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ResourcesMA_CA_NV_CA/r/seduction18/12/21 06:18 AM
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This is dumb. If I waited for these blatant IOIs I’d do less than 1% of the approaches that I do.
/r/seduction17/04/23 04:11 AM
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There’s lots of great books on this subject. I recommend What Every Body is Saying.
/r/seduction14/04/23 03:23 PM
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I find that girls do this knee test all the time on dates as a signal that she is very attracted.
/r/seduction14/04/23 03:12 PM
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Russel brand, James Franco, Ryan gosling
/r/seduction05/11/22 06:31 AM
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“Hi do you like cucumbers?” While showing her a huge cucumber you just happen to be carrying with you.
/r/seduction13/10/22 04:15 AM
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This is correct.
/r/seduction13/10/22 04:12 AM
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This guy has tons of content from gaming in japan. I find it’s worked here in California as well. This is an article on opening. My experience is I get good positive feedback and interactions about 70-80% of the time I open and I consider myself a beginner and not very good at game. I know your style is pretty standard for London game and works well for lots of guys there. I wouldn’t use it personally because it’s a ton of explanation of the context of conversation and you come across as low val…
/r/seduction27/09/22 01:16 PM
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I don’t think it’s your race at all. Have seen men of all races do just fine. My experience when approaching them is they often lack social skills, get spooked / freeze during cold approach. The key is to stay calm through the initial awkwardness, have good fundamentals, continue to speak to them and sometimes the awkwardness will melt away within 15 seconds and she will start to open up and engage more. If you’re not at least getting positive responses and pleasant polite conversation 60-80% of…
/r/seduction26/09/22 11:50 PM
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said the guy who hasn’t done 100 cold approaches.
/r/seduction25/08/22 05:21 AM
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First time on seddit?
/r/seduction29/06/22 02:36 AM
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100% and I try to take an interest in understanding their fashion and style. It gives us one more thing to talk about and shows that I understand their world while also subtly communicating I have lots of female friends.
/r/seduction18/03/22 12:54 AM
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We’re all human and we shouldn’t pretend to be perfect. Women get that. So some vulnerability is genuine and can be endearing or cute or forgivable. But I think the key is she doesn’t want a man who is permanently or intrinsically weak. She can accept a man who is occasionally or temporarily weak or is fixable. It took me a long time to get that women hate it when I put them in the motherly role for anything more than a short time. They can actually enjoy it if it’s temporary and can bring the r…
/r/seduction06/03/22 03:33 PM
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Thanks so much for your post. I’ve already internalized that and don’t take rejection personally though it is nice to have it reinforced by hearing straight from a woman. In a weird way I actually enjoy being rejected as opposed to not approaching because at least I know I took genuine action and have closure and won’t wonder what could’ve been if I talked to her. I have a question as well. If there’s a lot of strangers within earshot (like at a bus stop) do women who get approached care what pe…
/r/seduction06/03/22 03:03 PM
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I take it a step further and don’t expect much compassion from serious GFs either. Sure maybe they’ll take care of you if you get sick for a few days. And the occasional flaw is endearing / cute and it’s cool to sometimes show vulnerability. But don’t make it a habit to show your weakness. At their core women hate, hate, despise and cannot respect weak men. They are not psyched to be a substitute for your mom. There’s a reason the male ideal is stoic.
/r/seduction06/03/22 02:54 PM
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I’ve been on this sub for a while but only recently noticed that there is some incredibly good content in this sub’s wiki.
/r/seduction06/03/22 02:50 PM
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Full disclosure: I’m guilty of this too sometimes and need to take my own advice. You’ve gotta really lower the bar for what you consider an acceptable opener. It can be as simple as “hey”, “excuse me” - literally saying anything is better than saying nothing. You could’ve asked them what they’re doing out - any special occasion? Then tell them about something cool you did recently or plan to do.
/r/seduction04/03/22 02:30 PM
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Fashion, entertainment (tv, movies, other media), travel, food. Women love talking about these topics endlessly.
/r/seduction28/02/22 08:22 PM
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This advice is probably darker than most are ready for but I’ve found it to be highly effective to rekindle fire in long term relationships. 1) even if you’re exclusive, still practice trying to pick up, approach flirt with other women. You don’t have to consummate anything if you don’t want but go in with the intent of making her want you. This is good practice for being charismatic and attractive with women in general. It will help you break bad unattractive habits that are turning off your wi…
/r/seduction27/02/22 06:33 AM
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“Excuse me. I hope you’re having a good day. 😊 You’re attractive and I want to meet you for drinks. Basically. 😏 “
/r/seduction22/02/22 02:55 PM
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A++ Loved it. So many people make excuses but all that matters is living in the moment and taking correct action.
/r/seduction12/02/22 06:25 AM
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I read the comments. If attraction is there then most say that all they need is good conversation and trust (comfort).
/r/seduction06/02/22 07:31 PM
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If you live in japan or spend a lot of time there you should get in touch with SocialSinapse over at AttractionJapan. He has way better culturally specific advice than you could ever find on this sub. J-girls are very open to SDL if you play your cards right. However a lot of western PUA advice is useless or worse for them. I do concur with the other guy who responded here.
/r/seduction06/02/22 07:24 PM
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Don’t jerk off. Don’t watch porn. Hookup with hotter women. Eat more protein. Lift weights.
/r/seduction06/02/22 07:20 PM
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Could have smashed if you went for it but she wasn’t your type. I don’t really consider these kinds of sets true practice. I only consider it a real set if it’s someone you’re really attracted to.
/r/seduction06/02/22 03:35 PM
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Have to be careful with this type of assumption. I’ve had to learn this the hard way after making this mistake many times. If you assume something high value (uni) and she has never been to college then she has to admit low value to you - a stranger. So you’ve made her feel shitty, not what you want to do. Similarly, if she says she goes to uni and you ask “Oxford?” But she actually goes to a mediocre one, you’re making her feel shitty for not going to an elite school.
