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Roosh is pretty bitter. I don't think anyone can doubt his partner count is within the top 1% of males. Similarly for a bunch of pickup artists on youtube, including some of the RSD guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 08:54 AM
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I want to have a feminist girlfriend. Just to mess with her. :) Have you ever heard of RP's Hot and cold?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 08:49 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2s3r69/a_bp_view_trp_isnt_crazy/cnm9sum My rape comment. I still think anyone who thinks all no's from women mean no is dumb. Not to mention, people who are sensitive enough to farm rape convictions from obscure text.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/15 10:15 AM
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wait what? why and how do i do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 03:17 PM
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They're calling you a rapist. I didn't know abotu the thread(ironic that they start a non-gossip sub and the first order of business is to sit down and gossip), but I know about that bit. I'm actually quite famous on TBP. I'm the focus of a lot of blue pill's anger. For what its worth, I'm not a rapist. I just refused to explain myself. /r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2s3r69/a_bp_view_trp_isnt_crazy/cntlbrz?context=3
/r/TheRedPill07/03/15 07:46 PM
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Not even personality disorders. Read /u/throwinout's post below to see a number of good criticisms on what is considered narcissm here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 05:07 AM
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Thank you for your reply. You are one of my favourite RP ECs :) However, to your point about calling people out... that's actually a bannable offence on TRP. Advocating against dread for being abuse(if hypothetically I felt that way) or 'bro-knighting' etc are unacceptable practices I'm sure.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/15 02:55 AM
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Very good point. Struggling to find the words to express this, I just ended up spewing snark. : (
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 02:52 AM
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b. Sucky interpretation of statistical data. More narcisstists are male -> men are more narcisstic. Awesome! Hey, while we're at it: more geniuses are male -> men are more genial than women. See what I did there? Very good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/15 01:27 AM
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People pointing out brigades usually bring out common sense. Sansa Culotte is trolling. She is saying something that could only be upvoted by a TBP brigade.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 09:18 PM
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lol, brigade explains it. I mean, how pathetic do you have to be to need backup?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 08:40 PM
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Nice. Circlejerking in a science thread. Also, I love how every single time a BP comes up with a study, they rush to congratulate themselves and pat themselves on the back of how they're so much better than RP. Even though doing the exact same thing when studies come up where RP posts their evidence. Even though, arguably, RPers post evidence and data far more than BP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 08:08 PM
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even though the evidence suggests casual sex has the same consequences on men and women" seems like 'feels' to me. The thing is the evidence does not. You guys love this claim but really are nowhere near as comprehensive in proving this with evidence as RPers are. This is an arguable statement at best. The studies RPers post are plentiful and don't have BPers able to easily poke holes in their veracity because its based on divorce rates, STDs, diagnosed depression rates, prevalence of marriage c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 08:04 PM
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lol, rude or not. Its true. Most non-red debators are not TBP. Most TBP instigate circlejerking here. and I can bring up examples of everything i said. you believe what u like tho
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 06:29 PM
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Lets suppose you made a word called "idiot" to describe the phenomenon of idiots. Some dumbass then came along to take the moniker "idiot" to mock you. It doesn't mean other people can't be idiots anymore, but that one guy who took the moniker has most definitely hijacked the meaning of the word, and we're more than happy to let him have it. As it stands the definition of blue pill is thus: Blue pill Blue pill means "pertinent example of ignorant person or behaviour". Usually someone is only cal…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 04:43 PM
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lol, i think your opinions are kinda deluded and one-sided, but you are nice tho. I like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 04:31 PM
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All I heard was >in love, very happy > told us they mutual respect, and view each other as equals > Dad complimented mom, told his kids they could be anything > Dad cooked, Mom handled money > married 25 years Checkmate, TRP. What the even fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 04:23 PM
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TBPers literally exist to troll. They snark. You're drawing a false equivalence with a side who's self-stated purpose is to make bad jokes about the redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 03:51 PM
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I guess its dumb, but not strictly disallowed. However, in a science thread? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 03:50 PM
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But that question is so telling of his personality, that I think I'd be pretty put off. Your rants above were facepalm worthy enough, but I think this really takes the cake. Nice Hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 03:46 PM
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Cut out 2 and B (as they are mostly just back and forth internet discussion and not meant to be taken that seriously on TRP) and you have some pretty good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 04:25 AM
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Politically incorrect =/= trolling. You all come here with notions that if it diverges too strongly from your worldview, it must be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 04:17 AM
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Of course there exist women who are not into other women. I disagree with OP on the use of the word "all" with pedants like TBP around but seriously? You really think the body of the post, which contains study after study is talking about... ALL women? And if you provide one counter-example, you are making point?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 04:15 AM
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Its not so much conscious as ingrained. Being an "asshole" and applying abundance mentality is inherently a thrill, and an unashamed expression of what you want to say, with zero hangups on how good or bad things go. Being nice and making small talk, being considerate of what is awkward or offensive or pretending to care about what she does for a living is not. The latter I would say consists of 90% of BP dating. By using the word preoccupation you demonstrate how you immediately pathologize wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 03:03 AM
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Shitting where you study?
/r/askTRP06/03/15 02:57 AM
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Who the fuck is talking about you? Or your experience? Is this solipsism here satire or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 02:51 AM
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Lol, found this interesting. Sporadic sex differences emerged for physically attractive (see bolded Bs in Table 2); for example, men were more likely than women to initiate correspondence/ hanging out with matches they found physically attractive (.35 vs. .10), whereas women were more likely than men to enjoy corre- sponding/hanging out with matches they found physically attrac- tive (.22 vs. .11). Hot women are pursued but are so not fun. I agree with this so much. Women are rarely fun until se…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 02:43 AM
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Also, the better you get to know someone and the more you like them, the better-looking they tend to become. Small nitpick, but i'd like to say that this is a very female thing. Female sexuality is more fluid and has a greater mental component.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 02:24 AM
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I'm Indian, stop lecturing me about what you learned in your simplistic overreaching media portrayals. In the same vein, I could go on and on about how so many Americans are gangsters, rapists, prisoners, etc, etc, etc on average but still only really be talking about US lower class and minorities. While the Indian population at large faces tehse issues, the situation for people able to afford such a surgery is different. Women who do it usually are not the demographic that would ever face death…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 01:13 AM
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Sure, but its unneccessary. And it strikes women's sensibilities as weird. Women want to be in love and be as consciously out of control as possible. They want the man to handle them and create the experience. They largely don't want the nitty-gritty of having to despise betas consciously and then justify to society why she does that. They don't want to take advantage of their gender and the balance-exchange of sex and then feel bad and socially shamed. They don't want to seduce alphas and consc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 01:00 AM
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Now apply that analogy to knocking down your fellow interviewees self-confidence to get ahead. Or using social dominance to get your way with your boss. Implicitly, if not explicitly, blackmailing him with your resignation even when he plausibly has good intentions and needs you now, and has always done good by you in the past. Or try all of the above when your fellow interviewee or boss is your close friend and there is an unsaid social contract of trust and mutual benefit. This is where the RP…
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 03:55 PM
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Its a very weird, very official kind of removal too. Most bots remove comments by scanning them at submission. This one scans each edit too. Censorship conspiracy guys tested it for all mentions to "/r/TheRedPill" and other select links(I can't remember which, it was months ago). Sites like examiner[dot]com are also subject to this type of auto-removal, but this censorship is something only seen coming from reddit admins themselves. And is usually done sitewide. Really weird. You can still say "…
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 03:29 PM
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Women don't need sexual strategy. They have vast amounts of power to wield by default, and they are inherently manipulative(and I use this in a nice way) enough to employ it intelligently. Power for men in sexual relationships is usually acquired through effort or given through social norms. The only exceptions being when he uses force.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 02:35 PM
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10/10, I lol'd Though you come off as a tteeeeensy little self-pitying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 02:31 PM
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Its called a whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 02:18 PM
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Barring select places in the Middle East and India, people with the socioeconomic pull to afford the surgery aren't typically subject to that stereotypical fate. Nice try tho. And that still leaves the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 02:15 PM
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me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 02:13 PM
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There is a difference between men and women psychologically, and the significance is still up for debate, even after seeing your study. If you look under how they determined masculinity-assertiveness, its just self-reporting. Read this: The masculinity-assertiveness graph is based on self-reported measures of competitiveness, decisiveness, sense of superiority, persistence, confidence, and the ability to stand up under pressure. This is your evidence? Women rating themselves masculine and strong…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 11:49 PM
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this[1] peer reviewed publish study seems to go against their viewpoint. Ahahaaha. OH wow. Self-reported "masculinity-assertiveness". No, we have no comeback. This is just adorable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 11:44 PM
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Besides India and Middle East, it also happens a lot in China. And Japan/Korea/Taiwan/Singapore/Hong Kong/Malaysia/Indonesia/Vietnam/etc. Really really common. In fact, most of the world's population really. Anywhere where men are allowed to care about virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/15 04:25 AM
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Awkwardness only exists if you acknowledge it. Do not even give that factor your notice.
/r/askTRP03/03/15 01:04 AM
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Why shouldn't it be, if you clearly want different things from the relationship? Because its a double standard. Its like you're literally selectively reading the conversation. And you know what's funny? Most of these complaints seem to be coming from the goddamn feminists! Here we go again, fighting your battles for you? I meant to point out the 22x difference in response from the same website's audience. And yes, you're right. Universally feminists are the people fighting the dumbfuck battles, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 01:25 AM
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When you're BP, everything is provable via exceptions. Fuck off world. I've got this tribe to show you that if you really really really really try, it can be done differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 01:19 AM
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You and I are in the same boat(besides make up, man. get that checked). I actually RES mark a list of users to see if they've commented because they often create new content, and always contribute good, new interpretations if repeating stuff or making reminders. Most of my understanding of RP is formed by following the accounts of 1-2 dozen prominent RPers I agree with(and yes, among them are blogs like RationalMale, Pook and others).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 06:11 PM
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I just can't resist jumping in here. Please forgive me and allow me to apply the time-honoured TBP fallacy: Ahem. "But I have never dated K. I have always dated F (and sometimes J/F combinations). You have just made an absurd generalization." /bp But seriously, to your last part... I just don't see how this is challenging the TRP advice at all. Or is even divorced from it one iota. People like /u/redpillschool himself(along with the each and everyone of the rest of the modding, and EC team. I wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 05:21 PM
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You are impossible. 90% of words expended so far is roundabout semantics discussion where you have no idea what I'm talking about and are trying to win the argument through taking issue with less than acceptable wordplay and pointing out of lack of legalese. Either that, or using irrelevant examples of exceptions to refute me as if I'm actually speaking in absolutes. I understand this is standard BP procedure and I'd tolerate it and address it on the side but you don't even get the basic point. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 04:32 PM
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Its a figure of speech. Is this like the only way BP argues? Reifying metaphors and taking things literally? Because it seems like it. The fact is, you can't really express these wants in a relationship with a woman because hten you might as well be oppressing her. Its a relationship ending fight in my experience. And as for media too: here's the open challenge I will make. Any article on expectations for men or women will have a a 10x difference in the amount of hate one gets. Here's a quick ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 04:03 PM
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I think we're on the same page here. But I disagree its that thought-policing that stops me. Say, I'm dating a woman. How exactly do I voice my "wants" without being an unreasonable misogynist? I know how BP will whine about dating "wrong" girls but one literally cried about how I was ruining our relationship. I promptly nexted her, and never straightup asked again. No its not, because men can have standards. they can't necessarily talk about them in an open form like newspaper column. Which is …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 04:01 PM
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Yes. All marriages besides equal feminist happylands are emotionally scarring crappy relationships. Rubbish reply that pathologizes or makes seem unnatural a potentially very healthy equilibrium. Arguably even healthier than your own since traditional marriages divorce less. Among other things: Http://www.blackdragonblog.com/2011/05/24/stay-at-home-moms/ Working women are more than three times more likely to be divorced than their stay-at-home counterparts. Working married women have extramarita…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 03:50 PM
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In modern culture, wanting those qualities out loud is asking to be crucified. But I disagree with you. Hear me out. I absolutely think one should be allowed to demand it before making someone their wife, just as a woman may demand her guy have a nice career or house(much more prevalent in the east, where I am) before marrying him. And disqualify him based on that. But this is clearly impossible as you would be a misogynist. In fact, placing any expectations upon women draws an outpouring of hat…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 03:29 PM
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Obsess seems like a pretty extreme generalization. Everyone cares to an extent. Anyone who obsesses is just plain insecure. Anyone who thinks they need to be the MOST attractive person in the eyes of their SO is incredibly insecure. Bullshit. Women obsess and are insecure over their body and sexual competitiveness so much its almost comical. You guys seem amazingly insulated from reality, and withdraw from causes even things feminists insist and campaign on. Either by your own hamstering or the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 03:16 PM
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No. That is merely the efficient mode of action. i.e. the one that gets results fastest. There are definitely others, described in deep detail. And you can mix DT with anything. For example, most modern film stars contain text-book behaviours and qualities of DT that RP emphasizes. But selectively, so they're still overall moral. I don't know if there's a single TRP member who doesn't use RP advice selectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 03:01 PM
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Your conception of alpha is such that its mutually exclusive with beta qualities. In TRP, they're just colloquial terms for two main branches of female attraction. A man may well hit both. Its not just jocks, yknow
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 03:52 AM
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Well, I am Asian. Try not to get lost in details. I mean success in general bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 03:39 AM
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sigh. Who the fuck competes with some vague monolith like "women"? You are being an idiot. Settling down in marriage is their prerogative, not due to their inability to do anything else. The top 20% of men are capable of doing whatever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 12:51 AM
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Except men who create value. Women by default cannot touch that kind of sexual capital.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 12:41 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooke_Burke This is his wife, for what it's worth. And he can surely do better with an application of numbers game. Second, I'm not actually talking about you. Its rhetorical. I am illustrating a trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 12:37 AM
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No. But he'd be a great catch for my 50 year old friend, Judy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooke_Burke This is his wife. And I dare say he could do better with a little application of numbers game. The same could be immensely harder for your friend Judy. You're projecting again. As someone else put it, a woman may have an empire, and a magnificent mind but if she's unfuckable, she's unfuckable. No amount of success changes that. Hardly a single man is attracted to a woman's social proof. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 12:27 AM
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Wouldn't what? And who even asked you? It was rhetorical.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 12:21 AM
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how would that work?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 08:18 PM
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Men gain experience, status, social points, etc, if they work for it. David Charvet may look terrible now but imagine if he talked to you and he'd travelled the world. He was funny as hell, socially dominant, stoic and emotionally mature, wise as a sage, and employed in a Fortune 500 company going places, etc. Wouldn't that boost his attractiveness? The point being made is that men don't become any more attracted sexually to a girl for any of the above reasons. They want her sexually for her bod…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 08:17 PM
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The point is there is no slut-shaming. I'm not doing something shitty because I'm talking about what I want to talk about in my space. I'm not pushing it in your face or making you feel bad. Take talking about muslims or drawing Mohummad. In my space. I may be unbelieving or being Islamophobic, but I'm not "shaming" religious people. I'm not committing any sort of hate crime. Slut-shaming is somehow less ok than publishing cartoons of people's god or holy figures as pigfuckers on reddit. Unbelie…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:21 PM
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That's a different question. You really have a habit of jumping ship from topics(usually to a venting of your anger into personal attack) when you've been utterly destroyed on them. I'll take the above comment as a concession that it isn't rape at least .
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:09 PM
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In other replies she tells me the only reason I believe she's dumb is because she's a woman. Unironically. She legit believes that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:03 PM
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First, like I said, you can't just spew commentary on random stuff and still not be lame. Its just not as funny. It comes off as butthurt and petty, even if you're right. Which brings me to the second point: you're not. MarriedTRP is full of shlubs who missed the train and woke up to find their lives in a marriage where they're desperate for change. They're struggling to internalize and apply PUA to marriage, which is dumb in my opinion. But they are still deeply desperate and disenchanted men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 02:10 PM
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bot, ppd is too small to brigade anything. pls.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:31 PM
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itd be even worse. gay men share interests with women. straight men would not even that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:29 PM
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Both camps, the nice guys and TRP amused master, still have one goal to define their success and even worth as a man: sexy attention from the ladies. And the TBP camp too. Let's not forget that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:18 PM
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In what way? Picking of a partner involves attraction cues. What you do with that partner next is up to you. Because that person tends to work on most/all your pleasure points, and make you happy. Which is really all you need. On an individual level, we are unconcerned with the evolutionary game. You don't need to fucking reproduce with everyone you find attractive. By that logic, condoms shouldn't exist with people you find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:15 PM
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coerce Persuade (an unwilling person) to do something by using force or threats. Do you even know what RP LMR methods are?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:11 PM
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Your butthurt with the redpill flows so strongly that you associate a private discussion in an isolated subreddit(where there are no sluts to be shamed) as slut-shaming. Most open slut-shaming is carried out by women to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:10 PM
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Its not the act of fucking a lot of women. Its the part where you know precisely what to do. Experience generally correlates with alpha qualities. Women pursue alpha qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:04 PM
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A few weeks ago some kid shared his story about pinning a girl up against the wall, arms above her head, and telling her that she couldn't fight him off if she tried. Girl panicks, guy comes running to TRP asking what's her problem. This is how shitty TBP quoting is and why it should never be believed. The guy did not report any instance of a girl panicking, in fact, he reported ridiculous levels of devotion from her. What he posted to TRP about was to help him with his problem of not caring abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:00 PM
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The difference is wannabes and pretenders don't ask anyone to suppose they are these things. They have to become it. In BDSM, its basically like "baby, i know you're sensitive, but just pretend your genghis khan for tonight. Dirty talk pls. Don't ask me permission for anything. here's our safeword. just go for it" and afterwords you're back to your beta dynamic. Its a one time thing. That's the difference. RP views dominance as a natural way of life. A facet of personality. A core part of mascul…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 12:53 PM
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its a one-time gimmick there. you basically ask the other person to pretend you have it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 12:47 PM
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Sex can be enjoyable in a wide variety of ways but still be only done with the people you find attractive. Most attraction is vestigial, and most pleasure happens along the same methods: stimulation of genitals/pleasure points.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 12:46 PM
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i was just informed that that link reqquires signing up. this is the link that's going to be on PPD sidebar: https://kiwiirc.com/client/servercentral.il.us.quakenet.org/purplepilldebate/servercentral.il.us.quakenet.org/ They're the same thing but one is like a disposable phone and the other like a reddit account(only on IRC). sorry about confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 06:28 PM
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For what its worth, I agree. I like debates. I used to do MUN and debates all the time. When I first came here I called for standards of debate, and for people to put their good foot forward. I gave up because blue is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 06:00 PM
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lol @ your flair bro
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 01:53 PM
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They would act out their fantasies if you removed the parents getting shot and lead pipes which hurt. They want the thrill of a real adventure. They're just mostly afraid of it. They want to be heroes. In the same way, a woman wants to lose control. She's just afraid. Women want to be raped. By a high-value man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 01:16 PM
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Right, precisely what he said.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 01:13 PM
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OK, now this is a legitimate reply. And a good point. See, when you communicate rather than circlejerk or talk amongst yourselves assuming the other guy knows your position but is stubborn, you seem more sensible. You're right. Under the RP dynamic the hypothetical dick slapping does not occur under her whims or control. Respect in a RP dynamic does not flow down. Love flows down, and respect flows up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 12:40 PM
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its the oldest way of communicating on the internet. internet relay chat. channel.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 04:52 AM
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Thanks. We have a IRC channel for PPD where a bunch of blues and reds hang. Without the enmity. https://www.irccloud.com/#!/blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org:6667/%23purplepilldebate Come say hi.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 09:57 PM
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Now if I can. I want to illustrate a small point with my "k bro". On the surface, I am being antagonistic and pissing you off. However, if you click the context, or if you're a critical thinker you might see how my previous post was about driving poeple away. Especially people who don't get it or who hate us too much to get it. K, bro COINCIDENTALLY(i dont ahve any delusions of me being a witty poet) here illustrates the RP mentality. There's irony because we know we want you to leave. We want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 08:54 PM
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Because people fight on PPD, they hate each other. There's hardly any evil shit. There's some guys on TRP who are legit red beyond belief but they represent less than 5% IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 08:39 PM
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A fantasy stems from a desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 08:27 PM
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Excellent posts from both of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 08:26 PM
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This CMV thread so far: [PERSONAL ATTACKS. PERSONAL ATTACKS. RULE BREAKING. PERSONAL ATTACKS.] Mod: Remove personal attacks. /u/eastsidesleepwalker's new post: "Fantasy isn't reality, if you can't tell the difference between the two, for whatever reason, your view won't be changed. TL;DR: This is useless." i.e. "Agree with me or you're wrong." Then PERSONAL ATTACK PERSONAL ATTACK PERSONAL ATTACK all over again. Best TBP stuff yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 08:21 PM
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i don't see a single shred of evidence so far from any of you. You are just absolutely 100% circlejerking about some makebelieve reality where dropping one-liners makes you right. "Fantasy isn't reality, if you can't tell the difference between the two, for whatever reason, your view won't be changed." Agree with me or you're wrong, hurr durr. Then personal attack, personal attack, personal attack. AND THEN YOU SHOW UP TO CLAIM MORAL SUPERIORITY. The fuck is wrong wiht you guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 08:15 PM
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k, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 06:44 PM
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Lol what? Anyone with critical thinking skills would look at that and say "that's clearly ridiculous" and leave. Since when does "critical thinking skills" mean "not being PC"? If anything, all you're guaranteeing is that the people joining TRP are the kind of people who like thinking negatively about women. Because its non-literal. I understand a completely different meaning from it. In fact, multiple meanings. So do all other RPers AFAIK. We may get a woman-hater or two who thinks he's in good…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 06:14 PM
6

Outside of the red pill, you have all these terrible assumptions about us. There are myths about all these crazy things we believe. People come on to the purplepilldebate... and very few, if any of them are as bad as people assumed. Some people even become angry and defensive about it, and accuse us of backtracking(like this guy about AWALT). I think the language that TRP(not the new users, TheRedPill management) uses is intentionally as harsh and uninviting as possible, but I also think there's…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 04:12 PM
1

If these weren't the case, PUA could easily be incorporated as the game/seduction-part into TRP. It already is AFAIK. Personally I give no shits what is the ideological source of something. I've been picking up all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 04:04 PM
7

By your own statement they are always exceptions to those rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 06:53 AM
2

"I like what we have (sex), but I don't want anything complicate or serious right now. ~~ would never date you~~ There. FTFY. In that case, if she sticks around, then it's just for the sex on her end too and that sounds fine to me. Sometimes. Thrice, I've had women expect to change me and get something anyway. They were uniformly all 26 and above. I generally let girls try to get promoted. Some of them try even if they say they're just fine being plates. Women in general like feeling important. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 06:36 AM
2

Say you've been on three or so dates with this woman, and you're at the point where you want to drop your other "plates" to be with her Lmao. That is some damn unicorn you're talking about. Where I would decide to "be with her" three dates in, without knowing something as simple as her sexual or personal history. I usually fuck for the first time by this point. To answer your question overall though, I would not "drop" her at any stage. After figuring out she's a slut. I would keep her as long a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 06:03 AM
11

"Proving" stuff is so easy when you're BP. Just call RP something dumb and strawy, and then say a simplistic, irrelevant yet "moral" one liner to contrast it. Done. Not feeling confident enough? Make yourself a victim! Just to be sure... Condescension optional but recommended.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 04:52 AM
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Yeah. Nobody goes to a hooker to feel loved. They do it to bust a nut. They don't care about her opinions. She's a goddamn hooker. A literal whore. There is usually mutual disrespect.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 04:50 AM
4

Its like every BPer is just waiting for an opportunity to jump out with a holier-than-thou one-liner platitude. And then engage in a stupid upvote-downvote war. I'm not even talking about differences. But nope, here comes BP#213 out of the woodwork to tell me all about Jesus"Consent". Debate must be so fun for you nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 04:42 AM
0

The word dominance in TRP has a much wider range of meanings. And more positive connotations too. We associate dominance with an aspect of personality. Having presence. Leadership, respect and authority. Sadism or kink or stupid cringe-worthy dirty talk is completely divorced from that. "Aha, I am your master, u littl bitch. suck my massive cock, whore." "Yes, Daddy! Make me your slave girl" <<< This is ridiculous to me as a TRPer. Those kind of pretend games has nothing to do with dominance. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 12:41 AM
1

They're like muslims in how hard they have to struggle to justify themselves to people. Say, you're a woman who loves to be humiliated and enslaved. And raped. And dominated. And gang-raped. It causes a fair bit of mental gymnastics to make that aligned with your other, more logical beliefs. You have to constantly justify to yourself why its OK to want that. And so the community is hyper-defensive about fulfilling all the requirements of PC. I could get any one of them to explain to me their lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 12:36 AM
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They want to exist in a PC world while playing out fantasies of the most non-PC shit one could think of.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 10:30 PM
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Put simply, dominance in RP is not a fetish. Its not a kink. Its not roleplay. It doesn't go over the top. Dominance doesn't need to be chains and dirty talk. Dominance has very ugly meanings, when it really can just be a normal and healthy facet of your personality. A behaviour resembling a well-balanced leader in a suit rather than a guy in a latex suit. The trouble with BDSM is its an overdone, and thus, poor imitation of the real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 09:47 PM
3

Yeah, right as you slap your dick in her face.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 09:46 PM
2

While I think pretty much every RPer here would prefer if a RP EC participated, even if as a side-interest, I'll have to agree with /u/cuittler on this one. The thing with this sub is that its full of people who hate each other's guts. Well, most outright hating is done by BP on red, but still, enough animosity is stirred soon enough that everyone can't stand each other. Titles not being neutral is a way of minimizing the shitstorm of trolling that will ensue if the front page is populated by "W…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 08:21 PM
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For one there isn't much research on the matter. Men are obsessed with sluts. They want to fuck them, they want to deride them. Hence there is a lot of research on the subject. Women care about other things. So I doubt a female researcher will spend her thesis on the subject. There are studies on the subject. I editted in more elucidation. But while you are right that there aren't as many studies focusing on men, this is a trend that isn't limited to research on the effects on marriage of promis…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 06:25 PM
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(which is odd because men have those same risks) You guys love this claim but really are nowhere near as comprehensive in proving this with evidence as RPers are. This is an arguable statement at best. The studies RPers post are plentiful and don't have BPers able to easily poke holes in their veracity because its based on divorce rates, STDs, diagnosed depression rates, prevalence of marriage counselling, etc. AS WELL AS subjective things like happiness reporting. There are no known studies tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 05:41 PM
2

Its kinda sad how your life revolves around finding "cringe gold mines". is it hard not having people to feel superior to?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 04:37 PM
1

Christ, you guys love following me. Anyway, tbh, that was just the set up to a joke. I was gonna post a pornhub.com link or something. maybe throat-fucking. but as i said later on in this same thread, I'm bored with this thread and don't appreciate future messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 04:36 PM
0

am i?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 02:59 PM
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I'm sorry you're weak-minded and self-conscious enough to think a lack of internet points makes things embarrassing. maybe this is why t-shirts deter women from science and billboards and magazines make women anorexic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 02:25 PM
2

Not quite apparently?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 02:24 PM
0

If you put an impediment on one party(man) leaving(marriage), you achieve greater stability in the relationship, because then the relationship is only likely to end on the woman's terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 02:20 PM
3

romance is important to me; a wedding isn't. Wedding and marriage is a very important gesture of romance in the books of most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 11:18 PM
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I stand corrected. The thing about wedding guests hold true though. Let me just pretend I meant "big weddings" as in "more people". :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 11:08 PM
2

It doesn't conclude that at all. It doesn't even talk about IIRC. It is about sexual strategies, long term and short term. It says women want certain things(including LTRs) when they want babies. Or when they reach a certain age.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:47 PM
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The statement was about a dream. Not saying its literally the biggest dream they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:43 PM
2

Infidelity happens both ways. Abuse happens both ways. Neglect happens both ways. Equally. However, one party stays. The other party divorces from 70%(normal) to upto 90%(college-educated) of the time. That's 2-9 times as much as the other gender. I think one is incentivized to leave and the other isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:35 PM
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That article is from 1993 The study has an uncommonly high number of citations(more than 3,000) and the authors repeated the testing of its various hypothesis and predictions again in 1994, 1996, 2000, 2004, 2007, and across multiple cultures. All of the new ones have a couple hundred citations too. This is a very well regarded paper and has held up to a lot of scrutiny in the social sciences as well as provided the basis for a lot of new research as well. Moreover that study seems to prove that…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:22 PM
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k
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:18 PM
0

