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They’re not attractive that’s why. The ones who are good looking get picked and mind their business. They only go off on their tirades about women in company that personally knows them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:33 PM
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Why does the age where women allegedly hit the wall keep shifting among westerners? It went from 25, to 30, to 35, to 40 and now 50. Is it because people are aging better? Or because on average people are hitting certain life “milestones” at later ages?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:36 PM
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They brought up the independence issue because women who have their own place hold the same view as women who don’t. So they’re saying sex logistics doesn’t seem like it’s the only reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:33 PM
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Men have condoms and other forms of male birth control on the rise. Does that mean it lets them be hoes with no accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:30 PM
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The same can be said of women men pick to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:29 PM
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Being good enough for a one night stand does not mean you are likable to that woman. She could’ve been horny and then decided you weren’t up to her expectations and then she changes her mind. Or maybe she just wanted a one night stand to begin with but didn’t tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:20 PM
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If a woman is flaking on you for something that is actual frivolous nonsense then she didn’t like you that much or at all. If she likes you a lot even little things you do that irritate her she’ll look past or learn to love by looking at through rose colored glasses. A woman’s other options become irrelevant in the face of the person she really wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:16 PM
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And again, you gain experience dealing with people by - you'll never guess - dealing with people. Some people deal with people more at younger age. You can be older and not deal with people much. Age is not the only and not the most important factor. Again, if you didn’t deal with people much there are people your age who also have similar experiences. A 40 year old introverts experience will pale in comparison to a 40 year old extrovert but there are other 40 year old introverts who have simila…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:09 PM
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Intention is different from outcome, yes. But no, this is not how it works in terms of manipulation. Unless you are claiming that convincing doesn't exist and changing anyone's mind about anything is manipulation. In this case you're just delusional. Bike analogy doesn't work in this scenario, as convincing somebody doesn't necessarily mean harm, unlike being hit by the bicycle. It is how it works in terms of manipulation as well. Manipulation and convincing are also different things. If I hit y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:02 PM
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I’m sure that’s your reality. That’s great for you. Thoughts on the old aspect of things?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 12:32 PM
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Do you have anything more recent? A lot can change in a decade. Plus, a single childfree woman will still be supporting herself. It’s a different situation than women who reduce their working hours or don’t work because they’re married with children. Or take more out in taxes than they owe because they have children who they can’t afford to raise. A single childfree woman more often than not will be paying for herself literally and in the tax sense, unless she has a disability of some sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 09:31 AM
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If that’s your rationale for it so be it. My only point is that sexual options don’t guarantee relationship options to a significant degree. How do you factor in online dating into this?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 09:30 AM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 04:07 PM
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It doesn’t. Not every country has a social welfare system like you’re describing and the women in the 4B movement are paying their own way and paying taxes. They don’t marry men because the risk is too great. They risk losing their careers, being socially isolated etc all for a man that may make them do all the ancestral rites themselves, cheating etc. plus the cost of raising a child and even renting an apartment in SK.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 04:06 PM
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Not how it works. Unintentional manipulation is not manipulation. It's called to convince somebody. When you bring up some arguments that could be stronger than another person's due to your experience, for instance, and they agree with you, then you convinced them, not unintentionally manipulated. It is how it works. Intent is different from outcome. If I’m profane with you and my intention wasn’t to offend you does it change the fact that I was profane? Absolutely does. Paying rent longer doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 03:37 PM
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It’s because in the OG video on his page he was making comments saying things along those lines. That women who are happy to be single are just coping.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 08:47 PM
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It’s not ego fueled manipulation. 4B is women realizing there is too much risk and little to no reward if you get too involved with men. So they minimize their interactions with men as much as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 08:41 PM
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If there is no intention, then there is no manipulation. Simple. Convincing is not manipulating. It is manipulation simply unintentionally. If I hit you with my bike by accident because I didn’t see you, does that change the fact that I hit you? I didn’t intend to hit you but I still did. Intention doesn’t always change the outcome. No, they don't automatically have more experience if they, for example, spent all that time studying. Doesn’t matter. Unless they were completely locked away from so…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 08:38 PM
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Divorces and non-marital breakups aren’t the same thing. Women initiate most divorces but for non-marital breakups it’s fairly even. Plus the divorce stats you’re referring to is about who filed not who caused the end of the marriage. If Spouse A left the marital home and ghosted their spouse, then after years Spouse B filed for divorce, who ended the marriage? What do you mean by showing you’re afraid to lose your SO? Like being scared of breakups? Being clingy? Anxious attachment? Or is it som…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 08:29 PM
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This implies that the individual in question wants to be manipulative. When comparing two manipulative individuals, that is the case. That would be like me saying you've had X number of years to learn how to be an abuser. Are you an abuser tho? If not, then why does it matter how much time has passed If you're not an abusive person? Because you could be. When dating is always important to vet and do risk analysis. Will getting older just suddenly make you abusive and manipulative? I don't believ…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 08:25 PM
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Women don’t initiate the vast majority of breakups. Unless you’re specifically talking about divorce? If you’re referring to non-marital breakups it’s fairly balanced between men and women. If the woman cares more she’s more at risk in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:36 AM
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So it sucks for her but benefits him? That doesn’t make it objectively better overall. It just makes it better for the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:35 AM
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Those tend to not become relationships. The woman ends up a pump and dump or a stepping stone more often than not. It’s very beneficial for men but it’s not the best and healthy relationships because it’s often not healthy from the woman’s side. The way a man can be taken advantage of if he loves his partner way more is the same way a woman can be taken advantage of when she loves her partner way more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:32 AM
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The age plays into how level the playing field is. Someone with 30 years to master their manipulation game will be significantly more skilled at it than someone with only 18. Interesting how people acknowledge how time/experience is relevant in nearly every other Avenue of life except when it comes to men dating young women. A 55 year old manipulator is in a whole different class of manipulation than a 25 year old. Do you believe 55 year old women are the same as 25 year old women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:08 AM
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“Woman” and “race” cards aren’t real. Who said it’s automatic manipulation? The intention isn’t for it to be manipulative. Some people would like to maintain that age differences are irrelevant because it’s beneficial to them for young people to go into situations unaware of the full risks. They’d rather pretend it’s the same because then they have more access. If a young person is fully aware of the risks they may reconsider certain decisions or if they still choose to proceed they’ll be more v…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:06 AM
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It can still manifest in other unintentional ways. If you’re having a disagreement fully intending to be civil and you pull the age/experience card to bolster your argument about why your side is the correct side. That’s invoking the power imbalance despite not actively trying to manipulate her. The older partner just genuinely thinks he is right and that his experience is worth drawing on. It is like that because there are attempts at manipulation. Not all relationships are healthy, especially …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 01:43 AM
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Nope. You can still be mature while judging people. It depends on how you go about it. Unwarranted verbal harassment of that person because of your judgment? Immature. Feeling repulsed by that person because of your judgment and keeping your distance as a result? Mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 12:40 AM
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Yes, you would. If you’re living in a western country now the positive stereotypes they have about westerners would give you an advantage over local men because some of the women will assume you fit the bill. If you’re not from a western country but you’re from a country that is somewhat known and better off than the one you’re a PPB in you’d still have the same positive stereotypes applied to you, albeit to a lesser degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 12:38 AM
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Not all, but enough that it’s something to be aware of if you’re dating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 12:34 AM
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It’s relevant because it directly correlates to the reason for the power imbalance. It’s easier to protect yourself against red flags when the other person has had the same amount of time in the “dating game” as you. It’s like that because trying to use someone and employing manipulation tactics isn’t a genuine healthy relationship built on cooperation and mutual trust. It’s toxicity meant to enable you to use someone and mess them up emotionally with little to no consequences. So with that in m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 12:34 AM
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Because he’s had a much longer time to learn manipulation tactics than a man her age. It’s a more level playing field to see through red flags in a man her age vs a man who is much older who has had more time to learn how to mask his red flags. It’s like saying bringing up Olympian status when you would lose a race against prime Usain Bolt doesn’t matter because you’d probably lose against a college runner too. It’s a whole different league.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:43 AM
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Those are strange too impo. I had a male friend in college who was dating a guy over 20 years older than him and I told him every day to leave that old ass man alone because no 40 something year old man interested in starting a political career is going to approach a 19 yo with good intentions. I ended up being 100% right in the end. Then another buddy of mine was telling me how he lost his virginity to a 33 y/o woman when he was 17 and we got in to it because I told him that’s rape. She literal…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:40 AM
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She said she was mature, not unjudgemental.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:35 AM
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Depends on the size of the age gap and the ages of the two people. I don’t bat an eye at a 20 year age gap if the parties are 40 and 60 or 30 and 50. 18 and 38 would definitely have me raising an eye brow though. I personally would not date a woman much younger than myself. I don’t do much but quietly judge when I see large age gaps either unless I know for a fact the younger party is below the AOC. Or if I personally know the younger party. Outside of those two instances I just see it and move …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:34 AM
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So why are you saying “we had that”? What OP is proposing is very different from monogamy of the past. He’s trying to eliminate the ability to judge on looks and income in the spirit of fairness. That’s not how monogamy functioned in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 09:36 PM
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Most western societies are still fairly monogamous. Plus, before casual sex was an open thing people would still size each other up in terms of looks, personality, income etc. Or if a woman’s father was curating the match he’d size up the man’s income and provider ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 07:56 PM
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If she’s a lesbian probably not. If she’s a bisexual woman who has a strong preference for woman and has near exclusively dated women then yes. He can definitely seduce a woman like that if he’s her ideal guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 07:33 PM
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That’s an alright attitude to have when it comes to disciplinary or bed time routines. Not when it comes to figuring out how to keep them fed, housed and clothed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:17 PM
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The reactions will vary per circle. Not all women want to ride the CC. Some do some don’t. Depending on which kind of women you’re talking to you will see different reactions. For women that want to marry early they’ll be jealous of 20 yo getting married. She is living the life they want and it makes them feel inadequate. For women who don’t want that, they’ll be appalled and pity her as if her life is now over. They personally would feel trapped and stagnated as a 20yo bride so they project tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:09 PM
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Oh ffs, how many women are paying for sex with men versus the inverse? Don't even try with this. You’d be surprised, especially among older ladies. No it's not, that's the point. It's nothing. Nobody is looking at my situation and going, "yeah his dating life is going well", but the stats say I'm in the green; So to say a majority of guys are having sex without getting into the details is to say absolutely nothing. It's a cop-out. It is something. Ask a guy who only has sex 2x a year if he’d lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:06 PM
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Yuh
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:03 PM
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The number of men in that boat has risen but the majority are still having sex though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:01 PM
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Yuh
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 01:56 PM
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What is “a lot of guys to you?” Incels are the minority of men. The majority of men in their twenties are having sex. It may not be as much as they’d like but they’re still having sex so by definition they can’t be considered incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 01:56 PM
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Yah.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 01:54 PM
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The point that women’s standards for sex and relationships isn’t too far apart from each other. So if you’re a man who can have sex with a woman chances are extremely high you can get into a relationship with her. Vs a man who has a wider disparity between who he’ll fuck and who he’ll date, so who a man fucks has little to do with who he’ll date?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 01:54 PM
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That’s much more than zero. If it’s with two different women he could be having it way more than 2x that means he cut things off from becoming an fwb or relationship that results in more regular sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 01:53 PM
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The numbers for women also include women paying for men to sleep with them. It’s still something. Even when you compare it against the numbers for how many men have paid an escort and exclude them, the majority of men are still having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 01:52 PM
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So do men. Guys will fuck anything but not date. They’ll fuck a woman and keep it secret but they won’t want to date her. For women a higher percentage of the time if they’ll sleep with a man they’d also be willing to date him. It’s not always the case but it’s true more often for women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 11:06 PM
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Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 11:05 PM
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Most do. The only ones who don’t are incels. All other men can get sex. How attractive you are dictates the frequency and conditions though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 11:05 PM
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Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:01 PM
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They do if she’s willing to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:01 PM
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Not for sex but they do for dating. Most of them women who would be willing to fuck you would also be willing to date you. The same isn’t true for women in regard to men who’d fuck them. Men have a higher chance of turning a sex partner into a relationship than a woman would. So there’s balance there. The only exceptions are incels and femcels.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 09:57 PM
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It is the vast majority of young men. They may not be able to have a new girl everyday, but they’re still having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 09:56 PM
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They don’t. Them being low quality makes them undesirable and therefore tanks their options.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 09:55 PM
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Things balance out though because men have a higher relationship entry success rate than women that tends to offset the sex disparity he’d have with his female counterpart. Unless the man is incel level ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 09:55 PM
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The vast majority of young men are still having sex though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 09:53 PM
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It’s because once you do get your foot in the door your odds of the other person willing to be serious with you are higher than a woman’s in the same boat. For example if a guy can only get 3 women to sleep with him but 2/3 want to date him. He has more relationship options than a woman who has 50 men who want to sleep with her but only 1 wants to date her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 09:52 PM
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Is it? Let’s say a woman has 100 men who will fuck her but only 2 would want to have a serious relationship with her. While a man only has 5 women that want to fuck him but 4 out of 5 want a serious relationship with him. The man ends up having more options for a relationship despite having less options for sex. Believing sexual options leads to relationships options relies on men and women desiring relationships from the people they would sleep with at equal rates. Looking at the disparity betw…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 09:50 PM
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They don’t have infinite options. If they did they wouldn’t be low-quality women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 09:40 PM
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This is not true for low-quality women. This is only true for average or high quality women. Low quality women struggle with dating but they tend to have better platonic support networks so it’s easier to cope with not being desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 09:39 PM
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They’re not pursued. Which ties into them being low quality in the first place. The only thing they might have over low quality men is more emotionally intimate friendships. If low quality women didn't have the support from their friends and other women I'm sure they'd be just as miserable. That leads into a whole separate conversation about why men being emotionally intimate with their friends is labeled gay. I say that because low quality men would be a lot happier if they got to enjoy the sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 09:39 PM
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The difference is low quality women are a bit more ok with being alone than low quality men. So people aren’t as concerned with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 08:17 PM
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If she broke up with him she’s already mourned the loss of that relationship long before it actually ended. If he broke up with her she probably takes just as much time to heal from it as him but she’ll internalize a lot of that or cry to her girlfriends so her ex won’t know. Some may go the route of posting like they’re having fun to make him think she doesn’t miss him or want him when she really does.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:03 PM
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There’s a variety of reasons. You have to ask her to know for sure: 1) She could be trying to see if there’s competition or not because she wants to be exclusive. 2) She could be trying to figure out where she stands with you as a FWB because you hadn’t seen each other in a while. “Was he busy with other women? Or general life” 3) She could be asking to re-organize her roster if she has one, or to build one guilt free if she doesn’t and you do. 4) She could be trying to see whether it’s worth se…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:58 PM
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That’s not true. You can go to Latam still, parts of the Caribbean etc. they don’t have the same stereotypes against brown men as many westerners do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:53 PM
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So what are we disagreeing on here?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:00 PM
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Do you dislike when women assert themselves and express their needs and desires?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:00 PM
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In my opinion who holds stricter standards completely depends on the specific behavior being expressed. For independence and assertiveness men judge women much more harshly and give them a narrow view of how they can express that before it’s a character flaw. For crying and sadness women judge men much harsher and give them a narrower view of how they can express this. Again not all, not all, not all but that’s generally what you’ll see. Even with men wanting women to behave among gendered lines…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:58 PM
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So you can be attracted to someone’s generosity and pampering of you then too right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:52 PM
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It doesn’t contradict the post. If she’s not attracted to him there are other ways he can benefit her life(“in some way”) so that she will date him. Vast majority of relationships are transactional then if you’re framing it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:13 PM
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It’s a lot more than that. Men tend to like to simplify things that aren’t favorable in the company of women because they don’t want women to catch on to certain things. Vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:12 PM
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Most people don’t want a partner who never voiced their own opinions and always acquiesces to what they want while never expressing their needs or true feelings. If my girl doesn’t like something I appreciate her speaking her mind and we discuss things and grow together. She’s my partner not my NPC side kick who only lives for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:11 PM
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It’s changing in the west but currently most men still make more than their partners. 2 people run up bills more than one. Especially if kids are in the picture so you’re going to be spending more money in a relationship than when you were single. Even if you’re splitting finances 50/50 a lot of couples still spend more money because the woman wants to go on dates and trips that the man may not want to do while single. So even with both paying their own way he’s spending more than he did while s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:08 PM
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Yup I’m well aware. You have to have a certain level of independence, patience and mental resilience to handle dating a deployed soldier. Without this you won’t be able to cope with them being away or be able to adequately emotionally support them when they return home. A friend I met on my travels was in the US army and he told me about his first wife divorcing him after his tour got extended. She was irate he wasn’t coming home for practically another year after he was already gone so long. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:06 PM
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Yes. If not how were they planning to afford a wife(or gf if they’re anti-marriage) and kids? If they room with other similarly minded men they can afford rent, buying a used car or taking advantage of your cities public transportation system wherever possible would help with the car note too. If they’re really sexually disadvantaged they’d save up and move money around to afford it. Just as people do with anything they need or want badly enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:19 AM
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That’s not too bad. Unfortunately women aren’t going to care to know the exact specifics unless they get to know you through other means and it naturally comes up in conversation. Most will default to the belief that they’ll basically be a married single mother if they get with a blue collar man. The cultural understanding of what blue collar life entails after these men get off work would have to shift to for things to change. Divorce attorneys also don’t help. When they make those lists of wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:15 AM
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Lonely men with a bankroll that women don’t want can afford to pay actual women to sleep with or date them. Which they currently do. So whether or not those men switch from sugar babies and escorts to sex robots will depend on the offerings, optics and price point. Even if the sex bots are priced at 20k doing a payment plan like with cars would enable a lot of men to afford it. Or they’d take out personal loans or buy it on credit. If the bot gets repoed she can be sanitized and sold as used or …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:04 AM
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I know there are levels to it. I acknowledged it in my post. How many hours were you working daily and what was your mental and physical state when you came home? The kind of blue collar work most women think of is time consuming backbreaking work. The kind where if your husband comes home every night he’s gone before the sun is up and home long after it sets. He’s too tired and achy to do anything but eat the dinner you’ve hopefully prepared. Blue collar men themselves don’t help with this imag…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:01 AM
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I think it will be. Not at the start. Just as how cars were a luxury only for the rich at the start but after the industry advance even less well off families could afford at least one car. They wouldn’t be that fancy or flashy but they’d get you from point A to point B. Sex bots will probably go much the same way because the biggest demand for them is going to come from men who aren’t wealthy. So making lower grade cheaper models to tap into that market will be profitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:41 AM
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To many people it is. Doesn’t mean they’d personally want to date a sex worker though. Same as trades. You can respect it as legitimate work while not wanting to date someone in the trades. If women want to have unrealistic dreams that’s their business. The success or failure of that will be there’s to deal with. Also with the trades you keep assuming that women don’t want to date those men because they look down on the profession and not because being the wife of a blue collar man comes with un…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:36 AM
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They’ll most likely be tiered like with cars so a variety of people can afford them. Since the men who’ll want them the most won’t be ones with a lot of disposable income.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:25 AM
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Women can acknowledge those trades are perfectly acceptable careers and still not want to date them. It’s like how men react to OF creators. Many acknowledge it as a legit career but much fewer are willing to date a woman that does it. You can think someone’s lifestyle is normal and still not want to join their lifestyle to yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:23 AM
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There’s sex dolls, custom porn and sex bots are on the way. Dating disparities are a much more complex issue to fix than height ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:21 AM
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Why not? If he’s bringing benefit to her life in some way what’s wrong with giving dating him a chance? If he’s not bringing benefits anymore she’ll dump him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:13 AM
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Not necessarily. No two people will be exactly 100% alike and agree all the time. In long term relationships you will end up disagreeing on things here and there. Whether it’s something minor like what to have for dinner one night, or something major like where to buy your home or what things to prioritize when looking to buy a home. If the two people are emotionally healthy and immature they’ll be able to talk through things relatively peacefully or at the very least not hold resentment if thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:12 AM
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They’re not that rare. Especially outside of the west. Plenty of relationships where the woman isn’t that attracted to the man but is with him because he has solid character, treats her well and he pays most of the bills. I also said that there could’ve been no physical attraction at all but a performance was put on. It depends on the specifics of the situation. You can have a lasting relationship without attraction. Typically the two individuals have things that tie them together beyond sex. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:06 AM
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Nope. The kind of women we are discussing wouldn’t fit your views because as I stated more conditions need to be met for them to judge the man’s character in the same vein that the men were discussing would. This is because in general men and women prioritize different things when seeking out partners. So how they respond to certain behaviors also differs. It’s like crying. How both men and women can be turned off by their partners of the opposite sex crying but the threshold for this isn’t the …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:01 AM
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I don’t think we disagree as much as you think. I completely agree that it is very ego based. The whole appeal of the cool girl and born sexy yesterday trope is that even a man who isn’t particularly spectacular by any stretch of the imagination can have a woman look at him like he hung the moon and the stars themselves. It also ties into purity culture. One aspect of it is don’t want to be compared to other men where they don’t measure up. However if he’s the best she’s ever had and he has the …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:57 AM
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It’s not a sugar baby. There’s levels to it. She could like his personality and how he treats her in addition to him paying for most joint expenses. A sugar baby gets an allowance and all expenses paid and her actually like the daddy isn’t necessarily a part of the deal. As a younger man I probably would’ve dated a men who paid all my bills and gave me a nice allowance but that time is long gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 10:15 PM
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As someone else brought up it’s not about the skill required. That’s just a cop out meant to dress up and intellectualize something more primal. Penis is viewed as more sullying and threatening than vagina. It’s why even in lgbt spaces you see different reactions to those who’ve been with penis havers compared to those who haven’t. Gold star lesbians are a thing but there’s no equivalent for gay men. Gay men don’t care much if a guy slept with a woman or two before he decided he was into men. Fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 09:37 PM
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western mainstream AA and Latino cultures were considered subcultures back then. They weren’t as mainstream as white media and beauty standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 09:20 PM
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Yeah, I think there's definitely an element of that. Women are socialised to be compliant and people pleasers, so when they start advocating for themselves or being disagreeable they are a 'bitch' in a way that people just wouldn't even blink of men did it. Exactly. A woman expressing disagreement to men who get this accusation(wanting women to perform femininity) are viewed as having flawed a character when she expresses disagreement. For a woman to view a man’s disagreement as a negative indic…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 09:18 PM
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No problem 🫡
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 09:06 PM
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I guess that’s the case then. I think almost everyone cares. Some people just care more than others. For some not finding love is like occasionally feeling peckish, while others it’s like feeling extreme starvation, weakness and fatigue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 09:05 PM
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Very true. In my case I guess it was akin to accepting death. I accepted that not everyone finds love and I may be in the boat that doesn’t. Since there’s a lot more life to live I might as well enjoy it as much as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 09:00 PM
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It wasn’t the most basic form. Agreeable for example there’s a wide spectrum of what one could classify as agreeable behavior. What I view as agreeable behavior you may not view as agreeable. So examples paint a clearer picture of what you mean. That’s the most basic self explanatory way to get your point across.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:55 PM
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I don't think so. I think when those qualities are expressed negatively like that they will be perceived negatively. More so by men. They’ll be viewed as the woman being un-feminine when in reality she’s just upset and expressing her dissenting opinion with the same passion and vigor as her support. The man's 'fiery passionate loud anger' will be reframed being aggressive and abusive, and the consensus advice will be to get away from him to be safe. Male anger is demonised in a way that female a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:54 PM
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I guess some people care more about falling in love and having families than others… but idk that seems like a nearly universal human trait. At least having a partner. Of course. Anyone would be sad at not finding love(except maybe asexual and aromantic people) there’s a big difference between being sad and feeling suicidal though. >I would imagine if you’re not particularly worried about your ability to find a partner then you could go on for quite some time without it bothering you. True. Even…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:50 PM
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Like what those things mean and what it looks like in practice. The dictionary definition doesn’t aptly cover how people use those terms in practice. So hypothetical or even anecdotal examples of what you consider to fit those traits and their antonyms would help more in making it clear what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:47 PM
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Sure but either way you’re going to die of starvation malnutrition. You’re just marginally prolonging the inevitable by eating ketchup packets. Both the person with nothing and the person with ketchup packets will perish before their time provided they had proper food.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:46 PM
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I don't think that anyway is really looking for a partner who is bold and loud and disagrees with them. That sounds like it would get pretty old. Let me expand Take 2 people who are fiery, passionate and loud. 1 straight man, 1 straight women. When these personality traits are being expressed when they’re happy or excited their partners would think nothing of it, or find it endearing at best. When these personality traits come out in an argument the woman’s partner is more likely to think less o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:43 PM
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Afghanistan, Tonga, Kuwait, South Africa, Mauritania etc. women that would be considered plump healthy and beautiful in these countries would be considered fat in the west. Similarly women that are considered beautiful in the modern west would be considered fat in the 1990s-early 2000s west. Beauty standards aren’t stagnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:38 PM
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The other commenter was speaking in the general sense. How men and women are viewed overall trickles down into how they’re viewed in the dating arena.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:34 PM
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Yep, exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:33 PM
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That’s not self hatred. That’s being upset/dejected about their dating life. You can like yourself and be sad about being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:33 PM
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Can you expand? What does all this mean and look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:32 PM
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It’s not just about similarities. Since women like men who are similar to them as well. It’s about submission or something similar. Not all but many men(the ones who triggered the “men like women who perform femininity rebuttal) like women to pedestalize and revere them. His wants, needs, desires and opinion should be her number 1 priority even if it’s at the expense of herself. She should never question his judgment or argue back. Whereas women like men who are similar to themselves but they do…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:31 PM
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Lolll. That’s what I thought lol. Vanessa was who popped up as the winner when I searched. So I thought “maybe it’s a mistake and she competed but didn’t win.” Nope. She’s no where on the list of the 2015 competitors from what I saw.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:23 PM
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You probably had other issues at play or other hardships in your life. For me it just made me sad on occasion when I thought about it too much. Never suicidal though because I had other things going for me in my life and a lot to be grateful for and happy with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:21 PM
