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Question For MenLogical-Confection-7/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:21 PM
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I agree to some extent, but the first three items are not what a biological clock means. It has to do with fertility rates of the individual, not lack of possibilities to find a person that is fertile. If anything, that would be a social clock or attractiveness clock.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:12 PM
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It varies, but I know less broke guys who are good with women than ugly guys that are good with women. There is not a bare minimum. But I would guess being a 4-6 in looks and a six did hire job for men would be the beginning of experiencing day to day chances with women. For women, I think being 6-8 in looks. People overestimate how much attention plain looking women get. This girls can be considerable amount of time without being approached compared to a woman that gets approached more consiste…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:47 PM
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Five year older? Many are just as broke ata that age. Please, women are not going for five year older men be she they aren’t broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:52 PM
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In general when she likes you, she is going to enjoy, although, of course specifics need to be discussed with each individual. The hard part is getting women attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:01 PM
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Being on the ground would be like, all man are acceptable as long as they smile. The more you add on top of that, it obviously is going to be harder and harder, and in top of that you set measures that depends on competing with other men like income or position, that is not on the ground. That doesn’t mean that what women expect is not healthy, but is not minimal as these are various things that all people (yes, including women) are usually working to better about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 01:38 PM
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But how does the “the bar is on the ground for men” captured this reality? Clearly what it is implying is that women are ok with men doing low effort things, but reality is, women are not ok with men doing low level effort in relationships. It would make more sense to say “men should do more for their partners”. Which again, it would be case by case. Financially, I don’t think men are doing more than women, if anything, women are lacking there. Emotionally, yes, men are always trailing behind an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 11:56 AM
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This is a good point, but then the bar is on the ground for everybody, not just men. No real reason to say is on the ground specifically for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 11:53 AM
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So, then you are proving OPs point; the bar is not on the ground for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 11:50 AM
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But why is so rare? And why is not rarer for the people that care more about looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:35 PM
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Well I saw another study done with women in Italy and the same thing was true. Plus, then why men and gay men don’t see more people as ugly if superficial people tend to look more people as ugly? It seems if women on dating apps rate men lower because they are more superficial, men should rate women uglier all together, but that doesn’t happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:33 PM
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Maybe yes. Plus I’ve seen it mostly online. Although, You do know men rate very low men in apps and studies? Like they rate them low physically speaking. I think that is also weird cause no other group does it so bad about their preferred gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:26 PM
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Hmmmm a little bit. Cause literally many say most men are word for word ugly and tend to rate their physique very low. No other group rates their preferred gender so low physically speaking. Nor I have never heard a gay man saying most men are ugly, or lesbian saying most women are ugly, or straight men saying that. Maybe a few. But I have heard many women saying such things. That men are literally ugly by and large. If the thing was that women tend to think most men are supper good looking, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:21 PM
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Well, many women say it all the time. That they think most men are ugly, and that, is the fact that they aren’t superficial what keeps straight world running.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:10 PM
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Ok. But then why you think women think we are ugly? I don’t see a reason for that. Straight women is the only group that think their preferred gender is ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:04 PM
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But why this doesn’t happens with men? Men care about looks and yet are attracted to more women, genuinely, where’s women only see few men physically attractive. Couldn’t it be that they just see few men attractive not be she few men are not ugly, but be she women care less about looks, and so only outliers produce that effect? My idea is that if women cared more about looks, they would see most men are good looking, like we see most women look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:56 PM
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More or less. But also, is not about sex. For example, let’s say change what I saying I would like to change about women but not their sex drive, I would be having probably similar amounts of sex, but there would a difference, women would be showing so much more romantic attention. They would be flirting more, more willing to hold your attention, to look at you. More than sex, I think my idea is that I would prompt better appreciation of men as a sex. We would stop being the ugly undesirable gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:52 PM
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😄😄😄
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:45 PM
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I feel the same!! I think we all had better chance, because looks are better distributed than status. The status Brad Pitt holds over the average men is way bigger than his looks. Lest say Brad Pitt is 20 times better looking than you average men, but is 100 times more important that your average men. That is why is common to see good looking men without status to get passed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:44 PM
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But, I could get sex drive. But that doesn’t mean you see more people beautiful due to your sex drive. I can see if a woman is not attractive even if I am horny and sleep with her thinking she is ugly. Reality is that men think more women look good. If they didn’t and it was only due to sexdrive, they would be like: “women are by and large ugly, but I still fuck them because I am horny”. Reality is they just feel more motivated to go for women cause they think they are beautiful and I think that…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:41 PM
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No, because I think how attractive you are is how others percibe you. So is not that men are icky, is just that is what women see. But my idea is that they see that be she they don’t care about looks. Like, straight men care about looks, so you’ll would guess men in general would like less women, physically speaking. But the opposite happens. Same for gay men. So it seem to me, the more people of you preferred gender care about looks, the more people they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:37 PM
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I think, caring more about looks makes people think more people is attractive. Maybe I should include that in my post. But think about it. Men care more about looks and yet think more women are attractive than women think men are. Gay men care more about looks and yet each gay men think more gay men are attractive compared to straight women who think men are ugly by and large.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:34 PM
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Sorry. Maybe is just too confusing. Did you get at least a bit?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:31 PM
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Is possible that “unfuckable guys” aren’t attractive be sue of their looks, but there is no solid evidence that women prefer abusers specifically because they abuse. I don’t think Henry cavil has pore Ken with women even though he is a very chill guy. Many “unfuckable men” look exactly as any other mother fucker with 10 girlfriends, but they live so immerse in insecurity, self pity, and hold such grunge against women for any number of imaginary reasons, that they are impossible to like. Most inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 01:11 PM
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I agree partially. Yes. Men want and like sex work, they only don’t like women becoming powerfully out of it. Makes sense to some extent. But is true there are less places to meet women and people in general. I think the problem is women aren’t promiscuous, but is important to notice men complain about this while at the same time looking for women to trick into sleeping with them. So yeah, overall, another L for men. This one is wrong. Hypergamy only refers to the preference of rich and socially…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 01:05 PM
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Did you read your own source? It literally says women are for “biological reasons” more vulnerable to be infected with STDs. Also, the article is probably two pages short, and doesn’t seem to imply that women are diss proportionally getting more STDs than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 06:24 PM
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I think she was into him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 03:16 PM
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But I think the point is that there are many men that look just the same (waiters and such) as the athlete, that are not notice, and yet, as they gain status, they gain attention. As a man it does feels that way, even they way is reported by men that started gaining status a how the level of attention they got increased so dramatically. Status is connected to the social idea of what is hot in a man, that is why is so hot. Who is hot varies form context to context, from year to year, but it usual…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:43 PM
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Well, have you slept with someone that looked like Melina at your 30s?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:38 PM
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I agree, being sexy as a man is super connected to being popular. More than looks although looks can make you popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:36 PM
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Agree, but in our current society, money means status to a great extent. As a matter of fact, I think most people want money not for the sake of it, but as a prove that they are worthy human beings, which translate into status. “I have more in better that you” kind of mentality. And women pick those vibes of who is (allegedly) the “best man”. There it comes the sexual attraction, as men are usually associated with only being sexy if they are powerful or competent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:34 PM
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Not by looking at a him, but if they were to chat him, they would probably feel it. Men become “more ingesting” with status, and seeming interesting as a man is the hottest thing for a man. That why there are so many good looking handsome men struggling to find options and many ugly yet successful guys wilding around 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:29 PM
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I totally agree. Although I do think some old geezers (60+) can become genuinely hot to maybe 30 yr old hot women (20 is too young to like that) if he is millionaire or very famous. And also, I think good money can make even fours become an 8. Women in general think men are ugly and willing to date ugly funny/charming/sweet men even sometimes when they don’t have money, so with money you can become an 8 suddenly even if you look like a 4. To me, and I may be wrong, status is the best predictor o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:22 PM
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Grandmas? 😝 you are digging yourself deeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 05:21 AM
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I don’t think both things are mutually exclusive. It can be true that younger women are more difficult to attract, yet more easy to manipulate or controlled once you have attracted them. I think women would agree with this too as they claim no “young woman wants older dad bod men”. This implies is very difficult for an older man to attract younger women. Yet, this doesn’t mean, once they get them, they could be very abusive with them. For what I have seen this is true. But most men aren’t attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 05:16 AM
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I really don’t know about manipulation. But as a 30+ man, I now see many women that never looked twice in my direction, now interested. I don’t see any women younger than 28 checking me out. So I would say is easier to get someone your age than younger. The two last times I was with a very much younger woman, they both just wanted to have fun and nothing else. They were more in charge of what happened than I 😅😅😅. They appeared quickly and went away even faster.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 05:10 AM
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Prostitution is not cool. Don’t pay for sex, is not cool. Hmmmm I think this is a good question. I don’t known if men hornier, but is true that women don’t like us at the same rate (I don’t even think lesbian have as little list for other women as straight women have for men). I think maybe canalizar that energy into other ventures. Worry less about women and try to block them sexually as much as possible. Finding a girlfriend, but marinating your main interest an focus away from sex. Is like a …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:43 PM
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Wow what rambling peace of crap. I didn’t get the point. Men loneliness can easily be redefined as men who are sexually frustrated. Loneliness as concept extends much more than that as you can be fucking all around and still feel lonely. Yet men don’t want people to fix their sense of community, belonging, self love or sen of being loved beyond romantic/sexual love. They specifically want people helping them with more pussy, which tells you a lot what the so called problem is. Meanwhile, most me…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:17 PM
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Probably. But I think we should normalize men being attractive, cause we are born in the wall 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 09:01 PM
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But she was talking about beauty. No if women are or less food options for marriage past 30. Of course goes down with age, but usually that process starts at 30 and takes a bit of time to really hit. Probably the first sign of aging is gaining weight, but it can be managed. Then the skin and the tightness or our tissues would inevitably change, and that’s when things start getting rough.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 08:42 PM
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I don’t know if women are hornier, I just think they aren’t for men hahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:58 PM
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That’s sound sad assuming you are straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:57 PM
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What do you mean by that? That lesbian can’t get women to sleep with? I don’t understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:21 PM
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But 30?? I would get 35, but 30? Plus I don’t understand the concept of the wall. Does the wall means when you stop being attractive or when you stop being as attractive as a young woman? Cause many women remain fuckable till later years.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 01:54 PM
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I don’t like older women made feeling like ugly, but being honest, men are made feel like ugly since like 12 yr old. Can we please normalize men being just as beautiful as women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 01:51 PM
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I mean, ok, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:34 PM
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1) You are using pure straw men. I’ve never said I expect anyone to talk to my wife, just that it must be part of the culture that men aren’t bad if they request for it 2) Now, there maybe risks with the paternity test, but maybe very small, the same with any medical procedure, like abortion, that doesn’t mean we should judged women that do it legally. 3) Ok, if you only vilified those who wanted down to everyone I don’t see that as bad. Which I don’t think it would be bad to have it as standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:17 PM
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Yeah, no mandatory paternity test, I don’t think that is good. Which doesn’t mean that is equal to being standard test. And wanting to know info about your son or daughter, not the mother of the daughter or the son as the test is apply on the kid, is not a direct implication, it only means you are asking for info that you have the right to have. If ir is your rights it shouldn’t offend nobody if you ask for it. Again, you are still conflating having your right with not trusting someone. Is just …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:13 AM
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This is not to be asume innocent. Imagine playing that logic at a wife that wants his husband to now use a condom for whatever reason. It can be hurtful but she is within her right and I wouldn’t divorce her instantly just for being more comfortable with that. Plus, is a right, no body is accusing you of nothing. A husband just may want the info because he wants it and be use is his right. Imagine applying that logic to the right to remain silence? If you ask for it you are guilty. People should…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:05 PM
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Because is a right. Right don’t need to be questioned. Rights don’t need to be explained to you wife or nobody. Exercising your rights shouldn’t led to you being seen as evil or judge for it. Apply that logic to people coming out of the closet or a woman having an abortion. Is ignorance if you think your husband can ask for that just because the grasshopper jumped. Is just his right. That’s the nothing with rights. They are socially acceptable. And that is a priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:47 PM
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But it should be socially acceptable. That is what I am saying. Abortion should be socially acceptable even if it is not now. And, no. We should create a society in which you can use your rights without having to give explanations or reasons for you right. You want an abortion, you get it. You want a paternity test, people accept to comply. Why not? We should be as open with men’s reproductive rights as we are with women. Men should be as secure and safe of exercising that test because is releva…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 04:37 PM
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Agree. But should be considered socially acceptable to ask for it, regardless of reason, as it should be socially aceptable to have an abortion regardless or reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 04:27 PM
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The false positive argument is agrega argument against these test. The others aren’t. In my opinion, we should no go for it being mandatory, but we can explain people not to get but hurt about it or ofrenden, as in alignment with reproductive rights, thus it should be something people should just accept if asked. Beyond what the reason behind that request, people should be open to it. Like with abortion or with using condoms. You should not get offense if your woman all of the sudden wants you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 04:25 PM
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Well, I don’t know 🤷🏾. I just thinks it sounds right and fair under this new concept of reproductive rights. Max levels of certainty and info seem good to prompt consent rather than make it worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 02:48 PM
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Yeah, but they are talking about erasing that taboo. It could be constructed in a fairly standard test, so people understand is not personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 12:04 PM
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Showing respect to someone is completely different than obeying them as they were a king.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 01:22 PM
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Is probably the most idiotic argument I’ve heard. I don’t mena this post but the “why women want to be subservient to their boss but not their husband”. There’s is literally hundreds arguments that show how stupid this. I’m gonna add some more. A) you aren’t truly subservient to your boss, you are just beneath him in authority when it comes to your job. He cannot tell you what’s to wear or who to hang out outside of work. B) if you were subservient to you husband, then it would be more like a du…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 01:20 PM
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I love that when women talk about loneliness, they talk about community, a sense of belonging, friendship, and having at network of support. When men talk about loneliness they are really talking about not having girlfriends or hoes. 😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 05:15 PM
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No, is just one factor. I think men have been taught as to be the ugly gender. Thus, part of women sexuality, as trained by society, is to almost find very few men physically attractive. Not top most attractive men, but just few as each women like something different. I don’t think each lesbian finds just 5% of women physically attractive, yet is common among straight women. So I think, is another socialized thing, the focus on how you read the physical beauty of people depending on their gender…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:10 PM
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Agreed. Very important too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:26 PM
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You are right. Is very difficult. The change won’t happen in our life time. But I guess very similar to how feminist movement had started discussing some very obscure topic, or some topics that the fat movement have brought up. The first step is for someone to say it. I walrus saying this. Beyond helping incels get girlfriends, we have to talk about men’s sex appeal in general. And a good way to say it so people can at least start to hearing it is: “I want new masculinities, and I want this new …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:07 PM
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I do understand what you are coming from. The only differences is that feminism is already changing the landscape of “the game”, and asking for new rules and new masculinities. Why not to jump in to ask for new views on what makes a man attractive, new ways to appreciate men’s looks, new roles for women to do more pursuing, new masculinities that’s includes men as sexually yummy or whatever, new femininities that are validating? I don’t think complain is good, but I do think we need to start cri…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:34 PM
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I think you are right. But do you think men lack much more than women in this regard? In others words, that women are much more fun to be around? Cause I think society is lacking a reflexión on what’s makes a man attractive. I think for example that idea that men look good in general is so diminished, that that is a big factor. And I understand that men have worst grooming habits than women, but even then the number of men that get to be view as handsome by a large amount of women is rather smal…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:04 PM
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I agree with almost all of this, but just make me wonder somethings about the orgasm part. I want women sexually beyond the orgasm part. Most women can’t make me cum (I usually do it myself hehe), but yet I like the way they feel, they way kissing a woman feels, having sex with them, looking at them, among other things. Doesn’t that motivate women to have sex with men? Like smell them, watching them, feeling them, touching them? Even if you don’t reach orgasm, isn’t that pleasurable?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 03:34 PM
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I mean, you are right, but men usually are the pursuer, so that’s a gender rol that can be potentially be changed. If women are in a relationship, more likely than not, is thanks to a man that took notice. That leads us to the reality that virgin men, are just not common at all. I grossly overestimated. On the other hand there are a lot of men that fell frustrated sexually and that want more attention from women. This has more to do with the gendered based pursuer/pursue dynamic than being a vir…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 03:28 PM
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I agree with this almost completely, except I think women are not attracted to men the way men are attracted to women due to socially conditioning and that it can be changed. I don’t lesbian experience as much lack of attention proportionally as straight men do. So os likely not natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 03:19 PM
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Ok I see. I totally agree. Is about being desired, specially by attractive women, more so than raw numbers with random women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 06:56 PM
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Ok. So is not a good double standard, right? Cause o could understand if the double standard was something like: “if a man gets a lot of attention that’s cool, but if a woman does it is neutral”, but the “women doing it is bad” seems to come out of jealousy so is not based on any real ethical principle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:33 PM
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Exactly, so how does this explain the double standard? The double standard doesn’t occur when people restrict from fucking regardless of gender. The double standard exist when people doesn’t restrict from fucking. If a man goes a fucks many women is either neutral or cool. But if a woman does it, is bad. That’s what you need to explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:17 PM
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I don’t understand how this post addressed the double standard. The post make it seem as both, a man that fucks a lot and a woman that fucks a lot, both are gross. But that is not the case. We understand how a man that is attractive to various women is more impressive than a woman that is attractive to various men, but how come is cool for men if they act on those options but not for women? This is not explain anywhere in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:00 PM
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I don’t know about the OK Cupid info being that nada I think it does show something real. But when it comes to swipes in dating apps is undeniable that women just like fewer men than men like women. I do believe women tend to look men as uglier than they are and that they see less men as attractive or just ok than the number of women men are capable of appreciate at a physical level. That being said, you maybe right that there are many men thinking they are more attractive than they really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 03:23 PM
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I don’t know. But then what about youth and beauty. Seems women also want to guilt trip men into not liking that. Is odd that women are so adamant that men’s sex appeals comes mainly from status and money, yet they are not comfortable with how men build desire for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:55 PM
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I think is both. I get when the woman is younger then 25. But I’ve seen women reacting against a 52yr old with a 37yr old woman if she is attractive. I think older women sometimes do feel jealous, but what do I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:38 AM
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Sound reasonable. I don’t think that much women get it, and is more so them for whom the next phrase apply “I want my partner to be traditional but not me”, than to men. Plus, many women don’t like men changing them for someone younger, but if we apply the transactional model you like, is only fair. But I do understand, as long as is congruent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:05 PM
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I think I say they want to have what woman, be desired the way they are desired. But, I agree, if that is imposible then women should accept what they are wanted for. Cause many of this women saying this, get mad about men’s desires. So, you can’t have both things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:32 PM
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Is just trivially true. Is so trivially true that is not incompatible with men’s complain. If you define usefulness as anything that is positive (for example, having lovable emotions), then substrate [love] form the phrase “I want to loved for being me” with [useful]. Then you get “I want to be useful for being me”. Yet your definition of “usefulness” does not eliminate the possibility of being “useful for yourself”. Your argument is so deflationary of the term “being useful” as men who complain…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:06 PM
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But why do you have the assumption that a man that describes himself that way doesn’t earn money and support themselves? That clearly shows a differential attitude towards men. And it may not be super desirable, but that’s not the problem. The problem begins when this traditional roles seem to be apply discretionally. What’s women’s role then? To be young, submissive and supportive? Cause me ay women want the traditional role for men but not to accept the traditional role for themselves. Unless …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:20 PM
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I don’t think women go for hot men that much. If that was the case it would be much less rare not being wanted as looks are better distributed than income. Also, sex appeals disappears, yet women seem not to be ok with that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:07 PM
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Well, women also get mad that women met not like them once they doesn’t look good. So if men have to suck it up why women don’t. Plus, I would rather be desired physically than economically or by fame. Sound more connected to you intimate self.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 04:59 PM
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This a rathe strange tal that is more sea toca that anything else. I guess what men want is to be liked to sex, or romance, but not just socio-economical power, which appears to me less of an individual thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 04:32 PM
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As long as men respect women wishes and boundaries, do not approach them in contexts that are invasive, do comment on their bodies in invasive contexts, share private photos of women, I think women would be comfortable being sexy to men without feeling objectified. Also, I think we can deal down on some ways we portray women on media.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 09:38 PM
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It noticing someone sexy doesn’t mean you get to objectify her or pass above their wishes. So, for example, do not stare.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 09:09 PM
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But wee also know people are more than objects. Objectification means treating women as if there were just objects to be use. Not full persons with their own desires and issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 09:07 PM
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😂😂😂😂 bro
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:55 PM
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This is funny because lower levels of testosterone may imply lower levels of obsessive lust, so more should be ok with “finding the right person”, which usually happens anyways. Also, how such a stupid presence evolved? To prefer to not reproduce rather than reproduce with a man of lower levels of testosterone when there is nothing else bailable sounds so stupid. How such a trait could possibly get Dixie’s onto a population?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:54 PM
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This is not what the text says. It says that many women have declined sex in som instance, not that this is the reason they usually reject men. Most women are likely to decline sex the first dates for that reason, but likely to accept later to the same men they are dating. This is not the reason uncle exist or why women don’t swipe right on men on tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 02:20 AM
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I haven’t notice that. But if you are talking about attractiveness in terms of physical attractiveness, I would say if you don’t have much money or status as a man but your handsome, is likely that you spouse is a little bit less physically attractive than you. On the contrary, if you have money or status, is likely that your spouse is more attractive than you, physically speaking. Maybe that is what you are witnessing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 01:41 PM
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Is just compatible with a hypothesis. It doesn’t mean that is why they are not asking women out. Really is that everything online too. And finally, 18-25 should be subdivided to see who is the bulk of people who haven’t asking out no woman. I bet is mostly 18yr olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:48 PM
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This is extremely dumb take 🤣🤣🤣😂. First, men in relationships are always showing off their body. Second, you can’t assume a woman dressing in any way or form is either available or not. Even if she was single, chances are she wouldn’t care for you. Third. Is not embarrassing, nobody gives a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:22 PM
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Intelligent men are less interested in sex and promiscuity, and are better at foresight consequences of their behavior. They are less compulsive and can harder time getting along with peers that are not as smart. This doesn’t mean women are not attracted to smart men, just that smart men are usually less compulsive at sex. There varios example of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:24 PM
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Show the stats of great grand mothers having more likes than handsome young men. Show it. Most people met in real life. So if you don’t have data on data, you don’t really know. The study you are citing gives an answer. Men marry older. So some women are dating older men, and some are dating or fucking other women. The study never implies is because this single men are incels. Sorry, you are the one bringing that particular stat of that particular study which conclusions didn’t match with yours.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 11:58 AM
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Show the actual stats for gray grand mothers getting more likes than Henry Cavil. Moronic bullshit. Also dating apps do not represent where actually happened in every day dating. And the same article that climas 60% of men are single is due to they preferring to marry older. Also who’s most single people do not feel lonely but simply aren’t looking for neither relationships or hookups. And that is stated in the study. The study that show those numbers you are spitting, never said this single men…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 12:11 AM
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First, if OF is not a good representation of the whole, you can’t drive from there any conclusion regarding society at large. Yet people claim OF is producing singleness in men. Second. The study many cite as proof of men loneliness also claims 50% of women above like 50 is single. Yet no one complains. Third. I think the epidemic is and epidemic of horny men, that people prefer to refer as lonely because is convenient. Fourth, most of this men that are single have had girlfriends. If we go by s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 10:26 PM
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Men want sexual access to hot young women. Is usually about access not really loneliness. And usually is men sexual wants what creates these industries.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 11:51 AM
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There maybe an epidemic of lonely men, but it’s mostly because they are frustrated that their girlfriends are not as “hot”. Most men that buy OF and pay for sex are married middle age men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 04:55 AM
