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Im not asking you to defer to anything. Im talking about racial issues and i have my opinion on it and you have yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 08:08 AM
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Except i am more qualified. What a ridiculous assertion lmao. You might be okay deferring to a white person on black racial issues but im not. And i was referring to experiences of black ppl in predominantly white western countries, where the biggest impact discrimination faced IS race.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:47 AM
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lmao you live in a deluded world
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 09:36 PM
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this is one of the socially maladjusted women who will say it is creepy. Ignore them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 09:23 PM
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The only women who cry about it are a handful of socially maladjusted women on reddit. Just ignore them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 09:14 PM
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Women at least usually don't actively hurt men. lmao. I have no idea how anyone can say this with a straight face.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 09:00 PM
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Women love men for what they can do for them, attraction is something separate. Ideally you want both,
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:58 PM
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haha yes i'm sure women are think about mens sperm quality lmao, I've never in my entire life heard a woman even mention this. But sure, they are all doing sperm quality calculations in their head when they meet a guy, of course they are. ​ He might be 6 ft and handsome and rich but if i have a child with him it has 1.0% chance of autism instead of 0.2% chance, so i'm gonna go have kids with that 25 year old over there. ​ Women are all definitely doing these calculations. 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:51 PM
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and the window of getting an inexperienced or virgin gf is closed by then. ​ Tbh i've never understood the infatuation with being with a virgin. When 20 my first partner had at least 3 before me and i presume my subsequent partners have been more than that, I don't really care to ask. Dating in your early 20s is still no guarantee you will get an "inexperienced or virgin gf" if that's what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 12:10 AM
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This seems quite condescending to think most women don't already know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 09:43 PM
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26.4 BMI is literally fat though? Very few women are muscular enough to not be fat at over 26 BMI.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 09:40 PM
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the difference is so minimal between someone who is 25 and 35, that it really isn't even worth considering.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 09:19 PM
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Only if they want to. Probably makes sense on some level. There are high value guys who are 35+ they would be able to lock down when they are in their early 20s, but they won't be able to when they are in their 30s, but there will still be other men around so it's not the end of the world. The real question is should 35+ men date 20-25 year olds. I'm 35, 25 is the lowest I'd go, any lower than that, and I just feel they are too much like a child in terms of behaviour. 20 year old is just no. Sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 09:14 PM
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The OP mistakenly quoted a stat, and someone else corrected the mistake. There no longer is a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 01:30 PM

It’s implied that these “beta” men are mostly inexperienced and led a different lifestyle in the 20s. I’m disagreeing that this happens with any sort of meaningful frequency. Except the OP explicitly stated he is not talking about inexperienced men? Here it is again for you: ​ Some guys don’t have a choice, neckbeards and gamma incels are generally beyond redemption as far as women are concerned. He explicitly said that, but ofc you ain't gonna read shit, you go with implied shit you made up in …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 01:21 PM

I'm 35, oldest would be 32..
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 10:30 AM
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While it is true women don't love men, just what men can do for them, i don't think that not going 50/50 proves this. In many western european countries women are likely to go 50/50, but that doesn't suddenly mean they love men for "who they are" and not "what can they provide"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 10:21 AM
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It's not impossible. Most men can be in the top 20% of available men in some attribute at some point in their life. It may involve self effort for looks, or simply moving to a location where your status by nature of being a foreigner is enough to put you in the top 20% for status or maybe moving to a area where you are in the 20% of income earners. Also what does neoliberal have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 12:03 AM
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Wait where was this even said?. I'd seriously like you to quote which part of the OP said this. In fact he literally agrees with your point ​ Some guys don’t have a choice, neckbeards and gamma incels are generally beyond redemption as far as women are concerned. IE he literally says women who are sexually experienced are NOT settling down with guys who are inexperienced and unsuccessful. Seriously noticing a common trend of blue pill women on here who just cannot read. They see a red pill flair…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 09:20 PM
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They don't label themselves as such but they have attributes that are pretty much entirely redpill. You don't get to be successful in the world with sort of naivety it takes to be remain blue pill
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:53 PM
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What "basic math" I mean the idea you have to be top 5% of anything to get a woman is kind of ridiculous to begin with. So i'm not sure you are even starting from a sensible place. I'm not top 5% in looks, or status, or money, or probably anything. Top 20% is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:45 PM
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You don't even remotely need to be top 5% more like top 20% for any one of those traits. The majority of men are obese, just getting in shape, hitting the gym, good self care and dressing properly will easily put him in the top 10- 20% of single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:41 PM
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That's generally the calibre of advice you'll get from women on here. You learn quickly to ignore it all. Actual advice is that because you'll never stop men dating/sleeping with low quality women, you have no choice but to focus on the attributes that matter for dating...looks and money/status and be as high above average as possible. Men, by overlooking qualities in women they are uncomfortable with, are not giving themselves options but making it harder for the next man entering the dating ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 12:50 PM
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The majority CAN do it. The majority WON'T do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 12:34 PM
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Men only lower their standards for dating/sex. They don't lower their standards for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 12:30 PM
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Blue pill says you need to work on your deepest traumas and insecurities to be your best authentic self. Eh where in blue pill says that? No it just tells you bullshilt like work on personality and be yourself. All useless advice for dating and relationships. Work on personality is pointless, working on looks and status is what matters in DATING. Knowing about female monkey branching and hypergamy and why being a strong dependable man who doesn't expose vulnerability will help you maintain relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 12:28 PM
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Wait what lmao How is that even remotely the same thing. Watching porn is not the same as doing porn!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 12:11 PM
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Wtf do you mean videos of it? Why would a guy just happen to be recording it as it happens? And why on earth would he then post it online!? Wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 10:30 PM
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Thing is because you aren't a man dating women you can afford to ignore evidence and demand proof. You have no skin in the game you cam sit back and debate from the sidelines. Anyone who is a guy dating women knows whats up though. Most men have all the proof they need. It's probably one of the first things a guy learns early on. Showing true emotional vulnerability to a woman is absolutely a beginners trap. It's something all men will do at least once. They then learn their lesson and not do it…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 10:27 PM
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Bruh. Are you for real?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 10:09 PM
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To be fair I've only ever seen women give this "advice" on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 07:17 PM
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Showing when you are happy. Showing when your troubled (by minor things) Talking about things that annoy you. These to me are just showing emotions Emotionally vulnerable is exposing emotions that reveal a weakness about yourself. Constantly worrying about specific things. (finances, work, family, being cheated on) Any form of crying in front of people Getting uncontrollably angry and heated (if i show anger it is always deliberate and never as a spontaneous reaction, ie ive decided that showing…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 09:16 AM
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Haha exactly! as soon as a woman doesnt conform to the world view of the sisterhood, the vitriol and attacks ramp up to hammer them back in line. Its why women online tend to have a hive mind mentality
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 09:01 AM
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Not sure what you mean by proof. Most women aren't posting on tiktok. You think all the women liking those videos are ALL tiktok hotties? Most men have experienced this in relationships that's why this view exists. There are women who don't post on tiktok that have similar views that's a fact. Is he dealing with the type of woman who like or pretend to like it initially but will use it against him later on? Very high chance of that happening as most relationships end and usually not on good term…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 07:19 PM
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Lmao most men literally have experienced it themselves the hard way. That's why the view exists in the first place. The problem: These women show a pattern. Vain, bitchy women who were typically hot. Most women wouldn’t want to be around these types, but guys do. . But women who aren't like that have a very similar view as well. If you think only women like that hold the view then you're mistaken. Who do you think is liking these videos? Its just regular non tiktok women who if adked in person w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 06:22 PM
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Bunch of women are gonna lie and say it isn't. Anyone with a brain knows it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 05:31 PM
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Finding a good guy isn't the priority Having fun is. They think their 20s will last forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 05:29 PM
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No guy with even a single brain cell, thinks women will change.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 03:23 PM
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Well there is always some super rich billionaire Chad who those supermodels chase. But that's mostly irrelevant to us mere mortals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 10:59 AM
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Getting pumped and dumped Chad chasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 02:36 AM
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lol, zoomers who think millennials don't understand technology is kinda cute Sorry to break it to you but genx is the last generation that didn't grow up around technology and the internet. Millennials know far more about it than young people. Also I still existed from the 2000s to 2023. I didn't get frozen back in 2000 and wake up today. In fact I remember when online dating actually WAS more representative of real life. OLD as it is now is a rigged platform that is NOT representative of real l…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:20 PM

Seems you already know that blue pill advice is garbage and mostly useless so how exactly are they the same? Also it isn't just about finding a partner but what to do after that. You're just focusing on one small part. Blue pillers will tell men cry in front of women and be emotional and similar garbage. Just total trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 10:26 PM

She never reads what she replies to, don't waste your time conversing with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 10:16 PM

Hobbies give you things to share and talk about and bond over. They show that you have your own interesting life without a partner. That's attractive. Most women have no hobbies tbh. And no "travelling" isn't a hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 07:36 PM
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well it's true though spending too much time on a career at the expense of everything else generally doesn't work out well for most people
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 07:34 PM
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Fellas, I'm telling you right now, "careers" will not fill the void in your heart, A career is necessary for money also it can (not necessarily) provide some purpose and goal and feeling of accomplishment. "hobbies" will not fill the void in your heart, You can choose social hobbies. (eg sports) As with all things the importance is a good balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 01:25 PM
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Not being emotionally vulnerable is not the same as not showing emotions though...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 01:18 PM
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Being emotionally vulnerable works 100% of the time. Until it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 01:16 PM
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It's not real life because ppl act completely differently online than offline. It's not real life because the demographic of people online even within the same age group is not a true reflection of the real world It's not real life because a dating app is an artificial controlled online environment manipulated by the dating app companies to maximise profits. Also you can't have a meaningful relationship online. But hey keep thinking that artificial environment is an accurate representation of da…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 01:10 PM
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God damn that was savage, but she deserved it. 💀 Gotta love the way she pretends she doesn't understand that women don't desire short men. All women know this. All of them. It's why I can't take most women on here seriously, they tell such obvious lies. She tried to chase chad, realised her looks weren't gonna cut it to lock chad down so she found a short guy (undesirable by women). Will she admit this no, ofc but we all know this is exactly what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 12:39 PM
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to be fair everyone is a simp to literal supermodels, so that's kinda forgivable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:09 AM
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except i'm not saying i'm 6'2 though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 08:40 AM
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I'm 5'10 and a fraction. If I told women I was 6ft tall pretty sure none of them would ever be able to tell especially as I'm exactly 6 feet when wearing shoes and i don't walk around outside bare foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:35 AM
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these things don't just develop out of the void, it's because some of these things are true or partially true. Also your generalisation is kinda dumb, most men get red pilled from just life and trial and error. Pink pill sounds like the average female redditor though, so i'm a bit confused by that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:19 AM
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No because it's mostly comparative. Ie comparing men and women. Chad's female equivalent is literally a model and has to put in basically no work other than not get fat. She snaps her fingers and Chad ghosts all the average chad chasers he was fucking around with and comes running.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:04 AM
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get off dating apps and approach women IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 09:54 PM
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why is it more hopeless in the long term?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 08:08 PM
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Well you're the one who came in here aggressively generalising about all men that they don't want LTRs simply because you got 1000 dms from randoms who saw your nudes and are just messaging you for sex. If you met your boyfriend that way then doesn't his very existance prove you're own OP wrong? Or you think your boyfriend is literally the only man in the entire world like this. Most men are not looking for LTRs from women posting nudes on the internet, even if they don't have an issue with it. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 08:05 PM
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Dont understand the comments here of women having an "overabundance of options" The comparison is usually with men who mostly have literally zero dating options from online dating. Also, the options are only there is you are fine going on dates with a guy who messages you "hey" only (showing he has no actual interest in you as a person) and cannot hold a conversation. The is exactly the same for men. I've not had a ONE women on bumble message with anything than "hey" or something equivalent. On …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 07:57 PM
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hate the "just meet girls in real life bro" fallacy. The truth is online dating is real life. It's not real life though unless you just want an internet friend. ​ Any woman that's single is likely using the apps so even if you meet them in real life your competition is still every man in a 100 mile radius. Women are going on apps for a Chad, they can find average and above average guys easily IRL. Your competition isn't every man in a 100 mile radius. It's ever Chad in a 100 mile radius, but cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 07:39 PM
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People generally wont be selfless to improve things for others Men getting off online dating literally improves things for themselves though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 07:27 PM
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Don't even pretend like you felt "put down" by my response. Literally as tame a response as possible given your nonsense OP This is your "experiment" You posted nudes online. You check your DMs You find men just wanting sex, not interested in LTR Conclusion: Men are only looking for casual sex, not LTR. ​ Like what other response do you expect to get, you clearly aren't a very bright person. Men who want LTR's generally don't want them with women who post nudes online and even if they don't mind…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 03:21 PM
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So 1000 ppl dm'd the op who posted nudes online for a quick fuck and that means all men do this? Are you stupid? What about the other billions of men who didn't dm you? Do they not exist lol. I wouldn't be caught dead DM'ing social media attention seekers for sex. What an absolute waste of time. I am just exposing that there are TONS of men who are into casual sex and fwbs instead of the men you all think are out there who just want LTRs. Wow! Men are into casual sex? You mean like women are too…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 02:44 PM
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It is also overlooked in men if they have high status or looks. If a 1/10 obese women did some of the cute girly behaviours it would absolutely seem creepy. You're just describing halo effect and the problem is it doesn't apply to men as easily because women consider 80-85% below average in looks. So if you're not obviously rich or high status (openly displaying wealth/status) or in the top 15% of looks, you don't get any halo effect as a man from cold approaching women and thus your behaviour i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 02:41 PM

Whether you believe in rating or not doesn't matter, it's how people select partners, it is still a question worth knowing the answer to as well as what you possibly need to improve. If you can't get status or money, all you have left is looks. You don't even want to rate yourself that alone suggests you don't care enough to put much effort into that either or how you' would need to improve. Women smiling at you can mean anything... did you actually talk to the women who smiled at you and ascert…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 01:41 PM
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It tells us the guy has money, in which case he isn't "objectively less attractive"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 12:49 PM
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Hard disagree. Any man who touches an online dating app will likely under rate their looks unless they have extreme levels of narcissism and delusion. Also the idea that every single man who is complaining is below average in looks is literally impossible. IRL even above average men get almost zero attention unless they actively seek it out so there is very little chance for below average men to develop an unwarranted ego... I'm objectively above average in looks. Not a chad, but easily above av…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 12:48 PM
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I definitely appreciate it sucks to be in that situation. But ultimately, the world isn't gonna change to accommodate anyone, it just exists as it is. I don't know a lot about where you live and the circumstance, if a lot of men in your vicinity don't earn a lot of money you might still be able to make it work. Are you at least good looking/in shape? Good fashion sense?If you can't improve your financial situation, your only hope is to max out your looks. If you have neither looks or status or m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 12:07 AM

At least the same length of time they wait for Chad. 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 03:54 AM

Except for Project Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 03:51 AM
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In some ways you are right. But it's more an ignorance is bliss. And I wouldn't say it is dead in 30s, it's just different. In some ways it can be better because it is easy to be happy in a relationship when you are idealistic, naive and clueless, you can't see why it isn't sustainable, and it rarely is. But it really takes quite a strong bond for a couple to make a relationship work when they are in the real world and all the stresses that bring, all the experience and baggage of their past, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 11:38 PM
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Strange you should say that, because the conclusion I came to after getting fucked over repeatedly in life in all areas (not just relationship). I concluded I had not choice and that I needed to be a narcissist/sociopath and... i had to change to be one. Luckily that type of personality is so completely repulsive to me I quite literally could not bring myself to be that way and it wasn't through lack of effort. I could not switch off the parts of my brain that require me to be someone like that.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 11:30 PM
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my fiancé aspires to work part time likely earning no more than full time minimum wage. This is not even remotely the same as the OP's scenario and you know it. Doing a skilled job and choosing to do less hours than normal is what I do. Granted I still earn far more then full time minimum wage but the point is it's a life style choice. I have no kids but if I wanted to I could stil raise a family on my current salary as it is if I had to (barely) but if I had a partner even contributing part tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 08:38 PM
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I couldn't care less if ppl call me a loser or an idiot, it's randoms on the internet. The idea that it is "punching down" is pretty absurd... like seriously? Or that their "cruelty" (aka angry ranting attacks on the internet) has any effect on the way I view the actual world. The world is exactly as cruel as I think it is. Which actually isn't very cruel, but certainly not a kind place. People act in their own best interest, and that sometimes results in people getting fucked over. Very rarely …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 07:58 PM
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There are no women making minimum wage? There are no women making minimum wage who wants to marry someone also making minimum wage in a dead end job with no aspiration to go higher. Like come on, why do women even give such bad advice. I wouldn't dare someone over thirty as I'm well below that but apart from that you described my fiancé when we met (he has since moved in with me and isn't earning any more). So i'm not describing your fiance then cuz he is not over 30! And your flair says maths t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 07:42 PM

Well no, because i was one of those nice guys, so I know you're wrong. I was not asexual I was just naive in my early 20s on how relationships work and how women view relationships. All these hacks and cheat codes are for video games, not for human interaction. The creator in the OP is just completely awkward and awful. What hacks and cheat codes are you even talking about. Seriously I have no idea what you are talking about. Just focus entirely on looks and/or money/status ie get your shit toge…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 06:06 PM

i don't even know who that was aimed at lol. I merely explained why the video was good. What was all of that writing about? Who is talking about uptight asexual asocial religious men?? wtf does any of this have to do with anything at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 05:37 PM
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If you look for women in your own income bracket you'll find plenty Bruh, the guy's income bracket is literally minimum wage. 💀 He's earning minimum wage and he has no ambition. There is no women for him to look for. Why would you even suggest this!?! He either gets his shit together or stays single forever. You're a woman, in which universe would you ever date someone who earns minimum wage AND has no ambition to earn more AND is over 30 AND lives with their parents. Do you even know a single w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 05:33 PM
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Not sure how finances can be fine in this economy raising a family with a man earning 24K a year and seemingly no ambition to progress further than that. Why the fuck is there such a huge stigma against us men living with our parents? Everything is too expensive. And many of us are not smart enough to get a higher paying job to afford our own place. It is what it is. The much bigger red flag and the thing that will turn off any woman who may even have had an interest in you despite your current …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 05:24 PM
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Age 31 living at home earning 24K a year? Earning more than 24K a year in your 30s doesn't take luck. I mean that's likeroughly minimum wage. The only way you can earn less than that (in the west) is if you're an illegal worker. Is it possible to find non-materialistic women who don't care about money and just want a person for themselves and what they have to offer as opposed to purely financial desires? Serious question, not being facetious...What are you offering a woman? You never mentioned …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 05:13 PM
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Bro no one cares abou this shit. Stop paying attention to it. Go out side and ask 100 ppl if they know about leonardo dicaprios girlfriend I bet zero of them have any idea. Have u never seen someone make a post on social media, then it gets flooded with comments by real life people on it (aka go viral)? Those people aren't bots who spend their time on social media 24/7. Again this is a tiny number of ppl. Will never understand why ppl are so fixated with what a small group of loud ppl think on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 04:49 PM

It explains pretty comprehensively why just being a "nice guy" isn't enough and why and what other factors matter. Also explains the difference between how men and women choose partners. It's actually surprisingly good. Stuff that seems obvious to me now but wasn't obvious at all 10 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 04:44 PM
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How is this even a serious question. If you're a man: 🚫Do not get dating advice from women*🚫 \If you MUST get dating advice from a woman, get it from the more alpha masculine women as their masculine traits make them very blunt as they will just tell it like it is and not tell you bullshit like work on personality, or make you hyper analyse your feelings around women to make them feel "comfortable" which is a complete fkn waste of time*. ​ I mean you can probably even get better "advice" from li…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 03:38 PM
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The ppl spending all day worrying about leonardo dicaprios gf in some internet forum is not an accurate representative of the ppl who are offline is what i mean. It is a very narrow subset of (usually) socially maladjusted people who make lots of noise in that space. 99.99999% of ppl could not name or recognise leonardio dicarprios girlfriend if their life depended on it, and don't care. Meanwhile, we don't hear as much of a complaint about age gap relationships when its the other way around. Be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 03:19 PM
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I'd say 20. I was 19 when I first had an actual date and I thought that was weird. 20 when i first had sex. I thought that was pretty late. seems wild to me that this isn't common now and the age has gone up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 01:42 PM
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Again the internet isn't real life. Most ppl log on to forums social media to complain about shit. Most ppl are living their lives and literally don't care who any of those ppl are married to or even know, and they are celebrities. Zero ppl in the real world care that some guy is dating a woman much younger than him, no matter what women on here will tell you. Like most ppl don't even know my age or my partners age so how would they even know to complain?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 01:35 PM

I'd bet a substantial amount of money he didn't watch it, that video was really good.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 01:16 PM

I know you defo didn't watch that. I did roll my eyes at the name of the channel but was genuinely surprised that it was a very good video, it literally has nothing to do with blaming women or men being angry or lonely. Where on earth did you even get that from if not your imagination?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 01:15 PM
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Then you just pass the threshold. Or move on. Women's standards are ridiculous in their 20s sure. The only threshold that isn't achievable is height. If you're average height for a male there is no issue . If you're below average height though good luck 💀👍
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 01:07 PM
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When i say against it i mean against them being with much older men. To a 20 year old everyone over the age of 30 is an "old person" But most ppl do not care what other consenting adults do. Except online ofc where apparently what a 35 year old guy and a 25 year old woman do is everyone's business and the 25 year old is suddenly an infant who is being groomed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 01:03 PM
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Who are these ppl? I've not heard a single person IRL talk about any of these things or similar thing. It's just the typical angry feminists on social media with too much time on their hands, most ppl don't care and are busy just making ends meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 10:35 AM
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Just find someone you already share interests with and get along with. Instead of trying to "mold" someone to be the way you want only for them to inevitably change anyway. Then it becomes a benefit if they are set in their ways. Ppl in their early 20s are basically kids in adult bodies they will change significantly over the next few years no matter what. I look back at myself in my early 20s and I barely recognise the person I was.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 10:33 AM
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It's a juxtaposition of ppl finding things like cute cat pics adorable while being able to still be extremely "evil" (his words not mine) to other ppl ​ It may be a silly point, but it doesn't seem like "contempt" for ppl liking cat pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 10:24 AM
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Wait wtf was the woman being interviewed, the woman whose profile pics were being shown!!!??? Thats INSANE! The pics are like a 6 and she is like a 2-3 in person. That's basically catfishing at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 10:16 AM
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You realise you don't need to date men to see mens dating profiles lol. Most men on dating apps barely have any good pictures of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 10:14 AM
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I've never seen guys misrepresent looks as much as women lets be real. Caked on makeup, top down angles to hide fatness, First of most guys don't even have good pictures of themselves so if anything they misrepresent their looks the opposite way... ie making themselves look worse with shit photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 10:12 AM
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It is generally younger women who are most concerned about older men trying to date them and saying please stop because it's creepy and unwanted. IRL the only group generally against it are women under the age of 23 eg students... which is fine as most are still basically kids in an adult body. Some are mature for their age but these days it is rare. I do think it is strange for men in their 30s to date uni students that young, Totally different life stages. Where shit gets bizarre is when peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 09:56 AM
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Your perspective seems entirely from the POV of men in their 20s-40s. Someone who doesn't come with kids from a previous relationship Someone who has the capabilities to provide him with children and form a family Someone who is not divorced. eg, these are all ofc true for men who are young and yet to start their own family. But no necessarily true for someone in their late 40s to 50s. ​ Someone who is agreeable and won't challenge him over and over in leadership Not sure what this has to do wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 09:43 AM
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And similarly, if a paternity test shows you as the father, it doesn't mean she isn't cheating. Purpose of a paternity test isn't to find out if she cheating, it's to find out if the kid is yours. Finding out she is cheating is a byproduct ​ Maybe the question is "are you cheating", maybe it's a genuine concern around catching something. ​ Regardless of the motivation behind the demand or the outcome of the test, if your wife asks you to take an STD test, she is implying that she believes you ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 12:01 AM
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Wait I just realised you said ask ME to do an std test. That would be weird as hell mainly because it's a dumb think to ask, I'd think she was a moron, since the actual question she wants to ask is are you cheating. Doing an STD test doesn't really prove anything even if it comes back negative and if it came back positive i'd be the one to leave her since she's the only one I could have got it from, because one of the things I've never done and never will do is cheat in a relationship. Been chea…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 10:44 PM
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She wouldn't need to ask me she can just go do it if she needs to, i seriously don't get what the issue is. I don't need to know every medical test she gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:36 PM
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the top 10% of men in terms of looks/status.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:48 PM
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? Where did he say he had contempt for this?? I thought he was just using it as a juxtaposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 07:05 PM
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I'm not sure how 50%-60% of women chasing Chads for marriage is realistic. If 50-60% of all men were chasing runway models for marriage, i'm pretty sure everyone would immediately realise why that plan won't work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 06:51 PM
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Lack of good men... who are also Chad... who will also commit to them. Is the full meaning of "lack of good men"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 12:37 PM
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This has to be a troll post. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 12:33 PM
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It's basically the same thing. If you want to be perceived as nice you're gonna have to be spineless sometimes. Better to just have a spine and only hang around ppl who still think you're nice and ignore those who don't. ​ I tell my Girl that going to the club is disrespectful and that i am against the concept off male friends. This are my boundaries for example. And she obeys that happily. This doesn't work, she'll do it anyway, esp if there are any problems in the relationship. you just come o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 12:14 PM
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The other two, you can see the guy really loves. That's how you know that relationship is doomed 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 12:12 PM

the fact that every place you go to is off limits for flirting or trying to ask someone out It's not off limits. It's only "off limits" if you listen to a specific group of really loud socially maladjusted women on reddit. Do not get dating advice from women on reddit, as chances are one of these women will show up and spew garbage. But I feel online dating has made the average women feel like a 10 rather than a 5 and made the average man feel like a 0 rather than a 5. Causing a major unbalance …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:21 AM
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i'm sure some will insulted as they don't see the mans point of view. That's why the safest thing to do is just not say anything and do the test. All men should be doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:20 AM
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bruh im fucking ded😆💀
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:09 AM
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So you are generalizing from a small percentage women with strange ideas and behavior? It's not strange, it is in their best interest to find a beta provider. ​ The average age of first marriage is late twenties for women. I said women in their 30s though? ​ Most single moms date/marry men who also have children of their own That's because it's mostly their only option ​ The idea that they are snatching up clueless virgins is ridiculous. That's literally your idea not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:08 PM
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that sucks... but then how exactly does your experience prove younger women aren't attracted to older men? You weren't even an older man?? Just a kid who looked old which is actually far far worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:03 PM

If you have social skills and the woman finds you attractive it is perfectly fine. I've had no issues at all. Women generally do like flirting with guys they find attractive. If that's not for you that's fine. Everyone is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 08:59 PM
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If by younger you mean women in their early 20s then you're right, most ppl at that age are mentally still kids. They want to go out with kids their own age, which is better. But if we are talking about proper adults mid 20s and above then it rarely is an issue. The caveat is the not attracted to older looking men. Everything else about older men is generally more attractive to women. As always it's basically looks. Don't look old and your age won't matter. Also a student at 40?. That's ultimate…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:54 PM
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Yeah that's roughly the age when it slowly dawns on them there is no rich chad at the end of the rainbow If they couldn't get Chad when they were in their 20s they sure as hell aren't gonna get Chad in their 30s. Once they realise this, it's time to find a beta simp. ​ If they are a single mother then it is obviously a given, they need a beta simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:46 PM
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In their 30s? Most of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:39 PM
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They think they advocating for feminism is the way to solve men's issues. I can understand women thinking that as obviously they have no clue about men's issues, and tbh that's understandable, I don't expect them to... but the fact that some men think this is truly baffling. Beyond deluded indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 05:34 PM

It's only rude if it is immediately explicit. Sexual interest can be implied, it's a part of flirting. It doesn't mean explicitly making direct sexual statements. Just has to be the type of convo platonic friends wouldn't usually have.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 05:30 PM
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So they created this narrative that they are attracted to the socially acceptable nice guy because it made THEM look better Wait is this even still true, I thought many women explicitly stated they hate nice guys. Others don't say it but their actions say the same thing Sure the odd woman will lie and say they care about a guy being nice, but it's basically just looks and status. As long as the guy isn't a literal piece of shit (and sometimes even if he is) then being "extra nice" starts being a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 05:29 PM

