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| 1 | Double standards regarding punishments for rapistsYes, many men are circumcised. My main point is that circumcision is not comparable to FGM, and the statistics I linked are to show that you were wrong about downplaying the severity of what FGM is. Also, that caveat doesn’t mean “ignore the findings.” It means the dataset has incomplete reporting fields and should be interpreted cautiously, which is standard in public health datasets, especially with this kind of thing. Even with those limitations, the NHS reports repeatedly found the same patt… | /r/MensRights | 13/05/26 10:25 PM |
| 1 | Double standards regarding punishments for rapistsWhat comments of mine are sexist? As for the first article you linked, that is horrific and should not be happening. However, I don't think that negates my argument that fgm is more prolific, and I still don't know whether you classify circumcision as mgm across the board. Regarding male victimization and female perpetration of violence, the statistics are extremely disturbing and we obviously have an epidemic of sexual violence happening to both genders. Also, I think you’re right about “made t… | /r/MensRights | 12/05/26 09:55 PM |
| 0 | Double standards regarding punishments for rapistsI disagree. Here is my evidence: https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/violence-against-women https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/11637 https://www.humboldt.edu/supporting-survivors/educational-resources/statistics#:\~:text=An%20estimated%2091%25%20of%20victims,99%25%20of%20perpetrators%20are%20male. https://www.ined.fr/en/publications/editions/population-and-societies/sexual-violence-against-men-is-committed-by-other-males-mainly-during-childhood https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/sexual-as… | /r/MensRights | 12/05/26 09:28 PM |
| 0 | Double standards regarding punishments for rapistsSource? I believe you're talking about Type IV of fgm, and even then that classification also includes more severe practices of fgm. Even so, where the FGM type is known, Type 1 has a 35% incidence, and 2 has a 31% incidence (https://digital.nhs.uk/data-and-information/publications/statistical/female-genital-mutilation/female-genital-mutilation-fgm-april-2015-to-march-2016-experimental-statistics). Also, I don't believe fgm and male circumcision are comparable. I do agree that both violate bodil… | /r/MensRights | 12/05/26 08:41 PM |
| -7 | Double standards regarding punishments for rapistsThat was pretty hostile imo. I think being charitable in these kinds of conversations is the most productive, and I don't believe I'm being sexist, but I'm open to feedback. Anyway, I'm a little unclear on whether we're defining mgm the same way. I don't define circumcision as mgm even though I do think it's wrong as I believe that's not comparable to fgm, though I'd like to know whether you equate mgm with male circumcision. 230 million girls and women have experienced fgm, and I don't believe … | /r/MensRights | 12/05/26 02:02 AM |
| -7 | Double standards regarding punishments for rapistsYeah, I think a lot of people feel very strongly about punishments for male rapists, because they perpetrate that violence disproportionately and tend to get away with it (not saying across the board, but just in a lot of women's personal experiences which I think we should take into account if we want to evaluate someone's point of view charitably). Obviously, we should not do any genital mutilation to anyone, but women's genital mutilation I believe carries a heavier connotation, because it ac… | /r/MensRights | 12/05/26 12:30 AM |
| -3 | Why is that when women get confronted for their actions, us men get called gay for it?I think the term they were looking for is homosocial. When men insult women (like saying they are hot but then making a sweeping generalization that is not at all flattering) it kind of seems like men would do better engaging in romantic relationships with other men, rather than the gender they find evil. | /r/MensRights | 12/05/26 12:25 AM |
| -6 | Why the hell should a man consider marriage?Well, I think men actually receive more benefits than women in marriage: https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/marriage-and-mens-health?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4857885/ https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/behavioral-and-brain-sciences/article/abs/romantic-relationships-matter-more-to-men-than-to-women/52E626D3CD7DB14CD946F9A2FBDA739C Additionally, as put by someone in r/sociology: "[I]f you were to calculate the 'surplus value' of women's unpaid l… | /r/MensRights | 12/05/26 12:23 AM |
| 0 | Liberal/leftist women are the biggest hypocritesDating is very different from actual rights. Women are allowed to not like most men romantically, just like men are allowed to feel the same way for women. Yes, people should probably not be so rude about it, but it is a completely different ball game than structural liberation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/25 11:02 PM |
