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everything is projection, some projection is adequate and some is not. do you self-reflect about your own projection here?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:43 PM
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i disagree and i'm starting to think you commented with the goal of being negative yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:30 PM
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congrats on getting your life together! i think she's a little negative but i don't get the feeling she's that lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:03 PM
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"women are not a necessity at all. Keeping them out of my life has brought me nothing but peace and joy. " Which kind of women do you believe such a man would attract?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:04 PM
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You dont think you attract what you deserve?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:01 PM
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Wym?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:56 PM
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there's a reason this is the only kinda guy she gets to know. it's not the average man, it's the average of the men that are interested in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:48 AM
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Exactly my point. The want the attantion and approval as a sign of their attraction from lesser men, but they only want equal or higher men to act on it. This is the reason for the existance of "creeps". Its guys who dont understand their sexuality should stay an object.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:52 PM
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The point is that the more 7s are attracted to her, the more likely a 9 will act on it, because he assumes she's a 9
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:47 PM
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He is a sign of how attractive she is for other men who she wants to act on their attraction. Demand is high, so she's "worth" more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:25 PM
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Im not talking about their views. Im talking about how using tactics that are generally recognized as toxic masculinity are used once the enemy seems worthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 07:18 AM
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Partly correct. Being attractive for most men is a signal towards high value men they are attractive. Women want all men to be attracted to them, they just dont want them to act on it unless the men themselves are. Men get objectified to be a sign of the attractiveness of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:23 AM
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Watch greta thumborg show the most toxic masculinity when shes fighting andrew tate. There's no principle. When people feel they are right, they become vile monsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:18 AM
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And whether you feel good during that relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 02:14 PM
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Nice
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:13 AM
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I mean, there's really lots of different people, and if someone shames you for enjoying life just ignore the idiot
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:08 AM
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Is this society as a whole in the room with us right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 07:54 AM
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men literally went to war to impress women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 09:49 PM
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The combination of those are not average my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 08:13 AM
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so you'd rather wanna race to the bottom of caring for a partners need? this is how you filter to the worst people who don't give a shit about anything you need and want. half of dating is how to screen for those people so the energy and time spent interacting with them goes towards zero, but you seem to be searching and filtering for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 05:00 AM
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The wall is staying in the mindset of being victim to uncrolled need for approval
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 07:50 PM
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you seem like the only one who got his feelings hurt i'm just saying it's stupid to stay in this frame of justifications
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:49 PM
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it's bizarre, but when you look at how power developed during the enlightenment it's understandable. you can criticize how social needs become more and more dependent on money (power) and still feel the need to have more money, because it's power.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:29 PM
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honestly who the fuck cares what anybody else values in a man or in a woman. you're playing the game of who lets themself objectify the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:18 PM
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If you look at feminists, its just women being toxic masculine
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 04:15 AM
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you sound like a very loving father
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:11 PM
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based again!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:09 PM
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we all make mistakes, parents job is to not let you make life threatening ones
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:09 PM
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no, the question was "how do you react"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:08 PM
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yah
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:07 PM
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based. are you rp or bp?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:07 PM
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i wanna see who is actually a masculine guy and who pretends to be, and with 15 years she is 100% not an adult
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:06 PM
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so what do you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:04 PM
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so you stop her but not him, interesting. you're redpill, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:04 PM
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you know 15yo girls
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:03 PM
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so you stop her but not him. noble.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:03 PM
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sounds good to me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:02 PM
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allright, she's thinking about it on the way to the airport
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 07:01 PM
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you'd use violence on your daughter for falling in love with a scammer but don't talk about what you'd do to him? you BP?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 06:58 PM
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of course he booked it for her. do you think he's an amateur?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 06:57 PM
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lots of talk, very little action, how do you stop her?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 06:56 PM
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so you want your genes to die out? sounds beta. what actions would you do to stop it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 06:55 PM
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she's in love and booked the flight. what do you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 06:52 PM
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you would tell this to you daughter that if she's so weak to fall for him it's basically her own fault? i can see why she'd fall for him. i'm not here to dunk, i'm wondering if RP philosophy brings up daughters that fall victim to RP philosophy and how RP (or BP) fathers would handle such a situation. boys of feminists fail in unprecedented ways. i assume the same will happen for daughters of RP. just curious. just like feminism this probably will be a movement that takes 2 generations for the k…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 06:52 PM
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she's in love and wants to go there. he said he loved her and he promised to marry her, you think a serious discussion will solve this?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 06:44 PM
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the thing humans have been speaken of for hundreds of thousands of years
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 07:03 PM
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how so?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 11:44 AM
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hm, so you say when those guys with those nagging pain-in-the-ass mothers searched for women they actually thought they'd get a submissive one, that they yearned for, but got a nagging pain-in-ass-GF in processing stage. i think we actually agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 01:29 PM
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that's funny, i never once heard a man confess his love for nagging pain-in-the-ass GFs, i must know the wrong people if you know so much of them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 01:15 PM
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and they are the ones that want the submissive ones, no? you don't see men having submissive wives proclaiming their need and search for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 12:35 PM
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lots of men see their mother or other female figures ruthlessly nagging and submitting their husbands. so they think by overcompensating in the other direction things will be better. they feel disempowered societally and think that having a comfort zone or a trigger free zone at home works. i understand the sentiment that they don't want a loveless person as wife. i don't think that's the way to go, however. but yeah, without introspection you're bound to revive the mistakes of your parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 10:05 PM
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glad to be of help, anytime
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 08:29 PM
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you like fat chicks taking advantage of you. making you lick their thick sweety pussylips while they a nacho or a sausage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 08:17 PM
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nothing, really, just a lil chat maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 08:16 PM
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need help brother?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 07:55 PM
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what if he prostitutes you for fat chicks?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 07:54 PM
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why would you say i'm butthurt? i'm just calling out toxic behavior, that's piling up on the problem these people have. if you don't want to understand, but only reinforce hate, that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 07:08 PM
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did you use the term incel to hurt the person? then it's obviously hatespeech. you're using it to spew hate. at least be honest about it. it's a first step. i think trying to devalue and hurt people is not really a very healthy "functioning" in social situations. i don't know how you have been raised, but this isn't it. sorry to be blunt about it. if you wanna help improve the situation, there's always a way without hate. but hate will just reinforce hate, it's literally the oldest myth in the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 06:26 PM
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calling people the hatespeech word "incel", calling them insufferable, saying they never had female friends. you're just spouting of hate, makes me think you didn't have had good friends who were there for you when you were lowest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:44 PM
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why are you so mean then?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:41 PM
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yeah, you wouldn't
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:38 PM
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very shaky camera
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:38 PM
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same for you with male friends
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:37 PM
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gay friendS, as in many gay friends, they probably have mutual sexual attraction for each other
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:36 PM
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"mutual"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:35 PM
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it's probably because they see men not helping men. reach out to your brothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:04 PM
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what if one day he gets your daughter and prostitutes her to guys like me?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 03:16 PM
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That's the spirit!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 11:15 AM
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Not my name, but Just love them with all my heart Earn eternal forgiveness by sacrifice Sex Unite body and soul under heavenly approval Sex again
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 10:22 AM
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being loud doesn't equal being right
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:46 PM
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looks more like you're looking up towards me, like that's your preference to look up while talking
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:22 PM
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stop laughing and don't tell anyone, allright?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:21 PM
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just because i can pick people up doesn't mean i love and desire them. i'm not a horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 04:55 PM
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lmao what's with the emoticon? are you symbolizing looking up towards me?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 04:54 PM
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for you it's perfect. you ever asked what he feels about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 04:11 PM
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this is an incredible betrayal if she broke your trust and forced you by dumping the baby on you this is not about gender roles but about integrity, imo if a woman is so "enthusiastic" of cooking and cleaning, she didn't think it through and this will lead to problems down the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:21 PM
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OP said to ask two question which 100% of women would answer with yes instead of starting an honest and clear negotiation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:10 PM
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so what you actually wanna talk about is how to divide the housework vs money work. that's perfectly fine and should be talked about. but this is a question of intention, not ability. just be straight up with your questions, makes all a lot easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:00 PM
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so you shouldn't ask her if she cooks and cleans, but if she's willing to be responsible of the household. why be so confused about it, makes you look weak, maybe she'll work and you cook with this passive aggressiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:52 PM
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5'4-5'5 different strokes for different folks
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:50 PM
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exactly why would you allow the leaders of your group to be weak and pathetic while condemning it for the other group?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:49 PM
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next ask them if they know how to wipe ass cooking and cleaning is literally the bottom of a barrel. why do you wanna make yourself dependent on women in something this basic?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:48 PM
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do you actually not know the joy of cooking? have you never felt the pride of cooking for your loved ones and seeing them completely satisfied after the meal? this is nothing that you should feel deprived of just because you're a man!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:46 PM
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oh i see. perfect difference in height is 10-20cm in my opinion. like around 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:44 PM
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didn't you just admit to have lower standards for your ingroup than for the outgroup? did you lie to me or do you actually stand by the statement that you allow for lower standards in your ingroup than you would ever allow for the outgroup?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:43 PM
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wouldn't this make you political alignment weaker than it needs to be? why include the weak while you despise them in the out-group? while it is perfectly fine to include the weak when the greater ideology preaches equality, like my in-group, it seems completely irrational to do it in your case. almost like denying human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:39 PM
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i do, kissing gets weird, dancing is weird, walking hand in hand feels a little childlike. it's not that i got pains from it, it felt unintuitive. but tbh, the entitlement in saying "my minimum is 6'2''" is probably more the turnoff than the height to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:37 PM
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do you agree you do this as well, for the in-group of your political alligned fellows, to have lower standards for them than for the outgroup?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:36 PM
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it's not women that are known to not be able to cook or clean
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:34 PM
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i'm 6'2 and 5'3 is waaaaay too short
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:32 PM
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funny how she's implying she has a good personality for not being cute
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 11:49 AM
0

