LoomingCrimson Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
86	Why should women care about men who value virginity when they don’t have to?	CMV	LoomingCrimson	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/22 01:29 PM

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4	Only poor/average men have a problem with gold diggers I have watched that show and I’ve also watched many people throughout my lifetime be financially drained by individuals who saw a sucker in a better financial position and took advantage. None of them were rich. What I’m talking about has its limits but the majority of people who say that “no person will do x” really have not been around enough people to know. I’m telling you from first hand accounting, I have seen people(both men and women) lie, cheat and steal their way through so they can sta…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/23 09:28 AM
2	Only poor/average men have a problem with gold diggers This is a gross underestimation of humans, not just women, who come from desperate financial circumstances.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/23 09:20 AM
–	The Hot Useless Matrix And in the absence of the tool itself, it doesn’t matter how effective you could theoretically be with it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/23 05:40 PM
3	The Hot Useless Matrix Money is a tool. Tools are useful. You seem to be suggesting that anyone can have that tool. Except lots of people don’t. This distinguishes money havers from the money have-nots. Fairly or unfairly it doesn’t matter. If all else is equal, anyone would choose to have both in a partner. Some people choose money over discrete usefulness because they either want or have to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/23 10:02 AM
15	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree As a larger response to your post I’ll lay out some of my opinions on this topic. Someone being submissive does not mean blind obedience. It may be how some others define submissive behaviour but that is not what it is. Leadership requires qualities not everyone has in equal parts. Much of the world is comprised of people who want to lead and take on those responsibilities and others who want to follow and complement a leader instead of doing it themselves. Following is a fine decision and requi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/23 09:58 AM
8	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree So general subservience means blind stupidity? Not trying to straw-man but that does seem like your insinuation. If someone(the dominant person) is driving a car because the other doesn’t know how(subservient person) do they not push back or warn the driver if they see clear danger on the path they’re both traveling?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/23 09:12 AM
3	Dégénération quality shitpost	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/22 11:24 AM
3	Average PPD woman when you post anything slightly pro male Idk. Perhaps I’m naive but it feels like because those babies obviously look like they could have been fathered by different men, it demeans and lowers her value as an undesirable “promiscuous single mother” type. That feels like the most likely answer to me. (Which is still crap, just a different kind of crap) It doesn’t read like it comes from a racist place, but I can see interpreting it that way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/22 11:14 AM
2	It makes no sense how men can do everything right yet suffer like animals. Female doesn't realize how painful it is. I didn’t realize this guy can study humanity(or in his own words, “women” who are a subset of humanity) and have one size fits all answers for how to form a successful society and ideal relationships. Taking the misogyny and entitlement out of it this man lacks enough social understanding to comprehend that romantic relationships don’t form because you tick a bunch of life boxes. Making money, “studying women” and having a high IQ can still preclude you from procreation, as he’s demonstrating in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/22 10:37 AM
7	Whats with all the buzz around confidence You’re asking why people are attracted to intangible social characteristics, and I don’t have the answer. I’m not sure anyone does. Much like confidence, some people are attracted to smiles. Someone smiling doesn’t provide food or shelter, or fend off attackers either. I’m unsure how this translates to meaning anything other than “people can make selections based on seemingly trivial preferences” - which is true, that’s how it was, and will continue to be.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/22 10:07 PM
11	Age gap relationships are generally shamed by bitter older women You baked in “consensual” with “moral” which have everything to do with one another. This would be like asking “what does honesty have to do with being moral?” What you’re trying to get at is: “Who makes you the person that decides what ages(or gaps) are moral for sexual interaction/conquest.” The social pressure and implication from society more generally is that older men who single out(not happen to date, but exclusively chase) teenagers, are not the most upstanding and/or moral actors. There…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/22 11:36 AM
