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Then he is wrong. He should learn to be content with himself. Also I can't see original post. Sorry.
/r/ExRedPill09/06/22 10:51 AM
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That's bad advice in general. No one should feel they settled or were settled for. People should rather learn to be content with themselves and living on their own if they didn't had their preferences met.
/r/ExRedPill09/06/22 10:43 AM
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I am not implying it's not a good advice. It's a very good advice to lead a healthy and happy life but what I am saying is once should be cautious with expectations. It could lead to hard downfall cause while it's a good advice on life but may not result in success with women. That's all.
/r/ExRedPill09/06/22 10:38 AM
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And... They should work on having an attractive personality and character, because being a bitter, whiny, entitled asshole, is not attractive in the least. Believe it or not, many women don't place all of their attraction on looks. Not putting all attraction on looks doesn't mean not giving it any importance at all. I doubt most people regardless of gender will date someone whose personality they like and are attracted to emotionally but lacks physical attraction. Can you date someone like that?
/r/ExRedPill09/06/22 10:35 AM
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How? Did you had success with women? I mean from personal experience since I stopped giving dating/hookups any thought and focus on just enjoying life and pursuing my interest it has been as if I have become invisible to women (not that I have any complains just sharing my experience). It's like "I don't care about them, they don't care about me. Mutual indifference". So I would say doing just about anything won't always result in success and also not many are attractive. Still people should foc…
/r/ExRedPill09/06/22 10:32 AM
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But just doing anything else won't result in success. Also many can do nothing wrong but still be unsuccessful. Not everyone's attractive and that's ok.
/r/ExRedPill09/06/22 10:27 AM
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It's a very good advice to become more calm and content with life but the thing is you said he should do something about his lack of success and I don't get how these two advice will help with that?
/r/ExRedPill09/06/22 10:19 AM
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I'm not virgin shaming you, but you could probably do with some shame about the state of yourself and your outlook. . Leaving shaming aside. What do you propose he should do?
/r/ExRedPill09/06/22 10:12 AM
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Wait I thought friendzone means that guy is in friend category for the girl. How's having balls to ask out up front saves the guy from friendzone? Can you explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 03:00 AM
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I mean I myself have loads of trouble dating cause I am not physically attractive and I have done as much as I can (though I don't have financial problem) but the idea of dating someone I am not attracted to is pretty repulsive so I guess everyone operates like me. If I could I would try to become more attractive but I can't so I just refrain altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 06:37 AM
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Are you implying that they should start dating down?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 09:54 AM
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Yup, I was only pointing out to your very first comment in this trail where you questioned the validity of the claim that higher number of men are sexless than women and dare I say most women are sexless by choice cause their biology makes them more picky (nothing wrong with that) and unlike men way less likely to lower their standards for casual sex even with long period of celibacy, with relationship it's different cause they do re-evaluate their checklist as older they go to start a family bu…
/r/seduction08/01/22 01:06 PM
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And I think you can do better than you have suggested--not all 'unattractive' girls. I don't know man, I am slightly below average height (5'8) and average at best in terms of looks (5-6/10) but where I think I really knock it out of the park is in my physique (toned, BF% 12-13 and muscular) and maybe clothes? (They all are well fitted but not flashy so I don't know) and most play I get is with average at best women and that too only for relationship , I have never gone back home with average wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:51 AM
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You never seen beefy bouncer dude with bald head and goatee and an imposing but not beautiful face scoring babes? Not to sound rude to the women but I have mostly seen Thicc and slightly unattractive women (as in too much fillers , botox etc.) with these guys. Other beefy and bouncer type looking dudes with more conventionally attractive women have something going on for them like classically handsome features like sharp jaws , high cheekbones, squarer face and hunter eyes but accompanied with s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:25 AM
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Since you like full lips, does that mean you're more likely to be attracted to men with Afro features like Black men, Dominican , Pacific Islanders etc.?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:16 AM
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I don't know man, responses in this sub and my anecdotal experiences are making me doubt what you are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:14 AM
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In one of the comments you mentioned that you're very successful with women. How many of the negative/positive traits due you have and how much they matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:12 AM
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I was talking about lifts and elevator shoes. Oh, but sorry I am not about that. And it could be physicality, but if you have great hygiene, a good physique, and a good haircut then you're definitely above average which makes me think that's not it. Above average? You mean statistically above average? then yeah I guess cause most are overweight if not obese and with poor hygiene but that doesn't mean one is above average as in what most people mean when they say average, which is more like neith…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 03:47 AM
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Nope, in fact it's sober older women who have complimented me for my physical appearance but you can feel the lack of genuineness cause they were my mom's acquaintance and after puberty when they saw me after long time they were like, "aww look at you, you're all grown and handsome now". Only compliments I get are those related to my achievements and success or from drunk fatty at bar maybe exasperated from her lack of options that day and is going all out but on everyone not just me. Most girls…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 03:31 AM
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When a girl wears makeup is that deception? What about when they wear heels, same shit. If you don't want to take the advantages offered to you because of some stupid made up code of honor, then you probably don't want it that bad. I didn't get this one, what advantage are you talking about? Fitness? Grooming? Being more direct and forward with approach? Showing them good time? Lowering Standards? I do all these things except lower my standards. It sounds like you have a nice group of friends, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:55 AM
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if you're good looking/facial attractive, you know it. People will tell you all the time. Does this only work with guy who're Tall and Handsome? Personally I am very toned (BF% 12-13) and muscular but i have slightly below average height (5'8) and average at best face (5-6/10) and I have never been complimented despite me keeping my haircut and clothes on point (not very flashy but more like plain but well fitted clothes). Another question, Would you say that any girl as long as she takes care o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 06:52 PM
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I'm 5'8 , just slightly below average height so neither I think I should need elevator shoes nor I want to cause that's deception. I don't know what you mean by masculine way? like Good posture? Yes, Confident aura? I mean I don't feel awkward or hesitant while entering a place or meeting with group of strangers so that's about all I can say about myself but whether people feel I am confident or not? that I can't particularly know about. Leader of the group? I don't think that's a necessity caus…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:21 AM
