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The thing is, her sentence is actually correct, as long as you use it without article. "Man" meaning humanity. There IS something bad in every man (and woman). This is something that can easily be observed and has been for millenia. Obviously she's using it in a way that denigrates half of the planet, but the point she is ALMOST making isn't without substance. That evil lies within every single human heart. With this case in particular, I don't think it's really worth getting upset over her word…
/r/MensRights22/12/24 09:50 PM
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Bodily autonomy. Men aren't protected from genital mutilation nor conscription.
/r/MensRights10/12/24 09:01 PM
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You can't even donate sperm at most clinics if you're 5'8" or under... because women won't accept it... Considering that, why don't you tell me if heightism is a thing?
/r/MensRights14/11/24 12:56 AM
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Not to mention... women currently have more bodily autonomy than men at birth, since FGM is illegal and circumcision is widely practiced... Over a 100 infant boys die every year in the US from something that is more often than not their mother's choice.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 12:31 AM
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No True Scotsman... Why don't you try reading the things the most prominent feminists in the world actually say about men, then tell me the ideology you espouse is about equality and fair treatment.
/r/MensRights08/11/24 08:13 PM
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Several times...
/r/MensRights05/11/24 05:50 PM
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It wasn't just on some subreddit... an actual magazine PUBLISHED it... Look up the Grievance Studies.
/r/MensRights02/11/24 01:32 AM
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George (TheTinMen) is genuinely one of the greatest, if not THE greatest, voices out there for these issues. I'd implore everyone even remotely interested in mens rights or gender politics to follow him. I've had to avoid his posts, among others, for a few months now for my own mental health; but for those with a stronger resolve I'd highly suggest his page.
/r/MensRights15/10/24 10:28 PM
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I'm glad that sub exists but I have to avoid it like the plague... Genuinely makes me want to kill myself.
/r/MensRights15/10/24 10:02 PM
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Because nobody gives a fuck.
/r/MensRights14/09/24 09:17 PM
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Well it happened to me... but there was never any case (lawsuit). I never even told people.
/r/MensRights18/08/24 06:38 PM
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Well yeah, its a Kafka trap. Its the same one used in abuse debates... "Well if you dont agree with me, then YOU are a prime example of why I'm right." It's incredibly annoying; but hey, I've seen women that have been my friend for years who had my respect, and even knew of my history of abuse and sexual assualt, that STILL used those arguments... But hey, they did me the favor of showing me their true colors in a way I could plainly see. So I've cut a lot of people out of my life recently. Try …
/r/MensRights06/07/24 06:14 PM
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Humans endure. We've endured for roughly 300,000 years through worse things than conflict and ideological warfare. So hope for humanity is not lost... But yeah, this generation and the coming generations, as least those in Western civilization, if not all advanced civilizations; I believe is completely fucked.
/r/MensRights01/07/24 08:05 AM
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It is lost for us. Not for humanity as a whole.
/r/MensRights01/07/24 07:46 AM
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Very poorly. But hey I learned that crisis evaluations sure are fun!
/r/MensRights13/06/24 05:25 PM
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I'm not masculine at all and have a terminal lung disease; I neglect my health at every turn and never seek help. So idk haha
/r/MensRights12/06/24 10:16 PM
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Well if they're perfectly willing to group all men together like a monolith, and denigrate them all in one fell swoop, then frankly I don't care if they claim to care once their son/brother/husband/father/savior is brought up. At that point they're not only a bigot, but also just posturing to their friends, even if the consequences mean innocent boys killing themselves.
/r/MensRights10/06/24 09:45 PM
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Good luck with that. Not even trying to be snarky (okay, a little bit), but I genuinely mean good luck. It will be needed. When women who are married and have sons but say things that are utterly reprehensible and sexist I have zero hope for anyone giving a shit any time soon. In my experience, the only time someone (other than my immediate family) has ever cared about me is when I'm starting to no longer serve them a purpose.
/r/MensRights10/06/24 09:27 PM
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Not surprised even in the slightest.
/r/MensRights10/06/24 09:24 PM
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I should have been more precise with my speech; I agree with you. I meant for me personally.
/r/MensRights10/06/24 04:47 AM
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No amount of speaking up has changed a single thing. No one cares.
/r/MensRights09/06/24 10:27 PM
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They SHOULDN'T do this; but my plan has been pretty clear and cemented for over a decade now. Don't follow me brothers.
/r/MensRights05/06/24 08:27 PM
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Aside from John Wayne Gacy, bears are often the kindest gay men, at least in my experience.
/r/MensRights08/05/24 07:43 AM
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100% correct.
