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| Upvotes | Comment on | Subreddit | Date (UTC) |
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| 0 | Herald Sun interviews Paul ElamNone of what you said is an argument to ignore Paul's ignorant remarks | /r/MensRights | 24/08/12 01:10 PM |
| -1 | YSK Paul Elam (A Voice for Men founder) advocates "normalizing pedophilia," & calls r/mensrights users "clueless" & ignorant. He spreads false conspiracy theories about Jews. He blames real victims of rape, & claims to not care about female child abuse. All *IN HIS OWN WORDS.*blaming rape victims: ...he's clearly referring to consensual sex painted as "rape" No he isn't. Just read his words. "Women are responsible for the life circumstances they choose to walk in to, in the same way that we are all responsible for choosing say, to walk into a high crime area at two in the morning singing about our pockets full of money." -- Paul "[People] accuse you of being a rape supporter simply because you suggest that women take some responsibility" -- http://www.reddit.com/r/Me… | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 10:00 PM |
| 0 | YSK Paul Elam (A Voice for Men founder) advocates "normalizing pedophilia," & calls r/mensrights users "clueless" & ignorant. He spreads false conspiracy theories about Jews. He blames real victims of rape, & claims to not care about female child abuse. All *IN HIS OWN WORDS.*So. . . Quoting him directly with a link to the in context quote == "false accusation?" Your logic is very strange. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 09:35 PM |
| 0 | YSK Paul Elam (A Voice for Men founder) advocates "normalizing pedophilia," & calls r/mensrights users "clueless" & ignorant. He spreads false conspiracy theories about Jews. He blames real victims of rape, & claims to not care about female child abuse. All *IN HIS OWN WORDS.*All I do is quote the guy. He either meant what he said, or was speaking non-literally / sarcastically. You pick. Again- I don't call myself a feminist but an egalitarian. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 09:30 PM |
| -1 | YSK Paul Elam (A Voice for Men founder) advocates "normalizing pedophilia," & calls r/mensrights users "clueless" & ignorant. He spreads false conspiracy theories about Jews. He blames real victims of rape, & claims to not care about female child abuse. All *IN HIS OWN WORDS.*Your personal attacks don't change what Paul has said. All I do is quote the guy. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 09:28 PM |
| -1 | YSK Paul Elam (A Voice for Men founder) advocates "normalizing pedophilia," & calls r/mensrights users "clueless" & ignorant. He spreads false conspiracy theories about Jews. He blames real victims of rape, & claims to not care about female child abuse. All *IN HIS OWN WORDS.*All I do is quote the guy. He either meant what he said, or was speaking non-literally / sarcastically. You pick. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 09:27 PM |
| 0 | YSK Paul Elam (A Voice for Men founder) advocates "normalizing pedophilia," & calls r/mensrights users "clueless" & ignorant. He spreads false conspiracy theories about Jews. He blames real victims of rape, & claims to not care about female child abuse. All *IN HIS OWN WORDS.*All I do is quote the guy. He either meant what he said, or was speaking non-literally / sarcastically. You pick. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 09:26 PM |
| 0 | YSK Paul Elam (A Voice for Men founder) advocates "normalizing pedophilia," & calls r/mensrights users "clueless" & ignorant. He spreads false conspiracy theories about Jews. He blames real victims of rape, & claims to not care about female child abuse. All *IN HIS OWN WORDS.*All I do is quote the guy. He either meant what he said, or was speaking non-literally / sarcastically. You pick. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 09:26 PM |
| 0 | YSK Paul Elam (A Voice for Men founder) advocates "normalizing pedophilia," & calls r/mensrights users "clueless" & ignorant. He spreads false conspiracy theories about Jews. He blames real victims of rape, & claims to not care about female child abuse. All *IN HIS OWN WORDS.*Your attempted personal attacks (like not having enough posts) don't change what he said. All he can claim is that he didn't mean something literally- he still said exactly what I quoted him as saying. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 08:55 PM |
| 0 | YSK Paul Elam (A Voice for Men founder) advocates "normalizing pedophilia," & calls r/mensrights users "clueless" & ignorant. He spreads false conspiracy theories about Jews. He blames real victims of rape, & claims to not care about female child abuse. All *IN HIS OWN WORDS.*By quoting him? All he can say is that he didn't mean something literally. If he was speaking literally, he meant all of the things I quoted him saying. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 08:54 PM |
| -1 | Is Rebecca Kamm stupid, or a liar?All I did was quote him. It sounds to me like you're in denial. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 08:47 PM |
| 1 | YSK Paul Elam (A Voice for Men founder) advocates "normalizing pedophilia," & calls r/mensrights users "clueless" & ignorant. He spreads false conspiracy theories about Jews. He blames real victims of rape, & claims to not care about female child abuse. All *IN HIS OWN WORDS.*My account is 5 months old. Your account is 6 months old. . . | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 08:44 PM |
| 0 | YSK Paul Elam (A Voice for Men founder) advocates "normalizing pedophilia," & calls r/mensrights users "clueless" & ignorant. He spreads false conspiracy theories about Jews. He blames real victims of rape, & claims to not care about female child abuse. All *IN HIS OWN WORDS.*Personal attacks towards me do not change the fact that this guy's comments (and how he's viewed as some sort of internet leader) embarrass r/mensrights. He needs to move-on & let more modern thinking people replace him as the main MR blogger. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 08:39 PM |
