Limerent2024 Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
296	No, 80% of women are not sleeping with 20% of men		Limerent2024	/r/ExRedPill	25/05/25 07:36 PM
45	80/20: Actually, “Stacy” is sleeping with a lot of different “Chad” men		Limerent2024	/r/ExRedPill	31/05/25 05:21 PM

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
5	How do you guys explain the “16% of young women are virgins while a third of young men are virgins” statistic It’s annoying the number of people on Reddit who downvote “what is your source for that” questions. I cite my sources and I back up what I say with solid facts.	/r/ExRedPill	16/08/25 04:23 PM
5	How do you guys explain the “16% of young women are virgins while a third of young men are virgins” statistic Hmmm, can you provide the link? On the NFSG page, the most recent surveys are 2022-2023, and I looked at those numbers: Page 249 of the survey shows a 5.7% male virginity rate (vaginal intercourse 253 out of 4371); page 254 of the survey shows a 21% male virginity rate; and page 253 (“OPPSEXANY”) shows a 20% male virginity rate. The lowest male virginity rate seen is because they are only counting people in face to face interviews, while the other numbers can be computer interviews too, and the …	/r/ExRedPill	16/08/25 04:10 PM
8	How do you guys explain the “16% of young women are virgins while a third of young men are virgins” statistic I’m so sorry that happened to you and your friends.	/r/ExRedPill	16/08/25 03:51 PM
2	How do you guys explain the “16% of young women are virgins while a third of young men are virgins” statistic As a man who has never had sex outside of a lifetime monogamous partnership, let me tell you, it’s hard to find a girl who both wants me sexually and is someone I would marry. I have had multiple women who have wanted me sexually, but they weren’t people I would marry so I passed. The flip side of the coin is that I can easily make female platonic friends, including girls I would marry but who don’t like me that way (I wouldn’t marry them if they’re not interested in me).	/r/ExRedPill	16/08/25 03:47 PM
4	How do you guys explain the “16% of young women are virgins while a third of young men are virgins” statistic OK, some evidence to refute those points: Both male and female virginity have been going up. In 2011, male virginity was 13%, female 11%. In 2022, it was 22% male virginity and 18% female virginity Also from that post, the number of partners the most promiscuous men is going up, but the same is true for the women Chad harems are very rare. I post a lot of evidence about this here Here’s a really good video debunking 80/20. Also, there is evidence that the sex recession is ending.	/r/ExRedPill	16/08/25 03:44 PM
1	'The Trouble With Wanting Men' That NYT article is such a train wreck I can not help but comment: This woman does not represent the majority of women. According to the NSFG 2022 data under 15% of women, when asked, report having 10 or more lifetime sex partners. This woman has had sex with a man within an hour of meeting him for the first time. This woman has a friend who had sex with a lawyer within the first three dates. The writer was married, but openly had sex with other guys in the marriage. She fell in love with anothe…	/r/MensRights	24/07/25 01:35 PM
5	Thoughts on the whole “20% of men get 80% of women” line? Here is a better version of that refutation of the Pew study.	/r/ExRedPill	21/07/25 01:34 PM
7	Thoughts on the whole “20% of men get 80% of women” line? More like those women he was bringing home every week did that with a lot of different men. The men who get a “disproportionate amount of action” get it from women who also get a “disproportionate amount of action”.	/r/ExRedPill	21/07/25 12:51 PM
8	Thoughts on the whole “20% of men get 80% of women” line? Here is some updated information: There was a bit of a sexual recession in the 2010s during the MeToo movement, but that seems to have ended post-COVID My own analysis of 2011 and 2022 numbers shows that it’s not 80/20, it looks more like promiscuous men sleep with promiscuous women People that advocate for 80/20 don’t have objective data to support their assertions.	/r/ExRedPill	21/07/25 12:34 PM
