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| 30 | Object Cause of Desire (5 Minute Topic) | Fundamentals | LikeCaprice | /r/seduction | 22/05/20 09:57 PM |
| 8 | OPENER — Do You Know All the Oceans? (Oceans Opener) | LikeCaprice | /r/seduction | 01/05/19 01:28 PM |
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| 5 | How to seduce a narcissistic girl?^this /u/aym4ne you want to stay away from narcissists. | /r/seduction | 25/05/20 12:15 AM |
| 0 | Mental Strength Training - Rejecting WomenI misread that about point 1, you're right. Thanks for catching me there. I'll edit. | /r/seduction | 24/05/20 08:52 PM |
| 6 | Mental Strength Training - Rejecting WomenCounter argument: If someone is inviting you to do things their friends would usually do, this is a good sign. You should, as a member of this board, have a good idea of when someone is interested in you and have the ability to build interest. Psychologically, women are attracted to men who can do things with them the typical man won't. I.e., be the exception to the rule. Rejection is important -- from a boundaries perspective. Boundaries are a whole other coconut, though, so I won't get into th… | /r/seduction | 24/05/20 04:20 PM |
| 1 | Object Cause of Desire (5 Minute Topic)I recommend watching the Slavoj Zizek video in the sources, then. That should give you a clearer idea of how this manifests in everyday life. And thanks! | /r/seduction | 23/05/20 12:08 PM |
| 2 | For you, who's the most effective "seducer" from the book "The Art of Seduction"?How are you qualifying "best?" I need to disclose some bias: personally, I think Greene's literature is useless. That being said, the point of the book was to learn to use all the archetypes, as needed, depending on the situation. The Rake is probably the most useful for opening sets, so that's probably your answer. According to Greene, all the other archetypes are essential -- they're basically just representative of different phases of the game. Now, I tend to also think AoS is too rigid and j… | /r/seduction | 22/05/20 11:36 PM |
| 1 | I need advice on a girl (please help)Carpe diem. Text her something flirty and fun. | /r/seduction | 22/05/20 10:12 PM |
| 4 | Having trouble understanding how to actually seduce via conversation.^That's a good post to read /u/Volteos. Also, it sounds like you need more practice with opening and bridging conversations. Having an opener that turns into a conversation is key. Like an opinion opener, or something. It's important to be interested and curious about many things, too. Natural curiosity will get you everywhere. I recommend getting a copy of Rules of the Game by Neil Strauss and reading the first several challenges to get an idea of how Neil (who is a master interviewer for Rolli… | /r/seduction | 20/05/20 07:27 PM |
| 5 | Why do people stay this subreddit if they hate seduction advice so much? Your "just be your best self" advice is just pure crap.It's not about being yourself. It's about being your best self. | /r/seduction | 20/05/20 06:52 PM |
| 3 | How to escalate touch/kiss on a date [17M]Depends on how you say it. Depends on body language. I dare you to try it. | /r/seduction | 30/07/19 03:29 PM |
| 2 | Interaction with girl starting to stall, need helpThat's literally the only reason I tapped on this thread. | /r/seduction | 30/07/19 01:52 PM |
| 1 | Making up a job title when meeting women, any ideas?Teasingly: "You know how doctors save lives? Yeah, none of that would be possible without me. I make that happen." Or similar. Maybe make up a game where she has to win to know what you do. Basically anything other than "I am an X." I work in film and marketing, so I say: "I make people famous. Do you want to be famous?" | /r/seduction | 30/07/19 01:51 PM |
| 1 | How do you guys sexualize the conversation?That's the one! Rules is a little different than people think. It's definitely a self development book. It's centered around attraction, and the root of attraction is how we perceive, present, and feel about ourselves. | /r/seduction | 30/07/19 01:42 PM |
| 1 | How do you guys sexualize the conversation?You got it. | /r/seduction | 30/07/19 01:18 PM |
