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Sure... And when he gets violent its also her fault right? Never said that and have never been violent. If a person is going to be violent insecurities aren't gonna matter. No. Insecurity does not disappear. What it does is lead to abusive behaviours. Insecure attachment is about you, not the other person. I disagree, i have been insecure about some stuff and was shown i was wrong. Never thought about them since, i am fine with it. Someone showed me why and what i could do for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:34 PM
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I say inexperience because my count is low and would be easier in my mind. If shes been with idk 7+ Its a game of wondering how those went, were they chads, is she treating me differently then them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:02 PM
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I mean i got these opinions from real life before i searched around. The issue is people just want men to sit on side lines and wait. I just wanna find a normal average chick that clicks with me but hasn’t fucked or chased tons of dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 04:26 PM
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I’m at work phone posting, just google virginity rates men data not hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:22 PM
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Lmao yeah those women are full if it. They don’t really love him, it will end poorly because they don’t find them physical attractive. If they are saying that they found them physically attractIve after, maybe. How is a guy supposed to carry himself better when he has no experience. Most people won’t be confident when they have nothing to be confident about. Women still won’t find him attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:21 PM
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It does happen, he his insecure because of her and when he finds out he had nothing to worry about it will go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:18 PM
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He wouldn’t be insecure once he got to know her and the reason went away because she doesn’t fit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 02:57 PM
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Ive seen it higher these days if higher age of virginity and not having sex. It’s men thats going up not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 02:56 PM
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Why does average guy have to do all that? Chad for it for free, why would she be with him if he’s unattractive also?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 09:23 AM
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Nah average men struggle, i see it everywhere. Look at virginity and sexless data in men rising.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:21 AM
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Men want to date low no experience because they also have low no experience. Women have more romantic experience and will not he doesn’t and leave real quick. Putting him back where he started. I grew up around all women. I used to be around women as friends. Then I realized how toxic they were. All women use that strategy. I want full relationship compatibility, men and women still look the external attractiveness first. Men and women both don’t try hard to keep relationship going. I don’t have…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:20 AM
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Lmao so women are perfect and he has to be insecure. Women should be allowed to fuck around and settle with whoever later. Men you should be happy she picked you, even though those same women ignored you for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:11 AM
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Nah they are just being settled with and are blind.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:09 AM
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Benefit? Casual hookup. That’s all the rage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:08 AM
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I am happy with myself and my accomplishments. I am just tired of all the shit being spewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:07 AM
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God i wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:06 AM
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Look through the years of sexual partners. Women are going up men are going down or stay same.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:06 AM
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Data through the years of women sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:05 AM
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That still the difference though, she went and fucked chad. He didn't go out and fuck around. She will not love the average guy or treat the average guy like she did chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:04 AM
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They get into relationships with their equals after she fucked chad. Average men didn’t fuck around. Most men do not shoot outside of their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:02 AM
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I have seen different and i don’t have a bubble. Women around my area are especially high.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:00 AM
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And how do you think men feel getting constantly rejected. It destroys them. I have been hunting for a relationship for forever. Obviously average guys don’t set themselves apart from chads because she would have given him a chance before chad. Women hurt these average guys and wanna come crawling back, of course some of them are gonna want to bite back.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:49 AM
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All the different types of experience he most likely won’t have any. I live in America and am around women. Lmao so it sounds like women have a bad strategy. Stop casual fucking people and thinking you will get a relationship out of it. I still stand by my point, guys should just make it a hookup to get experiences like she did. Lmao i don’t go after these model tier women. They are ugly to me. I actually know what i like and don’t chase bimbos. Everyday average women go straight for attractiven…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 03:14 AM
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These men can’t figure out how to date a women with more experience because he has none and that women wont want to date a guy no/low experience. So he is better off hooking up. Lmao American women are not raised to bend over backwards for men. These men don’t want relationships because they wanna experience the casual fun she had. Also women check out attractiveness first and if you meet that rarely care about your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 02:59 AM
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Her previous hookups matter, is she treating him the same? Or does he have to jump through hoops the last guy didn’t? She has nothing to do with his frustrations but he should just hookup to make up for lost time. Most school shooters go after people that treated them like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 02:54 AM
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I have seen it time and time again, women admit it all the time. Average guy goes up instantly denied, 8/10+ instantly positive posture and no rejection. That rape chance goes out the window. I will conflate dating and hookups because no guy wants to be the relationship guy. Women try to get relationships out if a hookup and fail. People don’t look at personality first irl or old.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 02:23 AM
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Again the real question is, did these same men stick together and had similar camaraderie when you guys got out of the corps? I mean when we all left and moved on for us it fell apart. I still talk to some but nothing close. I have not experience the same camaraderie since then and it hurts honestly. It seems a good part of this camarederie is kinda institutionalized, and without the military on top of the group it quickly falls apart. Yeah, I mean we were together for 12+ hours everyday. It is …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:47 AM
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Nice post, but women rate based on physical first. Most guy's don't get to show off their personality because they were rejected for physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:44 AM
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Why not? She isn't going to treat him the same way she treated chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:40 AM
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It's already getting better and worse in myriad complex ways and depending on your personal values and perspective. I see a future of women losing more and more rights. These bitter men are voting. Statistically it does. In fact the rate of such marriages has been going slowly upward since the 70s—not coincidentally the first time in human history that the majority of women were in the labor force. The overall marriage rate has been declining across the same period, yet another predictable marke…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:27 AM
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So he should be happy she ended up settling with him after her hookup/ons/fwb ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:21 AM
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Society is constantly changing due to all manner of predictable and unpredictable forces, so this perspective doesnt make sense. We are not at the end of history. It's not going to get better. become more likely to date and marry men who make less than them lmao this never happens, majority women do not date down. Women have been saying this for forever. What men need to do is start figuring out how to change their behavior and sociocultural ideology to further pressure change. haha I can barely…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:17 AM
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You're telling people to let men treat them like shit and abuse them if they date these men because the men have a history of rejection. No....If you treated these men like normal people, they wouldn't be shitty. Also would help if people stayed in their leagues. Chad has an ego because he fucks everyone, ugly women have an ego because she fucked chad once. I'd consider that mental illness and or behaviors associated with anit personality disorder. k You want people to be sitting ducks for unhin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 12:53 AM
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It depends, when I was in the military and had camaraderie. You helped the bros out. In normal society it's every man for himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 12:46 AM
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I don't trust the psychological stablity of anyone who thinks it's sane to advocate for abusing partners because someone experinced past rejections. Not advocating it. As I said. Avoid men like this and get a gun. These guys are one toe stub away from bashing an innocent bystanders brains in. As I said, treating these men like shit is what made them shit. Only a small percentage of men are shit no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 12:42 AM
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Because you don't see the issue. If a guy is ignored and treated badly, he will become bitter. Even if a woman gives him a shot/settles, women hate a guy with no experience. He's fucked no matter what all because he had bad luck with women. Look at all the single mothers these days that are trying to find a beta to take care of them and the kid.....Women don't want these men anyway, and these men are bitter from all the years. Let it burn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 12:40 AM
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Not at all, she would be someone that doesn't have sex until long in the relationship or actually got to know him and said she wanted to have a LTR with him. It's crazy that you can actually get to know someone before fucking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 12:32 AM
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I described a very clear set of disturbing behaviors. Instead of denying those behaviors or even denoucing them, you immediately jump to protecting it and criticizing any one who distances themselves from men who behave that way. I agreed with everything in your post until this "It's best not to gice uglies a chance. They're not better people. Typically they're worse because of their resentment and mental illness developed over their percieved slights regarding their physical appearance." These …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 12:31 AM
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And that is why it is not a good idea for women to get with inexperienced men. Chance it could be bad because he was ignored. Good portion of men don't have experience, how are they supposed to get it? You already admitted that you think she deserves poor treatment because she ‘might’ not have chosen him before she ever even met him. Never said she deserves it. Even though when she met him she did in fact choose him. Women can’t win with incels so why bother with them. Dual mating strategy or af…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 12:26 AM
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Being attractive helps too Almost as if we should frame and pin this. It's why you have the halo effect. Doesn't matter though chad won't settle with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 12:09 AM
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Bitter and resentful correct. Insecure nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 12:07 AM
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You do know that statistically men have more sexual partners than women right? Not in current times. If you are a incel who finally got a girl to like you enough to have sex you certainly should not try to make that woman your partner. Based revenge post It doesn't matter if she is a virgin, your insecurities will tank the relationship sooner then later. He wouldn't be insecure if she was virgin lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 12:06 AM
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??? Yeah everything I have said hasn't been me speaking for myself....You obviously are delusional and hate men just to hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 12:05 AM
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It's almost as if we treated people better, people would be less bitter and shitty. Men treat women bad and women treat men bad. If you believe chad is going to do anything beside fuck you, you are delusional. If you believe all ugly men will treat you like shit you are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:55 PM
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She could be herself low or no N count. Very rare And she is not responsible for his lack of experience before she met him regardless. In a way she is, she would of ignored him like all the others did. Edit: so yeah, I would blame him for being an asshole to the woman who saved him from inceldom just because he could not get laid before she even met him. lmao, the rich man saving the poor man, but he is the one that made him poor. She won't love him though, women hate a guy with no experience, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:51 PM
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It puts these men above Chad. Then why did you chase and fuck chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:36 PM
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I mean he was ignored his entire life while she went around and had hookups. Surely it's true love? She had her fun and wants him now.....
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:35 PM
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I mean just say you hate men honestly. No wonder society is shit. Just keep putting people down and down.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:34 PM
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It's very rare to find a women that doesn't have a higher body count when compared to guys. So many negatives that come with a higher body count. It's always a game of how can she love me after she's been with 15+ other guys. Any women with low count in a relationship with a high count guy would be insecure as fuck also.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:32 PM
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Not a chance, she will use her body as the prize and try to get a LTR with chad. Majority will say oh I got chad to fuck me so that's the standard for an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:29 PM
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No, when shit gets bad enough men will take back the rights they gave women. Men are not being short sighted, they realize that they are being ignored, women are chasing chad having hookups and want beta to wait for them to settle with the him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:23 PM
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Could you blame him though? She is settling with him anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:19 PM
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I would assume she is fat/obese but she has also had some hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:18 PM
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They are also bitter women didn't pick them years ago like they did chad and now want either wanna have fun they did or revenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:16 PM
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It's best not to gice uglies a chance. They're not better people. Typically they're worse because of their resentment and mental illness developed over their percieved slights regarding their physical appearance. yeah let's just keep treating them like shit, surely nothing bad will happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:13 PM
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AFBB isnt doing that. It's just strengthening the walls of your echo chamber. Nothing is going to change though, why would women give up the power they have. As long as the world is ready for more bitter, unstable, angry men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:11 PM
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Sounds like you agree. You can call it insecurity all you want but the fields are not equal. Some people want to have the cake and eat it, some can't even get a crumb of the cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:09 PM
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Should that individual be happy or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:06 PM
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It's a both male and female issue, but you only wanna focus on the woman side.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 09:52 PM
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Do you think men that have zero to little experience (beta,incel) should be happy that a women picked them to settle with? Even though she had casual sex/hookups/ons/FWB, knowing she treats him different? knowing that her sexual partner count is way higher than his? This depends though, Does she treat this guy the same as the chads she hooked up with? Is she on the same attractiveness level as him, yeah he will most likely want someone to be in the same ball park as him. Did she only date a coup…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 09:52 PM
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Beta or incel, I am just wondering if this individual should just be happy or accept that a women has picked him and settled with him. When she has had sexual experience he has not had such as casual sex/hookup/ons/fwb/ her n count is way higher than his.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 09:39 PM
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Eh typical. This is why men should never care about women issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 09:37 PM
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I'm sure you believe all men not in the 20% are incels, answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 09:20 PM
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I don't have to wonder and it's pretty sad. That these men have been pushed to the side, treated like trash and are expected by society to be a loving husband to any women that decides to settle with him. What I'm trying to understand is if both men (Chad and not Chad) are going to treat her badly (casual sex or serious relationships) why this misconception about unattractive men? Anyone could treat her bad, chad will pump and dump because he knows he can do better. Beta depending will treat her…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 09:18 PM
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So the beta guy, that never had sex or hookups/ons/fwb should just accept that she did and be happy she settled with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 09:11 PM
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So men should just tap out or buy escorts. Why bother if only men could have an inflated ego. Surely women chasing chad won't have an ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 09:03 PM
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It depends does she treat him like a chad? Did she have hookups with chad and then settle for him? Are they both on the same level of attractiveness but she has an inflated ego because she fucked around and he didn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:59 PM
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This also goes for women...right? Those women that have casual sex with men out of their league, it boosts their ego...right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:51 PM
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Yeah it is life, I used to believe in real love and marriage but fuck that not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:43 PM
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A similar thing with ugly/beta males having casual sex, paid sex or short term relationships with desperate, insecure hot/alpha,sigma females Yeah ugly/beta guys are 90% of the time not having casual sex, especially with hot/alpha woman. Paid sex, I could likely see.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:36 PM
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Yeah I agree, but the issue is these ugly/beta girls are having casual sex with chads....This inflates their ego and they don't want to settle with ugly/beta guys until way later. I have weird taste in women, probably because I know I'm average or below. I find the normal average or below women hot. I would be a happy motherfucker if I found one and clicked with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:30 PM
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Getting pumped and dumped by ugly can hurt AND lower self esteem I.e. "I couldn't even keep an ugly man or a loser" and make you feel disgusted with yourself and tainted That's why ugly/beta guys shouldn't settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:24 PM
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Fuck that. Imagine knowing your entire relationship is a lie and she doesn't love you. At any moment she could cheat or leave you. She will always be looking for a better option.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:12 PM
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It's called being bitter and jaded. Why would this guy wants to be a virgin or have 1 sexual partner for idk 20's 30's. When she has pushing 7-12. That relationship will never work. These days the unattractive guy isn't incentivized. He is being settled for, she probably doesn't find him attractive. He never got to have the fun she did.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:10 PM
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This sounds like something...She wants good casual sex but for a relationship she wants to feel secure...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:02 PM
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unattractive men tend to have bad attitudes in the early stages of dating. I wonder why... SOME expect to be treated like Chad instead of treating her BETTER from day one. So he has to treat her better, but she doesn't have to treat him better...Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:00 PM
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The pill belief that women are engaging in casual sex with randoms is the reason why they will never make good partners. So are you saying majority of women don't have casual sex? Should the guy that never had sex/hookups/ons/fwb just accept the girl that picked him, when she had casual sex? Weird though, that the same guys who believe average women are being gangbanged insist Tinder, an app that the few women who do have casual sex go on, is the only place to meet women. ? Nobody says tinder is…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 07:56 PM
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This is talking about relationships and not just hookups. Since this unattractive guy probably never got hookups, but she did. Shouldn't he also pump and dump just like chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 07:51 PM
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But for what ive read, unattractive (men and women) are more likely to have bad and bitter personalities since ppl treat them that way so they give away what they get away. Atractive ppl seem to be more friendly and charming since they have recieved a better fedback because of halo effect. I After years of being treated like shit, who would of guess that person would develop a shit personality. Perhaps what they wanted to say is that the "chad" isnt faithfull since he has a lot of options where …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 07:51 PM
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I didnt miss this: I simply never said it was "ok" in the first place. I'm not making a value judgment, I'm just describing a phenomenon from a different perspective. Sounds like you think it's fine for society to push beta's into a corner and wait. They will be happy she picked him later in life. This is descending into rant territory... Not a rant. Look around at society. I think that depends on what kind of struggle you recognize. But even if it's true, then what? Sex, compassion, relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 07:47 PM
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The guys here believe that Chad treats women badly and that if they had a girlfriend she would be better treated by them, than the thug they imagine. In the real world, where people who go out into it live we see perfectly normal people coupling up. Not alpha and beta nonsense. It's women getting pumped and dumped that are get mad chad treated them badly. People couple up eventually but alpha and beta are still defined. Meanwhile, pill guys are treating dating like a video game that they can mas…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 07:32 PM
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It's just normal blue pilled shit advice, just how less attractive women will be more loyal, not a whore, or "house wife" for a man. Edit: I will add that since a good portion of guys are struggling they will simp really hard for her since someone finally gave him attention/relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 07:24 PM
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You missed this :) "You are telling me right now that it's ok for that beta loser virgin to just sit in the corner and wait. A woman will eventually pick him and he should be happy with it. Yeah...Love..." ​ Reading this article, I'm not sure why this is framed as a problem or "crisis." Men and women who dont find someone they want to marryshouldn't. That'ss totally fine. Women have much less incentive to do so, now that financial and political parity is within their reach.. Things will get wors…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 04:40 PM
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Unfortunately if I walk around thinking I'm not ugly and don't say that I'm ugly, it doesn't really matter. If she thinks your ugly she will let you know real quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 11:56 PM
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It's my face...I have been told it's very normal average, it's probably worse. I am the stereotypical STEM nerd. Sounds like you're young still, so you have time. Keep striving and be careful to avoid self-defeating echo chambers. 27 and very jaded, but I keep trying for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 10:58 PM
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I have been getting advice, so far I fixed pictures on old to show all that stuff off more. We will see how that works. You can judge yourself in those areas, but again I have had honest feedback. Men have given more advice all around and just said you need more money so.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 10:29 PM
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Good job - pays well and/or is respected Smart/Thinker - has actual thoughts in his head (good ones) and the ability to reason well Physically fit - not even big muscles or visible abs, just not fat and able to do real exercise comfortably Good skin - healthy, clean, no obvious breakouts or other problem areas Well dressed - not necessarily a suit or a "trendy* look, just putting notably more effort and thought in than "is this clean?" Admired/Liked/Respected by others - High(er) status, or at l…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 09:58 PM
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That doesn't tell us anything about this question directly. It only tells us (possibly) indirectly. And indirect evidence is open to interpretation. We're arguing because I offered an alternative interpretation. And I think it's wrong because women will come out and say you will be a good husband later in life. Women complain about how they go after certain type of man and how awful he is yet they keep doing it. They know better but don't care. People don't change they just know the LTR guy will…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 12:13 AM
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This is literally what we're debating right now: whether this is actually true or just a cynical male projection. I obviously believe it's actually true, when you look at male virginity rates compared to women. Looking at how so many men are just invisible, not the guys in the basement that haven't showed in a month. I'm talking about the normal everyday guy that goes out, nice job, nice clothes, gym, etc. He is still invisible and has to wait later in life for a women to settle with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 11:15 PM
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Because the past matters and will play games with the relationship guy. A lot of guys don’t get to have a hoe phase so why would you want to be treated differently oh how she treated other guys. You just asked why guys don’t want to be the beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 02:13 PM
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Is that before or after she had hookups/casual sex/fwb?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 01:21 AM
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We both know the reason most men date is to get sex, that’s why men get upset when they have to wait for sex or they say they have enough friends and walk away from a relationship when they don’t get sex. It's a mix, some just want sex, some want actual dates to get into LTR, some want sex because they feel left out. Men get upset when they have to wait for sex because the last guys didn't. These guys never got hookups/casual sex so don't want to wait. Women N count is getting way higher then ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:25 PM
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Almost as if you ignore it. I don't believe women are being pestered for sex, they are being pestered for a date. Women control sex. I have personally never been pestered to pay to a woman's onlyfans though. Maybe because I never would?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:03 PM
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Most women aren’t going after hookups and one night stands though, Oh they are look at sexual partner studies through the years. that’s the crux of the problem with online dating isn’t it? Women will go out for hookup/ons/fwb or online they have plenty of options. If women liked hookups as much as men there wouldn’t be three women for every man on tinder. No women want to hookup up with certain men and try to obtain and LTR with them. Men get no hookups and just want anything at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:01 PM
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Don’t other guys acknowledge you? No Women are conditioned to be nice/pleasant so wouldn’t you benefit from that? Lmao good one
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:19 PM
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It would be interesting to have a study where men get bombarded with requests. I wonder how long it would take for men to get overwhelmed and angry with the situation especially if they started going on dates with all the admirers they like only to find out on each date that they would not get the relationship they are looking for and have to go back to the drawing board yet again to go on yet another first date with someone new in hopes the next date works out. It would probably equal out becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:45 PM
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When women care about love and commitment they don't hand out sex like it's nothing, but obviously dick is worth something because women throw sex around when their is no sex or commitment. Majority will not have sex for a while to make sure it's an actual relationship, starting the foundation for love and commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 08:42 PM
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which isn’t much in the eyes of most women. But it is if women keep going after hookups/ons/fwb. If you cared about love and commitment you wouldn't hand out sex like it's nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 07:57 PM
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Would most guys like to go on tinder and 100-1000+ likes of women spamming them for attention. Yeah because they get zero attention now. If the roles were reversed it still wouldn't matter women are complaining about finding LTRS now and if it swapped LTRS would be the same. This is the market these days and women have taken control of dating value. It's an unlucky and hurtful world all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 07:52 PM
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And many men give up because they can’t get a date, constantly ghosted, she has so many options that he is disposable. Grass is always greener.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 07:28 PM
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Men have to do these things though and swipe on majority of profiles. OLD is awful for majority of men on it. Majority want a LTR but will take a hookup since they never got the opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:32 PM

