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Well, let's say it's completely true - why such a need to put them down as a whole? A 60 year old hobo with a drinking problem is also damaged goods, who makes dozens of videos bashing such people? Nobody. And you know why? Because you know already you're doing far better than such a guy, and there's no need to focus on something that comes without saying. If you have a constant need to bash someone who isn't damaging you in any way, you do it cause you have a chip on your shoulder. You have an …
/r/ExRedPill07/01/20 05:59 PM
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Awesome post! I kinda knew about it (by noticing it in real life) but I had no idea there was an actual theory describing it. So basically married trp drag the wife back from the conflict phase into the bonding phase (which in itself is antithetical to growth), and yes, they do that using emotionally abusive tactics.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/19 08:46 AM
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TRP delivers thanks to common sense advice it appropriates and presents as something special, exclusive, and inherent to TRP only. On the other hand, the things that truly are inherent to TRP only are what fills you with bitterness.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/19 08:35 AM
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Now comes in MarriedTRP, which is comprised of redpillers, they have married and have meaningful relationships so wouldn't this be a contradiction to claim number 1? Over at MRP they advise men to view their wives as "the oldest kids in the house", to dismiss anything their wives say is bothering them, to not take any wives' concern seriously or even to not take it as true, to "dread" their wives by threatening to leave or cheat, they mock even any notion of honest open communication between the…
/r/ExRedPill12/07/19 08:30 AM
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Well, I'm really glad that I could help! As for this: She definitely doesn't like it but it doesn't affect her love for me - why are you asking? I asked because TRP would have you believe that by taking the red pill you become more attractive to women in general, and some of the red pillers, who aspire to be seen as positive, will talk about a man's role in guiding, loving, and providing stability to their gf/wife. However, in your situation, these beliefs are having a negative impact, opposite …
/r/ExRedPill03/07/19 02:59 PM
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It's not about "embracing this sub", since there is no ideology you're required to follow. All it takes is to see how destructive and fake TRP is.
/r/ExRedPill28/06/19 02:15 PM
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Have you considered couples therapy or individual therapy? Maybe, ideally, with a male (heterosexual) therapist, so when he's trying to get to show you a different point of view, you know that he truly understands what you're going through. Not that a female therapist wouldn't know, but it might be easier for you to know you're being understood on a man-to-man level so to speak. I know a couple that had a similar issue, they went to therapy during the first year of their relationship, and they'r…
/r/ExRedPill28/06/19 01:44 PM
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Don't worry, such fears are normal at that age. And even if you do end up single and stay a virgin, there are other things in life you can enjoy and other ways to feel fulfilled. It may appear as somewhat of a paradox, but you're more likely to find love (and sex) once you give up on looking for it, stop building your sense of self-worth identity around it, and dedicate your time and energy to other things you're passionate about. I know it's easier said than done, but the less you build your id…
/r/ExRedPill26/06/19 02:32 PM
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I agree with you overall, but there's one thing I must say - you're not an incel if you're a virgin at 18!!! I'd argue that being a virgin up to your early twenties is completely normal. Sure, a lot of people your age may be already having sex (lots of it) but just because you're a late bloomer doesn't make you an incel. Incel is more like a 30 year old virgin who acts really awkward or creepy around women, which disables him from having any actual contacts with women. Incel is not a teenage guy…
/r/ExRedPill26/06/19 07:13 AM
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Disingenuous red pill tactics at work! Or, if not that, you are so deluded with the red pill that you mixed it with wishful thinking and confirmation bias. And this confirmation bias is so strong it disables you from reading the entire sentence just because the first half appeared to confirm what you want to be true. Truly pathetic. Here's the whole quote, that you deliberately left out (deliberately and stupidly, as if we didn't read the post) I see a shocking number of posts about women who ar…
/r/ExRedPill14/06/19 02:03 PM
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Any woman who is not like that will never get through to you. At this point it seems like a girl who rejects mainstream culture would be a good match for you, but the problem may be that she embraces some counter culture that you don't like. Stay single if you need it though. If it's impossible to find what you truly want, accept that you won't find it. Don't resist it. People will tell you here "you're wrong/generalizing/bla bla", or "there are good women out there" etc, but if your experience …
/r/ExRedPill12/05/19 12:48 AM
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I'm sorry you're going through this. I disagree with your ideas but I won't bash you or even downvote your posts because you obviously want to change. Here's my idea on how you can change it: Step 1: understand that there are many women with misandric views that learned to have those views from experience with men. I'm not saying this to bash men (I think those women and men like you are equally wrong actually) - I'm just saying it to give you another perspective. There are women who got into re…
/r/ExRedPill10/05/19 08:46 AM
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This!!! I find it incredible that they don't notice it, all the RP techniques that work on women (and because of which they lose respect for women) work on men as well.
