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| 1 | Fun hypothetical, here are some options you can choose from to fix datingWhat does porn have to do with it? It documents a part of the natural female existence and chads' intimate lives. It's like wanting to ban stand-up comedy so that we don't laugh at them instead of trying to be funny ourselves. Although I think porn can increasingly normalize women's unrealistic expectations of penis size. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/24 10:37 PM |
| 1 | What does everyone believe with regard to "trauma" and male sexual assault?A lot of low key female on male sexual harassment and assault goes unreported and is not acknowledged because men have to take what they can get. If a woman thinks it's sexy to unexpectedly fart on your face, you are either going to have to put up with it (on a date) or lose your one chance at sex. I am not attractive and have been violently groped by women in night venues. As a man your mind goes into a confused state in such a situation. I think that unwanted sexual contact is very bad for bot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/24 07:31 AM |
| 1 | (fixed flair) It's easier for women to get laid, but they're much less likely to be satisfied with the experienceI don't have much to add. I don't agree to fall into the frame of where sex is cheapened or demonized using vulgar expressions like "stick dick (somewhere". There is always much more to sex and sensuality. " I did find it interesting in your post that you don’t seem to particularly like most of the women you have interactions with, and see putting energy into them as an act of service to try and get laid. Do you think the women know you feel this way about them or do they think you’re just plato… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/24 09:08 PM |
| 1 | Debate The importance off social skills is absolutely underrated in modern men.This. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/24 05:31 PM |
| 1 | Penetration is essential to most women's complete sexual satisfaction.Just to avoid any misunderstanding I'm not saying that all or most women have penis envy. Is it still a real thing? 100%. There are scientific articles going back to the 80's still describing it among girls. There are female psychiatrists in the 2020's teaching parents to tell their girls that they don't have "less" equipment which is basically shielding them against penis envy without using the actual name because it's taboo now. A lot of women do not want to have children at all and some just … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/24 09:45 AM |
| 0 | How much control do women really have over the dating market?It's a comparison between desiring absolute safety and power versus wanting to have consistently good results. Many times on the news, forums etc. women are talking about how one incident of domestic violence (Against a woman) is too much. I don't disagree but I also don't see the validity in a society where everyone is brain chipped by the government to prevent every instance of violence. I have seen feminists argue that men should switch on the other side of the street to avoid making women un… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 07:59 PM |
| 4 | Penetration is essential to most women's complete sexual satisfaction.There are surveys to indicate that women prefer large to enormous penises and I'm talking about length not girth. Size is almost always stated as length for a reason. Just like there are few Chads so there are few porn penises. That alone might explain the whole thing. The second thing is that in the 60's and 70's feminists started coping more brazenly with their penis envy and misandry was getting ahead using science babble about penises being stupid and ineffective. Some women do not want to g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 07:32 PM |
| 1 | (fixed flair) It's easier for women to get laid, but they're much less likely to be satisfied with the experienceI'll explain my point differently using personal experience. Back in the MSN Messenger era in the 00's I jestermaxxed my balls off; I gave compliments, drew pictures of girls using a crude mouse and even very recently during the last several years I used to go this chat room where we had a male majority and a few girls. I would sometimes spend an hour creating some hilarious video that reinforced the desirable identities of the people there and the chick also saved those videos that she loved. W… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 07:14 PM |
| 0 | (fixed flair) It's easier for women to get laid, but they're much less likely to be satisfied with the experienceA knock-out punch or whatever is the same regardless of gender, ethnicity, weight, age and most importantly preference. In that sense the body is the same or at least it's unrealistic or ethically problematic to conduct further research to the matter. Sex is not the same thing at all. Your partner is not trying to rape, mug or kill you and it's about mutual benefit and understanding where you can take your time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 03:18 PM |
| 2 | (fixed flair) It's easier for women to get laid, but they're much less likely to be satisfied with the experience"Men can get aroused enough to stick it in a piece of plastic. Men can get aroused around women that they don’t find attractive. A friend of mine got a boner in highschool because a map looked a bit like a female form. Men who fully hate you can still get aroused around you (granted, the ones who have done that in my presence have been mentally ill, but still). There is nothing delicate or intimate about that process." Yes and according to some experimental studies women can get aroused by watch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 08:47 AM |
| -1 | (fixed flair) It's easier for women to get laid, but they're much less likely to be satisfied with the experienceThere is a neutral way of expressing that he does not add to your arousal or even reduces it. You don't have to say 'good' or 'bad' because the guy cannot read your mind. His ex may have wanted him to do things a certain way. Since women have infinite options they keep vetting guys by expecting them to read their minds because it's not sexy if he does not know what she likes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/24 11:13 PM |
| -1 | (fixed flair) It's easier for women to get laid, but they're much less likely to be satisfied with the experienceThere is not necessarily any skill involved in intercourse so I guess what you mean is that if the touching and intimacy prior to the intercourse did not add to your level of arousal you did not want to have intercourse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/24 10:41 PM |
| 3 | (fixed flair) It's easier for women to get laid, but they're much less likely to be satisfied with the experienceI strongly disagree with that comparison. The male body is uniquely sincere; an erection does not lie. A woman can apply some lube and pretend to be aroused but a man cannot. What's more intimate than getting aroused in someone's presence? It is a very delicate process and should be life affirming for the woman. Prostitutes can be more expensive than going to a doctor who went to to university for a dozen years. There is no mutual desire there and there may be contempt. The difference is night a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/24 10:38 PM |
| 1 | (fixed flair) It's easier for women to get laid, but they're much less likely to be satisfied with the experienceThere's a lot more to sexual happiness than getting laid especially in our time. A woman can easily vet men online without revealing any personal details; she can have cybersex, exchange nudes, go on cam with the man and do a number of things before the actual skin to skin contact. You literally "Women have a lot of otpions, but statistically most won't care about and facilitate their pleasure." I think you pulled the statistic out of thin air but your statement can be interpreted as saying that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/24 10:09 PM |
| 4 | (fixed flair) It's easier for women to get laid, but they're much less likely to be satisfied with the experienceThat scenario where the person is using you is basically impossible unless she is a) retarded or b) afraid for her life. Women have the power so she can make him jump through all the hoops she wants. If she cannot open her mouth to voice her preferences then it's on her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/24 09:55 PM |
| 0 | (fixed flair) It's easier for women to get laid, but they're much less likely to be satisfied with the experienceI don't understand how 'foreplay' is not sex. If foreplay is not sex, what is sex? The pelvic thrusts where the member goes in and out the hole until it bursts? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/24 09:54 PM |
| 2 | Some men aren't fit to reproduce or date and it's okay to say thatMost men are fertile so they are fit to reproduce. By your logic we should reinstitute serfdom, slavery or do away with modern medicine. Women should give birth on some filthy floor of a shack with no heating or running water and if she dies then that's on her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/24 06:15 PM |
| 2 | Do you feel like the sexual revolution benefits men more than women?When women are ovulating they are looking for sex with chads or at least their little head is. When they get the sex their brain gets the message that a baby with good genes is on the way even if she is not pregnant. For the same reason a man entering a woman raw feels like a god even after a vasectomy. Commitment is not all that. Women can reproduce on the dole and there are many ways to have money. Women with no men nearing the end of their fertility also reproduce using artificial fertilizati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/24 06:02 PM |
| 1 | Which gender deals with more conflicting expectations and scripts?Well there are men with breast cancer too. It seems that a lot of Ukrainian women are living it up with chads in the west after they ran from the war. I'm from a country where men and only men are still conscripted and the argument usually goes that in war time women will work jobs that men won't be available for but the example of Ukraine suggests that men will be fighting and women will go abroad to go to cafeterias. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 05:52 PM |
| 3 | This entire sub is based on one thing and one thing alone. 90% of men have to put in work to get laid and 90% of women don’t need to do anything other than show up.You ominously typed "arrangement with the surviving men...is how things are meant to be." I have been reading women's message boards for a while and the casual statements about wars having taken care of things in the past are brought up as if genocide might be the solution to our Tinder era. It is callous, useless and inflammatory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 11:18 AM |
| 2 | This entire sub is based on one thing and one thing alone. 90% of men have to put in work to get laid and 90% of women don’t need to do anything other than show up.Your 'ego' is a snide way of saying 'your entire being'. The Greek word for 'ego' originally and still means 'I' or 'me'. It has since taken on a negative connotation in English where it's implied that you are a flawed person if you feel hurt under certain circumstances. Obviously men do risk rejection. If there was certainty, there would be no risk. If you have no living relatives and friends and you get mauled by a bear in the woods, from some callous perspective it does not matter to anyone b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 09:47 AM |
| 0 | This entire sub is based on one thing and one thing alone. 90% of men have to put in work to get laid and 90% of women don’t need to do anything other than show up.This 'sucks at sex' thing does not make sense. Imagine you're freezing outside during the winter in some cold nation and someone agrees to give you warm food and shelter for the whole winter on the condition that you do their laundry every now and then. Now which will you choose? Death or the laundry? Obviously the laundry and as the proprietor of the house you have the power to decide exactly what kind of chores you demand from the tenant. You just have to make sure that they understand the ins… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 09:43 AM |
| 6 | This entire sub is based on one thing and one thing alone. 90% of men have to put in work to get laid and 90% of women don’t need to do anything other than show up.That's a feminist power fantasy. People with no understanding of history who hate men dream about "men were killed in wars...I mean normies and women got to have their chads." It's extremely hateful and conceited. On their next breath they'll start raving about how women were oppressed back in the glory days when undeserving men were rightfully culled by wars with male models wisely spared. It's 2023 and feminists and manginas are still dreaming about genocide as if that's the best we can come u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 09:38 AM |
| – | Is women's sexuality more self-centered than men's?The main difference between men and women talking shit is that women walk the walk. Men may say nasty things every now and then but ultimately homely women get men way above their league by snapping their fingers. To maintain some illusion of feminist integrity women often concentrate on disempowered men saying callous things online instead of the fact that they have male models on call whereas even high tier normie men have pretty much jack. When women say they hate men, it's kind of real...whe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 09:11 AM |
| – | Is women's sexuality more self-centered than men's?Yes there is more to it than anatomical differences like the fact that women consider 80% of men below average; there are not enough porn chads to entertain all women with their perfect hair line, height and elephant trunk. Furthermore most men are scared of sex even though they need it. Almost no man is comfortable being naked after being told all his life that male bodies are utilitarian and not beautiful and that women need therapy after a dick pic. Combine this with the fact that women are l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/23 10:27 PM |
| – | Is women's sexuality more self-centered than men's?The orgasm gap is a result of anatomical differences. Complaining about that is like a man complaining about having to wear a cup in some sport whereas for women it's voluntary. There is American research to indicate that women are three times less likely to dream about receiving oral sex. You are simply reinforcing my point; women don't chase after behaviors (licking pussy) but genetics (looks that make it moist). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/23 09:44 PM |
| 0 | DISCUSSION: Are autistic men just "lazy" when it comes to dating, friendship and employment struggles?As a lonely, non-conventionally attractive man you're going to have to prove yourself more often than not and people will label you with autism because you're not behaving in a way they want. Most autism is bullshit; it's been overdiagnosed tenfold according to many psychiatrists. There is no blood test or genetic test to prove it and according to old studies most autists are literally retarded as in they'll never pass grade school. Yet nowadays every third guy is raving about being autist but t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/23 09:39 PM |
| 2 | What is the evolutionary advantage to having the orgasm gap?Men have nipples. Women have clitorises and other equipment. How do nipples benefit men? They are not useless as they serve to frame the body cosmetically but they are not essential either. Women as a whole do not value their genitals as much as men so the issue is smaller than it may seem though I realize that's up for debate. I'm basing this on discussions I have seen that involve real women. Women might give away their external genitals or the ability to derive genital pleasure for X million … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/23 05:43 PM |
| – | The term ‘Situationship’ is used almost exclusively by women when they are FwB-zoned by a guy above their leagueIn a way every situation is a 'situationship' when there is an imbalance of either power or values. You could say that most 'beta' (non-handsome) guys are in a situationship in the sense that the woman could monkey branch. But as time builds up, life situations and paths narrow, memories are solidified etc. people find it impossible to separate. Situationships are a thing for very young people or perhaps older women who never invested in a relationship with a man close to her own level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/23 12:37 PM |
| 1 | The term ‘Situationship’ is used almost exclusively by women when they are FwB-zoned by a guy above their leagueSmall correction; "psychology" is a department and a field of science. Most people (including the guy in your citation) confuse the instrument with the reality they are trying to explain. It's a small detail but not insignificant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/23 12:13 PM |
| 1 | Is women's sexuality more self-centered than men's?No that's ridiculous. Men don't have a choice; if you prance around hoping to be seen as sexy and cute you will be seen as delusional as a man. You have one assigned task and that is to lust after women like some ugly ogre who provides tillitating experiences for an innocent faery (beauty and the beast dynamic). Men love to please but there is not much they can do unless they have insane gigachad genetics. I can pick a megaphone, get on the market square and scream "I LOVE WOMEN. I WILL LICK YOU… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 11:38 AM |
| -1 | Is women's sexuality more self-centered than men's?They are just average women who don't eat too much. No women on earth pretty much are known for their remarkable body parts (porn women have outies and innies down there) wheras you can tell who the male actor is by his testicles and penis even before you see his face. Just like people can tell Arnold Schwarzenegger, Stallone or Bruce Lee from photos that don't show their face. The men in art are stand-outs. Women have different faces but none of them have special muscle tone or anything; they j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 11:33 AM |
| 0 | Is women's sexuality more self-centered than men's?I'm not sure if the psychology of porn is fully understood. The men who get to appear in porn are very hard to empathize with (read: they have enormous penises with sixpack abs) whereas the women are simply average chicks who control their weight. Porn is a lot like Tinder with the same men taking most of the women. It's much more simple with people describing real life events and their own sentiments regarding people they have personally experienced and all that points to female narcissistic te… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 10:01 PM |