/r/seduction06/02/22 03:33 PM
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Why even mention she’s your cousin? Women are women. There’s no special cheat code that only works on cousins that will be revealed to you on this Reddit. Just seduce her like you would any other woman. For the record I don’t think it’s weird. Many cultures snd countries still marry first cousins so F all these haters. All you’re doing is having some protected sex. https://www.therichest.com/shocking/15-countries-where-its-chill-to-marry-your-cousin-and-3-where-its-not/
/r/seduction05/02/22 05:43 AM
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If she’s hooking up with you definitely a super high body count 😉
/r/seduction02/02/22 11:42 PM
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Don’t understand all the debate and arguing. This is pretty solid advice in my book.
/r/seduction31/01/22 08:45 PM
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Greetings, fellow human.
/r/seduction31/01/22 08:43 PM
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I second the triangular gaze - that is powerful. I know women basically never make the first move but they can make it much easier for the man. For example, they can go along with his plans, gradually edge physically closer as the date progresses to make it easier for him to hold hands, hug or kiss. Make suggestions that make logistics I.e., privacy easier. Unfortunately a lot of men are too scared to make the move even if they’re attracted to you or they think there are a certain number of date…
/r/seduction29/01/22 04:20 PM
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Yeah for sure. The age gap is too much for some girls I try to game who are 18-25. When I was in my 30s I still looked young for my age so they could think of me as their peer. Now I’m noticeably older. I’m as old as their dad in some cases. Some girls are into it, some don’t care either way and some are a hard no just because of age. I think the conventional advice that make attractiveness peaks sometime in the 30s is generally correct.
/r/seduction29/01/22 03:06 PM
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Yeah for sure. Most people are not perfect specimens / the right race. I’m 5’7” and in my 40s but I still go for girls in their 20s. I know I have no shot with some of them but don’t let it stop me because I don’t know ahead of time which ones. The main difference very attractive men have and where the advice differs is the amount of girls who show choosing signals. Like AMS is a great teacher, he happens to be black but he’s also 6’4” and ripped. His advice is often “wait for girls to show you …
/r/seduction29/01/22 02:59 PM
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I kinda partly agree but only to an extent. Certain things are specific to the man but I tend to think most things are universally good advice and tactics and strategies. Also to flip this a little I think the advice should be slightly different depending on what kind of girls you’re gaming - college girls v cougars v Japanese girls v American rural girls v black girls v artsy girls, etc. There are great teachers who’ve helped me immensely who are nothing like me ranging from ripped huge black g…
/r/seduction29/01/22 07:30 AM
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It’s possible. I’ve done it a bunch of times. Need high initial attraction, to be at the top of your game and have good logistics. So basically the stars have to line up just right.
/r/seduction29/01/22 05:16 AM
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I think your math is wrong.
/r/seduction28/01/22 06:00 AM
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I agree. The key is in your delivery and the attraction that’s been built to that point. In my experience, the vast majority of the time they respect your honesty and confidence. It’s not like she’s gonna slap you or run away screaming. Even if they say no try to continue the date like it was NBD and try again later or on the next date. Sometimes they’re shocked / surprised / haven’t built enough attraction & comfort so they say no at first but later they’re more receptive.
/r/seduction28/01/22 03:56 AM
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Talk to a doctor about getting a discrete hearing aid.
/r/seduction28/01/22 03:49 AM
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She might have been awkward from nervousness of being attracted to you. If I’m reading this right you tried to make out with her at the bar. Some girls have a strict no making out in public policy. Sounds like she was possibly down to hook up if you had taken more initiative to take her somewhere private earlier. Some girls cheek the first kiss attempt. I wouldn’t take that as a clear rejection. I’d see if she’s down to hang out again.
/r/seduction22/01/22 04:09 AM
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The “don’t let her change you” is sound default advice. But sometimes she is really giving solid constructive feedback on how to make yourself more attractive to her (and most other women). So, listen, evaluate and make your own decisions.
/r/seduction21/01/22 02:05 PM
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I think you just have to accept and be good that they’ll talk shit behind your back. No way to sugar coat that I’m afraid. But you can control how much you care and think about it.
/r/seduction17/01/22 11:54 PM
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In this situation - she flaked and is trying to apologize for it. Id be honest and say I’m slightly annoyed but I’ll get over it and I’ll be fine. More importantly “you’ll have to make it up to me somehow when we see each other next time.”
/r/seduction16/01/22 03:54 PM
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Leisurely wandering around alone looking bored like she has nothing to do.
/r/seduction16/01/22 03:51 PM
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It is helpful and I do appreciate it. but I respectfully disagree with a lot of it. There’s a lot of bad mind reading and assuming the worst in your post. That your mind immediately went to such a dark place terrifies me. I try to bring love, kindness and respect to each encounter. I don’t objectify women like this and try to get to know each potential partner on a deep level in terms of values, personality and preferences. Honestly the “hope to meet you again when you’re 18 / 30 / in a few year…
/r/seduction16/01/22 06:12 AM
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Fair point. Appreciate it.
/r/seduction15/01/22 06:21 PM
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I’m genuinely curious. Are you a girl? If the interaction went well up to the point where she disclosed her age, why would this be terrifying for her? What would be a better way to handle the situation where you mistakenly hit on an underage girl and want to eject ASAP?
/r/seduction15/01/22 03:22 PM
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When this happens to me I just say “well have a great day and I hope to meet you again after you turn 18.” No social situation has to be awkward or weird unless you decide it is. This is a useful mind-frame to have: “I am the only person who gets to decide what is weird or awkward for me. Nobody else. Only I get to decide.”
