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Feminists somehow acknowledge men being expected to be breadwinners, stoic protectors and pursuers under "patriarchy hurts men too" while they simultaneously tell men their dating issues have nothing to do with society or women. I'm not very good at "being a feminist". Still. This is the exact opposite of what most women want. I do not date and will not for the foreseeable future... 1) ...but I'm distraught at the idea of a man I date making substantially more than I do. That's a dangerous situa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:51 PM
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I don't know that bodycount knows cultural boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:32 AM
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Do you have sources for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:15 AM
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There's a lot of men in the west who hold the same views but say nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:06 AM
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Some foreign making statements about dating in the west, about western women, is bonkers. Why do you think this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 12:51 AM
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I was raised in the Evangelical church. I'm physiologically capable but terrified and feel guilty. On the plus side, I can't be compelled.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 12:43 AM
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I think everyone has valid insights into reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 12:34 AM
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From my vantage point not much has changed unfortunately lol. I could tell you stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:40 AM
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TBH - extreme right wing isn't a cathedral, good ole boys in a truck. They are there, but they don't represent the right-wing intelligentsia. Some of us are atheists, rebels, and have advanced degrees. We like secrets - theirs. I know this to be true, I have seen it for myself. My concerns are, for lack of better terminology, varied and profound. We fight not by power, force, or manipulation. We fight with flashlights. We witness, we remember, we tell. Honesty is the best policy. Biblical shit i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 03:52 AM
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think, as a parent, that it's reasonable to want the best outcome for your children, and to not want them to be disabled, diseased, or treated poorly because of lookism is normal/moral. Can you please elaborate on what you consider to be the ideal outcomes for children? And a followup question. If human beings have a subconscious bias toward physically attractive people, why would that make it moral? Or, if you don't find it moral, why would you then prioritize it over other traits, behaviors, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 05:12 PM
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If that's your prerogative, then that's your prerogative. Everyone is free to abstain from passing on their genes. My stance is separate from this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 05:06 PM
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Are you saying that you think it's problematic or immoral to want your own children to look a certain way or to have certain heritable traits? Yes. I have my own personally informed reasons for thinking this. I would be fascinated to learn why you disagree, if you disagree. Or are you conflating the immorality of legitimate eugenicist practices with caring about that sort of thing? I think the colloquial usage and my usage here are related but separate phenomena. The colloquial usage is larger i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 04:55 PM
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To me there's no meaningful distinction to be made in terms of intent to manipulate. The only difference is the relative level of power that the person has.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 04:33 PM
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From wikipedia: eugenics juːˈdʒɛnɪks the study of how to arrange reproduction within a human population to increase the occurrence of heritable characteristics regarded as desirable. This is the common usage of the term. I do agree that those with power have and continue to impose their eugenicist worldviews onto others.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 04:28 PM
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I've always thought it was common knowledge (whether subconscious or concious) to be overly selective of favourable physiological attributes over poor attributes. ...Only in online spaces for people with poor self awareness and extremist worldviews. Like the redpill incels who post to this sub. Well-adjusted people overwhelmingly trend normal. How is this considered even remotely dabbling in eugenicist thought? You are not accounting for the whole conversation. Please scroll through the whole co…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:00 AM
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Then anyone who wants to reproduce with another because they feel attracted to the other person's physical characteristics is "dabbling in eugenicist thought." That attraction is rooted in evolutionary biology of wanting to pass on the genes of what you view as a better fit for your offspring. You have a prefrontal cortex friend. We've evolved past the lizard brain stages. Also, that man's individual opinion alone is not an indictment for what the rest of society should also think. It's just his…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 12:20 AM
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I'm not sure why you're accusing me of being eugenicist just for preferring to have children with a woman whose real face and features I'm aware of (ideally as soon as possible in the dating stages if I'm dating for serious reasons). Is that not a normal, reasonable want for a person with a natural face to have? 1) I'm not accusing you of being a eugenicist, I said you were dabbling in eugenicist thought. 2) My conclusion is based on this sentiment: "Don't you feel like that's screwing over the …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 10:15 PM
