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We are not coming to a massive correction, you’re delusional. People in power are still in power, the ones that are making it hard for everyone (both men and women, BTW) are laughing their assess off while people foolishly believe “the time for justice has come”, we will continue to be oppressed as the victim-oppressor aren’t men and women, it’s the 1% vs the 99%; with people like you, then its the 1% vs the 50%, then they focus on black people and becomes 1% vs 20% and so on. United, we stand; …
/r/PussyPassDenied18/03/21 02:46 PM
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Sorry to burst your bubble but it it that simple. Take india, for example, where women often study tech oriented careers, they choose those careers because they offer more opportunity for social mobility; in more developed countries, when left at their own devices and women aren’t oppressed (no matter how much some people say they do) men are more interested in STEM than women, women prefer socially oriented careers. This will not change, as women as a whole don’t tend to pursue careers based on…
/r/PussyPassDenied18/03/21 02:39 PM
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A social problem is relevant to look into no matter the gender of the perpetrator; under your logic, female circumcision is not as worthy to look into because most of the perpetrarors are the same gender. The problem is homogenizing people by their gender; people of the same gender can have different backgrounds, hence the conditions of two people of the same gender killing each other can vary so much that it’s best to take more impactful variables into account (like economic status, education l…
/r/AntiFeminists13/03/21 03:46 PM
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That question has no relevance, though. For example: most female circumcisions are carried out by women, the women brought that idea into their culture so, ¿we should not care about it then?
/r/AntiFeminists13/03/21 03:08 PM
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Then your opinion is biased and nobody smart enough would take you seriously. I’m sorry that you and some of your friends were hurt, but you are dead set on doing the same thing and will become (or already are) also an abuser. There are plenty of men here that were abused by women and also suffer for systemic misandry, even though your own pain fails to admit that possibility, and they rarely demonize all women, although sadly, some do. I don’t hate women nor anyone should hate an entire gender,…
/r/AntiFeminists12/03/21 11:12 PM
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So then you are unable to humanize your own gender, that’s even sadder. Sexism is discriminating someone based on their biological sex or gender, so whenever someone says that men cannot be oppressed, they are showing the textbook example of sexism. Its as simple as that, any of that systemic sexism is bulshit people made out to justify their own sexist beliefs and feel good while dehumanizing the other gender. I don’t feel like a victim, btw; it may surprise you, but people can call out other p…
/r/AntiFeminists11/03/21 08:01 PM
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You are using too many words to try to justify your sexism. All those words could be resumed by: “I’m mad because I was born a woman, and women clearly have it worse/are inferior to men, so I want men to somehow make up for it” We understand that you hate yourself, no need to come here and show us your denial, it’s obvious for everyone but yourself that you’re uncapable of understanding complex stuff. You are amusing to me; I’ll give you that.
/r/AntiFeminists11/03/21 05:15 PM
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Tiny brain moment. “This concept that I completely understand and am even using the official term for does not exist.” It’s sad that you were dropped as a baby; your mom was worried about your development and we tried to calm her down but she was right, the damage was done; I know the world must be very hard for you to understand but don’t worry, you can stop making an effort and stop straining that little brain of yours, we got this.
/r/AntiFeminists11/03/21 03:59 PM
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See? when someone asks you about real cases of cultural misogyny, you have to go to countries known for their violation of human rights. Also, they also stone men in their honour killings, so they aren’t exclusive to women (although there are twice as many women victims) In developed countries, though; there’s draft forced onto men, which means they can’t decide over their own bodies and life and have to give it to their countries; they get circumcised without their consent; they are not conside…
/r/PussyPassDenied10/03/21 03:46 PM
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Exactly; there’s shitty things about being a woman or a man and one can adopt a bitter attitude blaming or envying the other gender, but at the end of the day we would be wallowing in self-hatred instead of realizing that there’s also plenty of great things about being a man or a woman.
