Huh that doesn’t make sense to me. If my partner was less attractive I’d expect some other redeeming qualities? Otherwise why would i be attracted to them
True, that is kind of a logical fallacy on my part. I guess i just wouldn’t advocate for cutting these women off, cuz then you would need to cut off every woman
Hm, any source other than tbis comment? I can’t find any literature on the subject at all. And this comment seems to be mostly unrelated. I find it very unlikely. I see one stat there saying 13 men died doing sex work, certainly less than women
Have you never done anything scummy? If so i applaud you. I’ve certainly done some stuff i regret and cringe thinking about. The word can describe a person or just a particular action of a person, it is useful
I don’t think so, I’ve done bad things but i don’t think I’m a bad person. Taking free drinks is something pretty much any woman will do, but i don’t think that makes them worth cutting off
Eh i doubt it is related. I think there is evidence that trans people have always been around. This is just a teen struggling with mental health, i don’t think every problem can be attributed to feminism
Eh i wouldn’t ghost them or take it so seriously. If women would buy me free drinks with no obligation or strings attached, maybe I’d actually go to the bar. But yea i will never buy a girl i don’t know a drink lol. I can’t even afford to get drunk myself at a bar
Women say they have all kinds of standards and then will date an overweight, unattractive and short man. It’s another issue that mostly exists in people’s minds or on the internet
I think it’s a bit silly... they are right that porn is “bad” but who are they convincing with their argument? Other women who don’t watch porn? Haha. This is the kind of issue that only men can help men on. As a side note, is there some good subs that actually discuss porn addiction and not man-hating?
The problem is that you’re describing 5% or less of feminist... has anyone ever actually heard the term “mansplaining” or “man spreading” ever spoken in real life. I doubt it. It’s not a real confer or threat, or very related to feminism at all. It’s just a fun topic to discuss on YouTube or Reddit. I just go by what i see irl. I’d say most people i interact with would be self described feminists, and they are not insane about it. Neither am i. Your definition is not more valid than the dictiona…
That’s prolly true, im just using it as the common figure of speech. To mean, a distinction that prolly doesn’t matter. Now this is like semantiception
I’m not saying you are, that’s why it’s great, it’s very clear. I can’t be incorrect about what it means. It means what it means. Maybe you just think there is a more accurate term. I don’t care, it doesn’t make any difference whatsoever. I think we are not in disagreement. I love u
I would if it was a term anyone used. I know what u mean it’s not helpful for convo. Language doesn’t always make sense on the surface. There are many phrases that don’t really make sense. It’s just English. Anyways i love you have a good day
Not really, it is very clear what i mean. That’s why i use it. If i say they are a female, it could mean different things to different people. If i say assigned female at birth, it can only mean one thing. I understand if you don’t like the phrase, it is not intuitive
There are scenarios where a doctor can “deduce” the genitals and be wrong. So no it is not set in stone. And regardless you’re just arguing semantics. Obviously we’re talking about the same thing and you know it. Kinda like when you used the wrong form of their. I knew what you were talking about haha. Clearly when i say assigned at birth, what i mean is obvious and clear with no room for misunderstanding. You’re just upset about the phrasing lol
Assigned at birth is a real term with a real meaning. That doesn’t change just cuz you prefer to say it a different way. So i don’t need you to correct me when I’m speaking with accuracy
Not really. You are certainly allowed to talk about trans people, I’m just informing you so you can speak with accuracy next time 👍🏼 your comment was confusing since it is talking about the opposite of what OP is talking about
As a white person, i can’t think of any reason i would need a white only space. I could see a black person feeling that way (for whatever reason). I don’t understand it but i don’t care
I got to that point because OP posed it as an idea in the original post. to which i said, i think it would not be necessary. If you disagree and think it’s a good idea, or that neither should exist at all, it’s fine, don’t cry about it to me. I just gave my two cents
I am a feminist, and i am pushing the opposite of that narrative. So that means feminism is overwhelmingly good right? No... it’s not that black and white. Some random college kids do not represent feminism. Likewise, when creepy incels who identify as MRAs do creepy incel shit, it is not representative of the MRA movement
True. So u think a male only workout environment would be less dramatic? Is it usually dramatic at your gym? I wouldn’t doubt it, i just haven’t been to the gym in years lol
Oh what was bufedads comment? I can’t find it. I just see him talking about segregation and stuff. Only comment i can see about a man wanting a men only workout experience is from OP, and i respect and appreciate his perspective on the issue. My initial comment i was wondering, would men feel safer or better in a men only workout space? I was looking for perspective on that, only OP provided any. Idc about whatever arguments people are desperately trying to relate. Are you needs met my good sir?
