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It’s not rhetoric it’s reality. Most women make it hard for avg men and make it super easy for chads. It perfectly fits into dynamics - avg man can have sex once a month(or even rarer) if he’s not in a relationship, and a chad can in many cases have sex with different women everyday, if he really prioritises such behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 08:05 AM
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I have always told that a woman who’s using a man for his attention/resources without giving him sex is exactly the same as a man using a woman for sex and not giving her attention/resources
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:51 PM
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Fair but what’s the point? This shit won’t deliver to lonely, desperate person. In order to change their minds you need to understand them first and in their world they are victims of gens, societal expectations etc etc. argue from that point
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:34 PM
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Understood. I just feel like some people need to be judged to become better versions of themselves. Otherwise these people don’t stop participating in degrading behaviour exercising their free will. But neither of us can absolutely state which approach is the right one I guess your works on some people and mine works on others.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 06:44 AM
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You’re 50/50 right. It isn’t for our safety at the moment, but the principle of inevitability of punishment(at least they declare it) makes people commit crime way less often. Of course police station cannot and could not possibly protect you 100% of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 06:06 AM
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Man I don’t promote hate speech etc, but having your own opinion and declaring it even if it is judgmental i don’t feel it’s wrong. Like if a government has the ability to judge people why can’t I?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:56 AM
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Feel free to judge people - they’re free to do their shit you’re free to do your which includes having your opinion about others. The question is what alternative most men have instead of watching porn? They couldn’t get sex that easily and for many of them getting sex would be accompanied with having to simp etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:48 AM
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For me personally relaxed and wet vagina makes so much more sense. Even though I have somewhat death grip, there is this male orgasm when you cum not by your dick being under pressure, but by how fucking incredible and gentle and pleasurably it feels with every thrust. These orgasms are much better and last longer cause the tension builds up longer and you enjoy the whole process more than just cumming out of pressuring your d.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:45 AM
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It is better that your parents own you than the government cause the parents at least do care about your well being. Remember Ancient Greece when they were killing babies that they deemed to be weak. This is example of a society in which kids are owned by the state. And it is sad cause somebody has got to be taking care of you therefore having authority over you. Cause you are a kid and do not understand many things until later. And this somebody is better to be you parents
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:26 AM
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It’s not like something comes first. It all comes in complex. Both misandry and misogyny. Yet men are somewhat fine with sexism and many women talk about it too much. So this is why you hear that rhetoric about women’s hypocrisy - if you want to end misogyny stop being misandristic. A perfect example of women being anti-sexist yet also sexist is: my former head of department once said that for a woman to buy an apartment in our country is a huge achievement. To which I replied that for a man it …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:22 AM
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Oh I get it. No, the guy isn’t that religious or conservative. I’d say he does not have any strong beliefs. It is just about getting validation from women. He’s excited until he realises he got her. This is it. He literally said to me that he can’t be attracted to girls who approach him or who flirt with him. He’s attracted to inaccessible women. But then he says “why this b*tch don’t come to me and say hi, I won’t approach her, fuck it.” And it goes nowhere. Cause he is so used to get women’s a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 03:30 PM
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No it’s not. Idk how do you make it up to religion. It is unrelated to the topic. People do get lesser sentences because of their appearance. People do get perceived differently based on their appearance. A very attractive person can say total bullshit and many people would be fine with it. An ugly person can get judged even by stating facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 03:24 PM
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To them ugly guys will always be worse cause they’re ugly lol. Remember that attractive people get lesser sentences in jail. So probably a guy treats her bad but she’s coping with it cuz he’s hot. The same way as men are coping with a woman’s shot cuz she’s hot I have one friend who’s very attractive. He loses interest in a woman the moment he understands she’s ready to give it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 10:57 AM
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You’re right. If one party is withholding something as essential as having sex in a monogamous relationship, there should be no moral barrier for the other party to withhold its effort. They start to understand you only when they are put in your shoes. When they start to lack something that made them happy. Only a tiny percentage of people are capable of resolving dead bedroom with the “communication” way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 10:53 AM
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I’d argue that insane amount of stress people are having in this day and age plays a big part. Women are in general harder to get aroused and need more boxes to check than men (in general). Earlier people worked not that much time, and even during feudalism in France people rested for almost half of the year. Imagine half of the year being non-work days lol. But still, if you live your significant other and you do prioritise truly important things, I think there’s no excuse to have a dead bedroo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 10:49 AM
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Yeah this is quite accurate explanation. Like there almost none body odour in countries like japan, cause(as scientists theorise) their sex selection was directed against having strong odour. If average woman wants to be equal to a man then she should date men who are equal to her. Same income, same physical capabilities, same emotional behaviour, ideally everything the same. Yet most women still want to have benefits of a hypermasculine man around them and simultaneously him being a cuck only f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:14 PM
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Yeah I had one girl who got asked what would she do if she was born male. She instantly said “I would fuck around”. Little did she know 😂🥲
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:36 PM
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Yeah like mid guy is something to be ashamed of lol. What a surprise that an average man could get at least some girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 08:48 AM
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My bro is 10% of looks. He gets approached all the time, by good women, bad women, all kinds. Guess what? He is turned off when a woman approaches him. He is turned off of women being easy. He wants to chase, so he is attracted only to women who happen to be out of reach. At the same time he complains “I know this bitch likes me, why doesn’t she approach”. And he really does struggle to find a woman he would fell in love with. Ah, problems of very attractive people… 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 08:45 AM
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Do you read what you type? How society and every individual can drop their expectations? People have expectations for literally everything, including their partners. I want my future wife to be certain way. My future wife wants me to be certain way. It is normal, because people have the right to choose who they marry. And it is not other people dictating me how to be, I know what they want, I know what I want. It is my decision to change myself in order to attract certain people. Nobody can forc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:14 PM
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If women are feminine and supportive, I am fine being strong and reliable. When we talk about showing vulnerability we need specifics, what and how exactly you will show. But yeah, it is kinda shitty to adjust yourself to expectations of the other sex, but I guess it is what it is. Society wants men who can solve problems, not those who will “show emotions” in front of a danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:04 AM
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Me being angry at you has nothing to do with my relationship lol. You say having game is 1%, but women don’t have even that. It is meme amongst men that “women have no game”. I don’t get your “for a woman both career and marriage is a wrong choice”. What is right then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 04:50 AM
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Yeah there are no pickupers who train their approach, there are no gymbros, there are no men in the world who become better version of themselves on a daily basis in order to attract the best women they can. It does not exist, only women improve lol. The point of op was a man’s opening up to a woman. So I’m my head it is you going off too by “as of men are trying to understand women”. Topic is about the opposite. Yet you circlejerk, it is also such a fucking cliche, whenever men talk about their…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 04:32 AM
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Do women try to understand men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 04:20 AM
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When it comes to women, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 04:17 AM
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But honestly I think that op is right. Men should talk out their problems with other men. As much as men will never be able to understand what it is to be a woman(having periods, societal expectations), woman will never understand what it is to be a man. Remember there was a girl who has transitioned to male gender. She was so shocked about how people treat her when they really think she is a man. She ended up killing herself. I think, this woman could understand what men go through their lives,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 04:15 AM
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Problem exists, I agree. I’ve found for myself a good one I think 😂, not a bitch for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 04:07 AM
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With your first paragraph I completely agree. But it Is not my perception of showing vulnerability. As you said, it is confidence. If you’re not afraid to be rejected then it means you are not vulnerable in the moment of approaching. Cause the point of vulnerability is that you may be hurt and it depends on the other person, do they hurt you or not, it requires big level of trust. About showing inner thoughts. I also agree and I disagree that it is about being vulnerable. It works and attracts w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 03:55 AM
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Well then don’t be a bitch. It was his girlfriend/wife who posted this story. And the point of posting it was: is her friend(who told the man truth) an asshole or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 08:11 PM
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Not necessarily ugly. They say “height does not matter” cause they have married short king. A form of cope, they know height matters
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 06:14 PM
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Man you do your homework and figure out what that means lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 06:04 PM
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Well you can argue you can use no evidence to generalize as there are 8 billion people on earth so you gotta know at least half of them to make sense right. What do you expect from me? Literally to any bullshit you can say WELL YOU CANT GENERALIZE. Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 05:45 PM
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That was not an anecdote, there was a post, posted by a man’s gf, it was long and she blamed her friend for telling truth to husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 05:15 PM
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As I said, leave the country. Yet they are more comfortable risking their man’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:50 PM
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I don’t remember exactly, but probably grief or smth like that, valid reason so to say
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:47 PM
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You know what coping is?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:39 PM
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What
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:38 PM
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In regards to vulnerability. I did cry in front of my current gf, and we are still together (3,5 years). But what was the point of crying? I don’t think it has positive impact. Being vulnerable for me is about showing your weaknesses to other people. But again what’s the point? Instead of showing them off you better work on it. What kind of relief or reward will you get if you are to show your weakness? Many people exploit it, people hurt you by using it. And you know time is not infinite, you l…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:36 PM
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Yeah words and concern mean a lot to a guy who’s about to die in a ditch. Ofc more women do worry about their husbands. But I’m sure they don’t do too much to prevent it. They better send their man to a war than risk well-being and leave a country. This says to me a lot. But please don’t make it about women, it was about society. Society does not care. Including women. It’s like if you got into Ukraine you are unlucky one. Others are fine and don’t give a shit until their relative goes to war.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:27 PM
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I tried. Many men tried. Either we did it wrong way or it just does not work. We men adapt to what works. And I’m kinda okay with that. Women want a strong reliable men, men want beautiful feminine women. I am okay with that model as long as both parties provide what is required. In regards to society. There is a sore problem for me - war in Ukraine. Guess what? Zero fucks given by Ukrainian state and whole world that these men don’t want to fight Russians and die. The same applies to Russian me…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 03:55 PM
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It is common sense for me and for many other people as you might see. I can’t prove it and you can’t disprove it. It is pointless. It is how I feel. It is my experience and experience of many other men cause this rethoric only became more popular in recent years
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 03:14 PM
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That’s mostly women I guess. There was a post a long time ago. A man have cried once in front of his wife. Later, the wife complained to her friend “I wish he would have never cried in front of me” or smth like that. Guess what, he found out this shit and got heartbroken.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 02:57 PM
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Sadly many women are attracted to this gender stereotype of a strong man. And a strong man cannot be vulnerable. The whole idea of being a strong man is that you’re never vulnerable. I would say be open about emotions but don’t show vulnerability. Anyways a woman is not likely to help you get over your problems unless it is something about mental health or that kind of a thing. If it is something that needs to be done and for example you lack discipline/motivation, showing this will create zero …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 02:54 PM
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Yeah virtue signalling is real. Also I do think this is the way for them to cope with their not so attractive partner. But I hope that there are women, who say it genuinely.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 08:18 AM
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You are right. If you u want to establish meaningful relationship do not start with sex. Get to know each other. But don’t withhold sex for too much long, if after 2-3 weeks of casual chatting/dating with this guy you feel it, go for it. Men want to see women they have as a prize, as something of value. We don’t value women who give sex right away even though we like it. We like it on a superficial level, but on a deeper level we instantly consider women like these non wife material. Logic is: i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:09 AM
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Ofc it depends on an individuality of a man. A simpy guy with no self respect who has very little sex experience probably will fall in love for getting sex fast. Even though he’s the least likely to get it lol. Those guys, who women are attracted to in general, would be turned off if sex happens very fast. Yeah like ofc they would have sex with a woman who’s easy, but they won’t commit. It happened to me, it happened to many of my friends. A girl might be beautiful, nice, etc. but if she’s easy …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:46 AM
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I am in relationship already. “Then go be a fuckboy” - many men do it already. Women all of a sudden start to complain that courtship is dead though. “It is logical” - to some degree, it is. But it is not so white/black as you might think. Also you do not address my point about value of sex. If women give it too easy, it has no value in the eyes of men. This is why fuckboys do not get attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 12:12 PM
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No I think sex comes first and then an ltr. Because sexual incompatibility is one of the most popular reasons for a divorce. I personally don’t expect women to have sex with strangers, what I talk about is when a woman fucks fuckboys but vets husband material guys. Guys who are husband material in those situations feel inferior to fuckboys, so women kinda reinforce bad behaviour. I want my future wife to vet every man in her life before having sex with said man, including me. I want to know that…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 11:53 AM
