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DebateLonely_Cycle4757/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 07:32 PM
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Weak isn't really the right word... Feminine is more the view. A heterosexual woman who wants a masculine man doesn't want to think about her man getting railed by another man. Now, you can call that homophobic, or you can call it a preference... either way, that's basically the gist of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:29 PM
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Straight men don't climax from that. Even gay ones struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 08:35 PM
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Thanks for proving my point. A straight man wouldn't have to ask that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:03 PM
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Uhm... you clearly aren't a man... at least not a straight one. No... just... no.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:59 PM
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I never said they didn't
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:13 PM
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"So first it is hard even finding men a prospective partner that is goodlooking enough and have the other traits to be suitable to consider." Fixed it for you. This is a universal issue, not one that only affects women. The only difference here between men and women is the toys women have to work with make it a LOT better substitute than the toys they have for men... so men are willing to deal with it. But you'll see the truth of that the second they come out with even remotely lifelike sexbots,…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:23 PM
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Ah, so you're not being serious... got it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:47 PM
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So, your whole plan is to create a big division where everyone who agrees with you cancels everyone who doesn't, which of course would create the reverse effect as well. Man, you're really going outside the box with that one... nobody would have thought of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:02 PM
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I did. That's why I'm on the fence as to whether you are serious or not. Your suggestions are ambiguous in the extreme. How are you going to get everyone to comply? What happens if they don't? And that ignores the fact that, in modern day social circles, being a pariah is not that big of a deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:02 PM
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I mean... that's all great, except for the last part. See, when men DO have standards, it's considered toxic and misogynistic... Of course, women only care about the standards men have when it's men that they are attracted to, which of course, is much like guys do. Weird how everyone works on that same wavelength. So, while it IS true that women, as with everyone, SHOULD be allowed to decide their standards for themselves, it's laughable to suggest that the pushback women get for having standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:04 AM
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LOL I'm on the fence as to whether you are being serious... if you are, I'm dying to hear how you think you're going to implement a system of laws that will force people to hook up with someone they don't want to be with... especially since that would disproportionately affect women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:01 AM
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Well, I think the only reason they have any wheels right now is because the money involved in support isn't big enough, because the technology isn't close enough. Once the technology gets to the level I mentioned, the money will be overwhelming, and the obvious arguments will be getting made on a national scale that will stuff those people fighting against it into a barrel.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:48 PM
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Regardless of whether your breakdown is accurate or not, the overarching premise has wheels. That's kind of the thinking behind the promoting of the development of sex robots. A lot of guys simply prefer the company of other guys outside of the bedroom, regardless of whatever reason you want to attribute to that fact. Once sex bots are capable of functional autonomy and look realistic enough to pass for human without detailed examination, dudes that have no interest in connecting with women on m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:05 AM
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Yeah... never said they did. In fact, you may recall, I specifically said that I DON'T think they believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:58 PM
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I mean... they do. They literally picked the bear. Don't get me wrong... I don't think that MOST women, or even a significant portion of women, think like the woman that he is pointing out... but your counter-example here... there ARE plenty of women who believe that the masses men think like these guys, and they have an irrational fear of men in general as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:11 PM
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Well, I have kids, and I've been married twice, so it is quantifiable that you have no idea what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:24 PM
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Wow... this was nearly verbatim what I was going to write. Well done. Edit: To expand on this point, since the comments show that a lot of you don't get it... The ONLY appraisal that matters in any market is the target demographic. If I have a steakhouse, and every vegan in the world thinks it's the best steakhouse in existence, that means absolutely nothing if the people that actually eat steak don't want to eat at my place. If you are a single hetero guy looking for available hetero women, it …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 04:46 PM
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OR... hear me out... men can just create realistic sex androids and save themselves TONS of time, effort, money, and energy not having to engage in the dating scene at all unless they are hot enough that the dating scene throws itself at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 10:54 AM
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Here's the problems with this narrative: 1.) It's hyperbolic. It's not 10% that get all the girls... it's 20% that attract the attention of 80% of the single girls. This doesn't mean that none of those girls ever move on from fighting for that 20%. In fact, That's usually where the "ready to settle down" crowd of women come from. Still, to your point, that is a big discrepancy. 2.) This only indicates the attitudes of single women. There are tons of married women in relationships with guys who a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:04 PM
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Nope, because it's still a generalization about a subset of men. You are lumping a group of guys together who almost certainly do NOT have the same desires and values about women... but to you, those guys are all the same. Just like when all those guys complain about the subset group of women "who like the bad boys." Exact same energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:30 AM
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Did... doesn't change a single thing I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:38 PM
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"The problem is the guys complaining don't want other types of women." "They would never want the types of women who don't want the criminal bad boys, they would never want women who are consistent about not sleeping around." You're going to tell us all about how men are, just like when these men all talk about how women are. The REAL red-pill is: None of you actually have a CLUE what it is really like to be on the other side. It's just not possible. But you are all undesirable, so you take shot…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:05 PM
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LOL I don't know where you live dude, but it is absolutely NOT bullshit in any of the 13 different cities I've lived in... with the POSSIBLE exception of San Antonio. But any of the other 12 cities... not even close how many more women punch up than guys do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:10 PM
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It's not one thing... it's literally just you sounding in your post exactly like the unattractive guys you are bagging on. If you find that personal, that's on you and you should ask yourself why… I just find it ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:08 PM
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reverse that, and then, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:55 PM
