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CMVLordFishFinger/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 11:49 PM
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Question for BluePillLordFishFinger/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 11:55 AM
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ScienceLordFishFinger/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 08:46 AM
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DiscussionLordFishFinger/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 01:25 PM
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I suggest that you don't judge people intelligence based on random gaps in their knowledge. You very likely have some gaps yourself, which doesn't mean you're dumb, just that you didn't happen to learn those pieces of information. I myself am Very Smart, but I only relatively recently learned that caramel is just burned sugar. It had never crossed my mind!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:10 AM
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I know I am attracted to them Tall queens DM me NOW
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:10 PM
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1 is obviously better
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 04:43 PM
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It's not most, but it's almost 30% (wives outearning husbands, not single mothers). I doubt that they weren't outearning these men before they married them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 10:45 PM
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Not necessarily. If you predict that your kids would regret it, then maybe (though I would think twice about that premise). My greater point was that if it's immoral to create new life in 2022, then it was also immoral to do so at any previous point in history and prehistory. I realize that some people do actually believe that, but most seem to focus on the supposedly terrible present, even though by historical standards it's not terrible at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 12:25 AM
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It is literally the best world that has ever existed. If you don't regret being born, then your kids probably won't either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 11:08 AM
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I think cheating is very bad and don't want to make excuses for it; that being said, the fact that he got fired for it is concerning. Isn't that kind of an invasion of privacy? EDIT: nvm apparently the reason for firing was the fact that his relationship was with a subordinate, not infidelity
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 09:25 PM
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The only MM film that isn't like that is the first one.
/r/MensRights07/04/19 10:29 AM
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All is fair in love and war. Ever heard of the Geneva Convention? And yes, countries to follow it - not 100%, but they don't violate it at every opportunity, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 09:46 PM
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Most of my male friends are pretty cynical and "autistic" and it's hard to talk to them about emotions, art, relationships, meaning of life, etc. because they laugh everything off. My female friends take these things more seriously. As for you - if you aren't a 100% macho man's man, then it's likely that you have some stereotypically feminine interests. Need some advice on fashion, cooking, photography, knitting, soap operas? She's your girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 09:40 PM
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Duck?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/17 10:14 PM
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I don't think there is any dating advice, blue or red, that isn't fundamentally based on inductive reasoning. I don't think the opposite is even possible. Your post is very vague, OP. Could you give some examples where you would apply the principle?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/17 10:40 PM
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Guess which helps the needy more.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 09:19 AM
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I think that one's just a meme. I mean many of these are memes, but while the other ones are based on real stereotypes, the "virgin walk" was just made up completely... I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 10:22 AM
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Are they? In what country? Also, are you using the word "rich" to mean "above the poverty line"? Because that's not how many people use that word.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 08:27 PM
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Doesn't like 60+% of the population (of eligible age) have some kind of college education? Doesn't sound very rich to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 10:00 AM
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I'm pretty sure many of them have actual credentials from real academic institutions. You may think those credentials shouldn't be valid, and you may even be right. But just because real idiots exist in the world doesn't make it very productive to call your opponent one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 02:52 PM
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It's probably not good to call your opponents "pseudoscholars" based on disagreement with their methodology and conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 12:48 PM
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TRP puts obstacles for its own understanding by intentionally using offensive, exaggerated, inflammatory, uncharitable or otherwise neutral-audience-unfriendly language. So it's no wonder people come to the "wrong" conclusions about it. I've heard people say that it's a feature, not a bug - a "locker room" environment is supposed to keep out the normies and make sure that only the most intelligent, the most desperate, or otherwise "ready to be unplugged" people stay. Which is... a potentially go…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 04:09 PM
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Miriam Stein
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 10:01 AM
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I'll take that as a yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 11:04 PM
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So you disagree with OP who says that if there's no personal benefit in something, you have no obligation to do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 10:58 PM
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Feminists claim that injustice against women is too powerful to be defeated without the help of men. You still didn't answer the question. There's nothing in it for me, so why should I do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 10:55 PM
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Answer my question, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 10:51 PM
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A baby is drowning in a shallow puddle. If I save it, I'll ruin my shoes and trousers. Why should I do it? EDIT: the drowning baby is a famous thought experiment in ethics by Peter Singer. Its point is imagining a situation where you can do great help to another at a small cost to yourself, and the moral implications of helping/not helping. It has nothing to do with women being child-like -- if you like, imagine instead a situation where Superman can save a human adult from being hit by a truck.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 10:49 PM
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Do you believe you have no obligations whatsoever towards your fellow man?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 10:48 PM
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That's another discussion altogether. The counter-hypothesis here is this: single parent + loadsamoney = increased risk of criminality disappears. Do you deny this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 11:02 PM
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I'm not sure which is more weird. Probably ignoring poverty, since its link to criminality has much more evidence for it (not to mention being pretty obvious on an intuitive level).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 08:24 PM
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I just think this is a neat intellectual practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 10:11 PM
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How would you quantify someone's pessimism and bitterness? You can't just say "if it didn't work then it means you didn't try hard enough". Also 5 years is a huge time frame for a bet like this. But otherwise it sounds like a good idea. Any volunteers?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 10:04 PM
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You misunderstand or I didn't word that correctly; I would be betting that the sun will rise in the east.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 09:58 PM
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This is correct. It doesn't give TRP an excuse to be a circlejerk, but it does make it unfair to single them out for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 01:39 PM
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If the answer is "corruption", why weren't they strong enough to resist it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 10:06 PM
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If those societies were so strong, why aren't they still around? If the answer is "corruption", why weren't they strong enough to resist it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 09:52 PM
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I think TRP should write a book on how to locate such women. I already know what the title would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 10:23 AM
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Do they not have thrift shops in your area?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 10:10 AM
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she's extremely talented and earned her every penny twice Let's not go that far.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 10:06 AM
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You are at right or wrong, I am at different standards. Oh, I see. Moral vs. non-moral judgment. Well, when it comes to the issue of promiscuity and slut shaming, the judgment is indeed of a moral kind. People don't merely say "female promiscuity is unimpressive", they say "female promiscuity is wrong". So yeah, if someone in a group of people who already agree that there's nothing wrong with casual sex were arguing that women should be congratulated for their notches on the belt just as much me…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 11:38 PM
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I said it's not about easy things No you didn't. You say: The root argument is that being promiscuous is not as hard for women as it is for men so not judging them the same is fair. I say that it's not a relevant difference, insisting that actions are right or wrong, regardless of how hard it is to do them. Do you disagree about the midget robber example? Would you say that being a robber is not as hard for regular people as it is for little people so not judging them the same is fair ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 10:45 PM
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Not an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 12:55 PM
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Mugging an old lady as a regular person is much easier than mugging an old lady as a midget. Should we not shame midget muggers?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 10:07 AM
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Let's just say such a relationship would not be possible under the current laws of physics.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 11:19 PM
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Obviously. But you have to admit that impressiveness has little bearing on the question of whether it's morally wrong for him to rob a bank, which it exactly the point I'm trying to make here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 09:27 PM
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That doesn't answer my question. Nobody said men and women were the same in every single way. It's just that not every difference is important to the issue at hand. Being promiscuous for men is harder, perhaps. But why is being harder the necessary and sufficient thing to justify men's promiscuity? You wouldn't say that it's not wrong for a disabled person to rob a bank just because it's a harder feat to pull off, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 12:10 PM
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Perhaps. Why is this an important distinction?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 12:58 AM
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No two things are the same. You should elaborate why you think the difference is relevant or important.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 10:16 PM
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Maybe one day, when leftists extend me that same courtesy, I'll believe they're arguing in good faith. Until then, I can, and will, read between the lines. Someone's gotta start fixing the discourse. Why not you? And what do you mean by "reading between the lines"? You are talking about implications that no other readers are seeing and the authors would deny making. Are you saying that this is what they secretly think? Well so what, if they don't even try to convince their audience that it is so…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 11:18 PM
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Which, of course, implies that these sorts of behaviors are bad. No, it implies that they correlate with bad things, not that they're bad in themselves. There's a popular belief that being a great artist correlates with psychopathy and depression. If that's true, then does that mean that psychopathy and depression are good? Or that being a great artist is bad? I've also noticed that you didn't exactly criticise the study on its own merits. You just called the researchers biased because you didn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 10:14 PM
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So you're saying you're a big guy... for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 06:54 PM
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The Hunt is always recommended in threads like these, very emotionally powerful movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 10:48 AM
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Nearly every single one of them involves some kind of coming-of-age process where the nerd overcomes his timidity and performs some act of courage (either directly related to romance or something else) that makes him a new man, and which makes him able to win the girl. So while they're still not realistic, they nonetheless don't "teach" you that you should change nothing about yourself and the girl of your dreams will just fall into your lap.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 09:21 AM
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Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 06:50 PM
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Dude, you're citing an 80-year-old study.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 07:44 AM
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I didn't know Chads could travel to the anime world. That must be where they get their power!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 08:23 PM
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It's foolish to believe they're a real investment, however there's nothing wrong with playing the lottery just for fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:11 AM
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Why do you see a meaningful difference between "catcalling has worked 0 times in history" and "catcalling has worked 1 time in history"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:09 AM
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"microaggressive" Come on. The word used is almost always microagression, which is a noun and denotes an action. You're cheating with this one. Also your post comes off as if implying that consequentialism, deontology and VE are 3 "branches" of ethics - as if a person ought to use all three to find some kind of balance. This is not the case, they are all supposed to be all-encompassing approaches to ethics. Not sure if this is how you think, but your post makes such an impression.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 01:06 PM
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It's a claim about a real world. It's measurable and falsifiable. Your original post does not contain arguments, only a declaration of position. If you were wrong, how would you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 07:37 PM
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It is the source of truth in some things. What you have is an empirical claim, and so it requires empirical evidence. Otherwise I can just say "nuh uh" and be just as right as you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 12:16 PM
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In this case it is. Otherwise how can you claim that what you're saying is really true?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 11:45 AM
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cherry picking their posts with sweaty, trembling hairy palms That's out of line.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 05:48 PM
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I've heard this logic many times for the last few days. Anti-SJWs, the KKK and Mia Khalifa preferred Trump to Clinton. Trump won. Therefore, anti-SJWs, the KKK and Mia Khalifa are all driving forces in American politics. Please provide empirical evidence that resistance against feminism was actually a deciding factor in the election. And don't cite prominent supporters - for all we know, they could just be vocal minorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 10:16 PM
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Aurini is like the fedora stereotype come to life, what with all the suits, skulls and shaking whiskey glasses. I can't tell if he's being satirical or if he's really that clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 08:00 AM
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I go to a university faculty which has at least 75% female students and even more female professors. I never felt disadvantaged due to that, in fact I actually sometimes feel (and this is just a feeling and not even a story I can tell you - but anyway) that males hold more influence per capita in the community, have longer speaking turns and the male teachers are more popular - perhaps because of some kind of natural male leadership capability, or because they are sexually attractive to the fema…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 07:42 AM
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Affirmative action driving smarter, better-suited men out of jobs and leaving them to less capable women. A school system biased against boys makes it harder for them to contribute, even if they're smart. Anti-male work environments where men have to walk on eggshells to avoid lawsuits. That's not brain drain. also causes some educated ones to emigrate. Any evidence that this is happening on a significant scale?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 07:57 PM
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How does feminism enable brain draining? To where, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 08:09 PM
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By "MRAs" do you mean actual self-identified MRAs or are you just applying the label to someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 06:59 PM
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I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 09:22 PM
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Can you say for sure that they aren't?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 09:18 PM
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Hostile mods effect?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 06:50 PM
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It would be entirely uncontroversial to point out the latest pop star has a lot of fangirls Of course. It is more plausible and requires fewer assumptions, therefore the prior probability is higher and the standard of evidence required to be convincing is lower. Compare the claims "smoking causes lung cancer" and "reading Hemingway causes lung cancer". You can, of course, look up studies that concern these. But what if you didn't? Wouldn't you still think one of them is more likely to be true? T…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 08:23 PM
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a tiny proportion of the overall population are his fangirls but does that mean the fact he has fangirls says absolutely nothing about general trends? Not nothing, but perhaps not as much as one'd think. Again, it's important to establish just what percentage of the general population applies here. Relevant article.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 10:17 AM
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hundreds sending love letters every single day Where does it suggest that it was one letter per woman? The Wikipedia article on hybristophilia names another serial killer whose fan had sent him 75 letters, it's likely that Bundy had compulsive writers as well. it only makes sense to assume there were many more who didn't go that far How many more, though? doesn't mean it's incorrect to suggest he has a lot of fangirls If I had, say, 10,000 fangirls who were in love with me that would be more tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 08:35 AM
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You are yet to present any evidence that the average American woman is a "casual fan" of Ted Bundy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 09:03 PM
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How many women sent those letters to him, as a percentage of all American women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 06:23 AM
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I'm going to come to your house and steal all your expensive shit. I can do it easily and totally get away with it. It works at making me richer. Are you going to just shrug your shoulders when that happens and say "it's not my lucky day"? Or are you actually going to be outraged? Now why would you feel angry at a man using effective get-rich techniques?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 06:19 AM
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That's a funny definition of hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 04:46 PM
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Xbone is for casuals, though. The Wii had a much better library.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 02:38 PM
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Are you sure it's all the same men saying these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 02:34 PM
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haha benis :DDD
/r/MensRights27/08/16 06:49 AM
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Chris-chan is not a person who belongs to any particular type. He's (she? whatever) a one of a kind human bean, a category of his own, a single-member set.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 10:51 PM
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that doesn't erase away the discussion of what influenced the work in the first place and what meaning it had to the people making it I think those are some pretty trivial things, especially the latter. My problem is with you saying that the interpretation would be "just crazy film theory" if we didn't know that both Wachowskis were transgender (which we didn't in 1999) - which is ridiculous because it's still the same movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 10:29 PM
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He was completely wrong. Every species proliferates exponentially whenever its ecological constraints are removed. When the Chinese exterminated sparrows in the 60s, their fields were completely swarmed by locusts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 10:03 PM
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If this wasn't directed by two trans women, this could all just be crazy film theory, but both of them are actually transgender, its kind of hard to deny the influence. THE AUTHOR IS DEAD, PEOPLE You don't need to (nor really can) justify your interpretation of a work of fiction by comparing it to the author's biography. If you see it, it's there; if others don't see it, then you just aren't very good at convincing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 09:50 PM
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Come on dude, Sean Murray isn't fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 06:59 PM
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Governments should fuck off in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 06:51 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbYXvSKjP98
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/16 04:14 PM
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They do if it's in 2D.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/16 10:17 AM
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Getting rejected heaps takes its toll What kind of toll? Many say it numbs them to the pain and helps them get more confidence. Also, being perceived as a ''creep" because you make women uncomfortable takes a toll, socially. It does if you live in a village with 100 people. In any kind of bigger city you are very unlikely to gain any kind of reputation with strangers one way or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/16 09:56 AM
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Why does it matter? Because, depending on your reliability, you could be missing out on a lot of false negatives (as well as wasting time for many false positives). If it's 99.9% then it's negligible, but if it's something like 70% then that's another thing. For me, it's 100% success rate using this strategy. Neat, but it's also kind of a useless perk. There's no rational reason not to scratch out free lottery tickets.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 09:55 AM
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Plenty of people like it, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 08:57 AM
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So how much? 80%? 90%? 95%? Give an approximation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 08:56 AM
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If you can't read people's body language, learn how to do that before you start trying to have sex with people. How reliable (in %) is the ability of a person who has learned to read body language to correctly determine whether a woman wants to be left alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 09:07 PM
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It's not like they'll get permanent mental scars from it. If the man is not being rude or vulgar then the discomfort felt by the woman is equivalent to that of getting asked the time or getting called by a wrong number. They'll live. You're basically saying that 2 people, a man and a woman, should lose the opportunity to experience the joy of going out on a date in order to save 99 women from 5 minutes' discomfort. Now I'm not very good with the felicific calculus, but the latter seems a good pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 09:01 PM
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droogs What are the leftist policies on friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 08:41 PM
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Well if they aren't then it doesn't matter. But you can't dismiss them beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 03:27 PM
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Why does it even matter if they're right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 05:24 PM
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Well if you find a flaw in their actual criticism that's another thing. But the source shouldn't really matter if you aren't trying to divert attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 08:34 AM
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That seems pretty irrelevant, unless you're deciding whether to take their word for something.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 08:30 AM
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Y'all motherfuckers need Kant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 10:39 PM
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What it doesn't make you is wrong. You are not allowed to throw away valid criticisms just because they don't come bundled with alternatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 07:43 PM
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The focus isn't on Quinn, it's on Kotaku. The incident was merely a spark that led people to discover just how much collusion there was among journos.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 12:43 PM
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Imagine I came across a guy beating another guy to death. And rather than help or do something to stop the aggressor, i stand idly by criticizing the rationales of others who are attempting to stop the aggressor. What exactly can a comment thread that discusses another comment thread that discusses a news article can do to help the problem in question?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 12:32 PM
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They don't look particularly shocked to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 05:31 PM
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It's dialectal usage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 09:08 AM
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What a twist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/16 07:07 PM
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Please don't lean on "florida man" articles to claim equality. Please. I'm asking nicely. And why not? Are you saying your video was not just as much of an outlier?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/16 05:46 PM
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/r/dragonsfuckingcars
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/16 05:41 PM
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Really? You don't see any other reason why two people would be home alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 11:23 PM
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any real scientist As decided by whom? Physicists and chemists don't exactly reject social sciences, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 06:07 PM
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Hah! Says you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 08:29 AM
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Examples of studies, please? Not just any scientific studies, just ones that disprove the points made in the ones posted here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 01:10 AM
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As opposed to what evidence to the contrary?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 07:39 PM
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guys asking "if the curtains matched the drapes" That doesn't even make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 12:02 PM
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Don't you think you're more likely to act on them if you hold them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 08:46 AM
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Says you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 09:19 PM
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OP, do you believe there is such a thing as an immoral thought?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 09:12 PM
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Two wrongs don't make a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 09:10 PM
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No, it's more like that <my ingroup> vs. <my outgroup> is like Charlie Hebdo vs. fundamentalism, cause we're smart and civil, while they're stupid and dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 10:24 AM
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You're underestimating how far the left can get if you think those are far left.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 10:21 AM
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His comedy is great, but he's liked on TRP for his actual views and advice. Well, why can't TBP do the same? Thread 1: silly comedy and satire Thread 2: straight-faced opinion and discussion As long as the distinction is clear, I don't see the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 10:12 AM
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True, but the reason stand up comedy is funny, is because they say things that are true. No, they only have to seem true. A lot of stand-up comedians make points that are funny and clever at the moment, but when you pick them apart they don't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 10:09 AM
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So what is the cutoff age point for inceldom?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 05:24 PM