| 1 | Why are ao many of you that concerned with the "masculinity crisis"?It's genuinely commendable that you supported boys who were failed by many adults in their lives. That said, the failure isn’t due to social constructionism or women educators - many women advocate for equity and individualized support. The issue is rigid, outdated systems that don’t account for different learning and emotional needs. Instead of rejecting "female socialization," we should expand education to support all expressions of vulnerability and strength, regardless of gender. You're righ… | /r/MensRights | 22/07/25 07:04 PM |
| 1 | Why are ao many of you that concerned with the "masculinity crisis"?What’s more, I have nothing but respect for the men who put their lives on the line to do jobs no one else wants/can do. I think the disconnect here is that I’m not looking at it from the viewpoint that they are men, but more from the viewpoint that they are working class, and the way I think we can truly give them compensation and recognition for their work and sacrifices is full citizenship status (if they do not have it already), worker’s protections, safer conditions, strong unions with actu… | /r/MensRights | 22/07/25 02:15 PM |
| 1 | Why are ao many of you that concerned with the "masculinity crisis"?First off, I want to start by saying I am deeply sorry for what you went through as a child; no one should have to go through that. I hope you are surrounded by better people now and are living your life to the fullest. Secondly, I believe I may have inadvertently mischaracterized some of my beliefs, as I am perfectly comfortable with ascribing negative motives to women and positive ones to men. I know a couple female narcissists and a lot of just generally lacking women. I should clarify - I’ve… | /r/MensRights | 22/07/25 02:15 PM |
| 1 | Why are ao many of you that concerned with the "masculinity crisis"?No problem! I was being inflammatory so I get it lol In your opinion, what is different about men and women that makes it a positive thing for women to display femininity, but contemptible when men do it? Because most women who are surrounded by this and the young boys who are inculcated with this perspective end up believing femininity is inferior. This view simply cannot be held or taught without demonizing femininity, and by extension, women. As for your point about men's bodies being seen as… | /r/MensRights | 22/07/25 12:45 AM |
| 1 | Why are ao many of you that concerned with the "masculinity crisis"?Hey, I wanted to start by apologizing - I accidentally confused part of your comment with someone else’s I was also responding to on this thread or maybe another one. The thing I said about “downplaying women’s fear” and the “modern feminist invention” bit definitely wasn’t meant for you. I think I got wires crossed when you gave that stat and then someone else said something about women being taught to fear men even though they’re safe - I kind of blended your points together in my head. That w… | /r/MensRights | 21/07/25 07:57 PM |
| 1 | Why are ao many of you that concerned with the "masculinity crisis"?You’re right that men are more likely to be victims of public violence (stranger assaults, muggings, etc.), but that doesn’t invalidate the distinct risks women face in private, particularly in the home - a place that’s supposed to be safe. Women aren’t more at risk everywhere, but the pattern of violence they experience is uniquely intimate, persistent, and often inescapable. As for women having “immunity” from public violence, not really. They’re often targeted differently: harassment, sexual … | /r/MensRights | 21/07/25 06:44 PM |
| 1 | Why are ao many of you that concerned with the "masculinity crisis"?I’m a sociology major for your reference and there is no such thing as feminism class, but what I think you are trying to say is that I am indoctrinated. I read that book extracurricularly and have read many others on the topic, so it is nowhere near the source of my beliefs on masculinity in today’s society. I use mentioned that book because I believe it is a good introduction to looking at what we see occurring in today’s society gender relations wise both more empathetically and critically. b… | /r/MensRights | 17/07/25 02:06 AM |
| 0 | Why are ao many of you that concerned with the "masculinity crisis"?Yes, men experience more violence overall, that’s true, especially in public spaces, and especially at the hands of other men. But when people say women are “especially” vulnerable, we’re not saying they’re the most murdered or most assaultedl we’re talking about the type, context, and impact of violence they face. And that context matters a lot more than raw numbers. Most violence against men happens in public (bar fights, gang violence, random altercations) and again, almost always at the hand… | /r/MensRights | 16/07/25 04:29 PM |