/r/AntiFeminists09/03/21 08:12 PM
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I think that deep down, many women that are too deep into those misandrist rabbit holes are in reality misogynists in an unconcious level, they act as if they are being dealt a bad hand for being women and see men as threatening because they would be violent themselves if they “had the power” men have. They feel that being a man is more desirable, as they think women don’t have power. It’s a lot like men who feel threatened by women’s sexuality, they feel as if women have sexual power over them …
/r/AntiFeminists09/03/21 06:56 PM
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Because that’s their flagship product, they want rape to be a bigger threat in the real world than it really is because they see it as a female exclusive problem (it isn’t). They want to blow their problems out of proportion so they can be viewed as victims by society, and then they have the upper hand to bully others for “reparations”.
/r/AntiFeminists09/03/21 02:41 PM
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“Lmao... yes. Rape is just sex, you can be theatrical about it but it’s just sex” <——- This is how stupid you sound.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/03/21 08:58 PM
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Why do you hate it so much? You are supposedly on the bottom end of Gen Z so probably you and I were exposed to different cultural tendencies when we were in high school, so I’m interested in hearing the perspective of a Gen Z woman. I also dislike the way feminism is undermining society with their unchecked misandry, but I’m not sure this google logo is representing feminism itself, it’s just conmemorating women’s day, what I am missing?
/r/AntiFeminists08/03/21 02:07 PM
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I agree that the majority of victims don’t end up abusing, but sometimes trauma is si big or the person was so unprepared for it that they end up blocking the experience; they don’t understand their own pain and aren’t able to recognize their victimhood, they just project their denial and pain onto others and make them suffer without they being able to acknowledge their own suffering. But I bet there’s people that just make others suffer without being victims themselves, but I feel like they are…
/r/PussyPassDenied08/03/21 01:43 PM
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Those expectations are not exclusively being pushed by men, in fact there has been studies that show that mothers punish their sons for being sensitive more than fathers do; confidence in their partners is expected by women while insecurities are frowned upon; girlfriends/spouses leave their partners as soon as they get sick or aren’t able to provide (ask any physical therapist and they would have plenty of stories of women leaving men as soon as they are physically uncapable. So we don’t need a…
/r/AntiFeminists22/02/21 04:51 PM
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It’s not that people misunderstand the term, it’s that the term was coined in bad faith, that’s why brainwashed or simple minded people try to explain it to people that does not accept manipulative narratives, exactly like you are trying to do here. If it refers to cultural norms and is not aimed towards men or masculinity, couldn’t they named it “toxic expectations”?, because the term implies that certain aspects of masculinity is toxic, and does not reflect the fact that many women push those …
/r/AntiFeminists22/02/21 04:41 PM
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I believe you never try to mask anything, you are not even able to mask your own stupitity!
/r/AntiFeminists16/02/21 02:25 PM
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I agree with you, it’s usually pretty easy to tell: for example, the comments you are making out of bad faith are recognized as such an quickly downvoted as they should, and your childish mindset has been exposed quickly. Be better.
/r/AntiFeminists16/02/21 02:17 PM
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If the term wasn’t loaded and sexist; it wouldn’t ve necessary for you or anyone else to write a wall of text trying to explain the “nuances” of the term. If the term wasn’t trying to be sexism in disguise, they would’ve call it “toxic expectations” or anything non-gendered. It’s hypocritical that the people that came up with the term “toxic masculinity” where the same ones that critizised terms like “Hysteria”.