No one says they have to have sex immediately. It's not about pressuring for sex immediately. It's about establishing sexual interest very early and making that interest obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 03:35 PM
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You don't need any permission to do a paternity test and there are no child support payments if the child isn't yours and you do the paternity test fast enough so you can remove yourself from legally being the father. You have to do this within a few years. (which is why you do it immediately after birth and say nothing unless the child isn't yours) Using in divorce proceedings is difficult to fight against alimony. N The guy already fucked up if he got married but that's a separate issue from c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 01:48 PM
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like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 01:11 PM
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I'm pretty much similar except centre left. I just avoid spaces on the left for mens issues as it's a waste of time. I'm curious then what spaces are you talking about? People on the left will shit on men's issues, but I presume you aren't a part of those communities if you're on the right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 01:07 PM
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Men are not only supposed to validate them, but also acquiesce to them and take them at their word 100%. This does not ring true for men's experiences. Nobody has to validate shit. Men or women. ​ A man's lived experience is questioned, scrutinized, invalidated, and beaten down to be made false due to men revealing unsuitable qualities and realities in women. Don't hang around people who do this. ​ Can I ask what you political leaning is? The reason I ask is every time I see complaints like this…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 12:59 PM
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Because everyone who isn't terminally online, already knows it is a fact. The only point you are making is that you don't know men IRL and form your opinions of men off dating reddits. 💀 Here you go. The difference occurs as early as pre-puberty . Crying in Middle Childhood: A Report on Gender Differences - PMC (nih.gov) Log of the internet and go meet men IRL This is why I tell men never get dating advice from women online btw
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 12:46 PM
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Pretty sure women cry about that more except in their case it is obviously justified as in most areas women do have it worse than men. IRL most men would agree women have a harder time in life than men and don't whinge about feminism etc. Again, you seem to think men crying on dating reddits that feminism made their life miserable is the norm. It's not. Most men just get on with life, dating is only one small area of life and it is only really a struggle for men in their 20s. Go meet men IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 12:04 PM
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Again if the men in your life regular cry for help, then I don't know what more to say. I'd be embarrassed to have a male family member do that constantly and would take them aside and have a word with them. You can keep pretending all men are like your uncle crying nonstop if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 12:00 PM
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That would be the ONLY scenario I'd ever consider it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:56 AM
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No these men are mostly just clueless or desperate They are only cucks if they deliberately seek out single mothers and exclude other women. Which is pretty much unheard of. Of all the attributes a woman can have, being a single mother is probably the only one that is STRICTLY a negative attribute in every circumstances. There are men who fetishise and seek out fat women, but only cucks would fetishise single mothers and that is rare. Zero chance I would date a single mother unless the kid was a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:56 AM
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I see women crying IRL all the time about relationships to their female friends and guy friends, what are you talking about. I've had countless women do that to me, also I have sisters, nieces I see them all the time. ​ Literally had them cry to me about it. Never in my life have I had a guy literally cry to me about relationships. Or even complain to me about them. The most is something like this: Them: "oh my and so and so broke up" Me: "ah that sucks, hey if you want to talk about it any time…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 10:44 AM
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FFS just don't say anything and get the paternity test on your own. The reason is simple. Most women have never even thought about this and can't even put themselves in the man's position to understand, so they will have to get their opinion from other women who will do the same until they assimilate the online opinion that it is a bad thing from the mentally unstable women online who think it is a bad idea. All without ever thinking for themselves. The "online sisterhood" will do what they do b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 08:48 AM
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How is that a lie? Most men aren't on PPD crying about women no dating them while doing nothing IRL to fix it. They are busy actually fixing shit IRL and not whining. Do you even know any men IRL or is your only interaction with men, on reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 08:34 AM
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Different poster , from my experience both genders can victimize. But women will lean on their irl circles and men won’t ( because they’re educated to be emotionally stunted so they whine online ). Men will lean on irl circles, they just need to do it FAR less. Also 99% of men aren't whining online. Most men want solutions, not feel good hug fests of lies. Men crying and whining solves nothing. You know this. because depressed ( I’ve seen women cry in a group because they were lonely, 100% men c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 08:31 AM
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This sub isn't the entire world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 12:48 AM
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Come on, a persons worth is far more than their ability to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:49 PM

Yes, you're referring to a cognitive bias. People who are subject to them are weak-minded. So it's incorrect to simply ascribe being weak-minded to all the populous It's not weak minded it is human nature. Ppl tend to take things for granted. Not all the time, but sometimes. That's the way it is. ​ Yeah like if your wife has cancer and you have to be at her beckon call. Let's say even in that instance it's repellant. Tending someone with cancer isn't being a doormat wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:46 PM

nope it is human nature to perceive something has less value if it is easy to get. Either way being a doormat doing everything for a woman is insta repellent. Every guy knows this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:31 PM
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Hypergamy When defining as ‘wanting the best’, guys are hypergamous too. They’re just hypergamous in terms of looks. Women are infamously hypergamous it literally is the basis of their mating strategy. Men who don't realise this will continue to get burnt. It is not the same as "wanting the best" everyone wants the best lmao. Men generally do not monkey branch away for looks. You're probably thinking about chads. Though it's not even monkey branching when chad does it because monkey branching im…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:22 PM
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It's harder but it isn't even remotely difficult as guys make it out to be. Most men just compare themselves to women in their 20s who comparatively have to put literally zero effort. ​ It evens out between men and women in the 30s and becomes easier for men from 40s onwards. Overall it's probably about even. But i wouldn't say it really matter that much that someone believes or agrees it is harder or not harder. But no one with a functioning braincell can deny women in their 20s have it way eas…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:10 PM
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It's a blueprint for saving a TON of time. It's only repellent if the woman doesn't find you good looking in which case no time is wasted on someone who isn't interested in you anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:01 PM
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If you're looks are good enough she won't care if you don't have friends, cuz it will mean more time for her. But generally guys who are super good looking naturally have lots of friends so that's probably so rare it's not worth considering
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 10:53 PM
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If you have to do online dating as a guy (and you shouldn't) Just get professional photos taken that look like they aren't photoshoots.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 10:49 PM
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In the realm of Red Pill ideology, women are often portrayed as being indifferent and even cruel towards men. Just like men are often indifferent and cruel towards women, or men are cruel towards other men and women are indifferent and even cruel towards other women. It's just a reminder that women may be the "fairer sex" but they are just as capable of the same cruelty men are. Obviously the focus is on women to men cruelty since the Red Pill is about straight men dating women, but it isn't a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 06:20 PM

This isn't true. Humans take others for granted and often want what they can't have. If something is too easy to get, we tend to perceive it has less value. The mistreating aspect is just an extreme case of being hard to get, you don't have to mistreat someone to avoid being "easy to get". That's a ridiculous thing to claim. That said if you are a doormat for a woman she won't respect you and yes she will be repelled by you no matter how nice you are, since women intrinsically know that a doorma…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 06:08 PM
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Cheating is morally wrong because it’s against my morals” ​ I said morally wrong for me. If I wouldn't like something done to me, then by default it is against my morals to do it to someone (unless they explicitly want it done to them). ​ You’d be cool with it if your partner secretly went through your text messages to make sure you weren’t cheating? No And I wouldn't do that to her as I wouldn't want her to do that to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 06:05 PM

Currently I do the literally opposite, prefer to be with a woman who doesn't want kids yet because I don't want kids currently and don't want to be pressured into one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 08:54 AM
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Cheating is morally wrong for me because it goes against my morals to do it and I wouldn't want someone to do it to me. It would *still* be morally wrong even if it didn't hurt my partner. Hurt has nothing to do with it. Thats not the case for a paternity test. It's not morally wrong to find out I'm the father of a child. And I'd be fine with it if the roles were reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 08:49 AM
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show me where did i say i was married????? jesus i swear ppl DO NOT READ in this reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:06 AM
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doesn't matter she doesn't own every skin cell or strand of hair that falls from the child. No one does. It's an inanimate object.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:45 AM
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it's only doomed if the kid ain't his. 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:39 AM
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Doesn't matter if they aren't binding in a court of law, because if the result shows the guy isn't the father he can just go do one that is binding in a court of law and it will still give the same result!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:34 AM
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Taking a piece of hair from the baby isn't a medical procedure. Do two parents need to agree every time the baby has a hair cut lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:33 AM
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where did i say women are cheating liars. you ppl just make up any old shit in your head when replying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:30 AM
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Guy can take the DNA sample from the baby himself and send it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:29 AM
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Lol what? What baby records?? Why would there be records for the baby??? It's the guy doing the test, the results belong to him not the baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:24 AM
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What positive result does that achieve?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:18 AM
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yes but it's not cheating so nothing morally wrong about it. Also unless the guy is an idiot there is no way for the woman to ever know as she cannot legally access his medical records.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:15 AM
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Which is fine. It's not cheating. If I go to the shop and don't tell my partner, it is also going behind her back. If i go to the doctor for therapy and don't tell my partner, it is also going behind her back. You partner doesn't have to know every single thing in your entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:10 AM
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If there was no history of abuse in the relationship, then no. not because they don't trust me, i always believe in trust, but verify, and by doing that you gradually increase the trust you have for people. I'd not be okay because they clearly have mental issues they need sorting out before getting into a relationship. Don't really want to have kids with someone who might just get spooked and run away with them. Huge red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:00 AM
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Which is why you don't ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:51 AM
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You can't ask for a paternity test without accusing your partner of infidelity. Of course you can. A man does not need to ask the woman for a paternity test, he can just go get one and not tell anyone, and no accusation needs to be made.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:50 AM
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Or he can just do it after and not tell her and avoid all the headaches
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:44 AM
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Normal women get ignored by Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 12:44 AM
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Needing it is fine. Hiding it is another.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:58 PM
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men don't expect women to pay for them... what are you talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:15 PM
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Men do that too. Not as much as women, for women it is literally the default state. ​ Most people fuck by age 18. A dude playing catch up means he fell behind his peers. He’s most likely autistic. Wasn't talking about fucking, why the hell is that the only thingy you can ever think of lmao. Every single time. I mean in terms of dating experience. Women don't have to put any effort in to date in their 20s. Guys have to so that leads to many guys falling behind. In their 30s when women start to fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:12 PM
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I think people should take good advice and reject bad advice. Any guy so stupid to ask the woman for a paternity test when he doesn't need her permission to do so deserves to be divorced simply on the grounds of being a fucking moron.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:25 PM
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Of course women don't think it should be automatic because then they get to saddle men with other mens kids. Either way thats on them. I know I won't be raising another man's child that's for sure. Men just need to be educated to get a paternity test after birth asap. No permission necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:23 PM
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You just moved to a place where your looks and status take you further. It's a common strategy and is basically just a lite version of passport bro. It's still looks and status end of the day especially if you're on dating apps which it sounds like you are then it's looks and status amplified by 100.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:40 PM
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That's cuz some women are fine with a man raising another mans kid as his own so you won't understand why that a horrible thing. Either way that's your prerogative. You can advocate women dump men who want a paternity test. I'll tell men to dip if they are in a relationship with someone who has abuse GO bags even though there are no signs of abuse in the relationship. Luckily the guy doesn't need to tell anyone he got a paternity test so it's a moot point. No point getting upset over the unknowa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:22 PM
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Hypergamy, monkey branching, the fact that women mature and reach their sexual market value peak long before men, means men have to play catchup in their 20s as women are far more experienced and saavy than them relationship wise Men tend to be more naive, clueless, immature, irresponsible than women in their 20s. The fact that dating for women in their 20s is so easy it leads to unique dynamics when dating women in their 20s vs 30s. Men don't have a fertility wall where the pressure to find a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:19 PM
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This option absolutely does exist for guys btw, it's more niche but it absolutely does exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:40 PM
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that's dumb as hell. Just do it after. If a guy is so stupid to do that then the mother should get rid of that guy and run as far as way as possible because she's in a relationship with a defacto moron. No advantage of doing it before hand as it requires explicit permission from the mother and it's not as if it changes anything. She's not gonna abort the baby and have a do over if the paternity test comes back negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:33 PM

This OP is just pure unadulterated gold. If I could frame this post I would. I can't think of a single OP that so succinctly sums up why Red Pill is just so accurate when it comes to relationship dynamics. It's shows Miserable Female "friends" trying to sabotage happy relationships What young women really think of naive guys The Wall and how women standards plummet back to reality in their mid 30s. Why disabilities are a death sentence for men in dating That younger women KNOW chad chasing is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:25 PM
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It’s a lot more easy to spot red flags when you observe everyone, not just the people you’re interested in fucking. Yes well, everyone naively thinks in their first relationships that the person they are with is special and not like everyone else. Things that you would see as red flags in others, you paint them a different colour for that person. You're preaching to the choir, I obviously already know this. ​ Only if she doesn't see men as people. I would say women figure things out a lot faster…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:36 PM
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You are literally comparing statistics so it isn't semantics. It is relevant because if you look at the stats for paternity fraud ONLY, then you are ignoring all the cases of non-paternity fraud ie where the mother didn't know the guy wasn't the father. You don't get to just ignore data just to make your incorrect points seem correct. ​ Not sure why men here think it's that common for women to name the wrong father, so much they'll fuck up their perfectly healthy relationship over it. Nothing ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 09:01 AM
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Not everything needs to be said or shared. There is literally ZERO benefit to the relationship if the guy tells the wife he is taking a paternity test, especially if the women doesn't understand why it is important and asks women on the internet for advice and her head gets filled with the garbage I've seen from some women on this topic. The relationship benefits if he does it without saying anything, so why chose the obviously stupid option of saying it!?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 08:55 AM
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I literally said why in the rest of the post lol, why not just read the whole thing? I said it no doubt implies quite deep mental issues as a result of past abuse. The lack of trust doesn't bother me as the lack of trust is coming from clear mental issues of the other person which is in some ways understandable. But ultimately there is no logical reason for a normal person to need a GO bag in a relationship with no history of abuse. Abusive men don't just go from literally zero physical or psych…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 08:45 AM
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It's probably a mix of both. The two feed into each other significantly. I've seen women ignore red flags from guys that to me as a guy were so obvious I genuinely wonder how it is possible to be so stupid. I've personally ignored or not seen red flags so obvious that a female friend of mine had to sit me down and give me the run down on why I'm literally being a dumbass. And in my defence it was just absolute naive cluelessness. I blame no one but myself for being a clueless moron which is why …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 08:34 AM
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Because if the signs of infidelity appear later it is often too late and he will forever be the childs legal guardian, having to raise another mans child. Blame the laws, not the guy. It's also not a slap in anyones face, obviously the guy shouldn't accuse the woman of cheating before the test.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:09 AM
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which parts of feminism do they pick that benefits them?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:05 AM
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Nope. Thinking men and women are the similar when it comes to relationships is precisely why men and women get fucked over by each other in relationships Once i realised who differently women think, it all made sense and relationships have gone much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:56 AM
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Implying to who? No one has to know anything, if he says nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:54 AM
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No bomb needs to be dropped! why do you lot keep saying this!? You do realise a father does not need the woman's permission to do a paternity test right?!? The bomb only gets dropped if he is not the father in which case she deserves the bomb being dropped on her!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:09 AM
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You honestly shouldn't be, when I didn't believe this I was far far unhappier. Last few years have been the happiest by far. I just wish I was taught these truths a lot sooner. Would have prevented me wasting so much time in shitty relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:07 AM
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It is productive cuz it makes me laugh. I love reading train wreck hateful threads it kinda highlights how important taking care of ones mental health is cuz some of the people in here are straight up nutcase with some of the thread titles. Really gives a window into mental illness and what red flags to look out for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:51 AM
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Good to see there are some women who support this. I must say I get really suspicious how much so many women on here get angry at paternity testing. Probably because they know that men have a limited amount of time to challenge paternal rights so the longer they delay a paternity test the better. The fact that these women are okay with men unknowingly raising another guys kid as his own just tells you all you need to know about what type of women they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:41 AM
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secret GO bags because "I might abuse her" when there is no prior abuse is honestly one of the dumbest things I've ever heard after I thought about it. I'd dip if I ever found a secret go bag with cash in it ready to bounce, especially if we have kids, this type of person might just up and disappear with the kids one day at the drop of a hat? Learn to spot red flags and avoid abusive relationship, it's sad if the person was abused in the past but I'm not a licensed therapist people need to sort …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:35 AM
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yes i know and they are up in arms every time. Definitely food for thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:28 AM
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i meant you have a few years to revoke the signing if you find out the kid isn't yours, even if you sign that you are the father at birth. ​ If you mean a husband should wait until after the birth well that’s likely too late You said this. Which is actually not true. It isn't too late, but you have a limited amount of time to get the paternity test and revoke it. (hence women not wanting men to do it) Not sure why i'm getting down voted for facts but hey people don't like facts on this reddit No…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:22 AM
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Most of what you listed has nothing to do with love. In any case, women love what men can provide, not the man himself, so most of what you said is moot. You are looking for a type of "love" women will not and cannot provide you. ​ In the same scenario I’m pretty 99% sure of women will let the man die without even trying……….I might be biased because of personal experience but I have no reason to think otherwise. If a woman loves what you provide her enough that losing you matters, she'll do what…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 11:12 PM
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lol this paternity test thing REALLY has women up in arms today Also what's with this notion of "asking for paternity tests" Men don't have to ask for paternity tests wth. They can just do them... needs no permission from the mother and judging from how much women seem to protest against it I'm starting to think they should do them. No grounds for divorce because there is no way for the mother to find out unless the guy is an idiot, and tells her, in which case being a dumbass like that is defin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 11:08 PM
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except we are talking about men sexually molesting their own kids which is nowhere NEAR 10% Not even remotely close to 10%, especially if you factor in that this person presumably has no prior evidence of sexually molesting anyone in the past (ie no criminal record for any sexual related crimes)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 11:01 PM
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Except paternity fraud is still not an accurate description. Fraud implies intent. Which implies the woman KNOWS the kid is not his, that's incredibly specific and almost impossible because it means that she not only cheated with another guy but then had this other guy do a paternity test and then found out he's the father, THEN hid it from her partner. That's such an incredibly specific sequence of events, so ofc it is rare. What isn't rare is just cheating on your partner and getting pregnant …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 10:58 PM
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Yes but thing that spawned this thread was a situation where the woman hid the fact she had one. Also she said it was in case of abuse. That said if a woman hid the fact that she had a GO bag then that would still be weird come to think of it. If it is just for emergencies why would you hide it from your partner, an actual decent woman would do what you did, get their partner to make one. You wouldn't hide yours then when shit hits the fan you just dip out. You want the two of you to be prepared…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 10:18 PM
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You sign the birth cert in the hospital, before you leave. Even if the kids not yours, you’re now the father and getting a paternity test doesn’t do anything to prevent you from paying child support. That's not how it works. You usually have a few years to do it. Which is why it is best to do it immediately (and why women in this thread will demonise men for considering it, because they want men to find out too late)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 10:10 PM
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so is there proof of this happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 10:06 PM
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25% of women were molested as kids, no not all by their dad, though many of them were. Well in this scenario it is specifically talking about a father and child so the 25% stat is way off. And again you are using two completely different stats. one stat polls the victim, the other polls the perpetrator. Two completely different statistics. The stat to compare is "how many men have been cheated on?" vs "how many women have been molested by their father?" We all know one is FAR higher than the oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 09:59 PM
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Oh. I thought it was meant just for possible spousal abuse. If it isn't then I don't have an issue with it at all then. Actually sounds quite sensible now I think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 09:45 PM
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Uh not likely. If a 40+ man can fuck hot 20 year olds then he's almost certainly high status or super good looking so he'll either date the 20 year old or if he wants someone with more in common, he'll date a woman in her late 20s to early 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 09:42 PM
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Broadly speaking IT.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 09:38 PM
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Why does that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 09:27 PM
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I said dating apps. Also a hot woman doesn't need social skills, or any skills for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 09:25 PM
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40% of women (and men) cheat. Are you saying more than 40% of men molest their own kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 07:27 PM
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A GO bag with out ANY prior indication of abuse is ridiculous because it is pretty much unheard of for abuse in a relationship to go from literally 0 to being so instantly life threatening that you need to leave within 30 seconds or your life is in danger, with absolutely no in between. I've never in my entire life heard of that happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 07:26 PM
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I must say I 'm intrigued. I did not expect that at all and was wrong. You misunderstand, I have no reason to hand wave it away. I'm a guy in my mid 30s so I'm obviously no opposed to it being true. A study saying things continue to improve for me is obviously a positive. I was just very skeptical but as you said them's the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 07:16 PM
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Because something changed that caused them to not trust their partner, or obviously. Or they were too trusting in the past and learnt and got burnt and that made them change.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 07:00 PM
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The more obvious conclusion is he was unhappy in the relationship and stayed for the sake of the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 06:59 PM
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what are you the language police lmao. 👮🏾‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 06:58 PM
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Maybe before social media and online dating Now these women just post their pics on instagram,tiktok or dating apps and have an audience of millions of simps who will gas up their ego in their replies and DMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 06:52 PM
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Men who have babies with women they dont trust are very low IQ. Sure but that's not necessarily what is happening. You're just assuming that's the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 06:48 PM
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I said abuse, not sexual abuse. So the analogy would be every single time the woman has her son the guy gets to take the kid to a doctor to make sure the woman didn't perform any abuse on the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 06:44 PM
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That sort of money isn't enough for much status especially in big cities. Certainly not enough to compensate for looks. Much better off being a 9/10 who earns 40K a year than an 5/10 who earns 90K.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 06:37 PM
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Except guys here said that they wouldn't have a reason, so it looks toxic you randomly accuse someone of cheating that you’re suppose to b trusting. Huh? You don't have to accuse anyone of anything you just go do the paternity test. If it is negative then you accuse them. (well it's not really an accusation at that point, it's literally a fact) You have not been reading what guys in this subreddit have been saying. It's still not for "fun". No harm in wanting to be sure the kid you are raising i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 06:33 PM
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Lol you aren't even using the same type of stat so you can't compare the percentages! One is a stat about how often the perpetrator does a crime, the other is a stat about how often someone is a victim of a perpetrator, these are not equivalent! The equivalent stat is what percentage of men have been cheated on by women! And I guarantee it is higher than 10-15% because most men date more than 1 woman in a lifetime. Edit: Quick google shows the stat is closer to 40% for the rate men and women che…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 06:25 PM
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All men know this too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 06:16 PM
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To each their own i guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 06:15 PM
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i'm not fighting with you... I agree with you so there is no fight. I'm just explaining why i made the comment to the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 06:13 PM
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But in this specific example it deals with abuse of ones own child. When it comes to abuse of ones OWN kids, mothers by far are more likely to abuse their own children than fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 06:06 PM
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I think she was a nut bag, especially if she did it every time. LOL! women cheating is far more common than men molesting their own kids wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 06:01 PM
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Peaking at 50?? Not a chance. Peak is 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 06:00 PM
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It is true but only if the guy takes care of himself and doubly so if they also naturally look younger than they are. It isn't as common as guys like to pretend it is, but it is pretty easy to be a guy in their mid/late 30s dating women in their mid/late 20s. If the guy takes care of themself. It is a combination of genes and self care. Most women in their early 20s do not want to date men in their 30s though, even a modicum of self-awareness makes this obvious, most of them are barely past bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 05:47 PM
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it IS the 30s. 30s and sometimes 40s if the guy takes care of himself. Very very rarely is it 50s.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 05:14 PM
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They won't say it, but all men know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 05:12 PM
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This is such cope btw. Why on earth would a guy be hitting on a 60 year old woman?! I'd be re evaluating my life choices if i had to be hitting on 60 year old women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 05:08 PM
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As a guy I'm 100% fine with a GO bag. They won't need to use it, I'm not that type of partner, but if they want to be prepared that's fine. Also makes it much easier if I want the person to leave since I can just hand them their GO bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:48 PM

It's the reverse. Dating apps are designed with female hypergamy in mind to attract women to use them. Men are in abundance on dating apps, and men paying is what keeps dating apps afloat, so the entire app is designed to coerce men into paying, by making their experience miserable and promising that paying will make it better. They attract women by appealing to female hypergamy, which always has been a thing, always will. Dating apps are the problem, not women. Which is why men need to stop usi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:40 PM
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So I'd assume someone who wants to have a paternity test done has reasons to deem their partner isn't trust worthy. People don't just do paternity tests for funsies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:34 PM
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Trust has numerous levels You can be happy around people and not trust them fully, or trust them in certain areas but not others. It's not a binary. Only an extremely low IQ individual would have kids with someone they can’t trust. Only an extremely low IQ individual would think people are always trust worthy. Or be so arrogant to think they know everything about any individual. I don't even know everything about myself and how i will respond in certain potential situations, what situations I'll…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:18 PM
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*Women are horny for the Chad archetype 6'3 muscle bound dudes with chiseled jaws or *they're gold digging bitches who flee once the bank account is tapped or the guy descends in status ...I think you're eventually going to get to the point of saying BOTH or kind of 'all of the above'. Obviously it is both, not sure why you even brought this up as some sort of false choice when we both know the answer to it already Feels like you REALLY just deep down don't want to acknowledge just that. Like ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:54 PM
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exactly, so you should be concerned about someone using you for your money especially if you aren't wealthy... which is the opposite of what the OP said. They said you should NOT be concerned about if you aren't wealthy, which as you pointed out is obviously dumb. Hence me making the initial comment I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:57 PM
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Because if you don’t have a lot of money, there’s a good chance she’s not using you for…the money you don’t have? Obviously the person has some money though. $1000 is a $1000 whether it comes from a rich mans pocket or a poorer mans pocket. ​ Don’t give people access to your money until you know you can trust them. It’s common sense. Thats a completely separate discussion though. According to OP someone shouldn't even be caring about your point if they aren't wealthy. Which is obviously bullshit…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:20 AM
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And often, better men have no use for lesser men. They're a drain, they're time consuming, trying to lift up your lesser brothers takes time and energy, and men get busy chasing their own success, raising sons, tending to family and community. This is actually patently false and seems more like projection. Women have no use for lesser men, because by definition there are no resources to be obtained from them. Many men are dedicated to helping guys who are struggling, I do this in my own way when…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:12 AM
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Thing is, women on dating apps aren't even representative of the general population in any way because if a woman needs a dating app to get a date, it is almost certainly to chad chase. That or something is wrong with her. Normal women can get a date IRL without dating apps. They go on dating apps specifically to chad chase. Sort of like playing the lottery, pulling the lever and hoping for a chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:24 AM
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you're literally just repeating my point. You call the one that suits you harmless, you call the one that suits you harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:15 AM
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When Chad's away, Chad lights can play.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:06 AM
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If you aren't wealthy, why are you concerned about women using you for your money? ​ Because I'll have even less money than I already have is the super obvious answer that I'm sure even a kid can understand. What sort of a dumb question is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:06 AM
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You cultivate the vibe by being attractive, not by making her comfortable with "personality" If you're ugly you'll make her uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 11:57 PM
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lol how is this even a serious question? The answer ofc is no one cares about male selfies. Men post achievements etc which is much more interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:27 PM
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not true at all. You just have to be above average in looks. Because no one cold approaches much at all, if you are just above average in looks it's more than enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:20 PM
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Any guy on a dating app is certainly not cold approaching women because if he did he wouldn't be on a dating app because he'd quickly realise what a waste of time it is comparatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:18 PM
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simps online.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:17 PM

