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1

She likes the attention and validation, doesn't see him as a sexual candidate like the others she slept with but who put less effort in.
/r/seduction18/07/26 08:48 PM
-4

Based on what I'm reading it just seems she doesn't rate you like that. Seems like you are a source of emotional validation to her rather than a sexual option. Maybe I'm wrong but 3 dates without anything sexual is crazy to me. Even if a woman is scared about acting hoe-ish, she would match your energy if she really sexually desires you.
/r/seduction18/07/26 06:47 PM
2

I don't want to sound too nitpicky because you did a good job approaching in the first place. My advice would be, if one girl in a group is giving you IOI but you are being waved off by other, is to ignore the gatekeeper and just focus on the one giving you attention. There could have been a number exchange or something more.
/r/seduction18/06/26 05:06 PM
5

The bad girls lead with their body because that's all they have to offer of value
/r/seduction25/05/26 10:38 AM
16

I agree with that, attention spans are too short. I wouldn't wait longer than the same day tbh.
/r/seduction12/05/26 06:01 PM
0

While I would agree with your conclusion, the truth being told is the vast majority of women have diminishing returns the more you hang out with them. Just out of curiosity, how many out of the 88 would you want to see outside of the sex?
/r/seduction18/04/26 06:43 PM
2

TLDR: Treat her like a child.
/r/seduction03/04/26 02:02 AM
-1

I don't disagree with you but that's why you are supposed to vet for these traits in the beginning. Only go for girls who don't have a mean or vindictive streak in them. Playing with fire just gets you burnt.
/r/seduction24/03/26 08:48 PM
8

I'm going to differ from the other comments on here. Sell the dream. Agree with their statements about wanting something serious but also continue to see other women. My reason? Women lie so much, they lie to men and they lie to themselves. Integrity isn't part of their natural makeup. The only thing that matters is what you want. So if you want to continue to keep seeing her, just tell her what she wants to hear.
/r/seduction24/03/26 11:31 AM
1

If one person is constantly being "considerate" by deferring to the other, it creates a dynamic where one person's needs and wants always come first. People will naturally abuse this position, given enough time. I really wish it wasn't true but it is.
/r/seduction13/03/26 02:49 AM
54

That you will be rewarded when you are considerate. I had to learn that being selfish and assertive gets you action on a consistent basis, and stops your time being wasted.
/r/seduction12/03/26 03:26 AM
2

Definitely dehumanising. Even the women that swear up and down that they aren't stereotyping, you find out that they only slept with the stereotype :/
/r/seduction19/02/26 06:20 PM
1

This is great advice that should work for most, I'm kinda concerned that it might become a topic of some man-hating subreddits :/ Keep in mind that OPs ratio works because the women he matches with, probably find him very attractive. For the average user (me), it'll be a 50:50 for straight to crib vs date first.
/r/seduction17/02/26 05:41 AM
3

Time to shine, pick up numbers and makeouts at the very least. Spray that cologne!
/r/seduction15/02/26 12:02 AM
1

This is not a bad thing? You want women to be comfortable around you. Just shift the topics to a sexual manner, employ soft physical contact and gage her reactions. Escalate if she doesn't react negatively.
/r/seduction13/02/26 02:10 PM
1

True. Give them space to yearn for you, and have them understand (non-verbally) you don't need them in your life. It attracts or at least intrigues them.
/r/seduction29/01/26 08:35 PM
1

Who is "we"? I'll only invest time into women who are sleeping with me consistently, physically attractive, emotionally stable, and isn't too needy.
/r/seduction29/01/26 07:24 PM
7

Sorry based upon what you have typed, we will need to review your dating profile and examples of initial messages in order to determine where you are going wrong. You will need to quickly establish that you sexually desire them, whether conveyed through pics or text, even before the date.
/r/seduction21/01/26 07:51 PM
2

100% The right woman for you, doesn't try to violate your boundaries. Just make shit clear during the very first meetup what you won't put up with.
/r/seduction11/12/25 03:43 PM
1

"You seem interesting so I came over here to say hi, what's your name?"
/r/seduction09/11/25 06:53 PM
2

You got downvoted but you are right. She's most likely not going to take the switch to sexuality well. Either way OP you need to escalate this next meetup to find out for sure.
/r/seduction06/11/25 03:20 PM
8

