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And society selling marriage and family, I agree with the concept, it’s just reality is a far cry from what is being sold.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 03:01 AM
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Another issue is that the guy actually thinks the girl loves him and wants to be with him, and doesn’t realize until several years, maybe 10 or more that she resents being married to him and would rather be with someone hotter, etc… then when she cheats and divorces him, he has to pay out, since she mostly married him for money anyways… being a good provider etc…he ends up losing what women may have found attractive in him, his financial situation, she Walks away with the money and is free to pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 03:48 PM
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I think this is really the issue, people want to make it extreme…I doubt any woman would consent to marry someone she is repulsed by… it’s more of, could I be happy with this person, and do they check enough if the boxes… many variables which add up to - yes I will marry…. As a math/stat/data person, I naturally think of it as - let’s say the minimum number value needed for a given person is 80 to consider marriage with the other person… and the criteria can be weighted depending on importance, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 03:34 PM
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Which is why men should avoid paying for her on dates, trips, giving gifts etc. if she isn’t willing to split things, at least a good amount of the time, then basically you are enticing her with money and with what money buys… It needs to be a reciprocal relationship which won’t happen if the guy is being the entertainer and the financier.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 02:56 PM
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If you are dating a stripper, then you both know she is stripping, therefore it is not a betrayal, because you already know the deal. If you have an open marriage, then the same thing, it is a known and agreed upon thing. The misrepresentation, where you are believing one thing and being lied to, and not knowing and not being ok with her sleeping with other people, that is what my theory above is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:36 AM
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Not sure what you mean here? A guy dating a stripper?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 11:14 PM
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This is a key component
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:03 PM
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I think it has to do with something that was just shared between the two of you, something that was intimate and valued as part of your bond… was given to someone else, who likely hasn’t anywhere near as much time, effort, money, emotions invested…and then combine that with the insecurity of feeling like you aren’t good enough for your partner that she was willing to go somewhere else behind your back, to give sexual access to someone who wasn’t invested nor committed. When a guy gives commitmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:00 PM
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Women are people … talk to her like she is a person… find a common interest, if she isn’t reciprocating on anything, then she isn’t interested… it really doesn’t matter what you are talking about, just see how it goes and if you can create conversation and energy.
/r/seduction22/06/22 02:39 PM
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Excellent analysis! I think you have a very good point there! And I’m going to go on a limb, just based off of your ability to have this conversation, and give insightful and thoughtful responses, that you very likely will continue to have a great relationship… for real… thank you for the respectful dialogue
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:10 AM
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Idk - just seen a lot…I hope I’m wrong… but yea I’m prob a bit skewed to the negative
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:54 AM
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For sure…but some things are not in your control, even if you do everything you can… and when the signs are seen, you work on them, and sometimes it’s not enough… I sincerely hope anyone who is married is able to stay happily married… the breakup of a family is hard on everyone… just saying 10 years is still early on… was speaking to a lady yesterday that got divorced after 35 years… she said her husband was actually amazing… she just fell out of love… so… idk… it’s not easy… I hope for the best…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:52 AM
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Just saying over time, things change… kids, finances, health and even love… for the ones that stick it out and are happy, that is awesome, and seems ideal… so many marriages end after 20, 25, 30, 35 years etc… so 10 years to me, still seems like the beginning… at 10 years everything was great for us also… 18 years in… you know, people change…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:45 AM
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Give it another 10 or 20 and see what happens
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:41 AM
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You will be in your 30’s regardless if you learn the skill or not, if you learn it, then at least you will have acquired a skill.
/r/seduction13/06/22 05:05 AM
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Yea this is the perfect candidate that will always cheat again whenever they feel like it.
/r/seduction27/05/22 11:01 PM
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Many factors come into play… basically it all depends on many things. Generally someone who disregards their relationships and cheats, will do so again given the right circumstances. Things like stress, frustration at home, boredom or just seeking more Excitement could all be good enough reasons subconsciously to cheat… for a cheater to not cheat in the future, it would take a lot of personal work, reflection, understanding why they make the decisions, deciding that they don’t want to be like th…
/r/seduction27/05/22 11:00 PM
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Haha yea, I’m with you on the relationship thing… my daughter keeps telling me I need to settle down with someone, and I am like, maybe… and other times I am like, naw, I’m good… lol. She is 21. I was in a 20 year marriage so I am definitely not wanting to be in something that isn’t everything I want…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 12:59 AM
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Aww yea, the biological clock and social status of kids etc… have you maintained the level of fitness? Are you still out there slaying?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 12:28 AM
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Thanks for sharing, that’s a cool story… I like that question you asked, “is eating this helping or hurting my goals?” That’s what I struggle with, that mental aspect… I like that questioning… I do decent on the apps, like get many matches a day, year in and year out, but some of the ones I want to match with, are not as regular… I always felt if I could get cut then it might help… like I’m fit, but not Fit enough to want to take my shirt off for a dating profile lol… but lots of stories like yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 12:08 AM
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That’s crazy! … regarding the face shots… so next question, how long did it take to get cut? What did you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:29 PM
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Having the body, was high enough that they didn’t care about the other things, as they were wanting to get with a hot body…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 10:08 PM
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Actually needs to be tracked over their lifetime… many divorces happen after 20/30 years of marriage……. And also a lot of people are talking about picking the right one… what they maybe aren’t considering is that people change and have the right to change… after 20 years they could just not be interested in being with that person anymore… the issue also isn’t that the courts assign alimony etc. it’s that when people marry they of course don’t want a divorce, after time, then they consider, hmmm …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 01:49 PM
