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CMVLumpy_Secret_6359/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:49 PM
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You prove my point. Men do not want to ‘be better’ or make women happy. They want themselves to be happy, by having women as subservient bangmaids who raise their children with no complaints. They do not care if the woman is unhappy. That is why men push back on feminists. They dont want to grow with the times because in their minds they were benefitting from the patriarchy.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 12:27 PM
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Who is saying men should have zero? What is so difficult for men to grasp, you both put effort into the relationship. Both put in work. Both stay committed to each-other. Both listen to each-other and try to make each-others lives easier and better. You do not judge eachother, you try to understand eachother. Dont insult eachother, or shame eachother. Try to lift eachother up and grow together. It seems to me what men want is to have all the benefits of a relationship but without actually sacrif…
/r/MensRights12/06/25 12:23 PM
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Claiming muslim marriages show its ‘workable’ to force women into a marriage they cant escape is the exact example of why it ISN’T workable. These women in muslim marriages are controlled by the men and have higher rates of abuse.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 10:07 AM
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Men are suffering because the patriarchy is also classist
/r/MensRights12/06/25 08:46 AM
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Defeatist attitude. Theres someone for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 06:21 AM
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This is because the woman is the only one who can get pregnant, and men are in general stronger than women (women have to be wary of abuse). The ‘cost’ of a relationship is a lot higher for women (in general) than for the man. This is why women are more hesitant/picky, and it’s how we have evolved, because all through time relationships cost more to us.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/25 04:01 PM
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If theyre opting out then they are opting out, that is the consequences of opting out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 10:16 AM
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There is plenty of short men with dates and with wives. It may be a little harder as obviously the women who are taller than you are likely to dismiss you straight away but some women like short men. My mum has been married 30 years to my dad who is short. My auntie specifically only dates short guys because she finds taller men intimidating. I dated a guy who was 5’6 for 4 years. You saying your height means you cant get a date is a cop-out. It will make things potentially harder but really if …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:12 AM
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Men are so ‘solution oriented’ hence why society sees finding a solution as a mans responsibility. Women try to help them fix their problems, but they reject that help, so ok find your own solution then? Lets take the male loneliness pandemic, women suggest building friendships with other men, building platonic friendships with women, reaching out to people first, starting new hobbies etc. But what men really mean and want is that they are not getting any sex. Now if this is the actual problem, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:07 AM
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And what you are not understanding is that men are not women, women relieve a lot of stress just talking about the issue, so you saying ‘it does absolutely no good to waste time wallowing in it’ is incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:48 PM
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As a woman who offers solutions, I can say it is a lower form of empathy. You are essentially saying stop complaining and here is some things you can go off and try. To sit with someones emotions and comfort them is a lot harder to do, and you have to be open to understanding their feelings and open yourself up to feeling / imagining the same feelings they have. Which is more empathetic and a lot harder to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 08:47 AM
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Women are constantly trying to help men, they dont want to be helped. They reject help. They dont wanna go to therapy, dont wanna learn to be emotionally intelligent. Dont wanna be romantic, dont wanna learn housework and childcare. A lot of them just wanna stay exactly as they are and be accepted , but women do not wanna accept them anymore like they used to be forced to because they had to rely on them financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 08:45 AM
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I guess the people with common sense think bringing a child into this world is a bad move. & the people who dont care and are selfish or forced to through their religion / culture continue ‘this world’ onwards. No wonder humans are trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:49 PM
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Women have empathy and men lack empathy, basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:29 AM
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Theres plenty of women dating men who offer nothing. Jobless men. Men with criminal record. Girls will date boys at school who have nothing to offer. Women get married to men and sign pre-nuptial agreements.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:16 AM
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No you are doomed to a humanity of ‘male loneliness pandemic’ and a bunch of traumatised women. Which is what the state of the dating world is currently feeling. I have hope though & with each generation maybe these things will be less apparent, as mothers bring up their sons better and misogynistic traditions die.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 09:05 AM
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Women want an attractive man who is also good. Not an unattractive man who is good. Atm if you find an attractive man, they are usually fuck boys/ emotionally illiterate / cheaters / disrespectful, So bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 07:22 AM
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Because the men who complain about it dont do anything about it, to the ones who actually make an effort fair enough they have a leg to stand on. But i see a lot of overweight, broke, drug addicted, aggressive, no social skills, no hygiene, chronically online, porn addicted men who complain they arent getting sex when they have made 0 effort to improve themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 06:25 AM
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But they do have the opportunity to try, what they want is to gain that level of sex with no effort
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:58 PM
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I am shocked that Americans think 20% of households earn 1M, Ive heard of the stereotype but sheesh
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:55 PM
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Men have been in power and controlled everything and oppressed women since the dawn of time. Obviously now things are more fair, I think the obesity thing is more of a reaction to men sexualising and objectifying women for centuries and basing their value entirely on looks, just badly executed. You cant compare men being upset they no longer have the same control and power over women, with women being upset that they have been oppressed for their entire existence. What men are upset about is los…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 10:51 AM
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The men who complain about this are the ones who are fat, havent shaved or cut their hair for months, wearing the same clothes over and over etc Of course women are put off by that, and its very easily fixable. If you arent willing to put the effort in to look presentable and attractive then how can we depend on you to put the effort needed into maintaining a relationship, or bringing up children and sharing a house with you?
/r/MensRights27/05/25 04:05 PM
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They arent in poverty so no not in the same way at all, thats the whole point of why they dont bend over backwards for you. They dont need to
/r/MensRights27/05/25 06:37 AM
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Try and find a woman who hasn’t got a personal issue with a man.
/r/MensRights24/05/25 02:24 PM
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its funny you say ‘too empathetic’ why is it too much empathy? Shouldnt empathy be a basic skill everyone should learn and have. Just because women are not as oppressed anymore as we used to be, men dont like it because they cannot be selfish anymore. So they are fighting back yes because equality looks like oppression to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:31 PM
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You want the benefits of a woman without giving anything in return. Good luck with your fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:08 PM
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If I have made good friends with a guy, I wouldnt wanna risk introducing him to one of my girl friends to date. If it goes well then I could lose my girl friend & him too, say if they break up or any jealousy enters. It just makes things potentially messy if they dont work out, and I am more likely to lose from the situation than to gain. Realistically I probably would still introduce them, but this is how i have so many failed friendships from introducing people and them becoming closer to each…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 09:25 AM
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Then what you are after isn’t a relationship, it is a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 09:18 AM
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This is a bit different because you are already married and your value to eachother is clear and you have trust. Im assuming your wife knows you do not view her as a sex object so she is fine with being sexualised. What if it is the first time you met someone, they haven’t asked a single question about you other than sexual questions, and when you try to talk about something else they say ‘Im not listening, I just want sex’ now that is completely different and thats the example of someone who is…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 05:52 AM
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Men pressuring woman into sex on mass, IS oppression because you are using your power of being the physically stronger sex to intimidate the women into letting him use her body against her will for his own selfish desire, which is unjust. I dont understand what you are saying from your question. It is a problem for men thats why they are always complaining about it and why they end up SA’ing and raping women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:33 PM
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You might want to follow the conversation.. I was speaking in the context that OP gave us. A lonely man complaining that no one wants to sleep with them (that makes them unattractive as they haven’t achieved to attract anyone) saying that women should suck it up and sleep with them/lower their standards for them, and that they are oppressed. So in response to that the person is saying ‘forcing me to sleep with someone unattractive is worse than your issue of being sexless’ because we are speakin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:02 AM
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No im pretty sure OP was saying, if you are a lonely man with no sex then thats nothing compared to being forced into sex with someone unattractive (eg the lonely man). So basically telling them to suck it up , you arent oppressed we just dont want to sleep with you and shouldnt have to just because you are lonely and think that we should and that its not that much to ask for.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:46 AM
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Who said that though?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:56 PM
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true, but whats your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:19 PM
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Your argument is ‘dont have sex with people who dont arouse you’ which is exactly what OP is saying. So I dont know why you are quoting her as if you are disagreeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:39 PM
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Unfortunately men rape women and coerce/ pressure them into sex all the time, dont take no for an answer and use violence/manipulation to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 01:44 PM
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Yes women who split financials are somewhat competition, but only if the man you want cares more about saving his money/getting the best deal/ wants his partner to work, than the relationship and family unit. & Thats the type of man I’m trying to avoid, so I guess it weeds them out. I think men who provide you have to be wary of as-well though because some have bad intentions, like they want complete control of your money and therefor you, or they think all they have to do is bring the money and…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:58 AM
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oh come on that stuffs very very rarely happens and it would be pretty obvious from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:00 PM