/r/AntiFeminists06/02/21 02:47 PM
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I don’t get why get mad over a post like that or over FDS; these women are sad and cringy, it’s hard to take them seriously or not to feel bad about them. But let’s be honest, here, If they were so happy being single, why be a part of FemaleDATINGstrategy? These women are salty AF about being single; it’s easier for them to be in denial than to accept the fact they want a man in their lives desperately but deep down they feel they aren’t attractive enough to do so. So they project their self-hat…
/r/AntiFeminists29/01/21 04:52 PM
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Your argument appears to be that “Men are primarily victims of other men, thus they aren’t comparable to women that are victimized by men”, and it has no intellectual substance. The argument implies that some victims are more important that others, based on a nonsensical, circular logic. If that is not your argument, then your observation of the perpetrators being men was not necessary.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/01/21 05:59 PM
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Female genital is usually performed and enforced by other women in Africa; so we also shouldn’t mind FGM then? In the instance of the woman who killed the other pregnant woman and then proceeded to remove the fetus from her, there isn’t really a victim because they where the same gender? If you use that logic in other instances, that logic demonstrates its ridiculousness, so a smart person wouldn’t go around spreading that nonsense you’re spreading. It doesn’t make a difference who the perpetrat…
/r/PussyPassDenied13/01/21 02:50 PM
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You are not as capable of critical thinking as you think you are ;). In a few comments you managed to demonstrate your biases, even going as far as assuming this person’s race as white, what does that have anything to do with anything? are you aware that those biases cloud your judgement? Fortunately people like you out themselves the moment they enounce a sentence; you gave away you lack of understanding on the subject. Good luck with all that!
/r/AntiFeminists05/01/21 04:33 PM
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I don’t need to, waist circunference is all the information you need to know to assess someone’s obesity as a health risk. These women’s waist circunference is surely beyond 88 cm. We have to be honest with these issues if we really care about these people. Waist circumference cut-off levels. As a general guide, increased obesity-related health risks are associated with a WC greater or equal to 94 cm in men and 80 cm in women. If a man has a WC greater than 102 cm, he is at a substantially incre…
/r/AntiFeminists04/01/21 04:54 PM
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These women are morbidly obese, what are you talking about?
/r/AntiFeminists04/01/21 04:43 PM
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Of course; we have to acknowledge these biases because most sexism towards women is already on the surface and is slowly disappearing, but sexism towards males is still acting on a subconcious social level, and most people don’t notice or admit them. This is why I originally followed these subs (pussypass and pussypassdenied), because some people here are acknowledging the biases and trying to put then on the surface so they can change. I admit that this sub’s posts not always go in that directi…
/r/PussyPassDenied26/12/20 04:02 PM
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It could be argued that jokes are more the consequence of the bias, not the cause of it. These jokes and the lighter sentencing could come from the same source. Imho the problem is complex because we are often “indocttinated” by society, and society has created this biases for ages; women were ofren viewed as “protected” because in the first small human groups, if a woman died the reproductive capabilities for the village were severly handicapped, whereas when men died, his genetic material is l…
/r/PussyPassDenied26/12/20 03:30 PM
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I agree with you on that. Hopefully we’ll become less divided in the future.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/12/20 09:50 AM
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“Men” didn’t show sexism historically, as “men” as a single monolithic group in history have never existed. Some men were sexist and some weren’t; some cultures were more progressive than others and some where even matriarchal in structure. There were sexist views in culture, both created by women and men together, and this views weren’t only sexist towards females. Let’s look at history honestly and stop pretending that women are being sexist only NOW, as there were sexist women throghout histo…
/r/FeminismStopsWhen11/12/20 04:42 PM
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You are absolutely right, being unecessarialy mean to someone makes you an asshole; unprovoked name calling is being mean, so according to your own standards you are an asshole. Congratulations, you outed yourself as an asshole.
