense answer. To divorce someone over this may be an overreaction. But to call someone a misogynist or abuser over that decision is also an overreaction. Too many people are willing to give up on relationships at the first sign of trouble, but then we don't know the whole situation. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/02/24 08:36 PM |
| 1 | “Gage claimed the witch trials were a way that religion was used to oppress women. This idea sounds plausible, until you realise that a sizable proportion of victims of the witch trials were men.” Why do male victims of violence seem to disappear like magic? — The Centre for Male PsychologyI have been trying to find the source on this. Do you have a link? | /r/MensRights | 23/12/23 08:41 AM |
| 4 | The right-wing is harmful to men’s rights.Hadn't heard of this book. Looks like I got my next read. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/09/23 12:30 PM |
| 1 | Is Misandry Real?Thanks for the link. It does seem like they're talking about the concept of widespread and systemic misogyny (t'was a difficult read). Interesting. I would imagine it does exist to a systemic metric, just maybe not to the extent that is always touted. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/09/23 09:59 PM |
| 7 | “We need to protect women”Those damn red pillars! There's all manor of colours they could be and people got to paint them red! It is just completely unnecessary. I, for one, will not have my support structures painted red. I would much prefer green pillars!! We should start a society against the red pillars of the world! Joking aside, I do agree with your sentiment. I just couldn't resist! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/09/23 07:43 AM |
| 10 | Is Misandry Real?Could it be that they're talking about systemic misogyny? That there is no indication that misogyny exists on a systemic level rather than stating misogyny doesn't exist at all. That would make more sense, as I agree that misogyny definitely exists. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/09/23 07:27 AM |
| 3 | How I view the cycle of talking about men's issues from the left and why men are flocking to the right wingI'm not saying my examples aren't cherry-picked. I'm just saying that people on the right are much more likely to address men's issues in general. People on the left tend to either not acknowledge them or blame men. Like with male on male violence, for example. I've seen plenty of backlash on Even moderate takes about this. Like the video done by Shoe On Head. I want to make it clear that I don't actually think the right helps men. But who are they more likely to listen to. The people putting th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/09/23 05:40 PM |
| 3 | How I view the cycle of talking about men's issues from the left and why men are flocking to the right wingLike I said, they actually appear to be listening. Like Trump saying: 'This is a scary time for young boys.' Or at the very least, telling men that they matter and that they can succeed (even if it is hiding the old fallacy of pulling yourself up by the bootstraps, they are still presenting themselves as on men's side). All your examples are very specific issues, and I don't even disagree. These aren't really the issues that are harming a lot of men. These are very niche circumstances. I would w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/09/23 03:28 PM |
| 4 | How I view the cycle of talking about men's issues from the left and why men are flocking to the right wingThey act like they're listening. Yes, the solutions they offer are often sub-optimal and regressive but they will at least offer those solutions in the first place. Delusional perhaps, but the right doesn't ignore or demean male issues. This is enough to give them an edge over the left. Whether it is true or not, it appears to be so. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/09/23 02:51 PM |
| 1 | Request: examples of 'controlling the narrative'Have you got a source for this study? I'm not really sure what you mean, I thought that stats showed women tried to kill themselves more but with least lethal measures? I'm not sure how this argument would match up. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/08/23 08:20 AM |
| 1 | What would Violence Against Men and Boys (VAMB) look like?And history! | /r/MensRights | 20/08/23 06:16 AM |
| 6 | Breaking PointThis. | /r/MensRights | 04/07/23 03:40 PM |
| 13 | Is anyone here a victim of false accusations? Or knows someone who is?Upvoted because you are only sharing your opinion and have actually contributed to the conversation. I'm not saying we're great at dealing with sexual abuse. Far from it, and sometimes people find it easier to draw back the curtains than face the harsh reality. There are certainly incidents where it is sweeped under the rug and women who claim to be sexually abused are treated with unnecessary hostility. This is true. Having said that, it doesn't take away from the growing research that suggests… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/04/23 09:09 AM |
| 54 | I Am A Woman Trying to UnderstandThe Empathy Gap by William Collins is pretty good. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/23 09:40 AM |
| 5 | Online Men's Groups Science Study: Come Test your Scientific KnowledgeI got 75% to 85%, can't wait to see the results to see where I got it wrong! I thought the test was fair and balanced. I do agree with another redditor though, it would be easy to cheat. Edit: Although, having said that... Some questions require a certain level of logical thinking (are more applied essentially) and so attempting to look up the answers would prove difficult. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/11/22 02:58 PM |
| 3 | There is no ‘war on men’ – we now know feminism is good for boys (Article)For some reason women have a hard time recognizing this and struggle with character judgements. I'd be careful with statements like this. A lot of men subscribe to feminist theory as a belief structure as well nor do a lot f women consider themselves feminist. I don't think it is just women who have bad character judgements. I do agree more women support feminism but I would wager that is because it claims to be for women. Now that I've clarified, I do agree with your basic premise that it is an… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/11/22 08:23 AM |
| 7 | There is no ‘war on men’ – we now know feminism is good for boys (Article)Got to say that he touched on a lot of things I agree with and even mentioned a couple of the areas I pointed out. The only real aspect I disagree with is the first four tweets, every other point is spot on. Although, even from the first few paragraphs I do still agree that the rights of boys and girls are interlinked. I just don't gel with the idea that all issues surrounding gender are because of socialisation. More if we push for equality by saying one group needs help (women) and the other g… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/11/22 08:01 AM |
| 22 | There is no ‘war on men’ – we now know feminism is good for boys (Article)Done! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/11/22 04:29 PM |
| 1 | We Don't Need Allies - We Need Friends! Why superficial systems of hierarchy would be harmful to male advocacy.That's what I feel this is. When language has been changed to push an agenda, it shifts the narrative and can change how people think. To point that out is still semantics, but us important. The word ally was only put into use with theories such as Patriarchal Theory. Sort of like the theory that women can't be sexist toward men, so sexism is defined by some feminist groups so as to exclude male victims. Calling that out is important. That's what I feel this is. I've never personally heard anyon… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/11/22 11:29 AM |
| 2 | We Don't Need Allies - We Need Friends! Why superficial systems of hierarchy would be harmful to male advocacy.I guess I consider this some semantics and making a mountain out of a molehill. Of course it's semantics, my question is... Why does that automatically make it unimportant? I agree with the majority of your next paragraph but for: All the things we regularly wax about, people can just stop arguing about those things. Being an "ally" in that regard is perfectly fine to me. This is odd to me, you're taking a meaning of ally how it isn't usually applied. Especially when talking in terms of identity… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/11/22 04:40 AM |
| 14 | A Letter to an AbuserNah, I don't think feminism was ever necessary if I'm honest. The right to vote wasn't won by feminists but by suffragists and suffragettes. What improvements to women has feminism bought that isn't better explained by technology or medicine. All feminism has bought to the table is bitterness and resentment based around the theory of Patriarchy. The real issues that Feminism brings attention to, people were already aware of. I fail to see when feminism was ever necessary. Feminism always rode on… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/11/22 04:19 AM |
| 3 | We Don't Need Allies - We Need Friends! Why superficial systems of hierarchy would be harmful to male advocacy.Ah, fair point. I agree. As far as I am aware, there's no (nor should there be) a checklist for being a good male advocate. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/11/22 02:38 PM |
| 14 | We Don't Need Allies - We Need Friends! Why superficial systems of hierarchy would be harmful to male advocacy.It doesn't. That's why I made this post. There should be no superficial hierarchies, a movement for equality should not create a hierarchy around immutable characteristics. This is why I dislike the term ally when it is used in groups that are supposedly for equality. I hear it used in feminist circles a fair amount and wanted to pushback against the use of that terminology here. It's unnecessary and creates an automatic division. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/11/22 02:13 PM |
| 5 | We Don't Need Allies - We Need Friends! Why superficial systems of hierarchy would be harmful to male advocacy.Hopefully, you receive that here. Just know that I am on your side and want what's best for you. Rooting for you my man! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/11/22 01:33 PM |
| 5 | Requesting questions for Warren Farrell interviewQuestion 4) If we are unable to get fathers back into homes, what is the next best thing we can do to alleviate the boy crisis? Edit: Sorry, I should have done these all together, but I kept thinking of more after commenting lol | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/11/22 12:02 PM |
| 6 | Requesting questions for Warren Farrell interviewQuestion 3) How important is intimacy/sex for male (and female) mental health? Should we be worried that less and less people are having sex? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/11/22 12:01 PM |
| 6 | Requesting questions for Warren Farrell interviewQuestion 2) Is modern day feminist messaging doing more to encourage Incel culture rather than combat it? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/11/22 12:00 PM |
| 10 | Requesting questions for Warren Farrell interviewQuestion 1) Toxic masculinity is the idea that men are socialised into toxic traits for fear of being considered less of a man. This has not been my experience, we don't fear sharing our emotions because we are afraid of being seen as less manly, we are afraid of sharing our emotions because we know from experience that they are used against and it can make our situation worse. It's not that people can't understand, it is that they don't want to. Sharing our emotions hinders us. Do you think tha… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/11/22 11:58 AM |
| 3 | How to be a men's ally?Some have already pointed this out, but I just want to say, don't use the word ally. No one is asking you to do more than you're comfortable with either. The discourse around men's issues at the moment is very volatile and sanctimonious. Just express your opinions on it when you feel safe/the need to do so. If you want to be more hands on with it, you could start a channel or even help with some charities. The extent of your involvement is completely up to you. I'm not one of these people who th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/11/22 11:10 AM |
| 5 | Equality without androgyny - There are some differences between men and women, and that's OKI do think that the differences are real, but the way we perceive the differences are often wrong. And you're theory matches with what I've seen. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/11/22 03:32 PM |
| 8 | What are some good male-positive people/creators/forums/whatever that you can find online?I'm not a big fan of r/MensRights it is why I am glad I found this sub. That sub has fallen down the rabbit hole a bit. A lot of comments I see there tend to blame women, and I am not for collectivist blame like that (based off of immutable characteristics at least). It's definitely not positive like OP wants. It's very much an echo chamber of grievance at this point. I get it, but it seems too focused on proving feminism wrong. I have my compunction with feminism but when a sub conflates women … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/10/22 05:33 PM |
| 6 | "ENOUGH" - UK Gov pulls a Gillette (yes, *another* one)I agree with you that men are physically stronger, and that is reflected in statistics. What I don't get is what your idea of dealing with it appropriately would be. It's not like men can help being physically stronger and we should still be encouraging everyone to be respectful. I just don't understand what this changes or should change about how we approach DA in general. I direct you to the 1in6 website. The fact that men are physically stronger is usually utilised as a means to diminish and … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/10/22 07:43 AM |
| 2 | In this video I discuss ten important issues facing young men that feminism doesn't care about.Anyway, I'm subscribed now. So I'll await future videos! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/10/22 10:18 PM |
| 3 | In this video I discuss ten important issues facing young men that feminism doesn't care about.Agreed on abortion, I don't want to tale the choice away from women. I just want to give more options for men. I think abortion should be completely legal, just not encouraged and we should focus on free and accessible contraceptives. Thankfully, we are quite good for that in the UK. I identified as a feminist in my uni days. Like you I always had that niggling disagreement at the back of my mind. The thing is, my values haven't changed, just my framing of the issues (which I think is more impor… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/10/22 10:13 PM |
| 2 | In this video I discuss ten important issues facing young men that feminism doesn't care about.Hey, I just watched your video and then some. Including your discussion with Sunrise With Salma. I've got to say that your positions are quite inline with my own. Here's a video that I think you will find interesting on abortion. I find Ann Furedi's arguments on being pro-choice very compelling. I still consider myself left-wing, but more liberal than leftist (if that makes sense). I also don't consider myself a MRA as such although I do advocate for some MRA positions. Great stuff!! My question… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/10/22 03:07 PM |
| 3 | In this video I discuss ten important issues facing young men that feminism doesn't care about.Yes. So many people have called me anti-womem because I disagree with the ideology behind feminism, but I genuinely think feminism is bad for women as well. I agree with a lot of feminist values, including stripping down gender roles and being pro-choice. I also agree with tackling discrimination and not judging someone based on sex. It just so happens that I also think that feminism is too narrow in its theory and too biased to actually resolve the issues it wishes to address. It perpetuates ha… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/10/22 07:42 PM |
| 12 | Sexual Harrasment of Men and BoysOP posted a link above that bypasses the paywall. Here: https://t.co/bp4u5RJyPl Seems quite robust from a brief perusal. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/10/22 02:37 PM |
| 6 | Sexual Harrasment of Men and BoysThank you! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/10/22 01:56 PM |
| 3 | Sexual Harrasment of Men and BoysI wish the actual paper itself wasn't behind a paywall. Would be interesting to read more. It is worth being aware of nonetheless. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/10/22 01:44 PM |
| 5 | Why Don't Men Fix Their Own Issues? Why do they Expect Women to do It?How do you mean the experiences of trans people? Being a man is different to the concept of masculinity. I'm not sure the experiences of trans people necessitates a defined 'masculinity'. What it means to be a man varies from person to person. I am not convinced that there is a way to define it explicitly. So maybe the answer is not to determine what is positive or negative masculinity, as these are still unreasonable gendered expectations but to treat the individual and determine their needs. R… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/10/22 12:40 PM |
| 14 | Why Don't Men Fix Their Own Issues? Why do they Expect Women to do It?I mainly agree. Class is the biggest factor, but also environments that people grow up in, previous abuse etc. So I wouldn't say Class is the only thing that matters, but is definitely one of the most important determiners of adverse situations and societal unrest. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/10/22 11:25 AM |
| 19 | Why Don't Men Fix Their Own Issues? Why do they Expect Women to do It?We definitely do focus way too much on feminism. It unfortunately needs to be part of the conversation, but we aren't getting anywhere. We seem to be stuck butting heads with feminism. There has to be a better way. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/10/22 11:12 AM |
| 6 | The European radicalization awareness network recently released an article on how to tackle the incel issue. And it's surprisingly good.Well... that is a pleasant surprise. They're actually treating through a lense of compassion. With any extremist mindset, prevention should be the goal. Its good of the EU to realise that these sort of extreme ideologies don't grow in a vacuum. I find it interesting that they even note that incels feel that the identity has been thrust upon them. These individuals are coming from a place of pain and we would do well to remember that. This is the correct approach. At least for a starting line. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/10/22 08:08 AM |
| 2 | “Fragile masculinity” is an example of the most cruel feminist strategy - exploiting insecurityNo. Long answer to your question... If we're using my definition, then the peer pressure would have to directly influence the gendered based behaviour of someone in negative ways to take effect. The fact that the peer pressure exists is not enough to measure toxic masculinity (which is where a lot of people go wrong). For instance take domestic abuse. Modern Feminist would argue that it is a result of toxic masculinity, which reinforces a Patriarchal system. Men are socialised feel entitled to w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/10/22 08:53 AM |
| 1 | “Fragile masculinity” is an example of the most cruel feminist strategy - exploiting insecurityWell, definitely traditional masculinity. In terms of toxic masculinity, potentially, I'm sure some people would be adamant that it is and in some instances it is. It all comes down to if the individual represses their emotions because they have felt peer pressured into it via the notion of not being manly enough. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/10/22 06:19 AM |
| 10 | “Fragile masculinity” is an example of the most cruel feminist strategy - exploiting insecurityTbf, you could measure toxic masculinity if the definition was: The negative gendered expectations that men are pressured into being manly with that influence their behaviour to detrimental effects This does happen. The problem with it is that it is applied wholesale to any behaviour by mem deemed to be harmful or toxic. Other factors aren't given importance, even when they may be more prominent to that behaviour. What's more is that, as a phrase, it isn't nuanced enough. For example, men see th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/10/22 07:48 AM |
| 9 | “Fragile masculinity” is an example of the most cruel feminist strategy - exploiting insecurityIt's just effective propaganda tbh. Define the outgroup as both a detriment to society and grossly incompetent. This is how extreme ideologies always roll. The contradictions are necessary, they create a motte to retreat into. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/10/22 07:30 AM |
| 4 | “Fragile masculinity” is an example of the most cruel feminist strategy - exploiting insecurityPotentially, but this is skirting the border of using manipulative tactics back to them. I'm not sure if this is a good idea or morally appropriate. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/10/22 07:25 AM |
| 3 | Who perceives women's rights as threatening to men and boys? Explaining modern sexism among young men in Europemost people realize life is not a zero sum gender competition Life isn't a zero sum game and privileges for any group aren't wholesale. Not to mention that I actually do think sexist attitudes against women persist. The problem is that equality shouldn't be a zero sum game and yet modern feminist Patriarchy Theory has made it so. The way they approach it, due to a flawed perspective, makes it zero sum. I find it ironic that they have stated this when any attempt to help men specifically is met w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/10/22 07:26 AM |
| 30 | Is It Misogyny or Projected Misandry?That's the trap. Define sexism as upholding Patriarchy. Define feminism as fighting Patriarchy. Anyone who upholds Patriarchy is sexist against women so if anyone argues against feminist theory, they want to keep the status quo and oppress women. Therefore, a criticism of the ideas of feminism is just a criticism of women. The world is built purely on the oppression and subjugation of women and any argument to the contrary is considered as evidence of that oppression and subjugation. It is the p… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/10/22 05:40 AM |
| 1 | Boys and men experience more social isolation than girls and women, study findsIt is almost like... Almost like you can't win. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/10/22 08:26 AM |
| 29 | An Interesting tumblr conversation about ale undersexualization and how it affects the discussion around female oversexualizationIta ironic, because I thought this was the point of the original convo. They're saying that the general experiences of men and women differ when it comes to sex, that male and female negative experiences tend to differ. For females, the negative experience is the over sexualisation. For males, it's the fact that they aren't seen as inherently desirable and sexualisation only comes from active participation in society. For the typical man who is struggling, they are constantly searching for valid… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/09/22 07:55 AM |
| 8 | Is the opinion on feminism starting to change or is it just the algoritm?Personally, I don't think it is significant. The problem is a lot of leaders (both right and left wing) are toeing the feminist line (whether they realise it or not). If this doesn’t change and it continues to remain prominent in media, it doesn't matter the uptake in criticism. The perception will still be that it is the popular ideal and people will go along with it because we be social creatures like that. The critique of feminism is (currently) just noise in the ether. The funny thing is, if… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/09/22 09:38 PM |
| 4 | Discussion about Men on Bill MaherSo, what are you future predictions? What do you expect to happen next? Say the next year, or in 5 to ten years time? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/09/22 02:49 PM |
| 4 | "Liz Truss's cabinet is Britain's first without white man in top jobs". Admittedly it only covers 4 jobs so hard to say it's a definitive trend. I wonder did the Conservative party send out a press release/similar.Are you obtuse? Who said anything about the media? Its the media making a big deal about it, not Liz Truss. That's why they're bringing up the media, because they're the ones pushing the diversity line. I think it more likely that Truss picked them because they were loyal to her. Either you're so bad at comprehension or you're arguing in bad faith. Not here granted and it was weird for OP to bring it up but people have bought it up in similar posts and it doesn't necessarily track. OP definitely… | /r/MensRights | 08/09/22 09:53 PM |
| 2 | Wow! How do they justify wording it like this?Not that I disagree with you completely, but to play devils advocate here: Whenever you die do you have to clean up your own corpse? The argument here is that women don't commit suicide because they don't want their loved ones to find their body. It is basically an argument that men are less considerate. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/22 10:01 AM |