100% agreed, as someone who tried this over the course of a few months - went from 4 women to 1 - it's not worth the effort. If you are going to attempt having a rotation - then be quick to drop women who argue, are rude or disrespectful, or attempt to demand greater commitment.
/r/seduction05/11/25 04:46 PM
1

Ah okay fair enough. Based on my experience from earlier this year, it's just best to tell them from the beginning that you are dating around and therefore not exclusive. Especially once sex is involved, women will tend to accuse you of "leading them on" even if you never faked exclusivity. You shouldn't have to change who you are in order to keep women around. They are adults too, let them decide if they want to stay on your roster, or leave. Your only responsibility is to make sure you are han…
/r/seduction30/09/25 12:39 AM
2

Without sounding rude to you - if girl #2 is trying to force a commitment out of you after only a few weeks, it points towards you not being honest with her about your dating situation. You need to clearly communicate to girl #2 that you don't want to rush exclusivity - if she's not down for that, then you need to let her go. The right woman for you will stick around, not rattled by other prospects.
/r/seduction29/09/25 10:31 PM
4

I'll tell you what... we were very similar in that regard. Very good at initiating and maintaining platonic relationships with women but struggling sexually. Something I needed to realise was the following: 1) Women want to be sexualised BY THE MEN THEY ARE ALREADY ATTRACTED TO. 2) Women also put men into "boxes": potential/existing sexual partner, free lunch, and a blend of both - the husband If you solve (1) you don't have to worry about (2) as you will be eventually be getting sexual interest…
/r/seduction12/08/25 08:13 PM
3

You just like me fr. Same shit I had to discover!
/r/seduction05/06/25 05:49 PM
3

Well you don't have to use that line, it was just an example. I like to think of men as shepards and women as sheep, shepards need to lead the sheep to greener pastures. A green pasture in this case is a fun time with a man who can pleasure her sexually, that could be you if you play your cards right! Your locations seem fine, do you try to break the touch barrier with them on dates? You would be surprised what something as simple as holding their hand or putting your hand on their thigh does to…
/r/seduction11/05/25 05:49 PM
9

First you need to consider where you are meeting these women, is it in an environment were they look relaxed and happy? Eg. At the park, by the water or at the mall? Then I think you should state your intentions openly ("I want to take you out on a date") and make sure you sexualize her ("Your lips are distracting me") as soon as possible from the beginning of the approach. Helps you weed out the platonic friendship women or not interested women quickly. After that it's about increasing your vol…
/r/seduction11/05/25 04:39 PM
5

To be honest a lot of the people asking questions just don't want to be rejected. I know it sucks... but you don't feel the pain after a while. I've been completely embarrassed, disrespected and made to feel like a creep, however the joy you feel when you reach the dating or sexual stage completely masks over the bad times. Just go out and approach, make the effort and eventually you will be rewarded.
/r/seduction06/05/25 07:37 PM
1

Not targeted at you but why do so many people need their hand held when it comes to these things? People need to accept that there is no method that'll give you an 100% success rate. Just go out there and learn from your failures.
/r/seduction29/04/25 01:41 PM
42

^ OP please read this comment above and let in register in your brain. ^
/r/seduction26/04/25 03:38 PM
13

By initiating the approach, I'm doing her a favour with the opportunity to get to know me.
/r/seduction27/03/25 03:38 PM
3

Well you see this is what the most upvoted comment is talking about: avoiding outcome dependence. I will reiterate, your job is just to evaluate if and where she will fit into your life. You can't force a woman to sleep with you, and these days I wouldn't attempt to trick a woman either (allegations ruin reputations). That sexual attraction comes from her almost instantly, slowly builds over time, or sometimes both. But to answer your question: If you want a straight line method, from cold appro…
/r/seduction15/01/25 04:47 PM
8

Direct but polite. Don't give them unearned validation though, she knows you approached her because you find her attractive. YOUR goal should be to determine whether she fits into your life.
/r/seduction15/01/25 12:36 PM
5

😂🤣😆
/r/seduction08/01/25 01:07 PM
51

How you get a FWB back is by living your life until SHE comes back, or you just get a new one. Come on my guy, you are operating from a scarcity mindset. Keep it pushing.
/r/seduction06/01/25 03:31 PM
3