| 2 | How do you guys sexualize the conversation?All good. I suggest Rules of the Game for jump starting your seduction skills. That's my baseline for technique. By rewarding, I mean doing the opposite of teasing. Like whatever you tease them for, leave the door open for them to "improve" or "make it up to you" etc etc. In a recent convo, I offered to hire my date. I made her my Watson, and I pretended we were on a mystery a la Sherlock Holmes. Jokingly, I pretended everything she said was wrong, but have her little lessons. When she caught on… | /r/seduction | 30/07/19 01:09 PM |
| 0 | Best way to open / find fun groups?Do you know how to read a room? My first inclination is to suggest you form your own "fun group." Second, you can tell when people are having fun. And you can tell when they'd get along with you — just look for groups behaving like you do when you're at maximum fun. Hell, approach a group of women! Make THEM your fun group. Don't play game with them, turn them into your friends. Finally, you are 19. You are going to feel like an imposter for a while. I'm sorry about that. Read some books on self… | /r/seduction | 30/07/19 12:56 PM |
| 5 | How do you guys sexualize the conversation?It can't be straight roasting. You have to make sure they're enjoying it. It's not roasting, per se. It's teasing. And you want them to either reciprocate or at least play along. And you have to reward them for playing along. This is a key part of flirting — making a game out of it, so at the end she "wins" you. This conveys your personality and how fun you are. Fun and flirty makes things sexual very easily. | /r/seduction | 30/07/19 12:52 PM |
| 1 | Just a thank youWhere's their parent? Who let them in here? | /r/seduction | 30/07/19 12:49 PM |
| 2 | How to escalate touch/kiss on a date [17M]It never hurts to ask. But ask in sequence of escalation, don't just ask for a kiss! "Do you want to hold my hand?" you can be a little coy or playful here to lighten it. If she likes you, it's a yes. I like asking them if THEY want to do something to me. It makes it more fun. You can use it as a reward for them in a flirty way. "Do you want to kiss me?" I'm a firm believer in consent. It's mandatory. So I ask, or I make them do it to me with push/pull. | /r/seduction | 30/07/19 10:59 AM |
| 2 | How to escalate touch/kiss on a date [17M]The arm in arm move is classic. Then you can move to hand around the waist. | /r/seduction | 30/07/19 10:55 AM |
| 1 | I’m 16 and I notice a lot of attractive women at the gym and in general but most of the time they are older like 17-20+.... so I approach and try to flirt and stuff or is it not worth it since they are older and will almost definitely not be interestedMaybe I'm an outlier here, but I never approach in the gym. Heart rates are high, people are distracted, etc. Seems like if it went wrong you might need a new gym. I fucking love my gym. Not risking it. | /r/seduction | 30/07/19 10:52 AM |
| 5 | Girl is interested but scared of datingHang out, don't call it a date, let the chemistry happen, and take care of her every step of the way. Do everything with consent and just be so good she can't not date you. | /r/seduction | 15/06/19 07:43 AM |
| 1 | OPENER — Do You Know All the Oceans? (Oceans Opener)Good point re: Time Constraints. I expect everyone to take this opener and do what they want with it. It's in script format for demonstration - I don't actually use a script. No one should. | /r/seduction | 02/05/19 01:02 AM |
| 1 | OPENER — Do You Know All the Oceans? (Oceans Opener)I don't understand your point. I'm familiar with MM. | /r/seduction | 02/05/19 01:01 AM |
| 1 | OPENER — Do You Know All the Oceans? (Oceans Opener)This is in the Mystery Method? I thought I came up with it! | /r/seduction | 02/05/19 12:37 AM |
| 2 | (18M) How should I develop my ability to make people laugh as well as charisma?Tbh I've never seen a PUA video that was great. But then again, I prefer reading ¯_(ツ)_/¯. I have a copy I can give you. Slide in those DMs, bro. And my position on PUAs is this - I don't listen to anyone unless 3 other well respected PUAs recommend them. As such, I typically only follow Love Systems and the OG PUAs written about in The Game. The city I live in is barren of pickup artists as far as I can tell, so I'm also alone and only have online and written resources. Rules of the Game is the… | /r/seduction | 01/05/19 07:09 PM |
| 2 | Approaching a girl with her parents around?(lol)Same. 👊 | /r/seduction | 01/05/19 06:38 PM |
| 1 | Approaching a girl with her parents around?(lol)Lol. If someone has a conservative family, I don't think anything would work. You'd maybe get points for trying tho. | /r/seduction | 01/05/19 06:25 PM |