/r/PussyPassDenied10/12/20 04:28 AM
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You aren’t even able to argue a point without resorting to name calling and you think other people are bigots. Also, I didn’t see anyone calling anyone an asshole. Transgender women or men used to be called transgender because they are different biologically than men and women; this biological distinction is important because of cases like this one, where a transgender man gets pregnant and there’s no legal recourse for him because law for biological men didn’t need to take pregnancy into accoun…
/r/PussyPassDenied09/12/20 10:54 PM
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No problem, I don’t think you were being an ass. You were portraying your perspective. Bottom line, we both agree that it’s shitty to deny people time with their newborn children just because of their gender, so the best solution would be for men and women to be treated fairly and give them equal maternal and paternal leave.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/12/20 08:26 PM
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I agree with you, I never said I was ok with him having less time with their child for being a man, I just said that I think it’s hypocritical to make a choice, expect everyone to cater to that choice, and then back out when said choice renders an unfavorable outcome. This person is feeling what every man feels regarding paternal rights, and instead of trying to improve the situation for him as a man, he tries to back down his own choice and wants instead to be treated as a woman when its conven…
/r/PussyPassDenied09/12/20 05:14 PM
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The problem is many transgender people are insisting to be treated not as a transgender, but as their target gender; all the social narrative likes to brand as “bigots” people that make the mistake or the conciouss decision to call them their original gender. And I don’t personaly think otherwise, the problem id that now, when this person is treated EXACTLY as he wanted to be treated, he feels that he should be treated as a woman when the privilege is no longer on his side. The truth is this guy…
/r/PussyPassDenied09/12/20 03:34 PM
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There’s a thing feminist call “The pink tax” where some pink products or women’s beauty products cost more thatn men’s, and they blame it on the patriarchy instead of the fact that they are creating a demand for those products. Feminists invent issues like the pink tax and some people take it seriously, and when people brought real men’s issues they get sidebanded with ridiculous statements like: “bUt mEn ArE tHe OnEs DoINg ThAT sO lEt’S nOT FoCus on ThAt”
/r/PussyPassDenied04/12/20 04:45 PM
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You ignored facts not with your words, but with your conclusions; you can say “the majority” to avoid being obtuse but if your conclusion is: “This issues are men’s fault so they shouldn’t be taken as seriously” is a ridiculously sexist approach, and it is a wrong conclussions as women also play a part in that issue, but your conclusion ignores that. Most of the problems feminist present are in some big or small part also women’s fault (i.e. female genital mutilation being carried out mostly by …
/r/PussyPassDenied04/12/20 04:35 PM
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I bet it isn’t that easy to be an Amish or a Hillbilly either, I’d think that an amish or hillbilly walking around the city would get some dirty looks, while a black guy wouldn’t even be noticed. I bet that the main driver of “privilege” is wealth and/or social status, so a black judge or lawyer would have more privilege that a white garbage man. Seing everything trought the optics of group identity creates this problem where people ignore that most privilege is hereditary, so it has less to do …
/r/PussyPassDenied04/12/20 04:26 PM
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Your argument that men are the ones to blames is reductive at best, sexist at worst. When feminism started, men proposed fhat if women get to vote then men shouldn’t have to do the mandatory draft (as that was the reason men voted and women didn’t; men had a risk and a responsibility to take if they elected someone that decided to go on war) and women voted on maintining the draft exclusively for men. On the same note, the order of the white feather (all women) used to ridicule men that avoided …
/r/PussyPassDenied04/12/20 04:14 PM
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The key word you used is “most people”; most people couldn’t go through something like that but there’s plenty of people who could, especially when there’s a huge incentive to do so (i.e. avoiding life imprisionment) There’s also a fetish on becoming an amputee, it used to be called apotemnophillia but now they call it “Body integrity dysphoria” So being inclined to believe her based on the assumption that most people wouldn’t or couldn’t do it would be a terrible approach. Also, it’s not that h…
/r/PussyPassDenied29/11/20 06:28 PM
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I think this anti-woman anger is the product of feminist propaganda being the mainstream now, like a response to the man hating that feminism often propagates. I agree that it’s sad, hypocritical, and is making the problem worse, but let’s be honest and admit that woman hating is far from being mainstream while man hating is widely accepted and pushed in today’s mainstream feminist agenda. I would argue that the widely accepted misandry in today’s society is the root problem, as most of the woma…