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Oh dear. That must've been awful, I hope your cousin hasn't faced any heat over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:44 PM
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Don't you feel like that's screwing over the man if he is expecting his children to have certain features that are impossible for the woman to pass on? Okay, yeah, OP is dabbling in eugenicist thinking. You haven't thought eugenics through. It's completely circular and hinges on a value judgment. In this instance, you highly value attractiveness, so you're prioritizing attractiveness in your future mate. Who determines what is objectively attractive, or how is it to be determined? Further, who i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:40 PM
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This person might be dabbling in eugenicist thought. Cosmetic surgery = "hiding" inferior genetics. Something like that. FYI, anyone who thinks this way hasn't realized that it's completely circular and hinges on what is essentially a value judgment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:29 PM
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I asked you a question, and you refused to answer. The questions you asked me are phrased in such a way that arguably beg the question. It's reasonable to reject questions that you think to be predicated on a false dichotomy, and that's not the same thing as withholding information. Believe it or not, it has absolutely happened to me before, with this exact subject. Some people want to conclude that everyone is essentially as shallow as they are, so they use loaded terminology. You said personal…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:08 PM
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"I think the best framing is, what do you define as attractive in terms of a potential partner?" See now, you're already operating under the assumption that I care a great deal about physical attractiveness. I don't. I have eyeballs, I am aware of physical attractiveness, but quite frankly it's not high on my list of priorities. I care a lot more about people's personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 06:36 PM
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I think a more fair assessment is in order. We are biological organisms. We aren't fixed, we're fluid. There's always room for improvement. The trouble is that nobody quite agrees on what "being better" entails. The red pill focuses on superficial elements, not core character.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:32 PM
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1 Timothy 2:11–15 "A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing — if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety." 1 Corinthians 14:33–35 "As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the chu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 10:44 PM
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At this point in time these answers make sense. A woman's right to religious freedom/disbelief is more or less an existential threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 04:29 PM
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Can you explain: 1) Why most people hate the view? 2) Why the other person brought it up in response to what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 04:07 PM
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Most things on The View do not celebrate leaving religious extremism its celebrating selfishness. I don't know much about this show other than men hate it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 03:40 AM
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I'm not sure I understand the point, when two thirds of them do believe it's essentially harmful, including my family, and I'm not interested in pursuing any moderately religious or spiritual types.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 03:39 AM
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Hello. The percentage of Americans who identify as atheists sits around 4%. Most of them are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 03:20 AM
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It can be hard to understand how toxic your beliefs are until you have some firsthand experience revealing how destructive they are. People’s resentment clouds any semblance of empathy It's rough. I am a very conscious thinker, so I ended up deconstructing the unhinged religious beliefs and psychological complexes through my high school courses. Heuristics and analogous tools helped me a ton. Hope you're doing better too!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 08:40 PM
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Exactly. Organized religious communities are conservative and trend toward exploitative patriarchal circle jerks... but people are reliant on their family and crave community acceptance. My mom faced a lot of issues growing up, and her parents were emotionally unavailable. She developed unhealthy coping mechanisms, made poor decisions, and spent decades trying to win back the favor of her parents and community. She was given the cold shoulder and routinely shamed. She made compensatory mistake a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 05:32 PM
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I'm a woman who was taught the opposite extreme by my family. Divorce is horrible and only okay if the children are in danger. It's not rape if you're married. You're supposed to stay in the marriage for the kids' sake and respect/obey your husband. If you do ever get divorced, you shouldn't remarry... I'm sure it's hard to relate, but I am glad that some women go to the media with their abuse stories. It helps showcase systemic problems to girls raised in extreme environments like I was.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:50 PM
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I think you make a fantastic distinction here. This has certainly happened to me before.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 02:35 PM
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I don't know how people can only go off of appearance, I always need to get a sense of their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 11:37 AM
