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| 21 | Where does this myth that men age like fine wine come from?It's just "Revenge of the Nerds" tier rhetoric from men who never had women attracted to them in their youth, then in their 30s women start settling for them for financial security reasons (betabuxx marriages) and they label that genuine attraction, since women never liked them they led themselves to believe that being a walking ATM is somehow more honorable than being an incel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 06:26 AM |
| 4 | Sexuality is toxic.Not to be an asshole or anything, but providing for women/girlfriends/families has been the number one thing generating mass productivity in men throughout societies. Without that aspect, how can men maintain the same level of productivity when all they have is platonic placeholders? Sure, you may find a way to stabilize them, but how do you get lonely masses of men to be as hardworking as before so the infrastructure keeps working? I guess you could just replace them with women, but are women w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/25 03:18 PM |
| 5 | Going dutch on dates is the best way to weed out women with a parasitic mentality.Excellent reasoning, I 100% agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/25 01:32 PM |
| 9 | There is no such thing as "platonic cuddling" between a straight guy and a womanDepends on the severity of how deep in the "gay best-friend zone" you are. If she sees you as the "can't believe he's straight" friend, she could even undress or be fully nude around you and not give a shit since she basically sees you as one of the girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/25 02:39 PM |
| 1 | As a person with daddy issues, I feel kinda offended by the daddy issues stereotype in women.I think you're right, but I also think there is some kind of bias at play. It's likely their family homes as a whole sucked and you're hyperfixating on the father, when the whole cosmos of their early life might have traumatized them. Having a rough start early on can leave you with a bunch of defense mechanisms and horrible habits that are very hard to shake off. One way women tend to cope with traumas is to just throw themselves at men for validation's sake since men are so easy to squeeze att… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/25 09:10 AM |
| 9 | Many men’s dating problems come from expecting women to act like men.I absolutely love the dehumanizing nature of statements like this, and how these gynocentric mentalities are so ready to call the average man a leftover scrap or "strange man" just because they don't fit women's already insane modern standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/25 02:18 PM |
| 2 | Ai robot sex toysI'm sorry, I'm not too well-versed in this, but I thought it was a popular one. Also heard about, it was, Chai, I think? Heard it had less restrictions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/25 12:24 PM |
| 27 | Ai robot sex toysI had CharacterAI for a while (which is, I'd presume, the biggest app for this kind of parasocial stuff) and the most chatted-with bots were male, sitting around the hundreds of millions in numbers of chats. I don't assume it was mostly men talking to Gojo and Levi, so women are absolutely going to get crazy with bots too. Dare I say, even worse than men, given their propensity for erotica and the like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/25 11:23 AM |
| 0 | Men are fundamentally unsuitable for long term relationships/thread succintly put. lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/25 09:14 AM |
| 5 | Being afraid of being betabuxxed or that whatever guy you’re dating is just settling is dumb.That second paragraph made me howl internally. It's absolute cinema how delusional low SMV men can be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/25 02:09 PM |
| – | "Women are not a monolith" but the Tea App is #1 at the Apple storea pathetic excuse they pull to just to absolve themselves of accountability /thread | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/25 11:34 AM |
| – | "Women are not a monolith" but the Tea App is #1 at the Apple storeThey're for escorts specifically, not for regular dating between people who don't associate with that kind of stuff. Moreover, the escorts often know they're being reviewed on these websites, unlike the doxxing going on here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/25 10:38 AM |
| – | "Women are not a monolith" but the Tea App is #1 at the Apple storeIt does make you wonder how women just magically gravitate towards this type of men instead of the, I don't know, sea of perfectly normal dudes who are dateless out there? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/25 10:37 AM |
| 3 | Some men should become better if they want to date women. They should do the same thing as themHonestly man that just sounds like an excellent friendship with a very close bro 😂 What's even the difference between that and romance at that point? The "wanting to bang each other" stuff I'd assume? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/25 05:12 PM |
| 6 | Some men should become better if they want to date women. They should do the same thing as themJust because something is more difficult, it doesn't mean that it's worthwhile. Hope this helps! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/25 03:24 PM |
| 11 | Some men should become better if they want to date women. They should do the same thing as themAllathat just to get with the average woman in 2025. This is "just become batman" tier advice, and fortunately for us it's false, given that men who meet neither of these criteria regularly get into relationships. Attraction is literally just looks and social skills, the rest is just being a better betabuxxer and having a good career so she can piggyback off of you. Love isn't really supposed to be difficult. My advice would be to just maximize your looks, go out with people and put yourself in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/25 12:50 PM |
| 19 | Women are not sharing men. Men are sharing women.How can you be so wrong yet so brave? Such confident language. Of course women are sharing the few men. Men give lots of likes, women don't, men are a lot on dating apps, women aren't. Quick maths result -> Chad wins. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/25 05:56 PM |
| 2 | The belief that femininity is inherently submissive simply doesn’t align with reality (or even history), and is bad for society as a wholePersonally, I don't believe women are necessarily "submissive", but their obvious preference for men who are above them socially and more dominating does raise flags. There is also the issue of women taking status into account a lot more than men do; they are a lot more attuned to power dynamics and are much more likely to gravitate towards the strongest/most relevant person in the room. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/25 02:09 AM |
| 1 | The belief that femininity is inherently submissive simply doesn’t align with reality (or even history), and is bad for society as a wholeShe technically was submissive, but to the snake, as opposed to god. Your argument could have maybe worked if she had a pre-existing curiosity about the apple that Adam didn't have, but it didn't seem to be the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/25 02:01 AM |
| 13 | The belief that femininity is inherently submissive simply doesn’t align with reality (or even history), and is bad for society as a whole"Submissive men", but in the context of Christianity that submission would be to God or a higher authority, not to women. In a religious mentality, it's God > Man > Woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/25 01:59 AM |
| 56 | Men shouldn’t be blamed for not having good social skills and outlets when a society like ours isn’t built to value them.Lots of people's brains are completely fried and they get too bored too quickly from casual interactions if the context isn't stimulating enough (like drinking alcohol at a bar or a party). People these days are rarely willing to put up with each other if sparks aren't flying in the first 5 minutes. I guess it's the overexposure to stimulation and lack of inner peace that makes people desperately chase thrill after thrill on super-speed. I think the covid era overexposed people to technology and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/25 03:59 AM |
| 57 | You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problemYet another poorly disguised victim blaming thread, a tradition on PPD, the cesspool of boomer rhetoric like "bro just be normal and if being normal doesn't work then you just aren't being normal correctly, just... be normal and stuff, bro". The main reason I "love" mainstream, blue-pilled advice is because it's circular. Just clean yourself up, deal with your mental issues, become more stable, and well if that doesn't work then, uh... you aren't entitled to anything! People don't have to get to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/25 12:43 PM |
| 2 | Modern dating is in the state it is today due to Women’s romantic interest and attention now essentially becoming the most dominant if not only currency (in The West)If the advice applies to most people, in general, regardless of age, then it's ultimately correct. The rest is just semantics and wordplays. The "rhetoric" doesn't invalidate the effectiveness of the advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/25 10:10 PM |
| 2 | Modern dating is in the state it is today due to Women’s romantic interest and attention now essentially becoming the most dominant if not only currency (in The West)So "pilled" just means whatever you want it to mean, apparently. Petersonian rhetorique. You say "logic" and "reason" but you never describe what you mean by "pills". You just attack the concept while clinging to a definition you refuse to share, ironically because it would sound too logical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/25 08:06 PM |
| 4 | Modern dating is in the state it is today due to Women’s romantic interest and attention now essentially becoming the most dominant if not only currency (in The West)That's literally the core belief of both the red pill nd the blackpill: attraction is absolutely paramount, even beyond moral capacity or willingness to invest. You're affirming manosphere ideologies while shitting on them for no reason in the next paragraph. You can't go back and forth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/25 07:47 PM |
| 3 | Men who complain about being friendzoned mostly just find women boring and annoyingIt's up to the individual adult to spot out insidious intent (or intent that otherwise doesn't match with yours). This is just the good old "why do deceptive people exist waaaa waaaa someone help me". The modern era for socializing isn't for people who don't understand human nature. Keep yourself safe, that kind of stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/25 04:38 PM |
| 4 | Men who complain about being friendzoned mostly just find women boring and annoyingOr maybe they just find the respective women boring? Just saying, plenty of chicks have male friends in completely platonic scenarios because they have the personality to back up their interest beyond sex. If every man you find walks away when sex is off the table, guess where the common denominator is. That's what happens when you ride off your looks and womanly-charms instead of an actual identity in your social life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/25 04:25 PM |
| 2 | Highly promiscuous societies are often good for Low SMV menThe kings may have gotten to have multiple wives, but what about the Joe's on the street? If their societies were cohesive, most of these guys had a wife waiting for them at home, otherwise there would be huge trouble for anyone involved. It was probably fine for the elite to have multiple reproductive avenues as long as Billy had a wife of his own at home. The issues would appear when and if Billy had no woman to come home to, that's when you'd gradually end up with civil wars and/or no product… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/25 09:36 AM |
| -1 | "Female privilege" only exists because of menCan't blame men for simping, honestly. If men had the sex drive of the average woman humanity would've been gone a long time ago. Someone's gotta do the chasing thing I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/25 08:26 PM |
| -3 | Why do women so often get traumatised through sex even if it’s not anything crazy?Damn imagine being so ugly as a guy that you literally traumatize the chick who pity-banged you. I don't wanna see what that guy sees when he looks in the mirror 😂 Reminds me of that popular reddit post from years ago with the dude who got offered a dance by a chick in college and that opened her eyes to the fact that she hit rock-bottom by approaching such a hideous dude that she turned around her life, stopped going to parties and made the dean's list that year. Brutal 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/25 05:52 PM |
| 9 | CMV: Men use "logic and reason" as an excuse for low EQI really don't know at which point in the course of society did words like "emotion" become antithetical to "logic". Emotions are naturally occurring, sensical phenomena that allow us to interact with the world. No emotions, no experience of being human; it's that simple. There is this notion going around in male circles especially, that you can completely discard your mental reality and just pummel through like a rabid dog through real-life circumstances with no consequences, all under the guis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/25 01:16 AM |
| – | Men are judged for pretty much any perceived lack of independence, but women are allowed (and sometimes encouraged) to be independent at their convenienceMen are dating and committing to mother-material women to all the time - well, attractive men at least, since they get to actually make choices with regards to women, as opposed to mediocre men, who tend to take whatever comes their way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/25 11:53 AM |
| – | Men are judged for pretty much any perceived lack of independence, but women are allowed (and sometimes encouraged) to be independent at their convenienceYeah, that's life. Women get to have this benefit where they can brag about being normal functioning adults for some reason (paying for their own bills, maintaining their own place/car etc), while in men's case, it's not just expected, but any step out of line in terms of being an adult gets you laughed at immediately. I don't know, it may just be that women are more biologically valuable, which gives them more behavioral leeway; kinda like, they make up for their own lacks with their "womanly" … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/25 09:25 AM |
| 48 | Men: accept what you cannot control, and focus on what you can.Every retired incel who luckily manages to hit a jackpot with a woman starts talking like he's Gandhi. Relax man, we knew all of these things, it's like "being a human 101", just some repackaged typical stoicism. "Guys let me teach you the secret of attraction!! If she isn't putting in similar effort, she isn't the one" Woooooooow, you must be the second coming of some long-gone genius. Who would've thought. Just enjoy your life man 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/25 07:50 PM |
| 3 | Men need to have unconditional love.Bravo! Very well put. The person responding to you above (or below) me clearly hasn't understood what you meant about familial relationships, but nonetheless. It is the misuse of language that causes the commotion in these situations. Even loyalty is an economic function: a future investment, based on the past performances or traits of the individual you're investing in. Likewise it can be a function of gratefulness, as you said: someone did x y z for me in the past when i was at a critical poin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/25 03:40 PM |
| 1 | The Market Value metaphor breaks down because products you buy don’t choose you back.It is. I don't know how you derived that from my comment. It's literally a trade; once again, economics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/25 02:20 PM |
| 9 | In a world where you could easily have casual sex with women, would you still prefer to marry/LTR/commit to a “low n” woman?Sure. The point was that if your stats are high enough, you don't actually need to bother with any of the logistics/reasoning/mapping/understanding etc. that other, less attractive people do. You can kind of just... do stuff, and effortlessly enjoy life however you want, while continually receiving support, validation, sex and opportunities no matter what. There's a reason why people want to look very good and be high status. It's the most obvious one: Life is just... very easy and enjoyable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/25 12:57 AM |
| 17 | In a world where you could easily have casual sex with women, would you still prefer to marry/LTR/commit to a “low n” woman?If the cheater is otherwise a lot more attractive than her other options, she might. Women aren't as selective in the promiscuity department generally, and will put up with a fuckboy-ish past if it comes from someone who blows their competition out the water. Not only that, but in order to be a rampant cheater or serial fuckboy, you would need to be very distinctive from other men (attractiveness wise). Not 100% of the time but the overwhelming majority of the time. On the other side of the fenc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/25 12:49 AM |
| 54 | In a world where you could easily have casual sex with women, would you still prefer to marry/LTR/commit to a “low n” woman?Attractive men can usually afford the hypocrisy. Like, when you have enough bargaining power, you can bend reality to your will. That's kind of the whole point of being a "high value man". You play by whatever rules you want because women chase after and desire you regardless. They can casually bang whoever's the most appealing/available in the moment to them and exclusively, monogamously date only women who don't engage in this kind of behavior and who remain "low n". Think of it like a "male s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/25 12:19 AM |
| 1 | The Market Value metaphor breaks down because products you buy don’t choose you back.Yes, we are all so special and unique and such wonderful individuals. It's not "products you buy", it's products you TRY to buy (traits you find attractive), then their owner (the person with ownership over them) decides whether they'll hand them over based on your own traits and what you can share in return. It's still economics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/25 08:20 AM |
| 2 | Women's advice to men here is to keep them guessing, single, guilt tripped until they're so old they'll get creepshamed anywayWell, let me think. It's a pretty frontal question. First off, money and status don't matter as much as the manosphere would have men believe. Not only that, but men themselves care more about a woman's finances more than they let on. The Mackenzie dude made a clip on this with scientifically backed data. Secondly, the issue of "personality being irrelevant" is also delusional, given that most of this "personality" is made of genetic factors. The more effortless some trait about you comes across… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/25 10:59 PM |
| 1 | Women are basically miny celebrities. Which is why the dating climate is badHaven't clicked that because I plan to play RDR2 soon and am interested in the story (idk anything about the story yet). Also, check the comments I made in this same reply-chain. Another dude had the same remark and I gave a more extensive answer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/25 10:46 PM |
| 1 | Women are basically miny celebrities. Which is why the dating climate is badThere is a gradient to it. Empathy isn't binary, like ones and zeroes. Both me and the respective person(s) test the waters at first to see if there is compatibility, using milder stuff, then as we realize that we are compatible in this way we gradually open up more. Like, of course my 67th conversation with a good partner will be much more emotionally charged and empathetic on both sides than, say, the first one or the second one, when we barely met and were checking to see if we match. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/25 10:43 PM |
| 2 | Women are basically miny celebrities. Which is why the dating climate is badI think you misunderstood "genuinely empathizing with" for basic civility and niceness which I offer everyone, unless they act in antisocial manners. As they show listening skills/kindness/openness or whatever during the interaction, I crank up my investment in them as well, because they're showing quality. If they act rude, dismissive, attack people for no reason or other sorts of socially corrosive behavior then I try to minimize the attention I give them and the time I spend with them. I don'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/25 10:25 PM |
| 0 | Women are basically miny celebrities. Which is why the dating climate is badYou sound a little older from your other comments, "simp" is slang used mostly by younger people (Gen Z). I would assume your circles are in similar age ranges to yours, so of course the term would be absent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/25 09:27 PM |
| 3 | Women's advice to men here is to keep them guessing, single, guilt tripped until they're so old they'll get creepshamed anywayBecause purple is a combination of two other colors: blue and red. I can have certain "red pilled" beliefs while maintaining other "blue pilled" beliefs. This is just one comment in a sea of comments I've made. So just becuse this specific line of dialogue from me strikes you as "red pilled", it doesn't mean aaaaaaaaaaaaall of my opinions are along this line of thinking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/25 09:18 PM |
| 1 | If men love women unconditionally, then the dickpocalypse will never happenRespect, actually. Hard to be a MSTOW and blue pilled at once, takes a lot of strength of character. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/25 08:16 PM |
| 5 | Women are basically miny celebrities. Which is why the dating climate is badYeah, they're called "healthy boundaries". Functional adults use them to protect themselves and navigate social life. You should give them a shot if you haven't yet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/25 08:06 PM |
| 5 | Women are basically miny celebrities. Which is why the dating climate is badWhen did I ever say that I want women to love me unconditionally? You're putting words in my mouth because I'm disagreeing with your slave mindset and it's making you uncomfortable. No one should ever love "unconditionally", because that's exactly how you end up in abusive relationships with people who take advantage of you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/25 08:04 PM |
| 5 | Women are basically miny celebrities. Which is why the dating climate is badYou're trying to weaponize the use of language against my argument, but I've been there and done that. Why empathize with people who refuse to empathize with you? It's that simple. When I see women who make genuine efforts to see what it's like on the other side of the fence, that's when I start being empathetic. When I see reddit-tier discourse going around, combined with typical gaslighting and strawmanning, I just take a step back. It's that simple. It's as you said. I'm not treating women (a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/25 07:58 PM |
| 12 | Women are basically miny celebrities. Which is why the dating climate is badI don't see women making these kinds of efforts for men. We just instantly get tossed into boxes based on credentials: incels, fuckboys, simps etc. This demand for empathy from men while they're stuck dealing with the psychological horror game that is trying to date women in 2025 is hilarious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/25 07:53 PM |
| 3 | Women are basically miny celebrities. Which is why the dating climate is badWhat's the point of being a mini-celebrity when they are repusled by the vast majority of men? Swarms of dudes they find mediocre aren't doing much for them, and the ones who make the cut and clear that high bar women have are much less likelier to commit, due to desirablity and the scarcity of their magnetic traits. Although I guess it can be pretty cool if all you're looking for is casual hookups with very attractive dudes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/25 07:47 PM |
| 3 | If men love women unconditionally, then the dickpocalypse will never happenOf course you would put up with anything, mister "mstow". Men will put up with anything when they're thirsty and lacking in SMV. The term you're looking for is "desperate", a word that isn't attached to any men with actual value and bargaining power in the market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/25 07:40 PM |
| 8 | Women and men behave exactly the same in dating, it’s just women get more opportunity to act cold and selfish so it’s thought to be “their nature”In regards to your first question, I think you're correct. The second is just a typical deflection. You know what I was trying to say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/25 10:19 AM |
| 64 | Women and men behave exactly the same in dating, it’s just women get more opportunity to act cold and selfish so it’s thought to be “their nature”Absolute cinema. Finally, a self-aware post on this sub. Of course it was always like this. The whole "Only men can truly love" thing was a meme all along. It's natural to be a "loverboy" when you can barely get a text back from a woman, or have like 2 talking stages per year. Please remember this aspect of life: The kindest and most loving person in the room is usually the most replaceable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/25 09:18 AM |
| 0 | Female bodies are respected more than male bodiesI agree. Tribalism has benefits and downsides. Insist on the benefits, regulate the downsides to achieve good social health... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/25 09:34 PM |
| 1 | Female bodies are respected more than male bodiesAd hominem... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/25 09:31 PM |
| 56 | Female bodies are respected more than male bodiesWomen are a lot more supportive and tribal than men are, which leads to them protecting and emboldening each other a lot more often. Men on the other hand are too competitive and disbanded, always looking to be the most impressive to women even at the cost of other dudes. Whatever you're talking about is just internet banter; women gather around and protect each other in these scenarios, when they insult men. But when it comes to men throwing banter at women, there's always a horde of white knig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/25 09:27 PM |
| 17 | Women's advice to men here is to keep them guessing, single, guilt tripped until they're so old they'll get creepshamed anywayBecause that's their whole script. It's simple. Men are struggling? Uhm, you see, it isn't gendered, everyone has these kinds of struggles, we just gotta be kind to people! Women are struggling? Bring in the cavalry and fuck the men, why have they done this to us?! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/25 08:32 PM |
| 1 | Men devalue themselves by being promiscuous/repressing female sexualityThe SMV of her partners is absolutely irrelevant, given that the second case you proposed (N=50) is a literal town bike. N=1 is the objectively superior one even if her one partner was a swamp goblin or a greek god. Ask any man. Also, promiscuity doesn't necessarily elicit disgust. It simply throws the woman all the way to the second end of the Madonna-Whore complex. Sure, it makes the dude commitment-repelled to find out you had a lot of bodies, but he is still likely to find you very appealing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/25 08:54 PM |
| 1 | Men devalue themselves by being promiscuous/repressing female sexualityTo address the point of why men generally shame female promiscuity, the reason is simple; it has nothing to do with them being "tainted" and other emotional buzzwords being used. It's just that unrestricted straight female sexuality leads to the top % of men accumulating all the attention, validation and sex from the majority of women, while the bottom percentile of guys starves harder and harder. The whole "boo women shouldn't be sluts boo" started as an attempt to equalize the situation and pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/25 08:41 PM |
| 7 | Q4M: Why do (some of) you think that society just happens to cater to women's needs now, and ignores men's needs?When privilege is all you've ever known, a leveled playing field seems unfair, or whatever the saying is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/25 04:48 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: Why do you misunderstand or malign well-intentioned dating advice?True. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/25 03:01 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: Why do you misunderstand or malign well-intentioned dating advice?"Work on yourself" is a blanket, useless term. I'm saying that "working on yourself" for a hideous guy involves becoming attractive first, THEN bothering with the behavioral gaps. Reread what I'd written there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/25 02:57 PM |
| 0 | Q4M: Why do (some of) you think that society just happens to cater to women's needs now, and ignores men's needs?Women aren't directly priviliged in any visible way. There is no particular law saying "women get this and that and that and that and fuck the men", outside of who-knows-what particular, specific DEI program that should be tweaked. However, there is a catch. Societies aren't actually monoliths, they are conglomerations of individuals, with each of these individuals having desires of their own. The average woman is simply more intrinsically desirable and valuable than the average man, which psych… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/25 02:46 PM |
| 18 | Is there a shortage of relationship material men as compared to women?The men they're attracted to won't put in the effort (because they either don't want to or don't have to), and the men they're not attracted to are the only ones willing to put in the work (because they lack the attractiveness, they try to make up for it somehow). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/25 11:29 AM |
| 3 | Working husbands and wives do roughly equal hours of laborYeah, you live it to be some qween's slave, I get it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/25 09:49 AM |
| 6 | Working husbands and wives do roughly equal hours of laborYeah bro we're all looking forward to becoming modern slaves in the household too, as if wageslaving wasn't enough already. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/25 09:43 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: Why do you misunderstand or malign well-intentioned dating advice?I'm not attacking anyone, I'm just trying to highlight a point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/25 09:35 AM |
| 4 | One of the biggest reasons for the discrepancy of sexualization and the argument over approach and effort is the 'education of sexiness'. Many men overlook this and simply believe women are genetically "blessed to be more attractive than men"; and that women put in no effort at all to make a move.Largely genetics but climbing the social ladder or developing social skills can help. It's always a positive to learn how to navigate the different types of people around you. Emotional intelligence is the bread and butter of high status. The better you are at deciphering and adapting to the archetypes around you, the likelier people are to enjoy your presence. That will gradually increase your status and women will notice, since status is equal to power and influence. Looks and emotional intell… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/25 11:45 PM |
| 6 | One of the biggest reasons for the discrepancy of sexualization and the argument over approach and effort is the 'education of sexiness'. Many men overlook this and simply believe women are genetically "blessed to be more attractive than men"; and that women put in no effort at all to make a move.I don't disagree that women are generally more passive. It's just a byproduct of the average woman being a lot more valuable than the average man, which allows for breathing room in terms of effort sometimes. I'm just making fun of low-SMV dudes who try to lump themselves together with high-status, good-looking ones, all under this umbrella term of "men", because I see many discussions like these. "Men" this and "men" that, but the difference in quality of social life between a genuinely attract… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/25 09:40 PM |
| 19 | One of the biggest reasons for the discrepancy of sexualization and the argument over approach and effort is the 'education of sexiness'. Many men overlook this and simply believe women are genetically "blessed to be more attractive than men"; and that women put in no effort at all to make a move.Average and subaverage looking men grossly overestimate how much in common they have with good looking, high-status men. This rhetoric of "women don't approach" and "women are so passive" is just delusional coping from unattractive men, especially in the modern era where women can literally just text men from a distance. "Could it be that I'm repulsive?... No, it's the women that are passive, they're waiting to be approached!". Sorry man. That's life. I've never had a single genuinely good-looki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/25 09:33 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Whats more radicalizing - actual dating experience or the manosphere?I agree that they're all dysfunctional and moronic in their own ways, but they happen to be the most popular ones. The red pill gets a lot of shit online due to being represented at large by people like this, but I had a good time browsing the redpill forums' sidebar and interacting with the community a bit. It's a shame because most of these guys, especially the older ones, are very mature and intelligent, with mostly reasonable takes on relationships, women and self-development. I think the sm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/25 09:12 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Why do you misunderstand or malign well-intentioned dating advice?And what's the alternative? Some insufferable nag who's gonna demand the world on a... first date? When we know literally nothing about each other? I'm not sure what your point is. But then again, I only see Americans being this obsessed and neurotic about "ou em gee who's gonna pay"; I don't see anyone being so overtly focused on this moronic topic where I live. Although, I must admit, I see where you're coming from, in a sense. If a chick is like "noo one has ever treated me this well" while a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/25 08:58 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Why do you misunderstand or malign well-intentioned dating advice?What a surprising, if not hilarious comment from a self-proclaimed "Blue Pill Man". Chief, there's a trillion factors that can go into whether women pay for their dates or not. Economic reasons, social pressures (that can exist or not depending on their environment), the mood they're currently in, whatever their girlfriends/online environment have told them about "what they should be expecting from a reaaaal high value man" and the list goes on and on. Any woman with even a modicum of self-aware… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/25 08:44 PM |
| 10 | Q4M: Why do you misunderstand or malign well-intentioned dating advice?It's still a place of privilege a lot of men don't get to experience. Certainly much better than being paywalled out of romance altogether by poor stats. If anything, you seem pretty mature and have probably made it through this hassle, so it wasn't that big of a deal in the end. It was fixable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/25 05:30 PM |
| 22 | Q4M: Why do you misunderstand or malign well-intentioned dating advice?The main reason dating advice is utterly irrelevant for unattractive people is because it teaches you how to navigate and manage people who are already into you from the start. A certain behavior here, a certain action here, bla bla bla, and you can escalate from just "having your foot in the door" to being settled cozily inside the "house". Dating advice is ABSOLUTELY useful for people who can get initial interest, but mess it up due to lack of awareness, low emotional intelligence etc. But to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/25 05:21 PM |
| 32 | Q4M: Whats more radicalizing - actual dating experience or the manosphere?The manosphere correctly identifies the effect (most men being unattractive to women), but most of its supporters believe in different causes. JP argues that it's because men aren't useful and competent enough, Andrew Tate argues that they aren't tough and dangerous enough, Fresh and Fit are sort of a mix on these two but much dumber and worse at expressing their ideas, the blackpillers argue that it's genetics and external circumstances that shape you into an undateable mess and the list goes o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/25 03:39 PM |
