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Yep. I’m 28 and already given up on ever finding a girlfriend. I’ve never had one so can’t miss what I’ve never had.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 10:16 AM

They just give you platitudes or think that whatever they did to find love is a universal truth and you must follow their steps exactly. Speaking from experience just keep it to yourself. Your friends will feign concern and try to help but nobody gives a fuck. Trust me. It hurts but this is my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 11:09 AM

More like: Reddit Go to therapy, shower, wear nice clothes, be yourself, get hobbies and join meet up, go to the gym, cold approach Also Reddit Umm why are you doing that to find a girlfriend? I told you to do that for yourself because when you stop looking you’ll find love Normie platitudes trotted out by charlatans who overextend their understanding of modern dating
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 11:07 AM

This is what I’ve thought for a very long time. Attractive men don’t have to follow any of the dating advice you see on Reddit. They don’t need a bunch of hobbies, therapy, meet ups or anything else for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 11:04 AM

I think you’ve taken my comment a little bit too literally. I just meant that men are angry and adopt the red pill because they can’t form romantic partnerships or have casual sex so it serves as a coping mechanism
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 08:13 AM

Said differently: they drop the angry red pill act once they get a taste of what they were missing. Women are only evil to them because they can’t get regular access to romantic or sexual partners so they internalise the anger
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 12:37 AM
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monetised male loneliness That’s the most accurate way to describe what’s happening. Just scroll through any dating Reddit to see it play out. Guys will log on and explain they’ve done everything in the comments only to be told “bro we only told you to self improve for you. You’re an incel if you think this would’ve got you a girlfriend”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 05:34 PM
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Interesting response. If you actually read what’s posted in advice threads you’ll see it amounts to nothing but platitudes. Go to the gym bro, get a hobby bro, wear expensive clothes bro, go to bars bro, grow a beard bro etc. none of it works and all you’re doing is scamming guys into thinking they’ll find a partner if they fulfil this arbitrary list of tasks
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 08:23 AM
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Hmm I’m not sure I agree. These platitudes are designed to terminate the conversation and don’t actually engage with the problem at hand
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 12:13 PM
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The thing is rather than listening and engaging, people read what they think the OP is saying, not what the OP is actually saying so you end up with a disconnect punctuated by normie platitudes that only serve the top percentage of guys. E.g. “cruise bars bro, wear nice clothes bro, get some aftershave bro” and more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 09:46 AM

It’s a dangerous tightrope to walk on and it totally ignores the fact that men and women get into relationships when the circumstances or they themselves are totally fubar. Love usually finds a way and doesn’t spontaneously appear at the end of some arbitrary self fulfilment journey. As a man you can only self improve too much before you lock yourself in a path of loneliness or meet someone to grow with. The biggest emotional developments always come from relationships of all kinds from friendsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 08:37 AM
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They’re both a load of bullshit that each respective side concocts to cope with the fact they can’t find a partner, dates or relationship. Dating sucks regardless of your age gender location or experience. Regardless of if they’re blue or red pilled, successful people don’t have to analyse, think or strategise their dating like you see on Reddit. Happy people don’t need to ask for advice on how to find a girlfriend for example
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 10:00 AM
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Lol I'm 28 and it still hasn't happened. I'm cooked
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:55 PM
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Okay to use your basketball analogy: when you were actively dating you had tonnes of free throws. Sure not many of them would’ve landed but you still had shots. For guys were constantly up against strong defence and 9/10 of our shots are routinely blocked
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:54 PM
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Because every time guys like me who are below average looks go on here and similar subreddits to discuss it we’re constantly hounded for not trying enough or failing to fulfil the seemingly arbitrary list of tasks and quests a guy is supposed to complete to get a girlfriend. Then whenever we try to push back and say we either tried all that and still had no success or that we’re neurodivergent and struggle socially we’re beaten back and called incels who don’t want to improve etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:52 PM
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It would fix mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:17 PM
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I love that sub
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 09:39 AM
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Approach where exactly? Were told not to approach in public spaces
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 09:39 AM
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Both men and women need to be held accountable for their actions it’s as simple as that. We need to stop putting women on a pedestal. Most attractive young women have never had a guy say no to anything they ask for so they really do need to be educated on boundaries and the effects their word and actions have on those around them. Reddit seems to make it look like everyone flocks to women at men’s expense but that’s mainly because this site is full of lonely virgins or long term single men who w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 09:38 AM