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Yes. The worst thing is when I tell a man about a conflict I face, and his immediate response is to pick a fight with the other person. I don't want others to solve issues for me, I go to others for help thinking them through.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:09 PM
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What the... Okay, I think I understand actually. Once a man who picked up shifts at my work took me out on a date in a brand new sports car. He revved the engine and drove super fast, then he put on the brakes before he hit the car in front of him. It scared me and I asked him to stop this. He must not have heard me, because he did it several times. ...I didn't ever go on a date with him again. Perhaps some women like this, but I don't find "macho man" behavior attractive. It's a red flag, reckl…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 12:54 PM
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>This reaffirms and validates the argument of “if the democrats don’t change the way they approach things then they will never win a future election” which is the go-to retort for some men who voted for Trump, at least from my own unbiased perspective. Unfortunately, white cisgendered straight men have been outcast from this party in droves. I think I understand. To this point, I think outlining a "systemic enemy" does the Democrat party a disservice. They criticize this demographic of people fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:26 PM
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I have not seen these same women who align themselves with progressive ideologies treat their counterparts (or liberal men) with support, respect, and grace which you would come to expect if they don’t want to be with conservative men. Could you please go into detail on this bit more?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:07 PM
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The reason is that every living being is innately selfish and looks out for their own self-preservation. Humans don’t escape that maxim even if we can manage it to some extent compared to other animals. We all have self preservative instincts, but could you please explain how this is necessarily conducive to selfishness? No man is an island entire of itself... In modern world unless you live in a hippie commune everyone is pursuing some level of wealth and power. And even in the hippie commune t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 05:35 PM
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Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. This maxim is the rule and thus exists for a reason, but one has think in terms of causality in order to determine how this happens as well as how it can be deterred. The only difference is that men tend to accrue more wealth and power than women. I would argue that those most prone to corruption are the ones who pursue wealth and power. But that has nothing to do with “patriarchy”, not in the way feminism defines it at least. Could you prov…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:57 PM
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That said, I think we still need to be cautious about how we frame “net benefit” when discussing gender. A system can be skewed in a way that seems to favour one sex on the surface but when you dig deeper, you find that both men and women are being boxed in, just in different ways. What’s framed as male advantage (stoicism, dominance, career success) often comes at the cost of emotional repression, social isolation, and brutal pressure to perform. The standards you mentioned—at work, at home, in…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 03:34 PM
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>Most men don’t have access to that kind of influence or control they’re not shaping the system, they’re just trying to survive within it. Strongly agree. We all have to learn to survive in societies that facilitate our commodification. >And when we treat patriarchy as something that all men benefit from equally, we blur the line between those who hold power and those who are also struggling under outdated expectations. I don't mean to suggest this either. I do not think that all men benefit fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:34 PM
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Please don't misunderstand. I don't mean to hold all men to blame for the phenomenon of the patriarchy (there are plenty of good men who dislike it), or to use the existence of the patriarchy as an excuse to deflect from the points you've made here (I agree with you on most of these points, with the exception of which sex gets the short end of the stick). I asked the question in the first place because I think societies across the globe having these same dynamics, stratified patriarchies, sugges…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:45 AM
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Would you agree that societies are patriarchal?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 10:20 AM
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Another one-sided narrative that ignores reality. Men don’t get some magical free ride through marriage. They’re expected to provide financially, be emotionally available, contribute to housework, and be involved dads. But if the relationship fails? They’re often stuck paying child support, lose custody, and get minimal time with their own kids. That’s not a win. And no, most men aren’t getting pampered with sex, home-cooked meals, and uninterrupted careers. That’s a fantasy. Plenty of men work …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 08:17 PM
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While we're grossly generalizing, I sure am sick of reading about all of this global sex trafficking and pedophilia.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 07:40 PM
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Not a man, but I was raised to view marriage as a meaningful gesture toward commitment. It is the act of financially tying yourself to another person before the government and the community. Marriage has become expensive, and divorce is fairly common and even more expensive, so people don't get married nearly as frequently as they once did. This puts men in a difficult position as far as meaningful gestures toward commitment and loyalty go. I don't know that commitment-phobia goes in both direct…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:56 PM