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But sex works means more that prostitution, right? Cause many in the comments are equating sex work to prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 11:16 PM
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But that is different. This are men going for women they find physically attractive or something like that. But women are more likely to eventually fall in love with a man they didn’t find attractive at first. Where’s men usually are going to put most of their attention ruin and effort in the most attractive women out there, women are going to interact with men of verte different levels of attention. Of course this should be IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 11:46 AM
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🤣🤣🤣 the funny part of all this rant is that any body that is chronically online, knows you can see unremarkable men with unremarkable women, or even unremarkable men with pretty women, on every street and every corner of every country. There is more beautiful women dating physically unremarkable men than beautiful men dating physically unremarkable women, like by a tenfold.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 11:53 PM
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Men here are very whinie. Women give “non good looking” men way more chances than men to women that they don’t find physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 10:20 PM
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That’s possible yeah. What I don’t agree is the idea that men don’t work out, cause most women do not neither. So I don’t think that much of an explanation. On the other hand, most women report that they find handsome like less that 10% of men, which I think enter into conflict with the idea that the prow le is personal presentation. Is not true that 95% of men do not take good care of themselves. Not only that, most women don’t like exactly the same men, so this 5% is set by each women independ…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 09:43 PM
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But that I think is also a social construct. On top of traditional dating roles, you have traditional narratives about bodies and desire. So women hold beauty and see sensual, and men hold power but not sexy to watch. If we shake that a little, we would not only be in a better position to get women to approach more, but to look at the ordinary man in fairer light. Because, is not that women aren’t dating average men, they do it all the time; the problem is the ordinary man is not ogle at. So to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 06:13 PM
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True. And I also believe first women most feel safe, and then we can talk about gender dating roles being dismantled. The problem is that many women, even feminist women, opposed to it almost by principle. That I don’t get. OP is only saying that, if possible, that would be better. And he or she is right, as traditional daring dynamics are a big fundamental part of patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 06:06 PM
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Well, true. But is my understating that we are working with men so they can be less aggressive and dangerous to women. So why then we can’t work with women so told traditional daring roles, that also reinforce traditional violence against women, can be dismantled? To me it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:36 PM
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Not necessarily. For example, if you are way older is unlikely that you are “going to do it right”. Maybe because is inmoral to approach women who are younger. But I do think there is no reason to hold sexual roles for each gender. But should be pursuing each other at similar rates. And if women find most men unattractive, when we should also shake the social stereotype that men are not sexy to the sight. Average women are sexy to the sight, both to straight women and lesbians, why straight men …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:34 PM
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But how come the average men gets so many less perdiera than your average straight woman? Even average lesbian women I feel they get more fans that your average men. It should be closer if women and men are both pursuing each other at the same rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:25 PM
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Not necessarily. This is also connected on how society narrates men. Usually as ugly and not desirable at first glance. But if we were to shake sexual roles so women start approaching, we should also shake sexual narratives. Narratives in which men are also sexy and worthy of being chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:24 PM
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Not necessarily. Usually when that is the case the males tend to look better, but in this case women are the ones that try to look best, which mean they a are also competing for males. The human mating system requires more nuance and it can change a lot. Most human behaviors are very platico and dynamical. Our survival depends on that. That’s why we are one of the most adaptive species.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:20 PM
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But it work for lesbians. Also, humans have change a lot of their basic biological behaviors within modern societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:18 PM
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But I feel men tend to do the same. But just as men learn to look for someone more in their level, after women start trying it out, they would also start more actively liking the ordinary man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:17 PM
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But that would be ok, right? Having the chance to reject someone. On the other hand other venues open. For example, many times women complain that men only want beautiful women, without taking into account that reason ugly men are very good with women, is because they peruse them and make them feel special. If non attractive women were to do the same, maybe we would see more good looking men with unattractive women. If the only thing you have as reference to choose a woman is your internal desir…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:15 PM
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Is understandable, but it seems that is the basis of patriarchy, so I guess you are not completely opposed to it, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:10 PM
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But what you mean? Women often do try to seduce or impress men, so how is that they do more?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:09 PM
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So who are they dating? Older men? Cause I don’t know a single man that is having serious relationships with more than one woman. Even if they are the man every other wants, they are not in a relationship with him. I think that stats was ill conducted.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 06:45 AM
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😂 I won’t say that, but yes. The number of ordinary looking men I know with pretty girlfriends is gigantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 06:41 AM
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Like, 18-20. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 06:39 AM
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So then women find average men attractive. Every way I look, there is those ordinary looking man with a pretty girl. My girlfriend’s niece is quite pretty and she is dating a guys that looks like Doug to me. You know, the guy form TV series. Although the guy seem to have money, so maybe that’s why. But he choose this one over other one that seem be also well off, but more handsome. Also, all of her fiends are dating dudes that you do isn’t tell apart form a crowd. Most women are dating the most …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 06:23 AM
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Let’s be honest here. Does any body knows a man that looks just as yourself or even worst than yourself, with a women you find very attractive? I have. All the time. How is it that women don’t like the average men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 06:12 AM
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She is saying that they do, but that it takes time to cook.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 06:07 AM
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Personality (and above all, status) change your appearance in women’s eyes. You become sexy all of the sudden.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 06:55 AM
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Hmmm not sure. Beauty Mayte while dating, but people usually consider beauty to be ratter unworthy compared to other virtues. I personally think women would not prefer a handsome evil man over a good handsome Man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 02:55 AM
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I think this is true, but I would add that status gives you a much much more indulgence. Also, not all women react the same to good looking shitheads, nor being good looking, if you are low status, is enough for being attractive, or so I’ve seen. Also many douchebags are good at manipulation which slows them to pray on victims. Finally, if your at good looking, but you don’t have charisma, it is also more likely that people will call you out for your BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 08:22 PM
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It that is different than people liking people for being cruel. Your initial theory entails that people is going to ignore good looking nice people in preference of ugly yet awful people. Now you have change it to, people of both genders would like attractive people even if they are bad. I told you this whole “women like douchebags” comes from a failed inference.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 07:53 PM
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¡¡You are spitting true, sister!! Although some women make the same inference. That good looking guys are cocky or womanizer just because they are good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 07:51 PM
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Because these people answer back without thinking what they are being told. They buy on the user failed inference and try to explain it as if the inference is real. The problem is that two failed inferences do not make right the first one. If is true that women like assholes more than none assholes you would have to present them two versions of the same man, one that is a douchebag and another a nice guy, and see what they prefer. Most likely, they are going to prefer the nice guy or there is go…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:50 PM
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The problem with this inferences is that they are based on cherry picking. This inferences discount all the evil men that are losers with women, and doesn’t count all The chill anilla guys that are good with women. If I think in all the men I know are good with women, they come in all shoes and colors. Seriously, some are nerds, some are chill nice guys, some are assholes, some are athletes, some musicians, and varies a lot. If I think about men that don’t seem to be particularly attractive, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:08 PM
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Naaah, criminals and murderers? I mean some women may find some infamous men attractive, but most criminals and murderers in low lives don’t get much attention. As a matter of fact no body cares about them and that’s, many times, why they become violent. They don’t have better chances at life. Hmmmm if your sent attractive for others reasons You won’t be attractive for being a bully or a beater. And cheaters, they tend to know how to manipulate women. That didn’t make them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:02 PM
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To maintain a relationship, this is very important. But for attraction, being fit and having money is really a big factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 04:17 AM
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I think your perspective is very valuable, as in other post you commented on how awful is having older men approaching you. Are these approaches intrinsically bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 05:10 AM
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Both genders age poorly. One difference though, is men, generally speaking, never thought to be handsome or beautiful. So you go from two to zero, while many women go from breathtaking to zero. That’s the difference. Most men would never know who it feels to be se women thinking you look good. And once you age you just look worst but still just like a man. And when women age, they also start looking a bit like just a dude haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 06:50 PM
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Is normal, and you have to options. You find common ground between the desire of your partner and yours, or then you just walk away. The problem is trying to guilt the other into giving up sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 06:42 PM
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I think all of those examples could be manifestation of someone wanting to be you friend. Now, let’s not be naive. All these examples can also be read as something more. I don’t think is wrong to misread something as long as you back off quickly when the other person clarifies the issue. I also don’t think is creepy to flirt even when it nothing have been stated by any of the parties. Is better to not be very frisky with women that are doing their thing, are too much younger, or seem be distant.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:47 PM
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Well most of the time they tell on themselves. For what I have seen, most people tell this type of dudes, that they are ok but they lack confidence. Many then very mad, because they expect people to tell them that they are indeed being mistreated. They misogynistic types usually end up telling on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 07:09 PM
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How is it that there are more single men than women? Are all they dating each other? There is a flaw with your theory. Why do women are the ones to use make up and dress up. This signals at women also trying to compete for attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:57 PM
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How is that men are so “meh”? Do you think lesbian think the same about other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:55 PM
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They are attracted to aspects of dark triad (like confidence or arrogance), not to evil people itself. And guess what, the same applies to men. Is not uncommon for some traits of narcissistic women to be somewhat attractive. This doesn’t proves that men or women are not attracted to kindness which has also been proven many times. And this dark triad thing is just a way to try to recover the “bad boy” archetype, but is really reductive. Usually, in real life, what people calls bad boy is a guy wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 11:50 AM
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Better. No doubt. And sex don’t really motivate men to do stuff. Is more like acknowledgment. Most intelligent and creative man usually do not staff for sex as much as less intelligent and creative men. Also, women also invent ad produce a lot of thing, sooooo….. is just BS tech or art, or something like that, comes from being horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:21 AM
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While I agree with it should be like that, women are usually way way more anxious than they think when they are the ones putting themselves toward for a possible rejection. Yeah, it sucks but rejection usually doesn’t say anything about your value as a person. Many times it has to do more with the other person than yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:55 AM
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Funny, because it seems you don’t think women are truly at your level, and yet you are not successful with them, or so it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:48 AM
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“Practice with fat, old and ugly girls” what a catch you are. 🤦🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:45 AM
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I think they can feel frustrated, but if they make it like a whole narrative about women, and he becomes spiteful and a hater, then I would say he is crossing the line; because when you understand you cannot control people doing stupid shit or being some haha shallow, the best guy can do is go search for people that shares you values, and not being obsessive with women that don’t share them. And if you look at the women they feel frustrated at, usually good looking women who are also very sexist…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 07:13 PM
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By this logic most average women are not in relationships as most are also overweight, and these are not girls you notice having boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 06:16 PM
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I agree with what you are saying and that sweet can mean not sexually attractive in some contexts, but I also think many men are too scared of that word. If a woman that is visibly attracted to you says it, it is usually not a bad thing. On the other hand I do like “staunch and fair”. Most people want people that are going to treat them well and who they can feel safe with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:50 PM
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I don’t think most women are attached to the same thing, but all the other stuff I didn’t get it completely. The point is that being genuine kind and sweet can be appreciated by many women and many men. That being said, yeah, of course problematic men can be hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:08 PM
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I would not call me blue pill (pill terminology is just dumb), but I’ve always said that. The problem with red pill is that they always make up shit or over estimate what is being said. For example, red pill usually claims Women are more attracted to misogynists. That is very different from putting up with misogyny if the guy is hot. And when it comes to nice guys…well, women say they are not really nice. They are also misogynist in disguise. The nice guy would ask why women prefer douchebags an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 12:18 PM
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I think you are just deflating the concept of fuckboy to make it sound more palatable. “White little lie” that good, that’s not much problem. “As long as it’s consensual and you are not being and asshole”. Well, what women mean when they point fingers to a fuckboy is a man that lies big time, is an asshole, and that breaks enthusiastic consent by offering something he is not really offering. That been said, if to you a fuckboy is just a man that is having fun kind of in his “man whore period”, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 04:35 PM
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I’ve seen it. When you don’t like something a man is doing on his own accord, then is a simp. For example, when he is saying that benefits feminism or women perspective, he would be called a simp even if he is being genuine about his believes. Or maybe if he wants to “be a gentleman” on his own accord he might get called a simp. Simp is used to refer to anyone nowadays. The same with pick-me-girl, which is very straight forward (as a matter of fact is logically similar to simp) but is overused. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 06:38 PM
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Or simp. Or beta male.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 05:28 PM
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The same as simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 05:27 PM
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Many times it is. Which, yeah, the idea of “love chemistry” includes sexual interest. That being said, many women would pass on handsome men they just didn’t connect with or men who they felt initially attracted to at a physical level. PD. Personality doe influence how your appearance is read. So yeah, good personality could make look better. On the other hand, looks also influence the way you personality is read. Good looking people are usually considered to be more charismatic and captivating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 09:25 PM
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True. But in general is uncommon for a guy to be liked physically, right? Although, with women who this happens most be worst as it could be more difficult to compensate for it. 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:36 AM
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But make up to be more feminine looking, like to soften the face, or to be more masculine looking? Also, I don’t think that’s common in wlw. You know, stop considering women attractive just because they are in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 10:18 PM
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Ok. Yes. Maybe more men taking care of their appearance. What would you like to see? Because I feel in general women don’t find the male form and face too attractive. But what is that would make them look better?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 09:32 PM
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I don’t think that American men are considered to be particularly attractive, physically speaking in much of these countries. But yeah, If you are handsome, specially an handsome white man, and have money, there would gigantic levels of attention. Well, Asian woman (not born in America) I feel they really like white American men, physically. Not more than Asian men, but if there is a difference in money then they would prefer American (white) than other type of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 09:19 PM
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I am not sure how passive lesbian are. But when thinking about dating I was thinking more about having fulfilling relationships, I don’t think dating many people is necessarily better for that. As a matter of fact, hook up cultures kind of destroys that a little. I feel like lesbian dating is more about connection and less about sex and looks, so the intimacy I also higher, and that in general they feel more satisfied. So, even if men’s sexuality goes down and more people are not dating much, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:09 PM
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Well, yes, more sexual compatibility would be good. It could be the other way. With men being more like women. Seem wlw have it good if you discount the small dating scenes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:32 PM
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Hmmm I don’t know. I know women feel insecure about not being enough, but they also get much much more attention. We, men, we operate knowing no one likes us, unless we compensate with something else. Like being funny, being attentive, having talents or having success. But most of us know no body likes how we look; well, except for other men hahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 06:30 PM
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I only didn’t like the third one. I think more men willing to do stuff directly to the clitoris could be enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 06:25 PM
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Men don’t pump and dump and really take their dates with emotional responsibility. Women are as attracted to men as men to women. Men respect women as equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:41 PM
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Well but she is not in misery. Also, you yourself said is all good as long is not targeting poor women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:37 PM
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Is not privilege. Is just being trapped between the words and the wall. I don’t is trafficking, though. But is taking advantage of people in poverty. Still you said passport Bros is ok if is not targeting impoverished women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:51 PM
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It depends on how poor the woman is, and if she is only looking for a well off man to escape from poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 06:26 AM
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That’s the thing. That’s not really true. Many do, but also like Europeans better. And if you are not big deal, like if you are working class, and move to other third world countries, is not going to be much better for you Thant the average working class man in those places. Also race going to play a factor and money. If you go for poor women and you aren’t a catch but are better off than them, then it may work. But if you are working class, the well off women on those countries are going to pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 06:25 AM
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Couple of comments. I don’t think the majority of men with no options are in any position to get remote works abroad. Not all American men would be received so much better out there. Honestly. Race plays a factor. The more you go the more you would compete each other, plus, even if being foreign gives you a plus, most women like to pair up with men of their own ethnicity. So the completion would increase a lot with different flexing different things. If you go. Then foreign men from Asia, south …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 06:16 AM
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Why wouldn’t you see them as people? Some people will like you as some won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 05:39 PM
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Ooooh I see! I don’t think girls necessarily like “buff” guys. There was Young DiCaprio. So is not uncommon for Skinny quite dudes to be liked specially if they are pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:10 AM
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Wow. That’s very rare for a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:04 AM
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Ooooh ok. But the discrepancy is between what women say they want and actually want, or between attractive men and less attractive men, or why did you use the word “discrepancy”? On the other hand, how do you know this men gets so much attractive young women, and that dadbods guys do not get women? Or not young attractive women? And finally, well, maybe PPD girls are just average girls that want to date average men, and that ok too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 08:35 PM
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Oh bro, I don’t get at all. Like at all. Can you laid down your argument? Do you mean the disparity between the number of girls that like this guy (who you don’t know) and the number girls that do not like him (who you don’t know neither)? I’m really really not following what you are trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 08:27 PM
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Do they? Also, what??? I don’t understand. Do you mean PPD girls want men who can’t get with women like the ones this particular guy actually is able to get, and thus they don’t a relationship with him? Or what are you saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 02:49 PM
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I don’t understand the disparity nor how to connect the dots. You claim PPD girls like men who are into young girls but I don’t see how this connect with the instagram dude. I also don’t get what is the disparity, women also prefer young men, aren’t they? Specially young women, so I don’t really get what’s the disparity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 01:03 PM
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Oh, thanks for such a detailed response! I see what you mean, and I think this is the most likely explanation. The only thing that I am not completely sure, is that many here are giving you an exact percentage of the men they think are attractive…and is pretty low. So they are not talking just about men in the street, but men in general. You for example seem to agree that women are pretty even if they are not sexually attractive in every context, but straight girls seem to be implying that men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 12:49 PM
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Yeah. Probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:46 AM
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Hmmm. Sorry maybe I am talking to much. I don’t think this differences has to do with biology. I think is culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:45 AM
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Not completely sure. Some bisexual woman telling this doesn’t happen to them with women. You would except if this is a biological thing that there would no be this double standard, in which lesbian and bisexual doesn’t seem to be so dispassionate about women as straight and bisexual women are about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:40 AM
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That’s what I am afraid off. That this has more to do with culture than something natural. The way we have taught to read men’s bodies and looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:36 AM
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Would you think it would be better if we all were attached to other persons in the same este women are attracted to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:34 AM
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True. Although in the part you talk about out of shape, that’s also a big problem for women too, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:30 AM
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Ok. Well I was just reporting how it feels. On the other It feels good when a woman is into you. Not that it is as intense as you describe it and for sure we are not going to be the crushes of many women over our life courses, rather very few1, but is good that gender roles on that front changes, and for both genders to take a more active role from time to time. That would be nice to see. Footnote. I mean we gonna have very few admirers. A man can be good with women due to his personalities, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:03 AM
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Yes, maybe. Though it does feel like invisibility but in just one aspect. In like the sexy aspect. Like you know you are not sexy ever to no one, except if that person is another guy or a woman you are approaching and vibing. And is kind of paradoxical because I guess women feel like that all the time. I’ve seen women not being taking serious or talked over. I guess being a woman could make you feel invisible at times. But in that one aspects I does feel like invisibility as a man. And I know is…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 02:15 AM
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Yeah, I know what you mean. But is not what sadness me. I know that I don’t feel I can’t attract women. It just feels like your are being muted in a way. That there is part of you, that is also you, that is being detached. We are also physical beings. And it sounds, a bit cold. Maybe because I know how it feels for men. The thing you mention about bisexual women makes feel a bit better, though. I have always feel that is a cultural thing, so if this is true for bisexual women and lesbian, then i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 01:48 AM
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Is so sad to hear women talk like that. With so much dispassion about men. I wonder if lesbian think the same about women. “Women, I don’t notice them” “women are just part of the scenery doing their thing” “I don’t fin them neither attractive or attractive beyond if the context is sexual” “I like 1 in thousands women” “I’ve notice them only when I am single” “I don’t find women attractive unless I get to know them” “maybe if she stands out” “I don’t notice any woman if I have a girlfriend”. So …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 01:13 AM
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I’m asking OP if he had. Maybe I wasn’t clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 12:54 PM
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Yes most people are not going to hard core engineering regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 03:46 AM
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Have you ever dated a working class, woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 03:43 AM
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Intellectual is not same as being intelligent, is it? Intellectual refers to a person, an expert or a person of academic authority, that engages in political discussion, right? Like a writer or a political analyst. Is usually someone educated or that belong to the academic world, whether that person is intelligent or not, that is not relevant to the meaning of the word. So for what I understand, a working class person can be super intelligent, but not a intelectual. Or maybe more colloquially, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 03:41 AM
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Yeah, smells like PSYOP. Now, they have not proof that is alien, just that it has no explanation. For all we know, it could be even demons or angels. I mean, one thing is to say: I have no idea what is what I am looking at, and another to say: is aliens because I have no idea what is looking at.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 02:17 AM
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You aren’t the prey in there. You are just using you money to get your way with women that most likely don’t have any other option. Many likely trafficked. And everybody knows how strip clubs and brothels work. And most of that money is no for the woman, but for the owners of the place or their pimps. They asking to milk the client if possible (although most men who pay for this like to have the control over a woman’s body in exchange for money) or else they usually get the stick.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 02:14 AM
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The government didn’t announce it. It was one Air Force official. Or former Air Force official. What is true is that a lot of UAP are registered (many of which later are confirm to be something common) and that it would be good to have open reports for pilots on that issue, as many stay quite about their experiences. The thing that the government has two alien pilots in their power seems to be still just a rumor. But we would see. Something seems to be unfolding for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 02:03 AM
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Now, exploiting people that like you, is bad. If your ex used those guys knowing how and why she was doing, of course is bad. And if she goes and target specific men that are vulnerable to do so, yeah that’s predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 01:59 AM
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A brothel is not a example women taking advantage of men. That is my point exactly. Is usually the opposite. And example of men taking advantage of women. Most women do sex work to survive, specially those in brothels and in the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 01:57 AM
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I really don’t know what to say. Your examples, doesn’t seem to fit. One thing is to be sex worker, and another to bud manipulative wit get more that you deserved. In this cases I don’t see any of that as he didn’t get trick into spending more that it usually goes. Now, men are the ones who expect sex services to be available. That why porn exist, only fans, and strip clubs. All mostly invented and controlled by men. Now, what would I consider a predatory behavior in a OF woman. Well, that she t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 01:42 AM
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Well, if they are actively looking for it an manipulating man to get that, then that is predatory for sure. But in most of this cases is just men chasing vulnerable women. Most 18yr old women that end up in a relationship with an older man they didn’t manipulate him into being in one. They other way around happens a lot with groomers. Women in Thailand don’t even have options, so they are just being looked after due to their vulnerabilities. The man who pay in OF for the most part don’t think th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:37 PM
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Well sed with young women. 18/19 yr old are very vulnerable. The minor thing is just to show that is being predatory has to do with how and who you are trying to have sed with. Also being manipulative to get sex is predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 06:47 PM
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Not at all. Looking for sex is good. Looking for sex with a minor is bad. See the difference? Actively trying to get a minor sexually, well that is predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 06:30 PM
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When talking about predatory behavior in abused we are not referring to actual roles in a food chain in the ecological context. We are talking about individuals who abuse people resembling patterns that we saw in actual animals that hunt and stalk prey. Is just a new term use by psychologists to describe abusers that search for victims. Just like chemical substances didn’t mean what the original term substance meant, or like saying lipids are hydrophobic doesn’t mean the are fearful of water. A …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 06:13 PM
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Survival tactics (which is what women had to for thousands of year, like finding ways to please men) do no make you into a predator. You and your buddy went inside trying to find some women to have easy sexual access to, and they, in their own way, were to find a way to get the best out of the situation. But you were the ones fishing for easy targets. Do you know thy many children that are being abuse, sometimes walk to their abusers to start the sexual contact? This is just the children coping …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:06 PM