| 5 | Even though some autistic men strongly desire to be in a romantic relationship. If they are having zero success after a decade or two they should just give up to save the hearthache.I think you're both making good points and his arguments, in my opinion, don't necessarily work against yours. He's simply advocating for a pseudo-retreat from trying to actively date if life has constantly proven to you that you're undateable. It's not an unreasonable take. And it's not like it goes against your own argument, which is basically "do stuff, don't think about it and if the chance ever arises go for it". Your points actually combine pretty well with his: If you're undateable, foreg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/25 07:08 PM |
| – | I think a lot of people going forward have to just get over the idea of sex and relationshipsYou gut-punched the MSTOW's with that one, damn 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/25 01:47 PM |
| 2 | What’s the point of asking women for their opinions if you’re just going to dismiss them right away?I don't disagree. I didn't mean writing novels, just highlighting their own points better. And you're right, multiple paragraphs are useless if you cannot shrink your argument at all or you just diverge into stuff that had nothing to do with the question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/25 11:22 PM |
| 8 | What’s the point of asking women for their opinions if you’re just going to dismiss them right away?I try to do the same, but they need to flesh out their argument and get to writing a few lines of text instead of "I don't see it that way", otherwise I can't really put myself in their point of view. I also read texts multiple times on occasion when I'm exhausted, since this can lead to diagonal reading and info gets left out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/25 10:52 PM |
| 54 | What’s the point of asking women for their opinions if you’re just going to dismiss them right away?The word "debate" in the sub's title seems to be misleading to people. No one's actually looking to debate or learn anything new here, but instead reinforce pre-existing beliefs by finding people who agree with you and discarding anything else. Edit: To adress your question specifically, women do the same all the time. I get the most hilarious responses from woman-tagged responders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/25 10:39 PM |
| 3 | A significant amount of issues in dating arise from misandryShe ad-hominem'd me first, but since you saw "woman" in the flair you immediately jumped to her defense 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/25 03:08 PM |
| 3 | A significant amount of issues in dating arise from misandryWhere did I mention being upset at this dynamic? I'm just stating out a fact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/25 02:12 PM |
| 4 | A significant amount of issues in dating arise from misandryI get the point he's trying to make, but people and especially women will demonize you for having a sexuality as an unattractive men regardless. This doesn't apply to the men they're truly into, which is the dudes higher on the chain. Nobody chastizes hot guys for wanting sexual experiences, especially not the women who desire them. By design, mentally, sex is made to seem like the most disgusting activity on the planet when envisioned with unattractive people; conversely, it's also made to seem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/25 01:43 PM |
| 0 | A significant amount of issues in dating arise from misandryWhat are we even supposed to tell them? "Oh bro, don't dunk on women, that's nasty!! Not all women are like that!!" These guys are basement dwellers with no social lives anyway who slog around media platforms all day, they have nothing to lose. What will telling them off do? Nothing. Because there is nothing to leverage against them. Shame is ineffective against people who are at the bottom of the food chain. Also, they're not the only ones speaking for men. Plenty of simps relentlessly defendin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/25 12:38 PM |
| 2 | Dating got easier not harder as people are making it out to be.Easier for the attractive, harder for the unattractive. I think of it in capitalist terms, only extrapolated to dating. Kind of like "sexual capitalism", as opposed to a financial one. Globalization and easier access to options makes everything better for hot people, since they get to broadcast their attractiveness to more people than ever before, and everything gets worse for uglier ones, as they are more replaceable than ever in an evergrowing dating market. As someone else once said, "broadca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/25 05:02 PM |
| 12 | Men If You’re Struggling it’s Your Fault.Yeah, OP's post is pretty funny to me. I've met hordes of sociable, entertaining, outgoing dudes who were literal virgins and they just kept making friends (both male and female). The catch is that they kept making female friends and these women genuinely liked them and wanted to keep them around. Platonically. They weren't exactly attractive so good luck getting through the looks paywall 😂. Hey, at least their lives are pretty fun. I've come to believe that social success is a decent bastion ag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/25 08:23 PM |
| 1 | "Chad" is less likely to be misogynistic than a sexually inexperienced man: A study found that the more sexually experienced a man is, the more biased he is towards women.I did add the word "usually" there, my bad. Should've emboldened it. I am aware these kinds of situations like yours exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/25 06:52 PM |
| 3 | "Chad" is less likely to be misogynistic than a sexually inexperienced man: A study found that the more sexually experienced a man is, the more biased he is towards women.Whenever in doubt, please refer to my profile description. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/25 12:41 PM |
| 4 | "Chad" is less likely to be misogynistic than a sexually inexperienced man: A study found that the more sexually experienced a man is, the more biased he is towards women.Rationalize it however you want. It's irrelevant to me. I know that getting played can hurt but there is no need to pretend the guy isn't the one holding the keys to the castle in these situations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/25 11:03 AM |
| 27 | "Chad" is less likely to be misogynistic than a sexually inexperienced man: A study found that the more sexually experienced a man is, the more biased he is towards women.Hilarious. Men who can afford promiscuous lifestyles can certainly afford to be some woman's husband, in terms of attractiveness. They are usually not in relationships because they willingly choose not to commit to any of the women they're seeing casually. Women aren't "playing" them, THEY are playing the women 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/25 09:39 AM |
| 13 | "Chad" is less likely to be misogynistic than a sexually inexperienced man: A study found that the more sexually experienced a man is, the more biased he is towards women.It doesn't really matter what ugly men say about hot and experienced men. Women like them regardless of what subaverage losers think of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/25 09:32 AM |
| 17 | Is it true most guys would cheat given the opportunity?The biggest predictor of relationship infidelity is having multiple options and particularly more physically attractive options than your current partner. That Mackenzie-whatever dude made a good clip on this. That's just life, it's the paradox of choice. The more there is on the menu, the harder you'll find it to be satisfied with any given meal. The average man in a relationship might seem more loyal than the woman, but that's just because most men couldn't cheat on their partner anyway. It's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 08:45 AM |
| 11 | Men, how many times have you asked a woman out over the past 12 months?You can see the indicators of interest (or lack thereof) and that puts you in a very good position that spares you a lot of embarrassment. Some dudes out there have no clue what to look out for and they just ask out completely uninterested women, only to get brutally rejected. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/25 04:18 PM |
| 3 | Men, how many times have you asked a woman out over the past 12 months?Hell, I mean, respect. You know what you want and loneliness hasn't broken you to the degree of settling for someone you'll just tolerate. That's a very respectable position to be in, certainly more worthy of praise than some situations I've seen... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/25 04:14 PM |
| 5 | Men are finding out what happens when they bring nothing to the tableYep. It's more motivating to develop when you have other people helping you and doing their own shit alongside. Also, "work on yourself" is too broad of a notion. Broad enough to warrant a community that can help you understand the meaning of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/25 04:51 PM |
| 1 | Men are finding out what happens when they bring nothing to the tableI don't really care what you think about red pillers, I'm simply here to tell you what they tell their audience to do. Now, whether that audience follows the advice or not is up to them. You can't call certain useful advice bad just because it has unreceptive members in its fanbase. Every school of thought on god's green earth has slobs who won't stick to the gameplan for one reason or another. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/25 04:41 PM |
| 15 | Men are finding out what happens when they bring nothing to the tableIf anything, you just made an argument for the red pillers and their mentality. So men should up their money game, status and looks to be attractive to women, right? That's literally their entire selling point. You can't have "red pill sucks" and "make bread and look good or no one will date you" at the same time. They're pretty contradictory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/25 04:30 PM |
| 1 | As a single woman in my early 30s, are my standards realistically too high?My bad, I genuinely didn't see the age part 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 09:14 PM |
| 1 | Cold approaching is the answer to every man's problems when it comes to dating but most men don't want to put in the work it takes to get to the point of being able to do it.You're supposed to conclude nothing. It's a joke. I'm just laughing at this recent western/american tradition of approaching hundreds, thousands of women just to get a few dates. If I were a woman in a region where men had the mindset that they should be cold approaching "hundreds" of women just because, I wouldn't set foot outside of my residence ever again. You talk about empathy but you're effectively shoving hordes of delusional ugly men out there to make women even more afraid of men than b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 09:13 PM |
| 0 | Cold approaching is the answer to every man's problems when it comes to dating but most men don't want to put in the work it takes to get to the point of being able to do it.Don't you redditors ever get bored of attacking people's virginity whenever you can't respond to an argument? I've never once specified anything about how often I approach. That one's in the shadows for you. Also, I don't necessarily disagree with your second paragraph. It's better to believe that you can as opposed to believing that you can't, because one belief keeps you happy and motivated and the other one leads to insanity and psychosis, regardless of which might be true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 09:02 PM |
| 1 | As a single woman in my early 30s, are my standards realistically too high?The issue with this list is, ironically, that it's a completely normal one. Plenty of women have downright identical standards for their potential partners so these women are your competition for these types of men. Point here being that men who do meet these criteria often have a horde of women to choose from, and you don't sound like you have much setting you aside from the crowd. Except, you sound self-aware and polite? That's cool. It's not so common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 08:59 PM |
| 2 | Cold approaching is the answer to every man's problems when it comes to dating but most men don't want to put in the work it takes to get to the point of being able to do it.100 women? If I wanted to go to jail I could just rob a store and be done with it. Sounds like too much of a timewaste. Also also, men don't have make-up. Best you can do is clean up, but that won't make up for bad cranial structure. If your face is fucked, you can't do the magic powder tricks women can to cover that up without people assuming you like phallic objects. It's a lot easier to be motivated about caring for your face when there is an avalanche of things you can do to improve it as a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 08:49 PM |
| 21 | Cold approaching is the answer to every man's problems when it comes to dating but most men don't want to put in the work it takes to get to the point of being able to do it.Hilarious. Approaches like these never work if you don't have the looks. You were probably just some temporarily-embarrassed good-looking dude who didn't put in the minimum effort, then, you decided to start putting in that effort and voíla: women on a platter. If all it takes for women to become more receptive to you sexually/romantically is "dressing and cleaning up a bit", you were never an ugly dude in the first place. Just a lazy, unclean, yet still gifted man in the looks department. Edit:… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 08:26 PM |
| 8 | Should there be a male equivalent to a “girls girl?”I think the point of the post is that men tend to be a lot more combative towards each other even in their own friendships as a means to compete for attention and to, as the manosphere would say, "sharpen" each other for life. The gist of it is, of course, that men should indeed take a page out of women's playbook and lay the horn-smashing for another time, but it's hard to change the cultural norms around this, especially in more conservative regions. It's the reason so many men are downright m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 06:34 PM |
| 1 | No, you are not "unempathetic", Women's emotional expectations are just unreasonableNot much to say here and I agree. I also doubly agree that pushover dads send a terrible example of what boyfriend-girlfriend dynamics are supposed to look like to young men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 05:29 PM |
| -3 | No, you are not "unempathetic", Women's emotional expectations are just unreasonableThat's the whole point of dating a "meh" dude in the first place. The average man is under this impression that women are going to go 50/50 emotionally in relationships where they're effectively settling, but that is just not the case. The WHOLE, and I repeat, WHOLE point of dating a meh-looking dude as opposed to some gigantic handsome quarterback is that the "meh" one is a lot likelier to cave to your emotional demands and put more on the line in the relationship (once again, as opposed to the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 05:22 PM |
| 3 | Men need to accept that dating may not be on the cards for themThe most basic of social skills and neurotypicality are required as a man no matter what context: dating, work etc. That doesn't mean social skills are that important. It's still looks and status at the end of the day. Sociableness is just a broadcasting tower for traits you already possess. If you don't have "it", showing "it" to the world won't do much either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 09:17 AM |
| 4 | Men who were clear and consistent about not wanting kids are no morally different than sperm donors to me.Harrowing situation, but I'm genuinely curious what the actual counterplay is here for the guy? I suppose he hasn't recorded anything or has any clear proof he made these demands, and in a "no proof" scenario women kind of win in court by default, no? Like what is he even supposed to do? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/25 06:44 AM |
| 49 | A case study on why dating is absolutely horrible for men and all men should go MGTOWrelationship between old boomers goes south "all men should go MGTOW" never change, reddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/25 02:53 AM |
| 8 | Why is acting macho unattractive ?Most men are hardly the ones to count on when it comes to what women find attractive, especially run-of-the-mill normies. Particularly the younger ones are clueless as to what women are actually into. I remember acting very sociable and being talkative at parties a while ago, and I got a lot of shit from socially unaware normies that "broo, you're getting all the attention" when in reality the women wanted nothing to do with me romantically/sexually, it was just fun to interact platonically with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/25 12:08 PM |
| 8 | Silver divorces are more common among couples where women have health issues. Does your personal experience support this study's findings?If most couples go through horrible times and still stick together, I'm having a hard time guessing why this discussion is even taking place. Even when considering the numbers you put out yourself, most people ended up sticking to each other. Not only that, but even among the couples who DO break up after this kind of event happens, even among the times when it does happen, there could be underlying, different motives as to why they break up. So the numbers end up being even lower. Unfortunately… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/25 09:03 PM |
| 4 | Silver divorces are more common among couples where women have health issues. Does your personal experience support this study's findings?From what I've seen, divorce seems to be more common when the man loses his financial capabilities and also more likely when the woman loses her physical capabilities. But, then again, it's still overwhelmingly dependent on the specific circumstance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/25 08:07 PM |
| 5 | This sub's understanding of the 'average person' is flawed.You either live in a conservative region that's suppressing degeneracy on the lowkey through shaming and other stuff, or you and your friends are not as average as you'd think. You haven't specified anything about your age, either. Also, "me and my friend group did x y z" isn't indicative of reality. Look at the data, the studies, the empirical evidence, large scale social discoveries, because anyone can play the "I know a guy who" game and win on virtually any perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/25 01:59 AM |
| 0 | There is a selection effect at play which superficially bolsters red-pill theoriesIt's an offhanded comment, I must admit I wasn't addressing your point directly but talking about something tangential. If anything, I've read the post you quoted and agree with most of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/25 05:44 PM |
| -3 | There is a selection effect at play which superficially bolsters red-pill theoriesSubs like that make me realize that being a woman must really fucking suck. Lol. Imagine spending so much of your life chasing whoever the mightiest dude in the room is (who is, by any and all means, just a psychological replacement for a father). I think somewhere, deep down, a lot of women must acknowledge how hypocritical they are when they speak of men "chasing their mommy to baby them" with all that cognitive dissonance kicking on their door; it's literally just projection, since they spend… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/25 05:40 PM |
| 4 | Do you ever have the urge to push back against hatred directed at men who think their position in dating suck?Can men already get the memo that literally no one cares about their issues and to just stop complaining, like, in general? If you're an ugly, low-SMV, low-status man, your issues will only matter to your mother, if you're lucky to have her around. The reason women's issues are a lot more heard is because men are fucking DESPERATE to get their attention, so they try to fix any issues they may have; it's not about genuinely helping them, but gaining bargaining power and possibly attraction. So no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/25 09:41 AM |
| 6 | Male loneliness, gender equality, and positive masculinity are connected.I sadly and unfortunately agree with the sentiment. Let's hope it's at least war, instead of some modern inhalable bioweapon that can wipe you off the map just for stepping outside. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/25 08:07 PM |
| 12 | Male loneliness, gender equality, and positive masculinity are connected.I think men are too invested in a system that wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire. At that point, if you have to do all of this-and-that's just to get a modicum of return on investment from the world around you, I don't know what to say. "Be like this, and be like that, and be like that too!! Hustle and grind sunshine, never stop improoooving" is a type of messaging pandered towards men that I rarely, if ever, see being directed towards women. Maybe society itself as a whole acknowledges,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/25 07:25 PM |
| – | Since ageing is inevitable - why are women still being pushed to marry and have children young?Perfectly put, lmfao. To add onto this, of course men start making cash at a certain age. Providing a lifestyle is their only path towards any romantic success, so they desperately try to achieve financial prosperity because it's the final frontier; their only shot at "love": becoming an ATM 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/25 12:56 PM |
| 2 | CMV Women are overly dramatic about viable dating options.Yes they are. Sexual availability counts as availability. Now, sure, these guys are harder to lock down than ever, but at least women can enjoy casual sexual contact with them. Better than nothing, right? Even if these guys were loyal, they would commit to women in the top percentile and discard the mediocre masses altogether. At least, since they aren't exactly committed IRL, a lot of women can at least enjoy them casually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/25 04:39 PM |
| 10 | CMV Women are overly dramatic about viable dating options.Yeah, sharpness is a lot more important than provisional ability when it comes to impressing younger women. Being a provider starts mattering more as women get older and their fertility window start closing (someone needs to help provide for her kid so). If young dudes wanna act nice and docile around young women that's their business, it's just that it won't be rewarding in the slightest unless you look really good physically or are high status so your behavior doesn't even matter at that point… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/25 04:36 PM |
| 2 | CMV Women are overly dramatic about viable dating options.Yeah, I don't disagree that it's getting worse and worse for the lower classes of men as high SMV men become more and more available to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/25 04:30 PM |
| 19 | CMV Women are overly dramatic about viable dating options.I apologize for your experience, I don't usually hang around idiotic women who lack self-awareness. Any truly intelligent woman I've met hates the situation with a burning passion, regardless of their attractiveness. But then again, I've rarely ever met perceptive, self-aware people who aren't 2 steps away from nihilism, so there's that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/25 12:36 PM |
| 37 | CMV Women are overly dramatic about viable dating options.Things are obviously easier for women in developed regions with liberal social principles, but to be completely honest with you, everybody seems to be incredibly depressed about dating with the exception of highly-attractive men; they're basically living life on creative mode with all hacks enabled. I'm sure things must be harrowing for women too. If a guy is even decently attractive (looks and status wise), he's already sitting on a harem and like 5 situationships and FWBs simultaneously. At th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/25 11:14 AM |
| 13 | Highly promiscuous societies are often good for Low SMV menIf this were the case, social conservatism would have never even been CONSIDERED by anyone, ever in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 08:44 AM |
| 16 | The “average man” line of thought plays a sizeable role on my men are miserable"Most men are obese" brother we aren't all american and over 50 years of age. Relax. People's fitness is a lot better in other countries where food and drinks aren't spiked with all sorts of garbage. I live in Eastern Europe and obese men in their 20s are like finding gold in minecraft. Not that rare, but still preeeetty rare. I personally agree with OP's premise. A level of effort is important and no one who hasn't even tried basic looksmaxing and social skill development should be "taking thei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/25 08:10 PM |
| 10 | Q 4 BPers: Do women generally struggle with dating today?I'm here to rescue everyone who had to read this wall of text! Here is the TLDR! "The men I want don't want me and the men I don't want keep pestering me". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/25 06:46 PM |
| 4 | Since ageing is inevitable - why are women still being pushed to marry and have children young?Pure delusion. The only reason "wall" discussions even exist is for the manosphere to assess how attractive women are to men at certain age chokepoints. No one is discovering America again by saying "86 year old women are less attractive than 24 year old women". The whole point why these discussions exist is to compare MEN to WOMEN. Older men are also less attractive than younger men on average. Women just start settling for a garden-variety of reasons as they age, or they seek to extract whatev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 08:56 PM |
| 11 | I’m a man and I can see it. Why are women’s standards considered problematic and isnt it hypocritical for guys to complain about them ?Oh my god you keep making this point whenever I post any response like this. Don't you ever get bored? I keep saying that people are free to date whoever they want as long as they stop complaining about their WILLINGLY-MADE horrible choices. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 08:48 PM |
| 7 | Since ageing is inevitable - why are women still being pushed to marry and have children young?Why the fuck are you writing this poetry-style? LMFAO. Also, everyone dies one day. Technically everyone hits the wall at age 118 or some shit like that. 80 year old women are still infinitely more valuable than 80 year old men. Let's not even go into the average 30 year old woman vs the average 30 year old man (who is making 40-50k/year). I agree that a small subset of men becomes genuinely more attractive as they age, but as for the horde, most men just lose their youth and start looking like … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 08:42 PM |
| 7 | I’m a man and I can see it. Why are women’s standards considered problematic and isnt it hypocritical for guys to complain about them ?Well, you said yourself there is a good percentage of them. Thanks for proving my point. Also, the "I can change him" is often just rationalizing their existing attraction towards them. If the moment ever happens that they do "change them", they will quickly lose attraction and bounce to the next man of similar type. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 08:17 PM |
| 36 | Since ageing is inevitable - why are women still being pushed to marry and have children young?The wall is just manosphere cope. Bunch of low quality dudes thinking there is a karmic entity above, making sure things have to "equalize" at some point. "The wall" only exists when you compare older women to younger women, but other than that, the average man's value remains vastly below the average woman's at any point of their life. There is no real pressure on women to do anything at any age beyond a cluster of men complaining about it on the internet. It's just the screeching of bitter men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 08:12 PM |
| 11 | I’m a man and I can see it. Why are women’s standards considered problematic and isnt it hypocritical for guys to complain about them ?The issue is that women date guys with violent and overtly-masculine traits a lot more than they do other types of men. If anything, never in my entire life have I ever met a supervillain who didn't do at least very well with women. That's kind of the issue when it comes to women seeking safety/protection. Masculinity is the only thing that can protect you from [other men's] masculinity, but said masculinity can also bounce back against you and cause harm. Women largely avoid harmless and femini… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 07:56 PM |
| 4 | Men need more than women to "choose better"Can't disagree on the last paragraph. Developing the ability to anticipate and empathize with people's perception of life has both traumatized me and opened up all sorts of intellectual blackholes that torture me to this day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 11:40 AM |
| 3 | Men need more than women to "choose better"Yeah, the "more than sex" is largely the point of this conversation. If something as simple as escorts would have been able to solve men's loneliness, they would have been legalized and pushed to the masses long ago. Reproductive success (which is what men actually want) differs from just sex. It's about the ability to get sex consistently, using your own attractiveness that generates the feeling of reproductive success, not simply paying for sex or getting a pity-quickie. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 11:37 AM |
| 9 | Men need more than women to "choose better"At this point, you're basically advocating for voluntary celibacy until a viable option comes along, which is a much more respectable angle than OP's premise which is iust "choose better and lower your standards". I am with you on this one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 11:32 AM |
| 9 | Men need more than women to "choose better"Gay men aren't exactly the angle you want to go for here, since they pretty conclusively prove men have lower and more reasonable standards than women as a whole. I have literally never met a gay men who didn't end up hitting on me, and I am, to say the least, quite a "mirror-breaker". I do agree that men have a bigger pull towards casual relationship but the vast, vast majority of men cannot afford that kind of lifestyle with their looks and status, so they desperately look for commitment. I wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 11:28 AM |
| 3 | Men need more than women to "choose better"There is no reason to make the discussion about me, but I will entertain you. I would say highly intelligent, perceptive, talkative women. I don't dig the typical "quiet, shy, submissive" trope. Boring and overused. I think a better question for you to ask is what do the average man in a western country's standards for a woman look like. Because from what I've seen, they don't really look like anything. It basically seems like (if woman > proceed). Try to recall a woman you've met who genuinely,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 11:23 AM |
| 10 | Men need more than women to "choose better"Are you proposing men should actually increase their standards? The catch here is if they could, they would. Reality has a tendency not to comply sometimes, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 11:09 AM |
| 11 | Men need more than women to "choose better"Another delusion. A lot of women instinctively demonize the intent of unattractive men who approach them since it rationalizes their repulsion towards them. It's literally the "lookin' good, Susan" meme all over again. Attractive high-status man giving a compliment? He must want a long-term serious relationship, should give him a shot. Unattractive low-status man giving a compliment? He's clearly just looking to have sex and bail, what a disgusting creep. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 11:07 AM |
| 11 | Men need more than women to "choose better"The "good" women don't want them, so they go after whatever they can. Once again, at this point, "choose better" just means going for a different species. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 11:04 AM |
| 12 | Men need more than women to "choose better"Thanks for agreeing with me that men do, in fact, go for unattractive women literally all the time and disagreeing with OP. You're a real one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 10:38 AM |
| 30 | Men need more than women to "choose better"Very indicative case of projection here from a gynocentric-mentality-oriented individual. Most men are desperate for basically any kind of woman. Point me to a class of women that doesn't have a horde of men willing to date her. Fat women, disabled women, mentally deficient women; literally every class of those has options looking to commit. Men are begging for anything that even resembles a woman at this point. At this point, "choose better" when directed at men points to choosing a different s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 10:24 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Women should train the men they're dating to be a providerBingo. That's the whole point of settling for someone. Since your partner is so icky to look at, they might as well provide financial/emotional services. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/25 10:32 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Women should train the men they're dating to be a providerThey don't expect it from men they actually find attractive. Hope this helps. Have you tried following rules 1 and 2? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/25 10:25 AM |
| -5 | The patriarchy isn't realThen those are the countries feminism should be focusing on, as opposed to mild garbage like manspreading on public transport in the west. Where are the efforts to rescue these women from their terrible situations? Can someone point me to left leaning efforts that try to combat, say, islamic oppression? Or other kinds of oppression going on in certain asian regions? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/25 11:39 AM |
| – | The patriarchy isn't realWomen have no reason to care about the woes of irrelevant, unattractive men they had nothing to do with in the first place. Moreover, there is nothing they can do to help anyway. This creates a nasty conundrum, because women become hyperfixated on the success and level of well-being attractive men experience. This top percentile has such a qualitative experience of life that women can't help but be jealous and throw around words like "patriarchy" and "male privilege", unaware that they're referr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/25 11:36 AM |
| 2 | What is a high value woman?Yeah, my brain knows something I don't 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/25 07:57 AM |
| 2 | What is a high value woman?Those are the kinds of women I'm into. Maybe the language barrier has pulled a trick here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/25 03:42 PM |
| 1 | What is a high value woman?I really don't know what's up with my brain, but I keep falling for whatever woman is the most academically successful in any given environment. Happened in school, HS, college, at work, I don't really know what's going on here. The weird part is sometimes I wouldn't even know their academic situation, fall for them and, lo and behold, she was highly successful academically, as I would find out later. Lookswise they were fairly different, diverse facial shapes and ethnicities. The only commonali… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/25 03:01 PM |
| 9 | What's YOUR experience with dating apps?Absolutely hilarious. Just completely detached from reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/25 06:22 AM |
| 5 | Why Are Attractive Men Assumed to Be Worse Partners?Pure delusion but you gotta rationalize your belief somehow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/25 05:42 PM |
| 9 | Why Are Attractive Men Assumed to Be Worse Partners?Every woman of every body type has options. You are projecting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/25 05:24 PM |
| 28 | As a bi woman, dating women is way harder than dating men.I've talked with a number of gay male friends and some of them were quite unfortunate looking men. However, they all still had dating success, given that men's physical standards are just lower than women's overall. No matter how bad either of them looked, every single one of them had access to the respective dating market. Sometimes they would hit me with the "Man, I wish I was straight like you are so I would deal with women, not men. They are a lot more pleasant and nice and tolerant" and all… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/25 04:46 PM |
| 5 | "Lower your standards" is good advice for women but bad advice for menFrankly, I was less interested in the OP post and more in your comment specifically. The OP is just classic blackpilled complaining. I gave you a more condensed version of it. I can get behind not being able to get a girlfriend because you're unattractive, this can definitely happen; but being unable to even make male friends either is a sign of much deeper underlying issues (and I'm not denying genetic neurodivergency being possible here) given that straight men literally don't care about your … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 08:47 AM |
