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That's what we want you guys to be like. https://i.imgur.com/vbqR39o.jpg
/r/MensRights23/07/19 05:49 AM
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Being nice and agreeable was the way things were done for decades. That's how we got to today. You don't win the useful idiots over by placating them. There's only two options, and shaming them into keeping their heads down is the nicer option. It's better than the gaslighting and manipulation that got them there in the first place.
/r/MensRights23/07/19 05:43 AM
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I'm saying the law is written that way in a lot of places, making the whole process of collecting official crime statistics on rape a complete farce.
/r/PussyPassDenied17/05/19 08:16 PM
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Males constituted 98.9% of those arrested for forcible rape. That's a surprisingly low number when the definition of rape basically requires the rapist penetrate the victim.
/r/PussyPassDenied17/05/19 06:32 AM
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Who murdered all those men? Why didn't you go a step further and include race in here?
/r/PussyPassDenied17/05/19 06:29 AM
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I'm tired of both sexes trying to out-victim each other. My favorite meme is how Reddit loves "both sides" when their side is getting attacked.
/r/PussyPassDenied17/05/19 06:28 AM
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And I'm sure they'll extend the same courtesy to you.
/r/MensRights17/05/19 01:10 AM
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Well it's a good thing you'll be perfectly okay as discrimination and hatred towards certain groups is not only normalized, but celebrated.
/r/MensRights17/05/19 12:41 AM
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The confrontational style of argument unnecessarily rude tweets The phrasing is important. They stand by the argument, they just wish they hadn't said it quite so rudely because faux-politeness is part of how they get away with being human garbage.
/r/MensRights16/05/19 08:54 PM
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Stop enabling concern trolls.
/r/MensRights28/04/19 10:00 PM
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It's pretty straightforward, really. "Lived experiences" are valuable and it's of vital importance that we share them. Those experiences have deep and meaningful insights into life, especially femininity and masculinity. It's just that women, as people, have "lived experiences," while men, as objects, do not. Ms. Orenstein, like most writers of her type, is a narcissist who is unable to view men as human beings. Men are tools, and their only purpose is to be valuable to her. Intellectually, she …
/r/MensRights25/02/19 01:37 PM
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Hey, now we're getting sophisticated. We reached the stage where you attempt to take control over the contextual landscape! I never said you were bad for not sharing my opinion Unless you’re the kind of person they used as a bad example in the ad and are having to confront some uncomfortable truths about how most people feel about your behavior There's the part where I'm told that the thing you said isn't actually what you said. If I were obsessively trying to give you the benefit of the doubt (…
/r/MensRights21/01/19 05:12 AM
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If it was a personal attack, it would be because I was guilty of the things it calls out. Unless you’re just trying to deny that some men are guilty of those bad behaviors and they don’t need to be corrected? There's the motte and bailey. You've hot swapped "people who disagree with my position are bad" with "some people are bad and the ad shows it." Whether or not some people are bad has nothing to do with whether or not I'm bad for not sharing your opinion.
/r/MensRights21/01/19 04:27 AM
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It’s not an argument in bad faith, it’s just one that you disagree with Unless you’re the kind of person they used as a bad example in the ad and are having to confront some uncomfortable truths about how most people feel about your behavior "I'm not arguing in bad faith, but if you don't believe what I believe, you're probably a bad person." It's not good that I figured this was coming from the moment I read "genuinely curious."
/r/MensRights21/01/19 03:02 AM
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Oh, right, totally forgot that part where you knew my own thoughts better than me, random internet person. “Attack on all men” and all that bullshit. but this sub seems real butthurt about it Yeah, I think I hit the nail on the head. A genuine question begins with the assumption that you might actually receive a valid answer. A genuine discussion assumes that there might be something to be gained by having the discussion. You can't possibly believe we're butthurt retards and also that we have so…
/r/MensRights21/01/19 02:02 AM
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I’m genuinely curious No, you're not, because everyone who has had a problem with the ad has been trying to spoonfeed it to your kind since it came out, and all any of us have ever gotten in return is having it spit back in our faces. If you want to know, feel free to look at any of the comments above yours, or any of the comments in any other post on it, on this sub or any other.
