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discussionLeotheLiberator/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/23 10:55 PM
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Obviously but that doesn't change some of these things having nothing to do with misandry? Like the draft? Or circumcision? War and religion are misandry?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/25 02:35 PM
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I've been in this sub for a long time. I've seen some ridiculous coping mechanisms for opinions. Blaming misandry for circumcision is one of them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/25 01:43 AM
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I assure you. Misandry is not the reason why Christianity and circumcision dominates western society. Genuinely insane thing to think.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/25 01:35 AM
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Misandry isn't the reason people don't care about circumcision. That's religion. Men are priests and rabbis. It's a male dominated field. Like that's a super weird thing to try to blame on misandry when women aren't even allowed to be in the room when those decisions were made.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/25 01:27 AM
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You're blaming women for a thing that men have dominated for thousands of years?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/25 01:17 AM
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About half of those things have nothing to do with misandry? Like your first point is circumcision. How is that misandry when women aren't even allowed to be priests/rabbis?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/25 12:20 AM
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No one is forcing you to do anything. You are choosing to behave this way and blaming it on social pressures that are not cultural, religious, or government enforced. It is a choice you are making and you're blaming it on vague, social constructs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/25 08:31 PM
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It's a narrative. Society is changing for better and for worse. People think scrolling endlessly on apps is dating and socializing. We're afraid of our neighbors. We glorify unrealistic expectations of life then wonder why we struggle to connect with others. Women feel it too. Men just feel it in a way that is more ostracized. Every guy who says he struggles to date and then talks about dating apps is feeding an algorithm that is statistically not made to promote community but to keep their atte…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/25 12:20 AM
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Arguably, this is common sense. Other stats like recidivism prove this. It's not that every man is violent, it's that there are violent men and they can be repeat offenders. But with that said, you can't blame women for the hyper cautious approach. We can clearly identify that there is a constant and reoccurring threat.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/25 06:30 AM
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You don't have to do anything. Giving in to random social cues from the internet is a choice.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/25 03:23 PM
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Just go out and date? Focusing so much on apps and gender war nonsense isn't healthy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/25 01:11 AM
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See a therapist or talk to actually family and friends. Stop seeking validation from random strangers on the internet.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/25 08:10 PM
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Because the vast majority of trans people are trans women and misogyny. Becoming a man is not seen as a weakness or a betrayal. Becoming a woman seems like the easy way out, something to be looked down upon, to keep in secret.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/25 01:15 AM
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So by that same logic, the gender of the aggressor is also irrelevant to classify it as misogyny?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/25 08:43 PM
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I'm going to stop replying to you now.. Thank god.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/25 08:40 PM
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You are the one here trying to make a snide remark of "Who are the aggressors" This is called a projection. I asked a simple question but because you're aware that it puts holes in your point, you think it's "snide". Honestly, I can defend this point better than you with a little intellectual consistency and data.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/25 08:05 PM
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So the gender of the victim is relevant, and the reasoning behind the violence is gender related, but the gender of the aggressor isn't?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/25 07:46 PM
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Okay? so what's your point? If a man assaults a man, that's the fault of misandry? If so then you have a very warped idea of how the world works... Well it was your idea so...?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/25 07:43 PM
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You didn't answer the question.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/25 04:57 PM
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Who are the aggressors?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/25 04:25 PM
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You're comparing abortion to rape. Your opinion on morals is meaningless.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/25 05:24 PM
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No. This is objectively false and proof of the point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/25 04:45 PM
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So is a newborn baby, or a baby in nicu,.. These require labor, not organs. tbh it's just killing another human, which is fine, but pls don't claim moral high ground Or even think you are better than a murderer or a rapist or /some other henious crime By your logic, a victim who had an abortion and her rapist are equally "fine" and "moral". This is proof of the point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/25 04:38 PM