28 is old enough to know what you want and understand life more, the gap im talking about is 18-early twenty year olds compared to men 40+. they would be wildly different in maturity. An 18 year old girl and a 28 year old man would also be an age gap too big for the same reasons. I do think its slightly odd as she is a lot younger than you but no where near as bad as if she was 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:59 PM
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Obviously the woman is miserable in her marriage, if she was madly in love and happy then she wouldnt want a divorce??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:31 PM
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You know 18 is just a made up number of becoming ‘legal’ right? in some countries the legal age is 11, 12 and 13. If you lived there you would say them age people are ok to sleep with and ‘arent kids’ either. You just wanna be validated and excused for your horny-predator mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 07:00 AM
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Its creepy because you’re in different life stages, you wouldnt have a group of friends that age because you talk about different things and they would feel immature and youd feel out of touch with them. Its exactly the same with a young girl except you dont care about not being compatible personality-wise or maturity-wise because you want to have sex with her. You are acting like a father figure except you also want to have sex with her and thats the ‘taking advantage/creepy’ part. Find someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 06:54 AM

Raising a child alone is not a breeze in the park like you imagine. The woman suffers enough just by the man abandoning her and the baby, even when hes paying child support. Also yes you may want to ‘punish’ the mother for sleeping with someone who doesnt want the baby, but the baby is going to be the one who suffers (or dies) in poverty with no support. The baby is vulnerable (like a disabled person) The baby is the reason child support exists. It isnt for the mother, it just happens that the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 08:15 AM

That is barbaric and imposes on your human rights to have autonomy over your body. I understand in theory this would make the most logical sense. But because the baby is INSIDE the mother, you cannot just ‘remove it’ easily without the mothers consent. I think men just need to step up and be fathers. If you have sex with a woman understand you have no control over whether the woman decides to keep it or not, so be careful who you choose to sleep with. Wear protection. I think its a good thing to…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:38 AM

That is like saying, disabled people who cant work should just suffer in poverty because they should work if they want money. You dont seem to understand that the mother is usually out of work to look after it. One salary is not enough to look after the baby nowadays. Your solution is to let mother and baby live in poverty. The government is not going to let that happen (if it did it could lead to civil war) Like I said the money is coming from somewhere, I would say its unfair to let the tax pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:19 AM

These men do not walk around with their intentions on display. Young women are vulnerable, naive and inexperienced. Men prey on younger women as they can be easily manipulated, and they know their weaknesses. Women are attracted to a lot of traits that unfortunately can be used for evil (confidence, assertiveness, dominance, power, strength) men know what to do (love bombing, gifts, praise, compliments, lying) . Women need to be protected not left to the lions. The government tries to protect us…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:50 PM

In an ideal world it makes sense what you are saying, but in reality the money to support the child had to come from somewhere. The baby is dependant on the mother so she cant work, and also women usually get paid less to begin with. This would mean there would be heaps of children and single mothers who need to rely on the government for money… Now you see why there is this law. Easier coming out of the fathers pocket than the economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:41 PM

Not enough money, someone has to look after the baby (mother) so out of work/ has to give up career. It does work both ways, if the mother walked out and left the baby with the father then she would have to pay child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:36 PM

it is not ethical for a child to be born from someone who doesnt want them, and theres no one there who wants them. All it would do is lead to more children in care. Do you think they have good quality of life? A child deserves 2 loving parents. Its unethical to force a woman to carry and birth a child thats gonna be abandoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 08:07 PM

In that case why cant baby survive when its removed from the mother? We do have the right to decide hence why abortions are legal, and its not a person its some cells the size of ur finger nail.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 06:42 PM

Because every body is different? Some people have no morning sickness some women have severe morning sickness physically throwing up. These people may have lots of health issues and assume the symptoms are down to something else. They may have high pain tolerance. Many reasons. Also the baby comes out the vagina not the butthole.. The difference is the babys not effecting your body by the time its been born, if its in your body in the first stage then you can prevent carrying for 9months and all…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 06:38 PM