2	If someone cheats, but knows that they never do it again, should they come clean? Are we speaking in the abstract or referencing a moral question you want answered that you can apply to your own life? This is a good question but requires more context in order to give concrete answers. There is no more moral course of action that fits every situation. Did both people agree beforehand on their moral framework for how to discuss difficult topics/cheating etc? Is the cheater’s partner deeply insecure already? Can we guarantee the person being cheated on would never find out? Can …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/22 12:16 PM
6	Heterosex is inherently transactional I don’t think this individual has considered that women might like having sex with men, because they don’t. It’s an understandable if obvious blind spot in their perspective.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/22 06:54 AM
2	People who knowingly have sex married people, how much backlash do they actually deserve? Yes. I mean someone who voluntarily slept with or intentionally seduced a married person. As you outlined, absent of assault or coercion, only a married person took a vow of monogamy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/22 12:39 AM
5	People who knowingly have sex married people, how much backlash do they actually deserve? It is not an unmarried person’s obligation to not have sex with a married person. It’s exclusively the unfaithful married person’s responsibility. Don’t care if the unmarried person is intentionally seductive etc. The married person has to be party to it happening for it to take place at all. And don’t give me that hot garbage about “helping” someone cheat as if it would change anything if an unmarried person refused to sleep with a married person. Prostitution or a whole lineup of people in the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/22 12:20 AM
1	OFFICIAL How are age-gap relationships "at a different stage" thread Society does not craft social norms and rules for above average/exceptional pairings. Typically we account for the lowest common denominator and try to keep them safe, too. Can an 18 year old and 25+ year old have a happy and healthy relationship, free of the baggage associated with exploitation? Absolutely. But is it the most likely outcome? Most people would say probably not. Edit: I would also qualify this by saying there are larger age gaps that I think are less significant. 25-35 is consequ…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 09:22 AM
10	What’s your opinion about female Jordan Peterson fans? It’s difficult to articulate what Peterson does that’s viewed as problematic without giving long form examples and a lot of people (myself included) don’t really want to go to the effort of doing that. The short version for me is(Please do not ask me to expand on this, if you want to observe for yourself and decide, watch carefully how he frames and walks an audience through topics in long form and form your own opinion) he falls short when he starts talking about broader social/politically char…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/22 11:21 AM
60	q4a for all high n-count people. was it fun? was it worth it? It was fun. If I could go back and change it, I wouldn’t. That being said, the only people missing out are those stopped by the stigma associated with it. People who are interested in waiting until marriage for religious reasons or even just valuing sex as the highest form of intimacy that they share with a select few, are not missing out because they view sexuality through a completely different lens than I do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/22 02:40 PM
2	Can a virgin be good enough at sex? Yeah sorry, I added an edit for clarity. Making up terms needs definition so people can understand what I mean. Haha.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/22 06:42 PM
2	Can a virgin be good enough at sex? Sure. Some people have steady hands, agile tongues, etc. Someone who, without experience, already has favourable control over these(and other) parts of their body that would be valuable during sex, will be at an advantage. I didn’t comment this above but similarly, someone with a naturally high level of intuition and creativity, are more likely to be able to immediately become in tune with their partner. Reading body language and using a vocabulary your partner likes to hear, to get consent or i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/22 06:28 PM
11	Can a virgin be good enough at sex? Chemistry between partners is more important than the mechanical aspect of sex. That being said, mechanics do factor in and everyone has a baseline for ability/dexterity etc. Someone with a low mechanical baseline will take longer to develop their ability. A person who has a high mechanical baseline could perform well almost immediately. It really depends on the aptitude and people involved. Can a virgin instantly be good enough to satisfy their partner? Yes. Will they develop their sexual abili…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/22 06:15 PM
1	Shows like "Love is Blind" confirm that it's men, not women, who won't commit to a LTR unless she's the more attractive one (or they're the same level). This feels like a low effort/troll post. Reality TV is not a good indicator of what life is like for the average person/couple. Let’s even grant you that reality TV isn’t staged or heavily type-cast to give the best possible drama/storyline/outcomes. The premise is these are people who unsuccessful at finding love and have resorted to outsourcing it to other people to set up situations that help do it for them. I guess if we strained really hard, we could say that a lot of PPD people might be ba…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/22 05:05 AM
