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Of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:44 PM
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Because I’m showing off… Because I like the attention….
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:22 PM
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In my opinion. The best dating advice is just to try harder. If you are handsome and you can’t get babes you need to try harder to generate more leads through OLD or skee-ball league. If you are ugly but very social and you still can’t get a date? You probably need to work out or focus on grooming. Some people have it easier it’s true. But I don’t believe anyone is so bad as to be good for nothing. Nobody is a total lost cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:11 PM
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Yeah even take double entendre for example. It’s super effective because I think it displays your boldness and your cleverness. When I was a kid I would bite my tongue and never make clever jokes or turns of phrase that were bawdy or crude. Now I find it to be one of the most effective techniques, implicating the two of you in some romantic or sexual situation without actually saying anything explicitly sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:06 PM
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Yeah but I wouldn’t advise anyone to jump a motorcycle over their coke dealers house for a potential discount. Haha even though it is pretty freaking rad. Edit: This is all relative I mean I still had plenty of success with women, just less than some more risk taking, aggressive, dudes. I tell you what though, all the moms/parents wanted me dating their daughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:53 PM
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Well the concept of using double entendre or innuendo or god forbid touching someone without extremely explicit consent was always something I was cautioned against. However, those things are pretty much necessary for flirting and courtship. I think this is part of the problem these days. Some men were brought up like myself to believe that they are inherently sick violent predators and pretty much every woman will perceive you as such. So we all over correct and take a very passive approach to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:45 PM
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I’ve pondered this a lot. I can’t make sense of it. I’ve learned though that you can be a good guy and still utilize tactics that help “bad boys” succeed. For instance being bold, spontaneous, teasing/bantering, escalating things through physical touch and double entendre, better me than some aggressive dickhead.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 05:52 PM
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When you’re young it’s almost “lame” to care about your future, or your schoolwork or your well being, or staying out of legal trouble. Why is that? Why can’t being responsible be sexy?! lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 05:37 PM
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It’s super common out there in the world. They taught a lot of young men to be modern, enlightened, gentlemen, but nobody ever thought to warn girls against their biases towards risk taking, rakish, rogues.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 04:48 PM
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Wordddd I like this. Too many people just bail as soon as it’s no longer easy, convenient, and “fun”.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 07:53 PM
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You can’t say that anti social behavior is somehow natural and the function of evolution. Maybe it is the way of the world right now. But I disagree that it’s somehow evolutionarily advantageous to be a violent jerk. Edit: Also ghengis khan was only like a few hundred years ago. That’s just not enough time to qualify for an evolutionary analysis. Especially considering that culture is plastic within a lifetime. So there’s no way to test, confirm, or falsify the adaptation of a certain behavior. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:30 PM
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I think it’s an opportunity and probability thing. I was raised on some BS cultural convention that I shouldn’t sexualize women and I should take a passive approach to ensure I never make anyone uncomfortable. I think decent men listened to that social programming. So who is left doing the approaching? Dark triad dudes who don’t give a shit about the rules or anyones feelings. Edit: Also good dudes tend to get locked down. Assholes get back on the first date hamster wheel. They get really good a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:27 PM
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I agree that things will fall into your lap if you’re just a social person. I’d caveat that you still have to get out there and mix it up with people. Especially if you can show yourself to be someone of import in a social situation. It’s powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:27 PM
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Evolutionarily psychology is proof? Prove it….
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:55 AM
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The dating scene would be better if everyone went to therapy. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 07:50 PM
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Some of that “don’t hate the player”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 07:11 PM
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I’m not hating, it’s a rhetorical question. I just argue that there is a “better way”. I get really exhausted of the prominent idea in this sub that humans are “naturally” jealous, violent, war-like hoarders of mates and wealth. There’s really no way to prove that preferences of the day are just preferences or “natural”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:43 PM
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So should we go through life, constantly acting on our most base desires? Also I’d counter that being prosocial is just as evolutionarily advantageous. There’s really no way to prove one leads to greater “fitness” than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:29 PM
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I don’t know but they’re coming out of the woodwork since I turned 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:04 PM
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I like you. I’m curious how you would meet a romantic partner in a perfect world?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:42 PM
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One of those hassles is your wife telling you to go to the doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:15 PM
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What about the women who are flattered by a those advances? You should know…. “WoMeN aReNt A mOnOlITh”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:12 PM
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I cant set this up more simply for you, stop changing the rules. Again, between two INDIVIDUALS of similar attractiveness….
