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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Meeks Basically, women saw his mugshot and got hot over it. So, instead of dying in the prison showers or in an alleyway in a few years, the guy lives a far better life than any of us. Just because his picture so thoroughly aroused so many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:55 PM
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Nothing. But sexual attraction plays a huge role in relationships, because without it, a relationship is doomed. Indeed, which is why a man should never approach. But it usually amounts to something a man actively needs to be doing, If this is true, why did women elevate a terrible man to the highest positions of society just because his single picture made them ruin their underwear?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:46 PM
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Could you please answer the question? Why do women ignore these factors for some men but not for others? What is the variable in that which changes?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:42 PM
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Women approach Chad like that. So, women must approach men they find sexually attractive. It follows then that if she does not approach you for sex, then she does not find you sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:34 PM
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What do relationships have to do with sexual attraction? Sexual attraction is determined by the ease of which you have acquiring sexual attraction while explicitly offering the woman nothing in return. I'm not sure something needs to happen. Because for all the equality and equity and diversity, it is still on men to show interest, which is why this CMV exists and has many replies. Nope. If a man has to show interest, he's wasting his time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:28 PM
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No, I notice how women are attracted to the same sort of guys no matter what they wear, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:24 PM
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I'm not. They do not approach me, either. But for sexually attractive men? They are approached constantly. Thus, it follows that if you are not approached constantly, you are not sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:21 PM
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Yet women ignore all of these risks with some men, so, we can then say that the risks are not the problem, otherwise they would not ignore them for any man. Yet, they do, so, the only logical conclusion is that the risks of such an action are not the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:18 PM
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Women do approach regularly. They just don't approach YOU regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:03 PM
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Please answer the question. If women simply desire sex with no strings attached from most men, why is it so hard for most men to get sex with no strings attached?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:55 PM
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No, I have zero respect for anyone by default, man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:53 PM
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If women wanted sex with these men, then why don't they pursue all men for sex? Why is it such work for a man to get sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:51 PM
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It is voluntary. It's a voluntary exchange, just like me accepting a voluntary exchange of labor for money is, again, voluntary. But it does not mean I want to work nor does it mean they want to have sex with these men. If I could get money without working that's what I'd do. If Melania Trump could have gotten money without fucking Donald Trump, that's almost certainly what she would have done. Almost all male/female sexual interactions are essentially prostitution on some level. I'm sorry that …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:34 PM
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Statistically unlikely but, if you had the luck to win the genetic lottery, congratulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:28 PM
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Women do not want to have sex with most men, but they are willing to tolerate it in order to get what they want. I do not want to go to my job but I am willing to do it in order to get something else. The moment the money goes away, I stop showing up for my job.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:26 PM
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No, I am just able to apply the process of logical deduction to come to conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:17 PM
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Sexual attraction for women seems to be much more complicated than it is for men. It's not. You just seem to be confusing prostitution with sexual desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:14 PM
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Yeah, it's hard to understand that sexual attraction means someone wants to have sex with someone else. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 07:49 PM
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Sure, they want power and status (more specifically, the things they can acquire from it), but they are not sexually attracted to power and status. If the woman could get the benefits of that power/status without the ugly man, she would.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 07:46 PM
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I can't know for sure, but I can guess that since most women are not sexually attracted to fat, old men, that she is not sexually attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 07:30 PM
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It is perfectly relevant. Women will have sex with men for a great many reasons beyond sexual attraction. Or do you think Melania Trump is actually attracted to her husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 07:26 PM
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She might. Do you think that prostitutes find their customers sexually attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 07:15 PM
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Yes, but do you really want to be with a woman who finds you sexually repulsive?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 07:12 PM
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Women don’t fuck average men (on average salaries) for money. And often they fuck men who are as broke as them (no they’re not all hot) Why not? Even a man with an average salary can still buy her things and if nothing else, it is easier to survive on two salaries than one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 07:10 PM
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Yes. And since women are choosing to have sex with many other men who are not Chad, they are sexually attracted to those other men. Are prostitutes attracted to their customers? After all, they have sex with them. So whenever you see an attractive man, there’s a gang of 30 women crowding around him? Every woman within line of sight, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:52 PM
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You misunderstand how sexual attraction works. I suggest you research it more. Because it seems like you have a very specific example in your head of how it HAS to work. But there’s multiple ways of expressing and observing sexual attraction. No, there's not. Sexual attraction means they want to have sex with you. That’s a bullshit rationalisation that has no basis in reality. Did you not see my post on it? Women not being held accountable for anything they do is a well-documented thing. Some wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:41 PM
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Women are more about commitment. Not true at all. Women love NSA sex with men they just met.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:30 PM
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If she does not treat you like she treated a man she finds sexually attractive, then why would you assume she finds you sexually attractive? Yeah, and most men would immediately jump Gal Godot’s bones with serious vigor if they had the chance, does that mean those men are not sexually attracted to their average-looking girlfriends? Most men would immediately fuck their average-looking girlfriends, too. Most women would not because they do not find them sexually attractive. All the men who don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:27 PM
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Women being "alone" is different than men being "alone." A woman who is single or alone is getting all of her social and sexual needs met. Unless a man is Chad, if he is single the only company he gets is rosy palm and her five sisters. If a woman did not have ready access to sniff Chad's ass, we'd see them snap just like men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:15 PM
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She immediately jumped Chad's bones. Since that is what she does when she is sexually attractive, the fact that she did not do it to you indicates she must not find you sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:12 PM
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Nature has dictated that men are the chasers, which is fine if we as a society accept the good with the bad with that setup. Unattractive men are the chasers. Between women and attractive men, women are the pursuers. After all, women are abundant while sexually attractive men are not. That means women have to do all the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:33 PM
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Why would you want to be with a woman that does not find you sexually attractive? Why not just hire a hooker?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:31 PM
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Men do not have to escalate. If women find you sexually attractive, they will do it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:45 AM
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But from reading the experiences of the guys who post on this sub and a forever alone sub and other similar subs, I often read about guys who say that their lack of success and lack of experience with women has basically shot their confidence and also don’t don’t know how to play the game of seduction, with all it’s subtleties in the form of body language, nonverbal cues, double entendres and hints. He thinks that seduction requires any of that lol Beyond that, if you are physically attractive t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:38 AM
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No, but the point from the person you were responding to was how female entitlement is treated entirely differently by society. These are some examples of female entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 11:44 PM
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Can you direct me to the Council of the Incels then? There must be a hierarchy and organization for there to be a unified platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 11:43 PM
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We're entitled to equal representation in these high-power/high-paying careers. We're entitled to equal representation in the political sphere. We're entitled to equal pay for working less. We're entitled to free birth control. we're entitled to free abortions!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 10:29 PM
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There is no unified incel platform. Clearly you're just reading what people who have never actually done any real research on them have written. That or you simply believe the trolls that are there to get a reaction out of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 10:26 PM