/r/MensRights21/01/19 01:15 AM
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Pretty sure she's tweeted more today than I did in all of 2018.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/01/19 06:40 AM
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It's their job, and it's an important job. Right up until they make a joke about pronouns or teach their dog to do the Nazi salute. All the sudden, I don't hear a lot about the importance of comedy from people with certain political ideologies.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/01/19 06:37 AM
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Where exactly are these petitions and protests? Who is doing them? Are there any significant LGBT figures or communities doing anything? How about whens somebody brings it up on /r/lgbt and is subsequently downvoted and deleted? That's a pretty large LGBT forum, but, they don't seem to be talking about it at all otherwise. I can find examples of any discussion of it being removed and it being handwaved away, but I'm really struggling to find any real push back against this. Both ABC and CNBC pro…
/r/MensRights25/12/18 02:25 AM
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Normally I wouldn't agree, but in the case of Wikipedia, it's true. It's designed in such a way that dedicated, pseudo-intellectual activists can easily take control of pages. Unless you're willing to become some Wikipedia Warrior and spend all day, every day learning how to exploit the system and sitting on controversial topics, it's impossible to fix. Fixing Wikipedia is just not worth dedicating your life to.
/r/MensRights24/12/18 06:27 AM
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Yannow, I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you had a reason for opposing this other than that you really like the Democratic Party and are just butthurt somebody is pointing out specific examples of their anti-male slant...but I can't. These are specific examples. Things that have actually been said by Democrats (and their associates), as part of their political platform, which is anti-male. If you're against misandry, you should have no reason whatsoever calling it wha…
/r/MensRights04/12/18 11:02 AM
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"Destroying straight white men" is hysterical unless you have some evidence The fact that she fired a bunch of straight white men because she felt that the company was too straight, white, and male. These are her words and actions. If that doesn't convince you, there is literally nothing that will. You would be pulling out this "muh ruling class" horseshit no matter what she did. It's willful ignorance fueled by actual hatred. Don't bother me with this 3-day late shit if this is all you've got t…
/r/MensRights17/11/18 08:55 AM
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not necessarily the men. It is understood that, shortly after the conference the group of men went to JWT’s HR department to express their reservations about what this meant for their career prospects. Just days later, they were told that they were being made redundant. It's absolutely about destroying white men. They're destroying the reputation of an institution being white and male by firing white male employees because they are white men. She told you what she was going to do and she did it.…
/r/MensRights13/11/18 02:17 PM
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Frankly, I'm surprised that comment made it past /r/bestof's automod settings. There's a rather high number of comments that get immediately removed and never manually approved.
/r/MensRights10/11/18 11:18 AM
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Naturally, you managed to find something in this thread to be offended over that isn't the significant disadvantage we put on white men in academia. Good work!
/r/MensRights09/11/18 07:06 AM
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She’s apologized. Oh please.
/r/MensRights03/11/18 04:20 AM
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Who the fuck else could you possibly blame? The animal rights activists?
/r/MensRights31/10/18 07:13 AM
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Not so much a cybersquat is it is an unholy amalgamation. There's not a lot of gender politics-agnostic Marxism anymore. Through intersectionality, all social justice is under one umbrella, and it's all in a Marxist context. That means men are part of the gender ruling class the same way rich people are part of the capitalist ruling class. The most obvious example of this is how they define sexism as being impossible for men to experience. The reason being that sexism is oppression, men are part…
/r/MensRights30/10/18 09:06 AM
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I love how the Peterson hate has basically been reduced to this. The "hates trans people" thing didn't catch on, the "supports workplace harassment" thing didn't catch on, the "advocates state-enforced rape" thing didn't catch on. What's gonna be next after the whole "literal cult" thing?
/r/MensRights29/10/18 01:14 PM
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The problem isn't that there was unethical stuff on TRP, it's that the opponents of the MRM say the exact same things about the MRM as they did about TRP, regardless of the truth. The standard for whether or not something is bad, for most people, is if they hear it enough from other sources, even if those sources are random internet commenters who heard it from somebody else, who heard it from somebody else ad infinitum. It doesn't matter whether or not a "bad thing" actually has anything bad in…
/r/MensRights29/10/18 02:09 AM
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The formatting of this comment is going to be kind of janky since it's commentary on phrasing and definitions. Sorry about that. I've seen this comment recently in defense of "believe women." You'll find it in that thread as the top non-mod response. It goes something like: It doesn't literally mean "believe all women no matter what," it means "perform an investigation and take it seriously." "Believe women" as a phrase literally means believe women, but when the phrase is being criticized, the …
/r/MensRights16/10/18 04:58 AM
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Yes, I remember. That doesn't actually preclude it from having been done intentionally for political weaponization.
/r/MensRights13/10/18 11:37 AM
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democratic witch hunts What, you mean supposedly knowing about the attempted rape accusation weeks before the hearings, but waiting until the most politically convenient moment to pull them out? Nah, I'm sure that was all coincidence and a breakdown of communication.