| 1 | Alpha males and beta males don't existAnd I don't disagree that efforts matter either. But I believe everyone has genetic/circumstantial ceilings in terms of what they can achieve, and that's alright. If whatever God is up there put us in identical situations where only genuine efforts and ambition would make the difference, I would have a much easier time being religious. Unfortunately, the randomness of it all makes it hard to take anything seriously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 08:42 AM |
| 2 | "Lower your standards" is good advice for women but bad advice for menWell, people give whatever advice worked for them, in their specific scenario. Throw in 2 or 3 "I know a guy who"s and their belief becomes even more reinforced. The simplest way to look at it is that "lower your standards" can't really apply for men with ground-level standards in the first place. You could argue something like "just go for burn victims or turbo-obese women", but that's just bad faith argumentation. At that point, if improooooving didn't do you any favors, it's wiser to just fin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 08:39 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Dating apps work perfectly fine and the way they should; there is no actual way to improve them.You're a woman using dating apps, things are fine for you in that regard. There is literally no such thing as a woman alive who can't get matches on apps. Plenty such situations among men, however. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 06:11 AM |
| 2 | Alpha males and beta males don't exist"The star athlete" you're visualizing is often a bonafide Chad, born into good genetics and impeccable circumstances that led to him becoming the quarterback. Little ugly 5'4 Billy at the back of the class can go ahead and "grind" his ass off and he will never reach that level of excellence, only achievable by simply being that guy. (Mods will strike this down but whatever I feel it's kinda funny). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 06:05 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Dating apps work perfectly fine and the way they should; there is no actual way to improve them.I think this is a cool concept, however it ultimately falls flat when you consider that people will just swipe on the top percent of attractive people regardless. You say that "swiping right will put you ahead in queue for the people you find attractive to see you faster", but said people are likely to be conventionally attractive anyway so others are going to like them regardless, tanking your place in that line. Remember that men will send likes to pretty much any women. Basically, if I get a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 06:01 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Dating apps work perfectly fine and the way they should; there is no actual way to improve them.Dating apps usage peaked in 2016? Any stats to back that up, or is that just when your prime was and now you're getting less matches? If anything, these days, even in my super conservative country pretty much every woman in her 20s and late teens has a dating app. The ones who don't have multiple social media platforms active at once. Also yeah I do agree that apps are mostly about hookup culture. And yes unlimited swipes are basically THE benefit of premium. Being shown to more people and getti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 05:49 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Dating apps work perfectly fine and the way they should; there is no actual way to improve them.😂 Like that meme, "I ain't got the heart to tell 'em". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 05:41 AM |
| 2 | Alpha males and beta males don't existYeah, the male hierarchy is just astrology for men. They keep regurgitating the same red pilled garbage they've been spouting for the past 10 years while men keep becoming more and more disposable to women. It's so hilarious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 04:31 AM |
| 60 | "Bar for men is in hell, most women just want a guy who treats them like a human being" is a hilarious lie.Short, succint, expressive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/25 07:21 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Dating apps work perfectly fine and the way they should; there is no actual way to improve them."Whisper" sounds like creep bait, women are going to get swarmed by hordes of undesirable men and leave the apps faster than you can blink. I remember Bumble had something like that (the compliments), but they are limited to 3 or something and you can only send a short one. And from what I've seen, women ignore the messages of unattractive men anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/25 06:43 PM |
| 1 | How important is physical fitness to you?Respectable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/25 02:42 PM |
| 29 | How important is physical fitness to you?Fitness obviously matters for health-related reasons, but the vast majority of people simply want sexy partners and use this aspect as a social shield. It's like, instead of saying "I like women with good-looking faces because they're hot", I could say "I like women with hot faces because symmetry and good facial shapes are indicators of genetic quality, making life much better for any future offspring!". It just seems dishonest. I'd much rather that people were more honest about elementary stuf… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/25 10:27 AM |
| 8 | Q4M: Why are you not hypergamous?"Women choosing the bear" is just chronically online internet retardation. No one IRL, man or woman, has eeeeever specified anything about this delusional discussion to me in reality. Also, no. It wasn't a response to that. I'm just pointing out that men have easier standards to meet than women do because they lack the leverage to demand more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/25 05:54 PM |
| 8 | Q4M: Why are you not hypergamous?What a hilarious question. High-status women do well with men and they certainly do better than lesser educated women. Don't let the screeching you see here and there on the internet tell you otherwise. Men will date "down" for the same reasons women date "down". That is, if the respective partner has something to make up for it. Most people are willing to tank a hit to their lifestyle and provide for someone IF said person can compensate: looks, fame, intellectual capital, emotional intelligenc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/25 05:37 PM |
| 5 | "Choose better" is an easy/bad advice we give people nowadaysMost "manipulators" don't hide their true self deliberately. They just sugarcoat themselves with basic social mannerisms, and they often do so subconsciously, because impressing people is objectively a lot more useful than not impressing them. So "putting up a positive show at first" ends up being an excellent social strategy. Good looking or high-status people often use this to their advantage (once again, subconsciously; it's an automatic mechanism). Any harrowing defects they may have get hid… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/25 04:10 PM |
| 5 | “You cant love someone until you love yourself” is a lie.A secret, third option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/25 09:02 PM |
| 5 | “You cant love someone until you love yourself” is a lie.If the average young woman swapped seats with the average young man, it would become a "try not to jump off a cliff" challenge. If anything, I don't try to convince anyone of anything in real life. I let people keep their eyes closed if it makes them happier, as I couldn't care less about proving anything to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/25 08:32 PM |
| 3 | “You cant love someone until you love yourself” is a lie.I agree with your take on this. However, loneliness can break certain men. You know, like, be thirsty enough, literally on the verge of death because of thirst, and even your own piss will start to seem appealing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/25 08:19 PM |
| 9 | “You cant love someone until you love yourself” is a lie.Men in 2025 will date anything, most of them don't have the leverage to demand much so whatever has a "female" attribute is enough. Weren't the "what do I want from my gf? (x) alive (optional)" memes viral at some point or something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/25 08:10 PM |
| 8 | “You cant love someone until you love yourself” is a lie.It's fine that they accept these guys' affection, I'm just pointing out how the gender flipped situation would result in women immediately walking out on mentally/socially deficient men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/25 06:30 PM |
| 2 | “You cant love someone until you love yourself” is a lie.He created a dicothomy by saying "I don't know if", presented two different options then pretended they are identical. I gave my opinion on which is correct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/25 05:02 PM |
| – | If TRP wasn’t accurate, blue pillers would not be trying to censor it so aggressivelyIn the 2000s the dating scene was wildly different. Of course once online dating and social media started popping up in the 2010s, women started figuring out how infinite their leverage is and what types of men they have access to, something which didn't exist before. Along with the fresh, new options and bigger nets so did their standards increase, making dating more and more inaccessible for the average young joe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/25 04:58 PM |
| 5 | “You cant love someone until you love yourself” is a lie.Well, given that these men seem to be dating women crippled by mental illnesses who likely also have issues with being functional, it's clearly the girlfriends who have very easy standards to meet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/25 04:49 PM |
| 12 | “You cant love someone until you love yourself” is a lie.You're preaching to the wrong crowd, this is a gynocentric bluepilled subreddit lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/25 04:47 PM |
| 6 | The Red Pills Critique of Hedonism: Understanding the RootsOne tells you to grind your 20s away in the gym and constantly work hard, the other promotes basic and low-effort self-care. I'm just saying that if elementary advice won't save you, going deeper into the cave won't save you either. You'll just become a, what was it called? BetaBux. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/25 07:21 PM |
| 2 | Actual good men dont envy scumbags and felons. Nor do they want the women these men attract.I don't recall disagreeing with being a good person. I simply deconstructed people's often-used argument that "good people deserve this and that", when most of them are predatory on the lowkey and still expect hand-outs for their efforts even when they claim otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/25 07:18 PM |
| 6 | The Red Pills Critique of Hedonism: Understanding the RootsThe red pill criticizes hedonism because they are under some sort of schizophrenic belief that the more suffering you willingly expose yourself to, the more the universe will smile in your face. It's why you see pathetic clowns like Hamza saying that "playing one hour of videogames per day sets you back in the race of men". Efforts matter, but not every battle is winnable. Sometimes, desperately trying to win the war will just prevent you from enjoying whatever is in front of you. Your crushes w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/25 05:57 PM |
| 12 | Actual good men dont envy scumbags and felons. Nor do they want the women these men attract.They have all the reasons in the world to envy the kind of people you mention, particularly when it comes to morally corrupt men, like serial killers, psychoapths, overtly-dominant men etc. These "good men" go through life trying their best to be morally virtuous and kind to others, only to look around and see all sorts of human filth get attention and affection just for being good looking or high-status. It goes against all the typical narratives of "good things come to those who wait" and "jus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/25 12:01 PM |
| – | Women can expect men to take responsibility for themselves and not be man haters.Anything that relates to dating ever is going to be majority male because men typically struggle with this due to difficulty meeting the standards. Women have an easier time dating and catering to men's low standards, so they're not participating in most places like these. Unless you're dealing with a dating community that artificially prevents men from entering, it's going to be primarily male 100% of the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/25 07:21 PM |
| – | Women can expect men to take responsibility for themselves and not be man haters.Then you have no reason to blame men for complaining about women either, because women are the "trees" for men in your forest analogy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/25 07:14 PM |
| – | Women can expect men to take responsibility for themselves and not be man haters.Women permanently criticize men all the time for all kinds of shit. Men do the same towards women. People like complaining because it gives them a feeling of catharsis. Although I do agree that things shouldn't get too visceral, like "I believe x group should burn in the lake of fire for doing a b c". As a side note, most people hate taking responsibility for anything, ever. Women, men, you name it. You hyperfocus on men due to personal reasons, but women are just as guilty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/25 06:14 PM |
| 1 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesOh, nice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 11:23 AM |
| 1 | Men typically have an external locus of control mindset when it comes to dating and generally underestimate the effectiveness of working on themselvesWhat is your height, ethnicity and state of hair? Just curious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 11:21 AM |
| 2 | If you’re upset that women dont ‘properly vet’ before the first date, you’ve never been on dates.I have seen guys berate women for talking about their bad first date experiences. According to this subreddit, women are suppose to give a guy a chance and not think the worse of men for no reason. Here's what the thing is: Yes, reddit as a whole is full of idiotic asocial dubious entities, who mark the days where they leave the house for non-work related events in a calendar. Multiply this by 100x on dating subreddits. Of course, a lot of the dudes here are gonna go "Ohhhh my lady but I am a go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/25 09:12 PM |
| – | What is FAIR compensation for SAHM after divorce???I don't disagree. Too much pessimism can ruin anyone's life. Unfortunately, I've had to interact with too many unhappy people throughout my life and my perspective over things may be warped by the other perspectives I've tried to empathize with. Everything I post should be taken with a grain of salt. English isn't my main language either and I'm not a good writer, thus some of my ideas may not be expressed as they are correctly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/25 02:48 PM |
| – | What is FAIR compensation for SAHM after divorce???I don't think you can just "walk away" from a non-prenup marriage without having to concede half of your stuff. Also, I'd rather think about "what ifs" than get obliterated in a divorce court. Although I do agree that you don't have to date a jobless woman. The men who do so often do it because they can't afford any better predicaments. Either they're unattractive, low-status, lack social skills etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/25 02:36 PM |
| – | What is FAIR compensation for SAHM after divorce???I think it depends. If the marriage was just a way for her to bail on going to work and stay home, then I'm not sure what to say. Plenty of women in their 20s are like "fuck it, I am a woman and I'm attractive enough to lock down some dude with a good job who can take care of me; fuck going to work, it's too exhausting". It's a good chunk of the reason wealthy men are even desirable in the first place: they are lifestyle-dispensers. And the wealthier the men, the less likely it is you're gonna h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/25 02:23 PM |
| 1 | “Needs Vs Wants” (The Truth of the Matter)How you came to that conclusion about me is beyond my scope. I condone intelligence, and sometimes intelligence proposes a different alternative than just slamming your head against the same wall repeatedly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/25 05:23 PM |
| 1 | “Needs Vs Wants” (The Truth of the Matter)First off, I am not on the "west is gonna collapse" crew. Average men are just going to find new copes to cope with their situation, like they always do. Strong of character, but unfortunately mediocre and unintelligent, which ultimately makes them perfect cogs for somebody else's machine. Secondly, just because you propose a solution, it doesn't mean the solution is true or has anything to do with reality. Self-hypnosis can only take you so far before you realize there is a massive power imbala… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/25 05:13 PM |
| 1 | “Needs Vs Wants” (The Truth of the Matter)You misunderstand the psychology behind the situation and I would gladly expand on this for about 15 paragraphs but let me exit my hangover first. I can't type out too much right now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/25 03:58 PM |
| 2 | “Needs Vs Wants” (The Truth of the Matter)I think you pointed it out correctly, but you're missing the point on a few things. Sex is a "want" and arguably the most important "want" from a bio-perspective. It never hits the "need" department because it'll never have the mandatory nature of things like food, water or oxygen. The issue here is not that men will somehow shut down and die of heart attacks if they don't get sexy stuff. The real issue is that when sexual capital becomes something virtually unachievable for large masses of men,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/25 03:46 PM |
| 27 | Feminism largely ignores women's part in shaping men and causing men mental issues.Men cause these issues to themselves by overestimating the importance of their behavior. They look at physically attractive/high-status men and the kind of shit they get away with, and because they've been indoctrinated to believe that "it's all about personality bro", they try to emulate these negative behaviors and it blows up in their face. In a better world with smarter men, they would reach the intelligent conclusion, which is: "Oh, it's not that they're attractive because they treat women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/25 01:33 PM |
| – | women often go to the all or nothing fallacy when Debating because compromise feels like losing to themHonestly it's pretty "smart". People who do this can avoid any sort of meaningful interaction about anything, ever. The "all or nothing" thingy can be applied to literally any discussion anyone is trying to have with you. A childish way to go about life but surprisingly effective when used correctly at times. "Oh Matt just do your homework man" "Huh?? I thought we were friends?? So you want me to become a workhorse for the oligarchs, just work myself to death in their shitty education systems, n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/25 10:33 PM |
| 2 | The Age Gap "Issue" Is a Modern InventionOh, so you refuse to read my entire parent comment, then you downvote me for telling you something objectively true. Sure, whatever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/25 10:21 PM |
| 0 | The Age Gap "Issue" Is a Modern InventionAging and becoming uglier is a universal human experience. You aren't "used and exploited" if people start treating you more indifferently by then, you are just part of the cycle of life. Not only will we gradually become invisible, we will also die one day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/25 10:17 PM |
| 5 | The Age Gap "Issue" Is a Modern InventionCorrect. It's also why they feature higher divorce rates. Women who date the wealthier older man don't do so because he is a "beautiful developed mature man" but because they're looking for his financial services. Men will jump off a cliff if it means not having to face reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/25 08:07 PM |
| 7 | The Age Gap "Issue" Is a Modern InventionPlease read the entire paragraph you quoted. Also, your second paragraph isn't out of this reality. Many such cases, even though not that location specifically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/25 07:36 PM |
| 1 | The Age Gap "Issue" Is a Modern InventionI don't think it's true "shit slinging" if I sling it at everyone. It would have sucked indeed if I was a hypocrite and started taking sides. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/25 06:30 PM |
| 9 | The Age Gap "Issue" Is a Modern InventionI don't even need to click the links to come to the correct conclusion: The poorer the country, the poorer the women and the likelier they are to date older, resourceful men out of necessity (BetaBux). Passport bros abuse this loophole consistently, always traveling to poorer countries to pay their way into a relationship. These women are trading sex for resources and shelter, so yes, you can call these situations predatory. Then again, just being left to starve to death in your third world shit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/25 06:24 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Males really need to do more for their SOs in hetero relationshipsIn that case, sure. No reason for the woman to do more housework than the man if they're both bringing in the bread. And viceversa. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/25 04:56 PM |
| 31 | The Age Gap "Issue" Is a Modern InventionHey, look, I don't disagree with the premise. Most older women are indeed bitter at younger women for having bigger bargaining power. Both of these groups forever have more leverage than the average man, but that's besides the point. Most 30+ men who ponder dating a younger chick are completely unable to, regardless. Take the average 30-40 something year old men: fatter, uglier, closer to balding than his younger self. Men must be under the influence of some cultural schizophrenia to believe wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/25 04:00 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Males really need to do more for their SOs in hetero relationshipsThere is a "guys that pay for everything" somewhere in the post, so I rolled with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/25 02:24 PM |
| – | CMV: Males really need to do more for their SOs in hetero relationshipsShe should try doing some "financial labor" before demanding any extra "emotional labor". Crazy levels of entitlement but you're this sub's local ragebaiter so no surprises there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/25 02:16 PM |
| – | Many people mistakenly confuse “bullshit radar” with a “fragile male ego” and lack of self-confidenceI'm not going to check the link because I couldn't care less about any sort of clickbait-y internet drama, but I'm gonna go against the grain here and agree with your premise. Everything in life makes sense and is the result of a logical process that preceeded it, and self-doubt is no exception. But self-doubt can also be completely justified. Self-confidence and self-doubt are largely the result of positive and negative feedback, whether someone likes it or not. It shouldn't even be said that t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/25 07:40 PM |
| -1 | Madonna/Whore: the male dual mating strategy, and how women can protect themselves from male resentmentIf you avoid all the men concerned with your sexual history, you're gonna kick yourself out of any potential qualitative relationships. Once again, I repeat that the dudes who DON'T care are the ones you should be careful about. You're giving malicious advice, in my opinion. It points the exact opposite way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 06:18 AM |
| 18 | Madonna/Whore: the male dual mating strategy, and how women can protect themselves from male resentment🤣 Reddit is so hilarious to me sometimes. These specimens are completely disconnected from reality at all times. Literally everyone looking for an actual, committed, monogamous relationship is going to care about what you did with yourself and your body beforehand. If anything, it's a red flag if they DON'T care 😂. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 06:10 AM |
| 1 | Too many guys connect attraction to displaying human decency.I agree. You've noticed that I have a hard time calming down my mental activity, so things like meditation, yoga or the like might be useful. I am a very paranoid person and I've been mentally stuck in survival mode since early on. I call them "mental models" because it has a nice ring to it, but you are a lot closer to reality when calling them "intuitive feels", since that's what they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/25 04:31 PM |
| 3 | Too many guys connect attraction to displaying human decency.I like to believe I am decent at creating mental models of other people. I just get them talking and gradually construct their internal world in my head. Sometimes I am wrong about my deductions and sometimes I deliberately point something out wrongly about them or about the conversation, in order to make any necessary tweaks or avoid predators. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/25 04:03 PM |
| 5 | People simply don't understand each other, and this impacts empathyNot sure what other men can do about that. "Shut them up" as in what? Men have no leverage over mysogynistic and depressed men, this second group is obsessed with getting women to like them. The opinions of other men are a distant second to their obsession. And women themselves can't really do anything either, so there's that. Fortunately, most of them are just sedated basement dwellers, so not much they can do except write angry words on the internet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/25 03:34 PM |
| 1 | Too many guys connect attraction to displaying human decency.Yeah I've noticed that people like expanding on the ideas they have. It makes their ideas seem more relevant to you, and thus it makes you more desirable to talk to because you make them feel seen. It's why instead of just going "uh huh good luck on the trip" I would just ask them for details or latch onto ideas they give and expand on them. It can get pretty exhausting since most people just wait for their turn when speaking, so when they find someone who's actually paying attention, internally… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/25 03:28 PM |
| 11 | Too many guys connect attraction to displaying human decency.Yeah I think everyone gets too hyperfocused on themselves and the way they're perceived. They forget to actually interact in any meaningful way with the person in front of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/25 06:38 AM |
| 8 | Too many guys connect attraction to displaying human decency.Also, most ugly people who get treated "badly" actually just get ignored, especially past highschool. If you're ignored, you don't get to say you're being treated "badly" as that is just neutral behavior. It's not like you're entitled to anyone's attention. If you don't have the looks for it, make an effort or idk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/25 06:29 AM |
| 3 | Would a world without "Red Pill" or lonely men be better?😂😂 "What if the most lucrative, weaponizable, guillible class of people were to suddenly disappear?" The infrastructure would quickly stop working, that's what. Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/25 05:58 PM |
| 11 | Vast Majority of Women are Landing Men Who Were In Romantic Exile, and They Know ItBrutal 😂 But facts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/25 04:47 PM |
| 5 | Vast Majority of Women are Landing Men Who Were In Romantic Exile, and They Know ItJust because you transition from one hell to another, it doesn't mean you've escaped. These guys would do anything to escape the loneliness of being undesirable men, but the things I witness happening in these "settler" type relationships are stuff I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. The bullying, the manipulation, the quarrels, the gaslighting. Absolutely disgusting. Just die alone at that point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/25 04:25 PM |
| – | Vast Majority of Women are Landing Men Who Were In Romantic Exile, and They Know ItEh, true. That's life. Bargaining power matters. If anything, you could flip the genders and see highly attractive men doing the same: dating around and getting ran through, then trying to find inexeprienced, gullible women for marriage so they have the control. Same shit. Also, yes, I think you've noticed already that women love nurturing these naive, hard-working types for the future marriage. "Make a beautiful garden bro!!" "Make the bank bro!!" "Work hard, keep grinding, be ambitious!!" "Cha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/25 04:16 PM |
| – | This subreddit doesn't appreciate real good men and nice guys.Brutal man. This is tragic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/25 08:43 AM |
| – | Feminists are just mad at TRP men for gaming the system that Feminism createdA true Alpha would never Bux. Alphas go from one to another. "AlphaBux" is just redpill schizophrenia. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 06:31 PM |
| – | Feminists are just mad at TRP men for gaming the system that Feminism createdFake Lambos and Rolex Selfies are just you signaling wealth. I didn't know you redpillers were signing up for Betabuxx Deluxe. I thought you're all about being Alphas? No wonder RP types end up in divorce courts when their spouses get tired of sucking off their resources, then taking half anyway. If wealth is the one thing you're being dated for, wealth is the one thing you'll also be left for 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 06:14 PM |
| – | Feminists are just mad at TRP men for gaming the system that Feminism createdI think women prefer whatever clusterfuck is going on than going back to the box. Even if I were a woman, I'd rather "take my chances competing for Chad" than be coerced into being some mediocre ugly loser's "forever wife". Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 05:47 PM |
| 6 | Most crimes are committed by men, by no gangster ever had difficulty finding women to share the spoils withYou've asked a good question that goes beyond the scope of my intelligence. Frankly, I don't know. And I don't necessarily blame women for being attracted to specimens like these. Powerful, influent, villainous men would take over entire nations and impregnate every woman with a pulse they could get their hands on in the past. So it's only natural that a number of women have a "soft-spot" for high value bad men, in spite of their morality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 05:08 PM |
| 2 | The meaning of the phrases “Just choose better” is much simpler and less terribleVery emotional response. No clue what you're trying to say. Peace. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 05:05 PM |
| 35 | Most crimes are committed by men, by no gangster ever had difficulty finding women to share the spoils withEh, women and high-status, powerful, evil men being coupled up has been a trope since the beginning of time. The truth is that value often precedes moral capacity in terms of attraction. There is a page on twitter called "mugshawties" or something and it's full of men dickriding criminal women and saying "oh i can fix her". Value comes first (hot or not), and only then does moral capacity get considered (good or bad). It's how attraction usually works. Our biological agendas couldn't care less a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 04:44 PM |
| 2 | The meaning of the phrases “Just choose better” is much simpler and less terribleI don't know why you're being deliberately obtuse. I said no one's saying it to you, in particular, but sometimes it gets said to other people and I provided an explanation. Has anything about my statement offended you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 04:33 PM |
| 4 | The meaning of the phrases “Just choose better” is much simpler and less terribleNo one's telling you to lower your standards. I don't care who you date or who you like. I just provided an explanation for what the phrase "choose better" means when people utter it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 04:02 PM |
| 3 | What are some negative habits/ traits that are commonly attributed to men that you actually feel is valid ?Not only do you not understand anything about the study you cited, but it's also locked behind a paywall. There's the event, then there's the cause behind the event. Not understanding the cause and just flexing the event makes you somewhat clueless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 03:57 PM |
| 1 | The meaning of the phrases “Just choose better” is much simpler and less terriblePeople are free to choose whoever they want. However, reality isn't obligated to comply with their wishes or desires for what these relationships should be like. Do you want something more exciting, but less stable? Or something more stable, but less exciting? It's all about how willing people are to make certain sacrifices, combined with how lucky they get. Who knows, maybe the unicorn is out there? Or maybe it isn't. Or maybe it is. Or maybe it isn't... etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 03:48 PM |
| 0 | What are some negative habits/ traits that are commonly attributed to men that you actually feel is valid ?There is literally nothing dangerous about online dating. The man poses no physical threat to you since you are away from each other, and depending on the platform has no clue where you even live or anything about what you do. Online dating also encompasses basic social media platforms like instagram or facebook, which practically everyone has at this point. It's never been easier to contact strangers, friends, people in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 03:17 PM |
| 1 | What are some negative habits/ traits that are commonly attributed to men that you actually feel is valid ?What happens on the incognito tab stays on the incognito tab. I ain't judging 🤷. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 03:14 PM |
| 1 | What are some negative habits/ traits that are commonly attributed to men that you actually feel is valid ?Hey, at least you're married. You may have missed out on the information, but now things seem to be fine, regardless. The thing with people is that they won't give up demands they don't have to give up. By and large, most men cannot afford to demand housewives, typical feminine services and the like due to socioeconomic factors, but women (with the massive bargaining power they possess these days) can often make all sorts of demands because they have the leverage to do so, which can involve "hey… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 02:41 PM |
| 2 | The meaning of the phrases “Just choose better” is much simpler and less terribleIt doesn't. It's really just "You aren't entitled to anything. Get on with the times and adapt". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 12:01 PM |
| 3 | What are some negative habits/ traits that are commonly attributed to men that you actually feel is valid ?Casual sex and even relationships were infinitely easier to acquire for men back then, given that the dating market wasn't globalized by social media and traveling is much easier these days (insta, facebook, tinder, bumble, twitter, reddit etc didn't exist back then, they barely had access to phone calls). This made their competition for women with other men much easier, since women had a smaller sample size to work with so the required criteria for being attractive was much smaller. Women weren… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 11:57 AM |
| 2 | What are some negative habits/ traits that are commonly attributed to men that you actually feel is valid ?I think it's because dads who manage to win custody battles tend to have to put A LOT on the table to outdo the mother, given how gynocentric the "who does the kid remain with" system is, so they end up being good fathers through a hefty, very selective system. Since most of the time the kid remains with the mother and women in this scenario have to meet a lot less criteria, the sample size of single mothers ends up being much bigger and there is a lot more room for failure (given the bigger num… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 11:47 AM |
| – | The meaning of the phrases “Just choose better” is much simpler and less terrible"Choose better" is just a heavily disguised version of "Lower your standards for attractiveness and date people who are actually into you". Idk what is so complicated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 10:39 AM |
| 7 | What are some negative habits/ traits that are commonly attributed to men that you actually feel is valid ?Is there some kind of "religion of dad" going on in red-pilled circles? It's like to you guys, if literally anything is wrong with a man, it HAS to be his mother's fault somehow. The dad must have either been absent or something else, right? It's always "people raised by single mothers" and never "people raised by single dads". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 07:48 AM |