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Not how it works. Well that can't stop me from criticizing it, right? A lot of redpillers come to PPD, asking "why don't people like TRP? is it because they are misandrists who don't want men to learn sexual strategy?" No, it's because of bullshit like this. This is your interpretation here. No, it's a scientific fact. I'm not asking TRP to adopt an egalitarian ethical position, just to stop implying that men have 23 ribs and women have 24. Like I said, if other subs or groups are allowed the fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:42 AM
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So it is not a requirement that they mention how men hamster. All I want is an acknowledgment that men hamster al all. why must TRP change its language to accommodate a position they are not interested in holding? TRP isn't interested in being truthful and accurate? Imagine if the paragraph in the glossary was changed to this: Hamster - Used to describe the way that people use rationalization to resolve mental conflict and avoid cognitive dissonance. The core mechanism that allows people to say …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 08:28 PM
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I'm not saying your criticisms of feminism aren't valid (I won't get into them here), but applying them would require major changes in agenda and policy. All I'm suggesting is a small change-up in the language to prevent misinformation. why is it not okay for TRP to speak about sexual strategy within the confines of their sub as it pertains to their interactions with women? It's okay, but none of that requires the implication that i.e. hamstering is a mainly feminine trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 12:38 PM
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I'm not closely familiar with these things, but sure, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 09:52 AM
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Are feminists sexist for focusing on female rape and female rape victims first? Not necessarily. It would be sexist to imply, even unintentionally, that male victims and female perpetrators don't exist, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 07:25 AM
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I don't think that disproves my point. Even if everyone married randomly, you'd still end up with more marriages where the man has a higher income than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 07:23 AM
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Again: no need to write entire essays on male psychology (then again, it can't hurt to know yourself if your goal is improving your strategy, right?). All I'm saying is that it would be less sexist not to use language that implies a phenomenon is uniquely female when it in fact is not. Imagine a definition like this: Rapist: a man who forces someone else to have sex with him Again, that's sort of correct - a man who does that is indeed a rapist. But it reinforces the idea that women can't be rap…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 06:15 PM
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If you think that TRP is "all men are wonderful" you really havent spent much time there I didn't say so. I said that there was a lot of needlessly gendered language on TRP. From the TRP glossary (emphasis mine): Hamster - Used to describe the way that women use rationalization to resolve mental conflict and avoid cognitive dissonance. The core mechanism that allows women to say one thing and do a different thing. It's technically not wrong - women do, indeed, have this mechanism. But to someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 09:40 AM
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There's no need for an in-depth analysis of male psychology and behavior, just an acknowledgment of things that are universal. Otherwise some readers will get the impression that there are gender differences in places where there aren't any.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 11:07 PM
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Women still, by and large, date and marry above themselves As long as any kind of wage gap persists, that is a statistical inevitability, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 10:19 PM
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I've skimmed through both parts of that post and it seems to be some guy's observations from personal life. The only data he links to is differences in IQ and religious conversion rates, which is something, but not enough to make the case. In what situation? In all of them. If men are so good at detecting their own hamsters, they would be able to self-correct and eventually become perfectly rational bias-free machines. This doesn't seem to be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 10:11 PM
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That's plausible, but what evidence is there to the contrary?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 09:58 PM
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Citation? Also that doesn't seem to make a lot of sense - if men can recognize their own bias, why do they persist in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 09:42 PM
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One of the things about TRP that I consider truly sexist is talking about universal human attributes as if they are predominantly feminine. Yes, as a man, you also have a very strong rationalization hamster; the more you ignore or deny it the better it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 08:43 PM
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there were a lot of babies that came out of the woodwork when this started The babies are always there. Everywhere, on every comment section. The media ignores them, unless it's convenient not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 07:28 PM
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Because they and their apologists didn't directly taunt the audience. I mean, maybe the "haters" were the ones who started it. But once "baby men" and "see it or you're sexist" started popping out, a lot of people who would otherwise dismiss it were attracted to the movie and to speak their minds on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 10:02 AM
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That's not a kafkatrap.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 12:07 AM
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putting a new twist on an old classic That is a very good euphemism for "soulless cashgrab".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 12:01 AM
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I see. And if it was you they stole from? Would you tolerate it if they were poor?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 10:24 PM
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So you're not praising or condemning it either way, like you did with people reporting their relatives?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 09:52 PM
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It's not for you, don't be surprised you don't like it. So you agree that it's pointless when redpillers complain that some people "just don't get" their subreddit? In fact, for a bunch of dudes you'll never ever interact with, you seem way too invested. Go unsubscribe, spend some time with your lovely man, who doesn't treat you like this. Maybe go blow him out of appreciation. I'm sure there's a bachelor or housewife show that's a much better way to get your dopamine rush, I hear twitters good …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 09:51 PM
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You should also spam gore photos from time to time to purge them, like /b/ used to do. That'll leave only the true hardcores! I mean, if you want to intentionally obfuscate your meaning for the sake of elitism or something, then that's fine. But you can't complain when it works and people from the general population do, indeed, fail to understand TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 09:15 PM
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Maybe you wouldn't. We're talking about someone who might, perhaps foolishly. Would it be justifiable?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 09:08 PM
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"Fuckbuddies" is also somewhat inflammatory, which is why the euphemism "friends with benefits" is used, as above. And don't come up with that "objectification" bullshit. And why not? Maybe that's not the author's intention but it certainly evokes that imagery in many readers. "Plates" is only half bad. "Cock carousel" or "hamster" are worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 09:07 PM
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You know exactly what I mean. Maybe this woman would, or maybe he could sell the ring for money and buy his wife something else. Would it then be justified or even obligatory not to return the ring?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 08:50 PM
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I'm sure some people would. You're dodging the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 10:15 AM
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A is valued at 100 and B is valued at 20 By whom? Value is subjective. If you weren't winning, you'd refuse the trade.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 10:13 AM
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That's because TRP terms are purposefully loaded and inflammatory. I don't see how anyone but them is to blame for the misunderstandings.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 10:04 AM
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How many women get killed for alleged cheating? How many men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 09:04 AM
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I think it is. Tell me why you think it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 08:55 AM
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A man walks down the street and sees a woman walking in front of him drop something shiny without noticing. He picks it up and sees that it's an expensive ring, and also exactly the kind of ring his wife would like to wear if she could afford one - which she can't. He decides to return the ring to its owner anyway. Is this act akin to adultery? After all, he put a stranger's interests above his spouse's.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 09:34 PM
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Is your SO also fat? Just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 11:46 AM
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I'd speculate it's less related to dieting for health purposes and more moderation to conserve resources, i.e. if you see a fat caveman, you wouldn't want to get along with him because he'll eat out your whole food stockpile. In that way it's more akin to gambling than smoking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 11:42 AM
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Have you heard of the Chinese robber fallacy? Basically, if someone's default hypothesis is "TRP generally doesn't improve one's chances", then you literally need millions of examples for it to be substantial evidence against it. "But there are so many stories!" - not enough on a statistical level.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 09:52 PM
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So much for feminist influence, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 07:44 PM
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I saw a thin guy (quite handsome, too) and his pretty fat gf on the bus last week. She seemed pretty happy, he seemed ok. Other than that, fat guy/thin girl couples is something I see a bit more often, but not by much. Also fat + fat couples don't count as these are common. Funny enough, but I don't think I've ever seen one. Middle-aged married couples, sure, but not young people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 07:42 PM
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...you didn't try to make that a consistent metaphor, did you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 01:45 PM
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Define masculinity and femininity in a non-tautological way, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 10:29 AM
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the same feminist Please post examples of particular feminists that do both things. Two different feminists don't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 09:16 PM
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What social class are incels most highly represented in? I bet it's not the working class.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:32 PM
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Raise the price and the supply will rise as well. won't respond to any denying or minimising the problem that comes with pimps or human trafficing. Because I don't argue with idiots I've made up my mind, please don't scrutinize my strongly held beliefs lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:32 PM
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Please post some posts from feminists saying they don't want incels to complain online. "I got that impression from reading their writings" doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 05:14 AM
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As a tall person, I catch myself overestimating shorter people's height all the time - significantly shorter people look almost as tall as myself to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 11:25 AM
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I don't know how much having black ancestry helps or hurts in the dating world, but if people literally don't notice it then I'm guessing not much either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 02:13 PM
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No sense being polite on the internet or shying away from offensive language. When, in order to express your ideas, you use offensive language that mindkills half the people who read it, it becomes a problem. You have no right to complain when people dislike your posts when you don't do the easiest thing to make them accessible (without losing any of the substance). It's like intentionally writing an essay in bad handwriting. You won't be understood, and it will be your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/16 10:15 AM
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Your point about blind auditions is misleading; after switching their selection methodology to that, the number of women in orchestras increased, suggesting there being anti-female bias before.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 10:39 AM
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Why would any culture be accommodating towards rape? What's the benefit?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 04:57 PM
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Some of those free choices you mentioned may arguably have positive or negative utility. Have I got the right to use coercion to alter people's personal choices? No. But to use rhetoric, incentives or social pressure? I believe I have. In this sense - yes, I can tell you what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 04:56 PM
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What do you think this subreddit is about?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 09:36 AM
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/r9k/ is an internet forum where anonymous users come to roleplay as angry frogs. Everything in there ought to be taken with a boulder of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 08:09 AM
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Is that how you think it should be?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 07:56 AM
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So here we are debating the meaning of the word "most". Not debating, specifying. Some find it too vague.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 10:29 PM
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That could be anywhere from 50.01% to 99.9%.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 10:22 PM
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Are you saying that nothing that is consensual can be immoral or harmful to society?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 10:24 AM
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Thanks for clarifying. It wasn't, in fact the opposite was apparent. Don't confuse your object-level positions with your meta-level positions (this goes out to everyone including myself).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 11:09 PM
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That's debatable, but it's not what you implied. You said: Slut shaming is just that, shaming. As if shaming was something wrong by nature. You then used a bunch of negative epithets to describe what's essentially trying to exert influence on individuals by way of social pressure. But you do that yourself, don't you? So which is it? Is slut shaming wrong because it's slut shaming or because it's slut shaming? Because these are different positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 10:00 PM
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X shaming is a tactic used to degrade, minimize, humiliate, ultimately control people who do X in order to convince them not to do X. Assuming that X is wrong, what's wrong with X shaming?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 08:23 PM
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Looks like a ripoff of Sexmission. I'm guessing it has a lot of dumb jokes about stereotypes (woman fixing a car, man doing the dishes, LOL!).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 05:11 PM
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If I had 75 pages of multiple studies peer reviewed and all pointing to the same thing would you actually be willing to consider it? Yes. Feel free to do just that. You expect eveything to conform to an (arbitrary) western academic standard. The scientific method is as arbitrary as epistemology itself. I can't prove to you, beyond doubt, that it is true, just as I can't prove that anything is true at all - brain in a jar, etc. It's still the best thing we've got, however. its not necessarily sup…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 05:04 PM
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Okay prosperity is good, I can agree with that., but if you buy it at the cost of a weaker progeny can it really be said to be prosperity? If both parents are stressed and don't have time to really be parents because everyone must now work is that prosperity? Yeah. People choose to work for luxuries nowadays as opposed to necessities. But maybe I'm wrong about the whole thing. Making predictions about future society is something even experts aren't very good at, not to mention people like us. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 08:27 AM
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Since you are obviously doubting the observation (I don't know what the basis you have for that is aside from: "its old") No, being old doesn't make it wrong - and it also doesn't make it right. I am doubting it because it makes controversial scientific statements without proper scientific evidence or philosophical argument other than "the religion says". Every claim it makes should be followed with [citation needed]. The "observations" are worthless because they aren't rigorous or make any evid…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 11:35 PM
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This is your logic right now: Someone a long time ago believed X Therefore, X is true. QED There is no evidence provided for it other than (likely biased and definitely not rigorous) observations made in a text that was not (as far as I know) a part of any dialectical system where it would be tested and challenged. What I'm saying is that, even if it's 100% true, it's still just "hey neat, someone from that time thought this as well". This would not and should not convince a skeptic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 08:53 PM
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those "nerdy" women's problems are imagined So you're saying that the biggest problem is their dysfunctional mindset? How is that different from what TRP's trying to cure?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 08:56 PM
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I don't buy into utilitarianism one iota, no matter how persuasive the argument may seem. That's not a good attitude to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 08:41 PM
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Nothing to see here except political correctness gone wrong. You really think this is a modern thing? pls
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 08:38 PM
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Many proverbs are false.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 07:14 AM
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It is false. Plenty of things are unfair in both love and war, it's why we have the Geneva convention.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 09:30 PM
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all's fair in love and war What?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 09:22 AM
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There was a post on here some time ago that said that basically ever since homosexuality has entered the public consciousness, men look for intimacy only with women. Before that, male friends would platonically hug, peck and sit on each others' laps all the time. Sounded plausible to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 11:57 PM
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I'm afraid I don't quite follow that analogy. A CMV is made by someone who holds a certain belief with a 50%+ certainty. Ideally, the OP will accept all good counterarguments and alter his view, while also discarding all bad counterarguments. What's wrong with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 10:02 AM
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They're twice as valid for bad authoritarian governments. Great, so all we have to do is install an authoritarian government and hope it is and stays good. That's definitely a good gamble. Also I don't think I'd want a modern day Genghis Khan.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 09:58 AM
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If his counter-counterarguments are good, then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 07:58 AM
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It's a smug tongue-in-cheek bingo card containing mostly stereotypes and red flags of this concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 12:36 AM
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Why? If the OP can really expose those weaknesses, then that's for the better, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 12:35 AM
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They didn't get there first. All of your criticisms of democratic politicians, as valid as they may be, are twice as valid for authoritarian governments. You know where "bread and circuses" originated, right? It certainly wasn't San Marino.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 12:33 AM
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We need to end modern decadence and hedonism and restore the institutions of family, patriarchy, and motherhood. And you're trying to sell this to libertarians? Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 12:22 AM
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We've seen where government by consensus leads The moon?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 12:20 AM
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If you remember back in 2008, you would see Ron Paul threads and discussions of Libertarianism everywhere on the internet. Now where are those threads? Where was the love for Rand Paul this time around? I think many Paul supporters got absorbed by Bernie; they just wanted an anti-establishment messiah all along. But the Libertarian Party itself had an actual televised debate this year. I don't think it's becoming less mainstream. Think about how much TRP (and I) love Vladimir Putin. We have alwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 09:54 PM
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Can't find it. Link?
/r/MensRights23/04/16 07:57 AM
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That's tragic, but it looks like they're being prosecuted and have a major media story around the case. Don't see any injustice against men-as-a-whole here.
/r/MensRights23/04/16 07:52 AM
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This isn’t an example of the outgroup doing something, but it is the sort of thing they’d probably do, so it’s still evidence against them! So intellectual. Do you really not have enough real criticisms of feminists that you have to make up speculative bullshit about them?
/r/MensRights23/04/16 07:50 AM
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What does this have to do with men's rights?
/r/MensRights22/04/16 11:49 PM
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Men tend to be rational and logical. We disregard feelings if the evidence out weighs our emotions. Yeah, you're going to have to put up a citation here. As far as we know, men are just as likely as women to succumb to cognitive biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 08:22 PM
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That's not what people who've come back from wars seem to say. Well, maybe except this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 12:12 AM
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They do it because they feel they have to kill the enemy, same reason they extinguish the fires. If there was a peaceful way to satisfactorily solve the conflict, I'm certain most would pick that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 09:24 PM
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You're saying they just like killing people for fun in real life? I find that hard to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 08:58 PM
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A lot of people volunteer to be firefighters, too, doesn't mean that they "love" fire. See what I mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 07:36 PM
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Oh, I don't have a problem with military hobbyists. I highly doubt most people would actually want there to be an actual war, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 07:01 PM
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People will throw rocks at you. What people? Why do you think society is so homogenous?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 06:19 PM
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Then I suspect you're going to have a hard time finding one. I think most people will accept just war as a necessary evil at times, but only ones like Mussolini will actually like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 06:13 PM
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Is this nigga serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 10:59 AM
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I mean, it's kind of a high standard, but what's sexist about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 10:55 AM
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distaste for [...] war is an instant nope Even moral distaste?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 10:49 AM
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above 6'1" is pretty much autogf territory anyways Yeah, I wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 05:18 PM
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Many of them don't cancel each other out. You can be at your bravest and at your kindest at the same time, hypothetically.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 08:06 PM
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I'm yet to see actual convincing evidence from the so-called "other people" that they even exist at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 02:55 PM
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I had an easy major with a 2:1 female majority and I didn't get laid because I spent most of my time on anime and video games. Check and mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 09:47 AM
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Friendship is unnecessary. It's also not monogamous*, so I can have as many or as few friends as I want. Why not keep the good ones, regardless of gender? *unless you're a child. I remember feeling really jealous when my friend would play with anyone else but me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 09:12 PM
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I just retook it and got ENTP-T, something different from what I had gotten before. A lot of these questions are iffy, too. For example: Logic is usually more important than heart when it comes to making important decisions. That's a belief. It's something some people consider to be universally true; that is, everyone would benefit from more logic and less heart. That says little about what people actually do in important situations. Let's say you "strongly disagree" with that statement, but the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 10:33 AM
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If you should have any empathy whatsoever, it should be for those people. You are not forgiving if you only forgive things you don't see as transgressions, you are not pluralistic if you only acknowledge viewpoints you deem acceptable and you are not tolerant if you only tolerate the ingroup. Love your enemies. In any case, I only asked for intellectual charity, and not empathy in some broader sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 10:23 PM
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I've skimmed through some of it, and I'm not very impressed. The whole site is a mess that looks like it was made in Geocities. I don't like how it opens by trying motte-and-bailey me into "if you believe in (very common belief) you are already a feminist!" and then attaching dubious claims to that concept. I also found the "men are stronger than women" article to be pretty strawmanny. Most of it is just history of feminism, which is neat, but not something that would convince me whether I shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 10:08 PM
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See, now you're actually answering OP's question. Good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 10:30 AM
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The outgroup is so uniformly irrational that there's no point arguing against them, so just assume the ingroup is always right! How convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 10:12 AM
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That's not very charitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 10:00 AM
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A lot of it, unfortunately. Which is why the above technique is so useful. Again: try to make your commentary/critique of TRP without using the words "fascism", "fascist", "Mussolini" and others. Because so far, your comparison seems superficial and not proving anything of substance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 07:58 AM
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This thread is why using any term with a disputed definition, especially if the dispute is controversial, detrimental to healthy debate. OP, try to taboo "fascism" and try to say what you're trying to say by using other words (and not just synonyms).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 11:59 PM
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Fascists confirmed for faggots.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 11:55 PM
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To reduce it further might be break it. Maybe it should be broken, then. I've personally always found the spectrum to be an extremely disorienting construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 11:55 PM
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Broadly speaking: your anger may or may not be justified, but even if it is that still does not justify every expression of it. When you unfairly attack people or make baseless or untrue statements, you will get called out for it, even if your motivation is backlash against being genuinely wronged.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 09:55 PM
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Imagine how a woman in the same situation would have been treated. Would there have been the presumption that a man couldn't possibly behave that way? Would the 'relationships expert' have insulted the woman in question by crapping on about a load of theory before briefly addressing the actual situation? Would the woman have been told that she's basically an idiot and should have left ages ago, and if she can't work that out for herself then she shouldn't be wasting the time of the 'relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 09:05 PM
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Someone in a newspaper advice column wrote a shitpost and you're taking it as proof of society's stance on something or other? Come on, son.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 02:10 PM
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Most people who reach adulthood and stay assholes are that way exactly because they are never shamed. Never shamed by whom? A person grows up in an environment where there he is not shamed for being an asshole, leaves it, enters another environment where he is shamed for it; you then generalize both environments as "society" and call them both hypocrites for it. Do you see the problem here?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 08:29 AM
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I'm sure the women who want to signal their wealth can do so by wearing extravagant jewelry or something like that. A lot of the girls I know that I consider well-dressed wear stuff found in thrift stores, so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 07:52 AM
1