Doing the lords work 🙏🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:16 PM
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That's what I said, modern practices when it suits them, traditions when it suits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:13 PM
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That's nice and all but the data and stats that currently exist are for actual dating apps, not your definition of dating apps that seems to be "any app that uses the internet for communication", which is obviously nonsense. Dating apps are designed with the specific intent to make the experience as miserable as possible for men, to push them into paying money. It's an arena designed to make things difficult for men to match, so extrapolating that to all of social media is pretty silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:03 PM
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are you talking about modern progressive men or traditional men? Sounds like you are mixing both together. Most traditional men don't want the woman paying 50% of the expense in a marriage. They prefer stay at home mothers and are against the dual parent working household.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:20 PM
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Fashion choices for men are limited. Straying from traditional masculinity often leads to scrutiny. This limits our expression through clothing. ??? This is not true... I express myself significantly through my clothes and deliberately make it as unique as possible. Don't know about "scrutiny" but I've never had any problem striking up conversations or having ppl complement me on a certain item of clothing, or a style. ​ In conclusion, navigating modern dating as a man involves numerous societal…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:27 PM
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Modern when it suits them traditional when it suits them. That describes a lot of modern feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:19 PM
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50% of new relationships are formed online, which includes social media which is actually quite a big one. It doesn't just mean dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:16 PM
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The only men women find attractive at baseline are less than 1 in 10. the number is low, but it's not this low. I'd say it's about 3 in 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:13 PM
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If I have not had any sex before, she is by default the best sexual partner I have had A compliment from someone who knows nothing about what they are talking about is kinda worthless if you think about it for even a second. The "Ackshually you're my only partner so by default you're the best" really sounds a bit childish, I can't imagine a grown adult woman would take this seriously. ​ Maybe I am just crazy, but I feel like if I experience someone who is extremely talented at giving oral, if my…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:11 PM
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I personally have chosen to stay a virgin not for myself, but for my future partner. Nothing wrong with wanting to be a virgin to each their own, but your reasoning seems bizarre as hell. Doing it for someone else? Who almost certainly will NOT be a virgin. Do it for yourself not for others! I want her to know she is the best sexual partner for me. Wait how exactly does she know that? if she's the only one? Especially if she's not a virgin, this will make absolutely ZERO sense to her. I want her…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:04 PM
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Which is not what the bluepill recommends to do. It isnt a bluepill thing but as you say it quite well it’s a spineless simp thing. You know what, you're probably right about that, now that i really think about it. It is just a simp thing after all, not blue pill. I'm curious, do you live in the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 11:59 AM
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Tbh I don't think men can either if they don't experience it. I felt shame i was a virgin in my late teens. However I lost it by the time I was 20. I can only imagine the feeling gets worse if it goes on for longer than that, but just how bad... even i can't really imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 11:55 AM
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Pretty much all can sleep around especially since we are dealing solely with men with enough money to constantly pay for dates. I presume at least some of these types are looking for a genuine relationships, otherwise would they keep paying women to go on a dates if they just want sex (ie an escort with extra steps), when they could just pay a woman to have sex with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:33 AM
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Red pill doesn't say be a provider for random women who you barely know and has reciprocated nothing. Red pill teaches you that if it is optional for Chad, you should have enough self respect and that it should not be mandatory for you. Blue pill teaches men "its all equal" but then the blue pill man goes on a date and the bill comes and do you think if the woman hints or shows reservations about splitting that he stands up and insists on splitting the bill because "feminism means gender equalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:20 AM
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Yes but the men getting the "free sex" (i see women use this term a lot now, do women now want to be paid to sleep with the men they date?) and using women (mostly Chad) and the men giving the free dinners (blue pill simps) aren't even the same group of ppl, so just get your free dinners from blue pill simps and stop trying to make it seem like a righteous crusade lol. Chad ain't giving dinners to any women, so he ain't gonna care. That said, maybe teaching men not to be blue pill simps is a rig…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 09:34 AM

this is literally good you get to filter out the trash as soon as possible
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 09:14 AM

My first two dates are always coffee or brunch. Cheap, affordable, get to know the other person, can do other activities after if it goes really well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 09:12 AM
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I find it quite interesting that female take is almost exclusively thinking of the male loneliness purely from a dating/sex perspective. "They just want sex" "They want mandated girlfriends" "Most men are in relationships and having sex" Whereas I interpreted in as more as a lack of direction and guidance in the world that is can be very cold and unforgiving to men. A lack of caring issues that men face, crucially during the transition from boy to man, and this transition can get delayed to quit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:44 AM
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Exactly. Also the moment a woman has a son, it will certainly become a woman's problem. Just look at the rising popularity of Andrew Tate among school kids. The mere fact that his popularity omg school kids is even above 0% should be shocking far less as high as it currently is. This isn't a coincidence. If you have a teenage son, that shit absolutely is a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:27 AM
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It's not a women's problem on an individual level. It is on a societal level though, since ultimately it affects all society. That said it becomes a women's individual problem when they have a son who watches andrew tate and thinks he's great and are confused why on earth boys would look up to a moron like that. ​ We have not raised our men to be truly vulnerable, crippling them emotionally. No no no, last thing we need is more "vulnerable" men. Boys aren't being taught how to become men in a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:22 AM
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uh yes, have you never used a dating app in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:40 PM
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I said some experience mental breakdowns, not all, obviously... wth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:20 PM
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yeah, it doesn't help that when anyone mentions on here about approaching women IRL, a bunch of socially maladjusted women will jump in saying how many shouldn't cold approach cuz it is creepy and hardly ever works. I can tell you it works like 100x better than swiping on dating apps. It is quite common for men to swipe 100s of times on a dating app and not get a single match, far less a date. If even a below average guy approached 100s of women I guarantee even if he had zero social skills at t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:18 PM
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That transitioning from boy to man is an extremely stressful transition for young adult men and that many struggle intensely with it? You've never heard of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:13 PM
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Well I guess we all run into that wall the first time, but that's why you don't cohabit with someone and entwine your financial responsibilities with them. That said, i meant leave the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:08 PM
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Then instruct them to install a dating app.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:03 PM
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you've never heard of women in their mid 30s struggling with being single and childless and that they won't find someone as dating gets harder?!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:02 PM
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I meant women in their mid to late 30s who are single and finding dating much harder than it was in their 20s and are worried they won't find someone who are single. Or those who were in shitty marriages got divorced and are now in their late 30s with kids etc and finding life is much much more difficult being single than it was when they were childless in their 20s. I know many of those, you see many of them online complaining about online dating. My point was simply men and women have differen…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:46 PM
1

i guess heroin must be good for you then if heroin addicts keep going back and doing it. 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:13 PM
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There are ugly women out there that never get approached. It’s stupid how many guys seriously think all women have men wanting to date them Yes but that's because they are almost certainly obese. They literally just have to stop eating and they'd fix their dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:10 PM
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but the main problem is online dating yes, this is the main problem right here. get off the apps, you're basically fishing in a pool of trash then complaining all you get is trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:05 PM
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You are caring too much, or expecting too much from women. Just enjoy their company for what it is and however long it lasts and move on to the next. Plan the exit before the relationship even ends cuz it will end, so know where you will be heading next on your journey, cuz chances are it won't be with that person. Stop expecting a "life partner" or any of that crap, it's not gonna happen dude, womens feelings are way too random. It's like flipping a coin and expecting it to come up heads 100 ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 08:59 PM
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100% this. Any non-chad on a dating app is just wasting their time fishing for trash chad left behind basically. I'm of the firm belief if a woman has to resort to online dating for dates she is either chad chasing or something is wrong with her that she can't get dates IRL. Neither case is of any benefit to a non chad so best to steer clear of apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 08:55 PM
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Lmao your scenario is still literally a net negative result for men so how is that a benefit of marriage for men!!?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:42 PM
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ngl sounds like you have a Chad problem. Most guy's I know would prefer a women who was genuinely empathetic and would rate that over looks for a relationship. I absolutely would. If given the choice between a 10/10 model who is unempathetic and even a 6/10 who is genuinely empathetic and caring, it such and obvious choice, I'd chose the empathetic woman. Also FYI, empathetic women have pussies too that they can slam.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:32 PM
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So a man doesn't want to see his wife in the hospital? you can visit your partner in hospital without being married though!?!? Do you think if a guy as a child with his unmarried partner he has to sit in the fkn car park until the mother leaves the hospital!? Really scraping the absolute bottom of the barrel. ​ Doesn't want to benefit from tax, Cost of marriage, weddings and divorce outweigh any tax benefits. ​ widowers money Already explained that most marriages last 8 years. So unless the guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:25 PM
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And those only really matter to women. The only one is probably share insurance but i'm sure that probably doesn't need it, but either way that is so niche and it's not mattering to men much. Don't need to be married to have a mortgage together, don't need to be married to be each others representatives in medical emergencies. Don't need to be married for inheritance and if there is a tax benefit then that also is kinda moot as avg marriage last 8 years, men are generally the older partner and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:16 PM
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I'm mainly talking about from the man's perspective. Ofc it makes sense for women though. Stuff like inheritance is absolutely meaningless. Average marriage lasts 8 years, gotta be joking if you think any marriage gonna last until death, that's a thing of the past, women will bounce for literally any reason. Also men are usually older than the women they marry, also men die earlier than women. If I'm like 60 sure I'll get married if i have a partner then to ensure she has the most resources poss…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 06:07 PM
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I never said an attractive man can't be creepy. But most people can read social cues. If you're an ugly guy and can read social cues, you'll still have a high chance of being regarded as creepy. Chad who can read social cues will pretty much NEVER be considered creepy. At worst he would be considered annoying, but most women would just politely tell him they are not interested and wouldn't be like "omg this creepy guy tried to hit on me."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 06:04 PM
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i pee sitting so i guess it takes a lifetime for some.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 06:01 PM
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Why would society be crippled if some ppl have mental breakdowns, ppl have mental breakdowns all the time. Society is still here. I also mentioned it happens to men too, society isn't crippled by that and men having mental breakdowns would have much more of an effect on society than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 06:00 PM
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Where did i say this always happens, and also never said from turning 30, i said in their 30s. Also I like how the claim that guys have mental breakdowns, over the transition from boy to man is over looked or just accepted as true (because it is true) but if you dare suggest it happens to women as they age then out comes the skepticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:48 PM
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If you're a man and a woman hits you even once leave immediately. (in fact this should be obvious for any relationship of any any dynamic) Sure a woman hitting a guy is mostly inconsequential even if they intend harm since unless they have a weapon they have nowhere near enough strength or knowledge of how to fight to be a threat. But that doesn't mean you should accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 01:39 PM
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Except it wasn't designed to accommodate me at all which is what you said. I already know what issues the equivalent woman faces, I have a mother, I know what she experienced growing up in the UK in 70s as an immigrant. It's why she absolutely refused to let me use dialect from our ethnic background as a child, if she caught me using slang I'd get told off to speak properly. This was to ensure that my accent was 100% standard RP which to this day remains the case. I could go through a whole laun…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 01:25 PM
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Only 10 % of divorcees (male and female) get any kind of alimony at all. Well 0% of non marriages get alimony so i like my odds there. The most common reason for alimony is that the spouse stayed home with the kids, forgoing their own earnings and career development… Yet the alimony payments often have literally nothing to do with the women's career, but only to do with the mans income. Since when is a womans career earnings and development tied to the income of the man she is with? Also if she …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 12:21 PM
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Maybe true for white men. World sure as hell wasn't designed to accommodate me. I do think all men underestimate the advantages of being men though. Once you overcome the initial shock of how harsh the world can be for men as you transition from boy to man, it really isn't that hard, but many men struggle with this transition as it is quite intense and extremely lonely. Those who languish in this stage for too long will undoubtably feel screwed over, possibly with mental issues. In my 30s now an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 12:12 PM
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I don't know why but most men don't seem to understand what makes men attractive and it prevents them from changing to be more pleasing to women. I'm confused how you can say this and label yourself blue pill man. It's literally believing and being fed blue pill stuff that makes men not understand what makes men attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 12:04 PM
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I also think men (living as women) might learn that it's annoying to get hit on by guys when they go out, but that knowledge would not help men (once they transitioned back to being men) because it might actually cause men to be more bashful and self-conscious about hitting on women. It's only annoying when the guy is ugly, otherwise it is fine. If anything menwill realise that what most women consider "creepy" is just a guy being ugly. From a guys perspective ugly fat guy A hitting on them and …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:57 AM
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what use are they gonna get out of it exactly? They'll go on dating apps, get zero matches. Go outside have no one will pay attention to them. Cry for help as they normally do, no one cares, and be like, "damn one more month of this shit?" and just wait it out. The benefits of being a man only materialise through the mindset changes and character development that living such a life forces on you. This only happens after years. Can't do much in 1 month tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:55 AM
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If you think that, that's probably the only empathy you're capable of delivering. Most guys (who aren't an incel) very quickly realises that pussy is far more plentiful relative to genuine empathy from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:50 AM
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Plus no one looses „half their stuff“. That’s a blatant lie and you know it. lol what? Not sure who you are gonna convince with that, when we can all see examples of guys having to pay wives tons of alimony and split assets. You can pool and get a mortgage without being married. Many people do this all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:47 AM
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the entire tax argument is moot. average wedding cost is like 30K. Average cost of divorce is like 5K. ​ So unless you're getting like 3K tax benefits a year getting married it is a wash, and that's not even getting into the losing half your stuff part.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:33 AM
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100%
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:25 AM
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I am German, to go on your significant others health insurance, you need to be married. How much is this benefit worth in monetary amount?. Is it even a benefit? To be an heir by law, you need to be married. Just write a will. Should be doing this anyway. To have the tax allowance in case of inheritance you need to be married. Rarely a benefit to the man, most marriages aren't going to last long and if it did, the man is far more likely to die first. Tax allowance in general are different when y…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:20 AM
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All in all women in their early 20s have life on very easy/spectator mode, full of privileges. Life is easy and fun, can do no wrong. Men at this age meanwhile are playing life on extreme difficulty mode. By the 30s the women now have to progress to playing life at normal difficulty and many can't handle this and fall to pieces, have mental breakdowns etc. Once they are over 40 if they haven't found a beta bux to marry (or they divorce him) then life starts to progress to hard mode, for them. Gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:11 AM
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One privilege of a man for example is that in my corporate environment, my expertise is usually taken as matter-of-fact by non-experts. Not to derail because I see point this often, and it is true but with a caveat. The darker your skin the less this privilege applies, to the point where you'd be crazy to rely on it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:01 AM
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I don't see anything wrong with the arrangement per se. Especially if the house was hers before the relationship. What she has done is the way all relationships should be done, none of this co mingling of finances get half my stuff stolen type bullshit. Just that if the roles were reversed all her girlie friends would be telling her the guy needs to marry her so she can get half the house and society would pressure the guy to marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:46 AM
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I don't know a single western country where those require marriage. Certainly not in the EU, but sure maybe some backwards countries with out dated laws exist somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:40 AM
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Only distasteful if the men aren't exceptional. The bar for women being accepted while half naked is extremely low. Just don' be fat. The bar for men being accepted half naked by women is basically "be top 1% of physique"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:38 AM
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People have finite emotional energy. Most women don't understand guys and think they way they as women experience the world is the way a guy experiences the world. Also it seems your view on dating is heavily skewed by dating apps. Dating apps are designed to make men fail and be unhappy. Uninstall all of them, never use them and meet women IRL. I've seen girls often boast about their intutional radar and how they say that they can filter out needy, desperate nice guys. Then I don't understand w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:31 AM
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This story is common as hell, some women just aren't very bright and weren't meant to procreate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:00 AM
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this is why guys shouldn't be getting married marriage is a trap for guys, which is why women want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 08:51 AM
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None of those things require marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 08:49 AM

ngl i found that as well. Small sample size of 2, so far but it's 2 for 2. Meanwhile rest of the thread is just pure cap.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 01:10 AM
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i don't care if men paint their nails, maybe 1 out of like 200 men i see have painted nails, how is that even "modern man" when I can't remember the last time i even seen a guy with painted nails. Only ppl i know who watch tiktok are like genz. mostly teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 11:25 PM
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Random public spaces (🚫 super risky if she doesn’t find you instantly attractive ) Not risky if you: aren't ugly and present well (only need to be like top 30% or so in looks to be relatively safe) Don't show your interest until you get at least some positive signs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 08:03 PM
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Parental love is the closest thing to what most would consider "love". Everything else is just attachment and/or love of what someone can do for them. Not the individual themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 07:54 PM
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Exactly. Want the benefits of traditionalism without being a traditionalist himself. No different from those women who want the benefits of feminism and equality in society, but still want men to pay for all their shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:17 PM
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100% this. Thinking she should dress more modestly isn't the problem. That's a perfectly valid discussion that can be had privately and mutual understanding reached. The passive aggressiveness of going online and deliberately airing laundry in public to shame her is a form of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:14 PM
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Well your trad guy is pretty much as bog standard as it gets I mean your question is basically a version of this: A. Modern guy: Splits everything 50/50, from bills to household responsibilities, practises good self grooming/skin care. Wears designer clothes. Has a healthy diet, enjoys vegan food but isn't necessarily vegan. Watches netflix and youtube videos. B. Trad guy: Drinks tons of beer and invites his buddies around to watch sports and have BBQs almost every weekend. Refuses to do housewo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:09 PM

1 I'm fine with pretty much 100% of early feminism. Right to vote, right to be able to work etc, equal treatment, not property of husbands, right to divorce etc. The end result hasn't been entirely positive but for the most part it is and the aspects that were negative (ie dual parent households needing both parents to work) have more to do with capitalism than feminism itself. Latter stage feminism i have much more disagreements with. I don't consider myself a feminist, I'm just not an anti-fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:57 PM
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lol what? the bar woman have to pass is low but there is still a bar. Mostly it's just don't be obese though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:39 PM
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Sorry but you'd have to be insane not to think controlling men are almost always a red flag. it's not comparable to "drinking water" Any man who has to control a woman;s actions is insecure. Just leave the relationship if a woman is doing things you don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:28 PM
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stop pretending to be dumb. You could simply put has a good skincare routine, watches youtube, which would be far more accurate, but you chose to put dumb shit like paint nails and tiktok, which is far more rare. Might as well put "slaps his wife when she steps out of line" for trad guy if you want to go that route.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:16 PM
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What percentage of modern guys are painting his nails and getting eyebrows done? Come on... kinda deliberately trying to make modern guy seem overly feminine. Modern guy is basically just a parody of a blue pill white knight male feminist ally, which nobody likes. Most ppl are not vegan... also watches tiktok? What is modern guy like 15 years old as well. Why not mention "has a solid skin care routine", which is something that is typically not associated with trad guy but is a positive and pract…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:13 PM

And yet I am. Never voted conservative, never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:06 PM
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Where did he say it had to be better than 99.99%? He said better than 80% which is true. If you don't have a physical appearance better than 80% of men you are classed as "unattractive" or below average by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:18 PM

Except it isn't because pickup artistry has nothing to to do with handling long term or monogamous relationships, marriage, cohabiting with women, how to protect yourself as a man in relationships , what type of women to avoid, when to leave, signs that she is about to monkey branch etc. It is solely about the how to seduce multiple women with zero concern about anything else. Knowing about female hypergamy and monkey branching is not pickup artistry, spotting red flags in women is of no use in …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:11 AM
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Well demonising everyone who disagrees with blue pill garbage as racists sure won't help those "pipelines"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 03:03 AM
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Sounds like a you thing yes, turns out red pillers are diverse individuals with different political and social views! who knew!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:31 AM
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I never bring up my job, unless asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:30 AM
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Any one can edit wikipedia. Red pill is about dating, relationships and how men should interact with and attract women. ​ Some ppl can introduce other ideologies into it and those ideologies will be mostly conservative because red pillers generally are more right wing. But it has not thing to do with conservatism. I don't go around calling blue pillers communists because most blue pillers are probably liberal/leftist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:04 AM

Actual answer is validation is the most important thing, but you won't get that answer from women ofc. Validation from other men, validation from her peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:01 AM
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No I explained why, I perceive it as her lifestyle choices being incompatible with mine. I prioritise enjoying life over working, someone who is a corporate ladder climber in the usual areas like finance, banking, management consultancy, lawyers etc I really don't want to hear more than once about their work on a date. No one finds this interesting. My focus on life is time, not money. I choose not to earn 6 figures because the benefits of me earning 100K do not outweigh the sacrifices. I earn e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:55 AM
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Lmao it's always "baggage" when guys have preferences lmao. Why is it not "baggage" when a woman wants a guy earning above average salary. But it's baggage when I don't want a woman who is a corporate climber type because it is incompatible with my view on life. 🤡 Also I'm talking specifically about corporate ladder climber jobs. If a woman is like a doctor or a dentist, or nurse, teacher etc I don't have an issue with them working hard or talking about their job as it is interesting and are job…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:50 AM
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sure because acknowlging female hypergamy and that looks money status is what matter means you're a conservative. 🤡🤡🤡 ​ I've watched red pill content on youtube, i see misogyny sure, not racism. Also many red pill creators are black. I'm black. Am I racist too? Racist to who? Many aren't conservative, i'm not. Just calling red pill racism/conservatism is laziness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:15 AM

It would work, but dating apps will combat this since the whole point of dating apps is to make sure men don't have a positive outcome and women do. This has nothing to do with them being anti-men or pro-women, it is simply for profit reasons. Dating apps can already optimise their systems to make online dating work, they choose not to for profit. That said i'd love to see something like your idea happen. I'm sure some black pillers with too much time on their hands would do something like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:57 PM
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sounds like it has come to mean that for you. I don't know or care for any of that and most of the discussion i see here have nothing to do with racism or capitalism. I've never seen a single red pill person be racist here. Sounds like you are just associating red pill with being a conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:55 PM
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like what is any of that. I'm red pill and it honestly makes zero sense. ​ Red pill is simply understanding women care about looks money status, and focusing on that is more important than any other fluffy nonsense, and knowing about female hypergamy and monkey branching, and that women love men for what they can do for them, not the person themselves. I have no idea what race-realism (seems this is something about white supremacy??) I'm literally black so this may come as a shock, but I'm not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:29 PM
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bro wtf is that word salad gobbledy gook. I literally don't even know what the actual fuck any of that means.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:52 PM
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Men want to be loved for "who they are" because they get lied to about what it means for a woman to "love". They assume that women "love" them as a person, so it's not unreasonable to expect that if the lie gets repeated to them constantly from birth. Also doesn't help that many women probably genuinely believe they love the guy himself and not what he provides for them, but their actions always say otherwise Women love what a guy can provide for them, not the guy himself, most men figure this o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:55 PM
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I take the words of people i trust at face value... until their actions suggest otherwise, then those words lose meaning. Trauma dumping is pointless for men. It solves nothing. Leave the trauma dumping to women and children. When they dump trauma people actually respond positively and help them out. When men trauma dump they just expose their weakness and they still have to sort the shit out themselves anyway, so why bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:52 PM
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It's why I avoid women driven to climb the corporate ladder. I work to live not live to work. She'll expect me to do the same, I won't, she'll resent me for it, I won't care. I don't mind educated women, but I avoid the ones that make a big deal of it or look down on others with less education. If a woman started talking about her job on a date i'd usually change the topic, if they kept bringing it up that was a big red flag to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:50 PM
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All of those are literally objectively true except for: If you want to attract and keep quality women, the four pillars are looks, money, social status and personality. There are 3 pillers looks, money, status, don't lump personality in there, blue pillers think that matters. If you have the other 3 you'd have to almost deliberately try to have a fucked up enough personality not to be able to attract women. Showing emotion / insecurity / weakness in front of a woman carries the risk of her losin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:16 PM
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Take what people tell you, especially if its important, at face value. Its more likely to be honest than not. Absoutely not if their actions are contrary to it. If someone says one thing and their actions indicate another, only a fool believes their words. Actions don't lie. The words that come out of someone's mouth however can be a lie. More than dominance, women (people, really) admire perseverance. Don't know about that one chief. Women don't care about virtues, only tangible things. ​ Is on…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:10 PM
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then definitely the normal guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 04:29 PM
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In that case, if they follow them but think they are a bunch of morons then fine. If they take them seriously then hell no. Literally anyone is better than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 03:11 PM
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Well if you define red piller as andrew tate then obviously you know the answer so why even ask this question. Though I'll go further and say even if i had a choice between someone who is red pill like myself (who thinks andrew tate is an absolute moron) and a normie/blue piller, I'd still prefer she choose the normie/blue piller as someone like that is much more easily used and she'll always have the upper hand in that relationship. Sure it will suck to be the guy, but hey someone was always go…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 11:17 AM

I'm surprised you don't know the answer to this already what are you even doing mate. Don't get gaslit. Ignore her crying, nothing hardens my hard more than a woman who cheats then cries. They are crying because they got caught, never because they are sorry for what they did to you. Remember that. ​ When a woman cheats it's not like when a man cheats. If a man cheats the relationship is salvageable, (imo the woman should just leave as i think cheating is morally unforgivable, but if the woman wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 10:50 AM
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Because those types of "feminists" want all the benefits of feminism but none of the downsides.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:22 AM
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this will seem harsh but do not your waste time chasing the stereotypical "highly educated" "lean in" high earning career women as female hypergamy means they only want men who earn more than them. No need to kill yourself earning 200k to court these women, when you can find good looking women earning 1/10th of that who don't expect millionaire lifestyles and will be more than happy with someone earning 60K. And a woman who is a high earner is of zero benefit to a man anyway as she wants a man t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:04 AM
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Watch every single reply be "blah blah i don't care about a mans salary" Suddenly almost 100% of women don't care about mans salary. Anyone believing this bullshit needs their head examined. 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 12:16 AM
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Doesn't matter if it is exclusive to women or not. Also they can chase chads and monkey branch without cheating. Women will just tell their bf they "need some space" or need to take a break then go fuck chad and that's basically now "not cheating". Online dating shows Top 10% of men get 60% of matches. What online dating is like for guys, according to the stats (qz.com) Bottom 50% of men get like 5% of matches. It's not hard to see most women are chasing chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 12:11 AM
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On the flip apparently women are just these shallow fucks that will do anything for chads. Yet evidence shows that if the whole 80% of women chase 20% of men vs, then why are at the very least, more than 20% of people in monogomous relationships? ​ 80% of women chase 20% of men is literally a fact though? Also your statement isn't contradictory at all. You can be in a monogamous relationship and still chase chad. Women monkey branch all the time. Monkey branching involves just constantly pursing…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 11:41 PM
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Because if too many men realise that women don't "love" men for who they are, they "love" what a man can do for them, most men would probably never settle down and get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 11:34 PM
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Give it a break with that bull shit you know what he meant. Nobody believes "be funny" = she drops her panties. fk out of here with that strawman bullshit. When a guy posts a thread saying they struggle dating, I just post the obvious correct answer which is "improve your looks" but blue pillers will waffle on about all sorts of shit. "work on personality", "be funny", "be thoughtful", "make her feel comfortable", making the guy juggle all sorts of shit in his head and hyper analyse his words wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 11:31 PM
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100% this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 11:18 PM
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lmao redpill is now "manipulating women" and that's "misogynist" Okay sure. Redpill is about men learn to protect themselves in relationship. If redpill is "misogynist" then blue pill is "misandrist" because actively teaches men things that harm them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 11:15 PM
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Oh definitely. I definitely don't hide happy emotions but there are times i'd mute my emotions. In the past no, but after being red pilled yes, i'll mute my happy emotions, not for fear the outcome but to enhance the response and feelings the women gets when I do show i'm really happy. If I show I'm super happy for everything she does the dopamine hits get less and less and it stops mattering. Sadly push-pull dynamics are a real thing, as much as I hate that they are. I'd prefer to not have to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:39 PM

Yeah, which is why it always baffles me when people suggest men do online dating. Why would men willingly go on a platform that is solely designed to make them frustrated and pay money for nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:28 PM

The profile pic is literally the weight filter and it is far better than having women select it since all the fat women will pick "curvy" to try and blend in with the actual curvy women meaning you'd still need to use photos to weed them out anyway. It's trivially obvious when a woman is trying to hide she is fat. No full body photos = FAT.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 06:51 PM

actually you're wrong. yeah but hey don't let actual facts get in the way of your bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 06:45 PM
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It would reduce obviously. People put on attractive outfits to get more attention. The problem arises because they can't control who they get attention from. Women only want attention from Chad, but with the good comes the bad and that means they also get attention from neckbeard Brad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 06:44 PM
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Not sure how looking at women and naturally thinking she is sexy is the same as being a potential assaulter. But if a woman wants to go around the place in full tinfoil hat thinking every guy is a sexual assaulter in waiting because he looked at her then she is free to live her life in eternal paranoid mode. Seems like a pretty stressful life to me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 06:34 PM

literally false. Half of couples meet online. online does not mean dating apps, but every time this statistic is brought up it is because the person making it assumes online = dating app. it means any mechanism over the internet can mean through forums, social media etc
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 06:27 PM

If you don't see a full body shot and all the photos are taken from above, you already know whats up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 06:25 PM