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That isn't "entitlement." If, hypothetically, low-caste men burned society down because they didn't get what they want, that is simply a natural progression of things. Society is not entitled to support from everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 10:25 PM
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No one thought looks didn't matter at all. What we weren't told is that your appearance is all that matters to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 10:21 PM
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You shouldn't feel sympathy for any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:06 AM
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Who says I am trying to fight anything? No one will ever allow men to be victims of anything, so the only solution is to treat women the exact same.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:32 AM
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No one says these women just disappear. We all know they just hang around waiting to sniff Chad's ass for a decade or two. ​ > It is not like 80% of men are just out of luck for life. Yes, it is. Most men will never experience what it's like to have a woman sexually desire you. >Second, everyone has a “type” which is particular to their tastes. So a guy who may be a 3-4 to many will be a top 10% to another. "Teehee yeah Becky women are so diverse in our tastes. You like tall, dominant Chads who …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:28 AM
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No, it's just that I believe in equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:24 AM
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It has become a major racial issue, yes, despite the correlation between being murdered by the police being much stronger based on gender than it is race.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:23 AM
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What logic? You said women don't magically forget personality and I provided you a very big example of how thousands and thousands of them did just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:54 AM
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My point is that if women did not all lose their minds because of his picture, this guy likely would already have been stabbed to death in prison or an alley somewhere. But since women are obsessed with his particular facial shape, they forgot his enormously terrible personality and instead gave him a life far better than any of us have.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:47 AM
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The whole way he got noticed to become a model was because women collectively ruined their panties thanks to his sharp jawline and apparently his stellar personality of being a convicted felon.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:41 AM
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If women don't magically forget bad traits just because he is hot, then why did women forget all this man's bad traits and then turn him into a rich person?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:33 AM
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Women don't magically forget bad traits because a man is hot. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:24 AM
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Yes. The only thing that matters is you get what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:01 AM
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It's not. It's just that these men are sexually unattractive. If they weren't, then the women would have pursued them and escalated the friendship to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 11:56 PM
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because of the dangers that come with it. I'd buy that if women didn't suddenly forget all about that the moment a hot guy comes along. because we are heavily judged on our looks Men are far more judged on looks than women. More importantly, men are judged by their physical appearance based off immutable aspects of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 11:45 PM
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Women don't care either way. If you're Chad, she's into you no matter what you do. I would say it is probably rarer for Chad to not have social media, though. If you're not Chad, she isn't going to feel any attraction no matter what you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 10:51 PM
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Ah, ok. I read it as you justifying it, so, apologies for being accusatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:57 PM
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Oh no, older women get a taste of what most men feel their entire lives!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:54 PM
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And also, most importantly, is that gaining confidence will not gain you reassurance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:53 PM
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You are missing the point entirely. Sexual relationships and platonic relationships fulfill different needs. You can't fulfill the platonic need with just sexual relationships and vice versa. Very few human beings will be happy with no sex. A lack of either can make someone very lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:52 PM
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The ratio is actually far higher than that. There may be one attractive man for every thousand attractive women. It is why Chad has it so easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:50 PM
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That is like asking why I should eat if I can just drink instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:39 PM
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You should only help people who would return the favor. I would never expect a woman to ever do anything to assist me should I need it, thus, I would never help some random woman for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:37 PM
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Because sexual relationships are something that humans are inherently built to desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:36 PM
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Because as a woman, validation from men is a given just like oxygen or sunlight.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:36 PM
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Most people are ok with various forms of discrimination against men because of all sorts of justifications, generally involving violent behavior. For instance, you said that it's a legitimate concern and thus justified to turn down men because they can be violent. Would you say that turning down black people for the same reason is also justified?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:32 PM
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No one blames individual men. Lol yeah they do. That's why no one cares to help the majority of homeless (men), the majority of people in prison or killed by cops (men), the majority of people who die at work (men). Because men are attributed hyperagency and women hypoagency. We should treat men and women equally. So, that would mean either giving men hypoagency like women or giving women hyperagency like men. The former is never going to happen so the latter is the only solution. So, I think we…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:01 PM
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No, I simply mean presuming that women are at fault for everything bad that happens to them which is what society does to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:54 PM
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We hold men responsible for things in which they had no choice or say all the time, so I fail to see why we should not hold women to the same standard. I simply believe in equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:27 PM
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The problem is that the exact same reasoning would NEVER fly with most people if you changed "men" to "black people" or some other immutable characteristic. If you all were logically consistent then it would be a much easier pill to swallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:21 PM
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Maybe it is the action of those patients that caused it, then. We should hold women to the same levels of hyperagency as we hold men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:19 PM
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Someone doing something unusual and out of the ordinary for you often is an indicator of romantic interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:18 PM
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See? This right here is why men should never have any empathy for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:17 PM
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You made being human about someone else desiring sex from them. You even said “congrats!“ to drill it home. No. How women view most men sexually is an effect, not the cause, of that lack of empathy. How you got that other part from what I wrote frankly boggles the mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:04 PM
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Remember, when a woman refers to "men" what they actually mean is "Chad." And of course Chad doesn't do anything for women. Why would he? Each of those women has thousands of replacements waiting in the wings.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 06:46 PM
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Sorry, no one was talking about penetrating you. We were simply talking about the lack of empathy that women have for men. Could you please try reading again or if you are unable, seeking remedial reading comprehension classes?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 06:42 PM
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Women see every human as human. No, they don't. Humans have empathy for other humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 06:13 PM
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That does not mean no men are pursuing her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:22 PM
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Women are not the only ones pursued. Men are pursued, when they are sexually attractive. For these attractive men (Chads), the dynamics switch: women pursue and men select. Women hate that Chad treats women like women treat men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:57 PM
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Thank you again! You are so generous. Not having to go far to find examples really helps. For the men that read this, remember, women in general hate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:54 PM
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If you're in the U.S., men experience the symptoms of racism far worse than women. The biggest example is how gender correlates with the police gunning you down far more than race.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:48 PM
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It's great because you make a post about a lack of empathy and then proceed to provide very good examples of people lacking empathy for men like this post! Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:45 PM
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Hello everyone, when we talk about a lack of empathy, this post and poster right here are very good examples of why.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:40 PM
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Hence "almost zero." However, I would wager money that your wife's half-sister has groups of men pursuing her too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:38 PM