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A predatory behavior entails that the “predator” is actively searching for a victims to gain control over. In all of this situations is the man the one who is actively searching for women with less power to gain them as sexual mates. Unless you have a young woman that is actively trying to seduce men to abuse them by gaining control over them with overt manipulation, I don’t think your point has no credit. Imagine a pedophile making a claim like yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 04:56 PM
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Isn’t that is just worst? It makes it look like women are just gold digging. In my opinion, I does makes you more sexually attractive. Most woman won’t sleep with someone they don’t find sexually attractive. It just happens that money makes men more sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 09:04 PM
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But many so called “bad boys” are too. They look though and women may like that some times, but they are usually far from having “dark triad” personality. Most “bad boys” I know that are good with women just look like cool “rock stars” with tattoos and specific outfits. On the contrary, many evil people I know play it like they are good, boring and inoffensive. Women like men that look fun even if they aren’t “bad”. “Bad boy” is just a code for rebellious attractive guy, you people are biting to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:34 PM
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Metalcore? Hardcore? Sorry if I say something ignorant, but aren’t those guys the bad boys? If they were failing, doesn’t that count as negative evidence? I met many “though guys” that weren’t good with the ladies for this or that reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:57 PM
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They can have pull, but if they don’t have more than others specifically for being drug dealers, then the theory is incorrect. I’ve seen artists, nerds, good guys, have women interested in them, so then? Why do you people do not count the examples that do not fit the narrative?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:33 PM
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I’ve never seen a woman liking drug dealers unless they into drugs to begin with. And while many women indeed ignore red flags when the guy is attractive, they usually also do not think he is boring if he is attractive even if the guy is dull and goody two shoes. So what’s the point? Also many men specializes into manipulation to get women. These same tactics can work on people of any gender, age and background. So, this explain why so many women get trapped even if the guy in front wants even t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:04 PM
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This stupid. 2 is likely false, unless you show me examples of this. Now, by this logic men also want women the the possibilities of sleeping with many men. Also, they want attractive men regardless of how many women want them. It is just the case that many women would want them if they are attractive. Finally, if you think only attractive men cheat like crazy, you are in for a surprise. Many times, cheating only requires you being ready to get down with whatever is available hahahaha. Cheating …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 08:10 PM
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That not my experience at all. And I bet is not most people experience. Why don’t you just ask in other Reddit sub? Most unattractive people date other unattractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:27 PM
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But unattractive girls date unattractive men all the time. Is an usually paring, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:19 PM
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In my school most attractive men were physicists. I am a biologist. Yeah, this guys usually come form better backgrounds, and those who were consider attractive were tall and athletic, but also nerdy. Nerdy by itself is not a problem. Now, do a test. Count all of the engineers who have girlfriends vs all the ones who don’t. That would tell you if your feeling actually correspond with reality. You are in for a big surprise. Maybe, is just you who doesn’t really know how to connect with women. PD.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:05 PM
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And which men do very beautiful women are dating? Sorry, I meant: when I see a nerdy girl with tall attractive men, they are actually very attractive themselves. And finally, most women who are considered extremely attractive aren’t nerdy, so there is definitively a bias against it. And just like liking dungeons and dragons wouldn’t make Megan fox less hot, liking dungeons and dragons wouldn’t make Henry Cavil less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 06:41 PM
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All women complain of not having good options, but usually end up falling in love with a blue prince that is usually just average, specially in the looks department. Also, you are more likely to be a hit with women based in your job than based on your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 06:30 PM
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So the handsome guy is lacking beautiful women? So then which men do beautiful women are dating? Usually when i see a nerdy girl with a tall, handsome man they are usually attractive themselves too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 06:20 PM
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Do you know nerdy girls with boyfriends? Do you needy girls with nerdy boyfriends? I bet you do. I know tons.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 06:04 PM
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My friend, stop looking at teen movies. But being serious, most nerdy girls aren’t looking for chads, neither. Also heavy women are usually more open to date bigger men than bigger men willing to date fat women. If you go outside, you will see that most people date within their own range in looks, and if anything, is more common to see pretty girls dating goofy looking guys than hot guys dating goofy looking girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 05:53 PM
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They want to be approached in specific context by specific men. Cold approach can be super invasive for that reason. I think if you are really attractive or charismatic, then it could work, but with someone within your reach. Like… if you are 50 and approach a 20 year, is very likely you would crash hard and give massive creepy vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:04 PM
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I don’t understand what is your point. Also, being attractive as a man also has to do with your social status. If you look but do not get attention, maybe you need a better job or something haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:21 PM
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But in nature “taller” doesn’t mean bigger, and women like skinny tall man more than “buff” short guys. I mean, being taller can be a big advantage in a fight, but only if you are really really tall. Like a skinny guy who is 6’3 against a buff guy who is 5’8, I can see how it can be a problem for the strong shorter man, but a 6 feet skinny men against a 5’8 buff man, the 5’8 man is going to win; yet many women, specially let’s say if they are 5’9, are going to prefer the 6 foot man over the 5’8 …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:37 PM
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I’ve never understood the height thing. Neither why women value height so much, or why some men only want petite women to date. I like both tall and short women, and both are attractive and sexy in different ways, but I would prefer an attractive women of any size than a women tall or short that is not that pretty. But with women it seems height matters more than looks, or at least sometimes. Why is that? What does height add to how someone look?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:32 PM
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I don’t how to tackle what’s evident, so I would say. No, is not. Is the right thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:55 PM
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If you aren’t attractive due to other factors other than being a thug, you won’t get girls. If you are just evil or awful or a douchebag, it won’t help being garbage. Women like fun men and confident men, and some some to be narcissistic and manipulative, but only being an asshole won’t help you at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:01 PM
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True!! Most men get girlfriends. And is common for less atractivo men to get attractive girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:56 AM
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I have and old theory but with little support hehe. I think women in fact don’t care much about looks, and as a matter of fact they tend to “mute” men’ look (one time a woman here in Reddit use that term and I loved it), and that is why women teens to find most men handsome. My theory has the virtue that it predicts why women usually show so little interest in men as a general. Looks don’t marinate them so very few men “catch their eye”. Whereas lesbian who think women are beautiful, gay men who…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:19 PM
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Doesn’t makes sense. Who is with them if all have boyfriends? Is not possible. Women do feel loneliness. But is not about not having sexual options, but about not having no one that values them nor that they can give them the intimacy they need to actually feel pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:09 PM
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If you said you should live your life as you want. Yet I can see any drawback of crying as a man except people locking you for that. If you take that based on “everybody should be free to live their lives”, then what would be the ramifications of doing so?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:33 PM
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Ok let’s say they are aware. Then what?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:01 PM
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So, you would rather have the position of women, right? You cannot vote, you can’t inherit shit; you are your wife’s property. Your seen allow to do shit own your own. Your stupid, incompetent and useless except for procreation. You cannot be oppose to wear a violence because you simply do not matter. You would be ok being second hand citizen?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 01:30 AM
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Imagine living in a world with those men, and you cannot vote?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:50 AM
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2 is false. 1 is likely also a problem for women, specially as they age. Doesn’t seem exclusive to women as they also have to know how attract “high value men” and lose those skills while being monogamous, specially if the boyfriend isn’t “high value”. Is an hyperbole as women can know when their man is desired even if he is not hitting on no one. Also be use many women are with men that aren’t desirable for many. Is kind of dumb prioritize options over a healthy relationship of your goal is to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 09:54 PM
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I personally do not think that is true. And in any case, that unlikely to happen to most men anyways, so is better to play by the game rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:21 PM
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I think that, most women, once in love, so in fact develop sexual interest in their partners. I think that when that doesn’t happens, is very unlikely that the relationship would last. Is very difficult to live with a person that is going to want to fuck with you each day when you don’t feel attracted. Take Hugh Hefner girlfriends, for example 😂 Although, it does happens. Many lesbian, unfortunately have to go through this before that are able to understand their sexuality. So, maybe this happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:05 PM
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That’s true. But I think is mostly do patriarchal speciations. I am sure if this is women’s nature. I hada woman on here using a very interesting and important term, I am taking it now 😂. She claimed we expect women to have the same sexual response as men, when to her, looks are nothing, looks in men are “mute” to her. She is only attracted to men’s kindness, honesty and values. At that moment I thought, that’s the perfect way o describe the phenomenon “men’s look muting”. It feels that way, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:01 PM
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I think women are in fact attracted to men their are with. What I think is true is that most women end up falling in love with men they didn’t find physically attractive at first. Also I think most men never get to know what is having a woman thinking you are handsome beyond your partner at the moment. I don’t know if that is what your are trying to convey.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:51 AM
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Look for Meredith Chivers. Is now completely accepted that women have genital an other types of response consistent with being aroused after being expose an erotic female stimuli. There is not accepted explanation to this a Chivers herself think this is proof women are bisexual but that in women the way your body response is not connected with your actual sexual orientation. This is in part because also lesbian reacted a little bit more to male stimuli when compared to men being exposed to their…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:49 AM
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This dudes can’t give in one inch, do they? 🤣 25 is already young, and yet, nor young enough for this people. The true thing is that is very very unlikely that a woman 10yr younger than you is going to find you attractive. The problem with 18 years old is that they are barely out of high school, and that is what these guys like.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:45 PM
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Yet this average couples are what most couples are. Dudes and women who marry early with other average person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:18 PM
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So, didn’t those 40yr old couples were young once? Obviously most people end up paired up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:16 PM
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I personally think women do care about personality at all, but we need to understand how this factor are interconnected and feedback each other. People with food looks are interpreted as to having better, warmer, and more fascinating personalities. And well, when it comes to drugs and power, well, everything you do is going to be seen as exceptional; specially if you are man. Overall I do think women are much more capable than men fell in love with “ugly men” than men to do so with “ugly women”.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 12:17 PM
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I think looks are important to women, but is really true they can end up dating a man completely opposite in looks to what they find attractive. I personally think that personality, but specially status matter more. I know lots of women from high school that are with very ugly women when they not even liked average men. Now, all this guys have good money hehe. And they genuinely seem to like their husbands. But even in high school, if you are ugly, it good as sports and popular, many girls would…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 12:09 PM
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It can be lower, but I think is more likely a women felling in love with someone she found unattractive at first than a man falling in love with someone he found unattractive at first. But it can happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 11:59 AM
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You mention he is very intelligent. Why does she do, does he earns now more than your sister?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:34 PM
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AI girlfriends? Doesn’t make sense. Men would always want women that are around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 09:46 PM
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I understand. But in general there is little lack of interest, I think. But that’s what I consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 12:44 AM
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I not sure if I follow. You claim “I he thought I was ugly, he wouldn’t have talked to me”, which is weird considering is very common for people to speak to other people they don’t find attractive. But not only that, women don’t approach us or try to seduce us, for the most part. According to this logic, wouldn’t be that an indication that they ara lacking motivation? They don’t crack us out, but our DMs, in aire us anywhere, or pay to show interest. What does that mean? That is my point: Gender…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 06:06 PM
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Is not exactly what I would say, but definitively there are still more expectations on men as a sexual beings than what many people seems to accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 06:00 PM
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I’m sure. First, I am not comparing gay men to straight women, but how I am perceived as more handsome by one group but not the other. Second. Lesbian doesn’t seem to follow straight women’s attitude. Sure, they love personalities but also women’s looks (which I think straight women don’t do, they don’t love men’s looks), and I feel they like lesbian thirst traps. So I am not sure. Also, I would like to get compliments on my physical appearance, but more than that, I would like for straight wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:35 PM
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There are a lot of expectations on men. But is difficult to talk about them because people are on edge thanks to the incels. People like to point fingers, and men do it to women. They call them vapid or superficial for being mesmerized by the same qualities men have constructed as essential for themselves. But this is not women’s fault. Nonetheless, we need to start acknowledging that society’s hasn’t change much in what is consider to be a hot man, and that that has impact on how men can live t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 01:56 PM
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True. It maybe the case. I personally feels this sounds tailor made by society. We know men and women have a phenomenology of one and other that differs, but evolutionarily speaking, this seems to be an epiphenomenon. We don’t know of any other animal that feels enticed by the “beauty” of their mates. They feel attracted to their mates, but the ways human does. The problem is that what we perceived to be beautiful and sexy, is greatly influenced by society values. We can see that with races, for…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:54 AM
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Yes, but I don’t see much difference between your average gay men personal style and straight men personal style. If we are so bad a it? Why we get so much attention when we create a grinder profile only to test reactions? Many are sharing that experience. Something sound off. Even when you say “men doesn’t need to be pretty to be desired”, does that mean that we are lucky to be wanted despite how ugly we are? Be use if I were to talk that way of women, that would be considered awful. “I like th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 04:07 AM
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But it seems that that is not the case because lesbian women don’t find other women as unattractive as straight women find men to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:47 AM
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I have the same experience when it comes to opening a Grinder profile to see what happens. I got like ten times more likes and attention. On the paradoxical side, though, my experience is that women usually like softer looking guys (I have very masculine face), but many of them do in fact like men with more dominant personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:46 AM
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I think a question I would like to ask you, as a lesbian women, is: Do you ever feel like very few lesbian women find you physically desirable? Or that you are not being looked at? I think this is common for at least women men, and is difficult to explain, because most men, I think, are just as average looking as most women. So why the difference in appreciation?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:34 AM
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I think they end up with men out expectation, not due to passion for men’s sensuality. Quite the contrary many times. Is common for straight women to acknowledge they weren’t first attracted to the men they now love.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:25 AM
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But couldn’t that show, that there is something wrong in how as a society we portray men. Is obvious women can find the sex they like super physically attractive. Lesbian women are proof of it. So why this doesn’t happen with straight men? I think is because men are portrayed as anti sensual. I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:20 AM
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That’s loable, but it doesn’t explain why it seems women think men are kind of ugly in general. I get they like men’s personalities better, which is great, but how is that men are perceived to be physically unattractive on average?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:13 AM
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I think you are right, but is worth noting lesbian women seem to enjoy way more average women’s looks than straight women enjoy average men’s looks. Even if lesbian aren’t immediately turned on by random women, they perceived them to be much more sexy looking than what straight women get from men. Reason behind this? I think patriarchy has made women to experience men as something that is not sexually enticing by itself. The “phenomenology” of men in our “straight world”, is much tilted towards …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:52 AM
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First of all, 80% of women attractive as teenage boy? No way. Probably 20%. Younger men are less into women as people think. Is not until probably your 20 than you want to “bang everybody” and that still usually means a very specific type of girl. In my own case, is with age that I find mower an more women attractive. My estimate is that I now find a solid 50% of women around my age attractive. And WFT, like 80% of young women. Males wonder why people don’t look so good in my days 😂😂. Second, a …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:30 PM
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I think is good to have children young. Obviously it isn’t bad to have them later. Is becoming very difficult to have children, in such a world we’re finding a steady way of life without sacrificing family time. That also part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 03:19 PM
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That’s an invented problem. There is no need or reson for women to asume they should find a leader as a partner. Quite the opposite, I think for many is better to be single than quit their autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:39 PM
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What is logical about it? Is not needed and no and many couples function just well without those gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 03:29 AM
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I don’t know what would they want that, but most of the things people want are not logical. For example, wanting to lead your wife is not logical to begin with. That’s only based on social expectations to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:39 PM
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So women’s nature is to go to college and succeed at a career or is rollo forcing them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 04:14 PM
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And what if she is studying something that can potentially allow her to earn 300000 a year? Like cardiology or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 04:05 PM
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So red pill is as short lived theory? Once it actually succeeds to prove their point is going to end. If is true that women like red pill men, these men are going to reach them to like blue pill, and then blue pill is going to be the norm. I think they just don’t want women being independent when they ant to fuck/marry them, but that is not what they wish for their daughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 04:03 PM
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And they would advice their daughters to avoid men that use red pill tactics and views. So, in the end they know women are doing what is best for them, effectively separating between women they want to fuck and marry (they give bad advice to those women) and women they want to protect (they give good advice to those women). They say too there’s women, marry while young don’t worry about careers, but his sends his daughters to Perdue a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:27 PM
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That’s literally not the same as allowing people to impose their decisions on you. Usually when someone works for you, you tell them what to do not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:23 PM
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So why is rollo giving that to his daughters? That’s the main discussion. I’m not sure if is better or worts to go to college, I’m not commenting on that, but it seems rollo thinks that is for the best for his daughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:21 PM
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I don’t think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:20 PM
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I understand. But I think that’s OP point. Red pill men don’t even know what they want. A more “open minded” Red pill men that negotiates things to his wife is extremely close to just blue pill, but anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:19 PM
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“Giving over your will to someone else who will take the same decision as you” That’s so stupid. First, because such a person doesn’t exist. Second, is then totally useless. Why to make an extra step to get to the same place?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:21 PM
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They literally say that women becoming girl bosses is a mistake because there is not men who can’t match, and thus the few that can march, go for younger uneducated women. So, they have said the worst mistake a woman can do is following a successful Career before marriage. The are just dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:19 PM
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Red pillers are full of shit. Feminist mothers are usually more open with their daughters sexuality, but a red piller would never want their daughters to be treated like they want to treat other men’s daughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:16 PM
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So what if he husband ask the women to leave studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:12 PM
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It in general 20yr olds are unlikely to go for 30yr old dude. Specially if they are in their mid 30s. So it seems there is not much other option. But I get your point. Most women I know my age had much more fun and of course I sometimes wonder how that nos have felt.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:08 PM
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There’s is something twisted to be ok with doing sexual stuff to a person you know doesn’t want you, a probably find you disgusting. It shows twisted desired we hold as men. Sex it’s suppose to be enthusiastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:05 AM
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I would believe you. I’ve personally never seen that. I’m from latam. And if that is the case that sounds good. Most passport bro sounds like they try to make up for their lack of looks with fishing for poor girls in other countries. Also, I’ve seen Latin women that I don’t consider 9s with white men that are like way above their looks. So, that also happens. The standard get all mixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 03:18 AM
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That’s totally fine, but then also, if you go to other countries to marry normal women with jobs and economic options, yeah, young beautiful women probably would be as picky. Many types, pastor veis are targeting poor women thus can have more control over. If not, thats ok, usually their partners aren’t that young nor that attractive. What women don’t like is when the guys imply is good to go to other countries where they gonna be able to get what they want based on third world economic conditio…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 02:50 AM
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Also, they get mad because this two examples are exploitative.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 12:34 AM
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To be honest, most passport Bros score within their own league as far as I can tell. Many times I see Karin women scoring above their looks with European men. And American, I don’t know but it doesn’t seem to be more desired than Europeans.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 12:15 AM
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What is true is that modest men are perceived as ugly, while less women are perceived as ugly. Men have higher chance to be liked despite being perceived as ugly, but that doesn’t change that that’s not ok. We as a society have a distorted view on men’s Beauty. We are not as ugly as we have being made to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 08:38 PM
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Even from an evolutionary perspective, it doesn’t make sense to put more weight on indirect markers of male quality (how many women like you or how many you have sleep with) than in direct markers of male qualities (height, healthiness, actual status). That would be a very ineffective way of picking males out. It’s worth adding that: the number of women that like you is an indirect marker, but the number of women you have slept with is even more indirect than the number of women that actually fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 12:16 PM
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You didn’t constructed a statistical statement. Your bad. And again there is no proof whatsoever that body count alone would make a man more attractive. Again, you confuse the effect with the cause. Give one example of an unattractive (physically), short, and poor guy with little dick, that all women want after knowing he has slept with multiple women. Now give one example, of everything else being equal, where women prefer with statistical significance, the guy with the most sexual partners. On…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 11:20 AM
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Again. Jogging makes body fit because is casually (in the physical sense of the word) connected to your body. Is your body doing the jogging Having more women is not casually connected (much less in the physically) with how other people perceives you. Now, you can have slept with 100 women one time, and that will not mean you have more sexual experience than a man that have slept 1000 times with one women. That why you red pills show you haven’t had experience with relationships. I repeat becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 11:18 AM
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Single example debunk general statements. That’s logic 1.1. Now, a more broad probabilistic statement can survive a single counter example. But not matter how much evidence I give, you won’t accept it. Body count is meaningless. It maybe correlated that very attractive men have high body counts but that is because very attractive have the interest and the option to do it. Right there you are confusing the cause with the effect. Attractive guys have high body counts (given that is truth because I…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 11:08 AM
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Jogging is something that act on your body, while body count do not act on other people’s perception of you directly. Again, having more women is not having more sexual experience, nor having more women makes you more attractive. I’ve know plenty of man all women talk about, yet they have had few girlfriends, and men that most women are not interested in, that yet are promiscuous because they would have anyone who takes them. No hot women is impress by a man who has had multiple women even thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 10:56 AM
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So then blue pill can also worked depending on what you mean by being the best version of yourself. RP is always talking in riddles. If by being better you mean a stronger, more capable, wiser, more empathetic, more independent, healthier, more moral man that treats other people with respect. I would consider myself red pill in that case If by being better you mean you need to become a chauvinistic, materialistic, sensation seeking, inauthentic man whore bossed with gyms and power over women and…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:24 PM
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Agreed. So body count is not actually important for structuring actual desirability. On other topic, what about men who women want to fuck, but men doesn’t want to be? They would count as high value within sexual market, yet men don’t want to be like them. Like I don’t want to be Justin Bieber but women definitively want to sleep with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:24 PM
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And blue pill, nonetheless. So maybe is not that bad anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:13 PM
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I don’t know. Maybe I was interpreting RP wrong. Because if RP admits that women are not intrinsically attracted to a man’s body count but actual characteristics that can exist independently of body count, then I should admit I agree with red pill 🤣🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:10 PM
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The bluest pilled man in America and that is the example you go by?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:53 PM
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Understandable and also, an actual probe that attractiveness is not necessarily linked to high body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:52 PM
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Whatever the reason, he isn’t any less attractive because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:51 PM
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That’s the logic jump. A man sleeping with 500 women implies he was desired by those 500, but that doesn’t mean that is the case that he was exclusively desired by only those 500 women. The same goes for the man that slept with two women, maybe because is what suits them sexually. And there is also the problem that it implies more merit to be desired, say by scarlet Johansson, than 500 random girls. I’ve know plenty of really poor, really goalless men, that have many babies spread all across tow…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:44 PM
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Because people are complex. With different problems and different agendas, but that is not because they haven’t heard the recommendations before. 🤣🤣🤣 you guys thing what makes an advice basic is how much people follow it, when in reality what makes it basic is the level of depth and detail of the advice. Go to the gym, work hard, be a man, is something chatbot could write. There is no more depth to RP. All other advice on how to get rich and in shape and good with women, all of the details of it…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:56 PM
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So the body count is only correlated not the cause of the attraction level. You just give up yourself 😆. As a matter of fact it would be easy to assume that between a Henry Cavil with 500 body count and Henry Cavil with a 2 body count, everything else being equal, the latter would be preferred as it shows commitment. On that case women would get the best of both worlds.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:40 PM
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Exactly. RP thinks that a man that has slept with knows what, but many, is more desirable than a Henry Cavil that has a body count of one 🤣. If your are wanted and wanted by the most beautiful women, that’s enough to be “high value”, you don’t need to sleep with all of them to be more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:15 PM
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That’s the problem, if you don’t know what becoming the best version of yourself means, then is impossible to evaluate RP. RP only answers (a very bad and basic answer by the way) if you think becoming your best version is getting bitches, Bugattis and more money you can handle. RP answers to that. Go to the gym, work hard, and be a man. Fucking Einstein level response 🤣🤣. My 17 year all niece could’ve come out with the same advice 🤣🤣.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 11:52 AM