Ding ding ding. But still irrelevant to question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:17 PM
1

I think this reply makes an important distinction. A woman doesn't need to ask for benefits to recieve them. I disagree with this bit though: There's the gifting system in relationships which can be lopsided. Again, I personally try to keep an even tab. But lots of women want nice gifts. In my experience they'll try to return the favor with an also nice gift. It seems that the gift-giving stage is most lopsided during the early relationship if at all. A year or two into a relationship and most o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:08 PM
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Blue Pill doesnt want to debate that. They want to debate if you are a misogynistic shitlord. Blue Pill Feminists are idealists and facts don't matter to idealists. Ill give you another example of idealist: Neo Conservative. No chemical weapons in Iraq? Doesn't matter bomb that shit anyway because we want to restructure the middle east. Campus Rape a hoax. What its not 1 in 4 but 6 in 1000? Doesnt matter. Feminists want a new gender dynamic and bringing down men by fear and coercion will achieve…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:05 PM
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TRP understands women enough to get what it needs from them. And it has a more tangible understanding than you do in any case. Your position would roughly translate to "unknowable".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:02 PM
0

Most men have the goal to pass on their genes. No need to get married to achieve either goal. For men this is true. They only need to fuck her to have a baby. Women generally need a provider to reproduce successfully. And this shapes their instincts towards relationships. Source.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:59 PM
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Male writers admit to needing financial support as well. I kind of posted stats about how often it is that men are supported by wives. The thing is, men being supported by women is extremely uncommon. Men are often divorced or dumped when they lose their job. They don't get afforded the freedom to pursue their passions by wives. We were discussing forming a relevant and successful life without marriage and I don't think that equates to money alone. Nope. Your OP said nothing about that. Status a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:56 PM
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Stability is a joke. If anyone thinks just because you're married your relationship is secure, they are delusional. A woman may leave a man, but a man does not leave a woman. Marriage is set up so that one is incentivized to stay no matter what. In that sense, yes it is more stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:54 PM
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We sleep with other people on occasion but we're emotionally devoted to one another. No offence but I would really not take you as an example of the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:52 PM
2

She's a RPW. I would assume so.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:49 PM
1

Its a discussion topic. Stop being pedantic. I meant OP's question: What do western women get from marriage that is reasonably unobtainable outside of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:33 PM
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I find reddit completely reliable in all fields ;) You must not get out much.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:32 PM
2

most people are stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:31 PM
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I’m not looking for a provider for me to stay home and watch kids, that actually sounds like my nightmare. The question of this thread is not what you want. Or even what women want. Its what is reasonably unobtainable without marraige. Furthermore, the BP audience of this sub is mostly feminist women and female liberals, with their unique blend of opinions nad mindsets. They do not represent a majority of women in any shape or form. So while I appreciate your solipsism(you even took a figure of …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:24 PM
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I'm talking about expensive gifts. Here's some data on the difference in men's and women's gift-giving and expectations on valentines day 2015 to illustrate. As you can see in the data, flowers and jewelery giving is pretty much male-dominated. And a reddit thread? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:09 PM
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Their own success. The number of female millionaires and billionaires for example is predominantly women who inherited their fortune. Most of the successful and socially relevant people in the world are men. Their wives, by themselves are irrelevant, and probably would have stayed that way, unless they married their husbands. Even female writers are often only capable of writing because their SOs supported them. In fact, all over the world, including the west, women earn less than men do. Marria…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 09:00 PM
1

Studies show that people who have big weddings and lots of guests to their weddings, have much happier marriages and drastically lower rates of divorce. Elopers divorce much much much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 08:53 PM
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Studies show that people who have big weddings and lots of guests to their weddings, have happier marriages and lower rates of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 08:52 PM
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Your analogy is flawed because there is fulfillment of deep emotional needs associated with weddings and marriage and having a life partner. While soldiering doesn't have such strong ties to significant emotional needs, like being loved, and being important. Furthermore, in addition to what /u/TheThingsIThink said, I'll add a lot of boys idolize this and buy products, movies and video games obsessively to fuel their fascination with this type of passion for adventure and heroism and violence and…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 08:46 PM
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How many women give their husbands expensive gifts? I mean, really. 20% of women in the US earn more than their partner. This figure includes couples where the man is unemployed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 08:39 PM
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They can but as a fact, they generally don't. Mairrage provides an easy avenue into status/relevance the world over. It is the great distributor of wealth since antiquity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 08:34 PM
1

I'm not trying to convince you. I'm answering the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 08:34 PM
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In what way? Look, downvote and snark me all you want, but its a valid answer. It doesn't agree with your view of women being princesses, fine, but at least give a shred of reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 08:30 PM
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1) This is irrelevant to this thread. Belongs in the thread for men, I think. 2) It was discussed in detail. See for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 08:27 PM
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(in this case, "The entire history of famous women is women doing things men have already done...") So basically, you're taking my SLIGHT hyperbole as an excuse to serve me the 0.1% of examples that go against what I'm saying? Because you are literally arguing the point that women's achievements are comparable to men's by pointing to a tragically small minority of women that did things. And some of even those are irrelevant or just normal things men really did all the time. Like that girl who ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 06:17 PM
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No. No I didn't. Thank you for that loaded question though. Its contextless quotes like this that really show the worth of TBP's accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 06:00 PM
2

Legal threatpoint to get his assets if he ever runs out on you. That's kinda limited to marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:59 PM
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That study is behind a paywall and the abstract does not support what you're saying. There are multiple factors to consider and depression and happiness is one which is definitely positively correlated to marriage. Saying women suffer from marraige is an opinion you're gonna have to support. I remember a very good thread where we went over a topic similar to this however. A lot of things are cited. For example: women's worse ability to support themselves, while single and after divorce as well a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:55 PM
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there is no frame here. you're playing this game alone. and you look incredibly dumb doing it. no other woman here has needed to play this game to protect her ego. the only ones who do it(make themselves victims of some imaginary victimsy with misogynists) are temporary crossovers from TBP. what you're doing is a stupid adhom. because im TRP, anything i say is viewed from that lens. and dismissed because of it. my point is; you can't circlejerk here, that's against the rules. lesser posts than y…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:47 PM
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But ok, you can pretend to have the last word and "dismiss" me if it makes you feel like a "Captain" for a moment. urgh. the women who come here and pretend like they're victims to talking to actual misogynists are so obnoxious. They're as cringeworthy as the people who use mansplaining on every occasion someone calls them on their stupid. No, nobody is oppressing you. No, the impressions of us you got on /r/TBP are not accurate. You're not being treated like children by even the worst of us bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:32 PM
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How absolutely and ironically typical. I show you a world of empathy of women from men and you ignore that and ask "But did you put a dildo in your ass? NO you didn't! Stop talking then k?" Go away, blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:18 PM
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During the course of my adventures, I experienced countless iterations (ok, a handful) of the following: Near the end of a date: "Okay, we'll go back to your place for a bit, but we're totally not having sex!" In my room: "Okay, I'm gonna cuddle up next to you now, but don't get excited because we're not having sex tonight!" While making out: "We're not mmfmfmphp sloppy wet tongue tango interlude mfmfm not having sex..." My fingers in her pussy: "Oh my god, no, stop, we shouldn't be doing this, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 05:17 PM
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Yeah, not even a provider for you to stay home and raise your kids fulltime? Plus, there's like a shit-ton of studies that say women in marriage are happier, less prone to depression, varrrriousss disease, death, suicide, etc. In fact, most studies agree that the non-obvious benefits of marriage are largely those for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:33 PM
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A provider for you to stay home and raise your kids fulltime. Cash and prizes in divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:33 PM
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Men empathize with women so much they would die for her, clear all hurdles out of her path(feminism creates no change, all of it is whining for men to make things easier for women. from women's own body issues to womens inability to log onto codeacademy and learn to code), make society safe for her, understand her side of the story far more often(legal pussypass), sympathize with her weaknesses and minimize her troubles. Men think of women as wonderful by default and as a whole go out of their w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 04:27 PM
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men empathize with women so much youve got a gynocracy going. with hardly a woman who lifted a finger to create it. Probably today was the last time? More men a psychopaths then women are. THIS IS NOT RELEVANT.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 01:44 PM
0

Why are RP men so credulous when it comes to accepting stories of fellow RPers, but then are constantly questioning or outright denying the validity of even highly scientific sources when these are presented to them by an anti-RPer? Reverse that. It fits so much. Its almost like we're both human.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 01:19 PM
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Who the fuck gives a shit what TRP empathizes with? To quote a summary of another PPD user's outstanding post: TRP aims to not be bluepill. Men empathize with women so much they infantalize them. With a whole world dedicated to their issues and helping them be less mediocre and white-knighting for them. When was the last time you saw a woman think for a man who wasn't her child?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 01:16 PM
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Men empathize with women so much we have a whole world that infantalizes them. Don't let me interrupt your asinine circlejerk though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 01:13 PM
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It's lines like this that make people disgusted at TRP. Who gives a shit? You lot never bring any arguments for it when it has its own threads besides "Women nurse sick men". Until then, its just something you resent and can't argue worth a damn for.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 01:12 PM
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That is so red coming from you I'm just going to hold my tongue... don't wanna scare it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 01:09 PM
2

self-reporting yey i'm just gonna go ahead and tell the researcher that the best thing about him was his wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 09:17 PM
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According to what? How do you define small minority, or know what "most sluts" think? I've dated a few, and know a lot. Plus, it stands to reason. If you're repeatedly doing things, you must slightly like it. I don't think I've ever seen an example of a woman who did it just that one time on the red pill, which part of OP's question. These are the only cases we're questioning. Not overall. So when it happens with regularity, but only stops wiith one specific guy, something must have changed. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 09:01 PM
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This is true for a very small minority of women with a reputation for slut. Most are sluts because they enjoy it. And because some make them want to have sex, while others, not so much. Or 2. I like it, but the man in question is up tight, he's called women sluts and shown that he'll view a woman as "less than" if she loses her inhibitions and enjoys her sexuality. I was actually told by Bluepill earlier that this is a deal breaker. :S Not husband material surely.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 08:39 PM
2

Wasn't that due to women not reporting cheating to surveys? And being better at getting away with cheating? I'm pretty sure I've seen a few studies thrown around which debunk the idea either sex cheats more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 06:29 PM
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Sleeping with someone I want to is as effective at changing the world around me as sleeping with someone I don't want to. It changes nothing but who I have sex with. Wars have been stopped by women refusing to sex men. Sex is a great weapon. People adapt to what is rewarded with sex. This decides the norms of the time, what sells, what movies stars are, how people act to become liked, etc. You can question whatever you like, but you don't know why some women make the choices they do, you make as…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 03:59 PM
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I fucking love the quotes, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 03:55 PM
7

What does communism mean, blue piller?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 02:47 PM
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I would create a long reply listing the different things and how they are stupid, starting with number 1. But the real problem with these is how gullible people, with yourself as a readily available example, immediately jump on the bandwagon supporting it without thinking because it has the feminist brand and it seems like a very moral idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 02:43 PM
2

Sometimes the beta guys get the girl...actually, most often the beta guys are the ones that keep the girl in my experience. what a privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 11:00 AM
3

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 07:14 AM
2

Also, the 81% of marriages is an inflated number that is influenced by the fact that women were not able to have jobs, support themselves, or be in the workforce at all until less than 100 years ago. its a current figure. In addition to that, misogyny plays a role in how many marriages include a male partner who makes more since women routinely make less than men make on the basis of gender alone. ಠ_ಠ The pay gap? Seriously? ANd btw, as dumb as you assure me you find TRP, I find you at least ten…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 11:06 PM
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~81% of marriages follow the trend of hypergamy in the united states(the man earns more). A quarter to a half of the remaining 19% of couples is comprised of cases where the man is unemployed. Women tend to leave such men. Women consistently and cross-culturally across all age-groups report attraction to men who are successful. And in fact, better than her. The instinct of wanting these qualities is not going to decline just because she's a businesswoman now. In fact, it'll create greater expect…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 10:23 PM
1

I meant TBP. Sorry, I tend to make assumptions since I reply from the "unread" window. I don't see flair there. That message was addressed to TBPer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 10:05 PM
2

It wasn't satire. But I'm not a rapist either. I could be dishonest and pretend it was satire because it'd be a damn good example of how you lot take a single context-less sentence to accuse someone of rape but I digress. The only thing I'll say is you followed a link telling you of rape about a person you already believed is practically a rapist and so that's what you saw. If one of you had cared to ask for the story, maybe you could've gotten a clueless rapist to spill it. You could've been mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:57 PM
2

http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=trend
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:49 PM
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The thing is, I can apply poe's law at this point. And think he's actually satirizing RP rather than BP propensity to believe in the extremes of RP. He sounds like that EuphoricNeckbeard guy. Satire should always be on point about the message it wants to convey. And Sh1v, like all good artists, need the occasional constructive criticism to get them back on track. Of course, if I'm mistaken nad he's trying to poke at RP now, by all means. COntinue
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:42 PM
2

What is an RP EC? This kinda proves you're new(as well as the hamstering and threat-point thing). I'm not trying to be antagonistic anymore. I thought you were trolling since you're debating us on false premises but because you're new I completely apologize for any rudeness. It was undeserved. RP EC = RP endorsed contributor. People we verifiably know to have contributed to the ideas and be knowledgeable on TRP and/or applying RP. And the rest of what you wrote is wrong. Please read what the com…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:35 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2vdlqf/what_does_awalt_mean_to_you/cogus0b
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:25 PM
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Yeah. Like "Women can into college" and "Women can into education" or "women are smart and independent" or "women can do anything men can do". No NAWALT there. In fact, choruses of AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:25 PM
1