Because the murderer is not the person who chooses whether the woman stays pregnant or not? It is her body so only her choice. If anyone else kills the baby without her permission then its murder. The baby is an extension of the mother until its born, and its the mother’s responsibility to decide what happens to it. Only hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 06:28 PM
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If the man wants to make the detrimental choice of having unprotected sex then yes he has to suffer the consequences? He is an adult, he knows sex = baby. The baby has no choice in being born. All babies are adults responsibility to raise into healthy adults. Women die in pregnancy and childbirth, it crushes your organs, they lose gallons of blood, they scream while in labour, they need morphine for the pain, you basically have a baby-sized parasite feeding off you for 9 months that you have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:11 PM
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This just wouldnt work in reality. The baby is dependant on its mother so in many cases she is out of work, who is going to pay for the baby? The government? Ok then taxes are going to be raised significantly to cover all of the babies who need paying for. The government know this. It makes more sense for them to receive the payments from the actual father of the baby, than the rest of the population who would be angry their taxes are raised to provide for a baby thats not theres. Also would enc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:03 PM
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You dont pay child support from conception. A fetus isnt a baby, it isnt conscious and cant survive outside the mothers body. It needs the mothers body to survive and feed off, causing lots of risks to the mother. If a mother ops out it is because she is prioritising her body and life over a ball of cells, which if the mother is not ready to birth and raise would be detrimental to the baby. The mother cannot kill her baby once it is actually born. That is a massive crime actually. Unfortunately …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 08:21 AM

I see the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 09:42 PM
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Simple, if dating apps are causing men to struggle then stop using them and approach women IRL like all ur ancestors had to do
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 04:13 PM
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I learnt more about feminism, realised how oppressive red pill is to women, how it only serves men and is disguised as helping both genders
/r/ExRedPill24/03/25 01:13 PM
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Because the things men find attractive are traits of a sex slave. Its insulting. When women are independently successful they find all excuses to not date them, when really its because they dont want an equal they want someone they see as inferior to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 07:48 AM
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not really, having a pet is close
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 07:54 AM
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no because they get rewards for being a dad
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 08:36 PM
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what are you on about? there is plenty of women who do these infact the majority of the older relationships ive seen in my life have been this way (I live in UK) peoples parents etc their dynamics are always the woman doing everything and the man only has to work and do some DIY. Even in my own relationship I am expected to give sex whenever he wants , expected to do the cooking and cleaning. If i dont he gets agitated with me. If i had a child with him he would definitely expect me to do majori…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:18 PM
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Nothing wrong with consensual sex, I have an active sex life and i’m in a relationship. I fear unwanted men wanting to have sex with me and forcing themselves upon me/raping me, which happens too often to women and children because men cannot control their animalistic impulses. When did I say men should just ‘be themselves’, that is awful advice. No one should because human nature if left to their own devices is unfair and causes lots of suffering, this is why children need parenting, to be taug…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:14 PM
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men prioritise themselves, not women, not kids, themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:26 PM
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‘a man who is genuinely interested in you will also want to have sex with you’ - Thats a great thing for women! Knowing that any man who shows interest just wants to fuck us. That is exactly my point, this is NOT a good thing for us, it is actually heartbreaking and terrifying, and you wonder why more women want to avoid men and why men end up lonely. Also, what man has ‘no tries at the plate’, women exist everywhere, you are telling me you cant find a single woman who enjoys your presence? The …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 01:22 PM
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Women have it easier in getting laid, not about relationships. Women are objectified in all sources of entertainment (social media, TV, news) expected to be a bang maid, purpose of a wife is to raise the mans kids and keep things and people clean tidy and fed. Of course also being available for sex whenever the husband wants. & being sexually reserved virgins (non-sluts) while also giving sex to undesirable bums (male loneliness pandemic) Men complain about their time in dating because to them i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 08:14 AM
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I think this is because men generally initiate sex a lot more than women so women are not as enthusiastic / want it as much as he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 09:37 AM
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What you have explained to me, is that men are intimidated by career woman because they have traits that challenge the man. The man wants a submissive wife who never criticises or argues back and all the other stuff you said. Why is that? Because he doesnt want to be challenged, he doesnt want to be told a different possibly better way of doing things, doesnt want to have constructive but difficult conversations with his wife. Instead he wants a doormat who doesnt have her own opinions and if sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:37 PM
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Obviously career success does not mean you will be a good partner, but the commenter I replied to seemed to think successful women were ‘repulsive’. This is what I am confused about. I dont understand why a woman who is successful automatically becomes repulsive to men? Because to me that does sound like its a problem with the mans ego rather than with the woman’s success. Also, I dont think women strive to have a good career because they want to attract a partner, I think they do it because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 01:54 PM
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You are grouping successful women into the same group as sexually unsuccessful men. Success is a good thing across the board, it means you have learnt skills, have put lots of effort in, can be disciplined, commit to something, perseverance, intelligence etc Being an incel is notoriously a negative thing, a lot of men think their value is shown in how much sex they can get. Being attractive to women is what straight men strive for, so lacking this is seen as bad. So how are they comparable? You …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 10:33 AM
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Women who put in effort show that they are not lazy, and are willing to sacrifice their time, energy, money, and thoughts in order to impress others or maintain their image. Cooking, cleaning, emotional labour, childcare, pregnancy, loyalty, commitment, selflessness, organising, shopping are all things men desire in a woman where she needs to sacrifice herself. Whether this is intrinsically motivated or externally motivated, the results are the same, a woman who does a lot. She will be capable o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:53 AM
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Mens bad dating experience = get no attention from anyone. Womens bad dating experience = sexual assault, rape, isolation, controlled, spoken down to, emotionally abused, insulted, trapped, scared for your life. Men have bad experience yes but the most they have to worry about is getting 0 attention. Women have to deal with misogynistic men who just wanna use them for sex and feel powerful next to. Of course there are abusive women too but id say on average there is way more abusive men out ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:23 AM
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& Which women would you attract by doing this? were they good women you would want to settle down with? or women from broken families who doesnt know how love should be shown, low self esteem, argumentative, naive etc
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:41 AM
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Women want good men, the bad men disguise themselves as good men and when young naive women start dating they are easily manipulated and dont fully understand mens intentions. They take more risks and think they can ‘tame’ the men. With experience the women can spot the actors and know not to ignore red flags and not to take the bait. The men may be fun but it’s temporary and dangerous. They learn peace is better in a relationship, and some men its not worth your energy to ‘fix’ them and so choo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:48 PM
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You have one life. Are you gonna let fear dictate it
/r/ExRedPill02/03/25 01:32 PM