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Chalamet is at the top of the food chain, extremely attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 09:11 PM
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Intelligent response… solution oriented…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 04:21 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:48 PM
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200k a week isn’t top 20 percent, more like top .05 percent…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:45 PM
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Until recent medical advancements, it was a need for the human race to survive - obviously there wouldn’t be humans without it, so in a sense it’s a need for the survival of the species…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 05:36 PM
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You can file an ex-parte without a lawyer... most of the family courts have a section for people without lawyers that can’t afford them... they can help you fill out the paperwork... and the ex-parte is an emergency hearing where you can state the kids might be in danger... the court can then order her to not leave the county... with the kids or it’s in violation of the court order and she will lose custody... look up ex-parte and also look up the family court free help, I did this, and it worke…
/r/MGTOW223/11/20 09:04 PM
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Why not go to grad school, get an MBA or a law degree or both... also, it’s important to find things that are interesting to you either as a hobby or a job... the reality is that there is no purpose in life, other than whatever purpose or meaning you give it... If people are enjoying their life “wasting it” then good on them, at least they are doing something they like... nothing worse than living someone else’s life or dreams... Start a business? Learn about being an entrepreneur, bring value t…
/r/askTRP11/11/20 03:28 PM
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Yea you might be able to shop around orthodontists... some offer it for 5k, you might find some for 4500?
/r/MGTOW204/11/20 10:45 PM
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There are some other ones out there similar to Invisalign, but less expensive... I haven’t researched the quality... but I know there are at least two other brands out there that could be options
/r/MGTOW204/11/20 10:26 PM
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Exactly, if they cared, they wouldn’t cheat...they don’t hold the same emotional pain, because they don’t care that much...
/r/PussyPassDenied28/10/20 12:57 PM
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Lost his best friend and the love of his life at the same time...
/r/PussyPassDenied28/10/20 12:49 PM
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That lady has probably done that before, that’s why she was complaining... it’s probably not that big of a deal to her...
/r/PussyPassDenied28/10/20 12:46 PM
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I also think by immediately Lashing out with an insult, shows weakness on your side... instead of showing calmness. The above mentioned method shows you are not afraid to have boundaries and to handle difficult situations maturely... if it later comes to a physical or more negative situation, you at least handled yourself appropriately before escalating
/r/askTRP13/10/20 08:09 PM
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Haha maybe... I’m not in college so... that’s the way I would handle it in corporate America... so... ??? It’s a mature way to deal with stuff like that...
/r/askTRP13/10/20 07:40 PM
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Probably a straight forward response without the sarcasm or insults will be the best received... and in front of the others is fine... next time he says something, just say, hey, I don’t know you very well, but what you are saying comes across as racist and insulting... I would appreciate if you refrain from offensive comments as it’s both rude and shows insecurity on your part... if you want to discuss further, I would be happy to have a private conversation with you after this meeting ... He w…
/r/askTRP13/10/20 07:26 PM
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Clearly you are more than a 4...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/08/20 02:34 AM
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Also if she isn’t attracted to him, then the sex will dry up once the marriage starts... so it’s important that she is actually attracted to her spouse... since most guys aren’t interested in a sexless marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 09:17 PM
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Best way to get over it is to practice... just be kind to yourself, most people won’t judge you... and talk to people when you around them... like see what they are up to, ask questions and if possible find a common ground or shared interest... after doing this all the time it will be easy after a while... most people like to talk about themselves, so ask questions without be interrogating, ask to learn about the person, be curious and give them the freedom to talk... share from time to time, bu…
/r/seduction13/07/20 09:11 AM
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I don’t see this at all... I live in Northern California... never see ugly dudes with hot women... I see average women with hot guys... and I have female friends that I’ve heard a few times say - I can’t believe that guy is dating that average woman...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 07:50 AM
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I also believe this is where it’s headed... most men won’t be getting sex... women will have no need for average men, and they will only want sex from top tier, including getting pregnant from them... 80 percent or more of men will not be in relationships nor have sexual relationships without paying for it with money... women will have their own money, as well as government protection... and like you said, females already have their own strong social networks...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 07:41 AM
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Maybe it’s just the women I’m close to then... they figure correctly that they can vent about how life sucks because of their monthly period, where they are in pain and their emotions are all over the place... some handle it better than others I’m sure...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 11:21 PM
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I think this comparison is closer to the mark...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 12:37 AM
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But I hear that from women a lot... the unfairness of pregnancy and what it does to the body, as well as the unfairness of monthly periods...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 12:37 AM
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The court imputes wages... which means they decide what you should be making according to your abilities and history... if you decide not to make the payments you can go to jail... and they still make you pay, even in jail... if you can’t, then it’s added to the total amount you owe plus interest... same as if you are unemployed, doesn’t matter... you have to pay unless there is a court order relieving you of such... in states like California, they have it so if you are married for ten years, yo…
/r/PussyPassDenied18/06/20 10:43 AM
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Top tier men don’t care either... they get the benefits of more women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 06:33 PM
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Women can be like this, but with the very few... you obviously fit the criteria
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:07 PM
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Yes... those seem like rather extreme events though... so for most people it won’t come into play...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:26 PM
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Pretty sure CA is no fault
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 06:36 AM
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Alimony is not almost gone