/r/ExRedPill01/04/19 03:42 PM
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P.S. Also, I'd like to add that "red pill dating advice" that truly works on women - works on men too. It's playing into human psychology and not "female hypergamous nature" as they would have you believe. They claim men are imune to those tactics, but just ask any girl what happens if she starts losing interest in a guy who only seemed to be mildly into her - more often than not, he'll get more passionate. What is that, if not "dread game" working on men? Even though it's not being consciously …
/r/ExRedPill13/03/19 09:16 AM
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Precisely. And not only that it's generalizing all women - but if women were to focus on all the statistics of negative male behavior, it would sound just as bad. Female version of the red pill could be just as based on facts (science and statistics) and just as hateful towards the opposite gender.
/r/ExRedPill13/03/19 09:09 AM
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Hmmm you know when I was younger and I liked a guy who wouldn't approach me, I though guys had it better because they can just approach a girl and know instantly if she's into him, instead of sitting around, waiting and trying to "interpret" his behavior - or making a move and potentially being considered easy. I'm not saying this to compete "who has it worse", but to tell you that it's a very real possibility to entirely grow out of this "resentment" you have now, and to be in an entirely diffe…
/r/ExRedPill08/02/19 12:14 AM
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I'm not sure if society empowers single women. Perhaps it depends on where you live. In a more conservative circle of people, single women are often shamed and considered insane if nobody wanted to marry them. While men can be single for a long time and not only nobody will shame them, but they will find it very easy to shame single childless women older than 30 (even though the men doing the shaming may be well over 40). And nobody will find it absurd. But then again, it depends where you are. …
/r/ExRedPill07/02/19 03:21 PM
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Do you have a guy friend who has more experience? Ask him for advice, maybe he has seen you around girls and he knows where you go wrong. You said you did manage to attract some girls, but nothing came out of it. From what I can tell, it seems like you're not relaxed enough (or at all) when it comes to girls and when you're around girls. I know it's hard to relax when you're facing something you find so important... I guess that's one of the challenges of life.
/r/ExRedPill07/02/19 08:45 AM
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Overall good advice but many women feel the same way about men. I think the only difference is that women feel unworthy if they don't get love and commitment, and there's a far greater stigma on women who never married than on men who never married. I think men maybe focus more on being able to attract as many women as possible, that's where the difference may be. Women don't really need to make an effort there. That could be the reason why you think women are not focused on men. All of that bei…
/r/ExRedPill07/02/19 08:39 AM
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but above all else, emotionally unavailable, aloof, and secretive about their feelings. The thing I just can't understand is how do they not see - it works the same way on men just as much as it works on women People are drawn to what they can't have. It's a rather normal thing, and one of the reasons why reverse psychology works. The more you have to fight for something, the more it engages your mind and feelings, the more passion is gonna build up. Add any sort of dysfunction or self-loathing …
/r/ExRedPill01/02/19 11:56 AM
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Yes because if you're not a perfect angel, you surely can't be human (with flaws being a part of that), you must be a demon instead. TRP men deserve evil women, and I surely hope that 1) there are as many evil women as there are red pill guys, and 2) they all find each other and end up with each other. Furthermore if we could send them all to live in isolation on a desert island and not deal with their shit, that would be nice.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/19 11:41 AM
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+1 You have no idea how lucky you are that it's just a relatively short relationship, not a marriage. Cutting toxic people out of our lives is like a blessing, and you don't have any serious reasons to not dump him. You didn't spend years of your life with him, you don't live with him, you're not married, have no kids, no property that is in both your names, none of you is financially dependant on the other... you have the perfect conditions to ditch him and 0 reasons to ever look back. Otherwis…
/r/ExRedPill18/01/19 01:51 AM
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Do you realize how pathetic this "consolation" sounds to most women? If he's only faithful cause nobody would want to be with him, that's almost like emotional adultery. It means that the moment anyone who'd want him comes along, he'll cheat.