‘the burden of good sex’ is sex a burden now? Men are the first to say its a ‘need’ and complain and pressure women to sleep with them, yet when we say learn sex skills you say thats a burden and you dont want to do it. Well then expect no sex. Porn for women exists, theres countless sex experts online you can watch and read about. If you wanted to improve in the bedroom as a man , you can because majority of men are selfish and have done no research what so ever on what a women likes in bed. Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 09:04 AM
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my boss is a woman firstly, and we get on really well she is the best boss ive had. & I don’t particularly work hard either, I’m on minimum wage so I work at my own pace. I definitely treat my romantic partners way better and put my absolute all into them. I dont think you are understanding what I mean. Its the RECIPROCATION that is missing. I see no problem with giving ur body, emotional labour, time and energy, IF its being reciprocated. But men will DO NOTHING and still feel entitled to every…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:00 PM
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Not at all. I said men think they are ENTITLED to a womans body, emotional labour, time, and energy. Meaning, they do not appreciate it, and they feel they dont have to put in any effort/work to recieve these things from their wife. They do not share the burden of these jobs, because they believe thats the purpose of having a wife/gf, and that they are entitled to it because they are the husband. (not all men but a lot) A successful marriage will have BOTH partners putting in effort and work, sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:01 PM

We would choose these less attractive men to have a relationship with, if it didnt involve letting them have sex with us. If we are repulsed by you we dont wanna sleep with you. Part of a relationship that men care about the most is sex. So in order for us to give that to a man, we need to find them attractive. You cant force attraction and women just find a smaller amount of men attractive than vice versa so thats why there is a difference, men will fuck anything. Men are happy to choose a 3/10…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:35 PM
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OP is saying their ‘good’ advice for women is for them to lower their standards. I am arguing, if you want to have superficial standards then go for it, because a lot of these men aren’t gonna bring much else to the table. At least you will find them sexually attractive, have good experienced sex, will have money, status, will have interesting convos, wide social circle etc. Rather than lowering your standards, and then feeling bad because you even lowered your standards to find someone ‘good’ a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:21 PM
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You are living in cuckoo land if you think this. Simply look at your married family and friends and colleagues and ask them who does the majority of the things I have listed above, mostly its the women! its conditioned in us since birth. Im not saying men are not more emotionally stable, maybe yes because they suppress their real emotions. But anger is a socially accepted way for men to express their emotions, which scares women into submission. Which is why we end up doing all the work at home.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:08 PM
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Bad advice for women. Men think they are entitled to a woman’s body, emotional labour, time, energy. A lot of them expect the woman to tidy up after them, clean, housework, raise the kids (and the husband) cook, ready for sex 24/7, shopping, remember presents and events, hosting prep, and now bring a full time income in as-well. Women end up with men like this ALL THE TIME. Women, I suggest keeping these high standards.. do not listen to the mens manipulation that tries to brainwash you into thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:21 AM
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Yes I agree with that, if someone doesnt want to stay in a relationship for whatever reason it is they can leave. Does that mean I think its fair and you’re a good person for leaving your partner if they get diagnosed with cancer? absolutely not. You would be an awful person, BUT you should be able to make that decision for yourself. Same with everything else. & that person who is left will make peace quicker by having the mindset of they are free to do whatever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 09:06 AM

Personally, the reason I wouldnt want my spouse being emotionally sexual with other women: 1) id be worried the temptation would be too much and it would lead to something physical 2) physical sex is too high of a risk incase he leaves me for her/ gets her pregnant/ prefers her/ catches an STD/ she catches feelings and wants to get rid of me/ less sex with me / removes intimacy and bonding between us/ sexual performance issues like we see in men who watch porn 3) He would value me less and could…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:52 PM
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The fact you think having high status means disrespecting those you love is extremely worrying! High status means you are respected by everyone, positive to be around, you have high integrity, reliability, competency, have a lot of social connections, willing to sacrifice for your woman, listen to her, high self esteem and secure in yourself. I think hypergamy is due to men putting on a show when we first meet them. It is true, women aim upwards, but when in the relationship those same men actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 11:08 AM
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If you are friendzoned you never had a chance anyway. If I am attracted to one of my friends and he makes a move im not gonna reject him. So if you do get rejected its cos they always would have rejected you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:58 AM
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Some people are evil and do this, but there is plenty and plenty of good people out there who do not prey on vulnerable people to take advantage of them… and its pretty scary you think everyone operates like that. You are definately wrong about that too, go and actually ask women why they divorced their husbands, they are not gonna say its because they ‘stopped going to the gym’ or ‘opened up to me’. They are gonna say its because they were useless and the woman gained nothing from the relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:50 AM
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This is exactly how I feel as a woman. I am young and beautiful, in my fertile years, have put so much work into being the best version of myself, to handle conflict, to learn how to communicate, to show up as the best partner I can be. I am willing to sacrifice a lot for a good partner and happy family. I am scared too. With all of them statistics, it makes me think whoever I end up with will make my life hell on earth to the point I have to divorce them and break my family, after sacrificing m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 08:00 AM

Whether its a need or not, the way men use this statement is to argue/guilt trip/coerce women into having sex with them when they dont want to. If you admit its a need, now what? Does that mean you now HAVE to give sex to a partner even if you dont want to? Does that mean we have to legalise marital rape? Does that mean any women who doesnt want to have sex is ‘depriving’ their partner and ‘neglecting’ them? Does it mean we are bad partners because we dont ‘need’ to have sex? By saying its a nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 08:29 AM
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That is so untrue. women like confidence, honesty, humour, humility, intelligence, kindness, maturity, respect, healthy masculinity, someone who listens, someone who doesnt judge, someone who makes them feel safe/protects them, STATUS AND MONEY AND HEALTH. Yes some people are born with higher levels of these things naturally, other people have to learn them. Men are bitter because they are not born with these natural attractive traits and they realise to get women they have to learn these things…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 08:04 AM
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You are right, but when these men blame women, are misogynistic, feel entitled to sex, rape women or become violent members of society because of it, then they are a danger and thats what the problem women have with that attitude is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:25 PM
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they are dying early because they haven’t put the effort in, why should they deserve a long life if they aren’t going to do things to look after their health? They are making the choice to not participate in the things they ‘need’ to do to attract a sex partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:19 PM
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im disagreeing with it. sex isnt a need
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:36 PM
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thats why theres the saying ‘nice guys finish last’
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:08 PM
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Because intimacy requires another person, if nobody wants to be intimate with you, then you would have to force someone (rape). So obviously this is a rejected idea? You are saying rape is okay because a man ‘needs’ sex. You are prioritising another mans wants (because thats what it is) over a woman’s autonomy over her body. If you ‘need’ sex that bad. GOOD. That is what drives and motivates society to become better, that is why competition and hierarchy has evolved. If you dont want to particip…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:00 PM