/r/PussyPassDenied27/11/20 03:36 PM
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It’s okay to want a better insight on the issue, what isn’t ok is the willingness people have to assume the woman’s innocence. If there’s no more context, you can also try and read body language and how the situation evolved; the guy is sitting passively and the woman is standing, provoking the guy; the guy hits her once and leaves and the woman goes back to attack the guy some more. Watching how the situation evolved suggests she uses violence regularly or at lesst she reacts aggresively to sit…
/r/PussyPassDenied22/11/20 03:46 PM
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Only powerful men are at the advantage in those countries, poor men fare worse than poor women as they are regarded as disposable. Women are a protected group in every society, sometimes that protection is oppressive in nature and it sucks, but they are rarely seen as disposable.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/11/20 06:14 PM
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I guess I used quotes because there’s nothing really official about feminism, there isn’t a test required to be part of the movement, there isn’t an official registry of who can represent feminism and who can’t, there isn’t even a definitive definition on feminism. I mentioned SCUM and all those things because even though you say that feminism doesn’t support those kind of people, they are often celebrated by feminists, and they influence public opinion and policy in a way that is often dividive…
/r/FeminismStopsWhen29/10/20 02:32 AM
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I see your point, and you’re right, it would be disingenous of me to expect them to be kicked out of an ideology, anyone is free to think whatever they choose and it wouldn’t be within anyone’s power to do so. The problem I see is that it is becoming harder to believe that feminism isn’t misandrist when many of the most prominent feminist speakers are pushing a misandrist agenda; I have heard many self proclaimed feminists say that men cannot be victims because of the so called patriarchy; the d…
/r/FeminismStopsWhen29/10/20 01:44 AM
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Maybe you are but sadly most feminists don’t really separate from them. They march alongside “real” feminists in feminist marches, they still are writing articles for feminist media, they are pushing their sexist agenda on official feminist channels, they are gladly welcome within their ranks, and the rest are just following the movement and defending it blindly. I know you don’t like to accept it, but YOU are the minority, misandry is rampant in feminist spaces and feminists like you, that sepa…
/r/FeminismStopsWhen28/10/20 08:48 PM
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I think feminists are the ones that should separate themselves for the “vocal minority” not the other way around; that “minority” is hijacking their movement, it should be up to feminists to make that distinction. If some priests were abusing children, it would be up to catholics to cast them out of their ranks, non-catholics shouldn’t be ones saying: “Well, that’s not real catholicism, they are just the vocal minority of our priests, not REAL catholics”
/r/FeminismStopsWhen28/10/20 07:39 PM
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It is pretty common for young sexual abuse victims to become sexual abusers when they grow up; I find it paradoxical that society hates rape so much, they can’t fathom that they’re hating on former children that society failed to protect.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/10/20 05:00 PM
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Thanks! Glad someone saw sense in my words. I would think that people got uncomfortable with the notion that their “justice” boner is really a hate boner in disguise. I was trying to explain that it’s more constructive to hate the sin instead of the sinner, so you can uncover and solve the root of the problem, instead of just punishing people that took advantage of the problem, as there will always be more. But, in this age where your “identity” comes first and your humanity second, hating the s…
/r/PussyPassDenied21/10/20 03:27 PM
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I completely agree with you in this case, there shouldn’t be any leniency towards this crimes, I was just explaining why it’s difficult for the law to be “on the right” all the time, as there are many nuances in this tupe of situations The problem lies with society’s attitude towards rape accusations, the law is quick to blame the perpetrators even when they weren’t, just to satisfy the thirst for revenge of the angry mobs. In reality both rape accusations and false accusations should be investi…
/r/PussyPassDenied11/10/20 04:24 PM
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There’s a similar issue in both sides of this argument: both crimes (rape and false accusations) are sometimes hard to prove with solid evidence; with rape, the problem is there is a time frame in which you have to gather said evidence, and the process can be uncomfortable or traumatic for a victim; the problem with false accusations is that it is very difficult to prove a negative, it is not often easy to get evidence of someone NOT doing something, so it is a very damning accusation that leave…
/r/PussyPassDenied11/10/20 03:15 PM
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Exactly, I hope social media becomes the asbestos of the future, so people would look back and say: What the fuck were they thinking?