/r/MensRights07/05/24 09:29 AM
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Yes, there are good feminists. But they believe in an ideology represented by bigots, and they willingly defend said ideology. Not every basement dwelling Marxist is a bad person, but they believe, support, and defend an ideology that killed 100 million people. I'm not equating the two, because that'd be silly; but I'm bringing that up because the analogy fits. I always ask people who defend feminism... Have you actually read the words said by the most prominent feminists in the world? Nearly al…
/r/MensRights07/05/24 09:23 AM
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I fucking hate Thenns... In all seriousness, I hope he wins his case. Shouldn't this seriously bring in to question Gascon's ability to serve as DA?
/r/MensRights06/04/24 06:39 PM
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I'd recommend being VERY clear about what you mean when you say "toxic masculinity". It is not at all acceptable to mention when talking about male suicide without being clear about what you mean. It very much reads like victim blaming. I'm really sorry about your brother, I hope you are grieving him well and in a healthy way. No one deserves that type of pain. I greatly fear the day I inflict that pain on my loved ones.
/r/MensRights27/03/24 01:02 AM
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I understand. I'm not saying you're toxic. I'm saying that we have repeatedly been told that toxic masculinity and "not opening up about our emotions" or "not seeking help" is why we are killing ourselves in droves... But when we actually open up and talk about it we are told to sit down, shut up, and accept feminism. No one fucking cares about our problems when we open up. Roughly 70% of men that have committed suicide DID reach out for help... but no one cared enough to listen. All due respect…
/r/MensRights27/03/24 12:53 AM
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And why would we ever want to have a discussion about OUR suicide rates with you? What expertise, morality, or concerns of yours could shed some light to us? Why would we assume that you have anything but ill-intention for those of us that are suicidal or bereaved by suicide? When we have feminists coming in daily talking down to us about our toxicity and our fragility, why on earth would we trust that YOU have genuine intentions?
/r/MensRights27/03/24 12:42 AM
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You're arguing in circles and ignoring the meat of my comments just like you claim the people of this subreddit have done with your post. You've still yet to name one single prominent feminist who isn't openly against equality... but okay, I'll take your word for it. Women in the middle east are pro-equality. Someone being pro-equality is not a feminist. Plain and simple.
/r/MensRights27/03/24 12:39 AM
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Okay. But I'm not any of those men. I'm an individual person. We're not all a monolith, just as you are not like all women in the world. If I were to treat you that way, you'd be upset, and rightfully so. I understand you're from the middle east, I'm a major supporter of equality for women in the middle east and specifically Somalia where the rates of FGM are nearly 98%; I've been following it for a long time, ever since Ayaan Hirsi Ali came out with her first book. You can find me decrying fema…
/r/MensRights27/03/24 12:28 AM
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I'm talking about the ideology, from its inception til now. I'd like you to give an example that proves that true feminism is for equality, like you argued in your post. It should be incredibly easy for you to do. But every single comment you make you are suddenly talking about wrongdoings of "men". I've never once said anything about men or women, only ideology. Why are you so eager to point a finger at men when I've never once said anything about the men in power, abortion laws, or women as a …
/r/MensRights27/03/24 12:14 AM
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Whataboutism. What do those men in power have to do with feminism? I'm not taking about "women". You brought up feminism the ideology, not women the individuals. Try to stay on topic. I named some of the most prominent feminists in history as an example of feminism in its truest form being bigoted and NOT for equality. Do you have a response to that?
/r/MensRights27/03/24 12:06 AM
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You claim true feminism is about equality; okay, give some examples... Which proponents of feminism have been for equality? Who has espoused feminism that doesn't directly contradict equality? Emmeline Pankhurst, suffragette leader, prominent feminist - Shamed men and boys who didnt go to war. Dr. Mary Koss, feminist - advocates against men being recognized as victims of rape. Sally Miller-Gearhart, co-founder of americas first women studies and gender studies program, feminist - Quoted saying "…
/r/MensRights26/03/24 11:57 PM
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I have a terminal illness. It's degenerative, and frankly, it quite literally will only get worse. I was told I would likely be dead in 5 years... 4 years ago... Nothing has ever gotten better, it's only gotten worse. Every friend I've ever had to talk to about this has left, and every girlfriend I've ever had (3 of them) has openly admitted that the disease made me less attractive; the kicker being the love of my life leaving me when she found out my life expectancy. Each day I wake up is anoth…
/r/MensRights19/03/24 10:12 PM
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Well it's a complex circumstance but to put it simply: Suicide.
/r/MensRights19/03/24 09:59 PM
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Yes I agree. It is very disgusting. I apologize if I came off upset or like I was laying the blame at your feet.
/r/MensRights19/03/24 09:57 PM
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I agree with you wholeheartedly with this point. It is unfair we put those expectations on aging women. For me personally, it's irrelevant; I, like many other young men, won't live much past 30 anyway. I'll certainly never see 40. So for me - I only get looked down on and criticized for my appearance... my entire life.
/r/MensRights19/03/24 09:39 PM
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So as long as your a millionaire then it's all fine and good to be ugly... But what about the 90% of men that aren't rich, and the 80% of men that women consider to be below average?