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Yep agree to disagree. Bad dating experiences can derail your life, no dating experiences can just be an occasional bummer if you dwell on it too long. If you have an overall good life it’s fairly neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:53 PM
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She might be. As far as I’ve seen there’s nothing to back up her being miss NJ USA. I could be wrong though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:51 PM
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I understand. I’m saying dating men who aren’t her type and prioritizing benefits other than attraction is also an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:51 PM
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It’s not. As a once “incel” I’d prefer no experiences to shitty ones, but good experiences are better than both.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:50 PM
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They’re not that rare. One wealthy man can have multiple sugar babies, then there’s also Sugar babies with Splenda daddies. Same thing in a lower tax bracket. It can be both. There was never any attraction but a performance was put on until her position was secure or there was minimal attraction that waned over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:50 PM
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“Self-loathing is constantly feeling hate for yourself, which can lead to severe conditions like depression and substance abuse. But with therapy and different exercises, you can change the way you look at yourself. Here's everything you need to know.” self loathing “Self-hatred encompasses continual feelings of inadequacy, guilt, and low self-esteem. People may constantly compare themselves to others, perceive only the negative and ignore the positive, and believe that they will never be "good …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:48 PM
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I don’t think it’s about stamina, I think men who are NT, especially if they’re secure and self loving find it annoying to keep pouring into someone who is essentially an empty void.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:40 PM
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Or they can’t date men who aren’t their type if he brings some value to her life beyond attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:39 PM
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I know. Which is what I looked up. Specifically Miss NJ USA not America. Interestingly enough I found internet rumors that Sameerah was actually lying about being a pageant winner at all. Who knows though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:39 PM
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It’s not. Men like the cool girl and born sexy yesterday tropes because they’re hot women who share their interests and essentially live for them but don’t really have any dissenting opinions. They never question him, never push back. He is always right because he is the smartest man in the world and his desires, thoughts and opinions should always be conceded to. This is why you’ll hear some people say men want women to perform femininity. She can be bold and loud if it’s in agreement with him,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:37 PM
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I disagree. Having shitty dating experiences is being unsuccessful as well. That’s like saying the only way to die is by being shot. When you can die from cancer, stab wounds or natural causes too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:33 PM
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If it’s not constant it’s not self-hatred. It’s just basic insecurities cropping up here and there. Self-hatred is a constant thing and it can spiral into depression if not adequately checked. Other people should not be the sole source of your happiness. If so you risk spiraling into a mental health crisis when you can no longer get the validation you seek. You can enjoy the happiness that comes from others but you should also know how to create your own happiness. This can also help with becomi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:31 PM
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They dump the guys if he’s not offering anything that makes up for the lack of attraction. If he’s benefiting her life she won’t dump him. Why would she?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:26 PM
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So you say yet judging by many mens reactions to Chelsea on love is blind(a fairly mild version of what I described here) I’d have to say you’re in the minority with this opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:26 PM
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If they’re pumped and dumped or abused that’s still successful?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:25 PM
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Yet people do it everyday. If you’re hot enough it can actually work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:24 PM
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Because the cultural standard in the modern west is that thin is a signifier of health, wealth, beauty and fertility. This wasn’t always the case in western history. Then there’s other countries in the east where they prefer more voluptuous women. As well as countries in the global south where they prefer straight up fat women and women force feed themselves to put on the pounds and become marriageable. It’s not a clear cut universal standard. Even in the west some women that are considered hot,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:22 PM
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So the boys had value to Chinese people and the girls didn’t? Why is that when women are supposed to have value by just existing?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:18 PM
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Being feminine isn’t an inherent part of being a pick me. Downing other women for brownie points with men is pick me behavior. For example two female friends that always share clothes. One is a pick so when they’re around cute guys she tries to play things off as if her friend is a broke bum always taking her clothes to make her friend look bad in front of the guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:15 PM
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What is feminine behavior in your words?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:12 PM
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Are you sure? When you look up Miss NJ USA 2015 it says a different woman was the winner that year. When you look up the list of the 29 competitors that year Sameeras name isn’t even on the list. Unless she changed it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:12 PM
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You enjoy being around women who constantly shit test you to see if you still like them? Come at you with nonsensical hypotheticals to see if you really like them? Asking 20+ times a day for you to reassure you still like how they look, how they act, etc. Who constantly check in every time you want to go somewhere or insist on going everywhere with you because they’re scared you’ll leave due to not liking them etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:04 PM
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What is your definition of successfully dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:02 PM
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If you do like them it’ll be very hard to be with them because their self-hatred will result in anxieties that derail the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:02 PM
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Financially savvy?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:00 PM
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There’s a lot of women in relationships with men they’re not attracted to. Sugar babies, dead bedrooms where the woman shuts things down without stressors or medical/relationship issues as the cause. Plus where do you think the beta bux thing came from?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:00 PM
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You’ll still have trouble if you’re not your types type and the type of men who do like you, you’re not into.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 06:58 PM
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Focus on earning money and save up to try being a passport bro then.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:12 PM
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What is it then?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 12:11 AM
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She cut of continued access. What is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 11:45 PM
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It’s because abusers choose their victims. They know what kind of women will tolerate that kind of behavior and for how long. Some women run at the first sign of trouble, some give the guy the benefit of the doubt and run if there is no more reasonable doubt and other stick around even with lack of reasonable doubt because they feel they deserve the abuse and will never get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 11:43 PM
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It’s because a lot of assholes go with the honey trap love bombing approach. They’re sweet at first then crazy later and it leaves you wondering wtf happened. Women do the same thing to men. You ever had a buddy who dated a woman that he thought was so sweet and kind only to later find out she’s the Devil incarnate? Same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 11:42 PM
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I’ve never see that. I’ve heard the flip side where they demand women stop sleeping with “chads” and I’ve witnessed them be called incels and misogynists for that. The rare times I’ve seen men suggest to stop collectively sleeping with women I’ve seen other men respond by saying it’s crazy how men are being blamed for women’s behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 10:07 PM
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So why don’t men collectively decide to stop putting out to change the sexual market place in their favor?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 09:57 PM
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Not being into a guy isn’t misbehaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 09:45 PM
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Most women that seek you out because you’re offering something they’re looking for. That doesn’t mean it’s indicative of women overall. From how you’re describing them anyway it seems they’re a lot more desperate than the average woman which is also playing a role.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 09:35 PM
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If you want to be. I can’t tell you what to or not to dislike. I’m simply pointing out that if you enjoy destructive activities there will be people that find you creepy and they will try to avoid you. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 09:20 PM
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Them being random women on dating apps doesn’t change anything. They’re going to seek out a man who is providing what they want at the moment. Putting “no hookups” in their profile makes it easier for them to filter through men they want casual sex with while still keeping their options open for other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 09:20 PM
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You can argue that. Doesn’t mean it would stop people’s fear. It’s the same as how many people are creeped out by those that needlessly kill animals. Even though they’re not doing it to humans people can still be unnerved by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 09:18 PM
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They won’t learn to accept it. They’d be creep out by and try to avoid that in case one day they decide to cross the line from destroying humanoid robots to actually killing people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:58 PM
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So why are there people who are desperately in love yet they still try to avoid even when they can afford to(financially, emotionally and time wise)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:57 PM
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Sounds like this is selection bias. If you make yourself available to women interested in having a hoe phase by default you’ll have more interactions with those with higher libidos vs lower. The masses of women with lower libidos have no reason to interact with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:44 PM
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Exactly how long was it before you met someone? How many years of your adult life were you single? I was single my whole life before I met her. It was about 3.5 years between my mindset shifting and then us meeting and dating. More importantly, how did your date know you weren't "hyper focused" on the downsides of being single? Did she have telepathic powers? Once again. The main focus should be you and not women until you see that things are worthwhile. Whether she knew or not is irrelevant bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:32 PM
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That this: Yes and those songs were written for idealistic young girls to listen to not men lol Is an irrelevant point. The audience of the art does not diminish the love that the artist has/had for their muse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:21 PM
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I mean many just assume things will work out somehow or that the differences won’t impact the relationship and cause it to fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:19 PM
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Good for you. My paternal grandparents divorced because my grandfather couldn’t stop cheating and he fathered children with 3 women apart from my grandma. My maternal grandparents were together until my maternal grandmother passed away in her 40s. Maternal grandfather has now been with my step grandmother for 15 years. Not everyone’s marriage was the same back then. Just like now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:18 PM
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We’re going to have to wait for a good chunk of gen A to reach adult dating age to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:04 PM
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Many of the art men publicly create is also for the consumption of men. Even if the subject is a woman they love the artists audience is still other men. Does that diminish the love for the woman he had that inspired him?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:03 PM
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lol the projection that I’m some misogynist who thinks women don’t make good art. It’s not projection. You expressed this belief in your own words. Can’t take you people seriously Ditto.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:02 PM
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Plenty. In the most misogynistic times of the west though many women would publish art or writing under a male pseudonym because it wouldn’t be published otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:18 PM
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Unless you want/wanted the blowjob and gave your consent for sleep play you have been sexually assaulted. Whether or not you want to pursue a case is up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:14 PM
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It’s because each of women that can make it on their own financially slowly realize that they don’t have to tolerate as much as from men as their mothers and grandmothers did. First it was realizing they don’t have to stay with men that are serial cheaters or who hit them. Then the next gen realized they don’t have to stay with men who are excessive drinkers and bad with money. Now younger millennial and Gen Z’s are realizing they don’t have to deal with men who don’t pull equal weight in housek…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:11 PM
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u/GreenTurtle47 Commenting here because I was blocked on the thread. 37% or 18% iyo are good odds when you consider the fact that you’d be dating women in conjunction with men. You’d still be able to get a mix of dating both.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:03 PM
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So in essence you want to condemn men to a life of miserably ruminating on things they can’t change?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:00 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:57 PM
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Who did?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:11 PM
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It’s all insincere. You’re hyper focused on twisting to fit what they want, vs letting them get to know you as well and seeing if the two of you are sincerely and genuinely compatible people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:11 PM
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I’m talking worse than breakdowns. Social media exposé, damaging your property, sabotaging something for you etc. her breaking down would probably be the least of your worries. That’s why I always advise that it’s best to just stick to women who want casual if you also want casual. That way even if she wants something different down the line she’ll just break things off or ghost you vs trying to retaliate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:10 PM
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Whatever you do is your business. Just be aware of the risks that come with lying. Some women are vengeful and if you hurt them they will want to hurt you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:07 PM
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That’s around the age range of the people saying things like this. Again it is a mixed bag but I’ve heard a lot more people under 30 saying these things than in the past. I’m with you introducing an fwb to family or taking them out for valentines seems odd to me. For a lot of people these days though it’s not that odd. You can do all that and it means absolutely nothing in terms of relationship status.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:05 PM
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“That's fair, but I'd say it’s also a response to how women treat the first date. There's a massive over emphasis on there being immediate physical attraction and "spark" where the man is summarily rejected because she wasn't "wowed" or thinking he's "hot" within minutes. This is playing a huge part in less physically attractive men and introverted men really struggling. They're rarely getting even a chance to date, and even when they do, are judged quickly and mostly superficially. Accordingly,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:03 PM
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Why are you against ons? Adding in a mix of all 3 dynamics while being honest would get you the most sex with the least amount of problems. Overall it sounds like you’re having the typical FWB experience of an average man. It’ll always be like that, even if you add dishonesty into the mix. The only thing that will change from lying or being dubious is you’ll be more likely to attract women who will retaliate against you in some way for leading them on. If you’re having FWBs then getting ghosted …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:00 PM
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Nothing is wrong with being honest. However if you’re honest that means not everyone will stick around. If they don’t have compatible interests with you, there’ll be little to nothing to discuss and they’ll be inclined to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:52 PM
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It’s not me projecting anything. It’s what was written. My only point anyway was that there’s alternatives if you find yourself having a hard time meeting women’s standards. Without having to put on a “performance”.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:50 PM
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Which means a sizeable portion still are. 37% sorry if that’s “too optimistic” of a view. It is the factual % though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:49 PM
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But quite significant in the grand scheme of things. Especially when compared to other stats thrown around on this sub. 37% is nothing to sneeze at.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:48 PM
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The two topics are intertwined. Especially since the claim that women slut shame other women was used to question the validity of women being honest with their friend groups. I’m trying to illustrate that two things can be true at once. Women can be honest with their friend groups because they’re comprised of likeminded women. While also being slut shamed by other women because the women doing the slut shaming are not in the friend groups of the women being deemed “sluts”.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:41 PM
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I am dealing with it by looking at both numbers. 37% of straight women are willing to date bi men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:38 PM
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I saw your later comment and 37% of them are willing to date bi men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:38 PM
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A balance-beam routine is a performance and no pretending is involved. A play is also a performance and it is pretend. It’s more in line with what the initial commenter was saying. A 1st date isn't putting on a character, it is putting yourself on display. That is a performance. That aura of fun is not a mask it is the authentic desire for a good time. It is a mask if that is not you. If you are a more reserved introvert and you’re putting on the performance of a fun extrovert that is a mask. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:37 PM
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It’s a big chunk in the grand scheme of things. It’s higher than the number of men who are sexless from the stat thrown around and that is considered a big chunk, so why isn’t 37% also a big chunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:17 PM
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Why is it weird when we’re specifically discussing women’s dynamics with other women? It was brought up that woman slut shame other women. My main point was to say the woman slut shaming them generally aren’t in their close circle of friends because her long lasting friends are typically likeminded. Honesty among each other is very likely when your friends have done the same things as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:17 PM
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So 37% of straight women would date bi men? That’s a big chunk
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:12 PM
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Does perceiving them as less attractive men they’re not willing to date them at all? Or does it mean that all else being equal they go for a straight guy first, but would still date a bi guy if he was a better catch?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:11 PM
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Overhearing things, observing. Or they’ll tell you. I’ve been told and been a fly on the wall to many of my female friends convos. Women generally, but not always, hang out with similarly minded women. Christian virgin women tend to hang out with Christian virgin women. Promiscuous women with promiscuous women and the in betweeners with in betweeners. Have you ever been privy to a convo where a woman says she can’t believe she’s the “last to get married” among but she’s and her friends are barel…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:08 PM
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That explains a lot. Different apps give different experiences. Tinder already had a rep as a hookup app but post COVID that became the case even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:02 PM
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Why wouldn’t they? Women admit some crazy things to their friends if they know they have similar values. For women who are promiscuous they tend to hang out with like minded women and indulge in those activities together. Like having a two man in the same room as each other feet away. Slut shaming happens between women when the women are acquainted but not trusted friends mostly. Or if they’re strangers gossiping about each others lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:00 PM
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If you were just two consenting adults getting your rocks off you wouldn’t be contemplating the need to be dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:57 PM
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They thought they could and then found out they couldn’t. Like people who think they’re ready to move up from the bunny slopes on a ski hill. They thought they could do it, tried and then failed. Some could just be straight up lying too. Who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:55 PM
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How old is the woman that wanted to meet your family? For some younger people I’ve noticed FWB now means relationship without the labels or responsibilities. When I heard Valentine’s Day dates were a thing FWBs were doing I was floored. However there were a lot of mixed opinions on it. So meeting the family could totally be a new age FWB thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:54 PM
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What happened with the women who did sleep with you? What prevented those from turning into longer term casual arrangements like friends with benefits or booty calls? Or are you specifically looking for one night stands only?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:51 PM
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What medium are you using to find these women. If it’s dating apps depending on which one you’re using it might be the algorithm. Some try to put more people who are looking for what you are in your match pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:50 PM
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If you do this you’re playing a dangerous game. If you’re taking the women back to your place, or they have your photo you’re putting yourself/your reputation at risk. Honesty works better, pair that with working on your physical attractiveness and looking your absolute best. Casual sex is 99% a looks based game. Investing in professional help to look better may improve your odds if you’ve done all you can do with working out, skincare, and haircare/styling.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:47 PM
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I have too much respect for myself to subject myself to a crucible of judgemental wretches just for the chance at companionship. I keep my own company better than anyone who wants me to jump through those hoops anyway. So don’t. You can also filter for compatibility before going on the date or just don’t at all. As you said you keep yourself good company. I have that same belief as well. Plus family and friends are a big joy too. There is happiness to be found in singleness and celibacy as well.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:43 PM
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It’s not about becoming more successful with women. It’s about becoming more satisfied with your life in a glass half full kind of way when you can. Self love type of thing. A lot of the love you’d pour into a partner if you had one you can pour into yourself and enjoy your celibacy. That’s what I did. You know like how women have the decenter men movement? Think the gender flipped version of that. Focus more on yourself. I started working out more holistically because I wanted to be healthier a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:27 PM
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Agree to disagree. I think each gender is employing a different one though both are likely to fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:16 PM
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Even for guys who are educated and have solid careers they find their wife abroad more easily than in the west. Yes if you only have one or 2 “deficits” moving to a culture where those are more easily forgiven gives you an easier time at finding love. It’s like women who are overweight who have a hard time dating in the west, if they move to a country where men aren’t as averse to hefty women they get better treatment from men there than in their home country. Same thing with men, if a guy is de…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:15 PM
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I completely agree that men and women fail in thinking they can fix another person's red flags. You can neither change nor save a person, the only thing you can do is provide motivation and/or help for them to save or change themselves. If they can't or won't do it themselves, it's a lost cause. I disagree. I think men underestimate how much they can tolerate and how easily things will just fall into place. Whereas women think they can actively make changes to make the relationship into what the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:10 PM
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Why bother going on dates if you're just going to get rejected? To speed run through and find the one who won’t reject you if they’re out there. Pretending to be something you’re not only prolongs the inevitable anyway if fundamentally you are incompatible. Eventually the incompatibilities will show as cause friction from one end or the other. You can also filter for compatibility before going on the date. Vs just taking what you can get. It's revealing that you're framing this in terms of "pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:08 PM
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Because that's not how it works. You've never been in this situation so you have no clue how it feels, obviously. I have been in this situation. Which is why I’m saying what I’m saying. Making changes to my life and rerouting my thinking did wonders. You seem stuck in the anger phase. Not everyone will find love as they are. I understood that early. For people who are in that boat what’s next? You can't just "not focus" on it. Would you tell someone who's starving to just stop "hyper-focusing" o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:59 PM
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Which they do in proportion to the degree they're attracted to him... so... it's still evaluating based on attraction. Evaluation based on attraction or not evaluating beyond attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:52 PM
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Women do evaluate men beyond level of attraction. Where they fail is in thinking they can do something to fix the situation if a man has many red flags. You can’t fix another person, they can only fix themselves if they deem it worthwhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 03:12 PM
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I think you have a desired conclusion in mind and would like others to share your same sentiments. Regardless there were unique pressures on black Americans that other black ethnic groups did not face and that has resulting in differing family dynamics. What is blue pill advice in your opinion? Women’s sexuality is no more destructive than men’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 03:10 PM
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This is not true at all. Some people do but I wouldn’t say it’s unbelievably common.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:30 PM
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Most women know how to do housework. Some will just pretend they don’t when a man is involved because they don’t want the role defaulted on them. Have you ever been in women’s spaces where they’re advising each other to not advertise their homemaking skills because they want to avoid men who only want them for that? Or men looking for a “mommy”?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:29 PM
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Many men don’t evaluate women at all beyond is she attractive to me. Then they get surprised later on when their dating experiences are horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:27 PM
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It doesn’t matter that it’s a coin toss. Women tend to be more risk averse than men. So if there’s a chance the assumption could be right and it’s something she knows she personally couldn’t deal with the guy will get dropped. For average men, there is “more incentive” to overlook potential red flags. For women this often isn’t the case. On the flip side you’ll also see men drop women for “petty” things when there isn’t a lot of incentive to overlook it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:25 PM
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Why would you wear your overpriced piece of crap to a date on a rainy day if you didn’t want to ruin it? Why not save it for a sunny day?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:23 PM
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That’s a lot more complex than just “women’s intuition” especially when you compare to black ethnic groups outside of the US. There’s a lot of history behind why so many black American children are born OOW, but the number is dropping.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:19 PM
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Why does the instant rejection need to be avoided? If you do that you’ve now set the stage for a bigger problem down the line. If you’re not a fun, extroverted or lighthearted guy but you pretend to be. You’ll have to keep that performance going in perpetuity or you risk being dumped later because “you changed, you’re not the man I fell in love with etc” when in reality you never were. It was just a character. If your only goal it STRs/flings so be it. You can just keep playing the character for…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:16 PM
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You are good enough and that’s ok. Despite the popular platitudes spewed about how “there’s someone for everyone” it’s not really true. Not everyone will find lasting romantic love. Some will find it and lose it, some will never find it. That doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with your worth as a person. You are still a valuable human being worthy of care even if that doesn’t come in the form of a romantic relationship. Do you have strong bonds with your family and friends? Do you have hob…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:11 PM
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I’m not blue pill. It’s not like telling someone to enjoy their disembowelment. It’s more like telling someone they can still enjoy their life after grieving some kind of loss. Life still goes on and you can find beauty and enjoyment in other areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:06 PM
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Getting a man aroused does not mean he finds you romantically attractive. At best it means he finds you sexually attractive, at worst he doesn’t find you attractive at all but you’re a better outlet for his pent up horniness than his hand. You don’t have to worry about being a subhuman genetic dead end either. Even if you are one. Focus on things you do have going for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:03 PM
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You can get social intimacy while still being celibate. If you never find a pair bond what’s next? Wallow in misery your entire life until it slowly kills you? Or do you just speed up the job yourself? Why condemn men to a life of that when they can change their thinking patterns and focus their energy into things they have that they can enjoy vs what they’re lacking and can’t change.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:02 PM
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I have empathy. I also know when things are counterproductive. If you’re genuinely that unattractive where you can’t have the sex life you want, and you’ve exhausted your options at trying to improve. What point is there to keep hyper-focusing on your misery? Why not focus your energy into other things that make you happy and enjoying your celibacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:00 PM
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People who love themselves and have high self esteem generally don’t accept maltreatment. They feel they deserve better and seek it out or create the conditions for it to find them. Or they make peace with the lack of whatever they desired and know that it’s still ok. Many abusers also know this. It’s why abusive people select for those that they do. Someone with low self-esteem will tolerate a lot more maltreatment for a lot longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 12:58 PM
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I don’t know what country you live in to give more specific advice. If your only flaw is your height try becoming a passport bro. You could try Japan, Chinese provinces like Jiangxi or Hunan, Thailand etc. Or in South America there’s Guatemala, Ecuador, Peru etc. These countries have fairly short average heights compared to most western countries. So depending on your height you’d be average or maybe even tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 12:55 PM
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Yep. Which is why many people from western nations are trying their luck in other countries to build themselves up economically.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 12:49 PM
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If men are to enjoy celibacy, then women will have to be more accepting of virgins. No virgin shaming, no bullshit excuses. They don’t. Men just have to put less stock into what women say. Many men disparage promiscuous women. Yet it doesn’t stop the existence of such women. Also, if men become comfortable with it (I myself am), then not all will be willing to jump through hoops. Time for women to be pro-active (including verbal approaches) in dating, in these changing times. They don’t have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 12:48 PM
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Most people prefer mistreatment over loneliness. This is only true if they have low self-esteem and miserable lives outside of lack of social bonds. A person is less inclined to stay in a shitty tribe if they feel they can form or join a new better one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 12:46 PM
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Why do you have to take what you can get? Focusing on other aspects of your life and enjoying celibacy until you encounter quality options is also a good approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:49 AM
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So maybe that’s a sign you need to date in another area where women are more open to being with short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:48 AM
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Most people do not want to be mistreated though. If you have self respect that will trump your desire for intimate romantic relationships in the face of no good options.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:46 AM
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Why would you want that? Vs just finding a partner that meshes with you personality wise?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 11:24 PM
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There goes over 95% of the male population. So compensate with something else. Unless you’re incel level hideous everything is a trade off. You won’t be able to bag a woman that will pay 100% of your bills and spoil you if you’re not good looking but you can still date a woman that makes more than you. I have and I’m a very average looking man. Is a proxy to looks, so 95% Have you heard of the phrase “giggling your way into the pussy” it’s not always proxy to looks. It means you’re a very enjoya…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:23 PM
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Thats it’s not humiliating or emasculating. It’s just a personality incompatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:19 PM
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A tinder profile will attract men who want to fuck you but you probably won’t orgasm so it still would fall in the juice isn’t worth the squeeze category.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:16 AM
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Men do this to women though and they just find women that are fine with it. They date submissive women who know and respect the fact that their male partner is bank rolling them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:15 AM
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Good looks, charming, good in bed, great cook, romantic, adventurous etc. Ultimately it depends on what the woman herself values. Whatever she’s looking for in a man you have to up the ante in one of the non-financial categories to still be considered. How much you have to compensate depends on how much more than you she earns. If you’re unemployed you have to have a lot more game than if you’re just one tax bracket below.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:14 AM
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You’re pro-waffle house but anti-fighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:25 PM
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Women already do date men who earn less if the man has other positive qualities about him that outweigh the “cons” of him earning less. It’ll become more prevalent if a larger proportion of men can offer things women enjoy outside of financials.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:23 PM
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A lot of women will cheat and leave and still be the one who files since 90% of the time women file for divorce Who is at fault if the wife cheats but the husband files? You really think that this is going to be a huge proportion of divorce filings since This is the likeliest explanation since 90% of the time women file for divorce? I’m not talking percentages. I’m giving different scenarios I’ve personally witnessed to demonstrate the fact that the person who filed isn’t always the one who caus…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:21 PM
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Idk, I’m not in the room with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:22 PM