No
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 05:05 PM

So you invent superficial reasons to hide the fact tho don’t find the guy physically attractive? I’d rather be told you aren’t attracted to me than “oh you need to level up your charisma stat, it’s not you it’s me”.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 12:47 PM
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I was agreeing with you I just replied to the wrong guv
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 12:46 PM
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The solution is literally to date someone whose Ace instead of shaming non ace man into not wanting sex
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:50 AM
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Okay now I know this is whole argument is bs
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:49 AM
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“Shame top tier men”. Firstly that would just make you an incel and secondly when the tap to unlimited sex is wide open why would Chad want to stop because some horny virgin with his hog in his hand shames him about all the regular sex he had?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:44 AM
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If the men women find attractive stopped being thirsty Fixed it for you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:43 AM
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Man bashing isn’t cool
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:42 AM
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Change that flair to red pill woman
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:30 AM
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Then I suggest you don’t read what they put in the comments or dating subs in response to guys
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:24 AM
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See this is the thing. I’m also autistic and this post pretty much mirrors my experiences here. It’s social and romantic because after all if you read the dating advice on reddit it always says to get yourself into social situations with women before asking them out. If you can’t do step one how can you do step 2? How can you convince people that you’re just as human as Chad across the bar but autism makes it harder to perceive and be perceived.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:21 AM
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Like that comic where a guy had his bike stolen and he says “the thief probably needed it more than me lol” or they’ll just throw ad hominems
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:16 AM
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Shit man that sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:15 AM
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So don’t shit where you eat but talk to women at work? Why mention work to begin with? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:12 AM

Lmao. So basically everyone to the left of the bell curve or attractiveness then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:08 AM

I reject that point too. I think what everyone is missing is below the top tiers of attractiveness, most men and women have very similar experiences when it comes to finding a partner. Not casual sex, a long term life partner
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:08 AM

No because I don’t pay to go to clubs lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:07 AM

What are you talking about bro, all you have to do is put yourself out there! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:03 AM
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Unfortunately there's no therapy that can prevent you from understanding human nature. Psychologists will certainly try their best to brain wash you with magical thinking, however it's not very effective on people who believe in the scientific method. Wow so deep!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 08:03 AM
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Would that be bad? You should get therapy for those trust issues too
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 06:57 AM
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Don’t think I made any claim there but we move
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 06:56 AM

This is the only rational way to process this take. If you don’t trust your partner implicitly then don’t have kids. Simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:43 PM

If you think it’s “simple math” then walk up to the board and show the class, smartass. Whilst you’re at it, get therapy for those trust issues and make sure to sign the divorce papers properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:41 PM

one insecurity Which you conveniently understate. It’s actually one massive insecurity considering it involves bringing an entirely new human life into the world. If hubby doesn’t trust the wife to bear his child then he’s not the one for her. He needs therapy before having a child if he’s that insecure. Choices have consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:34 PM
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Was replying to OP
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:16 PM
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The fact that you don’t value or attempt to understand alternate perspectives is all I need to discount this post and your comments. Once again: All you've done is argue, criticise or otherwise insult every single opinion that isn't in support of yours. You don't want a debate you want a self congratulatory echo chamber that reinforces the immense privilege women have on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:04 PM
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Nice bait
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:43 PM
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All you’ve done is argue, criticise or otherwise insult every single opinion that isn’t in support of yours. You don’t want a debate you want a self congratulatory echo chamber that reinforces the immense privilege women have on dating apps. Average male experience: spend weeks curating profile, swipe consistently on good potential matches. Get about 3 matches in 6 months and zero dates. Subreddits almost universally rip their profiles to bits Average female experience: spend a few hours editing…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:01 PM
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OP you’re just being outwardly aggressive. It’s clear this post wasn’t made in good faith and you’ve demonstrated a sustained lack of meaningful engagement with any counterpoints raised in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:54 PM
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OP calm down or you’ll run out of ad hominems to to throw
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:53 PM
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It’s shit being a young man these days. I’m autistic too
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:14 PM
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Yep this is the truth. Unless you’re an 8/10 or over guy she’s constantly weighing your physical attractiveness and appearance against everything else such as personality, your friends literally any leverage. If you’re an attractive guy that goes out the window and you’re the one who controls the dynamic
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:45 AM
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Can second this. I’m autistic and can’t read social cues very well. I’m also sub 6/10 which doesn’t help.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:59 AM