/r/ExRedPill18/01/19 01:29 AM
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Another illogical argument: on one hand, women will divorce you and take all your money through child support and/or get welfare because they're single moms. On the other hand, single moms are looking for someone to provide for their kids because they're broke. You can't have both... or you can, but then you can't generalize (which they always do)
/r/ExRedPill30/12/18 01:03 AM
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The fact that their advice such as dread game, abundance mentality, holding frame etc works on men as well - and they claim it's something that only works on women. Furthermore, I was always disgusted by having to manipulate someone I'm supposed to love, so all those rules, even though they might bring male attention, were never something that made me satisfied with that relationship. Other than that, I've met way too many shitty men to fall for the idea that most women are evil and irrational w…
/r/ExRedPill30/12/18 12:57 AM
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Yes and when a man does it to a woman, her female friends will tell her stuff like "men are dogs" or "you made a mistake when you let him know you care"
/r/ExRedPill26/10/18 10:10 PM
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Men do it to women too. The only reason you see more shitty behavior from the opposite sex than from your own is that you date the opposite sex and not your own, and you're mostly friends with people of the same sex who also date the opposite sex. This goes for both men and women. And to answer your last question - it's not that just that she was not the right person for you - it's that she's not ready to be right for anyone yet. And to avoid getting with such girls, you should first work on bec…
/r/ExRedPill26/10/18 09:56 PM
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I won't hold my breath for TRP to give up on that idea though. It's only science if it provides them with an excuse to bash or control women. If not, it's a bunch of blue pilled lies. /s
/r/ExRedPill26/10/18 09:47 PM
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I want to be the perfect female so no man will ever cheat on me. You are motivated by fear. You need to resolve this by yourself, and not look outwards for help. Because the truth is, some people will cheat even when everything is going great. Some will remain faithful even when bad times come. If you want loyalty you need to find the second type of person, and more importantly, you need to be able to truly connect with that type of man. And the best way to do it is to start by accepting yoursel…
/r/ExRedPill15/09/18 07:08 AM
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I have no idea if these studies are spot on or not, and maybe there are studies that claim the opposite but I would prefer to focus on something else - you say you want to rid yourself of red pill thoughts. Great. If these studies were true, what would the red pill conclusion about them be? Probably something along the lines - women need to be under male control in order to avoid adultery (which leads to divorce, which, on a larger scale, ruins the society)... Now let's flip it - if studies that…
/r/ExRedPill14/09/18 11:09 PM
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No it doesn't. If anything, it's even better cause it shows your capacity to change for the better.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/18 10:53 PM
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As a woman I can tell you that being feminine / nurturing feminine qualities was never so much about doing this or that, it wasn't really about taking one action to attain a certain goal - but instead it was about coming back to myself. Removing the layers of being told this or that by others, and getting in touch with myself. It was only from that point that I could take a meaningful action towards any goal. I don't see why it should be any different for a man. As a man, masculinity is already …
/r/ExRedPill14/09/18 10:37 PM
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It could be that I didn't interpret your point well. In the second half of your post, you list why you never went into TRP, so I figured that in the first half you listed the positions in which you agree with TRP. And TRP position on marriage laws seems to favor laws from the past when women were property and physical / sexual abuse of wives was not a crime. Not saying ALL those guys agree with it, but I did run into it the most.
/r/ExRedPill10/08/18 12:32 PM
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I didn't read that from you. You said however that you like red pill views on marriage/divorce laws, and it's very common to see in those circles that marriage laws need to be as they were in the past. Again, if there is an article/video by a prominent red pill content creator who speaks against those ideas, I'd like to see that. Just to make it clear, I get your point and I agree, those who are guilty for divorce shouldn't be privileged by divorce courts.