Do men not care how women are dressed? Or are they also covertly after the money?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 09:41 PM
1

Way ahead of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 10:20 PM
2

A hole is a hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 08:27 PM
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let alone in the 21st century You sure about that? I think it's easier than ever, even just in the social dimension.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 02:46 PM
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strong fictional female characters from superheroes comics to manga/anime heroines is not just marketed to a female audience but also to a male nerd audience Speaking of anime in particular: there are a lot of female characters who are very competent at fighting robot demons with swords and whatnot (perhaps men are attracted to status after all?); but if an audience surrogate male protagonist is present, they rarely act dominant towards him. At most you'll get an aggressive tsundere, but rarely …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 03:15 PM
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That's because Zoe wasn't very good-looking, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 03:06 PM
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what makes you think it was? It's a more intuitive, more charitable interpretation with fewer assumptions. It just sounds ridiculous, frankly. The use of genital metonymy to describe a gender is nothing new. The male equivalent would be "wow, this place is a sausagefest!" - it doesn't imply men are only defined by their dicks, but simply there are many males in the area. what would be good evidence of it? Well there's plenty of anecdotal and even statistical evidence for things like promiscuity …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 09:10 AM
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It's kind of weird to have an 8 minute trailer, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 08:57 AM
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Then, this blue piller says, oh she is just joking, she is calling herself a vagina as a positive term, it's just a joke. That's because it probably was. I don't think no women are "promiscuous, hypergamous, or embody themselves as sexual objects", but "vaginas in a pool" is laughably bad evidence of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 09:40 PM
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Sure, I'd consider it at least. Test which involve "I want it from you but you're not supposed to give it to me!" are incoherent and promote virtue signaling instead of honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 11:18 PM
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Fair enough. Publication bias is a thing; perhaps JASNH needs more support. But I hope you still see why your opponent would not be expected to be convinved by "me and my friends all believe it!". I also hope you see that this line of thinking is dangerously close to "it's not confirmed by studies because it's so obviously true that they didn't bother". After all, if not everyone is convinced, then the common wisdom is perhaps not so common, and warrants a study.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 06:22 PM
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If these things are so obvious, then how come there is no reliable scientific source that confirms them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 05:08 PM
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So matter what you can't win. Have you considered the idea that this is because your beliefs are baseless? I do agree that isolated demands for rigor are bad, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 08:13 AM
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Everyone suffers from confirmation bias. The important thing is to detect it when it happens instead of dismissing it with "everyone knows it's true!" or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 08:09 AM
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a sample of ~150,000 men saying "Yeah, I've noticed this trend as well" deserves to hold some consideration Not all TRP subscribers are posters, so that sample would be nowhere near as large as 150k. I'd be more willing to accept this sample if it was 1. randomized to any degree and 2. didn't have Reddit syndrome. The average TRPer is someone who already came there with a high consideration for the idea that society is hiding some big secret, so he is not the average man. You might as well say t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 08:05 AM
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Is this you, OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 04:25 PM
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It looks like it's actually from the Bible, and it's applied to both: 3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. 5 Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 11:01 AM
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The Russian euphemism for sex (within marriage) is "the marital duty". It's tongue-in-cheek, but it kind of reflects the truth, in my opinion. I don't think the husband is entitled to sex at any moment he demands it, no. But if he's not getting it at all, then there's something wrong with the marriage. Maybe it's his fault, or hers, but the expectation to have sex while married is reasonable. In that sense, yes, I think he is entitled to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 09:24 AM
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So you agree that changing beauty standards through the media could work for a new generation (regardless of whether or not it should be done)?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 10:53 AM
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You can put fatties on every magazine cover and tv show and street corner ad, and my dick will remain unpersuaded. Maybe yours won't. What about someone growing up?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 08:58 AM
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Because he's le cuck meme. Love the video's title, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 08:49 PM
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Americans should be allowed to eat four loaves of bread a day if we want we have freedom dammit Well it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 12:05 AM
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0, 22.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 08:31 PM
2

No need to drink heavily, 1-2 beers will already do wonders for your social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 11:08 PM
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women put this weird over emphasis on a dudes personality. Men dont really give a shit cuz too busy focusing on her pussy, ass and tits. If I was a space alien looking at this from the outside I'd say the men are the weird ones here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 04:30 PM
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I have no idea, honestly. 1/10 was just the safest bet - I'm just saying someone out there will date you. And I'm not saying that you have no right to complain about being alone unless you date someone you don't like - but so do women, which is my entire point. I'd reckon that girl is more likely to be an outlier than not. Or maybe those men aren't as normal as you think under closer inspection.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 11:51 PM
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If I stop teens from selling drugs in the skatepark and they start to sell drugs at school I haven't solved anything. You have. You've increased the opportunity cost; since the skatepark was their first choice and you've taken it away, there'll be fewer dealers willing to sell now. Likewise, once you take away the easiest way to rape (dark alleys), rapes will still occur, but they will be more difficult to execute and get away with. Score 1 for Team Anti-Rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 03:20 PM
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there's someone out there for everyone Well there is. Not necessarily someone good, but if you get rid of your standards entirely, you won't stay single. I'm not even saying that that's what FAs should do; I don't think they'd be happy entering into a relationship with someone they don't like at all. But saying "women are just spoiled if they reject 6s, but men are truly alone if they reject 3s" seems like an arbitrary distinction to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 03:17 PM
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So the advice worked, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 03:08 PM
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Becoming a hermit to avoid rape is not a reasonable tradeoff. Avoiding dark alleys is. Wouldn't you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 10:34 AM
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It's an exaggeration, obviously. It doesn't have to be 1 in 3.5B, it could be 1 in 1000 and it would still prove my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 12:26 AM
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Easy, a woman has always someone interested in her, no matter how ugly, fat or whatever. And who says this isn't true for men? Do you really think there are men out there who would get rejected by all the 3.5 billion women in the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 09:48 PM
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I highly doubt it. Why do you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 07:59 PM
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"FA" women are simply picky and alone because they cannot get the guy they want And the same is true for men. I'm sure most FAs wouldn't get rejected by 1s and 2s, yet here they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 05:52 PM
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Attractive people are more intelligent (statistically) and intelligent people are nicer because they are more likely to have read an ethics textbook. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 08:59 AM
1