| 2 | Just Some Brief Musings on Expectant Gender RolesSorry this is so late, it is here: https://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/amp-amp0000494.pdf Figure 3 gives a breakdown of it. If that does work (cause I know PDFs can be funny), try typing into google: Gender Stereotypes Have Changed: A Cross-Temporal Meta-Analysis of U.S. Public Opinion Polls From 1946 to 2018 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/07/22 06:08 AM |
| 2 | Do we need to address the nature-nurture issue again?Had a long reply ready but it wiped ha. This won't be nearly as long. Okay, I’m not really sure why I’m answering to this considering we’re very closely aligned and you said you don’t want to argue around that for ages ahah. I didn't want to have the same old tired argument. Healthy discourse is always welcome, which I believe this is. I believe a key factor is how competitive and stamina demanding some sectors can be. In other words, it’s less a matter of being willing to do computations, and m… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/07/22 05:56 AM |
| 3 | Do we need to address the nature-nurture issue again?You are, of course, correct. I think people are just more aware of the biological determinism pitfalls. It generates a more visceral reaction. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/07/22 08:40 AM |
| 5 | Do we need to address the nature-nurture issue again?I just want to preface this by saying: Any points of yours that I haven't responded to from your comment, are points I agree with. I think I largely agree with you anyway. I am also absolutely convinced that this alone doesn’t explain the 95-5 men to women ratio on some engineering fields, or (and especially) the opposite for some « care » work fields. Agreed. I don't believe it is some conspiracy though. Some historically "masculine" fields (like vetinary sciences) are now composed of predomina… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/07/22 07:20 AM |
| 6 | Do we need to address the nature-nurture issue again?I'm not sure I agree that it is all reactionary. I don't think it has been largely resolved either, our understanding of human nature is still very limited. Different fields of science are still disagreeing about this. I do agree that people shouldn't use it to argue the value of something and I also agree that doesn't mean we shouldn't use it as an excuse to not try and fix an issue... Yet, I see few people wonder about « how does it work ? » or « what can we do about it ? ». In my opinion, tha… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/07/22 05:23 AM |
| 9 | Do we need to address the nature-nurture issue again?The issue with discussing this comes down to the fact that biological determinism has led to some pretty heinous ideas in the past. For the record, I agree with you. Saying their are biological influences on gender expression is not the same as saying they are absolute and (as always) individual differences do apply. I just wanted to point out that the reason people are so against this notion is that similar arguments have been used to justify discrimination. This is where the aversion to such a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/07/22 05:13 AM |
| 3 | Some common gender myths and their rebuttalsCounter-productive and a bit cruel. I get why some MRAs wouldn't care after constant ridicule and neglect. I still think it is wrong not to, women not having rights will only make it harder for men to obtain their's (the empathy gap exists afterall). Perhaps more importantly, why punish women in general for societal issues? This is the sort of tribal thinking that MRAs need to avoid. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/07/22 07:17 AM |
| 1 | Just Some Brief Musings on Expectant Gender RolesSure! Just give me some time to dig it out for ya! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/07/22 08:27 PM |
| 1 | USA: The family of Emmett Till demand arrest, - will the woman accused of pointing out the 14-year-old black teen to a Mississippi lynch mob now face justice 67 years on?Sanity. | /r/MensRights | 02/07/22 01:45 PM |
| 30 | Incompetent female attorney general refuses to resign.I don't think anyone would argue that most people are misandrists (at least I hope that's not what OP meant by it) just that it is a misandrist country because it has a misandrist government. | /r/MensRights | 02/07/22 01:44 PM |
| 1 | A website that claims to be about male advocacy but is transparently nothing but misandrist propagandaNot OP but it is a tough one. Obviously we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water when it comes to science. There are still robust fields/areas of study and some scholars do speak out against the critical activist "sciences"... But it's hard to ignore the fact that if this activist science is being propagated in universities, and there is a culture of fear suppressing dissent (as you alluded to) then that is still an issue. It means that the ideology is institutionalised, which makes m… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/06/22 09:55 PM |
| 8 | Anyone else realize that most women don't really respect progressive men?This is a point that isn't raised enough in my opinion. Maybe because it is not seen as left-wing, idk. Stereotypes are hard to break. That's not to say we shouldn't try but the best way to disrupt stereotypes is to demonstrate them to be untrue, rather than just telling people. A good way to do this, IMHO, is to have people work on a common goal. Through that human interaction, stereotypes are hard to hold onto. This is where your point of self-actualisation comes in. I want to make it clear th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/06/22 06:54 AM |
| 1 | Johnny Depp Wins On All Counts and 15 Million Dollarshttps://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/full/10.2105/AJPH.2005.079020 | /r/MensRights | 04/06/22 09:26 AM |
| 2 | Johnny Depp Wins On All Counts and 15 Million Dollars30 years of domestic violence research would disagree with you. As well as the women who opened the world's first domestic violence shelter. I’m not saying it’s not under reported and under investigated but not enough to make up for that giant gap in the numbers. Yes it does. A women abuses a man, the man snaps and fights back. The man is then the abuser and the woman the victim. Johnny Depp wasn't even believed until all the contrary evidence came to light and no one could deny it. https://www.… | /r/MensRights | 04/06/22 09:20 AM |
| 140 | Feminist alternative reality on Depp vs Heard trialThis. It is not a step back for women. It is a step forward for everyone. A high profile case where the whole world can see the cost of a psychopathic abuser who lies. The victim is being heard. The only reason Depp was heard, however, was that he had the money and resources to fight back. A lot of men don't. This has held the mirror up somewhat, everyone was on Amber's side at first. Look where these kind of snap judgements take us. This is a landmark, high profile case. It's not a step back fo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/06/22 03:19 PM |
| 8 | Being a white male isn’t automatically playing life on easy mode per seI think individualism is important. That's basically the end result of intersectionality if you follow it through to it's logical end anyway. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/06/22 11:23 AM |
| 10 | Why do feminists defend Amber Heard?Just a few things to say/ask... I am in no way refuting your overall point. I largely agree with you and as an individual I strongly believe that compassion is the best way to alleviate a lot of situations, even if I find some opinions distasteful. I fully agree that understanding is the most appropriate approach and helps to remind us to be mindful of our own tribalism. As you say, that does not mean I support the opinions nor does it mean I don't think they are toxic. I appreciate that some pe… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/05/22 06:54 PM |
| 4 | I think I may know one reason why conservatism is a popular outlet for those who are anti-woke/pro-male.I think it's much more common over time for humans to stick to binary thinking on almost any topic than for them not to. Tribal thinking basically. Makes sense, we are a tribal species. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/04/22 08:11 AM |
| 4 | "If you don't get into fights with any guy who makes fun of your girl then u not a real man"I don't know, I have the opposite opinion than you. I think comedy is art and maybe I am a bit of a zealot when it comes to art but I wouldn't want to stifle anything I consider art. Comedians rib on people all the time, it's to be expected for a stand up act. Especially at the Oscars. It was an offhand, admittedly lame, joke. However, his whole skit wasn't aimed toward Jada so I don't even see it as bullying really. Bullying would be more sustained than a short quip. People shouldn't take jokes… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/22 09:34 PM |
| 1 | The reaction to the Oscars is downright disgusting and very telling of what kind of person someone isI too would like to see this link. I think I know what study you are referencing. | /r/MensRights | 28/03/22 06:11 PM |
| 7 | It’s annoying how people think we want to ‘harm’ women.Whilst I appreciate your overall point that what OP said is a generalisation and they shouldn't have done that. People are frustrated with Feminism, but that doesn't mean that it is appropriate to generalise why people follow feminism. In defence of OP, they said a lot of, that could mean anytbing from a large minority to most. So, the context of what they meant is key here. I do have a couple of caveats with your post... if i wanted to stoop to your level, i could say that you being a man makes… | /r/MensRights | 03/03/22 07:18 AM |
| 1 | Warren Farrell with Andrew YangThank you for this. I'm going to make this short because you said you aren't going to reply anyway. There are some points you mentioned that I could unpack but like you said, it is a lot and I don't have the time or inclination. The main reason I discuss these issues is because I enjoy exploring human tribalism and behaviour. I could go into how feminist academia has got away from itself but there's no point there either. I don't agree with all your inferences but that is irrelevant. I agree wit… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/22 12:37 AM |
| 2 | Warren Farrell with Andrew YangSo I had a reply lined up, but it was getting to be too long and I thought you probably wouldn't appreciate it (this still turned out long - sorry). I'm honestly not doing it to annoy you, I use reddit as a medium to organise my thoughts and often end up getting carried away. I will try to make this brief. It does mean a lot of my thoughts won't be expanded upon, but I still feel you are misrepresenting me somewhat. I respect your opinion. Patriarchy Theory does stumble onto a lot of truths. The… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/22 09:01 PM |
| 5 | Warren Farrell with Andrew YangI don't hate feminism. I just think Patriarchy theory as a basis for government and institutional policies is a bad idea. Just as I don't hate Catholicism, I am one after all. I just think God as a basis for government and institutional policies is a bad idea. I really don't think you get it at all. Take care of yourself. Maybe go outside and touch some grass lol | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/22 07:15 PM |
| 5 | Warren Farrell with Andrew YangYa know when I found this sub I thought I found an island of sanity on men's issues but this sub is devolving into the same mansphere anti feminism nonsense From your response, it doesn't actually seem like you're addressing my arguments. Or anyone who I have seen you reply to today. The person you originally responded to gave examples of Andrew Yang saying some ignorant things. Calling these out isn't "toxic tribalism". Honestly, this sub isn't in anyway close to being like the "manosphere". No… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/22 07:07 PM |
| 3 | Female Tekken pro fired by team over unacceptable comments about short men. Tanukana said: “Men who are under 5 ft 7 don’t have human rights.”.Stupid and bigoted comment to be sure. Not sure she deserved to be fired. | /r/MensRights | 23/02/22 10:15 AM |
| 8 | Warren Farrell with Andrew Yangbut can we seriously stop minimizing womens' issues? Most women's issues aren't even women's issues. Domestic Violence/violence shouldn't be gendered. The fact that it is and it is heavily weighted toward women's issues is what makes it gendered. If society approached such issues as a victim/perpetrator dynamic that would solve a lot of issues, but it doesn't fit the narrative. Women absolutely should have reproductive rights I rather think you missed their point, the idea that men would have re… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/22 09:42 AM |
| 3 | I want to talk about something. After a time hearing form women and feminists about how women see themselves as victims of x,y and z, has anyone else gotten the impression that this how SOME women want there world to see them as, you know, perpetual victims?It's not meant to be in a literal sense, it's meant in a meta-literal context. Perhaps perceived would be a better word in place of afforded. Out of all the gender stereotypes against women that have been challenged over the years, lack of agency is the only one that has remained constant. I would even argue that modern day feminism thrives off of it. See figure 3 for reference. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/22 09:09 AM |
| 14 | I want to talk about something. After a time hearing form women and feminists about how women see themselves as victims of x,y and z, has anyone else gotten the impression that this how SOME women want there world to see them as, you know, perpetual victims?I have an alternative to this, that I think is less combative: Women are afforded empathy at the cost of agency, men are afforded agency at the cost of empathy. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/22 08:19 AM |
| 3 | Men and women are not the same.Whilst are science is lacking as to the exact nature of the differences, and nurture certainly plays a role. It also, not intrinsically true that just because something is biologically based that it means it is desirable or insurmountable. Though, it is also not intrinsically true that just because something is biologically based that it means it is bad or worth changing. Being aware of biological differences, let's us be aware of our limits as people and focus on what it is important to change.… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/02/22 06:40 PM |
| 2 | The data are clear: The boys are not all rightI think I can manage, I have already done the bitter climb. I just hope I have enough time to check out The Frozen Wilds as I have never been there! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/02/22 06:12 PM |
| 3 | The data are clear: The boys are not all rightI hope I have more time than Project Zero Dawn though. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/02/22 09:31 PM |
| 1 | Does Modern Day Feminism Even Know What it Wants?Part 2 I'm not saying the "moderate" feminists are responsible for anything, I'm just asking how can they still associate themselves with such a Toxic Movement? I get you here - and if this is your overall point perhaps this makes a lot of my above arguments invalid as well. I feel we have spoken passed each other somewhat, but I have enjoyed your perspective either way. I don't understand it either but this is why I bought up religion. I don't understand how people can associate blindly with th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/02/22 09:37 AM |
| 1 | Does Modern Day Feminism Even Know What it Wants?Sorry this is so long (and in two parts), this isn't meant to overwhelm and you have made some great points that have got me. I just had a lot to say in response lol. I think I might be done after this. I have enjoyed our conversation and will read anything you deign to reply with. I do hope (if nothing else) you reply to my comments on Gynocentrism, as I feel I am missing something in regards to the topic. Part 1 Feminists fight among themselves all the time. My point was that they never fight … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/02/22 09:37 AM |
| 19 | The data are clear: The boys are not all rightWhat gets me about this is that we have definitely taken great strides to say that women are capable. There has been so much effort into making sure women are supported. Including scholarships and a change in the structure of specific aspects of the education system. To the point that every disparity against women is seen as inherently sexist. Whereas this article isn't even concerned with outcomes but how boys are failing at the level where we should be doing our best to support everyone's deve… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/02/22 08:34 AM |
| 13 | The data are clear: The boys are not all rightI'm trying to complete Horizon Zero Dawn for a 2nd time before the next game comes out. I think I'll just do that instead. Edit: And then I scrolled down lol | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/02/22 08:24 AM |
| 1 | Does Modern Day Feminism Even Know What it Wants?Idk why MRAs bring her name up constantly I was bringing her up as an example that some self-identified feminists do challenge modern day feminism. Her Conservative or defence of traditional roles is irrelevant to my point. I personally haven't listened to her in years. It applies to everyone, if you witness people in your family say racist things, would you just roll your eyes and ignore it? Again, irrelevant to my point. I see no reason that the moderate feminist is under any more obligation t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/02/22 07:32 AM |
| 10 | What are the biggest female privileges?I am always hesitant to write about female privileges as an absolute but there are few that seem to form a strong pattern, just remember that these (whilst based on research) are open to interpretation and debate. I can certainly believe it, but it is worth doing your own research and to also be aware that social/behavioural research is often flawed. I'm skeptical of most of it as the variables that can confound it are potentially limitless. Having said that, there are three that come to mind as… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/22 11:28 PM |
| 2 | Does Modern Day Feminism Even Know What it Wants?I agree the end result is still authoritarianism, I am just pointing out that they probably don't see it that. In fact, they probably see it as overthrowing a form of authoritarianism in itself. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/22 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Does Modern Day Feminism Even Know What it Wants?If that is the case then why isn't the "Silent Majority" opposing this? I have two answers to this: 1) Just because people aren't explictly for it, doesn't mean that people are explicitly against. Most people are unaware, don't care or are neutral. 2) Of the ones who are against it. Some do speak out (even if looking at feminists or ex-feminists: Erin Pizzey, Christina Hoff-Summers, Cassie Jaye etc). Some are afraid. Some don't want to lose their jobs etc. There are a litany of reasons. "Good Fe… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/22 05:43 PM |
| 3 | Does Modern Day Feminism Even Know What it Wants?You're spot on! It is an argument I should have made clearer in my OP. An oversight on my part, though I'm not going to beat myself up about it. Thank you for your comment, it is definitely a good point and I appreciate having it on the thread (not that it is all about me). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/22 02:10 PM |
| 4 | Does Modern Day Feminism Even Know What it Wants?Good point, I did touch on this in my footnotes but perhaps I could have made this clearr. I was just trying to demonstrate how impossible it is to argue through logic because it is not a logical argument. I was just trying to cover all the basis of the argument. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to clarify! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/22 01:54 PM |
| 6 | Does Modern Day Feminism Even Know What it Wants?I used to think this but (and maybe this is wishful thinking on my part) I have changed my mind somewhat. The silent majority is extremely important. Most of the silent majority is complacent. They don't research like we do, but if this information can be inched bit by bit to the majority, then the capitalist/institutional incentive will slowly erode. The actual zealots of the movement rely on corporations and legal institutions to capitulate to them. If it becomes more socially unacceptable the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/22 01:34 PM |
| 6 | Does Modern Day Feminism Even Know What it Wants?Someone else in this thread said someone similar and I have provided my thoughts. To this though, I would like to add that this is probably the end result of institutions that take on Patriarchy as a dominnat theory. I just don't think that most people realise it is an authoritarian ideology. They literally think it is just evening the playing field (for want of a better term of phrase). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/22 01:11 PM |
| 5 | Does Modern Day Feminism Even Know What it Wants?I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying in a general but that's beside the point. I do think as an institutionalised ideology it is ripe to abuse from opportunistic and bad faith individuals (and these are the ones that concern me the most), however, I do also think at least some feminists in power are just naive. It isn't so much that they're ideologically possessed they just want to be seen as the good guy, or don't want to jeopardise their career or even see monetary value in toe… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/22 12:40 PM |
| 8 | Does Modern Day Feminism Even Know What it Wants?I refuse to believe that this is a majority of feminists. I think a vocal minority, who unfortunately shout the loudest and have a lot of control over the discourse are pushing for this. Most are just doing what they think is morally correct and have endured some very real pain at the hands of men. This doesn't make it any better when they blame men (or Patriarchy) as whole but I still believe in compassion as a response. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/22 11:48 AM |
| 9 | Does Modern Day Feminism Even Know What it Wants?It's this black and whit for us or against us that annoys me the most. This is one of those cognitive distortions that I mentioned in my OP. The theory relies on this (of many) and uses it to distort the moral compass of people. It's a powerful one. I also don't mean to imply that I disagree with feminist ideals completely. I do think we can do more to improve the system when it comes to dealing with rape, or supporting victims of domestic violence. I also do think catcalling and harassment is u… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/22 11:45 AM |
| 22 | Does Modern Day Feminism Even Know What it Wants?This is why I find it outstanding that a lot of feminists think it is comforting when they argue that not all feminists think like that but most feminists I talk to online believe in Patriarchy theory... How is it a comfort that whilst any individual idea a feminist might only be attributed to that Feminist, and yet the prominent feminist movement today believes in Patriarchy theory, which is inherently anti-male. So the feminist movement (in power) has people that can't even agree the best cour… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/22 11:30 AM |
| 6 | Motivated Reasoning - Explanation in the CommentsHi Everyone, I can't take credit for finding this video. I found it because of a comment by u/redgarnetamaranth, so full credit goes to them. I made a post 3 months ago saying we should be mindful of how humanity is Non-Sensical by nature and how we should be mindful of it when approaching social issues (which are often emotionally charged subjects). This post has since being removed (I'm not sure why) but I couldn't help but notice that the couple of responses I did receive, were concerned that… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/02/22 04:13 PM |
| 5 | I see feminism as a form of entryismIt is in at least someway influenced by biology though. I agree ideology is a big part of it, but I do think this particular ideology is just culturally reinforcing negative perceptions and stereotypes toward men that to some degree have always existed. It's just now there's a moral culture driving them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/02/22 08:24 AM |
| 2 | The notion that women are vastly more empathetic then men is just very wrongThanks for both of these. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/22 07:11 PM |
| 3 | The notion that women are vastly more empathetic then men is just very wrongHave you got links to these studies? I'd appreciate being able to have a look. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/22 06:59 PM |
| 1 | how to show to women that advocating for men does not mean anti-women?Not OP, but have been reading a few of your responses and wanted to jump in. Maybe my biases are blocking me from understanding your overall points, so I wanted to ask some questions to clarify. I must admit, I am finding it difficult to understand where you are coming from (which isn't necessarily on you - like I said, it is just as likely it is from my own mental blinders - if not more so). So I have list of questions, with some quotes to reference the specific elements I'm asking about: That'… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/02/22 02:09 PM |