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The irony is that you call that "manosphere types" because it describes like 40% of men, but it also describes 80% of women. Sorry, but the numbers in the singles market don't lie. FAR more women seek to date, not just up, but FAR up, than guys do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:54 PM
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LOL The REAL, REAL redpill... what clearly appears between the lines of your post is: You are NOT one of the attractive girls that guys want, so you are bagging on guys, thereby doing the same thing that unattractive guys do when they bag on women because they are unattractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:50 PM
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You know where this belief came from. A place of insane political partisanship where people on one side are all perfect and the people on the other side are flawed in every conceivable way. No gray area for anyone. Just binary right/wrong. Today's partisan lemmings.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:37 PM
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While I agree that I would rather have a sexually experienced woman than one who has no clue what she is doing, your political tie-in suggests you don't actually have much experience sexually and are basing your feelings on highly erroneous cognitive dissonance not for the purpose of supporting sexually experienced women, but to simply to trash people you disagree with politically. If you want to support such women, their political lean shouldn't matter. If the political lean is what matters to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:32 PM
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Okay... except that in your example, the cop is the one taking the action against someone AND not caring why, which is not the same as being on the receiving end of an action and not caring why, which is what your position is. Men are taking the action of enacting gatekeeping standards. You are a woman on the receiving end of those standards who does not care why they are taking that action. So, you are not the cop here, you are the person receiving the ticket. EX... when a teacher gives YOU a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 05:39 PM
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Oh, and... be hot. Because none of that matters if you are not hot. Most of it isn't even possible if you are not hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:21 PM
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Right... when a cop arrests you, you don't care why, you just care that he did. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:45 PM
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So, basically, you don't care at all WHY men would try to gatekeep standards, you just don't like that they do... Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:43 AM
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I wish this reply could get highlighted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:58 PM
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Your premise isn't necessarily wrong... but your rational is flawed in a number of places. Among the flaws are: 1.) Men (the vast majority) don't request something that is beyond your genetic ability to control. Telling a guy that he needs to be tall then getting upset because he tells you that you shouldn't be fat is ridiculous. 2.) Women's subjective desires can be VERY particular in comparison to men who have much looser subjective desires. While guys don't want a fat woman who acts like a fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:56 PM
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The reality (and answer to your question) is simple. Women have low value to the men that most of them desire, as those men have tons of options, and any given woman is easily replaceable to such men. However, to the masses of men, women are unfairly valued, since a woman who is a 5 that has done basically nothing to make herself more appealing to men will typically ignore a guy who is a 5 or 6 that has put some effort into trying to make himself more appealing to women. The reason why is simple…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 05:36 PM
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Well, the people telling you you're wrong are talking about the "find love" in your thread title. As far as your actual post goes, you made your post purposely vague so that it is hard to actually call you wrong... hence my response in the similar line... 1.) The "vast majority" comment is somewhat vague, leaving you a lot of leeway to suggest what they odds are. 75% could certainly be considered a "vast majority", but that means that your list still does not/may not work for 1 out of every 4 pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:50 AM
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Yep... In related news, most people will find that continuing to breathe helps them find love.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 08:35 PM
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So, here's the thing about "standards". Visual appeal is pretty subjective. Guys will point to dating app data that shows the bell curve of ratings that "prove" that women have clearly more unrealistic standards than men, and, in a vacuum, there is some truth to that... But the reality is: people are absolutely entitled to be attracted to whatever they're attracted to. If you're a 5 who is into 10s (of either sex), you have the right to have that standard. The caveat for me comes on the other en…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 01:16 PM
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GIANT monkey wrench in your theory. If guys could get laid all the time, they would. The only reason they don't is because they (the overwhelming majority of them) can't. Women (the overwhelming majority of them) CAN get laid whenever they want... but they don't. A pretty key piece of evidence that basically flushes your theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 12:30 PM
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I get that. I had to start charting/documenting actions of my ex wife and myself to be able to show her that many of the things that she felt that she did "all the time" were in fact very seldom, and things she would say that I "almost never do" were in fact things that I did more often than things she said she did "all the time". Obviously, the fact that I knew I was keeping track likely affected my activity... but even if my frequency did increase as a result of knowing, she still didn't notic…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 12:20 PM
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Well, if he used to beat women as a kid, then you would be correct... he was dumb... but just watching his dad beat his mom doesn't make him dumb... and if he learned how to manipulate women, which it sounds like he did, that might be unethical, but it's certainly not an indication of lack of intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 09:54 PM
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Doesn't sound like he was all that dumb...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 07:46 PM
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Well, apparently you are better looking than me... good for you that it worked out for you to get better than a 5. I have friends who are better looking than me who are short and broke that also get better than 5s because they are simply better looking than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 03:19 PM
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This is very true in a lot of ways. "Game" is basically defined as "Being able to convince a woman that you are worth paying attention to." Obviously, guys who are naturally hot, or famous, or openly rich, etc. have a major bonus to their "game" But the long and short of it is, if you are great at reading women, AND you understand them well enough to know exactly what will pique their interest at every single moment in every single situation, you have the type of "game" that can/will land you a …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:25 PM
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Which is exactly my point. The amount of time, effort, and energy it takes to "improve yourself" (also known as: becoming less of yourself and more of who other people want you to be) does not boost your standing among women in an equal fashion. Going from a 4 to a 6 is a lot of effort... but all it effectively does for you is make it easier to land 3s and 4s that you could have probably landed before with less effort than it to you to become a 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:10 PM
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Here's the long and short of it: It DOES work in a way, but the ROI is not worth it. I'm tall, built, educated, 6 figures, etc... As a result, I can pull 3s and less all day long. With some effort, I can get a 4. 5 is my ceiling. The amount of time, effort, and energy it took (and still takes) to get a woman who has done little or nothing to make herself more appealing to men is simply not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:48 PM
