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| 4 | How does not wanting to date a rape victim make someone an asshole?The Cinnabon! Oh god, The Cinnabon! I lost my innocence that day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 06:45 PM |
| 6 | Women: Would you ever pay for sex?Assuming I wasn't in a committed, monogamous relationship, then hell yes I would. My darkest fantasies are kinda elaborate. That sort of dungeon equipment can't be cheap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 06:34 PM |
| 4 | How does not wanting to date a rape victim make someone an asshole?And here, we see the superior arguing skills of the TRPer; I am in awe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 06:19 PM |
| 1 | How does not wanting to date a rape victim make someone an asshole?And I challenge you to find a single person on this entire thread who thinks that you are obligated to date rape victims. Just a heads up, there aren't any. Nobody here thinks that you owe your affections to anyone. But to refer to people in any context as "damaged goods" is dehumanizing. Even saying, "They're damaged goods as far as I am concerned," is dehumanizing. They aren't "damaged goods," they are "people you don't want to date." To refer to "people you don't want to date" as "damaged goo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 06:18 PM |
| 6 | How does not wanting to date a rape victim make someone an asshole?"Women are poops you can't clean, lol. Amiright? High five bro. High five." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 06:11 PM |
| 3 | How does not wanting to date a rape victim make someone an asshole?Seriously, who teases rape victims about their experiences on the internet for fun? Dude needs to get himself a more productive, more fulfilling hobby. Edit: Oh no, I got a downvote in a downvote free sub! Did I hurt someone's poor feelz? :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 06:10 PM |
| 3 | How does not wanting to date a rape victim make someone an asshole?Only if those same virgins spend inordinate amounts of time on the internet lying about being sex gods; then yeah, I'm gonna make fun of them for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 06:05 PM |
| 2 | How does not wanting to date a rape victim make someone an asshole?BURN! Seriously, though, I am saving this for future reference. That was so beautiful. I didn't know insults could count as art until I read this comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 06:04 PM |
| 2 | How does not wanting to date a rape victim make someone an asshole?You are really dragging this out, aren't you? No, you aren't obligated to attend her therapy sessions, or talk with her psychiatrist, or remind her to take her meds, just treat her with respect--fully recognizing that she is not the things that have happened to her, but a fully autonomous agent--and you're fine in my book. That's all. Treat people with respect. Seriously, how hard is that? Just don't be a dick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 06:00 PM |
| 1 | How does not wanting to date a rape victim make someone an asshole?I don't think anyone here wants to argue that you're obligated to date rape victims or the physically/mentally handicapped. But yes, referring to people with disabilities as "damaged goods" is just as disgusting and dehumanizing as referring to rape victims as "damaged goods." It's not that complicated. Just because you, personally, don't find someone worth dating doesn't mean that have no worth what-so-ever. Are you seriously so egocentric that you think a person's value is dependent on whether… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 05:55 PM |
| 2 | How does not wanting to date a rape victim make someone an asshole?No, but I wouldn't automatically label him a menace to society unless he'd acted upon his pedophilia and harmed someone; the fact that he's getting treatment is a good sign that he is aware he needs help, is willing to seek it, and is therefore able to deal with it in a healthy manner. For the thousandth time, I don't think anyone is obligated to date someone with major psychological issues, but it's inaccurate to argue that just because someone has had those issues, doesn't mean they can't over… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 05:45 PM |
| 1 | How does not wanting to date a rape victim make someone an asshole?I don't think you can really justify expanding your experiences with--what, four women total?--to every rape victim who has ever existed. Sure, the four women you described had serious issues (though, note that 2/4 you mentioned were actively getting treatment in order to aid in their recovery) and of course, you're not obligated to date those women if you feel that the emotional baggage isn't worth it. But like I said, to claim that literally every rape victim ever is damaged goods based on you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 04:39 AM |
| 2 | How does not wanting to date a rape victim make someone an asshole?The original thread implied we would know from the beginning. Yeah, which I think is a little weird, TBH. Rape victims don't usually go around with a tattoo on their foreheads. Hypotheticals can be fun and all, but I am honestly not sure how useful they are in this case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 03:36 AM |
| 1 | How does not wanting to date a rape victim make someone an asshole?Basically, why should a man or woman date a person who has emotional issues when there are plenty of normal people to date? That's my point, though; not all rape victims develop serious emotional issues and many that do eventually over come them. I'm not saying you should feel compelled to give rape victims a chance, just don't go making blanket statements like, "All rape victims are broken/damaged goods/whatever" and I think we're good. Can we, at least, agree on that? That, at the end of the d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 03:32 AM |
| 4 | How does not wanting to date a rape victim make someone an asshole?Was the rental car driving home alone at night, or did it have a chaperon? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 12:45 AM |
| 2 | How does not wanting to date a rape victim make someone an asshole?I'm not willing to take that risk. No one is arguing you should, only that it's unfair to look at all rape victims as if they are inherently damaged. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/16 12:35 AM |
| 1 | [discussion] are you happy with your life?Or have you never heard women exclaim, "Men are such pigs!" Yep, I have; those people are dick wads, too. Both men and women are capable of misogynistic/misandrist world views and I don't condone that sort of thing in either gender. BTW, just because other people do shitty things doesn't mean it's okay for you to do shitty things, too. Man up and take some responsibility for what you say and do. Shouting, "Well, Sara did it, too!" is the kind of excuse you hear out of a third grader. Sometimes, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/16 04:27 PM |
| 2 | [discussion] are you happy with your life?So, men just casually deny the agency of other people on the regular? That's just how "men talk"? IDK, I happen to know lots of men who, as a matter of principle, make sure to always treat their fellow human beings with respect. Men who don't use their "penis" and "locker room talk" as an excuse to dehumanize people. Painting all men as being as misogynistic as you are is actually a form of misandry. There are a lot of decent men out there, just because the people you choose to hang around with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/16 05:17 AM |
| 2 | [discussion] are you happy with your life?IDK, referring to women as "nothing other than a glorified excuse of a series of fuck holes" seems pretty fucked to me. :/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/16 05:07 AM |
| 3 | [discussion] are you happy with your life?True, hate and anger can be distinct, but in general, I've found that TRPers have a very strong hatred of women, which is used to fuel the anger they feel towards them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/16 04:31 AM |
| 3 | [discussion] are you happy with your life?Yeah, actually. Moderator /u/RedPillSchool recently wrote a post on this very issue called "Anger Isn't a Phase." I think it's pretty telling that the top mod and creator of the sub is endorsing hateful attitudes. Damn, being a red piller has got to be fucking exhausting. I feel for them, I really do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/16 02:00 AM |
| 1 | If girls don't want to be led, then why don't they ask guys out on dates???A theory that is contradicted by experimental evidence must be partially if not wholly false. Just so you know, your own personal anecdotes do not constitute "experimental evidence." Just sayin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/16 01:54 AM |
| 6 | If girls don't want to be led, then why don't they ask guys out on dates???Exactly. I am rarely hanging out at McDonald's and think, "Oh, what an attractive guy!" Pretty much every man I've ever crushed on I met in class, at work, or at a club event, meaning we have similar interests/ambitions. IDK, but randos have a lot less appeal--at least, for me--than men who I have some familiarity with and have demonstrated their compatibility with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/16 01:45 AM |
| 1 | If girls don't want to be led, then why don't they ask guys out on dates???DUN DUH DUN! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/16 01:27 AM |
| 1 | Male Feminists: a Life in BlueI'm jut saying, self-centered men aren't very good lovers. If you want to make a woman swoon, you have to be able to connect with her emotionally and empathize with her. Men who care only for themselves and lack interest in their partners can't pull that off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/15 12:59 AM |
| 1 | Male Feminists: a Life in BlueMostly we just need an atmosphere where manliness is encouraged so men don't grow up to be pussies. Sounds like you're not as interested in helping men to embrace themselves and pursue their goals--whatever they may be--and are a lot more interested in shaming and belittling men who don't fit into your rigid definition of 'manliness.' That doesn't come across as 'liberating men,' but much more a 'restricting men.' Which, TBH, is exactly what the patriarchy does. It puts restrictions on men and s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/15 12:36 AM |
| 1 | Male Feminists: a Life in BlueFeminists fight attempts to make rape laws gender neutral...they try to hide evidence of female-on-male rape and DV whenever they can. I'm not going to try and argue that each and every feminist out there takes men's issues as seriously as they should. That would be absurd and it would be incorrect. Every movement--including feminism--is going to include extremists. But to say that the feminist movement--by an large--is anti-men would be equally incorrect. The current federal definition of rape … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/15 08:44 PM |
| 1 | Male Feminists: a Life in BlueAnd the destruction of feminism--which has been in support of eliminating the draft, same sex marriage, and transgender rights--is going to save men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/15 07:41 PM |
| 1 | Male Feminists: a Life in BlueOh my god, I know you have to have written an argument style essay before. Even if you didn't go to college, everyone's pretty much required to write one in High School at some point, so I am pretty sure you're just being obtuse here. But sure, I'll point out exactly what statements of yours need supporting evidence to be taken seriously. Feminists fight attempts to make rape laws gender neutral. This. they try to hide evidence of female-on-male rape and DV whenever they can. And this. As soon a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/15 10:59 PM |