If you dont get the blood transfusion, YOU DIE. If you dont get HIV treatment, YOU DIE. If you dont get sex, you sulk. Its not a ‘need’. You arent gonna die without sex. Also prostitutes exist everywhere right now so I dont understand your point? Your hand exists? Porn exists? Sex toys exist? You are just sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:51 PM
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Women would like these acts if done by men who were kind and caring outside of the bedroom, who makes them feel completely safe. Who listens and learns what sort of ‘roughness’ they like. Usually a guy wanting to be ‘rough’ with you is because they are misogynistic and they are hate fucking you/ disrespectful towards you, and this reflects in how they treat you outside the bedroom. & Usually a man like this is not listening to you or being considerate of what ‘roughness’ is good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:04 PM
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Its always been this way throughout all of history. Life as a man is competitive. Dont forget we are in in the animal kingdom, males typically have to perform and win over the females. It is built into our biology. You cant blame women for this. If you really wanted to be good at golf, what would you do? You would read about it, watch videos, practise, until you were good at it. Some men are naturally better at golf, but the best golfers have just put a lot of time and energy into becoming the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 07:18 AM
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I gave him a good chance, was with him for over a year, but you cant force yourself to find someone physically attractive, thats why its bad advice. The scenario you mentioned would also effect the mans view of women as well. I would avoid dating an extremely handsome man for that reason too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:38 PM
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Men can make themselves look better, but don’t put the effort in. Dont have a skin care routine, wear the same clothes everyday, dont get haircuts often, stay on top of personal hygiene etc. Typically women put way more effort into appearance you must admit. This is also bad advice. If you are going to have sex with this person you need to be physically attracted to them. I have made the mistake of giving a man I didnt find that attractive a chance and all it meant is we had a difficult sex life…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:16 AM
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If all you bring to the table is undesirable behaviour (using women as free therapist and a flesh light) then women will sense this and not want you, call u out for shittyness, and ur relationships wont last. If you are a ‘chad’, and you bring this undesirable behaviour, a woman will see what else you bring to the table, if they have 100 other desirable behaviours, they then have to decide whether its WORTH the bad behaviour to have access to the good behaviour. Of course these women do not want…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 10:55 AM

Yes like during moments of grieving, which is what I already spoke about. If a woman is acting repulsed by you grieving rather than supporting you through it then thats not someone you want to partner with. I dont think the average man cries every month, this would probably cause un- attraction as it shows mental instability. Once a year is fine imo?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 10:23 AM
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I dont think crying all the time is healthy for any gender. But if you are the type of man who loves to cry then you shouldnt choose a woman who is turned off by crying, you should go for a woman who is also emotionally expressive and thinks its fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:43 PM
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I dont think its a perfectly normal biological response. The usual response when you see someone cry is to comfort them, especially someone you love.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:32 PM
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We all are gonna have times like that, you will have deaths of loved ones and go through the hardest times with your partner. They are the one person you can be that vulnerable with. You want someone you can do that with so if the woman loses attraction over that then she doesnt love you and shes not the right person for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:51 PM
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I dont know what your talking about? If a woman is in a relationship with a man she obviously trusts he’s not the minority?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:47 PM
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So you try once with your partner, and it isn’t received well so you never try again. Why give up on trying to communicate healthy with this person you love and expect to spend the rest of your life with. It takes time to learn each other, you want someone you can be yourself around and who will support you and make things better through the stress of life. I dont know why youd give up so easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:43 PM
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If the person you are with is toxic, and gonna shame you for showing healthy communication why would you wanna be with her? & if you are with someone healthy, why sabotage that by being unhealthy back?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:37 PM
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That is not good advice. You go and tell your wife you have gone to a female friend for emotional support over her and see how much this hurts her, or do it behind her back which is even worse, some would even class this as cheating. If you have a lot of unprocessed trauma to unpack that you cant speak about without a strong emotional reaction then yes a therapist should be visited. But overall with normal day to day life challenges, you should be able to be open and vulnerable and discuss these…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 02:43 PM
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I dont know what women you are dating (or how old you are) but that is an immature and unhealthy reaction to when someone you love has opened up to you, and they are bound to be in unhappy relationships until that reaction is fixed. You can either change your behaviour to ‘match’ that unhealthy reaction, by suppressing your emotions and being closed off, leading to you becoming an emotionally unhealthy partner, or you can see her reaction for what it is, which is unreasonable and unloving, and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 02:26 PM
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Well obviously in an ideal world your partner will always be happy in a good mood with no issues. But that is not reality, humans DO have emotions, life IS difficult. You are telling someone to not be human in your comment, this is impossible, if you are stressed from something you are going to react somehow to that stress, either you tell your wife whats going on in a healthy way like I put in my comments, or you (unhealthily) explode or suppress your emotions which lead to many more problems a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 02:05 PM
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Well done for taking the time and effort to understand the psychology in relationships. Good luck to you and your partner 👏🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:27 AM
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What usually happens is men suppress their emotions all the time, they get into a relationship, something happens that ‘triggers’ them and a FLOOD of uncontrollable strong emotions come out. This is not what a woman means when she wants someone who is open & vulnerable. What she means is she wants you to be honest with her about what you are going through emotionally, but not to burden her / scare her with an overwhelm of irrational emotions, or attack her. For example ‘hey honey I am really str…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:45 AM
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The vast majority of men ARE capable, they just choose to not put the effort in. Much like majority of us could become rich but we choose not to, for various reasons. People dont like hearing this because it means we cannot play victim to life experiences. There is someone out there who got dealt worse cards than you in life who is in a relationship, someone worse off than you who made it rich. Saying men are not capable you are taking their power and accountability away. There are many sources …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 03:02 PM
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women choose men who put effort into themselves, their appearance, their hygiene, who puts the time and effort in to learn skills such as listening, kindness, respect, emotional intelligence, integrity, patience etc. which is being a GOOD human. You are upset we are not desired to partner up with someone who is going to hinder our lives and make things difficult with conflicts that you dont have the skills to resolve. To be treated badly, misunderstood and dismissed and to want our children to i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:54 AM
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I think they obviously know man-made is saying human-made but their point is they think it is a patriarchal term purposely calling it ‘man’ to exclude women, but actually man in this sense comes from the word ‘mann’ in germanic which means ‘person’. They are uneducated.
/r/MensRights20/01/25 10:01 PM
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yes. studies show single women have higher life satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 04:10 PM
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Actually having a committed long term partner as a woman DOES NOT ensure your protection. A lot of the time they are the source of your pain and fear (if you choose wrong). Hence ‘hyper-independence’ is a chosen route for a lot of women, to escape the potential abuse men put us through.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:44 PM
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because they care about protecting themselves and having status so other men respect them. not because they care about protecting random women, that is a bi-product.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:57 PM
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Women are very vocal to their partners about what they can improve on and what they want. Men call this nagging. Men choose to dismiss their partner and pretend they are working on issues when they actually dont care because it is not directly effecting them, only their woman. The woman brings up the same problems over and over and the man does nothing about it! Eventually the woman gets tired and leaves. & the man suddenly realises ‘oh the problem she has brought to me a hundred times , IS actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 10:17 PM
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Well many women apply the standards they have for themselves to men. for example I put in emotional work to understand myself better, learn to communicate better, take up new hobbies, read, watch educational videos, learn about relationship dynamics, in general wanting to improve the person I am. So naturally would expect a man to do the same. It is only through experience Ive realised a lot of men are just happy with their current selves with no motivation to level up (despite promising women t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 09:51 PM
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Is it the same vice versa that is why women take interest in mens hobbies, ask them questions, listen to them talk about it, buy them stuff for it as presents. But a lot of men laugh about womens hobbies, and say they arent interested if they try to speak about it or show excitement over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 09:43 PM
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A-lot of women hold onto the hope the man will change and that they can change them over time , that they will improve and grow and step up the way us women do. Many men stay stagnant and women realise this years down the line when its too late when they get exhausted from giving everything emotionally till theres none left
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 11:49 AM
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If you are going to be in a relationship with a woman then you need to be able to interact with her in a way she likes or shes gonna pick someone who will 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 11:46 AM
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Same vice versa, If you are in a relationship it comes with sacrifices from BOTH genders. Women tend to be fine with sacrificing for love but the men do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 11:44 AM
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Society is built by MEN we live in a patriarchy my friend 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 11:41 AM
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So you would humiliate yourself infront of the class for social validation and then confused that no girls wanted to date you, just think about that. It was ‘a lot of work trying to entertain others’ well first off, you are ‘working’ to gain the wrong type of interest, people to laugh AT you. Secondly, if you aren’t naturally attractive to women of course you will have to work for it, most men have to work for it. It has been like this forever, only now in modern day is it an issue as we have al…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 11:36 AM
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a lot of men want a woman they can control, who shuts up and puts out, who does all the housework and emotional labour and raising children, and now they want them to have a full time job too to bring money in
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 11:22 AM
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probably referring to why we have a ‘male loneliness pandemic’ and why the stereotype for young men is chilling in their mothers basement playing videogames and watching corn. It is because men do not bother with socializing or care as much about psychology/people and inherently more selfish. This causes a problem with women as women usually like making an effort, receiving social validation, desire to nurture their relationships deeper. But some men just want to stay surface level with everyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:57 AM
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So men hear ‘boring nice guy’ and think that the only other option a man can be is a ‘chad’ so basically a toxic pump and dumper scared to commit. Your reducing men to two only two shitty personalities no woman wants. We want a man who is fun, makes us laugh, makes us excited, treats us well, isnt selfish in bed, and who doesnt cheat or abuse us. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:48 AM

