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Interesting that you're a woman. As others said, it's pretty easy to reach 25 and still be a virgin as a man. I know a good number of men in their late 20s who would fit this. Reasons are pretty standard: in every social circle evenly split between men and women, in case any date happens, it usually involves the same one/two top men of the group, and the others get none. Their personalities are relatively nornal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:23 PM
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You were warned
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 10:12 PM
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Bro are you trying to stop their ego trip? That's the only way some people feel relevant lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 09:13 PM
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I think that qualifies more as black pill than blue pill. Although I believe you're not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 11:56 PM
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Have you ever been to one? Personally I'm so introverted that I'd not fit in nor live up to the partner's expectations for that event, not my cup of cake. If y’all say all you need is a chance to show your personality how does an in person option not make sense? Because first impressions (including on personality) are still heavily influenced by look. You probably have already ran into this but I'll throw it here anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:11 PM
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Shocker
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 07:51 PM
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Because these events aren't going to be any different. Top men monopolize all the attention and everyone else gets nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 07:42 PM
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but guys don’t follow football? Kind of 50/50ish. I'd say I know an equal amount of men and women who watch football. A female friend of mine even goes to the extent of saying that if a guy doesn't follow football and support the team she does, she won't date him. AT? Passport bros? Honestly have yet to meet one in real life. That's appealing to a minority of men anyway so does it qualify as a trend or a niche? Gym memberships Most of the people don't go to the gym as well. It's male dominated b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:58 PM
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The thing is, she didn’t actually say that, you’ve changed her comment, and it’s literally the only one that isn’t “professional” sounding I'm on mobile and typed it off the top of my head. Just checked it again and it's a word of difference but the semantic distance is literally zero. Deny the post is anything other than an attack on woman The dude is conveying some truth. Women are far more likely to follow trends than men. A good amount of brands target almost only female audience for a reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:39 PM
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As I said I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about people in the top comments of this thread who you said they disagreed with OP's take. My point is, they're disagreeing so aggressively that it makes it look like they felt called out or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:26 PM
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It's not aggressive to disagree. It's aggressive to resort to personal attacks while disagreeing. Just to pick one: you're cherry picking you sad fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:23 PM
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I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about the aggressive comments at the top. Also that's anecdotical but about 50% of the women I know in real life, at one time when mobile internet subscriptions offered like 10GB/month, drained it within the first week from their renewal. And even my aunt who's mid 50s browses it everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:18 PM
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The very fact that my comment is one of the top comments in this post, strongly suggests a lot of people agree with me The top comments of this post feel like replies of people who felt called out. I wouldn't be surprised at all if seconds before typing it they were browsing Instagram from their iPhones.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:12 PM
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You more likely interacted with incels who also subscribe to the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:01 AM
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I don't identify red pill with disrespecting anyone, more like it identifies what truly matters in attraction/dating, beyond what people say it matters (that often doesn't match, be it due to bad self-awareness or virtue signaling). Men who subscribe to the red pill often come from heterogeneous backgrounds and I'm sure some of them are disrespectful, but that's not a TRP tenet as far as I'm aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:56 AM
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It's different since dating is a typically small subset of the interactions you have with the opposite sex. I don't mind friendship at all and I have and had good female friends. (Whose dating habits are typically dark red pill, as in looks in facts outweights status and money).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:38 AM
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Escaping the red pill. I don't feel like I have to run away from western women at all since my experience is mostly positive. Still, TRP is accurate at describing their choices, that's what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:33 AM
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OP was wondering whether or not TRP still applied in Western Europe. I didn't mention anything about myself at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:18 PM
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Italian here. You can very well identify the same patterns here. You won't escape it simply moving to Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 12:23 AM
