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No. Do you know anything at all about abortion? Do you have the slightest idea why women get later abortions? Do you have the tiniest clue about pregnancy at all? Did you know many women have erratic periods or no periods?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/24 12:22 AM
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I’m really confused how you “don’t want” to not have anything to do with a kid, yet you decide to do that. If you feel so much shame, then pay child support. I don’t get what you’re saying. No one is forcing you to keep your wallet closed. I can see you feel strongly about this, so explain what I’m missing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/24 10:34 PM
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I’m not “from” there, but did find it sickly entertaining for a bit. It got old fast as most of it was just whining. I’m not sure what you’re saying. Once you’re already a father, like in divorce? Absolutely not. In certain contexts? Ideally, yes. I think it will be great when male birth control finally arrives. I expect men to take it up in droves, even if there are side effects (us women deal with plenty). There’s a child involved. I can’t say I think it should live in poverty because a guy do…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/24 10:27 PM
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You did have a say in the matter: you chose to wash your hands and save your money. What the hell are you talking about? Why would I empathise with a guy who chose himself over his kid?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/24 08:51 PM
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I answered in my other comment. The link is there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/24 05:38 PM
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I’m all for male advocates, but not uneducated, knee jerk misogyny. Your sarcasm is rooted in this belief that women treat abortions as if it’s the same as choosing whether or not to buy a pair of shoes as opposed to being something that can be a really difficult decision with deep psychological harm. What men are talking about is simply the right to wash their hands of any responsibility. And, btw - domestic abuse and life changing circumstances (like boyfriend dumping her late in the pregnancy…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/24 03:03 PM
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Sorry? What do you mean?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/24 02:36 PM
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This is shit and can easily be used as a method of coercive control by a man. I’m all for clear & specific understandings on what would happen should some sex lead to pregnancy before sex took place. I’m all for him not being responsible where it was clear to both parties beforehand, but you don’t need 16 or more weeks to decide whether or not you want to support a future child.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/24 11:43 AM
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Ummm… what stats where? You mean the ones some dude just stated from a pill sub? Is your barrel-scraping source material and lack of math skills part of why you “don’t trust the stats anymore”, or why you think you just saying that apparently all the research is “sussy” should be enough for anyone? You’re aware that’s per 100k population, right- as in, from babies to nursing home patients all men and all women? And it doesn’t include statutory rape? I suck at math too, but here’s some rough numb…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/24 10:06 PM
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You’d sound a bit more convincing if you didn’t use Female instead of woman, when you clearly know the difference between a noun and an adjective when talking about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/23 08:47 PM
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I know as a male impulse control is hard, and you have a tendency to think everything is about you, but perhaps if you scroll up once you’ve calmed yourself down, you’ll see I wasn’t talking to you in the first place? It’s hard to make sense of the world thru a tantrum, I know, but try.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 05:36 PM
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Explain what bit of what I said didn’t make sense to you and I’ll simplify things. How old are you that you think companies will develop AI girlfriends for you for free? It’s males who get upset when someone doesn’t agree with them who just argue for the sake of it… much like you are, pretending my points aren’t legitimate.
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/23 05:06 PM
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This is called a debate sub, not a blackpill circle jerk sub.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 10:15 PM
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So you’ll just be paying your money to an AI company selling your data. I suppose if you feel that’s an improvement then fine. Men have paid women for favours for years. OF etc are only filling a gap in the market- you’re not forced to pay money so I don’t know why you’re so bitter about it.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 10:02 PM
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So… also not you.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 10:00 PM
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Still no idea why or how this will affect women.
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 09:52 PM
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Because you were criticising women. Do you think you get to shit talk with impunity?
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 09:14 PM
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Once again, no one’s mad. Funny how the manosphere keeps pushing the boundary to 18, 16… But seriously, why would we be mad? If you’re in your 40s and can only connect with a girl in their 20s, it’s not like we’re missing anything by you doing so.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 06:53 PM
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screeching
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 11:14 AM
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Yes. But carry on.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 11:05 AM
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I never said he was a predator. I was making the point that by the time he’s on his 5th, most women have seen what he’s doing. No one wants to be approached like meat. And, yes. I live in London. I’ve even run a couple.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 10:42 AM
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Lol… there’s no such thing as “the” nightclub scene. Maybe where you’re from if it’s small. I am 100x more familiar with clubs than you are. Again- just carry on what you’re doing. I don’t care.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 10:39 AM
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Do whatever you want. You’re fully into the victim role you don’t need encouragement from me.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 10:30 AM
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Very unlikely those men are complete strangers. Look- if this is the only thing you know to do, carry on. Good luck.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 10:29 AM
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So? If you’re trash then why are you angry you don’t succeed as much as they do? Make up your mind. Either work on not being trash or be happy you get 1/100. You’re putting fuck all effort into it if you’re doing 20/night anyhow, so what’s there to complain about?
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 10:21 AM
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Right. So you have no interest in them, you’re approaching simply because they’re female. Why would a woman be interested in that? Just because YOU are looking for someone doesn’t mean every woman is. Most women hate strangers approaching them because they’re female. You think you’re the only one who does this? You complain you have hardly any friends and the ones you have are shallow, so it’s weird you expect women to take up the slack for you.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 10:18 AM
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I don’t hate you at all. I’m just saying your strategy is stupid. Why would you expect to get lucky with strangers any more than 1/100 times? And don’t call it “befriending” since that’s not why you’re exclusively approaching women.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 10:13 AM
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Not at the rate you’re doing it at. You obviously have no real interest in who you’re approaching as well since you just rinse & repeat. It’s laughable you call this “being rejected”. Are you able to put yourself in the woman’s shoes and ask yourself why they’d agree to … whatever suggestion you’re approaching them with?
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 10:07 AM
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That’s because most of the guys here have never dated.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 09:58 AM
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You’re aware women can see you doing this, right? You blatantly have no interest beyond the person being female. If you’re doing it this fast, you obviously also have zero charm in your approach as well. How did you expect this to pan out?
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 09:57 AM
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Why are you approaching women you don’t know at night? Who made you think this would be a good idea?
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 09:51 AM
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Lol. You’re not a threat. Most of us have daughters and the thought of a man as old as her dad letching on her is frankly repulsive.
/r/AllPillDebate26/08/23 09:28 AM
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I’m fully capable. But it doesn’t mean I want to have sex with you automatically.
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/23 01:59 PM
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Feminists don’t say that. How hilarious you think feminists care about how attractive a man is.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 04:28 PM
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It’s a shit thing to do but I’d be pissed off as well if I didn’t have water in my flat but was paying rent. How’d you know she only got a slap on the wrist? Says she was transferred “to the homicide section of the State Criminal Investigation Department for thorough investigation and prosecution.”. Sounds serious enough, especially in Nigeria I’d guess?
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 04:26 PM
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Being used for someone’s kink because they think you’ll be easy to manipulate isn’t “women having it easy”.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 10:20 AM
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Yeah… that’s like the wellness to alt right funnel.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:54 PM
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Pretending you’re getting data from a 30 year old sitcom is very much a man making sense of the world from shoving things into his mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:39 PM
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These opinions aren’t republican, they’re conservative. They come from male-centric Abrahamic religions, like Islam. For me personally, any RP views tell me he’s not worth getting to know anyhow. I don’t really care what his thoughts are on body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:22 PM
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I’d disagree with you here. I don’t know any women who don’t have their own careers and passions, and none of them think this way about men. The idea a man needs to “lead” her is absurd. This is solely the prerogative of conservative minded people who cling to old fashioned gender norms. It’s also weird you find changing a tyre “exploitative”. Also, If one partner has a skill set the other doesn’t, why is that exploitation?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:01 PM
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I personally think anyone seeking out virgins is kinda creepy, especially when it’s full on hypocritical. I’d say that type of guy/girl is definitely likely to not be good relationship material, since it seems their insecurities are based on how they feel themselves (ie, being an ex-slut, they doubt they can be monogamous, so try to get someone “pure” on the assumption they will be a safe partner). I happen to know an awful lot of musicians. They’ve ALL gone thru a “slut phase” and the vast majo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 03:51 PM
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Report to who? Cops? “A man talked to me”? Like I said, it’s not illegal. Threats, sexual harassment etc are illegal. And cops don’t record the “attractiveness” of anyone accused of doing so, so again, you only have opinions, not facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:56 PM
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I don’t know any women who think this way. Sounds like conservative trad crap. For people like this, this would also be why men never learn about stuff like folding laundry, ironing cuffs, or making grocery lists based on meal plans.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:53 PM
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I’m a woman and I don’t know a single woman who complains about not being approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:43 PM
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How would you know, seeing as you’re a man? And who “reports” approaches anyhow? It’s not illegal to talk to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:41 PM
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Controlling/dom doesn’t mean fuckboy/player. It’s extremely possible that said supposedly kind, supposedly passive dude is actually a jealous, controlling shithead. People also just… grow up. Nobody in their 30s that I know think they resemble who they were in their early 20s, and certainly not their teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:37 PM
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Then you haven’t been on this sub very long.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:23 PM
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It is only for special circumstances. Only 10% of divorces use alimony, and the idea of permanent alimony is only half a dozen states.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:21 PM
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Whines about women treating men like the enemy… proceeds to write an entire essay about how many things despises in women. Upset women aren’t sympathetic to his outdated views.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 03:05 PM
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Right. Because back then rape wasn’t a thing. Polygamy wasn’t a thing. Raping your slave or servant women wasn’t a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 02:18 PM
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Yeah… this is kinda bullshit. https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fevo.2019.00230/full
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 10:08 AM
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Most wealthy people getting lambos and whatever you define as HVM are born into wealth. I don’t really care what 0.5% of men do. I’d expect a helluva lot more than just “emotional loyalty”, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 09:47 AM
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So- your trans activist who posts things like that: is engagement being driven by your supposed “wokist” tribe, or is it being driven by rightwing transphobia using it as an example to justify their hatred? Do you think it’s being shared positively by “woke” people, or being shared negatively by “anti-woke”?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 08:52 AM
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Yes, I agree that masculine stereotypes are ingrained in society, and women are also subject to them. I can’t help but notice you’ve had to go specifically for a “high earning woman” in your example. These things change significantly as wages go down. Also, the notion of “hypergamy” is based on sourcing the best provider for offspring. So- just because she “could” have a decent enough amount for her kids, it will still be less than she was capable of herself. Men here always like to use extreme …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 08:47 AM
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The fact that corporations use “pride month” to monetise their brand and score cheap social cohesion points has fuck all to do with pride itself, not to mention feminism or “wokism”. Despite your anger at feminism and “wokism”, what CAN be tracked is a rise in misogyny, hate crime, homophobia & transphobia. This is being caused in large part by algorithms. Not to mention funding by rightwing super pacs, billionaires and other groups. You completely missed my point. I never mentioned Tate. I neve…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 08:02 AM
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Again: no one cares if promiscuous men are “celebrated” by other men. That’s just the usual homoerotic shit hetero men do with each other. Women also grow up in a patriarchal society that dictates part of being a “real man” is his virility and sexual prowess.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 07:51 AM
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Probably loads. Especially with a reduction in ways you can let off steam healthily.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 06:45 AM
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Where do you get data saying men have become “better feminists” from? What we can track is a link between social media and increasing isolation. We can clearly track a rise in misogyny to the same increase in social media use. We can track algorithms from many sites that will push rightwing and misogynistic content extremely easily, and it has nothing to do with the person’s interests or beliefs, but is purely pushing rage bait because that generates more profit. I had this happen to me recently…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 06:31 AM
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Yeah- it’s not by the number, it’s by % of those who get murdered it seems. And lots of DV. But that’s … not really surprising in an economy where the whole population is stressed out, and particularly where there’s still a sexist “men must provide” attitude. I think this happens everywhere when there’s an economic downturn, and especially when women can’t escape because they can’t support themselves financially. https://time.com/4668658/violence-women-v-day-domestic-asia-homicide-sexism/?amp=tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 05:56 AM
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So- one issue with these stats is it’s always including teenagers. Now, especially at that time, women are dating men a bit older than them. It’s such an obvious thing, and has been for decades, I always question why 18 year olds are in the same category as a 29 year old. Regardless, all the article is saying is between 18-29, 60% of men and 75% of women are dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 05:38 AM
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Dude - you’ve just written an entire post of made up numbers, made up percentages, made up situations and made up beliefs women have. Women I’ve seen on this app are quick to shit on virgin men who blame women for their sex problems. There’s a big difference. Also- How would I know a guy is a virgin? See- if you yourself are a virgin and you write a post like this about women, it’s pretty fair you get criticism. I’d gather you think yourself to be one of those “good guys who aren’t good looking”…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 05:31 AM
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No- 40% of young men aren’t dating. Note: that doesn’t mean they want to date either. And 25% of women haven’t. That’s still 60% of men are dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 05:16 AM
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There’s a 15% difference. 60% of men are dating- that’s hardly a “small minority”. And large numbers aren’t looking to, for many reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 06:12 PM
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Fuckin hell, I’m surprised any guy is getting laid. I read they also have one of the highest rates of female homicide too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 06:08 PM
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Lol. What a fucked up thought process to have for a normal conversation. So when her view is right, are you “submitting” to her judgement as well? I’m confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:51 PM
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Yet they’re dating guys who earn less? Why not just equal? If they’re going to have kids, a guy earning more makes sense, because she’ll likely be sacrificing money and career prospects. I mean, I’m sure you know women like this, just as I’ve not known a single one. Is it nice when it happens ? Of course. I’ve just never seen it be a thing someone actively seeks out, outside of transactional relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:39 PM
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What a weird obsession to call this “submitting”. You know a shortcut, she agrees it sounds like a good idea. Are men constantly submitting to their bosses at work then? Like “men should submit to the CEO in all things”. I can hand on heart say I’ve never heard a guy talk about how him being submissive leads to a better office environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:30 PM
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I’ve never heard a girl complain a guy isn’t a “provider”, but is still dating a guy who earns less. I only hear conservatives say this stuff, so maybe it’s where you live. No woman I know expects a guy to “provide”. It’s not the 50s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:23 PM
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I’ve no idea what you mean by “dominant”. You seem to be using it interchangeably with confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:48 PM
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Where’s that a common argument? I’ve no idea what you mean by “community dick”. Since when did women need a dick that badly? And unlike men, women aren’t looking for equal “shaming”. They don’t care if promiscuous men are shamed. They just want men to stop shaming them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:46 PM
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Well- you have a choice whether you’re just gonna get bitter & start resenting women, or try and sort your life out on your own. Blaming women for the fact men will shag anything therefore it’s easier for women to get sex is toxic. And 2X isn’t remotely “feminist”. You can read their about page to see what it’s for. OLD is hard because there’s so many men on there. It’s hard because most women aren’t really interested in just fucking anyone. As a feminist, I totally understand it’s very hard for…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:39 PM
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For the description you’ve used to define “bad boys”, those are really bad guys and not ones most women are attracted to. If you’re a junkie, you’ll probably date a junkie. If you’re in a culture of low socioeconomics, negative outlooks, life won’t get better, then you’ll probably end up dating the same. The usual thing is guys looking and assuming some guy is a “bad guy” just because he doesn’t fit the conservative cultural norm. I was into “bad guys” when I was young. We had a lot of fun, a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:27 PM
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That doesn’t mean they want to date, though. It’s a different culture with a different history. It’s got problems with being sexist and traditional: meaning guys work an awful lot, women don’t get paid as much, and therefore there’s still a sort of trad con understanding of what a relationship entails. From what I gather, they’re an extremely overworked society already under a lot of pressure to “live up to” a certain perceived status. I think rightly a lot of guys are not into marriage, which w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:12 PM
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I’m in the uk and I agree. I came here in the 90s, and the difference btwn uk and USA was really stark. After a few years here, going back was a shock- people were SO fat, so badly dressed compared to the uk. But then we went from shit uk food to a foodie culture. All the American shit came here. When I first got here, I was SHOCKED - no such thing as lean beef, no skim milk, no sweeteners or “low cal” foods. Now we’ve got it all and we’re running to catch up to them. The other thing is the USA …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:43 PM
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Probably not. Me spending too much time here reading how men things of women on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:28 PM
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Rubbish. Femininity has been seen as weak throughout history. It’s what the patriarchy has used for centuries to restrict our choices and limit our growth. We didn’t seek to “become men”, we seek equality. Men think their freedom is innate, and our freedom is a privilege. This is Russia, where “women are women and men are men”: Margarita Gracheva asked for protection. Law enforcement failed her. After her husband had dragged her into the woods behind their home and threatened her with a knife, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:12 PM
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Exactly. Which is apparently what they want as a “mate”. Yet they don’t like the game when saying “I’m a provider” means you actually have to do just that. I’m in the uk and I don’t know a single woman who doesn’t go Dutch. Most people keep everything low stakes with just a coffee or something fun and easy. But America has that weird hyper individualism, hyper consumerism, hyper selfish mentality they’ve stirred into their purity culture, Jesus was a White Republican ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:20 PM
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There’s zero evidence of what you say. I can’t help that males are too challenged they can’t read the data of the 80/20 graph they keep pulling up as “proof”, which goes on to prove most men are messaging way out of their league looks-wise. I’m sorry you are incapable of objective thought. Women message a broader range of males than males do women. Most males want a casual hookup, most women don’t on OLD. That’s why last I heard, tinder was 90% men. That pew study y’all quote, 36% of males looki…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:13 PM
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You’re the one wetting your panties with self justified nonsense. I’m backed by research, you’re just defining “male fragility”. Own goals, pal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:44 PM
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Actually, people born poor are also liable to squander money on luxuries because it’s new, and it shows off their newly acquired wealth. Like in a car sub I’m on, every day there’s a guy who as soon as he gets a raise, wants to trade in his car to lease a luxury one he craves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:43 PM
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Actually, that’s because they are doing most of the household purchases as well. They’re usually in charge of furniture, decor, kids clothes etc etc etc. It’s probably the same study, but it found men make fewer purchases, but they’re more expensive and on things that don’t “add” value but depreciate: cars, tvs, sound equipment, tech. But I think women probably make more pointless purchases of small value, like going shopping cos you feel depressed & buying another lipstick you probably will for…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:36 PM
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Not a man, but again, living with a landlord is classed differently. As a tenant in a separate home, you are entitled to live in that home peacefully as you’re paying for it. Therefore tenants have protected rights. When you live with the landlord, it’s the landlord’s home, and they have the right to live peacefully in it, not you. You could make your life a lot easier by just using a Google search since you haven’t even said where you live. There’s no point asking for advice if you don’t know y…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:54 AM
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Testosterone doesn’t make you “more dominant”. It makes you aggressively fight for a position of dominance. It really just makes you aggressive, and have low impulse control. So, just because you happen to be born a tall, violent man doesn’t mean you were naturally a leader, it just meant you could beat other males down. I see zero evidence of this male fantasy that women have been sexually selecting these traits. None. All evolution fantasies and guesswork (because- frankly, that’s all it is) h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:45 AM
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Didn’t see who you were. You’re the king baby with the fantasy world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:31 AM
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Why would I do that? I don’t let men pay for dates anyhow. They’re like pets: they do best with clear boundaries. Seems to be a weird American thing where their traditions are still a bit backwards & trad con.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:30 AM
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No it doesn’t. Mostly because the 80/20 is males using a graph meme and ignoring the actual study. Women are having far less sex than males in that age group. https://news.iu.edu/live/news/26924-nearly-1-in-3-young-men-in-the-us-report-having-no#:~:text=BLOOMINGTON%2C%20Ind.,study%20by%20Indiana%20University%20researchers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:15 AM
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Ah. I was wondering why you didn’t post the link, and I assume it was so you could manipulate the results. Turns out WOMEN are having FAR LESS sex than males: The study’s findings regarding sexual frequency declines among adolescents are particularly notable, according to Herbenick. The proportion of adolescents reporting neither solo masturbation nor partnered sexual behavior increased from 28% of young men and 49% of young women in 2009 to 43% of young men and 74% of young women in 2018. But t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:05 AM
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Except they don’t. Men aren’t that good in bed, and “first sex” sex is usually the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:57 AM
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See. I haven’t said that anywhere, yet you’re triggered because you don’t have an intelligent argument. This is why men are hypogamous. They’re frankly terrified by equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:24 AM
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Unlike you, I don’t just cry my rage onto this sub. See my earlier comment with research showing male perception. Males feel threatened, that’s all it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:22 AM
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Who’s “we”? All the dateless manlets? Honey- we know. Males have been jealous and frightened of women for millennia. Do you think saying you see us like cars is a win? “We’re incapable of emotions, we see women as possessions”. Wow. What a revelation. It’s why you’ve never been “protectors”. All you are is resource guarding, like a dog with a bone. Unless you feel a sense of ownership, you’re women’s #1 threat. But, hey. If it makes you feel better, sure- think of us like cars. And then tell me …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:20 AM
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You mean in a more equal country. There’s zero reason having sex would make women more shallow 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:15 AM
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Why would there be regret? Dude, you’re still in school. Most people mature out of this shaming sex/ idolising hymens anyhow. Unless you’re religious, or lack a decent education. If women having sex makes you angry, then just stay a virgin until you find your life partner. That’s totally cool. A virgin who marries a virgin is a HVM. A guy who has some fun who marries a girl who’s had some fun is a HVM. Anything else is petty jealousy. Always wear a condom.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:39 AM
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I feel like you answered the question, but instead of understanding it, you dismissed it entirely. “People do have types and types exist to appreciate the qualities that deviate from perfection but are also unique”. You keep insisting they “consciously compromise”. Perfect beauty does not mean “ultimate sexual attraction”. It just means very pretty to look at.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:08 PM
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Dude said the quiet part out loud 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:48 PM
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It doesn’t. But it’s perceived by men as “acting like a bitch”. Or a woman “who makes work her entire persona”. It actually doesnt apply to men, as it’s perceived positively, since it’s considered a stereotypical “masculine” trait. There’s hardly any people who make their careers their sole life and only talk about work. So why even mention it when it comes to women? Most videos of and from “boss babes” aren’t even addressed to men. They’re literally not talking to you about it, it’s meant for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:36 PM
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Yes, the lioness. Or rather, lionesses, as they don’t have a social hierarchy. The males defend the territory and the pride (guess who from??). They also kill cubs that don’t belong to them. Since they only last for 3-5 years, of course they’re not “the leader”. The lionesses do the vast majority of hunting as well. If you want to use “facts” to back up your arguments, make sure you know what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:15 PM
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Quite the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:00 PM
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“Studies suggest that women who engage in self-promoting behaviour are perceived as more dominant and arrogant than men displaying the same behaviour. They are judged as pushy, less likeable and less collegial than similar male peers. While their self-promotion leads others to perceive women as competent, they are less likely to be recruited or promoted due their counter-stereotypical behaviour. Professional women appear to be caught in a catch-22: to overcome traditional negative stereotypes th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:58 PM
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So… hard facts. One night stands, for the most part, aren’t that good for most women, because sadly men take “pump & dump” literally, and that’s their idea of “sexy time”. I’m pretty sure you’re aware of this, so I’m surprised you question whether men are honest, yet you’re definite women are… lying? Not sure what you mean there. I totally get that some men get used for “what they can provide”. But, what exactly are you talking about? One thing I constantly find at odds is men can go from talkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:54 PM
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No idea what you’re talking about. And, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:34 PM
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Because you can’t just “be” nice as a general state of existence. The vast majority of people are nice enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:13 PM
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(Woman makes her own money & dates attractive guy) men: That’s disgusting! Women would never date 5’2” bald guys, even if they were super nice!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:07 PM
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That’s literally what he’s saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:38 PM
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Assuming “being in charge” is the natural state of men is sexism. Which is why “men not generally attracted to independent women” is male fragility.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:37 PM
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Again, what’s the point of marrying him?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:40 PM
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I thought all young women were after rich chads who pump & dump them. Sigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:14 PM
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Femininity as you’ve defined it is what keeps women doing more of the housework, childcare and elder care roles. It’s the reason they give up careers and demote to part time work. You want all the benefits of trad con, but you also don’t want to be the sole breadwinner. If men don’t embody supposedly “feminine” qualities like kindness, nurturing, compassion, sensitivity and devotion to family, then what’s the point in marrying him?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:10 PM
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And right they should be, judging by the low quality of the males on this sub. Your opinion doesn’t outweigh genuine research on these topics. It’s adorable you think your “the end” means you’ve won the argument, but you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:06 PM
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I don’t know who she is. But your description is exactly that: career woman who overcompensates by keeping all the “trad fem” qualities men expect from a relationship. I don’t know what kind of social media you watch. Most of what you say I don’t see in the very successful women I know. Successful women aren’t also devoting time to monetising a platform - at least, no more (and significantly less) than successful men are who go about bashing successful women. Tbh, most people marry pretty much e…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:01 PM
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No, because masculinity is tied up with “being in charge”.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:46 PM
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So… basically you’re saying you want trad wife who also contributes financially. You could actually read research on this rather than assuming men “must mean” boss babes. Men feel threatened by successful, intellectual women. Not all men, not by a long shot. But definitely the men saying they don’t want a career woman, who then create a deeply sexist meme of what a career woman acts like.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:42 PM
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This is another op Ed from someone with no knowledge. You can look up how women are perceived vs how men are perceived when they’re in authority. Look up how men perceive “how much women talk” vs reality. Male fragility is a very, very real factor in relationships and attraction. Hypogamy allows them to retain their “superior” position.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:33 PM
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So you’ll stay in a loveless, sexless marriage because money. You realise people cheat because they expect they WONT get caught, right? The government doesn’t reward cheaters. The government rewards time spent in partnership. No fault divorce basically means you can’t refuse to divorce them, makes things better for kids, cheaper & hopefully friendlier than having to root round for evidence showing why you can’t bear being married any more. You do you, though. Especially if you don’t plan to have…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:56 PM
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Touché. Definitely way older than you. But I still don’t understand how your Demi girl is somehow acting not remotely like she’s Demi at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:56 PM
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Yes, because no one acknowledges male hypOgamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:54 PM
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I totally agree with you: there’s absolutely NO WAY of knowing how your partner and/or life can change. If your possessions are the most important thing in your life, then you’re probably right to not get married. With all the wealth you accumulate, you could just hire someone. The longer you’re together, the more likely it becomes that you’ll cheat on her, since male infidelity increases with age. I don’t see much difference btwn dumping your wife because you want a younger model as the reason …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:52 PM
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1000 years ago the global population was 500 million. It’s now 8 billion. That’s really looking way far in the future, considering how we’ve depleted & poisoned the planet already.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:43 PM
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I agree it doesn’t solve anything, but more because men get fucked up if their partner is too successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:40 PM
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What? Why is a Demi woman gonna be dating a bunch of guys cos they thought “she’s hot”? Most people I know spent months bumping into each other, forming bonds, shared jokes and experiences etc before they went on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:36 PM
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No, wait a sec. You’re supposed to know. That’s why women get all the blame for their choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:51 PM
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The timelines justify my stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:47 PM
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“To be a man in relation to a woman is to be used for what you can provide”. Amazing this kinda comment can be taken seriously in a sub where men are advocating for pump & dump, sex encounters they have no desire to take further.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:17 PM
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Who said I hated men? I think men are great. I have deep love for my male friends & family. You’re the one showing your hatred of women by making comments like you did. You’re disrespectful, slut-shaming, and hypothesising that women are whores, no matter how they appear. And this hatred shows again, where it’s obvious you have little sexual expertise where you think women would be really into sucking some strange cock off in a cubicle. Because… gagging on a cock is what porn has said turns wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:44 PM
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That doesn’t require you be the top 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:39 PM
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“You could have walked away at any point”. You clearly have no understanding of abusive relationships. Yes, women pay for it. That’s not “lacking in accountability”.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:39 PM
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I don’t see why it is. Breadwinner & homemaker are seen as equal. “Contributed more” is merely financial, in your assumption. The status quo is starting from 50/50. No, infidelity is no longer considered, but equally it was never an excuse to leave the marriage- you still had to prove the relationship was irretrievable (along with having to prove infidelity in the first place). Maybe there’s a reason behind the infidelity? Maybe he’s an alcoholic, or impotent, or abusive? 30% of couples, the wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:34 PM
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Another male fantasy centring the penis as if that’s what gets women off.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:56 AM
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I’m not sure where this idea that women get lots of compliments come from. We are definitely better at complimenting each other. This article has some interesting points of view, backed by studies: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/12/why-men-cant-take-compliments/282164/ Unsolicited attention based on my physicality is NOT complimentary. I can’t help but assume these are the “compliments” men are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:52 AM
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So if he cheats, she gets all the assets. Weird take.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:09 AM
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All these guys deliberately missing the point where she also says she’ll masturbate if sex isn’t available. That’s why there’s no “desert”.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:06 AM
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My view is because those scenes also tend to feature genuine female orgasms, where the pleasuring is the focus, whereas male porn is mostly about him sinking his penis somewhere & cumming.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:02 AM
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How’d you work that out? So- a woman who’s attractive and charismatic and NOT giving out sex for free needs to be not respected & labelled a “player”, despite you elsewhere saying it’s hard to be attractive and charismatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:58 AM
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Are you legally blind? Can you not get an idea by looking? Since your penis is hidden, would it be offensive for a woman to ask you it’s dimensions?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:52 AM
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I see it as pushback. So many manlets with microphones banging on about how shit women are, you’ve got a lot of women convinced that most men aren’t worth it. Since men have also been banging on about how they’re just constantly in heat & easy to sex, some women have decided that since the sex is gonna be crap, she should be paid for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:50 AM
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You don’t earn love with a bank balance. That buys you love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:46 AM
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No, dude. Tell ME. Men are twice as likely to be scammed, despite 75% convinced they’re immune. Not to mention, 75% of scammers are male. This bias- your self belief that you’re impervious despite being easily duped- is what makes you apportion blame to (ONLY) female victims. You are as incapable of spotting a liar & manipulator. The stats say you’re more incapable than women, but the reason women are more often the victims is because most perpetrators are male.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:44 AM
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But makeup is a societal standard. I’d agree, plastering thick base and false eyelashes could be considered such, but older women don’t tend to do that. Also- since all this evolutionary stuff is about mating and fertility, why would older women give a shit? A male competing for young girls is by definition a LVM, so why would we care? It’s not like the sex is that great (& we’ve got great toys), more and more women have their own careers and independence. We’d be more likely to end up in yet an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:58 PM
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No, I’m not. I’m merely entertaining myself. Y’all seem obsessed with using badly understood evolutionary theory to explain things, so I’d have thought you’d appreciate being classed merely by sex characteristics across all animal species, rather than giving you the specific human identifier noun.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:52 PM
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Yeah, I think it’s gross. But males here seem to insist on using an adjective as a noun for women, so I think it’s fine I lower myself to their level.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:39 PM
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Oh. I thought women liked shit guys and good guys got labelled beta or whatever. Now it’s all the good guys are taken and women are searching for good guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:35 PM
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Fucking hell, that’s a shabby Wikipedia entry. Aside from many “citation needed”, the other links were : these are things men & women do equally. The only difference I could find was women would list self-improvement (health, clothes, makeup) more then men, who also listed putting competing males down as another common tactic. A lot of the usual hypothesising by listing various animals, including fish and frogs. Absolutely nothing about societal adaptations, like millennia of oppressing & contro…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:32 PM
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I said there were plenty of women like that. If your only value is in your physique and your wealth, that’s the kind of woman you get.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:01 PM
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You mean most men their age not being any good.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:00 PM
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Omg- did you see ONE TikTok?? Well then… that must disprove all the data. 🤡 No one says “every single older woman”, except males who insist all women are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:58 PM
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Again- this is males projecting their insecurities onto women. Older women literally don’t care. A dude my age chasing young skirt is by definition undateable & an absolute turn off. It’s deeply creepy when most older women have kids the same age as the kid the men want to stick their dick into. Women are very happy being single if there’s no decent men around. Like seriously: what FOMO? Missing out on what? The sex?? 😂😂😂. Gimme a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:56 PM
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They just project their own issues onto women. It’s easier to pretend women are all in some competition for an unattainable male and that’s why no one wants them, than to realise you just aren’t that great a catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:48 PM
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The vast majority of males here have no social skills, to be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:47 PM
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See- the fact your guess is so way off base tells me you haven’t a clue what women do or don’t do- your sole aim is to find a way to put women down. The vast majority of women have had an old guy creep on them and/or grope them by the time they hit 15. I had 4 such experiences before my first kiss. This is why this sub is so garbage, tbh. It’s just whining and making shit up. I still can’t help myself reading it, it’s a sick fascination watching manlets pull stuff out of their bums.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:46 PM
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So how come single mothers are the poorest demographic of these men were magnanimously paying to maintain a child? I’m from the uk, where we’re not obsessed with locking up our citizens. Child support is 12% of your pay check, dude. 16% if you have 2 children, 25% of you have 3- all mitigated if you’re also caring for a child yourself. It’s hilarious listening to men pretend that single mothers are all just watching tv eating bonbons on poor daddy’s dime and letting their kid starve in a corner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:11 PM
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No, of course not. They only talk about “evolution” when it’s to give them an excuse for being sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:05 PM
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Wait- men who abandon their children should be sympathised with because they “lack capacity”? Most men don’t lack capacity when they abandon children. They’re fully capable of deciding their needs take priority over their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:04 PM
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No. “Absent father” is what’s talked about when talking about single mothers raising children. As if it’s just an accident, or an unintended holiday.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:02 PM
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They are. They’re raising a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:00 PM
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Someone failed sociology.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:58 PM
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No- it seems clear there’s way more male losers. Males as a class seem to be full of losers. Why are you assuming all single mums just shagged random strangers? What is really apparent is most men are useless, selfish children and no woman should have sex with any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:57 PM
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So- most men aren’t worth having sex with. It seems the vast majority are little babies who can barely clean their room by themselves, let alone man up to taking care of a child. Really, hanging out on this sub, I think that’s all red pill is about: faking you’re a decent human being, so you can get your dick wet. Ultimately, RP manlets are the most subpar men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:51 PM
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No, they say they’d rather get a sperm donor than be with any man. Look- I’m genuinely sorry you’re socially awkward and women don’t think you’re fuckable. That seems to be the issue. Women don’t have high standards, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:47 PM
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So… because a player gets pussy, all men decide to be cunts, because they’re baboons who just rut. They’re all too stupid to be worthwhile, because all men just want pussy. And the way to stop men being cunts is for women to stop having sex with all men. After all, if he’s not a “player”, then you blame her for settling or using men. Except YOU- of course- cos you’re the decent male. Or rather, it’s women’s fault you’re now not a decent male, because… waah, you want pussy but can’t get any. So t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:44 PM
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Do you ever stop?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:35 PM
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Neither do single mums. Honestly, why should “they just don’t care” garner more sympathy than the woman who decides to raise a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:32 PM
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Scuse me? Have you read any history? Please, by all means, tell me of a period where women were disparaged less than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:29 PM
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Are you still misquoting the pew research that isn’t replicated anywhere else? It’s actually 51%/32. And of those who are single, many aren’t looking for a relationship. AND, between 18-29, the ones looking to date are 67M/61F. So, pretty much equal. BUT, those looking for casual hookups are 36M/12F. So, most disparity is men wanting casual sex and women wanting something more. You’re a moron if you think women willingly get “pumped & dumped”. Men lie. Even those supposedly “nice dudes” who have…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:27 PM
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They’re mostly called “absent”. Meanwhile single mothers bear the brunt of society’s condemnation and disdain.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:07 PM
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Yes. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:06 PM
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No. He doesn’t have to have contact, but he’s still responsible for the child. He’s a deadbeat if he’s incapable of separating the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:06 PM
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Because they’re convinced replicating their genes makes them a man. After all, manlets here use “evolution” as the reason they’re base hoes who’d shag a loaf of bread or a hole in the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:05 PM
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What makes you think he was honest about it? And what you’re talking about is an extreme example. Most single moms aren’t what you described.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:02 PM
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Sure, if your ideal life is partying on a yacht with “25 year old baddies” who are there because you have a 6 pack & a yacht. If your idea of successful male is lean physique and wealth, then you’ll attract women interested in fit rich guys. Which is fine- you do you. What I don’t understand are the men on here who then complain about supposedly hypergamous women. That’s what you’ll attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:00 PM
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Mentally ill = red pilled
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 09:25 PM
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You’d think, wouldn’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 09:22 PM
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So it’s a woman’s fault when he cheats and skips out, a woman’s fault if he goes to jail, a woman’s fault if he dies, a woman’s fault if he “loved” her and then bailed when she got pregnant, it’s her fault if he says he’d love being a daddy but runs away a couple of months before she gives birth, it’s a woman’s fault if they divorce, it’s a woman’s fault if he’s abusive. So you must agree that MEN should be the submissive ones, they’re incapable, cold, selfish, merely animals desperate to rut, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:40 PM
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Where do you live that a family can survive on a single income?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:26 PM
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Pretty sure they do pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:16 PM
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Yes- shit, loser, deadbeat dads are a real social issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:14 PM
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I love how males skip over the abusive male and go straight to woman-blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:09 PM
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You’re talking about first impressions. It’s impossible to know someone’s values and views without making the sounds with your mouth called communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:56 PM
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GOOD, INVOLVED fathers are a positive. Simply having a penis & existing doesn’t improve a child’s development. What you’re complaining about is a tiny, wealthy minority of women. If you care so much about children, then push back on the RP talk about being able to “financially abort”, the dissing that happens towards single mothers, and urge men to become adults instead of self-centred brats. Fwiw, the worst outcomes are when a dad has custody & shacks up with another woman. Most of the social i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:47 PM
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I mean… it sounds like it’s just you, not your marriage. Spoilt people who contributed little to their own happiness don’t usually feel happy about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:36 PM
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There are few countries like that (8, actually) and it’s a recent development. What do you mean I can’t know that prostitutes face more discrimination than johns? It’s pretty easy for a guy not to face discrimination: don’t tell anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:26 PM
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Prostitutes face exponentially more social stigma than guys who use their services. Tbh, your fight is with men, not women. If you want women to become more open sexually, the fight is with men (and conservative women) who stigmatise them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 01:47 PM
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So what are you whining about? Progressive males don’t want trad con relationships. Choose to be modern and want a modern woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 01:45 PM
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They aren’t the voice of “society”, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 01:43 PM
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Women are fully capable of being independent. They comprise more first time house buyers. They’re choosing to remain single. They’re choosing not to marry or have kids. The number of women who out-earn their partner is increasing exponentially (now 30% of couples). What you’re saying is men ARE NOT natural leaders, and I wholeheartedly agree with you. You ARE NOT protectors, you ARE NOT particularly useful as a mate. After all, you’re merely concerned with providing for yourself, which is absolu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 01:39 PM
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It’s not laughing in your face, it’s just that in order for you to satisfy your needs, you’re requiring women to step up and make the sacrifice. The problem isn’t men who believe in equality. The problem is males who don’t, EXCEPT when it works in their favour. They want promiscuous women for sex, but at the same time write epics about body count, “pair bonding” & “hYpErGaMy”. I sympathise that males want lots of sex without strings or consequences. But it doesn’t mean I feel the need to make th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 01:30 PM
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Is LVM for “low value male”?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 01:18 PM
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Ah. Friend’s suicide is a whole other level compared to work issues. I only have what you’ve said to go on, so we could argue all day about context, but, in general, this is how I feel: Death is always a hard topic. And it’s really hard for the listener to know how to navigate it, especially when you’re still essentially strangers. Terminally ill people always have this issue, which can become a burden. Friends and family just… don’t know what to say. There just aren’t any words, and that when y…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:15 AM
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It would be incredibly weird if my eyes remained “full of lust” as a guy starts talking about something that troubles him. That’s a clear indication I have zero interest in him beyond the physical & I’m not listening. Why do you think “listening & being empathetic” immediately means “no longer a potential partner”?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:33 AM
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Did you type that because you thought it was an original observation? How many times/week do you copy out that statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:39 AM
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It’s not that I don’t agree, it’s that it’s so balls achingly obvious I don’t get why it’s even being discussed. Some other commenter was saying he actually “respects women less” because of it. This is like if one of your mates pointed out a girl and said “she gives good head”, you’d probably be more keen to have a go. If a man is talking to women, then I know he’s at least normal and probably unthreatening and not boringly obsessed with his dick. It’s just not a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 11:31 PM
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But I don’t think anyone has a problem with 2 immature 22 year olds having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 10:50 PM
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Because men want to have plenty of free sex, then marry a virgin. If 5 is your “acceptable body count” for a woman to have, then is that where you will stop until you find the one you’re going to marry? Or do you get to have an unlimited amount of partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 10:37 PM
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And you hunk people are saying to raise the age of consent to 25? Never heard of that. But I live in the uk & America is whack, so maybe you’re from some weird town that’s into the purity cult or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 10:31 PM
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Then ffs don’t make an advance your first move.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:16 PM
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So… why would a discerning woman be interested in a guy who trawls a bar looking for hookups?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:16 PM
1