These apps are designed for women to be happy and for men to be unhappy and pay money to be happy (they'll still be unhappy after paying, but by the time they figure it out the dating app company will have made $100s from them and another sucker will replace him next year). ​ With that in mind you'll quickly understand why there isn't a weight body/type preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 06:23 PM
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I’ll be specific. I’ll see a post where someone clearly says “My husband…” and all the comments are like “your partner” I've never seen or heard of this happening in my entire life. partner is someone you work with. Not someone you’re romantically involved with.​ You know you could just go use a dictionary: Oxford Dictionary: "the person that you are married to or having a sexual relationship with" Partner is fine, i use partner, so do others. Deal with it, no one is forcing you to use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:43 PM
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You'd have to be straight up insane to tell a woman that at all at any point in a relationship imo. Women, especially women in their 20s have absolutely no tolerance for social awkwardness in a partner. Hide that shit like you are burying pirate treasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 08:39 PM
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I pretty much always show positive emotions., very rare for me to hide positive emotions I very rarely show negative emotions and if I do it is always a deliberate conscious decision to show them. I never display spontaneous negative emotions under any circumstance. Reason for not displaying most negative emotions in front of others is because there is pretty much zero benefit to a man showing the majority of negative emotions, (especially spontaneously), in a relationship or otherwise social si…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 07:22 PM
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The red flags in women in their 30s are much more apparent than women in their 20s. Some women in their 20s develop their red flags over the course of the relationship, so you're not entirely safe there either The ones in their 30s usually display their red flags like a badge of honour, like in the thread above from r/AskWomenOver30. So of them are unashamedly proud of "who they are" which a lot of the time is the signal for you to run far away. Either way it is a dice roll. Ultimately if you go…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:46 PM
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That comes no where close to offsetting the fact that a portion of his resources (time/money) will be going to someone who is not her and her offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:42 PM
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except it literally was. ​ not my fault you aren't paying attention to the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:07 PM
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well the thing being discussed is literally my own story, so he was 100% right but hey, don't let evidence get in the way of you being wrong!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 03:24 PM
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Not weird in fact, I never mentioned since it wasn't relevant to the topic, but the ex-fiance in the story above was me. I've never spoken to her since we broke up. That was over a decade ago. So I have no idea what excuse should would give for her dumb decision, but even before we broke up, when i forgave her for cheating (yes i was blue pilled as fk back then), she was already telling me she thinks he is manipulative at the time and that she made a mistake getting involved with him. (yet still…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 03:20 PM
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I don't talk about my dating issues in my life, once you're redpilled it is effectively a waste of time, I can handle it myself just fine. If i had to it would almost never be a woman, that would be beyond pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 03:14 PM
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Sounds like the perfect red flag screener. I think the more fundamental issue then is that for these men, dates are so rare that once they get one, the desperation beta mode kicks in. They need to fix their looks and get out there and meet more women so that dates are so rare that they feel they need to waste time with leeches like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 01:30 PM
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Yup. 100% this. Absolutely clownish levels of idiocy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 01:24 PM
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now this is an actual redflag post. Not the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 01:11 PM
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Dude if you can't afford $250-$500 for an engagement ring why are you getting married? (tbh you shouldn't be getting married in the first place but if you are, you then buying a ring at that price is fine)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 01:08 PM
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I don't think your demands are unreasonable in the slightest. Your demands are based almost entirely in practicality which most guys would (should) appreciate. Anyone complaining about that likely just projecting their own financial insecurity. If you can't spend $250 on an engagement ring in a western country then you probably should even be considering getting married. I buy rings myself that are in that price range for precisely the same reason. I want something durable and comfortable that l…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 01:04 PM
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I know a woman who cheated and broke off an engagement to leave for a guy whose own mother (yes the guy's own mother!) warned her was an overall bad person just like his father (who the mother divorced). All her friends warned her about the guy too. She still got with him, got physically abused. Still married him (!) abuse continued, had kids (!), abuse continued, and eventually divorced. And yes she liked him because he was nice to her (at the time) That changed as soon as bridges with the ex-f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:55 PM
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That's a societal change not a man change. Women fought to be in the work place, the result is that it now needs both man and woman to work to support a household. I don't say this as a negative against women fighting for equal rights, I'm just pointing out the natural end result is obviously that the average male CANNOT support two people on one income like in the past if the average womans salary goes up faster than the average male salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 10:40 AM
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Because they are out working in locations that often don't make sense to post tiktok videos. Tradwives get attention from men because men like to attractive women doing "womanly" things. Even if "Tradhusbands" were interested in tiktok and instagram views, ain't no women logging on to tiktok to see some guy working on an oilrig or construction project. It's mostly guys who would watch that content, so tagging it "Tradhusbands" would be bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 10:36 AM
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I don't think $250-$500 is lot of money to pay for an engagement ring tbh and i do agree if you are gonna get one it should be one that lasts. I paid like $300 for one I was a graduate student at the time with barely any money. You do seem a bit hyper into rings but that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 10:28 AM
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How do you know she didn't want you before? Most of the women over 30 i've dated never met me before.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 08:57 AM
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I hope so, i guess if what you say is accurate then it just highlights what I always say Men should never get dating advice from women on the internet. It's mostly socially maladjusted women who are extremely loud and obnoxious and who drown out any sane women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 08:31 AM
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Not all women in their 30s are gonna be trash, come on. Just gotta remember whoever someone is in their 30s, that's likely who they will be for the remainder of their life. Any issues they have are pretty much permanent. Don't date the ones in their 30s who still think they are in their 20s though (along with all the entitlement that comes with being in their 20s). Nothing is more of a huge red flag than that. ​ If you want an example of the shit to look out for from women in their 30s just head…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:40 AM
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Oh don't get me wrong i'm not saying it only works for chad. I'm saying it is only optimal for chad. Online dating can still work for like the top 30% of men, but the further down you go, the more it becomes sub-optimal to just meeting women IRL. You'll meet much better quality women IRL as a 7/10 than on dating apps. TLDR For straight people dating apps are: For women: Validation and dopamine dispensers For Chad: Pick 'n mix fuck fests For Below average men: Mental trauma inducers For all other…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:32 PM
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Yeah… Because walking up to random strangers in the middle of their weekly grocery errands is the perfect recipe to have deep, engaging conversations… Sure. You can have meaningful convos with people anywhere, if you actually are an interesting person and find an interesting person to talk to. Common good places are: Department stores particularly fashion focused ones. For me this is easily the best. Airports or train stations/Cruises/Holiday resorts: super easy to meet new people and lots of in…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:57 PM
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Correct. And what part of that says any woman can get on Tinder date chad!? If you are aware of "general red pill ideology" then you'd be aware that it is commonly said that all women CAN'T possibly get a Chad on dating apps because all women are chasing what is effectively the top 5% of men. The top 30% of women might get pumped and dumped by chad, but it won't be much more than that. If you didn't get a chad then maybe you in the other 70%.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:34 PM
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Do what works for you then, no one is stopping you. If club and bar chicks are your thing then go do that. I prefer environments where I can get to know people, preferably when they are sober and actually have interesting conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:18 PM
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So basically your complaint is that women now have access to better quality men and that sucks cuz they won't give you a chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 09:16 PM

Could not disagree more. It's one of the best qualities to have, but it is extremely difficult to maintain this quality without getting fucked over in life. I went through a period where I thought it was a horrible quality to have for man, and straight up tried to erase that aspect of my personality. Ultimately I realised it was such a fundamental part of who I was, that to erase it would mean I literally wouldn't be myself. The solution wasn't to be selfish or disregard others, it was to learn …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 09:14 PM
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Because according to the men here all women can make a profile on tinder and in no time find a chad. Wait where exactly did I say this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:34 PM
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wait so in your mind, for online dating to work for a woman they literally have to get a Chad? so It's top 10% of men or bust?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:32 PM
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If you're unattractive then maybe. But if you want to cold approach with the intention to date then you obviously should focus on your physical appearance first.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:49 PM
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you can talk with chads, but if you're not very attractive he'll probably just ghost you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:45 PM
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It seems to be mainly an american thing. Either american women are overly entitled or american men are just straight up simps, or both. I'm not paying for anything more than a coffee on a first date to see if we have any chemistry. Certainly not going to a restaurant as a first date, that's a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:42 PM
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If by miss out on, you mean dodge entitled women then sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:39 PM
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I offered my alternative - a man should pay for inexpensive dates to show that he is willing to provide, then, as he receives more physical affection, he then pays for more expensive dates. That's basically prostitution with extra steps. Why waste time doing that, just go see an escort. ​ . She might even eventually like him enough that she offers to split dates just to ensure that he doesn't leave her for another woman. bruh if she don't lift a finger for the initial dates there liekly won't be…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:34 PM
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Same, being from the UK it is just so normal, I've never dated anyone who hasn't been okay with splitting the bill. I seriously think it is a US thing. Mind truly gets blown by some of the entitlement I hear from women in america. Just the other day women were acting like it was normal for a guy to pay for an uber to bring her to a first date. And one guy was saying he's fine with it and that it was a privilege to be able to do something like that for a woman Fucking insanity mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:26 PM
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There's no actual reasons dating apps couldn't work better, but women. Women are the roadblock the road block isn't women, the road block is the fact that dating apps by design aren't meant to help find people relationships. Especially men. They are designed to lonely exploit men into paying for premium features, making it as difficult as possible while holding out a carrot on a stick. Never use a product that is fundamentally designed to do the opposite of what you want it to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:18 PM
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If you're a woman it works, if you're a man it's mostly pointless and is vastly inferior to just going out and meeting women IRL. 90% of men should never touch these apps ever as they are not designed to help you get dates, but to make you part with money for premium features. Unless you're a literal Chad you aren't overcoming this fact. I know the limits of my looks, so I leave online dating for the 9/10 and 10/10 chads and never waste my time with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:14 PM
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This is purely just noise from a small group of socially maladjusted women on the internet. Men should not be listening to women on the internet when it comes to dating advice. The shit they believe is not normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:10 PM
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As I said, just don't be ugly. The bar isn't that high, it just takes effort. (unless you're really short, in which case you're kinda screwed) Attractive ppl don't need to walk up to random strangers to date, but the point is they can. If someone they find extremely attractive or interesting appears, they have the ability to just walk up and talk to them and get to know them and go from there. Meanwhile someone who can't do it just sits in a corner stealing glimpses at women they are attracted t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:05 PM
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it seems you don't even know what cold approach is, that's the problem. what that person described is literally cold approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:34 PM
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It literally isn't. It means approaching someone you have no prior connection or knowledge of. That's it. What you do beyond that point is separate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:33 PM
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Effort put into social skills is beneficial in every single aspect of life, not getting dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:31 PM
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But you're not even near her so her body language literally has nothing to do with you. You approach her and then you see if she is attracted to, you can't do it before that lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:27 PM
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If she doesn't find you attractive, spending months becoming her friend is unlikely to change her answer. Just one minor correction: it will never change her answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:22 PM
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lmao that's hilarious. I cold approach all the time, I'm not roaming the damn streets, begging for attention, I've got things I'm doing while i'm outside and you encounter ppl as you go about your daily stuff and you just talk to people, it's something I enjoy doing. If someone has an outfit I find unique, and I comment on it, or if someone is trying some at a supermarket or restaurant and I ask them "Is that any good, I might try it". I'm not begging for attention, if anything I'm giving my att…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:20 PM
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who says you have to use a cookie cutter method on everyone? If a person is socially awkward and can't carry a conversation then maybe they have to do a canned routine, but if a person can't carry a conversation then they need to fix that before cold approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:09 PM
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There is no try hard shit here at all, it's literally just socialising and being friendly The words you use speaks more about your own issues, (proposition, pester, bothered) as in you are projecting the reaction you think you would get if you tried it, because most people are insecure when it comes to talking to strangers. Really, it literally is just a conversational skills and being observant and understanding body language, both how to use it and how to read it. There is no suave James Bond-…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:03 PM
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most people don’t like being propositioned by random strangers. They do if the person propositioning them is attractive and they are interested in the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:51 PM
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clubs are almost universally trash but sure certain bars can be good. location dependent ofc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:23 PM
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Well i guess i'm an elite model then.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 02:18 PM
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Yup i mention this a lot when ppl ask for tips on cold approach. If i want to cold approach a girl in a location where we both can't escape, ie a train. I do it about 2 minutes before my stop, if the interaction goes well and my stop is coming up, I'll just say, "hey was nice talking to you, I gotta get off at <insert stop> but you seem really interesting,, here's my number, if you're ever in the area or just fancy a free coffee on me, send me a message" Ofc some accept it and never message me, …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:28 PM
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This is absolutely not true btw. You don't have to be attractive, but you don't need to any where near an elite model.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:48 PM
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I'm surprised a woman even mentioned being this direct. That said imo it's generally not a good idea to be that direct unless you're sure the woman at least is some what interested in your presence, maybe she smiled at you etc, maybe she seems a very outgoing person who is receptive to that sort of approach. I prefer to start a convo and find out one aspect of them that might be a mutual interest, which for me is usually fashion. Lingering/following is an absolute no no unless it's a place you'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:47 PM
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Women want mostly to hangout with each other/go about their day and care little for men approaching them Women don't want unattractive men approaching them. Don't be ugly you won't have an issue. ​ This is mostly about self respect. If you love and respect yourself as a man, you would not beg for attention, dates or sex. You would just live your life day to day and vibe How is this begging for attention or dates or sex, it is a way to meet new people, form new social circles and find new potenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:25 PM
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lmao I didn't even know that was a thing, I thought you were calling me a psycho (esp since my post got downvoted, not sure why ppl would downvote good skincare, practicing good hygiene and dressing well, but hey ho!) I watched the movie ages ago but never paid any attention to the routine as I never cared about skincare back then, but just rewatched the scene now. Main difference is i don't use face masks as I use Tretinoin nightly and I found face masks to be excessively stripping on top of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:48 AM
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I'm not even close to a 10. I'm a 6.5-7 at best works just fine and is lots of fun. I meet so many interesting ppl. Clubbing is literally the worst unless you're in your early 20s,
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:50 AM
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How do you get to know them then? mind read from afar?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:42 AM
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Uh, you go on dates to get to know them. You don't just walk up to random women and ask if they want to be in a relationship with you. da fuk? Not to mention that depending on the context, it can absolutely terrify a woman, because she has no idea what you will do to her if she says no. Don't be ugly, don't approach her in dark parking lots, it will be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:37 AM
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why not both, social circles are finite. Why limit myself to a few dozen women in my social circles when I can meet ppl from any where? I've had tons of success from cold approach, not sure how you can say it hardly works, women don't even approach men so what would you know about how successful it can be? It is way more successful than dating apps. most of my dates i've had have been from cold approach by far.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:33 AM
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Yeah definitely in my case. My skin routine is more comprehensive than pretty much every woman i've ever met. Unless she is literally a dermatologist it is extremely unlikely she knows more about skin care and skin care products than me. ​ I never leave the house looking scruffy, always dressing well even to just go do shopping nearby. Always brush my teeth prior to leaving the house etc. I always want to feel good about myself no matter where I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:07 AM
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I do not think that a man needs to know how to cold approach as a life skill, though. Of course you as a woman don't think that lol. Dating for women in their 20s and 30s is just easy mode, no effort required. Just open a dating app upload pictures, job done. So ofc you don't see the need to learn to cold approach. ​ Also cold approach is just socialising basically. It's just social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:48 PM
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Most women aren't genuine feminists in america then I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 04:34 PM
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Well that's not been my experience. Most ppl are happy to be paid a compliment or have a very brief chat about something going on around them. If the convo goes well, and I sense they might be interested, then i might take it from there, if not, then it's just a simple fleeting encounter and everyone is happy. Nowadays I literally don't do it to date, as I don't need to, But I still do it for the practise as being able to cold approach is very important skill for a guy to always have, whether th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 04:28 PM
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never said there was anything wrong with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 02:31 PM
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Facial features can be changed easily. Most people are overweight. Being low body fat (12-15% for men) dramatically changes how one's face looks. Most men are overweight so their facial shape isn't even very apparent as it is layered with fat and they are handicapping themselves unnecessarily. Women look fine with a bit of extra facial and if they go too low in body fat their face can start to look too masculine. Men generally look much worse with facial fat for the exact same reason, it looks m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:10 PM
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I'm gonna assume by experiencing love you mean experiencing a relationship, because "love" is vague and can mean anything to anyone. You can be in a relationship and not experience "love", though it depends on whatever that word means to you. I think what ppl call love is just the attachment and dependency that comes with entwining your life with someone else, and isn't anything particularly "special", it is something you experience with anyone you spend lots of time with imo, but that's a tange…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:32 AM
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It's to weed out these type quickly. At some point i want to find out if she is a leech, i'd prefer it be sooner rather than later. Thankfully it's actually very rare in the UK for the woman to take issue with splitting the bill. It seems it is primarily an american thing, where women routinely take the piss and expect guys to pay for everything. Like if in 3 dates in and she still expects me to pay for everything without lifting a finger, then thats an instant red flag as I don't want someone w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:47 AM
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if you're short you're screwed, but most men are just overweight and don't take care of their skin or dress properly
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 05:46 AM
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how so?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 04:56 AM
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I wouldn't say you touched a hurt place, online ppl can be more abrupt, including myself so i guess my responses came off as unempathetic, but I genuinely wouldn't want to cause trauma to anyone unnecessarily. If I can avoid it I will, but I won't stop approaching ppl just in case they will get trauma, I'll just try my best to not do so if I sense they aren't comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 04:50 AM
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Not so obvious if it is completely wrong is it though? i literally told you my stance in the previous post so you can either read that and learn what I actually meant, or ignore it and continue to play dollarstore sherlock.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 04:22 AM
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Makes sense. I shit you not one guy, who I presume has to be american dude, literally said it was a privilege to pay for everything for a woman. I wish he was joking... he wasn't. With simps like that I can't say I blame women for exploiting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 03:20 AM
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Nothing is "implicit" about my solution. Also I ain't reading the rest of that shit about me you no doubt just made up in your head. You can just go look at my post history, at no point do I advocate men be assholes. Being an asshole isn't why Chad gets picked. He gets picked despite being an asshole because he's Chad. Women think they can fix the asshole aspect of Chad, but spoiler alert, they can't. The goal isn't to be come an asshole chad, it's just to stay who you are as person personality …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 03:18 AM
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I don't interrupt ppl while they are reading a book or looking at their phone, but if they stop for a while then, during that period it is fine. Also everyone looks at their phone occasionally, if I avoided having a conversation with every person who looks at their phone when they were in public then I'd never speak to anyone. It's not as if I just walk up to them and ask them for their number or to go out on a date. I just start a convo, if they seem distant or uncomfortable, I just find a way …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 03:10 AM
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...and then what? Become assholes? Wait, where exactly did I say do this? The solution is just stop wasting time on shit like "personality" etc and focus on looks and physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 02:54 AM
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​ You need to have a stronger argument than u/Lina-Inverse said so if you're going to say the bulk of 50% of the population are liars. Humans are social creatures and enjoy social interactions. The fact that I pretty much never have a negative interaction when i do it is all I care about. That said I automatically screen out anti-social looking women as I prefer to date women who are fun to be around. So I'm sure the average woman on reddit has nothing to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 02:52 AM
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Well I'm from the UK and I can tell you women in the UK would not have the audacity to ask for an uber to bring them to a first date. That's unheard of here, I've never ever heard of a woman demanding that... but UK tends to copy all the shit US does so if the women here get wind of that shit happening over in the US, they'll try their luck on some of the simps here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 02:34 AM
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What risk? There is no risk to me. Also there is no risk to the 99.99999% of ppl who don't experience mental trauma when they get asked out on a date so I'm not going to change my entire dating life because like 10 ppl in the entire world experience trauma from it. What are the chances i run into those 10 ppl out of billions of people? Literally zero. If she doesn't want to be asked out she can just avoid talking to men when they approach her and thus avoid being in a situation where she can be …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 02:26 AM
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Last few days have made me realise all the talk about "western woman" be entitled seems to just be mostly be bout American women. American women seem to have outrageous levels of entitlement including thinking a guy should not only pay for a dinner date on the first date but also pay for an uber to bring them to the bloody date! Then they act like that's normal! That literally blew my mind as women in western europe are NOWHERE NEAR this level of entitlement. I asked my partner if they thought a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 02:20 AM
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Ofc there are creepy men, and ofc a woman can genuinely dislike being cold approached but those women are rare. My response was simply explaining why the person you were responding to, wrote what he did, because most men are quite literally unaware of those two rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:40 AM
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it was a mistake yeah i mean to say To be more accurate "being nice" is an optional preference and is only relevant if you aren't good looking enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:22 AM
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To be more accurate "being nice" is an optional preference and is only relevant if you aren't good looking enough. If you're good looking enough the woman will overlook it and think they can fix him... until she realises she can't then it's onto the next Chad to try and fix him. A woman can maybe fix a Chad's personality with her charms, but she can't fix an ugly guy's looks unless she's a plastic surgeon.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:13 AM
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The information is out there. No one can know everything, sometimes you make mistakes, sometimes the information you were given is false. Most people fall for "Just world fallacy" as parents raise kids to believe it. If they told children the truth that, being a good person doesn't mean you get rewarded, kids would just probably act like assholes. So men grow up thinking they deserve a relationship because they are a good person or have a good personality and then get confused and understandably…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:08 AM
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It's because so many women on here love to claim women don't like to be approached full stop. Or guys shouldn't cold approach women in <insert every location known to mankind> And talk about nonsense about why approaching in a certain way or place is bad. Then unaware men will hyper analyse what they did wrong and how they can be more considerate about the woman's feelings, work on their personality etc, when the reality is women don't like to be approached by uggos and the solution for men is d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 11:47 PM
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Not unreasonable, just women will lie an say that they hate being cold approached or complain about something being creepy when the real issue is the guy was ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 11:43 PM
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Haha sure. Keep pretending that if a man says he won't date single mothers or women over 30 that women don't get the pitchforks out. You realise everyone knows this is true, including yourself right.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 11:30 PM
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yeah but your question implies the woman has had sex at least once so they had to desire it at least once.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 10:06 PM
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You might be a beta mark, but I sure as hell ain't. Why the hell would anyone go full beta provider mode for some woman they barely know on the first date who has literally reciprocated nothing for you. Are you insane?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:59 PM
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I don't disagree, most men just complain women's standards are too high which even though I firmly believe is true, if they actually paid attention, they'd realise it still isn't that hard to meet them if they put the effort in, given the average guy puts in little to no effort at all. I've seen it with my own eyes. But hey ho, complaining on internet is easier I guess. Either way that's a minority of men. If a guy complains that he won't date fat women, or single mothers, or women over 30. Almo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:35 PM
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If by "believe in" you mean if I things should return to where that was exclusively the dynamic, then no not at all. I have no really issue with women who choose traditional dating dynamics or modern dating dynamics. What I do have an issue with is modern women who abhor traditionalism but then still want men to behave traditionally in terms of doing and paying for everything. Thankfully that dynamic doesn't exist in western europe, but seems it exists in america (and apparently eastern europe) …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:28 PM
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That's only the men who get conned into thinking the standards that matter are "good personality" and virtues and other such nonsense. Then they work on those things (or more commonly don't put any effort at all and just rage at women who choose Chads who meet none of those standards) or rage when they get no results because they just found out the hard way what "just world fallacy" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:15 PM
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Again women rate 85% of men below average so that tracks. That said if I had to round to the nearest whole number it would round down to a 5, so I guess we don't really disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 08:44 PM
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If all his other features are average and one is above average then by definition that is above average over all. It doesn't mean significantly above average just that he is objectively more attractive than the average guy (which says more about how low the bar is) I get that when women talk about above average looks they are talking about Chad. But we are talking realistically here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 08:40 PM
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Average guy in america is quite literally borderline obese, like 50lbs overweight. So by virtue of him not being obese and being average in all other areas, he is above average overall. Now if you mean in terms of what women find attractive then sure. Women rate 85% of men as below average looks (which is impossible) but from that point of view then sure, he isn't in the top 15% of men in terms of physical appearance, so then he'd be "below average" from a woman's point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 08:34 PM
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Where did I say I cannot empathise? If I knew a person's day would get ruined by me hitting on them I wouldn't do it, but there is no way to know this in advance. If a woman signals she's not interested, I bid them good day and leave them alone. So I'm not sure what more you expect than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 08:31 PM
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Sure but when I say above average i'm talking 5.5. Not saying the guy is a looker by any stretch of the imagination. And the only reason he is "above average" is because the average person is borderline obese, so anyone who is simply not obese with even a basic face and basic ability to dress and groom themselves is by definition above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 08:01 PM
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Well such is life. Just say you aren't interested and move on. Can't expect the entire world to stop because your day gets ruined when a guy hits on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 07:31 PM
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I know, that's my point, he's average in looks but he's not an average man and certainly not average from the perspective of dating. So the initial point that "an average-looking successful female youtuber would get criticised for having high standards" makes no sense because the high standard men that female youtuber would want, don't care about her money or youtube career, so to them she wouldn't be above average at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 07:29 PM
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Sure, it makes complete sense that not every woman wants to date even an interaction goes well and even if they are single. Also it is sometimes easy to tell the socially awkward people who would probably respond negatively and just avoid approaching them. Also women who dress extremely well (and by that I mean they clearly wear very well made fashionable clothes) often don't mind being approached because people who wear designer outfits want to stand out and be noticed. Those are the women I te…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 07:25 PM
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Wow really? you mean if you compared the average looking man to hollywood actors they wouldn't be special? I'm shocked that the average man isn't comparable in looks to hollywood actors! What sort of a dumb comparison is that. I simply said overall he is obviously going to be above average in physical appearance. If you're talking about just his face then sure that's average, but in all other areas his physical appearance is above average. (not much above average btw, he's like a 5.5)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 07:17 PM
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I'm talking about overall, not just his face. If you are referring to just his face then sure his face is average. Again to be clear i'm not saying this guy is like a 6 or 7. He's like a 5.5. If he lost weight and lowered his body fat significantly he'd probably be a 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 07:14 PM
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Nope, had perfectly good interactions with strangers, men and women, no difference. IRL most people are not as anti-social as the average reddit user.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 07:13 PM
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Most people don't mind being approached by strangers for a conversation, I used to be pretty shy as a teen and in my early 20s, but even I never minded being approached by strangers. Cold approaches fail the majority of the time not because most people don't enjoy being approached (not everyone is a anti-social and awkward like women here would like you to believe) but because most people are already in a relationship or not seeking one, and the very nature of a cold approach means you can't kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 07:10 PM
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They just don't want to be approached by unattractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 07:05 PM
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Sure but you pass the minimum looks threshold for a woman in her 20s which means you are definitely decently average in looks for a guy of your age. I don't doubt your personality played a role but it's primarily gonna be your looks and the fact the you probably have your shit together as a person more than men in their 20s which is why she chose you over them. I didn't have my shit together at all in my 20s and in fact one of my exs dumped me for a guy in his 30s for almost that very reason! It…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 07:02 PM
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Yes I'm sure average men are out there angry that an attractive and highly successful billionaire won't date them. 🤡 If men even hint about not wanting to date fat women or older women, there is huge uproar by the fatties and old women and also younger women insecure about aging.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 06:50 PM