Unfortunately being in a relationship requires you listen to your partners problems, offer them support/advice/reassurance, you compromise and discuss a lot of topics openly (not just ‘what i want goes’) Money expenses are shared at minimum and you are expected to be generous as you are supposed to love that person and want to make them happy. You sound like you are far too selfish for a relationship. & you are delusional if you think women dont sacrifice in relationships. we sacrifice our bodie…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:45 AM
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what female gender roles are abolished? women still do the majority of housework/cooking/childcare/ emotional labour. The only difference is we now have to work a job too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 12:46 PM
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the difference in that example is mcdonalds is bad for your mental & physical health but sex is necessary for mens mental & physical health and is signs of a healthy relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 10:45 AM
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mens worth is nothing to do with how much sex they have, thats just how easily they can get a woman to sleep with them (same goes for women their value isnt on how many people they can sleep with). theres plenty of manipulative evil worthless men that get lots of sex. id say the true value of a man depends on how healthy his relationships are. that shows if he is a good moral person who is dependable and reliable. this man may not get sex but his value is way higher than the douche who can get l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:03 AM
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If you dont have a job, who’s paying for you? Is that not slavery for whoevers paying for you?
/r/MensRights18/09/24 08:43 AM
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Women have the right to enjoy it with no consequences because they are the ones in control of having the morning after pill or an abortion, men are 100% accountable because they are 100% aware they have no control once the sperm meets the egg in what happens to that baby. They take the chance KNOWING the consequences KNOWING they have no control over what happens if she falls pregnant. Would you jump in a cage with a cute tiger to pet it and then complain when it bites you? No because you know t…
/r/MensRights18/09/24 08:30 AM
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one guy did it with me, it worked, made me chase him more, but i felt shit and i lowkey hated him and resented him about it. it made me pull away (although my mind was swamped with him) i was distant and cold, because i didnt want to compete with other women. it made me feel insecure and I would compare myself to other girls. I knew me and him would never work long term because I couldnt deal with the attention from other girls he was getting and rubbing in my face. In the end it got too much fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 06:01 PM
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its because we want a guy whos already got everything. if we are teaching a man how to have sex then we are the leaders in that situation, we are the dominant ones, and they are failing at something- which is unattractive. and because its sex related that is even more so unattractive and unsexy. We want someone whos gonna grab us and take control but in that situation we’d be the ones in control. Most girls wanna be submissive in bed which means the guy has to know what hes doing. & its a turn o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:49 AM
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both
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 05:01 PM
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I would offer to pay for whatever i got, if he insisted on still paying then I would let him pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 04:58 PM
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this is so true. with an ex i barely wanted to have sex with him cos i wasnt attracted to him, id make up lots of excuses, if the sex is bad too i can see why a woman wouldnt wanna participate in it. but if there is an attractive guy and hes good at sex, guaranteed if the woman was healthy etc like you said then yes of course theyd have a higher sex drive and want it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 11:32 AM
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the average UK women size is a 14 actually
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 09:48 PM
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no, im a UK size 6-8
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 08:18 AM
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id say I am an above average woman. Just not in my career because I dont have desires for that. More housewife or emotional things
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 12:33 PM
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women are not motivated as much as men by work, we are less competitive, less likely to want to be leaders, care more about home than work https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation.aspx?paperid=73226 i know in modern society women are getting higher working positions, but just because it CAN be done doesnt mean its desirable for us (as a generalisation) we arent built for it like men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:34 PM
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i dont but im not a man. I have no desire to as a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:58 AM
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if i was a man id be so successful
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 12:14 PM
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Whats hard about making him wait a few weeks- He doesn’t want to wait. so men will put you in situations where its hard to turn down, or make you feel like you owe them it at the end of the night, or kiss you and touch you to try to turn you on so that you give in. or theyll sweet talk you into it. if you’re a submissive girl and wants to please and make a good impression then you can easily be manipulated by men to sleep with them, especially when sex is fun. If you like them you don’t want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 08:30 PM
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what are your reasons for rejecting women with a high bodycount? is it because you think they will cheat? is it because you think they will have more heartbreak so more insecurity? is it because you dont wanna be compared to other guys in sex? is it because you want to be special?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 06:45 PM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 06:33 PM
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again thats not whats being asked. Do you think men should be judged the way women currently are, for having a high bodycount?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 06:29 PM
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I think its more so asking, do you think men should be treated the same when it comes to them having high body counts, and slut shamed the way women do, and turned down the way women are if they have a high bc
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 06:13 PM
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men just wanna get out of doing everything
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 03:53 PM
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women are not motivated as much as men by work, we are less competitive, less likely to want to be leaders, care more about home than work https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation.aspx?paperid=73226 i know in modern society women are getting higher working positions, but just because it CAN be done doesnt mean its desirable for us (as a generalisation) we arent built for it like men are. let us be house wifes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:21 PM
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Things are expensive now a days, you cant live off the average income if only one person is earning it. & its even difficult if two people are earning average income full time. Me for example, i want to be a good mother, and be there for my children, and be able to be present at home to take care of house duties/my husband. If i settled with a man on average income, i wouldnt be able to do this. therefore i want someone who earns more than average so that I can have the life i want and also my c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:28 PM
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women initiate most break ups and divorce, so im not sure u can compare men staying in bad sex relationships to women staying, men in general just seem to have a lower threshold for staying in a relationship. Also in sex, a lot of positions the man does most of the work. So a guy being bad at bed is different to a woman as a lot of time the women doesnt do much anyway. Guys usually orgasm 99% of the time during sex, women do not. therefor men are easily more satisfied sexually. even if they have…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:41 AM