| -1 | Is women's sexuality more self-centered than men's?The point is they have to force you to see their penis because they are otherwise invisible. You can be just as direct as you like; that's also a major point. But you don't have to. Men have a stronger libido for whatever reason but that just means they think about sex more often. It does not mean that men feel fulfilled from simply functioning as a subject who "gets" sex like it's some trophy for good behavior. I would even wonder if men's higher libido is a two-way street which is mediated by … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 09:42 PM |
| 1 | Is women's sexuality more self-centered than men's?Male sexuality I think is both 'internal' and 'external' but when it comes to interactions with women it just happens that women are the arbiters of true sexuality and that's how men are forced to be mostly 'external'. Why do you think unsolicited dick pics happen? It's because men are sick of not being seen. Your last paragraph is kind of the same excuse. "Bro women and men are different...at least when it works in women's favor teehee!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 08:38 PM |
| 2 | Is women's sexuality more self-centered than men's?Low value post. Ask for clarification if you want to have a proper discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 08:36 PM |
| 0 | Is women's sexuality more self-centered than men's?That's a pretty euphemistic description of it yeah. Of course that alone does not make them self-centered...men enjoy that too. The difference is that for women it seems to be mostly about her being the object even when it's supposed to be the man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 08:36 PM |
| 3 | Who cares more about sex?Yep that does not make any sense. The 'being special' stuff does not apply when the chef's name is Chad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 07:53 PM |
| -1 | Who cares more about sex?That's like saying you love animals and then it turns out you kick every animal you see except hamsters. But yeah. You're just as much as an animal lover because after all you only bash in the brains of cats, dogs, mice, birds etc. and there are so many hamsters in the world that you are nice to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 07:45 PM |
| -2 | Fundamentally the Red Pill is a yearning for control.Yes people would like the world to be fair and predictable. Feminists are always moaning about how one female victim of domestic violence is too much and how society is messed up because we don't have brain chips that the government uses to control everyone's actions before they are taken. As long as we don't live in a perfect fantasy world feminism is needed and men are living it up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/23 05:17 PM |
| 0 | Is it the norm for woman to feel threatened by men in social settins in the US?Well sexual assault and rape is not gender specific. Men can get raped and women can rape. It's more the case that in a perfect world rapists (regardless of gender) would not exist. It would also be wonderful if women suddenly started doing all the dangerous jobs, dying in wars that female leaders start as often as men and made people laugh as comedians but it does not seem like that fantasy world is going to be here soon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/23 05:12 PM |
| 1 | Alpha and Chad are just security blankets and when combined with "the Wall" fantastical wish fulfillment of some kind of cosmic justice doled to women; there is no such thingI was being a dick in my response and I'm sorry for that. I still feel like the text was rambling. I certainly had a hard time understanding it. That much is true. But thanks for your response. " The alpha male and Chad security blankets and means vicarious fantasy wish fullfilment of the two main pills are keeping a lot of men from being effective in their romantic lives." I still don't know what this means. When you write "security blankets and means vicarious fantasy" I feel like there's a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/23 09:32 PM |
| 2 | Is it that bad for a virgin to have to practice?I don't know about this whole suck thing. If there is some sort of a universal script of what to do in sex, then it should be publicly available on social media, books or common orally transmitted knowledge. If there is no universal sex script, then you're bound to "suck" according to your looks level, penis size, race, height and of course facial attractiveness which is another way of saying that people are individuals and attractiveness makes a big difference in arousal; women can orgasm from … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/23 10:42 AM |
| – | Is the hope of a relationship more important than the relationship itself?It sounds like you have trouble distinguishing between: -what miserable men settle for -what men prefer My friend from the opening was frustrated with his much older girlfriend cutting off sex and even when they had sex my understanding is that he was scared to bring up his tendencies and preferences. Furthermore you don't seem to be addressing the opening message very much at all. The message was about the relationship of hope and relationships and whether relationships ultimately deprive men o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/23 09:12 AM |
| 2 | If men want societal safety nets, they need to band together and weather the storm to get them."Have preferential hiring" I thought feminists believed that men already have it great in the job market and are in fact hired over women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/23 11:30 AM |
| 1 | Is the hope of a relationship more important than the relationship itself?No I just don't like the saying. What is your point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/23 09:57 AM |
| 4 | Alpha and Chad are just security blankets and when combined with "the Wall" fantastical wish fulfillment of some kind of cosmic justice doled to women; there is no such thingYou write like you're either intoxicated or like a cool kid dropping some big words hoping to fool people into thinking that he knows stuff instead of being mystified by what he sees. Maybe you know things but you are not making your thoughts very comprehensible. If you truly are an expert in X (you did not even mention your supposed profession properly) then maybe try to sound less mysterious and flamboyant because we cannot read your mind and it's not us being stupid but us realizing that a pa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/23 01:02 AM |
| 0 | What can autistic guys do to not make women feel like predators?Coach Red Pill once made a video about how autism does not exist. I don't agree with him and it does exist but it may be overdiagnosed tenfold. Or else we need to forget about the early 20th century label and just look into what exactly is difficult about socializing for people. The labels just make people indolent and passive. When it comes to real mental illnesses like schizophrenia this has been a thing for a while; instead of catering to a block of imagined symptoms based on the title the ex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/23 12:44 AM |
| 1 | Is the hope of a relationship more important than the relationship itself?It's a global phenomenon that's predictable by gender. Women are usually the ones who lose interest in sex the first or set all kinds of rules for when it's appropriate for it to happen. Technically women may have the same issues; there are men who think vaginas are gross but for every man who thinks that there are three women who think male genitals are gross (or have very specific criteria). So it's like trying to find the next rhytmic gymnast champion from a group of young boys; there are boy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/23 12:15 AM |
| 1 | Is the hope of a relationship more important than the relationship itself?Yes some people cannot control their "urges" then rape happens or someone binge eats or punches someone. None of that has nothing to do with the opening message and it's nothing that everyone does not already know. The men I'm talking about in the opening ARE not only controlling their "urges" (which is a pejorative term in this context) but possibly even denying them. That was never the problem. I'm not reading any more replies from you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/23 12:10 AM |
| 1 | Is the hope of a relationship more important than the relationship itself?Depends on your definition of "need". Oxygen is also not a need according to a slippery definition but rather a chemical construct. Food is not a need but stuff made up of chemicals coming together to form nutrients. In practice of course people obviously perceive a need for air, food, shelter and social relationships the latter of which features sex. A macho conviction of dismissing the importance of other people (consistent with an insecure attachment relationship) can be done with some amount… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/23 06:26 PM |
| 1 | How does anyone connect if no one will chase?I think there are two distinct mental models to chase from which men choose: -I'm chasing her because she's cute and girls like boys just like boys like girls. She's just conditioned or too timid to take on the risk so I'll make things easy for us by taking the plunge -I'm chasing her because I would never be a catch she would go for unless I jestermaxx my goolies off. There is already some cynicism and resentment here. Reading women's posts online for two decades and learning about life can get… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/23 11:56 AM |
| 1 | Is the hope of a relationship more important than the relationship itself?That's such a stupid saying because the semen does not come from balls. Sure sperm is created in the testes but viable sperm does not stay there for too long and only a small minority of cells in the ejaculate are sperm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/23 11:49 AM |
| 2 | Is the hope of a relationship more important than the relationship itself?Feeling a bit holy today are we? People as a matter of fact do delay gratification and resist urges. I don't know if it makes any difference which word we use to refer to this phenomenon but the best way I can explain to you the necessity of sex is this: -are some people addicted to food and become obese? Yes -are some people drug addicts? Yes -are some people alcholics? Yes And so forth. Many if not most people have a propensity for obesity because there is a lot of sugary treats in the develop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/23 11:47 AM |
| 2 | Sexual deviancy for men is sexual liberation for womenIn the west we seem to have this conception of the body that is a mixture of (((feminism))) and christian and hellenic influences. We see the body as shameful but particularly male bodies. Women's bodies are celebrated and not the other way around. I have seen videos from India and oriental countries of people of both sexes and many ages celebrating male genitals and manhood. In the west our concept of sex is that a chad comes over and starts passionately groping a woman and then it ends in inte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/23 07:40 AM |
| 2 | Sexual deviancy for men is sexual liberation for womenSo you think crimes should be punished on an individual basis according to which demographic the perpetrator belongs to. Do you think that female police officers, security guards and the like should be sacked or paid less? Because they pose a lesser likelihood of being able to restrain someone without using excessive force. Should male mental health nurses be paid more because they have to deal with aggressive patients when the women are having coffee in the office? Masturbating on a beach does … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/23 07:31 AM |
| 2 | Is the hope of a relationship more important than the relationship itself?What I'm getting at is that it seems like most guys never experience sex unless they go to prostitutes or get a relationship and when they get a relationship the sex may still not happen or be uninspired with her calling the shots so the question is if it's better to just gullibly believe that the relationship would save you instead of find out the truth and have even less hope now that you've experienced the best you can realistically get. So it does seem as if relationships are a consolation p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/23 07:22 AM |
| 1 | Is the hope of a relationship more important than the relationship itself?I don't know if he was "played" or not. He knew the contributions were asymmetric and did not see much of a choice in the matter other than put his best foot forward and pay. His IQ is not up for debate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/23 07:10 AM |
| 2 | Are there more lonely men or lonely women?It's not just strategy; boys are more likely to be born neurodivergent or suffer from a variety of crippling conditions, some of which may be cause low IQ as well. Boys also tend to receive less warmth from parents and caretakers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/23 03:46 PM |
| 2 | What Percentage of College Girls Are This Superficial?Women are interested in genetics. Charming = genetics, good in bed = Genetics etc. Different situations require different genetic qualities. Men and women are always inequal in that even chads cannot provide sexual services to women. A chadlite trying to market himself to women using pure sexuality is like me trying to beat up the UFC heavyweight champ; maybe if I can clock him from a blind spot I might have a chance but the odds are really bad. A woman can make herself special by providing bana… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/23 03:29 PM |
| – | Guy asks girl who switches up the deal to leave. Subreddit goes wild.By the sound of it you already talked prior to the kiss so she received some conversation (Whatever that means). It sounds like she was shooting above her league and tried to use shaming tactics to make him commit which did not work. Calling someone a-hole is very crude and crass; nobody should be called that because of a disagreement. A lot of guys would have folded like a cheap suit under the shaming but you did not. There was no right answer there; she used shaming language as women like to d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/23 04:07 PM |
| 3 | Do wommen even truly like men at all?There are a number of reasons: -poverty of imagination (and not having to acquire tastes because of being pampered) -penis envy (yes this sounds contradictory but it is 100% real among children and as intellect develops women learn to hide it) -feminist education: many women falsely believe that men are actively out to humiliate or think little of women and even their nude bodies when the opposite is usually true. Many women are so passive that they will rather see men through (((feminist))) tal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/23 02:24 PM |
| 0 | If men knew how sexless most relationships are, they wouldn't be so depressed about single life.Does not matter. It's still untenable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/23 08:35 PM |
| 1 | If men knew how sexless most relationships are, they wouldn't be so depressed about single life.I think the reason why some bodybuilding stage lean ugly guys can get some action is because they feel like crap all the time from being overly lean and starved and they cannot cope with food. They will borderline rape women to have some pleasure in their ascetic lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/23 08:26 AM |
| – | Most guys are godawful at flirting and their success isn’t reflective of their skill levelSoftly disagree with your premise. Most guys are invisible to women and once they make their presence known they become a threat or a nuisance. If the guy makes his sexuality present in a certain environment what about the woman's responsibility to reciprocate? Do you perhaps assume that simply making gestures with your face and body is going to update his genetics? Most guys are "awful" at impressing women with their D size, Tinder pics, flirting and everything else because of genetics. You are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 11:58 AM |
| 1 | Are my values and preferences too old-fashioned?It is not realistic to get a virgin at your age. If you do, she might be mentally ill or very prudish and hateful towards sex and men. You also have no way of finding out what her past is. The virgin thing is cringe outside of the muslim world; I'm not saying it is not natural to want them in theory but it's going to scare off every woman with a brain because women are rarely virgins past their late teens and the ones who remain virgin are insufferable mental cases or don't care about sex. I'm n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 11:45 AM |
| 2 | Why do single women seem so happy compared to single men?Actions speak loud. You're telling me it's important for women to be able to brag about meeting a man in a certain way. This paints a very different picture from the one produced by your initial message. So women would rather not have a man at all if she does not meet him in the settings fitting of some goofy fantasy. That just tells you that they are not very interested in men. The problem is not that they can get "only" seggs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 07:50 PM |
| 3 | Why do single women seem so happy compared to single men?It's because women can get the perks of a relationship without a relationship. Men largely cannot. When a woman is single, she is loosely connected with a thousand guys. The downside is that she is not getting exclusive commitment from any of them. When a woman is in a relationship, she can no longer be entertained by a bunch of guys the same way because her partner would get jealous. I remember back in 2010 or so when webcam talks on PC were already a thing. I knew a slightly homely woman with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 05:58 PM |
| 6 | Why do single women seem so happy compared to single men?"Single men and single women are doing about the same. Single women know they could fuck a rando off Tinder, but that's useless currency to them." Come on man. This is the internet. You don't have to repeat this tripe. They can get a relationship with thousands of men and no amount of potty mouthed sex talk is going to change that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 05:48 PM |
| 1 | Do you think that it’s because of the way genitalia are constructed that the human mind perceives sex/cheating differentlyNowadays people get ridiculed for not thinking that Freud was a fraud. If penis envy is not based on solid observation, why are women dreaming about destroying male genitalia so much more often than the other way around? Basically women seem to have an intuitive understanding of the male genitalia as being gifted on the man as a special privilege that they could be deprived of as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 01:38 PM |