why is he being a rapist? they slept with him by their own free will
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 10:59 AM
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I'm a libtard and i don't deny this. Now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 10:46 AM
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That's his point, that you hate on type of generalization but the other has not emotional impact on you. The judgement of what we deem bigoted might be bigoted itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 10:43 AM
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grandfather works 12 hours a day in the mine unemployed 4chan neckbeard "i literally have to work 4 times harder moving my mouse. life is so unfair"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 09:11 AM
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talks about looking for validation posts lmao, the hypocrisy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:56 AM
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Number is probably even higher with men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:18 AM
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Do you think there are some men that are as undesirable and bad for society as there are some women that are undesireable and bad for society?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:58 AM
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Why did he need to invent it, we could have had world peace by now
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:55 AM
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so you claim. but i don't see any galactical fornication happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 07:35 PM
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i assumed you were a multifocal identify changer, sometimes with a polar identity of identity theft identity. sorry bro, got you figured out. whups, now the unoutfigureable identity coming up, am i right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 05:01 PM
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that's what i assumed you were. the only racist here, my friendly helicopter-monkey, is YOU
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 04:24 PM
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as another male don't let them talk you out of fucking the toaster. it's your god given right.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 03:52 PM
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I did assume correctly, didnt i 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:37 AM
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Never too late to start on your reading skills, great job
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:19 PM
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you're missing the point, those women try to elevate their status by punching down (like you do, lol), but they actually just objectify female sexuality as status symbol for men. quite sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:38 PM
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instead you rather objectify sexual access to women to degrade those already degraded men. you truly are the hero here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:36 PM
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who hurt you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:35 PM
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of course people have souls, it's scientifically proven
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:34 PM
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why are you trying to shame men for health issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:06 AM
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calling other people incels is what incels would do
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:48 AM
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you don't have a best guess why women try to silence men they don't like by calling them incels instead of calling them assholes or misogynists? you seem to be seeing a very tiny picture, a very specifically chosen picture, if you don't see women calling men incels or virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:48 AM
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preach it brother
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:34 AM
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it actually is, men have souls too
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:23 AM
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the qualifier is sexual access to women. it objectifies women as status symbol. you don't call gay men incels. don't delude yourself, calling men incels is extremely misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:22 AM
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again, why call them incel then instead of directly addressing the misogyny? at least admit that sexual access to women is a social pressure for men. if you then don't see the inherent misogyny, the objectification of women as status symbol, of using incel as an insult, i can't help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:17 AM
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Why call them incels then? The word just means "person who doesnt fuck". Why not call them trash instead? Seems like not fucking is absolutely the center of that insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:30 AM
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Incel has the same meaning as virgin: one who doesnt fuck. Do i need to argue how this is the most used shaming tactics towards men? That "one who doesnt fuck" got synonymous in your mind with "one who hates women" is really a better argument than i could ever have presented. If you don't think women use this as a shaming tactic in social power plays it doesnt mean that it isnt happening, but that you have become blind to it, because it's happening all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:28 AM
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That's surprising, i see it all the time. The shaming of virgins isnt about sex but about social power of course. Do you believe women don't use the term incel to shame men to exercise social power? Incel is the modern virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:38 AM
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You think men are just bodies? They have a soul too, maybe cool it with the misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:22 AM
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Psychologizing is the new insulting. Why not disprove her point instead of attacking her as a person? If you really thought what you wrote you wouldnt just pile up on her
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:19 AM
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This seems? Where does your assumption come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:17 AM
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be nice to yourself, all problems you mentioned solved and you still can be nice to others
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 06:59 PM
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Women abuse as much as men, they just institutionalized gaslighting into feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:57 AM
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there's no people
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:19 PM
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who cares about either?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:10 PM
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they can male fashion models are not league defining, though. it's like female programmers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 06:59 PM
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didn't you just tell us a story about a girl fucking someone out of your league?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:56 PM
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sounds like you're in the league of fashion models. congrats!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:15 PM
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probably true, also women who like giving blowjobs have a small clitoris, it's basically science
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 04:09 PM
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it's just some pixels. you're doubling more on your photography skills than to anything else at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:25 AM
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It's not as successful for men as it is for women, portraying yourself as victimized
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 06:40 AM
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online has become real life
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 08:55 PM
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you think you'll get matches by swiping left?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 08:11 PM
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it's for people wanting the power of class, and reaching for an alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 06:29 PM
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OP asked for women and men to respond, i am one of those two, so i responded. you have a problem with something that doesn't even regard you? call the mods
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 12:07 PM
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but men can answer too "but men can answer too" maybe read the question before correcting people for doing what OP asked
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 11:21 AM
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(man here) you looking to improve is a good sign. one big lesson i had to learn, regarding improvements, is that once you start to improve, you wanna see if it actually was an improvement. being very attentive to the reaction of a woman you date might be perceived as dependency on the judgement of her, which some women have problems with and find unattractive. when you wanna improve, you put more importance on some form of ideal of yourself. the difference between that ideal and what you actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 08:29 AM
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i think there's no need to make rules about what's happening in social relationships that are defined by "100% with no exceptions" shit is complex, there's lots and lots of reasons happening for stuff. we got lots of neural pathways, lots of hormones (if you wanna get materialistic about it) that dictate different perspectives. people like community, but they also like personal freedom. some like relationships without any sense of transaction in it, sometimes, but other times, highly transaction…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 08:23 AM
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If the reason is emotional investement it's not transactional. You're contradicting yourself. Next you'll tell me people mourn their loved ones because they didnt pay out the investement before they died.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 08:35 PM
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never in the history of humanity was there talk about human made destruction of nature. this period is not the cleanest, it's probably the most dirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 12:44 PM
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women have had to work all of humanity. material conditions improved.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 12:43 PM
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you do know not every fuck ends in pregnancy, right? there's nothing disingenuous about my comment. i didn't even assume you wouldn't get laid, nor did i speak about it. i got no kids either. that's why i don't make strong and loud prescriptions for others how to behave in regards to kids. says nothing about me having little or much sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 10:04 AM
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Who are you responding to? I never insulted you, i never shamed you. I said for someone who actually doesnt have kids in wedlock, you talk very confidently about only having kids in wedlock. It's you who tries to shame people, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 09:14 AM
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oh so you're talking very confidently and loudly about a thing you never experienced, very interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 08:35 AM
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How many children in wedlock have you had?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 06:38 AM
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Reducing complex problems to a single issue with easy to blame scapegoats is more debilitating
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 06:37 AM
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do you actually believe only a woman can do these and a man can't? do you believe men don't have pre-whale phase pics, men are inable to become crack addicts? do you believe men don't age AT ALL? all these things aren't exclusive to women, with exception to makeup, but at this point in time it's just a thing women do. men can additionally lie about status symbols, which they often do. none of these are doing your argument any good, in fact, thanks for making my argument for me!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 07:22 AM
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a man doesn't realize he's asking out a 4/10? this is a claim that's just surreal
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:23 PM
1

how is that different from hvw with lvm?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:14 PM
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A hvm wouldnt go on a date with a lvw but to fuck her. Which means he is not emotionally stable (sex-driven) and not non-manipulative and not supportive. He is objectivizing her. I'm not saying this to judge him, i'm just saying he doesnt fit your very own definition of high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:52 AM
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Women don't get to sample that sort of hvm either if that's the quality we're talking about. I thought we were just talking about attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 05:37 AM
1