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Whether or not it defaults to the mother depends on where you live. In the west there’s a lot of places where 50/50 is the default.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:21 PM
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Yep exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:20 PM
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Feedings, cleaning, diaper changing, nursing them to health while sick, drop offs, pick up, setting up their appointments, managing their extra curriculars etc. many men don’t do the bulk of these things if at all. Among those who do many are managed by their partners, meaning she tells him what to do and what time and he follows orders. Few men initiate doing tbr bulk of these tasks on their own. The only men I’ve met who do are completely single dads and 1 married man who read a lot of parenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:21 PM
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Them fighting for their kids doesn’t necessarily mean it’s in good faith. Some just don’t want to pay child support. There was one who went viral because he essentially did that, won custody and then was upset the mother would never see the son. He came online complaining about how she’d literally lie and say she was out of the country to avoid seeing their son.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:18 PM
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The men in question aren’t with women. Artificial wombs won’t change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:16 PM
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People had kids younger and they had more kids when the life expectancy was that age. So if you weren’t around your kids could take care of each other. They also didn’t have access to quality contraceptives like we do now. People these days have less kids and they have them later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:08 PM
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I suspect that’s the same with my cousin as well. He’s the only one my uncle had at an advanced age and he’s also the only one of his siblings to have mental issues. I’m not saying it’s the cause but it does make one wonder.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:06 PM
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Either way though it’s better to be safe than sorry and not have kids with a guy over 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:04 PM
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It’s not stupid. Initiating is who filed the paperwork. Not who caused the marriage to deteriorate. In these cases who caused the marriage to deteriorate?: Wife falls out of love with husband, wife files. Wife cheats on her husband, husband files. Husband abandons wife, wife files Wife beats husband husband files Husband has bad gambling addiction putting the family in massive debt. Wife files. Sometimes the person who caused the breakdown of the marriage is the same one who files/initiates but …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:55 PM
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It is easily rationalized because “I’m just not into him” can evolve into “I hate him” if you force yourself to stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:52 PM
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It is in Nevada.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:50 PM
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It’s not mischaracterization. You can buy someone that is selling themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:48 PM
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You being a psychopath makes sense I always pegged you for being more of a sociopath though. Were you diagnosed by a doctor or self diagnosed?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:47 PM
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It’s not different that’s why they say it. To further drive home the point that for most passport bros it’s a “you can’t fire me I quit” situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:43 PM
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Some of them that’s the case, others it isn’t. Some have never experienced romantic interest and they just made peace with it. Some have but they still don’t want a man again because they feel the juice isn’t worth the squeeze. Exactly like their male counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:16 AM
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Some don’t. It’s why they’re going wgtow. Their fear at dealing with bad, annoying, or troublesome men is enough to overpower their desire for men. So they completely avoid them. In the East, specifically Korea they also have things like the 4B movement which is similar to wgtow just slightly different motivations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:40 AM
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Thats awesome!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:38 AM
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Yep. So true! Kids miss their parents too when you’re away all day. It’s good to be able to spend as much time with them as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 09:54 PM
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I know women do it. I just think it’s unfortunate. I’m sure a lot of them would appreciate the extra time to heal and bond with the baby. My point was if the woman is the breadwinner and she becomes a bio mom she’s taking 2 risk. Whereas a breadwinning man would be taking 1. I was just answering the q on how it’s different. It’s not different if bio kids aren’t involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 09:44 PM
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2 weeks is not enough time to recover from the hormonal imbalance and potential physical damage from having a baby. Sometimes the stitches take longer than that to heal and be taken out. At the end of the day people can do what they want but I couldn’t stomach seeing a woman who had my child have to go back to work that quick. I’d get a 2nd or 3rd job so she can stay home at least a few months. I wouldn’t even want her to work in later pregnancy unless she wanted to. Also I think there was some …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:27 PM
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They could just be lazy too
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:04 PM
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You have to delete the “www” and replace it with np if it’s a Reddit link. Otherwise they’re going to delete it. From this comment it seems we’re in agreeance on it not being new. Seems you’re more so taking issue with what you perceive to be my feelings towards them. I was simply answering the Q on whether it’s new or a rebrand. It’s not new.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:48 PM
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aaah - I see, because just paying the tip is an empty sentiment. It means nothing, This definitely isn’t true. Tips mean a lot to service workers especially in countries where their wages are subsidized by this. If the tip isn’t paid they’re also going to think the service was bad and you’re intentionally snubbing them. Especially when you add in the “so i can FEEL LIKE i’m doing something”, so it isn’t about actually doing something, it’s about getting the feeling like you did - so idk, keep yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:21 PM
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Could be that the older profiles aren’t as active. I’ve done it where I swiped left the app then weeks or months later a woman I swiped on matched me but k never responded. To her it could look like a dry convo or me just never saying anything but I legitimately just forgot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:19 PM
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The one about “feeling like you did something”? “So basically it sounds like as long as you do 1 page at a group project, you “feel like you’re contributing” - and here is the thing, i’m not opposed to one party paying by choice, i’m just wondering why you put that obligation on the man and added the tip so she “doesn’t sound like” she’s doing nothing?”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:15 PM
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None of the above. If you want to believe men have just now started going abroad for women that’s your business. In the real world, other people know that’s not the case. Have a great one though man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:14 PM
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Well you did say you’re mostly using bumble. They have a lot of fake profiles on there. So you may not even be speaking to a real person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:00 PM
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Everything you’ve said still falls under the umbrella of sex tourism, sex Pat and mail order brides. I don’t have myself convinced of anything. Simply reading through what passport bros say of themselves shows that what they’re doing is no different than men of the past. You seem very personally offended by this. When did I say it wasn’t their business? Or that they can’t do it? My only point is they’re trying to rename/rebrand something that’s been going on for years. The only real difference i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:58 PM
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This is you claiming that an argument 'means' (i.e. logically entails) something. Nope it’s me pointing out hypocrisy. That's adding a premise to an argument (theirs) to create a new argument (yours). The full argument you're quoting uses it. So yours uses it too. Read my earlier post to see why. Mine doesn’t use it too. My comment is pointing out the holes in the others logic to display their hypocrisy. Like I said. You deny the logical consequences of the claim and you attach negative valence …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:54 PM
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I’d have to see your conversations to know what’s actually going on. Could be a plethora of things: -They swiped your profile without properly looking at it. Then they later saw something they didn’t like and ghosted. -They we’re down to converse with you but they felt there wasn’t enough chemistry to continue. -They wanted to converse with you but something you said was a turn off. -They thought OLD was a good idea then suddenly changed their mind because of changes in mood/life circumstances. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:47 PM
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“Nah, lots of articles attempt to garner sympathy for them and say the African/Carribbean men are exploiting those hapless women for their own gain.” This is the claim made. I asked what articles are doing this. You linked me one about a women getting hyped up for a book she wrote after her sham marriage ended.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:42 PM
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It is sex tourism. They’re going overseas for the express purpose of hooking up with women. Some go to find a foreign wife and bring her back, others go to find a foreign wife and stay there. Relabeling it as being a “passport bro” just sounds nicer to them but they’re doing the exact same thing as sexpats, sex tourists and men with mail order brides. I didn’t say it’s an easy mode option. Sex tourism isn’t easy mode unless you’re only paying prostitutes. If you’re trying to find free hookups it…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:39 PM
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They still could be. One thing many men forget is that above all else you’re competing with a woman’s peace with herself. They assume they’re competing with other men. A woman could have little to no suitors and still reject a man that comes her way because her life as a single woman(yes even without orbiters) is still preferable to what being in a relationship with that man would entail. Have you ever heard of hyper independence? It’s one reason women you’d deem undesirable still seem so “picky…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:38 PM
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And this has what to do with celebrating western women as a whole for going overseas? Looks like they’re celebrating her for her books sales and getting over her sham marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:35 PM
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This is you claiming that an argument 'means' (i.e. logically entails) something. Nope it’s me pointing out hypocrisy. That's adding a premise to an argument (theirs) to create a new argument (yours). The full argument you're quoting uses it. So yours uses it too. Read my earlier post to see why. Mine doesn’t use it too. My comment is pointing out the holes in the others logic to display their hypocrisy. Like I said. You deny the logical consequences of the claim and you attach negative valence …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:32 PM
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That’s not a news article.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:21 PM
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What happens if her job doesn’t offer maternity leave? Even if she takes it how do they split the bio risk? He carries the baby half the pregnancy and she carries it another half?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:20 PM
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Again, this isn’t true. Men still have preferences. It’s why in the US certain types of women aren’t the most preferred but if they go to a different country they’ll have a better experience. Why is that? Despite men like healthy natural young women there’s still aspects that are socially influenced. What is considered a natural “beauty” varies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:19 PM
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Aren’t you the one that made that comment though?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:17 PM
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They are if they’re the families breadwinner. If the man divorces them they lose assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:16 PM
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That definitely is the case. The stuff passport bros are doing isn’t new at all. The only new aspect is them having social media to discuss it and share their complaints. The other aspects of it have been going on for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:16 PM
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There is. They don’t want to see them. Which is why we’re at the point now where the spaces are segregated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:14 PM
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They’re not saying the same thing. That’s why one is celebrated and the other isn’t. Also most of the celebration of women is coming from other women. Men respond with apathy or negativity. Men celebrating other men would balance the scales in terms of reactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:20 PM
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This isn’t fully true what kind of natural healthy young women that men want varies based on social influence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:19 PM
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Unless you have an immutable characteristic that’s holding the you back you can almost always look better. Especially with cosmetic procedures coming as far as they have. You can get a better hair cut, get in better shape, dress better, pay to fix your teeth, your hairline, your skin etc. there’s a lot of aspects of your looks that are within your control.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:17 PM
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There’s no difference unless they’re having bio kids. If they’re having bio kids she’s taking the financial risk and the fertility risk. Whereas a rich man just takes the financial risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:14 PM
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The same things a man has to lose and more. Money,time and years of her fertile window if she wants bio kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:13 PM
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They would’ve been radicalized regardless. The only difference is how many people they take down with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:04 PM
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They’re not all gone. They’re just not on Reddit. They still have them on other platforms
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:00 PM
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Probably. Plenty of people do. Or after the first 3. The issue we’re talking about is “fairness” in paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:59 PM
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That’s not an article. It’s a movie and there’s movies about men falling in love cross culturally as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:58 PM
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Some don’t want men at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:58 PM
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It was and I'm not. It wasn’t and you are. Someone else used it as a premise in an argument So you are confusing me with someone else. Or seems you know who it is and chose to conflate us anyway. (A1). You added more steps to that argument to create new argument (A2). The conclusion of your A2 is that A1 is unsound. So you used that example.* To recap: False: I went off on my own point(s) in response to a comment about pick mes throwing women under the bus vs women being a monolith. ⁠The example…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:57 PM
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Nope. They’re not limiting their personality. Simply limiting what they do to you. Like the viral cake smashing example. A lot of people don’t like that for various reasons. So they ask their partners not to do it to them. Does it mean they can no longer do it to people that like it? No, it just means don’t do it to people who don’t like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:56 PM
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I've definitely had quality relationships and have had a high quality marriage for a long time now, because that's what I prioritize, as it should be, as relationships and love are essentially the meaning of life, in my opinion. Prioritizing one thing doesn’t mean completely neglecting or abandoning another. It sounds like I was correct in assuming you don’t have healthy friendships. I think that more of the people on this sub should be taking advice from me and from the others here who have exa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:54 PM
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No they have low self esteem. Being delusional goes out the window once you get where you wanted to go and realize it doesn’t pan out like it did in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:45 PM
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It’s not. Someone who can’t respect your simply boundaries most likely won’t respect the more complex ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:44 PM
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What articles? And I’d reckon they’re in a similar sense to the ones sympathetically warning men of lethal honey traps abroad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:43 PM
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They’re not depicted as victims. They’re viewed as creepy old women at worst or desperate lonely old women at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:50 PM
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It’s dead and gone. Some people have boundaries and if you disrespect them even if you find it trivial that’s a red flag that you don’t respect your partner and you are an abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:46 PM
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It depends on what you’re comparing? Finding a partner? Men have it harder. Bringing a family to fruition once you have a partner? Women have it harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:27 PM
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This is not true. Men and women in most countries aren’t that far apart in terms of physical appearance/being overweight. A dude could have a nice beard but a lot of them are still overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:26 PM
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Yes, and? Following suit. So you admit that the vast majority of women you will date in the US will actually have access to free birth control? Nope. It’s not free if they’re paying for health insurance. They have to pay for the insurance to get the birth control or pay for birth control out of pocket if they’re uninsured and don’t meet the income requirements to qualify for charitable services. Whereas a man can just walk into a community clinic, college campus or apparently sign up to receive …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:15 PM
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Don’t you live in the United States? You were using birth control stats from the US. All I said was condoms were free for the uninsured while birth control and abortions generally are not. The US isn’t the only country where this is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:10 PM
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I don’t live in the United States.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:07 PM
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Most women I have dated/will date do not have access to free birth control. They had/have to pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:03 PM
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It’s not my opinion it’s fact. Condoms are free for the uninsured.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:59 PM
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Nope. I stand by my correct statement. Women pay more cost for sex literally and figuratively. So men can pay for the date. If she doesn’t want to sleep with him, split it. I’m not recanting this. I don’t live in California btw
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:58 PM
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They’re sex tourists, sexpats and men getting mail order brides just rebranded. There’s not much new apart from them having social media to publicly share their grievances about western women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:55 PM
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Majority don’t where I live. You have to pay for it and if BC fails they’ll have to pay for the abortion so I’ll stand by my statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:49 PM
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Yep it’s because they’re hurt. Just like Women do when they were hurt, men also lash out at unrelated parties. They’re devaluing women in the way they feel devalued.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:47 PM
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“Condoms are free even if you have no health insurance.”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:45 PM
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It’s a red flag because you don’t know if the person is using this “humor” as a way of boundary testing what level of disrespect you’re willing to take to gauge how good of a victim you’ll be. Some people certainly do have edgy humor but the true tell is when they’re more comfortable around you how do they respond to you saying a joke is too far for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:41 PM
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So then they have low self esteem for clinging on to someone who doesn’t like or want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:18 PM
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It’s because 9/10 it’s not being asked to actually get an answer. It’s being asked to humble women. A woman could literally bring the moon and the stars, everything from the ends of the earth and it would be deemed irrelevant because “that’s not what men want from women”. 1/10 times a man is asking sincerely because he’s sincerely looking for a compatible partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:47 AM
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Not necessarily. If I tell a joke in front of 100 allistic people and 98 don’t get the joke but 2 do. Does that now mean 98 people suddenly are autistic? Conversely you could argue you need to be autistic to get the joke. It could be that you are autistic and one of your hyper fixations/special interests is the internet gender war so you’re more likely to pick up on nuanced jokes requiring gender war context than people who aren’t as tuned in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:04 AM
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It’s not creepy. It can give context for someone’s views. You can always adjust your privacy settings if you don’t want people to see what you’ve publicly posted for public viewing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:01 AM
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So? Women who can relate to certain issues get called future called ladies, bitches, misandrist feminists etc. Is your issue that you want everyone to like you and you don’t? Or that you can’t find a community of people with similar issues to vent to? The latter you can do something about. The former will probably never change.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:01 AM
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Definitely doesn't give them the ick. Never seen a man recoil or withdraw at a woman expressing interest in him unless that woman was really gross/creepy. They don’t physically recoil. They’re flattered but then they just don’t want to date her. So they’ll be lukewarm. It’s not a visceral physical response. Only then will they go shrivel and go "ewwwww." You should stop using that word to describe every single act that isn't accepted - it specifically refers to disgust and repulsion. Nah. Honest…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:59 AM
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Condoms are free even if you have no health insurance. Not the case for birth control and abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:57 AM
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No that’s a misunderstanding. The passive thing was in response to the claim that men are pursuing clearly disinterested women. I was trying to say that the women they’re pursuing aren’t disinterested, they’re just passive. Meaning they’re into the man pursuing them and will appreciate and accept the his pursuit. They’re just not going to be the one to court him. Does that make sense? If not I can explain further. For men’s interest to grow he has to be attracted to the woman, like her personali…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:12 AM
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They appreciate in the sense that it gives an ego boost but she still gives them the ick. That’s why you’ll see them breadcrumb or ignore a woman that’s heavily pursuing them, but if she goes ghost they may express more interest. Vs. them pursuing a making a big effort for a woman they’re really into.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:04 AM
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Very true!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:57 AM
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That’s not far from saying that. Men pursue and do a lot for women they like and are attracted to. The same man could drive an hour to see one women but say driving more than 10 minutes to see another is too far. What’s the difference? How into woman A he is vs woman B.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:50 AM
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Yeah, I don't think like most men. Relationships come first, not friendships. If he were doing it to pursue some woman who obviously wasn't interested in him, though (my definition of "simping"), then I'd probably try to talk to him to get him to see some sense. I’m not talking about relationships. I’m talking about early dating stages. Where it’s just talking, flirting etc. maybe you’ve been on a first date already maybe it’s a situationship but not a full blown relationship. For example an acq…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:48 AM
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Like women, men want to be pursued by those they find attractive. If they find the woman attractive they will pursue her. A lot of attractive women do not pursue men because they do not need to. Exactly because men pursue women they find attractive You may think men’s attraction increases towards those he’s pursuing but that is far from the truth. There may be a correlation but there is no causation effect between a man’s attraction and the effort he is putting in. If you say so. His attraction …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:39 AM
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It is force because if someone does want to give it to me you are setting up legal consequences for if I accept it. Abortion is not universally illegal. Women can go to countries or states where it is legal and get one but then they potentially risk facing legal ramifications in their home state/country if they are caught. This is coercion. Using legal threats to try and force pregnant women to give birth even though someone elsewhere is willing to perform the abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:37 AM
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By enforcing consequences for me if I get what I want from someone else. Specifically in the context of abortion the ban isn’t simply “not giving what you want” it’s being disallowed from seeking it out anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:39 AM
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A lot of young people are having trouble dating because they get the ick so fast. The woman in the TikTok isn’t young though. She just have a very specific kind of man she wants to date in mind. So it seems whenever a guy deviates from the ideal in her head her instinct is to run/ghost.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:37 AM
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Have you ever stopped to think just like how from men’s pov they’re being nice to men from a woman’s pov they’re being mean to them? Imagine you had a friend that always flaked on your plans to chase validation from a woman he just met. To that woman he might be a nice guy or “nice guy” but to you he’d be a simp or a bad friend. Similar thing happens with women. A woman may act a way that men thinks is great because it benefits men but women don’t see it the same because it negatively impacts th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:36 AM
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How so? Your point seems to be women want men no matter what, but they only want specific men. I don’t agree. Wgtow exist but it’s entirely dependent on how high their libido is and how well their friends meet their emotional needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:02 AM
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That’s not true. It could be force if coercion is involved in you not giving me what I want. So specifics are needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:01 AM
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I’ll have to look into it more but doing some brief research on it, it doesn’t seem too far fetched. I’ll also look into what you said as well about the increased violence because that’s an interesting point. single sex schools impact on sexual orientation “However, single-sex schooling appears to have a transient effect on sexual orientation during secondary school. For exam-ple, Wellings etal. (1994) found that in males only, partici-pants who attended single-sex schools reported more same-sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:59 PM
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Because "I'm not like the other girls" was your example of a 'pick me' thing to say. No it wasn’t. I think you’re confusing me with someone else. My examples were the following: Mothers who’ll ignore a molester step dad as long as he sticks around for her romantically. Women who humiliate their friends to curry favor with men. Women who abandon their friends at clubs and bars to go off with men/a man when it was previously agreed everyone would stick together unless proper notice check in was do…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:29 PM
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It’s not a simple yes or no because we’re not having the same discussion. Context is needed to be specific. What do I want that you’re denying me? What are the consequences of the denial? Are the natural or fabricated consequences etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:23 PM
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That’s not necessarily true because. Not all women get this from their female friends. Some women don’t have female friends at all. Then there’s women who do get this from their female friends but they still have sexual urges. All three cases would result in a woman seeking out male companionship. The only thing is how desperately they’ll be seeking it. If their friends are meeting most of their needs they won’t be as hard pressed to get a boyfriend/husband as a woman who doesn’t have those thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:22 PM
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Women tend to be more sexually fluid than men so I’d guess that they’re more likely to enter into pseudo lesbian relationships for the duration of time that they have no access to men. Similar to how some girls behave at isolated all girls schools. They’re “lesbian” until they graduate and have access to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:20 PM
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They are providing the companionship men would. Taking each other out and taking turns picking up the bill, sending each other food deliveries for lunch just because, getting each other random little gifts, cuddling, holding hands etc. Both things are at play.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:16 PM
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If I coerce into doing something that isa form of force. It goes beyond you not giving it to me. It’s you not giving it to me then threatening legal action/prison time if I get it from someone who will. That is force. It’s like if I don’t want you to drive. So not only do I refuse to let you drive my car but I also imprison you for driving someone else’s car who was willing to let you use it. That’s force. You can argue that it’s justified or unjustified but it doesn’t change the fact that it’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:14 PM
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So he jumped the gun on making his joke before the set up was ready and then it fell flat?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:13 PM
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A lot of women are doing exactly this. Building platonic families with their female friends
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:12 PM
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So they have to be isolated from even friends and family to compare to how free/non-imprisoned but sexually unsuccessful men are?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:05 PM
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Yes they did. They forced you to give birth by using coercive action to prevent you from having an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:02 PM
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Coercion could be used to apply force. Which is what criminalizing abortions do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:01 PM
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Their post history was relevant as it added context to their beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:59 PM
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It is because of this too. If your friends are meeting all your emotional and companionship needs, including the ones a boyfriend would provide, the only thing left to seek from men is sex. If you don’t have a high libido or aren’t extremely attracted to the guy there’s no reason to go out looking for that. Knowing you can get a man any time is just another compounding layer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:58 PM
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This is a big one. I realized just how true it was when I met a group of women that are incredibly emotionally enmeshed with each other. Which ironically I think it a big part of what is also causing them to remain single. Any guy that one of them tries to date gets measured up against how they(the girl friends) treat each other. Which is sensible sometimes but illogical in others. If the guy is clearly an asshole drop him, but at the same time you can’t expect a man to be as emotionally in tune…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:57 PM
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Know your audience. If the convo is lighthearted and fun and that’s all that particular group discusses when it comes to dating perhaps they’re not the group to talk to about more serious issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:51 PM
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So converse with other men who can relate
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:51 PM
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Sex isn’t guaranteed. Just because you pay for a meal doesn’t guarantee you sex. Women will be the first to tell you that. Which is why splitting the check is a good way to let a man know you don’t want to continue seeing him. If every guy paid and it ended in sex there would be silence from men. Men would still complain because they don’t want to pay for women they’re not into, but who they’d still sleep with anyway. Instead many dates end up being blocked or ghosted after shelling out hundreds…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:40 PM
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You wrote all this yet women are calling women they don't know online pick me's. Just like men call other men they don’t know online simps. Context matters. Did they come online over sharing a situation where they were clearly in the wrong while lacking the self awareness to see it? Or is it another case of a term being overused in a way that strays from its actual definition. Either way, doesn’t change what the terms mean at their core. I don't need to repeat what I said. They blame simps for i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:38 PM
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Going on the date and having heterosexual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:33 PM
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Yes, because if women are a monolith, they disagree with one another, correct? Saying that you don't like the way that women move and being called a "pick me" as a slur seems to be contrary to this because there is some underlying expectation of "girl code" or that women's behavior shouldn't be criticized as not good for men. Meaning women should act as a monolith to protect one another from being single. So you either are or you aren't. This is you assuming that the issue is simple disagreement…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:31 PM
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So let's recap and let me be clear since you've picked up this defense - you've decided to defend the original responders blatant contradiction that 1) pick me women throw other women under the bus and 2) pick mes don't impact other women because women don't associate with them. Incorrect. I’ve decided to challenge your claim that use of the term pick me is only valid if you view women as a monolith. Your reluctance to use this same metric when validating the use of the word dump. The impact pic…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:09 PM
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Just like women who see common ground with men aren’t pick mes. Both terms are overused/incorrectly used. However the og meaning has validity
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:07 PM
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It’s not trifling at all. For some people personality compatibility is part of attraction. This can deepen or destroy whatever you felt from the physical attraction. In her case it was destroyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:00 PM
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By this definition pick mes still would be throwing other women under the bus. Examples of it would be a girl leaving her inebriated friend to go off with a man when it was previously agreed they’d stick together. Or pretending her friend isn’t her friend because she thinks it will win her points with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:58 PM
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No it isn't. You're simply trying to make the same argument, switching genders, to make it fit your response. Nope. It fits by your own metric. You’re ignoring how it does because you don’t want to acknowledge the parallels. Pick me’d benefit men much how simps benefit women. So it’s very understandable why you’d want to dispel any arguments against a group of women you find beneficial. It's about pedestalizing women. And yes, doing so makes the dating market harder. But that's hardly throwing m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:54 PM
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Would you consider the following to fit under that definition: A woman maliciously making fun of her friend when men are around who doesn’t act like that normally. A man making embarrassing and untrue statements about his friend when women are around.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:53 PM
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No it isn't. You're simply trying to make the same argument, switching genders, to make it fit your response. Nope. It fits by your own metric. You’re ignoring how it does because you don’t want to acknowledge the parallels. Pick me’d benefit men much how simps benefit women. So it’s very understandable why you’d want to dispel any arguments against a group of women you find beneficial. It's about pedestalizing women. And yes, doing so makes the dating market harder. But that's hardly throwing m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:47 PM
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Women are not a monolith, so women can choose to do what they want. Everyone thinks differently under this? So exactly how is it throwing women under the bus when you've accepted women should be viewed for their diversity of thought? First what exactly do you think it means to throw someone under the bus? Understanding what you are interpreting this term to mean would aid in driving this discussion forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:41 PM