/r/seduction15/01/22 03:34 AM
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I would even venture that 75% girls give bad BJs. Only about 25% give acceptable ones and only about half of those give great ones. Maybe that’s just me though…. YMMV
/r/seduction15/01/22 03:29 AM
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Why would the advice be different for a 30-something versus a 20-something? Approach them the same way.
/r/seduction15/01/22 03:27 AM
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I would assume whatever you do you probably blow your chances with one of the girls. If they’re both attractive to you go for whichever one is showing you higher interest. If one of them is clearly a much higher level of attractiveness to you maybe go for that one. First world problems!!!
/r/seduction15/01/22 03:26 AM
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I would love to hear a female perspective of approaches that worked or the most common ones that don’t work. What specifically do they do that is creepy? overly sexual banter too soon?
/r/seduction15/01/22 03:15 AM
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In my area of SoCal, beaches and shopping malls are the best.
/r/seduction13/01/22 02:59 AM
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Indicator of interest. Sorry for the jargon. It just means smiling, eye contact, playing with hair or other cues that a girl is interested in a guy. Most guys are too scared to approach without obvious IOI especially in the daytime.
/r/seduction12/01/22 07:15 PM
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Firstly, great reference. 😂 I’m not a cross dresser but I take an interest in makeup and female fashions just so I can show that I understand their world. It makes for better conversation. Same idea. No need to slavishly imitate, but an extra accessory like a gold chain looks good on almost any guy.
/r/seduction12/01/22 12:59 AM
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Shoot your shots. If your fundamentals are on point you’ll get your share. I would just try to learn a little bit about their world though. Like if they’re massive hip hop fans knowing a little bit about it will help you in conversations.
/r/seduction11/01/22 09:26 PM
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Totally. I haven’t tried anything like this but I’ve seen a video of a PUA who was carrying a huge radish and he went around asking girls “hi do you like radishes?” As his opener in the middle of the day. His delivery and fundamentals were on point and he got lots of positive reactions and giggles.
/r/seduction11/01/22 09:23 PM
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1-6 hours is totally in the normal range. I do this too just because I’m super busy with work and juggling girls. And guess what most attractive girls are juggling multiple guys and might have busy jobs / hobbies so they’re gonna take a while to respond. Gotta ask them out once you’ve established mutual interest.
/r/seduction11/01/22 09:20 PM
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Yes. This is normal when you do a solid approach and the girl reacts positively. What do you mean they were holding your hand? Like an extended handshake? Talking slow and low is part of the fundamentals of game - super important. Incidentally, talking slow is like the first thing they teach you in public speaking. Most people can’t process the words you are saying fast enough if you speak at the speed of thought. The standing still with no response is a good reaction. It means you have their fu…
/r/seduction11/01/22 09:17 PM
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Everyone’s got to set there own boundaries. But here I am thinking “I could just grow a new beard during the one week vacation.” Plus everyone knows that in this scenario it will be nonstop smashing, drinking and feasting. So yeah that trade sounds ok to me and I probably would’ve shaved it tbh. I’m not a full alpha though…. The true alphas probably would’ve done like you.
/r/seduction11/01/22 09:07 PM
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The easiest girls to approach, whether in the daytime or at night are by themselves and leisurely wandering around like they have nothing to do and are bored. Take that for what you will. Also, can we show this OP to all those guys who claim that women hate being approached and you should never approach unless she is throwing obvious IOIs? Here we have a hot woman who is not super young and inexperienced who is complaining that she’s not getting approached and doesn’t know how to do IOIs. 😂
/r/seduction11/01/22 09:03 PM
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Daygame on campus. Your welcome.
/r/seduction11/01/22 03:22 AM
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I doubt it’s this simple but perhaps refrain from masturbation and weed - those are known to kill motivation and ability to enjoy everyday activities.
/r/seduction11/01/22 01:02 AM
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This too.
/r/seduction11/01/22 12:28 AM
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There’s nothing wrong with your hobbies but women need to feel like you’re passionate about them and deeply enjoy them. If you’re not passionate about your hobbies and don’t deeply enjoy them then get better hobbies (or go deeper into your existing hobbies) for your own sake not for women.
/r/seduction11/01/22 12:28 AM
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AA = African American. AMS = Alpha Male Strategies. He’s a African American dating coach based in NYC. I think he’s great. His mindset, relationship management and general life advice is outstanding - really applicable for many different life situations and stages. Plus really entertaining. He has a ton of free material on podcasts.
/r/seduction10/01/22 04:37 AM
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If I do double text I try to wait like a week or more. At that point I figure I have nothing to lose.
/r/seduction10/01/22 03:00 AM
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I listen to AMS sometimes who has said he exclusively dates AA women. Though he lives in NYC he has a lot of positive things about Atlanta - saying that the F:M ratio is really good for guys.
/r/seduction10/01/22 02:58 AM
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Abundance mentality can come before results. Just from the realization that you can talk to any attractive girl that you see anywhere.
/r/seduction09/01/22 03:29 PM
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Men worry about rejection before sex. Women worry about rejection after sex. IMHO This is sort of a tricky shit test but also she wants some comfort / assurances that you won’t just pump-and-dump. That’s what it sounds like to me. I would maybe try to deflect it with some humor / confidence / comfort. “It wouldn’t surprise me because I’m amazing. So are you actually. At first I thought you were just a normal average girl but as I learn more about you I like you more.”