| 1 | Feminists have, sadly, gotten good at counter messagingYou're arguing that I'm applying inconsistent standards, but what's actually happening is that you're flattening contextual differences between two very different kinds of claims. Sexual assault and false allegations are not symmetrical phenomena - socially, statistically, or procedurally - and pretending they should be treated identically is what creates the illusion of bias. We trust victim surveys (like the NCVS or NISVS) not because they’re anecdotal, but because they’re systematically desig… | /r/MensRights | 16/07/25 02:20 PM |
| -1 | Why are ao many of you that concerned with the "masculinity crisis"?I’m not denying that men are often victims of violence too - that’s absolutely true, especially when it comes to public violence, gang violence, or violence between strangers. But when we say women are “especially” vulnerable, we’re talking about the kind of violence they’re most likely to face: sexual violence, stalking, and intimate partner violence. Those are crimes that are overwhelmingly committed by men against women, usually in private, often by someone they know. Men being victims of str… | /r/MensRights | 16/07/25 01:57 PM |
| -1 | Why are ao many of you that concerned with the "masculinity crisis"?I don’t believe I willfully misunderstood anything, but I apologize if I misinterpreted anything you said please correct me! Also, it seemed to me that you were saying women have no reason to be afraid of men as a whole because of your statistic. Saying it needs context reads as a way of downplaying it. I agree though I definitely could’ve put it in a less inflammatory way and was kind of anticipating you to bash feminism as many of your counterparts do, but I agree it was unfair to claim that’s… | /r/MensRights | 16/07/25 10:30 AM |
| -1 | Why are ao many of you that concerned with the "masculinity crisis"?That is masculinity under the patriarchy! A man’s masculinity is determined by his capacity for violence (I would recommend reading bell hooks “Will to change” if you want all the context and background for everything). What do you think it is in practice? Not in some utopia but in the real world, what type of man is considered masculine? Also, just because women find that attractive doesn’t make it morally right. So many women have been socialized to choose men that display unhealthy behavioral… | /r/MensRights | 16/07/25 10:19 AM |
| -3 | Why are ao many of you that concerned with the "masculinity crisis"?Thanks for your response! Firstly, I want to point out that you're acting like women’s fear of men is some dramatic overreaction or modern feminist invention, when the truth is, it’s just pattern recognition. Women are raised to be cautious around men because, statistically, they have to be. Men commit the vast majority of violent crime - we’re talking nearly 90% of homicides, over 90% of sexual assaults, the overwhelming majority of mass shootings, domestic violence, stalking - you name it. The… | /r/MensRights | 16/07/25 12:42 AM |
| -4 | Why are ao many of you that concerned with the "masculinity crisis"?LMAO I'm afraid you can't declare victory quite yet, I was gonna come back to that discussion tomorrow while I am nannying cause while the baby naps I have a decent amount of time to respond, and I believe our conversation will necessitate me writing a decent amount to fully get to all your points. Also honestly I was arguing multiple people on that topic with you and kinda got tired of it (emotionally burdensome and all that), but I will come back to it tomorrow! I appreciate your commitment to… | /r/MensRights | 16/07/25 12:15 AM |
| -14 | Why are ao many of you that concerned with the "masculinity crisis"?Who are the violent criminals? Men. Something about when men are raised to be masculine makes the world a very dangerous place for both other men and especially women. Masculinity is measured by a man’s capacity for violence and one’s expressions of aggression. It’s the violent, masculine men doing the violence, not feminine men. Women actually feel safe with feminine men, whereas masculine men make women cover their drinks when they’re around and make sure their friends have their location on d… | /r/MensRights | 15/07/25 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Feminists have, sadly, gotten good at counter messagingI appreciate the nuance you're trying to bring in and acknowledging grey areas is important. But what you're doing here is conflating epistemic uncertainty (we can't know everything) with statistical credibility (what the best data actually supports). That’s a huge difference. Yes, some researchers include a wide possible range (like 2–70%), but those higher bracket numbers come from extremely flawed, non-replicable, or anecdotal law enforcement estimates, often based on suspicion rather than co… | /r/MensRights | 11/07/25 10:14 PM |