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I understand what you describe here. I think nobody likes a parasite, but nobody likes a pushover. Both extremes are generally undesirable to both sexes. Ideally, you'd want to date someone who can be reasoned with, but still has a backbone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:21 PM
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>I can’t say I’ve ever been manipulated by someone without me catching on. When things start getting uncomfortable, your boundaries being pushed, isn’t it natural to stop and think and push back? ...Not when you come from a community that enables manipulative, entitled parents. These parents didn't raise you with the understanding of, or any respect for your boundaries. Physical and psychological. We all naturally express different temperaments and aptitudes toward certain ways of seeing the wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:13 PM
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Women dont choose abusive men, they choose men they're attracted too, some of those men are abusive, some women leave and find another attractive man that hopefully isn't abusive this time, some leave and never date again cause they can't attract an attractive partner that isn't a red flag I'd encourage you to look into a psychological construct called "CPTSD". I wasn't sexually attracted to my last boyfriend. He knew how to emotionally isolate me and manipulate me to think the way he wanted me …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:07 PM
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Oh yes, I did get the order mixed up. I mean the latter. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 07:25 PM
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>You need to understand that: broadly speaking most women (but not all women) are relationship oriented, they like people, not so much things. Conversely most men (but not all men) are process oriented, they like things more than dealing with people. I have seen a lot of people express this idea. Can you corroborate the phenomenon you describe here? I have ASD and ADHD, so I very much fall into the former group, but parts of my brain are still oriented toward the latter group. I think a person's…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 04:55 PM
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I wouldn't be bothered by their virginity, it would be hypocritical, because I am also a virgin. I care more about other qualities in men. I want to date honest, respectful people who share my values.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 12:02 PM
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>What I don't understand is why women immediately equate male sexual attention with objectification and degradation. "A lot of women claim to hate being cold approached for the same reason, since they know they're approached for their looks." Okay, this is what you've been told. Now put yourself in the perspective of a woman in this scenario, and instead of thinking about it from your vantage point, think empathically. Some man you've never seen before is looking at you liscentiously and making …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 09:03 PM
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I have ASD and ADHD so there's limited insight I can offer pertaining to these two superficial qualities. In high school that's how some kids were. Other kids weren't like this. College studies vary, I haven't seen any meta analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:15 PM
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Really, I think the primary factor for all relationships starts at physical / personal attraction. Marilyn Monroe once observed that men and women can both be shallow, in different ways. For women: money. For men: beauty. Also: I find this fascinating, could you explain your flair please?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:58 PM
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Clubs aren't very prosocial. At least at bars you don't have to pay an entry fee and there are other people to talk to and games to play. It's still expensive though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:47 PM
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It's limited access to the opposite sex in a capitalist system.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:02 PM
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We increasingly disagree what constitutes goodness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:06 PM
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I understand that men have qualms with DEI initiatives, but this doesn't answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:53 PM
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Lets start with the first sentence. Who deems what merit is?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:47 PM
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It makes sense that dating apps would bleed men dry. Night clubs operate the same way. Let women in free and charge men up the ying yang.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:00 PM
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Technology makes mentalizing worse. It occurs across the aisle.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 08:58 PM
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What you say here. Gynocentric society. Maybe it feels true to you, but you're a man who wants to date women. Of course this will alter your perceptions. ...To me, a woman, this sentiment is so absurd it is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 08:57 PM
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I am not in any position to judge a man over such things when society is the way it is. I am not someone who should ever use dating apps, but that's how most people date.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 01:28 PM
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I see a lot of factors at play, but I think these anecdotal experiences might loosely reflect hormonal influences. Based on the data I was reading, the higher levels of testosterone a man has, the more likely he is to reinforce established sociocultural patterns. On aggregate, men are less likely to allow new information and experiences to alter their outlooks. At baseline women are more malleable. So, I have ASD, and because I'm a woman, that typically means there's more neuroplasticity there. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 01:12 PM