/r/MensRights13/10/18 11:01 AM
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The WHY of the thing is important; why do men choose those jobs? I'm not advocating for any legal changes surrounding this choice, merely an exploration of why men choose these jobs. I mean, sure, fine. Now why don't we have this same reaction when women, collectively, work fewer hours in cushy desk jobs and obviously receive less pay for it? Why do we have such a laser focus on a repeatedly debunked wage gap and virtually no mainstream attention on the sometimes literal fact that our civilizati…
/r/MensRights13/10/18 10:48 AM
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No. It's at 0 points, and /r/bestof regularly removes comments that don't toe the line. Most of the remaining comments are about how shit the post is.
/r/MensRights13/10/18 12:50 AM
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I believe it would be called "rape apologia."
/r/MensRights02/10/18 01:25 AM
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A flying leap is unreasonable to expect. Not when your country is supposed to be a bastion of equality and fairness.
/r/MensRights02/10/18 01:24 AM
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I think that Twitch is a bad example, and if you look at why, it may be applicable to other areas. The problem isn't that women can only succeed at Twitch by flaunting their sexuality, the problem is that there are virtually no female streamers on par with their male counterparts in their respective "genres" outside of titty streams, which men will never succeed in. For example, let's look at the leaderboards for one of the most popular speedrunning games, Ocarina of Time. In the 100% category, …
/r/MensRights01/10/18 12:55 PM
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I hope nobody is surprised. We're talking about the same people always whining and bitching about "fragile white manbaby tears" or some variation thereof. They regularly flood popular posts here and try to convince you that they really do care about men, and that "toxic masculinity" isn't just one more tool in the shop to bash men over the head with. They're always conspicuously missing whenever there's a huge contributor to their fantasy version of it though. Which also isn't that surprising, c…
/r/MensRights28/09/18 01:46 PM
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Not a lot of radical leftists giving their fortunes to the poor, either. Lots of demands for everyone else to give it all away though.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 01:36 PM
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The vast majority of them don't post here. It's reached the front page now, which means concern trolls have shown up en masse, and the mods have continuously refused to do anything about them.
/r/MensRights27/09/18 11:05 PM
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Even the "best" Feminists don't actually do any real activism. The vast majority of self-described Feminists only call themselves that because "it means equality!" It's just a good-boy tag. And by being so attached to it, and defending it at every possible turn, they serve as shields to the activist Feminists who are, overwhelmingly, misandrists.
/r/MensRights27/09/18 10:54 PM
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feminists will also say that those women are also enforcing 'toxic masculinity', since it can be enforced by both genders. Well, sort of. One of the "polite" Feminists might grant you this point because they're trying to occupy the conversation (the same way they'll grant "toxic femininity"), but it's only done in the moment and never actually enters mainstream Feminism. Pretty much any time a Feminist makes a concession, it's only a momentary thing. The most obvious case of this is when somebod…
/r/MensRights25/09/18 11:53 PM
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The term is a great example of feminism's terrible PR in appealing to men. If they called it 'the way in which men are socialized by society that is damaging to themselves and others' The fact that they don't despite the obvious connotation and lack of feminine equivalent should probably clue you in, honestly.
/r/MensRights25/09/18 11:39 PM
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I was wondering how far I'd have to scroll down to find the Feminist trying to dictate definitions to everyone else. You don't get to choose what a term means. Its definition comes from its use and the context in which it exists. The term "toxic masculinity" is used to describe behaviors which can be positive or negative, and there is a lack of specific, unique terminology for positive masculinity. There is a total lack of a feminine term that serves the same supposed purpose of "toxic masculini…
/r/MensRights25/09/18 11:09 PM
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"Due process" doesn't apply because it's not a court. Whether or not an issue is strictly a legal one does not absolve you of the responsibility to uphold the standards of fair treatment that we derived due process from. If you don't want to do that, you're free to fuck off to some shithole that shares your (lack of) values.
/r/MensRights25/09/18 05:37 AM
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Black women wanting to be independent Thanks for perfectly illustrating the issue (one which isn't restricted solely to one race). When women are narcissistic or selfish, even to the point of abusing others, it's portrayed as "strong and independent." There's nothing strong and independent about being an intolerable human being.
/r/MensRights24/09/18 02:48 AM
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KonoSuba. It's a parody of the "transported to another world" genre.
/r/MensRights21/09/18 06:15 AM
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They're not "us." They're an unbelievably tiny portion of the population, and not one of them considers them part of a male group looking out for male interests. Generally speaking, both men and women prefer to work for women.
/r/MensRights20/09/18 08:04 AM
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many self proclaimed feminists (whos ideals in many cases don't align with how we see modern day feminism) are our allies and not our enemies Ah yes, the invisible horde of Feminist allies who have just been waiting in the shadows for the last century to make a big push for the sake of men.