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This is a reason for women not liking sex workers, but i think its very low on the list of reasons why they are against sex work. Other reasons include- feeling like women are being ‘forced’ to have sex with unattractive men so that they can afford the life they want (its a choice still but if you take away the money they wouldnt be doing it, so its still selling your body in the most intimate way you can which is unethical), health/danger concerns for the women. Intrasexual competition amongst …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 11:02 AM
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women naively believe that even if they see a guy is there just for sex, that they can change their view of themselves in him because they think they are better than the other girls he sleeps with. so will stay around hoping that he will fall for her
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 12:09 PM
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men are attracted to novelty. he is probably just so used to you that u dont turn him on as much as someone new. maybe wear a wig and change ur clothes and try some roleplay where ur a different character or something
/r/RedPillWomen06/12/22 07:29 PM
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where does it say she slept with people for money?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 02:00 PM
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Out of all the responses i’ve read, yours is the best. thanks for your input
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 09:01 AM
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im 22F. I based my post on books I have read and podcasts I have listened to like for example the evolution of desire by David Buss. theres obviously exceptions but im talking about in general what women and men find attractive- from studies and data backing up these things. Like people have said as an argument to my first point ‘girls can do this too’ yeah of course they can, but it holds more value to a woman than a man when they’re looking for a long term mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 08:28 AM
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If you’re repulsed by something she cannot now control, please leave her. she deserves someone who will accept her for who she is bodycount and all, and love her regardless. Not be lying next to her feeling repulsed by her. Go and find a naive low bodycount woman to be with instead
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 07:53 AM
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im 22F. don’t quite get why a guy would write this? and you cant just claim I have weak arguments without making your own argument back :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:48 PM
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im 22
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:30 PM
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I wasnt being sarcastic, I appreciate your knowledge, thankyou I will be purchasing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:25 PM
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please let me know which books as id be very interested to read them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:57 PM
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I cant fathom that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 09:32 PM
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the real question is WHO WOULDNT do that? sounds like the ideal life
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 08:49 PM
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in that case, lying is also an instinct (search it up) ingrained in our DNA. As modern humans we realise its immoral so go against our instincts and try not to lie. Men should apply this to promiscuity, and realise its immoral to judge a woman on her sexual past. One day in time it served a purpose, but not anymore (we have birth control and paternity tests now) If you’re not going to go against your instincts through self-rationalisation to do this, don’t expect women to go against their instin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 05:50 PM
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by telling the truth, the guy is less likely to be willing to be there for you until death do you part. ur sabotaging your chances. thats why women lie. they dont need to lie to ONS because they dont care whether they stay or not. people are always gonna manipulate to get what they want, its unethical but true. theres plenty of things men will manipulate and lie to women about that they see as long term partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 02:15 PM
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yes its shitty to lie, but I also think its shitty that a man would judge a woman based on her past sexual experiences in modern day society, and discriminate against her for it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 01:58 PM
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I dont think a one night stand is getting any respect? its just a human dildo remember? why men think easy sex= respect is beyond me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 12:49 PM
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yeah i understand youve said that like a million times now. thats because men are interested in sex which you can get from a short term partner. women are interested in commitment which is only in a long term partner. If you could only get sex from a long term partner, then men would lie to the long term partner. If you could only get commitment from a short term partner, then women would lie to the short term partner. it just so happens what men want is EASIER to get than what a woman wants (ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 12:39 PM
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my final response to that will be: women will stop lying about themselves to get long term commitment, when men stop lying to women to get sex
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 12:26 PM
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if by men treating the person they want a relationship with better than someone they just wanted to fuck, didnt work and was more likely to push the woman away. then they wouldnt do it. it just so happens what THEY want (sex) is easier to obtain from a short term partner, what women want (commitment) obviously requires something long term to fulfil.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 12:23 PM
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so if woman A is in a long term relationship and has sex 100 times, and woman B has slept with with 30 different guys only 30 times. woman A has had way more sex but apparently woman B is ‘worse’ and will be discarded/used. doesnt really make sense. If what your worried about in a partner is an STD, you can use protection or let them get tested. so thats irrelevant too. The problem lies because we have evolved without birth control, so therefor women were more picky with who they sleep with (sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 11:57 AM
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if by a woman treating their partner more honestly ruins their chances of being with them, and increases their chances of being used for sex and not taken seriously (with someone they want to take seriously, have feelings for etc) why would they do it.. im not saying its moral, its just a dating strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 11:39 AM
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and also thats not even including the hypocrisy, which I think is the main element. Imagine that woman said that she used to smoke! but she still wont date anyone that touched a cigarette. you might think, well thats fucking unfair. how come shes allowed but not me, that might provoke you to not feel bad about lying
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 11:08 AM
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Thats the same with all genders. If you care about someones opinion of you, and you know they will be disappointed hearing a certain thing. you’re not gonna tell them that thing.. & if its something they will never find out about, some people will lie. Its not a ‘woman’ thing at all. lets say used to smoke as a teenager, and the person your with is really against smoking and says she will never be with someone who smoked. are you gonna tell her you used to smoke? probably not. now apply that to …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 11:04 AM
