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Lol saying that without understanding checks and balances is crazy. You do realize we have three different systems and they have to agree right? You realize that trump was already president AND could barely pass any laws due to us having mainly democrats in senate and that’s why we had government shut downs. I can give you exactly how that won’t work like what I just wrote yet your only explanation of how we could have a dictatorship is “just believe me bro” Bro look up how your own government w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:36 PM
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I did. A lot of these things won’t go through with mainly democrats in office. So again I suspect fear monger
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:32 AM
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That shit sounded like fear mongering
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 09:59 AM
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They are gonna tell you what you want to hear so they can leave more so than telling you what can help you cause they will be the ones dealing with it for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:10 PM
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Paying for sex doesn’t help you gain experience like a partner who is there and wants to be there for free. Having sex with someone willing for free will often tell you what they like and don’t like more honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 05:35 PM
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https://thefeministshop.com/blogs/the-feminist-shop-blog/why-feminism-is-for-men-too-by-maria-orihuela https://thefeministshop.com/blogs/the-feminist-shop-blog/why-feminism-is-for-men-too-by-maria-orihuela https://www.global-briefing.org/2015/01/feminism-is-for-men-too/ All these links that say otherswise
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 08:11 PM
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The main thing that’s said is that women that age change their preferences for things more sustainable which often is his job, his house, his car, tangible things like that. So it’s not too different anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 07:53 PM
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For years they said if you wanted equality for all genders you are a feminist but now when it is time to help it ain’t their issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 07:39 PM
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It can definitely be oppressive for men. It’s not uncommon for black men to get bumps that can get infected for shaving yet we are still expected to do so and only allowed to have really short hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 07:36 PM
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Nah. In all honesty I’d be less inclined cause dating bisexual women is normally a fucking nightmare
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:12 PM
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You can hear them out but believing they are right without them also giving evidence is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:06 PM
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If everyone is believed when they make a claim things will get way worse actually. You’ll have toxic people using it more and more like how we are with celebrities and Internet personalities. Having a “innocent until proven guilty” mindset can still work and people getting justice. But otherwise you’ll get a community of fear and lying almost as if we haven’t learnt anything from the Salem Witch trials.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:05 PM
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That’s even worse if they wait 1-2years. So you’ve only lived with them for a year. 3-6 months is often what is said. And yeah people change a lot in their 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:04 AM
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2-3 is to little. 4-5 is doable
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:16 AM
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Absolutely not dude
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 11:21 PM
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Yes a choice that comes with extreme consequences. Literally women today have convinced me that you all are the reason why divorce is so high.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 11:14 PM
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Doesn’t mean it can’t work. But does mean it’s a terrible decision for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 11:13 PM
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So you can still change it. Quote where I said I treat all decisions like that? And I’ve said countless times it’s to see how a person changes and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 11:11 PM
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Because it’s better than rushing into things??? And for some people they don’t have a choice. Marriage is a want not a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 11:10 PM
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If that’s how it works out then yes??? It’s what people tell incels as well idk why you are so surprised and acting like it’s insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 11:05 PM
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In the US you can and in the UK you can as well but they have to want you from what I read. “Almost a third of first-time college students choose a major and then change it at least once within three years…” https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/12/08/nearly-third-students-change-major-within-three-years-math-majors-most#:~:text=Almost%20a%20third%20of%20first,federal%20data%20released%20Thursday%20show. I find it odd that you see making the risk of going outside as the same as literal marria…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 11:04 PM
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Seeing how the person pans out??