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I meant we don’t care about personality in regards to do we want to have sex or not. For relationships of course we do care “Ask for a hookup”. This is not a simple solution even though it might work for some. We want to get that sex but we want it to be valuable if we are to establish an ltr with this woman. We don’t want it to be nor too hard neither too easy. And we don’t want our future wife to have a history of one night stands for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 11:45 AM
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Yo the worst part about it all is that when women want hook up they give it easily to fuckboys. When women want an ltr they make this guy wait. I get women’s reasoning behind that, that they want to get to know a man, but from a man’s standpoint this is insanely stupid. You reward with wild sex those who are not really interested in you and make wait and give probably mediocre sex to those who do really love you and want to commit. Fucked up. By the way we men yeah, we really don’t care about wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 11:36 AM
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I’m not native English speaker, so I wonder if blessing in disguise is when your looks alone can’t bring you men anymore so you need to develop an actual personality to compete with others? Then they say men have it easier. Many women as op admitted start to care about personality only when looks start to fade, so does the male attention. This is why your 17yo gf would talk shit and a 34 yo woman will cook the best dish she can for you. You know what? Absolute majority of men don’t even have thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 09:03 PM
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Very well may be but I never seen an ugly guy who’s been close friends with a woman or many women. So there is filter of attraction even to friendzone I guess. Many talk about plans-b etc
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:16 PM
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I don’t think women put in friend zone guys who they have 0 attraction to. They most likely are attracted to a degree, but they have this guy they are really attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:22 PM
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They absolutely do want attention from an average dude. If it’s the opposite then how do you explain them constantly not giving a guy any and putting him in friendzone but continuing sending mixed signals to him? It is exactly to get validation that she can’t get from “the man”. She struggles because of it and copes with average validation. And then she loses even average validation, it’s a disaster for many. But for those who throughout their life experiences true love and connection, probably …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:36 AM
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No actually it would inflate their standards as they would think that top tier men are the only men so it would become bare minimum to be top tier men lol. Average men should not exclude themselves for the rest of life. Just don’t focus on it as much. Chase your own shit and if a good woman presents on your life, give it a shot but don’t overthink. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:30 AM
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I would say men need to go from getting validation from women to getting validation from other men. This is much more healthy way given the inequality of attraction that goes from men to women and vice versa. And the good thing is that when you are respected by many other men, suddenly women start liking you, this is a natural process.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 05:54 AM
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In fact, “I can change him” is much more cliche than the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 05:38 AM
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If there are hypothetically 0 people who you could date, you probably start negotiating instead of looking for the one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 05:36 AM
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Age 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 05:21 AM
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People shouldn’t have relationships at all, because in relationships there are problems lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 05:18 AM
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It is not patriarchy lol dude, they just want attention and validation from you and they don’t get it, so they don’t see a point to be friends anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 10:38 PM
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Yeah, we are attracted instantly in 90% of the times.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 01:56 PM
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The problem is that many women end up exploring without getting commitment from a guy who they genuinely like. And then they either end up single for life or they settle for a quote nice guy anyways. The real problem here I guess is that social media has inflated our looks/wealth expectations for our partners, so many people including men are naturally attracted to people who are way above their league. This is not a healthy situation, this is why many women chase fboys, cause they can’t get wet…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 10:35 AM
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There’s honestly no reason to enter a relationship with a person you do not like that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 10:28 AM
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No doubt it is common knowledge that women protect children with their lives, there was a horrible terroristic attack in Moscow about a year and a half ago, and there were videos how terrorists shoot a group of people and women protect kids using their own bodies. But original post was about male-female dynamic, in that sense, I believe most women are perfectly fine giving up their life for a child, not so fine for a man. I have a strong feeling that men love women more, and women love their kid…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 11:11 AM
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Cause expecting men to die in war requires some societal practices as raising men with feeling that they need to give up their life for something greater, you extrapolate that. A person who’s willing to die protecting someone or fighting for a country is in my opinion more likely to sacrifice in other areas of life. In other comments I talked about how women are raised to care more about their well-being than men(cause women carry pregnancies and they need to be healthy it’s biology). Men consta…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:10 AM
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You see, it is always men to do shit and fix everything 😂 As I said it’s likely just a pushback on injustice men feel (it does not make it right it just is what it is). And you say men need to realise there’s no injustice which is arguable but ok. When the opposite happens and women pushback on injustices they feel, for example this thing about choosing a bear, which is insanely stupid, people argue that no, women don’t need to do anything, it’s men need to do better in order for women not to ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 11:33 AM
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Tell it is a fantasy for those who take it seriously and who expect this irl
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 08:49 AM
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Well know that I reread I understood I misunderstood you or maybe replied to wrong one okay
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 07:42 AM
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I countered your point and obv you can’t argue this is why you talk shit
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 07:41 AM
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F yourself 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 07:37 AM
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Such an L take to say we are all humans that means we all do the same. Maybe women earn the same? Or women commit crimes the same? Or women do sports the same? We are different and raised different. Where I live men are taught to protect others, to get involved in dangerous situations to protect your loved ones. Women are taught to care about herself more, because in order to give birth to a healthy kids a woman needs to be healthy. All this makes perfect sense. This differentiation makes us dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 07:05 AM
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Well it is my sacrifice that I chose to leave therefore my life got worse. Because I’m a man. But this is offtop. Ofc everyone does sacrifices, my point was women do less, from my experience. No women hate, just observation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 06:55 AM
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Men die in war this is a fact. Idk where blaming women is here
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 06:51 AM
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I left Russia because of it and it ruins my life to this day
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 06:49 AM
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I already answered, yes I am bothered. Realising status quo made me think differently, so reverse would do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 05:07 AM
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Yeah maybe he just needs to find a good one don’t u think
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 05:03 AM
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I mean you are part of that statistics about divorces etc, what makes you think you are exception? To answer your question, genuinely, it’s not that big of a deal if everything is so ideal like you portrayed, but yeah I’m bothered by these things. I think choosing a woman to spend your life with is one of the most important life decisions you can make. If you make mistake your life can be ruined. So when I read about 80% divorces I am kinda bothered, cause I think that okay, I am no different th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:59 PM
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You are kinda stuck on this thought that we are not suited for relationships. I am in one, 3 years and it’s fine, dunno about op. I think the issue here is not like women ask, the issue is, like you said, that people give help and ask for help. And I think some women ask but do not reciprocate. Unfortunately, some women think and openly express that just their presence around a man is value in itself, some women even think that a man owes them something cause he gets sex. The real issue is that …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:45 PM
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I don’t think it’s that he not suited for romantic relationships, I think that he is tired of women’s demands. This is actually very accurate what op said. After some time of dating, some women start to ask you for something or even demand. Like help to move to a new place or lend money, etc etc. This happens more often than you might think.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:33 PM
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Well you’re no exception, this is my main point here. If stats say you’re 80% likely to divorce, it is what it is, choose wisely that’s it. For those who chose to not marry, I’d say it is logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:27 PM
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I stated from the start “from my perspective and experience” you are making no sense rn
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 06:28 PM
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If women from my perspective on average are bad at something and I talk about it, it is not called shitting on them. When women talk about things that men lack in general, it’s not shitting
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 06:24 PM
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I agree I can go a bit offtop but you could continue to argue sacrifices women make in relationship(to which I replied), you did not and instead started talking about my agenda lol. You’re the one who’s stopped debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 06:15 PM
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Well if you’re willing to neglect those men who dies protecting those who they love including women, which is not offtop, it only proves my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 06:10 PM
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I don’t think it’s that simple. You make it seem like talking about generalities and realizing them is pointless but I believe it is not. Understanding how a certain group of people behaves on average helps you understand them and their true motives therefore helps you to communicate with them properly. You say it is pointless to think that “I won’t get married cuz women are divorcing 80% of times”. I’d argue it is not. What if women filed 100% times? What if 100% of marriages would be getting f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 05:48 PM
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Ahhh all you can say is “DID YOU GO TO WAR YOURSELF?”. It’s not about me, millions of men died in Ukraine. Because of the draft and ongoing war, and because I don’t support Putin, I left Russia. It changed my life completely, it got worse. It got worse cause I’m a man and don’t wanna die in a stupid war for nothing. Meanwhile women are living their lives not giving a fuck about it. So yes, it affected me. And men do not ban women from serving, you can go if you want you stupid. Look at US milita…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 04:16 PM
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Where I live you are expected to protect your woman from shit, and I think it’s worldwide common sense. Some men die in a process of it. It is not about war it’s not about something that’s abstract to you. Bodies - okay I get it women give birth but they claim they do it for themselves don’t they? So who they sacrifice for? Careers - in many countries you get paid leave and can easily return to workplace after 2-3 years. But under certain circumstances yeah it’s total career sacrifice I guess. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 04:07 PM
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I agree with you on almost everything here. I did not start this topic, I comment on what is said above, and it is a discussion about generalities. My gf is also more open minded than most of women in my country. It does not mean I don’t care that majority of others are demanding too much while not reciprocating. And I get what you say but you can’t really play this card of “I don’t care about others”. In Russia we say, if you are not interested in politics, means that the politics are intereste…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 03:59 PM
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You’re not making a point. Women do sacrifices, just not as frequent as men. It is my experience. Relationship-wise, men do protect their female partners, and sometimes die, which is a ultimate sacrifice - your life. People just don’t want to give credit to men for this, like this is bare minimum lol. You are expected to earn more, you are expected to die protecting her, and also you are expected to do homestuff 50/50 lol. Also, you are expected to buy proposal ring, because wedding is about a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 02:44 PM
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As sad as it is, and as stupid as it is, I think it’s just a pushback on this injustice that many men feel nowadays in regards heterosexual relationships. For men divorce is like an end of a life - you get to pay alimony, sometimes permanently, you most likely do not get a custody, high probability that your exwife make your kids not like you. And all this can be done just because your wife wants a divorce. Imagine, she got bored, she is constantly unhappy which is most likely her internal probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 02:41 PM
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Women on Reddit probably have their own reality😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 02:24 PM
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Nope. It is you who are delusional. I never said that women don’t do that. For example, in Russian army there is 1 woman for every 1000 men. You cannot argue who pays on the first date more often. You cannot argue who takes initiative in male-female dynamic more often. Men are more likely to give up their life for a greater goal, whatever they think it is - protect family, country, wife, stranger. You can also watch all these videos where people get asked: if you could choose who to die - you or…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 02:20 PM
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Of course they do. But from my perspective and experience, they do it less frequently. We can start from men dying in war all the way to who pays on the first date and who takes initiative. It is all sacrifices in one form or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 12:42 PM
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So the problem is not that women aren’t willing to sacrifice anything most of the times, yet expect men to give anything, the problem apparently is this dude realising it. Okay Edit: I had here like 7 upvotes, somebody called their friends to downvote this comment lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 09:51 AM
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Well if your surrounding is that bad, you can start in another city, I heard in America people are very mobile. Anyways, complaining about other people treating you bad won’t change anything. I strongly believe that there are almost no situations in which you can’t find a way. Unless you have some serious injuries or health problems. In every situation it is just a matter of can you find the will and discipline to get through it. And that is not “positive” thinking, it is rational, self-accounta…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 07:12 PM
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You’re right, but what’s the solution? You can’t make other people respect by asking them. It is absolutely a waste of time. You can only be a better version of yourself so other people respect and love you naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 07:01 PM
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He’s not wrong though
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 06:52 PM
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Well it is your choice to value opinions of other people over your own opinion about yourself. You are half-right though. If everyone around blames and hates you most likely you end up asocial unsuccessful human being. It’s a matter of difficulty. But it is still up to this human being to overcome this. We can blame the society as much as we want but it will not solve the problem. You can’t make other people respect you. They choose to either respect you or not. And the first step here would be …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 06:51 PM