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Women rate men on two scales, though most only qualify for one. The first is a binary state: Is the man human (Chad) or not? Most men fail here as they are not rated to be human/Chad. There is more nuance to how women rate Chads against each other but ultimately, for most men, that doesn't matter. So, it's very easy to know where you lie on this hierarchy for most of us: Do women regularly and explicitly approach you for sex? If yes, congratulations! You are a human being in the eyes of women. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 02:58 AM
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You misunderstand. "Creepy" in the female lexicon simply means "anyone not Chad." Just like "men" means "Chad."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 08:42 AM
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As I've said over and over, women will do anything and everything for Chad, so a woman expecting you to put in any effort is not actually attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 08:37 AM
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That's wrong, though. All women will approach gigachad and if you don't agree, you clearly have never been around attractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 08:18 AM
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Women would like a long emotional relationship with Chad, yes. They would prefer to be single than to have one with any other man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 07:51 AM
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Also, single women can get their sexual needs met by very attractive men. Single women have rosy palm and her five sisters.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 07:24 AM
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Apologies, I thought you were someone else and got my replies mixed up. So, I will ask you this question: Since all women have had sex with Chad simply because he is present, with no effort on his part, why do you believe her not treating you like him (a man she finds sexually attractive) means that she does not find you sexually attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 11:40 PM
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I can't speak for everyone, but I certainly would like one. Hell, I'd even be happy to take care of her so she wouldn't have to work a day in her life (and have the resources where I could do it). The problem is that I'm not going to keep a woman around who simply is after those resources. If she wouldn't fuck my brains out while I was poor with no prospects of anything else, then I might as well just get a prostitute and save time/effort. Since I am not a gigachad, the only women who ever might…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 11:00 PM
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Do you believe that a prostitute is attracted to her john? After all, she has sex with them too. And marriage has nothing to do with sexual attraction. It is simply a transaction: sex for resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 10:41 PM
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Could you please answer the questions? Or at least admit you are wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 10:36 PM
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It sounds like you had to put in effort to talk to her and effort to escalate sexually. So, no. Why would you believe she finds you sexually attractive when it is a certainty she slept with Chad who had to do nothing but be present?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 10:23 PM
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If he had to initiate or escalate to get to sex at all, no, she is not. If she was sexually attracted, why did she not treat him like gigachad? men are supposed to do the initiating Untrue entirely. If this were true, then why do the most desirable men never have to initiate?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 10:12 PM
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I am arguing that if she does not approach you, she does not find you sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:55 PM
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Not many, of course. But what it says is that when women find you sexually attractive, they will do all of that. So, it follows then that if they don't do that, they do not find you sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:50 PM
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They are on it for a few days, find some male models to screw them senseless, then delete their accounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:25 PM
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The idea that women will just approach you is a fantasy idea. It is not. If you are sexually attractive, women will approach, initiate, and escalate all interactions. If you aren't, they won't. I've spent enough time around actual gigachads to see the truth of that. They were approached, constantly (often sexually assaulted) and propositioned for sex by women of all ages, personalities, etc, within minutes of meeting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:22 PM
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If women don't come to you, then they don't want you. If you have to put in effort, they don't want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 08:21 PM
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Like you see a girl and you’re thinking I have to neg her, then emotional rollercoaster, then detach from her then pay the bill, then compliment the waitress and flirt with the waitress then do this that and the other…. When does it stop? If you have to do any of that, then you are not good looking. The only game an attractive man needs to have is to be present.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 08:16 PM
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just rolling my eyes at you. I am no 'tolerating' his height, I don't gaf. Yet you call it 'unimpressive'. But I have good news for you too. Your height is not the reason you can't get a woman interested in you. No. I'm actually above the 6' cutoff for women to consider you a human. They aren't interested in me because my face is not the correct shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 08:10 PM
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No? If women wanted most men, then why, as soon as they are allowed to do whatever they please with no consequences, that they proceed to fuck only the same tiny percentage of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:37 AM
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People tolerate things all the time to get other things that they desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:36 AM
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What does marriage have to do with anything? Marriage is a transaction: sex for resources. Attraction has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 11:48 PM
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And as result, most women want… 90% of men sent to death camps!? Yes? That is how the process works, especially when the dehumanized group has desires or interests that run in conflict to the dehumanizing group.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 11:27 PM
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Who even has said that having sex with the average man is disgusting? Women. After all, it does not take much research to find women talking about how men below 6'0" are disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 11:26 PM
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The minimum, at least was, 6'0" though my guess is that increasing competition between men and increasing female standards likely has raised the bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 11:02 PM
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Sure, but in some way, you had to pay for it. Chad does not. Indeed, Chad often is paid by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 10:51 PM
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Some of the only satisfaction I get in life comes from knowing that Chad often treats women as badly as women treat most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 10:49 PM
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No, it's just that women never wanted most men, they just needed them for survival. Also going to the gym and even getting jacked does not make you attractive. For instance, if you're jacked but 5'11, you're still inherently sexually unattractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 10:29 PM
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But does it though? This old hag was prominent in the 70’s. You do know that she has heavily influenced mainstream feminism, yes? The sort of thing that most women subscribe to? I also don't need to, I assume, state that books like the SCUM Manifesto are still common reading, too. The existence of crazy women is not great evidence that “women would largely be happy to consign most men to death camps if they could get away with it.” But they would. They have already done the first step, after all…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 10:14 PM
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It was not an outlier group of women that elevated him from a convict with a life expectancy of a few years (mind you, a violent one too) to a man living a far better life than any of us simply because of the shape of his face. To a woman, Jeremy Meeks proves it is pretty clear that a man can become appealing, even if he is a terrible, violent person, just because he has certain facial features.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 10:03 PM
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Well, the fact that prominent women in the feminist side of things can advocate for the culling of 90% of the male population yet not be dismissed as genocidal maniacs says a lot. To a woman, sexual attractiveness is morality. If you're hot, you're good. Men are the same way, simply to a lesser extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 09:21 PM
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An ordinary looking man can become instantly appealing if he's smart, funny, and personable. Maybe for you, but most women are perfectly happy to start gushing over a guy and turn him into a billionaire just because his face is shaped a certain way
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 09:15 PM
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I knew this already, but it still made me feel ill. Who women are is not important; how women look is important. That’s all they need. Don't worry, women feel exactly the same way about men. The difference is that most men find most women's appearance to be attractive but the opposite is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 09:12 PM
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It is binary, at least when determining if you are Chad (sexually attractive) or not. Of course, there are some Chads she will desire more than others. When given the choice between a Chad that is 6' even and one that is 6'5" and who beats the shit out of her regularly, of course she is going to pick the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 09:11 PM
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You are correct. However, women would largely be happy to consign most men to death camps if they could get away with it. The depths of hatred the female holds for a man who has the gall to be below six feet or have a face not shaped in the way she likes is limitless.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 09:10 PM
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They are in front of the mirror for Chad's attention, not for male attention generally. After all, women only desire Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:50 AM