| 1 | how to show to women that advocating for men does not mean anti-women?Unrelated to the overall discussion but... So excited for The Forbidden West! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/02/22 01:31 PM |
| 3 | Why do people always assume we want to dismantle resources for women instead of add focus for male resources?No idea why you got downvoted here. Seems to me. You're making good points about the tribalism of humanity, which we are all beholden to (to some extent). I agree that we need to understand it as being influenced by human nature if we're ever going to even stand a chance of overcoming it. As it currently stands, it seems we are doomed to repeat cycles of tribalism, just with new ideologies driving it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/02/22 10:22 AM |
| 5 | Inherent hostility of feminist spaces and academiaPersonally, I see where you're coming from but I would rather say that masculinity by itself is neither good or bad. I would say it just is. Unless I'm misunderstanding you, I would say this fits better. Also, I don't think you're arguing against the strongest definition of toxic masculinity (although you're not far off). I don't agree with it but the strongest definition would (to me) would be: The common social pressures around gender placed on men that lead to adverse/toxic behaviours. I'm pa… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/02/22 07:44 AM |
| 1 | Inherent hostility of feminist spaces and academiawordswordswordsing What does this mean? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/02/22 07:11 AM |
| 2 | How society sees soap operas, video games, and their respective audiencesThis is hard to judge, I came to gamer gate late to the party but there are generally two schools of thought (neither of which I think are sufficiently nuanced). On the one hand, you have people claiming it is anti-corruption. A women developer slept with someone to get a good review on their game. A lot of GGers would claim it is not the fact that age did it, but that she was allowed to do it. With the idea that this kind of corruption is a common occurrence. Couple that with the slew of gamers… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/02/22 01:34 PM |
| 3 | We need to stop saying thisaccountability for all the ways men are not able to stand up to the bullies of their fellow men. I sometimes wonder if I am missing something with the "other men" argument, but then I see statements like this. I am unsure what anyone could infer from this other than the argument: Men may be being bullied but it is by other men and because they share a gender with their bullies, it is therefore a morality flaw of the men being bullied. They are culpable for the other members within their group. Y… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/02/22 12:15 PM |
| 7 | Does anybody else dislike how normalised violence towards men is in Movies and TV shows?Media trivialising violence against men tells women that it's okay to hit men. I think it is the other way around. It is more socially acceptable for women to hit men and so our media represents that. I have never agreed with premise that media is responsible for out attitudes. Media just follows the trends of the time. Some people may be influenced by it but ultimately putting it all down to media seems reductive. It is just too simplistic a view and people need to stop blaming TV for all of so… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/01/22 04:06 PM |
| 5 | Got downvoted for calling a grown woman who had sex with multiple minors a pedophile. Many said the boys probably enjoyed it. Imagine if the genders were swappedI wouldn't have even bothered replying to that. I'm stopped reading after this point: This person is not a pedophile because children were not her preference, money were. This is the most brain dead take. Intention is everything, motivation can be different for any crime. Take what they said and apply it to any crime: This person is not a murderer because killing was not there motivation, money was. I want to know how they reason it being different. Considering that despite the bias of "Boys wan… | /r/MensRights | 10/01/22 08:40 AM |
| 5 | UN celebrates international toilets day. No mention of international men's day by the UN or anyone reallyI thought, "oh maybe the UN is coming around." The UN has some of the most biased "research" on gender equality I have ever seen. They don't even release their datasets. I have posted together a full breakdown of one their "studies" before. A while ago now but still. I don't usually like throwing around accusations of bias (we tend to overestimate it in others and underestimate it in ourselves) but it is so blatant in the UN's case that I feel confident saying it. The idea that the UN is going t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/11/21 12:08 AM |
| 0 | Humanity Is Non-Sensical and We Should Realise (and accept) that When Dealing With Social IssuesWhere have I said otherwise? The narrative against men does need to stop but we still have to be careful not to fall into tribal thinking. Feminism thinks it is fighting for equality, based on a history that isn't necessarily untrue but definitely cherry picked. I used to think otherwise but the MRM will rise in the future. These issues will eventually be addressed once enough men fall behind and fall victim to them. We have, rightfully, dismantled gender roles for women but this hasn't been don… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/11/21 09:42 AM |
| 0 | Humanity Is Non-Sensical and We Should Realise (and accept) that When Dealing With Social IssuesI agree. I'm not throwing the baby out with the bathwater. We should definitely try to be logical and people should absolutely stand up for what they believe. I just see people get heated around these topics, my aim was merely to give people a bit of grounding. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/11/21 06:56 AM |
| 2 | I strongly believe that much of the trans phenomenon in boys and young men in the past decade is in fact a persecution phenomenon equivalent to how Jews were persecuted so harshly in medieval Spain that many converted to Christianity just to be accepted as humans.Psychology is one of the youngest sciences up to this day, so, no surprise, that is has a long way to go ahead still. I said much the same thing in this very thread. I like psychology, I want to see the methods develop but it really is a science in its infancy and we definitely don't have all the answers. Same goes for other studies of human behaviour, such as sociology. I don't go as far to say it is useless (it is emphatically not). The push to understand the human condition is noble aim. Can … | /r/MensRights | 08/11/21 11:41 AM |
| 3 | I strongly believe that much of the trans phenomenon in boys and young men in the past decade is in fact a persecution phenomenon equivalent to how Jews were persecuted so harshly in medieval Spain that many converted to Christianity just to be accepted as humans.I went back and read the chain again. I think I have more of an understanding why you took it personally now. I don't disagree with you or OP, but I am not sure I agree. I think more social acceptance has definitely led to more trans people coming out. I think this is a very good thing. Is it enough to explain the sudden rise in numbers? I don't know. Probably not but how do we even test that. I'm not sure we have the methods to adequately measure each and every person's psychology behind it. Th… | /r/MensRights | 08/11/21 11:19 AM |
| 2 | I strongly believe that much of the trans phenomenon in boys and young men in the past decade is in fact a persecution phenomenon equivalent to how Jews were persecuted so harshly in medieval Spain that many converted to Christianity just to be accepted as humans.I'm not going to reply to everything because I don't have anything to add, nor do I disagree: I have to remind you, that we do not have real scientific test to see, if a person has genuine dysphoria, is delusional, is brainwashed, or just lies for whatever reason. Simple fact, yes? It is a simple fact. That's not to say that more robust means of research doesn't exist, maybe more longitudinal data will reveal better methods. You're not wrong though, as it stands currently our ability to test the… | /r/MensRights | 08/11/21 11:06 AM |
| 8 | I strongly believe that much of the trans phenomenon in boys and young men in the past decade is in fact a persecution phenomenon equivalent to how Jews were persecuted so harshly in medieval Spain that many converted to Christianity just to be accepted as humans.And for your information, my people do not see act of adopting Christianity as a "badge of honor". I'm sorry it has got to you so much. I never made this claim however and I was agreeing with you that this wasn't a good comparison. I'm not sure why you're reacting in this way to me. I'm not OP and have never made such an argument. I can see why it would be insulting to you. I didn't realise it was such a high point of contention. I wasn't trying to show support for the comparison either way. How… | /r/MensRights | 08/11/21 10:34 AM |
| 2 | I strongly believe that much of the trans phenomenon in boys and young men in the past decade is in fact a persecution phenomenon equivalent to how Jews were persecuted so harshly in medieval Spain that many converted to Christianity just to be accepted as humans.I'm not sure OP meant to invalidate your experience specifically, just that there might be more to the sudden uptake in the amount of people claiming to be transgender. I'm not saying OP is right but I don't think they meant to imply that trans people don't exist in general. I get why you would take it personally, the OPs comment could be seen as coming across as vitriolic. These are difficult conversations at the best of times. | /r/MensRights | 08/11/21 10:19 AM |
| 3 | I strongly believe that much of the trans phenomenon in boys and young men in the past decade is in fact a persecution phenomenon equivalent to how Jews were persecuted so harshly in medieval Spain that many converted to Christianity just to be accepted as humans.You're not wrong that it was more extreme and the comparison is perhaps a bit insensitive. There's some merit, however, that some men are transitioning to women to escape social stigma. We don't need to make comparisons (however) to make this argument. That's not to say the argument is correct either but it is worth further investigation to get to the truth of it. | /r/MensRights | 08/11/21 10:12 AM |
| 1 | Is feminism at odds with democracy?Really great post. I was just wondering if you could explain further, just a small aspect of it here: It is a means of them asserting an inegalitarian form of legitimacy that sidesteps what should be expected of them, that they draw legitimacy for their understanding of equality through consensus of participants interested in that goal in a manner accountable to those participants. You lost me a bit here, particularly the bit in bold. Could you explain further what you mean? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/11/21 07:55 AM |
| 1 | Is feminism at odds with democracy?Interesting take, I'm not sure I get your reasoning. Take your last sentence for example: Including democratic ideologies. What about Ops definition includes democratic ideologies. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/11/21 09:25 AM |
| 1 | This is the first time I've ever come across suck blatant hate. This it so depressing. Also what do you guys think of this issue?It's a bit different for me. I like to think I can argue my point. I don't really care about changing their opinion. So, when they come back with an answer I feel a pull to counteract it. Of course, this usually ends up with a circular argument but any new points that come up I think: Well, I have an answer for that. Then round and round it goes. My answers aren't always all that great either. I usually think of a better answer later, or I get so frustrated that when I read it back I realise I'm… | /r/MensRights | 02/11/21 08:15 PM |
| 10 | Men urged to campaign for an end to violence against women... but what about just an end to violence in general?Fighting violence sure, not sure we're ever going to end violence. Seems like a tall order. | /r/MensRights | 02/11/21 07:32 AM |
| 16 | This is the first time I've ever come across suck blatant hate. This it so depressing. Also what do you guys think of this issue?"Lastworditis" . I have to fight it sometimes. I'm getting better with this, I think. I just try to remind myself that it isn't worth it. | /r/MensRights | 02/11/21 06:41 AM |
| 1 | Outcomes, Opportunity and BiasI agree with your assessment. I think this is what I would define as equality of opportunity (as outlined in my post) but I realise different people have different definitions for this. I agree with ending homelessness for instance, this can even be in the form of shared accommodation. It's just that if you don't have a permanent address, you are automatically locked out from a lot of necessities that we (rightly or wrongly) need to progress in Society. For instance, you can't get a bank account… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/10/21 12:00 AM |
| 1 | Outcomes, Opportunity and BiasYes... But if you imagine the track like society. Some people are on a more disadvantaged area of the track. I wouldn't think too much into it though, all analogies fall apart under scrutiny. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/10/21 06:41 PM |
| 2 | Outcomes, Opportunity and BiasThank you. This is a really important aspect of it and why I consider myself firmly on the left. People are definitely disadvantaged and need help. Some people have made through a unique inventions but others may have ideas that never get off the ground because they don't have the means to excel. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/10/21 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts on this Guardian piece on how to raise a son.I don't believe equality of opportunity will ever be completely possible. Nor do I believe that equality of outcome is. But I do believe that one of these we can constantly work toward regardless. The other, only tyranny would resolve. Not all success is down to hard work and not all success is down to nepotism. based on group members What do you mean by this? Depending on your answer, I may agree or disagree with you. For instance, disabled people might have more trouble accessing buildings. If… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/10/21 06:51 AM |
| 1 | Thoughts on this Guardian piece on how to raise a son.People have different definitions for things. When some people say socialism they mean the government taking control over the means of production. When others say socialism they mean the social safety nets that some left-wing governments have put into place. I suspect something similar is going on here. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/10/21 06:11 AM |
| 3 | In Australia feminists are pushing for 50% female firefighter quota, this is not only disgusting human rights violation and discrimination against men. but also put the safety of the public at risk.Third, although not definitively proven (from what I have seen), imposter syndrome is already a real thing. Are we reinforcing self-doubt from an intrapersonal perspective as well as an interpersonal one. I guess this is more an extension of your second point. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/10/21 05:51 AM |
| 3 | FSW "Feminism Rule #1: Blame men." takes precedence over human decency and facts. Men aren't even really human to Feminists, are they?AWALT? | /r/FeminismStopsWhen | 28/10/21 06:44 AM |
| 10 | Schrodinger's Rapist: AKA "Any Man Is A Potential Rapist".This is an excellent point. That initial reaction is very much ingrained. As a short guy, we'll statistically I'm not actually that short, but I'm less than 6 foot. I sometimes have that instinctual fear response but I don't try to judge them for it. I have become good friends with people who I would definitely feel apprehensive about walking pass in a dark alley but in reality they are like big puppy dogs. I wouldn't have made friends with a lot of people if I just went with that first instinct… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/10/21 07:31 AM |
| 3 | No more dumb dadsBluey is great! That's all I have to say really... | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/10/21 08:21 AM |
| 8 | "males are afraid to seek help due to patriarchal norms"Not saying that these stories aren't true (and despicable) and not saying that this isn't an example of an overall institutional trend. I'm not saying that it is either. We likely wouldn't have the research as the ones doing the research would also be the ones perpetuating the abuse. We just don't have the data (that we know of). These may be indicative of specific trends in the industry or just specific institutes. Not that it changes much but people might generally have a positive experience. … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/10/21 08:07 AM |
| 1 | The Double Edged Sword of SexismFair enough, that is what I had meant to do... Misanthropic may not have been the right word either. Thanks! I'll bare this in mind in future. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/10/21 06:54 AM |
| 1 | The Double Edged Sword of SexismFair enough. Sorry about that. I just meant that some of their comments were misanthropic, it wasn't meant to be referencing them entirely. Would it have been acceptable if I just called their comments rude? Fair enough on the last point. I had gotten riled up by that point but that's no excuse. That's not how I want to behave. Sorry again. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/10/21 06:07 AM |
| 1 | The Double Edged Sword of SexismWas mine removed as a personal attack? I thought the other person was being rude. I probably shouldn't have risen to it. Sorry about that. I really don't want to give myself over to mudslinging contests. It just ground my gears, you know? Would I be able to know what was considered in appropriate about my comment so I can act accordingly in future. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/10/21 06:01 AM |
| 0 | The UN gender studies are a jokeI bought that up cause I find it contradictory with your statement that women are unfairly judged in higher positions How so? I'm not trying to be antagonistic here but I really don't get what you mean. When I say unfairly judged, I am more talking about women being seen as emotional/hysterical etc or having less agency. I don't really see how what you are talking about applies. Women can still make bad decisions in leadership. Like men can. there’s even a corporate saying that goes like women a… | /r/MensRights | 05/10/21 05:29 AM |
| 1 | The Double Edged Sword of SexismMy reply remains the same. That's their perogative. If people don't read my posts on the Internet, I am sure I will get over it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/10/21 04:26 AM |
| 1 | The UN gender studies are a jokeI find this an odd response. I never mentioned abortion or religion and I never said that any kind of bias is perpetuated by any one sex. | /r/MensRights | 05/10/21 04:23 AM |
| 1 | The Double Edged Sword of SexismI'm not particularly bothered about getting a response (never have been). I put opinion out there, if someone wants to discuss a particular part or tell me how I'm wrong or gets a little bit of a fresh perspective. All great. All the better. I'm not seeking to change the world. Really, I mainly post these long diatribes because it is the one place that I feel I can share my opinion and collect my thoughts. Not all my posts are going to be coherent for this reason (they won't all be this long eit… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/10/21 10:38 PM |
| 1 | The UN gender studies are a jokeI really do think it depends on the context. I can imagine that there is a bias against women in positions of power and men are (unfairly) seen as more competent. So high status men are seen in a more positive light where compared to high status women (at least historically, that may have changed somewhat these days). Whereas if you take a altercation between a man and a women, the man will more likely be seen as the aggressor (even when they're not). Don't get me wrong, there's still a double s… | /r/MensRights | 04/10/21 09:01 AM |
| 2 | Men have never bullied me for my hobbies or uni majorI would say Triss but after reading the books, it has to be Yennefer everytime for me. I have played through W3 so many times now that I am at the point where I just make the same decisions each time. Dorian is cool. I like Sera myself. Dorian has an amazing character arc, however. I might have to play through the Dragon Age games again. It's been a while. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/21 05:09 AM |
| 10 | Men have never bullied me for my hobbies or uni majorLove your choice of RPGs! What's your favourite of the Dragon Age Series and also... Triss or Yennefer lol? But seriously, people should be allowed to do what makes them happy. I don't think anyone here would have a problem with anyone who falls outside of perceived gender roles. I just also think people should also accept those that do. I'm always envious of those who can code. I could probably learn, I just don't have the patience for it. I just find it a shame because I have ideas for charact… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/09/21 09:29 PM |
| 3 | I don't know why it took this long, but I just realized that a fair amount of the left feels that sexism against men has the same urgency of racism against white peopleYou know what is actually harmful? Denying the history of black people in America and thinking that everything is all dandy without accounting for the long reaching effects of what occurred in the past. I don't deny the past and I don't deny that racism exists today. I don't think everything is all dandy today. Nor do I deny that the past has had an impact on the way current society has formed. I deny that the past is the same as the present though and I deny that CRT is the correct tool for hel… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/09/21 09:53 PM |
| 1 | How many of you are content creators? I think both the left and men can benefit from having their own role modelsI agree with you first paragraph. I know he believes in God so I would get why he would personally see the divinity as important. I would agree but I haven’t found a religious ideal that is solely the product of religion. Most, if not all, of the religious doctrines and rules (outside of how to worship or which god is right) can be found in other religious and non-religious groups I agree with this, I have some comments but I wanted to address the above paragraph and this paragraph together (sor… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/09/21 06:19 PM |
| 7 | I don't know why it took this long, but I just realized that a fair amount of the left feels that sexism against men has the same urgency of racism against white peopleThis is the sort of thinking I can get behind. It is a nuanced take. I still think CRT relies on your second statement to survive: White people benefitted from slavery Even if this wasn't the initial intent, I think CRT encourages this growing sentiment. I won't go into it though, as I think we agree on the important aspect: It hurt those white people less, but the point is that this was about power over poor people. Phrasing it this was just keeps dividing the working poor so that they don't un… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/09/21 04:38 PM |
| 1 | How many of you are content creators? I think both the left and men can benefit from having their own role modelsFair enough. I definitely don't idolise Jordan Peterson, I just wasn't sure if he fit so neatly into the Conservative label. Some of his traditional ideals definitely do and I heavily disagree with him there. There is no going back to some past traditions. In some ways they worked but in a lot of ways they were disastrous. I do wonder if we can recreate some of the conditions he talks about (or a suitable alternative) without appealing to tradition. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/09/21 04:26 PM |
| 2 | How many of you are content creators? I think both the left and men can benefit from having their own role modelsI can respect that. And it is partly why I went off him. I think his thoughts on judo-Christian religions are interesting. I got the impression he focused on them as a meta narrative of why they formed the way they did, which granted isn't very scientific. I'm not religious, but I do think that we have thrown the baby out with the bathwater somewhat. Some religious ideals do have benefits and the quest for Meaning does seem to be an intrinsic part of human nature. I will concede he relies on it … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/09/21 04:22 PM |
| 10 | How many of you are content creators? I think both the left and men can benefit from having their own role modelsIs Jordan Peterson a Conservative? Don't get me wrong, he does support some right-wing ideals, He has said some questionable things, and I have gone off him somewhat. He does make some good points and I get the impression that he is not against more left-wing ideals like Healthcare and social programmes. The best left-wing creator I know is the Prim Reaper though she isn't a male, she definitely supports men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/09/21 03:56 PM |