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As it sings “chase a shit, never chase a b*tch”. If you pursue money, you will never lose on women, if you pursue women, you will always lose money. Women are essential for many men to be happy, but I’d say that women are like cheery on top of cake that’s your life. If you don’t have a cake(life-money/status/social circle), then there’s no place for a cherry to be on top. Also I think this is a good analogy cause cherry adds to your cake, it is NOT your cake by itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 03:55 PM
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Because leftists are Marxists. For them men killing men is something like aristocrats killing other aristocrats, and they see themselves as peasantry which should at best not care about it. The issue comes when women are assaulted by men. Because now it’s between-group identity violence. This is a major issue with leftism in itself. They view people not like individuals, they view people by the groups they represent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 11:39 AM
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Exactly, with my current gf it was exactly like this, she invited and planned everything, ordered and paid for a pizza, got a bottle of wine etc. she put effort because she sees value in me. Those who don’t put effort… do not waste your time on them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 07:07 AM
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No bro gold diggers won’t sacrifice anything for you, it is purely a transactional relationship, it is just covered prostitution. Read wives on the other hand would support you through hard times and make an actual effort not demanding something from you. They would give you love and care because they love you, not because you put in money. But yeah, because they are busy with kids, your social life and home chores. The commonality between tradwives and golddiggers is that a man earns and provid…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:00 PM
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Yea the main point of being not a gold digger is being attracted to a man’s personality/looks, and reciprocating his financial input by providing care etc
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:54 PM
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As my female friend once told: “No I’m not a sexist, I just believe that the one who invites is the one who pays. When I invite somebody, I pay for them. The thing is, I never invite guys on dates. giggling”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:03 AM
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The thing is that the whole concept is designed in a way, that consent can be withdrawn afterwards. It is specifically designed this way for women to hold more power against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 01:17 PM
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They care for looks more for hookup, they care more about status when it comes to something serious
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 10:39 AM
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If you look at societies where people are atomised the most, there is the highest rate of suicide. So, I guess it tells.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:48 PM
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It may be, or it may be that it is real. Of course, we all would like to be these self-reliant independent humans, but science tells us that people are social and need social validation, in one form or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:44 PM
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Elaborate please
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:41 PM
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Women get compliments and male attention 100x of what an average man gets. Sex for us is that form of opposite sex attention that compensates lack of compliments and appreciation that women get. So, for men sex is more needed psychologically. Read about women who age and become unattractive, how much more depressed they become, cause people start to treat her like a normal human being lol. This is what male life looks like from the start
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:35 PM
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We all got that you couldn’t argue anymore and you chose to attack personality. Don’t push yourself too hard
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:47 PM
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“Even” lol. I guess language of analogies work only in one direction in your mind, typical for lefties though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:42 PM
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Analogy is not an argument, again. By your own logic women shouldn’t have the right to vote. Because originally men voted, because they served in army and died for what they voted. It just happened that only men served in military cause we are stronger by nature, so we had the right to vote. Just like in this case, it is nature that only women are getting pregnant, so only women get to choose to be parent or not lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:30 PM
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It is how things are designed nowadays. If men would have a choice, those who want to be fathers would have parental rights, those who don’t want wouldn’t have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:22 PM
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No, fathers have no rights if they opt out. Of both father and mother agree not to do an abortion, both have parental rights. How this conclusion comes to your mind - if men have choice to opt out, all men including those who want to be fathers have no parental rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:06 PM
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So if body autonomy of an individual matters more than needs and even life of a kid, why a man who happened to conceive cannot opt out? Because having this kid creates obvious obligations. And if you do not fulfill those obligations, you can be put in jail(no body autonomy).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 11:55 AM
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It does not work like that. If you have right to do abortion it means your right matters more than the life of a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 11:51 AM
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Analogy is not an argument. So what matters more - obligations to your children or your right to have an abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 06:57 PM
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But in these situations subjects do not have equal rights. Practically only women get pregnant. So, if a woman gets pregnant, she has a choice to end pregnancy. A man who’s got her pregnant does not have this choice. You see injustices? Somebody here actually proposed a great idea - in 5 months women can get an abortion, and men also can opt out of dealing with baby. This would be ideal I think. In this case both men and women would have their rights and their say in regard to having kid. If a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:48 PM
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You do not address my points, you are making your own points. You can repeat yourself as much as you like, what’s the point? The core issue here is - women can escape parental rights and obligations by doing an abortion. Men do not have this option. This makes women final decision makers, but puts obligations on both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:01 PM
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You really seem to not get the idea. Women have right to not be parent even if a child is conceived. Men do not have this right. What so hard to understand? Even so, a man don’t have right to be a parent if his woman don’t want to. About what parental rights do you talk exactly? Maybe you mean parental obligations? Seems like men have less parental rights than women and more parental obligations, don’t you think so?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 03:58 PM
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According to some pro-choicers (women prochoicers) here, when a woman kills a baby which is inside her body, it is an act of exercising body autonomy. When a man is being put in jail cause he haven’t paid child support, SOMEHOW, body autonomy does not work. For those who are on more slow side of the spectrum - when you’re in jail, your body do not exercise autonomy. Also, as we all know, men have no rights to dictate women to keep a child or not, because of body autonomy. Yet women are perfectly…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 01:57 PM
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Dude it’s pointless to argue with him… Somehow aborting a child is an act of exercising body autonomy. Say this to a man who’s put in jail because he haven’t paid child support
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 01:51 PM
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Yet only women are getting pregnant, not all “people”. You’re making it universal but it’s not. And if we look at the reality and not your clownshow we see that because only women get pregnant, only women end up making a decision of abortion. This decision creates certain situations in which men end up taking responsibility for another person’s decision. This is unjust in itself. Men do their decision when they consent to sex as you might say. Yet women have an extra right to abolish a decision …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 01:46 PM
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You are missing it or what? Women are already solo decision-makers in regards of carrying a child. Yet men have to be responsible for a decision made without them. You can argue that men accepted this responsibility when they consented to sex. But you cannot say this to a woman who’s gonna abort a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 01:20 PM
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Don’t worry, laughs are mutual
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:24 PM
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I wonder what your man would think if he read this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:23 PM
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Don’t play fool here. Everyone could understand what I mean, except you. If you’re truly having problems getting it, I’m sorry, I can’t explain it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:11 PM
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Ah you’re right, many men nowadays don’t have standards
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:06 PM
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Accountable for not meeting your hypothetical spouse’s standards
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 02:53 PM
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I think that it’s fine that women expect men to do some things as we also expect some things from women. The real problem here is that women don’t care about our feelings most of the times because we are men and we are ought to do things regardless of how we feel. Men by the way care about women’s feelings. Or at least culture tells us to do. So at the end of the day what makes men these “machines” is not that we are expected to do something functional, but the fact that women don’t care about o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 09:46 AM
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Be whoever you wanna be, just hold yourself accountable in case of ending up alone. Yes, you’re right, we should stop. Because the other party do not reciprocate, it’s a one goal game. I’m scared that it will just make us both more miserable and drown birthrate even lower. But I guess self respect matters more.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:58 AM
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If you actually ask guys what they want or even read this subreddit, you would know guys want certain types of women, of course with some variety, but some traits are constant. Of course, you may be whatever the hell you wanna be, you are not bounded by men’s expectation, but just keep it real. Wanna be with men - try to be somebody a man wants to be with. By the way we, men, do this every fucking time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:52 AM
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Nah not nurse
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:46 AM
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Whaaaaat
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:45 AM
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Agree 100% But nothings different with women. They want vulnerable but masculine. Well-earning but helping with chores and childcare. Understanding but domineering and in some sense guiding. Social but spends much time with her. List goes on
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:39 AM
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I suppose we live in a different reality if you think that liberal women dress more femininely.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 04:56 AM
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Coming from the right perspective, you are right. If feminists want women’s rights to exist they need to convince men to protect their rights, because real men in itself don’t give a shit about women’s rights, they are busy getting their shit together. Look at Afghanistan. What happens when big daddies decide that there are no more women’s rights. It ceases to exist. And women also do not give a fuck about men’s rights, like conscription etc, in some(most) countries men retire at a later age, ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:57 PM
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Yeah we agree that we both do not agree with quotas. But original conversation was exactly about this. You tried to neglect it but yeah, not every time and not everywhere but quotas exist. The positive effects of quotas as you said is that we break stereotypes and help people who actually want to be nurses be nurses and not be ashamed of it. The problem with quotas is that it’s sexism in itself, because it divides people by gender. Also, in order to fulfil quotas one way or another you will negl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 03:53 PM
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What you describe is a positive DEI which can happen here and there. But don’t extrapolate your experience on everybody. Quotas as I said exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 06:05 AM
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You seem to play fool here. Nobody’s gonna hire you JUST because you have a pussy. Well, some pervs would but this is ridiculously low amount of people. What I say - if there are 2 equal employees and one is a man and another is a woman, you might be hired, because you’re a woman, because there are quotes, this is a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:40 PM
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Yes, there ARE quotas for women, so yes, in some cases people hire a woman over a man just because of the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 03:53 PM
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Wow you discovered Americas!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:14 PM
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It does not mean it has anything to do with your sex
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:03 AM
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You’re right, I just explained possible logic behind it. When the only source of female attention is your wife and she stops giving it to you it is possible a man’s gonna cheat. On the other hand of a man stops giving attention to his wife she still can get a ton of it outside without cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:47 AM
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It depends on how you define respect and kindness. Some women like badboys, we all know that. For them respect and kindness could be a “weakness”. Also there are men who, sadly, respect girls more than themselves. This is a bad thing to do. So nuances here and there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:22 PM
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This doesn’t mean tendencies don’t exist
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:11 PM
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Sure it is
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:09 PM
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Exactly, because this guy probably treats women as humans, with all bad qualities they have. Think about it, if some guy humiliated you in a comparable way, at best you would not care that he got raped/robbed/etc. but bc it is a girl and a girl you liked once, you feel sorry and hope she is doing better. It is kinda contradicting and unintuitive but there’s absolutely nothing sexy about it. To women it tells that they can treat you like shit and you still will care about them if something happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:43 PM
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Tbf I’ve also seen many couples with very attractive girl and mid guy. But you can’t really tell is she really attracted to him, or is she traumatised from pursuing men she genuinely like so much that she chooses “safe option”.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:26 PM
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Women are attracted to men who are not just violent, but who are able to be violent and can control it. For example when someone assaults you you need to stand up for yourself and probably your girlfriend. You need to enforce your boundaries on people if it gets violated. This is masculine in itself. The problem here is that you can easily tell if a man is capable of violence but to tel is he capable of controlling it is much harder, it takes time. I don’t think what’s redpill about it, but I wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:23 PM
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Valid. But there’s a thing that men are raised from a young age to endure pain, it certainly has its ups and downs, we are more likely to defend ourselves, and we are more likely to neglect our health problems. But let’s be real, in our generation it’s not like every woman books every doctor. I’ve never had my girlfriend book my doctors. Kinda true, with our birth rate we don’t hope for good pensions. That does not annul that women still get retired 3 years earlier than men. You do overlook that…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:29 PM
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Most men help, I would say on average chores are smth like 60-40/70-30. But given that men still outearn women and work more hours/more dangerous jobs/more stressful jobs, and as a result in every country men live less years, I don’t think it is unfair. For example men live in Russia 10 years less than women. And work more. Retiring age for us here is 65 and average expected lifespan is 66. Just imagine, work entire life and die. Women on the other hand retire at 62 and live to ~73. So 11x more …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:10 PM