9	Thoughts on the whole “20% of men get 80% of women” line? Oh yeah, I know that graph. It comes from a 2009 OkCupid study which “Red Pill” men bring up over and over, usually without attribution. What “Red Pill” men conveniently don’t mention is that the old OkCupid blog the chart comes from shows that women are more likely to message men they don’t find super attractive.	/r/ExRedPill	21/07/25 12:25 PM
3	Thoughts on the whole “20% of men get 80% of women” line? Indeed! A lot of the “red pill” delusions are people selling some BS “dating guide” (e.g. you have to act just right based on this $500 guide or the girl will reject you)	/r/ExRedPill	21/07/25 12:22 PM
11	Thoughts on the whole “20% of men get 80% of women” line? I posted about this. The whole 80/20 thing is bullshit. What’s really going on is about 20% of both and women have the majority of lifetime sex partners (which means that 20% of people have a lot of sex partners, but they are all sleeping with the same men/women).	/r/ExRedPill	21/07/25 11:51 AM
5	Is it true that the whole “height thing”, especially about men, isn’t really a thing in real life? Or, not as much of a thing as on the internet? According to the research [1], a 5'4" man has about 9 lifetime sexual partners on average; a 6'5" man has about 12 lifetime partners. A 5'7" man has about as many lifetime sex partners as a 6'0" man. So while being shorter makes things slightly harder, it doesn’t by any stretch of the imagination make things impossible. [1] David A. Frederick and Brooke N. Jenkins, “Height and Body Mass on the Mating Market: Associations With Number of Sex Partners and Extra-Pair Sex Among Heterosexual Men and W…	/r/ExRedPill	12/07/25 10:56 AM
2	Robert Sapolsky, a neurobiologist professor, says that humans are half-way in between being pair-bonding/monogamous and competitive/only a minority of men finds mates - what does people here think of this and does it suggest that RP isn't completely incorrect about hypergamy? The extent of sexual dimorphisim does contain clues to our sexual evolutionary past Animal kingdom arguments don’t work when arguing about human sexual behavior because primates have highly variable sexual behavior. If we’re going to make the case that 80/20 is in play with humans because that’s how chimps and other animals do it, which is one of the arguments the book Female Choice (by one Stoverock) makes to argue for an 80/20 ratio, maybe we’re more like bonobos where pretty much every male g…	/r/ExRedPill	06/07/25 10:03 PM
10	Robert Sapolsky, a neurobiologist professor, says that humans are half-way in between being pair-bonding/monogamous and competitive/only a minority of men finds mates - what does people here think of this and does it suggest that RP isn't completely incorrect about hypergamy? Keep in mind that a lot of evolutionary psychologists parrot a lot of RedPill/BlackPill talking points without really having the evidence to support their view, or basing their evidence on small, isolated studies (Google “Ovulatory Shift Hypothesis” for an example of EvoPsychs parroting a RedPill talking point, only later to be shown that the evidence supporting the talking point wasn’t reliable). My own research shows that the 80/20 rule parroted on Reddit and other social media is by and large…	/r/ExRedPill	06/07/25 08:49 PM
1	80/20: Actually, “Stacy” is sleeping with a lot of different “Chad” men Let me address the “I’m slightly below average height so no woman will want to date me” myth you parroted. According to the research [1], a 5'7" man has about 9 lifetime sexual partners on average; a 6'5" man has about 12 lifetime partners. So while being shorter makes things slightly harder, it doesn’t by any stretch of the imagination make things impossible. [1] David A. Frederick and Brooke N. Jenkins, “Height and Body Mass on the Mating Market: Associations With Number of Sex Partners and Ex…	/r/ExRedPill	05/07/25 02:50 PM
3	The Irrational male book Based on my analysis of the scientific data and my boots on the ground experience having a lot of female platonic friends, the reason why the “red pill” tells men to become avoidant is because avoidant emotionally unavailable men are appealing to a certain type of women who is sexually promiscuous, avoidant, and emotionally unavailable herself.	/r/ExRedPill	21/06/25 05:13 PM