/r/MensRights19/03/24 09:37 PM
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"We are bombed with unrealistic images of womanhood that make us live in a delusional state where we think we are supposed to look like that —and since it’s not possible, we are vulnerable to feeling awful about ourselves." You just described what men go through their entire lives as well, except for maybe later in life. I totally agree with you that once you get older in age, it's usually harder for women. "And we pay too much attention to criticism. As of late I feel men are being caught up in…
/r/MensRights19/03/24 09:12 PM
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r/ExposingHeightism is a great resource for people that don't believe it matters. Though, I'd suggest NOT visiting if you are already depressed or suicidal.
/r/MensRights13/03/24 12:18 AM
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Yeah no shit. Problem is, no one cares.
/r/MensRights12/03/24 11:53 PM
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Yeah what else is new?
/r/MensRights12/03/24 11:32 PM
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Yeah I've seen enough guys literally suicidal over this type of shit, spoken to many of them, and at some points have been one; just yet another reason to be misanthropic.
/r/MensRights24/02/24 10:06 PM
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Stop drinking. Workout. Read. Write. Eat healthy. Be productive in a fun or creative way. Ignore your phone and all social media.
/r/MensRights16/02/24 05:52 AM
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I've got no advice because I'm not any better off, I'll just say that the thing that keeps me going is my love and responsibility to my family. If I did recommend something, I'd say look up Jordan Peterson and watch his older stuff. He has a DEEP catalogue of very worthwhile content, and has honestly helped me NOT commit suicide many times. Forget the political shit if you want, but I do highly recommend it.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 09:12 AM
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You ever call a "helpline" when you're suicidal? It's really not the great resource people seem to think it is.
/r/MensRights09/12/23 10:25 AM
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You should read Infidel by Ayaan Hirsi Ali... You'll see just how worse it can be. Both are barbaric, but to say it's less or equivalent, is being willfully blind to what is done to millions of girls in Islamic countries. Edit: I can't respond, or PM, so you must've blocked me; but my argument is with the last sentence of his comment. If "it can be" worse, then his argument that it is "less harmful or equivalent" is verifiably false.
/r/MensRights11/11/23 07:22 PM
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Saving children should always be held in high esteem and considered an honorable act. Frankly, I'd like to believe I'd give my life for someone else given the opportunity, man or woman; but then again, I consider my life to have very little value, and if I can die for someone else, then I consider that to be a great death. I'd rather save someone else in dying than be hanging from a noose in the woods... so to speak.
/r/MensRights20/10/23 07:25 AM
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Color me abso-fuckin-lutely shocked.
/r/MensRights29/09/23 07:36 AM
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No not at all, worse in fact; but thank you for the comment, and the concern. Know that you are appreciated around here.
/r/MensRights27/08/23 08:01 AM
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Granted I'm genuinely a very emotional guy, but this post made me tear up. I went through abuse and sexual assualt from a woman, and have rarely found anyone willing to listen, so this hit really hard. Anyway, thank you for sharing and thank you for trying to stand up for those who need it, me included.
/r/MensRights27/08/23 06:04 AM
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I wish I could do or say more to help, but it will be okay my friend. You will be okay.
/r/MenSupportMen22/08/23 02:35 AM
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Was literally told I had toxic masculinity for being suicidal over a breakup while reeling from news about my dad not being my bio dad... Went there in a time of vulnerability and got laid into hard for it. Fuck that sub.
/r/MensRights12/07/23 09:30 AM
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I dont know what post you're referring to, but I've personally spoke to guys in some "circles" that lamented similar problems. Some guys literally wish they were born a woman instead; with or without being dysphoric.
/r/MensRights12/07/23 09:03 AM
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Oh lots of things! But I'd go with painting my nails! I love the dark black goth look, whether I'm in the gym or at the bar with friends. I think it looks cool
/r/MensRights21/12/22 07:24 AM
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Aaaaaand the murderer is not in jail...
/r/MensRights07/12/22 04:16 AM
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Went there for all of 5 minutes and saw rules being broken, obvious gatekeeping, and hateful comments thrown around; not to mention multiple people talking about "toxic masculinity". Seems like a terrible place to seek solace.
/r/MensRights07/12/22 12:42 AM
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You know child grooms are a thing too, right?
/r/AntiFeminists26/11/22 08:50 PM
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I highly suggest her film "The Red Pill", I think it's a few dollars on YouTube. It's pretty eye-opening.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 12:08 AM
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Cassie Jaye
/r/MensRights28/10/22 05:28 PM
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Well... their hope is coming true, because many boys and young men are killing themselves every day, and with out a doubt some are because of this treatment... I get closer and closer every time I see or hear this shit, which is every day.