| 3 | Approaching a girl with her parents around?(lol)Heck yeah, my dude. I met her entire family and had a great time. Fun fact: if her mom likes you, she'll be the best wing ever. The key is not being overtly flirtatious. End it before you'd move into anything intense, get her info, and set up the first real date. I bet she'll tell you, on the date, about how much her parents like you. | /r/seduction | 01/05/19 05:59 PM |
| 1 | OPENER — Do You Know All the Oceans? (Oceans Opener)I appreciate the extra commentary!! If it backfires, I'll be very sure to share that. And yeah, I def agree on weeds. | /r/seduction | 01/05/19 05:39 PM |
| 2 | OPENER — Do You Know All the Oceans? (Oceans Opener)Thanks for the input. | /r/seduction | 01/05/19 05:34 PM |
| 2 | OPENER — Do You Know All the Oceans? (Oceans Opener)Hmmm. Do you think the way I worded this makes people seem dumb? I more want to show off how dumb it is that we can't remember the last Ocean. It's a phenomenon. | /r/seduction | 01/05/19 05:33 PM |
| 1 | OPENER — Do You Know All the Oceans? (Oceans Opener)Hahaha | /r/seduction | 01/05/19 05:31 PM |
| 1 | (18M) How should I develop my ability to make people laugh as well as charisma?I always recommend Rules of the Game by Neil Strauss for PUA work. It's the single most effective book there is. It works on its own. | /r/seduction | 01/05/19 03:07 PM |
| 1 | Approaching a girl with her parents around?(lol)Have a variety of openers prepared. One of my favorites is "Do you know the Oceans?" people think they do, but they can only name 4/5 and then it gets fun from there. What are the topics that interest you? Prepare openers based on those. You will appear interesting to women for your variety of interests and you will have a lot of new material. If you're on a trip, you can feign asking for help. You can be funny by asking for directions to a place you're already next to (careful, don't make it se… | /r/seduction | 01/05/19 12:42 PM |
| 2 | (18M) How should I develop my ability to make people laugh as well as charisma?Not saying comedy is a sexy career. The comedy skill, though, uses and teaches so many other skills a PUA needs. Also, @OP did ask specifically to make people laugh. | /r/seduction | 01/05/19 04:12 AM |
| 3 | Approaching a girl with her parents around?(lol)Okay, so I picked someone up once while she was with her parents. It was after a show. The venue the show was at had a karoke night the same evening, so I went up to the family and asked what song I should sing. I asked them if I could pull off Brittany Spears. This resulted in the target staying to watch me sing (since she was 21) and her parents gave us some space for a sec. My takeaways: Keep the opener fun for everyone, and definitely off the topic of love and romance Connect with the targ… | /r/seduction | 01/05/19 03:47 AM |
| 1 | Running night game with friends aroundu/lolopolo999, yep yep. u/zincSF is so right. Opening groups is usually easier than singles or doubles anyway. Do what you would do if you wanted to make friends with strangers you weren't attracted to - in group settings, you have to win the group before you can win the target. Most openers work on groups as long as you make a point to involve them. Great sources for opening groups: Rules of the Game Other posts in this sub PUA forums | /r/seduction | 01/05/19 02:42 AM |
| 3 | (18M) How should I develop my ability to make people laugh as well as charisma?There are some great resources on becoming more charismatic. You can read books like How to Win Friends and Influence People Start doing standup comedy. Learning how to perform, what makes people engaged, and how people interact, are all useful in seduction Small talk is lame. Have you noticed how all the great PUAs use openers that cut straight to conversations on topics? | /r/seduction | 01/05/19 02:37 AM |
| 1 | I failed a shittest.What's the specific outcome you're going for with that tactic? What reaction do you want? | /r/seduction | 21/02/19 08:14 PM |
| 1 | I failed a shittest.Why? | /r/seduction | 21/02/19 03:03 PM |
| 2 | How To Pull Girls In Clubs (Girls WANT You To Seed The Pull)What part of this post do you think is tricking someone into sex? I'm genuinely curious, and your opinion has value to me. Maybe u/dailymanup was not clear enough in his post, or assumed the readers knew his intent. I don't know. All I know is I have a different takeaway, and your takeaway will be very good to hear! | /r/seduction | 21/02/19 03:48 AM |