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 06:35 AM
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All good... to be honest I was puzzled for a while on why I got so much more attention from younger women... on dating apps and in real life... I have 3 daughters, the oldest is 21... they don’t like it when I date women less than 40... But it’s strange because mid 20’s to early 30’s seem the most interested... I also get interest from women in their late 50’s - early 60’s.... so generally confusing... I chalk it up to someone in their 40’s and 50’s maybe has created such a stringent list of req…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 07:49 PM
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It doesn’t have to be a shitty relationship... when I have dated a lot younger... several have expressed how lucky they feel... some of us older guys have a lot of experience in relationships and have a lot of wisdom, empathy, support and great life stories... as well as being somewhat career and financially successful, and being in great shape and generally physically attractive... would I have preferred for my 21 year marriage with 4 kids to work... of course... There is also something to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 07:34 PM
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I’m a white dude... never understood the fascination with Asian women... I judge each person on their own merits... it was always a turnoff to me if I felt someone gave me or other dudes points because of their skin color... i considered those people fake and status climbers... which no offense, is one of my biggest turnoffs with a lot of Asian women I know... the status chasing... like my ex, who is blond and blue eyes, some of her Asian friends I felt used her for status... I mean they were de…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/20 01:57 AM
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Ok I watched this video more than a year ago... it was pretty hard to listen to... it talks about exactly what you are suggesting, and almost the fact that marriage is settling... anyways I don’t know if I can post the link, but I’ll try.... obviously there are many that don’t experience this as is attested to by some of the comments on this thread.... But I think it might be the unpleasant truth for many.... https://youtu.be/_0rczdj_ngM
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 10:10 AM
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Withholding sex in a ltr can be psychologically damaging to a partner... in essence that is withholding attention... which can lead to arguing about housework and everything else... if the sexual needs are met... guaranteed there is less emotional pain... Do not think for a second that sex in a ltr is purely a physical act... it is very much an emotional connection/rejection and the pain is real if it’s being rejected by your partner, who if you are in a monogamous relationship, is the only one …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 03:27 PM
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Phantom of the Opera... doesn’t the Phantom win the girl and the good guy loses her?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 01:17 PM
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I suppose there may be people like that... but if someone were assigned against their will, then it wouldn’t be a very enjoyable relationship...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 06:02 PM
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How are they assigned? Someone has to ask and the other person has to say yes? I understand in some religions the parents decide... but most of the western world a woman is courted by many men and she selects her best suitor if she wants... or she doesn’t and waits for someone else to come along, who maybe does come along or doesn’t? I’m not aware of forced marriages being a thing... except for a long time ago there was a shotgun wedding if a girl got pregnant... or Hindu arraigned marriages... …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 05:59 PM
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Look into it... I’m living it... :/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 02:56 PM
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Alimony is life long in some states, if the person never remarries...in California, after 10 years, it is life long alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 02:49 PM
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And what makes it worse, if you live somewhere like California, you get to pay alimony for life, shit ton of child support and only see your kids part time... you are paying for her bang other dudes... since she was a stay at home mom to take care of the 4 kids... the courts make you pay up. You end up living in a apartment, barely affording to live, while paying for them to fuck around...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/12/19 04:13 PM
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They also have power over most other men... it’s only a tiny percent of men who have this power... both women and the majority of men are subjugate to these top men... women think because there are men at the top, then all men have this power... not so...it’s just a tiny percent and the rest of the men are their work slaves...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 04:36 PM
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yes low drama... also actually enjoy spending time together, actually think he is funny etc... appreciate him... all without being needy...
/r/RedPillWomen04/10/19 09:45 AM
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This right here...
/r/RedPillWomen04/10/19 09:43 AM
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That’s been said on Reddit for a long time...
/r/MGTOW29/08/19 04:04 AM
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Curious to see how it goes for you.
/r/MGTOW01/06/19 06:40 AM
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He will appreciate it. He will think it over, over a period of months probably... but it will be super positive for him to know that you see and appreciate what he is going through and that there might be another way.... guaranteed he will like reading or watching some of the online content, even as a stress relief
/r/MGTOW01/06/19 04:30 AM
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I don’t know... I’m a dad, 4 kids, was pretty miserable, depressed etc... talk to him, tell him you love him and want him to be happy, and you have been reading a lot about mgtow... honestly he might actually appreciate some support and that one of his kids sees him for more than a workhorse... he is your dad, he will always love you, give it a shot, he is worth it...
/r/MGTOW29/05/19 07:41 AM
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I represented myself in an ex-parte, no money for lawyer... got some help preparing docs etc from my lawyer friend... her lawyer settled before the second hearing... it was a hearing for custody, child support, alimony, other things... this was last summer... I was very nervous but well prepared... It came out well for me... I do have a lawyer now to finish off the divorce, but 450 an hour is completely insane... and I know they are going to come after me for her legal expenses at 350/hr... I’ll…
/r/MGTOW06/02/19 08:31 AM
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Actually it’s not where you get married it’s where you get divorced... you could get married in a state that doesn’t have lifetime alimony and then move to another state and then get f’d... I never signed a marriage contract in California, but since we moved here for work etc and she filed here, I have to abide by their laws when I never signed any such contract... in fact when I got married in 1998 I never saw any contract or terms or anything... it was a couple of lines saying you were married…
/r/MGTOW03/02/19 04:48 AM
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Back rubs might be better
/r/MGTOW03/02/19 04:26 AM
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I am only correcting part of the statement where he says he is born alone ... I do think we mostly die alone... and at one point we live alone... probably age 7 and up...marriage and relationships seem to be a delusion that we somehow have a partner that is with us in good times and bad... but reality is we are pretty much alone from an early age, and rarely does anyone give a fuck about anyone else... the difficulty is letting go of the societal brainwashing and learning that a wife can full on…