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This does not follow at all. Simps can be simps if they want, but no one argues they are throwing other men under the bus (impacting men directly). It does follow since it is argued that simps throw other men under the bus among other things. Even just in this sub simps frequently get the blame for “making dating harder for other men” by “falsely inflating women’s egos”. This falls under the umbrella of directly impacting men/throwing other men under the bus. They are criticized for pedestalizin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:40 PM
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It goes beyond simple disagreement. The term pick me is misused just like simp. However the OG meanings have validity. Pick me women are adversarial to other women at best and dangerous to people in their lives(outside of the man they want attention from) at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:36 PM
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So why are you using that as a metric to validate aversion to pick mes but not for simps?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:32 PM
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Let me repeat what you said: “Women scream "we are not a monolith". There's absolutely nothing wrong with throwing another woman under the bus under this view.” This means criticism of simps is also invalid unless you believe men are a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:31 PM
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Do you believe men are a monolith?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:27 PM
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False. You can acknowledge that women aren’t a monolith while not throwing someone under the bus.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:26 PM
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They are when you’re friends with them. They don’t impact your life if you are not in close proximity to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:25 PM
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Same with men and simps. Do you bash men who use this term?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:24 PM
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It’s not absurd it’s something that unfortunately happens. I also have a second example of women who are age mates being lured/left in unsafe situations by their pick me friends. Ignoring that shows the level you’re on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:24 PM
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Maybe that’s not true for you but for a lot of men sex is the top or only priority and they will explicitly say it. There’s some that aren’t so brazen but their action reveal their motives. They often reject female companionship if it doesn’t come with sex but they will accept sex that doesn’t come with female companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:15 PM
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The point they’re making it that there is little difference between a platonic female friend and a girlfriend other than sex. So if female companionship was what they wanted and not sex, they wouldn’t be opposed to having women as friends. In reality they want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:07 PM
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? How is this the case if the data is allegedly saying that a woman who has had more flings is less likely to cheat?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:02 PM
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Adult men. They don’t pursue clearly disinterested women. They pursue interested but passive women. Never heard of that book. I’m going based off observing mens behaviors. When men really like a woman they do the most for her. If they don’t she can pursue and shower him with affection all she wants but that’s not changing his feelings. He’ll certainly use her though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:57 PM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:43 PM
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She’s doing more pages. Are you splitting the cost of her birth control when you sleep together?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:41 PM
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There’s more risk on the woman and the man is most likely pursuing her. Him paying for the first date balances it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:40 PM
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It is equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:40 PM
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Most men do not want to abstain from sex. The volume of men dating for sex primarily vs exclusively is higher than the volume of women doing so. I wouldn’t say it’s most men but it’s more men doing so than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:39 PM
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We like them. I only do drinks if I’m not that into the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:38 PM
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Not all women want equal partnership and equality looks like different things to different people. Like housework. One person cooking and the other doing the dishes and putting away left overs vs both doing all of those tasks. Both options are equality, yet they’re not exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:36 PM
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The fact that so many get the ick from women do pursue them and chase after women who don’t. The same logic that’s used to deduce that women have sex fast if they like the guy is being used here. “Men pursue, plan and provide when they like the woman.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:33 PM
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Pick mes don’t try to find common ground with men. They worship men. They’re the type that would have a molester step dad in the house and then tell their kids “you’re ruining my last chance at love” if they confide in her about the sexual abuse. Or they’re the type that would leave or invite their girl friends in dangerous situations for a crumb of male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:11 PM
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Yeah if she asked him out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:09 PM
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Maybe. I’d have to watch all the TikTok’s to see. He could’ve also been the one to ask her out but then had no plan. It’s like someone saying they’re planning a surprise bday party for you only to turn around and expect you to make the plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:04 PM
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The inability to plan a date is what caused her lack of attraction. Which is why she dumped him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:23 PM
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They are treated like humans. Humans are apathetic to people they don’t have emotional investment in.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:58 AM
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So why is he struggling? Surely his money and looks should offset his bad personality traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:52 AM
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So then why is this good looking rich guy striking out? Surely his looks should save him?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:39 PM
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They all probably had long histories of getting rejected in between finding those boyfriends and husbands too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:38 PM
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It comes into compatibility for casual sex as well. You can be the hottest man alive but it’s not going to help you if your personality dries her pussy up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:37 PM
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I doubt OPs friend has Elon level money. So he doesn’t have enough going for him to cancel out his awkward unattractive traits like Elon does
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:35 PM
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I agree. But why are we saying that if there is an issue then it's on men to pay? She made the choice, she chose to have sex with him, she chose not to use contraceptives, she chose not to use the morning after pill, she chose not to have an abortion, and she chose not to put the kid up for adoption. He’s the one that sired the child so he should pay for what the mother can’t. He chose to have sex with her, he chose not to use protection, he chose to sleep with a woman with all those risk’s with…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:28 PM
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It's control when you don't start out with respect for another adult's choices. Then by this logic you could also make the argument that older men are trying to control older women. These crazy church ladies aren't exposing anything but their own instability. See above.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:18 PM
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No problem
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:17 PM
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Is it control or is it sharing information? Can both be occurring because different older women have differing intentions? You cool also argue that older men are trying to control older women because they don’t want their game exposed. So they’re employing manipulative tactics to keep women from sharing useful information.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 11:57 AM
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It is cheaper. To society in general yes. That’s what I’ve been speaking on in this specific aspect. Having the bio father pick up the mothers financial slack is cheaper for society/tax payers than having the mother receive benefits. To the actual father no. Between paying for a kid and not paying for a kid, not paying is always going to be cheaper. Just as women are told they should’ve chosen better when they complain about being single mothers (widows and rape victims being the exception) the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 11:55 AM
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If he’s dead or they can’t find him it would fall back to the default of the state paying. If he left the country that would depend on which country he’s in. From my understanding some countries you still have to pay child support for your overseas children and there’s systems in place to foster collecting on this. It’s very complicated though and not a universal thing. At the end of the day the state is paying when the mother can’t. However some of this can be mitigated if the bio father is ali…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:53 AM
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Yes very true. It is too deep for PPD. There would need to be a lot more investigation into it. Things like whether or not the bio fathers of these children make enough to where they could pay enough child support to put the mom over the limit for food stamps. Plus if they do have that money would they pay or would they try to evade. Or if her state factors in child support as income and his doesn’t or vice versa which states standards would take precedence? etc. It’s a lot to think about. I cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:45 AM
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I figured it was just a misunderstanding. It’s like alimony. It differs depending on where you live. One state might do lifetime alimony where another might set time limits. My only point in bringing it up in this discussion is that a DNA database could be a systematic benefit. Maybe not in your state if they don’t factor in child support when determining eligibility for benefits. In mine though it would make a difference because finding the bio fathers and having them pay could save the state m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:35 AM
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You don’t have to be a virgin to be turned off by casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:22 AM
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But you can have sex without it being casual or short term. So there’s definitely a deeper meaning. There’s a reason people engage in casual short term sex vs more intimate sex with longer term partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:21 AM
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Again, it could be different where you live but where I live it does impact SNAP eligibility. I’ll copy and paste my supporting evidence here.Stand by. Edit: https://standupwireless.com/blog-can-i-get-food-stamps-while-on-child-support/#:~:text=Although%20it%20is%20nontaxable%20income,support%20payments%20as%20gross%20income. “Although it is nontaxable income, SNAP counts child support payments as gross income. This means you must add it to any other income you have when determining if you’re el…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:13 AM
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It does where I live. They count child support as income. If the amount of child support being received puts the total income above the qualifying income you’re not getting it. https://standupwireless.com/blog-can-i-get-food-stamps-while-on-child-support/#:~:text=Although%20it%20is%20nontaxable%20income,support%20payments%20as%20gross%20income. “Although it is nontaxable income, SNAP counts child support payments as gross income. This means you must add it to any other income you have when deter…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:10 AM
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It is cheaper. Maybe things work differently where you live. Where I live though child support is counted as income and it impacts your eligibility for certain government benefits. I think we’re in agreement with the bio father thing. That’s why I’m in favor of the DNA database for all men with mandatory paternity testing. It would put the costs that the mother can’t cover on the biological father.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:08 AM
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They are going to suffer from their parents bad decisions regardless you’re not stopping that. Perhaps not in every case but it can be stop if there’s proper early intervention. That’s why I’m many western countries there’s so many social safety nets in place for children who are unfortunately born to shit parents. Child support doesn’t suddenly make or break that and I have no idea what you’re basing that on. It has an impact. The more the parents provide for the child, the less taxpayer money …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:06 AM
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You realize a lot of the time the women who are throwing the fits are young themselves right? Heck some of the cases I’ve seen they’re not even women yet. They’re teenage girls passing judgement on a young model or upcoming actress they like for dating an “old” man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 11:57 PM
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Oh well. Not everyone will like you in this world. If what you’re doing looks shady when it actually isn’t people who care enough will try to find out more before settling on a judgment. People who don’t will judge at first glance. The latter category don’t matter because you probably wouldn’t want them in your life anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 11:55 PM
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Men are men. But the bs that can come with a large age gap relationship can be different than one where both parties are similar ages. So it’s good to know what to look out for.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 11:54 PM
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Every older woman was 18-25 once. The game doesn’t change that much. It’s naive to think all or even most younger men who pursue younger women have that younger woman’s best intentions at heart. Those older women know they were pursued by older men with bad intentions so they’re warning younger women. There are definitely bitter older women but some of them are actually giving younger women solid advice. At the end of the day, it’s up to younger women to decide what advice she will take and what…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 11:51 PM
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It isn’t irrelevant. It’d be cheaper if the actual father is providing for the child. Many of the costs you listed can be offset by the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 11:48 PM
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There is a reason. To find the paternity of those kids. They didn’t choose who they were sired by and born to. So they shouldn’t suffer the consequences of their parents bad decisions. If mandatory paternity tests will become a thing, take it all the way and do right by the children.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 11:46 PM
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This works if the guys is at least slightly above average looking. I can’t imagine this working when the man is ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:11 PM
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A couple reasons although others are a possibility: They do meet these kinds of women but if something is actually wrong with her they’ll run or pump and dump because the red flags are just too much. To the point where only the most desperate or destitute man would go for that. They meet and nothing is wrong with the woman besides her lack of self-esteem. However because she thinks she’s worthless she’ll go for men she feels match how she views herself. So if you’re even marginally above that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:10 PM
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I think that because frequently on this sub men complain about majority of women chasing the same top 20% of men. In either looks, money or status(maybe even some combination of the 3 if not all 3). So when you see women going for men who are abysmally sub par in all 3 of the categories men here claim nearly all women prioritize(some straight up just say all). That leads to questioning what’s going on in those dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:07 PM
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That doesn’t make any sense. Then the excuse would be she’s leaving because the spark is dead or something of the sort. Not because she’s sick of his toxic behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:05 PM
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Maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:04 PM
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Self-esteem issue would be my first guess. The other two options make sense as well though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:48 AM
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In my opinion it seems like desperation to have any kind of guy. It’s not so much that there’s good things about the man but that the woman has a lot going on where she can’t do better or she believes she can’t do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:46 AM
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I’m bisexual. So I definitely can judge a man’s attractiveness. Plus the running gag here is that a good body, nice face and tall is what makes an attractive man. Some of these dudes are farrrrrr below that and still pull nurse type women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:45 AM
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A lot of them aren’t though. They’ve always looked questionable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:44 AM
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How do you know they think they’re better than op? What are you judging that based on?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:27 AM
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That says more about men’s desperation than anything. What would a woman get out of sleeping with an unattractive man? A man has somewhat of a chance of getting an orgasm if he sleeps with an unattractive woman but for women the chances of that are slim to none.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:27 AM
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But men don’t do that though. They soft or hard reject things from women that they don’t like or things that are detrimental to men. So why be surprised when women do the same? There’s limits to empathy. Most people aren’t going to set themselves on fire to keep someone else warm.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:14 AM
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You’re not seriously saying this on a sub where men blame xyz for their misfortunes? Men here take just as much responsibility as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:12 AM
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Getting used or in self isolation from men because they’re jaded over being used. Abusive men are very good at sniffing those types out. It’s similar to how abusive women can tell which men is a perfect target.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:11 AM
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If she enjoys a toxic man why would she get bored of him?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:10 AM
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What’s the deal with the ones going for losers that aren’t even attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:08 AM
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Why would they do that when accepting the behavior is detrimental to their lives? There won’t be mass scale inter gender acceptance. At best you’ll find acceptance on an individual level if you’re lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:06 AM
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I don’t think OP views it as a bad thing. They want to rationalize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:03 AM
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It matters to you but the point of the question for the men asking it is often to humble the woman. They don’t care if she pulled the moon from the sky. There is no right answer for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:27 PM
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Nope 60% you don’t have to be picky to have sex in exchange for something.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:07 AM
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The type of men who ask this also say there’s no value in the personality, accomplishments, finances, labor or sex women can provide them as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 05:32 AM
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It’s because the men who ask it generally don’t care because they aren’t looking for a real answer. It’s just meant to humble the woman they’re asking. Men who genuinely want to know what the woman brings ask a series of different questions to get that answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 05:31 AM
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That would make 60% of men prostitutes too by this logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 05:28 AM
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It was hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 09:16 PM
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Why would opening herself up to it make her dirty if the act of taking a penis itself wasn’t dirty?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 08:27 PM
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She would just have to drug you. Which is a thing that happens. Grown men get raped by women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 08:25 PM
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Agreed, unless it's done towards a woman that they feel has deserved it or earned it. In other words, the problem is not the act of being petty or immature, it's whether they have a valid target or justification for being petty and immature. What do you mean with these two statements? I’m sincerely asking because I know sometimes comments can read as sarcasm when they’re not. I'm sure there are some high-class women who don't engage in drama, don't engage in gossip, don't engage in backstabbing …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 03:56 PM
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Sounds like rules based around secretly hating others is pretty darn emotionally immature. If the actors in a game were emotionally mature they wouldn't need rules like this, the fact there are these rules tends to indicate to me there are a lot of players in this game who are emotionally immature, and that being emotionally immature is so common it's basically the rule rather than the exception. They would because not everyone is emotionally mature. Some people will stay around those they don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 03:38 PM
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The jealous person is the one that ends up being cut off, not the one deemed emotionally immature. I don't want the response to get too long but I can explain w/examples if need be. For girls and women if they view another girl/woman as immature or they’ll ignore them initially. If the girl being iced out continuously tries to befriend them they’ll start bullying her. It’ll be subtle at first giving each other “the look and laughing whenever the isolated woman/girl” says something. Being very di…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 03:37 PM
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But for some reason this emotional immaturity, this petty tit-for-tat for imagined emotional slights, is the basis of how women think about and act in interpersonal relationships, despite it being immature as fuck. Not tit for tat. Just deprioritizing those who don’t prioritize you. If they’re not overly vile they get downgraded to an acquaintance. Someone you talk to and hang out with on occasion but nothing deeper than that. Or if it’s the transgression was very vile they get completely cut of…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 02:44 PM
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I'm less concerned with engagement as I am for the reasoning behind the judgement. Everyone is free to associate or not with whoever they want, I think it's important to understand why they believe what they believe though. Why? This is essentially trying to push the male standard of judgment as the default instead of just accepting that men and women have their own means of judging. Women have their own and men have their own. Neither is the default for the other. My issue is how women issue th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 02:44 PM
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How is it bad faith when it’s literally parroting rp Rhetoric?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 12:37 AM
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There’s not that many of them. In the US about 40% of men identify as feminists compared to 61% of women. Even if all feminist women dated feminist men that still leaves a large pool of left over women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 12:27 AM
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25
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 12:25 AM
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The tradwife isn’t wrong. It’s just mislabeled. “Trad girlfriend wife in name only” is more accurate but that’s a mouthful.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 12:25 AM
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Regular men and that definitely is the case. Men consider personality of course but they also priority beauty and youth. So if they have 3 options that are fairly equally compatible in terms of personality they’ll pick the prettiest one
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 12:24 AM
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Did I not say it depends on where you live? What country are you from? 28% is about a third. That’s nothing to sneeze at. In the US 34% of women 18-44 are obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 12:23 AM
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My point though is that men and women have a different standard for what constitutes emotional immaturity, and there are lots of behaviours that men consider emotionally immature that women are 100% accepting of from other women, while there are behaviours that according to men are emotionally mature, but that women judge as emotionally immature because they don't like it or don't understand it. This has little to do with women though. The reason you feel there is an imbalance is because men are…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 12:17 AM
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Women also get punished out of jealousy and out of competition, so it's not just due to emotional immaturity. Some women get socially iced out for emotionally unacceptable behaviour, but there is still lots of acceptable behaviour that is emotionally immature from the perspective of men. I'm not talking about instances where that is at play. I'm talking about purely where the woman being iced out is deemed too immature to be a good friend. When it's jealously women try to sabotage the person the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:54 PM
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Maturity and decorum towards those women. Around those women. It doesn’t even have to be towards them. If you do something below the standard in the presence of those women that’s enough to get a woman iced out. Even if the women in question weren’t the target of their immature behavior. If the other women get second hand embarrassment or the ick from seeing what she’s done she gets iced out. I agree with you generally, just that the level of maturity and decorum depends on how mature those wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:54 PM
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Depending on what country you live in most women are overweight, a smaller but still considerable amount probably morbidly so. Excluding them dwindles down your options considerably. Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing if you’re attractive enough to be able to do so. This doesn’t seem to be the case for you though. So your best bet is to travel or relax your weight standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:07 PM
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Nothing happened to it. If the choices are between three 2’s and a 4 most men will choose the 4. Is it an abundance of choice? No, but it’s still a choice. The 4 is still the prettiest in that group. Being a playboy would be if you messed around with all four options. Simply choosing the most attractive you can get isn’t necessarily being a playboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:05 PM
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If you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:03 PM
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Most men can afford them. Since most have them. You know which kinds of women repulse you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:49 PM
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What are your standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:43 PM
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It’s not wishful thinking. Undesirable women probably find you attractive as well but you exclude them for the best option. Your best option may not even be all that attractive but she’s better than the rejects.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:40 PM
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Women have a strong in-group bias in favour of other women, and men have a weak out-group bias in favour of women too. Women still have standards they expect other women to meet. If a woman can’t meet them she gets iced out socially from other women. One of those is a certain expected level of maturity and decorum. A woman failing to meet those will meet ire where a man would receive apathy but on the flip side a woman succeeding in meeting those standards would be welcome with inclusion where a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:39 PM
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The premise I'm starting from is that women tolerate emotional immaturity from other women in a way they do not tolerate emotional immaturity from men. I disagree with this premise. Women are equally intolerable of immaturity from men as they are from women. The only exception is if the man is attractive or bonded to her in some way. Then they tolerate immature men more than they would immature women. Generally speaking though they are intolerable of both. It's not that women as a whole are more…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:39 PM
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Oh sister.It would still exist. Plenty of people here can attract options with ease yet they still come here to complain about behaviors of the opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:19 PM
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You do get to choose though. Unless you’re incel level ugly. Your choices are just more limited.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:18 PM
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I can see this. I think these social issues just exacerbate an already existing issue. Men would still tolerate more from women than women do from men once their horniness reaches an intolerable level. It wouldn’t be as prevalent without social shaming but it would still exist. Similarly women would relax their standards because they know their fertility window is closing. The only difference is it’d be at 35-37 vs 30 if there was no social shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:17 PM
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And you pick the prettiest among that group.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:50 PM
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They tell themselves they’re a 10 to boost their self esteem or because they’re including things other than looks but they know how they compare to other women in terms of attractiveness. They just don’t use a numeric scale to assess this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:48 PM
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AKA society tolerates and accepts emotional immaturity in women far more than in men, Wrong. Unless you consider society to be solely and exclusive made up of men? If you do not consider women to be part of society then I guess I see how you came to this conclusion but we wouldn’t agree because we’re starting from different premises. but for some reason we judge the female emotional immaturity as normal and acceptable, but any kind of emotional reaction men display that women don't like, gets la…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 11:06 AM
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Well as a man start advocating for yourself like women do. Men dismiss women’s concerns all the time and label them as neurotic and other synonyms.Women just keep going though and eventually they get results. To get the results you’d like. Thanks for the congratulations!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:59 AM
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Would you mind expanding on this? Are you saying women’s intolerance for immature men is due to shaming men’s inexperience or that men’s preference for demographics of women who may be immature is due to that? Or both?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:58 AM
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Basically married means you’re unmarried.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 12:27 PM
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When’s your wedding date? I’d like to follow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 12:26 PM
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You’re not married either though and you like toilet humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 12:26 PM
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If they’re crying in the privacy of their own home who cares? No one is impacted or seeing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 12:24 PM
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I see why you’re bothered by things now. Do you get called immature a lot? To the point where it impacts your dating life?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 12:23 PM
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Frequent crying and moodiness is also viewed as immature. Nearly every example you listed is viewed as childish/immature. Men just have more tolerance for immature women than women do for immature men. Many men tend to prefer demographics of women who may also happen to be immature so they accept that as an unavoidable downside of dating their preference. Or at best a cute quirk. For women it’s not the same. You’re mistaking acceptance of immaturity for labeling of immaturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 12:22 PM
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Men en masse never had a spiritual connection with women. They had social, political, legal ties to them. Some men still have these, others don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:28 PM
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He definitely wasn’t. He was self-assured, mature, emotionally intelligent, capable and macho. He literally took out the people chasing them all by himself in hand to hand combat. Sexless is a moot point. The Barbie’s were sexless too. None of the inhabitants of Barbie land had any sex drive/appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 08:17 PM
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The post seems to be deleted now but who were the women to you? The ones you opened up to?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 08:15 PM
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Yes. Then men can transcend past being shackled to patriarchal roles they find suffocating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 08:02 PM
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Take the Barbie movie for example. If a young male kid watches it, there’s literally no positive male role model for him in that movie. Are you kidding? Alan was right there. Even Ken at the end when he starting his journey of self-discovery. Literally all the men are bumbling idiots. Alan wasn’t. Woke ideology needs to be destroyed in society. It is the root of a lot of evil. So why did Evelio exist before woke ideology?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 08:01 PM
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Twitter/X is a cesspool. You can find hordes of loathsome posts about nearly any demographic in existence. If it’s having that much of a negative impact on your mental health it may be best that you delete the app.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 07:59 PM
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If you open up to a woman it should be a woman in your life you trust enough to be that vulnerable with. Not random women online.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 07:57 PM
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Unless the supply also increases the demand would just drive up the prices even further.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 08:01 PM
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The supply wouldn’t change much ethically. Since there are already many places where sex work is legal that women can move to if they’re interested in selling sex. More women may be trafficked. Since the demand would increase though. As now you’ve opened up the world of sex buying to men who were deterred by the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 05:28 PM
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Yeah so buy a $500 minimum trip to some other country just to for some sex lol. That's not accessible or sustainable for most men. Then they won’t be able to afford to solicit sex workers period since you’ll be spending about that much for a decent sex worker in western countries where it’s legal. And btw women hate passpor bros. And that is for the same reason that they don't want prostitution to be legal This has what to do with men buying sex? If you’re resorting buying sex women probably did…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 05:26 PM
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Men who are doing so now would still do so with sex work legalized because paying a woman to sleep with you generally is more expensive than buying a video of her playing with herself. Even if it’s a custom video. You can watch the video repeatedly for one small payment but you only get sex one time per payment
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:39 AM
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Men already have an abundance of options to choose from if they want to buy sex.They can go abroad. The women I’ve seen who are against sex work typically were once in the trade against their will or women who have no direct experience with it but they’re worried about the supply vs demand issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:37 AM
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Answer the questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 01:17 PM
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Answer the questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 10:31 AM
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You sound very remedial. If you go outside wearing a gi is it ok for someone to sucker punch you because you look like you can fight? Like seriously. Would you go around arguing that if you look clean and well off you forfeit your right to not be robbed because others are less fortunate? You have to be trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:41 AM
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If you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 01:59 AM
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Its not your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 11:06 PM
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Again, that’s not you doing your part. That’s just you following lustful desires. Doing your part you’d divest from all of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 03:34 PM
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The unstable ones who will ruin your life like good looking criminals. The sane ones prefer law abiding good looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 03:34 PM
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No.Some of them like emotionally vulnerable men and some of them prefer stoic men. Either way that doesn’t take away from them being good friends. They exist in abundance in real life as well. Men just prioritize attraction over character more often than not when becoming friends with women. Or they take on the rejects of other women. Women who are such bad friends they’re intolerable to even their own gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 03:33 PM
