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How can you be pro-capitalist and also left-wing? What’s left wing about saying the majority of humanity should be wage laborers and some humans should have a right to profit from their labor? Just call yourself a liberal at that point. Because that’s what you are.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/25 09:59 PM
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At this point how are you defining leftist? Just not being a literal fascist? You’re “left wing” so long as you don’t goose-step? This sub is a conservative shithole lmao
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/25 09:57 PM
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Then you have yet to explain why I’d want to tangle with the worst perpetrators of this toxic behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:12 PM
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All you’re actually saying is why there is no paradise or romantic true love narrative that can function in a society like ours. This isn’t a reason for me to care about some shallow middle class bitch though. If the choice is to be alone or start pursuing some void in the shape of a person I will just be single lmao Sorry if it shocks and appalls you that someone on this sub dare not hate and scorn the poor, but middle class culture is extremely cancerous and cowardly and I can’t respect it mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:26 PM
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I prefer poor women to vain middle class bitches tbh I hate people that are a personality void with nothing inside them but an aching hunger to consume Makes me feel sick Like watching a rat eat trash until it pukes would
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:05 PM
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Go praise Allah and find your Muslim trad wife bro
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:05 AM
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Beauty standards don’t change Tfw my IQ is definitely around 70
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:20 AM
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I think piercings are very attractive, speak for yourself right wing weirdo
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:10 AM
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I think it’s fair for men to complain about being treated like commodities rather than people
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:08 AM
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I can’t wait until libs finally get their dystopian hell where no relationships or friendships exist anymore and people solely interact with their subscription AI companions The happiest possible society for the modern liberal is a combination of the Matrix and Brave New World. Christ I’d rather human extinction than the liberal “utopia” (i.e. everyone is a wage slave and everyone is alone and on drugs)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:55 AM
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What if more young men just suck in real life than ever before? The problem is that this is logically retarded?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:53 AM
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Considering everything you just wrote I hope you never again claim women are lonely too or have equivalent problems in life to men, since, after all, you already claimed their lives are perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:47 AM
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You know, what always impresses me about liberals, is how utterly ideological they are. Have you ever considered liberal individualism and atomism is not the only possible way of seeing the world? And me? My parents were subject to neglect and abuse, especially my father. Many of my friends had been subject to abuse. My partner has been. It’s not as “uncommon” or “abnormal” as people like you make it out to be, from my experience, it is very common, and very normalized, especially, in fact, with…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:17 PM
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Good, eat a rock
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 08:24 PM
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Did you slam your face on a brick wall to write this dogshit comment? Childhood abuse being normal isn’t the same thing as childhood abuse being good. I actually think people like you are abnormal for your lack of empathy. You expect me to treat you like a human being yet don’t extend that courtesy to others. And I never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 08:10 PM
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The communist left ought to be as uncompromising with our enemies as our enemies are with us. Look up the many massacres faced by workers and know that the communists of today are cowards for not picking up rifles. The biggest failure of the modern left is an unwillingness to name and act against its enemies. Which is to say, the words of self-pity from conservatives mean nothing to me, I enjoy the pain of my enemies. I know you find this alienating. I’m okay with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:16 AM
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The only reason to say this is if someone doesn’t know what “eugenics” is
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 10:53 AM
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How does generalizing the impoverished and going on Margaret Sanger tier rants about how the economically disadvantaged breed like rabbits the start of any discussion aimed at “helping” the poor that doesn’t end in moralism, austerity, and eugenics?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 10:17 PM
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Has it ever occurred to you that “poor people” are not a monolith? That the vile welfare queen stereotype in your head isn’t some floating signifier for a poor person? That there are many different lifestyles impoverished people find themselves in? Is this completely incomprehensible in your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 10:14 PM
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I don’t care if you grew up poor, most people who experience upward mobility happily dehumanize the impoverished and are often the most vocal in championing state backed violence against the poor
