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It's mostly a personal preference but things do matter. 1) you should desire him and want to sleep with him. Healthy sex life. 2) if you find a lot of men more attractive than your husband, that's not good long term. The real red pill answer is you want to have genuine burning desire for him. In practice, I've heard of many women describe that type of man on the order of 1 in 1000, which is not practical or a realstic goal. So where exactly you fall is about preference, but I would say be very m…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/26 05:56 PM
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Overall, I think you were asking for normal boundaries and not getting them. It sounds to me like your husband doesn't respect you. In moments where he should adjust for you and stand up for you... he doesn't. He also has a pattern of lying/gaslighting you. Then you broke up, which indicates that he's over it and he thinks the marriage wasn't worth fighting for. He also appears to have an immature/toxic friend group. I mean, I can only comment on what you've presented. No question there's other …
/r/RedPillWomen26/06/26 11:15 PM
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All attention pays, whether positive or negative.
/r/RedPillWomen12/06/26 03:29 PM
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How about zero tolerance? Sounds like a good number. Is the general expectation that red pill men are also physically abusive to a “disobedient” woman? He stated that that was a “correction” for expressing my frustration when he didn’t care to experience that. Red pill is not a euphemism for someone who is a massive piece of shit that should be in jail.
/r/RedPillWomen08/06/26 05:26 PM
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I think I would start with a different question first. What are you looking for in a man? (vet for... what?)
/r/RedPillWomen31/05/26 05:35 PM
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I'm not sure where you got the notion that foregoing education makes a woman more attractive. My post certainly didnt say that. The distinction is that women value education & wealth in men very highly, but the reverse is not true. They are not near the top of men's preferences. It's not the focus, but it doesnt mean foregoing them increases a woman's SMV- it's that focusing on what I listed above will differentiate her in ways to increase her SMV in the eyes of men. Fit woman, middle manager vs…
/r/RedPillWomen26/02/26 02:47 PM
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I wrote about this awhile ago and I'll share it here: You don't need high professional qualifications to attract a HVM. A major component of the HVM is that he's got the finances taken care of. Take a guy making $250k, he can buy anything he desires. If he's looking for a companion in life he wants a woman to complement his life in ways that money cannot buy. This comes down to 1) Physical Attractiveness and 2) Personality, which I'll break down further. For an STR, 80% of the equation is how at…
/r/RedPillWomen26/02/26 04:22 AM
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Dating younger is not inherently a problem and it could open doors to other things you value, but dating young men in their fboy years is risky. Early 20s men are not thinking of settling down and have all the time in the world to waste yours. If you were 33 and he was 28 then sure whatever. But men <=25 can easily make decisions to your detriment. It could work, but tread carefully. Your post outlined a few things for me: You date men based primarily on their job and partly their looks You thin…
/r/RedPillWomen20/02/26 06:51 AM
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I mean, people can arrange things however they'd like but... Typically the man pursues and flies to you (safest for you). Else, he can pay to fly you there if that's his request. You bear the risk. It's a bit weird to request that an acquaintance (you) spends $1,000. He should pay. If this is your idea, you'd pay. And you'd probably be deeper into a relationship if that were the case. Alternatively, both travel to meet somewhere else.
/r/RedPillWomen18/02/26 01:39 AM
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It's unorthodox, but the math forces it. If women make half the money, they can't all date men who make 50% more. The trend is more women having higher income than the man. What's she going to do, pursue the top 0.01% of men? The type of men who have access to 99% of women? What makes her so special? I promise that a woman being in the top 1% of income does not put her in the top 1% of SMV. Are those men actually a catch, or does having access to 99% of women bring out bad traits in men?
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/26 05:12 PM
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But since you mentioned, I make 600K+ a year and the men I meet typically make a 1M+. I have priced myself out of the dating market, which makes me feel like it is a curse to be a woman. Would you date a man who makes a fraction of what you do? E.g. 100k. If you were to have children, would you be okay with the man raising the children while you work (SAHD)?
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/26 03:48 PM
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I mean, there's a couple considerations there: A) Could they afford to provide for the both of you? B) Would you have children? Because no job & no kids would raise eyebrows amongst most successful men unless you were just a trophy wife.
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/26 04:57 AM
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Exceptions to the rule exist, in this case the economics of where you live requiring two high incomes. The men are not seeking women making 300k as their priority. They might use income as a deal breaker / minimum bound. I.e. relatively indifferent if she makes 85k+ with career potential. And I hope you're not confusing "men want career women" with "career women can get relationships." There are character traits that are common among career women, like being responsible/reliable or an easy one i…
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/26 04:38 AM
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I am conventionally very attractive and fit That's why they want you. Not your career. Put on 80 lbs and get a promotion. Still want you? Doubt. there are plenty of men who want career women. Still haven't met one. And I question the mindset of a man who wants a woman for money, lol.
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/26 04:21 AM
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Yeah, you're right. Women who value careers above all else think women are successful only if they have a career. The problem here is you're asking about what men want, not what career women want. Career women think their careers make them more attractive because that's precisely want she admires about men. But men don't care about her career. Successful men already have money- what do they need a woman with money for? They dont. Men look for beauty, fitness, and character traits. He's already f…
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/26 04:10 AM
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18-year-olds do not have the pull that 23-year-olds do. It's too young in the modern world. Go back hundreds of years ago and it was probably 14. The measure is men, and not men under 21. Plenty of men are put off by 18 for being too young. An 18 year old's fertility is higher than 23 but not her attractiveness. Sexual attraction is not limited to viewing a picture of someone. Women are still increasing sexual value beyond 18, then peak at 23.
/r/RedPillWomen13/02/26 07:40 PM
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It's 23. Beauty, youth, fertility, and well into adulthood with some experience under her belt where she's far from being a child. It happens to be an age that most men subconsciously find most attractive from a purely visual/reproduction POV. The age is mostly centered on biology, which is a 1st order priority for men.
/r/RedPillWomen13/02/26 06:26 PM
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I'm guessing it didn't end well and you two dont know how to behave pleasantly with each other? For me it was never a question because it ended on good terms.
/r/RedPillWomen30/01/26 05:39 PM
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That makes more sense now. I figured the relationship was on the shorter side. Bit ambiguous saying it ended in your post, but now frame it as you're still together. One issue might be communication and transparency. I struggle to drill down to what actually happened, so if you communicate this indirectly as you do here, you probably do that with him as well. But let's talk about him. There doesn't seem to be strong ties between you two. It's not wife/fiancee, living together, or been together f…
/r/RedPillWomen17/01/26 02:31 PM
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How long were you together and what was your relationship status?
/r/RedPillWomen17/01/26 02:00 PM
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4, not 5. The great news is that 4 is an objectively low number. It is a desirable number. and I'm not just saying this. You came at a really good time, instead of coming here with a high number asking how you can change it. Now, you carefully vet men, decide who you want to sleep with (if you do or don't), and who to pursue a relationship with. Should I expect that I'll never be able to tell a man about my history fully or accept that I can't control their reaction after telling them? For the m…
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/25 11:41 PM
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Don't have sex until you're comfortable As far as I'm reading your number is low, like 5 or something, right. Not 15 at 22? You dont have a high number- women's average is 9. Body count from relationships is different than racking up hookups. The whole bit about sleeping with the next guy because you slept with the last. That's referring to playing games and withholding sex. You dont have sex if you dont want to. You mention God so I'm wondering if you have a purity complex. You're allowed to da…
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/25 11:03 PM
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At the same time, it says men and women have fixed roles and hierarchies. Men and women dont have fixed roles in relationships. They tend to naturally fall into certain roles, but anything can be negotiated. Hierarchies refer to men and women in society. Yes, there are. We all play the same game and we dont get to decide the rules. Red pill says learn the rules of the game and use it to your advantage. If you extrapolate that to a macro social level, that's starting to sound like politics. Maybe…
/r/RedPillWomen21/12/25 05:33 AM
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Yes it's a horribly misleading mistake. No she is not trying to troll you.
/r/RedPillWomen17/12/25 02:58 AM
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I know he’s always been this way. It just got worse after his first partner cheated on him with multiple people. Okay, so what's driving this is his insecurity. But what would he actually do if you saw a male doctor? Abuse you? Do nothing? Leave you?
/r/RedPillWomen17/12/25 02:48 AM
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A boundary means he walks away, not control what you do. You have agency in this. Well, unless you're saying that being with this man is worth giving up your agency?
/r/RedPillWomen17/12/25 02:43 AM
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She meant healthcare provider.
/r/RedPillWomen17/12/25 02:40 AM
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It's your body, your health, ultimately your decision. He is very controlling over your body. In the civilized world, this is not okay. Although I recognize there are many uncivilized parts of the world where men have this kind of control over a woman's body. His feelings are his problem, not yours. Why does he feel this way? What is it really about? What would happen if you just said you're going through with the treatment with the male doctor? How would he exert his control?
/r/RedPillWomen17/12/25 02:13 AM
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If you said, “Casual sex kinda makes me feel empty inside,” I guarantee you’d get different responses from your friends. They’re reacting to the masculine wording you chose. We can't forget that putting a negative connotation on body count to someone with a high body count will illicit a hostile reaction. Your suggestion absolutely softens the blow because it makes it about you. They may prioritize freedom: freedom of choice freedom of "my body", but in almost every case if this is brought up it…
/r/RedPillWomen28/11/25 02:16 PM
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42 year old has been respectful, taking things slowly, but he gives me the sense that he’s just drifting through life (he’s very successful). He drinks lots of alcohol while I rarely drink, he hasn’t even told me what he’s looking for and when I talked about kids he said “you’re thinking way ahead!” Dating an alcoholic 18 years older than you is insane. Be prepared for this guy to die waaaayyy before you. I'm not against age gap dating, I've done it before but less than this. At some point one s…
/r/RedPillWomen11/11/25 01:21 PM
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Hi Pearl! :)
/r/RedPillWomen01/11/25 12:44 AM
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"Compare me to your exes"
/r/RedPillWomen31/10/25 05:45 AM
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Why is it disrespectful? He's honest and direct. It's a different communication style. At no poing did he call her unattractive. He said she' good looking. She asked him a bunch of questions that beg risky, yet honest answers. He obliged. He answered honestly. That's good character. If you're expecting him to sugar coat things and white lie to be respectful, that's not going to be good for anyone.
/r/RedPillWomen31/10/25 05:41 AM
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Couple points. Your questions and especially how they're phrased make it quite obvious to me that you're insecure about your looks. This is a healing journey for you to explore. The fact that prior women were more attractive isn't necessarily a problem. Hot:crazy matrix, often the hottest ones are not worth it. He's basically prioritizing LTR traits or RMV. How much he's into you physically does matter. If he's really into you that's great, if he's kinda bored that's not gonna work. Currently th…
/r/RedPillWomen31/10/25 05:34 AM
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Honesty is great. This honestly isn't going to work out.
/r/RedPillWomen31/10/25 05:18 AM
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What does he do for work? Successful people work a lot.
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/25 11:15 PM
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Okay thanks, I just wanted to make that clear because it will shape the advice you receive
/r/RedPillWomen06/07/25 09:54 PM
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Okay, I'm still not getting what happened. Did you cheat on him in the beginning? Were you more interested in other guys? We're you exclusive but pursuing other men, even if in seemingly mild ways?
/r/RedPillWomen06/07/25 08:34 PM
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The history is very relevant here. Now this distrust of me around other men was an issue at the beginning of our relationship, but I genuinely thought we had moved past this. What happened then?
/r/RedPillWomen06/07/25 08:18 PM
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I also like his family but don't love them and part of me cringes at the idea of being connected to them. Sometimes I wonder if it's a sign of something bigger, that maybe if I really really loved him. I think you just said it. You dont want to join his family. He is 100% Italian And how does he feel about this?
/r/RedPillWomen11/06/25 06:46 PM
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US, If I remember correctly.
/r/RedPillWomen28/04/25 10:59 AM
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15% of men can fuck a lot. That's a lot of men to go around. Women's body count at the aggregate is exaggerated. It's like 9. Plenty of women in LTRs with a count of 1-6. The delta at the aggregate is 9 for women and 7 for men.
/r/RedPillWomen27/04/25 08:26 PM
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Race plays a role in each market but what it mainly describes is being a minority in a market because all people, worldwide, usually date or have no issue dating their own race. Your race is not a flaw, so let's throw that negative thinking in the gutter immediately. You wanna know what's a flaw? Believing that about yourself. Change that, bc it knocks down your SMV. All traditional SMV-raising principles apply to you because they still apply to all the men who do date black women. Still put eff…
/r/RedPillWomen05/04/25 03:25 PM
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So I'm keeping my mouth shut and acting as though I'm not overthinking all of this. I'm just gonna text to confirm the date and that will be it. Only once he's off work. This is the best course of action. Keep building the relationship very gradually.
/r/RedPillWomen01/04/25 04:12 PM
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You forgot the part where he introduces her to his parents as his “friend”… twice! To me that’s the biggest red flag. ooo that's so romantic. Every girl's dream! I feel like such a fool now writing that whole post... here I thought these two were in a relationship, but I missed the part where he revealed they were just friends.
/r/RedPillWomen30/03/25 10:11 PM
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4 year relationship Seen each other 6 times Can't be physically together for another 4 years. he says you're the only one he wants he won't commit to you Yeah, this ain't it. Either move in together, propose, or move on. Even proposing is questionable... you gonna have another 3 years of an exoskeleton of a relationship then break up? If im reading right, he wants to be certain about marriage by being with you in person. So he'd propose in 4 years? Lot of risk there for both of you. Lot of risk …
/r/RedPillWomen30/03/25 05:57 PM
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Red pill is about self-improvement and revealing how things really are in the world pertaining to social/relationship dynamics between men and women. It is about self-improvement for both men and women, including advice that goes beyond relationships. It is not about being amoral or promoting amorality. Morality is is subjective anyways. If one learns how things really work and this gives them an advantage, some will take this information and act morally while some will not. But understanding wh…
/r/RedPillWomen12/03/25 11:25 AM
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The wall is about aging in general. Even without children, you could be 30 and look 45 or 30 and look 25. There are definitely some 35-40 women out there killing it, but that's not the average woman. The name of the game is preservation and it's a lot better than you know this at 23 than 43.
/r/RedPillWomen02/03/25 05:28 PM
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I'm very happy for you :)
/r/RedPillWomen28/02/25 02:50 AM
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A lot of people make it easy for you to stand out. They're doin' you a favour. Use it.
/r/RedPillWomen22/02/25 02:20 AM
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Rule 5
/r/RedPillWomen13/02/25 09:17 PM
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Age gap dating is fine. The "what are your goals" refers to if you want children as a 33-34 year old. Then you find yourself in a situation where you're running down the last few years of the clock, while this guy has 15+ years to figure out his stuff and is in no rush. Meanwhile this is in a relationship that does not have trust.
/r/RedPillWomen10/02/25 05:23 PM
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you can’t continue without more transparency around when she’s with him. I’d also make a fake social account to follow her Do not demand transparency while you act shady.
/r/RedPillWomen10/02/25 05:10 PM
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How attractive you find her would simply be jealousy or insecurity, which isn't relevant to what's going on and what's okay. But his actions certainly say a lot. He's told you A) he's very attracted to her B) he thinks about her sexually and C) he hides that he hangs out with her. Is this behaviour okay to you? Do you really think it's "just platonic"? Seems like he already told you the answer. If you have not already put up boundaries, it's time to. Then measure if he obeys boundaries, then dum…
/r/RedPillWomen10/02/25 03:19 PM
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It's not about the job. It's about his feelings and insecurity. The change that needs to happen is not your career... it's making him feel secure. Offer assurance, speak to him, be transparent & compassionate. And just so you know, quitting your job isn't going to solve the problem. Your husband will still be insecure. Cutting off a branch doesn't cure a poisoned tree.
/r/RedPillWomen27/01/25 08:55 PM
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What do your friends think of their partners?
/r/RedPillWomen09/01/25 04:00 PM
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I don't blame you for falling for 7-8s. Most women do and that's the point! My SMV is high but the men i go for tend to have higher SMVs than i do. Women date across and up the hierarchy. So a 7F with 8M is common. A 7 with 7 is common. An 8M won't pair with a 5F because he can choose from hundreds of 6s-7s and 8s. A 6 is uncommon but still possible. From your comment & experiences, it sounds like your SMV is high and there is no massive disparity to cause an issue. However, even though your SMV…
/r/RedPillWomen24/11/24 08:10 PM
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Your comment was asking if you were shooting out of your league but I dont know what league these guys are in. What is his SMV and why do you think that? For you to make some kind of comment that a guy is out of your league you have some kind of basis for why you think that. So, why? Here I'll offer some determinants of SMV for men: Income / career / ambition Physical attractiveness Height Confidence Charisma/humour Social status Being useful to others Attracting lots of women, especially high S…
/r/RedPillWomen24/11/24 07:44 PM
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Where were you shooting before? Where are you shooting now, after your increase in SMV?
/r/RedPillWomen24/11/24 06:55 PM
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It's not what you've done, it's the men you're choosing. Now put your focus on finding marriage minded men.
/r/RedPillWomen17/11/24 02:38 AM
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Yeah this is challenging. I'm at a loss because you can't negotiate desire. Therapy in general is good, but I see now if it's specifically for male performance that's discouraging. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful. Whatever happens, I wish you the best.
/r/RedPillWomen09/11/24 08:00 PM
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Y’all have no idea how much this issue has affected me. Do you want to sign up for this for life? I don’t know what to do Fix or leave. Ask yourself what's worth fighting for. Sounds like you need to have a conversation with him about how you feel (do not accuse or blame him AT ALL). A lot of sex life comes down to know your partner. A lot comes down to people having desire & putting effort into that. If you're in this for the long haul, consider a couples therapist.
/r/RedPillWomen09/11/24 03:51 PM
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Wait, what? LOL Obsessing more of what you cant have is good?
/r/RedPillWomen01/11/24 04:08 AM
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I get what you're going through and it's really tough. The tough part is having to live seeing him every day. You're obsessing about the feeling of aliveness you have when you're around him. You're not actually into him but the feelings of hope, novelty and change. It's never about them. I believe distance is the main answer. Leaning on filling those needs outside of work is another.
/r/RedPillWomen01/11/24 04:06 AM
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Could go the other way. Some people are sleepers on RMV. If it's just physical, maybe. If there's non-physical attraction that could amplify.
/r/RedPillWomen01/11/24 04:01 AM
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That still depends on too many things- I would need more specifics to form a better call. OP is still assuming too much, whether that means intentionally treating her different or the reason why if so. "He often smiles at me, he ignores the IT guy. That means he is in love with me, right?" It's totally silly to have thoughts like these. They are projection of our feelings, not facts in reality. If OP wants this guy to have feelings for her there is a very high chance she Will start to see many n…
/r/RedPillWomen26/10/24 11:56 PM
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People can see past the old. Male or female, an increase in SMV is effective. Well, assuming there weren't very powerful emotions behind the original disinterest... normally it's fine.
/r/RedPillWomen26/10/24 09:06 PM
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The journey to self improvement is to improve yourself FOR yourself. You don't improve yourself for some guy that may not care at all. There's a hundred reasons why someone might not be interested. Once you improve yourself for yourself that becomes attractive to a LOT of people, then you become more of a magnet than a door-to-door saleswoman
/r/RedPillWomen26/10/24 09:03 PM
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I assumed it was because maybe he knows I have feelings for him and he doesn’t want to hurt me by discussing it. This sounds like something your heart wants to believe but is a massive assumption that is more than likely not true. It's a big assumption to think he knows you like him and it's a big assumption to think he cares enough and would act that way. Most people do not give much consideration for others at all- our primary focus is ourselves first. And even if he wondered it, it's a big as…
/r/RedPillWomen26/10/24 08:56 PM
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Hmmm, this sounds different than my own definition. It sounds like you are combining many ingredients of attractive qualities into one. For me, that would align more closely to a fullness of "love" because love can by built by many things. If you take your definition of "beauty" as a long list of ingredients to a healthy relationship, then in this case I would say that your definition of beauty probably is necessary for a lasting relationship. Why? Flip it. There's no way I'm staying in a relati…
/r/RedPillWomen14/10/24 08:54 PM
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I would say generally speaking love can do a lot of the heavy lifting. At the same time, if someone thinks all one needs for a successful relationship is love, they would be mistaken. Hearing the word "beauty" is a little specific and I'm wondering what beauty means to you? Generally speaking people do need to be sexually attracted to one another. I can't speak to outliers but I'll say: having an active sex life is a sign of a healthy relationship. Having a dead bedroom will rot a relationship. …
/r/RedPillWomen14/10/24 07:31 PM
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Literally, tho
/r/RedPillWomen23/09/24 11:36 PM
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I kinda want to point something out first here: he suggested a date and.. well, he forgot. if he doesn’t really care about something, he will forget This reads like you're hurt because him forgetting about a date means that he doesn't care about you. That's a bit of a "jump to conclusion" and not a totally rational thought. There are many reasons one could not do the date and many ways/feelings he has that demonstrate he does care about you. If this was where you were going, I could explore more…
/r/RedPillWomen21/09/24 02:24 AM
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There's a few things going on here: the number is relevant, how he reacted/treated you is relevant, what caused the weight gain, and him saying he loves you later on raises an eyebrow. The number There's a difference between 25 lbs and 100 lbs. I often exaggerate a point to make the point. In other words, I think we can all agree gaining 100 lbs is seriously problematic, right? Okay, so weight gain can be problematic, however 25 lbs (or 25% of that) has a small amount of "not good" and I'm not g…
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/24 11:34 AM
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"I think we'd make great friends!"
/r/RedPillWomen15/09/24 03:15 PM
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Maybe? But really... I think that they cannot fathom that a woman with a shapely shape of size who can get wealthy men or men that are well off. Your post is more about what you think, not about them. You are viewing this through your perception, not perspective (all / objective). The times in my life where I've gotten in the most trouble is assuming what others think/feel. This is where we can be very, very wrong. Your post has over 100 words about your relationship with your size and body. The…
/r/RedPillWomen08/09/24 06:19 PM
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It starts with the socks. -Divorce lawyer
/r/RedPillWomen06/09/24 12:15 AM
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Lot of golden pebbles in this one. Hypergamy means that women would rather go home alone than with the second place winner. This is monogamy. When a woman sees a man she desires, she is loyal to him until the moment she sees someone else she desires more… then she becomes monogamous to that man instead. This line is pretty powerful. It's also why you should cheat, yourself, if you feel like it And even those who truly are principled pussywhipped still want to, even if they don’t follow through. …
/r/RedPillWomen03/09/24 04:13 AM
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Everyone has positives and negatives that reach an equilibrium in the SMP. A 40+ single mom definitely gets docked a few points, but that doesn't mean she goes down to 0. Take Kim Kardashian: her SMV is so high that the damage from age (43)/kids does to her is very little relative to her SMV. People don't go to 0, but there is an adjustment factor to reach a new equilibrium. The other thing is, a market is derived from millions of participants who are independent actors. While a group can collec…
/r/RedPillWomen27/08/24 02:37 AM
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I wasn't being sarcastic with that. My point was a paper and what's written in the OP are vastly different.
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/24 07:19 PM
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Why have an SO if you can't share your emotions? 🙃 Just don't overload him. Deposit a lot of happiness so that you can make a withdrawal of sadness.
/r/RedPillWomen25/03/24 07:56 PM
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The manic part is not literal. Mania is a very extreme and rare state. It also is not derived from trauma, but most often is seen in mental illnesses that are tethered to biology. It's a state that pushes one's mind and beyond beyond its limits (the other way to trigger it is drugs). Even among mental illnesses that have it, it's one of the less common symptoms. The trope refers to an state of elevated mood, but not mania, and not even hypomania, but a normal mood that resembles it. Like a norma…
/r/RedPillWomen20/03/24 03:36 AM
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Are you going off BMI, % bodyfat, or a subjective opinion on how someone looks?
/r/RedPillWomen24/02/24 09:35 PM
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Hmmm.... are you: low in enthusiasm? blunt/direct? resting bitch face? hate small talk? argumentative? always struggled to fit in with most girls? introverted?
/r/RedPillWomen24/02/24 12:21 AM
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Forgive me, but being separated from your FP is not the same as any woman becoming alpha widowed. Please don't intermingle mental illness with the red pill. I'm glad you're doing well now and wish you the best.
/r/RedPillWomen20/02/24 09:09 PM
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hentai users end up contemplating becoming transgender at bizarrely high rates Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
/r/RedPillWomen19/02/24 06:52 PM
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Pornsick is a term used to describe men who are obsessed with porn to the point that alters their brain and also causes sexual dysfunctions. Couldn't this affect women too?
/r/RedPillWomen19/02/24 05:35 PM
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be porn sick what is porn sick? haven't heard this one
/r/RedPillWomen19/02/24 05:18 PM
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Is it a red flag that the guy I’m talking to follows a lot of cosplayers and models? Probably a yellow flag. Definitely not a good thing, could be mild. Don't know how deep that goes; could turn red quickly. I went to look at his following and I felt disgusted where I was questioning his authenticity with me. The people he would follow would be Hentai Pages, Half naked cosplayers, and a few other girls. I felt a little disgusted because I have the same body type as these women and throughout Hig…
/r/RedPillWomen19/02/24 05:13 PM
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It's interesting that a woman can nail a male perspective.
/r/RedPillWomen18/02/24 06:32 AM
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There are many reasons why a man couldn't be okay with it and insecurity is only one of them.
/r/RedPillWomen18/02/24 06:26 AM
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A difference here is that while some women are cool with earning more than their man, all of them wish he earned more. This is opposite of men. They do not wish for their woman to earn more.
/r/RedPillWomen18/02/24 06:22 AM
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people will be generally aware of a feel for the balance in a relationship, and that that affects their behavior and how they approach the other person, without points being needed. It's important to remember that this "feel of balance" is based on perception and as long as both people feel their relationship is balanced, despite it not being balanced, is all that matters. This is evident if you ask, let's say, a couples therapist about the balances in a relationship. The therapist's opinion of …
/r/RedPillWomen12/02/24 02:08 AM
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I think there's a large percentage of men that SHOULDN'T date and have sex because they're not masculine enough. And if a lot of men aren't chosen and remain virgins forever, what's the problem? Look in the mirror and ask yourself how you'd feel if no man wanted you.
/r/RedPillWomen10/02/24 06:04 PM
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I need more details to distinguish between, "telling her doesn't matter" and "I must deceive her."
/r/RedPillWomen06/02/24 06:31 AM
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why to become attracted to masculine men I'm going to assume you meant "become attractive to", as in changing yourself, not how do you become aroused. You cannot control attraction, so I'll take this as "why should i make myself more attractive to masculine men?" That's really a question for you to answer. The answer for most women is very simple: they are very attracted to masculine men. While there's a lot of men they couldn't date even if they wanted to. Considering you are attracted to...any…
/r/RedPillWomen27/01/24 07:07 PM
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Was about to quote exactly that. People can have platonic relationships. They're very rare with the opposite sex, but possible. It's a tip off to inquirr further, but it could be totally above board and fine. However, that means being open and transparent about everything, including your partner reassuring you and instilling confidence in you. So the guy's response, in this case, is a red flag and this is the first moment that I consider it a real flag. >he said it may be a little odd to hang ou…
/r/RedPillWomen24/01/24 04:09 PM
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I just read a story about two 27-year-olds breaking up and going their separate ways. ...do you have a question?
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/24 05:18 PM
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When he asked "Do you care about me? Yes or no" is akin to a woman asking "Do you love me?" or "Do I look fat in this dress". This is not a time for nuance and technicalities. Just because such questions are driven by insecurity should not change the "right" answer. The biggest problem is his behavior. I question any guy that has to do this. It's just ridiculous and especially foreign for a male. Here's the thing, for me it's not whether his feelings are valid, it comes down to his behavior: bot…
/r/RedPillWomen20/01/24 07:57 PM
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His test was deceitful and his response was terrible. It's like asking someone a question, they give you the answer you're looking for, then you get mad at them. But this is a bit worse becsuse it's just a joke. There wasn't even a responsibility to give a serious answer. As usual, the insane behavior is driven by insecurity.
/r/RedPillWomen20/01/24 06:12 PM
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So when he brought up the subject of sex, even if in a humorous form, what he was looking for is a reassurance that you two are sexually compatible, which you did not give him, even upon further insistence. Ah so a woman's shit test, then he did a 180? Very nice, LOL.
/r/RedPillWomen20/01/24 05:55 PM
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Not a man, but a boy with anger issues who tries to control the world around him to quell his emotions. Even going as far as giving you ultimatums for trivial things. I'm actually very surprised he's acting like an insecure 15-year-old. Some of what he is doing is likely emotional abuse. While I do my best to see both sides, I'd run in this case. This is really, really bad.
/r/RedPillWomen20/01/24 05:46 PM
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Lots of men making $250K would choose to begin a LTR with a 7 who makes $100K over a 9 who only has aspirations to be a SAHM. They aren't going to trust the latter. Almost no men are getting a 9 woman, flat out. If that happens, it's an outlier. 9 women are extremely rare, unless you're valuing the woman on a "boost my self-esteem" scale. It's hard to take you seriously after this comment. But I can address the rest. Women date across and up dominance hierarchies, while men date across and down.…
/r/RedPillWomen11/01/24 04:51 PM
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A man making 250K, who is not apprehensive about entering a relationship with a $0 income partner Every man is apprehensive about that. That's why there is some amount of vetting. You also chose someone who is making $0, which is not even realistic today. What you're saying does not change anything I said. Men are not prioritizing low SMV women just because they have a good income. All men prefer high SMV women. Income is part of the equation but it's not a primary consideration. When you pull o…
/r/RedPillWomen10/01/24 01:33 AM
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The other way that it goes, based on comments I've seen off of this sub, is being a hypocritical dig at men. The hamstering goes like this: overweight women are praised with white lies from other women and to "know her worth" they say that fat guys are low-SMV and not worth dating therefore, women dating fat guys are "dating down" When a fat girl dates a fat guy she's "dating down"
/r/RedPillWomen09/01/24 05:56 PM
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I would write something myself but I don't need to when I can just point to here. ^
/r/RedPillWomen09/01/24 12:37 AM
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Why is that dating down? Are you suggesting someone dates based on a hypothetically higher SMV which they don't have? Lol.
/r/RedPillWomen09/01/24 12:36 AM
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Your initial comment was both technically true but also a bit sugarcoated given the context. Your follow-up here, clears the air. Women don't expire Eggs expire IF a woman wants biological children then age is very much on the table OP is young and doesn't have to worry, especially since she has the time and hopefully the awareness & focus to work on her goals.
/r/RedPillWomen09/01/24 12:30 AM
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Does that mean no fat woman ever get commitment from a good man? Of course not. That’s red pill delusion. Neither TRP nor RPW says that. TRP says a woman that is overweight has a lower SMV than her in-shape self and therefore will have more options in the SMP when she's in shape. It's mischaracterized enough outside the sub, so let's be mindful in here.
/r/RedPillWomen09/01/24 12:00 AM
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Few points because I'm not going to argue with a man on a women's sub. I acknowledge that this occurs and there is some value to it, but it's not a top priority. It is not a dealbreaker for most men. Does it matter? Sure but it's like 4th+ it's not #1-#2 like women. I'm talking systematically, you're referencing anecdotes It's a bit different in HCOL cities where a HHI of 250k is the bare minimum, so unfortunately the reality is that people need two bigger incomes there to raise a family You ign…
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/24 05:13 PM
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Let’s run an exercise called Establish your Non-negotiables. A non-negotiable is something you cannot live without, that you are not flexible on, that would be a dealbreaker. These are typically based on values/needs and is a very short list. Be careful with them. The point is to eliminate things that are wants, preferences, flexible, hopes, to be grounded on the most important things and to work up from there. Questions for you: Having children The children are biological Man being the breadwin…
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/24 04:49 PM
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yeah, he is making less than half what I make This is an important detail because basically with your household's financial situation, at the moment, he would have to stay at home to raise the kids. I had a female professor in college who cleared somewhere between 150k-180k while her husband made 80k. When they had kids, the pragmatic choice was that he became a stay at home dad. This was very unconventional but worked for them. So now I understand why you're focusing on gender roles so much, ba…
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/24 04:00 PM
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Hold on, that's not the reality for 2023. It's increasingly common for women to be making the same or more money than their partner. It's the norm that people need two incomes to run a household. The situation you are in is very common today because that's the natural order of 2023. I mean, this is RedPillWomen... we're realistic about how gender roles work, aren't we? Yes, I love the guy, but if the relationship can't function along the lines of the natural order (i.e. the guy making more than …
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/24 03:49 PM
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Problem I see here is apparently you really like him and he has many hard to find character traits. Say you go back on the market to roll the dice, what are the chances of you finding the same or better? How about when you feel stressed for time... also at 35 your options are starting to fall unless you really took care of yourself or you're willing to date much older guys (which probably are either ready or already fathers and out). Your SMV might play a role here... if it has fallen but you ha…
/r/RedPillWomen04/01/24 08:03 AM
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Men are not choosing women for their money. It's a nice bonus to have but it's not a driving factor for men who can afford a very comfortable lifestyle. You don't have a man earning 250k saying, "I only date women who make the same or more than me" but you will have no shortage of women who are like that (women prefer a man who makes at least 53% more than them, on average). They don't need more money. You can see this relationship applied more and more the higher you go in income. Virtually all…
/r/RedPillWomen03/01/24 09:30 PM
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TRP is not about religion, it's not about righteousness, RPM are not insecure, the Tate brothers are not associated with TRP. Look, I can tell you don't know much about TRP and rather than going back and forth I'll just point you to where you can learn about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/comments/18uag8w/red_pill_origins/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/ https://www.forums.red/i/TheRedPill/ https://theredarchive.com/ The Rational Male
/r/RedPillWomen02/01/24 11:30 PM
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I have never seen or heard of a single RPM who is religious. TRP is not related to religion, they are often at odds or unrelated. It sounds like you are conflating the two by linking them together based on traditionalism. I imagine you are not familiar with The Red Pill, but rather you found a woman's subreddit that has some traditionalism rooted in it—again, very different than the mens'—and like it because you can relate on those parts. Yet, you are confused about what TRP is or where it came …
/r/RedPillWomen02/01/24 08:28 AM
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Most podcasts, youtube, TikTok are grifters... aka: people who don't know much about the red pill but will jump at the opportunity to use it to make a quick buck. They get most of it wrong anyways. Read up on the wiki here and some of the older posts, especially Back to Basics I don’t inherently see them as awful but an overly narcissistic man who comes home and wants dinner on the table ready is cringe. Not sure where that's coming from but nobody here would tell you to marry a narcissist... qu…
/r/RedPillWomen01/01/24 11:56 PM
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I want to be there for them for at least the first 4 to 5 years of their life, that's when they need you. Most men prefer this, too. It's only a matter of economics. Finding a guy who is like minded about this seems unlikely. It's very likely, but depending on where you live would make it more difficult. These days a lot of households require 2 incomes to survive. They will label me not being feminist You are assuming men give a shit about feminism, lol. I promise you men do not care, especially…
/r/RedPillWomen01/01/24 10:06 AM
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Eh... Rollo is an important fellow but he is not the origin story. See here. He wrote some theory himself but he also gathered theory created by others on older forums and summarized it on paper.
/r/RedPillWomen30/12/23 09:22 PM
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I added my 2 cents about. So what are the origins of RPW? :)
/r/RedPillWomen30/12/23 08:50 PM
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Best write-up. ^ To clarify timelines: Pre-dating TRP in the manosphere was game/pick-up artistry in the late 1990s early 2000s. This continued to early 2010s, though mediums were shifting from print to video. Redpill formed in early 2010s, where game remains as a pillar (evolved now) but has several pillars. It's more about male self-improvement and understanding broader sexual/social dynamics. PUA had a lot of cheap party tricks but modern day game/TRP is about building real value. Rollo publi…
/r/RedPillWomen30/12/23 08:47 PM
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Thats why they get all huffy about paying for dates even when a woman is more attractive than them and has displayed interest in him in many ways. Eh no. It's partly due to the fact that so many women take advantage of men these days (FDS or selfish/entitled women). A friend of mine didn't buy groceries for a month because she was just going on dates and she didnt pay a dime. She also accepted concert tickets with no intention of progressing with the guy. Another factor is that an increasing num…
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/23 06:02 PM
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He can possess alpha traits as a masculine male (many alpha traits are not money, this is why alpha fucks and beta bucks), but he is not a HVM.
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/23 09:33 AM
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Alphas are at the top of dominance hierarchies and by definition are rare Gynocentric society. (This is a deep topic but some key points: a beat down on male social circles, masculinity, and masculine leadership (i.e. passing on these traits to younger men). Technology also enables men (adult children? Lol) to become consumed by life-wasting, unproductive, lonely activities. Excuse me, but how can a woman be soft and feminine if she has to constantly rely on herself financially? This is backward…
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/23 09:17 AM
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Reasonable numbers might adjust with promiscuous cultures. Maybe if it was 2-3 before, now it's 6-9? but I don't think we're at 15 and I do think 100+ will matter for the foreseeable future. Maybe the future means 12-15 but there will always be a limit We don't need to be in a situation where it doesn't matter at all... even people who are quite progressive still have numbers they think is ridiculous. People who go to orgies or sex workers can have a 4-digit n count, which I'm sure disgusts 99% …
/r/RedPillWomen26/12/23 08:30 PM
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People are painting a rosy picture about late-stage dating which is not relevant to a 29-year-old. Some of these comments are the most vague things I've read on this subreddit. If I posted, "I still get matches at 55" how is that even helpful to OP? That doesn't help a 29-year-old and that doesn't reflect the true context of dating at 55. She’s asking if she’s at an age Then talk about that age. Acknowledge the wall and that she's not at the wall. Don't give me a post suggesting the wall doesn't…
/r/RedPillWomen29/11/23 04:48 PM
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Upvote for a real RPW comment. Only took 2 days to find it. You're also the first person to mention children which completely changes the perspective on dating. Thank you, Sophie.
/r/RedPillWomen29/11/23 04:42 PM
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How is it helpful to avoid reality? The reality is OP is still in her prime and don't waste your precious time at 29 just because some people on an internet forum are saying late 30s, early 40s dating is great. The first person to mention children posted 20 minutes ago, something that completely changes the perspective on dating. It's not helpful to wear rose-colored glasses. Massive problem in all female advice communities is the 37-50 women don't warn the 20s women to get their shit together.
/r/RedPillWomen29/11/23 04:34 PM
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men are still wanting to meet me. Dating was a lot worse for me at 25 Who are the men you are meeting at 37 and why was dating worse at 25? Has anything about you changed in those 12 years?
/r/RedPillWomen29/11/23 04:25 PM
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It was hard to find the real comment in this thread. Beyond the coping comments of "it'll be fine" is the truth that the older you get the majority of people who are serious about relationships are already in relationships (married). The dating pool is much smaller, yet has lots of lifetime bachelors looking for short-term flings and all kinds of men with baggage. The quality, as you said, is significantly less.
/r/RedPillWomen29/11/23 04:22 PM
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The guy setting his age range as wide as 18-50 is just looking for sex.
/r/RedPillWomen28/11/23 07:55 PM
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Technically you will always get matches but your SMV gradually degrades and so does one's dating pool. Twoxchrosomes might call you a misogynist if you acknowledge that a 37F single mom of 3 kids won't be dating a 30-year-old male model. This is irrational. This sub gets close to the truth but often bears catastrophizing. There's the acknowledgement of SMV and the wall, therefore an acceptance that dating at 37 and 25 are not the same. However, often insecurity drives the conversation and we get…
/r/RedPillWomen28/11/23 06:11 PM
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Na, she's just frustrated and sarcastically lashing out. It goes something like this: Online dating in 2023 isn't what I expected > dates are not going the way I intend them to > other people's timelines, connection, intimacy, expectations don't matter > if I consider that people want different things and I engage in those things that I don't want, the relationship is transactional > if the relationship is transactional, why don't they just pay me? (but not actually)
/r/RedPillWomen25/10/23 06:48 PM
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If the events are: 1) not wanting to date someone who is promiscuous, so you reject them 2) the rejected person's response is "you're insecure" is when it's bullshit. The reason is not insecurity, rather it's the rejected person who is projecting their own insecurity. But saying that no men would feel insecure Sure, we don't have to talk in absolutes. You can find an extreme beta that is insecure about anything.
/r/RedPillWomen20/10/23 06:10 PM
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I may be misunderstanding his use of insecurity and the sequence of events? So: Someone knowingly enters into an LTR with a sex worker/promiscuous partner Later they feel insecure because they start comparing themselves to the sex worker's past partners The relationship ends With this specific reasoning, yes it's insecurity. The majority of the time, not wanting to date a sex worker is not because of insecurity. In this circumstance, I have to wonder why someone would knowingly enter into a rela…
/r/RedPillWomen20/10/23 05:34 PM
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Only they can understand and not be insecure about it. Great post except it has nothing to do with insecurity. That word is just used to pass off the blame to the other party when you feel undesirable.
/r/RedPillWomen20/10/23 04:29 PM
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Great post! I laughed at #1 because some people will always take them as judgements, haha
/r/RedPillWomen08/10/23 12:30 PM
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Report them on sight
/r/RedPillWomen08/10/23 12:11 AM
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I've never heard of this until this subreddit and I see only two common threads 1) liberal majority subreddits 2) female spaces. By definition that makes them echochambers. It's not even the case that someone is permitted to offer a different perspective... just outright totalitarian bans if you do.
/r/RedPillWomen05/10/23 05:50 AM
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Agree with everything you've said: different strokes for different folks, but it's indeed immature beta behavior. It's 1 step before subscribing to onlyfans. Regarding abundance, the alpha behavior is being unbothered with women, except to go out there and bang them.
/r/RedPillWomen04/10/23 03:38 PM
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Well it's relative, right? I think about 3 stages: Big weight change, i.e. 170+ > 130 = big difference in results Small change at normal weight: E.g. 140 to 135 (body fat 26% to 25%) = no realistic difference Small change at a low weight: E.g. 115 to 110 (body fat 19% to 17.5%) = noticeable difference In #1 it's life changing. #2 isn't noticeable up or down, so no difference. #3 isn't life changing but what's interesting here is a small change can put you into the 99th percentile of fitness and …
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/23 04:08 AM
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Are you more or less happy after you've made those changes?
/r/RedPillWomen16/09/23 04:50 AM
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I could tell he was turned off by my interest in spirituality (he was an atheist) This is a very valid reason for incompatibility. Just is. People are strong on their values. But it's not all the same thing. Personally, I think it's fine if people hold different beliefs and that's the end of it. But there's situations where things break down 1) trying to convert someone 2) arguing about it 3) the spiritual/religious thing is a significant aspect of one's life. I disclosed some trauma and what I …
/r/RedPillWomen13/09/23 04:37 PM
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Lol. Friends of mine had to stop playing Overcooked and banned it because they were on the verge of breaking up
/r/RedPillWomen31/08/23 09:27 PM
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Sometimes you get comments in this sub that leave you wondering if they even interact with humans.
/r/RedPillWomen25/08/23 05:00 AM
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and if the relationship is going really well they should play Overcooked
/r/RedPillWomen24/08/23 02:14 PM
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Thank you for finding it! Hahaha I still love it :)
/r/RedPillWomen23/08/23 05:28 PM
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joking in a mean spirited way that women are shape-shifters A woman showed me this viral video years ago. The joke was made by the woman in the video. It was hilarious. Sounds like your husband is having some fun and possibly redpilling your boys in the process, lol. And for everyone else here: the context of the original video began with a plain-face young woman doing a makeup tutorial in an erratic, joking way, who happened to be actually pretty good at makeup, and by the end she looked like a…
/r/RedPillWomen23/08/23 03:39 AM
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You still think this is a moral issue, which means your premise is fundamentally invalid. Your position is not objective; it's a subjective opinion based on your feelings & value structure and therefore you think it deserves its own category. Being subjective, it does not have to apply to every woman.
/r/RedPillWomen16/08/23 05:42 PM
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The premise of your position is that men and women must be the same, which is incongruent with TRP. It is clear that you only came here to confirm pre-existing beliefs that are in congruent with TRP. Many people have offered different perspectives but when they don't agree with you they are "not reading your post". This is why you're here in bad faith. You are also inserting plenty of questions that are personal to you which many women do not share the same feelings or experience. There isn't an…
/r/RedPillWomen16/08/23 04:25 PM
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Isn’t that hypocritical on a moral level? It isn't a moral issue.
/r/RedPillWomen16/08/23 04:20 PM
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I’m talking about how the guy feels like he’s above dating women who have a high body count and how he feels like being promiscuous won’t have any effect on his relationships. The hypocrisy in his judgment is the main issue I’m exploring in my post. Why does hypocrisy matter to you? In other words, why does every single thing need to be forcibly equalized? Do you know how many 5'1 to 5'3 women I know who only or strongly prefer to date men over 6'? It's not hypocrisy. It's a preference that one …
/r/RedPillWomen16/08/23 04:13 PM
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Too relatable. I feel a sense of community yet acknowledgement of disappointment.
/r/RedPillWomen15/08/23 04:13 PM
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This is... and I'm sorry to say... one of the dumbest things I've read on this sub. It's the 21st century: women are getting educated and it's a great thing. You've also somehow painted entire sectors of global economies in a negative light.
/r/RedPillWomen14/08/23 05:47 PM
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Waiting to have sex before marriage isn't a conservative thing, it's a religious or extreme thing in 2023. A guy wants a woman for a lover, not a friend. He has a strong biological drive to have sex and if companionship is all you have to offer he can find companionship elsewhere. There are some men who restrain themselves but they would need a very good reason and the only reason I see that works is religious. That's a smaller dating pool. You also identified a desire for "higher value" men... …
/r/RedPillWomen14/08/23 05:40 PM
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High Value Man (HVM) was a term popularized many years ago by the late Kevin Samuels and with a specific definition. The term has a nice ring to it, so obviously it was disseminated across other female communities... except the definition is often forgotten. What usually happens, and especially on this sub, is ladies confuse the term "High Value Man" with "Man I Value" because every week this "High Value Man" has a completely different set of attributes and behaviors. Case in point: your comment…
/r/RedPillWomen14/08/23 05:31 PM
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All three of those are factors in making a man high value. The last one is debatable, however, because while women do prefer a man of equal or higher intelligence the data proves that everyone dates within an approximate range of their own intelligence regardless.
/r/RedPillWomen14/08/23 05:27 PM
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What do you consider flirting?
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/23 08:12 PM
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It's a tempest in a teacup I thought this was an idiom to mean if you confine someone to a space with a temptress bad things will happen. Surprised to learn it just means a small issue blown out if proportion, haha.
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/23 05:58 PM
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It's up to you. However, considering he didnt get physical and its more just flirting and giving her a ride...actually if that's all that happened its not even emotional cheating... then I personally would forgive. And this is the only time I would forgive; second chances are a privilege. There are no third chances: that's a pattern of behavior. You will have to completely forgive him eventually and rebuild your relationship on the same foundation of trust. Again, it's all up to you. If you can …
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/23 05:55 PM
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He should simply be saying, "I like receiving intimate letters." This is open to interpretation and leaves out that any former SO did this. I don't blame you for feeling this because almost anyone would feel similar. Rather I blame your boyfriend for framing everything about his ex because that's in poor taste.
/r/RedPillWomen10/08/23 07:22 PM
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TRP: male self improvement in both sexual dynamics and life with the focus on the self, not women, but success with women comes as a consequence of improvement. TRP focuses on short-term relationships. TRP is unique in revealing how things really are between men and women, for most people (heterosexual, of course). Getting redpilled removes the veil that society casts full of white lies, PC answers, self-censorship, and hopium, therefore leaving you with a raw unfiltered view of the world that p…
/r/RedPillWomen09/08/23 06:07 PM
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You ever talked to a therapist? In a couple paragraphs you've displayed some catastrophizing, black-or-white thinking, emotional reasoning, labeling, extreme self-criticism, shame, guilt, and self-hate. I suspect the behaviour you mentioned is a symptom, not the problem. A therapist is more equipped to help you dig deeper and nurture self-love.
/r/RedPillWomen29/07/23 11:19 PM
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Because historically men had the means to pay while women did not. It's also something nice to do for someone, so naturally that means the pursuer will offer to pay. Women also care about a man's resources so it's a small demonstration. The number of people that think "supposed to" is shrinking significantly. However, the amount of women that like when a guy pays is relatively stable, but slightly down as well. I don't see a fundamental shift happening where women are the pursuers buying dinners…
/r/RedPillWomen28/07/23 11:13 PM
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The satirical answer: because 50/50 only comes on the table when it benefits her. The real answer: because the SMP demands it. If most men pay on the first date basically every man has to or he's at a huge disadvantage and women will look down upon him. This means even the 50/50 guy needs to pay on the first few dates. However, once a couple is together they can negotiate the terms of their relationship for the long-term in whichever way they see fit. Both men/women come to the table to divide t…
/r/RedPillWomen28/07/23 11:00 PM
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50/50 is not possible and leads people to have an obsession with equalizing everything and getting bent out of shape over every little thing that is not 50/50. I'm talking about a 50/50 relationship and not something like splitting the mortgage in half. In my experience, obsessing over 50/50 is a yellow flag because it's often feminists who have other undesirable traits under the surface. It's like saying 50/50 while the feminist demands power/control (60/40 in reality?) or it means 50/50 only w…
/r/RedPillWomen28/07/23 10:49 PM
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I'm not endorsing her behaviour. OP asked if she should distance, talk, or redirect. I'm simply saying the first course of action is not to cancel her but to talk to her.
/r/RedPillWomen26/07/23 12:46 PM
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You're falling for the same Reddit problem that occurs on this sub, other relationship subs, AITA, dating subs etc. They all have one common problem: people share one side of the story and it's all negatives, therefore pre-emptively painting the conclusion for everybody on Reddit. Half the time people are engaging in poor behaviour themselves but too ashamed to admit (why would the put themselves in a negative light anyways?) A similar phenomenon happens in real life when people vent to their fr…
/r/RedPillWomen26/07/23 12:29 PM
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There's no question the friend is engaging in unacceptable behavioir but that doesn't mean the first course of action should be tossing aside a lifelong friend. We don't know what their friendship was for the past 20 years. Perhaps the friend is having a shitty year and it's particularly bad because everyone is going places that she thought she would be herself. That's hard on most women in their 30s. But a shitty year doesn't mean she's a shity person. The first course of action is addressing t…
/r/RedPillWomen26/07/23 04:30 AM
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You are assuming a lot about a person that you don't know and being too harsh, while only hearing one side of a story. They have been childhood best friends which means they have been through a lot. The duration of that relationship is like a marriage itself. While childhood bestfriendships don't always last forever they at least deserve a conversation and fighting chance. This isn't the first bump in the road those two have had over the decades and there's a high probability they can overcome t…
/r/RedPillWomen26/07/23 02:22 AM
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I did not watch the movie but I'll share a couple highly upvoted comments on Youtube from a couple women: Speaking as a woman, it's tiring af for almost every movie made by a female director to be filled with intersectional feminist propaganda. Can't women just make movies that are fun? Does everything--even comedy--need to have a deeper meaning (that isn't even well-done or subtle, but in your face with lazy writing)? And it's always the same meaning: women are controlled by the patriarchy, but…
/r/RedPillWomen24/07/23 03:25 AM
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You're either trolling or you suffer from uni-dimensional thinking while speaking for all men.
/r/RedPillWomen20/07/23 07:22 PM
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Speed dating exists here, I never said it doesn't; I said it's not common. You can find a couple events every week if you look. Bars/clubs took a big COVID hit in 2020-2021 but in 2022 started ramping up and everything is back to normal in 2023, complete with lines out the door. The main thing people use here is apps, but I (we?) was talking about non-app channels of dating. Everyone I know who is dating relies on apps for a majority of the work and the rest is social circles and events. This is…
/r/RedPillWomen15/07/23 12:00 PM
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There was actually a therapist. Regular dude with no kids or ex Ya, 1 guy. hip part of town aged yourself there :) Yah I can tell you aren’t knowledgeable on the current market / landscape. That's a bit of a stretch. Speed dating isn't common where I'm from. As to where to middle aged guys with high income? Well it's kinda simple: where they hang out. Over here that could be certain bars / districts, social clubs, gyms, yacht clubs, ski chalets, cottage country, but most commonly in one's social…
/r/RedPillWomen14/07/23 10:04 PM
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not speed dating. The high-earning part I get because most of them are blue pilled. What I'm imagining is someone like my chiropractor, early 40s, single no kids, owns his own practice, nice house and car, but a really weird & unattractive guy. only at after work events kinda like this. Is this a paid event? A speed dating event itself could probably filter people. The organizer, the venue, the location, a theme, etc. I am not familiar with modern speed dating and how it might have changed.
/r/RedPillWomen14/07/23 08:01 PM
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Okay but 1 dude does not represent a demographic.
/r/RedPillWomen14/07/23 07:26 PM
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21-35 Most women were average attractiveness More men who were slightly mentally ill or effeminate Yea, I don't think people use speed dating as their first priority. And I nearly fell of my chair laughing about that last one! ​ High earning men less excited by female attention Do high-earning middle age men really need speed dating? I'm guessing they had to be weird in all kinds of ways. I don't suspect speed dating is literally, "I'm so high value but don't make time to meet someone" and proba…
/r/RedPillWomen14/07/23 07:24 PM
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OP is assuming the age thing, the guy didn't say it. No matter my age, when I was 18, or even much older now (im millennial), I wouldn't introduce family to random people I find cute and interesting and might date. I would only do it being in a relationship... and I still wouldn't want to unless I had to (for logistical reasons as a teen).
/r/RedPillWomen12/07/23 05:26 PM
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So you've been talking and hanging out with a guy for 2 months, not even dating, and you want him to meet your family? Yeah that's super weird. Just remember back in the day you brought someone home only when you've been in a relationship for years and you're gonna marry them. This is the complete opposite and it's super weird.
/r/RedPillWomen12/07/23 05:06 PM
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Once either crosses the physical barrier in an argument, that's where it starts. Where they start to feel more comfortable crossing that line.
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/23 03:01 PM
1