It is, but it means something completely different from what you think it means. We have a thread on the side bar called "terms and acronyms". Read this and then that, and get back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:23 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2vdlqf/what_does_awalt_mean_to_you/cogus0b The guy above is an EC, and he did do a search for AWALT in the searchbar. I'm thinking with his sources(and being a source himself), he's a bit more believable on this subject. Everyone here who isn't new gets the meaning of AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:23 PM
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You'll find out REALLY quick that I'm not one of those little ladies you can order around like a dog. I'm not going to lie. I chuckled. That's some nice victimcy there. Other women here don't seem to need it but whatever. The main point here, since you seem new and don't get, I'm going to point it out for your benefit: Hamster does not mean rodents. Threat-point does not refer to threats. Shit-tests do not involve shit. And plates too have surprisingly little to do with plates. RP lingo, like mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:15 PM
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You "disproved" RP theory about a trend with your exception. I satirically disproved your own theory with an exception. And then you "disproved" another RP theory with an exception to poke fun at my satire of you, completely missing(and in fact supporting) the point I was making about your original argument. I mean I'm glad you get it. But I'm not so glad you selectively get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:05 PM
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I'm just saying that not all TBPers think like that. Did... did you just non-ironically use the phrase Not all X are like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 09:01 PM
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Holy crap. I cant argue with you. Its a balance of incentives and disincentives, not an absolute law, guy. This balance produces an overwhelming predisposition toward hypergamy. But Lmao. You keep on doign your cute "Checkmate athiests!" routine You legit think that redpill said all woman at all times in all circumstances without exception and that if you can bring one woman to the table who defies the trend you're suddenly being insightful. If this is the extent of your arguments, go away. We'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:57 PM
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Are you trying to be ditzy? You completely missed my point. And in fact, supported it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:53 PM
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So are ten other guys on our sidebar. And it is an adhom because you are literally using those things about his life/character whatever to refute his arguments. And the arguments of 100,000 people who largely do not consider him important to the redpill. ROK is not a highly regarded source of content. Its linked once every month at max.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:50 PM
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You certainly did.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:47 PM
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If I mock a TRPer, it's going to be based on the thoughts they've expressed, not on their status as a 'virgin' 'loser.' Then this post is not aimed at you. Although if you want to look at the root of some of the hostility you hear from blue pillers, the reason for that is probably that TRPers evaluate women based solely on their physical attributes. You can act like TBPers should by default be "above" them because they discuss why it's harmful to box people in the way TRP does, but what's good f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 08:46 PM
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Setting up a idiot as the grand poobah of redpill in an attempt to dubunk trp by saying this guy created redpill is pretty close to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 05:52 PM
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Ill be honest with you. I find that statement to be in complete agreement with RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 05:01 PM
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oh don't pretend. all you have is time. go back to gossiping though. i wont keep you. in fact, ill even give you the ammo.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 04:49 PM
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btw, i'm receiving responses and PMs and downvotes and gossip from TBP months onward. in what world is caring too much something tbp accuses me of.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 04:47 PM
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u mad level responses. nice. you're just brushing aside any criticism to your narrative via xbox-live level trolling. im calm, and if i were angry it'd say nothing about the fact that tbp is stupidly blind to where it stands on the "has a life" and moral spectrums. edit; i checked the first response of yours was upvoted without even thinking. what does this even prove? and what does it matter anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 04:44 PM
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which has incentive to rely on it more though? which is more equipped for the task?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 04:41 PM
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you're just proving my point. your view of yourself and your cronies is absolutely detached from reality to the point you spout hypocrisy like its nothing. "I was so kind to lay off her" "Apologize to harriet for accusing her" "its hilarious you guys remember an thread three days later"(goes back to TBP's circlejerking and stalking of users based on months-past stories. some of whom are literally about the guy she says this sentence to. to the extent TBPers make throwaway accounts to come here t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 04:31 PM
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Their commentary on Indians and Asians is really amusing too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 04:23 PM
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and the danabanana story is 7 months old. whats your point
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 04:20 PM
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TBP is the reddit hotbed of virgin shaming. Completely oblivious to how much it undermines their point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 02:58 PM
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But most RPers aren't the 'ideal RP man'. Far from it actually. It's also the attitude and statements about women that RPers show that isn't needed at all to be a great, masculine man that gives TRP the mockery and ridicule across Reddit (it's not limited to TBP at all). That is literally OP's point. You substitute the image of "redpiller" into being exclusively [insert virgin-shaming pejorative here] and subsequently play right into redpill's values about SMV and sexual capital and women despis…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 02:50 PM
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Unjustified - because he let her off far too light. A good hard raping would instill some much needed respect for male superiority into this cunt's hamster brain. careful, you're dipping into TBP level satire there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 02:30 PM
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Don't kid yourself. You changed her name, but you still belittled her feelings of fear for having them. At the same very time as glorifying yourself for having responded. FYI, what you did is the base minimum of human decency considering the emotional toll that being 24/7 talked about on a sub of a dozen+ thousand rabidly militant people would have on someone. And then discovering this obsessive hate-club finally traced you all the way to your family? That has got to be legit scary considering t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 01:49 PM
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Hypergamy has diminished substantially over the last decade for this reason. To like 20% couples having a female who earns more in the US. This figure includes men who are unemployed. You're selling the picture awfully short. Furthermore, where social factors do not shame hypergamy, it runs rampant. Look to the rest of the developed(non-western ) and developing world. East or South Asia for instance. Increased earning power makes the stresses of hyper-gamy on the sexual marketplace more apparant…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 12:07 PM
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Actually, TRP theory states that women never do it so it's REALLY easy to disprove. Sigh. That's a nice strawman you have there. Now that you've built up your absolute rules for the opposing side, its really easy to knock em down. Basically you pretend probabalistic generalizations are absolutes in order to pretend like you have a point. Let me try: People have two arms. / Mammals give birth to live young. Answer: No they don't./ Platypuses In fact, let me try it with you: In my opinion, TRP str…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 11:53 AM
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This is the classic example of NAWALT. To refute a trend, you point to an exception and claim victory.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 11:53 AM
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Reported for circlejerking. see new guidelines
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 11:50 AM
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Everyone. Literally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 11:48 AM
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The way it should be worded, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 11:46 AM
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Woah woah woah there. Easy with the crazy generalizations there pal men are not some manipulative monolith /bp
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 11:46 AM
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I think its very relevant to point out. I apologize if I'm overstepping bounds. IIRC /u/drrrrrr is half-Indian, and gives out solid advice here for everyone. He instructs guys. Many of them happen to be white or black or whatever have you. /u/RedSunBlue, /u/TRPSubmitter, /u/We_are_legion(though he's on TRP less), etc are Asian too. I have never once seen these guys whine. Instead they spit game advice and insight whenever asked. And sometimes even without asking. Take these guys as just a few ex…
/r/TheRedPill22/02/15 10:57 AM
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You're starting from a completely false premise. That is that roosh "created" rp ideas or that he is the face of trp. And then you're using that to discredit redpill. Roosh is a prominent blogger among hundreds, even when he was starting out. If you said neil strauss, you'd be more correct but still wrong. This is why your opinions get so little traction with anyone. You're terrible as debaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 10:25 AM
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sigh. ok then. strawman: He created the redpill ad hom: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 12:03 AM
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Nice. 2 in 1. adhom and strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 11:42 PM
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it isn't neccessary. technology is the threshold that made it unneccessary, if only ever so strictly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 11:38 PM
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its a discussion though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 11:31 PM
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There's a serious point here to be made, I think. Control of female sexuality was near-universal to civilization, and enforced with religions(or similar social order). Something must've been up. And its not just malice or oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 11:20 PM
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I've said this before elsewhere, but I'll say it here as well since this is the appropriate thread. We_are_legion's response to your week 3 post was excellent, and thoroughly on point. The two main ingredients missing in your experiment are immersion and a male who leads. Even if, as you say, you do want to conduct the experiment in a way that has you copying advice, the point is still extremely valid that the advices are tailored to your SO, and that they're applied with appropriateness and tac…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 11:11 PM
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illiterate also means uneducated. TRP does not preach the exact opposite. You're taking an absolutist argument here. Go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 10:32 PM
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Touche. This is a p redpill answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 08:46 PM
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No. I was actually answering a different question. But if you really need me to tell you something, I'm gonna go with; "either illiterate and can't read or you read all of TRP third-hand through TBP." yeah, that sounds about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 08:36 PM
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You have a very decorative and fancy way of writing. The challenge with the feedback is that it by and large focused on Gentleman and expectations for him, rather than conduct expectations for me. For me the idea with the experiment was that I sincerely care about making Gentleman happy, so I would make a best effort to treat the set of instructions like his happiness depended on it. See, <sup>this</sup> and this: But on the subject of leadership, the whole idea of "stand back and let him direct…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 11:29 AM
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Uh huh. And your test is completely immune from being flawed in any way, either in methodology or its relevance to my views here. Contrary to your revenge fantasies, I'm actually pretty normal in everyday interaction. I talk to women a lot. I just find them to be markedly more vapid than men. You'll invent rationalizations for why such a belief can be held all day rather than consider the fact that women really aren't or ever have been highly regarded or sought after for their intellect, and thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 10:30 AM
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Then you argue the support. Or you prove that the source used is pseudoscientific. What you're doing is blatant TBP mental dissonance gymnastics. Just yelling pseudoscience anytime something disagrees with you is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 10:24 AM
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TBP is too tryhard. Their funniest stuff yet has been badly-editted copypasta from 4chan. Which is really ironic because if there's a competitively misogynistic community on the internet to TheRedPill, its 4chan. They have no worthwhile OC at all. They just derive pleasure from insulting this target in specific, because it truly grates them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 10:01 AM
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lol, no. wtf Absolutely not. TRP would completely support her, and so would RPW. In fact, RPW would rabidly support her against any and all comers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 09:54 AM
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You are so wrong. "Chad's" SMV is higher because if he were to try to do what "Nick" did, i.e. promise girls relationships and the world and happiness he would succeed monumentally. Nick can barely scrape by on the relationship market. Nick sticks to his domain mostly because he can't get any different, despite what he rationalizes. Chad does because his priorities are toward the most easy sex he can get. Chad doesn't need to operate in parties only. Chad doesn't need to be a dumb, drunk brute. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 09:52 AM
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Its really interesting seeing how your mind works, taibo. I can believe completely this is exactly how your thought-processes sound like. Poe's law.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 09:45 AM
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This kinda nitpicking using like the half the posted sources. The only legit point you make is there is an arguable case it affects men and women equally. Which is off-topic to this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 09:24 AM
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Dude, if you walk into a conversation and decide that the person is boring to start with, then you're not going to have a very interesting conversation. That's a great way to explain away the comparative vapidness of women. I would sell my soul to get my hands on your data on a gender IAT. a what? edit; i googled it and here it is Your data suggest a slight association of Male with CAREER and Female with FAMILY compared to Female with CAREER and Male with FAMILY. The premise of the test is total…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 11:57 PM
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Fair enough. Why do you suppose its only for women and not for men though? The subsequent relationships thing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:26 PM
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Yep. The way I interpret what it says: Once men lose virginity, he's more likely to have a worse marriage but its not going to increase with each subsequent partner in a statistically significant way. The woman, meanwhile, is affected by the first and each subsequent sexual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:03 PM
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Page 6 of the study, third paragraph after "Prior Romantic Relationships" says: In our sample, only 23 percent of the individuals who got married over the course of the study had had sex solely with the person they married. That minority of men and women reported higher marital quality than those who had had sex with other partners prior to marriage. We further found that the more sexual partners a woman had had before marriage, the less happy she reported her marriage to be. This association wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 08:38 PM
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Link? I'm intrigued. The one posted by cuitler? It wasn't divorce risk effect though. I remember a debate on how it was happiness reporting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:46 PM
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lol. you're cute though. I forgive you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:45 PM
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No offence, you guys are getting boring. I'm done with this thread. What's the crutch? I already answered that above.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:26 PM
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To be pseudoscience, you have to claim to be science. TRP has never claimed to be science.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:24 PM
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This is old news. There are tons of studies besides and better than this one, OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:23 PM
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You're a good sport. I like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:20 PM
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I've barely said anything about men so far. Just that women have a crutch. I'm sorry this grates you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:59 PM
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Group B?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:18 PM
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Close but no. I'm a corporate bureaucrat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 03:15 PM
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His point is basically "I have beter relationshpi. u jelly. don't jalous. Mayb I just have better wimminz than you have." The only thing unique he actually ends up pointing out is that he doesn't think they manipulate each other. Which gets a "cool story bro" at max from me. Specially given he contradicts it the very next sentence. Here's a dictionary definition of manipulate. He falls under it with very little imagination. manipulate /məˈnɪpjʊˌleɪt/ verb 1.(transitive) to handle or use, esp wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 02:49 PM
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I read your last rpw experiment thingy. I think the top reply is pretty good. What do you disagree with in specific? I agree with his number 2 thing most. Solid advice. And 3 is practically a given I guess. Its not so much as "he's not alpha" but that you take direction from him. like in your op you said that your gnetlemen likes not having to guess what your feelings are("he likes the honest weekly report"). Well, there's your start. Although last night Gentleman definitely enjoyed getting me g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 11:59 AM
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However, even some frustrated, struggling guys weren't having an out and out awful time with women in general. Many just had no clue how to close the deal. To you, as a woman, this is a not an awful time. You focus on relationships. To me, though, this is an awful time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 11:24 AM
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Oedipus complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:37 AM
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yeh. I would imagine BP should love this explanation. Wawuz the explanation for the popularity of rape/dom fantasies again, BP?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:34 AM
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Large breasts. There are basically no milfs without those. Plus, by definition, milfs are attractive women. The vast majority are sexually experienced, seductive and aggressive. They tend to make the first move and take the lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:32 AM
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having a vagina is a great handicap. As far as that goes, I hope you change your mind someday, you might be missing out on some eye-opening conversations. nah. I engage in them all the time, see. I'm just not terribly amused. Any twat can talk or dip into "intellectual" topics. Its another thing entirely to be interesting or novel while doing it. Women suck at being funny or original or engaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:29 AM
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See, you're not getting my point. I can believe its common for you and still believe you're worthless as a friend. Because the fact is, there are a myriad of factors that work to compensate your worthlessness and so we can never really know. For example, I talk to my secretary a lot because she's cute, has tits, and giggles at every stupid joke I make. Same with your friends. And what's more, you're a girl. Interacting with you is social proof. You of all people should know, because like most BP…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 01:28 AM
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This drivel doesn't deserve a rebuttal, nor does any of the drivel that slobbers out of TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 12:41 AM
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Fair point. Just making a joke. I think a lot of us lie where he is on the spectrum, but we just don't judge the TRP space too harshly because we've grown too fond of it. Or come to believe in the excuses for it because its value outweighs its negatives and we're biased to defend what helped us, especially since its the underdog and doesn't exactly need help being "misunderstood".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 12:34 AM
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You sound like you'd be an interesting and sensible guy to talk to. I... I too, contempt and loathe the redpill. Can I get some love?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 12:02 AM
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You know that RP tactic where you break up with an unwilling woman via a catastrophic loss of frame? I want to do it by confessing I want her to be my second mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 11:57 PM
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since I remember you crying about it in the comments. Oh yeah, right. That. Good times. I remember you promising to suck my dick right after too. I'd link you but who cares about links nowadays anyway. for the record, I was banned on tbp a year+ ago, as opposed to the above which is ~3 weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 11:45 PM
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I am not adhomineming. Your character was brought up by you, to illustrate your argument. Your self-estimation is fair ground to question and very relevant to addressing your point. And how do you feel about having a conversation with women? Say you're an engineer, do you talk to your male colleague or your female colleague first about a new project? If I was an engineer, I don't think I'd have a female colleague to talk to. Instead, I'm in marketing/consultancy, which is actually more inclusive…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 11:38 PM
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Oh fuck. The original reply makes more sense now: So you want to be treated like a child...?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 11:08 PM
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Oh, god sometimes these kinds of threads make me cringe at myself in the past. Especially hate it when you lot make romantic notions ("Love through thick and thin" or "soul-mate" etc) into "second mother". rp speak but jesus christ
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 11:03 PM
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A lot of RP peeps have posted about how this isn't absolutely literal. "Unconditional love" is a romantic trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 10:59 PM
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I wanted to be pursued, not the pursuer. I wanted there to be no such thing as gatekeeper of sex(value being de-facto exchanged in the pursuit of intimacy). I wanted to be needed. I wanted to (to quote someone else)"be the prize instead of what I could do for her to be the prize. "
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 10:57 PM
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I'm going to offer you an as yet even more controversial notion. A lot of women think that when people heed their sexual capital, it means they're interesting or they have just as much worthwhile, engaging things to say. So far, from what you've written, you don't seem to be the odd exception. Perhaps you're riding the low bar people set for you. For example, I almost guarantee even you'd agree a man with your personality would be considered unattractively dull.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 10:51 PM
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I remember when I complained of the same thing a few weeks ago, that BP was majority and RP barely got any say. A reply from then is a good look of the opposite being true, /u/PostNationalism. Every answer to literally every single thread was near completely TBP dominated. Source(a comment I made at the time): sigh. ok, you know what? lets do this. i hate snark and lets see if i bother answering, it'll change anything. lets see if you have one iota of intellectual honesty in you. front page ppd …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 09:47 PM
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A month or so ago the entire sub was bluepill dominated, so much so I asked for a survey. By the time it came around, it was near even. And fast forward 2 weeks, its redpill dominated. It will swing back soon enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 09:42 PM
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Couldn't have moved on without TRP though. Maybe being viewed as damaged goods and becoming addicted to victimcy has sort of a placebo effect that perpetuates trauma. Thinking logically about it, or how silly it all is really did make it better, and make me trust women again.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 06:20 AM
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cool. 3 TRP mods and multiple ECs in the same thread. Awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 06:07 AM
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even non-violent encounters. people will harass men just as much if not more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 04:50 AM
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This sentence was probably said in reverse by some sad deluded MRA some time somewhere. Right before he was labelled misogynist, harassed and ridiculed. We pity and salute the fool.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 10:40 PM
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Being a woman is a badge of honor when you're on the Internet if anything. Tits or gtfo explains this perfectly. Women would not be so desperate to reclaim status of womanhood on the internet if it were not a decided advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 10:34 PM
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I was coerced into sex once. I don't know whether to call it rape but it was blackmail and coercion definitely. The experience scarred me for a long time. When I first talked about it on TRP though, an EC there straight up laughed at the whole story. And then proceeded to mock me because he thought I was fishing for sympathy. This is the TRP 'safe space'. EDIT Strangely enough, the conversation with that asshole did far more to heal me and let me forgive and move on than did the support.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 10:20 PM
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To be fair, the last time BPers were holding the torch wasn't far back. Mostly though, I think it tends to be determined by what topics each cares about. If there's insult to women in the thread title, you can barely say "I agree with you!" before you get clobbered into spam. Because BPers will gravitate to defend that narrative. Meanwhile, a narrative like "BPers, have you any advice besides platitudes? If you do, post it" tends to attract redpillers like smug flies on honey. And when either si…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 08:24 PM
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Did you drive crowds of people onto TRP via links? I've heard mods sometimes investigate idiocy by double-checking TBP. They then ban rabble-rousers to discourage them from participating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 08:17 PM
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While I appreciate the calm and mostly serious reply, there's a difference in mindsets between you and I. I can see here why we disagree, but I can't see any way of how we could resolve it. Except agree to disagree. Come to think of it, these mindsets seem to exemplify women and men's difference of thinking respectively. Let me use examples to illustrate: You see the obvious benefit in everything being as safe as possible. While I interpret this as how everything needs to be made as baby proof a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 08:06 PM
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there are so many assumptions we all make every day which are not based on scientific studies. yet make one about a performance of art like seduction. and you have riots.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:50 PM
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Something something "Oppression = power + privilege, shitlord." I'm afraid in this instance its a false equivalency. I'm a minority, see. Not a madeup one like "women", I'm literally worse than /r/spacedicks, /r/niggers and /r/jailbait. Combined. As I am so universally hated, I'm afraid when I don't accept most perks of being a smaller minority than women, I do get to call them pussies for needing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:40 PM
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men don't get verbally cat called or have anywhere near the rape risk that women do, so being female requires more defensiveness Yeah, I guess you're right. They have the death risk. and having your face smashed in risk. or being robbed risk. and then being treated as disposable risk. and having any complaint being viewed as whining risk et cetera
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:28 PM
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Where did I go "wahhh feminists"? Also, maybe you should seriously start thinking about why you're getting those PMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:26 PM
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The thing is, its not limited in any way to idealogy subs. Women literally seem to need every space they will exist in to perfectly pander to their sensibilities and be completely safe. Completely innocuous groups impose tremendous rules for what is or isn't allowed, because of how it makes women feel. And please don't think I'm talking about just reddit. I'm talking about everything. Academia, business, video games, tv shows and reddit forums where they whine about periods. All of them need to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 07:00 PM
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Its literally in the sidebar: Under "Here to troll?" The message is clearly that "We'll probably ban you if you do these 10 things. Read it." Yet nobody does. I always always make a point of asking BPers who say they're banned for disagreeing to link me to the post(s) in question. A good 80% of the time, its been snark. 10% of the time, sophistry and dumbassery that nobody cared to waste time arguing with. 10% of the time, decently ambiguous and legit stuff. I forgive the mods for that consideri…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 06:54 PM
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For being a redpiller, you get ridicule, deaththreats, callings out in random reddit subreddits(where you may see thousands of downvotes for yourself, and thousands of upvotes and gildings for people who spot you and mock you) and loud wishes to santa for bad things to happen to you. Moreover, there are groups specifically set up to openly mock and stalk redpill and brigade its sub. Being a woman, or a feminist does not make you a social pariah. In fact, spouting inane moral platitudes (that fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 06:44 PM
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I do do it. I know I do it. And post TRP, I do it consciously. Here's me admitting to doing it in this very thread. I outline a blatant and egregiously brutal example of dread-game abuse-murder. Here's /u/king_koga telling a story in which a woman dreads him. The scenario is pretty normal. but affecting(imagine your own guy having a female girl just leap into his arms for a passionate hug, and imagine if that owuldn't bother you).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 01:12 PM
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Who the fuck thinks doxxing is always acheived through google? AFAIK, even 4chan kiddies use means other than google.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 12:53 PM
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Just, why? It was a reasonable post up to that point, why sling shit at the end? It's stuff like this why BPers are hilarious. Eh, they're bitter. They have no life on their own so they spend all their time fuming and obsessing over inconsequential internet groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 12:39 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/2u2a8a/the_most_disgusting_comment_i_have_ever_seen_on/co4xj6w?context=3 I didn't think the TBP mods actually cared, because they're usually extremely quick to stonewall me. What I did instead was mention it to a BPer, /u/ILU2, over PM. I thought if the circlejerk got worse or if someone actually became a credible threat(they were just talking about having it done IIRC) I'd send a PMs to the admins. But at the time I couldn't do anything(neither comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 12:33 PM
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It must be emotionally distressing for you to search for examples. But you do realize you're arguing the point using literally a 90-to-10, 95-to-5 99-to-1 ratio. What you've proved is that its technically possible. What you haven't proved is that its common in any way. In fact, the way these same examples repeat over and over is just an example of an exception that proves the rule. I could go on, but I'd also ask you to consider Virginia Woolf's hypothetical Judith Shakespeare, which beautifully…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 12:16 PM
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Or maybe, and this might shatter your world, we actually think TRP is garbage. Is thinking that people should be decent to one another no matter what is in between their legs white-knighting? Yeah, because if you're provably "uninitiated". i.e. if you don't know what the fuck we're talking about, and can only speak on it to say stupid eye-roll inducing arguments like "treat people decently", then you're just being a white-knight.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 09:24 AM
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Fucking bullshit. TBP has made literally thousands of accusations in the last few months alone, 99% of which are bullshit and unfair, 95% objectively and provably so. Show me one apology(that one obvious purplepill girl doesn't count). /u/HarrietPotter herself is involved in the thick of it. It speaks of the integrity of non-BPers, and shameful lack of it for TBPers, that we can apologize based on one incident of slight misinformation meanwhile she runs a sub like TBP and still demands pats on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 06:51 AM
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You hounded her for months and years and she still didn't trust you not to abuse the information divulged on our sub? The nerve. What I'm actually thinking happened behind your self-flattering account: I bet when she messaged you your mods circlejerked in her face at first. As you're like to do when people PM you. After that you begrudgingly removed a few comments when all the fun on TBP about it was said and done.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 04:53 AM
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I'm thinking you didn't read the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 04:49 AM
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Eh, a more accurate statement would be "TBP did not dox people, to the best of my knowledge". Your post reads less like you're issuing an apology, and more like you lost a bet. They do and excellent job dealing with these types of situations. They have almost literally like every second jane and harry there modding. what is it? 60 mods? I wouldn't give them a medal just yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 03:16 AM
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I think everyone makes the 2nd bias that he mentions. Case in point: The entire history of famous women is women doing things men have already done, but generally worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 03:02 AM
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all women do it. to search for a woman who does not is like searching for a unicorn. as it is, you have no idea what i'm talking about. you've never read what it is RP is going on about. hell, so much so, I'm willing to be that behind your endless platitudes, you're probably just as like to do it as the rest of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 02:42 AM
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Not a redpill woman, OP. But I remember a thread very similar to your own which has been done before. Much more replies and participation from RP men and women last time. Here's the link: http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2gsl2k/what_do_red_pill_women_think_of_these_trp/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 03:34 PM
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Its not sarcasm there, hyperrreal. Labeling people redpillers is quite serious. Saying that it isn't serious is making excuses. Countless times, in the midst of heartbreaking storytime by OP, this same labelling is done. From askreddit to a number of other million strong subreddits(to smaller ones like relationships, offmychest, etc). The examples of this are numerous enough and convincing enough that we shouldn't assume this is a circlejerk. Even in TBP, this same regularly happens. FOr example…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 03:24 PM
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(EDIT: please don't think I am making a mountain out of a molehill, I know the shit-test we talked about is only an example. but since you're new, im just going to talk as we usually do on TRP, to get the hang of this stuff. i.e. we explore and explain concepts using the examples in day to day. Also do note that everything RP says is in terms of generalities) if you say "yes she is" or "no she is not", be prepared for an escalation of the shit-test into an even bigger shit-test. quick primer: re…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 02:25 PM
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I am 100% serious, hyperrreal. If you have a refutation, this belongs in comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 11:01 PM
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Having gave this a little thought i think i would respond with something along the lines "Does it matter who is prettier? You are the one i am going home with" your mental image of shit-tests is a bit weak. you're imagining women drop it when you say something funny. no. i'll bet you anything she'll still insist on an answer, though this is a good start. what'll you do then? think shit-tests responses as like a bridge to re-establish rapport. instead of problematic situations where you either ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 10:38 PM
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Oh, sure, let me just make the doxxing attempts on me that much smoother. Lets add a name and address while we're at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 10:33 PM
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ah. how goes your rpw exp btw did you get any useful feedback? anything interesting? from husbando or rpw or rp alike.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 10:01 PM
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lol. and whats that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 09:56 PM
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mefi?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 08:41 PM
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And what could that observation possibly be based on? This: "guy asked why you have to play mind-games to get what you want rather than having a conversation?" I could ask for the keys to a brand new ferrari, but a conversation isn't always going to give me one. Calling it mind-games is a copout, so is the reduction of a large topic like dread game to the shitty MMSL tactics advocated in the OP. Dread is more subtle than that in the vast majority of cases, and in our opinions, more than called f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 07:34 PM
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Really good comment. Thanks for typing this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 07:16 PM
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wait wait wait what whisper did what? link
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 07:10 PM
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Good luck. And "get creative".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 05:06 PM
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I feel like you wanted to edit this post before I read it but ok. You you can get away with it but you have it down where it is not harmful and malicious (correct me if i am wrong) and i think while it drives the girl crazy she knows its not with and intent to put her down or degrade her (again correct me if i am wrong) Correct. also i find no off that as an example of dread game that i have came across. I'm barely getting your meaning but I'm guessing you don't think its dread. To that I say: w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 04:30 PM
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What was the account name you just replied to, I wonder. I think he was one of the better RP posters here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 04:05 PM
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but no fucking way i going to swallow it lock stick and barrel i will take what i need and change as needed. redpillschool and other ECs and mods have pretty much gone hoarse telling people to shut up and do this for literally years. Congrats. You get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 04:01 PM
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Standard shit-test from her "Who's prettier, me or X?" (X being her friend from that time I have good terms with) Standard response to this is agree and amplify, so I get to amplifying. "Like overall right?" "Yes" PErrrfect. I eye her up and down. Slowly. From neck, to breasts, stomach, (HELLO? M?) hips, legs, back to hips and breasts again. And face. Lips and finally eyes. "You're about even." Her mouth is literally agape. Like she can't decide whether to laugh or hit me. But I have a plausibly…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 11:02 AM
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Women can deny it, but at some level, they are affected by stuff like that. AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 07:54 AM
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Welcome to the red pill. I swear I'm like a little kid stealing ideas here and there. I don't even care if an FR is totally made up. I'm like "I want to try that. That sounds awesome". Eventually, even if you're not perfect, you still practice experimenting with awesome ideas all the time and that's never bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 07:04 AM
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Yeah. Just don't be overt. I'm with a girl who's 27 atm. She has plenty of self-esteem/self-respect and she has a job better than mine too(which isn't bad either).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 10:43 PM
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Its less an argument and more an amusing observation. Chill out. A lot of BP comments talking among themselves or tangentially insulting RP in some way is upvoted all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 10:40 PM
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Oh, man. Door B.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 05:39 PM
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everything on trp i know.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 01:04 PM
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who
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 01:02 PM
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but but sex is an mutually enjoyable activity. why should sex be exchanged for goods and/or services?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 09:29 AM
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I really don't know why everyone thinks I'm trolling. I'm not. if you insist. basically, you're proving yourself a hypocrite and an example of a woman who is incapable of empathizing. You are the type of women men need to convince that she's doing something, even when she isn't. Because maintaining your desire to feel useful takes a priority over their own emotional needs. And if somebody expressed emotional needs in front of you, it would be deeply counterproductive and useless. I can't tell yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 08:47 AM
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I think he's talking about more than a shitty day at work. But whatever floats your boat about how far empathy should go.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 08:43 AM
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I've already done one: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2am366/i_am_an_attentionwhore_ama/ Its a parody of an AMA craze where all the women on PPD started attention-whoring(eventually the mods banned all AMAs) but I answered some questions seriously anyway. In any case, just saying: I don't think I(and especially not /u/illimitableman) would be willing to provide personal details or verification or anything. I've already been the subject of enough doxxing attempts and lots of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 08:21 AM
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Sappy beta things probably. But anyway, I'm convinced you're trolling, but then this is a very unskilled low form of troll too, because its not terribly clever or funny, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say it isn't. In either case, you do represent a very good example of the OP's premise: "Women are incapable of empathizing with men or male needs/desires"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 08:11 PM
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your arguements were fairly weak. Of course they are. Hell, the posts themselves were grabs of the lowest fruit, including a reputed(and hilarious) troll. The fact that he's getting upvoted is a testament to the territorial and contest-oriented nature of the BP side.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 01:00 PM
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Ah yes. You are one of those that likes to get the last word in, no matter how meaningless. Go ahead. I'm generous, I'll let you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 01:00 PM
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And here we have a fine, fine healthy specimen of BP, demonstrating all the signature trappings of his ilk. From using the word hamstering as an instrument of his own hamstering, to inventing irrelevant off-topic gossip to defend a gone argument(which ironically was about how bad he is at interpreting quotes). Basically in general being about as stubborn and intellectually dishonest a sophist as anything we can expect from a person from /r/thebluepill. Lets take a look at each of his completely …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 12:29 PM
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[paraphrasing] is not ambiguous. Understatement of the century. Haha yes, this is my favourite type of red pill hamstering - I was just joking! Dude, what the fuck, bro? I can't take you seriously now. Read sh1v's posting history. READ IT. This is not any unique pattern for sh1v. I know this link because I commented on it, but there are definitely more if you care to look. Read his posts in the same thread even. And he's been called out on it plenty of times, completely seriously. However, liter…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 08:27 AM
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And nothing is skewed by TBP. TBP's interpretations are always infallible and never fail to account for any confounding factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 07:18 AM
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This post epitomizes BP rationalizations perfectly. The one where you pretend every case of inconvenient votes was because TBP messed up the results. The one where you pretend, despite all evidence, that the person quoting 100% literally meant what he was saying(I know Poe's Law, but this is ridiculous). The one where you think a vague story with a tangential detail unimportantly mentioned by a author proves rape. Especially when this comment is made by a TRPer (and sometimes to TRP directly), p…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 06:48 AM
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Is your response to his pain to take him back into your routine, acting like nothing's happened? i.e. you think you just being there is such a great relief and upliftment to him. And this represents the full extent of your support?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 05:07 AM
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Well there's always the chance that one of your victims will speak up. About what?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 04:57 AM
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Well ... I'm his girlfriend! So that's how I'm there for him. So you just stand there or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 04:55 AM
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OK, how are you there for him? What exactly do you do? And what about other males. Any of them ever cry in front of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 07:05 PM
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OK, how do you give emotional support. And have you ever cried? edit; wiht him i mean
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 04:53 PM
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We want to support them like they support us. Crying is such a turn off. That doesn't mean we want to watch them act like a baby. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 04:50 PM
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uh huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 04:21 PM
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to most of this; k I am specifically an example of a BP who trolls science threads (according to you)? Well then, keep me RES tagged as troll, keep a good record of my posts to bring up on demand, develop a nice profile about me and keep LYAO. i had like one post, which happens to be the longest i've ever made. in the "context" of which you were specifically called out, and within which is a link to the third thread. don't flatter yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 04:12 PM
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That's kinda weird. I actually went back and saw you were right... I was kinda confused, so I refreshed, and it changed again. TIL reddit doesn't give correct votes. latest refresh https://imgur.com/JlBuPC0 cool to kno
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 03:58 PM
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LMAO. You know, normally... I wouldn't do this. But [REDACTED], yet again, I almost have to. Not to be blunt, misstressnatalie, but your refuations specifically carry little weight. You specifically have been called out as an example of BP who trolls science threads. Because not only are you wrong, but you're extremely self-flattering and stubborn about how right you are. It becomes a black hole of argument where you argue based on nonsense premises, don't give any sources and just go to town. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 03:45 PM
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Sigh. Since you guys seriously do not understand why when text is not reasonable evidence to go on, I will attempt to explain: If his text is our only source for what this was or wasn't, then consider the following confounding factors Text communicates less than an iota of what happened. I barely got a mental image of the event, whereas you guys imagine up a crime scenario. Your own biases are showing. He is talking in a space that does not emphasize legalese about anything. There is no standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:38 AM
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First you go Source? And then you go We do this in front of each other and it's actually pretty fun to flirt/string along other people when both of us know who is going back to whom that night. Bonus fun for making the other people think that my partner and I are not together and then trying to be a bigger flirt than the third party (this could get you some weird looks from those people, part of the bonus).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:10 AM
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This. SO much. You absolutely get it. Nobody's self-reporting should be believed. Never listen solely to what people say, but see what they do. Once you actually start the stuff, it becomes depressingly obvious the only limitation to you in all your AFC days was your own fear/laziness(talking to women isn't much harder than normal socialization) and that 99% stories on TRP are plausible. But it also becomes obvious how anyone(including you yourself) tend to exaggerate when reporting these experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 09:21 AM
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20-30%. When I first started on forums like this I used to assign numbers like 90%, but when you actually start, there's no way to get around it: talking to girls isn't hard. And numbers game inevitably gives you unique experiences, that anyone'd reasonably want to talk about. However I do think 90%+ is exaggerated, if not false.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 09:17 AM
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pseudoscience I honestly don't think you know what that word means. This truly has become a buzzword now when you have nothing else to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 07:12 AM
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because its a vague story where all he told you is he engaged in questionable dominance play. and the girl didn't think anything of it. you can't call rape over text you guise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 06:22 AM
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You're a rapist piece of shit and I hope you are caught and sent to jail real soon. Keep hoping.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 06:22 AM
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What context could POSSIBLY justify that phrase? What fucking context could do that? 48 laws of power, Law # 6. Example method number 5 if we're feeling specific. Also, gaylubeoil.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 09:21 PM
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uhhh... yes. That. Actually, you know what? Let's pretend I was being ironic. Anyway, my point is I agree with you. We should all just trust the excellent TBP track record of quoting legitimate things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 09:11 PM
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but I'm sure there are some reasons why we either shouldn't take it seriously or why it doesn't at all mean anything. I know what you mean. And criminals too! Like, ALL criminals have some fucking reason of why they were innocent or whatever. I mean, just stfu and go to jail already.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:52 PM
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See, thank you. This post is exactly why we need you guys to be strictly held to the rule of providing the quote and context. If we open ourselves to posters like this having free rein on arguing their strawmen, then we're just wasting our time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:46 PM
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What matters is that I get you to post context. This should be a habit. When you post context, then people decide in an informed way and conversation progresses having gained something. Anything less is just shit-flinging. Also, because in my experience, when BPers post context, 3/4 times the quote porn isn't so good anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:29 PM
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I actually have the most credibility. Since I am a TBP-convicted rapist, I stand testament to how flawed your internet mob convictions really are. I have already demonstrated how much you are a bunch of outrage porn enthusiasts who have no interest nor intention in considering any opinion other than that which suits your pre-supposed narrative. And in sticking to the disproved accusation you're proving my point. The OP here is falling into the same trap. She starts from the premise that TRP advi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:22 PM
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whoops, i thought I deleted those like seconds in. feel free to make the thread neat again. anyway, the call for context is always worth it. the guy just speaking on wrong stalking stats and compares stalking to paternity fraud as an argument. he also has 3 votes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:10 PM
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Well, I once saw someone say all men were literal pigs. With snouts and wings and everything. They then preceeded to get bestof'd and gilded 600 times. The comments erupted in applause, /r/AskWomen increased by several million subscribers and reddit CEO yishon wong himself showed up to ban /r/theredpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 08:00 PM
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Most(like 99%) LMR advice is just freeze-out or tacit acceptance. either that or you de-escalate as smooth as possible and try again later. There are a lot of templates you can easily find for that if you read those kinds of places(most of it just involves diversionary conversation to create rapport again) but none of it involves "power through" as advice, especially to new people. IMO though, in some cases, body language may as well equate consent, or at least leaves room to inquire. Laughing, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 07:50 PM
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No :/ I am not talking about a minute subset. Stop applying that rationalization to everything. Its condescending. Plenty of women have complaints about being harassed or catcalled(as an example). Saying "What were you doing to attract it?/You were asking for it/Why do you hang around such creeps, like at your job" would be absolutely unacceptable. Tantamount to victim-blaming. google the term victim blaming Saying to an abused woman "Why didn't you leave?" gets you banned in like 20 minutes fla…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 03:16 PM
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I would first have to find one who has read past the title of an article SO MUCH THIS. Seriously, its not even funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 03:08 PM
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Not to nitpick but: According to the national institute of health, dry winter air, as measured by absolute humidity, is linked to the outbreak of flu as viruses become hardier during this time and find these conditions more ideal for surviving and transmitting. http://www.nih.gov/researchmatters/march2010/03082010flu.htm Additional NIH research also suggests that the flu virus’s coating becomes tougher at temperatures around the freezing point, making it easier to transmit. http://www.nih.gov/re…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 02:41 PM
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Lets try an exercise. Take this: However that's a long way from then believing all women were lying pieces of shit incapable of love or rational thought. And scale back the scary words. Just adjust until it seems reasonable, but still extreme enough to be a useful warning. Hint: different individuals will readjust this sentence to different points. However, as a rule, and irrespective of how well it also applies to men, women can be generalized to be hamsters and irrational by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 01:48 PM
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Dale carnegie was pretty basic though. what he recommended was timeless, true, but also pretty well contained within the 48 laws. Plus, 48 laws are for far more than just social skills. It is really really far-reaching IMO. From how to run a subreddit from obscurity to boogeyman status to how to... well anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 01:43 PM
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You are homing in on my examples as if I seriously believe those, when I am merely illustrating that the logic behind "If you meet assholes all day, YER DA ASSHOLE! lOl" would rustle a lot of women's jimmies if we applied them in other circumstances. I'm merely saying, if you wanna circlejerk, stay in twox or askwomen where the ugly stuff behind your shit won't be called out. Over here, I'm red pill and the gloves are off. If this logic is taken seriously, than my contention women's utter inferi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 01:37 PM
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It would be, but then we mustn't victim blame. I mean, that girl complaining of being oogled or catcalled or harassed or abused is absolutely 100% blame-free in all circumstances. Even of stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 01:28 PM
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"If you truly think you keep getting raped or sexually assaulted, take a good look at who is present in each of these interactions...and consistently leads to the same outcome :) coincidence? I think not." "If women truly keep failing at being important in society or doing productive things comparative to men, maybe we should wonder if women really are inferior :) coincidence? I think not." "If the patriarchy truly keeps oppressing you, maybe you should wonder what it is you're doing to get oppr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 08:42 AM
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Everyone knows men want to be whores, and are capable of sluttery. This is not news to anyone. AWALT(All Women Are Like That, a sort of meme) is thus a novel concept. Furthermore, the line from Ecoast_man serves to discourage men from putting women on pedastals, or assume they are wonderful. And last, it serves to make a man ambitious, and think about the possibilities, rather than hold back under mistaken delusions that some women are unattainable or too good to get or whatever. . You guys are …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 08:14 AM
1

how come
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 08:05 AM
1

I would contend that women are below men only because they're not as likely to report or admit it to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 07:26 AM
1