| 11 | You can't complain about being lonely while failing to form/maintain social bonds.I don't know what to say about this. To be frank, I haven't consulted anything scientific on this much so take this with a grain of salt. I find it hard to believe that men don't "socialize", since bars, clubs, malls, gatherings, volunteering and the like are literally full to the brim with men. Men who go out with other men, entire hordes of them sometimes. Even on the street as I waddle about, most people I see are men. They're the ones having fun, shouting, doing wild shit when I'm going out,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/25 06:36 PM |
| 2 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...Once again, I agree. Boundaries are important and conditioning matters. Not penalizing bad behaviors will snowball into big disadvantages down the line. It's all about how your partner responds to bids. Can they compromise on certain things, do they even care about compromising, can you break up with them if they show gigantic redflags, these kinds of questions. Bargaining power matters and might be the most important thing, but the way it's used is also relevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/25 04:54 PM |
| 1 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...Absolutely agree. Good point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/25 09:30 AM |
| 6 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...I bitch often about many things. Helps maintain my sanity. Substances also help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/25 02:12 AM |
| 1 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...Gotta agree on this one 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/25 01:49 AM |
| 2 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...Strongly agree. I also find women like these episodically, most women I'm consistently around are grown-ups about these things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/25 01:48 AM |
| 2 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...I mean, I mostly agree. No one's gonna put in the effort for a partner they're not (or no longer) attracted to. It's an indirect way of pressuring you to end the relationship instead of having to do it themselves. It's cowardly and it isn't a gendered thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/25 01:47 AM |
| 3 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...Because that's life. Masculinity is one tough sonofabitch for most people to acquire, because it needs big efforts and sufferings to create itself. You can't be a "leader" or someone who "dominates" without passing through the ringer first. Efforts, hoops, jumps, etc. There is nothing about this that resembles "a bar in hell". Also, it gets more and more irrelevant as women need men less and less, so there is that. It's more lucrative in 2025 to just look good or be high-status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 07:25 PM |
| 7 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...Those are some pretty hefty standards that relate to a high level of masculinity. Dominate others, lead, don't submit to her or anyone else, have opinions about women that she's gonna like... throw in a standard for looks, and the bar starts to look pretty "heavenly", doesn't it? The man you've described is very rare and high in demand, because this isn't easy to achieve. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 07:14 PM |
| -1 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...Casual can lead to wanting more, especially for women. That's part of the point of this post. Sex is a much bigger investment for women in a psychological sense, so they often want the dude they banged casually to also commit. (added mention: yes of course this also happens the other way around sometimes) Also, this post isn't about purely casual relationships where no one gets invested and they're just having sexual fun. That's all fun and dandy and godspeed to everyone involved. I think you ne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 07:05 PM |
| 14 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...Most young women are in relationships, most young men are not. I don't know why you deliberately avoided the part related to young men. Their relationships aren't as "committed" as you think, and the men they're dating are also older than them, which puts younger men at a disadvantage. Also, yes, past 30 something most men get coupled, but that's because of women finally settling since they no longer have their youthful bargaining power, so now it's either "date the normie" or "welcome to cat-la… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 07:01 PM |
| 3 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...Well, yes. You agree with me. It's not "getting played" if no one catches feelings after a casual encounter, but it does count as "getting played" otherwise, since you've made an investment in someone who isn't going to return it back. Sometimes they play you, and sometimes you play yourself by lying to yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 06:52 PM |
| 4 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...I don't know, man. I don't actually take everything women say at face value. I have this really horrible trait of being perceptive, and checking to see whether their actions match their words. It's often babbling about "oh i just want a nice stable dude who is polite to waiters and loves dogs" then it's one villain after another that they go after. The catch here isn't that women find niceness attractive, it's that they want the men they're attracted to to be nice to them. It's a massive distinc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 06:25 PM |
| 12 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...Perfect addition. The more atttractive you are, the more effort people will put into their relationship with you, and viceversa. Someone's "avoidant partner" is someone else's "anxious partner". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 06:16 PM |
| 4 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...I think it's available in most semi-developed countries that aren't full on social-terrorism-misogyny oriented. People protect their high standards by associating themselves with said standards ("I AM the high standard"), sometimes at the cost of observable reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 06:09 PM |
| 1 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings..."So you hate waffles" the saga. I love reddit. You can date whoever you want, but there are things to consider, like any possible consequences as a result of overlooking certain things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 06:07 PM |
| 6 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...I agree that it's exhausting, but it's a useful skill to develop. Helps not just with dating, but academia as well, the workplace etc. Plenty of people are just looking for emotional labor, as opposed to actual advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 06:03 PM |
| 5 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...I blame the culture. Everyone and their mother is apparently "a wonderful amazing beautiful snowflake" so there's a bunch of overinflated egos running around, thinking they're entitled to the "creme de la creme". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 06:00 PM |
| 2 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...Men don't date solely for looks either. Your personality is literally part of your genetic make-up and is involved in the selection process. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 05:52 PM |
| 8 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...I've had to deal with emotional types my entire life. Men, women, kids, adults, you name it. I've learned early in teenagehood that there are ways to deal with people and their emotions that aren't straightforward or truthful. Emotionally charged people get very hurt when you strike exactly where the problem is and can become defensive or disengage outright. I always go about it in a roundabout way, and I don't always necessarily address the problem. It's complicated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 05:50 PM |
| 10 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...The harder people get shafted in life, the harder they have to cope. Everything about romantic/sexual dynamics is economical and is all there for those with the eyes to see. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 05:45 PM |
| 9 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...Then date men who demonstrate competence (whatever this word means is up to the individual). When you date solely based off looks, charisma or status, you aren't actually controlling for competence, and it might come to bite you back in the ass later, when you notice they can't even wash dishes or use a stove. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 05:43 PM |
| 16 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...The wording is fairly aggressive, but I don't disagree. It's basically the "lottery ticket scratching" stage of their lives. Like "who knows maybe I will get lucky and this absolute unit will somehow fall for me". Not all women do this, but those who do have a long and exhausting road ahead of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 05:38 PM |
| 4 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...Well-put. It seems they've created a similar conundrum for themselves compared to what average men also have to face. "The many battling for the few", that sort of thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 05:27 PM |
| 17 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...A harsh fact of life is that most people only see the people they are emotionally invested in as human. So, of course, to a lot of women, the only "relevant" men are the ones they find attractive (not to say men are any better, but still). If these specific dudes consistently treat them like second choices, they will get a negative opinion of not just them, but also extrapolate that to other men who've never done them any wrong. Biases are protective mechanisms, and sometimes they can be faulty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 05:25 PM |
| 1 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...Sorry to hear that. The way men present themselves can vary from one society to another. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 05:21 PM |
| 8 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...I agree. But I'm aware of when a conversation is emotional or rational and I engage accordingly. Even emotional conversations can tell you things about people if you play around their heightened emotional state correctly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 05:17 PM |
| 6 | "The bar is in hell" and other such sayings...Plenty of them, but I also live in an area with more masculine and attractive dudes. Almost everyone is perfumed up, has a haircut and dresses well. Their issue is either their genetic make-up in terms of looks or personality issues, since most of them are still as single as single gets. Also, I don't know how to refute your first point. I don't believe you have the bars separate, despite claiming so. Maybe you could expand on that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 05:16 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Confident, smart women intimidate malesY'all be calling anything confidence. Sometimes people are just loud, annoying and irritating lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 03:21 PM |
| 0 | Q4Men: how would you feel if your wife made these typically “male” comments/ posts online?Respectable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 04:18 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men: how would you feel if your wife made these typically “male” comments/ posts online?I agree that the phenomenon is more common in men, but regardless. Frankly, I am glad to be a straight man and not have to deal with this bullshit as often as y'all lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/25 08:49 PM |
| 8 | Q4Men: how would you feel if your wife made these typically “male” comments/ posts online?Break up. Simple, since it's obvious disrespect. Given that this post is truly about the gender-flipped situation, the advice remains the same. I think sometimes people need to take a step back and wonder to themselves why they put up with things like these. Low self-esteem? The belief that you won't ever find someone as attractive as your partner? The fear of loneliness? etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/25 06:50 PM |
| 3 | Guys Don’t Like Dating Apps and Instagram For Only One ReasonWhat profiles would you say capture interest most often in your area? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/25 09:09 PM |
| 4 | Guys Don’t Like Dating Apps and Instagram For Only One ReasonThe difference is the globalization of attention. You don't typically interact with as many people IRL as you can online, so the fishnet is wider. It's just more accesible. The bigger the fishnet, the bigger is the most valuable fish inside. And depending on your bargaining power, you can afford that massive fish (even if just casually). It's just basic economics. It's the functional equivalent of sexual capitalism, where the attractive get more and more attention, with things getting easier and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/25 05:15 PM |
| 5 | Guys Don’t Like Dating Apps and Instagram For Only One ReasonWell, if "you really have to elevate yourself above the average man to catch women's attention", what exactly surprises you about the average man when he considers dating apps a scam? It's a rough competition and it's only getting rougher as men keep adapting to it on all sides. It's no wonder most men are exhausted and quitting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/25 04:54 PM |
| 8 | Guys Don’t Like Dating Apps and Instagram For Only One ReasonYou and your friends must be avid followers of rules 1 and 2, or flexing wealth on your profiles which makes you seem more appealing as providers. I would assume you guys are in your 30s and dating women of either 20-30s; if you've accumulated resources, know how to flex them or at least look physically appealing, of course you're gonna get dates. It's especially telling that the women you're dating seem to pressure you into relationships early on, so I'm leaning towards well-displayed wealth in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/25 04:41 PM |
| 2 | Women don’t like being friends with guys who don’t want themHow did you manage to somehow blame the patriarchy for women's perception of men? lol. Also, women aren't seen purely as "objects". A lot of women who don't even look good but have fun and engaging personalities regularly get friend groups and men wanting to hang out with them for platonic reasons. Of course looking good matters, we are all physical objects to a degree, since we all have flesh and skins and bodies and all that worldly stuff. But pretending personality is irrelevant is just grass… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/25 06:24 PM |
| 4 | Apparently, young men are becoming redpilled because they cant be cry bullies.What a nonsensical post full of strawmen. There is literally nothing to even talk about. This whole wall of text can be summerized as "i heard a guy who said this, i know a guy who said that, why are all men like this, it's all their fault" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/25 09:08 AM |
| 6 | Q4Men: what does a society that prioritizes men do?It wasn't the only one, but it was the most important one to these respective societies/mentalities. Why do you think you keep hearing the statement "the nuclear family is the bedrock of civilization"? Especially these days, with more and more conservatism crawling out of the woodwork. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/25 09:45 PM |
| 15 | Q4Men: what does a society that prioritizes men do?Simply take a look at most patriarchies throughout history. Most of them featured an undercover contract between the society itself and its men. They called it "marriage", and it was a lot more ruthless to women back then. One would have you believe that marriages were a contract between the man and the woman, but that used to be false. It actually took place between the men and whoever set up and maintained these systems (the respective "powers that be" of the time). The woman herself was merel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/25 09:37 PM |
| 2 | For Men, Single Life Is the Solution—Not Something to FearWhat you're saying is very well-articulate, dandy and exotic, but you haven't made any actual proposal. It's just a word salad that boils down to "real meaning is found within", with no practical outline of what said meaning should be. You did mention communities, but all communities will do is gather together sad men to talk about their sad lives and engage in all sorts of whatevers like alcohol or "adventures" to distract themselves. It doesn't generate any real solution, it just makes sufferi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/25 04:07 PM |
| 10 | For Men, Single Life Is the Solution—Not Something to FearAn alternative "carrot on a stick" for men other than the woman is something civilizations have been trying to find for literal millenia with no success. Good luck with that. The alternative used to be "you will go to heaven if you behave well" but most people in civilized countries don't take religion too seriously anymore. If such a thing truly existed, it would be getting sold at every street-corner and there would be kilometric lines of men waiting in every place. Philosophers have been boxi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/25 03:14 PM |
| 14 | How true is the myth that conservative women cheat less than their liberal counterparts ?I've noticed something similar in my circles. The most conservative ones tend to be the biggest hypocrites, unaware of and exposed to impulses they perceive to be "above of" due to their political/social affiliations. Lack of awareness is exactly what opens them up to these mental/impulsive/emotional ambushes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/25 02:39 PM |
| 9 | There are 2 harsh truths that men and women have accept sooner or later.You're talking to delusional people. Don't even bother. They are the kind to watch 500 days of summer and start saying "weee it's all her fault!! Summer led this poor innocent man on!!". Accountability matters. Always make sure to ask people what their intentions with you are and check to see how their behavior matches that. If a dude tells you "omg baby ily so much ur the light of my world" but takes 15 hours to respond to a text and you keep pushing the relationship forward without drawing bou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/25 05:58 PM |
| 5 | Dating is 50% biology 50%social conditioning, and they mix together:The main difference between dating today and dating within the timeframe you mentioned is the globalization of social markets. Attractive people are a lot more aware of their attractiveness than at any point in history due to easy ways of exposure (social media, something commonplace today which literally didn't exist back then). These days most people in the west have phones, internet, something like facebook, instagram, and even dating apps (although these are rarer to find, I've seen many fol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/25 06:32 PM |
| 6 | Do you actually think life would be easier if you were a man in this age ?Men don't say "I wish I mattered to someone"? Men don't say "I want to be in a loving relationship"? I don't know what male-supervillain circles you frequent, but I recommend getting away from them, as they are not in any way representative of what the average men wants in terms of sex and romantic relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 06:48 AM |
| 10 | Do you actually think life would be easier if you were a man in this age ?Damn, the first half of your comment was so good and then you just had to get delusional about how men's desire for intimacy works. Although, I think you have a good overall understanding of the situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 06:33 AM |
| 2 | A lot of women underestimate the importance of their personality when it comes to attractionIf you look good enough physically, you can bypass reality itself and have endless privileges thrown at you all the time. It's why I believe looks and environment/location/family are the most important things in life (and those are either genetic or circumstance). That being said, there are some things the unluckier people can try before properly laying down. If you try whatever you can and still get fucked over, you can at least say you did whatever you could. Plenty of people like this, and I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 09:03 PM |
| 8 | A lot of women underestimate the importance of their personality when it comes to attractionFlirting is tough to learn, tbh. Simply socializing with others and exchanging chats about whatever random stuff is easier. I don't think there is any way to learn how to flirt, except hang around women and just get a feel for them subconsciously? lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 08:58 PM |
| 4 | A lot of women underestimate the importance of their personality when it comes to attractionTo a degree. There are people out there whose lives are simply not worth living, imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 08:56 PM |
| 3 | A lot of women underestimate the importance of their personality when it comes to attractionI absolutely agree and I've found this manifested IRL in my circles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 06:42 PM |
| 3 | A lot of women underestimate the importance of their personality when it comes to attractionYou are right, but there is no guarantee that your "looksmatches" will want anything to do with you, so prepare accordingly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 05:57 PM |
| 8 | A lot of women underestimate the importance of their personality when it comes to attractionCorrect. The same goes for anyone who isn't attractive enough to just coast by in life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 05:56 PM |
| 3 | A lot of women underestimate the importance of their personality when it comes to attractionNuance. You were not supposed to take that paragraph literally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 05:15 PM |
| 3 | A lot of women underestimate the importance of their personality when it comes to attractionGood point of view. Thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 03:16 PM |
| 3 | A lot of women underestimate the importance of their personality when it comes to attractionRespectable. I personally wouldn't have your strength of character to move over these feelings if they got too strong, or the intelligence to shapeshift them into something platonic. It's why I try not to get too close to women emotionally. I've encountered many emotionally intelligent women throughout my life who had me "by the balls" psychologically, and my crushes for them got unbearable as they kept displaying attractive traits over and over. I wasn't strong enough (like I suppose you are) t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 03:07 PM |
| 9 | A lot of women underestimate the importance of their personality when it comes to attractionI agree with the sentiment. When you don't interact with women IRL, you have no sense of a woman's personality. It's logical. So of course the grass-allergics (who are too afraid to even say hi to women) end up thinking "we men are visual we don't care about your personality". They're also the loudest since they're always either bitter, on the internet, or both. When you don't interact with any given group, you know nothing about them. You get your info from third party sources, like forums or o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 03:00 PM |
| 2 | A lot of women underestimate the importance of their personality when it comes to attractionI didn't disagree with that concept. But men don't have to "set aside" any feelings if they are too strong, if not unbearable. Sometimes, instead of gritting your teeth and meekly waiting for them to like you back one day (while your mental health is getting worse), maybe a better course of action would be to cut contact (either gradually or however else). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 02:49 PM |
| 3 | A lot of women underestimate the importance of their personality when it comes to attractionI don't get how her view of you is correlated to your view of her. It's entirely possible that she sees you as a friend and you can't help but want something romantic from her, like a relationship. Also, very patronizing use of the word "limerence" you got there. It's not limerence if you are genuinely attracted to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 02:42 PM |
| 21 | A lot of women underestimate the importance of their personality when it comes to attractionIt's an everything-pill. I agree with soft looksmaxxing or whatever it's called (healthy body fat, good smell, hygiene), but it gets to a point where you need to look yourself in the mirror and say "Oh my fucking god, I suck at interacting with others. Maybe I should socialize more". Leave the gyms and the looks and the whatever else's and go out with people and make exepriences. It will sharpen your social senses, develop your subconscious understanding of others and you also get to do stuff to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 02:33 PM |
| 2 | A lot of women underestimate the importance of their personality when it comes to attractionYes. This has also happened to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 02:22 PM |
| 41 | A lot of women underestimate the importance of their personality when it comes to attractionIt's easy to say that personality doesn't matter as someone who only leaves the house to gym/work and back (which is the average hardcore redpiller). People who interact with other people on a semi-consistent basis cannot maintain the delusion that personality isn't at least relevant. A good chunk of our personalities are genetic so it would make perfect sense that they're also included in the sexual selection process. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 02:01 PM |
| 17 | A lot of women underestimate the importance of their personality when it comes to attractionRegarding your first point, I don't think "PPD men" is written on my ID or any official paperwork. I am myself. I don't identify with what the average user here thinks. Also, the second point is good. I certainly agree on that. It's a loss, but such actions need to be taken for the sake of mental health sometimes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 01:33 PM |
| 4 | A lot of women underestimate the importance of their personality when it comes to attractionIt's about being honest with yourself. If you've assessed that the feelings are platonic, then it's perfectly fine. But if they aren't, and you ARE into the woman romantically, then thread carefully. Your mental headspace can become a terrifying place if you don't truly acknowledge what's going on in there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 01:28 PM |
| 8 | A lot of women underestimate the importance of their personality when it comes to attractionI agree that there's predators and genuine assholes out there. It's also hard to distinguish WHY someone is interested in you, which makes it hard to feel safe/secure in your friendships with men, as a woman. I was simply giving some insight into what I see happens generally (not all the time, but generally). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 01:26 PM |
| 10 | A lot of women underestimate the importance of their personality when it comes to attractionGreat answer methinks. Respectable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 01:25 PM |
| 9 | A lot of women underestimate the importance of their personality when it comes to attractionI agree. It's why I think being an attractive woman with a great personality often works against you when it comes to making friends, especially male. They won't be able to help it but become romantically interested in you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 01:24 PM |
| – | If women are hypergamous, does this mean that social status is more important that everything else?True. Peterson is just coping hard since he also has one of these BetaBux™ universities, and he needs to keep the delusional low quality men running on the capitalist treadmill to make the cash for himself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/24 10:37 AM |
| – | Most men are basically what Esther Vilar called 'The Manipulated Man'.You sound pissed about something. Hopefully your crush won't leave you on delivered for much longer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/24 12:49 PM |
| – | Most men are basically what Esther Vilar called 'The Manipulated Man'.What does that even have to do with anything? Brother, you're on a subreddit about dating debates, of course people talk about male/female dynamics around here. Are we supposed to be discussing The Powers That Be and the CEO's death and Elite Agendas on here or what? Let people discuss related shit, lmfao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/24 12:31 PM |
| 1 | Men and loveVery arbitrary distinction. So if I build something together with someone and we're on good terms, that makes us romantically involved? I don't think so. Maybe it's your personal view of the world that close friends are somehow separated from each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 01:10 PM |
| -1 | Men and loveIt's not "love from the first sight", it's the bond created over time and shared experience when you know your partner well, you accept them and you can prioritize their well-being over yours when it is needed. How is this any different from platonic love? You seem to be implying that the only difference between something romantic and something friendly is the presence of physical intimacy. I mean, if that's what you're implying, then I kinda agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 10:04 AM |
| 7 | Q4A: How is the Gen Z social and dating experience?Brother, it's 2024. Gen Z literally don't give a shit about clubs. It's all about bars and other types of gatherings that don't involve shit like dancing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 09:13 AM |
| 3 | Expecting for men to pay for your first date sets a bad precedent for the relationshipRespectable ideology as long as you made the efforts you could within reasonable means. If you've groomed properly, socialized well, improved your prospects, took care of yourselfand you're still not getting any, then it might be time to call it quits and relax. The reason this "calling it quits" thing is healthy after a certain point is because it prevents men from going full schizo into dark triad copes and "deep redpill secrets" (sugarcoated schizophrenia about how women love getting treated … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 03:12 PM |
| 3 | Expecting for men to pay for your first date sets a bad precedent for the relationshipSure, but "elevate" within means. I am of the opinion that your genetics kinda softlock your dating potential, even though it's largely possible to hit that limit with efforts. Pretending like life is a videogame where all you need to do to beat the big bad final boss is grind and work are delusional. There are plenty of generic, truthful quotes on the topic. Otherwise, yeah, I agree with the sentiment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 01:55 PM |
| 1 | Expecting for men to pay for your first date sets a bad precedent for the relationshipSometimes that's just life, especially as a man. Most men are downright worthless and easily replacable in women's eyes, so to participate in this uphill battle they often have to make compromises by compensating to get any access to love/romance/reproductive success/affection etc. It can be money, it can be leveraging your status, it can be emotional pampering and pseudo-therapeutic services. It can be many things, and it depends on what the specific demand from the specific date is. The realit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 01:44 PM |
| -1 | Caring more about the gender of the person than the person‘s behavior is a form of sexism.There are certainly patterns to the ways men and women behave, and if you throw in being attractive/unattractive to the mix things become a lot more easy to understand. So no, no one behaves in exactly the same way as someone else in their group, but tendencies and patterns exist for those wise enough to see them in whatever kind of group: unatttactive men, attractive women, unattractive women, attractive men etc. Biases were necessary for us to survive in nature and they still carry some level … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/24 01:33 PM |
| 6 | Telling women that they’re not entitled to protection or human decency shows a sense of entitlement.So vulnerable to any sort of criticism. On a literal debate subreddit. "You refuse to agree with women all the time, that's why they don't like you!! Now agree with them or I'll be forced to call reddit mysogynistic!!" Lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 02:44 PM |
| 4 | Telling women that they’re not entitled to protection or human decency shows a sense of entitlement."The female doesn't want to engage in intercourse with me and thus she is not deserving of anything ever" quoted from my response. I don't think the average PPD user is like this, to be frank. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 01:21 PM |
| 8 | Telling women that they’re not entitled to protection or human decency shows a sense of entitlement.You see, my problem with your post is that you're insisting on a very blown-out-of-proportion strawman. These hypothetical men you are bringing up seem like bottom-of-the-barrel, schizophrenic fedora wearers. "The female doesn't want to engage in intercourse with me and thus she is not deserving of anything ever". Good luck finding a dude with an IQ above 85 thinking of anything like this. My point being, this is a free society, with free people who are largely free to do whatever they want, as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 01:13 PM |
| 11 | Telling women that they’re not entitled to protection or human decency shows a sense of entitlement.I am willing to die for people who are also willing to die for me. The average woman wouldn't piss on the average man if he was on fire. Don't try to pretend like there is any expectation on women to jump in and physically protect men from threats the same way it goes in reverse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 12:58 PM |
| 17 | Women are indifferent to Most menI agree. Most people call themselves "kind and good-hearted", but they're largely referring to the behaviours they display towards close friends, family and whoever they're attracted to. The overwhelming majority of people outside of these metrics barely register as human to the average person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 07:50 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The "be a man's peace" request is a red flag"Women shouldn't tolerate abuse in relationships" is a pedestrian take, in my opinion. I don't know why something like this should even be debated, or worthy of a post. Is it because of the manosphere influence on reddit, though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 04:38 PM |
| – | CMV: The "be a man's peace" request is a red flagThere is nothing to "agree" or "disagree" with here. Once again, this is a pedestrian take. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 03:09 PM |
| – | CMV: The "be a man's peace" request is a red flagWelcome back, daily bait post. What a pedestrian take. "Women should have a say in their relationships". Wow. Absolutely amazing. Next you're gonna tell me people shouldn't be rude to each other, no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 03:04 PM |
| – | Why do women compliment each other even when it's obvious the reality is different?Such an incredibly selfish point of view, especially if it's something generally fixable, like being fat. "There is nothing to be gained about insulting someone for their looks" - for you. Someone with a fixable defect will have much to gain from being told about a facet of their looks that could be improved on. . "You're so pretty, I love the way you do your eye makeup." You are being an asshole. Keep it real and tell her what she could do to fix herself up a bit and increase her chances. What'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/24 09:23 PM |
| 4 | Men becoming even better, as women suggest, won't solve muchHe's objectively right about the way traits work. All I can sort of disagree with is the mumbo jumbo in the last few lines where he's pretending like women don't also put in effort to impress attractive men (which is delusional). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/24 07:55 AM |
| 0 | If you are a smart, hard-working, and kind man, that didn't receive much attention or support from women growing up, you should start a business to protect yourself from exploitative women“When looking for a life partner, my advice to women is date all of them: the bad boys, the cool boys, the commitment-phobic boys, the crazy boys. But do not marry them. The things that make the bad boys sexy do not make them good husbands. When it comes time to settle down, find someone who wants an equal partner. Someone who thinks women should be smart, opinionated and ambitious. Someone who values fairness and expects or, even better, wants to do his share in the home. These men exist and, t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/24 12:42 PM |