Nothing to do with women broski. They only invent standards to stop guys under 6/10 approaching them. Attractive guys don’t even have to try. Their faceonality breaks the initial awkwardness barrier to an extend which is proportional to the guys perceived attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:28 AM

Only men who sit to the left of sigma = 0 on the bell curve of attractiveness have to do all that shit. Men who are > 1 standard deviation above mean attractiveness don’t have to follow any rules and regularly go on dates or secure relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:26 AM
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I’m nearing 30 and haven’t ever had a girlfriend. Do I feel angry? Nope. Do I want revenge? Also no. But if women suddenly started showing interest in me you better believe I’m taking that opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:29 PM
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Nobody asked you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 07:53 AM
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I know you’re joking but OP that’s the last thing you should don
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:44 AM

Was just about to say this. Another man bashing post. It’s not even debate worthy. What does any of this post even mean in non internet lingo? Fuck knows
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:23 PM
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Maybe dial it back a little bit champ
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:09 AM
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What did this add to the discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:19 PM
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I didn’t say they should be held as compatible acts but should be equally regarded as repulsive practices. Neither should be accepted in a normal society.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:58 PM
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Get a load of this guy who googled “debate terms” and decided to sprinkle them in his reply
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:35 PM
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I’m staunchly against it. The foreskin is one of the most important parts of male sex organs and protects the head of the penis. Even its successful removal can negatively impact sexual function and sensitivity. This is to say nothing of the scarring and infection risk as well as how self conscious it makes guys who’ve had the procedure. Totally barbaric and should be held to the same standards as FGM
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:36 PM
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So you are trolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:10 PM

So you admit you’re just trolling? Not willing to actually engage with OP or the comments?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:53 PM
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What a load of bollocks that is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:25 PM
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Yawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 11:29 AM
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The same reason that the sky is blue and the grass is green. Figure that one out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 10:15 AM
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I’m sorry I don’t have the time to sanction whatever this is. Peace ✌️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:19 PM
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We’re done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:18 PM
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You conflate me asking you to substantiate a claim—the fundamentals of evidence backed analysis—with an express disagreement of your clearly very well entrenched views. This is how you turn people away from valuable causes; treating curiosity and genuine ignorance as malice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:14 PM
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Is there something wrong with you? I haven’t expressed disagreement in any way and asked from a genuine place of curiosity because I’ve always wondered what women think of men in these scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:13 PM
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It’s not really. I’m asking from a perspective that prevents me from fully seeing the picture. Nothing wrong with explaining and educating. I ask from a place of genuine curiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:09 PM
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You are being aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:00 PM
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Why are you being so aggressive when all I’ve done is reply with genuine curiosity? I’m a man and haven’t seen opinions from women before.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:47 PM
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I’m defending nothing. I’m genuinely curious. One doesn’t usually make such far reaching and specific claims unless there is something to substantiate them. Only one of us is being weirdly defensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:08 PM
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Do you know this as fact or have anything to substantiate it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:01 PM
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I don’t understand this perspective. How can you hold the two to different standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:47 PM
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But you realise you can't have one without the other? Can you explain why you think this way? or you could just downvote me, that works too
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:43 PM
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bombastic and wild as he has seen in porn Most well adjusted men realise this
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:39 PM
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Sorry what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:35 PM
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Also not all sex workers are women who voluntarily chose the profession for some extra money or to afford a lifestyle they otherwise couldn't. It also involves human trafficking. This is very true
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:34 PM
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But would I date such a man whose sexual experience has been mostly escorts? Nope. Le't look at the other side of the coin. Would you date a man who's an adult virgin or very inexperienced but refrained from using escorts etc.?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:33 PM
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What's your point here?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:32 PM
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Right so by your logic it's fine for women to do sex work/become prostitutes but shameful for men to use these services/engage with these women? You can't have your cake and eat it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:31 PM