6	The Irrational male book OK, let me just confront one BS quote from this book, which is in so many words that a woman would rather share an “alpha” than be with a “beta”. Actually, Rollo is quoting the Book of Pook when making this infamous quote, and Pook of course never referenced his claims. Now, I have a lot of female platonic friends, and a couple of them have been in relationships with men who they knew also had other female sex partners. In all of these cases, the women were really unhappy in the relationship. Th…	/r/ExRedPill	20/06/25 02:50 PM
2	No, 80% of women are not sleeping with 20% of men I am aware of the bottleneck we had about 8,000 years ago where a lot more women reproduced than men. The reason for this bottleneck was probably not “Women only slept with Chad” (the “red pill”/“black pill” version of the story), but much more likely a group of men won some wars, the proceeded to kill the men and rape the women. See also: Genghis Khan, where we know how people with that one man’s genentics reproduced with so many women.	/r/ExRedPill	18/06/25 11:21 AM
-3	If RP was really interested in helping women... Can you link to a study that does normalize for those factors?	/r/ExRedPill	14/06/25 06:15 PM
-6	If RP was really interested in helping women... Of course it doesn’t.	/r/ExRedPill	14/06/25 10:51 AM
4	80/20: Actually, “Stacy” is sleeping with a lot of different “Chad” men The numbers indicate a lot of overlap in the real world; a certain kind of man can sleep with a lot of women, but only women who are themselves promiscuous.	/r/ExRedPill	31/05/25 06:26 PM
3	80/20: Actually, “Stacy” is sleeping with a lot of different “Chad” men A “lifetime sex partner” here is the total number of opposite sex partners someone has had in their lifetime. Overall, in the 2022 report, assuming no overlap (“Eskimo brothers”), we have 32580 women that 4128 men reported having sex with. The most promiscuous 160 men have had together about 9600 partners total. Those 160 men are 3.9% of all men, but they have had 29.5% of all partners that all men have reported having.	/r/ExRedPill	31/05/25 06:07 PM
6	80/20: Actually, “Stacy” is sleeping with a lot of different “Chad” men In the interest of science, here is the Lua source code which converted the raw NSFG numbers in to x% of men/women had y% of overall opposite sex partners figures. #!/usr/bin/env lua -- Let’s get the real 2011 numbers for lifetime sex partners -- This is NSFG2011Men[#female partners] = #men with that many female partners NSFG2011Men = {} NSFG2011Men[0] = 628 NSFG2011Men[1] = 565 NSFG2011Men[2] = 337 NSFG2011Men[3] = 317 NSFG2011Men[4] = 313 NSFG2011Men[5] = 328 NSFG2011Men[6] = 272 NSFG2011Men[7…	/r/ExRedPill	31/05/25 05:23 PM
7	They think Nature is deterministic of human behavior and actions well. In plain English: Gorillas and chimpanzees have sex in such a way that a version of the discredited 80/20 ratio is in play, so this is used as an argument human mating is the same way. But there are factors at play with humans which make us different than those animals. Also, if we’re going to make the case that 80/20 is in play with humans because that’s how chimps and other animals do it, which is one of the arguments the book Female Choice (by one Stoverock) makes to argue for an 80/20 ratio,…	/r/ExRedPill	28/05/25 11:19 AM
4	No, 80% of women are not sleeping with 20% of men I’m researching the 2000s-2010s sexual recession and why it happened. I know there are EvoPsych scientists out there who use this sexual recession to argue the RedPill/Incel point that fewer men are having sex with more partners, and still write papers making this point even though more recent evidence points to it no longer existing.	/r/ExRedPill	28/05/25 01:00 AM
4	No, 80% of women are not sleeping with 20% of men Another EvoPsych “scientist” who parrots Incel ideology in is one Mads Larsen. Reading his papers is really creepy.	/r/ExRedPill	27/05/25 02:28 PM