/r/ExRedPill09/08/18 03:22 PM
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Where did you get this from ? If a woman cheats, she deserves to pay for child support and kids should go to father. Today, it is the same outcome for different behaviour. I've seen these comments in various manosphere/red pill circles online - we should go back to marriage laws from the 19th century, women should be property of their husbands, marital rape shouldn't be a crime, hitting your wife shouldn't be a crime (she's your property after all), etc... not saying ALL of manosphere thinks tha…
/r/ExRedPill08/08/18 09:34 PM
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1) Ok, that's your personal choice. I hope you're honest enough to also only have sex in LTR but again - it's your preference. 2) I have an impression that standards get "higher" with women who are single for a long time or single after 30. Or, to be more precise, the standards get more specific. For example, if the guy has a habit that irritates her, she's out of there. So it becomes harder to find the "right guy", because there are less and less people who meet the specific standards. It's pos…
/r/ExRedPill08/08/18 04:25 PM
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Isn't there some book called something like "Men are from Mars and women are from Venus"...? It's odd recommending a book I haven't read, but from what I can tell you may wanna check it out.
/r/ExRedPill25/07/18 08:46 AM
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I think the number doesn't influence the person later on in life, but that people from a more conservative environment are less likely to sleep with many people and less likely to get divorced. Correlation, not causation. I understand the argument that people who develop a habit to sleep around will just keep on being promiscuous which is incompatible with LTR and marriage, but I think it can be different from one person to another. Some people truly never change, some do. If you are in a relati…
/r/ExRedPill26/06/18 09:55 PM
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In the past, kings and powerful men were a tiny minority. Furthermore - if a young single woman meets a guy who has kids with multiple women, and decides to have a kid with him, is she keeping her high status (or upgrading to a higher status)? If you went back in time, to an era when things were more traditional, would you want your daughter around men with multiple kids from multiple women? Would you marry her off to such a man? Keep in mind that kings and aristocrats who could afford to live t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 03:27 PM
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You're welcome :) just keep it up, even if it's baby steps. And good luck! :)
/r/ExRedPill17/06/18 06:37 PM
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Meditation surely isn't easy, and if you're willing to give it a try, keep in mind that it's a very slow process - that should help you deal with occasional frustration and/or boredom. Also, when you feel frustrated or bored, remind yourself that it's normal. It's normal to have ups and downs as well. There are plenty of guided meditations on youtube, but if that's not your cup of tea maybe you could just try focusing on your breath for a couple of minutes - but do it every day. It's more effect…
/r/ExRedPill17/06/18 06:03 PM
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I think very few men fall strictly in one of these 2 categories. I think most men have qualities of both "alpha" and "beta", and I think certain "alpha" qualities are present in a vast majority of men. The way I see it, there's literally no dumber way to classify men than alpha vs. beta.
/r/ExRedPill17/06/18 10:29 AM
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I see... so, you have to find a way to work on yourself. If this isn't too "out there" for you, I would recommend daily meditation. Just keep in mind that it's a very slow process, but after a while it will enable you to see your issues in a very objective way, and to get over them permanently. It's an experience that has the power to transform you, but it requires patience and perseverance. And months can go by before you see the first effects. If you don't like the thought of practicing medita…
/r/ExRedPill17/06/18 10:20 AM
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Maybe she's not the right person for you? I hate to say this to people I don't know, but speaking from personal experience - if you're otherwise not a jealous and possesive kind of guy, but you just can't trust someone, maybe you just sense it's not the real thing... Now we're kinda leaving TRP territory with this, but I really mean it. If you're normally not bothered by it, but it bothers you with her - maybe she's the problem? I think you need to take a break from overthinking it, and definite…
/r/ExRedPill16/06/18 11:22 PM
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I've seen several couples where an insecure guy found a hot gf he sees as "out of his league" (doesn't matter if she is or not, the guy thinks she is). Every single time the insecure guy would cheat on her with an uglier woman (and otherwise "lower league"), and then dump his hot gf... because for him, the ugly woman is some kind of a comfort zone, where he can be the alpha male. Tbh I think there's a much higher chance that you'd cheat on her for this reason. Doesn't have to be the case, but if…
/r/ExRedPill15/06/18 10:20 PM
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1) it can be true in some cases. 2) it's equally true for men (women worry a lot about not appearing clingy or desperate - this would never be the case if 100% security in a relationship was attractive by default to men). 3) it's mostly true for emotionally immature people. If you give your gf security and she leaves, she did you a favor. The lesson in it for you, if you're looking for something serious, wouldn't be to give less security to your next girlfriend, but to ask yourself what got you …
/r/ExRedPill27/05/18 07:11 AM
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I really hope it helps.