/r/MensRights17/09/18 04:52 AM
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How about this? Your preferences shouldn't dictate what irreversible alterations you make to my genitals without my consent. Fucking listen to yourself.
/r/MensRights17/09/18 03:43 AM
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We want to help, which is why we reframed harmful gender roles in a way that blames the victim.
/r/MensRights16/09/18 01:39 AM
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I dont think that's the natural state of affairs But the vast majority of male deaths on the job is, of course. When women don't advance in the workplace because they have different priorities, that's a problem. We need to analyze every minor detail. We need to create conspiratorial theories as to why it's happening, then either mold the evidence to fit the conclusion, or make it up wholesale. When civilization is almost (and sometimes, actually is) literally built on the corpses of men, who car…
/r/MensRights16/09/18 01:31 AM
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But usage of the term has become a toxic mess due both to air-headed feminists over-using it and to it triggering hysteria in MRAs because it's always just been a knee-jerk reaction by narcissistic women with easily bruised egos FTFY
/r/MensRights16/09/18 01:21 AM
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I've heard that suggested about this article, and I don't buy it in the slightest. The glee she felt writing that practically drips out of the monitor. She may even believe that she didn't mean it, but she sure enjoyed fantasizing about it, and it comes through. It strikes me as similar to the topic of a male curfew. They'll say it's "just a joke" or "a thought experiment," but boy, are they sure enthusiastic about it. And you get a lot of cheers and agreement in any case.
/r/MensRights15/09/18 11:15 PM
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saying that men wouldn't take it because they'd be unwilling to deal with the side effects I remember this. It was a few years ago. What happened was that the trials were intended to determine what side-effects their pill would have, and that trials were ended when they felt they had enough data to go back and work on the formula. The side-effects and the end of the trial once the side-effects were known was completely expected and planned for. That was the entire point. Naturally, that was twis…
/r/MensRights15/09/18 11:00 AM
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She's also advocating castration as a punishment for unwanted pregnancy: What would that look like? What if there was a real and immediate consequence for men who cause an unwanted pregnancy? What kind of consequence would make sense? Should it be as harsh, painful, nauseating, scarring, expensive, risky, and life-altering… … as forcing a woman to go through a 9-month unwanted pregnancy? In my experience, men really like their testicles. If irresponsible ejaculations were putting their balls at …
/r/MensRights15/09/18 06:56 AM
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You ever wonder how seemingly well-intentioned projects end up in the hands of hateful ideologues?
/r/MensRights12/09/18 08:04 AM
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The fact that the admins haven't stomped out Banout2018 and permabanned every single mod involved in it should tell you exactly where they stand. Hell, wouldn't be surprised if some of those mods were admin alts.
/r/MensRights12/09/18 06:06 AM
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The claims that "women are treated more harshly than men" is just another delusion. It is an incontrovertible fact that women, generally, are treated better than men. It's so hard to deny that academic Feminists didn't even bother (directly, anyways), instead trying to reframe it as a form of sexism against women.
/r/MensRights11/09/18 11:29 PM
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Here's a typical example of "misogyny." Basically, bruise the egos of a handful of fragile, insecure women, and you've committed a hate crime. Also worth noting that any opposition to Feminism whatsoever is characterized as misogyny. So, it would essentially be Feminist blasphemy laws.
/r/MensRights06/09/18 01:53 PM
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What's really telling isn't just that this is happening, but what the reaction is in places where opposition voices are drowned out. Once that happens, they stop trying to excuse shit like this with some politely-described voodoo magic interpretation of bogus statistics, and just go straight to mocking men who think it's unfair that they're being treated as lesser for having a dick. This isn't a random statement, obviously this topic is elsewhere online right now, and those other discussions are…
/r/MensRights01/09/18 01:25 AM
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I'm gonna borrow a quote from RLM here and say "You may not have noticed it, but your brain did." This isn't really Feminism in itself, it's just standard vagina worship. Feminism is functionally structured vagina worship, but run-of-the-mill worship isn't then also Feminism. Of course, it's not completely innocent either, since Feminism enables the mindset, it's just not itself a Feminist tenet.
/r/MensRights30/08/18 01:17 AM
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Most of men's duties are already largely men's duties, we just no longer recognize it as such. In fact, when men perform their duties, it's treated as lesser than when women perform their duties. Conveniently, the "pay gap" describes it pretty well. Men work harder and longer, and are paid more for it, but that work is treated as illegitimate because somebody divined it so out of chicken bones and tea stalks. So men still perform their duties as earners, but are treated as a problem for doing so…
/r/MensRights26/08/18 03:20 AM
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How fucking weak do you have to think men are that they fall apart unless they are handed their own special purpose defined specifically by it being exclusionary to women? That is the most intellectually dishonest way I have ever seen somebody spin "men need purpose to find value."