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The conditions that put the fetus inside the mother are Irrelevant. She revoked consent to have her body used by another. You can also hold a firm stance on an issue regardless of how much people try to use "nuance" to loophole your autonomy. You are also proving the point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/25 03:09 PM
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A fetus doesn't have autonomy as it requires the body and organs of another person to survive. Your logic is proof of how morality is used to invalidate the autonomy of women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/25 01:38 PM
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For this study, they most likely didn’t have enough Asian males for the study. That’s it dude. It has nothing to due with incarceration or anything else lmao OP forgot to add it. All that extra shit you're trying to prove and it was a typo. Lmao
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/25 03:15 PM
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Most of the men here don't want to advocate, they want to complain. They want to share their hate for feminism and social pressures but have absolutely no desire to make any effort or join any initiative to promote change. Too many "anti-feminists" types with no goal but reacting to Feminist media and consuming red-pill nonsense to continue the cycle.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/25 03:11 PM
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Correct.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/24 05:28 PM
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Congratulations on being younger than 10 during the time frame you're discussing. Boomers, for example, are between 55-75. That's who would know.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/24 12:52 PM
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I don't understand where these ideas come from. Maybe anyone over the age of 40?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/24 12:20 PM
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As a black man, this is meaningless. It is possible, and historically common, for people to be 2 things at once like racist and feminist/religious/socialist/capitalist/etc. Gun control has racist roots. Vaccinations have racist history. Making prostitution illegal has racist reasons.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/24 03:55 PM
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Treating any demographic like a monolith is a logical fallacy that results in equally flawed responses.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/24 12:01 AM
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I think those groups lump themselves together and then wonder why no one cares to separate them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/24 09:16 PM
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We are communicating in an echo chamber right now mate. Yes. About men. I am a man. This is pretty straightforward. but weird why for men you’re in a group that talks more about broad action and statistics I do not speak for, represent, nor adhere to this group any further than it being a place to discuss male advocacy without being overwhelmed by right-wing incels. How you choose up engage in this sub is your business and I genuinely don't care any further than that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/24 08:31 PM
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Sorry, my views on women are shaped by my real world experiences with them, not reddit subs and echo chambers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/24 08:24 PM
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Those groups have very little in common. Strange thing to add when we're discussing what they have in common.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/24 08:23 PM
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I have no idea. I'm not a woman and don't spend my time in exclusively feminist spaces.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/24 08:17 PM
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Because most spaces for men's activism or advocacy gets overrun with right-wing, red-pill, incel types who are more anti-feminist than they are pro-masculinity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/24 07:05 PM
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Honestly, this is stupid and makes you sound racist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/24 11:33 AM
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hasn't this sub gone to great lengths to differentiate itself from the male chauvinist spaces? Meh.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/24 05:48 PM
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Conservatism is self-reliance No, it is not. I'm not sure how it's my "projection", I just read your words and made sense of them. If you are taking away anything except what I said, it is by definition a projection. I don't think you're qualified to be giving such strong opinions if you aren't interested in learning these simple concepts. I don't care what you think since you clearly don't care for intellectual honesty.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/24 05:00 PM
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but your opinion was rather explicit with its conservative lens. No it wasn't. That's your projection.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/24 03:34 PM
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I said nothing like this. It is your opinion.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/24 03:02 PM
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The fact that the thread is on Incel Tears is the red flag. Not that he sent a message saying he still needs professional help and that lonely men are a threat to women. That's not the red flag. Me posting a deranged rant from a random who grossly misunderstood my response is the red flag? Funny. That place likes to label any kind of Male Advocacy Reddit as an Incel. "Give me attention or i might commit violence against women" sounds like what an incel would say.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/24 01:05 PM
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Yes. It applies to everyone.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/24 04:45 AM