| 0 | Men have been misblamed for the overturning of Roe v Wade; the true culprit is religious conservatives, and it's time to stop saddling liberal-minded men with collective guilt and enabling conservative women to enjoy unmerited collective innocenceWhen slavery was legal (outside of prisons) in the US, some slaves who were light skinned, obedient, helpful, and/or "civilized" enough were able to work in the house and gain privileges the field slaves didn't have. They could often dress like, act like, and perhaps even convince themselves, to a certain extent, that they were "equal" to white employees. But in the end, they were still slaves. Genuinely sorry to tell you, but this has absolutely nothing to do with the post. Equating women's cur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 07:15 PM |
| 3 | Men have been misblamed for the overturning of Roe v Wade; the true culprit is religious conservatives, and it's time to stop saddling liberal-minded men with collective guilt and enabling conservative women to enjoy unmerited collective innocenceBonus add, what should they do about the bunch of women who voted for Trump? Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 06:23 PM |
| 4 | Why do you personally hate or dislike The Red Pill?I think your lack of experience when it comes to dating coupled with the arrogance of thinking your singular, unique experience means anything in a general sense does affect your reasoning when it comes to the topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 12:18 PM |
| 5 | Why do you personally hate or dislike The Red Pill?convincing closeted incels to touch grass technically I have never been on a first date and have an n count of 1. We all really appreciate the intent, but you don''t have the credentials to teach anyone about anything. You've never even dated, and you think that being in a relationship somehow places you in a position of authority and intelligence about this topic. Spoiler: it doesn't. Sticking to the matrix themes, I am the oracle. Sure, or maybe one of the dudes blindly hitting the keyboards a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 11:18 AM |
| 0 | Why is it when right leaning men talk about personal responsibility they throw that thinking away when a woman is pregnant?You are trying to make a general argument while using a particular, unrelated situation. Also, men who abandon their children at birth are often vile enough to make it clear they would do this before the kid is born. It's up to the woman whether she decides to see the red flags or not. It's no one's fault a number of women are actively attracted to villains. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 10:57 AM |
| 1 | Why do you personally hate or dislike The Red Pill?If you can tell a weakness like it's NBD, it's probably not that bad in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 10:29 AM |
| 1 | Why do you personally hate or dislike The Red Pill?I agree. I was promoting being vulnerable to family or other trusted close figures, not the women you're trying to date. Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 10:18 AM |
| -3 | Why do you personally hate or dislike The Red Pill?He's a 6'2 good looking powerlifter who could probably kill the average dude in one hit. With that level of masculinity, I'm sure his partner can tolerate a few tears here and there. It would certainly not be the case for the average dude and his low levels of masculinity. If he weren't a strong lifter, I am not so sure his partner would have tolerated the moments of weakness. It would have made him seem too weak. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 09:00 AM |
| 3 | Why do you personally hate or dislike The Red Pill?"Married to HS sweetheart" and 31, dawg what do you have to do with this sub 🤣 Go and enjoy your life. Or are you here to see stuff for your kids' sake in the future or something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 08:37 AM |
| 3 | Why do you personally hate or dislike The Red Pill?You can't be serious. There is no way you're this disconnected from reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 08:21 AM |
| -13 | Why do you personally hate or dislike The Red Pill?it's masculine to be emotional and vulnerable. Objectively wrong, and it's downright suicidal advice for young men looking to date women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 07:57 AM |
| 1 | Men higher in beta traits are preferred by most womenI agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/24 10:12 PM |
| 6 | Men higher in beta traits are preferred by most womenYou need to understand there is a distinction when it comes to women's in-group. Not every woman is the same, and there is an especially massive chasm in standards between younger women and older women. YW typically go for "alpha" traits alot more often, while OW typically go for "beta" traits (I'm internally vomiting just typing these words, but they are for references' sake). Younger women are still in the first stage of the dual mating thing, where the genetic material of the man is of much h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/24 06:13 PM |
| 4 | 4B isn’t a movement: it’s a group therapy session"liberal men have a lot more sex than conservative men" and other lies people tell themselves to fall asleep at night. Do you think a lot of women "coincidentally" keep encountering conservatives when dating? There is a horde of liberal men, but they're not getting any because they tend to be mediocre in attractiveness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/24 11:17 AM |
| – | Firsthand experience learning looks aren't shit.If you're attractive, some people may get intimidated by extended eye contact with you. If you enjoy eye contact, make sure to relax your eyes when doing so to increase people's comfort level. Also, don't hyperfixate on one spot, move the eyeball around a bit. I have a weird thing of initially making people think positive of me, and lose interest fast. I kinda struggle with boundaries too. Same, actually. In my case, I am almost sure it's because I give people attention and know how to make them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/24 03:34 PM |
| – | Firsthand experience learning looks aren't shit.You don't sound like a bad person, so chill on the doomer mindset. Instead of improving your looks, try to just hang out with people, even if it may seem painful. Work on your listening skills and your active interaction skills. Ask people questions about themselves, keep your eyes relaxed, don't be too intrusive about stuff they may not want to talk about, give people space, that kind of stuff. It's horrifying to try and do this but it's your only way out of this situation. Fortunately, there a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/24 03:17 PM |
| – | Firsthand experience learning looks aren't shit.I'm gonna go against the grain here and agree with you for the most part. Looks matter, but if you're mentally stunted or neurodivergent and incapable of picking up on social cues, then social life will be pretty tough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/24 03:07 PM |
| 6 | Sex is not a virtue. A man shouldn’t complain about the self improvement or the requirements/needed to have sex. Instead a man should solely focus on attaining/obtaining sex inherently and for its own sake.I just KNOW that enter button hates to see you coming. Also, yes. I think you got it. Sex isn't a virtue and nature has no interest in our concept of morality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/24 12:37 PM |
| 1 | Sex is not a virtue. A man shouldn’t complain about the self improvement or the requirements/needed to have sex. Instead a man should solely focus on attaining/obtaining sex inherently and for its own sake.This is a time of enlightenment for men when it comes to attracting women. Everything they've been told when it comes to just being "nice, decent, caring, willing to give" and other discourses don't apply to an environment where women are free to choose, as opposed to being oppressed. The singular reason these things "used to apply" is because they actually didn't. Ever. At no point in history. Women were simply denied the opportunity to choose, and were coerced into going for "providers", not o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/24 12:10 PM |
| 14 | Men; if you were a woman, would you be a trad wife, or would you aim to be a “modern woman”.Insanely schizophrenic take. I would have taken your post apart bit by bit, but you are so incredibly detached from reality that I don't think it's worth it. Touch grass, I guess? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/24 07:02 PM |
| 62 | Men; if you were a woman, would you be a trad wife, or would you aim to be a “modern woman”.I would rather end up alone and complaining about WAATGM on the internet, but with financial security and stability, rather than take a coinflip and hope the second father I'm marrying won't kill me in my own home because he got drunk and angry one day. When you look at the worst/best case scenario of either outcome, "modern" wins out the opportunity cost by landslide. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/24 12:02 PM |
| -1 | Men dont love harder-Men confuse love and lust. This shows their absolute inability to love if they cant even differentiate it. Apparently women are incapable of feeling lust, and all they ever feel is love. Or so this poster thinks. When you're into the tough, assertive, tall dude at work, it's probably not entirely because of "love". -Men's "love" is conditional on the provision of sex. I'm sure you would deeply enjoy a relationship with a man you're desperately attracted to that wouldn't get into bed with you fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/24 11:49 AM |
| 65 | Men ignore conventionally unattractive women (they aren't even on their radar), so they assume that all women are privileged in datingThis is true. Also, the whole "men using them for sex" thing is just the "looking good, susan" meme all over again. Hot dude approaching me? He must want a committed long term relationship. Ugly dude approaching me? Ew, he's clearly only looking to have sex. Your intent is largely determined by your attractiveness, so they can gaslight themselves into thinking that you're the issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/24 07:58 AM |
| 2 | A vast majority of behaviours that give women the ick are things men would’t be doing if they did the basic work on themselves1 Corinthians 11:2-16 “...Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman…”, “For man was not made from woman, but woman from man...” 1 Corinthians 14:26-40 “The women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.” Ephesians 5:21-33 “Wives submit to your own husbands as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/24 03:28 PM |
| 8 | A vast majority of behaviours that give women the ick are things men would’t be doing if they did the basic work on themselvesIt's human nature to want it all. I'm sure that if the roles were reversed men would do the same thing. Correct. Nothing I disagree with. If you're a dude, all I'd have to say is... Good luck, I guess? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/24 03:10 PM |
| 1 | A vast majority of behaviours that give women the ick are things men would’t be doing if they did the basic work on themselvesBecause that's exactly what would happen. It's not so difficult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/24 03:08 PM |
| 2 | A vast majority of behaviours that give women the ick are things men would’t be doing if they did the basic work on themselvesSince you've brought up this political connection between the RP and Conservatives, I just can't help but wonder what Jesus himself would think about people using his name as a dogwhistle to put women back under the thumb. You seem a lot more spiritual and morally-righteous when you say "Christ is King" than when you say "I think women should serve men and men should be their superiors". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/24 02:15 PM |
| 12 | A vast majority of behaviours that give women the ick are things men would’t be doing if they did the basic work on themselvesThey insist on bastardized versions of the redpill like what Andrew Tate presents, while most of them have never taken the time to visit a redpill forum or browse any place related to it. From what I've seen, most advice is at least resonable and competent. Sure, there is the occasional "my wife left me so now I hate all women", but bitter people make occasional appearances in every group and they tend to get either ignored or a "don't worry man, keep your chin up". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/24 02:03 PM |
| 29 | A vast majority of behaviours that give women the ick are things men would’t be doing if they did the basic work on themselvesPosture, Hygiene, Voice, Effeminate physical gestures, Desperation and neediness, Communication, Assertiveness, Temper, Being too emotional, aka, inappropriately over emotional and investing too much without cause, Child like physical gestures, Indecisiveness work on yourself by exercising, placing yourself into social settings, challenge yourself whether it be in your career or passion and allow yourself to accept you're own maturity as you age instead of holding onto the past when mommy coddle… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/24 01:41 PM |
| 1 | Men should have a go bag or escape fund for emotional abuseNot sure what this has to do with my point, but I agree. Also, walk away from what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/24 07:27 AM |
| 6 | Men should have a go bag or escape fund for emotional abuseEven when it comes to basic hits, she can still inflict notable damage if she just keeps hitting and you don't fight back at all (because it's the culturally correct thing to do). Kind of like "You're a man, I'm a woman, my hits shouldn't even bruise you" and then she keeps hitting and hitting and hitting and of course at some point it's going to genuinely hurt in a physical sense. I've seen abusive women make use of this often in their relationships, when they went for mentally weaker dudes who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/24 06:35 AM |
| 2 | Attractive men don't have better skills when talking to women, they often never had to develop themI think whether you ask the fish or the fishermen is irrelevant, since all you'd be doing is asking around instead of actually attempting to fish, and learning from it. There is no better path to understanding women than interacting with them, because it allows the mind to subconsciously adapt to their responses and stop glorifying them as these supernatural beings, as opposed to what they truly are, which is just other people. When the mind slowly settles into the reality that they are normal p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/24 12:03 PM |
| 2 | Attractive men don't have better skills when talking to women, they often never had to develop thembut just don't have "it" I wholeheartedly agree here. They lack any kind of spice or way to intelectually develop their conversations, so regardless of what they behave like, are like, or even look like, their performance can fall flat in the face of some women. Oftentimes they end up being too rational, too practical, even authoritarian and weirdly obsessed with pragmaticism that they end up seeming very stale. Think of it like the dude who cannot, for the life of him, allow a conversation to d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/24 11:46 AM |
| 8 | Attractive men don't have better skills when talking to women, they often never had to develop themMore experience is always better than no experience. You aren't rediscovering America or anything. The point is that looks not only positively mulitply the effect of skills by a huge margin, but they also give you a lot more leeway in terms of screwing up. People are infinitely more willing to forgive social blunders from attractive people, which gives them a comfortable safety net to practice in tutorial mode. So, of course, they end up being bubbly, happy, chill people to be around, because th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/24 11:33 AM |
| 22 | Attractive men don't have better skills when talking to women, they often never had to develop themI was very shy but good looking boy in school, so I always had girls even then. You're literally saying you got attention from women even when having mediocre social skills. You collapsed your own argument midway. It's not that much of a tragedy, don't worry. Everyone with more than two braincels is aware looks are one of the mightiest social privileges you can have, as whatever gender. It's a never ending positive loop Of course it is. You started off from a place of privilege and it snowballed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/24 10:25 AM |
| 11 | Trauma-Bonding is the most effective means of keeping a women's emotional investment in youYeah, I'm clearly looking forward to dating a woman who's going to force me to play power games with her permanently, just to maintain her interest. You're referring to a sample size of mentally ill, worn down women who date bad boys because it soothes their struggles and feeds into their need for control (If I get the tough, uninvested dude to like me, then I'm worthy of love, right??). Fortunately for these types of men, there's never a shortage of mental illness among women. What these women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/24 01:22 PM |
| – | There is nothing wrong with not being selected by womenJust because history is a thing that happened and people kept existing past it, it doesn't mean it was a "success". It just means some, as opposed to some others, have made it out of these respective hellholes. Once again, is there anything to learn from them? Since you seem to know so much about these times, is there any way we could have true equality from these 40,000 years in an effective, applicable way to current society that wouldn't crumble everything to dust? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/24 04:30 PM |
| – | There is nothing wrong with not being selected by women"Thrived" as in what? What did they achieve, specifically? Are they historically relevant, do we have anything to learn from them? I am more than open to being educated on this topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/24 04:22 PM |
| – | There is nothing wrong with not being selected by womenSexual capitalism will lead to the destruction of society as a whole because women don't necessarily value traits that help build a society up, as opposed to what does work in terms of being attractive, which is being sharp, manly and as good-looking as possible in order to maximize her self-benefit (said self-benefit exists in opposition to what would contribute to society). Societies aren't built on "natural selection", but in making efforts to uphold as many citizens as possible in order for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/24 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Women who oppose men watching porn, do you also oppose men using their imagination to masturbate?Crazy levels of demoralization. I can't imagine giving a shit about what other people think of what I jack off to in privacy without affecting anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/24 12:15 PM |
| 14 | Women complaining from not getting approached anymoreI had a woman literally wave at me at a bar once because she’d spent minutes staring at me and I hadn’t reciprocated. I continued to ignore her. She left embarrassed. "CAN YOU FEEL MY HEAAART" just started playing in my head LOL. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/24 02:10 PM |
| 0 | There is good reason to not trust men.Okay, so then it is not about "physicality" for you as stated in your previous message. It is about bias against men. You have bias against men. You may be right. It's less about the physicality (despite you being stronger than her very likely regardless despite the size diffetence) but about the impulses your sexuality places upon you, which might push you to act more impulsively. Again, when I say "you", I don't refer to you specifically but to a general entity that represents the straight man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 08:33 PM |
| 0 | There is good reason to not trust men.I had a talk with a friend about this and am wondering your thoughts. It is 9:00 pm at night and I knock on the door of a single woman neighbor's home. She is shocked that I would do such a thing and calls me insensitive for doing so because, as a man, I should know a woman alone would be threatened by the presence of a man. Was it potentially threatening for me to do because of our respective sexes? Should I have known not to put that woman in that situation? Was I in the wrong? Why? [Pause to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 07:28 PM |
| 3 | There is good reason to not trust men.Great job! Keep being you, and I wish you a speedy recovery! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 06:53 PM |
| 2 | There is good reason to not trust men.The only reason I insisted on the use of "men" is because of physicality. They are stronger, physically, and can easily overwhelm the average woman with little to no effort in a worst case scenario. Given that, it would make sense to be slightly more wary of them than other women (as a woman). Other than that, yes. I agree. Caution is necessary in general. It takes one bad day and one moment where you trusted more than you should have for your life to take a horrible turn, or otherwise end. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 04:59 PM |
| 3 | There is good reason to not trust men.Very good. This sounds like a healthy mindset to have. I wish you a great time on your journey on planet Earth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 04:50 PM |
| 1 | There is good reason to not trust men.That is literally what I am saying. You are correct. No one is to be trusted entirely until they prove they can be trusted. This applies to men, women, dogs, household appliances etc. It's how people should operate within a society for their own safety. If you are under the impression that I blindly trust women, for example, you are dead wrong. Everyone needs to demonstrate the ability to be civil to each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 04:48 PM |
| 22 | Modern dating problems would be better if people were not okay with sharing.It has been revealed to him in a vision. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 02:12 PM |
| 5 | There is good reason to not trust men.As a woman, being a little wary of men in general isn't a sign of mental illness. On the contrary, it's a sign your brain works. And it's a bias that men can work their way out of with absolute ease, the most basic of human decency; then the woman can trust them. It isn't dehumanizing. If, as a guy, you find this dehumanizing in any way, a metaphorical question mark materializes above your head. Not trusting people in general right off the bat is the healthy thing to do, regardless of gender. It… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 01:56 PM |
| 19 | There is good reason to not trust men.Do whatever you want as long as it upholds your safety and doesn't directly harm anyone. Being biased against men is fine, frankly. I know this sounds a bit too schizophrenic even by reddit standards, but a little bias never hurt anyone. It's a defense mechanism, and men are free to prove their way out of it simply by behaving normally and not being aggressive. I'm not a woman, but it must certainly suck being surrounded by dick-wielders all day among whom even the weakest could physically overw… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 01:37 PM |
| 2 | I believe women have a personal motivation to lie about their desiresBecause it's in their benefit. As long as the woman is there as a prize, or an engine, men have historically been willing to work themselves to death, die in wars, suffer excruciatingly and many other forms of torture. Men love controllable states of chaos that they can act upon with their own strength, because the resulting hierarchy creates a market (a demand) for their masculinity in women, thus making them desirable to said women. Why do you think a lot of men advocate for conservative menta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/24 11:36 AM |
| 0 | I believe women have a personal motivation to lie about their desiresAbout what? Mind expanding? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/24 11:25 AM |
| -2 | I believe women have a personal motivation to lie about their desiresBecause this obsession with women has been getting harnessed and weaponized for centuries, and has lead to the creation of the collective mass you call a "society", and things like capital being produced en masse. Calm, peaceful people are worthless because they don't desire things like angry, vicious people do. People who are vicious are so because they desire viscerally, and correctly playing around these desires leads to the production of useful things for human conglomerates, because it allo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/24 11:15 AM |
| 6 | A lot of men who are chronically single get immediately rejected, not ghosted after they showed their characterCompetence and attractiveness are always kings of the hill in terms of getting people to like you. Things like morality and being a good person are secondary. Incompetent, worthless, unattractive people have no way of demonstrating their moral character regardless. You cannot assess what kind of person you are when you don't possess any leverage in the social world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/24 01:40 PM |
| 1 | Telling struggling men to be gay is not a valid solution.It’s the contradiction of badmouthing women as a whole and then complaining they can’t get a date. The answer seems pretty obvious. Not only is this not a contradiction, but you are making a false correlation. Nobody chooses what their sexuality is and who they want to date. You don't try to date who you want to date, you try to date who your biological agenda wants you to date. What straight man on planet Earth in 2024 do you think is willingly choosing to be attracted to women? It's not their … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/24 01:00 PM |
| 0 | Both men and women entertain people they have no intention of marrying while ignoring the ones they would.It's to attractive people's advantage to run around banging whoever they want. They don't really care about your proposition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/24 07:07 AM |
| 7 | Its "Old Fashioned" to expect your wife/Long term GF to do "household chores."Bro is just advocating for slavery and degeneracy, lol. Also, people cook their own food at home because it's less expensive and generally healthier, as opposed to the more expensive/pretentious option of always eating out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/24 02:07 PM |
| 3 | Men, what negative dating/relationship experiences have you personally had with women?I guess I simply wish women were more blunt and selfish about what they want Good luck with that one, LOL. Trial and error seem to be the only way to squeeze out any actual solutions from these situations. I don't blame women for largely concealing what they're attracted to, because if it's all on the table openly they lose a lot of bargaining power. Knowledge is power, and not sharing all of it with men might be to the women's advantage. I don't think it's anything like malice. If anything, it'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 04:18 PM |
| 46 | Men, what negative dating/relationship experiences have you personally had with women?"I didn't actually even like you. It's unfair to do this to you. I was trying to make my ex jealous" Man this sucks so fucking much. I am sorry. Not the first time I hear of something like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 04:13 PM |
| 1 | Dating would be easier if most men stoped being thirsty.It is. You're literally approaching a human being by means of a social media proxy. It's still an approach as long as you're actually shooting your shot instead of sending instagram reels or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Dating would be easier if most men stoped being thirsty.If you can get the "I'll see where this goes, no promises" women to think about asking out a guy, then I'd call it a win. This does happen. Once again, lol. I'm really sorry to inform people of this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 01:01 PM |
| 1 | Dating would be easier if most men stoped being thirsty.Women do approach, at least from what I've seen. This notion that women don't make moves comes from unattractive dudes. Talk to any attractive guy ever, they can't get the chicks out of their DMs lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 10:00 AM |
| 2 | Dating would be easier if most men stoped being thirsty.They are being shamed. It's largely seen as embarrassing to be a town bike regardless of gender, at least in real life and not on reddit or other obscure forums. It's just that their attractiveness makes up for it, plus they have the preselection going for them. Women like men who other women like. Moreover, it's a lot more rewarding to be part of a drama-infused rotation of a top-tier attractive dude than be the one and only of some monotone, ugly silly Billy Betabux. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 09:58 AM |
| 13 | Banning "low effort dates" are just another way that women hurt themselves.There's nobody good enough for me and I am not going to lower my standards". The amusing idea that men think like this is so incredibly delusional to me. You know you're talking about women, but you feel the need to extrapolate to lower the pressure. Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 10:27 AM |
| 5 | More women need to practice what they preach when it comes to sex and datingIncompatible romantically, chief. He didn't say anything about their capacity to be friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 10:04 AM |
| 10 | More women need to practice what they preach when it comes to sex and datingThe party which holds all the leverage, has nothing invested, and nothing to lose can have as many delusions, double standards, and nonsensical complaints as they want. Hit the nail on the head. People will often be delusional and overtly-demanding when they can afford to, and are sitting on a pile of leverage. It's just human nature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 09:58 AM |
| 2 | Behaviors create gender roles, not the other way around.Thank you. I mostly use this account as a venting platform where I spitball whatever's going on in my head at the time. I don't actually care about the points I'm making or whether anyone agrees with me or not. I'm just discharging some energy by typing out random, unorganized thoughts. I don't even believe most of the stuff I've said here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 02:25 PM |
| 1 | Behaviors create gender roles, not the other way around.Men are certainly more sexual than women are, and at no point did I call women asexual. I simply called their criteria for what makes attraction more selective, which does narrow down the number of men they find attractive significantly in comparison to the number of women men find attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 02:22 PM |
| 2 | Behaviors create gender roles, not the other way around.I agree. Good point. This response might have kicked me out of my manic episode. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 02:15 PM |
| -1 | Behaviors create gender roles, not the other way around.My point here is that extinguishing gender roles on paper is a weak adhesive that will corrode in time as long as men and women's desires keep functioning as they always have. It's a much longer and extensive discussion than I'd like it to be and frankly I am not in the mood to type that much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 02:01 PM |
| 3 | Behaviors create gender roles, not the other way around.How is it free labor if he is literally providing resources for her? Again, it's a traditional context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 01:58 PM |
| 0 | Behaviors create gender roles, not the other way around.That is correct, from a psychological perspective, as she is trading in her freedom and autonomy to some dude who has maximum power over her. But in terms of effort, he clearly has to put in a lot more to provide, albeit this is what grants him said control over her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 01:53 PM |
| 3 | Behaviors create gender roles, not the other way around.Sounds very "gender role"-ish to me. So men are supposed to go ahead and die for women's sake, but what is the pay-off? Why should they do this, exactly? In the past, they used to do this with the incentive of the woman's love, a family, offspring that would be easily granted to them, as women lacked necessary rights. Said oppression doesn't apply today, so why should men keep being sacrifical for women's sake exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 01:32 PM |
| -4 | Behaviors create gender roles, not the other way around.I agree, given that I was implying an "ideal" traditional man within my analogy, as opposed to what traditional men actually tend to be like in reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 01:29 PM |
| 2 | Behaviors create gender roles, not the other way around.I don't know what point you're trying to make. So sending men to war is fine because they are stronger and faster? Please elaborate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 01:28 PM |
| -6 | Behaviors create gender roles, not the other way around.On the other hand, there could be another, more traditional guy. Pays for dates, invests plenty of his emotional/financial resources into you, performs all the emotional/physical labor you request of him (even if you don't reciprocate) etc. with the added pay-off that he expects more from you sexually (or not even that). And I repeat: performs all the emotional/physical labor you request of him (even if you don't reciprocate) etc. with the added pay-off that he expects more from you sexually (or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 01:26 PM |
| 1 | Behaviors create gender roles, not the other way around.Yes. This wasn't a blanket statement, as in any particular case any particular thing can happen. It's a general observation and since it comes from my subjective perspective, who knows? It might be faulty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 01:22 PM |
| 10 | Why do men who clearly dislike women still want to date them?I think you've gotten no argument and thus can literally not respond. It's fine, happens all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 12:27 PM |
| 6 | Why do men who clearly dislike women still want to date them?So if you're sexually attracted to women, it would makes sense to not hate them? Its not hard. You sound very debatable, what can I say. This is clearly not an amusing point of view. People also dislike the act of pooping, because it's ugly and pretty disgusting, but they still go to the bathroom when the need arises because they have to. No one gets to choose who they're sexually attracted to. If people did, we would've all been balls deep in our best friends regardless of gender and things wou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 12:25 PM |
| – | Question for “traditional” men: Do you recognize that traditional gender roles put women at a disadvantage? If so, does this bother you? Or conversely, do you like the power imbalance?Then life happened and I came to realize the unthought-about consequences. And these are things I’m betting many young women don’t think about either. It's a classic scenario and a typical trap patriarchal systems lay at the feet of women, and plenty of them seem to be unfortunately biting the bait. Clearly not a majority, but a worrying amount. To answer your question, of course it's about creating a power imbalance. When the woman is effectively powerless and unable to provide for herself (due… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 03:01 PM |
| – | Q4w: do you still take female beauty standards seriously?one requires literal plastic surgery, other about an hour at the vanity just to get that contouring right. Those are the beauty standards I don't fit into. This is just grasping at straws for obsessiveness' sake, as a lot of women seem to be doing. You've fit into more than enough of the "beauty standard" if people find you attractive, especially the ones you like. The very purpose of self-beauty is to generate leverage in your life, and your beauty seems to be doing just that. Trying to become … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:49 AM |
| – | Q4w: do you still take female beauty standards seriously?who helped me see my own unique features other women would go under the knife to have. My husband loves me the way I am, and I get a good share of attention from other guys, and I more often than not am too lazy to put any makeup on! Ok... So yeah, I barely if ever took popular beauty standards seriously. ... even so, it seems you still fit these "beauty standards" you don't bother yourself with. Your wonderful husband loves you and other men are giving you attention, so you're certainly up ther… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:46 AM |
| 8 | There are two ways of talking to women: 1) treating them as people and 2) treating them as people you want to have sex withUh, based department? Probably the best comment I've seen on PPD. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 03:20 PM |
| – | The madonna-whore complex is not gendered.I agree, actually. I don't know if your description of the complex was accurate (and it probably isn't), but I agree with the sentiment. You can respect people who you also want to have sex with, and it's pretty insane to think otherwise, likely due to cultural notions of what sex is or isn't supposed to be like. When people lose atrraction for their partners, it's often due to a plethora of factors that have nothing to do with the complex itself. Maybe they've gotten more stale, more boring, fa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 09:08 AM |