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Roll for a FWB deal then, casual and easier than endless chase You didn't read my reply properly did you?. That's the whole problem , when I make my move then they decline and now if I make a contact with them as you suggested then they are not anymore likely to be on board with FWB as they were before , cause mood was already set at the time when we were having fun so if they weren't attracted then , then why would they be now? i dont know if it will work. As opposed to doing something you know…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:35 PM
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https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-xiaomi-rvo2&biw=393&bih=672&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=long+sleeves+t+shirt+for+men&oq=long+sleeves+t+shirt+for+men&aqs=mobile-gws-lite..#imgrc=Y84rJUU467vnaM This is my everyday very casual get up. https://www.google.com/search?q=button+down+with+khakis&client=ms-android-xiaomi-rvo2&prmd=isnxv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP1Mq9_Zr1AhWO4jgGHcP3BpsQ_AUoAXoECAIQAQ&biw=393&bih=720&dpr=2.75#imgrc=SmFp8dHXGBLrVM This is more of a like you know when it's s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 04:26 PM
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Put the effort into fitness, fashion I don't know about fashion but I'm definitely a healthy fit person as in toned (bf% 12-13) and muscular and as for fashion I'm not very flashy with it but I do wear well fitted clothes and do proper grooming of hair with good haircut ( that's what my barber said looks good on me so I'm not sure) but I feel I get dragged down by slightly belo average height (5'8) and average at best Looks (5-6/10). be social I do socialize a lot (at least as much my schedule a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 03:05 PM
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I didn't asked with OP as a subject, I asked with more general case in my mind cause OP just have self esteem issues or neuroticism, probably both. If you're on the extreme end of the bell curve its hard, but odds are you're not, Does it really takes to be on extreme end to not have had success? I have heard most average guys have less than their ideal dating/hookup life , not to say that it's all Sahara desert for them but definitely will go for more if given choice. So basically I was asking m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 01:16 PM
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Did it paid off for you? Are you Tall or Handsome or Both? TBH I feel lost cause it feels now like it's waste of time to maintain such low BF% as I have right now when most attractive women wants me to jump through hoops to get dates let alone hookups or them approaching me , I rather enjoy eating different things here and there and just focus on powerlifting alone then maintaining ripped physique.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:59 AM
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What if guy is not very attractive but socializes a lot among his peers and mingles with strangers in his age group at different places made for hanging out or let loose like parties, raves , bars etc. But still is unsuccessful or not enough successful to his liking? What should be his approach to life moving forward?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:35 AM
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To be attractive you need to look good (workout + style), and be cool (social status + social skills). Will Facial Attractiveness and Height matter according to you to be attractive? I don't know about how to measure my social status but I have toned and muscular physique and I dress with well fitted clothes with good haircut and I also have good social skills considering women keep flocking to me to have some fun but they never see me as Hookup material even though I am aggressive and make my m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:02 AM
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Does things like good Looks and Height will matter on how far the glow up will be for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 05:57 AM
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Found anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 05:46 AM
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Ok thanx, can you like notify me? When you will make the post in like next week? month? or whatever time period it will take?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 04:23 AM
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Are you saying Looks & Height doesn't matter or something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 06:18 PM
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I mean , I have few friends who are like male model attractive and when you're that much physically attractive all you have to do is just be good at one other thing (not the best but good enough or at least appear good enough) preferably Guitar or Piano (especially something good with your hand, I don't know why few women commented on how they just melt when watching this other guys hands doing wood work) and you'll get laid in non sexual scenario as well. For Bars/Clubs/Raves/Festive just look …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:43 PM
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Well maybe more men are giving up cause it's getting hard to get a dates? Also 12% is huge considering America have population over 100 millions in that age bracket and even half are men then that's pretty staggering amount of men, basically one third of the men are celibate so one in every three guy out there reported celibacy and also generally men are more likely to lie in this regard so the reported study could very well be understating the true figure. It's not the same but there was also a…
/r/seduction03/01/22 10:32 AM
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Nope the data was taken from 2018-19 . It was a comparative study where they compared the data from year 2008-09 and female celibacy showed an increase of I guess 3-4% while increase in male celibacy showed staggering 12%.
/r/seduction03/01/22 10:10 AM
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But this ain't average, it's about percentage of men between 18-30 age where haven't had sex in past year and that comes around 30% of men so that means more women are having sex with select few men. Do you realize that this is mathematically impossible for men to have less sex than women, right? Unless 2/3 of sex women have is lesbian sex, which is not. Here 2/3rd ain't having sex among themselves but those select few men are getting more opportunities with these women. Why are you brining in a…
/r/seduction03/01/22 09:59 AM
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I'm of slightly below average height (5'8) which isn't negative per say and I am 5-6/10 at best face wise, but I do have toned and slightly muscular body which I'll rate 8/10 but why I am having problems it's cause I want hookups and if relationship opportunities ever comes along then she gotta be attractive not just average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:02 AM
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What's your ethnicity? And What's your preferred ethnicity? Also Why such desires? And What other traits will you want your kids to have , based on genders of course? (You're the first guy I have heard with designer baby desires, so I am curios now)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:31 AM
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Attractive or mostly average?
/r/seduction03/01/22 08:23 AM
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Oh so you were saying that lack of looks might make rejections far more likely but keep persisting , success will ensue?
/r/seduction03/01/22 08:19 AM
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Yeah but you said all one need is that one girl to like you implying just one in a lifetime while most guy here on sub will themselves prefer quality over quantity but still they'll like to have more than one options in a lifetime.
/r/seduction03/01/22 08:14 AM
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I think they are juxtaposing the two picture to say that immutable traits like Facial Attractiveness & Height plays a significant role when it comes to attractiveness, it's not just about physique and grooming which are largely under one's control.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:50 AM
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Can you post before and after pic?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:43 AM
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Can you PM me the Instagram? if you feel it's safe to do so of course
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:38 AM
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I think they're talking about quality of the girls. If you mean any average girl who remotely takes care of themselves ? Then sure yeah he'll have a decent time but if his standards are high and want someone pretty then I am not quite sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:32 AM
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I think it's more about whether Facial attractiveness matter or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:29 AM
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So if there is a guy with high self esteem than he'll get any girl he want regardless of his Looks & Height?