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:52 PM
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Most people also change their major many times in that timeframe. Doesn’t paint making a life long decision that well in that time frame. Yes you should go over each and every single thing. That’s how you mitigate risk and issues. It’s the same reason on why women wait for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:50 PM
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I never said wait a decade. Honestly what would be the reasons and upside to making that decision that quickly?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:38 PM
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So making a decision on the fact that you will have to live with this person, have kids with them, maybe take care of them if they get cancer, deal with their family etc should be rushed to 2 years? Are we surprised marriage rates are falling and divorce rates are the way they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:32 PM
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That doesn’t mean they aren’t waiting. Sex has been going down by each generation so we know for a fact that women are waiting and having less sex than before.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:29 PM
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I’m chilling I just said don’t do it. Sure it may not need to be exactly 5 years. But thinking you know someone in 2 years is insane. If you faced all that in 3 years lol I promise someone ain’t stable. That’s a lot for 3 years. One major thing is the fact that you are able to see how someone is changing that’s for sure. 2-3 years is barely anytime to see that. No one stays the same. I would like to hear what is the positive to rushing a life long decision into three years.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:29 PM
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I meant months. I changed it. The couples who move in sooner are also rushing like hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:26 PM
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No Remember most women believe a 25 year old cannot be with a 20 year old. That’s why I think it’s insane to plan on marriage by 2 years. The sex bit is to put in perspective the time. If a woman waits 3-6 months for sex they could have only been having sex for maybe a year and a half. Barely anytime at all depending.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:25 PM
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Sure a discussion on what you want in the future is fine but planning on getting married around that time is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:23 PM
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Compared to the fact that most people will live for a long ass time after that? I’ve added why being around them for a half of a decade makes more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:22 PM
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Ah no my bad. 3-6 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:20 PM
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Insanely too fast
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:18 PM
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Firstly don’t do that. The aht aht thing. But all of those are reasons on why you should wait yes. Not to mention people can change very quickly especially in their 20s. I’ve explained that. I never said to not get married. I see you added more into your initial comment which you should’ve added but nonetheless 5 years is half of a decade. A lot changes in that time frame. A lot that may not be shown from 3 years. You can not want to do that and I’ll still say I believe that’s why women divorce …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:18 PM
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In that case I think that makes it worse but I’m not conservative
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:11 PM
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I can agree with it. But I’d still wait for a bit
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:11 PM
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There are is a stark difference between seeing each other and living with each other. Everyday habits will absolutely change and this is probably why we see women complaining about them not having the same cleaning standards and divorce. And taking time to marry and seeing it as them not being into seems extremely insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:10 PM
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This thread honestly has me believing women are the reason for the high divorce rates. It seems like you all rush into marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:07 PM
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Women here say all the time that people change all the time in their 20s. So why on earth would someone marry a person only on 2-3 years? Most people move in with their partner around 2-3 years. So you’d have only lived with that person for a year and a half. Doesn’t sound like you’ve been around them that long if you plan on a life with them to make that decision. You also have women who want to wait for sex, makes sense. Most women have the rule of 3-6 months. So again if you marry within 3 ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:03 PM
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You could have to start over at the age of 29 but have married someone. Now you gotta deal with the fact that you are divorced, dealing with legal documents, and still trying to date which dudes would probably see that as a red flag. Women here say all the time that you change all the time in your twenties, so it would make since to marry after some time. Also women are having children later and later every year and things are fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:00 PM
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Most people move in around 6 months or later. So reasonably you’d only live with them for a year and a half. That still doesn’t seem good. And if it’s supposed to be life long then 5 years isn’t anything compared to a lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:55 PM
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Lol are you? Personal data is never a good indicator for anything
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:51 PM
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I think im starting to see why women file for divorces more. It seems like yall are way to willing to make a life long decision in such a short time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:50 PM
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I’m not married. But the stats show that marrying later is best. You don’t need anecdotal evidence to see what is best when you can compare a large group of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:50 PM
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Talking about marriage goals is fine, but getting married in 2-3 years is way to quick for anyone honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:48 PM
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So the answer is to rush into a life long commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:47 PM
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Just because other women see it as long doesn’t make it good lol. Divorce rates are high as hell. I’d say you should make your own judgement. Your dad is from another era.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:46 PM
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So spending your life with someone only takes 3 years to figure out? I feel like this is why women initiate most of the divorces
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:44 PM
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You can bring up the idea but 2 years is way too damn early
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:41 PM
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Most people are marrying later and having kids later. You can still get married in 5 years and have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:39 PM
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Eh it’s closer to the minimum I’d think but 4 years is still pretty early