/r/MensRights21/09/22 05:14 AM
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Mans Search For Meaning - Viktor Frankl
/r/MensRights03/09/22 08:01 AM
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It absolutely is unreasonable to clump any group together as anything. No group is a monlith. But it is the same as my analogy, because a perfectly happy person who has NOT experienced the pain and strife that their "audience" has is using his own personal experience to say "Hey guys, just be hopeful! It worked out for me!" Like i said, this is incredibly similar to what you'll see on r/suicidewatch or r/depression. I'm just saying, it makes perfect sense for people to be negative or to take thi…
/r/MensRights02/09/22 10:29 PM
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A lot of the people on this subreddit are jaded and bitter from various different things in life, but mostly, being fucked over by an ex and the divorce courts, being mentally and physically abused, being used for their money; and on top of all of that, being completely ignored or made fun of for bringing up the abuse they've faced. Then comes in a young happy guy saying "Hey everyone, listen to how awesome my relationship is, I think this will give you guys hOpE." When in reality, the vast majo…
/r/MensRights02/09/22 07:29 PM
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Bruh... People who feel they will never have hope don't gain anything, least of all hope, from some dude online sharing all the great things about their life and their partner. You might as well go over to r/suicidewatch and tell them it can all get better while youre at it.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 07:17 PM
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Hey I just wanna pop in here and say your dad sounds like he was a certified badass! I'm glad you had that type of role model growing up. I'm sorry you lost him.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/08/22 07:41 PM
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I used to scooter around downtown Atlanta in the middle of the night with music blaring, often drunk. I'm also 5'6" and weigh 130 lbs soaking wet. I never once felt unsafe. I'm not at all agreeing with the OP or the sentiment that women are particularly in danger at night, so much to the point of being scared to have headphones in. But to act like EVERYONE is so cautious and careful when walking at night is absurd. I've never taken that precaution ever, and I've done it A LOT. To be fair, with a…
/r/MensRights24/08/22 07:47 PM
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You didn't think they actually existed? Have you ever had this debate bolefore? lol These are literally the only responses I've ever gotten from this debate.
/r/MensRights24/08/22 07:36 PM
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True. You didn't know. But implying I don't even know maternal death is a thing is pretty rude, considering my close relative died from it, and the baby is incredibly important to me; obviously you don't know that, but it was a cheap jab and so very obviously not true. You guys were arguing about cancer cells, the other commenter said cancer kills, and you said baby's kill too... that seems perfectly relevant to me, but whatever. It can be a difference of culture, sure, but I don't really care. …
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 11:32 PM
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Same. I'm mostly pro-choice (I say mostly because I've been leaning the other way recently, mostly because of the brain dead arguments, hate, and vitriol being thrown around), and I totally agree it's way too common and glamorized, often to a point of being sickening. Frankly though, I think I'll always be pro-choice, because bodily autonomy is of paramount importance in my eyes.
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 10:25 PM
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Oh I know! I totally agree with you! I just meant we haven't exactly been hitting the mark on the "rare" part.
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 10:20 PM
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It'd not my interpretation, it's literally the words you said... But its neither here nor there, I figured you may have an interesting take on it. Guess not.
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 10:08 PM
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What hypocrisy is that? When have I argued disingenuously? You said babies can kill too, I pointed out that states that made/are making abortion illegal are keeping that exemption in place; meaning your argument about maternal death is moot. You responded by casting repeated aspersions. Attacking my intelligence, character, a family member that died during labor; and now finally, oddly digging through my profile for something to insult? Also thank you, I'm really bad at Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai, …
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 10:07 PM
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What hypocrisy is that? When have I argued disingenuously? You said babies can kill too, I pointed out that states that made/are making abortion illegal are keeping that exemption in place; meaning your argument about maternal death is moot. You responded by casting repeated aspersions. Attacking my intelligence, character, a family member that died giving labor; and now finally, oddly digging through my profile for something to insult? Also thank you, I'm really bad at Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai, …
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 10:07 PM
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LOL okay dude, believe what you want. I have no desire to prove my intelligence or profession to a child who has yet to make a single actual point, debate even halfway respectfully, or shown that he can withstand even the slightest bit of scrutiny of his "arguments" without resorting to ad hominem. Good luck in school dude, I'm hoping you grow up before you face the real world.
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 09:48 PM
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I brought it up because you argued for bodily autonomy, I would say it is paramount... But if you're only for bodily autonomy when it suits your argument then you're not actually for bodily autonomy... I brought up this argument, because there's a pretty obvious link to it. So if abortions affected other people then it would set that precedent for more government overreach, basically eroding our rights to bodily autonomy? And you would be against that... Am I correct in that? I assume you can se…
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 09:44 PM
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LOL I'm an English tutor. My fifth grader pupil is vastly more mature than you, smarter as well it seems. I'm loving all of the baseless insults instead of an attempt at an argument though. Never grow up, life is much happier when you never have to defend a position and instead just repeat childish insults ad nauseum.