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I work for a large construction supplier. My boss keeps a framed picture of a Christian cross with the American flag wrapped around it in the office. ...It's very subtle.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 04:32 AM
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I'm guilty of falling into the latter category. I'll share my perspective, and maybe you can tell me what you think. I work at the headquarters of a large corporation. I don't enjoy it, but it's a decent job. It comes with benefits, and I have to keep the job for the foreseeable future. ...It's frustrating. The men are always giving me sexually suggestive looks or hitting on me. I simply do not feel comfortable dating my coworkers, for numerous reasons. I came into the position aware of the indu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 04:17 AM
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I am mostly against it, but I wanted to see what the other fellow thought because he mentioned it being a common occurrence when he was young.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 04:05 AM
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and the workplace (the latter now seemingly problematic, as well) What do you think of this? Would you prefer the opportunity to date coworkers or do you see it as a problem? And why or why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:21 AM
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1) Some people celebrate this holiday and some do not. You can discuss it beforehand. Communication, and especially being on the same page is important for a healthy relationship. 2) Gifts vary and are usually surprises. Maybe you got her an expensive piece of jewelry, and she got you chocolate. Next year, you might get her flowers, and she might surprise you with an iPad or tickets to a concert. 3) Dinners don't have to be expensive to feel sophisticated, delicious, and meaningful. With a littl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:13 PM
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NYC is a large, diverse area. People don't have the opportunity to build these kinds of dynamics with each other. Can't be judging people and still expect to get along. I live in the suburbs of Minnesota. My mother was ostracized by her entire church community for becoming a single mom. She became depressed and started drinking, then her parents kicked her out. She had to care for her baby alone. Provincial conservative people shun single moms and treat them as examples for their daughters to av…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:23 AM
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The more you systematize, the worse you are at empathizing. People generally like it when others are capable of socializing. I've had periods where I've gotten so analytical that I seem like a robot. I can barely speak. Taking a break and reading fiction, listening to music etc helps negate this somewhat. ...Some studies suggest that ASD has associated facial features. <image> ...But the research is not robust. Not every autistic person displays these facial features. They are also not necessari…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 03:53 AM
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If the point of this post is merely that loneliness is an unaddressed societal problem, I wholeheartedly agree with you. I have seen a lot of extremism from incels, and I had a difficult time extrapolating a point, or a solution from what you've said. Apologies for inferring malintent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:09 PM
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Additionally: While they do get some volunteers, the Catholic church communities spend a lot of time observing young kids. As the kids grow, they deliberately select for the autistic, pedophilic, and homosexual young people. They push these people in the direction of lifelong clergy service. This is where the notorious "the Catholic priest is molesting the alter boy" jokes come from. So...These numbers are not exactly what I would call an accurate reflection of asexuality/aromanticism. They are …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:42 PM
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I am of the opinion that our society needs more community spaces for people to meet up and make friends. At present the only public places you can go to without the expectation of spending money are museums, libraries, and parks/walking trails. You don't seem to mean community connectedness when you say this, though. You seem to be discussing sexual intimacy. I am sorry to hear you don't have a partner, but I do not think you are entitled to a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:42 PM
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I need to reach a position where I'm secure enough to pursue a relationship with another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:10 PM
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I think my confusion is ontological. I don't know what constitutes mental illness because the definition is vague and not agreed on. I also don't know what constitutes trauma, or if there are proven methods of treating it. There are hundreds of different types of therapy and all of them are helpful according to the self reports.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:57 PM
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I know you mentioned it. I asked if this early childhood factor alone makes someone mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 02:46 PM
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I am curious. Is having poor instincts for the opposite sex as a result of the way you were raised conducive to mental illness? It is true that everyone's early environment informs their subconscious drives, worldview, personality, and it impacts their behavior. So in this case, the only difference is a healthy early environment vs an unhealthy early environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 02:28 PM
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Not at present. I'm trying to overcome past patterns. My heart goes out to all of the other people who will be affected by this social initiative. Bodily autonomy benefits all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 10:41 PM