/r/seduction03/01/22 06:58 AM
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But isn't this sub more about getting laid a lot more than getting one girl to find you attractive and be done with it for rest of your life?
/r/seduction03/01/22 06:50 AM
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Or maybe most are having with same guy?
/r/seduction03/01/22 06:48 AM
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So you're saying any guy regardless of Looks & Height can get any girl?
/r/seduction03/01/22 06:46 AM
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LOL being vague af. So you don't have any advices. Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:28 AM
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What more work can I put now?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:26 AM
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Tbh, not being rude that pic is blurry, hard to get feel of what I am seeing, 😅, don't you have any other pics? sperate pics will work as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:24 AM
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Can you PM that guy? I don't know it's hard to believe when women never approach you and you do all the approaching with not much eagerness from them and than if she is impressed enough and you do get the girl (forget hook up) and they're asked what drawned them to me, they say "Oh his personality grew over me" feels kinda patronizing to me (😂).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:17 AM
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Oh it's you? You can PM me if you feel I'm not unsafe of course. Can you show girls you're getting with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:11 AM
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Can you show me pics?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:08 AM
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But isn't somewhat true? Do you know guys like him drowning with girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:06 AM
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I know that's why I believe advice of improving the fitness shouldn't come with tagline that women will come with it, it's better to focus on fitness for your health's sake Or else one could easily lose motivation if results are not satisfactory, I almost lost the motivation after 7 years of continuous effort had it not been for my friend to drag me to gym one day and me realising benefits worth going in for. I don't know if he's getting any women he wants but I'm in similar scenario although no…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:03 AM
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Will you be attracted to any guy with masculine energy (as you say) regardless of his Height, Looks & Physique?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:52 AM
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But how much will it be worth it? I mean yeah I could see him get into relationship with average girl who takes care of herself as in grooming and fitness but if his standards are high then I am not quite sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:41 AM
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Is Face make or break for you? With height is it something like being tall is attractive but being short is not necessarily unattractive? What about 5'8 guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:58 AM
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But they aren't so that means it's irrelevant if they aren't following the logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:53 AM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:51 AM
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Do you have pics of yourself or women you get dates with?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:42 AM
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Do you have before and after pics? I don't it definitely didn't improved much for me. What's your stats like, like are you handsome or tall?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:37 AM
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I have seen few guys slaying. My question is can anyone achieve it if one isn't pre disposed to Looks (as in facial attractiveness) & Height from improving physique?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:36 AM
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I don't know man, I have literally never seen this you’ll see most HVM with gorgeous women, but gorgeous women with less aesthetic men. Unless it's Donald Trump like scenario and everyone knows what their dynamic actually is and no one will want that kind of woman for themselves. Most well renowned Models of the world are with equally attractive men, just look at Victoria Secret Angel line up from thus decade and none of their partners are below average in terms of looks and Only exception to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:30 AM
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I mean I am physically healthy but I could easily turn up 31 year old virgin and as far as mental health is concerned I don't understand what you're talking about , mentally unhealthy as in depressed due to lack of sex and relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:48 AM
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LOL, you can be rude but weirdly funny even if I might not agree. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:44 AM
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I mean the actions I took like getting toned (BF 12% right now) and Muscular and properly groomed as in wearing well fitted clothes and proper haircut (I don't know if it's proper or not cause I asked the barber for something well suited on me) didn't resulted in anything worth while for me and I almost gave up on the Gym part for few moths after continuous 7 years of it had it not for my friend one day dragging me there and me releasing other superior benefits of it. So for me BlackPill (as peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:42 AM
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Have improvement in physique worked for you? Are you more Red, Blue or Black leaning? I'm kinda more BlackPill leaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:19 AM
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I don't know about awkwardness but then again there's a sort of polarity among my friends group. It's either too attractive or below to average at best kinda people in my group. So asking those tall and clearly handsome as hell guys is worthless cause for them it's all about not screwing up as he get approached , side eyed or smiled at very often and then there are those average at best (like 5-6/10) and slightly slightly below average height (5'8) , by the way I have similar stats, with some ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:34 AM
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Yeah I don't know seems to be working for everyone but me on the advice forums. (😅). It always end up with me putting tons of effort to get their attention let alone hookup/date and if I don't well done it's my hand for rest of my life cause they ain't giving any signals let alone approach or at the very least initiate the talk or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:05 AM
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Does it really work?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:37 PM
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LOL, clearly you have never met me. And since there's no way to get them then maybe I'll remain celibate for most of my life and i feel I can't do anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:31 PM
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How much would you say it's worth it? And does it depends on your height and looks when it comes to how much one will get out of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:28 PM
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70% men are fat and ungroomed doesn't mean rest will be considered attractive. Being healthy, forget toned & muscular and properly groomed is basic level self care thus not doing it makes one unattractive but doing it doesn't make one attractive it's just doing bare minimum similar to not being nice is unattractive but being nice doesn't gives someone attractiveness point just because world as a majority is filled with assholes. It always boggles my mind when someone say it's easier to become ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:53 PM
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I was only replying that sometimes immutable traits do affect how much the said person will get out of their self improvement but that also depends on said person's standards. So Looks and Height definitely can make or break the self improvement worth it depending upong whether the women you're getting at the end of self improvement are your type or not. 2nd guy on the pic can easily have good experience with average to below average women with great personality and great physique but I doubt if…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 03:29 AM
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Well they're partially right though cause at the end it all comes down to one standards and what they expect to get out of it (or maybe what they're told they'll get out of it?) . This comes to my mind when I look at people of either "Pill" talk about immutable traits and their relevance. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/cu3kdb/q4men_which_of_these_guys_is_chad_and_why/ It clearly had many women say how the guy on right side is just to much and infact some were pretty infuriati…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 03:02 AM
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Gym is both Looks and "Frame & Personality" as you say, what I have seen is those who can have always chosen someone good looking be it men or women and those for whom options are scarce or good options are scarce are the ones reducing their looks standards if the person meet the personality criteria overall cause let's be serious it's already rare enough to have a great personality with no hangups of sort that little less compatibility and average looks will suffice for those with lack of good …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:48 AM