/r/ExRedPill24/05/18 06:13 PM
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What bugs you is what bugs women as well. I read a study that stated that over 95% of men who are married or in long term relationships would cheat (have casual sex with another woman) if they were absolutely sure their wife/ gf would not find out. If there was a female misandric version of the red pill, this would be used as a gospel to promote the idea that men must be controlled all the time. Or some crap like that. Same goes for looks. If anything, I think women are even more self conscious …
/r/ExRedPill23/05/18 07:18 PM
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Maybe you should look more into couples where the woman was on the pill and ask them for experience. My friend was prescribed the pill as a treatment for her acne problems. She met her now husband while on the pill, they moved in together and later got married - all the while she was on the pill. She stopped taking it recently and the biggest change is that her libido got stronger. It's possible that the change isn't always so favorable, but I guess it's at least one reassuring example.
/r/ExRedPill21/05/18 01:31 PM
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The only thing that's exclusive about the red pill is that the red pill is the only one targeting the unheard males of the west in 2018. Sadly.
/r/ExRedPill21/05/18 07:04 AM
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Great point! I think the main issue is that feminism is used to counter their arguments. It's like trying to save someone who's in a satanic cult by repeating some fundamentalist christian talking points to them. Not only they're programed to dismiss anything you say, but also there's a big chance they got where they are cause they were fed up with your arguments to begin with. I would assume the main thing is to let them know that there is some truth to red pill, but that truth is not exclusive…
/r/ExRedPill17/05/18 08:18 AM
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I'm gonna say something that may be awful but here it goes - if you're not looking for a serious relationship then you don't even have to mention your illness. Warning: if this ever becomes a habit or a pattern for you, it's gonna be extremely hard to break it and be honest from day one when you decide to look for a serious relationship. And it will also be hard (probably even harder) to be honest a couple of months later, after a relationship already started leading to something serious. I unde…
/r/ExRedPill13/05/18 11:00 PM
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If the 80/20 rule was true, 80% of men would be virgins, or only have sex a couple of times, or only have sex with prostitutes. Also 80% of women would never get married because the 20% of men can only marry 20% of women. Does this seem like an accurate description of reality?
/r/ExRedPill11/05/18 09:42 PM
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I know that overcoming the shallow type of relationship can be a challenge, and many people never overcome it, they even marry the person they will occasionally lie, manipulate and in some instances even cheat on. It can get you very disappointed in people, I know, I've been there. Again, speaking from personal experience, the true connection seems to come only when you're very clear with what you want or don't want. Since you can easily recognize these mind games, step one would be zero toleran…
/r/ExRedPill07/05/18 10:24 AM
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I think you should do some thinking and observation of human nature itself. On your own. Another thing is to understand that many of the red pill tactics work when women apply them as well. TRP ignoring this is a massive lie by omission. I think most of toxicity comes from there, men thinking how they need to be doing all that work, and a woman just needs to sit there and be pretty. For getting men to make a first move on her, maybe (but even then not entirely! With bad body language a woman can…
/r/ExRedPill07/05/18 08:57 AM
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Ohhh ok, I get it... in that case I believe other people's advice may be more useful to you :)
/r/ExRedPill04/05/18 07:53 PM
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I like other peoples replies so I won't repeat what they said, I'll just add my perspective... These ideas are coming to your mind despite you logically seeing the reality that's much different from what they claim? Well then these ideas speak to a less logical and more subconscious part of you. Reading their articles, watching their videos and ultimately thinking those thoughts are activities that create some emotional or hormonal reaction in you. If you keep going back to it, it's because the …
/r/ExRedPill04/05/18 10:29 AM
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Oh you are very hard on yourself. This is not related to the red pill now, but generally speaking - you're still very young, you have plenty of chances to fix your life. Not necessarily for the sake of friendships or relationships, just for the sake of being good company to yourself. As for the red pill, also discovered it through politics (though I'm a woman so red pill dating advice doesn't really apply to me anyway). I always viewed myself as antifeminist because I genuinely don't have a beef…