A much larger share of GDP is spent on non-necessities today than back then, and it has been a growing trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 11:51 PM
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3) Don't be desperate This advice seems to be on the level of "just b yourself". It literally says "if you want something, stop wanting it and then you'll get it".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 09:18 AM
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Hillary was pretty cute in the 90s. I probably would, back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 11:03 PM
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If your goal is to get laid with 1 woman that night, and you have the time and the balls to approach 50 women a night, then your odds are 100%. Sounds pretty good to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 11:06 AM
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San Andreas, FF7, etc, weren't exactly geared towards women. Yeah, those video games were mostly marketed to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 10:24 AM
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It's believed by a lot of men, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 10:17 AM
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Fair enough. This is actual scientific evidence toward that position, something I rarely see in these discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 03:54 PM
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Wouldn't it be much more plausible to reverse the causal arrow and claim that women who are bad at lasting relationships are more likely to be promiscuous? e.g. a hot woman who has a bad personality will initiate many relationships but will get dumped quickly because the men can't stand her once they get to know her; meanwhile a hot woman with a good personality will marry her first boyfriend because he will be glad to spend the rest of his life with her. The n-count becomes ultimately different…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 01:44 PM
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Everyone is predisposed to stereotype, though perhaps not to the same degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 01:27 AM
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Who says she can't be responsible for her actions? You're fighting strawmen here, OP.
/r/MensRights11/03/16 12:00 AM
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It's a conceptual metaphor (sᴇx ɪs ᴡᴀʀ). Men use it because it is a neat way to describe their experiences, because it has some things in common with violence, (e.g. 'slaying' a girl is a vigorous, satisfying activity and also considered an achievement) but not all (e.g. it does not involve someone dying).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 12:52 AM
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Metaphors are disrespectful?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 12:45 AM
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It's very easy to convince yourself you're right when nothing can ever prove you wrong. You remind me of people who brag about knowing "what kind of a person somebody is within 5 minutes of meeting them".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 01:00 PM
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Bonus if you can point out the Terpers while laughing. Can you? I mean verifiably, not "that guy's probably a terper xD".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 06:55 PM
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Wine is a big scam, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 09:47 AM
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OP: what kind of evidence would change your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 10:19 PM
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And they were right about him, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 01:58 PM
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Hardly a code of honor if it's not something you're tempted to doing. It's like giving up smoking for Lent if you're not a smoker.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:54 PM
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Digibro described it pretty well: There seems to be a trend in light novels lately of filling the main character’s harem with girls who would otherwise be the strongest characters in the story, if not for the main guy. The wish fulfillment aspect of this is obvious–you get to date all of the hottest, coolest, most powerful women around, while still outdoing all of them and keeping your position as an alpha dude. At the end of the day, when the chips are down, you get to swoop in and save the gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 12:29 PM
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The dominant female not so much.. it's more niche. Depends on what you mean by dominant. If you mean plays a dominant role in a romantic relationship, then maybe not so much. But if it's an anime about action, then almost always at least one of the prominent robot pilots/demon hunters/etc. will be a young female. By a very superficial definition of "strong female character" (girls can wield swords too, you know!), they are very far from uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 12:24 PM
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My point is that you yourself could synthesize a TRP theory 2.0 by taking in the objections and throwing away the bad and not the good. But instead you're being intellectually lazy and sticking to 1.0 because "it works". This kind of attitude may lead you to miss out on opportunities and encounter hazards you otherwise wouldn't, in dating or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 12:31 AM
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Imagine a balance scale. On the one side: a collection of ideas that helped me get my prick sucked. On the other side: OP's philosophical objections, your arguments, whatever. And you're saying that for you, the former side outweighs the latter? You're pretty weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 11:49 PM
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I wouldn't care at all. I think it would be a bigger problem for her and the clone, since the latter would likely want a share of the resources as well as family visitation rights. But if we could get her to never see us again, that would be swell.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 10:27 PM
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I disagree with the idea that you need to provide an alternative in order to be able to claim that something is wrong. Now that you know that TRP's beliefs are true, but not justified (that is, if you agree with OP's objections - if you don't, then there's nothing to discuss here), you no longer have an excuse to be complacent about it. Continuing to go to a faith healer to treat your headaches has the repercussions of potential suboptimality (there may be cheaper and more effective treatments t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 10:21 PM
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The OP believes they are not consistent and based on very biased observations.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 09:11 AM
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Yes, other groups do it too. Doesn't make it good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 11:04 PM
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The placebo effect. It sounds like a huge cliche, but it's not less likely than the alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 10:45 PM
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It's not precise, it's just a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 04:53 PM
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Probably. Doesn't mean it's not a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 09:16 AM
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But that's not enough to say that anime influences how people look on relationshits. I mean you basically just refined my point. Sure, there are all kinds of weirdos who watch anime, but there are weirdos everywhere. Even in feminism, lol. This doesn't mean that the anime is the reason for MGTOW. I bet most MGTOWs don't even watch anime. I never said any of those things, this thread just got carried away :D If 1/3 of anime titles are about romance, this does not necessarily mean 1/3 of populatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 01:34 PM
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A huge fucking ton of anime gets made. Only some romance. True, it's a minority. But it's a substantial one. Citation needed I already told you, but I'll repeat myself: This list sorts romance anime by popularity, i.e. by their position on this list. 31 of them belong to the top 100, with the last one being Welcome to the NHK. You can verify it for yourself. It ain't almost absent. Plenty of people watch it. So you're admitting that There are only so few animes that have romance in them. isn't t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 01:04 PM
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I bet you can also filter by 'hentai' or 'yaoi' to prove that 1/3rd of top 100 anime is hentai or yaoi. The most popular hentai and yaoi title (coincidentally the same one) is #1023. Try again. Also, the Romance tag is present only in titles in which romance is prominent as a story element, and not in every title that has a couple in it. Steins;Gate, for example, does not have this tag. My point was that an anime focused solely on romance would be dull and boring to watch. That's how you feel, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 12:34 PM
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Incels lack dating experience in early life and this is just a symptom of a larger issue where they never learnt to socialise with others correctly My platonic socializing skills (with men or women) are miles better than my flirting ability. Take that as you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 12:03 PM
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If most of the people who watch anime said they mostly watch romance, sure. If most popular anime with most google searches and popularity polls is about romance, sure. If people talk about romance anime and get the most likes/upvotes, sure. You need all that just to cancel out one person's experience? Wow. In any case, I've shown you that approximately a third of the top 100 anime are romance-oriented. That's not a majority (and I never said it was), but it's a very substantial minority. I have…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 11:28 AM
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We should look at what an average viewer would see. I agree. I've edited my previous comment before you replied, please see the edit. And that's where my anecdotal evidence comes in. So if someone told you that most of the titles they've seen were romance-oriented and very few of them had action/fantastical elements, would it cancel out your anecdotal evidence? Also, what happened to your scientific approach? Anecdotal evidence is not very scientific. Besides, every author has their own view of …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 11:11 AM
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First of all, you made an absolute claim (there are few romance anime as opposed to there are few romance anime relative to all of them). 1,400+ titles is still a whole lot, even if it's only 1%. I can't find the global stats for how many anime there are at all (the newest one has the ID of something like 32,000+, but that is including things like music videos and very obscure/throwaway titles). If you want to provide a scientifically valid confirmation of your assertion, be my guest. EDIT: How …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 10:51 AM
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I did, I think it argues against your assertion pretty well. Note that it's sorted by popularity and many of the ones on page 1 are very popular titles. What's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 09:37 AM
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Every betas dream is to be as beta as they are I don't think that's necessarily part of the dream, it's just that if the character isn't beta it's hard to self-insert into him. On another note, it should be noted that those protagonists, while generally gentle-faced and effeminate, are still almost always good-looking young men. So there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 09:32 AM
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There are only so few animes that have romance in them. Well that's just plain wrong. Here, check these out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 09:28 AM
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You don't need to improve yourself. Are you sure you heard people phrase it exactly like that? Not "don't change" or "fitness/fashion/etc. isn't important" but "don't improve"? Because that sounds like the most counterintuitive-sounding advice I've ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 12:58 AM
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Sorry, I guess I was sleepy last night.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 11:17 AM
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...wrong reply?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 01:00 AM
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Yeah, that's one of my problems with BP. It seems to imply that having high aspirations when it comes to sex/relationships is stupid, even if you're willing to work for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 11:02 PM
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The purpose of the "if he's mean to you means he likes you" narrative is to is to: Diffuse tension (present conflict as endearing as opposed to threatening) Reverse psychology (← verb) children into not fighting ("I don't want people to think I like her, so I better stop picking on her!"). I've heard this saying in a gender-neutral way, btw, and teachers stopped using it after age 11. Interesting hypothesis, but I see no evidence that it holds any influence beyond that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 11:42 AM
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I am successful in many ways on paper; smart, funny, charismatic... Says who?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 11:32 AM
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So, um, TV isn't real? I've heard this argument a lot. What, so you think the dragons on Game of Thrones are real, too? xD Obviously not everything on TV is real, but not everything there is fake, either. For example, someone from an unloving home might get the message from television that actually, parents loving their children is the norm - and it's a true message. Likewise, a shy 15-year-old would be a fool to think that harem anime reflects reality and that all the girls secretly want to jum…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 11:31 AM
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I just used it as an example because it struck me as particularly ridiculous. I don't really consider any of those other things deceptions, either; maybe only in extreme cases. In any case, I've given you examples of ways women can get sex through deception that many people would consider immoral, so your original assertion is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 08:46 PM
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It's immoral for both, however the things you described don't qualify as deception. There have already been things described ITT that are actual deceptions that could be used by women (perhaps more often than men) in order to get sex or relationships. They include lying about STDs, single motherhood etc. In those cases, yes, it is immoral. But not with hair dye.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 01:48 PM
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Fine. Would any hypothetical man get upset when he finds out the redhead he slept with is actually a blonde?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 11:35 AM
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there's a reason why there's no such thing as a BBM fetish Yeah, that reason being that it's called "BHM".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 11:30 AM
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What was your point, then? Would you ever not sleep with a girl if you found out her hair color isn't natural? Would you ever feel taken advantage of if you found out in the morning? If not, then it's not much of a deception, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 11:22 AM
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However, it's quite common for a woman to dye her hair from original colouring, wear push-up bras, fake tan, make-up (including contouring that can alter the appearance of the face etc. Then you have coloured contact lenses, butt-lifting underwear (or butt and/or boob implants/inserts in the underwear). If these things are deception, then do you want women to stop doing these things? Do other men? If not, then does that mean that most men want to be deceived?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 10:02 AM
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You can also tell by reading people and the vibes they give you. Can you actually confirm that this works? I've seen several individuals who said they could "read people" and all they did was horoscope-level guesswork.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 09:02 AM
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I'm sure such a tax would be seen as ridiculous even if it were gender neutral. No father or husband would want such a drain on family resources, sexism notwithstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 08:58 AM
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The truth about those things will eventually come out in virtually all cases. On the other hand, you can get old and die and never find out your wife was a slut in her youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 08:50 AM
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Yes, we do. Empty implied threats are, among other things, illegal, and for good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 07:13 AM
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Do you understand what an implied threat is?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 10:34 PM
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Maybe. So what? It's still immoral to take advantage of these people and cause them harm for your own gain. You might as well tell everyone who gets mugged that it's their own fault for being too physically weak to fight off the attackers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 12:24 PM
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An empty threat is still a threat. Just because the danger wasn't real in the end doesn't mean that what was done was a free decision. Again, what if he pointed an empty gun at her and said "have sex with me or I'll shoot"? I mean, if she said no then he wouldn't have shot her, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 12:22 PM
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So you wouldn't help a fellow citizens because there are cops for that? The man has zero responsibility with regards to anyone else but himself. The man is not responsible not to threaten people? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 01:54 PM
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I'm not 100% sure. I guess if a girl is oblivious to the implied threat and has sex with him out of her own volition, then I would say it's not rape, same if she jumped on a would-be rapist's dick in a dark alley. But if the reason she has sex with him is "the implication" and he consciously set it up that way, then yes, I would say it's rape. I know this would be almost impossible to prove in a court of law and I'm not pushing for the criminalization of boat sex. But if we could prove beyond do…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 01:11 PM
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Well we do have to look after our fellow citizens, don't we? In any case, Sardonis' comment was shifting attention to an irrelevant issue. The question was: is using "the implication" rape or comparable to rape? His answer, however, mostly said "well it's unwise for women to get on boats anyway", which may very well be true, but it doesn't answer the question at all. It sounds like victim blaming because it diverts attention away from the man's responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 11:46 AM
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Maybe. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 11:38 AM
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He implies it. I'm not saying any man who happens to try and have sex with a woman while on a boat is guilty of this, but this guy's intentions clearly aren't pure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 01:33 AM
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You didn't exactly address my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 11:26 PM
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It's an implied threat. If someone is consciously doing this then I consider it immoral. Just because it's an empty threat doesn't mean it's not a threat; it's still illegal to say "I'm going to shoot you with the gun in my pocket" if you don't actually have a gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 11:17 PM
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Well it is, kind of. Yeah, it's a careless thing to do, but it doesn't excuse him at all if he actually rapes her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 11:14 PM
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My view is: The only thing that comprises "force" is a man's use of physical violence or restraint, or the real threat of using physical violence, restraint or coercion, to compel a woman to do or not do something. A lot of cults don't employ these tactics, and yet their members struggle to escape them because of pure psychological manipulation. Do you think there's a meaningful difference between that and "force"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 11:10 PM
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Not necessarily. This one just points out that the overlaps allegedly exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 10:34 PM
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That's hardly a satisfactory answer, even if it really is the only explanation you can come up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 09:29 AM
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The divorces are mostly from non-first marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 09:07 AM
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There are other possible reasons for cheating. 48% of men rated emotional dissatisfaction as the primary reason they cheated. So much for the myth that, for men, cheating is all about sex: Only 8 percent of men said that sexual dissatisfaction was the main factor in their infidelity. "Our culture tells us that all men need to be happy is sex," Neuman says. "But men are emotionally-driven beings too. They want their wives to show them that they're appreciated, and they want women to understand ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 09:02 AM
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Is there any evidence that the Coolidge effect is present in humans?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 07:44 PM
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When you have no other information - yes, it's a good method. I can infer that William Shakespeare has contributed more than his neighbor Peter the Peasant simply by knowing that one is remembered and the other forgotten. If we don't have any other information about them, then that's a fair enough evaluation. But you do have plenty of other information about them, very conveniently provided in the links. You can no longer hide behind your ignorance when you have knowledge just in reach; the fair…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 10:08 PM
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muh Idiocracy! Global IQ rates are rising with each generation. Look up the Flynn effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 09:30 PM
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That doesn't mean they weren't important. Why are you using fame as the measuring stick for contribution?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 09:29 PM
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Maybe. But speaking specifically about chores: they're just not as important. I think it feels much more demeaning to be talked down to about your passion or career than about housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 09:07 AM
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I think it's because men don't care, especially when it comes to things like chores. I did see people on /r/MensRights complain (perhaps justifiably) about being assumed not to be good fathers, though, so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 09:21 PM
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But here's the key: When a Scientologist (or Muslim, or Christian, or yoga enthusiast) says it works for them, this is what they're talking about. The mythology isn't important -- if these rituals have saved your life and later on a teacher says, "Yeah, this technique works because of the ancient thetans that live in your asshole," you're going to shrug and say, "Sure, sounds good." If you tell the lady in yoga class that the reason she feels better afterward is because negative spiritual energi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 11:03 PM
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You're the one that made the point about 21st century males inheriting millennia of male privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 11:31 AM
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Bet you're so entitled from thousands of years of affirmative action for men in the workplace and study that you just can't imagine it. I fail to realize how that affirmative action transfers to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 09:18 AM
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I don't think I've ever been made fun of for this by other people. That doesn't make the fomo any lesser, those.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 05:59 PM
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It's pretty much value signaling. From I Can Tolerate Anything Except the Outgroup: You can talk all you want about Islamophobia, but my friend’s “intelligent, reasoned, and thoughtful people” – her name for the Blue Tribe – can’t get together enough energy to really hate Osama, let alone Muslims in general. We understand that what he did was bad, but it didn’t anger us personally. When he died, we were able to very rationally apply our better nature and our Far Mode beliefs about how it’s never…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 10:59 PM
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Of course not. Yuri is the purest form of love and requires a certain level of sophistication to appreciate, you pleb.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 10:48 PM
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I'm not saying it never happens, but don't you think it's unfair to assume that someone holds their views for reason other than because they find them to be true?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 10:46 PM
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Typical attempt at trying to discredit your opponent by saying they have ulterior motives. Nothing new or particular to feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 08:50 PM
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To make matters worse, our culture is obsessed with materialism and sex. It's fucking shoved down our throats nonstop. I don't disagree about the sex, but materialism? Everyone keeps trying to prove how deep and spiritual they are all the time, and how they try to look beneath the surface. Fat acceptance movements weren't mainstream 50 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 01:01 AM
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Well, yours is a valid philosophical position, shared by some (though not all) scholars. I don't think I'll be able to argue against it in the comment section. Keep in mind, though, that not everyone agrees that there's no difference between a real and illusory experience if they both feel identical. That might explain why some people here disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 12:59 AM
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Fair enough, then. I myself would rather know the truth. And since I try to follow the Golden Rule, I'd tell the truth in this situation. Would you really subject yourself to live in an illusory relationship, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 12:08 AM
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How about a reverse situation, OP? Your SO confesses to having cheated on you. You're obviously upset, but she gives you a choice: You can take the blue pill and get short-term amnesia. You forget everything she ever told you about the affair and continue your relationship, oblivious. Or you can take the red pill, which in this situation is just a sugar pill which doesn't do anything. You deal with the harsh truth and decide what to do next with your relationship and your life. Which one do you …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 11:44 PM
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I'm nitpicking your examples and not your main point here, of course, but saying The clergy historically took vows of celibacy, but the mean of Christianity was so effective at adapting that it spread to a significant portion of the population in spite of that. is meaningless because the vows could have done nothing to prevent the spread of this religion. If it was done in the early church, you may have had a point, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 07:54 PM
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Clerical celibacy was established long after Christianity became mainstream, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 05:03 PM
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How do you know RP field reports aren't outliers?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 12:42 PM
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Anecdotes are only valid when they confirm RP beliefs, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 11:51 AM
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Fair enough. I'm just saying that when you talk about it as an abstract concept (as opposed to particular individuals), you risk stereotyping the 'innocent' into it. Have you read Radicalizing the Romanceless, btw? It's pretty long, but it's an eye-opening piece of PPD canon, in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 12:49 AM
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So a euphemism? I thought the term meant words that seem important but are actually hollow and contribute little meaning, buzzwords. But it looks like the conventional definition includes yours as well, kind of.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 12:46 AM
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In the context of this comment, how do you define "weasel word"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 12:33 AM
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Okay, always was a hyperbole. Let me rephrase: do you really think that mocking the Nice Guy stereotype on the internet does not substantially hurt the self-esteem of shy, mellow young men who are just confused about why they can't find romance?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 12:31 AM
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go to bed Mandark
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 09:39 PM
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Kindness is the bottom-of-the-barrel essential stuff you need to just be a good human, and even though being kind is of paramount importance it still does not replace physical or emotional attraction in a relationship. What about men who don't even do that bare minimum essential stuff and still are successful at finding sex or relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 09:33 PM
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And you think this distinction is always applied with fairness and rigor? Like, no "awkward but ultimately innocuous" man ever gets confused for a Nice Guy©℗®℠™?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 09:28 PM
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I see. That answers my question, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:28 PM
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If there was no taboo about it, and it wasn't illegal, then there wouldn't be a counter-incentive to answer this question and do it honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 05:09 PM
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How about certain types of placebos? I'm just asking you to answer a hypothetical question. Like if I asked you "if aliens came to Earth an invited you to fly away in their spaceship, would you do it?" Sure, aliens aren't coming to earth in the near future as far as we know, but your answer may reveal something about your principles or priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 04:58 PM
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I don't think I would agree that all noble lies have to be believed by the majority. This is beside the point, though. What I'm asking is: if a sort of noble lie was found on TRP (that somehow "works" despite being only believed by a minority), would it be dismissed?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 01:25 AM
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If you don't value that principle when push comes to shove, I'm afraid you don't really value it at all. Which is fine, but don't pay it lip service then.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 10:55 PM
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See the example with Voltaire above. I'm not saying that belief in God is false, but if it was, some would argue that it is beneficial for society and should be maintained.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 10:53 PM
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That's good. But what if gaining more knowledge makes them not work. Like, let's say someone on TRP makes a post in which he recommends users to drink a herbal remedy - wormwood and pomegranate peel tea - that supposedly helps excrete male pheromones that attract the ladies. Users try it and report positive results. Later, you do some research find out that the tea does no such thing and all of it was just a placebo effect. The tea will stop working if you tell them. Would you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 10:46 PM
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Irrational =/= arational. I'm not saying (in this post) that particular TRP ideas are false, but rather asking, if they were false but still "worked", would they get rid of them or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 10:18 PM
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Spiders aren't gross you faggot.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 09:17 PM
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No more need for due process and a fair trial, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 07:39 PM
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I support Trump because he is everything your typical bluepiller/feminist hates and fears, and it is high time someone made you all miserable as possible You know who else wouldn't like SJWs? The enemy of your enemy is not your friend, OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 07:36 PM
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You can apply this thinking to any fringe belief out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 06:59 PM
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You're really moving your goalposts here. Also you're ignoring everything from that time which was popular but is now forgotten. You're only basing your opinion on what was is remembered, which is not a fair representation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 11:23 AM
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Cliberal in favor of basic income? That's to replace welfare and state programs, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 11:17 AM
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Okay, but what if it's in an empty street in a bad part of town and I just happen to do the collecting there for arbitrary or unrelated reasons? If someone feels threatened by the circumstances (of which I had no intention of them being), is it my responsibility to make sure they don't feel that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 01:09 AM
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I think that's unduly high responsibility if you have no intention to coerce anyone into sex. It's like if I am a tall bodybuilder with scars on my face and I collect money for charity and someone turns out to have given me their money because they were scared of me. Is it my responsibility to make sure they feel comfortable giving me money? Am I a thief?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 12:21 AM
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See, this is where I have an issue. If you're a big guy (uuuu) you're much more likely to "implicitly threaten" a woman in a situation like this than if you're a skinny dweeb, even if your behavior is exactly the same. This is like being a creep all over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 12:11 AM
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That's an argument I hear a lot from Trump supporters. "Trump literally took a shit into his hand and threw it into other candidates because he doesn't give a fuck! Now that's a candidate who has guts, unlike those other PC cucks with their "civility" and "intellectual integrity"! Best candidate ever!"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 08:53 AM
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They're actually pretty similar when it comes to time and effort spent per capita, but that's beside the point. The point is that they both address problems that are not the Biggest Problem in the World. So are they both the result of misplaced priorities?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 08:32 AM
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Have you read the rest of that sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 12:24 AM
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Petitioning a company to remove something isn't, in my opinion, censorship. It's an attempt to obstruct the reader from reaching the text. Functionally, how is it not censorship?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 11:27 PM
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There are bigger problems in this world than feminists trying to remove books from Amazon. So why are you engaging them? Are your priorities in place?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 11:22 PM
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there is something about hard cover books I can't explain, it's a feeling Yeah, it's status quo bias and nostalgia.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 10:58 PM
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1) Females are almost always lacking in morality and generally inferior to men. 2) Anything a modern, slightly left leaning person would interpret as "evil" is probably in fact, morally advisible/good. Even if true, those premises are extremely intellectually lazy and would not make for a good argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 08:39 PM
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The story never said he loved Abigail back. It's safe to assume that he did, otherwise there's not really a moral dilemma here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 08:21 PM
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Insufficient data for meaningful answer. I mean, I understand this is supposed to be an abstract fable that is easy to understand and retell, but this is at a price of omitting nuanced circumstances that could justify or condemn these characters. Why can't they build a new bridge or boats? Is it easy for Sinbad to swim across the river or does it take a lot of time and resources? Exactly what kind of relationship do Tom and Abigale have? Can they communicate across the river? Won't the free mark…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 08:18 PM
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Pearl is best gem
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 11:05 AM
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If advertising depicting women as only dumb or pretty in the 1950s was sexist (which I do believe it was) It's very commendable that you are consistent on this. I'm just wondering if the 100+ people who upvoted you are as well. This sub mocks feminists overreacting to media a lot, often due to reasons analogous to those in the article.
/r/MensRights27/01/16 10:35 PM
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Do you apply the same logic to media that supposedly demeans women?
/r/MensRights27/01/16 09:07 PM
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Maybe if instead of getting triggered by particular keywords you read the conversation in context, you would understand that it applies "just be nice" to men who are already fit, intelligent, etc. and not that it's the only thing you need.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 04:55 PM
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If no one is being scammed financially or emotionally nw, no damage is being done No, it only means that nobody is benefiting from the damage. If it's bullshit, you still believe it. Imagine everyone in Scientology who exploits its members for personal benefit left, leaving only the "true believers". If, afterwards, your friend wanted to join the CoS, would you approve?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 03:43 PM
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Then you shouldn't have thrown red herring at them. OP says "TRP is the dysfunctional remains of a scam". You say "prove that TRP is currently a scam". Why? That has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 03:17 PM
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The argument here is that TRP works based on a memeplex evolved from PUA theory which was supposedly created with ulterior motives. Imagine one guy creates a religious cult. People join in because of its enticing promises, as well as scare/shame tactics aimed at doubters. The cult grows in numbers, but only the founder knows for sure that it's all made up bullshit and he's getting tons of status and money from it. Then the founder dies. Nobody else has any ulterior motives to stay in the cult, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 02:14 PM
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Your flair?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 12:31 PM
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Women don't want to fix anything. Common wisdom says otherwise, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 10:18 AM
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Because it's a movie and movies are about excitement and adventure. Rarely do you see a character, male or female, pick a stable life over following their dreams. Not saying it has nothing to do with real life male-female relations, but that's not why they put it there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 10:15 AM
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I can play Stepmania on Easy pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 08:56 PM
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I don't know if I'd endorse that statement. I'm just saying it's not inconsistent to believe that women are a privileged class while also not wanting to become one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 08:55 PM
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When your identity is fundamentally rooted in your gender psychology, it's hard to say if you would give it away for something you are not intimately familiar with. It's like asking if I would like to be reborn as a sentient space cube. Also, maybe women's lives are still harder despite having social advantages for biological reasons, like menstruation and childbirth and whatnot. Stephen Hawking is one of the most revered people alive. Would I like to be Stephen Hawking? I'd have to really think…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 09:37 AM
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Fucking Americans, amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 09:23 AM
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Sounds like a travesty of justice to me. But hey, it protects THE CHILDREN so it's okay. I think this is more the fault of "family values" groups than feminism, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 10:39 PM
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The reasons for scorn are different, but I think many of the individuals are the same (perhaps on different stages of their life).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 10:55 PM
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The f stands for 'fam'. It started as a workaround after 4chan recently started filtering the words 'smh', 'tbh' and 'fam' as a measure against shitposting. 'Cuck' was also filtered out, but recently came back (unfortunately, imo).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 04:50 PM
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It seems that there is a lot of overlap.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 10:50 AM
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The only thing that matters in a standard of proof such as what you're talking about is whether it can prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt. If you want to talk about deterrence, you can talk about increasing punishments or providing more resources for investigation. But the ideal standard of proof is the one that convicts 0% of the innocent and 100% of the guilty (in that order of priority), not one that scares them away.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 10:40 AM
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Is this fair judgment based on a universal standard of conduct, or not? It is mostly fair because it takes into account objective and clearly recognizable circumstances. Except for one thing: If I'm doing a lab work with a classmate I'm not into If it depends on your own being attracted to the classmate, then it's no longer something they can control. In other words, unless you would react the exact same to a classmate you were into, you can't blame only his behavior here. I don't see how people…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 08:52 AM
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I don't think I disagree with your general point, but I wouldn't just drop the n-count issue like that. So we don't really know how many sexual partners a woman has on average. Could it be 10,000,000? It's not physically impossible to have had ten million sexual partners, but I would bet a lot of money that that is not the case for the average woman. Could it be 1,000,000? Again, I'm certain that it isn't, and I think you are as well. Could it be 100,000? And so on. Even if we assume that the st…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 10:32 PM
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To defeat the Cyberdemon, shoot at it until it dies. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 05:13 PM
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There's plenty of romance fiction directed at men, and it sells. You're just looking in the wrong places. http://myanimelist.net/anime/genre/35
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 05:04 PM
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Stephen Fry recently married a 27-year-old man (certainly no teenager), himself being 30 years older than him. People still thought it was creepy. I guess people just don't like large age gap relationships and tend to blame the older party more, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 09:36 AM
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The point is that fact (?) you've thrown there is completely irrelevant. "I don't think imprisoning people for drugs is beneficial" "Yeah, well the rest of the country doesn't agree with you, bro" So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 09:23 AM
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You're a fringe minority. Doesn't make him wrong, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 12:16 AM
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You don't have to. If this is your reason for not dating him, it's your right.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 01:01 PM
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You can typically read people to know if they're guilty or not. How?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 01:00 PM
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"rape survivors are damaged goods and no man in his right mind would want to date one" Well, is that true to any extent or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 09:27 PM
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Don't make me tip it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 11:40 PM
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If two groups have (arguably) the same problem that could be solved with (again, arguably) the same solution, wouldn't focusing on only one of the groups be at least apparently unfair? Every murder is a tragedy, and murders in gated communities are no exception. But wouldn’t it reveal a lot about who mattered in a society if “end murder in gated communities” was how they framed their anti-murder initiatives? (quote stolen and taken out of context from here)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 05:35 PM
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That person is also starving. Now that's just something you added to the analogy. Consider this instead: One person has diabetes. Another person has asthma and also an infinite bag full of insulin medication (no, they can't sell it). The first person says "you're so much luckier than me because at least you have that bag". Assuming diabetes and asthma are equally bad diseases, would you say the first person is right in saying this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 05:24 PM
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basically it's making the selling of sex (hookers who are mostly women) Not anymore! (apparently) Also, the "Nordic model" is a term that refers to the combination of a large welfare state with a relatively unrestricted market economy that is prevalent in Scandinavia. Nothing to do with prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 08:08 PM
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Oh well, I have to treat your two-person survey with the same skepticism as the entire field of anthropology. But you didn't dispute it on the basis of methodology. You disputed it on the basis of conclusions. I treat studies that go against the scientific consensus with skepticism because there is so much literature that goes against them. Is there really a scientific consensus that claims that men certainly don't prioritize those 11 things over good looks? Honest question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 06:15 PM
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Yes, that's how it works. If you mean that such bias is universal then yes, I unfortunately must agree. But the truly rational thing to do would be to treat all scientific studies with the same amount of skepticism regardless of whether they confirm or deny what you believe. Otherwise you just end up with isolated demands for rigor.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 02:41 PM
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The fact that it contradicts my previously held beliefs really calls into question the reliability of these statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 08:50 PM
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You don't think there's a downside to being treated like a princess all the time? P.S. a rising tide raises all boats :^)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 11:15 PM
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If you want to find out who has power, look at who you're not allowed to criticize. Is society run by amputees with Down syndrome?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 11:11 PM
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If I remember the story correctly he did end up with her. I'm curious if that's how it ended. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 12:01 AM
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Half of these photos are shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 11:47 PM
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It's hard to hypothesize when I've never been in such a situation, but I'd wager that while it wouldn't guarantee her success, it would improve her chances to date me, if only marginally.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 11:42 PM
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So the right thing to do is for men to put themselves on the line for women and get absolutely nothing out of it? If you are literally Superman? Yes, although no more for women than for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 11:30 PM
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It's just a simple metaphor. It doesn't have to extend anywhere outside of the Morpheus scene in order to "work". P.S. There are actually four Matrix movies. The best one is always forgotten, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 11:22 PM
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Do you think women and men lie about their sexual history for the EXACT same reasons? Maybe, maybe not, maybe sometimes, or maybe the differences aren't important. Either way, it opens up the door to discussion on a relevant topic. Ask yourself: if you believed women do something bad but then someone presented you with a convincing argument that men do it as well and in the same context, wouldn't you be glad they brought it up? Wouldn't you have an unfair characterization of women if they didn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 11:19 PM
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a label that is given to men who act a certain way (nice guys)? That's exactly what it is, a label. On the internet, it is usually given based on a superficial observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 10:37 PM
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Yes, but (in TBP's view) they are still delusional. Perhaps not in the psychiatric sense, but they don't see reality for what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 10:30 PM
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I have heard whispers that such a sub is in development and recruiting to develop it. from what i have heard they are pulling from the most reasonable of both the bp and rp camps. Are you talking about /r/PunchingMorpheus? I like that sub's purpose, but it's kind of dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 10:27 PM
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You don't see the similarity between that and what you're doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 10:19 PM
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TRPers are, as I've been led to believe, alpha masters of industry, game and the universe. This is not what TBP believes, though. Your hyperbole illustrates this very well: in TBP's view, redpillers are like the asylum inmate who thinks he is Napoleon. Wouldn't making fun of him be punching down?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 10:13 PM
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"haha you are a fat, unkempt guy who lives with his mom and still have a smug superiority complex that manifests itself into heavy handed internet sexism" Is that still "attacking a more powerful group", though?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 10:08 PM
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Their sexual entitlement means that they view themselves as privileged and that they are not being rewarded for their privilege, so they are also fair game Key phrase "view themselves". Sure, they may think of themselves that way (although this is also disputable) but are they and TRP actual powerful groups?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 01:47 PM
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Can you cite a source for your claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 09:58 AM
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I meant that she doesn't feel bad about it, at least not as much as if she got explicitly rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:51 PM
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1 in 5 Proof? Seems like that one discredited statistic. Honestly, I have no problem with alleged victims being believed by their friends and family, I'd almost certainly do it. It's another thing when courts and the media do it and destroy some potentially innocent life in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 11:31 PM
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I once got a call from a third party representative of CSC after I had started filling out a CV on a database website. I didn't even finish filling it out, I just wrote about the languages I spoke and one of them was very much in demand. I didn't have any job experience. I didn't get the job, but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 08:04 AM
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I mean, how did I know the pawn store owner wasn't lying. I don't follow you. How might he be lying in such a situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 01:16 AM
1