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Well she does only half of it for her husband, the other half is hers. It’s not that hard to use a dishwasher, to use a washing machine and instead of packing it with 6 clothes you go 9 clothes. Cleaning floor etc would have been done either ways. Child caring I must admit yeah, it is consuming. But don’t act like everything they do they do for men only. And also, as another commenter said, I barely know families like this in our generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:50 PM
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I honestly think men attempt to cheat more because we do not get the same attention from women that women are getting from men. Women really do not need to cheat, they use men for attention, get ego boost and move on with good mood. Then repeat. Men on the other hand cannot do this, so men feel this attraction only the moment it comes down to having sex. So yeah, for many men I believe enjoying sex with women is first of all about psychological pleasure of getting attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:46 PM
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Haha, so you say women maintain themselves for men? What a discovery!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:43 PM
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Well it is your perspective as a woman, I can say as a man. You made a valid point about how more fabric can look better than less fabric. You’re right. But which way it can be better? I say you certainly can look more beautiful in general, some guys like more modest women. But from a guy’s standpoint I say we would be aroused and our mind would go crazy more often when certain parts of your body are revealed. This is how brain works. When we see curves under clothes we think oh she’s gorgeous. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:34 PM
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What
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:28 PM
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Yeah, women attacked men for multiple decades at this point, and we were supposed to just be silent about it, like in cases of domestic violence. Now it is time for men to stand up for ourselves, and bring true gender equality to a society. Women shall be conscripted to army and die in Middle East/Vietnam/Afghanistan/you name it for interests of a country. Also we need to get rid of pretty privilege and pussy-social-lift. Everything bases on meritocracy. And to do that, fellow men, we need to wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:13 AM
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What hiring privileges? 😂 If employer could hire a woman to do the same work as a man for less money, all men would be broke fr
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:00 AM
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“Right” cannot be conditional to where you live in your country. If you have the right to vote you vote in any state, if you have the right to carry a gun, you carry it in every state, etc. So yes, while many states remain abortion, “right” was lost. And this right was something which the Supreme Court approved, now it all comes down to states, which can change far more easily. Imagine you settle in one state build your whole career and all of a sudden this state ban abortions. So you either liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:58 AM
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Women’s problems in dating all come down to one thing - which man to choose. While men’s problems in dating is - how to become worthy enough to be selected. Guess which is harder in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:51 AM
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This comes from leftie who is himself against freedom of speech when he feels this way 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 04:23 AM
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No, there is a contradiction. You cannot say “where all the good men are” and “there are plenty of men who would like me” at the same time, it makes you look stupid. Or the men who would like to be with you are not “good men”. If you cannot find a good man you should say exactly it, not like there’s no good men anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:34 PM
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It doesn’t have anything to do with me. I just pointed that contradiction of the commenter above.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 08:16 AM
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Sure, honey. 6 months past and even those crying women will forget about their virtue signalling. If a woman meets the guy of her dreams, she won’t let some political shit ruin possibility of long-term happiness with said guy. And this is a smart move. Stupid move is to ruin your own life because of some crazy chick on the internet. Many many men didn’t support trump. But what matters the most is that Biden Harris administration did nothing during those 4 years to make abortion a right on a fede…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:30 PM
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Well his wife got brainwashed by social media and somehow it is this guy’s fault. Seems like no matter what men are always at fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:24 PM
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Fair enough 😂, but I’ve seen liberals who call her by first name too tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:19 PM
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It is about saying “man are shit” in a millions of forms. But don’t be sad, these women won’t stick to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 08:07 AM
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First of all, you really believe that much women will follow through this shit? I bet even those who are crying on social media won’t. And if they do, men in the us already withdrawn from having a relationships and are focused on self improving. Or they just gave up. And For those chads who have no problem having sex I don’t think they would recognise a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 08:06 AM
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There are plenty of TikToks idk have you seen it or not: 1. A woman gets to fly in an econom class airplane so she opens her camera and starts bitching on her boyfriend who paid for all of that. 2. The one who refused to go to cheesecake factory. Examples go on and on and you know what, we don’t see this type of shit in Eastern Europe/other parts of the world. And no man would like shit like this, neither trad, nor liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 08:00 AM
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“There are plenty of men who like American women well enough”. That’s why they cry on a tiktok “where all the good men are” 😂😂🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:52 AM
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So what about men who voted for Kamala? And how do you find it true that he voted for Kamala? The amount of inadequacy is astounding. Even those who behaved “well” get “punished” 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:51 PM
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In Russia there was a mass shooting in my city. A guy with a shotgun entered a university and started killing people. He end up killing some 20-30 people and was sentenced for life. The amount of women on social media who called him “my crush” was just crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:49 PM
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💯
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:48 PM
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Exactly. It’s not like all men treat women poorly, it’s men they have sex with treat them poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:48 PM
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Bro idk what are you debating here, it was very much obvious that this is a form of “punishment”. Sadly they will punish only themselves, and men would get better dating pool :D
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:46 PM
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Respect until you do not 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:34 PM
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Do what suits best for you. Live in your own reality. I try to live in the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:30 PM
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Well I can’t help I guess I will just accept that you have your own reality I’m which women don’t hate on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:25 PM
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You don’t understand that it is exactly how women talk about men. They don’t say “I’ve met….” They say “men are useless shit”. And you’re advocating for it 😂🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:20 PM
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You’re delusional thinking that ppl would respect a man who says “all women are sluts” Well to this point I can’t argue anymore, I cannot argue if you act in bad faith, you talk nonsense just to prove your point, and on my argument you just talk 3 more nonsenses. I couldn’t possibly have time for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:15 PM
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So good men are not upset with women choices but I bet you would advocate for those who left their bfs over a trump vote lol. No it is not rational. As I said, 99% of women met a good men in their life. They may be not their partners but that doesn’t matter. Fathers/brothers/friends’ boyfriends/classmates/coworkers/etc. plenty of good men out here. Probability that you find a good man in the forest is more likely, than a bear leaving you alone. It is objective truth. There’s no her truth and my …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:51 PM
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In no fucking way choosing a bear is choosing better. Only if 99% of men were rapists and abusers etc. which is not true obviously. If you do not realise that, I’m sorry for you and for these women. The whole thing was just an exaggeration to say “men are shit” in a different form, and you actually are defending it. You have no clue what a bear is going to do with you. Most women and men too aren’t capable of differentiating bears, for example white ones are the most violent and will try to kill…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:34 PM
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Lol by choosing bear she blames men, she rejects responsibility. You thought you made a gotcha but it’s not. I said she needs to pick better, not to throw away idea of relationships overall. This also applies to men btw, many redpillers and other people give up on dating altogether, I disagree with that. Yes, if 90% of dating pool would be trash people I would say it isn’t worth it, but I want to believe we are in a better place today.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:20 PM
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Kids are not responsible for themselves, they are not adults so it isn’t relevant. I don’t blame victim for being a victim. I blame those victims who refuse to do self analysis and be more responsible. Like in my analogy. If you are robbed at a certain place and you don’t give a shit about it and continue to walk there and get robbed, you are stupid. It does not excuse the robber in any case, it just tells that you are stupid. There are good men, there are bad men, women are to choose. If some m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 01:03 PM
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So 3v1 is 50/45? 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 12:55 PM
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Oh the delusion. The number of women who use men and blame men for everything sadly is overwhelming.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 12:54 PM
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You did not argue my point you made your own point but that’s ok. Let’s make an analogy. If you go to a dangerous district in your city in which there are people of certain race and they live here. So you walk through this district and you get robbed by a people of X race. Not only you step on the same rake. But by your logic you need to blame these people of X race. Try to do it. You will be cancelled instantly. But somehow if it is men then it’s ok to blame us. You know, in every group of peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 12:51 PM
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💯 My former head of department which happened to be female once said: in our country it is achievement for a woman to buy an apartment. I corrected her that it is an achievement no matter man you are or a woman. She claimed to be feminist. Also she used her body to get to her position. Idk what is in heads of these people sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 12:42 PM
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Is it equal though? The hypocrisy I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:51 AM
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Stupid point. Women encounter men on a daily basis. Probability that someone who you meet every day will hurt you is infinitely higher than a bear which 90% of women never saw. It does not mean that men are more aggressive than bears. Also, extrapolating your own experience on the whole population of men is stupid too. You know they say between all romantic relationships of a particular human the only common denominator is this particular human. If some women constantly get hurt by men who they …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:50 AM
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I don’t understand why choose a bear, honestly. The only one that comes to my mind is man-hating. And that is exactly misandry, which you call “their experience”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:27 AM
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I don’t see a way how choosing a bear is about yourself and your safety lol You say it was not about men, it was men who made it about themselves, but you are wrong. The whole thing was about “look how bad men are, that women would choose a wild bear over a man”.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:24 AM
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Exactly, they get ran over thinking 10/10 chad would marry her, and then all average men pay for this shit. And then they say bc does not matter 😂👌
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:21 AM
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Ye man-hating is called “choosing yourself” nowadays. Wow. Like nobody says men are useless, we don’t need no man, men are shit… It’s all about choosing herself :D
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:19 AM
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You said it applies “equally”. How come?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:17 AM
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Elaborate
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:02 AM
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So it always comes down to… YOU KNOW BUT MEN
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:00 AM
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Well conscription only doesn’t make sense until it does you know. It doesn’t make sense to be a subject of the draft and have no privileges in exchange
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 07:53 PM
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I don’t say you should get less than equal. I say it is unfair to have everything equal AND men get drafted by force at the same time. You either have conscription of men and you don’t have equal rights, or you have equal rights and both sexes are conscripted/nobody
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 07:35 PM
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Alright you just don’t get it. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 05:30 AM
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Why they do it it is not valid. It is a matter of fact that men fight while women evacuate. And yeah, some men fight literally to protect their families. Women somehow will do anything nowadays to belittle those who fight with firearm in their hands to protect the country. In America I guess they also own men right? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 05:23 AM
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I don’t see your argument. You say men don’t defend women at war or what? This was original discussion. I don’t see how women getting raped is relevant to this topic. Yes women get raped during war and it is sad. Still, men get killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 05:18 AM
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Look bro it’s not like a small man like me can change something. I am from Russia and happily I left it. But people who I know were killed in battle. Because they are men. While women sit on a warm couch at home or at an office job. And somehow people say that men do not protect nor provide. It sickens me. I would repeat myself that moral side is another topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 05:05 AM
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Morality of Russia’s invasion is another topic I guess. You know it’s great women in Ukraine have their positions, I guess in Russia there are also women like 0,5% or something. It just doesn’t counter what I said. Men are conscripted by force. Women have choice. Look at how much Ukrainian women are rn on tinder in Europe. And men are dying, that’s sad. Somehow, during peacetime they had equal rights(men still served in military).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 04:49 AM
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You say obvious things. Reality is that only women can get pregnant therefore for some amount of time they gonna be out of workplace yup? Who provides for this amount of time which can be 1-5 years? But nvm, I don’t even know what country you are talking about. I live in a pretty conservative country where women expect men to earn more and provide, meanwhile they have the same rights if not more, because they don’t get drafted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 06:30 PM
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It is because men are raised to wish to be provider. And sometimes there’s nothing wrong with that you know every family is happy in its own way and unhappy in a similar way. The problem is women want both equal rights and men to be providers which is kinda contradictive don’t you think
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 05:43 PM
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Say this to Russians and Ukrainians
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 03:03 PM
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It goes both ways. Many women see men as a provider defender kind of a figure who would take most of her responsibilities and let her just be happy. Is it dehumanising? I guess so
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 10:50 AM
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You are right but there’s something to add. They are not wrong when they say he’s alone because of personality. It is that they understand that he cannot get relationships because he lacks 3 qualities you mentioned so the only way for him is personality. And let’s be fair some not very attractive men who are not millionaires and not presidents still get girls because of “the rizz”. I see them in the streets where a guy who’s a 5 is with a girl who’s an 7-8. Btw you should not focus on those thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:49 PM