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 09:47 PM
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I am a communist, and have despised the red pill for years. I also despise the “blue pill” (neoliberal individualism and progressive moralism rolled in one). Neither side is substantially different than the abusive maniacs I’ve encountered all throughout my life. I think the idea of “normalcy” is mostly cruel, ableist, and pro-white supremacy; it all centers on punishing neurodivergent people and people who don’t fit middle class white culture
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 09:19 PM
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By “mainstream Left” you mean anticommunist liberals that despise the working class and particularly the poor and equally expect men to embody traditional gender roles? Aka people who aren’t even leftists but who right wing men point to to justify their own (anti-intellectual, emotional, and illiterate) alignment with the far-right (to make their own lives worse out of spite lmao)?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 08:15 PM
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Low socioeconomic people get laid and also have kids all the time. Where do you even get this shit from other than classist stereotypes meant to dehumanize the poor? Many impoverished people do not have relationships because of their situation of poverty, please don’t treat the poor like inhuman animals with monolithic qualities, you aren’t special for getting a slightly higher wage 😊 What do economic struggles have to do with anything? Said moments before you pointedly out the early life instab…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 08:12 PM
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A world where a substantial number of people aren’t actively traumatized and pushed into a social abyss of isolation, loneliness, and despair with essentially sociopathic neoliberals barking at them from all sides that they deserve utter suffering if they don’t faster and faster on the treadmill would be a nice start ☺️ Maybe if society was un-warped enough that people on this subreddit didn’t promote eugenics, classism, radical individualism, and extreme ableism would be nice 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 08:09 PM
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What direct questions? You mean shoring up reductive idiocy with “People also talk about magic and wizardry regarding dating!”?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 08:00 PM
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I know, all that matters is setting up people to read thought terminating emotionally sadistic cliches designed to hurt people into not critically viewing social norms, teehee! Why the fuck would any deeper or more soulful man want the patriarchy upholding, money clutching, highly judgmental “normal” woman to begin with, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 07:59 PM
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What side of the age range are you? Are you old enough that you should know better or too young to know better?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 05:49 PM
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And yet economics is a known factor in a substantial number, if not the majority of relationships ending. And regardless of which, nothing you have just “added” changes that your reductionist nonsense, was reductionist nonsense. Do you know what that word means, “reductionist”? Or “reductive” if that’s easier? Don’t you feel silly that you had the nerve to claim “dating isn’t political”? Or are you completely cool with saying stupid things to be antagonistic and offputting?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 05:31 PM
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Most people’s “choices” are constrained, and only does capitalism enforce the market rationalist mindset upon people wherein they make “cost benefit analyses” of their partners. This is still simply treating people like commodities and not like people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 05:28 PM
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Because they are a commodity that thrives on desperation, they sell access to people, therefore, they take advantage of the erosion of people’s social circles (and economic conditions) by successfully commodifying the chance to meet someone. They also mine data on free users to boot, like most “free” services.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 05:27 PM
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Most of Europe has been entering cycles of economic stagnation since the 2008 crisis and austerity has been intensifying everywhere for many years now. Europe doesn’t magically exist outside the world economy and the dynamics most countries are facing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 05:25 PM
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Why is it worth calling out? What difference does it make? If you lose options due to structural conditions how can you even meaningfully “sabotage” yourself? No, all you’re doing is regurgitating neoliberal antipathy and emotional sadism, that’s it, and it’s always from that horrible Puritan outlook that suffering is merely the consequence of sin. People only deploy advice so they can continue to disengage with compassion and therefore feel okay with our hostile world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 05:24 PM
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A society that values humans as commodities is what makes people disposable There is nothing natural nor neutral about treating human beings like discardable material.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 05:06 PM
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A fairly conventional style of heterosexual relationship premised on power where neither partner engages in emotional vulnerability and one partner maintains implicit or explicit power over the other in, imo, a largely transactional relationship over all. Which is of course not easily nor necessarily achievable for all men anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 05:05 PM