/r/MGTOW31/01/19 03:31 PM
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Don’t know anything about the book, but as far as being born alone... that’s pretty much impossible... everyone had at least a mother with them when they were born, likely a dr and a nurse or two... but bare minimum a mom... and the mom fed him, changed his diaper etc for many months or years... she may have abandoned him later, but it was doubtful that it was a birth...
/r/MGTOW31/01/19 03:12 PM
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Mental health also... mindset... this will set you up for a life of personal fulfillment... staying as fit as you can with exercise part of your lifestyle everyday, clean foods, and financially intelligent with the goal of first creating a 6 month living expenses savings, and then eventually having fu money... as the others have said, strong network of high character people and really respect and honor yourself as a person- boundaries, etc
/r/MGTOW20/01/19 06:54 PM
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Rent - see comment below discussing costs of home ownership... I’ve owned many houses and it is a farce - all the upkeep and repairs... absolutely love living in an apartment now... it’s a nice one though- but still love not having to do upkeep and repairs...
/r/MGTOW13/01/19 04:00 AM
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Maybe some opportunities to start some businesses and provide value/employment that way? Solve some interesting problems? Just because? :)
/r/MGTOW08/01/19 08:53 AM
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Why does that make a difference?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/12/18 07:13 PM
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Genetics also... I’ve seen some even in their early 50’s that are smoking hot and crush most women 20-30 years younger than themselves... my ex is 40, we were together 20 years... we have 4 kids together and she is still 95 lbs and 5’3”... I saw her profile on Tinder a few months back, they had her subtitled as “Athlete”... Tinder obviously has an AI that determines that, so the AI they use thought she was an athlete... I took a screenshot and sent it to her, she thought it was dumb that it said…
/r/MGTOW26/12/18 09:38 AM
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And 5 years is not that long... especially when considering marriage and divorce laws, alimony etc... how many have been married 20 years, 30 years etc... anyone can be together 5 years... but marriage is supposed to be for life...
/r/MGTOW26/12/18 08:47 AM
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Literally the only thing I got from my children was a pair of socks and 5 homemade cookies. :) that was after they almost didn’t visit because they didn’t think I had presents for them... :/ 3 teenage daughters, can be sweet, but the entitlement is real. 9 year old son is amazing... the only one who stayed all day and night with me... I actually don’t really care about the gifts at all, and generally hate the commercialism etc... but it fit so well into the original post... like exactly...
/r/MGTOW26/12/18 07:51 AM
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Right, I was just commenting on people telling you to tell your dad etc... definitely eye opening to see something so different than what you had imagined... kinda rocks your world... I have had a few of these too... but it’s good that you saw it with your own eyes and now you know how women actually view Chad...
/r/MGTOW18/12/18 12:05 AM
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Let it go... you learned your lesson... you instigated this... your mom did nothing wrong... she stopped it... acted like anyone would... no need to throw your mom and your friend under the bus... now you know reality...
/r/MGTOW17/12/18 01:56 AM
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Since men are toxic, they should be glad we aren’t Marrying them. In fact why would they want to be around such horrible creatures anyways... /s
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/12/18 03:34 AM
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Yes that’s a classic, hits on all the points. Chill. I identify more with Rage lol... expressed my emotions a bit more lol. But yeah Billy Joel is great, too bad he got f’d over by women so much....
/r/MGTOW24/11/18 11:20 PM
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K I’ll check it out.
/r/MGTOW24/11/18 11:13 PM
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About 3:40 in is where it kicks in...
/r/MGTOW24/11/18 10:36 PM
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Can confirm!
/r/MGTOW25/09/18 12:27 AM
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Also, just because they make more, because they are slaving away to provide, I’m sure they have a lot less saved. Make more, but save less, and less time to do what you want.
/r/MGTOW21/09/18 12:14 AM
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At 19 it would be immoral to shame you into taking this responsibility. You are still a child, really, not being mean. You are still figuring out your life, the last thing in the world you would need is to take on someone else’s burden and enslave yourself to some kind of sick virtue of rescuing someone who doesn’t have a spouse through her own choices. They might be shaming you, but until they step up and take on her burden then they have no room to talk. And even if they did take that burden o…
/r/MGTOW04/09/18 06:07 AM
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Every time she complains just offer to come and take them for a day or two... to give her a break.. ;) now, document this, when it comes to child support, you can use this to your advantage... to get more custody and essentially pay less child support. Also, if she doesn’t let you take them, then soon enough she will stop complaining to you when you say, let me come get them, every single time...
/r/MGTOW05/08/18 02:54 AM
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Just like Disney teaches...
/r/MGTOW05/08/18 12:16 AM
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This is it, they don’t experience it the same way guys do... they can move on very quickly... as provider protectors men dedicate their existence to the spouse, where the woman is the slave master... more of an inconvenience for her when it falls apart, for the guy it is typically devastating... so when the say get back on the horse, they literally don’t get it...
/r/MGTOW05/08/18 12:02 AM
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Finally! Damn I hope he sticks around this time...
/r/MGTOW04/08/18 11:56 PM
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The difference is that she doesn’t care how many people he slept with, and he does care how and who she slept with... that’s it... it’s his preference... she likes tall and muscular- that’s her preference... a woman typically rates a guy who has been around as desired... a guy knows that most guys will sleep with most girls... so it doesn’t show she is desired, just cheap and easy...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/07/18 11:27 PM
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Can you reach out to your dad? Become close to him again? Share stories etc? I bet he would love to have a close relationship with you.
/r/MGTOW30/06/18 08:32 PM
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Awesome! I am working for full custody right now...
/r/MGTOW30/06/18 08:30 PM
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Any tips on not getting divorce raped?
/r/MGTOW30/06/18 08:29 PM
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Exactly, hang in there... 8 years will go by fast ...
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 02:30 AM
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Glad you have a bed... peace to you...
/r/MGTOW27/06/18 02:29 AM
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Exactly the way I see it...
/r/MGTOW26/06/18 10:50 PM
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Thank you... I think about it all the time:) I don’t feel like I can leave my children high and dry... that would be lifelong traumatizing for them... I love them too much... if they came with, absolutely:)
/r/MGTOW26/06/18 10:49 PM
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Thanks man... I have an 8 year old son... I could never abandon him live that... we are bros...
/r/MGTOW26/06/18 10:47 PM
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Exactly!!! This is why I share... to educate and to save lives!!!
/r/MGTOW26/06/18 10:46 PM
2