/r/PussyPassDenied07/10/20 02:26 PM
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That’s the problem with echo chambers like all subreddits tend to be; most of users of this sub go visit misandrist subs like FemaleDatingStrategy and confirm the same fears you are mentioning, but towards themselves. It’s very easy for men and women to hate each other if we are constantly in fear of the other gender.
/r/PussyPassDenied07/10/20 01:54 PM
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I think the problem is thinking every rich person is against poor people, but if you are talking about the world elites, its almost certain they are exploiting the less advantaged, as it is impossible to be “Bezos Rich” without stepping on people. But, even if we accept that all “elites” are oppressors, we shouldn’t hate on them personally, we should condemn their oppresive ways instead and try to take back some of the power they are holding.
/r/PussyPassDenied05/10/20 01:58 PM
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I used 10th grade language because you are showing 10th grade level of understanding. Other people tried using more complex language and ideas and it obviously didn’t get through you. The way you framed your original question was blatantly sexist and you responded to being called out that by posting a link of the term psychological projection. Which was amusingly ironic. If someday you manage to outgrow your sexist framing of reality, you will be able to understand why people here aren’t giving …
/r/PussyPassDenied27/09/20 05:30 PM
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Another link for your own personal development research. Keep up the good work! You’ll get there in no time.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/09/20 05:01 PM
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No problem! Have a great day my friend.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/09/20 04:34 PM
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I agree with your points, women can be powerless in some aspects in life, and we should move forwards to change that The problem is the approach: you want your problems validated and heard while invalidating your counterpart’s situation. Both genders do this while enganging in this nonsensical gender wars. The usual response to this would have to be something like: Men also can’t decide about their own bodies or even their life; circumcision is done on infants and you have to forfeit your life i…
/r/PussyPassDenied27/09/20 04:30 PM
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Finally!, I’m glad you found the concept on your own; now that you understand the concept of psychological projection, be sure to use it to notice your own sexism.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/09/20 04:15 PM
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No; that’s a convenient strawman you are creating. He means that if you don’t want to imply that All women are to believed, then don’t use the prhase “believe all women”, say: “Take accusations seriously”, or something to that effect; it’s not rocket science. You are too deep into this narrative of “men vs women”, that you lost the capability of understanding the meaning of words and discussing reality with other human beings; you just see things in this very simplistic, divisive view of the wor…
/r/PussyPassDenied27/09/20 04:08 PM
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I meant that the concept of toxic masculinity can hurt men by making some men feel inadequate for having “masculine” traits, as it is a loaded term; I don’t think society’s expectations on men are men’s fault (nor are they women’s fault; both genders contribute in the creation and preservation of harmful expectations on both genders).
/r/MensRights25/09/20 08:48 PM
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Not Op, but I agree with that, the problem is that you are assuming rape and bullying is something inherent to the male gender, as if being violent is a masculine characteristic instead of a human one. That’s the problem with taking those concepts at face value without really analyzing the nuances behind the concept; the fact that the only term used around is “toxic masculinity” and not its counterpart, the way they worded it to be easily mistaken as masculinity being toxic instead of calling it…
/r/MensRights25/09/20 03:26 PM
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Men hold lower standards for having sex with a woman, but to stay or commit with said woman, the standards are really high, beauty being one important factor.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/09/20 02:00 PM
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I know you are not here to learn anything that challenges your worldview, but you can read here that not only your premise that women didn’t oppress anybody isn’t plausible, but also proves you that men aren’t the only ones sending men to war. as women are more likely to do so than men. https://qz.com/967895/throughout-history-women-rulers-were-more-likely-to-wage-war-than-men/amp/ Have a good day!