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 09:22 PM
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That might be the most disingenuous comment in the thread, so congrats you have the dumbest and most disingenuous. (By the way, you have no idea my experiences with maternal death, so you are actually a complete piece of shit to imply I know nothing about it... hint hint) Maternal death isn't even apart of the conversation, you just keep grasping onto it because you have no other valid argument. No state disallowing abortion doesn't make the exemption for the mothers health, so you are literally…
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 09:02 PM
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My straw man arguments? You mean like when you just barely said you think it should be legal to kill a baby?
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 08:45 PM
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Your "joke" about being a clown is true, so not a very good joke my guy. Making fun of down syndrome? Or are you racist? I'm unclear on the origin of this "mong" you like to use. Wait wait, why all the insults in the first place? Was someone pointing out the inadequacies of your argument? I still want to hear this awesome point you think you're making! What was it? Babies can kill? Yeah let's hear more about the killer babies.
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 08:44 PM
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I'm literally pro choice... but I'll tell ya what, conversations like this one surely make me reconsider lol You literally just said you think a BABY should be killed. A baby. After it was born. This is beyond parody. I guess those republican wackos aren't so wrong when they call you baby killer's. I'm just thankful you aren't the one making these decisions, and luckily you're just a kid, you've got time to grow up.
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 08:29 PM
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Oooh little thin skinned high schooler over here. Can't handle someone pointing out the glaringly obvious flaw in their argument so they immediately resort to ad hominem and childish name calling lol "I was just joking duh, that's why I made a stupid argument, and then tried to defend it with maternal death, and then you called that fallacy out so now I'm just kidding. That's why I resorted to insults, because I was just kidding. Reeee" I'll tell ya what, grow up a little and finish school, then…
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 08:20 PM
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Okay, so businesses can discriminate based on your own personal choices to accept or refuse medical procedures that have effects on your body? Should businesses be allowed to discriminate based on whether you've had an abortion or not? The government can restrict your access to public services if you refuse a medical procedure done by and paid for by that very government? Which by the way, effectively removed all recourse you could have if you're injured or killed. Does that not set the exact sa…
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 07:59 PM
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lol, stay in school dude, either you are completely disingenuous or your reading comprehension is suffering greatly. Again, not my position, it's the pro-life position. But since you can't seem to grasp that, let's try a different approach. When does the fetus become a human child? Can you point to a moment in the pregnancy? 6 weeks? 3 months? 6 months? 8 months? Birth? Let's say you're in New York, okay, well you can abort the BABY after its been born... In this case, the example woman was rape…
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 07:51 PM
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A polite interaction on reddit?! What is this? The twilight zone? lol Yeah we humans are prone to hyperbole and misunderstandings left and right, and I am absolutely not exempt from that, so no worries! I appreciate the cordiality :)
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 07:29 PM
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Like I said, I'm not making that argument dude... I'm pro-choice in the case of rape... What I'm saying is that THAT is the position some pro-lifers take, because they believe it is literally killing a child. You explain to me how murdering a child because their father is a rapist is morally correct.
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 07:22 PM
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You're right. You just phrased it as "there's no such thing as pro-life, its pro birth", which would in turn mean every single pro-life person doesn't care about babies, then you justified it with your personal experience. That is anecdotal, because YOU experienced talking to those weirdos. But you're actually correct, I hate blanket statements and generalizations, so I jumped to conclusions too quickly. I think I'm just being pedantic. My bad.
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 07:07 PM
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Yes you did, that's my point. You're generalizing based on your anecdotal experience.
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 07:00 PM
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It's literally what you said. Go read it again. I'm not offended, I'm not even pro-life haha. You just generalized millions of people based on your personal experience and I pointed that out.
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 06:58 PM
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LOL. Said the guy who "looks like a clown who can't read". Arguing for abortion using maternal death is a fallacy, counterproductive, and asinine. Literally every single pro-life proponent agrees to save the life of the mother. "BaBiEs CaN KiLl ToO". What a joke.
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 06:57 PM
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"We don't just strip people of their rights" Who doesn't? You can't seriously be talking about the US government...
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 06:45 PM
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This might be the dumbest comment in this entire thread lol
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 06:39 PM
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Over 900,000 abortions were performed in 2020... so there goes that "rare" thing.
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 06:38 PM
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"In my experience", ah yes, your anecdotal experience means that all people who are against abortion don't give a damn about babies.
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 06:37 PM
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I'm not in that camp, but the reason why most pro-life folks don't think abortion should be permitted in the case of rape, is because it's "killing the child for the sins of the father". Not sure how that is "really disgusting".
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 06:36 PM
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I highly recommend you watch this video
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 06:33 PM
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Huge fallacy in your first argument. "Making stealing illegal doesn't change the fact that if a thief needs to steal, he will! Legal or not." I'm not strictly pro-life, but you do realize most of Europe has far stricter laws against abortion than many US states, right?