There are some seriously questionable ethics for this... my take is that if you married someone because you like what they offer, then if you don’t want to be married anymore, you give up the resources- no more cash and prizes for her, and no more intimacy for you... that’s the way it should work... this permanent resource extraction is devoid of any morality and violates the terms of “love and marriage” as most of us dealing with this were just ignorant saps and not informed of the rules of the…
/r/MGTOW26/06/18 10:35 AM
2

Right. Just seems like a lot of risk... maybe easier would be to set her up with a bunch of guys and tell them how great she is... if they get married you are off the hook for alimony too... :)
/r/MGTOW26/06/18 10:29 AM
7

Child support for ten more years, alimony for life... thanks California!!! :/
/r/MGTOW26/06/18 06:35 AM
105

Yep I’m with you... exact same situation... but 20 years together and 4 kids... I am a decently successful engineer at one top 4 multi national tech companies... I literally slept on the airport floor last night, because I needed the 100 dollars to make rent in a week... then I will use my AMEX points for groceries until I get enough financial coverage on the 15th... rinse and Repeat... totally sucks and completely nuts to be fucked over like this... emotionally I’m doing better, but the pain ha…
/r/MGTOW26/06/18 05:55 AM
28

I definitely understand the rage... I know it’s infuriating.. but is there anyway to let go a bit...? Just because you deserve better, mentally, emotionally etc... it’s hard to break out for sure... but just some encouragement for you to not do something that would potentially destroy your future even more..
/r/MGTOW26/06/18 04:57 AM
2

Yes... but good luck on that... that is a major risk that could destroy your life even more... especially when there are kids and other family etc... you would have to be a literal sociopath to get away with something like that... I’m sure people do... but it seems Like an obvious red flag - is there a motive? Uhh yea the ex was paying alimony... to easy to go after... the risk reward is crap too... maybe in some countries where the punishment isn’t life in prison or death penalty... and if you …
/r/MGTOW26/06/18 04:50 AM
1

We don’t actually have a choice... the law comes after you to pay... you can be jailed if you don’t... also if you decide you don’t want to work as hard anymore they will impune wages to you... which basically says, you should be able to make X based on your skills etc so we are going to require you to pay that amount whether or not you Make that much... it goes on as assigned debt to you... literally you are a slave to the ex and the state...
/r/MGTOW26/06/18 04:40 AM
1

Dude you crack me up... love the energy and the all out roasting... 3 or 4 a day... you had me dying every time I opened YouTube and you were killing it on subscribers... if you can stay alive on YouTube you will probably be the fastest to 100k... also, why haven’t you done a Patreon account? I know you like paypal but a lot of us prefer Patreon, easy to do a monthly thing also...
/r/MGTOW24/06/18 02:45 PM
2

Undeadchronic is a riot on YouTube
/r/MGTOW24/06/18 02:25 PM
1

What happened to the YouTube channel?
/r/MGTOW24/06/18 02:09 PM
3

How long have you been divorced?
/r/MGTOW19/06/18 08:51 PM
2

Well my understanding is that women drive 80 percent of consumption... also they watch a lot of tv and follow social media, so I am not seeing how you are going to take the materialism out of the marriage...
/r/MGTOW17/06/18 08:20 PM
12

How about never having cheated on a partner...
/r/MGTOW17/06/18 06:11 PM
1

From the article- So proud to have been a part of it," she wrote, adding, "aren't women just amazing." That’s a pretty low standard for being amazing... take your clothes of for a 5 minute skinny dip... absolutely amazing... /s
/r/MGTOW12/06/18 10:26 PM
1

Funny cause she talks about values - age, height... I would consider those preferences not values... she said I don’t want to bend my values... I wouldn’t call being “not one month younger” than her a value...but a preference... also very average looking... truly shows entitlement...and half of the questions or criteria were not meaningful to a relationship, really... maybe sexual deviance I guess for compatibility, and kids? What about character and things like that... regardless I’m glad I don…
/r/MGTOW12/06/18 10:11 PM
2

The messed up thing here is that finances change for everyone... except for the person getting a free ride.. and when the person paying has bad luck with their income they go to jail... sounds like debtors prison to me...
/r/MGTOW12/06/18 09:22 PM
3

How about... well be glad for that, otherwise no guys would go out with you... ;)
/r/MGTOW11/06/18 08:05 PM
3

Try to accept him where he is, it’s hard to change a lifetime of behavior... if you love him and appreciate your relationship with him, no reason to cut him off. Just have boundaries and you don’t have to convert him to your way of thinking... just embrace the good parts and agree to disagree on the other parts... as far as your mom... depends on what you want, but clearly you have set boundaries...and that is good... you could tell your dad, hey I love you and want to keep our relationship, let…
/r/MGTOW10/06/18 06:49 AM
1