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No, I'm using the message this guy sent me. Don't send people random messages.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/24 12:42 AM
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The number of men and women who support criminalizing abortion is about 50% for both. Source? Nearly half of men, is enough men to make “Men will help protect abortion as a right” a true statement. It also makes "men are the ones stripping away a woman's right to bodily autonomy" a true statement. It's not even our job to carry the children.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/24 06:18 PM
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I think you switched from talking about men as a collective to you as an individual which doesn't allow for honest discussion when men statistically support criminalizing abortion more than women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/24 05:43 PM
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You all I have no idea what imaginary group you're referring to but I'm one person. claim woman dont have easy access to mental health, dont that apply on these people I mentioned? It applies to everyone who isn't rich in America. You are out of reality. You must me groomed by creepy pervert woman. FU You sound too immature to have a conversation about responsibility and accountability regardless of gender or sex.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/24 05:31 PM
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Not sure what you don't understand because it's a pretty fucking simple concept to grasp.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/24 04:05 PM
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How about people who can't communicate because, of either trauma, or extreme social anxiety, or communication disorder? The responsibility is still on them to process their trauma or disorders to live the life they want to live. Only the most extreme scenarios in the best of societies will be an exception.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/24 03:28 PM
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It’s not our job to help secure women’s rights to abortions either, but you bet men are still going to. It's not our job to stop them either. What is wrong with you guys?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/24 12:24 PM
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Just like it was men's jobs as human beings to vote in equal rights for women. Absolute worst example. It was our failure to take away that right in the first place. You can't rob someone then expect them to be grateful when you return their property
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/24 12:24 PM
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I agree. No one else is responsible for your loneliness or sense of community. If you're lonely, there's social groups, sports clubs, hobbyist activities, and so much more that allow you to meet others. No one owes you or is stopping you from finding the people you want to be around. If you're terminally online, think that dating apps is socializing, and refusing to improve your own conditions, than your problems are self-inflicted and playing the victim is a self-defeating spiral.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/24 12:20 PM
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In this way, testosterone is less a perpetrator and more an accomplice—one that's sometimes not too far from the scene of the crime. That's not contest. That's 'context' This article is great for proving everything I said
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/24 07:24 PM
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You are not contesting it. You are questioning it. The answers have been readily available this entire time. You are free to put forth an actual contest.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/24 08:30 PM
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No. It's just reality. You can find a source. It's not a contested idea.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/24 05:34 PM
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Literally every war, most mammalian species, and crime statistics in every country at any given period of time. Testosterone is real and powerful.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/24 05:30 PM
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We often hear about how men are more violent than women. And certainly if we look at statistics and how testosterone works, there's probably some truth to it. To have an honest discussion on these topics we need to understand that this is undoubtedly true and had never been contested throughout all of human history. Men are, by natural design, the more aggressive, predatory, gender. how crimes can be more or less severe depending on the genders of the aggressor and victim. By accepting that firs…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/24 03:55 PM
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There's just too many similar ones to take it's place. You should probably consider the algorithm is tracking you and showing you content that you interact with.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/24 11:43 PM
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this sexualised videos in my feed. It's your feed. Block the creator and move on. My feed is filled with it because I'm friends with creators and SWers. I feel the same about them as I do seeing random fitness videos.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/24 07:51 PM
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So to be clear, you get the same Domestic Violence support line if you write: MY wife yells at me My SPOUSE yells at me My husband yells at me The only one that's different is WHEN wife yells at me And right underneath that link is the same Domestic Violence Resource.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/24 09:13 PM
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That's kinda how propaganda works.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/24 04:00 PM
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Are we including dancers? Sex work is one of the oldest professions on earth. There's a history to erotic art.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/24 07:45 PM
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Paying for sexual media has been there since the mid 2000s at least, Hustler magazine began in 1974.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/24 07:27 PM