This. Always look for the balance of incentives and disincentives. Blaming nature solely is the lazy way out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 07:22 AM
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Everyone knows all men are capable of sluttery. AWALT is saying something new here. Also, internalizing the line by ECM though has a difference in function. Its depedastalizing in effect. And it speaks of possibilities. False equivalencies all day tho
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 05:12 AM
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"All women are subject to my judgement" Everything is subject to my judgment. But its only women who are kind enough to obsess over my opinions though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 05:09 AM
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Let me explain the mechanism of the above comment, and ones like it. A circlejerker comes out of the circlejerk subreddit which served as his sole source of opinions of what the red pill believes. The circlejerker debates redpill based on these strawmen. RPers pretty much tell the circlejerker "this is what we mean". Circlejerker is very butthurt and proceeds to whine about how people don't believe what they want them to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 04:59 AM
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Nah, they still wouldn't.
/r/PussyPassDenied10/02/15 02:41 AM
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You're right. I'm being generous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 02:21 AM
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I love it when you guys attack jokes. The irony is unbearable. Literally 3/4th or more of /r/thefuckingbluepill is attacking jokes and hyperbole.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 09:08 PM
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I don't know how much weight to give it, but redpillschool's claimed to dating feminists. I think its hard not to as a person in the west. They're everywhere. And life at least 1 in 10 or 1 in 20 are serious about it. I've personally dated feminist-leaning people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 08:57 AM
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Amused Mastery Shit-tests Reward/punishment The virtues of beta game. Description of the sexual marketplace along with how it works (Edit; oh and the pitfalls too... like, AFBB, the wall) Intimacy and keeping it alive outside of sex A bunch of really useful rules of thumbs ("Do not listen to what they say, but see what they do", "Sentiment, not sentimentality") Feel free to add guys. EDIT: Moar: recognizing and responding to -Rationalization -Solipsism -Hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 08:37 AM
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We have a hundred thousand people who understand. And hundred thousands more outside of reddit. Roughly half a million people who got the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 08:31 AM
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Some are empathetic, if unhelpful(women tend to approach problems as a means to the relationship, they are uninterested in solutions, and more interested in expressing adequate empathy to be considered a good person) while most just make it a good rule to follow to never become vulnerable in front of them. To be fair, this is something I noticed a lot more with TRP, when I actually was focused on building up rapport, rather than just "being myself and seeing what happens". Back then, I was happy…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 07:35 AM
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An observer would be forgiven for thinking that the absolutism originates with TRP. Why the fuck would I discuss RP with laymen observers? That's like debating a book with people who read it third-hand on a circlejerk. I would tell them to GTFO rather than debate. TRP relies on hyperbole and harsh language. The point is clear for anyone without an agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 07:18 AM
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In a sense, one could say I'm raping you too. I mean, what does the word mean anymore? Btw I haven't deleted it. even most RPers would raise an eyebrow at? And not really for the reasons you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 07:15 AM
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Don't count on your race working for you in Asia. And I would say do not marry at 34, age difference works against you, as you too have little to go but down. Best to marry before the peak, to actually be at your best in marriage.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/15 07:13 AM
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Sorry about OT, but sure: Nothing to elaborate, really... its a common complaint among guys. Women encourage you to open up about yourself. You do. They lose interest. By the second. Mostly it plays out that I enter a long conversation, and she talks about herself, and I give opinions, and she likes that. Its a playful back and forth. And women freaking love talking about themselves. Sometimes you enter into much deeper conversation. And they see your shell as fascinating. And they push and prod…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 05:22 PM
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Indian here, I work for an unnamed car company in Japan, doing imports. I didn't manage to have family help leaving or scholarship, but I made it. Keep at it, or stay, actually. The grass isn't always greener. Grew up in very very conservative Hindu family. Would only marry back there if given the chance.
/r/TheRedPill08/02/15 05:14 PM
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In my experience, its an insult to everyone. Including women. Its a persona they want to disown as far as they can help it. The rest they re-define. Stay mad tho, polyhole
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 04:48 PM
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I also don't think you can deny the sense of entitlement that exists in a lot of TRP members when it comes to women. Any specific examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 03:52 PM
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Oh, but hysteria is a word for women. Not the best comment to reflect(not to mention you've gotta cut out the bits about 17a29b)... good try, i mean, but no
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 01:10 PM
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This is just a stupider rehashing of what 17a29b already said. Only with added bitterness, hysteria and lots of strawmen. Of this what matters and is valid is answered above.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 12:25 PM
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Feminism is pretty mainstream tho. And it constantly polices what is mainstream. If something is common belief on gender, you'd better it has feminist approval. Not to mention things like: Masculinity is toxic. Men should embrace their feelings. Men should abandon gender roles(save the ones that serve women tho). Let me tell you... its so fucking depressing telling a woman an inkling of your feelings. You can literally feel her interest waning, and impatience rising by the second. Awkwardness bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 11:37 AM
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I'm pretty sure this is exactly what fats and women of all ages and life-paths are told. And oh my god, you take feminism classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 11:35 AM
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Darn those women for not giving him the sex he so obviously deserves. what the even fuck. as of this point, what you "see of trp" should be of no consequence to anyone. I'm guessing, being a woman, you interpreted everything you read there through your own solipsistic lens and come out with that idiotic interpretation. Try repeating those posts, as subtly as you could, on TRP and tell me how many minutes it takes you to be banned. I actually could explain why that interpretation might be the one…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 10:59 AM
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I've read trp and asktrp alot, and one thing I've noticed, TRP is actually far quicker than even /r/relationships in giving the other person in the story the benefit of the doubt, simply because they're not the person telling it and they lack a voice . On TRP we have a saying "There's 3 sides to every story. Her side, his side, and the truth, which may or may not lie in the middle" and the famous "Do not listen to what people say, but see at what they do". On TRP or asktrp for example, lots of p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 10:45 AM
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Yes, I think I spoke with you about this before. It's just a character trait I'm working on. Yeah, I guess I did. See, sometimes when naive people find the obvious "trick solution" they were missing all along, they really rush to tell other people. Its an itch almost. Even when those people tell you that you're a fucking idiot and this was obvious, they still want to. You see it all the time in people who find some success with TRP(or at least enough to get them excited)... they become rabid abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 01:44 AM
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So you do admit be yourself is terribly unhelpful. But the sentence I said is pretty much self-improvement in a nutshell, with a focus on what makes you worth keeping. Whereas "Be Yourself" ascribes no course of action. It is redundant even.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 12:49 AM
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Its certainly a quality, sure. But not the only one. Patrice O' Neal said it best: "Pussy's not all I want, unless that's all you got". Respect, emotional compatibility and satisfaction, parenthood, shared history, ample sex life with lots of sexual desire for him(and not just sexual frequency), fitness, friendship, trust, love, etc all those good things make a man likely to want to stay with you. What we are not reading in these stories is what the wife was like to the men in the OP in anyway. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 12:48 AM
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LMAO. Did you literally just copy this meme from GamerGate and men's rights? Because those are the venues most commonly poking fun at feminist bullshit through that lens.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 12:02 AM
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im not an EC, your memes aren't funny, and i had the window open for days.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 10:55 PM
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You can start by a fundamental step that most western utterly ignore... to summarize this as succinctly as possible: Be worth keeping.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 10:11 PM
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I have literally almost never in all my years of seeing RPs and outsiders argue seen a long-time RP move goalposts on a theory. The ECs pretty much have a reputation for doubling down if anything, doesn't even matter if you get thousands of people visiting them from all over reddit. They defend every single word they say. Keep tossing around buzzwords as they make you feel better though. Maybe someone got your panties in a bunch accusing you of hamstering, and you feel obligated to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 09:57 PM
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What a bland and platitude-ridden comment. In even its most "woman-hating" or paranoid moments, TRP's advice is still to blame yourself for not being able to deal with it. If a woman is bitchy, ungrateful or unattracted to you or whatever else... it is still 100% your fault. TRP's mantra of "everything is your fault" I've only seen rebelled against in minute amounts when it gets said to guys who were cheated on. Have you read occamsusername btw? You might not stick to the opinion that TRP is abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 08:06 PM
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Ask us.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 07:39 PM
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I feel like your reply now would've been a much better response than the previous one you gave. And umm... word to the wise, (and don't take it badly even though its coming from a stranger who barely knows you, and I know I'm making assumptions... but you do it a loooot)... as a fellow person who dislikes communicating with the disingenuous -or generally just people who fail to make me want to-, this behaviour is a very poor choice in practice. It gives the other the upper hand to onlookers(whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 07:34 PM
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We'll pay you in karma.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 05:49 PM
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Do you wear special gloves?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 04:24 PM
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Do you do writing prompts? I sometimes get a kick of how BP imagine RP in action looks like, so I'm wondering what your own interpretation is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 04:24 PM
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Pls elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 04:11 PM
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This. TRP, for all its deep glaring gaping faults, is still genuinely, genuinely insightful and helpful. And I don't mean just the obvious, like the "lift, be confident" meme goes. There's more to TRP than that, and anyone seriously believing RP stops there is just applying a butthurt bandage. .... Though it is kinda deeply disconcerting though how much happier I am now as an adherent to a hateful ideology than I ever was being blue. Its disconcerting the stupid shit of theirs I defend. I just w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 03:59 PM
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Does TRP circlejerk? iirc, you can get banned in the snap of a finger for snark. Even RP-positive snark tends to get deleted /banned after RPS called a topic on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 03:09 PM
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Sex, as a desire, is what drives a lot of men to pursue women. I think porn abuse and addiction is the worst thing to fear from it. Do you feel extreme porn should be censored? How do you feel about series like "Bound Gangbangs", where a women consensually enact gangrape, or "deepthroat" series where a woman is choking on a penis? Are those socially dangerous? Absolutely not. That's the best stuff. Do you consider male porn stars, some of whom have made millions of dollars (if they own their own…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 03:03 PM
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non-con?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 03:00 PM
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provided the community stays organized and coherent in the aftermath. Coherent is the key-word. Right now, we don't care to be slandered, hell we encourage it. We encourage every misunderstanding that gets outsiders to leave. But if we get censored, then image really matters.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/15 02:47 PM
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How do you win though? If you've nothing to fight with. TRP is powerless.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/15 02:45 PM
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I'm just saying, adhom to feminists is kinda extremely spurned. Whereas adhomming opponents of feminists is SUPER fair game. So much so, its a meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 08:22 AM
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(the national average for sex partners really isn't that high) Which is based on women self-reporting. Women lie. Fact. And its also mixed in with ugly women's reports.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 08:21 AM
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if you're female, the above three criticisms aren't really bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/15 07:53 AM
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reported, mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 09:34 AM
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Just curious. Is your username a homage to Bo Burnham's poetry? In his show "What."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 11:29 PM
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He is expressing his asinine thoughts. What I fail to understand is why they're being given the importance of a full video.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 11:28 PM
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How do you perceive men are loved?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 11:13 PM
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Whats your actual number? Also, don't fall for the fun questions game from /u/We_Are_Legion above. I've been doing it in text game and girls are such whores. I love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 09:06 PM
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Debate aside, I would highly recommend the "48 laws of Power" for you to read. You might find it helpful for your work and relationships. And understanding your mistakes. You can get audiobook easily if you're stressed for time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 08:39 PM
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Do you have a cyborg right hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 08:18 PM
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my hands.... are the same like, if you superimpose them, they're pretty much identical as far as i can tell. you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 08:16 PM
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Pardon my stupid suggestion but reddit source code is freely available, yes? If the sub got taken down, couldn't we simply make a backup reddit? And restart even freer than before?
/r/TheRedPill05/02/15 06:59 PM
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1) unhaaaaappy*. Only 'a' repeats. What you're doing is too far man. 2) I've only ever seen the word used to refer to third parties, never to someone directly. 3) Lets not pretend that its in any shape or form unusual for mocking to occur, especially if you think you know better about how their situation ends. Refer to TBP's virgin-shaming for an example. Or mocking of "nice guys".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 04:34 PM
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I'm sad you deleted your account. It would've been nice to have debaters like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 10:23 AM
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You wouldn't notice because it happens slowly, or at least it did for me. Most people aren't interested in hearing a RP story though, so I'll save that, but just know nobody really notices or cares. There is little, if anything, to outwardly make people turn heads, and little you can start applying in a day, or a week. Even learning frame control takes months.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 10:12 AM
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You're not really using that word correctly. is "casual" better?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 09:48 AM
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Why would you think marriages and long-term relationships were the red pill ideal? I'm certainly not in one. I'm not suffering any dry spell either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 06:41 AM
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Apparantly, the person you responded to. Move along, your ideals are not sacrosanct and your opinions of his are absolutist strawmans.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 06:39 AM
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BP is insane if that's what they percieve as outrage porn nowadays. Women, I believe, inherently cannot stand opinions existing that in any way involve them. This is the only way I think this reply is that note-worthy to them. "Pleasant to be around and good-looking but I don't care about qualities X, Y, Z". What the fuck? What is even wrong with that? What was so wrong he said to deserve an outpouring of rage and insults and belittlement?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 06:37 AM
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What the fuck is even going through your brains when you say shit like this? Person says he wants so and so in a woman. "Burn him! ANd this is the canon redpill beliefs!" What the fuck? What beliefs?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 06:35 AM
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Just right click and click "open in incognito tab". I suck at graphs but I went and put the numbers in this online thingy anyway. Some trends: Kinda interesting one is that anti-red sentiment is a lot more strongly pronounced, while red pill is more casual. RP is also far more left-leaning than expected. Especially socio-political leanings. RPers are far more often single and not in marraiages or long-term relationships. BP and RP are decidedly equally religious. (18 religious RP to 20 religious…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 04:51 PM
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And that's what I mean. TRP is as varied in ideas as TBP is. The difference is TBP doesn't like to be tied down to specific opinions in debates but hold TRPers subject to them like a bible. Its lopsided, but tolerated. The idea that TBP is so disparate as to be unknowable is as intellectually worthless as the idea that women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 04:46 PM
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EDIT: ***Only one girl's ever beaten my answer for craziness tho. My answer for this is that I masturbated during a math exam once. To top me this one girl told me she used to masturbate on the back of her dad's motorcycle on the way to school. She then immediately went beet-red and covered her face with her hands. Instead of being disgusted, I laughed. I later fingered this girl on my home subwoofer to animus vox[1] . lol, I love you. I'm so trying that. Not the subwoofer thing, the questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 04:40 PM
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Unless you've found some error in the methodology what does it matter? Their conclusions that you've quoted are pretty reaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 07:25 AM
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I'm going to imagine you the way I do most red pillers, 17, short and angry at women for not being attracted to your shitty personality. story of the blue pill
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 06:56 AM
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I do research in genetics actually and on that note... some of those guys at TRP would do well to spend a little time with some text books. Some of the ramblings on 'genetics' can really make you cringe. Correct them. If you contribute to discussion, people will appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 06:55 AM
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You're imagining caricatures when you say "practicing". You don't even know what the practice itself is. Most people who don't read TRP with the intent of figuring a course of action out, don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 06:39 AM
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Which is a very good indicator of their beliefs. SJW types tend to congregate and circlejerk over the same things. Conversation on TBP rarely differs from the same platitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 06:33 AM
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Clearly reading the red pill is worse than cheating or hitting her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 05:58 AM
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so you knew these guys were commenting on /r/theredpill? This is kinda strange. I've honestly not let a soul know and I've been reading various blogs and books(not the sub tho) for years. I think TRP really emphasizes suiting your audience. Very few people carry over their behaviour from /r/TheRedPill even to other subreddits, much less real life. the best way I can think to describe him is: that guy who joins the conversation and everyone rolls their eyes, and laughs after he leaves because "wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 09:20 PM
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Hmm... dunno, really. This is the kinda question you can't answer yourself. On the other hand, its a neat idea for text game.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 09:11 PM
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I cringe now because I've actually been the dumb fucking goon squad.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/15 11:45 AM
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Now imagine if my response to this generalization of yours was "You're just getting with shitty people, honey" maybe you shouldn't date psychopaths normal people. Because 9/10 times, that's the blue response you would get to any generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/15 09:42 AM
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Describe how a non-dominant leader becomes one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 08:13 PM
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you can do that in day-game, can't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 08:12 PM
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... hm, nah. The pedastal isn't that cliche IMO. It just takes the form of niceness and kid-gloves in social interaction. As well as default popularity and bias because subconsciously people want to fuck you and your validation is worth much more to them than other people's. In my experience, women don't really notice the pedastal and they vehemently deny being put on it, even when they expect all the associated perks. Even when they really rely on it. If you treat a woman like a man, I expect s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 07:53 PM
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Actually being perceived as a slut, in my experience, tends to correlate with poor treatment by men. A.k.a. "treatment you get when a guy doesn't particularly want to get with you". "Woman are wonderful"... unless they're sluts. Its like the pedestal collapses. In my experience(and believe me, I've consciously tried different levels of agreeableness post-RP), women really start to think you're an asshole as soon as you lose the special treatment. Example; if there's rapport and you establish you…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 05:23 PM
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This is not a quality of a great leader: dominant You could not be more wrong. There is hardly a quality more universal in leaders, in some form or another. Minus ones appointed by religion or institutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 09:26 AM
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I'm sure he's flattered.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 09:23 AM
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And for god's sake, stop being so defensive. Every time the word "slut" gets said, BP women seem to get really angry. That's taking insult when it wasn't even directed at you... which might be indicative of how it is. I'm just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 09:22 AM
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Calm down. Nobody in the modern world treats sluts like trash. Saying a woman is a slut is simply a way for other woman to reduce her sexual capital(by making her seem unsuitable for LTR), or assert their own status by shaming her. Most overt slut-shaming is done by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 09:18 AM
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You didn't read it either. And you're flinging around a lot more concrete opinions on it than he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 09:15 AM
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Maybe in america they're arbitrary affairs, but here, political debates are extremely srs bsns. and lots of people watch. if you have parliament, you should watch the proceedings sometime. The discipline, concentration, passion and focused purpose is honestly eye-catching sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:45 PM
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Definitely true. Fertility you can't check at a glance though. And very few men lack it, so many women don't check... until they're actively trying for more from sex. In slightly older times, you could question a man's virility and manhood through this fact(if you knew). That definitely reduced his SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:30 PM
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Providing counter-arguments is your job. This is how debates work. Have you ever been to one? Or seen one on TV? They usually do it for a lot of important issues. In school, it was even mandatory for us. I mean, I've long given up on expecting debate or calling for standards on PPD, but I didn't think we'd get this low; BP patting themselves on the back for a rebuttal. Btw, this same news is making the rounds on TwoX and other reddit subs long before here. You might wanna carry your rebuttal ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:19 PM
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This is a really really dumb reply. Nothing you said is relevant to anything I've said. Simply because we're fine being labeled hate group. We don't care about our image, to you. What's so hard to understand? We like seeing people like you froth at the mouth at us. In the words of camaro_ss or puasenator; because we want you guys to fuck off. " TRPers understand our meaning. BPers fuck off." also, I'm not american and I don't care about mccain past the idea that he's a politician. edit;And TRP i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 11:38 AM
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Women don't really believe in their own agency. Otherwise, they'd consistently act in a way that affirmed it. They would take responsibility for their own safety to a bare minimum of reason, instead of ascribing any criticism or advice as victim-blaming. They would not place sole responsibility of ascertaining their consent to be on their partner either. They would not consider themselves raped instead of the rapists when one of two inebriated partners. They would, as a cause, support equally st…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 09:22 AM
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well put, i included your reference to 4chan's tactics in my own reply. hope you don't mind. Lemme know if I'm using it right too. Is /pol/ the right one to use? However, instead of saying "we don't believe what we say", I would instead say "we say it in a grating way".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 09:07 AM
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The problem with your first cartoon is John McCain is a politician, who is answerable to you and desires credibility and your acceptance. His actions therefore seem illogical and funny. But TRP is not comparable to John McCain. Instead of a politician... imagine a /pol/itician, imagine you have someone who has absolutely no respect for you, reciprocates no feelings of compulsion to enter into dialogue with you, and frankly wonders what the fuck you're doing annoying him and his club in the first…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 08:48 AM
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Prefer not to say, male, 12-13
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 08:15 AM
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Stop. Stop this what you're doing right now. never supplicate like this to anyone ever again. It didn't get you any replies, nor more serious replies. It just made you come across as a whiner and pitiable person, an image you don't want to nurture. As for your question, be decisive. You want to stay with her. You love her, but you do not want a marital contract to prove it. What /u/asd1100 said is very pertinent. Even if you disagree with this... pick a side and stick to it. Don't be so whiney, …
/r/askTRP30/01/15 07:45 AM
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BIL replied that 'no woman is good looking enough to be a bitch. That is red pill as fuck. Thank you for sharing. No sarcasm, honest. If you are willing to date a woman regardless of her personality, then you are leagues below my BIL. I'm not. This has nothign to do with me personally. I don't understand why it's always turned into "the person discussing it is bad" kinda game. I'm just describing SMV. This is the state of the game she plays. See, I would fuck her. And so would most other guys. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 06:19 AM
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is... this a tv soap?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:33 AM
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nah, lots of them do vids. youtubes filled with them. also, post link of krauser?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:30 AM
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nah, we joke around, talk in hyperbole all the time in red pill. We have in-jokes and slang and crude humour too. Even the anger is explicitly understood to be non-serious and meant to be confined to within the TRP sub, and never outside. Hell, one of the main reasons we get flak at TRP is we use generalizations and inaccurate-sounding or laissez-faire language when discussing the delicate matter of women. Our reasoning being(or at least that of ECs) that anyone who treats women like a sacred mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:17 AM
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By the way, I have a theory about BP from this post of yours. Because this is honestly a very common template for TBP replies(correct me if I'm wrong). It reminds me of the mentality of high-schoolers. i.e. Its a standard rhetorical tactic where you repeat a meaningless platitude, usually moralistic, and then imply anyone who doesn't agree with it is "uncool" or "somehow insane or bad" in some way. The objective being to inspire rapport with like-minded people and laugh at the out-group rather t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:05 AM
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Nobody denied its looks and personality. Just that looks forms the major component of why she is desired for sexual/relationship purposes at all. While personality merely supports that and makes her a viable long-term partner. Take away a woman's looks and she may well retain the personality of a saint... but still have zero SMV as far as she can tell. Give a woman stunning looks and terrible brains, and she could still have scores of men begging to pay her way in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 04:16 AM
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I would just like to commend /u/ILU2. Even though I disagree with her on all counts, even though she goes onto TRP saying the stupidest shit, even though she started this whole "you're a rapist mess".... she still has more intellectual honesty than you ever did. Or at least, she's not blinded by pill colours into losing all common sense. In this thread you accused /u/Densweed of not reading. Congratulations on being as much of a hypocrite as we can expect anyone BP of being.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 04:05 AM
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How much in demand she is in the sexual market. Usually determined mostly by looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 03:51 AM
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we all die eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 03:35 AM
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not me, we're going sightseeing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 08:58 PM
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anyone taking the internet so seriously is doing it wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 08:57 PM
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Whatever validates you. Now go play outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 08:51 PM
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No, that you are. And that we're treating you like one. Its really a case of uppity gossipmongers and attention-seekers being finally given some attention at long last. Only- wait... no, no, we still don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 08:46 PM
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nah
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 07:41 PM
-1

is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 06:43 PM
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I actually did explain. Read the link I put in the edit. At the time I posted, everyone rushed to conclusions... hysterical ones, in fact... so I let them. I mean, one even did a exceedingly stupid psychological profile of me on the spot and there are tons of "get raped in prison" comments. I didn't want to reply or take them seriously. Then this blew up and tons of people came along in posts with even more pre-conceptions based on over-hyped TBP and SRD post titles. If anyone cared to read, I a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 06:43 PM
-3

Please stop raping women! lol. "Swiper no swiping!"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 04:17 PM
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and yes the sentiment that women getting wet down there is proof it wasn't really rape has been posted by Redpillers in the past.) Yes, and /u/sh1v and /u/We_Are_Legion advocated mandatory marital rape. You guys really can't tell when you're being trolled. Either that or you're so biased to believe we're actually rapists you believe it by default... either that or you're just dumb. I remember the thread in question and /u/villaintine was trolling the obvious SRD/TBP brigade. Hell, half the TBP s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 01:23 PM
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I thought you were serious for a sec, and checked. He actually did do that. For all his "I'm less invested than you" game, he is pretty dedicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 12:51 PM
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Its because they imagine you as unattractive. A woman cannot fathom telling an unattractive man "you just have to go for it sometimes", no matter how obvious the situation. The risk, in their minds, of you misinterpreting is unacceptable. Its viscerally disturbing for them. So they will tell you you're ugly in the polite way: There is no circumstance under which you should assume you are wanted unless explicitly spelled out in overly affirmative legalese. The fish want to give you advice, low va…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 12:04 PM
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I replied to your edit in my own edit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 11:32 AM
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Hm? Where has it been shown wrong? Show me the genius that expended a long and arduous refutation on this arbitrary percentage. I would like to shake his hand. To your edit: OK. So what? The happiness maximizing number of sexual partner is 1 because nobody knows what to do past 1. Most make it to one after arduous effort. And its problematic to go further. TRP provides alternative to BP sexual strategy as its explicit aim. If you don't want it, don't take it. Behind the numbers on surveys, there…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 10:46 AM
1

go back to blue
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 10:36 AM
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Welcome to the puerarchy! Only do what is rewarding. Fuck expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 10:32 AM
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The Last Airbender was pretty bad though. The show itself was amazing diverse(here's a really interesting visual essay on that) but the movie originally had an all-americanized tween cast. Then due to fan outpouring of pleading.... Shyamalan changed the fire nation to Indians. Which is pretty fucking ridiculous considering they write in Chinese and live a very Chinese/Japanese mixed culture. I'm Indian and I didn't like it. It was just shoe-horning diversity and felt unnatural. This sort of dive…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 10:06 AM
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Oh, come of it. White men and men are refered to as "them" all the time. Just read the article in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 10:04 AM
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Exactly. The movie makers are following good business sense in every way. All attention is good attention, especially one as benign as this. Everyone whining about it drives more discussion. More exposure. More nostalgia. More sales. Honestly, if I was the producer in charge, I would've jumped at this idea. Law 6, bitches. Court Attention at all costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 10:01 AM
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That's just the thing. Most low SMV men would rather be worth something in a relationship than viewed for their utility. I'm sure we've all heard the cliche of nerd doing homework or fixing the computer of the pretty girl. Or if we're talking about some ethereal concept of "worth as a human being". Then this is a complex topic and I would welcome BP exposition on the concept. Worth being seperate from tangible value in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 10:00 AM
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Look, go away. I have already pointed you to the full story. One that I told to the one person there who bothered to be reasonable. Maybe you should follow in her footsteps and read it. Either that or jack off to your self-righteousness. I don't particularly care which. In either case, don't presume to tell me "what RP is about" or what is or is not an admission of guilt (based on your monkey court no less). If that's all you have, we're done here. Thanks for the attention but don't bother me ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 09:41 AM
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Is that it? There's a link in the edit like right there. And remorse for what? That I offended you? Read better, then. I see no admission. Just one misinterpreted sentence getting hundreds of SJW panties in a twist. I later told the story (linked in the edit) to the one person who cared to ask. /u/Iwillpixiecutyou
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 09:26 AM
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elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 09:12 AM
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lol, either put up or shut up. As it is, I have no idea what you're talking about... If you're gonna exercise the favourite BP past-time of stalking people, and hurling character-assassinations, at least don't make me do the work. Just cut to the chase. What do you want? A belly rub? Is Timmy stuck in the well?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 09:07 AM
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Hmmm... Nope, I don't think I ever admitted to that. Why don't you go find me a source, my nascent paparazzi.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 08:43 AM
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I honestly wonder the same thing about you clowns.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 08:11 AM
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This is not true. Women may be less likely to be attracted to just physicality, or value other traits just as much/more than the physical, but that doesn't negate their preferences. You're contradicting yourself. This is by definition, attraction being mutable. And more mutable than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 07:57 AM
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A man can plate-spin willing women who are also plate-spinning. Lmao. Women sleeping around is practically does itself. Even qualifying to be the type of man women "plate-spin" is more of a game than "plate-spinning" as a woman. Else, a lot of men would be happy, rather than the top 20% of men. And more importantly, very few women in my experience even want that sort of arrangement IMO. In the real world, that'd just be inviting the "slut" label. Its something unheard of here in Japan. Most wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 07:22 AM
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BPs and their platitudes. Just post the "women are diffrunt" line and that's a standin for any sort of reasoning against a generalization. Absolutely pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 07:13 AM
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Platitudes and strawmans. With a dash of NAWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 08:23 PM
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are we gonna fuck or what
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 06:22 PM
1