Exactly this... usually non consensual and if there is consent it is under duress of divorce, or after the fact that the cheating has occurred and will continue...
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 08:00 AM
3

Well enjoy your hair... some of us don’t have all of it anymore... because of that, I would say long, just to appreciate what you have...
/r/MGTOW08/06/18 06:29 PM
2

After 18 years of marriage and 4 kids... painful...
/r/MGTOW05/06/18 09:24 PM
2

I’m with you... 48k a year... 3 years now... 3 kids... youngest is 8... this is after tax... so basically I’m left to live like a poor man... obviously no one gives a shit... pre tax it is a little over 60k
/r/MGTOW16/05/18 03:31 AM
2

BMW 650 coupe
/r/MGTOW09/05/18 05:18 AM
2

I knew a decent looking polish woman here in California... she was I her late 30’s... master monkey brancher... hypergamist extraroidanaire (spelling off)
/r/MGTOW04/05/18 01:01 AM
1

Looks like it’s before tip too.. so probably another 60 to 80 dollars on top of that
/r/MGTOW27/04/18 01:24 AM
12

Yea...no... not fuckable at...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/18 10:46 PM
2

Pretty crappy situation...
/r/MGTOW22/04/18 11:39 PM
3

They do talk a bit about other countries and how they will have the same issues... however I’m sure it’s because of the sheer numbers of men that they focus on these two countries...
/r/MGTOW22/04/18 07:21 PM
2

Exactly!!! This is one of the obvious MGTOW knowns, females drive consumption, and now they have all these males which are not consuming and driving the economy through purchasing shiny things...
/r/MGTOW22/04/18 07:20 PM
1

Also because we are working and it’s difficult to get time off of a luxury... women either don’t work- are being financed by spouse or ex, or they just don’t mind missing work.
/r/MGTOW13/04/18 02:19 AM
1

Ok here is something that is a reality that took me a while to learn... jobs and promotions are not necessarily for the hardest working or most productive... there is this social element where you need to fit into the culture etc... your boss has to like you, your coworkers usually have to think highly of you... so there is this element of politics etc that has to be played to survive... if you figure that part out you will do well if productive... you are playing a perception game... how are yo…
/r/MGTOW10/04/18 12:47 AM
1

Worth trying to educate her
/r/MGTOW07/04/18 02:10 AM
7

Every time I see a couple out on a date, holding hands, whatever, I feel sorry for the guy... I imagine how it is when they are not in public, and what she is doing behind his back... granted some guys are dicks too...
/r/MGTOW20/03/18 12:41 AM
9

Definitely- was married to one for 20 years... i know many Mormon guys who have lived the exact experience of nagging, being cheated on, lack of sex, always wanting more, never living up to princess’s expectations... they put on a good face, then once you are married it’s the same bullshit
/r/MGTOW13/03/18 08:34 PM
5

1 hour from there... love that whole area...
/r/MGTOW13/03/18 05:39 AM
1

Why bother with marriage anymore...
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 07:25 AM
4

The other thing to understand, as you bring them into your higher status world, their options will open up, and they will see only the Good in other relationships and only the bad in yours... and her friends will help her understand how she is actually getting the shaft and that she deserves much better... (of course she will actually just end up a single mom)
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 03:59 AM
4

The guy can pay attention til the cows come home... she will claim he was too attentive...it just doesn’t matter... he paid attention in the wrong way... or We has a great relationship but when he went to work, I was bored and my old high school friend contacted me... just as friends... we went to lunch? And I’m really sorry but one thing led to another and now it’s been a year... and they will cry and make excuses... but never say that they are disloyal and a piece of shit... the paying attenti…
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 03:33 AM
2

The hard truth... is women are always right in their mind, they will justify anything they want... little to no accountability, Blame their spouse for their choices and at least as far as a relationship, don’t seem to have the capacity to love the person... truly their love is based on status, provider and entertainment... as long as you meet all of their every changing needs, they will love you... but even with that, doesn’t mean they will be faithful... it’s reality today... and I say that aft…
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 03:09 AM
7

Sometimes lower if it got them something they were missing or had a fetish for... like a fireman or a black cock... whatever they think they want... and think they can get away with... say they were upper class and they always fantasized about tattooed fireman... or a pool boy...
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 02:59 AM
10

Absolutely... no question... if they think they can get away with it they will rationalize anything... and if you find out and divorce, they get more of your assets than you do...
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 02:51 AM
1

Retrain your brain - hypnosisdownloads dot com
/r/MGTOW28/02/18 04:06 AM
3

The lack of ethics and loyalty to a friend is outstanding... low class for sure... not a friend...
/r/MGTOW25/02/18 08:09 AM
2

20 years for me... same story... 3 years single now...
/r/MGTOW23/02/18 05:37 AM
1

This one was ice-t first? https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/99-problems/358057502?i=358057796
/r/MGTOW23/02/18 01:38 AM
4

99 problems but a bitch ain’t one... J-Z
/r/MGTOW22/02/18 04:40 AM
4

Depending on which state you live in, around age 14 they let you choose which parent you want to live with in a divorce... and they can’t force you to visit the other one if you don’t want to... my understanding is that in California this went through the courts and that was the outcome... so in theory your dad could divorce now, you could live with him, no child support for him cause you would live with him, and you would never have to visit her... I know my 8 year old son sure loves it at my p…
/r/MGTOW20/02/18 02:46 AM
5

Definitely goes away... it was tough for me the first couple of years after my divorce ( married 20 years) sometimes it gets lonely, but I’m lucky that I have kids- youngest 8 and 13... and I’ve re-established friendships with some college buddies... keep at it and just know over time it definitely gets better
/r/MGTOW26/01/18 03:15 AM
4