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But isn't Henry Cavil good looking on top of that? Do you think had it been any other guy with similar build but neither tall nor handsome would had gotten similar reception?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:41 AM
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Again LOL, Do you go to gym? A mixed sex gym? Most women there at least expect a guy to be healthy looking and that's for average looking but with great physique women over there and now if you add prettiness to those women, then well you need to bring looks and height to the table as well and I haven't even included women with great personality till now. Only women with very pretty face and very banging physique I have seen with someone as you say ogremaxing are women akin to those on OnlyFans …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:37 AM
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Have you seen that study? First of all that study had the faces of the men blocked so participants had to rate based on the criteria presented it isn't as if you were given the pictures of three girl with their faces blocked, won't you then chose the girl with fittest bod regardless even if that fittest one ain't that pretty. And that study also stated that Height was also something that's attractive to women. So overall women didn't had the choices where faces were visible and even than showed …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:23 AM
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LOL at that. Half of the girls from my gym won't even look toward Tony Soprano look alike and other half will politely decline, no matter how macho that guy acts. There's threshold to everything, if you had stated that only being fit matters then I can see that working with your fit but average looking girl but to deny being physically attractive doesn't matter what so ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:10 AM
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So you're trying to say Looks & Height doesn't matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:04 AM
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Maybe that could be the reason. But overall I still believe it's definitely not so drastic of a change that now one is drowning with women as most advices implies cause it depends upon what you're working with. A handsome or a tall guy doing this will have far better results than an average guy in both department doing it, it will improve the odds no mater what but still things doesn't get all fairytale if one is starting from nothing. (And of course below avg in both had worse than us)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:35 AM
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But at least you got these sort of experiences when you put yourself out there. For some of us we never have had these experiences despite putting ourselves out there as well having our shit under our control. (You know like fitness and grooming). So I think mileage varies person to person on how far they could go after having had their shit under their control.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:15 AM
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Hmm, I don't know. I never been at receiving end of what you describe and I have never not been either fat or skinny. I've always been healthy and had filled frame (mind you not muscular though) since childhood due to sports and then at 16 I started gym as I started being more academically and artistically inclined rather than being sporty and had become more muscular and toned rather than just athletic and toned but till now at 23 I have never in my life had a girl make a first move as in initi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:00 AM
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it's maybe actually worse than your incel imagination. Not only do us handsome guys get the girls. We team up and try to monopolize as many girls as possible. C'mon man you don't have to be rude to say your point. Turn off the red pill and just live a normal goddamn life I do live my life as satisfactory as I can. It's just that I have given up on hookups/dating front after not much attention from girls and it feels more beneficial to me by keeping less expectations, it kinda frees the mind and …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:45 AM
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Do you have before and after pics? I don't know , does it improve attractiveness? Of course every effort put in improves it, like grooming and all but it doesn't changes a person's fortune drastically. Most people for whom I've seen this work crazy are those who were either tall , thus now have that big macho guy kinda look if not so handsome face or were handsome and were covered up with fat all over their face and body or just needed to fill out their frame to look well proportioned. So basica…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 05:59 AM
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Are you saying Looks & Height doesn't matter? I don't get what you're saying. Most non chad guys that I have know have lives that plays something like where they have 3-4 relationship total ( "total" ) and 3-4 hookups at best ( "at best" ) and even these are far & few between with longer period of singleness. These relationships can be very short so 3/4 number doesn't make very difference and so does 3-4 hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 05:45 AM
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How much is lifting helpful generally speaking? I found it quite useless in dating front personally while good for other improvements like health & discipline.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 05:29 AM
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Well it depends on their standards as for me I'm slightly below average height (5'8) and average at best (at best) looks (5/10) but I work out regularly and thus I'm quite toned (BF% 12-13) but since I started to work out it was as if my standards kept rising as well. Basically I wasn't getting any attractive options and now I'm not getting attractive option as well as I refuse to settle as well
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:54 PM
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Can you tell me which country it was? Can't they be virgin simply because they aren't attractive to get sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:43 PM
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What’s funnier is that these dudes genuinely believe that they’re average. What do you mean by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:36 PM
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I know it's late but do you find all men who're in shape attractive? as long as personality is something that's attractive as well. Like good looks and height have nothing to do with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:12 PM
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It was a joke on how you described even the ugliest of them get to slay. Well did they get any quality play or just those girls approaching the uglier ones similar to them? You know not so fortunate with the face. I don't know at this point I'll go that route if I had to cause I 'm not getting with where I'm at so at least one will not die a virgin (😅) and it doesn't seem anything else will help.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 03:36 AM
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Look around you, the average man is hard to admire, most out of shape. Doesn't mean those who are in shape and have nice physique are being considered attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 02:29 AM
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I should've gone down the path of Medicine (😂) . I don't seems to be doing good now or feels like it will be any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 02:27 AM
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Does it applies to the Doctors who are not so Handsome as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 01:52 PM
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Factors as in? So say there's a guy whose not attractive at all but is fun to be around (you know as in Center of the Attention kinda way) and is having a blast and also looks approachable & inviting (as you put it) and yeah also in the large enough crowd with everyone there to enjoy themselves , so you're saying that guy gonna get approached or given signals by attractive women? or any woman? Cause I have a friend whose fat enough to be called overweight and is actually the one carrying all the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 03:30 AM
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If you're loudly having a blast with your boys near cute women vs being a super hot lone wolf pouting at the bar, the boys at the bar get the approach 8 times out of 10 vs SuperChad. That have never happened in my experience where me & my group of friend went out and just having our fun like beach volleyball or be it raves/parties and I am getting approached , not that I expect now in my life and no I'm not missing signs cause I never see anyone noticing me or had someone initiate a talk with me…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 03:26 AM
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So you're saying any guy not getting approached or signals (as described by you) is because he doesn't look approachable & inviting? So it's not about looks? Cause why else will they approach a guy even if he is approachable & inviting if nothing piques their interest? and you always gotta cross threshold for a woman to see you in sexual light at least for attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 03:21 AM