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Here we go again with the idea that porn creates standards. As someone who grew up long before internet porn was a thing, I can assure you that all men still had standards for attractiveness. Also, a great number of porn actresses are objectively NOT hot. Stop trying to promote this society of desperation where men will be so rabid for sex that they will hook up with anything that has a vagina. It's already close to that anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:44 PM
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It's actually worse than you think... I check pretty much all of those boxes, and sure, I can pull 3s and less at will. With effort, I can land a 4... 5s are (from a lot of experience) pretty much my ceiling. Women who are 6s and higher want even MORE than what you listed there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:40 PM
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It's kind of like the circumstance where a dozen guys could be held at bay by one guy with a double-barrel shotgun. Sure, the action that would make them all better off sounds like a great idea. But nobody wants to be the ones that suffer the consequences for the betterment of everyone else. If a whole generation or 2 of men maintained a very high standard for women, that would help out other generations of men tremendously... but the generations that made that possible would by-and-large go wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:37 PM
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Honestly, the way this is worded (giving circumstantial qualifiers for every point) makes it an extremely valid post.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:33 PM
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I mean, if this were a case where there were a thing that men in general do that keep them from being able to connect with women while still maintaining an emotional and social structure of a typical man, then you would have a point. But the 2 easy responses to this are: 1.) Whatever you are going to say is a "problem with men", in a sense that a significant percentage of men "suffer" from that problem, it is almost certain that there are plenty of guys who are considered hot who possess that as…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 06:03 PM
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Right... so, like I said at the end of my previous post...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 06:14 PM
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I mean, no... just, no. "Better" is completely subjective. And in this sense, the "better" is from the perspective of women, not you, otherwise you would have done it without the need for women to motivate you. Being "better" by someone else's perspective is not a "better you" from YOUR perspective. It's ABSOLUTELY changing who you are comfortable being in order to cater to the opinion of somebody else. I suppose some might try to gaslight themselves into believing this isn't the case so they do…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 03:53 PM
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The irony is that, no dude who is successful with dating ever tells you to "be yourself". What they tell you instead is: "Work on yourself", which, when broken down for examples of what that means (as you can see from a number of examples in this very thread), loosely translates to: "Be more of what women want you to be."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:05 PM
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I mean... you're not wrong. But, residual hook-ups ARE a thing if you struggle on your own and are okay with 2nd or 3rd tier.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 12:04 PM
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1.) There certainly are men who only care about sex... and for a number of different reasons. That issue will be resolved sometime in the near future because the autonomous realistic sex bots will remove these men from the dating pool. Much like they will remove the women who only have sex to offer. Those women will be easy to spot... they will be the ones sounding the alarm about the dangers of allowing men to have sex bots. 2.) One of the biggest reasons that men shouldn't mansplain anything t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 02:00 PM
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You forgot one VERY important word. Relatively* (desireable) If you are a 6, you are not getting any sort of casual sex on the regular from attractive women... but if you go for women who are 2s and 3s, you might have a whole harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 09:33 PM
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LOL... hang out with someone who is REALLY hot. Life hands them a lot more than pie.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 09:20 PM
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The women who think that dating is easier for men don't even acknowledge the existence of men they aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 08:55 PM
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Actually, there are still plenty of guys who will give insane a drive if they are not fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 08:54 PM
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"There will never be a solution to stopping men cold approaching women." Sure there will. When sex androids are able to be autonomous, and they are about 50% more realistic-looking and more affordable, the men who aren't desired by women will never bother with women, and the guys who are desired by women will simply continue to let the women come to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 12:46 PM
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There's nothing in your response to debate or engage with... your initial assertion that you are attracted to men who are "financially responsible" because of the character it shows was just proven to be false because you admitted that you wouldn't be attracted to a man who is objectively financially responsible unless he spent his money on the things you wanted. You can feel free to tap dance all you like to make that seem legit, and I'm sure you've long convinced yourself that it's different..…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:20 PM
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Cool, then by the standards I mentioned in my response, you are no prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:15 PM
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I'm not "pretending anything is not true"...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:13 PM
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Nope... I was simply talking about the difference between what people mean when they say they want someone who is financially responsible. You put up a wall of text to explain why your version of financially responsible makes you different that a gold digger... I don't care what your rationale is. Occam's Razor is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:02 PM
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Well I guess we have our answer about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:20 PM
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You make a valid point about being attracted to someone who is financially responsible... The fine line is: If a guy had a bunch of money, but was fully focused on retirement and had a modest house that you weren't fond of, drove modest cars that you weren't fond of, wore modest clothes that you weren't fond of, and didn't spend significant amounts of money on clothes, jewelry, fine-dining, and similar things for you, would you still be attracted to that guy who is "financially responsible" or d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:58 PM
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LOL... you are short changing it. Women (or men) offering sex, or withholding sex, in lieu of having their man perform a specific action or behavior. Going to a specific place/event, doing certain chores, performing certain actions... I don't know how many of you have had experiences with such aspects in relationships, but these absolutely exist. Basically, having sex for the purpose of reproduction or the gratification of sexual desire are the only genuine reasons to have sex. If you are having…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:50 PM
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Nope... I actually try my best to ignore such women... and yet they are still in abundance. Thanks for playing though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 12:43 PM
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That may be true, I'm not a woman so I really don't have honest insight into that claim... what I CAN say is that: regardless of whether or not that statement is true, there seems to be a very notable percentage of such women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 11:28 AM