| 2 | Would you date someone who is bisexual?Tangential, but there's a variety of ways to understand how women feel about the dating market and why they do so. Trying to date other men as a man is certainly one of them. Catfishing on regular dating apps is another. My 3rd personal schizophrenic example is trying to talk to AI chatbots, which are very interesting to talk to at first, but slowly get insanely boring because you realize they are programmed to swiftly agree with you on pretty much anything ever (which strips them of that feelin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 10:43 PM |
| 3 | Not all women are like thatThe reason is because both claims are irrelevant. "All of group x does y" is a pointless, nonsensical blanket statement and "not all of group x does y" is a pointless statement as well, despite being objectively true, as it doesn't take the discussion anywhere. What you're mentioning here is just two bad arguments bumping heads with each other. If someone tells me "all people do x", instead of telling them that "not all people do x" I would instead make an effort to see where they're coming from… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 08:59 PM |
| 3 | Would you date someone who is bisexual?There's a huge number if women thst consider it an absolute deal breaker and many seem to experience visceral disgust at the thought. Bi men are often just seen as gay. I would say the main reason is the added amount of external pressure applied on the relationship, given that you're susceptible to both men and women. Male-attracted men are also seen as having low physical standards towards the men they would bang, which is another layer of added pressure (And, frankly, it is something I've seen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 08:56 PM |
| – | Not all women are like thatCan guys stop being such pathetic fucking whimps that get affected by any little set of words? Like, honestly. "You're a mysogynist/incel/virgin/loser!!!!" uh, ok? Whatever, lol. If you're talking to anyone about anything ever and their debating points resume to "not all x" or ad-hominems just politely walk away, they can't actually argue their point in good faith so the discussion itself is pointless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 08:43 PM |
| 0 | The “men get other men, that’s why we don’t trust men with our women” and “women are unfairly judging men” dichotomyYou're missing the point. It doesn't matter if she wouldn't literally go in and cheat, it's the fact that she knows the 'male friends' she has are into her and hangs out around them regardless. It's a question of respect. But yes, agreed, you drop a woman that needs this explained to her. Yeah I agree with most of your response to be honest, especially this. Lmao no, this is terrible advice. Drop her when she insists on going out a fuck ton and engaging in dubious activities. You don't wait till… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/24 08:19 AM |
| 3 | The “men get other men, that’s why we don’t trust men with our women” and “women are unfairly judging men” dichotomyI don't think it's a moral failure for men to like, want to date and sleep with attractive women. Never said anything about this. You're free to like and date whoever you want, just like anyone else. Or is it the case that I should somehow delude myself into thinking other men somehow don't see that in my partner? So what if they do? They're going to approach her, or make moves and because she is your partner (whom you trust) she is going to let them down and move on with her day. If you're talk… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 10:45 PM |
| 13 | The “men get other men, that’s why we don’t trust men with our women” and “women are unfairly judging men” dichotomy“we know how men are, so we don’t trust other men” Whoever the guys saying these things are need to take a look in the mirror. It's always the biggest assholes going around assuming the worst of everyone. They are rotten, so they assume others are too, in order to lessen the pressure of the moral impact. "I am a man and I suck. Could it possibly be that I just suck and should change?... No. It's because I am a man. It's not my personality, and thus I am free to keep acting like this." Internaliz… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 05:33 PM |
| 9 | Lonely/single women are often disrespected or falsely accused of thingsWe were never meant to have this level of access to other strangers' opinions. The brain feels a responsibility to understand and digest the information it's presented with. And, naturally, it will focus on the bad apples, because it's trying to adapt and protect you from any potential issues. It has no interest in focusing on the good things, because they don't need to be adapted to, so the bad ones take precedence, mentally. Inflamatory comments on the internet have a magnetic pull to them tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 05:27 PM |
| 5 | Lonely/single women are often disrespected or falsely accused of thingsI agree. The thing is, it's very hard for people to factor in elements that exists outside of their biases. Most people are biased in all sorts of ways, and this is what biases often do: they extend unwarranted judgements on people who haven't even proved they deserve to have said judgements overlaid on them. Truthfully, most people's opinions on most things are discardable. You don't need to bother with whatever they're parroting about. "Women do this" and "women do that" and "women are like th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 05:18 PM |
| 1 | Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities?Jordan has passed his prime a long time ago. His older clips are fairly useful, but his adherence to religious schizophrenia has pushed him to become a shallow, vapid version of himself. I'm more of a "watching destiny debate red-pilled content creators" kind of guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 05:01 PM |
| 2 | Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities?And yeah, why you do something matters. If you arrive at a place of fitness, self-esteem, and self-development by having ingested all this venom, hatred, anger, and so forth...you're just going to be a monster. As C.S. Lewis would say, education without values, as useful as it seems, only makes for cleverer devils. And that's what I see this movement producing, monsters and devils. Hotter ones, more attractive ones, but monsters all the same. Extremely valid take. Thank you for the insight. What… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 04:55 PM |
| 1 | Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities?Is this the whole “666” standard bullshit? <image> Kind of hard to improve your chances if it reduces women’s opinion of you That's your personal opinion. You are entitled to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 04:37 PM |
| 0 | Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities?I don't disagree or agree with it in any significant way. She has a certain perception of what the red pill is, and I have another. It's just a matter of which end of the 6 you're sitting at, so to say. She is a lot more focused on the resulting opinion of women the RP creates, while I am more focused on the practical aspects of how it serves to improve men's chances in the dating world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 04:17 PM |
| -2 | Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities?Sadly, there is nothing to understand in gaslighting, strawmen and other various debating tactics, as no new information is being provided. I prefer cohesive, logical reasoning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 04:10 PM |
| -3 | Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities?Thank you very much. Insightful response. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 01:40 PM |
| 1 | Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities?I see. Interesting, I guess? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 01:17 PM |
| -3 | Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities?Yes. This one sucks. When people gain leverage, it tends to get to their head. Happens to people in general, regardless of gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 01:00 PM |
| 4 | Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities?As long as you keep your definition in the shadows, I can't argue against your point. Also, if it's a niche one that you can't really just go and find anywhere recognizable, then it might have been revealed to you in a prophetic vision. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 01:00 PM |
| 0 | Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities?Honestly you might just be the person that actually answered the question and cleared up the fog for me a bit. Thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 12:58 PM |
| -5 | Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities?Phew, I can finally agree with a response to this post. Sure, I guess? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 12:57 PM |
| -1 | Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities?You have a gripe with a movement you can't even properly define? How peculiar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 12:56 PM |
| 1 | Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities?I didn't specify what the idiotic shit was. You made that up in your head. You looked at a general notion and attached to it your personal meaning. What is this "parade of idiotic shit" exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 12:55 PM |
| -4 | Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities?the red pill encourages- narcissism, vanity, insecurity, envy, hypergamy, epicureanism- I don't really know what you're talking about here. And hypergamy is a thing the red pill adapts to, not gives birth to. As for the narcissism and vanity... sure, I mean, once they become highly attractive to women, it's hard for it not to get to their heads. That's certainly a rough one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 12:53 PM |
| -15 | Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities?I'm afraid I can't really argue against your point as this is just a bunch of gaslighting. Lol. You do you, though, I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 12:51 PM |
| 1 | Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities?how hard it makes the heart. It's a choice people have to make sometimes. You either adapt, or you don't. It's about how much you want to be a part of the dating game, whether you want casual relationships or committed ones, how attractive do you want your partners to be etc. Adaptation often involves a bitter taste in people's mouths. That's life. terrible degrading fetishes. I don't want someone who gravitates toward weird or abusive tendencies. That's normal. But life is often not about ideal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 12:49 PM |
| 2 | Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities?Worldviews are irrelevant if they don't bring up the proper prescriptions. I don't care about the wrapping of my medicine when I buy it from the pharmacy, for example. My interest is in its effectiveness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 12:43 PM |
| -3 | Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities?there are just as many WRONG interpretations that people take from RP and no one really challenges them on it. You are free to bring up a few examples. spin plates, she's not yours it's just your turn, It's hard to wish to commit to anyone in an age where everyone can just up and leave at any time with no restrictions. The only thing I find wrong here is the pronoun used, and more accurately I would replace "she" with "they". It also doesn't help that attractive people typically have plenty of o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 12:42 PM |
| 5 | Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities?Just because two sides promote self-improvement, it doesn't mean that both propose effective variants of self-improvement. When one side tells you that improvement boils down to simply washing your ass and leaving the house, it ends up being not very effective because it's simply insufficient. It's not that it's wrong, it's just not enough. And that's often where the red pill comes in, to bridge the rest of the way and propose tangible, effective ways to reaching the target (be that romance, sex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 12:37 PM |
| 10 | A lot of men and women are out here choosing to be with people they have no business being with and then complaining after the fact.It's because people love dating "up" and they are willing to take various sorts of gambles in order to maintain their access to said people. Even if it all goes into flames, it's usually still an exciting thing to go through. To some, it's certainly more stimulating than the sheer horror of dating "across", or, dare I say, even "down". That is, until they get older, and the charade starts to wear them down psychologically. They tend to shift gears at that point. There were more relationships amo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/24 01:44 PM |
| 1 | The preference of some men for very older women or very fat women is because these men have romanticized what they perceive as sexually availableBeing attracted to very older women or very fat chicks is not optimal for child creation. I ha e this pet theory that these men romanticize what they think is sexually available. Not sure anyone's gonna admit it, but this is actually factual, and it's not a gendered thing by any means. Plenty of people fetishize unattractive traits because they perceive unattractive people to be lower cost and thus more accessible in the dating world. It's like their personal adaptation mechanism to their circum… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/24 09:11 AM |
| – | Virgins vs fuckbois they are the sameWomen want greater than 0 experience in their partners but less then say 2 to 3 partners. Men want 0 experience or less than 2 to 3 past partners in their prospective partners. You are right. You pulled these numbers straight out of your ass. No one cares about the particular number, but the correlation between said past experiences and your current self. No one minds experience, but how it's manifested in your behavior and future possible behavior. A bodycount of 3 made in a foursome in college… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 07:10 PM |
| 2 | Imagine a world without slutshamingI find this statement odd. I find Chad type men dont want a pure woman. They want one who will put out quickly and not want to be tied down as he doesnt want commitment anyway. It depends on which side of the Madonna-Whore complex they're sitting on. If all they want is a short-term fling, they are naturally going to head for easily available women, or otherwise women who wouldn't require much effort regardless. The discussion would likely be different if they were aiming for LTR's. The vast maj… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 06:58 PM |
| 3 | Passport Bro's Use the reasoning "There are no good women in the West" to cover up the fact they are losersYou might want to expand on your point if you want an actual response. I'm not sure what I can do with this remark. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 05:41 PM |
| 2 | Imagine a world without slutshamingYou are making a causation error. The shaming is merely the effect of the cause, which is that men don't exactly fancy promiscuity in women. As long as the subset of attractive men don't put rings on this sort of behavior, the "shaming" is going to exist regardless, given that women do want to get into their graces and get them to commit. Most people crave romance and relationships, right? In a society where slutshaming doesnt exist, she wouldnt assume you'd be worried about her count and she wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 05:39 PM |
| 3 | Passport Bro's Use the reasoning "There are no good women in the West" to cover up the fact they are losersCalling men not good enough isn't hatred either, apparently. So do with that what you will. Broadcasting what exactly? What are these "broadcasts" saying according to you? Moreover, what issue is there with some men choosing to leave? What's the problem? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 05:31 PM |
| 3 | Passport Bro's Use the reasoning "There are no good women in the West" to cover up the fact they are losersSpreading hatred? Who's spreading hatred? Niche, irrelevant RP channels on youtube with 50k view averages? PPB's are just moving across and taking a shot at finding their happiness. The rest are details. It's their freedom to do so. No one even knows what a PassPort Bro is in real life. Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 03:36 PM |
| 3 | Imagine a world without slutshamingIf i dont want a promiscuous woman, in a world with no slutshaming she wouldnt be as tempted to lie about it It's precisely the fact that you wouldn't want a promiscuous woman that incentivizes her to lie about it, not the shaming, which is just an extension of men's lack of desire towards promiscuous activity in women they want to wife up. The truth is that women will never beat the desire for purity out of men who are actually attractive, and have access to women. Most they'll ever do is beat … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 03:33 PM |
| 17 | Passport Bro's Use the reasoning "There are no good women in the West" to cover up the fact they are losersThat sounds tough, damn. Good thing no one has to care what you think about anything, and can just go about their business and happiness however they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 11:56 AM |
| 3 | Why do *some men, try to convince virginal & low n count women to have sex without marriage/commitment?Because they get a narcisistic boost out of it. If you tame the untamed, then you're pretty cool, or something like that. It's less about the virginity itself, and more about these types trying to prove something to themselves. Deeply insecure, fundamentally flawed individuals. If she puts sex on the table without you having to put in much effort, then you're one of the "cool guys", the "tough guys", the "womanizers". Especially if she's a viiiiirgin, which puts you ahead of lots of fictional du… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 10:31 PM |
| 3 | Due to us growing up in an increasingly system based society, we have forgotten that nothing in this world is a true right or entitlement , and for this argument a guaranteed mate and sex.They need to find purpose outside of women. Married Blue Pill Man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 01:06 PM |
| -1 | The double standards around male standardsThe only reason there is a double standard is because women attempt to understand how men function and what they respond to, but they make the crucial mistake of lumping in attractive men with unattractive men, who might as well be different genders at this point: different standards, different options, different opportuinities, vastly different experiences of life etc. Tangential, but wasn't there a study that associated increases in male height with decreased suicide risk? Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 12:28 PM |
| 7 | There will aways be a battle between the sexesOf course it does. But this is reddit, and everyone likes to one up each other and pretend they are somehow above logic. "I think economics also encompass the way relationships work" "A-ha! Wrong! Relationships actually just magically happen like in my fairytales because I said so! Checkmate, fellow redditor!" Bunch of clueless, headless chicken just running around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 03:14 PM |
| – | I'm tired of people telling men that they shouldn't care about relationship/sex/intimacy and just focus on "being happy singe"I agree. I have undergone a change in my opinions since about an hour ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 02:21 PM |
| – | I'm tired of people telling men that they shouldn't care about relationship/sex/intimacy and just focus on "being happy singe"Same. Enjoyable one. Thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 01:16 PM |
| – | I'm tired of people telling men that they shouldn't care about relationship/sex/intimacy and just focus on "being happy singe"My boyfriend has said many times that I'm the only one he's ever dated who actually "walks the walk, not just the talk". Oh, wait. I remember you. You're the woman with the much older boyfriend, right? Sorry if I'm mistaken. This "walk the walk" stuff sounds like a sweetened variation of "being mature for your age", but I'm not one to gossip. It does seem there's a very low quantity of us in general. Indeed. Criminally low. But that's why a lot of mgtow won't fully commit to the women they're ty… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 01:03 PM |
| 3 | The best move a single man can make is work on being happy alone.I think you are a very smart individual, and those are some competent points you are making. However, I'd like it if you expanded on what your approach would be, as you still haven't really answered the question. Eventually they all united and pushed for the destigmatizaion and now you have all these young high school aged women on tik tok showing their ass and starting an onlyfans with little to no social consequnces. Winning the hearts and minds of people. People especialy men are slowly start… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 12:52 PM |
| – | I'm tired of people telling men that they shouldn't care about relationship/sex/intimacy and just focus on "being happy singe"limit their options voluntarily They limit their "options" voluntarily because said wonderful, accepting, egalitarian "options" you seem to be talking about are nowhere in their proximity, taken or otherwise incredibly hard to find. Hence why they quit the market and go about their business. I am clueless as to why, as a woman, you would have a problem with this. Even from the standpoint of a debate. If undesirable, mediocre men leave the market, aren't your prayers being answered to? Or is ther… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 12:37 PM |
| – | I'm tired of people telling men that they shouldn't care about relationship/sex/intimacy and just focus on "being happy singe"They are effectively equivalent for men who couldn't get dates or women regardless, which is most of the MGTOW audience. You assume the presence of women in your second explanation, but the women are nowhere to be seen regardless of what the average MGTOW chooses, so he might as well submit to either of them since they are the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 12:17 PM |
| 0 | Hypergamy is just the quality of men having to add something to a woman's life.Female sexuality is like a facilitator of some kind of "upwards progress". It pulls men towards some sort of awesomeness, that's what it wants, that's how it works fundamentally. Female sexuality asks a question: you exist, so what? Why should I be into you? That's the quality I would call hypergamy. Women long for something, which then makes them want sex/relationships. Ah, FUCK! FUCK reddit! I have such a good response to this post but I am going to get fucking banned if I expand on this. Grea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 12:15 PM |
| – | I'm tired of people telling men that they shouldn't care about relationship/sex/intimacy and just focus on "being happy singe"it's almost always assumed to be a push for men to go "monk mode", it was literally reminding men to "go their own way" aka take time to remove the shackles of social expectations and traditional gender roles, to really think about what they as an individual person, want out of life Those seem pretty identical to me. Or you could enlighten me further. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 11:58 AM |
| 4 | The best move a single man can make is work on being happy alone.I agree with most of your sentiment. However, what would you propose? Not necessarily for yourself, but for you and other people like you? Imagine you are a political party in a position to change things. What would you implement? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 11:58 PM |
| 10 | The best move a single man can make is work on being happy alone.make it acceptable for men to break traditional gender roles as well. They are starting to break them regardless of societal influence. The contract isn't holding, so they're gradually backing away from it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 11:35 PM |
| 4 | A man’s attraction/sexual attraction to the woman is the only exclusive indicator of sexual when it comes to successful sex or relationshipsreciprocation can only start once someone makes the first move/act/etc. sexual attraction or sexual desire or lust. Is one mechanism that causes one to initiate and take risks and start the first act/move. And the implications of this metaphorically/conceptually/physically are important. Uh, yes? Of course? The parties need to... desire each other... to have... sex? And somebody needs to initiate. Alright. We're getting to highschool level sex-ed, almost there. women can have duty sex and can ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 10:08 PM |
| 11 | The best move a single man can make is work on being happy alone.Women having the same autonomy and freedom as men is naturally not a bad thing. It's simply equality. The "terrifying" things I was talking about are the societal implications of this going forward, but this is a topic that's too schizophrenic for my liking so I'll just stop here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 09:51 PM |
| 3 | The best move a single man can make is work on being happy alone.I do agree. However, it's also the best and most practical option you have, although not the most "rational", so to say. I would argue that submitting yourself to chasing women your entire life is going to leave you a bitter, vile husk of yourself. It also makes you a money-printer for manosphere content. Sincerely, I recommend enjoying the ride and always remember that women also wipe when they shit, puke when they've had too much to drink etc. We only glorify people because we don't know enoug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 07:48 PM |
| 6 | The best move a single man can make is work on being happy alone.You've presented yourself with the choices you have. Either you make efforts to acquire attractiveness, or you make efforts to acquire a more pleasant life so your general need for a partner goes down. I strongly recommend investing your energy in the second. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 07:35 PM |
| 3 | The best move a single man can make is work on being happy alone.Eh, relax man. You're thinking too far ahead. Just enjoy your life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 07:28 PM |
| – | If women were as horny as men they wouldn’t have the delusional standards and pickiness they haveYou think women are in there sucking those dicks? lol I wonder who the burden of proof falls on. Prove my first example wrong and I’ll give you more. It couldn't possibly be the person making the claim, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 07:00 PM |
| – | If women were as horny as men they wouldn’t have the delusional standards and pickiness they haveThere are also plenty of other examples of men doing wild shit for sex. Not so many for women. You could just use these examples then. No point in mentioning glory holes when most men have never had anything to do with one ever. Also, don't glory holes take two? LOL. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 06:55 PM |
| – | If women were as horny as men they wouldn’t have the delusional standards and pickiness they haveI'm sure the entire collective of 3 total men who have used glory holes would agree with your statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 06:48 PM |
| 3 | If you are in a casual relationship, or if the guy is trying to avoid commitment with the usual 'Not sure/Wanna take it slow' excuse, I think ya'll should be more impersonal and not offer anything apart from sexif sex is all he wants, that's all he will get. Oh nooo, sex is all he wants and that's what he's gonna get. Oh noooo, what is he gonna doooo.... Cool post otherwise 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 06:44 PM |
| 18 | The best move a single man can make is work on being happy alone.It's only natural. Women having their traditional roles taken to the void isn't a bad thing in and of itself. The issue is when socities expect contracts to hold, while both ends of said contract aren't being upheld. When one side of it falls, the other naturally falls as well, if given time. Terrifying things to think about, but oh well. I'm glad I'm generally the idiot of the group in my free time. Recharges my batteries and stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 06:33 PM |
| 4 | The best move a single man can make is work on being happy alone.I mostly agree. Great take. However, The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth. It really is that simple. Be careful, reddit citizen. You are doing a wrong-think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 06:30 PM |
| 13 | The best move a single man can make is work on being happy alone.You seem like a great friend. This sounds like the right push in the right direction, for your friends' sake and for their mental health. 👍 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 06:28 PM |
| 63 | The best move a single man can make is work on being happy alone.But the best move a man can make is rejecting all of that crap, because the carrot at the end of the stick that used to incentivize men to shoulder the burdens of society no longer exists: the status of being a husband is more unstable and less rewarding with every year. The status of being a man is more and more degrading with every year. So men should reject the role society has left to us, and focus on what makes us happy outside of sex or status or women's opinions of us. Do we have any way … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 06:13 PM |
| -2 | Where Does the Notion that "Men are More Romantic" Come From?Please define romantic in a quantifiable way, so that I can actually argue against your point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 11:17 AM |
| 20 | Why do straight women like other women so much more than they like men?Neither gender is superior to the other and literally everyone can be a scumbag, regardless of genitals. I am genuinely clueless as to why people try to argue against this and point fingers around, when, in truth, everything with a pulse has the capacity to be either an asshole or a kind person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 11:15 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Why should money not be a woman's primary concern, if the man in question is like twice-thrice her age, is not the silver fox type handsome old man,ageing like fine wine, and is a cranky, sanctimonious, delusional old boy, who can't see he's past his prime?Nonetheless, certainly it's rare enough that men don't have to worry about it, right? 😂😂😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 12:33 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Why should money not be a woman's primary concern, if the man in question is like twice-thrice her age, is not the silver fox type handsome old man,ageing like fine wine, and is a cranky, sanctimonious, delusional old boy, who can't see he's past his prime?My apologies, "some", because apparently I can't say anything slightly negative about women without the "Please say some" squad coming at me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 12:24 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Why should money not be a woman's primary concern, if the man in question is like twice-thrice her age, is not the silver fox type handsome old man,ageing like fine wine, and is a cranky, sanctimonious, delusional old boy, who can't see he's past his prime?Some. Not all. Enough to warrant caution. This is women's argument in regards to being wary of men, by the way, so you can't counter it. Most women date and marry within same socio-economic status. This is true, but the tendency is starting to crack, as men's use in women's life starts to boil down to either looking good or providing cash. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 12:15 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Why should money not be a woman's primary concern, if the man in question is like twice-thrice her age, is not the silver fox type handsome old man,ageing like fine wine, and is a cranky, sanctimonious, delusional old boy, who can't see he's past his prime?This is just a red herring, considering women date exclusively for money even within their own age groups. The only issue with "dating for money" is understanding that a lot of other women are doing the exact same thing, so there is a huge demand on your partner. You never know when he might leave you for younger and prettier, and it's not like he's forced to tell you in advance. Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 12:09 PM |
| 2 | The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issuesBut the manosphere doesn’t actually advocate for means to help mens issues That's literally what it does, with surgical precision. It increases their attractiveness to women, thus serving their cause and providing a supply where there is a demand. it complains about women not doing it for them and blames them I'm not sure what you're referring to here. Can you expand on this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 03:06 PM |
| 2 | Is dating casually as a man frequently immoral?I often tell women upfront, that I am unlikely to commit to them. Yet they persist despite their own personal goals. As long as you do this and make it clear upfront, the moral pressure is completely off of your back. Whatever they decide to do next is up to them, and they are fully responsible for it. They are by no means entitled to a relationship just because there is "couple behavior". 500 Days of Summer had an excellent lesson in this regard. If they tell you that they're not willing to com… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 03:49 PM |
| 2 | Red Pillers should admit the Red Pill is about how to get your dick wet and leave the "grand narratives" behindAs long as they aren’t hateful I don’t see the problem Unfortunately, anything they don't deem "agreeable" or fit to their agenda will be deemed hateful. It's why you see reddit crying out for a "reasonable" influencer for men that isn't "hateful". In reality, they keep getting these "reasonable" influencers, but because they actually incentivize and push men towards becoming more attractive, they are deemed "hateful", and thus the hamster wheel of desire for one of these guys appears again. It'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 03:17 PM |
| 3 | Red Pillers should admit the Red Pill is about how to get your dick wet and leave the "grand narratives" behindNaturally. And when all else fails, they'll just pretend the red pill was, in fact, "common sense all along" and "how could you not see that, you autist" Typical debate tactic. When you get backed into a corner, just pretend your opponent was arguing for your side all along and that you were right, not them. There's got to be a name for this, but I can't put my finger on it.. hmm... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 03:07 PM |
| 6 | Red Pillers should admit the Red Pill is about how to get your dick wet and leave the "grand narratives" behindEven the whole "it's just common sense" feels incredibly dehumanizing towards neurodivergent/autistic people. What do these guys do in order to date? If they don't have it in them, they might as well learn from someone. And it's clearly not the "just shower bro, it's all so easy" squad. They don't realize how exclusive and downright bigoted they're being with these sorts of statements. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Red Pillers should admit the Red Pill is about how to get your dick wet and leave the "grand narratives" behindI don't agree with them either, don't worry. It's why I have a purple pill tag. Arguing on this subreddit seems so fruitless since it's so full of disagreeable, aggressive blue pillers who can't tie two logical sentences together to save their lives. It doesn't help that the average person on this sub's age probably starts with a 4, and you have old people who've gone through an entirely different, previous dating market that has no tangence to what's happening today stating their clueless opini… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 02:54 PM |
| -2 | Red Pillers should admit the Red Pill is about how to get your dick wet and leave the "grand narratives" behind“the subtle art of not giving a fuck” This can be learned. It's a learnable skill. And it's something RP circles teach not perfectly, but decently well, and definitely better than blue pilled circles. You really think a “RP man” cares if someone thinks what he’s doing is a joke? Bruh Oh, I get it. You're "shit-testing" red pill users for some reason, and the way for them to win is to not respond to your delusional affirmations. Touché, you get this point, since I've responded. the dudes that act… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 02:42 PM |