Wait… so, he’s making them laugh and smile but I can’t understand why he’s funny? I need other women to tell me that? I can’t hear him, but I can hear all these other girls talking about how hot he is? So, I’m seeing a guy who’s able to have convos with women where it’s literally just that. And you don’t think I’d find that attractive? Guys keep forgetting safety. This guy is sorta “proving” he’s non threatening. It’s one reason guys get more attention when they have a girlfriend: you’re safer t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:12 PM
1

Sure. Then you spend time getting to know a woman, or a group of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:26 PM
6

Men prefer not to be “challenged”. I’m not sure what the problem is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:25 PM
3

Nope. Men prefer to date down- hypogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:55 PM
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Being decent looking isn’t the only factor when it comes to getting a woman. I think men have overinflated egos. The fact is, a woman can be lonely and at the same time be happy. Guys egos are tied to how “successful” they are perceived to be, both my themselves and to other men. Males are constantly seeking validation for their masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:48 PM
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Exactly. You’re not attracted to that = hypogamy. Note i said hypogamy, not hypergamy. Male insecurity is a better predictor of preferences than “hypergamy” in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:40 PM
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Most of that is skincare, like cleansers (41%). Wearing makeup is a social norm. I agree, women use makeup deliberately when going out or on a date, same as men use cologne, or a watch. A woman putting a 5 minute face on for work isn’t because she’s competing for male attention, though. Wearing NO makeup is frowned on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:38 PM
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Hypogamy is a factor with males. They’re more comfortable being able to perceive themselves as “more masculine”. When men are insecure they get dangerous. They prefer shorter, younger, more dependent. If anything, male hypogamy is a more reliable factor than supposed female hypergamy, now that women are treated more equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:31 PM
1

Well- duh. It means you’re attractive and probably have a decent personality. I don’t get why you guys think this is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:27 PM
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Eh? So you think women are all waiting to see what other women are doing? Sure- if a friend of mine gets besotted by some guy, I’ll look on him more favourably and make an effort to get to know him where I hadn’t noticed him before. That has NOTHING to do with your weird imaginings that women are all waiting to see who to pounce on. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:25 PM
2

That’s not competing, though. And why are you using extreme examples that have nothing to do with the discussion? I mean - 6’2 guy sounds scrawny to me anyhow, but that’s beside the point. NOW think of the young, attractive woman and tell me about the men falling all over themselves to get her attention 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:22 PM
2

Again- why need to compete? Males compete with other males. That’s why the largest difference in the body shape is male ability to punch. Women don’t compete for males. You can see this all over the animal kingdom. Males are so obsessed with their idea of being protectors or leaders, they ignore the bits of “evolution” that don’t support their fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:09 PM
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I think it’s also when the age gap happens. Life really does change after your mid 20s for most people. 18/30 is completely different to, say, 30/42.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:44 PM
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Because it shows he has no discrimination. You don’t go round propositioning multiple strangers when looking for a LTR. If you were, you wouldn’t be just shooting shots.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:37 PM
1

Are you in high school? This sounds like teenagers. Why would women need to compete anyhow? Or is this more of this fiction that women are chasing only 20% of guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:35 PM
1