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Straw man. Who the fuck had said women should be treated as queens? Which is funny because blue pill is usually associated with buying “feminist propaganda”, but if anything the treating women Like queens come for traditional marriage, which is where red pills wanna go back 😂. I’m not pilled, but I’ve never heard someone that redpillers call blue pill, to make that claim. MF, talking about tangible concepts. “RP is about becoming the best man you can be” what the ducks does this means. There is …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 11:19 AM
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Not really. Is what fresh and fit say. And even if red pill doesn’t say that. Then even worst for you because that’s the only points of contention with blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:35 AM
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Amen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 04:55 AM
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This is dumb. First. There is tangible advice that is not red pill. For example, the first thunk would be to Bali and love yourself. Not only this can boost you confidence, but is more important to be integrated as a person than getting “bitches”. Knowing yourself can also help you to differentiate your target community. A woman that shares your values and interest is much more likely to be impress by you. Another advice. Be ready to actually connect with women in your life, create rapport by ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 04:25 AM
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Hahahahaha that’s crazy. Why would you want to bend a person that doesn’t like you to your will?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:55 AM
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Probably the lots of men who aren’t single too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:14 PM
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So who are their boyfriends?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:33 AM
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This is dumb when you notice that the preference overweight women have for non-overweight men is very slim for the most part. You have a better chance as an overweight white men to be liked by an overweight women than by non-overweight woman. And don’t get me talk about race. It seems more of a problem then weight looking at this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 06:48 PM
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It’s not the same but neither of them seem to be something that actually threatens the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 08:05 PM
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You are right, but, for the most part your like is one among many. Even if it is directed as someone it has to do more with you than worth other person. On the other hand you can still watch the pictures and like them on you head, so the like doesn’t seem to take much.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 08:04 PM
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But don’t you think she would feel insecure if he suddenly starts getting a lot of likes. What if he starts getting as much likes as her or more. Who would give likes to women in bikini if not boyfriends of someone 🤔? I think is ok for her to take pictures of herself and also for him to like other photos of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 08:00 PM
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😱😱🥴🥴🥴🤡🤡🤡you have opened my eyes with your insight and wisdom!! 💩💩
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 10:34 PM
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Myron and fresh are just idiots. They don’t even know the fuck they are talking about. It was awesome when the rapper stood up and said “the fuck with this MFs” hahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 05:14 PM
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So if you are right, your whole argument is just irrelevant. Why should men fight against sexual purity? Be aide they want sexual purity. It has nothing to do with this convoluted ways of saying “yeah, if I were to fuck is ok but I won’t, so what’s the gain?”. Even if you were to have more sed you would still not wanted it, as what most red pillers like you really want is to all women sleeping with you but nobody else. That’s why red pillers a are always making a trade off between women being op…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 03:26 PM
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Yeah. I get what you are coming from. What I try to convey is that being beta refers to a position not a quality of mind, spirit or personality. Maybe some personalities are more prone to be alpha, but we do wrong by interpreting “beta” term as meaning a quite, shy, sensible, intelligent boy. In biology that is not what we call beta. A beta is just someone fighting for becoming and alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:35 PM
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This is dumb. While hookup culture is detrimental to both sexes, is purity culture which make women picky, and thus avoid having sex with random men, except few. Then you get mad. And the problem really is you all want a pure woman to begin with, otherwise it wouldn’t matter if she had sex with ten “chads”.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:29 PM
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You are right in that most of my points don’t contradict what you’ve said. Maybe should’ve thought it better. I maybe was trying to say that “alpha behavior” is not that intrinsic, and many beta male would develop the aggression, of course while competing for position, but also would get a boost once as alpha. So, to some extent male chimp develop those traits once they become alpha rather than just having it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:25 PM
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You start with something that sounds scientific but end up with weird like opinion discourse. First of all, alpha is not an intrinsic characteristic. In animals alphas and betas are always changing position. You are a alpha according to your place not your nature. Second, its been shown that politics within the chimp societies require have good relationships with the female. Third, humans societies are so big and so complex the alpha/beta distinction doesn’t really apply. Many times, human dynam…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:14 PM
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The “your own safety” argument is so stupid because, each person needs to take care of themselves, but everybody is responsible for not violating others persons safety. If depending on dumb contexts I am not responsible for no violating others persons safety, then the whole concept of criminality doesn’t even make sense. People’s should be careful, but not to be made accountable when falling to do so, otherwise is like prosecuting someone as a victim. Is stupid, only people who wants a special p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:06 PM
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So sorry you think that. But I’m statistically insignificant. How to know Myron doesn’t know statistics without Myron admitting he doesn’t know statistics? Because he uses frases like “those women are statistically insignificant” or “those women are proven to be statistically insignificant” 🤣🤣🤣 mother fucker wanting to meant “those women are rare within the population” end up showing he doesn’t even read the actual paper he references.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 12:52 PM
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The hard part is Myron used to be in a unit fighting human trafficking. He doesn’t even understand the basics about sexual violence. He is literally a brutal ignoramus.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 06:02 AM
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But if you are actually doing something with your life, you should be judge based on your movie count? Hiking for fun is easy. The problem is that difficult levels has never been a criteria for morality, just competence. So that’s why what you red pillers really are pulling is just a stupid non sequitur. There are easy things that are ok and difficult things that are shameful, and that’s has nothing to do with the difficulty level. Another problem of your view is that a 60yr old woman who is pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 02:15 AM
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Do you shame people who go out to hike? Is easy. Do you shame people who go out to movies. Is easy. Do you shame people who go out to play a sport in a non competitive level, anyone can do it? Easy stuff is no reason to shame no body. I don’t price people who go for a walk or read a book or do anything anybody else can do, but I don’t shame them neither because they are doing it for themselves. Men shame women for fucking because they want to control them, how easy is to do something is never us…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 09:14 PM
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This is the best, because not men don’t care and even if they care they would make excuses for the women they like. Men rationalize their preference to try to convince themselves that things are going to go their way, when that is not the case. Once they have make up rationales for their preference they feel powerful to shame other men into they preference because they know they have other way to punish women. So is for the beta in the end, just delete yourself from dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 09:06 PM
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Not necessarily, many women date rich ugly men. Also many date just ugly poor guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 04:54 AM
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But in this two cases, that doesn’t seem to follow, as they date attractive, important women. Much a coincidence that they don’t struggle in a very competitive scene with few women liking them in proportion. And how do they maintain their fandom base, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 12:29 PM
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“One swipe away”, women don’t use apps as much as guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:04 AM
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If women had more freedom we would have it better dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:26 AM
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Although, being honest, women care less about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:05 PM
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It this calculator is not filtering women by looks which is what men care the most. I bet I would go way smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 05:21 PM
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Yes. I don’t think is bad women not liking being approach. But that doesn’t make men who approach necessarily bad. Maybe is just the shear volume of people doing it which is unbearable for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 05:20 PM
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But nobody consider having something they don’t like offered as harassment right of the batch.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 05:14 PM
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Yes, many men don’t know how to actually enjoy and be with women. That’s why they are always sad, with or without girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 04:28 AM
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The generic study only find that at some point in history the genetic contribution to human genetic diversity of male dropped heavy, but they are not sure why’s this happened. Also, this doesn’t mean women were excluding 95% men as potential mates, most likely is that big landowners just secluded all women (as if they were property) from themselves, which we know is very common in slavery cultures and feudalism. Prima nocta, for example. So this is not by any means prove that women don’t like me…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 01:22 AM
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Probably, but I don’t see an “attractive” women’s going down so bad just for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 02:59 PM
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But how you know is be use the haircut and the sucks? Sounds no much of a dealbreaker. I really think, is just not that attractive, as is very hard for women to find men physically attractive. Maybe you can see how attractive he is as you know him, but generally speaking not much women find any of us handsome at first sight.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 12:21 PM
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This is dumb because movies are usually over simplistic and just fantasy. Other tropes that you see in chick flics is the super beautiful woman who isn’t like because she wears glasses and likes science courses or Theater or BS like that. Does that correspond with reality? Another one is that in this movies alpha queen bee girls do exist (which is in contradiction with RP ideas) and it usually is with the alpha male. This depicted women may be, shallow, high maintenance, shitty and all that, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 02:17 PM
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Do not classify women based on their looks and don’t try to be for only the ones with specific physiques, and you would find many amazing women to love and be loved by.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 01:20 AM
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Ay least! Being a man could be like -3 points easily hehe.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 12:52 AM
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No, I think, around 50s 60s can become hard for most women, or at least similar to men in their age bracket.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 11:27 PM
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I usually not agree, but yes women are not much better. On the other hand, if put in a male role, I think they may learn quickly. Sadly I think many would resort to toxic strategies. If could put a woman in a male body, and she was into picking up women, I think she would have a very hard time. Not getting to know them, but inspiring sexual or romantically connection as a man can be tricky.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 09:27 PM
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But o think they not are only sleep with them. So their like vary, but very attractive men are more common to be like by various women, where less attractive men are liked by more specific women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 12:10 PM
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Yeap.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 11:55 AM
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Ok. Although is difficult to know the real proportion, but I guess there are men out there that have high body counts. Doesn’t sound as dramatic as “women all like only few men”.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 11:54 AM
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I really don’t know in this case. But not sure if women are steeling for sexually unattractive men. Is possible in some cases. I bet it was more common before.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 03:22 AM
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It said something different, like: “men tend to say they have more sexual partners because is accepted for men but stigmatized for women” y “this varies individual to individual”.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 03:16 AM
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More less accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 03:04 AM
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That’s just not true, many studies show women, more than men, react with attraction to other factors other than looks. They don’t appreciate our looks mi chi but on the bright side they are more Likely to find a man attractive beyond looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 02:58 AM
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You only find that 20% are very attractive to many women, not that individual women cannot be highly attracted to less attractive men overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 02:50 AM
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ChatGTP just model language and it has provide with flas I for many times. What did you ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 02:38 AM
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So then, is a good thing. Maybe things would shake a little. And this would mean maybe more would star working for a better world instead of just surviving for a mistaken understanding of what “protecting your kind” really means.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 04:59 PM
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That’s sounds right. Yet doesn’t have nothing to do with wives. Would you accept the “rat treatment” only for a woman assigned to you? Don’t think so, right? Me neither, but it has nothing to with women. Is about work, rights and dignity, not red pill insanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 04:49 PM
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Ok, send some dudes to live in the wild and see if they try to survive even if no woman is there. Is just dumb. When in history of species have you seen males go cry because is no woman there. Hunger and survival is much stronger. Also many men have active things out their own interest. Basically, scientific revolution was carried by a virgin and many other doing stuff in their free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 03:38 PM
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On the internet. Most people still get partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 01:01 PM
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This even makes sense by red pill logic. If is more difficult to get women, men would try to compete even harder a work more. That’s red pill logic entail. “Men have to become something”. Never in that part says men area “entitled” (which is dumb, you can’t start a real family by title) to a wife, but that men “need to earn her”. So if anything, should be better to the economy. Funny how many of you are probably capitalists and thus believe in free and hard competition but then would get sad tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:09 PM
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Yeah but these people would still be doing things had they hadn’t have wives and kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:01 PM
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That’s sounds perfectly ok. But thinking there is no point into leaving work out of a tantrum. I mean, you have to eat. The article even mention that the study speculate about how these men survive without working or studying. It says it hasn’t been studied if this men have informal means of income and that is also possible that they are being payed by a spouse 🤣. So really, nothing to do with not having wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:00 PM
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It was a socially constructed idea. They were no going to stop working or surviving just because there is no wife. Many great minds didn’t even marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 11:57 AM
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Nowhere in the studies is suggested this have to do with wives. And if your only motivation for working is to get a wife, you are probably no a functional adult and won’t produce much to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 01:38 AM
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Sounds legit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 01:21 AM
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Maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:59 AM
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Well, you are right, but there are so many well known actors that could be doing the same, yet they clearly don’t pass on women 30 yr old. I rare in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:03 AM
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I would agree to some extent, but something smell fishy. The part you consider women around 30 old to fuck, sound a bit very in touch with the general discourse. Are you from Argentina?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 06:44 PM
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No if they are choosing completely aware, but I think the point is that is not uncommon for this women to be with older men in relationship in which they are treated with authority as if they were children. So they are not that in control of boundaries and what is convenient for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 07:21 PM
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Oks. Cause I’ve seen people get mad with that too. But is true. I think going out with very young women is problematic becuse many times they don’t have the emotional depth to understand what is at stake.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 12:55 PM
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I think that maybe because most of us would stop being objectively attractive between 35 and 45 😭😅😅. On the other hand, in general man are rated as unattractive even from an objetive standpoint by women, right? So the likely hood of a man end up dating a woman that didn’t find him physically attractive is very high. I think is super common for couples being formed between a man and a woman that didn’t notice him at first, and not even think he was handsome before getting to know him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 05:33 PM
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I agree with this in general, but one thing I think needs attention is age gap relationships that do no involve no one under 30 or maybe under 28 I don’t know. I can see a women under 25 being groomed by an older man to have hook ups, in a way she doesn’t have the emotion depth to get control of what is happening. But why if he is 52 and she is 37? It seems to me the grooming danger has expiration date. And don’t get me wrong, everyone can get groomed at any age. But, after 29, I don’t see the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 05:26 PM
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I agree with you. Most older men going for young women are going to get ejected bad and seen as repulsive. But what about the ones who attention for one or other reason? Are they bad if it is only hooking up? I think it is that what OP is asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 04:56 PM
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Don’t know but that seems your problem, as I didn’t said nothing wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 03:40 PM
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Very powerful response.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 03:35 PM
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There is no problem with what we you want, but then don’t complain that “feminism is destroying the west”, as you are part of the problem according to you own principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 04:07 AM
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Red pill theory is not only hypocritical, but non sensical from an evolutionary perspective. In which way increases your fitness to pass on a healthy capable woman just because he has had sex with other males that didn’t get to reproduce? Red pill answer to that is that women with various sexual partners become less likely to pair bond and thus become shitty mothers, with each partner they add. This is not only based on pseudoscientific BS, but is completely false. Let’s for a moment asume is tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 03:15 AM
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Did you read what you wrote? Hahahaha that’s exactly her point. “If men controles the sexual market promiscuity would be high” yet according to red pillers they hate promiscuous women and promiscuous women have ruining the west. In other words, it was women who had men under control so the wet could prosper hahahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 12:27 AM
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But you can take a straight man. The same man. And get two different rates. Gay men rate being better than straight women. You would think is just because gay men are more appreciative of manly faces overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 12:25 AM
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But gay men don’t rate other men as low.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 11:19 PM
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I don’t think so. In general women don’t like male faces. Vary few they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 11:14 PM
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Again. Those are only example. You can literally say I am interested in having sex or sexual encounters no string attach. I have say it. I have had women say it to me. And nothing happen. Those were examples that worked for me, but everything was clear. I have never ducked zone no one so I am no lying if I say some other stuff may arise.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 04:38 PM
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Not. You can see in my examples I am not being vague. I was just saying to not get the other guy to respond back. Is just not my style to speak like you, but still saying exactly what I want very clearly. I only the ambiguity part fly, to avoid the straw man of “oh but you can use this language because it spoke women” that you are using now. You may not care about the shot part, but many do, and I bet you are as polite as you need whenever you want to preserve X relationship that do not like cer…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 04:07 PM
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I don’t know. What is disgusting about I have to take a massive shit? Also, women like seduction, so if they are not responding sexually to you with “I want to fuck you hard” having variance in your approach maybe of benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 03:36 PM
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I don’t understand your point. My point is not being repulsive. Basically I said what I want but not in a way that is repulsive like many men do. And in the end women are free to do it or not, and some of them say thank you I don’t want and others say ok it works. If I was being deceiving many more women would say yes and regretted afterwards, but that doesn’t happens, so I am doing it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 03:31 PM
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Hahaha believe is not that hard unless you are really really big. Most women ara overweight too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 07:17 PM
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And adding to the comment below you. An overweight man can get dates and girlfriends, but it can be more difficult and it is less likely that that date is a fit girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 06:21 PM
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Also, being good with people is not to get days. Is about your own morals. Do people like kind people yes. Do people like hot people, yes. There may be instance in which this things aren’t alined a people would have to choose between hot and kind, but what you won’t see is people, women included, liking someone who isn’t hot, just because he is an ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 12:56 PM
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I don’t understand why people think losing weight is something only red pillers would advice to do to be more attractive. Is so basic, now, you can be overweight and still get a girlfriend. Is she going to be super fit, unlikely, although it happens. But everybody knows that losing weight is good if catching the eye is what you want. How is a that a red pill victory?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 12:54 PM
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“Women rather be part of a harem”. You don’t understand how harems worked. That’s very dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 02:25 AM
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You have a choice to no be with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 02:19 AM
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Some narcissistic men have always been kin to hear things that degrade women. Lots of the guys who hear AT are struggling with women but must of them have girlfriends or are sleeping around or are just too young and yet want to hear shit about women because that’s how they feel about them. I’ve also been rejected. Women didn’t want me as a young man. And while is hard and of course gets you angry sometimes, most of the stuff AT days is down right more horrific than being alone or a virgin. He is…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 11:52 PM
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Personality, status, emotional connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 10:43 PM
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Some do not need that. Many claim is to feel they are liked, that the men is actually interest in them, or just to feel feminine and properly seduce. Patriarchy invented that system by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 10:12 PM
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I explained it in other comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 10:09 PM
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Well, they actually get turn on by the thought of having sexual with you. The origin of that feeling doesn’t need to be physical necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 10:06 PM
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At least the mother fucking woman actually wants to sleep with you! And is enjoying it, while the prostitute is probably trying to think she is in a forest while doing it. Very big difference in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 08:13 PM
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Yea and is a very bad argument. When you spend money on a woman on a date is part of courtship, and you do it with the hope it would ignite romantic or sexual feelings towards you. Is really nothing like prostitution even if is “not free”.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 08:06 PM
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But you know what OP is talking about. He is talking about prostitution which is not the same at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 06:45 PM
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I think it is, though. I feel that ending gender roles would make a better case for men. Even in the sixties, with the hippies, I bet men enjoyed more attention in that context. That’s because gender roles weren’t that rigid among hippies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 11:00 PM
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Hahahahahahaha crazy. The compromise for what? No, my theory goes all the way in the opposite direction. Patriarchy taught women to not like men. Within patriarchy women are suppose to be submissive and not pursue men. To expect men to try to get them and oppose resistance. Also, these narrative than men are a uglier is usually pushed over by other men. Being “beautiful” or appealing at sight is commonly met with homophobia except in some cases like, I don’t know, Henry Cavil. And, I feel women …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 10:51 PM
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Is imposible for a woman to fuck 360 guys in four months. Fuck, if I had 360 matches I would probably pick just four out of them too. The sad part is not a women not sleeping with all the men that want them, but no men getting that amount of likes and matches. Straight women seem to find men physically unappealing for the most part. Gay men get so many matches, and I bet lesbian women get a bigger proportions of matches even with “straight girls” than men. Why women don’t like men physically, is…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 03:16 PM
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It can’t be truth that young women are dating older men cause then there would be more older women single or divorced. In the same graphic you can see is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 09:54 PM
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I’ve never seen such harems. All my friends have girlfriends. All the young men I know have or have had girlfriends and dates. And women can stole with someone they can’t fuck at all, so their taste does change as is more important having a good job than looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 07:03 PM
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In general yes, but people can be percibes as more physically appealing after getting to know them. This is most usually the case for women. That’s ahh many women end up falling in love with unattractive men. Usually of high status. But this could happen with men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 04:06 PM
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Exactly. And also, that’s because we don’t have much class. It is important in many societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 12:06 AM
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There is a trade off between between seeking other mates and parental care. Human males are notoriously more into parental care than other big apes. Is likely than human males evolve less to be polygamous than its cousin species. That’s another reason why homo spies is less sexually dimorphic when compare to other big ape species.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 08:28 PM
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Please enlighten me. What is evolutionary observation?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 08:24 PM
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Evolutionary observation. Oilo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 08:24 PM
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A woman with mental illness of course can experience rejection form men. And others of course. Also. Men of certain status usually are looking for women of the same class. Not necessarily successful by themselves, but from “good”families if you know what I mean. Now, is true that women don’t have their sex appeal to social competence as much as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 07:11 PM
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I mean. If you don’t get no woman but stop talking about it all damed long day, I bet no one would care. Seriously, I know men who didn’t date much and now have a family a nobody gave a duck about his sex life. People respected him for other stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 06:33 PM
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I am not sure is only that, but that again goes against OP claim. Also, many times women who go for bad boys or fuck boys or whatever, they also choose them for their status. Is uncommon for guy to experience a lot of attention form women if he doesn’t have popularity or respect among men. Well, at least I think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 01:43 PM
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Pure BS. First, how can women be both “hypergamic” and now more than ever but at the same time less than ever. You are saying that women now care more about “genetics over resources”. So I don’t understand how this match with other RP assumptions. You say men have not reason to develop functional skills, yet technology is advancing at frightening rates, both by men and women, working on them. How is our society going backwards in terms of innovation? It doesn’t hold. All the scientists and engin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 12:56 PM
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“No unique skill”. That’s a very odd statement. Then you cite a bunch on non gender specific skills, like paying for your car, repairing shit or defending money. Specific skills belong to the individual. If she is an architect, she would helpful for building you house more than a male plumber.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 12:00 AM
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🫶🫶 that’s what people don’t get. And human behavior is extremely plastic. Our “nature” needs to be very flexible to social conditions to adapt to ever changing social landscape. That’s the treason we are able to learn new things, come with new concepts in science, tech, arts and philosophy. That’s why our standards change throughout history. That’s why things function different in each culture. Some stuff, of course, are more universal, but in a very broad sense only.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 12:02 AM
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They would also celebrate the unattractive, fat or old woman who gets lots of men. The argument is bad because is easy is one of the dumbest in human history. There are a lot of things that are difficult that aren’t celebrated and things that are easy that no one shames. Something being easy or difficult is no intrinsically bad or good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 06:02 PM
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Everybody is on that, that’s why it can copycat ideas that sound natural. Or maybe o don’t know how that robot functions but I’ve heard that many many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 05:56 PM
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I don’t know where this ideas are coming from? Many men who feel they deserve a better looking women Thant the one they have, I guess. Most women data average men in their 20s, average men in their 30s, average men in their 40s. Why are you so scared of the “chads”? That what you want to be? Or why this obsession with Inventing odd theories? Did a “Chad” took your crush, or what? And of course mate preference is going to change throughout a woman’s life. Your own theory predicts that. If women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 10:08 PM
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I don’t think men like “young thin women” due to testosterone, as testosterone levels tend to reduce as men age, and yet still I don’t know any guy that is like “Hmmm, you know what, young women don’t do it for me anymore”. Also, many men are serious hypocrites when it comes to age gap relationships. I know many women just feel threatens by men attraction to young women (and I don’t blame them), but many men are just the same, going after women dating older men, calling them old diggers and what…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 06:14 PM