It’s also another fucking man bashing post. I’m sick of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:00 AM
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Ultimately women will fuck whoever and whatever they want. That doesn’t mean they: Owe anyone sex Owe me, possibly you and any other sexless guys anything Guys like me who can’t find a romantic partner or even a FWB are generally the product of autism, poor social skills or trauma. I resent myself and am deeply self conscious but don’t blame anyone else for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:22 PM

Absolutely. I got braces and I also got accutane. Saved me losing my wisdom teeth, improved my oral health and the accutane stopped scarring
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 10:53 AM
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Ask anyone on r/dating and they genuinely convinced themselves this is somehow the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 07:34 PM
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I mean yeah it is pretty hard. Add in autism and small social circle and yes even the trivial tasks become hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 01:09 PM
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All you have to do is goes on to list a very difficult task for most guys as if it's trivial
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 01:03 PM
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I agrée with you on everything except Getting a hobby MAY or MAY not put you in a favorable position to be a good dating choice for women. I don't know your life situation. But my point is, having a hobby should be a solitary or limited group activity for your own personal enjoyment and enrichment of self. The questions that this advice is posted as answers to are not about personal enrichment but how to meet women and get dates. This advice is especially unhelpful because some guys like me are …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:03 PM
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you shouldn't be having hobbies to get laid. So why is it a stock answer when people ask for specific advice on how to get laid or find a gf?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:32 AM
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Right but it’s not the go to response is it? Guys come on dating subreddits and explain they’re followed all the platitudes like getting a hobby, joining a club, working out, taking care of personal hygiene, going to therapy and the response isn’t “hmm maybe we need to evaluate why women don’t find you attractive” it’s almost always incel, it isn’t a checklist to guarantee you pussy Even though this advice is almost always universally given out to guys who are struggling regardless of their situ…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:26 AM
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Guys have to get their looks, fitness and money up by wearing nice clothes smell nice etc. Some people even state the obvious with “take a shower bro” regularly. All women generally get told to do is pick a nice man from the bunch.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:44 AM
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😂😂😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:39 AM
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This is shit advice bro. All the clubs and around me are oversubscribed and full of people trying to do this. They’re all sausage fests.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:39 AM
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It's true. Self-improvement isn't about getting a girlfriend, it's about raising the level of women you can get This is the thing. If as a baseline you aren’t successful with women or viewed as sexually attractive from the get go then all you’ll be is Johnny six pack with just your right hand for comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:37 AM
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There’s absolutely a lot of truth in this. I’m autistic and have a very small friend group plus I’m not conventionally attractive so I pretty much gave up on the idea of it ever happening. My friend who just got married keeps hammering me for not trying and suggests this laundry list of advice for self improvement but he simply can’t accept that for most guys in my generation they can go on dates, have casual sex, marry or get into serious relationships as a matter of nature. It just happens for…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:36 AM
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Why are you being so rude? Why did you butt in with an irrelevant comment and then insult me when I answered
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:28 PM
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I’d agree with it being borderline to date an 18 year old because there’s a maturity gap in my experience between 18 and e.g. 26
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:18 PM
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Moreover in what universe is it creepy for someone in my age bracket (24-26) to date someone 20 years old?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:56 PM
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As it happens, no I haven’t. None of my friends say this either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:32 PM
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This is just another bad faith man bashing post
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:07 PM
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If you think someone asking for a source to a demonstrably wrong argument is insulting you then you’re not going to make it bro. Peace out
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:20 AM
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Title of the sub is debate. All you’ve done is pull speculation and unsubstantiated tripe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:14 AM