/r/MensRights26/08/18 02:32 AM
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The article in question that OP should have linked.
/r/MensRights18/08/18 02:21 AM
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Front page posts tend to get a lot of attention from people like you, so it's not surprising. I just don't get why you're such a hateful piece of shit. Like, what was it? Mommy beat you and now you're projecting?
/r/MensRights15/08/18 12:34 PM
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I've always wondered, what's actually wrong with your life that got you into concern trolling?
/r/MensRights15/08/18 12:26 PM
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I'm talking about you, genius. I'm pointing out your surprise at "what's happening to this sub" has apparently been a recurring theme with you. I'm guessing the concern over Russian trolls is mostly a projection on your part.
/r/MensRights15/08/18 12:07 PM
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This user has been concern trolling for at least 9 months. Mods really should start flairing them.
/r/MensRights15/08/18 11:02 AM
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Best of luck to you. Based on everything I've seen come out of Canada, you'll definitely need it.
/r/MensRights12/08/18 05:43 AM
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they come with built in rationalizations for the adherent to explain away evidence against their view and its only by considering that the whole system isn't describing reality that they have a shot of escape. actually listening to what men say they think rather than telling them, and trying empathy for a change To expand on this and put these two points together, they've already got ahead on this with "emotional labor." It's poorly defined and includes everything from keeping track of dates to …
/r/MensRights10/08/18 01:08 AM
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The mod who locked it has a bad track record on that front, so I doubt it.
/r/MensRights10/08/18 12:32 AM
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When men are harmed by society, it's actually sexism against women. You have negative value as a person. Go away.
/r/MensRights07/08/18 07:31 AM
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The article references another article, but the link is wrong. This is the actual article. The final paragraph sums it up pretty well: This isn’t about you, Michael Kimmel. This is about the future of our discipline. Your response to the allegations of sexual harassment against you will set precedence for how others accused behave. Your response shapes the culture of our discipline. It doesn't matter whether or not he did it, what matters is that he doesn't fight back even if he's innocent. He h…
/r/MensRights06/08/18 07:52 AM
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Pointing out racism against whites is white identity politics Well thanks for admitting you think that.
/r/MensRights06/08/18 03:43 AM
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If there is anything that defines "culture war," this is it. The most well known advocates for free speech in the west have been successfully turned away from free speech in pursuit of a leftist ideology. Eventually, you're gonna have to accept that free speech is dead and its corpse has been turned into a weapon to be used against you.
/r/MensRights06/08/18 12:32 AM
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This is one of the two big unholy unions of the far left that scares me. Progressives and Marxists have basically merged, so it's not just the Patriarchy or just a white supremacy or just capitalism, it's the Heteronormative Cis-gendered White Supremacist Capitalist Patriarchy. There's so many axes along which you can be a part of the oppressor class, most of which are immutable, incidental characteristics. It was bad enough when regular old Communists got power. This new type would be so much w…
/r/MensRights05/08/18 12:06 AM
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I'd say it's more along the lines of a dog whistle. It's not really so much to cover it up as it is to signal to others like them that they also hate white men and would like to see them suffer. Leftists love the term but it rarely pans out the way they describe it, so it's probably projection. They see dog whistles everywhere because they use them.
/r/MensRights04/08/18 12:11 PM
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Nah fuck off with that. That's playing by their rules. They're the ones who tried to turn "cunt" into the sexist version of "nigger," and you're only giving them power by acknowledging it as legitimate. It's not, and pretending it is has only gotten us with the fucking NYT supporting a racist, sexist cunt. It's time to call people like her what they are.
/r/MensRights03/08/18 11:33 PM
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This isn't political correctness. PC is when you think calling a woman "bossy" is unacceptable. This is hatred supported by a major news outlet.
/r/MensRights03/08/18 11:30 PM
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"Nobody is saying it's not okay to be white." The NYT is. Also, Reddit is, as /r/news deleted one thread and locked the other within hours of it going up.
/r/MensRights02/08/18 11:30 PM
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de facto Equity Feminists Oh boy it's this trick again. Define "Feminist" however you like, use that inaccurate definition to stake a claim on anyone half decent, and then use them as a shield for your ideology.
/r/MensRights02/08/18 08:25 AM
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At what point do the people responsible for the system become accessories to the crimes being committed?
/r/MensRights31/07/18 10:12 PM
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Leftists: "It's just a joke! No need to get upset!" Also leftists: "Even jokes can be harmful!" Also leftists: "Anyone on the right making a bad joke isn't actually joking, they're just covering up their true feelings!" Sounds like they've got a serious case of deflection to me.