| 10 | I don't know why it took this long, but I just realized that a fair amount of the left feels that sexism against men has the same urgency of racism against white peopleNot that it can't happen, just that the number of instances in my life where my race has colored someone's opinion or assumptions about me is extremely low. Like, maybe a handful of times across two and a half decades. You're right that it doesn't happen to white people nearly as much. I think it depends on where the individuals tend to live. I would posit that the narrative of oppression/oppressed even when applied to race is still a prejudice one (and narrowminded), even though it makes more s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/09/21 03:34 PM |
| 1 | Sabina NessaI see where you are coming from... How then, do we resolve the empathy gap. If men are unlikely to express their experiences in the same way and men, in general, are less risk averse then the perceptions are unlikely to change in general as well. What does this mean going forward? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/09/21 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Sabina NessaIf we regarded violence towards men with the same empathy as we do violence towards women, society would break down. Could you explain this? I think I get what you mean but would love for you to extrapolate further (if it is not too much of a bother). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/09/21 01:00 PM |
| 31 | House passes bill requiring woman to register for draft.I had a debate with someone who said that Feminists organisations had spoken out against the draft for men... Except of course for the right now situation where a feminist group is asking the SC to review the draft for the undue burden it puts on men over women. I wonder if they knew this was coming and why they decided only decided recently that it was a great injustice. | /r/MensRights | 28/09/21 10:53 AM |
| 4 | I made a series of posters to inform people about sexist discrimination, and its similarity with racist discriminationThe first thing they'll do is cite that men commit violent crime disproportionately Then when you show statistics revealing that men are at much greater risk of violence and murder than women the argument being said is always "but it's done by other men" I'm going to risk the downvotes here but I actually don't think these arguments are inherently racist/sexist or even right-wing. To me it depends fully on how they are used. Let's take the first one. Putting aside the statistics on abuse in re… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/09/21 07:43 AM |
| 10 | I made a series of posters to inform people about sexist discrimination, and its similarity with racist discriminationAntifeminists often criticize intersectionality, but it actually has some truth to it. It does but it is also a lot more complex than Feminists will be point out. For one, general trends in statistics do nothing to measure the individual issues that people go through. It doesn't necessarily follow than any individual white woman will have a better life than a black man. Nor is intersectionality true at all points. There are multiple variables that go into defining an individual's life. Health, w… | /r/MensRights | 27/09/21 07:30 AM |
| 12 | A Story of Two Movements for EqualityI'm glad it was a worthwhile read to you. I mainly use reddit as a place to vent but I do try to make my posts interesting to read! I just feel disheartened by it all. The negative aspects of Feminism aren't just Fringe. It is where it is 'destined' to end up, to use a romantic term. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/09/21 06:14 PM |
| 17 | Sabina NessaDo we even have data against hate crimes on men? Does that sort of data even get recorded as a hate crime. Also, I am highly dubious of hate crime "reports" as they tend to be done by the interpretation of the individual rather than the actual rste of conviction at least in the UK. An speech on immigration in the UK was recorded as a hate crime, when in reality it wasn't one. So my question is, is there even a single recorded incident of hate crime against a male because they are a male? Because… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/09/21 04:50 PM |
| 8 | Why is feminism popular?I don't think the right question is: is it a hate group or is it not? I don't know. If it adheres to an ideology that is inherently toxic, that directly encourages tribalism and treating people differently based on their sex. I don't see why it isn't a valid question. Never said feminism was a hate group, I think it is a hate movement though. It is based off of flawed concepts that encourage the worst in human nature (namely Patriarchy theory) and I'm tired of pretending that this isn't an inher… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/09/21 05:08 AM |
| 7 | Why is feminism popular?Would you say that feminism is a hate movement in the same vein as anti-semetism? I would but most people would laugh at me. But the (more specifically toxic) parallels are there. The vilification of those who are perceived to be in power. Institutional discrimination. The US vs Them mentality. The framing of oppressors as both all powerful and woefully incompetent. The righteousness of the movement. To me, the writing is on the wall. This isn't to say that I think it will end the same way, but … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/21 09:24 PM |
| 23 | Why it is not just cruel, but outright dangerous to humiliate imbalanced men.There's also a strong possibility that women are more conflict avoidant (in general) so you're less likely to see an outwardly violent/aggressive woman but when it is behind closed doors and they are more likely to get away with it - then you see it more (see domestic violence statistics). Anti-social behaviour also tends to manifest differently in women, with more social toxicity than outright violence and I have also see women quite happy to join in toxic behaviours when with men. The factors … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/09/21 06:50 PM |
| 2 | FSW you're finally honest; Feminism is misandrist.It is bad for women as well. It will slowly get more and more toxic in its application until women start getting shit from it as well. People will figure it out eventually. | /r/FeminismStopsWhen | 21/09/21 08:41 AM |
| 3 | Why are there coding academies for women only, and it's acceptable (fine), but when there's a place for "men only", that's unacceptable, unfair and extremely sexist and minsogynst.Agreed - Like men being the abusers and women being the victims. Reinforced by the outgroup bias and the duluth model. They don't realise and who can blame them really? Not everyone is going to go out of their way to research this stuff. The only people who would know are the ones who ask questions or the ones who have been directly impacted. It is a sad state of affairs. So... They say they hate feminists and will bring up (the often) superficial reasons, which I just do not care about. I don't… | /r/MensRights | 20/09/21 09:23 PM |
| 7 | Why are there coding academies for women only, and it's acceptable (fine), but when there's a place for "men only", that's unacceptable, unfair and extremely sexist and minsogynst.Yeah, I have met so many people who say they don't like feminists but it is all the superficial stuff that annoys them. Like this one woman, who dislikes feminists because they say they don't want to be girly but wear long nails and fake tan. So they're hipocrits. And I'm like, okay... But what about the way feminism has policies being implemented that are harmful and toxic. The ironic thing is, this same person has shared posts about the gender paygap. Idgaf about what feminists wear, I care ab… | /r/MensRights | 20/09/21 06:47 AM |
| 16 | Why are there coding academies for women only, and it's acceptable (fine), but when there's a place for "men only", that's unacceptable, unfair and extremely sexist and minsogynst.The Top Comment bought me to it, but I have a simpler way of putting it: Because feminist propoganda has brainwashed a generation. Even if individual people don't believe in it, it is constant enough that they take on feminist beliefs without realising it. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/21 06:14 AM |
| 2 | My Difficulties Advocating For Men's Rights In A Feminist OrganizationI still agree with many of the values associated with feminism This stuck out to me. Just because someone disagrees with feminist rhetoric, doesn't mean that they disagree with the values. Some aspects of feminism, specifically Patriarchy theory, are just toxic. Thia theory is based of off an Us vs Them mentality. Women absolutely face issues because of their gender but to lay it all at the feet of some all encompassing Patriarchy is reductionist, absurd and in appropriate. I get the arguments t… | /r/MensRights | 19/09/21 05:49 AM |
| 10 | So it turns out that the idea that "it was legal to rape your wife" is actually wrong.I want to give you a microphone so you can drop it. This perfectly encapsulates everything wrong with the feminist movement. Cherry pick, ignore men then get outraged. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/09/21 06:33 AM |
| 1 | What is your opinion on feminism? (feel free to add further explanation in the comments)I put both because as an ex-feminist (I know - hiss), I do feel like they raise some genuine issues. Such as: Sexual abuse, the lack of agency ascribed to women (although I think certain aspects of feminism use this to a detrimental advantage)... Needless to say, it raises serious issues but looks at them through such a narrow perspective that it loses validity. So some women get blocked from career progression because they are women? Absolutely. Is this reflected in the so called pay gap? Absol… | /r/MensRights | 10/09/21 12:31 AM |
| 0 | I think this sub is losing its spirit.This seems to be a disproportionate response to what I said. Maybe because I didn't word it properly. No where did I say that feminism doesn't (by and large) hold the belief that inequalities in gender aren't caused by by men oppressing women. I would add a caveat that some people who claim to be feminists might just be ignorant of this and think it just means equality. Stop being a coward and say it like it is. What made you feel the need to call me a coward? I only ever share my true opinions … | /r/MensRights | 02/09/21 06:38 AM |
| 0 | I think this sub is losing its spirit.I have always been of the opinion that sexism is a two edged sword. For instance, the same mindset that sees women as a more likely to be innocent/the victims when it comes to issues of abuse (Amber and Johnny Depp comes to mind, at least at first) is the same sexism that determines women to be without agency and looked down on/patronised. The problem I have with modern day feminism is that it tries to have one without the other. And whilst misandrist/misogynist view points hurt men/women ultima… | /r/MensRights | 01/09/21 06:02 PM |
| 2 | "80% of Afghan Refugees Fleeing Taliban Are Women and Children". So it turns out that the narrative that Afghan men are fleeing while women and children are being "left behind" is completely wrong.This is Patriarchal theory all over. It has no predictive power and all outcomes can be interpreted through its lense. It is unfalsifiable and unhelpful. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/08/21 06:11 PM |
| 3 | An incredible dumb person on a other subreddit just pointed out that 90% of countries and companies are run by men- so therefore ALL men are privileged. That's like pointing out that most NBA players are black and super rich, therefore all black people must be wealthy.My point is that self-interest is not Inherently a right wing trait. People who have that trait are more likely to be right wing, but I don't thinks that's the same as claiming that a movement is right wing because it utilises this trait. The power hungry will latch onto any ideology that will help their power to grow. I agree that if you scratch the surface, then the inherently anti-liberal elements of Feminism are clear. It is still an ideology born of those typically of the left. That's not t… | /r/MensRights | 21/08/21 10:46 AM |
| 6 | An incredible dumb person on a other subreddit just pointed out that 90% of countries and companies are run by men- so therefore ALL men are privileged. That's like pointing out that most NBA players are black and super rich, therefore all black people must be wealthy.Feminism is not a right wing movement. The strongest proponents of it are from the left. It has come from Leftist circles in academia. If you were to say that it ignores traditional left-wing ideals. I would agree with you but I think it is a mistake to ignore its roots. We need to recognise that the left can embolden radical behaviours as well. Extremism isn't limited to one side. Tribalism is a hell of a drug and it is (unfortunately) a human flaw. The Us vs Them mentality is not an exclusive … | /r/MensRights | 21/08/21 10:09 AM |
| 15 | To our detractors. Where is this hate?I think this is just people to be honest. Who can honestly turn around and say they know it all? Not me, that's for sure. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/08/21 07:13 AM |
| 2 | Incels. Why empathy works better than derision.Hi there, I would love to answer your question. I'm just not sure what you're asking. Could you explain what it is you're looking for in terms of an answer? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/08/21 07:03 AM |
| 21 | Incels. Why empathy works better than derision.The prim reaper is so good. As someone who follows a lot of people against Critical Theories. Prim is my favourite because when she debunks them, it is very much from a Liberal perspective - and I mean actually Liberal, not whatever this new woke trend is. I find that I don't disagree with her on much. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/08/21 11:15 PM |
| 2 | Are there any current statistics for false accusations of rape and sexual assault?Well, that's definitely a more positive way of interpreting it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/08/21 09:42 PM |
| 10 | Are there any current statistics for false accusations of rape and sexual assault?I just don't think you understand it. I've seen a person's social life destroyed because she spread round school that he grabbed her chest. That never went to the police and yet he was bullied. His dad stopped talking to him. I had him crying on my shoulder. Then she said she made it all up. The person above you made a valid point and you just resorted to sarcastic drivel that doesn't actually add anything to the conversation. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/08/21 06:58 AM |
| 7 | People think women have it so much harder in life and that's ridiculousThe problem is that there is a minority of "feminists" with untold influence that see any attempt to help men as taking away from women issues. Men who have tried to make domestic abuse shelters have been shut down by feminists. Erin Prizzey, who said that domestic violence can no longer step foit in her own refuge. She was the first person in the world to open a shelter fir women. Research supporting feminist ideology is given an untold amount more focus in media and studies for men are (by-and… | /r/MensRights | 13/08/21 06:49 AM |
| 2 | People think women have it so much harder in life and that's ridiculousPlease don’t tell me you think this story is a fact I see where you are coming from but this is a direct quote from you and I can see why some one could interpret it as saying the story is untruthful. I don't think it is a bad interpretation of your language. If we define fact as: a thing that is known or proved to be true. Then it could be argued that you did speak about the truthfulness of the story even though I think you meant that it is not factually laid out but presented in a biased and e… | /r/MensRights | 13/08/21 06:31 AM |
| 23 | Female filmmakers denounce festival prize for Johnny DeppWill you also be my friend? | /r/MensRights | 11/08/21 10:55 PM |
| 6 | Is there really any point to this website anymore?You're welcome. I can't stand when people generalise this situation to a specific gender. It is sexist and I feel that we should still call it out. I assume that is what you were thanking me for. Take care! | /r/MensRights | 29/07/21 07:31 AM |
| 8 | Is there really any point to this website anymore?It's not women stupidity. It's human stupidity and as Einstein said. It is infinite. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/21 07:07 AM |
| 12 | Is there really any point to this website anymore?Reddit is the last piece of social media I am apart of. I still share my opinions but I no longer put effort into sourcing them as I used to. People just ignore the sources and jump straight into the ad hominem. I'm just tired and I am now at the point where I think the anti-male monoculture needs to run its course. Identity politics is the enemy of equality, not its friend but the extreme minority have been shouting for so long, people just don't question it anymore. I think even MRAs have to a… | /r/MensRights | 29/07/21 07:05 AM |
| 2 | Every guy I know has been screwed over either emotionally and financially. Men’s opinion of women as a whole in today’s society is not good at all.I agree completely. I think a lot of "critical theories" are in there death throws. | /r/MensRights | 12/07/21 07:54 AM |
| 1 | Every guy I know has been screwed over either emotionally and financially. Men’s opinion of women as a whole in today’s society is not good at all.I just don't understand why you would mention women specifically, or is it just that you were responding to the person above? Would you say that men need to speak up as well? I just think there are some women who have done more for Men's rights than a lot of men. Karen Straughen, Casey Jaye, Bettina Arndt, Erin Prizzey etc... And this: ust would be helpful if women who support men would also pull more weight. Do you think that women aren't pulling their weight specifically? Or did you mean somet… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/21 07:08 AM |
| 17 | Every guy I know has been screwed over either emotionally and financially. Men’s opinion of women as a whole in today’s society is not good at all.Maybe it will be different where we have this whole culture war documented on social media. Never before has there been such a record of how extreme elements cultivate. Maybe that will be our saving grace and we will learn enough to stop the cycle of stale grievances. | /r/MensRights | 12/07/21 12:36 AM |
| -1 | Every guy I know has been screwed over either emotionally and financially. Men’s opinion of women as a whole in today’s society is not good at all.Well the good women need to stand up against the feminist movement. It doesn't work like this. You can't say that people aren't good enough because they don't care about what you care about. Men support feminism too and when women do speak out, they can even be treated worse for what could only be described as being a "gender" traitor. Women don't have some sort of magical power by the merit of their genitals. They are no more responsible for feminism than men are. This is collectivist nonsense.… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/21 12:34 AM |
| 7 | What do you think of 'The privileged sex' by Martin Van Creveld or 'The myth of male power' by Warren Farrell?Adding to this, he has now seen for himself where fighting for men's rights gets him. The cards are stacked against people like him from the start. The majority of society just doesn't care (male or female), it's just not in the public consciousness. I don't think this is fully a social construct either. There are sexist elements to the manosphere that would probably become more pronounced if it ever gained momentum. Just as with feminism today, the moderate voices will be left behind. Having sa… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/07/21 07:45 AM |
| 33 | Why are so many women unaware of the emotional weight of actual labor. You know the type that built the world around them.I se where you're coming from, in that I agree it is a bit of a useless argument (which I think the post is pointing out)... The thing is, you can always boil it down to generalisations. Yes, women work as well but it is also true that men are more likely to be working longer hours. This can hardly be filtered down to the individual though but statistics are still on this post's side. | /r/MensRights | 03/07/21 03:39 PM |
| 0 | Feel really burnt out trying to defend MRAsI think the problem is that people define socialism in different ways. For instance: Private ownership, anti-trust laws, and good social programs mitigate much of this. Some people would define this statement as Socialism. I personally wouldn't. I had an argument with someone who said Communism wasn't an evil ideology and that we could take aspects of it. We were talking past each other until I realised they weren't talking about communism as in seizing the means of production. They basically me… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/06/21 10:37 AM |
| 3 | Child homicide perpetrators worldwide: a systematic review (Article Link in Reply)I agree with you. I just wanted to point out why I think these statistics are good. They can be used to point out the preposterous nature of some of the arguments used against boys/men. The fact you were downvoted for asking a question wasn't fair and revealed that people were really trying to understand where you were coming from. I want to make clear, I wasn't responding in an attempt at a "got you" just as to why I think these statistics are useful. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/06/21 11:59 AM |
| 3 | Child homicide perpetrators worldwide: a systematic review (Article Link in Reply)I get where you're coming from... Personally, when I use these statistics it is not to say: Look at how bad women are It's more to use as a point of reference namely: We don't discuss child homicide as a gendered issue... Even though these are overwhelmingly done by women to boys. I don't necessarily believe it is, but using the logic that a crime being committed more by one gender makes it one. Seems that this fits the criteria but I'd be rightly called mad/sexist for suggesting such a thing. I… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/06/21 11:38 AM |
| 1 | How Conservative Lawmakers Hurt Men2016 election is the one where we have evidence of their meddling, not 2020. Why would they meddle in the 2016 election and not the 2020 Election? Has the evidence actually shown cause and effect, or has it just shown that Russian attempted to meddle in some way? Is the lack of evidence a lack of meddling, or merely a lack of caring when it isn't about Trump. I don't like Trump, but I do think the media was using the dislike of him to generate ratings. Russia just seems like a convenient excuse.… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/04/21 08:03 AM |
| 1 | How Conservative Lawmakers Hurt MenI don't understand should we not be wary of a country that consistently wages cyber warfare on us and annexes any territory it thinks it can get away with and sabotages our elections? I don't know... I haven't got the full context of what the person your replying to commented and I'm not trying to be deliberately contrarian. I don't like the Russian government and I think they did try to influence the election. There is just a couple of points of consideration I'd like to raise. Is the influence… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/04/21 11:15 PM |
| 3 | why do feminists tell men to call out people who are doing sexually inappropriate thingsI mean women rapists (or even criminals) because that's what they are, overwhelmingly get treated with more leniency. That bias is real. Whilst their one example doesn't prove that, your one example doesn't disprove that. You're also wrong about men not experiencing rape: [1], [[2](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/female-child-sex-offenders-more-common-than-you-think/]. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13691058.2014.989265 Here's some things I wanted… | /r/MensRights | 25/03/21 11:35 PM |
| 2 | I feel like this is necessary, as a female I’m sorry to men.Thank you for your kind words. I don't disagree with any point you have made. I believe you when you say you don't mind and I don't think we should be measuring trauma at all. Feminist rhetoric does seem to reinforce this but (I know some feminists and) I don't think a lot of them realise that this is what they are doing. They think that violence against women is in its own category. I believe it is completely wrong to look at it this way and encourages prejudice thinking but it is important to … | /r/MensRights | 25/03/21 02:14 PM |
| 5 | I feel like this is necessary, as a female I’m sorry to men.Wow... This isn't your fault, but for some reason your reply had me crying. I have seen the state of things and people I know jump on the "Men need to do better bandwagon." I don't want women to be assaulted on the streets (as I don't want men to be) and I don't want men to be collectively blamed (as I wouldn't want women to be). I love the people in my life, I would and have taken actions to keep them safe. I don't even care that some of them are feminists with this kind of mindset. I love them… | /r/MensRights | 24/03/21 10:48 PM |