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Of course... but, as everyone knows, the difference between confidence and asshole is subjective and sometimes nebulous... and frequently boils down to: Is the guy hot or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 12:09 PM
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"A Lot of people aren't attractive nor rich enough for the attitude they have." That's because tons of people are out there telling them "It's all about confidence!" Not bothering to note that if you are unattractive, being "confident" just gets you laughed at. Queue the seemingly countless unattractive guys who you never seem to meet in real life who will say "I'm not attractive, but I get hot women all the time... you just have to be confident!"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 12:42 PM
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Lol! That right there is an epic deflection
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:51 PM
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Lol... you are proving my point in so many different ways right now... Your attempts to deflect by being overly-dramatic are very transparent... And weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 09:57 PM
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Wrong... a lot of us did it for Swoopes back when she was being bullied for saying that she chose to be gay... sounds like you only pay attention when the girl beind defended is white... as I said... projection
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 09:07 PM
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That sounds like projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 08:43 PM
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"As someone who lives in an UMC bubble..." You certainly do... your belief that any significant amount of lower class men believe that higher class men are their allies leaves me thunderstruck that somebody could be so far removed from reality. Wow... That take is SO off the mark I almost believed it's just somebody trolling. Then I read the rest of the post. It turns out that it is just an extremely poorly worded way of telling men who vote red that they are dumb. People on the left are suppose…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 08:41 PM
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LOL... no. Absolutely none of the guys with no standards pretend like they are a stud of any sort. They actually kind of revel in the fact that they are gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 08:28 PM
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As others have said, it's not as simple as just walking in and getting laid... But there is more to it than even that. The same level of attractiveness standards that exist in the street still exists in these clubs. Even if you are capable of getting yourself into one, you are not going to get yourself a reasonably attractive woman if you are not at least a notably attractive guy. Yes, there are a number of women who are not very discerning, but those are women that most guys would not find sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 02:27 PM
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Can't say for certain, because that's not my thing... but I suspect that they don't want to commit, but they still want to get laid, so they accept anything. This quote from that individual might help you understand. "Once I've been inside of a woman, I have no interest in going there again."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 08:10 PM
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I mean, true, I don't have any definitive proof of my assumption... but your comment to that person would seem very oddly worded if my assumption were not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 07:27 PM
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I mean, if they were hiding their excursions and then bragging about it later, that might hold water... but the fact that we all know what these girls look like says that's clearly not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:28 PM
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Uhm... no... I simply responded to your question of: "Are women abusing you out in public." No more, no less.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:18 PM
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My response to you was a response to YOU and what YOU said... I think you either have me mixed up with another poster, or you are trying to read something into my response that isn't there. My response to you is very cut-and-dried. Nothing between the lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:50 PM
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Yeah, but that's not the point... the point is that there are a lot of guys who have casual sex because they just want sex, not because they are trying to feed their ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:48 PM
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I was responding to the OP, which does not say any of that... At least, it was my intention to respond to the op... if I did not, it was accidental.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:46 PM
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Various versions of "Eww! Get away from me creep!" Now, in a vacuum, that's just words... but in a public setting with plenty of people able to hear the exchange, that's a hard one to take to the chin. Also, the second part has had varied wording, but the "Eww!" happens more than you would think...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:39 PM
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Couldn't agree more... which is why I never said any such thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:36 PM
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Your sample size of men who can have casual sex must be VERY limited. While it is true that there are "trophy hunters" out there (and not just men), there are also a great number of men who have casual sex that will have it with whatever they can get. In just my close circle of friends and family, there is 1 trophy hunter, 1 "a hole is a hole" guy (who gets laid consistently, but never gets anything better than a 4), and 2 guys who are clearly in it just to get laid, since the running joke about…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:01 PM
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I mean... "abuse" is a strong word, but I've absolutely been socially stomped on by women when I've gone up to talk to them. Also weird that you bring the incel thing up, since you clearly understand that it's not incels that this happens to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:55 PM
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Well, first: Being socially awkward is absolutely not a mental health issue, so your premise is already a dumpster fire. Second: If we WERE to entertain your premise, you forgot the part where being socially awkward only gets you ostracized if you aren't hot. Hot guys can hem and haw all they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:51 PM
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I'm curious as to whether this encounter will have any impact on your view of red-pilled people, which you CLEARLY thought were incapable of based thought before.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 12:47 PM
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You're using this as a cope. Regardless of how their thought processes get there, a natural arc for attractiveness would be a relatively steady bell curve that was highest in the middle and lowest on both ends... which is how guys rate women in the studies. Women have a completely unnatural curve that basically says that if you aren't hot, you're garbage. That's not realistic in terms of natural occurrence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 09:08 PM
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I could... but 1.) I don't belong to any of the sites that posted them originally, 2.)I don't recall the news sites where I saw the information posted when I read them, and, 3.)most importantly, it is ABSOLUTELY NOT worth my time to dig that stuff up to try to prove anything to you... in the end, I'm basically having this discussion to kill time until I can go do something I'd much rather be doing... I absolutely do not care if a rando like you on some message board disagrees with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 04:11 PM
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Exactly... there IS no specific solution... which means that whatever worked for you is not necessarily going to work for all these other guys... which means that you have no capacity to decide for them what their ability to get laid is. As a guy, you MUST know the strength of the biological pull for a male to have sex... it seems odd to nit-pick the difference between haven't and can't when the reality is that men who can almost certainly will. You seem to have an extraordinary confidence in so…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 04:07 PM
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Well, in my part of the world, "every" indicates a plural, and "plural" means "more than one", sooo....