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 06:29 PM
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I trust you felt the same about vaccine mandates?
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 06:24 PM
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Yeah I gotcha! Wasn't trying to imply you're deliberately missing his point, just trying to clear things up!
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 03:50 PM
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Oh gotcha. I've just seen similarly worded comments that are literally arguing that the entire US is now just taking rights away, when all that happened was it was moved to states rights. Yeah, the hyperbole and vitriol being thrown around by people on both sides is the most worrying to me honestly. Plus the multiple states that will punish a minor for abortion and the multiple states that allow abortion "up to birth". It's disturbing.
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 03:49 PM
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The US just ruled that the states decide. You can still abort a baby the day before the due date in New York. It's not "the US", it's specific states... most red states are also more liberal than most of Europe... So I'm not sure where you're getting the "US way too extreme" from.
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 03:43 PM
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That's not what he said. He said if the mothers life is in danger, a procedure that saves her (but kills the child), he does not consider it "abortion". He's pro life. Meaning he's against abortion regardless of incest or rape (punishing the child for the sins of the father), but is okay with it to save the mothers life. This is the stance that the vast majority of pro-life people take (some also include rape and incest). Arguing about saving the mothers life when arguing pro-choice or pro-life …
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 03:34 PM
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I'm with you. I've been pro-choice basically my entire life, and that position is getting harder and harder to defend after seeing the hyperbole and crazy arguments people are making. Edit: Even in this thread, yikes.
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 03:31 PM
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This isn't OP's creation. This is a post by @TheTinMen on Instagram.
/r/MensRights16/06/22 07:12 PM
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This is from @TheTinMen on Instagram, I highly recommend everyone to follow his page!
/r/MensRights15/06/22 06:00 PM
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Just had to happen to a rich and famous man for them to actually say anything.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 04:36 PM
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I see this brought up a lot and it always bothers me. Because it almost always leads to a blaringly obvious fallacy. Christianity in its pure form is about the teachings of Christ, but turns out, many of the biggest proponents of it have done inexplicably horrendous things. Does that mean they arent real christians? Or does that mean they've twisted the meaning of Christianity to allow for their not-so-noble actions and beliefs to still be under its umbrella? If we apply this logic to feminism, …
/r/AntiFeminists27/05/22 07:01 PM
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What the fuck? This sub is about going against a specific ideology, not half of the fucking planet. Get out of here with that shit.
/r/AntiFeminists12/05/22 08:03 PM
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May I light one for myself? If not then: 🕯 🕯 🌼 🌼 🕯 🕯
/r/AntiFeminists14/04/22 03:55 AM
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I'm very sorry you've experienced such vitriol and disrespect from men in your life, no one deserves such maltreatment. Frankly, I don't even believe you're listening to what I'm saying in this very instance... You haven't come into the discussion with one ounce of interest in understanding, nor have you extended a single olive branch. Three sentences in and you've declined to steelman my argument, and also haven't acknowledged half of what I said. Then, condescendingly imply I'm basing my argum…
/r/MensRights03/01/22 12:51 AM
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That is one I absolutely cannot agree with. Men can be feminists, and I hate their ideology just the same, I don't hate it less because they're a man. Your line of thinking you just said implies all women are a monolith, and that all women agree with feminism... seems sexist to me. I don't look at people through a group identity lens, all people are individuals. I don't hate anyone based on their immutable characteristics. I hate ideology, especially one's used for pernicious motives and in hurt…
/r/MensRights02/01/22 11:25 PM
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See, if it was phrased like that originally, I think a vast majority of people here would agree. It's the fact she made it about men, like it has been many many times, and most times something similar is said about women there is a righteous outrage instead of a myriad of online white knights defending the abhorrent statement.
/r/AntiFeminists02/01/22 11:09 PM
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I'm just assuming, but I'd guess it's the juxtaposition between these two sentences: "Have you noticed a lot of men on these mens rights pages don't actively speak on mens rights but throw out a lot of hate for feminists instead. Every and any time I've visited mens rights pages I see loads of misogyny." I'm not saying you are, but it's easy to think you're equating "hate for feminists" to "hate for women"; especially since that argument is made endlessly by feminists that immediately jump to mi…
/r/MensRights02/01/22 11:06 PM
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Ah, I can see what you're saying as well, though I do have the complete opposite experience. The thing is, I've experienced something similar with women multiple times, even to the point of being abused. (After the giving of a "chance", although I hate looking at it that way), but I would never ever agree with someone saying something like Ellish did, about men or women, or anyone for that matter. I find it despicable frankly. She's said many other sexist and denigrating things that absolutely D…
/r/AntiFeminists02/01/22 10:59 PM
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Oh I see! Like I said, I haven't seen the show so I don't have any context. I just wanted to make sure you're aware of that. You'd be surprised how many people literally think a cup makes you impervious to crotch shots. I'm guessing OP is talking about the double standard, because it likely wouldn't be used as comedy if the genders were switched. But again, I literally have no idea what any of it is even about really.
