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I sort of agree, and obviously the fight for feminism was much more severe than what I’m describing now. But there is a big difference. The fight for feminism was a fight for tangible change that had a clear direct benefit for those fighting. Laws for voting, right to work, etc. The fight against patriarchal norms is more social, so there’s no solid tangible goal to push towards. There’s no law to pass here. And there isn’t a clear benefit to the men that fight for this. Again, when a man breaks…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:11 AM

People are responding “Uh duh OP, that’s just patriarchal norms”, but they’re missing an important point…. Yes, these are patriarchal norms, but the thing about societal norms is they don’t change easily. A lot of people enforce these norms, men and women both. These norms show up in almost every facet of life. Real interactions, social media, entertainment, politics, etc. Of course I would love if the harsh standards against me to conform to a specific image of manhoood went away….but not enoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:12 PM
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Thats a really good point, and something I've been trying to articulate. If you took every incel talking point, and just reframed it from a female perspective, you'd get loads of support and sympathy. And I know this, because I've seen just that exact thing in a lot of female support groups. Women will mention feeling socially outcast growing up, insecure about their bodies, feeling undesirable in dating, etc, and the world will call for a massive social push to acknowledge these issues. Men wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:56 PM

From my understanding.... That the average person could expect to have a stable income, safe home, and a family to build. That as a community, we'd be social enough to be able to meet our life partners. I mean fact is, people see romance and family as the main goal in live. Love is one of the most defining emotions. And without it, many feel like life has no goal. So yeah....I think its fair to say in a world where people don't even have faith in trying to meet someone, something in our social c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 08:44 PM

This idea's been brought up before, and while you may be technically correct that this is becoming more common....god its bleak. I mean Jesus, no wonder the incel mindset is becoming more common amongst young men. Our new advice for lonely guys is just "Be alone and accept it"? You'll have nothing and be happy? The most cliche dystopian idea is now our new self-help motto? I mean, putting aside how cruel this is to these men already....what does this spell for society as a whole? Fact is, people…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 08:22 PM
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Yeah, this post confuses me. The big problem guys are facing with dating today is specifically the fact that it feels like a competition. That social media and online dating have turned dating into a grocery list where you're more of a product to compare than a person. Its why the "incels" or red-pillers get so obsessed with specific traits, like height, status, income, etc. Because that's the competition they were forced into.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 06:52 PM
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So what happens when you never get those signals? What happens if you try your best to look for natural opportunities (Her body language and conversation show interest, etc) and you just never get them? I'm not saying this for some "gotcha" moment. I'm legitimately wondering. This whole issue around dating is because men can't seem to get a women's interest. What happens then?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 05:50 PM
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The reality is that being attractive to someone involves having qualities that don't really have anything to do with being a "good" person. To add, another uncomfortable thing blue pillers don't like admitting is that sometimes outright bad qualities can win in dating. People hate incels for saying "Nice guys finish last"...but honestly, they're kind of right. Studies show "dark triad traits", or whatever they're actually called do succeed in dating. That arrogance will sometimes attract more th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 03:21 AM
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Yeah, we can blame the incels/redpillers all we want...but their thought process didn't show up out of nowhere. Society is so quick to call these men "insecure" like its an insult....but its actually pretty valid. Imagine being a guy who tries his hardest to be desirable. Going to the gym, doing skincare and grooming, being sociable and having a variety of hobbies...and then just seeing some guy easily get any woman he wants cause he's 6'5, lol. Yeah, I'd imagine a guy would end up insecure and …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:40 PM
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Which honestly, kinda' justifies the jealousy and insecurities incels/redpillers. Society is so quick to call these men "insecure" like its an insult....but its actually pretty valid. Imagine being a guy who tries his hardest to be desirable. Going to the gym, doing skincare and grooming, being sociable and having a variety of hobbies...and then just seeing some guy easily pick up random women at the bar cause he's 6'5. Lol, I can't even blame the incels sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:38 PM
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Thanks for mentioning this. This is the big issue with the whole "just be confident" advice people give. If a guy didn't grow up with easy confidence, and has his own insecurities (Whether due to body image, bullying, etc.), its not like confidence is just some easy switch he can activate. It is a form of emotional labor, and one that can't be kept up forever. We're so quick to call guys "insecure" as an insult...but think about how cruel that is for a second. Insecurity is a valid emotion that …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:24 PM
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Seriously, what the hell was OP's point with that comment, lol? Its such a cruel, self-fulfilling worldview. We attach certain physical traits to negative characteristics, then blame people with those physical traits for being insecure. The "Napoleon Syndrome" shit proves this so much. Short guys get belittled, bullied, and emasculated. So they're on edge to keep their confidence up. But doing so invites attacks from people who can't accept a man like that being confident. Jesus, I wasn't a red-…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 05:23 PM
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Yeah, I can't imagine this subreddit would even care if this dude was 5'4 with norwood 3. You really wanna' see how socially acceptable it is for women to be cruel to a random guy? Look at videos where the guy looks like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:56 AM
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If attractive men are in demand, it's only natural that they capitalise. To add though, I think another issue that men are understandably annoyed with is that the standard of an "attractive" man seems to have changed. Like, look at some of the leading men in Hollywood a few decades ago. There's quite a bit of variety in height, facial structure, muscle mass, etc. There was still a desire for attractive men, but the threshold for a good looking man was more reasonable. Its almost like during the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:49 PM
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