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 04:00 PM
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No... the premise of "she likes it" is not accurate at all, and very telling to your perspective on the matter. Very few people LIKE their job... but they do it because they want the money... which, as you might recall by going back and reading my post, is the reason I gave... I never said anything about them "liking it".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:41 PM
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Nope... just about every survey shows roughly the same numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:39 PM
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LOL, no... bait is considered bait... and your effort to respond to THIS simple post is very telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:29 PM
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"There's just not enough attractive males to go around," LOL at the irony! When they do the surveys, the men rate women on a curve that tracks with what a natural curve would look like, whereas women view men on a curve that is entirely irregular and unnatural. Combined with the statistical facts that show that women are, on average, more likely to be obese than men, the clear reality is that women THINK they are more attractive than they are, and believe that they deserve a man of equal attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:23 PM
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That's what the latest survey says... You're welcome to talk to all those guys going without and tell them how they "just have to do X" and they can get laid... you could make millions if you actually know what X is...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:11 PM
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Cool... so if it's absolutely NOT a slave and it's a woman who WANTS to make the money, it's okay then? Or are we just using a disingenuous angle to cover the whole thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:07 PM
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It's actually close to 30% of the young male population. You clearly run in different circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:03 PM
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LOL... Not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:01 PM
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I wouldn't say "it shocks me", because I'm a man, and I know how powerful the biological urges are to men. However, I have personally never been able to get up any sexual mojo for that type of sex (lord knows I've tried). Any time I've ever tried to have sex with a woman who I knew was not sexually interested in me, my body would not respond for it. And to be clear, I have no problem with a woman being a sex worker at all. I've dated strippers (who I met outside of their professional life) and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:00 PM
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That's not about "being online". Plenty of people were where you were before "online" was even a thing. I'm glad you could get over your fear of rejection based on your worry that you might fail at something to start asking women out... however, one word of awareness so that you don't get taken off-guard... "rejection" takes many forms, and not all of them are equal. There are responses FAR worse than "no". Be ready for those, because they hit hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 03:53 PM
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I didn't say it was. In fact I go on later to say that if you are an amazing person, that shouldn't matter. You may be confusing me listing "the two things I can tell you" as me saying "there are two problems"... but that's not what I am saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 09:21 PM
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I wasn't speaking of any "pill",... just of general ideologies that anyone may possess
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:09 PM
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I suppose to a degree that could be true... but it would have to be quite the extreme of a lamentable life, as an amazing person would almost certainly be a glass-is-half-full type, and always appreciate the positives in their life
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:07 PM
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Being an amazing person has no "purpose" if you are truly an amazing person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:04 PM
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Welllll... I've been around for quite a few decades... more than several, to the point where it is basically impossible to continue to include being physically amazing among my defining points... and I don't like to mislead people... Being an amazing person will not guarantee you a great partner OR a great job, EVER. It will certainly help your ODDS of getting one or both those things... but it absolutely does NOT guarantee one right away OR in the long term... it is ABSOLUTELY possible to be an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 09:01 PM
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Women aren't a monolith any more than men are. Women's junk is just as varied in size (depth) as men's junk (length), so some women prefer bigger junk, and some women literally can't take big junk. Like guys and boobs. I know a number of guys basically worship large breasts, but I literally do not care how big a woman's breast's are. Most of the women I have been with were A cups, and I've never had larger than a C cup woman. Never mattered to me in the slightest. But I see a bunch of women on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 06:19 PM
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Misunderstanding... when I said 95+% of men in the gym, I mean 95+% of ALL men if we were to compete in the gym. I'm talking more of an athletic muscular build like you would see on a strong safety in the NFL. 6'2, 220, with visible abs. I still represent pretty well among a random population of guys who would be in a gym normally, but I probably wouldn't be larger than 19 out of 20 of them. I'm not one of those gorillas who look like they either compete or are aspiring to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 06:06 PM
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As someone who has been of a physique that would wreck 95+% of men in the gym, this "trait" isn't as powerful as you are insinuating it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 04:54 PM
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As someone who has gone to the length of seeing what "being an amazing person" gets me, I can say two things: 1: Being an "amazing person" absolutely does NOT promise you a person of equal quality from the other side. 2: If you are TRULY being an amazing person, you will understand that people are not vending machines that owe you any level of interest based on the amount of social currency that you put towards them. Also, if you truly became amazing, you would not be doing it with the expectati…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 04:50 PM
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LOL... some of what you said there was valid... oddly enough, one of the things you dismissed as invalid WAS actually valid: "That's not "desire", unless you want to call getting mugged "someone really desired my money!"" I mean... YEAH... that's 100% true that the person who mugged you really desired your money, lol. I get what you were TRYING to say there, but that was a really bad way to put it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 05:27 PM
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"As for the dating market, every man who has already lost his V card with no marriage shouldn't be able to have relationships." LOL "Easily fixed" you say? I never thought of imminent revolution as an "easy fix" but I suppose if you don't consider the collateral damage, loss of life, and tremendous social upheaval to be an issue, then you might be on to something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 02:52 PM
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They would have to care what you think about them to be shamed by you... Newsflash... they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 11:19 AM
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Meh... give it 10 to 15 years. By the time the next generation is old enough to date, will have viable android partners, and nobody will need to settle for sex. You'll be able to establish superior relationships if you choose because the sex aspect won't be predominant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 11:16 AM
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Oof... I have bad news for you my friend... those guys who "treat you better" are only doing so in order to be able to stay close to you to try to get to your girl. While having a beautiful woman is certainly a nice thing to have, if she has no interest in you sexually, that's a HUGE trade off for her beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 07:30 PM