| 1 | “Women are hornier than men”These are mediating factors: -Women have a lower disgust threshold than men -Women often either experience penis envy or make convoluted associations between men's bodies and gestures linking them to some grand plans for the oppression of women or some other goofiness that's born out of a feminist education or just having a weak theory of mind. Therefore women are easily offended by men's various gestures as they interpret sexual communication as a fight for dominance where they fight fire with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 01:28 PM |
| – | I think many men want single women to be miserable because it gives them a sense of importance.I agree but you don't see the opposite of it because there is no 'womanosphere'. There was never any female PUA, female dating coaches, red pill, black pill or women going their own way. Guys having debates for hours regarding whether skill matters or if it's all looks. Guys exchanging scientific studies and anecdotes. There are hilarious and sad guys ranting about all this stuff but women are largely apathetic to all that; women just kind of float like leaves in the wind and are content with th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 11:43 PM |
| 2 | Male obsession with virginity is overratedIn theory a virgin would be nice. But when you get to 24, 29, 33 or whatever, the women that are realistically interested in you are more likely to be virgins because they are life long obese, hyperreligious or have physical or mental disorders that prevent them from experiencing or enjoying sex. I would rather take a former porn star who loves the look of average penises rather than some prudish prune with mental illness who cannot sit still without tics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 02:10 PM |
| 1 | Men value casual sex over relationshipsA relationship is a consolation prize for men. Women mean "you would be a good man" as a compliment but it's just underlining his mediocre looks and how he HAS TO settle for a relationship to get affection. Does not mean that men don't want relationships; they just want a relationship where the woman would have wanted a one night stand with him as well because that's men perceive to be raw desire. No negotiation and having to front with his reliability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 08:52 AM |
| 1 | "Never compare yourself to her ex" but she definitely will"more room to improve" = just be born again as a porn chad theory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 07:43 AM |
| 3 | "Never compare yourself to her ex" but she definitely willIf he truly did well, he might not know it either because she apparently prefers to share intimate details with people who are not privy to that information. He could have plain lucked out. How else? Him being good may in part be due to the possibility of him being able to accommodate her script of 'being good' without explicit communication. Again a woman can take her chances with that but she has no business complaining if she is not going to invest in explicit communication. If the guy is con… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 07:41 AM |
| 1 | " If sex is water, women have to survive on the ocean, men in the desert." this is worst attempt at equalizing men and women's issues in datingI don't know if there is a term for it in psychology but it's like holding an online auction for an item that you hold dear and you are constantly bombarded with better offers of money in exchange for the item. That's what happens to women which is the opposite of what some say; if a woman has very narrow options she is eventually going to settle for a conventionally unattractive or average man just to have some intimacy. I have seen that myself. My cousin used to date a chaddish musician, then … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 12:44 PM |
| 4 | Men's and women's woes are objectively incomparable30% of boys go through MGM. FGM is very rare in comparison and the WHO classifies any minor scratch or pin prick as FGM. Also the men of the third world are not living it up. The media in the west simply concentrates on the women. Obviously women are more often killed by husbands than strangers because that's who they spend the majority of their time with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 12:36 PM |
| 2 | "Never compare yourself to her ex" but she definitely willYes there are a number of factors that might explain that: -Women want sex to be shrouded with an air of mystery because they are embarrassed to communicate their needs explicitly or lack the self-awareness to articulate them. Not wanting to admit that they pour the responsibility on the man and vent their frustration on him -Or her explicit fantasy is for the man "to just get it" which we cannot fault her for but she also cannot fault him for not reading her mind -Finally genetics; women can gr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 12:24 PM |
| 9 | "Never compare yourself to her ex" but she definitely willYou're missing or denying the point; he has no way to know how to be "awesome at sex" unless she communicates her needs and desires to him in a way that is intelligible to him. You're confusing the intent with the outcome just like many women online are conflating their after the fact feelings with the actual action. Evaluating things after the fact is not instruction nor is it helpful as feedback since the information needed to improve is missing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 12:14 PM |
| – | Do you feel online dating is alienating the sexes more?Yeah well it's kind of like saying that I'm angry because I had a huge pizza and cannot have ice cream right now. If women don't want sex for the sake of sex, women are useless to men unless used as escorts. When I was very young, I talked with girls as young as 14 who were trying to get on backstage with international musicians to lose their virginity. They were not seeking a relationship but wanted sex from the hottest guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 12:48 PM |
| 1 | High libido is a curse for unattractive peopleTry to make your baits less audacious. Leave out stuff like " As a woman, I always have the upper hand and I can pick and choose men because I have a relatively lower libido. If my libido were as high as the average man, I would be doing a lot of stupid things." In your mind may you be just blunt but to everyone else you sound like a retard and an asshole with no sense of sophistication. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 12:40 PM |
| 1 | As long as you don't have a major disability/deformity and are neurotypical, you WILL get womenLet's not confuse the chicken with the egg. Being rejected and having bad luck for years may make someone 'awkward'. Especially when they tell you their story and your 'just world' rationalization kicks in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 12:37 PM |
| 1 | "Men would still have sex with an ugly woman" is a shitty consolation prizeWomen don't look at a man and think "Well he's under six feet tall and is not built like a porn star in his pants but damn he still has that thing and the overall male form...it's still a tillitating experience and I'm going to get just as wet for him so let's go for it!" But men will look at an unattractive or goofy woman and still find something beautiful in her and erections don't lie; he is going to get just as hard for her as he would for a supermodel. That seems like validation to me. Now … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 10:30 AM |
| 3 | Women just expect men to pay, even on bad dates. Is this reasonable?Depends on the culture. That is a bit of a stretch if not laughable in Scandinavia for example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 09:35 AM |
| 1 | JDBF (Just Don’t Be Fat)For women letting go of things gives them an advantage over the average competitor: -Let go of your fat -Let go of your feminism and anti-male attitudes you have been indoctrinated into -Let go of narrow sexual communication framing "me object, you subject", "you do 99% of the work because men and women are different and I'm worthy on a deserted island" For men their SMV is more about adding stuff. Women just need to release their fat and bitchy attitudes and go back to their natural curiosity a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 09:29 AM |
| 4 | Most women respect men with larger penises more than men with smaller ones, even if they do not prefer larger penises in a sexual contextYes when people like someone, they attribute positive physical qualities to that person and vice versa. If a woman loses an argument online, she is not going to say: "You're tall!" "You have a huge dick!" "You have fluffy hair and a sharp jawline!" The insults are always predictable. I've been on this earth for almost 40 years and I cannot recall a single instance where women talked about how someone's penis was amazing for any reason other than (large) size. The women who say size does not matt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 11:11 PM |
| 3 | If a man and a woman are friends, then the man is (most likely) sexually attracted to the woman?Many people wonder if men and women can be friends because of perceived attraction. I feel it's the other way around; male and female relationships only work if there is sexual attraction. That's because women usually don't care about issues or they would rather share them with another woman. I went to a dancing society for years and every time I tried to strike up a conversation with some of the women about dancing they stonewalled me and otherwise let me know that I'm undesirable. There was … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 10:53 PM |
| 2 | Being a younger generation z (post 2000) seems like hellNo it's more a case of men responding to the fact that women want to be the arbiters of male genetic quality because it's convenient for women. For men it's no different than reading some women's magazine with pictures of clothed women in it. I was not obsessed with women's fashion magazines and I'm not obsessed with Tinder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Porn is mostly positive for menPorn can help men respect women and women respect men. By porn I mean nudity and recorded sex. It is my understanding that in certain Asian cultures human genitalia and bodies are celebrated and seen as divine with a mystical air; many women in the west would roar with laughter at the idea of worshipping the divine masculinity of her man. This is the western-christian appreciation of the body which is now heavily influenced by feminism with women being granted priesthood and women holding exhibi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 11:23 AM |
| 2 | Being monogamous and wanting children should guarantee every man getting a female partner. Our current dating environment is just an anomaly before population collapse." This is partly due to wombs being more valuable than sperm. " You seem to be confounding cause and its proposed explanation. This is a circular fallacy that is often seen in these conversations: "eggs are more important than sperm. Therefore women are more important than men" etc. The premise remains unproven. " Finally, due to male variability theory, 'left tailed' men on various key distributions are--in absolute terms--much less viable as basic human beings and contributing members of socie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 09:20 AM |
| 2 | It's Illogical For Men on this Sub to Blame WomenRegarding your last paragraph; it is not always possible for people to extensively interview the ones they are attracted to. Assuming that the man is just 'asking for sex' is a defect on the part of the woman. The man is still screening her just as much as she is screening him. Also feminism and equality are not the same thing. Feminism since the 20th century is a largely ((((Abrahamic))) operation to drive a wedge between men and women by making women suspicious of men. Science starts with a hy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 09:08 AM |
| 2 | Men experience more loneliness because they don’t form any meaningful relationships in their life.People are hungry because food is not going into their belly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 08:39 AM |
| 1 | Do you think you would exist if your parents had to endure modern dating?I agree about procreation. I don't necessarily agree about the abuse thing. If these two people can abuse each other maybe it helps them remain productive citizens outside of home? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 08:38 AM |
| 3 | Misandry and Misogyny fuel each otherI said "mostly...islam". There are a lot more muslims than there are jews. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/23 08:34 PM |
| – | Misandry and Misogyny fuel each otherNobody is just a man or just a woman. When a white person is assaulted by black offenders in America, it rarely makes headline although it's much more widespread than whites assaulting blacks. The difference is that black people are much more likely to conceptualize being assaulted by whites as an act of hate. Feeling hated is not the same as being hated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/23 03:02 PM |
| 5 | Misandry and Misogyny fuel each otherYou seem to be confounding emotions and practices among else. Do children lack some rights (like the vote) that adults have because adults hate children? You could certainly make a primitive argument like that. Do adults consider children to be more worthy of love because they don't have to work for a living in first and second world countries? You could argue that too. Hate is born out of a feeling of injustice or your goals being obstructed. Religious views for example have more to them than t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/23 02:58 PM |
| -2 | Do you think you would exist if your parents had to endure modern dating?I did try to understand. If you believe that nasty people should not date each other, please tell me why? Either they are completely alone or date each other because if you believe that a shit tier woman deserves to date a normal guy then I would be interested in hearing how you justify that. Remember you said that your dad does not deserve any other women as if all women are superior to him. I doubt this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/23 02:06 PM |
| -1 | Do you think you would exist if your parents had to endure modern dating?What does that have to do with my response? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/23 01:41 PM |
| -3 | Do you think you would exist if your parents had to endure modern dating?"or any other women" Not even crap women? There are lowly women out there too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/23 12:38 PM |
| -1 | CMV you don't need to be a whore to be good at sexI used to think that women care about men's experience. What I believe now is that 'experience' is partially code for height, face and penis size. That's not all there is to it because average guys are getting lucky (it's called getting lucky because average men need luck) and in those instances experience can make or break the deal because women expect average men to follow a certain communicational script to make up for their lack of genetic quality. There may be some exceptions like the so ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/23 10:14 AM |
| 4 | When women complain about the "slut-stud double standard" are they actually complaining about women being called "sluts", not so much about men being called "studs"?Experienced man = chad because chad gets the experience without sacrificing his dignity or wallet skilled in bed = tall, big dick, nice face | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 08:11 PM |
| 2 | Thoughts on “the wall” and beyondThere's more to you than your scalp. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 07:11 PM |
| -2 | Men with low sexdrive. A dealbreaker?Man with low sex drive = woman has no bargaining power. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 05:34 PM |
| – | Do you believe the wall exist for woman & do you think life is easier for them ?Men see a decline. Women see a dick line. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 02:58 PM |
| 0 | Thoughts on “the wall” and beyondStudies? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 02:51 PM |
| 5 | Thoughts on “the wall” and beyondThe fact that you had to come up with some goofy job description is evidence indicating that some women will eventually pine for guys that were not and are not chads in their middle-age. Otherwise it would have been completely redundant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 02:50 PM |
| 4 | men need to stop projecting and understand/accept that women’s sexuality will never be the same as theirsIdeally both men and women should compromise. Some people would argue that children are inherently selfish and it's raised out of them. Some men don't initially think that vaginas are nice to look at but as they mature they become conditioned through exposure to feel differently and they also want to be virtuous and enliven their partner. Women perhaps more rarely mature this way; many women prefer to expect a man to know her fantasies from the get-go and they do not bother to acquire new belief… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 02:36 PM |
| -6 | Thoughts on “the wall” and beyond" Most men have never made friends with moisturiser and are losing their hairline by 30. They also carry more weight in their gut whereas women gain weight typically in their hips, thighs etc. " Hair loss is a genetic condition which has nothing to do with lifestyle. Some men are programmed to lose their at 20, others at 40 and some never do. I do use sun screen but I am yet to see any evidence of moisturiser making any difference in aging. Yes you can slap a lotion on yourself but does that rev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 02:28 PM |
| 2 | Thoughts on “the wall” and beyondBalding is genetic. Some men go bald in their early 20's. Some never experience any balding. You are joining balding together with lifestyle choices or factors which shows a lack of awareness. You could just as well ask why should a 21 year old go to bed with a 35 year old whose P-size is six inches or height is 5'11. It is a genetic quality independent of age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 02:19 PM |
| 9 | Thoughts on “the wall” and beyondOtherwise good question but the manager thing is just a petty insult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 02:17 PM |
| 33 | The problem with this subreddit is that half of the sub are people in their 20s, the other half are early Millennials and Gen XI'm late 30's. It makes no difference if I were 10 years younger unless you have found a mate a long time ago. If you're single, especially incel level, age does not matter. You struggle on the same platforms as everyone else; you have just been suffering longer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 10:22 AM |