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Many Middle Eastern women very strongly disagree.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/24 06:23 PM
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You're looking at the results of feminism in history. None of us remember a time when women couldn't vote, own property, open bank accounts, or press charges against abusive husbands.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/24 04:01 PM
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https://allthatsinteresting.com/female-serial-killers
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/24 07:05 PM
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She wouldn’t have that response if she saw him as a person People are fucking terrifying.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/24 05:38 PM
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You know, this also shows the plight of women too The bunny has every rational and justified reason to fear the fox. Every bunny knows a bunny that has been attacked by a fox. She knows this fox. This is a good fox. He's helped her in ways she didn't know she needed. She wants to trust this fox. But it only took a second for that natural fear to come back. It's fight or flight when the fox shows his fangs. There's two victims of the same problem.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/24 05:07 PM
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"All my exs are narcissists" This is actually a good example. Avoid women who exclusively date narcissistic/abusive men. Chances are that she's the problem but she's gone her whole life thinking that she can blame the men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/24 07:28 PM
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Ok? And? Are you going to tell the MC in the gay bar to stop saying it? Lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/23 07:21 AM
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It's gay club lingo. You can even say the "Gays and Theys" for the same effect. I've only heard it at kink events, lgbt/lifestyle clubs, and music festivals. It's specifically said to avoid the average straight men because that's not who they're talking to. This is a very weird point to make.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/23 12:58 AM
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Honestly, it feels like some posters in here are trying too hard to be offended by everything. Everytime I hear "the girls and gays", it's at an LGBT event where Femmes and representation is at the forefront. It's not for us. That's it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/23 10:20 PM
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Hunter-gatherers were not only more egalitarian, but the men in the tribes were definitely helped to be looked after when they were at their most vulnerable and prone to threats or danger So to be clear here, "most vulnerable" in this case is wounded by an animal or sick with a disease. We have entire industries dedicated to this sole purpose. But laziness and irresponsible? You're more likely to be abandoned, robbed, or killed in a society that doesn't have the excessive amount of luxuries that…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/23 06:02 PM
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it's the conclusion I have reached after looking at the internet,politics and mainstream media. I mean this with nothing but good intention. Go touch grass. Go outside. Talk to real people. Engage with a community that isn't just propaganda wrapped up in profitable packaging.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/23 12:09 AM
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Let's say, hypothetically, that the effects of heightened porn use are mainly on cognition. So problems with memory, emotion / emotional blunting and motivation, let's also say that in the long-term this could lead to a very severe cognitive state... Provide any scientific basis for any of this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/23 02:29 AM
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based on how absolutely emotional you get You're writing essays and I'm telling you to talk to someone who's actually interested. This is called projecting. Lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/23 12:15 AM
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I was facing a false accusation one year, and it messed me up for quite some time. I didn't ask for classes to "lower their standards" for me to pass. I just failed 2 of the classes, I had to retake them, and then went with a lighter workload the following year. It took me 6 years instead of 4 to get my degree "I had to suffer and so do you" logic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/23 11:00 PM
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You tell him that. You're intent on going back and forth with me when the victim you're complaining about is above. Stop being such an asshole and speak to the person directly. Stupid lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/23 06:09 PM
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I'll let you tell him how he should drop out because his rape isn't a legitimate reason to get some leniency in his education.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/23 04:38 PM
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There's another response from a male victim about their mental health and how the assault impacted their education. I'll let you argue with them about their needs and how you feel about their accommodations.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/23 04:30 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/23 04:17 PM
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It's hard to not read this as a perverse incentive That's not how I read this at all. On the contrary, it looks like you have to intentionally twist this around from addressing victims needs after an assault to whatever it is you're implying?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/23 04:31 AM
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There is no "incel ideology". Ideology is coherent reasoning. A bunch of mentally ill men screeching on forums is not coherent or reasoning. You cannot put any hypothetical "incel ideology" on the same line as political, economic or even religious ideologies. This is why I call it "incel culture". It's not an ideology, it's a niche lifestyle. I'm not talking about lonely, autistic men. I'm talking about the ones who have the same talking points they developed through being constantly online. We'…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/23 09:44 PM