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Does the Red Pill have a counter argument to the fact that at best the success it has to offer most people is not emotionally fulfilling nor healing and is in fact often deeply alienated if it can be achieved, which is itself not close to a guarantee?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 04:41 PM
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Normalizing people’s romantic isolation and social alienation absolutely is vile. It’s people here that treat empathy and compassion as incurring a cost, so much greater, somehow, than simple cruelty and emotional sadism. It is “abnormal”. That is the word for situations that aren’t the norm. To whom is it not the norm? What’s with you people and trying to determine what is and isn’t normal? It’s like your highest priority ever remains dehumanizing people. Do you know for some communities abuse …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 04:32 PM
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And yet people here are constantly discussing occupations, incomes, property, inheritance, the legal system, and gender relations in relation to dating, funny that 🤔 Surely nothing could be less political than the fundamental basis of how society is reproduced
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 04:22 PM
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Do you understand that a significant amount of people will experience life altering abuse and singling those people out as abnormal and thus unapproachable and naturally isolated is fucking vile? What can you say about a society and culture that produces people that think like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 04:21 PM
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Animals are quite indiscriminate compared to humans Probably another ding against evopsych Considering even now, in cultures influenced by patriarchy, and in past patriarchal cultures, some men would still socially climb with older women, I’m sure prior to the establishment of male dominance in many cultures around the world as the main political arrangements of entire geographic regions, it was even more common for younger men to marry older women (though it’s known in many cultures marriages w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 04:04 PM
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Anti-intellectuals are uninteresting, have a nice day 😊 Edit: And remember, with your logic, the Nazis were right (about some things) 🫣
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:58 PM
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I think Normal is something hegemonically enforced I want you to do something I want you to defend the idea of normalcy and why it is not, in your mind, historically contingent nor structurally and socially enforced
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:57 PM
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I want you to seriously interrogate the meaning of “normal” and the implications of it. Is that hard for you to do? Is normal then the statistical average person? Because the statistically average person is actually quite poor and from South or East Asia. Can I ask you something? Do you think modern culture and aesthetic norms just fell out of the coconut tree with no historical context or structural forces conditioning how people relate to one another?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:53 PM
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Anti-intellectualism at its finest Ignore the meat of someone’s argument, since it entails historical knowledge you scorn, to come to an easily dismissible strawman so you don’t have to think. Yes, ableism, white supremacy, and class prejudice sure are conspiracy theories, just like Jim Crow, Ugly Laws, and bullying 😌
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:36 PM
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Yes: White Economically privileged Above average height Socially privileged Exhibiting no lifetime traumas Neurotypical “Normal” 🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:33 PM
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I suppose if we let the SS and 20th Century eugenicists define what “normal” is? Then again, who other than such vile people get to enforce what is “normal” and what is not?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:32 PM
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You can just say: “You will have a hard time dating if Nazis wouldn’t like you” Is that easier than reading a single paragraph my anti-intellectual friend? 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:27 PM
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You can just say: You will have a hard time dating if you live in a cruel, alienating, eugenicist, marketized society where people are culturally trained to constantly perform cruelty, callousness, and shame at each other, where empathy and compassion are genuinely treated as taking more emotional energy than antipathy and sadism, and where people actively commodify themselves and others. If you fail to conform by chance or choice to the extremely narrow, historically eugenicist and white suprem…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:23 PM
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You understand that people, many people, can face familial abuse, can struggle to identify familial abuse, and can also face abuse from their peers for the rest of their life after enduring familial abuse, and also struggle to identify that as well? Do people like you have that theory of mind or sense of sonder that would inform the fact that people actually have different life experiences from your own?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:16 PM
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No, none of this is enough. We must abolish the perpetuation of classism and eugenics in the discourse of romance and dating. So much of the tropes and stereotypes and behavioral policing employed when discussing relationships are little more than the iteration of class hatred for impoverished workers. Criticism of poorer single mothers. “Solutions” to men’s problems that amount to dropping the poorest workers or working class people into the most wretched poverty possible. Shaming directed at m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:13 PM