Wow you’ve convinced me. What a terrible and unsubstantiated argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:10 AM

Okay so can you substantiate it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:06 AM

Huh. Any… evidence that men aren’t lonely? I’m just curious because that’s a big claim to level
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:02 AM

OP you seem fixated on sex but can you explain what “emotional labour” is? I’m not familiar with therapy speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:02 AM

Ehhhh idk about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:01 AM

Yawn. Another men bashing post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:00 AM

Then why did you start this entirely irrelevant and generalised discussion to a specific question OP asked?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 11:42 PM
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Translation: my friend/colleague set me up and I reluctantly agreed but we ended up hitting it off. They always bury the lede and omit that they met through work or other formulaic environments
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 04:50 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:24 PM
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How is what I said a personal attack? She’s arguing in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:13 PM
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This is what I was trying to say. Sex requires 2 consenting adults whereas walking and talking are fundamental stages of human development. Telling how they haven’t replied to my comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:29 PM

I’m not angry, I accepted years ago no women will ever find me sexually attractive. Seems like only one of us has any conscience and inner peace. You’re disgusting and failed to engage with the questions I posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 09:47 AM
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Shallow or not, i'm not in the market for a neurodivergent guy. Any reason? It raises an eyebrow because average people start having relationships and sex during highschool. At 22 for example, most even graduate college. Any stats for that? If you hear about a child not walking by the age of 3, would you think it's something wrong with that child? Learning to walk is part of biological development. Fucking a woman isn’t. If a child is not talking by the age of 6, would you think it's something w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:25 AM
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Proves the point I’ve been saying to my friends. I’m M27 never had a GF and I’m autistic so yep. This will be my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:08 AM
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How shallow. You’d judge a guys entire character based on if they’d had sex before? Some guys like me just never made the cut thanks to being neurodivergent, slow to develop or other reasons. Can you give a well balanced answer why it would “raise an eyebrow”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:07 AM
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Idk what sort of 20 year olds you’re mixing with but the maturity gap is massive in my area. I teach at my local university and even though there’s only 7 ish years between me and them I wouldn’t dream of dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:55 AM
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It’s getting tiring now scrolling this subreddit and seeing posts designed to bash men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:54 AM
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Ok 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:42 AM
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Ok 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 10:48 PM
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Never gonna happen for me. I’m 27 and still haven’t had my first girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:08 PM
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If the ex comes up as a frequent, lengthy topic of conversation then he/she/they clearly isn’t out of the picture. Deal accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:53 AM
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Was about to say OP clearly says this from the perspective of someone with little trouble dating. Either that or it’s blissful ignorance
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:38 AM
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I never understood this position. I think there are of course limits to how far and what sort of "insecurities" we're discussing but to me a relationship means we share this stuff 50:50 and deal or learn to live with our past struggles. Otherwise one partner represses or is told to repress everything whilst the other (the woman) lambasts the man for being fragile. Women can turn things around on their head too. Like if you say "babe I'm not comfortable with you going out with a dress up your che…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:54 AM
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If your girl shows that kind of lack of empathy then you should dump her. 99.99% of the female gender has left the chat
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:53 AM
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You set the limits
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:22 PM

Not in equal proportions or frequencies. Idk what you’re point is not why you’re arguing it so aggressively when you’re get to substantiate it with numbers or facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:48 PM
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Nobody said anything about sex. I just want companionship and closeness on a level a fellow man can't produce.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:37 PM

For a woman to have sex with a man who wants her as much as she wants him, there is a man also getting sex from someone who wants him as much as he wants her. Okay you're going to have to explain that further. And hugging friends isn’t supposed to be a substitute for “better” affection. Men who like affection (like me!) consider hugs fun and rewarding. Men who say “IM STARVED FOR AFFECTION” but then turn up their nose at anything that isn’t “sexual affection” are just trying to say “I’m so horny…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:34 PM