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I get what your saying, I would argue that they arent ‘treating’ the men (human dildos as you put it), better than the men they want to be in a LTR with. the only thing them men would be getting is easier sex. and both exchange would be equal, they’re using each other for sex. A (good) woman will provide, emotional support, completion of chores,affection, encouragement, nurturing, loyalty and commitment & more.. to a man they want as a bf. and its not like they’re never going to have sex with yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 10:56 AM
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hmmm not necessarily. They may have slept with someone before as a one night stand or if they were drunk, also guys can be very pressuring when it comes to sex and submissive girls might give in even if they don’t really want to. I dont think its fair to judge a woman on their sexual past. people make mistakes, learn from it, and change over time. I understand why a guy would want to know about their sexual past, but if you’re going to judge a girl on it, and said girl has had a crazy sexual pas…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 08:19 AM
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so you believe if a girl has a one night stand, that every guy after that should be able to sleep with her on the first night? not only that but you think that would be her respecting the guy by doing that.. thats a very flawed way of thinking. Peoples circumstances, priorities, mindset and principals change over time. like i said before, what if shes not attracted to you initially, but over time she is and now wants to sleep with you. and with previous partners the attraction was there immediat…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 03:54 PM
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im not promiscuous at all. I just dont like hypocrisy. You cant get annoyed women wont sleep with you straight away (OP) then in the same breathe say them women arent relationship material 🙄 fucking choose one? do u want women to be sluts or not? what men dont understand in 2022: if youre going to judge a woman about their sexual history, women are going to lie about it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 01:47 PM
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people get slut shamed ALL. THE. TIME. just look at this thread full of men getting upset women are lying about their bodycounts.. not upset because they dont care about it, upset because they feel its deceiving and because they DONT WANT to be with that woman because of it. so they want to know so that they can discard them if its too high/ or if they have slept with someone sooner than them. thats slut shaming? why would a woman be honest and open about their sexual past if it means 80% of men…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 01:17 PM
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maybe the woman doesnt agree that it should piss the man off? why is it okay for them to sleep around but we cant? why would a girl reject and refuse casual sex which they wanna participate in because they dont wanna piss off a man they havent even met yet.. its their life why should they refuse fun when the future man isnt refusing their fun. maybe we understand it pisses you off but we simply don’t care because of the whole hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 01:05 PM
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I don’t think you should be annoyed over peoples behaviour who you cannot control. Its better to just accept that there is going to be people who deceive you your whole life, and try to see the red flags so that you can avoid them people. But its always going to happen so getting annoyed is a waste of time and energy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:37 AM
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of course, everything i’ve said here is not personal to me. I have a low bodycount, and I don’t lie to the men I date about my sexual past. I think both men and women who deceive are immoral
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:05 AM
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news flash.. women have the same problem, men pretend to be more interested than they are to get women to sleep with them. its literally the exact same thing just reversed. people will be manipulating and deceiving to get what they want and it will always happen
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:57 AM
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women get slandered for sleeping around, so thats the cost i was talking about. But the woman wants casual sex so will pay that price. Men dont have that same cost. Obviously the casual sex man would benefit more (if he only wants sex) than the other guy who has to wait for sex. The woman is thinking about herself, and how she can benefit the most- not the other guy who might potentially leave her or not take her seriously if she decides to sleep with them too early
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:32 AM
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not at all, shed value him less because she doesn’t care about his opinion of her (being easy) shed be doing it for HER OWN benefit because she wants casual sex (many reasons why a women might chose to sleep with someone quickly)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:14 AM
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I was talking about the reasons women withhold sex from men they ARE attracted to sexually and DO want to sleep with straight away- but just aren’t because of what i said in my previous comments.. You’re talking about women who ARENT attracted sexually to the man they want to commit, who are withholding sex. I would say in this case, a lot of men aren’t desirable as short-term partners, but long-term they are. The woman gives them a chance because on paper they seem like they’d be a good spouse,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:59 AM
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theres a fair exchange, shes not ‘using’ you if you are also wanting sex from her and thats what shes giving you. both parties are benefitting. If anything id argue the man is benefitting more than the woman as the woman has a higher cost to sleeping around where as men dont. women withholding sex is not a better deal for the man, its a better deal for the woman (thats why she does it)- so that she is more likely to get the guy to take her seriously/commit to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:38 AM
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yep so thats where evolution comes in, in no way am I blaming men for what their biologically programmed to be attracted to, im just giving you the reason why women lie. And you’ve just proven my point that men do lie to get women in bed as-well. so you agree that both genders lie to get what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:13 AM
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unfortunately men have made it that way. if men didnt care about bodycounts and past sexual experiences then women would be more open and honest about their past. If men are gonna be able to do whatever they want sexually and not be judged and then continue to judge a woman for it. I think its fair enough that she will lie, its none of their business if they’re only gonna draw negatives from it and be hypocritical. Men lie all the time to get women to sleep with them 🤷🏻‍♀️ so women lie to get me…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:03 AM
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If guy B doesnt know about guy A whats the problem.. Im sure theres stuff you’re not particularly proud of that you would refrain telling a girl you’re dating seriously, in fear of putting them off. when meeting new people we always put the best version of ourselves on display. If you care about a woman’s bodycount or past sexual experiences maybe you need to look inwards, as why should that effect your relationship with her if she is loyal and you are compatible? what are you in fear of?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 08:36 AM
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as a woman i would disagree. just like how men have categories, someone they would sleep with but never be in a relationship with. women have the same thing. If they are attracted to someone but know they are not husband material, then they can validate sleeping with them early or doing more sexual things because they know they have no chance of anything more/don’t want anything more with them so don’t care about their opinion of them. If i met a man who had all green ticks, I would want to keep…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 08:22 AM
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I think you have to realise that just like men have the innate desire to have sex, women have the innate fear built in around men. i would love to walk down my road at night and not feel fear and be looking round cautiously at every man that i see paranoid something will happen. but its not something i can control.. i know the chances of anything happening are slim but try telling my body/ biology that. maybe women shouldnt be ‘so’ scared but its a reaction that we cant control
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