| 2 | What is up with the term “tingles”?A lot of guys, maybe more than 60% of men are holding out hope that some day a relationship will come and his sexual needs will finally be fulfilled. I'm not saying they won't and having some amount of access to a woman's body is better than nothing. I'm just wondering how men tend to see their game plan as unfolding and what they base their dream on. If you struggle to get attention, can you expect your sex life to be satisfactory in a relationship where you just barely qualify? I'm going to ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 09:09 PM |
| 2 | Had 8 year long redpill relationship with highschool sweetheart. Maintained frame like a boss until I didn't. Would like to know your thoughts.Many relationships have an expiry date. You started dating when you were children and you are both still very young. There's a good chance you were not mean to grow old together. I would take solace in the fact that you managed to get into a relationship at a very early age and have experience that most men your age are lacking. | /r/TheRedPill | 20/10/23 07:50 PM |
| 0 | What percent of men are able to date casually or date without the prospect of commitmentThe question is not what is good or bad. How about concentrating on the question instead of getting on the defensive pre-emptively and injecting your uninvited opinions? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 06:28 PM |
| 1 | Women get a lot of credit for being “good” people for no valid reasonJordan Peterson said that weakness does not make you good. People are more trusting of women because they are weaker and more risk averse. This does not mean that women are better people. It's just that a woman can use men's sexual desperation to have people killed but not the other way around. Men are better at many thingsl and that includes violence; women are good at using men's skills and abilities. Also bad women can still breed just the same and get sex just the same. A lot of their life t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 06:16 PM |
| 1 | Women deserve their creditYou use slippery language: "men are not beautiful like peacocks...women are regarded" Regarded by whom? We already know what you think. Men do have far more detailed physiques than women and tend to take up more space. It may also be the case that every male peacock has the imposing tail so there is no discrepancy there. To the female peacock the tails are ordinary just like rippling muscles, height and moving parts are ordinary to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 03:22 PM |
| 0 | Marriage is a extended time escort service scheme.Where I live you need to go to university for five years to be a teacher. Cops need to go to a vocational college for three years. Cops are lower middle class whereas teachers can be anything from middle class to upper middle class. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 03:00 PM |
| 9 | CMV: Nice guys are really just thirsty guys.Women will always find a way to spin unattractive guys are being shitty people. This 'nice guy' rant is an example of it and it is justified by a small minority of guys who get vocal about their frustration as opposed to the silent majority who get jack shit for their efforts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 01:16 PM |
| 4 | Are men really not attracted to fat girls?I'm not attracted to fat girls. I don't care that much if a woman has curves; I don't want her to be panting when we go walking, I don't want her to have hygiene problems and clog the toilet. I don't want her to sweat profusely and complain about the weather in the summer. I don't want her to crush me when she sits or lays on me and I don't want her habbits rubbing off on me. It takes a lot of bad choices to get fat and staying fat requires chronic bad habits. Also fat distorts your face and nec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 01:13 PM |
| 16 | Are men really not attracted to fat girls?Everyone starts out non-fat. Being non-fat actually only requires calorie control. It requires zero exercise. People don't start out rich and then lose it by making chronical mistakes. The comparison is ridiculous but if it makes you feel better then cool. One thing is for sure though; the person who cannot control their eating most certainly will not be rich any time soon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 01:07 PM |
| 3 | Men are told to "touch grass" and "talk to women" but if they fumble they get to be creep shamed on social mediaWaffles has been a gentleman. The videos are out there to show it. He's young and sometimes his energy overwhelms his wisdom but he's well socialized and harmless. You did not document anything he did wrong. Link a video and show us what he did that's rude enough for you to use such crass, low class words. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 12:04 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Too many men place their respect for women above their respect for themselvesThere's a lot of talk about how women adjust their behavior around men to feel safe. There's less talk about how men adjust their behavior so as to not inconvenience women. Most men arguably are afraid to flirt and feel embarrassed to even look at a woman for too long because they took the black pill and think she will be disgusted by his looks. Most men choose to address women in a soft voice and try to make themselves physically smaller around women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 12:00 PM |
| 2 | Most men who hate women online don't really hate them in real lifeYou make a good point. People can bicker about what is "real life" so you can just call it the difference between venting and wanting to give people a chance during an actual interaction. I knew a guy who had a men's rights forum of his own and it attracted some messed up men like one who idolized Marc Lepiné. To be honest he was the only one who had such thoughts but that predates ER by at least seven years so it's interesting. That was in the 00's. My friend who had the forum had strong opinio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 08:06 AM |
| – | CMV A women will subconsciously treat you completely different if she sees you as a Man are ambitious/have a goal. I am really curious if i am right here.Being a slob will increase her disgust towards an ugly man. Being a hustler will increase her attraction towards a chad. It is an amplifier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 07:58 AM |
| 4 | Porn's impact on males' standards when it comes to women is equivalent to what dating apps/social media is doing to women's standards.The age of the VHS and Ron Jeremy is over. We now live in an era where recorded sex and nudity is completely different and there is most certainly no longer any fixed 'wrong' depiction of 'real' sex and bodies. But if you want to stick to the waning world of commercial porn with the recycled male and female faces from somewhere in United States then we could talk about that too. The women in porn do not stand out in any way except that they tend to be thin in a world where most women are overwei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 09:54 PM |
| 0 | CMV : A lot of very attractive girls I’ve noticed just have very one dimensional tall tattooed bearded boyfriendsJust be a tall tattooed bearded wall flower - theory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Why do you desire college educated men?I think there's a reason which transcends gender. In blue collar work your body might wear out and if you become redundant for whatever reason it's gonna be much harder to hop to another line of work than if you had a masters' degree. That's because employers perceive that people with college degrees are more adaptable and have developed generalizable critical thinking skills to the extent where they can take on a multitude of tasks more easily; it's also a filter that weeds out low IQ people. S… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 01:02 PM |
| 1 | In what ways is porn addiction damaging for men, and why?Yes recordings are real unless it's CGI. Genuine smiles cannot be faked; you are either feeling good or you're not and women feel good when when chad shows his enormous genitals and shredded abs. Some women will even smile at average men. It has all been recorded and you can go on Chaturbate right now to see couples having sex and hanging out naked. I use the neutral term 'recorded sex' to make some people look as foolish as they really are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 12:26 PM |
| 16 | What is the main reason men are single 2023I only know about the west. If you're not a super-extroverted chad your best bet is to get into university (maybe college for America) at a young age so you can socialize with fairly well socialized women and most students will be women as well. This seems to be the sweet spot where you're young and there's a chance one woman will find you attractive enough for the next several years. If your education and thereby job market entry gets delayed for whatever reason that window closes as you'll be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 10:06 AM |
| 1 | In what ways is porn addiction damaging for men, and why?Addicion is bad by definition. Consumption is not. Overall watching recordings of sexual behavior has made me wiser and more respectful of the women. This would include live webcam feed. Perhaps the most sombering thing about any kind of recorded sex available online is that even in those recordings the rules we know from commercial porn and Tinder seem to hold; it's a small minority of men getting most of the play. We literally only have to see the man from the waist down to know that as there … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 05:27 AM |
| 2 | New study shows that 5% of men sleep with 66% of young women. Will society destabilize from most men being neglected?6'1 manlet with a seven inch micropenis playing in a mediocre band? Better luck in next life where you'll be 6'3 with an eight incher in a more popular band with better skin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 05:00 AM |
| 5 | Dating in your 30s for a guy is way easier as long as you have your shit together.I'm pushing 40 and I thought for some time that getting accomplishments and being in the rat race would somehow glow through my skin and women would just magically know my 'worth'. Over time I've learned that carry-over between romantic attraction and other areas of life is minimal and that you will always front with your face and height (and hair if you have any). For years I read women's forums nagging about how awful their spouses are and I often thought to myself "Hey I don't have that flaw … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 04:51 AM |
| 1 | CMV : why can’t it be true that far less men are objectively attractive than women?Then maybe don't say things like "NOT meant to breed" to imply that most men are genetic dead ends because of a feminist goddess in the sky. Demoralizing people by taking away their hope, even false hope ultimately leads to worse things than rape like murder. The sterilization comment was meant to draw attention the fact that different societies go through different cultural periods. In the west women now live in a market of untold prosperity and privilege but if a feminist sky mommy was real th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/23 03:57 AM |
| 0 | CMV : why can’t it be true that far less men are objectively attractive than women?I was born in the early mid 80's and when I was growing up the trans thing was still a joke for comedies and not something that you must vouch for as zoomers are raised to think (not to mention generation Alpha). Nowadays you cannot go on Tinder without running into guys pretending to be girls and some of these men are very pretty in a feminine way but I would want to strangle them if they tried to fool me into touching them under the pretense of being a real woman. My point is that if men want … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/23 10:27 PM |
| 1 | CMV : why can’t it be true that far less men are objectively attractive than women?You are assuming that it matters what women want. Arranged marriage and rape is still a thing and saying men are not "meant to breed" is just inhumane as saying that rape is pretty cool. Decades ago both men and women were forcibly sterilized in the most advanced western nations for traits like deafness. Now it would be seen as abhorrent even for the worst POS criminals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/23 09:55 PM |
| 0 | New study shows that 5% of men sleep with 66% of young women. Will society destabilize from most men being neglected?I think there's another problematic reason for those stats and I don't know if there is a name for it in social psychology but it's basically this: Imagine you're selling an item in an online auction and every day someone comes up with a better bid. You would kind of want the money but you're anxious to let go of the item because your experience tells you that someone is going to offer even more value in exchange for it. This analogy is far from perfect but it explains "sexless" women who are ou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/23 08:47 PM |
| 1 | The reason men outperform women is to become attractive ?You still don't get it but that's fine. Thanks for the input. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/23 11:22 AM |
| 2 | Most men cause their dating issues" if an average guy thinks hes too good for a fat girl then hes delusional in todays dating climate. " So you are saying women have all the power? This is possibly the only testable claim you are making. The average guy is not fat (by average people's standards, not fitness competitions). How can that be delusional unless women are heavily privileged and women who cannot stop devouring tasty junk foods can shoot above their league? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/23 08:37 AM |
| 1 | The reason men outperform women is to become attractive ?Whether we use plural or singular it comes down to men; one man, two men, fifty men. I'm obviously using the plural preferentially because this is a discussion about men's collective behavior as a sex. This is not an attempt to explain the multilayered personality of a single actor which may be the focus of biographical research. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/23 08:30 AM |
| -3 | Dating for men is a race to the bottomTo feel alive men want to give to their environment and be appreciated for it. 90% of acts of heroism = men 90% of workplace fatalities = men most patents = men 99% of conscripts = men every person that ever made you laugh = man 90% of sexual compliments = from men as well I believe that during evolution women evolved to feel satisfied when their belly was full because men would see to it that she would be pregnant or tending to children and then her feeling good would be a good omen for the who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/23 11:52 PM |
| 14 | The reason men outperform women is to become attractive ?Impressing women is a fact of life but it does not explain why gay men invented computer science and other inventions. Gay men have also won Mr. Olympia. Speaking of Mr. Olympia, women supposedly don't like guys that muscular but guys are dying to get that big. Men want to conquer things including women. Men are adventurers and they want to gain some semblance of control over their circumstances; men like Richard Dawkins want to understand the world and gain knowledge for its own sake while peop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/23 08:09 PM |
| 8 | 18 to 24-year-old individuals who reported no sexual activity in the past year increased among men (but not among women)Wow I never thought of that as a straight man. Even though I have nut allergy I think I'm going to eat some now too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/23 06:47 PM |
| 4 | 18 to 24-year-old individuals who reported no sexual activity in the past year increased among men (but not among women)" Women are burdened by reproductive and other tangible, physical risks when having sex with men in a way men are not with women. " That is greatly attenuated by technology and infrastructure. There is fool proof contraception nowadays against STI's and pregnancy. Otherwise the risk is being beaten up. That can happen any time anywhere and usually happens to men. If realistic virtual girlfriends become a thing then technology will start to benefit men too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/23 06:46 PM |
| 25 | 18 to 24-year-old individuals who reported no sexual activity in the past year increased among men (but not among women)Women can get sexual validation without having actual sex. Men's only source of sexual validation is actual sex AKA having access to a woman's body. Men cannot post their nudes on NSFW-Reddit and have women saying they want to drink his bath water and hack their arm off to get with him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/23 01:07 PM |
| 6 | Women are extremely visual in all other facets of life. It's completely irrational to think they make an exception for men.As I said it does not matter what their motivation is; straight men cannot turn gay and God won't create a third sex to cater to men so the result is the same; men struggling and coping with women having antagonistic or at least ambivalent attitudes towards the male body from a male perspective whereas the male perspective is generally unproblematic for women. Also it's a small detail but I think it's unnecessary to use the word 'believe'. People don't need to invest belief in preferences; if I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/23 12:40 PM |
| 1 | The reason why tall men are seen as more attractive is because height is a wealth signifierWomen believe that taller men have longer penises (girth is cope). I have seen women state this myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/23 11:33 AM |
| 1 | The reason why tall men are seen as more attractive is because height is a wealth signifierIs your jaw downright horrible or just average? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/23 11:31 AM |
| 2 | What Men Think of as a Nice Guy/Asshole is Very Different From WomenWomen and chads can afford to be assholes. That's where it comes from; women are used to be men being submissive and talking to them like some kind catholic priest volunteer worker with a servicing timid smile plastered on his face. Therefore chads upset women's ordinary equilibrium of power and world view. They can have shit eating grins and act like the women of the male gender. It's particularly upsetting because these women associate good looks with good character so it feels like the ultima… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/23 11:24 AM |