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:38 PM
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2 years is nothing if you are planning on spending the rest of your life together
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:35 PM
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Q4W: How long would you have to be dating a person for you to think about marriage? At minimum I believe it should be 5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:32 PM
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We absolutely do. It’s why some dudes will tell their friends not to date a certain girl cause she’s been ran through or a gold digger. Men absolutely do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:09 PM
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No doubt. But for some it’s way harder than others for things like what I mentioned
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:22 PM
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That doesn’t mean that dating as a short guy is easy. Hell being unfit and tall is better than being short honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:37 PM
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When it comes to bullying?? lol that’s not a uniquely man or woman thing. It bothers me as it does take tax dollars and there could be other issues we talk about but instead it’s always women in society as of right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:04 PM
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I’d say that idea is not real vulnerability then. It’s understandable to be scared and say “this person can hurt me” but that’s where trust comes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 12:09 AM
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These men aren’t crazy. If many men are saying this then maybe there is a legitimate issue with it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 12:05 AM
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You see the issue though? Since when is bullying a feminist issue? Does it have to be separate by gender? Even if there are resources for moms doesn’t mean that they still won’t be tired dude. Having kids still is a task. They aren’t starving. But jobs pay by how much it’s needed in society. Most people can clean up after themselves. You are right but they can get a tech for pharmacy or nursing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:38 PM
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I never said I believe in chads spinning plates?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:32 PM
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Time has been at an all time low. Rape has always been taught to men that it’s bad. Men are often bullied for the same things plus height. And even from women no less. That’s less of a feminist issue and more of a bullying issue There always was help for mothers. Women still gossip. They just gossip about men more now. These things were already available by charities and still continue to do so. Nurses get paid 89,000 if they are registered. Lol that’s more than enough. Maids all they do is clea…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:23 PM
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I have no idea what you are talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:08 PM
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Again yes but it’s the entitlement with said statement. It’s like when women get upset when dudes tell them to make them food. Normally you should also want food for your partner but the entitlement of that comment is annoying
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:57 PM
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Sure I’d agree. But things like me too ( not a bad thing) has reasonably put women on edge. It would take two to tango with that not just one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:19 AM
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And again we are going through an age of loneliness for both men and women. That’s harder than ever before. Which again is why dudes go to dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:08 AM
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Neither would approaching??? Nothing has a 100% guarantee.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:04 AM
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“When looking at age and gender together, 63% of men under 30 describe themselves as single, compared with 34% of women in the same age group. “ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/02/08/for-valentines-day-5-facts-about-single-americans/ This is a newer stat
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:31 AM
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It’s not that complicated. There are many reasons as to why dudes wouldn’t want to approach dating IRL. Worse rejection Women’s attitudes now towards men approaching not wanting to ruin a social circle Not wanting to date where you work Etc
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:22 AM
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That’s my issue. Like the amount of times I’ve seen men being victim blamed everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:06 AM
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And I get it being seen that way back then. But now it seems like a complete over correction
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:06 AM
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I’m a bitter incel cause I disagree yet you came to an old argument to say this? Lol Not to mention I have a girlfriend but sure man. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:48 AM
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He’s not arguing that people want someone that’s funny. He’s arguing the expectation and entitlement that statements like “make me laugh” are on dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:38 AM
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I don’t get where the narrative that Reddit is the most misogynistic place where it caters to men. Most places even here seem to defend women with their lives. I’ve seen people have the same stories but it seems like people deem if they are an asshole or not by their gender which seems to be mainly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:31 AM
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I guess you’re still mad from fighting another redditor about fallacies and losing huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:27 AM
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Because I don’t believe that’s true. Even if look at the amount of women on medication
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 10:58 PM
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It’s often said women don’t fuck their friends. They will with friends of friends. But friends? No. I didn’t say most women do use it for sex. I said some
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 10:53 PM
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I find it funny that you say swindling even though I explain that men should do those things but I think it’s also ok for men to take a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 10:49 PM
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The talk was about issues in general and that was the point that things can seem absurd if I apply her logic
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 10:36 PM
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Sure that happens as well. But other women may not have guys like that around and use tinder. Yes plates don’t meet your family but due to certain situations other people may not want their family around. That’s the case with me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:39 PM
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I try not to now and try to understand that women go through shit. I normally don’t argue with points that make sense from a woman’s perspective cause I do feel those thoughts are often mainstream
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:35 PM
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Well I don’t hold those beliefs now. This was before I came to this subreddit so I wasn’t debating. I’ve had my perspective changed a bit here and in other situations