Ah okay, so the book is separate from their subscription because a credit isn't needed. I'll check it out thanks
/r/RedPillWomen08/07/23 12:52 AM
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I asked because there's a lot of bots on Reddit that do just that, and with the AI thing they are getting more clever. There's the point of calling it free, which it's not if you're saying you have to cancel a subscription. You're providing 1) personal info 2) payment info 3) committing to paying for the service 4) would later have to cancel or get charged. It's a trial period, which could be done with any of their content. It's not actually free like clicking on a YouTube link. Instead you coul…
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/23 11:28 PM
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So one makes an account with no payment information or trial period and this is a separate book they offer for free outside of their subscription? Cause when I go to that link it asks me to start a free trial for their paid service.
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/23 08:54 PM
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Is this an ad? You just gave a referral link to a paid service.
/r/RedPillWomen07/07/23 08:40 PM
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Technically there are a lot of men in #2 but it sounds like they arent high enough in SMV to intrigue you. If you are not attracting men of the SMV you desire that means there are many women of your SMV pursuing them, therefore I would recommend that you raise your own SMV to stand out.
/r/RedPillWomen04/07/23 09:42 PM
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30s are 1) men already settled down 2) men ready to settle down 3) eternal bachelors. It may not be a whole lot but still more than guys under 26.
/r/RedPillWomen04/07/23 05:09 PM
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And that's why scarcity of masculinity makes it increasingly attractive.
/r/RedPillWomen03/07/23 02:23 AM
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On the one hand, I mostly agree, on the other hand I wouldn't shame men for managing their risk. It's like when feminism + MeToo gets out of control and an accusation of a man assumes guilt, therefore empowering the minority of bad actors (no, women are not going to take advantage of men but a small abhorrent few could ruin the party for everyone). Feminism is also bent on a power trip and men in positions of power = evil. Now you have an assault on a man's livelihood: his career and how he prov…
/r/RedPillWomen02/07/23 07:37 PM
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So yeah, for whatever reason we’ve decided that 3.5% of really mentally ill women are going to make the rules, So basically Twitter, haha
/r/RedPillWomen02/07/23 04:43 PM
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While you could gain some valuable information from this I would also err on the side of caution because it's fundamentally about making assumptions about something that cannot be known. Although I could be overestimating how often young women normally get approached IRL I think you're overestimating how often young men approach women... how often Zoomer men approach women (app culture). You said late 20s, early 30s.. most men by then have a ton of confidence and experience.
/r/RedPillWomen02/07/23 05:49 AM
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A very attractive woman walking around in a major city is going to get hit on/flirted/subtly engaged about 25 times in a day. Men with similar SMV will pursue. Men slightly below her SMV will still pursue. Few men well below her SMV will pursue but some still might shoot there shot because theyre always firing from the hip for any woman theyre attracted to... remember most people are average so this still represents a chunk. Complete fallacy that attractive women aren't pursued... they are just …
/r/RedPillWomen01/07/23 04:56 PM
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I hope to play a part bridging that gap in understanding. Cheers :)
/r/RedPillWomen29/06/23 05:47 PM
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I was pulling your leg :P But in relationships being too rational is definitely a thing. There are logical problems and emotional problems where crossing a solution with the opposite problem doesn't solve it, just causes more friction and people to talk past one another. Looking at N-count above with an analysis is still fundamentally an indicator. The indicator can be very wrong. At the core, people are concerned with having long-lasting healthy, committed relationships and looking at N-count a…
/r/RedPillWomen29/06/23 04:46 PM
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There will be men that think 5+ is nasty and men that think 50+ is fine. This is rare, very rare. I would call it so rare that the last bucket representing acceptance of high body counts should just be called, "men who don't want to know."
/r/RedPillWomen29/06/23 03:52 PM
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We "Analyze" body count So the formula looks like this: BCR = (BC - N)/(A - V - YLT) Can rational dating be to rational? haha. This is such a male way of looking at things. So a body count of 15 is bad, but bad for different reasons, with one probably being worse. In the first example, 1 partner per year means this person has no real LTR experience. LTR experience and skills are way different than, STR, so if you want an LTR this is a bad match. It's bad because this person failed over 15 years,…
/r/RedPillWomen29/06/23 03:49 PM
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You seem to have gotten roasted with down votes in the comments above but you asked important questions that I would've asked as well. In the initial story it was clear that he did commit wrongdoings, but what wasn't clear was how severe (clear boundary?), nor any possible reasoning for his behaviour. This changes the approach/what to do for when he returns.
/r/RedPillWomen28/06/23 03:02 PM
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If you made it clear to him that you're not okay with him being alone with another woman, then he's broken your trust. It also happens to be in the type of situation where unfaithfulness is very common because when someone is out of the country, everything back home is "out of sight, out of mind." Considering that he initially hid this from you unless directly asked, then gave you limited info and did not reassure you, and broke a boundary, I would investigate if unfaithfulness occurred after he…
/r/RedPillWomen28/06/23 02:57 PM
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There are two camps: men who want to know and men who don't. There are more men who don't want to know. It would be extremely rare for a man to not care at all, therefore he'd rather not know. As for you... you can't change it, so why care so much about the current number? The main thing you can really do is change future behaviour so that it doesn't double. By the way, your number is not high in absolute... it's high for your age, maybe, but an older guy is likely be higher anyways. In the even…
/r/RedPillWomen11/01/23 07:33 PM
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I think her content was low value when she had 50k subs and I'm surprised to just learn she hit over a million subs. Her content is still generally low value... her most watched videos are recent stuff about Andrew Tate. Her channel is really about just making headlines, not adding any valuable insight.
/r/RedPillWomen11/01/23 08:07 AM
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I know everyone has an opinion on looks but on the physical attraction scale imo she’s below average Oof, below average? LOL. I think she's average but doesn't put in any effort .You couldn't do her the decency of declaring her, " you're average at best!" hahaha
/r/RedPillWomen11/01/23 07:59 AM
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Agree with everything you said. Broad perspective and helpful response. A-D are unquantified here and that is very important for decision making, yet is something that I don't believe can be determined. We know that men prefer natural breasts to fake, i.e. 34D natural beats 34D fake. However, what if category C (above) is a very high proportion of men... that would be very relevant to the decision making process. Where the preferences get more nuanced: do men prefer Natural 34A or Fake 34D? Also…
/r/RedPillWomen08/01/23 07:26 PM
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This. If the purpose is hookup culture, that's a problem. If the purpose is hookup culture and you claim plausible deniability when your partner has a boundary, that's a problem. And remember, you can go to any place with your partner including places even less acceptable than the above, so it's not like everything is written off. People like to refer to trust, yes this is important, but there's also a difference where a person puts themselves in situations where no good will come from that. You…
/r/RedPillWomen07/01/23 05:50 PM
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I think people fail to get that physical appearance isn’t the only criteria you can use to date down or up to have control in a relationship. Intelligence. Social awareness. Level of education. Job. Social intelligence. A pretty man who doesn’t possess social intelligence won’t be able to do all that deep thinking you’ll do. I think you need to make a distinction between someone's personal preferences and the SMP's hierarchy of SMV. Intelligence is more personal (people date within 1 st dev of t…
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/23 01:57 PM
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I'm gonna try it and credit it to you :)
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/23 01:22 PM
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I also try to avoid just hanging around subs that echo my views. I think it’s important to engage with people who disagree with you. This is a very healthy take that reminds me of Think Again by Adam Grant. Also r/intellectualdarkweb. At the same time, it's odd that you've written-off The Rational Male simply because of Rollo. All his value is the work contained in that book. On YouTube he is a rambling tool and in men's circles he acts like an expired beta who is highly respected, deservedly so…
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/23 05:54 AM
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For what it’s worth, I’m not particularly redpilled. Why exactly are you in a women's red pill sub then? To ask these women to help you?
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/23 05:38 AM
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a career driven wife would absolutely put me off Doesn't it turn you on when she says she wants to be a "Power Couple?" Lmao
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/23 05:28 AM
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The only difference is I think some (definitely not all) of the TRP anger-phasers end up becoming benevolent misogynists Well there is a male hierarchy... and very few will get near the top.
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/23 04:39 AM
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Read a book called The Rational Male. It has a lot more eye-opening theory far beyond what you wrote in the OP.
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/23 04:37 AM
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Fake beauty is expensive but genuine beauty is not. The lottery gives you some, then it's up to you to maintain what you've got which doesn't have to be expensive, people just don't put in the work. Maybe something like therapy can be expensive? That's a direct boost to RMV. Not to mention that a high salary will put you around other high earning individuals and high earning men This can help but not in the way you think. I think it's more important to find like-minded people (class) and roughly…
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/23 04:34 AM
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I read all of that looking for some revelation but we're just observing him coming to red pill conclusions on his own, lol
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/23 04:24 AM
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our humour is off If I had to pick one thing this is the most critical. Things like interests, hobbies etc are small things that don't matter and in some cases being different is a good thing. But humor needs to be in sync. however I don’t feel any chemistry. There's surely at least couple dozen men out there that you do have chemistry with. That chemistry is extremely important if you want your relationship to withstand the test of time. I also don't believe in hoping for chemistry to just come…
/r/RedPillWomen06/01/23 04:00 AM
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Your question is more suited for a law subreddit. It's not about red pill, but simply about work-life balance of a career. You will get better industry answers elsewhere. He wants to open his own law firm as this is what his older sister did and he thinks he will be able to control his hours this way. I get what he’s saying but I don’t necessarily think that means reasonable hours. You are both correct. Being your own boss means you technically have more flexibility in your firm's hierarchy. How…
/r/RedPillWomen03/01/23 07:41 PM
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I think the salary is the problem. According to women: Real $99k is $43k Real 5'11" is 6'2" Real 5.99" is 7.5"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:55 PM
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You post is: From a man Off topic Low effort Offers no value to the women here If it's not already removed it will be. Please read the side bar next time.
/r/RedPillWomen01/01/23 08:12 PM
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I don't read that as defensive so much as this is a waste of people's time.
/r/RedPillWomen01/01/23 07:40 PM
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I know how TRP pushes "pair bonding" as the idea that the higher # of sexual partners means a person can't "bond" with their long-term partner. Thing is, this is not supported by science in a meaningful way. The author of The Rational Male also referenced a couple studies / article because the point is bringing rational arguments to the table, but his evidence did not support his claims and was filled with classic statistical errors. I've been in several debates on red pill theory and even if I …
/r/RedPillWomen29/12/22 03:06 PM
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It's by a small margin tho. It's not actually a strong argument.
/r/RedPillWomen29/12/22 09:03 AM
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Why are people so mad Do you mean insecure, jealous women?
/r/RedPillWomen29/12/22 12:28 AM
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That's a good question. Has anyone read the book, "Why Men Love Bitches: From Doormat to Dreamgirl" If so, what are your thoughts?
/r/RedPillWomen23/12/22 02:15 AM
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Lifelong learner is a positive all around.
/r/RedPillWomen23/12/22 01:32 AM
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Education itself doesn't matter much. Here's the small ways it does: Most educated people prefer other educated people, but this works as a minimum standard. A bachelor's is enough Value of PhD is the classic misconception. The only person that really cares about a PhD would be another academic. Intelligence matters, not a PhD. Physical attractiveness and personality traits matter way more. A football player or CEO doesn't care if a woman has a PhD. Men who prioritize this are outliers. Educatio…
/r/RedPillWomen22/12/22 03:10 PM
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I wrote a post on value and what one can improve.
/r/RedPillWomen22/12/22 03:01 PM
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Yes it's all and it reflects a huge chunk of people that got married in their 20s. You also need to think of friend circles. I know a circle where everywhere is in LTR engagement and married with only single digit n count. I know another group of most N in 20s and 30s and one guy that likes orgies who lost count. Then there are also highly conservative or religious groups in low single digits. So if you're going to think of the promiscuous party girl youll miss it. Think of the girl at home read…
/r/RedPillWomen20/12/22 07:15 AM
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Average for women is 9, average for men is 7. The top 1% is 30+
/r/RedPillWomen20/12/22 06:47 AM
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She said people think 9 is high but that guess is ice cold & she lost count, i.e. her number is way higher. Think mid double digits depending on age
/r/RedPillWomen20/12/22 06:36 AM
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and if he’s a guy who it REALLY matters to then he’s going to have to have lower standards for a lot of other qualities. Why? If we're talking about a HV person man or woman, both will have high standards across the board because they are the ones who can demand them. Guys having the standard for his wife being a virgin is like a woman Knowing the number is not about targeting a specific number and that incrementally changes the value of a woman. It's more simple like, oh she's been with 50 guys…
/r/RedPillWomen20/12/22 02:27 AM
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There are also many cues. Everyone knows # of relationships someone's had, so that at least establishes a lower bound to work up from... or length of relationships. Like if someone was married 15 years they weren't collecting. If someone had 4 LTRs their count is obviously at least 5 And sometimes you don't need to ask. A woman I met recently who is 40s, single never married, has had a few relationships, said to the group, "my party years are over. I haven't dated in 2 years and thats my longest…
/r/RedPillWomen20/12/22 02:16 AM
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I think she offers a quite balanced perspective and she's one of the very few people to see and share perspectives from both sides. I just don't particularly find her helpful in any regard. She's basically just a commentator on other people's work and her content is surface level. She tries to add her own take based only on her personal experience and it typically is just common sense.
/r/RedPillWomen19/12/22 06:15 AM
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a man can sleep with anything walking and not feel a thing. He could sure but it doesn't necessarily mean he wants to or seeks that. If your view of men is based on RPM know that they are emotionally unavailable. They exhibit many traits from the dark triad. They are the minority of men. If I am going to have a husband or be in love with a man I want him to share my same views Depending on where you're going with this it sounds like you're rejecting the fact that men and women are different. Kee…
/r/RedPillWomen18/12/22 07:48 AM
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it's a big change from their opinion three years ago and it's a change that very well may lead to their marriage breaking up due to fundamental differences. I 100% agree on this and a lot can change depending on what is discussed in their serious convo.
/r/RedPillWomen18/12/22 06:33 AM
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I'm gonna make a comment here and I'm not asking for any response... But I once merely questioned why someone was making that choice and I have never experienced a response with such a violent wrath of fire in my life. So unless explicitly asked for input, better left unsaid, lol.
/r/RedPillWomen18/12/22 06:18 AM
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Should I give up hope that he will ever take my decision seriously? I think it's your responsibility to make sure he knows that you're serious. It's a pretty serious thing for one person to really want children and for the other to not. These differences need to be known sooner than later. What I've read from you is that you had a serious talk about having kids before you were engaged, but have not had an equally serious talk after things have changed.
/r/RedPillWomen18/12/22 06:06 AM
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A pleasant personality
/r/RedPillWomen16/12/22 06:43 PM
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Dating average is not low standards. It's average, fair standards. Or it's the appropriate standards for two average people to date. Other standards dont matter. Average also means someone has a decently sized dating pool because most people are average anyways. Lastly, average women have more options than average men without question. People run into major issues only when they are below average. But the thing is, we have enough in our control to improve on things to at least become better than…
/r/RedPillWomen15/12/22 07:01 AM
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It’s baffling to me the number of women who are not in LTR telling these women to dump the guy without any ounce of self reflection. I see a stark contrast in two mentalities. Relationships take work: they have problems, you solve it together, they evolve, they strengthen and have persistence. Whereas there's a strong mentality among a lot of single people to kick someone to the curb for the slightest reason. I wonder why some people are perpetually in relationships while others are perpetually …
/r/RedPillWomen12/12/22 05:34 AM
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I think you'll find some of that on YouTube as I've come across it in the past though unfortunately I don't have recommendations. There's more variability when you follow individual creators. EDIT: Actually I recall one channel that may be what you're looking for?
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/22 11:16 PM
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This has more to do with your dad's underlying issues and not with The Red Pill or Kevin Samuels. As an analogy, maybe someone has an underlying issue with anxiety or an irrational fear/phobia and going to a boxing match triggers their underlying issue. Is boxing the problem? Nowhere in TRP or from KS does it say, "act like an asshole and make women hate you." It's more like, "improve yourself, focus on your mission, be confident, charismatic, and a leader." mixed with drinking and a high addera…
/r/RedPillWomen04/12/22 10:47 PM
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the man might be attracted to the woman, but is not hoping for anything. If the man desires sex with a woman, i.e. he will have sex with her given the opportunity but has not because the woman put up a boundary, that is without question the friend zone. Just because a man hasn't revealed that he's sexually attracted doesn't mean he's not in the friend zone, the woman just doesn't know it. Two people who are not sexually attracted to each other are genuine friends. A guy that will never sleep wit…
/r/RedPillWomen04/12/22 06:08 PM
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Psychotherapists generally just use talk therapy. A psychologist can use a more scientific, evidence-based, solution-oriented approach. Check their credentials, their specializations, and ask them about their approach.
/r/RedPillWomen04/12/22 04:11 PM
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It's quite rare for men and women to be friends and I'd say in 95% of cases it's not possible. But there are exceptions, so I'll name a few. But they hinge on one important rule: a genuine friendship can only exist when the two parties have zero sexual attraction for one another. Some examples: You've known each other since childhood and basically see one another as brother/sister You've maintained a platonic relationship for a very long time like 8+ years You have some platonic mutual interest …
/r/RedPillWomen04/12/22 01:56 PM
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They’re primarily motivated by food and sex. If you aren’t feeding him and he’s giving you attention he probably wants sex. It’s easy to think that men’s brains work like ours and they share our wants and needs, but usually they don’t. Not all men and women are attracted to one another, so it's definitely possible. But you'd have to then figure out a motive of why they will hold a friendship. One dimension, although uncommon, is intellectual. This is an interesting one because intellectualism ca…
/r/RedPillWomen04/12/22 01:48 PM
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Overall I agree with you but I'm gonna press on a couple points, or absolutes. men do not approach women they do not find physically attractive Men and women meet not only by approach but as a consequence of life. In school, through friends, at work, in clubs/organizations. So the meeting does not have to contain sexual intent. Men and women cannot be friends. It's not the case that men want to have sex with 100% of women and it's not the case that women want to have sex with 100% of men. So wha…
/r/RedPillWomen04/12/22 01:09 PM
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Haven't you heard of the friend zone? That's not a real friendship.
/r/RedPillWomen04/12/22 01:02 PM
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If you want to know how to attract a woman, ask a man. If you want to know what RPW look for, go through the sub's wiki and look for what RPW vet for. Lastly, men's questions aren't actually welcome here.
/r/RedPillWomen03/12/22 05:47 AM
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He is very much so black pill and however I didn’t know anything about this community until the last year. Do you mean blue? Cause black is a whole other ballgame. he broke up with me probably 4-5 times over the first year and a half of our relationship and it would never last more than 24 hours. Just on this point alone, the two of you should not be together. This is the two of you fighting against nature, which says that you don't belong together. I’m emotionally drained and losing hope To be …
/r/RedPillWomen01/12/22 09:20 PM
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Why the need to start talking about some hypothetical scenario in the third person? It's just a story to demonstrate some differences (as we can see there are all kinds of differences across this thread) but noted for the future. Hmm, perhaps when I said "she insisted" on paying, it wasn't clear enough so I'll elaborate. I’ve long stated here that asking if a man if he wants to split the bill is a decent test This test was already given & passed by the man, he had no intent on splitting the bill…
/r/RedPillWomen27/11/22 07:55 PM
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There are two lessons to be learned here on perspective and culture.
/r/RedPillWomen26/11/22 09:48 PM
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The man, now feeling gaslit and a little pissed off, affirms he was paying but she refused for him to. The woman replies, "in my culture a man will fight for half an hour at the table to make sure he pays. But I have dated an American once before so I understand it could be a cultural difference." Not wanting to escalate the man concedes, "sure. A cultural difference." But the man didn't forget that. It is unacceptable for her to pay. Earlier he had gifted her a bottle of wine, so the next morni…
/r/RedPillWomen26/11/22 08:51 PM
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No, can't possibly be. 👀
/r/RedPillWomen26/11/22 06:18 PM
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She interjects as you tell the waiter 1 bill, then insists on paying her half. Then when you leave the restaurant she gives you shit for not paying for her saying no man would treat her like that, at which point your brain spontaneously combusts in that moment, "what the fuck just happened."
/r/RedPillWomen26/11/22 05:07 PM
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If you offer to pay and they take you up on it, it may be a sign that your values don’t align. That's a good point. Maybe the guy isn't interested in dating someone that is offering to pay but has no intention of doing it, therefore just deceiving the guy while trying to get credit for good manners.
/r/RedPillWomen26/11/22 04:50 PM
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Likewise :)
/r/RedPillWomen14/11/22 01:16 AM
2