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A wife is far more expensive than getting a maid to clean your place, getting meals sent to you, so on and so forth. Men don’t have these things. Guys can go all day without looking in a mirror and have to gain A LOT of weight before their pants even feel tight. Not true. Beauty standards (And the penalties for not meeting them) are far more strict and harsh on men than they are on women. A man who does not meet beauty standards will likely never have a woman desire sex with him for the sake of …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:45 AM
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You have to have something the other side wants in order to have leverage. Most men have nothing most women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:26 AM
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If the guy pays, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:24 AM
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Yes, I get it. It's a drastic solution. I toy with the idea myself but there's always lots of bad possibilities when it comes to toying with your internal chemistry. But other times? I realize how pleasant it must be, being free from a hunger that can never be sated nor satisfied, or in my case as well, needs that cannot be met.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:23 AM
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True freedom would simply be to no longer have a sex drive. Once you are freed from the curse of the male libido, then you have a real REASON to not care what women think.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:09 AM
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Yes, pictures won't keep her interested when the prospect of sniffing Chad's ass is there. I fail to see why you think this is some revelation? You do know that the way women treat attractive men is worlds away from how they treat every other man, yes? The fact that they are 100% willing to meet you ASAP means that they are turned on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 02:30 AM
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The halo effect is the psychological phenomenon where people attribute positive things to attractive people simply because they are attractive The opposite of that happens, too: unattractive people receive negative attributes in the minds of people who meet them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:45 AM
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Sure, you do. Humans in general do, the difference is that to men, most women are some level of attractive while to women, almost all men are completely unattractive. This is why both the halo and horns effects are a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:42 AM
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Which makes me curious of what kind of message that sends to younger men: "Attractive women are for sale." This has always been the case, just remove "attractive" from the statement. How many years have we been telling boys to get a good career so a woman will love them? All women are open to selling sexual access. The only thing that varies is the price.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 11:53 PM
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You are correct. Women have always hated 99% of men for being sexually unattractive. It's just in the past, running their mouth might have gotten them hurt. Now that they have largely been removed from any sort of accountability, why wouldn't they express what they truly think?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 11:49 PM
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It is a very representative sample. Almost all women use Tinder. They are only on it for a few days because they find a few male models to sleep with and delete it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 11:08 PM
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Can you justify any of your conclusions through anything that isn't OLD? OLD is an objective measurement of a person's attractiveness to the opposite sex. (And you can see that men who are 5'11" tend to have plenty of luck in real-life dating lol.) Sure, if they pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 10:44 PM
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A lot of men do get to "pick", As an absolute number? Sure. 1% of the population is still a lot of people but as a proportion? No. notably whether you're fun to be around and whether you make them feel comfortable I am physically unattractive, so no to both of them. It's funny though how much attention I got and how apparently engaging my company was when I changed my tinder profile pic to some really hot guy. I guess it helped my personality shine through! I would wager that you yourself have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 04:59 PM
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FGM is a religious practice as well, the difference is it is done to women so people actually care. Tinder isn't a good example of who gets noticed due to gender ratios. Gender ratios do not matter. If there were 100 women for every man but these men were all 5'11", then they still would have no luck. Tinder is an objective view of your sexual attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 04:55 PM
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Being envious of someone who gets what you desire simply because of the genetic lottery is perfectly reasonable. Being bitter because you are treated like a sub-human is also perfectly reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 07:33 AM
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That is fine that you don't know it, but that's how life works for most men: romance is something we do because women do not find us sexually attractive at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 07:32 AM
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All women. Sexually attractive men are rare, so, women generally cannot control themselves around them. The amount of outright sexual assault some legitimate Chads I knew when younger had to deal with was eye-opening. Constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 05:48 AM
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Less attractive does not mean they are not attractive. As I said before, that you are a woman means dating, love, and sex are all things you can simply be the recipient of.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 05:47 AM
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If that were true, then why are men more physically built and capable of violence? If women did not select for it, then we would not be that way. Let us also not forget the universal height fetish that women also have, as a stand-in for violent capability.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 04:50 AM
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That does not change their in-built sexual desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 04:40 AM
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No, most women punish men for it. Otherwise, the trend would not apply like it does. That is how statistics work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:44 AM
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So a very tiny percentage of women want empathetic men. Why should men care? My original statement that the world punishes empathetic men still holds true. It is not a choice, it is based on feedback the world (especially women) give men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:40 AM
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A significant number then must be rewarding them. So, women, in general, reward violent behavior with sex as we've established. Why then do you say that women want people who behave oppositely to what women reward? How is that at all a logical thing to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:37 AM
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We're not talking about the women here. We're talking about men. If women largely want empathetic men, then you would think that such traits would result in more sexual partners, yes? It is no different than how peahens want peacocks with particularly vibrant tailfeathers. That is the reason peacocks even look like they do: such traits are rewarded with reproduction. So, if women don't want violent men, then why are violent men being rewarded with reproductive opportunities?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:34 AM
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See there it is again. I'm telling you that's something a lot of women appreciate That's fine but why would I believe you when statistically speaking, what you are saying is not true? if it's true I would imagine it simply comes down to being more discerning. Most men do not get to pick partners. It is women that do the selection, not men. A lot actually don't Estimates of physical strength determined over 70% of men's bodily attractiveness. Additional analyses showed that tallness and leanness …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:30 AM
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Wym why fuck them? To have sex and they are willing? So, there must be sexual attraction there. Maybe not much, but it's there. Why don't they just fuck another dude if they can fuck people they do not find attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:22 AM
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Please answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:21 AM
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If women want gentle, empathetic men, then why do violent men have more sexual success?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:18 AM
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that doesn’t mean they are attracted to them Yes, it does. If not, why have sex with them? being a bbw would be mainstream, There are plenty of fat onlyfans models making plenty of money. You seem to be mistaking "less attractive" for "not attractive." Yes, some women are less attractive than others but no women are wholly unattractive to men like how most men are wholly unattractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:15 AM
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That's your own perspective, not an overall perspective No, that's simply how it works. Humans, as a group, are often somewhat predictable. And yes, you can generalize what men find attractive: most women. Obviously there are going to be things that are commonly sought after, such as intelligence and being able to have a good conversation. Those aren't sought after. A strong jawline and visible abs are sought after. If women wanted intelligence, why does a higher IQ correlate with being a virgin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:12 AM
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You can’t group men all together because men are stratified as a group from 1-10 and their levels of desperation differ. Yes, men are demonstrably more varied in what they find sexually attractive than women. So it is more difficult to group them. You can however group men in that almost all of us have difficulty finding sexual partners to some degree or another that would be completely alien for a woman. Every man doesn’t find every woman attractive. No, but every man finds, at the very least, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:05 AM
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"Intelligence and physical violence emerged as being especially likely to boost sex partner accumulation for the number of lifetime sex partners and nonrelationship partners in men." Sorry, you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:38 AM
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That does not mean that women are gentle.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:34 AM
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Not the ones who want well rounded and emotionally intelligent children So, none of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:33 AM
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Women are not gentle and empathetic naturally. They are just as violent as men, though their violence is kept in check by the fact that men are better at it. There's a reason lesbian relationships have such high instances of domestic violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:27 AM