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What's your age? I ticked all those things in your list save for the Job. 1) Fit , as in 13% BF 2) Side job I'm passionate about. etc etc But most women won't even give signals to me and I'll have to do all the heavy lifting without any eagerness from their part and if they are impressed enough will be like "Wanna get laid? then Relationship!" while I'm in my early 20s and don't want to be presented with this choice as if we're getting married and they're not even that much of catch themselves. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 03:12 PM
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So all the unsuccessful guys are just skipping the social scenarios for whatever else they want? What about those who don't skip these events like at all and nor are they their to specifically get women a.k.a not coming too strong on them and still are unsuccessful?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 03:00 PM
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Would you say getting more fit as in loosing weight (and gaining muscles for men) makes everyone attractive regardless of facial attractiveness (and height for men) i.e., for both men and women? Would you like any women who is fit regardless of if she is petty or not to be attractive as long as her personality is something that you think is great as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 02:53 PM
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Yeah and I said that's why less fortunate looking men have rough experience with whole dating / hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 11:44 AM
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I thought you said personality/behavior can create that physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:38 PM
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Yeah I think everyone have certain looks threshold that needs to be crossed before they'll start see you in sexual light. Don't you need a girl to be pretty or at least attractive for you to approach her or accept her offer if she approached you? Can you find any girl attractive as long as she behave in right way a.k.a good personality as you said in your reply?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:22 PM
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I mean personality is important but everything have their own separate thresholds else any guy can get any girl as long as he behave accordingly (whatever she finds attractive) and you seriously think that's the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:16 PM
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Physical attraction to the person plays into the level of arousal a person might reach. Which is why black pillers won’t shut the fuck up about “Chad = orgasm”. How true is it? Most women will say personality is more important else many men doesn't have anything that's physically attractive on its own. Edit - What I mean is many men apart from Physique can't control much else about their physical attractivity and that in itself won't be enough for men with average to below average height with av…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:46 PM
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Making connection leads to being friend most of the time for most average men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:12 PM
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How is he exotic?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:07 PM
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So that was the end of that. ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 11:12 AM
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Professionally I'm a software engineer but I do digital art more specifically concept arts and sometime I join teams as animator as well and both are me as a freelancer. As a hobby I do lots of different things but major hobbies are Rock Climbing & sometimes I do Painting & Drawing in traditional medium (i.e., not digitally) just for little change, but hobbies depend upon my work schedule heavily as both of my professional as well as side job are hectic when work is in full throttle (but at leas…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:51 AM
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The description you give and lifestyle you convey doesn't add up for me actually (😅) I just can't believe (although that's on me) that you're height and looks didn't made any difference. I know guys like your description but they have a hard time getting laid and I myself (though not as bad as my friends) have hard time getting laid but you said that height and looks doesn't matter and are deficiency that can be overcome by well built physique (which I have) and Good dressing (which I sorta have…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 02:25 AM
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What would you say makes you attractive to women you slept with? Can you get any woman you like?
/r/seduction19/12/21 04:30 PM
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Can you PM me your pics?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 04:19 PM
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Maybe by Chad they mean a Tall Handsome guy with not so disgusting personality that turns of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 04:14 PM
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Yeah man either this guy has serious self esteem issue or is just humble bragging.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:43 PM
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I honestly thought it was average, as both my brothers and a few friends, have had similar experiences. Really? I don't know I've never been complimented or approached by women no matter the mood, context or situation. It's either I approach them (Whether it's successful is another matter) or it's my hand for rest of my life. Even in party when I look around I don't see someone giving signals or just ogling and turning head when I look back, so it's mostly me approaching without any signals of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:40 PM
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I think you have a low self esteem or something. These aren't your average male experience even at that height (I guess) and that's me speaking as guy of 5'8 height. And 6'1 ain't tall? Where are you from?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 04:42 PM
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Wwooww! I (and perhaps majority of men?) have not have even gotten so much as side eyeing from women and Mr. Attractive is getting Business Cards for Private Meetings. (🤣) You must be either god darn Tall or god darn Handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 04:03 PM
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Can you give us examples? 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 03:39 PM
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Yeah but not many can.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 05:53 PM
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I mean what choice does he have other than this?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 05:46 PM
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Would you say Jeff Bezos is more attractive to women than Leonardo DiCaprio? Than I have a bad news for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 05:25 PM
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But is he handsome? I mean most male models have similar way of life into their 40s say Tyson Beckford for example and aren't rich by any means but there's that they're handsome now look up the fortune 500 CEOs heck look at Jeff Bezos now he's well stabilized and in top shape with impeccable grooming but he spends his fortune on prostitutes (That airport news) and his new partner was basically ready to cuck him for Leonardo DiCaprio, check out the video. Any thing to say? If you're attractive th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 05:21 PM
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LOL, millions of men will hope so but that never happens. Go to college campus and tell me these women are fucking any guy who's what you describe and is in their 30s and same is true for women for early to mid 20s. It is only in late 20s when these men start to register in there radar and of course we all know why it does at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 05:11 PM
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I get it but I don't know where people of this forum comes from but in my social circle when one say or imagine an average person he/she means neither attractive nor unattractive just plain looking person and no overweight, at best slight (very slightly) chubby i.e., based on attractiveness scale but people here keep throwing average as in statistical average which of course is obese or overweight at best and use it to prove the argument of how easy it's to become above average in attractiveness…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 05:01 PM
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Average woman as in statistically average which is overweight or just plain looking with neither attractive nor unattractive and definitely not overweight or chubby i.e., based on attractiveness scale? Cause yeah he can get relationship sex with average woman (based on attractiveness scale) after dropping weight and getting more toned and muscular but casual sex with average to above average to downright hot! I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 04:43 PM
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I don't think so. Depends on his standards. In average to attractive range? I don't think so, unless we're talking about relationship sex with average woman than yeah but no casual sex with average woman as well as any sex with attractive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 04:37 PM
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L😂L.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 04:15 PM
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Also, believe me. You can very much be the guy women would fuck and won't date. How? If one is physically unattractive and not much is left to improve as in already in top notch shape with good amount musculature and also good grooming but not overtly fashionable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:28 PM