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:29 PM
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I’m just being facetious. I think these kind of posts imply a basic level of “having shit together” we can all agree that fat people covered in barnacles are not what we’re talking about. And going down that rabbit hole is just avoiding the crux of the argument. A normal lady with a healthy weight and grooming is going to have more options next to a comparable gentleman. And it’s not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:52 PM
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Because they’re both legitimate strategies
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:40 PM
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I think the pre packaged response to this is “those things are bare minimum, sorry”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:37 PM
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I just want to point out that there are people here who can get laid and have had multiple meaningful relationships. Sometimes people have had no lack of success or opportunity. Sometimes the people here are jaded because they have had success or have had long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:27 PM
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I would argue that it’s one of the root causes of the issues we see today. Owing to the built in jealousy and ownership over your spouse in these traditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:24 PM
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People underestimate the importance of culture and social bonds in humans. The whole narrative is about how we are killer apes who are naturally polygynous and kill each other for mating opportunities (big and strong is good). There is evidence though, that humans (and close relatives) can create cultures where being the most socially gifted is as or more important in obtaining and maintaining status and therefore reproductive success. Alpha male chimps will form strong bonds and cabals with big…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:22 PM
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Alpha fucks, beta buxx. It’s a colloquial term to describe what evolutionary psychologists might call the “mixed strategy”. Where a lady settles for a guy who can provide stability. Either keeping the door open to affairs from perceived “alpha types” or retiring from chasing those types to “settle” with a guy who doesn’t excite her so much but has available resources and stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 10:18 PM
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I feel like we do this already. All kids are taught to be kind and caring. But these individuals still somehow choose this dark, shitty strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:19 PM
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DM/HS
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:26 PM
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Yup. I’ve been the AF and I’ve also been the BB. I don’t believe I did anything wildly different in the two relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:41 PM
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Red pill is just observing the sick world we live in and becoming sick to fit in.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:34 PM
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It’s all about being reasonable and fair. What I don’t understand is the lack of compromise on both sides, Or willful ignorance about how the situation would make you feel if the roles were reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:26 PM
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It starts with accountability. Which is a major issue for both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:44 PM
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It is a numbers game dominated by people who don’t care about rejection or making someone uncomfortable. I agree more good men need to do the pursuing. I think that starts with ending the myth that women are rarely receptive to advances and constantly fearing for their life around men. Maybe they actually want romantic and sexual attention. Maybe men aren’t as violent and scary as we’ve been told. Just maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:34 PM
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It’s a lot of work and it can be worth it. Nobody is so bad as to be good for nothing. HOWEVER… it’s not anyone’s responsibility to fix anyone else and people should realize that their baggage is going to affect their partner. Don’t be all surprised and hurt when your golden retriever BF who spent his whole life being a gentleman is bummed out that you gangbanged the entire galaxy. Either work with them or leave, don’t act like they’re an asshole for not accepting your life choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:21 PM
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I disagree. I think it’s because younger women are more susceptible to certain tactics. Therefore easier to exploit. The only issue is you can’t raise the age of legal adulthood to 30 when women start to value the things that make a good partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:18 PM
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This is true in certain cultural structures. I would counter that in certain societies today and certainly in our nomadic hunter gatherer past, women were more free with their favor because parentage was less understood. There are societies that believe that all male contributions affect the quality of offspring, so a woman will sleep with a tall guy, a good hunter, a kind gentleman, so that her child might be a combination of them all. The babies with the “most fathers” tend to be very well loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 10:12 PM
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We’re definitely different. I guess it depends on how you define horniness. I can only have sex a few times a day. Women can have sex all day long and orgasm every single time. Furthermore, even chimp females (the ones who are supposed to be slaves to violent polygyny) will sneak off to bang males from neighboring troops. Once I’m satisfied i don’t care much about sex for at LEAST 30 minutes to an hour. Different sure, but not more or less promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 10:05 PM
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Ah but would we really need chastity belts if women were NATURALLY chaste? If it was NATURAL for women to be choosy (for instance to avoid stds) then why the female genital mutilation?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:49 PM