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Or it can be that happier men are married. Your sentence structure is biased. Prove it. I have no problem with that fact. You just said that the other statement doesn’t make any sense, I showed you that it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 08:50 AM
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It is common sense that between 2 men if anything is equal besides success(status, money, etc) a woman will most likely the more successful one. I do not need to prove this. As men would pick one who’s more beautiful. And ye this cannot be measured I think. You as I suppose are making conclusion that marriage improves quality of men’s lives. But this statistics lead to no conclusion at all. It is just a fact. To make a conclusion we need to measure level of happiness/success/money/expected lifet…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 09:45 AM
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Prove your original point first. I do not see a need to prove that women choose more successful men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 09:16 AM
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It actually does, women choose happier and more successful men. This is why married men live longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:10 AM
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Bro asking are you cold/hot is actually based. Nothing wrong with it. But it could be better if you could understand that without asking. But again nothing wrong. The girls’ point as far as I understand it is if you do it without asking that means you understand her on more deep level and you are caring and you are more focused on details idk. It is no hard thing to ask if she wants something and do it then. But to understand what she wants without asking is what makes them fall for us. It is 1.…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:23 PM
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Yeah and they want you to be “masculine” as they view it. And asking let’s kiss or would you like to kiss is the opposite of that
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 02:41 PM
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Bro they want to feel kinda that you got what you wanted. Like most girls actually want to be responsive. You do what you want and if she is grossed or offended hopefully she will let you understand. As long as she’s not saying no or pushing you back you push your way to what you want. They see it as a sexy thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 02:00 PM
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Yeah like one date is 50-100$ and there’s no guarantee you will get laid. So you can easily spend thousands of dollars and get no result. But look more deep into what you have said. Not doing dishes or in most cases not doing something enough(it can be easily made up lol) translates into resentment which causes lack of sex. I think this is really how it is but it is so stupid. How about you have sex and then couple hours after ask your hb to be more responsible on his part of housework etc. Sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:55 PM
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Correlation equals not causation, what he talks about is that married men live longer are happier and earn more. It could be that women are just picking healthier wealthier overall happier men to be married to. But what he says is lsi true that a good marriage helps men to feel more connected etc. but honestly idk what woman would marry a man who is socially awkward or smth. Anyways I think that nowadays women tend to wait for the winners at the finish line and not to run with them and help to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:40 PM
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I think the whole point of men being egoistic/individualistic outside is to provide more for the family. So it’s like a double edged sword. Or 2 sides of a coin. It is not purely egoistical because it is that way for your family’s wellbeing. I go off top because you use some words to make your viewpoint seen as more valid. You say “man’s” child. I say it’s more “woman’s”. Ideally it’s parents’. Ofc I have a bad opinion about male pickmes(simps). Economy needs kids to be born to be growing(look a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:06 PM
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Like holy fuck I typed a ton of text and it disappeared
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:59 PM
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I bet there are plenty of average men who would satisfy you in many ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:18 PM
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So how can a man make your life better?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:42 PM
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Stop womansplaining. It is natural to compete against other women for better spouse. Men do the same thing. Not making marriage and having babies a priority is what causes below replacement birth rate. Kids are 100% mother’s and not 100% father’s. 1/3 of dna tests for men are negative. In court kids are given to mother not the father. It’s your babies more than “man’s” Women relying on a community is actually telling on why you earn less. And it’s not 21st century feature, it has always been lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:24 PM
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Your last two paragraphs. Reread it and my comment. You say it is men who are hyper individualistic. But it is not like this. A man wants to have a strong bond with his woman. In the meantime women are the ones who are constantly talking we don’t need no man etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:17 AM
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Lol you’re talking like women have advantage by “decentering men” then you say you aren’t fed up with individualism bs. What kind of nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:45 AM
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Custody here is not 50/50. Maybe in the US, but not here. If you and your exwife have equal living conditions(income, square meters etc) and both fight for kids, court in most cases would choose a mother. Mother needs to have slightly poorer conditions and living asocial life for court to choose a father. Alimony is not like 2 years thing. I say it as I work in a law company where we help ppl with different cases including divorces. Average alimony lasts for 10 years from my experience. In some …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:48 PM
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If you do 67% of income he does 67% of chores that includes childcare, it is fair. Not every time, but often, when someone makes more money that work harder so they get exhausted more. My uncle for example works everyday for 12-14 hours at his business. So he makes 4-5x of what the aunt makes. And the aunt works basic 8 hours 5/2. In my opinion the uncle deserves not to do chores at home. Even though he cleans the floor and cooks sometimes. If you and your partner work same amount of time and yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 12:57 PM
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Be fair and do not generalise. Some men value housework some don’t. Just as some women appreciate money her husband brings and some take it for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 11:31 AM
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I guess yeah, a man who fought war, who seen his brothers die in ditches right in front of him, who barely survived, I guess yeah, he deserves not to do anything around the house excluding “men’s chores”. I’m from Russia and I guess you’re from the west. So this is something you can call my trauma. Or drama. Whatever. How men get appreciated for what they do as men(fight wars/protect the country for women to sit safely at home)? I guess at least his woman shows him respect and gratitude on form …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 07:21 PM
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You make my views up out of nothing. I never said I don’t appreciate housework, but in your opinion of course I do not. That’s all that needs to be said. And you talk to me, not to some mythical group of men that you imagine in your head
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 06:24 PM
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lol you don’t stop putting words in my mouth. Don’t have nor time neither desire to answer you. We talked about specific things but you keep attacking me as a person (typical strategy for you though) countering things I never said. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:59 PM
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Lol money is needed to court your woman, to bring her flowers, to buy gifts etc, why do you pretend money is only for the kids omg. My uncle is making 4x of what my aunt does, and works more hours a week. And I’ve been told here that it doesn’t matter and the uncle should do 50% at home lol. Do you agree with this? About single moms. Yeah, leave your husband because he’s just “another child”. No stats do exist about how single households do worse in every metrics of life lol. Not to say that you…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:51 AM
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I did not say women care only about money, but no woman fucks homeless men. Money needs not only for kids to eat, stop talking shit lol. Every woman that wants a family and kids someday is going to be dependent on her man, so she considers is he capable of providing or not. And there’s nothing wrong about it, it is rational. The dichotomy here was about what men loves women for and vice versa. Men love for looks, women love for looks + money. Nothing was said about house chore etc. Many women to…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:24 PM
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Lol you mistook my point. I totally understand women having preference to date men who are financially stable. And I totally understand men having preference to date pretty women. And as I said looks matter the most only in picking phase, not throughout entire relationship. As the time goes by looks matter less and less. But money matters all the time, because you need it all the time. Not like women are draining resources out of men, a family needs this recourses constantly. And as the time goe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:56 PM
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It is not precisely about fertility, it is about looks. A woman can be attractive at 35 and even 45. Also, the longer the marriage lasts, the less valuable looks become. Anyway you want to be attracted to your woman, but u don’t need her to be the best, really. I do not condone broke men. But. There is objective worsening of living standards throughout the world. In my country mortgage rate is at 20% lol. Covid, Ukrainian war etc. As I said, the longer you are with a woman, the lesser you need h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:56 AM
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Ye you’re right. Men will not date unattractive girls unless men are desperate. But there are not many girls who are ugly, to be honest. 80% of women are at least average in terms of looks. On the other hand, there are more men who are broke/financially unstable than ugly girls. Also, beauty is what you can define as indefeasible character quality. Money is not like this. Money is just a recourse that can be acquired and can be taken away. On the third hand ugly men can attract women with money …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 06:22 AM
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Give some more details about % thing plz. I bet women were the first to complain about cheating. Even now(I live in Russia and Kazakhstan), it is social acceptable for women to tell they want money from a man. And I’m like okay it’s fair, you want to give birth so you want to feel secure in terms of recourses. Sad part is that sometimes you think that without money nobody will love you just for who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 06:01 AM
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Not sure where the info about 60% comes from. In this case women shouldn’t cry about cheating, as it’s biology
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:53 AM
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Some cry some not. Men want beauty, women want provider ability + beauty (to a less degree than men want)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:47 AM
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I literally said that being strong and capable of violence decreases your chances to be hurt = you’re more safe. I did not say anything about attraction level. However, for men being strong makes some sense if you want to attract more girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 05:45 PM
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You didn’t get it sis
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 05:09 PM
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In your first comment you said there are more circumstances under which women can feel not safe. Yeah this is a problem. But approach can vary, we can teach them how not to be scared when you shouldn’t, or we make society less aggressive towards women. But nowadays society is fr the most safe for women, especially the western ones. So I think the core problem here is - we as a society care for women’s lives much more than for men’s lives. So we get situations when objectively women are more safe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:34 PM
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How approaching a girl u liked is immoral nowadays? Also, idk how it works with women, but for men when you want to pee, it takes physical effort not to do so due to any circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:47 PM
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In case when you actually want to talk to a girl, let’s say you caught romantic feelings, it actually takes mental effort not to do that. In case with manspreading it actually takes physical effort not to do so. One way or another, you behave not how you personally would like to(and your hypothetical behavior is nothing criminal), but how women want you to behave in order for them to feel safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:34 PM
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Bro you’re the best
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 08:10 AM
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Throughout my life had 2 situations where like in the evening me and some woman are waiting for the lift. Then the lift comes and woman jumps into it straight away, clicks the button and the doors are closed. And I’m standing here like wtf, I’m a man in my 20s did nothing wrong didn’t stare/touch/assault. But for those women to feel safe I needed to wait another couple of minutes for lift. Then my gf explained to me that most likely these women have some trauma regarding lifts or men in general,…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 08:09 AM
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Women just are not in to discussion. It always ends up in “lol now I understand why girls reject you”, “lol you are inferior haha”, etc etc. Pitiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:42 AM
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Yeah like there’s absolutely no one expecting men not to stare, not to give “creepy” compliments, not to initiate any contact, things about personal space are getting absurd too sometimes. No one expects man not to “manspread” etc etc. Somehow when women need more public toilet seats that is justified by biology, but men spreading his legs in public transport is not justified like we have nothing between our legs 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:32 AM
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You do not need to feel/be safe to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:50 AM
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You say it like man’s looks doesn’t matter or matter less than character lol. It works both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:42 AM
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Life is unfair. Being a good person does not make you safe, being strong and capable of violence does. Just like there are some men who cannot find a partner, there are women who are not strong enough to defend themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:34 AM
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Smh guy getting provoked to violence is not an assault, but stares at the gym are. Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:31 AM
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Lol u are joking rn. Men are literally committing more suicides, men are getting robbed/killed/everything else besides rape more often than women. Here in Russia there’s even a stat that says that more men are killed in domestic violence cases. Like women are hit more often, but men are killed more often. So no, world is actually more dangerous for men, not women. The one and only exception is sexual assault. Due to some men not having capability to control their primal instincts. In Russia ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:23 AM
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Yo bro it’s like 50/50. Me personally, I like giving it but I don’t really like how some pussies smell/taste. Idk and there was never a problem in hygiene, some girls are just not tasty. It’s like when u kiss someone and you can tell, is it tasteful or not. Also I really don’t like giving to girls who are hairy down there. So yeah, as well as some men are not really into it, some are like me - need some requirements to be met to give.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 05:02 AM
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This shit happens nearly to all of us bro, even chads ahaha. What’s good is we learn by mistakes. The most tragic case I know btw is girl choosing desperate man(my colleague), they marry and make baby in one year, but she ends up leaving him. I suppose she was never attracted to him in the first place. If the guy had standards and could sense she’s not attracted, his life wouldn’t be such mess at 22. But even now this guy tells his exwife “I will forgive you if you return to me”. While she is sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 06:31 PM
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Women are already good in rejecting men who they feel like they are their only option. Men are behaving very stupid in these scenarios, so women sense it and the interest is gone forever. Problem we should address is not the women being more careful - they naturally are. We should teach guys how not to be desperate, how to have standards for relationships and not taking “anything”, even if you don’t get much female attention. If those guys would have standards, women would be fine taking them, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 06:16 PM