12	The bluepilled meme that "communication solves everything" is just a lazy catch-all phrase I’ve taken careful note about how you haven’t addressed any of the rebuttals I’ve provided about what you’ve said and have instead chosen to dig in deeper to your own experiences to make your case. Taking away my most generous interpretation of your post- It sounds to me like the first two points you made about blue pillers are you projecting how you function in the world, based on what I’m able to observe. An obviously hypocritical person who is terrible at debating, criticizing people you disl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/22 01:30 PM
3	The bluepilled meme that "communication solves everything" is just a lazy catch-all phrase Yes and your first two reasons state it’s because blue pilled people terrible debaters who use logical fallacies and don’t take the rejection of their ideas well. We can forget asking you to justify your descriptive reasons here and engage with the fact you believe it’s wishful thinking to have equitable disagreements in relationships. At best, I would say you have a point but it applies only to a section of blue pilled people who engage with the world in the way you’re describing. Winning at an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/22 12:56 PM
9	The bluepilled meme that "communication solves everything" is just a lazy catch-all phrase But that’s the underlying criticism of “blue-pilled normies” you’re calling out in your post, or am I missing something? Why make an entire post criticizing a group of people you disagree with for engaging in behaviour you’re also guilty of?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/22 12:08 PM
31	The bluepilled meme that "communication solves everything" is just a lazy catch-all phrase It feels strange to watch you debate others on this topic and use sweeping all encompassing generalizations of people you disagree with. It’s kind of like, bulletproof in its own way. You don’t actually have to adhere to good faith debate practices while nitpicking others at their inability to do so. But meming aside, I think your position is too narrow and misses the spirit of why good faith adult based interactions, while imperfect, are still worth having. It feels kind of like you telling me,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/22 09:22 AM
36	The bluepilled meme that "communication solves everything" is just a lazy catch-all phrase This feels like an unrealistic or false depiction of a position you don’t even hold. Trying to steel man your position to the best of my ability, it seems as if you think equality in relationships is a falsehood. So discussing differences in a way where both parties feel satisfied/heard/understood is not possible. I’m unsure why debate tactics must apply where there are rigid definitions of right and wrong, forgoing all nuance on complicated subjects, or that compromise is not possible. It sound…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/22 08:44 AM
-1	What is your toxic dating trait? I used creative license to illustrate my discontent in allowing others to meaningfully control my behaviour. Your point is well taken though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/22 06:47 PM
10	What is your toxic dating trait? Anyone trying to control my behaviour in a meaningful way is a countdown to me burning the entire relationship to the ground. I feel like that has to count for toxic, right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/22 01:56 PM
–	Girl doesn’t believe in contributing to a household other than cooking cleaning , pitching business ideas and being “supportive” and man pays ALL the bills and expenses with the household and going out . Is this a fair exchange? It’s worth mentioning that her calling you cheap may be out of a misunderstanding, once you negotiate and clear up that misunderstanding, she isn’t allowed to say rude things to you in order to get the reaction she wants. You’re right to set limitations and manage her expectations about your financial capabilities. You aren’t a personal piggy bank and do not need to drive yourself into debt like she already has. I say this next part nicely but her comment about you being cheap would definitely r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/22 11:56 AM
–	Girl doesn’t believe in contributing to a household other than cooking cleaning , pitching business ideas and being “supportive” and man pays ALL the bills and expenses with the household and going out . Is this a fair exchange? As others may have already commented - the financial exchange between partners is largely up to personal comfort of those who are involved. If I’m making significantly more and able, I don’t mind shouldering more. With that being said, her changing perspectives from relationship to relationship is something I’d investigate with her. Sounds to me like she’s trying to take advantage of you because her previous relationship took advantage of and put her in debt. You are not obliged to correct her f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/22 11:30 AM