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Women are cowards because they behave in a cowardly fashion. That's it. They might learn to rise above their fears if they were forced, as men do, but they are not. I, however, believe in equality thus women should be judged by the same standards as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:26 AM
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There isn't a point. It's the same stupid talking point that women use to downplay the fact that men are murdered at vastly higher rates than women. This is why men do not and should not care about bad things happening to women: women certainly never will care about bad things happening to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:25 AM
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Because the world (especially women) punishes men who are gentle and empathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:21 AM
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But it is that way, it isn't going to change, and women are the primary group that says it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:19 AM
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So why post that it's different because men are the ones killing other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:18 AM
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Women are largely allowed to wallow in their own cowardice and neuroticism because they do not get it beaten out of them like men do, so, it should be expected that what they say is basically meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:17 AM
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Does a murder not matter just because someone of the same demographic group as the victim committed it? Stop with the stupid logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:16 AM
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Because the response to our trauma is "man up and get over it".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:15 AM
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Reality: A 5'11" man looked at me and smiled on my way to the store this morning. What she posts on social media: Omg I was almost assaulted and raped today! Be careful out there, ladies!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:13 AM
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Yes. When I chadfished, I regularly received addresses as the first, unsolicited message from women. All concerns about safety are thrown out the window by women when there's even a chance of licking Chad's asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:13 AM
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The problem with that is while gamers have wildly varying tastes in games, women do not have wildly varying tastes in men. Goth Becky just wants a tall, muscular, dominant Chad who happens to wear a lot of black, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:11 AM
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The difference is that all women get far more attention than all but the top tiny percentage of men, thus, by your logic, it is not surprising that women in general are far less humble than men as a population.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:10 AM
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Women should be held to equal standards as men, and if the genders were switched, we'd call the man a coward. So, it is important to call women cowards in situations like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:08 AM
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It's important to judge women on equal standards as men, so, calling out women on their general cowardice is both important and highly feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:07 AM
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And even in my own anecdotal view, the men who just want to use someone as a "human jerk sock" are very, very good at hiding it. No, they aren't. Anyone with women in their social group likely has watched woman after woman go after the known womanizer, despite the warnings of everyone else, and then wonder "Well how did he fool me like that?!" when they get pumped and dumped. The only reasonable conclusion is women love random pump and dumps, but only if it's Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:06 AM
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I would believe you that it is more natural for women to be risk adverse if all that didn't go out the window just for a chance to sniff Chad's ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 02:03 AM
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Men's standards for women are so low that a mere compliment is enough for them. But it's not just that, from childhood, men aren't taught or told that they deserve the best for them, men aren't taught to have standards, the summary of what men are taught is basically: Nor should they be, because to teach them that they deserve the best is simply to set them up for disappointment. Secondly, for most men, having standards for women means going without.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 01:35 AM
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I wonder why we have such different experiences? You're either a woman (who has an easier time than all but the most attractive men) or an attractive man. Male success in sex is not a smooth slope but instead is exponential: the top guys get almost all of the female attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 01:30 AM
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No one sees the market as a whole. Yes, they do. Every seller and buyer does as they participate. women are not a monolith. No, women are human and groups of humans behave in similar, often predictable ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 01:28 AM
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It is in human nature to hurt those who are below you. Since almost all women are above men on the social totem pole, it again makes sense that women as a group would be cruel to men as a group.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 01:00 AM
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Yes, that is why no one seems to care that men kill themselves far more than women, men are more likely to be homeless than women, that we practice male genital mutilation (at least here in the U.S.) very commonly. The conclusion must be that women do not largely see men as human. Maybe you have low standards but most men don't notice women who aren't at least cute, younger than them or about their age, and slim. Maybe you have low standards but most men don't notice women who aren't at least cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 12:44 AM
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Yes, men as a group pursue almost all women and almost all women have groups of men pursuing them. For one period in my life, I asked out every woman I encountered that I found attractive but then, since there are big social costs for men to initiate, it is better to simply let the woman do it. They pursue Chad, thus, they must pursue men they desire. Then it follows that if they do not pursue you, they do not want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 12:33 AM
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Most women experience no physical arousal either from most men, but the best measure of whether someone finds someone else attractive is whether the first one pursues the other. Since women pursue very few men, then women must find only a few men to be sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 12:30 AM
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All? No. There are some horribly disfigured ones out there. But they are a statistical anomaly. ALL women have groups of men who are into them. The reason you cannot see that is you do not register most men as human beings. Your statement is correct if you replace "men" with "Chad" which is generally the case when women say something about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 12:22 AM
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Could you please try reading my statement again? You know, the one where I (generally) agreed with you? Best regards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 12:08 AM
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Yes, the root cause is that they are ugly, but people naturally ascribe negative traits to ugly men. It has nothing to do with their actions, but they may rationalize it later by thinking he was dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 11:58 PM
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If women care so much about interpersonal stuff, why are almost all of them willing to go fuck Chad behind the dumpster at 3am after meeting him on Tinder 20 minutes prior?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 11:54 PM
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You can disagree all you want, but there's a reason it is far harder for men to get sex and relationships. Almost all men are 100% sexually repulsive to women. Do highly attractive women have more options than less attractive women? Certainly, but almost ALL women are sexually attractive to almost all men, to one degree or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 11:52 PM
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You could show them a pic of a hot guy and they’ll be like meh. They need to know what he sounds like, how he carries himself, is he popular, do other women want him, how does he smell, can he take the lead, is he making lots of money, is he powerful, is he protective, is he funny and socially calibrated etc. To be frank, only unattractive men believe this. If this were the case, then women wouldn't have turned Jeremy Meeks from a guy who had a likely life expectancy of five more years into a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 11:50 PM
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No, the majority of women are, to one degree or another, sexually attractive to men. The majority of men, on the other hand, are not sexually attractive to women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 11:49 PM
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But no one really has an objective view of the whole dating scene like that. We're not talking about any one person's view. We're talking about the market as a whole. Do you get what you want? Then you are high value. Do you not? You are low value. If you rebranded yourself a bit, or associated with different people, you'd be thrown in with a whole other crowd, and just like that your "market value" has changed. For a woman, yes. For men, no, as almost all women want exactly the same thing in me…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 11:46 PM
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They 100% think attractive men are harmless. We as humans ascribe positive traits to attractive people and negative ones to unattractive people, no matter their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 11:45 PM
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A curse. Having a male sex drive without being Chad is being cursed with an insatiable hunger for people that do not and will never desire you like you desire them. It is also a very easy way for people to exploit you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 11:24 PM
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If women didn't get hot over trash men just because of the shape of their face, then this man would not have gone from convict who would likely be dead within a few years to living a far better life than any of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 11:04 PM
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It's a magic combination of two things: A. Someone who is attractive enough and B. Someone who appears willing. That's all men need! Women only need one of those things: A. Chad arouses women simply by his presence. The difference is that women ONLY find Chad sexually attractive. Women have a different arousal mechanism and it takes someone who is confident, worthy, self respecting, a leader who she can feel safe with to be her sexual self. lol no