| 1 | Male Feminists: a Life in BlueYou're losing frame, friend. Who cares if some random idiotic feminist--who is probably fat, BTW--doesn't like your post? Pffft. Bitches gonna be bitches, amirite? If you engage, it shows weakness; it'll make her think you give a fuck. But you don't, cause you're a manly man! You've got way, way hotter bitches to fuck and some serious weights to lift. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/15 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Male Feminists: a Life in BlueYou didn't mention a single historical fact or link a single research paper to support any of the assertions you just made and, well, voicing an opinion is not the same thing as constructing an argument. I'm here to debate and hopefully in turn, learn something new, but I can't really do either here if you're not willing to post something a little more substantial. Once you're ready to supply cited sources, I'm more than willing to engage you. Though TBH, I am not entirely sure what else I can s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/15 10:43 PM |
| 1 | Male Feminists: a Life in BlueI thought so. ;) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/15 10:33 PM |
| 0 | Male Feminists: a Life in BlueThis narrative of oppression simply does not hold up to scrutiny for gender relations. What other oppressor group was supposed to sacrifice himself for the oppressed if some disaster struck? Did slaveholders had a rule in place where slaves were given first place on lifeboats? Wait a minute, wait a minute...are you trying to argue that not having the right to own property and not having the right to vote doesn't count as oppression as long as you get first dibs on a life boat? You're seriously t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/15 06:57 PM |
| 1 | Male Feminists: a Life in BlueLol, k. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/15 06:12 PM |
| 2 | Male Feminists: a Life in BlueI'm honestly not sure what to say here--I'm a little shocked by your lack of understanding--but I am going to give it a go anyway. What they were fighting for is not the point. It's how they did it, how they explained it. They blame men for everything, and frame everything as one-sided oppression of women. That's how oppression works, as in, that's literally the definition of oppression. Systemic oppression exists when the majority group and/or the group with majority power uses that power to pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/15 01:16 AM |
| 1 | Male Feminists: a Life in BlueYea, /r/feMRADebates it's called. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/15 12:32 AM |
| 1 | Male Feminists: a Life in BlueHaving deprived her of this first right as a citizen, the elective franchise, thereby leaving her without representation in the halls of legislation, he has oppressed her on all sides. So, it's 'man hate' to point out that women were forbidden from voting until 1920? He has made her, if married, in the eye of the law, civilly dead. Seriously now, you think it's 'man hate' to point out that marital rape wasn't illegal until the 1970's? Jesus H. Christ, I keep hearing over and over again that MRA'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/15 10:33 PM |
| 0 | Male Feminists: a Life in BlueCan you, like, cite an actual source or give me some quotes, cause from where I am standing, you don't really have any evidence to support your claims and are just parroting the grand generalizations of other anti-feminists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/15 10:17 PM |
| 0 | Male Feminists: a Life in BlueYou want more explicit... So, feminist men realize that it is creepy to treat women as mere prizes to be won, sex dispensers, and holes to cum in and you have a problem with that? What you've linked has nothing to do with men being ashamed for being men, but men becoming more aware of just how much the objectification of women is ingrained in our society. I think it's admirable that they've recognized systemic sexism for what it is and are working to extract themselves from that system. Instead … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/15 10:13 PM |
| 3 | Male Feminists: a Life in BlueIDK where you are getting the 'man hate' from? I hope you're not taking those 'I Drink Male Tears' t-shirts seriously? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/15 09:57 PM |
| 2 | Male Feminists: a Life in BlueJust because TRP is misogynistic, doesn't mean feminism isn't worse. IDK, I am pretty sure a subreddit that teaches men how to successfully rape women, declaring them to be nothing more than fuck holes, is worse than the movement which gave women the right to vote, purse professional careers, and have recourse in the event of sex-based discrimination, domestic violence, and rape. I never backtracked because I never claimed to be RP, and I've been in this sub for a while. I have a flair that says… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/15 08:25 PM |
| 0 | Male Feminists: a Life in BlueObviously, this poster is having self-esteem issues, but not once does he say anything along the lines of, "My male urges disgust me; I hate myself for being a man!" Yes, he's dealing with a lot of frustration and it seems to have turned to self-loathing, but not for the reasons you gave. How does it make you feel that a feminist sub for men is basically a support group for terminally depressed virgins? What does that tell you about your beloved feminism? It tells me that feminism is finally cre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/15 08:17 PM |
| 1 | Male Feminists: a Life in BlueIDK, man, when there's a pattern, I'm gonna follow it to its rational conclusion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/15 08:10 PM |
| 0 | Male Feminists: a Life in BlueI did, and nowhere in any of them do I see any feminist induced self-loathing. Not one of the posters mentions hating themselves for being men or having male urges. You're gonna have to point to the exact quote(s) you're talking about here, because I am telling you, they don't exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/15 07:38 PM |
| 2 | Male Feminists: a Life in BlueNo, but I'm not sure it's fair to come onto an RP vs. BP debate subreddit, defend the red pill ideology, then try and back track when someone calls you out on it by declaring, "Oh, but I'm not really redpill! I'm just anti-feminist!" If you were just anti-feminist, you wouldn't be here backing up TRPers and their misogynistic TRP ideology, but here we are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/15 07:31 PM |
| -1 | Male Feminists: a Life in BlueNone about these titles suggest that the men writing them hate themselves because they are men, so IDK what you're on about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/15 07:24 PM |
| 2 | Male Feminists: a Life in BlueThen why are you here? You do know there is a separate subreddit for Feminist/MRA debates, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/15 07:21 PM |
| 2 | Bloopers: What is your response to "yea but it works"?ud make a good lawyer Pffff | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/15 06:29 AM |
| 5 | Bloopers: What is your response to "yea but it works"?I have no such fetishes to kill either men or women and I think it's pretty irrational. Oh, my bad. You also don't kill women because that's not your fetish. Good to know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/15 04:44 AM |
| 7 | Bloopers: What is your response to "yea but it works"?I like how your reasons for not threatening to kill women is that they'll make annoying, screaming sounds during sex and you'll end up in jail. Goddamn. You guys are fucking hard core. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/15 04:23 AM |
| 5 | Bloopers: What is your response to "yea but it works"?One party is arguing on the basis of morality (mind you there's nothing wrong with that) and the other party really does NOT care about morality. Not giving a shit about other people and how your actions affect them (so long as you get your way) is the very definition of being a shitty human being. I do think that TRP exaggerates how well their sexual strategy works, but in some cases, does it work? Oh, absolutely. In a lot of cases, will it work? For sure. But the sacrifice you make when you de… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/15 04:15 AM |
| 2 | Why do people stereotype RedPillers as "fat unhygenic fedora-wearing neckbeards", when that is LITERALLY the opposite of what RedPill advocates?I mean, I can understand the confusion, but I don't think it's all that unusual for close friends to discuss their dating & sex life with each other. I mean, personally, I'm more for the whole blunt, "Dude, I'm just not interested; can we just be friends?" approach. But if it isn't unusual to discuss your dating life with friends, saying a simple, "Oh, wow, my date last night was so hot; a perfect six pack!" is a good way to clearly indicate that you're interested in someone else, but you're sti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/15 07:08 AM |
| 1 | What do you bring to the bedroom?Absolutely, a lot of people are bedroom-only when exploring their dominant and submissives sides and yes, you don't need a 24/7 D/s dynamic to add some kinky fun to the bedroom. My point is that being dominant is a skill that requires a knowledge base and practice. Being hot and well hung does not a bedroom dominant make. Even if you're not into edgy bedroom play, establishing a power dynamic--even just for sex--is a very psychological process, requiring a bit more build up, mind-fuckery, and ov… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/15 05:21 AM |
| 2 | What do you bring to the bedroom?It's like a whole new world, once you know the truth; I think I am even getting turned on a little. ;) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/15 07:56 PM |
| 2 | What do you bring to the bedroom?Are men the one's with the penis, or...? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/15 07:36 PM |
| 2 | What do you bring to the bedroom?BPers not understanding what RP is. It's just too deep for me, man. Too deep. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/15 07:28 PM |
| 1 | What do you bring to the bedroom?Dude, that's deep. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/15 06:55 PM |
| 3 | What do you bring to the bedroom?Bingo! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/15 06:54 PM |
| 9 | What do you bring to the bedroom?Okay, so disclaimer: Not all women want a dominant guy in bed. But for those of us who do? Dude, if you can't safely tie me into a pretzel Shibari style, wield a a single tail whip accurately, or work me up properly with a violet wand--if your 'dominant' skills are limited to screaming 'slut' and 'whore'--you're going to be a pretty boring dominant personality in the bedroom. Being a good dominant requires learned, practiced skill sets. If you think 'holding frame' is interesting enough to make … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/15 06:35 AM |
| 7 | Q4Womenpill: Have you ever purposefully led a guy on to get free lifts, gifts, meals and/or have an emotional tampon?Nope, nuh-uh. Not a once. From an ethical standpoint, I find that sort of behavior abhorrent. Hell, back when I was still dating, I preferred to split the bill precisely because I didn't want my date to feel taken advantage of if it didn't work out. Then, from a purely practical perspective, it's just not worth the hassle to spend time with someone you don't like, just for some food or a stuffed teddy, when you have a job and can buy your own stuffed teddy and have something leftover for Noodles… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/15 06:26 AM |
| 1 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?Yeah, I get the feeling you're being intentionally obtuse at this point. Either that, or you have trouble grasping the basic definition of consent and the kind of subtle distinctions I'm making here. But our conversation really helped me flesh out the basis for my beliefs, so thanks for that. Toodles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/15 03:24 PM |