You’re arguing in bad faith rather than presenting a logical point. men can just hug each other. Idk why they’re alone
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:27 PM
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How is that agreement?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:27 PM

If men wanted more affection, they’d hug their friends. Sure, that’s definitely a substitute for the warmth and affection of cuddling a woman who loves you. What they want is sex from a woman who desires him as much as he desires her. Who’s “they”? What proportion of men have you surveyed to determine that? I don’t think mutual affection is a tall order to be fair. Of which men and women get roughly the same amount (with some less rewarding sex here or there throughout their lives.) Okay that’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:26 PM
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Yes of course. Women can go months without relationships and affection because the scales are tipped in their favour. Men approach them and never the other way round. Female loneliness is totally different to male loneliness
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:24 PM
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We can’t control who we’re attracted to the same way we can’t control who is attracted to us. If dating sex and relationships be gamed this way people wouldn’t be stuck on the sidelines like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:59 PM
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Just take care of yourself first and put yourself first. Always have. I have nobody else by my side. Be attracted to women that like you and don't be with women solely for her physical appearance as she will most likely have a mean attitude and won't like you back. That would be nobody. In getting slight incel/redpill vibes from that last line.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:54 PM
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Brah you don’t get it! Go to the gym and be nonchalant. Chicks dig muscular narcissists
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:36 PM
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Right so like a hyper capitalist society you just keep growing infinitely at the cost of everything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:34 PM
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It’s reflective of a lot of the advice you see on dating subs. A lot of advice directed at men requires them to be Johnny 6 pack who goes to therapy 3 times a week and gives 3/4 of his paycheck too the poor. I agree it’s not healthy to bring past baggage into new relationships but to suggest a man or indeed woman has to be absolutely perfect and in the best position of their lives before they start dating is frankly deluded. Life is chaotic and we all develop at our own paces, these are things w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:30 PM
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There’s nothing to debate. This is just a diluted version of just hit the gym bro Or be the best version of yourself bro
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:28 PM
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when I briefly signed up for a dating app, there was not even a smidge of commitment-oriented material on these men's profiles. Out of the hundreds, possibly thousands of profiles you scrolled as well as the undoubtedly massive amount of likes you got and based upon very little other than a few photos and a bio you instantly concluded that all of these men aren’t after commitment? A lot of young men, don't want marriage or kids. Believe you me that’s all most young guys want but modern dating is…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:44 PM
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“Wah i picked my men on looks alone and it turns out they’re shallow and don’t meet my standards. I’m going to extrapolate and say this is representative of the entire pale population" This entire post just comes off as yet another installation of gender bashing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:49 AM

I know where I stand in life and I know the truth would confirm it but I just want some real advice from these people rather than meaningless platitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 10:18 PM

I’d kill for some real heart to heart advice over “just go to the gym bro”. Sure I might not take it well at the time but it’s mean something real to me. I want to hear advice that makes me reflect and think rather than a laundry list of vague platitudes distilled from infallible cook advice
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 10:02 PM
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When you’re attractive, high status, have opportunities to socialise, get laid and be part of the social fabric of your generation you soon find it takes considerably less effort to meet women versus e.g. a nerd or autistic man with hobbies perceived as antisocial. It’s common knowledge that high status men and women get the lions share of options socially romantically and sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 03:08 PM
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If you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:16 PM
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At least they can choose single life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 10:38 AM
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Like a housing bubble and men are the subprime mortgages feeding it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 10:38 AM
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Gpt?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 10:06 PM

Hey all I said was cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:36 PM

Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:20 PM

Excuse me?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:59 PM
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Nice. Ableist
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:43 PM
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There comes the ableism. Yes I am autistic. Perhaps you should use specific and directed language to make your points.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:50 PM
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… which is my point
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:41 PM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:02 PM
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Cool 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:01 PM
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I’m being hyperbolic
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:01 PM
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Maybe you have a point but doesn’t that prove what I’m saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:59 PM
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Cool story
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:58 PM
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None of that is relevant. Not talking about me specifically
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:44 PM