It's always that, the moment men have preferences it becomes a problem. was reading a thread on WomenOver30 about what their 'icks' are and the standards for men were hilarious with women saying they won't date men who: ​ 'Reverse into parking spaces' 'Say they think logically' 'use abbreviations while texting' 'Use an 🙈 emoji' ​ These "standards" are all perfectly fine though!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 04:01 PM
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1/ he definitely is above average in looks, just by virtue of not being overweight alone makes him above average, and he has a decent face and by virtue of his wealth he probably presents himself very well. His looks are easily passable for most women. The comparison to an average-looking female YouTuber is stupid because he's literally the most famous youtuber and it is his money and status that are primarily going to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 03:57 PM
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How is the answer to this anything other than zero. Surely the overwhelming majority of people have sex before they started working? Especially for women, where it requires zero effort to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 02:40 PM
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"Personality game" lol 😂 I assume you must at least be good looking or have your life shit together, no woman is dating older men (or any man to be frank) primarily for their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 02:33 PM
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Yesss I'm from the UK too and this thread is crazy to me, it would not ever have occurred to me to expect a guy to send a bloody taxi to pick me up 😅 ngl, I suddenly have a increased appreciation for women in the UK after reading some of those threads. Some absolutely shocking stuff was just treated as normal and left me wondering if I've been living in a bubble or just luckily avoided women like that my whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 01:36 PM
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However. If someone isn't willing to pay for you as a girl, move on. Where on earth in europe are you from. I've been to places like Sweden, Norway, Germany etc and I've never come across women who expect guys to literally just pay everything to date them and get nothing in return. I guess I should be thankful UK women aren't this entitled to leech of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 01:31 PM
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^ this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 01:13 PM
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It's definitely true that on average women prefer older men than younger men that's kinda literally objectively true. As women get older the age gap of the men they pair with increases quite significantly. That said, the men who think that teenagers and university students want to date the average guy in their 30s are beyond delusional and need to go talk to a relative who is in that age range and will tell them the truth instead of getting cognitive bias from the rare barely out of their teens …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 12:13 PM
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Yes some men will always use simps, doesn't mean you have to be one, have some backbone. Chad sure as hell ain't paying women to keep him company. I'm from the UK, i've never in my entire life heard of women expecting shit like that. Also first two dates should always be coffee/brunch, so no need to split that it's like 5 bucks. She can get the bill on the second coffee date. If things go well and she at least reciprocates and contributes. Then take her to dinner on a 3rd date and pay for that. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 10:26 AM
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Then she can stay her ass at home. Sounds like these women think hollywood romcoms are real life I wonder what american women who emigrate to europe do? Because I can't imagine they try bring that shitty attitude with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:58 AM
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Exactly! I live in the UK, and never in my life have I ever heard of a woman requesting that, they'd be too embarrassed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:49 AM
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If it’s an American thing it may be because we can’t walk/take the train everywhere. so how do you go anywhere then you just sit at home waiting for dates to get you ubers everywhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 02:40 AM
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If I asked a woman out and she wanted me to send a car to pick her up, I'd think she was out of her god damn fucking mind lol. You can't even bring your own ass to a location? Never in my life have I heard of such shit, I bet this must be an american thing because I don't think there is another country on earth where that shit would fly. I used wonder why passport bros are mainly an american thing but if sort of shit is standard then no wonder. Not sure why they go to random countries like vietn…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 02:29 AM
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If you want to lose weight you're gonna have to eat less food. How much skill do you need to cook chicken like seriously wtf. Chicken thigh fillets open pack, dip in marinate sauce or just season with salt and pepper. put in the oven Buy pre packed vegetables you can steam in the microwave. 5 mins in the microwave. Done A healthy meal you literally spent zero time preparing it, you just open shit and put it in an oven and wait like 20 mins. How is this time consuming or expensive? What fast food…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 02:14 AM
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Haha some of those are crazy. "He must send a car" Bruh are you shitting me, these women are so lazy and cheap they can't even pay to take their own ass to a location, fucking hell, who is dating these weirdos. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 01:30 AM
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Then the person needs to change their environment and schedule then. I don't understand this mindset at all. Eat less food. Do a few hours a week of sport. Anyone can do this. You literally just eat less food!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 01:27 AM
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Don't sweat it, it's never too late. As you said you got a good job, that's one huge plus. Do it for yourself and don't get distracted by a relationship. It will come at the end so much more easily. I was so tempted to jump the gun even when I was very close to where I wanted to be. I had lost 45lb of the 60lbs i wanted to lose and was just 15 lbs away but I stuck to my guns and waited until i hit my goal then took the money I had set a side for clothes and bought some amazing outfits from some …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 01:22 AM
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I have a medical condition that caused me to gain weight. I still lost it by putting in the time and effort, it wasn't even much effort, I just stopped eating trash food, cooked healthy meals and played sports twice a week. lost 60lbs of fat and gained 20lbs of muscle. ​ No "luck" or "opportunity" just not being lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 11:44 PM
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This isn't even controversial, the only people who think being a good person matters are those who still are trapped in just world fallacy and are probably still young.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 11:22 PM
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Doing nothing is literally 100% failure rate. so if it helps the 10% non-lazy ppl then thats a plus. Majority of ppl fail to lose weight and not be obese. Doesn't mean dieting is useless. For the people who aren't lazy it works just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 11:19 PM
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What RP program are you talking about. You need a program to follow red pill advice? Why can't you just follow the advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 11:16 PM
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I put in a concerted effort to lose weight last year, managed to lose 35 pounds, and was confident enough to give dating apps a try. I know it's obviously too late but dear lord that is legitimately one of the worst things you could have possible done. Those apps are designed to get lonely men to part with their money and you're just inviting mental health issues onto yourself. They are designed to lower your self esteem until you cave and pay money. Never use a product that is designed to destr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 11:14 PM
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well if they didn't lift then they aren't following the program so I'd have to look at the people who actually did lift and see what their results were.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:49 PM
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The ideal circumstances of "not being lazy"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:44 PM
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wait what, how is getting in shape and being fit and having building a good career "not impressvie" lol maybe there is some truth to why women think 85% of men are below average in looks cuz seems lots of men just are happy being mediocre.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:43 PM
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100% this. It makes such a ridiculous difference i regret not just focussing entirely on looks sooner. Just went absolutely all in getting in shape, playing sports, proper skin care, designer clothes the whole shebang. ​ Night and day difference in how ppl treat you, especially women, also I just feel far more confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:36 PM
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Just put 6ft no woman can tell the difference. Also if you wear shoes you're pretty much 6ft.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:35 PM
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Incorrect, that's why the whole passport bros is a thing it is an attempt to find these quality women outside of the west. Also pretty much every red pill guys suggests most men get off dating apps and approach women in person, as there is nothing of any value to be found on dating apps. Not sure what you mean by you wish TRP would recognise this. I recognise it just fine and so do many others.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:34 PM
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Sound like you've been binge watching black pill stuff there buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:31 PM
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then why dishonestly only quote part of it then. I have no issue with a man crying or a man being emotional. But crying in front of others is of no benefit to a man. It has literally nothing to do with insecurities, it is solely to do with protecting yourself and not putting yourself at risk for no reason. I'm fine with displaying sad emotions to a partner. But men don't have the luxury like babies or women to just cry in front of others for attention. It is literally the opposite of controlling…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 02:36 PM
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You can convey you are sad without crying. I can tell if someone needs comforting without them having to cry. Not sure why you think the only two options when a man is sad is to immediately cry in front of everyone or be an emotionless robot. You realise there are other options between those ridiculous extremes right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 02:03 PM
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Not sure what the sarcasm is for. 🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 11:27 AM
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what's the point of crying in front of her trying reading the whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 11:09 AM
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You can do this without doing it front of someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 11:08 AM
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You think if you were seriously dating a guy who was a millionaire and he wanted to go abroad with you for a nice holiday maybe even fly first class that costs $1000s he'd make you pay half even though you make like 5% of what he makes? Even I would pay for most of it and I advocate men never pay for all the first few dates. If i earned much more than my partner and we were in an exclusive relationship, i'd absolutely pay for most stuff, but for the first few dates absolutely not. I'd want her t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 11:03 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:37 AM
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Yeah i'm sure you're turning down dates with a rich swedish chads who simply want to split the first date due to their culture, but who will be perfectly happy with paying for most things later on for you as they know they are better of financially, and instead your are going out with a poorer eastern european Ivan who is happy to spend all his disposable income on dates with you while he eats ramen the rest of the week. ​ This definitely happens. 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:35 AM
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Exactly. Also and the thing men forget is that, crying in front of her wil be accepted when the relationship is going well. When the relationship starts going south, or problems arise it won't. Also even worse is, she'll look back at that and likely view the times you cried negatively. Then if you start crying as normal, you'll be out of crying quota and into "pansy mode" ​ I keep telling guys don't take dating advise from women online, it will never end well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:29 AM
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Yes there is and that difference between a weeping child and a man in control and how the woman perceives that depends on the woman, it depends on her mood, it depends on the state of the relationship, who knows what the line is between weeping child and stoic alpha male robot. It is also possible that she views it as positive at the time but in the future after you have other problems or the relationship starts going south, she looks back at it negatively. This is actually by far the most commo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:24 AM
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Yup so swedish Chad doesn't have to pay for your company but, Eastern european Ivan gets the privilege of paying. Love it 🥳
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:14 AM

You are probably good at gauging if women are interested in you, which is actually easy with tine. I've had many women approach me. My first 3 relationships I was the one who was asked out as I was to shy to ask girls out when I was younger. I get tons of indicators of interest but thats because I invested a lot of effort into being fit and dressing well. I never leave the house without being dressed well and looking tidy. I'm defintely above average in looks 7 on a good day or in good photos. 6…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 09:02 AM
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Just so any guy is unaware of what is being said here: Chad gets to split the bill and not pay for the privilege of her company, but average Joe must pay for her company As i said once you are physically attractive enough as a guy, all the other prerequisites women have become optional. Instead of wasting money paying for dates from "traditional" 🙄 women like this go spend money on yourself so you are fashionably dressed and groomed, get you teeth done, go to a dermatologist make sure your acne …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:53 AM
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I suspect it is a US thing. In the UK it's never been a problem for me either, most women don't have this in built expectation for a man to pay for everything like in the US I really hope that shitty mentality is never imported here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:41 AM
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I feel that it's a privilege to pay for the whole thing. ​ Women these days have their own jobs and can pay their way, so if they let me pay then I feel honored ​ I've read some wild shit in my time but this is definitely up there. Findom vibes are strong in this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:39 AM
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It has nothing to do with "not being able to handle one bill" or can't afford it. What on earth!? I take women on two short coffee dates then the 3rd is a dinner date. I'll pay the first coffee date, and if she asks to split i'll still pay and let her get the next one. If she pays for at least one of the first small dates then I'll pay for dinner on the 3rd date, otherwise I'll split the bill on the 3rd date and don't give a single fk if this bothers her. If she starts to get flaky after that ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:32 AM
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pro tip is don't date just one person at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:21 AM
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I dunno what people in the US are smoking when they talk about man paying for every date. Also taking women to dinner on a first date. Absolute insanity. Most I ever do for a first date is a coffee and a sandwich, during an afternoon out. I want to get to know someone before I invest time and effort into them. I value women's company but not so much to have to pay for it. If you pay for everything, you're literally paying women to go out on dates with you! wtf is wrong with you!? I start relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:19 AM
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Controlling your emotions isn't being a robot, what the hell. I can't believe grown men out here just crying as soon as they feel like it, Are you kidding me? How old are you? Compose yourself and go some where private ASAP if you must. You don't "plan out" your cries. You plan the time and place where you intend to focus and dwell on negative emotions and let those emotions come out in whatever way they manifest. What is important is you do it in a safe place so they don't overwhelm you later o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:03 AM
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The point is there is no upside, just downside. What did crying in front of them achieve, that couldn't be achieved by simply not crying in front of them.. It's like a game where you roll a dice and if you roll a 1 you lose but if you roll 2,3,4,5 or 6 you get nothing. What exactly is the point of rolling the dice getting a 5 and saying "see, it's all fine!"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 01:44 AM
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feel you guys just say "biology" for anything you've convinced yourself of as sort of shield. Unless you can prove there is an undisputed gene in the body that automatically repulses women from male emotion? Hmm... I wonder if there is any evidence women are repusked by men cry. Lets keep reading shall we... Don't be a weepy little pansy 🙃.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 01:37 AM
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Nothing wrong with holding each other. I'm just saying what's the point of crying in front of her, I'm yet to hear any upside to it, surely she doesn't have to see you literally crying to know when you need comfort. I just don't see the value in doing something that has zero upside and pure downsides. But hey if it works for you that's good i guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 01:09 AM
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Pretty sure she'd have held you if you didn't cry. No upside for a man crying in front of people, only downsides.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 12:57 AM
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you do you boo.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 12:51 AM
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I'd like to think that my partner would know to comfort me if my friend died without me having to literally cry in front of her for her to realise it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 12:50 AM
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No one said turn it off or bury it. You can control which emotions you show others, and there is an appropriate time and place to display various types of emotions. Some are fine to show others in front of others or your partner, some are not. it's not about acting tough, it is simply about protecting one's weaknesses. If you got to cry as a man, the appropriate place is not in front of other people. People will rush to help crying women and children, that's why they do it. Men do not have that …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 12:48 AM
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Not sure how this is anything new, if you're Chad all other the other prerequisites women have for men become optional and they will rationalise away most of the negatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 12:42 AM
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Nothing, what's silly is doing it front of other people. What benefit exactly does it serve?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 12:40 AM
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Nothing says being a man like crying in front of your GF.🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 12:35 AM
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You can be emotional to a certain extent that's fine, as long as you are fully in control of the emotions you show. But for gods sake leave the crying in front of other people to women and children. People will come to the aid of women and children crying. No one is coming to help you as a man if you cry. If you have to cry do it alone or see a therapist. It's not really a brutal reality in the slightest. It seems so at first when you first realise it, but it is one of the best things about bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 12:33 AM
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If they acted they way they do online in IRL they would be social rejects so I presume they don't act that deranged in real life. If that's the case it further reinforces my point why men should never get dating advice from women online.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 10:48 PM
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almost 85% of guys are below average to women, so when you are talking about the attractiveness of the "average guy" you actually are referring to the top 15-20% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 10:42 PM

Sure lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 10:16 PM

And the guy who only wants sex can just go see an escort if experience is what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 09:07 PM
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I don't disagree at all. Professional pics for men are mandatory. Most men will stupidly pay for premium subscriptions when their money is best spent on some designer clothes and a professional photoshoot. If a guy isn't willing to put the effort in to be 12-15% body fat, impeccably dressed and don't have professional pictures taken then they shouldn't ever download a dating app. Not doing this is like going into a free for all gunfight and being armed with a roll of toilet paper. Just that IRL …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 09:05 PM

Men shame fat women all the time. Is it morally wrong, I dunno maybe. I don't really think it is. It is much easier for a guy to get sex than it is for a fat woman to get slim. Also men don't have to advertise they are inexperienced, why would you even tell a woman that unless you're like a teenager
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:57 PM
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Basically a term used when Chad won't be a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:52 PM
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For you, perhaps. Other people who are equally adamant they're red pill probably don't agree. Not had a single red pill man ever say I'm not red pill because i don't think men have it worse than women. Where are these men saying you cant be red pill unless you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:48 PM

Posts like this make me realise femcels are just a creepy as incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:45 PM
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Dunno about responsible if you mean responsible as in cause then that's impossible to really know. But if you mean initiate then sure it's a fact women will bail quicker than men. Because marriage is much more of sunk cost for a man, they are more likely to exhibit sunk cost fallacy and stick around, whereas women are more likely to just bail when the shit hits the fan, get half his stuff and find another person to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:22 PM
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It's because men have a sunk cost fallacy in marriage and are more likely to stick around. (which is why men should not be getting married)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:19 PM
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Less, simply by virtue that more women are in the workforce and in positions of power in society means the gap between men and women has decreased. Has nothing to do with men being lazier or putting in less effort. But many women will interpret it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:17 PM
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w/e that not what was asked by the OP. They simply asked what was the thesis of the redpill. Believing men have things worse than women is not a core belief. I mean as far as i'm concerned it literally isn't true, so i couldn't believe it if i wanted to. That doesn't mean i'm not red pill. I can't control what others do and think, only what I do. Those men will exist regardless under some other tag. Manosphere, conservative, traditionalists. They will always exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:15 PM
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Only doomed if you're chasing high maintenance women and instagram models. The option is also there just to move away from areas where you are below average income, and move to areas where you are above average income
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:07 PM
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Open the reddit, first thing I see is a topic titled Reminder to not have sex with conservative men. ​ Yup definitely a stable bunch that lot. 😂 I consider them social rejects because their world views are definitely in the minority. I suspect a lot of them would have to act normal IRL because if they didn't they almost certainly would be social rejects. Either way no men should be getting advice online from women who act like social rejects online. (or any women online for that matter) They sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:06 PM
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Literally false, online dating is HEAVILY skewed towards looks so much it is ridiculous. The ratio of men to women is huge and most women are getting likes from literal Chads. So the level of attractiveness required to be successful on dating apps is MUCH higher. I would not even waste time on a dating app if you aren't at least an 8 in looks. Also unless a man is willing to have semi-professional photos taken, there is no way he possesses pictures that show off his physical features as well as …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 07:39 PM
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Posted something similar before. It's not hard. ​ Learn how to approach and talk to strangers. If you are uncomfortable talking to strangers, practise talking to men, or elderly ladies first. Most younger women are not forgiving of guys who are awkward and any awkwardness will be labelled "creepy" and "ick". Men and elderly women generally are far more friendly and accepting of awkwardness, so use that as a warm up or to develop the skills. Once you're in a conversation, learn to read body langu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 07:33 PM
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Question asked what is the thesis of it, ie what is the fundamental part of and it is The core of what it means to be red pill are the attributes without which you can't really be considered red pill and the only part of the op that applies to is the dating section. You really can't be red pill if you don't believe that. RP originated entirely out of that and regardless of what spin offs were created, manosphere etc, the dating section is the core of TRP. It's not no true scotsman because I'm no…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 07:20 PM
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Also i disagree with the section saying " Women are primarily looking for physical appearance, financial success, and social status" Firstly social status for the most part is basically just a by product of appearance and/or financial success so it is kinda redundant. But more importantly I think the point is that almost all men are better off focussing on physical appearance and financial success only, and not wasting time with "virtues" and "personality". Because women have non negotiable thre…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 07:06 PM
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​ Women are primarily looking for physical appearance, financial success, and social status. While they also value kindness, support, and trustworthiness, these do not make them want a relationship with the person. The only part of the dating section i would disagree with is where it says women are primarily looking for those features. I think a lot are for sure. People like your self and your friends definitely would be exceptions, but it's not that rare. But the main issue is that there is alw…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:58 PM
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Then don't live around racists?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:39 PM
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Yes. Especially if in their regular day to day activities they do not show that vulnerability at all. Then that's actually extremely attractive. If they constantly do it 24/7 at home, at work, around friends around family, then that's just gonna be constantly draining to be around and it's not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:38 PM
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This is why you never ever go on a dinner date for the first date. First 2 dates are very short cheap dates, coffee/brunch, light lunch for the second. 30mins to an hour in length the most. I do 2 short light dates because I want to pay for the first and see if she offers to pay for the either one. If she offers to pay for neither, but wants a 3rd date, then at the end of that date I'll insist we split the billl and watch her reaction carefully. If she seems perturbed or angry then that's usuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:32 PM
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How do you know any of that counts as being "hit on" by women? Are you a mind reader?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 10:20 AM

Well I don't think men's sexuality is nasty and I've never heard any men say this so I'm simply asking where they get it from. If they are gonna assert something that from my perspective is completely false, I'm gonna ask where they get their info from. Unless you expect me to just blindly go along with everything asserted even when I have no experience of it being true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 10:18 AM

This literally makes zero sense what are you even talking about. Men think men's sexuality is nasty Where do you ppl even get this stuff from.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 09:53 AM

Where is the data showing men hate sex workers? I wouldn't date a sex worker, but why would I hate them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 09:43 AM

Ignore that person she just gaslights routinely, asserting things that are so obviously untrue it makes you wonder if there is some sort of mental issue going on upstairs. It makes no sense for a woman to try gaslight redpill men since by definition red pill men are men who've already learnt not to be gaslighted by the women who try to be bullshiters, but still she tries probably still some dumb blue pill men who'd believe her, but I find it hard to believe blue pill men would believe her since …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 09:42 AM
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Plenty of stuff in the blue pill reddit that boil down to "men bad". The only part that is a fundamental thesis to red pill is the On Dating section. You literally can't be red pill and not adhere to that as if you are redpilled that is so obviously an undeniable truth, you can ignore it as it is so obvious. The rest are necessary to be redpill. I don't care for any of the things listed as red pill in other sections. That is just associating the political stances or opinions of individuals who a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:58 AM
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Reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:42 AM
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outcast? wtf Are you branded with some mark that make ppl avoid you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:03 AM
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Learn to do it while sober, doing it while drunk around other drunk people is pointless as anyone can do that and it really doesn't lead to meaningful connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:01 AM

Reads like a man wrote this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 01:35 AM
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As long as you aren't a piece of shit person ppl will cooperate and be friends with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 01:31 AM
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No. If you don't have a social circle you have no business looking to get into a relationship imo. You can build a social circle but it takes time and effort like anything else. Play a sport, join a club related to that sport, meet new people through that. Make an effort to talk to people whenever you get the chance. Learn to talk to complete strangers, strike up convos you never know where things could lead and it is just a great skill to have. Every time I go out even now, I still make the eff…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 01:27 AM
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I agree that if someone has no social life at all then cold approaching women for dates is beyond stupid, this person shouldn't even be seeking a relationship to begin with. But what exactly is your point? I stated a true thing, you, stated a true thing. I'd presume you wouldn't get dating advice from the people you describe, aka moronic socially stunted Andrew Tate fans so why on earth would men want to get advice from social rejects on XX?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 01:21 AM
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slightly left of centre. Would never vote conservative even if you paid me. My political views are completely separate from my 'pilled' views. When it comes to dating specifically Red pill is just very obviously viewpoint based in reality and it is irrelevant to me whether most red pillers are conservative or not. What's right is right as far as I'm concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 11:39 PM
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I think the only one that is universally red pill is the On Dating section. That's mostly what I associate with red pill and I agree with literally 100% of everything written in the red pill that section. Mostly because it's just demonstrably true. The On Society section has nothing to do with red pill those are just political opinions that get associated with red pill because men who are red pill are generally more to the political right. I don't think men have it harder in society than women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 11:32 PM
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The entire point is to get to know them better. You can't get to know someone better if you don't talk to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 05:55 PM
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100% this. no idea why men waste time listening to these nutbags. In the real world unless a person as maladjusted social skills or some kinda of mental trauma, they do not view brief conversations with strangers as harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 05:53 PM
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A subreddit that is basically a gathering of socially maladjusted women is a statistically insignificant portion of the population and their views are basically abnormal, so you can safely go through life ignoring them and their opinions which is what all men should be doing. You won't be meeting these ppl in the real world, they are too busy on reddit being angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 05:51 PM
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only if you're ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 05:34 PM
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Everyone has red flags, no one is perfect. What's more important are those red flags incompatible with you and most importantly if the other person is willing to work on themselves to rectify those red flags for the sake of the relationship. The "choose better men" generally comes up when women repeatedly complain that all men are cheating assholes who just use women for sex and you look at their dating history and it is basically Chad #1 to Chad #20. Most women I'd presume don't have this probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 05:29 PM
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If by commit you mean committed relationship, then the answer is because you want that commitment reciprocated. If by commit you mean marriage then no, there is no benefit to men to get married, almost pure downside, no upside.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 05:22 PM
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So do ppl in the UK, I literally didn't now it had people who don't have passports... how bizarre, they just literally never go abroad? wtaf. lol That said not all passport bros are American so the idea that passport bros don't have passports is kinda silly, when people from pretty much every other western country has passports.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:51 PM
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That might explain a lot of the" cold approach is creepy" nonsense I see. TBH most of the arguments here I just ppl making incorrect assumptions and running with those assumptions and refusing to back down from them. That said I've seen some men also think cold approach is only when you go up to women and immediately ask them out, so it's not entirely women's fault for thinking that's all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:48 PM
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The whole point is for it to seem natural. The difference in how I approach a woman I potentially want to date and a woman/guy who i don't want to date is pretty much identical. Sure the girl might suspect she is being hit on, but I always do it from a angle of just general friendliness and if I feel like the interaction is going well I take it from there. Ultimately I'm trying to find out a bit about the person and let them know a bit about me. The "cold" approach is mainly just the fact that y…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 01:04 PM
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Red flags happen more than people thing. People can be tone deaf ​ The mere fact that someone already down voted my comment saying men shouldn't approach women at night in a parking lot kinda says it all. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 12:35 PM
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By cold approaching I mean like asking straight away for a date or a number. ​ No that's not entirely what cold approaching is. That's one way of doing it but primarily it is starting a conversation with someone you don't know and have never met, but you find them attractive and want to get to know them and want them to get to know you. Sort of like how ppl interact in online dating, but you doing it IRL instead (as online dating is a waste of time for most men) So you strike up a conversation w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 12:30 PM
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No guy should be cold approach women at night unless it's an extremely public place, eg an airport, train station, supermarket etc. Or a place where it is expected eg a bar or outside on the street but within the vicinity of lots of bars. Approaching women at night in a parking lot is beyond inconsiderate imo. Automatically a red flag if anyone is so inconsiderate to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 12:21 PM
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Tbh the only group of people where the majority think cold approaching is always creepy are women on the internet and I firmly believe men should not be wasting time with opinions and advice on dating advice from women on the internet. I get dating advice from women but only friends I've known and trust for years and usually it's the more masculine female friends as they are likely to be brutally honest and not sugar coat stuff. (or lie, which is what many ppl do online) All of those women are f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 12:09 PM
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Worst case, men meet a fattie that's literally not the worst case. wth Worst case is they get catfished, robbed, even killed, this has happened, though rare ofc. Men are victims of violence far more than women, but women on the internet seem to think bad things don't happen to men for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 08:57 AM
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No men should care as most should not go anywhere near dating apps (aka female validation simulators). Do we really need another dating app for women? All of them are already only for women. Never trust a product where the company selling it is incentivised to work against your own best interest. That's why I refuse to use online dating apps. This app however is a particularly stupid one. Why would I go through the bother of having a female friend sponsor me for an online dating app, I'd just ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 08:54 AM
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ah yes men at 40 are senior citizen but women at 40 aren't. IRL no one calls either senior citizens or cares about age differences. Only socially maladjusted women on the internet (like yourself) care and nobody should be taking their comments seriously ever. Again. this is why guys should never get dating advice from women online, or put any value in what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 07:32 AM
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Not really. Feminism has some aspects of it that are legitimately positive, it's not all negative. To equivocate feminism with trash like Tate is a bit ridiculous. If you're talking about radfems then sure you'd have a point. I don't see any benefit from people like Tate. It's 95% garbage with like 5% truth sprinkled in.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 12:36 AM
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then he is a senior citizen as far as she is concerned, Only person I've ever seen in my entire life call someone who is 40 years old a senior citizen is you. Internet isn't real life. It might be real for you but in real life people don't care about this stuff and no one thinks someone is a senior citizen at age 40. I wonder if you call women in their 30s senior citizens too? 🤔 Is Nicki Minaj a senior citizen?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 12:27 AM
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Okay found the one you were talking about and I agree no way is that person mid at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 12:02 AM
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As I said, only online will you see women claiming they are both strong and independent and also helpless little children. In the real world no one cares about what two consenting adults do. And since when are men in their 30s senior citizens. What are you 5 years old?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 11:52 PM
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lmao who doesn't have a passport wtf..
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 11:23 PM
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You know it is possible to just want to give ppl good advice and not have to be hyper competitive. There are billions of women. A few extra men becoming a passport bro isn't gonna dwindle the pool. It also works both ways if all the men leave to go to an easy environment, eventually the men left behind have it easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 11:22 PM
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Creepy if the guy is ugly. Cute if he is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 11:05 PM
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I feel for you, I personally think it's just almost a wrap basically, you'd have to get super lucky to find those rare women who will genuinely love you and stick around during hard times. Most women if they even gave an autistic guy a chance would liekly bail the moment things got difficult. I think you'd have to really focus on finding women with more traditional values maybe places like churches, religious communities. If I were autistic I'd avoid non-traditional women like the plague I can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 11:03 PM
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Men are fine, the negative stereotypes are just farts in the breeze. Stop paying attention to cat ladies and radfems rants.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 10:53 PM
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No. I'd try to get them to teach me whats so interesting about it. I've had many things I've considered boring actually be incredible when someone who is passionate about it and was good at explaining things, introduced me to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 10:51 PM
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Met online doesn't mean just dating apps though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 10:49 PM
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Lol if that's Mimi shou person you are talking about she is absolutely mid. Obviously above average, she not a 5, but she's a 6 or 7. Probably 6 as it's easy to look great in carefully curated photos and she looks like she is mid 30s. I've been in relationships with women better looking that and I'm mid as well and not even remotely close to being a millionaire chad. I'd be shocked if millionaire chads even dated her, makes zero sense at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 10:46 PM
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OP conflated meeting online, with meeting on dating apps. The stats are no where near 50% for married couples meeting on dating apps, it is closer to 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 10:39 PM
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What does that have to do with trust. Nobody is infallible. I'm not gonna blindly trust someone will be with me forever. Relationships end that's a fact. Even people who are 100% trustworthy make mistakes, not protecting against that is foolhardy. I might trust someone is a good driver, doesn't mean I won't wear a seatbelt. Trust doesn't mean be reckless and not protect yourself. Always have contingency plans. I always have a plan in place for if a relationship ends, regardless of how well it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 10:36 PM
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It puts her in a good statistical place compared to the general population, but she isn't looking at the general population for a partner. She is looking for the top 1% of men and is competing with the top 1% of women for these men and she doesn't even come anywhere remotely close to that. She might think being an influencer and being wealthy makes her the top 1% of women, but the men she is targeting could not give two shits about that, they have their own money and don't need hers and can date…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 10:28 PM
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Always having contingency plans is a sign of someone who is well prepared. Only fools put all their eggs in one basket. That doesn't mean cheat on your partner, but it sure involves having preparations and planning in place if things go wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:39 PM
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Always have contingency plans no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:37 PM
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She's not *that* good looking though. I mean I've dated women better looking than her and I'm miles away from being a millionaire chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:33 PM
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Chad is doing things most guys do, he just looks much better while doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 06:41 PM
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I can agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 06:40 PM
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Obviously not in front of your partner as that is just disrespectful but I'd go as far as to say it is mandatory for attached men to proactively approach women and flirt with them whether they are in a relationship or not, as it's a skill you always want to have and keep warm and not let go stale, Also women like to know that the man they are with is desired by other women as it makes them feel special that he chose her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 06:33 PM
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Ah yes, I'm sure she's dating Jim in middle management earning 50K a year and he cheated on her and dumped her. That's definitely what happened. Keep pretending to be ignorant about the type of men she's going after. Thankfully most ppl aren't as dim as you are pretending to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 06:24 PM
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Riding a motorcycle or any of that doesn't get women. Most women don't care if a guy has a motorcycle. Sure if you do drugs you can probably interact with some other druggy women, if that's your thing. I let myself go a bit in my late 20s, became overweight, dressed average, hair was an absolute mess was at best was a 3 in looks at best and had a motorcycle, started playing sports to lose weight, was still invisible for over a year. I'm now slim, athletic and in shape (due to playing sports and …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 02:01 PM
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Chad is not getting in to street fights, knocking up random women or joining gangs lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:52 PM
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The world where an attractive, successful, intelligent woman who is desired by at least 99% of men, is perpetually single because she keeps chasing the 1% of men least likely to be committed with her. You know, the world we live in? That is literally the topic of this thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 11:26 AM
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There are things women have easier than men, and things men have easier than women. Acknowledging the truth doesn't mean one is jealous. The whole Red Pill rage occurs when men are lied to for so long that the truth is too painful. Dating being hard for average men is what pushed me to improve myself to as far beyond average as possible. I'll never be chad, but I pushed my self as close as I can possibly get, and that has been more than good enough. Past failed relationships made me understand w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:42 AM
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The woman being discussed literally post in her instagram: Somehow every guy I’ve picked from the Big Apple turned out rotten #applepicking Do you think she is saying literally going #applepicking Stop being on purpose stupid. We're all adults here, you know what metaphors are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 08:43 AM
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Yes you can't expect a woman who keeps getting repeatedly pumped and dumped by millionaire chads for over a decade that, maybe exclusively dating millionaire chads is a bad idea. Too much to ask for some common sense here, right? Answer is ofc yes it is. She will continue to get ran thru by millionaire Chad's until she can't compete with younger women and millionaire Chad no longer pays attention to her. Then she'll either settle with an ugly looking multi-millionaire or a Chad who only earns 6 …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:02 AM
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It's like a normal relationship. You know, one where the two adults do adult things like every other relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 02:51 AM
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What two consenting adults do is there own business, except on the internet where it is everyone's business and everyone has an opinion on it and will spew garbage like power imbalance etc because grown adult women are apparently both strong and independent but also simultaneously little children. Outside of the internet nobody really cares about this stuff. Also most women don't care about your actual age, they just care about how old you look. I'm mid 30s and I have absolutely no problems dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 02:41 AM
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Because some people are naive not everyone learns how the world works at hte same time. I never really took a blue pill, I just assumed blue pill beliefs were true because that's what i grew up hearing, seeing on TV etc. I realised by lots of trial and error that it is absolute bullshit, and had to figure out what i was doing wrong, eventually i figured it out, and later learnt on the internet that all the stuff I had to figure out myself was referred to as Red pill stuff. I could have saved a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:04 AM
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If you keep picking apples from a tree and every single one of them turn out to be rotten, there soon comes a point where one does not need to be psychic to predict that the next apple you pick from that same tree is gonna be rotten too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:57 AM
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Exactly. You can literally just look at her instagram pictures and immediately know this is a millionaire chad chaser. I'd have bet my life savings on that without seeing or hearing a word come out of her mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:48 AM
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Most people really don't care about all that, especially when they are already high status, like this woman. Lmao. I'd love to see a count of how many guys believe women when they say bullshit like this. It better be zero. I don't think i've ever seen a comment from blue pill women on this subreddit that wasn't absolute ridiculous nonsense. I seriously wonder what bubble people like you live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:43 AM
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How is this a new topic this topic comes about constantly and the answer is always the same She's exclusively chasing millionaire Chads. Any guy who isn't earning close to 7 figures a year is literally invisible to her and the ones earning that much have much better options than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:37 AM
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Yes but the discussion isn't about which of those two things the woman wants. The entire thing is about which one the woman perceives is happening. This is purely subjective and differs for each woman, differs depending on what mood she is in, why she chose her particular appearance that day... and of course, how attractive the guy making the comment is.. Neither party can read minds, and no guy in their right mind should be wasting time trying to psychoanalyse some random woman to figure out if…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:32 AM
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Uh how exactly are you blue pilled then if you never bought the bullshit to begin with? How does that even make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:16 AM
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What a silly comment. Feminists fight to be a part of the workforce and the right to have high paying careers, which is perfectly fine. Then when the average male salary goes down in comparison modern day "feminists" complain about average male salary only be 45k. Like no shit sherlock, do you think the higher paying jobs women have now came from the land of magic? Obviously some men are getting replaced in those jobs so the average male salary will decrease and the average female salary will in…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 09:18 PM
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Yes but "awful experiences" is vague. Awful experience to a woman is usually, "I got tons of matches but all the guys were trash". "Or went on a bunch of dates but all the guys were trash". Awful experience for men is usually not getting a single match for months then uninstalling the app thinking they are ugly undesirable trash when actually they are average looking or even slightly good looking and thus are invisible on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:28 PM
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She'll rationalise till the cows come home that it is a difference in the man's behaviour. It has nothing to do with that. it is just down to pure wishy washy feelings which from the point of view of the man is as predictable as a coin flip. Just be good looking and stack the odds in your favour and don't hurt your head trying to understand the nonsense in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:22 PM
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This is just wishy washy verbose garbage. Entire post is just absolute nonsense of you trying to rationalise why you feel two different ways when the same thing happens. No guy should EVER be wasting time hyper-analysing their feelings and comments like a nerd to make sure they don't "sexualize women" but instead "conveys that you find them sexy", it's a distinction without a difference. Just don't be physically unattractive and your compliments and admiration will have a much higher probability…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:09 PM
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It probably would cause dating problems for women though, tons more men would just checkout of society all together. Eg dating apps don't function if only chads are on there. The 100s of average men paying for premium features and spamming matches with women are crucial to give women validation daily, average women would get 0 matches just like average men do if it was only Chad on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:52 PM
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Yeah but that's because you are comparing your experience with other women where if they are in their 20-30s dating it is basically such extremely easy mode. Huge issues for a woman dating is only getting 50 matches a day on dating apps instead of 300. I'm not neurodivergent but JFC that's one near impossible hill to climb for a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:45 PM
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ngl if that was the exact response that sounds a bit try hard and weird and a bit of a red flag. For something like a lunch date if a woman offered I just say "it's fine, you can get the next one" A lunch date is what, on average about 10-15 bucks per person, no need for a guy to go macho mode over that. ​ For a more expensive dinner, unless I explicitly mentioned I'd pay for it before hand, I'll split it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:51 PM