| 1 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?I don't think you know what 'consent' means, either the legal definition or how it is used in in the field of ethics. If you did, I think you'd understand at this point why an incapacitated person--a child, a mentally retarded person, an intoxicated person--can't actually give consent. They can agree to have sex, but they cannot consent to have sex, because they lack the basic decision making abilities necessary to grasp the potential consequences of their actions and actually agree to those pot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/15 01:30 AM |
| 1 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?If they are capable of talking and expressing desires, that very clearly and automatically indicates an ability to consent. Are you serious? What about someone with severe mental retardation who can verbalize their physical desires (i.e. just because you're severely mentally retarded, doesn't mean you don't still get horny), does that 'automatically indicate an ability to consent'? I'm not sure you know how alcohol works. You don't have to be black out drunk to be severely impaired and lack the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/15 04:57 PM |
| 1 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?Oh, okay, I think I see the confusion... The reason you are accountable for driving drunk and yet, are not able to consent to sex under the influence is because (a) in the former case, the intoxicated person is the actor whereas in the second case, the intoxicated person is being acted upon and (b) being drunk and driving is wrong, while being drunk and having sex with a sober person is not wrong (since the sober individual has the capacity to consent). Allow me to give an example which I think … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/15 03:45 AM |
| 1 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?Seriously though - do current feminists view average men as human? or as a slave and scapegoat? Again, feminism is about achieving equal rights for women and men. Feminism is fighting for the legalization of same-sex marriage for both men and women, supporting trans men and women, attempting to get mandated maternity leave and paternity leave on the table, condemning stereotypes that force mainstream visions of femininity down young women's throats (i.e. barefoot, pregnant, & in the kitchen) and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/15 12:34 AM |
| 1 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?If people are responsible for their actions while drunk, and giving consent is an action (i.e. saying 'yes') then people should be responsible for giving consent while drunk. I still don't think you quite get the point I am trying to make. Absolutely, when you put yourself into a state of intoxication, fully aware of the risks beforehand, you need to be held accountable for your actions while under the influence. That includes being held accountable for drunk driving. Yet, at the same time, sobe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/15 12:15 AM |
| 1 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?Yeah, that's part of the feminist imperative, equal rights and responsibilities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/15 12:01 AM |
| 1 | Feminist learns about The Red Pill and Changes her Tune causing Dave Futrelle to whine about it: Does this confirm that TRP is starting to win the public war?Thanks for the breakdown, I have a lot to think about. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/15 11:00 PM |
| 1 | Feminist learns about The Red Pill and Changes her Tune causing Dave Futrelle to whine about it: Does this confirm that TRP is starting to win the public war?The links you gave me aren't loading for some reason. :/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/15 10:38 PM |
| 1 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?Eh, I get the feeling you are being obtuse on purpose here, but perhaps not, so let me explain. When you drink, you are making a decision to put yourself in an impaired state and you are making this decision while mentally capable. Being fully aware of the potential risks, you are responsible for putting security measures in place to prevent yourself from harming others while in that impaired state (i.e. giving your car keys to a friend and getting a DD before hitting the bar). If you fail to pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/15 10:30 PM |
| 1 | Feminist learns about The Red Pill and Changes her Tune causing Dave Futrelle to whine about it: Does this confirm that TRP is starting to win the public war?Thank you! Yes, that's it! I just looked at the Men's Rights Subreddit Drill Down from May 2014, and /r/TheRedPill is third on the list of overlapping users. There's also a decent amout of overlap with fat shaming subreddits like /r/fatlogic and /r/fatpeople hate. I'll put in a request for a more recent analysis, but like I said, lots of overlap between the different spheres of the manosphere and a number of not-so-great movements, though overlap with the Fat Shaming Movement was a bit of a surp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/15 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Feminist learns about The Red Pill and Changes her Tune causing Dave Futrelle to whine about it: Does this confirm that TRP is starting to win the public war?Isn't there a tool that let's you examine a subreddit's member base and see how active that member base is in other subreddits? I know /r/thebluepill took a look at /r/TheRedPill once and there was a HUGE overlap with stuff like r/mensrights, r/whiterights, /r/seduction and others. If I could just think of the name of the tool, I'd love to look at the analysis of r/mensrights. Any idea what it is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/15 09:52 PM |
| 1 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?I mean, at its core, feminism is about achieving equal rights and opportunities for men and women, there's just some debate on how that can best be accomplished. I don't really get how a political movement fighting for equality under the law counts as "male hostile," unless you feel threatened by the independence of women. Honestly, I think that's where much of the backlash against feminism comes from, from men who don't want to live in a world where they have to compete with women for jobs, off… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/15 09:43 PM |
| 1 | Feminist learns about The Red Pill and Changes her Tune causing Dave Futrelle to whine about it: Does this confirm that TRP is starting to win the public war?citation need No problem, I can provide that, take a look. I, personally, don't know much about the "hipster atheist uprising" myself, but facts are facts. There is a lot of overlap between the manosphere and the White Supremacist, Neo-Nazi, and Anti-Feminist movements, as I've already shown with a number of examples. Not sure what else to say, TBH. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/15 06:44 PM |
| 1 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?I identify as a sex positive feminist, so I'm not really on board with the whole "penetration=rape" thing, if that's what you're asking? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/15 06:24 PM |
| 1 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?True, the high road often isn't all that popular, because it requires sacrifices a large proportion of people would rather not make. What can I say? It is what it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/15 04:13 PM |
| 1 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?Dude that's...that's a pretty fucked up way to live a life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/15 06:13 AM |
| 1 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?I'd accept the possibility of being violated against my will just as women may be violated against their will, so long as the violation happens in a fairly vanilla fashion. In other words, "so long as it happens in a way that I would be comfortable with" and thus, once again, "It's cool if I do things to people that make them feel violated, but if someone crossed my boundaries and did anything to me that wasn't "vanilla," that would be horrible!" You really, honest to god are that dense, aren't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 07:44 PM |
| 1 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?The research shows that (a) most convicted rapists cannot remember what the victim was wearing and (b) A Federal Commission on Crime of Violence Study found that only 4.4% of all reported rapes involved provocative behavior on the part of the victim. In contrast, in murder cases 22% involved such behavior (as simple as a glance). So, unless you wanna start telling people, "Hey, don't look at other people, you might get murdered!" telling women "Hey, don't act or dress proactively or you might ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 05:12 PM |
| 2 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?So, first of all, from a purely pragmatic stand point, that's actually pretty shitty advice. How you dress has pretty much nothing to do with your likelihood of being raped, so telling someone, "Just don't dress like a slut and you'll be okay" is very misleading. So then, we have to ask ourselves, why is such an obviously false claim so widespread? The answer is, quite frankly, rape culture and the common assertion that women who've been raped were "asking for it" and you can tell "by the way th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 04:45 PM |
| 2 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?My god, do I even want to know what 'slutwalk' is? Lord have mercy, what is 'slutwalk'? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 04:34 PM |
| 1 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?I actually just answered this same sort of question from a different poster, so I'll just link my response here. Hope that helps. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 04:32 PM |
| 1 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?Informed consent is not a moral concept. Ugh, yes it is. If you've ever conducted research in psychology, medicine, or bioethics, or hell, even volunteered as a human research subject, you'd know that a lot of ethical consideration goes into how to properly 'inform' a potential human research subject of the possible risks of the study. It's not enough to get consent, that consent has to be informed, meaning the subject has not just been told what the potential consequences are, but in a vernacul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 04:28 PM |
| 2 | Feminist learns about The Red Pill and Changes her Tune causing Dave Futrelle to whine about it: Does this confirm that TRP is starting to win the public war?Amartya Talikdar got kick out avfm when pual found out Actually, AVFM started out banning anyone who called out Amartya Talikdar in the comments. Amartya Talikdar was only banned himself after a ton of pressure was applied by David Futrelle on We Hunted the Mammoth. and aren't apart of the mrm, which i guess i am going to have to remind you is what this movie is about. I wasn't commenting on the upcoming film, just pointing out that there is a lot of overlap between movements like White Supremac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 04:09 PM |
| 2 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?I DIDN'T RAPE HER SHE WAS GIVING ME THE SEX EYES SHE ONLY SAID NO CAUSE SHE DIDN'T WANT TO BE CALLED A SLUT I SAW HER SEX EYES I GOT THE SIGNAL WHAT IS WITH PEOPLE CHANGING THE DEFINITION OF RAPE ALL THE TIME THE FEMINISTS ARE JUST JEALOUS I DIDN'T FUCK THEM ALSO | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 04:05 PM |