Well no, i just don’t think having unisex gyms for men counts as abuse. If you think it is similar to slavery then I’m not sure we will find middle ground
I don’t think “white people” are comparable to “women” lmao. Maybe a better example for you would be black people. I’m fine with black people having their own space if it makes them comfortable 👍🏼 i would not say the same for white people. So yes it does depend on the scenario for me
Uhhh that’s kind of like asking, would i support something that doesn’t make sense, as long as it makes sense to me? Lmao White only gyms don’t make sense to me so no i would not support that... haha
I don’t think most men need a “men only” workout area because they don’t care who’s watching them. Maybe women would really be more comfortable with a women’s only area (even if the benefits are just in their head) It’s the kind of issue i wonder, is it worth fighting? Maybe not. If some men do feel like they would be more comfortable working out without women around i would be curious to hear why. Tbh i barely work out so maybe i don’t have the best POV
No tht poster is littwslly a robot. Lmao. I’m not sure what idea they tore to shreds, they’re just posting info slightly related to key words we say lol and did not oppose anything i said
Well first of all, no the first article you linked does not describe anything you just said. Even if it did, it doesn’t mean much to me if a particular group of feminists have a dangerous idea. There are obviously many feminists doing incredible work, and many that are probably just secretly misandrists. I agree with pushing back on the bad ideas, not pushing back on feminism
More people sending me a copy and paste list of articles they haven’t even read 🤦♂️ how about you explain them, starting with the first article you linked
Well, that is not what those articles describe. The one in Israel is a lot more complicated than that. The article is about the complicity of the situation, rather than it being an article advocating for female rapists.
So uh did you even read what ever you decided to copy and paste here? I only bothered with the first 3 articles but uh.. they don’t help your case buddy
What is your article supposed to prove? and my statement is just based on the definition of feminism. I’ll admit maybe that definition is evolving in real time. But as of now I am a feminist as it means i am for equality of sexes
Well your example is bad since that is not the definition of a man... where as i provided the real definition of feminism. And APA may have a bad take... that doesn’t make it a feminist narrative. I think it would be more fair to say there are dangerous / misandrist feminists. Rather than saying feminism is dangerous. Or call it pseudo-feminism idk. All I can say it feminism has surely been a force for good
I don’t think it qualifies as a feminist idea just because a few disgruntled feminists talk about it. If it is not working towards equality of the sexes it is not a feminist idea
Denying male mental health issues is not feminism. So no that doesn’t make feminism dangerous. Likewise, some extreme posters on this sub doesn’t mean that it’s a dangerous sub
Idc if a sub is only for women to discuss women’s issues. And idc if women’s issues subs are mismanaged. we should stop holding ourselves to those low standards
I think it does not help to compare it to rape. Being accused of doing some horrible, and having something horrible done to u, are both serious problems, but they are not very similar. I think more progress would be made in regards to both if people discussed them as separate issues
It is a bit bizarre, i am usually not for that kind of thing, but it is a terrible sub. They hate men, people with mental illness, overweight ppl, unattractive ppl etc. I’m not really sure what the point is other than to spread hate