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Statistically average is different than what most people mean when they say "average". Statistically that guy may well be above average in your locality but doesn't mean he'll come across above average to most women where average in attractiveness means neither attractive nor unattractive so it doesn't mean if you cross some statistical wall to be in top percentile overall if the gender of your preference be a male or female doesn't find you decently attractive and that's definitely isn't effect…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 03:50 AM
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That’s a way to do it. It definitely did a lot for my mental health when I stopped living for sex/relationships. And it turns out that an in-decent-shape guy with good mental health projects just that much more attractiveness. I guess your undermining your attractiveness if you become more attractive by just being carefree. For me it'll have to be active effort to get any lay so I just chose to be MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 04:35 PM
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How can he make himself more attractive? I don't know I improved my fitness & all but never saw any results. I think best advice is to be busy and learn to be happy by oneself and finding same in other avenues of life and be equally ok with ending up alone even for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 04:25 PM
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But not everyone have options so ultimately it's upto them whether they chose to be in it or stay alone for their life so they choose whatever floats their boat
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 04:23 PM
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Seek one-off sex Isn't that's the whole problem cause men can't get it else I think many men will just have one-off sex and be done with relationships (I guess). How do you propose unattractive guys achieve what you propose?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:48 PM
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What about the case where the girls I find attractive doesn't find me attractive. I think that's the problem for majority of guys (I guess) and thus 20s seems bleak.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:03 PM
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So you're saying anyone can go 8/8+ attractiveness scale once they have followed your suggestions?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:26 AM
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And what do you think in what ways they can become more attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:37 AM
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It's just showing that it's bad deal overall for men with her finding more attractive men while him lowering his standards. You should get better examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 06:23 AM
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What if you maximized the looks but still ain't much attractive? I mean playing field will be hard when there's not much attractive options anyway. Maximizing status will be helpful I guess but is it true for early 20s Or only for late 20s to early 30s when women are specifically looking for stable man?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 03:31 AM
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Oh so it's statistical. Basically it's working on principal of how likely are particular traits available with more rarity increasing one's attractiveness so is combination. As like fitness and height both rarity in world right now so both pushing the said individual to top tier bracket and giving points say 6-7/10 so both gave same point cause of rarity and now if they were to be together will give further push.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:35 AM
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Like if 10% of population are fit and you're in that category than you get one point and and adding on if 10% are millionaire and you're too than that another point?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:12 AM
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What do you mean by 10% scale?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 08:42 AM
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"Lol, a 5'9 balding man who has a mortgage he can pay off/has paid part of, and is not fat/is fit is significantly above the average. " I mean he is above average statistically speaking not exactly above average in the sense most people use when they say average which means neither attractive nor unattractive just neutral which could leads to above guy possibly being seen as just average to women even if statistically he is above average. This is like saying "Any woman as long as she is fit, has…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:44 AM
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You think he'll do great with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 10:50 AM
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But aren't those attractive because they're handsome facially? Can someone be attractive without genetic factor like handsome face and tall height but having impressive physique?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:29 AM
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Tony Soprano will not even end up on some of the women on my gym no matter his presence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:11 AM
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I know I used to refer unsuccessful with Incel as well but the times I have hell even I myself got butchered and also when I say anything about Height or Looks or Talent. Apparently as long as one is social and have average personality he'll be successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 05:49 AM
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Oh yeah I can see in that case it being outside of empathy but there still are men who are unsuccessful where they just don't cross the looks threshold for women they're interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 05:47 AM
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But who identifies as Incel? unless goal is to get butchered by people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 05:38 AM
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Hey you were talking about your Incel friend on a thread recently, what's up with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 05:34 AM
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I mean Virginity and good sex life are two different things. One could loose virginity and than remain unsuccessful for a decade before getting another lay. I think these Incels are more concerned with later than previous, as can be seen from Jax's comment. The guy was just downright desperate for anything at all, which will make existence agonizing. Don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 05:33 AM
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Outlier? How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 05:23 AM
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While I don't consider myself Incel but I definitely think after improving my physique I still wasn't getting the kinda women I want so I just left dating altogether. I consider myself more of a MGTOW , which I know is a cope on my part. I feel it's more like MSTOW (Men Send Their Own Way) (😅)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 05:22 AM
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Could standards be a reason for lack of success or would it be just excuse? (As in can anyone can get anyone given enough "game" and "improvement")
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 05:10 AM
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Small minority as in for most Incels it is because they're scared to approach women? Not improving themselves? or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 04:59 AM
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Could either be he is unattractive, short or both or just plain old neurotic and she came along taking charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 04:40 AM
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I was saying that you were working from the assumption that reason for unsuccessful men are antisocial behaviors but what I'm saying is that there can be many more reasons like it can be unattractiveness or standards being high.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 03:10 AM
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What if one hangs around women but isn't attractive enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 03:47 PM
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Oh yeah I got it (😅) we agree than. How much would you say it's improvable?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:06 PM
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Can you explain , "You thing"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:51 PM
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Yeah but most attractive women have standards too. Few women my gym (Dare I say hotter ones) with never date a fat guy doesn't matter if he doesn't across as slob.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:47 PM
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But aren't you of the opinion that looks doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:04 PM
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LOL . Humble Bragging. I mean if you're better version of Drake than I guess that explains.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 04:35 PM
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I guess we disagree than.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 03:34 PM
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Yeah but we still end up at square one than. (1) Be Attractive. (2) Don't Be Attractive. 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 03:10 PM