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I totally get your point. But do you see what you say? It’s like you don’t see a forest behind the trees. You say like women shouldn’t show interest towards men who already get 0 female attention, and instead show more interest towards attractive men who already gets it a lot. I would say no matter who you choose as a partner, 100% on a planet there would be at least one human who fits you better. So your point isn’t that good now. Yes men who have 0 female attention would probably take anything…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 05:42 PM
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As far as I know unattractive men who get approached by women nearly 0 times a year would take any chance to be with a woman. So nope, chance of getting used is, of course, higher when a woman plays out of her league.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 05:28 PM
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This was not the point. Ofc we all make mistakes due to being humans. You said that a woman is “good” for “getting pumped and dumped by chads” cause this means she has “high standards”. So what is high standards in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 05:17 PM
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I’m not a bot I’m not understanding you point. I can assume that a woman who was pumped and dumped, like, twice, and then stopped it can be good smart woman. But a woman who was “promiscuous” with chads trying to lock them down with sex, I just don’t see a way she has any standards. Explain it to me, instead of being rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 05:13 PM
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Wanting the best for yourself is not having high standards. You are rn with serious face talking that a woman who is getting pumped and dumped by chads has standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 05:03 PM
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What is good about this woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 04:56 PM
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Why a woman would be promiscuous with chads?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 04:52 PM
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Bro you really consider yourself red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 04:48 PM
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Bro you are superbased. Family is not about the feelings, it is about cooperative existence, caring and support, which leads to prosperity. But I think feelings plays huge part in relationship dynamic. The purpose of every human is to be happy. And, I guess, you can’t be happy living with a woman who you do not love. And I get when you talk about feelings you mean something temporal, but there are «constant» feelings that you do not need to chase, it just exists once you establish it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 04:46 PM
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Bro what are u talking about. What dangers of showing interest towards unattractive men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 04:35 PM
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You said what you said under the comment in which I talk about u not matching her past. Then you say be chaddest version of yourself. It’s logical to assume that you mean “be chaddest so your woman don’t leave you”. Anyways there are some limits in terms of looksmaxing, like genetical lottery, some diseases etc. I wouldn’t recommend to date girls who were promiscuous at all. Especially those who fucked chads. Best case here is to date girl who fucked men who matched her looks. This means ok, she…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 04:25 PM
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There definitely are limits to it. Also thought of getting better so your girl wouldn’t cheat on you is a massive L from the start. You should be getting better because you want it, not because of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 04:18 PM
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Her standard might be caring, dedicated, man who looks in the future and has some plans. And it can be ugly men. Standards can be different, you need to figure out what it was. Of course if she fucked around a lot it makes little sense to question whom she fucked with. Problem with fucking chads in past means she’s likely “settling” with you. And you don’t match her past men. However, if she fucked “ugly” men means she’s maxing out her potential with you, which can lead to stable and respectful …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 01:43 PM
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Yeah but if you are not “chad” then you don’t match her past men. It can cause huge problems in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 01:34 PM
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Ah then these women complain about “women’s logic” thing. You try to discuss something, and instead of arguing they use ad hominem “argument”. And then they feel like they won the debate. Get lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 08:05 PM
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I would say that yes, attractive redpillers don’t complain, cause they have no problems with women. Those who complain are probably not that attractive. But this is an assumption. We can say something similar to feminists. Like they are lonely hurted miserable ugly women. I bet u wouldn’t like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:33 PM
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You don’t realise you can be red pill even when you swim in women’s attention? It’s those very attractive guys who understand rp much faster than average guys. I personally know one very attractive guy who gets a ton of women’s attention and he’s saying smth like “all women are sluts”. Because women give it up to him easily. Is he red pill? I guess so. Try to get out of your classic female argument “those who complain are losers and incels, a true man can’t be redpiller LOL” and try to be open m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:31 PM
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You’re right bro but. Very attractive guys surely are in high demand. But beautiful ladies even though there’s much more of them, are more in demand. How come? A huge portion of very attractive ladies “date” only very attractive guys. And huge portion of regular men end up in desperate situation. Because below average/average/attractive/very attractive ladies always can find a partner even from top tier men(see hypergamy - men date down). So we have situation in which even though highly attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:19 PM
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There’s no stats and idk many redpillers irl, some are attractive, some aren’t. Or you just talking shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 12:25 PM
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Any proof or another woman’s bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 12:22 PM
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What
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 08:36 AM
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What stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 05:06 AM
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Men aren’t attractive in women’s eyes, generally speaking
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:59 AM
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Like women saying they are 10/10 haha
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:58 AM
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5’8 is short haha. Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:57 AM
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Get lost
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 03:46 AM
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Yeah at some point of my life I was desperate. To be honest. But now I have my gf who I’m happily with. And had a few not so serious relationships too. But I totally understand those guys who suffer. Cause men get 95% less attention from women then women get from men. Men with money always had and will have options. Is it good though? Also idk what contingent of people goes to bars and nightclubs. I didn’t really researched it. But I tend to think that bars and nightclubs are the places for men …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:51 PM
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Yeah it’s like I’m a man but you think you know better whether we are desperate and lack women’s attention or not. Honestly there’s no point to continue, a woman who makes money out of men’s loneliness says men have preferences etc. not understanding that you can have preference only when you have a choice. 30% of guys who had no sex past year probably doesn’t have a choice/preference. Ofc they wouldn’t bang with 200kg “chick”, but anyway… Too difficult for you to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:05 PM
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You rly don’t get it, you think bar ok order to make money out of men needs to hire all the spectrum of women. Not like this. They hire 2-3 yes maybe different maybe not different but really hot women. And yes they play with our loneliness and desperation. As I said you don’t see I world like me. I know a bunch of dudes from my school, from my work, I see them in the streets. I know for a fact that they get 0 women attention. And it is not their choice. And they are the majority. You know that 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:23 PM
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You’re joking right now? Don’t you see a contradiction in what you say? “Men are pickier than you think”. Then you say that there are positions for girls to make men laugh and spend money on drinks. Reread yourself lady, horrible point. Or you don’t get why men spend money with girls that make them laugh?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:17 PM
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It is stupid to approach literally all men. Unless you’re doing research
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:03 PM
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I have a logical answer to this. You approach top 30-20% of men. It’s those men who have standards. Because they have standards they actually have preferences and can say no. Regular guy who is getting close to 0 women’s attention would never say no to you lol. You just don’t see it like us. It is true when some say that regular guys are invisible for women. Even rn you’re talking about men having preferences not realising that you’re talking only about top tier. Ask literally random men outside…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:55 PM
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Yeah missed that you’re a woman actually. Even though maybe u think u don’t get approached often, 70% of men don’t get approached even once in a lifetime. And the fact that you’re not approached doesn’t mean that men don’t like you. There is such thing when men find that girl is very attractive they don’t try, cause they don’t want to compete with all the other men. And yea, everything that I said is how it works in practice. Prove me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:40 PM
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Bro majority of men are finding majority of women as attractive. And women are attracted only to 20% of men. Why do you keep saying “not everyone is attracted everyone”?? It’s more like “majority of women is not attracted to you(regular men)”. And when you play this game, you accept their terms. You accept that they are the customers, and you are a product that needs to be sold. And the market is overflooded with products like you. And the customers are in demand. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 05:58 PM
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Tradition also says that women should earn less because they are not so work-oriented and employer takes risk of a woman getting pregnant at some point. So why is there draft for men but in the same time there is no-paygap legislation? As I said, men are traditional, women are not. Actually some women are traditional but it is their choice to be traditional. And men are forced to be traditional literally by law. Just total hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:14 AM
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I’m actually a man ahaha. Called you a sister cause I feel empathetic towards you since you understand men’s problems :D.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:09 AM
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It’s not cringe it was evolution who made us like this. How evolution can be cringe? And violence =\= anger. Perfect example is police. They need to be capable of violence so citizens would obey.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 05:03 PM
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Why is it being emotional? I don’t see.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 05:01 PM
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It’s woman’s point of view. We are different by nature. Men’s world is all about violence do you like it or not. In example I would say that when 2 men meet each other they compare themselves like who’s more strong. It happens unconsciously. Also when you need people to hear you or to obey(especially other men) you need not exactly to be violent but you need to project that you’re capable of being violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 04:58 PM
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Ok if that’s your point then ok. By the way you portray it like only unlogical men would hurt other men, it is obviously not like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 04:51 PM
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I’m not butthurt at all, I’m just laughing at your point. And you now realise that u have nothing to say so you try to expose me like I’m emotional or hurt lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 04:46 PM
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Prove your points: 1. Men are not logical 2. Me being emotional
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 04:41 PM
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Men are just not logical. Said by a woman. Ahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 03:13 PM
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Yeah it is so stupid to say that only men who are unattractive opt out of a dating market, like women(modern ahahaha) are so so so so so so valuable that men will always date when they have the chance. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 03:06 PM
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Sister there’s nothing to debate here. Most women are hypocrites. They want special treatment when it suits them, and when it doesn’t they do not. Let me give you an example. I lived in Russia, now I live in Kazakhstan (don’t wanna die in Putin’s war). In both countries the constitution prohibits gender discrimination. But in both countries only men are drafted to the army. And in both countries when a divorce happens kids stay with mom like 85%. Even when father objectively has better life cond…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 02:59 PM
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Basic woman’s strategy - shame men for not interacting with women ahahaha. You’re so original. By the way I live with one woman and it is not my mother, and I work in a place where it is like 20 other young women in my department. But of course in your mind somebody who says what I say is a lonely miserable ugly incel :). You can’t accept reality that normal men say those things. And you were first to bring ad hominem argument into the conversation. How smart of you, woman. Now, get lost bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 07:58 AM
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They either lie or you’re deluded. Or if you’re hairy it can be that you unconsciously choose partners who don’t care or those who care don’t choose you so you just don’t know. Men in general do care about hairy stuff. Especially armpits. 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 07:05 PM
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Most men have preference for women being shaved. While women actually do not have this same standard. Some of them like men’s hair and some don’t. About what gender equality you’re talking right now? It is preference-based situation. And no matter how feminists try men in general wouldn’t like hairy women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 11:11 AM
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Problem is that both women and men suffer nowadays. 50% of women by the age of 30 soon goona be childless and single. It is not one sided problem. Human needs another human this is base. And yes women should at least at some point of life learn how to support husband cause if you’re going to give birth you 99% will be dependent on your man to some degree. And you absolutely missed my point about standards. Key was that women create standards for average men and not for chads. I’ve seen this irl …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 11:08 AM
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Because of women don’t lower their “standard” they end up single childless etc etc. if you don’t want family and kids it’s fine but I consider it as irresponsible behaviour too. But if you want kids and family it’s absolutely delusional to have “standards” women have nowadays. Not all the responsibility is on men you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:09 AM
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Your point gets destroyed by the fact that situation you described was always the same. Women were always in demand. But there was a time when there was no farts in a jars and no only fans. Ofc there were prostitutes earlier but this is not problem at all. Earlier women had morals, had actual standards. You describe situation like women just up their price because of high demand. It is not like this. They up their price for average men but for gigachads it’s always come over let’s “chill”. Dude …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 03:35 AM
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Idealistic view. Sadly, other decisions impact us. Like women deciding not to date 5/10 guy literally leaves him no hope. It’s not like he can pursue what he wants because what he wants doesn’t want him back :)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 02:51 AM
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First. There’s not many girls like 3 and 4. Second. Damage and embarrassment of being rejected is significantly higher impact than “being approached by 3 and 4”. Also men who are like 3 and 4 don’t approach often so don’t exaggerate. Men being rejected happens 10 times higher and is 10 if not 100 times more embarrassing than being approached by somebody you don’t like. In most cases men try to play out of their league only a couple of times throughout life. Then it becomes painful. And men lower…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 06:22 AM
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Happy for you. You have healthy mindset, not like most women nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/24 01:49 PM
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Don’t wanna be rude but do you keep virginity for marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 08:03 PM
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It is not
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 05:05 PM