| 9 | I feel like this is necessary, as a female I’m sorry to men.I think it is appreciated but no apology required. I don't care what your opinion has been. No one is bad for remaining quiet. The atmosphere is terrifying. You are not to blame and you don't have to feel guilty. If you feel brave enough to speak out against it, great! You're already steps ahead of others. Men, women... Me... I only talk about my opinions to close friends/family and on reddit. I just don't want to touch the tribal shit show it has become. I work for a "progressive" company. To s… | /r/MensRights | 24/03/21 09:27 PM |
| 2 | The response to Davina McCall's defense of men is dishearteningI didn't know this but it really doesn't surprise me (for some reason or other)... | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/03/21 09:04 PM |
| 8 | Left-Wing Male Advocates SubDo you mean the sub-reddit? I have found that it is quite critical of feminism. This does not seem true to me, are you sure you aren't talking about menslib? | /r/MensRights | 24/03/21 01:23 PM |
| 2 | How on earth can people find a partner when there are not only less opportunities to meet people of the other sex, but also less and less opportunities are considered appropriate?All of those would be good. Until society / women undergo a demographic shift of that kind, I'd say we're likelier to have more of an impact changing our own behaviour to optimise for our own situation first. I don't particularly disagree with anything you're saying. From here, I'm just musing (not necessarily focusing on anything specific you said). I do agree the most important changes come from the individual. It is not always productive (or particularly healthy for the individual) to blame s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/03/21 12:05 PM |
| 3 | Left-Wing Male Advocates SubThanks again! It's interesting I completely missed this. I frequent the sub quite a bit, so I feel I should have seen something about it. | /r/MensRights | 24/03/21 11:47 AM |
| 3 | Left-Wing Male Advocates SubThank you! What does that entail exactly? What's the issue with the new admin? Are they known for shutting down men's issues for example? | /r/MensRights | 24/03/21 11:43 AM |
| 5 | How on earth can people find a partner when there are not only less opportunities to meet people of the other sex, but also less and less opportunities are considered appropriate?I agree but would point out that men are expected to be the instigators (generally). In this regard, a socially awkward man is more disadvantaged than a socially awkward woman. So, you have a man, trying to talk to women who might be genuinely harmless but comes across as creepy because they don't know how to manage that situation. Of course, they may have to learn but the best way of doing that is to practice. Note, I am not talking about people who actually sexually harass but people who might… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/03/21 10:21 AM |
| 1 | How on earth can people find a partner when there are not only less opportunities to meet people of the other sex, but also less and less opportunities are considered appropriate?The bulk of women are not ok with being hit on in public. Could this be argued to be a generalisation? It works for a lot of people. I get if someone is busy or is talking to someone else, it can be quite rude but I would need to see a Citation on this because I looked for research and couldn't find any. I will continue to look. I could imagine that women who are vocal about this online are against it. It's like where some women say "You shouldn't date someone from work". I've still seen plenty … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/03/21 06:35 AM |
| 8 | The response to Davina McCall's defense of men is dishearteningI don't know why you got ignored. I think you have hit the nail on the head. It is differing perspectives. I have a friend who is a feminist. She categorises it as the latter, me the former. I recognise there may be differing motivations behind it, but all crimes can have different motives. It doesn't necessarily put them in different categories. I also disagree that men are never targeted for being men. Women can be attacked for being rejected more often but men can also be attacked because som… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/03/21 09:36 PM |
| 1 | But WhatAbout... Why Whataboutism is not Inherently Fallacious and How This Applies to Current Discourse:I have looked all over and see no arguments here. I even used a magnifying glass. Just assertions. Ironically, you have used the begging the question fallacy here... Whatabout is absolutely bullshit and a fallacy. Period. Whataboutism is a fallacy because you have asserted it is a fallacy. I agree using whataboutism to deflect to an unrelated topic is a fallacy. Whataboutism to bring up a valid point of comparison isn't. You sound exactly like all the right wing tools when you say stupid ass shi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/03/21 06:06 PM |
| 3 | Losing female friends because you believe in men's rights.Good question! It's hard to answer because there are potentially infinite ways of interpreting the word "feminism". I would say that the majority of feminists are good people. I am friends with feminists who know I disagree heavily with some of their positions. Having said that, I would say some prominent theories (like Patriarch theory and toxic masculinity) have some majorly sexist undertones and do encourage a tribal mindset that isn't healthy for the person with the mindset or society as a w… | /r/MensRights | 19/03/21 06:38 PM |
| 6 | Losing female friends because you believe in men's rights.I don't know. I don't particularly think that you shouldn't be friends with someone just because they have a different worldview. It's more of they use that world view to treat you like shit where it becomes a problem. It's perfectly valid to agree to disagree. I know plenty of people who are feminists, and whilst I think they support a toxic ideology, I can empathise with their reasons for doing so. Especially if they have suffered and they genuinely think it is the best way of helping people. … | /r/MensRights | 19/03/21 01:36 PM |
| 7 | Leader of the UK Labour Party claims the majority of violent crime is committed against women.The fact that it champions compassion and wants to include all victims? Oh yes, because anyone who points out clear double standards and the use of the nadir fallacy/stereotyping being acceptable when done against men. A fallacy that is rightfully pointed to as outrageous when done to other groups. Not everyone who points this out is an incel. You're just being cruel and dismissive because in reality, you probably have no other arguments. In truth compassion for people who do bad things is a par… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/21 07:05 AM |
| 2 | This is What Struggling Young Boys Need... Not Collective Blame Against Men, but Compassion so They Don't Fall into Cycles of Abusive Behaviour. More info in comments.I agree that this is what is happening. I disagree that the rabbid feminists think this is what they're doing. In their mind, they do think it is positive change. It is just that in the long run it is likely to do a lot of harm. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/21 03:42 PM |
| 5 | This is What Struggling Young Boys Need... Not Collective Blame Against Men, but Compassion so They Don't Fall into Cycles of Abusive Behaviour. More info in comments.King Randall a 21 year old man decided to help boys who were struggling in his community. Someone gave me advice not to give my own opinion and let people decide. Soild advice. Unfortunately, I have chosen to ignore it in this instance. He did this by opening up his home, teaching young men to read and helping young offenders. All of which, had zero recidivism rates after coming to him. He is an absolutely phenomenal man and he has done so much for young boys. Here is my favourite quote (from th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/03/21 01:07 PM |
| 12 | I'm sorry if this is off topic. But what is with other men's subs on reddit being more concerned with maintaining the image of feminism than with the lived experiences of men?Do you think this is true? Or maybe you think that these are the two extremes and there is a happy medium? Not who you were asking but I wanted to answer this question (although I touched on this above). There are exceptions of course but in general men and women have more empathy for women and more disdain for men. This does translate into inherently unfair treatment of maligned men. It results in men getting blamed as a whole. That's not to say that biases against women don't exist. The same b… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/03/21 06:16 PM |
| 21 | I'm sorry if this is off topic. But what is with other men's subs on reddit being more concerned with maintaining the image of feminism than with the lived experiences of men?I don't want to but I admit that I think you're right. Apart from a small handful of people online, no one really gives a shit. It doesn't matter that certain feminist policies (or even policies in general) are harming men. It doesn't matter that certain crimes are unnecessarily gendered, and male victims ignored. People can push and push but at the very least they'll be handwaved away and at most they will be ridiculed and debased. Neither women nor men care about men who have suffered. The maj… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/03/21 04:56 PM |
| 6 | Which men are perpetrating violence against women that makes them scared to go out at night?I laugh to keep from crying. Then cry anyway. | /r/MensRights | 17/03/21 09:53 AM |
| 2 | But WhatAbout... Why Whataboutism is not Inherently Fallacious and How This Applies to Current Discourse:I'm completely with you. It's hard to talk about these things because it is so divisive when it doesn't really need to be. It is possible to simultaneously think that it is unfair for women to deal with sexual harassment and that it is also unfair that men should be vilified. These aren't diametrically opposed positions, yet they are treated as such. I think it is worse online but misandry is definitely prominent in some institutions. Erin Prizzey springs to mind. The woman responsible for the f… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/03/21 10:48 PM |
| 2 | But WhatAbout... Why Whataboutism is not Inherently Fallacious and How This Applies to Current Discourse:It seems like you might even be more certain than I am on this point. I er on the side of it being rather pointless but I realise that some issues can potentially be beneficial to gender. I think there has to be a strong case for it though. An obvious example would be if there is law that is clearly unfair to one gender over another. I don't think this a common occurrence though. I wanted to touch on something you said: You summed it up more succinctly than I ever could. I don't butt into conver… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/03/21 08:55 PM |
| 7 | But WhatAbout... Why Whataboutism is not Inherently Fallacious and How This Applies to Current Discourse:What makes an issue gendered? This is rather contingent on whether or not one believes abuse on the street is a gendered issue. When we talk about knife crime (UK) we don't talk about which groups it affects most. We don't do this for burglaries. Even though these are overwhelmingly done by men. We don't do this for muggings. Even though these are overwhelmingly done by men We don't do this for child homicide. . Even though these are overwhelmingly done by women to boys. I don't necessarily beli… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/03/21 06:57 PM |
| 2 | But WhatAbout... Why Whataboutism is not Inherently Fallacious and How This Applies to Current Discourse:That's okay. I wasn't sure if you were agreeing with me or not. It seemed like you were but sometimes points get lost in translation. I tried to approach your comment in a neutral way to avoid making a judgement either way. I guess it didn't work 😂... | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/03/21 02:32 PM |
| 5 | But WhatAbout... Why Whataboutism is not Inherently Fallacious and How This Applies to Current Discourse:Fair enough. I'll just address one point you made: . I think it's important to note that for some people 'whataboutery' is used in a way which in practice means 'we can talk about your experiences and then complain when you try and correct the record'. I'm not sure what you mean by this. If you mean that when some people use whatabourey in conversation, they mean that the only reason they are bringing up another group is to dismiss them. For example, "there's issue with border control in America… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/03/21 02:29 PM |
| 5 | But WhatAbout... Why Whataboutism is not Inherently Fallacious and How This Applies to Current Discourse:Interesting and I agree. I don't think it detracts from my post though. Your interpretation doesn't diametrically oppose mine, nor mine yours (as near as I can tell). It makes sense to include men as a metric of comparison and it is also true that when it is discussed the onus is often put on men in different ways. I don't think these positions contradict each other: For example when a woman or man states: Men don't feel scared in public (your example) Or Men have a responsibility to do better (… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/03/21 02:11 PM |
| 5 | But WhatAbout... Why Whataboutism is not Inherently Fallacious and How This Applies to Current Discourse:For instance, women complaining about sexual harassment. If a man says but what about me? I also was sexually harassed! Women will say who cares! Shut up with your “whataboutism”. But if a man complains about sexual harassment in a men’s only forum, women will never see it so they can go on pretending it doesn’t happen. I touched on a similar point in a recent post I made. I didn't mention it here because I didn't think it matched my specific critique of claiming whataboutism. To put it into con… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/03/21 01:52 PM |
| 3 | But WhatAbout... Why Whataboutism is not Inherently Fallacious and How This Applies to Current Discourse:This is a fair critique. I'm looking at some of my conclusions now and I don't think they are entirely accurate (though I will maintain the general gist of it is). Thank you so much for the feedback! Otherwise, would you say it is generally accurate? Are there any innacuracies that you think could do with some extra consideration? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/03/21 01:30 PM |
| 3 | But WhatAbout... Why Whataboutism is not Inherently Fallacious and How This Applies to Current Discourse:I think you misunderstand my point. I was talking in terms of the fallacy, the focus on the aggressors in terms of representing a group can not be counteracted with logic because it is not a logical statement. There are many studies that counteract this claim, but as long as someone holds the opinion that because it is majority male perpetrators then it is up to men to solve it. Then no research will dispute the claim even if it does. I should have made this clearer. Edit: I have edited the post… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/03/21 12:40 PM |
| 26 | FSW #yesallmen is love. #yesallmen is life.Not all black people are criminals, some are criminal apologists, some make rap about crime, some victim blame and some keep quiet. | /r/FeminismStopsWhen | 15/03/21 07:18 PM |
| 3 | I never hid things because I was taught to "man up" or "not show emotions". What I found was that other people just didn't care and didn't want to help.This is a good point. We get so stuck on the terms that the debates merely become about semantics. Bitterness ensues and the actual issues are never discussed. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/03/21 05:01 PM |
| 7 | I never hid things because I was taught to "man up" or "not show emotions". What I found was that other people just didn't care and didn't want to help.I wonder if this could all be considered toxic masculinity? This is the definition I have found: a set of attitudes and ways of behaving stereotypically associated with or expected of men, regarded as having a negative impact on men and on society as a whole. I've never personally thought that toxic masculinity doesn't exist, but I do have issue with how it is often missaplied and how we don't seem to have a consistent ways of measuring its impacts on society as a whole (sort of like Patriarchy … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/03/21 04:25 PM |
| 5 | The murder of a woman in the UK has caused outrage on social media producing a hate campaign against men, many stats and ideas were presented so I decided to have a closer look, here's what I found:Not according to wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide_statistics_by_gender In fact, western or not, the vast majority of countries shows that the majority of murder victims are men. I know its Wikipedia, but it wouldn't surprise me. | /r/MensRights | 14/03/21 09:15 AM |
| 1 | The murder of a woman in the UK has caused outrage on social media producing a hate campaign against men, many stats and ideas were presented so I decided to have a closer look, here's what I found:How can anyone come to solid conclusions of this report. We have no idea how they sampled the data, and there has been no opportunity for peer review. It is not a data point that we can currently use as a basis for anything | /r/MensRights | 14/03/21 09:10 AM |
| 6 | Before even knowing about this group, I started on a little mission. And because of this group, I realize that my mission might be pretty important. Will you help support it?Yeah, I'll listen to anyone me. I'll give your videos a watch and if I like them, I'll subscribe! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/03/21 09:41 PM |
| 13 | What is the perception of men's advocacy amongst queer (LGBT+) people?I am a gay man (and one of the top comments in the linked conversation by OP) and have found the swing back towards homo/bi-phobia by the so-called Woke crowd disturbing. This is what I don't understand about the woke crowd. It seems adamant on focusing on rights as a group phenomenon. The problem being is when one "oppressed" groups rights come into conflict with another. How do you then define which is correct? I'm pro gay marriage and adoption, but from the point of view of individual rights.… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/21 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Aquaman 2: Amber Heard Firing Confirmed And Her Replacement Is Emilia Clarke - if this is true, it's amazing news.No. It is not. All this means is that Cancel culture is gaining more traction. I'm glad that a double standard is getting addressed, but I didn't want Johnny or Amber to lose their job until they had been tried as a criminal in a court of law. All this does though is reinforce that cancel culture is okay as long as it is done to the "right" people. | /r/MensRights | 22/02/21 09:15 AM |
| 7 | The lie of male suicideStudies have shown that the intensity to which we feel emotions has no objective metric They needed studies to show this? | /r/MensRights | 18/02/21 07:12 AM |
| 5 | 'Lovable rogue', 26, killed himself after being falsely accused of rape and feared 'rapist title would never go away'It may be you didn't have the right therapist/councilor/psychiatrist. I went through a couple before I found the right person to help me. | /r/MensRights | 17/02/21 11:16 AM |
| 4 | How can women help to address men's issues while still addressing their own?I think it is very telling that the person you responded to defined "society and women*, where in this very thread there is plenty of research to suggest that men are likely to perpetuate these negative Stereotypes as well. These issue are not a man vs woman issue. To claim so is to make the same argument as feminists with nothing substantial to back it up. I disagree with the notion that men are responsible for the bad actions of other men by virtue of genitalia and by extension this is the cas… | /r/MensRights | 04/02/21 10:33 AM |
| 5 | Have I been using "SJW" wrong?Yup the ANTI-SJW can be pretty cringe. Stare long enough into the abyss, it stares back. I actually find SJW a bit useless as a term. Being ANIT-SJW basically makes someone anti-people based on a group, this is the sort of ideology that creates Tribalism. Then you start seeing the enemy everywhere (even in places where they aren't). I'm anti specific ideas (for instance, I'm anit-communism but I'm not anti-communist). The focus then isn't on the people. I have some heavy disagreement/critiques o… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/02/21 12:39 AM |
| 9 | Men who believe that masculinity is toxic or harmful have lower self-esteem and worse metal health than men who embrace their masculinity and see it as a good thingI think the problem is that it isn't and furthermore it is poorly defined even within that metric. What elements of Masculinity are due to gendered social norms, are we so sure of their impact on toxic behaviours in lieu of other variables. Multiple studies I have seen on it have defined it in wildly different ways, to the point where I'm really not sure what the standard measurea for it are. For instance, men go to the doctors less because they are socialised to think it is less manly. Probably… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/01/21 11:35 PM |
| 15 | Female Masculinities Scholar discusses Sherlock Holmes' "toxic masculinity". Can't resist making bizarre comparison to Trump, and conflating the character's thoughts on emotions with his view of women.She doesn't even use the term properly, it's meant to refer to societal expectations on how men should act, not toxic men. This is why people have a problem with the term. Do social pressures have an effect on how men act? Most likely, although it is only one variable and I don't believe we have enough information to unpack the extent of the impact. The inherent vagueness of the theory means it is subject to many different definitions with little indication of how to measure it. Even studies hav… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/20 11:55 AM |
| 12 | The term "toxic masculinity" is hateful. people never use it to help men but always to demonize and degrade men and boys. stop making excuses about the use of it.I would say that you are correct, but I think a better term to use as an example would be "toxic blackness". I believe the negative connotation of the term is also a factor in how it gets misused and drives a fearful/hateful reaction. I also don't believe that "toxic masculinity" is the cause of all discrepancies (or all violence toward women). Sometimes it is just the behaviour of individuals and other factors. Sometimes the discrepancies aren't so wide as our perceptions. Just my two cents. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/20 11:15 AM |
| 1 | How feminism hurt men.The liberal quality of feminism is one of its biggest lies. It's also its greatest strength, unfortunately. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/10/20 06:49 PM |
| 1 | How feminism hurt men.I'm not sure that separating people into groups was ever a good idea. The logical conclusion of intersectionality is individualism but that has become a dirty word in critical social justice circles. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/10/20 06:48 PM |
| 3 | If you fully reject all Critical Theory, do you have to declare yourself non-leftist?I begrudge a lot of the racial CT stuff, because it's bald racism. If a person is such a sheep that they'll swallow overt racism, just because it's superficially dressed as leftism I think the problem here is that unless you are aware of the underlying theory, it's not always obvious it is overt racism. Believe me, I get it but it's no surprise that people don't often get it. I used to be angry (about two years ago, I was in you position) but it doesn't seem fair to judge people for not knowing … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/10/20 06:46 PM |
| 1 | How feminism hurt men.I'm not sure this is true, everything is considered a gendered issue which is why you tend to see feminists online mainly talking in these terms. Feminists do tend to be left-wing however (there is atleast a considerable overlap), so they probably do support class based solutions it just isn't always the topic of the debate. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/10/20 02:14 PM |
| 4 | If you fully reject all Critical Theory, do you have to declare yourself non-leftist?I think that CT is a clever ideology. It uses old Liberal concepts and ascribes them new (twisted)meaning. The strongest proponents of it tend to be hardcore believers, whereas the general public agree with it because it uses positive terms (like anti-racism, diversity, equality etc). I don't think it is anti-leftwing to be in opposition to a lot of its ideas but it is tantalising in the fact that it has grown from positive changes in the past. This makes it easy to label any critique as racist,… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/10/20 02:57 PM |
| 5 | Study finds that women are at an advantage in most countries.Gold. Thank you! | /r/MensRights | 30/09/20 02:31 PM |
| 13 | Study finds that women are at an advantage in most countries.Want me to list anymore? Not OP, but please do. I want to see what else you've got. | /r/MensRights | 30/09/20 10:25 AM |