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I don’t know. Maybe you need to expand on that so I can’t understand where you are coming from. Men are over reactive with women. And is like many are obsessed with picking at women. I think that shows emotional dysregulation. Many throw tantrums and are always mad. They get annoyed at strange things, many are depress, isolated or manifest antisocial behaviors. But yeah, we would need an expert on the subject to say if is right to say or not, to believe this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:48 PM
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Exactly. All of this shows that deciding which gender is worst is pointless, as the problem is patriarchy. It directs the conflict for both genders. Now, men violence against women is ten times worst than the shit men experience while dating. Being man is hard, and feeling like women don’t look at you sucks, but I wouldn’t trade my place with them. Rape, murder and violence is out there, haunting women at every step they take. Always in need to be alert. Women also get so much shit, with men (an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 01:08 PM
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And 80% of women are not dating only 20% of men. How many men do you know that have never had a girlfriend or a sex night? Is that 80% of the men you know? I know no man who is an incel. And fuck I am not wealthy and chubby, and yet women date me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 01:01 PM
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Because all of this behavior were install by patriarchy. Is not like homo saline appeared in the earth and women were already expecting men to pay for the dinner. Under traditional gender roles, all of what you cited is expected and enforced. Men should approached and warm the woman’s heart. Men should pay for dinners and dates. Men should be taller than women. Women should never ask a man out. Women should find a rich husband. All of your complains, are meaningless within traditional gender rol…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 12:58 PM
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This is just false. Women may get cranky while they have their period but they won’t loose sight of what is going on. Plus, at least they have a reason, here, the other user is implying men do not get in charge of their emotions never, so your answer is really weak. The second topic is ridiculous, there is not proof women do this regularly. Most women are with men they love. Third is just stupid. Do women live only to populate media feed? Tell that to my boss who is a chemist promoting various s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 12:46 PM
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Ok, show the data. And while we are in there, lest do a quick exercise. Men on this sub? How many men do you personally know that are single, or that have never had sex or a date or kiss or anything? Excluding teenagers…. I know no one, nobody, zero. Including teenagers I know like… five? Is just a lie. It is not even possible for 20% of men to date that much women. I’ve never seen Henry Cavil go down to Walmart to pick up the cashier.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 12:04 PM
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The 80% rule is just false. Get that in your head. Other than that, congratulations, you just showed why we should get rid of gender roles when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 11:57 AM
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Maybe, although some are average.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:48 PM
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No. But there a guys lacking at least one of each of the traits you mention that yet have girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 04:15 PM
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I think you have answer yourself. They know everybody has insecurities, but the point is not letting affect the relationship. And men who are bad with women, usually do it. They project their insecurities causing harm. Fuck, incels have created a while theory of nonsense just to project their insecurities into women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 12:08 PM
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I agree, but why a we don’t say that when he is young and rich, or young and famous, or young a genius? Like, why we didn’t see wrong in prince Williams’s marrying someone with so much less power?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:33 PM
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No, but many times they are used badly. Would you be ok with your 18yr old daughter saying a 40yr old? Like, if my daughter is 37 and is dating someone my age, that’s not cool, but I wouldn’t feel like she is that much in danger. Maybe, our aversion to age gap relationships como from the idea of seeing different generations mixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:28 PM
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I think some age gap relationships are inherently wrong, but not all. Like he is 52 and she 37, I think that’s maybe not ideal but is ok. What I find it weird is we don’t see the same when a rich young guy dates a poor young women. If power is such a problem, these ducked up too. Like my friend who was excited a young senator (probably false) was trying to pick her up. Isn’t it bad when a powerful young man wants to date a young unknown woman? That fiends was very critical of one of our male fie…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:25 PM
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I agree that many women just fell threaten by this. But they are right. They are too young! But I think is ok if you are older and she is, I don’t know, 35 haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:11 PM
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I agree in general, but there is also lookism. If the on is attractive, and let’s say 37, and he 52 and ugly, people would still call like there some abuse involved. Many people don’t like this relationships cause they view them as disgusting rather than just wrong. But yeah. If you are more than 30 and dating beneath 25, that’s a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:06 PM
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Maybe. But I have seen womanizers go out of their way to make a woman fell in love with them even if they were already fucking casually. Many womanizers are also complete fuck ups who do it as a compulsion a can’t stop. Self destructive behavior many times. So I do think power plays a role as many men need to feel powerful and in control of women to feel masculine. PD. I’ve also seen womanizer being disappointed because a specific woman that didn’t put much of a fight or passing on women that we…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 05:38 PM
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I’ve never met a man like that who is ashamed of doing that because he has no other option to get “high number of experiences”. These guys just want to have their ways without considering the other. For that you need to see the other person more as an object than as a person. Otherwise you won’t be thrill to have sex with a person that way, by deception. Ok, I wanted you but you don’t want why a I offer. So is not for me and you move on, without being obsessed with anyone you want by any means n…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 05:12 PM
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I know plenty of feminist who don’t search for “having the same as men”. As matter of fact, they usually go the other way around, actively stating they prefer stable relationships. They just don’t shame women who are having fun. They would only point out when a women is letting others hurt her for various reasons. All this moral panic you guys have about feminism is in your head. Feminism is not teaching women to “be like men”. Just to be protagonist of their owns stories. The thing is, some yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 04:47 PM
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For sure. You can have casual sex with women and not being a dickhead. Many men are being honest about their desires and still manage to find like minded partners. There is lot point being a fuckboy, and fuck boys are not fuck boys out of necessity, they are that because they love the sense of control and power they get form manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 04:43 PM
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Men have always been two face about what they want from women. They want them pure but they pressure them into giving up. Do you know the XVII Mexican poet Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz? She literally talk about it very clearly in one of her poems. Men want women to give in as proof of their interest and make women responsible for not being “pure”. Feminism doesn’t say women should sleep around and it doesn’t say, even less, that women should based their validity as women as a function of their sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 03:52 PM
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I don’t understand arguments like this. Is like a thief or a murder asking why not to do bad things if is easier to achieve certain goals. Well, because police would come for you. Fuck boys exist because everybody allows them to keep doing shit. As things are changing men feel attacked because people now are questioning them. Is not than being moral is the hard way, it is that it is the only way. The point of morality is that going to the other way is a no no. If that doesn’t exist then, there i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 01:10 PM
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Well you aren’t saying nothing against what I think real. Men, more than women, are going after the top 20%. That they have to compromise is other shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 01:56 AM
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I don’t think so. In any case is the same for men who all desire the hottest women. Even in OkCupid trend is been shown that if women think most men are unattractive, they are more willing to give attention to most men, while most men think many women are attractive, but invest most of the time in getting attention form the top hottest ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 01:30 AM
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You lost me at “they’re dating the top 20%”. That just imposible. Of course there is going to some overlap.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 01:19 AM
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Hahahaha those guys are idiots. Is stupid to no go for a career if you are a woman now a days. They know it. They say what is better for all women except their daughters? So are they fucking them up? Or are they helping? Helping of course. They want girls to not have studies to be easy to control, they just don’t want their daughters to be easy to control.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 08:16 PM
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Biphobia in women is not biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:15 AM
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That has never happened to me, and I have downvoted people too. Is not a big deal. Whenever I’ve seen a woman calling a guy incel, misogynistic, or the like, must times they had it coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:21 PM
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I’ve never seen that. It usually men who start saying some shit what prompts those insults. When they discuss things in a more personal tone, they usually get positive feedback. Even in YouTube, the famous video “being ugly” or “my experience being ugly” was met with a lot of support from people, and many were happy for the guy when he met a girlfriend. There is no problem if a you disagree with a woman. But if you disagree with a woman who so saying women aren’t intrinsically shallow or the mai…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 01:42 PM
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So weird that so much woman are saying they want to be approached when there are many others who hate it, and think is creepy. And the thing is cold approach can be really risky as women can genuinely think you are doing something bad just for that. And worst of you are no within your same age bracket. I wouldn’t approach someone who is much younger than me. Maybe much older.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:44 PM
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The thing is not that people hate on them for wanting to date and have fun. They hate on them cause they think their issue gives them right to shit on women and think society should do everything for them to get laid. They don’t care to discuss lookism or sadness or loneliness. They think people should make space for them to throw tantrums and hit people with their rage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:01 AM
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Are pickier but not more than men this days. Back in the day you have to have a wife early on not matter what. They didn’t even needed to look sexy. Nowadays is very important. Many men are really waiting to have the 20yr old bombshell. And this old “mom worrying about their bachelors son” it isn’t new. But yeah, all mothers never understand why their son isn’t being picked whether he is nice guy or shitty guy. All mothers think their sons are good men and handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:47 PM
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But they struggle too. I bet. And yeah, the idea women like bad boys is old. And yet the idea that women like nice guys is old too. There is always going to be men who complain about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:15 PM
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This idea that women don’t like nice guys is not new. So how come they are confuse now? Is just not true. They like some nice guys and som nice guys they don’t like.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:06 PM
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🤦🏾🤦🏾 this girls. And yet they don’t like Red Pill but they contribute to its radicalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:55 AM
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So women do not pay taxes? And these bottom men usually do not really protect no one, nor they do infrastructure, nor they innovate. So what’s the point, sorry?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 10:01 PM
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By who? If most men are not getting laid, who are bullying them. I literally don’t know any men that haven’t had a girlfriend. Well, yes. Teenage boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:31 PM
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Ok, hypergamy as a term refers to the act of marrying someone with a better social position. Socio economic position. It has nothing to do with women wanting only to date the most handsome men. Second, women behave hypergamic do to patriarchy. It was important for women to find men who would support them. And, in any case, this doesn’t explain why you don’t deserve the women you get.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:30 PM
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As you can see, best estimates consider that incels are no more than a hundred of thousand men. Few compared to general population. Many of them would get out of the community and then get replace by other younger men. Is just few accounts which remain active and produce the block of posts. There is really no epidemic. And that may explain why most people do not have friend that haven’t been in a relationship. All the men I know have had girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:25 PM
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Forced to get in a relationship with a woman that doesn’t deserves them? What does that even mean? It would still bounce you out of the incel category.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:20 PM
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https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/04/love-and-loss-among-older-adults.html
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:15 PM
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Well, she is the first to tell this. And when men complain they usually blame women for being too something. Or that they lie. We can talk about lookism without doing it about society owing sex to men. There is even this argument that society will colapse of women men don’t get wives, which they do, because only a small amount of 16yr all the comprising force o incels. Somewhere o read that 95% people get married at some point in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:00 PM
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😢😢😢 that sounds awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:55 PM
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Ooooh the difference is I know no one who is good who do it only for the pussy. They usually just quit. You maybe the exception. Or wait, who even knows who the fuck are you, so maybe not even you. And who knows, maybe all the lawyers who are even better than you, do actually have interest beyond getting pussy. Most likely. Bet many of the lawyers who are better than you are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 02:46 AM
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True. Just is usually the other way around. Talented people do not develop skills when they don’t care about what they do. Examples of that are everywhere. And usually what we called talented is people very passionate about what they do. Just tell any successful person name and I bet most likely he/she is passionate about what they do. Try it. Give a name. And good for you if your a good. I bet most people here would probably make the same claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 02:36 AM
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Yes, most people I know who are good at what they do they care about what they do and not getting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 02:28 AM
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Who is better? An engineer doing things he is passionate about? Or an engineer who makes the bare menu in to get more money? Wonder Tate is very good at exploiting women to get money to them exploit some more women. What does he provide to the world? Newton die being a virgin, yet change the way humans get knowledge forever. I’ll have one newton over 100000 red pill lunatics every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 02:19 AM
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You do all that just to get women!? You don’t have a self. You are just empty human pretending not to be. Just go to the beach open a bar, and fuck whatever available. This society needs motivated people not just dogs chasing a bone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:26 AM
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Yes. And that’s very nice. Is also good when women check you out. Pursue you. Send likes and comments on social media. You know feeling desire. Like someone wants you. Most men Would only experience being wanted by each partner they have at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 11:41 PM
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No. They are ok. But, those have nothing to do with sexual orientation, right? Even women have their girl crushes. And I am not saying that the only way to show desire is through sex, but also asking out guys on dates, paying for them, giving gifts, flirting with them, and just show interest and attention, even if unprovoked. But women usually don’t feel interest for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 10:55 PM
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There is this concept, that women a taught to want to be with men even if they don’t desired them. Many lesbian experience it. And I feel women in general have little desire for men, but usually are very intense about wanting a relationship with them, even if they don’t desire them. I think That’s patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 10:47 PM
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Well, patriarchy. Compulsory heterosexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 09:59 PM
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I totally agree with you. We have a problem of desirability for men. Men are always painted as the unattractive gender. We need to make men sensual for women. Women and men had been taught for varios years that men are ugly or unappealing. That men sex appeal is too concerned with their status and not their sensuality. That’s why is difficult for men to feel desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 09:10 PM
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I think is more that women really don’t like men that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 09:04 PM
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No. Animals do not have a concept of beauty. There cannot be a beauty standard. They don’t feel ugly nor they think the one in front of them is ugly, they just don’t mate. Is different. Is you people conflating concepts that don’t even belong to the same field.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 06:26 PM
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There is people who is not attractive that manage to present confident very early on a becomes attractive. That being said, you are right. Most of what makes us insecure (both men and women, young or old, etcetera) we learned from people. If people didn’t despised fat people, would we even notice that we are fat? Probably not. Now. Being more confident in your own skin may help, but that doesn’t change that is ok to question how society treats you, and others like you. On the other hand, that do…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 03:32 PM
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This is just coming out of your ass. We figure it out how to give every man a wife and society begun. Before that only war. Yeah for sure, that’s exactly what happened. Yeah literally our ancestors just sit down to discuss how can we stop war and they came to the conclusion it was hypergamy. They had amazing insight. Where do you came with this laughable stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 05:18 AM
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🤣🤣🤣🤣 maybe he sees in those women what you can’t. And maybe he is the one shifting away for some reason. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I bet all the women you friend is dating are super gorgeous and the only stuck up, jealous guy is you. Probably you only see the ones that seem single as attractive because they seem to not be “have” by anybody, which leaves open the chance you would conquer the “heights”. Tell me, tell me, please: how old is the old women you friends dates? Have it occur you that these women aren’t hold…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 02:24 AM
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Well that’s true, only few mammals are strictly monogamous. But humans are not that polygamous neither, and actually they are little dimorphic compared to other big apes. So that maybe and indication of more parental investment within the family for males.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 05:44 PM
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I don’t think they’re wet given a chance. But, you are saying monogamy is more natural in the wild, right? Which now that you say it, I think is true. Our ancestors before agriculture where more monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 05:30 PM
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Ok, thanks for the clarification. Although this polygamy was reserve mostly for noble, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 03:06 PM
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You guys are crazy. Get out of the Internet. Funny fact: men believe women evolved to be hypergamous and prefer to share top men by nature, which means this trait had to evolve during hundred of thousands of year, or millions of years…. Yet, on all of this years, single men were never a threat to human society so much that the trait evolved and got fixed in society. Another funny fact: many here believe that feminism is doom to failure and is a cancer because it goes against nature…. Yet they wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 12:54 PM
1

Are women fitter than men? In general all people should try to be healthy and in shape if possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 10:11 PM
1

Hahahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 11:34 PM
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Is that knowledge here with us? 😹
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 11:05 PM
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Actually, no. There are many bad things going on that are not due to patriarchy and feminism is very clear with what is what and how different factors are connected. That is call intersectionality. You just don’t know about feminism, that’s the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 09:13 PM
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In which way? Is blaming a system, that also affects men. You can be an ally and feminism would not blame you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 09:07 PM
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Oppression is not the same as just having it bad. Do you know what are the countries with biggest suicide rate? That’s not reason to keep from denouncing countries without freedom, for example. Do black Americans kill themselves more often than whites? Your argument is a non sequitur. And funny enough, feminism has an answer. Men kill themselves more often as patriarchal rules expect them not to talk about their issues. More men are homeless also because men are expected to deal with shit alone …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 09:04 PM
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Shaming men’s preference? First, nobody says men are weak for no dating fat women, but that they shouldn’t mock them. Which is funny because that’s exactly what the article you cite says. You didn’t even read it. Absolute fail. Then, the N-count standard is something that only exists out of shaming women. That preference didn’t evolved and many men do not care. The ones who care usually are compose of people which would abandon their standard if the girl is hot and they feel for her. The rest us…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 08:47 PM
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Exactly. What woman consider to be the appeal of the “bad boy” has more to do with the being edgy cool than actually bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 06:18 AM
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Is really just a myth. In very small percentage of circumstances it happens that a “bad man” is attractive due to their evil doings. All other cases there are cofounders which explain any specific guy attractiveness. And there a lot of men who are less successful than they could just because they are horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 06:16 AM
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Many women are not there actively hooking up. Many would find a boyfriend and that’s it. It takes time. So young men don’t have that many chances but they would get their girlfriend later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 04:26 PM
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There is like 18% of women that don’t have sex and would likely get a partner later. Like most.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 03:04 AM
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More or less right. Attraction and love are not transactional, though. Is just a very poor representation of something complex that involves bi directional relations of both feelings and power. Why I don’t get is why red pillers acepte some facts (which they exaggerate to create wild stupid theories) but deny others. Fact. Most people care about personalities to some degree. Fact. Most people like lovable kind people (even though so times those same pipelines abuse to some degree some of those k…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 04:27 PM
1

You need to stop watching cartoons.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 04:31 AM
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Hahaha exactly exactly. RP are so dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:24 PM
2

Exactly!! I dunno how red pill came with its conclusion from knowing shit about anthropology and human genetics
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:23 PM
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I think you are failing to see a couple of things. First. You assume variance in kinks in males came from “the sexual interest in variety of sexual partners and sexual interest” in the common male, but in reality lots of these kinks have a unique etiology. Second. Some of these kinks are not variant in the male that experience it and could become his unique form of arousal (necrophilia, pedophilia, violence, creepy crawlers). Some of these kinks stem from shame and fear of rejection, or the tran…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 02:11 PM
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Exactly. I do think women like men a lot less. Even men that are young healthy and with good jobs, men that would get lots of attention had they were gay, they usually don’t have many secret admirers in straight world. So this not just because in general both men and women find only 20% of people attractive. So, if only 20% of people is attractive, I would say women only find 20% of that 20% attractive; at least when it comes to straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:22 PM
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Hahahaha exactly, hahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 01:58 PM
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Doesn’t make sense. I don’t know what counts as average women, but most women are dating average men. Now is true that beautiful women tend to date men with fame and power regardless of their look, and there are many good looking broke dudes dating less attractive women. But, other than that, most people is average and most couple you look out there are average.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 01:57 PM
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I have nothing to argue here as is other topic that doesn’t really interest me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 08:51 PM
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Is not a form of abuse, but it maybe a red flag for a toxic relationship. Don’t be in a relationship that doesn’t make you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 02:20 PM
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Yes, you are right. Also lost of these guys are very resentful (many times without real reason) towards women, and of course this makes them unbearable. Women only respond to “bad guys” when they have something going for them or have superficial charm. For the most part they ate repulse by extreme manifestation of narcissism, specially when this comes in from vulnerable narcissism which makes people look pathetic. What I don’t get is how serial killer are cooler. Most of this guys were the most …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 12:31 PM
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I think part of That sex appeal comes form notoriety, which can be confuse with fame or even power. I actually usually see this interest as prove of importance of status. For a woman Thad feels a bit of an outcast, looking a freak appear everyday in tv and being discussed forever, may create the sensation of achievement. As a matter of fact this not only happens to women, as many men treat this guys as rock stars, which may confuse wome ni into treating this men as they treat rock star. Rock sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 04:04 AM
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Yes. Although it maybe a sign of internal social dynamics, not necessarily that they are perceived as particularly intelligent. For example, in school, being athletic was super importar to be attractive, specially if you were part of a popular group within a well regarded sport. Yet that’s quickly changed in college, and all of the sudden solving differential equation became hot. Of course, this is because, in college, having those skills is more relevant to decide you social standing. Being in …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 03:31 AM
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Being a serial killer is not interesting. Or maybe it is, to very deranged usually useless individuals as well. And most serial killers are usually deranged and useless themselves. More animalistic than having any depth or real purpose. You are just showing your own inclination. And all of that even while granting you that that’s what some women claim when they say these incel guys are vile. I feel you just make that assertion out of your own mind, as I have never heard no one claiming that ince…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 01:51 AM
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I didn’t catch the depth of your point. But, I know men of all social leves can get women, it is just that they attractiveness level is far less than it’s own version if they were rich or famous. Again, if personality was more of a factor than success, we would see men of all social leves struggle to get women’s attention, and we would see men of all social level attract women from all social levels, all leves of physical attractiveness, and all levels of intelligence. But we don’t see that. Is …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 12:19 AM
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Maybe. I hope you get well and usually there is somebody for almost everybody out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:36 PM
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I would need to know what did you say and what alleged arguments you claim to know if they are probably right or wrong. I’ve witnessed the other way. When men showed sadness for rejection without entitlement and a blaming attitude towards women, for example pointing them as shallow, they usually get words of expungement form women. As a matter of fact I’ve just watched a Facebook reel a couple of minutes ago about a man mentioning his troubles, and all women in the comments were very supportive.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:29 PM
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I don’t think women have said men who are not very attractive or that fit girlfriends later are bad. I think they are saying that a lot of guys who complain about that actually display very chilling bits of misogyny, vulnerable narcissism and aggressiveness, which in turn, many times are the bottom of why they are so unattractive. Many of them would have no problem getting girlfriends if it wasn’t for that. Take Eliot Rodger for example. He was even good looking and had a nice car, yet his “ugly…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:17 PM
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Everything you just said made you sound awful as a person. “At least the serial killers did something” you are completely out of your mind if you think that count as something. Even a person enjoying a night of gaming with their three virgins friends is doing much more than a fucking serial rapist and murderer. Oddly enough, many of this people you claim did less than serial killers admire this bastards for the same reasons you are giving them credit for. Horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:59 PM
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I think even intelligence tend to be judge in terms of social standard and prejudice more than it is judge based on personal connection. Usually a person who is in tech would be judge immediately more intelligent than someone that knows philosophy, for example. He would be judge sexier by more women too. To thaw level status affects how wee judge people. And with men, it tórralo affects our sex appeal to great length. I would argue is the single most important factor deciding once sex appeal as …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:52 PM
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I think personality can in fact make some Men to be attractive even if they are ugly. Women can develop sexual attraction to ugly men easier than men can do that with women. But no amount of personality would make more attractive overall than a guy with too much money or fame. I know some guys who don’t look that good compared to their girlfriend nor have much money, but the very attractive intelligent women just because they are funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:33 PM
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Exactly. This would happen very rarely if personalities were more important than status. But is almost always the same for men who suddenly become famous or popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:29 PM
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I do think personality matters more than looks. Unless your are enormously good looking, then probably you personality won’t matter either way. But overall women are way more responsive to personalities than even men. Now, when it comes to status I think it does matter much more than personalities. I’ve met men with game or pier or money, and they all get more interest regladles of their look and personalities than your average block, even that’s you good looking ones. And not only from very pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:20 PM
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Yeah, is something that may require to be discuss at a societal level and I agree the man shouldn’t be held legally responsible for the child no more in case of paternity test. That’s beyond the personal aspect, as I may still help the child I probably love, even if it’s not mine. But that would be a personal choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:04 PM
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Ok. I think that’s good option. And let’s not make it like asking for it is such a big deal. Is just info. I think That could help make DNA testing a much common practice. I am thinking that in the case of proven paternity fraud, specially if it happens within the marriage, or if is proven the mother knew who the father was but lied about it, and depending on how much time took it to be disclosed, maybe up to a 200000 dls fine or something like that. I don’t think it serves having jail time for …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:48 PM