| 2 | Light flirting and touching at public events, tricks and suggestions?I'm interested to see what the community has to say about this. The Mystery Method is designed for public settings, though new info I'd always welcom! | /r/seduction | 20/02/19 01:20 AM |
| 1 | How important is presence to women?I see OP is new (so am I, to be fair). You need to read a book or watch some videos on the basics. This question is answered so so so many times over in The Game. | /r/seduction | 19/02/19 02:31 PM |
| 1 | How important is presence to women?OP presence is literally everything. Unless you're a billionaire and walk around handing cash to women for love. Presence is the whole essence of attraction. It is how you look, what you say, how you move, and so on. What are you really trying to ask? | /r/seduction | 19/02/19 02:30 PM |
| 1 | How important is presence to women?Haha! I don't know if this was meant as a joke or not, but I love it. | /r/seduction | 19/02/19 02:28 PM |
| 1 | How important is height in Seduction. Discuss.I mean FFS if even Tyler Durden ever got one woman, you can, too. | /r/seduction | 19/02/19 02:26 PM |
| 1 | How important is height in Seduction. Discuss.OP sounds like your height isn't the issue. If you have approached every type of woman, it's not your looks. Unless you're a literal goblin, and somehow I doubt that. Build detailed FRs on your next approaches so the community can help and evaluate. Also, pick up a book like Rules of the Game or other self-help books to evaluate and improve your game. I have plenty of friends and acquainces your height, of many genders and levels of attractiveness, who get some. | /r/seduction | 19/02/19 02:24 PM |
| 1 | What to do when she ignores messages?Be specific please. Also, seems like this should be in r/seddit. | /r/seduction | 19/02/19 02:12 PM |
| 1 | Pulling Back to Increase InterestWomen don't typically like to move for a date irl so fast. They like getting to know someone more over a few days. It's about safety. What would you think about your texts if you were in her position? Do you sound like someone who is just moving for dates as a strategy to hook up? Who are you to her beyond your desire to get to know her? | /r/seduction | 19/02/19 02:10 PM |
| 2 | [FR] Once again I had what I thought to be a great interaction, or so I thought...First - Good job talking to her. Sounds like you played a good game and youbweree definitely smooth and attractive. Don't doubt yourself Remember to shift your subnormalities and look at the clues. You number closed. Got a date. And she initiated the second time. And she texted back. Second - The FB joke was too much. Stalking on FB is something women deal with a LOT. You have to be careful. Third, and most importantly - This is still recoverable!! I recommend waiting A FEW DAYS and texting her … | /r/seduction | 19/02/19 02:01 PM |
| 2 | Straight male attraction to female bodyYou're really asking "what do you like about boobs?" which is totally subjective. I can tell you all about what I like about boobs and go on and on until I'd need to excuse myself to reallocate my blood flow. But why do straight men like boobs? It's in our nature. I'm not a scientist, so I can't answer that and I won't try to. That's like asking why someone likes pizza. "Because it tastes good." Well why? For the record, I don't like pizza. | /r/seduction | 19/02/19 01:50 PM |
| 1 | I failed a shittest.Hahaha | /r/seduction | 19/02/19 11:05 AM |
| 1 | I failed a shittest.Ohhhh. That makes a lot of sense. I think it definitely can be an interest test. I also think it can be used, especially in your case, as an opener for more flattery. | /r/seduction | 19/02/19 04:36 AM |
| 1 | I failed a shittest.Will you share more? The context matters and I want to hear about your success! | /r/seduction | 19/02/19 04:30 AM |
| 2 | I failed a shittest.To women, all females who identify as such are "women" over the age of 17. That may not work. In my experience, it only reinforces the big sister response. "You're so cute!" and so on. | /r/seduction | 19/02/19 04:26 AM |
| 15 | I failed a shittest.I really hate to be that guy - it's "wouldn't have." | /r/seduction | 19/02/19 04:25 AM |