I would 100% stop the drinking, easier said then done. Sounds like you got it figured out already you just wanted others opinions. Take it one notch down on being needy or reaching out and see where it takes you. If nothing changes then it most likely wasn't that then move on to the next thing you think it might be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 03:51 PM

Ah makes sense, i mean you have improved yourself. If you are able to get laid you have made it further then a good chunk of men. Sounds like you just need to keep pushing yourself to women. You have the opener but you can't seem to keep them around.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:48 PM

I’ve always had trouble with women. I’ve had the casual sex and still do You are talking about being thirsty to guys that have no water, yet are chugging water.... when I’m drunk I can be extremely toxic and mentally unstable This is gonna blow your mind, but maybe don't drink?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:17 PM
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Probably not, men lie and women lie all the time to get the one up. I have become so jaded I honestly don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:22 AM
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Well, if it happens take it to the police and the courts. Let's see what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:10 AM
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Ah yes the revenge fantasy. By god how dare a guy play the game that he was lossing at for years. It's leveraging your options. If i found an actual women that had same n count as me, didn't do hookups/ons/FWB. I would be a normal person and want an LTR. This is rare and majority of the time impossible to tell, so why bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:09 AM
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Holy what absolute truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:03 AM
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This is what happens these days. Men get nothing 20's women have fun. Some men get some at 30s women want to settle at 30s. Why would you miss out on the fun they denied you. Why should you be lonely and miserable, while others had fun? Why should you sit in a corner waiting for leftovers? Dating market is fucked and if men stop playing into it, it either collapses or marriage finally dies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:01 AM
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People lie all the time and nothing happens. That shit would never hold up in a court. You still took the action. It's 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:56 AM
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Yup. She will have her fun and then go back to the beta that couldn't get shit. She will be pushing 7-15+ and him 0-2 if he's lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:53 AM
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Look at virginity rates in men and women. Women are out fucking chads, men can't get shit. Majority of men are trying to get crumbs, but majority of women are getting a quick fuck in with top dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:52 AM
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Thanks, majority of men do care. Lemme guess a quality man for you is low n count guy that you can settle with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:48 AM
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Yes Yes, if shes higher = you beta. Low Yes, this is mainly for women, men have to lie because if it's low she will say ew no one wants to fuck him. wut no ? Depends. Women will say i'm a born again virgin...no....If a guy admits to being a virgin it's over for him. wut no consent? If i was a virgin and the chick lied, it's over. high count more issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:47 AM
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You know what i'm talking about, it's top men that walk in and majority of the women instantly want to fuck. Majority of men have no chance and will take weeks if not months to get crumbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:38 AM
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You still find the same people attractive. Men and women can't be compared the same in this scenario. You might have been a fuccboi but if given the opportunity those could have turned into LTRS. Women will fuck the top and then go back and try to settle with someone they don't find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:35 AM
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huh? You are spouting brain dead shit, men do not want whores. A couple of men will date whores because they are either a whore themselves or are desperate most find you repulsive. Simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:33 AM
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How can I approach dating with more clarity? Start realizing that she will 90% of the time have higher n count than you, did wild things and is ready to settle down now with "husband material guy". OR realize society/dating is fucked and never get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:29 AM
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Most women aren't hooking up with randoms at bars lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:14 AM
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and from what is considered a connection it seems like it's literally one hour for a chick to wanna fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:56 PM
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I assume you want this commitment after the hookups/ons?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:51 PM
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Nah attractions are attractions. If you were unattractive in yours 20's majority of the time you will be unattractive in your 30's. She is the same person, she just had her fun and now wants stability with a beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:00 PM
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Lmao yeah I’m sure the beta guy will love this. Let her have fun while he sits around and waits to become the stability guy. If she didn’t find you attractive before she won’t find you attractive later.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:45 PM
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Study of women fucking random dudes they just meet at a bar. Op said sex takes a connection and i said it must not take must for women to form a connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:35 PM
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That's not a connection for me, for majority of women it is apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:42 PM
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No. The LTR guy will have more sex and fun in a relationship, he’s not losing or missing out on fun. It’s just delayed to make sure it’s secure. Lmao. Being settled with is surely gonna get you more sex and fun. I value having a real relationship with someone but i want it to be with a women that hasn't fucked 10+ men randomly. These LTR guys are always gonna have a lower n count compared to women and will be treated like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:42 PM
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Men frame themselves as beta because that's how they were treated growing up. You can be confident in yourself and still get no where with women. I prefer not to do hookups and ons/fwb. Find me a women that doesn't do those things. 5-10% maybe MAYBE, they are already most likely taken because they wanted an LTR early.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:40 PM
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So they had a taste for alpha (sex) and now want a beta (stability). sooo....afbb....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:35 PM
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What is it that you do want? Do you want to NOT be considered as a potential partner once women have grown out of being shallow and silly (as all people of both sexes hopefully do as they get older and more experienced)? Why would i want to be settled with? Why would i want to be told hey you go ahead and sit in the corner for 10 years while i go have fun and then we can get married. Why would a guy want to have 0-2 sexual partners while she had 7-15. Would it be better never to be attractive to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:30 PM
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It's almost as if women are the controllers of sex and she doesn't need to give it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:25 PM
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It's the same thing as "you will find someone someday" or other sayings I can't remember right now. That generic quote that's supposed to blue pill you but all it does is sting and make you bitter. My entire life I would hang around attractive guys and see the shit they could get away with. I say or do something way tamer than them and I’m a loser creep. Virginity is rising more and more for men. The age of women will 70-80% of the time have a higher n count than you is here. You should never se…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:24 PM
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I have never had ons or casual sex, majority of women do or have. The issue now it i am looked as the LTR guy but don't want to play games with someone that had ONS/FWB/Casual sex with other men. If she made every guy wait idk 1-2+ months i would have zero issues. She stands her ground and knows when she is ready instead of being ready night of for chads and waiting months for beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:08 PM
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So then every guy should want to be the disposable guy. The LTR guy is told to wait on the side lines while she has her fun with the disposable guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:57 PM
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Shits funny, if you make him wait he will think you don't actually like him. If he finds out you made him wait but all the other guys didn't wew lad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:50 PM
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connection 1h conversation at a bar is a connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:47 PM
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and you never want to be the safe guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:46 PM
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Holy fuck get help, no wonder men treat women like shit. Also men don’t want to marry whores they just use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:13 PM
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Oh yeah war is hell. Luckily I don’t project though i just flat out don’t care/avoid. I mean if these men want to take the gamble and get settled with in a LTR more power. LTR are shit these days anyways even if i want one i know it wont happen so why bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:25 PM
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And whores shouldn’t get access to marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:21 PM
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I said play games (like push pull) Ah, still it works and if the guy has to have low empathy to hookup. Well yes, that’s the point. If they react negatively then move on, it’s a good way to asses who should be in your life and who shouldn’t be. You sound very cynical and seem to think that people are inherently bad. Is that the case? Yes it was always negative and i became cynical. When everyone around you is negative and they show their true colors you finally realize people are inherently bad.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:06 AM
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Some women want to keep the kid and well these days depending on the state in America you are kinda shit out of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 01:27 AM
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Nah, they dated up way out of their league and got pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 01:21 AM
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Yes, I like myself more now when I realized there is no reason to treat other people with kindness except for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 01:20 AM
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I can agree that most men who hook up regularly have low empathy. They usually lie to women a lot and play games (like push pull). I wouldn't consider push pull lying. You genuinely think a good LTR consist of push pull and being treated like trash? Will you respect someone who allows you to treat them this way? Is that someone you’d want to have children with? I’d like to know. Push pull will get them to the LTR and then they will most likely be very light about it. Sometimes they won't because…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 01:17 AM
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I mean they still get more hookups/relationships/LTR's probably worth the gamble. All the men i have seen didn't become domestic abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 12:46 AM
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Niceness isn't currency to get a partner. It's not a primary factor in attraction. But...being nice will make one feel good about themselves and who they are as a person. It helps in raising empathetic kids, and having happier long term relationships. Just because a character trait doesn't get one hookups doesn't mean it isn't worth having. It has more negatives than positives, so hence as i said neither are good. I'll also say niceness isn't doing things for people. Saying "no" and having bound…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 12:45 AM
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Being genuine at heart doesn't get you hookups or LTR's. You might get settled with later down the road but it's not gonna be a good time. EDIT: I will add an example, I was a pretty normal kind person. Not some bullshit nice guy/simp/put women on a pedestal. I just did normal stuff for family, coworkers, people around me. I got treated like shit, taken advantage of even with a backbone. Women I had an interest in would turn and say the good ol phrase of "you seem nice and all but". Just embrace…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 12:18 AM
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How is preselecting for women who have been abused prior to meeting you working out? I didn't say i did it? I just know it works from everyone around me. From what i have seen IRL and women online, being nice/kind is shit and will never get you anywhere. I have heard some stories from abused women and how they think about men. Lemme tell you it's not nice. I'm guessing you are now living in the burbs with a couple of kids with a wife who you enjoy being around? Fuck i wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 12:16 AM
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Again dude, confirmation bias. “Look around at how women operate.” Okay? I do not see whatever you’re describing. I see women busting their ass or equality and equity. I also gave you a statistic that largely defeated your argument. Something can feel true to you if it fits your preexisting world view, without actually being true. Must not live in America then. Next, he said you sound broke. How does that translate to me being with him for his money? Another failed leap in logic. Make it sound l…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 11:41 PM
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We know it's not going to change and hopefully more men are waking up. Dual mating strategy, af/bb. Male virginity is rising and more men are just sitting on the side waiting for what's left. The relationship man is being settled with and will get divorced/dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 11:28 PM
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Your logic throughout this entire conversation (better yet, lack thereof) has been alarming. Just generalizations, false assumptions with zero data, and now resorting to personal attacks. Again open your eyes and look how women operate not hard. Also just showed my boyfriend your comment. He said “sounds broke with no hoes.” Interesting so you are dating him for the money and you are a hoe. Like i said divorce rape is gonna sting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 11:22 PM
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Neither are good, women will put you on the side for either. Just push and pull and treat them like trash or property. You will have a better outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 11:13 PM
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I don’t have children and I’m in a 5 year relationship lmao. God bless that man the divorce rape is gonna hurt. Also, please look into confirmation bias. Not confirmation bias if true :). You think women doctors/lawyers are dating stem guys that make 60-90k?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 11:09 PM
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Wait at least a month or two until you have sex with a guy you want to have a relationship with. Just remember she will do this after she had a bunch of ONS. Jump through the hoops.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 10:38 PM
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Look around you see it everywhere, just because you are a single mother and have a harder time finding a guy doesn't mean you have to try and brainwash men to accept single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 10:33 PM
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Then how come women never date down in terms of money always up? No matter how high, they always want more. I have these things and want to share them with a woman that doesn’t have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 10:21 PM
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Or they don't want to waste financial means / emotional intelligence on a kid that isn't his and a women that is just trying to find a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 08:53 PM
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Everyone knows this women have an easier time fucking around with higher dudes and more options. She will do this until she can’t secure him and then go back to the dudes she ignored. She has 10+ 20+ sexual partners, he has 0-2. Af/bb we all know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:44 PM
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I guess i should rephrase, i have social skills just not a social circle. Moving to a backwoods town with a city 40mins away. Still can’t seem to find activities. I just need to move as you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 02:40 PM
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Career/money, gym, better clothes, house, try socializing more but it’s impossible and doesn’t change anything also. You can do all sorts of things and still be invisible. My social aspects hurt me the most but it’s all luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 12:16 PM
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I have done the work it doesn’t change anything lmao. I didn’t get women when I wasn’t enlightened, you act like that changes things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 10:07 AM
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You act like that’s a good thing. Wow the whores that used to ignore him now see him as a walking wallet. He made it in life and I’m sure he can’t wait to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:37 AM
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Almost as if i know what my issues are and don’t need therapy, most other guys are like this. I don’t have a chip on my shoulder and therapy isn’t going to magically make women attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:35 AM
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Therapy majority of the time isn’t need and does nothing. Therapy isn’t going to magically make women attracted to me lmao. Men these days put in more work when it comes to bettering themselves because if they don’t they get ignored. Women will never get ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 02:14 AM
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I see some women doing " fitness, skincare, nails, hair, clothes, etc" but most are fat and lazy. Most of the women that do this are already taken also. Majority of single men are doing these things, degree, getting more money, gym, nice clothes, haircut, skincare routine, buying nice accessories to show wealth. Also, If doing all that stuff you mentioned doesn’t make a difference then you probably need to go to therapy and work on some inner demons. This never makes sense to me, yeah it's a qui…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 10:43 PM
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This is always such shit, some men feel entitled sure. Majority actually try and better themselves. Get more money, socialize, gym, dress better, face wash routine etc. Doesn't make a difference. That fact that most women actually don't work on themselves they just put on a dress and a pound of makeup and call it good.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:45 PM
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It is a women's issue because it affects women. If men stop caring about women they won't care about their issues. You can look of data over the years of men voting on issues like this and it's getting low because men stopped caring.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:26 PM
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Absolutely chad got it for free, i have to wine and dine you or 3 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:55 AM
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I wouldn't call it assuming though because i see it happen all the time. To myself, men complaining online (it's the internet i don't take it all serious). Tons of guys are getting ignored, used for attention/money, settled with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:26 AM
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Women that can’t find someone to make a family. Lmao wonder why. You are spot on with the rest though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 08:34 AM
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"Women don't run the race with you, they wait at the finish line for the winner" You need to have the traits of a winner, and that takes time But the finish line is single mothers, obesity, promiscuous women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:28 AM
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Yeah its all about looks, but women have a clock if they want kids. It is all rigged its af/bb. You cant really take a look at yourself when women will ignore you lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:26 AM
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Nah your right i was being a cunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:08 AM
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Even then she will judge you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:49 AM
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Women can have self-esteem issues without being promiscuous. You can’t filter against a bad gf just by filtering against sluts. Men who think they can get burnt all the same. Gamble you take. Why are you talking about the rarity that is virgin late 20’s men? How would you know all that outside looking in. 19-22 is a normal age, it becomes a issue in later 20's-30's when a guy has no experience. You don’t actually watch their thoughts, feelings and motivations behind their actions. Unless you’re …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:49 AM
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? It's almost as if guys did but were ignored by women...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:47 AM
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Tbf the way I see it you're going to get called a loser regardless for being inexperienced, so might as well tell society to go fuck itself and do whatever you can to beat everyone at their own game. In less than a year you'll get more pussy than 99% of the assholes who thought you were a loser. And morally speaking? Personally, I paid for a service, the girl is a fully grown adult who made her own life decisions to get here, she can back out of this deal at any time, and you should always be re…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:33 AM
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Thanks for the laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:26 AM
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This the easiest way out I don't understand why men with any financial capabilities don't just do it. Morals, illegal, It's like telling a starving man to just eat some rocks that are near him. Self respect, if you are a virgin and have to pay for it you concede to society calling you a loser and proved them right. If you consider it a monthly expense (average 320$ for an hour with a high quality, read: no STD hooker) by the end of the year you will have fucked twelve different girls, nobody wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:19 AM
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Many of the burned guys in this sub clearly dealt with women who had self-esteem issues just based of their accounts of their relationships. It’s often not a fun time. It’s good to identify it beforehand. That's what happens when you settle with a promiscuous women. A virgin woman (there are still many that are in the 19-22 range), are more forgiving about virgin men. This was the case 4 years ago and is the case today. 19-22.....i'm talking about late 20's men. How would you know all that outsi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:51 PM
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Exactly. The point that I’m trying to make is that you’re not getting “experience” and learning how to please a woman by sticking your penis inside a female who is literally just waiting for you to finish so she can leave. But you are because most likely this guy didn't get sex right away and had at least a couple week or month of a relationship. If a late 20's guy is a virgin and had sex. That's experience. You’re completely right, she won’t say “no and stop” because she feels pressured to let …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:32 PM
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They don’t though, im not familar w the terms and stuff you guys use but im sure my bf would be considered “top” by this sub at least based off physical standards. The idea that men just want sex is usually upheld by men who don’t actually get it. It's not? Majority of sexless men just want a relationship. Because when you’re having meaningless sex alll the time what you really want is someone to love you lol. So you agree that women don't want to be loved. I had absolutely no issues getting my …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:29 PM
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He doesn’t really have much of a choice. He should have made himself more attractive when he was younger if it bothers him so much, I guess. just. get. more. attractive. But my point is that he’ll be having sex with someone eventually. Statistics show that most unsuccessful men eventually do. Yeah when she's done with her casual sex and wants to find a guy for LTR, she will go back to the invisible guy. af/bb
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:26 PM
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I think this is true in theory more than practice. But when you “watch what men do” we overwhelmingly prefer women who aren’t awkward messes. Why? Because awkwardness cam seem like disinterest, so men back off due to incorrect signals sent. I don't think men really care because it's a women that might actually be interested in them or gives him attention. It depends on the person and the reasons for inexperience. There are people that exist that are such a pain to be around it’s the reason they …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:25 PM
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Like if a woman does not want to have sex with you anymore but she feels pressured to let you finish Did she say stop, no, i'm done, quit? doesn’t that make you feel weird as a man? Yes Or you’re genuinely okay w that? I am not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:20 PM
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I won't, most guys still will because it is their only chance to finally have a women give them attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:18 PM
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the difference is women arent having casual sex w inexperienced virgins for one No shit that's what this whole thread is about. and for two casual sex is bad because usually those men are just using us for sex and theres no after care and emotional connection Yet women keep having it and then complain when they get treated like shit. Women use sex as a tool to reel that top guy in and it fails because he is swimming in women. Women don't care about a real emotional connection because if they did…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:17 PM
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If she says no you should stop. Most won't say no they will just continue like nothing is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:14 PM
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if you think most women won’t stop in the middle of sex if they no longer wanna sleep w you youre crazy, That's why majority of women cry about casual sex being bad yet still have it knowing it's gonna be bad? and also you should hope that they do stop cause if not thats how you end up w women saying they were sexually assaulted and that they weren’t into it anymore True because the courts would just believe them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:08 PM
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Suicide, more violence, men not caring about women's politcal opinions abortion is an easy example. More men tapping out of society not working or paying taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:54 PM
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You're in a hole because women don't want to interact with you. But eventually they will want to interact with these men and then realize they have no experience. I have seen tons of women not believe how a good portion of men are in the sahara desert begging for a sip of water.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:47 PM
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Welcome to hell for about 1/3 of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:45 PM
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Women want monogamous relationships so eventually they’ll just have to pair up. Why would guys want to be with these women though now. They used to ignore them but not are looking at them as relationship material. Why would a guy want to be settled with and be with a more promiscuous women when he isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:03 PM
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lmao god speed based retard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:14 PM
5