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No. You just denied the problem. On your account the problem is not a problem. Your solution do not go in depth about reproductive rights, the fact that it is impossible for people to control what other may do to them, and the social and political solutions to that kind of issues are standard for all societies. You are just assuming there is no real problem to begin with because this only happens to idiots. In any case, it infringes reproductive rights for men and should be penalize. Now, should…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:32 PM
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Look, that doesn’t solve any issue. But o won’t keep on question you, as you obviously not open to see the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:14 PM
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I agree. I don’t understand why it can’t be a standard medical test. I don’t see how it hurts women if we assume it to be standard. It would help the state to settle responsibility for fathers that are not taking care of their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:31 PM
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But you agree men who don’t know the true identity are being victimized, right? What is the proper way to help them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:24 PM
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That example is relevant for your point, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 05:54 PM
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I am just saying we need examples of women pretending to be men, not men pretending to be women. The only relevant case is the first one, not the second one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 10:38 AM
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Their based experiences don’t entail garbage theories.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:12 PM
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Is more than that. It infringes on reproductive rights, as people have the right the consciously choose to be parent and for that they need all information. Also, not knowing if the child is yours usually only happens if there was infidelity. Have you know that, you would probably hadn’t accepted to coparent with that person. Is really a violation of reproductive rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 03:50 PM
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Not sure. It all depends in what you mean by not personality. I’ve many men that doesn’t have what I would call much depth to themselves that are attractive regardless. Now, is this because people just like them for being handsome or just because they have more personality than I grant? Both. People have different opinion on what constitutes a great personalities and people usually feels more connection and more interest in good looking people. And yes, this su ally happens to women too, not jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 01:57 PM
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I wonder if this happens also to wlw.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 02:29 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:47 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:39 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:38 PM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:37 PM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:36 PM
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Yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:35 PM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:32 PM
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Sisi!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:32 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:31 PM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:31 PM
1

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:30 PM
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Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:30 PM
1

Si señor!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:29 PM
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Exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:28 PM
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True!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:27 PM
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Agreed!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:27 PM
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Yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:26 PM
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Yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:17 PM
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Yes yes yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:17 PM
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Agreed!!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:16 PM
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Yes! You and everybody that knows you! Congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:16 PM
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Yes! No more. You and me finally agreeing!!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:11 PM
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Indeed. You and me are on the same page. Non-sequitur s are still fallacious.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:11 PM
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🫶🫶🫶
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:09 PM
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Awesome. So no more to talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:07 PM
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You can talk about feelings without feelings being involve in my points. So, non sequitur. Yeah, claiming things without explaining why is your thing. Just babbling.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:07 PM
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Explain that again. To me it seem you just start saying stuff without understanding my point. If is tru you understood it, you can analyze it for me once more. If you don’t want because I am dumb or whatever, fine, the conversation is over. I still doesn’t feel like nothing happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:04 PM
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How is a contradiction? Not feeling bad about it doesn’t for contradict not having feelings involve. Sorry: I mention to say “still not fallacious”. That’s a non-sequitur. The fact I announce it has no bearing in whether or not is true how I feel. Ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:02 PM
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Can’t be if I am not arguing. Specially when you yourself don’t have a point. Explain your point if there is one. I can explain mine if you want to. Show which are my premises and my conclusion and where is the fallacies. Explain my argument. If a I’m commuting fallacies is because there is an argument is not working. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:59 PM
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Not my thing. Don’t see your point. You don’t have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:56 PM
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No feelings involve. Still fallacious. Non I committed. You called on non specific point. So no much my problem. I’m good.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:56 PM
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I have. I have make point. And I think still works. If you don’t, that’s your prerogative.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:52 PM
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Yes. And since non of them apply to me because there is no real discussion, I don’t feel bad about it. You are not sustaining nothing nor disproving nothing specifically. And yes I am lost because you are not really trying to prove nothing but to appear intelligent. I am fine with how things went.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:51 PM
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I don’t even know what you are talking about. I think you haven’t even disproven one of my claims. Maybe is because you don’t even have a point. But awesome if you won. Since you are not even disputing anything I don’t feel like you refuted anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:46 PM
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About what? Non sequitur to what?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:44 PM
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Non-sequitur? About what. I am not trying to prove anything. Just saying women have been oppress. You are just claiming galaxy without addressing which was my argument. I only said that women respond like that because men use those stats to prove men have more problems (which is not true), which doesn’t change historical opresión to women. So both things are try at the same time. No need to use your problems as weapons to deny others people problems. Feminism is usually open to discuss men’s pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:41 PM
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He hasn’t prove shit. As a matter of fact he is really wrong. As a biologist I can’t tell you women and men are more alike than different. Like in almost all mammalian species.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:40 PM
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What sentiment you have proven to be false? That’s the problem. By saying those things you haven’t proven women flaw in any regard. Women have been historically oppress. There is many reasons to think these, including that of decade of research, if not century, but somehow you think suicide rate disprove an historical fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 01:13 PM
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The only thing that have proved is Micro differences. Bradly speaking, female and male behavior is 99% for Homo sapiens, like it is for almost all other mammalian species.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:25 PM
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This broad general patters are almost the same for both genders. Tan female cat vs male cat. Yeah, is the same for humans. 99% of human behavior has nothing to do with sex or gender. Is just, broadly speaking, common to Homo sapiens.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:17 PM
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The problem is what constitutes a small or big difference. Would you say cat female behave similar to male? Would you say dog female behave similar to male? I would say they are almost exactly the same. Same goes for humans. There are biological difference in behaviors but are restricted to sexual strategies (usually short term mating) and much much smaller that the similarities.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:59 PM
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That is because most men only mention those problems to usually put into question women’s oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:53 PM
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Both genders behave more similar than different. The difference is usually small and usually irrelevant to draw the conclusions society gets out of very dubious interpretation. Look at female cat to male cats. Yeah, almost no difference. Same for humans who are little dimorphic compared to other apes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:48 PM
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Hi. Do you remember the name of the study by any chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 01:06 PM
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It this doesn’t make you case. You didn’t claim that is easier to talk to guys for girls, but that girls pretending to be guys would have a harder times approaching women than they think. Yet this user is proving you wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 01:05 PM
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This makes no much sense. If conservative women are not fucking “alphas”, an they represent roughly half of women’s population, then how is that the 20/80 rules sustains? Also, you commit a non sequitur. The fact that most liberal sees nuance with cheating doesn’t mean a) they are cheating more (you are lacking data as conservative women can say whatever and still break their principles as commonly happens) b) they are the only ones fucking alpha men. If we go by traditional gender roles, accord…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:51 PM
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I think she is saying that women have a least one thing to offer while men have nothing to offer at all. Obviously she is wrong, but I think that’s her point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 01:04 PM
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You know, as a biologist I’m obligated to correct you a little bit. Men and women didn’t evolve specifically to satisfy some gender role. Women, like females of most species, are perfectly capable of surviving by themselves. They wouldn’t be able to reproduce by themselves but that’s about it. I don’t know of any species where female cannot survive without males. There is no evidence to suggest women evolve specifically to no be able to innovate, create or build. If we were to send women only to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 12:56 PM
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Like god. 🤣🤣🤣. Half of RP ideas come from a part of reality closed to the mediocre mind: their own asses 🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:50 AM
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I don’t. I would have to search it. I’ve seen that tested informally. There is even this social app where it have been appreciated that what women usually points out as tenets of attractive men are usually expensive clothes and muscles. Also, is not only the way you look what changes. Many women think they are more attracted r personalities. Well, rich powerful men are usually evaluated as to having awesome personalities by the women they pursue. Is not uncommon to see ugly older man being able …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:12 PM
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I think you are right, that doesn’t happen. Now, something that does happen is that men with money are evaluated to be better looking and more sexually stimulating than their poorer counterparts. Again, men’s worth and sex appeal is completely linked to their status. We have been taught that for thousands of years. That type of patriarchal classism is still standing. But that ain’t women’s fault. Yet we have to work together to erase this sexist and classist views.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:58 PM
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Ok, now I understand. I think gold digging is way less. To me gold digging is not finding someone attractive, but wanting to use that person for his/her money. That’s very rare in women, which value love and being attracted to their so. The problem is that rich famous men are the most attractive, because society deems them the most worthy, and thus, many non- gold digging women find them attractive. They are not with the for their money but because they find them attractive. The issue is that in…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:44 PM
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I understand lookism is believe people with certain appearance are more worthy as people. Is people having social privilege based on how their look. Classism and lookism are everywhere, but we, as men, can testify our worth and level of attractiveness is completely bound to our class and status, thus why we feel pressure to have status. We are judge far more by classist prejudice than women, just as lookism prejudice is way worst for women. But yeah, wee are not lying when we say we are usually …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:38 PM
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You said “And a lot of other women want him? Oh great, now I have a bunch of competition and he’s going to constantly be tempted int cheating on me if we date”. That is implying such men are super attractive thus not attractive to you because he is gonna cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:33 PM
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I think part of these type of discussion is that we can’t express us in a proper manner, and specially RP guys are full of fallacies. I think the proper way of speaking about these subjects is to point out how lookism and classism are involve in the dating scene. Both affects men and women but lookism is worst when it comes to how society judge women, and classism is worst when it comes to how society judge what is an attractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:30 PM
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🥲 it was a good reply but later you claim women would be surrounding such man, which just further supports OP claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:25 PM
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Hahahahaha I don’t even want to say. That literally came from…. Well better not to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 05:11 AM
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I get what you are trying to say, but by definition you can’t rape or murder someone without violence. Even if you drug someone or something like that, the act itself is classified as violence, so even if ir isn’t brutal o doesn’t involve physical harm, that still is violence. I mean, I get what you are trying to say, but being proper, rape is in itself violence just like murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 08:43 AM
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What the hell are you talking about? If you think of a evil men, yes probably the first thing that comes to mind is a misogynist but at the ame time, someone who is rude to people he think beneath him, who is obsess with power and money, and that is a loner. I don’t think the stereotype of a bad men is jut linked to women. Also a bad woman would be stereotyped as someone who is rude to everybody and that treta other women bad because is envious of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 06:46 PM
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Ok, I see what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 02:04 AM
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I agree with that. That’s why I think is better not to complain or make theories about this as most of that is just stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:42 PM
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Yeah, the thing is that athletes doesn’t complain of a trophy “plays hard to get” 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Like there are trophies out there that want to be won so baldly, but they play like they don’t want to not come off as easy or to appear to be a change but really they are dating to be won by specific athletes. That’s a double standard because athletes who “play hard to get” (like they don’t want to win) are treated differently. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:22 PM
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Probably hahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 09:00 PM
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Ok. So explain that to OP cause he seem to implied that women play hard to get with men they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:55 PM
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Which is too much to ask. Women can only play so much strategies not both at the same time for every guy they like. They have to choose. It seems that the best strategy is play hard to get for everyone and see which is willing to hold their ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:49 PM
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The body count. Apparently, many men want a woman who hasn’t slept with many men, yet, at the same time men don’t want woman who are hard to get. So… doesn’t make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:45 PM
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Does that mean she isn’t attracted to the average men? It sounds that she is explaining why she won’t go for the most attractive. I’ve heard men claim similar things, but no one interprets that as meaning they can possibly be physically attracted to average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 02:18 PM
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Yes. I think many times straight women don’t initiate because they really don’t like most men. They are not much into us.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 07:46 PM
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Thats interesting. How many women have you asked out? How many have you found attractive? Because I think many times straight women don’t take initiative because they mostly don’t like any men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:34 PM
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The only problem there is that most men would never have one single admirer in their entire life. We need to make men hot in the eyes of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:23 PM
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That’s true. But also, women really just like very very few men. Like, really really really few. Each of us is considered handsome by a handful of women in our lifetime. Like…. Five hahahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:56 AM
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Yes. And that’s has a lot to do with classism. And yes, women based a lot of what is attractive to them on classist assumptions, even if they are not aware of.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:31 PM
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I think that of you see women and children as weak, And men as Great for being protectors, it comes then naturally. But that’s my point, don’t call it respect if you don’t want to, but men have always been seen as being the fundamental center of our society. Women second place. And children would become either future center or future second place. And everything you said prove it. Even it seem you also believe that. The whole “men build society” thing. That’s exactly what I am saying. Men sent p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:21 PM
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I agree with all of that. But that’s my point. That when people hear “dating problems” they asume is being unattractive. I feel OP I trying to show that some of their problems come from a frustration directly related to shallowness. Maybe at my 30 something year old age o won’t be banging a hot 21 year old, but if from the get that’s not what I want but a meaningful relationship with someone my age who isn’t that hot, I won’t feel pain or anger from not being with the young woman. That’s my poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:13 PM
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I really don’t think is true that men are uglier, just something society has teach us to believe and feel as such. The average men is more respected than you average women. That’s why they are expected to be the leader of their household. For many time they had chance to vote and were considered the foundation of societies. The working man, you know. Women were expected to be of service for the working man wherever of status or not. Men have always been at the center of society, and women vanish…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 08:59 PM
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I am not setting you should stay in a sexless relationship. I am just saying that men who are not shallow usually don’t feel bad about nor having tons of women, or think having a lots of female friends is a success, thus they are more happy with life, and feel less of a failure of their so isn’t hot or if other men are having beautiful women for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 08:56 PM
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I don’t think we are seen worthless. I fact we are seen as the “useful” gender, the “innovators”, the “thinkers”, the “solvers”, which is jut BS. Both is true that in terms of desirability wee are seen as the “ugly” gender which is also BS. Fight these stereotypes we most, like toda would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 08:43 PM
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What? why does that makes sense? that was exactly my question from the get go. Why is better to be with a man, any man, even when some of them could get resources better on their own. I don’t get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 08:40 PM
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I think guys should shift the focus of their complains. They should talk about how little attention they get regardless of how much sex they get. Is possible to get sex and is not that hard. The problems is that it requires much mor investment of time and planning, and in the end you still feel empty and unattractive. Why? Because women are not paying attention nor in wanting much in making men feel desired (because they don’t feel much desire for them). I think o wouldn’t care for sex that much…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 08:10 PM
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Yes but I have my own theory about why men are not attractive and I think It has also to do with gender stereotypes that haven’t been internalized by women like “men are ugly women are beautiful” “men should pursue and show interest” “women are to be desired men are not”. All of that rendered men unattractive in the end. Thats why women think most men are ugly which doesn’t happen in other sex preference groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 08:02 PM
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But what do you mean by struggle? Yo can be not attractive and not struggle in the sense you don’t feel about it. Take Eliot Rodger and his childhood friend. Both were uncles but his friend didn’t feel so bad about it, so Eliot felt worst even if they were in the same position. Eliot was a narcissistic psychopath who was very shallow and thus didn’t help him move on. His friend probably found a girl eventually. So in a way, his shallowness did in fact make his struggle worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 08:00 PM
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What she is trying to show in point 4 is that if you are looking for a meaningful relationship with women in general, you won’t feel bad if women aren’t fucking you. Sex would not be so high in the priorities of what makes you feel fulfilled while engaging with others, so rejection won’t be so frustrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 07:55 PM
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Yeah! I agree with all of these. We are lacking to either teach men not to be so shallow about their sexuality or make men more sexy in the eyes of women, and I think there could be some balance. But for the most part is dishonesty and predatory behavior what creates this “fear of men” which don’t help to the dating life of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 07:48 PM
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Hahaha so violent irrational believes evolved? Is just incel being entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 05:52 PM
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Attention. Feels so far as man. You don’t really get attention. Most women say is so horrible to get that amount of attention, yet I always feel a bit envious. I wonder how would it feel if it were the other way around. As guy it doesn’t feel good not having no one looking at you, but women say is awful all that attention, so who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 04:42 PM
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But how is that they are going to pay for all that if they have average earnings. Otherwise they would be attractive and not average. So comfort and security is not what average men can provide, that’s top guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 04:41 AM
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Logic? People should stop using that word that way. Logic is a formal science applied to argumentes and formal proofs. Logic can tell if an argument is valid nor if is backed up by evidence. Logic cannot be applied to things that are not arguments such as falling in love. Not only that, most people do not make whole formal arguments to decide things in the real world. Maybe the word you want to use is that men are more cold minded than women or that men use mor info and Analysis to navigate the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 02:51 PM
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But why would you get mad if you don’t they are objects?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 02:24 PM
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Income.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 06:14 AM
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You people talk as if there is no strong studious men that is strong and can be an aggressive protector. Many bad boys are not that’s triangle themselves. Yet, even this studious guys who are strong would be label as “cocky chads” by guys who think they are good persons only because they are shy like Eliot Rodger. Who would you think women would prefer? A goody two shoes who is staring, beautiful and a provider, or a douchebag who is short, skinny and has a dead end job? Yeah, exactly. That’s ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 01:20 AM
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Again, this is not true. Boring guys think all other men that are not boring are bad boys. I can tell you this because I am very boring guy who looses attractiveness in the eyes of many women because of this. That being said there are very boring guys that are motherfuckers which people classify as “nice guys” only because they act polite and like self righteous guys (many killers and abuser put this act), and there a very wild not by the books type of guys who aren’t abusers nor dangerous in an…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 01:04 AM
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Even the term bad boy tells you the original idea behind it was to point out “type 1” bad boy under your taxonomy of the term. A sadistic psychopathic pedophile, is not a bad boy; that’s a monster. I’ve never seen a woman intrinsically attracted to those characteristics. Some may find criminals attractive after they become infamous or because these women themselves have specific personalities (many times personality disorders) but women are not specifically attracted to criminal antisocial behav…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 12:54 AM
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But you say they don’t like to being alone. What does that mean? Not having a man? For what? Sexually speaking (according to you) they don’t want those men, so it wouldn’t be different than having a male friend or a female friend. I find it incongruent. Second, men are always whining about not having someone to fuck because that makes them feel lonely. Would you say men are even more scare to be alone than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 07:31 PM
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😮😮😮
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 05:53 PM
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But that is what doesn’t make sense. Why would you be with someone you don’t like? Few women do something like that. Also what they need their average hubbies for, if they don’t have money as they are average.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 03:17 PM
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Ok but they are still attracted to her average joe of a husband, aren’t they? Their preferences adapt according to their success at Dating but it adapt. So now they are with the man they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:56 PM
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Where did she whine? She is just showing it doesn’t make sense all that red pill talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:54 PM
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Exactly!! Even if is true that women change their preferences as they age, they still are into the men they settle with, as otherwise is unbearable for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:53 PM
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I find to be more common with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:15 PM
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Week I was just answering those guy which imply I only want incels to stop being trolls which is no true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:13 PM
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I don’t understand these point. No one should troll, no man or woman. No one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:09 AM
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I think FSD should be dealt the same way red pill fórums because is really bad. But that not trolling is simply put a hate group.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:04 AM
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When did I say that, I am just saying men troll more and even more against women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:58 AM
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Maybe you want to claim men do that because they have being abused by women. Is not the same Being “hurt” as being abused. For example, a rejection can hurt but is not abuse. Women respond back to fight the backlash against them. Is uncommon for women to not be kind and supportive when unprovoked. In men is more common to be that way even if unprovoked. When also tend to be less predatory. One of the resin I would rather be a women in a woman’s prison than being a man in a man’s prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:24 AM
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This idea doesn't make sense. Cheating is not define by whether something is natural to a person or not, but how it affects you partner. Is violent move that leaves people feeling betray, ignored and abuse. You want to be with many women either talk about it with you partner or don't be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:12 AM
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But that is more portably hate than being a troll. And there are hundreds of groups dedicated to hate on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:57 AM
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We also have to consider if their insults are defensive or not. Is very rare to find women out of nowhere being haters against men. Maybe some other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:55 AM
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But that’s insulting, isn’t it? Trolling is like faking being argumentative but really just trying to bother the other person, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:52 AM
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The site is only presenting a study from a university. Also, yeah, most trolls I know IRL are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:00 AM
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I liked your response. Show OP post is not clear and it responds itself by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:34 PM
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The weird thing is that you think is common for people to match that description. Most ordinary people have interests, dreams, specific talents that even if not top, those are there. Of course there are plain people but lots of average people are not that plain. Ordinary people are simple not extraordinary, they are not a lazy description of people. Most people I know are not extraordinary yet most people are more complex than just this lame description.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:35 PM
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Hahahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:32 PM
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I understand. I do think how women perceive your physique changes depending on your status and personality. But why perceive men as ugly I’m the first place? Let’s say I fall for my girlfriend due to her personality. And I go: now I see my girlfriend and I think she is beautiful, that’s because I like personalities a hers is amazing. She looks physically amazing now because I am in love.- And the someone replies- but she is beautiful to begin with, didn’t you price at first? Regardless of women …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:56 PM
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Yes totally, but that didn’t change the narrative which is odd to begin with. Why gay men don’t have this type of bars give about other gay men? Why lesbian don’t express that way about women? I know you can be attractive by being creative or intelligent, but why our looks at so underrated? Imagine if we men talked about women they way that talk about us. “Oh why most women look so unattractive? I find like only 5% physically attractive; women are intrinsically uglier than men; but that doesn’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:22 PM
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Yeah that’s good news. Although they are also famous. I don’t usually see that in every day circumstances. What would happen if we make haber y cavil face to look more feminine would that take away from him or not? And thus still do not answer, should we use makeup to hide are masculine features or to make them more prominent? Maybe there is something deeper. Why women talk so badly about mens looks? Why they find so few attractive? Is it makeup? Because that doesn’t happen with gay men, they do…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 02:56 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MakeupAddiction/comments/mxb4r5/my_no_makeup_makeup_with_some_masculine/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Is this what you mean?? I can see his face shape being a little more masculine after makeup. Although he made his eyes to look less sharp and his nose to look a bit less stronger. So I don’t know, is masculine features beautiful or ugly? How should we use makeup? To hide them or to highlight them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 02:11 PM
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Yes. But I want to know, if we make our faces to look more masculine, in other words, we use make up to highlight masculinity, would that make us look better or worst? Do women like them? Cause most attractive men I know have soft features and whenever I see a man with make up is use precious to make his face look softer nor more masculine. Do women want us to use make to look more like them or to look more like us? That’s my question. Or a subsidiary question. What makes a male face ugly? Cause…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 02:02 PM