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No. We remained on the topic of drunken acts and friends intervening. It’s a serious discussion. If you consented to these things while drunk would you be angry at your friends for intervening?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 03:31 PM
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So you’re not doing your part as you’re not completely disengaged. Being asexual and aromantic would be doing your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:13 AM
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They don’t but when they do women like them. Especially if he only simps for her
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:07 AM
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If I amputate your leg while you’re blackout drunk or unable to consent would I be wrong? Or if I took your credit card? Would you be mad at your friends for stopping me from taking your wallet if you were too drunk to understand what I was up to?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:56 AM
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And when people don’t want them to happen they cal their friends as backup to intervene. Something else that has been happening for years. Rape has also been happening for thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:56 AM
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Or women can, you know, treat their friends like adults with agency rather than putting their physical body in between their friend and a person having a mere conversation with them? Them doing so is why they do the blockade among other things.You’ve already admitted you don’t have good friendships with women. If you did you’d already be privy to the types of conversations that happen before a night out where alcohol will be involved. The discuss the inocuos gesture they’ll perform to signal the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:55 AM
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They’re not unicorns and it’s not selfless. It’s regular friend behavior. If you choose your female friends based on comparability and sincerity those acts are a dime a dozen. Too many men choose female friends based on lust. I highly suspect that and the second reason I mentioned are why you haven’t had good experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:49 AM
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There's no universal way that "normal humans" are treated. Different people are treated differently in different contexts. Exactly the point. Take each encounter with them as a blank slate and be as rational as possible when assessing them. Don’t let overly positive or negative cloud your judgment. To me instinctively the phrase sounds like it's meant to mean treat women as you would treat a man, but that's not what people mean either. Not inherently because if it’s a woman you want to sleep wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 12:04 AM
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It’s not consensual.That’s why the friend intervenes. Plus even if it is so what? If she wants to sleep with the man that bad she can pursue it again once sober.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:59 PM
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So because you don’t think it’s that bad women should stop stepping in to redirect their inebriated friends? You know most of the time they communicate these things beforehand right? If one of them(or a few of them) plan on getting wasted one person is designated to be the watch and make sure no one does anything they will regret or is taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:58 PM
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I’ve never had a woman help me move in the sense I assume you mean(as in moving heavy furniture). I have had them help me pack to move. Not the car break down because I haven’t had that happen. Fingers crossed it never does. Everything else you listed I’ve received from female friends. As well as as them making me food and helping me tidy up my place when I was really sick. If you vet well and you’re a good friend with no ulterior motives women will be good friends to you. Too often men just try…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:56 PM
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It’s not a gendered matter. The example given happens to be women but the same can occur with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:51 PM
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Very true!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 08:07 PM
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She’s a grifter for sure but I think she does want a husband. She cheated on her ex but she bent over backwards for him to before she cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 08:07 PM
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I’m a kinky man trust there are women that are into submission. If the simping is on par with mild pickmes women enjoy it when the man is hot. Especially if he’s reserving that treatment just for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 05:48 PM
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That’s the baseline definition but it manifests itself in many different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 05:20 PM
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They’re turned off if he’s not attractive.They’ll rush to get with him and lock him down if he’s hot because men like that are the mythical Alpha Bucks in their eyes. A hot man that’s also loving, loyal and cherishes her. It seems we’re saying the same thing in a sense. Women don’t like ugly simps but they love the good looking ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 05:02 PM
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To fuck her maybe but she’s looking for a husband so where is he?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 04:00 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:19 PM
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She’s not thin. She’s mid size. She’s worn makeup before and it helps to brighten up her complexion but makeup can only do so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 02:59 PM
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It’s definitely pick me behavior. If it’s a daughter that’s being molested and the daughter says something to force her mom to acknowledge the molester boyfriend /husband the mom go nuts claiming the daughter is just jealous and trying to ruin the relationship. It’s child neglect and emotional abuse but also pick me behavior. They’re so desperate for a man they will sacrifice anything even their own kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 02:52 PM
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Seems like she was based on your detailed knowledge of her life and her social circles. She may no longer be your friend but she once was.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 02:50 PM
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Do you have proof of this? A lot of men seem to like what she says but they think she’s too ugly to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 02:49 PM
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Based on her ex they’re not very high at all. So I doubt that. From other answers it seems like men like the idea of a pick me in theory but in reality a pretty face is what wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 02:49 PM
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If your friend circle is full of weirdos that’s something you need to address with them. I wouldn’t accept any of my friends dating minors. Man or woman. You and your friends seem deeply disturbed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 01:15 PM
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Fair enough then lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 01:14 PM
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You can use the same qualifier for simps. Women like good looking simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 12:07 PM
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That’s why they said on here. Personally I’ve even seen it likened to prostitution on this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 12:06 PM
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⁠Is a professional athlete Is this actually true? Is so what sport because I find it hard to believe. Like I consider pick me behavior things like ⁠Cooking for him without being asked ⁠Giving time and attention without the expectation that her effort will be returned 1:1 and/or in the same format ⁠taking an interest in things he likes even if they don't necessarily interest you None of these things are pick me behavior. I’ve had women do these things for me as a platonic friend. Plenty more do i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 12:05 PM
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Looks not being up to his preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:55 AM
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So why is she still single? She’s been very vocal about looking for a husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:55 AM
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It’s not Kareness to be aware of mens bad intentions. Some just straight out say they think younger women are more trainable/easy to raise. That right there tells you their desires align with what anon said
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:54 AM
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They don’t have to manipulate him. They just ask. Plus if it’s older people the women are usually at the stage where they do things themselves or have a consistent professional handyman they call for things they can’t handle.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:52 AM
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I think it depends on the ages/age gap. More often than not they’re genuinely happy for them but in situations where it’s a big age/generation gap things can be awkward. When you hang with your friends sometimes you hang with their significant others as well. If their buddy is in his 40 or 50 dating someone in their twenties his female friends are probably going to thing of her as a kid. Especially if they have kids around her age. So it makes it a bit harder to take her seriously as his adult p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:50 AM
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If she’s not hot she’s putting herself in that position whether she approaches hot men, average men or ugly men. The probability just shifted fat from 90% chance of being used for sex to 70% to 50%
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 01:34 AM
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Never is a stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 11:30 PM
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Many of them can get women. They just don’t enjoy being around them. One example a guy on ask men was talking about how he had a string of crazy women that he dated and it turned him off dating women for good. He still lusts after them but remembering the bad experiences sobers him up. Plus according to him men are better at sucking dick so that serves as further incentive to ignore his attraction to women and simply focus on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 06:14 AM
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I know they do but if you’re in a situation where the trouble that will come with it is too much, go for the easier option. A lot of bi men who find dating women to be too much of a hassle stick to exclusively dating men. Same on the flip side.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 03:08 PM
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What do you mean there is no such thing? Elaborate. She didn’t need him. She could’ve survived life without him. She would’ve still been able to raised her kids and such without him. She wanted him, he wanted her and so they got together.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 03:07 PM
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Not at all. There’s a lot of bi people who are attracted to both sexes but they stick to just dating only one for various reasons. The same would be true here, you’d still be bisexual you would just be actively choosing to only engage with men to avoid having to deal with women who will look down on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 03:04 PM
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So? If other men don’t why not just focus on having fun with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:46 PM
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No. Social norms in many countries just make it more acceptable for women to do openly indulge in sapphic exploration. While for men you better not do it openly unless you’re planning to identify as gay for the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:42 PM
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Well me being against feminism somehow make you less intelligent? This is kind the feat. No I’m trying to figure out how you think this would work for her financially. You don't need retirment when yo have a big family to take care of her and her husband will work now getting twice the pay. This would be dependent on what county you work in but in the west you need a lot of money to pull off this feat. Even families where one person would like to stay at home still requires both parties to work …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:40 PM
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It’s not obvious because you’re anti-feminism so I’m trying to connect the dots on how she’s supposed to have money towards retirement or marketable work skills if she completely shirks everything feminism has done for women. What if you die or leave her? Do you believe in alimony? Would you pay into a retirement fund for her? How does that work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 07:48 PM
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Because he's been manipulated into thinking it. There's nothing natural or advantageous to being a step father. It's literal parasitism. They're enslaved as if they were human ants. You assume it’s manipulation but in reality it’s just relative happiness. Let’s say you have $0. You see some men with $100,000+. Then you’re given $10,000 are you unhappy with getting $10k just because in another scenario you would’ve received more? He’s happy because baggage aside he gets a committed loving partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:10 PM
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What city are you in? After helping that guy look in Vegas I realized some cities are better for this than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:05 PM
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Depends on what else you have going for you. If you have nothing but your looks as a man the only women you’ll get to finance your entire life are single moms or older less attractive women. Women who are average looks with something going for themselves will fuck you, maybe even date you but they’re not paying all your bills long term. If she’s hot with something going for herself there’s even less chance of that happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:03 PM
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How would she be able to pay those things with no salary or her own bank account?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:01 PM
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I have seen enough of these dating mixers to know the problem is mostly women and a little bit men. Starting with the men, the little bit is; for open mixers there are generally going to be droves of men wanting to go compared to the number of women, so without someone culling the number bof men it can easily devolve into a sausage feast. Resulting in women not wanting to go. Really? In NYC it tends to be the opposite. With the exception of long-standing events where the promoters get more men t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:56 PM
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This one is today https://www.eventbrite.com/e/las-vegas-speed-dating-singles-event-ages-21-45-vegas-valley-winery-tickets-733125978537?aff=ebdssbdestsearch You might miss this one because I’m not sure how long you’ll be there. https://www.eventbrite.com/e/las-vegas-speed-dating-park-version-tickets-706679195497?aff=ebdssbdestsearch Ngl. Las Vegas looks pretty dry for these type of events. I’ll look on Facebook too. If you’re ever in NYC, Toronto, Philly etc you’d have a much better time finding…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:53 PM
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What made you say they were scams? And I’ll go look now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:40 PM
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What do you mean when you say accountability. What would that look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:38 PM
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Would you pay your wife a salary in exchange for not working?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:33 PM
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If this is a common thought process on this sub that would explain a whole lot
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:33 PM
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What city? I’ll look it up for you. I’ve seen some on eventbrite or on Facebook groups for people new to the city the groups for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:27 PM
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Thank you this was an interesting read.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:22 PM
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How old are you if you don’t mind me asking? I think for kids growing up when I was young, or some young people now it’s more common for their parents to tell them certain things when they feel they’re mature enough to handle it. They want to advise them against repeating their mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:20 PM
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You have to look for them. They’re also more common in big cities but if you type “Singles mixer event (insert your city name)” then you’ll see them pop up with the time, locations and dates and RSVP form if they require one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:18 PM
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Not all of them fall into the she looks better and is using him case. There’s a lot where he looks better and is using her but men generally don’t pay attention to those cases when they’re airing their grievances against women. Women will bring them up when they complain about men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:16 PM
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I mean I dunno. I only have one set of parents. But my mom, god bless her, would never ever let me hear her criticize my dad in front of me. Even though I'm sure she had her moments where she felt it. Not because my dad was some viscous dude who would hurt her in reprisal. But because my mom wouldn't poison-the-well with her kids like that. I’m saying though it doesn’t have to be in front of you. Relationship woes aside, have you ever heard you parents say something to a friend, to themselves et…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:58 PM
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If a woman is desperately in love with her man and he is looking to use her ( mildest sense ) and she begins to offer anal everyday despite hating it, just so that she can keep being his girlfriend, is she happy in the relationship? I’d have to ask her to know if she’s happy or not. As for the write up, it's the first post in my profile Thanks! Edit: is it in the comments of that post? The first post I see from you is about go bags and paternity testing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:45 PM
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Theres dating mixers too. Where oddly enough women complain not enough men go to. Many of them will be all or only women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:34 PM
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Nope usually it’s both. There’s single moms who date men making less than them who are a detriment to keep around simply because that man is providing the affection she desperately craves. Edit: I will say this though. What she’s looking for can usually be sussed out by how hot she is compared to her partner. If they’re about the same she was looking for both love and help. If he’s hotter she was looking for love. If he’s uglier she was looking for help. If they both have kids then looks don’t m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:15 PM
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Lmaoo I should’ve had my coffee before I read this. Still though if he was that miserable she would’ve heard some things in passing that confirmed it. Even if he never said it to her, she could’ve overheard him on the phone or something similar. Seems he’s happy because he knows what his alternatives were and his wife makes him happy compared to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:14 PM
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Following this logic wouldn’t they still be happy? His other option is perpetual loneliness so compared to that he is happy. You can argue he’d be happier if he was a desirable man but happiness is a spectrum. You can be happy with a gift of $100,000 even if you’d be happier with $200,00. Potential for greater future happiness or potential for more happiness in different circumstances doesn’t negate present happiness. Also I’d love to read your write-up on submissive men. If it’s not too much tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:07 PM
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I mean I'm kinda torn here on this OP, but it could be the absolutely same factors are playing out: this man is so beaten down, passive, weak and simpy he doesn't even dare utter a word about his own misery, lest his shadow hear and throw a punch at him. He's internalized it and done his best and accepted the barest scraps of female affection he could get. If this was the case OP would’ve mentioned this. Yet he didn’t AFAIS. He just went into length about how/why his stepdad is undesirable. Then…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 12:35 PM
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They’ve always done it though. Before they’d tell the girls in secret. Now they’ll come to online communities and express it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 12:30 PM
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They literally do. I’ve personally heard it. I know many women who have heard it. Their moms, grandmothers, aunts etc will tell them the regrets they’ve had and caution the girls in the family against making the same mistakes. My aunt literally told her daughters only have 1 kid and make sure not to have any sons because she’s convinced something is wrong with the Y chromosome from their fathers side. They grew up to parrot a similar sentiment and now one doesn’t want kids period and the other w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 12:29 PM
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They’re looking for both.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:48 AM
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The difference is. Those women often tell you they were miserable. They’ll go to other women prompted or unprompted and tell them don’t do xyz like they did because they were miserable. Then women internalize it and parrot it. You’re making a false equivalence since this guys step dad said himself said he’s happy with his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:47 AM
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Fair enough. I was referring to the 9 class model though. I should’ve made that clearer with my initial statement
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 07:25 PM
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Really? I’ve heard of/seen 3 but I’ve also heard of seen more than 3 especially in places like the UK. Mostly due to the 3 class model being too rudimentary to really encapsulate the range. Lower class/underclass, lower working class, upper working class, lower middle class, middle-middle class, upper middle class, lower upper class, middle upper class, upper-upper class.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 11:57 AM
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Being selfish doesn’t necessarily lead to your life getting worse though? It depends on how selfish you are and what kind of selfishness you engage in.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 11:52 AM
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Well that would depend on the emotional maturity of the involved parties. Some people get vindictive, some try the persuasion route and others just leave amicably.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 11:51 AM
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Seems they’d part ways based on the comment
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 05:21 AM
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Maybe but from toaster child’s comment it seems they’re willing to invest time and energy into people with mutually aligned goals who do the same for them. So it wouldn’t necessarily be a “me, me, me” attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 05:05 AM
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It didn’t work out better for women. The downsides for them were just ignored and written off as a necessary sacrifice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:55 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:51 AM
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That’s what I mean. Both men and women will reject single parents in favor of people without kids. However men are a lot more vocal about it and they’re a lot harsher about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 11:55 PM
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Wouldn’t that be dependent on which class breakdown you’re going by? 5 vs 9?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 11:52 PM
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Some of them. Like those babies that come out holding their moms IUD. Others are from people using their birth control incorrectly, or not using it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 08:25 PM
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Single fathers are less desired than childless men. All else being equal. Although women don’t seem to be as viscerally opposed to dating single parents as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 08:24 PM
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Not enough for it to be notable or consistent. As in one year he may earn a couple thousand more, then the next she does. So on and so forth. The amount isn’t big enough for either of them to be hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 08:22 PM
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I highly doubt the reason for that is them being hard to come by. I’d have to know you on a deeper level to ascertain that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:21 PM
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They are considering most people pair up within their SEC.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:20 PM
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Men who are good looking get complimented. Men who are talented also get complimented. Men who are neither don’t for mainly because they fade into the background but also because of what you said. Certain communities of men gush over each others selfies. Gym bros and car bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:19 PM
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What metric are you using? Then I’ll drop some names.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:18 PM
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I’m just saying it’s not the maleness preventing men from posting selfies. It’s not making the cut in terms of looks. Men who do post a lot of selfies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:17 PM
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They’re outliers do to being in the small percentage of men women find attractive to the point of going damn near feral.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:16 PM
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Your making a point about optimizing, if the guy didn't make that much money then he ain't getting the super hot model, that's not him being hypergamous but optimizing because he has access to resources to attract such a woman It is him being hypergamous because hypergamy is a subsidiary of optimization. It’s the same with women if a woman wasn’t financially successful she wouldn’t be able to leverage that for a partner much hotter than her. Similarly if a woman wasn’t young hot she wouldn’t be …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:16 PM
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Wow
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:12 PM
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Maybe the women you date but women do offer love and support. The thing is though, you can offer all the love and support in the world but it won’t matter if that’s not what someone wants from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:48 PM
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Most women would be fine with a man who earns the same as them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:45 PM
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By this logic you can make the claim that men never truly date down either. Since if the man earns more the woman usually looks better and is younger than him. If he’s better looking than her she’s the higher earner. Men aren’t dating down on both ends of the hypergamy ladder either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:43 PM
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1&2 are definitely not true lol. There’s men who make a living off postings thirst traps and salacious selfies lol. The real reason is that not enough men are handsome enough to get the reaction they want from posting selfies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:41 PM
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I’ll have to look into that but I would’ve be shocked. Plenty of hosts interview unsavory characters for the shock factor and to cater to the demographic of their viewers that overlap with the true crime community.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:28 AM
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Yikes he probably puts a lot of stock into looks then. I wouldn’t be surprised if she was very aware of this and using it to exploit him. Poor dude, hopefully one day he wakes up and decides to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 01:11 AM
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She has a wide range of guests. Including ones that fit into the categories Yacub was looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 01:09 AM
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Wow then that’s even stranger then that he developed this mindset of not being able to find anyone better. Is the current gf the prettiest woman he’s been with?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 01:08 AM
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Oprah’s podcast
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:17 PM
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Her career is done. Emma Robert’s is a better example.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:14 PM
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Were any of the previous 8 girlfriends abusive to him? If so that could’ve contributed to him feeling this way also.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:12 PM
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With the exception of extremely attractive men,most men are going to be nicer to the woman they’re dating than they are generally. They’ll even pretend to be nice to other people while the woman is watching. The only exception to that is if she’s an asshole too who doesn’t care about other being mistreated. Once he’s gotten what he wants out of her or he thinks she’s sufficiently hooked on him he’ll drop the facade. This is why the end of the honeymoon phase is the true tell. If he’s still kind …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:10 PM
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Not really. That’s something you have to figure out on your own. You have to learn about yourself. Once you do that you’ll know who is right for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:07 PM
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Well a large part of knowing who is right for you is knowing yourself. Self-awareness is something you have to develop on your own time. People can advise you on how to start but you’re the one that has to do the inner work to figure out what your peeves are, what makes you feel loved, how you communicate, how you listen etc. then from that you’ll be able to ascertain what kind of partner would be right for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 11:49 AM
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Which is why after you successfully secure a relationship and get married you can then take advice from couples who’ve been together for decades. If you’re not even at that step though you’re better off getting advice from people who understand modern dating dynamics. How can you get good advice on succeeded on OLD from someone who never used it and dated before the internet was a household convenience? It’s not very likely. Once you clear the dating stage they’ll have worthwhile advice but not …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 03:40 AM
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You’re misunderstanding what I’m saying. I’m saying the best advice would be from someone in your similar situation that has had recent success in what you want. Say you want marriage. Take advice from people similar to you, with similar taste in partners as you who dated and got married in the last 5 years vs someone who got married 50 years ago. The person married 50 years ago will have good advice for maintaining the marriage but the newlywed will have better advice for someone just starting …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 05:17 AM
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In different times and different circumstances so the advice there may not be applicable to the person they’re giving it to. For example a Christian who was married in the 1960s telling a gen Z atheist their love story. That shoe probably won’t fit. Actual marital advice could/would but not early dating since what the Christian was looking for differed from what the atheist was looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 09:00 AM
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I agree but before it gets to the wedding stage. It’s best to talk to people who can relate to the boat you’re in. After you cross that hurdle taking advice from anyone in long lasting, happy, healthy relationships is a smart thing to do
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:28 AM
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I partially agree. For advice on how to maintain a healthy relationship. Any couples that have long healthy relationships can give solid advice regardless of when they got together. When it comes to getting your foot in the door though there is a huge generational shift. The dating landscape looks very different pre/vs post internet. Third spaces also aren’t as common as they once were. So if you’re in the dating scene now, the most valuable advice you’d get on starting points are from people wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:27 AM
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I thought the use of commas made it clear that those adjectives were in reference to separé insults and not combination ones? Anyway anything outside of just natural, unintentional romantic progression is met with ire. Look in the comments of female dating coaches or tiktokers when the content circulates outside of their followers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:23 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:21 AM
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Full of rotten food or food you can’t afford
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:21 AM
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I’m not single now. Men aren’t cars either but not everyone is the same. You won’t be everyone’s type. So it’s best to know what your features are and how to leverage them to get your best dating life
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:21 AM
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Which is insane seeing as shorter men have way better leverages for lifting things. Maybe Also if this was true why are women so fat these days? The same reason men are. The food sucks and peoples metabolisms slow as they age. A lot of westerners live very draining sedentary lifestyles and they kind of get stuck in a rut too. If you don’t have the willpower to break that habit early and add movement into your day and make better food choices when you can it’s a downward spiral. Also this problem…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 01:48 AM
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Sure but if you’re in the dating stages it’s probably better to talk to newly weds who were in the dating scene within the last five years. Once you’re married advice from couples who’ve been married for decades would then be good to help you make your marriage last.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 01:43 AM
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Yeah I’d like to see a screenshots of all this lol. It sounds nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 01:41 AM
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Personally I don’t think grooming and fashion is gay in any sense. I’ve just men many men who claim they feel like it’s gay to do all of that. Yet if their girlfriend or sister forces them to then it’s suddenly not gay? Idk. There’s ROI on plastic surgery and non-invasive cosmetic procedures as well. Nose jobs, chin in plants or jaw surgery can do just as much to improve a man’s looks as it can a woman’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 01:40 AM
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It definitely is especially in smaller cities. I myself used to be confident that every dude in the bar was also into dudes. Now not so much. When I go out with my lesbian girlfriends they’ve said the same. Sometimes the girl they approach is straight or taken. The worst cases though is when she’s straight but “willing to make an exception”. In bigger cities it’s not as bad if you know which clubs to go to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 06:37 PM
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That entirely depends on your starting point. If you have an attractive base that’s hidden underneath acne, dry skin, an unflattering haircut, working out and taking your grooming routine to the next level could boost you a lot. If you have bad bone structure, still do the above but also grow a beard if you can or if you can’t use the same cheat women do and get plastic surgery or fillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 06:35 PM
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Riight... I will take your word over actual lesbians` word pal. I mean that’s what you’re expecting of me. The lesbian and bi women I know are the reason for my opinion. They told me frequently how they do a bunch of indirect things to sus out a woman’s sexuality. Once confirmed they either give up or move super fast. Also this happens in bars for gay women as well. Not just out in the wild lol. If you follow lgbt discourse a lot of Gay/lesbian bars and clubs are no longer “safe” because a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 06:24 PM
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They’re really not if you live in a major city and they like your look. Lesbians drop hints because they need to make sure the other woman is also sapphic before making their move. Once that’s confirmed they’re very direct.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 06:17 PM
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Can you attach pics of the profile?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 06:10 PM
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It’s not disingenuous. It’s just the truth women only approach men they find very attractive. Jokes are not always the 100% truth. Lesbians get together every day, breakup divorce then start all over again. Clearly someone had to approach. I’m sorry that’s been your experience. I’ve had women approach me straight up and ask for my socials.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 06:06 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:13 PM
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Not necessarily. Since a tall strong guy is nearly guaranteed to be able to pull off that feat. Whereas a guy shorter than her it’s a coin toss. You won’t know if he can or can’t until you see him do it. Which is why you see a lot of women getting turned on by thirst traps of men who at first glance don’t look like much(short with a sleeper build) but then when they see a video of him lifting a good amount of weight in a salacious manner their perception of him changes. Most short men don’t have…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:39 PM
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LOL It’s not really funny. The state of the west unless you’re privileged/wealthy you can either be a good parent, good spouse or good worker. Maybe 2 a time but one area will suffer for the others to succeed. And the money, don't forget the money This is only true if you get knocked up by a well-off guy. If not you’re impoverishing yourself more than if you stayed childless.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:52 PM
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Height and strength. If you’re too much shorter than her or you can’t lift her body weight or more it makes it harder to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:45 PM
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People who have the dating success you want who have similar specs as yourself. Like height, race, age, status etc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:22 PM
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You mind explaining the mechanics? I’ve never witnessed or scene this but I’d definitely love some tips to add to my mental notes if you have any.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:06 PM
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Single motherhood is on the rise because women are becoming aware of/fearing/believing in being married single mothers. They’d rather have the kid and not have to deal with the hassle of being a wife too. The overall birth rate is dropping so more women are opting out of having kids all together or they’re having less kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:03 PM
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If you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:03 PM