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I was not raised in a good home and I have a very poor understanding of psychological boundaries. I understand they exist for others, but it's easy for pushy, manipulative people to overwhelm me, gaslight me, and destroy mine. With Roe v Wade being federally overturned, I don't know how to proceed. It's why I've been practicing 4B. Most of my life I've been masking and practicing 4B.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 09:07 PM
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It's posts like these that terrify me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 07:50 PM
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My brain is broken. This thread feels a bit beyond me, but it's something I've noticed from a lot of people too. One of my old friends graduated from school and told me the whole thing about race being a social construct, race isn't real, and then later he told me he had a fetish for Asian women. On the one hand you have, your best working understanding of reality. On the other, you have your learned experiences and subconscious biological drives. The language changes, but people don't usually c…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 05:46 PM
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I fail to see how she is "low smv", by any telling of the story. If we're going by extreme wealth/poverty disparity, which I think is the real marker here... Then the Disney Aladdin movie?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 10:40 AM
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Based on my observations and experiences with power imbalances; I think the real problem occurs when they go unaddressed by both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:16 AM
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My experience is that most people who don’t date are really socially awkward and avoid talking to people. 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:36 AM
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You should know: wages haven't risen since the 1970s, young people cannot afford to get married or buy a home. A lot of people in our country are hurting, much of our food is unhealthy and causes addiction and disease. Our school systems are poor, a great many people in our country are at a middle school reading level. Our political system is hopelessly corrupt, and many of our institutions are systemically entrenched. Roe v Wade was just overturned, and the GOP plans to restructure our governme…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:54 AM
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As a teenager there was a lot of cognitive dissonance surrounding this subject. On paper it made sense, but lack of experience/exposure played a big role. In adulthood I care about too many other things more than how butch/femme a man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 04:01 AM
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I'm not going to argue evo psych isn't a thing, but you can take those arguments in a lot of directions. We're too complicated to operate off of a model that reductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 12:53 PM
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Two things: 1) we're conscious 2) contraception exists
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 05:15 AM
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I understand what you say here and I am liable to agree that's how most people would see it. I do think that most adults are also likely to view this type of only fans content though, and if they do, there's an unexamined hypocrisy in looking down on the women making it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:48 PM
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So it's definitely my ADHD talking; but now that you mention lack of dignity pertaining to using only fans, this is sort of a fascinating philosophical mode of thinking. Would having an only fans account necessitate a lack of dignity? Surely not? Depending on your personality, worldview, position in life, and what exactly you mean by "dignity", we can assume some women would feel a sense of dignity from monetizing only fans? For instance: What if only fans is the path they take to stepping up in…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:18 AM
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I understand loyalty, accountability, egocentrism, and consumerism. What does dignity mean in this context?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 10:26 PM
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I am an American woman. I can't pretend that I know what it's like to live in countries with strict gender roles like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Russia, etc. However, I was raised by Evangelical fundamentalist Christians, so I do know what it's like to come from a culture that imposes a rigid social identity and worldview onto you. Being stuck in an extremist, cult-like community where you aren't allowed to think certain things, say certain things, ask the wrong questions, or live as you wish isn't fun…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 03:38 AM
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Understood. Thank you for telling me all you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 11:04 PM
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First, I would like to thank you for taking the time to tell me this. I have encountered many men who are opposed to a large government, but their reasoning for it is often selfish/ideological/flawed. This is the first time in a long time anyone has expressed the opinion to me, gone into great detail on why they think so, and the logical throughway makes sense. My brother strongly agrees with you. It's been demonstrated to me that our government is quite manipulative, exploitative, and malevolen…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:08 PM
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Can you walk me through how men stand to benefit from small federal government and how women stand to benefit from large federal government?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:37 PM
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Ok so we jumped from the gab is not this big to this gap aways existed? What is next? how it's a good thing? No. We jumped from "the gender gap is not very big" to "the not very big gender gap emerged as a result of the GOP weaponizing religion to drive the sexes apart after abortion became legal in the 1970s."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:03 PM