| 28 | I failed a shittest.You didn't fail a shit test IMHO. Younger men people are easy to spot, and youth isn't attractive to women like it is to men. When someone is pushing 30, they want to know their sexual partner can fulfill them, run with kinks, and has experience. When you look - and admit to being - 19, that triggers a "big sister" response. You're like Bambi to them. If you want to dodge this in the future, make a fun game of it. Play some cat and mouse. Be coy. "How old do you think I am?" You can also use thi… | /r/seduction | 19/02/19 04:24 AM |
| 1 | What to do if I'm developing a crush for a girl I just met?That's tough. I fall for girls quickly and often, too. Keep your chill. Don't afc it up. A skillful way to go about things is to constantly check in with yourself. Ask yourself if the things you're doing/saying are helpful to her. As in, what value do you add? That's what this is all about, right? Being valuable and attractive. So keep your head on straight, do some cognitive dissonance exercises, pay attention to the signals she's giving out, and play your best game. | /r/seduction | 18/02/19 02:41 PM |
| 1 | Shower thought: “I made a mistake of subscribing to r/relationships when I first met a girl that I liked. If I had subscribed r/seduction that day, my story would have happy ending”Now I need to see what's up. | /r/seduction | 18/02/19 02:09 PM |
| 1 | Shower thought: “I made a mistake of subscribing to r/relationships when I first met a girl that I liked. If I had subscribed r/seduction that day, my story would have happy ending”Oh dang. looks in mirror Oh dang. | /r/seduction | 18/02/19 02:08 PM |
| 3 | Anyone else tired of picking up/gaming chicks?Let me see! - How to Win Friends and Influence People, Dale Carnegie - The Six Pillars of Self Esteem, Nathaniel Branden - This is Water, by David Foster Wallace - Dare Greatly, Brene Brown - Tribe of Mentors, collected by Tim Ferriss - The Bhagavad Gita (version "As it is") - Hero with a Thousand Faces, Joseph Campbell - Candide, Voltaire There are more, I'll share if I recall :) | /r/seduction | 18/02/19 02:04 PM |
| 3 | Anyone else tired of picking up/gaming chicks?I think I worship kindness. I haven't really thought about it much in the past few months. Buddhist practices, like meditation, serve a pretty good way to take my mind off the obsessive things I used to, well, obsess over. On some level, I def. still worship self improvement. Yet, instead of thinking of being good enough, I just focus on being better every day and I've learned that improvement is a life-long journey and I'll literally die doing it. It would be hard to unpack a real answer to you… | /r/seduction | 18/02/19 02:34 AM |
| 3 | Anyone else tired of picking up/gaming chicks?Thank you, @pacg! The above is from This is Water, a commencement speech DFW gave on the subject of open mindedness and preparing for the real world. Find a transcript and the audio recording here: https://fs.blog/2012/04/david-foster-wallace-this-is-water/ I recommend listening to DFW give the speech himself. It's something to be heard. I personally listen to this fairly regularly. | /r/seduction | 18/02/19 02:02 AM |
| 3 | Anyone else tired of picking up/gaming chicks?To quote a favorite author: "in the day-to-day trenches of adult life, there is actually no such thing as atheism. There is no such thing as not worshipping. Everybody worships. The only choice we get is what to worship. And the compelling reason for maybe choosing some sort of god or spiritual-type thing to worship–be it JC or Allah, be it YHWH or the Wiccan Mother Goddess, or the Four Noble Truths, or some inviolable set of ethical principles–is that pretty much anything else you worship will … | /r/seduction | 18/02/19 01:48 AM |
| 2 | Anyone else tired of picking up/gaming chicks?It's funny, I never intended to get into the motivation business, yet here I am. I started by simply sharing what worked for me with friends, then slowly I became known for helping people. Jump ahead a few years and I can get fairly good speaking engagements and hits on my IG for inspiration. It just happens sometimes. Although I ***Refuse*** to call myself a motivational speaker. It sounds like a dirty word. I'm just a guy sharing what worked for me. Note: I also work in the fitness and entrepr… | /r/seduction | 18/02/19 01:37 AM |
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