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And even then, you STILL have to be reasonably attractive to score with a woman of your level. I was a 6/6/6 guy for many years, who was exceptionally built from many years of intense athletic participation and the work in the gym that went hand-in-hand with that. I don't have any birth defects or horrible accidents that mar my appearance, but I'm simply a very average looking guy facially... and while I could attract girls who were 3s and 4s all day long, to attract any woman who was even of av…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 05:51 PM
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Logically speaking, your point makes no sense. I was around long enough before internet porn to be perfectly aware of the fact that people have ALWAYS had standards which indicated a clear hierarchy of beauty in their minds. A decent education will have you reading classic works of literature where people who existed long before any sort of electronic media still had standards of beauty. So, logically speaking, people understood that concept of superior attractiveness long before modern media, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 05:44 PM
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LOL That was a WHOLE LOT of projection in response to something I never said... Clearly, this was something you've been wanting to say and thought this would be as good as anyplace to say it. What you SHOULD have done is made it a completely separate post, where it would have had some validity... because as a response to MY post, it has none, since I never said anything remotely counter to what you are asserting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 12:00 PM
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You're trying to cope to create a narrative that is demonstrably untrue. To be fair, you are correct in that your developmental years DO shape your taste in women, as my tastes came from the girls around me when I was in my developmental years, but to suggest that porn is responsible for you having "unrealistic expectations" of women is ludicrous, since there is tons of porn out there with objectively mid women in it, and even without porn when I grew up, I was STILL able to understand that obje…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 11:55 AM
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Really? You need examples of what constitutes a bad personality? Being overtly condescending, selfish, or hypocritical are some quick and easy examples... it's kind of telling that you needed that explained to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 08:41 PM
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I agree as well... it's just funny to see it laid out so bluntly contrary to the op.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 08:39 PM
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I see how I wrote that poorly... I could tell you were simply sharing a viewpoint and not trying to force a lifestyle (you weren't saying "too bad")... my use of the words "you" and "your" in that capacity were generalizations for people who WOULD say "too bad" to such people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 06:13 PM
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LOL the entire point of the anti-porn thread we are on is that men's standards are too high because of porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 06:07 PM
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Well that's mostly because those are negative-point attributes that guys don't really think should have to be said. Many women feel that men should be okay with fat women, and they aren't... there aren't any women out there saying that men should be happy with a woman whose personality and character are a "see you next Tuesday." But yeah, it applies there too... you don't have to have an amazing personality or character... just don't have a terrible one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 06:04 PM
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The problems with that ideology is that you are suggesting that 1.) people who are ONLY social in order to get laid are people that are missed by society (they aren't)... and 2.)the amount of "friction" it takes to "get your rocks off" with other people is extremely different between different people. Some people don't have real options outside of porn, and telling these people "too bad" because you think they should have to struggle terribly to satisfy YOUR perspective of how they should live T…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 05:57 PM
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"porn instills unrealistic expectations." Every time I hear this I think 2 things: 1.) My standards on what is hot has never changed between the time of my life that I had no access to porn and the time that I did, Nor did the standards of a single male friend or relative that I grew up with. 2.) What I hear when somebody says that porn gives men unrealistic standards of women: "You'll take what you're given you and you'll like it!" This is CLEARLY a social cope to try to get men to be happy wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 05:37 PM
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LOL! And THAT reply tells you everything that is problematic for women in the dating scene. Yes, there are absolutely men who love the "conquering" part of the dating scene. They are the minority of men BY FAR. The reason you THINK that this is all men, is because so many women like yourself are only attracted to this type of man, which is also the reason that you think that "plenty of guys admit this", because those are the only type of guys you TALK to. These are the guys that have no interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 12:51 PM
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That issue DEFINITELY goes both ways. 😂🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 12:43 PM
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LOL weird, because I was thinking exactly the same about you. It's common knowledge that pretty much any given woman can easily get any available guy in her league, where the same cannot be said for men. Literally nobody thinks it's harder for women to be attractive to a man than vice-versa EXCEPT for women who are mid trying to hook up with top level guys. And this site is the closest thing I do to ANY social media, so if that puts me in some sort of internet "rabbit hole that's divorced from r…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 12:24 PM
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Overall: 22.2% of adolescents aged 12-19 had obesity, according to the CDC. Gender Differences: Obesity prevalence was 23.0% for girls and 21.4% for boys. Sorry, but I'm gonna have to bust you again. To be fair, these are US statistics, whereas you might be counting world stats, which I'm not talking about because different cultures have vastly different aspects to this stuff, and if we are going to talk about ALL cultures, then the conversation will be drastically different given the number of …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 09:19 PM
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The biggest reason this is true, is because the only guys most of these women approach are the guys who have plenty of options and don't have to approach women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 08:44 PM
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Because it has been proven that the odds of a girl getting turned down are a fraction of what they are for a guy. It's like 50-1 for a guy, it's like 8-1 for a girl... A small fraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 08:42 PM
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Cool... but that goes both ways. Based on "eye tracking" even in younger crowds where pregnancies have little impact, girls are more likely to be obese than boys, and CDC data backs that up as well. Again... been married, I absolutely know what is important in my observations of beauty, and maybe you could keep from womansplaining to a heterosexual man how heterosexual men view women, especially while telling me how women don't REALLY want tall guys when I bring up that point. And you clearly do…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 08:36 PM
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Cool... Except the VAST number of women out there don't do the most difficult and important thing on that list: be gym hot... but they still want it from guys... show me that you are actually in shape and I'll give you that argument. Otherwise: According to NIH, the number of women who are severely obese is one and half times as much as men. Real fitness, where you don't just meet a standard of biological health, but you actually LOOK good, is FAR more difficult to achieve than everything else y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 07:19 PM
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It makes far more sense that way for a number of reasons... Ironically, the only reason most women don't want to is because they don't want to take the small fraction of the same risk of rejection that men have to take when they approach women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 06:57 PM
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Except that in the man's case, the only option to not be in the desert rests on your genetic luck... In the woman's case, they generally choose to search for clean water in a swamp.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 06:55 PM
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In other shocking news: The sun is hot, and water is wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 06:53 PM