Never ever admit to being an autistic virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 08:51 PM
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The end goal is sex to get experience, once he has obtained that guess what he got. Experience. Doesn't matter at that point because majority of women aren't just going to stop mid-way. She will never until you got to the point of obtaining that experience. Next.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 08:49 PM
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Fuck i missed that part somehow, but yeah i see threads all the time of men late 20's virgin. Majority of women say it's a red flag and they don't want them etc. Then he's stuck in this loop of keep trying (start lying) and fail or just buy hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 08:31 PM
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It won't matter though, because he got to the point of sex. Something he wasn't having so he will learn something and get experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 08:28 PM
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Women care way more about a man's experience when compared to man caring about women's experience. You still need to lie about your past even if you are charistmatic and fun. TRP actually drops nuggets of truth when it said, women care more about how you make them feel more than anything. An experienced dud of a man is less appealing than an inexperienced good time fellow. I agree but attractiveness will of course be the biggest factor
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 08:18 PM
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But you have to be given a chance to get experience, Trial and error doesn't apply if you never get a trial. If a women keeps denying a guy with no experience, how would he ever get experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 07:54 PM
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I mean she will never know, just lie like she will lie about her sexual past.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 07:50 PM
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Don't take a match as anything other than someone swiped right on you, the reason could be anything from narcissism or the need to be validated all the way to the other side, where they might really like you based off your profile. I am aware, i have asked some the reason why they liked my profile etc. I understand it's a match but it never goes further. I am saying that, if you are talking to women, and 90% of the time they do not want to actually go out and ignore you, the chances of it always…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:01 PM
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misreading interest or something. Then why would they match or talk with me or even put up with me trying to make conversations. It's just attention and validation of being liked is what they want. You can't really misread an interest if when i ask them out for dinner or do something fun they immediately stop talking. The interest never existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:21 PM
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Yeah I'm sure my time will come where women will start to look at me and try to settle with me. Surely that's real true love. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:19 PM
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Yeah been through that nothing changed, unlucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:02 PM
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Yeah i agree, also women don’t need a relationship if they want a child. Just get to the sperm bank, no one will question single mothers in current year.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:40 AM
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I was using 100% as a an agreement. Is that link women liking average after they had casual sex and want to settle? Women care about it but as long as you dont have a micro penis you will most likely be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:37 AM
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Yeah they don’t give me the time of day lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:32 AM
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No point in dating your subculture because its worth trying to widen your view. If those women in the group would find you attractive anyway why not try others. If other women don't like your group you would have gotten ignored anyway. Why limit the off chance someone out of your specific subculture would like you. Men need all the quantity they can get. Majority of men can’t fit the top of what women want anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:09 AM
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I still disagree with op, most men can handle the responsibility for relationships and are ready or want to try. Women are the ones that don’t want relationships. Good portion of men are in my same shoes of trying and trying but women only want the attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:05 AM
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Just be a chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 11:35 PM
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Nothing would change because women are all ready picky they still ignore majority of these choices. When they don't get what they want they either settle or just live alone with a fwb.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 11:26 PM
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Yeah, but men have to find many different kinds of women attractive to max their odds they might get one. Majority of women can be selective because it's generally easier for them to pick a guy. Men will and have always competed for women. Way back in history and now but things have changed because women have more independence to be even more picky and will still have men after them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 11:11 PM
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apparently it's a thing that men just swipe right on everybody or almost everybody on dating apps? like im a dude and i don't even do that like how the fuck are you just gonna find any generic person attractive Look at the men that are considered "chads" women have a type. Men have to mass swipe for quantity, and try to get at least a couple of likes back. Do i find her attractive, check. Figure out the rest later and hope i get a like back. I have always seen that men do have a more varied view…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:53 PM
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Yeah i'm already well aware of that. Women have always humored me or tried to use me for attention,food,money etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:35 PM
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Are you agreeing with me or trying to say something?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:42 PM
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Majority of cases women are going to have more sexual partners than most men. Either from casual which a large portion of women have or just relationships because it's easier for women to get both. attractive woman Not even about attractive women, even lower tier women get it easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 08:51 PM
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The issue is these women already had their casual and now want a relationship. The men she is now looking at most didn't have their casual. The imbalance is now these women don't feel like they can find a relationship and men feel like they are settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 08:25 PM
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Most of the time men are not in relationships are not because they don't like most women they meet for relationships. It's usually because they don't feel they can handle the responsibility of a relationships or the time. But it's mostly the responsibility. Because it usually takes ALOT of it and a crap ton of effort on his behalf. I'm not in a relationship because every time i ask a women out she stops talking to me. This is also after i make 90% of the conversations we have, but once i actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 04:11 PM
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I only say it doesn't matter because nothing honestly matters. Majority of men get settled with anyway. Maybe if you have a micro penis but still i have heard of guys with micro dicks and still have a women. Whether or not it's a good relationship who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 04:02 PM
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Sad reality is they just assume it was bigger because if you look at penis percentile, (i have the same dick) only like 7-10 dudes will have a bigger dick then you in a room of 1k. Porn doesn't help absolutely lie about big dicks or average dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:55 PM
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100% majority of women care about it but will settle with it like everything else. Dick size honestly doesn't matter that much unless it's maybe below average, because you could have a fairly large dick but if you can't get women it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:51 PM
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Hasn’t changed though most people are still settling with someone they don't find attractive and leads to a shit marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:59 AM
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Divorce rates for below 50 have been somewhat falling but 50+ it's rising. Is this people getting married later in life? I never see single mothers where the father is in the picture. I don't think things will get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:38 PM
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Doesn't matter the damage is done, the guy doesn't know this and will feel settled with or used. The safest route is to believe she doesn't actually find you attractive so you avoid getting hurt later.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 10:17 PM
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Finally, have some self-awareness. Look at yourself in the mirror. Know how socially adept you are. MAYBE, just MAYBE, you cannot expect to find a woman for whom you are the sexiest thing she has ever slept with. If you hold out for that, you will be alone forever. So maybe you will pair with a girl that takes longer to warm up to you physically than she did other guys, and who never actually finds you--in pure lust terms--the hottest lay she ever had. Is this ideal, maybe not. But that is the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 10:15 PM
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Unfortunately that’s already starting to somewhat happen. It's going to be women 30's+ saying all men are shit, 20's men saying all women are whores. Single mother rate and divorce rates will continue to be high and people more jaded. Maybe this will make U.S. allow prositituion to help combat sexlessness since women say they don't care about being alone or being single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 10:13 PM
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Then women better be ready to get burned because male sexlessness is crazy high. Women are ready to settle down with the "beta" that was invisible but now he's all of a sudden looking good. If this "beta" is smart he won't settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:03 PM
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I mean if a guy that used to be invisible starts getting attention, he's going to either lie (pump and dump) or get into a LTR and cheat. He feels that he missed out and his wife will majority of the time have a way higher sexual partner count then him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:48 PM
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Fuck buddies, that's why the guy(relationship material) lies about commitment gets sex and then leaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:35 PM
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Why the need for resentment towards the people who are ready to settle down? Because he was burned/invisible his entire life? He's most likely going to lie to pump and dump. Most of these guys even at 30 aren't gonna get casual sex because majority of women are ready to find their beta to settle with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:21 PM
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I mean you could blame women's dual mating strategy, hypergamy , crazy standards, mens view on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:49 PM
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Its not his true desire, society pushing sex everywhere is making him left out. Insecurities of a women have higher sexual partners. Then you get into af/bb getting settled with, women judging so he has to lie. It’s only gonna get worse and worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:39 AM
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Lack of sexual experience could be hidden, but my point is if a guy has none and gets a single option to get it. He’s gonna get it. That one could have taken 7-9 years to get some attention, no guy is gonna go through that again.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:08 AM
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This has nothing to do with my post, but we all know women say they don't orgasm during ONS. Yet they keep having them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 08:58 PM
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Most ONS are unsatisfying and women will tell you so. Yet they keep doing it? The clit is a big red pleasure button right there - if you listen to a woman she'll tell you how to work it, and it will get her to orgasm. Ah thanks for the sex ed class. But yet that big red pleasure button above the desired fuck-hole(s) marked PRESS HERE FOR PLEASURING YOUR PARTNER is clearly not enough of a in incentive to use said pleasure button. Because really most men are not interested in pleasuring women, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 08:56 PM
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You do realize that women don't like to have 13 kids - right? Yet people still have tons of sex? single mothers? Women don't like to have endless children which is usually the result of continued sex with your partner. Unless you take birth control which will usually lower the libido and have other side-effects, some dangerous like the risk of a heart attack. Funny that there STILL isn't a male contraception pill... because men don't want to subject themselves to any side effects - cause pregnan…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 08:54 PM
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If you don't think anyone would want to be with you then the problem is yourself. This isn't an issue. I have a problem with women's dual mating strategy. You need to like yourself first, you will always suspect others of not wanting to be with you. ? I like myself and have done majority of the goals i set out for. Doesn't matter how much confidence, money, successful career, if you are invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 08:15 PM
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You literally only care about sex not compatibility. I do not. Sex is important in a relationship though for compatibility. I care if i have to jump through hoops. Women see men as 2 categories. Fuck able and relationship material. A ONS is vastly different from a LTR so of course it’s going to start out differently It's not because majority of women having ONS are trying to get a LTR out of it. When they can't they go back and settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 08:09 PM
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It's happening now in mid late 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 07:02 PM
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What do you expect her to do?... ask them out when most of them aren't willing to do it? or force herself to be attracted to them? Most of them do, and you just admitted that she doesn't find them attractive. So why does she later try to settle with them?? She could say the same thing about those "nice" guys. She doesn't though, she goes on dating apps or goes online and complains about "where are all the good men at" after she can't get into a LTR or a man to support her child.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:44 PM
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Thanks for sharing, i'm always curious what people say their standards are. Makes sense Not wanting kids is gonna hurt for dating i would imagine. Seems normal Seems normal Hell yeah Seems normal Seems normal Would be harder to find (but you already did) Seems normal Seems normal Seems normal Seems normal, but men are starting to get taken over my women in college. Seems normal Seems normal, especially in todays society. Seems normal Obviously you said your standards, but i feel most of these pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:36 PM
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Some divorce yeah, these relationships of settling aren't really having that much sex lets be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:50 PM
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90% of men are beneath my standards Please show me what these standards are, i am interested on 90% of men beneath them. Society is not obligated to provide you with options lol True, at the end of the day it's your own problem to find someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:43 PM
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Majority of women have casual sex + lie about it. + adding in obesity/single mothers. That sure does cut the dating pool by what 90%.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:38 PM
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Who is going to know that unless you tell them? “watch what they do, not what they say” Only if you’re anti abortion and don’t use bc. Fertility rates are dropping though. I wonder why. They do. They also just have a scarcity mindset. If you can attract one woman you can attract another. lmao, i got bad news for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:30 PM
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I could go through the list. Your first, stability. If a person has a unstable life that cannot be fixed by having a partner. Stability means a lot of things. Children. There is a thing called sperm banks. Yeah we need more single mothers, nothing wrong with that. Romantic feelings. Romantic feelings are why most women want sex. Not from what i have seen, divorce rates would like a word. Compatibility gives sexual feelings, it does not decrease them. Not if you don't find them attractive. I have…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:18 PM
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Yeah happens all the time, dead bedrooms. Women settle with men they don't really find attractive, give it a couple of years trying to keep it going and then divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:15 PM
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These relationships don't really have that much sex, she has enough to keep him content, which leads to dead bedrooms/divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:14 PM
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You act as if the only options are to take the sex or jump through hoops. Leaving is also and option. I’m glad we agree though. Sex is the primary focus of the majority of men and women are correctly identifying that. Guys do have the option of just leaving but then it makes it worse if they haven't been in a relationship or had sex. If a guy was a loser and had to jump through hoops to have sex, majority of the time he's gonna do it. It’s risk vs reward. All men come with the same risk. So they…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:36 PM
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Stability, father for her kids maybe, money, feeling loved, romantic feelings, compatibility, someone to rely on. List could go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:28 PM
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Where? Irl and online How? They use sex with men that they believe are out of their league trying to get an ltr Isn't that what most men want? Not after they have been pumped and dumped. Hence they lower their standards after they failed getting a "chad" and go back to the average/invisible guy they used to ignore. .just because she didn't take her clothes off on the first date? But she did with other guys. I personally don't want to fuck chicks on the first date, but if a guy was with a chick a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:04 PM
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This happens after they had all the hook ups though. Why would a guy that's not getting attention be ok with a women that is making him jump through hoops but none of the last guys did? So much of it is about sex so women take mens words and actions(yes even the non-chads) to be true and react accordingly. I see women all the time talking about ONS how good it was etc and trying to get a LTR but failing. They then go back and low their standards but don't want that LTR to be about sex? aka settl…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:14 PM
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The truth hurts, but you are correct. Majority of guys fit into being losers. They will get settled with eventually because women are tired of being pumped and dumped. Realizing that they are ok with being with someone that his eh looking, has money, is nice etc. Most women have the luxury of picking quality and will always want to go up a tier. Also women can't really be losers because they have the power in dating, it's rare but some could fit into the loser bracket. Most guys it's worth just …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:52 PM
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​ Just because they don't want to doesn't mean they can't. If all of one gender suddenly were gone or "tapped out" the remaining gender would figure out how to go on. Nobody should be pushed into any career. I get what you're saying about lowering standards. I don't agree they should. A woman should be held to the same standards as men for doing a job, or don't do it at all. There are things women are better at and things men are better at. We shouldn't stop either gender from doing the job they…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 05:20 PM
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Yes there are some some careers that will always probably be male dominated but women could do them if men decided to suddenly stop. Just like female dominated careers, males could do them if they have to. There isn't some magic skill the only one gender can do Some could but most women couldn't do male dominated jobs and most men couldn't things women are natural at. I worked on a military base as a civilian contractor when I was younger and there are plenty of females in the military. 3 of my …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 01:47 PM
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No, blue pillers believe everything is fine and they don't accept that "thing". Go compare someone that has a blue pill tag and see their posts and then compare them to anything blackpill. You will see zero similarities.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 02:01 AM
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Yes that is what black pillers believe in but will play a part. Blue pill has nothing to do with being a lookist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 01:54 AM
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Ok, red pill takes what they see as truth and believe now that you know the truth can win one over the system. Anyone can change and become successful if you put in the work. Black pill are more nihilistic that the red pill doesn't agree with. Reality is rigged and some people are destined to fail no matter what they do. They go against red pill stuff because it's offering false hope. Black pill is somewhat a splitter group from the red pill. Blue pill and red pill were on seperate sides. Blackp…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 01:40 AM
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blue pill "just be yourself and be good/good morals" black pill "People are not good and their actions are based on context and self benefit (mostly socially) rather than morals" Black pill and blue pill have nothing in common. Hell black pill and red pill have at least something in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 01:21 AM
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Red pilled doesn't "battle" black pill they try to help their fellow brothers get out of this mindset and try something new, but a decent amount of black pillers tried the red pill and failed. None of these 3 can allied because they are so different.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 01:08 AM
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>due to the fact that they have no real world experience and understanding of human sexual dynamics, > has a no compromise approach to improving their character or personality, claiming there is no need to develop hobbies, talents, charisma, or anything really. I have seen most black pill people go down different routes before and still fail then conclude that black pill is the answer. Some start out young because they see how different they are treated compared to more attractive men around the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 12:34 AM
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If you sleep with alphas and settle with betas you don’t love the beta. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 08:50 PM
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I’ve seen countless attractive girls with average/ugly guys. Oh wow they got settled for...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 05:56 PM