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False. The idea that women are the choosier sex is to do with the standard narrative of human sexuality being described by Christian dudes in the 19th century. If women are so chaste why are there women getting stoned to death for adultery in some parts of the world? Surely the death penalty would be a good reason to stick with your husband, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:28 PM
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False. I’d love to see anything that approaches evidence How many times can you do it in a day? If females are so chaste, why all the safeguards protecting their purity? How do you explain cultures where women are the ones doing the sport fucking and enjoying every second of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:19 PM
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I just mean less emphasis on nuclear families and more emphasis on strong communities. Imagine if we had discovered bonobos before chimpanzees, how different the intellectual landscape would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:12 PM
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You should read up on the agricultural revolution and how it affected quality of life. Technology and everything is great but it seems like the diets and social lives of ancestral hunter gatherers led to happier people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:08 PM
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I would say that it’s our cultures insistence on monogamy and puritanical values around sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:04 PM
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I think accepting it halts the decline. The culture we have created around these issues is the problem. Fortunately, culture is maleable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:43 PM
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I just think jealousy and resource hoarding are the problem. IMHO
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:36 PM
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I think we gotta let monogamy go.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:10 PM
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Omnigamy is the answer. It’s already happening just stop lying about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:08 PM
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Men are not hornier than women. That is one of those lies we are told that is totally baseless.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:00 PM
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Exactly. Stop rewarding this type of behavior… the bullies exploit the phenomenon, they didn’t create it….
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:56 PM
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If only people stopped talking about the way you should act and just did those things instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:54 PM
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It will continue this way unless there is a culture shift.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:10 PM
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Their whole narrative is based on how Darwin and his contemporaries viewed sex and relationships. Just as we may be predisposed towards violence and hoarding wealth, there are examples of close ape relatives and human cultures who have wildly different cultures around sex. Edit: Just wanted to add that I kinda understand why they do this. Red pill works, they looked at the biases of the times and cater to them. Why fight the system and be lonely when you can exploit it and succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:09 PM
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My god…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:19 PM
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Good men respond to signals like “I’m busy” or “I have a boyfriend” bad men don’t. swoon “confidence”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:16 PM
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Gotta train them to be social while they’re young.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:03 PM
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Not anymore, we’re changing the culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:54 PM
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Be relationship material to one, but never stop being hookup material to all the rest. Hannah Montana, baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:53 PM
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The whole point is you can’t say a behavior is the result of evolution UNLESS there’s some ubiquitous behavior over generations. Evolutionary psychology shows that the only trait that women reliably choose in experiments is the one who is different from the rest in some novel way, so height sure, could be that novelty. It could also be anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:33 PM
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You’re brainwashed dude. You misunderstand evolution. It’s cope for you to ignore science and just listen to internet propaganda. If human mate selection were as you understand it, where women choose the fittest person based on their body type. Then people living in the cold would be predisposed to choose short stocky men who retain heat better. But I know girls in the coldest parts of America who still insist on dating a tall skinny guy. Culture, NOT hard wired biases are what inform modern hum…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 10:11 PM
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I replied to another comment making exactly that point, sexual selection doesn’t necessarily lead to more fitness in a population. Which further confounds the arguments that human female mate selection is based on some hard wired bias of women towards what is “fitness”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 10:04 PM
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You just made a point for my case, society and culture dictate the flavor of the day. And until recently nobody knew anything about health to make claims or mate choices as to what was healthy let alone what might make you more likely to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 10:02 PM