Modafinil with black coffee
/r/MGTOW18/01/18 04:03 AM
3

On top of that those dresses are fairly homely looking.... i was also thinking, how embarrassing it would be to have an article like this which featured your life... with your photo etc... and not even realize how entitled you were sounding, but now it’s out there... I am doubtful that any guy they are describing as meeting their criteria would be interested in someone so entitled and devoid of self awareness regarding how they come across...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/01/18 10:47 PM
2

Of course the men will be choosy if given the option ... but they make that out to be a bad thing, while at they same time they are being extremely choosy... blatant hypocrisy...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/01/18 10:20 PM
2

Probably right... I wouldn’t be interested in them either... but their arrogance is nuts... definitely delusional about what they bring to the table...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/01/18 11:32 AM
30

This article is ridiculous... those women in the photos are not anything special... they pretend they are amazing and so beautiful... 5 to 6’s at best... and look at what they are asking for... so entitled and bitchy... honestly who would want to date someone so stuck on themselves....
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/01/18 04:31 AM
11

Yea it’s pretty interesting... I am 50, in real life decently attractive and fit, well educated, great upbringing etc.. not super photogenic, so online photos are not amazing.... but in real life have decent success with women... of all ages between 19-60... also decently successful financially by many people’s standards... 200k plus a year... 6’1” 195lbs... I have many women tell me I am attractive, but usually only in real life... my standards are not low... I was married for 20 years to what …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/01/18 03:40 AM
2

Dude is cringe
/r/MGTOW03/01/18 11:24 PM
1

I sometimes get depressed over the holidays... my kids are still back and forth between me and ex... I appreciate quiet... but I also miss Christmas morning with my children... we had a pretty good family for a lot of years... so sometimes it gets depressing. I even have some business stuff I need to get done, but I find myself listening to sandman or someone like him or reading here... and then a day goes by without doing the things I had planned on :( then I feel like shit for not using my day…
/r/MGTOW01/01/18 04:55 AM
1

Exactly, don’t spend money, but learn as much as you can about starting businesses and entrepreneurship as possible, and when you are ready, you will have the knowledge base needed to get started in the right foot...
/r/MGTOW28/12/17 12:59 AM
2

Start a business.
/r/MGTOW27/12/17 11:38 PM
1

Shows what a bunch of work and hassle it is just to meet people, let alone a relationship, let alone a life long one...
/r/MGTOW24/12/17 05:22 PM
2

There is some research where if men orgasm 5 times a week minimum it reduces the risk for prostate cancer by something like 20 percent... I’ll see if I can find a link... but with this info... seems like nofap is high risk...
/r/MGTOW22/12/17 10:44 PM
24

Educate him about the true nature of women... awalt
/r/MGTOW22/12/17 10:39 PM
3

If not yet, soon enough.. not even a question...
/r/MGTOW22/12/17 05:20 AM
7

Absolutely!!! This is not a marriage contract. Truthfully, I’ve worked with some pretty decent white collar women. They can actually be good at reading people and sifting out bullshit... so if you are doing the heavy lifting, she will probably appreciate you. That’s my experience anyways... I’ve had some backstabbing men bosses... so why not give it a try. You can always leave and then you will have a higher salary you can negotiate from...
/r/MGTOW22/12/17 05:05 AM
1

About 2 miles from it
/r/MGTOW21/12/17 05:31 PM
1

I’m in Santa Ana, near Costa Mesa during the week... but I stay at a hotel... some of the studios across the street here are 4-6k a month...
/r/MGTOW21/12/17 05:05 PM
2

What were the pm’s saying... that they knew you?
/r/MGTOW18/12/17 04:17 AM
1

Seems like someone could make a living doing that and never even meet the people... I had had plenty of females flat out ask me for money... after texting you bit... it really is nuts... They always have a really sad story, sometimes involving not having money for Christmas for their kid... lol no shame now a days... but it must work... cause they are out there doing it...
/r/MGTOW18/12/17 04:10 AM
0

Evidence is probably too strong if a word
/r/MGTOW18/12/17 03:18 AM
4

Any link to the study? If the study matches, this is pretty nice biological evidence of how we are where we are...
/r/MGTOW18/12/17 03:17 AM
1

Haha my plane just landed and it showed up - had to respond
/r/MGTOW18/12/17 03:14 AM
43

At least she’s honest... :)
/r/MGTOW18/12/17 03:12 AM
11

Don’t forget Twilight
/r/MGTOW18/12/17 02:08 AM
8

That makes perfect sense!!!
/r/MGTOW17/12/17 02:47 AM
0

I don’t know about her personal life... but I do like her assessment of women today... I am guessing you are saying she is the same... and perhaps that is true...
/r/MGTOW16/12/17 09:33 PM
1

I look for truth wherever it is... reality is reality, marriage as an institution is a crock... opening my eyes in the religious areas meant opening them in all areas...and marriage is the worst... especially for men...
/r/MGTOW06/12/17 08:37 AM
1

I agree with you, just too stupid to know any better. No forums like this, etc. I was stupid back then too. Ignorant about this stuff. Brainwashed from a kid that a provider is the best path. Internet was fairly new so knowledge acquisition wasn’t ubiquitous as it is now. Nowadays there is so much information readily available that there really is no excuse. Back in 97 I was so ignorant about things that it never even crossed my mind that a divorce was possible. I didn’t know anyone who was divo…
/r/MGTOW06/12/17 08:30 AM
1