| 0 | Feminists have, sadly, gotten good at counter messagingThank you for your response! I was comparing Lisak’s study’s reliability/reproducibility to the studies you were referencing (I inferred which ones those were as I have heard that talking point a few times and located its most likely source). For context, a lot of the inflated “false allegation” numbers floating around (like 40% or even 70%) come from flawed or deeply misrepresented sources. The most common one is the Kanin (1994) study, which looked at just 56 cases in one small-town police dep… | /r/MensRights | 10/07/25 02:04 PM |
| 0 | I feel like being a man who is attracted to women can often give one an inferiority complex.Idk about this cause I have the opposite experience. So many women have absolutely no self-respect so will seek out relationships with some fuck ass men and allow themselves to be treated like shit all for a crumb of masculine validation. | /r/MensRights | 09/07/25 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Feminists have, sadly, gotten good at counter messagingStill didn't answer my question king: how am I brainwashed? Also, you have to admit I'm right about all the other things I said. Additionally, you're right that sexual assault is hard to prove, especially when it often comes down to one person’s word against another’s. But that doesn't fully explain why so many cases never even make it to court, let alone end in conviction. Survivors are often met with disbelief, victim-blaming, or told their case isn't “strong enough” to pursue. The system isn’… | /r/MensRights | 09/07/25 02:17 PM |
| 1 | Feminists have, sadly, gotten good at counter messagingAppreciate both of your perspectives, especially the thoughtful points on how women's fear isn’t irrational but contextual, shaped by widespread patterns of violence and complicity, not just individual anecdotes. That nuance often gets lost in these convos. I also appreciate you being open about your experience, and I’m glad you’re in a better place now. And not to sound pretentious, but I just want to say, you didn’t “make bad decisions” by getting drunk around people you should have been able … | /r/MensRights | 09/07/25 02:02 PM |
| 0 | Feminists have, sadly, gotten good at counter messagingYou're conflating legal process with real-world patterns. Yes, in court both SA and false allegations are handled as accusations with a presumption of innocence, but socially and systemically, they are not treated equally. False allegations are often assumed without evidence when someone is acquitted. But acquittal does not equal proof of a false allegation, just like conviction does not equal definitive proof something happened. The best research (e.g. Lisak et al., 2010) estimates false report… | /r/MensRights | 09/07/25 01:29 PM |
| 0 | Feminists have, sadly, gotten good at counter messagingStill not kidding at all: there is a well-documented hesitation to go after rapists. Only about 1 in 3 sexual assaults are reported, and out of 1,000, only about 25 lead to prison (RAINN). Police often mishandle or drop cases, rape kits go untested for years, and institutions protect reputations over victims. That’s the hesitation people are talking about. | /r/MensRights | 09/07/25 12:53 AM |
| 0 | Feminists have, sadly, gotten good at counter messagingNope, not kidding! I get where you’re coming from, being falsely accused is a serious harm and shouldn’t be minimized. No one’s saying those cases shouldn’t be addressed. But the reason people hesitate to focus too much on false accusations is because they’re statistically insignificant and making them the central concern shifts the conversation away from the much more widespread issue of sexual violence. When people say “don’t make too big a deal about false accusations,” they’re not saying the… | /r/MensRights | 09/07/25 12:37 AM |
| 0 | Feminists have, sadly, gotten good at counter messagingThere is also serious hesitation and unwillingness to go after people who actually did the crimes my friend Also how am I brainwashed? | /r/MensRights | 09/07/25 12:03 AM |
| -1 | Feminists have, sadly, gotten good at counter messagingI get where you're coming from, but it is a false equivalence. Just because both are technically crimes doesn’t mean they play out the same way. False allegations are rare, and most never result in charges because they’re caught early; the legal system is already careful not to ruin someone’s life over nothing. But sexual assault survivors face disbelief, stigma, and almost impossible standards of proof, even when they’re telling the truth. Saying both are underreported or hard to prove ignores … | /r/MensRights | 09/07/25 12:02 AM |
| 1 | Feminists have, sadly, gotten good at counter messagingThank you for your reply! First off, I would like to acknowledge the reality that there likely are studies out there that define SA inconsistently with the general, colloquial definition of it. But also, it is important to remember that women are coming from a completely different place, so while a woman groping a man in a bar is absolutely unacceptable, a man may brush it off (as a result of socialization among other things) because he has not lived in a world of fear where things like that are… | /r/MensRights | 08/07/25 11:59 PM |