That's a great write-up and it essentially explains what I'm thinking of. Thank you!
/r/RedPillWomen13/11/22 11:15 PM
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Good to know this phenomenon is at least somewhat common. a camp of women on RPW who believe submission is EARNED I haven't really thought of it in this way, a divide between two strategies. I suppose many women take the stance of, "prove yourself to me" while others choose to inspire attraction via submission, at least... insofar as you can, i.e. that a certain minimum level of attraction is first achieved and dealbreakers are absent. I think we know what the trends are these days for each of t…
/r/RedPillWomen13/11/22 04:43 PM
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basically you want to be a good balance of the green flag traits ..... you also have to avoid the red flag Madonna traits (sexually frigid and prudish, maternal (towards men), nagging, passionless, Plain Jane) Is there a distinction between a woman who is (has) these negative traits, versus a woman who exhibits these traits only under certain circumstances ? What I mean is: I've noticed a phenomenon where a woman exhibits those negative traits you've listed early on when meeting a guy, maintaini…
/r/RedPillWomen12/11/22 01:38 PM
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How much experience do you have dating? How do you put yourself out there?
/r/RedPillWomen10/11/22 04:20 AM
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Having sex with a partner then abruptly pulling away is not a good look. You've essentially gone from trusting them with your whole self to then pulling back and barely trusting them at all in a short period of time. Something that, let's say, a male might do is love bomb a woman, have sex, then pull away the affection. Sound similar? You've offered one of the highest forms of affection, twice, and suddenly pull away. You've established a precedent but are now putting shackles on him and the rel…
/r/RedPillWomen05/11/22 05:55 PM
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So you don't wish to practice celibacy per se... you prefer to have sex when you feel a strong connection with your partner and feel comfortable in having sex? These are quite different things as the former is something quite restrictive and can mean not having sex before marriage, or some strict connection with religion, or just abstaining from sex, wherease the latter is what most people do and what I encourage everyone to do.
/r/RedPillWomen05/11/22 05:46 PM
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I was committed to celibacy Can I just ask why? Your actions say that you don't want celibacy and your post sounds like you're struggling to accept that having sex is okay, not that celibacy is necessarily the right thing for you.
/r/RedPillWomen05/11/22 01:59 PM
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If you tell her to learn how to vet well and learn how to pick better men The better men are in the friend zone.
/r/RedPillWomen27/10/22 08:51 PM
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I was so baffled by all of it that after I was banned. this viewpoint is extreme. Is that worth a ban in your eyes? I wanted to feel like I wasn't crazy, I was seeking validation in that because I thought it was, well extreme. Getting banned by a group of radicals is a good thing in the end.
/r/RedPillWomen27/10/22 05:26 PM
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It's not Red Pill, it's controlling behaviour. It's not in The Rational Male, neither spouted by Rollo, neither in Kevin Samuel's content. I'm not familiar with Tate's content but sounds like the kind of stuff he would do since he calls women his property. Tate is not a beacon of Red Pill, he's just some toxic con artist. He has voiced that he feels manipulated and that if he allows me to have this boundary then I will continue to manipulate him This is the real issue that is causing his toxic b…
/r/RedPillWomen26/10/22 08:11 PM
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This is Red Pill; the whole point is gendered statements. There is a difference between gendered statements that are true for most vs. a minority (mischaracterizing). There's a big difference in taking negative traits of a small minority and using it to characterize a larger majority.
/r/RedPillWomen26/10/22 07:23 PM
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The key is in the “men who…” part. Did you read my whole post? I addressed this. That wording is just a smokescreen. She does that 24x, she speaks on behalf of a group identity (all women), then in the 2nd half it's no longer "men who" it's just men. Here's an example: how do you feel about the statement, "Some women are bitches" and if a guy said that. It's not a good statement and nobody will like it despite it only referring to some women. Even if you take her at face value, it's two minutes …
/r/RedPillWomen26/10/22 07:01 PM
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I don't go there, so post is for OP /u/littlelunacy. particularly because they are venting about low quality behaviors in men It's not only about LQ behaviours, that's just on the surface as I explain here. It's a problem to ascribe those traits to all single men, the same as it would be to women. If she were venting about her narcissistic relationship, I understand. But she's riling up community support to bash single men in general.
/r/RedPillWomen26/10/22 06:45 PM
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I wouldn't go there either to argue against a mob that would never listen. The comments will get shut out and accounts banned as the echo chambers thrive. As for the comments themselves, it's exactly what I would expect from a radical feminist subreddit. Do you really believe these women or the men on TRP believe ALL men/women are terrible? I raise this point to people—regarding similar topics—outside of the echo chambers. I see hurt people venting about their frustrations. It's pretty obvious t…
/r/RedPillWomen26/10/22 04:06 AM
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I'd like to just break down the video itself and the flaws it bears: She begins saying she's a survivor of narc abuse, then references an article "Single men are lonely in record numbers" This is important. She says, "I can't speak for all women but I can speak for myself." Then proceeds to say more than two dozen times, "WE are done..." . Immediately she does speak for all women. Saying "We are done with men who gaslight us" on its own isn't such a bad phrase because you're making a statement a…
/r/RedPillWomen26/10/22 12:29 AM
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The comments in the thread and on the Youtube video are far worse than the video itself, filled with baseless attacks on all men. I can tell you're watching the video and trying to find the good in it, meanwhile there's an angry mob hacking away on their keyboard in the background. The video isn't great though, it's still filled with flaws and the good parts of it are more like stating the obvious, "don't date trashy people." But it misses a whole lot
/r/RedPillWomen26/10/22 12:00 AM
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You can lie about something in the short term, but over the long term if the right questions are asked it will be found out, either straight from the horse's mouth or someone else that knows.
/r/RedPillWomen23/10/22 12:35 AM
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What? I’ve never heard this “advice” before Because it's not advice.. it's sabotage, lol.
/r/RedPillWomen04/10/22 01:49 PM
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Men bear enough burden on their shoulders and cannot complain about any of it. The last thing they need is a woman being a problem in their life. Any quality guy will kick a rude woman to the curb. She used to say to me that you have to be mean and degrading to men in order to keep them. You'll certainly get a type of guy. Misery loves company. I personally cannot respect a man who would tolerate such behavior. Am I in the wrong? You are in the right.
/r/RedPillWomen04/10/22 01:45 PM
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So, yeah, bullying then? If you feel the need to knock your partner off a pedestal when they feel good about themselves… what the heck? If I did that to my husband I would be a bully and abusive. No, no it's not like that. Negging is only done in the very beginning when a guy first meets a woman so he isn't immediately cast aside with the other 100 men she rejected. She thinks she's hot stuff and holier than thou because 100 simps kiss her feet every week. The RPM comes in and does not kiss her …
/r/RedPillWomen04/10/22 02:33 AM
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It is a different "catalyst" when you are throwing "celibate" into the mix, though. Why should that matter? Then it seems to me that people who hold celibacy at the pinnacle of their decision-making process are willing to take on a significant chance of divorce in order to satisfy basic human sexual needs. One 2015 study in the journal Economic Inquiry, for example, found that couples who dated for one to two years were 20 percent less likely to later get a divorce than those who dated less than…
/r/RedPillWomen03/10/22 03:36 PM
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Negging is not bullying (insults), it's more like a negative tease to deactivate a woman's guard who puts herself on a pedestal. It's most effective on very attractive women. Since men simp for them, she's constantly scanning for low-value simps to bounce them off. I imagine he’s not showered in a while It's strikes me a little odd that women ascribe all kinds of low value traits to RPM which is contrary to the whole point of it. RPM are not simps or incels or blue pillers etc., rather they are …
/r/RedPillWomen03/10/22 02:48 PM
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Also, you never know if it could be a disaster. Statistics suck across the board. It is a gamble. (And three months into is damn near a "do or die" time. ) The risk of a breakup is significantly higher in the early stages than the late stages. What carries more risk of a breakup, 2 weeks, 2 months, or 2 years? The latter has the lowest chance of an unknown dealbreaker surfacing as you've gotten to know each other better in that longer timeframe. If you're more comfortable with divorce than havin…
/r/RedPillWomen03/10/22 01:47 PM
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It sounds like you have different values. Sounds like he led you on with the celibacy claim because his actions are different than his words. he begs for us to have sex. ick. Obviously, that is a major and concerning red flag for me but I am also so confused because outside of that he is a catch and all I want. It's really a question of how important this specific value is to you. If it's a dealbreaker move on, if not, consider being flexible on this value. but I believe these boundaries exist f…
/r/RedPillWomen03/10/22 01:35 PM
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Instead of tapdancing around the proverbial landmine, why don't you two get married already? You're advocating to marry someone you met 2 months ago just so you can have sex? You should get an award for that recipe of disaster.
/r/RedPillWomen03/10/22 01:26 PM
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Thinking we should try to live on my husband's salary. He does pretty well, he is a tenured university professor at a good school. I have no plans to quit my job, but I just want to feel like I CAN quit my job. So which is it? You're both working but you want to "live on my husbands salary". You're married which means you have household income. Your household income is more than half a million, where you'll be making 2.5x to 3x your husband. But you want to "live on my husbands salary" which jus…
/r/RedPillWomen29/09/22 09:03 PM
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You're right, masculinity is definitely attitude and behavior. Appearing masculine is a thing because those appearances usually point to the underlying person actually being masculine (appearance is a signal), but it's not inherent masculinity. The proof is what you stated before: someone might look masculine but then when you meet them they're actually feminine. That's a false signal. Masculinity and femininity are not costumes one can wear. This is precisely why a modern woman that dresses fem…
/r/RedPillWomen28/09/22 07:05 PM
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That sentence is conflicting as you recognize what masculinity is but your perception of masculinity is based on signalling rather than masculinity itself.
/r/RedPillWomen28/09/22 06:15 PM
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Conservative men won’t be scared off or think you’re too much when a women says she wants marriage. A feminine man will be scared off because he’s not motivated by hard work. What if he's conservative and feminine? lol
/r/RedPillWomen28/09/22 04:18 PM
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I knew she would be really interested in me once she knew I was pregnant Interested how?
/r/RedPillWomen27/09/22 02:25 PM
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One of the interesting things about CPTSD is that the patient may not have any recollection of the trauma, making it more difficult to treat. This is something you'll learn in the book. People can also go decades without being diagnosed or realizing they have it, despite feeling different at various points in their lives but not being able to explain it. What you went through sounds really rough, I'm sorry you had to go through with that. I have been going to therapy since then, eventhough not s…
/r/RedPillWomen24/09/22 09:40 PM
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CPTSD is very serious and the main factor causing your issues. In something like 95%+ of cases it is developed from childhood trauma, mainly from neglect. Only in rare circumstances does it begin in adulthood, often something serious like getting raped. You cite having volatile relationships prior to the breakup, and also claim the relationship caused abandonment trauma but that's a major symptom of CPTSD. It sounds to me like you've always had it but the complex symptoms are presenting in diffe…
/r/RedPillWomen24/09/22 06:28 PM
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In order to reconcile after infidelity, you (the betrayed partner) will have to put your foot down and become very assertive. This means demanding honesty and respect. It means demanding transparency. Sometimes it means being cold or distant when you know your wayward (i.e., cheating) partner is being dishonest. This sounds like it will drive a wedge further between them. Changing ones character into one with unfavorable traits in order to manage the damage caused by the other party? That attitu…
/r/RedPillWomen24/09/22 06:04 PM
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I could never recover from the betrayal and abandonment trauma...... I was getting panic attacks every time I was around him again Are you diagnosed with something? This is atypical. But I also love doing all these things while being extremely feminine! What does this mean to you and how do you demonstrate femininity? Do you think that being accomplished, ambitious and independent can intimidate men A minority will be intimidated no matter what but the majority will not if you're actually femini…
/r/RedPillWomen24/09/22 03:55 PM
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What education and what career? You're speaking about something very generally but its likely to be a complex issue where correlation may not be causation. It can be a case-by-case scenario. Most of the time the breakdown is because women date across and up the dominance hierarchy. It's not the case that men are adverse to dating up... it's just really hard for them to do it, while women seek it. Depending on the schooling/career it could be a difference in interest. Depending on the schooling/c…
/r/RedPillWomen23/09/22 01:00 PM
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Men are not naturally polygamous. Men are naturally territorial and protective. You mean men have a natural tendency to be with various women (separately).
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/22 05:30 PM
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Most men err on the side of selfish in bed, as reported by many women that hookups are not great. However, sex via building chemistry with a man in a relationship is very good. If you're comparing to women who naturally just know because they are the same gender, the onus is on you to communicate your sexual needs/desires to a man. P.S. sounds like you've been with two very lame guys. There are all kinds of men: masculine, feminine, passionate, hardcore, kinky, repressed, inexperienced, experien…
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/22 05:28 PM
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So just to clarify, the fact that you two are opposite sex and getting increasingly closer is completely irrelevant? This is purely about time spent with one another in platonic friendships? For example, if your boyfriend's best friend was his female cousin and you were becoming best friends with his female cousin.
/r/RedPillWomen13/09/22 08:16 PM
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No I meant is he something other than heterosexual like asexual or demisexual?
/r/RedPillWomen11/09/22 02:15 AM
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Does he have an atypical sexuality? he isn't with me because of my looks Then what are the reasons that he has said?
/r/RedPillWomen11/09/22 01:40 AM
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This is an extreme reach and not helpful. Why he has anxiety is between him and a therapist.
/r/RedPillWomen08/09/22 05:04 PM
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There are situations where I advise people to stick it out, but this is not one of them. Only dating for two months so you both barely know each other. You're not engaged, married, nor have children together: you owe each other nothing. The guy has some serious problems right now, which are his problems, not yours. Either he won't change or he can work on his problems which can take years to solve. Neither are a great scenario for you. Considering it's so early, this could be poor vetting on you…
/r/RedPillWomen08/09/22 04:58 PM
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made me realize I have no worth in this world This is a catastrophizing thought that is not true. (down 80 lbs) A major accomplishment Even with my weight loss, I will have loose skin so my body won't be as desirable either way First of all you don't need to be an 8; slightly above average is more than enough. Second, you can always improve yourself, as you've been doing. Third, can you love a man that has loose skin? Fourth, you can get it removed. I don't see that happening with my age and loo…
/r/RedPillWomen08/09/22 05:16 AM
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let me tell you that there are plenty of attractive women who are single or in a relationship but miserable There are even more average looking women in relationships and happy.
/r/RedPillWomen08/09/22 05:08 AM
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Just saw this; great addition.
/r/RedPillWomen07/09/22 10:34 PM
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For example if I say something kind to my dad who is having a mental breakdown, my fiance asks why I even talk to my dad. I don't mind him asking me but he raises his voice and has a change in tone that really upsets me. There has to be some history here.
/r/RedPillWomen03/09/22 03:02 PM
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Is it a test or is he just making you laugh?
/r/RedPillWomen31/08/22 05:21 PM
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So not knowing is not an option and there is a hard 3-month line in the sand? 3 months is definitely enough time to tell if you want a LT relationship with the other person Maybe in your manual, but not everyone else's. It's perfectly valid for someone to not know after 3 months. Every person is unique, every relationship is unique. And after receiving that answer, it's equally as valid to walk away. It's an art, not a science.
/r/RedPillWomen30/08/22 04:59 PM
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I wrote a post on long-term relationship viability. It's tailored to someone that wanted to move across states and get married very fast, but I recommend you go through the list of questions for LTRs and pull whichever are relevant to you. Don't give your guy an ultimatum or put him on the spot, but start introducing some of these questions in conversation.
/r/RedPillWomen30/08/22 04:07 PM
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Under those circumstances it's very reasonable to wonder about making it official and going exlcusive. I'm careful to say that you can't force feelings nor rush something, but I'd say within 4 months and considering the frequency you see each other, most guys will know if something is worth committing to. The last piece is connecting with one another on a far deeper level than any friendship or STR: are you going into very deep conversations and bonding romantically?
/r/RedPillWomen30/08/22 03:43 PM
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What's a straight answer and are you implying an ultimatum? It's perfectly normal to not be sure about entering a relationship after only 3 months.
/r/RedPillWomen30/08/22 03:35 PM
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Are either of you dating other people? How much time do you spend together each week?
/r/RedPillWomen30/08/22 03:31 PM
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None of that matters because no woman here, including OP, is comfortable with their monogamous SO sending nudes to another woman. It also extends outside of this sub and breaks the typical social contract of being monogamous. No one is required to compromise their own values to accomodare a fetish. Judgment is being applied where it's due.
/r/RedPillWomen28/08/22 01:31 PM
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Taking the red pill is a metaphor that was born out of the the film The Matrix (1999) and what you found is the metaphorical definition. The Red Pill movement in the manosphere started in the early 2010s and expanded on game from the early 2000s. You can see the resemblance as The Red Pill (TRP) reveals how sexual dynamics really work beneath the surface for most people, which is different than what modern society leads you to believe.
/r/RedPillWomen28/08/22 01:21 PM
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You can find some insights there from how men think but there's a significant bias that you need to consider and take what they say with a grain of salt. What happens in TRP is not representative of men in general Those are men pursuing a Red Pill lifestyle with short-term goals to game women to get laid. Most of that sub is young and going through their fun phase or becoming a man phase (early 20s). Most of those guys later on, be it in their 30s or 40s, will probably have a change of heart tha…
/r/RedPillWomen28/08/22 12:55 PM
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Sometimes a post lacks information and the question is effectively asking us to come up with 10 different hypotheticals about what some man is thinking/feeling. The answer is: talk to him. That's why you always have to consider two sides and give the benefit of the doubt, speak to the facts, and ask questions for more information.
/r/RedPillWomen28/08/22 12:39 PM
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Do you mean like this... Those sound like visions for the sub and they make perfect sense. I mean for specific terms like "HVM" that you would normally find on the glossary. I see HVM pop up here multiple times per week, yet it is constantly applied with varying understandings and no one seems to know what it means or where it came from. It seems to be an important word because it's common here. It seems to be a useful word because that's how ladies are conceptualizing certain men. But without a…
/r/RedPillWomen26/08/22 10:01 PM
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Feminism as an ideology extends far beyond that statement but we're not here to discuss that (rule 5).
/r/RedPillWomen26/08/22 06:43 PM
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There are many things that are inherently debatable because they come down to preferences, sex being one of them. Others that are far from reality: another term that is debatable is "AWALT" which I do not subscribe to. Where I take issue is the "all" part because it's simply not true nor fair to women. Humans have a significant degree of variability, which has been studied quite extensively, and women are not absolute. I get that it's hyperbolic to drive home the point. If the term was MWALT, I …
/r/RedPillWomen26/08/22 05:47 PM
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It's supposed to be broad. Too broad brings problems and is counter to effective communication. Today I learned that one can be a RPW if she's never heard of The Red Pill nor Red Pill Women. I pick and choose which ideas help my relationship and use them. Does that make me a RPW? If there were, let's say, 10 principles of a RPW, and you selected 1 or 2 of them, yet everything else was in opposition, it would be very odd to call yourself a RPW. There would be a stark contrast with the woman adher…
/r/RedPillWomen26/08/22 03:48 PM
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Past is the past; does she act like a RPW today? can use RP principles to better their situation I absolutely agree that anyone can apply RP principles and they can selectively apply whichever they see fit. I encourage learning, growth, and development. But if someone acts in manners opposite to those principles, they are not a RPW even if they follow a couple. I don't harp on anyone here for that and I help nearly anyone here. This particular thread happens to be about a definition. What benefi…
/r/RedPillWomen26/08/22 03:19 PM
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These are not my personal preferences; it's basic theory of red pill. Just from a logical point of view, just language itself, I struggle to understand how you can effectively use words and communicate with people if the words you use do not have common definitions? You are basically speaking different languages at that point. How does that suddenly give you the inability to provide advice? HVM and average men live completely different lives and usually behave differently. Advice can differ, of …
/r/RedPillWomen26/08/22 02:29 PM
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There is no definitive "acting like a RPW". There absolutely is and it's quite simple: a RPW acts in accordance with red pill principles. If you don't act like it, why have principles at all? Riding the cock carousel doesn't make a red pill woman, dominating her man doesn't make a RPW. Lacking self-awareness/accountability and & refusing to change does not make a RPW. Being masculine does not make a RPW. Thinking men and women are the same does not make RPW. If anything, having strong definition…
/r/RedPillWomen26/08/22 02:03 PM
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Being a RPW just means you acknowledge the differences between men and women. It's about acting and behaving in the ways of a RPW, not acknowledging differences. There are many men that acknowledge red pill principles but behave like they're black pilled. There are many women that have become familiar with red pill principles but still behave like modern women. feminists Feminism and red pill are at odds. Anybody can subscribe here but it doesn't make them a RPW.
/r/RedPillWomen26/08/22 01:45 PM
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Sounds like you have a wonderful relationship. I wish you the best :)
/r/RedPillWomen25/08/22 11:43 PM
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The couple conclusions I can draw from this is your bf is definitely on the immature side, which nearly all men are at 25 (you'll see a shift in late 20s). He seems to be maturing as you speak. The other is that, I think you two actually care about one another and have a strong bond. I'm sure most people here are quick to criticize your relationship as you are presenting the worst of it. Had you spoken about the bond you two have and the things you value in one another people might sing a differ…
/r/RedPillWomen25/08/22 03:32 PM
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Of course it would have been nice to see each other, but I just want to know if you had important plans otherwise because I would feel really guilty - you didn’t, did you?” If I give him the benefit of the doubt here, maybe if you had to cancel important plans he would do something big to make up for that. but I think I had better just call it done asap so that I don’t sit around waiting for 6 weeks I would never wait 6 weeks. Time is precious. Both people need burning desire and actions speak l…
/r/RedPillWomen24/08/22 05:33 AM
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he told me that he would be very busy .. he next day he called me and said that he was feeling very unwell, So far seems fine. I told him that I did believe he was sick but wondered if he actually didn’t want to meet. Was this a test? I mean you're basically calling him a liar and nobody will take kindly to that. he was quite offended, said that it was very unfair of me, that there would have been no purpose in making me wait around if he had no intention of meeting, Yeah he makes a very strong …
/r/RedPillWomen24/08/22 05:04 AM
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Great post. I think the husband and "friend" would paint different pictures from their perspective.
/r/RedPillWomen22/08/22 11:29 PM
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Women are hypergamous according to what they value. I have a friend that for several years was the only income earner, then married her man, and still today makes double what he does. Why? Because 1) She finds him particularly attractive and "her type" despite him being average looking 2) he's traditionally masculine in being able to build or repair anything with his bare hands and wit 3) their personalities click exceptionally well & they are magnetic... but most importantly 4) he is always the…
/r/RedPillWomen22/08/22 10:38 PM
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He told her he’d pay his share There his intent. Then some mistake happened. Then he made you whole afterwards. I don't see a problem here. In terms of the percentages it seems like the waitress punched in your total and gave the machine to him. He then asked me to cover for him, and I didn’t want a fuss so I did Could be quick thinking on his part. So what this does is ensures you pay your part, while he knows he will make you whole later. Had he paid everything, either he wouldn't get a dollar…
/r/RedPillWomen22/08/22 05:13 PM
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Did he intentionally not pay and hope you wouldn't notice or did the waiter just split it in half? And how much $ are we talking here that he owed you?
/r/RedPillWomen22/08/22 03:17 PM
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Typically, standard relationship advice is to move on from exes. If it got to the point where it's serious enough to break up, time to move on. If not, the question is, what has changed/will change this time? Kevin Samuels treated this slightly differently in a couple cases where it's mostly the woman that is the destroyer of the relationship. If a couple has children together and she wants a family, it's a good idea to see if you can resolve your differences with the father of your children. If…
/r/RedPillWomen22/08/22 01:03 PM
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This is the first samesex post I've seen on a RP sub and first time I'm asked on RPW about attracting a girl. TRP is fundamentally based on heterosexual relationships. If you've read RP theory you would probably have figured that out. It's based on differences in biology between men and women and typically more traditional gender roles between heterosexual couples. But with a samesex couples there aren't really traditional roles in that sense... anything goes. Any of the samesex couples I know I…
/r/RedPillWomen21/08/22 05:24 AM
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These days men aren't really men until they're like 28.
/r/RedPillWomen20/08/22 05:53 PM
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Reddit has a strong bias towards liberalism and women and anyone that identifies as a liberal woman. Male red pill sub = ban. FDS Hate Club = Praised. Support women but question men becoming transwomen = ban.
/r/RedPillWomen20/08/22 05:09 PM
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That said, we firmly believe that advice should be from a "we know this works" That's fair. I assume you mean from a Redpill lens, not a traditionalist lens? There are circumstances where these two disagree. I'll add for people reading - if an OP says that she's of a particular faith and that colors her approach then it's absolutely reasonable to bring it up. Short of that, advice shouldn't be based in your particular religious morality. This is a good rule of thumb
/r/RedPillWomen17/08/22 07:51 PM
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Yeah but it's another get-thin-quick scheme that won't work because there's no lifestyle change nor mention of nutrition. If someone eats 3,000 calories per day when their baseline caloric need is 1,800 at a healthy weight, you can do that treadmill trick to burn another 500 calories. But the moment you stop, you're back to overeating. Most of weight loss comes down to nutrition. so I gave the fastest solution to losing bodyweight that is known other than surgery Starving yourself is even faster…
/r/RedPillWomen17/08/22 07:29 PM
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The lingerie videos are softcore porn. Do you consider the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show to be porn? Youtube's age requirement is 13. If a 13-year-old girl watches lingerie outfit videos on Youtube, is she watching porn? We can argue semantics all day. You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere without moving the goal posts. I'm trying to figure out precisely where that line is because you seem to have a very different idea of what porn is than the majority of people, including Youtube thems…
/r/RedPillWomen17/08/22 07:02 PM
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Agree with all. The one thing I'll add is that fitness is a lifestyle change. Implementing these changes are very effective but need to be sustainable.
/r/RedPillWomen17/08/22 05:29 PM
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U gonna do that for life?
/r/RedPillWomen17/08/22 05:25 PM
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Do you consider the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show to be pornography?
/r/RedPillWomen17/08/22 04:56 PM
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With that being said, we both agreed early on in our relationship that he’d stop watching porn for many reasons, You communicated porn as a boundary and he obliged. Great relationship skills. mainly because it made me uncomfortable and I felt like it could lead to unhealthy expectations or even just an overall unhealthy relationship with real sex I'm hearing insecurities and fears. watched the videos of her trying on lingerie just honestly made me feel a clusterfuck of emotions an insecurity res…
/r/RedPillWomen17/08/22 04:20 PM
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the portrayal of sexual subject matter for the exclusive purpose of sexual arousal A very vague definition that means women's channels on Youtube for the purpose of trying on clothes is not porn. printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings. The definition that nearly everyone thinks of when they hear "porn".
/r/RedPillWomen17/08/22 04:07 PM
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High value men do not lie or misrepresent themselves. A principle of a HVM is integrity, yes. If he said he won’t watch porn, he shouldn’t be watching porn. He's watching Youtube, not porn. Youtube is not a porn site and porn is against their terms of service and is removed. If he wanted to continue watching lingerie videos, he should’ve been honest and said, “OP, I know you don’t like porn but I will continue to watch lingerie videos on YouTube.” Sorry but you're speaking from your manual. You …
/r/RedPillWomen17/08/22 03:56 PM
1

conservatism and traditionalism? I have never heard of red pill being conservative and traditional. It is quite the opposite of of that, despite the main difference between RPW and TRP being relationship-oriented. You may be able to apply many red pill principles to conservatism, traditionalism, and religion but it certainly does not make them congruent.
/r/RedPillWomen17/08/22 03:47 PM
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I don't quite get it? Tl;dr you will always want something else?
/r/RedPillWomen16/08/22 06:22 PM
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Text has the advantage of clearly thinking out your responses, responding more rationally, and re-reading. Verbal conversations can become explosive and snowball irrationally. It depends how healthy the argument is. I enjoy sorting out some problems over text with long responses, but if you're talking about taking jabs at one another then best to speak it out so you can adjust to someone's emotions.
/r/RedPillWomen16/08/22 06:19 PM
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A HVM might.
/r/RedPillWomen15/08/22 12:33 AM
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Was deleted. Here
/r/RedPillWomen14/08/22 04:55 PM
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Balanced comment, unbalanced culture.
/r/RedPillWomen14/08/22 04:54 PM
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The woman who asks men to buy everyone a shot…what’s that going to do? Contribute to weight gain?
/r/RedPillWomen14/08/22 03:31 PM
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they don't care about their friends' wellbeing, they only care about how uncomfortable it would make them to watch their friend experience embarrassment or to improve themselves. It is especially bad when the friend's improvement is weight loss because it cuts through the lies they tell themselves that it's impossible and unnecessary. Oof, too real. You just filled up my truth needs for the month. "they only care about how uncomfortable they would feel if they were real with her."
/r/RedPillWomen14/08/22 03:30 PM
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What was your comment? It was removed by a mod.
/r/RedPillWomen14/08/22 03:19 PM
1

the guy at the gym who harasses other people, records himself, and demands that other people hurry so he can hog the bench press? Or is he the guy that waits patiently, respects other people’s privacy, and helps others when needed? The former is a low-value man. The latter is a high-value man. That is such an oversimplification and narrow example that has nothing to do with the definition of a HVM. It's like saying a guy that looks serious is low value and a guy that always smiles is high value.…
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/22 08:23 PM
1