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Double down on your take, I don't know any girl who doesn't have height requirements in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 05:58 PM
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ain’t that hard. How ugly and/or undesirable are you to confidently say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:25 AM
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Not his weight If one is fat he'd better lose weight, but most of the people I know who struggle aren't fat. not his career His career doesn't increase sexual attraction. At most he becomes more useful and therefore tolerable. not his hairline Tell them to those who lost their hair by age 22. I know an handful just off the top of my head. nothing There's only so much that you can afford in terms of flaws (that fall outside of your control) before compensating for it becomes impossible for any or…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 10:03 PM
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That's the one. Look no further. I know this 5"3' balding fat indian janitor who was a virgin at 40. Well, guess what sweetheart, he didn't just sit there moaning and crying about women standards. He pulled his fat ass and hustled and now he's a 6"4' white blonde Chad who gets girls with his mindblowing personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 08:03 PM
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That's likely because those requirements also subtext to be at least x handsome, y tall, earn at least z, and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:38 PM
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all they say they wanted was a guy that has a job, and wasn’t an arsehole
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:25 PM
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I swear it doesn't even matter how good they look, even those who are very far from conventional beauty have phones that are hot like toasters from all the messages they get. If they do so, it's because they can afford it independently of their "smv".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 11:45 PM
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I would rather say that women in my family and close friendships talk bluepill and act very blackpill. They're not after guys/men who have an insane game or high paying jobs or whatever. You'd just better be tall and handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 09:00 AM
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The men dont care. They have access to almost any woman they want. Nice troll bro
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 03:40 PM
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That's because standards are stricter than they've ever been. Dudes who are now in their late 30s and above dated in a completely different planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 09:33 PM
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Not only that. Italy is just about the Champions League of dating. I heard of an Italian dude who was a virgin at 30, moved to USA and he had so many options that he had to turn them down, and got married to an hostess.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:42 PM
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I have a (woman) acquaitance who calls everyone and their mom an uggo, unless they're top tier model.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 11:25 AM
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This is it. If I wanna believe that water is dry cause that makes me happy, as soon as I dive I'll still get wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:51 AM
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I had like three girls come say hi during my university days but it didn't go much further than that, except from one who became part of our group. Nice girl but I confirm what you just said about preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:32 AM
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Appreciated the good vibes. I'd say I feel neutral about it so it's all good, hope you're doing fine as well!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:14 PM
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Correct. I didn't make time during development years to be around girls. I'm in STEM, and across high school and university, the number of girl students has been dramatically low. Some studies link an higher IQ to a lower risk propension and therefore lower reproductive success. Doesn't help that I'm not conventionally attractive I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:58 PM
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It's not like it affects my daily life in any significant way so I just don't think about it. If I have to, I guess I could've done better in the past, I lost a chance cause I felt too bad about myself and I thought to myself that her friends would've mocked her because of me so I bailed out. But then again nobody but me and her know about it, my parents, brother, close friends, all have no idea that it ever happened. Conversely, I performed extremely well in university and school, probably scor…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:49 PM
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They don't ask, I guess they gave up long ago and that's for the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:37 PM
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I mean there are posts like this with 1.8 million likes and women here are still saying platitudes like it's your personality bro just be confident bro. Turns out it's not just men who do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:14 AM
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I’ve commented to another user just a few mins ago about making every citizen submitting blood for analysis against crimes to identify criminals I never mentioned coercively getting paternity tests, that's an obvious violation of civil rights and it's not even debatable. We're talking about voluntary test, which is perfectly legit. It’s not worth it being in a relationship without trust. I agree but if she lost faith I'm down to gain it back.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:08 PM