tradcons?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 06:19 PM
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Yes. Now kiss me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 06:04 PM
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There is wiggle room. I am speaking in general. In general, feminism is functionally, if not explicitly, an enabler of sexual strategy. Just because I didn't use legalese doesn't mean you taking what I said in absolutes is a counter-point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 05:50 PM
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damn good point. but i think it says less about the person and more about how ridiculously taboo saying something like that must seem to these people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 05:40 PM
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Your point is predictable. The obvious difference being RP does not aim to be inclusive. Its a personal philosophy, where you change yourself according to market demand. Accordingly, we aren't acting consistantly in any shape or form to an ideology that wants to be popular or accepted. Hell, the management and old userbases seem unanimous in trying to push most people out. Feminism is different. Its an exercise in sexual strategy where it changes the sexual market, instead of women changing them…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 05:23 PM
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Everyone trains everyone else on how to behave with them. Through a variety of methods, including reward/punishment. TRP just does it consciously and then gives it a funny label. EDIT: went and read the actual post. I don't see how he's saying anything wrong. He actually has a very good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 03:35 PM
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I can either work at my job or reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 03:34 PM
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I. Am. Not. A. Rapist. The only reason I haven't given the details yet: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2s3r69/a_bp_view_trp_isnt_crazy/cntlbrz
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 05:20 AM
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This is the full explanation for why I did not defend myself. This is the comment he was referring to. Never take these paparazzi at their word. The guy wilfully misinterpreted what I said because he was dead-set in his assumptions and the misguided original accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 04:44 AM
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I even gave the full story now. If your conscience was bothering you about supporting a rapist on your board, for what its worth, here it is. The people attacking me for this were trolls and oversensitive idiots. It took just a single sincere person for me to give an explanation. Its sad how hard that person was to find, and sad I had to give it proactively to a knee-jerk pitch-fork wielding mob, rather than be assumed guilty after people asked for and had obtained information.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 04:37 AM
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Very edgy. Lets get some upvotes here. oh, and if I am a virgin, what is even your problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 06:15 PM
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Thank you, pixiecut, for being refreshingly balanced in a barrage of BP idiocy. When you're on the recieving end of a mob, that one guy who appears to be balanced about you seems like a saint, honestly. The original responses to my post ranged from: a "we have all suspected it of many of you. props for finally saying it!", a psychological analysis that leaps from conclusion to conclusion by our very own reputed troll, taiboworks and "you are a serial rapist!". So like I said, there was hardly an…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 01:15 PM
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When you talk using words you have no idea what they mean, you sound stupid to people who do. Alpha and beta are colloquial in-group terms that refer to something very specific and well-defined within the context of the TRP sub. It isn't a stand in for "admirable man". For example, Genghis Khan was indisputably "alpha". He was not a moral man. Alpha and beta are colloquial terms that TRP uses to refer to types of attraction. Alpha being used as a descriptor for a person describes traits of a per…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 12:04 PM
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hm, not quite. one just tends to be willing to do/sacrifice more. especially given the modern age. a woman needs to be sexy and willing to have sex, not great burdens by any means, to have legions of admirers and potential mates. she doesn't need to do much to even find a husband. she will be loved, no matter what. a man needs to do a lot to have the same. so while both do have a conditional mindset towards relationships, men's conditions tend to not be about what she can do, but rather what she…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 09:42 AM
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I like your reasoning behind PPD, roflcopter. But if it helps you sleep at night, there was no rape. Don't believe me or demonize me as you like, but the only reason I haven't given the story yet is because literally nobody cared to ask me for one. They simply did not care to do anything but jump to their conclusions so I'll let them. Simple as that. That faux-pas is regrettable but I'm not exactly native language either. Oh, and the fact, that its extremely anti-climatic and I'm not in the habi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 08:16 AM
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I think I'll literally link her to this post. I have her online on facebook right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 08:05 AM
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k
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 08:03 AM
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Hmmm.... no. Not feeling it. And the saying no bit is patently absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 07:05 AM
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I think you're projecting the anger bit. I'm perfectly calm.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 06:27 AM
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The word was "straight", not "hard". Keep being illiterate. We have nothing to discuss further. You'll go through life forming conclusions that are wrong. Nothing I can do to change that with an attitude like yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 05:21 AM
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Fourthed. I've emigrated from India as well. I never got the impression I was unwelcome. Hell, I've had lengthy discussions on the topic of specific sexual strategy(where to find Indian girls, especially).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 05:17 AM
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First, you confused me with villaintine repeatedly. A person who is quite obviously trolling you kids and inviting you to leave. Do you take "the most responsible teenager in the house" entirely literally too? Second, you interpreted the part about me not wanting to respond to undercover stakeouts or witch-trial interrogations as me being offended someone mistook what I'm saying. Take a look at the responses to my original post: a psychological thesis that leaps from conclusion to conclusion by …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 05:01 AM
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That's one possibility. Whats the other? Cmon, wrack your brain. Here's a hint: I'm still in constant and friendly contact with the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 12:59 PM
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That second thing with the pants was villaintain. Who is obviously trying and succeeding in getting a rise out of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 12:39 PM
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Seems kina stupid, huh? Because it is. Understatement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 07:10 AM
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I linked a specific response, dumbass
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:59 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2s3r69/a_bp_view_trp_isnt_crazy/cntlbrz
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:55 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2s3r69/a_bp_view_trp_isnt_crazy/cntlbrz
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:55 AM
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That's the thing, its pointless. Absolutely pointless. This sort of thing didn't help the other guys targeted in their albums, so I'm gonna go the route chosen unanimously by the ECs and mods: no response at all. Because they don't matter. Let them believe what they want. Hell, feed them more of what they want. They'll eventually realize how pointless internet gossip is, and how it actually feeds TRP. In both containing its population growth so they can have a smaller proportion of newbies at a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:45 AM
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Except I won't be caught. Because I've never been reported. And probably never will be. I wonder why. Maybe someone should've asked for the slightest bit of context before jumping to your preconceived and insulting conclusions. This click-bait ends rather anti-climatically. Trust me, I know the spoilers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:26 AM
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Biotrooofs lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:06 AM
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What you expect is what you get. Your expectations colour your reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:04 AM
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None of you wanted context the moment I posted the story. You immediately jumped to the conclusion you held long before I even wrote it... simply because I'm red. None of them asked for how it happened or asked me to clarify or showed the tiniest bit of reasonable doubt before assuming I am an insane and incorrigible rapist. Why should I write a explanation, long or short, for people like that? Why not let them believe what they want to? This is a fucking internet website and I will be hounded w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:03 AM
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In casual sex, tokens of no happen. Its up to you to decide what to do. I went for it. It was pretty obvious. She thanked me after.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 05:40 AM
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The law isn't that efficient yet. Especially since I've never been reported. And probably never will be. I wonder why. I'll leave you to guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 05:35 AM
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that guy's a wannabe troll-bait! I'm the real asshole here! Can we get back to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 05:33 AM
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he's baiting you, btw i'm the legitimate rapist here! giveee meee your attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 05:32 AM
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On PPD. Where RP participants can start threads too. Where the RP participants are heavily outnumbered. Assuming just because something isn't expressed here means its not common in the entire manosphere is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 02:58 PM
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The argument isn't literally that a guy opens the door to sex. Its that he's the limiting factor. He can negotiate for it more, and obtain value in exchange for it. Meanwhile women can negotiate for and obtain value in exchange for commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 02:30 PM
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Why would you believe that? Sounds like you believe such a thing purely to rationalize your cognitive dissonance. flips table lmao, what the fuck. what the even fuck, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 02:14 PM
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k
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 02:12 PM
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Oh, god, I cringe now. I was such an idiot.
/r/TheRedPill18/01/15 01:05 PM
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How are you not being illiterate here? He actually did explain it. poorly, sure, but he did explain the origin of the phrase.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 10:16 AM
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It is not a popular position. jesus christ. the positions is that the market value of relationships will change drastically, assuming that prostitutes are very cheap and of reasonable quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 10:01 AM
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TRP, while it claims to be amoral, is used immorally more often than members of the sub would like to admit (ex. sleeping with taken women is immoral to most people). Literally does not understand the definition of amoral. I dare say you don't even differentiate between TRP and TRPer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 06:23 AM
-1

You forgot the slogan
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 06:20 AM
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Nope. Absolutely disagree with the science part. TRP provides more sources all around than TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 06:20 AM
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Also, you don't have science on your side and every time I hear TRPers acting like they do I roll my eyes You rolling your eyes is not evidence of anything either. You have science on your side just as much as we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 06:19 AM
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When you vomit cookie-cutter strawmans designed to help you fellatio SJWs, you'd not think about what you write too. No thought required. Just fucking stroke the taglines.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 06:17 AM
0

How does one make that assessment?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 06:05 AM
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If you're in the habit of losing partners, best to keep those bonds thin. Also, who said oxytocin runs out?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 05:59 AM
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Everything we do changes our brain. The first time you dive off a cliff. Its hells scary. Such a rainbow of emotions. The 10th time, its normal. Don't let me interrupt your feel-good circlejerk though. Its hilarious people re-assuring themselves they're right, as if that's a substitute to being right. This is kinda how women create rapport; supporting each other and gossiping creates their relationships and how secure they feel. You wouldn't find men circlejerking like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 05:53 AM
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This is actually true for both men and women Show me. You have absolutely no proof as substantial as what RP's brought against female sluts. I'd argue you have none at all. I'm honestly curious to see what you've got. Moreover, when TRP people post studies about divorce risk they've done it for the purposes of debate. The aversion to sluts is our own, and non-negotiable. The facts just support it. TRP stance on marriage is a "don't do it" not "do it with so and so woman". Where did you get the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 05:52 AM
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I think the amount of replies this recieved in just 4 hours shows a lot more than they're actually saying. This is a pattern that repeats itself for dozens of threads where this is mentione. RP Maxim number 1: Listen to what they do, rather than what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 08:17 PM
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where they see women having sex not for their own personal pleasure but rather sex is something women give to men to reward them. This is how a market is understood. Not individual relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 08:14 PM
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you know the red pill/blue pill ratio is lopsided when myths from within BP circlejerks come to represent actual answers from red pill in a debate. And not just one but several. No, this is not a source of cognitive dissonance because we are not seeking equilibrium or fair play. We are willfully seeking unfair and advantageous terms, that favour us, or at least end with us imposing play we can call fair. TRP is a giant exercise in opportunists. New people often struggle with putting a moral spin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 08:08 PM
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OK, women lack determination. I agree there as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 07:41 PM
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did not read. start withsomething that makes me want to next time. something that differentiates you from the trolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 07:40 PM
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He's right btw, when he referred to you as the Fox News of Reddit. Except you're left-wing. Half of your album-ized outrage porn is context-less rubbish as well. Haven't bothered to pay attention to that either. I call tone policing. Tone policing is a feminist concept. not ours. the original mods adopted it in line with TRP authors. since you might not be familiar with pook or laidnyc, i'll refer greene instead. i think law 44 from 48 laws of power you can google tone policing. its hard to abus…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 07:37 PM
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idaf. i even stopped reporting cause mods do nothing. the blues are bred circlejerkers. they provoke it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 07:32 PM
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I'm gonna have to turn the caps on for this. This needs emphasis. WHY THE FUCK DO YOU INTERPRET EVERYTHING IN ABSOLUTES IN ORDER TO HAVE A SEMBLANCE OF AN ARGUMENT AGAINST IT? Why the hell does a quality not being inherently tied to a group's nature or genes absolve the fact that they display it overwhelmingly? No, women are not over-generalized. Its just that your interactions with them have been simplistic, unambitious and superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 07:31 PM
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RP ECs absolutely can be generalized. There's nothing wrong with that. Making him the equivalent of our grand priest or canonical source or in any way a preacher of the red pill "bible" is what ive issue with
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 07:16 PM
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What men use women for, and what women use men for differs. As an example, the rate at which women discard men for not having a sizable income would exceed 20-200x the rate at which men reject women for the same
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 07:12 PM
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Sure. But did we bring those up?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 07:27 AM
0

Great reply. Sad to see it buried with nothing but a response akin to "women nurture sick people. Checkmate athiests".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 07:26 AM
0

A woman's romantic worth is not tied to her doing her duties. Men have long and widely been known to love women incapable of doing much of anything. Including love them freely and without bargaining. Very rarely are men afforded the same privilege. The exceptions being the abusive/dark triads. They're kept for their own sake, just like women are. If you truly love the woman, and not what she can do for you, does that mean you'd keep loving her even if she quit doing anything beneficial for you? …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 07:24 AM
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Personality does not equal woman. I would say by prize he means a woman's value + her love for you. A woman doesn't need to be able to do anything for a man to love her. For a very long time, being dainty and reliant(and thus, loving) was considered the epitome of attractive. In fact, outside the west, it still is. You have no idea to what extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 07:11 AM
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/u/cyralea believes religion should be used to keep women "in order", and he's EC. So the fuck what? He's not a priest. EC just means he's read through RP, contributed a lot to the sub's growth/original content(either that or runs his own well-known content site before TRP) and has the personality to express RP in his own unique flavour. It doesn't mean he's obligated to guide people as if they're children, or mind his words/behaviour as a role model to aspire to. Or that all his words and ideas…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 05:44 AM
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Fuckin yes. Also, girls. Can't forget those. Oh, I'm sorry, were you being facetious?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 05:21 AM
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Another great post. Just wanted to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 05:18 AM
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BP did. Don't say things that upset the majority. How dare you suggest they don't have the same incentives? Or that they'd take something so "shallow" and unPC?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 05:08 AM
-2

It might or it might not. But the woman stops working before 10,000 hours for sure. ANd mastery isn't all that's needed to be brilliant. Innovators are just brilliant by default sometimes. Or they're risk-takers and entrepreneurs. Hardly things commonly found in women. I'd add originality to that list but that's a personal, untestable opinion. The above are facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 04:34 AM
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But the law pretty much already favours mothers for reasons along these lines. The law automatically assumes the father/hsuband the abuser, etc. It investigates him more thoroughly in case of accusations. ANd the default court decision is in favour of mothers. I actually don't think that's unfair. A child needs their dad, and I think the law is to an extent overly heavy handed and proactive in prevent them from getting their dad, but I do think in light of statistics its not unfair to protect wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 04:30 AM
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Nope. I wouldn't invest in a company either that didn't show long-term potential given I had two companies to choose from. Fact is, whether you like it or not, gender is a pretty reliable predictor, per capita, for how well they'll go on to do. I form no preconceptions on whether this is women's inability or more bias further down the line. I speculate on the lack of incentives personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 11:39 PM
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Japan: Women at high ranks face a tougher time to rank to positions of greater responsibility, even if they theoretically deserve it. I've seen it happen. A few times would be plausible, but then it becomes blatant, and the end move becomes a sort of begrudging thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 11:36 PM
1

If I were to mentor someone I'd pick someone who's likely to take my investment in him to achieve something new or noteworthy for example. Statistically, in science, that'd be like 80-90% men. I applaud those scientists who gave the girls a chance though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 11:31 PM
1

And Nemesis absolutely is. i salute his empathetic soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 11:24 PM
6

Oh my god, listen to those people hamster about the wall. "experiment". edit; whats worse is they acknowledge every issue pointed out by RP but slap bullshit reasoning on it. Feel good half truths. What the fuck does it matter why X and Y happened? What matters is it did. And that people dont want to be second best or have people's leftovers..
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 05:47 AM
-43

To save you some trouble, I want to offer a tiny bit of advice. I'll have to hint at this to avoid upsetting rule 3 but... Um... pick and choose who to have a conversation with carefully. Right now, you've chosen poorly. My own replies to this particular choice were much more appropriate. And come highly recommended.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 10:21 PM
-20

genuinely interested; link?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 10:20 PM
-46

you could get banned from for having any doubt? Banned for being an idiot rather. Which idiots like to perceive as being banned for having a doubt. TBP has the same policy IIRC. So does every feminist themed subreddit. And any other mainstream reddit. You don't see me whining when I get banned. Or for demanding my say on /r/sex or /r/relationships or TwoX or /r/feminism. "reactionary conclusions" you mean like generalizing women from *a bunch of field reports on a subreddit The basis of your spi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 10:16 PM
-2

No, my logic is I'll treat them as they reward being treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 10:14 PM
1

Challengining someone's ideas by attempting to engage them in debate is now "looking for validation?" Challenge someone's ideas, my ass. You challenge moral character, and even saying that's generous since most of how it happens is snark, and trolling. What's more, you stalk people and compile records and then press it up against their face. The only ideas you present, even when exhorted to do otherwise... is misogyny and sexism. You have no other ideas of your own. Not only as to why TRP is wro…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 09:51 PM
-18

Don't be so mean to Freud. For all his faults, Freud actually had a lot of skill and admirable charisma in handling his patients.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 06:48 PM
-1

Oh, I'm stealing that. Offline use. AMOG or wingman potential?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 06:37 PM
-1

Look, dude. If it offends you im sorry. I respond to orangereds as i get them. idon't see flair there. To be fair though, iIn a debate though, there are two formal sides. and you arre as blue as the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 06:32 PM
-1

This is like twice now where you accuse me of not adding to discussion when all you had to do was scroll.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 06:24 PM
-19

whatever u say. reads like a random, desperate plea to stop saying mean things about women to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 06:20 PM
-3

And we treat it like one. How many varients of "feminism as a strategy" have you seen on TRP? Like search those two terms right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 06:01 PM
-57

You know what, jump to your reactionary conclusions as you like. i wont stand in the way of your outrage porn. I have no interest in defending anonymous me or anonymous TRP from people who have no interest nor intention in taking any other possible interpretation of events but the one they put their SJW finger on first. You are like my paparazzi. I welcome you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 05:00 PM
-75

whatever bro
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 04:58 PM
-2

TRP is a collection of concepts and strategies too, mate. The very fact that you have such varied outlooks even among the ECs should tell you this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 04:57 PM
-1

So what? Has this excuse prevented TBP from being talked to? Also, reported. Try not to be such a blatant and insulting troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 04:36 PM
-81

Oh yah. bro. im a rapist. all no's always mean a no, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 04:31 PM
-1

who vehemently reject that TRP's ideas apply to them would have convinced someone. You were the one who posted We_are_legion's comment on people's unreliability at estimating themselves. You were the one who found it insightful. Have you like changed your mind or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 04:11 PM
0

We don't. But /r/theredpill never asked your opinion. And we don't care for it. Meanwhile, you do incessantly obsess over ours. This is the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 04:08 PM
0

TRP needs to change their terminology, because they're not saying what they mean. If it drives people like you away, it serves its purpose. You guys have long faced a choice of either acknowledging TRP is crazy and pay attention to htose mod posts and of acknowledging that TRP is inciting you and acknowledging those mod posts. Half the posts in your sidebar album are fucking jokes. And they've never been corrected in months of being there. You're doing our work for us. That should tell you how l…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 04:07 PM
1

As usual the BP majority circlejerk upvotes its inane conundrums as it likes. Its almost like we dont exist and aren't available on this debate to be asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 04:05 PM
-19

k
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 04:03 PM
6

This is done all the time. In casual conversation and in-depth discusison of the sub. By us and you. The difference is two fold. First, when we generalize about women, we don't really ask women for their opinion(or anyone for that matter). This might give you the impression that AWALT is absolute or as you so bluely put; "totally legit". Meanwhile, when you generalize about us, you are constantly looking for validation. When those albums were made for example, no BPer would shut up about them. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 10:03 AM
0

That's happening too. But I meant, the effect of TRP on TBP discourse and reddit discourse to be far less femi-centric. Even Reddit painfully acknowledges TRP works, but just dislikes the way its done.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 07:11 AM
2

You know what? Maybe you don't. I accept how inept I must be to admit this. But I don't care. On all outward results, we're on level ground though. Just know that "prey on women's insecurities to X" is a bit of a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 06:50 AM
-80

Before TRP, I was a sort of a coward in relationships. I can reasonably be called a big guy. Not fat. Big. Through conditioning and bad experiences, I was taught to be ashamed of this. I have a good height and build but wished every day all through school I was smaller. So I could be less noticable to people who liked to gang up on the guy they're jealous of. Most of all this manifested in the way I treated women like I mentioned before. When I was in my anger phase, the first thing that enraged…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 06:24 AM
3

As opposed to "I don't get what I want" and still get subjected to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 05:47 AM
0

Well put.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 04:57 AM
1

Ooh. Nice! Best answer
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 04:53 AM
0

You are just one in a long trend of TBPers divorcing themselves from abject denialism to a partially TRP view. The conversation on sex and gender on reddit has changed dramatically over TRP's existence. That much was expected considering how much they couldn't control themselves with regards to us. But most interestingly, we're slowly corrupted the bastion of BP thought as well, /r/TheBluePill. Its almost too good of a satire.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 04:40 AM
-1

Reported for rule 1 and 2
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 04:35 AM
-15

However, I don't think that is enough to excuse the treatment of women TRP promotes Its the treatment that reality, and indeed they themselves incentivize. If a woman earned it, I'd treat her better. By default, they do not. Just this morning, I went shopping for a girl, like 3-5 hours. That's pretty beta as far as plates go. But she earned it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 04:30 AM
3

What is this 'whoever uses the most irrelevant english wins'? What is with this winning shit too, in fact? You wanna win so bad, say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 11:49 PM
-2

so where exactly would i send the pictures so people would find the clothes in them and sell them to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 11:38 PM
-3

the rest of the outfit like, the complete outfit. i dont wanna fuck around. i give a whole look, and they send me the things that make it. or as close as possible. and the girl. if i ask her measurements/size/stuff, it should be doable right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 11:29 PM
0

But I like uggs. Fuck your generalizations. edit; no seriously, im not entirely sure what they're called, but I searched uggs and I'm pretty sure that's what like a good quarter of all girls wear in winter here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 11:19 PM
-2

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=long+skirts&iax=1&ia=images p sexy imo Im thinking I might actually buy some of these as a gift. edit; do any girls know of where I can like order outfits? like i give them the image and they find it and send me the stuff? or is there a specific subreddit for this? edit 2; if this isn't a business already. make it one. god knows women lack entrepreneurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 11:10 PM
1

You know what? This entire conversatoin is ridiculous. You sound hysterical, I hope you know(and I know you don't). This post, like most posts by you, is an exercise in stupid. First, you're not actually actually agreeing with me. In fact, there is no logic whatsoever, mine or yours, involved in what you wrote. Your post is convoluted nonsense. And I'm not saying that because you're trying to insult me. Its canonically stupid. For one example, if you even read sh1v's post before you got your pan…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 11:09 PM
1

This shit doesn't belong in a debate is the point. When you bring this shit up, its taken to be a reply to the post and argument in question. When you refuse to answer an argument or statement and resort to shaming people and personal attacks("piece of shit", character assassinations, etc), why the fuck should we talk to you? Is everyone who behaves like you to be given a free-pass to hamster away(BUT I DIDNT RESPOND TO POST) their shitty behaviour? Why shouldn't we similarly tell you you're a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 11:04 PM
3

He actually offered an analysis, and offered a insightful, thoughtful clear-cut prediction of why that is holding true right before your eyes(from OP's original reply till here). And arguably, holds true every single day. You're just trolling and BlPing; edgy replies, but no substance. TRP ECs nailed down women in bars, and women in LTRs, and they've even generalized PPD feminists to a T. I say that's pretty damn impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 10:57 PM
0

stalking harass or persecute (someone) with unwanted and obsessive attention. now go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 10:44 PM
4

Is this like a commercial break in logical-pokemon? Where you do the flashcards, and we name all the different fallacies? The one you did now is a Tu-Quoque btw; a form of ad-hominem. I just linked a very thorough analysis from Whisper, and used it to show you what you're doing. To refute it, you say "no u" AND DO EXACTLY what he described you'd do. Very nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 09:50 PM
1

I have him tagged (res), too remind myself to bring his shittiness to light if I happen across his post So you're stalking him. So you're just getting more wrong. Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 09:38 PM
-1

There are two possibilities Either you are stalking him. Or its an adhom.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 09:31 PM
-2

I was in fact making a comment about his character but not in an attempt to discredit him. So, it's not ad hominem. Grade A rationalization. So the reason you're commenting in this thread is to stalk him?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 09:21 PM
2

Again? Like there is literally a encyclopedia definition of ad-hominem... like right. there. Right. Fucking there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 08:57 PM
2

Je suís Charlie.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 08:51 PM
-3

For supporting mandatory rape? Feminism 4.0 confirmed. You guys are like fundamentalist muslims.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 08:29 PM
-1

It's not irrelevant. I'm just reminding people that he's a piece of shit. /u/Whisper nailed you guys so fucking well. You don't deserve serious convo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 08:27 PM
2

lol, if he's not. I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 08:26 PM
-1

I just said if you don't like the misinterpretations, leave. He never expressed anything like that, though I cannot imagine why you think anyone shouldn't. All he did was make a very good point about how people prefer honing in on what offends them most. Here they're literally told its the equivalent of a joke or hyperbole in the same post, but they lose all reading comprehension when told its to do with women. The jargon's meaning was given in the last sentence. Surely you realize that. The nex…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 03:36 PM
-1

but thats not being crazy. and you can't coexist with a sane person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 05:25 PM
0

LMR doesn't mean they dont like you. Like 80% the girls do it because of trust issues. Or insurance issues. Or just plain teasing. because they like being chased. in the latter, its not a no, but being coy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 05:18 PM
0

the OP by spartacus was a comprehensive criticism of TRP. By saying it was accurate, he admitted those mistakes, and acknowledged those weaknesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 05:16 PM
0

ha, if someone resists me, i realize... they are crazy and move on. Seems to be a pattern with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 05:12 PM
0

And you didn't argue against the fact that everyone grow up in an asymmetric and unequal relationship with your parents. Was that a momjoke?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 05:10 PM
1

ha, im not gonna be lectured on "hiding my own issues" by the likes of you. so believe what you like, yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 12:55 AM
1

you know who is crass and misogynistic, crass and misogynistic people have you ever considered seeking mental help? You're very quick to leap to judgments you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 11:20 PM
5

You really do not understand trp Of course he doesn't. Don't even give blatant, shitty strawmans like this the dignity of a reply. I could explain like 7 different misconceptions wrong with this post, and be returned a reply with 20 different misconceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 08:48 PM
3

i know you like most red pillers want to be liked despite being a self centered inconsiderate person. the reality is people don't like self centered inconsiderate people. so accept that being self centered makes you unlikeable, or become a nicer, kinder person. you can't be both. The other guy already said it best: Your attempt at stereotyping is as pathetic as your knowledge of Red Pill. Oh and lastly, if you want to argue most red pillers are not like that, then explain the tone on /r/theredpi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 08:29 AM
-2

get this to the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 08:15 AM
0

And I could kill you. not really. maybe with a gun, but that's it. is it likely? yes, it is. look, i dont come from the same background as you guys. ive already been in lethal situations, including fights with people of murderous intent, where only hospital intervention prevented deaths. real life's not rainbows and roses. real fights are very ugly and very uncoordinated. people don't retain technique. not even very well trained ones. and employing technique specifically honed for fighting other…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 08:06 AM
2

:| :/ :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 08:04 AM
-2

im serious. kids take martial arts classes and dont expect to get stabbed. or rushed. or suckered. or hit with "illegal" strikes. or tackled. or restrained. or intimidated or disoriented. or don't understand how weight works. i realize i dont trigger any stereotypes over anon text, but I'm honestly new to that edgy joke of yours. i could kill a female kickboxing champ.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 09:44 PM
-1

i'm the wrong person to make that joke to, bro. i'd probably kill her. in a real fight, there aren't rules, you see. and its a shitty argument anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 09:09 PM
0

You literally fail to comprehend anything that was said. By yourself or me. Read 3 and 4 in the post i linked. it illustrates what you're doing really well. Its like rushdie said "When someone reads a 600 page book and then claims to be offended. Well, they put in a hell of a lot of effort to be offended." This scenario of yours: You have guys screaming "we're going, bitches. Just watch us, we'll leave and you'll be sorry!" and the collective female response seems to be "K. Will you just leave a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 09:00 PM
-2

Right, but the problem does have an obvious solution that is not blatantly wrong and wishful thinking: You clamp down on all the people who engage in it(including me and reds), but especially those in the habit of starting and perpetuating it. You discourage inflamatory behaviour in the first place and treat as a causative factor, from both sides. The reason being its actually very generous to call most TBPers "trolling" because this is their base level of behaviour. They have no intention of ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 08:38 PM
-3

This is where you're getting BP support where a person with sense would see the idea behind AWALT. All women suck at sports becomes... most women pretty much suck at sports. Its a good assumption to make. If I met a woman, I have a lifetime of social engineering that tells me to assume AWALT. That all women are nonathletic and weak. And that I should not expect of them what I would from myself or a man. Both statements are correct. One is just uglier to say. All it means is "assume until shown o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 07:26 PM
-2