Those are green flags compared to trying to fix mental health or insecurities.
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/22 08:16 PM
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It's not for me, either. I think an open relationship cannot achieve a bond as strong and deep as monogamy.
/r/RedPillWomen09/08/22 02:56 AM
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Well, when you think about it, that's what an alpha can do. It's his choice to exercise his options or not. And it's a woman's choice whether to stick around for that.
/r/RedPillWomen09/08/22 02:41 AM
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Do you really think it’s best for women to internalize these anxieties and live their life as if they are on a clock? If the clock is a reality, you acknowledge the clock. What you did above was deny that a clock exists, which is incongruent with TRP and RPW. You can go to any other women's sub on Reddit and variety of white lies and fluffy comments to boost someone's self-esteem, but they do not change the person's reality. It's an attempt to make the person feel better in a fleeting moment. Th…
/r/RedPillWomen09/08/22 02:27 AM
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Oh social proof. So just, physical attractiveness. I thought it meant something like "makes people laugh in group settings."
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/22 03:10 PM
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Socially attractive What does this mean?
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/22 12:57 PM
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This whole idea of hitting the wall when you’re 30 is nonsense. The peak is around 23-25, the alarm goes off at 30, and the wall is 35. It is not nonsense. It is reality and grounded in biology: physical attractiveness declines and fertility starts dropping quickly after 35. The wall is less of an issue if the couple does not want children, but it still matters in terms of SMV. You cannot tell me that a 35yo woman has the same SMV as her 25yo self (everything else equal). The wall is a core tene…
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/22 03:51 PM
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That's only the first lie of the relationship! I wonder how the rest of the relationship would go :)
/r/RedPillWomen30/07/22 05:28 PM
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Oh I was talking in general. Upper body exercises are very good for a woman too and strength is great for everyone. A little bit of upper-body muscle is also attractive (fitness physique). Women build muscle slower than men (lower testosterone) so even if a woman works out for 2 years it's not even possible to look bulky. But a natural woman can definitely look manly doing 4+ years of a man's routine and that's when SMV drops.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/22 04:31 PM
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look for a man at mass. I thought this was a metaphor for branching out your hunt for a man, but then I realized it's church
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/22 04:27 PM
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ohhh, I have not considered that one before. Very interesting. I thought it meant something like she causes prolonged grief in the relationship, therefore raising herself into a power position and beating down on the guy emotionally. But I think the example I'm thinking of here is the professional victim mindset. In other words, he's always in the wrong about something and needs to grovel. Thank you!
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/22 04:25 AM
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Cut him off. The relationship wasn't a friendship to begin with because it had romantic intentions. If either of you are attracted to one another a genuine friendship cannot occur. And every minute you waste on this guy is a minute you lose finding a guy who is very interested in you
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/22 02:22 AM
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Yes that's correct. If he hasn't seriously pursued you for a relationship in six months but is hinting at sex he isn't that into you. If you were a top priority he would have made very intentional moves long ago.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/22 02:15 AM
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will pursue a relationship with a woman he really likes even without sex Actually that's a core trait of beta males. Value in the SMP is determined by SMV. If this guy has access to sex in the SMP (this is difficult for men to get) that means other women consider him valuable and his SMV is above average. A higher SMV man will not wait around forever because he has abundance. In this case, sounds like he might plate her and shes lower priority, hence why he hasnt made big moves or moved on (but …
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/22 12:58 AM
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I always thought women could post but it was like throwing a steak in front of guard dogs
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/22 09:53 PM
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What do you mean by prolonged grief?
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/22 09:48 PM
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The other condition is exercises for a male physique rather than a female physique. If she's going for bigger glutes that's one thing, but bulking her arms, shoulders, chest, and lats for a v-taper is a negative to SMV.
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/22 09:38 PM
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Yeah there's a lack of information about him, but he's not diving into commitment without sex and apparently can get sex elsewhere.
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/22 09:25 PM
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Sounds like a pretty normal guy, maybe even a guy with above average value. All depends how much you're into him and if he's worth it and how serious he is about being in a relationship. Just remember that sex != relationship, so if you're not okay with him walking after then this is probably not the right setup for you (risky)
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/22 05:32 PM
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Do you value masculinity or intellectualism more in attraction?
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/22 06:34 PM
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There's a lot of variance among feeling/thinking types or how masculine/feminine people are. So you're going to have men that are a brick wall and men that are more open. It's okay for men to reveal feelings, be vulnerable, even bit a bit emotional with their partner. These are often humanizing and attractive traits for many women. But there's a condition: the man cannot be more emotional than the woman. The point isn't for every man to be a wall, it's for emotional balance in each pairing.
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/22 03:02 PM
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I could write a long post about fitness & how to lose weight but I think others will have that covered. I'll offer some advice that often isn't mentioned: Fitness is about small lifestyle changes, not "get fit quick" schemes where you resort back to your previous lifestyle that got you there in the first place. That's why diets fail... you can stop eating fast food or drop you calories but if you going back to old habits you'll end up right back where you start. Some part of your past lifestyle …
/r/RedPillWomen13/07/22 03:27 AM
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Enthusiasm and excitability are very positive and desired feminine traits. But the swearing is a big no-no. You aren't going to fundamentally become a completely different person, but you can make amendments to your current self to get big results. Start with the swearing and you should be fine. I cant help but feel dirty and gross This is a negative thought inspired by your inner critic and is completely false. You're someone who is enthusiastic, girly, put together, confident, person that happ…
/r/RedPillWomen04/07/22 03:48 AM
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I’m not moving tomorow, I told him I want to take 4-5 more months 4-5 more months means you've known each other 6-7 months at which point you'll move in and act (be) a wife. It's very fast. What relationship experience do you have? And just curious, do you come from a culture or state where this accelerated dating is common? Keep in mind when you move in with him, you're moving into his home, as opposed to marrying someone and buying a home together. Statistics are clear that moving into someone…
/r/RedPillWomen28/06/22 08:24 PM
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Sounds like a marriage. If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. Sounds like he wants the benefits of a wife but not the liability of a marriage because you met two months ago. Depending where you live, the structure is still a common-law marriage prior to when that specific title kicks in... hence the trial period. The distance is a problem, preventing you from having a traditional relationship living apart. So your solution is to accelerate the …
/r/RedPillWomen28/06/22 07:44 PM
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What's his reasoning for this arrangement?
/r/RedPillWomen28/06/22 07:09 PM
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Excellent guide! A woman (typically but not necessarily post-wall) who has been abandoned by an Alpha male. No matter how great her new man is, she will perceive him as failing to meet the standard of the alpha she was previously associated with. Due to hypergamy, a woman cannot date backwards, once she gets say, a male 8, she cannot date below a male 8 and be happy with him. Does she have to get abandoned or can she also leave the alpha on her own? Perhaps she leaves on her own with the expecta…
/r/RedPillWomen23/06/22 02:49 AM
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Wise :)
/r/RedPillWomen23/06/22 12:36 AM
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On aggregate, yes because most men desire feminine traits. However, the other side of the coin is: if being masculine is unique in some way, the men that are into that will be really into that. The problem comes if there's a large proportion of masculine women yet few men desiring masculine women. At that point, you either compete against the abundance of masculine women for the minority of men desiring masculine women or you become more feminine in order to become more attractive to men in gene…
/r/RedPillWomen22/06/22 05:12 AM
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There's definitely an inverse relationship. My personal experience and nearly all relationships I know of work like so: when relationship satisfaction is high, sex is good.... likewise, when sex is good relationship satisfaction is higher. Positive correlation. But when relationship satisfaction drops, so does sex (dead beadroom), then physical relief has to happen somehow, which ends up being an increase in porn use. Negative correlation. When people are in happy relationships with healthy sex …
/r/RedPillWomen12/06/22 05:37 AM
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Look up the studies that show how it effects marriages and the brain. It's linked to lower martial satisfaction rates. But which came first? The porn or the low marital satisfaction?
/r/RedPillWomen12/06/22 04:15 AM
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The overwhelming majority of successful relationships have IQs within 1 standard deviation of each partner. This does mean that people with an average IQ will have the most potential mates available for LTRs. The higher (and lower) IQ the harder it gets. You can probably imagine why most geniuses struggle with dating. In terms of why these relationships fail/succeed, every relationship needs the right amount of challenge for both partners. I've written lengthy posts about intelligence on other s…
/r/RedPillWomen15/04/22 05:21 AM
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There has been research done that while men and women have relatively similar expectation values for IQ (100 for women vs 102 for men) the distribution is an important qualitative difference. While most women tend to stay within 1 standard deviation of the mean we see men with much greater representation 2 standard deviations and over (in both directions.) Hence why you see more women in college (though often pursuing very 'easy' degrees - psychology, sociology, education, english, biology, etc.…
/r/RedPillWomen15/04/22 05:07 AM
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Do appearances encourage commitment? On its own, no. Appearance draws in a man, but personality and feminine qualities keeps him around. To your second question: If a man is already attracted to your non-physical traits then appearance can encourage commitment because the physical part is important for the long-term as well.
/r/RedPillWomen15/04/22 04:37 AM
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May I ask what is the specific side effect of the medication? Is it increased appetite or a hormonal change, etc? I was on a medication that caused increase in appetite and I never felt full, ending up with rapid weight gain at a rate of 20 lbs per month.
/r/RedPillWomen15/04/22 04:33 AM
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Really good source. However, it gave me more questions than answers. I'm particularly interested in why people are getting divorced later because there could be a whole host of reasons completely irrelevant to me. It's less helpful to take a broad approach looking at some data over the lifetime of thousands of people without knowing more specific circumstances. I also think the studies fail to measure happiness of people who stay together. What if people stay married despite being unhappy (quali…
/r/RedPillWomen06/09/21 07:44 PM
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Who is to say that boomers who got married but ended in divorce was not due to the rising feminist movement? Can you elaborate? I don't quite follow. For millennials what I am seeing is, % of single mothers increasing Because of no-fault divorce, heavily biased family courts, promiscuity with stupid decisions, cultural acceptance of single motherhood (as opposed to like 60 years ago) etc. there's a lot that goes into that rate. It's multi-faceted. % of egg freezing increasing, % of single woman …
/r/RedPillWomen06/09/21 07:09 PM
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Millennials are '80-'95 or '81-96. Gen Z is 1996 or 1997, so they are turning about 25. divorce/cheating rates with the baby boomers etc Infidelity in marriage is about 18%-20% and it's split pretty evenly between men and women (+- 0.5%). It’s just with no marriage or protection in place it’s easier to be left with nothing. A woman is only left with nothing if she was a stay-at-home partner, unmarried, and no children. That is extremely rare. Stay-at-home women often have marriage protection or …
/r/RedPillWomen06/09/21 06:54 PM
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Then that would be a dealbreaker due to misalignment of goals/expectations prior to a relationship being established. Boundaries are related to behaviors, things said, allocation of things within a relationship. With boundaries there's room to negotiate & compromise, there's often push-pull dynamic between the couple. Boundaries refine a relationship. I'll give you an analogy: imagine your relationship is a game of soccer where the two players are you and your SO. You are playing on a wide open …
/r/RedPillWomen06/09/21 06:33 PM
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That's still an ultimatum. "This relationship can only progress if you marry me before moving in." And we both know you wont be sticking around forever unmarried- you would leave. In fact, if he said no, then you'd end the relationship because of your "boundary" which is still an ultimatum. A boundary would be a mode of being you can operate within. Your "boundary" is a decision the relationship hinges on.
/r/RedPillWomen06/09/21 04:12 PM
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I'm a millennial and I haven't seen the situation where a guy in his 30s drops his partner for someone else in my social circles. Two things might be happening in yours: 1) the relationship wasn't great to begin with 2) if all that a woman has is her youth and beauty- things she was born with- those will fade and her value will fall off a cliff. Essentially, she wasn't a well-rounded person so she hits the wall even harder.
/r/RedPillWomen06/09/21 03:49 PM
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One thing I appreciate about red pill teaching, is that you can’t control others, but you can always control yourself. What's crazy to me is this used to be common sense. For my friends and I, we all communicated our desires. But there’s a go with the flow mentality with millennials and gen z that wasn’t as prevalent in previous generations. There can be some value gained here because a lot of boomers got married but ended in divorce. Marriage rates are down but so are divorce rates with milleni…
/r/RedPillWomen06/09/21 03:39 PM
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Two thing I noticed in both. Moving in prolonged the relationship. Convenience is a strong drug. This sounds logical to me and there might be some merit to it. What evidence do you have? The alternative scenarios are: 1) everything was great until suddenly it wasn't and they broke up, but you're assuming they knew the relationship was bad for awhile and 2) I know tons of people that stay too long in an unsuccessful relationship who dont live together, what's to say this isn't a type of person in…
/r/RedPillWomen06/09/21 03:35 PM
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This is where you’ll see many men start thinking about another women, because that need for pursuit is engrained. If a man has committed to you in a monogamous relationship, especially by moving in, why is he searching for another woman? In this case, is moving in really the problem, lol When you wait to move in when you are married, the pursuit will be “victorious” in your man’s eyes vs a marriage that he had to do to please you. (I.e. you gave him an ultimatum) Whether a man feels victorious o…
/r/RedPillWomen05/09/21 03:22 PM
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Honestly, you probably come off as crazy/desperate. Tell all my girlfriends this and they don't listen lol When you point your finger at someone 3 fingers are always pointing back at you. Have you considered that maybe your girlfriends are right? If you're trying to date a middle age guy (30s) who wants to settle down ASAP, that might be okay. However, you're probably scaring off most eligible bachelors with your expectations. 21yo my time is valuable. Everyone's time is valuable. You come acros…
/r/RedPillWomen05/09/21 03:01 PM
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The core of TRP is self-improvement. Anyone can take the pill. But will you swallow it?
/r/RedPillWomen03/09/21 12:06 AM
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This sounds like a case where a personality test might be helpful to tailor advice for you. Could you take these test and tell me your MBTI Type? Quick Thorough There are different strengths/weaknesses for each type, so advice will vary.
/r/RedPillWomen30/08/21 02:41 PM
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Ah fuck, OP is a bot. This one got me good. Was wondering why OP has made 0 responses in a highly active thread. Responding to hundreds of subreddits with copied posts, most posts are offtopic/irrelevant nonsense. Apparently lives in 5 cities across the world simultaneously according to post history, lol. This bot seems to have picked a clever post for our sub!
/r/RedPillWomen28/08/21 12:53 AM
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The problem I'm seeing here is generalization. That's exactly what TRP is. On top of that, everything you're describing is talking about sex, and not relationships. I accounted for the change in ratio for relationships. Honestly, I'm about average in the looks department. I've dated women that were "out of my league," because my personality carried me. I'm confident, I'm smart, I'm funny, I'm kind. And frankly, the people who dismiss me solely based on my "attractiveness" don't deserve me in the…
/r/RedPillWomen27/08/21 08:04 PM
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Many people have diagnosable disorders such as chronic depression and bipolar disorder that require medication. Going for a walk in nature, getting a promotion, or cracking a joke with friends won't fix their brain chemistry.
/r/RedPillWomen27/08/21 07:32 PM
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You could be the absolute hottest person in the world, with an absolute garbage personality, and if I was just looking for a quick one-night-stand, I'd probably want to take you home. But if I was looking for a partner, a wife, someone that will make me happy, that I would want to share my experiences with? You'd be shown the door and asked never to return. This is, of course, personal preference, but I know I'm not the only one who thinks this way. I like this post because it's about your perso…
/r/RedPillWomen27/08/21 07:27 PM
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However, personality matters far more than looks. Personality does not matter "far more" than looks to men. It matters more for LTR than STR. However, men are not pursuing ugly women with good personalities. Men first find women that meet their attractiveness threshold, or an SMV looks-match, THEN pick the one with the best personality. If she doesn't look the part her personality won't make up for it. The looks:personality ratio is about 80:20 or 90:10 for STR and for LTR it's about 60:40 or 50…
/r/RedPillWomen27/08/21 06:34 PM
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Because your depression wasn't chemical- it was because your life sucked. You fixed your life and the problem went away. Sometimes depression is chemical, not environmental.
/r/RedPillWomen27/08/21 06:27 PM
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If you're depressed because your life sucks: fix your life. If life is fine but your brain chemistry is unbalanced: talk to a psychiatrist.
/r/RedPillWomen27/08/21 06:26 PM
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I have a nice body but that's it. Height, weight, dress size? Most women are overweight; a third are obese. Any woman can stand out with fitness and that's because so few people commit to it. If your face is below average but your body is average, then put in the work to get an above-average body. Most people don't self-improve, which means even people that are 3s and 4s can become 6s at a minimum. A 6 will have sufficient options. And a femcel is really, really low. I mean a 1 or 2. The only wa…
/r/RedPillWomen27/08/21 06:18 PM
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Rule 1 and 9. Try MRP
/r/RedPillWomen26/08/21 09:45 PM
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It definitely sounds like his personality is on the tail end of agreeableness. If he wants to change, he can improve it. I'd like to make it clear, a person is only going to change if they want to, you shouldn't try to change him yourself. If he wants to learn to be more assertive he definitely can, especially the part of establishing and enforcing healthy boundaries. A psychologist who's familiar with this training can help with that. JBP has treated this throughout his career
/r/RedPillWomen26/08/21 12:30 AM
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Your bf is probably very high in trait agreeableness and could benefit from assertiveness training. Or, you could be the leader in the relationship and take on the role of the person saying no. I have a couple friends that are like this- husband is a golden retriever and wife is a pit bull. To my knowledge, there isn't much of a RP answer if you picked a guy that's opposite of RP. P.S. have you brought up your concerns to him?
/r/RedPillWomen25/08/21 08:41 PM
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This. It's not a relationship. Long distance / remote =! relationship. So much of in-person is needed, especially intimacy, attraction, attitude, behavior etc,. Learning about someone online is either 1) a friendship or 2) a long extension of the first 3 dates of getting to know someone. Not a relationship. An example of an LDR would be someone's current SO going away for college exchange with the expectation of continuing the relationship afterwards.
/r/RedPillWomen25/08/21 01:59 PM
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^Facts.
/r/RedPillWomen24/08/21 03:40 AM
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I cannot cook at his house, either … the kitchen grosses me out. Why don't you clean it first? When a friend of mine ended up in the hospital her best friend cleaned up her place spotless for when she got back. that’s another issue related to his new laziness… Depression is not laziness. It is one of the most debilitating illnesses in existence. Sapolsky, a professor of neurological sciences at Stanford, makes the case that depression is the worst disease you can get. I recommend you watch his l…
/r/RedPillWomen24/08/21 03:12 AM
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When you talk to him it's important that he's in a decent mood. Sometimes people are extra irritable in the mornings or right after work. That would not be the time to talk; just make sure he's in a good head space and receptive. I don’t want it to be more than a willpower issue, but it clearly is. If it's something mental it will not be clear. It will be a complex issue that only he is inwardly familiar with, yet still doesn't understand until he works with a professional. Mental illnesses are …
/r/RedPillWomen24/08/21 02:40 AM
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Any relationship that lasts decades will get tested by something like this. This is the time when he needs you. All the red pill shit about him being a man, the leader, taking charge- that goes out the window when someone is ill. This is a time when he needs love and support from his SO more than ever. I think he really needs to speak with a doctor, likely just the family doctor at first about his health, which could lead to a referral depending if something physical or mental is going on. If th…
/r/RedPillWomen24/08/21 02:06 AM
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You are doing it for yourself. You are the primary beneficiary of the weight loss. Your energy levels will rise/balance, your confidence will rise, mobility & functionality increases, you will be more appealing and garner indirect benefits, your mental health will improve, your physical health improves, and it might lead to a relationship that further improves your life. You benefit from all of this, not someone else. You're doing it for yourself.
/r/RedPillWomen23/08/21 10:13 PM
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The reason for breaking up wasn't loving you and that was the truth. In what world do you love someone and break up with them? You don't. You stay with the people you love. But in what world do you get back with someone you don't love? What probably happened is he doesn't love you and knows this, but once he was single he realized 1) he doesn't have other options right now 2) he wants to keep you around for sex until he finds another girl 3) he wants to get back together because he doesn't like …
/r/RedPillWomen22/08/21 10:41 PM
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but I thought that he loves me He made it clear that he doesn't when he dumped you. So where did that come from in the first place? Why did he say he didn't love you and what has changed now? I'm just working off the facts here and I'm not alone in this—everyone in this thread is telling you so. His actions are inexcusable whether it's 1) He doesn't love you 2) He's manipulative and 3) Emotionally immature, that leaves no reason to stay. Telling someone you don't love them and dumping them is a …
/r/RedPillWomen22/08/21 08:41 PM
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I wonder what value I broke It's going to be one that is innate and unexplainable. It's along the lines of feeling cheated on, even though you did nothing wrong. This is dangerous blue-pilled thinking and he's being a bit possessive. he said he didn’t have feelings for me and that he doesn’t want anything serious with me If he wants to get back together It's out of a place of fear, insecurity, and that he has no other option. This will blow up in your face again. There is no genuine desire. Time…
/r/RedPillWomen22/08/21 02:05 PM
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Relationships are built on the foundation of trust. If you don't have trust, you don't have anything. Your ex said he doesn't trust you. He also said he won't get over what you did and I firmly believe that. A minority of guys wouldn't care at all about this, but that would be clear from the start. The fact that this is an issue for him means it always will be because it seems to have broken one of his values- even though he's completely irrational that's the way he feels. The guy is also extrem…
/r/RedPillWomen22/08/21 01:50 PM
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That's a lot of money to spend on someone you're not married to. Your lives arent actually joined; consider it a donation. It's his responsibility to sort that stuff out. If he hasn't put the work in before to get a job then making an "investment" like this is actually risky, even though it's probably necessary at this point. My point is, yes he should do it if it's a shortcut to get his life in order but at his own cost. It adds pressure on him that its your money. It also might establish a pre…
/r/RedPillWomen22/08/21 03:35 AM
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I'm left wondering why you wrote a post about your parents hating your SO but didn't attempt to explain why.
/r/RedPillWomen21/08/21 10:43 PM
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They were broken up, yet he's hurt that "his girl" slept with another guy. His turn was up; in fact, he made it that way. I'm hitting on the fact that he's being a little possessive.
/r/RedPillWomen21/08/21 05:31 AM
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Agree. Mental health diagnoses thrown around by internet analysts does nothing but harm the real people suffering.
/r/RedPillWomen20/08/21 08:45 PM
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Every time you elaborate on the situation this guy becomes lower and lower value. Run.
/r/RedPillWomen20/08/21 03:54 PM
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Ask what you can do to prove you love him. Tell him the way he says what you’ve told us hurts you. It's already over. When a woman gives herself to another man sexually, he's unlikely to get over it. When a man commits to another woman, she's unlikely to get over it. The reverse: when a man has a ONS, she's likely able to get over it. When a woman demonstrates only emotional connection to another man, he's likely able to get over it. This guy is extremely insecure and already said he'll forever …
/r/RedPillWomen20/08/21 03:47 PM
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"She's not your woman, it's just your turn"
/r/RedPillWomen20/08/21 03:39 PM
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Retroactively mate guarding a woman who isn't your mate. This is the tip of the iceberg of his emotional immaturity. EDIT: I should clarify, this isn't actual mate guarding but it demonstrates the ridiculousness of his stance.
/r/RedPillWomen20/08/21 02:40 PM
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2) time is extremely precious to HVM and I hate to break it to you but they don't 'goof' around with girls in the way you are describing.. (hint; this guy is not a HVM, might want to read a bit more about what being 'high value' entails, men are rarely HV before age 35) Took the words right out of my mouth. I see dozens upon dozens of posts on here about dating a HVM, when these hopeful romantics mean, "Particular guy I'm Interested in" and not "High Value Man." HVM is a very specific term that …
/r/RedPillWomen19/08/21 10:45 PM
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Short-term relationships and long-term relationships. I would not really date a client. Oh for sure, this makes sense. I thought you meant you would not date a man who purchased content from a different girl. That would be a contradiction, it would be like a woman having an N-count of 50 but she will only date men with an N-count under 5; doesn't make sense to hold a guy to a different standard. Remote sex. I only do private sessions. Ah okay, so your identity is known. This is one level below f…
/r/RedPillWomen19/08/21 12:10 PM
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It's definitely a complex issue and that's because every guy's opinion will be different and varying levels of what they are okay with. If your identity is hidden you're better off. My content is mostly videocalls, Does this mean essentially remote sex with clients? Or cam girl? All of my dates i had after started this "business" i told them before hand. Is not something i would keep in secret because is so easy to find out. This is good. So you already have an idea of the proportion of men who …
/r/RedPillWomen19/08/21 11:55 AM
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You are not less valuable because you do sex work and don't let anyone tell you that you are not! I'm afraid this is a white lie. In the context of TRP, sex work decreases a woman's SMV. I know that you're trying to be noble in boosting someone's self-esteem, but when someone is asking for help you have to be honest and offer helpful advice. If you're talking about something more intrinsic like value of the self or value as a human, yes I agree with you. Someone's value as a human is completely …
/r/RedPillWomen19/08/21 11:46 AM
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Adults are free to become sex workers but there are consequences that come with that, just as anything has its pros and cons. sell some content Why kind of content are you selling? I'm afraid that this will make me have problems on my future relationships It definitely will, there's no question about that. A lot of relationship-minded men will not be okay with this. It's reduced your pool of available suitors but that's a sunk-cost, meaning it's already happened and you cannot change that fact, …
/r/RedPillWomen19/08/21 11:33 AM
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Having concrete plans is more of a personality trait. Not everyone is forward thinking and plans ahead with concrete plans. In fact, half the world just doesn't. We think differently and that's okay. If you guys are on the same page with your goals, I'll have to agree on advice from others in this conversation that if everything else is great it's a little early, at 2.5 months, to get caught up about the biggest long-term stages. He's definitely not ready for kids that's for sure. A man needs to…
/r/RedPillWomen18/08/21 04:41 AM
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Have you sat down and expressed this to him? Rather than make assumptions based off mixed signals you need to talk with him about your future together, each other's goals, and make it clear that this is important to you.
/r/RedPillWomen17/08/21 08:33 PM
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At what point in witholding sex will you start to lose good men? Very few men will wait around forever, especially the ones with value/options because they might feel strung along, too. It's a two-way straight. If your strategy is to not have sex until you're married I'm afraid you'll cut out nearly all your options in today's environment. Outside of religion, I've never heard of this happening. The other point of view from the guy's perspective is, if the girl has already slept around but sudde…
/r/RedPillWomen16/08/21 05:20 PM
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Men aren't forcing women into STRs though. These guys can spin plates with women who choose to be in STRs, FWB, ONS, flings etc. That's not the guy's fault when women choose to lead a life of wild party years. A guy is faulted if he's straight up lying to her in a monogamous relationship. This also applies to women. If women lose their value in their 30s, all it takes is 1 or 2 failed relationships in their 20s to close the prime marriage window. A long-term monogamous relationship in your 20s i…
/r/RedPillWomen16/08/21 05:07 PM
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Yeah, I agree. Appreciate your insight and shedding light on the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 03:46 PM
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I read his post history. Its foolish to think you can label someone like that from a few comments here. There's a distinction between narcissistic tendencies as behavior/psychological framework present in trauma victims, than to label someone with a undiagnosed narcissism disorder. At times I thought that this whole chain was a waste of my time, but I'm grateful to have learned about narcissistic rage as that psychological and emotional state accurately describes what a lot of trauma victims on …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 03:19 PM
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That's not at all what happened. If you growl like a dog it doesnt mean you're a dog. If you experience hair loss like a patient on chemotherapy, that symptom doesnt mean you have cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:36 AM
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Idk about the other guy but that certainly wasn't my intent. The fact that you think its an insult is clear sign of misunderstanding. Anyways have a good night
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:30 AM
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Na, that's not what I'm saying. I've explained it multiple times, even sourcing the definitions and I don't know any other way to explain it. If you don't know the difference between a disorder, narcissistic tendencies as traits present in all people, and "narcissistic" used as an adjective in front of rage to describe 1 symptom with paralleled psychological state, I can't help anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:01 AM
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Maybe a slight misunderstanding on my part because you initially responded in a chain about FDS, I didn't see that you said purple pill debate instead. Trying to re-read the original comments. But basically if you're judging all men on this sub as sexist because one guy/asshole/troll said some awful things, that's a sexist perspective to begin with. And if your perspective is driven by a hate for men as a result of rape, then I can sort of see where the comment about narcissistic rage comes from…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 04:06 AM
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The other guy did- wasn't me. However narcissistic rage is all over FDS. As a result of your trauma, do you hate men or hate yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 03:31 AM
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Narcissistic rage is a symptom of trauma. It's a reaction. It's not limited to NPD. If you follow the chain he linked it clearly states that. Rape trauma among women often results in intense narcissistic rage, Narcissistic rage reactions are not limited to personality disorders and may be also seen in catatonic, paranoid delusion and depressive episodes.[2] It has also been suggested that narcissists have two layers of rage. The first layer of rage can be thought of as a constant anger (towards …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 03:22 AM
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As far as I can tell it's a shot from the hip about a common symptom of trauma, not a diagnosis of any sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 03:09 AM
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The narcisstic rage. Are you pulling my leg?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 03:07 AM
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Wise words. Bit of a flaw revealed in edge cases but best to have the system overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 03:03 AM
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I would love to disagree but I can't. OP is on point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 03:02 AM
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Are you familiar with RPW? They teach actual self improvement for women in the lens of what men actually want, but with a different goal solely of LTR/Marriage. RPW still functions mostly on RP theory. It is a rare looking into women who take responsibility for themselves. FDS is just utter garbage from every angle and none of them are high value women, nor understand what it means to even be one. Being selfish, conceited trash trying to abuse and take advantage of blue pilled men is not sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:54 AM
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This wasn't my point to begin with but I'll try to help anyways. Narcissistic Personality Disorder NPD is something that people are born with. There's a list of criteria to meet for diagnosis, like 8-10 traits persisting throughout life. Narcissists are rarely diagnosed because their personality would never lead them to therapy in the first place. Anyways the comment was never that you're a narcissist. The comment is, a traumatic event could have caused a similar reaction in you that is present …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:45 AM
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But why? A lot of people suffer from emotions alone. A lot of suffering is invisible. That's the crux of all mental health. Thoughts, emotions, and behaviors are linked. There can be an issue at any point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:30 AM
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It's just a psychological term, which I'm actually not familiar with but he linked the wiki and it's worth reading. Couple points: The trauma: rape survivor "experiences not only overwhelming fear for her very existence, but an equally overwhelming sense of helplessness which few other events in one's life can parallel Narcissistic rage: two layers of rage. The first layer of rage can be thought of as a constant anger (towards someone else), with the second layer being a self-aimed wrath.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:18 AM
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Yeah because it's a honeypot. That was my point- trolls attract trolls. When you say "men tell me" you'd be better off saying "trolls tell me" because zero sensible men are on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:07 AM
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FDS doesn't teach anything about improving yourself to get good men. They are also so hilariously conceited and delusional in what constitutes a desirable woman in the eyes of a man. They haven't a single clue what men want. Their whole wiki is about what they want and nothing is about what they have to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:05 AM
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He said a narcissistic tendency as a symptom of trauma, not that you were born with a personality disorder. Things from trauma can be healed. A personality disorder can't ans he's not suggesting you have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 01:58 AM
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It's a troll subreddit. What kind of guy would spend any time there? A troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 01:55 AM
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I don't actually think reddit hates men as much as reddit just favors women. It's a case where women have more leniency.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 01:53 AM
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The word you're looking for is gold digger, lol. Whore was the girl who slept with the football team
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 01:48 AM
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They are nothing alike. TRP is about male self improvement based on the desires of the opposite sex and FDS is about creating your own dilusion thinking you're a queen deserving of all great things in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 01:44 AM
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Okay that's fair so my next question is: is this inherent to ADHD (chemical biology) or is this a learned self perception. I get that having a disorder is difficult- it can cause neurotic thoughts, but the neurotic thoughts themselves can be unlearned and trained by techniques I mentioned before. You can't change having ADHD- you can only accept it and love yourself. If it drives neurotocism you can alleviate much of the negative thoughts/emotions- certainly enough to put yourself closer to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 06:08 PM
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I'm not going to read pages and pages of ADHD from who knows what source when someone with the disorder can simply explain it. Because if I do look it up, having low attention or high energy isn't neurotic. As far as I can tell they are mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 05:47 PM
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What does ADHD have to do with neuroticism?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 05:38 PM
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I can't really comment on MRP, but honesty is the foundation of any LTR otherwise you don't have much of a relationship at all. Being honest means you'll earn deeper, more fulfilling relationships at the consequence of sacrifice dozens of more empty ones. Kindness is subjective/caring is subjective. Most people will have different definitions of what this entails. It's also a double edged sword for men because we have a lot of relationship risk and if you care too much you can get taken advantag…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 04:26 PM
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It depends on his goals. If his goals are short-term they are low priority. If his goals are longer-term those will rise much higher. It works both ways for men and women. If you treat someone as disposable, in turn you are treating yourself as disposable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 04:13 PM
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Okay and I wouldn't be judging a theory based on a minority of its fans, which may come with their own sets of bias/shortcomings/misunderstanding/misguidance. I would go straight to the source (theory) to criticize that. Back to your earliest comments, you make a lot of sweeping assumptions about TRP without a grasp of it. Therefore, you participate in the process of mischaracterizing it and teaching that to others here. I'm not sure what to think of this one- because a consequence of that is yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 04:00 PM
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And most people here are judging it on negative stereotypes too. You mentioned something about an echo chamber, if you want a terrible view of TRP ask PPD. TRP is a theory. Why are you judging TRP by some of its fans? Let's use Sheryl Sandberg as an example... if some of Sheryl's fans are toxic women, does that make Sheryl a toxic woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 03:42 PM
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The forums have diluted to 20-year-old wannabe fuckbois, mysognistic MGTOW, incels, and black pillers. Complete waste of time and I have ventured there for years. To garner a better understanding it's best to read The Rational Male. And if you think that redpill just means spinning plates, that's only 1 chapter. Again you're judging it all based on 3rd party stereotypes. I'll extend a branch: AWALT is bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 03:30 PM
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It's a compilation of results gathered over 20 years, combined with sexual study of generations before that. Though if this were a CMV post you're definitely not open to changing. I can tell you dont know what TRP is- again it would take dozens of hours to fully comprehend. Your understanding is likely a surface-level criticism of the actions of the worst of the bunch, rather than the foundation of theories. That would of course require you to read up on it, but it's far easier to dismiss it as …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 03:07 PM
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Modern women want traditional men but aren't traditional women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 02:54 PM
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That's the experience of being red pilled. It's an observation of how things are, in a way that most people dont actively think about, grounded in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 02:52 PM
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For a moment I thought this was a test based on red pill vs blue pill beliefs. It's not. It's just a standard political opinion test: liberal vs conservative. Moving along.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 02:23 PM
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Nearly all human traits can be arranged as a normal distribution. This would mean SMV follows a similar pattern. However, some preferences are binary so it may be slightly skewed at the aggregate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 02:13 PM
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Neuroticism is actually one of the ones you can have most growth. You're less likely to alter energy levels related to extroversion, maybe you can become a little more agreeable etc. However negative emotion can hugely improved with therapy, mindfulness, meditation, spirituality etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 02:08 PM
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If it's only a persona it's not a frame. That's a mask.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 02:06 PM
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Unfortunately any 1 woman doesn't have any better idea than 10s of thousands of men, across age groups, cultures etc. It's a lot more reliable than all these women arguing by exception and arguing for their personal preferences. TRP is about most, not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 01:55 PM
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It's a lot more complex than that with both physical and intangible traits. Its measured by an approximate number: SMV. Most people are about a 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 01:52 PM
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Value is not up to any 1 person: it's up to the collective of the gender you are trying to attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 01:49 PM
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There's no outlier. Everyone has subconscious preferences as well. You cannot control attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 01:48 PM
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Do you prefer to date someone who makes you laugh or someone who criticizes you? Do you think that nearly everyone feels the same way about the above comparison?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 01:45 PM
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It's not about your personal preferences and kinks. Maybe you like someone with really large feet- nobody else cares and that's not what makes a person high.. VALUE... not quality. The theories are based on a sexual market- which is made up of the preferences of everyone. Some traits are more preffered by more people. For example, do most women prefer a guy making 100k or a guy making 30k? Most prefer 100k: the hierachery is established and the 100k person has higher value in dating: larger pool…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 01:40 PM
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That would be what you two describe as redpill describing an alpha.... but it's not when TRP says. I mean its not even a description at all- it's a result; a byproduct. The ability to get plates is a byproduct of being alpha, it's not what makes an alpha. Considering you haven't read up on TRP, I'll give you a hint: women determine which men are alpha, not TRP itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 01:34 PM
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A HVM knows what she looks like in the morning. When you have an abundance of women you find the natural hot ones while avoiding the ones wearing masks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 02:18 AM
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NBD, your point is valid either way. Boy would America have a problem if 70% were obese. As if it isn't bad enough
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 07:54 PM
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if you read my other comments you would also know I don’t have a horse in this race and could give two fucks less about pleasing women. Because you're a gay man? i’m just sick of the false perception that women push that men are bad at sex when it’s women themselves who can literally fake orgasms! Women are the ones who lie about sexual experiences and satisfaction to their’s and men’s detriment. Both are true. it depends. it' s not black or white. What's really going on is, women fuck the top s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 07:25 PM
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For repeat customers it's both. Attraction is king for getting in the door. But you need skill to keep people around. If all you have is being hot theres another hot guy out there who is more skilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 06:43 PM
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Okay we get it; a couple needs to communicate to have great sex. You've commented that at least 5x in this thread and I said it myself awhile ago. lack of arousal Arousal is the responsibility of the man. The woman cannot control attraction. If the guy can't arouse women, take the red pill and seek help on that. Learn to read her body language. You cannot negotiate desire. Sex is a team activity, so you can either communicate with your partner Sex and arousal are very different. Communication me…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 06:29 PM
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Surely not what TRP describes as an alpha What does TRP describe as an alpha?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 05:19 PM
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Yeah, maybe. The point I'm getting at is asexual is basically hopeless—unless you're there only for emotional support & companionship— whereas low libido can find another match for their libido AND low libido can do things to spice it up or find a more sexually appealing partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 03:35 PM
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It's an extreme. It's hell for a hetereosexual and asexual to date because one is really into the other and has physical needs, whereas the other does not Asexual people might be able to enjoy sex, just as masturbation, but it's not the same. It's basically doing work for the other person's enjoyment. It simply doesn't work and if they try, it's to the heterosexual person's detriment. It's extremely rare, it's closer to "not at all". it's not "I have low libido" it's "I live a completely differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 03:04 PM
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Libido is relative. Common knowledge that women on average have lower libido than men. Low libido != asexual, dont conflate the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 02:04 PM
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I think that unattractive women have it harder in securing a high value partner. True but numbers paint the picture better. I will say men are 5x more likely to date way outside their league. But how?! It might look like: women's odds are 1 in 1000 and men's odds are 1 in 200. Your statement is an axiom, but in either case it's extremely rare/difficult and doesnt make a good argument. Breaking news: it's hard for an average person to secure a partner way out of their league who's at the top of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 01:48 PM
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Most bad sexual experiences are in casual dating. It takes some practice to get good at sex AND learn what your partner likes. In terms of women not putting effort: she could be bad because she never needed to be good, she could have performance anxiety, she could be super inexperienced/shy in the bedroom, and yes she may not be aroused. Arousal is physical and emotional, where women place a higher emphasis on emotional. She can be very physically aroused by Chad, but maybe moderately aroused by…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 01:38 PM
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Theres many ways to have sex and most women are very complex in sexual preferences, not that they are asexual. Most women find at least some men very physically attractive. If when you say, "'a lot more" or even 100% more, that could mean 0.2% of women as opposed to 0.1% of women. I wont argue against that but the number is tiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 01:16 PM
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68% of women, 72% of men (obesity). High 60s is overweight, including obese (BMI >25). Only obese is low to mid 30s (BMI >30)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 12:56 PM
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Gay men and lesbians don’t have these issues so clearly the problem isn’t the gender of the participants. Because it's a huge advantage to feel exactly what your partner feels. A heterosexual man needs to be coached through what feels good for a woman and the concept of edging. Women just know what edging feels like for them. Women just know the parts of receiving head they dont like and adjust for that. You're really missing the mark here because even if heterosexual couples communicate they ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 12:46 PM
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Most women cant orgasm from PIV or it's really difficult for them. Honestly depends on the girl. Some girls have never orgasmed from PIV whereas a minority regularly squirt from PIV. Clit stimulation when done right is actually very powerful and it works on all women whereas fingering might not. Honestly it's one of those things: every woman is like a toy Bop It. Bop it, pull it, twist it, flick it! Every woman has a different sequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 12:10 PM
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Ah I know that one. She has anxiety during sex to perform. Women sometimes actively think about sex during it, whereas men's primitive brain has taken over lol. Fingering usually works better anyways, but you gotta ease into that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 11:59 AM
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Men take the lead. Men care more about sex. If he wants seconds, he better prioritize her. Protip for men: go slower. She doesnt want a jackhammer. Foreplay. Tease her. Tease her until she cant take it anymore. Another protip: before PIV, finger her, eat her out, or give her a clit orgasm first.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 11:53 AM
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I agree with this but only once you given open communication a really good shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 11:47 AM
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This. Simple scenario: OP has been with 1 man and wants to find a HVM, man #2. Let's say she's also been with 100 women, do you think she'll feel the same about man #2 after being with 100 women as opposed to 0 women? Not a snowballs chance in hell. It affects you.
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/21 10:09 PM
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It's also not just the # itself but the attitude, behaviors, and psychological reasons for ending up there. A 30 count person is very different than a 3 count person
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/21 10:06 PM
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I wrote a post that explains the gist of it. There are a few more things not mentioned/detailed but those are the pillars. I also invite you to read the RPW wiki.
/r/RedPillWomen09/08/21 04:17 AM
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Woa, so that's a big difference there. The woman in the top 15% can still get with about 90-95% of the men. She is choosing to not get with that bottom 85%, it's not that they aren't options. She is choosing to not exercise those options. For men in the top 15% they will select a... Available options != personal choice. For example. Top female execs don’t marry copy room boys but top male execs will marry a bartender or secret and move her into an accounts payable role at his or a friends compan…
/r/RedPillWomen09/08/21 04:09 AM
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The woman is the selector. How is it the case that her pool decreases?
/r/RedPillWomen09/08/21 03:58 AM
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A woman in the top of the female dominance hierarchy. In either case, it's usually somewhere in the neighborhood of the top 15-20%
/r/RedPillWomen09/08/21 03:54 AM
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For sure there are HVM who exercise their options. I'm sure there are more HVM who exercise their options than HVW, but neither has to.
/r/RedPillWomen09/08/21 03:36 AM
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By offering it you cheapen yourself, By treating your sexual partner as disposable, in turn you are treating yourself as disposable.
/r/RedPillWomen09/08/21 02:15 AM
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Having a lot of options doesnt mean you have to act on them. Very low n-count by middle age is usually the consequence of being in relationships. If this is the case, I think these people can be of higher quality because they took the time to learn relationship skills, rather than riding or becoming a cog in the cock carousel. Also, whether a man or woman is high in SMV doesnt mean they'll act on racking up an n-count. You might be surprised, but being at the top of the dominance hierachiary als…
/r/RedPillWomen09/08/21 01:09 AM
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This thread is: two people make a baby 50/50. One person has 100% control of the pregnancy. Your point is? That you're only looking at the woman's side. If the father becomes the primary caretaker (which is a shit ton of work btw) then the absent mother If she doesn't want the kid she has the option to abort. The father does not. Further, if the father does want the kid and she doesn't, he has no say because she doesn't have to go through with a birth.
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 10:00 PM
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Usually by state/province yes. The laws aren't too far apart. Do you know of any states where the man is protected or the woman has a worse deal?
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 09:27 PM
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I choose to have unprotected sex and no ability to do whatever I want with the mothers body! Did you just completely disregard the fact that the woman is also choosing to have unprotected sex? As far as I know, it takes two people to make a baby.
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 09:20 PM
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Only because that's your choice at the moment. The risk has completely transferred to protect you and "your" kids.
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 09:14 PM
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Assume a man has a $1 million dollar house. There's a 1 in 3,000 chance (googled it) of his house burning down. This means there is a 0.03% chance of his house burning down and losing $1 million. For him, that chance is too high so he spends $30,000 on house insurance to protect himself. Now let's talk about divorce. Depending on his financial situation, RPW assumes a HVM, a divorce can easily cost him in the 7 figures. What are the chances of divorce? Somewhere between 1 in 3 to 1 in 2, or 33%-…
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 08:57 PM
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It's a hypothetical to prove a point. I know it wasn't 50/50. The point is 50/50 doesn't make sense. I'm going to an extreme to figure out where you can draw that line. MacKenzie Scott was awarded 4.2 Billion. Jeff Bezos current net worth is 193.3 Billion. That is just under 2.2% of his net worth. Surely NOT a 50/50 split. She actually took 25% stake worth about $60 billion today, but since gave away some to charity. Is 75/25 the magical fair number?
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 08:12 PM
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Has a history of divorce in his family. This is not a good reason, as you are his woman, not his mother or his sister in law. Does he not trust his own judgement in choosing you? Does he not trust that his judgment in choosing a wife is better than those before him? Or ... perhaps some other thing is bothering him which we/you/he does not know. I can only think he doesn't trust the system of marriage because you cannot foresee problems resulting in divorce in the future. In other words, nobody w…
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 07:59 PM
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From all your comments under this post you seem to be a bitter man. Can I ask why having important conversations means someone is a bitter man? These are the exact conversations that should happen on gendered subs. Men and women cannot fully understand one another's perspective because we live different experiences. It's crucial for men and women to come together, communicate and eventually reach a compromise. Are you saying that... I'm saying that there's an imbalance between the rights of men …
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 07:45 PM
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Men usually don't have a say on if a child is born or not with the possibility of women getting abortions or saying they will and then getting child support out of the man. In fact, the more I look it up the more I find out that women actually initiate divorce over 90%. Divorce benefits women. Alimony, child support, the house, etc. I can be "protected" In other ways besides being married. Holy shit, would not have expected this here. If I could give you 1,000 upvotes. If women want 100% control…
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 06:47 PM
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If that's true then there's less of a case for marriage.
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 06:40 PM
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Risk of having to deal with... I'm not understanding the difference between being married or not. In both cases you can create a life with someone and have children. In both cases you can break up with your partner and not feel good about them, while having to "deal with" mutual ties. This isn’t an unplanned pregnancy. This is going full steam ahead with creating a person. Maybe I can help. Is your argument that an unmarried LTR has a much higher probability of separating than a married couple? …
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 06:17 PM
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What I don’t understand is why anyone would intentionally put themselves at risk of having to deal with someone they’re not married to nor plan to be but share a human with. I'm curious as to what you mean by "risk of having to deal with"? And do the risks differ for men and women? He likes her enough to create a life and be linked forever, but not enough to risk his finances. At that moment, sure. But she can withdraw any benefits she's giving him at any time and completely fuck him over for 20…
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 05:51 PM
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My suggestion would be not to intentionally conceive children with someone whom you believe may one day hold them against you like pawns. I agree that vetting is super important to reduce risk as much as you can but no one is the same person in divorce. No one knows how they will behave in a divorce in 10 years from now.
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 05:32 PM
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Alimony exists because most men with housewives can go farther in their careers than men who do not and this was the cultural norm in the 19th century. The man would not have been able to make the money he did without the woman caring for the kids. She gave him a family, stability in the home, emotional support, she cooks, cleans, ect. That matters too. The woman deserves to have a safe future if her husband leaves her. She sacrificed her career for him. Although sahm is not a paid position, tha…
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 05:28 PM
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Actually I answered you directly. Try asking better questions. Why can't you someone have a loving, monogamous, committed relationship without the piece of paper? He should take that up with the court system; which he would be doing if he had been married or not. And if the courts are biased against men with no recourse?
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 05:20 PM
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If you're saying the protections exist no matter what... why does marriage matter? The protections for marriage and children differ. You can be not be married and have children: protections (risk) exist for children. You can be married and not have children: protections (risk) exist for marriage. You can be married and have children: protections (risk) exist for both marriage and children. If you're saying protections for children always exist then being married shouldn't matter. The comment was…
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 05:17 PM
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Because, I can have a relationship that is up to my standards with a partner who wants the same thing as I do. This dodged my question. And also, just because everything is fine today doesn’t mean it will be when that baby is 2, 4, 16. That is a much bigger commitment with a lot more risk than a piece of paper. What if the man wants the children? He is every a bit a parent as the mother.
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 05:08 PM
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without the legal protections of marriage for myself and my children. No groom, no womb! So a man needs to pay millions to have children... but ends up without the children? Raw deal. EDIT: I see this wasn't taken favourably but I will take downvotes on this comment any day of the week. Men are not ATMs and fathers are not second-class parents.
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 05:03 PM
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Why the commitment of a living breathing human but he can’t commit on a paper? Oh ok. Because the paper is just a legal document that opens the man up to significant risk. A lot of this risk can lead to grave consequences, is out of his control, and thinking everything is fine today doesn't mean everything will be fine in the future. I'll throw it back. Why can't you have a loving, monogamous, committed relationship without the piece of paper? Note: I understand that these issues are not black o…
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 04:59 PM
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I kinda wish I was a man.Yes, of course I know it isn’t peaches and flowers on the other side. But I can’t help it. I’ve always felt I’d be better off as a man. Better options in life and better biological advantages. Your perception is probably based primarily on stereotypes and a distorted 3rd-party view looking mainly at the pros while ignoring the cons of being a man (and ignoring the pros of being a woman). I wouldn’t have to fight 2x as hard in a man’s world. Depends where you live but in …
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 04:15 PM
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It's called duress. I wonder if there's ways to protect against that too. Video tape the signing in a law office? I think minimizing the risk goes a long way for both. It increases the probability that a HVM will pair up. Women still have a LOT to benefit from while dating a HVM. He'll put her up in a nice house, cover most expenses, giftst/dates etc. But if she can suck his blood dry if they breakup, why the hell is he signing up for that? She still benefits huge living a great life during the …
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 01:58 PM
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I think men are more likely to make sacrifices for children than a woman.
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 01:52 PM
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He struggles to find a quality woman after 50%-70% of his income is paid to his ex wife, while she finds another provider to put her up in his house and still cover many of her expenses. True story.
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 01:44 PM
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There's definitely a raw deal when the guy is basically a manchild. If he's not bringing in a much higher salary, if he doesnt clean up after himself, add on that masculinity is on the decline, that's another reason why traditional is on the way out. The other trend is women trying to compete and be like men. These two forces combined drive a massive divide.
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 01:38 PM
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Where I'm from they are basically the same thing. LTR is best only when you live together as a family. And that is considered common law marriage, which is nearly the same as actual marriage and nearly the same risks exist. LTR without living together provides full protection but is only possible without kids. Technically if you dont live together the moment kids occurs is where liability skyrockets because the family courts can destroy fathers for the benefit of the children.
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 01:30 PM
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The only thing that can encourage people is to demonstrate the benefits and prove it's a better path. I know you listed both, but the saying goes, "women want traditional men but arent traditional women." Theres definitely a lot more untraditional women than men. Most men are the traditional route.
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 03:41 AM
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I agree with marrying a woman who isn't an ass but you gotta take it a step further... making the best judgment to ensure she won't become an ass later.
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 03:38 AM
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Best chance is a vetting process. There are other ways to protect assets, but anything matrimonial up for grabs. Oh and children are always high risk. Just vet as best you can because marriage is still the best for the children.
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/21 03:37 AM
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Guy lied about her being a lesbian, cheated on you, then gave you an STI?
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/21 07:37 PM
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Jesus, it's worse than I thought
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/21 07:33 PM
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Do you have any advice for me on how to become more social? Step outside your comfort zone. Put the time into practicing. Find local meetups, activities, or hobbies you can join. Become the person who invites people instead of waiting to be invited. To develop the skills: The shortcut in life is learning from your good friend who is adept in this area. Be transparent with her, say you want to learn and ask for help Charisma on Command is the best YT channel that teaches social skills A book call…
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/21 01:46 PM
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Yep, some inspiration there. KS knows both HVM and HVW very well and has a large network of both.
/r/RedPillWomen06/08/21 02:57 PM
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I’m a 5’9 woman I mean that's actually not that tall. You mentioned being taller than half the male population, but it's not like all men shorter than you won't date you. A significant portion will because it's primarily about attractiveness than height. It's true that height affects attractiveness, but everyone has different preferences. Yes some women are not attracted to men because they're too short and yes some men are not attracted to women because they're tall, but it's not everyone. In h…
/r/RedPillWomen06/08/21 12:38 PM