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But James Charles is almost copying women’s beauty model. Is there a way to be beautiful and not looking like that model?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:53 PM
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But if we have to use makeup is to hide are masculine features or to make it more out there? That’s why I don’t think make up would work. I think what we could do with is make our faces look more feminine (which explain why so few men look good with make up) and hide the best our masculine features. In the end, I think the issue is women don’t like mens faces that much. If we were to use make up to make our faces look stronger women would think we look even uglier. I think that’s the reason men …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:52 PM
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Do you think women like angularity? I feel like women like more femenino features. That’s why I don’t think make up will work. It looks good on femenino looking guys but in guys with strong features it exacerbate the features women don’t like.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:45 PM
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I think that’s an interesting point. But In all realness, to look good with make up, are we men suppose to imitate womens features or make our feature to look more dysmorphic?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:42 PM
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😮😮😮😮 tssss who can answer this one? I think this explain what women mean by low standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:02 PM
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You get more experience on how to satisfy your partner by actually sleeping with your partner exclusively than “banging to destruction” 100 “bitches” one time. If some women don’t like virgins is all because a irrational stereotype of what is a “worthy man”. There is not much science behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 06:45 PM
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This argumentation is to complex for something that it is to simple. IF A MAN IS NOT HAPPY WIHR A WOMEN HE MOST LEAVE NO MATHER THE REASONS. If your need and desires are not compatible with that of you partner you can compromise yours to some extent but not beyond you own happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:10 PM
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That men want to pay doesn’t mean they are not doing it, deep down, due to the stiff expectation of what’s to be a “real man”. The traditional dating role show y directional interest, thus I don’t most men would choose it if there wasn’t the social expectation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:49 AM
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This guy probably doesn’t want to date you. And you are married so I guess no one except your husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 12:40 AM
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I agree with that. I am just saying is you opinion that there is something wrong with asking for arabice with meme ers of you family. That only your standard which don’t apply to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 10:45 PM
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Is just your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 09:50 PM
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Is depending on a case to case basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 09:47 PM
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OP is bad in his own right, and he would be probably in the same spot even without that advice. So you think is not good idea to be a “nice man”?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 09:40 PM
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I never said that. But is nether necessarily bad nor that the reason why others are bas a dating. You are just assuming that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 09:38 PM
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Yet many women do depending on the nature of the relationships with their parents, and while it could be risky to ask for advice as your parents may want to tell you what to do, you are also doing a false equivalence between asking for an advice considering people you trust with being a mamas boy or girl, when is not bounded to be the way you frase it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 09:34 PM
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For not reason at all, as he is likely very young, but is common even for adults to discus their love life with others including their parents. And I think is probably more common in women than men. I don’t what you claim is much of a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 09:27 PM
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Yeah and that is also false to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:39 PM
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So, OP’s mother advice was actually wrong about what women like?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:28 PM
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Yet people of all ages and context can give you advice an each can be of benefit for specific aspects. You are acting like no one ever has asked parents for dating advice or that it is imposible for them to give good advice, and that’s just not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:13 PM
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Hahahaha I don’t agree with OP post but, come on, this is ridiculous. Of course parents can understand new forms of interacting within younger generations, yet is common for all societies to pass on values on how to relate to others and to learn to handle feeling within social situations. You would get this teachings as young as toddler form your parents, that’s how we start understanding social norms. Now, OP, you can’t blame you mother for you short comings and not being able to adapt your per…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:44 PM
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The first problem within a line of problems associated with this type of endless nonsense, is that you asume there is a clear distinction between what is a bad boy and a nice guy. So, this leaves you vulnerable to confirmation biases. What I have notice is that women like different type of men. Second, bad boys who are attractive usually have other attributes that are sexy. They are handsome, interesting, adventurous and fun. Being criminally inclined is not going to turn you into a sex symbol i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:34 PM
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I don’t think virginity is a problem. Maybe loneliness. And I don’t think not feeling appreciated is a male issue but rather the issue of many person. But the point is that those people do not over obsessed with virginity but with being accepted. We can intervine to help someone be included in society but not to give people sex or relationships. That’s something personal. I have empathy for them but I don’t see virginity specifically as a public health issue. Now, depression or anxiety or mental…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:29 PM
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But again. Virgin. As if worst to be a virgin than being lonely. I have empathy for people who feel lonely or not, and I think we can do a great deal to better our communities for more inclusion. But my first advice for these person is to not over obsessed about being virgin. Better focus on community, marginalization and discrimination as a whole. Being virgin is not even a bad thing. And if women don’t want you, why is that? What’s the problem? Is it connected to some systemic issue? I wonder …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:05 PM
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Well these people that shame you for that are very wrong. I think there could be support but in other spheres that are not the internet. Mental health professionals, real friendly optimistic communities (even in the internet but that are interested in networking with people that is alike, not just hate on others and each other), social critique. A lot of people feel lonely an is a common trope of late capitalism, and materialistic societies like the US. Is not a male issue, though. It has to do …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 08:31 PM
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Prostitutes? I don’t think that would enough to calme even the ones who want only sex with whomever they want. But no having love an attention from still is no going to make you misogynistic or violent. Many women feel lonely too, that they cannot achieve nice relationships with men, but you don’t see them being crazy about it. They may complain but in a none violent way. I don’t have problem with hearing out a guy who feels sad that he is still single. No problem with that. But that’s still do …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 07:49 PM
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In the case of incel no one is sending them to those extremes but themselves. Is the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 07:31 PM
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Yess!! Is men who have to say it. For example, they need to be very clear that having the role to pay for showing interest is just not right, and change that view which is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 07:30 PM
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Yes. They are now in happy relationships because they did not over obsessed with sex. It wasn’t a problem to begin with. They didn’t think it was anything worn with them just because there were getting laid at young age. They just continue their lives. And at some point women get interested in them. Not many, but the sufficient amount for them to have relationships. They are just no unidimensional people like incel who think their only value is to not be virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 07:29 PM
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They are treated like humans. Humans are treated to be responsible of their violent believes and prejudice ideas. Don’t have that and people would help to be content with yourself. Other than that, the beta thing people can do for you is to denounce you to not Become worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 07:26 PM
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Yeah exactly what happened with nazis. Jews were the ones who turn them into nazis. Zero accountability. No having sex is in no ways justifiable reason to become violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 07:24 PM
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And what is that happened to these boy, you ask. They got radicalized by crazy hate ideologies like fascist had too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:16 PM
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Yeah exactly, just like nazi. They were sweet babies one day, that doesn’t erase personal responsibility. And eve people who become nazis experience some nasty things, that doesn’t make their ideology any more acceptable. That is why I am saying, treat them, don’t give them sex, sex won’t help them stop being crazy, therapy will.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:14 PM
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When did I say they were born that way? I am saying that they have radical views on women that really are not about sex. I know men who are not particularly good a getting laid that don’t hate women or talk about them that way. These people are violent, because there is no real casual link between not having sex and becoming violent or a misogynist. Their issue is another issue, is not that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:07 PM
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Yeah you are assuming that the claims that men with these issues are not misogynistic or have very deranged view on sex and relationships, which have been proven again and again. Lots of incel have views on women that are worst than some centuries ago. And you can see their rage cause instead of talking about loneliness they talk about rape, murder, pedophilia, which shows you power is a big part of what they want. Do they need psychological attention? Yes of course, to stop thinking what they t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:57 PM
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Electrochemically? That’s all of human behavior, yet you won’t see people making that case for pedophiles. And that our brains control our behavior, that haven’t change the philosophical assumption that humans have agency, responsibility, or that a lot of our behaviors is a byproduct of our socialization. So, yeah, I think a lot of male sexuality is really more about power than true desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:39 PM
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I think you are totally right. Is a simple unimportant issue compared with others. Although I think some of the issues women face are related to toxic masculinity. To fight toxic masculinity it has been proposed to construct masculinities, and in that venue, not paying for dinners should be part of that new masculinity. The paying for dinners part makes no sense for example. You may pay for dinners for you friends here and there, but overall it is not expected nor your friends would measure your…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:14 PM
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You could do the same with your friend. Would you defend your male Friend from a fight you know your would lose? I’ve seen many men do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:11 AM
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I can’t relate to anything you are saying. May female friends usually give solutions to problems. Share a lot of hobbies and are very knowledgeable. Finally, would you defend a little child from an stranger sexually harassing them? Would you do it for a person you don’t know? I don’t see why women should give you pussy in order for you to help in some instances. Obviously, I think slaps women should help in some situations even if things get physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 09:18 PM
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Hahahahaha well maybe in some cases is a feeling/connection thing hahaha. But what’s is true is that lesbian tend to see beauty in many women and straight women do not see it in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 09:23 PM
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I think is just an stereotype we have accepted an internalized. You just need to change your tinder adjustments to “looking for men” and you would see that the same face, the same body, fashion decisions, and other visual aspects are interpreted entiérrele different by gay men. Women have just internalized the idea the men aren’t beautiful and aren’t’ desirable, and act accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 08:44 PM
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But how is that lesbian don’t think most women are ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 08:38 PM
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Hahahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:36 AM
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Well, or a failed attempt at seduction, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:34 AM
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But what you mean by “I used my logic to realize my underweight body was holding me back”?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 02:11 AM
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Hahahaha what was your logic? People use that word to lightly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 02:00 AM
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Ok. Well, we have differ points of view on some issues. Mainly nature vs nurture debate, what is the fair distribution of wealth an acknowledgment, and whether we should or we shouldn’t intervine to change social behavior, but I want to say is, I know where you are coming from and that I know my perspectives are weak and lack a lot of support. And of course, women should go for the men they like even if that is the top 20% or not. Finally, I don’t want to make it seem like I am opposed to self i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 01:55 PM
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I agree in general with you. I just think that the praises the average worker receives are way lower than fair, and the attention average men receive is way lower than natural. That’s our differences in point of view. Of course not all people are equal and of course some people deserve more celebration and rewards than others, but how much more or how much less before something is off. The devil is in the details.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 01:32 PM
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But I get where you are coming from. Are you red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 01:06 PM
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I think is awesome people date according to their looks. I am not suggesting beautiful women should date average looking man. You people are not hearing. The thing is that even the average women is desire by some other women at a distant. Maybe two or three. The average guy doesn’t have that. Doesn’t have people looking at them. That’s what I think can be change. Is not about giving average a guy a chance with top women, is about attention, celebration, interest. As a matter of fact is more prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 01:02 PM
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I don’t think so. Men also consider the average girl to look better than than what the average guy s considered. Is a type of celebration. And for what o see in Reddit, men get much much more compliments about their looks form Men than form women. The point is we celebrate our ways of life’s, our ways of love, our dreams, our values. All which are common to humans. Commonality spent mens we can value things that mean something to us. Like family, and love and culture. Those are things which comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 12:46 PM
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I have never heard a lesbia claiming women a looks on general are mediocre or not worthy of attention as I’ve heard many times forme straight girls. I’ve heard many lesbian say most women are so beautiful. I don’t know if women appreciation of mens look can be change, but that is my suggestion. And I think is fair. We are stalking of new masculinities. Why can we include in this social shift, the idea that men are beautiful. Most of them. Just like women. Is possible. We are advancing this idea …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 12:40 PM
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I thing the looks of the ordinary girl are celebrated much more than that of the average guy. I think is totally worthy to give it a shot. You can’t change biology, but there is no reason to asume that something that may be a social construct is based on biology. Great achievements have been made by opposing things that were supposed to be rooted in biology. Feminism being one example of that change. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with averageness. You can celebrate ordinary stuff because …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 12:30 PM
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Maybe, but why then the appreciation of their beauty is bigger? Cause is clear that average men are not seen as looking good enough, but lesbian women are seeing as nice looking regardless of being butch or not a regardless of staring conversation or not. A lesbian may enter a bar and immediately feel sprouted by beautiful women, while straight women hardly consider to be mor than two hoy guys at each time they enter a bar, for example. And finally, if is true that what makes us unattractive is …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 12:28 PM
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Many lesbiana don’t use make up and still more interesting to lesbian in general than you average guy is to straight women. The problem is that I think is socially based. That men aren’t showed as erotic, desirable, as sources of pleasure, enticing, sexy, nice to look at. Change that and you will see the response would be different. Maybe even gender roles would become less strict. Women would start pursing men and all of the sudden the average guys has two or three secret admirers, he starts be…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 12:02 PM
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But lesbian may not be hornier, but still think the average lesbian looks good, which doesn’t happen with straight women. And is not jumping to bed, is about rebuilding the way we perceived the looks of the average men, which I think are underestimated in our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 11:42 AM
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Ok I see. You think is common for you to see cute guys out there? Is there like a pest run of cuteness for guys? I feel I can see beauty in ordinary looking girls. Do you think you can do the same? See beauty in ordinary looking men? In the other hand, if your self esteem was low from not getting hit on, I guess you can see how some men feel about the same. Is very uncommon to be hit on by women as a men. And even when you approach the most common outcome is to not be responded with the same kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 11:39 PM
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No, i was thinking in the context of the controlled study, no do pictures in dating sites. The difference in response in the controlled studies. And men do show some skin in dating sites. And no all women show skin and even then, I feel your ordinary girl gets more attention Thant your ordinary men. It may be that women take better care of their appearance, but even clean fashionable guys don’t get that much attention in my opinion. But I can be mistaken.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 09:27 PM
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I think most women are taking those sensible pictures too. And you didn’t checked the other article, where straight women have a very low response to naked men (their preferred sex), compared to other groups
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 09:06 PM
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Let me see is if find it, it was easier to find the whole article some years ago. PD. Here is an example. Let me see if I can track the ful article about the data. Is not a rigorous study so I acknowledge is far from proving the idea. https://www.quora.com/An-OK-Cupid-study-found-that-women-think-that-80-of-men-are-unattractive-How-do-you-feel-about-this-and-what-does-that-tell-you-about-women-and-society#&gid=1&pid=1
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:45 PM
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I was thinking about the very much questioned okcupid trends data.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:42 PM
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I mean just seeing something they like. I don’t think most of are liked at visual level. Although most of us are capable of starting relationships with women. I don’t think there red pill or black pill ideas, is just fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 08:30 PM
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I know what you said. I am just asking how would you explain gay men do noticing average gay men who don’t do any of the things straight girls do? And I think there are good reasons to think that you average straight man would get a much better rating from a group of gay men than from a group of straight girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:59 PM
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I think that totally counts as attention. I feel that this doesn’t happen as much as it should for the average guy but is true it could be thy I am just unaware. I do think men are out there as gay men give much more attention to plain looking men than straight women, though. Relevant study where it can be appreciated women’s response to male naked body is low. https://scholar.google.es/scholar?hl=es&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=meredith+chivers&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&t=1667504511520&u=%23p%3DKILrcuFsf9YJ
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 07:30 PM
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No but I am not saying that. I don’t even think the problem is about fucking more. Is about attention. And I feel the same things are not Being judge equally for both genders. Even naked bodies of men and women perceived differently. Also I think the faces. But you are right, the differential usage of make up may be factor in this differences, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 06:50 PM
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I see. Although I’ve heard many women like bears precisely because hide away some facial features. Cause, being honest, most guys don’t have precious little chip monkey chins and noses, soft lips or so, that k-pop artist have.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 05:31 PM
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I coming from the concept of implicit biases like the ones coming from sexism, racism, homophobia, classism. We all have them. I think that there is an implicit bias that men are just less physically attractive stemming from sexism and patriarchy. Patriarchy has tried to equate men with power, and in the process men have been painted as having nothing to do with beauty, sexiness, desirability and pleasure. Men usually are constructed as the less attractive sex. This renders men not repulsive but…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 05:11 PM
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Ok ok. I get it now. I also think men wanting validation is acknowledge. My only difference is that I think for that validation to feel real we need to make masculine strong features to be perceived as beautiful (not just powerful). But I get it, that premise you don’t think is truth, you think masculine facial features are considered attractive by many women, and since I don’t have the hard data to prove it, I have to agree I am just speculating. There are various tens of papers showing women d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:37 PM
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So you think only soft features are attractive? That is my worry, as there are more men with stronger features than women, which could explain the lack of interest people have in men at the physical level. On that view, men would be just uglier than women for having stronger features. Oddly, this doesn’t happen with gay men, where you can have both soft and strong features and still be considered beautiful. As a guy with very masculine features I do feel women are not as much into strong feature…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:13 PM
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I see. But I feel K-pop stars kind of look more feminine in their facial features, so I see it as a further proof of physical sexiness being associated with women. To be physically hot as a man means looking the least away from women possible. At least when it comes to facial features. And with criminals, I wonder if it is notoriety alone which explain their attractiveness. Is common for many healthy even good looking men to go unnoticed until they won notoriety. So, I’m iffy about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:00 PM
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I think men could be regarded as more sexy though, and society doesn’t seem very aware of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:39 PM
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Well, I do think certain live styles are more compatible with younger people. My friend is completing his PhD in philosophy of physics (he is a physicist) and that given, he used to date many women in their 20s, because, in the end, he had more in common with a girl studying her masters degree than with a 30yr old executive. It made sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:28 AM
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Is rather uncommon for young women to like men older that ten years their senior. Most are looking someone within three year gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:25 AM
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I agree with you. I think age gaps are wrong to a certain point. I think after 30/35 may be creepy but not wrong. Is just that the older we get the less attractive we become. But a women in her late 30s can truly consent to be with a man way older than her. The problem is that older men think that gives them permission to hit on every woman that is of “good age” and that’s not the case. Yet I don’t see something intrinsically problematic after 30/35 yr old to date much older. With people in thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 09:49 PM
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Yeah well is not that bad but is pushing a little bit. I know a couple at they seem to be perfect fit. He met her when she was 21 and he was 28. Not that bad I think, and now he is 30 and she 23. I think it depends on various factors. But a guy in his 50s looking for a girl 20 yr old is pushing things. So thing that is truth is that you would considered to be creepy not matter what as you age. A lot of why we feel disgusted by old people dating young people has to do with the disgust we feel for…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 09:42 PM
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That is what I don’t know. I think the problem with early 20 yr olds is that they do still think like kids, most of them. I don’t know in di caprio’s case as a lot of them are powerful “kids” but those are the most problematics age gap relationships; when one is 20 something and the other is way above 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 09:38 PM
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But I think he made a good argument. If dads are right, what’s the difference between men dating their own age and dating older men? But I think eagle bill has the burden of proof, as most people would prefer their daughters dating their own age, so why should we asume is fine for a man 44 to date some girl who is 18?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:45 PM
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When I was 24 I thought 18 girl were too young for me, but now I don’t think is that’s bad. But what would you think of a 34 yr old guy with a teen or someone 21 yr old. Something is weird. Like you are not letting young people be young. I don’t think is necessarily that problematic as you grow, though. The truth is most young women won’t date someone 10 yr older than them, let’s be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:39 PM
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I think age gap are considered bad for good reasons and for bad reasons. Good reasons is that very young women don’t need to date their dads. They are in an age that are still in need of paternal figures and very older men may prey on that or so I think. The bad reasons ls that women see old men as ugly men praying on the beauty of younger women. For example, when people thinks is wrong for a 52 yr old dorky guy to date a hot 37 yr old woman which looks younger. At that point, even if we find it…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:34 PM
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Ok. I believe the same. Is a self control issue. Is just that many women seem to have no temptation whatsoever. I wonder if is a thing some straight woman experience or if lesbian too. Do some guy (gay and straight) experience it? Is just difficult to relate to that experience for me although I have never cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:10 PM
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I always find that strange, difficult to relate to. I believe in commitment. You sacrifice some things to be with a person you can have a life with, but to have all other women just becoming invisible, I have never experienced that. I wonder if that happens with lesbian couples too; that after stating a relationship all other women become unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:00 PM
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Now that I think so, I have never received a compliment from a girl that is not having sex with me. Maybe twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:35 PM
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Exactly! Go bond with your loneliness MF 🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 11:15 PM
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I not convinced. For example lesbian women don’t down play women’s beauty as much as straight women downplay men’s beauty. So if women are less visually stimulated, and that explains lack of appreciation go men’s looks, why lesbian do think most women look very good? Now, it could be that women don’t take care of themselves, but that wouldn’t explain why men who do take care of their appearance are still underrated compared to women on their level of self care. Finally, men’s standard may be low…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:37 PM
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🤣🤣🤣🤣 so it will be against you nature to not be lonely. This is why women can’t relate to your problems. They can be reduce to: I don’t get enough girls to fuck. Any other solution to feel connected to people is dismissed. “I can only connect with women while my penis is inside them”. That’s why are you are so lonely hahahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:13 PM
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Is funny cause the article disproves some of red pill ideas. Most women having only one partner. Student women having an increase in sexual inactivity. 19% of women without sexual activity in the past year. So, using black pill logic, a lot of femcels who aren’t bitching about men not wanting them. It cites various factors as possible explanations for men having less sex. Lower desirability is just one among many.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 11:59 AM
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🤣🤣🤣🤣 exactly. How is it that more women can be in heterosexual relationship than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 11:30 AM
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“I don’t want to play the Marxist” 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Believe me, daring wasn’t in his mind when was talking about classes hahahaha. Most men could be in a relationship if they wanted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 11:28 AM
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Ok. Were they hot as young? Did they rejected the incels? What pre era he of women did they represent? In my case, many women who didn’t see me, ignored me or rejected me, are now happy. And you know what? That is ok because I’ve done the same to other women. There is people that is not for us and people we are not for, and that’s ok. There is no point in inventing gloom destinies as if they apply to most women, when is not really the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:55 PM
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You can overlooked them when it comes to relationships. My point is that others won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 06:52 PM
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Maybe, but for what is can see that still doesn’t mean most would be married or able to do so, so the revenge thing would not realized in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 05:37 PM
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Ok. I am not following you up. So why is that relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 03:40 PM
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Yes. For both genders and most women would get married in their 20 early 30s and this revenge dream would never realized.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 03:36 PM
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Do you think hot women who party around in their teens and early 20s aren’t getting married? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 03:27 PM
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So men don’t need women? So why to bitch about being a virgin? I don’t get it? Men sound as, if not more, desperate than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 02:29 PM
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Is funny cause red pill would create this impossible scenario for men. They would say “women are by nature hypergamous, thus, they are not attracted to the average men”. So it makes sense women don’t go for what don’t do it for them, right? Then they’ll go, but it would come a time where tables would turn and most of them would remain single”. Ok, but that your point, right? Women are better single than with men they don’t like. “No, but they would marry a beta male, second class, not the one th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 02:26 PM
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We are taught that sex is the pleasurable thing and they women are just incredibly erotic and delightful. Society my play with your head, but is really the heart which is difficult to stop listening to. There is emotion attached to how we see the world and yeah, to men, the world looks lustful. It really shook you when you see and attractive woman and More if it is an erotic performance. So, is like asking men to forget about one of their biggest dreams. In any case, it should be done. We should…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 01:57 PM
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Bro, why’s you are saying sounds so weird. First, it seems that you think you can’t be truly love because you think you could never match to other men. Then, it seems you are comfortable with a women with less “lovers” just because she would not notice your mediocrity, or that’s how it sounds. “If she don’t know any better she would be satisfied with me”. That’s exactly how it sounds un my mind. Third, your example is compatible with a woman who has dated a lot yet remains a virgin than with a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:54 PM
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Could you give an example of what you mean. Sometimes women are considered rude when they don’t correspond the attention men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 03:05 PM
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Interesting. What do you think about the week stablished gender non-specifically response of sexual arousal to sexual stimuli in straight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:36 PM