| 20 | Women are extremely visual in all other facets of life. It's completely irrational to think they make an exception for men.I think some confusion stems from the fact that although women can be extremely picky and notice very small details in men they still don't go out of their way to observe and watch men the way men watch women. Men who post pictures on Reddit are complimented by gay and bi-men and not women. It is extremely demoralizing for men to notice that women will often rate plain Janes higher than literal male models and actors and make self-serving statements about the more beautiful sex. Some of it may b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/23 11:17 AM |
| 1 | GrannyfishIf obese grannies have leverage in the dating market, how are we supposed to believe that women in their 20's only get lewd offers of anal sex or whatever it is that women hate? Men are not handicapped for the most part. Even if the man only wants sex the exchange has to be pleasurable to the woman so the man has to entertain her whims to get whatever he wants and the man is acting as the buyer. Women can decide what currency they will accept. Yet we are supposed to believe that men's writing on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 11:56 PM |
| 0 | This explains a lot: Majority of Women declined sex due to body insecurities, dating app finds" Firstly, the class stratification is extremely asymmetrical in sex work, meaning only a very very small percentile of sex workers make a livable wage." So sex work and porn are the same thing now? " Such a lifestyle is far from empowering, in fact, it precedes a life dominated by financial struggle." Then don't choose that lifestyle. Post a picture of your goods for money without your face showing and get a good education and professional work as your main line of employment. " Not to mention … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 04:13 PM |
| 0 | This explains a lot: Majority of Women declined sex due to body insecurities, dating app findsThat's a zero value reply unless you want to elaborate a lot. People are not going to read your mind or conclude you to be intelligent because they don't understand cryptic ramblings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 02:13 PM |
| -1 | This explains a lot: Majority of Women declined sex due to body insecurities, dating app findsFirst of all the word 'porn' derives from an ancient Greek Biblical word that linguists are still trying to work out but it had a negative connotation. If we simply talked about imagery of nudity, masturbation and sex it might make a big difference. Unless there is some religious reason for it taking photography or footage of nude people or sex is hard to see as evil. But when people use the word 'porn' they basically draw from the ancient Biblical meaning and anything they taint with the word '… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 02:11 PM |
| -2 | This explains a lot: Majority of Women declined sex due to body insecurities, dating app findsI claim that posting tits online is therapeutic if the goal is to get compliments and adoration. I acknowledge your ad hominem but won't engage. My comment was not intended to be noble but a blunt observation. I understand that many women don't care about compliments. However if people are going to be create a long standing narrative about "media", "pressure", "patriarchy" and other buzzwords which actually makes women anxious and suspicious of men and "society" (whatever that is) then I think i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 01:46 PM |
| -7 | This explains a lot: Majority of Women declined sex due to body insecurities, dating app findsYou're glorifying "therapy" and making it out to be this mystical healing magic. The word comes from Greek and means "healing". Healing can come from a number of sources without you lining up someone's pockets. Half of the effect of these formal therapies comes from you fulfilling class, time and culture related expectations of what is supposed to be good for you: it's a form of role play where a person assigned a certain position in society is empowering you by engaging in this role play with y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 12:50 PM |
| -8 | This explains a lot: Majority of Women declined sex due to body insecurities, dating app finds-There is enough free porn for me. If new material stops coming, I have enough archived -How else would you fix the problem of someone feeling insecure about their body? What other evidence and encouragement could be better than getting compliments from men? The problem literally concerns the woman thinking that men think ill of her body. Even scientific therapies that do not revolve around bodies or nudity are often based on the idea that people need to test their beliefs in reality and develop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 11:54 AM |
| -7 | This explains a lot: Majority of Women declined sex due to body insecurities, dating app findsAll these women would need to do is post a few pics on any NSFW-Reddit and they would be showered with compliments regarding their body and genitalia. A man has to post on a gay NSFW-Reddit to get any attention. But they almost never do and they don't even care about the compliments. There's no convincing them. It's almost like they want to be pussies like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 11:04 AM |
| 6 | This explains a lot: Majority of Women declined sex due to body insecurities, dating app findsWomen have imaginary foes. For women "just touch grass bro" is literally gold. If she just let go she could have an amazing life. If she broke the dam that's preventing men from coming into her life. With guys it's the opposite; if you are just confident you can get arrested or pummeled. Being inhibited and assuming the worst just keeps you safe. As Margaret Thatcher said "society" does not exist. People need to shove "society" and other feminist tags up their ass. There is no magical patriarchy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 11:02 AM |
| 2 | Thoughts on the idea that for women attracting men is less about what you are but what do you ?They do matter. I think that myth rose out of the fact that: -Some men truly do not care and may be too underaccomplished or insecure to care for anything but airheaded and submissive women -Men do care but some women are too arrogant to fix obvious turn-offs that are literally staring at them in the mirror and they instead go for convoluted explanations like "I should learn the piano better" when she should dress like an adult, groom better and most importantly lay off the chocolate and other j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 09:46 AM |
| 0 | What portion of men are actually loathsome slimy creepy scumbags in your experience?You use the following words: -deranged deadbeats -reprehensible -sociopathic stalkers -loathsome slimy creepy scumbag This sounds like a SNL or MadTV sketch. It sounds like you're describing Hannibal Lecter and the best you can do is to let us know that a woman felt harassed; you're concentrating on the emotion instead of the action. The laugh track kicks in when the guy behind this description is shown. I'm pushing 40 and I have been going to night venues since the age of 21. Night venues are k… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 08:34 AM |
| 1 | I think womens lower libido is what makes dating so hardYou're confusing cause and effect. Also until recently there was no paralympics. Does that mean that people with no legs are going to outrun Usain Bolt sometime in the future? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 08:11 AM |
| -2 | Communication between the sexes about the dating market won't be effective until women trust that most men don't want society to go back to oppressing female sexuality.Feminist historical narrative = blatant lies, schizophrenic ramblings and cherrypicking evidence to suit gender marxism. You cannot use logic to argue against unfalsifiable fables. I took gender studies in uni. If you take the incoherent rantings as a literature study (study of fiction) then no problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 12:16 AM |
| 1 | Age gap only matters if you’re not her first optionThere is never equality in a relationship; the fact that one party is a man and the other a woman already pretty much assures that. An adult probably is not a few years away from being a child. Your grandmother in hospice care may be a few days away from being dead but that does not mean you're going to cremate her now that she's alive. Temporal distance does not mean much therefore but rather the role the person is playing right now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 12:07 AM |
| -2 | I think womens lower libido is what makes dating so hardSome studies indicate that women enjoy most of their hook-ups although a large minority don't. I think some of that comes down to pride and penis envy; a lot of women are very reluctant to admit that men can be interesting, much less amazing so they engage in mental acrobatics and verbal spinjobs to make it sound like they are chronically unimpressed even with the men who they go for. I think it's the same reason why many women are so concerned about porn; they are embarrassed that men and boys … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 12:00 AM |
| 1 | Are men more willing to be in a relationship with a woman who is not attracted to them?I don't know if this is bait or serious but some people are taking it seriously so here's something for you to work on: -Some men are so wealthy that they can afford to be a "walking wallet". Just like some men are so strong that they can warm up with the max weights of another man and be fine -You answered your own question: they don't feel humiliated. If they did, they would not be doing that. Besides it's the man's penis going in and out of the woman. He's not the one being penetrated. People… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 11:14 PM |
| -1 | Men are considered creeps not due to their actions, but due to thoughts of womenI can see how that could be unsettling. Now with that said in the culture I know you are only "supposed" to approach women in loud night venues that are crowded and the restrooms smell like urine and the drinks are expensive. You have to pretend to have fun while you are crying inside. Tinder? You can chadfish a date by using some male model's picture. I don't think women respect that either. For some guys the lesser of two evils is to just talk to a woman on the street on his best day. I have d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 11:00 PM |
| 2 | Skinny faggot to jacked chad - a guide.You can squat but please don't lift a barbell on your back unless it is literally 100 pounds. I use a dip belt and a backbag. Your spine does not get stronger from all that exertion; it just wears down your discs. Train your muscles and not your spine and bones. | /r/TheRedPill | 13/10/23 01:32 PM |
| -1 | Men are not malicious for being centered around sexI was raised in a clandestinely conservative family and basically came out of the closet as a straight red blooded man only in my 20's. My story is not uncommon. A lot of men are ashamed to be men and they figure that their best bet is to slide their sexuality in through the backdoor. It's hard to blame them for that as it has kind of worked for many men who settled for women who found them unattractive enough to be sexy and attractive enough to be used to build her middle-class dream life. Ther… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 01:30 PM |
| – | Who has it harder in dating? Men or Women and Why?Women do not need to date to get their needs met. Dating is a game to get to things you like and not an end in itself. Women can get a child without having the maturity for a relationship while it's illegal for men to rent a womb where I live. I should not have to mention sex or compliments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 08:35 PM |
| – | On gender, intimacy and embarrasmentI do not disagree. However I'm also describing a larger arousal and communication pattern where women present themselves as objects; often with either fake or real air of confidence. A man's mere faint hint at wanting to be objectified as well can be met with interrogatory questions like "You think you're a Greek God?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 08:52 AM |
| 5 | Men are constantly told they overrate themselves, despite the fact that the vast majority of men obviously UNDERrate themselves. Meanwhile, women are notorious for overrating their physical appearance.That's some oddly specific numbers. 185 pounds is not that much weight. If he has been lifting for years he might simply have an amazing body instead of being slightly overweight. Also job = not looks. You are all over the place. That's like ranting about how he plays the flute and not the cool instrument that is guitar. Instrument = not looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 07:30 AM |
| 1 | Men are constantly told they overrate themselves, despite the fact that the vast majority of men obviously UNDERrate themselves. Meanwhile, women are notorious for overrating their physical appearance.What does that have to do with OP's point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 07:21 AM |
| 1 | The question you never want to hear as a young man or at any ageThe question itself is not rude or inappropriate. It's just that when a man hangs out with a woman and she does not care about his interests and asks questions like that it means she has no interest in him for his sake. If he has no interest in her either then it's fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 04:17 PM |
| 4 | AF/BB is true and it's a rational strategy for womenDo you know what natural bodybuilding means? It's basically what Jason Momoa, Henry Cavill or whoever women think is hot right now looks like in their movies when they take some steroids and go to gym for a while. A natural guy has to train years with a strict diet to look like that but he can. A proper non-natural dwarfs all the above. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 01:23 PM |
| 1 | The question you never want to hear as a young man or at any ageYou can deny my experience but that does not remove it from existence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 10:35 AM |
| 4 | AF/BB is true and it's a rational strategy for womenNatural bodybuilders represent peak attractiveness in terms of body composition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 09:43 AM |
| 1 | Should Asipe/NT men just looksmaxx?Please define your terms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 09:05 AM |
| 5 | AF/BB is true and it's a rational strategy for womenI think it's based on: -math -previous experience Attractiveness is math and sometimes very simple math. When it comes to men bigger is usually better (more height, more muscle, more hair, more penis, more extroversion etc.). Facial attractiveness is also mathematical though less simple There are numerous anecdotes of women revealing their feelings anonymously online. I once overheard my cousin saying she initially thought her future husband was a "creep". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 08:57 AM |
| 2 | Skinny faggot to jacked chad - a guide.-Go to Doug Brignole -there is no such thing as accessory exercises unless you compete in a strength sport; just exercises -avoid back squats and deadlifts; nothing is as crippling as back pain and you put your spine in a precarious position with barbell squats and deadlifts | /r/TheRedPill | 11/10/23 08:08 AM |
| 1 | The only men who truly benefit from modern dating culture are the tip top percentile of men"Their energy" Sigh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 07:58 AM |
| 1 | Young men have a dysmorphia epidemic, not a loneliness epidemicMen legitimately cannot have body dysmorphia because for men the pressure to be perfect is real. Even chads are going to get rejected most of the time. Women's biggest problem is they refuse to receive the validation that men are trying to give them. It's like that meme with the woman complaining how lonely she is while trying to keep her door from being pushed open by thirsty men ("literally this effing meme"). You can google that meme. You are good enough for your mother and you can take pride… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 10:50 PM |
| 2 | The question you never want to hear as a young man or at any ageThat's actually better because she's giving you something to work with and presumably accepts to be served by you in a verbal confrontation. That might arouse her or at least get a funny reaction out of her so you can joker laugh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 10:44 PM |
| 0 | The question you never want to hear as a young man or at any ageYou use some pretty crass words and people in night clubs actually start kissing and fondling each others' genitals on the dance floor without knowing what degrees the other person has. It has even happened to me and I prefer a far more subtle approach but I have the courtesy not to ask a woman too specific and serious questions in the beginning. I might ask her if she's studying here or working and that's that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 10:27 PM |
| – | The question you never want to hear as a young man or at any ageNice insults. They go well with your inability to account for that which has been stated a number of times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 04:42 PM |
| – | What Metrics “Should” Women be attracted to?Virtue signaling much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 04:17 PM |
| 0 | The question you never want to hear as a young man or at any ageI have addressed your questions elsewhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 04:08 PM |
| 2 | Most college aged women do not want 30+ year old menI have nothing further to say to you. I hope fence sitters benefited from the conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 04:07 PM |
| 2 | Most college aged women do not want 30+ year old menIf they fully maxxed out in their 20's sure but don't forget that the age of the average Olympia winner is 32-34 and some of those winners are in their 40's. Your statement assumes that they have everything figured out in their 20's. That's a rarity unless you have a professional coaching you from high school. Most guys figure this stuff out on their own or never do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 03:23 PM |
| 2 | Most college aged women do not want 30+ year old menNobody is saying that your skin gets better with age but your physique (muscles, body composition) does. Bodybuilding and fitness is thus not a skin complexion competition nor a face competition. Arnold got out of bodybuilding at a young age and even if he had the best genetics in the world it has nothing to do with my point. Even Arnold is subject to the same laws as everybody else. There were far fewer people in the world when he was competing and the level of competition was thus much lower b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 02:06 PM |