/r/MensRights30/07/18 10:49 PM
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Alright, find those 145 statues, find how many of them are celebrating a man for his achievements, rank them based on relevance (Relevant only to NY? America? The world?), then find me the same number of equivalent female figures worthy of those positions. Being a self-righteous dickweed is easy when you don't have to prove anything. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is?
/r/MensRights30/07/18 04:28 AM
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Why don't you go write a piece about it on Jezebel? You sound like you'd fit right in there.
/r/MensRights29/07/18 09:55 PM
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Falls back on "bitter angry men" Every time, without fail, Feminists are trash.
/r/MensRights29/07/18 09:46 PM
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Bullshit. In 20 years, people like you are going to claim the exact same thing about Feminism now. You'll conveniently ignore every bad thing Feminism has done and point to some invented Feminism that has not and never will exist. You'll be pointing to the widespread drugging of boys and their failure in school as "partly misogyny" and the world will keep on making room for you misandrist shitheads. Fuck off.
/r/MensRights29/07/18 09:37 PM
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I am not seeing how that makes them evil. Then you don't know anything about it. They hate white men. In their eyes, no white man can have anything without having stolen it from somebody else. Why the fuck would you expect me to work with somebody who believes my existence is a problem?
/r/MensRights28/07/18 11:20 PM
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grounded in academic intersectional gender studies, This is a big part of it.
/r/MensRights28/07/18 05:13 AM
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This is how I know you only come here to concern troll.
/r/MensRights27/07/18 11:12 PM
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It's not called "Masculism" you fucking mouthbreather.
/r/MensRights27/07/18 11:03 PM
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"Masculism" isn't even a group or movement. Fuck off back to 2x.
/r/MensRights27/07/18 10:42 PM
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Which they will do no matter what evidence you provide. They don't believe it because they followed some logical path there, they believe it because they believe it. You can't fix that, you can't argue it, you can't do anything about it. It's a lost cause to try to "fix" Feminism.
/r/MensRights27/07/18 10:34 PM
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they thought that it was a meeting for misogynists You're not getting it. They're the ones who labeled it as misogynistic in the first place. Feminists weren't duped, they were the ones doing it.
/r/MensRights27/07/18 10:23 PM
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Then go bitch at them. Coddling people like you is how we got to this point in the first place.
/r/MensRights24/07/18 12:38 AM
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inb4 NAFALT, it's just Tumblr, etc. This is what the ideological basis of intersectional Feminism looks like when you strip away all the bullshit. Every white male has white privilege and male privilege. No exceptions, no losing it, no making up for it. It'll be stuck to you forever, and any "good" Feminist trying to make a difference in the world will try to compensate for it.
/r/MensRights20/07/18 09:27 PM
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FYI nobody who hated men prior to you posted this changed their mind because of it. Everyone sane already knows exactly what the criticisms are, they just pretend not to know because it interferes with their hate, and the rest are delusional to the point that they're impossible to talk to anyways.
/r/MensRights08/07/18 10:30 PM
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I think it's pretty obvious why nobody has dug further. There was obviously some sort of inquisition. Off the books, against their own procedures, they pulled him aside and told him he was an awful, evil person, then punished him for it. No questions were asked, because these journalists know exactly what happened and don't want to let the public know. It's that simple.
/r/MensRights06/07/18 11:56 AM
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Guys need to try way harder to get into a relationship Nearly all of the onus of starting and maintaining a relationship is already on men. What more can you possibly expect them to do?
/r/MensRights02/07/18 10:16 PM
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The deep irony about the obsession with the acceptable targets for misandry ("creeps," "nice guys," and "incels") is that they're all based in the rabid enforcement of male gender roles, despite those being most obsessed with those targets claiming to be against the enforcement of gender roles. "Creeps" are acceptable targets because they don't approach women with the proper respect. This is such a faux pas that they won't just imply that such men are awkward or annoying, but that they're danger…
/r/MensRights30/06/18 11:15 PM
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Because there are pretty shitty aspects of the cultural expectations for men as well. Like being expected to accept that people will shit on them while being told it's supposed to help. The constant attempts to ram that definition down our throats is a form of gaslighting. The actual use of the term is painfully obvious to anyone paying attention. You're nothing but an enabler and you're not wanted here.
/r/MensRights28/06/18 07:05 AM
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"Toxic masculinity doesn't mean all masculinity is bad" is the "I don't hate black people, I hate niggers" of gender politics.
/r/MensRights27/06/18 09:36 PM
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The phrase toxic masculinity doesn't mean all masculinity is toxic you ninnies. A Feminist said it, so it must be true!