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Some of them have valid purpose and exist for a reason. Many were necessary in history but useless in a modern context. Most should be disregarded.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/23 03:02 PM
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Being kidnapped and being forced to die in a war is a pretty serious risk. When was the last draft in your area? How many men do you know have been drafted? Now how many women do you know have been abused or assaulted by their romantic partners? Do you know any women close enough to ask them about their maternity care or reproductive rights? Unless you're in a country with mandatory service/conscription, the difference will be vast and obvious.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/10/23 07:37 PM
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This is a delusional, disconnected response and I'm moving on.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/23 02:32 PM
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In fact I would choose black girl. As a black man, this is an incredibly dumb decision. Not because there's anything wrong with black women but because you've chosen the group 3x more likely to die in childbirth, more likely to face violent abuse, and more. Now you're dealing with the history of the African diaspora AND issues that women face. You just straight up picked one of the most risky demographics of them all and you're reasoning is the draft?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/23 02:15 PM
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This debate on "woke" always bothered me as an individual who existed in "woke" crowds before it became weaponized by right-wingers. Woke has always meant socially conscious, specifically in reference to racial and systemic oppression. That has been the definition the entire time. There are people who put on a performative, exaggerated kind of Woke that always came across as excessive or cringey. Truly, this all feels like what happens when black subculture gets politicized by white politics. Wa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/23 10:12 PM
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And in the real world, with real victims of negligent parenting, this sentiment is nearly non-existent. The internet has too many people exaggerating fake issues and wondering why nothing is being done.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/23 11:55 PM
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People need to stop giving random internet opinions more validity than they deserve.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/23 10:47 PM
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My greatest fears is that she's got a psycho ex, racist family, or lying about her sti status.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/23 11:03 PM
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Not hostile, apathetic. The left does not see men's issues as a priority. There are countless leftists men, it's not a women's only group, but it is one that prioritizes feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/23 07:29 PM
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As another poly man, I feel like we're in a unique position regarding many of these issues. I can not relate to many of the problems men have with women and all of my partners have never displayed the issues others bring up. Our communication, emotional validation, and discussions, are in a healthy place.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/23 06:56 PM
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The internet skews everyone’s perception. It makes you feel like the average woman will attack and cancel you for stating a basic fact about male issues, but it’s not true. Agreed. Most people aren't obsessing over their Twitter wins or reddit debates. Women understand that men have issues unique to men and are fully supportive. Anyone who generalizes an entire gender/sex is unrealistic and caught up in their politics.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/23 04:00 PM
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My opinion, yes. Incels are bad. I'm not talking about people who don't date or having trouble with romance. I'm talking about those who generally follow a specific pattern of behavior and values that have created a toxic incel culture. These people typically have hypocritical views regarding sex and romance, projecting their insecurities onto others, purity culture/trad-wife ideas, etc. Not everyone who is "involuntarily celibate" is an incel and some incels have an existing, often unhealthy, r…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/23 01:32 AM
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Agreed but this is a matter of communication and intimacy with your partner. The burden of pleasurable sex is generally placed on the man. Smart men learn to use every tool and action available so that all of the responsibility is not exclusively on how long he can last during PIV intercourse but even that doesn't replace the desire for a lasting penetration. As long as your partner is happy, people's opinions don't matter.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/23 08:10 PM
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It feels like I escaped violence and I'm pretty lucky now but these two words trigger me and make me feel really bad. I just hear "I'm toxic, I'm toxic, I'm toxic". You need therapy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/23 02:37 PM
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No evidence and he has a history of abuse and neglect? I wouldn't worry too much about it. If what you say is true, any court will recognize a pitiful man's attempt to smear another man who makes him feel inferior. If the mother is on your side and the children have never implied otherwise, you're fine. Not a lawyer, take this as friendly advice.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/23 09:00 PM
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As someone who doesn't use 3rd party apps, has experience moderating groups, and recognizes the need for this sub, it should stay and be allowed to grow to combat the toxicity in other "MRA" groups. I volunteer my services as a mod if they're needed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/23 06:15 PM
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