Maybe Engineering really does just attract more late bloomers than other majors. Could happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 01:13 AM
4

I mean, I could have had someone hide items for attention. Hell, I could have been pissed at someone and just blamed them for it. Maybe I just wanted some more time off of work. Could you? I mean, realistically? Staging a robbery would require a lot of work and you could get caught in the act - you may need an accomplice who would risk committing a felony etc. It would also be relatively easy for the accused to prove that they didn't get any extra source of income recently, clearing their name. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 12:59 AM
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A woman's body is her property, she should protect it whenever reasonable. It has nothing to do with "objectification", it's just an illustrative analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 12:46 AM
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Surely that's not the case for women who need to be explicitly told "never ask him out".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 12:34 AM
2

I agree that those other reasons could also be true. It's just weird that I've never heard anyone suggest my explanation. At the end of the day, her big prize is a man who was too much of a pussy to approach her first. Or maybe he didn't notice her, or got the wrong impression that she wasn't an interested single heterosexual woman. Or maybe he really was to cowardly, but it would have been worth it to date him anyway. Wouldn't you agree that there might have been many a happy romantic encounter…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 12:34 AM
1

Good. I guess we're on the same page then.
/r/MensRights09/12/15 10:57 AM
1

What if a private group does this? Just stand on the street and give away feminist books to teenagers. Do you think that should be illegal?
/r/MensRights08/12/15 03:24 PM
2

Won't somebody think of the children? These are 16-year-olds we are talking about here. They are allowed to vote in elections in certain countries. I do agree that they shouldn't use the public school funds for this. But if they do it on their own? Free speech applies, even if you target the underage.
/r/MensRights08/12/15 09:32 AM
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I'm not American, but sure. What's the harm? That they are going to read it and consider Mormonism? You're overestimating the intellectual and spiritual curiosity of students.
/r/MensRights08/12/15 08:27 AM
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I'm saying that private entities shouldn't be using public resources to sell their ideology. If they do it 100% on their own time, on their own dime, and it's 100% voluntary, then that's their business, but if the school system gets used? Nope. Pay your own way, if you want to proselytize. Ok you know what? I agree with all that. They should use their own resources. Still, I don't see how it violates the boys' right to "say no to feminism".
/r/MensRights08/12/15 08:25 AM
2

What's wrong with having few friends? No friends I'd understand, but is it really considered unattractive to just have a bunch?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 08:21 AM
14

Remember when some edgy tumblrina burned The War Against Boys in her fireplace and everyone called her a Nazi? Good times.
/r/MensRights07/12/15 11:17 PM
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This is no different than the Gideon's using the western school system to disseminate bibles to kids at a set age. I don't see a problem with that, either. If you wouldn't tolerate your most hated ideology getting handed out in a "free book" to school kids, you shouldn't be allowing any other ideology, either. Are you saying that it should be illegal to give ideologically charged books of any kind to teenagers? Because that's what it sounds you are saying. Either that, or that only ideologies ap…
/r/MensRights07/12/15 11:14 PM
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Of course I do. I mean, how could I not? It's all over the place, don't you see it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 10:56 PM
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Boys should have the right to say no to feminism I don't see how that right is getting violated by a free book. I mean, it's a free book. Most of them will probably not read it, because most teenagers either don't read, or have other books lined up. They can easily "say no" by just putting the book away. Or are you arguing that 16-year-old boys have such fragile minds that they should be kept away from "incorrect" ideas? Because that sets a pretty bad precedent. Why not give them "We Should All …
/r/MensRights07/12/15 10:47 PM
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It's not my job to educate you! Sure is Tumblr in here. If you make a controversial point, but then refuse to back it up, then it will be reasonable to assume that you are bluffing. If it were "all over the place", it would be very easy for you to just post an example. I hereby declare that The Red Pill is an ultra-misogynistic organisation whose members staunchly believe that all women are subhuman animals who ought to be bred on farms and kept in chains for the whole of their lives, after whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 10:32 PM
3

Dear me, I can't seem to find anything of what you're describing. Care to point to a particular post?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 10:20 PM
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Some do, though. Why not help them out?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 10:11 PM
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Great, then it should be easy to provide a representative example. I'll wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 10:10 PM
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That is directly opposite to what most Blues tell us - that men are to give slavish respect to women all the time There's hyperbole and then there's this. Show me a bluepill post that tells you to give slavish respect to women all the time (and make sure that the "slavish" part is not just your opinion).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 09:40 PM
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Maybe she's stupid or acts irrationally for some other reason. Maybe she has no evidence for what happened, but she still decided to let the truth be known, at risk of being convicted for libel. Presumption of innocence means also presumption of innocence of the accuser, guys.
/r/MensRights30/11/15 09:48 PM
1

TRP readers will tell you that the advice on the sub is unique (no, it's not common sense, and no) and that it's far closer to optimal than anything else they've heard of or tried. Then there can be a productive discussion about those things. Great! What negative side effects does TRP have that are not based on morality? I've heard exredpillers say it made their relationships and worldview toxic. Why discount morality, though? It's literally the most important thing in the world, by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 09:32 PM
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So does a woman's past matter, or not? Can't have it both ways. Perhaps it matters under some circumstances, and doesn't matter under others due to relevant significant differences between them? Ever think of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 07:42 PM
2

I don't see what's not to understand. "You shouldn't use TRP." "But it helps me get laid!" "Maybe, but it's still bad for reasons X, Y and Z, and therefore not worth it." And the conversation then goes towards discussing the merits of X, Y and Z. It's a good dialectic when redpillers acknowledge it instead of just going "do people hate TRP because they don't want betas to improve their sexual lives????".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 09:18 PM
1

Sure, but are you saying that people who don't like it oughtn't criticise it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 06:14 PM
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Do you understand how metaphors work? The bluepill logic is this: Yes, TRP may "work" sometimes, but it is suboptimal and not unique it has negative side effects. Now you may argue whether 2 and 3 are true, but they are a logical response to "but it works" that TRP rarely acknowledges.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 03:04 PM
1

Imagine your friend complains about dental health problems. Would you recommend him to join the KKK?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 02:53 PM
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Life experience is okay when you have nothing else to go on. It is an otherwise a very imperfect source of information.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 12:27 PM
2

Okay, but most people already agree that there are things too important to compromise on, as well things too trivial not to compromise on. What about the point in between? Are there times when a reasonable person might consider not to compromise, but you would advice them to do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 10:20 PM
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It seems kind of like tautological advice, doesn't it? always compromise, unless you'd rather not
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 10:54 AM
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Are you suggesting we emulate the country that killed Jesus? Come on OP. And no, I'm not really being facetious. What's the point of being strong if you are morally corrupt at that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 11:08 PM
1

Disregarding how meaningless that is to say, it's still a perspective. There's a difference between asking MRAs to change their superficial image from asking them to change their actual beliefs (central or peripheral). You're treating them as part of the same criticism, which is confusing and incoherent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 01:33 PM
1

Here is a video of Dean Esmay supporting Islam and calling anyone who is upset about the Paris attacks "Islamophobic": Clearly, Dean has no testosterone to support the Western world either. He just pushes the weak (cucked) liberal line. I like how you just snuck your own political affiliation in there as if it was one of those other things. "Look at how fat and hairy Dean Esmay is, what a faggot! Also he disagrees with me on politics, which makes him a cuck."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 12:25 AM
1

Your obligations do not change depending on how others fulfill theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 08:48 AM
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Roughly speaking: masculine lesbian vs. feminine lesbian. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butch_and_femme
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 08:45 AM
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The proponents believe it is deontological. A freedom is its own goal, it doesn't need to have any outside utility.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 11:16 AM
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The rules of PPD are reasonable. If you don't like them, you know what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 10:55 AM
3

I'm pretty sure that the MGTOWs that don't care about women/don't feel they have something to prove do not take part in discussion communities on the internet. Hence the biased sample.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:59 PM
2

*you're
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 07:30 PM
1

TRP's focus on "sexual strategy is amoral" fosters a climate of social nihilism and Machiavellianism. It promotes the mindset that men should not think about the potentially evil consequences of their actions, and therefore may cause some men to lose their soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 10:18 AM
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no men are naturally inclined to listen to girls' feelings instead of fucking them. They only do it because they've been duped into thinking that this is the way to get to fuck them Well I enjoy listening to both my male and female friends talking about their emotions (in moderation, of course). It makes me feel needed and trusted, and it makes me relate to them better. It seems that TRP likes to perpetuate the stereotype "all men are dogs and everything they do is in order to get laid, includin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 10:13 AM
1

What I mean is: you're almost saying that neuroticism gives men an advantage on average, when that probably isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 10:11 AM
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No male comedians, musicians, actors, or geeks in general, have ever turned awkward neurotic energy into awkwardly charming It's possible, but is it likely?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 04:31 PM
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I think you missed my point. I'm just saying you don't need to have mainstream recognition in order to have dedicated fans, that's all. I'm sure "alternative" musicians have groupies, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 09:46 AM
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There's only one game you really play on Xbox the Xbox is still a valid gaming platform Console gamers, everybody. It's more like this: imagine you have an encyclopedia that contains one informative entry. Every other entry is either useless or false. Would you return to consult that encyclopedia? Would you buy a second edition?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 09:44 AM
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That is a question that can be answered (adequately or not) elsewhere in the subreddit. The answer to your original question "why do people think TRP is full of teens" is "your attitude seems juvenile, especially to those who disagree". That's it!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 11:19 PM
1

No need to be a household name, just have a strong cult following.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 10:39 PM
1