| 2 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?Also as a preventative measure, telling a person NOT to walk down that neigbourhood in the dark with jewelry and money flashing isn't horrible advice. No, it's not and in fact, I've stated several times already that educating people on the basic safety measures they can take to protect themselves is not victim blaming, but expecting them to take moral responsibility for crimes committed against them certainly is victim blaming. TBH, I've reiterated this several times already and I'm not sure you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 04:03 PM |
| 1 | Feminist learns about The Red Pill and Changes her Tune causing Dave Futrelle to whine about it: Does this confirm that TRP is starting to win the public war?Roosh V certainly does come across like a caricature, doesn't he? A bit like a cartoon villain, even. I had a hard time believing any of his content was serious when I first started reading him, but then I noticed how frequently he was being featured on /r/TheRedPill and figured that if his fans were taking his content at face value, then maybe it was meant to be taken at face value. The articles on Return of Kings certainly seems absurd, but there are some bat shit crazy people in this world wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 03:59 PM |
| 1 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?I stand by my argument. Having sex with someone who is mentally impaired, particularly their decision-making capacity, is wrong and in many cases, rape. I'm opposed to sober men/women having sex with obviously intoxicated persons for the same reason I am opposed to mentally sound men/women having sex with persons possessing certain mental disabilities. If your frontal lobe isn't properly functioning, you literally--like, biologically kind of literally--can't properly process information and make… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 06:13 AM |
| 2 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?Yes, the studies I referenced list the percentage of rape accusations that constitute "false rape accusations," they DO NOT list the number of convictions vs. acquittals in actual cases, for that, I'd suggest going to RAINN, which I've linked previously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 05:38 AM |
| -1 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?Men are responsible for women and should learn to be psychic. Okay, so, first of all, it doesn't take a freaking psychic to determine that a woman is tipsy and back off, just some basic observations skills. No onus is put on the female (shocker) and she is treated as a feeble child. Secondly, I hold women to the exact same moral standards. If you're a woman looking to score, it would be unethical to target an intoxicated man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 05:29 AM |
| 0 | Feminist learns about The Red Pill and Changes her Tune causing Dave Futrelle to whine about it: Does this confirm that TRP is starting to win the public war?Not sure what your point here is, really. I'm simply trying to argue that David Futrelle isn't attempting to censor his opponents when he labels them, he's just doing his job and reporting on who they are and the ideologies the subscribe to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 04:52 AM |
| 0 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?Informed consent is not a criminal law concept, it's a torts and financial concept. And a moral concept, actually, particularly in discussions of research ethics, but it's being used in a lot of different contexts now. It can't be left to the man to determine that, that's demanding mind-reading. Which is why I would argue that the morally responsible person wouldn't have sex with an intoxicated individual period (unless, perhaps, they've known each other for a while, are in an established relati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 04:46 AM |
| 3 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?Here are a bunch of rape statistics from RAINN, probably the most well-regarded authority on the subject, for your perusal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 02:33 AM |
| 6 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?His dick, duh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 02:08 AM |
| 3 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?What if the victim isn't conscious, but black out drunk? There's loads of research demonstrating that alcohol affects the frontal lobe in particular, making informed consent impossible if severely intoxicated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 02:01 AM |
| -4 | Feminist learns about The Red Pill and Changes her Tune causing Dave Futrelle to whine about it: Does this confirm that TRP is starting to win the public war?I mean, Roissy of Chateau Heartiste is a White Nationalist who has been featured on the Daily Stormer, for starters. Then there's Roosh V, who hasn't self-identified as a Nazi as such, but has expressed wide spread anti-Semetic sentiments, his most popular piece on the subject being "The Damaging Effects of Jewsih Intellectualism and Activism on Western Culture." The article is based on Kevin MacDonald's The Culture of Critique (If you don't know him, Kevin MacDonald is pretty much the official … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 01:46 AM |
| 9 | If you could decide the definition of rape, what would you make it? Where would you draw the lines?Lol, I just had to read the URL and I'm like, "Are we not even pretending to post objective articles from legitimate sources anymore?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 12:54 AM |
| 2 | Feminist learns about The Red Pill and Changes her Tune causing Dave Futrelle to whine about it: Does this confirm that TRP is starting to win the public war?DO IT!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 12:24 AM |
| 1 | Feminist learns about The Red Pill and Changes her Tune causing Dave Futrelle to whine about it: Does this confirm that TRP is starting to win the public war?I'm really hoping we get another "Sarkeesian Effect" out of this. That shit show fed my need for drama for months straight. It was better than Judge Judy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 12:24 AM |
| -8 | Feminist learns about The Red Pill and Changes her Tune causing Dave Futrelle to whine about it: Does this confirm that TRP is starting to win the public war?In contrast, calling your opponent names like "nazi" or "misogynist" or "neckbeard" or "rape apologist" is shaming language. I mean...not if the person being criticized is literally a Nazi, misogynist, or rape apologist, which many prominent figures in the MRA, Red Pill, and PUA movements are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 12:22 AM |
| 2 | [Question for BP] Why do my friendships with women always go sour?No apology necessary. Debates can get a little heated sometimes, but that's we're all very passionate about our opinions here and that's okay. I look forward to future discussions as well. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/15 04:05 PM |
| 2 | [Question for BP] Why do my friendships with women always go sour?I'm not sure why a discussion of beta orbiters is relevant here? All I'm trying to say is that nobody--young or old, male or female, friend or lover--likes to hang around a Negative Nancy all the time and, if you find find yourself being phased out of all the relationships in which you "open up" the onus is on you to find a better, healthier way to express yourself, not on others to put up with your bitching. Can we pretty much agree on that point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/15 12:19 PM |
| 2 | [Question for BP] Why do my friendships with women always go sour?The woman who is particularly bad in that regard still has a constant stream of attention and validation flowing her way - a dynamic that doesn't apply in the reversed scenario. IDK, man. I've definitely played sounding board to a number of men in my life. I eventually I had to cut myself off from a couple of them precisely because they treated me exclusively as a sounding board, rather than a friend. If we were going out, I knew it was so one or the other of them could complain to me for an hou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/15 11:34 AM |
| 2 | [Question for BP] Why do my friendships with women always go sour?I am a problem solver anyway. If I can solve a problem easily, why the fuck would I have to "open up" about it in the first place? I open up when I want to feel empathized with. That's not the point I was making, though. Even if you aren't asking for help with problem solving directly--even if you are just venting and want a little empathy--the attitude you project is still important. There's a big, telling difference between the personality of someone who vents about their problems with an unde… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/15 02:39 PM |
| 2 | [Question for BP] Why do my friendships with women always go sour?Most of us think that opening up is completely useless if you have to follow all the advice there. You have to be so careful to open up the "right way" that you are better off by just coping with your problems on your own. I mean, TBH, if it takes a conscious effort to approach your problems with a positive, non-defeatist attitude--so much effort, in fact, that you'd rather not bother at all--that says a lot more about you as a person than it does about women. If approaching your problems as a p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/15 06:02 PM |
| 2 | Where do you draw the line about cheating in your own relationships?Yeah, that wouldn't be allowed; we'd consider that cheating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/15 04:30 AM |
| 4 | TRP doesn't understand how women can be attracted to more than looks because they themselves aren't attracted to more than looks.I'm in the "Eats Cheetos and Watches Too Much TV" stage, myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/15 04:21 AM |
| 2 | Where do you draw the line about cheating in your own relationships?Anything that involves sexual interaction with another person is considered cheating in our relationship unless we've explicitly made an exception. So, porn is 100% okay, but cybersex, camming, or sexual contact with another person is typically out of bounds. Right now, the only "exception" to the this rule is strip clubs. We're both allowed to visit strip clubs and get lap dances, mostly with friends for birthday parties and such--we've gone together a few times, even--but that's about it. Ther… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/15 04:10 AM |
| 2 | [Question for BP] Why do my friendships with women always go sour?I think a lot of the confusion here is derived from men who think, "Oh, women want me to be emotionally open, let's do it!" without considering exactly how they open up, which is extremely important. I, personally, am only interested in LTRs with emotionally available men (reduces problems of passive-aggressiveness, makes working through real world problems easier, encourages bonding, etc.), but I am not interested in men who constantly whine, complain, and spew negativity. Everyone needs to ven… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/15 02:04 AM |
| 3 | Question for both BP and RP: What was your parent's relationship like and how did it influence you?Both my mom and dad were high school sweethearts who continued dating in college and got married young, then had us kids in their early to mid-twenties. Mom grew up middle class and dad grew up poor, but they both grew up in the same area. After marriage, mom became a SAHM while dad worked as an engineer, moving himself up to the middle class. Early childhood was pretty sweet, until I learned that my dad was secretly beating my mother and verbally abusing her behind closed doors. It seemed to my… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/15 09:36 PM |
| 2 | CMV: It is hypocritical for a man to be promiscuous but prefer a non-promiscuous woman for long term relationships.Not a fan of men who enjoy riding the Cunt Carousel, myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/15 05:34 AM |