| 3 | Executive Order on Combating Race and Sex Stereotyping | The White HouseTo add to what this person has been saying... It is possible to admit that racism exists (whether it is imbedded in the system is a different matter). It is possible to admit that historical injustices have contributed to these outcomes (although the constraints of history aren't necessarily the same as today). But... It is a leap in logic to state that racism is (directly) the main contributer/or even heavily contributing to the disparities we see today. No where in history has general discrimi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/09/20 03:46 PM |
| 2 | Feminists caught with their hands in the cookie jar- $51 million dollars goes unaccounted for in Florida's Women's Domestic Shelters. Corrupt board of directors could face jail time.Capitalism is a pyramid scheme designed to funnel wealth to the top. If this were the only aspect of Capatilism, I'd agree with you. The entirety of human history has people with more resources than others. Capatilism is just a by product of that. At least capitalism provides the means for start up businesses and gives the public some control with where it spends its money. It manages human greed in the way it matches consumer demand. Is it perfect, no? But I never said it was. People at the top… | /r/MensRights | 16/09/20 03:36 PM |
| 2 | Feminists caught with their hands in the cookie jar- $51 million dollars goes unaccounted for in Florida's Women's Domestic Shelters. Corrupt board of directors could face jail time.Incidentally, this is the same argument I use in terms of capitalism. Some people aren't selfish, greed or power hungry because we developed capitalism. We developed capitalism because some people have the aforementioned traits and it is the best system for managing them. That's not to say we can't do more to alleviate current issues within the system, but we're limited within certain constraints. | /r/MensRights | 16/09/20 02:58 PM |
| 17 | Women's toxic expectations and standards for men in dating is fueling misogyny in younger men. And nobody wants to talk about it.This sort of dichotomous messaging is exactly why a lot of men are confused. On one hand there is the constant narrative that the reason men are more violent (in general) is because society has taught them to bottle up their emotions. The so called "toxic masculinity", to use the popular term (I don't think it's as simple as this, but that is the narrative). It is often said that this is an issue with society when people argue its relevance. Then you have the narrative along the lines of what yo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/20 07:43 AM |
| 1 | Hey - So, I saw a post on potential sex differences in behaviour and thought I'd share a detailed post I wrote around five months ago. Thought people might find it interesting.Off the top of my head Kaite Bouman. Where even she stated her contribution was overstated. You don't have to believe me, but all this narrative against women is overstated and in my opinion is propoganda. Don't let fear rule you. It is lies. They are pervasive and convincing lies but lies none the less. Women are not held back in current society other than the fact that they are consistently told that society is holding them back. This is the greatest threat against women today, they're treated… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/08/20 12:55 AM |
| 2 | Hey - So, I saw a post on potential sex differences in behaviour and thought I'd share a detailed post I wrote around five months ago. Thought people might find it interesting.TBH, the notion of male privilege and Matilda effect has been psyche-gnawing to me. This is one of my main problems both these ideas. I definitely think women have been sidelined in some instances, and this has had an impact on today. I don't believe this is the case today though. Women are getting the credit they deserve more now (and in some instances, I think it has gone the other way). Biases do shift over time though (see figure 3). My problem with these messages is that the world has chang… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/08/20 01:09 PM |
| 2 | Hey - So, I saw a post on potential sex differences in behaviour and thought I'd share a detailed post I wrote around five months ago. Thought people might find it interesting.You think your sex inhibits you? This is one thing I don't agree with... For one, these are just trends that speak nothing to an individual and nothing in the research suggests that any sex is more competent than another, the differences are more subtle than that. For example, take extraversion both men and women are extraverted. Men are more likely to be extraverted in the sense that they are more likely to speak their mind in adverse situations, women are more likely to be extraverted in the s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/08/20 04:27 PM |
| 2 | Hey - So, I saw a post on potential sex differences in behaviour and thought I'd share a detailed post I wrote around five months ago. Thought people might find it interesting.> A] sex differences in multiple types of intelligence Not OP, but it's bollocks. There's some debate about the more extreme deviations but women and men have equal amounts of intelligence on average. > B] neuroplasticity True to a certain extent, but has limits based within human biology. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/08/20 12:45 PM |
| 20 | Society has normalised women treating men like shitSociety has normalised women everyone treating men like shit. Fixed it. | /r/MensRights | 05/08/20 09:54 PM |
| 1 | Hey - So, I saw a post on potential sex differences in behaviour and thought I'd share a detailed post I wrote around five months ago. Thought people might find it interesting.Basically this. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/07/20 12:05 AM |
| 7 | Hey - So, I saw a post on potential sex differences in behaviour and thought I'd share a detailed post I wrote around five months ago. Thought people might find it interesting.I think it's a bit of a misnomer, I think it's Nature and Nurture and the degrees to which they intersect depend largely on what you're talking about. Things like women being more empathetic than men isn't really the right kind of question. How men and women demonstrate empathy is. This is just an example and I could be wrong... For instance, men tend to take a more active approach to their empathy. They tend to be more focused on what they can do to help, if they don't think there's anything to… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/07/20 08:31 PM |
| 2 | "Nurture Alone Can't Explain Male Aggression"I've just posted a full breakdown in a post on this sub if you're interested. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/07/20 08:24 PM |
| 4 | Hey - So, I saw a post on potential sex differences in behaviour and thought I'd share a detailed post I wrote around five months ago. Thought people might find it interesting.Here is a collection of sources and my own personal insight into the topic... There has been some debate as to how much culture has an impact on gendered behaviour. I believe culture does have an impact, but so does biology. Our understanding is limited, but data suggests there are consistencies across cultures and certain ideas to reduce these differences have had limited impact on overall trends in behaviour. I do think certain trends are always going to exist, that doesn't mean we can't mitig… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/07/20 07:27 PM |
| 6 | "Nurture Alone Can't Explain Male Aggression"Short answer... We don't rightly know, only that it is consistent across cultures. We have a pretty big indication that sex based differences exist, the line between where nature ends and Nurture begins is blurred. I personally think it's both is the only logical answer. I would say our main difference in traits comes from mating habits. I think nurture can interrupt or counteract biology but I don't think this is an absolute and I think every individual is different as to what nurture cues they… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/07/20 05:31 PM |
| 5 | Cultural misandry.Ah, I see. I agree mainly with what you say. I don't know how helpful gynocentrism will be long term, like Patriarchy it has the potential to far out live it's usefulness and I think can be easily misapplied. We should be moving away from gendered terms, in my opinion. I did misunderstand your initial post (sorry about that) and would say you are correct. Terms like misandry and misogyny are emotionally charged and encourage tribalism/division when overused. This is part of the problem in the fi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/07/20 09:30 AM |
| 3 | Cultural misandry.I think this is it. The bias exists but it would be much more beneficial as a solution to focus on rehabilitation in general rather than add an unnecessarily gendered aspect to it. Unless of course, your in say London England, where courts have been specifically instructed to not put women who commit minor crimes in prison (a courtesy not extended to men). Then there's evidence of overt discrimination, which is a lot easier to resolve than anything using Implicit bias as a metric. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/07/20 09:14 AM |
| 8 | Cultural misandry.The research is building that society is (in some aspects) biased in favour of women: https://quillette.com/2020/07/27/the-myth-of-pervasive-misogyny/ https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2016-40631-003 I agree I don't think it is all of society, but would argue its (currently) more pervasive. I don't think that we should be using disparities to measure it, but focus mainly on one-sided policies that ultimately ignore confounding information. In terms of Implicit bias, it is impossible to focus on dir… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/07/20 09:09 AM |
| 1 | Progress is possible. I spoke up at a union meeting about paid paternity leave, got a groundswell of support, and now it's on the negotiating table for next year.Optimism doesn't necessarily help by itself either. Some things we can't control, some things we can. Pessimism doesn't have to be defeatist, it just means to be realistic in our expectations. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/20 07:12 PM |
| 6 | Progress is possible. I spoke up at a union meeting about paid paternity leave, got a groundswell of support, and now it's on the negotiating table for next year.It really is, they see it as opposed to gender roles... I work in a feminist centric workplace, and the most die hard feminists you can imagine was pushing this for IMD. It doesn't matter, good ideas are good ideas but I do think it is false to put this under progress for men's rights specifically. Although it is certainly good progress and OP might have meant this. Edit: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/417708/ | /r/MensRights | 26/07/20 11:15 PM |
| 6 | Progress is possible. I spoke up at a union meeting about paid paternity leave, got a groundswell of support, and now it's on the negotiating table for next year.That's only if you think the pessimism isn't often warranted. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/20 11:12 PM |
| 4 | Progress is possible. I spoke up at a union meeting about paid paternity leave, got a groundswell of support, and now it's on the negotiating table for next year.It's not that it shouldn't be. It's just that it's a relatively agreeable position. That doesn't change the fact that there are a lot of MRA positions that are diametrically opposed by some very influential feminist organisations. I'd love for feminists and MRAs to work together as I believe inherently splitting issues along gendered lines encourages Tribalism, which is detrimental to positive progress. We absolutely should celebrate where feminists and MRAs intersect, but the point is that this… | /r/MensRights | 26/07/20 11:12 PM |
| 5 | Progress is possible. I spoke up at a union meeting about paid paternity leave, got a groundswell of support, and now it's on the negotiating table for next year.Good news but feminists tend to be for paid paternity leave anyway. They think it will encourage women to work more. Not to say that we shouldn't try to focus on where MRAs and feminists agree. It's just out of all the Men's Rights concerns it's one of the most agreeable ones. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/20 11:07 PM |
| 5 | People's Take on Gender Inequality (According to Pew). What Do People Think? My Hot Take in the Comments.I find this interesting. I wonder how this gels with the concept that most people are anti-PC culture. At least according to this report: https://hiddentribes.us/ I don't think most people research too deeply into progressive theory, I think people are only able to come at it from the level they understand it. Most people (allegedly) say they're against PC culture, yet this is exactly what is argued to be a detriment to women. I personally don't believe the pay gap is caused by harassment (altho… | /r/MensRights | 16/07/20 10:00 PM |
| 12 | The tide is turning against the misandrists ? men's rights march in london.When? Where? | /r/MensRights | 16/07/20 09:57 PM |
| 2 | So it’s not rape when a female does it? Some feminists are messed up.I think that while most feminists might disagree with this person, it really doesn't matter. There is limited scope to disagree publicly and there are feminists in positions of power who have been directly harmful to boys, men, girls and women without any consequence. The mere ideology of modern feminism (Patriarchy theory) is an extremist mindset that fosters opportunistic assholes to take control. Its an ideology that plays on all the same mechanisms as extremist ideologies have in the past. U… | /r/MensRights | 25/06/20 07:51 AM |
| 53 | Equality For All (But More For Women)All genders are equal but some genders are more equal than others. | /r/MensRights | 01/06/20 08:59 PM |
| 1 | I'm so sick of hearing everyone talk about how wrong it is that the police disproportionately target black people while refusing to talk about the fact that police disproportionately target men.They get it more per capita yes, but it's not as simple as saying it is purely driven by racism. Black people commit more violent crime per capita as well (not due to the fact they're black but down to impoverished conditions). A constant cycle of violence and fear is reinforcing negativity and bias. It is not as simple as saying the police need to do better. They're human too and when they live within these conditions no amount of training is going to remove those preconceptions. I think there … | /r/MensRights | 01/06/20 06:19 PM |
| 1 | I'm so sick of hearing everyone talk about how wrong it is that the police disproportionately target black people while refusing to talk about the fact that police disproportionately target men.I'm clarifying the statement because the way it was worded is objectively wrong. I know what you meant, but it's not 15% of the population commuting crime. Black people aren't some monolith. It's wrong because it's individuals not the group. You can say that black people are disproportionately represented in violent crime statistics but it is not 15% of the population. That's a generalisation regardless of how you meant it and is entirely unhelpful. The biggest victims of violent crimes by black… | /r/MensRights | 01/06/20 07:42 AM |
| 2 | I'm so sick of hearing everyone talk about how wrong it is that the police disproportionately target black people while refusing to talk about the fact that police disproportionately target men.I'd be interested to see what black person has been targeted for 400 years. They must have a hell of a diet to be so long lived. | /r/MensRights | 01/06/20 07:29 AM |
| 1 | I'm so sick of hearing everyone talk about how wrong it is that the police disproportionately target black people while refusing to talk about the fact that police disproportionately target men.https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/ I think it's a bit rich to say this when more white people are shot/killed year on year. They just don't get the coverage in the news. (because more votes and less divisive) Yeah, not sure this is accurate... Playing identity group politics is always divisive and wrong. Police brutality is definitely a problem but it goes way beyond racism (even though this is definitely a factor in some instances). | /r/MensRights | 01/06/20 07:28 AM |
| 1 | I'm so sick of hearing everyone talk about how wrong it is that the police disproportionately target black people while refusing to talk about the fact that police disproportionately target men.For smaller offences maybe, kinda hard to say violent crimes statistics are meaningless though. | /r/MensRights | 01/06/20 07:21 AM |
| 7 | I'm so sick of hearing everyone talk about how wrong it is that the police disproportionately target black people while refusing to talk about the fact that police disproportionately target men.I think the point went over your head somewhat. | /r/MensRights | 01/06/20 07:19 AM |
| 2 | I'm so sick of hearing everyone talk about how wrong it is that the police disproportionately target black people while refusing to talk about the fact that police disproportionately target men.No it's not, it's committed by a small portion of 15% of the population and that's only because that portion of the population are more likely to be in poverty. | /r/MensRights | 01/06/20 07:16 AM |
| 16 | Twox is so hypocritical when it comes to male victimsI think (whole they can talk about what they want) that separating it out into male and female victims is flawed and I don't see much reason to do so. I have gone into this in other posts (with research) so I'm not going to bother being too detailed. I just want to point out that society in general is hyper focused on female victims and male victims are ignored. Even though the psychology of perpetrators and victims are similar, regardless of gender. It is my opinion that gendering this issue ha… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/05/20 07:34 AM |
| 1 | To any former right-wing men here? What won you over to the left?I'm glad it spoke to you. I don't know who you are but I love you. I wish you the power to be content and also strong in your temperament to others. You are powerful... It just comes down to what you do with that power. May you show compassion to those who might not deserve it as who are any of us to judge... Have a spectacular life. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/05/20 11:58 PM |
| 8 | To any former right-wing men here? What won you over to the left?This makes me sad. You'd think that people who have had lived esperiences with hate to be more aware of not spreading it onto others. It just goes to show that the mere act of standing against something bad is not the same as standing for something good. I think people get too wrapped up in thinking they're virtuous just because they aren't "the enemy". I think people have got to realise that we're all potentially dangerous. Moral zealotry doesn't make anyone inherently right. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/05/20 07:33 AM |
| 1 | The good ol’ “it’s okay to be sexist to men, but you can’t be sexist to women”. God I hate double standardsExactly! | /r/MensRights | 17/05/20 07:42 PM |
| 11 | The post on “twox” about male issues is one of the worst things I’ve seen on reddit.Just let the ladies rant. If men have that same place to go (and it isn't raided by hur durr mysogynists or trumpeters), they wouldn't be dealing with that. Which, to your point, is really showing their entitlement. Women ranting about individual dickbags being sexist is fine. For the sub to turn around and make every issue gendered and then complain about other people coming in to point out how they don't think it is by claiming they're derailing women's issues is where I take umbrage in this s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/05/20 02:38 PM |
| 1 | The good ol’ “it’s okay to be sexist to men, but you can’t be sexist to women”. God I hate double standardsOr they don't realise that even if they could gain power this way, it doesn't make them virtuous just because they are against something bad. | /r/MensRights | 17/05/20 09:52 AM |
| 6 | Some balance to how we look at historyWhy does it seem like all women were beaten by their husbands according to you? I think you're missing the point. There were still expectations placed on men, which I believe are still prevalent today: https://digpodcast-org.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/digpodcast.org/2018/02/25/coverture/amp/?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCCAE%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fdigpodcast.org%2F2018%2F02%2F25%2Fcoverture%2F When you talk about men holding all authority o… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/05/20 11:43 AM |
| 3 | "Women attempt suicide more" is misleadingI don't know how easy it is to get the data, the above took some digging but let me know if you do! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/05/20 05:55 AM |
| 3 | "Women attempt suicide more" is misleadingIntimate partner victims of murder. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/05/20 10:00 PM |
| 4 | "Women attempt suicide more" is misleadingThere's even the argument that most murders associated with DV happen in self defence. This is supported by the fact that 4 decades ago the murders of intimate partners by women was near parallel to murder of innocent partners by men: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htius.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjJ17eDmKnpAhVdRBUIHdWaAxIQFjAOegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw2p2O5yumIu5kVSibwr7sbV&cshid=1589110393856 1976 - 1,304 male victims to 1,587 female victims 1977 - 1,248 … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/05/20 08:39 PM |
| 1 | We're women truly oppressed throughout history?I would be interested to see sources. | /r/MensRights | 13/05/20 02:01 PM |
| 24 | CNN published an article trying to portray the handling of the pandemic as proof of female leadership superiority. (And then proceeded to contradict themselves within the first few paragraphs their own article.)It's more the fact it has less than 5,000,000 residents. Compared to an island like the UK which is slightly smaller than New Zealand and has 66,000,000 people. It's almost like using New Zealand as a direct comparison is a disingenuous measurement. | /r/MensRights | 08/05/20 06:24 AM |
| 6 | Even more evidence against Amber Heard. New audio hears Heard slamming Depps head in a door!I'm sorry, that doesn't compute with my feminist programming. | /r/MensRights | 18/03/20 09:44 PM |
| 7 | Even more evidence against Amber Heard. New audio hears Heard slamming Depps head in a door!BUt WHaT dId JOhnNY DEpP dO To DEseRVe it! | /r/MensRights | 18/03/20 06:59 PM |
| 8 | Feminism stops when it's time to clean up the mess you just made.But they're giving the women work, probably overtime... Fighting the pay gap! Seems feminist to me. | /r/FeminismStopsWhen | 13/03/20 07:42 PM |
| 19 | FSW people start to look at the bigger pictureLow status men, pfft, like that's even a thing. WE liVE iN A PatRIarChY. | /r/FeminismStopsWhen | 13/03/20 08:41 AM |
| 6 | I’m scared of my futureTry not to let the fear rule you. I'm not going to say your life is going to be easy or that it's going to get better. What I will say is that while you have support in subs like this and hopefully some good friends, you can't rely on the wider society to have your back. It's scary the power women have over men in the courts but most women aren't out to get you. Support yourself, be your own friend and don't put too much expectations on others. Learn to be okay with your own company. Be free in … | /r/MensRights | 11/03/20 10:33 PM |
| 63 | “No man ever gets murdered because they are a man...”Yours isn't? Seems you didn't fill out your Patriarchy form properly. I would take you through it but I'm too busy with all the privilege, money and status I get sent. As a man, I can obviously speak for every man and say we have it pretty easy. Just learn to complete forms, bro. | /r/MensRights | 11/03/20 10:23 PM |
| 2 | Women need to understand that being anti man does not make you pro woman.This is how these things usually start. I think the evils of feminism were always there but it had real tangible issues to focus on and so it was achieving good things at first. Now it has morphed into pure identity politics, where it raises real issues that it is ill equipped to deal with. I still consider myself a feminist to some extent. I'm just unsure that the label is helpful anymore. I do think men's issues are largely ignored and we could do more with treating a lot of these gendered iss… | /r/MensRights | 11/03/20 05:44 PM |
| 3 | Women need to understand that being anti man does not make you pro woman.I think the difference is that feminism has more resources and institutional power than MRAs. I agree with you that a lot of feminists do just want equality (or what they perceive to be equality), and I wouldn't hate any one person for being a feminist. In the same vein, I wouldn't hate anyone anyway. I will concede that there are toxic MRAs and I also think some theories on this end (while true to some extent) would be flawed on an epistemological level (gyneocentrism for instance). I honestly … | /r/MensRights | 11/03/20 08:03 AM |
| 1 | When someone brings up no recognition of international mens day they got siwnvoted into oblivion. Equality?Psst... Me too. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/20 10:01 PM |
| 39 | When someone brings up no recognition of international mens day they got siwnvoted into oblivion. Equality?This comes across as a joke... really. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/20 02:26 PM |