/r/seduction09/01/22 03:28 PM
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This is such a great topic. In my area SoCal a lot of the younger women mask up all the time even outdoors. This same question bugs me and has been a hindrance. I don’t approach as often because of the masking. Sometimes a girl I approach who seems attractive finally drops the mask and she was much older or less cute than I expected and I feel like an idiot. Also when’s the right time to ask her to take off the mask? I tend to wait a long time. I want to start asking earlier so I don’t waste my …
/r/seduction08/01/22 05:24 PM
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This is cliche pickup advice but it’s true. If you have abundance mentality then you genuinely don’t care (or care very little) when you get rejected. You’ll never know the real reason. Maybe another man came into her life, maybe she thought you were unattractive, whatever. I always reflect on whether my fundamentals were tight and replay her body language and micro-expressions to see where I might have gone wrong and what I could do better next time. Also did I take correct action to make my in…
/r/seduction08/01/22 05:17 PM
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I think this means that you likely stick to safe conversation topics and don’t try to elicit her values, or when you do you don’t acknowledge them. Also perhaps the stories you tell don’t speak to your values or lack emotional content.
/r/seduction08/01/22 05:12 PM
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There are thousands of guys on this forum who would probably be willing to be friends with you. You seem like a sweet person. Join some meetups or clubs for activities that you genuinely enjoy. You said you like to study and listen to music - perhaps something related to that. Or a sport / physical activity you might enjoy like hiking or kickball. Regardless whether you make friends you will be more confident, acting like yourself and doing something you love. The people there will be predispose…
/r/seduction08/01/22 05:04 PM
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I’m atheist too. Only about 10% of Americans are atheists. That being said religion clearly has benefits for societal cohesion and the nuclear family structure. Date someone from work then. Date a guy in a context where a breakup could have major social or life ramifications. That will pre select for guys who are dating you because they are looking for something serious. Also, generally speaking the longer a woman makes a guy wait to sleep with her the more willing he is to have it be a LTR. Tha…
/r/seduction08/01/22 04:54 PM
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I agree with other comments. I would add she sounds inexperienced, possible virgin and / or she genuinely lacks confidence and is unsure whether you’re attracted to her. As the man it is your job to convey your intent clearly.
/r/seduction08/01/22 06:26 AM
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For someone with this much social anxiety my advice is to start in the kiddy pool. Goto meetups and join clubs that involve hobbies and interests that you genuinely enjoy. If you are doing something you love and are passionate about you will be yourself, your confidence will be higher and you won’t be there just to meet women. This will get you into the habit of socializing like a normal human being. The next step is to socialize with attractive women exactly the same as you socialize with other…
/r/seduction08/01/22 06:23 AM
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You’ve still gotta play your cards right and not mess up. And it’s not 100% sure that’s her intent going in but it’s at least on the table.
/r/seduction08/01/22 06:17 AM
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For a high quality LTR / marriage partner if I were female I’d be going to a church / synagogue / mosque / temple every week. Ideally the same one your parents go to if you’re close enough.
/r/seduction08/01/22 06:15 AM
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Yes you can text her No you shouldn’t ask her where you stand especially over text. It doesn’t sound like you did anything obviously terribly wrong so might as well give it another shot if she’ll see you again. she might have been on the rag or she was tired but most likely you didn’t raise her attraction level enough. Which is fine can’t win them all and if it was a first date some girls simply won’t put out. On dates try to be observant of their body language and micro expressions to see how t…
/r/seduction08/01/22 05:24 AM
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Very challenging to tell whether they’re actually interested in you romantically or are being nice to you because it’s their job. It’s not impossible. I know people who’ve gotten laid from flirting with service workers but i wouldn’t do it.
/r/seduction08/01/22 05:13 AM
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Facts. I had to learn this the hard way. Probably everyone does. It’s a mental prison.
/r/seduction08/01/22 01:54 AM
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There is a powerful involuntary limbic response when being around a girl who is super attractive like a 9-10 in your book. It manifests in all sorts of nervous and unattractive behaviors, as well as more hesitancy. The only way to train yourself to be more attractive : less nervous around them is to spend more time around them and ultimately get used to smashing them. Incidentally this is why I don’t believe in doing practice approaches on unattractive girls. It’s just not the same on a chemical…
/r/seduction08/01/22 01:52 AM
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Fair enough. And that’s awesome. If that’s the case then the PUA stuff I would focus on is the fundamentals of how to be more attractive and charismatic. And i agree honesty is important. I already have kids and they’re awesome, happy, well adjusted, provide lots of meaning to my life and we have a great relationship. So that part is already all set. I’d be open to a serious relationship but my standards are ridiculously high. She has to be wealthy, 9+ attractiveness, great personality and great…
/r/seduction07/01/22 02:08 PM
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Oh yeah don’t shit where you eat. Workplace romance is generally a bad idea. Talk to girls outside work so you have more options and can be more direct. If this is college then you’ve gotta just go for who seems to have high interest in you that you find attractive - having the reputation of a cad isn’t necessarily a bad thing.
/r/seduction07/01/22 02:04 PM
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Usually you won’t know what they want or what they’re up for unless you put yourself on the line and go for it. Treat it the same as any other girl. Say let’s hang out / drink and try to pull to your place or other sex location. No need to bring up relationships or her bf.
/r/seduction07/01/22 07:13 AM
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BF means little or nothing especially in another city. Knowing that wouldn’t slow me down at all. Women cheat like crazy. I’m trying to provide a judgment-free atmosphere for them.
/r/seduction07/01/22 06:41 AM
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Totally agree. Looks don’t matter that much unless you’re at one extreme or another. It’s far more important to take action and be charismatic.
/r/seduction07/01/22 06:32 AM
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You make some important points. Pickup is not all unicorns and rainbows. It’s a fundamentally destabilizing mental and spiritual process. The goal is for it to be destabilizing in a positive way but there are many pitfalls and dark paths that some practitioners go down. I really wish all the public teachers gave more warnings about these but I mean let’s be honest only like 2% of their audience ever become PUAs anyway. In your example though if you’re truly doing pickup by what measure did a rel…
/r/seduction07/01/22 06:29 AM
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From her perspective, there are several possible interpretations of you not going for it quickly all bad for your romantic chances. You’re not attracted to her - as others said women HATE rejection. You’re indecisive - unattractive. You don’t have the balls to go for what you want - unattractive. Not sure if there’s anything I’m missing.