/r/MensRights02/01/22 10:38 PM
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Hello again lol, promise I'm not a stalker. The relevance is that criticizing feminists or feminism is not misogynistic. It's the criticism of an ideology and its proponents, not women themselves.
/r/MensRights02/01/22 10:34 PM
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I haven't watched the show at all, but if you're unaware, even with a cup it still hurts immensely to be hit in the crotch.
/r/MensRights02/01/22 10:30 PM
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I'm not okay with classifying a whole group of people as ANYTHING, other than people. Okay. What if we flipped it? Would giving an ugly woman a chance make her so conceited that she thinks she rules the world? I can absolutely guarantee you that Eilish would say no; that means she's implying only men would exhibit this behavior... But, since that's hypothetical I'll go with EXACTLY what she said and exactly what you said. "Give an ugly guy a chance and he thinks he rules the world" For argument …
/r/AntiFeminists02/01/22 10:22 PM
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Glad I could help! :)
/r/AntiFeminists02/01/22 09:55 PM
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In case you're not just joking, the commenter meant "epitome", which means the exact essence of something, or rather, the perfect example of something. So this man is the "perfect example of strength". Stoicism basically means enduring pain and hardship not only without complaint, but also facing it head on, voluntarily. It's deeper than that, but that's my best summary I think! Hope that helps, and doesn't come off condescending.
/r/AntiFeminists02/01/22 09:53 PM
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"You give an ugly guy a chance, he thinks he rules the world" Is that not a blanket statement denigrating all men, ugly or not? So because you dated an ugly asshole, now that means her statement is correct? You do realize that is what you just implied, right?
/r/AntiFeminists02/01/22 09:47 PM
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It never ends...
/r/AntiFeminists18/12/21 03:46 PM
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Yep... Also, talking about my problems with severe suicidal ideation (especially self harm) gets shunned by damn near every single person I open up to.
/r/MensRights04/12/21 09:35 PM
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I never made any kind of claim about rape jokes or men... so I'm not sure why you're being so hostile about it... Um, yeah it's not obvious when you EXPLICITLY say NO women actually believe in "killallmen", when hundreds of people on this very site genuinely believe in it... and then, in classic reddit fashion, you proceed to be both condescending and presumptuous. Ah, yes fix your claim to actually be accurate please. Either be precise in your speech or check your shitty fucking attitude when s…
/r/MensRights11/10/21 11:35 PM
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How do you know NO women seriously believe in "killallmen"?
/r/MensRights11/10/21 10:35 PM
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Yeah, tell me about it. Luckily not all people are like that, but it gets pretty disheartening when it feels like it's everywhere.
/r/MensRights05/10/21 06:40 PM
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If this post is depressing, I highly recommend you avoid heightism exposed, or any other similar subs and accounts. Many men are literally suicidal over this stuff.
/r/MensRights05/10/21 05:17 PM
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Bruh. She victim blamed you when you told her you were raped. You don't need to ask us our opinions, this should be completely obvious.
/r/MensRights20/09/21 11:27 PM
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I get that. I really don't think most people are like you and would classify depression as a solid reason though, especially if you add self harm on top of it. Most of the time, people see it as attention seeking, being a crybaby, or just simply being ungrateful for the lives we do have. Idk. Just my two cents.
/r/MensRights20/09/21 07:49 PM
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Eh, I have pretty severe depression and thus poor emotional stability... So one could say that it's a "crying fit" if they see it that way (since apparently many do), but in person, as an adult, I've literally only ever been told to "man up" and other platitudes by women.
/r/MensRights20/09/21 04:13 PM
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Exactly. Don't ever try telling people if you harm yourself, because holy shit the names I've been called for opening up about it, they honestly just further motivated me. I've pretty much accepted now that I can't tell people I'm suicidal, because they just don't even care anyway, so it's a waste of time and energy, and just makes me feel worse afterwards.
/r/MensRights14/09/21 06:18 PM
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Wannabe Trads? Unsure what that means, so I'll just ask who here has tried to control people in the opposite way? Having zero respect for someone that pays their bills by creating porn is not the same as tyrannically removing their rights to do so. Okay, so in your view there is NO respectability applied to making income? Is that a fair reading of your argument? So why strive to do anything great then? Why do we presume to respect doctors and astronauts and firemen? Are the people killed aboard …
/r/AntiFeminists23/07/21 05:00 PM
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Metzitzah B'peh
/r/MensRights14/07/21 09:28 PM
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Seriously? Worst post I've seen on here by far. Dude, this is anti feminist, meaning against a specific ideology... not anti woman, meaning against half of the fucking planet... Horrible hateful title OP. This is garbage.