It's true though, generally speaking. Women bear the fruit of the labour, the child, so they want the relationshop aka help more than the men, who doesnt actually need help. Downstream from this truth of mammals of course there's sublte outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 07:36 PM
1

sure, they look great! why would men wanna fuck them otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 04:10 PM
2

What does yikes mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 01:10 PM
1

Men can sample with prostitutes as well
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 01:10 PM
6

Also good point
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 01:02 PM
0

Good point
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 01:02 PM
5

Modern feminists are subverting feminism by making patriarchy sound based af.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 09:32 AM
2

you know obese people actually die younger? as a healthy man you may not want to go through the excruciating pain of losing the love of your life early. you: "nope, you don't deserve that"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 09:32 PM
1

only manliness is going to jail, everything other is beta
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:34 PM
2

Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:13 AM
1

Sunlight is good against the feeling of desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 08:48 AM
14

This mindset is probably the reason you're not a hot young educated woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:47 PM
5

Why do you guys care so much about money. Just go look at the sun it's beautiful, no money needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:46 PM
1

nice
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:03 PM
1

one divorce is two people, thus it's affecting 20% of divorces. 100 divorces between 100 women and 100 men 10% of women get incentivized to divorce -> + 10 divorces 10% of men get incentivized not to divorce -> - 10 divorces makes a difference of 20 divorces skewing to women initiating
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:07 PM
1

the problem isn't even the maths but the assumptions underlying it. wouldn't expect you to get it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:24 PM
1

Imagine the gov giving women alimony 10% of the time, but the man loses nothing. That would be one 10% incentive and skew the percentage of who initiates. But now the gov gives women nothing, women also don't get anything from the man, but the man needs to pay the gov an amount equal to that of alimony 10% of the time. This would skew the percentage a second time towards women by penalizing men for initiating. Add both together, women getting incentivized and men getting penalized, and you get d…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:00 PM
1

As long as they treat their man like a ten i see no problems
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:01 AM
2

To you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:51 AM
1

One 10% is the incentive for the woman to initiate, another 10% is the fear of men to initiate because he might pay. This leads to skewed incentives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:22 AM
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It's not rare. 10% is huge. 1/10 women would be sure to get it. 1/10 men would be sure to pay it. Makes 1/5. Huge.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 08:46 AM
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10% * 2 (10% reward, 10% risk) makes 1/5. How is this not an extremely high factor?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 08:16 AM
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If you have a 10% chance of being rewarded you'll do it more easily than if you have a 10% chance of being destroyed. Difference already would account for 1/5 breakups alone, let alone secundary effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 08:14 AM
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Yes. It is better! Nice talking to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:03 PM
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well this is what the post is about, no? men become illogical when they try to swoon women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 05:41 PM
2

well yeah, overly sexual, but do they shame other men for being sexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 05:35 PM
0

i'm just asking, i don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 05:32 PM
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"too"? porn is there to stimulate for masturbation. it doesn't need to be realistic socially. movies on the other hand try to tell a story. don't tell me you believe men aren't being shamed for being virgins by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:43 PM
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I don't believe you. This is much too common even in movies for you to never have seen it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:05 PM
6

All men or only heterosexual men? Gay men seem to have a different mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:21 PM
9

This is the flipside of women shaming men for being virgins but then complain for being objectified for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:20 PM
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I don't think you have established the relationship with me to tell me to go fuck myself. Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 12:27 PM
4

Why would you randomly insult the reader? Unhinged
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 11:51 AM
1

you are calling me a dick. this is rude. stop gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:46 PM
1

why are you so mean to me? i try to engage and understand your argument. just pointing to the footnotes of a single study and thinking everyone is convinced of a non-disclosed argument is just not convincing of anything. the argument might be convincing if it would be clear what you're trying to say. it's such a drag to even get there , though. you: "no; women literally fuck, marry, and get knocked up by convicted violent criminals" i quote your very own study: "Hence, on average, offenders have…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:11 PM
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"try to stop playing a dick for a minute" there's no need to be defensive, i'm just here for your point of view. apparently it's not that convincing. who are you quoting here exactly? what are you actually trying to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:30 PM
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what does table 5 say on your side? here i read: "Dispensed prescriptions for podophyllotoxina as a function of criminal offender status (based on convictions in 1973–2009) among men and women born in 1958–1995 and who lived in Sweden at age 15."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 04:24 PM
1

it's really something you'd wanna avoid as a parent
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 01:36 PM
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yeah, imagine being one year old and looking like eleven. very strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 01:28 PM
1

the more men jump out of the dating market the easier it gets for me!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 02:58 PM
4

Even worse
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 06:51 AM
1

Have you tried paragliding with friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 06:50 AM
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there's no such thing as red pill or blue pill. there's pussy dependency and pussy independency. whatever the rational, you can be the most red pill men, when you're pussy dependent you act pussy dependent. pussy dependency is a spectrum of different intensive assumption your worth as a human is dependent on female approval. your whole post is reinforcing the narrative of pussy dependency (might be a good thing for you)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 07:18 PM
1

he should ask the fish how to catch them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:34 PM
0

how many fish did the fisherman actually have consentual sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:09 PM
1

tell this all the women who act like dating is getting caught
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:53 PM
1

men make more money than women (objectively) so they can pay for sex in case their video game breaks, nooo.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 08:53 PM
2

Rich people and poor people have it just as hard rich people can get robbed for example
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:39 PM
0

same with tits
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 10:38 AM
0

they're not friends then
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 09:45 PM
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no, when you genuinely wanted to become friends and developed feelings afterwards noone would call you a stupid dirty pig.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 07:46 PM
1

any society has bounds to balance individual benefits against individual detriments that lead to collective detriments. they main mechanism of this is guilt and shame. in the extreme cases we have laws, but for softer cases we have "social norms". it's illegal to steal because individual benefits would lead to huge collective detriments. (person 1 steals, person 2 starts stealing, no security of property no stability of investements) it's legal to be rude, but we have social mechanism of guiltin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 06:59 PM
1

of course. which part?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 06:14 PM
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the better the impression the better the prospects. being competent in understanding and enacting your interests in the bounds of social norms is VERY attractive. it's what we're humans are hardwired to strive for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 06:04 PM
1

politeness is about being aware of and respecting general social rules of engagement. now, in that frame of rules, you still need to make a case for hooking up or having a relationship. you need to act on your wants. if you're too scared to make a move, that's just not what politeness is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 05:54 PM
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interesting, in my experience it very much does.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 05:46 PM
1

great, we agree! thinking emotional intelligence is about providing emotional support is a sign of low emotional intelligence
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 05:45 PM
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i think being polite is what treating women as people is about. what do you think treating women as people is about? it's good general advice, and it's good specific advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 05:41 PM
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i'm confused. what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 05:36 PM
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strong disagree. do we agree that the way you get to know and ask out a woman is deciding on whether you get a date or not? how comfortable you are in the situation basically decides whether you are seen as creep or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 05:35 PM
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why would you listen to them if they are wrong about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 05:28 PM
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sure, i agree with that. but treating people as people is something very different from being friends. treating waiters as people, you don't exchange numbers. you just treat them with respect in the bounderies of the respective roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 05:27 PM
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can you reformulate, i don't understand your sentence or what you wanna express with it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 05:25 PM
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do you think fun is not an emotion? confidence is very much a feeling you have about yourself. if you lack emotional intelligence you're not gonna be confident. it's not one dimensional.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 05:22 PM
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i don't get it. the advice generally is "wanna fuck, be human". which is pretty solid advice. being dishonest about your sexuality just puts most people off, in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 04:58 PM
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hell yeah. good people all around if you ignore some bad apples on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 04:29 PM
-1