/r/seduction07/01/22 06:17 AM
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Yeah. OLD kinda sucks. It’s tough to make anything happen from OLD unless she has high initial interest. And then you can get away with playing it straight and going for logistics and IRL meeting pretty quickly. Most of the girls in OLD are getting hit up by dozens or hundreds of guys if they’re attractive. If she doesn’t have high initial interest it’s always going to be an uphill battle to win her over with the limited attention bandwidth she gives you. And add to that text is simply not a gre…
/r/seduction05/01/22 08:39 PM
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I am pretty cautious with negs and sarcasm when I do OLD. Text doesn’t convey tone or intent as well as in person. For OLD or texting I might do some playful teasing.
/r/seduction05/01/22 01:49 PM
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This is genius. If somebody did this for me I wouldn’t confirm or deny it and just let be a mystery and try to talk about other stuff. If she keeps asking eventually I’d just say he must’ve mistaken me for someone else I’m actually not famous. But by then I’ll have had a chance to shoot my shot.
/r/seduction02/01/22 05:47 PM
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Bump
/r/seduction02/01/22 07:29 AM
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The Closer by Ben Gay (yes that’s his real name lol). It’s a book all about how to become a great salesman. Some of the same principles apply. Any book about how to write good advertising copy (I forgot the one I read). It will help your social media posts and texting. Another good one for general writing skills is “on writing well” “What Every Body Is Saying” by Joe Navarro. It’s all about reading other peoples body language.
/r/seduction01/01/22 05:57 PM
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“all women are superficial in a relationship” - you understand women better than most. I think you actually have a good mindset in some ways. It should take someone truly special and exceptional to get you into a relationship. And if you never find someone up to your standards - oh well, keep meeting and having fun with women anyways.
/r/seduction01/01/22 05:48 PM
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The first step is you’re now aware of it where I assume you were not aware before. Now how to fix it. Part of it is habit, part of it is self esteem / self confidence. You need to feel like you are the catch and she’d be lucky to have you. Part of it is abundance mindset - if you truly feel like you have lots of dating options you won’t feel the need to overly please one woman.
/r/seduction01/01/22 05:45 PM
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I think most women prefer low body fat because it makes you look more handsome and they will spend most of their time looking at your face and eyes not your body. Definitely for the women I am attracted to this is true (young and thin). But for other subsets of women, such as women who lift or other groups they may prefer bulkier muscles. So it’s also a matter of knowing your audience depending on who you are attracted to.
/r/seduction01/01/22 05:19 PM
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I think most women prefer low body fat because it makes you look more handsome and they will spend most of their time looking at your face and eyes not your body. Definitely for the women I am attracted to this is true (young and thin). But for other subsets of women, such as women who lift or other groups they may prefer bulkier muscles. So it’s also a matter of knowing your audience depending on who you are attracted to.
/r/seduction01/01/22 05:19 PM
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Find something specific and sincere to complement her on, talk about what you’ve been doing recently, places you’ve been, friends, what you’ve eaten. It doesn’t have to be anything special or amazing though you should sound upbeat when you say it like you love your life. Once I’ve got her interested and a little curious about me I can start asking her questions to find out more about her. The big five topics are food, fashion, entertainment, travel and relationships. Women enjoy having endless c…
/r/seduction01/01/22 04:37 PM
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For 99.9% of men I would say stop watching porn. For you I would say you need to practice masturbating to porn to get comfortable with the idea of having sex with someone that you don’t know well. In 2021 (unless you live in a super conservative culture) most women are not going to have the patience to date you for months without getting jiggy. If you make no effort to be physical by date 3 they will just assume you’re not interested / are a pussy / just want to be friends. Also this tells me th…
/r/seduction01/01/22 06:51 AM
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Don’t beat yourself up. I hate going out NYE. I always refer to it as amateur hour because all the people who don’t have social lives feel like they HAVE TO make an effort. Everything too crowded and overpriced. Let them have it. I’m chilling with a regular tonight at home. As for not drinking I don’t drink much and have experimented going out sober because I wanted a clearer head for gaming. But People think I’m fucking weird and judge me for not drinking. Not great for gaming. Next time I thin…
/r/seduction01/01/22 06:41 AM
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I almost never run out of things to talk about with the ladies. I find something specific and sincere to complement her on, talk about what I’ve been doing recently, places I’ve been, my friends, what I’ve eaten. Once I’ve got her interest I can start asking her questions to find out more about her. The big five topics are food, fashion, entertainment, travel and relationships. Women enjoy having endless conversations about these. There are other parts of my game that need improvement - not appr…
/r/seduction01/01/22 06:35 AM
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From what little you said it sounds like you did pretty well. I don’t think knowing each other’s names matters that much TBH. My main critique is to go for a messaging app or phone number rather than a social. On a social any halfway attractive girl can get over 1k followers with any effort and you’ll just be one of those many thirsty guys who hits her up there. Messaging is much more direct and can use it to set up dates. If you see her again don’t be a weirdo and ignore her and act all butt hu…
/r/seduction01/01/22 06:27 AM
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About 1/3 of them will want nothing to do with you and react negatively in some way. There’s no way around that. But the good news is it will be obvious immediately, the whole interaction will last about 10 seconds and you just act gracious and wish them a wonderful day. 1/3 will be on the fence but let’s be honest as a beginner you will strike out with these too until you develop some gaming skills. The other 1/3 will be receptive and happy. So don’t mess those up. This all assumes that you’re …
/r/seduction01/01/22 06:20 AM
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Even if you’re in a relationship you’re still gaming in the sense that you have to maintain attractive behaviors and keep her attracted to you. When guys catch feelings it’s often tough to control them and it comes across as overly needy and unattractive. So, chill out. Try to keep yourself slightly unavailable so she has to do some work to keep you. And don’t let her fatten you up and make you lazy.