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Therapy, that individualized commodified service that, at most, makes it easier for someone to manage the psychological affects of structural alienation but crucially offers no out, particularly not a collective, structural one, and also costs fucking money and is not even available to all people even as an individual management strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:03 PM
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Of course that was easier, women were not handed worthless neoliberal nonsense about how to individually overcome a structural issue, the only way to resolve systemic contradictions are collective organization. The mistake is seeing “loneliness” as part of someone’s individual moral narrative and not a worsening collective crisis due to forces of structural alienation that condition atomization at increasing rates for very many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:02 PM
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The law has never been changed by “democratic mandate”, that is, the farcical right to choose amongst pre-chosen decision makers whose only job is essentially to prevent democracy. Laws are changed towards ends that have served egalitarian outcomes and the partial amelioration of social iniquities through mass movements centered in specific social classes holding real or potential power who could credibly force the state to choose between reforms that allowed the ultimate power structure to cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 12:32 PM
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Because it would be more meaningful to abolish the material conditions that necessitate armed conflicts, rather than to enlist yet more of the population in the imperialist mass slaughter? The likely reason to not enlist women is also not to harm men as a class, it’s harming proletarians as a class but male business owners and politicians and generals are not at the frontlines after all, the goal of leaving women at home is to maintain wartime production. Arms don’t come out of magical rituals, …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 12:28 PM
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In war time. Women rule over men’s lives In war time, the state rules over everyone’s life and women have, historically, fulfilled the role of the domestic labor force while able bodied men fulfilled the role of foreign laborers forced to participate in the military expedition at the front. The President of Ukraine is not a woman, nor are the heads of state of most of the NATO powers nor Russia for that matter. And yet, here I am, not so foolish as to say “Men” rule men’s lives in wartime. In wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 12:25 PM
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Capitalism stopped you from even mentally conceiving of what is considered “attractive” could have even changed at any point iver thousands of years and that all societies to have existed thus far are identical to post-industrial market based societies with mass media production and psychologically targeted advertising Inb4 dude does the most typical thing and uses his ignorance as a weapon against reality
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:55 PM
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Probably has to do with being able to discuss what is and isn’t “attractive” without relying on normative claims and eugenics that don’t hold water when arrayed to all existing societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:06 PM
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Actually nobody’s a capitalist unless they own capital in some form regardless of whether or not they identify with and support the system. Capitalism isn’t an ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:05 PM
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I think capitalist ideologues necessarily conflate socialism with the Soviet Union because that’s easier than defending the social system they stand by on its own merits or lack thereof. I think every single argument they have amounts to the starting assumption that freedom is impossible, so that capitalism’s falling short of it is the closest humans can come to realizing it. A cynical assumption that rests on an ahistorical in both directions, into the past and toward the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 03:16 PM
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Who is “we”? I have absolutely nothing against single mothers, I was raised by a single mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 01:42 PM
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Why did you flaunt your degree only to retreat to anti-intellectualism and cry victory at your own inability to actually rebut a single thing I said? Being able to bray is only a powerful skill in a flock, are you a sheep? Because I’ve had a long conversation with you that consisted in you essentially saying nothing and declaring victory each step of the way. Meanwhile, I’ve built a decent conversation out of essentially empty thought terminating cliches. I wonder, what does it say about a socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:31 AM
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Socialist revolution has thus far not been successful, there has been no existing communist society in modern times, none of the Marxist-Leninist states even claimed to have achieved communism since they, if nothing else, knew they held to the line that communism is a classless, moneyless, and stateless form of society and can only properly exist on a global scale as capitalism is itself a global system. For such a thing to occur, there would likely need to be some form of international revoluti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:26 AM
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What sort of property? Private property is enforced by state violence whether it be a factory or a slave. Regarding it being a slave, human property does have a choice. Why do slave systems build around themselves such overt and crude forms of utter terror and brutal torture and leave it all out in the open? Because the slave does always have the choice of simply doing everything in their power to kill their master. Slaves are only legally property, socially they are a class, specifically, a cla…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:13 AM