/r/MensRights23/09/20 04:58 PM
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Your first argument was that men weren’t legally oppressed by the system, now that you’ve been proven wrong you’re saying that men were legally oppressed by the system; a completely contradicting view of your first claim. If it oppresses both genders, Why is it a patriarchy? It appears to me that you are not interested in forming a well constructed argument, you just wanna confirm your biases and evade any evidence on the opposite. Men haven’t been the only one in power, as much you would like t…
/r/MensRights23/09/20 04:36 PM
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Going to war, dying at dangerous jobs, having to “man up” when things are though surely don’t sound oppresive, they sound fun!
/r/MensRights23/09/20 03:38 PM
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I agree with your assertion that they were not inherently “bad people” because they did bad things unknowingly, the problem is that by defending their morality you’re ignoring their contribution to the destruction they allowed to happen, and you can end up in their exact position without noticing. If you know good feminists then you should try to bring up these topics, even if that’s uncomfortable; if good feminists called out the bad feminists for their misandric behaviour, feminism wouldn’t be…
/r/MensRights16/09/20 05:13 PM
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That’s awesome! Jung has excelent tools for self discovery. I know Jung’s not obscure knowledge, but I think it should be part of any curriculum in high school or college.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/09/20 04:15 PM
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If you are interested about this phenomenon, look up Carl Jung’s work related to the archetypes, specificallly, “the shadow” archetype. This concept explains that while we develop, whatever we don’t like or accept about ourselves or whenever we are punished in some way when doing something, we hide those characteristics, thoughts or desires in our “shadow”. Like living in a state of denial about your own shortcomings (or even your own tenderness or vulnerability) When we detect those same charac…
/r/PussyPassDenied04/09/20 03:43 PM
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I’m sorry, but if you came here to learn about what makes people advocate for men rights, you could at least try to listen or adress the points they are making. Instead of cherry picking what you’d like to answer with simplistic, non compelling arguments like. “Feminism is not doing this, LOL” Maybe you don’t really want to listen or be better informed about your opinions, you seem to want to keep your own opinion without acknowledging the other side, you can already do that in r/feminism or oth…
/r/MensRights24/08/20 05:26 PM
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I think you’re right but, wouldn’t you think that maybe some MRA’s adopt that attitude because feminism conveys the idea that women have it worse? If you don’t agree that men have it worse. Do you then think women have it worse? I would think that in reality, saying or feeling that men or women have it worse is tribalism, it is segregating people based on their gender and I don’t think tribalism is an honest reflection on the human experience. The problem is that feminism is more mainstream and …
/r/MensRights24/08/20 04:49 PM
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Women have the right to vote in most countries, and women in all “developed” countries are able to vote and have several laws protecting them. Those women who are alive now and weren’t able to vote before also had the opportunity to take on the responsibility of military service or at least alleviate men of that burden but they didn’t (Men used to be the only ones who were able to vote because they were the only ones risking their life, hence they were able to decide for a leader that wouldn’t r…
/r/MensRights24/08/20 04:40 PM
7

Stay strong, my dude, don’t buy into the bullshit. Men are far from being useless; most feminists, especially radical ones, are projecting their own shortcomings into men and the concept of “patriarchy” so they can blame others instead of trying to be better themselves. They fail to recognize themselves as violent, abusive, uncapable misandrists, so they project those characteristics onto men in general (i.e. saying “Men are misogynists”, “Men are violent and abusive”, while making hastags like …
/r/MensRights07/07/20 02:37 PM
6

I get this sentiment but if they themselves identify as feminists and go and organize marches along the “real” feminists without being singled out as “not real feminists”, How are we supposed to make the distinction? Is like the catholic church; if instead of trying to deny and protect the pedofile priests within their ranks they chastized and excomulgated those priests, nobody would associate them with pedofilia. These extremists mix alongside the normal feminists without being called out and i…
/r/PussyPassDenied27/05/20 02:08 PM
3

I am really curious why people think this is a good argument. How often do you think a man sees some random woman and thinks: There’s a woman! I should really murder her. The very existence of the term Femicide with no term existing for the other gender is baffing to me, to say the least.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/04/20 11:41 AM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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