| 3 | In defense of ephebophilia, or as I call it the way of nature.Actually, brain maturation is complete, on average, at 25, with women finishing brain maturation only about two years earlier. Which, oddly enough, means that before they hit the age of 23, women tend to have more a developed decision making skills than men of the same age. Check out this great broadcast on NPR discussing the current research on brain development and its implications. You might be pleasantly surprised. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/15 09:01 PM |
| 28 | In defense of ephebophilia, or as I call it the way of nature.Mating begins with the onset of fertility. That's really all I should have to point out...we ephebophiles ARE NOT PEDOPHILES... Pedophiles want to have sex with CHILDREN. As an ephebophile I would NEVER so much as consider having sex with a child. Uh, puberty usually hits girls around ages 9-14 and, well, girls aged 9-14 are children, in elementary school or middle school, usually. Now, having sex with a fresh faced, virginal young teen on the other hand... that's another matter entirely. Show m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/15 01:45 AM |
| 3 | Left-Wing Bias in the Academy Finally Confirmed (and the paper is by Leftists, no less)Alright, so there is no denying that the political climate will effect the scientific community--where funding goes, what gets published, who gets promoted--and the kind of research it produces. That's just the reality of the situation. Always has been, always will be. But I'd be extremely hesitant to throw any and all scientific studies in the trash because, "Obviously, the feminist conspiracy is behind this research! It's all feminazi propaganda disguised as legitimate research!" The proper wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/15 08:19 PM |
| 3 | Left-Wing Bias in the Academy Finally Confirmed (and the paper is by Leftists, no less)However, Scientology does. The difference is the extreme fanatic views, the banishings, and especially the use of describing/applying 'levels' (TRP: "you're still in the anger phase"; "I still can't unplug") and auditing. Holy crap, I never noticed that. It's amazing how much insight you can get into a community just by paying attention to the language they use. That is some 1984, Newspeak type shit right there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/15 07:39 PM |
| 2 | Left-Wing Bias in the Academy Finally Confirmed (and the paper is by Leftists, no less)True, TRP doesn't discourage members from looking to outside sources for advice, but there is an awful lot of anti-"concern trolling" propaganda, which is largely used to ostracize and in some cases, ban those who disagree with the primary tenets of TRP thought or the content provided by endorsed contributors (i.e. extensive censorship). Here is one Mod Post warning against dissent, and another one, and another one, and yet another one, and then my favorite. You're not really gonna be accepted i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/15 07:35 PM |
| 2 | If being a ''strong independent woman'' is so empowering. why are so many women unhappy?Ah, another fan of the living wage? I just got on board that train a few months ago; a close friend talked me into it. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/15 01:36 AM |
| 1 | If being a ''strong independent woman'' is so empowering. why are so many women unhappy?Yeah, I think we're just at different wavelengths; good talk, though. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/15 01:29 AM |
| 1 | If being a ''strong independent woman'' is so empowering. why are so many women unhappy?Damn, wish I could read it, sounds super interesting. :/ Bases on what you posted, though, it looks like sleep could definitely be playing a factor here in the leisure time gap. (I'm assuming naps aren't counted as leisure time according to the survey, correct?) Yet, the numbers still don't quite add up, so there's still a bit of an unexplained leisure gap and other factors must also be playing a role. Seriously, if you can think of a way to get me that survey, I'd love to read it through and ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 08:55 PM |
| 1 | If being a ''strong independent woman'' is so empowering. why are so many women unhappy?It's also a strawman, and something you clearly have some personal issues about, which aren't relevant here. I don't know, man. I've had a few TRPers here already--including you--try and argue that expecting men to clean, cook, and help raise the kids is "unfairly" pushing responsibilities on them that they shouldn't have to shoulder because "that's not their job/role/whatever." Sounds like a lot of whining and complaining to me over what is essentially picking up after yourself and keeping your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 08:43 PM |
| 2 | If being a ''strong independent woman'' is so empowering. why are so many women unhappy?If that's right, that would be a very valid point. Would you mind linking me where you found the original survey? I kept getting hit with summaries of it and pay walls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 08:34 PM |
| 1 | If being a ''strong independent woman'' is so empowering. why are so many women unhappy?Oh, it is! That's why I gotta exercise something, like, 10hrs/week to keep my sexy bod in check; it's not easy being a foodie and making sure your favorite pants keep on fitting, year after year. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 08:28 PM |
| 0 | If being a ''strong independent woman'' is so empowering. why are so many women unhappy?Yeah, like I said, I'm not really a fan of Psychology Today for that very reason; they tend to over-exaggerate findings and report on 'studies' with less than a rigorous methodology. If I were trying to make a solid argument, I wouldn't have linked that article myself. I was just responding to the assessment /u/Protopill made on the article which, BTW, he originally linked, not me. But, I did do some fishing around, and a lot of the conclusions made regarding women's roles are pretty well establ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 08:17 PM |
| 0 | If being a ''strong independent woman'' is so empowering. why are so many women unhappy?Whoa, whoa, I never said, "Men just suck more than ever and that's why women are unhappy." It's just that while opportunities for women have expanded--allowing them to now pursue higher education and more competitive careers--the expectations for women are still pretty traditional. What does that mean? It means that women in high powered careers are also expected to fulfill the role of housewife and child carer all by themselves. Yet, men can continue to fulfill only one of those three roles and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 07:15 PM |
| 1 | If being a ''strong independent woman'' is so empowering. why are so many women unhappy?Lol, k. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 04:35 AM |
| 1 | If being a ''strong independent woman'' is so empowering. why are so many women unhappy?You really, truly, honestly do think that just because you have a penis--despite refusing to debate using actual, scientific sources--that you're the most rational, level-headed, well-read person in the room, don't you? I mean, I see it everyday on TRP, but it still baffles me every time, that total lack of self-awareness. I can see the appeal, though. It must be nice to feel all superior to half the population without actually having to earn that feeling through hard work, like the rest of the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 04:24 AM |
| 2 | If being a ''strong independent woman'' is so empowering. why are so many women unhappy?The studies are easy to find, use google. I don't need to continuously play the source game for easy to find shit a retarded child can find. Ah, yes, insulting me to make up for the fact that you can't back your own arguments worth shit. A classic, but a pretty lame move for a member of the "superior sex." Trust me here, hiding behind insults doesn't make you look as awesome as you think it does. If your only play is to just keep doubting things that are easily provable with a simple google sear… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 04:11 AM |
| 3 | If being a ''strong independent woman'' is so empowering. why are so many women unhappy?That's just a natural consequence of spicy food though. I don't fight it anymore. Burning poops are just part of my life now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 03:41 AM |
| 2 | If being a ''strong independent woman'' is so empowering. why are so many women unhappy?In the most egalitarian countries, men and women still pick jobs that align with gender roles. Source, please? The fact is that most appear to want to live a certain way, despite what BPers and other collectivists say. Cool, where are you getting these enlightening "facts" from? And studies show that more people think someone should stay at home with kids than not instead of egalitarian divides. Okay, great, what studies? Can you please stop saying things without supporting evidence? I am not in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 03:34 AM |
| 9 | Post pictures of what you think a 4, 6 and 8 look like of the gender you are attracted to.IDK, but in my opinion most people without make-up, a decent haircut/style, and nice good fitting clothes aren't particularly hot. I always thought being able to present yourself in a way that highlights your best features would be an aspect of your SMV. I've seen it go both ways, though, with some TRPers calling makeup "deceitful," while others complain that it's irresponsible and lazy for a woman not to learn proper makeup skills when she could knock her SMV up a few points by doing so. Genuin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 03:21 AM |
| 1 | If being a ''strong independent woman'' is so empowering. why are so many women unhappy?You haven't made any points relevant to what I said Yes, I did. The basic argument you're supporting is that being the "breadwinner" of the family--a role that used to be reserved for men in most Western civilizations--makes women unhappy, but the research /u/Protopill linked actually suggests that women enjoy having the freedom to pursue high-powered, high-stress careers, they just don't enjoy being expected to take care of the household and raise kids all by themselves on top of that. Research… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 03:01 AM |
| 1 | Post pictures of what you think a 4, 6 and 8 look like of the gender you are attracted to.Sweet, I'm fuckable! Whoot whoot! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 01:49 AM |
| 2 | Red pill and being silly in relationshipsI literally broke up with my ex for, well, a lot of reasons, but probably reason #3 was because he couldn't just let go and be silly with me. Even if we were alone, my being wacky "embarrassed" him. (Example: On prom night, he got pissy with me because I wanted to do a Charlie's Angels pose while my parents were taking pictures.) Anyway, it's my current SO's ability to be silly and carefree that makes him so attractive and allows us to bond so seamlessly. I'm talking fart wars, goofy insults, ti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 01:41 AM |
| 4 | Red pill and being silly in relationshipsPart of handling the frame is outcome independence so I would imagine Yes RP men chill and joke a bit. 'Cocky+Funny' is Game101 for a reason you know! But if the very reason you're joking around is to "game" your plate/gf/wife/whatever, isn't that still rather exhausting? Being funny for the sake of impressing someone, rather than having a little fun and bonding over it? Being silly for the sake of being silly? It's gotta be exhausting, always putting on a "show" for the ladies, never letting go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 01:23 AM |