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That means they don't love them :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 05:51 PM
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Male dominated careers, like mine, are such because women were prevented or at least discouraged from doing them before. More and more women are getting into these types of careers now and can do them without men. It takes time, but its happening that women are increasingly getting those jobs. Not really men and women careers are still different just off gender. Men like some women like some. I don't see many women drilling oil or joining the military compared to men. The dirty hard jobs will al…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 05:39 PM
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I will say that they aren't needed to run things. Might wanna look at careers that are male dominated, you might be suprised. Yes there will be cat ladies that end up alone and there will be men like you that end up alone. That's just the way it is. I like how you keep saying men like you that end up alone. You sure i am alone? She has a friend with benefits Shocking, thanks for proving my point. She could get a husband if she wanted because she is very pretty and intelligent but she just has no…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:35 PM
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Before I was married I tried dating less attractive guys because I'm more attracted to personality, regardless of how you say it's impossible. I gave them a chance and they turned out to be assholes just like the attractive guys. My partner is so attractive I almost didn't go out with him because I thought he would be a jerk. He is the nicest, most considerate and caring man I have ever met. He treats me like a queen so I treat him like a king. People, perfect strangers, tell me constantly how h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 05:57 PM
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Are you saying you know what women do better than they do? ? Women are the ones that confess to this. They try to hide it but at least some are honest. If a women wants to sleep with a Chad that's her business. Maybe she doesn't want to get married yet. Sometimes a woman may sleep with someone knowing full well it won't be a relationship just because she thinks he is hot. Just like how men sleep with hot women with no interest in having a relationship. She does want to get married though. See th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:22 PM
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No women could easily get what they want but are blind. Men feel left out because they are invisible and have to wait to be settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:19 PM
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They do though, once the chad gives a attention to these women their ego goes up. A “chad” has no issues getting with women, but then women get mad when he pumps and dunps and she couldnt get a ltr out of it. Then they go on about where are all the good men or all men are like that spree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:18 PM
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If they could get a ltr from the guys they want they would. The argument is they ignore the ltr guys they end up with because they settled with them. If a guy has tough luck during college and is invisible why would he feel special all of a sudden when the women that ignored him now want a ltr with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:15 PM
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Yet they still fuck him lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:46 AM
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No? They cant get these relationships and then settle for the guys they used to ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:45 AM
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27-32 is the statistical average. Doesn’t change anything they are still having casual hookups and are trying to get relationships out of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:36 AM
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This doesn’t matter though women are the controllers of sex and when they get it some a guy out of their league. They believe they are in that league. If a guy is using his money he is 100% getting sex or hes an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:34 AM
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Majority of men don’t sleep around. Looks at male virginity rising, 1/3 men no sex etc. If it was equal it doesn’t matter then really. Woman have an easier time obtaining sex, yet they still lie about their past. Most women are not getting the man they want. They say they care about personality but couple searches through here and you know its all lies. Of course i am jaded what do you except. These people aren’t falling in love it’s fake. He feels lucky because he finally got picked, she feels …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:31 AM
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Isn't that what men keep complaining that women don't do? Lower their standards and give them a chance? Men don't want women to lower their standards when they can't obtain the top. Why would a guy wait in the corner as she has casual sex and then be like oh she finally lowered her standards for me, surely she actually loves me. Giving other men a chance? Many women do have their fun while young as do men. " Wouldn't you if you had the chance?" Majority don't give other men a chance early. Major…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:32 AM
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>Age 39. She 100% had her fun and settled with him. She doesn't find him attractive but she may enjoy his personality. It happens all the time, she was probably tired of being treated a certain way by the men she liked so she lowered her standards and gave him a chance. I'm sorry if women don't fall for your personality. That is something that can always be improved if you're willing to put in the work Women rarely fall for a guys personality though. My personality is fine, i have no issues with…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:53 AM
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It's around 27-32.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:18 AM
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The woman he married as bred with him who he cheated on, with a porn star and who would probably get more money if she divorced? Both have egos then, she would get more money that's just how the system works. Didn’t she have sex with him? The world may never know. I was talking about guys who didn’t have sex with women since that’s what men what, the same way women don’t get relationships from the guys out of their league. If a guy is getting used for his money and not having sex with her. He's …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:17 AM
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Do you really think that casual sex with men out of their league gives women an inflated sense of ego? Do you not see society in it's current state. The answer is Yes. If guys had a strings of out of their league women who used them for money and didn’t care have sex with them would they have an inflated sense of themselves? Yes. Donald Trump's and his wife comes to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:55 PM
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I don't care what you find attractive, i'm just stating that calling those red flags are brain dead. Majority of guys guess what dabble in the "basic male hobbies". You might be a lesbian....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:52 PM
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Settled with, look at divorce rates. Women will settle later in life after they get pumped and dumped and realize where they actually stand for relationship/marriage material.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:43 PM
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Yeah anything that you are really into you most likely are gonna have to find someone that is also full weeb if you are a full weeb. I feel most people will watch some anime, go the gym, do an outdoor activity though so it's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:55 PM
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Depends on the setting, make small talk, jokes get some laughs, compliment their outfit. Basic shit, holding the conversation, the problem is i get boring responses and try to push it keep things going and then just quit. Learn stuff about them, how the week went.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:33 PM
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By the way, women more often marry deformed or disabled men than the other way around. Settled* because they finally realized where they stand after chasing out of league men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:31 PM
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I gave you a percentage and you disagreed so i upped the percentage and asked what you think % of men fit your low standards. If you think men's standards of themselves are low then you better think so are women's. I don't see how men's standards for themselves are low at all. Even if they weren't what you described they are still invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:28 PM
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an actual book Ok i will red flag women that read erotic romance books since it seems trashy. Comics and manga are childish and associated with weird nerd culture. ??? You know how many athletic gym bros are into manga,anime,comics. Just admit you have no idea what these things are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:23 PM
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Wow, you’ve discovered that people have turn offs, must have been an epiphany. Yeah all 80% of men dont meet standards for women. further prove that you don’t have a countering argument. You yourself haven't made a single countering arguement. Majority of guys aren't dirty, lazy, anti-social, broke, no future. Obese people go with obese people. Well, obese women think they deserve a chiseled athlete god. The question is specifically about men Are most modern women's standards for men too high. >…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:19 PM
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You only need to tick off one, broski. Then that works for women also, guess what modern women’s standards for themselves are too low.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:09 PM
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Feminism lmao, nevermind i take back everything i said.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 09:09 PM
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Yet she still goes after 1. guy because she feels special and will settle with 2. when she stops feeling special.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 09:07 PM
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So you think idk 20-30% or more are complete degenerate slobs? How could so many men be broke with no future slobs when majority of our infrastructure is ran by majority men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 09:04 PM
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It wasn't an attack just curious. To answer why, grown ass men reading about big boob fighters from space or big boob Japanese Sci fi drama is not a grown up man, an adult. I guess you assume manga/anime is only about big boob fighters. I read romantic, historical, samurai, Drama, Horror, Supernatural stuff. no big boobies in my stuff. TV shows and books are not red flags as long as it's not anime or Manga or comic books You know tv shows have big boobed scifi women right? Edit: Guess what my fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 09:02 PM
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I would call you a rare then if it's true actual love and you didn't settle with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:58 PM
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How is manga or even comic books a red flag? Would you consider someone who reads book a red flag? Women i know binge watch tv shows is this a red flag?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:52 PM
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You said modern men's standards for themselves are too low, i don't see this at all. It's probably 3-8% of guys fit this. Even for the guys that aren't this they are still invisible. It wasn't a pat on the back to myself when majority of men are like me and fit the narritive of a normal functioning guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:49 PM
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Depends did you have a bunch of casual sex with out of your league and then go back to an average guy and setttled with him? Do you actually love him more than other men you had sex wish? Do you wish he was better?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:46 PM
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Struggling to get sex is not a major issue. Men who complain about not getting sex aren’t gonna fucking die. They won't die but it's going to hurt their relationships when they eventually get settled for. The woman will have more partners/sex and will cause insecurity/trust issues/pump and dump once he gets sex and he might of actually liked her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:40 PM
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No, the average guy will get settled with eventually. Majority of the time she doesn't love him and boom high divorce rates. Edit:Hm downvotes but no response, almost as if women don't want you to know they settled for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:33 PM
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Men complain about women being whores but then say they want it to be easy for average men to date The issue is the average man is waiting for his turn, so they complain about whores. Women will hit a wall when they don't get a relationship from the better looking guy and then come back to the average guy that didn't get sex like she did. If it was easy for average guys everyone would be a whore then. Do you want women to have an n-count of a trillion? Only way dating "gets easy" for average men…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:29 PM
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Yeah below average woman can go out and get sex easier, have stronger circle of family/friends. Woman are the controllers and if they want a relationship they can jump in one easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:23 PM
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Ok what do you tell guys that are none of these? I am lean, clean place, dress clean, face clean, proactive in career and life, hold conversations/social no real issues, i have good money, future is looking good with promotions and education.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:20 PM
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Yeah you're right, idk why i used the word force. They aren't forcing them, just giving really good incentive to go into STEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:28 PM
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Kinda curious wanna spill the beans or dm me these 3 questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 01:12 AM
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Yeah if they actually wanted this plan b man they would have went after them at the start. If you aren’t in the top % percent of men you have to make sure she isn’t using/being settled with. People try to say oh they are different types of love and she can still love you but the hard truth is she most likely doesn’t. If she is making you jump through hoops the last guys didn’t it’s not worth it. Unless you know 100% she is a virgin that wants to wait for someone special.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:28 PM
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I mean i talk a lot of shit and bitch but my life is together. Only thing i’m honestly missing is a gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 04:04 PM
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I was in the military? Still have dating issues lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 02:28 PM
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I’m sure it is with both genders but i have seen lower attractive men get treated worse. I guess i have never seen lower attractive women get treated poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:57 AM
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I was told "You’re gonna make a girl so happy one day.” and "You will find the right women someday." That's when i realized i was dead inside. ​ sexual attention/people in general being nicer to them. Even though this seems illogical to me personally. Side note, i have seen this my entire life. The better looking guys always get treated nicer.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:36 PM
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It made me more blackpilled, unfortunately i don't think that's helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:32 PM
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They are not attracted the same as Chad, but they can love him more than Chad. No real love is loving looks,personality,everything about the person. Looks are also the first priority for women. This is not real love. they can love him more than Chad Then why don't they go after these guys first? If he doesn't know he was settled for, that is a good thing. That is fucking toxic. No wonder men have trust issues. Imagine being lied to your entire marriage. You obviously just want men to be little s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:24 PM
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But they don’t love them the same as chad. Plus their husband probably doesn’t know they were settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:51 PM
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Yeah just different areas, just saying i haven't seen a decline. I have definitely seen a decline in men approaching women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:50 PM
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Nah you will always have resentment that you didnt go to the more prestigious school
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:45 PM
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I have been around the “attractive guys” my entire life and let me tell you not only do they get treated different but they get approached like crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:44 PM
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I could see it being true for a lower % of women but its a way higher % for men. Majority of men will never have women approach them/go after them and if you just sit around you are gonna have a bad time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 06:42 PM
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Men have to approach someway or they will never get picked. Some men are already invisible and have to try otherwise nothing changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:27 PM
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? I have seen it my whole life. Women approach attractive dudes all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:24 PM
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I’m back. If she loved/wanted Harvard(Chad) but had to settle for Iowa (beta) she doesn’t really love her choice but she settled.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:15 PM
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I couldn’t agree more on this. At least i have seen some women be honest about it. They give up sex quick to take hold of the “Chad” but when it fails they go back to Plan B and put on this cover that they don’t give up sex easily. I hope most men are starting to realize this and understand he is most likely being settled with and she probably doesn’t find you attractive but you are stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 11:48 AM
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Welp you win, women will surely love the betas just like they did the chads. Nothing is wrong here. Beta's just need to wait their turn and be happy some random promiscuous women choose them to settle with. good night/good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:23 AM
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You can be attracted to a lower grade of man and love him. You. Can. Not. Be. Attracted. To. Him. Otherwise. You. Would. Have. Given. Him. A. Chance. Before. The. Chads. You have proved Dual Mating Strategy from your posts. AFBB, If he is a lower grade man She. Will. Not. Actually. Love. Him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 11:58 PM
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Women do love the betas they settle for. Ahhhhhhh see now you are using the word beta. Crazy.... It's almost as if this is the Dual Mating Strategy. It only took 37 posts. But we have arrived at our destination. P.S. Women do not love the Plan B, Beta that they settle for. They never will and they never have. They are settling because that's all they are left with. He has stability/provisions but she doesn't find him attractive. There is no love, they only want attention and validation. Again i'…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 11:43 PM
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A man that has been settled for is like going to the University of Iowa when you wanted to go to Harvard. You can be happy at the University of Iowa even if it is not as good as Harvard. Stop comparing college's to a woman's love???? Divorce rates are not because he is Plan B, but because women can't tolerate his annoying quirks. LMFAO i quit, society needs to collapse already. can't tell if you are religous and want people to till marriage/later in LTR? Very true. Well at least i agree with you…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 11:18 PM
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No, he's loved. How can a man that has been settled with be loved, look at the divorce rates...Go on all these different subreddits that talk about men's stories being this Plan B guy. It should be that way with all guys. I can't tell if you are religous and want people to till marriage/later in LTR? Or you are some crazy feminist that hates men? You seem to be ok with women choosing the top and settling with Plan B obviously. They get a lifetime of devotion. LMAO Yeah Plan B guys should wait un…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:46 PM
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When men ltr an alpha's ex, they are doing that because they can't do any better. Missing the point. Plan B isn't loved. Plan B guys generally aren't having sex until they are finally given a chance for the LTR. Again AF/BB. Plan B guys are treated like trash and are expected to suck it up. This is different from dual mating strategy because women don't think in terms of alpha fucks-beta bucks. They think in terms of attraction tiers or totem poles. They pick men the way they pick colleges. If I…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:16 PM
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lmao gotta make sure no single mothers also :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:08 PM
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I'm not saying it's ideal, but a man needs to do the best he can. I'm sure being settled with, not really loved, plan B. He is going to have a great time. You can love and build a good life with a Plan B guy. Lmao, you must not see how high the divorce rate is. These women will never love you like they loved chad. I will answer it now. Women don't go for him from the start even though he is a perfect ltr because he is not the best on the market. Women want to do their best, not their second best…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 09:47 PM
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wow... First, why would any guy want to be plan B? He is a loser,beta,invisible to women, treated like shit by women his entire life. He should just sit on the side lines and wait for women to pick him since he's plan B? Women do NOT love these men, he is less attractive, he is being used for her gain and to keep her going. I have been saying this for years. Don't jump through hoops the other guys didn't. Second, You also didn't answer my question "Why wouldn't women go after this guy from the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 08:54 PM
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You keep agreeing with me.... Women simply date and sleep with the most high quality man they can get CAN GET.....if this doesn't work out guess what they can also get to commit. They go for the invisible guy that is LTR material and treats him differently then the last guys. Because guess why, he's a provider. Why wouldn't women go after this guy from the start? He is the perfect LTR for them? Also you can look at all the posts around here of doing dual mating strategy. She has a wild past coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 08:25 PM
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is a theory in evolutionary psychology regarding human mating strategies that suggests women have evolved to evaluate men in two categories: whether they are reliable long term providers, and whether they contain high quality genes. ​ Women goes after chad for high quality genes. She either gets it and wins or fails. All women will try this no matter how they look. Now if she fails, she will be late twenties+ and will start to go after the reliable long term providers that she used to ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 08:03 PM
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lmao and when it doesn't work out you go back to the invisible guy and settle. Thanks for agreeing with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:55 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/t3epjz/dual_mating_strategy_why_men_need_to_be_aware_of/ here is a good one, they most definetly do it but try to hide it. I see it all the time. Have fun in your twenties and then when you get older go back and settle with that guy you never gave a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:14 PM