/r/AntiFeminists16/06/21 08:20 AM
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You just victim blamed people who were murdered because they likely shared the same gender as the murderer... Hmm, so if a little girl is abused, by her mother... is that little girl at fault for being born female? Or is that one also men's fault? Ah wait, I don't care about your response, since you clearly don't have enough compassion to even care about suicide and murder victims.
/r/MensRights18/05/21 08:13 PM
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Literal victim blaming
/r/AntiFeminists01/05/21 05:06 PM
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Except for when a guy does and then they use that vulnerability against them... which for me has happened multiple times... so now I ONLY am vulnerable to my guy friends. It might be the dudes who are afraid of looking "gay", but often women will use that as some sort of insult against us if we so much as reject their advances. I'm thinking people are to blame for this, not one or the other.
/r/MensRights15/04/21 07:20 PM
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She's seems like a pedophile for saying that a grown adult woman that is shaved immediately makes her think of a child.
/r/MensRights29/03/21 03:40 PM
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Not all Islamic countries are the same... It has a lot to do with it when the religion literally dictates when and how to cut off the labia and mutilate the clitoris... Religion is a deep part of the culture dude... read the Quran and tell me it has nothing to do with it.
/r/AntiFeminists24/03/21 05:26 PM
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lol okay... You seem so ideologically dependent on your religion that you refuse to believe any bad can be done in it's name, so much that you espouse hatred toward apostates... Don't bother replying, I've read enough of the dogma of your religion I don't need to converse with an ideologue.
/r/AntiFeminists24/03/21 05:23 PM
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Read about Female Genital Mutilation in Islamic countries.
/r/AntiFeminists24/03/21 06:36 AM
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Ha, well I wouldn't classify Somalia as the middle east, but the Female Genital Mutilation rate in Somalia is well over 90%... about 7 million girls being mutilated... this is common in Islamic countries, which as you know, the middle east has plenty of.
/r/AntiFeminists24/03/21 06:35 AM
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"So, I suppose if a little girl is abused by a parent it's her fault because that abuse is more often committed by a woman?" It's literally victim blaming based on unalterable traits one is born with.
/r/MensRights18/03/21 02:04 PM
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Haha why the fuck would I want a feminist to do that? I love how you just say I'm quite wrong and then quell any possible discussion or understanding, without even attempting to explain how I'm wrong. Pretty pathetic, and in fact, just shows you're unwilling to approach the topic with nuance instead of emotion.
/r/MensRights31/01/21 11:21 PM
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I think it is more likely than you may think, but yes I agree. And I absolutely agree on all the other accounts! Apologies for any hostilities or misinterpretation. I think we largely agree on this one.
/r/MensRights31/01/21 09:53 PM
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I'm not sure I'm following you; do you mean, literal strength of women JUST because their women? Like the new Charlie's Angel's where the women are portrayed as strong amazing badasses JUST because they're women, and not actually skilled or strong? Because if that's what you're talking about then I totally agree. I'm just saying, that despite size and strength discrepancies, there are several women that have enough skill to beat a guy who has no skill or training whatsoever. Because the skill di…
/r/MensRights31/01/21 09:38 PM
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Ha, I doubt that will ever happen for sport, at least not in the West. And I hope it never does, that would be very bad. But to be unwilling or unable to admit that it is possible for SOME women to win against SOME men is absolutely pathetic.
/r/MensRights31/01/21 09:23 PM
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You're aware that a man weighing 125 pounds with a black belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu can easily submit, choke out, or kill a man weighing 200 pounds that has never fought before... right? Size and strength are very important, especially in grappling and often striking of course; but if the fight goes to the ground, which 80% of them do, it becomes about technique, knowledge, and leverage more than anything. The strongest most effective woman can beat MANY men, but the strongest most effective ma…
/r/MensRights31/01/21 09:18 PM
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Yeah, I'm aware of that. But there are plenty of men, even ones who have done martial arts, that would get destroyed by Amanda Nunez, Valentina Shevchenko, and many other women... even guys bigger than them. Skill takes much higher priority than upper body strength, in a fight. I'm not denying the science, and the completely OBVIOUS huge advantage men have in physical combat, but to assume that NO WOMAN could beat you is very naive, and frankly, odd.
/r/MensRights31/01/21 09:11 PM
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You did martial arts and you actually believe the strength imbalance is the deciding factor? How long did you do martial arts buddy, because you seem full of shit, and like you're afraid to admit that you MIGHT not be able to beat literally every single woman in a fight. Hey also, by the way, you could get your point across a lot better if you were actually genuine, and not just insulting people who disagree with you like a pissy little child, you prick.
/r/MensRights31/01/21 09:00 PM
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Uhh, yeah dude, I don't know your size, strength, or skill, but I'd bet you would probably get absolutely wrecked by Amanda Nunes.
/r/MensRights31/01/21 08:51 PM
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