| -5 | The question you never want to hear as a young man or at any ageThat's not the point although I understand how it could be embarrassing. You are reading between the lines and creating a bit of an ad hominem almost. The point is that it does not matter what you say in various phases of your life because by the time your brain registers that question you already know that she has put you in the betabux or wholly unattractive category. That is my experience over many years of life giving different answers to very different women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 01:40 PM |
| -2 | The question you never want to hear as a young man or at any ageThat's fine. I would recommend not asking what a man does very quickly though. And it's not for the smart ass reasons some have suggested here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 01:38 PM |
| -3 | The question you never want to hear as a young man or at any ageI recall instances where the woman already looked disgusted upon asking that. I remember another situation where I met a woman in a club and before she asked that she was telling me about hot guys she saw in a bus. It's not blatant disrespect but it's a bad sign is all I'm saying. Sex should come before dating. Dating prior to sex is betabucks. She should make the man feel desirable first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 01:30 PM |
| -9 | The question you never want to hear as a young man or at any ageThat's funny. Do you see any contradiction in somebody asking that question and then putting zero effort into reciprocating and thereby revealing that interest to have been fake? I just explained such a situation to you in my opening post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 01:24 PM |
| -15 | The question you never want to hear as a young man or at any ageIt's normal but it's basically saying "You're not too attractive but if you are a high status professional I'll give you a chance maybe". For many people their work is just a burden that they don't want to mention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 01:12 PM |
| 2 | Most college aged women do not want 30+ year old menI appreciate your experience. The average age of Mr. Olympia winner is 34. Bench press world records have been set by men in their mid 30's and most discus throwing champions tend to peak in their early 30's. You may be smart but never took bodybuilding that seriously if you peaked in your early 20's which is unheard of for serious bodybuilders. You need to get at least into your late 20's for peak strength which is somewhat correlated with physique and nobody loses knowledge with age. Knowledge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 07:12 AM |
| – | Do women reap most of the benefits of a relationship being single?What I'm saying is that men outside of relationships rarely get any positive gendered experiences. If a woman feels undesired, she can just upload some sloppy photo on NSFW-Subreddit and will get endless compliments or she can tell a man on Tinder to bring her pizza and his body. Men cannot even expect this in relationships (overflowing compliments that are not rationed like food in North Korea) but at least they get access to a woman's body which is better than nothing. There is the "women are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 07:08 AM |
| – | Do women reap most of the benefits of a relationship being single?That's purely by choice. Relationship does not necessarily entail living with someone and cooking and cleaning for them. It is also been researched and shown that women make most of the purchasing decisions in such households. How many times does the man get some wild idea about changing the carpets and interior decoration and then the woman has to do the work on that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 07:01 AM |
| – | Do women reap most of the benefits of a relationship being single?Let me extend my point: I did a certain hobby for six years. I was often the only man in that social circle. Exactly one woman liked my looks and treated me very well. Everyone else was lukewarm and some hated my guts. As I got to know some of the people better I added some of these women as friends on social media and they quickly accepted. As I mingled in the same social circle I hoped someone would potentially put the good word out, introduce me to people or invite me to events. I did not onl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 06:59 AM |
| 1 | Should a woman who has lost significant amounts of weight give men who did not want her a chance after weight loss?I think that both can be right at the same time. Let's say that the woman has such good genetics that obesity does not put her in the wholly unattractive category so the guy considers dating her still. Now he still has to deal with the following things: -her getting exhausted and having pains if they ever want to exercise together or do anything physically demanding -her smelling bad more readily -sexual positions and cuddling being more awkward -having to pussyfoot or be careful not to get into… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/23 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Should a woman who has lost significant amounts of weight give men who did not want her a chance after weight loss?We can always speculate about how unhealthy some fit looking person is until the cows come home. In the real world we have to go by the information at hand. Being fat is a reflection of poor mental health and being fat leads to a large number of conditions over time. In theory breeding with a fat person will also predispose the child into developing poor lifestyle habits. Childhood diabetes or some congenital heart disease can be self-limiting...obesity affects every cell of the body and is also… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/23 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Most college aged women do not want 30+ year old menThere is always scarcity for most men. What changes is the type of scarcity and hope you have. Lots of men in their early 20's believe women to be God on earth and are chronically intimidated by them. They are also very insecure about their own bodies and prone to crumble under all kinds of ego threats. They also often have deficits in hygiene, diet and social skills that takes time to fix. Whereas men in their 30's are often bald, obviously have a rougher skin texture, may be more tired and in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/23 08:19 PM |
| 2 | Why are so many men not willing to properly move on from women? (Serious question)I have no proof but I believe the following are factors: -Women experience a more rapid and drastic decline in fertility than men. It would make sense for this decline to be correlated with declining romantic and sexual interest in men -Women can use one night stands or artificial insemination to get pregnant without having the skills to manage an adult relationship so childlesness is not linked to relationships like it is for men -Women may perceive that things are going well as long as they ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/23 10:06 AM |
| 10 | Men who are slayers use red pill tactics (even without knowing Bout TRP)I cannot believe you did not bother to mention his: -height -hair line -body fat -race -facial looks None of this makes any difference without accounting for that. This is basic stuff bro. You cannot get away with that in 2023. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/23 09:32 AM |
| 26 | Women are actively repelled by genuinely kind men no matter how attractive they are, and rather consistently go for toxic men who mistreat them. This entire issue has been hijacked and obfuscated by them fabricating this bullshit “nice guy” narrative.A variation of the just world fallacy. Since she does not feel like entertaining him, she figures there must be something wrong with him as a person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/23 10:16 PM |
| 0 | Most young men are red pilledYou installed cameras in people's bedrooms? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/23 08:08 PM |
| 5 | Most young men are red pilledI think that young guys who read about self-improvement and politics forget what the 'red pill' is. I know I have forgotten a long time ago. The 'red pill' mostly exists as a term of derision used by those who are afraid of men being misogynist. But basically I see the red pill as a call to optimism and agency which is largely good. It also teaches you that conventional beliefs and truths are to be questioned. The black pill I believe is embedded within the red pill; circumstances of birth matte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/23 08:07 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Can you get why some men have a problem being initially seen as "relationship material" vs being "for fun"?I remember being only in my late 20's (I'm late 30's now) and talking to a woman in a karaoke bar. We sang a bit and I politely asked if she would like to continue talking in day time. She said that she's not in the mood for a relationship. I sometimes return to that moment and wonder what would have happened if I had said "Who said anything about a relationship?" but it feels like she automatically put me in that category of 'guys who need to work for the sex'. People did not know about chads a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/23 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Has Red Pill Advice Worked at all?It has not for me. It's still better to be active than not or put in a different way the fact that you can still afford to be active is a positive sign. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/23 05:24 PM |
| 2 | Guy approaches young woman in a viral video, gets rejected with news headlines calling him a "creep"" Most women know if some rando approaches them, it’s because he lacks a social sphere or the ability to compete with other men in social environments. " I doubt if they "know" that. They may dislike 'randos' and then make up such a story to justify their distaste for him. Not every man wants to pick up dancing only to be able to talk to a woman. BTW almost all men lack the ability to compete in social environments such as night clubs or Tinder if chads are around. So that does not mean anything… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/23 05:18 PM |
| 2 | Do women use the adjectives "creepy" "weirdo" "stalker" etc., as synonymous of "unattractive"?The creepy thing is sort of like an invisible fence that men learn to respect like an elephant tied to a pole by a flimsy piece of string that the elephant could easily tear off but is conditioned not to do that. When girls reach puberty they become aware of boys' interest in them and they have to fumble and come up with some kind of tools to protect their privacy and dignity and calling boys perverts and creeps is a strategy that boys raised in polite society will usually react to by withdrawin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/23 04:59 PM |
| 0 | Guy approaches young woman in a viral video, gets rejected with news headlines calling him a "creep"Western culture as it works now gives men the freedom to approach and women can be with as many men as they want in a single day. Some cultures use arranged marriages and the men are walking around with a chip on their shoulder read to beat up any man who looks at their female relative for too long. There is no 'game' in shithole countries unless you want to put your life at risk and thus there is no casual 'harassment' of women either. Over the last 20 years though women have been able to explo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/23 04:11 PM |
| 2 | Guys, it’s actually weird to be willing to sleep with any woman that is attractiveI think the minimum height for maximum female attractiveness nowadays at least 5'4. Women don't want short sons. Neither do men. Women's genetics matter too. I'm incel but if I had a mate I would want her to be able to ward off threats or defend herself to some extent and a midget would find that harder to do (no offense to people of very short stature). Taller women just like taller men tend to be leaders. I'm not saying if it's right or not but it's ridiculous to think that women's height does… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/23 03:35 PM |
| 2 | Guys, it’s actually weird to be willing to sleep with any woman that is attractivePeople's minds are affected by all kinds of unsavory stuff. There's evidence that social workers will make differing rulings or decisions regarding their clients depending on their blood glucose level (AKA if they have recently eaten or not). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/23 09:08 AM |
| 3 | Guys, it’s actually weird to be willing to sleep with any woman that is attractive5'2 is pretty short for a woman outside of Asia. Dutch women average 5'7 and that's with old women pulling the numbers down. In her day she may have been a super hottie but she is a bit short to be a Stacy nowadays even if she got her youth back via magic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/23 09:05 AM |
| 1 | Do women find it very challenging to hear about men's struggle?This thread is about men's sexual struggle. Some of it intersects with other problems but there's a different time and place for that. If you don't agree with that then have fun fighting imaginary enemies...despite my best efforts in the opening I cannot prevent people from doing that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/23 11:47 AM |
| 1 | Do women find it very challenging to hear about men's struggle?As I understand it you're trying to explain why women can be cold and unappreciative of men's troubles. The explanation should not be confused with a justification. It ultimately does not matter what the explanation is...certainly not when it's not fixable. By that logic we should just throw menopausal women in the trash or any hot infertile young woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/23 11:44 AM |
| 0 | I don't think average men get laid that much actuallyTyrone = black chad | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/23 06:58 AM |
| 1 | Do women find it very challenging to hear about men's struggle?OK. It sounds like you're intentionally using pejorative language to make light of their experience while using dignified language about reproduction. You can tarnish anything with language. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/23 07:51 PM |
| 12 | Men on this sub need to understand that actually being attractive to women is more important than finding the right place to approach.There is no perfect moment...just perfect genetics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/23 04:39 PM |
| 1 | Are straight women really qualified to give advice on how to date straight women?I read that dating as a practice evolved in the early 20st century as a spin-off from prostitution. A date used to mean meeting a prostitute and soon after it spread to mean the widely understood practice of a man and a woman mingling together in public. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/23 03:50 PM |
| 3 | If men are so desperate for sex and a relationship, it makes no sense that half of them never ask women outIt's kind of complex but I would say that there are types of men: -those who settle for sex post-jestermaxxing and can be quite stoic about things while still being painfully realistic about their lot in the market; these men do not expect to be seen as sexy; they are just hungry for the opportunity have access to sex which is the same as getting sex. Women and chads do not 'get' sex when the stars are aligned but the old school thing was for men to get 'lucky' which may have entailed seller's r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/23 03:08 PM |
| 2 | Do women find it very challenging to hear about men's struggle?That's fair IMO. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/23 12:19 PM |
| -1 | Do women find it very challenging to hear about men's struggle?" Men like to think this, but I literally date SOF " Unfalsifiable and unrelated but OK. " it’s a male fantasy for most men to think that they can mount a defense of the homeland with a plucky band of freedom fighters like themselves " That's not the point. The point is that when men align their powers as a group they have some amount of agency as to their destiny and they do not just fall into the hands of the enemy without a fight whether we're talking about the threat of human enemies or peri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/23 09:16 AM |
| 0 | Do women find it very challenging to hear about men's struggle?By "interested" do you mean sexually interested? A lot of men already believe that it's over for them and arguably for some of them it is so they have nothing to lose by not caring. Ultimately men can sustain themselves in a society in crisis far better than women so it seems that in the long run women really shoot themselves in the foot with a high powered gun if they expect asymmetrical power relations of men paying lip service to women's problems with no reciprocity. A life without sex and af… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/23 07:51 AM |
| 1 | Do women find it very challenging to hear about men's struggle?If you go to actual incel forums it's a lot more varied than that. The thing about men having been privileged in the past is possibly the biggest lie in popular history and sociology. It's an official lie that you need to repeat to be accepted into polite society. For men it's like an intellectual peacock's tail where you need to say things that make you weaker or dumber to prove your strength. This selective citing of history always sidesteps the fact that men were responsible for their wives' … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/23 07:38 AM |
| 0 | Do women find it very challenging to hear about men's struggle?You could have stopped writing at "about a struggle" (your second paragraph). I suppose I could have been more specific in my opening. Obviously it's not just about women being advantaged but a small minority of men possibly being the only men who experience real desire. My gym analogy is problematic in that very strongly built women are arguably even more rare than chads. In any case a lot of women responding to me have reinforced my point by making it all about themselves and adding their own … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/23 07:06 AM |
| 2 | Do women find it very challenging to hear about men's struggle?Who is crazy? People who use Reddit? Saying that those challenges are limited to random people on the internet is like saying that only people on the internet suffer from hemorrhoids. I have never seen anyone on the street loudly talking about their hemorrhoids, erectile dysfunction or overt menstrual discharge so by that logic only people online suffer from those problems. There's this thing about people wanting to keep face. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Do women find it very challenging to hear about men's struggle?You are making the discussion about women which kind of reinforces my starting point. Your last paragraph is the most telling and you could have simply said just that. The fact that you can afford to be that arrogant in the first place also casts doubt on your statement about women having it hard. You are also essentializing men's struggle as something natural (naturalistic fallacy) and even desirable. I have seen the same pseudoscientific in some form or the other many times. "It takes only X m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 06:28 PM |