| 9 | If being a ''strong independent woman'' is so empowering. why are so many women unhappy?I mean, the rate of depression, anxiety, and addiction is generally higher across all sexes in high powered, high stress careers, especially medicine. I think it's important to take that into account and keep a little perspective when looking through the research. Studies that didn't differentiate between gender saw similar results when it comes to the relationship between happiness and career. Here is a compilation of the most recent research on depression, anxiety, addiction and suicide in phy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 01:06 AM |
| 1 | AWALTI can't think of any way that bringing up stressful shit would arouse people, even if it was to solve them. Are you kidding? Men who can problem solve their way to the top are hot as fuck. My bf had a really stressful couple of months juggling several job offers and trying to figure out all the pros and cons of each offer. We talked it through (i.e. he vented his frustrations and then we discussed problem solving strategies), then he went on to successfully play two different companies against e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/15 01:33 PM |
| 1 | AWALTOh, I remember that one! I wish I had saved the link though. :/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/15 03:04 AM |
| 4 | AWALTI completely agree here and it's a shame the point you're making is so often overlooked. Complaining is unattractive. Whining is unattractive. The actual sharing of emotions isn't, but yes, how you choose to share your feelings--either with a positive, problem solving attitude or a defeatist attitude--does have an impact on how attractive you are. People who have their shit together and can manage their problems well are just more attractive than people who can't. Negatively is unattractive, not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/15 02:28 AM |
| 1 | For all pills: What is terrible mistakes have you made in past relationships?I totally get the anti-cohabitation stance, even if I'm personally against it. My Mom was actually very opposed to my bf and I moving in together pre-marriage for a lot of the reasons you mentioned. For me, though, it was just another aspect of the vetting process. I think it's easier to hide your more contemptible flaws when you have separate spaces. It's not so hard to put on a mask and keep up a facade when you just "visit" one another for pre-determined periods of time. Everyone can "fake it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/15 12:24 AM |
| 0 | For all pills: What is terrible mistakes have you made in past relationships?I don't agree with a lot of the RPW ideology, but the emphasis on a lengthy vetting process needs to be mainstream, for real. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/15 04:16 PM |
| 5 | For all pills: What is terrible mistakes have you made in past relationships?Alrighty, so my ex and I were high school sweethearts, about 1 year apart. He went away to college while I was till in high school, so we were long distance for a while. Cue one Friday night, he calls me weepy about how lonely he is and asks me to come down last minute. Fine, I care about him and he really needs me, so I come down, footing the bill for a Greyhound ticket round trip all by myself. Not cheap. Anyway, I get there, and he decides he wants to spend the entire weekend playing video ga… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/15 02:30 AM |
| 0 | Question for RP men: will you go down on sluts?I'm just sayin... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/15 12:08 AM |
| 1 | Question for RP men: will you go down on sluts?She'll only ask for it more than once a month if it's good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/15 01:57 AM |
| 1 | Besides providing an environment to raise children, what are your reasons for seeking a marriage, for those of you who are married/hope to be?That's a really good question, actually. Aside from all the legal benefits, I think marriage is ultimately a personal thing. It's something that you make meaningful, not something that is inherently meaningful by itself. For me, marriage is the act of making a life long commitment to another person. A commitment to cherish, love, fight alongside, and most importantly (for me), to serve another person, day in and day out. I think we all have the power to make someone truly, completely happy and t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/15 11:49 PM |
| -1 | If you saw this thread except with the genders flipped, would you call this misogynistic?but she said she was "fun" and has exciting hobbies such as...eating. Doesn't that entice you? Baby, you watch me shove nachos into my face for five minutes and I guarantee, I'll be irresistible by the end. I mean, I will literally taste like nachos. Who wouldn't want a nacho flavored kiss. I mean, it's delicious. ;) P.S. Am I doing the flirting right, you guys? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/15 04:30 AM |
| 3 | A message to The Blue Pill: Above all else, the reason young men flock to The Red Pill is because of shitty feminist dating advice.Good question, let me explain. Socialization is a skill, like learning to play basketball, or write, or cook. Just like with any other skill, there are guidelines to get you started--tips and tricks for learning to actively listen, be heard, and hold a genuine conversation--but they're just guidelines. Then with practice, you get a more refined "feel" for how human interaction works. As you can see, learning to socialize doesn't require you to sacrifice who you are fundamentally, as a person, in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/15 08:47 PM |
| 3 | A message to The Blue Pill: Above all else, the reason young men flock to The Red Pill is because of shitty feminist dating advice.Still sticking to my guns, here. Memorizing a bunch of "rules & regulations" on how to interact with women only makes your interactions insincere and awkward which, BTW, most women can pick up on pretty quickly. That's usually what is meant when someone is labeled a 'creep.' Creeps are guys who are following a formula to get laid, rather than being genuine, and no one likes being treated like a prize to be won; it's fucking creepy. On top of that, trying to memorize a bunch of rules will only ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/15 07:02 PM |
| 3 | A message to The Blue Pill: Above all else, the reason young men flock to The Red Pill is because of shitty feminist dating advice.There are so many men having successful relationships, and people like We Are Legion who can literally control people's minds... Oh my god, We_Are_Legion cannot control people's minds, Jesus H. Christ. Half the time I talk with him, he has trouble understanding what I'm writing, let alone reading my mind. Don't believe everything you read on the internet; some people are good at talking big and are quite assertive about the B.S. they're pushing, but it's still just B.S. ...and mould their partne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/15 06:55 PM |
| 2 | A message to The Blue Pill: Above all else, the reason young men flock to The Red Pill is because of shitty feminist dating advice.Healthy relationships require healthy people, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/15 06:39 PM |
| 5 | A message to The Blue Pill: Above all else, the reason young men flock to The Red Pill is because of shitty feminist dating advice.Well thank you for the offer, but when men can play women like a fiddle like this, I have a feeling that there is in fact a cheat code. If women are playing a game, as RP says (and frankly I believe most of them are now), then by encouraging men not to, we concede the frame to women. Doesn't it seem a little, IDK, conspiritard-esque to assume that all women, everywhere are actively trying to manipulate your behaviors to their benefit and your detriment? I'm not saying that some women aren't mani… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/15 06:35 PM |
| 14 | A message to The Blue Pill: Above all else, the reason young men flock to The Red Pill is because of shitty feminist dating advice.What I am getting from your post is an unhealthy obsession with finding a woman and in fact, any woman just because that's what you're "supposed to do." And in the pursuit of that goal, it seems you've been tapping your social circle and the internet for a set of "magical rules" that will most certainly, if followed, get you the aforementioned woman. Of course that's going to cause a lot of stress and by extension, anxiety. You're trying to mold yourself after whatever society deems "successful"… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/15 04:38 AM |
| 4 | People who are highly experienced in LTRs (lasted 10+ years, or had many different LTRs), please share your observations and opinions, why did you choose the path that you chose? What worked and what didn't?Alrighty, so my current partner and I have been together 6.5 years and we're still going strong. I've only been in one other LTR, which lasted 3.5 years before I broke up with the guy. In both cases, we were roughly the same age, give or take a year. Those whose relationships have lasted, looking back were there any green flags that you would recommend looking for in a partner? I wouldn't say there were any major 'green flags' applicable to all relationships. But I would advise anyone looking fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/15 12:41 AM |
| 1 | Should riding the cock carousel in her past automatically disqualify a woman from being a serious LTR prospect?Alrighty, so your first source, "The National Marriage Project," seems to be a little less than objective and is clearly pushing an agenda in their paper, which makes me a bit iffy. Never-the-less, it seems to use pretty rigorous statistical methods, so I'm gonna take it at face value. You're definitely right in that, according to the article, an increase in romantic partners is associated with lower marital quality. However, it shows that both men and women with high promiscuity report reduced … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/15 02:37 AM |
| 1 | If women like dangerous bad boys and don't care about reliability or class, then why don't women love catcalls?What you don't seem to get is that women being sexually objectified is just a fact of life... But it doesn't need to be and that's my point. Sure, there will always be outliers regardless of the cultural changes that take place who will still objectify women, rather than treating them as individuals with value outside their pretty looks. But compliance is no way to live a life and by condemning objectification and making that kind of condemnation part of the cultural norm, we can start to elimin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/15 05:27 PM |
| 1 | Should riding the cock carousel in her past automatically disqualify a woman from being a serious LTR prospect?Because I don't think blogs count as a legitimate scientific source, that makes me bitchy? If you link an actual study, published in a peer-reviewed, scientific journal with a decent impact factor, I would be happy to read it in its entirety and respond. But no, I have no intention of reading an opinion piece and giving it the same weight as a rigorous study. Sorry if that makes things difficult for you, but it is what it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/15 07:51 PM |
| 15 | Should riding the cock carousel in her past automatically disqualify a woman from being a serious LTR prospect?Did you seriously just link me Chateau Heartiste as your source? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/15 09:07 AM |
| 4 | Should riding the cock carousel in her past automatically disqualify a woman from being a serious LTR prospect?Sauce? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/15 07:07 AM |