Physical looks is primarily what attracts men and women and you can change those. ​ But if you genuinely just are a shy introvert and most people, man or woman don't like that then its better not to follow through. If you're shy you can fix that. If you're an introvert that has little to do with dating success. I say this as an introvert myself, One of the biggest life changes introverted people can do is simply need to reprioritise work life balance. Working long hours, especially if it is a jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:41 PM
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tbh it actually doesn't logically follow that you'd hate yourself. It is not uncommon at all for people to be fine with a feature in themselves but dislike the same feature in others especially since the main issue is being on the receiving end. eg You might like being a loud and animated person because you like to express yourself, but hate that feature in others because you hate being around other loud people because they clash with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:29 PM

That's not what the issue is. It is more men who rely on their mother excessively, whose mother controls a significant portion of the guys life. This is a red flag for two reasons 1/ because it can often mean the guy will shift that reliance onto the woman they are in a relationship with. 2/ because the mother will be very likely to interfere in the relationship. It is hard enough for two people to maintain a romantic relationship as it is. Add a 3rd person into the mix and it is a recipe for ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:19 PM
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but if they look good enough then they get female attention. ​ The original lie was "there are lots of women who would choose kissless virgin who gets no attention from women over an experienced guy who gets lots of attention" This is obviously not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:12 AM
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Sounds like a distinction without a difference, since we are talking about adults who would be presumed to have lost it, not teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:49 AM
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Mentally ill ppl who live their entire lives on social media spewing anger and hate don't have any effect on my life in the real world and never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 10:51 PM
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Dating trashy women is fine as long as you know what that comes with and don't expect anything serious. Problem is more that many guys can't tell a woman is trash until it is too late. Or get attached and then when you realise they are trash you ignore the signs or rationalise reasons that they aren't actually trash (i'm definitely guilty of that one in the past)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 05:15 PM
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Stop getting dating advice from women online and you'll avoid all of these headaches. ​ <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 04:44 PM
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There are tons of women who won't. Especially the very attractive women who want someone with looks on their own level. Close to 100% of women will skip the average type guy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 04:36 PM
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You can literally meet people anywhere, just go outside. Do social activities. Talk to people you meet while out and about. Don't waste time on online dating apps, they aren't designed for men to find dates they are designed to part men with their money, so why would you use them?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 04:34 PM
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If you must do online dating, make sure you are at least above average looking, get your self styled appropriately at the hairdressers and go do professional photoshoot with the direction to get natural looking photos preferably in a variety of locations that don't look like they are a photoshoot. Most men don't take pictures of themselves all the time like women do so it is rare for them to have decent photos of themselves so this is the easiest option.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 04:32 PM
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As long as you have basic skills are able to initiate conversations and don't do dumb shit like stalk women for 10 mins before approaching them from behind when they are busy doing something then you just need to not be ugly and it will be fine ​ Furthermore, the more times he shows interest in women who are in or near his social circle, the more likely he is to gain a bad reputation. It's not hard to maintain plausible deniability. One of the skills of flirting is maintain plausible deniability…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 04:17 PM
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There is. A push for better work life balance. Less focus on work and more focus on people and community. There is a reason why it is much easier for students at university to find relationships than after graduation. Much more free time, much bigger focus on community/friends. This disintegrates once you enter the workforce. People are too busy and tired to form bonds or even maintain existing bonds. The only option for the individual is to opt out of the culture of overwork, find a good balanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 03:54 PM
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Many people believe that as long as they are good people, they should be able to get dates. Because blue pillers and women lie and downplay the importance of looks and tell men work on personality, be a good person etc and other stuff that is meaningless in the dating market because truth hurts when you suggest women are just as shallow as men when it comes to dating However, dating like any other part of life, is not a meritocracy Imo it is the opposite. Dating is absolutely a meritocracy. I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 02:38 PM
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My partner is autistic and I had to practically beg them to take the hint and ask me out. When they did, I kissed them, and they asked if that is a yes or a no. I must say i'm confused why you didn't ask him out yourself? Like if you know they are autistic, why would you keep being subtle about things and dropping hints when you know they have a condition that literally means they aren't able to pick up on them? From my perspective it's like talking to a deaf person and expecting them to hear wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 02:15 PM
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Who are you talking to, the entire world? Why would the entire world stop doing something that doesn't affect them because neurodivergent men have a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 02:06 PM
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I can agree and disagree, I think the signs are there but ppl ignore them both men and women. Lots of people show the sunk cost fallacy. I've done it in relationships where things would have bene much better if I just paid attention to the red flags and left. I've had an ex who cheated on me with a guy who everyone (all her friends and family) warned her to stay a way from as he was a really weird controlling person and potentially had an alcohol problem. She didn't care. Even the guy's own moth…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 11:58 AM
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Because being a virgin isn't bad and doesn't make someone a loser. This is obviously true in principle, but in the real world it is not true. Women see incels as icky and losers. It would be best if everyone would stay virgin until they marry. Seriously? Someone as idealistic and removed from reality such as yourself really shouldn't be bothering to give men advice on dating. Just don't, you just come off as completely naive. Seems like you exist in some weird bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 11:39 AM
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ie men who are much less likely to be incels. Stop pretending women will choose incels over chad. Love how women in this subreddit are trying to pretend that incels are so desired lmao. no one is buying this garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 11:32 AM
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You said ​ plenty of women with no or little experience would prefer the kissless virgin, if he is a good man and compatible with her, or else neither of them. Everyone knows this is not true. didn't try to lose it just for the sake of losing it You might give that backwards rationalisation that your husband was actually volcel. Every other normal woman just saw an incel and would not choose him over Chad even if you paid them. I believe you chose an incel, but I don't believe you chose an incel…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 11:30 AM
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I presume you're joking? it is really hard to tell sometimes with some of the ridiculous responses in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 03:24 AM
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it's not much harder than that. Just be attractive and the job is done. Their standards are ridiculous but the average man is overweight, doesn't dress well, has poor skin care and is unfit. Fix those and you can be in the top 15% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 03:22 AM
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Women don't date down in terms of income not education. They associate college educated with high income/status. If you have status without education it is fine. Ask women if they will date a phd who earns a high income or a high status musician who is a millionaire but only completed high school. Education requirements will get tossed out the window immediately, since women only require it as a proxy for income.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 03:19 AM
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It is assumed Neurodivergent women have no issue dating, which is mostly true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:26 AM
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For a guy in their late 20s early 30s, earning about 50% above the average salary is not that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:23 AM
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I consider myself red pill I don't agree with a single one of those points. Most ppl don't. Especially cheating which I consider to be an absolutely abhorrent act, regardless of which gender does it. You take what you find useful from an ideology, reject what you don't. I find many aspect of red pill useful, I find some useless or morally wrong. Nothing states you have to align with every aspect of an ideology, especially the extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:19 AM
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Her story is a lie. No way did she choose an incel over Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:06 AM
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This is why I say never take dating advice from women on the internet. Too many liars and/or some of the dumbest advice/comments you will ever read Not a single woman in existence is choosing to date an incel over Chad. What an outrageous dishonest lie. FOH seriously, the audacity of these lies is getting outrageous now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:04 AM
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2 years because it was literally no effort. I just did sports 2 hours a week and eat healthy cooked meals and stopped eating takeaway as much. Nothing else. Literally anyone can do that no excuse. Also you can afford whitening braces and veneers on just a slightly above salary, I know this because I'm plan to get veneers and I have a slightly above average salary. Also you already listed "making bank" as being a criteria, you don't get to list 5 or 6 things that are all covered by a single thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 11:05 PM
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12-15% body fat ain't as easy as you think it is to get lol It's not hard at all with a proper diet and minimal exercise. I went from 30% body fat to 12% body fat in 2 years, and the only thing did was sports twice a week, decrease carbs and cooking healthy meals instead of eating take away multiple times a week. Literally something anyone can do. Whiteneing isn't hard, next you'll be saying going to the dentist is hard work. Braces, veneers isn't hard work, it's not like you're putting them on …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 08:48 PM
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It means they don't actually care about it, it is just a rationalisation they use to avoid admitting their are shallow when they dismiss someone who didn't meet their looks requirement Not wanting to date a blue collar worker isn't an education thing it is a job status thing, Guy with a degree driving a bus will still get rejected. i can agree i've seen women reject men over job type for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 08:15 PM
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Not apparent at all, sure some women care about that, most don't. If Chad doesn't have a degree the women won't care a singular fk. Almost everyone i women I asked out and dated had no idea if about my education status. I was perfectly visible the entire time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 08:06 PM
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Lol women literally have to just have a cute face and not be fat a dudes gotta have a good jaw,teeth,hair,eyes, height/weight, good visible muscle,making bank, etc there is a huge difference You don't have to be making bank,at all, a slightly above average salary is more than enough. Height is silly you literally don't have to do anything for that, just don't be short. What hard work have you put into your jaw? How is brushing your teeth hard work? What hard work have you put into your eyes? I g…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 07:58 PM
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The only difference is men need to put more effort to look good because most women don't rate men's looks fairly and think 85% of men are below average in looks. Women can just be average looking at do fine. Men have to be top 15% in looks to have things similarly easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 07:45 PM
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It's literally, be a functioning adult in society, calorie maintenance and dress and self care for both sexes. Women have an easier job of it because most men rate women's attractiveness fairly while women think 85% of men are below average in looks. But that's the only difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 07:41 PM
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Not at all. Adult education is great where I am an it changes nothing. Lots of people go thru adult education and still don't secure their dream career anyway and end up 3-4 years older than previously but now tens of thousands in debt so it's literally even worse. Problem is it is too expensive to raise children, also having a child will limit your options drastically to do anything fun with your life for well over a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 06:48 PM
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First thing it comes down to is looks, you gotta pass a certain physical looks threshold (admittedly not very high to not be seen as creepy) . That critical element is missing. The rest of your post is literally 100% perfect though for everything following that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 05:25 PM
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Plenty of women with no or little experience would prefer the kissless virgin, if he is a good man and compatible with her, or else neither of them. Bruh this is straight CAP. The fact that ppl can type this shit out, read it, then hit the post button, blows my fkn mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 05:20 PM
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An average guy with my personality and good styling could achieve most of what I have. Completely agree, but that's what you should have led with. The other stuff about education, personality, hobbies, really is irrelevant for a guy to work on unless the person is a reclusive anti-social hermit who has literally no hobbies or friends. An average guy can absolutely do what you have. As you said, weight, dress, skin care, hygiene etc is important. But where I guess we disagree is that imo there is…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 05:02 PM
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Nothing the OP can possibly do changes the fact that there are women who will go on dates with unattractive men just for food, it's literally a fact with no relation to whatever OP does.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 04:17 PM
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My lived experience tells me that women are not nearly as shallow as many of the men here claim they are And mine says they are just as shallow as I think they are. Which is that I think they are just as shallow as men are and telling men otherwise just makes them men focus on the wrong things ​ I’m introverted, socially awkward, average height and kinda cute (or so I like to think) but I don’t look like a model or anything. I haven’t really ever had trouble dating because I’m passionate about m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:50 PM
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Is that even blue pill advice? I mean blue pillers will yell at men for cold approaching women in almost any location.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:17 PM
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Nope, cuz I actually don't just make things up. I mean I could be wrong in that sense she isn't pretending to be dumb and is genuinely just clueless (which is probably more likely to be fair) Foodie Calls: Scientists Studied Women Who Go on Dates for Free Meals, and Found One Shared Personality Trait (newsweek.com)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 10:18 AM
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Let's be real we all know why #3 doesn't exist It's because the down syndrome guy didn't work on his personality and hobbies enough! Seriously though, is there really any need for a discussion on this, the answer is obvious and doesn't even need to be stated at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 10:12 AM
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My fiancé is a lot like you. Attractive face, nice smile, has creative outlets… and a very decent income, but he doesn’t give the impression that he does. And while he’s 5’5”-5’6”, he styles himself well, and managed to date and hook up successfully prior to me. So yeah there are plenty of introverted, reserved men who are successful in dating! But it still assumes you have to put in the effort to meet people, which a lot of shy people don’t do. I actually think this is extremely important and j…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 10:10 AM
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Not even remotely true at all. You are describing anti-social people. Or people who are too mentally drained from other aspects of their life to try and engage in social situations. Both of which are changeable/fixable. It is absolutely not true that introverts do not want to hang out and talk to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 09:40 AM
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I consider myself good-looking (7.5 IMO) If this is true and it almost certainly is then that obviously explains a way shy/introverted men can do well at dating. If you're good looking the rest of your personality traits are optional to women. Also most shy/introverted ppl are very interesting once you get to know them. I know as I used to be that type of person At school/university I was able to just be shy and not ask girls out as I was good looking enough that many would just obviously show i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 09:29 AM
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How are you only meeting someone one you are attracted to once every 1-2 years. Are you the male equivalent of that woman who only wants the millionaire chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 09:00 AM
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???????? what?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 08:56 AM
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They probably would but boob size is more a preference not a requirement. I don't know a single man who would hard reject a woman solely on boob size. Boob shape maybe but even then it would only be extremes like ball in a sock type boobs, which seems rare and possibly more a medical disorder, and is only visible naked. Height can be a preference at the extremes, eg women will prefer a man who is 6'4 but height is also a hard requirement for women, ie "he must me taller than me in heels" is a ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 08:51 AM
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remember you're on reddit so not every one is socially calibrated enough realise that IRL and internet isn't the same thing cuz to them internet is all of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 08:30 AM
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I love how some women pretend to be dumb in this sub, even when the answer is glaringly obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 08:25 AM
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How is a food bank better than going to a restaurant??????
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 08:24 AM
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Men don’t love women, they become deeply attached…there’s a difference That's only half true. I used the word love because i didn't want to be confusing and take the thread on a tangent with my thoughts on love but I believe ALL "love" is merely a fluffy word for attachment. Regardless the point I was making had nothing to do with the definition of love. Men can have sex easily with women they have little or no attachment to, women this is rarely the case. Which is why a relationship is never sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 08:21 AM
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God damn that sub is depressing and I thought the shit I went through was bad JFC some of the stuff in there :o Cheating is truly unforgivable imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:57 AM
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Women cheating is "worse" in only one way and it isn't so much that it is "worse".. I actually think it is better Once a woman cheats on a guy, the relationship is never ever salvageable. This is an important thing for men to know. This makes the next step very easy because it leaves you with only one viable option, the correct option. Breakup. If you forgive her she will initially be grateful, but she will not respect you, and will never love you the same way as before and will cheat again with…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:47 AM
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women will pretend this doesn't happen. Get off the dating apps, most men should be deleting those permanently. They are a waste of time but you probably know this by now i suspect
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:16 AM
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The stuff you've gone through will forever be ignored but do what you gotta do to make yourself happy. Become a passport bro. I always say men should only focus on looks and presentation since ultimately thats all that really matters. But for some people that isn't possible or viable. If I were in your position and wanted a relationship that badly I'd looking into passport bro'ing. Sure some women will accuse your of all sorts of vile things for doing that but if that's happened your whole life,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 12:11 AM
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Edit: the overwhelming response to this post is that all women are the same and have the same preferences. If you agree with this you have to accept the fact that unless you’re conventionally attractive, you’ll always struggle in the dating market. It’s time to move on and concentrate your efforts on other aspects of your life. Good luck. No they should concentrate all their efforts on looks, fashion, self care and not waste any effort elsewhere. That's the actual thing men need to do. But they …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 11:56 PM
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Yes but to be the strong quiet type you have to actually be known to be strong. That generally requires the "quiet" part of their personality to be quite deliberate. It's more of a tempered confidence. These are usually people who can easily switch between being loud and confident tone but know when not to be loud. This sort of deliberate quiet personality is VERY different from someone who is just naturally a quiet person. A naturally quiet person cannot pull off the "strong, quiet type"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 11:45 PM
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dunno why this is getting down voted. If anyone thinks they tell if someone is 5'10, 5'11 or 6ft when they are walking down the street in a various types of shoes they are lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 09:24 PM
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It's very common on dating apps, and with the popularity of online dating it's no surprise that it is a problem for men Because the men/women ratio on dating apps is so skewed and women get SO many messages, if a woman sets her filter for 6ft and over only she will still get 100s of messages. So why wouldn't she do that, she already has too many matches to filter thru so might as well just go all out set the filters up for the perfect guy and 6ft is the main cut of point. ​ The difference in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 09:21 PM
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I think it's more to do with the fact that everyones looks fade as they get old but a lot of what men find physically attractive in women tends to fade faster. This isn't a slight on women at all though. I think this is one area men just have unrealistic expectations. They (and maybe I fall into this camp too) have an unrealistic expectations of what older women should look like since if they are in their 30s and younger, they generally have only been in relationships with women their own age or…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 09:10 PM
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i know lots of them, never heard any mention this, i have heard them say they rejected guys who were shorter than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:44 PM
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Right, that’s what I’m saying, you said none of the benefits required “marriage” and I agreed, you get the same risks and benefits by doing this with or without the marriage, it’s the same thing. If you don’t buy a house together you don’t get the benefit I was talking about with that scenario - “being able to afford a house together you couldn’t alone”. Uh if I have a house and get married when i split i lose half the house. If I don't marry and split I don't lose half the house. How is this th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:41 PM
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But that is a lie that is quickly rooted out on the first date. The other potential criteria take more time/effort/energy to verify. Only if you make it outrageous. I'm almost exactly 5'10 maybe like 5'10 +1/4 . I'd put 6' on all dating apps. Zero chance any woman of average height can tell i'm actually 5'10 and not 6'. The only women who can easily tell i'm not 6' would be a woman who was at least that tall herself, which is rare and i generally avoid women taller than me cuz i just assume they…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:02 PM
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I've never in my entire life witnessed a guy reject a girl because her ass or boobs were too big or small. Never once seen this happen, not one of my guy friends have ever said this. I've heard countless girls say they would never date someone shorter than them or less than a certain height.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 05:55 PM
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lol this does not happen what the hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 05:52 PM
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Tax breaks etc are meaningless to the guy Tax breaks don't outweigh the cost of a wedding, legal fees during divorce, spousal support etc. You are just describing yet another benefit of marriage to women. ​ You’d still have to split all your shared money up, sell the home, split your household up, be heartbroken, argue or sue each other about asset division, make child custody agreements, etc. ​ You can buy a house with someone without being married, and you are still risking the same things as …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 05:48 PM
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??? That's literally a good reason though?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 11:22 AM
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Im curious as to what OP financial situation is and where he lives. Cuz your expectation as a woman lines up completely with what i observe from women where i live. Sure more money is better and women select for that but as long as it is close enough to average and enough for a regular middle class life without too much financial worries and if the guy has even a shred of ambition to improve that's generally the only financial bar necessary to clear. Sure there'll be the odd woman holding out fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 11:21 AM
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I thought maybe that belief was that women want men to want to do things for others and that they see the aquisition of and spending of money primarily as an indicator of what you have done for others and therefore money and material possessons are virtuous and poverty and a lack of ambition is unvirtuous. Is this the right idea? Why on EARTH would you think this!? Sounds like you brain has been working overtime to rationalise a lack of money in your own life. Just how bad are your finances? Bad…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 11:01 AM
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If they do all those things the woman will complain he has no money AND spends no time with her 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 10:32 AM
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Far more women date up than men dating up not even close in comparison. Most marriages are equal though. But wonen who are low socioeconomic status marry up quite easily, men who are low economic status get tossed aside unless they are good looking. Ugly low economic status men marry their hand. (which i guess is marrying down) So its just a bit of sleight of hand false equivalence to say some women marry up and some marry down. When the ratio is massively skewed to women marrying up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 10:03 AM
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None of what you mention requires marriage though 😕
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 09:54 AM
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The man is not as important. The man wants to be needed. She is so "i-n-d-e-p-e-n-d-e-n-t," but WHAT is she "independent" of? her husband, but not her (likely male) boss. Very few people are *actually* independent. Men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:59 AM
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Sperm quality dropping in mens 30s-40s is absolutely nothing compared to the decline that happens in womens fertility in their 30s. A woman getting pregnant in her 40s even poses a significant risk to her own life. No matter how much women want to try and juxtapose that men fertility also decreases, anyone with a brain knows which sex has the greater pressure to have kids once they reach mid 30s. Women literally become incapable of having kids in their 40s. No man is sitting there thinking like …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:53 AM
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Because women date up not down. Makes little sense for the person who is the higher earner to be the stay at home parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:38 AM
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Only benefit i can see is if the womans family is super rich. In which case her family will probably resent you for not being rich. If she is a high income earner who earns MUCH more money than he does this dynamic will likely lead to divorce. If a woman thinks she is better than you then it is very likely to lead to relationship problems. Her earning more money can sometimes lead to that. This dynamic only works if the guy is in a field that doesn't pay as much but he is still very obviously ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:23 AM
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Yeah thats fine. Settling down without a wedding is a valid option. Why get married and pointlessly make things more complex. Unless it is for visa purposes there is no real reason
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:13 AM
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lot of these accounts are fake sometimes they match with men to trick gullible men to stay on the apps or trick them into paying for premium features.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:42 AM
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It's always zero if you don't get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 11:25 PM
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solid advice, except for the getting married part. always being ready and in a position to immediately find someone else is the best advice any guy can take. No matter how special a women is to you, there is someone else out there who can replace them and be just as good if not better, never forget that. Don't get too dependent on her and don't put up with needless goofy bullshit if it starts to stress you out. All marriage does for a man is introduce a sunk cost fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 11:23 PM
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Except one is almost unavoidable if you want to function in a modern society. The other one (marriage) is completely optional and of no benefit to men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 11:14 PM
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so what i don't even get what point you are making here you need to walk across roads to survive or live in most of society You don't need to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 11:10 PM
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Or you can just not get married lol. wth Since when is the only two options to get married or be alone? You know you can just not be married and not be alone... i'm doing that right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 11:04 PM
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This isn't a thing in most places. Definitely not a thing where I live.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 11:03 PM
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There is pretty much zero value in men getting married. None. Do not do it. I've seen women bail on men at random or just torpedo a perfectly stable relationship for no logical reason. 9 times out of 10 the women end up in a much worse position but hey ho. Women's feelings are Just too inconsistent and unreliable for me to put *that* much commitment into a relationship. I want to retain the ability to just bounce when they start acting all random and goofy. ​ A woman who wants you to marry them …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 10:53 PM
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? That's the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 09:49 PM
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I would have argued with you and said nobody is stupid enough to do this but ive legit encountered ppl who think cold approach is when you walk up to a woman and instantly do this. Mind boggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 09:48 PM
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Bars are one of the worst places to cold approach by far. Best places are malls, sports centres, supermarkets, shopping areas esp at airports. Airports are great.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 09:42 PM
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Learn to read body language Don't be ugly Keep initial interactions super short, only continue if she is receptive. If neutral or negative just bounce. You literally can't go wrong if you do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 09:33 PM
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Lmao going up to women and immediately asking them out with your opening line is literally the stupidest thing you can ever do. Jfc what level of social miscalibration are we dealing with here. What woman is gonna respond positively to that unless you are very attractive and have an insane amount of charisma and even then ur just handicapping urself for no reason. Someone told me i was under estimating the social awkwardness of the average reddit user but jfc thats grim if ppll are doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 09:27 PM
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Lol if you're not attracted to them then how does that happen. What are you saying to these women. Just have a short interaction and bounce immediately
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 09:17 PM
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If you have to try hard to get a woman to like you it means you failed to be attractive enough. Don't waste an extra millisecond of your time trying to change their mind or thinking about them, just move on to the next. Men put far too much effort and investment into one target which leads to exhaustion and burnout . Treat approaching women like swiping on online dating apps. Simple conversation starter, gauge her response. if it isn't immediately obviously positive, just accept you didn't meet …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 04:36 PM
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100% Most refuse to put in effort. And it isn't that hard. Focus on entirely on physical appearance. Looking good naturally increases self confidence and makes you more attractive to everyone. Improve your looks until you are proud of what you see in the mirror Learn to approach strangers. Remember rejection isn't the end of the world. If you are happy with who you are and they way you lool, rejection doesnt have to be something to be so scared of. The bigger question is, is it worth the effort.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 04:05 PM
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The amount of women a very socially awkward guy would have to approach to get adequate levels of game would take too long and he would take a mind-blowingly high amount of rejection Why would you cold approach women if you are socially awkward. Fix that first. Have brief chat with strangers. Make an effort to have even a 10 second interaction with a stranger each time youre on the bus, at a shop anywhere. Just a simple passing comment or compliment. A simple question, about something they are bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:20 AM
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You're talking about incels and black pillers. I was in a relationship when i was blue pill and absolutely clueless about women and made countless fuk ups. As i learnt from the mistakes i naturally became what i came to realise was referred to as red pilled. Its just a natural progression from naive blue pill teenage boy to a functioning man. If blue pill guys can get relationship not sure why you think red pill guys can't. Im the same person i was before just wiser with more experience, which i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:14 AM
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Not going to university doesn't mean you're uneducated. In most caribbean islands there is close to 100% literacy and all children have access to school until age 16. Many continue to 18. Stop feeding into this "developing country ppl are uneducated bullshit". you might be okay with having western karens treat ppl from your country of origin like dumb infants but im certainty not. Seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:00 AM
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If men rated every woman over weight except anorexic women no way would you be making stupid excuses saying "well actually it is because men value other qualities more that's why" No youd rightfully say men are deluded in their judgement of women's weight and id 100% agree. In your eyes women can do no wrong here. Thats on you. Its a statement of fact in this specific scenario. Most ppl including women will acknowledge it as women being wrong about men's looks. Not you cuz you're either dishones…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 06:32 AM
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Gee. I wish most men thought of that Yeah they think of it, but don't do anything. More doing, less thinking. I mentioned what they should do. Go to the gym, play a sport that will get you fit. Practise good self care. Take care of your skin. Save a decent amount of cash over a year, find a friend who is into designer clothes, get them to help you find a style you like. Always look immaculate when you step outside. ​ It's possible to get some conversations going but usually the guy won't get nea…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:40 AM
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1/ be attractive 2/ Cold approach initially just involves talking to someone who is a stranger. Most ppl are fine having a brief, contextually logical interactions with ppl they don't know unless they are socially maladjusted. (ie if you're at an airport you can comment on someones outfit and if it is a light outfit you can ask them if they are going somewhere warm etc.) Bam simple convo, if she seems interested ask her more about her trip and go from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:34 AM
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if you're cold approaching then you literally only make moves if she seems interested so why exactly are you saying it doesn't work when you are suggesting doing the same thing lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:20 AM
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I can't believe this has to be said, but it really seems like it has to be said. Some ppl really think cold approach means you just walk up to a woman and just immediately ask her out. lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:17 AM
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Then be attractive Go to the gym, play a sport that will get you fit. Practise good self care. Take care of your skin. Save a decent amount of cash over a year, find a friend who is into designer clothes, get them to help you find a style you like. Always look immaculate when you step outside. You then get B by talking to women and approaching them. Just short convos about anything. Start with women you aren't attracted to or just random strangers, go fro there. This is all doable within a year …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:11 AM
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Approaching random girls you don’t even know will only resort to them saying “I have a boyfriend sorry” or they’ll just straight up say they aren’t interested. Why would they just immediately say "i don't have a boyfriend sorry" unless you literally just walk up and ask them out?!? Just start a convo with them about anything. Even if a women suspects you are hitting on her, what sane girl instantly replies to anything a guy says with"I don't have a boyfriend". If anything that just filters out s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:01 AM
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Blah blah women can do no wrong typical. Dunno why i expect intelligent convo when it comes to topics like this. The study is about looks. Men rate women on a bell curve meaning their rating is based in reality as that is how everyone's looks is distrubuted Straight men rate other men on a bell curve Straight women rate women on a bell curve Lesbians rate women on a bell curve Straight men rate women on a bell curve All based in reality. Funny how only one pairing is delusional! The only area th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 10:35 PM
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The survey had nothing to do with overall attraction. Simply rating looks. It is not possible for 85% of men to be below average which indicates women have a skewed view of reality where they think they themselves are close to 10 in looks and most men are like a 3. Aka unrealistic standards, they all want Chad. . Also lesbian women rate other women on a bell curve so that alone invalidates your mumbo jumbo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 08:57 PM
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Before phones and the internet less attractive men had a chance. They could make up for their physicals disadvantages with humour, intelligence and charm. Now women swipe left and reject the majority of men, they are never given a chance Men never could make up for lack of physicals that's mostly a myth. Women just settle on looks once their options start drying up. But thats not why dating apps are bad. What was different before is women had much less access to Chad so they weren't as deluded i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:17 PM
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IRL? Not a chance. Most are not like this at all. Most ppl who are Red-Pilled arent a terminally online debate bro, debating ppl in person at every opportunity, but usually you can tell from the way they live their life and handle relationships. Most successful guys are red pill since blue pill naivety gets eaten alive even more in the more ruthless area of life which is what generally happens when money and status is involved
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:52 PM
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From what ive seen, the only people who think women in poorer non western countries are naive, dumb, uneducated and easily fooled, are arrogant western women who think they are better than them and need to "protect" them. Some of them going as far as to imply that these women are like sex slaves and engaging in prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:21 PM
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Can I ask which countries you would be referring to when you say these girls don't have options? Like where is this personal opinion coming from? Experience? Have you lived in any of these countries? Gone to school there? Do you know what the education system is like? It really does show just how western dominated online spaces like reddit are because I guarantee you if I were to show women in their 20s and 30s in my grandparents home country, people who you would no doubt consider to have "poor…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 11:13 AM
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Those girls are indeed poor, uneducated and thus can be easily fooled. Plus the grooming smell of the situation. Really REALLY tired of this bullshit. There are different levels of poor country, but most "poor countries" outside the west aren't countries where people are starving. Men aren't going to Somalia and finding starving homeless women desperate for food and making them wives with promises of food and a home. As a 3rd generation immigrant born in the west with grandparents from a non-wes…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 11:00 AM
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they could even find a girl who works as a Starbucks Barista in downtown L.A with nothing else going for her and she would likely may a much better partner than an already established, rich female celebrity. Why can't a rich female celebrity who likely shares a lot in common with a rich male celebrity, but a better partner? I don't see why random barista would automatically be a better match.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 09:05 AM
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This is the rule I use: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/17fuykb/comment/k6db88o/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 08:53 AM
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Stoicism isn't really attractive. I used to think like you and went through a period where I thought being stoic was a good thing. I suspect maybe you've had the same issue in the past as I did where you'd open up too much about your feelings to a woman and it seemed to be a good idea for a while when the relationship was going well and was received positively by her, only to have them thrown back in your face later on. Women like when men are emotional about their troubles. BUT, and this is ABS…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 08:49 AM
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Don't look like shit then???
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 01:03 AM
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Close to 100% of my current social circle are friends I've met thru activities after graduating as I've drifted apart from old school friends over time as we no longer live in close proximity. Current friends were all met through activities like sports as I play various sports a few times a week, through music and also just family and their social circle of friends who i also get to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 01:00 AM
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lol if you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 12:45 AM
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But in reality way more than 15% of women date a 5'8 man so again it is a example of what women say and what they do, being different. 1/ OLD is a bad measure for this as it skews towards looks only. Also women on dating apps have extreme levels of delusion because they get 100s of matches but in reality there are simply not enough men who are taller than 5'8 for the 85% of women to pair with. Majority of women are gonna either have to settle for someone who isn't 6ft or just stay single. Also i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 12:27 AM