Seems pretty equal, tbh. Where’s this 61% from? Is this the Pew research which no other study seems able to replicate?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:32 PM
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That’s not what’s being said at all, though. There’s an element of “creep”, or at least developmentally arrested in people who chase others 1/2 their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:19 PM
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It’s because men do manipulate women. Look at all the posts here where it’s all about just getting pussy & pump and dump. So why should women take the risk some friendless loner is just misunderstood, when it’s just as likely there’s a reason he has no friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:16 PM
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Where did you get this idea from? I don’t get what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:14 PM
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Why? If other women want you, chances are you’re attractive and have a personality. Or at least you’re rich: depends what type of girl you’re attracting. Women can easily figure this out on their own. I’m not sure what scenario you envisage where women are “competing” with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:12 PM
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Stop being dramatic. It’s not a “crime”, but the fact it’s just “a girl” because you want some casual sex isn’t something women should sympathise with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:05 PM
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True, you only have a few attempts before you poison the well, but that’s not necessarily because women care what other women think. It’s because watching a guy hit on multiple girls shows what he’s up to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:14 PM
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The fact I actually am a girl, with loads of female friends and I’ve worked in hospitality for years… sorry- I don’t believe you. Sure, you’ve got nothing to lose. Meanwhile, it’s not spectacular, or interesting to have strangers try and hit on you as you go about your day. Doing it to your waitress is just power-tripping. If you’re pleasant, don’t have high expectations, enjoy the game and don’t take anything personally, then by all means, go for it. I think the problem is guys frame it as “rej…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 02:55 PM
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Women don’t need “resources”. Sadly for you, you don’t live in the days when women could only get menial jobs and couldn’t control their fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:04 PM
2

What wall? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:11 PM
1

No, it’s because we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:11 PM
1

So if you’re ugly & deep, then obviously you’re not going to be the one going for the cute girl, are you? That would be shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:29 AM
4

Sigh. The biggest beneficiaries are companies who can continue to pay low wages, knowing the tax payer will bump it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:12 PM
5

So what makes you think men were ever a better bargain?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:05 PM
1

Women? Or single mothers?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:46 PM
3