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:34 PM
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For me my mom grew up hating me, getting mad for just me ordering food when our dad took us out, belittling me for even when I did do things right like clean the kitchen. When she got sick she would yell at me for trying to help her. My first girlfriend would text her ex behind my back and when I get upset would call me controlling for saying I was uncomfortable with it ( and that she could still be friends but I do think it’ll put a strain on the relationship) We eventually broke up and she had…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:29 PM
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When I was a red piller the thing that would get me called misogynistic is saying things like women love you for what you can give mainly, women are irrational, you should have a never ending roster of women, things like that if that helps
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:25 PM
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I don’t think they know they are a plate by red pill doctrine I guess. But the other stuff you said doesn’t mean something is wrong with them they could just like sex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:23 PM
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That could definitely be a situation. But that would be on her to communicate what she needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:54 PM
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So you talk about debate ethics? Do you think people cannot debate personal experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 07:50 PM
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Now he’s a dumbass for thst
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 07:39 PM
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I’m a troll cause I disagree. I’ve made clear points. Now when people make terrible points or attack me personally of course imma do whatever. Point out points of me trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 07:34 PM
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Maybe the mean and harsh has something to do with it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 07:31 PM
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Ah again. Someone who knows me from a debate subreddit. Do you always jump to conclusions based on the internet? Seems so. Didn’t know I was here to please you my fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 07:29 PM
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So you 100% like everything she likes, never need some time to yourself, and always willing no matter if you are sad, hurt, depressed, and angry?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 07:15 PM
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You do realize relationships are work right? I could make that same argument about a woman that wants space from sex, “you like sex right, if you don’t want it then we should break up” Caring for someone is never 100% fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 07:10 PM
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To highlight exactly that. To show things are more complex than that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:58 PM
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I respect that but for some women it comes of almost like nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:39 PM
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That definitely depends. Often times things may seem like upkeep. But that’s how you get “bare minimum” allegations lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:38 PM
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I’m asking does it include things like emotional cheating. Link the study
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:37 PM
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I mean a break from constantly trying to romance their partner like they did in the past. Women ARE asking for that. It’s why the discussion of house labor exists
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:37 PM
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Quote where I asked her to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:36 PM
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That’s not what you said. You said that if men have issues they should make their own post not a post that’s the inverse of OP nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:35 PM
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Often times the logic is that some women come from abusive backgrounds, can be afraid of men going crazy etc. Not to mention gender roles and how some women have been raised to care less about what they want. It’s not an issue that arrives from just sex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:34 PM
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And try doing most of the planning for dates, paying for most of them, doing nice gestures that often times may not be paid back. It’s the same thing women complain about when it comes to relationship fatigue lol you just don’t like it when men say they face the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:33 PM
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It’s not a weird one. This is common. It’s why ideas like enthusiastic consent and all that exist because some women have issues with confrontation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:32 PM
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I’m talking about the study of who cheats more
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:28 PM
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That will be your experience, you aren’t a man
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:28 PM
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I can use an example and extrapolate it to a bigger issue. Not to mention I talked about both, you and everyone else in my original comment
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:27 PM
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I like your last part. You make it seem like he has to be obsessed with sex to want it. So again a woman can want breaks from sex but a man can’t want breaks from doing everything from how he got her which is often a lot more than what women do? Shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:25 PM
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Yet you brought up points that seemed specific to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:20 PM
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I mean not every situation is that exact situation now is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:19 PM
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Does that study also talk about emotional cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:18 PM
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I love how you assumed shit about me that isn’t true. Almost like some people may feel a certain way but it might not be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:17 PM
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So with you saying that, are you saying men cannot take breaks from that? Does that also go with the fact that women often let themselves go after pregnancy and if she doesn’t shape up in a while that he should leave or if she doesn’t have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:16 PM
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That’s common sense. People may feel a certain way. But doesn’t mean that whatever they are upset about is happening
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:15 PM
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Actually it was on topic. You said men should make a post or talk about their issues on another thread. They did. You didn’t like it and did the same complaining. I didn’t miss anything. I’m commenting to what you said lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:13 PM
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I’ve talked about this in another thread. Men do a lot to get into relationships. Some of which is exhausting after a bit. Some men want a break from that which seems like isn’t something they can do
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:12 PM