/r/seduction01/01/22 06:14 AM
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This sounds partly like a question of being socially calibrated and knowing your audience and the context. Personally I think overly obvious sexual innuendo comes off as thirsty and kinda tacky. A good rule of thumb with humor is don’t laugh at or acknowledge your own jokes when you deliver them. That comes off as goofy and reduces the awkwardness if the joke doesn’t land. I don’t try to be cocky. I try to be unwaveringly confident. Occasionally it strays into cocky territory and when it does it…
/r/seduction01/01/22 06:09 AM
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There’s tons of videos on YouTube about voice training. I have the same issue. My instinctive natural voice is nasal and nerdy. When I try I can make it deep, manly and sexy. I have to try to remember to “speak through my mask”. But I often forget when I’m just chatting and it comes off as too friendly and not manly or attractive. I figure with practice and conscious effort it will become a more consistent habit.
/r/seduction01/01/22 06:03 AM
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I think you should work backwards from your end goal. Where is your sex location at the festival? Which girls that you are attracted to seem to have the highest interest in you? Try to isolate her and move her to the sex location. Repeat ad infinitum.
/r/seduction31/12/21 03:27 AM
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Just my personal experience and perception from the women I’ve been with. muscle tone in the arms and legs doesn’t matter nearly as much as you think. But jawline is pretty important and is one of the benefits of having lower body fat. Lower body fat is very noticeable in the face and makes the vast majority of men more handsome.
/r/seduction30/12/21 02:16 AM
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6-pack is not necessary. Believe it or not a lot of women don’t like totally ripped muscle guys. But lose the love handles - those are a negative.
/r/seduction28/12/21 06:51 AM
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I went through this stage too. Just get out there even if you don’t do approaches. Just be in an environment where approaches are possible. Take notes all the reasons why you talked yourself out of approaches. Write them down. Then realize they were all bullshit excuses. Keep doing this. Eventually you will approach. It helps to have a wing for moral support as well. But at the end of the day you have to take action. No one can give you a set of balls and make you man up. You have to do it yours…
/r/seduction28/12/21 06:49 AM
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One of my biggest player friends was a 5’5” guy who did not give a fuck and would hit on any attractive girl in his vicinity. He was like a machine - no approach anxiety, no butt hurtness from rejection, he could do 30 approaches a day easy. He was a decent looking guy, athletic and good social skills. Obviously just from putting in those types of numbers he got lots of play.
/r/seduction28/12/21 06:44 AM
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When I goto a coffee shop with the intention of approaching the girls give me the cold shoulder. If I go there with the intention of getting work done or just reading a book, I occasionally get obvious choosing signals and strike up conversations. Overall it’s not a productive venue for me.
/r/seduction27/12/21 10:12 PM
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“I hope you’re having a good day”
/r/seduction27/12/21 10:10 PM
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Literally all my hobbies: playing music, foreign language, exercise / lifting, reading, even taking an interest in fashion / style and female makeup / fashion.
/r/seduction27/12/21 10:09 PM
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Dude that’s not “Asia” that’s Philippines and Thailand - poor countries in Asia. You will not have similar easy success in Singapore, korea or japan. It has more to do with being from a rich country than being white. Any decent looking dude from a rich country could get similar success in any poor country unless there are major cultural issues like it’s ruled by the taliban or something.
/r/seduction27/12/21 10:06 PM
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Getting ghosted is normal in every single one of those situations. EXCEPT after sex. That is not normal if it is happening regularly. You need to re evaluate how you can give her more pleasure. Some women just want FWB and if you can’t make her come she will ghost your ass.
/r/seduction27/12/21 09:59 PM
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Yes money success and attractiveness lets you date younger. Keep doing that. As for her, it’s not going to last - let’s be real. 99% of relationships don’t last. she has a million backup dicks lined up already and it’s right up in your face. You need to line up lots of backup females and start seeing them regularly (but don’t put it up in her face obviously). This will also have the side effect of making you less jealous / needy and more attractive to Instagram girl.
/r/seduction26/12/21 06:38 PM
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I love hearing about folks who pull themselves up through hard work. Congrats and keep grinding. The grind never ends. I mostly get inspired by women with youth, beauty and good fashion / style typically 18-25 but I go as high as mid-late 30s. Highly feminine and chill energy is also important to me. Everyone has different preferences for what they consider beautiful, cute or sexy or whatever. Maybe it’s just my “type” but the girls I tend to find attractive are studying, working normal stable j…
/r/seduction26/12/21 06:44 AM
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I’m not a bazillionaire but I have a high income and enough in the bank not to worry. The main thing I notice about having money compared to when I didn’t is my confidence, sense of self worth, lack of neediness and abundance mindset. My job and the pursuit of money provides me plenty of purpose and meaning. Im not looking to fill a hole in my life with women and they can sense that outcome independence and lack of neediness. I am attractive, have my shit together and have generally good social …
/r/seduction25/12/21 07:09 PM
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Just say “interesting. I need to think about it.” Then don’t bring it up again.
/r/seduction25/12/21 07:01 PM
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I assume you’re talking day game not night game because Ive seen this countless times in a night game context. In addition I have seen this happen several times in a day game context but it is easy to miss it. The reason most folks miss it is that unless you saw the precise moment he approached and initially engaged they would look just like any friends or couple having a normal conversation.
/r/seduction22/12/21 03:42 AM
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Easy - hold hands and get cozy on the rides.
/r/seduction21/12/21 09:22 PM
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I prefer 18-25 girls. If they’re still in school I pay for everything. If they’re working I make them pay for at least little stuff. If she’s a decent girl and not poor or a gold digger she’ll often insist on paying half or sometimes even treats me.