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Ha, this is a classic. Her personality is repulsive (7:41). She doesn't have the slightest clue about what intelligence is. She quotes "EQ" which is not a real thing and then lists a bunch of behaviors that have nothing to do with IQ. IQ is a term in psychology with a specific definition. Intelligence is not based on someone's POV or anyone's personal concept of intelligence. (10:55) when her arrogance gets checked, hahaha. (11:43) when your ego is bruised and you double down. The comment sectio…
/r/RedPillWomen05/08/21 01:01 PM
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Then the day she left me she told me I was selfish. I suspect she thought I’d chase after her and change my mind. Either way, they 100% do get offended. She wasn't looking for a life partner. She was looking for a man that's "ambitious". Dodged a bullet. Whatever good things you saw about her will not be present in divorce court.
/r/RedPillWomen05/08/21 03:32 AM
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I also believe in prenups for women if they have assets/high income. It makes legal sense.
/r/RedPillWomen05/08/21 02:16 AM
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They are thrown out if a judge finds them "too unfair". Or find a loophole to invalidate it, like she was under duress. Additionally, a lot of women in the US get offended when a prenup is brought up. It`s a useful signal to dodge a bullet. You`re her meal ticket.
/r/RedPillWomen04/08/21 10:14 PM
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Few points I can break down: 1) Intelligence in dating 2) PhD value 3) Conditions HVMs who are academics themselves That's a big condition right there. Academics != success, nor HVM. A significant proportion of HVM are business owners, many of which pursued a life of creating value in their industry vs rising up the academic ranks. A subset of HVM might care... it`s a bit high-level to say they care about a PhD; rather it`s what`s behind it want a very smart woman and usually a PhD is a very hig…
/r/RedPillWomen04/08/21 06:14 PM
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You don't need high professional qualifications to attract a HVM. A major component of the HVM is that he's got the finances taken care of. Take a guy making $250k, he can buy anything he desires. If he's looking for a companion in life he wants a woman to complement his life in ways that money cannot buy. This comes down to 1) Physical Attractiveness and 2) Personality, which I'll break down further. For an STR, 80% of the equation is how attractive she is, 20% is the personality. For a LTR, at…
/r/RedPillWomen04/08/21 03:46 PM
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Great post. Something's missing from the women's side. Women highly value a funny guy!
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/21 02:35 AM
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Men and women have different scales. You're probably higher value than you realize because how you're judging yourself sounds like it might be lower than what men are valuing you as. You don't need a high income to be a HVW. The financial situation of a woman presents downside but not really upside. In other words, a woman with a ton of debt and bad with money is a red flag. But a woman who makes $100k and is a 6 looks wise is not as highly valued as a woman who makes $50k and is an 8 looks wise…
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/21 12:26 AM
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In over 95% of cases men and women cannot be friends. TRP says 100% of cases, but it's possible as long as 1) neither of you are attracted to another 2) you've known each other for a very long time like 10 years 3) you see each other almost as brother and sister. If one of you want sex with the other, that's not a friendship. This also includes guys that hang around 5 years but given a moments notice and they will bang. Those are orbiters. The same for you, if after 2 years you developed a crush…
/r/RedPillWomen02/08/21 08:31 PM
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Maybe it depends on where you live, but my Mom worked outside the home in the 1980s and she was the anomaly in my neighborhood. I'm Canadian, which is far more left-leaning and egalitarian than the US (we don't have anything that resembles Republican or the south). The generation where nearly all women were SAHM was the silent gen. Boomers is where women started entering the workforce in large numbers in the 70s (you can plot this on a chart: women entering the workforce in the last 50 years is …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:40 AM
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For some people principles drive their surroundings. For others, surroundings drive their principles.
/r/RedPillWomen31/07/21 08:12 PM
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people think women working outside of the home Women have been entering the work force in strong numbers since the early 70s, it's not a new phenomenon to be working full-time. It's new in the last 15-20 years for women to be making their careers the focus of their life, writing off marriage, and choosing to be childless. It's these three points. The only people I know with traditional marriages, for example a SAHM, are Boomers. All of my friends, all of my extended family members, and anyone I …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 05:52 PM
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Would you say a woman who is a partner at a law firm that makes mid six figures and is licensed to practice law in three states would be defined as a career woman? If so hello nice to meet you. It's not about the job or the role; it's about the mentality and priorities. Why would I be any more devoted to my career than my male colleagues that are married? Or are you saying that it’s okay for my male colleagues to be dedicated to their careers and I should be dedicated to my husband? Please clari…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 04:15 AM
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Why would you say that a man that married a woman that had a career would be a fool? Would you say that a woman who married a career man was a fool? Doesn't sound like you know what a career woman is. A career woman is married to her job. That is her sole motivation in life. She doesn't care much about men, she doesn't care much for a family. Her career is where all of her devotion goes and marrying her is a huge mistake. These women have unbelievably high expectations and are always trying to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 09:13 PM
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There are some people that are just happier single. It has always been that way, it’s just that it has become possible financially and more acceptable from a societal standpoint for women to do it in the last 25 years. I think generally most people are happier with a life partner if that relationship is happy and healthy. A number of themes have occurred simultaneously. People aren't getting along well. Society is more devisive and social media is breaking people. Not only does social media caus…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 06:37 PM
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It's just society reminiscing about traditional roles. Men are viewed as ATMs
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 06:24 PM
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She can buy sperm
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 06:21 PM
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Weight Loss / Nutrition: What's more important than rapid changes are sustainable habits. I recommend a lazy keto. I used to consume 150g+ of sugar per day, but I reduced that to <50 now ; this also improved brain functioning I significantly reduced carbs in favor of protein rich meat and fish. In Keto, grains are about 5%-10% of a diet, but for me I have 20%-25% and I find that sustainable. ; this also increased my energy Don't drink empty calories. No soda; no fruit juices, cut back alcohol as…
/r/RedPillWomen30/07/21 01:56 PM
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It's basically 90% appearance and 10% personality. For short-term, yes. For long-term, it's more like 50/50 or 60/40.
/r/RedPillWomen30/07/21 01:38 PM
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That's crap. She's coming here asking for help and you're effectively telling her, "honey, you're fine just the way you are and men should love you for who are you!" People value genuine feedback. They do not value fluffy compliments and white lies. Please please please do not let yourself think you're fat lmao It's actually not up to you. It's not up to her either. It's up to the men she wants to date. Welcome to Redpill.
/r/RedPillWomen30/07/21 01:35 PM
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Colour me surprised. You are cute and have the potential to be well above average. You have the genetic makeup for what is considered attractive by many people. The only thing holding you back is your weight and fortunately that's something you can change. You have the opportunity to completely transform your life by establishing nutrition & exercise part of new lifestyle and you will go from attracting 30% of men to 80% of men.
/r/RedPillWomen30/07/21 01:31 PM
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A few days ago I made a comment about this. I dont ask for anything I dont offer in return. I can see why men get annoyed by the obese obnoxious woman who only wants a chad but it is not my case, I have no need to settle for someone I dont like that much just for being afraid of being alone. I support this. im not closed to a relationship but I am happy being single. I have no need to settle for someone I dont like that much just for being afraid of being alone That these two things are said by …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 12:02 PM
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Im not a wgmow, im currently seeing someone that I like a lot and so far has everything im looking for in a partner. Earlier you said you're single according to the scales shared on here he would be a 4-5) In appearance? Like below average? or he's losing a few points for his height? Smart and highly educated (current guy is a lawyer and smart as fuck) similar income to mine (middle class for mexican standards) As I said, these are the two where most women select themselves out of the dating poo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 03:54 AM
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Millennial women are far too gone. Your best bet is a Gen X or Boomer woman becoming a leader in the women`s sphere who advocates for family. The manosphere has Jordan Peterson advocating for marriage and family, however 80% of his audience is men. Target the 15-30 crowd. I want to be optimistic. But you know what's winning over that young demographic? Anti-male, zero accountability nonsense spreading across TikTok.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 11:16 PM
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This is what women with zero accountability say.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 11:00 PM
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Relax man. Yes there's a huge spike in selfish millennial women. What do they want? Masters or PhD, high salaries, drinking wine every week, girls nights out, hot girl summer, vacations, clothes & cars, dining on patios etc. I know too many. Thing is, nothing you can do about it. It is what it is. There's also men that don't contribute in the way you're asking like MGTOW. All you can do is accept that people do what they'll do. It is true that as this trend grows it will create serious long-term…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 10:40 PM
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So you've lost faith in all men and you're basically WGTOW. Your case is a carbon copy of what's on Kevin Samuels' show every week. There's more to your situation that isn't being revealed. There are a lot of "adult" men; men who are not manchildren. But as if that's all you're looking for. Where's your list of demands? What do you think about a man's Salary Height Fitness Career Intelligence Masculinity If you do have a PhD, on KS's show that always means 1 of 2 self-limitng factors: you're loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 10:32 PM
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You chose the man If you want a better man I hope your value is high enough, based on men's standards not self-perception. Your situation is a perfect setup for being perpetually single. Your choice. Life does get lonely the older you get though. But I get the gist of your post is you're coming to terms with this. What does your next 40 years look like to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 08:26 PM
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Lol'd. Literally the prime example right here. I appreciate the honest, "I want a relationship" even though it's probably not happening
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 08:22 PM
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That applies to both men and women but they have different currency.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 08:11 PM
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The analogy was awful because it missed the part where the girl is a 60lbs overweight part-time employee at Burger King trying to date a professional athlete at the 5-star restaurant. Check out Kevin Samuel's show.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 07:57 PM
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Her name must be Janice
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 07:52 PM
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Regarding women's standards, they're allowed to be high, that's not the problem. The problem is the attitude of, "I want, I need, I deserve" while completely ignoring what they have to offer. If your standards are high then you need to meet high standards too. But dont forget, those standards arent set by you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 07:44 PM
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OP is a bot. Don't bother replying. Post history is thousands of posts spread across thousands of random subreddits. All text is copied from other posts. Most posts are 0 Karma. There are no coherent follow-ups to any posts because this is not a real person. Mods on other subs have identified this and banned this bot.
/r/RedPillWomen28/07/21 05:55 PM
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He has past insecurities and he doesn’t trust people easily He shouldn't be bringing in emotional baggage from his past relationship into yours. Couples counselling could help with that, but idk you'd have to figure out if that's worth it for you. me not disclosing all my past in the beginning of the relationship made it worse. But now he knows everything, there is nothing else to find out. There's a difference between 1) being honest and transparent up front when he asks 2) Carefully dodging qu…
/r/RedPillWomen28/07/21 05:19 PM
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I guess what I'm trying to figure out here is.... there's clearly mistrust and where's it coming from. Is this guy deeply insecure and infringing on your privacy (without talking to you) or did you lie about your past and he's uncovering that?
/r/RedPillWomen28/07/21 05:08 PM
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Did he ask about your past or dove right into monitoring you?
/r/RedPillWomen28/07/21 04:57 PM
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I try to be optimistic but I'm afraid to say, this sounds like your relationship is already over and you are starting to come to terms with this. There's so many red flags & issues here with a long history. There's major problems and barriers. Sometimes it's worth fighting these major barriers but the two of you are not married or have children. This is a relationship where the two of you have a lot you can learn from. It's a stepping stone to finding a new relationship that starts with a founda…
/r/RedPillWomen28/07/21 04:52 PM
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Big difference there is your partner is committed to having a relationship and made the effort. (Understanding, compassion, compromise) Compared to this guy who clearly doesnt want a relationship or has zero clue what relationships are about. His reaction is emotionally immature and further proof he doesnt give a shit about OP.
/r/RedPillWomen28/07/21 04:22 PM
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Hahaha, that makes sense. And I'm a young conservative woman Thank you for your service, the world need more of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 12:34 PM
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A lot of people throw around the terms who shouldn't... not even knowing the basic criteria for diagnosis. So forgive Red Pill if we associate Batshit Crazy with BPD BPD may equal crazy but crazy doesn't mean BPD and that's the problem with the manospehre. If crazy = BPD then the proportion of women with BPD would be well into the double digits. Such isn't the case. A major difference is there's little hope for the ones with BPD- it's a life sentence of volatility where some can actively manage …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:26 AM
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A professor who teaches this: Big 5 traits study showed that there are some differences between men and women, but overall there are more variety in a group of one gender than between two genders. Was just curious but guess not!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:45 AM
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JBP?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:40 AM
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So the most acceptable response is, "studies indicate that most/more _____" It doesn't mean that all women are meek or that all men are aggressive though. Yes. Not a single behavior or personality trait is true for all women or all men. Yet whenever an assertion is brought up, for some reason people take it to mean "all". There are obviously differences between men and women but I'm beginning to doubt that a civil discussion can occur for the reason that statements are assumed to mean "all" and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:29 AM
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Sounds like you closed off. I’m sorry you’re tired of the correct answer. There isn't a shred of evidence. Just because your gender studies professor told you something doesn't make it true. And just because one radical feminist professor peer-reviewed their radical feminist colleague's paper doesn't make their hypothesis valid. If only they taught you how to think in university, but instead they've indoctrinated you. I'm sorry for your loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:08 AM
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That’s what I mean is part of a patriarchal culture. It’s not just women’s acceptance or rejection. It’s men and women. It's really empty when the same old tired response is to blame everything on patriarchy. What do women's choices have to do with patriarchy? Did you move the goalposts from, "the patriarchy" to "patriarchal culture established by women, therefore the patriarchy?" And yes, when I was 17 I liked the strong, confident, masculine guy. But we all grow up, and while those are still a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:45 AM
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The patriarchy hurts men because there’s a cultural tendency to shame men for seeking help or showing emotion or having any sort of mental struggle. A large part of this is women's acceptance/rejection of men, not men themselves. Look at it this way: If crying and talking about my emotions meant I got laid 3x per week I'd be crying a fucking river. But no, that's viewed as weak by women. They are attracted to strength. They expect men to be their rock. Therefore, men choose to be the rock. So un…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:24 AM
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So far nothing here indicates that he wants a relationship. When was his last long-term relationship? (how long was it; did he tell you why it didn't work out?) Where does he see himself in a few years? Financially speaking, would you say he could support a family? It could be the case that he wants a relationship but at some point moved you from the long-term bucket to short-term bucket and is riding out the benefits while he can. In terms of your approach, men aren't vending machines (put sex …
/r/RedPillWomen28/07/21 02:10 AM
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I have a better-than-average understanding of mental illness- I'm not an expert, nor work in the space- and I can tell you that mental illness claims are brought up often all over the manosphere but these guys have no fucking clue what they're talking about. Woman showing bad behavior? Obviously BPD. All of these illnesses are medical diagnoses (DSM-5) but these terms are casually thrown around. I recall there's one asshole guru that thinks depression just means your life sucks and it's your fau…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 10:59 PM
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You are now a moderator of r/Incel
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 10:50 PM
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Because those men need the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 10:47 PM
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Something like 1% of men are rapists. You'd have to be a complete moron to think that a majority of men are rapists or any number substantial enough to validate some generalized comment like that. So no, I don't think they are stupid; they know exactly what they are doing. I'm actually fine with a generalized statement if it's mostly true. But in this case, it's just another misandrist trying to negatively portray men. It's a mentality from bitter women that men are violent and evil but the mome…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 10:17 PM
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I support feminism and egalitarianism and I try to avoid generalizations like "all men suck" or "kill all men". They aren't helpful, they make it harder for people to take you seriously and they lead to radicalization of certain groups. That's a good start. When you hear someone make comments like, "Men are aggressive" or "Women are not as assertive as men" or "Women engage in gossip" or "Men are rapists and murders" or "Women are nurturing"? How do you perceive these comments? Does it mean some…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 10:03 PM
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So your argument is that politics are completely irrelevant? I can reason with that. Politics are definitely much less important than masculinity/femininity, working in either political direction. It's still a long stretch to say that your personal experience means that there's a central theme of conservative women fucking woke men (this is millions of people). And being left-leaning isn't the same as woke. This depends on the definition of woke / feminist in this case. Woke is on the extreme le…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:53 PM
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Well that leaves the other option, that the point is all men are rapists and murders. Either way, it's completely wrong and the poster of that comment doesn't think their father is a rapist/murder. They're just a misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:48 PM
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You picked an extremely complex exception; a country with a nasty, complex history. Is that the hill you're going to die on? Exceptions don't invalidate the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:25 PM
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Nearly every country in Asia; Japan, Thailand, Indonesia, Myanmar, Nepal, Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia etc.. Maybe a white person might have some privilege in.... South Korea? It's hard to say; I'm not Korean. But I wouldn't bet that a white woman has more privilege than a Korean woman in Korea; rather I would say a white woman might experience less discrimination in Korea over other Asian countries but not privilege over the majority. It's a safe bet anywhere in the world that the majority has some …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:20 PM
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1st hand experience trumps hearsay but personal experience is also subject to the anecdote fallacy. Essentially your argument is, "I am an exception, therefore the rule does not exist."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:15 PM
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White women have majority privilege in predominantly white countries. She does not have majority privilege in the middle east. So is it race or is it majority? A chinese woman in China has more privilege than a foreigner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:12 PM
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Or are you interpreting the negative reaction to the actual things that men do (like rapey murder) You could also say, "actual things that women do, like rape & murder". Therefore women suck. Na, I still dont see any logical point there
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 08:47 PM
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Both of those things are very stereotypical and old-fashioned. I'm sure some of it persists but to a small degree. I've never been in either situation. I assume you're talking about those clubs with $50k membership fees? So the sexism you're talking to is at high levels of corporations? Execs golfing might be an example though I wouldn't know if women are purposefully excluded. Anyways, discriminating against millennial and zoomer women seems to be uncommon, yet discriminating against millennial…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 07:26 PM
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Don't know if that's really the case. I know one thing that's a fact: some people assume this to be the case but don't actually know. When enough people assume this to be the case but don't actually know you get blatantly discriminatory policies for women-only mentor ships, women-only internships, women-only networking events, promoting younger women (for being women) attempting to balance out the top, pulling more female resumes to interview, giving soft-balls in women's interviews while grilli…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 06:18 PM
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promoting people you get along well with and produce good results. ...which is not sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 06:11 PM
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I think that men and women both have different privileges and pushing the narrative that only men have privileges makes someone a fool.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 05:54 PM
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In casual hookups, 20% of the men are having over 80% of the sex. There's a wide disparity in male N-counts and on average it's lower then women's because so many men have an N count in the low single digits... like 0-2. There's a 2 point gap in N count... I think men are 7 and women are 9. Ofc the reason why the aggregate values are not further apart is because most people are in relationships, but there's a wide 80/20 disparity in the casual SMP creating the difference at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 05:41 PM
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Why are you assuming that the only reason a workplace might have all men is because of sexism?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 05:33 PM
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The other links are good and they are also unrelated, so I don't understand your point here. Don't take it personally. I like your last source there about self-esteem, but I disagree with the assertion that you made about it. Self esteem and being entitled are not the same thing. I know plenty of girls who have a ton of insecurities yet still expect the world. I know women who have low self esteem and are also very selfish. These traits are mutually exclusive. The rest of your post, it's a bit h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 04:37 PM
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Most women in their 20s have less 5 sexual partners. The data you posted is prior to hookup apps and modern social media. The social media back then was mostly centered around friendships/communication in local circles... it was not the modern day social media using insta/tiktok to DM for hookups. In other words, there was no live feed to fuck hundreds of people at any given time. The 19-year-old woman today is completely different than the 19-year-old woman from 2006 (this true for all women, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 03:14 PM
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Women are the sexually sectors,so women are supposed to be picky. Women are picky about who to have sex with but men are the gatekeepers of relationships, so when a man has options he gets to be picky about a woman for a relationship. Women who don't chose correctly and carefully; end up suffering and so does her children. Same for men. The moment two people want to enter into a long-term relationship it's about both people, not one. The moment people want to have family it's not about them, it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 03:01 PM
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Controlling your partner’s time, space, money, thoughts, or choices such as what they wear Men in marriages and LTRs are typically the providers. This turns Mr. DoubleShiftWorker into an abuser just by asking "babe, can we save $200 a month by cutting girls' night out to only once a month?". Or Mr. GodIsMySheppard is now an abusive monster if he politely asks his wife to "please dress modestly, my mother is coming for dinner tomorrow night". All of this is centered around control. Abuse is in th…
/r/TheRedPill25/06/21 06:12 PM
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I'm pointing out that though some of the items on your list are reasonable, the source should be considered questionable. Why don`t you read each point for what they are and critique them, instead of trying to introduce preconceived notions, "these words are wrong because feminism." I clearly didn't say that abuse is only men-on-women, so why are you digging to twist that around? Every form of abuse in their video is gendered to make men appear as the sole victimizers. I don't care about their v…
/r/TheRedPill25/06/21 05:03 PM
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Forums are to be replaced by....?
/r/TheRedPill25/06/21 12:09 AM
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for example how do u express to ur partner that you have problems with their behavior or the relationship without it being construed as "abuse"? how do you work through problems in a relationship if expressing yourself will later be described as "abuse?" i get your point but imo it's still not as simple as you've presented it. I didn't really present anything as for what to do, lol. When you read the above examples consider the more extreme situations of when that happens. A lot of it is about c…
/r/TheRedPill24/06/21 08:19 PM
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Specific examples are important. None of the examples are gendered (read: partner). Can you not read neutral examples without making everything "you vs. me" "men vs women" etc. You're just as bad as the groups you're criticizing. Maybe I shouldn't post the source if you're going insert bias into everything you read on the internet?
/r/TheRedPill24/06/21 08:12 PM
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While I agree with you that "abuse" is exaggerated these days, it's important to note that there are different forms of abuse and is not limited to physical abuse. Emotional abuse is a real thing. It's true that the term "abusive" is exaggerated today to mean that someone is rude or uncaring or angry. But there's still non-physical abuse, where several tactics becomes problematic. Looking at the OP, it's likely the girl was engaging in emotional abuse and in turn, instigating physical abuse from…
/r/TheRedPill24/06/21 06:51 PM
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What you're saying is still in line with what I said. Sorry but the 38 Chad is going to outcompete the 58 chad for the twenties women. You're still speaking to the exception. It's like the guy who talks about wins but not losses. You'll have more rejections than the 38yo. I'm not sure how you're meeting women but during the pandemic it's probably from an app. In that case you won't even see most twenties women as options because you're out of their age range filter. You're getting the sluts/suga…
/r/TheRedPill18/05/21 05:01 PM
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Are those 40-50 guys jacked, healthy & good at game? It doesn't matter because there's an equivalent jacked, healthy and smooth HVM who is 15 years younger that has a better shot at the younger girls. The biggest difference is going to be wealth, but again what RP misses on is not every woman is going for some multi-millionaire guy (gold diggers). They still recognize the Henry's of the world, (basically HVM in training) who are very ambitious and have the recipe for success anyways in addition …
/r/TheRedPill17/05/21 03:29 PM
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This is a great example. TRP loves to talk about men's age not mattering and 40+ or 50+ HVM able to get with a 18-20 year old women. This is mostly a fallacy. I've known a lot of women in the 18-23 range and the overwhelming majority of them would be disgusted at the idea of dating a 40+ guy. Can a 30s guy pull a 20-year-old? Absolutely and here's the example. But it's argument by exception. You will always find that young slut or gold digger. She is not representative of most women and she cert…
/r/TheRedPill16/05/21 05:00 AM
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I am not entirely sure what your are asking, but you can be physically attracted to someone without love, Okay great, so you can be attracted to someone without love. My point was that men and women are attracted to different things and for things that are shared attraction they often still prioritize them differently. There's a laundry list of things that are attractive in a partner such as: income/ambition, height, looks, personality, attitude, humor, maturity, humility, vulnerability, communi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 03:34 AM
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There isn't a female and a male love. Love is love. Men just can't differentiate between love and lust, or it's the same thing to them. I said attraction. If you can't separate attraction from love, can you separate physical attraction from love? They are separate, but you need both in a relationship. You need the physical component to build a bond in the bedroom. No bond = weak relationship. No bond = man's emotional & physical needs not met = man leaves. I also don't believe physical attractio…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 02:30 AM
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Men and women prioritize different things in attraction and relationships. You don't get a pass to become the size of a house. I'm not signing up for that and I'm expected to hold up my end of the bargain too, for example sustaining gainful employment or if looks is important to her then that too. Doesn't change the fact that your love for her was still conditioned on her looks Love and physical attraction are different things. I can still love her but choose to leave her. It's also no surprise …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 01:54 AM
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You missed the part where i give plenty of leeway for weight. I dont expect anyone to be close to perfect. When someone's weight gets way out of control that becomes a serious problem. You also missed the part where the condition is the person gives up not only on themselves but the relationship. I dont dump someone without having a deep conversation. Health and fit lifestyle are important to me and completely letting yourself go is non-negotiable and she knows that. In your earlier post, you tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 12:20 AM
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I didn't leave her nor did I have one foot out the door. It didn't get to a point where I'd have to leave. I named the conditions for that above.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 11:56 PM
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I'd address your points but you have no idea what love is. I hope you find it one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 11:50 PM
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Hmm, maybe. If that's the case it's not good for them. These standards are decently high and if a guy is a 5 he's not going to get a 7-9. They'll have to raise SMV or lower their standards. The math doesnt allow for every guy to get a top shelf woman, lol. Also as an above average guy, the type of girls your most into are probably actually attainable to you as well, which definitely changes the picture. Oh that`s good insight. Perhaps it drops my available pool to 4%.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 04:57 PM
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I'm glad that you're not claiming to be attracted to 80-90% of young adult women like many of the guys on here at least lol. While I'd probably fuck 20%-30% of women, I'm probably only attracted to about 15%-20% of women for an LTR. This sounds low, but it's still millions of people. Once you factor in that a huge proportion will be in relationships, perhaps I'm left with dating 5% of women as viable options. If you seek monogamous relationships, you really only need one person so 5% is still pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 04:37 PM
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I used it because I trusted him to love me and care for me. Someone can love and care for you without being very attracted to you. This happens all the time in long-term relationships. Relationships that last. To some degree, it's inevitable that attraction will drop in most relationships. I trusted him to tell me the truth when I asked him months and months before we broke up why we weren't having sex But he did tell you the truth. It just took some time and for good reason. I'm a man and I've …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 03:47 PM
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But we can always comprimise so that the man does not put himself in a dissadvantageous position. I think that really depends on the laws of where someone lives. There's protections, or at least ways, to reduce alimony but there is generally nothing you can do when it comes to child support. The family courts reign all-powerful and try, in their best effort, to do whats best for the children.... and usually offer a huge bias towards the mother. Most places also have common-law, which means if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 03:17 PM
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I mean, it is basically 20, we have good stats on this It will probably always be 20. so please tell me where the Universal definition of "The Wall" is? You're the one trying to create your own definition of the wall. It's a specific term coined by Rollo Tomassi. Here's how many times in my own life I've given a single fuck if a woman is fertile: zero. IS it Red Pill? Is it urban dictionary? FDS? You? Which of these ultimate, 100% trustworthy and definitely not retarded sources should I listen t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:31 PM
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It's not my definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 01:33 PM
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I think you're in the wrong sub if you're unfamiliar with basic theory. Who said you can't get laid or married after 35? Perhaps you should head on over to r/datingoverthirty
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 01:29 PM
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You keep exaggerating things and taking them to the extreme with black or white thinking. Nearly everyone has some options but their SMV determines how many options. No matter how much a woman works on herself and her personality and skills Men don`t fuck personality and skills. Who the hell is entering a relationship with someone they aren`t attracted to? she's plain or average, she's doomed. She can date average.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 01:21 PM
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They don't count as viable options for dating. A woman is not a viable option if you're not attracted to her. Your initial post was a counter-argument to OP that good women exist (opposite of OP) and I agree with you. But I'm saying that a woman can have none of the problems OP described, but still be unattractive, so she "doesn't count" as a viable option in dating. As I said before, if the pool of these good women is only 30%—good based on non-physical factors—then once you consider the women …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 08:50 AM
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The F&F team doesn't vet women; they find the thottiest thots to make dramatic content. They are also in Miami, locale of trashy women. Their experience is not representative of the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 08:38 AM
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Marriage benefits women and children. If a man wants children it's the best option for the children.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 08:36 AM
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The wall is not a single number representing attractiveness. It includes fertility as a factor. Plenty of 25+ women get tons of attention. The peak is 25; the alarm is 30; the wall is 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 08:32 AM
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You may have a woman like the one described in OP without any problem. What? I'm not dating a LVM like OP describes. I understand where OP is coming from, that HVW are scarce, but I'm not acting like they aren't out there. There is a reasonable chance in finding and dating a HVW if you put in the effort. The fact that you deep down only care how attractive she is- that's the issue I have. I never said that; don't know where that's coming from. For a man, physical attractiveness is about 50% of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 08:22 AM
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That's quite an assumption and reflection of your poor opinion of women. Why do attractive women have to be "IG thots"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 07:56 AM
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Look it up. In a debate you can't tell others to prove your own point. Do your own homework.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 06:09 AM
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The peak is 25; the alarm is 30; the wall is 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 06:06 AM
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Have all had at least a healthy 2-year relationship in their twenties? Depending on your sample size it's anecdotal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 06:04 AM
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Another clichee of the sub, the wall. Have you ever considered how staying fit, not getting overweight, no smoking+drugs, avoiding excesses of alcohol etc lets us age very well? The older we get, the better we know ourselves and the more our personality can grow and flower. Today I'm confortable in my body and with my desires, as a teenager I was an insecure mess. The wall includes fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 06:02 AM
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There are women like that but it's rather uncommon these days. Might represent at most 30% of women. The other problem with the equation are the minority of women that are too low SVM. There are women who have low n-counts or no relationships because they are generally unattracted. This squeezes that available pool a bit. Then out of the 30% most are going to be in relationships or married already. The good ones are taken off the market pretty quickly. There's definitely slim pickings the older …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 05:59 AM
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And for good reason because it will inevitability create more problems down the line. That, or you are missing out on something so much deeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 05:51 AM
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How women rate men: 10 9 8 Invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 05:49 AM
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It's mainly genetic so your odds are good if you also work to preserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 05:44 AM
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He ended up blurting out that he doesn't feel the need to initiate because he isn't "fully attracted to my body". I was so taken aback by this comment from someone I trusted so much. What does this have to do with trust? Truth hurts but you just learned a valuable lesson that men and women see attraction as different things. Both people need to be attracted to one another; that might mean a man is physically attracted to you and you are attracted to his personality. If there's no attraction, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 05:41 AM
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Some of the "not like other girls" are basically the female counterparts of "nice guys" Only difference is they usually aren't quite THAT vitriolic, and instead of directing what vitriol there is at the guys who's attention they aren't getting (the way "nice guys" do for girls who ignore them), it is directed at the girls who get more attention thanks to culturally The asymmetry here exists as a symptom or manifestation of differences between men and women. I can speak to the men's side. The low…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 04:11 PM
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most women/girls are more likely to say something disparaging about her looks if they see the girl as “competition”. Nailed it. This is the hallmark of female aggression as women jostle for a position in the female dominance hierarchy. They aren't going to punch your face in but they will absolutely talk shit about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 12:59 PM
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Step 1: don't get married Step 2: if you insist on getting married find a unicorn that won't fuck u over Step 3: hire the best lawyer you can to protect what you can
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 02:34 AM
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Not discussing beliefs doesn't mean we can't see them in operation. If you're talking about being emotionally unavailable and spinning plates, sure that's obvious. Not all RPM practice that and it's a small portion of TRP theory. Many RPM aren't publicly known to be RP.... most of these principles have existed and have been practiced by men throughout history, so there isn't some RP beacon broadcasting from them. The behaviors were always there; the principles were only put on paper recently. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 02:45 PM
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RP doesnt operate on the minority. If a minority of women want men who talk about their emotions then that's a crowded space with abundance of weak men. Most women want strong men. Strong men will attract most women. It's like the 80/20 rule and speaking to the 20% doesn't disprove the 80%. And rule #1 you dont discuss beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 07:47 PM
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Complaining about your options as a woman while not being accountable is still your problem. Women have options of the men pursuing them AND the alternative of being the pursuers, just as the men are. But being the pursuer is a long hard road of rejection (as men experience) so they dont take that road The woman is complaining about options. A significant portion of men have virtually no options- a few scraps and near total loneliness. Her standards are really high if she's complaining that hund…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:48 PM
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And FDS also has parts of self improvement. FDS self "improvement" further reinforces the woman being the center of her own universe. It has nothing to do with what men desire. Euhm...no? That guy has all his good parts removed and Will from now on only attract problem girls. Which, if that is his type: go ahead, but don't pretend all women like that toxic male bullshit. This is likely because you have a very elementary understanding of RP. If you knew the first two things about it, it describes…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 01:25 PM
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The CDCs rape numbers are misleading
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 05:37 AM
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Good to hear. Hope it stays that way. Stay safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 05:36 AM
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That's never been true for me It`s definitely possible with the right person. All my LTRs have been very healthy sex lives. Are you a sex addict or something? I've never had a job and I'm 32 So if you were going for an LTR, you would prioritize his resources over sexual chemistry then? Is it dangerous? I've never been raped as an adult yet, that I can remember. More than just rape; anything violent. Or made to do anything against your will?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 05:28 AM
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Bf = better sex, more frequent Sex hitchiking. Is it dangerous?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 05:10 AM
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It doesn't matter what people think "violent crime" means, we're talking about legal terms. Did you skip over the part where all violent crimes is committed by 0.88% of men? Apparently I was wrong about 2% because it's less, even accounting for those not charged.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 05:02 AM
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Without defining what "sexual abuse" is, that stat doesn't say much. The study is behind a paywall. unrelated, but from a different page on RAINN: Exhibitionism, or exposing oneself to a minor Fondling Intercourse Masturbation in the presence of a minor or forcing the minor to masturbate Obscene phone calls, text messages, or digital interaction Producing, owning, or sharing pornographic images or movies of children Sex of any kind with a minor, including vaginal, oral, or anal Sex trafficking A…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 05:01 AM
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1 in 5 women are raped over the course of their lifetimes. This is a high number, but far from a majority. It's not for rape. Are you kidding me man? You think 20% of women are raped? 34 million American women will be raped? No. That stat is usually a very loose definition of sexual assault, including "leering".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 04:58 AM
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Specifically for murder and sexual assault based on convictions. If you broaden the category to include battery, aggravated assault, robbery, abductions, and account for criminals not convicted you could probably bump up to about 4%. Keep in mind within that % is going to be an individual committing multiple of those crimes, overlapped. The stats from your source included a large portion of "simple assault", which can basically just mean a threat. I wouldn't count that in terms of "violent crime…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 04:21 AM
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It seems that boys are failing at learning about physical and "karmic awareness", as most violent crimes are committed by men. Men are more aggressive than women—it's biological. About 2% of men commit all the crimes. It's not "men." It's a minority of repeat offenders. Boys are doing great.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 03:41 AM
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Ouch. Guess you'll have to get a bf or move
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 03:36 AM
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Is there anything wrong with apps? Buffet of dicks
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 03:30 AM
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Men: not seeing a divorce attorney before they get married
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:53 AM
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Female retaliation is unlimited because men cannot check them without consequence. Your first example got it right: the male dominance hierarchy keeps men in order. Women are out of order. Women are chaos.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:47 AM
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LOL. I was just giving you a tip for reference. It`s clear you`re in shape, for your age probably in the top 10% as women have let themselves go by then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:34 AM
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Oh my!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:26 AM
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The impression I get is that TRP is about faking the value, TRP is not about faking anything because that won't hold up. Any appearance of such is just in the learning stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:25 AM
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But OP is arguing that RP doesn't come across as equally unappealing to women? FDS just teaches women to be even more entitled. It's a huge turn off for men. If she is half decent looking she'll find a LV simp. All of it is about her. RP is all about self improvement. Forget about plating for a minute and you're left with a very attractive man, sculpted in ways that women desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:24 AM
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You taste another woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:18 AM
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BMI is a poor stat bc it doesnt account for muscle or frame. According to BMI bodybuilders are obese Use % body fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:15 AM
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I doubt you actually know people that practice this doctrine. You're basing your opinion on a few posts you read online. You're not in a position to judge if someone is happy. It's like viewing someone's Instagram and they have a bunch of pics of themselves smiling. Doesnt mean they are happy. What you see is a tiny snippet of a complex individual life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:11 AM
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Downvoting is against sub rules here. Have an up vote, friend!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:09 AM
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i've read how the pill makes you like men you wouldn't normally find attractive which is strange. I wouldn't know but that sounds anecdotal. yeah i agree and outside of valid reason i think how you look reflects your values but i don't think i would ever comfort eating and become overweight / obese in front of my husband its so embarrassing and it would seem as if i have no care for what he thinks about my body. and I wouldn't expect her to stay with me if I was an unemployed bum. It works both …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 01:21 AM
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It's just the highest category in the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 01:02 AM
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fiance doesn't want me to use hormonal birth control when we are married so theres only a few non hormonal bc options for us but i'm glad it won't mess with my body and kill my natural desires. that's good. the hormonal one really messes with you. one of my female friends is on it because she has to be for her period, but she put on like 40 lbs. i just try and eat at my maintenance level, i count my steps and 2-3x a week i use weights to keep my body toned. Good job! This is 10x more than the av…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 12:17 AM
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I was talking primarily muscle, because muscle weighs significantly more than fat and is also smaller. So a girl can squat and build stronger thighs and a bubble butt to pack on some lbs. She can also tone up her upper body and add a few there. You can easily find some very fit 135lbs 5'4" women that look better than smaller women who don't put in any effort. Here's a basic example at 5'4" 143lbs. She'd look a lot more toned cutting 8 lbs of fat, but you get the idea that you can be <140 and not…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 11:56 PM
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For me to date her? At 5'4" <125 lbs. Unless for some reason she has more muscle mass and curves but is fit... I mean real curves (tits and ass, not fat) then the top limit would be 140. If she's really tall my limit is 155. Dress size anywhere from 0 to 6, height dependent. Also consider that I date younger women... so that 70% stat isn't age adjusted. It includes the 35+ obese crowd. For the demographic I date it's probably more like 55%.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 11:37 PM
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Never
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 11:09 PM
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It's because food is cheap, portions are huge, most Americans are poor ( = low quality calories), lack of education, and overindulgence is accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 10:17 PM
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I'm just speaking directly, no bullyin. You can't be that young if you're engaged. You're heading into the most legally significant event of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 10:07 PM
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Ooo, you're triggered. how cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 09:49 PM
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great but as you said my opinion doesn't matter I never said this. Considering how many responses you've received it's the opposite. There's numerous attempts to determine how you value men but you're relentless with the hamstering. Your initial post didn't even answer OP, as OP asked for various examples of attractiveness according to celebrities and not a personal example. Your immature and naive response was "everyone ugly but mY FiAnCe is attractive" It's become clear that u/schoolgruel42 sn…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 09:17 PM
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If most people, celebs, and models are ugly according to you then I don't think you'd be able to evaluate SMV. So to answer u/my_alt_account1312 question, you are incapable of assessing his SMV because he's the only guy you find attractive. However, a scout is objective and that definitely establishes a minimum SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 08:25 PM
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i don't find models attractive The question (scale) was never about your personal taste. This is beyond that. has actually been scouted and modelled a few times when he was in his early 20s. This answers the question that his SMV is likely an 8- possibly a 9 depending on non-physical factors. P.S. saying you're not attracted to models when your SO looks like a model is a contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 07:58 PM
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Objectively critiquing SMV, they are delusional if they try to project their personal taste as SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 07:42 PM
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It's a good outcome for the couple. Probably best for you to find yourself a woman who thinks the same about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 07:11 PM
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Agree she's got a pretty face but with that much weight you drop 5 pts
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 07:09 PM
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You date a lot of men, then? Irrelevant sign language. So many women are basic; hobbies include: travel, foodie, selfies, wine. Physical activity? Ha, you're lucky if she does yoga. Again, men are expected to carry the conversation or women move on. Women are adverse to boring men, so they move on until they find an interesting/charismatic guy who is inevitably the more interesting/charismatic one between them. In order for this to balance, you would need men to care more about how interesting a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 05:03 PM
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That makes men interesting to themselves or maybe other men. Give me someone who can tell funny anecdotes and crazy personal stories over someone droning on about a hobby of his I don't share. If a guy is really into sports and a woman isn't he isn't going to drone on about sports. We're very aware of women's disapproval as we are the pursuers and are required to deal with rejection. Refer to #2. Men tell funny anecdotes because women approve of it. Women are boring a.f. and not funny (also refe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 01:16 PM
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Two major reasons why women are typically boring: Men are more interested in things while women are more interested in people. Men have interesting hobbies and experiences to talk about. Women are pursued, therefore it's up to men to be creative and funny. 40-60% of the guys I know have some level of humor in them.... maybe 5% of the women? Yes women have a good sense of humor and laugh with you, but they aren't coming up with the jokes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 11:00 PM
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I've seen the other side of it. It creates an abundance of men for the women who are aware of this and put in a small amount of effort to be interesting and co-operative. The bar is getting lower and lower for women and higher and higher for men, both trends occurring because an increasing number of women believe they are the center of the universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 10:48 PM
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You don't start to get significantly stronger women than men unless you are comparing peak strength women to 80-year-old men. Ever heard of old man strength? bahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 03:03 AM
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Haha wtf bot? Ladies, get em!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 08:20 PM
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Oh for sure. My expectations about PPD still consider that :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 08:07 PM
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Top #1 female tennis player in the world got rekt by the #300ish male player 6-1 and 6-2. Other top male players say she'd probably be #1200 on the men's ranking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 06:43 PM
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Its cool. I was fully expecting a female fighter to post in this thread about women's strength
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 06:31 PM
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Your anecdote didn't make sense at first because you forgot to disclose that you are a man; could be a strong-ass woman beatin' up other women. But later it made sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 03:32 PM
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Yes and it's for a few reasons: Men are about 50% stronger on a lbs for lbs basis of muscle Overall, men are just larger genetically Men build muscle at around 2x the rate of women. An intermediate male lifter might put on 6-8lbs of muscle in a year and an intermediate female lifter might put on 3-4lbs of muscle per year Examples of why men are putting on muscle: More men go to the gym, more men work laborous jobs where they naturally build muscle over time, more men are expected to do the heavy…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 03:17 PM
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But the sex, tho
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 12:06 AM
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I'd watch that movie
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 12:05 AM
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Charisma is not a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 12:01 AM
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We already know they're 5s with enough emotional baggage dragging them down to 4s and the attitude of a 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 11:59 PM
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Thanks, you too!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 03:09 PM
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I know that too well :) Cheers
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 03:02 PM
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P.S. by how quickly you respond on Reddit, I think you'd eliminate 95% of men on the dating market, LOL. I very much appreciate it though :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 02:56 PM
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Yeah that helps. I agree with that. Nobody needs any theory to figure out if someone isn't interested. DatingOver30 knows that part pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 02:52 PM
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We're not addressing your part of "whether he's into TRP". We're addressing: It's pretty easy to vet for. Because If he makes you doubt that he's into you, != TRP. There's no simple formula that TRP men wear to badge themselves as TRP. You're referencing a couple principles out of game theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 02:29 PM
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-Applauds-
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 02:24 PM
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I don't know how you interpreted that? If an alpha isn't interested in someone he's not going to pursue. He has abundance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 02:21 PM
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So you're talking about a guy who has options, some of which are just trying to smash, others may be trying to plate you. But casual sex =/= the guy is red pilled. always taking really long time to reply to my messages It depends on the chick. Works better for hot chicks because you have to behave in an opposite manner to their simps. For the rest, it's often unnecessary because there's enough desire based on other factors she values. You evaluate it based on her interest and her patterns of beh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 02:18 PM
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The red pill uses the same tired techniques for picking up women that pick up artists used to. I see this notion on PPD quite often that PUA = TRP or ignoring a chick = TRP according to this thread. That's a juvenile mistake. Game is only a tool in your toolbelt. You choose what to apply. A lot of men are natural at game and don't need to apply this robotic way of seducing. It's a great way for a guy with no experience to start and as he gains experience he learn the art of seduction and his own…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 02:01 PM
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It's crucial for men to protect themselves in this day and age. The powers are imbalanced heavily in women's favor. TRP enhances LTRs as well when done right.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 07:04 AM
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The options are in proportion to SMV. If his options are a couple 5s it doesnt matter. He won't behave like a HVM because he isn't one. He's ripe for your taking. P.S. you're exaggerating the whole disinterest part
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 07:00 AM
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You've merely described men with options. If your dating strategy is to find a guy 1 notch below that's a legitimate strategy. I definitely wouldn't go for an HB9 for a LTR. I'd rather an HB8 with something special about her- enough to put her above the other HB8s according to my personal preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 06:56 AM
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If you can make a woman constantly laugh you will open many doors. It does wonders- and overrides many of the barriers you've mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 06:49 AM
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That would require the woman to be read up on TRP, which almost none are. Regardless, gaming is an art. Even if you're familiar you might catch an amateur, but not the pro. What provides you assurance is just not going for alphas or HVM and instead go for men who are opposite the stereotype; LVM I suppose. I still know men who are probably somewhere in the middle and apply some principles but not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 06:47 AM
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You really hate TRP dont ya?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 06:43 AM
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That's a good point and my stance is the same. I still think virgins lack life experience in general so I absolutely reject for relationships as well. There's so much to learn from the SMP and so much to learn as a consequence of the SMP. What you might be alluding to is, "if a woman is a 9 but she's a virgin, would you reject her?" and my response is: unicorns don't exist. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 04:12 AM
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Technically that's attraction. If you want to be around them, they are attracting you :P
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 03:02 AM
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You get a Chad! You get a Chad! And you get a Chad! Everybo- Wait, no there's only one Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 03:00 AM
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On the other hand, some women's standards get even higher as they get older and go through failed relationships. These make for the highest quality women, particularly when they have good careers
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 02:57 AM
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Yep, it's true. I do consider it healthy behavior though so long as they are doing it to support one another and not shit on people
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 02:47 AM
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More tendies, more wahmen?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 02:39 AM
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I mean, you're posting on a gender debate forum. You take issue with OP saying "Men should..." to which your empty response is "who cares" instead of actually debating him. You also make it painfully obvious that you haven't read the rest of the thread. I mean who cares about what other people do? By your own admission, who cares about what other people say. Just move along and dont bother posting
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 05:01 PM
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I answered you first post, "If you deny your partner's needs, who cares?" with "Usually the partner cares that their needs aren't met." I didn’t say I don’t care about people’s needs. Well, if your'e saying 1) deny your partner's needs 2) my partner complains 3) I don't care that they are complaining. Then yeah I'd say you don't care about their needs. It’s like the OP wants there to be one universal rule for what is and is not acceptable behavior in all relationships. OP is sharing his perspect…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 04:20 PM
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The quickest shortcut to success for virgins is befriending Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 01:28 PM
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This isn’t unique to just me and men I surround myself with By your own admission, why do you surround yourself with pedofiles?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 05:29 AM
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Dont feed the trolls. Someone with such a fucked up worldview is long gone and utterly hopeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 05:27 AM
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Wait a minute, so if I fuck 100 women it protects me from all those relationship killing dead bedroom women? Sign me the fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 05:20 AM
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I won't fuck a virgin. She needs some sexual experience. Plus, a virgin might get too clingy and hurt in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 05:15 AM
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I won't fuck a virgin. She needs some sexual experience. Plus, a virgin might get too clingy and hurt in the process. Alas, FDS was born.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 05:14 AM
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This. 8 if he asked point-blank 100 girls if they wanted to have sex and be a fuck buddy, I'll be nice and say maybe 15 would say yes Point blank? More like 5 girls unless they are 5s and 6s lol If a key... A key that opens any lock is a master key but a lock that is opened by any key is a shitty lock.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 05:09 AM
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The algorithms don't see race since they removed the race filters due to strong BLM backlash. Dating companies have disclosed this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 07:15 PM
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JP says enforced monogamy but that still wouldn't work because females will just refuse to have sex with their partner and it'll just be a sex starved marriage. So traditionally what we've always had? lol It's up to the couple to have a healthy sex life and you, as a RPM, know that it's up to the husband to demonstrate value and establish burning desire. There is always going to be a minority of situations where the woman turns into an absolute fuckin' prude in a marriage regardless of what the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 06:41 PM
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Plus they're not insecure and wanting to sleep around to prove something to their peers. Sluttiest women I've met are always 5s, 6s, and adjustable 6s. Gotta pump that self esteem!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 04:08 PM
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Oh I'd love to read them!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 03:54 PM
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I dont know what you are in looks, but your competitive advantage might be from factors like charisma, which dont come across on apps. Overall, apps are terrible for men. Apps are okay for chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 01:49 PM
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Yes and this technology has increased market efficiency, which actually increased market inequality. Before, a slightly above average guy might have a chance with an attractive girl in their class. But now that same girl values herself as one of the most attractive girls in the city. Good luck with competing for her attention now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 01:46 PM
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Thats the algorithm. When you first start they front load you with generic pretty white girls and then try to figure out your type after the fact. The algo isn't discriminating. It just shows you the most popular profiles. It's a reflection of people's preferences. We have data on it. White women are swiped the most and black women are swiped the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 06:07 AM
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Yep, you figured it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 05:54 AM
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Ah, I see you like my profile. May I interest you in some OnlyFans?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 05:48 AM
3