Men have always done that. It’s not a new feature of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:43 PM
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I think you hit the nail on the head: red pilled men are unlikely to have been on a date. And when they do, they will draw in the type of woman they say they’re not attracted to. They will looksmaxx, show off their success, be sexist and use “RP strategies”- which all works to get you a woman who’s primarily interested in your looks, your money, and expects you to maintain a traditional gender role.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:45 PM
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Ummm… I said I live in the uk. No idea why you feel I needed to have this explained to me. And it’s not “meaningless” to blame the Tories, who’ve been in power for close to 15 years. It’s obvious, I’ll grant you. But privatising the NHS has always been a long term goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:36 PM
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I’m not sure how you flirt without talking, but you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:51 PM
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We have a conservative government. It’s right wingers who wet themselves over gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:51 PM
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Yes. It’s flirting. It’s kind of hard to get a woman to sleep with you if you’re not capable of conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:40 PM
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Men do this anyhow, most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:39 PM
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Exactly. I live in the uk too and it’s long term underfunding that’s killed us, with Brexit as the cherry on the cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:37 PM
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Horny dudes sliding into your DMs aren’t “suitors”.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 09:03 AM
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I mean… you probably are inferior in some way, and that’s why they’re your boss. And if you could get their job somewhere else for more money, you’d probably bail immediately, since your salary is what’s keeping you there. Insecure people- especially men - are obsessed with seeing themselves as “leader”. Most relationships are based on exchange, agreement, disagreement & compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 09:01 AM
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I didn’t read any phoney compliments in what they said. Yes - people chat & make small talk all the time. But guys in a mission to pump & dump find this too difficult, and think they’re above basic communication. It’s odd you immediately went to “talk at” as opposed to “talk to”.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:54 AM
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I don’t think it’s the point he’s making. Flirting should be a game with low expectations. Guys “studying” RP bullshit and getting angry no one immediately wants sex with them on sight have made it all depressing. Too many guys like to think conversation that doesn’t lead to immediate reward isn’t “worth their time” (like they’re doing more than just lying under a duvet getting depressed). Finding commonality is the first step of communicating. Yes- I’d find that wanky even though I love coffee,…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:26 AM
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You think women are less disadvantaged by being used for sex than a guy who’s ghosted before anything started? That’s a weird, deeply narcissistic take on things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:24 PM
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So… because you waited until after you got what you wanted, somehow that’s better? Deserves more sympathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:22 PM
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How is this incel content? Is it because I’m using the same rp arguments & agreeing with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:52 PM
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“Allowing these men into their lives” is outright victim blaming. How come men in her family or at work allowed the rapist into their life? Why did the guy who owns the grocery store allow a rapist to be hired? Why did the cops allow a guy they suspect has raped several women to remain free?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:01 PM
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What about it? I don’t see anything corroborating your statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:57 PM
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That’s not how the average single guy defines his single state, though. That’s how incels define it. Most guys aren’t incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:50 PM
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By “universally” you mean “defined by men”, in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:47 PM
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I mean - that’s how women feel about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:41 PM
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They know the perpetrator. That doesn’t mean they like the perpetrator, or that he’s a chad. It just means he has access to her and is able to use the relationship- whether familial, or work related, or “guy at the grocery store” to leverage an opportunity to rape. “Multiple women are allowing”… what?? Did you just say women “allow” a rape to happen? Or are they serial rapists because so few end up in court before they’ve acted multiple times? You haven’t used “common sense” OR used any data wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:38 PM
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Sounds like they’re being realistically picky. Why date you if there’s more attractive men out there? Chances are if you’ve not matured in the slightest compared with your 20 year old self, you weren’t a great catch anyhow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:20 PM
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Because every man is ruled by his penis is of no interest to most women. First off- we can’t see it. Aside from OLD having vastly more men than women on these sites, they’re also looking for different things. 30% of men only want casual, whereas only 10% of women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:49 PM
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While I agree, it’s sad that RP men have deliberately boxed themselves into a corner by disparaging any woman who finds a man attractive who isnt good looking, or where the attraction built due to his other qualities as being some transactional mammal who is merely using him for whatever reason. What you’re saying is men want the same as I do when I say “I want to be Beyoncé”, even though I can’t sing, I’m not musical, and I’m not a dancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:02 PM
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I’d lay a lot of money betting on this conversation never having happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:42 PM
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No data like this exists. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_sexual_violence
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:36 PM
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You’re not in a desert, though. Not getting laid isn’t going to cause you to die. Which is why women don’t go after every man: it’s not something life-threatening. Just because you live ruled by your penis doesn’t mean women have to accommodate it. It’s ludicrous to “blame” women, even if the idea they only go for the top 20% were true, which it isn’t. That stupid graph you all meme doesn’t show the rest of the data, where despite only finding a few men attractive vs how men rated women’s physic…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:21 PM
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So… you don’t know the meaning of hypogamy then. HypOgamy. Typical of this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:48 AM
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All you’ve done here is regurgitate a bunch of spiv you sucker up from YouTube. What possible “decisions” are there where your masculinity is required? What restaurant to go to? The movie choice? Is this where your assertive leadership gets to shine? Sweet Jesus, you guys are so obsessed by this NEED you have to be seen as an “authority” by women. It’s what explains male hypogamy so well, which is more of a relevant issue when it comes to relationships: men require to feel superior, so this inse…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:16 AM
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Eh? Basically someone not into proscribed gender roles and old fashioned traditional conservative views on how a marriage should be run. They look for an equal partnership as opposed to the pathetic “man leader” garbage. Guys are too obsessed with the “who’s boss” thing. Sometimes 2 heads are better than one. Sometimes you’re wrong, sometimes you aren’t as good or experienced or objective in a certain circumstance. They look for an equal partner instead of a “virgin who’ll take care of the house…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 10:42 PM
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Well adjusted, confident people don’t even think to ask this stuff once you age out of your early 20s. Most guys who just have a lot of ONS aren’t good in bed. It’s not something women find attractive- that’s a guy on guy thing. Men seem to hero worship guys who shag indiscriminately. Again, it’s not something normal people ask each other as adults. Same as I wouldn’t know a guy was a virgin unless he told me. Why? Because, like I said, just because a guy has had a lot of sex doesn’t mean he’s a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:58 PM
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No, it doesn’t. How is making a very good observation immediately a “defence mechanism” just because it doesn’t back up your claim? Thailand has for decades has had a reputation as a place where predatory older men and pedophiles go “Thailand has a reputation for engaging in one of the largest child sex trade operations in Southeast Asia. UNICEF estimates the number of Thai children involved in prostitution to be between 60,000 and 200,000, though the organization says the exact number is diffic…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 11:02 AM
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That’s not a male feminist. Male feminists understand equality. Idolising women and putting them on a pedestal and thinking you’re their only defence against a big, bad world doesn’t make you a feminist. Women are human, so, yes… women can be aggressive and tend to use more covert forms.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:08 PM
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Women may have an “abundance” of sexual choices if she were exclusively interested in fucking. Most women aren’t. This is irrelevant when it comes to a romantic partner. The men she can choose for casual sex are not the same as those for a life partner. Do they have a high chance of finding a male who’ll stick around for the kids and be a good husband? How do you know? What are you defining as “good husband”? Out of all single men, only 22% are looking for a committed relationship. Does that aut…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:00 PM
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40+ countries in Asia. Not a “massively false generalisation” when you give only one example. “Yah, but Singapore, therefore all Asia” 🙄 Also… That’s… not a contrapositive. Your proof doesn’t even align with your statement. Passport bros bore me. They’re not new, sex tourism has been a thing for decades. I’d never touch them, so if they pay for a bride, whatever. I still find them pathetic, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:53 PM
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No, I don’t, actually. I tend to actually listen to what feminists say instead of purposely misquoting, or pretending a lame meme originated from them. Why would a feminist call a woman “mindless” just because of her age? Immature, inexperienced, vulnerable, perhaps, but not mindless. One thing that stands out about this sub is people here don’t know how to use words very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:42 PM
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Except they don’t. It’s obviously not clear to you at all if you think feminists are talking about women in their late 20s. The meme (created by a man/boy) isn’t what feminists say. You’re just being deliberately or genuinely obtuse. Anyhow, this is as exciting as talking to a spade.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:38 PM
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They’re not “little children”. The side-eyes are for the wrinkly person. Do I approve of the kid’s choice? No, but she’s an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:31 PM
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The word you want is women. First we’re talking about a meme, now you pretend I’m the one who’s exaggerating, and now switch the parameters to something mundane. Are you also pretending women are calling a 28 year old a “mindless adult”?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:34 PM
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I’ve never heard a feminist call a 20 yo woman a “mindless adult”. If I were to think anything, I’d think picking an 83 yo millionaire sounds like she has plans. But I also think it’s creepy AF to impregnate a woman who’s younger than your own kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:06 PM
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Men making memes?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 12:52 PM
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This is what I mean. No- she probably isn’t. This adolescent clinging onto an imaginary trad gender role & fictionalised “bio essentialism” is why y’all are here struggling to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:22 AM
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Are you now talking passport bros? Or are you talking westernised Asian women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:20 AM
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No. It’s because pill lickers aren’t capable of grasping complexity. They’re desperate to make everything simple while making sure they can always view women negatively. They also frequently make the conversation they’re having about “getting sex” without being specific. So when women talk about things that don’t make sense to them- because women aren’t horndoggies led by their peepee, they get confused. A woman can see a really hot guy who wants to fuck her. She can see he’s attractive and ALSO…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:39 AM
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Dating an Asian woman can quite often be racist. Its a “preference” based on an expectation of getting more of what men like to call “traditional”, which is in effect “I wanna be the big boy & also not have to clean my room ever again”. Same as a woman dating another race can also be racist. There’s also intersectionality, where there’s different disadvantages that can be gendered, racial, or socioeconomic. A lot of Asian countries are known for being deeply sexist- it’s a big issue. The issue t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:27 AM
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I know. But the dudes on here think we are. Blah blah 80/20 tears, rage “spinning plates”, whine, diaper dump “hypergamy”…. Yawn. Get some sleep. It’s not worth it 😂 I say that yet I also keep coming back for the absurdity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:21 AM
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Dunno- ask the other guy. He seems to think so. Because we don’t fuck them, that means we’re too picky. Or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:10 AM
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I understood precisely what you said. Of course men agree with “feminist” laws: they’re about equality. The facade they used to hide their oppression fell apart after women joined in en masse to replace men at the factories, farms, transport and government during the wars. Pretending “women were the weaker sex” beyond that made them look stupid. I’m not grateful to men for recognising me as an equal human being, same as black people have no reason to be grateful to white men either. Being expose…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:39 AM
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You really know so little about geopolitics you think that’s the reason the Taliban fought? 😂 You’re right: there’d be nothing I could do about it. So why are you pretending men are protectors instead of violent, authoritarian rapists held in check by laws? Do you think black men should be grateful as they’d still be slaves if white men hadn’t agreed with them? Who are these cops and military “protecting” me from? Other men. Men like you, raging against equality and that you can’t just buy a tee…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:00 AM
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Fair enough. I suspect it won’t be long until it’s a moot point, however. Voluntary euthanasia will become more and more socially acceptable, even among the pseudo religious once they see the money it will save.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:10 AM
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What are you insecure about? Your hypocrisy and double standards? How can those make you insecure?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:21 AM
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How is your “I see tons” not anecdotal but mine is?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:12 AM
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But you’re biologically evolved to fight & compete amongst yourselves and simp for sex. What’s that last paragraph about? Is that your real desires coming out? You miss when men forced women to do things by brute force and violence? Lol. Tell me again how y’all “protect” women… 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:39 AM
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Elder care is predominantly done by women in the family. Men are also far more likely to dump a woman if she becomes severely ill compared to a wife who will stick around & nurse him thru it. And, yes, the ladies we’re friends with in our 80s DO help with care. No, they won’t nurse you, but they’ll be there for you. My mum’s whole team of girlfriends & her sister make sure between then to visit her at least once/week, despite them all being in failing health themselves. Don’t get me wrong, I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:32 AM
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It’s creepy because she’s just become adult, which isn’t really subjective. You have lived 50% longer than she has. When you were her age, she was 10. This is why a 10 year age gap becomes less important as you (she) gets older. It’s nothing to do with what the government has set as age of majority. In the states, I believe she can’t even get into bars yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:10 AM
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You mean the 82,000 sex abuse cases? How’s that women’s fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 12:42 AM
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They score highly in breed temperament tests. They don’t actually have a strong prey drive, just average. They’re mostly treated with abuse & punishment based training from knuckle draggers who like to think they’re “alpha leader”. They’re definitely one of the most abused breeds around, because little men think it gives them status.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 12:25 AM
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Dude… you guys just seem really insecure, and there’s a strong smell of “shit in bed” around you. Hypocrisy & double standards are a huge turn off. That’s so adorable you think it’s because we’d want a guy like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 12:09 AM
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No - you just enjoy dehumanising women. Makes you feel smart, I guess. Manly? Probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 09:50 PM
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Lol. That’s the problem with subjective beliefs. It’s light arguing with a wet curtain.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 09:49 PM
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And yet every study asking “if a hot stranger came up to you & offered sex, would you agree?”, the vast majority of men said yes, whereas for women it was 0%.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 09:12 PM
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It’s the entire problem of TRP, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 09:09 PM
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You don’t see it because they’re not swiping indiscriminately. Going after any old bag just because you want to get your nuts emptied doesn’t make you less superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 09:08 PM
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It is. You just don’t know much about grammar, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 08:56 PM
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Toxic masculinity was first labelled and defined as such by a mens rights activist group. To force men into what society labelled “masculine” was toxic to men. It’s not feminist propaganda. I can’t help that you don’t educate yourself from respected sources, instead you get suckered by misogynist propaganda from anonymous anyone’s you see on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 08:34 PM
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Wow. No… woman is the equivalent to just “man”, they’re both nouns for humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 08:30 PM
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Sigh. Language does evolve, but the fact females is used by misogynists in the manosphere to dehumanise women, simply means that as a noun, it still holds that intent (which it has for ever - it’s been considered derogatory even as an adjective at various times over the centuries). I can’t imagine many situations that call for you to repeatedly be talking about women and girls where they’re equivalent, unless you’re discussing biology. Which is the only place it is used as a noun.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 08:27 PM
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It’s not about whether men like it or not. It’s the gender roles determined by millennia of male dominated, male controlled society that dictated these roles. This sub, and all the pills, are fully concerned with men and how to gain advantage over women. You don’t get to go “nyuh, all females are hypergamic gold diggers but I still wanna fuck them” then ALSO go “WAAAH!! it’s so mean that women are conforming to the views I like to use to insult them with!” Why is it not derogatory when speaking …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 07:56 PM
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Yes. Because that’s how dumb it sounds, and likely has the same malice behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 07:43 PM
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You could actually google the terms I’ve used so you understand what they mean. The trad male role was created by men as a positive expression of masculinity. This is why believing in them isn’t misandry. It’s misogynistic for you to expect a woman to confine herself to 4 walls, it’s her working on the principles designed by men to keep women in a submissive role which is her having internalised that sexist view. Misandry would be being derogatory. For example: “men are incapable of taking care …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 07:27 PM
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How is this toxic? RP men constantly bang on about this is what women do, and this is what a top tier guy is. Agreeing with you isn’t “misandry”, it’s internalised misogyny. Which is what expecting men to conform to their gender roles dictated by the patriarchy is. If you want a housewife, then by definition you NEED TO stick to traditional gender roles: it’s the trade off for getting a housewife. Women also work on themselves. The fat, lazy ones won’t get the “top 20”. No one is forcing you int…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 07:03 PM
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Do you mean cis women? No, haven’t a clue what my chromosomes are and couldn’t give a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:55 PM
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There’s no power dynamics btwn 2 virgins. I’ve personally not seen a woman call a man gross because he’s a virgin, but I’m sure there’s plenty who find it a turn off. Frankly, every man cums within 10 minutes the first time, so there’s no reason it’d be obvious you’re a virgin anyhow. Also, loads and loads of men who’ve had lots of sex are crap at it. It’s not complicated to have sex, and particularly those who are after just ONS never up their game beyond “pump & dump”. It’s literally a descrip…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:43 PM
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Because it’s an adjective. The fact that the noun for “female human” is woman, and you’re refusing to use it, shows it’s deliberately intended to be derogatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:28 PM
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What about them? Should I assume when you use female as a noun that you’re a zoophiliac? That you’re primarily concerned with satisfying your fantasies about bestiality? Because when used as a noun, it’s used to describe animals & plants. This sub is almost entirely cis hetero, and the men aren’t interested in trans women, nor do they feel the need to make the distinction to separate themselves from trans men. Trans woman & trans man are the words grownups use.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:26 PM
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Only if it’s important to you that you signal your dislike of trans people. I know in some circles that gets you a lot of pats on the head. Otherwise you could use more adult words. There’s no need for you to use “female” when the context is obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:15 PM
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It’s an adjective, little man. See how “little” is an adjective? It IS belittling, which is EXACTLY why you do it. The correct word for a female(adj) human(n) is “woman”. Pretending you’re not deliberately belittling and being misogynistic and blaming women for “overreacting” to what’s patently a way to dehumanise them is called “gaslighting”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:02 PM
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I don’t see women claiming only toxic women go after toxic men. What I see is an awful lot of men on here who blame her for ending up in an abusive relationship, because she didn’t sleep with him - who is inevitably the decent, nice guy in his own head.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:31 PM
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What scientific theories do you base your beliefs on? One of the most striking things, to me, about RP “theory”, is how little it’s based on actual science. Most of it is taken (very often from only an abstract, and not the full study) from evo psych, which itself is very sketchy anyhow: there’s scant evidence of what human society was actually like, so an awful lot seems to be taking a hypothesis and creating possibilities that justify it, without any concrete facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:27 PM
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I’m getting confused what you’re upset about. You keep changing the parameters: if YOU had been rumoured to be a bad father, do you think women would have still seen you as husband material? So- if her looks went due to stress, men would criticise that, and also be less likely to do what the women did to you- ie, talked about all your good points. Yet if a man were to be charitable, you see that as men protecting women, whereas when women were “charitable” to you & your situation, it seems to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:58 PM
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Those are 2 different things. If you had still been “hot”, those comments wouldn’t have been made. You’d still have been appreciated for being “hot”, despite… your behaviour declining? Or is it just women whose behaviour declines? If a woman had let herself go as you say you had, I doubt most men would be talking about her as “still wife material”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:24 PM
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There’s lots of talk about women being “worshipped”, but that isn’t actually a real benefit, or even the reality. Putting women on a pedestal is a way to control behaviour: it’s only a very small platform, and whether you stay up there or not is entirely dependent on the person who put you there, and the only way you can move is down. If you fall off the pedestal, you’re met with anger and accused of being deceitful.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 12:17 PM
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Definitely not flattering and it sucks when life takes such a toll on you it affects you physically. However this is also pretty standard for how men would talk about a woman. They probably wouldn’t go into all the ways they’d make a good partner, I guess, but they’d still criticise her appearance without taking into account or having sympathy for what else may be going on in her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 12:07 PM
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“Simple observation”= interpreted entirely thru the lens of my deeply held biases (probably why this sub is so scarce on actual evidence). And I’m not splitting hairs. There’s a vast difference between confident & aggressive. For example, the majority of men who comment on this sub are aggressive: An aggressive personality trait or trait aggressiveness has been defined as “a general propensity to engage in acts of physical and verbal aggression, a proneness to anger, and a proneness to hold host…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 12:02 PM
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What part of the world do you live in where women go up to random strangers going “hey, baby, I think you’re unfuckable but great husband material”?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 10:16 AM
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Confident, yes; aggressive, no. This varies wildly so we could argue all day. For example, if you’re just a kid from a conservative country/background that adheres to strict gender roles, then you probably see this more than I do. You also keep changing your characters. You have a bunch of characters in your head, where confidence & aggression go hand in hand, and quiet & reserved immediately correlates with “not toxic”. It’s kind of tiresome. Quiet & reserved guy is quite capable of becoming ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:36 AM
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You’re assuming “shy & reserved” is somehow not someone who’s chock full of toxic traits and is manipulating the situation. There’s plenty of toxic guys who appear quiet and nerdy as well, or are “moral and decent”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:26 AM
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Guys always act like they’re immune to this sort of thing, yet it happens all the time to them as well. Look at the millions who’ve been duped with crypto scams or Ponzi schemes that promise high interest It’s the same set up: everything looks legit and professional, you do your research and can’t find anything wrong. They’re friendly, talk a good game. So you invest a bit, and bam- it’s real, you see these huge profits, you start believing. You invest some more. Then more. Then things don’t tur…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:21 AM
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I doubt she’s even liberal. She’s just pandering for views and hoping to “go viral”- which I’ve never seen as a description for a TikTok video with under 10k views.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 10:11 AM
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So… no one should have children because it’s impossible to predict the future. Gotcha. Is this considered a “high IQ” statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 07:25 PM
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Who said they didn’t want them? What about women whose “man” has run off? Anyone who frames these issues as “well, I didn’t do it so anyone unlike me is therefore lesser than me” is someone incapable of empathy, anyhow.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 02:28 PM
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Of course you do. It’s called confirmation bias. The opposite of critical thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:15 PM
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Lol- so, everyone who disagrees with trp is emotional, except when rp guys “sound” emotional, they’re not really triggered, they’re just “speaking forcefully” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:07 PM
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It’s not bad faith. You’re acting like men will die if they don’t get to have sex. The costs for women are equally high when committing to a relationship. Some would say more so, the way boys on here go on about women’s body counts. Men making themselves “available” for casual sex aren’t “choices” women have. Considering at minimum a third of men on OLD are after just hookups, that’s reduced a woman’s choice significantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:23 PM
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Weird that women are more likely to stay single after a bad relationship then.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:59 PM
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Can you show me any data that proves women have this incredible advantage? Is this where boys pretend “I wanna fuck” is the same as women looking for LTR’s? As usual, you’ve only paid lip service to the idea that men are shamed for abandoning children. What you’ve really done is laid the blame 100% on the woman, because according to you, she chose an asshole over someone decent. Are you the decent guy in this scenario? You sound like the asshole, tbh. So… the man just shagging anything that move…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:53 PM
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So, are you saying men are just dumb, insipid cattle led my their penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:47 PM
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Sure. Or they’re looking to become an influencer, or monetise it somehow. I never see any of it myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:36 PM
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Not angry, just not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:25 PM
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Omg dude. I don’t care. It’ll be however you imagine it’ll be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:44 PM
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They totally agree with your perception of women & men and decide to use RP beliefs to get a superior mate. Unsurprising they’re quarantined : it’s RP philosophy, same as most of the male sites got banned. They’re technically the perfect woman for a RP dude. Exactly as transactional as rp men, don’t want to sleep around and lower their value, believe all the shite about submitting to a worthy man… they’re actually the wet dream. Men seem to get angry about it because they like to think they’re t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:20 PM
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Because those are free.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:08 PM
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This list is as good as any. The problem with abusers is they usually start with love-bombing and it’s like the frog in a pot of water- it’s already boiling before you realise you’re in danger. The common trick is they will be “perfect”. Literally the most amazing, caring, wonderful guy ever. They’ll want to know everything about you. They’ll be madly in love with you very quickly. So then- when you make a mistake, they now turn the tables and blame you for their behaviour. Even if you didn’t- t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:07 PM
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Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 04:52 PM
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Simply not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 04:42 PM
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I’m just picturing you trying to cope with a VR session of your creepy sex preference being broken up with random ads to virtually squeeze the Charmin, feel the real handshake of your senator, & smell McD’s newest burger. Not to mention you being watched by a task force watching you play out your depravity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 02:27 PM
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The father doesn’t pay either. Why not? Because plenty of males are innately selfish and irresponsible. The law considers it unfair that the child should shoulder the burden of having a man child be the sperm donor.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:34 AM
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The thing is, you don’t get “financial autonomy” when you have responsibilities. The child will not cost $0.00 to raise. Just because you want to keep all your money for yourself doesn’t factor into the equation. I’ve read some gross horror stories, like men jailed & the CS payments keep accruing, but America is just such a corrupt system that loves to imprison its population, I’m not surprised. Especially the republicans are looking more & more like the fucking taliban. That’s the problem with …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:06 AM
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It’s not really that that I’m getting at. There’s a lot of women who wouldn’t have an abortion. So to just say the guy can wash his hands if it if he doesn’t fancy it doesn’t work. I’m not actually keen on men being forced into this position if they didn’t want it, tbh. But until abortions are universally available, free and accessible and no longer stigmatised, you can’t just assume that you prioritising her wallet means she can just go get one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:01 PM
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Yeah- it criticises them in the intro. I’m not criticising the study, I’m criticising your belief that this study says what you think it does. Although, considering it was a midwestern university study done on midwestern teens, internalised misogyny would be assumed to be prevalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:31 PM
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This is the study I’ve always seen, which is more recent & involves 10x as many people, where it’s 86% for lesbians and 65% for hetero women. You’re also assuming 1 time having sex = 1 orgasm. Most of my lesbian friends consider the first merely foreplay. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-017-0939-z
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:29 PM
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Bodily autonomy is not the same as financial obligations and responsibility towards the care of a child. I’m sorry you’re too immature to understand the difference. Women also are not free of this obligation. If she surrendered custody to the father, she would still be required to pay child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:17 PM
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I just read some of that study you posted. That’s not what it seemed to say at all. It also noted that this was a small study with a median age of 19, and in particular it was done in a midwestern university so they’re likely more conservative with traditional “values” (ie old fashioned ideas)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:03 PM
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I’m not remotely trying to decrease men’s rights. And I don’t know about where you live, but here in the uk CS is a whopping 12%, not half. And- if you have a child, the child is the priority, not you. Men have this laughable idea that their money covers 100% of expenses. I also find it funny how men whine about child support AND whine about not getting custody: putting your own needs above your child should guarantee you’re not a good custodian whose interest is his own children.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:44 PM
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No. Personally I think it’s the most responsible action.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:40 PM
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Because it’s her body. Childbirth is one of the most physically traumatic events you can put your body thru. Same as if a kid of yours needed an organ transplant and yours was perfect, no one is going to pin you down and remove it from you without your consent. They can’t even force you to give blood, ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:31 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:29 PM
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What if they’re both Christian? Or their whole community is evangelical and strongly against abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:28 PM
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Because most men will wash their hands of responsibility. The government puts the child’s welfare above both parents when it comes to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:25 PM
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The problem is when a child is going to be born, then the focus shifts to the child as the primary, and exclusive concern. This is also how child support works. I don’t really understand the American system, but even if the woman agrees to leave you financially free, the government won’t. I read something about a guy in exactly that situation, but she had to name him in order to get Medicaid, and then the government pursued him. Likewise here, the government wouldn’t agree that taxpayers should …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:23 PM
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Exactly. But that’s why a guy can’t get to decide after the pregnancy occurs. Look at how many guys are whining about paying child support for kids that are already born.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:03 PM
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Well, I don’t know about you but I tend to get to know a person first. I wouldn’t have sex with a religious person, for example, because I don’t like their limited views and way of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:57 PM
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From the time we hit puberty (and often before that) men start groping us, catcalling and all the rest of the creepy shit they do. It’s not “power”, it’s the opposite: you’re now an object that men will look at and comment on, whether this attention is wanted or not. Women who post thirst traps or whatever else you’re bitter about are usually the opposite of insecure. Some like attention, some don’t, if you don’t like it then don’t look at them. It’s not complicated. Stop moaning about OF. I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:51 PM
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No, before sex even happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:25 PM
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That would just make men more careless about who they sleep with. Unless they get evidence that they’d made this clear before they had sex, that both parties were in agreement that if sex resulted in pregnancy she would abort it, then guys can’t just wash their hands after the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:14 PM
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Yup. It’s quite an assumption that quantity is of more importance than quality. Also, male orgasm shouldn’t be “cutting off activities”, it only “cuts off” one. Which is also not the primary way women orgasm, so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 11:03 AM
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Sure. Unlike most posts here, I’m not trying to speak for every man. I was actually trying to be polite including men in that, because it’s more acceptable for a man to need to satisfy his urges if they’re not being fulfilled at home, whereas a woman is considered a “home wrecker” when she does the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:07 AM
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It’s based on far more evidence than that it’s nature/nurture. Public attitude has little and often nothing to do with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:56 PM
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… where did I say it’s the majority? But it’s rising very fast as women become financially independent, so this idea “all women want a guy with money” doesn’t hold water.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:22 PM
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Having known many, many top 1% of earners, being disagreeable isn’t common. Most love their job and are happy working 60+ hours. They also have the money to farm out all the things we don’t, like cooking & cleaning. They have PTs, spas, holidays, therapists, masseuses… pretty much anything they need.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:25 PM
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How come lesbians don’t have this issue if all women experience less arousal? This doesn’t even make sense unless you’re trying to ignore the elephant. Everything is heightened when it’s new, or risky. This is the same for men as well. Just because he or she isn’t acting the same as when they first met doesn’t mean they’re any less attracted to their partner. And actually being a woman who definitely has an exponentially larger female friend group than you, and who’s also had many conversations …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:17 PM
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No, it’s an instinctive reaction brought on by constant exposure. You also assume any rejection is “fear” based, when it’s not. Anyone will develop an instinct with experience. Gardeners will instinctively know what a plant needs. Dirt bike riders will instinctively adjust their weight and grip if they feel the track a certain way. It’s not magic or rocket science, it’s just bog standard adaptation. That socially awkward dude who’s blatantly only trying to hit on women isn’t making me fearful wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:54 PM
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How is herd mentality innate? Where’d you pull this profound observation from?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:42 PM
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The fact that you imagine a successful woman would automatically be “stiff, disagreeable and look 10 years older than her actual age” is entirely down to your insecurities. Not to mention her being out of your league.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:36 PM
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Not true, and there’s plenty of studies to prove it. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/why-bad-looks-good/202207/how-do-men-feel-about-dating-a-woman-who-makes-more-money https://scitechdaily.com/mens-stress-increases-if-wife-earns-more-than-40-of-household-income/ Women out-earn men in about 1/3rd of couples now. Your assumptions are old and out of date.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:32 PM
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Men do care how much a woman earns, and don’t like her earning more than him. The more their values are trad con, the more this affects their masculinity. Women in general won’t marry down financially because they tend to do more domestic labour, take a financial hit from raising kids & do the bulk of the childcare, along with being primary caregivers later on for older relatives. Why would she take a huge cut in life quality and take on extra labour? Both sexes should have an open understanding…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:00 PM
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While I agree the men who would physically attack a woman for rejecting him is small, they’re also repeat offenders. You weirdly seem to be inferring that, so long as it didn’t get physical- then all other sexual harassment is trivial and them getting “pissed, very pissed” is irrelevant. And there’s very few white knights, either. These days they’re too busy recording the event on their phones, or they’re little dweebs like yourself who debase anyone acting on principles or just being kind is ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:28 PM
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He’s using his wealth and passport to talk to a girl. Not sure what you’re asking as you understand full well that passport bros are using this as leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:33 PM
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Knowing loads of gay men since the 80s, a LOT of them have serious, committed relationships AND casual sex outside of it. A good friend has been the “other” for a guy who’s married to his (male) partner for about 15 years now. They even go on holiday together, but he only sleeps with the one. Another couple who are close friends have been married for 17 years, but D will occasionally hit the sauna after work to suck some cock, while A will sometimes bring back a sexy dude for them to have a thre…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:44 PM
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A large percentage of anyone in dire poverty will do anything for money. It’s just another form of a guy paying for sex services. And doctors used to marry nurses because there weren’t female surgeons.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:40 AM
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You guys are different than here. Like, our tech hub is just an area of London, so plenty of places to go out. But again, like you said, it’s environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 06:14 PM
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It doesn’t matter how expensive it is, you can’t prey on poorer women who want a passport.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 06:12 PM
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Software engineers often don’t do well in dating because they’re surrounded by men. Yes, environment plays a factor: go out and socialise more. Doctors have a persona of “rich and attractive”, but in reality they mostly marry other doctors. They work too many hours and it’s a job that’s best understood by someone who does the same. Passport bros aren’t going to the Netherlands because they can’t afford it & their passport isn’t particularly attractive. They can’t use the lower socioeconomics and…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 06:05 PM
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No- I see plenty of bragging, vanity & jealousy in males. There’s actually a big community of males -incels- which are the very embodiment of this. This sub exists mostly because males like yourself look for any and every opportunity they can find to put down, insult and dehumanise women. It’s pure jealousy to say women thrive on attention- just because you wish you had it yourself. Like pretending the world is still a jungle for males where they need to “strive or die”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 12:08 PM
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Which is weird, because if you stick to evolution as rp dudes love to do, what you find is it’s the males constantly vying amongst themselves & trying to seek attention by proving how much better they are than the other men. They’re constantly obsessed with how they compare to other men and what rank they achieve in the pack.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:54 AM
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You can’t really talk about “evolved instinct” without talking about millennia of women being restricted. For most of human history, women have been forbidden to work, not permitted to own property, not able to pass on inheritance etc etc. You also can’t just talk about hypergamy without discussing the very real hypOgamy of males when it comes to feeling threatened by a woman being your equal or better in what has been - also historically - the male role of “provider”. The more conservative you …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:47 AM
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How is this incredibly dumb “test” exposing anything? It’s never been 100% of women say anything. So he put up a post for a good looking one night shag with no strings, and got interest from women who wanted that. The same woman who wouldnt be interested in this type for a relationship, could also be up for it for a night. I’ve never understood the need to watch low quality, uneducated YouTubers who only want to monetise their pathetic opinion pieces.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:17 PM
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Dude, I’m not justifying anything. My original comment was because just because some ex Google data analyst geek crunched some numbers, doesn’t mean his interpretation of the results are correct. Other people have examined other data and seen that women orgasming is only in 10% of content - and that doesn’t mean “therefore women would enjoy it”. Most porn is still made for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:57 PM
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You need to stop making absolute statements out of just your feelings. It sounds immature and doesn’t lead to any sort of debate, just arguing. No idea what your last sentence was supposed to mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:19 PM
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No- during the menopause is a bitch. I honestly thought I’d never want sex again. AFTER… well, hot damn & colour me happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:16 PM
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I’m openly admitting it. I already stated it’s what I watch. The reasons I give are also the reasons I find it more erotic. But I’m also not into vanilla sex, I find male focused hetero porn to be much like ONS sex (boring, all about dick pummelling), and watching super-young teens doing it turns me off. I don’t want to watch a scrawny teen in an incest story, or a MILF GETS CREEMED IN HER FACE video. Even if they happen to orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:14 PM
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No. I’m not comparing, that’s data. Porn is mostly made for men, it’s dick-centric, it’s not about female pleasure. No- I understand what I wrote and it means for every 10 male orgasms filmed, 1 female orgasm is filmed. Did I say women enjoy watching women orgasm? I’ve never thought of porn as “guys like watching other guys cum”. So… nix all your cutesy pie talk. What I said was it’s focused on female pleasure (like porn with dicks cumming isn’t about that, it’s about being centred on male pleas…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:06 PM
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Sure. No one said 100% of women always look at non consent porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:02 PM
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50 shades was abysmally written, I couldn’t be arsed after 10 pages. There actually isnt plenty of porn where women orgasm. The data is 90% don’t have that. And even then I’d suggest many are fake. I’m sorry the data doesn’t suit your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:11 PM
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It’s very common for an extroverted hot woman to be voluntarily single. We don’t have to lower our standards at all. Most of us are perfectly happy, with our own big social group & a big box of toys we know what to do with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:22 AM
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Exactly. All hetero vanilla porn tends to be dick focussed and the woman is the object of the male fantasy. I certainly don’t fantasise “pretend I’m 15 again”, although maybe some women fantasise about themselves being completely different. This is the problem with a “data scientist” who then eliminates data that hadn’t occurred to him (or it did, but didn’t add to the bias he was attempting to prove, so he ignored it) coming out as some expert on … “everybody lies”. I’ve not read whatever OP ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 11:12 AM
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Those studies about women with a history being less likely to have a LTR don’t say that. The point is that virgins usually have some sort of religious background, where divorce is frowned on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 10:52 AM
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I don’t think it means anything. One thing that’s not in this data you describe is female orgasm. Most rape/non consent/ restricted porn I’ve seen involves at least one, if not multiple female orgasms, whereas the average hetero porn, the orgasm rate m:f is 10:1. The m:f for receiving oral sex is 3:1. Most other porn revolves around dicks (either 1 or multiple) pummelling a vagina, then smearing cum across her face. Not a #1 female fantasy. Nor is it an average female fantasy to have sex with yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 10:47 AM
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There’s absolutely no difference to what you said to any other western country. In America, poor people get worse healthcare. I’ve no idea what “tolerance” in minority communities has to do with a woman entering a hospital to give birth. Which cultures in America are you talking about? It’s a racist issue when you see how black and indigenous people are treated compared to white. It’s a sexist issue when you see how women are treated compared to men. If your hospitals were being run by these sup…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 09:35 PM
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That’s not an ethnic issue, it’s a wealth issue, and particularly for certain minorities in America (indigenous and black) it’s also an issue of racism. It’s not “on” those communities. It’s “on” America treating its citizens as secondary and obstacles to corporate wealth accumulation. Viability doesn’t vary “a lot”. It’s still fairly specific. The earliest preterm baby to survive is 21 1/2 weeks. Artificial wombs doesn’t prove that forced birthers were morally “right”, how did you get there? It…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 08:47 PM
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No- we don’t “love” to assume the debate is settled. We just use science- and more importantly, we don’t deny the humanity of the mother. We’ve defined the line: viability. There’s nothing wishy washy, or emotive about it. Is the baby less human than the mother? Yes, by every metric that separates us from common mammals, and even our closest relatives. “the brainstem, which controls vital functions like heart rate and breathing, isn’t mostly complete until the end of the second trimester, and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 07:54 PM
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And that’s why they’re not “moral”. They are just making an “assumption” the foetus is human while ignoring- and mostly vilifying- the verifiable humanity of the pregnant person. No one is forcing a fertile conservative to have an abortion. Be as pro-breeding as you like in your own home. Forced birthers have nothing but a self-created “morality” to back up their authoritarian ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:47 PM
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This. It’s not about “life”- they couldn’t give a fuck what happens to it after the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:40 PM
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As a trait, it’s not attractive. It doesn’t stop people being conned, but women aren’t attracted to it as a personality trait. It doesn’t in itself measure favourably. In an abusive relationship it comes out only after the “love bombing” stage, so there’s no indication he isn’t anything except “the most amazing boyfriend ever”, until it’s too late. Then he finds something to accuse her of, where she’s betrayed him, made him feel terrible, it’s “not his fault” and because he was so amazing, she b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:17 PM
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“Forces to pay part regardless of relationship status”… dude, you don’t get to just wash your hands of your kids because you no longer get “the wife” part of the family. They’re still your kids and they still cost money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:03 PM
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Wrong. If you’d read anything about it you’d find the only DT trait that measured favourably was “narcissism”, because on first meeting it comes off as confident, life of the party, charismatic. Men also are duped by dark triad men the same way and for the same reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 02:58 PM
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90% of this sub is “I prove this with a fictional storyline I made where I narrate a woman’s POV to prove women think this way!”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 02:52 PM
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Can you show me anything evidence based that isn’t just opinion and personal gripes?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 05:42 PM
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Men prefer to date down. It’s not a sacrifice they’re willing to take on, it’s an actual choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 05:14 PM
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They start earning less when they raise children. I don’t have an axe to grind, but I find it funny that men pretend that child rearing doesn’t exist, or is easy, or that there was wage parity 50-100 years ago, or that men would choose to be the secondary provider, or that women’s career and earning prospects aren’t hindered by becoming a mother. And, no, we dont have laws & practices that “favour” women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 05:01 PM
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The majority of men want a woman who makes less than they do. Umpteen studies showing this to be more of an issue than the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:54 PM
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Yawn. Your male doctor is thoroughly consistent with male hypogamy, which seems to be at least, and frequently more of an issue than women’s hypergamy. “Women have always wanted to marry a provider & protector” conveniently pretends that women had any alternative when not being allowed to work, get further education, stop having a dozen babies, own property.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:13 PM
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Why are you putting into quotation something I never said? I said aren’t attracted to, not intimidated by.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:37 PM
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Ah. Now he’s attractive- another detail you missed out. Before, he was brown eyed, lanky & pale with long hair. Oh - and leather jacket, the uniform of the “bad boy”. Women didn’t create the Chad , this was a male homoerotic fantasy of their ideal male. Just because dudes keep talking about it being some rich, muscular gym bro isn’t our fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:24 PM
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You blatantly have zero knowledge of how abusive relationships work, then. You can’t make a woman feel good and treat her badly at the same time. I honestly have no idea what you’re talking about, but that’s because you don’t actually understand the dynamics of an abusive relationship in the first place. So what are men who are in abusive relationships? There’s even MORE logic, since they’re stronger and could easily just walk out the door without having to fear for their safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:51 PM
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https://www.stylist.co.uk/life/why-men-dont-send-message-first-on-tinder-science-dating-apps-make-move-women/65307
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:41 PM
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Of course emotions are a huge part of attraction, far more than… logic. I’m not sure what your point is. Can you lie and pretend to be someone with an attractive personality in order to have sex with them? Of course. Same as you can say that guys are easily scammed if you play up to their ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:34 PM
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He’s completely different to the “masculine man” you described in your post. So now in order to justify “women’s tastes aren’t that unique”, you’re redefining Chad to be practically any variation of a man physically. Which is… different tastes women have in what they find attractive. Women: I’m not attracted to lanky, thin guys “YAH, that’s cos you all go for Chads” Women: I’m attracted to lanky thin guys “YAH, that’s cos they’re Chads and you only go for Chads”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:07 PM
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There’s a lot of interesting reads outside of anonymous Reddit opinions, especially TRP. Guys here tend to not like reading much, especially if it turns out “there’s not much difference between how men & women are attracted”.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:47 PM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/02/12/in-experiments-researchers-figured-out-what-men-and-women-really-want-in-a-mate/ To back up my opinions with studies as opposed to just stating them as facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:17 PM
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We don’t think it’s unique. It’s just not that different from men, and mostly obvious. Besides, everything you’ve listed as “masculine personality” is just as easily feminine personality traits. I mean, duh. Guys want a physically attractive, feminine woman. However, men notably aren’t attracted to women who are smarter and more ambitious than they are. So it makes sense that women go for a higher ranking than them, since they probably get little interest from dumber & less ambitious who think t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:16 PM
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I’ve never heard of or met a man who fetishises tall women. So I guess they don’t exist either
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:11 PM
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Actually, I found a comment from a woman saying she didn’t like to rate men highly as OKCupid would then alert the guy. Finding him attractive didn’t mean she wanted a relationship. Most studies just don’t show this graph, or anything close to it. It’s just convenient for men to use as it’s simple and pretty and satisfying for he, to believe. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/02/12/in-experiments-researchers-figured-out-what-men-and-women-really-want-in-a-mate/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:08 PM
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Market rent is usually less than your mortgage payments? Are you saying as a landlord you’re always operating at a loss? Anyhow, this is getting repetitive, and pointless as I’ve no idea where you live or what your place is, your salary, her salary etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:00 PM
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Fuck knows. Okay Cupid have deleted the study, so all that’s left to go on is articles about it. There’s some interesting ones in Medium, but I can no longer access it as I’ve read too many articles now. There’s this one: https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/12/03/guest-post-in-the-land-of-the-hideous-the-somewhat-less-than-loathsome-man-is-king/ One interesting note is in the comment section where a woman says she doesn’t want to rate a man highly because OC will then notify the guy, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:57 PM
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The only positive dark triad trait is narcissism, because it can seem the same as confident & extroverted. It must be noted that men are equally attracted to this in other men as far as finding them admirable (and probably sexually if they’re gay). Men not reading studies and just constantly repeating it feeds into the lie that women enjoy being manipulated and yet men are somehow immune to it themselves. Patently untrue. I’ve no idea what you mean about arrogance and chest thumping being attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:41 PM
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Regarding your edit: how do you control things like food? No, I would be absolutely against this as it would cause plenty of arguments, either her being tight or you overspending. Also, your market rent for your place is possibly different than what she’d need as a single woman. You talk like “he’s sharing the space with her” as if it’s magnanimous, whereas in this situation the bulk of the positives go to you - you get discounts on everything while building equity. Who cares what the market rat…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:30 AM
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But you’re not a landlord, you’re a boyfriend. By insisting on “market rent” for her, you’re effectively getting her to pay more to live there than you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:17 AM
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You were asking so something isn’t transactional. My point, which was unclear, is that for repairs etc, it’s probably worthwhile charging something as “rent”, so you have a slush fund - not that it be considered as she foots 1/2 the bill, because of the reasons you mentioned. Should it be 1/2 your mortgage just because you’ve let her move in? That’s debatable. Again, so much of this depends on circumstances of the individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:46 AM
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Woman here: this is your problem. Not directed at you, but personally I get fed up when I hear this from men “I don’t want to make them uncomfortable”. We’re adults, not children. Life is uncomfortable. My wet shoes, the bra strap that keeps falling down, the packed subway, the wolf whistles from builders, these are all uncomfortable, and yet, astonishingly, women aren’t vibrating puddles of anxiety because of it. You can be full of empathy and hit on women. You seem to have a bizarre notion tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:21 AM
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This is only a part of the data. Despite this, it turns out women message men closer to their own level of attractiveness, whereas men are more likely to message women who are very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 09:57 AM
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Woman here (if it matters), and yes, perfectly acceptable. At the very least she should be paying 50% of the bills. I wouldn’t be comfortable paying any less. This is really up to the couple and depends on their individual income, how the relationship is going to work in the future etc. and also, if he has a mortgage or owns it outright. Outright, rent becomes more of a “fee” that I don’t think really has a place in a relationship. HOWEVER… things still break, need upgrades etc. Is it fair if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 09:54 AM
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Not what I said at all, and he’s deleted the post so you can’t see what I was referring to. Wanting to be “adored” while not treating her the same way, just expecting it and wishing for it just because she’s a woman and is “supposed to”, IS manbaby.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 09:38 AM
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A 2 way street doesn’t mean obeying your partner’s demands just because they’re male. They only meet once in awhile, so why should she do what he wants with the rest of her downtime just because he’s into fitness? “I want to be adored by her” is just childish. There’s nothing “adorable” about how he speaks of her, it’s just manbaby insecurities. Sounds like they should just breakup anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:35 AM
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Brilliant
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:23 AM
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… on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 01:20 PM
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Weird how when I look at your own comments I see nothing but a man constantly undervaluing women, talking about them as simple fucks, and being totally misogynistic. Which is typical in this sub, but then you come on here and whine about “vitriol” and men not being appreciated enough? Dude, that’s embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 01:09 PM
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Facts vs feelings, hun.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 01:02 PM
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You realise that your social media is an algorithm tailored to you, and not necessarily indicative of a majority viewpoint, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 01:00 PM
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The only reason a guy would fuck a woman he wasn’t attracted to is entirely selfish. I’ve never understood why guys think this is a “positive”. Being indiscriminate is just seedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 12:05 PM
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That’s from an ancient study with a small sample size that compared to heteronormative relationships from what I remember. The term was coined in the 80s, and for straight people, the norm to focus on is quantity, not quality. “Our culture is “hetero-normative.” Our touchstone is what heterosexuals do, and many believe that if folks who are not heterosexual do things differently, their way must be deficient. That’s not the case. There are as many fulfilling ways to make love as there are lovers.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:11 AM
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I defend it because I don’t believe in your biological essentialism. If I did, I’d also believe men to be a lot worse than I do. You want to describe yourselves as unevolved mammals, then you don’t get to just pick the bits that suit you. The “visceral” is totally subjective: be jealous and resentful, have an unhealthy relationship with your sexuality and project your resentments onto the opposite sex - it all “feels” visceral, but is just you pretending your weak insecurities are some form of “…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 10:57 AM
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I’m not sure why men being sulky & jealous over their supposed lack of opportunities should have anything to do with their views on women, unless they’re toddlers. And shagging a famous fitness guy isn’t “promiscuous”, imo. It’s not a competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 10:52 AM
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It does for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:45 PM
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It’s not. Mens orgasms are pretty straightforward. 5 minutes of being pummelled doesn’t do it for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:35 PM
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There is no “women’s behaviour”. That’s the problem with TRP: they see an easy to digest graph of 80/20, and don’t read the rest of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:32 PM
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Women are less interested in bad sex, is the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:45 PM
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I’m not complaining about men being seen as studs. I’m complaining about women being seen as repulsive for the same actions. Frankly, it should be so boring that it shouldn’t be commented on for either gender. Not sure what you’re trying to say with your next point: casual sex isn’t a new technique, it’s pretty bog standard. It’s actually super-easy for men to get their jacksies, and also requires zero skill: pay someone to let you have your 5 minutes of hammering. Yes, it’s easy to have sex as …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:43 PM
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Sure. But that’s now what sickened OP. Unless, of course, he’s not particularly good at being clear with his prose.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:56 PM
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No one deserves “praise” for casual sex. But just because in your head something is easy, doesn’t mean it’s sickening.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:53 PM
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Just because men want women to behave one way while they behave another doesn’t make it sickening.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:11 PM
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As normal as the idea these women all confessed their sex life to OP, which is highly unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:42 PM
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And why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:40 PM
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Then I don’t understand why he thinks it’s “sickening”, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:13 PM
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Blame yourselves for obsessing about women’s body count and/or wanting a virgin. Assuming this is even true (what are the chances “dozens” of women decided to confide in OP?), why would women bother hooking up with a “normal” guy? “Normal” guy won’t appreciate it, he’ll just run around talking about what a stud he was for luring her into bed, or what a whore she is, or denigrate her decision as some animalistic tendency.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:12 PM
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What’s sickening about women having casual sex with a famous fitness guy? If a female model had walked into the gym, she could’ve done the same thing with the guys there. The difference being she’d be slut-shamed for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:58 PM
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Cool. I interpreted your sentence as your requirements had been met multiple times already.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:20 PM
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So you’re preying on virgins pretending you’ll marry them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:04 PM
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How do you translate eye colour into metric?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:01 PM
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Because you yourself stated “dark triad men are irresistible to women” when that’s not the case. It’s just an easy, simple one-liner used, without anyone bothering to research it. Debunked multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:37 PM
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You’re asking a RP man to read. I’d guarantee he couldn’t even list the triad without looking it up first.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:35 AM
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It’s not evolutionary, really. Imo, biggest problem is the orgasm gap, and the fact that men who also want casual sex at the same time denigrate women who feel the same. Lack of respect and the contempt for women that oozes out of Rp men’s mouths is a massive turnoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:29 PM
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Well… this is all unoriginal and obvious. The same could be said for women pursuing casual relationships, aside from elevated risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 10:56 AM
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It sounds like he’s a shit husband, though. It’s entirely selfish and completely unfair on the woman who ends up raising his kids for him. It’s telling that at no point did she factor into your imagined scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:15 PM
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I would see that as deeply dishonest. If you’re “crazy” over someone who you (for some reason) see as unfit for motherhood, I’d say the chances are high you’re equally unfit for the responsibilities of fatherhood. Instead you’re looking for a woman to take most of those responsibilities off your shoulders, while you get the benefits of the wife and kids you feel entitled to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:26 PM
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Are you really young? Back then it was a question that was interesting. As you grow older, you grow it f this. Unless you’re red pilled, obvs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:37 PM
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What point? And immaturity is a fact, not obfuscation. Safe in no way means “settled for”. I’m sorry that some men are so insecure about their sexual adequacy that they obsess about prior relationships. Again, like I said, it’s immaturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:57 PM
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I think the idea of “settling” is just immaturity not understanding what a long lasting relationship is. I don’t know any men who think they “settled”. It doesn’t even make sense to say men do it more if you also want to whine about how women divorce more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 12:14 PM
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I’m glad you asked this, if only because it makes the dumb idea that women “settle” so obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 12:06 PM
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I meant inequality between the sexes, not income brackets.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 07:55 AM
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Inequality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:47 PM
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Then why is her age relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 08:32 PM
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Lols… you still think women are desperate to be mothers. It’s not an oxymoron, sweet child.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 08:04 PM
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Where’d you get that from?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 07:48 PM
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Sounds like MGTOW. She didn’t say any of what you said, btw. She said nothing about teaching him, and said she’s met a lot of amazing guys. She’s just not into having a relationship. Who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 07:47 PM
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Stop exaggerating. Feeling bad is natural. Becoming a victim that resents every me,her of the opposite sex isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:31 PM
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Friendly? I love talking to people, if it’s interesting and they’re fun or have interesting shit to say. I’m not sure about “flirty”. If they come straight up flirting, they have no interest in a friendship anyhow. This applies to most men, it’s not all about looks. I don’t go out to get pulled.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 04:51 PM
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So true. I think they admire pimps though. Probably one of their wanks, imagining being one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 08:51 AM
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Like I said, I didn’t watch much. I’m grown, so this content doesn’t interest me. As a feminist, I don’t agree with SAH in general, for either sex, depending on the context. It leaves the other person financially dependent and vulnerable. The bit I saw, it didn’t seem their men had a problem with the relationship? So I don’t know why there’s criticism. There are men who just want a “Pretty Woman” arrangement (like the movie) where she’s just buying nice things and keeping herself looking good an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:20 PM
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You jut stated the whole point of this dodo’s yt channel: to get views. Much like the women you’re complaining about do. I could only listen to 5 minutes of his sped up, nasally voice (I lose all respect for cowards who don’t show their face onscreen- is he one of those?) but he was just giving the usual RP rants about men provide so women should do house chores
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:49 PM
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My point was the reason you think kink is an outlier is because your worldview has been tainted by millennia of civilisation making “kink” into a sin. It’s not so much I have disdain for it, it’s that it can’t really prove much. I also question the “strongly”. Having just read an interview with him (Frans) and a review of the book, it sounds like it has the same issues I have with this as a science that defines who we are. If you go: “these gorillas are just like us here”, then “these chimpanzee…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:12 PM
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No, I agree with this entirely. It’s the outpouring of male insecurity as they lose control of a valuable asset.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:50 PM
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Actually, evolutionary psych is often looked at as junk science, because so little can be truly proved. It mostly acts as confirmation bias. And kink culture is not an outlier, especially if you believe in “biological programming”. You only have to look at the millennia of hard work Christianity and other abrahamic religions have done and continue to do to make sex into something that “sends you to hell”.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:47 PM
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I don’t think anti pick-me is toxic, tbh. You’ve used a fairly prosaic example. I’ve never heard of simply cooking your boyfriend dinner being called pickme, but I wouldn’t say this is what grown women believe. Sounds like teenagers. Whatever- what you see on your algorithm is completely different to what I see, so you shouldn’t believe it’s some sort of cultural trend just because a couple of girls have loads of followers. I also think you bring up points without reference to the culture and ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:43 PM
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True. But because they’re also the ones searching it out, it’s the reason female doms can charge such high fees. And gay doms. I don’t know any hetero male doms who cater to the high powered women you say are gagging for it. Although I’m sure there’s a market.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:14 PM
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I’m absolutely sure that’s what you would believe. Anyone who clings to rigid gender roles wouldn’t entertain it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:12 PM
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Again, I’d say that’s just because we’re socialised this way, and it’s the bog standard default of your average, heteronormative, vanilla sex life. I think the labels cause issues, because people outside of kink culture don’t really get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:09 PM
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I disagree. I think men enjoy it just as much, but they don’t like the idea & prefer the safety of controlling things rather than surrendering.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:50 PM
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You’re just mad that some porn isn’t free. That’s literally the entire whinge men have when they rage about OF. They hate that women are making money off their wanks, while also happily trawling any $0 porn without a thought or care as to whether it’s consensual, or the women were trafficked, or that the website their views are monetising is showing pedo porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:47 PM
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The growth amongst women is a reaction to male RP becoming popularised by algorithms.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:40 PM
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But most gimps that pay female dominatrix are high powered, alpha, strong, rich men. They’re leaders. If anything, it sounds like they’re exactly the same. I know a couple of dominatrix & also trans women who did it to pay for their surgeries. Their clientele were very wealthy men high up in the pecking order.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:35 PM
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Genuine question, as I don’t know these TikTok women, but from what I gather from Google, they’re just the female version of red pill. I mean… you guys go on about women all being shallow gold diggers, only attracted to chads, y’all are so alpha having loads of hookups, and there’s a woman who agrees with you and decides to engage in the system you’re convinced women operate in, and now you’re angry? I don’t get it. She sounds like female dating strategy, which just sounds like the woman’s versi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:31 PM
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I hope you’re not really blackpill, because you’re the most interesting convo I’ve had on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:26 PM
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So close to sounding like a real man, and yet… you just sound like a bog standard, manipulative dude with no empathy. I particularly enjoyed how you describe the whole game you’re playing with this woman by demanding and then “rewarding”, and then finish off by saying real men shouldn’t play games “like women”. 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:06 PM
1