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It is a naturalistic fallacy, people assume being big is good because they see big elk winning the females, but there are just as many examples of being small or fast or clever having an advantage in nature. As for sexual selection choosing the smaller individuals there’s a classic example of snakes presenting female characteristics to sneak themselves into the position of mating. Furthermore sexual selection doesn’t necessarily result in fitter populations. Peacock feathers actively make peacoc…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:39 PM
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False. Being big and strong can decrease fitness as much as it increases it. Fitness just means who is more likely to reproduce. I don’t care if you’re big and strong, if I’m fucking your wife while you’re hunting… then who is the fittest?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:32 PM
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Small or no the difference would have a more concrete effect on fitness than a trait that might affect mate choice which is more complex and can be affected by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:24 PM
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Evolutionary theory is good for analyzing how bodies and metabolisms came to be. But it kinda fails at explaining complex behaviors. To say “women like tall guys because it’s natural, tall guys are bigger and stronger, better protectors” is a naturalistic fallacy. Where calories are hard to come by, being large is a huge disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:45 PM
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Say on sir! What is your preferred naturalistic fallacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:31 PM
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Because men don’t feel comfortable criticizing a woman. All the social programming in modern times is to treat women like fragile holy artifacts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:31 PM
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I think people in general will move towards open relationships and stronger communities. That’s my glass half full.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 05:59 PM
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Omnigamy. That’s my optimistic opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 05:39 PM
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Culture is the driving force in what people find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 05:36 PM
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At this point I think it’s almost a revenge thing but it does make me feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 05:18 PM
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It’s all culture. You want things to be different we gotta try to change the culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:56 PM
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I would argue that monogamy is less common. Humans tend to lean towards poly/gyny/andry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:34 PM
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Abusers come in all forms. Just don’t marry one of those broads. If she shows signs of being a toxic demon lady then tell her to work on herself and go find someone new.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:50 PM
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Just people spouting their enlightened, modern views. Only to live their lives according to their base desires and biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 08:12 PM
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I think “nice guy” just means guy who doesn’t feel comfortable taking a risk on making someone else uncomfortable. Which is unavoidable if you’re making romantic advances. “Nice guys” just need to learn that they might actually be sexy and might actually receive positive outcomes from sexualizing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:57 PM
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Being yourself and being mentally healthy are not indicators of your success with women. Unhealthy psychos who know what women want get laid all the time. I would say that not giving a shit what people think and being a chameleon are great for getting laid and that’s like textbook sociopathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:32 PM
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Im not some rich movie star but I think I’ve gotten laid just because I’m a strong 8/10 with an impressive sounding job. This is in SPITE of having a dorky, midwestern gentleman personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:14 PM
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Tell it to the people who leave 20yr marriages over this exact thing lol. People these days can’t stop comparing their lives to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:07 PM
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But god forbid if you were ever within 60 yards of another woman. CHEATER!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:03 PM
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I think a lot of the things red pill believes are true and good observations. I don’t necessarily agree that it’s the best way to live your life constantly pandering to the lowest common denominator of humans base desires and biases. Gotta have hope that there are enlightened people out there who aren’t just after your money or good looks. But if you just want to get laid, red pill is pretty spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 04:58 PM
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It’s called “exploring” and “finding yourself” I thought this was an accepted practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 04:48 PM
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Yeah it sucks that as a man you are assumed to be a violent psycho. And every time you open your mouth to talk about it someone jumps down your throat with the “men kill and harass women all the time” rigamarole.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 04:44 PM
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I just don’t really believe in monogamy so go nuts. But so will I.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:39 PM
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What is morally right or wrong is not a factor. People will do that they have to do to get the out one they want. And people in general will get exactly what they deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:34 PM
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For a man, yes. It’s a problem and girls will have an absolute fit over it. Never turned down a girl who didn’t immediately have a melt down.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:30 PM
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