I'm not asking a complete stranger to cuddle with me? That line would be for a person who has given me strong IOIs.
/r/seduction01/01/25 06:02 PM
-1

My go-tos are "Wanna continue having fun at mine or yours?" or "Where can we go to cuddle together alone"
/r/seduction01/01/25 03:44 PM
2

Maybe this post would be less controversial if OP was more succinct. I agree that the focus should be on inputs (activity, appearance, attitude) but it should be continuously evaluated based on outputs (number of dates, sexual partners, and retention of sexual partners).
/r/seduction31/12/24 04:54 PM
7

Minimal effort to this girl from now on, next rejection from her should be the final one.
/r/seduction26/12/24 01:28 AM
8

I believe the problem is that you are extrapolating your own experiences to the majority of women in their 30s. Aging is natural and happens to both men and women. It takes a very dedicated individual to not only stave off signs of aging but also improve their physical health. Most people don't work on themselves like that. As to society's preference of younger women, I can only speak to it as a heterosexual man - but I'm inclined to agree with the common explanations of younger women tending to…
/r/seduction16/12/24 08:49 PM
16

I'm glad that you are self-confident but let's not pretend that thirty-something year old women are more desirable than twenty-somethings to most men. I do agree however that older women tend to be more comfortable in their sexuality and are easier conversationalists.
/r/seduction16/12/24 08:08 PM
1

Just fuck her properly - making sure she orgasms multiple times - and don't talk to her too much between those sessions. If you want to make sure you are the number one guy for her, while you are in your situationship - no protection.
/r/seduction16/12/24 07:21 PM
19

Do your absolute best to get your fitness and finances in order. Only date women in their early to mid twenties with some sense of responsibility. Women your age are still in the dating world but not for good reasons.
/r/seduction16/12/24 07:13 PM
39

Whether pretty or not, they are just girls.
/r/seduction15/12/24 11:32 AM
1

Different hardware but the underlying software is the same. Just treat them like regular women, they will appreciate you for that.
/r/seduction21/11/24 09:26 PM
27

You just need to lead: if she wants ya, she will follow.
/r/seduction15/11/24 07:25 PM
3

If the roles were reversed, she probably would have chickened out before approaching you. That's how I stay confident.
/r/seduction05/11/24 07:09 AM
2

The quickest time for me was in an hour of meeting a first date in person, but I definitely could have beat that record with women at clubs/parties. I just don't trust a person willing to sleep with a stranger so quick, with my sexual health.
/r/seduction04/11/24 10:02 PM
1

Why are you so outcome dependent? As long as you effectively communicate your interest in her, whilst being respectful (as you will see her again regardless of her response), then you are fine to approach.
/r/seduction31/10/24 01:43 AM
1

How much did he pay you to partner with him?
/r/seduction21/10/24 08:41 AM
1

You can't learn anything about this situation except to find women who fit into your desired communication style, charge it to the game.
/r/seduction17/10/24 01:18 PM
3

There is your problem - you are outcome dependent. Just focus on being fun, friendly and flirty. Escalate when you see the universal signs of attraction. Rinse and repeat.
/r/seduction12/10/24 04:23 PM
1

Go to where the women are at, where they are relaxed, and you can stand out. The park, yoga, bars, clubs, the coffee shop, etc.
/r/seduction12/10/24 02:35 PM
2

Of course they'll be differences in approach reception and close rate, depending on their races. Who cares though? You can't score if you don't shoot. Don't get caught up in race nonsense, humans attraction signals will rise above social constructs.
/r/seduction12/10/24 02:27 PM
7

Agreed. I remember a FWB that slow ghosted me and did not tell me she was sleeping with another guy until I confronted her about it. I'm a firm believer that if we are sleeping together, you should be upfront that you are sleeping with other people. In this situation, it's a health concern and basically an open relationship.
/r/seduction07/10/24 05:43 PM
1

Why are you talking to women who are working? Stop being a pussy and approach them where they are relaxed and having fun. Clubs, pubs, parks, Zumba/yoga, etc.
/r/seduction07/10/24 12:13 AM
4

Anywhere at anytime. Results may vary.
/r/seduction01/10/24 08:52 PM
1

Depends on what pants you wear but I usually wear all black Vans or low Chuck Taylor's.
/r/seduction01/10/24 02:34 PM
3