| 0 | Red Pillers should admit the Red Pill is about how to get your dick wet and leave the "grand narratives" behindBecause if you were actually able to BE Redpill, you would have never needed TRP in the first place. “ What a schizophrenic take. Are you implying men can't learn how to be attractive? Sounds a lot like the horseshit of "alpha's are born, not made". After 12 years the only thing the RedPill was able to do was to get perpetually online dudes to spend all their time talking about the RP. Online Once again, you are operating within your own mental bubble and completely discarding reality. Plenty of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 02:20 PM |
| 0 | If the majority of children are raised by women, where do gender roles come from?It's very simple, really. We are getting to that stage of feminism where men are subtly being coerced into fulfilling their traditional end of the contract, while being asked not to expect much in return from the other side. It's the "men should men should men should but women shouldn't necessarily" stage of things. Not much longer until men get fully beaten into the ground. Well, men on the lower end of the food chain, mostly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/24 06:18 PM |
| 1 | Does the "double standard" in promiscuity conclude, intentionally or not, that men are gross and disgusting & women are beautiful and desirable?Are men who slut shame actually doing a "self own" by implying their own gender makes people worse off & women make people better off as a result of sex? A pointless, irrelevant question born from your schizophrenic analogy. Are men who slut shame actually benefiting themselves? Yes. Do you agree with this idea? Do you think men should be thought of as gross and disgusting, and women should be thought of as the opposite? Sure. Women are free to not date promiscuous guys. The issue is, they keep … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/24 06:09 PM |
| 4 | To improve society, we must focus on helping both genders instead of hating one.Based. Have fun, I guess 😂. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/24 10:31 AM |
| 4 | To improve society, we must focus on helping both genders instead of hating one."nature's mechanism of self-defense" LMFAOOO this is literally all premeditated by fat rich people up there brother. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/24 10:31 AM |
| 1 | What do you think about "men like woman more than the other way around"?Let him fucking cook, actually. What a great response. However, societies cannot be built on this kind of behavior, when allowed to impose itself in fullest (methinks). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 07:11 PM |
| 12 | Which of these women would you date?Anita: avid Reddit user. I don't know who's top of the list, but I sure know who's at the bottom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 02:15 PM |
| 8 | Q4M: SlumpBusters - myth? Or reality?True. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 01:50 PM |
| 32 | Q4M: SlumpBusters - myth? Or reality?Not to be that guy, but hoe_math explained this pretty clearly in his clip called "zones". He called these types of women "sweepers". It's definitely a thing I've seen happen in my life as well, and it's an insanely dehumanizing thing to do to someone and most parameters surrounding the situation are concealed from the woman, while she's left to wonder if he really likes her or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 01:42 PM |
| 6 | It is great to be born a man.The meds!! Quickly, before he passes out!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 09:57 AM |
| 2 | What are PPD’s thoughts on Richard Reeves’ comment that childless and wifeless men comparatively “do terribly”?I agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 12:19 PM |
| 2 | What are PPD’s thoughts on Richard Reeves’ comment that childless and wifeless men comparatively “do terribly”?Less porn, less social media, healthier food, more of an accent on outdoor socialising as opposed to "league of legends nights", the list goes on. These things are so obvious and so easy to promote that it makes one wonder if there isn't actually a concrete interest behind letting men rot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 12:15 PM |
| 2 | The notion of a "female intuition" that can "sniff out desperation or misogyny" is completely idiotic and delusional.You proposed it was an issue of simple "excitement" and it being "boring" that you admire or give people flattery, when the truth is that admiration that comes from a place of value never, ever, ever gets boring. Likewise, the admiration of people you perceive as worthless is as worthless as they are. The correlation is almost direct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 11:37 AM |
| 4 | The notion of a "female intuition" that can "sniff out desperation or misogyny" is completely idiotic and delusional.Incorrect. It's because admiration and flattery are forms of investment. When you do either one of these, you invest in another person emotionally. The thing is, your investments are only as valuable as you are. First you acquire and demonstrate value, and then you invest it externally, so you can get other people on your side. All things with measure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 11:19 AM |
| 12 | The notion of a "female intuition" that can "sniff out desperation or misogyny" is completely idiotic and delusional.What's a real deal breaker is often being asocial, awkward, or just very submissive to her opinions and takes on everything (whipped). As long as you demonstrate self-sufficiency and that your personality can stand its ground against her charms, you can go ahead and be "evil" or "machiavellian" as much as you want because those aren't the true repellers (if anything, those are attractive when used correctly). The truly repulsive thing to be as a man is to lose mental ground in front of her attra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 10:18 AM |
| -1 | "Start holding other men accountable if you don't want us to feel this way"I'm afraid I just can't see anything you're talking about manifest in any online discourse, let alone real life. If you're gonna come up with such an egregious, downright schizophrenic take, you might as well make an effort and provide actual context instead of "it was revealed to me in a vision". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 11:49 PM |
| 1 | More women than men being perceived as "wonderful" and more men than women being perceived as "strong" or "powerful" isn't random. It makes logical sense.Women are being perceived as "wonderful" because men are conceptually enslaved to them, due to a much, much more pronounced sex drive. Men are also the sacrificial sex and the ones Mother Nature couldn't care less about, so they get to have all the "risk-taking" and "warrior" traits because Nature herself couldn't be arsed if most of them went ahead and died for the sake of the women. One guy could impregnate a whole village of women in a single day if he put his back into it. So men are natural… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 09:11 PM |
| 1 | Are the wrong men having to pay child support a result of the government having lost their balls?Amazing job, you have impeccably described why mandatory paternity tests at birth are not a thing. Congrats! 💅 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 08:59 PM |
| 1 | "Start holding other men accountable if you don't want us to feel this way"It's women being way way way too gracious to men. .... men they're attracted to. I see none of this grace in regards to uglier men, who get brutalized IRL and online for doing anything slightly immoral. It's always "just a mistake," "not his fault," "he can change," "he's good on the inside," "it was probably the woman's fault," "it wasn't that bad," "men do nothing wrong." Literally no one ever says this, you went full schizo on this one. Whenever there's discourse over a man harming a woman, h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 08:56 PM |
| 3 | Self improvement - is the lemon worth the sqeezeThat's up to them. Do they think it's worth it? Yes. Or do they think it's a waste of time? Then just quit improving in an attractiveness sense and mind your own business in life, or something. Men are the squeezers in this scenario, and they get to decide whether the juice is worth it or not. [ And as a paranthesis, there is barely any decent competition going on for older women. Literally just be somewhat decent, and you will get picked by one. It's not the same game as in the early 20s, when … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 09:52 PM |
| 3 | Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women.Of course. I was just using the typical expression that gets thrown around here to make a point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 06:04 PM |
| 1 | Insisting on the bad apples of each gender just makes discussion turn into bad-faith arguments.It's... over, I guess? Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 05:23 PM |
| 0 | Insisting on the bad apples of each gender just makes discussion turn into bad-faith arguments.Can you expand on this point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 05:17 PM |
| 2 | Insisting on the bad apples of each gender just makes discussion turn into bad-faith arguments.This is a tough case, but yes. It's hard to have any optimism about how dating can be positive without any personal positive reinforcement. I certainly don't blame a decent chunk of people for becoming bitter about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 05:16 PM |
| 2 | Insisting on the bad apples of each gender just makes discussion turn into bad-faith arguments.I hope you also agree with the idea that this would extend to both genders, not just to men. Otherwise, I mostly agree. This is a good point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 05:12 PM |
| 7 | Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women.It is not a woman’s job to teach little boys how to get his dick wet. No one insinuated this. I agree with the fact that it's not women's responsibility. Being nice and respectful is big part of getting a girlfriend for most people. Yes, but it's a half-truth. It's an incomplete piece of information, that could be added on with the other things men could do to make themselves more attractive. If I tell someone that the bare minimum is all they need, and the bare minimum isn't enough for them to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 02:57 PM |
| 3 | Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women.Correct. However, there could always be more honesty involved in the first place. Men often have to undo years and years of gaslighting from boomer mentalities drilled into them by adults, which wastes a lot of time and effort that could have been avoided. "No one is entitled to anything and you should make efforts to be more attractive" is objectively correct and useful advice, and should be given as early as possible, instead of the red herrings and lies often fed to men in their younger years… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 02:52 PM |
| 0 | Is Polygyny the future?You deliberately missed the point I was trying to make because you perceive it somehow disagrees with what you think of love. It's fine, I wasn't expecting any brightness from someone who speaks the way you do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 02:31 PM |
| 0 | Is Polygyny the future?because uh…. love? I was around this mental development level around 10 years ago. How I wish I could have remained that stupid, and not understood as much as I have. Alas, we ball. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 01:54 PM |
| 2 | Why men must never open up to women.That's very convinient. It seems like a huge help. Nice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 11:45 PM |
| 7 | Why men must never open up to women.You said bottling up and never breaking is far better. Nothing goes in or out without my permission. So where is the "going out" part of this? How do you disperse negative energy exactly? Do you maybe lift it away, or punch through concrete walls? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 11:06 PM |
| 11 | Why men must never open up to women.You get so good that you can deal with other people's meltdowns and they start relying on you. Considering this and the rest of your post, you might have turned yourself into an emotionless doll to protect yourself from pain. Respectable choice, but it takes away a lot of your enjoyment in regards to life, I believe. I don't think you enjoy things the way you used to, but now you are more resistant, aren't you? Seems like a decent trade-off. It also turns you into an emotional blackhole, so what… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 10:26 PM |
| 3 | Why are women allowed to have needs but men are always not entitled to a relationship?Oh, you're actually right. My bad. Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 10:12 PM |
| -2 | Why are women allowed to have needs but men are always not entitled to a relationship?No one is entitled to a relationship. No one is obligated to stay in a relationship. I fail to see how my point disagrees with this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 10:08 PM |
| 2 | Have you experienced mental illness in your dating life?being very open about if they are mentally ill, in therapy, or on medication That's very good. How much of it is legitimate, self diagnosed, or just made up for clout I couldn’t tell you. The willingness to at least be open about who you are and what issues you have is enough for a few cookie points, at least in my opinion. It's not easy to admit straight-up what the disadvantages to dating you are to someone else, and I appreciate if people are willing to communicate, even if they don't do so t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 10:06 PM |
| – | Have you experienced mental illness in your dating life?You sound just as mentally ill as the people you're describing. Maybe the relationships you get into are assortative. Anyway, have you experienced mental illness in your dating life? Have any interesting stories? No cases of documented mental illness, or people with formal diagnoses given to them, but I believe so. Anxiety, BPD, OCD and the like seem to be fairly common these days. People are probably more mentally ill than ever, at least where I live. It sucks that they're also good at conceali… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 09:27 PM |
| -5 | Why are women allowed to have needs but men are always not entitled to a relationship?These double standards are irrelevant, as there is no way to enforce them or apply them by any means. People will tell each other whatever they feel like, but reality has different plans for different individuals. Even if some women get temporarily alleviated by other women standing up for their entitlement, it'll quickly wash away in the face of real circumstances. In the end, it might be better to just face things like they are and adapt acordingly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 09:20 PM |
| 3 | I think some people don’t realize they don’t love their partner until they end the relationship and experience somebody they truly desireYou have missed the point entirely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 03:22 PM |
| 8 | I think some people don’t realize they don’t love their partner until they end the relationship and experience somebody they truly desireClaiming she's demisexual while going for a partner who is objectively more attractive in a conventional sense can indeed be considered an instance of hypocrisy, albeit there might be more at play. There is also the thing of me not knowing the whole picture, so I'm just making an assumption. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 12:43 PM |
| 9 | I think some people don’t realize they don’t love their partner until they end the relationship and experience somebody they truly desireshe also suspected she was kinda demi sexual she got together with a new guy, very tall and good looking Lol. Lmao, even. Disregarding this instance of hypocrisy, yes, that's simply how human relationships work. When you like someone, but then you like someone else more, because they bring more to the table in terms of desirable traits, then naturally "the spark" is going to start pointing itself towards the better, more desirable target. That's just life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 12:39 PM |
| 1 | The weakening of social bonds is underestimated as a factor in social trends in dating and marriage todayYou've upset the 45 year old playerbase of the sub, good luck dealing with them 🤣 As for this post, I mostly agree. None of this due to "social isolation" or "third spaces", like tradcons on the internet tell themselves. Even if "third spaces" were still prevalent, I guarantee you it wouldn't have much impact on dating; women will stay be Chad-only, and men won't dare approach Obviously true, but it would take a decent understanding of human psychology to understand how things work, something wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 09:55 AM |
| 22 | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?Men put their family ahead of their happiness, A whole lot of bullshit, and you should be well aware of it. The reason men cling so tightly to their relationships is not because they are wonderful, beautiful creatures that inherently love women and their families with every bit of their heart. More often than not, the reason is that most men seriously lack leverage in the dating market and can't afford to lose any catch they lay their hands on, so they end up over-investing to the point of self-… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 09:41 AM |
| 2 | There is nothing wrong with a man wanting 50/50 in a relationshipCorrect. That's just how things work. Annoying? Yes. Truthful? Also yes. Worth adapting to? Depends on the woman. like you’re auditioning just for her rather than it going both ways You're always free to aim lower or hop off if you don't want to bother with the perils of "climbing up", so to say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 08:56 PM |
| 2 | There is nothing wrong with a man wanting 50/50 in a relationshipOf course there isn't anything wrong with that. The only thing to consider here is that you'd have to bring things of value to the table, in order for such a relationship with you to be desirable. If she's got another dude outside the door willing to be her mattress, and you're in no particular way more attractive than him, then he's going to become the more efficient option. I also want to feel desired in a relationship The first step to achieving this would be to be a desirable person to the r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 08:48 PM |
| -1 | The most toxic form of femininity is women’s refusal to acknowledge or call out poor behavior from their own genderSurprising how you are from Eastern Europe and can't see how wrong you are. Men do care about each other, but they do so differently, in ways that sharpen each other's strength, to acquire bargaining power in the social world. If men cared about each other the way women cared about each other, they'd be killing their own leverage in the marketplace, but that's a lengthy discussion for another time when I'm in more of a mood. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 08:38 PM |
| 18 | Why do people get personally offended if they aren’t someone’s physical type?This extends far beyond the issue of being fat and thinking like this, and I agree. People often have the ambition of being liked for "who they are", while lusting after conventionally attractive people with superficially magnetic traits (hot bodies, status, popularity etc) Glaring hypocrisy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 08:34 PM |
| 6 | The most toxic form of femininity is women’s refusal to acknowledge or call out poor behavior from their own genderAnd this is why women tend to struggle with accountability and self improvement compared to men. The reason is simple. Women are, on average, allowed to get away with cowardice a lot more often than men are, because they possess value outside of what they could provide in terms of strength, stability and protection. The pressure to be "strong" and "tough" is a vector mostly applied onto men, as opposed to women, because more often than not, cowardly or otherwise weak men end up being downright w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 08:23 PM |
| – | You Weren't "Put In The Friendzone", You're Just A Shitty FriendI quote: << An ad populum fallacy occurs when we use an “argumentum ad populum” (Latin for “argument to the people”), meaning that we make an appeal to what most people think, like, or believe, instead of justifying our position with evidence. >> | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 03:02 PM |
| 6 | You Weren't "Put In The Friendzone", You're Just A Shitty FriendYou are arguing against a fictional strawman. I never specified any guilt towards any party, and was just trying to explain the phenomenon from an outside perspective. Did you skip over the word "unintentionally"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 02:38 PM |
| 7 | You Weren't "Put In The Friendzone", You're Just A Shitty FriendFrom a moral standpoint, I do agree. But here is the catch with real life, and the way things work in the real world: Mental health comes first. Always. Your mental health is the filter through which you experience and interact with the world. Sacrificing it for the sake of appeasing to other people is going to bite you back heavily in the future. Caring about others and working towards their happiness is perfect, but you have to be your number one priority, for the sake of your own perception o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 11:45 AM |
| 15 | You Weren't "Put In The Friendzone", You're Just A Shitty FriendAnd if you abandon your friend because they don't want to have sex with you, you are a bad friend. Some people might say "but I HAVE to abandon them, it hurts too much to NOT be able to have sex with them!" And... okay, I'm not dictating to you what your priorities should be. But to the Friend that YOU changed on, and decided you want to have sex with, you are a bad friend. Because you don't even LIKE having a friendship with them, and seem to think there's no other purpose to having a friendshi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 11:35 AM |
| 2 | Sexually unsuccessful men are like scientistsAre you really going to tell me that the majority of posters don’t make irrational black and white statements about the world all the time on this forum? You're welcome to give any examples so I can see the angle you're working from, since your answer yet again consists of generalizations and riddles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 11:20 AM |
| 2 | Sexually unsuccessful men are like scientists"Discuss" and then it's the worst point you've seen in your entire life. You complain about incels making generalizations, and then you proceed to generalize them by painting this schizophrenic picture of them built by your trips to reddit and shady corners of the internet. You have unknowingly encountered many "incels" in your life and, I can assure you, a lot of them were perfectly adjusted, reasonable people, not the carricatures you're trying to paint here. Being involuntarily celibate is sl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 09:30 AM |
| 6 | This is worth a watch, maybe the outlook on dating for men is perhaps too pessimisticWhere there is a want, there is a grifter. Such is life... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/24 03:37 PM |
| 31 | This is worth a watch, maybe the outlook on dating for men is perhaps too pessimisticCompelling argument. However, OBJECTION! Have you considered that fearmongering makes money for grifters? Huh? What about them? Do you want them to go starving? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/24 03:31 PM |
| 1 | If a relationship is transactional, it is not based on love."behaving in a way that's consistent with who you really are, what you really want, and how you really feel." Actually... yes. That is my definition as well. Thus, authenticity naturally leads to being predictable, doesn't it? If you act in such a way that makes you more predictable and less of a threat with hidden intentions, that leads to a feeling of safety around you, as people won't have to go the extra mile and dissect your behaviour to find out where the lies and inconsistencies are. This… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/24 03:21 PM |
| 1 | If a relationship is transactional, it is not based on love.Very good and insightful response, it's just that I think you and me have very different notions of what authenticity means. You have responded to a different definition of it. Still, insightful response. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/24 05:15 PM |
| 0 | If a relationship is transactional, it is not based on love.Bravo! Absolutely perfectly pointed out. That's just the name of the game. Even this desire people have for "authenticity" is, in fact, just a desire for consistency and maintaining ongoing transactions they have with other people. Dig deep enough into your most "intellectual, brilliant, beautiful and authentic" wishes and you will always find the superficial core of it, something as simple as 1 + 1 being equal to 2. I hope at least something like free will exists, in a "divine" sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/24 03:35 PM |
| 2 | What would you describe as a man repellent outfit, hair or makeup look?I don't believe there is such a thing. Men have incredibly varied takes on what makes a woman look good, as long as it's attached to someone who meets the attraction thresh-hold for the given guy in question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 12:20 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Men with exceedingly high libido and not willing to commit or who don’t like monogamy should marry/date gold diggersRelationships are transactional. If both parties put desirable things on the table, and they do so consistently, the agreement holds and the impulse to remain engaged in said transaction remains. It's as simple as that. There are other technicalities too, but they remain within the realm of logic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 11:59 AM |
| 0 | Is Polygyny the future?Because those resources are not freely granted to them. If they have the option of getting with a guy with resources just to make their lives easier and lessen the pressure, then why not? Under capitalism, men still have a use and can weaponize their resources to get women. The issue appears in a communist environment, where these resources are granted to women by the state/environment itself and not the men, in exchange for little to no effort from them. At that point men's ability to provide s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 11:36 AM |
| 1 | Is Polygyny the future?You are completely on the money, lol. Relationships are transactions of value, fundamentally. If women collectively don't need men's resources (in a future communist utopia) and they have free access to sex with top-tier men without the need to commit, then why would they get into monogamous relationships at that point? Why would they even care? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 09:16 AM |
| 15 | 95% women will not do anything for you, and why austistic men fail. Redpill and Bluepill are wrongI fail to see the point of this post. Who knows, I might be stupid, care to enlighten me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 03:49 PM |
| 10 | If you are not traditional, but you want traditional values, you are hypocrite. This goes for both Genders.People say "traditional" and then they describe whatever idealized personal definition of traditional they have. Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 03:00 PM |
| 22 | Men who expect the worst out of women: How would you know if you found an exception?I think it's less about psycho-analyzing potential partners, and more about women generally having a lot more leverage (appeal) than men do in the dating world. There is no "thinking" your way out of lacking leverage. Sometimes you will be left or betrayed solely because you lack it, and not because of tactical issues on your side. There is no negotiating attraction, and this applies throughout the relationship as well. Leverage has a tendency to win against a lack of itself, which is something … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 10:28 PM |
| -2 | 95% of bad Dating decisions by man (single moms, girls with several trauma which cheat on you) happen because those dudes have no options, the argument "they just love them" is manipulation and our society needs to stop with this. Be real.It's about compromises. People will glorify the moral compromises they make in regards to their partner because it's easier than admitting the truth. It also nets you in more social cookie points and makes you seem more like a victim, rather than someone who just "touched the stove and got burned" so to say. "I've pushed through the problems in our relationship because I sincerely loved her from the bottom of my heart and would do anything to keep her happy" sounds a lot better than "She is the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 01:54 PM |
| 2 | How would you summarise the new social contract for average men to follow, for average dating success?Of course. The buyer is on your side the moment you demonstrate empathy and know how to sugar-coat the product in the right places. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/24 09:49 PM |
| 1 | How would you summarise the new social contract for average men to follow, for average dating success?Yes. It just makes life more pleasant all-around for everyone involved. It's in the details. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/24 09:45 PM |
| 7 | How would you summarise the new social contract for average men to follow, for average dating success?I agree. Severely underestimated ability. I used to be the "can't wait to tell them the rational direct solution after they're done talking" dude. It was too late that I figured out what simply listening can do to help others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/24 09:36 PM |
| 8 | How would you summarise the new social contract for average men to follow, for average dating success?Interact with many kinds of different people (including people you are not too comfortable with) to get a subconscious taste of how to react in various social situations. Get used to women's company by interacting with them platonically in organic environments (in bars, clubs, organized events, volunteering etc). This structures your criteria for them, as you understand what kind of behaviours you like, don't like, tolerate, can't tolerate etc. Always be aware of what it is that you want from pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/24 09:08 PM |
| 12 | What are your unpopular opinions about dating, relationships, manosphere, or/and genders?We are all glad that your parents were amazing, it isn't the case for everyone. A rough early start can bomb the quality of your later life in subtle ways. Be educated, be emotionally available, have your money in order so you can raise the kid - it shouldn't be too unreasonable of a demand. Otherwise, keep the protection on. [This is my controversial take] | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 10:14 PM |
| 16 | What are your unpopular opinions about dating, relationships, manosphere, or/and genders?most people shouldn't have kids it's unfortunate how controversial this take is these days. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 09:24 PM |
| 5 | Let's share some examples of average-looking 20-something dudes?According to that TrueRateMe link, I'm probably between a 3 and a 3.5, I'd say. That's... fairly accurate, considering my circumstances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 09:22 PM |
| 12 | What are your unpopular opinions about dating, relationships, manosphere, or/and genders?Ignorance is bliss. I think people should treat dating knowledge less like a bible sequel, and more like a little guidebook you can look inside if things get confusing at a given point with someone else. Trying to find a consistent, logical, widely-applicable pattern to human behavior is destined to lead to insanity and more cluelesness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 09:10 PM |
| 1 | Would you trade your gender’s dating struggles?Controversial, I know, but I'd prefer to remain a man, despite how absolutely lackluster, terrible and worthless my personal life is. This response would take entire ages to write out, so I'll just leave my two cents on it: The experience of being seen as a woman through the eyes of a man is the single most terrifying thing nature has to offer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 07:48 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Women have it harder in dating"exhausting and frivolous" is a lot better than having no options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 06:10 PM |
| – | Are Situationships and Friend Zone the same thing but gender swapped?I agree. Not only that, but I would argue the "situationship" is a lot crueler and blinding than the "friendzone", because it creates the impression that you're aaaaaaaaaaalmost there, but you really aren't. lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 06:07 PM |
| 9 | CMV: Women have it harder in datingOne by one, whenever I have the time. Since there's hundreds of them, there should be no shortage of "oh, i'm kinda bored, why don't I try talking to one of them?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 05:50 PM |
| 10 | CMV: Women have it harder in datingimagine having 200 options lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 05:48 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Women have it harder in datingI would argue having to take time to vet men is nowhere near the level of things guys have to go through. Also, guys need to vet too(albeit in a different way), if they want a realtionship. It's generally advised not to dive into these things head first, man or woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 05:42 PM |
| 16 | Men put WAY too much stock on trying to get women.The only people who've ever worried about me, my whole life, through all the people I've met, family I've had, friends I've know, has been the women who fell in love with me. There just isn't a proxy for it. And even then, romance itself is isolated from the case of genuinely forming a connection with someone, because it features the transactional idea of attraction. You've mentioned you're tall and big, so no wonder you do decently with women. I suppose, somewhere inside, you know it wouldn't b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 05:32 PM |
| 2 | Don't make Untraditional Moves untill you've slept with herI agree. Good point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 02:10 PM |
| 1 | Don't make Untraditional Moves untill you've slept with herEdgy and otherwise hilarious post, but I think I can see where you're coming from. I've had friends of varying ages pull these "asshole tricks" on women, and they seem to be working pretty well. Guys who wanted to treat them well and over-invested at the beginning, only to find that telling women "tougher" stuff and being bluntly honest helps a lot more in gaining attraction. The bottom line is that too much investment is a shout from the rooftop to her subconscious mind that you're engaging in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 01:34 PM |
| 12 | "Beta bux" is a myth and being "cool" is still very important even past age 30Honestly, good for them. It's easy to view the world as sunshines and rainbows when you've got it good. This poster is probably living an enjoyable life. I'm happy for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 01:10 PM |
| – | Q4W: How do good hookups get around dehumanization?As a woman, some men are going to love you "meaningfully", because they are very attracted to you and find you desirable, valuable and worth keeping around. However, some men are not going to love you "meaningfully" and will instead be superficial about it, because you are simply not good enough to hit whatever criteria they have. Attractive men tend to have higher threshholds. Unattractive men tend to have lower threshholds. It's not rocket science. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 02:05 PM |
| 3 | Are these situations proof that women can have dual mating strategy?Yes. It's about making a calculated sacrifice. Less attraction, however also less of a chance to get attached or to have it backfire on you. There are degrees to this, of course. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 02:02 PM |
| – | Q4W: How do good hookups get around dehumanization?All "dehumanizatiom" means in this context is treating your sexual partner like trash, lol. You don't have to know anything about a person to "humanize" them, it's all about basic respect such as backing off if they're uncomfortable, not being too rough if they don't like it, not being a pushy asshole etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 01:39 PM |
| 5 | Are these situations proof that women can have dual mating strategy?A number of women enjoy casual sex. Also, a number of women are able to engage in said casual sex with men they are not very attracted to. Think of it like them going "meh, at least I'm getting my rocks off". I agree with the general consensus that super attractive dudes get a lot of no-strings casual sex, but consider the other women who: 1) deliberately go for lower attractiveness so they don't get attached. 2) literally just have a lower baseline level of attractiveness for casual sex and sim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 01:29 PM |