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Cults earn trust all the time even though they're not actually trustworthy. Kinda off-topic but in my personal experience those who yell "I don't have to prove anything" defensively tend to be those who are more likely to fail the test.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:49 PM
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Faith is not nuanced at all, it's binary. Attractiveness is somewhat nuanced even though it's consistent and predictable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:40 PM
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Women would probably say a man not feeling desired once he learns he’s not her best / the hottest guy she’s been with an overreaction. That can be more nuanced. There's no measurable way to tell by what extent you were not her best. But if that was the case, nobody would take offense at not being her best by little. Though, if it was a wide gap, I'd ghost, cause that's a certified way to have a miserable life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:35 PM
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Probably for some of them Doubtful for all of them. Those who didn't trust apparently had a good reason for it. Doesn’t negate the feeling of being accused of infidelity if you have been faithful Seems like an overreaction. I would gladly take a polygraph test if asked to prove that I'm faithful. Under the condition that it's the last time I hear it, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 08:23 PM
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I guess all of those who (unconsciously) financially supported kids of others, trusted their wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:34 PM
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The result will be AI robots who are repulsed by unattractive men. Unattractiveness is mediated by biological drives that don't belong to a machine. A machine, for example, would not find a short man repulsive, since it'd carry 0 disadvantages, once you take genes out of the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:45 PM
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An AI with true human level consciousness would likely be just as much not attracted to unattractive people as actual humans already are. In that case it wouldn't even make its way to the market. Who would fund an AI partner that caters to attractive people? Also AIs don't have a biological drive since it doesn't reproduce, so, some of the things that make people unattractive would be out of the equation. However, for it to have true human level consciousness, that AI would also need to be able …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:41 PM
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I very highly doubt that most of those who have high standards have this specific background. I'm more driven to think they have a very high sense of self-worth (be it genuine or based on delusion).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:12 AM
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Whether or not it's high depends on two factors: What chunk of male population does it cut off? 99.9%? Then it qualifies as high. 25%? Not as much. Do you measure up to these standards? I might think I deserve a Lamborghini Huracán STO and refuse to drive if I don't get it; what matters is: how rich am I?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:24 PM
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An ugly but likable man is a friend. That's what reality says.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:51 AM
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So do you think it's just an unfortunate occurrence that most incels aren't good looking and shorter than the general population? Or is it their ""personality""? Bro get serious lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:29 AM
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(A) Is male loneliness, as an issue, is actually not solvable via partnership with women. You're not less lonely because you're in a relationship with any girl. Sure, it may act as a palliative cure that works for 6 months max, but then it fades. Even in a relationship you're expected to be strong, confident, assertive, never flinch, that is, wear the same every-day facade. But instead a male issue that exist without taking women into account? Women are roughly 50% of the world population, so it…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:46 PM
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"Gay men are flat chested as fuck, but still get men. Therefore if you're flat you don't really have any disadvantage, it's all in your mind".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:54 AM
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Looks like higher IQ negatively correlates with riproductive success (source). Also men with higher IQ are less risk oriented and this could play a role as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 12:34 AM
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Libra, I congratulate you. At last peace reigns in the heart of man. At last war is but a word whose meaning fades from our understanding. At last, we are whole. Librians, there is a disease in the heart of man. Its symptom is hate. Its symptom is anger. Its symptom is rage. Its symptom is war. The disease is human emotion. But Libria, I congratulate you, for there is a cure for this disease. At the cost of the dizzying highs of human emotion, we have suppressed its abysmal lows. And you, as a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:01 PM
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My ID card says I'm 1.71cm so probably 1.72cm between shoes and tuft, which is between 5'7'' and 5'8'', although I sospect it to be pretty generous and more realistically it's 1.69cm (5'6''). Though, a girl friend of mine insists (even though I let her measure me with a measure tape) that I must be at most 160cm (5'3''). Small sampled size but I'm wondering how accurate your perception of what 5'7'' is?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 04:14 PM
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Very hard disagree. Insecure women get relationships all the time. On the other hand, insecure men aren't almost at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:59 PM
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Yeah sure, explain why being a douchebag is effective if that's not what you want. "Victim" just lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 08:43 PM