You are doing great btw, keep going out SOLO, building connections and eventually you'll meet women to escalate with. Personal opinions: You don't need to wait for eye contact otherwise you'll end up staring at girls and that's weird. A better IOI is to notice the girls hovering near you, either near the bar or on the dance floor, and strike up a conversation. Just go have fun, learn to dance if you don't know how to. Stop buying girls drinks until you know for sure she's interested in you. I do…
/r/seduction01/10/24 03:16 AM
1

I've read more than I need to, charge it to the game and break up with her.
/r/seduction24/09/24 03:37 AM
8

My go-to euphemism is "cuddling". It's bullshit that you have to dance around it but it is what it is.
/r/seduction23/09/24 03:03 PM
2

Adding onto this comment I agree with - you need to be invoking their emotions rather than the logic side of their brain. A very simplified example I like to use is, imagine if your interest is your hot stepsister. Then treat her like that. Tease her and flirt sometimes, tell her no and disagree other times, and obviously give her advice and direction like a stepbrother should. If you keep practicing that vibe, then eventually you'll have women who will respond like hot stepsisters do - flirt ba…
/r/seduction19/09/24 02:50 AM
2

Give us examples of what you normally talk about with women.
/r/seduction18/09/24 06:16 PM
1

People are much more open to casual relationships during the summer, then as winter approaches, people vet harder for serious partners to introduce to parents for the holidays.
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:17 PM
3

Hmm I think you are telling the truth - good stuff, I need to improve my bar game. Have a look at your DMs in a few minutes.
/r/seduction16/09/24 06:20 AM
1

I need to know your physical profile before I can comment: I piece that you are above the age of 25, living in or around Toronto, and either come from money or you aren't poor. You seem to spend a lot of effort on your posts, that tends to bleed into what you do for a living, so I'm going to guess you are of Asian descent.
/r/seduction16/09/24 06:01 AM
1

OP please reflect upon this comment ^
/r/seduction16/09/24 05:27 AM
2

Agreed. After a decade plus, what works best for me is a direct approach. Letting them know that I'm physically attracted to them, seeing if they reciprocate, then proceeding to keep things fun and flirty, whilst gathering information like their phone number, age, general idea of where they live and what stage they are in life. The key is that I approach anyone who I'm not physically repulsed by and who I think will have a nice body under the clothes. I'm not hung up on the face like most men. O…
/r/seduction15/09/24 02:18 PM
2

Why not just talk to her about it? See where she's at regarding physical intimacy. I get the vibes that you are both a bit socially awkward (correct me if I'm wrong) and since you aren't experienced enough to navigate this situation non-verbally, it's just best to talk it out.
/r/seduction13/09/24 08:48 PM
1

That's okay, Rome wasn't built in a day, neither will your mindset change in that timeframe or your skill. Just keep at it and you will most definitely see results! I used to approach EVERY day, at malls, parks, wherever I saw anyone I was somewhat attracted to.
/r/seduction13/09/24 07:11 PM
1

I always saw rejections as a rejection of your offer, not your entire being. To those people who may disagree, imagine if I said to a person "Let me take you out on a date where I buy you [insert expensive desirable item/experience]". I would be so busy with dates aha.
/r/seduction13/09/24 04:11 PM
2

I understand, growing up in a culture similar to how you were raised. You definitely have to make it known that you are interested in something more than a date, "I have to go but can I grab your number so we can continue this on a date"? My last advice is cultivating the mindset of the woman (presumably) not rejecting you as a person but merely rejecting your offer.
/r/seduction13/09/24 03:56 PM
2

I agree with this comment. If you think back to the popular guys in your school, you might remember that the girls would tend to sit near or hover around them.
/r/seduction13/09/24 03:38 PM
1

I'm curious so you are starting conversations but getting friendzoned, what problems do you have escalating?
/r/seduction12/09/24 04:43 AM
6

With respect to your friendship, not judging him as a person - but he comes across as avoiding the negative feelings that may come with rejections from cold approach. Women respect the confidence that comes with cold approach, although there is nothing inherently wrong with dating through social circles.
/r/seduction10/09/24 02:58 PM
1

OP take notes! This guy knows what he's talking about.
/r/seduction09/09/24 07:30 PM
2