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The sex based gap in voting has existed since the GOP united three different religious groups to form an ideologically united social conservative platform. The moral majority, their goals; undermine civil rights initiatives, overrule Roe v wade, take away birth control, take away no fault divorce, & push religious gender roles and social ethics. This has been their social platform since the 1970s. Liberals & feminists began disassociating from the GOP and voting democrat as a block after this po…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:33 PM
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I was raised Evangelical Christian. I know what you say is true, lol. The GOP tries to make child rights worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 03:30 PM
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I should not assume you read my reply to the person you replied to. There is a sex based vote gap but it's not as large as you think. As per your reply; I think most people have material interests, feelings, etc and that informs how they vote. It's very difficult to completely remove yourself from your politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 03:26 PM
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All of us are capable of independent thought, but we're also group oriented, we are social animals. Further, this statement invalidates the statement you've replied to. How can women vote as a block and in their self interest if they're sheep voters who will vote for whoever their ingroup tells them to?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 03:06 PM
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There's a sex gap, but it's not as large as you suggest here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 03:02 PM
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Dems are about as cynical and corrupt as the GOP. They would do whatever social thing is popular, but I agree, under their current social platform it is extremely unlikely. The social issues I am most passionate about are centered around children rather than gender-related issues. We're very poor about children's rights. Neither party does a thing about it. >If I were American I'd probably not even bother voting for any side. Our local politics matter a lot more than our national politics. Altho…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 02:13 PM
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Good point lol. They push social conservativism; but that's not the same thing as revoking the draft, ending circumcision, or advocating father's custody rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:09 PM
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Two things: Ideological extremism compounds. A lot of this "my side is more important" attitude is coming from both sides. Research suggests empathy is going down and narcissism is going up. >Empathy 40% decline since 1979 >Narcissism risen by 30%
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:00 PM
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I don't want to delve into my life story, but due to my undiagnosed neurological conditions, I had a difficult upbringing. Regardless, I understood that paying attention in school was important. I ended up always applying the logical information because it existed outside of me and made sense to me. In my teenage years, I became markedly more self aware, due to developing critical thinking skills ...much, much more self aware than I had been up to that point. It's estimated that only 10-15% of p…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 10:13 PM
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Yes and no. Does 4B have criticisms of unexamined patriarchal norms in men, just as MGTOW has criticisms of unexamined feminist advances in women? Yes. They serve similar purposes in this regard. Is 4B also what's safest for some women? Yes, unfortunately. I'm a young woman with ASD and ADHD. This more or less makes me a vulnerable adult. People can usually tell something is off about me shortly after meeting me. I have had a lot of men try to take advantage of me before, nothing permanently dam…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 06:58 PM
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But the issue is that they are treated as defective girls/women for how they already operate. Could you elaborate on the differences at baseline, as well as the communication issues that you see between the sexes?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 01:12 AM
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When it comes to academic feminist forums, like the ones over reddit, yes. These outspoken, ideologically entrenched feminists see men like my brother as either a threat or a non entity. When it comes to the average woman who identifies with feminism, the ladies who want equality of opportunity and equality under the law, they're concerned about young men like my brother as well. The "incel" phenomenon is common with young men who have autism, and I learned this because I have autism as well. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:36 PM
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I've seen what you describe, yes. Some of these responses from women have been deplorable. I can't speak to everyone's circumstances, but sexism certainly goes in both directions. We cannot allow ourselves to become indefinitely embittered toward the opposite sex if we are to instill healthy perceptions in the next generation. I personally believe that all parents of girls should become feminists and all parents of boys should become MRAs, and all parents of both should become both. It should be…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:12 AM
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I had a lot of thoughts while reading this. The "I have a daughter" reasoning bodes poorly for a lot of women. Not because of anything you've said here, but because of the unspoken implications. Everyone has a mother, and to have a daughter suggests you have... had a girlfriend at the very least. They're thinking, "why did it take you having a daughter to start caring?" and a lot of the time it seems like men only grow to care about feminist causes because these things affect their daughters. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:34 PM