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Uhm yes. If women were attracted to calm, nice men, way more of them would be like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 05:10 PM
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Here's an interesting idea: stop giving your female friend all the benefits of a boyfriend (except sex) unless you're her boyfriend. Problem solved I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 01:40 PM
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Most ot the female population isn't. According to Statista you're part of a 5% of the US population that identifies as bi (source), which aggregates bisexuals of both genders. Say men are less likely to be bisexuals for the sake of the argument, and 75% of that 5% is female population. That makes it 3.75% of the overall population. A sexual strategy that caters to 3.75% of the overall population isn't going to make your dating life any easier. If anything, way harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 08:32 AM
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And by feminine consciousness I mean deep emotions, empathy, intuition, etc. Those who do suffer a terrible fate in dating. Don't you realize that you're hardwired to find masculine traits attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 08:04 AM
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Based on any shy or introverted person I’ve ever met Well my social circle is made of people who are pretty shy (I put myself in there, too). I computed the average time between two dates in the group to be 11.5 years, alternating homebody times to times when we were away from home 24/7. make no effort and feel sorry for yourself, you’re obviously not going to meet anyone. That’s on you- but it’s easier to blame it on a loneliness epidemic haha Just world hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:59 PM
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it’s not difficult whatsoever. Even if you’re shy or introverted, it’s not impossible Based on what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:15 PM
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Id wager black pillers identified as such don't have many options because they learned the hard way how important looks are. I love that. When a bluepill girl says she falls for personality, it'd be funny to ask her how attractive (purely by looks) she supposes blackpilled men are. If she says they're likely not attractive, they contraddict the bluepilled rethorics that personality gets you girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:59 PM
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Since both blue and red are optimistic pills, we conclude that if you are pessimistic you are 2x more likely to be a virgin if you are black pilled. Inversion of responsibility: virgin predicts pessimistic and not pessimistic predicts virgin. If one gets pussy thrown at them with moderate/little effort, what reason do they have to be pessimistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:53 PM
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How do you know any of this? Can you read minds? Observations. As weak as it may seem, you don't need more than that. We still haven't found the source of gravity and we don't know why it behaves the way it does, though based on a description of how it behaves, we could land on the moon, sent space probes at the bounds and we're not done yet. How can you ever think you're coming up with anything approximating science from pure feelings and guesswork? I'm not calling it a science, I'm claiming th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:40 PM
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you're not even using this Of course I'm not training a machine learning model to determine whether or not a guy is conventionally attractive, the same way you don't need a computer to tell you whether or not you're attractive to the majority of men, you just know that alreay. if attraction was binary, clear cut and the same for everyone This generalizes well to a more general discrete case with multinomial prior and Dirichlet conjugate. It doesn't generalize as well to a continuous case but who…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:11 PM
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I guess that depending Vietnamese culture (that I'm not familiar with) she might be less likely to cheat anyway because in her culture it's seen as unacceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 11:22 AM
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Google says the average height for a man in Vietnam is 5ft 4, so that's a maybe. In this sub though I read a girl comparing any male of that height or lower to a very facially disfigured woman in terms of attractiveness so yikes for him!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 11:07 AM
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I'm not trying to claim that judgements are scientific, I'm saying that observing trends and acting on it is effective. I'll give you an example: AI is deeply rooted in statistics, and historically one of the most impacting discoveries was an algorithm called Bayes classifier. It's a binary classification algorithm, meaning it's role is to part a set into two classes. For example it could be that you're feeding Bayes classifier with images and want to known whether the image is a tiger or a cat …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:50 AM
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Yet sciences based on trends exist and have been effective for centuries.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:50 AM
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You realise that the taste of others might differ from what you think is attractive in a man I don't find men attractive, it's more like that I became skilled at identifying patterns that are more selected. Like, if you gave me an unsorted list of men of any attractiveness, I'd confidently sort by attractiveness according to an average girl. Your ex even proves that. It may prove that some girls actually don't make a big deal about looks, depending on how one wants to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 10:51 PM