Must definitely be a different bank
/r/MGTOW06/12/17 04:32 AM
1

Ex Mormon myself, saw the light only 3 years ago after my brother died. Do yourself a favor and get the fuck out. 20 years later and I’m fucked, but happier than hell that the bullshit is ending... no reason at all to stick around, she is obviously a nutcase. Clearly we were brainwashed from birth, so it’s a hard pill to swallow... it’ll be hard but save yourself years of anguish... I remember the first night I spent in my barren apartment and waking up in the morning with a big smile on my face…
/r/MGTOW06/12/17 04:30 AM
1

Crazy right. The entitlement is large... pretty much that seems like a good play...
/r/MGTOW06/12/17 01:06 AM
3

Exactly, she isn’t looking to work more or anything like that. She is just looking for me to save her.
/r/MGTOW06/12/17 12:44 AM
8

Yes she is exactly like that. She does that shit all the time. In fact I’m sure she already told them that they can’t have a Christmas because their dad is an asshole.
/r/MGTOW06/12/17 12:43 AM
4

Last week I put in 84 hours... not a normal week but yes for her, 20 hours is probably too much...
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 11:11 PM
38

With four kids the youngest being 8, more like retire in my 70’s or 80’s with a nice vacation home 6 feet under...
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 10:53 PM
5

She’s definitely gone down that route... always accusing me of having money that I’m not disclosing... in fact her mom tried to help her by dividing my salary by 12 and showing her how she is not getting as much as she deserves...
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 10:51 PM
7

Nope, in her mind I will pay forever. Which are her exact words in today’s later texts...
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 09:29 PM
10

And always uses that she gave me children so I will always owe her...
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 09:27 PM
5

Married for 20 years, that’s how we did it back then...
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 09:26 PM
19

Also not grateful what I do provide. Never enough.
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 09:24 PM
2

Count your blessings, 20 plus years...
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 09:23 PM
54

You got that right! 200k plus a year and soaks me for every cent...
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 09:22 PM
27

We do have separate accounts but this one is for the joint expenses... kids stuff, car payments etc... she is probably also hoping I will use some cash from my other account... but I’m not... for me it felt great to say just stop spending... previously I would have responded in a way that tried to help her, or come up with a solution to get more money etc. for some reason it made me smile to say stop spending... with no additional offers of help...
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 06:54 PM
29

Probably true... not really looking for compassion here either, just putting up data points for awalt... and alerting others to help them avoid similar scenarios...
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 06:04 PM
58

Truth is, that’s exactly what she means... that’s why I suggested something different when we first separated she wanted me to get a studio apartment in a shady part of town while she stayed in the very nice part of town with 3 bedroom 2 baths... and of course the kids would never want to stay over if I stayed there in a studio... :)
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 05:30 PM
4

Absolutely, that is the crazy thing, that she could even imagine that I️ want to spend my vacation with her, let alone pay for her to come and nag for a whole week... I️ told her- you should take the kids on a vacation with the money you have saved... her response. I️ don’t have enough- my response, well when you do have enough, I’m sure you and the kids will have a great Time... what’s great about learning the true nature of women, is that in the past I️ would have consoled her, now she gets no…
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 06:30 PM
3

It’s good to be a victim... problem was I️ did help with all that stuff before... so now she is on her own... and definitely not happier... :)
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 11:32 AM
5

I’m on the right, ex is on the left. The kids are plenty old enough, 16. 13 and 8. I️ don’t know why she didn’t just ask them for help. Like really, it’s that difficult??? But she needs something to be upset about...
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 11:12 AM
7

Not anymore, but still looking for handouts
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 09:53 AM
6

Exactly and I️ don’t even live there, unbelievable
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 09:53 AM
7

You are!!! Stay away!!!
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 09:52 AM
6

Thx man! This is definitely normal behavior. I’m taking my 3 youngest to Tokyo tomorrow for a week.. so she is pissed that it’s the first family vacation she is not going on
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 07:56 AM
8

They were empty suitcases, lol... and I️ even took her garbage out for her when I️ was there... haha omg so glad she is not coming with...
/r/MGTOW17/11/17 06:27 AM
17

It’s interesting because part of the reason my ex wanted a divorce is because she didn’t like the way she treated me. She didn’t like how it made her feel when she was a bitch to me, so hey, instead of being nice, just file for divorce after 20 years and four kids....
/r/MGTOW14/11/17 01:01 AM
1

Notice at the end of the article it says she has not been charged with a crime. So the victims family will probably settle for millions-paid for by taxes... and she only loses her job... seems about right /s
/r/MGTOW09/11/17 11:44 AM
2

Additionally, claiming that men sleep with sluts then marry a wife type later, typically it is just that top tier group of guys that sleep around. The bottom 80 percent don’t have the luxury, whereas it’s shown over and over that low end females have the ability to sleep with top tier guys. So it seems that women justify their sexual behavior based on their perception of male promiscuity, but their perception is based on the top tier make behaviors.... they generalize male behavior based on a sm…
/r/MGTOW09/11/17 11:24 AM
1

When they say “you can’t get a good woman” reply, I have met many women, but few “good women” or something along those lines...
/r/MGTOW04/11/17 04:18 PM
2

I have 4 kids. 20 years married, now going through divorce... been separated almost 3 years. I had a great experience growing up, great parents and family life. I truly love being a Dad. Been one of the most meaningful things for me. My 18, 16 and 13 year olds are all girls, the 8 year Old is my boy. :). Girls, especially teenage girls are extremely challenging Haha. Their mom is very anti patriarchy etc so I have to work through a lot of bs all the time, re educating them on how their dad isn’t…
/r/MGTOW27/10/17 01:32 PM
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