Daft no insults! sex is about chemistry between two people, honestly i don't even understand why you would WANNA bang anyone you don't feel as a person. being dishonest is just a perfectly good strategy to not having fun sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 04:26 PM
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i mean the sex is better, why not do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 04:23 PM
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how is being charismatic, jovial, fun and confident not emotional intelligence?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 04:22 PM
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yeah, what's wrong with that? when you socialize you treat people like people. when you do instinctual activities like sex, sportive competition you let your animal out. don't tell me this is news to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 04:05 PM
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you can make your intentions clear AND treat people as people
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 03:28 PM
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i mean don't you wanna enter a romantic relationship with a person you "treat as people"?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 03:28 PM
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They are attracted to the person whose life leads towards optical sexiness. A fat person would also have a non-active life probably. But it's not the optics themselves. It's what they are a symptom of. How does status shape the looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 01:24 PM
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friendzone and fuckzone, two sides of a coin
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 11:32 AM
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It's not, look at the homelesd people
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 01:09 AM
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Your looks highly depend on your social success
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 06:01 PM
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sounded like you were agreeing to me. which comments did you disagree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 04:25 PM
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i'm just saying you're barking up the wrong tree when saying it's the worst time in history for anything when it's your social anxiety speaking. when 1/4th of men have zero or only one friend maybe OLD is more a symptom than a rootproblem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 03:23 PM
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you need to be successful only once, yeah. i don't think that's the best framing though. i don't think dating is THAT different from other social interactions. the more comfy you get with being around people the better dating becomes. the more you think the world is a bad and horrible place the less comfy you are around people. sure, the mechanics are probably more complicated than that, but it boils down pretty easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 02:28 PM
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the biggest problem with being successful in modern dating is how much you perceive modern dating as a problem and just unreflectively think everything and everyone but you is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 01:30 PM
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i know an aspie with a kid. i'm not so stillfocused on the spectrum either and i have way more unattractive traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 05:49 PM
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thumbed up!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 04:43 PM
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i believe you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 03:46 PM
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lmao thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 03:17 PM
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Most men get socialized to treat women better than men. This is perfectly fine. But some of this socialization makes them suppress disagreeableness towards women where it actually would be very beneficial and healthy for them. In adulthood they fail and see other people succeed by being healthy disagreeable. They perceive this as "bad boy" behavior and since they suppressed this healthy disagreeableness in themselves they get very conflicted about it. Women however just perceive this as healthy …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 08:53 AM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 07:39 PM
1

Op claimed it was
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 07:13 PM
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a movie actress playing a slut?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 06:26 PM
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"yeah i know i'm not that tall but look at those beautiful pants" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 06:13 PM
5

why is judging a woman by her looks a bad idea, but judging her by her clothes suddenly clever?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 06:06 PM
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i'm sorry to hear! i don't think my answer is very redpill, but i'm glad i didn't waste energy on engaging honestly and thoughtfully with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:21 PM
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correct, the field, but not the game and the rules. that's why kids can play the game with a can.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:56 PM
1

you want a real answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:51 PM
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i love sports. played basketball for long time. but come on, i can't deny i'm highly superstitious and magically thinking in loving sports. it's just plain obvious. football goals don't exist neither. without you perceiving the goal no goal is happening. the line is imaginary, only symbolized by a real line. with noone knowing the rules, believing in the rules, the sport crumbles. everybody believes in it, so it isn't too weird that people believe in it. but it's 100% a believe not based in natu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:47 PM
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no problem, i thought so, it seems we agreed from the start
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:43 PM
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dude, i'm just saying attraction is a process working by natural laws. we not fully understanding it is not indicative of it being irrational, but our understanding coming too short. why would this be wrong? where do you read that i'm shaming it? most people rationalize the world so they are better than they actually are. it's a motivational benefit with the cost of some truth. when the world in reality is different they say it's irrational. tough luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:38 PM
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why are you so combative? i literally agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:21 PM
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football works till the moment you don't believe in it. exactly 100% the same as ghosts. you just believe in it. it's perfectly fine to be superstitious, but you should be honest enough to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:18 PM
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"i just feel it" means you don't understand why. i think that's fine. the lack of humility comes in when a person needs to assert why everything happens and rationalize it. it's overacting. it's fine to be a little passive and accept things for what they are without control. my best guess: people have been hurt and you can't control that! so they do everything to avoid it, which means rationalizing. it's better to sometimes get hurt but keep the wonder of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:14 PM
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How so? It is. Soccer only works if you believe in it, which is the same people say about ghosts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 03:20 PM
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It doesnt make sense to invest huge amounts of energy to do work that has no benefit in material resources. It's dysfunctional in a natural sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 02:57 PM
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Change my view. The type of thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 02:00 PM
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Why do a CMV in that case?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 01:58 PM
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Was saying what? OP was clearly signaling worth with how he dismissed 4 girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 01:54 PM
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Supernatural: event not explainable or governed by the laws of nature Superstitious: (unchecked) belief in supernatural occurence
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 01:52 PM
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Nobody asked you to give reason. Just don't boost your ego by the devaluation of others, and you should be fine. It's not complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 01:44 PM
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Ah, admitting defeat. Nobody claimed it doesnt. But when you use the rejection of other people as an egoboost you shouldnt wonder when they feel ill towards you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 01:34 PM
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Agree, and well adjusted people say "no" in non hurtful ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 01:28 PM
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Grown people actually do realize the pain they evoke in other people is partly their responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 01:26 PM
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I think being empathic is often enough. Just don't view their pain as your boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 01:13 PM
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Rejection is an art, not some egoboost
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 01:07 PM
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Yeah, and to be frank, rationality is a bit overrated. There's good arguments for having the humility to admit you can't understand everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 01:06 PM
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She didnt even work there anymore, how could she even influence the other people
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 12:55 PM
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Couldnt be his personality. He's so cool rejecting people who he deems below him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 12:54 PM
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If you think attraction is irrational, maybe it's you applying the wrong reasoning. Attraction is perfectly rational, most people just don't like the reasons and simply deny it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 12:38 PM
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Yeah, men should strive to mate, it's important. They should not feel this attack on their basic worth for failing. Using incel as an insult is part of the problem. There's lots of hate towards male sexuality and this is another symptom of it, imo. People should not receive hate and disgust for being what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 11:21 AM
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So, our cognition is able to reach towards the natural or the supernatural. Animals have some form of cognition as well, but they don't make that reach. Take sex and porn. Humans have sex, and our cognition is involved in this. We plan a date, we dress nicely, we try to charm. The basis of all this is natural. When we jerk off to porn, this is moving towards the supernatural, because we feel like we interact with natural reality (boner, arousal, orgasm) but we don't actually engage with the real…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 10:02 AM
1

What properties do they ascribe to the term energy that it doesnt have?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 08:50 AM
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Yeah, that's actually a very good point. But wouldnt this be tue same for women as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 10:10 PM
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Dude, that's one theory of mine. There was always incels. But they didnt socialize, so they never realized how many there were. Now, online, they realize it's kinda a systemic problem and it's not just them being unworthy, but there's tons of men. So they revolte against the system. Kinda scary, if you ask me. And then at least they find community there, but this also kills their chance for healthy interaction with women, just like you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 10:01 PM
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Hehe, true true. You got it!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 09:59 PM
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Hell yeah, that's great to hear. I'm sure she feels the same way about you, she snagged a jewel of a man! I think there's lots of people nowadays who reinforce their worst fears and then clash onto other groups who also reinforced their own worst fears. And it has become easy to just stay at home not socializing. But we need it to feel healthy, even without dating. But yeah, no solution on my side.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 09:50 PM
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I feel you, i went through a similar path. There's also some ambivalence with autism. I once met a asperger autist and after half an hour he tapped my shoulder in a friendly manner and said "welcome to the club". I think there's a few possibilities where one can meet new people without it feeling forced. I came to the conclusion that interacting with the good brings me more towards the good than interacting with the bad, which was probably my initial intuition. I think many people feel that way,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 09:46 PM
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sounds like you're making progress towards your goal. you've achieved two things you thought you never would. now for the third! if you have some friends, it seems like some people actually do like you, right? to me it seems like you're getting the grasp on opening those doors yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 09:22 PM
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there's two types of ideal of male sexuality in our current culture/media. the first, and imo most prevalent, is the negative ideal of linking male sexuality with violence. it's basically everywhere that expression of male sexuality gets guilted as transgressive and negative. the creep. the second, in hollywood and series, shows another positive ideal that's based around female sexuality. the man is perfect, says the right things, is not transgressive at all, probably more on the passive side. t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 09:15 PM
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why do you wanna go into prehistoric when current culture explains the fear of showing romantic interest? it feels like people DO get socially killed for flirting wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 09:05 PM
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yeah, things get more difficult when you're older in a sense. groups don't form as natural. on the other hand it seems that now you actually developed a good chunk of agency to live a better life. and there's tons of adults who struggled themselves and are happy to find "not so perfect" people to just try their best. it sounds like you're on a good path, but i can see there's lots of bad feelings, regrets, towards your past.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 09:04 PM
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i think this is at the core of the argument, which part of humans is natural and which isn't. celebrating a university degree may be superstitious and it may not be. if you celebrate it for reason that are rooted in the natural world, better work, better contacts, happy to achieved a goal, better social status, then i think that's not really superstitious. but when you celebrate it for reasons that are not rooted in the natural world, like pride over non-degree holder and that it makes you a bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:59 PM
1