| 0 | Feminists have, sadly, gotten good at counter messagingLol. I'm not a bot (I think), it was a real question, and maybe I am just lacking some fundamental reading comprehension skills, but I was a little confused at what the commenter was saying. Additionally, I would say there is no argument for the stats being with people who imply that the real victims are men who are seemingly plagued by false accusations by women with ill-intent seeking to ruin lives and careers, while risking their own to do so. I know that's not exactly what you said, but that… | /r/MensRights | 08/07/25 05:35 PM |
| -2 | Feminists have, sadly, gotten good at counter messagingOkay not my comment getting ten downvotes goddamn I didn't think I said anything too controversial but so be it. Anways, your argument is a false equivalence, it has been proven time and time again that SA is chronically underreported, underprosecuded, and underconvicted. The systems for detecting and flagging false accusations already work in favor of the accused, often long before charges are even filed. This is apples to oranges, because one is about people trying to get justice and hitting b… | /r/MensRights | 08/07/25 05:21 PM |
| -15 | Feminists have, sadly, gotten good at counter messagingI'm so confused literally that whole paragraph makes absolute sense. How is it a double standard? The statistics are with the feminists ngl. | /r/MensRights | 08/07/25 01:20 AM |
| 1 | Feminism mistakes oligarchy as patriarchyAwesome! I would also recommend Women, Race & Class by Angela Davis. And thank you:) | /r/MensRights | 16/06/25 12:08 PM |
| 1 | Feminism mistakes oligarchy as patriarchyYes, there definitely are. Before we even get into the specific instances, consider the fact that in western society women have been seen as property for several centuries. There is no way that there are not still remnants of that in today's society. Now, for specific institutions, systems, and social constructions here are a few: In the workplace: - Wage disparity persists in the U.S.; women earn about 84–85 cents per dollar compared to men, with bigger gaps as age increases, which is linked to… | /r/MensRights | 15/06/25 01:41 PM |
| 1 | Feminism mistakes oligarchy as patriarchyAs a marxist feminist, I completely agree with your point. This is the problem with radical liberal feminism that these capitalists have weaponized to have victims of the system misattribute blame to make it harder for the working class to band together and organize. Yes, the social construction of gender plays a huge role in our socialization, but the biggest determinant of significant life outcomes is your socioeconomic status, not your gender. This is why intersectionality is so important, an… | /r/MensRights | 15/06/25 01:14 PM |
| 1 | Male violence is punished. Female narcissism rewrites your pain as hers.I disagree that invoking patriarchy as the root cause of the inequality we see in social systems is an instance of using DARVO. I think it is something more like AIVCA (“Acknowledge–Identify Victims–Contextualize–and–Address”): Acknowledge the experience of the group in question (i.e. men), identify the existing power structures and their impact on everyone and how everyone is a victim in some way or another of these institutions, contextualize the specific effect of patriarchy we are seeing and… | /r/MensRights | 02/06/25 04:26 PM |
| 1 | Male violence is punished. Female narcissism rewrites your pain as hers.Real. I think I should probs start doing that cause I am def a ranter, but hopefully my response will be coherent lol. Firstly, I agree with everything you said about how it is bad for a woman to cite insensitivity or a misunderstanding of trauma on the husband’s part when they try to question a boundary violation, though I suspect we would disagree on how often this occurs. In the Syal & Harsey 2027 article, it found that women were disproportionately targeted with DARVO tactics—such as denial,… | /r/MensRights | 02/06/25 04:26 PM |
| 1 | Male violence is punished. Female narcissism rewrites your pain as hers.Not the chatgpt lol Anyways, the study insights for each pattern say the same thing: toxic behavior is seen as more permissible in women than in men. I agree that this is a problem, but I think we can also chalk that up to the patriarchy. Essentially, in a patriarchical society men are expected to be providers, stoic, and strong, whereas women are expected to be nurturing, emotional, and victims. This leads to women's harmful behavior being minimized or excused because women are just emotional, … | /r/MensRights | 30/05/25 08:46 PM |