/r/seduction21/12/21 07:59 PM
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You did just about everything right. Perhaps next time distract her / change the conversation when she mentions the friend and try to get her out of there without letting the friend know. Or suggest just text the friend and then turn your phone off because the friend will be jealous. I find that it is often not to my advantage to let the women in the group talk to each other.
/r/seduction19/12/21 08:25 PM
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I’m saying that if everything else is equal most men would rather date a rich woman than a broke woman. I believe that women have the same preference.
/r/seduction18/12/21 05:20 PM
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Study game from many different sources critically (skill levels vary widely even among the “pros”) but also study the relevant tangential skills like body language, copy writing, presentation skills, voice tone control and sales. My favorite game teachers are Social Sinapse (Attraction Japan) and Mac the Day Gamer based in japan which has a long history and tradition in day game. I try to port and adapt their teachings to the USA. I also like Alpha Male Strategies for their mindset training even…
/r/seduction18/12/21 05:13 PM
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Question - how many times has this happened? What percent of the time?
/r/seduction18/12/21 06:39 AM
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A lot of women get approached in genuinely uncalibrated, scary and creepy ways. I’m still a relative beginner at cold approach but consider myself good looking and highly calibrated. Since I started studying game seriously I’ve never had an overtly negative interaction / been told I’m creepy. The worst thing that’s happened is I get ignored, stand there awkwardly trying to spark interest, then give up and excuse myself as politely and gracefully as possible. In that scenario the whole interactio…
/r/seduction18/12/21 06:28 AM
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LINE? Lol. Game j-girls much? Glad to see I’m not the only one. Also I agree it is terrible to delete any old chats. I always hide when I feel like the ball is in their court. Every once in a while I might throw out a feeler to a bunch of them that have gone cold just to see if anyone bites. Also if one of them randomly gets back in touch I want to remember her name and what we were talking about.
/r/seduction18/12/21 06:08 AM
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I’m in my 40s but most people guess I’m in my early 30s. Most of the ones I’m attracted to are in their 20s, preferably early 20s, so this comes up often. If they ask I deadpan say “I’m actually 67 but I look quite young for my age.” Then I wait a moment for them to laugh / looked shock. Then I confidently say my real age. This seems to go over well.
/r/seduction18/12/21 04:19 AM
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Well then I’m sure many of them would love to practice their English conversation skills with a cool native speaker.
/r/seduction11/12/21 07:14 AM
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I agree with moderator simply because I’ve seen the group chats girls start on the Reddit for the local college where I’ve done some approaches. There are a handful of socially unadjusted weirdos who do actually harass girls via cold approach. It’s the same 5 guys over and over - they post their photos and tons of girls recognize them and tell their stories that are super cringe. These guys do weird shit like try to follow girls to their car, offer girls a ride in their car, yell at girls who ig…
/r/seduction11/12/21 07:08 AM
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Pretty simple. If a chick has $1M in the bank she gets one extra point. For every extra zero add another point. Britney is probably a 6 at this point but she get 2-3 extra points for her bankroll.
/r/seduction28/11/21 07:11 AM
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After 5-10 minutes of conversation right before I’m about to eject, I say something about it’d be great to hang out again and just hand the phone over. If she seems interested at all and logistics aren’t great for anything to happen immediately no point in sticking around for a super long conversation. Sometimes I continue to hang out if we’re vibing and having fun and she’s making me laugh. But that doesn’t really improve my chances IMHO. Whatever cliche you prefer: leave on a high note or leav…
/r/seduction08/11/21 04:03 PM
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Yeah I get it. It can be frustrating. With girls like this, if I feel like talking about myself I just talk about myself. I take it as a challenge to present something interesting about myself that will hook their interest. I just haven’t had this situation tbh where we’ve already been smashing and she’s still not that interested to learn about me lol. That’s pretty unique and could get tiresome.
/r/seduction08/11/21 01:59 PM
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The exact same way lol. Maybe I should thing of something more creative. Otoh some women respect and want persistence as long as it’s socially calibrated and non creepy. I think the keys to this move are it displays confidence by assuming success, don’t even have to say anything, and is more like a statement than a request. Also it’s a slightly original and humorous way of doing it so it smoothly moves though what could be an awkward part of the interaction. Bottom line if she likes you already …
/r/seduction08/11/21 01:55 PM
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Yeah it is kinda smooth. Usually they’ll giggle or look impressed. Even when I get denied they usually have a good laugh about it and give it back to me. I’ll say “too soon?” Or “too forward?” And continue the conversation like NBD and try again a bit later if the feelings right. It also saves from ever having to ask for or remember a name in the conversation.
/r/seduction08/11/21 06:07 AM
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I truly believe that almost every girl has an interesting personality or story to tell and it’s my job to get it out of them. If the conversation is boring honestly I blame myself as much as the girl. It takes two…
/r/seduction08/11/21 06:03 AM
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I just hand her my phone with the screen already queued up for Add New Contact.
/r/seduction08/11/21 05:58 AM
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Never run out of conversation topics. The big 5 that women like to talk about: entertainment (movies / tv / music); food; fashion / beauty (try to understand her world); travel; relationships (family, friends, romance)
/r/seduction08/11/21 05:56 AM
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Respectfully disagree about Asians. The hottest ones date within their race. They have no reason to look outside. The white guys are catching the 7s and below (and most white guys don’t realize it because they don’t understand Asian beauty standards).
/r/seduction01/11/21 03:10 PM
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One more thing to add (white guy) - I game and have been rejected countless times by all races. 99% of the time I don’t know the real reason. Girls rarely give you any reason let alone the truth. Unless she straight up tells you there’s no way to know if it’s racial or a million other possible reasons.
/r/seduction01/11/21 02:13 PM
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I said during his campaign when he was trying to get elected. Unlike Hillary who kept talking about how she’d be a better president because she was female. Anyways I shouldn’t have used a political example because it triggers people. But my point is that it’s often to your advantage to not bring it up first.