i think my grasp is better than yours, you fail to argue even a single point. so what is supernatural then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:52 PM
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maybe i am, maybe i am not. are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:51 PM
1

pretty much agree, had the same experiance
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:51 PM
1

i don't believe there's much difference between men and women in this regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:46 PM
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yeah, which makes the rules of romantic socialization more understandable. but we pushed them all the way to just asking someone out to be a wrong action, to be punished. i think this is pushing too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:45 PM
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yeah, although i think it can become a bit overbearing as well. you should grow because it feels good and you can reach places you want. you shouldn't feel the need to grow because only then are you worth enough. because this just continues carrying the ideal and with that the shame. to me this was also an important insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:44 PM
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natural: from nature; not artificial or involving anything made or caused by people a tree is natural. a soccer goal is not. do you think the idea of soccer goals just grows in nature?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:41 PM
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dude, that sounds tough. i'm sorry to hear. i think people argue too much for a competency of relationship though. most people just want someone to have an enjoyable time with. did you reach out for help to deal with this anxiety?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:39 PM
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oh ok, this i would strongly disagree with. to me it seems very socialized. the fear is instilled in women from before the 1960s when they first started having self-controlled protection from getting pregnant. having a baby without father is scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:37 PM
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that's what i think as well. this is the shame part of it. there's an ideal image of men that many men are scared of diverging from. being mentally ill or even scared or even just needing some help doesn't fit the ideal. imo this is the reason why peterson, rogan and tate are so successful because - despite their faults - they all show a self-improving ideal. accept yourself now, accept mistakes, accept what is wrong and try to move towards better. becoming better is worth more than being good.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:35 PM
1

different than what? soccer goals are clearly not born by natural law. do you disagree with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:31 PM
4

so how do you explain the incel epidemic?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:30 PM
1

i have: soccer goals don't appear by natural laws. thus they are supernatural.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:27 PM
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fair enough, but you is the pronoun for the 2nd person, so it would be better to use a 3rd person pronoun when talking about men in general. yeah, i agree with what you say. why do you think men don't want to admit there's a problem? don't want to admit THEY have a problem? how can you and many men not realize how much internal hurt there is? this is crazy to me. i see it everywhere. but i don't see much understanding on why it is the case. it was also the same with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:26 PM
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i'm not sure what you're telling me. engaging romantically with women is crossing borders and risking to make them feel uncomfortable. nobody is born allknowing and learning to read how to behave in what way at what time unfortunately takes someone with whom you make mistakes. when we heighten how morally bad, how guilty someone is for doing this, they'll never learn from mistakes as they'll fear the mistakes too much. i think incels are stuck in this fear. do you know what your fear was about?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:21 PM
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dude, i can't engage when you don't argue. all you do is to claim i'm incorrect, but you bring no argument to why. i'm using the words perfectly fine. what are the natural laws of soccer, enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:18 PM
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no personal attacks please! reported i agree with your last statement. men need to look after their mental health better. what's your understanding on why they don't do it? you'll soon get into the same shame/guilt dynamic i talked about previously. men identify with some sort of worth that they get socialized towards. this goes externally in how confident they are to socialize romantically without becoming guilty. this self-worth is dependent on how confident they are. the shame-mechanic hinder…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:15 PM
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natural is all material world. the things of action and reaction. a goal is a complete supernatural idea. it doesn't exist in nature. a cat won't understand a goal. when you start to feel joy and cry because a ball went over an imaginary line in a certain time frame without any real effect on the material world, i think it's pretty easy to say we're dealing with a non-natural phenomenon. it is a supernatural believe that goal exist and are relevant in the slightest. and it is excessively credulo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:11 PM
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so now you admit that you lack understanding instead of me having no grasp of the words. glad we're making progress. my claim is completely easy to understand. you think goals in soccer are natural and not supertnatural. def. "attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature." so, by what laws of nature do soccer goals work? please enlighten me with the natural laws of soccer. where in nature does soccer, soccerplayers and soccergoals appear? i'm all ears!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:00 PM
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supernatural only came into play to define superstition. i don't know which definition of superstition you have. i don't need you to have the same as me from the get go. even if i didn't have enough grasp of the words, you still would be able to argue it. you making your argument dependent on whether i understand it is nonsensical. look, it's easy, i argue perfectly well and you just don't respond but adhom me nonstop. i don't think this looks good for you. i heard some people were laughing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:45 PM
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it's not just entertaining, though. if the opposing team outsmarts yours, you're not really happy about it. i think you don't understand what is natural and what is supernatural. there's nothing natural about cheering when creative player outsmart each other, but cry when creative player outsmart each other, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:42 PM
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the main problem of dating as a man is not listed: most men are stuck in a shame/guilt dynamic of needing to learn how to socialize romantically but also being to blame when failing. so many men get stuck in a place where they are too incompetent to learn how to socialize properly and are to afraid of the guilt. thus they are stuck. women however can learn easily because men need to take responsibility and take the guilt. of course women then also need to learn to deal with getting victimized by…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:16 PM
1

says the guy who obviously never bought a yacht
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:12 PM
1

yeah, interesting, what do you actually believe is happening when the ball is in the net? you do believe something, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:08 PM
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understood, i'll try my best.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:35 PM
1

for future judgement of what i'm allowed to say or others are allowed to say towards me: no speculations about feelings of other users here, if those feelings are negative?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:33 PM
1

when a person throws object a on object b, what is there for natural forces they should care about? naturally speaking, it's 100% irrelevant. only when you believe in some sort of supernatural relevancy you would care. goals, wins and losses don't happen in nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:24 PM
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it is a superstition by the very definition of the word "a widely held but irrational belief in supernatural influences"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:20 PM
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dodging the question again. it's literally the definition of the word. "a widely held but irrational belief in supernatural influences" why do you think it makes any difference if you throw object a onto object b? there's no natural explanation for it. it is a a) widely held, but b) irrational belief in c) supernatural influences.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:15 PM
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how do you define superstition then? my argument is perfectly arguable, yet you don't argue it but try to attack me personally. bad look.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:01 PM
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your argument was the benefit is that it makes them happy. but mathematically, there's a higher percentage it makes them sad. just think it through unemotionally, non-defensive. my logical comprehension is perfectly fine, i think you have trouble coming to terms with your superstitious belief. it's perfectly normal, every person believing in superstition claims it's real.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:59 PM
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so goals and matches, wins and losses, isn't this supernatural? it doesn't exist in nature. you fight for something that isn't there
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:53 PM
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lmao, look at all the crying faces of the people losing during the world cup. only one team wins, only the fans of one team are happy while every other one cry because they lost. the crystal people also have the benefit of the believe making them happy. so it must be true?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:49 PM
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the ones investing in it are not superstitious. they just profit on the superstition of the paying customer. don't you wonder why coaches and players have no problem changing the team they work for, but the fans fucking hate them for it despite loving them a second before?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:47 PM
1

so why do you want your favorite sports team to win? ​ it's completely obviously superstitious and it's only because you believe in the superstition that you claim it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:45 PM
1

that projecting object a in object b has no benefit to them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:44 PM
1

mercury is very ambivalent, i wouldn't use that to affect their mood. it's like cheering for the cavs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:43 PM
1