But now we’re no longer talking about evolution but more modern society: ie, a patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:23 PM
21

I was young before social media. I’m sure if I could read all the shit that boys spill on reddit back in the day, I’d never have dated at all. They think because it’s anonymous somehow that means women aren’t reading it. It’s such a massive turnoff listening to them constantly whine and pull their puds to porn, while explaining how superior they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:20 PM
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It’s interesting also because it shows how deeply we hold these assumptions that even experts in the field never questioned it. It didn’t occur to anyone - man or woman - to test the bones for sex, so deep is our faith that women just picked berries and raised kids. My issue isn’t the division of labour, my issue is how RP believes that hunting & protecting were exclusively male attributes. And -more importantly- because they idolise strength and violence in men, they think these were somehow “s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:56 PM
1

I mean - you just said it. He earns respect from other men. It’s the RP homoeroticism that’s so evident when you guys talk about alphas. I’ve managed bars and clubs for years. The ones who earn respect are those who can de-escalate a situation and negotiate peace. I’m not sure how you define “beta”, since it often seems to be “capable of a healthy relationship between equals”, but I’d much MUCH prefer a man who walks away then some oik who gets triggered constantly. I’m sorry you’re determined t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:19 PM
1

Who said that? I simply think in terms of partnership it makes more sense. You guys think it’s all about what man was the most violent and big and he got all the women wanting to shag him. Y’all talk about alphas like they’re something amazing, when really all it seems to be is glorifying men who manipulate women into having sex and that’s it. If it was legal, alphas would just be rapists. A functioning society doesn’t need violent men ranging about and starting fights with other men. What you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:58 PM
2

So now we’re imagining things. And yet you’re incapable of imagining that with only 1 million people spread across the whole planet, the chances of a bunch of men “enslaving” women the next day is pretty fucking unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:50 PM
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I’m sorry logic is hard for you. Being heavily pregnant doesn’t remotely mean she needs “protection” from this fantasy world of great heroism you imagine. Animals aren’t stupid. We lived in groups. We had sharp pointy things. Likely there was plenty of other women about if a sabre toothed tiger tried something on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:47 PM
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Protection from what? You? You guys watch too many movies - no offence. Even 10,000 BC, 2000 years AFTER we became agricultural, the global population was 1 million people. That’s like 2/3rds of San Diego, or Dallas.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:10 PM
1

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/prehistoric-female-hunter-discovery-upends-gender-role-assumptions
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:59 PM
1

Why would height be “the peak”? We used tools. We ran, scavenged, built shit. We also mostly sat around. And it turns out it was just sexism, this assumption that hunters were exclusively males “protecting womenfolk”. Hunters were also women. The theory about male build is it’s about them fighting each other for resources/mates, not “protective” at all and not something that made them particularly exciting genetics wise. I’m not sure, but isn’t it mostly from Neanderthals? It’s a northern hemisp…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:20 PM
1

It also doesn’t mean just because you’re a young woman you’re not taking your career and future seriously. This sub is absolutely stacked with young men who seem to be preoccupied by nothing else but chasing pussy. It’s quite possible to have a good time and be financially responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:02 PM
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That lame ass abstract is about as poor a study as op’s experiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:41 PM
8

Weird then how women are outpacing men when it comes to getting degrees and buying their own homes….
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:36 PM
5

So you’ve just basically said it’s both young guys and girls who grow up. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 12:42 PM
7

I can’t understand what you wrote, but I’m not attacking anyone. If anything, I’m complimenting males by giving them attention even if I won’t f*ck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:29 PM
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So weird how as a woman I can talk to guys without thinking they’re a waste of time, but males seem incapable. No wonder so many are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:03 PM
1

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:50 PM
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(2) No, dude. Again, this is RP misogyny thinking women are a hive mind & are dependent on compliments from males for their self-worth. Like OP said, we get enough unwanted attention already. Just being attractive doesn’t make you interesting. (3) that’s cool, but don’t whine about women being picky then like so many males do. If all you are is a fuck, then this advice is workable, but don’t complain when you get what you’re giving.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:47 PM
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Not op, but I would say this could work assuming you also have piercings, because then it’s more a shared interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:34 PM
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A woman isn’t required in order to mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:28 AM
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I didn’t say you imagine it. I said it’s a shallow, immature binary way of looking at relationships. And you just proved my point by calling being a partner in a healthy relationship a “beta bux”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:31 AM
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Ah, you’ve changed the scenario. Now you’re already dating and having sex and she stops, for whatever reason. I’ve never found monogamous men to be rare, tbh. Monogamy in a committed relationship is sort of a low bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 01:41 AM
1

I was just curious why you think your monogamy is “special”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 01:26 AM
0

Beta/Chad is also a male creation. It’s once again a male black/white way of seeing things that is entirely about insecurity & shallowness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 01:20 AM
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I’d totally respect him for it. There’s absolutely tonnes one can do in terms of foreplay for ages. Something the dick-centric 5 minute wonders obsessed with a woman’s virginity aren’t any good at.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 01:16 AM
0

Are you a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 01:14 AM
0

Looked like she didn’t like her because she abused her friend and as if the girlfriend was more jealous of her. Whatever- it’s a pop song. And there’s loads of songs sung by men about this exact scenario and no one is screaming “incel” at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 05:42 PM
5

Eh? I didn’t see Swift berating the guy for only dating bad girls or sulking about being friendzoned . Maybe that’s why
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 04:50 PM
2

I’ve never heard of doing otherwise. Unless there’s a massive difference in incomes, 50/50 is the norm. What made you think it wasn’t? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 12:57 PM
3

So you’re saving your virginity for marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 09:53 AM
2

And wtf is 3rd law? You’re aware idolatry is unhealthy and indicates some problem with forming a healthy relationship? No one asked you to “idolise” women, and being desperate for sex or thinking a woman will sort out your mental issues isn’t idolatry- again, this is wanting a mommy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 08:36 AM
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Why do you boys always equate “nice” with subservient? I was around, and I’ve no use what you’re talking about. Guys have always been cool, in general. And most still are. It’s just the angry vocal minority we have to look out for. Most guys grow out of it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 08:33 AM
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Are these the gentlemen who then raped their slaves & servants? Every point you’ve made is nothing to do with idolising & 100% due to infantilising women and treating them as the “weaker” sex. What truths? Because male judges give harsher prison sentences to men, therefore women need to be treated badly? Lol- what am I supposed to learn from logic that understands nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 07:12 AM
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But everyone will want to date up. For men “up” isn’t richer - it’s usually the opposite and younger. I don’t get why this is seen as some sort of revelation requiring a “pill”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 01:18 AM
2

The reason I fight it is because this weird idealism you speak of that BP men have for women is bullshit. Idolising women is where you still want a mommy. We’re just human beings. So it’s the constant litany of “women are superficial” “women are shallow”, “women only fuck chads” that makes RP misogynistic. You can dress it up all you like, but the absolute zero respect and constant degrading language, the fairly frequent hatred is what makes RP just sound like bitter, whiny boys with wet diapers…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 01:16 AM
3