| 1 | If women like dangerous bad boys and don't care about reliability or class, then why don't women love catcalls?Stop being disingenuous, you know perfectly well that sexual aggressive behavior of any sort is usually one way-street between the genders. Yeah, that's called sexism. That's what I have been trying to argue this entire time. That catcalling is a form of harassment aimed specifically at women and that therefore, it's an example of the casual sexism we still observe in the United States. As you say, men can get hassled on the street in a nonsexual way, but women do, too. I get regularly hassled f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/15 05:17 AM |
| 1 | Why Does TBP Care If Men Subscribe to AWALT?Having a woman work for you means risking a potential phoney sexual harassment...nonsense lawsuit against you...In some cases the charges may even be real, which is all the more reason not to hire women. You want your workers to focus on work instead of thinking about some chick from the office they won't get and developing oneitis. Ah, the old, "men turn into mindless sex zombies when there are boobies nearby and just can't focus when their poor boners are getting in the way" excuse. I mean, se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/15 05:08 AM |
| 1 | If women like dangerous bad boys and don't care about reliability or class, then why don't women love catcalls?I invite you to rewatch that stupid 10hrs in NYC video where everything including saying "good day" in broad daylight was counted as harrassment. It is harassment. Maybe not particularly frightening harassment, but harassment never-the-less. It's disrespectful to start making loud, vulgar sexual advances on someone who clearly isn't interested and to continue doing it even after they've indicated they're bothered by it. then taking that as an indicator of pervasive misogyny in your society while… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/15 04:41 AM |
| 1 | Why Does TBP Care If Men Subscribe to AWALT?Pay attention with all that straw, you're going to burn yourself when it catches fire. Apart from that, the group as such endorses nothing, this is what indvidual members endorse. In order for a "community" to be a "community" or a "group" to be a "group," the individual members need to be unified by something. There needs to be some common set of beliefs under which the individuals rally, creating a basis for the community. This includes /r/theredpill. There are certain central, cannon beliefs … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/15 04:37 AM |
| 1 | Why Does TBP Care If Men Subscribe to AWALT?I just linked you research demonstrating that my comment does compute with the practice of law. But if you don't have respect for well-researched, peer reviewed studies and value anecdotal evidence over and above that sort of critical analysis, I don't see what's left to discuss. You can't really have a fulfilling debate with someone who isn't interested in taking real, tangible evidence into account. It's like Richard Dawkins trying to talk sense into a young earth creationist who refuses to pi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/15 12:48 AM |
| 1 | Why Does TBP Care If Men Subscribe to AWALT?I stand by my argument. Your biases and my biases, whether intentionally or not, are going to have an impact on the way we behave. TRP, if nothing else, paints women as being inferior and those who strongly hold that belief--those who have internalized it and made it a part of who they are--are going to behave in a way that reflects that part of themselves. Failing to acknowledge those biases only makes you a slave to them and even worse, an oblivious slave. Also, once you do your oaths you will… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/15 11:53 PM |
| 1 | Why Does TBP Care If Men Subscribe to AWALT?So no, I don't give two fucks what /u/Like_a_Lime thinks about me or my view of women? Why are you on a debate subreddit if you don't care about the opinions of others? I only responded to you because you're on a debate subreddit supposedly, you know, debating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/15 11:08 PM |
| 1 | Why Does TBP Care If Men Subscribe to AWALT?Here is an article in Think Progress summarizing recent research on women, raises, and promotions, basically demonstrating what I just said. It's a bit boiled down for easy reading, but the article should have a link to the original research for you. Because what I see are shitloads of women only scholarships, internships, etc especially for STEM. The reason for this--or any kind of affirmative action used to level the playing field for minorities--isn't to give any one group a "free pass." In f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/15 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Why Does TBP Care If Men Subscribe to AWALT?I may only be a student, but even I know that the only way to squash one's weaknesses is to acknowledge them. By failing to acknowledge your potential for bias--and I'm not singling you out here, everyone has biases--you're only limiting yourself. Self-awareness and by extension, self-actualization can only be realized when we are willing to question our own "objectivity." You can argue until you are blue in the face that no lawyer ever--even once--has acted on bias. You can scream and shout and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/15 10:55 PM |
| 1 | Why Does TBP Care If Men Subscribe to AWALT?What I'm getting at with all of this is how much of this imbalance is the result of women's choices and how much of it is actually discrimination from a young age barring women from getting into STEM fields? Rather than speculate, let's bring up the research, shall we? Here's a survey study conducted by both the American Society for the Advancement of Science and Science--two extremely reputable organizations--demonstrating that women are still experiencing a great deal of gender bias in STEM fi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/15 10:44 PM |
| 1 | Why Does TBP Care If Men Subscribe to AWALT?Seriously? You've got a 12 bullet point list about how to maximize your plating and dating outcome with as little effort and expense as possible and because it includes the idea of letting a date have a few drinks (not "making her drunk") you start rambling about drunk rape...that post of yours is a perfect example of bluepillers (a) cherrypicking a post... The reality is that while personal beliefs may vary from TRPer to TRPer, I'm not interested in what individual TRPers believe. I'm intereste… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/15 10:14 PM |
| 1 | If women like dangerous bad boys and don't care about reliability or class, then why don't women love catcalls?I mean, whoever you find attractive, that's cool; I personally don't find "bad boys" attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/15 09:51 PM |
| 2 | Why Does TBP Care If Men Subscribe to AWALT?So, you concede that TRP Theory is discriminatory against women? You just don't give a fuck? Is that accurate? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 04:56 PM |
| 2 | Why Does TBP Care If Men Subscribe to AWALT?Because men are more likely to choose STEM careers in the first place. Oops, looks like I was a bit unclear. The current research shows that given two equally qualified candidates applying for the same job or gunning for the same promotion, men are more likely to be selected over women, especially in the hard sciences and extra especially when it comes to leadership positions. Once you account for the fact that there are more men in STEM than women, there's still an obvious bias in favor of men.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 04:50 PM |
| 1 | If women like dangerous bad boys and don't care about reliability or class, then why don't women love catcalls?These men don't give a damn if we view them as classless, they're more concerned about the oft chance it might work. And all they have to do is yell out "sweet thang" every time someone they consider attractive walks by? Seems like a no-brainer for them. It's really only a no-brainer if you don't value your character as a man. It's only a no-brainer if you have such little self-respect that developing respectability, admirability, social prowess, and class is of no interest to you. And yes, I un… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 04:20 PM |
| 2 | If women like dangerous bad boys and don't care about reliability or class, then why don't women love catcalls?Somehow I doubt that the guys who do it lose sleep over what you (personal you) think about their pastime activities. True, I'm just surprised so many TRPers are coming to the defense of catcallers, when it seems clear to me that the cost of getting pussy in this case is the denigration of one's character. And, well, I always thought TRPers were against sacrificing character for pussy and enslaving themselves to cunt not, you know, in support of that kind of behavior. I'm just a little surprised… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 04:12 PM |
| 2 | Why Does TBP Care If Men Subscribe to AWALT?Here's another lovely little post that made the front page of /r/theredpill, instructing members to get their date drunk while staying sober and then to intentionally push past her comfort zone in order to get laid. You know, basically rape. Here's an effort post from /r/thebluepill, complete with direct links, showing /u/redpillschool, the top moderator and founder of both /r/theredpill and /r/redpillwomen, arguing that women shouldn't vote, that marital rape should be made legal, and an excerp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 03:43 PM |
| 1 | Why Does TBP Care If Men Subscribe to AWALT?But that's feminist 101 - throwing boys under the bus as long as it benefits women is okay, but every woman left behind is one too many. No, it's not okay. Any one child left behind is one too many, period. Male or female, it doesn't matter. Every child deserves to be given a solid education and encouragement once they've found their passions. The reality, though, is that if you view one sex as being inherently inferior to the other, you're going to treat members of that sex--even if they're you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 03:22 PM |
| 3 | If women like dangerous bad boys and don't care about reliability or class, then why don't women love catcalls?And that's sorta my point. Maybe catcalling lands you some ass--maybe--but it does so at the expense of your character, and at the end of the day, a man who would sacrifice his character for a go at some pussy isn't the kind of man I, or most women, find worthy of respect. And, TBH, it's hard to be sexually attracted to a man you don't respect, who you see as having less class than yourself. Which brings us back around to the question, does catcalling really work in your favor if pretty much all… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 03:06 PM |
| 3 | If women like dangerous bad boys and don't care about reliability or class, then why don't women love catcalls?so where's the damage (for the guy himself, that is) in doing it I mean, if he values respectability and social prowess as character traits, screaming, "Lemme see dat fat pussy!" across the street is only going to denigrate him. Even if he does succeed in getting pussy, he's sacrificed his character in order to do so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 06:46 AM |
| 3 | Why Does TBP Care If Men Subscribe to AWALT?You know, just a thought, you might wanna do some research before making such a broad claim. I'm a medical student and we observe gender bias all the time. Over and over again, studies have shown that when women report severe pain as a symptom, they are taken less seriously than men because of the belief that women complain more, over-exaggerate, and it's often "all in their heads." If you want, I can link the original study; just ask! Just this past summer, I had the chance to witness this firs… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 06:29 AM |