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Yes... they are called simps
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:05 PM
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Yeah... I took stats, and I understand how that works. What YOU don't understand is that your "clarification" makes zero difference to my op. Being a "consolation prize" to a woman who couldn't land a chad is not exactly something guys are looking for. You are clearly educated to some degree, so you likely have some level of exposure to logic and critical thinking. Reread my op, then try to play devil's advocate to yourself as to what you can honestly say in your response changes anything about …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 08:18 PM
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ANY group of people who feel that they should get to decide for everyone who is "good" and who is "bad" is already sus.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:14 PM
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These stats don't consider married women (unless those women are on dating apps)... they are talking about what the collective (probably/hopefully) single women on dating apps respond to. What they have found in the research is that 80% of the women on dating apps pursue the same 20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:11 PM
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It's simple... men have realized that the top 80% of women are only into the top 20% of men. And a guy who is a 6 has no interest in going out and approaching a woman who is a 3, but that's all he's likely to get. The guys who are 8s, 9s, and 10s don't HAVE to approach women, because women will actually approach them. Many of these women will willingly get on the "side piece" list of these guys, rather than try to be a main for a guy who isn't this high on the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 03:05 PM
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Man, that's awful... but at least they didn't expect you to pay for yourself on a date, I guess...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 11:35 AM
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I wouldn't argue that. Those men are certainly out there as well. It really comes down to the experiences of any given person on which types they meet more of.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:50 AM
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I guess I can concede that point. I know quite a few Chads that fall in the latter category you mentioned, and they do tend to score more with younger women. That's why I mentioned the cognitive dissonance part. However, I suspect that goes both ways here. While my experience has me seeing many of these men one way (as misogynistic DBs), your experience has you seeing them in the other (Casanovas)... I suspect the reality is somewhere in the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:49 AM
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LOL, so, all of the "bad boys" you encounter were all actually gentlemen? Sounds like a bunch of posers who knew how to get women like you interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:03 PM
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As I mentioned in my above comment, this is the key issue. Yeah, you can work very hard to get yourself into remarkable shape, and that WILL make it pretty easy to get women that do absolutely nothing to improve themselves... but it doesn't promise you any woman who actually takes care of herself anywhere close to the level you do... and who wants to put in tons of effort when the payout is so unfair?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:01 PM
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The problem is, that it doesn't promise you a quality woman. Speaking from experience you would never believe unless you actually saw me, sure, you can put all that work in to get 4s and 5s all day long (women who do absolutely nothing to work on their own appeal). But it absolutely does not get you a woman who puts the effort into herself that you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:58 PM
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"Doesn't this run contrary to the commonly held view on this sub that very sexually experienced men (aka Chads) are bigger misogynists than sexually inexperienced men?" I guess it would depend on what you consider more misogynistic. In my experience (obviously subject to cognitive dissonance) Men who go without sex grow spiteful and hateful and have very negative views towards women because of that... but men who can get women easily (Chads) don't have hateful or negative views towards women, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:53 PM
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I realized after reading it again, that it could still be taken ambiguously even with the comment about posts, so I clarified it with an edit just for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:41 PM
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"I see a LOT of posts on here that project the idea that shaming people..." Opening line of my OP... Where do YOU think I saw these posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:02 PM
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Wrong. I did read it. The problem is that you don't understand the point being made in THIS conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:59 PM
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That's what's unclear to you. That's not my point. There is nothing in that article that refutes anything I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 08:16 PM
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You don't understand modern communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:32 PM
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Right... tell us who exactly the "crazies" are that need to be "curbed" using this method. If your list are people like serial criminals, spree criminals, or some other universally altruistic answer that every sane person would agree with, then your efforts to "curb" these people in this manner are useless, since these clearly still exist despite universal distain for them. The REALITY is that MOST people's idea of who is "eroding the social fabric" and who need "social repercussions" for their …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 05:09 PM
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LOL I get it, and that was a good response... However, I never said it was easy... just that it's in your wheelhouse to do so, which makes it the best answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 02:34 PM
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"shaming has been working from way back when, is working now, and will work long in the future unless we drastically change how society, as we know it today, works." Yeah... you're living in the past. Shaming DID work "way back when" because it was very easy to meet all 3 of those criteria points back then... but the "future" of shaming is "now"... and if you think you are meeting those criteria points over the internet to people who don't know you and couldn't care less about what you think, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 02:30 PM
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To be clear, it is POSSIBLE for shaming to work on SOME people. The point is that it has to meet those 3 factors... and if you're some random internet person trying to do it over an internet message board, you have to have a pretty colossal ego to think you are going to meet those 3 factors to any significant number of people you see online.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 02:24 PM
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Correction... you SHOULDN'T gaslight yourself to not care. You should simply stop caring. It's not something you can control, and anyone who holds you accountable for that are the ones who have the problem. I'm not going to pretend it doesn't limit your options, but almost everyone is born with things that limit their options. There's nothing to be gained by being ashamed of those things. You simply have to focus on the things you can control.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:38 AM
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I never said that shaming never works. I said it requires those 3 things. If you HAVE all 3 of those things in your corner, shame away... the problem is that it is extraordinarily difficult to have all 3 of those things if you are some random person on an internet message board, and thinking that you have all 3 of those things in such a case is more likely an ego-driven delusion than reality. The second example you used is a curious one though. The fat one was mentioned by others, so that's obvi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:09 AM
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All true, but that is why number 3 is such a big deal. If you don't care what someone thinks, then nothing they have to say matters to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:01 AM