| 1 | Do "Chads" really don't have any feelings for their lays?are they chads because they're the most attractive or are they the most attractive because they're chads? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 12:51 PM |
| 0 | Red pillers see women as dishonest / out to get them / subhuman / only good for sex, because due to RPers own behavior / attitudes, they only attract bottom-tier, psychologically damaged women, which then reinforces their attitudes and causes them to attract even more of the same in an endless loop.I agree, my phrasing of things can suck. English isn't my first language, so things could come across differently from how I wanted them to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Red pillers see women as dishonest / out to get them / subhuman / only good for sex, because due to RPers own behavior / attitudes, they only attract bottom-tier, psychologically damaged women, which then reinforces their attitudes and causes them to attract even more of the same in an endless loop.Respecting women as human beings is a fundamental to being a decent person, it does not guarantee a relationship, has anyone actually told you that? I completely agree. Where did I insinuate otherwise? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 03:36 PM |
| 2 | Red pillers see women as dishonest / out to get them / subhuman / only good for sex, because due to RPers own behavior / attitudes, they only attract bottom-tier, psychologically damaged women, which then reinforces their attitudes and causes them to attract even more of the same in an endless loop.No one awesome has ever been rp. Just losers. It'd be so easy for a successful guy to come out and say he's rp. Thus, no guy has, so there aren't any." His roundies down there are kept empty and he has a loving family. He will submit to whatever narrative he must as long as he is satisfied. Plus, it's a lot more relaxing to have a "life is good, all is fair" mentality when you can afford to. The issue is, the unsatisfied people on the other side of the fence have their own freedom to do the same… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 02:59 PM |
| 0 | Red pillers see women as dishonest / out to get them / subhuman / only good for sex, because due to RPers own behavior / attitudes, they only attract bottom-tier, psychologically damaged women, which then reinforces their attitudes and causes them to attract even more of the same in an endless loop.I see. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 02:51 PM |
| 3 | Red pillers see women as dishonest / out to get them / subhuman / only good for sex, because due to RPers own behavior / attitudes, they only attract bottom-tier, psychologically damaged women, which then reinforces their attitudes and causes them to attract even more of the same in an endless loop.Can you please expand on what "hating women" means for you, since it seems to be your main complaint? For example, if someone said: "Women love strong, dominant, charismatic dudes", would that be a hateful comment towards them? Also, please expand on this quote from yourself too Red pillers are actively trying to make the world worse for everyone. That's where I have a problem. How so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 02:24 PM |
| 4 | Red pillers see women as dishonest / out to get them / subhuman / only good for sex, because due to RPers own behavior / attitudes, they only attract bottom-tier, psychologically damaged women, which then reinforces their attitudes and causes them to attract even more of the same in an endless loop.Yes, you do. An ideology is a system of beliefs or ideals meant to accomodate you. Technically, ideologies are part of everyone's life, at almost any given moment. They are part of the larger scheme of "purpose". Also, what makes the ideology "weird", if I may ask? Guy sucks and is unattractive. Guy views redpill content. Guy incorporates aspects of it into his life. Guy's quality of life improves. There is nothing "weird" here. Red pillers aren't doing anything to improve themselves though, not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 02:20 PM |
| 17 | Red pillers see women as dishonest / out to get them / subhuman / only good for sex, because due to RPers own behavior / attitudes, they only attract bottom-tier, psychologically damaged women, which then reinforces their attitudes and causes them to attract even more of the same in an endless loop.Notice how you yourself are a former red piller, but now that you're married, possibly living a good life with a wife [and kids], you've hit a plateau in terms of romantic satisfaction and don't need to bother yourself with any "ideologies" anymore. And what happens then is you start to look down at all the other "belowers" competing in the market and doing whatever they can to find a partner and progress romantically. Once again, a symptom of your arrogance due to your perceived position on the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 02:09 PM |
| 7 | A 90% women and 10% men world would be betterYou went right for the jugular, lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 07:25 PM |
| 0 | Paternity Tests Should Be Destigmatized. Why do you think Women are still so against it? Is it Paternity Fraud reasons?Keep bringing up the word "trust", I am immune to this sort of gaslighting. Once again, men deserve to know whether their children are theirs with 100% certainty. Not the "I trust my wife who is a human being and can lie" kind of certainty, but the paternity test kind of certainty. I've seen too many people suffer at the hand of this magical "trust" to buy into it. It's a particularly sensitive topic for me. It's fine to trust, and it's great to be precautious as well. Such is life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 03:21 PM |
| 1 | Am I wrong going off on a girl that has a bf for messaging me first and asking me personal questions?There's probably a chance she was just trying to make friends. Regardless, she should've made that clear, if her boyfriend is difficult to find on her profile. I think you reacted well but the circumstance seems unfortunate, just cut contact atp. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 03:09 PM |
| -1 | Paternity Tests Should Be Destigmatized. Why do you think Women are still so against it? Is it Paternity Fraud reasons?Whenever this discussion comes up, I just start laughing, honestly. There is no logical reason why paternity tests shouldn't be something that happens instantly after the child is born in 100% of the cases. Make it be something mandatory, not something fathers have to demand, then the issue of "trust" will be nonexistent 😂 "No, honey, it's not that I don't trust you. See, the government made it mandatory for paternity tests to be made after birth, I didn't demand it personally 😉" Everything else… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 03:00 PM |
| – | Bear discourse has show us women dont care about the results. Women care about the feeling.Choosing the bear is simply racist. The average man is named "Muhammed", so that's statistically who they're saying no to being alone with. Maybe women are just islamophobes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 12:24 PM |
| – | The Struggles of Gen Z Men: Facing Economic and Relationship Realities in the Modern WorldThe Party was trying to kill the sex instinct, or, if it could not be killed, then to distort it and dirty it. I see. An attempt to kill Mother Nature, so to say, to find a way forward for humanity. I guess someone up there realized that humanity was bound to be stuck in the same cycle forever and ever up to its destruction, until the impulse for sex was dealt with in a way that wouldn't extinguish us. Nature lead humanity to adapt through principles, said principles lead to progress, advancemen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 12:17 PM |
| 3 | Why does it seem women are a little more pushy with marriage than men?Chief, women don't need to commit for sex (in a general sense) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 12:01 PM |
| – | The Struggles of Gen Z Men: Facing Economic and Relationship Realities in the Modern WorldThe separation of men and women, the "gender war", is an inevitable (albeit slow-paced) conclusion of women's emancipation. It's glaringly obvious that most women want nothing to do with most men, and the only "glue" sticking them together in conservative environments was women's lack of basic rights, among which was, crucially, their financial dependence on men. Plenty of men out there who's only avenue to getting a relationship is "making bank" or "providing safety and stability". What happens… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 12:00 PM |
| -7 | Why does it seem women are a little more pushy with marriage than men?Because it hasn't been that long since women were oppressed. The female brain is still adapting to modern reality, and the fragments of their grim past still exist within. For now. (there is also the issue of thirsty men's aggression, but ir's slowly being dealt with, as men are being sedated...) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 11:10 AM |
| 14 | Why does it seem women are a little more pushy with marriage than men?Historically, men's primary incentive to get into a marriage has been consistent access to sex. You say your friends are doing fine in the "hookup" department, so that might be it. Their little things down there are empty, so the reasons to marry are next to none. Women become more attuned to the idea of marriage later on because of that "dual mating strategy" thing the redpillers are talking about. Along with their attractiveness, their leverage is going down and the "clock" starts ticking. The… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 11:05 AM |
| – | Young women's view of their own maturity is highly overrated and sometimes narcissisticIn the context of younger women, the mythical idea of "maturity" is stuck inside Schrodinger's box. It simultaneously exists and doesn't exist, depending on who you ask and at what point in their life you are asking them. There are 2 opposing realities within said box, which are meant to collide against each other: "Yes, younger women are more mature than younger men because the female brain [somehow magically] develops faster than the male brain, so they are entitled to look in older age bracke… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 02:56 PM |
| 4 | Men hold all the “power” in dating/relationshipsI need to know what substances you're on man, you write like someone who's high on that good shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 09:52 AM |
| 3 | What do you think of this guy's POV on the constraints of masculinity?Yes, the string obviously leads to women. It's why people parrot the sentiment that it's up to them to make men feel included, but it's a bad assessment at the end of the day, since women shouldn't be coerced into hanging around guys they literally don't like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 10:30 PM |
| 5 | The red pill has gained momentum because a bunch of mid guys who are mad they won't be first choice are trying to logic women into being attracted to them.It doesn't matter what they request from the women or from anyone, for that matter. These unattractive men have 0 bargaining power since they have no desirability. Men are slowly being checkmated. More or less of a good set of news, depending on who you are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 10:19 PM |
| 1 | Most Beta/BP traits that RP looks down on are beneficial for society or harmlessTrue. At least a nuclear bomb will drop on top of the world map before some "warlord" comes in and "enslaves" anyone, so who cares lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 10:17 PM |
| 2 | What do you think of this guy's POV on the constraints of masculinity?I agree. It's not about "seeming gay", it's about society actively discarding/belittling men who show any weakness. A man who is both physically unattractive and unmanly/weak is a man who is going to lose out on a lot of social rewards, from the platonic world to the dating world. Women get away with weakness at a much more consistent rate than men do because they are inherently valuable. If a guy is ugly, and on top of that a weakass loser, then what is his value exactly? None. And people will … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 10:13 PM |
| 4 | Most Beta/BP traits that RP looks down on are beneficial for society or harmlessBoth the dating market and the general economic market of the western world are engaging in capitalism. When both kinds of capitalism are running together, individualism runs rampant and things deteriorate at a much faster rate on both fronts. "A few decades" seems like the most optimistic yet realistic time-limit until a substantial decline. For now, things are semi-alright. For now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 10:04 PM |
| 10 | Most Beta/BP traits that RP looks down on are beneficial for society or harmlessBeneficial for society on a wider, systematic scale, but what do THEY get out of it? It's an age of individualism and subtle competitions between people. Men can't really afford to be good little Billy's at this point, unless they want to get divorced, betrayed, back-stabbed, forgotten etc... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 09:58 PM |
| 1 | The red pill has gained momentum because a bunch of mid guys who are mad they won't be first choice are trying to logic women into being attracted to them.The sort of masculinity that either discards other people's comfort or downright infringes on their safety and stability by exerting your own strength over them (more or less directly, manipulation also counts as an infringement). The "positive" masculinity would be the kind of force that acts against what I mentioned in the first paragraph, in a protective way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 07:57 PM |
| 6 | The red pill has gained momentum because a bunch of mid guys who are mad they won't be first choice are trying to logic women into being attracted to them.Is one only is after ONS, or adding notches to his n-count he’ll have to be outstandingly attractive, and no book, theory, pill, guru can help if the genes weren’t good in first place I disagree, to a large extent. Masculinity and social skills can indeed be very effective at getting ONS consistently if you're not a literal troglodyte or incredibly short (so yes, your "gene" argument does play a part here). In this regard, "redpill" theory can help quite a bit. Women are keen to reward being str… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 05:03 PM |
| 22 | The red pill has gained momentum because a bunch of mid guys who are mad they won't be first choice are trying to logic women into being attracted to them.If that's what they need to hear, then so be it. You try to phrase this as basic advice, but is has nothing to do with what the bluepill is preaching. This is redpilled advice, as the "redpill" itself is what brought these things forward and proposed actual, tangible solutions (even if some of them sound machiavellian) Were it after bluepillers, they would have just given these struggling men a pat on the back and an "you're not entitled to anything" quote. It's the good old debate tactic of "I'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 03:45 PM |
| 69 | The red pill has gained momentum because a bunch of mid guys who are mad they won't be first choice are trying to logic women into being attracted to them.This sounds defeatist. Why wouldn't men make an attempt to understand dating dynamics and adapt? Of course unattractive people want to become more attractive, so they look around, see what happens and adapt accordingly. Gymming, grooming, developing social skills, spotting red flags, yada yada. I agree with the sentiment that over-engaging with "manosphere" material is unhealthy and leads to obsessiveness, but there is still some truth to it when it comes to sparking and maintaining attraction. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 03:14 PM |
| 2 | Most men are not friends with their girlfriends/wivesAssuming you're right and aren't wearing any colored glasses, then their guy choice might be the issue. What kind of guys do they try to date? Who do they sleep with? If there is a pattern, there is an issue. And if there is an issue, they can do something about it. Just saying 🤷♀️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 11:32 AM |
| 2 | Women know how to put in effort but chose not to."Men are far easier and require less to be in a relationship", one of the most dogshit and yet constantly regurgitated statements I keep seeing recently. First off, you need to take into account the main criteria through which men choose romantic/sexual partners: looks. As long as the woman hits the looks criteria, the average man can tolerate a looooooot of stuff. You can see this in how varied men's "preferences" in women are personality-wise, even online: goth chicks, e-girls, hello kitty gir… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 11:27 AM |
| 4 | Most men are not friends with their girlfriends/wivesHave said women you are talking about tried being more sociable/interesting/fun to talk to? To become one of "the boys", one might need to possess the ability to be fun to hang around (without sexual influence). If said women have done their best to be interesting and their partners somehow still put them on the backburner (or in the "gf box"), then it might be time to end things. Not every guy is a misogynist; sometimes the woman herself is, frankly, just boring beyond being a girlfriend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 11:01 AM |
| 6 | Would prostitution be accepted if customers admitted to it more often?It is. Until they might get hooked, and start "visiting" a bit too often. If he keeps himself in check, makes sure no STDs are involved and doesn't get addicted to this, it might be fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 02:17 AM |
| 22 | Would prostitution be accepted if customers admitted to it more often?It would simply become one of the many drugs men get bored of as they engage with it more and more. For lonely/sexless/autistic men, the real solution goes way beyond the flesh tango. Sex's primary value to most men isn't the physical activity in itself, but the associated self-esteem and validation boosts you get from feeling desired. Though, I guess something like paid sex can be useful, albeit temporarily, if you go about it correctly... so idk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 02:06 AM |
| 4 | Where is the current dating disaster headed? It can’t possibly sustain itself for much longer, and women only seem to be getting more delusionâl.Under the influence? Concentrated alcohol, perhaps? No, you're writing too well. You're high, methinks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 01:59 AM |
| 1 | If you’re white male, move to an Asian country ASAPHow endowed were the women in said region financially? If they were from a poor area... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 01:56 AM |
| 6 | Where is the current dating disaster headed? It can’t possibly sustain itself for much longer, and women only seem to be getting more delusionâl.Schizo comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 01:53 AM |
| 1 | Do you consider the current dating model to be sustainable? (includes religious tangent)Yes, I agree with your point. Things are only getting better and better for women, as their need for commitment is likely to go down in time, as both society and they themselves make sure they are provided for and secure. With regards to men, may whatever deity bless them in the future, cause they're not gonna like it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Do you consider the current dating model to be sustainable? (includes religious tangent)Commitment/relationships are only as valuable as what they have to provide. Think of it like money. Money itself is only valuable because it can lead to buying things, with said things being the central value. The money itself is irrelevant. Same with relationships. Men and women generally tend to seek relationships for different reasons. Systematically, men sought them for consistent access to the sexy stuff, and women sought them for consistent access to resources, attention and status of valu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 09:09 PM |
| 4 | Do you consider the current dating model to be sustainable? (includes religious tangent)Interesting read. However, Letting go of private property, consider the groups offsprings as the groups future fitness and invest collectively in them, regardless of biological relatedness. This would require smaller groups. This would be impossible, given the current stance. Males will not participate in any "collective raising" program if they don't have consistent sexual access to the women or any guarantee they're actually fathering any children. (if no one is willing to mate with you, you k… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 03:59 PM |
| 5 | Do you consider the current dating model to be sustainable? (includes religious tangent)I don't have any clue who you're talking about, I'm sorry. Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 02:21 PM |
| 1 | Do you consider the current dating model to be sustainable? (includes religious tangent)I suppose so. It's exactly what I was talking about during my post too. In a general sense, if men hit the "starvation" point, then it'll be bad. Starved people often take drastic measures, be they dropping out or something else. The numbers can be ignored for now, things are still mostly fine. As you said, the problem comes later. And it's gonna suck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 12:07 AM |
| 1 | Do you consider the current dating model to be sustainable? (includes religious tangent)Great read. I'm supposing you're on the "enjoy the decline" side of things, then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 12:02 AM |
| 5 | Do you consider the current dating model to be sustainable? (includes religious tangent)Anyone favors capitalism whenever it benefits them. This can obviously fluctuate in people's lives depending on the stage they're at. When you're winning the game, you don't care about bothering yourself with the optics or looking "down" to see what the others are doing. Life is good, all is fair, just world fallacy etc. It's only when you're "down", so to say, that you look up and desire a way to take leverage for yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/24 11:52 PM |
| -1 | Do you consider the current dating model to be sustainable? (includes religious tangent)I suppose there is a "chaos factor" here, too. Who knows what Andrew Tate sequel will rise from his ashes and push men to engage in "cataclysmic" solutions. Undesirable for the sake of society's stability, but still somewhat possible for any anarchists out there, I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/24 11:49 PM |
| -1 | Do you consider the current dating model to be sustainable? (includes religious tangent)Not proposing that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/24 11:45 PM |
| 6 | Do you consider the current dating model to be sustainable? (includes religious tangent)I am not proposing anything. This sort of communism would likely involve the oppression of women, which I am vehemently against, personally. It's precisely because I'm confused that I made this post. I expected someone to enlighten me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/24 11:44 PM |
| -2 | Do you consider the current dating model to be sustainable? (includes religious tangent)I completely agree with your post. Frankly, this might be what awaits, imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/24 11:39 PM |
| -3 | Do you consider the current dating model to be sustainable? (includes religious tangent)"The data really sucks when i don't like it but here is this article made by swamp-dwellers with 0 proof that is true because I agree with it" Farewell partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/24 11:37 PM |
| -1 | Do you consider the current dating model to be sustainable? (includes religious tangent)This sub hasn't been posting dating graphs for the past years for yall to always ask for links when you're unable to form an argument. Once again, you and your friends are not representative of anything general. As Carol would say, "Look at the numbers, Lizzie". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/24 11:35 PM |
| 18 | Do you consider the current dating model to be sustainable? (includes religious tangent)People tend to naturally gravitate towards whatever mindset will benefit them the most. It's fairly normal that most guys (particularly the unattractive ones) tend to be "dating communists" and women tend to be "dating capitalists". Attractive people want sexual capitalism because they get to capitalize on their leverage, unattractive people want to equalize the playing field through sexual communism. Kind of obvious. Many economical tangents can be drawn from here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/24 11:32 PM |
| 1 | Do you consider the current dating model to be sustainable? (includes religious tangent)I would advise reading up on existing data. It's a lot more effective than "oh but me and my friends are dating". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/24 11:27 PM |
| 0 | Do you consider the current dating model to be sustainable? (includes religious tangent)I agree, "currently" being the key word here. I was talking about the tendency for it to head in a worse place, with time. Basic medicine tells us that it's better to prevent than to treat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/24 11:22 PM |
| 3 | Do you consider the current dating model to be sustainable? (includes religious tangent)I agree that entertainment being a lot more developed than in the past helps to a degree, but it's only a small bandaid on a gaping wound. Said wound is still festering, just somewhat slower. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/24 11:21 PM |
| 12 | Men should do what they want, not what women want them to dowe did it reddit nation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/24 01:37 PM |
| 8 | Are women aware of how men adjust their behavior to appease them?What is the purpose of this post? Where is this discussion headed exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/24 03:42 PM |
| – | What do you think it is about avoidant, "emotionally unavailable" men that makes them so intoxicating to, what seems like, the vast majority of women?Crazy good translation. It's sensical that some manipulators dislike seeing their tools being ineffective. Especially with people who haven't really experienced pushback in their life, so they get defensive when the world doesn't spin around their emotions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/24 12:36 PM |
| 5 | To the men here who believe relationships = friendships + sexI would say here relationships are friends + fuckin' + commitment, so you can maintain consistency in the "friends + fuckin" department No commitment, no relationship. By your principle, the situationships people get themselves stuck in can be counted as genuine relationships 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/24 07:00 AM |
| -3 | A case for marrying an older man. Interesting article and its interpretation from a Red pill lens.The bottom line is that having leverage when it comes to dating is the single most important thing. Be it attractiveness, or simply minimizing the need for love otherwise (rich life, cool hobbies, great friends etc). Women are free to date/try to date whoever they want, especially when they're young and have more leverage. Just don't go around complaining later that other, younger women are coming up from behind and reaping the benefits you used to reap as well. There are few things I find more … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 01:48 PM |
| -2 | Women complaining about men only valuing their bodies do not realise how boring the average woman is. Men being Homosocials is only logical.You triggered a lot of grassphobics with this post, but I believe you are right. I think men tend to develop much better social skills than women do because they actually NEED to, and it's something they figure out early on in life. Most guys don't have most women's privilege of being able to play life reactively and still reap social rewards, and thus they adapt. It's why you see tons of guys running around making friends with people just about anywhere, having fun, laughing, interacting etc. A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 11:43 AM |
| 5 | Why do women's dating frustrations match with what I experience irl?I agree. Even so, what's the point of blaming a systematic issue in this case? Is any deity going to come down and bless you because you've realized this cultural decadence exists? The answer is no. At the end of the day, all we've got a hold on dating-wise is ourselves and our own decisions. Maybe we can throw in a bit of advice for friends and acquaintances too, but that's about it. The reason trashy people are trashier than ever is because we are an insanely superficial generation of hedonist… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 10:29 PM |
| 5 | Why do women's dating frustrations match with what I experience irl?They end up with "shithead men" because these guys compensate in a department that exists outside of being a good person. Be it that they're strong, handsome, stimulating, yada yada. Which is also true for men, who end up often going for women with terrible personalities. Because said women make up for it otherwise. There is no such thing as "deserving" when it comes to dating. You either possess enough attractive traits to light the spark in their brain, or you don't. Simple as that. Your kindn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 09:59 PM |
| 18 | Why do women's dating frustrations match with what I experience irl?It's the whole "great thing the good guys always won every war" shtick. When people narrate their bad experiences with others, they are very, very likely to leave out their own wrong-doings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 09:31 PM |
| 39 | Why do women's dating frustrations match with what I experience irl?Clean cut. Literally just google "Apex fallacy" OP lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 09:27 PM |
| 3 | What should men do to vet if a woman is safe to be vulnerable with?I can respect that, but even this is a risk itself. It alludes to having to make sure nothing terrible ever happens in your life, so you don't end up sad or exhausted in front of your woman, because in this case she is going to leave you, or something. And in this case you take a double hit, from both her and your situation. Personally, I can't imagine being with a woman who's commitment to me is a time-bomb, just waiting to explode the second I go through a rough patch and show weakness. And of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 09:20 PM |
| 3 | What should men do to vet if a woman is safe to be vulnerable with?That must have been terrible. Going to war or being sent off to politically unstable places to participate in conflicts as a soldier is mental slaughter. The truth is that not every traumatic event can be worked through, and your mental capacity can only take so much. The general therapeutic narrative is that everything can be solved, but I am not of the same opinion. Severe, prolonged impacts can and will permanently damage your brain, at least from what I've seen. It's why having supportive pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 05:14 PM |
| 14 | What should men do to vet if a woman is safe to be vulnerable with?😂 I wholeheartedly relate to this. It's why I make efforts to not invest too much before people prove they deserve to be invested in, consistently. Life is all about risks, but I'd much rather take a calculated one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 04:46 PM |
| 2 | What should men do to vet if a woman is safe to be vulnerable with?I sympathize with this. The cards are on the table, but no one's telling you how to play the game. Such is life. Trial and error... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 04:42 PM |
| 3 | What should men do to vet if a woman is safe to be vulnerable with?Respectable. Thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 04:16 PM |
| 5 | What should men do to vet if a woman is safe to be vulnerable with?Women often have this obsession with over-analyzing guys at first to do a risk assessment and keep themselves safe from harm. I think this is fine in itself. The issue lies in HOW you open up, WHAT you open up about and how much pressure you are applying on her with said information. Telling a girl you feel bad when people ignore you in social situations is a different kind of pressure from telling her about your whole hypothetical family that died in a car accident and expecting her to put up w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 04:14 PM |
| 5 | What should men do to vet if a woman is safe to be vulnerable with?No problem. If I may ask, what is this "white pill" thing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 04:04 PM |
| 5 | What should men do to vet if a woman is safe to be vulnerable with?I agree, to an extent. I don't intend to drop emotional boulders on my partners, because then I'd be an asshole. Overbearing people are exhausting. But, as my partner, they'd have to bear at least SOME things with me, or else I'd just be stuck in a home with another of the many sources of stress in my life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 04:01 PM |
| 9 | What should men do to vet if a woman is safe to be vulnerable with?Tolerating breadcrumbs is a classic mistake, even as a desperate guy. You think to yourself "hey, at least I'm getting something, right??" That momentary satsifaction will go off in the wind soon, as you realize that the pressure being applied on your mental health is not worth the very few moments of pleasure, and the scale starts to break. It's sort of like a deal with the devil. It starts from "i'm so glad she's at least paying a bit of attention to me", then it swiftly transitions to "oh my … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 03:54 PM |
| 11 | What should men do to vet if a woman is safe to be vulnerable with?But the real question is... Why do you need a woman for this shit anyway? I feel like none of you have male friends, and are putting all this stuff that should be in a male friendship onto women. I am not going to live together with an emotional leech. If we're talking about a relationship, she will have to hit the platonic criteria of being supportive and helpful, otherwise she is just a mental parasite. My partner is supposed to be my friend as well, not a mind-game I have to go through to ext… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 03:46 PM |
| 17 | What should men do to vet if a woman is safe to be vulnerable with?You are human, and thus you will be vulnerable at some point, especially towards your partner, who you spend time with. Pretending to be something you are not is just setting your own time on fire, as your natural traits will come to light regardless. If you are afraid to show weakness, do not worry, because you'll show it regardless eventually. I'd much rather skip the bullshit and save up on my time. Is she willing to be helpful and supportive (as long as I'm not overbearing) or not? That's th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 03:38 PM |
| 31 | What should men do to vet if a woman is safe to be vulnerable with?Absolutely. The honeymoon stage passes, but their baseline treatment of people doesn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 03:33 PM |
| 104 | What should men do to vet if a woman is safe to be vulnerable with?Simple. Be vulnerable from the get-go, and display yourself openly. Do they react well? Alright, keep going. Do they scowl and only twist the knife deeper? Walk away. A lot of time gets saved up with this method. Incredibly valuable resource. Also prevents you from having to play mind-games. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 03:11 PM |
| 8 | Misogyny on the InternetI think you're going off the other end a little. I understand that misogyny sucks, but villainizing men who have to adapt to this new age of dating isn't going to do wonders in getting them to listen to you. People generally dislike being villainized, and they really like it when they're feeling listened to. Admittedly, it IS likely harder for them to get girlfriends than it was for their fathers, or especially their grandfathers, when these things just sort of happened and people got coupled of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 03:06 PM |
| 0 | Misogyny on the InternetEven this general sense of victimhood will have its end. It isn't sustainable, and you can only wallow in pity for so long before you drown in the regret of lost time and start acting. Attraction is built on desirable traits. If you want people to be attracted to you, make efforts towards acquiring said desirable traits. Be insightful, funny, sociable, charming, handsome, pretty, whatever it is you can work towards. We are all players in the poker game of life and dealt random hands. I believe p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 02:41 PM |
| 7 | Misogyny on the InternetI mean, isn't this literally redpilled rhetoric? It kind of goes like this: You are unattractive, thus you lack leverage. If you want to increase your leverage, put in the work and develop desirable traits. Done. You are now as attractive as you can be. Also, what is this "government support" even supposed to do? Might as well just tell them to "suck it up nerds, get to work" like all the redpill gurus do, since that will actually yield tangible rewards for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 02:13 PM |
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