| 0 | YSK Paul Elam (A Voice for Men founder) advocates "normalizing pedophilia," & calls r/mensrights users "clueless" & ignorant. He spreads false conspiracy theories about Jews. He blames real victims of rape, & claims to not care about female child abuse. All *IN HIS OWN WORDS.*Not edited: I only [shortened] some (with [] marks) & posted the link right under the quotes. Know this: the only way he didn't mean those things is if he wasn't speaking literally. (Just like politicians claim after they say something really stupid.) | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 08:34 PM |
| -1 | YSK Paul Elam (A Voice for Men founder) advocates "normalizing pedophilia," & calls r/mensrights users "clueless" & ignorant. He spreads false conspiracy theories about Jews. He blames real victims of rape, & claims to not care about female child abuse. All *IN HIS OWN WORDS.*This guy's rape-victim-blaming (etc) is well known & he's making men's rights look bad. He's embarrassing us. I'm hoping more r/mensrights readers will realize how he needs to quit & let some other blogger take over. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 08:32 PM |
| -1 | YSK Paul Elam (A Voice for Men founder) advocates "normalizing pedophilia," & calls r/mensrights users "clueless" & ignorant. He spreads false conspiracy theories about Jews. He blames real victims of rape, & claims to not care about female child abuse. All *IN HIS OWN WORDS.*If you want to have a campaign to normalize pedophilia, by all means, and lots of luck. The only way he isn't saying what I described (that the only reason to not legalize pedophilia is that it makes men look bad) is to assume his words mean the opposite of what he actually said. (ie, was speaking sarcastically / non-literally.) Politicians cover-up misspeaking all the time by claiming they didn't mean something literally: they say something stupid/revealing, then claim they meant the opposite, … | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 08:31 PM |
| 0 | YSK Paul Elam (A Voice for Men founder) advocates "normalizing pedophilia," & calls r/mensrights users "clueless" & ignorant. He spreads false conspiracy theories about Jews. He blames real victims of rape, & claims to not care about female child abuse. All *IN HIS OWN WORDS.*Politicians misspeak all the time & then claim they didn't mean what they said- they still said it. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 08:25 PM |
| -1 | YSK Paul Elam (A Voice for Men founder) advocates "normalizing pedophilia," & calls r/mensrights users "clueless" & ignorant. He spreads false conspiracy theories about Jews. He blames real victims of rape, & claims to not care about female child abuse. All *IN HIS OWN WORDS.*Nothing false. Every statement is quoted accurately, I added [these marks] when I shortened something. You can look at the original statements in the links. Also, I don't call myself a "feminist," but an "egalitarian." Your attempt to personally attack me (to avoid what Paul has said) is ad hominem. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 08:16 PM |
| 0 | YSK Paul Elam (A Voice for Men founder) advocates "normalizing pedophilia," & calls r/mensrights users "clueless" & ignorant. He spreads false conspiracy theories about Jews. He blames real victims of rape, & claims to not care about female child abuse. All *IN HIS OWN WORDS.*If you want to have a campaign to normalize pedophilia, by all means, and lots of luck. The only way he isn't, is if his words mean the opposite of what he actually said because he was speaking sarcastically / non-literally. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 08:15 PM |
| -1 | YSK Paul Elam (A Voice for Men founder) advocates "normalizing pedophilia," & calls r/mensrights users "clueless" & ignorant. He spreads false conspiracy theories about Jews. He blames real victims of rape, & claims to not care about female child abuse. All *IN HIS OWN WORDS.*modified! Incorrect. In reality I [shortened] the ending, & provided a link to the original comment. The only way you can argue that he wasn't arguing for normalizing pedophilia is if you claim his words mean the opposite of what he said. (Like if he wasn't talking literally.) So. . . Which is it? That A) His statement is not to be taken literally. (If this is your argument, you don't have to pretend the statement is changed.) Or B) that [shortening] it a little changes it. It doesn't- his words… | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 08:14 PM |
| 3 | How about a men's rights course?This is dangerous for men's rights in the long-term. For example, look what classrooms did to feminism/women's studies: they financially incentivized the movement to never die, even once an issue stops being relevant. . All philosophy-selling industries face this financial corruption. Once you create an industry for a philosophy (classes, books, etc) then there's financial incentive to exaggerate & lie to keep having income & power. In other words, I hope that men's rights will never become an i… | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 10:54 PM |
| 1 | TIL the dowry was NOT a means by which men "purchased" their wives.Anyone else told these same lies? I was. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 10:42 PM |
| 6 | What I want as an equalist (X-post with TwoXChromosomes)The term is "egalitarian"..."equalist" is the term people who don't know what they're talking about proposed because they weren't aware of the term "egalitarian". I disagree. Using "equalist" is just evolving the language. "Egalitarian" is an old-fashion way of saying "equalist." Please don't speak so insulting towards people who disagree with you. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 02:14 PM |
| 2 | We need a Men's Rights Talk Show on Youtube (Idea)Of course, however I hope it'd focus on giving MR users a voice. (And not being a personality show for one guy.) If the show became a personality show, it could allow one guy to make the MRM look bad. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 01:55 PM |
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