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 10:49 PM
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Women do initiate all the time, but only with Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 10:44 PM
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Women never lose attraction for Chad. What you are talking about only happens because women settle with men they do not find sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 09:30 PM
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If you think women are asexual or close to it, make a Tinder account with a male model's pictures. Women are more pathetically thirsty (for Chad) than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 08:49 PM
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Women use OLD to interact with strangers all the time so long as the stranger is hot. It was insane how many women were sending me their phone numbers and addresses as a first message when I was chadfishing. Safety is only something they are worried about with ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 07:52 PM
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You cannot get rid of "high value" because that is determined by the market, not by people. If the market says you are high value, then you are high value. If the market says you are low value, then you are low value. It is an objective measurement of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 07:01 PM
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Inertness – treating the person as lacking in agency or activity It's funny because women do this to themselves whenever it is convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 06:04 PM
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This comment is one reason men should dismiss any struggles women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 06:01 PM
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This world does suck, yes. But you can't change it. Even the suggestion that women might be simply as shallow as men is something people cannot even accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:13 PM
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No, they find transactional relationships. That is how humans work. If you're pretty, everything you do is good. If you're not, then everything you do is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:12 PM
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The amount of women increasing does not matter if none of those women desire most men, which they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 10:11 PM
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It has nothing to do with values. I am simply not attractive enough to elicit love in a woman, like most men. That's just the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 09:44 PM
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I'm not talking about gender roles. I am simply stating that I have no desire to be with a woman who does not desire me and since most women do not desire most men, such a thing is very unlikely. If I found a woman who stayed around because she wanted me to provide for her, why not just lease women instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 09:35 PM
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If you fix womens issues with dating, then the ratio will fix itself. No, it won't, because women simply do not desire men like men desire women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 09:02 PM
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I could get a romantic partner. However, like most men, I have to pay for it in some way. Why would I want to do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 09:01 PM
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So if some men are hotter than others, why can't we have a colloquial name for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 08:38 PM
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So do you really believe some men aren't far more attractive to women than others?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 08:13 PM
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Why would they do that when they can hop on Tinder and live their fantasies in real life that night?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 07:08 PM
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Well, if you think women's only valuable attribute is their pussy then women are gonna only see you as a wallet. Where did I say that? My ideal would be an actual equal partnership with a woman who would stick with me, money or not, but women do not want that. Men that sell their bodies look a certain way because of beauty standards They look a certain way because that is what women are willing to buy. If women were willing to buy access to a wider variety of men, you would see a wider variety o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 07:04 PM
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Because women are driven insane by a specific shape of facial bones, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 06:52 PM
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They work for a few men at the top of the pyramid. They are awful for the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 06:51 PM
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Why do we have to restructure society to help women? Why not restructure society to help men by letting women who cheat and have children starve to death?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 06:49 PM
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No one. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 06:48 PM
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If you think female sexuality is mental, go Chadfish on Tinder and come back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 06:47 PM
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Plenty of guys who don't do well on tinder can have a regular sex life. Sure, if they pay for it. But at that point, why not just go and get actual hookers? The woman only sees you as a disposable wallet, to be cast aside the moment a better opportunity comes along. And internet dating might be the most common way of finding a partner nowadays but it's not the only one. For the most part, it is. Mind you, that survey is from before COVID. My bf is what your ppl would call a soyboy, he's 5'3" at …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 06:42 PM
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Of course through Tinder and online dating it's gonna be exclusively about looks. And Tinder is an objective way to determine your attractiveness to the opposite sex. It is, quite literally, an entirely free market. If you're attractive, you get matches. If not, you don't. Simple as that. If you don't do well on Tinder, you're not attractive. You're really downplaying how personality matters. "Personality" is just your physical appearance.. We simply judge people who are physically attractive to…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 06:09 PM
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You're pulling statistics out of your ass and talking about Chad shit. Guys, unless you are really hot you are probably better off not wasting your time on Tinder — a quantitative socio-economic study https://web.archive.org/web/20180316224430/https://theblog.okcupid.com/your-looks-and-your-inbox-8715c0f1561e?gi=2ebda7bc8be3 "As you can see from the gray line, women rate an incredible 80% of guys as worse-looking than medium." Oh and this thread which I am pretty sure is what got Tinder stats ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:51 PM
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More like a bunch of women having casual sex as often as they can with a really attractive guy until they either press for more or he gets bored of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:07 PM
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How typical, when the woman can't argue with the logic, she goes back to the one valuable thing about herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:06 PM
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Are we ONLY attracted to these type of guys? Yes. Literally who are you to impose or assume what ALL women like? Someone with the ability to read statistics. If all women were shallow, vapid, frat boy fuckers then how do you explain me? It's amazing how many women you meet that claim to be special and unique despite the statistical likelihood of that being true is close to zero. You're saying this stuff because you're probably not conventionally attractive There's no such thing as "conventionall…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:58 PM
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Yes, you do. They aren't like the old time ones with the Sultan who has a bunch of women locked up in the seraglio, but there are indeed "soft" harems everywhere. That's why Tinder is so successful, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:54 PM
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I asked you how/why it is unethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 01:47 PM
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The difference is that women are ONLY attracted to the tall, athletic guy with cheekbones. Of course men are attracted to those women you say but they are attracted to most other women, too. I've seen enough super hot chicks dating average (or even below average) dudes and I'm sure you have too. I could go out with a 10/10 woman right now, but only if I pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 01:46 PM
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Having to share a man makes him a lot less appealing. Which says a lot about how women view normal men that they still prefer sharing a really hot guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 01:44 PM
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There is less stress on men to be traditionally masculine. Unless you want things like relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:47 AM
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Why is it unethical? We treat men and women differently all the time and generally that benefits women. I'm perfectly happy restricting Chad, too, by the way. I don't benefit from him being able to do as he pleases.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:47 AM
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Idk maybe I’m Super naive but I feel like if anyone put 100% effort into finding a partner they could do it pretty quickly, no? Women, yes. Most men, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:22 AM
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You weren't that attractive, then. Women will absolutely kiss the ass of and pay the way for truly attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:21 AM
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Gender roles are more challenged. For women. Alternative relationship styles and casual dating are more accessible through modern internet. For women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:18 AM
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Are you saying you believe the negativity on PPD is exclusive to the men who post here? How do you account for the similarity on TRP? Have you seriously never seen these attitudes outside of Reddit? Because most people outside of places like this subscribe wholeheartedly to the normal bluepill ideas of women. Women can do no wrong, women are wonderful, etc. Stop this necessity and there would really be free love. Nope, women will never find most men attractive. There's no way to change this. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:04 AM
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None of the men in PPD are the men women care about, so, yes, they can and do have as much sex as they want. These aren't coincidences. The less society coerces women to repress, the more their libido seems to "exist", but we're not even close to 100% yet. Yes, and their libido only exists for Chad as we see. The biggest lie of the 20th century was that most men would benefit from free love. In all practicality I am 100% for restricting female sexuality because why not? I don't benefit from them…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 03:21 AM