Yeah, its a rule of thumb. It evolved into AWALT, because we get 8 million minus 90 thousand uninvited unique visitors per month, who repeat ad nauseam the familiar whine of NAWALT. And in your new example, it becomes even more appropriate to assume things where you can't easily tell or know at a glance. Most women are like that. Like 80% under the right conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 07:22 PM
-1

in itself a strawman argument. No, mate it seems you are incapable of reading anything but strawmans. Here "Maybe, maybe not but just to be safe, let's assume all women are psychopathic, narcissitic whores?" And here for the most part all over the world in every shadow of every second of history ever, all women (of a specific origin and age group of course) are Bloody Mary, Margret Thatcher, and my bitch stepmom. You again demonstrate you are woefully incapable of not stretching things to absurd…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 07:18 PM
-3

But I did notice the RP trolling more, because before I was never a target of it. TRP trolling is mostly reactionary though. The people who are targets of RP trolling overwhelmingly start off the unwise decision of flinging blatant abuse, spite or vitriol to users who recieve it every day and are frankly sick of it. Of course some are going to stop caring and play back.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 11:48 PM
1

I didn't see you stepping in to chide him for his lack of observance of the 'fundamental rules of debate'. Pardon my lack of omnipotence. And at least you can sympathize with the feeling. I actually don't know what petticoat rule is(but I don't fixate on anti-feminism so much either), so in the spirit of asking dumb questions... lemme have it. ELi5. Oh, and excuse my lack of opening rant on how dumb it is. Pretend I made one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 10:51 PM
-2

omg, so edgy. Upvote from me. Because you know what? At this point it doesn't matter what I say. I've already lost. I've said something nice about TRP that I've appreciated from having read it extensively that your circlejerk crowd will never let go unanswered, even if they have no answer. After all, calling TRP inconsistent serves as an important basis of their circlejerk, no matter how much they struggle to justify it. Its the Pavlovian trigger that supplies the lube. They're not gonna let it …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 09:59 PM
2

It's fucking inconsistent, it's fucking wrong, how can you defend it? You have already set the trap where if I offer any interpretation of AWALT, then that's my opinion which only I think is correct and this is inconsistent with RP because you are obviously so much more well-read with it than I am and so you must be right. The gist of why I disagree with you remains the same though; that's just not what AWALT means. But then there is no way to correct you without falling into your trap where the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 09:10 PM
3

Wow, it sounds like RP is actually not a bible, but is simply an internally consistant set of ideas whose hundreds of thousands of net unique adherents come away with millions of net unique perspectives off it. Or conversely, it sounds like you're debating the non-RP side...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 09:02 PM
0

while the other is a bit more of a broader claim. "Yourself" is a pretty narrow word.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 08:59 PM
2

Not really. Women are shorter than men is fine. The reason that the ALL is added is because of this catchphrase of BP trolls(you might recognize it): "BUT NOT ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT..." To that we can say two things: "We didn't mean all women literally. Cmon now. Your absolute interpretations are a derailing argument and nothing more. What you're basically saying is if just one person can demonstrate that the absolute interpretation they created is false, then the original statement becomes wro…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 08:53 PM
-1

Reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 08:46 PM
0

a similar reaction takes place when RPers are generalized like that too. lol, nah. it really doesn't. Basically, generalizations are only ok for your biases?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 08:43 PM
0

But 'yourself' is a very finite term and fixed term. How am I supposed to know that by "yourself", you mean a non-myself version of myself? And, how do you explain 'find someone who likes you for who are"? Checkmate, atheists . You guys are so confusing and inconsistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 08:40 PM
0

my tits are calm. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2ri0pn/why_do_you_think_women_disdain_low_status_men/cngdpu0
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 07:48 PM
-2

Wherein BP demonstrates they have not read RP and still want to debate RP. You know one of the most fundamental rules of debate is both sides actually have got to read the subject matter. I cannot believe for the life of me OP has read Rollo Tomassi or dalrock or anyone at all concerning this topic before coming to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 07:00 PM
2

Different societies and cultures have different sets of incentives and disincentives guiding behaviour. The underlying individual instincts remain the same though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:46 PM
1

TRPers have no use for analyzing the behaviors of 3rd world women. They're like that too. Their culture suppresses those courses of action. That society has a different set of incentives and disincentives guiding behaviour. The instincts remain the same though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:45 PM
4

yet another rant where you complain things are wrong, and then continue to rant off about a strawman. well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:40 PM
5

So much this. They rationalize long explanations all day about how we'd have to be very shallow not to see the meanings behind 'be yourself' and then turn around and take shit like "women are... X " to literal absolutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:36 PM
4

because they participate just for show, believing themselves extraordinarily generous for maintaining simple civil tone. moreover, they're likely to explode into righteous indignation at the drop of a hat, to the point you have a BPer announcing their exit with a "I was just trolling!" every day. But mostly, encouraging their participation leads to TBP links. See, they feel the need to bring in massive brigades for validation every time they lose an argument. Or when they need a laugh track for …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 11:21 PM
6

Reading this, I couldn't help but think this person works on adhom and will contribute nothing useful. And I was right. Remind me... Where did he say that woman consciously think all these ugly undesirable thoughts and especially in such ugly undesirable ways?(You'd think a RP EC would mind the sidebar. Read the one on powertalk.) Where did he even say this theory absolutely applies to all woman and all men... whereby your anecdote makes any sort of cogent argument against it? And what does it b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 09:22 PM
3

For clarification to anyone curious, I deleted the reply because it was duplicate. I did not troll this troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 09:14 PM
4

">https://www.reddit.com/r/niceguys/comments/2rbprj/a_collection_of_nice_guys_from_the_now_defunct/ Are you fucking serious? Or did you link the wrong thread? ... this is the biggest collection of relabelling I've ever seen. It basically goes like this; "Guy claiming to be 'nice'? BUT WAIT ***POLITCALLY INCORRECT OPINIONS!*** That's totally why he cant get laid!" And almost all of these indictments being the most fuckign braindead bullshit I have ever heard of in my life. Featuring such doozies …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 09:01 PM
2

A bitter guy who talks about [...] who? Where did this bitter guy come from? Who's discussing him? you know you're kinda proving my point, right? As it is, we were discussing disdain for low-status men. what i pointed out was how OP implies women carry around a radar capable of sniffing out the bitterness and misogyny in said men even before they've hardly exchanged 2 words(which undoubtably is often the case). all in an effort that maligns and dehumanizes and relabels until everything feels nic…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 08:04 PM
-1

As always, an excellent point. I'd add though that the reaction is partly this, and when so, almost instinctual. Not malice. Its just a barely noticed mechanism of discomfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 07:43 PM
6

da fuck is wrong with you... That is literally all you said The entirety of your argument: 1) "you want to pretend it's the first to justify righteous anger. It doesn't sound so righteous if you're a misogynist asshole complaining about a lack of attention." 2) "yes, this whole brietbart crowd and self-declared MGTOWs are misogynist assholes." And your proposed solution: 3) These people's opinions that they post on their own segregated unwelcoming forums away from my eyes and without the slighte…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 06:31 PM
3

Do women go out of their way to put up "no low status men" bumper stickers, or go around in packs terrorising "low-status men"? Nope. They just won't date men they aren't attracted to. Just like men. The sexodus crowd rants about how awful modern women are and how sorry they'll be, and it turns out modern women aren't fans of this "movement". Gee, who'd have thought. Listen to me for one fucking second. There is no sexodus "Movement". The vast majority, 99% even, are doing it just because its no…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 06:24 PM
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Another stereotypically blue answer Rebrand Rebrand Rebrand Until everything feels nice again. "Low-status men are despised by my favourite group? Hoddlewash! They deserved it! It wasn't the low-status thing... they were being... ahem... Creepy... Bitter... Vitreolic... Misogynistic..." Same thing with nice guys... "they weren't nice guys they were.... Nice Guys."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 06:08 PM
0

Wow, you found a post where you tied for 2nd highest? and only got gold? You're so oppressed in this circlejerk of ours. The third, fourth highest are such meagre consolations.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 05:55 PM
0

not gonna lie. first time upvoting you. they kinda are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 09:43 PM
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From the article "Woman: The Most Responsible Teenager In The House", in TRP sidebar explicit hyperbole. do you really believe RPS is serious? he and other ecs contradict that article all the time. its explicitly hyperbole. mostly for meant for driving away as much of TRP's 8 million unique visitors monthly as possible. but even if you insist, i'll give you dolts but not seeing the words "cold" and "calculating" still. From TRP "Antibiotic Nuke" not seeing the words "cold" and "calculating" "dol…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 09:41 PM
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Marry: MrSamsa, I don't think anyone debates as well as him or has as much patience da fuck. lol. guy is certainly "patient", but he only debates via attrition. I don't think I've ever seen him win a debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 09:06 PM
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I have some bad news about your self awareness. but that's literally not what he said? i have some bad news about your... general awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:57 PM
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yep, everyone except you sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:56 PM
2

Men wouldn't follow social scripts as we know them if there was nothing like women or family for them to support and gain. That's the gist of TRP says. Not my personal idea so I don't get into detail on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:54 PM
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Well that's just ridiculous and doesn't really make any sense. because he said it in a stupid way. i can make gravity or a round earthsound stupid too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:45 PM
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Congratulations, you're going the route of TBP: stretching something to absurdity to disprove it. Men wouldn't follow social scripts as we know them if there was nothing like women or family for them to support and win. That's what TRP says.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:44 PM
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all sex involves a degree a sub/dom. and a lot of it explicitly does.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:42 PM
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But then why would they watch porn of her if they didn't want her? Do video games change your mindset to violence? And war? What about movies? or books? Why porn then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:41 PM
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correlation (infidelity/divorce rates). Pretty strong correlation tho
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:39 PM
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I don't know of that specific study but one of the study guys posted something worth reading a while ago, about women seeming to grow worse partners over the Cock carousel.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:38 PM
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? He literally wrote that answer before you askedd.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 07:44 PM
-1

sigh. i wish we had a rp mod too :(
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:52 PM
1

reported
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:50 PM
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It would also be a very diplomatic and favourable marriage. A mod power couple. You would like me. I'm a perfect beta bux that doesn't mind alimony. i thought you were the red mod.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:44 PM
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I would fuck, marry and kill you. All 3. Full disclosure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:41 PM
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where is the word "cold" and "calculating" used to describe women in TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:11 PM
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You literally asserted not one reply ago that you've never met person with both X and Y qualities and thus that's an argument for why X and Y qualities are mutually exclusive. cmon, cuittler, we nominated you the bp mod because we thought you were smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:09 PM
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this is kinda lame pretty typ. BP reasoning. why are they mutually exclusive? and where the fuck does RP imply women are "cold" and "calculating" "dolts".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 06:07 PM
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tone doesnt carry over text. im not mad i just mean to say hamstering is exactly illustrative in this instance, in a way I can justify, of hwo your argument is wrong and what thought-process constructed it. also, i was naive like you once. i thought this was a debate too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 12:25 AM
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you are beyond redeeming. you demonstrate ably you have never read redpill except by third party aka tbp.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 05:46 PM
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not really
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 05:44 PM
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You guys are impossibly idealistic. I'll leave you to it. I'm tired of this convo, I give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 05:42 PM
1