/r/MensRights27/06/18 09:22 PM
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Likewise, toxic masculinity isn't an indictment of all masculinity. next time some dipshit defending "toxic masculinity" denies that proponents of the idea deny men positive masculine traits. Well, thanks for demonstrating how we can have negative masculine traits but no positive masculine traits. Didn't have to go far for that one, I guess.
/r/MensRights11/06/18 04:13 AM
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Virtue isn't gendered. Heroism, pettiness, dishonesty, compassion; none of these acts are made any greater or lesser because the person committing them is a man or a woman. If you don't mind, I'm gonna quote this next time some dipshit defending "toxic masculinity" denies that proponents of the idea deny men positive masculine traits.
/r/MensRights11/06/18 03:13 AM
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men dont talk about their feelings "I feel that you're unfairly placing the blame of all of society's ills at me feet and not treating me like a human." "give me more male tears incel lol"
/r/MensRights10/06/18 07:52 AM
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professor of sociology and director of the Women’s, Gender, and Sexuality Studies Program at Northeastern University Washington Post "It's just a few crazies! They're not relevant! Stop giving them attention!"
/r/MensRights10/06/18 03:56 AM
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There's always some fucking excuse.
/r/MensRights02/06/18 10:25 PM
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Yeah, that's called making a post. When a moderator uses their authority to amplify the post, that's moderator approval.
/r/MensRights18/05/18 01:39 AM
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Stickying it implies moderator approval. Guess next time somebody claims this place is nothing but angry men, they can just point to the fact that even the moderators must have thought so, since they stickied this post. After all, how bad must a community be if the mods sticky a post calling them out?
/r/MensRights17/05/18 12:32 PM
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Finally, at the risk of being called a concern troll, maybe consider toning down the self-righteousness a bit. You're commenting on a stickied thread from some prick who has done nothing but make passive-aggressive, self-righteous comments for two fucking weeks. You're gonna get on my case for that? How about you fuck off?
/r/MensRights17/05/18 06:06 AM
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Really? Because, in case you didn't notice, you guys have stickied a post intended to police behavior, and one of your mods has outright said it was stickied because this sub is apparently too much like MGTOW.
/r/MensRights17/05/18 12:47 AM
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The issues that lead to MGTOW are men's issues. Of course there's going to be some overlap, particularly when the issues that lead to MGTOW have been politicized. especially since I'm likely to be called names for stickying this. Maybe that should clue you in? It's not your job to herd men into your particular idea of acceptable behavior. If your response to that is dismissal, maybe you're just not fit to be a moderator.
/r/MensRights17/05/18 12:40 AM
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That's nothing but self-serving nonsense. The impossible goal of changing just one Feminist's mind won't matter if you strengthen the position of five others. The only people who you can even begin to influence are the unaffiliated, and you're not going to change their minds by kowtowing to Feminist standards of discourse. You're more concerned with coming off as non-confrontational, which would already be a misplaced value in its own right if it wasn't also harmful in the long run.
/r/MensRights16/05/18 12:48 PM
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There was that incident years ago when Karen tried to do some AMA with a bunch of Feminists. After answering, the mods of that subreddit deleted all her comments, and the users invented awful quotes to reply to, in order to make the MRM seem like some kind of cartoonish evil.
/r/MensRights16/05/18 11:33 AM
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And this is why I'm not accommodating to Feminists wandering in here. You know damn well how that has gone. You just don't want to take any responsibility for it.
/r/MensRights16/05/18 11:27 AM
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The only people I've seen sarcastically refer to themselves are shills are actual shills or people who should never be in a position of authority. If you think this is serious, take it seriously, don't fuck around. Concern trolling, particularly the line "this sub has been awful recently," has been omnipresent since day fucking 1. It's the undying strategy to undermine this sub and turn it into the wishy-washy, Feminist-friendly bullshit that would immediately devolve into MensLib. You should kn…
/r/MensRights16/05/18 11:23 AM
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You will never earn the respect or the friendship of Feminists. They will scream high and low about how much they really want to do something for men, but they will always, without exception find a way to turn you back into a monster. And most of all, they will never confront the Feminists embedded in western institutions for their misandry and gynocentrism. Feminists are not, and will never be useful to men or the MRM. It's not even useless to be nice and accommodating for Feminists, it's harmf…
/r/MensRights16/05/18 11:03 AM
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I made a pretty long comment on this a while back, but I'll just give you the crux of it: Men have value for what they do and therefore must face danger, women have value for what they are and therefore cannot be allowed to face danger. Respectively, that's male disposability and female infantilization, which results in male hyperagency (men are expected to do everything and are responsible for everything) and female hypoagency (women are expected to do nothing and are responsible for nothing). …
/r/MensRights14/05/18 07:57 AM
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There's practically entire fucking books on why Feminism and the MRM are incompatible. It's not like it spent decades demonstrating how it will invade institutions across the western world to implement anti-male laws and policies! If you want to whine and bitch about how awful men are, why don't you fuck off to literally anywhere else?