2	CMV: it’s harder for women to be sexually fulfilled in monogamous relationships than men. I guess where this falls apart to me is your admission of being a bit of a size queen and then generalizing by speaking for all women as if PinV is the driving force behind their desire to be with other/multiple men. Using anecdotal experience here but I’ve had a lot of friends and then romantic partners who have been more driven to desire by my creativity than the sum of my physicality. We can talk about the size/shape of my parts to dispel your doubt but I mean, I’m unconvinced you’ll see anyt…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/22 08:46 PM
3	How many women expect their partners to do unreasonable amounts of housework? I appreciate your reply but I did specifically qualify how I framed the scenario by saying married people investing into one another should be different. There’s a level of commitment, security and expectation baked into marriage that isn’t in simply any live-in relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/22 09:30 PM
1	How many women expect their partners to do unreasonable amounts of housework? Yeah, that’s fair. I’m more thinking of it as an abstract scenario now that the concept has been brought up, rather than needing to use these two specifically as the example. Could change genders and I’d feel the same about granting more leeway to the person financially carrying when it comes to housework.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/22 12:21 PM
4	How many women expect their partners to do unreasonable amounts of housework? So abstractly, I agree with the idea equal worked hours mean the housework gets split evenly. I’m a bit torn here though. Functionally, if one person does the financial heavy lifting, and one is investing in their future, an abstract value, how is it fair to the person financially contributing significantly more to then also do equal housework? Maybe in a marriage or lifelong commitment, sure. But just any old live-in relationship? Let’s say this young couple is together for 5 years. The man pay…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/22 11:25 AM
2	Cheating by men can be done in a way to have zero PRACTICAL sacrifices with the relationship So then you agree with the rest of what I said, cool.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/22 06:24 PM
1	Would You Stay Friends With Someone That is a Cheater? Yeah, I just wasn’t sure if this was fully hypothetical or if it was something you were experiencing personally. You posed it hypothetically but a lot of people do that even in scenarios personally affecting them. Either way, the essence of how I’ll respond to someone cheating or doing other morally ambiguous acts is: Calculating how much it affects me and weigh that against what I’m willing to risk/change in my relationships if I disagree with someone I care about on moral grounds.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/22 01:54 PM
0	Would You Stay Friends With Someone That is a Cheater? So are you posing this scenario as a hypothetical then?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/22 01:50 PM
-1	Would You Stay Friends With Someone That is a Cheater? Based on how you’ve described the situation, your partner sounds like they’re delivering an ultimatum. Perhaps I’m misreading that, but if my partner, or any significant person in my life did that to me, I’d throw them directly out of my life and laugh while doing it. Now addressing whether or not to be friends with a cheater. This depends. Am I friends with both? Based on the situation you’ve described, you’re friends with the cheater, not the one being cheated on. If I think my friend is reall…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/22 01:40 PM
12	Virgins women aren't anywhere near as rare as people on here think - those who say otherwise always misrepresent the statistics. I’ve heard of (and have personally known) many women lying about being virgins. And men, too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/22 11:15 AM
2	Cheating by men can be done in a way to have zero PRACTICAL sacrifices with the relationship Okay so I don’t agree with how you characterize men as being rational etc and then go on to explain a man suffering from a physical compulsion so severe that he can’t control himself or stay true to the terms of his relationship. I’m unsure how that’s grounded in “logic”. But that’s just me nitpicking a little. Let’s address the meat of the post. If we want to be clear about men who are compulsive cheaters and how they can successfully do so without ruining their relationship with their wife? Li…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/22 06:10 PM
1	You’re not good enough to be average I’m basing my reply to you, in part, going by your assertion of who I am. Have you met me to ascertain my actual chronological age? No, you have not. Do we know I am the precise age you’re assuming I am? No, we don’t know these things. You assumed it because you read something in my profile, and never questioned what you saw. For all you know, I’m a completely different age and demographic than my profile states. I am, by the way, not from Gen X, which blows your entire point out of the water. S…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/22 06:34 PM
1	You’re not good enough to be average Apparently you can’t or are just too lazy to read anything aside from my tagline to attack me on, so let’s educate and explain it to you, young grasshopper. I actually sympathize with the large amount of men who are experiencing loneliness at higher rates than we’ve seen in recent history. I can get on board with it being much more challenging to navigate the world when it’s changed socially so drastically within a lifetime. These types of issues require lots of conversation and education if we …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/22 06:23 PM