| 1 | If women like dangerous bad boys and don't care about reliability or class, then why don't women love catcalls?I completely agree. I've never, ever seen catcalling actually work on a woman and certainly none of my friends have ever been like, "I met this great new guy; we met when he was yelling at me across the street about how juicy my ass is!" But even if we did conceded that it could theoretically work, it's still a shitty way to live a life. I honestly don't get people who see catcalling in action and think, "Hmmm, what a good idea..." It's so embarrassing to watch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 06:03 AM |
| 3 | Why Does TBP Care If Men Subscribe to AWALT?You have no proof for this assertion. Okie dokey. Here's a highly upvoted post from /r/theredpill on why tech companies shouldn't hire women and another one encouraging RPers to avoid hiring feminists. I can dig up even more posts, if you want. But it seems pretty clear to me that over at /r/theredpill, TRPers are pretty dead set on bringing their ideology into the real world. I mean, why even bother studying a particular worldview if you have no intention of acting on it? I was under the impres… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 05:59 AM |
| 2 | If women like dangerous bad boys and don't care about reliability or class, then why don't women love catcalls?These men aren't gonna give two fucks if everyone thinks they're an asshole, if the behavior eventually gets them laid. Like I said, there's gonna be a few Homer Simpsons in every city. Not everyone can be a respectable, admirable human being. Even though it really takes very little effort to not be an asshole, for some people, even that degree of effort is too much. Some men are actually slaves to the pussy; I get that, I just don't respect or endorse that. This isn't a problem with men, it's a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 03:07 AM |
| 5 | Why Does TBP Care If Men Subscribe to AWALT?But those random strangers on the internet are employers, teachers, lawyers, doctors. They then take what they learned on TRP out of the sphere of the internet and use it to justify treating female employees, students, clients, and patients poorly, under the assumption that they "all have the mental capacity of a teenager," are typically "irrational," and are "inherently disloyal, manipulative, lazy users." Now, it's not just a bunch of dudes ranting on the internet; it's institutionalized sexis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 03:01 AM |
| 4 | If women like dangerous bad boys and don't care about reliability or class, then why don't women love catcalls?The sales douche is doing something very annoying to most women as well. It's not that it's annoying to women that I'm arguing here; I'm more concerned that it's annoying to the men doing it. I don't think most men aim to be a Verizon salesperson at Walmart, because it requires you to spend your time being something most people don't want to be: annoying. By and large, I think most men want to be the sort of person who is highly respected, admired, and socially successful and quite frankly, bein… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 02:40 AM |
| 4 | If women like dangerous bad boys and don't care about reliability or class, then why don't women love catcalls?I mean, I get why the sales douche does what he does: he's getting paid an hourly wage, probably with commission on top. But having to scream vulgar things are women for hours on end in order to get one woman's phone number? That seems like a very annoying thing to have to do with one's self and a tremendous waste of one's time, considering how much else you could get done in six hours. Not saying you're wrong or anything, just that I am regularly baffled by the humiliating, classless things so … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 01:33 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The entire red pill lexicon consists of only one generalization and it's not offensive in the least.Here, lemme look it up for you... In evolutionary theory, altruism refers to behaviour by an individual that increases the fitness of another individual while decreasing the fitness of the actor. In other words, "altruism" as I've been using the term, refers to any action that helps another individual survive and thrive, at the expense of the actor's own livelihood. No self-interest. No clear personal benefit. In fact, the exact opposite. Yet time and again, this sort of altruism has been observ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/15 04:05 PM |
| 2 | Where is this behavior actually going on?Just read it; I don't really have a response, other than that I think it was very well written and made some very good points. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/15 04:15 AM |
| 3 | Where is this behavior actually going on?Oh, I don't disagree with that. But I do think "The Red Pill" is a very specific response to "romantic fantasy culture," whereas "The Blue Pill" pretty much encompasses everything other than the red pill lifestyle. RPers are RPers as a matter of inclusion, whereas BPers are BPers as a matter of exclusion. So, overall, I think it's a bit harder to generalize "Blue Pill Ideology" than it is to generalize "Red Pill Ideology" given that the former doesn't really exist; does that make sense? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/15 03:32 AM |
| 9 | Where is this behavior actually going on?Oh, god no! I would never recommend you get married in high school and I doubt most BPers would disagree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/15 03:01 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The entire red pill lexicon consists of only one generalization and it's not offensive in the least.You need the red pill just like you need to keep eating and sleeping no matter how successful you are in all other aspects of life. I mean, if you need the red pill to get laid and/or form lasting relationships, then perhaps...but most people I know don't. Kinda liking eating and sleeping, fucking seems to come naturally to most of the men and women I know. Perhaps that's one of the reasons I have such a hard time sympathizing with the TRP worldview. :/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/15 01:57 AM |
| 4 | CMV: The entire red pill lexicon consists of only one generalization and it's not offensive in the least.So it's still self interest. No alarm no gene transfer. Clear personal benefit. Look up the definition of "altruism" in evolutionary theory; I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/15 01:40 AM |
| 3 | CMV: The entire red pill lexicon consists of only one generalization and it's not offensive in the least.Obviously, the desire to have sex--or reproduce, I guess--is a pretty powerful motivator, but to say it explains all or even most of human behavior seems a little overly simplistic to me. That takes care of man's physiological needs, sure, but there's a whole lot more in Maslow's hierarchy driving human behavior, especially the behaviors of the most accomplished among us, who strive for more than mere existence and replication. I mean, would you argue that that's your only real goal in life? To … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/15 01:37 AM |
| 4 | CMV: The entire red pill lexicon consists of only one generalization and it's not offensive in the least.I don't really know enough about evolutionary theory to debate the merits of group selection with you--my expertise is mostly in medicine & bioethics--and I am not in the habit of arguing topics I don't fully understand. But I do know the basics of evolutionary theory, enough to argue that it is a lot more complicated than theories like "alpha fucks, beta bucks" and "AWALT/AMWALT" give it credit for. Not all human interaction can be reduced to a few simplistic maxims and I certainly don't think … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/15 01:33 AM |
| 7 | CMV: The entire red pill lexicon consists of only one generalization and it's not offensive in the least.There is such thing as altruism. In the end it is self interest. Not really. If you're interested, I'd read up on some of the more recent studies regarding altruism in meerkats. Their "alarm" system is a pretty good example of legit altruism. In the end, it does help pass on the individual's genes through the protection of the nuclear family, but it's still altruism. Find me a hardcore psychopath who does altruistic things for the sole reason "it's the right thing to do" and I'll reconsider my s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/15 01:18 AM |
| 5 | CMV: The entire red pill lexicon consists of only one generalization and it's not offensive in the least.Altruism is the same way, I could've gone off topic with specific research on group selection theory but it wasn't relevant. I mean, that's kinda my point. It seems to me that a whole lot of evolutionary theory suddenly doesn't seem "relevant" when it doesn't fit into the TRP worldview, which I just find suspiciously convenient. Also, pure altruism is controversial at best right now in psychology. Altruism is a pretty important concept to evolutionary theory. You can't take a college level cours… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/15 01:08 AM |
| 4 | CMV: The entire red pill lexicon consists of only one generalization and it's not offensive in the least.You know, as a bluepiller, I see this sort of general concept being touted as "the basis for TRPer Theory" all the time and think, "You know, that's not totally off the wall; it makes sense from a scientific perspective." But then I see it being applied like this... If I see people drive 600 km for those clothes, I'm gonna assume that they either want people to know about it to help their sexual odds, plan to fuck the refugees, need an excuse to be away from home for a bit, need to feel good abo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/15 12:48 AM |
| 1 | Tinder has released the top 50 most swiped right schools for men and women. What do you make of the difference between the two lists?Really? Colorado? Huh, you learn something new everyday. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/15 12:34 AM |
| 8 | CMV: The entire red pill lexicon consists of only one generalization and it's not offensive in the least.Okay, so, serious question... Do you really believe that all human behavior can be explained by the desire to fuck? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/15 12:23 AM |
| 1 | Bad idea to marry educated women?I think surrounding myself in a bubble of reasonably intelligent and educated people may have lead to me taking it for granted. Really? If anything, I think it's the opposite. When you're surrounded by hard working, intelligent people, you are constantly bearing witness to the power of the human imagination. On a daily basis, your colleagues are sharing with you new discoveries & inventions to intrigue, inspire, and awe you. Everyday, you are reminded of what you are capable of and how wasteful … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/15 03:55 AM |
| 4 | Bad idea to marry educated women?Not everyone is looking for a "partnership" in marriage and that's okay, as long as all parties are fully aware of the nature of the dynamic and are ultimately seeking the same sort of set-up. I'm only saying that "fear" is a silly reason to avoid dating an intelligent woman if that's the kind of quality you value in a partner. As long as you are equally intelligent, hard working, and dedicated, you don't really having anything to fear. I rarely see truly intelligent men complain that they can't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/15 03:29 AM |
| 3 | Bad idea to marry educated women?In general, I've heard people online and IRL say that it's bad to marry a woman too educated (Indian or American), as they tend to have stratospheric expectations. That's really only an issue if you can't meet those expectations. Generally speaking, the more well-educated and intelligent a person, the better they know themselves, what they want out of a relationship, and whether or not a potential partner can provide it. I don't think it's necessarily "easy" to maintain a relationship with an in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/15 02:45 AM |
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