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Who said anything about flying? I’m talking about being able to stand up as a man and pick the woman up so her feet don’t touch the ground, then fuck her. It doesn’t if you’re trying to completely lift her off the ground. For that position it’s better if the man is taller. You can also do it with the man standing if the man is taller too. The woman just wouldn’t be standing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:02 PM
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Like I have to be a 8 -10 on my communication like high energy and funny to get a level 4-5 reply. The dates I also have to pay. I don’t recall but don’t believe I was even thanked for paying for dinner. No agenda. These are literally your own words. Dry women are dry from the texting/calling stage before the first date so I’m just not understanding why you’re not cycling through them quicker if you don’t enjoy it. From the point of the initial match if they’re not conversing with equal energy j…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:01 PM
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Sex doesn’t get you commitment. Most people(yes women included) in the modern west know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 10:36 AM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 10:31 AM
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I don’t think it’s “the answer”. Simply an added perk to sleeping with tall strong men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 10:31 AM
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Yep. Men who have “pretty boy” routines(facials, mani-pedis, hair treatments, etc) are very attractive. A lot of modern make sex symbols have them on the low. They just don’t often advertise it or make it part of their brand like their female counterparts. You’d be a fool to think their stylists and image consultant don’t have a beauty routine for them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 09:52 AM
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Would you date someone who looked like pre-weight loss Lizzie if she put effort into you and was kind?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 09:12 AM
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You can pick them up and penetrate them in the air and all that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 09:11 AM
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I’ll try and find a picture example. Like this without the ankles crossed. If she can’t get them all the way that’s fine but the closer the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 09:10 AM
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Partially yes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 09:08 AM
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Most men don’t make enough money to have a stress-free housewife/house gf. A good chunk of them are just barely able to afford themselves as single men. They’re living paycheck to paycheck
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:56 AM
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I’m surprised you didn’t see the og meaning of thirsty then? That’s very interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:51 AM
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Oh strange then. Do you mind if I ask your race? The origins of thirsty and simp came from men in a specific US community. If you’re not part of it or didn’t grow up around people who were you might’ve been introduced to it by the time the meaning had been watered down/modified.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:47 AM
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Hm ok if you say so. From what you described this more so sounds like she had a normal or insecure attachment style paired with strings of bad sex before you. That’s different from what I’m describing. Even the most clingy woman could cut an FWB off with impunity if the sex wasn’t good.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:46 AM
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Oh what country are you from? I always default to the assumption of the users here being from UK/US/CA but there are sometimes people outside of those
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:39 AM
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Women do date that way.The ones I know at least. Having a strategy won’t stop you from dating trays guys. It has to be the correct strategy for your particular situation. Some women don’t employ a strategy but many do and just employ the wrong one so they get poor results.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:38 AM
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Was she actually that or just saying that to get you? There’s a difference. Women who are actually avoidant and A-romantic won’t contact you unless it’s to arrange a hookup or to confer on std results and the like. They’ll kick you out of their place or leave yours after they’re done too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:35 AM
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Over where?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:33 AM
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She can if she dates strategically. If she were my friend I’d advise her to cycle out men more quickly to filter for what she wants. It’s easy to tell whether a guy is the nonchalant type or not within the early stages. If he’s not planning to take her out within a day of texting block and move on. If she’s online dating wait 12 hours to message prioritize guys that extend the match. That’ll get you a pool of “chalant” men to further vet from.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:33 AM
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It’s not if you choose women who only want casual and have an avoidant attachment style or are A-romantic. They’ll be on the same page as you. Just sex, no feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:29 AM
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From my experience with partners with a similar height gap (3-5 inches) it works, but only do this if you’re confident in her flexibility. Otherwise she might get cramped or hurt. If she’s flexible though getting her legs really close to/next to her head let’s you slide in deeper and get closer for kissing and caressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:24 AM
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There’s less in the way to maneuver her if she’s slim. Next time try doing it with her hips propped up and her legs by the side of her head. It should raise her up more to where her lips are closer to yours and let you get in closer more comfortably. Then if you bend your head down towards her and she bends hers up towards you, you’ll be able to kiss during missionary
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:19 AM
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Is she flexible? At those heights missionary and kissing is easy if the woman is fairly slim and flexible. If not then it’ll be harder on your back or near impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:12 AM
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They don’t approach men they don’t find attractive. If they find the man attractive they’ll approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:09 AM
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How tall are you if you don’t mind me asking? But I understand there can be drawbacks too if they height difference is too extreme
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:08 AM
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Do you mean they don’t send the first message or they never message at all? It could be that they accidentally swiped but don’t want to be harsh by unmatching and they’d prefer to let things die out instead. Or they could be bot accounts. There’s more men on tinder and some of the accounts that you think are women are actually fake accounts meant to give men false hope so they stay on the app. Or it could be they feel they’re dating down and want you to do all the work because you’re not their t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:57 AM
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There wasn’t. They’re saying if there is no insult no one will care what your standards are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:44 AM
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A cultural reset would be needed for this to happen. It’s slowly happening with Gen Z and Gen A from what I’ve seen as well with their parents teaching them to assert themselves more. For a lot of men though they grew up pedestalizing sex so much that they’d compromise their own morals and boundaries to secure access to it. For women they grew up being people pleasers who weren’t taught to effectively trust their guts and assert themselves for fear of being “dramatic”, hysterical, bitchy etc Bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:43 AM
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It absolutely did because men felt those kinds of men were ruining the dating game. Women only used it on men who they rejected/ignored who kept trying after she expressed disinterest multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:39 AM
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Why is that a “too fucking bad” scenario? If she doesn’t like nonchalant men she’s free to express that and avoid dating those kinds of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:36 AM
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Not all women want the same thing. If you don’t like how chocolate cake tastes and I keep offering it to you after I said no especially when there’s other people around who want to eat my chocolate cake so I have no reason to keep pestering you about it you’d be miffed too. Similar with casual situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:36 AM
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So stop dating girls and date women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:34 AM
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They don’t if you do it in the same way women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:34 AM
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The popular videos I’ve seen on new accounts tend to be current events, major sports, celebrity or fashion highlights, major and funny videos. Not gender war stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:31 AM
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They do. If women aren’t approaching you it’s because you’re not that attractive. It could be location based as in you’re not a hot commodity where you live but you might be somewhere else. Or you’re just generally not attractive enough for women to want to approach you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:18 AM
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Sex dolls, trans women, porn etc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:16 AM
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It’s really not.Your comment seems like it’s something you’re actively still doing with the women who have dry replies. After the initial convo where you see they’re like that why not drop them? According to your own words only 1 of them in an active participant in the convo so why not drop the other 39?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:16 AM
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This isn’t true. They’ll strategize on how to get a man but it’s only in certain spaces because women who do it publicly are met with ire from the male population for being manipulative, gold diggers, shallow etc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:14 AM
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They spend time thinking about it from a woman’s perspective. They’ll analyze and strategize on different ways to have dating success as a woman. They’ll debate on which approach is the best and where the others fall in the ranking. In regards to men though, they don’t pay them any mind beyond what they need to know to maximize the outcome for women. With that as well they’re only considering the thoughts, opinions, behaviors and desires of men they deem attractive/high quality. For other men, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:13 AM
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They’re not putting that much conscious thought into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:08 AM
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They put out the stigma that it’s bad to desire a woman that doesn’t want you. If she wants you then it’d good. The stigma was put in place to dissuade unwanted attention from undesirable suitors. Without it women(Especially the very attractive ones) would have to do a lot more work that they don’t want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:08 AM
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They do, but with men they like. If you’re not their type they’re not going to put much thought into you one way or the other until/unless you insert yourself into her personal sphere in a way where she can’t ignore you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:07 AM
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It’s also skincare, hair care and fashion. Makeup aside Men generally shy away from putting the same amount of efforts into their looks as women because it’s stigmatized as being “gay”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:03 AM
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Women aren’t calling men misogynists for not dating. They call them misogynists for idealizing perceived common relationship dynamics from the 1950s and earlier. Or for wanting to return to times where women’s chastity was more guarded, women weren’t as present in the workplace, they couldn’t vote etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 03:59 AM
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How can women trust that though when there are men who say that’s what they want? You can make the argument that those men are just a vocal minority, but they still exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 03:56 AM
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It means being financially secure enough to have the time and money to treat her well. If you’re financially insecure you’re going to be stressed about money all the time and/or working very long hours. So you won’t have as much time to relax with your partner or enjoy going on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 03:55 AM
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Some are. It turns them on to have money spent on them. For commitment that security and dedication makes them feel more confident to get frisky because part of the female sex drive is feeling desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 03:53 AM
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All vaginas don’t feel and taste the same. It’s like with food. All it is is sustenance but if you just pick your meals based off that you’ll miss out on the wide variety of flavors, textures and smells that come with trying a variety of cuisines.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 03:52 AM
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I've dated and fucked many women, but it still confuses me sometimes how there is this odd paradox where women seem to get immense pleasure from sex, but yet don't seek it out the way men do. It’s because for a woman to get to the point where she gets immense pleasure from sex more factors need to be in alignment. For men they just need to be attracted to their partner and feeling comfortable/confident in their ability. For women they need the above, but they also need to feel sexy and desired, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 03:51 AM
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They don’t get approached often if at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 03:45 AM
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They already do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 03:44 AM
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It’s also a sexual thing. There’s some more positions you can do with a tall strong man vs a short one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 03:41 AM
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I’m not. You do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 01:31 AM
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Geese can be peaceful too
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 01:31 AM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:46 PM
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You should also develop a social mask. Even if it’s just a little bit
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:27 PM
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Not unless she insists. Otherwise I prefer to pay all the bills. Pampering women turns me on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:24 PM
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Because sometimes men are talking about real scenarios on here and when you take it as a joke/hyperbole you get hit with accusations of not caring about mens struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:22 PM
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Yes “their” women. Not a female stranger or friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:46 PM
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the fact that everything costs money has no inherent relation to men and women. It’s a peripheral issue that informs many peoples dating choices. you can see this as more women are outearning their male partners than in the past. Yet the majority still don’t and even among those that do few are married to men making no money. since this is trending a specific way in a society that’s no more or less capitalist than it has been in the past 100 years shows that other values are at play. Other value…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:46 PM
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Plenty of people say that all the time. If you’d like to be one of them be my guest. What you choose to say/post is not my business.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:14 PM
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Could be a goose you’ve mistaken for a duck
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:14 PM
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Plenty do actually. Or misandrist, or overly picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 07:58 AM
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I’d have to see what those women looked like in the pre-stages/early stages of dating to agree. Since I’ve seen my fair share of couples where they started off equally attractive or the woman was more attractive but then it flipped for various reasons. She let herself go because of laziness, he slowly pushed her in that direction because she attracted too much attention, the woman was experiencing a stress or depressive episode and not focusing on looks, injury, childbirth etc. It could be what …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 07:58 AM
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I think he’s saying this because even if you take conservatism out of the equation women will still go for the man with the most resources because that could have a direct impact on her quality of life under capitalism. This makes things worse for poor men who wouldn’t have much of a competitive advantage unless they’re attractive enough in other ways to entice a woman who wouldn’t mind paying most or all of the bills. In the west conservatism isn’t as big as it was in the past. Man as the provi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 07:52 AM
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Yeah your mindset isn’t an uncommon one. A lot of men are unwilling to step in because of their own reasons whatever those may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 07:46 AM
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They’ll help her with basic things like fixing furniture and maybe protecting her from emotional violence. For physical stuff though, they’re not going to be as inclined to do so unless she’s their gf/wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 07:44 AM
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I guess it just depends on the guy. I’ve never met any that get bored of it at 30. It’s always 50+ when they’re thinking about retirement and the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 07:43 AM
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If it’s raining outside and an RP guy and I both say it. Does that mean we’re both RP or that we’re two different kinds of people who made a similar observation?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 07:41 AM
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In your mind maybe but not in the real world. It’s why there’s a difference between general and absolute statements. General statements leave room for exceptions and deviations. Absolute statements don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 07:40 AM
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You’d be surprised how many people would just walk past and not do anything in these situations. Especially with homeless people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 11:44 AM
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I’ve seen women call emergency services a few times when there were men clearly having a physical or mental health crisis. For physical altercations I’ve seen women help with those 2x. First time was the aftermath of one. A highschool kid that was beat up presumably by his classmates. There were some women around him calling the cops, his parents and administering first aid. Then the other time was when I visited NYC and witnessed a guy get knocked over the head with a folding chair after a heat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 11:42 AM
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It’s culturally dependent but for partnership there’s a greater sense of duty and responsibility to the other person. Your gf/boyfriend can also be your life partner since in the west they use them interchangeably but a life partner has a lot more to it than a gf/bf.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 11:37 AM
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You just said: If a woman wants a kid they’d get sperm from attractive men How is this both not organized and conscious? 😂 There’s no organization or conscious thought. They’re just having babies by men they’re attracted to with no social, economic or political structure behind it. There’d also be no restrictions on stopping women from having kids by unattractive men or stopping unattractive men from getting surrogates. lol so state sponsored sexless simps to tend to women’s “emotional needs” wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 08:56 AM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 08:51 AM
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It just depends on the guy I guess. I had a coworker who was a party drug using fuck boy up until recently. He’s in his 50s and the only reason he got married is because he accidentally knocked up a woman 20 years younger than him. She didn’t want an abortion and he didn’t want his kid raised by a single mom so they got married and they have an open marriage. There’s all kinds among fuckboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 08:51 AM
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They won’t care about them as a class. They’ll be apathetic towards them which is a freedom all on its own for apathetic men. They’ll just be citizens free to work or live off UBI like all the other lower income citizens. What would change is men being relieved of the pressure of having to toil away in the hopes of getting a wife and kids and the pressure of having to run nations. Women can do it instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 08:48 AM
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I’m sorry you went through that, but it’s amazing that the other man walking by helped you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:42 PM
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It’s not eugenics. They’d just be having kids with men they find desirable while ignoring the ones they don’t. For it to be eugenics there’d have to be organization and conscious thought out behind it. Undesirable men also wouldn’t be a slave class. They’d just be there, free to do what they want as long as it doesn’t harm women. They can work if they want, or they can live off UBI if they don’t want to. The only necessary key component is women directly holding majority of the worlds power. I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:35 PM
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Some of them are gay and struggling with that. Others it’s lashing out at perceived rejection. If a woman is out of their league and they know it they get angry and want to tear her down a peg. Then for the rest they’re trolling for a reaction. A lot of men love being insulted by beautiful women. It’s a kink. When they troll in the comments sections of pretty women there’s a high chance the woman herself or other women will engage in that man’s kink for free by shaming him. Then for others they …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:28 PM
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Somebody has watched “Barbie” one too many times. Nope. All the phones in the world would suddenly disappear if women took over? When women also made many of the technological advances we have today? You could argue things would progress slower but already existing tech wouldn’t just disappear like that. For women. And men. They’d focus their time on commercialized relationship aspects(Like AI and sex dolls/bots/paid pretend gfs etc) gaming and hobbies. Stopped reading here. Utter delusion 😂 How…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:16 PM
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What’s a shame is TRP not capitalizing on a gap in the market vs complaining that a company doesn’t want to lose money on their behalf
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:58 PM
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They don’t come off that way because they’re not socially savvy. They’ll say or do things that will trigger that uncanny valley feeling. If someone took the time to be patient and get to know them they’d see the softer side. Most people aren’t that patient though, if you trigger alarm bells they’ll drop you pretty quick. To use an example from something I was reading. There was a puppy that had been hit by a car and 4 people standing around. An old man, a young woman and 2 young men. The girl an…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:57 PM
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Just like every man’s ex was a crazy bitch. Rose colored glasses fall off once the love is gone. The red flags and annoying quirks you annoyed while you were in love suddenly overshadow all the good times when you fall out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:49 PM
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You can have these things in a matriarchal world. They’re already here. Women would just be the ones making majority of the political, social, economic etc decisions as they’d hold majority power and office seats from the top down. Imo a matriarchal world would be one with more social pacifiers, blatant pseudo-harems, UBI, free healthcare and a lot less people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:48 PM
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Men were the ones who chimed in too. The quip isn’t completely wrong. Some women can control their hormones purely off will power, others need meds. Same with men. If your hormones are too much for you to control, seek professional help.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:45 PM
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Well that’s why fantasy is fantasy. IRL a man sociopathic enough to do the things like the characters in those books is not going to change. In the world of fiction though he can and will magically develop empathy and become a kinder man(to his partner at least) through the power of love. Women aren’t reading violent fantasy smut because they want real and honest. They’re reading it because they want an exciting, thrilling escape from reality. Autistic men don’t provide that, they provide the op…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:43 PM
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That’s terrible. I’m sorry that’s been your experience
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:39 PM
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Why would that be an issue though? A matriarchal world would be better for most men. Men who are already getting lots of sex still would and they’d experience more favorable gender dynamics. Men who already aren’t getting any wouldn’t see much of a change but they wouldn’t have to labor as much as they do now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:38 PM
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See a professional and see what they can prescribe you if you’re having hormonal issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:35 PM
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So take something for your hormonal issues just as women with them do. Speak to a professional and see how they can help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:34 PM
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If it’s their own family yes. Among strangers I’ve seen it once. I usually see women helping other women and children though. I think men just mind their own business more for better or for worse. Whereas women will at least report that they saw something suspicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:29 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:26 PM
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Yes. My comment applies to social media outside of Reddit as well. If you publicly post be prepared for all manner of responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:26 PM
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That largely depends on the country. Know the laws of where you’re living if you want to consume more unsavory media. Kinks are seen as a problem by some.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:25 PM
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It’s because in those tropes the violent man is a beast that softens up for her. She tames him. With autistic men there’s little to no taming that will be happening there. He is who he is. He’s not going to change much if at all simply because he’s smitten with a woman he barely knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:23 PM
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It’s because they want a guy who is genuinely that way. Not all men are sensitive and socially savvy though. If a man wants a woman but he’s not a sincerely emotionally in tune person he’ll just pretend to be what the woman wants to get what he wants out of her. No one wants to be duped but in the dating world there are unfortunately men and women who will pretend to be what you’re looking for so you’ll give them a chance. If you can fake what women want well enough they won’t be able to tell th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:17 PM
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If the autistic woman is physically attractive she’ll have no problem with men because her behavior will make her personality more attractive to men. She’ll come off as more honest and straight forward. Men like that to a degree because it’s less guess work to figure what she wants and where you stand with her. For autistic men the opposite is true. Women perceive them as crass, socially ignorant and overly blunt. If they’re physically attractive enough then women are willing to be more patient …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:14 PM
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Why is he discussing his private dating life with women vs just doing it in real life and keeping it to himself? When you publicly discuss things you open yourself up to comments. Even ones you’d prefer not to receive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:08 PM
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To be fair most people in the west aren’t going to advertise that they’re in love with a bot. It’s still stigmatized as being weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:06 PM
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They’re saying that because it’s true. Two things can be true at once. It’s like the men that were abusing their AI girlfriends. They’re already that way. They objectify women and want to abuse them but they can’t/won’t do that to a real women so they sublimate their urges with a fake one instead. Same with drawing/consuming pedo-pics.The people that do that are pedophiles. They’re attracted to children. They just have a conscience and feel some guilt so instead of victimizing a real child they …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 08:04 PM
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From eavesdropping on women’s discussions most of them aren’t thinking about this on a daily. Every once in a while when a sensationalist article brings the topic to light they’ll respond similarly to how you said. With apathy or joy at the undesirable men being taken off their hands. The most thought out response I’d seen to it was a woman who was telling me she thinks women are a buffer class for male violence and depravity. How in the past their wives would absorb that energy but with less pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:59 PM
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Censorship: the suppression or prohibition of any parts of books, films, news, etc. that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security. "the regulation imposes censorship on all media" What Reddit is doing to TRP doesn’t fit any of these. TRP just causes Reddit more financial harm than they do gain. So they don’t want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:53 PM
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The answer is no. There’s no political motive for the “censorship”. It’s purely financial.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:52 PM
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My social circle is quite varied. Plenty wish to but they don’t succeed at that endeavor. Even more of them don’t wish to settle down until their 50s and 60s but it’s hard for them because they’re old men still chasing young women who don’t want to date them unless sufficient cash is part of the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:48 PM
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It can be said for sure. At least based on what he’s presented himself as offering and how he’s presented her as being. In her particular case, he’s barely hitting the bottom line and she at the very least could hit for the rung above it if she chose to stop being hung up on a random guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:47 PM
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most of the AFBB posts hae a ppatern where the current hubby or bf gets lukewarm love and enthusiasm and even if he asks why she just tells him that she is not that kind of person. So he should leave. Sounds like they’re incompatible, part ways with her and find someone who treats you how you want to be treated. the sub text being that she is kust not like that for him. So break up. Frequently the man is simply inexperienced and has never experienced desire greater than that ad accepts her bound…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:46 PM
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Yup it’s really sad. Social skills seem to be taking a nosedive especially among younger people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:41 PM
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It’s capitalism. If you don’t like it, pour your own money into a private platform and run it as you see fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:40 PM
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You don’t have to be to do better than a man who won’t even make you a daily fwb. Any woman can do better than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 07:39 PM
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Whether she’s looked or not we can say it definitively. There’s millions of men on this planet and this guy isn’t offering her anything. She can find better than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:42 PM
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Which still would’ve happened in the past. Now there’s more stigma and risk for the men doing that than there was though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:41 PM
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Sometimes it’s big events in the city like art showings or cultural fests where the more extroverted members of the friend group just talk to people who are there by themselves or in smaller groups. Then they get brought into our fold and they talk to everyone or whoever was interested in them. If it’s a small friends only gathering like a dinner, house party, bowling etc. then someone in the group who knows that person invites them and introduces them to the rest of the group. The friend group …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:41 PM
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I’m disagreeing with you because he’s not the best option she has. There’s no ifs about it. Not being argumentative.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:10 PM
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Virgin men would fall in the category of not getting sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:04 PM
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I guess it depends on where you live. I saw it happen just last week. I previously went to an event with mutual friends and one of my buddies thought a woman that showed up was cute. So he told our friend to invite her out again with us last week and he got her number and they’ve been talking. I’ve also witnessed the more straightforward approach where the mutual friend is asked to pass along compliments and a request for contact information.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:03 PM
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It wouldn’t. He’s not the best option she has if she hasn’t taken the time to look. They’re not exclusive so it’d be smarter of her to go “window-shopping” and see what’s out there before going all in with a guy that barely likes her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:01 PM
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There's no shot there were more fuckboys in a time period where there was no birth control and sex outside of marriage was more heavily scrutinized than in modern times where we have birth control, abortion and less sexual scrutiny. There was birth control.It just wasn’t as good. There were also ways to induce abortions. The women that came to be known as witches who were burned in some parts of the world were often times female herbalists who could whip up a brew to get rid of unwanted pregnanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:00 PM
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She is very smart. Because the longer I keep her around the more I fall for her. So even dumber because this means she has loves le qualities that she could go and use to seduce a better man. And it's not because she's being sweet, sexy and loving all the time, it's because I'm realising this is genuinely how she is. So she’s a good catch and could fishing elsewhere but is too dumb to see it. I still do wanna fuck around unfortunately, I've got so many options now that I never realised I had a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:55 PM
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They’ll half admit it. They’ll admit these men are tempted to but claim that they don’t because no one wants them. When in reality the same way he flashed money to get a wife, he can flash money to get a side piece or 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:52 PM
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This reads more as someone who has fallen in love with AI looking for validation
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:51 PM
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Exactly. They’re not being kicked off government run platforms. Privately run companies are following the money and if you’re a threat to their bottom line you’re getting voted off the island.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:48 PM
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I’m sure there’s a lot of smart tech savvy men in TRP. Why not make a new app for men with those views to go to? If the censorship is actually that bad then there’ll surely be a gap in the market for it. Could be quite lucrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:46 PM
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If they don’t meet on dating apps or at school they usually meet at events or social gatherings hosted by mutual friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:44 PM
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They did. You didn’t need as much to he considered a stud and brothels were a lot more abundant. Habitan paramours also wasn’t as looked down upon for men back then like it is now. I’m assuming you cared since you brought up the fact that they can be husbands. They can’t. They’re just as under qualified as the women they engage with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:34 PM
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They can still do what women with little options do. Be single and occupy your time with other things if you can’t find or attract someone worth wholeheartedly committing to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:33 PM
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Good for them. Everyone should have the same mentality. Be a good partner(whether that’s sexually, romantically etc) and be quick to move on if the person you’re involved with isn’t providing what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:10 PM
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She’s not smart. If she was she’d invest less in him and pursue other options. Not everyone is looking for love but based on his account of the situation, she is. Sticking around hoping to get it from a man who already told you know is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:09 PM
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True but it does have to do with learning as well. More publicly available knowledge on the upsides and downsides of relationships is what’s allowed people to know there’s other options out there. It’s also what’s emboldened people to fight back against single shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:08 PM
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Never underestimate the power of a good dicking… women will lose all common sense under its influence and make irrational decisions lol Like internationally doxxing men. Something fuck boys of the past didn’t have to deal with. it’s why dominant men are usually swimming with options despite their arrogant behavior, women love that toxic shit if he’s hot haha What they get out of those options and the risks that come with it have changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:06 PM
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It was an insufficient explanation. Your focus should be on whether or not she’s making you happy and doing what you require/desire in a relationship. If not drop her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:53 PM