| 2 | Do women find it very challenging to hear about men's struggle?I'm not saying all women are like that. Some are great but many have this knee jerk reaction of going on the defensive right away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 04:49 PM |
| -1 | Do women find it very challenging to hear about men's struggle?Two wrongs make a right seems to be your mode of operation. I suppose the best you could do is just make yourself unavailable so you don't have to go out of your way to hurt or disappoint people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 04:48 PM |
| 5 | Do women find it very challenging to hear about men's struggle?It seems we do not disagree though you keep adding these descriptions of men that are not inherently included in my analysis. I suppose you're not trying to make a strawman out of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 04:46 PM |
| 4 | I don't think average men get laid that much actuallyBeen lifting in some form all my adult life. I've had life altering injuries but in any case it has provided my life with rhythm and a base of confidence from which to venture out and try other things so it's been quite priceless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 04:24 PM |
| 4 | Do women find it very challenging to hear about men's struggle?Obviously being heard does not solve the problem of there not being a third sex that showers men with free attention the same way men shower women with free attention. Like the problem of mortality it's something that we cannot remove; just cope with. There are women who cope with their lack of physical strength by trying to rationalize that men are not really better at sports. It's not nearly as frequent because being great at sports is not a basic human need but it's a functional analogy. It's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 04:05 PM |
| 6 | Do women find it very challenging to hear about men's struggle?They don't expend the energy to complain but I've been reading female dominated forums for years. When a guy describes his solitude he gets tons of thumbs down and derogatory comments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 03:50 PM |
| 3 | I don't think average men get laid that much actuallyThat's good chadvice. I'm going to carry a shower with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 03:30 PM |
| 1 | High school and university are the best times in life to meet the opposite sex" Women's attraction works differently from most guys. " I disagree. I would say women's motivation works differently. Nobody is shunning women who want to jestermaxx for men but they almost never do. It's not that women are not just as shallow as men (they are more so) but men will jestermaxx whereas women won't. Since women refuse to jestermaxx they conclude that men are shallow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 03:20 PM |
| 5 | We hear "women are the gatekeepers of sex while men are the gatekeepers of relationships." Is this true anymore?Women are the gatekeepers of everything. Chads can negotiate on their terms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 01:51 PM |
| 4 | Would you be willing to take on the dirty jobs men do?Yes when we notice how society is not truly skewed in favor of men we say that it's not like women did that and when women have privileges and rights it's the accomplishment of feminism right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 01:28 PM |
| 0 | People REALLY underestimate Party Culture!Women associate having fun with sex whereas for men sex is the fun. If a woman is in the state of having fun then she can supposedly be led down the path of sex much more easily so that's how parties can benefit men. Chad does not need them because he is the party. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 09:54 AM |
| – | Redpill ideology is just legitimizing manipulationRed pill is not an official teaching with rules and regulations. Lying can be a form of manipulation but not all manipulation is lying. Manipulation means to influence someone's opinion. I have watched thousands of black, blue and red pill videos on YouTube over the years and never have I seen someone advocate lying like that outside of forums that are not linked to the pills at all. The crassest, most brutal stuff regarding dating I heard was from listening to Tom Leykis clips in the 00's. He d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 09:51 AM |
| 41 | I don't think average men get laid that much actuallyI'm a 38 year old gymmaxxed virgin. Here's my friend group: -Guy in his early 30's, a bit short, good education and job, possibly virgin, obese, jokingly simps for every female -Guy in his late 30's, was married once, six feet, has gone years without sex but has had relationships and lots of sexless dating with women he barely finds attractive -Guy pushing 30, short, party animal type, vocational education, has had drunken sex here and there My closest friend: -Has gone years without intercourse… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/23 09:39 AM |
| 6 | Women who are "done with shitty men" have helped create a whole new class of fuckboys by having "situationships" with a minority of menThe thing is that it's almost impossible for a man to "use" a woman unless she is mentally retarded or something. What rather happens is that the woman does not get to enjoy the ride all the way to the end but she does get some perks and fascination that is not all in her head. Guys build stuff up in their head and live out their fantasies with their hand under the sheets at night because some girl smiled at them whereas women get to have steamy sex with male models and they feel amazing based o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 09:08 PM |
| 1 | Do men's options really go up with age and women's options drop ? I don't know if that's true.As I said or implied you will get nothing in your 20's if you don't take action and even then nothing is guaranteed. You only become cognizant of expectations once you start approaching and if the woman likes your looks her first question is not going to be about your job. Women who ask you about your job do not find you attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 07:42 AM |
| 1 | Do men's options really go up with age and women's options drop ? I don't know if that's true.What I'm saying is that once you reach the bottom you cannot break through it so you're insulated against any further descent into misery; the only way is up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 05:08 AM |
| 2 | Do men's options really go up with age and women's options drop ? I don't know if that's true.Red pill is a lot of cope but there is a certain seed of truth to it. If you spent your entire 20's as a virgin there is no way you can do worse in your 30's. You may be even more unattractive but given your life experience and any accomplishments to your name you will take more action, take life less seriously (in a good way) and take more initiative so even if you're late into the game at least you're in the game and taking initiative instead of just being a wall flower. Even if you still get … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 09:29 PM |
| 1 | What’s a good OLD vs. IRL dating strategy for normie men vs. non-normie men?Here's a thing a lot of people are not talking about. You say "most women don't work like that". I call BS. Most women do work like that if she's attracted to the image of the man but what helps is that women have many reasons to get intimate with a man whereas men only have one reason to get intimate with a woman. So a woman always knows herself to be somewhat attractive if she is approached but most guys would rather not know what their girlfriend thinks about him because he might be crushed b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 07:09 PM |
| – | CMV Since most men lie about they're sexual success, we dont really feel the issues with dating which we have.Lying is pathetic but it's not like any of them are taking women away from you. You seem a bit too bothered by them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 02:48 PM |
| 5 | Dating is naturally an intense competition for menWhat I'm saying is that you can do things that are expected to increase your chances of being perceived as charismatic but ultimately it's in the hands of other people to give you that status or not. The gains are not linear and the results of your efforts may be paradoxical. I'm not saying that only good looking people can be perceived as charismatic but what I'm saying is that some people owing to their circumstances of birth will never be considered consistently charismatic no matter what the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 10:51 AM |
| 4 | Dating is naturally an intense competition for menHe is confusing outcomes with processes though. "Charismatic" is the value people give to you because of your looks, speaking or some other reason. You can take all the acting classes in the world and still not be perceived as charismatic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 10:26 AM |
| 3 | Dating is naturally an intense competition for men>tall >what it ook to get to that point Eat food as a child and sleep at night. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 07:12 AM |
| – | How do you define “Chad”I suppose I would not know if adjectives such as 'special' or 'exceptional' have statistical correlates. You implied men can bench press 185 pounds if they work on it and I agree. The average 5'10 guy can also become six feet through surgery in combination with yoga or the like which may also help a tiny bit. But the 5'10 guy cannot become 6'4 through surgery or at least it would look very disproportionate. The height statistics are affected by old and middle-aged men who are the majority in man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 07:05 AM |
| 1 | How do you define “Chad”Either way no woman is looking for a man who is barely 'above average' by a hair. Let's say the average bench press weight for untrained men is 180 pounds. Would you be impressed with 185 pounds? I think not. Women may settle for a guy with barely average height, average penis etc. but it's not what they are day dreaming about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 08:41 PM |
| 2 | How do you define “Chad”" ultimately one either gets what they want, or they don’t." Profound. If you try real hard you'll either fail or you don't fail. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 07:19 AM |
| 1 | How do you define “Chad”Six pack abs are impressive. 6 inch penis is average for whites and blacks and is not going to impress anyone any more than being 6'0 flat in height. That's average height in a number of countries. Average = not Chad. Now can a 6 inch plus 6'0 guy be a Chad? Yes. He just needs to have the face of a young Brad Pitt, Henry Cavill or who have you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 07:18 AM |
| 1 | Do average men have situationships?"to fuck" "and maybe get some intimacy" You kind of blew your load there early on. It does not get much more intimate than sex or can you please elaborate how you separate sex from intimacy? I hate it when people use sloppy language. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 06:53 AM |
| 1 | This video proves what a lot of guys complain about is real.I agree that it's not reflective in the sense that the average woman does not publicize the attention she's getting. In the age of the social media though the average woman can get all the things I mentioned and in a similar vein the average guy has to use social media to compete. The average guy has to provide low level value to a number of women before he gets anything back and he does this because everyone is online and he needs to build up networks to find a girlfriend. For example the avera… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 06:41 AM |
| 0 | This video proves what a lot of guys complain about is real.It does not matter if they are looking for sex or not. What matters is that she's going to get free attention with no expectation of reciprocity for decades. Any guy that comes to her life is going to have to compete with that. There will naturally be jealousy and she will constantly be bombarded with options. Statistically speaking she is not going to sleep with or even send nudes to any of the guys that are giving her: -free compliments -free advice -free job offers and hobby counseling -liste… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/23 10:14 PM |
| 1 | Guy approaches young woman in a viral video, gets rejected with news headlines calling him a "creep"So what makes them creepy? If the act of waiting outside of high schools is known to be creepy in itself, you would not have to add that word there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/23 06:29 PM |
| 1 | Guy approaches young woman in a viral video, gets rejected with news headlines calling him a "creep"All I know is she is supposedly an adult. I don't care how old he is because it does not matter legally as long as she is not underage. Judging approaches based on age gaps is just judging people based on looks and circumstances of birth. You cannot choose your birth date any more than your hair line, height or penis size. In practice age is basically skin texture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/23 03:57 PM |
| – | CMV: physical attractiveness is the number one determiner of a male's dating market value, not "personality" or "money" or "status"I'm a 38 year old virgin (obviously male) and I'll just say this: Self-improvement may not get you anywhere with women ever. What it's basically good for is that your libido along with other motivators helps to drive you to acquire more experiences, skills and desirable characteristics even if you never end up being sexually desired. Having an old man's brain in a 20 year old body could just make you rot in your prime as you would be looking back on your life instead of carving your place. All o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/23 01:57 PM |
| 0 | Guy approaches young woman in a viral video, gets rejected with news headlines calling him a "creep"He perhaps could have taken the hint a bit earlier but I think it's important that we also try to see things from his POV. He might have gathered a lot of courage to do that approach and that alone explains why he supposedly sounds "drunk" or "high". It feels insincere to sound like an enthusiastic salesman when you approach someone who has the power to reject you. Some like to fake it but many don't. So he sounds borderline apologetic from the start trying to feel his way around and even if he … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/23 01:41 PM |
| 1 | Discussion : Whats the bigger problem, obviously unattractive guys struggling or above average guys now struggling as much as below average guys?Dates are just to entertain the woman. They might massage the guy's ego for a moment and then he'll be even more frustrated. It's not real until she's naked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 10:55 PM |
| 2 | The main reason why women should never make the first moveMaking the first move is the only way to have agency as to whether you get what you want or only that which is offered to you. If he is not attracted to the woman, nothing will happen. He will probably reject her very politely and that's that. He's not going to want sex with someone he does not find attractive regardless of how easy she makes it for him. Women are only attracted to a small number of men and men only possess limited energy for approaching. What this basically means is that the va… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 10:53 PM |
| 3 | Even when it comes to relationships hot guys have this "premium" version of it the average guy just doesn't get to experienceThe biggest difference between chads and average guys is chads get lucky more. Women never get lucky; they just tell you either verbally or non-verbally what counts as proper sexuality and expect you to adjust to that mould. Women are still conflicted about chads as they are embarrassed to be seen having sex with them on film and many women still maintain that women are better looking than chads. Women don't have to cope with this kind of intimate rejection like men who sometimes get to have acc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 10:37 PM |
| 3 | Even when it comes to relationships hot guys have this "premium" version of it the average guy just doesn't get to experienceJust change your genetics bro theory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 10:27 PM |
| 1 | What's wrong with average men?You are speaking of the pre-internet era. Reddit is teaming with men exhibiting their bodies. Where are all the women simping for them? How is the man going to rape through you the screen especially when he only knows your screen name? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 06:02 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Muscle is cheap, and in 2023 women value genuinely rare immutable traits, such as height and faceNo I'm not lost. Women as a whole don't give a shit about having deep discussions like this. See how many black pill, red pill, PUA etc. guys there are holding streams and philosophizing about the nature of women and attraction and see if you can find any women doing the same for men. Women basically just say what they want and expect men to assume the mould. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 06:56 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Muscle is cheap, and in 2023 women value genuinely rare immutable traits, such as height and faceI get it. You came to a male space where men provide peer support, vent and have logical and raw discussions about attraction without feminist filters or double speak and you are offended to find that which you came looking for. Let me know if you'll convince anyone to shy away from describing the real world because you believe that describing the world is making demands towards people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 06:16 PM |
| 3 | Yes, muscles will get you laid.I agree with him. I herniated my discs and grew a diabetic gut from reading T-Nation articles and other bro bullshit. My physique in my late 30's is now better now that I go straight to the muscle and ditched the generic 'bang for buck' lifting advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 04:41 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Muscle is cheap, and in 2023 women value genuinely rare immutable traits, such as height and faceI don't necessarily disagree with you. Muscles are a low hanging fruit that most fail to grasp though and they do wonders for your self-esteem regardless of whether you get female attention or not. They build resilience you need to deal with the various setbacks and hardships of life including your interactions with women that are mostly negative. We don't know what the woman meant with her comment but judging by your text the guy was well built and she did not find it fully congruent. Basically… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 04:20 PM |