When you refuse to buy her drinks at the club like all the other guys, that's an asshole move I just call it "frugal".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 12:35 AM
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Yeah, but that's just cheeky banter m8 I don't see why people need to call it "negging" or "treating girls like shit" when it's actually completely benign.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 12:33 AM
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I wouldn't put introverted among those traits, also depends on what you mean by "nerdy".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 11:01 PM
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Prior to that you're just a damn customer and can be asked to leave. See, if you do something like not sell an adult liquor because your shopkeeper wrongly thought their ID was fake, then there's little harm done. On the other hand, kicking out an innocent student for rape can not only ruin their huge investment of time and money (literally years and thousands of dollars), but also destroy their reputation for life. And you're saying that people who didn't do anything had it coming for looking a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 11:01 PM
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That doesn't alter the fact that they don't want the rapist round and the college has a huge interest in not keeping rapists around. Good. Once you only prove that the student is a rapist, you can get rid of him. This is the way the world works. Fair? Yes and no. I don't see where you're getting the "yes" from. Innocent people are getting fucked over by the system and you're "meh" about it? Try not to be and/or look rapey, that helps a lot in not getting kicked out. LITERALLY victim blaming. Goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 08:47 PM
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If it wasn't rape, if it was some other form of victimising and criminal misconduct (let's say someone trashes all your stuff, kills your fish, steals your bag and throws it in the lake), the school would investigate and use balance-of -probabilities as the standard not beyond-a-reasonable doubt. I don't see how that would be fair, either. You're kicking out a potentially innocent person out of school based on a "maybe". So why not for a rape case where the victim does not want to press charges?…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 12:56 AM
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I'm comfortable with a lower standard of evidence for kicking someone out of school than I am for literally imprisoning them Why? Assuming the accused is innocent, it's still a ruined education and a ruined reputation, potentially for life. Are you okay with the fact that your "lowered standard" has hurt innocents in these ways in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 12:51 AM
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The title sounds like taken straight from Buzzfeed. It's actually a good, informative headline. Just because it starts with a number doesn't make it clickbait.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 05:04 PM
1

men do not have an in group bias What about outgroup bias? Or are those the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 08:22 PM
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That blog doesn't look that much better, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 07:30 PM
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Plenty of atheists go to /r/Christianity to question Christianity. If they're being civil about it, they'll even get answers. It's actually a pretty pluralistic and un-circlejerky sub by Reddit standards, at least the last time I've been there. Just look at their list of flairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 07:46 AM
1

Why do you hate America women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 07:37 AM
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Anybody watching a late 80’s or 90’s movie can disprove this entirely. Is this what TRP considers "the lies of society"? Cheesy rom-coms? Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 09:47 AM
2

That doesn't really answer my question. You're not getting what you want. If it's outside your control, does it matter why?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 10:29 PM
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Sure, I can empathize with this. If she refuses to do it with you nonetheless, however, I still don't see why it matters whether or not she did it with Chad. Seems like plain envy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 09:49 PM
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Seems needlessly specific. It's like if I invented a word for crime that only includes crime done by Russians who live in humid areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 09:48 PM
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"She doesn't drink my spunk because her preferences have evolved over time" Well why not? Are you really saying it's impossible? I mean, if it's that important for a girl to drink your spunk, then I understand why you'd be dissatisfied, but I don't understand why the reason for the refusal would matter. What is the difference between a prude and a former slut if they're both shit in bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 09:04 PM
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I like how the word "rationalization" essentially means the same thing, but TRP has to create its own word for it to be edgy and special.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 08:53 PM
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Not respect, but everyone is owed dignity, not matter who they are or what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 07:32 PM
2

Yeah, I wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 01:35 PM
1

What if it's a girl's dick?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 12:30 PM
2

There are different ways to go about one's hobby. Sitting at home and watching anime is not the same as attending a convention or even cosplaying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 10:18 PM
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That's because the "irony" here is a sophism that comes from vaguely defined terms. To be "different" (or "unique", or "special") here does not mean to have every single one of one's properties differing from others', to have absolutely nothing in common with anyone else. It means to have enough differing properties to be distinguished. Every snowflake is different, even though they are all white and cold; every even number is different, even though they are all divisible by 2. "Be different, li…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 10:53 PM
1

Maybe not you, but I've seen many on the red side saying "it's not really a platonic relationship if you'd hit it". I disagree, I think it de facto is one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 08:43 PM
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Flirting isn't the same as sexual harassment. I also disagree with 1 and agree with 2, but they are not contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 08:01 PM
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There's a big difference between wanting and pursuing, just because a male doesn't pursue doesn't means he lacks the desire I actually don't disagree with this, but I don't see how that makes for an illegitimate or dysfunctional friendship. I know very well what it's like to be heartbroken and sexually frustrated in the friendzone. I also know what it's like to think "yeah, I'd hit that I guess". The latter is pretty much the same as with my guy friends, except there's occasionally a thought tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 08:00 PM
1

I just realized that his last name is "male" backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 07:02 PM
2

This leads to total self fulfillment Sounds cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 06:51 PM
5

It really is an ill-defined term, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 02:59 PM
1

Maybe, but so what? Depending on your needs, you only need from one to a couple dozen to like you, the rest can go to hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 12:32 PM
2

But you can reduce the risk... right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 07:59 AM
1

You are "society" too, you know. Do you do your part in punishing opportunists?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 04:28 PM
1

Finally, a concrete example. I wouldn't, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 04:27 PM
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Why? Seems like an arbitrary distinction. I mean, if you think something is immoral (as many illegal things indeed are), then you obviously shouldn't do it, legal or not. But it seems you're sidestepping the question of morality here. If you don't think something is immoral, but it's illegal, then you might not want to do it for fear of getting caught. But if you can't get caught, and you don't think it's immoral... is there any reason for you not to do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 04:26 PM
0

What proof do we have for dogs and cats existing? We don't. What are you, some sort of naive realist?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 02:43 PM
1

Do you define "hot women" with SMV? Because then it's a circular definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 02:37 PM
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Not "harsh" as much as silly and full of themselves. The whole subreddit projects an image of a some sort of elite internet secret society, like the Illuminati or the KKK. There are superfluous amounts of lingo (you could just call the psychological concept of making excuses "rationalization" like everyone else, but I guess using "hamstering" signals in-group membership more) and even the name of the community is based on that Matrix metaphor ("you've been lied to all your life and we know the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 02:28 PM
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Your opinion is objectively wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 12:06 PM
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You're making it sound as if OP is stomping her feet, demanding to be respected. No, she just asks what she has to do to earn that respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 12:05 PM
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95% Any citations on that number?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 07:21 AM
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A better question is: of all the people that you respect, how many are women? Talking about people I know IRL? Maybe about 60% of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 07:11 AM
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Perhaps not respect, but certainly dignity. Most religious and secular moral codes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 06:30 AM
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Because inflammatory subject = pageviews.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 06:27 AM
2

But Randians follow the NAP as a moral code, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 09:27 PM
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He was "involuntarily celibate". He was not a prototypical representative of the group, but he did belong to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 09:19 PM
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It's a Hollywood stereotype, if nothing else. Also has to do with being a pretty social profession. If it didn't have a risk of being caught or encountering violent crime, not everyone would be up to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 07:34 PM
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I dunno, I've been here pretty long imo and I've yet to see something that actually makes me uncertain. I guess you could say that I am biased in one direction or the other, and either believe trolls without suspicion or dismiss genuine posts as trolls. I obviously wouldn't know. I've had some doubts about Regina here, but after checking "her" profile, they all vanished. Maybe more people should do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 05:24 PM
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raising another man's child (single mother, infidelity, or what have you) Well those are vastly different things. Stepfatherhood and cuckoldry have very little in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 04:06 PM
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Poe's Law is bullshit. It's easy to tell apart which posts are genuine and which are bait with some experience. For most people, it's just wishful thinking. They want their opponents to be more caricaturized and extreme than they really are, so they employ a "law" to deny that they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 03:58 PM
2

And this is why most men will never support "feminism". Because of troll accounts?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 03:55 PM
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Seriously, we don't even know why exactly he did it. All we know is that he emphatized with robots and liked Le Angry Frog meme. Everything else is trying to fill the gaps with stereotypes and memes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 12:24 PM
1

I'm not very good at math, but... a/b = c c*b = a 15/0 = ??? ???*0 = 0 15 = 0 How do you account for the above?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 12:09 PM
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It is when you're bluffing about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 10:00 AM
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I suppose the women complain about it louder.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 02:53 PM
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By "approve" I mean "think they're making a right choice", not "giving signed permission".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 07:04 PM
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Well I disagree with your opinions, how about that? I think giving women a choice to lead her own life is superior to forcing her to go the "right" way, regardless of consequences. As for your post, I see nothing in it that proves that "society was better back then". After all, if parenting was so good, shouldn't it have produced good parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 07:03 PM
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As long as he's not a druggie, a criminal or abusive aka will hurt my child, I don't plan on stepping in. Well there you go, you already have conditions for which you will strongly disapprove.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 06:47 PM
1

You don't get infinity when you divide by zero. You just can't do it. There is no answer to the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:25 PM
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I've yet to see a history book that makes moral evaluations on how children were raised back then. Care to actually back up your claims?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 02:13 PM
0

Citation needed on nearly all of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 12:37 PM
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It's all the same liberal multiculturalist cuck philosophy that you espouse. What an intellectual.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 12:35 PM
2

I dunno man, if tennis players always talked about how they like Hillary Clinton, I think "the tennis community is pro-Clinton" would be a fair assertion, even though it has nothing to do with the game itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 07:09 PM
1

Wanting to push people onto tracks is, in small degrees, normal. It's called an intrusive thought and everyone experiences it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 06:25 PM
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I've got more important things to do than get her to sympathy fuck me at that point and if she can't understand that she'll need to GTFO Seriously, this. If there's anything I've learned from TRP is that some men will go to such lengths for sex which I will never consider even closely worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 06:22 PM
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OP pretty explicitly stated he means ALL male-female relationships, not just sexual ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 07:44 AM
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I thought "sexual strategy is amoral" meant that places like TRP would tell you that if you do X, Y will happen, but you are free to decide whether it is right or wrong. What you're saying instead is "all's fair in love and war".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 10:17 AM
1

However at the time of the episode, no one knew that Garnet was a fusion Huh? Both the characters and the audience were aware of this at this point; they even talked about it in the episode.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 09:28 AM
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It's a minute long video, but okay; see the edit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 07:31 PM
1

No, he's crazy about her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 07:24 PM
2

um excuse me but just because I do sexual stuff with another male doesn't mean I am gay educate yourself, ugh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 09:13 PM
2

Arbitrary isn't always useless or dysfunctional.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 08:52 PM
1

Semantics can be important.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 03:00 PM
1