| 3 | Men need work in a way women don'tIn my country both acualisation is spelt with an "s" not z, so you need the American spelling to pull it off. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/20 02:23 PM |
| 14 | Happy Women’s day, women of men’s rights!I love the women in my life. I'm currently seeing someone who works so hard, and is a single mother to two children. She's been through a lot recently and even had to help a friend who's child committed suicide. I respect her for who she is and what she does (and I tell her this). Militant feminists would think me hateful of women, but all I want is for men to get the respect they deserve (when they deserve it) and the help they need. Like this woman who works hard and does not complain how soci… | /r/MensRights | 08/03/20 02:48 PM |
| 3 | The Women (Lyrics - Taylor Swift Parody)I have a mate who can potentially record it. We won't be able to do it to the same extent as the video on youtube but there's a chance we can do our own version. Edit: Can't promise anything. | /r/MensRights | 06/03/20 11:29 PM |
| 5 | The Women (Lyrics - Taylor Swift Parody)Thank you, so much. I'm glad you appreciated it. I would love to do more with it! I'll see what I can do. | /r/MensRights | 06/03/20 10:23 PM |
| 7 | Nine out of 10 people found to be biased against women | Global developmentI was working on a response to this. Ran out of time though, the stats are quite contradictory and in the actual report it doesn't detail who answered what. There are some interesting design choices. It groups Europe with Central Asia (interestingly) for instance. Here's a link to teh actual sutdy: http://hdr.undp.org/sites/default/files/hd_perspectives_gsni.pdf | /r/MensRights | 06/03/20 04:37 PM |
| 1 | Taylor Swift releases man-hating music video. It's the Gillette ad all over again...I mean, I don't really like the video but you could argue that's a reflection on "toxic masulinity" as a whole, that they are fragile and not as butch as they pretend to be. | /r/MensRights | 03/03/20 03:47 PM |
| 4 | Getting increasingly sad about how nobody cares about the depression and lonelines of menI've always been sensitive and suffered with mental health issues. It's ignored, it makes you seem weak and nobody wants to hear about it. I really struggle sometimes, but I only have a few friends that I can talk about it too. Most the time, no one really acknowledges it and it never gets any easier in that regard. The best thing a man can do is be his own source of respect. If people are put off by who your are (and you find it hard to change who you are, as I do) then be your own ally. Live f… | /r/MensRights | 03/03/20 03:12 PM |
| 1 | (Cross Post) Sex Based Differences Between Male and Female Psychology - A Review of Studies I have Gathered.That was misleading on my part. I meant the countries which have higher representation of women in STEM, these tend to have more artificial barriers against women in general. | /r/MensRights | 29/02/20 03:58 PM |
| 2 | (Cross Post) Sex Based Differences Between Male and Female Psychology - A Review of Studies I have Gathered.I think we might be talking past each other here. Our disagreement seems to be one of semantics rather than theory. I'm definitely partly at fault for this. I think the disconnect came in when you said: The more privileged women are, the less likely they are to enter STEM. I assumed you were talking about BIGI as referenced in the paragraph before. So I was only debating in this context: BIGI doesn't have anything to do with women's choices in STEM. Meet, my point. This was my only point. Bullsh… | /r/MensRights | 28/02/20 06:35 AM |
| 3 | (Cross Post) Sex Based Differences Between Male and Female Psychology - A Review of Studies I have Gathered.The differences in behaviour between Monkeys and humans are socially constructed./s | /r/MensRights | 28/02/20 05:37 AM |
| 2 | (Cross Post) Sex Based Differences Between Male and Female Psychology - A Review of Studies I have Gathered.You can 100% measure women's choices. There's no great mystery around women's choices. We've literally had that data for decades. BIGI isn't effective for measuring women's choices in STEM was my argument not that you can't measure women's choices in general. The authors of the study demonstrating the paradox even stated this. The GIGI only measures where women are disadvantaged. Any area where men are disadvantaged is considered equality. Exactly, it measure along the lines of women empowerment… | /r/MensRights | 27/02/20 03:33 PM |
| 6 | (Cross Post) Sex Based Differences Between Male and Female Psychology - A Review of Studies I have Gathered.The more privileged women are, the less likely they are to enter STEM. BIGI it does still state countries like: Great Britain, Netherlands and Sweden as better for women, but in all honesty it depends on how you measure it. (Using BIGI) Women are afforded more empathy and protection in those countries but less agency than men. It's not really possible to us BIGI to measure this, because it doesn't necessarily measure by women's capacity to choose. It more tries to use the human condition as meas… | /r/MensRights | 27/02/20 03:25 PM |
| 0 | woman claims boyfriend climbed into suitcase while they were drinking, but video recording shows him pleading for helpPeople don't really know, to be fair. You're right people don't care. People be fickle but most people don't care about most things. They will only know what is repeated around them. When I say demonstrate, I mean it needs to be pushed into public perception. It's going to be a long and unfair fight, but that's how these things work. | /r/MensRights | 27/02/20 03:11 PM |
| 3 | woman claims boyfriend climbed into suitcase while they were drinking, but video recording shows him pleading for helpI don't know if I agree. We can argue about how unfair it is that there is a higher standard of proof for women until the cows come home but in order to change this stigma we need to be able to demonstrate it to be untrue. So you're right, in a vacuum, this is quite bad but in terms of the current discourse it will help to raise awareness. This is all the MRM can do at this point in time, find examples to raise awareness. Like the Amber Heard and Johnny Depp story. | /r/MensRights | 27/02/20 03:06 PM |
| 3 | woman claims boyfriend climbed into suitcase while they were drinking, but video recording shows him pleading for helpThis is quite positive, no? I am seeing more and more of this recently. Is the overton window finally shifting? | /r/MensRights | 27/02/20 02:41 PM |
| 19 | Ex-Femenists what made you turn?Something that's sadly lacking in our society today. Not just today. If history proves anything, there's always some stupid shit to get behind. | /r/MensRights | 11/02/20 12:00 PM |
| 7 | On this femminism group they don't say a word about Johnny Depp's innocenceWell for one, you do have the a certain sub group of feminists that rally against the MRA because they claim to be for the equality of the sexes. I get why they don't but it would be nice of them to admit it, rather than this idea that dismantling patriachy is somehow going to help men with their issues. The MRA never claimed this, in any capacity. In fact they only reason the MRA needs to exist is because feminism has monopolised the conversation on equality. This group doesn't deny female vict… | /r/MensRights | 10/02/20 10:39 AM |
| 12 | How do people still not believe that men can't be the victim?Shame the assholes supporting Amber Heard have disproportionate influence over what gets reported and acted on. If this comes back on her in anyway, I'd be surprised (although pleasantly). | /r/MensRights | 07/02/20 02:11 PM |
| 42 | How does this get 189k likes? Why is misandry cool?Well, that person has 63 likes. So that's 63 of us to those 200k. I'll take the 3175 furthest to the right, y'all can decide on how to take the rest between you. | /r/MensRights | 28/01/20 08:39 AM |
| 2 | A compilation of evidence debunking feminist historical revisionism.Thanks! Really appreciate this and your work. | /r/MensRights | 16/01/20 08:13 PM |
| 2 | A compilation of evidence debunking feminist historical revisionism.I was wondering if I could get your thoughts on a post apparantly debunking your ideas, a lot of which I could see that I disagreed with just from reading it but I would like clarification on something (as I have found it difficult to find resources. The post can be found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/1zs9c4/the_western_world_once_had_genuine_equality/ They had this to say in regards to your points about husbands being financially responsible for the whole family: I'm honest… | /r/MensRights | 14/01/20 04:14 PM |
| 50 | FSW 'women' are the primary victims of financially struggling men.Feminists: We aRe iN A PaTRiarCHY WheRe MeN ArE In COntROL aNd HOld AlL the FInaNciaL POweR. Also... Feminists: WhErE Are All ThE fINAnCIAlly StAbLE MeN! | /r/FeminismStopsWhen | 08/01/20 05:03 PM |
| 2 | In the Orwellian logic of feminism, respect is now disrespectBad faith actor basically means someone who is disingenuous in their approach. Basically a deceitful bastard. Use language to tell you how respectful or nice they are being to do it. I’m a blunt kind of gal and people around me don’t need to be, but every once in a while I’m going to say “cut the shit what do you really mean by that?” I get this, people who go around boasting their own virtue are rarely as virtuous as they claim. I think this does show a lacking in self awareness. Especially if … | /r/MensRights | 04/01/20 02:47 PM |
| 7 | What can women do to better support men?Not much. It is good that you care but the world is generally blind to male victims, when compared to women: Research. Be empathetic. Try to be balanced in how you approach situations. Call out behaviour you think to be misandric (as we all should, though I know this can be hard because a lot of people plain don't give a fuck).. . Or better yet, call out sexism in general. Sexism is usually a double edged sword. What hurts one group usually cuts against the other in different ways. For instance,… | /r/MensRights | 04/01/20 10:51 AM |
| 2 | In the Orwellian logic of feminism, respect is now disrespectThat’s just an example of what I would say to get to the bottom of that statement. Okay, but you could probably do that in a way that isn't projecting intentions onto the person. Some people would probably react negatively to that. I still think you're jumping to conclusions. BUT if I said my reason for not having sex right now is my respect for the man offering it, that wouldn’t be true and I am sure for most people that’s the case. But men and women have different expectations put on them when… | /r/MensRights | 04/01/20 08:24 AM |
| 2 | In the Orwellian logic of feminism, respect is now disrespectYou're involved in the statement but the subject of the statement is them and their actions. At the very most, you could argue that they might even feel your disrespecting them (which I don't necessarily think is a conclusion you can draw) by offering but who gets go decide what feeling is right. Another example would be a co-worker offering their ideas to a person who they can see is struggling and the person responding: "I respect you too much to take credit for your ideas". They're not saying… | /r/MensRights | 03/01/20 07:04 AM |
| 14 | "These aren't real feminists. They're not representative of the majority of feminists. They don't count." How does one address this argument?It's always the case with moderates of any ideological group they will be completely blind to and even justify the actions of radical leaders just because they hold the right label and happen to be in positions of authority... My mum is a prime example of this. She's a second wave feminist who can actually be quite moderate in her opinions. She talks about how to help men. She is against a lot of the "PC stuff" as she calls it, even going so far as to question the MeToo movement and the whole ma… | /r/MensRights | 02/01/20 06:05 PM |
| 1 | In the Orwellian logic of feminism, respect is now disrespectI'm not too sure I did a good job of my reply before, let me try again now I am a bit more sober (New Years). I have also changed my mind. I don't think I do agree. Mostly agree and in all cases I would consider language barriers and education Education? I am unaware of how that's relevant. What aspect of education deciphers the objective meaning behind subjective phrasing. Thanks for sharing but I'm not sure I get where you're coming from (I thought I did, but this reply doesn't seem to match w… | /r/MensRights | 01/01/20 10:44 PM |
| 2 | In the Orwellian logic of feminism, respect is now disrespectWell, I misunderstood you and agree with you more than I thought... But there are some points that I alluded to that fit this argument more. Maybe people don't have the same command over language that you do. I agree that people could maybe be more open with what they're saying, however. I just think it is unfair to expect that level of understanding from everyone. I agree that clear language is important to communication but to expect people to have the same understanding of language, or the sa… | /r/MensRights | 01/01/20 12:40 AM |
| 4 | In the Orwellian logic of feminism, respect is now disrespectOr they just don't want to reduce them to their sex appeal on a first meeting and get to know them better as a person before committing to sex. Unless you can read minds, I don't really see how you can claim to know what someone's intent is from a statement like this. Seems like your projecting your ideas of what it means onto any one individual who happens to say it. I don't think a person's thought process is limited to the two options you inferred and I would wager there's many more ways in w… | /r/MensRights | 31/12/19 04:16 PM |
| 3 | Study Found That 35%+ of Women Engaged in Sexual Violence or CoercionThe sample size is small, the numbers are probably higher. Colour me confused (this is not hard), because I agree with this: This experiment is a good start, but they need to go back and ask more and different questions. They need to conduct interviews and make sure they don't channel people. They need to make sure it's not self-selecting, especially. Maybe I misunderstood what you were getting at. I think the fact that it is a small sample hinders it. With less than 200 participants and (let's … | /r/MensRights | 11/12/19 04:17 PM |
| 2 | Study Found That 35%+ of Women Engaged in Sexual Violence or CoercionDo you have a background in the social sciences? The smaller the sampling size, the more likely that things are under-reported. Nope, but I have studied statistics (rudimentary understanding, so forgive me if my knowledge doesn't match yours) and work with them. No where in your statement does it state that the smaller a sample size means it's being under reported. I don't see how you get that from what is worded above. It is only meant to measure how much of a deviation you would expect if you … | /r/MensRights | 11/12/19 03:17 PM |
| 7 | Study Found That 35%+ of Women Engaged in Sexual Violence or CoercionThank you! We don't need to make shit up, I think this is enough to suggest that women perpertrators are more common than the general population might think. Isn't that enough. Are we trying to attack women, or are we just trying to point out that it is counterproductive to blame gender for violence/sexual assault. I'm not interested on who has it worse/who has more priviledge/which gender is worse. I just want people to be aware that the narrative of men oppressors and women oppressed is reduct… | /r/MensRights | 11/12/19 02:22 PM |
| 224 | Son sleeps with father who travelled the trenches to visit him during WW1So much... Toxic Masculinity... | /r/MensRights | 28/11/19 11:06 AM |
| 21 | NBC's reporting on the Fresno, CA shooting. As if Men getting shot is not equally horrible as Women and Children getting shot.An adult woman has a chance of fighting back. 130 pounds is still a lot of weight to be throwing around. Women can use weapons and do damage. They're not just dainty little flowers to be protected, this is a stereotype. It even has a name. An adult woman has a chance of fighting back. Not all men are in prime positions to protect themselves (the homicide rate/physical violence rate) will attest to that. So, baring in mind I disagree with this argument entirely. This is a particularly egregious e… | /r/MensRights | 18/11/19 10:55 PM |
| 16 | UK considering making misogyny a 'hate crime'It's because they've grown up surrounded by propoganda propogated by decades of gender studies that has entered mainstream media, education and policies. They've been primed for it their whole lives so they don't see the warning signs... I also think biological differences play a part. | /r/MensRights | 12/11/19 02:18 PM |
| 0 | James Younger's mother wants to turn him into a girl against his will. She also is willing to mutilate boys genitals at their parents request. Perhaps these things are connected...I'm with you, she hasn't done anything wrong by any laws even if people disagree with it morally. We are no more the champions of morals than they are. This is why principles are important, this is why we should argue through ideas rather than giving ourselves the authority to be judges, jury and executioners. The focus should be on helping people, not petty vengeance. Is our desire to hurt or is it to understand, is it to seek the truth? Is it to take people down or raise people up? | /r/MensRights | 08/11/19 07:00 PM |
| 1 | Giving Gillette some perspective: wowFor sure, it definitely shows their hypocrisy... I never want to offend people, and I’m careful not to. What I hate is the hypocrisy of identity politics. I agree with not intentionally offending someone but I am no longer playing the IdPol game. I will not say anything I don't think is true and I will share my opinion regardless. If people get offended by that it sounds like it's their problem. Those who follow Identity Politics are generally insecure about their own morality. SJWs always proje… | /r/PussyPassDenied | 08/11/19 11:58 AM |
| 1 | Giving Gillette some perspective: wowThe boomer insult seems whelming compared to racist and sexist. The thing is, someone told me that it was mainly used to point out outdated attitudes that no one has to worry about because they will be wrong in time, but then use it to be derogatory to younger Internet personalities. So it is trying to be ironic(?) but it just so lame. The majority of the dissidents this is used against supposedly fit the "attitudes" that are meant to be more prevelant in a much older generation. Doesn't that ki… | /r/PussyPassDenied | 07/11/19 10:06 PM |
| 21 | Found in r/teenagers...I agree but by the same merit I don't think that it is fair for high performing women to complain that there aren't enough high quality men (as some columns argue [1][2][3]). Seems to me the idea that men want women to earn less than them is actually not true. It seems to be that women want men that earn more or the same as them. Just as men can't have it both ways, neither can women. Men are under no obligation to keep up with those standards. Women and men can have the standards they want but … | /r/MensRights | 07/11/19 12:06 PM |
| 48 | Dear Feminists: We Don’t Owe You a ThingIt says it in the first paragraph of the article. A feminist has written a diatribe on Medium that is titled: Dear Men: I don’t owe you a thing. It is a painful exercise to reflect back, to this man-hating feminist author, what she projects on to Men. — John It's clever, but blatant satire. | /r/MensRights | 02/11/19 03:01 AM |
| 69 | Dear Feminists: We Don’t Owe You a ThingThe article is satire. It is in response to an article titled. "Dear men, we don't owe you a thing." I don't think it's meant to be taken seriously. | /r/MensRights | 02/11/19 02:56 AM |
| 5 | I have just been exposed to some blatant sexism IRLI genuinely believe that modern day feminism is very much a new age non-deistic theology. It takes the aspects of the guilt, shame an sin that religion builds. Just like religion, it maintains external reasons for the horrible situations of the world and the worst that humanity has to offer (Patriarchy vs The Devil). There's more similarities but... The main differences I can see are that traditional religion only promises the utopia after death, as opposed to new age theology which posits that … | /r/MensRights | 30/10/19 06:01 AM |
| 3 | "Today, 56% of people enrolled in college are women. This is because men are impatient for money"(and its their fault, too!)Just look at this breakdown of the Australian school curriculum: It is the stated purpose of a Child Protection Curriculum to educate and protect children. The fact that Freda Briggs, to whom the second edition is dedicated, felt that child protection curriculums were disregarding the needs of boys is very significant. “Boys did not see the child protection program as relevant to them because ‘only girls get raped’, they said. They also don’t see the relevance of sex to pregnancy.” (Briggs, 2015… | /r/MensRights | 30/10/19 05:27 AM |
| 39 | A passerby told me I was “mansplaining” to my girlfriend and I had to lay into her.I never know what to do with myself when debating some feminists. I am almost in awe at the way some of them can twist words out of context and cherry pick arguments that they can represent in the worst possible way, so if there's one aspect they can use against you... they will. I get wound up and snappy, then it gets worse. They will even use what is meant to be an innoculous comment, and sideline you with it at a later point in the conversation. This can be true of any group but it seems I ei… | /r/MensRights | 16/10/19 08:07 AM |
| 4 | Double Standards on Domestic Violence - How to Counter Them?There's not just studies, there is replicated consistent research going back decades that proves men are domestic abuse victims too. Yet, somehow, no one seems to think it is a thing. I wonder why that could be... | /r/MensRights | 11/10/19 05:55 AM |
| 13 | In case anyone was wondering what they teach in our schools today. Taught that men don’t experience sexism today.People seem to forget that discrimination is never a one way street, to positively discriminate toward someone you have to negatively discriminate against someone else and vice versa. So, it's possible that both are right to some degree. The problem comes when people try to make it a competition based on groups, and in this case I would say the sexism is more against the friend of your father. My point is that discrimination hurts everyone, to discriminate cause far reaching effects where truth … | /r/MensRights | 10/10/19 01:47 PM |
| 69 | In case anyone was wondering what they teach in our schools today. Taught that men don’t experience sexism today.Ironic isn't it, this document is an example of discrimination against men but due to the magical patriarchy it somehow doesn't count because they are so advantaged in today's society. It's not like there's large swaths of boys being left behind in school or a whole host of male victims being ignored. No, that's just completely ridiculous... No, every male is either holding the reigns of power in a patriarchal system who has only been gifted their power by the grace of society's gendered norms (… | /r/MensRights | 10/10/19 08:11 AM |
| 1 | Forced Penetration - The law says that women raping men isn't a thing. Is that right?Not much, friend. Have heart though that these kind of ideologies don't tend to last forever. It might be a necessary step for humanity to take before we can improve. There's no easy answer, to get the truth out it's going to take sacrifice. I'm not saying go out and fight (though always defend yourself against a bully), what I mean is it's going to take people speaking out. They will have to take the shit that comes with it. It won't stop unless people speak out against it, and do it even thoug… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/19 02:06 PM |
| 2 | Forced Penetration - The law says that women raping men isn't a thing. Is that right?And in my opinion the fact that it’s willful just makes them less intelligent. Hey, not trying to defend them here. I definitely think their lunatics but they have some level of intelligence, as the most crazy ideas take a certain level of intellect for people to be able to reason them to themselves. Willful makes it worse, I agree. I also agree they don't want facts and logic, that's because they've already convinced themselves they have all the answers. It's a fallacious look at history, they … | /r/MensRights | 09/10/19 01:54 PM |
| 2 | Forced Penetration - The law says that women raping men isn't a thing. Is that right?Feminists that like their Patriarchy theory are not as smart as they think they are. Not through a lack of intelligence, as a lot of feminists are very intelligent people but through willfull ignorance. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/19 01:36 PM |
| 3 | Imagine recognizing everyone's mistreatenings equallyIt does have sources, there are hyperlinks in the text. Edit: Some of them are broken though, could do with an update. | /r/MensRights | 06/10/19 04:31 PM |
| 8 | I am a feminist. At least I thought so.You should never apologise for having your opinion. Even if you believe in things different to me, and we won't agree on everything, as long as we can be adults about it. I don't need everyone to think the same way as me. I used to when I was a feminist (sorry couldn't resist). The fact that you've kept an open mind and are willing to admit when you're wrong puts you up in my estimates. Why does human suffering have to be a measuing contest between the genders? Like anything good will come of it… | /r/MensRights | 30/09/19 11:39 AM |