You can trust a dog but can you really trust a human?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 05:17 AM
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Like buying a dog?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 03:12 AM
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There are 60-year-old prostitutes in Amsterdam with regular clientele. According to people in this thread, she is higher value now than in her twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 03:00 AM
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That sounds like you were out of shape in your 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 02:58 AM
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they’d usually say they assume my n count would be higher because i’m conventionally attractive. oooo this is my jam. Throughout my life—and perhaps before dating apps—I've known/dated and been privy to the lives of many attractive women. At first common sense might assume, "If the woman is very attractive and has access to any man, of course she's has lots of sex!" But I have found a significant proportion of very attractive women with low N-counts for two reasons 1) Since they are at the top o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 01:48 AM
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The saying goes,"if a woman talks long enough she will eventually tell on herself."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 01:40 AM
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We like collecting flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 12:58 AM
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US is definitely not a conservative country hahaha. You could break it down to a few states, and even then there's still tons of promiscuity. Imagine if OP was from Miami. "My N count is 51 but they won't believe me and keep saying it's 200"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 12:48 AM
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Number of sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 12:44 AM
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Uh... isn't sex new and different with each partner? After you lose your virginity everybody is in the same playing field.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 12:42 AM
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That's because your n count doesnt shrink your dating pool. If your n count was 30 you might be inclined to say 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 12:38 AM
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Still won't get a straight answer but they'll reveal that they lied
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 12:35 AM
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Chad doesnt need to fuck 6s. Chad is spinning 7s, 8s, and 9s.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 12:31 AM
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Why would a woman be comparing a woman to the N counts of men, rather than the N counts of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 12:28 AM
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It might not be explicitly stated in the OP but you can read it throughout this thread: people have emotional and physical needs whether they are male or female. Usually people care about their needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 02:54 PM
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This depends on where you live: As a general rule, the spouse who incurred the debt is responsible for it. If she came in with $300k of student loan debt in her name before marriage he`ll be fine because it`s not a joint debt. The debt will only impact her credit score and creditors will seek repayment from the person who is named on the debt. It`s technically possible for a judge to split the debt in a divorce but that's going to occur only if the debt was incurred during the marriage. Even the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 02:24 PM
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That's a new one! Now I see why he's an ex. I'm glad you're doing better now. Contrary to popular notion that women want a guy to last forever: in my personal experience with women and also the experience of my female friends, it usually goes something like this: Sex for 4m or less just doesn't do anything for her Sex for 7m-12m is ideal Sex for 15m+ with dude hammerin' away has diminishing returns and is usually not as pleasant for her When I say sex, I mean actual intercourse. Personally, I sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 01:43 PM
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LOL! I meant in the stat
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 05:44 AM
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Does that consider common law? Where I'm from they are basically the same thing. Millennials commonly live together without getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 05:34 AM
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That really depends. A lot of millennial women earn a decent income, quite close to their male counterpart, which protects men from alimony. I'd argue it's better now. However, many men are still at risk: high-earning men who don't protect themselves men with high future earning potential men who own a home prior to marriage and invite the woman to move in If the man and woman make similar income but the man's income primarily goes into paying the bills and investing, while her money is for her …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 05:32 AM
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Since men have more to lose from a break up, women don’t feel as compelled to work things out. Dind ding. When there's a severe power imbalance in a relationship it suffers. Contrary to what the blue pillers here think, red pilled men create better relationships because they equalize that power imbalance. RPM satisfy women's desires and take accountability for generating burning desire in a relationship. This is precisely why they are successful with women. Relationships with plentiful, great se…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 05:26 AM
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So you killed your libido?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 04:55 AM
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Was your ex particularly... large? I couldn’t do it two days in a row without tears and swelling oh man I read "tears" as in teardrops and not membrane tearing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 04:52 AM
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Yep, millennials have lower divorce rates because they are more careful in who they commit to. Millennials are willing to wait a long time for the right partner and if not they don't get married. So when two millennials do find the right one and take that leap the chances are pretty high that they will stay together. The problem here is... millennials haven't been married for that long so it could change.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 04:42 AM
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Perhaps I'm not making it clear enough, but there's clear irony here. Earlier you said: that mindset turns into a slippery slop fast. To which later you came up with an imaginary situation and chain of events leading to some negative outcome. Imagine a psychopath reading that and assume it’s okay to rape women because they need sex. You are asserting a slippery slope argument, which is a logical fallacy. In other words, what you're saying is invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 04:06 AM
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You're the one with the slippery slope, my friend. It's your mindset going there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 03:10 AM
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10/10 for snarky comment with no substance.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 03:05 AM
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Like it’s already been stated sex takes physical and emotional effort, especially for women. You think sex takes more physical effort for women, really? Men are almost always in the driver seat. Women aren’t like men we can’t just pull our pants up after sex and go on about our day. We need showers I have never been with a woman who needs to shower after sex. The only time they need to shower is occasionally before sex because they feel insecure if they haven't showered for a couple days—to whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 02:55 AM
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The context was specifically rape... in fact you can read her statement: Asking people repeatedly for sex is considered rape when they finally give in, or at the very least sexual harassment, to which she immediately backpeddles because she doesn't even know the definition herself. Asking for sex multiple times without threat or force is not rape. If she doesn't want to, she doesn't want to. Can it become sexual harassment? Absolutely. But that is different from rape, where each has a different …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 02:37 AM
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The topic is about women denying sex in an LTR, therefore a man's physical needs aren't met. The equivalent argument for the woman's side is her emotional needs. These two things are what men and women have the greatest need for and complain the most about these needs when they aren't met. Men and women do not have identical physical and emotional needs. In other words, the man isn't complaining about his emotional needs. And even if he was, as someone else raised, a man fulfills some of his emo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 01:51 AM
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It really seems like he doesn’t consider that his partner might genuinely be going through something which can cause a dry spell or lack of sex. Introducing more exceptions here? The default position he raised is not about 100 different what-if statements you can think of. It's quite simple: If the woman cannot have sex or just really isn't feeling it this time, then she will communicate that and her guy will understand. But the problem lies in her neglecting his needs on the regular. The soluti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 12:57 AM
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Yep, and we're back to square one. Woman demands her emotional needs are met but the man's physical needs are optional.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 12:51 AM
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There is something almost cruel about how bad women's dating advice for men is. It is not just useless, it is actively harmful. This does not work, but you are either so unaware of what makes you attracted to a man that you somehow believe it does, or you take a perverse pleasure in torpedoing the dying remnants of a woman's sexual attraction for her man. It is equivalent to the infamous suggestion that the way to turn your wife on is to do more chores around the house; advice that is at best ob…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 12:36 AM
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If your partner is in physical pain down there, should they still decide to have sex to please you if it "inconveniences" them? Way to introduce an exception. If someone`s in pain in the nether regions nobody is expecting sex. You're also dangerously close to encouraging rape here At no point did he suggest to be violent, forceful, or threaten injury in order to coerce sex. Don`t twist his words.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 12:03 AM
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Rape is sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury and against their will. Asking repeatedly does not meet that threshold. You must be the one writing the headlines that 1 in 3 women are raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 11:53 PM
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Psychology and psychiatry are not the same thing. The psychiatrist that prescribed Peterson's medication is a medical doctor. Peterson is not a medical doctor, so no he is not an expert in the field of medicine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 11:24 PM
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most women find their husbands high value I hope you mean, "most women perceive their husband to be high value whether they are or aren't." Men cheat because they can, women cheat to feel validated/important/heard/however you want to put it Generally speaking men cheat to meet physical needs and women cheat to meet emotional needs. A female sexologist once described it as, "Men cheat to stay in relationships and women cheat to get out of relationships." Which is another way of saying, men can pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 09:41 PM
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Is this a dig at Peterson or a dig at OP's "source" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 09:26 PM
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My God! if you can date a 23yo then you better rule out those single moms then.... and that includes any twenty-something moms! lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 04:31 AM
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30s? 40s? Is there something wrong with finding a childless woman a bit younger than these single moms? Forgive me, but I don't see the benefit to dating a single mom, unless you're saying that your options are somehow running out
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 04:26 AM
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You can be redpilled, you can be alpha, you can have an abundance of options, and you can also choose to not exercise those options. A RPM can be monogamous but the strategy is to not live with the woman. This protects his resources and secures a stream of plentiful sex with low effort because of burning desire. Who might do this? Older RPers that are tired of the fuckboi game and have resources to protect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 03:54 AM
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That's quite the succinct way to put it!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 03:48 AM
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The convenient thing about hierarchies is that they exist all around us. If you'd like to take the stance that there's a hierarchy for fucking (STR) and a hierarchy for relationships (LTR), then sure it makes sense as people's preferences change slightly. For me there's enough overlap between the two to dig out what's most important. Whether or not it's dating or fucking the same principles apply. But let's examine purely the relationship hierarchy. your "women only date across and up" statement…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 01:41 AM
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You and I agree that it helps. It's a factor that women consider. Some women care more about it than others. if you have the slightest personality as a tall guy you have no issues with women Idk about no issues. Women arent exactly thrilled about tall and fat. But we needn't discuss specifics because overall you and I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 12:50 AM
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Priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 12:46 AM
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"Men are fundamentally like X. Women are fundamentally like Y" Honestly. I don't get it. People are people. Are there trends, sure. But realistically there isn't this huge divide between men and women. Is human behavior completely random? Are all men compeltely different than all men? Are all women completely different from women? Are there behavioral traits shared by >60% of women? Same for men? I can simplify it for you: Men and women are different Men and women are more similar than they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 09:13 PM
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The reason for the distinction is because women are the selectors, while men are the pursuers. Generally speaking, women are pickier with who they date & have sex with, so they typically date across and up. IF women are able to date UP by consequence it means some men are dating DOWN. Men don't date down in looks, they date across and up. Are men... hypergamous? 😱 I'm talking about the male dominance hierarchy and the female dominance hierarchy. What determines the hierarchy are traits desired b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 08:57 PM
1