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Every need is subjective, even need to survive. Sorry for you 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 04:46 PM
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You can’t accept reality. There are many many ppl including scientists who understands that sex is a biological/physiological/psychological need, not a want. And you are so so so smart to refuse that sex has very important role in developing as a character as a socialised person. And health. If you can’t realise those simple things I can’t help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 04:31 PM
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Giiiiiiirl get lost. You can’t get even that? Simple as fuck bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 04:22 PM
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Girl I’m tired of explaining you the basics. You refuse to accept the truth what can I do? You refuse to accept the fact that desire to have sex is in our nature as it is evolutionary mechanism so it is need only from this perspective. You’re deluded and just defending women who say society better not exist then exist without feminism. You are cringe in and of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 04:18 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/5wm3h5jyl3rc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6281ce132c35d9dc17e7fde138e74bf5219c8632 Get lost
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 04:04 PM
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Responsibility is not all about commiting crimes. If you don’t get it then ok, don’t continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 03:38 PM
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When you’re dating someone and you have romantic relationships you should expect to have sex some day. Is it that awkward?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 03:29 PM
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And we should fight for more responsible women’s behaviour. More realistic standards when it comes to dating/marriage. And supporting those guys who are sexless due to current situation/their attractiveness level.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 03:25 PM
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Are you a psychiatrist by any chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 03:17 PM
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Ask feminists what they fight for
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 03:14 PM
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So men being attracted to 19yo girl is justified because men don’t choose their attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 12:34 PM
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And yeah there’s a reason for 2/3 more cancer for sexless men. Also want to mention that we don’t know exactly, if we had short lifespan due to lack of healthcare or we hadn’t healthcare due to short lifespan
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 10:55 AM
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And I gave you an example of getting cancer exactly because of lack of sex. Those 2/3 got cancer not only because of it, but deciding factor was lack of sex. Also not having healthcare doesn’t guarantee you’re gonna die from gunshot. And it doesn’t guarantee you get injured. People lived without healthcare somehow. And we can’t say that about sex :D
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 09:51 AM
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Enlighten me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 09:47 AM
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Not having healthcare doesn’t mean you’re gonna die due to disease.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 09:46 AM
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Having cancer means huge risks getting dead soon. So yeah. Read your comments. And go to sleep, you need some.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 09:43 AM
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Gotcha bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 09:40 AM
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Okay without sex you’re significantly more likely to die because of cancer. Isn’t it significant? Doesn’t it make it need to be healthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 09:38 AM
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Clean air isn’t that kind of thing yes? Like what other benefit it does to you other that not hurting your health?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 09:30 AM
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Oh wait what? You talk about cancer? Look lady https://preview.redd.it/5l5dw1msm1rc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49b0ce85a3e8fa2499cad79144e40e08f755777d
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 09:25 AM
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Healthcare is also a need? Omg bro, and sex is not literally part of someone being healthy? You’re joking?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 09:20 AM
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If I ask it doesn’t mean I don’t have an answer. I want to see how contradicting you will be again
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 09:19 AM
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You’re sophisticating right now. Nothing else. Explain me now how clothing is a need and sex is not lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 09:15 AM
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Okay so nobody’s opinion is reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 09:12 AM
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Dig yourself a cave using your fingers. Also watch the screen :D It’s Canadian university. Why are u refusing to accept reality? https://preview.redd.it/pqg5xy19k1rc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dfa547b94318f9d43c7b6a89145b1cb5f6690fd1
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 09:10 AM
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You can literally make yourself a shelter with your arms, so no, money is not needed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 09:08 AM
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U can be homeless and survive, why then money is a “need”??? You are contradicting yourself. And who decides now what is an absolute need? From another’s person point they would say reproduction is an absolute need. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 09:05 AM
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Now let’s go back. If we assume that sex is a biological need. And needs are more important than even rights. (Try to argue) Then try now to justify feminists pressing 2nd button and why out gay should not press it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 09:03 AM
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So you literally contradicted yourself here. You said money is a need because you need it to survive. But you say “the fact that you have to do something in order to do something else doesn’t make it a need” lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 08:56 AM
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No it is not, because you can be homeless and eat from trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 08:54 AM
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Okay nothing is something in and of itself. If you want to be mental stable, you want to have great health, you want to get emotional support. And all of this 99% of ppl want. Then you NEED sex. So it is need from a biological point. Under the context of that you want to be healthy socialised guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 08:53 AM
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Btw https://preview.redd.it/4ce9ujetc1rc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f702c4ea2d82336507457d2f2d865684c812a6cd
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 08:29 AM
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Okay let’s go back to the original question. Is getting money in todays society a “need”?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 08:28 AM
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Bruh I don’t get it. Morality can be different in different societies, as legality too. Does it mean basic rights needs to be different?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 08:18 AM
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So what is right and what is not decides government?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 08:17 AM
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I didn’t say sex should be a right. I asked what makes right a right you answered legality and morality I said okay sex is moral and legal what’s the difference then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 08:15 AM
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Sex is immoral and illegal?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 08:01 AM
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Sadly ppp start to realise smth only when they experience it. Like we can’t say for most ppl they are grown responsible adults when they live with parents. Same here. Privilege is invisible to the privileged. Ppl think he’s just bitter but he’s a victim of injustice. He tries to speak about the problem but society laughed at him. Nobody feel empathy for these kinds of men. Todays bias is: 1) men should not whine 2) men just need to be better so they fit into women’s standards in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 07:05 AM
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In order for you to truly understand someone you need to share their pain. So this guy thinks that world should suffer as he does, so world would finally recognise him. From his pov very valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 06:51 AM
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Sad for you. What makes right a right? What defines it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 06:42 AM
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Right can also be seen as something beneficial, what makes it “right”?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 06:00 AM
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Okay you just can’t accept that sex is biological need even though there are so many studies about that how beneficial sex is to our health and mental health, and how not having it causes you to feel defective, imperfect, so on. You just can’t imagine life of a man who constantly recognizes that he is defective that literally no one wants to have sex with him/love him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 05:53 AM
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Sex is basic human NEED, not right. IMO need is more important than right. It’s like drink of water when you’re in desert. And women in order to defend their rights can fight with men govt etc. To legislate their rights. And what can our man do? Who he must fight to fulfil his basic need? If he’s so unattractive that no woman chooses him. What he can do?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 05:44 AM
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Okay. Same logic here. 2 buttons humanity exists with that guy being sexless. Second humanity doesn’t exist. This guy chooses the second and says he’s actively doing smth to achieve it. Tell me the difference now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 05:38 AM
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Bruh there’s 2 buttons. Society exists without rights of women. Second society(humanity) doesn’t exist at all. Feminists say they would pick the second one. Is it okay for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 05:34 AM
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Replace world with society. Don’t play to be fool here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 05:29 AM
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Listen, I don’t agree with him harming other ppl, but I understand how we came to that conclusion. How desperate and lonely these ppl can be and what it makes them feel like. Also question to you. Is it okay for feminists to tell that world shouldn’t exist if there were no rights of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 05:21 AM
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I’m not defending him, I try to understand his pov. And possibly find a solution. Ppl like this exist because of cruel discrimination that exists in our brain, who tells us like ugly ppl don’t deserve love. No like they deserve but from someone else not from me. This is the key problem. How we change that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 04:47 AM
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Not that I agree with you but totally understand bro
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 04:42 AM
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U can’t be commited without marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 04:41 AM
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Legislate their rights, cancel those who unfulfill/cast them aside ofc
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 04:40 AM
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Bro it is not question of who’s evil and who’s not, it is about how we change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 04:39 AM
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Didn’t answer the question. Can we say men don’t choose who they are attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 04:38 AM
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In other words, you want us responsible when it fits you, but when it’s time to submit to your husband you turn on independent and strong bossbabe?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 04:37 AM
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Prostitution is like nothing compared to so called field wives. It is basically when all soldiers f you before the start of the battle to boost their morale.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 08:10 PM
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How much mass shootings we had done by incels? I think it’s at least 5 mb more in USA. And nobody reacts. How is it? It is because society tells hey man, you are a man, and we’re not gonna help you solve your problems, we are busy helping lgbtq+ and women. You are not our priority. Just imagine women doing terror attacks because they were cast aside/unfulfilled/their rights were violated. We already would’ve been doing something to help them. But not the men. It is another big problem but man I …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 08:05 PM
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Some guys who are don’t intend to harm anyone are just sane, their loneliness doesn’t affect them as much as other guys. Many many guys are escaping from reality - video games, anime, and so on. Nowadays world is good at distracting people so it distracts men from their loneliness, but this doesn’t solve the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:58 PM
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Ye you’re probably right about chicken/egg thing. Idk women are totally fine saying world should die if it would be without rights of women and nobody say hey it’s wrong. And in case of these kinds of guys we should realise that it is due to their deep unhappiness they think that way. It’s like just imagine billions of dudes before you have reproduced and you can’t. You can’t get the basic of what a human need - another human around. Romantic relationship, sex etc. This leads to loneliness. Lone…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:56 PM
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Honestly idk man. What I call for is compassion. Yes dude wants us to die due to him being unhappy. But he didn’t make himself like that. He didn’t choose to be ugly or bald or too short whatever. And now the man’s facing superficial women’s standards in dating. Obviously we can’t provide him one catwife from communist party of China for being good citizen. But we I think need to step up as a society and finally recognise this problem of sexually unwanted men. Because govt don’t take it seriousl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:14 PM
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Not necessarily. Their ego sadly is more important for them. They rather die childless and single than settle for an average dude lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:56 PM
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Lady, again, I didn’t say that kissing and holding hands is slutty lol. Maybe kissing would be controversial only if you do that publicly as you said and when you do it… like… idk very very passionate that you make other ppl embarrassed to a degree. I personally don’t like that. I said that real red flag would be having sex too soon. But not for all the guys, some would be okay with that, some actually like that. I’m happy for your passionate relationships you’re in.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:52 PM
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I’m not okay with him killing me and my beloved ones :D I just want you to realise, that society, even for its own safety, needs to integrate these people. A cornered beast has nothing to lose. For a random man to not destroy your house he needs to recognise your rights first, so it is kind of a social contract. With obligations. So yes, that guy needs to owe you respecting your rights in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:48 PM
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If you feel romantic and he reciprocates thats perfectly fine. Bigger red flag would be having sex too soon. Like we guys don’t want it too easy, and don’t want it too hard you know 😁 When I had sex too early with a woman she immediately was put in a “non-serious” category. And I know plenty of guys who thinks the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:30 PM
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Bro why are you talking serious of some random guy talking like he’s destroying planet. Earlier in r/feminism I debated with them about smth not so important but my point was like if we would need to abolish rights of women in order to restore birth rate and survive as a society, as a species, I said that would be ok for me. But in ideal world I said women have their rights but choose to give birth so population grows. And u know what? I got banned. They said like if society needs women to be sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:24 PM
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Maybe I misunderstood you. You portrayed picture of a man approaching sexy woman then they are full of emotions having sex on the other day. If after this you’re with that person for longterm I guess that’s ok. But there’s high probability of it ending like a hookup, which is bad imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:12 PM
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I’m personally happy in my longterm relationship. And had a few hookup stories earlier. So I personally tasted it all but also I’m compassionate to this man cause I knew friend of mine who’s like him. These ppl are hopeless. And all they want is recognition of problems they face. They want compassion and a bit of love. Very basic emotional need of humans. Sadly enough unattractive ppl don’t get anything of that irl most of the times. You might know that attractive ppl get lesser sentences in jai…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:51 PM