2	You’re not good enough to be average These are all my best guesses as well. I think it’s difficult for most people to escape depression when it’s severe enough, so that’s a portion of it. Additionally, society is organized much differently now than it was 50-100 years ago. We’ve lost some of our historical neutral in person gathering places. I imagine this has had a significant difference in social development for some men, and also less opportunity to organically create attraction with prospective partners.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/22 05:54 PM
4	You’re not good enough to be average I’m not entirely sure we disagree about the importance of someone taking accountability for their actions. You asked a question and I was describing the sequence of events that leads people down this kind of path, not excusing or justifying them. I actually insinuated in what I said that if someone doesn’t take responsibility for setting themselves up for failure, that’s often at least partially their fault.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/22 04:47 PM
4	You’re not good enough to be average Like anything- It primarily becomes a problem when results don’t meet expectations by a large margin, and the disappointed party turns resentful. In turn this lowers their prospective value even further, leading to more disappointment. The cycle continues until we have a lot of otherwise average men wishing they could achieve higher than their typical station in life. Upset at anyone who might ask them to self reflect and develop different facets of themselves or change their evaluation, as it’s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/22 03:40 PM
22	You’re not good enough to be average A lot of people also seem to forget the majority of people in life will be average, and that’s okay. People just have to manage their expectations if they’re an average person, having an average life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/22 01:51 PM
2	Older men (30+) who specifically want young, inexperienced women (18-23) under the pretense of them having "less baggage", actually just want women with the specific TYPE of baggage (daddy issues / parental trauma) that would make them easier targets for predatory men in the first place. Yes, I think what you said is very well put. This kind of thinking can go a long way toward figuring out how to educate and provide people(men) with information/solutions to these issues, so they happen less frequently and are at least taken into consideration.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/22 10:58 AM
2	Is it true that men have it harder than women because what makes a man attractive can't be faked or is extremely difficult to achieve? 30-50 year old men with a modest amount of financial success and/or a personality beyond that of a tree stump, are by definition average, and what the bulk of the conversation is about. It is not beyond the capabilities of most men to reach this position in life. Average men should be accepting of average women, and if not, they can be disappointed and upset about it and whine about the lack of success they find, forever.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/22 05:09 PM
1	Is it true that men have it harder than women because what makes a man attractive can't be faked or is extremely difficult to achieve? I appreciate your comment and can understand your position. I think we will fundamentally disagree though because I value agency and possibility of affecting outcomes over anything else. You’re correct that women have forgiveness in specific areas when it comes to being attractive to men but it’s primarily centred around appearance. That is very finite and can be easily aged out of. Fat women are more accepted than ever but that is also not universal. Old(er) men who have money or status or char…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/22 04:51 PM
13	Would you rather get the amount of attention women get, or amount of attention the average men get? I don’t know about you but as a straight man I do not enjoy being aggressively hit on by gay men. I don’t enjoy being followed, ogled and persisted upon that I relent and give them my attention, or “just enjoy it.” This is often times the kind of attention women refer to when they insist they’d rather be left alone. It’s the men who can’t take a hint, who will be creepy and either oblivious or deliberate about it. I can tell you from personal experience it’s alarming to have an imposingly large …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/22 04:10 PM
2	Older men (30+) who specifically want young, inexperienced women (18-23) under the pretense of them having "less baggage", actually just want women with the specific TYPE of baggage (daddy issues / parental trauma) that would make them easier targets for predatory men in the first place. Yeah I bring up intent not to delegitimize harm to women but to imagine how people might address these mindsets in men when seeking solutions to their behaviour.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/22 03:23 PM
15	Is it true that men have it harder than women because what makes a man attractive can't be faked or is extremely difficult to achieve? Okay. After that remark I no longer believe you and will no longer be replying. Have a goodnight.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/22 05:54 AM