| 2 | CMV : Muscle is cheap, and in 2023 women value genuinely rare immutable traits, such as height and faceYou're reading too much into it. Facts might make someone uncomfortable but they are still facts or at least arguments deserving of scrunity and implying that men are being nasty for presenting ideas is a poor way to prevent them from presenting ideas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/23 03:59 PM |
| 2 | Are women's standards too high as a result of porn?" Most of the men in straight porn are on average overweight, middle aged or bald and at best maybe mildly good looking." That may have been the case in the 80's. You can Google 'most famous male porn stars' and you'll see abs, bulking biceps and nobody is in their 50's. " Some do have nice looking equipment I guess...? " You don't have to play dumb. Women are attracted to extremes of height, muscularity and penis size. It's a rarity to see an average penis in porn. Do you think it's a coinciden… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 08:22 PM |
| 2 | Are women's standards too high as a result of porn?If the men "in porn" are unattractive, I shudder to think how unattractive that makes average men. The men I see in porn are frequently built like Greek Gods or at least have nice physiques, occasionally handsome or at least average faces and almost invariably very stunningly large and symmetrical genitals that women want (according to surveys and thousands of years anecdotal evidence going back to the Bible literally). But women love to pretend that they are somehow superior and ethereal beings… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 05:20 PM |
| 0 | What's wrong with average men?" It’s not that women don’t like average men " Not sure about that. I can understand how women would refuse most men because they would not have time to deal with them all and if they are committed to one man then he would naturally be jealous and leave her if she shared herself with every other guy. This however does not explain why women are so reluctant to compliment or otherwise entertain men even when there is no risk of misunderstanding or tangible consequences involved. Women will sooner … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 05:06 PM |
| 22 | Getting Laid a Lot Requires You to be “Creepy”The best 'game' is getting your body fat as low as possible and being smart in the gym; don't herniate your spine with powerlifting or other clownery; go straight to the muscle with careful bodybuilding exercises. | /r/TheRedPill | 16/06/23 10:20 AM |
| -4 | [FIELD REPORT] Made out with 4 hotties and pulled a fine ass hispanic girlSo much strategy and effort...at what point did you get laid? | /r/TheRedPill | 01/05/23 03:08 PM |
| 27 | Do men really age like "wine" (especially past 40)?Balding has nothing to do with taking care of yourself. Your text is solid otherwise but it's embarrassing to confuse genetics with choices. It's almost as obnoxious as saying that "plenty of guys are fat and poorly dressed Asians". Being Asian is not a choice and it hurts your choices of getting a date (as a man) in a 'white' country just like balding. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/04/23 05:12 PM |
| 1 | Need help, desperate 31 yoLifting is good but I politely disagree with your exact lifting advice. First of all your genetics set the ceiling in lifting as in any other athletic pursuit. I wasted a lot of time in my 20's stretching my back and legs to get flexible until I accepted that I can never do the splits because of my genetics. I also spent time in a hospital in my childhood due to some hip injury which may have something to do with it and is basically the same as 'genetics' (immutable). Some guys or even most gu… | /r/TheRedPill | 29/04/23 10:53 AM |
| 0 | My red pill bros, how do I stop being a whiny bitch and start problem-solving whenever I am hit with adversity or difficulty in life? We men are meant to be problem solvers, but a lot of us are sure forgetting how to go on about our problem solving tendencies, anyways, tips and strategies?I don't feel like I'm the one who does not know what I'm talking about. I'm not making assumptions about other people like you. You don't know if I'm a therapist or not but you assume things. Nothing I said was a personal attack but rather a universal observation on the history and structure of degrees and helping professions. "Therapy" has the potential to be useful but like every other profession they will be happy to make a buck even if it does not turn out to be useful. We cannot be too naiv… | /r/TheRedPill | 21/04/23 02:19 PM |
| 4 | My red pill bros, how do I stop being a whiny bitch and start problem-solving whenever I am hit with adversity or difficulty in life? We men are meant to be problem solvers, but a lot of us are sure forgetting how to go on about our problem solving tendencies, anyways, tips and strategies?He might benefit from therapy but it's hard to say that he "needs" it. The world word comes from Greek and means 'healing'. Options for healing are everywhere around us even though that profession cleverly hijacked that word. No patient ever directly benefited from the fact that someone had a degree in some extremely narrow subject that may have nothing to do with your issues. After you get your masters' you are done learning a variety of skills and this is the internet era anyway so there is no… | /r/TheRedPill | 20/04/23 07:27 PM |
| 3 | Proud of myself and shifting focus.I would say you are as useful to your environment as you make people feel. Good looking people make others feel good by showing up. But in any case learning skills does not hurt at all. | /r/TheRedPill | 17/04/23 05:25 PM |
| -1 | The Impending VR Pornpocalypse80% of men...that's exactly the number of men women find ugly and yet you think porn is the problem. Men cannot tighten their belt forever while women wallow comfortably in their own farts having their pick of the litter while red pill men try to talk themselves up as if their internal fantasies make a difference. Porn is entertainment just like the circus acrobat show you saw a day ago. "Dopamine" is the new "satan" for atheists. | /r/TheRedPill | 01/04/23 06:11 AM |
| -2 | The Impending VR PornpocalypseWhether you get laid or not depends on your looks and most men don't have the looks women want. You can patronize, negotiate and blackmail women into putting out but I think that's more pathetic than using technology to enjoy your own body without jestermaxxing, peacocking and lying to yourself that you enjoy being made to feel lower than shit by being rejected over again. If porn satisfies men and leads them not to go into trashy night clubs to waste their money, it's good. Being worried about … | /r/TheRedPill | 31/03/23 10:08 PM |
| -1 | The Impending VR PornpocalypseIf you want to be a christian fundamentalist, just be a christian fundamentalist. That's what they called your beliefs before the red pill crock took off. | /r/TheRedPill | 31/03/23 10:04 PM |
| 1 | No man is ever good enoughSelf-marketing, branding, persuasion etc. is obviously real. I'll concede that. 'Game' in the pick-up sense was a big deal before the Tinder-era. Nowadays we have entered the black pill age and it's been going on for a while. Obviously marketing, advertising and persuasion is going to be partially specific to your field and target market. A police interviewer has a different job than a phone salesman, who in turn differs from a child psychologist. Interpersonal skills are not dead by any means b… | /r/TheRedPill | 16/03/23 03:21 PM |
| 1 | No man is ever good enoughBy 'gamer' I mean someone 'running game'. Not that 'game' exists. Social skills do. It's nice that you have a positive attitude but the part about some unattractive guy taking over with 'game' where a male model has failed just sounds far fetched. It reminds me of the saying how 'size is not important but how you use it'. It's not as if chads cannot have social skills too. | /r/TheRedPill | 15/03/23 07:14 PM |
| 1 | No man is ever good enoughThis post sounds like giga-cope to be honest. So a tall chad says something insecure and then a normie comes in and takes over? The chads get approached and their banal observations are sexy to women. What's gonna happen when the 5'9 gamer says something cringy? Is he so perfect that his 'game' is always on point? | /r/TheRedPill | 15/03/23 03:58 PM |
| -3 | A noob mistake: leaving the self-improvement journey after getting the first high-value womanI get that you're ethnic and going after white women? There's your problem. The races diverged far away from one another and most white women who can afford a white partner will want a white man. They want their children to look like themselves and have a choice of being born with a variety of hair colors other than black. Most men from the Middle-East are also missing the tip of their penis because they were forcefully marked for religious reasons as children. It's a constant reminder of their … | /r/TheRedPill | 07/10/22 04:21 PM |
| 5 | Women live in a neurotic hellYes and no. I like the writing but I think it's mostly about genetics (looks); your looks relative to hers. If you have been pampered because of your looks, you will come across as more fun because of the positive reinforcement and you hold back less. Try being average looking, spreading your energy around believing that your internal knowledge of your accomplishments will carry over to dating and after a while you might feel like a fool for being so extroverted and bubbly. There is evidence tha… | /r/TheRedPill | 20/09/22 06:56 AM |
| 3 | Fucking some other guys girlfriendJust change your age, race, height, frame, hair line, penis size, IQ etc. bro is what it comes down to. Just choose your parents brah. | /r/TheRedPill | 01/06/22 07:31 PM |
| -1 | Fucking some other guys girlfriendThey will monkey branch because most women in their 30's don't want to be the personal nurse of an elderly man years down the line. Maybe if you went for women close to your age they would not leave you so quickly. Relationships with large age differences don't last. | /r/TheRedPill | 01/06/22 07:30 PM |
| 1 | Some Cold Approach ExpectationsI appreciate your views and as I said people are different; there are some who can enjoy that thing but since it does not require real skills or money the fact that most guys are not doing it tells me that it's not about anything more than them being realistic. Me and tons of guys are not afraid of cold approach; we did it just like we did dancing, acting, languages, martial arts and a shit ton of other stuff for a decade or more and we figured out what type of women responds to us since we are … | /r/TheRedPill | 27/05/22 04:44 PM |
| 1 | Some Cold Approach ExpectationsPeople are different. I have for a long time thought that the pick-up thing is for sex addicts. This sounds a bit pejorative and maybe there's a better term but it's the only way I can explain it; that these mens' desire for sex with a strange woman is so high that they are not turned off by all the crap that comes with the game. If you are tall and handsome and have been fed positive feedback all your life, you might be able to shrug off all the rejections and disgust that you STILL evoke in wo… | /r/TheRedPill | 27/05/22 07:04 AM |
| 1 | Some Cold Approach ExpectationsAlso thanks for clarifying about the environment. I'm from Europe (North) and cultural differences affect things a lot. | /r/TheRedPill | 26/05/22 10:52 AM |
| 1 | Some Cold Approach ExpectationsIf you are going to clubs and bars we're talking about a different ball game. They are not called meat markets without reason. When you're in a club, people are more or less stationary and social so you can walk up to a woman and see if she's interested even if she's not giving you eye contact but the eye contact (for two seconds or more) ensures her interest and if you're looking to pull it's best to isolate the women who give you eye contact because if you strike out with a woman who does not … | /r/TheRedPill | 26/05/22 09:46 AM |
| 2 | Some Cold Approach ExpectationsIt's no longer 'ego' for me or a lot of people. We are just smart enough to know that the street is a bad place to get anywhere especially without eye contact. My not being a phone or door to door salesman or a fundraiser on the street who pesters uninterested people and pushes for contracts these people do not want is not about my ego either. It's about my morals and effective use of my energy and time. There are so many challenges in the world where gains are guaranteed if you put in the time … | /r/TheRedPill | 26/05/22 08:04 AM |
| 1 | Some Cold Approach ExpectationsYes you should be able to 'approach' a woman if you are a tourist and need to know where the hotel is. The sexual cold approach makes you tense and takes balls because you know that she wants you dead unless you luck out big time and she likes your looks but once you have done that once there's hardly any more growth left. The thing about social circle "game" is that you don't have to have fool's courage because you already vetted the people and have something to talk about. You can take the con… | /r/TheRedPill | 26/05/22 08:00 AM |
| 2 | Some Cold Approach ExpectationsMy opinion: -Go into quality venues: the women you approach on the street might be insane or criminals. You have no way to vet them. In quality venues you can vet women for quality -Always look for eye contact. No extended eye contact? She wants you dead. Stay out -You lose the fear but you don't get more confident for a good reason because the facts remain the same; she's responding to your genetic looks and you cannot compensate for them on the street. You cannot be truly confident at someth… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/05/22 10:12 AM |
| 12 | How To Start Cold Approaching Women Even Though You're Paralyzed In Fear Of RejectionGo into quality venues if you want to meet women. Women like to vet men for reliability and so should you. You can walk up to a random stranger and eventually regret that you allowed her to know your name. Every person has to walk on those streets so you never know what you are getting yourself into; murderers and sociopaths have to use that same public transport and streets when they are not in prison. When you go to your Japanese class or your salsa dancing society you already know that the wo… | /r/TheRedPill | 14/05/22 05:03 PM |
| 2 | What Comes After Getting Laid?I know but looks is mostly math. Those guys are compensating with money which gives them compliance, not attraction. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/05/22 12:34 PM |
| 2 | Game or Build Value?OK. Understanding is important for relationships. 'Game' as a word has a slightly conniving or cynical connotation. I don't necessarily even disagree with the analogy of seeing life as a game or humans as predictable machines from the perspective of a superior being. The game thing in so far as it is based on sharing regular people's experiences can be very useful; "this happened to me and I interpret it like this". Experiental knowledge is certainly very useful. Where the game thing can go badl… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/04/22 10:06 AM |
| 1 | Game or Build Value?I appreciate your points. It's hard to articulate my argument because 'game' does not have a rule book or official guidelines. It's just a bunch of random guys saying things. Now with that said I think that the game stuff is mostly about one night stands and shallow relationships where you are approaching women who are unimpressed with your looks. This advice is useful to hype up sex addicts and the like who want to conquer women at any cost. If the woman likes you, you don't need tactics or can… | /r/TheRedPill | 29/04/22 07:56 PM |
| 4 | Game or Build Value?You learn social skills by leading an active lifestyle...and an active lifestyle builds 'value'. I'm not sure anyone should learn 'game' other than learning social skills. It seems to me that some of this game stuff is subtly misogynistic beliefs and entertaining a certain type of personality that will repel some women and attract others. I may be wrong and maybe 'game' and the people advocating it are not the same thing but I would assume that the men who advocate game as gurus are allowing the… | /r/TheRedPill | 29/04/22 06:28 PM |
| 2 | After 4 years of being TRP-aware, I finally pulled the trigger and did my first cold approach. Most liberating feeling ever.Do it for a while if you enjoy it. But with time I hope you'll move on to more prestigious and quantifiable ways to build frame and confidence like dancing, martial arts, foreign languages, singing, impro classes etc. Stuff you can add into your CV while meeting women. | /r/TheRedPill | 28/04/22 10:52 PM |
| 2 | After 4 years of being TRP-aware, I finally pulled the trigger and did my first cold approach. Most liberating feeling ever.You may not be a fan of nightclubs but there are bars and pubs and hobbies too. And you may not like night clubs but do you really like stopping random women on the street? Walking on the street is free but it's much easier to look for eye contact and start a conversation in a club. Without extended eye contact you have nothing. It's impressive and brave that you can go after women who give you zero eye contact but it can be very draining because 99% of the time they don't want to have anything … | /r/TheRedPill | 28/04/22 09:39 PM |
| 0 | the red pill absolutely worksSounds like you have good looks genetics. I don't see any 'game' (social skills) here. Just you being a dick and getting attention from some women. Being a prick is something that young guys and even women resort to when they are very young and have not figured themselves out yet. They do it to protect themselves from hurt. | /r/TheRedPill | 17/04/22 10:56 AM |
| 1 | LTRs are hard-mode, Monkey-Branching is realJust be the prize bro. What if that other guy was simply more attractive to her? I find that a more likely explanation. | /r/TheRedPill | 15/03/22 07:57 PM |
| 9 | The Classic "Theory" of Alpha F's, Beta Buxx Explained In Depth, With Studies. And Why "Attracting" Women With Your Money, Is The Worst Possible Thing You Can Do.In a neutral context where you don't know much about the person it's 100% looks. If the woman hates your looks, you won't get your foot in the door to tell her about your guitar stardom. | /r/TheRedPill | 20/02/22 09:36 PM |
| 12 | The Classic "Theory" of Alpha F's, Beta Buxx Explained In Depth, With Studies. And Why "Attracting" Women With Your Money, Is The Worst Possible Thing You Can Do.In many cases, the guy at the top of the food chain has good looks, which has helped him greatly with his career all the way from kindergarten when the teachers treated him better. Look at Donald Trump; he's really tall for a man his generation and Biden is definitely tallish for his generation. Also game = social skills. We need to stop saying "game" like it's some magical Chinese art. | /r/TheRedPill | 20/02/22 09:33 PM |
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