I’m moving no goalposts. You say you approach women. Do you approach only conventionally attractive women? I don’t approach women because I have nobody to go out with and I’m told it’s creepy to approach women in normal settings. If I found any woman particularly attractive then sure. In fact I’d be more likely to approach a women who isn’t stunningly attractive because I know I don’t have a chance with the top 10% Also, several comments down you start talking about autism. Yeah dude- confidence…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:39 PM
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What? Can you rephrase that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:35 PM
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Yep. You can see they’re starting to attack me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:34 PM

Moving the goal posts again! I’m sick of saying this but that’s what people seem to be doing here. oh so you followed my advice than that given to you by chad? Seems like you need to lower your standard bro Any guy who’s lonely and single is DESPERATE for the attention and wouldn’t think twice if a “non Stacey” asked them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:12 PM
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Selectively quoting dubious studies doesn’t overrule the consensus that men are having less sex, marrying less and meeting partners later and later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:53 PM
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If they look into the mirror they’ll see a reflection of themselves. Without any external and impartial support the reflection remains permanently unchanged. This is once again dodging accountability and moving the goalposts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:47 PM
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chad was simply spending more time with his friends and training social skills instead of sitting alone at home. How do you think he got those friends and girls he rotates through? Because he has a good faceonality. As an autistic man I’ve always been on the fringes of society and my generation so I’ve seen plenty of these guys. It takes very little effort for them to get what they want. Assume you’re a young single woman. Would you pick the slightly unattractive slightly autistic man who still …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:35 PM

I’m sorry I don’t follow. Can you rephrase?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:21 PM

Chad wasn't chad from the get-go. Maybe chad was more naturally inclined towards certain things that helped him get a date, but he still had to put the work in. Demonstrably false. When you’re attractive and have opportunities to socialise, get laid and be part of the social fabric of your generation you soon find it takes considerably less effort to meet women versus e.g. a nerd or autistic man with hobbies perceived as antisocial. An innate active man has to work orders of magnitude harder to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:20 PM
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This one thousand times over. I’ve seen people get downvoted to hell in dating subreddits for saying this but you’ve phrased it so well here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:16 PM

That’s just moving the goalposts again and refusing to admit the advice doesn’t work unless you’re chad. What the fuck does self assess even mean anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:12 PM

Okay then. What in your qualified experience will get these guys a date then? So far you’ve moved the goal post So let’s assume I’ve Gone to the gym, bought nice clothes, said yes to everything, gone to therapy, got my money up, approached women, developed my game Yet I’m still alone? See how the advice is just formulated to make the person giving it feel better and an easy way out? Don’t you see how it’s just crap that Chad posts out of survivorship bias? Chad correlates what he did to get laid…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:07 PM

You shouldn't be looking at the exception when something works for the other 99.9% of people. There wouldn’t be an epidemic of lonely single men if “99.9%” of guys could get laid by following that tripe.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:03 PM

You can deny the whole hypergamy and “she only fucks chad” arguments but it’s undeniable that online and in person women have a better choice of options. What’s often overlooked however is the overlap between attractive men and attractive women: their experiences are generally the same. Lots of options and lots of opportunities. It’s why you see people on dating subreddits giving advice to go to the gym, grow a beard, socialise, be yourself etc. Because when you’re attractive you already have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:01 PM

Yes and no. I don’t strictly agree with this notion because you could be a single guy who follows what you’ve said and puts the work in to better themselves and improve their chances yet they still end up single. This happened to my closest friend. He’s handsome, wears nice clothes, talks nicely, is respectful and frankly I’d date him if I was gay or bisexual. I think there is definitely a selection bias problem
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:59 PM
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What? You already did that brah? Sounds like you need to get your money up brah
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 01:11 PM
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What you mean you tried going to the gym, approaching women, going to therapy, growing a beard and the pussy didn’t come flooding in? Idk bro maybe you were just too forward and arrogant. Women don’t owe you sex brah. All this worked for me brah /s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 12:48 PM
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Exactly. It stops becoming advice and instead becomes self fulfilling normie platitudes on the same wavelength as “be yourself” “go to the gym bro” etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 12:37 PM