So we should just call you dogs? Because that’s what you are. Just desperately trying to hump a woman’s leg.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 12:25 AM
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So then why all this whining here about how “tough” things are for men having to put “so much” effort into… fuck knows. Swiping? Why does women enjoying sex make you so ragey you feel you have to treat her like a hoe? It’s really pathetic listening to you all moaning how you can’t get any, and as soon as you do, you have another fit about how women are hoes? And you think women are acting superior? I mean… listen to yourselves 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 12:23 AM
4

This in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 05:02 PM
4

It absolutely is, and you can’t pretend that constantly referring to women as females and the terminology that’s used here is anything less than misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 05:02 PM
0

What experience is that, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 03:27 PM
10

It’s just an orgasm, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 03:22 PM
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It is taken into consideration. But at the same time these red faced guys are out there wanting to get their rocks off, they get pissy that they’re only attractive to a certain type of woman. A woman who isn’t interested, except perhaps for a free meal or a quick shag. So they shouldn’t object so much to being used and possibly manipulated. It’s just a transaction. Add in the extra risks for women and the orgasm gap, and you see why women who will accept their proposal- such as it is- will likel…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 03:18 PM
5

So… the assumption that women are inferior and base, and how to manipulate that. Yeah, that’s pretty much trp minus the biceps.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 02:44 PM
1

It’s actually extremely common. Most girls deal with this anywhere from 10-12 onwards. It’s quite funny how you make up figures in your head and just assume that they’re facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 11:57 AM
1

Love it? Meh. Would I be more welcoming to someone fun, interesting and enthusiastic? Naturally. Does it mean I’ll sleep with them or even give them my number? Doubtful. I’ve never done it unless there was a common interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 11:47 AM
0

It’s nothing like a kiss. It’s just another stranger eyeing you up for fuckability. And having someone you find mutually attractive pay attention to you is completely normal, not gender specific. This is completely different to “attention is fuel for women & they’d die without it every day”.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 01:46 AM
1

Bless. Sure you are, big man. A whole 3 minutes too! 👏👏👏
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 01:38 AM
2

Lol- are you kidding me?? Female doms are some of the biggest earners out there 😊 What planet are you living on that you don’t know men love to get slapped around and abused by women? Jesus. Are you serious?? Lemme guess- you got told that on YouTube so you just swallowed it like a baby. Like how you could just Google “top OF earners” and see that plenty of them are men. If only you knew how to use Google. Show me proof that women’s hate is stronger than anything out of the incel community. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 01:36 AM
1

Sure you did. ☺️
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 01:27 AM
3

Oh, I see 😂 I’ll leave you all to it then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 10:14 PM
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Then you obviously know absolutely nothing about abusive relationships. And a lot of men who are “moral” can be seriously abusive. Morality isn’t an indicator of anything except they have a rigid code of their own that they follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 10:13 PM
1

It’s not a strawman. Do you even know what that means? Same with your use of “existential crisis”- you’re one of those who uses big words to show off, but your lack of understanding means your arguments lack any clarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 10:10 PM
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What’s a men space? This sub? It isn’t a men’s space.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:49 PM
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So you don’t know how abusive relationships develop, do you? They start off with love bombing, the complete opposite of feigning indifference. When a man is deliberately acting one way then the other, it doesn’t make the other person more attracted, it makes them anxious and they blame themselves. So they strive to get back the original, kind loving partner by performing better. It’s weird how in the red pill world, when a woman is abusive, no one says it’s because men enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:35 PM
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After reading what? A comedian joke? Goodness you’re really easy to manipulate, aren’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:22 PM
1

That’s exactly what I mean. Male fragility can’t handle it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:20 PM
1

Ok. So at least you’ve admitted that all this “effort” you put in at “unimaginable” cost to you, is really just spamming in the hopes you get your dick wet. So… basically you’re whining that it’s just so unfair that women don’t want to be cut-price hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:19 PM
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Except men and women both cheat at more or less the same rates, so the whole twinky idea that women would do this is just that: angry boys making up reasons to hate women because the only women they know are their mums or from free porn sites.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:12 PM
1

Eh? I said men are attracted to being perceived as powerful. They get turned off by successful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:02 PM
1

There’s literally zero evidence of this being a woman thing, except in some male’s head where he thinks Cavell is dming strange women for hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:01 PM
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But now you’re changing the scenario, which is where a hot new girl is giving more attention, giving you butterflies. Sounds like it’s a likely lay. It’s really hard to understand what you’re trying to prove as you seem to interchange “sex” with “relationship” randomly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:55 PM
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I’m not unaware at all. But if you think writing “yo” “u sexy” or sending a dick pick is you putting effort into finding someone, then that’s probably one of your issues when it comes to being found attractive. Not to mention it’s actually men who consistently message women more attractive than they are rather than the other way round. I think most of men’s problems is they don’t really like women, so they’re stuck with whatever superficial shit they have as their “goods” to show. If they have l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:51 PM
4

Why would a woman trade a solid relationship for dating? And if dating was so fantastically amazing for women, how come so many are staying single?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:36 PM
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I don’t think they’d want to. Having a partner that’s superior to them in every way emasculates the male.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:33 PM
1

No, they’re attracted to being perceived as powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:31 PM
2

Lol- that’s completely different. My understanding (although I don’t know what’s written here) is it’s usually when a relationship is going to shit anyhow. My experience with it is from years ago when I dated a guy despite him chewing with his mouth open. While things were good, I could ignore it. But after it got rocky it was the ONLY thing I noticed and became unbearable. That’s a different issue and I never said it was 100% accurate. It’s actually not hard for it to be accurate since there’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:29 PM
4

It has everything to do with it, as well as it being a well-honed response to sexual harassment that most women started experiencing before they hit puberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 07:52 PM
2

I literally explained what happened when I was young. I did my best to avoid it. You’ve now changed it from “women will ah g themselves if they don’t get compliments” to a situation where every woman is getting interest except her. Then I presume she’d have the same self doubt and anxiety that one finds in the incel community- although probably without the sheer hatred, rape fantasies and mass murders.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 07:48 PM
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Where have you seen this? One reason could be that men don’t actually like the idea of a woman with more power than them (this has plenty of stats to back it up). So her fame and wealth would possibly be emasculating. They’d quite possibly be as keen or more so if it was just some hot, sexy random girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 07:44 PM
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That’s not women’s problem. This is a bizarre analogy as the issue is these “job offers” are actually just for sex in a back alley. So - rightly, women aren’t interested. The only reason men see this as a luxury is because that’s what they want themselves. Apparently one of the things that came out of the ok Cupid data was women’s messages averaged 112 characters, men’s 6. So maybe do some work on your cv?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 07:41 PM
2

Wrong. I’m in my 50s and started disappearing from the male gaze a decade ago. I absolutely fucking love every minute of not having to deal with that crap. I spent most of my youth going out only in gay spaces to avoid it as much as I could. I did wonder if I’d miss it when I got older, since it was such a constant in my life, but turns out it’s fucking awesome not having men leer, tell you to smile, comment on your tits or dress, whistle at you, hound you at bars, force you to talk to them & an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 07:14 PM
2

And you think it would be different for a man if a sexy hot, famous woman did the same? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:56 PM
3

This is hilarious. How are women “consumed” with hypergamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:54 PM
3

This attitude is actually more of a mental health issue than good advice. If this is how you approach relationships, then it’s obvious you would only attract transactional partners who will quickly lose interest in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:48 PM
1

Weird, as they also have extremely high divorce rates. And the war hasn’t killed anything like 100s of 1000s.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:43 PM
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We’re not, though. We’re not remotely living exactly like men do with our new freedoms. We’re living like women freely. You’ve got some weird insistence that “fearing men” is a biological imperative. All you have to do is walk outside & you can see women walking everywhere completely unconcerned about the men out there. Your post is quite ridiculous. We’re not fighting to solve our fears 😂 we’re mostly fighting for equality. Part of us gaining that was recognition that - shock horror - it meant …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:38 PM
0

If this were true, why do women hate being cold approached, Wolf whistled or stared at? Which single, angry podcaster taught you this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:21 PM
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And if she was a he, why would he turn it down either? Will you eventually leave her for someone better? How many men end up chasing young skirt once their wife starts boring them? Most people in a loving relationship say no to these possibilities and try and work thru their issues. Sometimes successfully, sometimes not. Anyone can enjoy attention without questioning their relationship as well or even thinking about questioning it for a second. They’re not mutually exclusive. Butterflies aren’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:09 PM
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It’s only you calling it an irrational thought. I’ve given you multiple reasons as to why it isn’t, but men think it’s all about looks & therefore women are shallow. It’s because a hookup has such a low rate of return it’s barely worthwhile in the best of circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:37 PM
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No. Along with safety, pregnancy, STD & reputation concerns, there’s the very real fact that guys who are into just casual sex are really shitty in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:04 PM
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No, we need to know you won’t become some jealous, possessive wanker. If I want a one night stand then being obnoxious won’t bother me as I won’t be seeing you again anyhow. A man who’s indifferent will also be better at understanding consent since the stakes are low anyhow.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:49 PM
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The “women are only attracted to the top 20%” is a myth. A friendship is more valuable to me than banging one just because he’s cute. I find most of my male friends attractive, some are literally models. Doesn’t mean I’ll have sex with them, though, or want a relationship with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 02:29 PM
0

No - it’s the transactional relationship expected by old fashioned ideas about each gender’s role in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 08:10 PM
5

But she’s not talking about doors, this is your thing. They state “I would expect him to pay, open doors etc”. And she doesn’t believe it - she literally says her & her husband don’t believe in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 07:45 PM
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It’s not, but why bother posting anything if all you want to hear is the same, tired trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 07:35 PM
1

I don’t know a single progressive woman who expects or wants a naff valentines gift. It’s just marketing and has nothing to do with women, tbh. It’s easier and probably more profitable to market gifts to women vs the other way round. The idea of men doing the showering with gifts is actually deeply old fashioned and patriarchal. Women are subjected to the same media messages as men so the expectation, or hope can be conditioned into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 07:32 PM
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You missed the “etc”, as in all the rest of what op said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 07:24 PM
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The correct term would be sexism, not misogyny, although some dictionaries- and now general discussion- have conflated the 2. What the woman is saying isn’t misandry. How could it b, when these behaviours are the standard “masculine traits & expectations” of a patriarchal society? They’re sexist (or misogynistic, depending on your definition). If both those statements started with “women are only good for/ men are only good for” then you’re venturing into misogyny/misandry. Although, you could p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 07:18 PM
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Actually, any legitimate stats you’ll find that analyse the data show that it’s men who are more likely to be pursuing the top 20%. It’s why young women get most of the attention: old guys are still messaging girls 30 years younger than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:31 PM
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This is really pathetic. Your main whinge seems to be some OF women earn a living from it. Why aren’t you pissed off at pornhub, or the now billionaire OWNER of OF that created the “need” in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:25 PM
2

How?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:51 PM
2

Bullshit. A woman who “hooked up” in the past would be no more or less likely to think they were raped than they are now. You’ve basically victim blamed all rape survivors who drank by assuming it’s “common” that they wanted sex then regretted it. Do you have any idea of the process involved in going to the police over this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:26 PM
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I find the results unsurprising and they don’t amount to anything much. However the lack of detail about how the study was set up, and it’s minuscule sample size where I don’t even know the background of these families means I take little interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 01:41 PM
1

Read what I wrote again.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:48 AM
2

How are you even joining these statements together? Look at all the insecure boys on here ready to brand women as whores if they don’t follow a narrowly prescribed path men believe is appropriate. Men get jealous, insecure and ragey at the idea that women can enjoy sex, if it’s not about him. This sub - and society - is constantly criticising and mocking women no matter what they do. Why would women be honest with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:46 PM
0

If you google it there’s a lot of issues with abstracts not being accurate or properly explaining the results that were found.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:37 PM
12

Men are actually the ones who have a harder time when their wife earns more than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:28 PM
4

It’s not about sacrificing our “I’m wonderful” magic. We’re not allowed to be openly sexual beings without consequences. You just have to read all the hateful comments about women on here to know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:26 PM
0

Well, it’s not a study, all I can see is an abstract which are famously inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:19 PM
0

Do you have the link? Because all I see is the abstract that doesn’t mention age at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:16 PM
14

It’s perfectly possible to have a stable family where each individual contributes and has financial independence. “How many people have you slept with?” stopped being a question I asked or was asked of me way back in my very early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:15 PM
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Why would not being attracted to something cause empathy? This apparently was some study. What’s there to manipulate?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:10 PM
2

Because it shows a huge lack of knowledge about how women get turned on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:08 PM
2

Are they actually lying, or is it social conditioning? A lot of women are into fantasy “rape sex”, but that doesn’t translate to “they really want to be raped”. And fuckbois don’t act like fuckbois. They act like the good guy. And quite often, the “good guy” isn’t good at all, and the “bad boys” I’ve dated have all been in touch with their emotions, very romantic & fiercely intelligent despite their leather and tattoos.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:06 PM
3

For someone who thinks he’s a fisherman, you don’t know much about fish, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 07:42 PM
1

It’s not as imbalanced as how men message predominately more attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 07:38 PM
-4

Were these real life examples they met? Ambition and intelligence are pretty cold & factual and hard to find an affinity for when just presented as a statistic. Presumably there was a photo of both men. I’d assume anyone would go for what looked like a more possible long term mate, as opposite to reading “he’s ambitious and intelligent”.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 07:36 PM
10

Of course you would.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 07:26 PM
1

Why would they lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 07:21 PM
-2

What kind of society is this where a parent is helping to choose a partner? How old are these kids? 150 18 year old girls looking at a couple of photos in an imaginary situation doesn’t prove anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 07:01 PM
18

Yeah- no one’s talking about wanting to be a trad wife living on the top floor of a tenement building with no lift, with 4 kids in a 2 bed apartment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:39 PM
30

I think it’s buying into the white, middle class fantasy of the perfect 1950s family you saw on a black & white TV. It gets shown a lot on TikTok where they always happen to have a lot of land & a big house (& probably nannies or at least a cleaner) & mum is making mozzarella from the milk from their dairy cows who frolick in the fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:05 PM
3

Lol. “I don’t like statistics so I’m gonna blame them on a conspiracy of feminazis!”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 05:37 PM
1

I know what it is. Once again, I’m referring to how OP is using it and saying it’s false. They’ve taken the Pareto principle and falsely applied it to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:48 PM
3

We have to. Because men will fuck anything, it means we have to be more suspicious of their intentions. Attention from random men becomes a massive turnoff when most of your day is spent trying to avoid it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:39 PM
2

That’s the same for men. Guys are always only talking about first impressions as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:14 PM
3

It has every relevance because it disproves the 80/20 “rule”. It’s not a “rule”, it’s just made up bullshit by some guy who posted some fake tinder profiles and talked to a few women who responded.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:00 PM
-1

No, they don’t. It’s just “wow- he’s hot!” and then I continue on with my day. Charisma, intelligence, humour are all far more interesting and far more likely to get my attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 03:58 PM
0

I don’t live my day to day looking at men simply to judge their fuckabilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 03:44 PM
0

You’re confusing “are attractive looking” with “causing sexual attraction”. Those are 2 different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 03:43 PM
1

That’s not proof of anything. https://www.globaldatinginsights.com/news/this-study-reveals-how-men-women-behave-on-tinder/?amp Just swiping any and every woman on tinder doesn’t mean men are less interested in looks than women are
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 03:33 PM
3

It was women rating men on an attractiveness scale, but had nothing to do with how they interacted on the platform or who they messaged. It was actually men who were chasing the most attractive women (not to mention younger).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 02:59 PM
1

I know what it is. But it’s now used by men who are convinced 80% of women are chasing the top 20% of men, which is a fiction. It’s what OP is talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 02:58 PM
-3

The 80/20 rule is bullshit, though. Complete fiction made up by some incel-type dude after getting a questionnaire filled out by 27… men. Who women rated as attractive had no correlation whatsoever with who they messaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 02:44 PM
3

This would be a nice change. Men finally recognising women for their merit, rather than helplessly pulling their puds and having tantrums.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 02:01 PM
0

Lol. RP men are nothing but. Women live rent free in your heads while you obsess over how other men have told you you do or don’t match up to your own fantasy of what a perfect man should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 08:07 AM
-7

Are you not able to grow one yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:06 PM
-8

Being the initiator is a really temporary move. That’s like, 1st or 2nd date. I personally have been the initiator in most of my relationships anyhow. Being the first person to ask “do you want to go for dinner” shouldn’t be taking that much out of you. It’s not easy, granted, and rejection can hurt, but there shouldn’t be that much involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 07:37 AM
-2

We don’t. But men absolutely slate women for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 07:05 AM
11

Disagree. Men get lazy and comfortable in a relationship. It takes me a long time to pull the plug on things, but when I do, I’m 100% there already. And I tend to not be looking for another one for a long time, although it’s possible there’s something else that interests me. Depends. A lot of guys I know are serial monogamists though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 07:03 AM
4

… really? You’re not going to look and see if maybe it was all in your mind or maybe they’re really following you? You’re not going to look to see if maybe they’re really close or maybe they disappeared? I might add I was 15.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:42 AM
1

I didn’t fictionalise anything, mate. I’m just saying what you said in that horrific story: you were “gobsmacked” and “shocked”. Even “offended”. It must’ve been horrifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:40 AM
5

I remember this time when I was just innocently out shopping, I’d barely turned 15. It was just a nice summer day and I happened to glance up at this older guy who was just innocently standing there. Was he looking at me? Hard to tell as he had sunglasses on. Anyhow, after I got over being narcissistic, I went into a shop and looked at some stuff. When I turned around, I saw him staring thru the window, smiling. Being nice. Obviously- what’s wrong with a guy looking thru the window? Then he walk…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:26 AM
1

Did you get charged with a criminal offence? Because I’m just hearing hurt feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:05 AM
-1

What? I’ve no idea what you’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 06:39 AM
11

Commentators giving their opinion (usually to gain traction and monetise a platform) doesn’t mean it’s a truth. It could just as easily be totally fabricated. Equally, there’s very clear links with conservative “think tanks” with undeclared donors, the whole network of foaming, screechy bible thumpers and several conservative billionaires funnelling money into promoting “traditional values”. As a “campaign”, it’s not remotely new. There’ve been women promoting “wholesome christian homemaking” fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:38 AM
1

Weird, because that’s a pretty common tactic used to rope women into gangs, and Tate described it in detail as how he lures women into working in his porn empire. I’ve seen the idea that women fake attachment in order to take men’s resources used repeatedly in this sub. How is it now “complete BS”?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:32 AM
1

The conviction rate for rapists stands somewhere between 1-2%. Conviction rate for male sexual predators is only roughly 60% to recently as low as 30% here, because of the constant fucking funding cuts and post covid backup of cases. This is uk data. Not sure where you are (or if you know a single real statistic). While rape is a crime specific to penile penetration, laws & legal definitions are constantly being reviewed. While I agree on principle that women should be able to be charged with ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:25 AM
13

You’re asking for a definitive answer from all women based on a hypothetical you pulled out of your ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 02:21 AM
1

Why would she bother? How much of a prize is a wrinkly old guy who can only get his rocks off with a woman 1/2 his age?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 11:55 PM
1

You didn’t get me. You missed the part where I said she probably wouldn’t date him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:35 PM
1

Like I said, I doubt she’d date him. She doesn’t sound shy or introverted. However… let’s say she did. Then probably more maternal. However, there isn’t necessarily a power imbalance in this scenario. IF he’s genuinely emotionally stable & healthy and his virgin status is accidental, then I don’t particularly see it being a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:33 PM
5

Ok, thanks for the links. Did you read them? I ask because the 1st one is specific to using misogynistic language (so, victim from both sexes would largely be female). Also- “Looking at this data set of thousands of pieces of misogynistic abuse, and looking at the people the perpetrators of this abuse were following, gave us a good indication of who they were,” he said. “The algorithm suggested 50% were women, and a cursory look at who they were following – Beyoncé, One Direction and Justin Bieb…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:04 PM
9

Leering at, harassing and sending death threats to women is not expressing your sexuality. No normal person would object to these posters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 08:28 PM
4

Then what’s the point of your post? Nothing you said is remotely different to what women think of men who want very young women. No woman is remotely “confused” about the “why” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 08:16 PM
3

But you said “having fun and wanting to fuck are all that are necessary”. Now suddenly she’s supposed to keep you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 08:11 PM
1

How does a 20 year old woman have 15+ bodies and 4 LTRs in her past? Regardless some high school relationships and a few teenage shags doesn’t amount to “life experience”. Does she have a more interesting life than him? Most definitely I’d guess. She’s probably more healthy emotionally and more secure. That’s why she’s be unlikely to date him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 08:09 PM
9

“It is important to note, however, that neither of these studies recruited representative samples of women, so we cannot know if these percentages are accurate for women in general.” From that study.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 07:53 PM
9

But we’re not lacking in cognitive empathy. We are in agreement re your reasons for chasing young skirt. We know it’s because of a certain amount of shallowness, selfishness & probably a lack of emotional maturity. I look down on you for using “big words” you’ve picked up without understanding what they mean. You seem to think that our cognitive empathy should lead us to be sympathetic. That’s not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 07:39 PM
3

And MRAs talk more about women like this than the other way round. Not sure what point you’re trying to make
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 07:26 PM
2

And as soon as they’re a few years older you throw them under the bus as being “used up” and low value because of a high body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 07:22 PM
2

How many girls at your high school? Two? Is that why you assume it’s 100% of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 06:47 PM
5

Statistically not true as the largest % of married couples are within 1-2 years of each other. A man won’t see it as an issue because he’s only interested in casual sex that doesn’t ask too much of him. And the whole “been there, done that”, jaded attitude makes him feel more mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 06:43 PM
15

Lol- but here’s you in your post complaining that women aren’t being empathetic as to why you chase young skirt. Sounds like you desperately want it. Make up your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 06:35 PM
3

How has this, as a strategy, been “super successful”? The majority of men I know think the idea of dating a woman that young is dreadful as there’d be no common ground. In my 20s, there’s no way I’d date a guy 10 years older than me as they were boring, had already “been there, done that” and again - not much to relate to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 06:32 PM
3