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We’re comparing fuckboys to fuckboys. Not fuckboys to average men of the past. Women were less picky back in the day so the barrier to entry to be a stud was lower. Most fuckboys can’t get/stay married because they’re bad husbands. They used to be able to get husband privileges without the ring but women are less willing to do self-less tasks for random men than they used to be. Even though they have more means to do so than their foremothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:52 PM
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They’re getting less too. Lower quality sex, higher prevalence of STDs, social harassment now with being blasted on social media etc. the women are also less devout. They’re getting somewhat the same amount of sex but for them to get money, housing, cars etc they have to put in more work than they once did because women are much more easily able to dig into their business and put them on blast.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:37 PM
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Either way though. Why is what she did with her exes the determinant for you? Either you like how she treats you and you stick around, or you don’t like it and bounce if it’s something she’s not open to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:35 PM
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Not really. She’s not very smart if she’s sticking around hoping for something a guy already shot down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:30 PM
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Which is stupid. She should end things. There’s other men out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:30 PM
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They have learned. Which is why more and more men are single and the ones that aren’t are getting less out of women than their forefathers. Men just don’t care that much though unless they’re in the group that’s not getting sex as easily as they used to. Or not getting sex at all. Men will do what they want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:28 PM
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How so? Both relationship dynamics can be viewed through a parent-child lens for the same reasons. The willingness to enter it changes based on the gender of the participants though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:24 PM
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It’s not because they’re not masculine. It’s because they’re viewed as the “wrong” kind of masculine. They’re viewed as the wild, untamed, green kind of masculine. The ones that’s challenging to deal with. While older men are viewed as the competent, responsible, level headed kind of masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:23 PM
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So then it’s just different views on what competition is. Many people wouldn’t consider it a loss unless you ran the race and were slower than the other competitor. To piggy back off your analogy though. Everyone isn’t running the race. Some of them refuse to run it or drop out once they realize what’s happening and they choose a new path. They go chill on the grass with other likeminded people who don’t want to run the race.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:22 PM
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In any of my comments. I never said all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:20 PM
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About what most men want: Proactive, horny but chaste young women who will be loyal to them. I’m not RP, but I am a man. The obsession with “the wall” wouldn’t be so rampant if so many men weren’t ultimately desiring young women. It’s not all but it’s enough to be a noticeable trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 01:20 PM
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It’s not because youth is viewed as feminine. Its because youth is associated with immaturity, recklessness, ignorance, inexperience, incompetence among other things. Men view these traits as neutral to positive in women they’re dealing with. While women view them as neutral to negative. Physically speaking both genders view young people as most attractive. However when picking a partner the physical isn’t the only criteria you’ll judge by. A woman could look at 2 men, one in his 20s the other i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:02 PM
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They don’t deny it they just don’t participate. The crux of the issue is how you define competition, winning and losing. If someone shows up to run, realizes it’s a race, then goes home. Did that mean they were in a competition that they lost? Did the other person win? Its similar with dating if they find out that after a certain stage they’re not the only one you’re talking to and they bow out what would you define that as? Differences in how ti view that is why some people view dating as a com…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:48 PM
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Older men do not look better than younger men. They’re viewed as more capable for sure though because generally they have established careers, they’ve paid off or paid down any student debt if they have any etc. If women tell you you’re too young for her its not not because she thinks you’re ugly. It’s because she thinks you’re childish and incapable of giving her what she wants(a stable relationship, money etc) that or she’d feel like a cradle robber dating you. Its social/emotional aspects tur…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:44 PM
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They’re definitely not hotter. 40 yo men just have more “value” than 20 yo men because they generally have more money to support a family or spend on dates. Speaking in terms of purely looks though men in their 20s and typically more attractive than men in their 40s. They tend to have fuller hair, better looking skin, better bodies, better sexual stamina, better fertility etc. Barring the exceptions to the rule the only thing older men have on younger men is money and emotional/mental maturity. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:40 PM
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Its true if the woman didn’t take care of herself and the man makes more money and looks better. Otherwise things remain relatively the same for both parties. If the man was on his financial grind but he’s still ugly then he has more options because he can play beta bucks or splenda/sugar daddy to women where he didnt have that option as a young man. He’ll now also have money to be a passport bro. If he has more money and he also worked on himself to look better he’ll have more success that way …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:34 PM
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After date 2-3 is a generally a safe bet. You also have to read the specific woman you’re with. Someone women are ok moving faster than others for their own reasons. Some will sleep with you before they even know your full name, others will want to wait until they’re comfortable enough to ask you to go get STD tested with them. Just read how she acts on the date. How does she respond to you escalating physical contact, is she escalating it herself? Etc. That will help you gauge things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:29 PM
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The complaints from men who date average are about mens feelings towards average women and their level of satisfaction or lack thereof with what average women bring to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:21 PM
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Them wanting a man to do all the work in the bedroom doesn't mean they won't participate in the behavior I described. You’re clearly ill informed about fetish communities. Wanting a man to do all the work in the bedroom isn’t a key component of male dom. Thats something that could happen in male dom, fem dom or vanilla relationships. It just means the woman is a pillow princess. The key component is her being submissive to him. This can extend beyond the bedroom because being submissive to her d…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:19 PM
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Its correct. Where did I say all men are the exact same?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:13 PM
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I understand men quite clearly. You just don’t want the cat out of the bag but its already out there. I’m a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:12 PM
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And nobody guarantees the man that the woman won't leave the man for a taller, more handsome and richer man. Which is exactly why I said the following: “The only way for women to truly mitigate the hurt from that is to invest in themselves and make sure they have a community and things that make them happy outside of a partner.” Set yourself up to be happy and fulfilled in life regardless of romantic success. Then you’ll do fine. If you get a healthy relationship then it’ll be the cherry on top …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:11 PM
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According to some men they can still like someone they don’t respect. Its like having a likable subordinate. Also women can like people they’re not attracted to and be attracted to people they don’t like. So alone wouldn’t be the determining factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:09 PM
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As I said. Difference in interpretation. To me it read purely as a general statement in response to the op. So you believe men’s complaints here about dead bed rooms, entitlement, arrogance, delusion etc from average women, lack of emotional support and empathy from average women implies that they’re happy and satisfied with average women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:53 AM
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I'd say that an average woman in her late teens and 20s living anywhere but the most rural of places easily has dozens of men in her sphere that would happily get into a relationship with her or fuck her. Fuck her sure. Getting into a relationship though? That depends on how she looks and the number of men willing to do it and also treating her well within the relationship drops the uglier she is. It's more about the amount of people in her orbit at any given time. Some women get attention from …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:51 AM
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Settling down with a man isn’t going to spare you from men’s fetish for young women. They’ll still compare you and in the worst cases trade you in if you settle down in your twenties. The only way for women to truly mitigate the hurt from that is to invest in themselves and make sure they have a community and things that make them happy outside of a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:47 AM
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I’m confused on what this has to do with what inject said? But it could just be the sleep deprivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:45 AM
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Maybe you’re trans. But finding your body attractive is one thing but wishing to be another gender sounds like you have some more complex feelings going on there. Talk to a professional.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:39 AM
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It’s not. It’s an general statement not an absolute one. No more than the one made in op anyway. As a general statement it is true. Plenty of men date or pursue average women despite their dissatisfaction with them. This sub and the complaints men have against women is testament to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:35 AM
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What’s the time frame you’re using to determine this? 40 men in a day? A month? A year? That changes things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:33 AM
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They don’t. It’s an over-exaggeration. Some women have hundreds of men in their dms, some have dozens and some have none. It depends on how beautiful she is. Women who don’t have dudes in their dms can still get men but they’d have to be the ones to initiate in some way. Explicitly or passively. While other women just have to exist and get that type of attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:33 AM
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Seems we interpreted things differently then. I views them using “absolutely” the same way I view people using “literally” when they mean “virtually” or “practically”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:30 AM
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Interesting comment, I agree. But you can also take it one step even further. Gender roles/expectations are taught within the family. The family tends to teach/reinforce the expectation of society, it’s kind of a feed back loop. This is purely my opinion but social influences have more of an impact than familial ones these days. Families are no longer in the business of raising their female children to be primarily wives and mothers for other families anymore. If anything it is an afterthought. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:29 AM
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Okay I feel like we're splitting hairs here but on the minor point of whether or not the men leave I think I did add in after review because... Average men are absolutely not satisfied with the average woman. ... this was the main point of the thread. You are defending an absolute statement about half the population on earth and you believe by pointing out that it's possible to occur. We’re not splitting hairs you keep switching up the main point you’re arguing. Is it an absolute statement in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:21 AM
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I mean I'm from the US. I'd have to move a long way away or date an immigrant to find someone with a different vibe. There’s women who are into male dom in the US. If they’re secular you’ll find them on fetlife or other niche sites/communities. The majority of them are devoutly religious though and would expect you to be a believer as well. If that’s not your vibe dating a new immigrant from a stricter patriarchal country or traveling to one yourself is your best bet. That's separate to the poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:16 AM
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That’s not the thesis of the thread. That’s your bias. The thesis of the thread is that average men also feel dissatisfaction with average women. Which I showed already. Whether or not it’s compelling enough to cause them to leave the relationship or stop pursuing average women altogether is a different story. In my opinion many men will just stay with women they don’t like very much because she’s still a better option than him being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:27 PM
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It could, but generally it doesn't, because the whole point is that it's normalized for women to set up a dynamic where they are the "owner" of the relationship via shaming. It depends on what community you come from. Some it’s more normal than others. If you don’t like those type of women don’t date them or date them but don’t live with them. Easy solution. You're missing my point. The point is that whatever level of cleaning the male partner's at, there are a lot I understand your point and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 09:24 PM
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You’re adding your own biases. I never said or supported the point that they’re too entitled. It didn’t come across to me that that’s what the other poster was saying anyway. My only point was that men can absolutely be dissatisfied in their relationships with average women but some will still stay or keep pursuing them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 08:34 PM
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If alignment means the female partner makes the decisions and the male partner carries them out, then I guess so. Alignment could also mean the male partner making the decisions and the female partner carrying them out. The female partner making the decisions and carrying them out herself or the male making the decisions and carrying them out himself. Whatever the dynamic both parties have to be on the same page. If not they’ll argue and arguments can quickly devolve into unhealthy communication…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 08:32 PM
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It’s more than that too. It’s also women globally trading stories about the downsides of dealing with men. Watching their mothers and grandmothers(who also have more economic freedom) and not wanting certain aspects of their lives etc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 08:26 PM
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The person you’re replying to is responding to the op which is in the context committed dating. The sources I linked touched on male sexual and romantic dissatisfaction in their relationships with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 08:25 PM
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21400335/ https://time.com/4978727/bromance-male-friendships/?amp=true
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 08:04 PM
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Your take on third spaces is a big one I’d also say competition between women’s ideal desires and men’s is another. Disagreement on what a good or great relationship looks like with little to no compromise leads to less rising disinterest in dealing with each other. More so from women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 08:02 PM
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Not because they’re satisfied or happy but because being single might be the worse choice for his situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:59 PM
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It’s not BS. Plenty of men if they feel they’re in a somewhat safe space will let it slip that they’re not content with their average partner. They’ll stay with her anyway though as long as she’s providing more or better benefits than being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:58 PM
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How does this explain the falling birth rates in countries where tinder and dating apps aren’t as popular? Imo the rise in the pickiness of women is due to a combination of factors. Dating apps are just one piece of the pie. If you removed them from the equation there’d still be pickiness and low birth rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:56 PM
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I know I’m correct. You’re confusing what men accept vs what men desire. Men want proactive, horny, faithful, beautiful, agreeable young women. In reality they’re willing to accept a woman that has at least one or two of those traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:51 PM
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Typo. I meant to say you can want more while knowing what your reality is. Meaning you can acknowledge that in reality you’re broke asf while still fantasizing about driving a Porsche.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:49 PM
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Yep. That’s why most choose not to post their partner or male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:48 PM
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Oh they absolutely are, I guess because I reunite several highly desirable qualities that are very rare in a man, and that women can enjoy without the need of me offering some form of commitment I guess. Sounds like a good deal. You get the perks of a relationship without the drama and domestic labor of dealing with a man full time. They could land a monogamous relationship with a man right now if they wanted, but they would lose the benefit of seing me regularly, as I do not condone cheating an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:47 PM
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No they won't. They will. You clearly not a man but yet you think you know what all men are like. I never said all are like that. Just enough for it to be a concern for influencers who have predominantly male followings.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:40 PM
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Even a minority leaving could still hurt her brand. Let’s say 75% of your followed stay, but you lose 25%. The majority stay but you still suffer a steep loss in social media world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:40 PM
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If she’s under 30 maybe. Some are some aren’t. If they’re over 40-50 they generally take themselves off the market and focus on other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:38 PM
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Expand?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:37 PM
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It's not about compatibility. It's about power and shame. It’s about compatibility. There will be no power struggles about how to run the house if you’re in alignment on how it should be run. No, she will. Or start mocking him as being effeminate for cleaning too much - I've seen that too. So dump her. Nope. Even if guys do more chores and clean more the women still treat them like goons, and still lose interest in them and break up with them at the same frequency. That’s never been my experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:33 PM
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It gives you more options to find love, but paradoxically it also creates more traps that make just take you time to actually find true love. The consensus here seems to be that having more options is a privilege. Given that’s the attitude when women’s options in dating in comparison to men is discussed. Not to mention that most rich people work over 50 hours a week, they are not necessarily abundant on time to go out and date. They don’t have to. They can afford to pay matchmakers, dating coach…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:32 PM
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That is mostly a progressive moral panic and fearmongering. Is it? https://www.help.senate.gov/chair/newsroom/press/republican-senator-blocks-bill-to-codify-americans-right-to-contraception- https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-declare-war-sex-education-seek-restrictions-public-schools-1777650 For instance, some Black Democrats are very conservative and also oppose abortion, there are Republicans who are libertarians and have no issue with abortion. Then there are black democrats who don’t oppos…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:30 PM
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No, because if it wasn't for that initial conflict something else would come up - it'd be about their social calendar, or childcare, or something else to where the woman in question can feel like she attacked and won against her male partner. The childcare can be included in cleaning as children tend to be messy especially while young. Everything still goes back to my original advice. If you’re incompatible, break up. No, because if he starts cleaning things to a high standard, or is cleaner tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 05:15 PM
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It’s useful in terms of spotting red flags and things you should do to protect yourself. Not so much outside of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 05:11 PM
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You wrote your comment in a way that implies you’re painting all older women with the same brush. You wrote old, bitter jaded women vs older women who are bitter and jaded. The way you wrote it can give off the implication that their age is the reason for them being bitter and jaded which is how people are taking it. While the latter could still be misinterpreted it’s less likely because it separates their age and the negative character traits more.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 05:09 PM
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If they older women are bitter and jaded why is that? Probably because they’ve experienced some heart break. So even if they are hurt by their past and speaking from that there is still a lesson. What did she do that led her to be burned by a man/men and what can you as a young woman do differently to avoid that fate?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 05:07 PM
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The men who label older women bitter hags are right sometimes. More often than not though it’s a triangulation tactic. Every woman was 18 once and dating dynamics do change but some things remain the same. Women will warn younger women of mistakes they made or saw other make. As well of the ill intentions of some older men. This isn’t beneficial to men. It’s most beneficial to men for women to be naive, malleable and accessible. Allowing younger women to listen to older women with an open mind w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 05:05 PM
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Who cares? He wouldn’t be there if she was ugly, infertile or not what he was looking for otherwise. Being wealthy gives you more privilege to find love anyway. You have more energy and time to focus on love and romance when you can afford to meet all you other basic needs. If you’re really that concerned about it though just stick to dating wealthy women or women from wealthy families.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 05:00 PM
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Doesn’t seem like much of a minority. Some are just getting better at hiding their hands and letting the MTG types do the dirty work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:58 PM
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Yes, but it's not a matter of "women want a clean household and men don't." It's "men and women have different ideas of how to manage a household and many women are unwilling to compromise and will resort to shaming tactics and psychological abuse to get the upper hand." It is a matter of this. Everything else you’re saying is a derivative of that initial conflict. As your concerns here are how arguments about that devolve into toxicity. Which is why my advice is to just break up and move out if…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:57 PM
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They oppose it because of the population implications. Quite a few of them oppose birth control, emergency contraceptives and Sex Ed as well. Some just started scrubbing these things from their campaign website due to the reaction after their success with Roe.V.Wade. Many even took down their ties to being anti-abortion. I don’t have to lie about anything. Conservatives see the numbers declining for a certain demographic and they would like to see it boosted for various reasons. So they support …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:54 PM
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For some it is that deep. If you ask women they’ll tell you themselves why they don’t post. Some who don’t post their partners are like you, for others it’s much more intentional.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:51 PM
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I wasn’t asking to see what your type is. I was asking to gauge the likelihood of them having other potential suitors outside of you. Which if they’re not ugly, chances are they probably do they’re just rejecting/ignoring them in favor of you. Minus the 29 year old it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:50 PM
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https://www.asanet.org/women-more-likely-men-initiate-divorces-not-non-marital-breakups/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:49 PM
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Except studies on non-marital heterosexual relationships show men end them just as much as women. https://www.asanet.org/women-more-likely-men-initiate-divorces-not-non-marital-breakups/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:49 PM
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Even if it’s building a house or the like they’ll still lose male followers if they’re attractive. The soft core porn creators have a steeper drop. However no matter what kind of content you make as a woman, if your following is mostly male, you’ll lose some once you post a partner. It’s because the men watching you are fantasizing about you as a pretty woman even if your content isn’t geared towards that. Introducing a male partner destroys the fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:47 PM
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Women project hard on how men view women. As men aren't the ones looking for women to provide, do the chores, plan dates, etc etc. Men are looking for this. They’re just not successfully finding it unless they’re a certain type of guy. Men aren't the ones who are all about viewing women as to what women can do for them. You women are all about what men can do for you all while doing nothing in return. Again, men are this way. In the modern west most men are just unable to successfully execute th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:45 PM
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Yes they do. It’s like people who dream of having a Porsche when they can barely afford to take the bus. You can’t want more while still knowing what your reality is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:43 PM
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He’s probably following thirst trappers and/or E-girls. Those kinds definitely hide their BFs as a business move.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:15 PM
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This is false. Women initiate more divorces but for non-marital break ups men initiate them just as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:12 PM
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It depends on what kind of content they make. If their audience is mostly male they’ll lose followers. If it’s mostly female the relationship can often boost their account and make them more successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:08 PM
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The women that do that usually subscribe to one of 2 mindsets. Never publicly claim a man that’s not your husband. Or Men will embarrass you as soon as you claim them. Imo though it’s more common for men to not post the women they’re dating than for women to not post men. Men beg women for a lot of things and social media posts typically aren’t one of them. You’ll see women complaining and picking fights with their boyfriends about not being posted though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:06 PM
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Not really. If it works for them it works for them. That’s the beauty of the west you’re more free to have whatever relationship style you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 11:46 AM
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They do, and they’re a spring board. Keep looking into it. The numbers keep rising every year. Which included the 17 year gap between one of the links and now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 11:45 AM
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Definitely not true. The emotion is just expressed differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:48 AM
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Conservatives do. Yet the ones in the US are cooling their jets on that one after Roe V. Wade debacle.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:46 AM
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Not really. I guess it’s cultural though. I’ve always heard the sentiment it’s her fault if she let him slide in unprotected.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:45 AM
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I know and I read them. Im refuting your claim that I didn’t know the numbers. The numbers are there for you to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:43 AM
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There’s women that are definitely ok with that. Their husbands or boyfriends live modestly but they pay all the bills and give her money for whatever frivolities she wants. In dating it’s like that too, they’re ok with you driving a modest car as long as you’re paying for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:41 AM
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The types of people that get manipulated are those that give off unconfident, overly empathetic vibes with a poor ability to set and maintain boundaries. If that’s you, you have a higher risk of being victimized. The women that do this men are the same as men who do it to women. They’re the dark triad type that gets off on harming others or they only care about themselves and live life that way without caring who they hurt. Or they’re hurt people who will use you as a surrogate for the person wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:38 AM
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You don’t have to buy a flashy car. You just to spend money on them for them to care. That also depends on the kind of women you want to attract though. Paying for a bunch of nice dinners, for her to get her hair and nails done, paying to put gas in her car etc would all also signal to her that you’re a capable provider without you having to break the bank on sports cars or flashy items that depreciate in value. However blowing money on women could also still be looked at as a bad investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:27 AM
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If you’re trying to go the route of using money to get women you need to spend it on them or they won’t care. Like that one song goes “Who cares if he gettin’ it if he ain’t spending it”.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:24 AM
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Cool, that's not what I was talking about. It is. You’re talking about arguing over cleaning. Or maybe the woman in question could stop being so shitty and toxic. And live in a dirty home or have to do all the domestic labor? Breaking up or living separately sounds like the better choice. Many women don't; it's kind of a meme for a reason. Every woman I've ever lived with has left the shower drains clogged in that way. Never seen it so I’ll take your word for it. The dirtiest woman I lived with …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:21 AM
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And? Plenty of things humans evolved to do but we don’t always do them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:16 AM
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Now, the truth here is these three gals are not "single by choice". Not THEIR choce, at least. They are single because I didn't chose them (yet... The 23 gal is an amazing prospect kid you not). Are they ugly? Because WOMEN DO WANT RELATIONSHIPS more than being single, but with the men THEY WANT, and if they don't have that man, then THEN they would prefer to be single. You’re just confirming what I’ve said all along this thread. If they can’t get the men they want and self improvement fails or …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:15 AM
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Women aren’t perfect. They’re just free to exercise their dating options same as men. If you’re unsatisfied with your dating pool you have the choice to be single as well. Pick whatever’s best for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:04 AM
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You really invested in being the victim aren't you? But hey all men right? As women are simply perfect and wonderful. The victim of what? Remind me again who put in all the effort into the dating process again. Who planned the dates, who payed for the dates, who had to do all the impressing, etc etc. Again remind me who did all that work again? Me. As if women are totally competent partners and don't need to do any sort of improvement at all. Many aren’t. None of them have come to me asking my o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:03 AM
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They shouldn’t. Which is why I don’t get why men take offense to women viewing you the same way many of you view women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:01 AM
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What do you mean? They admit it because they know where they stand. They know who they can attract. If they don’t like who they attract and can feasibly date they’ll stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:01 AM
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Doesn’t mean you can’t do it. Monkhood is the better choice in a situation like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:00 AM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5560421/ https://www.keranews.org/health-science-tech/2015-05-12/why-more-women-are-having-vaginal-rejuvenation-surgery?_amp=true
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:59 AM
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A few thousand a year and growing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:13 PM
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They have surgeries to replace vaginal strength if you’re too lazy to exercise
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 08:00 AM
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Why should you aspire to smashing hoes? Why not aspire to monkhood?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:54 AM
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Men already do this. You’re kind of late to the game. There’s men that will still marry regardless though for their own reasons. Plus men that will “marry” but not file the legal paperwork because they want a wedding or they want to gift a wedding to their forever girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:53 AM
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Oh ok gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:51 AM
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It is when your partner has unreasonable demands as to what needs to be done, or unilaterally decides where all the dishes go, doesn't tell you, and then patronizes you when you put them back where they always did go, for example. Wanting a clean house isn’t unreasonable and if you keep on top of chores equally you already know where everything goes. What if they disagree? Then the shaming tactics and toxic behavior are likely to come out. What "needs" to be done can vary, and compromise needs t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:51 AM
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No, it won't even require that, just for him to not read her mind as to how she wanted a task done (and honestly not even then; they're looking to use shaming tactics to get the upper hand in a relationship). Mind reading isn’t required to know what chores need to be done in the house you live in unless you didn’t grow up cooking and cleaning much or at all. That's not the power. The power is who gets to enforce their standards on how things get done - and even in your example the female partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:45 AM
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You said they were friends initially, which is what threw me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:42 AM
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I am not sure about that. I am because a lot of the complaints are about artificiality, the feel, maintenance etc. The sex bots that we will live to see will still have these downsides. They’ll be in the uncanny valley. They’ll just be able to move themselves. They’re still a long ways off from being indistinguishable from humans though. I am not sure about that either. How so? Instead of having to buy/use a flesh light or doll, VR Set and AI prompts everything will be in one. I believe investin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:42 AM
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So... the current options are not good enough to actually be a replacement that satisfies the need. That’s a matter of opinion. Market improvements are always good but the complaints about current products just don’t make sense to me. As the complaints of the stuff now will still exist in the sex bots. You’ll just have the convenience of everything in one vs having to use different products in conjunction. I don't know how many. I know I invest in any technology that I believe will eventually en…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:21 AM
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They can already do that. They just don’t like the current options and desire more sophisticated ones. How many are donating to the development of these options though? Who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:10 AM
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Hope you dropped them as friends and got new ones
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:09 AM
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That's typically because women in committed relationships insist on being the final authority on household matters, with the male partner as subordinate to her. So the men back off, thinking, fairly, that if they want all the power they can take all the responsibility. Many women, however, want their male partners to take responsibility while they retain all the power and the last word. After the men mess up. Whether they mess up on purpose or accident depends on the guy. They’d love for the guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:08 AM
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Or what her options for casual sex are compared to her tastes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:59 AM
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The wife and husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:58 AM
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If this was the 1970s sure. These days there’s too much knowledge out there for women to just nuke humanity against mend will by tanking the birth rate beyond repair. It’s already happening in many developed nations. By the time men get that annoyed with women being single sex bots will be a thing to pacify the masses of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:58 AM
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They go further than that and encourage you to find meaning in other aspects of your life, deep dives into why you self evaluate the way you do, un-learning toxic life scripts and building new ones etc. they’re very well rounded.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 10:50 PM