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I had a relationship that lasted 7 years and it just happened. I was bold and didn't know any better, I just told her that I wanted her and we somewhat skipped dating. About other crushes I had, I became increasingly aware of what is considered to be attractive in a man and recognized that I don't fit that at all so what gives, better leave the poor girl alone and save her the embarassment to have to reject someone without hurting feelings. EDIT: I meant 0 lifetime, not just last 12 months. If i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 10:01 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 09:36 PM
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You want to give up, do it, literally no one cares. here's a cute little article that pops up if you look up "ugly men glow ups" that might give you some hope https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9248863/Self-confessed-ugly-ducklings-reveal-mind-blowing-transformations.html I opened your article. Those guys were only unattractive because they were fat and losing weight changed it. Under their fat they had good features, if they didn't they'd still look bad. So if you're unattractive becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:21 PM
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I tried replying to your comment under mine but it got deleted so I paste here. There are many things men can do to increase their social value and they choose not to because they clearly just dont care/are not motivated enough to go through with it That's simply because it's ineffective. Men are motivated to "get girls" and it couldn't be otherwise, since that guarantees the basic survival of the mankind. Looking from outside is kind of like observing an homeless man from the perspective of a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:36 PM
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This clip was for women but this applies to guys too I might be very well convinced that water is very dry. Though, if I took a dive in the ocean, I would still get very wet. Point being, life kicks you back to your place regardless of what your self-percepiton is. A close friend of mine says he likes himself when he looks in the mirror, says he's handsome and so on, but he's a virgin at 27. Regardless, it's not the norm to be a virgin beyond age 18, so they're not amongst the average by default…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 02:58 PM
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That's a terribile take, here's why. Those who enforce said high standards are those that this sub likes to call "Chad", who are likely handsome with 0 effort or close, out of genetic luck. The average man doesn't want the next Pamela Anderson with DD cup breast, with a pornstar makeup nor anything like that. Standards women enforce are entirely based on immutable traits. If most say they want a 6ft+ tall partner, what should I say? Damn you're right of course I should've put more effort to grow…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 11:50 AM
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I'd say no, they're not the kind of people who long for attention and besides that, being a virgin carries a severe social stigma for a man, so why would they?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:40 PM
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I've known each other since forever and I'd know if they got a girl's attention before they themselves. Simply they can't shut up about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:35 PM
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Sounds like insecurity. Guys who want to stay insecure because they weren’t Chad when they were in their 20s can continue to be miserable It's not insecurity if it is solidly rooted in reality, otherwise one could arbitrarily split any abstract struggle between "insecurity" and "harsh truth" based on whatever criteria fits their narrative the most. They're part of the 15% of men I'd say they don't fit the bottom 15% of men by personality (and neither by looks in my opinion), and when they get at…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 03:12 PM
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It's more like a thing like this: quite surprisingly you'd say that dogs have 4 legs, but on average they have 3.96. Though, most go through their entire lives without ever seeing a dog with three legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:54 PM
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It doesn’t even matter if a woman doesn’t pick a good looking rich, tall guy, because she’ll be accused of beta bus on this subreddit. It makes sense. There occasionally are women who don't care much but statistically if I was undesirable throughout all my 20s and suddently when I'm older and graduated from college I start getting more attention (without losing what makes you unappealing cause it's most likely something immutable), something doesn't add up. It is a FACT that most men have sex an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:43 PM
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Exactly, I was adding that as a side note to my original comment but I eventually deleted cause I guess it's obvious. Still, in a group of men with similar personalities only the conventionally attractive ones get action. The others may get some occasionally but it's few and years in between. That's my life long experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:37 AM
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I'd say it's the other way around: most young girls I've known are ostentatiously bluepilled (facade) but dark black pilled in facts. Typical example being: I fall for personality, not looks. It just so happens that my current bf is very good looking/rich/6ft tall (pick at least one) but I 100% fell for their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:32 AM
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I'd not call them "stupid", just consistently and predictably their own worst enemy. Let me tell you one: this guy I was mentioning above is pretty rich, but some of these girls were paying him dinner out while they were unemployed themselves. Then complain, then do it again lol. I deal with them cause we grew together and I care about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:46 PM