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She would never date you if she did not find you attractive. Happens all the time, Dual. Mating. Strategy. Less sex is the price men have to pay for low body count. ??? It's women with the higher body count. They are the controllers of sex and chase chads. She used to fuck random guys and now she wants an LTR and wants to make you wait months.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:09 PM
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They are and majority of them get away with it, some of course wish they could. "If he wasn't aware of this dual-mating strategy, he may live happily for sometime believing the girl he is with does truly want him. Someday, that belief will be shattered and it would be devastating to the guy to know that he was just a Safety Net for her, a Plan B. Specially if he truly loved her."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 04:56 PM
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yeah true, that's why a good friend would say no to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:11 PM
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I mean yeah i guess, just depending on the friendship. Would i be hurt if a close friend fucked her if i knew it was over 100% and i didn't have any feelings/wasn't hurt. Hard to know since it's never happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:39 PM
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It will be best if you do learn how to approach women. Learn some social skills and learn how they think. Also, maybe learn how groom yourself, buy clothes that fit, find a style that suits your body and your character (not saying that you don’t already do this, it’s a suggestion). yeah i learned young that how i dressed was awful. Please, don’t compare yourself to the other guys around you. The average guy isn’t very desirable for most women, so this is a very bad reference point. Kinda hard no…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:29 PM
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Depends on a lot of things, was the guy really close to his gf? Is he really close to his buddy and not the gf? Maybe if his friend are both really good buddies and he knows his buddy hasn't had sex in a long time, he helps him out?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:24 PM
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If the relationship is essentially over already, why can’t the friend get some easy ass? That's tough, we can't tell how the relationship was. Don't get me wrong she is for the streets, but wouldn't you want the relationship to be over then he can do w.e? Still doesn't that mean your gf was looking at your friend and so was he? What if the friend texted the bf right before, saying “dude, leave her, she’s trying to fuck me”? Wouldn't that be good that he told his friend his gf is trying to cheat?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:16 PM
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Are you able to approach and talk to women? Not really, have i missed an opportunity yeah most likely. And what are your stats? Height? Weight? Age? 6ft 150lbs late 20's You may be lean, although are you fit? Yeah somewhat muscular, Do you have a very well shaped body and eat well? Honestly from looking at other dudes, i would say my body is decently shaped. I eat pretty good. Are you working in an STEM field? Yes If you’re young (under 30), then you’ll have to give it some time. Most men reach …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:04 PM
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Let's see, Stem degree Bachelor's, Good paying job about to get higher (hopefully). Already have good money, own place etc. Work hard, i have goals and ambitions, show effort in things. I see that as work hard and is always good. Now i have stopped working out not sure why tbh. I'm still lean/tall. learn to fight, not sure on this one tbh. Not sure if this is what you are asking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 01:47 PM
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If we start sticking to the more traditional ways, like as men to work out, work hard, earn money, learn to fight, and develop STEM and trade skills, many men will start noticing a difference in their dating lives. You got any more tips because non of that worked. .😎
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 12:58 PM
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If you're the only one that has to wait it's unlikely it's worth waiting for Of course because she wants you to jump through hoops the last guys didn't. ons with chad = AF, making you wait because your relationship material, BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 12:43 PM
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Yeah i mean she could fuck a guy after the date with you and it was good.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 11:55 AM
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I wouldn't believe a good friend? I need my buddy to fuck my gf to believe him?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 11:53 AM
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People wonder why guys have trust issues, you are always replaceable and they don't really love you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 01:14 AM
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I mean is it more "alpha" though otherwise you are most likely a beta in that relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 12:21 AM
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I don’t think leaving based on insecurities is more “alpha”. Better than sitting around jumping around through hoops.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:58 PM
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There’s an imbalance in approaches etc but it doesn’t mean one group controls sex. Women majority of the time decide if the guy has sex. I have been rejected and friend zoned and even a few beautiful women I have spoken to have been. Everyone has a choice even if then and women often have different choices. That is so rare and i have never personally seen it. If a guy is rejecting women or even friend zoning them he must have women on deck at any moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:49 PM
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Let's be honest majority of guys won't say know to a women's advancements. Women say no to the majority of guys advancements. Imagine a world where op's post was about a guy denying a women sex for 9 months. People would laugh, because women are the controllers of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:34 PM
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I agree with a lot of what you said except calling him a beta and denying she could be attracted to him But that's what guys have to look out for, because if she fucks chads and all of sudden starts looking at you for relationship. It's gonna be a bad time. it doesn’t say he’s providing for her. True she may have her own money, place etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:32 PM
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I have heard women brag about it and seen it a couple of times happen. I'm younger though and at the age where people want to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:30 PM
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We do. Yet whenever we express that, we're told we shouldn't. As i said, they should care. Doesn't this apply to men as well? No because she fucked chad no problem, but is making you wait. Why would a woman want a man who's slept around, and has a history of using a discarding women? Glad we agree? Your post of this doesn't make sense now. "If it makes men out there feel any better, it could just mean she doesn't care what some Chad thinks of her, so she has no reservations in using him to satis…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:19 PM
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And here we see the dual mating strategy AF/BB
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:05 PM
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It’s his business. At the end of the day you are right. If that guy wants to take a risk on whether she actually loves him or she's using him. Do whatever you want. If you wanna be the beta and jump through hoops the last guy didn't, fine i wish you luck. If he want's to stay because he's desperate then stay. If he's had enough and knows its gonna be a long time for his next relationship but put his foot down, good for him. ​ This has become the dating strategy and i just don't want to see guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:01 PM
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It's not different at all. Women generally don't care about ncount or sexual history but they should. The issue though it would be hard for women to tell because they would be having sex and she would feel like he wants her. Why would a man want to be with a women that fucked chads, but is now making the beta wait to see if he's worth her. example of both high n+ women with low n+ men AND high n+ men with low n+ women. You will start to feel insecure and wonder if they settled with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:54 PM
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If she really does want him she’s not using him and he’s not desperate for getting over his insecurities. But how does he know that's the issue. Him not knowing is causing his insecurities. I’m not a high n count woman or a casual sex type or trying to diminish his insecurities. That's the issue, if you aren't someone that has casual sex or a high n count. If they guys know about this they won't have an issue majority of the time. But we shouldn’t diminish her insecurities or affection from eith…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:46 PM
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He wouldn’t have to be desperate he would just need to like her and want to stay for love and what she does for him. And if he enjoys the sex after. Or if he doesn’t prioritise sex as much. This is the issue with high n+ women and lower n+ men. She doesn't see it as a big deal, but he has a low number and wants sex to feel wanted and know she actually likes him. But if he’s unhappy about it that’s different. It’s his decision to leave or stay and we shouldn’t assume it’s always because someone b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:36 PM
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Nope, intelligent, stable and matching values and good looking as well Basically someone I respect But why would these guys respect you if you have casual sex and then make them wait? aka a beta... So a good looking Trump supporter can make me orgasm But he can't keep my mind going Are you a liberal that has a fetish for strong trump supporters but you hide it and go back to the beta's that aren't as attractive but will give you stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:33 PM
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I feel like it's so rare for this to work out and it would only work out if the guy is really desperate. A lot of lower number count men would feel like this is all they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:30 PM
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Waiting can be good with someone that hasn't have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:21 PM
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Like i said at the end of the day it's some insecurities that are giving someone else insecurities and the relationship falls apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:16 PM
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Yes those people that wait for marriage don't have casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:14 PM
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They will never have a good sex life, 9 months of waiting....
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:11 PM
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9 months? Not being used?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:11 PM
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They can but it's still going to make the guy feel insecure. This doesn't matter anyway because if the guy is desperate he will be the beta and wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:10 PM
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If anything she might be jumping through hoops to do a lot of things for him. Fair, but he also might be jumping through hoops that the last guys didn't. I think if she didn’t care about making sure other guys didn’t pump and dump her it could June she didn’t care about them and probably didn’t prioritise them by doing a lot for them. That doesn't really matter though, the guy is going to feel insecure when he finds out and feel like she doesn't actually like him. I think a woman can be attracte…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:01 PM
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but the guys also told them that they wanted to wait Now that seems very rare. I believe it happens alot but most women won't talk about the dual mating strategy they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:51 PM
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lemme guess relationship material = beta, stability, not that attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:42 PM
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I mean you hear about women talking about how they do it all the time? Guys might find out later in the relationship and insecurities arise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:30 PM
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If it makes men out there feel any better, it could just mean she doesn't care what some Chad thinks of her, so she has no reservations in using him to satisfy her sexual urges. Whereas she does care what a man she deems to be relationship material thinks, so she wants to hold off and not send a negative message about herself to him. Doesn't make men feel better if just leads to them wondering if she settled with him, wondering if he's good enough for her, using him for other reason, doesn't rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:27 PM
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Her past doesn’t mean she’s using him (see other comment). And if you say red pill doesn’t advocate using women you’re full of it! I just haven't see it from my perspective so i still disagree. I don’t think she’s using him if she does lots for him because users are often takers (especially if she really thinks he can’t do better...so if she’s doing loads for him she either really doesn’t think he can’t leave or she’s doing a lot for him in other ways because she cares about him) and doing a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:09 PM
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you said that it’s a turnoff for men to be sexually taught by their SO with a higher n count. Ah i understand, it's not a turn off. It's more in line with him have little experience so he's insecure as i said above. "Wondering if she settled with him, wondering if he's good enough for her, is she thinking about other guys during sex?" and while women have the same concerns from men with high n counts (because all human beings feel insecurity), it’s nowhere near seen as ‘poor her he’s making her …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:58 PM
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ahahahaha for men it’s most likely the case at least on this sub with sad angry men Now i am the one confused. but for them it’s justified by biology or whatever shit you come up with to back your insecurity up I don't think guys with high n+ really have any insecurities?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:47 PM
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women have the same concern about men with high n counts Yeah never said they didn't, it's just that this situation happens more to men then women. but i guess the insecurity of inexperienced women turns you on ??? how does that fit into anything talked about? This is about high n+ women and lower n+ men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:43 PM
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Of course it's hypocritical, while it's on the rarer side, it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:39 PM
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bruh i didn't read it like that, my point still stands. If she hasn't had casual sex then she's fine. If she has shes a hypocrite just like the guys that have casual sex and want a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:26 PM
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Not trying to twist a narrative, and while what she wrote does match guys mentality and I respect her mentality. It sounded like she has/had casual sex but wants a lower count guy. If she doesn't have casual sex then she obviously isn't a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:25 PM
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It's not an obsession, guys just don't want to be taken advantage by women. I have never really seen red pill advocate for using women. It has shown how women act, think, and try to help guys not fall into the pool of a beta and being used for stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:09 PM
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First of all he still actually can leave and be single He can but if he had a hard time getting women he won't leave. second of all if she does so much for him maybe she’s not using him. This depends but generally she will be using him for stability and sees him as the stability guy that's why she picked him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:08 PM
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That's fine but guys won't see it as that. Wondering if she settled with him, wondering if he's good enough for her, is she thinking about other guys during sex? I could probably think of more but this is something with low n count guys think about when with a higher count women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 06:41 PM
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I'm gonna take a bet that the replies will not be 6ft 150lbs. aka the Lean Twink.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 06:27 PM
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I mainly hear it from women's mouths that they have a past and make the next man wait, i have seen it personally a couple of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 06:11 PM
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A good friend would of said no to her and then told his buddy. The fact that he still fucked his buddies gf means he would do it again in the future if the chance happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 06:08 PM
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Looks > personality we all know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 06:04 PM
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Yup and then guys become very insecure and have trust issues. They know deep down the chick they are with has a higher n count then them most likely and then the thoughts of she is settling with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 05:15 PM
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Don't need to ask, enjoy being a hypocrite. Not that it matters some beta will still end up with you. I look into casual sex encounters separately.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 05:13 PM
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I look into casual sex encounters separately. Sounds like you have casual sex. Committed relationships don’t change anything, but if he’s had more than five causal sex encounters (for example), I’m not going to be interested in him. You want a guy that does not have casual sex. Guys into casual sex are red flags and not guys I’d want as a partner. Again it sounds like you have casual sex but want a partner that doesn't. You are everything people warn about.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:48 PM
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Sounds like you are fine with yourself having casual sex but not your partner. AF/BB
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:28 PM
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Yeah that’s what it boils down to why would a guy wanna be with a n count woman when he is low? She will take advantage of him, she is settling for him and most likely making him to through hoops none of the last guys had to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:25 PM
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Mix between society judging you if you aren’t having sex. Also the notion that majority of women have a decent amount of partners and you don’t will cause issues so you wanna get your numbers up to fit in. Or its an ego thing for you. Depends on the guy and what his issues are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:19 PM
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Red pill tells you Don’t jump through hoops the last guy didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 03:00 PM
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Red pill doesn’t use women it shows you how women act. Red pill is showing you Don’t jump through hoops the last guy didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 02:58 PM
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But most guys can’t leave because that’s all they can get and that’s why she picked him because she knew he would stay in his lane.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 02:56 PM
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Then those men are brain dead and are getting used.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:18 PM
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How could you not bring up her past? She is using him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:06 PM
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Then stop fucking men you don’t care about? Because the men you care about will care about your past.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:05 PM
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It’s the same old speech. Women have casual sex, then find a guy who hasn’t for their LTR. Aka sit in the corner beta and wait your turn. Wonder why men are clocking out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:47 AM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:03 AM
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If you did make every guy wait around the same time, then you are in the rare%. This is why it's not worth the wait/risk because it's rare for a women to make each guy wait around the same time. + as a guy you can never really know how bad her past is and it's just easier to assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 06:44 PM
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Because men generally have a harder time with sex/relationships if you are in the lower pool of average and below. You are invisible and get nothing, why wouldn't men check out when they aren't getting anything anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:21 PM
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That's the difference between men and women. If a guy doesn't focus on sex he gets left behind. Women don't need to focus on sex from achievements because it's easier for them to obtain sex. If men don't go to school because it doesn't guarantee them early sex then I have no sympathy and good riddance. See most men do go and try to better themselves as much as they can because they don't have looks. Same reason most guys that have good looks don't need college or money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:08 PM
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and that's fine but when i tried to be "good" i was always meet with negatives. I turned to a more nihilist/pessimistic and things have been better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 12:08 AM
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As a 35 year old with a hot 23 year old girlfriend, I think pretty often. Tinder was the game changer. Men and women whose social circles wouldnt normally overlap can now see each other anywhere in the city just by sliding over their age settings. But you yourself have mentioned how you are a "chad" and have an easy time getting women. It doesn't suprise me that if you are a "chad" you can easily obtain a younger hot women. Majoirty of older guys are not going to be able to do this. What do you …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:45 PM
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how attractive does a woman have to be for you to approach IRL? 4-5 mainly don't be obese other than that i will most likely find you attractive. how attractive does she have to be for you to message first on OLD? same as above. how would you rate yourself out of ten? 3-5 depending on the women. I have some women shit on me, others say i fit the "type" they like. has this brought you much success? Still trying to find water in the desert.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 10:02 PM
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This is just pessimism. Is it pessimism if it's true? It's not that low for the average man. It's just that it's growing for young men in particular, now that women have greater access to older men. That is a take i have never seen from anywhere honestly. How often are younger 20's women really going after older guys? The biggest factor i see and it's the situation for myself is a social circle hurts you the most and in turn hurts most of the guys that aren't having sex/relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:59 PM
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Yes these average men will eventually get married to a women that has a crazy past and will settle with him, then they will get divorced. Look at sexual activity and how low it is for men and then look at the crazy high divorce rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 08:40 PM