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I wonder what the lesbian consume on that front 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:20 PM
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I am not sure. I feel society has created this image of the sexy men, who has money and status. I feel menú women do in fact fell in love or with lust with successful man because that’s what society construct as sexy about men. I really feel men are perceived very differently according to their status. And is not uncommon to see changes in their sex appeal as their status increases or decreases in real time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:14 PM
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A los to unpack there. Many of the people speaking here are women, and they are saying they like kinky stuff but just with their partners. That’s what they are saying. Your experience may be more or less telling but I don’t know and doesn’t seem universal. Then you go with the dildos when that has nothing to do with sleeping with a bunch of men. No one denied women have big libidos, many times, higher than men. Just that they don’t find attractive many men, fewer men than the portion of women me…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:04 PM
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Well I don’t know how would change anything, when various women are saying they are not as interested in that I’m this sub alone. But sure, I am not sure if that statement is true or if at some point in history the interest in casual sec of one gender is going to match the interest of the other gender. Is possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 09:06 PM
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So your explanation is that there are few men attractive out there? Or that there are too many horny men that women become picky? None of that is good explanation because it doesn’t explain why women aren’t as attracted to men in the first place. If women were as interested in casual sex as men, then there would be a lot of fucking for every body. And if women were so horny for men, even if they had many chances their standard would drop or those of men would rise, so it would end up equal for e…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 07:19 PM
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Women’s sexual fantasies are about monogamy. That’s what she is saying. They won’t get satisfied with fucking any number of men in kinky shit. So their fantasies are no fulfilled by what you or other men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:41 PM
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Is true, but in all fairness very few women are fit themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:37 PM
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So true!! Although I think most men have charm is just that most men are also percibe as physically ugly. The only reason most men get partners, is because, in general, most men learn how to be seductive. Otherwise they have never being notice to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 01:01 PM
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First of all, I feel women biggest sexual fantasy is being in a loyal loving relationship with a man, so I don’t think they are less frustrated than men. That’s what I have picked on with the women I know, most of them are frustrated with men just like we are with them. Second, women’s sexuality feels a bit more balanced and less vulnerable to leaving you feeling empty. The problem is that they are not as lustful as we are 😰. Sometimes I wish I wasn’t interested in nothing sexual at all hahahaha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 12:55 PM
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Exactly! And they can’t imagine such person exists because they know, they themselves are just hunting for people to exploit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:50 PM
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I understand. I just don’t particularly like the business allegory. I just thinks there are a lot of projects you need people for, that go beyond having a business for profit. In all of those cases, though, it may important to have a self reliant partner that can help you. In romantic relationships is more important specially in our current economic context as couples are expected to be our first network line at dealing with life within society.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 05:48 PM
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I don’t think relationships are business transactions, though. But everything else you are saying I think is good. Men should expect more from women at the financial level. And men should be comfortable just offering sexual enjoyment. I know is hard because many women don’t desire men that much. But that’s the point. I want to have sex, I want to be with someone who wants the same, not someone who is giving it up for something else. In that I agree with you. I want sex, I offer sex. Take it or l…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:35 PM
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That makes more sense, but is obvious to me. You say, ok I am going to use the bathroom, and people won’t get offended by that; but if you say I need to take a massive shit, well… That doesn’t mean you cannot say. You know I am interested in something casual. Or I am sexually attracted, are you down? We can see if they’re is something more but I do want this and that. For example I had women telling men, yes I don’t want that, because they really didn’t wanted it (or so I think) and women who we…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:27 PM
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More or less as many women maintain very abusive one sided friendships with men that are attracted to them. I don’t think the friends one is A real thing. In part because you can just take your distance. Ok she is not interested, well then I would stop the courtship process which includes treating that woman as any other friend. There is a considerable gap between what you do for person you are pretending and what you do for friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:20 PM
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Women should also be honest about their attractions to men. For example, not accepting dates from men they cannot see as attractive whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:16 PM
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You can just be honest and not date a woman who is not interest in you sexually within the first couple of dates. This is true just like they have the right to reject you because they are not interested in casual sex. Why would you like to sleep with someone you are lying and using without regards for their person? You guys talk about women like they were fish telling you to wait until they came at shore to be fished. But these are people you are sharing something good with, not prey.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:15 PM
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Being honest is not about being effective. Imagine a politician talking like you. A president for example. Why are you running for office? Oh that’s a trap. Because if I say that I want to make my self rich you won’t vote for me. It can be effective only for the the top public administrators. Voters who want honest president are a trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:00 PM
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The problem with people like you is that they think the point in any action is to get away with what you want. The point of being honest is creating a society of trust in which people can feel safe pursuing sex and/or relationships. She doesn’t want that. Well, let her be and be sure not to be shame for your own desires but respect others people wishes. And there would always be people that agree with your terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:56 PM
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👏👏👏👏👏. Imagine using that logic in reverse. Then is ok for women to just play men. This men are crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:52 PM
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This is meaningless as many men think they deserve a hot young women at 40 when they are as broke as a 20 yr old. Bro, most likely, is not gonna happen for you. You don’t look good and not rich enough to compensate it. Just date the what is at your reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:18 PM
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Is funny cause after I told you the first time , even if being annoying, you weren’t satisfied with the answer yet you could have just checked it with one google search. Just with frogs, you have more than ten. The same for birds and fish. So? There you go friend. This can be summarize to “99% of the species on the planet having a bigger, stronger male” is absolutely false.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:08 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humpback_anglerfish https://nationalzoo.si.edu/animals/whites-tree-frog https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_shark https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_whale https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_jacana https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotted_hyena https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_mole-rat https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boa_constrictor https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_eagle https://petkeen.com/male-or-female-macaw/ A zoologist here. Please. Don’t ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:53 PM
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No. I’m not mad is just that women being allegedly more beautiful won’t explain why women don’t find men physically attractive. But to each their own. Is just not a good explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:39 PM
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Check my edit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:30 PM
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Maybe. Wonder lesbian do if fact think women look so good and sexy even if “women are less visual”. What is clear to me is that all groups think they preferred sex looks much sexier than the other, except for straight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:29 PM
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10? 🤣🤣🤣 are you kidding. In almost all frogs for example hahahaha. In most snakes. In most lizards. Most birds of prey. Blue whale. Bro, there most be hundreds if not thousands of example 🤣🤣🤣 You really make me laugh. Edit: Most frogs, most raptors, most sharks, abysm fish, naked mole rat, hyena, jacana Africans, ara macaw (most parrots), boa constrictor, blue whale. You are just ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:22 PM
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10? 🤣🤣🤣 are you kidding. In almost all frogs for example hahahaha. In most serpents. In most lizards. Most birds of prey. Blue whale. Bro, there most be hundreds if not thousands of example 🤣🤣🤣 You really make me laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:16 PM
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So they are more visually oriented yet they don’t go for the best looking sex? Obviously if you like men then, you will look at their features a think: oh shit, that’s sexier. But seems straight women think the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:45 AM
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Gay men find men beautiful. It seems is just straight women who haven’t got the memo. You usually see the physical appearance of the gender you are attracted to as more endearing. Wonder where the reason for this underestimation comes from
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:54 AM
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Wrong. Don’t say things you haven’t checked. In lots species male and female have the same size and strength. But in most invertebrates were there is a size difference the female is bigger and stronger because it needs more energy to produce eggs. Take spiders and mantis. Now there are many examples of insects were the male is bigger. In many reptiles female and male have the same size and power. Also in fish. In amphibians usually the female is bigger. In birds is also common for male and femal…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:41 AM
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So how is that beauty equates being attractive? If that was the case no one would like men. Or is it that women don’t fin masculine features more attractive than feminine ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:23 AM
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Ok that makes sense in its own, is just that it has nothing to do with all what you said previously.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 11:27 PM
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I mean…ok hahaha. Makes no much sense again, but all right.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 11:14 PM
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Most things has nothing to do with my life. This prohibits me from discussing it? And what if these men were raping women? Also, are you implying that the first at wrong to discuss these men were the women complaining about their sexual attitudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 11:10 PM
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Oh bro, nothing of what you are saying makes sense. I don’t know if is futile or not, but in this case the example does makes sense. Maybe what is futile is talking about them but not to give an example about them when you are specifically talking about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 11:04 PM
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I don’t get it. I really feel you are missing what is your message in this case. He literally is speaking about an example that is specifically about men with massive power. He literally can’t use the average men for this case. Imagine saying, super rich people shouldn’t be critique about X, look this example about retail workers. I just don’t get why this is a problem when OP is referring to situation that involves powerful men specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 10:16 PM
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I don’t understand this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 10:05 PM
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I always taught this argument is a bit ludicrous. Is like saying, rich people should expect to be robbed. Why trying to avoided? If the “HVM” wants to have any woman, why not tell his woman to get go-you have to share me if you want me- They are obviously manipulating women into thinking they won’t cheat. Does something that is wrong stops being wrong of the victim was gullible? And also, how this didn’t apply to women too? If she is so hot, shouldn’t you expect she is going to cheat or leave yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:23 PM
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Men do that to gender roles. If the gender roles where reversed and women were the ones supposed to approach, they would do the same and men would hold on. We should compare this to for example lesbian clubs. Do women in there get hit on only once? I bet a few times. And since they are also doing some effort, I bet the twelve interactions still happen. End gender roles, you will see the change.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 02:10 AM
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Both double standard should disappear, to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:30 AM
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I don’t get this post? But every body is speculating here, right? There is no proof men are uglier to begin with, which is what everybody is speculating with. I just give my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 04:53 PM
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On that you got me, is more speculation and philosophizing. And Little bit of gender critic theory. I don’t know for sure if desire is socially constructed. I don’t know, but kind of feel, women don’t see men as physically attractive for the most part. Is very uncommon fire men to be chalked out, called handsome, seen. And my guess is that women a taught to not watch them as gay men check out men (of various levels of beauty) and lesbian do check out women, a lot, and think women in general are …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 04:47 PM
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🙌🙌👏👏👏👊👊 finally someone putting this senseless idea where it belongs. The trash. Is just not truth. There is not point to discuss any of this using false premises.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:54 PM
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What personality traits are important to you? Are they conectes with status seeking or independent form it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:48 PM
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But that’s my point, we are talking about subjective attraction nor objective perspective. For example, I know Henry Cavil is more beautiful than my girlfriend, in the great scheme of things. And more beautiful than any woman I have dated for that matter. Yet I find ordinary looking women to look more attractive than him because his features, as objectively as beautiful as they can be, don’t make it for me. Those traits don’t tingle my cords and, subjectivity speaking, I find women features to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 12:02 PM
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Still my point. Why weren’t attracted to an ethnicity to begin with? why? Because it is an uglier ethnicity but biology override that fact? Most of the time you don’t like that ethnicity because you’ve been taught to look a it without physical attractiveness not because they are objectively less attractive. Why women think men are not nice to look at for the 90%? Because women haven’t been taught to look at men with desire. I mean, women would fuck them still, but they would match their sexual d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 11:44 AM
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The thing is, attractiveness is a property that by definition cannot be inherent. You need someone to feel attracted to you to be attractive. Maybe we can say they have softer looks or look cuter, I don’t know, even then that sounds a bit subjective. But let me put it this way: Why gay men find men more attractive than straight women? You can do it yourself. Change your adjustments in tinder, or whatever, to looking for guys and the response would be completely different. Or even, talk to your f…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 12:24 PM
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So you Haven’t had any option, is that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 11:47 PM
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So if people at that age fuck attractive of the oposite member then it is you problem, no every one else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 11:46 PM
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You are just radicalized. Many women don’t start having sex at that young age neither. You just believe what you want to believe when there is no proof of what you are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 11:45 PM
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No. I wasn’t attractive. Yet I get two girlfriends and plenty of dates. It happens to most people and it would probably happen to you. There is always some few women that would like you. That’s how most men get girlfriends. Not all the women they want by any stretch, but is just not truth that 90% of men would remain single for the rest of their life. It is just not true. You are just basing your ideas on your own struggles at a very young age. Is not that uncommon to be a virgin at 22, and you …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 09:49 PM
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You use the word were? Do you know for a fact they continue to be that? Only five were sexually active, at what? 16 yr of age? In my high school that was also true. Many weren’t sexually active but they pretend they were. They just weren’t mad about women many of whom were also sexually inactive. Little by little my friends started losing their virginity, me being one of the last to do so. It wouldn’t be objective for me to denied that I met hundred of guys with girlfriends at some point during …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 09:34 PM
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Are you are virgin? Out of this guys in college? Nobody has girlfriends. Are we talking about five guys? 10? Or seven thousand? Hahaha Come on. Lay that out for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 09:16 PM
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Again. How many of them? 80 out of the 100 men you know? 10? How many? You are probably 16. At that age many men and women haven’t lost their virginity. Is fucking normal. But lay the numbers out for us? Considering not only teenagers who will lost their virginity in a couple of years. It is a gigantic exaggeration.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 09:13 PM
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And these guys think a women with more than three men in their dating history is too much. Is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 08:57 PM
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You are probably twelve then. I don’t have any idea of what you are talking about. In which world you live in??
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 08:54 PM
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Ok. Lest make an exercise. Think of all the men you know. How many of them have had sex? How many of them have girlfriends? I bet there is a good change that your immediate surroundings are representative samples of the population as a whole. For example. I’m 34. I have a girlfriend. All my fiends have a girlfriend. All my fathers friends Have wives. Almost al men I know have or have had wives. All of the men in my family have girlfriends or wives. So, where is the 90% of virgins??
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 08:53 PM
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Try being less of a horny mother fucker 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 08:29 PM
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Is hard for women and men for different reasons. I think, overall is harder for queer women to date. And also for straight women as they usually get hurt a lot. Although I won’t deny many women are super awful and that the expectations for men are really wrong too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:53 AM
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Why the fuck are you talking about. She jus agreed with you. Don’t date no one you don’t want, even if that leaves you within option but to be single. No one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:10 AM
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This hurst my brain. Such a lame ass argument. So, women shouldn’t get married to men because is easier for them to marry and so if they pass on faithful relationship for sleeping with many women are they being collectively unfair to women? Also, what does it means you are promiscuous? Cause if we control for the number of options men have, women sleep with very few of their options while men sleep with anyone available. Shouldn’t that be taken into the equation? And what if it is easy for them?…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:06 AM
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The bar is low in some aspected and big in some others. I think what most people don’t notice is that both experiences are not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:43 AM
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And it could be the case that is harder for bisexual women to date women but even harder for men to date than it is for bisexual women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:38 AM
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Show me the data. I bet feminist women date with more variance than your average frat girl. Show me the data of why successful women won’t date men with lower earnings. Because for every woman that won’t date down there is a guy that won’t date up out of insecurity. Again, this is not a problem of feminism as feminism has never claim that’s a desirable outcome. The oposite actually. Come on, show me what feminist date with data. Show me how it compares with the average. There’s are a lot of cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:27 PM
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Show the data. In national surveys the biggest trend is due to infidelity, many times from men. And since feminism is not far reaching yet, you can blame that on feminism. Feminism doesn’t care about divorce, it cares about questioning prejudice. Nothing in its ideological basis implies feminism wants traditional men. Quite the opposite. The only thing that want traditional women is red pill. Not even traditional men as the traditional man is expected to have just one woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:17 PM
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Feminism doesn’t teach that. It teaches about questioning old stereotypes. You are thinking of basic women who can reach those conclusions without feminism. And divorce is on the rise because unhealthy relationships, no really just money nor feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:57 AM
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As a matter of fact the proportion of women who out earn their husbands is growing. And your question have nothing to do with the point. Feminism is not self help. Wether Feminism is wrong or not, nobody is making millions out of empty courses for individual success. Feminism is critical theory. Red pill is self help. Your question is not going to change that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:02 AM
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No problem. Just like there is no problem to be in a cult that somehow is not hurting you. You won’t get points for being smart, though. Now, let’s imagine that red pill comes at the expenses of making you believe unhealthy relationships means success. And you are spending money you need to get courses on how to get Tate’s video out there. Yeah, you see? Garbage. But if you enjoy red pill content and you are happy that way, hey there’s people who is happy collecting stamps. I don’t see no proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:59 AM
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I didn’t say shit about feminism being preoccupied with dating men or high value my ass men. That’s idiotic red pill BS you won’t read ever in a feminist article. Most of them they don’t even know what the fuck you are talking about with those terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:51 AM
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What you are just saying is just stupid as me saying red pill is about bringing fascism back and red pillers worship hitler. Not because you claim stuff people told you were true, that’s actually the case. The way you describe feminisms is just utterly false and just as stupid as me claiming red pill really is about doing the incel revolution. 🤣🤣🤣 you really are just a parrot of the red pill false preaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:48 AM
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Changing the point. The point is feminism is not even about dating or getting husband or traditional men. That’s garbage you are taking from YouTubers with big mouths. How can I prove you wrong something you haven’t even read about? Feminism has never claimed to be about being successful or dating. Just read Wikipedia and you’ll find out. Red pill is about dating. Doesn’t belong to the same category feminism does. Feminism is a political social movement. Red pill is self help.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:42 AM
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Changing the point. The point is feminism is not even about dating or getting husband or traditional men. That’s garbage you are taking from YouTubers with big mouths. How can I prove you wrong something you haven’t even read about? Feminism has never claimed to be about being successful or dating. Just read Wikipedia and you’ll find out. Red pill is about dating. Doesn’t belong to the same category feminism does. Feminism is a political social movement. Red pill is self help.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:42 AM
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Hahahaha every guru gives you advice that is in some basic level correct. That doesn’t change the fact they are getting rich from naive people that would end up in the same place with or without the guru. Most of Tate (and red pill) content is just crazy rant, basic advice and obscure rambling that most of the time doesn’t get concrete stuff for anyone except for, conveniently, the red pill YouTubers themselves. There are much better courses and info out there that doesn’t have to do with red pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:35 AM
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That’s bull shit. You haven’t even read one feminist shit but talking like you know what feminism is about. Literally what you are saying is just the idiotic things you here in YouTube form these people, proving further our point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:28 AM
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Exactly. Tate teaches you to get bitches. Feminism to develop better societies. Not the same thing, which was my point. Tate is a guru. Feminism is not. Red pill is not about better society but how to get the lottery. In the end he makes millions. You, on the other, most likely won’t, even with his advice. Lack of self awareness and critical thinking. There you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:22 AM
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Most women aren’t feminist. Most women have read about feminism, really, just as much as Tate has. And watch Tate’s women, do they look untraditional to you? Most of them are women who jumped from high school to modeling and that probably come from villages across Eastern Europe. Probably he has never dated a feminist. So, what’s the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:15 AM
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Feminist women are way more likely to accept men that aren’t conventionally attractive than the women Tate teaches you to pursue. Another preached shit you just took from YouTube.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:09 AM
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First of all, yes, most self help shit is BS that takes people money. Second, red pill advice on finance and fitness is basic stuff compared to experts on those topics specifically. Is not that they charge for teaching about finance and fitness why is scam, but the fact you can get educated on that with real experts, not gurus. It would be like getting a physics degree from MIT vs getting a physics knowledge form a Philosopher 🤣. Even if for some reasons he teaches you some shit, that’s not his …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:07 AM
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Well feminism has spoken against those stereotypes imposed on men. Wether individual women who are feminist live up to those expectations, doesn’t mean the movement promotes those ideas. On the contrary, rep pill do promoters those stereotypes about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:00 AM
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Feminism is not interested in making women successful. Is about rights and the pursue of an authentic self beyond sexism, racism and classism. How to become successful is what scammers sells, not feminism. How to get some “bitches” is red pill. Feminism is not about making you rich or happy in a prefixed way. Is a political movement, nor self improvement garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:33 AM
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Yeah, the best aspects of red pill, is info a shut you can get in almost other self help places hahahaha. Get fit, learn to use ur money. Oh wow! Fucking red pill reinvented the wheel. Did they tell you that? That red pill is not about dating? Is about getting rich and getting fit, which nobody else offers, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:28 AM
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That’s not even feminism. That’s just red pill preaching. Feminism is about individual liberties. And of course about promoting safe spaces for women to develop. Sometimes in places of power. This babe boss thing has more to do with capitalism (where every body feels guilty for not producing for a big corporation) than feminism. Feminism would argue that women who want to be young mothers and great professional should get societal help to achieve both, and not be conditioned by the husband. All …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:23 AM
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As with any other shit. Yet they are not self proclaimed feminist gurus. All red pillers content creators are gurus. That’s because even Hollywood has a limit. Nobody is buying the dumbest of the dumb. Just red pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:17 AM
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Couldn’t you say that those who lay for red pill content are dumb? Does any other pay for shit like that? Religious people, I guess hahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:00 AM
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Black pill is even worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 02:43 AM
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How many of them have “feminist hustler universities”? How many feminist make videos on “how to date”? Pure BS for people ready to consume marketing YouTubers. Feminist at least are not doing marketing to become YouTubers haha. That’s literally the only credited job for red pill scammers haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 02:43 AM
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Hahaha the same go for the only fan girls red pillers claim are using all the men that aren’t “high value men”. Is really few which pays for only fan of specific women with huge audience, but that’s enough to paint those girls as simps scammers. Guys like Andrew Tate are the greatest at using simps, though; red pill simps hahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 02:39 AM
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I’ve heard a man saying that. Also, I just know one woman who has said she don’t like bi men explicitly one time, so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:49 PM
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Well, at least is discussed in academia as really problematic. And you could do it, tell them is just their homophobia as many times they like the guy before they knew he was also into guys. Also, and to be honest, I’ve never heard a man getting backlash for not wanting a bisexual woman. I’ve heard women getting backlash for wanting tall man, handsome man, rich man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 01:08 PM
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The problem is when some behavioral traits are taken as proof of your inmoral nature, when they are not proof at all. A person with many lovers can be good and a person with just one or none can be bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 10:02 PM
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I think this overstated, as women do faces some pushback. For example, only wanting a man with high income is probably rooted in aspiration for very stereotypical masculine traits which in turn promote toxic masculinity. Not wanting a bi man is probably rooted in homophobia. According to their dating history and age preference they could get label as a white or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 09:58 PM
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That’s exactly what you can’t possible know. You see how you are not reading correctly these studies? What they calculate is the genetic diversity of women genetic markers that contributes to human present population vs the genetic diversity of men genetic markers that contribute to human present population. There is no way to know who fucked or who didn’t fuck. You can speculate things, you can have hypothesis of what happened, but the only hard data you have is the ratio of linages of men and …
/r/RedPillWomen24/04/22 01:56 PM
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Also, you misunderstand those studies. Is not like only 40% of men ever had sex or that 60% of men died virgin. It means 60 percent of male linages went extinct. This is in part due to differential reproduction success (which Is no the same as zero sex) between male, but not only that. It is also a product of extermination of some groups of men by the hand of other groups of men, and the kidnaps and rape of many women whenever conflict happened. What it doesn’t imply is that each year of human h…
/r/RedPillWomen24/04/22 04:27 AM
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They all have partners. So there you go.
/r/RedPillWomen24/04/22 02:24 AM
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I have the understanding that people who identify as such are ratter young. And a lot of them star their sexual life as adults. Is more of a teenage fase, I think.
/r/RedPillWomen24/04/22 02:23 AM
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I’ve heard that stats, but I’ve also see other studies that incels are very uncommon and that situation last only few years. Also I’m a guy. I don’t have any friend that is a virgin. If such an epidemic exists you would think an ordinary sample will represent the same proportion.
/r/RedPillWomen24/04/22 12:32 AM
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I think that’s factually incorrect. But anyways.
/r/RedPillWomen23/04/22 11:20 PM
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To a an extent. There are not that many virgins.
/r/RedPillWomen23/04/22 10:17 PM
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Oh yes. I mis constructed your claim. Is true.
/r/RedPillWomen23/04/22 01:22 PM
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That sounds like it could happen to men too. That they will compare other women with their wives, and that wove would not be able to compete with the “weird shit” their husband did in the past.
/r/RedPillWomen23/04/22 10:50 AM
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On those articles it’s showed the number of sexual partners before marriage is also negatively correlated with marriage happiness for men.
/r/RedPillWomen23/04/22 10:48 AM
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