18	Is it true that men have it harder than women because what makes a man attractive can't be faked or is extremely difficult to achieve? So you’re telling me that a woman being feminine and nurturing will exclusively make her sexually appealing and dateable to a moderately successful man? Because if not, you’re then relying on her appearance and everything else you said about femininity and being nurturing becomes meaningless.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/22 05:45 AM
27	Is it true that men have it harder than women because what makes a man attractive can't be faked or is extremely difficult to achieve? If we go by averages and include all of the exhaustive criteria you set out that men can access- Men can become moderately confident, talented, and successful. Don’t have to be famous or a basketball player etc. Men can, through effort, access increases in status and desirability to pull an average to below average looking woman, easily. These are your criteria. Women on the other hand, can only be useful in your mind for their attractiveness. That’s a much narrower window for them to hit, and o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/22 05:19 AM
21	Is it true that men have it harder than women because what makes a man attractive can't be faked or is extremely difficult to achieve? Men being ugly can be overcome by the other criteria you set out. Plenty of famous/talented/financially successful etc men can get by without having good looks. By your description, men don’t care about women possessing any of those things, so it isn’t even.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/22 05:06 AM
46	Is it true that men have it harder than women because what makes a man attractive can't be faked or is extremely difficult to achieve? Wouldn’t genetically challenged(aka ugly) women have an equally hard or even worse time dating using your criteria? A lot of what you described may be difficult to achieve for men but you can’t really change being born ugly as a woman. You can try to salvage it but even plastic surgery can only go so far. Where as with men, they can get wealth, status, confidence, hone a skill and actually have agency. This means by your metrics men stand a better chance at being in control of their romantic sta…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/22 04:34 AM
1	Older men (30+) who specifically want young, inexperienced women (18-23) under the pretense of them having "less baggage", actually just want women with the specific TYPE of baggage (daddy issues / parental trauma) that would make them easier targets for predatory men in the first place. Completely unrelated to your post here but I can’t lie - I choked on my drink when I read your username. Hahaha.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/22 03:36 AM
2	Older men (30+) who specifically want young, inexperienced women (18-23) under the pretense of them having "less baggage", actually just want women with the specific TYPE of baggage (daddy issues / parental trauma) that would make them easier targets for predatory men in the first place. I said that earlier in the post you’re quoting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/22 08:05 PM
2	Older men (30+) who specifically want young, inexperienced women (18-23) under the pretense of them having "less baggage", actually just want women with the specific TYPE of baggage (daddy issues / parental trauma) that would make them easier targets for predatory men in the first place. I think when you provide clarifying language and follow up to what you initially said it actually can make your point stronger. Deciding to shrug your shoulders or give up if someone asks you to elaborate using different terms will cede a lot of ground to people who seek to undermine your position. I’ve said a couple of times I understand the general place of where you’re coming from. Now that you’ve added you aren’t exclusively into dramatically younger women, it illustrates further that you’re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/22 02:06 PM
6	Older men (30+) who specifically want young, inexperienced women (18-23) under the pretense of them having "less baggage", actually just want women with the specific TYPE of baggage (daddy issues / parental trauma) that would make them easier targets for predatory men in the first place. As I said in my initial reply, I think I understand the spirit of what you’re getting at. Not wanting to be with someone who has a lot of unprocessed emotional trauma/scarring makes sense. It’s when you use terms like “innocence” and label all women in a particular way, it ends up looking bad optically. I can grant you that by the numbers, younger women are less likely to have the kinds of unresolved issues you’re seeking to avoid. It’s certainly one way to get around the situation you’re descri…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/22 01:18 PM
13	Older men (30+) who specifically want young, inexperienced women (18-23) under the pretense of them having "less baggage", actually just want women with the specific TYPE of baggage (daddy issues / parental trauma) that would make them easier targets for predatory men in the first place. I think I understand your premise but when you explain yourself the way you just did it lends to this thought of “I can’t stand up to the scrutiny of an experienced woman, I require someone naive or it’s too difficult/not worth it.” Now, maybe you meant to say it this way, maybe not. I don’t know that it’s your best look, personally.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/22 12:56 PM