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Only seek a relationship with low N-count women. Yes and if she made all the guys wait a certain amount of time, it's fine to wait. You will need to get proof somehow of course. If she doesn't sleep with you very quickly into dating, then she isn't attracted to you. This is used for promiscuous women, don't jump through hoops the last guy didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 08:16 PM
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Different areas and different perspectives. I see average men having issues, but I also see a majority of men being labeled as unattractive by majority of women right off the bat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:42 PM
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“Few” bad experiences, all my experiences have been bad. Its not just the typical rejection/ignoring. You are still missing the point that everything is done to have sex/relationship/children. Men don’t have the privilege to just wait and not worry about these things. I tried and tried with awful feedback then i gave up. Parahacker had an interesting response to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:21 AM
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I’m average below average depending on the woman. I haven’t given up on bettering myself I’ve pretty much maxed everything i can. Trust issues from people, negative outlook from people. Unfortunately my negative experiences have come from women so of course i will be negative outlook towards women. Just the same as women do to men that have had bad experiences. You can’t relate though because i have had different outlooks, I’ve had everything i want but i am missing one thing. A serious relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:56 AM
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what? They are invisible because they never get a chance. Of course they are desperate for sex/ attention but it doesn’t matter because it never gets to a point where someone could notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:45 AM
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Average men have to pursue. Lmao. Not sure what’s worse getting no where with that or finding a women that will finally settle with you after shes had her fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:28 AM
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Yes i have worked on myself, which is another lie people tell you will fix things. I have resilience from becoming a pessimistic. Self esteem was destroyed when i was like 15. I am very healthy and you can only max out your appearance so much. Personality flaws? People made me this way lol. Its simple stop trusting people. How can i not outsource the blame? My entire life women act like i don’t exist. You’re missing the point, i don’t even get a chance to show I'm dead inside. You also act Hones…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:26 AM
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You think i pay taxes. You must have ignored my post, why would i care if a guy is successful with sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:06 AM
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Lmao yeah i should care about a women's ons fuck up. Those children are not my problem, I’m not the one making the mistake. If you get pregnant from a guy that leaves how is that my problem? You reap what you sow.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:00 AM
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Lmao women have never even given me a chance to see my motivations. I have never pretended to be a good person to get laid. I just don't see the point when it has always been negative. Why should i care anymore when I’m invisible. You go straight to assuming why i became a nihilist but your missing that people made me this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:45 AM
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Hm different experiences i guess, i haven’t seen it that way. I still see guys that are invisible and not given a chance for them to show their values/personality, some would argue at least you gave options to try. Dating is all trash all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:38 AM
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I saw video of women talking about how losing abortion rights will stop casual sex and trying to tell men they won’t have sex with them. The guys that responded laughed because they weren’t getting sex/relationships anyway so why care. I agree with you on your 1. 2. points. Its so shocking that a portion of men have been treated like shit and ignored now all of a sudden they treat you like shit and ignore you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:30 AM
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Yeah i used to be positive and would be labeled as a good person. You know what that got me? Treated like trash, being disposable, being even more invisible to women. People always say just be a kind person and a women will see it and come to you. Its the funniest thing. No matter what path you take it doesn’t change anything so why bother. You have no idea how shit it is for a good portion of men no matter how they act. You have to look at the prism of will this get me a woman because if you do…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:24 AM
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I personally see men trying to give these women a chance but they don’t even acknowledge these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:17 AM
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Yeah everything you said is fucked up, porn has its obvious issues and is very damaging. For some guys its a flat out addiction and events happened in his life that led to it. I see a good portion of men are wholesome though. They are just invisible and never get a chance. You could say the same for women but i still thinks it’s way lower when comparing to dating struggles for some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:15 AM
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If true, i respect that you have values and don't break them but i find it hard to believe you can't find a guy that meets your values. Do you mind sharing what are some important values for you besides looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:48 AM
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Why bother being good when the world has never been good to me? I have tried being that good person. You know where it got me, me being ignored and treated like shit. Women have treated me like trash my entire life, why should i help? Why should i care if someone is doing meth right in front of me? They know it's bad for them, i know it's bad, neither of us care why would i waste my energy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:41 AM
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As a "top," I can tell you that average women pretty much never speak to me unless fate itself hands them some extraordinary opportunity. If I were to hit on one, she would look dazed and confused and assume I'm not actually flirting anyway. Only above average and "top" women speak to me like I'm a real person. And i can tell you that average women have zero interest in average men. If a average women came up to the majority of average men they would be dazed and confused that a women actually h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:33 AM
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A very small portion of women struggle with dating/sex in comparison to men. but then you guys come along and think you're "nice" but in reality you're misogynistic jerks with a massive chip on your shoulders because you're convinced that you're some "Chads" leavings and nothing women can say will convince you otherwise it's sort of sad really. ??? In what world does an average guy that gets zero attention from women think he's a chad? Majority of men want to this "finding a pretty, kind girlfri…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:27 AM
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He is saying a large portion of the male population are invisible and get zero attention from women. Fucked up beyond all recognition. Men will agree to what he said because they have no other option.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:20 AM
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Just play the lottery you have a better chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:15 AM
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Funny i had a conversation with who you replied to. She made her husband/boyfriend jump through hoops all the last guys didn't. Women like the one that posted this and their male lackeys are intentionally trying to handcuff you and suppress your agency. This is why you gotta play the game because they are 99% of the time playing you/taking advantage of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:14 AM
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working on themselves and being nice guys and finding a pretty, kind girlfriend who will love and cherish them as an equal partner Most guys do but they are ignored because they aren't attractive enough. After she has had her fun and is over the fuccbois, she will finally realize this and try to get one of these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:05 AM
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The problem is most people who can hold assholes culpable are other men. An extreme example but "if a nazi and a nazi sympathizer walk into a room, there are two nazis in the room." Woman aren't just angry at the men who are the epicenter of bad behavior. Their mad that men who could help, chose instead to protect those oppressive behaviors. Why would the men that could help care? They are invisible to these women anyway so what's the point? Another extreme example If i walk into a room with a n…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:57 PM
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Is it possible that you can become so successful and attractive that you limit your own dating pool ? No because you are fishing in the middle of an ocean, while others are fishing in a desert.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 10:53 PM
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Every woman would have fewer options. That can only help the guys who remain. No because these women are already ignoring them. They will still go after the top. If you look at these dating subreddits majority of women want to stop cold approachs etc because they don't want lower tier men approaching them of course they change the rules of high top looking men. As a man with a very active social life who sees how other men behave, I disagree. but regardless of whether or not it's most men, you h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 10:45 PM
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Doesn't change anything male issues are still no dating opportunties, ghosting, awful communication. Female issues quantity of guys that they have sex with but complain about the quality. This in turn doesn't matter because they go after the "chad" and get pumped and dumped because he has plenty of options. Women would experience significantly less male interest, helping to rebalance that dating game. Dating would be much easier for most men. This makes it even worse for guys that barely even ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 09:46 PM
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Yeah surely they will be happy sitting around waiting for a women to finally give them attention after she had her fun and is ready to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:08 PM
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From what i see but I'm sure with data showing obesity, rate of single mothers and data of sexual partners it wouldn’t be far off
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 06:04 PM
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True i agree, the chance that she has a low count and makes all the guys wait is low.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 08:36 PM
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I somewhat misspoke, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5795598/ this is old but https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767066?widget=personalizedcontent&previousarticle=0 . I would say on when looking at average, women are able and do have more sex than what would be considered an average man. Average women have sex with higher men, average men do not have sex with higher women. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6326215/ When you get into really highe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 07:43 PM
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That's fair, you would have more experience i suppose. I guess i see most guys not being in the position so they don't have a problem waiting. My views are probably rare in today's society. If a chick 100% courted all men and i knew this, i wouldn't have an issue with it and would wait if i liked her of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 06:19 PM
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I really do believe that most guys don't have a problem with this as long as you do with all the men you have seen in the past. where sex is very available a lot of men, I believe most guys will wait because majority of men don't have this crazy access to sex. Not only that, but a lot of women engage in dual mating strategy so it can be hard to tell the difference between a woman who makes all men wait and a woman who makes commitment material men wait. Spitting facts and that's why most men don…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:50 PM
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I agree with everything you have said so far. I noticed a co worker, checked out social media, her overall demeanor, how she acts around other guys. It got mentioned and she was quick to be open about her past and about her marriage. The alternative if you just end up possibly having sex with a promiscuous person for no reason other than you think they MIGHT be lying/slutty and then you end up hurting yourself too, because the data shows that both genders end up being hurt by promiscuity in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:43 PM
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“if she’s not sleeping with you right away she just isn’t attracted to you”. But that’s literally how high n-count happens, sleeping with anybody you’re attracted to. Some guys even go as far as to say AF/BB or that she’s withholding sex for validation/attention. The issue is you won't really know until later in the relationship if she had a promiscuous past, so you are now waiting on someone that has a higher n count. This then turns into this "Some guys even go as far as to say AF/BB or that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:24 PM
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Would you have had casual sex or noticied your currect boyfriend in the past when you didn't want a serious relationship? Would have you ignored him? Do you only see him an settle/serious relationship material? I will wait for your answer...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:10 PM
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“Good” includes physically appealing and exciting. If he isn’t intriguing, there is no chemistry. That makes him a friend, not a good partner. sex is really the only way to know 100 percent that a woman finds you attractive. Might wanna check out all the frustrated wives on dead bedrooms. Half the posters there are female. Porn habits and death grips destroy intimacy at the same rate as the wive’s disinterest. I assume they don't communicate or even put in their 100% sexual best because they did…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 04:49 PM
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They would never know a "good" man because they judge by looks first. An average invisible guy could be fun and exciting in bed. Insecurity will always happen when the guy has a lower count than a women. Gee i wonder why porn habits and death grips are a thing. Dead bedrooms happen because they want to be reserved and not try to show how they really were in their past because they know they settled with a "beta" and want to keep him in check.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 04:31 PM
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This is utter nonsense - People change. People do not change, if i got in trouble with the law for stealing wallets years ago and it's been a year since. You would be okay with me holding onto your wallet? Kind of a meh example but if a guy was invisible for years but now women want to settle with him, he's being used. Did you want to settle down when you were 21? Most people don't. I sure as hell didn't. Yes and i still want to settle down now im my late 20's. You honestly trying to tell me tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 04:26 PM
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No they don't its the typical she went crazy for "chad" but now that she settled with a "beta" shes trying to be a perfect princess. This guy will jump through hoops that the last guys didn't have to. A good portion are like this and most guys will be fine with it because they are finally get some attention from a women. Dead bedrooms/divorce/cheating will start to happen if it hasn't already.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 04:04 PM
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I guess you will never see it then because women are the controllers of sex. That gives you the choice if you wanna sleep with a guy most likely you will. If you make a guy wait then 99% of the time she is taking advantage of him and he has to be the good little beta that society wants him to be. It's not about being a spoiler child, it's about having to jump through hoops that the last men didn't have to and knowing that most won't put in the work that they did with other guys. ​ people aren't …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 04:00 PM
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This is a rare case then, majority of the time its not mutually agreed on. You both know and are fine with each others body count. Majority of the time women aren't investing as you said you did. All I'm saying is majority of the time if she makes you wait shes taking advantage of him and a hypocrite. Don't jump through hoops the last guy didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 01:43 PM
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If you have had a bunch of casual sex and now find a guy and make him wait you are using that guy. Any guy that waits in a relationship when he knows you gave it up quick with other guys is an idiot and needs to leave her. They can't seem to make up their minds about whether they want girlfriends or human fleshlights. They want relationships but not with women that take advantage of men and are hypocrites. I say this primary in a relationship where the women has a high n count and the guy does n…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 01:32 AM
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it's possible she actually changed. Not possible, if she had casual sex in the past and makes him wait a long time she is using you. Men have also made mistakes of providing too many resources early on, and getting used for attention/foodie dates/money, etc, and they developed stronger boundaries with experience. So if i pay i lose, if i don't pay i lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 01:27 AM
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I'm sorry to say but literally just talk to people at the bars or clubs, everyone is happy to meet you and hear about you. Going to a bar alone, people judge the fuck out of you. When you try to make conversations with other people that already have a group they have zero interest. If you really still can't make friends then you probably have some sort of legit social issue This never makes sense though, had plenty of friends high school, military, college. It just gets near impossible as you ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 10:41 PM
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What was the control group? Did all approaches happen in a non social environment? Or did some occur at a concert or sporting event? Bar or club? I have seen it in high school, college, work, bars, normal areas that are somewhat social and others that people might deem non social don't bother me type places. Cold approaching for anything dating, coversations, asking a normal question all depends on how attractive you are is what i have noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 08:45 PM
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​ If other men weren’t lying and making up phony reasons to approach women all the time, women wouldn’t pull back. It’s nearly always the beginning of a sales pitch. Then you should never ever approach women? If they think were lying and making up phone reasons? Women pull back if you aren't attractive enough simple as. I don't even ask if they are single. I have had buddies go up to other women that i have talked to before and seen how it was immediatly positive. The reality is they are better …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 08:24 PM
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“damn these stuck up women on Tinder!” I guess i don't see people talk like this. Some of you mother fuckers just need a shove in the right direction or some confidence being social. For me i moved to a new area and this is near to impossible to meet new people. I have tried a little bit and i'm still meet with negativity whether its for dating or even just trying to get to know people. No matter the push i don't think majority of people with no social circle will see change.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 08:16 PM
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I mean if you are in a boat where you actually have women who are paying attention to you of course you don't think about the women who aren't. Your post has nothing to do with my reply. Majority of guys don't see women and go i want nudes or sex NOW, they want to women to even see they exist. Coversation, friends, maybe a date etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 08:07 PM
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and are convinced they would actually get if only they were better looking. We are convinced because we have seen it first hand and it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:26 PM
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Majority of guys don't expect this, they just want to be seen as a normal person and not have women instantly brush them off negatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:25 PM
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Anyone care to elaborate? You can tell by their expressions and general body tone that they want nothing to do with you. Even in situations where i'm just striking a conversation it's always been negative. Something as simple as "Oh i see you were checking out that book do you know anything about it, i was also interested in it." Is met with a negative reaction. I have started to notice at work when talking with women and trying to fix their computer issues i am even met with a negative attiude …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:23 PM
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I was saying that between the obesity in women, the high n count, and having kids that it takes away 2/3 of women almost instantly maybe more. For obesity i am not fat at all and will not date a women that doesn't try to take care of herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 08:23 PM
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When you look at a guy what would define him as average?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:42 PM
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she isn't fat, has a low n-count, doesn't have kids, I mean that cuts the dating pool probably by 2/3 right off the bat.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:37 PM
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I mean those small minority cases happen and could have been avoided. I would rather the test be taken and save the 1/100000 chance a guy raises kids that aren't his. It's just a simple paternity test that should be done at birth for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:03 AM
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If women had a test to see if their mans penis has been in another vagina. You would be taking it randomly just like a drug test.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:49 PM
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That's awful to hear you were lied to majority of your life. I wonder if your dad even knew you existed, he abandoned you, or your mother hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:46 PM
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This recently got brought up at work, no I don't believe love exist. Love is a lie; I have never felt love. People are so quick to throw away their own kids or even their marriage over the smallest things now a days. Even if i somehow came to believe in love it is the smallest thread that breaks over anything. I also don't like how people throw the word around, dating for a week oh baby i love you...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:38 PM
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Oh i agree the children are innocent for sure. I would never want to see the children hurt, but i could see the rage from someone and they lash out on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 09:22 PM
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That poor soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 07:51 PM
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I mean that's a deep lie, you wasted your entire life on kids that aren't yours. A wife that doesn't love you and was using you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 07:50 PM
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I mean i’ve heard situations like this before and the husband killed them all when he found out his wife cheated and his kids weren’t his.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 03:50 PM
0