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Ah, so you aren’t anything bordering on a free thinker eh? Let alone an academic? As someone who claims to possess a history degree, would you say your professors consider this meaningful research? As someone that took numerous history classes for my own degree in political theory, a study not comprehensible without studying the historical conditions of a given theorist or philosopher or thinker, I can’t think of a single professor that would accept “the dictionary” and “the rhetoric of a govern…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:11 AM
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I don’t find it so much hypocritical as I do outright disturbing. Earlier I saw someone genuinely struggling to comprehend why a man would rather be remembered in his obituary by his family than by whatever his job was lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:06 AM
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Why do you keep making normative statements about things you clearly never studied? I can tell you know little about the topics we’re discussing from the fact that you can’t take the time to try rebutting anything I stated, probably because you’re mainly trying to shore up your own preexisting worldview than consider anything I’m saying. “Socialism isn’t communism”, lmao, that’s something Lenin himself formulated as a concept, Marx just used the terms interchangeably. I’m fully willing to discus…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:04 AM
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We all choose to work to survive In that case did not a slave choose to work to survive as well? He could have certainly risked a revolt or simply going on the run. Or what about a peasant? Peasants are always easier, right? The way they get exploited is just too obvious. It’s quite interesting that you claim you could have “chosen” to be homeless or potentially live off welfare if that was even an option for you. Why didn’t you “choose” to just be homeless or on welfare then? You just like work…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:00 AM
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Really, what did you study in history to be exact? It just seems curious to me that a history major would know basically nothing about socialist history, considering it is very integral to a great deal of 20th Century history. I’m very surprised a history major wouldn’t at all know whether or not those countries can be called communist by any metric but the ones the governments sort of made up (it must be remembered, socialism/communism as a movement and concept dates to the early 1800s and the …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 03:12 AM
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There’s nothing fundamentally different about labor, regardless of who’s paying you See, you’re finally thinking like a Marxist, perhaps I judged you too harshly! That is exactly correct, on the market, in terms of goods and laborers, not much, no, nothing distinguishes labor; for how could all things, such a huge multiplicity of different tasks and roles and processes be made equivalent other than to assume they’re all the same, yet, how could they not all be priced if not made equivalent? Perh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 03:06 AM
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Nope. That also occurred in Vietnam, China, North Korea, Cuba, Laos, Yugoslavia, East Germany, Romania, Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria…. You just named several countries that were either actively and intentionally emulating the Soviet model in return for material and diplomatic aid, some of the countries you mentioned were specifically governments imposed by the USSR itself. A few of the societies you mentioned actually embraced Marxism-Leninism and turned towards the Soviet Union specifically when th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 02:41 AM
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The funny thing is that I don’t think I claimed trying to start a capitalist enterprise is easy, so I don’t see your point; most laborers are structurally locked out of it for a reason. My actual point is that the class position you articulated to me actually goes well to explain why it’s so difficult for you to understand the point I’m trying to make to you, because, and this may be hard to get, and it ain’t an insult, but the class position you are trying to move into necessitates you be blind…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 01:52 AM
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Rights are a nonsensical idea to begin with and are implicitly reliant on the sovereign state recognizing that you even have them. That being said, equality under the law is not the be all, end all; after all, as the saying goes, the rich man and poor man both have the equal right to sleep under a bridge (unless you’re american, where homelessness is a crime).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 01:06 AM
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Every single day I just come here and read liberals celebrating the unfreedom capitalist society induces on everyone’s lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 01:04 AM
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Advice is itself largely worthless, emerges from a Puritan culture built around shame, implies a notion of hyperagency enjoyed by individuals that does not actually exist, and is mostly given as an alternative to empathy, solidarity, and compassion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 01:03 AM
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The real reason for the male loneliness epidemic is existing in a society built out of antagonisms and iniquities on all of its levels. It’s actually funny as fuck to discount the male loneliness narrative not by discussing the progressive atomization of societies all over the world, where the only connective tissue would be the prevailing power of private capital and particularly monopoly capital in all the world’s countries, either domestically generated or externally imposed; but actually the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:56 AM
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Sounds based to me If the class of laborers have no recourse to turn their arms on their immediate exploiters, why die for their sake in a war against other exploiters whose only real threat is typically to induce the conditions of existence already upheld by their currently existing exploiters?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:52 AM