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You'd be surprised at the olympic mental gym some of them perform. I've seen it with my raw eyes in my social circle, three girls calling names on this guy, and then drooling for him (on repeat for years on end by now). So I conclude they must like it to some extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:15 PM
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I guess if you get to the point of feeling the need to vent as a man, it's already pretty bad, at least unsolvable by your own means. Otherwise me and most of the men I know would keep it for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 04:56 PM
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Annoying double standard but lesson learned, I'd rather bleed in front of a piranha than show any kind of struggle/vulnerability/weakness with any woman nearby.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 04:53 PM
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a below average man should be able to match with a below average woman. Don't know where people get this idea that below average girls are attracted to below average guys. They can go on any dating app and get a better looking one anytime. Also in my experience those who look worse are the pickier of them all. I reduced it to one of two possible explainations: Validation: accepting a below average looking guy who doesn't make her girl friends' jaws drop would be like admitting she's low value to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 04:23 PM
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It is. That’s why theyre viciously mocked online and we have subs like r/FatLogic Genetic can predispose you to gain fat even though I'd guess it's kinda rare. You can improve your weight with diet and gym, but your looks, not so much. How social are you? Currently I'd say not at all, the only person I'm seeing consistently (every day for hours) is the friend I mentioned above. I've been through periods of higher "sociability" during university, as in I was away from home just about all the day …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:28 PM
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Fat activists say the same thing. Don't know what to get from this, it's not wrong, though fat people should lose weight not to look better, but to be healthier. Be likable to be around. That's totally anecdotical experience, but I had a girl friend wait for me for over three hours around town (without her telling me anything about that) when I was away just to spend the night together. I don't think my female friends find me unlikable to be around. Though this brings significative friendships, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 08:56 PM
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Self improvement needs a strong genetic basis, maybe if you're fat it's a good idea. Otherwise, what does "self improvement " do to a bald guy, a short one or why not both? If you're born ugly, you're sentenced to an existence in a jail of ugliness basically no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 08:38 PM
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The question is what makes you consider a man as sexually attracted as well, when one asks what do you look for in a partner. You don't need to answer but if you choose to, who asks probably expects you to include what's (sexually) attractive to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:40 PM
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I'd say if they ask you what you look for and you accept to answer, you're supposed to include what you're sexually attracted to. If you answer "personality" that's most likely not false, but severely incomplete.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:35 PM
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That's entirely a semantics problem. A rose, by any other name, would smell as sweet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:35 PM
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That's why I used the median instead of the average. The median is the 50th percentile: this means 50% of the 25-29 years old US population has a BMI less than or equal to 26.4. The average is skewed by outliers, the median isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:21 PM
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According to the WHO the upper bound for healthy BMI is 24.9, and the minimum threshold for obesity is 30 BMI. 26.5 is closer to the former, and when an average man says fat he means FAT, not just a little overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:10 PM
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According to this tool the median BMI in age range 25-29 is 26.4 which will not make an otherwise attractive girl unattractive unless you only keep in mind the top x% of men who already have all the action and can afford to be extra picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:59 AM
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When was the last time you asked a man what he would like in a partner and he answered that he falls for personality, not looks? That's the default answer you get from any girl, even those who scream "ewww he's ugly!" when some men get in touch with them on socials.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 08:17 AM
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Godspeed for your quest
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:22 PM
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To each their own I guess, though with this mindset you're (as a group) creating an unprecedented level of entitlement like with the girl above. Like, if you do this for her, I'm under the impression she wouldn't even thank you, thinking you owe it to her lol. Also good luck these days about getting emotional support from a girl. Girls and women want strong men who are the emotional rock of the relationship. Don't wanna ruin it for you and hope you'll find the exception, but we're here to learn …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:16 PM
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Do you even believe (by what distortion of reality though?) that a man will happily spend every day of his life working half of his working time only to provide for you, just because you gave birth? The delusion these days lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 12:47 PM