It is almost impossible for a woman to be 5'4" 170 lbs and have enough of that weight be muscle for them to be healthy. That person would look literally NOTHING like the average woman either, they'd be some sort of elite athlete. Please show me this mythical 5'4" 170lbs woman who isn't overweight and just stores muscle and fat differently
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 10:47 PM
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If a guy is 5'9 and fit and women dont like him that's almost certainly on him. That's literally average height, most women don't have a problem with a guy who is 5'9. He can just lie and say he is 5'11 and they'll never know the difference anyway. A guy can add 2 inches to his height and the average woman would not be able to tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 10:43 PM
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Women never lied to them, men just didn't pay attention to what women were doing. If they actually paid attention to women's actions they'd have seen looks matter tremendously. In fact all it takes is for you to go from being overweight and unfashionable to being in shape fit and dress well to see the absolute night and day difference in how women react to you. Sometimes it can feel like you can do no wrong if you are attractive enough to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 10:38 PM
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Absolutely not. Looks matter an extreme amount. It's good though because if the average guy doesn't think looks matter it just makes it much easier for those who do. Average guy doesn't know anything about fashion, anything about skincare, anything about staying fit. So any guy who puts a lot of effort into those 3 things can easily be way above average. Meanwhile average joe can work on his "personality" until they are blue in the face and still remain average joe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 10:35 PM
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A lot of incels are only looking at online dating in which case it is true. But IRL it is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 10:32 PM
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Men literally rate women exactly on a perfect bell curve which is how almost every single physical attribute in nature is distributed. Height, weight, intelligence, shoe size. When women rate men it is not even close to a bell curve, pretty all men are rated below average, which is literally impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 10:27 PM
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Women complaining they can't get men with certain attributes when they were surrounded by men with those attributes then inevitably they end up dating a really good looking guy who has precisely zero of those attributes. The relationship ends, they cry that the guy never did X for them or didn't act a certain way, and proceed to date another good looking guy who has none of the attributes they claimed they wanted. Basically they'd just keep entering relationships the best looking guy who approac…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 10:25 PM

If you mean purely physical attractiveness then thats debatable but if you mean overall attractiveness then no way. A man has other attributes that can be attractive to women, mainly status. A woman's primary attribute of attraction is physical beauty of which fat women have very little if any. Take the comedian Jack Black and the singer Lizzo. Even tho Jack Black is a chubby overweight guy he is exceptionally charismatic and high status and many women will find him attractive. Pretty much no gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 10:04 PM

5'4" 170lbs is literally borderline obese. It is shocking the average american is that overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 09:38 PM

In their 20s sure. After that not really. By their 40s no way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 09:30 PM
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Where outside of tiny pockets in human history in very specific geographic locations is small penis (or being fat) considered a good thing or any other negative attribute for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 05:14 PM
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Most divorce has nothing to do with being settled for. The way women and men operate in pairing means men are almost always being settled for. Men are only really a true placeholder for women when women are in their 20s. After that each time a woman leaves a relationship to start a new one it is very likely her next partner will be a downgrade. A much smaller pool of good available men + fading looks + increased desperation means they have to settle more and more. All the women in their 30s and …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:48 PM
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Yes but that's just a community of people who probably had small dicks declaring something they don't possess is bad. It would be like a group of fat people suddenly declaring that because they are all fat, that now slim people are barbaric and unsightly. I guess it can work if you can stick within that community, but millennia of human evolution suggests the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:33 PM
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. In general there are a lot more women who are into massive dongs (size queens) than there are women into small dicks. Obviously because the only women into small dicks are literally midgets and few people are midgets. I've never in my entire life heard a woman talk proudly about small her boyfriends dick is, this is pure cap from you here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:28 PM
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Gotta love all the women coming in here to say no one cares about penis size. Women ridicule men for being old, short and bald.. because they don't like those things Same principle applies to dick size. When it comes to things like this don't look at what women say look at what they do. That's all you need to know to realise it matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:25 PM
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For sex, it just comes down to testosterone, that won't change. For marriage men's standards are pretty normal and if anything are increasing. Passport bros becoming a thing is one a example of men's standards increasing as the average woman in the west cannot compete with women in other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:15 PM
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That's an absolute joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:10 PM
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If not, would a man who usually gets zero attention be willing to have sex with a girl that wants to sleep with him out of "pity" (for example), even after she said to him that she finds him unattractive? That's so sad! This is the common disconnect between men and women that many women don't understand. A man can easily sleep with a woman he has no meaningful romantic connection with either because he doesn't want one, or she doesn't want one. In fact I'm a man who gets more than enough attenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:02 PM
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She can pay for half the date then?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:52 PM
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First date is coffee or brunch. I don't mind paying a few bucks for a coffee for someone I do this for friends all the time, if they offer to pay, I say they can get the next one. If the second date is a light lunch, or coffee/brunch again. If they offer to pay I'll let them. I'll suggest we go somewhere nice for a 3rd date. Then on that 3rd date I'll pay even if they offer to. If they don't offer to pay for neither the first or second date, I will insist on splitting the bill on the 3rd dinner …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:55 PM

Initially both have unrealistic dating expectations but women hold on to them for an absolutely incredible length of time. Men get brought down to earth VERY quickly, sometimes even before they become men, often as early as their teens, especially if they try out online dating. I don't think it is possible for a man with ANY self awareness to reach 25 years old and maintain unrealistic dating expectations unless they literally live in fantasy land. The millisecond they create a dating app accoun…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:34 PM
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Thing is even with medical disorders and many disabilities it is accomplishable. My great grandmother lived to almost 100 and at no point in her life was she overweight, even in her 90s when her mobility was almost completely gone. A person in their 20s and 30s has no excuse. The number of adults in their 20s and 30s that have worse medical disorders and disabilities than someone in their 70s and 80s is almost zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 10:08 AM
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Nothing shallow about it at all. Being fat is unhealthy, a sign of a lack of self-control and visibly unappealing. Many people you can tell they would look so much more attractive if they lost weight. The fact that they themselves must know this, but still won't even put in this basic effort is a sign of absolute laziness and lack of self-control. All of these are negative traits and it is not shallow to want to exclude ppl with them. Would you date and marry a lazy man who refuses to put basic …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:59 AM
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nonsense, stop eating as much and you'll lose weight. No amount of genetics can counter the laws of physics.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:42 AM
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someone who is 5'1 should not be over 125lbs. 5'1 150lbs is not just fat, it is borderline obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:39 AM
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There are men that will date, love and cherish you. Attractive ones at that. This is just as delusional as fat men thinking they can get the hot looking model. Attractive men have no reason to date fat women unless it is their fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:22 AM
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okay this is pissing me tf off User Flair - Available for Members Users are encouraged to set their own flair using the button in the home page sidebar. Can someone screenshot me where this button is I see no button.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:13 PM
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Pretty much this I have many friends who are women that I find sexually attractive. You can't really control who you are sexually attracted to, or find attractive. Almost none of them were befriended because I was attracted to them, mainly because I was already in a relationship when I met many of them or we met through mutual interests not because I wanted to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:02 PM
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I saw that comment. Super cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:25 PM
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Men can party on the cheap bro! you know this!!!😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:19 PM
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The wall for women is a combination of many things. They are aware their looks are fading, makeup can only do so much, and even if they still look good, they still can't really compete with women in their 20s. Most of the good men in their age range are already paired up (especially because the age of the men they are interested are also hitting the wall themselves) Also their chance to have a child within their healthy fertility window is closing in. The sudden realisation of all 3 of these thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:16 PM
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By far on average it is 30s, but for some men it is 20s for some it is 40s. As with everything there are outliers. It isn't impossible for men to peak in their 40s but it requires a combination of many factors . ​ Not be bald: Only 60% of men will still have the majority of their hair in their 40s Be physically fit: Less than 20% of men over 40 are a healthy weight. Have good skin: Only 15% of men even use sunscreen, so once they hit 40 their face will look like blotched sandpaper. Only 25% of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:00 PM
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It’s sad because a lot of them claim that men peak in their 40s and 50s. Never heard anyone say men peak in their 50s for dating. For dating Men mostly peak in their 30s, with some who peak in their 20s and some in their 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:37 PM
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It's women that want this though. They can choose not to have an expensive wedding and marry younger, I'm sure almost 100% of guys won't mind not having an expensive wedding.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:32 PM
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I'd have to agree to a certain extent Judging from the amount of men who are afraid of approaching women. And the amount of men who try and dissuade men from doing this either for irrational fears of being accused of assault, or because they are blue pilled and think that it is harassment to merely cold approach a woman. ​ But that's more a by product of the deeper issue. Too many boys aren't raised to teach them what they need to become a man. They aren't taught what is important in dating ie: …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 08:52 PM
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i never said it was anyones fault, men or women that men have have to do what they do I was simply explaining why men focusing on themselves and trying to become stronger and more independent, is not rooted in self centeredness, it actually usually the opposite. The men avoid doing this are the men who reject society and stay single and childless and the very type of lonely incel male that is viewed extremely negatively. In your world view of men there actually is no way to win Either the man ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 08:27 PM
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It does, but a man also needs to focus on himself to become stronger. Guys are forced to be self-reliant much more than women. Sometimes the only way a guy can learn this and become stronger and the type of person that can actually go out into the world and provide for and protect a family is to go through a period of focusing on themselves. This often happens at a low point in a guys life when realise that they way they acted as a boy (and guys can acts like boys well into their 20s and beyond)…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 07:14 PM
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??? Lots of women definitely do care, again maybe it is a minority and given it is the internet as always the minority can get very loud but the idea that women don't care is definitely false. Some people just hate to see others happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:33 PM
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Most countries have legal prostitution so they don't have to go overseas to pay for sex, so not everyone who goes overseas and has sex is a sex pat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:31 PM
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None of that necessitates only thinking about the betterment of yourself at the expense of others or that men put their own needs first. Competitiveness can be mutually beneficial and more often than not it is. Men competing with each other can make the entire group stronger as a whole. Winning and losing does always have to be zero sum. Being strong often is motivated by the willingness to protect someone else, usually family/friends. If a man wants to protect his family he needs to be strong a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:19 PM
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Sadly most people either don't have that fortitude or are in a weak mental state themselves and either don't notice these ppl are insane and not representative of the average person or don't care and both parties mutually amplify each others hate of the opposite group. Ppl like that probably should not interact with mentally unstable ppl who's only goal is often to provoke and get a rise out of the group of people they hate, but hey ho, it's the internet anything goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:05 PM
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And you think anecdotes aren't subject to the same "dirty hidden realities" as social science research? I mean anecdotes can be 100% straight up fiction. Pretty much every single peer reviewed study is at least grounded in some form of reality even if the methods are dubious
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:52 PM
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I agree it is illogical to blame women for caring about looks and money and not being nice to socially awkward men. I think it is is more what women say is very very different from what they do.(which is precisely why it is commonly said in redpill circles, don't listen to what women say, observe what they do) The frustration mainly comes from women saying X then men observing that actually the truth is often the literal opposite. Silly advice like "Don't cold approach" or "Don't cold approach a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:42 PM
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Try reading crystal cafe, it's the ultimate femcel space. Blew my mind. Bruh that place is straight up gold. what the hell, I have not laughed my ass off so hard in ages. First thread and it's a woman who is in the best relationship she's ever had and he is better in every way from all her previous relationships... except he's not that hot. Then she says she "almost left him for multiple guys" (read she's probably cheated on him with hotter guys, but will stick with him until a hot guy with a pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:45 AM
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It's not that common but there are a handful of women who here who I've encountered in the very brief time I've been here who I legitimately think have pretty serious mental issues and just have an irrational hatred of men and come off as VERY deranged and seem to a kick out of trying to make men hate women. (Misery loves company) They tend to also be VERY loud and so can give the illusion that such derangement is more common than it is. Also this is the internet so that sort of derangement is f…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:15 AM
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Well, no. At least not to me. I guess I was biased towards a slightly younger age group which doesn’t usually struggle with these things. Exactly, Non chads who don't pass your current high standards might get a second chance, but man boob guy, no chance. ​ But I’m sure older women who face similar problems (typical patterns of weight gain due to age) could potentially overlook these physical issues as well. Thats not how it works.. If you put on 50lb right now, would you suddenly find man boobs…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:51 AM
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Noone thinks a pedophile is someone who finds a 17 years old 364 days person attractive either though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:17 AM
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Exactly and the better looking the guy, the more and more positive his other attributes appear to be. Ugly guy with X personality approaches woman and hits on her "ew creep" and she is scared away Average looking guy does the same thing, it is fine, Good looking guy does the same thing and he's fantastic. Why ppl pretend ugly guys repel women is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:05 AM
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I wasn't physically attracted to initially became attractive when I got to know them better or became friends with them. They still didn't become physically attractive though. A persons dangling beer gut, man boobs don't become physically appealing all of a sudden just because they have a nice personality. Also what guy wants to be with a woman who doesn't find them physically attractive!? But good on you for giving those ppl a chance. Guys shouldn't rely on that though, many women will not give…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:55 AM
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What you can change however is your behavior, and your actions, Ive lived in areas in the u.s where its very common to have both short men and women near the mexican border. Yeah short guys in the west are better off passport bro'ing to countries with much shorter men. That's something I've seen advocated for. Probably a good idea. ​ Improving his looks as a 5'2 man will have ZERO effect. Yes because women in most countries won't give a 5'2 a chance, as you said he'll have to move to a place whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:41 AM
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Literally not a libertarian, in fact I don't really like libertarians for the exact same age of consent shenanigans they like to pull. In fact I've argued with libertarians over the entire age of consent thing constantly and no, I do not agree with them. I'm just stating what is the actual fact. A pedophile isn't someone who finds someone who is 17 years old 364 days attractive, it is someone who find pre-pubescent children attractive. But hey, found the person who has to insert their politics i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:38 PM
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Nobody likes competition. Most women (and men) in the west are borderline obese. The average western woman cannot compete with the average woman in non western countries. Most glaring example would be places like central america and south america where the average western woman would probably be a 2 at best. I've never seen extremely good looking women in the west caring about passport bros because they are confident enough in their own skin and don't really feel threatened by good looking and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:37 PM
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??? except 18 year olds aren't children, also pedophillia is attraction to literally pre-pubescent children. There is no such thing as a pre-pubescent 18 year old as most humans have all hit puberty by 14.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:11 PM
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Where did I say I was lonely? My relationship with my brother is fine thank you very much. Neither of us are lonely in the slightest. When shit hits the fan I know he has my back and vice versa, that's what matters to us and what most guys value between each other in friendships. I don't belittle women for thinking that remembering birthdays etc is important, if I know it is important to them and if that person is important to me I make the effort to remember. I always remember my partners birth…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:08 PM
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This isn't even remotely true not even for incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 10:18 PM
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Men are socialised to always put themselves and their needs first. ​ Wait what, when did this happen?!? Did someone skip this part of my upbringing? ​ Men don’t form deep friendships with other men because they think showing your emotional, caring side is emasculating. That's not why. It's often because doing this very rarely works out well in the end and men are eventually forced to hide their emotions until they learn to control them enough that they are no longer an issue. Showing emotions is…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 10:02 PM
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Who is arguing that and what does it even have to do with pedophilia and misogyny?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 08:16 PM
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Chad sure as hell isn't pulling any sexual numbers above any realm of average either, the average attractive male only manages to muster a body count of 12 according to studies on the matter lmfao Chad is not the average attractive male so I'm not even sure what point you are making here. ​ (also lets not ignore the reverse halo effect for calling chad too dumb to read an evolutionary biology book) Lol what are you even talking about. Reverse halo effect? No one cares if Chad isn't a scholar you…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 08:09 PM
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I'm just here to help men avoid falling into the trap of "working on their personality" when looks is what matters far more. Most ppl already have enough personality to function socially. You can pretend the halo effect isn't real and that attractive people are rated higher in pretty much all attributes solely because of their looks but I live in reality. You do you boo. Chad sure as hell ain't reading evolutionary biology books you silly nerd.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 04:43 PM
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​ There's many reasons why some people don't conform to traditional gender roles, and the Red Pill and dating coaches don't seem to understand that. ​ I think you misunderstand. It doesn't matter what the actual reasons are for people not conforming to gender roles in a relationship. All that matters is that it can and/does cause problems in relationships and red pill makes sure men are aware of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 01:53 PM
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Times change, what was once niche no longer is. Looksmaxxing is a term i've heard on occasion. I didn't know it's origin at all, but does it even matter. The idea of becoming the best version of yourself is a good one. Social media has just highlighted what was always true, a person's attractiveness matters significantly in every aspect of life. Social media has just ramped up the amplification on this. ​ As for dating apps, no need to ban them. Men need to just get off them asap, they are not d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 01:41 PM
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Most women like men (and vice versa) Online social media can sometimes skew that perception as the more socially maladjusted people tend to be the loudest ppl in those arenas, so you'll see a disproportion amount of women-hating men and men-hating women dumping their mental issues out onto the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 01:23 PM
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Most important thing by far is spend time improving your looks until they are above average. With the average person being overweight and taking minimal at best care of their body, merely being in decent physical shape and taking care of your hygiene and good skin care is enough to bring a below average person up to at least average. But you can do much better than the bare minimum. If you're not under 15% body fat as a guy then that should be the first goal. Meet people in person, shared intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 01:12 PM
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my parents were pretty much party animals in their youth. My dad was 6'3 and very good looking, full set of hair well into his 60s (he gave me the strong hairline gene, but didn't give me the height gene or as much of the looks sadly as above average in looks at best but no where near chad level looks and slightly above average height at 5'10, literally the exact average of both my parents height and probably looks as I'd say my mother was slightly above average in looks but my dad was well abov…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 12:13 PM
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no body is talking about drugging anyone, the discussion is literally about social circles where people are willingly taking drugs stop being dishonest. And sexual interactions is a game to some people, both men and women. If it isn't a game to you that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:26 AM

Apologies i wasn't accusing you of being incel, My comment was more I think the *rise* in men resenting women is mostly from that group. I think it's only natural for views of the opposite sex to fluctuate during dating, especially as our preconceived notions of the opposite sex become shattered, it can cause disillusionment and sometimes resentment that indeed as you say has nothing to do with being incel
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:22 AM
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I think it should be banned fullstop, or gyms should have specific times when it is allowed, so that regular people know to avoid going then, or know what to expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:08 AM