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Liberals are staunch defenders of capital and the state, why the fuck would they be against conscription for anyone? Liberals don’t defend conscription because they want men to die, but because they will happily sacrifice the lives of proletarians to preserve “civil society” or more accurately the rule of their particular capital in their particular country.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:45 AM
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Militaries are not made by majoritarian decision making at all. Do you remember the last time you even “voted” on whether or not your state has a military and the right to conscript should need arise? Do you live in an alternative reality where the masses of citizens, by any act other than collective confrontation with the state, actually determine what laws are even drafted up? Conscription doesn’t occur because “people” vote for it, it occurs because the foundational principle of sovereignty i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:39 AM
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Absurd nonsense if ever I have read some. Didn’t need to look at the body, the header was more than enough. Conscription has nothing to do with “matriarchy”, indeed there has not yet been a matriarchy in all hitherto recorded societies, matrilineal inheritance is the closest any society comes to female dominance, otherwise societies tend to be either egalitarian with men and women holding equal political power, or patriarchal, with men holding political power. Regarding places like Ukraine, its …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:34 AM
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That’s because shitty people are less likely to have relationships. Moralizing over relationships is little more than sadistic nonsense. “Shitty people” are no less likely to have relationships than “good people”; the progressive atomization of society has nothing to do with people’s morality and contrary to your own absurd claim, capitalist culture itself very much rewards cruelty and domination in the social sphere, at least as often as it compels others towards submission.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:28 AM
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A two parent household is only less atomized than a one parent household, it can be said, however, that the individual family is itself an oppressive structure that emerged historically. People on this subreddit need to cease with this unscientific and ahistorical hyperagency it applies to all people, men and women alike. The world doesn’t actually come down to the “choices” of individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:26 AM
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Specifically everything mentioned here occurred in the West proper or in its colonial territories. When such atrocities occurred in the USSR itself, the leadership, quite literally, explained that they needed to introduce every aspect of capitalist relations into their economy to properly “develop” it until it was “technologically capable” of being “socialist”. Why are you even trying to argue with me on something you clearly never read deeply into? To justify why the only options women have are…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:22 AM
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Hehe, I referenced the USSR again, your move? Everything you point to in the USSR, occurred in every single capitalist society, because it was, for all intents and purposes, a capitalist society. But they called themselves— Imagine if socialism as a political movement actually existed since the early 19th Century, if the majority of socialists for the majority history of that political ideology actually aren’t USSR shills, and if there was any sort of criteria one could actually point to that wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:19 AM
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I’m self-employed Ah it all makes sense now. Yea my stances wouldn’t make sense to, what, a small business owner? I’m not a populist, the only people that remotely matter to me are the class of people who sell their labor power to survive, and the class of people who stand in reserve for the first group. People with an interest in preserving the ability of capital owners to marshal labor, just don’t matter to me, at least regarding discussions of autonomy, freedom, and people having control over…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:14 AM
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Mate, I am shamelessly a communist, I explained clearly what the alternatives are, you can’t comprehend it because I’m guessing you think wages and money serve a mystical service without which labor and distribution couldn’t happen, rather than its actual purpose of controlling labor in a top-down manner and prohibiting distribution based on need. Very good, I’ll tell you why — because there’s no better alternative You know an ideology is dogshit when its main defense is that the world genuinely…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 10:34 PM
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You literally are a servant, just to a faceless multinational. Why the fuck would anyone brag about this? I promise you your average medieval peasant would brag about their own lives and not comprehend why wage laborers take pride in their utter dependence on the market. A peasant owned their own implements and means of production for the most part and while their land was politically held by a class of nobles, it was, for all intents and purposes, their own possession, lost only should need or …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 10:33 PM
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Wow life used to be much harder now accept selling most of your life away to an employer or otherwise risk death, remember, you live better than a chattel slave! At least liberals implicitly admit their ideal society is fucking shit actually
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:25 PM