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Women often think they are being direct but are being subtle due to old gender roles. If he ignored you some part of me doubts he actually got what you meant
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:11 PM
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Depends. We often see partners on bad days get annoyed for small things. I’ve had a girlfriend that was upset that I didn’t want to try what she got for Olive Garden cause of a bad day. Does that mean I have to do that every time now. Not to mention I mentioned that due to women’s upbringing women often aren’t the best at communicating when something is bothering them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:24 PM
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That’s what I mean. They don’t communicate often on how serious it is mostly because of how some women are raised which still doesn’t make it ok
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:17 PM
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I’d agree with all except for the part where you say they communicated it. In what way? Women are also known to think they got their point across in a subtle way but it wasn’t obvious to the man nor did he pick up on how serious it was. You can say he should pay more attention, maybe I’d agree, but at the end of the day we do have to acknowledge a lot of people have communication issues especially women since y’all say they are socialized to put others first. They may think they are being blunt …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:09 PM
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It’s literally left to the state where people vote to choose who is the governor. Arguably yes. I don’t consider it equal rights. If a woman slips up and end up pregnant she can just abort it. But what do they tell dudes tho? Tough shit you gotta pay for that no matter if you wanted it or not. My point is all of it is ok or none of it’s ok. I’m not even against abortion. I just don’t give a shit but having a dude pay for something he never wanted then to turn around and say it’s the woman’s righ…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:04 PM
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And again women make up the voting population. But let’s say this, 14/50 states. Again like I said earlier they could just idk… move lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:43 PM
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Those arent equivalent. The equivalent is men being able to not pay for a child they didn’t want cause you’re right it’s not their body. But they should have the same right to not want a kid if accident happened
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:33 PM
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Women are the main voters in this country. They make up 66% of voters. Not to mention abortion isn’t even illegal in those states they just say you can’t do it after a certain point and they turned it over to the states.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:11 PM
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“More importantly, we found that violence was perpetrated more frequently (by women only) and was more likely to result in injury when it was reciprocal as opposed to nonreciprocal.” https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/full/10.2105/AJPH.2005.079020 This shows the gender pay gap has been debunked as the old study just saw how much the average man made and woman made and that’s it. https://equi-law.uk/gender-pay-gap/ Your last source explained that men have had more IPV than women and that rape …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:43 PM
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So she still has that right then if she can just move and have it done?? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:20 PM
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Ok so if it takes two then he should get input or the ability to not pay if she wants to care for it. It makes sense as she can drop accountability by abortion. Lol at taking accountability from men by saying we should make them pay but women can do what they want then.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:19 PM
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Ok for one men get DV more and women often start it more. “Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases.” https://aliesq.medium.com/extensive-research-women-initiate-domestic-violence-more-than-men-men-under-report-it-3bbaa4fbec9d They don’t even identify men as much in trafficking “While women constitute about twice the percentage of iden…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:17 PM
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Then I find that funny the main response men are told when they get a girl pregnant on accident was “should’ve used protection” and now has to pay for a child he didn’t want.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:05 PM
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I already answered that with my statement. Now do you think crime can ever stop?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:58 PM
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…did you forget the first part of my comment? Not to mention why don’t they do what they tell dudes to do? Use protection and be accountable for not getting pregnant if you don’t want a kid. Before you use the rape example, not only does that make a small percentage of all crime but it’s still not illegal to have an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:57 PM
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Who is justifying anything? Answer the question
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:54 PM
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Hang on so do you think crime can and will cease to exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:52 PM
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So something unattainable?? Got it Does that extend to male rape to or is it just women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:51 PM
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In those states it just says they can’t get an abortion within a certain timeframe. They didn’t lose the right. They turned the right over to the states. They can easily move to another state.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:42 PM
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And most aren’t??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:47 PM
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Yes it does. Single childless women out earn single childless men. Women don’t go to jobs like welding as it’s often back breaking work and they are often weaker. And why are you putting bias in quotes?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:23 AM
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Women are also encouraged the most in school than men are and have shown to get bias in grades by their teachers. That’s absolutely part of socialization
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:04 AM
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Most women are going to college than men. If things were as you say they are then this would be the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:56 AM
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In education it’s definitely not pushed anymore and even with families I see men and women advocating that their daughters get good jobs to protect themselves from certain men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:48 AM
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That’s not what we are talking about lol. You jumped to extremes. One could be lazy and not emotional neglect. If you see the guy getting more comfortable as useless and inept, then you prove my point on why dudes have to be that way otherwise they’ll be seem that way lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:09 AM
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More often than not trying to be friends first and then date them often doesn’t work and then you lost a friend. You can approach a person as a person but trying to be friends first and then date is often the wrong way to go about things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 10:04 PM