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It's upsetting. I do wish people read for the pure fun of it. I love to read fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 04:23 AM
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Thanks. I understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:44 PM
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Oh, I'm sorry. I do not follow the hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:52 PM
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In a long story short type of way, even if 90% of men were great partners if women didn’t desire them it wouldn’t make a difference. If this is going off of dating apps, I do not think dating app data is an accurate reflection of people who date for relationships. People who want one night stands are usually not interested in your character.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:47 PM
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however, I don’t believe 85% of men are between benevolent sexism or incel ideology. Probably still a good percentage of men but not 85% I'm unsure of the spectrum myself, maybe benevolent sexism is the wrong endpoint on the scale. I'm just going off of the stats we have on self awareness. I just want women to be more introspective as a whole as I believe that would alleviate most their issues as it pertains to dating. I wish everyone took time for introspection as well. The world would be a muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:40 PM
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I think this is a really crucial point you bring up. Perhaps my broad insights can help. As a woman with ASD: I have a poor threshold for mentalization relative to most people, and I have to find workarounds to keep myself safe. Theory of mind has been a lifelong challenge. The only thing I can do is observe the people I meet, talk to them, try to gauge their level of self awareness. I do this by watching how people behave in group settings vs a one-on-one dynamic, seeing how they respond to a v…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:19 PM
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"They thought Trump might make grocery bills go down, and they don't care about women's bodily autonomy." A hard reminder that only 10-15% of the population is self aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:07 PM
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This is a good point. Men and women both agree on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:02 PM
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There's also a conscious. The conscious can check the subconscious. Hell, that's why people post here. To check their subconscious bias in a neutral space. I have autism and ADHD. I'm acutely aware when I've offended someone or done something incorrectly. The trouble is figuring out what went wrong and improving.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:15 AM
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Respectfully, that is the topic of the conversation. What women select for. So my answer was pertaining to women. I don't have an unchecked female ingroup bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:08 AM
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I don't have an ingroup to be biased toward. I'm just going off the locality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 12:32 AM
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People have different priorities in life. Some fall prey to the trappings of society and want money, status, fame, power, sexual conquest, influence... others desire more normal things like hobbies/games, education, travel, friendships, problem-solving, having a family... I don't know a ton of women who are pursuing hyper achieving men, although I'll be the first to admit that money/success are as attractive to women as beauty is to men. Both sexes are shallow, it just manifests in different way…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:00 PM
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This is true. Unfortunately in both senses. Lower retail cost and lower production quality across the market. Planned obsolescence has become very bad. https://youtu.be/DHXBacEH0qo?feature=shared
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:42 PM
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The stats I was looking at suggest that most men are trying to get relationships through dating apps, but only the highly attractive men are getting results. Anecdotally, I meet plenty of men IRL who are very interested in hookup culture, but I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 11:17 PM
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This is a fascinating question. On the one hand, you could argue that people used to date with intent to marry and have children. In recent decades cultural liberalism changed the dating dynamic to where people pursue romantic love rather than children. The culture degraded with time, and now we have casual hookup culture. People develop what connection they can with each other and leave when it becomes too stressful to handle. On the other, you could argue that marriage, joint income, and child…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 11:09 PM
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I'm sorry to see you hold such views of gender relations. I wish you well regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 10:15 PM
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I'm one of those toxic modern women brainwashed by feminism. I'm actively engaged in the 4B movement. I don't hold anything approximating this worldview. This is a warped and self serving representation of my opinions. Please consider self reflection and get some mental health guidance from a professional.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 10:07 PM
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Professional women from foreign countries both value education, career and economic success far more and don't have a bitch attitude you see in Americans If you value these things, then of course you will prefer foreign professional women. Lol. We all have different priorities in life. We do not all have the same hierarchy of values. Speaking as an American woman, I like having a bitch attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:21 PM
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