what magic for example? thoughts are kinda magical, when you think about it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:42 PM
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ok, so when they say a sporting event is so important we need to put $100 million into it, don't you think there's some transference from one (subjective) into the other (objective)?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:40 PM
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of course they do believe in it. suspense of disbelieve means you believe in what you need to suspense your disbelieve of.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:38 PM
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you say the watch is a symbol of wealth/resources. and religious ideas are a symbol of ideals. actually not that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:37 PM
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so the difference is one is putting up a claim on reality you disagree with? isn't being hyperemotional and finding a thing extremely important not also a claim on reality? it's not a claim about what's happening but about the significance of it, right? but still a claim
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:34 PM
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belief in supernatural reality
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:31 PM
1

is this "status" in the room with you right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:28 PM
1

so when you watch a movie, do you believe there's actually small people in the screen?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:21 PM
1

hooligans killing other hooligans because their team didn't place as many objects a in object b. no superstition at all here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:09 PM
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yeah, it's called suspension of disbelieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 04:50 PM
1

so no real material benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 04:43 PM
1

how are they different?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 04:34 PM
1

why do you want your team to win? what benefit do you have from it? do you have more money, more to eat, a bigger house?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 04:26 PM
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their dream job would ensure them resources. how can you even compare those two things? one has a tangible effect. the other has not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 04:24 PM
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it is 100% exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 04:18 PM
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pride is about ensuring a real benefit, a real measurable resource. what do you actually gain when a team wins over the other? this is crazy, right? once you admit that it's completely cut off from reality, there's no problem and everybody can have fun. but it's just plain delusional to cheer for one over the other. nothing changes when one wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 04:04 PM
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what do you celebrate exactly when they do well? i don't see the benefit of "your" team winning vs "their" team winning. it's completely batshit insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 04:02 PM
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could be, could not be, who knows when they aren't open about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 04:00 PM
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you dodge my question: what is the real life, material benefit of your team winning? this is completely delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 03:59 PM
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what's the benefit of your team winning, my friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 03:14 PM
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there's no real effect in it. no benefit. how is it different than crystals?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 03:10 PM
1

it this some misunderstanding because english is my third language?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 03:04 PM
1

so she can complain about bad sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 02:56 PM
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i'd say setting the city on fire is quite emotional unstable. but i 100% agree. men are hyper emotional. it's just so ingrained that we overlook it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 02:47 PM
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i principally agree. you say this is true for crystals. isn't EXACTLY the same true for branded clothing? nike shoes are assembled in the same low quality sweatshops as other non branded clothes. our whole economy is based around advertisement which functions by that principle, so would you categorize ads as the same magical thinking that's lost any grip to reality? what about sports that have no benefit whatsoever but make billions after billions in revenue? many men actually dedicate most of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 02:45 PM
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believing in a higher power does have very real consequences on your behavior. do you think religion is a superstition? to me you seem to be contradicting yourself here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 02:26 PM
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likewise! so you think people pay huge amounts of money for something that doesn't work? seems kinda unbelievable to me and not reflecting of what's happening. why wouldn't they invest their money in other things?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 02:16 PM
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you don't think crystals have different amounts of work they can do? seems like reality would disagree. cheer up, no need to be depresso!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 02:11 PM
-1

status obviously is a superstition
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 02:09 PM
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for example? energy is almost exclusively a very vague term. when you look at physics, we basically have no idea what energy is about. we use it as a place-holder to we can work with it. when people say "i don't like her energy", it's a place-holder for something very real and observable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 02:00 PM
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really depends on what we link to the term "superstitious". cheering on a football team for them to win is just another superstition-complex but it's just so common nobody questions it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 01:58 PM
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men buy $12'000 watches "no i'm not superstitious"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 01:56 PM
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i mean "energy" is just a real thing. it's more superstitious to believe it doesn't exist, if we're honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 01:56 PM
1

Men don't like to be judged just as much. It's evolutionary biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 09:42 AM
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The assumption is that a player had to manipulate or lie about commitement to sleep with lots of women. However a slut (not shaming) doesnt need to be dishonest in any case. She just needs to be open about fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 09:41 AM
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Depends on if they were hot or not as a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:18 AM
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who proposed she look to the state to raise her kids? we seem to be having a complete disconnect here
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 09:18 PM
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oh, so she can go to work and have that relationship, there's no one forcing her not to, got it! you should update OP from "need" to "may". good talking to you, glad you agree your post used the wrong words.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 09:03 PM
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of course. kindergarten is very good for children to socialize and learn basic social skills. the mom can work half time. that's how every one does it here, seems perfectly healthy. don't you think the kids will receive permanent damage from a mother who prohibits them from socializing like every other normal and healthy kid due to the father forcing her not to work. idk, seems kinda crazy to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 09:01 PM
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he could pay anyone to do the job. no need to be at home when the kids are in kindergarden and school.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 08:23 PM
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you don't need to stay monogamous in a relationship. if you say "i can fuck whoever i want, but you won't or i'll leave you" don't you think a forced condition of this relationship is that you don't fuck other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 08:06 PM
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you would need to become a stay at home wife .
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 08:04 PM
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it's perfectly reasonable for a man to want this. a billionaire wanting this, is beyond unreasonable, it's a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 07:39 PM
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the issue is not the person taking the gamble, but the person proposing a forced situation to be chosen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 07:38 PM
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the housewife option has a forced condition
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 07:24 PM
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need = force can = no force you could ask: your mans a billionaire but you CAN (no force) stay at home. but you said: you NEED (force) to stay at home. you, sir, are STRAWMANNING YOURSELF HARD. :) :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 07:12 PM
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"but you would need to become a stay at home wife" you sure you read your own argument correctly? need implies force
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 07:02 PM
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You got baited bro
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:42 PM
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Yeah, this sounds weird. Imagine being a billionaire and forcing your wife to stay at home instead also making a billion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:42 PM
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do they have an none zero reason to get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 10:47 AM
1

What about gay marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 09:14 AM
1

You sound like a true empath, judging people in catefories of abusive/toxic and healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 08:08 AM
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No, not everyone. Most people are fine letting others live they way they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 07:54 AM
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You should slutshame them in response, go full redpill on them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 07:53 AM
1

Didnt andrew tate make his money pimping out camgirls? I think we have very different ideas of what improving yourself actually means. He claims to be religious yet lives a highly sinful live. He should improve but not to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 07:42 AM
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Correct, they would feel entitled to it, my bad
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 07:39 AM
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I'm comparing the biology of fucking between humans and animals, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 07:38 AM
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You get better in doing what you do. There probably was improvement in fucking. Focusing on improvement will improve your capability of improving. You are good enough for fucking. Most problems arrive by thinking you are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 07:37 AM
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he didn't do better than you, he just fucked her because he didn't try to improve but just fuck her
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 08:19 PM
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You can compete, but the reward of the competition is over the other male. You don't need to be anyone better than you are to fuck women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:47 PM
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Do animals improve? No. Do animals get laid? Yes. You don't need to improve to get laid. I would even propose that anyone who conceptualizes himself as being in need of improvement to get laid has a harder time getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:28 PM
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You're good enough the way you are. If you improve to get sex, get it as reward for improving, you'll get entitled to it, which makes you a worse person. You're good enough the way you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:07 PM
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yeah, kinda dehumanizing in the first place, when you think about it for 4 seconds
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 04:01 PM
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It seems to me that those people thinking that arent really the people whose authority will lead to good outcomes. Their ego is so hyperinvested that they don't actually would be good groomers. Just my hunch
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 03:33 PM
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Good for them if that's what they want. If it makes them happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 03:25 PM
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good bye!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:29 PM
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This is why I think it is fair that women in these vulnerable situations are able to get most of the man's wealth and future income in a divorce. It makes it fair. i don't engage in people who blatantly lie about what they said. you're dishonest. you should be ashamed of your morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:00 PM
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trying to demonize the "other" is what nazis did, like you do now
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 10:13 AM
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I think alimony and child support are the biggest financial shields of the vulnerability of traditional relationships. Of course there's second order dangers there that massively disfavour men. Lets not talk about the dangers of abuse there. But a 50/50 is the biggest balancing we should strive for. Not the way you proposed "most" which obviously would put the men in a livelong slavery and intense dependency. This is insane. But then there's also all non financial risks we never talk about but l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 09:46 AM
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By your own logic why would it be fair they get most and not half of the wealth and future earning. You recognize a vulnerable position and instead of making it not vulernable, you just exchange the actors in that vulernable position. Seems like you hate men like some men hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 08:56 AM
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It's a line from OP which was posted 1d ago. You seem to be very invested in arguing you are right yet you don't address my arguments. So my proposition is that we both stop arguing about what is correct or incorrect and just live our personal lifes and make our personal decisions on what we suppose is true. You can base your decisions on what women say they'll do and i'll base mine on how they actually behave. I wish you best of luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 07:16 AM
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71% of conservative women think cheating is always wrong, compared to 36% of liberal women. this is the first statement. you are perfectly fine to believe this means conservative women will be less likely to cheat on you. i don't believe it, i backed it up by providing actual real life measures of who cheats. now, of course, i'm proud of you for believing what they say, "believe all women" but i'll stick to observing how they actually behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 07:40 PM
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Ask them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 11:50 AM
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I disagree, nothing is as unreliable as asking people for what they claim they will do. That's why questionaires have built in mechanisms to check for reliability. I'm not the one making the affirmative claim initially, i'm just pointing out how reality seems to have a different opinion on things than OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 07:54 AM
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how would they link fake profiles to the voter base? also, from the study: "Our results provide support for theories arguing that people with stricter sexual attitudes are paradoxically more likely to engage in deviant sexual behavior." this is not a one finding thing kinda stuff. we even got a word invented for it: hypocricy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 08:43 PM
1