Exactly even though they aren't my kids, shes a devious little hoe. God bless her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:44 PM
0

Yeah thanks, were getting divored now and she's taking 50% of my stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:19 PM
2

And usually older women are more loyal and less the partying type hahaha, they are more loyal now because they couldn't settle from all the casual sex and partying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:09 PM
1

This is great advice, i sat around and waited. Now i'm dating a single mom that has 5 kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 07:59 PM
3

nless you're a very small minded unintelligent incel that cares about my body count. Ah yeah, has standards that a good portion of other men do. Incel. But if you are those things and you care about my body count, I don't ever want to have a LTR with you. Being single is heaven compared to being with you. See how this has swapped now? You went from not having symphony for men not having sex, but you have. Now if a man doesn't want to be in a LTR with someone with a high count, he's an incel. Hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:09 PM
3

So if you quit smoking because you want to be healthy, you're a hypocrite towards people who have never smoked? Sure, but the fact is you still smoked and this past of ours has consequences. I'm not a hypocrite, I've always said it's very easy for women to get sex, very very very easy. But most of us don't want it. You simply won't accept the thought that we don't want the same things as you men want. It is very easy, but the notion that most women don't want it might be true but they still do i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:53 PM
3

Still a hypocrite you don't want casual sex now even though you had a bunch. Just pointing it out most men don't feel sympathy for women that has casual sex and can't find a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:42 PM
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wew lad, I don't care if you didn't have fun. I don't care if you thought it was normal. You had casual sex in the past and this negates you’re not having sex in the past few years because you had a chance to secure a partner. You said i Don't. want casual sex, that's obviously a lie because you had casual sex in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:29 PM
2

That's even worse, why even do it? Not having fun still doesn't change it though, some men have been ignored while you had casual sex and now you don't have it/want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:20 PM
2

I really don't feel sympathy for men complaining about not having sex a lot. I'm not having sex a lot the past few years and I don't mind it, even more so, I don't. want casual sex. You don't want casual sex now. You had your fun but still couldn't find a partner. The past will always matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:02 PM
4

God bless. no and I have good reason to. these women have zero idea about aesthetics, it just doesnt look good and it typically coincides with leftist views, certainly not the kind of women I need. baggy clothes equals fashion obsessed and zero sense for sophistication. I dont need someone trying to pay money on ugly trend products. It says the person is impulsive and easily influenced by marketing and therefore all the propaganda liberal bullshit. no thanks. You might be on to something, women …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:26 PM
3

Short hair can be hot (not bald) on a chick. You're telling me you will never have a gf that wears baggy cloths?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 07:55 PM
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Yeah, I’ve just seen it used as women trying to "insult" a guy even though he took the rejection fine or hell never even got a chance to get rejected. Generally your first post is the definition most people use it as.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:41 PM
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This is on point, but I would also add that women use the word nice guy to describe a guy they would friendzone or the guy is unattractive even though he is looking for a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:21 PM
9

Invisible woman syndrome is so odd to me, men are always told to work on themselves. Women that feel invisible never work on themselves whether losing weight, doing activities, meeting people etc. I have seen some that had fun at early age and now can't seem to find someone because now they are ready to settle down. Your articles are talking about older women, but hell I see women early 20's 30's that probably see themselves as invisible but don't want to work on themselves or have crazy high st…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:16 PM
1

Atleast men treat women who they’re not attracted as normal people, women treat unattractive men cruelly. Ahem
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:10 PM
3

cut your hair short and wear baggy clothes Jokes on them, that's my type.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:04 PM
4

haha women considered average are 8-9/10's for me, while most models or women considered beautiful by most guys are eh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 11:51 PM
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I agree with this, but i also find the first chick better looking than the second chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:58 PM
1

Men shouldn’t want to be with women that think casual sex is a good strategy for ltr, thats a sure fire way to get used. I have tried to date casual sex women and they lied and tried to hide it. You can see stuff and have opinions from the actions of others around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:17 PM
1

I do not want casual sex. I also don’t want to date a women that has casual sex. I am stating that if a man waits to have sex with a women that has had casual sex, she is controlling/using him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 03:46 PM
1

No, they made up their minds after fighting. Majority of men try but nothing changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 03:43 PM
2

? I’m not pining for an answer. People that have a high amount of casual sex obviously don’t want and don’t deserve commitment. Women should hold out on sex just as much as men. Casual sex is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 03:40 PM
1

A slut doesn’t deserve commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:53 AM
4

She doesn’t because the men will be wise enough to not be with a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:56 AM
1

If you don’t care then why even reply. You just called your husband ugly….Thanks for proving everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:27 AM
6

They want to solve their problem and try but nothing changes. If you have the next book of truth for at least 1/3 men getting ignored. Im all ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:25 AM
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Yeah, i looked at the facts that casual sex is all negatives. Leads to bad marriages, Women have high body count makes it hard for them to stay faithful. Std, single mothers, mental health, hypergamy, trust issues, issues with romance and love. I could go on, but if you feel that need to try to have a relationship with these people, i wish you the best of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 11:56 PM
1