Which is why it is important to keep the two distinct. Not all critics of Islam are rational, but it is not fair to conflate any of them with people who just hate brown people for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 02:57 PM
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Not their race, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 12:58 PM
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I can't prove that I'm not, but none come to mind. I don't really know that many married women anyway, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 11:37 AM
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How is prejudice against Muslims racist?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 07:41 PM
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To people saying these women may be underreporting: sure, but by how much? Is it by 1 partner, by 10, by 1000? How can one know this? As far as it stands, ~4-7 is the closest thing we've got to the truth. You can try to find a more reliable study, but until then, anything you say is your own anecdotal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 05:26 PM
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"Common observations" are limited by your potential cognitive biases, as well as the limitations of your point of view by things like class and geography. I, for one, don't know a single woman who married a man significantly richer than her. By your method, I would assert that they virtually do not exist. That wouldn't be very fair, would it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 05:12 PM
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And what's wrong with that? Unless you are popping bubbles or slurping it loudly or something. Isn't it supposed to be discreet?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 09:50 PM
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Where are you from? Everyone uses their phones in public all the time. It's a good way to kill time as any, and it doesn't disturb anyone, so what's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 07:43 AM
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I dunno man, I really like The Breakfast Club.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 09:39 PM
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I do live in a country where black people are pretty much non-existent and my entire experience with them is from the media. The thing is though, I look at these photos of black actresses and models and most of them just don't make me feel anything. I can admire their beauty like I would admire Michaelangelo's David, but most of them don't make my heart beat like the average white girls-next-door. (Does Rihanna count as black? I used to find her very attractive as a teenager. But again, that's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 05:52 PM
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some women do base their expectations on what they've seen in movies True, but only if it appeals to their wishful thinking. Same thing with "nice guys" - young boys and men who watch movies about where "the geek gets the girl" don't fall for it because they blindly believe everything the screen tells them, they do it because it's a nice "truth" and they WANT to believe it. Either way, even suggesting this is some sort of social engineering conspiracy is ridiculous. Studios only make what the pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 05:43 PM
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I don't think feminists are very fond of rom-coms, unless they are particularly "progressive".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 05:38 PM
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But there were, and are, non-civilized human societies. Obviously they didn't leave any records of themselves, but we can't say they couldn't have existed. Again: the question here is whether the invention of language is part of our biological evolution (e.g. opposable thumbs) or only our cultural evolution (e.g. farming). So far, there is no clear-cut consensus.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 05:36 PM
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They wouldn't have to justify it if they weren't shamed for it, would they?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 05:13 PM
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Why do you keep bringing up women? All you said was "men's love and loyalty is unconditional". I have shown proof that it is not, even relatively to women. Just because these cases are rare doesn't mean they don't disprove your thesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 05:12 PM
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I skimmed through it. Your question was not "why do white men say they find black women unattractive", it was "why do they let it be known". In this thread, the answer would be "because you asked them about it".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 05:10 PM
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This guy says that Hollywood "bombards" us with romantic comedies, as if they use it as some sort of propaganda and not merely a response to demand. Opinion discarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 05:07 PM
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We do however have parts of our body and brain specifically designed for speech. We may not. The so-called "speech apparatus" has a set of other functions - parrots can produce many of the same speech sounds as well, doesn't mean they can "speak". Same with the brain - they are computers capable of complex things, but the part of them that is responsible for language and nothing else is yet to be found. Every single human civilisation has developed some form of verbal communication. Yeah, but th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 05:05 PM
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I'm yet to see anyone going out of their way to shout "I don't find black women attractive!". But it is a pretty common dispreference. You can't be offended if you ask for the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 04:52 PM
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it is pretty obvious humans naturally have the ability for speech. Even if it is a byproduct of something else I don't see how that matters We also have the "natural" ability to drive cars, ride horses and program computers - most humans and few non-humans could be taught to do these things. Would you call these abilities "biological" just because humans, who are biological creatures, can do them? I guess it wouldn't be strictly untrue to say that, but it would erase the concept of "nurture" ent…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 04:34 PM
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Gave you a link, didn't I?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 04:26 PM
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Here you go. I never said a thing about female disloyalty, only about male loyalty. Seems like men don't love so unconditionally after all (not it's necessarily unjustifiable).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 02:24 PM
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Mouths and vocal cords are neither necessary nor sufficient for language. It's all about the brain. As it stands, there is a debate in psycholinguistics (one of the first results) as to whether homo sapiens evolved to have a specific language faculty in the brain or whether it was a byproduct of something else - after all, just because all humans have 10 fingers doesn't mean that they evolved so to be able to play the piano. Of course, there are sound arguments in favor of the idea that is is na…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 01:33 PM
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Then how come men are more likely to leave a terminally ill spouse?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 10:47 AM
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Using your phone on the train is uncivilized? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 10:32 AM
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Noam Chomsky pls go. There is no consensus on whether speech is "natural".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 10:25 AM
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I'm just saying it doesn't hurt their case.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 10:00 PM
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Not saying this is good behavior, but it doesn't exactly match OP's description.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 05:33 PM
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do you like it when unattractive women are nice to you? Yes. does it make you more attracted to them sexually? Honestly? It makes me consider the idea, at least. Maybe I'm just desperate, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 05:27 PM
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Also remember that, other than Belle herself, Gaston was extremely popular with every girl in the village, including those hot triplets. I don't know what the moral of that is, but it's certainly not "being Chad means you'll be alone forever".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:28 AM
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Feminism attacks particular dating advice centers, but does not offer alternatives. You know how conservatives are sometimes accused of protecting unborn babies from abortion, but then leaving them to fend for themselves when they are born? This is similar to this. OP here is asking "well if PUA is misogynistic, what am I supposed to do?" and it is true that there are not enough answers to that question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 08:34 AM
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Imagine an alternate universe where the Nazis succeeded. Would the morality differ? Of course not. People's moral beliefs and actions would differ, but they would be incorrect. Would you say that, morally, the Nazis were right or wrong? And if so, what were they right or wrong about?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 10:20 PM
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I'm pretty sure most people in the world would agree that, for instance, burning babies is immoral. Perhaps a few wouldn't, but it doesn't matter either way - moral facts, just like scientific facts, aren't decided by consensus. Not all scientists agree on whether there is one universe or multiple, but the answer is decidedly one or the other, not both, or neither, or something in between. How can you rely on your sense of right and wrong at all if it's not connected to any objective moral reali…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 09:51 PM
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I would agree that there is good taste and bad taste, and that you can say that some people's aesthetic experiences are better, more pure than others'. But even if not: would you say that diversity in people's tastes about art is the same as a diversity of people's opinions about morality? Of course, we can all have our opinions about morality, just as we can all have our opinions about how many peas there are in a jar. But that doesn't mean that the jar doesn't exist, or that the number of peas…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 08:57 PM
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That's like saying "we all have our own subjective mathematics". If you believe that "human sacrifice is okay for you, but not for me", then you might as well say morality doesn't exist altogether. It would be as meaningful then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 05:26 PM
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Yeah, but we do it depending on context. When you say morality does not exist, you relinquish your right to be angry at anyone who ever does injustice towards you or someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 05:02 PM
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I find it funny how multiple comments in that thread reprimand OP for treating his wife like shit. So much for "amoral strategy sub". Looks like redpillers have hearts after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 10:11 AM
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The problem is, objectively speaking, morality doesn't exist. Yeah, I'm gonna come to your house and kill your dog. If you object, I'll just say I don't believe in morals :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 09:32 AM
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Psychological research has consistently shown that individual differences far outweigh gender differences when it comes to personality. Not that I disbelieve you, but could you post some links?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 08:03 AM
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Are those positions wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 07:48 AM
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...yeah, maybe. Still has nothing to do with personal appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 07:33 AM
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Virtually anything. It should be common sense that your looks do not determine the validity of your intellectual position, so why are we even discussing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 11:19 PM
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Does this matter? Being fat and ugly doesn't make them wrong, just as being slim and beautiful wouldn't have made them right.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 05:28 PM
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The reason Homer met the former president and went to outer space is because he is the main character of an animated sitcom. He certainly does not represent any major demographic in this regard; Frank might, but not Homer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 05:25 PM
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No, because I don't see myself having an emotional connection while being cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 03:43 PM
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I don't see how. OP's point is "sex is the most important thing for men", while this only proves "sex is better than nothing". But duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 12:49 PM
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Not for me. A does not have any advantages over B that I could actually use. This is why I say that the example doesn't prove that sex is more important than love; A just doesn't have any love.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 10:51 AM
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Yeah, but I can't be in love with her if she has a man on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 06:25 PM
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Huh? I'm just saying that A does not have an either good emotional or sexual relationship, while B at least has one of them. What do you mean by "independent example"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 07:38 AM
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By actress standards? Yeah, she's pretty plain.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 07:34 AM
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Time for a change.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 07:08 AM
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Not really. A room full of thousands of left-handed people would contain many outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 07:06 AM
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People really don't realize just how bottom-up the film industry is, do they?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 10:27 PM
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When a society has a growing number of men dropping their shovels, hard hats, and tool belts, and going home to play video games and jack off to porn, that can only spell the beginning of the end of that society and its economy. This is objectifying men and treating them as primarily means to an end. The free market will fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 10:06 PM
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But it seems that at least in OP's example, sexual infidelity also includes emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 09:27 PM
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Your memory is immediately wiped and you enter the scenario. Well that's interesting, but it already opens up the whole set of philosophical questions that deal with simulation and reality and whether or not a true reality is better than a false one if one can't tell the difference. But yeah, I would certainly be tempted towards A then. However, since we're assuming I never suspect anything about the cheating (if we don't then the whole memory wipe thing is useless anyway), then why not take the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 10:14 PM
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Interesting question, OP, but I don't think it proves what you want it to. I don't think I would be able to have a real loving relationship with a woman who fucks another man, while I would still probably enjoy the sex, so I guess I would pick B by elimination. That doesn't prove that sex is more important, but only that an emotional relationship is impossible without monogamy (for me at least). Don't see why you have to introduce the whole polyandry element anyway, it unnecessarily complicates …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 09:02 PM
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Too bad, you should.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 09:01 PM
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They are both undesirable by design, it's supposed to be a dilemma. If your executioner suggest you to die by shooting or hanging, you can't just say "I pass on both".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 08:48 PM
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Then they should leave Easy in casual dating, not as much in marriages with kids and common property.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 05:21 PM
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OP's feelings are moral outrage, not negative preference. He doesn't say "I dislike women because they wear dresses and have small feet", he says "I "dislike" women because they are selfish backstabbers". Which may as well be true, but it's not the same thing as Coke vs Pepsi.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 08:02 AM
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Which didn't just suddenly stop to exist when some new trend was introduced; they often mixed More like clashed. You seem to do this thing I've often seen when someone antropomorphizes an entire society and treats conflicting ideas within as hypocritical or paradoxical. Just because one of them won out in the end (or did it? it seems that indigenous cultures are more romanticized than ever in postcolonialist thought, as if Africa and the Americas were flourishing, violence-free Edens before the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 09:17 PM
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Monks, priests, and other religious officials are often sexual deviants. It often seems so because of various sex scandals in the media, but I'm yet to see a source that shows that sexual deviancy is overrepresented among religious officials. Even so, "often" does not mean "always" or even "usually". So being a hedonist is a crime? Not by itself, but it's not a good thing when you have to give away your honor for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 08:54 PM
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Okay? You asked "why is it wrong?"; I answered why I think it is (given your circumstances).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 08:45 PM
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No, not really. "Everyone" does that, but "everyone" also gets pretty valid criticisms for it. If you oppose someone for moral reasons, but then continue to trade with them, then you are not taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 06:43 PM
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I'm talking about literal vows of chastity here. Unless you are implying that 0% of monks, priests and Anatoly Wassermans are "healthy heterosexual men", it's not something impossible to do. "I have a libido, so there's nothing I can do" is the excuse of the weak-willed hedonist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 06:34 PM
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That's absolutely not what I said or implied. I'm just saying that you having consensual sex with them benefits them as well. If women really are as you describe them, then the moral thing to do would be to boycott them, even at the cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 06:30 PM
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you're rationalizing and making yourself feel better by saying you were just TOO smart, and that objectively the other girl is a worse catch Anecdote: a girl(space)friend of mine says a guy once rejected her and he literally said it was because he thought she was too intelligent. I obviously can't say for sure if it was the real reason, but I guess it's not always based on nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 06:02 PM
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Girls don't get horny seeing a man kick a puppy, but the fact is that traits attractive to women correlate more with assholes than with sweet and gentle men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 05:54 PM
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Why can't I have fun fucking women and at the same time not liking what they are? Because unless you are a rapist, sex is usually a mutually beneficial activity. It's like asking "why can't I trade with China while still condemning their human rights abuses?"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 04:32 PM
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No it fucking isn't. Hundreds of men go into voluntary celibacy every year.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 04:27 PM
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Murder is immoral. So is TRP (according to detractors). If it was seen as "people doing morally neutral things that are ineffective", there would be no outrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 04:24 PM
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Mind how the concept of the "noble savage" and "the white mans burden" happened around the same time Aren't those completely opposite ideas? Also, Wikipedia says they did, in fact, appear one after the other. Look at how aristocrats, and later the bourgeoisie treated their wives and daughters. They didn't work, were glorified for their "feminine qualities" and their "chastity" See, this is why I am not comfortable using the word "oppression" for the treatment of women in pre-feminist society. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 02:58 PM
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Not that I support leaking of private data in whatever case, but it's funny to call moral outrage "butthurt".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 12:59 PM
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You can still dress nice without spending a fortune or wearing something extremely uncomfortable, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 09:59 AM
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Assuming feminism is right, you should be pro-feminist whether or not that will get you laid. Virtues are virtues.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 09:56 AM
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I'm sorry, I'm not saying this just to spite you, but I really do think that this makes you a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 11:22 PM
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One way or the other, that is not a very STEM-related question to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 06:44 PM
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I dunno man. I studied in the humanities and I always made the most possibly controversial edgelord essays and presentations that I could reasonably defend. I once wrote one that argued that animals have no rights and animal torture is not immoral, got full marks for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 06:40 PM
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Now that really is awful. You're saying you will betray truth and justice in favor of your loved ones. What kind of person does that make you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 06:36 PM
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Since pretending to support arguments you disagree with is effectively lying, you would lie to your friends just so that your gf wouldn't look bad (even though she should, in the situation)? Wouldn't want to be your friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 05:47 PM
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So TRP is harmful to society?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 10:03 AM
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A man (or woman) with options does not need to take chances (you do take a bigger chance whenever you date a mentally ill person than otherwise). The uncomfortable truth about dating is that prejudices are rational from a pragmatic standpoint, and not everyone gets a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 08:53 PM
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"If a man can't entertain me enough just by talking, he don't deserve the pussy. I on the other hand have done my part by having a vagina and hence don't need to provide anything other than the possibility of future sex" Well that seems to be the men's fault, no? They are willing to jump through all those hoops just to get into a stupid, boring woman's pants. If men everywhere raised their standards, women would have to lower them or contribute more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 08:30 AM
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So if one agrees with "theoretical RP" but completely rejects "applied RP", is one still a redpiller?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 08:23 AM
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I would totally love to find a girl who is taller than me; it isn't easy to do because I am 185 cm tall. NAMALT????
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 09:35 PM
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I don't think "psychiatrists are out to get you!" is a central TRP belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 09:09 PM
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I think this guy is legit paranoid (or trying very hard to pretend to be one).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 02:14 PM
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We are talking about internal ("real") emotions here, not appearances. If we assume that Women are more impacted by their emotions then that should mean women's emotions are stronger than men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 11:44 AM
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How do these two not contradict each other? If the emotion wasn't strong, it would not have an impact, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 08:47 PM
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Surely it must be worth forgoing all this satisfaction if that means one does not have to deal with these soulless civilization-ruining demons, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 08:40 PM
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Well gee OP, "girl game" seems like a pretty shitty thing to do. Shouldn't one look down on it instead of enabling it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 07:22 PM
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Yes, but nothing I said excludes heterosexual men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 07:44 AM
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But men still have sexual desire and feminism has shamed or removed easy channels for men to satisfy their sexual appetite (e.g Prostitution and Porn). Before feminism came along, prostitution and porn was legal and acceptable, right? Without them, men are now forced to deal with these terrible people and give in to their demands. Nobody's forcing you to do anything. You can live out your life without sex if you want. Monks and priests do it, right? (inb4 "little boys xD")
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 11:37 PM
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The OP said "many people", not "anyone".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 11:33 PM
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They are the vapid, entitled, attention seeking sluts who contribute little to nothing to society. Then why do men care so much about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 05:19 PM
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What happened? I think it's pretty good, I certainly would not wish to leave it for any other currently existing society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 05:16 PM
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Men don't like war, but [...] army games It's not like accurate military simulators like Arma or Wargame are actually popular. Games like CoD are merely military themed pulp shooters, which is fine, of course, but it's not like you can say that people who play them like the (suffering-free) reality of war.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 08:48 AM
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You seem to purposefully omit the word "typically" there, OP. Dictionaries define words according to how they are used in real discourse. Since people talk about anti-female sexism more than the other kind, this gets added to the definition. This doesn't mean the word doesn't denote other kinds of sexism or that they do not exist, just that they are not very typical examples (in language-in-use). Compare to how Google defines sword: a weapon with a long metal blade and a hilt with a hand guard, …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:52 PM
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Basically because Max isn't the only main character, but shares the spotlight with Furiosa, therefore anti-feminists claim it's a film made by feminazis trying to corrupt strong, male characters. Which is pretty ridiculous considering the same was true in the 2nd and 3rd movies. Max played a crucial role in other people's conflicts and struggles, but he was ultimately just the Wandering Jew.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 10:54 AM
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I actually really dig Swift's body, but not her face. NAMALT?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 10:42 AM
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No men rally around that to help the damsel in distress Maybe, but they mostly want that help to be easy. You don't see lines of suitors standing in front of mental hospitals or prisons.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 08:44 AM
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Have you shaved your head and pierced your tongue, OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 12:33 PM
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How do you react when someone acts that way towards you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 12:03 AM
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decency got me nowhere. No karma, no brownie points, nothing Well if you believe in karma, then you should have gotten some of it. Otherwise, we don't really do good deeds for ourselves, do we? prioritized my own happiness instead of that of women I might have impacted negatively (which I ususally vastly overestimated) You acted on virtue and refused to tell an exploitative lie (yes, it was effectively a lie). The fact that you didn't know its exact consequences only means that you acted accordi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 12:01 AM
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Very relevant example indeed, thanks! This sort of thing (or rather, if you had done the opposite) is what BP talks about when they criticize the idea of sexual strategy being amoral. Sure, it "works", but at a cost that most people wouldn't consider decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 08:52 PM
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I think the idea is that the girl can reach it, but would rather just ask someone else for whom it takes equal effort to do it just because she is so damn lazy. It's not a very good example, I don't think any supermarket shoppers do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 06:22 PM
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Yeah, I know this is a dubious point, but I don't count satisfaction derived from altruistic acts as something that disqualifies them from being selfless. You wouldn't feel good about it if you didn't legitimately consider it the right thing to do or if you didn't care about that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 06:14 PM
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I'm curious. I've heard redpillers on PPD express sentiments like "why should I do it if it doesn't benefit me?" and I was wondering how widespread this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 06:02 PM
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I think I saw a quote somewhere, maybe by C.S. Lewis, but maybe not because I can't find it anywhere, that went like "we don't believe things because it is nice or beneficial to believe them, we believe them because they are true". Catholicism is true. Or it isn't, in which case it would right off the bat be undesirable to believe it, even if it made one richer and happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 09:38 AM
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Do you think TRP is consistent with Christian values? The Golden Rule, loving your neighbor etc.?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 09:08 AM
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Then that's a feeling that is entirely your own creation and responsibility. Are you saying this is 100% in their heads and that no one really looks down on "different" men? Nobody ever gets made fun of for liking polka?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 11:58 PM
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I see why you'd read it that way, but not what I meant, should have phrased it differently. What I meant is, it's the fact that all men are doing it that causes men not into sports to feel ostracized, because it is undesirable in many circles to be "not like all the normal men".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 04:05 PM
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If it doesn't benefit me in some way, its essentially useless. There's your problem. Feminism is, on paper, an altruist movement. It's not supposed to benefit you, only those who are (allegedly) wronged and downtrodden. You're essentially saying "Why should I be an abolitionist? I'm not a slave.".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 10:50 AM
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Would you disagree that society says "a man has to be like most men"? Because if not, then that is what pushes men into liking sports (beer/cars/etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 10:29 PM
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Sorry, wrong reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 10:29 PM
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Does "promiscuous" mean "cheating"? Because if not, then #1 for sure. If so, then neither. If neither isn't an option, then #2.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 08:10 PM
7

I thought AFBB (real or not) was a compromise, i.e. the woman's ideal would be "alpha bucks", but since she can't achieve it, she settles for betas. SFVR is more like having your cake and eating it too, from how it sounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 07:43 PM
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Might convince somebody, but If you were willing to try with him, why not with me? there's a different starting point here. "I have no idea what anal is like, should I give it a chance?" vs. "I tried anal once and I hated it, should I give it a second chance?". Her opinion of it is already slanted towards the negative, so she's more likely to refuse to try it again, and not (necessarily) because she loves you less than Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 07:37 PM
3

Is that why poor people make more of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 10:10 PM
0

Knock yourself out, Friedrich.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 05:21 PM
2

>Some Chad and his cronies always bully me on campus >They regularly beat me up while his hot girlfriend watches and laughs at me >Decide I've had enough >Prepare my secret weapon the next time I come to school >Like clockwork, Chad walks up to me during my lunch break with his bootlickers and gf in tow >"You have some nerve sitting on our bench, nerd!" >I tell Chad to go fuck himself >He turns red and starts breathing heavily >He tells me to apologize or he'll knock my teeth out >I reach inside…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 11:50 AM
0

Fine then. You do, however, forfeit any right to righteous anger when someone comes into your house and kills your dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 10:50 AM
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If she tried it once with Chad and didn't like it, then it's just a matter of her discovering her preferences. If she did it with him consistently, but never with you... you know what, yeah, I do see why you would be upset at this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 08:39 AM
0

Yes you do. All humans are bound by certain rules, regardless of whether they signed any contract or not. lol guys I never PROMISED I wouldn't kill babies
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 08:02 AM
1

"For what does it profit a man to get laid and forfeit his soul?" - Jesus Christ You people have to understand that morality is not a set of good behaviors that you will get rewarded for. Morality is, first and foremost, a duty; if doing your duty fucks you over, then too bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 12:11 AM
1

Famous Clickbait Writer Creates Another Piece of Empty Controversy, Manosphere Laps It Up, All According To Keikaku FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 10:13 PM
1

I don't think pony dakimakuras are licensed by Hasbro.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 08:55 PM
1

It's not like bronies actually consume more MLP products than the target audience, they are just a vocal cult following.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 08:45 PM
1

ZIMBABWE
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 08:44 PM
2

Saying that unintelligent people are more likely to believe X does not mean that X is wrong. In your case, X = "generalizing is good".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 07:15 PM
2

Well then do you see how this relates to your post?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 06:05 PM
1

Jesus Christ people, his name was Elliot Rodger. If I was a computer programmerist, I'd make a pretentious novelty bot that corrects people on this matter. P.S. Guy was crazy. I don't think one conversation, even with a person whose opinion he highly regards, would have changed his mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 02:27 PM
1

Maybe men pursue those interests because society pressures them to it. My mom used to tell me (half-joking, half-serious) "what kind of a man are you if you can't fix an electric socket/drive an automobile/hammer a nail!". Although to be honest, I don't think this has really worked. I know my way around computer software relatively well, but hardware and machinery does not interest me at all, and I have little competence in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 02:15 PM
1

The way we use generalizations is as a guide. Like how a map is a guide. We TRPers are perfectly happy adjusting our behavior to fit a specific situation or person - the way you'd adjust your path if you found a place where reality didn't match the map. We just prefer to have that map to start with. This makes a lot of sense, but wouldn't you say that some RPers forget about this fact as well sometimes? It seems that some of them really do forget about everyone's uniqueness. Maybe that's just a …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 10:18 AM
1

I've seen plenty of studies that show that either religious people or atheists are smarter than the other. Does this alone prove that religion/atheism is wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 10:15 AM
1

It's like something out of a sci-fi/fantasy novel. This shit is getting ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 06:59 PM
4

Betas aren't real men, apparently, or at least their preferences are wrong and invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 06:46 PM
1

I don't really know anything about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 04:08 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 04:08 PM
1

Not a very honorable thing to do, but either way denying a large portion of them the vote will not contribute to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 10:51 AM
2

Eastern European. (2) is pretty much common knowledge here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 10:50 AM
8

This is completely missing the core purpose of democracy. It is not about competence, only ownership. The people may make good decisions about their country or they may make bad ones. But they are their decisions to make because the country belongs to them. It's about what's right, not what's good. Otherwise you might as well cut out the middleman and just put a circle of experts in charge of everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 10:36 AM
1

It's one thing when the woman leaves unsatisfied and doesn't return the man's attention. It's another when the man is labeled a scumbag, a borderline criminal and a "this is why we need feminism". So I guess you didn't really answer OP's central question.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 09:52 AM
3

"But what if someone already crazy stumbles upon it and gets triggered" is a terrible precedent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 02:13 PM
1

be a bit immoral Although unavoidable, immorality is always undesirable. Always. That is tautological. fuck your morality Fuck you!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 11:43 PM
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thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis Even if we assume that the majority of the stories are neither lies nor exaggerations, the fact still remains that they are posted on a place that has a very strong ideology as its status quo. So someone who took the red pill and succeeded would post his report there, but someone who succeeded with a blue, green or yellow pill would not. This is why the conclusion "the red pill is the most effective strategy because look at our reports!" is unreliable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 10:07 AM
3

ignorant bias That's what racism is about, conventionally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 12:49 PM
2