I’m tired of hearing this thing about men getting more attractive in their 30s because as many people have said it only applies to men who had regular, sustained dating, sex and success in their late teens and 20s. It does not apply to e.g., men on the spectrum or men who have immutable flaws in their appearance through eg. Bad genes or disabilities
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 12:02 PM
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Wait, I’m not holding up a mirror am I? Maybe say something I can engage with rather than reactionary female incel tripe
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:27 PM

Not reading all that. Have a nice weekend! 👍😎
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:23 PM

Then why are you here if all you want to do is provoke, argue in bad faith and use reverse incel talking points about how evil men are
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:17 PM

Why are you so bitter and vitriolic? You won’t win any support and it’ll only drive further animosity but you do you sister
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:11 PM
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See this snapping turtle style response to even the mildest provocation by jilted men is why we can never have a genuine discussion about things like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:01 PM
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Men create their own problems. Such as? Then they harass, threaten, kill and rape people Indeed but the vast majority of men are just trying to get by and find the energy to wake up in the morning. All I want in life is a woman by my side who loves me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:00 PM
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I'd rather be paralysed by overwhelming options than stuck with no food or water in a sahara-scale dry spell
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:21 PM
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I do think they have an easier time having sex, of course. I feel like there are a lot of similarities between lonely, romantically unsuccessful men and women who are in the same boat. What differentiates the two and fuels the division is that women on the whole have an easier time finding someone to have sex with. The problem is guys tend to conflate sex with romantic partnerships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:20 PM

If you are a sperg you are fucked. yep. Women can smell autism from a mile away, even if they're not autistic themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 10:16 AM

Don't make me tap the sign: always follow rules 1 and 2 You could be Johnny 6 pack who goes to therapy 4 times a week and gives all his money to the poor but as soon as a >8/10 comes along you'll be a memory. Looks and status give you a major buffer zone to be awkward or boring as a man. Think of what works in advertising: it's the well written, sexily photographed products that always sell.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 10:15 AM
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Wut
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:10 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 10:47 PM
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What do you mean, what do I mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 10:07 PM
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Bro what is your deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 09:30 PM
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It’s true though. Fire up tinder and swipe on the hottest guy. Within a few days it’s six or a free meal
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 09:27 PM
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Normalising doing stuff alone is good and I encourage it because we shouldn’t be dependent on people to do things/go to places that interest us. With that said sometimes it’s just nicer to share that experience with someone who loves and cares about you. It becomes less about the thing or destination you’re seeing/doing and more about bonding over shared experiences and making memories. People who are single like me are often fine on their own going to places and events without a partner but som…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:49 PM
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The last line of your comment said it perfectly. As a below average man I don’t even have the option to get involved with casual sex even if I wanted to. When a man says he has nobody he literally means that. He doesn’t have an app full of women dtf. He has himself and nobody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:47 PM

You could be the most vapid vacuous and hollow soul but if you have a big package, abs and an attractive face you’ll be swimming in puss
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 07:46 PM

Beautifully said. Unless you’re >7 or 8/10 there’s no point even trying to play the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 07:45 PM
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I think the underlying problem for men is not how to get a girlfriend since most guys already answered that when dating in their teens Heh. Yeah all that dating and 1/cos(x) I had as a teenager
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:22 AM
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Just join clubs and wear nice clothes bro. Go to the gym as well bro. Chicks dig muscles bro. Sure you might be autistic with zero dating options but at least you’ll be shredded brah.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:21 AM
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Does your wife/husband (no judgement on my LGBT brothers/sisters in arms) know you do this? Go unblock your gutters or paint the spare room lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:03 PM
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Guys will literally log onto Reddit to defend anonymous wamen in the hopes they get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:00 PM
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Probably wants some pussy and thinks he’ll get it by defending women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:49 PM
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You’re insanely cringe dude
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:37 PM

She’s not going to notice you bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:28 PM
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