yet asking randos is a good representative? most probably misidentify their personal politics yet alone if they would cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 08:18 PM
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yeah, they love to imagine their phantasy instead of reality. it's like a 5 year old talking about an animal they have never seen in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 07:46 PM
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you think it's better to ask people directly than sample the ones cheating? do you do the same with crimes? prefer to ask the people if they would commit a crime or measure the people actually comitting the crime?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 07:44 PM
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of course. iStone now offers virtual stoneing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 06:37 PM
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you're less likely to cheat when you get stoned to death for it, i'll give you that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 06:19 PM
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website that allows people to act immoral towards their partners acts immoral towards its users. ironic justice of some sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 06:17 PM
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i don't know how compelling they are. ask your date: 1) do you think cheating on your partner is wrong 2) have you cheated on your partner once before see how they react, make a judgement if they would cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 06:14 PM
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sounds like you never actually met a conservative women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 06:05 PM
2

quick google search says 70/30, but you can't believe google
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 06:04 PM
5

honestly just try to judge people on basis of their day to day actions instead of trying to find some insane proxy like political affiliation
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 06:02 PM
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which numbers do you believe: the number that show what people will say they'll do? the numbers that show what people actually do? ​ i agree with the issues you mention though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:54 PM
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https://www.inverse.com/article/46972-which-political-party-is-the-most-adulterous maybe liberal women are just more honest, while you get cucked as fucked with conservative women. oh, wait, they would never lie, right? “Our results are perhaps the strongest evidence yet that people with more sexually conservative values, although they claim to act accordingly, are more sexually deviant in practice than their more sexually liberal peers,” the study says. from the leaked ashley madison data some …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:37 PM
1

no, you got power through the will of the people. why are your ethics so weak?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 01:08 PM
0

Yeah. The problem is not about vasectomies itself, but about which men get pressured into doing them by women who have not their best interest in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 06:49 AM
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Rape is not about sex but about power
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 06:48 AM
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If he's getting it for his own motivation none. If he's getting it because he feels pressured it's basically rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 09:59 PM
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So they don't operate? Your comment reads a bit confusing, not gonna lie
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 08:03 PM
1

Maybe you're right. I don't know. It's difficult when people start doing harm. But then, again, they do it because they don't know better. If they don't make others feel miserable, it's easier for me to feel pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 07:44 PM
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Why would they operate then? This logic isnt sound
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 07:42 PM
1

I mean that really depends on the kid i think. Depends on why the father isnt there anymore as well, i guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 07:41 PM
0

Why do you think pity with them is appropriate? It seems like the set up their personal feelings as reality, which is egoistic. Why even reinforce it with pity?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 06:00 PM
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the guys doing vasectomies wont reproduce and thus - evolutionary speaking - the problem takes care of itself
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 05:09 PM
2

do you actually think there's men who feel intense revulsion for a woman who had two partners before them? this just sounds very unreasonable for anyone above 20-25, tbh. what age group are you talking about? wouldn't it be a huge reproductive advantage if every other men felt intense revulsion towards your woman? wouldn't this guarantee you exactly what you want? yet somehow jealousy and cheating is a thing. if men were repulsed by it, there would be no cheating. there would be no whores. how d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 04:26 PM
1

didn't you say ugly people are attracted to ugly people?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 03:55 PM
1

you think only 1/200 men are ugly??
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 03:46 PM
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Shut up freud, i didnt mean his mother ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 12:58 PM
1

Sure, if she had one child she can get another, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 12:57 PM
2

You arent every men either yet you speak like you are. People understand their territories very differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 12:29 PM
5

Does it disgust the single moms to date the single dad as well in your world?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 08:49 AM
2

I think that's fair point, i just think we should be honest about our reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 07:55 AM
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Yet there's many men for whom it isnt disgusting. So it's not something inate to grown up adults, but there's some understanding of the world behind it. You're just trying to justify being unreasonable at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 07:54 AM
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She wouldnt be single anymore if you dated her
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 06:41 AM
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I mean that's a funny way to say they try to understand why it disgusts them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 06:40 AM
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honestly, as a man, you should try. it does wonders to your mental health. not every problem is solvable, and it just feels good to share what's on your mind. stay safe brother, we need to bring that 300% suicide mtf ratio down
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 06:40 PM
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you actually propose for men to abandon the patriarchy? i don't think women would like this
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 03:59 PM
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work partners and friends!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:11 PM
2

you mean like bffs?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 06:58 PM
1

"Everyone has internalized misandry except gay men." who have externalized misandry by only sleeping with guys
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 06:30 PM
1

Love tall girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 09:17 AM
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Blaming others and not taking responsibility is an anti-masculine thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 02:23 PM
2