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Here's a truth you have to deal with: you have absolutely zero consideration of your partner's happiness, all you care about is being a princess and having a slave that treats you as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 12:17 PM
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Women who don't want children aren't more willing to accept 50/50 "deals". 9 months of pregnancy + 6 months of breastfeeding don't make you entitled to a lifetime of being a financial dead weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:11 AM
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You don't have to believe anything, just repeat the experiment yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:30 PM
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There was literally a subreddit about attractive dudes getting away with everything, even child r***, being a terrorist, a nazi and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 03:08 PM
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Good. I’m glad if the dude subscribes to this shit. Women should stay the fuck away from men/boys who regard them in such a poor light This, though, has been proven to be wrong countless times as long as the guy is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 02:41 PM
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Disagreed. Being average is not enough to get attention as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:14 AM
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Most of the time you're rejected way before you have a chance to show your value, whatever it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 09:21 PM
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You don't get to choose your own "value" though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 08:17 PM
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I don't complain, I'm personally asexual and couldn't care less about hooking up. Still even if I wasn't like this and wanted to hookup, there's realistically nothing I could do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 04:30 PM
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If one doesn't hookup he still pays the price for all the other men who throw themselves at every breathing girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 04:20 PM
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Absolutely, but there's nothing a man can do to stop himself from suffering the choices of other men. It doesn't matter if the man wants to hookup or not, the abundance of other men who will makes him easily replaceable and his attentions cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 04:19 PM
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I'd say it's irrelevant. If he could control the sexual strategy of all the men in his country this would have a chance to work. Since thousands of other men would keep doing it, him stopping to act like this will have zero impact on his accomplishments.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 04:10 PM
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Looks aren't measurable and this alone should make you question your statement. About socioeconomic status I don't get how that's relevant to (at least male) attraction and I guess it's kind of plausible by proximity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 08:02 AM
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That's blatantly false. Women who aren't conventionally attractive in my experience are much pickier. It feels like for them, accepting a non conventionally attractive boyfriend would nuke their self-esteem. Like I knew an overweight girl who would call everyone except male models "uggos".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 03:03 PM
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They kind of do. Those friends in my friend group are a random sample taken from the population of my area. If you actually listened to what girls say they want, they should be forced to walk around town under armed escort to keep their suitors away. Though, most are chronically single.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 08:09 AM
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I didn't pick a thread as an evidence, just as an exhibit. I can confirm through my old ass' experience that my in real life friends get absolutely punished for not being masculine. You could group them in two classes in that sense. Most aren't "masculine". They get no attention at all or if they do, it's years apart (I computed an average time between two chances of getting action as 11.5 years, for them). Few of them instead are more "masculine" both in looks and personality and the time they'…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 07:51 AM
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It is relevant. You said that girls who are average/plain get no attention, but this is proven to be false. Even obese women (and I'm not even talking about curvy models) get attention from men of any attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 07:15 AM
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I'd be cherry picking very badly if I stated the opposite of what I did. In fact, except the first two top comments and some girls claiming that the comments section makes them so sad, those who had a positive experience being non traditionally mascunline are few and far in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 07:03 AM
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Are you telling me that almost 800 dudes who don't know each other independently flocked to the same reddit post sharing similar experiences just to validate my statement, or is it more likely that it happened? Also most of my male friends who comply to be vulnerable or less traditionally masculine in general, around girls are still virgins and approaching their 30s. And they're salty that "girls only want bad boys".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 10:55 PM
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He's totally right. Men get punished for distancing themselves from their traditional gender roles, both by other men and women. Men listen to facts, not words. Have a good read here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 10:37 PM
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Chad vs obese experiments already tear apart your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:27 AM
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