I never saw such a big age gap, it was mostly a one year gap - or rather, grade - so “school year”.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 06:23 PM
7

Not sure why these explanations are supposed to illicit empathy. These are pretty much the same reasons women give as to why men go after young women. None of them deserve any sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 06:18 PM
2

It’s always seemed to be shorthand to say the same thing, tbh. You could say one or the other, they both mean the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 06:03 PM
3

I don’t think feminists deny young women do that at all. A large part of feminism is understanding there’s not much difference between genders. These relationships are pretty transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 05:53 PM
2

No, women aren’t just parroting a concept that has to do with just brain development, but life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 05:48 PM
3

Nothing about this is pro feminist. She sounds like a red pill woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 04:20 PM
7

This may be news to you, but women aren’t all the same. There’s nothing “up” with them. Even if you gathered all the … “slutty”… women into one group and asked them individually, you’d find 100s of different answers. I’m sure most are ok. There’s probably quite a few who aren’t. There’s a constant flow of memes about “sad lonely boys who just want a cuddle”, the same can apply to women. If you go to incelexit sub, there’s loads of posts where what they want most from a hookup or relationship is …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:42 PM
1

So, I read every single title for 2017 and I can’t find the study you say you’ve used. Care to provide a link?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 08:49 AM
2

You’ve made that data up. Handsomeness absolutely doesn’t mean “sexually desire”.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 03:21 PM
1

So? There’s no such thing as “desperate for pussy”. If you have toddler-level impulse control that’s just your own fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 08:27 AM
1

No one gets an inflated ego from boys like you giving them attention. Most guys just think they deserve better than they do, as shown by the ok Cupid data.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 08:26 AM
1

Sure. High being better quality with adult levels of impulse control.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 08:58 PM
-2

No one at Brad Pitt level is desperate to sleep with any woman. Shitty men who think they’re Brad Pitt are why women get picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 08:58 PM
0

But boys do the same any time they get pussy. Women don’t get an inflated ego from being shagged by guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 07:29 PM
-10

Women don’t gain “power” from men being pussy-chasers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 05:32 PM
5

I’ve no idea what you mean by “free attention”, but it sounds a lot like sexual harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 05:31 PM
1

Someone has height issues, I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 10:33 AM
-1

I never said that. The thing with the commenters here is they passionately believe in reducing relationships to a base mammalian act. In which case, yes: a woman who commits to having a family is being entirely reasonable to look for a man of higher income, because children have such a negative impact on her entire life. Not to mention, women do on average 5 hrs/week more of the domestic chores, so that cuts into my quality f life even more. If I earn £50k independently & a man earns the same, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 10:44 PM
2

You can literally google fairly extensive studies across the eu showing you’ve got it wrong. And I just explained how motherhood impacts women, and yet you pretend it’s not a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 08:16 PM
4

Good for you. So, you’re 50, whining about how superficial women are, yet talking about how you’d love to bang a girl 1/2 your age? Tells a story, doesn’t it…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 08:03 PM
2

Because women are earning their own money & buying their own houses. Becoming a mother has a massively negative effect on a woman’s earnings and career. And… studies say it’s men who have the real problems with women earning more than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 08:01 PM
5

2005 was before we were all reading the shit men spew about women online. If I was in my 20s when comments like the ones here existed, I wouldn’t have been dating either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 07:55 PM
2

Wait till you hear how men from every age bracket including 50+ are mostly messaging women in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 07:47 PM
5

20 year old study from china, an entirely different culture. Plenty of modern ones disprove this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 07:46 PM
2

Crazy. We’ll be loosing all this soon anyhow if our Tories have their way. The whole point of Brexit was to drop all our standards as low as the USA. 😢
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 06:19 PM
1

Nope. https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/more-women-miss-out-on-paid-leave-than-men/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:35 PM
4

Statutory 28 days paid leave here in the uk plus bank holidays. For now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:29 PM
1

Major reason is misogyny in the medical field and the absolute disastrous shitshow which was (still is) doctors refusing to prescribe HRT and women having been frightened into not taking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:26 PM
1

No. YOU search out views that fit YOUR narrative. Which is why YOU go to YouTube and watch nobodies hustling money off sad men, and I read the actual studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 09:36 AM
1

Yes. Because as usual, you obviously never read the study itself and you’ve been fed 1 piece of data from it by misogynists who’ve deliberately misrepresented the findings.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 08:29 AM
4

Why would I have some random twat spoon feed me studies when I can read them myself? How do you know he’s interpreted them truthfully? He EXPECTS you to be too lazy to research yourself, which is why you’re watching a video in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 09:22 PM
4

That’s an experiment designed by a child. I never said they don’t go for handsome guys or that they’ll go for whales. I said that studies repeatedly show that men are more likely to go for women who are very attractive, and far more attractive than them on a scale (& also younger, but that’s another conversation).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 09:21 PM
5

Lol, wut? If there’s no value in an experienced woman, then why is his experience shagging young girls of any value? The orgasm gap proves they’re still shit in bed. I’ve got no idea what you’re on about with being humble and tortured or whatever. Is an alpha male your fantasy male? No one was bullying losers, we’re specifically talking about your fantasy. Alpha male is a loser. I don’t want Mr Handsome, Tall Red Pill dude to share anything, least of all his STDs. What is he winning at? Being ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 08:38 PM
10

Sorry, do you think science comes from a YouTuber called wheat waffles? Which university does he work out of? Any qualifications besides hustling insecure kids to get their face rated? Did you even look at his list of “sources”? Surly it must cross your mind to think that maybe a guy making money off of YT videos has an agenda?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 08:30 PM
2

For sure. Any outside monitoring will be better than none. I reckon we’ll very quickly be seeing voluntary euthanasia become legal in more countries, tbh. The capitalist solution to cut expenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 08:15 PM
6

I’ve not seen your “opinion” shown in actual studies, though. The most thorough ones from dating websites show that men will mostly message the most attractive, whereas women are mostly in the middle. There was a stat saying that the average character length of a message sent by men is 6 characters, and a woman’s 112. I’m not saying women will all go for uggers and fall in love solely based on his personality, but they’ll be more likely to actually discover personality and connection based on so…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 07:18 PM
2

You think you know women from watching angry men yelling on YouTube. There’s a wealth of studies showing that men rate physical attractiveness far higher than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 06:54 PM
3

That’s how it always used to be until not too long ago. The pension act was only thought of in early 1900s.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 06:28 PM
20

I believe countries that are starting to focus on making fathers take leave as well are starting to see better results (although it’s very early). Fathers made to take time off, where they’re allowed to drop work and see to a family emergency or a doctors appointment etc (usually the woman’s job) are reporting a deeper bond with their children and overall more happiness & enjoying sharing in domestic chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 06:25 PM
8

For every single guy there’s almost the same number of single women. There’s loads of average genetic guys who are convinced it’s their looks, when it’s actually their shit personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 06:21 PM
11

My dad ran a nursing home. Having kids doesn’t stop you from being left to die alone, trust me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 06:16 PM
0

It actually IS the main contributor. You can look up the economics of it. You pretend that single motherhood doesn’t increase crime in women, yet you also say poor women commit more crime. Single mother households are poorer by a long shot. Stop trying to blame mothers while idolising an absentee parent as the ideal “if he only stuck around”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 06:11 PM
6

Abortion IS taking accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 06:07 PM
2

There’s no way to know if they’re not a deadbeat, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 06:04 PM
5

Are these real RP men also inexperienced? Do they remain virgins until they find the hottest girl imaginable?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 05:59 PM
0

Nobody’s “creating” fatherless children just for some pissant child support. The children aren’t miracles, a father was always there. Or not there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 05:53 PM
1

It won’t make them, but it could be the difference between having a child or choosing to abort it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 05:49 PM
10

Surly it’s obvious? Women will be quite happy to remain single and childless & the birth rate will continue to drop. There’s no indication that women are “yearning” for children, so why should they drop their standards? The only way to improve the birthdate is to make it less of a financial disaster if they do decide to have kids. America won’t understand this concept at all, since they blame poor people for being poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 05:47 PM
5

More men say attraction is a dealbreaker than women. Or rather - they don’t actually come out and say it, but multiple studies prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 05:43 PM
13

More men say attraction is a dealbreaker than women. Or rather - they don’t actually come out and say it, but multiple studies prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 05:43 PM
1

It’s not. It’s a genuine question for someone who believes they should seek out virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:42 PM
1

So, OP - you’re a virgin & staying that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 12:12 PM
1

While official marriage was maybe confined to the upper classes, the laws that forbade women from owning property or owning the earnings they made from work were universal. The idea that women became “chattel” upon marriage was also the norm. Everything they owned, made or inherited became the property of the husband. So, sure, let’s talk about modern women today. As per usual, you’re treating women as a monolith. You’re also pretending that men aren’t deliberately making a decision to marry som…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 01:54 PM
-1

What’s been universal throughout history is a woman’s family marrying her in order for the family to move up. What’s universal is women having not much say in who they marry. I’m not sure where you get this information from. Women have historically had no choice, because ANY marriage was “up” since women had no access to money, property or independence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 09:05 PM
2

So now we’ve jumped from 7000 years ago to a mythical prehistoric where there’s no evidence whatsoever about how humans lived 🙄 Weird that your fantasy isn’t how most mammals work, but somehow she’s too primitive to understand “he man”, yet still is cunning enough to get herself a slave with her vagina 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:36 PM
4

That’s a “I’m a shit driver with impulse control problems” story.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:17 PM
0

This has always been the pushback, it’s not new. Their homophobia just makes the lgbtq community an easy example to hold up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:15 PM
4

The internet is also full of men desperately hoping promiscuous women and single women aren’t happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:09 PM
0

I don’t understand how you’re pretending that women had agency in all these scenarios. The idea she’d have been able to just leave a guy is debatable. A man with kids who loses his wife wouldn’t be as much of a hypergamic “catch”, as he would be more likely to get himself a young bride because it was understood he had better things to do than raise children. Likewise, for much of history, not getting children and not bearing sons was considered a woman’s fault. So it would be much easier for him…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:04 PM
1

Real men don’t concern themselves more with money than a child’s well-being.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 07:31 PM
2

It does with adults. And… most adults aren’t desperately trying to make their feathers shake for other men’s approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 07:29 PM
1

I know several men who never had their own kids and love their step kids as their own. Such a puny mind, thinking one has to “own” something for it to have value. You’re so weirdly infantile to think it’d be a point of pride and not shame to have not paid for your child’s support.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 03:16 AM
21

No it isn’t. They seem to focus on the gay community. How many of the 3000 were women? How many hetero? How did they advertise their survey? What were the age ranges of respondents? It’s garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 02:44 AM
-4

Why is paying to support a child “humiliating” to a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 02:34 AM
13

If your sole interest in your spawn is replicating your genes and your sole interest in a woman is for her to provide you with a womb you’re trying to get as cheaply as possible, why bother with this at all? Just do like you said: save up for a surrogate and get mummy to raise it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 02:58 PM
0

I can’t decide whether you’re thick, or just have an adolescent sense of humour. Odd that you don’t see a bunch of Catholic men wielding privilege in their anti-abortion stance.
/r/AntiFeminists06/10/22 10:03 AM
2

Are you a forced birther?
/r/AntiFeminists05/10/22 09:38 PM
21

I’m not sure what you’re expecting considering that’s how you came across in your ad. They’re perfectly entitled to only want a 1 night stand from someone who’s dick-centred in how he puts himself across. A woman can love sex in the moment even though it wasn’t sensual and exciting enough to want to carry on with. Like I said: a big dick is really just a one horse pony. It has limited value, although when you’re in the mood it can be satisfying, even if you don’t orgasm from it. It’s good you go…
/r/seduction03/09/22 12:13 PM
38

You don’t, because they live in a world where they’re constantly judged by men.
/r/seduction03/09/22 11:52 AM
46

I don’t get what you’re complaining about, considering the language you’re using regarding the women you slept with. I’d also suggest you have an overblown impression of how good you are in the bedroom, perhaps. Take that as constructive criticism- a big dick isn’t as exciting as you think if that’s all you’ve got as game.
/r/seduction03/09/22 11:49 AM
1

No. I’m quite adamant about accurate info regarding adhd, so I won’t do that. If someone is being wilfully obtuse, knowing nothing but still acting like an expert, I’m free to correct them how I see fit.
/r/AntiFeminists14/08/22 12:44 AM
0

Dude… seriously. It’s been 100 years. And if you put how women were treated back then into context, you wouldn’t be sitting there getting so offended by one quote you pretend defines a whole varied movement. Women weren’t even allowed their own bank accounts or credit cards until the 70s, ffs. You seem to believe the world was like it is now way back then. Jesus. Anyhow, I’m outta here. Stay angry ✌️
/r/AntiFeminists08/08/22 08:34 PM
1

“Every single one of you are man haters”. That’s exactly my point. I actually know loads of feminists. They’re not on Reddit though, as it’s a shithole. I’d guarantee plenty of them you say you “know” are just posts from Tweenies that are being amplified my MRAs. And using “feminazi”, when I’ve been nothing of the sort, dumbs down anything you say. Again, it’s a pity you guys learn nothing. Peace back at ya.
/r/AntiFeminists08/08/22 08:13 PM
0

The problem is it’s always more nuanced. For example- if your dad got custody L, he would STILL have been fucked because he likely wouldn’t have been able to work. Daycare is vastly more expensive than child support. There’s also the issue with subs like these where every man is yelling how unfair it is to spend money on a child, hating on women as though they’re all evil for wanting to have a child, whining about not wanting to pay & being able to diddle around deciding yes/no while the woman i…
/r/AntiFeminists08/08/22 07:39 PM
1

Now I see why this is so personal. I won’t ask why your dad or social services didn’t get involved. Drug addiction changed everything. While I’m really sorry for what you went through (I’ve known some with stories like yours, except both parents were addicts), it still doesn’t mean a man should be allowed to not pay. I don’t think your situation would have been improved by your dad not paying something towards your family, such as it was. I AM, as it happens, as a feminist, against coercion. But…
/r/AntiFeminists08/08/22 06:28 PM
2

Lol. The guy with no statistics is asking for them. The average CS payment is $500/month, although most don’t get full payment. That doesn’t go a long way for a single person, much less 2. If what you said was true, there’s be dead, starved babies everywhere.
/r/AntiFeminists08/08/22 05:37 PM
1

Dude- you’ve got this weird notion that the man pays 100% of a child’s needs. He doesn’t. Not at ALL. You also seem to think that the mother will now be living it easy while poor guy sweats his balls off. Not the case- single mothers are a huge demographic living below the poverty line. And it’s not because they’re just watching tv, it’s because THEY can’t get 3 jobs like he can, because she’s also looking after the child. It’s CHILD support. Get it? And states RIGHTLY put the needs of a child A…
/r/AntiFeminists08/08/22 05:27 PM
-2

I think there should be some form of consent, but it must be prior to sex even taking place. Men have this idea that abortions are an easy option for women, when they’re not at all. America in particular has a large Christian population. I absolutely do not think that a man’s money should be prioritised after a pregnancy has occurred.
/r/AntiFeminists08/08/22 05:09 PM
-2

So you think a woman should carry a baby the full nine months and go thru childbirth, then the guy can turn into an asshole and dump the baby. Because little diddums wants to buy himself a nicer car. 30% of single fathers receive child support. Does that mean the woman can just dump him and the kids to live in poverty because she wants a better guy?
/r/AntiFeminists08/08/22 05:00 PM
-5

I can’t believe you don’t have the mental capacity to get your head round this. You’re either very young or very thick. 😂
/r/AntiFeminists08/08/22 04:55 PM
5

How do you figure feminism caused men to pay for seeing naked women? 😂 Prostitutes, concubines, titty shows and peep shows have been around for all of our known history. And OnlyFans has made the MEN who created it billionaires. How has this anything to do with feminism? 😂😂😂
/r/AntiFeminists07/08/22 02:50 PM
0

By “simp”, do you mean average, grown up adult male? For me, “evolutionary psychology” is just a bit fun at best. It’s a theory, not anything one can prove or say for certain. We know practically nothing about our ancestors and a lot of it is just trying to justify an assumption. “Hypergamy” is just common sense. If I earn $100k and plan to have kids I don’t want to dump on strangers, it makes practical, economic sense to want a man who earns more than me, since my wages will be cut drastically …
/r/AntiFeminists07/08/22 01:36 AM
0

😂😂😂 that’s pretty rich, considering what comes from a quick scan of your own.
/r/AntiFeminists06/08/22 02:55 PM
-2

But why? Either way, the little boys on here will castigate her. They’re all quick to point out any woman who does this as a gold-digger or after something. How can we have the pick of all the best men AND also have to lower our standards? Tbh- the notion of “lower standards” itself is doubtful. A lot of it is simply maturing for both sexes. SO MANY of these “studies” are done with uni students, they’re not even remotely worth paying attention to unless specifically speaking about under 25s.
/r/AntiFeminists06/08/22 02:53 PM
0

Fascinating argument.
/r/AntiFeminists06/08/22 02:38 PM
-6

Women don’t date down because of having kids. Yawn… a lot of this is just you doing lazy “thinking” based on made up assumptions and your preference to think men are “strong providers”. There’s no evidence men are geared to “provide”, except that it helped them attract a mate. However, now you want to moan about providing and how unfair that is, while also expecting women to find that attractive and lower their standards, despite childbirth still being a factor when it comes to finding a partner…
/r/AntiFeminists06/08/22 12:36 PM
1

You missed out a LOT about what that study says as well. My MASSIVE issue with these studies is they’re almost all exclusively done on extremely young people (this one: 1st year uni students) for course credit. Considering an average 1st year uni student has only a few years of relationship experience and is still several years away from their brain being fully adult, saying that these studies apply to ALL WOMEN is shockingly biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 10:59 AM
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The post isn’t even a “stat”, it’s an observation. The person who made the observation is very clear it’s a small sample size and wasn’t done with any rigour regarding how selection of statistics were calculated.
/r/AntiFeminists06/08/22 10:39 AM
0

I should have clarified that I don’t think there’s any real way to compare countries during Covid as there’s too many variables. 2: not sure what having a larger pool has to do with anything regarding women in leadership positions. Generally they’re comparing large Fortune 500 companies, so you’re just taking a random guess to try and prove your point. 3 is again an assumption based on nothing but opinion, and is hugely variable depending on the country. I don’t see any evidence saying “public s…
/r/AntiFeminists06/08/22 10:37 AM
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Wait… so Forbes is biased, whereas some random on Reddit isn’t? Btw- that’s entirely based on Covid data, which is hugely complicated. Population density, whether they were part of a continent, how they crunched numbers and how they reported are factors individual to each country and practically impossible to compare (example I know of: Belgium tracked Covid from ANY mention on death certificate and included deaths that were “likely”, from before there were even tests. That’s completely differen…
/r/AntiFeminists06/08/22 10:24 AM
-1

No- you’re just WRONG, dude. It’s not just arguing, you’re simply plain wrong. Ffs- people can be wrong, it’s not like you’re getting “cancelled” or picked on. You’re simply misinformed.
/r/AntiFeminists05/08/22 08:15 PM
-1

There IS no article that is any more than clickbait- my point still stands: ADHD meds are STIMULANTS. They don’t make boys “behave like women”. It’s not that you didn’t explain it “right”, it’s that you have ZERO UNDERSTANDING of what you’re talking about.
/r/AntiFeminists05/08/22 07:55 PM
-2

I’m not being ignorant, you’re trying to compare apples and oranges. Nanook is over 100 years old as a documentary- when in western civilisation child labour was still easily a thing and only the most basic and rudimentary education was even bothered with in poorer and more agricultural societies.
/r/AntiFeminists05/08/22 06:58 PM
-1

God… that’s embarrassing 😂😂😂 I bet you also scream about how fathers should automatically get 50/50 custody, even when that’s how they think of their kids 😂🤢
/r/AntiFeminists05/08/22 06:47 PM
-2

I mean… you’re a sad sack that thinks because you can’t control your dick you shouldn’t pay child support, so… 🤷‍♀️
/r/AntiFeminists05/08/22 06:44 PM
0

Actually, because girls with ADD often don’t have the hyper attitude, they’re critically under-diagnosed. ADHD meds don’t make people “behave like girls”. First off- they’re actually stimulants, so if the kid didn’t have ADHD, he’d become MORE hyper.
/r/AntiFeminists05/08/22 06:29 PM
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In a tribal society, there’s very little education, especially for girls. So your opinion is just that- pulled out of your butt.
/r/AntiFeminists05/08/22 06:27 PM
0

Sure. Use hookers. They value money and sex the same way you do: as a transactional relationship.
/r/AntiFeminists05/08/22 06:20 PM
-5

Stats don’t back you up.
/r/AntiFeminists05/08/22 06:04 PM
-7

Where do you find stats that say that though? Every study points to the opposite https://www.forbes.com/sites/avivahwittenbergcox/2021/03/06/data-shows-women-make-better-leaders-who-cares/?sh=3c77b62e46be
/r/AntiFeminists05/08/22 06:03 PM
-4

Men are hypogamous. That’s why they like younger women who aren’t as smart and don’t talk as much as they do.
/r/AntiFeminists05/08/22 06:02 PM
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Any evidence that women are bad leaders? Data seems to tell the opposite https://www.forbes.com/sites/avivahwittenbergcox/2021/03/06/data-shows-women-make-better-leaders-who-cares/?sh=3c77b62e46be
/r/AntiFeminists05/08/22 06:00 PM
1

Yes. Already told you feminists think that’s wrong. NOW there’s gonna be loads of women being forced to have their rapist’s baby. But that would require you to think outside of your own whiny needs. So I don’t expect sod-all from children like you. That’s why you need to stop pulling at feminists apron strings demanding attention. Stand up like a big boy and fight your own battles. There’s a good boy. Signing off because I can’t cope with the immature pimple popping crybaby attitudes here. Go ci…
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 10:54 PM
1