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As a general rule, they never coerce their wives to raise those illegitimate children as their own. It costs zero dollars not to be willfully obtuse. You’d be surprised. Plus they can still take the wife’s resources to raise the child. Using funds from the joint account to do x when it’s really a lie and a cover to pay for his mistress and their kid(s).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 10:48 PM
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Self love oasis, heal with Darlene, shadow work, a huge chunk of the self help genre of books etc
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 10:11 PM
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It’s one of them. There’s others besides that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 08:50 PM
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Consistently enough that they don’t masturbate? For my friend group it was 50/50. The only ones who hooked up during covid were the ones who had been seeing those guys. One marriage spawned that way. The rest got on the rose bandwagon.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 08:49 PM
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Most guys don’t help out without their partner asking first. It’s improving but as of now women still do more housework and they’re the ones playing manager and assigning chores even if the man is willing to help. If the woman’s standards of clean are higher how would it be beneficial to live with a man who is messier than her? She’d either have to come down to his level which is an uncomfortable level for her or make up for the level of cleaning he doesn’t want to do. In either case being singl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 08:48 PM
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Their reply doesn’t say that at all. They said the man doesn’t have to be handsome and perfectly behaved. He can be a scumbag loser. second bit made no mention of looks. Meaning the man could be handsome or he could be ugly and be a scumbag loser. You mentioned the handsome types I mentioned the ugly types.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 07:07 PM
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It definitely is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 07:01 PM
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The same way yours was.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:59 PM
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I guess. Most people don’t want to labor for no reward though so it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:59 PM
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It does.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:58 PM
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It’s also possible to be ugly and a scumbag loser
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:52 PM
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I disagree. Some men don’t have early red flags. They’ll present as dad of the year during the pregnancy but then dip when the baby is here because it’s harder than he expected or he gets cold feet. What women should do though is to abandon the kids first. Drop them off with the dads. Paying child support and sending birthday cards is a lot cheaper and easier than being the primary parent. If the dad isn’t psychotic let him do the heavy lifting and you relax and be the fun part time parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:52 PM
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If you want to put it in more harsh language they don’t view them as worthless. They view them as dangerous, a liability or a threat in terms of romantic partnership. If they were worthless they’d probably have no impact. In reality there’s a risk of them having a negative impact.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:45 PM
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It really doesn’t. As the baseline is people don’t want to be around people they don’t enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:44 PM
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They might not be fucking top men. Plenty of women just masturbate while single.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:44 PM
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Exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:43 PM
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Not to men to women. If you’re below average looking your best bet is probably being a Splenda daddy. If you’re average looking there’s hope. Curate a clean, flattering personal style vs just following trends. Like wearing clothes that fit well, make you look elongated, colors that suit your complexion etc. Get a signature haircut or two that really flatters your features well and makes you look more cut and chiseled. If you can grow facial hair do the same with your facial hair. Style it in a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:42 PM
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Wrong partner in the holistic sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:24 PM
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Stay single for women means celibacy as well. They’ll be single and getting off with their vibrator or dildo because even that sometimes is better than their dating prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:24 PM
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Generally it doesn’t. If she’s not into the guy she’s not probably not getting off. She’s essentially just wasting her time serving as a human masturbatory aid in a way that could potentially pose a risk to her health. It sounds harsh but the way men and women experience sex is different. For women they need to be attracted to their partner, they also need to feel comfortable with them. Then you can get into the physical mechanics of her getting off. If the initial conditions aren’t there you co…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:22 PM
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It’s getting harder to understand when there’s resources to help people move away from that mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:17 PM
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Why does that make men feel jaded? Men feel the same about women they don’t desire or find unappealing.They don’t want to be around them. Think of it like this imagine being forced in the friendzone of a girl you thought was ugly and annoying, but you had to perform emotional labor to keep her happy or at the very least mildly content or you’d be labeled a bad friend, ruining a perfectly good friendship for no reason. You’d be blamed for causing 80% of friendship dissolution and the emotionally …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:16 PM
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Likable by men’s standards or women’s?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:09 PM
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Why would any of that scream arrogance? It’s like a salesman pushing a product you don’t want. Most people don’t react to kindly to being sent incessant pitches. Are they annoyed because they’re looking on a fellow working class individual just trying to make ends meet like them? Or are they annoyed because they keep getting offers/pitches for something they don’t want? You’ve proven my point though. You’re putting a very male spin on this when it’s not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:08 PM
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Women at an older age do the same. It’s actually older women that kind of started the “trend” for lack of a better term. They were the ones who would refuse to remarry or cohabitate after a divorce or death of their spouse. While younger women are now doing it more recently and bringing the conversation to social media. You’re right about the last bit though. Only time will tell what happens there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:06 PM
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The questing is then what is so bad about being around an average guy? If he’s holistically average like average income as well then aspects of her life will get worse with no pay off. She’ll be spending more money on groceries because now there’s two people to feed and he most likely eats more than her, statistically speaking her housework load will increase, her mental load will probably increase etc. all in all it’ll be a lot more work maintaining a relationship than being single. If she was …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:02 PM
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Yeah they’ll still have friends, family or a fwb if they want or celibacy with toys if they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 05:52 PM
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Why do you tie men’s worth to their sexual or romantic viability? Women don’t view them as worthless or invisible for those reasons. They know relationships take work and they just don’t see the pay off in doing it for someone they’re not into.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 05:47 PM
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He is dependent because his livelihood is financed by his parents. He has the means to be independent but he is still living like a dependent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:52 PM
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They still get dates sometimes with the same men they’re just not as pampered. Outside of that their options and prospects are the same as they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:50 PM
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It’s a psyop. The exaggeration serves that purpose. Men want beautiful young women to be more available and accessible to all types of men. If the women don’t choose to do that naturally the next idea is to coax or coerce them. Which is the point of exaggerations on the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:42 PM
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One that I also considered earlier and you shot me down. Women aren’t picking men as providers as much as they were in the past. What men and women want from a partner is shifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:40 PM
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So why did you comment disagreeing with me then if you also agree is exaggerated online and used as a psyop? How old are you if you don’t mind me asking? Dating trends have changed. Women in their thirties still can and do date younger men. It’s happening more these days than in the past. The only thing that a wall does to a woman is require her to put more effort into what kind of partner she is. In her twenties she could just show up and have dates paid for if she was not. While in her 30s she…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:35 PM
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So now you agree with my former statement about men fearing gold diggers and alimony and considering a potential partners income as a result? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:31 PM
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It’s because they view what constitutes being a wrong partner for women to be not that bad because from the male perspective of that kind of relationship it isn’t that bad. They can jive with being with a partner they don’t enjoy being around who they’re not attracted to because they can still get off during sex, avoid her if she’s too annoying, and it’s someone to help alleviate the burden of bills and domestic tasks. Whereas for a woman she has all of those downsides with none of the benefits …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:30 PM
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It barely affects women. So that’s not saying much. Idk why you keep bringing up your dating life lol. I’m not trying to convince you to date anyone you don’t want. I’m just saying the wall doesn’t play out in reality like the way it’s weaponized online.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:23 PM
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They are. I still stand on that. My other points/links about marital dynamics shows that. Pre-1980 80% of men paid roughly 100% of the bills. Post 2020 about 55% percentage of them are paying the majority of the bills but not always 100%. What does this drop in the number of male breadwinners mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:17 PM
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They don’t. Which is why the marital age, age of first birth has risen and they still get dates. Average guys can get with younger women if they’re providers. I see it all the time. Age impacts physical beauty for both sexes. There’s ways to compensate though so you dating pool isn’t empty at 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:15 PM
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No, just no. Like I mean how can you claim that with any amount of seriousness? And especially after saying this in one of your previous comments: Because it’s not my claim. It was the argument of the sex positive movement. If you’re asking for my specific opinion I don’t think women view sex the same as men, nor do they crave it in the same ways. There’s exceptions of course but that’s just my opinion. essentially saying that men's and women's libido is different. Yes. Women are enjoying sex, u…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:13 PM
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No you’re confusing related but still different things. Let’s put it this way. Let’s say you and I are both grew up middle class. We both made about 30k when we met. Then we get married and have kids. You take time off to take care of the kids before they go into preschool and you’re the one that picks them up and takes time off if they’re sick. Over time your 30k turns into 35,40k but mine turns into 60k,80k, 100k.So now I’m out earning you and I’m the breadwinner and I pay a larger portion of …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:55 PM
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Yes I just said that. Here it is again: Re-reading the chat it looks like you were the one that said that not me. I said financial dynamics are changing among western couples, people tend to marry within their class etc. Edit: quote from you “The fact is most couples make roughly similar amounts of money.“ Do you understand the difference between what class someone is and how they choose to split bills post maritally?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:47 PM
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Re-reading the chat it looks like you were the one that said that not me. I said financial dynamics are changing among western couples, people tend to marry within their class etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:39 PM
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From the discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:34 PM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:33 PM
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They think it’s due to arrogance or delusion because they project their own desires and thought process on women and it’s unfathomable to them that having an undesirable partner is worse than being alone. They get it if you put it in the context of things men find undesirable though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:05 PM
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Plenty of them do admit this to themselves and others. The “issue” is that if they’ve maximized the potential changes to improve their options or they’re too lazy to do that they’d rather just be perpetually single. While men would prefer them to settle down with an average or below average guy.Men view women’s refusal to settle down with these men as denial of or delusion towards her options. In reality she know what her options are and one of them is being forever single.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 11:43 AM
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This was just to remove the stigma from women engaging in free-spiritedness with regard to sex. It has 0 to do with their libido. Dig deeper. Their libido was a central component of the arguments. That women enjoy and want sex just as much as men and they should be free to explore that. So we actually didn't try my suggestion at all. We need to pump women with testosterone for them to reach male levels of sex craziness. Then we can see how that turns out and draw conclusions from that. We did tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 11:19 AM
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You don’t. Not inherently. Their personality can influence them to do things that benefit you, but it also could influence them to do things that are harmful or neutral towards you. That leads into the category of actions though, not personality. Either way their personality at the base is about them not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 11:15 AM
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Pilates this morning, then ended morning working with a 2 mile finished it in 18:12.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 10:55 AM
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They aren’t. Women don’t hit the wall hard in their thirties. The only thing that changes is that they’ll be expected to go 50/50 more often than when they were in their twenties. They still have the same level of access to the same men. Your looks don’t change that much from 20-30. Most Americans are fat so whatever she looked like at 20 she’s going to look like at 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 10:35 AM
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That’s good it means you have no delusions about why a young woman would go for an older man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 10:32 AM
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So why not end the struggle? If a man is finding his sex drive that hard to deal with a pill or shot being readily available can help to lower it. Similarly if your self esteem is in the gutters due to lack of sex changing attitudes about sex’s roles in someone’s value would help.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 10:31 AM
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Women already take testosterone if they want to. The sex positivity movement also did what you suggest for women to have sex more freely and openly. Didn’t work out in the way that a collective of men are happy with. So why not try the other way?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 10:26 AM
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They absolutely aren’t. Most men are born at the wall. If they’re not their physical prime is in their 20s. Financial prime is in their 40-50s. 30s is the sweet spot where you’re not so old that you’d be expected to buy birkins to have your wiener touched, but you’re old enough to be able to emotionally navigate well. If you followed normal development. In your 30s you just need to be an average provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 05:09 AM
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An average to slightly above average older man isn’t getting with younger women over younger men without paying. There’s younger hotter versions of him that are more fun, more stamina and better looking because they’re not as old.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:52 AM
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They’re complaining because they’re cheap not because they’re below average. They don’t want to be valued for their money and they don’t want to be providers so they complain. Men who are cool with providers know that as long as they bankroll everything they can date a younger woman foreign or domestic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:41 AM
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The ones off Reddit are complaining too. Just in different mediums. Twitter, Facebook tiktok or offline in their friend groups. They don’t want to be providers but ultimately as an older man you have nothing to offer a young woman that a young man can’t apart from money. So it’s part of life. Same if you get a woman overseas, more often than not finances are what make you a better prospect than men in her country.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:31 AM
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Yes, I agree with this. I imagined you were saying something different when you wrote that you wanted to reduce male libido through education. Something like "boys need to be taught that their desire to have sex bothering women and they are not entitled to anything". They’re already taught this which is fine but it doesn’t work if you also have a culture where men and boys feel like they’re less than for not having sex. That sex is something they need to obsessively seek out or they’re a lesser …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:30 AM
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They don’t. It’s why they complain endlessly about the state of dating and the state of women. Maybe the ones that go overseas but domestically they don’t have the option to go younger unless they’re willing to be a Splenda daddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:23 AM
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I added a beard. Hope that helps going forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:18 AM
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You can’t? Or you shouldn’t? Since you most definitely can there’s no laws again doing so. Plus sometimes if you can’t beat them join them is the best way to get a point across. If it still doesn’t work it’s at the very least cathartic. I already did my run for the day but I’ll hit the road in the morning and report back.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:17 AM
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I thought it looked like a femme man my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:14 AM
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That depends on what you consider a quality man? If it’s the Chad/Alpha bucks archetype that man wasn’t an option for women in their 20s when he was in his twenties. If it’s an average guy who has a stable career and is law abiding and not abusive women in their 20s aren’t an option unless he’s paying her bills. If he wants a more financially equal relationship where the woman is paying some or half of the bills he’s relegated to dating in his own age range. The wall doesn’t exist in the sense y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:12 AM
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Why? Men don’t shut up about their opinions on women’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:08 AM
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Am I a woman recommending it to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:07 AM
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Exactly my point. You using your anecdotal to fuel what you think is rooting in reality when it's not. It's the exceptions Would you consider yourself to be an exception? As you’re one of the examples I’m using. That' still doesn't make your previous statement true tho about women who don't expect men to intiate It does. As ultimately the expectations aren’t the issue it’s who has them. If you flipped the two groups men would be just as content because ultimately what they want is for women they…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:04 AM
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It’d be the same as female birth control. Some choose to take it, others don’t. Either way it’s readily available. Sex Ed should change because a big part of the issue now is men tying their self worth to sex. Removing that attitude would solve a lot of problems. Essentially though you’ve confirmed what I already thought. Presumed gender of the speaker impacts interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:01 AM
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And when companies decide to just exploit the smaller pool of employees vs hiring more? As they’re already doing. What then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:53 AM
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Aha. Yes. I know I’m right because I see it real time. A man is not going to care or remember the dating expectations of a woman he doesn’t care to date. He’ll be concerned about the dating expectations of women he does want to date. Let’s say he has two women. One he’s really into and she’s his idea type but she’s high maintenance the other he’s not as attracted to and she’s low maintenance. He’ll go for the low maintenance woman if he can date her. Whether or not he does he’ll still forever co…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:53 AM
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What happens to those people who get fired? What help will be available to them? The opportunity was missed because there’s not enough social cohesion to pull it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:50 AM
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They’re not minuscule at all. They’re just not alluring enough to drive men nuts with their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:48 AM
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I understand what you’re saying. Even if you’re 10 hours less productive at work your job security and quality of life in general would be at risk if things aren’t executed properly
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:40 AM
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You’re both right. The wall is used as a psyop to shame women into lowering their standards and marrying young or staying with a guy that’s not compatible. The contemporary usage of it leans more closely to “your dms will evaporate at 30” vs “your dating options will change at 30”. This is bolstered by the fact that it’s often coupled with insults or fatalisms like “have fun dying alone with cats”, “no man wants a woman over 30”, “women over 30 are in the danger zone” etc. Clearly the intention …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:36 AM
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There’s complaints about that too though. Like how would it work for people who need those extra 10 hours to make ends meet? What safety nets would be in place to ensure they have adequate access to food, shelter etc during the resistance period?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:30 AM
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Then that’s the social movement aspect. People are raising concerns about this. There’s just too much disagreement on what should be done about it. That’s why there’s no real progress. Some think violent resistance is the way, others grassroots protests, voting etc there’s not one large scale unified plan of action on how to proceed. Just infighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:26 AM
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I am being serious. There’s women who don’t expect initiation and ones who do. The ones who do expect it tend to fit conventional beauty standards way more than the ones who don’t. Though there are exceptions
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:23 AM
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It was in a conversation I was having here months ago where I brought up how bringing mens libidos down to match women and their attitudes via male birth control and education would solve a lot of issues. The replies to me were very upset by that suggestion
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:21 AM
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Are you referring to dating social movements or both? Either way many people are doing this. There’s just too much disagreement about what the end goal would be
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:18 AM
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They can be. There’s people with little to no interest in sex who still want to date
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:16 AM
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I find it funny how when I said this I was called a misandrist eugenicist 🤣🤣.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:16 AM
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They’re not obligated to. At least not in the west. They’ll just begrudgingly go along with it if their type wants that. There’s plenty of women who don’t expect that who men could date but they may not be the man’s type physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:15 AM
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Out of these 3 options A.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:12 AM
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Women just want peace and limited stress. They wanted jobs for the security. You have more financial control when you have a job vs when you’re a homemaker most of the time. Depending on a husband means you have the same fears as if you worked yourself(firings, layoffs, slow promotions etc) with no financial control. Since you’d only have as much leeway as he allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:09 AM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:57 AM
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Seems like I’m right
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:57 AM
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Their personality is the one thing that’s all about them and has nothing to do with you, how you benefit from them or what they can do for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:55 AM
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I’m a word reader.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:54 AM
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And?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:53 AM
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Yep exactly. There’s no way to please men unanimously. You can only satisfy a few of them or none at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:53 AM
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Nah it’s a male thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:51 AM
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They would exist because some men aren’t likable. While some are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:50 AM
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Ok? Brendan Fraser was pretty good looking when he was young. Idk who Micky Rourke is
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:50 AM
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You did. You ignored the changing financial dynamics of western couples to suit your bias in favor of men. Since you want to believe that men are incapable of being shallow when in reality mens preferences are morally equivalent to women’s. It does say why if you read what was linked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:04 PM
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I’ll continue to believe the truth and the facts. Men and woman are equally shallow. Ignoring stats in favor of your feelings and pretending there’s more to a cut and dry reality isn’t going to change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:59 PM
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It is a fact especially when you account for mens fear of gold diggers, alimony and them lamenting the burden of being the provider. Women are no more or less shallow than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:55 PM
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Facts don’t agree with your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:53 PM
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You do need some. Call your doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:47 PM
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Yes it is both for men. Your excuse would’ve flown decades ago but with dating apps and young people of multiple financial backgrounds living in metropolitan areas it’s a matter of assortative mating especially considering a rising number of partnered women pay 50% or more of the household bills. In the west the myth of men being benevolent and dating down is dying. They only did it in the past because they didn’t have much choice. Women didn’t have the earning potential they once did. Plus they…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:23 PM
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Finally something to argue against. Lol this sounds so sinister. The point was that men considered their conditions morally superior to others. Two of the conditions you mentioned are morally superior. Youth and beauty. Neither of these conditions are morally superior. All the conditions I mentioned are morally neutral. Same with the things women want in men. They’re all morally neutral/equivalent to each other. Neither are good or bad. Premise 1: loving someone for who what they are is morally …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:08 PM
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You don’t. It’s conditional
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:00 PM
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It’s both. Same for women as most people marry within their class.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 07:59 PM
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My thought process is the same. Men give youth, chastityX beauty and service as their answers. There’s exceptions on both sides but ultimately both parties are looking for someone who benefits and improves their lives. Some people may be more sympathetic to their genders desires in a partner but you shouldn’t mistake that for the requirements being more moral. Men are equally shallow in different ways. You simply agree with the ways in which they are shallow and mistake that for morality. You’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 07:42 PM
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I honestly believe it because I am. You being biased towards “your group” doesn’t mean your groups choices are morally superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 07:32 PM
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Sounds like I am. Choosing who to loved based on what benefits you doesn’t morally change because you align with your “in group” vs the “out group.”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 07:31 PM
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Youth, beauty, labor, social currency, sex etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 07:10 PM
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How can you say that when you’re not practicing that though?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 07:08 PM
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So just based on the merit of generalized problem solving associated with the limbic system you can make a strong case that women are more focused on relationships generally and men are more focused on problems and solving which is specific to less emotional parts of the brain, as well as typically less intuitive of their sorroundings. But because there's always different information coming out about this it's speculative. I see the evidence that women focus more on relationships than men every …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:43 PM
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Transactional relationships when you’re in one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:27 PM
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On what? Which part is confusing you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:26 PM
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Objectively it is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:11 PM
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Doing the thing you condemn makes you a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:51 PM
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They don’t feel it themselves. Their love is conditional. They just view their conditions for love as morally superior to the women who spurned them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:51 PM
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Women view relationships as men view objects, so women's pattern recognition in relationships will always be superior to men's with outlying exceptions. Please explain further. I don't listen to women at all when they cry because it's usually bullshit. Unless she's bae then I will that's ok. So the same applies here. The men aren’t being manipulated. They’re adults making a conscious choice as a fully autonomous human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:50 PM
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That’s awesome if they’re interested in pegging. If not I don’t really care. You’re welcome have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:48 PM
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It looked like security camera footage. Which makes sense as a lot of people put cameras in their yards just in case of intruders. So I highly doubt he didn’t know the camera was there and yet he still acted like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:33 PM
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The video didn’t look like she was recording him specifically. It looked like security camera footage that she just released. His views on divorce and his overall persona is why people are believing her. It’s fully aligned with his values.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:31 PM
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Isn’t the argument that men are supposed to be the smarter, more logical and more capable sex? How are women hustling them? Also do you accept the manipulation excuse when women cry about stupid things they did behind a man or woman they were into?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:29 PM
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No it just means they’re calling you out as a hypocrite
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:25 PM
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The men who believe women are unable to love are the ones who believe in a fairly tale version of unconditional love. They believe unconditional love means unconditional access and they believe unconditional love is common when it’s not. Not even for women and children. Most people have conditions for their love or at the very least for their love to also come with access.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:25 PM
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Yes my position is that bi men who want to be out should arrange their dating life accordingly. Unless they like being in the closet then continue on and lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:19 PM
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Is apathy a feeling? Or lack of feelings? It would take 1 million American dollars cash for me to believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:10 PM
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As I said. I don’t care and I don’t believe you. Why is that confusing? It’s cut and dry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:07 PM
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You can’t miss something that was never there. The goalpost is the same since the beginning. A lot of women love to be loving, kind and supportive to their friends. They do it sincerely and genuinely. Some men hate women so they project negatively and faux intellectualism onto that. Instead of just minding their business and letting happy friend groups be. https://hdr.undp.org/content/2020-gender-social-norms-index-gsni
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:05 PM
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You’re adding your assumptions onto my statements. First of all you can’t gauge an act over text. Secondly I never said it was the vast majority. Sounds like you’re telling on yourself there. I’m sorry you’re so self-hating. You should love yourself!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:03 PM
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You didn’t make any points.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:01 PM
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You don’t know what I have or haven’t seen. Is my English throwing you off? Please let me know what’s confusing. I don’t believe you. I thought that was plain and clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:00 PM
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Yes. So why are you surprised that there’s men who don’t like women and don’t want them to be happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:59 PM
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People have types but generally there’s common traits within a culture that will teeter you from the unattractive to the above average line. Like facial symmetry, nice teeth, nice thick hair etc. where types come into play is how above average someone finds you. Simply above average? Or smoking hot? That depends on their type. Either way they won’t find you ugly and won’t treat you as such of you meet the baseline requirements for your culture. Many men aren’t in relationships because they don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:59 PM
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I’m not just talking about genitals and secondary sex characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:55 PM
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I don’t believe you or the data. Times have changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:55 PM
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Break up and find someone new
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:53 PM
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You didn’t as I clearly stated that the reason they think that is because of the women they choose to date. Your evidence does not show that every woman dislikes bi men. So they could stick to dating women who are apathetic to dating bi men or who prefer to date bi men. That way they can be fully out. They choose not to though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:47 PM
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https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/im-a-successful-woman-who-pays-younger-men-to-date-me-this-is-what-we-all-get-out-of-it-219138 https://www.hellawealth.com/blog/work/cruise-job-gentlemen-hosts/ https://nypost.com/2021/10/27/im-a-sugar-mama-pay-my-man-15000-a-month-to-do-whatever-i-want/amp/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:41 PM
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There’s plenty. If you’re not into men and don’t look into OF you wouldn’t know though. Old ladies pay for hot dudes on cruises all the time. And they’ll pay for their whole lifestyle. Especially in developing nations. Old lady sexpats have their boy toys abroad that they pay to play with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:40 PM
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There’s plenty. If you’re not into men and don’t look into OF you wouldn’t know though. Old ladies pay for hot dudes on cruises all the time. And they’ll pay for their whole lifestyle. Especially in developing nations. Old lady sexpats have their boy toys abroad that they pay to play with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:40 PM
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Did you read my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:38 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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