/r/seduction01/11/21 01:01 PM
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I am not you & can’t pretend to have your life experiences but as a white guy who often dates outside my race I can tell you anecdotally that when I’m the first person who’s brought up race (like telling an Asian girl oh your family must be Korean because your last name is Park or telling a Chicano girl about my best friend being Chicano in high school) it has usually not gone well for me. It’s gone much better for me when i wasn’t the first person to bring up race. I think most of these girls d…
/r/seduction01/11/21 05:24 AM
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Normal. Just be socially calibrated. try to consider their feelings & read their body language while you’re doing it. Most of the time it will be super obvious within the first few seconds if there’s any interest.
/r/seduction01/11/21 05:11 AM
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Thanks man. I appreciate it and there is some solid advice I can incorporate. I really want to incorporate the straight angle hard stop you described. If that were part of my repertoire I could double my opportunities. But I’ve never done it because it feels so direct and obvious. Nevertheless the way you described it is pretty smooth. I just would open with something other than “I like you” because at this point I have no idea if I like her as a person as she hasn’t earned it. One thing I disag…
/r/seduction30/10/21 08:16 PM
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I mostly go for 1-sets because that’s already challenging enough - when I get really good I’ll start going for 2-sets more. She’s walking down the street I walk slightly ahead of her. Over my shoulder give a sincere complement about her style or an article of clothes. Usually she’s flattered and surprised and has a positive response right away - eyes wide open “oh, thank you so much” or something like that. If she ignores me or just mumbles something I continue to throw out information to try to…
/r/seduction30/10/21 02:29 PM
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Yes but inner game manifests itself in good fundamentals. I think of myself as confident, successful and have interesting hobbies so I’m not sure inner game is the main thing holding me back though there is definitely room for improvement - my remaining AA is definitely inner game related. When I replay interactions in my head I realize I sometimes am forgetting fundamentals (usually when I get too caught up in linear logical content which is friend-zone non sexual). I could improve eye contact …
/r/seduction30/10/21 01:29 PM
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In reply to aelfred, This is fair advice for night game but terrible day game advice. In my experience, IOIs are a terrible indicator of potential f-close success in day game cold approach. Maybe there’s some correlation but it’s so weak as to be close to meaningless. There have been many times I’ve gotten blown out by a girl who seemed to be throwing obvious IOIs and many times when the girl who showed no initial interest ended up as a notch. If I waited for a girl to “give me the eye” - that i…
/r/seduction30/10/21 03:56 AM
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Awesome. Definitely need to incorporate.
/r/seduction29/10/21 11:02 PM
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Too much too fast. She needs to earn that level of validation. If you’ve never said more than “hi” you actually have no idea whether you like her (as a human being). You’ll come across as thirsty and uncalibrated IMHO. Rather than complementing her physical beauty (so generic and unoriginal) I would recommend making a specific sincere comment about her overall style or a specific thing you like about her (hair, article of clothes, workout) that she actually put thought / effort into and then try…
/r/seduction29/10/21 10:37 PM
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Interesting…. It’s weird for me that someone who had the balls to cold approach might be hesitant to call. But whatever that’s awesome that it works for you. Nice work! Do you call after first trying to text or is the call the first contact after number close? Any suggestions when to call? Do you just randomly call when you’re free and hope she picks up?
/r/seduction29/10/21 10:31 PM
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Thanks dude. I could do more work to improve on fundamentals - voice tone, body language, better conversation.
/r/seduction29/10/21 09:49 PM
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Social Sinapse aka Mateo based in Tokyo. And I don’t think it’s particularly close. He doesn’t have the follower count but the sheer numbers he puts up and how smooth he is in action is ridiculous. He only really goes after thin attractive 18-25 year olds and mostly gets SDLs. Julien Blanc got banned by the government of japan. I don’t think you can get blown out worse than that. He’s a joke over there.
/r/seduction02/10/21 05:10 AM
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Thanks for your comments. I think the mindset tips helped. I did a lot more approaches yesterday. But unfortunately never got to see them unmasked. I was wondering if anyone has figured out a non tacky way to get them to drop their masks. I could just ask but I feel like that is tacky and would hurt the vibe. Let me know what you think about this. I’m thinking of approaching with mask on (usually I’m mask less because I think they’re stupid and want her to see how handsome I am). Then, after som…
/r/seduction01/10/21 01:52 PM
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I’m getting some but not nearly as much or as high quality as I want. That’s good feedback. I really appreciate it man. I do need a good kick in the rear. I am just too damn picky a lot of times. I need to widen my strike zone. It’s something I know and need to work on. I know if I hook up with a 6 but she’s really cool and fun it’s actually more fun than hooking up with an 8 who’s kinda lame.
/r/seduction30/09/21 07:09 PM
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Thanks. Yeah that’s a good mindset. I should just try to enjoy myself regardless. I think I have pretty high standards for cuteness so sometimes I just lose all attraction which kills the vibe (she can tell too she’s not dumb). So it becomes kinda a bummer for both of us. I should just try to make it more fun and playful for both of us no matter what happens. Maybe she can introduce me to a friend.
/r/seduction30/09/21 02:20 PM
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Yeah I’m in California. I don’t wear mine because I think it’s stupid. I don’t really get dirty looks but I definitely feel slightly self conscious since I’m in the 10% minority.
/r/seduction30/09/21 02:07 PM
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Lol 😂 yeah. I guess others are dealing with the same thing. If it’s bad, I just try to eject as gracefully and politely as possible. But it is kinda a bummer and makes me second guess my own judgment which is not great for trying to overcome AA which is still somewhat of an issue for me. I’d say only about 10% don’t wear masks so only going for those really thins out the potential targets.
/r/seduction30/09/21 04:54 AM
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