nope. most men outpay women in taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 05:40 PM
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Hamstering as relevant in PUA is used to identify thought-trains where they can be used to oyur advantage. Reinforcing some rationalizations in target, preventing them from engaging in others. I actually dont mean it as an insult, but as a way to illustrate a point; that you're skewing your own conclusions. you're just using the word hamstering as a tool to your own hamstering. e.g. disqualifying my opinion with an insult. a good way to define whats rationalizing and whats reasoning what isn't i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 05:34 PM
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In a way, what is attractive does change. For example, if all men decided that the highest status would be conferred by wearing... say a fake wig of white hair on your head, with an overly frilly and colourful suit. Then the guys wearing that would be the most attractive by default. Though I see your point, attraction is to status, something that the clothes accentuate... not the clothes themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 05:25 PM
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Women are inherently valuable to society. They cannot be leeches. Also, no lol, women get more benefits, i'm pretty sure. I was just supporting the point made by drok. That they contribute less taxes and make up a greater total of welfare population.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 11:28 PM
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Its pickup artist lingo. It stands for the concept of rationalization. Hamstering is just the slang because of the image of a hamsterwheel... doing a lot of work but going nowhere. The entire purpose being to calm the hamster down and keep him happy with his situation. As an example of a type of rationalization, you hit a bad decision, but you justify it by drawing a bulls-eye around it, thus making yourself feel better about it. In your example, you basically rationalize the judgment you want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 10:56 PM
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But how much exactly? Like a quarter of the total?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 10:28 PM
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I'm in Japan, buddy. They do not. Herbivores are MGTOW functionally. As in, they opt out. The similarity ends there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 09:22 PM
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Men will kill for sex. And die for it. And work all their lives for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 02:38 PM
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The exchange is sex for sex, pleasure for pleasure. Doez the woman not "get sex" as well? The woman gets much more than sex. which is the point. The man usually has to initiate and convince her, and pay for her and then they have sex. It is somethign she gives, as the chooser. Its only the rare approaches of 10s(subjective) that women have one night stands with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 02:33 PM
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Sex is something both people want. But its also something one is paying for and seeking and qualifying for, and the other is giving. It only becomes something that both people want after the man(typically) convinces the woman she wants it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 02:31 PM
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Its also true that none of this constitutes a shift away from the man being de-facto head of household. Doing equal work doesn't make you boss.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 07:00 AM
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african tribes and cultures where the woman does literally almost everything must be matriarchies where the head of the household, right? This is the stupidity and naivety here. circlejerking that if i disagree with you or call your statistical outlier a statistical outlier under extenuiating circumstances i must be doing it out of confirmation bias just makes you look stupider.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 06:58 AM
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Men and women think differently. And approach solving problems differently. Men are oriented towards solutions, and use their efficacy at solutions as a way to prove their value and thus, a way to create relationships. Women are oriented towards relationships, and use the strength of relationships as a way to create solutions. Or not. Relationships are great anyway. This is a well-documented difference by multiple prominent linguists on the ways men and women socialize, cooperate and solve probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 06:48 AM
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I think the difference between you and us is you think like a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 06:45 AM
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The rational male - year 1 heartiste too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 06:40 AM
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I like how you're still being a sarcastic troll. what i said is perfectly valid. as an example, the person who controls income makes the final decision. the person who advises does not. they advise.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 06:23 AM
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its not. its just stupid and wrong. hiding behind idiocy with a 'u mad?' is not making your case. very little in the OP even constitutes a shift away from RPW, let alone to matriarchy. its a common theme to anyone who's native HERE IN SE-ASIA and no one fucking mistakes it for women-led families, or even egalitarian as far as family head is concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 06:21 AM
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Im not a white male. and reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 06:19 AM
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its strange, you guys have the same herd mentality TRPers do. and you hamster pretty fucking hard to justify it. TRP by and large doesnt justify itself to any hater. you guys constantly do. in your sub to yourselves as well as to anyone who treats you like you treat people you disagree with. its an opinion. keep calm and continue doing your sj-warrioring.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 12:56 PM
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well, i didn't say that right now(you're baad at quoting bro). But RPW is basically about that every day. e.g. finding a good man. creating attraction and a good relationship instead of waiting or falling for superficially charming men, etc. taking the red pill means different results for each individual. but the DT assholes, plate spinners and such are something RPW very mindfully and methodically avoid. Lots of recommended reading material there is about mate selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 12:53 PM
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I've taken offence in other replies because everyone's acting like this is how east asian or se asian culture is... when i've lived here for several years and this is the most superficial and idealistic re-interpreting of patriarchal family values i've seen. the men in england become what they do out of a lifetime of scarcity and settling, or acclimitizing to local culture. I assure you asia is still rigidly patriarchal, and i dont even neccessarily support this system but this is kinda rose-tin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 12:47 PM
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nope. tyrants are definitely leaders. they don't necessarily literally force or drag people along, they inspire fear and use that to control and lead. im pretty sure academic studies of dictators and tyrants ascribe to them carefully the title of leader.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 12:44 PM
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to save your goddamned life. and not just in the literal sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 12:42 PM
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ok, me. do it for me. what it would achieve they will tell you. all im asking is you just talk to them and ask them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 05:49 AM
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they will talk to you and explain what it will achieve. promise. do it for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 05:42 AM
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Im guessing that TBP is at once both cringe-worthy and obsessive SJWarrior-ism combined with the misogyny of TRP. That's the argument, its the combination of the worst of both worlds. Pretty much justifies "pathetic" comment if you ask me. It does get a bit disgusting too when you consider the internet bullying and stalking and hate that goes on there. We had a "BP" side user even come on and make a post here callign TBP "bullies" and calling them out for harassing her and making fun of her for …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 05:39 AM
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i really hope you'll listen to me. and take 30 seconds to google your country's child protection services 3 minutes max to find their number and set aside 15 minutes to call them and tell them about yourself. just 20 minutes to do this one thing for me. ok? Just... you have nothing to lose. call them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 05:33 AM
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They have those options when they're rich and successful. Not when they're students or building up their career. Then they're boring. Nerds even. And there's this really stark problem of them being seen as unattractive or effinminate. Women exercise their attractiveness(and asian-ness, lets face it. asian femininity is to men what british accents are to women; fetishized) during youth to date around. During this time they have few intentions of marrying anyone, they simply want experiences. When…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 05:17 AM
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give it up. none of them even come onto PPD with the intention of honest debate or knowing what TRP is. The guy is literally using a circlejerk term from TBP and pretending that he's talking about something legitimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 05:02 AM
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this is a really idealistic interpretation of what goes on, in like half of asian families. expat asian men are effeminate and devoid of options in western countries and are grateful when they get married to anyone. women are experienced and masculine. the power dynamic that results is skewed one way, especially for younger asians. this affects large numbers of men and women but still does not equal women replacing men as the head of the household. check a comment by an actual native east asian …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 04:58 AM
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The single person who actually gets it in this thread. Its absurd the idealistic masturbatory fantasies all these westerners are upvoting themselves about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 04:56 AM
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this is just tBpers voting each other up. no sane native would believe the head of the household is not the man just because she handles most of the household work. fucking ridiculous masturbatory fantasies
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 04:51 AM
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One person advising, one person making the decision based on advisement. Having the ear of the person in charge, or have delegated authority is not the same as head of the family. This thread is a farce from westerners that don't know shit about east asia. all these absurd caricature oversimplications portraying eastern families as anything other than having patriarchal expectations and values are stupid and idealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 04:45 AM
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That's not being head of the family. that's called being a housewife. delegated authority. hell, most RPW follow that dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 04:43 AM
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It is the nature of women. Especially the kind that insists they're nothing like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 04:41 AM
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Waaaaaaaaay off. hm, not buying it. why dont you do a side-by-side comparison figure. include graphs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 04:34 AM
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you provide a lot? to whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 04:29 AM
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this is the one of most awkward and defensive "ahahaha" posts ive read. calm down man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 03:36 AM
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in what way do you not walk the walk?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 03:20 AM
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"japan is not women-utopia. must be completely free from feminist-outlooks." i let it go last time, on account of you being you, but this is a non-serious line of inquiry that doesn't merit being entertained. The entire premise is that the only effect of feminism is that women entered the workforce, which is not a fucking effect of feminism, nor the one any men except your strawmen take issue with. so you are taking the last sentence of one of my posts and then ignoring everything else i say. mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 03:18 AM
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you slept in the same bed... just... slept together? that's almost sweet, AFC. edit; no pun intended. im being genuine. its kinda nice to see a little of the TRP methodology be shunned. because we choose to. i think that's the important difference. no desperation. just genuinely emotionally rewarding experiences with women, even if not sexually the best. im not the best looking guy. and ive never made someone so fucking happy with one kiss before. it wasn't love, i think we both knew that. its j…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 02:38 AM
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in my experience, the reason most japanese men do not date or pursue women is they don't see the benefits to it. They don't like the demands made of them in marriage, they don't find women's attitudes to their wants appealing, they dislike the idea of a long, arduous career where they only get emotionally hurt at home, they see the entire exercise to be 'take, take, take' where the only reward is an orgasm and not even love. meanwhile, hypergamy is percieved to demand that men have homes, jobs, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 02:36 AM
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they are. the one on new years seemed like she wanted a kiss at the countdown and i like women being adorable like that so i wanted her to feel special so we had a great one. but yeah, i guess i never really saw them sexually. i never pursued them even though i think they've given me hints("think" because im still not sure. pretty hard to call concretely call them IOIs). the girl i kissed was my co-worker btw. we danced too. she's a 4 at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 01:54 AM
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who cares? In the context of this sub's topic, TRP thought dislikes feminist, not female, influence on society. And even that because it tends to be anti-men, disingenuous, entitled, misguided or it turns the sexes on each other or makes impossible a structured sexual market(especially in terms of equal benefits for playing for men). TRP response to feminist influence is simply leaving the rules of the market aside and playing for personal gain. Which isn't a TRP thing even. You can find the gro…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 01:33 AM
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on the benefits of not being a literal child whore. if you dont understand, call for gods sake. and stop thanking me for my concern as if its a fucking gesundheit. Call them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 11:24 PM
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they won't make you take one. they can't replace one forced life with another. they work on basis of 'best interest of child' which factors in your preferences("to be happy") as far as the child protective services can make possible. and stores are closed? what? you just have to hear them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 11:18 PM
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ok, type out a long reply for me. why wont you call the helpline?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 05:42 PM
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its a common arrangement. i thoguht i'd tell you why its a bad idea. ok. answer me this: are you trolling me?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 05:39 PM
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... ://////////////////////////////////////////////// Is that whats important to you? You're a 16 year old prostitute... whose only concern is she doesn't want to sound like it? Well, you know what, being a prostitute... the impression I got or how you can adjust really doesnt matter. Any way you talk defacto is how a prostitute talks. Fix it by calling that help line. 17 soon law does not care.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 05:37 PM
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what the fuck? I honestly dont know how to reply anymore. look, 17b29a, forget im RP. forget this sub. i realize i dont know all the details or know you... but there are honestly very very... very few ways these variables come together where you are safe. There is no good reason to stay even if you are. In the extremely unlikely event you are safe, you should still call that helpline. let them explain it to you. call. that. helpline. jesus christ. Do you get a sugar daddy or something? Just answ…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 05:29 PM
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Either you are joking about the whole thing or you are wrong. If you are an active prostitute at 16, there is no third option. Just try giving them a call. for gods sake
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 05:23 PM
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A little unsubtle, but I feel it captures the unsaid thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 05:15 PM
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Nah, i have lots of friends that are like 3s or 4s . kinda sexually invisible though. i kissed one on new years if that counts
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 05:13 PM
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it's fine, i'm not in any harm or anything, thx for the concern though! Are you joking? Do you know the amount of things that could go wrong? ................... :/ im not qualified to write this stuff.Please call that helpline. seriously, even if you have a pimp or handler, do not trust them for shit. They has every reason in the world to fuck you over now that he's associated with the CRIME of enabling you, and they've already exploited you so far, even if it was your idea. Thousands of girls …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 05:09 PM
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why would it be criminal not to want to take care of a child and wtf would i report him for lol. I don't live in the US anyway, I live in Europe. It is more criminal in europe than the US. I editted the comment again. Read it again. report it to a child services helpline. there should be one in your area. if not, call the closest one in the EU and leave them to coordinate how to help you on their own. just hear them out and listen to what they say is the proper course of action and why. they can…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 04:53 PM
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my child as in the blood relation, not the age thing I meant you. As in, you are implying you prostitute "safely". hence the need for safety -__- What are your safeties then?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 04:50 PM
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why not? i'm p sure he did You. Can. Report. Him. What he did is criminal. And get your self to government child protection(google it) to get you out of your situation. I actually yelled over to my co-worker for you. He says that children don't face charges or any permanent record of any sort for prostitution in the US. They're kept confidential and anonymized in fact. often the only thing is rehabilitation(which is just therapist + given adoptive family, school + expenses). Responsibility falls…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 04:37 PM
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I'd say it's fine if you do it safely wtf... how does a literal "child" prostitute safely? this is some sick joke you're pulling. you have no idea the kind of shit that could happen. somebody could literally shank you to keep you from telling anyone they were your client. literally. stab. you. and hide your body. They could export you out-of-country because you're abandoned(as you said) and already a liability to them to be a sex-slave.. the list is endless.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 04:28 PM
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and why are my parents responsible if they kicked me out i thought that would void your guardianship or sth since obvs you can't look after them they can't kick you out. ಠ_ಠ wat am i reading?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 04:26 PM
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Its a legal term. God, prostitutes are dumb these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 04:22 PM
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meh its not a big d eal, my parents dont care anyway not sure why they would be responsible .... that is EXACTLY why they would be responsible. you are a minor for fucks sake. ok, how long have you been doing this? Why do you always sound so much like a prostitute at 16? And shouldn't it be a bigger deal to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 04:21 PM
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On the one hand, i'm in japan so i can't say that's unbelievable. but ive never talked to one before... ... do you know its immensely illegal? There is a minimum legal age for prostitution and 16 is not it. Anywhere. Every single one of your clients is liable to a jail sentence. You are also going to get your parents/guardians in a fuckload of trouble. And this is going to follow you for the rest of your life, unlike ordinary sex workers, because you are going to be charged with something far mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 04:15 PM
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wtf you're a 16 year old prostitute? You did say you were 16 and a virgin elsewhere right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 03:59 PM
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There used to be a guy here who enjoyed seducing and banging man hating feminists, and women who thought PUA/TRP, MRA, (all that man'o'sphere stuff) was garbage and misogynistic etc, and he said they were easier to fuck with those same methods and thought processes than typical women. Redpillschool himself claimed that. he bangs/ed feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 03:12 PM
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What redditinga said. If you can't play well, be cheesy instead. Just be a showman. Unique social experiences where you're being really forward and confident and risk-taking are still great spectacles for women to experience.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/15 03:26 AM
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Why not? TRP is a tool for opportunists. It doesn't strive for great justice in the world. If I can identify an effective way to predict relationship trouble, then in the context of "sexual strategy is amoral", my objective should be 1) "hide this undesirable quality in myself" and 2) "find out whether these undesirable qualities exist in my partner". Oh wait, that's like half of dating. Give it up, few care if they deserve the rewards of life. If they deserve wealth, or if they deserve the love…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 11:53 PM
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lol, here comes the BP majority vote brigade. They won't argue with the evidence. they'll just downvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 08:25 PM
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TRP is a set of ideas on the workings of the sexual marketplace. What you mean is that TRPers (individual readers) judge. As well they should. Whats the point of having a map if you're not allowed to use it to decide what places are bad or good to go?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 04:13 PM
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Oh my god, I am advancing the sexual "double standard"? Jesus Christ how horrifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 04:10 PM
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ctrl + f "bad". 3 out of 8 results: /u/l_____o_____l (remaining five results not relevant, to this discussion or even by accidentally making your point) That said, even the word "bad" is actually not inherently a moral statement. Check this sentence: "A hammer is a bad choice of tool to tighten a nut." Again: "A cripple is a bad choice of employee for construction worker." Same deal. Or less harsh example maybe if you prefer: "A candidate with a history of fickleness is a bad choice of employee"…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 04:07 PM
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It doesn't speak to the persons quality as a human being. Who is talking about that ? We are discussing quality as LTR partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 03:45 PM
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OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 02:37 PM
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The correlation between prior partners and divorces disappears when you control for the other factors BPers look for in a relationship (i.e. communication, emotional stability, equality) Show us.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 02:21 PM
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ctrl+ f "horrible fucking sluts" 1 out of 1 results: /u/l_____o_____l And learn what a moral position is. You are embarrassing yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 02:20 PM
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Yeah, but in the context of TRP does not approach the idea of a person's worth unless we consider who is doing the valuing and for what. If we say worth or value, the context of who is doing the valuing and for what matters. It does not default to "total cumalative value of person".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 02:12 PM
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THE SAME STATISTICS SHOW THE NUMBER OF MEN'S PREVIOUS PARTNERS IS CORRELATED WITH DIVORCE PROBABILITY TOO. Male sluts are more likely to divorce. 1) Stop yelling. 2) Show me. Might be interesting. When this was being discussed a few months ago, the whole BP/RP crowd went in search of men's statistics too. Very little was found that had reliable sample sizes or was well-funded. And the material available painted a picture of "could be either way". On the other hand, women's promiscuity was well-r…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 02:10 PM
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This is insulting to Men and women. So no RP ideas about sluts PISS ME OFF. Not only because it is anti males but because it female as well. Also RP focus on P count to the exclusion of other factors. Other than "it pisses you off", "it is insulting" or it is "anti-male/female", what is your reasoning to say it is wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 12:57 AM
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And this hypothetical amazon sounds like she needs a man to fuck her into sobbing compliance. did i mention i love you, sh1v? someone should troll these guys more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 11:22 PM
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Whisper nailed it so fucking well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 10:54 PM
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"worth the risk" Why would a sub about sexual strategy that very clearly defines its idea of value on its sidebar ever confuse you on what we mean by "worth"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 10:54 PM
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"worth the risk" Why would a sub about sexual strategy that very clearly defines its idea of value on its sidebar ever confuse you on what we mean by "worth"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 10:53 PM
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Honestly. This is the norm for humanity for almost all of history. And even today most of the world follows this aversion. Its just that its trendy now in the west to completely ignore a person's sexual history. And even not all of the west does it. Its just trendy to say it and people keep insisting its true. Fat acceptance may not have won. But because slut-acceptance is easier to market("double standards"), its passed through for some reason. Just to be clear, the idea that sluts make worse p…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 10:50 PM
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but why should i concern myself with fixing shit? how exactly do you think one should "fix" this at all? and why assume these people want to be fixed. They are poor prospects. fin. Move on. Much better fish in the sea to take as a life partner than jaded sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 10:46 PM
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This. Perfection is hard to defend, and it makes you hard to resist targeting. Why bother with the effort? Never appear too perfect. When I was back in India, I used to work at a call center as a part-time thing besides college. I was 22 at the time. My supervisor there was a 19 year old, who made a salary almost 8 times what the rest of us did, simply because he had made himself essential to the business. He made sales himself, closed our difficult leads, dealt with all the companies we were su…
/r/TheRedPill30/12/14 10:36 PM
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To you. As a woman. No, a healthy sex drive probably does not resemble any strong preoccupation with sex. To men, it is par the course.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 09:05 PM
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I remember that discussion and i remember BP rebutting most of those claims. show me. Also even if that is true, it still doesn't prove whether or not it is social or biological in nature. Who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 09:03 PM
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Yeah, I'm not that dumb man. Guy had some acne, teeth issues and slouched. That's it. Wardrobe, hair was shit too but that we had done easy. Most of the "hope" we got him actually wasn't TRP. He actually got more depressed when I told him the requirements of good game. Enough of your PUA garbage. Life is all about BEING BORN A SLAYER. Likewise to your genetic destiny garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 09:01 PM
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"There is a drive that most men have, to varying degrees, that addicts us to sex, to the pursuit of sex and beautiful women. Its called a healthy sex drive. Why pathologize a very basic human desire as addiction?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 08:18 PM
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Because calling yourself MGTOW is easy. Actually doing the stuff is hard. STORY TIME: A little less than a year ago, a guy at my work who was a really good, very considerate guy had an episode of uncontrollable tears in office. Really a striking thing to see a grown man cry like that. Wouldn't even tell us why. Became inconsolable. Boss, wanting to calm him down, offered him to lie down and come drinking at the end of the day and talk(he's usually quiet when we do this). He refused, wanted to le…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 08:07 PM
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Here you go by someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 07:34 PM
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but its wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 07:33 PM
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Self-improvement is an aspect of sexual strategy. Consider your cold-approach of choice. How many times would that work without a modicum of SMV? Or consider the TRP endorsed examples on making OKC profiles. Almost all of them were of buff, groomed, well-dressed dudes with lots of interests. Or dread. How exactly does one pull other women or make a soft-harem without SMV? Even the basis for confidence... in TRP, that's your own achievements.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 07:26 PM
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why does mgtow (mentioned in the sidebar frequently) have any place there? I've always interpreted as an equivalent of "My strategy for conflict is not to engage in conflict". The problem is MGTOW still don't belong on TRP, IMHO. Cause this group is full of fucks who don't actually choose to be anything. They're lazy incels who label themselves MGTOW in an exercise of rationalization. MGTOW are usually supposed to be guys who've been in the market, and who usually still spin plates, the only dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 07:09 PM
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Good calll on giving the OP opportunity to preserve thread. I've seen lots of threads with really good answers just buried cause the title wasn't neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 07:08 PM
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Exactly. Its wise. You're probably getting raped or used for sex and discarded and other stuff less following AMALT and every woman knows it. Its stupid to not assume AMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 07:05 PM
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Well, absent God or spirituality, I'd protest that your body is 'designed'. Functionally. Dude. Functionally. Defacto that is what all its adaptations are aimed at. Saying, "I want the happiness of having children" is a positive personal value that I can immediately see relates to happiness. Saying, "not wanting to end my genetic legacy" suggests that it is not about personal happiness and more about the importance of unbroken lineage, gene transmission, and somewhat, to me, implies that genetic…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 01:37 PM
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Who the fuck thinks all people are anything? You simply become careful and do not naively assign benefit of doubt. This is the equivalent of AWALT. If you do not agree, you simply have literally not read the dozens of stickies and EC clarifications of AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 01:36 PM
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Diagnosis rates are controlled for. Women attempt less risky and more irrational means of suicide, if the intention is to die. Most suicide attempts by women are simply a call for help. A woman will more likely just overdose on pills in a fit of anguish. She'll cut her wrists instead of cutting at her legs. Stuff like that. The man will more likely premeditate. And end up doing things like hanging himself. Or throwing himself off a bridge/roof or firearms or using a dedicated poison.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 01:35 PM
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In my experience, BPers take the BP even when shown the stats. You'll never change your mind on this. You'll never even give legitimacy to experiences that convince you otherwise. BPers will never believe anything that puts women in an unflattering light unless it is truly and universally unanimously pounded into their brains. And even then they'll work tirelessly to make it more flattering to women. Or try to redefine it into something they can feel good about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 01:17 PM
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The whole slut shaming thing on RP part is fucking stupid. It was common sense less than two decades ago extending back thousands of years for most of humanity. The current trend of women stealing the podium and saying this aspect of history shouldn't matter is a fad by definition. The research backs up the sense behind not committing to sluts not almost... but completely unanimously.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 12:57 PM
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holy crap
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 12:49 PM
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Argubly, absent God and spiritualism, this isn't some objective purpose in life either. It is as much a purpose as, "Have fun", or "Climb the tallest mountain" or "become famous so that people will remember me for years later". Nope, its the purpose for which your body is designed. Almost every part of you fits into the puzzle if we assume the purpose was to survive, and eventually reproduce. All your life, your emotions constantly guide you to that end. Pain tells you you're failing. Happiness …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 12:18 AM
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What a beautiful answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 11:59 PM
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It is an unbroken line of creatures doing successfully what they were built to do... that extends back billions of years. I'm not going to break it. Absent of god and spiritualism, there can be no other purpose to life. I was passed the torch in this absurd race to nowhere, and goddamn it, I'm going to pass it on. With some graffiti from me. And besides, can you imagine if Mitochondrial Eve or MRCA Adam decided that fucking wasn't worth it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 11:31 PM
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Assuming every man is a rapist is sheer idiocy And yet women de-facto do. If not in words, near enough in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 11:30 PM
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Nope, that's a pedant, man. If you were in a relationship and didn't care about her in any way than that would be abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 09:13 PM
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also the detriment of women's feels, as plating is abusive by nature as women are wired to want exclusive relationships (which i think even red pill admits). Not neccessarily, but meh, as a general rule, given. i expect a truly experimental group to be open and debate encouraging, not restricted and hive-mind-y. It is not a truly experimental group tho. As the name implies, the red pill sub exists for red pilling newbies, and helping them self-actualize.. i.e. even the name implies this: they ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 08:39 PM
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Don't want my genetic legacy to end. So yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 07:28 PM
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if it was full of a variety of offensive and ever evolving ideas it would at least be more interesting than the one note offensiveness it currently has. As someone who's been with manosphere and RP ideas and forums a while this is inherently wrong. For one, you are looking at one single forum. The fact is TRP represents a single purpose, and keeps itself focused on that, to the detriment of new people's feels. If you want change of perspective or want something mroe in line with your own views, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 07:26 PM
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Good illustration of this law in conjunction with "Never Outshine the Master".
/r/TheRedPill29/12/14 07:09 PM
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The problem I have with the RP is it is all theory supported by someone else's anecdote, or some research paper that is reinterpreted to fit RP theory. Not really. Also, RP talks a lot of stuff. I wouldn't know what to give you if you just tell me to give you a references for third party that supports sales or marketing. Same with RP. be specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 04:36 PM
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The people who most often look down on someone who says that life is not fair are the ones who are on the benefiting side of the unfairness. Either that or those who suppress their desire for things to be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 03:24 PM
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I know its not exactly my place to interject, but I just find value in oldmanwho's reply to this post and wanted to add my non-existent weight behind it. Well, not-non-existant because de-facto in at least that on getting my orange-red you might read it and it might not remain buried.
/r/TheRedPill29/12/14 03:16 PM
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likewise
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 05:43 AM
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Controversial is a relative term. And this is very stupid logic. Any law can be said to be abused to its adjacent offences, but rules by their nature are well defined. Concern trolling rules specify a very specific and type of discourse. And its something that nobody really misses. If you think it prevents opposing viewpoints from appearing on TRP, than you already know I'm willing to put evidence where your mouth is. I can link plenty of stuff from today and yesterday that shoots the theory dow…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 04:44 AM
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I'd explain, but I doubt you'd be prepared to take anything on board. This reasoning doesn't stop people from talking to you. Something to think about. And in any case, its long established no one on PPD changes their minds on anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 12:16 AM
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You should work on being more coherent. As it is, I have no idea what your point is. The world is bigger than subreddits. RPers absolutely respect the hegemony of non-RP ideas and do not seek to change the world in any way. RP is a completely personal philosophy. And ironically to your "point" btw: Concern trolling is actually a very feminist concept. The lot of you might very well be defending its use if it were us asking you to be careful with your big angry wangry thoughts as if you were chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 12:08 AM
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Well put, and insightful take in your second paragraph. But I think my wording(ESL, sorry) wrongly gave the impression we disagree. I simply think its a good example of the mirror effect on TRP's part. Feminism uses these tactics, and relied on them. Credit where credit is due: they arguably developed, popularized and honed them. Manosphere mirroring of these in order to disallow those same feminists to infest our space is an IMO a good example of law 44. They can't really argue against our rule…
/r/TheRedPill28/12/14 11:11 PM
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Like i thought. And I disagree there too. RP is never highly upvoted except where the subject material highly interests RP. /r/TRP doesn't like this sub in large part because we can't ever say the most controversial stuff here, and not be censored automatically. Any opinion expressed in here must incorporate blue to an extent or be swarmed by a passive-aggressive vote-brigade. In comparison, RP are used to seeing and tolerating non-RP opinions. That's the whole world. The only BP thing you could…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 10:44 PM
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I feel like the RP sub itself does this a lot. Our policies on tone-policing, concern-trolling and our refusal to be shamed, or have our message tempered or are all tactics we have borrowed from feminism. I'm not even kidding. These same tactics have infuriated feminists to no ends.
/r/TheRedPill28/12/14 10:30 PM
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It's an uncivil blanket insult aimed at a very neutral opinion with the intention of communicating nothing except snark at the opposite debating side and obtain BP-majority approval(as I pointed out in this reply). Plus, it sounds like a copy-paste from TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 09:33 PM
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There are no sources. there are differences that imply it, but those implications are hushed. I could say the fact that there is a "minister for women" in western nations to be laughable and humiliating fact for a non-minority. That half a population still needs its representatives forced into office. And needs every aspect of its lives coddled and pretends its independent and capable. That by and large, women do not innovate(they hold ~5% of patents), create companies or businesses or ideas, or…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 09:32 PM
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That was not my point, my pointlink was that you can't say stuff like that in academia. You will not get publsihed(most probable, and discourages any non-PC ideas being tested)/lose your job. Psychology is really liberal biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 09:13 PM
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sigh. ok, you know what? lets do this. i hate snark and lets see if i bother answering, it'll change anything. lets see if you have one iota of intellectual honesty in you. front page ppd today: https://imgur.com/6bSOWRD In order: 1) top 6 replies BP, one of them even indescribably retarded where he complains he has to know TRP to debate TRP 2) RP EC archwinger manages to tie for top, but next 8 replies represent BP. reply to archwinger outvotes him 3) Current thread, top 2 replies BP, reply to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 09:01 PM
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Which is AWALT. Men de-facto pedastalize women, even when they feel they don't. They fall prey to the "women are wonderful" effect. (edit: wiki link) In their eyes, a woman is always a unique snowflake. Meanwhile, men to women are no such thing. Its this
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 08:46 PM
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The president of harvard cannot suggest that women are less likely to be geniuses than men and keep his job. Even though its true. I don't hunt for sources because proving this doesn't interest me but there's no one going to be investigate anything like women being inferior at anything without being lynched. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_psychology#Controversies' Examples abound though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 08:40 PM
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Women attempt less risky and more irrational means of suicide, if the intention is to die. Most suicide attempts by women are simply a call for help. A woman will more likely just overdose on pills in a fit of anguish. She'll cut her wrists instead of cutting at her legs. Stuff like that. The man will more likely premeditate. And end up doing things like hanging himself. Or throwing himself off a bridge/roof or using a dedicated poison.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 08:18 PM
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I explained why I found his situation sympathetic, and why I felt overtly blaming the victim for what happened is counterproductive (i.e. they already know how their state at the time contributed to the situation.) I didn't cast any aspersions on the OP's moral character while I was doing so, and didn't say that's what she would have said if she was in that situation. I actually put enough faith in the RPers who post here as human beings to assume that most of them wouldn't react negatively to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 08:12 PM
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Meh, I notice the exact opposite. Also, can you even communicate without using sarcasm? I mean, is that how you talk naturally?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 08:04 PM
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Or most western countries not very many decades ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:53 PM
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Women are mentally weaker though. They are far more likely to suffer depression, or be scarred by an incident, to impair their decision making due to their emotional state, etc. And arguably get emotional sooner too, and stay that way longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:50 PM
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Reported for circlejerking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:48 PM
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Nope. He's perfectly right. Whisper also wrote a post about this recently and managed to nail a pattern down. http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2q51i9/why_ppd_while_sometimes_diverting_is_ultimately/ I wrote why above as well. Why the two sides are not the same. If you're gonna just go "no u" when criticized, then you're proving his point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:46 PM
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TBP 2.0 though you have a reputation for pretending it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:22 PM
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Growing up it was all "you girls need to stay in groups, don't wander off by yourself, don't talk to strangers, don't leave my sight, always keep an eye out for danger, always have your cellphone in case you're in trouble, always cover your drink and don't let it out of your sight, always keep at least half a tank of gas in case you get lost and raped (literally) annnnnd take this pepper spray because someone might rape you." Besides the last three, what parent doesn't tell their child this? The…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:20 PM
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As a RPer, I've often hung out/lurk/comment in RP. I don't actually upvote everything there though most of it is RP. I upvote the stuff that's good. This habit naturally arises. Almost everyone here RP is here from having spent time in the environment of TRP. Which is non-competitive since everyone agrees on basic premises, just discussion on how to develop that viewpoint. You hardly vote unless you like it. Furthermore, almost everyone who has ever talked about RP outside of /r/theredpill has l…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:13 PM
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Same to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:59 PM
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One of the things men get called bitter about is that when they don't want to get married. Even if bitterness does in fact colour our view, you should show how my view is skewed and attack the criticisms of marriage(cost/benefit, the unique draws of marriage, the unique drawbacks, etc) rather than say "you're just bitter". I recently saw a reddit downvote party where a person was called bitter by a reddit crowd for saying basically that he dumped a girl for being a slut and that he didnt like th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:15 PM
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Exactly. Now you understand why we have nothing but contempt for the BP style of debate. They always think of it as somethiing to be won. A competition of sorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:08 PM
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You can blame someone for being stupid, and still have sympathy for their hurt. A child makes a mistake and gets hurt. A good parent scolds them and teaches them but also sympathizes and helps to try to ease emotional and physical pain. There's no point in going 'hey, maybe you shouldn't have gotten drunk and gone out to get coke with strangers,' because if he's lying in a pool of his own blood with no money he already knows that. I swear, you guys make me want to facepalm so hard when you prese…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:10 PM
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Red pill 101 about how women conduct argument and debate. This isn't me discrediting you. This is a straightup confession of your sophistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:04 PM
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You're not going to get representative answers. The BP crowd here has majority. They'll upvote things that they agree with or supports their point at will, even if its blatantly wrong. Most men on hearing this story would call the guy a fucking idiot. "I was just following these strangers for some coke"? Gimme a break. I made a thread on this a while back, lemme quote: There is absolutely nothing wrong with victim blaming. This is a concept that the media has confused and perverted. Common sense…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 02:49 PM
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the movement which gave half the population the vote and equal rights that wasn't feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 02:29 PM
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Control is different from expression. People cry about a myraid of issues, the narrative is controlled by the more organized party though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 02:27 PM
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Are there places where cat ladies get together to go on about how they don't need no men and rant non-stop about men -- self-avowed radfems/lesbians aside? lol, please. Its the everyday world. Ask any of us in Asia. Ask anyone except your white-girl suburban gated community. Hell it exists there too. Women are just more diplomatic in the way they express it. The feelings are just as if not more bitter. And when its not about singledom(which it often is), its about all the ways men/patriarchy is …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 02:24 PM
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"By pointing out your lack of social acceptability I can win this debate." - BPer
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 02:21 PM
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You are literally ignoring the mechanism of how things work to laugh and say that soomeone is upset things work that way. Even if they are or not. "People are killing my family" - RPer "Sounds so bitter. Try being less mad, entitled shitlord. DID YOU SAY SOME PC-PROTECTED GROUP IS KILLING YOUR FAMILY? Fucking Misogyn/rac-ist. By pointing out your lack of social acceptability I can win this debate." - BPer Does this intentionally egregious and blatant example illustrate what you are doing better?…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 02:20 PM
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"But so do men" The most wonderfully common excuse of why not to discuss what women do exclusively. The AMALT warnings all women know. They are the unsaid rules and methods of the dating market to which there is unanimous approval from both men and women. And tacit expectation those AMALT warnings must be proven wrong by each and every male through his behaviour. The AWALT warnings hardly any men do. To even think they exist is misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 02:13 PM
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The thing is, women can afford to because they are passive. Men's role is active. Women can no longer be passive when men are passive too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 02:03 PM
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Where are you? I'm an Indian living in Japan. And I genuinely think my willingness to break taboos and approach anyway for casual flirting, etc, definitely makes women like me more. You don't completely become obnoxious with her(as I said before).... and begin with sexual undertones. You can start with civil confident conversation. I actually do consider that flirting. As long as you're getting friendly with her. There is very few places in the world besides some muslim/hindu communities where e…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 02:02 PM
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The entire train of thought on alpha/beta spanning your first 4 paragraphs could have been avoided with a quick visit to the PPD or TRP glossary and ctrl+f alpha/beta. Or a reddit search on TRP. Long story short, you actually arrived at ~the right conclusion about what it is. which is impressive actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 12:01 AM
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Its because women control the social narrative. While men do more important things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 11:57 PM
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wide*
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 11:39 PM
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Women don't believe in their own agency. Even now that they have it, they seem to be in a mass state of belief. And outrage that agency comes with repercussions too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 11:30 PM
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I work in marketting, and i believe that when you're the seller who's doing more to engage the prospects, you're going to be doing a lot better than sellers who are just waiting for things to happen on their own, or who are more passive, even if you're vastly more obnoxious. And if you can scale down or hone the obnoxiousness(which is often just a symptom of being impatient about your bottom line/not cognizant of theirs), you can pretty much dominate. I refuse to entertain the possibility that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 11:26 PM
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A bunch of bitter men exiting the "sexual market place", feeling smug about witholding their penises from women who don't want to fuck them anyways and shouting, "Ha! Gotcha, sluts!" Oh cmon now. That is just blatant characterization. There's simply less marriage and stuff, and less men who think highly of romance, or the costs involved with having a woman, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 11:20 PM