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I mean hobbies are for one self and should be done for one self only not with the hope of meeting someone or else you'll end up like me still a dating failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 03:04 PM
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So you mean you can get any women not matter how you look given your behavior is right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 02:21 PM
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Are you good looking or tall?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 02:11 PM
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Are you good looking and tall? I only have good physique nothing else but my options in women are not what I would like.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 02:05 PM
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Being top 5-10% physique wise doesn't mean you'll be top 5-10% overall attractiveness wise just top 5-10% physically fit. It take more than just great physique to be top 5-10% physically attractiveness wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 01:55 PM
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I mean depends upon their standards. I could imagine myself ending up in that situation. I'm fairly educated (well currently educating myself) and nice physique but definitely my options aren't upto my standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 01:39 PM
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How much does it helps though? In this subreddit it gets thrown around that how just being fit is guaranteed to place you in top 30% percentile of attractiveness as a man due to obesity problems around us, but than it comes to my mind that just because 70% of preferred gender (women) are obese doesn't make rest 30% automatically above average for me, sure if we are thinking statistically than yes they're above average but I don't think our mind work like that and when one says something is avera…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 06:08 PM
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I don't know man, I don't think I agree with you over the thing that just because there are only 5-10% buff man than that implies those men will be in top 5-10% percentile of attractive man in terms of looks, they'll just be in top 5-10% in terms of fitness. I think same applies for women I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 05:55 PM
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Oh so you're talking about fitness. I thought you were talking about attractiveness. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 05:33 PM
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What do you mean? Like all it takes for a man to be attractive is being fit while for women being fit not necessarily results in improvement in attractiveness if she ain't pretty and big breasts while same is no true for men and can compensate for lack of handsomeness and lack of height by being fit? Or am I reading it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 07:36 AM
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I mean Chris Hemsworth was definitely a 8 before getting the role of Thor. Good Looks (Face) & Height goes a long way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 07:56 PM
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When you say many won't give you chance is it because of you being too good looking or you simply not fulfilling the criteria? I agree on the point that most women are very aware on their standing in attractiveness scale most of the time and not a lot of men are and I also think for many men having trouble, it's more about expectations vs reality factor . Like for myself the only good thing going on is my physique while I score below average to average at best (depending on woman) on good looks …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 03:08 PM
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Alcohol? Yup, else why would I go to bar. It's just that neither I get much success from approaching women I'm interested in nor I get IOIs from anyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 02:17 AM
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I don't do "Dance" because I don't find any enjoyment what so ever out of it, sure I can take part in it just to get girls but that defeats the whole purpose cause I think it should be genuine. Yeah I think it could be standards thing. Do you standards plays the part.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 03:05 PM
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Sorry dance is not my thing. Maybe that's the reason but than again it should have only decreased the number not make it look like sahara desert. The only thing going for me is my fitness, as height wise (5'8) and face wise, I am average at best i.e., depending upon if I am their type or not neither I am going to be popular for Big Dick (4 inch) (atleast I've got silver tongue though). And seeing good looking or tall friends of mine getting approached or gazed is definitely making me insecure an…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 01:42 PM
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When you go out can you get women to hookup most days of the week? Are you what's considered attractive? Cause that's definitely not been my experience. How would you rate yourself facially and body wise?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 06:58 AM
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I know it's late and if you don't mind me asking. Can you tell me what ethnicity is he?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 07:15 AM
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Yeah I agree with self improvement part. I was just responding in agreement with OP for there being different type of hots. Hot-Hot and Ugly-Hot (more like Average-Hot) where former is genetics and determination while later is determination only.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 03:55 AM
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Sorry yeah I forgot about cavill. Marlon is 30 and styles, malik,lanchowski, and blue Smith are 27,26,28 and 22 respectively. But my point wasn't about age but more about good looks being a separate thing from good physique . One have small affect on others (unless you were fat than you might be having some potential). And same was stated by OP when he said how much attractive are dude who might not be good looking but are fit and muscular (and maybe short).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 05:39 PM
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Yeah but not everyone is good looking and tall and I don't think race plays that much of a part despite the cries of most men. But I do think not everyone is blessed with good looks. Most are average at best in looks department and add short height than it becomes even harder for great physique to overcome the deficit in others. And only Hemsworth brothers checks your age marks, rest are younger than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 05:23 PM
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Henry Cavil (in Superman movie). Harry Styles & Zayn Malik (One Directions band). Francisco Lachowski. Marlon Teixeira. Chris Hemsworth (without beard of course, even then he is very good looking). Liam Hemsworth (without beard) Lucky Blue Smith. (Maybe could be age thing but most my age (21) are drooling over them than buffer dudes)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 09:08 AM
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I know one should be confident, but do you really think Brad Pitt's looks didn't played any part in the reaction he got when he was young (Not much of a looker now according to women). I think your heart was in right place but example was quite not upto mark. This makes me wonder whether you're downplaying your looks. Can you PM you're pics (whole top-down) ? I won't publicize them. The kinda thing you're describing is definitely not an experience of average looking but really confident guy. I a…
/r/seduction15/10/21 10:25 AM
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How you show value?
/r/seduction15/10/21 10:03 AM
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You got approached? I think you must be handsome in face. Are you? What's your height?How much would you rate your self in 1-10 scale? Can I see your pic?
/r/seduction15/10/21 09:42 AM
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I am average at best facially (i.e., for right woman) as I am already skinny so my face is somewhat chiseled (but not completely) . And height is 5'8 . The only thing I can do is get as fit as possible but than again here and there I come across threads where some people post collage of pics where men on the pics get called butterface. So all I am counting on is getting as ripped and strong as possible and personality. (Edited)
/r/seduction15/10/21 09:27 AM
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Will looks hinder my sucess? Like leagues and all.
/r/seduction15/10/21 09:09 AM
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Any advice for the women who I like but don't like me back. ( ''Liking" means as in hookup or dates , things always go as far as friendship if we both are okay with it). I get troubles with more attractive women. Can chances with more attractive women be increased?
/r/seduction15/10/21 08:42 AM
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I know it's been 9 days since your post but I want to ask you something. Will going to gym works in all cases or is their some sort of ceiling. Like if one max out his looks than will he be definitely considered attractive or is it just that he'll become better version than his precious self but not necessarily hot or attractive?
/r/seduction15/10/21 07:28 AM
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I know it's been 9 days since your post but I want to ask you something. Will going to gym works in all cases or is their some sort of ceiling. Like if one max out his looks than will he be definitely considered attractive or is it just that he'll become better version than his precious self but not necessarily hot or attractive?