Pricks with your attitude don’t deserve it. And yet this is a fundamental entitlement whiny ass MRAs think they should have. Genuine question… are you not feeling cringe being more obsessed with your money than you are with a child’s life? This is why feminists don’t listen to you. You’re not an MRA, you’re just a whiny and selfish little brat. It’s SOOOOOOO unattractive you wouldn’t believe. SUCH a turnoff. Yurk. 🤢🤢🤢
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 10:49 PM
2

Males don’t get pregnant though.
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 10:46 PM
0

There’s this crazy thing called bodily autonomy. Btw- when men constantly make these sad ass arguments, whining about their money and they should have the right to save money and fuck what happens to their child- out of curiosity, do you think it makes men sound like they deserve custody of any child at all?
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 10:45 PM
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There’s tonnes of cases where women were raped and had a child, too. And at what point do men get to change their mind?
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 10:43 PM
1

😂😂😂😂😂 as if. Get your mum online and I’ll tell her how to look. You sound cranky anyhow. She should check on you
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 08:33 PM
-1

I’m sorry you need mummy to help you with a search bar. 😢
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 08:31 PM
-1

😂😂 I couldn’t give af about your opinion, angry little man. I’m not spoon-feeding your diapered ass.
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 08:29 PM
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Financial abortion is utterly repugnant as a term. It shows you have zero respect for women or what abortion even entails. Child support is about the child, period. Not to mention 30% of single fathers ALSO receive child support, and I bet you didn’t know that and that’s why it’s not a gendered issue. The second topic gets brought up at least weekly, and no: feminists don’t support it at all. As far as demanding that women be quiet and pay attention to your rights and drop everything to support …
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 07:56 PM
0

See… now that’s the kind of response you wouldn’t find there.
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 02:35 PM
-2

😂 fair enough.
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 02:34 PM
-3

Why would this hurt anyone’s ego? The people in ask feminist are well educated and give considered answers. But the framing of his question was blatantly goading and antagonistic. There’s no duty to reply to that.
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 01:53 PM
-1

Calm down. No one forced him to post. No one’s seeking him out to “mess with his head”- HE made the approach with the exact same intention.
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 01:52 PM
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No. It’s because it’s low-effort and antagonistic. It’s very dull having someone like you who’s just seeking attention (like reposting here) demanding a response, when it seems fairly obvious you don’t really know much about what you’re asking anyhow.
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 01:50 PM
2

I can’t because I’m locked out of it. I made about 2 comments before I was banned for being in “askfeminists”. I hadn’t read much from their rule book except they hate feminists. They want to be transitional feminine roles: ie, pretty, rubbing a man’s shoulders when he comes in from work, just being a housewife and using their “hypergamy” as fair exchange for what they receive. They’re actually playing the ideal red piller’s woman. You used to be able to see the rule book, now it looks like you …
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 10:54 AM
0

No, there aren’t good reasons why being a feminist is a stigma. Only if you’re one of those “all lives matter” types who can’t see what’s being said. The fact that you “feel” red pill is more justified is a nothing. Feelings aren’t facts. Your personal biases will always influence your feelings, so they don’t count. Neither do mine, by the way. Yes- I reject all those phrases as whiny, entitled men trying to create reasons for men to hate women. It’s the exact puerile garbage used in FDS. Becaus…
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 09:50 AM
0

FDS.
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 09:42 AM
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Let’s just be clear: they’re being exactly what a redpill man thinks a woman is and what they say they’d like. So… redpill guy thinks women are all about hypergamy, and what he needs is a feminine woman who will care for him and appreciate “what he brings to the table”. FDS goes full tilt into hypergamy, being well groomed and attractive and they bring to the table what he wants: happy home, fertile & attractive, impressed with all his alpha traits. I got blocked for being a feminist within an h…
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 01:58 AM
2

Cool. Be my guest.
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 01:53 AM
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They’re the female equivalent of redpill. As in, being redpill about what men want and what they can get.
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 01:48 AM
2

It’s worse than that. Anything we say is deemed “trying to save face”, and meanwhile shorter men are left with masses of stress and anxiety. It also doesn’t allow for other perceptions, such as women are prettier if they’re waif like and delicate, AND they look sexier to men in heels (and to themselves as it lengthens the leg). I don’t know a single woman who isn’t preoccupied with her weight and a lot of self-esteem issues are tied up with “do I look fat?”. So, being next to a shorter man immed…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 01:15 AM
2

Lol- sorry. What I mean is it’s an outside influence that’s not taken into account. It’s sort of like saying “100% of women are against abortion” without mentioning the survey was taken in an evangelical church. When these silly surveys get translated into men’s spaces, they become far more meaningful than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 12:53 AM
1

Well… it will completely skew the data. You can’t make a comparison between men’s views re women and vice versa because there’s no equal influence happening regarding, say, men liking very short women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 12:42 AM
1

The fact that it’s a society-wide preference though is never mentioned. Instead men accuse women of lying when loads of them say “actually, it’s not that big a deal”. It may help an initial attractive trait, but it doesn’t mean all women whose partners are under 6’ have “settled”.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 12:38 AM
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All the data also shows that MEN like men who are taller than them. Taller men get paid more, get better promotions, are seen as more charismatic and more as “leaders”. You boys have a thing for it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 12:32 AM
2

They’re anti-feminism. You’ll get the exact same message from them from the other side.
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 12:18 AM
-1

FDS is anti-feminist.
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 12:17 AM
5

They actually have the same blanket ban for feminists. They hate feminism.
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 12:12 AM
1

Jesus, I’m so sorry. I find the whole baby-shopping slant of forced birthers particularly repugnant. Utter self-interest when there’s plenty of kids in care.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 07:41 PM
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But it aligns with your beliefs, so you adopt it as your political system.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 07:39 PM
1

And must be why me having zero hand/eye coordination meant I could still kill my target many ways. However, it did bring home to me just how damn dangerous these things are, and really have no place in civilian life. And certainly not when you’re 18 and angry. It’s insane.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 07:06 PM
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Inceldom and conservativism both rely on a hierarchy where women are inferior. I mean- all those values are talked about constantly in the extreme manosphere. Their values line up very well. Look at the Taliban, for instance. Exactly the same POV and men.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 07:03 PM
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Uh huh. But you guys don’t do national service or anything, do you? I mean.. I know countries are looking into it- mostly because a lot of men choose the alternative (I think in some countries you can choose service, or a longer time doing voluntary work in the community or something) and there’s not the numbers to be found in men. There’s also lots of exceptions, like you guys have. Maybe you should demand that clergy also get drafted? I do think it’s fair that countries with national service m…
/r/MensRights05/07/22 06:57 PM
1

Me neither- they told me that at the range. I think it cost a bomb, $4k I think the guy said.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 06:45 PM
-1

Put both on a Venn diagram and you’ll see a big overlap, though.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 06:39 PM
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Sure. But most of what America does is fight other wars. I read somewhere that throughout your ENTIRE history as a country, there’s only been 18 YEARS where you haven’t been involved somewhere. And aside from when you were fighting each other, not a lot has happened on American soil. I read recently that Lithuania looked into it, but decided against purely because it would double the cost of their army? Or add €500 million to it expense-wise. I couldn’t find why, though. Probably not the same fo…
/r/MensRights05/07/22 06:30 PM
2

I don’t think you can ban all guns in America- there’s just an insane amount. You have the most guns per capita than anywhere else in the world, and #2 has 1/2 what America does (I think it’s 102/100 in USA guns:people, and in 2nd place it’s 62/100). I’m in the U.K. where even our cops don’t carry. It’s nice. Or, nicer, at least. There’s knives. But even our knife crime is lower than American’s. My brother lives in Texas and I got to shoot whatever the gun is Keannu reeves has in the John Wick m…
/r/MensRights05/07/22 06:24 PM
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Dude… everything you’ve said is about your feelings rather than knowledge. Tbh, your Dems are barely even centrists to the rest of the world. And your Republicans are extremists. Republicans never say anything about the economy except one thing: cut taxes for business. Trickle down economics has been proved a lie over 30 years. They’re economically illiterate.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 05:59 PM
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Well.. at one point, they actually asked the boys and that’s what came out. I as a girl, also did shit at school because I had the same views as what they’re talking about. This seems to be particularly about language and reading skills. Could it just be about video games? Or exhausted parents just folding and giving the kid an iPad? Where I live (east end, London), there’s a very traditional view that boys go into a trade. If your dad earns good money as a sparky or a plumber, is there any imme…
/r/MensRights05/07/22 05:54 PM
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I’m not sure if you’re aware that practically every country is in economic crisis right now. I find it funny how you guys think it’s just your government that’s doing badly.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 05:39 PM
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Well… since you’re the only country that has to do shooter drills cos your kids are getting killed by your guns, to me it’s pretty reasonable. However, all I ever see is better background checks, and maybe people don’t need fucking armouries in their basement. And THEN- I see Republicans freaking out about it. Republicans are hyper terrorised by everything. If you call that “militaristic”, then we have a difference of perspective.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 05:31 PM
-1

Damn, that’s a thicko move. I want women to be drafted, Republicans won’t do it, but I’m mad cos I’ve decided that Democrats didn’t try hard enough so I’m gonna vote Republican cos I wanna see women drafted. There’s been no draft in 50 years, but you think this is the pressing issue above climate change, global economic meltdown and women being denied abortions. You do you.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 05:28 PM
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Lol- watching Republicans these last few years: Qanon! Democrats drinking baby blood! I won’t wear a mask! OMG- a trans person!! I’m terrified!!! They’re coming for my guns! The election was rigged! Storm the Whitehouse!! Lololol
/r/MensRights05/07/22 05:24 PM
3

40% of single fathers get child support. 52% of single mothers. The average child support payment is $500/month. America loves circumcising its children. You’re an anomaly, and I’d assume it’s because you guys are religious nutjobs. That’s what you look like from over here. It’s also dropped dramatically, but it’s still insanely high. Nothing to do with feminism.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 05:21 PM
1

Because women weren’t able to divorce as easily in the 70s.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 05:18 PM
2

Well… fetuses are female until about 9 weeks. If you didn’t have pseudo Christians throwing up barriers and delaying, you’d find most abortions happen before that time. They do in civilised countries.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 05:17 PM
1

A fetus doesn’t have a conciousness, no awareness. It’s not remotely the same thing. Here in the U.K., 90% are before 10 weeks when it’s barely the size of a chickpea.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 05:14 PM
1

It IS forced parenthood. Just because you get off on the idea that women should be punished for having sex doesn’t make it less true. Forced birthers are all the same.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 05:12 PM
2

Doesn’t say what you think it does. It’s because there were 4x as many children in 3rd class than in 1st & 2nd. 3rd class got f*cked.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 04:55 PM
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I only got to page 30 but that’s not what I’m reading. They’re basically saying that “macho” identity (which is prevalent in disadvantaged boys) tends to undervalue schoolwork. Boys spend more time outside, peer acceptance sees swotting as “effeminate” and they can’t see the value of education practically. I gather that has something to do with trades being more lucrative, so why study. Then- there’s also expectation from teachers, and this isn’t sex specific: girls get more discipline, boys are…
/r/MensRights05/07/22 04:44 PM
-3

Definitely. I’m all for shared parenting, but I find the fact that the majority of commenters here are ONLY concerned with their wallet and being able to get out of child support is the reason I don’t concern myself with it as a men’s right I’m supposed to care about for “equality”. Where joint custody seems most successful is in Nordic countries which have implemented shared parenting & social programs (like equal paternal leave, equal number of paid sick days off to care for child emergencies,…
/r/MensRights05/07/22 01:53 PM
0

Why do you think this sun cares about that?
/r/MensRights05/07/22 10:20 AM
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Wow. Weird how the Wikipedia article plainly states it was defeated because of conservative, anti-feminist women who wanted traditional gender roles to be upheld.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 08:20 PM
-1

I didn’t say men have it better, I said they’re expected to be “the leaders”, and women are consequently treated as though they’re helpless victims. That isn’t because Belarus is a fizzing centre of feminist ideology, it’s because it’s a deeply patriarchal society where women are viewed as inferior, and therefore with more sympathy (much like sentencing a child vs sentencing an adult). So, weirdly, in Russia and Belarus, if you want women to get punished and get life sentences, your best bet wou…
/r/MensRights04/07/22 12:10 AM
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I’m well aware. Sadly, it doesn’t mean I’m not right.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 11:47 PM
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Feminism isn’t interested in punishing men. We fight for RIGHTS, we don’t fight in order to persecute men.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 11:38 PM
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They literally can’t understand it. Their seething victimhood means all that’s important is if women get punished. Even if it blows up in their face. Then they wonder why their movement doesn’t get taken seriously.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 11:24 PM
2

As a woman, he definitely should have reported it, if he could have. Some environments make it difficult for any reporting from either sex. What she did was assault. No other way around it. And, yes- I think women have to begin learning that it works both ways.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 10:39 PM
1

And… I thought Guantanamo Bay was for military combatants deemed a threat to national security? Are there women who fall into that category? I’ve never heard of any. I only know of Guantanamo from 9/11. I don’t remember any women being involved. Am I wrong? I could easily be.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 10:36 PM
0

Just because a mother can take care of the kid without financial support doesn’t mean men get to wash their hands of contributing to their kids upbringing. America is 50+ different sets of laws, so it’s hard to quantify the “more likely to lose their kids cos they’re male”. I’m pretty sure you guys would run the same as us: the CHILD has all the rights and things are done in their best interest. Again, if that meant mom took care of most of the family stuff, then that would swing it in her favou…
/r/MensRights03/07/22 10:30 PM
-1

Just… Belarus and Russia don’t remotely attack men’s rights. They believe the whole “men are protectors & leaders, a woman’s place is in the kitchen”. They’re not attacking your rights at all. They infantilise women, therefore you’re held more accountable. That’s not an attack on your rights, it’s a consequence of women having less.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 10:17 PM
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Then hopefully she’ll be better than how you’re being. But maybe you’re both alike.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 08:58 PM
-1

So you never promised to support her. It was always conditional and now that she’s not well, you’re bailing.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 08:53 PM
-2

I thought men weren’t hormonal?
/r/MensRights03/07/22 08:49 PM
0

I could definitely get behind some of those. The 1st 3, 100% (I’m not sure what Guantanamo bay has to do with mens rights though?). Curious regarding the draft: what are the benefits? I only know (& only thru reading) of Lithuania who apparently looked into it and decided against because it would cost so much to implement. I couldn’t find why, but I assume.. barracks, uniforms (?), health services…? I’m personally against conscription for anyone, but I don’t see a problem with it, depending how …
/r/MensRights03/07/22 07:59 PM
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I don’t know where you live, but here in the U.K. there’s not much evidence of this. The decisions aren’t - ideally - biased towards the mother so much as they are fully about what’s best for the child. So, most family units, a mother will be the one doing most of the domestic stuff, will have taken a part time job so they’re available to pick up the kids, will have been the one going to meetings and dr visits etc etc, so there’s a (obvious) assumption that things will go smoother and be easier …
/r/MensRights03/07/22 05:20 PM
2

Genuine question: what do you want to protest about?
/r/MensRights03/07/22 04:55 PM
0

Who’s demonising them? I’m not. Again, what’s most tragic about incel culture is how it turned into a place that never helped men, but turned their whole lives toxic. Feel free to report me, though. I’ve yet to see this sub do anything constructive about mens rights anyhow.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 07:48 AM
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Of course not. It’s one of the worst examples of how toxic incel culture is. Nothing to do with women, either.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 07:29 AM
-1

Eh? You’re skippy the bit where other incels agree you’re ugly and hopeless, and if you actually have some success you’re ostracised and turned on.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 07:25 AM
0

Exactly.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 12:33 AM
1

I mean.. do you want to ask why the #1 porn searches are “stepdaughter/ MIL/ daughter/sister”?
/r/MensRights02/07/22 11:33 PM
1

Bbbut… women should get drafted! Not fair!
/r/MensRights02/07/22 11:27 PM
-1

Ummm… we ARE talking about the law. Just because YOU love to use the word misandrist in nearly every comment you make doesn’t mean you get to change my pov.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 09:25 PM
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I’m not mad, I’ve just realised you don’t seem very bright. It doesn’t ignore th fact there’s more single mothers. That’s actually a point in my favour, now you mention it: it shows how many deadbeat dads there are who aren’t paying their share. Again, you have this laughable idea that CS pays for 100% of the child’s needs, when often it’s a pittance. And… I mean, fuck me, how dumb can you be talking about you wish most women paid child support when they’re usually the ones who give up a career …
/r/MensRights29/06/22 09:22 PM
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Jesus, it’s really not that complicated. The law sees everything thru the rights of the child. It’s got nothing to do with me 😂😂😂
/r/MensRights29/06/22 09:11 PM
1

Well… it fucking IS now, friend.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 09:09 PM
0

We have more reproductive autonomy because we’re the ones doing all the reproducing. You seem to think pregnancy is 9 months of eating what you want then a quick sneeze and the baby slides out. I think men should have the right to sign away rights before sex takes place so everything is clear and above board and both parties understand the risks, but again this becomes difficult when you’re dealing with immature people, and/or uneducated, and/or unsure of themselves. I think the 2 cases I’ve hea…
/r/MensRights29/06/22 09:06 PM
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Lol… I don’t see that at all. YOU guys keep banging on about your wallet’s rights. Women ALSO have all these things, which is why this decision is so horrific. You KEEP forgetting that your bit of cash is NOT all that is used to finance the child’s upbringing, so stop feeling so sorry for yourself when you see that there’s $30 billion in CS outstanding and most guys don’t pay the full amount owed. Actually, that could go for women too - since 40% of single DADS are also getting child support. Ap…
/r/MensRights29/06/22 08:56 PM
0

No, it was in response to someone saying they could back out at any point. I’ll say again, that in principle I’m for the idea that a man can give up responsibility for a child he didn’t want. In principle… because when and how he decides that matters a great deal. The maturity of both parents also matters, along with their culture and beliefs. So if you doink that sexy bird from the bar and it turns out she’s a devout Christian who’d never dream of aborting, or she’s under 18 and her family woul…
/r/MensRights29/06/22 08:49 PM
-2

Awww…at least you came out and said it: you put yourself before a child.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 08:26 PM
-6

Where’d you get that idea from? What a weird mental leap.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 08:24 PM
2

What if you said you wanted a child, then decided to dump her and you didn’t want the child?
/r/MensRights29/06/22 07:45 PM
1

That happens all the time. No woman is ever surprised hearing a story like that.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 07:43 PM
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You DO know fathers get paid child support too, right? In fact, nearly 40%. And single mothers is only about 52%. AND there’s over $30 BILLION owed, so stop pretending that you guys are hard done by, and it’s all just women lounging around eating bonbons and getting their nails done. https://www.verywellfamily.com/us-child-support-statistics-2997994
/r/MensRights29/06/22 07:41 PM
-3

Did you know that I was pro choice before we had sex? Were we clear that I felt absolutely fine about plan B, and in worst case scenario, aborting? You weirdos have a deeply religious culture over there, so there’s quite a lot of women, I’d imagine, who wouldn’t be ok with doing this just because you suddenly turned into a whiny twat complaining you couldn’t spoil yourself. There’s too many men ready to coerce women into sex too, so you can’t have a system where YOU get to decide after the fact.…
/r/MensRights29/06/22 07:01 PM
-11

You keep not understanding. The child has rights, the parent has obligations.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 06:47 PM
-5

Bullshit.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 05:08 PM
-2

I know of a few examples of men going self employed to try and pay less for their kids. Then there’s also the men who don’t pay child support at all. We need external oversight on both sides.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 05:05 PM
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Of course they do. What would be your logic behind making abortion financially impossible for women and men?
/r/MensRights29/06/22 05:03 PM
-16

When exactly do you decide your wallet deserves the most rights? Before sex, after she gets pregnant, after a divorce, when are you talking about? Because technically you’re putting your wallet’s rights over a child’s. Just curious when you think it’s the top priority.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 05:01 PM
1

It could be biological. Women are more important for our species because we carry an infant for a hugely long gestation, only have 1, and humans remain dependent for several years. Biologically, we have more value.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:13 PM
-1

It DOES matter who did what because this is being used as “oh, look, women don’t want to do a man’s job”, when I also see plenty comments about women as cops or firefighters that also say “I definitely don’t want a woman doing that, they’re too weak”. Men fighting is a traditionalist pov. Ukraine is far more complicated than USA because they didn’t have a standing military, allowed militia to come in, the whole thing is a mess. I know some countries nearby have looked into drafting men and women…
/r/MensRights27/06/22 01:18 PM
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Ukraine had barely any soldiers a few years ago - like 7000. I really don’t understand how men think this is a gotcha statement anyhow. It’s not like women designed the military and how it works. And it’s not like all the women in Ukraine are kicking back watching tv eating bonbons while their men die on the front line. Religious freedom is behind circumcision, not women. And, yes, it’s an old, backwards, pointless operation that traditionalists spout out without thinking. It’s also not even clo…
/r/MensRights27/06/22 12:40 PM
-4

No, but men like to think 1 angry teenager with a sign means all women are organising to force them to snip. They’re unable to talk about anything without being the centre of attention, even forced birth laws.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 12:20 PM
-30

What are you defining as “mens reproductive rights”? And how is being threatened with jail for an abortion “states giving women back reproductive rights”? The draft hasn’t existed for how many years? so I’m not sure why you’re bringing that up. And as far as male genital mutilation goes - I reckon that lands legally somewhere within the right to practice religion freely. I’m completely against it, but I’m also a religion - hater. I feel like the people you need to fight with on this matter are t…
/r/MensRights26/06/22 03:37 PM
-62

On the back of forcing women to carry unwanted pregnancies to term? 😂😂😂 you boys have shot yourselves in the foot with that one.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 12:19 PM
3

Dude, if you want to pretend women are defined solely by hypergamy, then at least understand it. Hypergamy doesn’t mean we “feel” entitled… we ARE entitled. The value of our womb outranks your endlessly available teaspoon of jizz beyond measure. The 9 months it takes to create a human and the high risks of childbirth naturally put us on a pedestal far above your momentary contribution to the process. If you believe in hypergamy, then know your rank is below what you think is your equal and be gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 11:01 PM
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