| 2 | This is the most popular post ever made on r/feminism. The ten thousand people who upvoted this before it was locked share the belief that every agenda and belief you may have that isn't theirs is wrong.Oh right, my mistake. This makes more sense. Carry on good citizen. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/19 01:22 PM |
| 5 | This is the most popular post ever made on r/feminism. The ten thousand people who upvoted this before it was locked share the belief that every agenda and belief you may have that isn't theirs is wrong.This! Group dynamics where you compare issues between groups will ultimately foster tribalism in the extremes of the groups, us vs them just means you become more blind to the confounding factors around your views. The path to truth that does not make. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/19 01:17 PM |
| 1 | This is the most popular post ever made on r/feminism. The ten thousand people who upvoted this before it was locked share the belief that every agenda and belief you may have that isn't theirs is wrong.I mainly agree but what do you mean by no theory. There's Patriarchy theory, toxic masculinity, intersectionality etc... | /r/MensRights | 26/09/19 01:12 PM |
| 22 | Alright I'm joining you guysTina is a great writer but she really has a big blind spot when it comes to men's issues and has never really made an effort to understand them. I think this is it, it's a shame because I really enjoyed Kimmy Schmidt until the last season and it just felt really out of touch with reality. When she write's about other issues she tends to get it spot on. Oh well, this world takes all perspectives. | /r/MensRights | 23/09/19 02:13 PM |
| 44 | "Female Artists Represent Just 2 Percent of the Market. Here’s Why—and How That Can Change" Yes, boys, we have found yet ANOTHER way to oppress women -- not buying their crap paintings.Something like: 1885 Paintings, 1228 Sculptures, 2880 Ceramics, 12000 Drawings In total, it is estimated a number of 50,000 artwork projects completed. Like, how many people have even completed one? | /r/MensRights | 23/09/19 01:31 PM |
| 56 | Alright I'm joining you guysWhich is entirely unsurprising given the lead actress for the show since both herself [Poehler] and close friends [Tina Fey amongst others] make the exact same jokes about such things. Yup, Tina Fey's representation of MRAs in Unbreakable Kimmy Shmidt was so far off it was laughable. They had them protesting statues, making arguments about how a man didn't sexually assault a woman because she wasn't attracive enough, or men being kept out of women's prisons. basically just the misogynistic man b… | /r/MensRights | 23/09/19 01:21 PM |
| 2 | Actor Chris O'Dowd claims the #MeToo movement is "great for everyone" - as men have "coasted in power" for too long and now won't feel the pressure to be "aggressive" or hide their feelingsYup, it truly is the Patriarchy even when men get attacked they could never be the victim. Even if a woman abuses a man and he's begging her to stop, we have to remember that the woman is the victim somehow. Men have the power, so they can never hit a woman back. Also, because women can do no wrong. The police will likely arrest the man for antagonising her with oppressive toxic masculinity. If only he shared more, then he probably wouldn't be in this situation. Should they defend themself, even… | /r/MensRights | 06/09/19 06:08 AM |
| 9 | Male Suicide getting Worse... Who Would've Guessed?But all men need to do is talk about their feelings, unless those feelings contradict ours in which case they're exhibiting fragile masculinity. | /r/MensRights | 03/09/19 05:26 PM |
| 4 | Male Suicide getting Worse... Who Would've Guessed?I wouldn't say responsible, I'd say edged it along. | /r/MensRights | 03/09/19 05:20 PM |
| 3 | Male Suicide getting Worse... Who Would've Guessed?Yeah, realising now I should have archived it. | /r/MensRights | 03/09/19 05:19 PM |
| 3 | Male Suicide getting Worse... Who Would've Guessed?Well, it is the independent. | /r/MensRights | 03/09/19 03:29 PM |
| 20 | Why r people like thisGod, some of the comments in that post If they knew they were going to be severely punished, wouldn’t it be easier to just continue to lie about the sex crimes? Or (and I'm just spitballing here), we don't demonise someone and destroy their lives on accusations alone? That way we won't have to worry about them not coming forward and we can just treat it like any other crime? Just a thought... | /r/MensRights | 02/09/19 02:57 PM |
| 1 | Prick Advisor - Naming & Shaming Men Online for Alleged Abuse (Internet Mob Lynching)More like guilty until proven innocent but even then, they probably did summit. | /r/MensRights | 30/08/19 08:21 PM |
| 2 | Stunning how well this applies to a feminist candidate that says "The Future is Female."Probably a better term for the phenomenom. I'll update my comment. | /r/MensRights | 20/08/19 02:38 PM |
| 2 | Stunning how well this applies to a feminist candidate that says "The Future is Female."Well yes, but anyone who is saying this sort of thing usually isn't self aware enough to make the distinction. When you try to point it out to them, they will have some reason as to why it's acceptable when they do it (be it against Muslims, Western Right-Wingers or men etc). In other words, you likely won't change their mind. I pointed out a similar phenomenom in the politics sub: None of those tweets were antisemetic racist. They may not have been in great taste, but they weren’t antisemeticra… | /r/MensRights | 19/08/19 08:32 AM |
| 7 | This is the kind of normalised hate we are dealing withYeah, I know. The worst that happens here if I say something against the grain is I get downvoted. To be honest, this was just me pointing out the hypocricy. In terms of actual feminists and policy... I am more than willing to believe that feminisits like this are in the minority, I think most people are moderate even if they subscribe to a harmful ideology without realising it. My problem with mondern day feminsim is that it is treated as a given in the overton window, whilst generalising and o… | /r/MensRights | 14/08/19 11:38 AM |
| 60 | This is the kind of normalised hate we are dealing withI think their point was that MRAs are often judged by the crazy minority of people who give them a bad image and yet, people like this are just handwaved away by the feminist movement. It's more the double standard. Also, people to this extreme are in the minority but feminist philosophy gives them justification for their shitty behaviours, so... | /r/MensRights | 14/08/19 08:23 AM |
| 2 | Comment on toxic masculinity that I think is importantAnd feminists say that men are never treated differently just because they're men. I do think biology plays some role, men and women tend to cope with emotions differently. It is also true that when men speak up they are treated like they're invisible. I really am unsure that toxic masculinity is the best way of framing it (considering it is so one sided). I'm not sure toxic masculinity is the cause of violence, I think it's more motivated reasoning. Being told to man up never made me violent, a… | /r/MensRights | 14/08/19 07:46 AM |
| 1 | Johnny Depp hit in the face with paint can by Amber Heard, berating him saying 'your career is over,' 'no one is going to hire you,' 'you're washed up,' 'fat,' 'you will die a lonely man,' according to new witness testimonyMe too, if it is not too much trouble. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/19 04:32 PM |
| 2 | I try really hard to think that feminism is trying to be equal, and just forget men's issues, and some are like that. I know some. Trust me. But it's hard to fight for equality when this is the first rule on their subreddit.I would like to be a bit fair here and say it is likely not the same feminists (although some of them are that hypocritical). There is a vast range of different types of feminist thought (like religion it can get interpreted differently, so there are some who really do want equality. These are called choice feminists, they do see the bad that men have to go through but do still see it through a slightly dogmatic lense. These people are more moderate than a lot of other feminists cough intersecti… | /r/MensRights | 30/07/19 05:09 AM |
| 7 | My daughter and her friends aren't buying into the bullshit and think for themselves. A win for me as a single father.This makes me happy, my generation (millenials) is actually fucked by this lunacy at the moment and I don't see enough pushback about it from my age group. A lot of them don't fully believe it, but go along with it anyway. Maybe it's because I see a lot of middle class people in my day-to-day, but they seem to be oblivious to issues outside of their own little bubble. They don't understand the damage it is doing on the ground level because they never had to dwell there. I've seen so many men str… | /r/MensRights | 29/07/19 02:16 PM |
| 21 | A cry for help goes unheard...You are white knighting Meh. I know I'm not but you're entitled to your opinion. Lol oh so he wasn't being bullied at that moment in time means it's not the fault of his bullies Wasn't my argument at all, but I was wrong anyway. I read a comment about how appalled they were that 50 people just stood by and watched, but I think that was in the linked post. I don't think the bullies are faultless, I just don't think everyone on the platform can be blamed for his death. The headline is misleading. … | /r/MensRights | 18/07/19 07:14 AM |
| 81 | A cry for help goes unheard...I'm probably going to get down voted for this but from reading the actual article, it seems that it happened very quickly. We should be offering more support to everyone with mental health issues and we should all be more mindful to care for the people around us but there is some inaccuracies floating around in the comments I feel the need to address: He wasn't being bullied at that precise moment, he handed his bag and phone to his friends and jumped on the track. No one had time to react. Othe… | /r/MensRights | 18/07/19 06:53 AM |
| 12 | Getting circumcision isn't even something obligatoryI think that's the point that OP was making. | /r/MensRights | 15/07/19 06:23 AM |
| 68 | tattoo artist only serves females because “ men have everything “If I kill someone and call it a positive murder, does that mean I'm fighting for peace? Asking for a friend. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/19 11:25 AM |
| 358 | The violence against men Wikipedia page has been nominated for deletion 4 timesYeah, delete it! Whilst we're at it, let's delete the violence against women page and replace them both within one page. Concentrating on all victims of violence. That's what they meant by this right? | /r/MensRights | 28/06/19 03:42 PM |
| 31 | Testosterone = tough and no PTSDPatience young padawan, patience is key. We don't speak out to benefit ourselves but for the benefit of future generations. We can only choose how we act in the world, we can't decide how the world reacts. Progress has been slow, and the general population has always been slow to pick up on things. We still have a long way to go. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/19 02:39 PM |
| 2 | Sponsor dumps streamer after she insults and discriminates the entire male gender."What's wrong with trash, trash is good? We sell it all the time! " - Some Razer spokesperson, probably. | /r/MensRights | 26/06/19 06:56 AM |
| 1 | Sponsor dumps streamer after she insults and discriminates against the entire male gender. If only justice were this unbiased in the north.You have to lack any understanding of science and its methods to be this dumb to read these narratives as logical and scientifc proof. Not necessarily, I knew a feminist at work who was a trained scientist. She would just say that feminism doesn't need to be scientific. She would fall back on the fact that science has been sexist against women in the past (your x seems to create y example). In general though, she knew how to read scientific papers. This should be be obvious that I don't agree wi… | /r/PussyPassDenied | 26/06/19 06:50 AM |
| -1 | Why menslib is wrong, and why feminism is insufficient to address men's issues. (AKA, why we need the mens rights movement)Yep, the tribalistic nature that feminism was built around is gynocentrism. That's where the empathy gap comes from and that's why women have a greater in-group bias and men have an out-group bias towards women. I don't know if this proves gynocentrism (I guess I would need your definition). Yes men gain less empathy but there are other areas where they are more advantaged (in general). It can't be applied as a universal truth, this is what makes it flawed. It's the same with patriarchy, you cou… | /r/MensRights | 21/06/19 09:42 AM |
| -1 | Why menslib is wrong, and why feminism is insufficient to address men's issues. (AKA, why we need the mens rights movement)Feminism is not for "equal rights" but for privileges Probably true in a general sense but a lot of them genuinely believe they're morally righteous, that they are fighting for equality. Plus, not all their ideas are bad even if they come from an inherently flawed ideology. For example, I like the idea of universal childcare. There is a lot of diversity within groups in terms of thought. So while you're right, the difficulty comes in convincing people of that. An egalitarian movement will never … | /r/MensRights | 21/06/19 05:54 AM |
| 2 | Reposted but I thought this post pointing out feminism’s standard hypocritical BS was worth repostingThey'll be able to socialise men away from violence, they'll stop 'rape culture' and misogyny and the wage gap will disappear without it all descending into chaos and control. Simply does not exist I agree with the majority of this paragraph (I only included four to try to balance the argument, I don't believe it personally), though I would say it shouldn't be a competition between who has it worse in terms of misogyny and misandry. I agree that alot of feminist thought has misandric undertones … | /r/MensRights | 20/06/19 02:50 PM |
| 3 | Why menslib is wrong, and why feminism is insufficient to address men's issues. (AKA, why we need the mens rights movement)I agree with this, the men's right movement picks up on a lot of issues and has some good incite (and arguably it was needed, not just due to feminism but society's indifference in general). So you've ended up with two groups, each representing equal rights for their sexes. Ideally these movements should merge and pool their knowledge and ideas. This might eventually happen but as it currently stands, the ideological gap is just too wide, both would have to make concessions. I think we all need … | /r/MensRights | 20/06/19 06:44 AM |
| 1 | Reposted but I thought this post pointing out feminism’s standard hypocritical BS was worth repostingNope, just like there was no way to get through to the communists during Stalin's Russia (and other regimes). They're too convinced of their moral righteousness, there's four outcomes I can see happening as a result (there may be more but these are the two most likely imho): They will push it as far as it can go, it will take a cataclysmic change from their behaviour and will need to be pervasive enough that everyone can see the ideology for what it actually is. In history, this process usuall… | /r/MensRights | 11/06/19 12:36 PM |
| 8 | Reposted but I thought this post pointing out feminism’s standard hypocritical BS was worth repostingEasier said than done, the majority of people are fed up. But far left people in MSM, Acadamia and Silicon Valley need to realise this. They probably won't however, because due to twitter mobs they have a constant source of approval for their opinions. I don't know how we get through to them, because even people on the left (who are against this) are getting labelled as right-wing. The left is far more divided than the right, which doesn't bode well for the left [1] [2]. | /r/MensRights | 10/06/19 03:00 PM |
| 16 | Reposted but I thought this post pointing out feminism’s standard hypocritical BS was worth repostingYou didin't leave your party, your party left you. It's why I jumped into the pit, my opinions haven't really changed but the mainstream left has given over to straight up lunacy. We should start our own left wing party, I mean it will probably be branded right wing but we'll know! | /r/MensRights | 10/06/19 01:44 PM |
| 1 | Faced with the prospect of reproductive Rights equal to men feminists suddenly decide that forcing someone to pay for a kid they never wanted is slavery. But only for women.I don't think men should be forced into paying for a child they didn't want, but I do not feel that paying child support and the likes is anywhere similar to forcing women through pregnancy and childbirth. If I may, I'd like to respectfully disagree. Not because you are wrong (although I wouldn't say you're completely right), or because I think I have a unique insight into the matter (there's a lot of blind stumbling here). But because I do not think comparing these two issues is at all producti… | /r/MensRights | 07/06/19 03:35 PM |
| 6 | Faced with the prospect of reproductive Rights equal to men feminists suddenly decide that forcing someone to pay for a kid they never wanted is slavery. But only for women.But muh use a condom!/s | /r/MensRights | 07/06/19 08:58 AM |
| 9 | Left my abusive wife and reported her to the police. Now everyone hates meThe left has nothing to do with this I don't like saying this, because I consider myself on the left but it is very much being driven by the left. The right does treat men like shit, but it's a more apathetic. Men aren't their soul focus and yes, it is true that the empathy gap is indeed historical and probably partly driven by biological/evolutionary factors. Though I could be wrong, more research is needed. It needs addressing but we don't have all the answers on what creates it. We need those… | /r/MensRights | 05/06/19 09:34 PM |
| 1 | What do these women hope to achieve by bashing men like this?I don't know if it's that they're too retarded, it's just a lot of people are too apathetic. The parallels are there it's just if people aren't following it closely, they're not immediately obvious. Which is why for "normies" it's best to approach on an idea by idea basis. It sucks, but it is what it is. | /r/MensRights | 01/06/19 03:32 PM |
| 1 | What do these women hope to achieve by bashing men like this?I mean, I kind of agree with you. There are definite parallels to be made. But I think this just bogs the argument down, it isn't something that can be measured. I don't think we need to compare to point out the fallacies of an argument. It is ineffective because it doesn't actually say anything about their argument (and people react negatively when you invoke Goodwin law and Mccarthyism), they don't know what you know. It is driven by the same mode of thought but the arguments presented are (su… | /r/MensRights | 31/05/19 10:56 PM |
| 1 | What do these women hope to achieve by bashing men like this?You are 100% right, we aren't enlightened collectively. This will take time, and there is no guarantee we'll make it. We might have to deal with more authoritarian ideas gaining prominence, there is nothing we can do about this. The only thing we can do is try to learn from each mistake and from each success. I don't imagine a simple solution to it all. All we have is trial and error. It sucks though, because I feel like we are heading toward a time of regression. Hopefully, I'll see some real p… | /r/MensRights | 31/05/19 09:49 PM |
| 1 | Meryl Streep says she doesn't agree with the term 'toxic masculinity'3) My final point is broad but still relevant (I think). So, the term toxic masculinity is a feminist theory. Like most feminist theories, it is based around the idea of patriarchy that social structures are designed to be beneficial to men and that is the reason for the discrepancies you see (such as pay gap, domestic violence and rape culture etc). This is based on the idea that women (and feminine traits) are inherently undervalued in comparison to males. Under this metric it makes sense to d… | /r/MensRights | 31/05/19 12:04 PM |
| 1 | Meryl Streep says she doesn't agree with the term 'toxic masculinity'I have a definition that I think is the strongest case for it I've heard (still not an argument I agree with, but here goes): Toxic Masculinity It is how insecurities manifest (usually men, but women can have toxic masculine traits too). This is the idea that men are socialised to idolise traits like aggression, or misogyny as part of being a "real man". So, as a result their insecurities about their manhood lead them to toxic acts. Now, not all men who have toxic attitudes about masculinity do … | /r/MensRights | 31/05/19 12:04 PM |
| 15 | What do these women hope to achieve by bashing men like this?Same old story, different framing. I have a problem with the saying: History repeats itself Because history seldom repeats, exactly I mean. I would say it is more of a rhyme. Similarities, but different underlying ideologies and different targets. It seems humanity still has a lot to learn, maybe we'll never really get there but we have already come so far. The general trend has been up so that at least fills me with hope. | /r/MensRights | 31/05/19 06:34 AM |
| 1 | 92 percent of sex-specific scholarships are reserved for women, study finds | The College Fix. One more example of how college campuses are hostile toward males.I do think the lack of scholarships for men is unfair, but this is fun so... Darts | /r/MensRights | 23/05/19 02:37 AM |
| 3 | Gender is not a entirely social construct.I don't know whether it's a recent thing but I find it fatiguing. You and me both, buddy. I'm quite tired of it by now. If it makes you feel any better, it's only people who tend to frequent online political discussions. Evidence suggest they are by no means reflective of the general population: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/329630215_Analyzing_change_in_network_polarization | /r/MensRights | 21/05/19 03:48 PM |
| 5 | Gender is not a entirely social construct.Yes, exactly. This is why the phrase 'gender is a social construct', is too narrow a concept because some aspects must be but others aren't and we definitely don't have the data, or the science to clearly distinguish one from the other. We only have guess work... So why are people comfortable saying with 100% certainty that gender is a social construct? Where evidence suggest that it is determined by both (or being more fair, we don't know either way), this seems like an assumption more than a f… | /r/MensRights | 21/05/19 03:15 PM |
| 8 | Gender is not a entirely social construct.But that's the rub, Gender isn't necessarily just because we decided what is feminine or masculine... Yes, things like pink being a girls colour were constructed, but the average differences between men and women do have a basis in biological sex. There are regressive ideals that hold people back in society but claiming that gender is just a social construct (or more commonly, the biological differences are so small that it is safe to ignore these entirely focus on gender from a social lense). B… | /r/MensRights | 21/05/19 02:41 PM |
| 1 | Posted this on my ig story and already got like 4 comments calling me dumbYour approach is commendable, I try to hold the same truths in mind. It is hard not to get frustrated for me, though. I think they do need help and it worries me that they are relying on feminism to fix their problems when it can't. Thank you for being an advocate for compassion and peace. If more people saw the world as you. We probably wouldn't need to have this conversation in the first place. Have a gold on me, I am all about encouraging compassion, yo! | /r/PussyPassDenied | 17/05/19 03:03 PM |
| 1 | most real life heroes are men.*Sigh Now we get to the crux of the issue and why I decided to pick a fight in the first place. I can admit, that the majority of fireman, police officers, construction workers and soldiers. They're very brave and I appreciate what they do. Can you admit that we agree here? Or do I need to draw you a picture (I have said this already). So all you're "If people can't admit this fact...". You've picked a fight because you've assumed my intent, you are doing what hard-line feminists do at this poin… | /r/MensRights | 16/05/19 05:58 PM |
| 1 | most real life heroes are men.why does it bother you so fucking much to say "Yes, by and large men do good things in this manner"? Umm, it doesn't? Why do you think it does. I just don't think it is very effective. If you're looking to affect change. My apologies for challenging your argument (and thinking it is a generalisation). I actually don't think I'm having a kneejerk reaction. I think it is just as reductive when feminists do it, for example: Most truly empathetic people are women It is divisive by the mere mention o… | /r/MensRights | 16/05/19 03:03 PM |
| 1 | most real life heroes are men.You get my upvotes. This rhetoric of men are heroes/men are violent/women are bitchy/women are benevolent/women have been instrumental in the raising of our youth/men have been instrumental in the raising of our youth needs to stop. I detest the notion that we can't approach these issues together, like we're two different species and we have to separate violence into male and female categories. I also take issue with the idea that a man/woman can't understand the issues of the opposite sex. We a… | /r/MensRights | 16/05/19 02:13 PM |
| 1 | Fewer women than men fall victim to violenceBrilliant! | /r/MensRights | 16/05/19 08:00 AM |
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