Yeah...you are locked in to the choice you made for your life. why do you assume the worst of a woman's motivations? Women that have high casual sex and try to settle down are going back to the men they ignored. Using them. She could have just as easily made a change in tactic after failing before Casual sex isn't a tactic. trying something different that could work... that's wrong apparently Yes, because women that have casual sex have less value. Look at divorce rates among couples with high p…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 11:40 PM
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Nope, the women is stringing the guy along. People past matters and they don't change. High count more problems and women need to realize that. You think majority of men just walk around getting casual sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 11:34 PM
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It's effective regardless of the woman's past actions, that's the best part for them. They can do it, but if a guy finds out later in the relationship that she was the local bj machine but not for him. Yikes. I wonder, do you feel as strongly about a guy who was a doormat or a simp before, getting a backbone and no longer accepting being used by women? Yes, that didn't even take me a second. Simps are awful and keep feeding women's egos. By your logic, he is lying to women by not allowing them t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 11:01 PM
3

Look i will try to make this easy for you. Women that has casual sex + looking for LTR + no sex with new guy making him wait = BAD Women that has casual sex + looking for LTR + has sex with new guy = fine Women DOESN't have casual sex + looking for LTR + no sex until she connection = good Women have the prob 90% power these days, men should NOT jump through hoops that other men DIDN'T. If you make EVERY guy wait a 3 months then it's fine. If you make 15 guys wait 1 date and 1 guy wait 3 months o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:48 PM
4

Yeah it's effective but only if the women hasn't had casual sex. Men should not wait or play games with women that have had casual sex, because they are lying and taking advantage of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:42 PM
5

Again, the men who don't understand why I would make them wait aren't men I want to be with. Depends if you have had a bunch of casual sex. The point is to weed out bad men. "bad men" if you have a high count it obviously doesn't work. Men shouldn't wait for women if they have a past. Why would I want to be with a man who has a problem with casual sex? Because you are stringing him along with no value.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:35 PM
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if a woman wants to find a guy who values her outside of getting laid she has no value... Make him wait You as a man are encouraging/telling men that being used by women is acceptable. Are you gay or a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:30 PM
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A good portion of men value that if you were a whore for a bunch of other men and you don't do it with the new guy, you are just using him. So if making you wait gets rid of them, it's working. These men don't want to be with someone that has had casual sex, most men are fine with waiting IF you have some actual self respect. Every relationship I've ever had lasted well beyond a point where I could think he was just using me for sex. You did all that and you still have a high body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:23 PM
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She is using him.They can make that decision for themselves, but if she has had a bunch of casual sex. You are jumping through hoops that are not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:19 PM
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Because, again, those guys weren't looking for a relationship That doesn't matter she took it upon herself to have sex with them and now when she magically wants to forget her past and find an ltr, she denies him sex. No self-respected man should put up with that hypocritical women. She is stringing you along for her needs. With your logic, casual sex is bad for women since they will look for a relationship at some point. Men should never be in relationships, so they don't have to jump through h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 09:52 PM
7

Oh My. A woman has had a bunch of casual sex in the past.... she is now looking for a LTR....She meets a guy doesn’t want to have sex with him right away even though in HER past she gave it up CASUALLY. Now the LTR guy is jumping through hoops that the men in the past didn't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 09:42 PM
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You are missing the point. Again. It means she's aware that men fake romantic interest for sex, and she wants to make sure SHE isn't being used. She does this NOW, but had care free casual sex BEFORE him, hence he is jumping through hoops that OTHER men didn't have to. You never date a person you have only casual sex with. ??? Odd that women keep doing this yet they complain about how they want an actual strong relationship? You can get immediate sex, or you can get a relationship. Pick one. Goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 09:36 PM
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Women complain all the time about guys pumping and dumping, some situations will be setup for casual sex sure. Why would I make them jump through hoops for a status they aren't saying they want? You're missing the point; women make men that they see as LTR wait for sex when they are someone that has had a bunch of casual sex. Guys that have sex aren't jumping through hoops. If a women gives out sex easily to other men, but when she meets you and doesn't give it out, she is using you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 09:25 PM
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If a women gives out sex easily to other men, but when she meets you and doesn't give it out, she is using you. All of a sudden, she wants this guy to wait and jump through hoops that other men didn't have to. Majority of men are fine to wait as long as they know she hasn't slept around.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:13 PM
3

Wow i didn't have majority of your list. These are sounds things and i wonder if i had these if my outlook on life would have actually changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 03:57 PM
4

They aren’t getting success in the first place. This makes them change and hate women. Accepting doesn’t change that your still getting ignored. You can easily hate nature when it has rained acid on you all year round. If these guys overnight just change their outlooks and morals and go “you know what boy am i glad women are hypergamous and promiscuous” it doesn’t change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 03:01 AM
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This doesn’t change anything, “play it to your advantage” doesn’t stop you from getting ignored. This doesn’t change the fact that they don’t like women who have casual sex. Majority of RP guys acknowledge it and try to max something that women like because its their only hope. They become angry because even after maxing something or trying different things they still have zero success.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 02:32 AM
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I haven't found that the majority of women enjoy casual sex. They probably don't enjoy it, yet they still have it and don't learn from it. Hence why society's glorification of casual sex only hurts women. This is what I see around me so unfortunately it becomes my views. I don't have views that casual sex is good yet its all around me. Looks do play a factor into whether or not you get casual sex. Everyone knows this and even if it's easier for women, some still can't have it. If I see what soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 05:07 PM
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Perfect, if my social circle is considered average or ugly women and they are getting casual sex. I'm going to go on a limb and say majority women are and have opportunity to have casual sex. You can try to deflect all you want with this, it's who you interact with but i have interacted with many different people with different backgrounds. It's always the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 03:51 PM
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Of course she couldn’t hold a relationship in the past because of casual sex. Glad we agree. Then she was, but she still kept having sex on the first date with the guys I rest my case. It’s unfortunate that he has to “jump through hoops” that other guys didn’t He getting played then. If you aren’t willing to be patient, don’t get with someone like that lol I am willing to be patient with someone that hasn't had casual sex. If it dated a girl that had a super low count and liked to wait 3-6+ mont…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 02:27 PM
2

Are you seeing those women who have casual sex deciding to give it up and make themselves wait out of nowhere? I have enough times to make a comment about it. Might just be you, and who's visible to you. People always say this, what I find attractive has always been different from buddies. The typical what is considered hot in tv,porn,models etc. I never found attractive, and buddies told me girls they see as normal/ugly average girls I found gorgeous. Buddies always told me my standards must be…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 02:19 PM
4

Harsh reality and it sucks that happened to her but having all that casual sex was a factor. Her past matters and she couldn't hold a relationship from all that casual sex. Why would her man want to jump through hoops that all the other guys didn’t? 1-2 months is the max a man even consider waiting to have sex with a women that has had a lot of casual sex. That guy is going to stop trying or wonder why she doesn't want to have sex with him, he's just going to start thinking she's using him and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 01:56 PM
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I have seen some statistics go back and forth; the younger generations now are having way less sex. From my perspective I only ever see women having casual sex. "This has something to do with the people you meet and talk to". It seems impossible to find these women you speak of that don't have casual sex. Plus factor in women are going to lie about their past anyways. It is confusing for someone to act like that, but they still do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 01:50 PM
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I simply disagree that majority of women don't have casual sex. It's hypocritical if a women that does have casual sex and all of a sudden, they make you wait but didn't any other man. If a women actually has respect for herself and prefers to wait then I would have no problem waiting, but I would need some hard proof that she hasn't had casual sex. Imagine a man that’s a 1% guy has everything that women want, the "highest value man" that has had casual sex and finally found a woman but made her…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 11:57 AM
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I see majority of women having casual sex and having the fun that society says women need to have. When they find a guy and feel it might be something more they will make him wait. I'm not saying they have an obligation they are just hypocrites. Unless the man is desperate or is just trying to settle like most men, he will be forced to play the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 11:45 AM
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Oh boy I can’t wait to put energy into a relationship and get denied sex. Then later find out she’s had a bunch of one night stands. This time it’s different she’s changed and is now looking for a LTR. Why would men bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 11:15 AM
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Women have sex with uncommitted men all the time and then when a man they see as committable they play the game and withhold it. Why would the committed man jump through hoops that the other guys didn't? If a man is commiting himself in let's say a 6 month relationship, but gave it out to random guys. She is withholding.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 01:02 AM
1

And that's fine like i said i'm not trying to make a conclusive statement. I just find it hard to believe, i honestly would love to see factual data that proves me wrong because it would give me some hope in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:42 PM
1

Looking at the post I originally replied to said most women don't want casual sex and then goes on about going for casual sex. I'm not trying to make a scientific breakthrough and make a solid conclusion. I simply find it hard to believe. I have lived in many different states and have talked to many people. It has always been people having casual sex men and women. Different races and cultures. I'm never going to interact with the majority of people or date them, i will never know them. Show me …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:01 PM
1

I said all and i just find it hard to believe when everyone around me is the opposite of what was stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 07:42 PM
1

Some men don’t care because they either have a high number themselves or just settle because someone finally acknowledged them. Most care they just hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 07:36 PM
0

Thats fine i guess but majority of those people i will never meet or try to date. I made a statement about people around me and how i find it hard to believe based of my observations.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 07:33 PM
1

Brother she talked about literally hitting up a fuckboi. Please i lost 2 brain cells from your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 07:31 PM
1

You typed all that for me to tell you most men just don’t wanna date a hoe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:33 AM
5

I’m glad we agree that women shouldn’t want dick that’s been inside 50 other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:28 AM
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From what i have seen majority are having it whether looking or not. They make an effort not to have it when they are ready to settle down. Most men don’t get the chance to show they transmute that energy to strong relationships and work because they are ignored. By the definition of hvm in your post most men fit that but again women don’t actually care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:10 AM
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Most women don't want casual sex. Funny you mention this and then talk about casual sex and how guys don't give oral. Why would i want give oral to someone that 20 dicks have been in?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:42 AM
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I find this hard to believe, all the people i have talked to this about men and women talk about how they had a high amount of casual sex before marriage or a LTR. Majority of women aren't looking for casual sex anymore because they had their fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:30 AM
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herein lies the lack of maturity as a strong So you would agree that women having abundant of sex also fit into this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:21 AM
10

Women don't realize the power they have these days, until it's too late and they are done having their "fun" now trying to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 10:25 PM
1

When it comes to online its just a fat zero, in person i have had majority of women scoff at me. I find it funny some women i don't even want to date or anything i was just gonna ask them a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:45 PM
1

Yeah not paying is my own fault but since i kinda gave up, i have no interest in paying. I could have the options to change location but i would be surprised if it's any different in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:41 PM
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I would be curious what your nationality is and what type of women you find attractive? I have been around Asian and Indian bros, it is crazy how hard they get ignored even from their own race.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:55 PM
1

I have many apps, but never tried paying which i understand hurts. After talking to other people i feel it's my location, but i wouldn't surprise me if my profile was stale.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:49 PM
2

Damn, sounds like you are in the same boat of not even getting the chance to show off your personality. If everything you said is true the world is in need of a reset.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:47 PM
1

Not the way society is pushing it down everyone's throat about sex and relationships. Most people will realize relationships aren't a mandatory thing and tap out of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:43 PM
1

I don't really see other races often but never really thought about it since i don't interact with them. I suppose i could see any race fit into my attractiveness likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:37 PM
1

Social skills i believe are honestly fine, i don't see my self as a sperg. Standards are mostly don't have kids and don't be obese. A little curve is okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:35 PM
3

Yeah most likely, i have tried taking different pictures. I have no sense of whats good or bad. Never been a picture kinda guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 01:42 AM
3

Yeah true and men should also retain their standards and refuse to settle. If women refuse to settle they shouldn’t have kids through adoption or a sperm donor. The world is already filled with single mothers and men leaving society. Standards get higher and higher every generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 01:20 AM
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Yeah I need to go back to the gym. Zyzz is looking down on us all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:40 AM
8

They either tap out of society or find someone to settle with. Everyone has morals and standards; will he keep them and die alone or give in and settle with a random single mother with a high n count. When you get older all of a sudden, these men are diamonds in the rough for these women that ignored you your whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:37 AM
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White, average looking buds had slightly more success 6ft, lean, white, own place, nice things, money etc. I can't even get a women to go on a first date with me. I must be a lot uglier than I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:13 AM
2

I think you mean settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 11:28 PM
3

That's why I joined the military at 18, I wanted to go to war and just hopefully die.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 09:39 PM
1

Yeah, hooking up will help, surely there are no risks and both will come out with benefits. Why would you wanna put your dick anywhere near that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 11:44 AM
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Girls with boyfriends are not off limits. My normal looking friend made out with 2 girls who both had boyfriends. Shocking. Surely this will turn out to be a good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 01:01 AM
3

All your points are great and are the only real answers. I have been looking into 1. Because i have been been on point 3 for years. I gave up and figured i will just wait and settle later, but it’s an awful mindset. Thanks for the intelligent response.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 12:18 PM
8

For some men they can't lower their individual standards anymore. In my area it's single moms and obese women. I can't do much more for "self-improvement", but maybe women should do some self-improvment and lose some weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:28 PM
3

And men should ignore those women in their bracket that slept around and offer less in return because they realize it didn't work out and are trying to settle now. Average women aren't worth it. Men that have been ignored are clocking out of society and it's women that are paying for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 04:43 PM
1

This comes back to women going after the "chads" and realizing they don't succeed and then come back to the "betas" they left behind. Why would a man that was ignored by these women then want to settle with them. Women are doing it to themselves not a man saying he doesn't want to be with a women with a high body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 04:38 PM
1

Ignored means not getting the chance to take a women on a date or even having the chance to strike up a conversation. Which from your posts sounds like you would do? Men by culture are supposed to be the pursuers and majority of us do. We work on ourselves to meet these standards. We go to events, gyms, sports, random classes, anything you could imagine to meet not only women but other men to get into social groups. When you are immediately scoffed at and "ignored” because you are that 5-8/10 an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:49 PM
1

I mean i guess we have to agree to disagree. I hardly ever see men that just want casual sex. I always see women that are more casual at my age (mid late 20s) but they will hit that wall and want a LTR. You ignored most of my post and my point is the definition you have of lustful man meets a good chunk of men but they are still ignored. From these posts and your opinions i hope you find someone before it's too late. With your standards you are going to hit a wall and start looking for a LTR bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 02:27 PM
1

I feel as though most men just want a normal family and normal human social standing, love and adoration comes with those most of the time. The guys are unlucky though because once women hit the wall of, I can't find a LTR they will start to look at these men. Some of course are unattractive but most I would say are trying to match with others on their same level. Men are taping out of society for exactly what you just said about beta bux. Why would men want to be lowered to that, why would men …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 01:53 PM
1

It was an old buddy that I was describing. It's funny though he was really outgoing. He had characteristics that I hear women say they love to see in a man. In the end he was short and never got attention from any women. I hung out with him all the time and was honestly shocked on how much bad luck he had considering he was a good looking dude that took care of himself (I take care of myself also, but I’m average as hell in the face). I being 6ft, lean, outgoing, hobbies etc. I also never got at…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 12:44 PM
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Everybody settles and everybody gets settled for. Everyone doesn't settle anymore. A high chunk of men that never had any affection from women their whole life are tapping out of society. Why would they want to be settled with when the same women that ignored them can't find a LTR and start to come back to these men? I suppose this could happen to some women also but gonna be less likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 01:13 AM
2

What if you are a virgin not by choice. Are you still an asexual juiceless lustless no fun man? If the guy didn't care about virginity would you sill not want anything to do with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 12:48 AM
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