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Relationships start as hookups. that is why you can't order sex like you can pizza. Yes, you can, if you're Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 03:20 AM
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Their intentions are to do anything that will result in a gain for themselves. That is not necessarily bad for anyone else in theory, but in practice is almost always is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:28 AM
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Please be upfront, however, that almost zero women fall into the "ugly" category. There is a group of men out there for you if you're a woman. On the other hand, almost all men fall into the "below average" category.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:26 AM
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They are receptive to male attention. They aren't receptive to YOUR attention. So what is a guy supposed to do? Get hot. That's the only thing that matters in life. If you're short, consider leg lengthening surgery. Get in the gym, get a good steroid regime. If your face isn't attractive, consider more plastic surgery. I will repeat: the only thing that matters is being hot. If you are hot, women will come to you. If you are not, then it does not matter what you do or where you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:25 AM
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What percentage of women are on Tinder again? At any one time? A small number because they meet a few male models after a day or three then remove their accounts. How many have used online dating at one point or another? Below age 40, I'd say all of them use it when they are looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:23 AM
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Yes, and a woman marrying someone because he can provide resources is also transactional. So, what is the difference? Some hookers do the girlfriend thing, too, so there can even be a connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:03 AM
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So have you ever slept with a prostitute? Do you believe that prostitutes "really like" their Johns?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 01:55 AM
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Because it is the only one that has value. Female sexual attraction is rare and in high demand, thus, it has value. Anyone can get any woman they want simply by paying for her so, thus, it has no value.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 01:48 AM
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Correct. They may get sex but it is never because their partner simply desires sex with them, instead the partner is getting something else out of the deal which allows them to tolerate sex with an unattractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 01:40 AM
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Not true at all. Female sexuality limits itself to only very specific men, whereas men clearly are, as a population, attracted to most women. Women are 100% free to have as much casual sex now as they want and instead of every man getting some slice of the pie, it's a few guys get the entire bakery and the rest of us get nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 01:39 AM
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No, I am telling you that their "demisexuality" suddenly vanishes as soon as the guy looks a certain way. They don't need any sort of connection to want to bang him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 01:06 AM
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No, all women are as sexual as men but only for Chad. That is how Jeremy Meeks went from a guy who was likely to die in some gutter to living an amazing life simply because of the shape of his face. If you think men are thirsty, go watch how women behave around an attractive guy. It's even more pathetic than male simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:29 AM
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Yes, because women make an account, find a few models to sleep with, and then get rid of it in a few days. Again, go make a tinder profile with some really hot guy's pictures and see how differently women behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:23 AM
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Go change your Tinder profile pictures to some really hot guy's and see how demisexual women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:20 AM
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I never said it was pretty. I said women prefer it over having a normal (sexually unattractive) man all to themselves. Of course it has plenty of problems, first of which is that there is no incentive for all the other men to not just murder Chad in his sleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:19 AM
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Because women are not attracted to static images the way men are. Sorry, this has been proven, over and over, to not be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:08 AM
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5’8, but that alone isn’t a death sentence. If you want to be sexually attractive to women, it is. just stop comparing yourself to the most attractive men Why? Doing so lets us know how women act with men they find attractive. We can then compare that to how women act around us to determine what they think.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:02 AM
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Your mental health issues would likely go away if you were sexually attractive, as getting one's needs met is important to a healthy life. Besides, attractive people are treated better across the board, so why would you be anxious when the world basically loves you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:00 AM
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Because they prefer sexually attractive men and women all have roughly the same preferences in men, so, the lucky fellows who fall into this category have no shortages of options. So it's accept a harem, accept a normal man, or be alone. Women mostly prefer the first option.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 11:57 PM
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An 8, no. With a few years in the gym, a, rigorous steroid regimen, as well as a series of plastic surgeries, a 7 MIGHT be able to attract some enormously overweight single mothers but only if he pays. Once you break the Chad/Ugly barrier (An 8), gender roles flip. If women aren't initiating with and pursuing you, you're not attractive. Dating apps work great for the demographics they cater to: all women and the top few percentage of men. Lastly, just because people on this forum rate them as so…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 11:53 PM
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If you can't attract good-looking women on Tinder, you're not a 7-8.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 07:48 PM
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It generally is not explicitly "pay me and I'll fuck you" but instead it is "Hey now that I've got a kid and you've got a good job I've totally changed my standards and what I look for in a man teehee."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 07:52 AM
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Personally I don't think it's a normal experience It actually is the normal experience for men, as most men are sexually repulsive to all women and thus will never be the target of female sexual desire no matter what they do. That is why Chads have it far easier than even the most attractive women. If you were lucky enough to be born attractive, congratulations, but that is not the norm for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 06:55 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect People overall like women better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 05:48 AM
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You need to differentiate between their attraction to a customer and their sexual attraction. You are absolutely correct that women care about social relationships and positions of men but only when they are trying to find someone to whom they wish to sell sexual access. For sexual attraction, on the other hand, women are far more visual than men. All that matters is your physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 05:47 AM
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Women do approach men they like. The problem is they only like Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 05:09 AM
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It's a well-documented thing that people like women better than they like men, simply by virtue of them being women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 05:09 AM
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That is only true if you use the woman definition of "men" which basically means "Chad."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 04:24 AM
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No, it isn't. "Attractive" just means that people find you attractive. It is clear that men largely find most women, to varying degrees, attractive. The opposite is clearly not true at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 04:13 AM
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Yes. What does that have to do with the fact that women find most men repulsive?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 12:22 AM
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They don't perceive themselves as unattractive. They are unattractive. The sexual market is very clear to men about where you are on it and for most men they are squarely in the unattractive section.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 09:47 PM
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They don't attract any women, hence, incels. This is because women find almost all men to be sexually repulsive, no matter how attractive she herself is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 09:46 PM
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All human interactions are filtered through one's appearance. The difference is almost all women are somewhat attractive while almost no men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 02:44 AM
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Most women aren't interested in dating a broke man so if one with status was to come along they would pick him All women are perfectly happy dating broke men so long as he's hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 07:12 AM
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So long as inferior (Almost all) women do not reproduce as well, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 06:49 PM
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Certain types of women (introverted, nerdy, dyed hair, read books, browse ppd) will not give up their principles for a guy just from his looks. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:59 PM
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I am not talking about considering short-term sexual encounters, which can often be done for profit. I am talking about whether they experience sexual attraction for a man. In that, only your appearance matters. She might still have sex with you otherwise, but it is not because she wants to have sex with you but instead because she wants something from you and sex is how to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:00 PM
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If you have seen anyone elaborate on your belief that "men have a more holistic appraoch to desire" link me to it. Both sexes only care about your appearance. For women they look at many factors - status, looks, competence, emotional intelligence, personality, etc. They look at that when considering if they wish to sell a man sexual access via something like marriage. They do not when they are considering if they want to have sex with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:54 PM