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Did I say anything in contradiction? Young lady you’re missing my point which is very basic. Exercising hookup culture for long period of time damages you in terms of creating a family. Am I wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:46 PM
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I didn’t said anything rocket science. Everything in this world has its consequences. Hookups are not the exception. Good for you you are happy. But there is a reason why fuckboys and sluts cannot create a functional family. Nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:28 PM
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Of course he didn’t meant literally everyone to die and suffer. Those who suffer more than him don’t need to suffer. Also I think ppl with some serious diseases also face huge problems in dating, so why would he wish them suffering? He wishes it to those, who don’t understand him, who say it’s your fault blabla loser. And sadly it’s like 85% of ppl
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:26 PM
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It can be like ppl who have degrees are naturally more into marriage cause they to play their future. It can be like degree doesn’t help you at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:23 PM
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It’s like drug addicts completely destroys theirs dopamine systems so that they literally cannot get dopamine other than taking dose. And they just cannot enjoy simple things like normal people. And I don’t think this can be recovered. Same with hookups. If you do it many times, there will be a line, after which you just couldn’t marry someone, cause you always would need someone new to feel that high “chemistry”.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:17 PM
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I would not want my wife to be kind of girl you described. Who gets laid with guy the other day after approaching. That’s gross. Ofc it’s fun in the moment and so on. (And I had some situationships like this when you’re sleeping on second day but again not by cold approaching, by hangout circle.) But there are some longterm repercussions. In my opinion sex shouldn’t be something you have with strangers. It’s intimate. Exercising those practices destroys your view of sex as something sacred. Also…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:13 PM
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Correlation doesn’t mean causation once again
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:56 PM
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And also nuclears are dangerous. And not so efficient as it might seem. Cause a ton of money needs to be put in to safely remove reactor and put new one. Also you need very high quality specialists on nuclear stations. And whole area can be destroyed for 100 years by just simple 🚀
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:55 PM
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Why should he have compassion when nobody has it towards him? And I bet he didn’t choose his career path based on what u try to say here. Invalids, children with inherent diseases, poor people from poor countries all get compassion by default. But if a man is born ugly and isn’t successful with women he gets 0 compassion. Just admit it. Everyone thinks why these men are so angry. It’s because everyone refuses to recognise their problem. Instead people say things like if u try harder u will find …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:53 PM
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And? Degree doesn’t guarantee you finding a good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:48 PM
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What’s the alternatives of oil rn?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:40 PM
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He didn’t say it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:36 PM
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Having degree is pretty much average rn in my opinion. Ofc it accounts for smth, but look accounts much much more
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:32 PM
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Having unreal expectations of future husband and desire to create family/give birth are different things. And these guys are complaining that women don’t date them. It is also different thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:28 PM
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Bro for women average isn’t the option nowadays. Even if you’re like 4-5/10 and have a degree I bet you will find some 30yo woman with kid from chad who now wants a safe ticket to the future. And I’m hers mind she is settling for you :) So is it “help”? If only having a degree could really help you getting gf world would be so much simpler. And I would say that having good job makes more sense than having just a degree. And what’s good in this situation? When you understand that if you didn’t ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:25 PM
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How marriage connects with love?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:18 PM
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Whole concept of approaching women is bullshit. Approaching - putting yourself in weak position. As like you try to sell yourself like look look I’m the man of your dreams. For relationships to have healthy dynamics all should start naturally. Like u know each other through friend/hangout circle and u talk here and there and then you invite her. Cold approaches is so stupid it’s only for pickupers to train their skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:16 PM
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Again what’s your argument? If you’re born with 2/10 looks, not a single degree can help you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:10 PM
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Bro you want to talk about majorities? This guy then is in the 20%. What’s your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:07 PM
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You’re more like I have no preferences lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:05 PM
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Bro you’re like from the moon? Degree means nothing if you’re just not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:59 PM
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He’s disadvantaged in terms of dating obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:50 PM
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He literally wants whole world to suffer so the world would understand his suffering, isn’t it obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:45 PM
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Yes he’s disadvantaged and gets no compassion, only hate. What you expect from a man who is disadvantaged and being laughed at?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:45 PM
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Nothing strange dude if you’re born with like 2/10 looks you go to gym you get max to 4-5/10. Then you get gf who’s like 3-4 at best. What’s good in that? People feel naturally that they have been disadvantaged since they were born. None of it is fair and some cases can’t be solved by being strong and “fixing yourself”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:41 PM
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God said everyone deserves to be loved. Op thinks different
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:38 PM
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No one cares about what would you do
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:35 PM
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No one cares but there are 346 comments on topic discussing it. Ok. Go back to echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:32 PM
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What exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:24 PM
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Bro I’m with you. Chase your goals, but try not to be mad at world. World doesn’t owe you anything and yes, there’s no justice sadly. Hit the gym, not for girls but for your own health and improving capabilities. Eventually, maybe some cute girl will find you attractive or maybe not who cares. Do what you have to do and come what may.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:40 PM
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It’s not like this. He wants everyone to suffer like him because he wants compassion. And as we know in todays society incels it unlucky men however u call them don’t get compassion neither from men, nor from women. That are just seen as losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:30 PM
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And you try to kind of shame those men who don’t pursue relationships. Stat says it’s 50% from 18-30 yo. You bet majority of those guys couldn’t find a couple if they tried? They are all incels? You’re wrong. Men just are raising their standards and it is what they should do. Cuz if there were no simps, no cuckolds, no saving tickets for single mothers. World would be better as it should be. Women would behave differently and more responsible in terms of choosing a partner. It is what we all nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:28 PM
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So we end up in a situation when gigachads often don’t approach, neither do average guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:14 PM
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Bro u are deluded. A close friend of mine is a very attractive man who gets female attention as long as I know him. Like since early childhood. And he doesn’t approach any woman at all. Because he’s chasing his dreams and he, especially, know how women are promiscuous nowadays. He wants “real love” but for him all women are the same and boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:13 PM
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Nowadays kids are being stolen from father in divorce cases. U know what? Without consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:07 PM
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Yeah it’s not free choice when you pay for it :). And this is the true answer why women bounce out. They have no repercussions at all, and men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:04 PM
1

Thanks for inventing steamengine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:00 PM
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Don’t you realise that long term relationships isn’t about are my needs met? It is about compromise. In compromise your needs can’t be met 100% by definition. So why shouldn’t we talk about women not willing to compromise?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:56 PM
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You are forced by regulations of course lol. When for women exiting marriage is like nothing, especially when a woman leaving not for being single but when she found a new guy to be with. For man it’s like get rid of half your shit and pay alimony and there is high probability exwife will make your kids angry towards you. It’s not rocket science it’s real life examples how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:55 PM
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It actually says that 30% of dna tests are not positive, not like 30% of men raising not their child
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:52 PM
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And it’s not free to leave when you are ought to pay child support and give her 50%. In Russia we even have such thing as alimony for apartments. So in addition to 25% of income for one child you also might end up paying half of her rent if she’s caretaker of the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:44 PM
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That’s the problem. When you marry someone it says till death us apart. You’re actually not free to leave
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:43 PM
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Even if everything other than that is ideal of relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:34 PM
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Pay her 50%. And losing kids while paying child support. Yeah, nothing serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:33 PM
1

Such a vague answer. If I want sex everyday and my gf like 3 times a week, should we breakup?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:28 PM
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Nobody said stay just because. You can stay and purposely try to fix problems in your relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:21 PM
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Guy just asks for understanding, too much complicated thought isn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:16 PM
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Yeah go to extremes. Bruh there was a time when women had their civic rights but also they weren’t sluts and they were married as a guy said in 60s like 90%. But of course to prove your point you will use prehistoric period when women were slaves lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:11 PM
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It will affect them. I personally heard from plenty of women that nowadays men are just not approaching them. And they were good looking women. So they are worried cause men can find happiness outside of marriage. And most women one way or another want to give birth/be married.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:07 PM
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Another thought. Can a need be delusional? If that is who’s responsible for not meeting this need?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:02 PM
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Yeah here comes question of exiting cost for a man. And also, maybe there is something more important than your needs? Like kids, family, future etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:01 PM
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Bruh what are you talkin go about. MEN MEN MEN MEN MEN ARE NOT THE SAME LOL. It is not men who feminism changed you know? There is a reason why women have more sex than men on average. There is a reason for “no slutshame” culture. There is a reason why women file divorces most of the times. I personally know a very hardworking man from my previous job. Not really handsome but neither is his wife. A guy provided for her and their daughter while she was caring about her. What you think? She divorc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 11:57 AM
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Literally no experience in vehicle ownership lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 11:46 AM
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No man in his mind think that your looks are permanent. It will fade and it’s normal. But how much years of beauty he get? If you’re 25 he’s getting like 10-15 years, if you’re 40 hope he gets a couple. And those 40 yo women then whine about established men looking for young chicks. Why would a grown educated fully established men who was rejected on his 20s most of the times by the same women now pick one of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 11:42 AM
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Take antidelusion pill lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 11:37 AM
1

Take the antidelusioner pill
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 11:36 AM
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So you assume that men’s needs in relationships are met? Lol. Your reasoning to 80% divorces initiated by women is absurd
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 11:18 AM
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And why do they?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 11:10 AM
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U just don’t understand how it is to be a man nowadays. And sadly nobody expects you to. There is a reason why on average women have more sex partners than men despite the stereotype saying men are horny pigs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 11:09 AM
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It seems like you are not able to read properly. Op didn’t said anything about “old men”, he said “older”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:53 AM
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Would shaming transpeople fit in the same category of “social cost” or “people reaction to your choices”? If they don’t choose how they feel about themselves, can we say that men don’t choose who they are attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:04 AM
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So if a young woman with “plethora of choices” chooses to date older man who’s like 3-10 years older who are you to criticize? Also if a woman has “plethora of choices” that means that she’s choosing a man, not the other way. But even for women choices you hate men lol. It’s pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:01 AM
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And I doubt that biology is literally the same in different countries because folks could evolve different. Like African ppl have advantage in running compared to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:54 AM
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So you contradicted yourself right here. If they behave different that means dating isn’t the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:51 AM
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Bruh I lived in Russia and now I live in Kazakhstan. The countries were both in ussr like 30 years ago. And I already see the difference, how much more traditional women are here. And you say that USA and SEA are the same sea is just cheaper lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:43 AM
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Bro what is it “gross” about that? Also, why we shame men and not women who participate in those kinds of relationships? I bet we all know that 90% it’s woman who chooses a man not the other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:35 AM
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We are interested because it relates with us :). Or should I use sad emoji idk. I would be happy if your friend is as you say not interested. I say it’s just highly unlikely. And I said he probably not just wants to f you but wants to date, this is whole another story and don’t misunderstand that. This is why friendzone is so hard to escape from. Cuz no matter what you say (guy literally told u to stfu and he’s gonna f you) it will be interpreted as a joke. When he sees you react to it as a joke…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:28 PM
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Bruh. Listen plz girl. If a guy is brave enough to joke about f*ing you, it means he surely wants to f you. As a guy before mentioned he’s just testing the waters and it’s some kind of flirt in his mind. And, my dear, if a guy wants to f you then he’s 90% wants to date you. It’s those top tier men who don’t date women they f. Not the usual 80% of men. And u say he didn’t show u his gf, even though you know him since childhood. This is bizarre. Most likely gf is either product of his mind or she’…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:12 PM
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