| 1 | An unexpectedly epic customer rant about "girl bosses" with a new (female) customer at my job"basically anything with some physical work that men all have to do extra bc women lack the physical strength" Yes, men average more upper-body strength, but jobs are designed to accommodate a range of abilities. The division of labor based on people's abilities and specializations is an integral part of a functioning society. For instance, if there are two nurses, one man and one woman and a patient that needs to be restrained, and their vitals need to be taken, the male nurse likely has more b… | /r/MensRights | 30/05/25 08:35 PM |
| -1 | An unexpectedly epic customer rant about "girl bosses" with a new (female) customer at my jobDo you have any evidence? I would love to see some sources:) | /r/MensRights | 18/05/25 02:10 PM |
| 0 | Male violence is punished. Female narcissism rewrites your pain as hers.My friend, I think you missed the part where I said feminism is the very reason I DO NOT blame men. They are just as much victims as women. Maybe so I can understand your argument better, can you elaborate on how you feel feminism (and not as a response to the patriarchy but feminism itself as an ideology) has contributed to the depression and isolation of men? Thanks! | /r/MensRights | 18/05/25 01:46 PM |
| 0 | Male violence is punished. Female narcissism rewrites your pain as hers.For one, I disagree that we can blame feminism for this. You’re not gonna like this, but I think we can blame the patriarchy. These women are responding to the oppression they have experienced as a result of the patriarchy and are just missing the mark. I think this is the case with a lot of things people demonize feminism for. Secondly, believing in the patriarchy and acknowledging how embedded it is in our society is what would absolve men of blame, because their behavior is a result of their … | /r/MensRights | 18/05/25 01:25 PM |
| 1 | Male violence is punished. Female narcissism rewrites your pain as hers.As a woman (and a feminist) I definitely acknowledge this. My father did the same thing and still does for my younger sibling and it has taken an irrevocable toll on his mental health and overall happiness. What’s interesting though is that he doesn’t acknowledge it, he just pretends the way my mother operates is perfectly normal and claims he is just doing his duty as a good husband. | /r/MensRights | 18/05/25 01:12 PM |
| 2 | "if she said/did that, she's not a true feminist"Can you elaborate? | /r/MensRights | 16/05/25 01:00 PM |
| -2 | "if she said/did that, she's not a true feminist"As a feminist (I swear I start every post on this sub with this lol), I totally see where you're coming from. I 100% agree that we really lack a lot of self-policing and it does seem like a cop out to say "oh that's just not a real feminist," which I am guilty of having said probably over 50 times. However, I still think it's true no matter how redundant. If someone calls themself a feminist, but hates men, then they're not a feminist because they don't match the broadly recognized definition, w… | /r/MensRights | 16/05/25 01:33 AM |
| 1 | Male violence is punished. Female narcissism rewrites your pain as hers.Thank you for your response! I totally see what you're saying and have actually witnessed men experiencing this with startling frequency, and it's really sad to see. I also agree with what you said about how this is just more broadly permissible behavior in women, and I think this is extremely harmful to both genders. I guess what I am struggling with is the framing around how society labels some toxic behaviors into emotional vulnerability and self-care (specifically for women). Could you maybe… | /r/MensRights | 16/05/25 12:56 AM |
| 3 | Male violence is punished. Female narcissism rewrites your pain as hers.As a feminist I 100% see where you’re coming from and have experience with female narcissists in my life, but as a woman it is difficult to see where the gender comes into it sometimes. I agree that the social narrative is that women are in general just victims when it comes to interpersonal relationships and I see how much it carries over into romantic relationships. However, to me it is difficult to understand how, if you take a deeper look, this is not a gendered issue but a mental health one… | /r/MensRights | 08/05/25 03:57 PM |
| 1 | Raising boys with feminism will make them victims of terrible women.As a feminist, I’m genuinely curious about other opinions, and I have a few questions about this post: What about feminism (as in what you perceive it to be and experience it as) feels like it devalues the abuse men often face in relationships? Is it that it is just not mentioned as often or something else? What about the feminist narrative makes it feel like you can’t stand up to any abuse you face from women? I think our movement needs to do a better job at including everyone and not making pe… | /r/MensRights | 08/05/25 03:42 PM |
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