Moral incentives are a thing. People do want to do what's right. And when they don't, then their behavior deserves shame. This is what TBP imagines themselves to be doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 11:04 PM
-1

It's a goddamn metaphor. As long as there are some things in common, the comparison is valid. When someone says "my mom is Hitler", they don't mean their mother is a totalitarian warlord, just that she's very strict.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 09:11 PM
2

If we accept two premises (both of which are very arguable, but are believed by some): TRP, at its core, is morally wrong There is no effective way other than TRP to get ahead in your love life then yes, incel is the way to go. Otherwise you'll lose your soul with your virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 09:07 PM
1

You don't admire or are grateful to anyone who gave their life for a higher cause? For people who do mind if their life gets wrecked it doesn't work quite as well. It's not a method that's supposed to "work". It's an obligation that you have regardless of the consequences. That's the whole point of the Book of Job - you have to be righteous whether you get rewarded or punished for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 09:31 AM
1

Well I don't know. Do you think either of those things are very fair or intellectually honest?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 09:18 AM
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They could have prevented it, but didn't. They also achieved their goals, I see that as success.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 09:27 PM
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I don't have to do anything Well then nobody has to take you seriously. especially for that assclown, it's a fruitless effort Debates are for the audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 07:55 PM
1

Do you really believe the human collective psyche works like water temperature? White supremacism is bad, so you have to teach white supremacists black supremacism in order to balance it out
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 07:02 PM
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You have to corroborate your statements, man. You can't just say "well it's obvious!" if others don't see it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 06:56 PM
1

this has not worked out well for the groups who practiced it What about Jesus Christ and the Christian martyrs? Even if you don't believe he was the son of God, you have to admit that his death contributed to a global religion that lasted for 2 millenia now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 06:53 PM
1

Every culture, subculture, and group has a different set of morals... and they all think that theirs are the true ones, and that they are just lucky enough to have born in the one society in history that wasn't ever wrong about anything. Well so what? Just because several people are equally convinced they're right doesn't mean none of them are actually right. Moral philosophy is a thing. If morality were a mere agreement, then it would be permissible to break it once you lose any incentive to fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 10:25 AM
1

Your finer points seem questionable at the very least, but either way: Who made society like this? Wasn't it people like you? Well you can at least try to unmake it. morality is a contract, and they aren't the ones who tore it up But that's wrong. Morality is a set of obligations that you have to follow regardless of circumstances. You don't get to do whatever you want just because you've been wronged. If everyone acted the way you acted and followed the same rules you currently do, would the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 08:50 AM
2

If a pacifist came to a gun safety class believing "I would never kill any person for any reason" and came out thinking "I guess I would kill a man if he were threatening my life", I would conclude that gun safety (as taught by that class) is NOT amoral. It seems that TRP teaches readers some things about the world that causes some of them to change their moral principles. To me, that makes it more than "just a tool".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 08:45 AM
1

You are also society. Influence it!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 11:31 PM
1

So you think no one ever changed their moral worldview from TRP? They were all just people who walked in and walked out with the same set of goals and principles, but just a wider array of resources?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 11:30 PM
1

Why not defer to a third party, like a wise rabbi? Or just flip a coin.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 10:13 PM
2

Speak for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 10:42 AM
3

Not all sexual fantasies are possible to realize. /d/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 03:45 PM
1

To defeat the Cyberdemon, shoot at it until it dies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:30 PM
2

"I'll never cheat", "I would never allow myself get fat" Those are broken promises, not lies. Although I'd say they might be just as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:09 PM
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Don't get pregnant if you can't afford it? Personally, I don't think alimony laws are unfair under certain circumstances. It's just that they've been exploited to hell and back.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 06:19 PM
1

Conspiracy theorists, Men’s Rights Activists, Pick-Up Artists, GamerGate, even the Neoreaction: all of these communities share a common creed, tech-fluent and superficially self-aware. What a great start. I bet this is gonna be an accurate article free of sweeping generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 05:52 AM
1

Think of the red pill like a gym. If you go to a gym expecting to see hot women, you might be disappointed by the fact they are gross, sweaty, and wearing frumpy clothes. You don't go to the gym to be attractive at the gym, you go to be attractive outside the gym. I understand what you're trying to say, but... muh yoga pants
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 06:54 PM
1

Not necessarily trying to say they are, but you don't have to be a stupid person to be easily susceptible to manipulation. Book smarts/street smarts etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 06:53 PM
1

This is literally the opposite of "taking the red pill", though. Neo wouldn't agree with you, but Cypher probably would.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 06:50 PM
4

"Why wouldn't I hold sexist beliefs if they are beneficial to me?" Because they aren't true. Unless they are, but then you ought to hold them regardless of whether they are "beneficial" to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 06:48 PM
1

Nationalism is like the wall of a cell protecting itself from harmful viruses, it's a good thing at this point in time. Reminds me of that car scene from Cabaret.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 08:04 AM
3

My mother and most of the women I knew from my childhood have been honorable and kind. What now?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 05:44 PM
1

Because that's not what I believe. A woman posting a heavily photoshopped or angled picture on a dating site would be deceptive. Actually looking good through "artificial" means would not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 08:04 PM
1

Why is a face with makeup on it not one's "true face"? Is it because it's temporary? Is it because you need external technology to achieve it? Because the same can be said about shaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 02:03 PM
-3

It gives you a new look, just like shaving. But the "new look" is not illegitimate, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 01:22 PM
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Not at all. I am arguing that the "different look" is not fake or invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 12:52 PM
1

you can't fake dead lifting 400 pounds What if I had cyborg arms that could do that? Would that be fake or manipulative? Please don't bother responding with "lol that's not possible in real life, so why even entertain the idea".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 10:32 AM
0

By wearing makeup you are presenting yourself in a way that isn't a true representation Why? You don't pretend to look better, you actually look better. It all sounds like the cult of "natural" things to me, like people who insist on using things that are "organic" and "without chemicals". How is makeup any different from showering or shaving?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 10:23 AM
-1

I personally believe that deceiving is wrong by default. There are exceptions (murderer at the door, etc.), but I wouldn't agree that this is one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 09:10 AM
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Naivete has little to do with the subject at hand. Wouldn't you say that it would be reasonable to take the scammer to court? Even if not possible, wouldn't you say that it was wrong of him to do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 09:08 AM
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It's a lie, you're just not supposed to be stupid enough to fall for it? Let me paraphrase. It's not a lie if your purpose is not deceiving anyone, because the facts are on the table. The purpose of cosplaying Harry Potter is not convincing people that you are an actual wizard. However, if someone were naive enough to actually believe you are a wizard, I think it might be wrong (although hilarious) to take advantage of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 09:04 AM
-2

What if you were a real lookalike and also good at impressions? Do you think it's okay to exploit people who just don't know any better?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 12:04 AM
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"White lies" is ameliorative. Those are not wrong to tell by definition. It's quite questionable whether this or any other hypothetical lie are white lies, though. If the only way to get what you want was to do something wrong, would you do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 11:58 PM
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It's not a lie if you're not supposed to be fooled at all. I might consider corsets and implants lies, but certainly not makeup and heels. Those are just improvements, like clothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 11:54 PM
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I think it's reasonable to expect that a stranger won't bullshit to my face for personal gain. And I know it's not legally fraud. I just wanted to emphasize that I'm not talking about bending the truth, but outright creating falsehood.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 11:51 PM
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A lot of people think prostitutes like being prostitutes and don't understand that most of it is forced upon them Citation? If the pimps were put out of business and the women had more control it would be healthier and safer all around Superfreakonomics says that a prostitute with a pimp has a much lower probability of being abused by a customer, so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 08:05 PM
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Showering, shaving and haircuts are temporary as well. Are they "fake"? Your fitness physique doesn't last forever if you don't maintain it, either. Makeup and surgery is covering up a lack of SMV. If we're using "SMV" interchangeably with "good looks" here, then I don't really see how. If I look a woman in the face, and it makes me feel aesthetic pleasure or sexual attraction, then why should I care whether or not she "woke up like this"? If she's that much worse without makeup, then I'll just …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 09:19 PM
-1

Make-up and surgery are just self-improvement, like going to the gym or being on a diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 12:49 PM
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Democracy isn't based on the idea that the citizens are collectively competent and will usually choose what's best, and therefore should be able to rule their country. Democracy is based on the idea that the citizens are the entitled owners of the country and should be able to rule it regardless of whether they do it well or poorly. Presuming that, women should always have the right to vote even if they really are all those terrible things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 08:18 PM
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men don't tank their marriages over this - they rather cheat on the side but keep their spouse So much for men being more honorable. Seriously, how is that preferable? That kind of marriage has no integrity, it's better off dissolved.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 06:17 PM
4

Nice editorializing, OP.
/r/MensRights28/04/15 05:04 PM
1

yet isn't the reverse rampant everywhere else? Yeah, sure, why not. That doesn't make it more fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 07:27 AM
-1

Name ONE thing that isn't a religion. That's right, I thought so.
/r/MensRights08/04/15 11:09 PM
-1

Everything is a religion when you think about it.
/r/MensRights08/04/15 08:34 PM
0

Many do but usually only if the girl is not significantly taller than you. I'd totally be down with that, and I myself am pretty tall. Hnnnnnnng.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 09:50 PM
7

Alpha pounds; beta pounds 10/10
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 10:29 AM
1

I always knew that the "pro-gay marriage" people are really anti-marriage. I don't think this woman represents everyone who is pro-gay marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 02:34 PM
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Good. This proves that PPD is a proper debate sub after all, and not some feel-good hugbox. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 12:10 PM
1

Doesn't that REALLY hurt?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/15 02:28 PM
7

Seems like a place that teaches you to check your male privilege more than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 05:50 AM
-1

Well they should have.
/r/MensRights19/01/15 01:29 PM
-4

Honestly, it wasn't very funny. Tried way too hard to make a point rather than be subtle about it.
/r/MensRights19/01/15 12:06 AM
1

There's one grand prize, but there are usually many smaller prizes as well. I hope you get my analogy either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 10:35 PM
1

"Someone" got the winning lottery ticket, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 09:11 PM
2

It is a general principle that cliberals/libertarians hold on to that claims that any kind of excess regulation hurts small business because it's harder for them to deal with it than it is for big businesses. So I would say yes; in the best case scenario this is a quid pro quo in which you weaken small business but strengthen "equality".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 10:02 AM
1

This is some New Age shit. How do I know who I am? What the hell does that even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 09:04 PM
1

Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 05:54 PM
3

That's a "boldness is more important than doing something useful and doing something well"-thing endemic to America. Wouldn't you agree that it's also endemic to TRP? People would rather die trying to become alpha than accept their place as a beta, or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 08:07 AM
2

It doesn't help that in many languages nurses are called "sick sisters", "medical sisters" etc., so the males would be "medical brothers", which foregrounds the uncommonness and sounds pretty silly as a result. Calling flight attendants steward(esse)s is already considered politically incorrect nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 08:05 AM
1

Your opinion is literally objectively wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 08:28 PM
3

Well this is something new, at least this time they're trying to get men into female-dominated professions. I don't think this is right, because two wrongs etc., but at least you can say they don't just care about pushing women into male-dominated jobs.
/r/MensRights13/01/15 11:26 PM
2

no one wanted to exterminate Russians This is what Russian neo-Nazis actually believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 09:49 AM
2

Ctrl+F 'Rodgers' 5 matches Guys, it's Rodger.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 09:44 AM
2

everyone is better educated about rape so predatory people who are the kind that will eventually cross the line and rape someone (rape is NEVER an isolated event) get identified and called out or even arrested much earlier (or change their ways long before they slip down the slope to rape)? You mean like in Minority Report?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 05:31 PM
181

A Non Abusive Man Tells you you look good This must feel incredibly patronizing to women. Right?
/r/MensRights08/01/15 11:20 AM
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I don't know if you would consider this a significant difference, but even if the white guy deserves/gets less praise, he still gets praise. Promiscuous women, on the other hand, aren't considered "half-studs".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 08:50 AM
1

women have no idea how to help people with sex and attraction because they have no idea how their own bodies work But men know how theirs work?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 08:38 PM
1

Zimbabwe!
/r/MensRights03/01/15 02:01 PM
3

Do you think natural instincts are always a good source of morality? It's not wrong if it feels right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 10:57 PM
1

I go to college because I enjoy learning stuff and increasing my own erudition. Yes, I'll likely have a career from it, but if I only wanted money I'd have chosen something more lucrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 07:56 PM
4

I see your general idea and I agree, but I still think it's possible to reform these laws without dismantling them and throwing the baby away with the bathwater. How? Well, that's another question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 03:56 PM
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I don't deny that there aren't ambiguous and vague cases, but that's certainly not all of them. Scrapping emotional abuse law altogether denies victims justice. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 03:14 PM
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Scrap the emotional abuse bullshit I hope you never get to change your mind from experience. People do terrible things to their spouses and children that doesn't involve hitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 02:42 PM
2

Immortality is literally priceless The Elves thought it was a curse, didn't they? The humans would go to another world if they died, while an elf killed in battle would be forced to roam the earth until the end of the world, or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 11:39 AM
1

Of course, altogether illegal (rather than just somewhat unethical) strategies should not be studied Why not? What causes the distinction?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 09:39 PM
2

Bitter? Sure. Woman-hating? Maybe as venting, sometimes. Not legitimately. The MRM has plenty of women amongst its leaders. The kind of group that not only hears out but also follows female-created ideas can't be too misogynistic, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 04:03 PM
2

What you have to understand is that a dictionary is not an encyclopedia. It does not have to contain facts about the real world, only word usage; and, as it stands, the word 'rapist' most often refers to a male person.
/r/MensRights26/12/14 09:23 AM
2

just don't be surprised when you get screwed But I will be surprised, because that is very unlikely to happen to me. Most of the time, people keep their word. Of course, sometimes people do break their promise. But at the same time, some legal contracts fail to be enforced as well, e.g. if the courts are corrupt. Does this make them "ephemera" as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 09:17 AM
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Explain exactly why you "have" to give the $20 back other than your desire not to break your word? Other than maintaining an acquaintanceship? None. But my desire to keep my word is not some whim or fancy, it is a principle based on the Golden Rule. And if you don't care about that? What kind of a human being would I be if I didn't? See, I borrow money all the time, and I always pay it back. People borrow from me as well, and they return it, too. If these deals are "not real", then why do they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 01:20 AM
2

If you are hitting on a man's wife and he says "hey! that's my wife!" and he says "prove it" and she says " no im not he's lying"--you can produce rings and a license. If you are hitting on a man's girlfriend and he says "hey! that's my girlfriend" and he says "prove it!" and she says "no im not Not every society had documented marriages. Were those all invalid altogether? my verbal agreement to do something for you for terms that would be considered unconscionable or illegal I don't think these…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 11:32 PM
5

Yeah, sure. Does the lack of formality make them meaningless or "not real"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 09:46 PM
5

Maybe "arbitrary" wasn't exactly the best word to use. Still, you are saying that marriage is legitimate while non-marital romantic relationships aren't because the former involves a ceremony and a legal process. If so, would you say there's no such thing as a friend? A guardian? A mentor? A benefactor? A protégé? Keep in mind also that not every marriage in every society involves every single one of the elements you mentioned. Would you say that William Wallace's marriage in Braveheart wasn't l…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 09:32 PM
3

There is no such thing as a "girlfriend" or a "boyfriend". Is there such a thing as "wife" or "husband"? They're also arbitrary institutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 08:50 PM
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If morality is not a top priority, then it might as well not exist at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 08:49 PM
4

If a married woman has no moral compunction about stepping out on her husband, then the man she sleeps with is not burdened with moral compunction either. He is not obligated to tell a man that his wife is a cheating whore. He is not obligated by some "bro-code" to turn down a woman's advances because some other fucking idiot was dumb enough to put a $10k ring on her finger. This is a statement of morality, not amorality. It's not saying "it doesn't matter whether or not it's wrong, and we won't…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 08:46 PM
2

Ever heard of moral incentives?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 02:48 PM
1

I guess a good counter-argument to that would be that, as far as I know, populations explode after the war anyway, so there's really no need to force anyone to breed. On the contrary, soldiers pretty much have to be mobilised before the war if the country wants to win it. Your opponent could say "yes, these are both equally fair or unfair, but only one of them is necessary".
/r/MensRights25/12/14 03:19 AM
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You're using "stud", which is already a positive connotation word. Negative connotation words for promiscious men are: philanderer, womanizer, man whore, sleazebag, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 10:27 PM
1

There are lots of things that aren't technically illegal because they can't be justly prosecuted Such as? I can't think of anything.
/r/MensRights04/12/14 12:51 AM
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I would not instantly agree that this is the kind of thing that should be illegal, but let's say it really should. In that case, your implications that the law should be rethought reminds me a lot of people saying "punishing women for false accusations of rape will discourage victims to come forward, so we shouldn't do it" - something that brings in a lot of outrage from this sub. If it is, as you believe, a just punishment for a real crime, it should be a law. If you think the prosecution syste…
/r/MensRights03/12/14 01:51 PM
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WOMEN: Are they really necessary for feminism? Okay, I laughed. Nobody better accuse me of only laughing at satire if I agree with it.
/r/MensRights21/11/14 09:56 AM
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Could it have had the same problem (longer lines for the female bathroom, since there are more females than males studying)?
/r/MensRights03/11/14 11:00 PM
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I study at a female-dominated faculty. The female bathroom here sometimes has big lines, while the male one is never fully occupied. Maybe they had the same problem? Seems logical to let the women into the male bathroom, but keep the female one exclusive.
/r/MensRights03/11/14 10:55 PM
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