hahaha. too true
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 08:33 PM
1

I never said take advantage. Your intentions are up to you. Average frustrated chump.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:08 PM
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I'm advising to date from a position of strength and from factors within your control. You're just an AFC with a dose of nihilism. The fact that you're downvoting all my comments is just a projection of your insecurity. You know what's worse than being a short guy? Being an insecure short guy who hates the world for being unfair rather than adapting and overcoming. Those men deservedly get no women because it's the narrative they create.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 05:46 PM
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After 5'5" they'd be better off targeting cultures of a shorter demographic, I.e. go abroad find a shorter woman in Asia or Latin America.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 05:03 PM
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Can I read the source on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 04:34 PM
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You don't know many women then and had the appropriate conversations with them. I've stated my position on it, which is based off of the experience of women and their preferences. It's also based off the experience and success of male friends as short as 5'5". It's not a black or white situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 04:23 PM
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The thing I've always had an issue with has been taking things to more than that and developing romantic/sexual chemistry on top of emotional intimacy. Flirting and kino. Kino is touch. most of the times I've initiated with girls I'm interested in I've been shot down (or things haven't gone past the first couple dates). This is the male experience. Most men are sucessful <5% of the time. A guy who's decently good looking or charismatic is successful 10% of the time. Top shelf men are successful …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 04:19 PM
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As you say --FDS selects for madonna whore complex. I haven't heard of this before. This is hilarious! Nearly as bad or worse, TRP selects for insecure B.P.D. women BPD is a very rare mental illness. Don't exaggerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 04:12 PM
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Here are a few things men consider when dating single moms: Most bachelors aren't ready to be a father and the responsibility that comes with it It's very expensive for men to raise and provide for these children. There's a lot of single moms out there who, quite frankly, are looking for an ATM rather than a partner Generally speaking, men want their own biological children over raising another man's kids. He wants to uphold his legacy and pass on what he has to his children. If the child is a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 04:08 PM
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-shrug- I guess. I wouldn't know because I am affected, same for all the men in my family. I advocate that both men and women get prenups. I have female friends who earn more than their male counterparts. There's some sort of taboo with prenups for most people, but a divorce attorney would laugh at that. Most people put more thought into what college they go to or sometimes the car they buy than the ramifications of marriage, otherwise known as the most legally significant contract they will ent…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 03:39 PM
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Yeah I don't get this whole "demisexual" thing for women. A significant proportion of women wait weeks to months to have sex until there's an emotional connection. The demisexual identifier makes more sense for men because men are visual.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 03:26 PM
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Yep, and it's why I say height is a dealbreaker and not a main driver. Same with penis size. The harder I worked the more I realized the things you can control dont matter. They matter for everyone. If you didn't work on those things you would be in a worse situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 03:19 PM
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That's still a large proportion of women. It doesn't need some special label. It would make a lot more sense if the definition was confined to men because men are biologically visual creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 03:18 PM
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everything you're saying is irrelevant, as a short man you have to be funny, rich, charismatic to overcompensate, no shit. It's absolutely relevant and the reason why height isn't as significant as people like to purport here. I'm not making any claim that height isn't a factor. Women also value an emotional connection with men and have whole other laundry list of non-physical traits that attract them to men more importantly than height. I'm talking about default short men and default tall men, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 03:02 PM
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Na, I never downvote on this sub. When you posted that I was sleeping lol. Demisexuals do get physical attraction, but they need to get that emotional bond first. As I've stated in other posts, this is just women in general. That doesn't even match the definitions of demi found online. Most women do not want to jump a guy's bones immediately when they see him. For the women that do, it's a tiny minority of men, i.e. the most physically attractive men in the hierarchy. The main driver of attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 02:36 PM
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Sex isn't the threshold. The emotional connection develops as they spend time with their partner and get to know one another. Attraction for women is more like a story than an immediate urge to fuck a bunch of hot guys. My point is, yes women have some level of physical attraction but it's not the main driver. It's always been known women's most significant sexual organ is her brain. It's always been known that most women prefer literotica over porn. It's about the fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 02:31 PM
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They aren't. I'm not sure how you interpreted that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 02:26 PM
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Yes and no, it depends. Men are valued on a variety of non-physical factors and can compensate for being short. I know a 5'5" guy who's the funniest guy you've met and with lots of charisma. He has no trouble with women and the highest n count in our group. The height definitely plays a factor- equalize that same charisma for the 6' guy and he will do better. But overall, height serves more of a dealbreaker for women than something of top priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:58 AM
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Have we "debated" before? I feel like the most relatable and agreeable RPers are always the ones that hang back and debate less... or something. I don't believe we have. I do debate quite actively.... in fact I should probably spend less time here, lol And I wouldn't saying I'm 100% RP. My biggest gripe is AWALT- it's ignorant and has not been my experience in dating, with LTRs, or with female friends. There's even enough science to prove variability. If TRP just shifted to "most women are like"…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:53 AM
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No, it doesn't because 40-60% is HUGE. It`s founded on the basis of at least "most". When claims are made about men and women it's never, "half of men" or "a minority of women."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:37 AM
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How is it "pill theory" if they basically just covered literally all men? I just mean, you can be red pilled and monogamous. They aren`t mutually exclusive. I thought it's pretty standard RP theory to avoid marriage at all costs, and no "true" HVM would ever elect that option though? Not saying you're wrong, but that's the impression I've gotten from RPers here. I mean if we're talking purely about monogamy there are RP men that are monogamous but don't live with the woman. Yeah I get the feelin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:29 AM
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Imo, it's 40-60%... This completely invalidates all pill theory and all game theory. It even invalidates the components of these theories that have always existed but not described in theory form until the 21st century. It even goes against science, as most behavioral trait differences between men and women are split 60-40. Things like aggression and agreeableness. This means if you were to pick a random man and women, if you had to bet on one of them being more aggressive, if you pick the man y…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:18 AM
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I like monogamy So this is still captured in pill theory. Some men take the approach of, "Be attractive to all women but choose one." I don't believe in the whole HVM inevitably cheat or HVM can't cheat rather they exercise an abundance of options. However, it's still within RP theory to be monogamous and you can still be a HVM who is monogamous. The qualifier is: you have an abundance of options but you choose not to act on them. Looks matter a lot (they can definitely be a deal-breaker if I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:13 AM
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It's the basis of Red Pill theory so I don't know why it's not said. Maybe blue pillers and incels are responding.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:03 AM
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See here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:01 AM
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See here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:00 AM
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Ah, so demisexual exists. But it sounds like most people don't understand the definition and are not demisexual.... particularly women who have both physical and emotional attraction. Ty!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 05:59 AM
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AWALT: my experience is NAWALT. Female obsession with height: from my experience not every woman strongly desires tall men. the minimum requirement is to be taller than them. The bonus level is tall enough that they are same height when she wears heels. This is contrary to the popular notion that guys must be well above average height. I've only see tall women, i.e. 5'9" + with strict height requirements. But for everyone else, I know plenty of 5'5" to 5'10" men who get plenty of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 05:55 AM
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Attraction via emotional connection is quite literally the female experience. It's well documented in pill theory, game theory predating early 2000s, and heck... even science!!! Considering that women establish an emotional bond during sex different from men. As far as I can read from its definition, if a demisexual person has zero physical attraction to people, then it exists. If there is physical attraction to someone, then it's a typical experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 05:48 AM
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demisexaulity Does this mean that physical attraction doesn't exist for you? A 250 lbs 5'4" bald man is no different than a 6'2" 200 lbs Chad with a six pack and full hair? I'm going by the definition: Demisexual people only feel sexually attracted to someone when they have an emotional bond with the person. EDIT: Thanks for the downvote but it's against sub rules: Rule 10. How about you respond instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 05:41 AM
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Allow me to rephrase in simpler terms. From OP: what is commonly said .... that doesn't represent your personal experience You say: I know too many girls who have fucked/dated dudes or are currently fucking/dating dudes way uglier than them, have also dated some very ugly fat guys, and know too many ugly fat dudes with average or even cute gfs. And the girls are in their teens/early 20s too, not "settling down" at 30+ This is commonly said on PPD. It's not a unique experience. Women have high st…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 05:34 AM
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No, Johnny, there isn't an army of gold diggers out there just waiting to get their paws on your $60K salary, 2012 Camry, $15K 401K, and PS5. You don't need to live life in fear that someone is going to take all your assets. This is backwards. There is no claim to assets prior to marriage. There is claim to future income. What you've listed are things that are protected- what's at risk is everything in the future. If he earns $1m in assets in his lifetime he may be entitled to only $500k. There'…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 05:22 AM
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Close to demisexuality, so what people say here about attraction just doesn't work for me. I know it's never said but the assumption when talking about gender dynamics is between heterosexual men and women, which accounts for about 93% of people. The LGBTQ community is: very fragmented represents a small proportion of the population is relatively new and therefore common knowledge and studies is lackluster Each subset is going to behave differently. The gay community doesn't operate even remotel…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 05:13 AM
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Women date across and up. Men date across and down. You're just speaking to what's commonly said. And the other problem is, you're only speaking about physical attractiveness which aren't even judged as the same priority by each gender. It would be uncommon for very attractive man dating a girl who is very unattractive. Since the dawn of time unattractive men have been compensating in some form or another to date attractive women. They also value on different scales. You can have a HVM who isn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 05:03 AM
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Good insight. 1 is rare because a lot of good women were snatched up in their twenties and didn't divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 04:59 AM
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Nurses are over-worked and underpaid. COVID is a prime example. Also, I imagine you're quoting the US with privatized healthcare. Those would be the highest rates in the world, but the overwhelming majority of countries globally do not pay nurses well. Most are going to be in the $40k-$80k range.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 02:27 AM
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LTR and SMV is the same thing, but cheers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 04:01 PM
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The debate was never about self worth or value as a human. That is separate from value on the SMP and sexual dynamics, which can include almost anything between the genders- things that are non-sexual in nature but still influenced by sexual forces.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 03:48 PM
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I don't know what you mean by the traditional part. She has to be fit, feminine, friendly, fertile, co-operative, and submissive. She also needs most typical wife skills: cooking, child rearing, cleaning, managing the household, and supporting her husband in being a winner. There's negotiation in the division of responsibilities between the husband and wife, but if the husband is making well into the six figures and presumably working 60h-100h per week he's not doing most of that. If his income …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 03:01 PM
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I don't know if I quite understand what you're saying but I think I agree? All discussions of SVM are primarily about attractiveness first and a handful of other traits later. But it depends on the gender b/c men and women desire different things. When men rate, it's about attractiveness because that's the top priority. Attractiveness is also clear cut- you know what you're getting right in the beginning. Physical attractiveness, I would argue, is also more consistent on an aggregate scale. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 01:57 PM
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Introvert?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 04:51 AM
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i can really trust over most other people. .... not a dog lmao... You can probably trust a dog more than people when you think about it :P you know women of high incomes fall in love with men who make less too, right? love and attraction is a big thing. It does happen yes- although I would say it's very uncommon for the woman to make significantly more money. What happens is: her standards rise because of her job & income, but as we established in this thread that doesn't really affect how a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 04:35 AM
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She can get a FWB to scratch her itch, friends for emotional needs, and a dog for companionship. If a woman doesn't want children and has a high income she doesn't have a major reason to settle down with a guy. It's probably more hassle than it's worth and it's why we still see so many women not "settling" for a man who makes less than them. There's enough out there these days for women to sustain themselves on their own. In fact, if she really wanted children she could get sperm from a sperm ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 04:04 AM
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Besides the point. 30k-40k then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 02:54 AM
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Assume a woman makes $100k. What does she get from an unemployed man?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 01:22 AM
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Let's even the playing field a bit. Average person making 100k or beautiful person making 50k. Men choose the beautiful woman, women choose the $100k.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 01:11 AM
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But those are different things. It's like the saying money can't buy you happiness but being poor can make you miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 01:02 AM
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The higher the man's income, the less important is the woman's income. A man making $200k+ can afford anything he desires, materially speaking. If he desires a family then he can afford one on that income but he doesn't have the time, and often the skills, to raise the family on his own. That's why HVM value traditional women and income doesn't matter. It's most important for the woman to be attractive & take care of herself, have the skills and drive to take care of the home and family, and sup…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 05:45 PM
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I agree with that!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 04:46 PM
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He does one of Alexander Grace's videos. RP guy showing video to girls of RP guy asking girls about RP thoery. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 04:09 PM
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It's really not and I know this because it's the women disproving that theory. You can take a poll from women—many women here have spoken up as well. The consistent judgement is, "is he taller than me" and sometimes "is he taller when I wear heels." The only women I've met that have strict limits on male height are >= 5'9". I know 5'7" - 5'8" women who consistently date 5'8" to 5'10" men. I know many 5'1" to 5'5" women who consistently date 5'5" to 5'7" men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 03:42 PM
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5'7-5'9 range because they are still short/manlet status The average height for a male is 5'9", which means most men are about 5'8" to 5'10". That is absolutely not manlet height. Where did you derive your opinion from, bodybuilding.com? To think that a guy has to be in something like top 20% of height otherwise he's a manlet is foolish. If I was a betting man I would say most of the men she had sex with were in the 5'11 to 6'4 height range. It's too broad of a statement to prove. So many other …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 03:24 PM
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I think we can detach Height (for man) and Weight (for woman) from Looks. I understand that men focus more on weight and women focus more on height when viewed as a dealbreaker but you can't lump them in the same bucket. You can change your weight but you can't change your height. Men still care about height to a certain degree, i.e. men don't want super tall women, and women care about weight to a certain degree, i.e. they don't want fat men or super skinny men. You need to compare height vs. h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 03:17 PM
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Luckily only 6% of women are feminist self identifiers in the USA -- most women know the connotation of feminism! According to PEW Research 61% of women describe themselves as feminists, where 17% is very well and 42% is somewhat well. I think 17% sounds about right, where most of the 42% are just along for the ride when it conveniently benefits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 02:52 PM
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I have mixed feelings about misandry, it's nothing more than just some utter social media BS. It's not stopping men or women from holding office, getting jobs or being free. People are now being recruited for jobs based on their gender, sexual orientation, and race. I would argue society is becoming more discriminatory than it was not too long ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 02:24 AM
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push men towards radicalization and then the men are justified in being so. Nobody is going to listen to some misogynistic lunatic preaching hatred against women, most guys are going to just laugh at his incel ass. TRP isn't radicalization, misogynists preaching hate toward women, or a group of incels. You're confusing it with black pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 02:21 AM
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Has there actually been a son of a man-hating feminist that became a terrorist?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 02:17 AM
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I like to divide level of feminists into a few categories: Women who believe in equality for both genders Women who only care about what benefits women and don't care about men Women who only care about what benefits women and are anti-men, including radical feminists The two dateable categories are category 1 and women who are not feminists. You can probably have a relationship with category 2 but be very cautious because over the long-term most of these women are going to give you a headache a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 10:44 PM
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Yeah I know an obese single woman who had a child at 40 who turned out severely autistic. She waited to 40 due to combination of being a career woman in corporate and ofc overweight. She was also a really huggy/touchy person with younger attractive men. I didn't mind so much, but it was kinda sad. EDIT: So I misread that as 5%-10% chance, not 5% - 10% more of an insignificant number. Using "more" is a dishonest way to represent insigificant statistics. So there's no practical difference for auti…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 08:18 PM
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First you had men telling women what to do and now you have women telling women what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 08:16 PM
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Haha, no. I have options and I'm not interested or I've been in a relationship. Or my personal favorite... being in a relationship and rejecting my SO. Her her face is like, "What! You cant do that!"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 08:12 PM
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I've done it a number of times. Kicks them right in the self confidence. They assume all guys want to sleep with them and are appalled when they are knocked back down to earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:26 PM
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The women who call in want HVM. Kevin walks them through the process of helping them understand their value and what HVM want. He then advises a lot of women to go for average men because they just won't ever get a HVM. He particularly recommends this to the high-earning women because they also tend to be older, have kids, and want a guy making $400k because she makes $100k. He'll go through the math explaining why they won't find the guy making $400k and based on the women's value she needs to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:08 PM
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Get your pets spayed and neutered!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 06:59 PM
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eternal bachelors have to manage their own home life I'm gonna guess that eternal bachelors live as foul bachelor frogs, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 05:00 PM
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fair
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 04:58 PM
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There’s surrogacy It's not easy finding a match and surrogacy can get really expensive. adoption (which is not rare at all what are you talking about), There's 135,000 adoptions in the US of all ages. There's 4 million babies born each year. Most of the adoptions are parents who cannot conceive children. So what are you talking about? freezing eggs This is an option but it's very expensive and out of reach for most women. but even more important to accept is that the focus of a woman’s life does…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 04:50 PM
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What options are you talking about? A woman can pay for semen and be a single parent but that's not good for the kid. I'd apply the same argument that the woman is being selfish. Adoption has been an option though historically for parents with fertility issues. Adoption is quite rare, save for same-sex marriages. I suppose a 40+ woman could adopt but how common is that? Is that really what women prefer?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 04:35 PM
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He grew up in a stable healthy family with quality female role models who taught him by example what healthy expectations for a man to set for a female partner are, and he's capable of recognizing that most modern females are nowhere even remotely close to meeting the standards set by the women in his life. He's not interested in committing to a woman who's already committed to another man(men)'s family(families), nor a woman who's already married to her career because he doesn't want to be his …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 01:52 PM
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The 8 year relationship was with a woman who had mental illness. Schizophrenia, depression, and anxiety—so we never wanted to raise ticking time bomb kids. Schizophrenia is genetic. Do you have that stats on that, though? The most inheritable mental illnesses have an inheretibility of 50%. Assuming the other parent doesn't have the gene, there would be a 25% chance of the child having the illness. If that 25% does happen, it's not so bad if they have a stable parent who shares the same experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 01:51 PM
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When you can cheat on your spouse and still get 1/2 of their stuff + support for the rest of your life, marriage is just a financial risk not worth taking anymore. Absolutely. IMO, it's only worth the risk if A) you want a family and B) You seriously vet women, where only about 5%-10% qualify and C) you have a really good lawyer before and during your marriage who does their best to protect you and your assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 01:42 PM
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Single men are treated as second class in business past a certain age? Something only the older gens understand and that nobody thinks about is that 90%-95% of these high value men moving up the corporate chain are married. If they are not married they are looked at as unstable. It's fine if they have kids or divorced, but the eternal bachelor is not viewed positively in corporate/social/networking circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 01:39 PM
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Meanwhile society still expects men to be the providers. Modern women want traditional men but they aren't traditional women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 01:36 PM
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Women get this stigma too- single at 30+, never married, no kids, isn’t your clock running out? This is absolutely relevant if the wants kids though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 01:35 PM
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This is nontraditional and captures a wide variety of men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 04:49 AM
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I get the feeling you're a dom?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 04:46 AM
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Woa, resurrection. That is not a dealbreaker. The above list is my ideal type and if she's good on the rest then its fine by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 02:41 AM
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Respects. Personally, I have had two LTRs (5+ years) and walked away from both without the financial and emotional scars/baggage of divorce. Doing it right
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 01:09 AM
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Women are the least diverse sex -- differences in height & intelligence are compressed in a smaller/tighter spectrum (i.e. there are fewer very smart women per capita than very smart men, but there also fewer very dumb women per capita than very dumb men), more likely to share the same beliefs as each-other than men, etc. This is factual but only at the extreme tail ends. It literally doesn't matter because 98% of the population overlaps significantly such that there is no material difference. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 06:26 PM
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Very nice!! I would like to subscribe to prairie vole facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 04:52 PM
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What is problematic here, is that what the redpill always does do, is discredit the validity of women's choices by implying that they do not have agency If you're just saying AWALT is false, then I agree with you. If you're saying women have agency to not behave in ways described by TRP that doesn't matter if women still behave that way. You are correct that they give the game away by constantly using morally charged language to imply that "female nature is inherently bad". TRP's message isn't "…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 04:48 PM
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Hahaha I would like to subscribe to Bonobo Facts
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 04:36 PM
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I read it. Quit whining. There's no source on the data. The only data provided is a separate section on child support. The infographic was made by a marketing company and the custody claims have no source.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 02:41 PM
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You can keep bending, twisting and trying to distract from the original argument in order to make yourself appear "right" but that doesn't work here. Your perception of events is: “Oh no! That poor man just got his kids taken away by the evil man-hating courts and his evil bitchy wife!” \^ I’m sure you think these neglectful fathers are perfect More sign language, emotions, and putting words in people's mouths. Keep distracting. Facts don’t care about your feelings. Take your own advice and leav…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 02:40 PM
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Go read the post. There is no source. It's an infographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 02:35 PM
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That was already shared. Look further down the chain: I responded. The source is invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 02:31 PM
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The reality is father don’t won’t to take care of there kids if they don’t have don’t have to. Still pushing your straw man agenda. The argument was, women have the advantage in family courts. If it's going to courts, these are men fighting for custody. Men don’t fight for there kids in court. Oh interesting, that website has the same stats as the infographic you posted. The source is a website called "Divorce Peers" which doesn't even exist. This blog also doesn't backup their argument agianst …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 02:12 PM
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Ding ding. When it's already not in your favor you want a method with the least resistance possible. Legal battles get extremely expensive, time consuming, and exhaustive. It's the saying, "Pick your battles."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 01:57 PM
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Like I said 91%(!) of cases are settled out of court. This is an infographic about custody that provides no source. Your perception of events is: “Oh no! That poor man just got his kids taken away by the evil man-hating courts and his evil bitchy wife!” Your argument was invalid from the beginning and you made a straw man argument. The OP you responded to was talking about court orders and you responded with claims about private settlements. That doesn't refute his argument whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 01:49 PM
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FDS needs a slogan: "The only reality that exists is the reality that you believe."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 01:22 PM
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You certainly don't have statistics to back it up otherwise you would. Settlements are private so any claims about it is talking out your ass. Analyzing court ordered data is valid. Regardless of custody arrangements, 87% of the time the children live with their mother (Table 6, above).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 01:13 PM
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The vast majority of custody is settled outside of court between the two parents and its 50/50 custody. This is completely made up. About 80% of the time women get sole custody. Only 7% of the time do men. The rest is shared. custody is settled These are legal terms where settled is private, so you can't make claims about private information.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 01:07 PM
2