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In addition to everything Junior_Ad_3086 said... Conforming to an unknown criteria (like the elevator experiment) is not the same as feeling shamed over something quantifiable (like everyone you met, including most people who ARE SHORTER THAN YOU trying to call you short. That's like comparing apples to snails. I put the high-school thing in for a reason. Teenagers DO absolutely cave to peer pressure because that's the life they live. But once you are an adult, and you have a better understandin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:59 AM
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Yeah, I get all of that... my point is, the people who think they have the power to shame from internet message boards are egomaniacs... because of the things I listed, and particularly number 3. Also, like everything else that dictates how people "should" think, those same egomaniacs believe that THEY should get to decide what people "should or shouldn't be ashamed of".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:46 AM
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"I ain't sayin she a gold-digga..."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:42 AM
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I'm not positive exactly where you're going with that point, but I'll say this, and if it doesn't fit what you were saying, then just disregard: Anyone who feels that social engineering SHOULD be used to steer society towards what THEY feel society SHOULD be is an egomaniac and needs to have their views completely disregarded. Diversity of thought is one of the very few redeeming aspects of the human race. It's telling when somebody wants to remove that aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:40 AM
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Exactly, and it doesn't work unless the listed criteria is met.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:35 AM
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So, again... they have to share your perspective of what is "outlandish and vile" for that premise to hold water.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 08:47 PM
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I agree, but I don't think that most people who are into shaming care, so I didn't extrapolate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 08:45 PM
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Like others have said... This is more about what your options are than anything that will actually fulfill your needs. Doing something IS always better that doing nothing. Even if that something isn't likely to accomplish anything, If you're an average guy that doesn't have any social circles that present opportunities to connect to desirable women, then cold approach is the ONLY option you have. No desirable women are going to approach you, ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 07:39 PM
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Except that wasn't my point in saying that she proved my point... Thanks for coming out though!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:43 PM
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Right? The core problem here is that the dude who follows this advice CAN get a number of women who do absolutely nothing to make themselves desirable, but not a lot of women who actually work on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:37 PM
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In other news: Water is wet, and the sun is bright. Women don't have to pursue guys, so they don't, because rejection sucks. If you are assertive, you at least have a chance with a woman, even if it is extremely small. If you never come on to a woman, they are never going to come on to you. It's like saying that drinking hot-dog water is better than dying of thirst. The first option is clearly not a desirable one, but it is obviously better than the second.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:35 PM
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"Making someone feel at ease by being confident, reading her body language and adjusting based on it, etc, will also influence your success rate." This is actually huge. It is more commonly know as "having game". If having game were as easy as just knowing what you said, no guys would go without... The problem is that being able to make accurate reads on the fly and then make accurate split second adjustments is like being able to run a 4.4 second 40-yard dash. Some men just have it. Some men ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:27 PM
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Physical attraction is a thing, regardless of how much some people like to pretend it's not. Granted, it's not the same LEVEL of thing to everyone, but it is still a thing. My saying is: If you want a queen, you have to be a king, and vice versa. If you are a legitimate 9 or 10, then it is not unrealistic to want to hook up with someone who is a 9 or 10. The problem comes when you have quite a few people who THINK they are 9s and 10s, but are clearly not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:13 PM
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It's interesting that a post with such an egregiously faulty premise still has over 271 comments, and MOST of them aren't some version of: "Very few men believe believe that women become ugly between 25-and 30... the premise here is invalid."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:56 PM
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Like so many other things that get argued about in our society, the key to this question is: Who gets to decide what qualifies as soft core? Much of the anime that is considered soft core has women exposing underwear frequently. Underwear doesn't expose anything more than a bikini swimming suit does, so do we now have to ban Baywatch? This is the slippery slope that any type of ban faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:52 PM
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Quite a bit of hyperbole in that post... but everything is cyclical. If you are worried that technology gives women the upper hand now, just wait until Androids can be made to the level they are in shows like Westworld.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:48 PM
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Cool! Again. Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:40 PM
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And thank you so much for proving my point, LOL!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:38 PM
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LOL You have it wrong. Most men want to know what it will take to get a woman on their level. The problem with that is that women who are on their level will act like that man has to improve a couple levels to be on her level, and THEN, he is able to COMPETE for her attention. Women obviously love this because it is far to their advantage. The pool of men putting up with it is shrinking. The pendulum is not going to swing in that direction much longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:56 PM
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This is 2025, not 1990? Yeah, this has been a thing for like 35 years now. It's not some new revelation. In fact, it has been a thing for so long, that a lot of women who could have really benefitted from it have taken it too far and made themselves terribly undesirable so that the men who might have wanted to try to "work on themselves" to get a decent woman are no longer willing to since most women aren't willing to date in their wheelhouse, and a dude who is a 5 is not gonna work his butt off…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:50 PM
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Yeah... but other that the fitness level of your body, you don't get to decide if the other sex finds you attractive (in general), so, once that has been established for you, any rationally thinking person does not dwell on whether the opposite sex finds them attractive or not. It would be like a grown adult focusing on their height. Sure, many would probably like to be taller, but they know it's not possible so they just move along with things they can control.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:33 PM
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If you are a basic unevolved human that relies on animal instinct over rationality, then sure. Humans were given an ability to reason that far exceeds that of the rest of the animal kingdom... there is no need for us to be as basic as they are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:29 PM
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That's a REALLY grey area. Here's the rub. If we are to give in to our base instincts as to what makes us "human", then there are a whole lotta laws that need to go (you would know which ones I'm talking about if you know anything about the evolution of humans). But the fact that humans have the mental capacity to be "better" has made it so that many practices which were "innate/instinctive" to humans were made illegal so that human society can "improve" from the animal society we originated fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:25 PM
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"Most men" develop this ideology when they are teens and their hormones make it near impossible to control their desire to hook up with women. Luckily, as most men grow older, the ones who are able to shed their high-school mentality grow out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:18 PM
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