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especially because women have a holistic approach to desire. Why do people here keep repeating things that have repeatedly been proven false?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:38 PM
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I've been with women that were so indirect that their initial response to guys they were disgusted by was near enough indistinguishable from their response to the guy they were sleeping with. (Me) It's likely that they were getting something else out of the relationship with you since they do not sound at all sexually attracted to you. Were you paying them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:23 AM
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Some women approach It was a broad enough cross-section in multiple geographical areas that we can reasonably say all women will approach if the man is hot enough to risk it. If he's not? She won't. So, you can tell whether a woman finds you sexually attractive by her willingness to approach you for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:24 AM
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No. There are a lot of very serious consequences of a man approaching: humiliation, personal injury, or even death. So it's reasonable that a man doesn't. Women cannot control themselves around Chad so it should be expected that they approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 07:23 AM
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Sureeee, if you think the average woman walks up to men, a propositions them for sex, the same average woman who get anxiety when ordering in the drive through As I said, I've seen it. You are 100% right that they are anxious, but the sight of Chad gives them such intense tingles that all else is forgotten. you can’t honeslty think the average woman does this. J As I've seen it, yes, I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:04 AM
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No one told me. I just had male friends who happened to be sexually attractive to women. Women of all ages would come up to them and very often explicitly proposition them for sex within a few minutes of meeting them. Women are NOT subtle for men they find attractive. Since women will do this for attractive men, we can then say that if they do not approach you in this way, they do not want you. I had to stop hanging out with these guys because it was bad for my mental health to see that sort of …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:37 AM
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No, they don't. Women approach attractive men by coming up to them and within a few minutes, explicitly asking for sex. No one misses that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:33 AM
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If a woman is indirect, she is not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:22 AM
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What? You see women approach ALL the time if you hang out with attractive men. All sorts of women, too. So, if she doesn't approach you, she doesn't want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:58 AM
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I believe that you truly believe what you are saying, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:58 PM
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And it has been long established that to a woman "average" means "average of the men I notice sexually", so your idea of average means tall but maybe he's doing his winter bulking to get ready for the summer modeling season right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:54 PM
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Sure, there are more things to their attraction than looks but that is no different than saying a prostitute is attracted to her John because he has money. There are different types of attraction. When it comes to their sexual attraction, all that matters is your appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:34 PM
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You are saying women do not enjoy sex with men they find sexually attractive? Ok lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:24 PM
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Where did I say women were not sexual and did not seek sex for its own sake?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:21 PM
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Wrong. When a sexually attractive man is involved, women are the active participants in romance/sex. They simply care that he is tall, muscular, and has a face shaped a certain way. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:20 PM
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"It's not the gotcha you think it is but I cannot actually explain why this is the case." Ok, I suppose I'll take that to mean "I'm wrong and you're right" thank you for admitting that you were incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:19 PM
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Where did I say women do not enjoy sex? Women absolutely enjoy sex with men they find sexually attractive. It's just that women as a group find almost no men sexually attractive. There is a reason the thirst women have for Chad makes men as a population look like eunichs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:06 PM
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If it's so simple then why don't you lay it out rather than simply making statements with no support? Again, please answer my questions or admit that you're wrong. It's very easy just like not having sex is apparently very easy, according to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 06:06 PM
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Not true at all. Almost all sex acts are transactions in some way, whether overtly or covertly through prostitution arrangements like marriage. Most men will never, ever have sex with a woman that simply desires them. She may desire something from him: money, status, or whatever, but if she could get those things without having sex with him, she would.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:58 PM
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Again, how is your bodily autonomy violated when you choose to partake in an action that can result in having a child? Also, could you either please answer my questions instead of avoiding them or post that I am correct? Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:57 PM
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When you do something, you do consent to the possible consequences of said action. If I jump off a cliff, should I complain that I injured myself? Should I start yelling that I only consented to touch a hot stove but that I did not consent to burning my hand? The only way this would not be the case is if you have no agency in life like children or the mentally infirm but in that case you cannot consent to sex, either. Even better, I have heard many women here arguing with men about financial abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:32 PM
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If you make the choice to do something that may result in a child, I do not see how it is violating your bodily autonomy to expect you to carry that child to term. You did not have to have sex, after all. You chose to have sex and thus you chose to risk having a child. Again, you are avoiding my question. It really seems to me that sex is a big deal to you and you feel that you are owed sex with no consequences. Where do you believe your feeling of entitlement originates?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:26 PM
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I somehow doubt most abortions are done because of rape. And that circumstances can change between becoming pregnant and actually giving birth. So? You can solve this very easily by just not having sex. It does not matter how the circumstances change if you simply do not have sex. Again, please answer me why you are unable to just not have sex since it is not going to kill you? Why are you avoiding answering this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:19 PM
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It is choosing to accept the consequences of having sex which can be having a child. So, as I said before, why are you so unable to just not have sex? As you said: You aren't going to drop dead from lack of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:14 PM
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you also can't force me to give birth. Removing your ability to have an abortion is not forcing you to give birth. You have a choice whether you have a child: just don't have sex. As you said, it's not a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:11 PM
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Except you aren't starving. You aren't going to drop dead from lack of sex. So why do women make such a big row about abortion rights? Why do you need them? Just don't have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 05:05 PM
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Sure, but they are demanding it of the men they enjoy having sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 04:48 PM
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Yet they are largely things that women do not consider when determining sexual attraction, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 02:33 AM
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Some guys personality is written all over him physically See what I mean about nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:53 AM
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Far less nonsense than listening to a woman talk about what she thinks is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:44 AM
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As a woman personally I stopped reading here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:35 AM
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Wrong. Women are largely not on Tinder at any one time because they make an account, find a few male models in a day or two, then delete their accounts. Almost all women are on Tinder and almost all women are having casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:14 AM
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But women find attractiveness in other things No, they don't. Women are even more "visual" than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:11 AM
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I know the answer. It was a rhetorical question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 12:33 AM
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So why does everyone continue to lie to these men that they are doing something wrong? Why can't women just admit that "we don't care what happens to you and it's totally natural that most of you don't get sex"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 11:26 PM
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Why would a man approach women when we all know women will approach men they desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:55 PM
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That's not really true, though. Women will absolutely be ok with all of that so long as the man is physically attractive which is ultimately the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:43 PM
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There’s legal and Moral duty to a man’s offspring. There is a legal one, but there is no objective moral duty to one's offspring, since there is no such thing as objective morality. In any case, I don't believe society should legislate what people have to do so I do not think there should be any legal responsibility to one's children, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 08:26 AM
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