I think the resentment is mostly an internet incel thing and comes from men not being successful at dating due to many factors from just being plain unattractive/socially awkwards or due to being lied to often gaslit and given shit advice (usually blue pill advice, or advice from women) on how to find and maintain a relationship. They see it doesn't work and they see guys doing none of that and those same women flock to those guys instead (ie Chad) . ​ If men try discuss certain dynamics they ob…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 10:05 AM
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wtf are you talking about? How does having less restrictions on what you want in a woman mean you can't get a girlfriend or mean you don't like women? To me it doesn't matter that a woman has accomplishments AT ALL and in fact is often can be a negative, especially if the woman is hyper competitive. If she has accomplishments, but doesn't talk about them constantly then thats perfectly okay. I mostly care about how empathetic and caring and trustworthy they are, that by far is the most important…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 09:39 AM
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the physical hurdle is also extremely low for women to clear, most of the time it is simply don't be overweight, The reason looks matter so much for men is it is not only the first hurdle but also part of all the other hurdles. Charm and charisma is a minor secondary feature (compared to physical appearance). It is ALSO highly related to looks, as in the better looking you are, the more likely you will be considered charismatic. This is the well known Halo Effect and that is extremely important …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 09:01 AM
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oh ffs there is always some nerd saying this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 11:44 PM

Ah so if a woman says she doesn't date black men that's not racist, gotcha. Profile literally says "No blacks, no asians" But ofc that's not racist! lmao love it. women can do no wrong in your eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 11:38 PM
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Some guys are desperate or some guys just straight up ignore the dysfunctional aspects of a woman or think they can fix her with their "handsome charms". I've been guilty of that in the past. Red flags galore but hey she's into me so maybe i can fix her? Wrong. Also once you start getting used to being around dysfunctional women you tend to be drawn to them even more for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:45 PM
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just don't be ugly and it will be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:39 PM
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Just avoid the ones with the tripod who are just there for attention and tiktok views, they literally filter themselves out for you automatically.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:37 PM
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Straight facts by OP. Guys need to understand online dating is a waste of time for at least 80% of men. ​ If your not - at least a 7-8 in looks, - 6 ft tall (or tall enough that you can get away with lying about being 6 ft tall ie 5'10+), - have excellent semi-professional looking profile pics showing a lavish lifestyle and/or reasonably active social media presence. ​ then online dating is almost certainly a very inefficient use of time even for average or slightly above average guys and you wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:31 PM
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Men = Visual Women = just as visual + more stuff So no women are not less visual than men. In fact women's criteria is even harsher because one of the main physical attributes they reject guys over is height, something that cannot be changed. If man has a criteria that the woman has to be athletically fit, and a woman has a criteria that a man has to be athletically fit AND 6ft tall and have a high income and a good personality, in which universe does that mean the woman is less visual? The man …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 08:43 PM

are you being stupid on purpose or you seriously expect anyone to believe no women are racist? Also lol at never heard women speak badly of short men. I won't even bother respond to that as I doubt anyone will even deny this so you just look like a fool.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 08:23 PM
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That doesn't mean women are less visual it just means male arousal is simpler and can be achieved almost entirely from visual stimulus alone, which we all know. When people say women are less visual, it carries with it an implication that looks matter less to a woman then it does to guys, and that's not even remotely true and if anything it matters more to women. Just because women don't instantly wet their panties when Chad appears doesn't mean Chad's looks aren't important All you need to do i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:38 PM
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What a hilariously dumb comparison. I wonder which is more common in a relationship? Cheating? Or murder?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:35 PM
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women are less visual, Literally false. This lie is repeated so much. Just look at how much women care about a man's height. It's not that women are less visual, it's that there are additional barriers other than visual that matter to women some of which aren't immediately apparent so women take longer to access a guy. For men trying to appeal to women it is like a hurdle race where the first hurdle is Physical attractiveness and then many other hurdles follow (income, status, personality, educa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:38 PM
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Maybe stop hanging around upper middle class ppl? I mean if every millennial you encounter is upper middle class who thinks life is easy mode for everyone then find better social circles, I've never met one like that but I'm sure they exist, but that's not unique to millennials. It's why I literally can't even relate remotely to what you are talking about. I and every millenial I know literally tell Genz not to give a shit what boomers think about living at home because us millennials were liter…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:16 PM
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No it's not. They may be not be comfortable yet They may be unwell They may not feel safe to be alone with the person. They may not want to develop feelings too quickly. There are tons of reasons that have nothing to do with manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 12:35 PM
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I think it is more specifically *physical* attraction. No amount of the women getting to know the man better is going to change physical attraction. And it is specifically *want* to have sex, but not necessarily *have*. Most women know immediately after a first date if they are attracted enough to a guy that the would consider him someone they will have sex with. That doesn't mean they will after the first date, but the desire or at the very least the consideration is already there and it will b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 12:32 PM
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I legit think you don't know the difference between boomers and millennials. As a millennial I have yet to meet a *single* millennial who agrees with boomers when they say the same opportunities are available to younger people. Not one, and almost ALL of my friends are millennials and not a single one thinks that. Literally not one, I'm not even being hyperbolic here. And they all agree it is obviously even worse for GenZ, as nothing has improved since millennials were much younger. Gonna have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 12:15 PM
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So why would I commit to someone if they only primarily value me for something temporary? Uh everyone values physical attractiveness in a partner and that is temporary. You're then just assuming it is the primary thing they value you for. ​ once you’re in your 30s and dating men your age, you know they’re not after you for solely superficial factors and the hopes you’ll be impressionable and not have a backbone. Wait how exactly do you know they're not after you for solely superficial factors ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 11:54 AM
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You can sleep around and have high standards, you just avoid uggos. Also high standards don't mean anyone requires effort to get to know, it just means you have to be highly attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 11:19 AM
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just as older people also stupidly believe young people have the same economic opportunities available decades ago No one in their 30s and 40s thinks younger people have the same economic opportunities available decades ago. ​ You are confusing Boomers with millennials.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 10:31 AM
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most men *can* do this, but very few will want to put the effort in to do it as it's genuinely not worth the effort and better to be single than do this. The amount of men who can effortlessly do this is probably top 5-10% aka Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 02:27 AM
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The entire point of the photo iirc is that the women all weigh roughly the same. If I had to guess, their weight is between 150-160lbs as the woman who is 5'11 is roughly the same height as me except at least 10-20 lbs heavier than me and i'm 5'10 140lbs. The women 5'4 and 5'2 are also clearly overweight so they definitely are not under 140lbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 02:18 AM
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i never said 5'4 150lbs is obese. 5'4 180lbs is obese. 5'4 150lbs is overweight. It's not hideous at all, but doesn't bode well for the future. A young woman at this height in their 20s or 30s should not already be this weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 02:10 AM
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? What is morally incorrect about carrying your legal right to do a paternity test on your own kid. Am I missing sometihng? It doesn't require the mother's DNA so there is no need for her consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:31 PM

More fearmongering definitely more to the story.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:26 PM

Most ppl don't have lots of muscle so it works just fine for most ppl. Also 5'10 140lbs is a perfectly healthy weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:23 PM
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maybe that person can go with the fat girls then I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:19 PM
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Yikes I literally did not believe you until I checked. Holy shit thats diire. The average woman is 171lbs not just overweight but borderline obese! The average man is also almost obese... 5'4 150lbs is already too fat, 180lbs is just ridiculous. :o
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:16 PM
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Why would you even ask her???? Just do the paternity test, if it turns out the person is the father then just continue as normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:33 PM
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Exactly, this always baffles me, the entire thing is a non issue. The father can just go get a paternity test done, it's legally his child so he can give consent for the child's DNA to be tested.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:27 PM
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Hmm i wonder which number is higher... the number of fat millionaires, or the number of non-fat millionaires. ​ Hmm....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:14 PM
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Dumb comparison. The default state for the human body is to not be fat and overweight, how many obese newborn babies have you ever seen? Literally zero. The default state of a person is not to earn 200K, a 200K salary is like the top 1% of earners and your analogy would only make sense if the demand was the woman needed to have the body and strength of an elite athlete,. Simply being able to do basic shit like walk up steps without being out of breath isn't a top 1% ask, it's basic shit ever nor…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:11 PM
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depends on the definition of fat but for me a woman who is average height (5'4) has no business being ANYWHERE NEAR 200lbs. If they are closer to 200lbs than 100lbs then thats a red flag. To me it shows a lack of self control and that they don't value their appearance or health. Not to mention I don't find rolls of fat physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:01 PM
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uh no, any woman who is like 5'4 and 180lbs+ in their 20s or 30s is gonna not live a regular life at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:53 PM
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Present them, please. What do you mean "present them"? It literally math 1 - (0.5) ^ 10 If 50% of men are seducers pretending to be nice guys, then if you assemble 10 random men, the chance at least one of them is a seducer is 1 -(0.5)^10. which is 99.93%. How do you know if she does? If she has no guy friends then then entire discussion is moot and there is no reason to be uncomfortable! Isn't the entire discussion about women having guy friends, if the girl has no guy friends then there is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 03:47 PM
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Would you really be comfortable having your boyfriend constantly be around a hot girl Yes. Well good for you. Most people aren't that naive or gullible. ​ Where do you see “you know 100% is trying seduce them when you're not around?” It is simple statistics. It doesn't have to be all 100% trying to seduce them! If most nice guys are just thirsty guys ie > 50% then if a girl has at least 10 nice guy friends around her, there is literally almost 100% ( > 99.9%) chance at *least one* of them is try…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 03:38 PM
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How is that insecurity? They never said stop her from having male friends, but if what you say is true and that nice guys are just thirsty guys then obviously someone who believes this will be uncomfortable with their girl having male friends who are single.. Would you really be comfortable having your boyfriend constantly be around a hot girl you know 100% is trying seduce them when you're not around? No one is saying act like a jealous lunatic, but to pretend there would be absolutely NO disco…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 02:06 PM
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call it friendship friendzone whatever. The semantics of it is kinda irrelevant A guy seeks a romantic relationship with a girl and she only sees him as a friend. Assign this dynamic whatever word you want, many people refer to it as being friendzoned. That's the dynamic many men find themselves in. If men are direct, (in a tasteful way ofc) it can be an interaction that isn't unpleasant, avoids misunderstandings and decreases the chances of this dynamic happening. ​ *edit* as for my definition …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:10 PM
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redpill guys by definition have experience. Normal men are redpilled, they just don't explicitly identify as redpill because they managed to learn what they needed to learn from experience/life and didn't need to rely on explict repill content. Most people do not. Redpill is kind of a meaningless term because it means different things to everyone. To you it probably means incels who suck with women, men who hate women and people who listen to andrew tate. The redpill men you are talking about ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:23 AM

It can be *both* factor and an convenient excuse. Most of the time it is just the latter. If they were willing to cheat for that there is an infinite number of other rationalisations in their head that they think it is okay to cheat for, and they eventually just pick the one that they think will deflect the most responsibility way from themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:48 AM
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I looked thru the comments, one or two women actually gave surprisingly good advice that I had to check if they were actually women, so that was a pleasant surprise. There is a lot more to dating than "what women want". Sure women might be best placed to advise on what they want and that is important, but that's a tiny part of the entire topic of dating/relationships or having a family. If a guy only listens to what women want and thinks that will improve is success at relationships, it will jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:29 AM
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I think men tend to do this. Women care a lot more about what a guy has going on upstairs and his personality, etc. This is straight up CAP. Women are just as shallow as men, it's just that looks alone are enough for a guy to consider women, whereas women are just as shallow over looks but some times wants many other attributes as well, eg height, income.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:14 AM
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​ How is being alpha or redpilled "female exclusionary". A perspective that is predominately male without any bullshit or sugar coating of truths. So which is it? Firstly Redpill advice doesn't even exclude women, simply that the perspective is primarily from a male point of view as surprise surprise the people best poised to help men with a problem unique to men... is other men! I asked about how is BEING redpilled "female exclusionary". What you quoted me saying was me describing the *source* …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:08 AM
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Love all the responses here trying to shame men who want to ask for a paternity test. Also there is no need for the guy to "ask" the mother for anything. The father can just go get a paternity test. If they are the legal parent of the child they don't need to ask the mother for permission to test the child's dna and they have every right to check if they are actually the childs father. ​ This is why you don't ask women for advice on serious relationship topics that only affects guys and that wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 02:44 AM
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The hell are you talking about. A dna test requires the consent of the ppl whose DNA is to be tested. The only DNA necessary for this test is the DNA of the father and the child. If the person is underage then it requires the consent of a legal parent. Thus the father alone can has permission to do a paternity test.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 02:42 AM
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Just noticed this is listed as "Question for Women" Why on earth would you only ask women to give advice to guys who struggle with dating. Are you deliberately fishing for bad advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 02:36 AM
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If a man were actually "alpha", he wouldn't be self identifying as one or basing his dating strategy on being one. He would, it would just be an accurate self assessment if he actual was alpha. Self-identifying doesn't mean "make believe". I'm a guy and i also self identify as a guy. It is an accurate self assessment. Likewise a person can be alpha and self identify as one... sure a person can be just a regular loser who thinks they are alpha, but that's not necessarily the case. I don't identif…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 02:32 AM

Cheating on you because you're always working is just a convenient excuse to deflect responsibility. People who said that would have cheated regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:57 AM
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Lots of guys also comfortably self identify as alpha, redpilled, incel, or any other traditionally female exclusionary subset of ideologies. If you wouldn't meet a woman you were interested in and lead off with mentioning being an incel, then its clearly not something you want to associate yourself with. So why do it? You can self identify as being redpilled or alpha without announcing it to everyone you date... only socially awkward people we go around telling dates they are red pilled and alph…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:53 AM

If you are talking about women in their early/mid 20s then sure random 40 year old is gonna have to have money to compete or become a passport bro (if that is their goal). If you are talking about women in their early mid 30s then Chad is much less of a threat as those women are looking for commitment and these are the same women who couldn't get Chad to commit when they were in their 20s so they sure as hell aren't gonna get him to commit when they are in their 30s and they know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:28 AM
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100% this. Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:06 PM

well if you acknowledge the the idea that an average guy is SOL on dating apps (which is so trivially true) then there is ultimately no actual disagreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:52 PM
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As I guy i've legit found it to be the opposite, I see women get shamed far more for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:19 PM
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don't confuse people disliking your bullshit as someone hating all women. In fact if you learned to read I'm literally telling the person I'm responding to not to paint all women with the same brush and not to project your bullshit on to all women as most women aren't trash like you. Hope this helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:17 PM

Sure talking in person yes if you are average looking you can make it work but you have to make up for it in other areas so ultimately you do need to be above average in other areas imo, but it's not that hard to do. ​ As for online apps, you are miles off base. Guy who is a 5/10 in looks is invisible on a dating app to women. Literally invisible. They might as well put silhouette as their profile pic. Won't even waste time trying to argue this since obviously you're not a guy since no guy would…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:14 PM
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OP is hardly representative of most women. I don't know a single woman who will flirt with a man for her own amusement then get pissed and act like a victim whenever a guy interprets their flirting for romantic interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 07:56 PM
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Why are you flirting with someone you have no romantic interest in? Only person who seems to be getting free ego boosts is yourself. Nobody is getting their ego boosted by someone just flirting as an "experiment". Why don't you go flirt with guys who are in a relationship in front of their girlfriend and see if she interprets your bullshit as just being friendly!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 07:47 PM
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It is very difficult for her to escape the situation since she can't just leave or be somewhere else and she is obligated to be nice and try not to cause a scene. If you must to ask someone out when they are in a work setting where they can't leave and you are a customer the best thing to do is wait until you are about to leave the store, give her your number tell her give you a text if she ever fancies going for a coffee after work and just immediately leave so that there is no expectation or p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 07:23 PM
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to be fair it is highly unlikely that was the first thing he said to her. that's the first thing that was *posted in the recording*, but I doubt she immediately recording every interaction with a customer from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 07:06 PM
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It would be even more cringe if it was a woman doing this since it would take an extreme amount of social maladaptation for a woman to pull off being this awkward towards a teenage boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 07:03 PM
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JFC that was painful to watch. If women have to deal with this constantly then I can see why some of them have such an issue with guys just approaching them. Like wtf is he even trying to achieve here... if *anyone* i try to start a convo with gives me one word answers 2-3 times in a row I assume they want to be left alone, try to at least end the conversation on a positive note and wish them a pleasant day and give them their space. Anyone saying that guy isn't awkward or creepy needs their hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 07:00 PM
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Most men are not expecting porn stars don't be stupid, also there are tons of body types in porn and everyone has some fetish that deviates significantly from the stereotypical plastic doll with huge implants.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 06:45 PM

A lot of it is scaremongering, but tbh *everyone* eventually fears getting old, but that fear does occur far sooner for women than men for multiple reasons. Womens beauty is heavily tied to age. Also the age range that women can have a children is obviously much smaller than men. Also one of the most important aspects of starting a family is financial and emotional stability, and these are things that most man lack in their 20s and improves significantly with age. ​ Men, on the other hand typica…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 06:04 PM
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I'm 5'10 and used to put my height as 6'0" on the apps, There is zero chance a woman who is like 5'4 can tell the difference, especially since so many ppl lie about their height. It's not a lie either. I'm pretty much 6'0 in shoes and i'll be wearing shoes on any date, so i'm 6'0.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 05:07 PM

Delusion, none of these things are happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 04:39 PM
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I never attributed fault to anyone. I simply stated that mens expectations and standards have also increased which is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 04:18 PM
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mostly good ramifications if you are ignoring silly tiktok complaints where a girl is mortified that a non chad would dare to come up to them to ask them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:58 PM
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Simple and to the point. Stop watching socially maladjusted attention seekers creating tiktoks for views. Most ppl aren't watching that shit and don't care. If you approach a woman and she is even mildly interested in you, they will reciprocate. If they don't just move on. If they consider you creepy, as long as you have basic social skills then the issue likely was that you weren't good looking enough and had nothing to do with what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:58 PM
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Everyone's expectations has changed because everyone now has access to more people on a global scale. It works both ways. Mens expectations and standards have also increased in terms of looks, which is why you see so many women with plastic surgery and have eating disorders compared to before The one area where this is true that modern womens expectations have become unrealistic is in terms of education/financial success. Women want men who are a lot more financially successful and at least as e…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:35 PM
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Women aren't getting their "panties in knot" over that criticism. They do not even care. The only people who get angry are men who were duped into thinking women weren't as shallow as men and therefore instead of focussing on attractiveness and money focussed on the bluepill nonsense instead then end up friendzoned everytime.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:22 PM
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5'10 140lbs is a healthy BMI and according to my doctor i'm perfectly fine, i guess so many people are obese now that just being a healthy weight is a "skeleton" also my post literally mentions that I was invisible and unattractive when I was 180lbs, both to myself and others and that changed dramatically when I lost 40lbs. How does me losing weight invalidate my claim that losing weight made me more attractive???
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:07 PM
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That is a perfectly healthy body weight for my height.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:09 AM

Been a long time since I read such nonsense. Here is a simple thought experiment. Imagine two groups of guys. Group1: Extremely good looking guys (models) with absolutely dog shit tier personalities Group2: Extremely ugly looking guys with amazing personalities, saves puppies, volunteers to feed the homeless blah blah. Everyone with even a partially functional braincell knows every member of group 1 will have ZERO problem attracting women and group2 will be straight up 100% incel. Saving puppies…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:09 AM
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Just world fallacy. Grown ass men trying to be nice guys to get women then getting pissed when they fail and point to all the "assholes" getting girlfriends are beyond sad but they exist I still see them out in the wild. ​ That said there is nothing wrong with caring about the fact that assholes have girlfriends, if nothing more than it is amusing to watch trainwrecks as they unfold.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 12:58 AM
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If it is something focussed on hobbies then that's fine. Of course by hobbies I mean actual hobbies. "Travelling" or "Look at me in this new outfit", doesn't count a hobby. "Gym" is also not a hobby especially when it is just a variation of "look at me in this outfit... while I do squats in front of a camera"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 12:13 AM
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No it's not. what are you smoking.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 12:05 AM

On their appearance? No Never. No need to inflate already inflated egos. For actual achievements? Sure if it is something I find impressive and not just because they are a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 11:59 PM
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Being naturally slim can be easy in 20s but at some point you do have to start putting in the effort because it gets more and more difficult. I literally thought it was impossible for me to put on weight until my mid 20s an I legit had to force feed myself to stop being chronically underweight (as a male I was 5' 10 110lbs). Then as I approached 30 and that changed real fast, I no longer could just stuff myself with fast food everyday and maintain my weight and within just a few years the weight…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 09:57 PM
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It's hard to quantify as lots changed, not just my bf%. However prior to all those things and prior to gaining weight when I was a rail thin kid at university I did sometimes get approached by girls (not often at all by the way, I'm no chad, but still the average guy gets approached literally zero times so probably above average.) ​ When I gained weight I was absolutely invisible. Completely invisible. But yeah ultimately as long as you have a certain level of social skills, and are at least ave…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 09:50 PM
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This. I did a similar transformation, the motivation was insecurity, but sometimes what it really takes for people to improve themselves is a unwillingness to be stuck in the situation they currently are. Fighting against it is a losing battle. Complaining about it is also a losing battle. If you're attractive life becomes much easier. Many insecurities disappear, and sure a few new ones pop up but as you said, it is so much easier to be attractive and insecure, than unattractive and insecure. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:13 PM
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100% this. If you're not under 15% bodyfat as a guy then 100% of your effort should be put towards fixing this. Because I play sports a lot of my social circle contains ppl who do the same. Some of us like myself only started playing sports in their 30s. Many of our peers who don't do sports were far more active in their 20s and slowed down significantly in their 30s and now live more sedentary lives with non-existent self care routines. The difference is quite extreme. Pictures of them in their…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:02 PM
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Risk of being mocked!? That's what you think the risk is? I'll try and be brief with this but it probably won't be brief, but I think women just can never understand this as it is something that fundamentally requires you to live your life as a guy to understand. (i'm assuming you're a woman because I suspect most men in this reddit wouldn't make the mistake of thinking the "risk" involved here was merely being mocked.) If the risk was simply short term consequences of being mocked and the relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 05:28 PM
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it's not impossible to date a super rich celebrity either. Also every women will act like it is safe to share their feelings with them, so unless the guy is the mind reader how will they know until it is too late. Men do it a few times, realise it is pointless and leads to negative consequences and stop. But again you seem to be missing the point that there is very little benefit for a man to share his deepest feelings/problems with a woman. It would be great to find a safe person that you can s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:01 AM
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rougher positions? Yes every woman who isn't an obese american is in a "rough position" Every country with slim women, the women live in poverty in caves! Only fat women in america aren't in rough positions. (maybe that's why they are fat?) Lol. Also who cares if you don't want to date them btw? you can't date every guy who doesn't want an obese partner so why does this even matter!?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:22 PM
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This is like asking "Why would you choose to be with someone who isn't a super rich celebrity or supermodel?"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:13 PM
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There is pretty much ZERO benefit to a man "opening up" in a relationship. Women generally don't care about men's problems and even if they did, they often won't be much help. Also *any* vulnerability you show will be used against you when the relationship starts to go sour. I open up in relationship, but with very minor things that can't be weaponised and just enough to make the woman feel like she can care about my "problems", but I'm obviously never mentioning any serious problems I might be …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:08 PM
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Or find a woman in country where the average woman isn't obese. Absolutely wild to me that OP is trying to claim non-obese childless women are above average. above average for passing the absolute lowest of bars!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:03 PM
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I think the point is the advice people give IRL for relationships is much closer to red pill advice then blue pill, which makes sense because well, men following blue pill advice pretty much never ends well, it's mostly of zero utility to men. No one is saying that these ppl are running around yelling that they are red pilled/blue pilled. Most of my friends aren't terminally online and have no idea what red pill blue pill even means and the only social media they use is instagram and facebook fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 01:26 AM
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chad barrett spitting the stone cold facts here. No lies detected.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 08:41 PM
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In all my years, none of my friends have ever asked each other, how old any of our partners were, and I've never asked or cared how old their partners were. This is likely only a thing socially maladjusted ppl do (ie terminally online folk), as it comes off as pretty creepy imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:04 AM
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are people seriously out here deciding whether or not to enter perfectly legal relationships based on "optics" as perceived by randoms on the internet? wth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 12:41 AM
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you will only date women who are between 160-162.5cm? Is this a joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 10:19 PM
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no one made that argument though, so who exactly are you arguing with?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 01:15 PM
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i think you are ascribing malice to something unnecessarily.. Most don't care, and those that do, if they give bad advise it isn't on purpose, it is because most women aren't equipped to give men good dating advice and most likely just don't know they are giving bad advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 12:37 AM
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And then they actually start an instagram account and feel inadequate comparing their lives to that of actual "instagram baddies" who are always travelling to exotic locations in expensive hotels buying expensive designer clothes. Anyone who thinks they are an instagram baddie can just go open an instagram account and see if they get any where near the attention. Spoiler alert: They will get grounded back to reality extremely fast. If for no other reason than most of the lives you see on instagr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:20 PM
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Being bluepilled getting treated like trash in relationships and being cheated on and taken for granted for far too long. I was doing all the things women said they wanted and all it resulted in was just tons of misery and me being walked all over. I'm the type who has never cheated on a partner and never will, but seems if you let your partner know that and feel too comfortable in that knowledge then it's just an open invitation to get cheated on and used. Then it clicked, hey, maybe I should s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:57 PM
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most ppl don't even workout in their 20s. My physique in my 30s is far better than it was in my 20s simply because I started playing sports in my 30s. Didn't have to take steroids for this wtf...lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:50 PM
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Don't know if he gets along well with them he never really mentioned that. But if he's into that then fair enough i guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 11:30 AM
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true that was a bit bizarre to be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:37 AM
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well sure but for someone who never attracted anyone at all, it's kinda of a case of well, let him enjoy his new found success. He'll soon figure out why it is a waste of time dating an 18 year old as someone who is ~30 once he starts engaging in conversation with them. Just the banal conversations alone and the 24/7 mobile phone usage would turn my brain to mush. It would be like dating a child because it almost literally is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:28 AM
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It's not unrealistic, you don't have to be a social butterfly to have a big social circle. It just takes effort as does everything else. Find things you enjoy and try to tie them to hobbies that are social. Try out lots of new things.. If you have friends who aren't social, be the social driver yourself and organise simple meet ups. Encourage those friends to join you and do social activities with other people as a group, take up new hobbies as a group. Dance, cooking, sports etc. Learn about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:24 AM
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sadly not everyone was a genius like you who was right about everything from age 12!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:12 AM

Just move on. Sounds like you invested far too much of yourself upfront. During the 5 weeks did you at least go on other dates (or pursue other dates)? I suspect not? If she pretends not to see you, just do the same. Don't dwell on this or waste time over analysing it. Also no need to write a whole paragraph in response to the rejection. Just say "ok, all the best!" and leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:05 AM
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It's a conversation for the very ppl who were probably like OP in their 20s? That's why it is confusing ppl are claiming OP is lying. He is more competitive than he was before and that's all that matters ultimately and is easily believable as tons of guys in their early 20s do not have their shit together AT ALL and it takes them a while to fix that. Yes dating is a competition. A person who is rich is preferable to someone who is poor, doesn't mean you have be immediately negative to someone wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:53 AM
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There is no way that you are preferable to a 20 year old man if the person you’re talking to is a normal 20 year old woman. That's not what he claimed though, you just made that up. He said in his 30s he is more attractive to 18-24 year olds than when *he was 18-24*. That's a very different point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:27 AM

What are you even talking about. How is blocking someone announcing anything!? They are blocking the person and moving on with their life. If someone doesn't respect you enough that they take weeks to respond to you then there is no use for such a person in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 04:27 PM

I think it is more that maybe some men just look 10 years older than they really are. They stop paying attention to their diet, their fitness etc. All this talk about men in their 30s and 40s being balding, fat and wrinkled seems a bit exaggerated. If you're going bald just shave it and rock a fashion and body type that will complement it. While I worked hard to improve myself, that was because in my 20s I was way behind the curve for most men so I had to work harder to catch up. Most men figure…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:38 PM

If you didn’t know how to get women when you were younger, better looking and with more virility, what makes you think you’re magically gonna get better after your 30s when you look fatter and barely have any experience with women??? Look fatter? Why would someone just look fatter if they are 10 years older? Almost all men I know look an carry themselves better in their 30s/40s than they did in their 20s. People have wrinkles in their 30s? I guess if the person fails to take care of their skin!?…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 01:10 PM
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i've never in my entire life heard any guy ever say that's why they like MILFS wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 12:44 PM
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