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Who said anything about pretending to care and then emotionally neglecting someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 09:39 PM
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That’s a good way to make friends for sure. To get a partner? Not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 09:33 PM
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How many people fluff things up for the sake of a partner? I know women do with just makeup alone. It’s the same thing. It doesn’t make anyone a good or bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 09:33 PM
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You say that but most guys will absolutely not get into a relationship that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 09:22 PM
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Even you acknowledged how much it is to get a woman. A lot of that won’t be sustainable to do for the rest of your life. That doesn’t give an excuse not to try, sure. But regardless men do have to do a lot to get into one so it’s understandable that dudes want to chill out at least a bit
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:47 PM
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You see the pattern as we are trying to encourage more women into the spaces you said they are discouraged from joining. Is there a need to help people? Sure but does it trump keeping electricity and water running? No as without that things will become even worse. It does help society. But it doesn’t help as much as what I said above and not to mention it actually comes out of taxes so it’s arguably a negative. They are paid less because it’s easy to use a machine to make a product. It’s harder …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:02 PM
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Yes. Because not everything has a study. Things start out as hypothesis
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:35 PM
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The average for a registered nurse right now is 89,000… It’s tokenistic yet it’s why most women are in college and why men aren’t??? Social work isn’t as important as a job like engineering or electrical. One is a need to keep lights and key things going while another is helping those unfortunate. Help is a luxury at the end of the day. Not a need to keep society running
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:07 PM
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Who is discouraged from certain industries? Most of the time I’ve seen companies and scholarships for women to get into male dominated jobs and even quotas. The jobs that women do are often social work which you could argue is not as important as engineering. But women often are into nursing which pays really well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:01 PM
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Then talk to them??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 06:51 PM
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Women earn less due to the jobs they choose. More women have degrees than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 06:43 PM
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And I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 06:24 PM
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Well with everything that’s being pushed out that says that men are extremely dangerous to the point that we can’t even have conversations with strangers like we did in the past, I’d say they show that that’s the case
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 06:22 PM
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Disagree. It oftens taught now how women did this and that. If anything the way women see the world is what goes. It’s acceptable to hate on men even in classes but not the other way around or even critique women from what I’ve seen
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 06:21 PM
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So at this point what is now currently the end goal of feminism? More women are in college. Women have gotten rid of their gender roles. Women are starting to earn the same as men and when single and in big cities earn more than men while single. They are starting to own more property. At what point do we say “it’s done and it’s did what it’s supposed to do”?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 06:16 PM
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Birth rates are declining in countries where feminism is a big talking point
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 06:10 PM
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So it’s scarier because people don’t go out and talk?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 06:08 PM
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“The FBI data, which compares crime rates in the third quarter of 2023 to the same period last year, found that violent crime dropped 8%, while property crime fell 6.3% to what would be its lowest level since 1961, according to criminologist Jeff Asher, who analyzed the FBI numbers.” https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna129585 Violent crime is at in all time low.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 06:05 PM
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What’s all the time? Cause I mainly see them bitching about men for that and some how still blaming men with patriarchal dating preferences of women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 06:02 PM
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They are successful cause people are on average shorter there. The average height in china is 5’8. There are plenty of men that are shorter than that. (Myself included). This does not mean that just because the average population is shorter that women will not prefer someone taller. And that literally paints a picture. More often than not they are struggling to even date anyway lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:49 PM
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No men just get threats on their life
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:40 PM
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Dude just cause the average height is shorter in those countries that doesn’t mean women don’t want taller men. Also if you wanna go that route you can also see that those countries are declining in kids and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:38 PM
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The same for a man?? Hate isn’t unique to women online
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:34 PM
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Except let’s be real, which gender has stricter preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:34 PM
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Yes??? Height is still something that women look for
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:33 PM
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There’s definitely dudes who are into that. BBW is an example
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:31 PM
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Love that the solution is still the guys fault. Are we gonna keep this same energy towards women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:31 PM
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So the Bible? Something that people are moving away from? Not to mention god gave punishment when Adam ate it rather than just when eve ate it. Let’s not pretend women are under scrutiny as much as men are. It’s ok for women to hate men in today’s society due to the “hit up not down” idea seeing all men as oppressors.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:27 PM
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That’s not why it was fun. It was fun cause even when women hit on you sometimes it’s not in a way like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:26 AM
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I’m straight. But even then it still made my day
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:23 AM
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I’ve had guys hit on me. I’d still say that I’d rather switch roles with women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 06:46 PM
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