5	Older men (30+) who specifically want young, inexperienced women (18-23) under the pretense of them having "less baggage", actually just want women with the specific TYPE of baggage (daddy issues / parental trauma) that would make them easier targets for predatory men in the first place. I think you bring up a good point but the struggle here(for me) is disentangling the intentionality of these types of men. I imagine a good portion of who you’re talking about are unable to identify the risk/benefits of relationships with age gaps and differences in power. Intuitively they may seek control because it’s easier but couldn’t deconstruct the why, and may not even care to learn because they’re convinced because this is easier for them, it must mean it’s better for all parties. I thin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/22 12:47 PM
2	Why should women care about men who value virginity when they don’t have to? Thank you very much for your comment. This is kind of what I was getting at. Sexual history shouldn’t need to matter on either end in order to have a successful and happy relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/22 03:28 PM
1	Why do women care so much if men care about their age or previous sexual behavior? I need to start copy pastas for questions like this. It isn’t inherently bad to have dating preferences for practical reasons. However it is bad to use youth/inexperience as a crutch in an attempt to leverage that inexperience and youth of women, to exploit them. 18-25 year old never been kissed virgin woman may be less acquainted with the ins and outs of healthy behaviour in a relationship. An abusive partner may be able to fly under the radar for longer and damage her for future relationships.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/22 11:45 AM
4	There's nothing wrong with valuing something in a partner that you do not possess. Sure. A socially inept(or lovestruck) 40 year old with a lot of money and power in other areas of life, can in fact be manipulated and taken advantage of by a young pretty girl. You make a valid point. I would also argue that being pretty wields slightly less power(on average) as having money/power/life experience would. But we may have slightly different opinions here, and that’s okay.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/10/22 11:29 AM
2	There's nothing wrong with valuing something in a partner that you do not possess. I agree with you but am unsure how it challenges anything I’ve said. Pretty can balance out powerful in a relationship and still leave room for the pretty person to get taken advantage of. We can call those traits equitable in a relationship but based on many real world factors, they may not be equal in other areas of society.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/10/22 11:22 AM
1	There's nothing wrong with valuing something in a partner that you do not possess. I believe you may have overlooked the part where I said older men with more power or status aren’t inherently exploitative. It’s about making sure people are aware there is a potential for some of those types of men to be exploitative. The idea is to make individuals aware of the risks and responsibilities and in extreme cases like workplaces or scholastic settings putting limits on behaviour so it can’t become exploitative.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/10/22 11:17 AM
19	There's nothing wrong with valuing something in a partner that you do not possess. I think what most people mean to bring up when talking about power dynamics isn’t that power imbalance is inherently evil. It’s to make everyone aware that power imbalances in relationships leave room for exploitation. A charismatic 40-something man with a house, car, and disposable income, can be a lot of fun for a 20 year old woman who is barely affording her college dorm and eating ramen for most meals. He could also turn out to be a nightmare and cause a lot of harm, too. And sure, a man is …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/22 10:29 PM
2	Vetting Mega-Thread Must have traits Intelligence is fine but incredibly overrated. Give me a tolerant and kind person first and foremost. Emotionally and socially clever wins over scholastic ability. Productive communicator. Self reflective and also able to stand their ground when necessary. Physical chemistry is important. They can be pretty all they want but an absence of romantic spark is a dealbreaker for me long term. Absolute dealbreakers Trouble with the law. Don’t really want to invite that into my life if…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/22 01:17 AM
3	Modern society is wrong. Women do not love or have real sexualities, but use sex and love as a weapon and a resource. You must be joking. This entire post and your replies are knowingly disingenuous and made for the sake of humour, right? There’s no way you’re actually being serious about any of this. In the event that you are serious: The vast majority of replies are absolutely correct. You’re reaching incredibly hard here to prove a lack of sexual success or to explain away being deeply hurt by women. Information sloppily collected and riddled with inaccuracies hurts any legitimate argument you would try and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/10/22 01:41 AM