is he stalking them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:31 PM
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trying to leave what?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:27 PM
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any person needs to learn to express emotions. there's a huge difference between crying because you don't succeed at work or expressing a wider scope of negative and positive emotions than happiness. anger at injustice is widely accepted, see all the social justice movements. very negative emotion. guild and shame are not accepted very much. they aren't for women either, although a little less. start with expressing a little, or if that's too much to open up, look for other men in media opening …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 06:34 PM
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do you think culture informs masculinity and feminity? would men be attracted to hypergamic behavior then, since it's a feminine trait? could be true as well for men that they fight it yet still are attracted to it, right? desire vs political brainwashing etc where do you get those attributes from for feminity? is this your personal preference or were there some studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:59 PM
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People don't care for others not being assholes but not to themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:46 PM
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Sounds complicated. How do humans understand the di in dimorphism? How do we understand feminine and masculine? Seems like you think feminine is some sort of behavior and linked to emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:00 PM
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So we perceive beauty regardless of the impulse to lust. Lust is governed by hormones. Yet you can be in a room with two beautiful people and feel lust only for one. Sounds like there's something missing, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:52 AM
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"So, you have those dumbass guys, who are watching romantic shows or anime created by other men, drowning in this comfort fantasy of nerdy boy having a harem of virgin cheerleaders and then going "oh no, the evil society lied to me, gonna shoot my classmates for it"" While it was actually a woman writing it for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:26 PM
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you're quick to assign mental illness to other experiances than yours, also 20% not explained is still a huge number. be that as it may, you still have not explained where arousal comes from. There's very attractive partners who don't feel arousal despite being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:25 PM
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He said the book it's based off was written by a woman, not a man. Thus you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 06:33 PM
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Funny you'd appeal to authority, while never actually showing and study. Funny you claim to be scientificly minded, but then your theory has more holes than a swiss cheese. Just funny when i point out contradictions of your theory, you don't even respond to the points but start insulting me. What a great scientific mind you have!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 06:52 AM
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If attribute a does sometimes correlate with arousal and sometimes not, maybe this isnt quite the connection you think it is. Next is condoms. If offspring was the main contributer people wouldnt use condoms. Or they could fuck ass-ugly people with condoms and be aroused. It's not like that however. Next: attraction is not a conscious decision. So all the reason you invented don't really apply. You can't ask a person to be attracted. Where does the emotion of attraction come from? People might s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 06:39 PM
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They do get ressources, but they dont feel arousal because of it. Lmao you don't even understand the topic at hand. You said arousal comes from getting ressources, but appearently not, right? Your explanation just falls flat with so many phenomena. Adf to that that your explanation isnt even simple, but very complicated and doesnt explain anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 06:16 PM
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Honestly, i just matched you energy, i didnt know you'd react as sensitive. I asked a simple question. Human arousel mixes drives and culture. Which makes it very chaotic to understand. Your explanations leave no room for prostitutes for example. You pretend it's easy, and i just disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 06:04 PM
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Ah yes, resources the classical animal instinct thing. Why are you so aggressive about a thing you can't explain without contradictions? All your explanations don't make sense irl. Sorry to burst your bouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 05:49 PM
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Why do we get aroused by some and not by others?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 05:10 PM
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I think we agree to a good part. Also this theory is close to a century old, so it's more symbolical than actually scientific. I've been raised feminist and jung gave me a huge help understanding my way kinda out of it. But when you say progressives are non-sexist, that's actually incorrect imo. They are very often pro-women or pro-femininity. They are very comfortable at looking at women as victims, and realizing there's a huge gender asymmetrie. They are very willing to do this. They reinforce…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:41 PM
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Anima projection is about what an ideal woman or what femininity is. I don't think blue or red pill differ so much in who they find attractive, or what they appreciate as feminin. Blue pill men think that with the current societal gender roles of their identity, men, they can achieve what they want. Red pill men however say "there's something wrong with it. I try to be the good guy, the explicite animus, but somehow i am a loser = my ego/persona aspect is very weak. I'm unsuccessful being the go…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 03:49 PM
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Nah, when using jungian terms, it's clear bluepill vs redpill is all rooted in ego/shadow dysfunction. It's not about what we project. It's what we're willing to suppress. It's all about shadow problems, and its relationship to an underdeveloped ego because of different expectations. Sure, the implicit understanding of the projective nature of attraction plays a role. But it's more the conflicting parts of this "ideal man/woman" and how it leads to suppression of healthy ego parts that red pill …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 03:14 PM
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You can just understand of you will understanding into existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 03:05 PM
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Evolution works on a biological level, not a sense making level
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 10:06 PM
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She can live the best life she can make meaning of. Having kids is the low hanging fruit of meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 10:05 PM
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Seems like you have a pretty good filter for your type, congrats
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 09:08 PM
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And they do this by wearing things that are for made for ladies, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:12 PM
1

if you're attracted to girls who look out for rich guys, that's your best bet, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:26 PM
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having a healthy and successful life is the best way to get pussy. you just don't want to realize the shortest way is the one without shortcut.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:52 PM
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Classic dismissal instead of actually addressing the point. Millions of women feel humiliated by thoughts like yours imposing they wear what they wear out of being forced instead of self-actualization.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 10:24 AM
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It sounds like you project your own insecurities when confronted with questions. It's pretty mysoginistic to revoke any agency of women wearing heels. It's like a victim-fetish, but you hurt women by portraying them this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 09:50 AM
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those were the men that forced women to wear heels?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 09:42 AM
2

Comparing prettyness, what a masculine routine
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 08:05 AM
1

What's whose?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:56 AM
1

It does give you return on your investement. It just doesnt feed into your pussy addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:02 AM
2

What is the motivation of them to wear those shoes? What is the "cross" about? Don't they wanna wear what is made for the other sex/gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:13 AM
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Not eating good food and sleeping bad does also not get you laid
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:12 AM
2

Who are the people who use beauty standards to pretend some humans are more or less valuable than others? Do you have some examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:10 AM
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Dude we're gonna look so royal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:50 PM
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Thanks for explaining. Honestly, i think a person bringing up something they are insecure about once in a while is fair. Most of us have some weakness we're ashamed about. The most important part is to not let it controll you and being open about bad feelings regarding it helps dissolving them. But yeah, now thinking of it, mentioning an insecurity is different from asking if it bothers you. Gives you too much power, you know? Have you thought about doing some selfdefense stuff or some learnin f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:50 PM
5

Put on some wigs while you're at it, and some robes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:27 PM
1

Best to just address it, but i understand how you dont wanna step on toes either. maybe go icescating and find out his real height, hehe.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:26 PM
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I think it's more a myth than a truth. May be true for some and not so true for others. I know tons of very chill and very confident short men. You're just being bigoted imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:25 PM
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They are good against rusty nails, but they might not fit the rest of the outfit
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:23 PM
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You know, i start to get why you find it uncomfortable. It's a bit weird for me thinking it through. How would it be for you to address the shoes and not his height? "I was wondering if you were wearing lifts the other day, you seem to vary in height??" I'm not sure how i would communicate it. Good luck with your date. It's only lifts in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:22 PM
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It sounds like you assume men are insecure about being tall. And they would wear shoes only to compensate those insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:18 PM
2

Why would a CROSS dresser wear them if they were not for girls? Jesus, you guys are uninformed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:17 PM
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Oh, you think women are the victims of the beauty standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:15 PM
2

I think you raise a fair point. What should he say to not make it a big deal while acknowledging it so it doesnt float in the background?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:10 PM
2

Do you think the same thing about women wearing heels?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:08 PM
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So you have no problem with it but that it could be not disclosed by him because of shame or some other bad feeling and you don't want to deal with the sensitivity of those bad feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:25 PM
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Just liking them? Do you think women exclusively wear heels out of insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:22 PM
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What if he likes wearing them sometimes. Not everything is about you. Maybe some of his shoes are a little higher and they fit well to his trousers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:21 PM
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But those are for girls
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:20 PM
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You wouldnt do it because you're insecure, they might not be. No reason to project your insecurity onto them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:18 PM
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What is manipulative about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:04 PM
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Why would it be insecurity to wear shoe lifts? Maybe you are projecting your insecurity??
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:03 PM
2

i gave you the rights they lack. you deny reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:00 PM
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they actually do have less rights than women. every constitution has some form of conscription ingrained into them. most western countries force men to work without pay for their country or they'll get thrown into jail or lose their voting powers. i am mistaken. your idea of feminism is mainstream and it's misandrist to its roots. ugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:13 PM
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why do you think there's no equality in red pill? in most western countries men still have less rights than women. you can go through one constitution after another. we don't live in iran. while i don't agree with much of it, there's equality in saying "society is not equal to men, try to make the best of it". your idea of feminism unfortunately isn't mainstream then. also, i suspect there'll come tons of misandry in a few more comments from you. you just have that energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:08 PM
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"I wasn't entirely feeling it on the second date as much as the first. She was fairly hard to communicate with and a bit boring and awkward." she probably felt the same. why would you engage romantically with such a chemistry?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 02:14 PM
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What is female vs male way of communicating?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:30 PM
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I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:57 PM
1

Everybody knows the real potential of enough sleep and good food. Yet they don't do it. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:39 PM
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i like the equaliy aspect of the red pill and i dislike the misandry of feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:17 AM
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do you think gaining weight is a smart decision? wouldn't you want a partner who checks in on your decisions when they are dumb? ​ i'm a bit suprised people are still trying to frame overweight as anything other than a health danger after the whole pandemic thing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:46 AM
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why not shortcut it and date a serial killer?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:01 AM
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"going unhealthy is a good way to test the intentions of your partner. if he has no problem with you planing to die early, he's THE ONE!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:57 AM
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doing laundry is just like war against bacteria. think about it strategically, pump up the propaganda machine and show them who's the real democracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:52 AM
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1% of men is still a huge number
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:50 AM
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men provide the need of their ego being stroked, but not too much!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:50 AM
2

how is communicating a feminine role and not a masculine one? any basis of culture and dominating nature is based on successful communication
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:48 AM
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Going early enough to bed so you have enough sleep is a non effort way of increasing mental and physical health. Yet people dont do it. Gym even takes effort to improve mental and physical health.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:30 AM
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Lose fat then, it's also healthier and you'll live longer. Blessing in disguise.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:27 AM
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Mens standards are low, but not THAT low
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 06:44 AM
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the misconception is that virgins are bad in bed, however everybody knows their penis has not yet shriveled from too much pussy. it's still a big strong sausage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 06:41 PM
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