2	No, 80% of women are not sleeping with 20% of men There was only one broken link, and all of the links are secure https links. I have fixed the broken link.	/r/ExRedPill	26/05/25 04:01 PM
10	No, 80% of women are not sleeping with 20% of men In the interest of science, I will post the source code of the Monte Carlo simulator right here. It’s written in a language called Lua (used by Adobe Lightroom Classic, Civilization 5, the Wikipedia for running scripts, anywhere where you need a tiny and fast scripting language): #!/usr/bin/env lua -- If 80/20 is true, then run a montecarlo to determine the partner -- count for men given we know the women partner count in -- https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5795598/table/T1/ -- Let’s loo…	/r/ExRedPill	26/05/25 01:23 PM
1	What if the 80/20 Rule Isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but a tool to Understand who we're actually compatible with? Update: The 80/20 rule is bullshit	/r/ExRedPill	26/05/25 08:49 AM
8	No, 80% of women are not sleeping with 20% of men Point being, using two different models where 80% of the girls have sex with 20% of the guys, we see in simulations a bathtub curve where guys either have sex with very few women or a lot of women. The real numbers, on the other hand, are not a bathtub curve but are instead a fairly linear drop off, where it’s more unlikely a guy will have more partners.	/r/ExRedPill	26/05/25 08:28 AM
8	No, 80% of women are not sleeping with 20% of men Update: I have made the function where the chance of having sex with a woman is a polynomial (it has to be a six degree polynomial before 80% of the women sleep with 20% of the men). Again, when that happens, 60% of the men are virgins or have slept with only one woman, and the numbers are not at all like the numbers in PMC5795598. Here is the numbers if precisely 20% of the men have sex with precisely 80% of the women (to be exact, every time a woman decides to have sex with a man in the model,…	/r/ExRedPill	26/05/25 08:21 AM
7	No, 80% of women are not sleeping with 20% of men That’s a very interesting set of data, and I’m writing some code to come up with a Monte Carlo simulation which generates the same numbers as seen in https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5795598/table/T1/ I can tell you right now it’s not 80/20, because a strict 80/20 split (where 20% of the men get 80% of the sex, and 80% of the men get 20% of the sex, and a given women will choose a man to have sex with randomly, choosing “chad” 80% of the time and “betabux” 20% of the time) has 50% or so …	/r/ExRedPill	26/05/25 02:01 AM
28	No, 80% of women are not sleeping with 20% of men Let’s compare the sexless rate of men and women here in the 2020s. While there was a disturbing gap between the number of men having sex compared to the number of women having sex in the mid-2010s, that gap now appears to be gone with only about 12% of women and men being sexless in 2022 (So the real figure is more like 88/89 instead of 80/20), and, indeed, slightly more women are sexless. To quote that article: Figure 3 breaks down rates of sexlessness over the past 10 years by gender for adult…	/r/ExRedPill	25/05/25 08:18 PM
2	A guy is brainwashing young men with the “dual-mating strategy” theory — how do I debunk it? Oh yeah, a slight variant on the now-discredited Ovulatory shift hypothesis, which claims women want to sleep with, errr, “chad” when ovulating and sleep with their, errr, “beta provider” when they are not ovulating. As per the Wikipedia, “A newer 2018 review does not show women changing the type of men they desire at different times in their fertility cycle”.	/r/ExRedPill	22/03/25 01:41 PM
7	Why redpill is skeptical? Indeed	/r/ExRedPill	19/03/25 07:25 AM
2	Unpopular opinion: if you’re secure, the friendzone doesn’t exist I presume you are referring to this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55malyvY5-U	/r/ExRedPill	19/01/25 10:39 AM
5	Celebrities disprove the red pill ideology This is a version of the Scotsman fallacy. As per the Wikipedia: “No true Scotsman or appeal to purity is an informal fallacy in which one modifies a prior claim in response to a counterexample by asserting the counterexample is excluded by definition.”	/r/ExRedPill	16/01/25 06:59 AM