Hahaha RIP, Jack.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 02:12 AM
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Men who are made to wait are paying a higher price. The man who respects himself doesnt wait and moves on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 12:20 AM
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Rich is accurate. No sex is inaccurate because rich men have options. He would just find another girl. The money is indirectly paying to get into the panties. And yes plenty of twenty something girls will fuck rich 40 something and 50 something guys
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 04:35 PM
4

Are you joking?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 04:34 PM
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If they are around the same age they got together when they were much younger. If there's an age gap the less attractive partner is compensating in some big way or occasionally the attractive person has a big red flag or non visible ailment. The most common situations are relationships that began while still in school. The second most common situation is wealthy, average/unattractive guy with an attractive girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 04:30 PM
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You say that as if guys don't want the hottest girl they can get They are just stating that as a fact. Why are you twisting this around to be about guys? It's not like there's an unlimited supply of hot-guy dick (or even average-guy-dick, seeing as how "women rate most men as below average") Of course there's an unlimited supply of average dick. It's their CHOICE to not go for average guys. The only time aversge isn't in full supply is when the girl is well below average... but she will still be…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 02:53 PM
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What's changed with OLD is instead of 500 people being interested in someone, now it's 10,000. Or with instagram, now it's 1,000,000. The top 15%, 10%, 5%, 1% of each gender has greater reach and easy access to more suitors. In sexual market dynamics, these people are now "wealthier." On the other side of the spectrum, there's a growing number of incels. When an Alpha fucks 50 people, there will be many more betas who fuck 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 11:57 PM
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It offers more accurate pricing. You can ask out the person next to you and before OLD they might give you a shot at least for a drink, but now with OLD they learn their value is higher and you won't stand a chance. The HV person now has more access to partners than before and eventually everyone reaches an equilibrium where they are priced according to their value. This creates the appearance of inequality, as the highest value person who was top 1% in their high school just became top 1% in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 06:27 PM
5

Earns, not deserves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 06:19 PM
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I didn't say it was successful. The movement demonstrates two things: 1) Overall, society still rejects fat as healthy/attractive 2) of the people who are accepting of fat, they're only accepting of fat women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 06:08 PM
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I'm not talking about types of insults; I'm talking about the opposite of insults. There's only one social movement to help fat people... but it's really just to help fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 05:42 PM
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Obesity bad: Health Self Discipline Self esteem Correlation with laziness (but not always) Driven by impulse reward system, potentially other impulse problems that are non visible Lifestyle mismatch- Cant/won't participate in many physical activities Obesity gets expensive Physically unattractive. Few main points: Men primarily care about physical attractiveness over other traits People can change their weight even if it's harder for some, all can change it. Women love to shit on men's physical …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 05:37 PM
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Also fat/obese/overeight males are heavily insulted on a regular basis Only women are helped by "body positivity." Men are just shit on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 05:29 PM
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The BPD complaint bs is exaggerated all over the manosphere. Almost none of these guys have a clue what BPD is. It's like, "oh a woman has a trait that I don't like, therefore she has a mental illness affecting 2% of women" Promiscuity is not a symptom of BPD- it's not in the DSM 5. One of the nine criteria is impulsive behavior, which encompasses a variety of behaviors not limited to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 02:57 PM
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The US has a rape 27.3 of 100.000 per year that is for the whole population ruffly 870.000 per year, there is a similar rate of divorce rapes per year. When you're comparing danger between the sexes, in other words the severity of the consequences (pain & suffering), it's not about the frequency of the crime for the population. Male aggression, superior strength, and even genetilia make sexual encounters more dangerous for women. In other words, rape is a whole different game if a man can pin yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 01:24 PM
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Exception, not the rule?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 12:12 PM
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Well I would argue that sex is more dangerous for man especially unprotected sex Alright man, let me just swoop in here before the ladies tear you apart. Sex is 100% more dangerous for women. There is no argument here. They have significantly higher chance of sexual assault / rape compared to men. Women are biologically more susceptible to STDs than men. If a women gets pregnant, whether she has the child or an abortion there are significant consequences for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 12:10 PM
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Yeah this is very true. I've noticed people with high N-counts either aren't interested in LTRs (fair) OR, more importantly, if they do want LTRs they just suck at relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 03:06 AM
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Most women who have had casual sex aren't attracted to men who have hangups about a woman's sexual past, anyway, so it's kind of irrelevant. I don't see that as part of the attraction equation. The typical factors like wealth, physical attractiveness, status, charisma etc. still override any minor factor such as opinions on sexual past. Most men who want casual sex are able to have it once they have had a relationship that involved sex, because then they usually start getting the confidence nece…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 03:02 AM
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There's a word for this comment. Is it gatekeeping? I cant recall
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 01:31 AM
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Most men are willing to cheat/leave their gf for a prettier woman This is not true at all. A lot of men have values and don't cheat. Most men won't risk cheating/leaving because the consequences of doing so are grave: divorce rape & family courts. The men who have the ability to do what you've named are HVM, who quite frankly have no need to commit to one woman as they have the ability to exercise their abundant options. Women will lower their moral standards for chads. So will men for extremely…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 06:24 PM
2

What do you mean, after a certain age a man isn't interested in commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:52 PM
2

pfffft. tons of alphas go bald, yet they're jacked, wealthy, high status, smooth etc. you know what makes you go bald? testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:51 PM
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40 and broke
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:49 PM
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it's also the fact that it's best to be at least financially stable before having one, Finances are by far the greatest reason to not have children and is universal to all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:36 AM
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I'm not a woman who has given birth. If you've had a defining experience then it's on you to share that. Your only response is "do the research." That's not how this works. If you make a claim you support it; you source it. You don't tell others to go build your argument for you. You then respond to one point of my whole post while ignoring the rest. You're not here to have a discussion. You're an absolute waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:26 AM
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Why don't you get off a debate forum if your'e going to provide an argument with no backup and tell other people to do the work?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:12 AM
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body Most bodily changes from pregnancy are temporary If she wasn't into fitness before then it sounds like a lazy way to retain what you have. Plenty of women look great after pregnancy, but they put the work into fitness to ensure that happens. You have options- it's not a death sentence Your body decays regardless. You're delaying the inevitable. Gravity affects all in due time. her relationship Is it only about her, what if the husband wants children? In that case, not having children will h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:04 AM
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No worries, they're just not old enough yet to regret NOT having children. What does life have in store in old age without children?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 04:33 AM
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About?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:16 AM
-3

Most of it is sign language and denial. These women sing a different tune in their 30s. P.S. birds of a feather flock together
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:07 AM
2

Black Porcelain or Black Widow...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:59 AM
2

Bad bot. It's weak-ass bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 05:41 AM
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What a bunch of whiny weak ass bullshit. Most of that garbabe is senseless complaining. You can create an equivalent list of previlges for women. A large part of it is untrue and outdated: bunch of smoke and mirrors to push the helpless women agenda. If you believe in nonsense like this then just give up. Quit. Why bother? It's so awful being a woman isn't it? Life is unfair. Get some accountability. Deal with it. We all have struggles. Real struggles. You keep this victim mentality and you will…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 05:24 AM
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Also depends how long they were together. I was with one of my exes for 10 years. I don't think a single guy after that would be comfortable with me remaining friends with her, even though we broke up completely amicably and have no intentions of getting back together- in fact we would help each other find a new partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 01:20 PM
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Are you saying you're comfortable with your partner being around their ex as long as you trust them?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 06:50 PM
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You don't graduate from the friend zone. There's sexual desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 06:46 PM
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Taking what you've said into consideration, for a woman to know her SMV she needs to base it off the highest SMV guys that are into her, assuming for LTR, as STR has no gauge.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 06:01 PM
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They’re using feminism to either backdoor their way into women’s panties Surprise buttsex!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:37 PM
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For me to move the goal posts to 3 months two things would need to happen: The woman needs to be really different than the rest for me to invest 3x the time in her Settling down needs to be my top priority, i.e. late 30s Neither of these situations have occurred. I have certainly had LTRs with high quality women- but none of them had me wait 3 months, just wasn't needed. I’m assuming you’re a hetero guy. You would not believe the crap that comes out of guy’s mouths when they talk to women. Yes, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 05:58 AM
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But, you kind of are. I mean, through all your posts you’ve been talking about that you wouldn’t want to wait more than a month for sex to happen. Maybe it takes a woman six weeks, two months? Your hardline is one month. Give in or I’m out. I don't ask women to give in, LOL. And there's always two sides. Why is sex only about the woman? She might control access to it, but if she reduces it at the expense of a man it hurts the relationship. A healthy romantic relationship needs healthy sexual com…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:56 AM
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This means its impossible to have a good faith discussion about feminism here, because more than half of the posters on the subreddit don't have a good faith understanding about what it is. Feminists don't know what feminism is. You have thousands of different feminists that can't agree on a definition and millions of women that really don't give a shit about equality unless it benefits them in some way and stay silent about issues that don't serve their own interests. Feminism is fragmented.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:32 AM
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Did you go and find a definition to fit your narrative? "Feminism, the belief in social, economic, and political equality of the sexes." Britannica " feminism is about all genders having equal rights and opportunities." - International Women's Development Agency
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:22 AM
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And you’re potentially missing out on a good woman by not being patient. It doesn't take me 3 months to figure someone out, what I need to know about moving up with the relationship can happen in the first month. I suppose you're suggesting that I'm comfortable with a chick after a month, but she's not, so I need to wait around. Thing is, what's so special about her that keeps me waiting around? I don't fall for oneitis or put her on a pedestal. I haven't run into this issue. It might be the cas…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:17 AM
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Oh I know it very well. But feminists confuse the word "equality" with "benefits for women to attain" Just stop lying about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:48 AM
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There are men's issues as well as women's issues. Feminism claims to want equality for both genders but in reality it's self-serving doctrine. What do feminists do for men's issues? Absolutely nothing. It's all about women- it's in the name. If you want to be self-serving that's fine but don't lie about wanting equality. You only want what benefits you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:18 AM
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Yeah, great. Let me know when feminists actually want equality and give a shit about men. How many waves is that gonna take. Can you do it by the 14th wave?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:00 AM
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I`m actually not too familiar, is Blackpill just a synonym for incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:59 AM
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If you can’t wait until she’s ready for sex, you are indeed using her for sex. That’s great if you have noble intentions but if you can’t respect her boundaries, you’re not as noble as you think. No worries, I give her a month. If she needs 3 months she's not a sexual enough person. Incompatible; low libido. The relationship will inevitably end up where she's holding back sex because she's "not comfortable" while the man is like, "so if you're not gonna fuck me, can I get a hall pass?" It's a tw…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:53 AM
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It may mean she’s REALLY into you but doesnt want to make the mistake of things getting physical too quickly and you dump her right after because you’re using her for sex. I’m not saying you are but it’s a thought women think about. Let's take off my timeline for a second and assess this. If I get physical with her in 1 month or 3 months, what difference does that make for dumping her after sex? If I'm going to use her for sex I'm going to use her for sex (I don't). The timeilne doesn't change a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:55 AM
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I've never had an issue sleeping with a woman within a month. After a month I'm out. It demonstrates that she's not into me. I don't expect a woman to sleep with me on the 1st date- that's offputting- but if it's been 4 weeks and she doesnt want to jump my bones I'm moving on. If she has no intention of sleeping with me either during that period I expect her to move on as well and not string me along for 3 months hoping things will get better. Only times I've had a woman not interested in anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:24 AM
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by having sex off the table for a while? How long is awhile? If you don’t want to pay for dates in the meantime, then don’t. I’ve never expected a guy to pay for me. If she gets mad that you aren’t taking her out on expensive dates, dump her. You’re doing yourself a favor. It's not about the money and I agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 12:30 AM
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There’s so many men on this sub that shit on women for not putting out right away because they don’t want to wait but then shot on them for being “whores” for having sex on the first date. You're missing the middle ground. Men don't expect you to sleep with every guy you meet. They expect you to not string them along. If you're not attracted enough to a guy to get physical with him then just move along. It's about putting out for the right guy, while not wasting everyone's time. You can still ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 12:09 AM
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I supported feminism when it was about equal rights in the 20th century. 3rd wave feminism has nothing to do with equality and everything to do with power
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 12:00 AM
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I'm sure feminism changed a lot of things and will continue to put women above men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 11:50 PM
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Yeah I'd agree even a guy can make a massive difference in physique in 12-24 months if he's fat or weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 11:47 PM
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That happened to me last year, so in January I jumped back on the horse. Although I haven't been able to workout my upper body for a couple years since a car accident. Only recently started using some resistance bands. But now my lower body is jacked more than anyone I know lol. Oh boy, can't wait to balance out the top. My % b.f. has dropped to 13.9% in last couple months from cycling. I will continue to drop it to 13.5% by the summer and likely hover around there as I continue recomposition. R…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 11:46 PM
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You might have had more like 13.5 to 14% bf with huge abs. Getting abs to show on any guy at 15% is very difficult unless they have the genes and muscle definition for it. Anyways, overall at your weight if you had skinnier legs your upper body would be huge. I've seen some 5'9" 170lbs bodybuilders with insane physique. Mind you they are at 8%-10% bf but still impressive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 11:22 PM
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Feminism has as much to do with equality as communism has to do with Wall St.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 11:06 PM
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LOL how the f would that be average OP Just described all the 2s and 3s. Max range for fat short bald is 4 with that salary LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 11:03 PM
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When I was 11. I had a crush on this really pretty girl who rode my bus. My boy's been slaying straight outta the womb
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 11:00 PM
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I adore the honesty
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 10:58 PM
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What was your weight back then or % bf?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 10:57 PM
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Birds of a feather flock together.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 10:56 PM
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A nice body isn't easy- its the most achievable. It's hard work over many years. It's also much harder for men bc we need a good 3-5 years to build a solid physique, whereas a woman is fine by losing weight within a year whether she works out nor not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 10:53 PM
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When I walked through a mall in my mid twenties and 30 women of various ages checked me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 10:35 PM
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Unfortunately that guy isn't redpilled. He's a dumbass LARPing as his perception of a RPer, LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 10:23 PM
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Interesting... didn't know that. thanks. -not american
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 08:28 PM
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Adapt and overcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 08:09 PM
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Are you okay Typical deflection when a woman is called out. Your games don't work here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 05:23 PM
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Unironically red pill is fair because life is unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 05:19 PM
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I don't get the black pill argument. Can an ugly guy not get jacked and a good job and some charisma? He can rocket up to a 7. The common theme with black pillers is being a nihilistic loser. The common theme with red pill is adapt and overcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 03:15 PM
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You're forgetting that the principles are not common sense. They are lessons traditonally passed down by male role models. The existence of male role models has significantly eroded in the last twenty years, which is why we have an explosion in popularity of advice for men. This is in large part and further compounded by an increasingly feminized society. Society is producing weak men, where the minority of strong men are becoming more and more desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 03:06 PM
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It sells It drives home the point so men buy-in (swallow the pill) rather than giving them a way out to discard the whole theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 02:51 PM
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We might differ on some things and agree on others, but you're a good conversationalist. I'm off to bed, have a good night.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 05:59 AM
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Thanks. I read some follow-ups above too and I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 05:46 AM
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Not hateful. Also acting independently from Rollo. Twitter is just a mob; whole platform is trash. uhhh it's not "barely" covered, or very revealing though and sure it's not professional linkedin headshot status, but it's not enough to be garnering more than "oh she looks really pretty!" kind of thoughts imo. i think posts like that are kind of on the modest but alluring side?? i mean.. We're looking at different pictures, haha. The one you linked is not sexual. It's a phenomenal pic. I was comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 05:12 AM
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mmmm did you not see the tweet she linked and the replies under it? i mean it wasn't like massive amounts of hate, it was just a few replies, but it doesn't make sense. the pictures were just regular and pretty, not suggestive or even really sexualized. i'm confused. but you're very correct, more context would give a better full picture. Can you just quote it if you see hate? There's a couple comments about a cat or something? I don't see hateful comments. yes, lingerie is definitely different f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 04:02 AM
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He talks in hyperbole to make his points. There's a bit of delusion there. I don't agree with AWALT; there's variability across all people and personalities. This is scientificly proven. Even the most robust psychoanalytical tools have a predictability of around 70%. TRP is still very useful if you exchange "all" for "most."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 03:40 AM
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I don’t think about it anymore as I’m invested in my projects and it comes knocking quite frequently nowadays. When I was needy for romance I would always get rejected. This is Red Pill theory 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 03:36 AM
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i mean i know that's part of posting publicly on the Internet, but just because you posted a picture showing.. shoulders... and kind of the outline of your butt (??? like fully clothed and everything)... i don't understand shaming anyone's clothing choices, but that imo is not far enough from conservative for people to even be commenting on it like that. We don't know what the "shaming" actually was because OP reported the tweet and it's deleted. What if there's another side to this? Perhaps OP …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 03:34 AM
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I may be wrong about the information presented by red pill, but from the things I read, it was a common theme to see people talking about women as if we are a separate species from men There's no question that men and women think and behave differently. It's the case biologically and socially. Men and women often have different fears and goals as well. The more that people think men and women are the same the further apart they will be. Men and women are very different, but they are a compliment…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 03:10 AM
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The tweet is legitimate; verified. The real reason that this community is terrifying is because it encourages mass groups of people to obsess and hate young women TRP certainly does not teach men to hate women. The whole point is to become attractive to women while staying true to your goals. To think that you must go about hurting women first, because if you don’t, women will hurt you TRP does not tell you to hurt women. It explains the rules of the game, teaches skills, and teaches a mindset. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 02:47 AM
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You know you're free to leave, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 02:01 AM
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Men certainly date educated women—that's a plus and more women are being educated than men (university enrollment).... or maybe not educated if women are studying in the humanities while men study in STEM. Having a job is great. Being a "career" woman is usually a negative depending how you define it. Remember, being a career woman is different than being a woman who has a job. If her career is placed above all else in life that's a negative. Problems arise with career women: Overvalues herself …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 12:56 PM
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What does that lead to?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 10:41 PM
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There is a lot of people posting here talking about the average man/woman, or the majority of men/women. But when you are actually looking for a relationship - none of that matters, only the individual really does. That's cute, but looking for an "individual" in a sea of a million people is a shit dating strategy. People have preferences, preferences drive behavior, behavior establishes options. Understand the market to make yourself more desirable, by changing your behavior to create more optio…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 05:53 PM
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IMO intelligence is more attractive than career drive but they often go hand in hand. The most attractive part about career driven women is that it reduces financial risk for the man. The negative is that it might inflate a women's perception of her SMV and results in her being unhappy. I see this see in the 6 figure women working corporate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 05:39 PM
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If you want to achieve better results in anything in life you need to measure them. People who figure out their own SMV and how others' SMVs are valued in the SMP have an opportunity to reconstruct their world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 09:47 PM
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Value as human =/= Value on SMP
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 09:38 PM
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The "ugly" girl who gets fit will still get a lot of guys. Forgetting how many desperate low SVM guys there are?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 09:33 PM
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Rich is a burn victim from childhood (not shaming) who was rejected by women throughout his whole teenager years. In his 20s he started going to the gym and working on his career. He claims to have overcome his insecurities from childhood. I respect him for sharing his story, but I don't think he's healed from his past trauma. You realize his whole persona is seeking revenge on women for how he was treated when he was young and later getting screwed in a divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 01:12 PM
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That Donovan guy is an idiot— I looked him up. I think I've seen him before... he was on the FreshNFit podcast being a jackass interrupting everyone and the chat was tearing him a new one. Isn't adoption a little different? Legally he's the Dad then. Does he have sole custody? How does Rollo not practice what he preaches? And who do you consider his "associates"? You said you'd offer video evidence from Rich. After his divorce, how many single mothers did he date? I know he dated one for a long …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 01:24 AM
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That's really good! The most successful guys can smash about 20% of the women they cold approach. Most men is more like 1% lol. 10% would be from a guy who's been practicing game awhile or is just naturally good looking. People fail to realize that rejection is all part of the process no matter who you are. I would never consider getting phone numbers successful... I've seen an attractive dude get #s from 90% of his approaches. I don't know stats for a callback.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 11:08 PM
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Needing those 1% stories Don't leave us hangin
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 10:46 PM
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Props, my dude. What are your success rates with cold approaches?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 10:44 PM
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27 is very high when looking at distributions. It only doesn't seem high to other promiscuous people. I'm a bit lazy to pull up the source, spare me, but the average N count is around 7 and <5% of people have N counts of 27+
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 10:38 PM
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Zero. Their content is freely available. And I don't know who that Donovan guy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 09:24 PM
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Donovan Sharpe: Despises single mothers and says a man should never raise another mans child (adopted his niece because her mother has drug problems) Adopting your niece (family) is not even in the same realm of providing for a single mother (stranger`s) children. Do I really have to explain this one? Rollo Tomassi: his wife was not as fertile as she once was, and in my personal opinion she’s not very physically attractive) Claims to have had a lot of success with women back when he was younger …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 08:39 PM
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Nobody said anything about sex. What are you reading LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 08:12 PM
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Women rate 80% of men as worse than medium attractiveness while men rate 50% of women as worse than medium attractiveness. https://web.archive.org/web/20091121080804/http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/2009/11/17/your-looks-and-online-dating/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 02:38 PM
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I try not to make assumptions. It sometimes happens. The thing is, the theories apply most of the time, but not all. So I rather just observe and let things play out. I think one area where the theories fall short are on the traits of a man that women find attractive besides physical attractiveness and money. IRL a lot can be said here and is unaccounted for.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 02:08 PM
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I do, however, consider every woman over 18 to be a whore. I'm genuinely surprised that you just called your own mother a whore. She didn't deserve that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 01:58 PM
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That's a bunch of pure bullshit. It would be laughable if it wasn't so disgusting. You make a thorough, well-reasoned argument, lauded by the most sophisticated. You're probably getting rejected because you're a misogynistic, lame, and creepy. And you project very severe insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 03:21 AM
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Maybe because a woman's worth has nothing to do with how well they conform to what men want? You're confusing their value as a person with their value on the SMP. A 45-year-old woman can derive plenty of value from being a good mother, wife, aunt, sister, daughter, volunteer, coworker, boss, and community member. Perhaps her self-worth is high. But her value on the SMP is low and is determined by the people she wishes to attract: men. All of this is also true for men, but at least men work on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 03:15 AM
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25F and 35M still fine. Both are long out of school, working, and wondering what's next. (10 year) 23F, 30m still fine. (7 year)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 04:10 PM
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I don’t work a career to impress a man. I work a career because it’s what I value, I’m in an amazing industry, and I’m proud of what we do. My father, while we aren’t close, was a prolific businessman and always instilled in me to work hard and never have to rely on a man financially (except for him). And this is what I would instill in my daughter, too. I’ve always wanted to be the breadwinner, Yeah but why? and would you actually step into the breadwinner role? The women I know who have higher…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 03:26 PM
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Most of the time yes. If a woman is attractive and a high-earner be very careful. 95% of the time she's also riding up the crazy scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 03:00 PM
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I’m not great at formatting on Reddit On PC press the " · · · " on the bottom bar, then press "" to quote. On mobile begin sentence with > to quote. After that I went to go to therapy because I realized that Therapy is great. I'm glad you developed the courage to go! I got a large pay raise and managed to secure myself a position that’s very rare for women to have in my field Low priority for men. There's more value derived in using that money to improve yourself in ways that men care about. For…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 02:43 PM
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Very typical story. FDS is for hurt women who inevitably become man-haters. as I read I began to realize that my own habits, lack of self esteem, and desperation was keeping me in a relationship where I ultimately was not happy What did you do to improve yourself, as a result of FDS? Do I agree with the more extreme sides of things/opinions? Not particularly I actually didn’t pick a “HVM” by the subs standards Sounds like you didn't buy-in to FDS then. FDS helped me, personally, a lot. To a poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 02:10 PM
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Same story there always. Average user was hurt by a guy and seeks out FDS to empower herself. Joins the "rah, rah" group of other hurt women to become a self-centered man-hater. Ultimate goal is finding a simp with money who they can manipulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 01:49 PM
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My favorite part about FDS is how they have no clue what a high-value woman is. Their posts about being a high-value woman are all about being self-centered and have nothing to do with what men desire. In contrast, TRP identifies in detail what construes a HVM based on what women desire. Then the loudest message in all of TRP is to improve yourself to become a HVM.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 01:43 PM
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The whole HVM and LVM is such a Low IQ way of categorizing people, HUMAN BEINGS I might add. Intelligent and unique creatures with a whole story behind their life with unique experiences. Value as a person as value on the dating market are different things. Develop self-worth from within, but your value on the SMP is determined by others. What determines HV/LV are the collection of most desirable traits for most people. This is just how life works.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 01:38 PM
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How nice of you to completely avoid the rest of my post? I don't even know how to respond when you think that using multiple forms and birth control vs. no birth control methods at all are the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 09:23 PM
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See here And here: If a woman is smart about her sexual behavior there are enough birth control methods to make the chances of pregnancy near 0. Combining methods... your chances of pregnancy would be something like 1 in 1000 or 1 in 10000 and it's not an issue for a few sexual encounters. I'd say there's a problem if a woman is fucking hundreds of times..... and btw even then the chances are low. I've had sex about 1,000 times in my life only using condoms and conception never occurred. Accordi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 06:41 PM
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The use of birth control for the woman and men makes pregnancy avoidable. In order for all of your examples above to work, a man had to cum in her while she was ovulating. Semen cannot pass through a condom- the small percentage of condom ineffectiveness come from user error or breakage. When you combine two methods of 99.5%+ effectiveness you will not get pregnant. If you are the exception who cannot use the pill or an IUD then you can have sex only with a condom and while tracking your cycle s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 05:56 PM
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Again, I was never talking about that point, you're changing and/or introducing a different point. I did address, and I can repeat: It depends on the woman More benefits for men, less for women The ROI on casual sex tends to be low for women, which is why most women avoid it. Although, whether it's worth it or not depends on the male partner. With the right partner it can be very worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 03:14 PM
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I don't care about internet points. It's the fact that you're trying to silence me on a debate sub. I was never arguing about costs and benefits for women engaging in casual sex. The situation is different for every woman. Overall, casual sex is riskier for women than men for other reasons. My point was, if a woman is smart about her sexual behavior there are enough birth control methods to make the chances of pregnancy near 0. Combining methods... your chances of pregnancy would be something li…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 02:58 PM
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