Promise you that won't stop her from giving the cooch up for the right guy, it's just gotta be you!
/r/seduction07/09/24 09:09 AM
23

u/daygamecode explained the stages very well (just adjust according to the situation): "Cold approach requires technique, it isn’t something a noob does and gets sex immediately without knowing what he is doing. For instance most noobs at cold approaching just have 1-2 minute interrogations and then ask for the number once they run out of questions. That’s not how cold approach is supposed to be done, and it leads to 99/100% failure rate. (By failure I mean failure to have sex. As you only get n…
/r/seduction06/09/24 11:52 PM
10

In terms of increasing the pure number of hookups ? You must lead every stage of the interaction, be able to quickly identify the ladies that won't follow and move on from them. Also not care much about looks lol.
/r/seduction06/09/24 11:36 PM
1

Why is she "afraid of the boys"?
/r/seduction06/09/24 07:16 PM
5

Just ask her about tennis then, if she's passionate about it - it can become a lengthy conversation starter. If that goes well and she gives the signs of interest, ask her to teach you 1on1 or some shit.
/r/seduction06/09/24 07:04 PM
4

If you are classified as "good dick" in her mind, she'll swing back to you eventually. This however ain't going to be a relationship, rather a FWB by the looks of it. Go spend time talking to other women.
/r/seduction06/09/24 05:49 PM
1

Absolutely excellent model for cold approaching. Just practice these steps enough times and you will achieve results (as long as you are decent-looking and sociable).
/r/seduction06/09/24 04:15 AM
2

What helped me was turning it into a game: Every rejection was a point, and after 10 points I would reward myself with a drink.
/r/seduction06/09/24 04:08 AM
3

Ask the hot girls out in your school
/r/seduction05/09/24 10:37 PM
1

Too bad buddy, you can't afford to be lazy about approaching and seducing. The vast majority of men don't have the luxury of having women approaching, or showing warm IOIs out of the gate. The nerves wear off when you are interacting and escalating on a daily basis. Now go out there and get the girls you want.
/r/seduction03/09/24 03:45 PM
1

Approach early, approach often.
/r/seduction19/08/24 04:34 PM
13

What is up with certain members of this sub thinking that being in a monogamous relationship is the highest moral level of human existence? Like congrats, now you have to deal with the same woman who will get you an endless amount of shittests over time.
/r/seduction13/08/24 03:55 PM
4

Good shit OP. This will definitely help people with online dating, also I think this is good practice for IRL conversations too. Keeping things fun and flirty whilst taking control of the conversation, seems to help me consistently get the ChatBot’s number.
/r/seduction12/08/24 11:08 AM
1

I disagree with some of the other commenters, if being direct is your natural inclination, then keep doing that. Yes you may get less dates/lays as a result but you are screening for the most agreeable women. Fiji isn’t a big place and quite frankly, most attractive women are there with their significant others or for work. It’s going to be a challenge, work on your looks and presentation.
/r/seduction23/07/24 03:16 PM
2

Wear protection! Doubt you are the only one she’s being casual with. And since she’s the one who brought up - you might as well experiment with some kinks (with her consent of course).
/r/seduction03/04/24 04:27 PM
1

Good read! The key to reducing or overcoming approach anxiety, is to divorce yourself from the outcome. If she hands out her number and texts back or not - who cares? You did your job as a man to initiate the interaction.
/r/seduction03/04/24 04:20 PM
1

Great job man, the process seemed very natural for you, which is good to read. So are your intentions to eventually have a relationship?
/r/seduction03/04/24 04:13 PM
5

When I asked for the number, my close rate was roughly 30%. When I gave my number, my close rate increased dramatically to approximately 80%. As an example of what to say when handing out the number, I would just say (In-person) “Give me your phone, I’m going to add my number.” or (Dating app/ social media) “Here’s my number, let’s continue this off the app.” It’s authoritative whilst also giving her the comfort of knowing that I don’t have her number yet. If she asks why would she pull out her …
/r/seduction02/04/24 01:27 PM
14

Have to call 🧢 on that. My closing rate had increased tremendously by giving them the number. Might just not work with your game.
/r/seduction02/04/24 03:03 AM
1

You are coming to the wrong conclusion, every individual regardless of gender should focus on putting extra effort. Where a lot of women who don’t have luck in relationships screw up is putting effort into the wrong areas.
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