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you said my replies were stupid. Verbatim. The first of your criticisms. The one about picking what should be attractive based on what you rationally decide is beneficial for your children, is legitimately stupid. Nothing more needs to be said. Or deserves to be said. It displays a fundamental lack of understanding what evolution is. Instincts for what is attractive proliferate when a trait is beneficial enough that the individuals who prefer them(directly or indirectly) manage to propagate more…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 08:57 PM
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Tone is irrelevant. We discussed the subject matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 07:44 PM
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Just a small nitpick Pseudo-scientific means falsely scientific. To say something is pseudo-scientific, the subject matter in question must claim to be scientific. TRP does not claim to be science. What it does have though, is supporting evidence from third-party sources which it uses as a discussion point, and which TRP members reference in debate with outsiders. It has next to nothing to do with the theory. If you have issues with these third-party studies though, you should know that to say t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 07:42 PM
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Sigh. The self-improvement aspect of TRP results from the model of the sexual marketplace that it depicts. i.e. it paints the map, and this map tells people how to play. All the bits and pieces fit together. and we make informed focused decisions into self-improvement that match our goals. The part you are seeing as user insecurities is just our vision of reality. i.e. you don't like our map, our vision of reality. Which is OK, because we don't like yours. As an example, TRP happens to say sluts…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 07:28 PM
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I love how eating/driving is not considered "risk taking". It actually is, and is refered to as such under descriptions of nutrition or road safety(and pregnancy is for health as well) but it is no conscious individual choice to expose themselves to risk. Most pregnancy just results from sex, and that is as far as most women consciously made the choice. Sex. And a small minority of the time, it wasn't even that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 05:44 PM
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Yall seem pretty mad. It's not called the anger phase for nothing. :/ Where does anger phase even come in? We're talking about this thread and this question. about the terribleness of women Why does it always have to come back to someone necessarily making character or moral judgments? Is that the be-all end-all purpose of any discussion? This seems to be a consistant pattern in conversation with you guys. Maybe you guys are so used to doing that, that you're reflexively on guard when you percie…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 05:28 PM
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Do you know how you do that? By also being an inexperienced and young virgin. lol. You people are annoying sometimes. I assure you its mutual. And what is the point again? She let boy x do something she no longer wants to do anymore so boy now is mad about it? The point is not being mad. Its not outrage. Its simply noticing what changes, with a focus on determining whether or not the incentive/disincentive scale has in fact, not been tipped by difference in attraction. Women hate any aspect of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 04:06 PM
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what is it about facials that men love so much? Enthusiasm. Love. Domination. A feeling of inspiring dirty, slutty, desperate behaviour for oneself. Satisfaction in leaving her properly "wrecked", with aftereffects of your presence(even if just to signal other males). Facialing is especially more attractive with an innocent looking girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 03:15 PM
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The key is in understanding the change. And whether it relates to one very pertinent factor that you people are just plain denying even happens: Difference in attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 03:14 PM
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No, I regard you as a human being, not a mythical fairy. Thus, you are subject to human impulses, incentives and disincentives and nothing you say will change that. Strawmanning it into you necessarily being the extreme of that ("a hypergamous slut" as you imagine the term) just shows how much this is true. Even now, you are objectively hamstering(putting in a rational judgment of behaviour into hypothetical scenarios to create a moral character for yourself. And then being laughably incredulous…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 03:07 PM
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No. That is not it at all. This is some stupid coping mechanism you guys employ where you invent a strawman to make yourselves exempt from the implied question. I'll even demonstrate how much she has not even understood the question: She says: And no, I would not let Ryan Gosling put it in my butt either. ergo, she is literally using the rule's given exception to show why the rule should not be applied. BPers honestly make me facepalm sometimes. You guys are so used to your circlejerk, you upvot…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 02:58 PM
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Not a single honest answer in the thread. BP people are self-confirming idealistic morons who basically live on benefit of doubt and exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 02:54 PM
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So do women. arguably women are far more restless with just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 02:50 PM
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Interesting how that was powerful for you. Cause I actually try to do plate-spinning. And I'll be honest, I get shut down a lot, even when its going well, and its often not that easy. What was striking was the paradigm shift suggested by blondie123; see, I can think of 7 different women I know very well who could accomplish what I try to, on demand, with comparatively no effort whatsoever. That thought is what was powerful. Her having a bunch of men willing to fuck her is not as amazing to her a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 02:42 PM
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that has more to do with exotic populations that don't belong in the environment and chances are they were introduced by humans. humans are a very new thing. This type of extinction isn't new though. Dinosaurs did it to each other all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 07:30 AM
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and an orbiter can be fucked at any time, so for the most part an orbiter can be considered a plate. Jesus christ, this is a powerful thing to think about. The difference in amount of effort required is palpable. This statement should be used to help people visualize what the pill says in regards to difference in sexual power. Men capable of this are rockstars. Women capable of this are ordinary.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 06:55 AM
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I think millions of men would be jumping over each other to be "plates", in the sense we use the term.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 06:53 AM
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I know western readers probably don't pay attention to the histories of Asia and its states, but this theme of becoming civilized/pacifist/isolationist/complacent and being conquered by more warlike, persistently violent groups is a well-established repeating pattern. Technology and wealth difference often be damned.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 06:49 AM
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if the patriarchy was real, none of this would be true. men have always been disposable. men have always been the subject of jokes if they were not manly enough. RP is socially unskilled way for the weak to thrive, and it lacks any morals or gain for anyone but the individual thus anyone would reviled it. Masculinity being seen as evil I'll give you, but still patriarchy does not control specific beliefs and fads
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 06:45 AM
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Nature has given you all the instincts and all the tools. And social skills are honed, not inherited. You just have to try.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 06:42 AM
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a third of the people in power would be women anyway If men and women were the same, IQ aside. Male geniuses will still take more risks, take more initiative, have more focused passions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 06:38 AM
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Good one. I laughed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 12:25 AM
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Same as top answer, but also attempts an explanation of mechanism. Upvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 12:16 AM
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Men obviously had the upper hand there and obtained power. And for 10,000 years of recorded history, uniformly kept it. If you were to "reset" things but maintained the framework of modern society (where physical strength is less of a requirement to be a leader) I'd imagine things would be quite different in terms of makeup of our leaders. Patriarchy and roles between men and women helped enabled societies to function, survive and thrive. Remove technology and all forms of male social-domination…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 11:40 PM
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that is only opinion and invalid. But it is. People don't estimate themselves and what they would do in hypothetical situations very well. For example, I once wrote a story here of when I was mugged at knife point. tl;dr I was pretty young and just straight up told the mugger "No", kept my mobile and my money and kept walking. He didn't follow me or do anything at all. Being a stupid young kid, I did that cause thought I could take him. When in reality, he just let me go because the mugger wasn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 11:29 PM
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because they didn't like it and are comfortable enough with you to think they shouldn't have to. IMO, this is the closest most genuinely given answer to the question of "why" you've given so far. As a learning exercise, I'd encourage RP guys to interpret this assuming this is natural power-talk. All sorts of possibilities come out my previous SO never asked or showed any desire for me to do them. Then its completely irrelevant to the question. Which is "refusing". If we're getting this pedantic,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 11:08 PM
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No one is suggesting that you make her do it because she wants to keep you around(though if you want bjs, go for it). We're suggesting that knowledge of why she is unwilling with person A, and willing with B is something that can give you better insight into what to do for your relationships health and whether or not you want to pursue it. Its a very reasonable question which you deserve to know the answer of, so you can make better decisions of who you spend your time with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 11:02 PM
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Of course its that easy. Which is why the popular advice is usually end the relationship, or maintain until useful. "Situations and minds change all the time" is a state very unique to the sexual fluidity of women and their changing priorities/realities. I'm sure no malice is involved when women rationalize but it does follow from causitive factors. Very pertinent factors that you are completely refusing to even consider are indicated. Prominent among them is attraction to the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 10:55 PM
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Is plates being low quality women a common opinion? Genuine question for BP. I mean, I'm sure none of you consider yourself low-quality/insecure/needy/etc and you must have had a few short relationships in your life. Or even long ones where you had sex once or twice (or regularly) but no real commitments to each other
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 10:48 PM
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Maybe maybe maybe. Why should anyone deal with maybes? Your first two maybes are also extremely unlikely and actually serve to make the impression worse. Depending on the maybe. Which you can never really know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 10:45 PM
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have high partner counts, i.e. are lower quality. Slut-shaming?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 09:45 PM
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only nurturance strikes me as beta(providership, see sidebar). jealousy, dominance and prowess are par for the course as alpha(leadership). RP holds that LTR is contingent on beta traits. You can only control for so long. Frames always shift.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 09:43 PM
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You provide the subreddit with some very interesting conversation pieces Curious here. Example?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 09:41 PM
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and all of that is biased to your views. are you immune from self bias, delusion? And you are? there is a reason our civilization is grounded in the scientific method and not anecdotes or myths or untestable theories. Not really. Most things are very hard to test, and are still based on human value judgments, pragmatism and anecdotal experience passed down through the ages via cultural norms and beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 09:40 PM
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work out 5-6 times a week I keep hearing this from some other people, but my trainer always tells me that a break is not only helpful, but if you skip "healing periods" you end up making your workout bit pointless and actually lose gains. Is doing more than 3-4 times a week not detrimental?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 09:32 PM
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"Honey, am i fat?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 09:26 PM
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I think everyone with a high SMV that don't pay attention to how its sustained and what priorities they might want to hit in the future hits a wall when they realize their window of achieving them doesn't last forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 09:25 PM
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and they are negative traits" Lemme give you an example of how this is mostly your bias. TRP idolizes Dark triads. Most of them are quite immoral people. RP doesn't really care. This obsession with morals comes entirely from you. I've seen countless occasions where the same qualities (machiavellianism, manipulation, power-talk) are openly admired and envied.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 07:36 PM
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she's studying you. not debating you. its very common to be asked about what childhood trauma made you like "this". "this" being very random moral flaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 05:10 AM
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Can't deny the science. I'm on my phone and I'll read the studies later but if they make the points you claim they do, point made. I still say within the sexual domain, where women are especially incentivized to be more socially/sexually aware, they well outcompete any man for hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 05:00 AM
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Because it's used over and over again to literally mean that all women are a certain way. Let's try an exercise in common sense. All women have vaginas. All women are solipsistic(all humans are). All women hamster(all humans do). All women are hypergamous(all humans do). These are obviously true. OK? (inb4 "there are women vaginas removed/with penises") Let's try another three. All women will divorce rape you. All women will cheat on you. All women are children. These are obviously not true. So …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 04:34 AM
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dont feed the trolls, man. this will never end. by all evidence, taibo doesn't regard you as anything more than insane. Normally i wouldn't mind, but it manifests in annoying ways. They will never admit they are wrong about anything, not even with 10 people explaining it to them concretely in a million different ways with proof. simply because it comes from RP, and RP is composed of the insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 04:11 AM
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reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 04:06 AM
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you are being as nonsensical as ever, taibo. you're not even internally consistant this time. not only are you assuming things out of thin air, you're makign my confessions for me and then theorizing by yourself. either you're compulsively hamstering because the RP gives you cognitive dissonance or you do not realize how you're leaping from conclusion to conclusion until you're literally making things up and introducing impossible scenarios for RP to fulfill for them to disprove your hypothesise…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 03:55 AM
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You're assuming i inform them of anything personal, like my real address. let alone my lifestory.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 03:48 AM
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When you call someone "used up" because they've had sex, then yeah, that sounds like a moral value judgement. FTFY. And we have reasoning often-explained as to why. RP's audience enjoys that sort of thing. so what? A lot of those people are looking to get back into the game after hurt/getting knocked out for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 03:43 AM
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I'm talking to you right now from within Japan. let me just assure you that my experience of meeting these clueless people varies frm you. I am sure the quantity of losers does not differ much in the US. Its just economic and cultural factors that colours the uniquely stark expression of it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 03:09 AM
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i think a survey would settle it though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 03:07 AM
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why would a quality male or female lower their standards for a scumbag (male or female)? if only we knew? women with such low self esteem You are inventing characters now. Give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 03:05 AM
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yeah, they choose to debase themselves just like red pillers debase themselves by hooking up with the kind of women who have such low self esteem that they let themselves be used. This is an exercise in hamstering. I'm not just saying that. You have absolutely no way of knowing what type of women this is used on except tens of thousands of descriptions and this is what you choose to convince your self of. it's a situation of masochists and sadists abusing each other. how do masochists abuse? red…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 03:04 AM
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The thing is, caring about inclusion with the herd didn't get enforced. you can't enforce something so uniformly. humans didn't make this system. this sense of wanting to cooperate is inherent. feeling. we learn it. we're punished by it when we misbehave. our bodies know that we should cooperate with the group. it takes a lot of disillusionment to let that instinct go, or let yourself believe its ok. i'm not surprised so many people are having a hard time swallowing the pill
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 02:54 AM
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Not every society had documented marriages. hah, no. but iirc its pretty damn close
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 02:49 AM
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no woman with self esteem is going to want anything to do with a guy with a history of plating women. In your naive opinion*. You're preaching as if you've been there, when you've seen nothing but the map. There is no radar of personal history attached to women's vaginas. This is not a world where people make deep personality judgments on everyone they meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 02:45 AM
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what is wrong about plates? are these women off their leash that they can't choose to be plates with all the facts before them? They make their own minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 02:41 AM
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A value judgement is not a moral judgment. An employee can be significantly more appealing to a hiring company if he has a good history. for example, if he manages to hold onto jobs. there is no moral judgment inovlved though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 02:39 AM
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TRP would drone on and on about how a how a woman's sexual past is morally relevant and how them making sexually dubious decisions reflects poorly on them morally, what the fucking fuck? Are we discussing the same rp? I have seen a million times the distinction hammered in that she may do as she likes, but that TRP stance is that we think she is no longer wife-material by our standards of preference. And then we are perplexed our qualifications matter to you and count as slut-shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 02:34 AM
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AWALT isn't used to say "Be careful, you never know who can hurt you", it's used to say "Look at the shit this stupid/slutty bitch said/did[2] or all girls like rough sex[3] ! All women, dude!" Why are those things mutually exclusive? Why are those posts impossible for you guys to see as examples illustrating that the warning is true in places you don't expect it to be? Why can't you entertain the notion that there are portions of TRP that are just understood by us? People who've been talking to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 02:15 AM
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only a retard would think this. Take it from someone who's been here since a while, and on reddit before TRP, the conversation on sex and love has gone through enormous changes post-RP... i.e. the things you say are obvious now were the mainstream boogeyman just a year or so ago. The BP crowd pretends nowadays that these things are obvious when we have archived threads where they deny all the various things you assume are taken for granted. If they're representative of their normal crowd, then y…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 01:46 AM
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But AWALT is functionally just a warning. For prudence. You have an 18,000 sub strong watching us, and people combing the posting histories of ECs as far back as a year or more for outrage porn. You have never found the dozens of explanations of AWALT? Redpillschool alone made like 5. You still pretend it means exactly what you say it does. You mods need to change your glossary too. Its only your version in the imaginations of women and whiteknights looking to be offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 01:26 AM
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Its par the course for all controversial opinions. this is why I sent the message to you guys asking for a survey. BP outnumber red now IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 12:45 AM
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Emotional abuse is often subtle and takes time to really manifest itself. From my understanding, you guys always insist you would see anyone using TRP tactics a mile off? And I am damn sure this is a near unanimous opinion(or at least singularly and consistantly upvoted on every relevant occasion).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 11:38 PM
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HOw is what you are saying relevant at all to what I said? Who is talking about any gender? I'm seriously confused by the stuff you guys say sometimes. Its so seriously said but so nonsensical. and yes, everyone is atleast a little bit DT.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 11:36 PM
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TRP as a theory is amoral: If I described the mating behaviours of penguins, and my descriptions of some penguins seemed worse than other penguins to humans with extremely ingrained biases about morals... would that mean I have made moral judgments? If I started a forum where humans who are going to play with penguins read my ideas, and those humans got bad impressions of certain penguins. And resolve not to associate with those penguins for self-interest, would any of this mean I, TRP, have mad…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 11:23 PM
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This opinion assumes TRPers represent a majority of men. Thus, it doesn't really even answer the question. It just makes an attempt to seem edgy by calling people genetic failures(as if that means anything before the game is done) and just you know, hate RP. But even still, you're mistaken. they'd have been alphas from the beginning No. They would have tried to nurture alpha traits from the beginning.* It is one thing to run distance. It is another to consciously and deliberately practice it(edi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 10:53 PM
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given that the theory itself isn't even internally consistent. In what way? In my experiences, these kinds of criticisms generally don't hold water outside of your (self-professed) circlejerk. Why don't you specify and ask for an answer? example in point: i saw this "refutation" in BP recently. EDIT: Very nice vote brigade, BP. you guys are passive-aggressive nuts in the way you pretend votes make your utterly ridiculous claims/criticisms/biases right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 10:34 PM
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reported for circlejerking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 07:09 PM
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You know, I really appreciate your open-mindedness. Male or female, thanks for bringing an air of civility. I'm saying this to you because I was told to and it sounded reasonable, and I thought i should start... but I just didn't find anyone worth saying it to yet. Moving on, make that topic. TRP by its nature is a very toxic thing. It is for opportunists. And we recognize how bad for society it would be if all the men being screwed over adopted our mindset and just checked out of the game. So t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 06:08 PM
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Please read the OP here. It nailed you to a T: http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2q51i9/why_ppd_while_sometimes_diverting_is_ultimately/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 05:58 PM
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Exactly. You can't defend your ideas worth a damn. You just think putting any rubbish into the comment box is an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 05:55 PM
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She did not. Her replies are absolutely idiotic. Take the one from this comment chain: You're arguing because its logically more advantageous to like smart guys, that's what should happen. That's not this shit works. It. is. Stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 05:37 PM
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In 2006, I got into jail for this. Here's the story: a crazy drunk woman came at me with a broken bottle. Because she was drunk, and I was drunk and we argued and I managed to get people laughing at her. I avoided 3 swings. After that I literally put my heavy winter boot into her face. There were witnesses who definitely agreed she swung in earnest and meant to stab me, but authorities agreed that I wasn't injured and she was and there were 2-3 people who completely made up the fact that she was…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 05:15 PM
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Why don't you help me understand? When you say that phrase, why don't you prove I'm wrong. Via reasoning. Looking at the paper. Citing me/relevant person the error in his conclusion. Showing honesty in where the results are accurate. Changing your view and evolving the conversation honestly. The Red Pill from 2007 to 2012 is not the same. From 2012 to 2013 it changed. It is a completely different beast and keeps introducing new ideas. We're more open-minded than you think. but we don't respond t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 04:51 PM
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Nothing changes the fact that conversation with you is useless when one side is presenting evidence when asked for it, and the other simply saying the equivalent of "You don't know how to read that! don't gimme that! Put that away!" i.e. you guys don't submit counter-evidence, you rely completely on invalidating the opposing evidence by saying "you didn't read that, never mind I cannot for the life of me demonstrate how". And its often in the form of trolls like you, who don't even try to say wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 04:36 PM
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right back at ya
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 04:23 PM
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besides being naturally dark triad, you guys are jumping the gun on what pill he was. this is a discussion between newbies and blues.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 02:21 PM
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ya fuck off
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 12:50 PM
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i can't be nice. it encourages them to stay. they're operating on pseudo-historical caricatures that apply uniformly to women without any evidence... hell, with tons of contradicting evidence... and presenting that to me as a point. their premises are beyond helping. women, to them, had no agency. ever. they lived and live in perpetual victimhood. they never had desire for children. no lifestyle or culture, or place in society(hell, even the term 'place' offends them if it ever applies to their …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 11:08 AM
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go fuck yourself brigader. i don't expect sense to come out from a circlejerk crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 10:59 AM
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I just want to say debate week is a resounding success. And I would like to thank the mods. However, now can we have a purge week?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 12:09 PM
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Be good at using her hamster against you. As long as she doesn't manage to blame you, divorce is not a threat. I'm employed in a position where I negotiate. I sell things, and people. I consider myself good in my job. I'm very good at making people view situations differently. Develop this skill and flirt with other women at will Btw, dread is using other women. Not just ignoring and shit. That's called a freeze-out
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 10:58 AM
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Oh yes, men "lived" while their wives survived. Your argument, besides being a caricature victim-fantasy, breaks down by your second sentence. Most evidence suggests that women "lived" in multiple senses of the word more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 10:56 AM
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My understanding is that the women were unapologetically slaves to the husbands. And husbands were apologetically and diplomatically slaves to their wives. Difference in ego only.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 10:54 AM
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lmao I love you, sh1v
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 10:21 AM
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I will write him a prescription for two red pills. Taken daily. Until symptoms subside. Change should build on itself from there. Keep me updated.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 10:18 AM
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Could you give some examples of AMALT? Because I disagree with that as well. I have never assumed all men to be anything. I like to give individual people a chance first, and I expect them to do the same for me. Yeah, I've heard women say "all men are pigs", and variations of that, but I strongly disagree. Even if it's common for men to exhibit certain negative traits, I'm not going to look at an individual male and automatically assume things like, "He's probably an abusive cheater, I better ke…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 11:06 PM
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I would be bothered by it regardless, not because of the beliefs but because of all the hate. Believe us, the hate is noticed and reviled by ourselves as well. But its cathartic. In our minds, we are in an anonymous space. We are where we vent. Its done here so it will not be done elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 08:51 PM
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I generally only read TRP stuff that is linked to from TBP. There's your problem. I find when I was new to RP the lens of TRP's commentary on articles of love or what random people online made me really unobjective about what was actually said and meant. I think TBP is at least 5 times dumber than TRP when it comes to interpreting things. Make your own judgments. Understand from the context of those writing. No one will detect you in the feminist/redpill space if that's what you want to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 08:48 PM
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because all the horrible things they say about women must necessarily apply to me because AWALT. Here is a RP EC explaining AWALT. I think he raises a good point with how women assume the equivalent of AWALT themselves when dating... they just have the sense not to say it outloud. And their "AMALT" includes not just manipulative or repulsive(e.g. "creepy") traits but downright criminal behaviours.... if you were a guy would this attitude of AMALT similarly upset you? Most guys are fine with it. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 08:42 PM
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fine. I laughed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 08:32 PM
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You mean a brothel for women where the women's SO watches? We need a few decades more of social engineering for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 05:17 PM
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Either you do not know how to scroll or you simply believe yourself more informed on RP's ideas of alpha/beta than me. Both ways, you are wrong in the assumption that I did not contribute meaningfully to OP's very stupid questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 05:14 PM
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? Show me where I did that. No, really. Put up or shut up. also how is "women are various people with multiple likes and dislikes" a circlejerk? It is a well-known low-effort sardonic statement of the obvious serving as an invitation for another BPer to jump in with "NO way" "WOmen are people too?" and circlejerk away. It is a circlejerk in every sense of the term, not just for its recognizability as a TBP and /r/circlejerk starting point, but because its a breakdown from civility where instead …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 03:25 AM
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Ostensibly, but I haven't seen a single one that didn't go along the lines of: "Blah blah blah, and then we had lots of sex" "OOOHH! SO RED PILL!" are you serious? What the hell is asktrp to you? What are all the failures under the FR tag. The only reason you see those is because they're upvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 02:50 AM
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Its almost like this isn't your circlejerk sub. Reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 02:29 AM
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In this case, a lack of social quality happens to be a romantic quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 02:28 AM
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ITT someone who doesn't know the definition of cult. Who categorizes any group separate from theirs as a cult. The word cult is almost synonymous with "Ad-hominem" attack by this point. Sexual attraction for men is not affected by a woman's acheivements in the same way it is for a man. That is a de-facto universal truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 02:14 AM
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excuse me? I explained my position in depth. The initial response was also extremely relevant as well if you can get past your bias and consider for a single moment your question is stupid as fuck and seems so to anyone informed past the basics(which I can understand most BPers aren't). And that there are people who are literally rolling your eyes at you with very good reason. There is such a thing as a stupid question. That's when the question is both stupid and disingenuous. Circlejerking and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 02:02 AM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2pw76h/q_a_on_basic_trp_premise_everyone_welcome_to/cn0y1zs
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 01:54 AM
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The question premises are flawed and loaded beyond sense. Where you can't answer without confirming for OP something stupid. Alpha, beta are supposedly two of the "four types of people"... :/ rather than alpha and beta being two self-contained and very specific categories of behaviours within relationships that have been deemed relevant for deliberate study and practice. Alpha and beta do not refer to persons. And they are in no way mutually exclusive. In fact, there is no way a pure alpha could…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 01:53 AM
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The opinions of TRP have already been summarized. Just because you make idiotic loaded questions and I refuse to entertain you, does not mean I don't know what to say. In fact, I think calling you kids trolls was precisely the thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 12:56 AM
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BDSM as a whole, is an over-done and thus, poor replica of the real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 07:40 PM
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>Basic TRP Premise ಠ_ಠ seriously, what the fuck, guys? At least read TRP. Why do you have to extend things to absurdities in order to bear a resemblance to a reasonable argument? Its like you're a bad politician talking to us as a crazy person making this absurdly over-exaggerated and condescending attempt to "understand". Fuck you. I refuse to acknowledge your condescension and speak on a normal footing to you. "Only 4 types of people" my ass. You are a TBP troll and I will treat you as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 07:32 PM
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♂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 07:30 PM
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Why is it always assumed that not wanting to wife whores is a sign of insecurity? If I am a serial monogamist, does not wasting time on me say something about the insecurity of a girl? If I have herpes, does that make a woman insecure about not wanting to be with me? What about mental problems? What about emotional problems? What about if I am an attention whore, a very impulsive person, and an insufferable flirt? What if I have a little peppering of each? Now? The research is unanimous: A woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 07:23 PM
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Maybe he did ask. Maybe it was the fact that he was lied to and now he had evidence. Did you think about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 07:14 PM
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TL;DR: The brother is a shitty person. Brother is a hero. The dark knight. The one it needs, but not the one it wants right now. This whole story had me genuinely lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 07:13 PM
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Imagine how much truth you'd have to hit to make someone disillusioned with their fiance. Amit probably already had these thoughts. He already had these feelings of being used, of being unhappy, of feeling undesired and feeling like his girlfriend was too much for him, especially her past being something that made him feel like he couldn't fit into her life. We have no information about what Nikki's actual behaviour to her fiance was. Perhaps she was terrible and her behaviour was in fact what c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 07:11 PM
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Imagine how much truth you'd have to hit to make someone disillusioned with their fiance. Amit probably already had these thoughts. He already had these feelings of being used, of being unhappy, of feeling undesired and feeling like his girlfriend was too much for him, especially her past being something that made him feel like he couldn't fit into her life. We have no information about what Nikki's actual behaviour to her fiance was. Perhaps she was terrible and her behaviour was in fact what c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 07:11 PM
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Whole story is hilarious. As an indian, I say the brother was a hero. Imagine how much truth you'd have to hit to make someone disillusioned with their fiance. Amit probably already had these thoughts. He already had these feelings of being used, of being unhappy, of feeling undesired and feeling like his girlfriend was too much for him, especially her past being something that made him feel like he couldn't fit into her life. We have no information about what Nikki's actual behaviour to her fia…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 07:08 PM
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Wow. Neato about your rating. All my boyfriends tell me I'm totally fugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 06:41 PM
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To this day, one of the reasons why cosplay is utterly dominated by women is because guys generally aren't taught the technical skills involved in sewing and garment design. Like I said, motivation. Women get more attention for being/pretending to be nerdy, women like fashion more because they like attention and are more sexually competitive/aware. etc. They did not start the tradition, or the source material the cosplay is based on, they did not start or organise any of the communities or the e…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 05:32 PM
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I'm gonna chime in here anyway even though I can't find the links. I know I'm going to be downvoted to hell because I didn't save/screenshot the links like a BPer, but take it as you will. There have been quite a few women who went to TwoX and similar subreddits to talk about their rape. Albeit with uncomfortable details. As you mention OP, as rapes go, there are sometimes generalities which you can infer about the perpetrators. OP mentioned two. So anyway, these women were firmly in the camp of…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 04:32 PM
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Make as in create. Not mass produce. Anything can be put to work mass producing things. You might as well say women made dinner for centuries.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 01:12 PM
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I really put myself into my work. I made several decent sales this month. I don't even have an idea of what I'll do with the spare money. I'm thinking charity. I practiced meditation. I still suck. But I can do 20 minutes somewhat normally and 30 if I really stretch my self-control. I made all my gym goals for this month. I flirted with dozens of girls. I attended more social events, especially from work. I treated my coworkers to good food and made a few new friendships. Hopefully, networking p…
/r/TheRedPill20/12/14 11:53 AM
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That is absurd. Nobody does things to show off to women. But they do do things where a mate is the designed reward. A man supporting himself is not poor. He can slack off. A man supporting a woman and two kids is poor. He must work. And prove himself capable of working well before he takes stewardship of a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 11:27 AM
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im not op
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 11:18 AM
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Oh, women are always dealing internally with things we likely cannot comprehend. Or for that matter, they cannot either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 10:28 AM
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Of course not... My entire point is that to a woman, pure economics is not the only thing that incentivizes divorce. It is the opportunity to inflict revenge, to punish. To get justice. To be free. To resolve emotions. This involves things like taking half the property. Getting the children. Destroying his reputation. Re-affirming her own victimization via divorcee support structure. Fighting for alimony. etc. Even the hypergamous desire for wealth isn't about his bank account so much as the fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 10:22 AM
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quote me a rough outline of what you heard. or link ideally.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 05:27 AM
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Women generally don't make things. No motivation. You don't even get as many female nerds. And when you do, its the unskilled nerd. Not the obsessed-with-his-passion-nerd.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 05:24 AM
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I disagree. I think they're terrified of the percieved "misogyny"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 06:30 PM
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but does the same principle apply to guys saying that SMV never declines for men because "look at Hugh Hefner"? Did you meet these people in TBP? Are these guys acquainted with TRP or is this your internal circlejerk's fourth-hand account of TRP? If its a RPer, did they explicitly say this dumbass sentence or did you infer it from their mention of hugh hefner? These are very pertinent questions, I assure you. Because honestly, look around this thread fro a reply calling bpers out for taking thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 06:21 PM
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That's a long term result, jackass. most people, not just women(but especially women), think in terms of short term realities. you might as well as say "people don't do violence because it doesn't get them what they want". where a woman just becomes unhaaaapy... well, that's that. When the dream and feelings are gone, logic doesn't save marriages. she will take the out. even if she suffers for it. she's still incentivized in the short term to fuck her husband over. and collect prizes. and freedo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 06:15 PM
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and again. you might as well be shout you're retarded at this point. you're fucking defeating your point about it not being a big deal and that no body really gives a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 06:13 PM
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Is there science implied in the definition? Pseudoscience is a buzzword for you guys. You can't say something is pseudoscience without attacking the experimental method of something claiming to be science. Doing so is a better example of pseudoscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 06:51 AM
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OK. Its like... are we debating names for RP-adopted slang? Because I swear. It really seems like you guys are debating names all over this thread. You make not a single reasonable point otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 06:45 AM
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Oh, bullshit man. The only evidence you have is a fucking coin manufactured millennia ago... and even that has an explanation. This nonsense is assigning a moral for women and girls to things it really has no evidence for. Its a popsci piece. Writing another two centuries after Cleopatra’s reign, the Roman historian Cassius Dio describes Cleopatra as “a woman of surpassing beauty” who was “brilliant to look upon.” Yet Greek historian Plutarch, writing more than a century earlier than Dio, mainta…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 06:43 AM
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The wall is also a concept in sports, aka, the rookie wall, where a young player's production drops off towards the end of the season, quite severely in fact. What the fuck is wrong with you guys? Its like you haven't even read TRP and are just upvoting your nonsense. The dropoff in SMV is gradual. I think TRM even made a graph of it. The wall is the "realization" that you're no longer first-class hot shit. Its the shift in priorities from AF to BB. Its like you thought you had fuel but you don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 06:38 AM
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k
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 06:32 AM
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All the trends of the world can be disproved with select picks of historical hearsay. In other news, Napoleon was short.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 06:29 AM
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as of writing, You guys are making not a single valid point. You're just participating in a stupid upvotes war because what he's saying gives you some absurd amount of cognitive dissonance. That's as much credit I'll give you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 06:27 AM
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I find it strange no one picked up on the greatest irony in her reply. Basically, you interpret things as hard and fast absolutes in order to pretend they're bullshit. And then very next reply: But I thought it's super easy for all women, even the fat & ugly ones, to get laid anytime they want? Does the bluepill hire idiots in bulk or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 06:24 AM
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makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 06:17 AM
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Bless your heart. how old are you though?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 01:29 AM
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Oh, well, if you heard that... it must be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 01:28 AM
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People enjoy the violence in the play. They however don't want their morals aching by believing its an actual human being hurt. Or want the uneasiness of having dangerous murderers near them with a knife. Etc.Etc.Etc.Etc.Etc. In real life there are complications. But they still enjoyed the story of betrayal and murder and hurt. The experience and impact and poeticness of the murder becomes all the more wonderful if its real and you can stand it. They will continue to emulate the deep urges for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 12:11 AM
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none? I thought you had a boyfriend. i remember a discussion mentioning him at least. i wrote a bit too. can't have been hypothetical...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 12:02 AM
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Schools had to be desegregated by force in the civil rights era, was that a bad thing because it hadn't happened on it's own? you're comparing vastly different things. And yes, ideally it should have happened on its own. and especially for a group with as many voters as women who technically do not even count as a minority. i mean, except in that they are inept. not inept in getting their work done for them though. you know, when i was in australia a year or so back, i snorted tea out my nose la…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 11:44 PM
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your pathetic response for one. Most people with dignity wouldn't have clung to that slight thread of redemption where you claim over the internet you have... experience. Oh, and btw, I have served in the military for over 70 years as captain america. Tell me about your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 11:25 PM
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well, ive been lucky so far. and its not like i switch women every week. there's no point in becoming paranoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 11:18 PM
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i am not him. though i am a reader. and his points are valid to me. and he atleast bothered to make some. you however, don't. you operate on the assumption that you know everything there is to know about militaries and how they are organised and run. And how they should be changed and what they need to change. and to prove it, you're making shitty ad-homs. even if i admit ive never been in a military, that doesn't make you less of an idiot. btw, we do have a military service member in this threa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 10:39 PM
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I wear a condom and fuck non-trashy girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 10:32 PM
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"or a possible partner. " I've said it before, but it is worth repeating: if your past is not my business, then my future isn't yours. If you lie about your N, I will lie about how committed I am to you. If you refuse to tell me your N, I will refuse to tell you if I see a future with you. If you think me caring about your N is a mark of insecurity, I'll also tell you you're insecure when you ask me where our relationship is going. /u/zyk0s
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 10:32 PM
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goatismycopilot's partner count is none of your damn business. Lmao Jesus christ. You guys have no self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 10:28 PM
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Hiding behind a tu-quoque. /u/RedPillWatchTower must have hit a nerve. You know, by comparing it to TRP, you're sending an ironic message just how much you know it matters. Because the RP challenges political correctness. Something that put the prime minister of the UK in the hotseat for years for saying "Calm down, dear" once.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 10:22 PM
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Feminism is a sexual strategy. that's why it does this. take fat acceptance as an example: "you love us... as we are. trust me. You're just brainwashed by culture. Eventually, our children will be considered beautiful. And if you don't, you're a sexist forcing unfair norms on me." Objectification too. I swear, if the women in media were fat/ugly women being exhibitioned like roast pigs, I bet not a single woman would complain about objectification. Women just instinctively feel the pressure of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 10:08 PM
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Also, why do we assume that all races, which clearly developed different features, will like the same features and that any differences are culturally ingrained. I pretty much don't like blondes or white women. They're almost ugly to me. I like dating in my race. I'm not even racist. I say culture only adds a measure of "incentive and disincentive" dynamic, if you will, to the mix of sexual choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 09:51 PM
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And we all know feminism's actively campaigning for maintainence and construction and mechanics and drivers to be women. And we all know that women do all those jobs you listed equally as well as men. (this was sarcasm, btw) A woman doesn't make as good a pilot. A tank crew has very strict physical requirements. So do drill sargeants(plus these need to be commanding and threatening). And medics have them too(Because its never guaranteed that a medic will operate in a safe base. In a lot of wars,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 09:45 PM
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equal pay for equal work. this again? increase women's participation in politics Why is this a good thing? I mean, you're effectively doing it by force otherwise it'd already happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 09:36 PM
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I think that statement whenever its said is profoundly indicative of a very sad fact. The reason you fixate on this obscure corner of reddit so much is all the other great works of feminism don't really get you your needed attention. You need the TRP boogeyman in your lives. You need to feel shamed and relevant as victims. So you invent us as the enemy. We're the terrorists to your PRISM program.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 09:33 PM
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