/r/ExRedPill03/05/18 08:10 PM
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At the age of 17 you're more mature and reasonable than "red pilled" men in their late 30ies. The whole "nice guy" thing is not defined enough. It's bad if being a "nice guy" means you let people push you around (which doesn't seem to be your issue, I'm just saying it is an issue in general). It's bad if it means you are not comfortable around a girl you like, not assertive enough to show initiative with her. It's also bad if you put women on a pedestal - that's what the red pill gets right and …
/r/ExRedPill02/05/18 09:38 PM
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Your story does remind me a bit of my own, since my relationship with my parents has always been similar - it's all good and functions well, but rarely goes to a lot of depth so to speak. Who knows, maybe some of the "clinging" comes from there. I understand why you might be scared of being alone. But look at it this way - and this is what I told myself some time ago - if I'm gonna grow old alone, then I need to be prepared for it. From "technical" stuff like where am I gonna live etc, to being …
/r/ExRedPill02/05/18 04:45 PM
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Speaking from personal experience here... if you cling to love in any way - rushing things is one of the forms of clinging to love - the best remedy is to accept the possibility of growing old alone and never finding love. Or in general, to accept the possibility of your greatest fear related to love coming true. And when I say accept, I don't mean "be happy for it as you would if you were happily married" - chances for that are rather low. I mean accept it as you would accept a bad situation if…
/r/ExRedPill02/05/18 02:28 PM
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Yes, I get what you mean, like there's a force of habit pushing these people to view a relationship like "oh well, if it's not working, I can just move on". And of course I understand that people around me are not the whole world. But it's still very hard to accept a study that counters everything I experienced as if it was the word of god. Maybe it's not wrong per se - but it may just not be taking some other factors into consideration.
/r/ExRedPill29/04/18 01:25 PM
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Same. I honestly don't know if I was just lucky to encounter so very few misogynists in my life, or is it that there are so many, but they're too scared to say it. That being said, I did meet some womanizers who apply certain principles of the red pill, but it seems to me that it just comes naturally for them, they probably never even heard of TRP. And an even bigger difference is that they're not bitter and obsessed with misogyny. Maybe they even do view women as lesser than them (I don't know)…
/r/ExRedPill28/04/18 07:26 PM
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I really don't want to say that a scientific study is untrue because it goes against every example I see in real life, but I'm having a rather hard time believing this. To be more exact, what I see around me is that people who marry young are more likely to get a divorce, and who marry later in life (late twenties and older) seem to not only stay together but have a better relationship overall. Of course it's not directly related to partner count. One of the best marriages I know is my best frie…
/r/ExRedPill28/04/18 07:11 PM
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You should totally NOT "divorce rape" him. I am not quite sure how divorce goes financially, but take as little as possible for child support and that's it. Without "divorce rape" he'll have nothing to whine about. Or (a more likely scenario) he's gonna blow it out of proportion and have to lie to himself and others about an evil woman ruining his life. As they say "Love your enemies, it really pisses them off".
/r/ExRedPill24/04/18 07:40 AM
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I think that they use their focus on women (through obsessive thinking and/or hatred) as a substitute for the female companionship. It's basically what fills the place once held by women in their minds. For MGTOWs this is rather obvious, but it's similar for other brands of red pillers as well. Let's say that they have this 100% empty space for the female companionship in their minds. One night stands or casual relationships may fill it up to 20-30% A comitted relationship or even marriage may g…
/r/ExRedPill24/04/18 12:55 AM
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I had a coworker who was a bit of a conspiracy theorist, and she told me that BDSM is going to get some kind of a marketing push in order to make it seem like the regular sexuality. I have no idea where she got that, lol. Other than that, I think that people will have fantasies about the forbidden fruit. I think books like that are way more likely to be popular in an overly feminist environment, simply because such relationship is a taboo. I also have a hypothesis that cuck porn is more popular …
/r/ExRedPill21/04/18 11:22 AM
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