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I mean I stated what we should do, very evidently to be freed from wage labor and commodity production (things that existed in the USSR as well FYI, it never once called itself communist). It’s up to people like you to explain why laborers should be faced with the “free” choice to sell most of their waking life to a class of employers or die
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:22 PM
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So when you do work in your own household, assuming you do chores, are you currently selling your labor to an employer? Why do people have such a gargantuan struggle even vaguely comprehending that “work” isn’t synonymous with “selling your labor to a capital owner”. Why the fuck do you keep asking how people can eat without work when you don’t work in agriculture? Are you a farmer? Or do you just benefit from the products of social labor like most people? You need to come up with a justificatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:12 PM
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Where are the wages supposed to come from? The wage is what workers get as their “compensation” for deprivation of the products their labor produces. This is why I say your thinking is entirely enclosed. Again, do you think capitalists have magical powers that makes production halt without them? Where do you think they even get the money from to pay workers with? Do you think a wizard gives it to them? Are workers supposed to pay themselves? Ah you mean the workers having direct access to their …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:09 PM
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Do people like you think capitalists have magical powers labor doesn’t possess that makes food production and industrial technology possible only if the laborers have no control over their own work and the products of that work? I don’t need to wonder if liberals actually know what capitalism is, I know the answer, they unironically think it’s when you do labor. Do liberals know what anything is? Do you know what a serf is? What a slave is?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 05:38 PM
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Christ I wish people like you could read instead of uncritically absorbing every cultural narrative ever shat into your brain. At the very least stop telling people to take joy in slavery over their relationships with other people just because “feminism” taught you the flesh is weak and the market is god
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 05:28 PM
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Thinking shouldn’t be this difficult. Maybe I will just start by asking. Do you know what labor is, do you know what economic surplus is, and do you know what “wage labor is and that other forms of surplus extraction were dominant before it? I know redditors struggle with more than basic historical knowledge
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 04:03 PM
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Why do you need to sell labor to a firm for food production to occur?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 03:49 PM
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All you’re doing is expressing people’s unfreedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 03:36 PM
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No one is remembered personally past the fourth generation Wage slaves aren’t remembered past a single generation if they have nothing but their jobs and objects Men can work or not work, they’re not slaves. That’s an insult to actual slaves. Jesus Christ, read a fucking book instead of passively absorbing society’s bullshit ideas People who personally knew, lived in the same time period as, and even were slaves directly literally saw the connection between wage labor and normal slavery, since, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 03:35 PM
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What does “men don’t wanna” even mean? There are billions of men in the world, do you have any idea how ridiculous it is to make them into a monolith? The quickest way to end men’s problems would be to end capitalism, but libs like yourself also uphold it and men aren’t as some homogeneous mass choosing to create it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 03:13 PM
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Nothing about a lifetime of wage slavery or homelessness is comfortable
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 03:00 PM
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Don’t bother, liberals genuinely cannot comprehend human concepts like love and companionship and community, they’re basically bizarre aliens that worship subjugating work and material objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 02:56 PM
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Anyone can sell their labor power. Obituary? You think the company gives a fuck when the greatest of professionals die. “He worked hard and accumulated objects”, what a stunning obituary, surely better than being remembered by your children and grandchildren, by your friends and lover(s). I wish you libs would cut the bullshit and admit you just wish men were happy to live and die as slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 02:55 PM
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Defining yourself by your ability to sell your labor on the market is inhuman and alienating, one of the most sickening things about America’s degenerate society is the degree to which people entirely define themselves by their employment. The figures you mention to justify this logic are barely even human, capital owners, literal vile anti-worker politicians and business owners. Not at all shameful to define yourself by the people you love rather than how you fit into the fucking market.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 02:53 PM
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Don’t have actual uncoerced relationships with real human beings Do be a wage slave though! Honestly the only thing more overtly sociopathic than the liberal worldview is literal fascism Do people like you know this is vicious and cruel or do you genuinely feel like it’s empowering advice to tell people to find more fulfillment in selling their labor power than experiencing love and companionship?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 02:48 PM
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