/r/seduction15/10/21 07:27 AM
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Depends, Testosterone in of itself doesn't cause deep voice. So if you start working out in your adult life than BIG NO, the voice ain't getting any deep cause deep voice is cause by your vocal chords and other physical dimension of your lungs etc. Deep voice is more based on genetic and amount of testosterone a person came in contact when he was inside his mothers womb. These two things set the potential and then depending on your nourishment during puberty you either achieve the said potential…
/r/seduction14/10/21 03:46 AM
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4 inch for length? and 4 inch for girth?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 01:46 PM
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What will be your acceptable range length wise. Like how small is too small and how big is too big?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 12:30 PM
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Or it could be not enough desirable guys to put out for?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 07:58 AM
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But are they getting it with 9s and 10s? Danny Devito gets throw around here a lot , sure he might be getting lot of p**ies but not from the kinda women men in this sub keep complaining for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:50 AM
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Should I lower my atandards? Just a genuine question
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:35 AM
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Oh I am not talking about general life I'm talking about hookups and dating (😅) and what you're describing is following passion, I myself do both sketching and painting and write now learning piano and drums (I know odd combination) and I don't know how that relates to my Delimma? I don't know about you but I have never earned any attention from these (although I am not very good at drums), I do have gotten respect but never the attention you speak of, so that feels little unusal for me. Only on…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:22 AM
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But very famous is not something that can be achieved by everybody though. And yeah there are few looks mismatched but they are far and few Between and most eventually settle for their looks equivalent. That kinda depresses me though cause I don't have a lot going on in facial department and height department and idea that I might hit a certain celing even after rigorously working out demotivates me cause it's weird because for me it feels like as I'll started taking care of my looks (that's wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 02:21 AM
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Really?!!! What's your location cause I have only seen very (with emphasis) famous atheletes no matter their attractiveness with models while rest are able to date a league above (I know it's a vague term but still is somewhat agreeable) women if they have something say personality wise or fitness wise or whatever she admires. Heck even a two legue above is possible but rare. So which city are you in? Have you experience been same?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 03:01 PM
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Does facial attractiveness matter? Does all muscular men (whatever is your definition of muscular) will have same effect regardless of facial attractiveness? Just a genuine question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 08:05 AM
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LOL I think I wrote the reply too short to get the point across (Sorry for that) . Me and everyone I know, knows improvement means improved chances with women and everyone should do those regardless of increase in chances with women due to improvement in other faceats in life (atleast that's why I am doing regardless of my failures with opposite sex) but what I was talking about was isn't their a ceiling to how much can one improve before he/she should think of lowering their own standards? I ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 07:37 AM
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Don't you say looks play a part though and for some not much can be done in facial attractiveness apart from body improvement?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 07:04 AM
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Sorry if you my post made my friends seem like over macho type (😅) but I was talking in terms of like say ... like my two friends are part of band and one is a stand up comedian (although I can understand his case cause I think he is not very good at it but gets laugh though so I can't be sure), you know these kinds of guys. If you don't mind me asking what's your experience have been like? How would you rate yourself in terms of looks (facial attractiveness) and body (you know like muscular , s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 06:44 AM
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What would you say the guy on the pic can do?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 06:31 AM
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I don't know man, I have two really good looking guy on top of great body, the way women approach them ,not saying jump on them grabbing their dick just try very hard to be in their proximity and get their attention while they are not what I'll call displaying any musculine traits , they just sort of lie in the bar although it helps that they are genuinely good guys so they don't kill their chance once they meet but they are definitely not very confident. On the other hand I've seen other guys d…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 06:14 AM
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So you're saying looks have no effect at all? And any guy can get any women regardless of his looks but vice-a-versa is not true?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 05:54 AM
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I mean I know good looks aren't enough for women to get aroused but don't you think it will atleast make sure you're more likely to be physically attracted? And also just curious (although it's a month late) but have you ever enjoyed any of the encounter with a client? not talking about cash aspect
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 04:16 AM
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Depends on their standards though. Am I wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 03:51 AM
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But how many look like Tom Cruise and Zac Efron? Sure they are short but don't you think they are handsome and there's nothing much you can do to become that kinda of handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 02:13 AM
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Hey I'm not being offensive but I think it in case of incels its more about their expectations. I think many of them feel that even after lots of work on their looks it will be very hard for them to get the hotter ones (cheerleader and model types I guess?) , certainly not for hookups and casual relationship and I think many of them don't want to end up in situation when in their late 20s or early 30s when one of these women give them chance (We all know their is some truth to this) and even the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 02:12 AM
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Did he never asked out anyone? Where did you read that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:53 AM
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Sure but other black women have also stated such preferences, has all black women have stated such preferences? Absolutely not , but yeah alot have.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:42 AM
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You said you're of black ethnicity right? Damm is it only true for black women or other ethnicity over their in America? Cause I often hear black women with these preferences, which makes me not approach them but why is it like this generally for black women? and also what about other ethnicity?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:45 PM
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Can I ask something, Not attractive as in personality wise, grooming wise, fitness wise or not good facial features i.e., genetic wise?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:37 PM
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Oh sorry for asking personal information. Have a good day (or night?) . Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:57 PM
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(I'm sorry if it will sound offensive) But what's your success is like? Like what kind of women are you able to attract? both looks and personality wise. (Can I see your pic? Cause if you can attract above avg. lookwise than it's likely you are underestimating your looks)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:50 PM
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Than I agree with you. Cause I have seen few of my acquaintance (I am talking about men) who will reject a fit and active woman (I don't know about said woman's personality but they don't even give them chance) just because she doesn't seem to have a pretty face and they feel all their effort to look good will be for nothing but don't seem to comprehend that most of are average looking who are just maxed out on our potential. But again I don't say these things to them cause I feel like a bad per…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:41 PM
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I agree one must keep improving oneself but do you think some things are beyond one's control. Heck there is a reason "butterface"s a term and yes it's also applied to men. One can improve his body so much but still end up short of the results he aspires.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:28 PM
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How would you say one can level up?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:43 AM
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So you're saying any man can get cheerleader equivalent?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:41 AM
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Available for Reddit date?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 02:48 AM
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Both body and face. I guess I'll be single for rest of my life. 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 02:46 AM
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