/r/MensRights02/05/18 09:13 PM
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So basically, Why do all these meanies keep going after my pet ideology?? It's not like it spent decades demonstrating how it will invade institutions across the western world to implement anti-male laws and policies! Why can't men just stop whining and take responsibility??
/r/MensRights01/05/18 10:29 PM
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I'm by no means a defender of the mainstream media, but how they contact people isn't really up to them, it's how people make themselves available. I'd be willing to bet she doesn't have a landline with an answering machine, that's for sure.
/r/MensRights16/04/18 05:29 AM
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Reminder that since last November, Twitter has treated verification as endorsement. Any views espoused by a checkmark should be treated as Twitter's.
/r/MensRights14/04/18 09:49 AM
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Guy who has never commented here before shows up to say how bad the sub is and is leaving I don't even have to look at the post score to know this is a /r/MensRights post with more than 150 points. One of you shows up every time, it literally has not failed once in 5 years.
/r/MensRights10/04/18 10:12 PM
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That's not really a "source" question as it is an "explain" question. You're not going to find any academic literature on this subject because it's extremely taboo, for reasons that should be obvious once I explain. Basically, Feminism's explanation of traditional roles were that women were oppressed and men were oppressors. This is a horrible oversimplification at best, and completely inaccurate at worst. Men have value for what they do and therefore must face danger, women have value for what …
/r/MensRights29/03/18 07:48 AM
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Let me explain to windowlickers like you and /u/00saucy00 why, exactly, it matters who suffers most. The narrative around sexism for the last century has been "women have it worse" which has been the entire justification for the supposed liberation of women. That idea, to this day, is believed by almost everyone in western civilization, despite it being false by nearly every metric. When one of you tone policing dipshits shows up, all you're really doing is telling people who are talking about m…
/r/MensRights29/03/18 04:00 AM
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Looks like it didn't take long for you to out yourself, did it?
/r/MensRights29/03/18 03:54 AM
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You fucking losers have had a century to solve this and you didn't. | There's a third option you are willfully choosing to ignore Congratulations on being an illiterate retard.
/r/MensRights23/03/18 09:15 PM
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you feel you have been personally wronged in some way. Like the government sending you an 18th birthday present in the form of a card which says "we own your life, sign here to acknowledge it?" You fucking losers have had a century to solve this and you didn't. So, either you want fairness and women get to sign that card too, or you admit that you just don't care that society literally owns men's lives. Pick one you shithead.
/r/MensRights23/03/18 01:16 PM
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I'm saying that historically men's issues were taken seriously while women's weren't. Male disposability is older than humans. It's practically a defining trait of the male sex. Every single civilization on this planet has reinforced it. You could even argue that it's the foundation of men's issues altogether. Don't really see a lot of Feminists marching to solve the imbalance on who dies for the sake of society though.
/r/MensRights19/03/18 01:45 AM
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and glad to be so. Good for you. I'm not. If either of us had a choice, both of us could have gotten what we wanted. Bodily integrity is one of the foundations of human rights. You being glad you had part of your dick chopped off doesn't even come close to making it okay that I had part of mine chopped off without my consent.
/r/MensRights19/03/18 12:20 AM
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My experiences with the mods of that sub have been: The draft is sexist against women, not men. False rape accusations don't matter and probably don't even happen. So no surprise there.
/r/MensRights15/03/18 08:01 AM
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Well, you might not be a moron, you could also be a liar. Feminists have been lying about their motivations for decades. Not like it would be unusual or anything. For the record, my guess is that it's probably a bit of both.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 03:26 PM
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Yeah, I'm sure they would be, if it weren't for whatever mysterious magical force prevents them from actually doing so. I sure do wish we could destroy that mystical field that only allows them to comment on men's issues in order to police how men talk about men's issues.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 03:16 PM
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Feminist claims that everything they do and say is pure and righteous. Surprise! I'll believe you had some super special gender studies class where they totally didn't demonize men the day you fucks start also following through on that "Feminism means equality" bullshit you all spew.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 03:07 PM
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Today? "Harmful gender roles." Which are sourced from the Patriarchy, naturally. You used to see the term "internalized misogyny" a lot but it seems to have vanished for some mysterious reason. I bet it has nothing to do with the accusatory phrasing or anything.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 02:05 PM
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because it doesn't have anything to do with feminists either. Term invented by Feminist academics to (supposedly) describe a phenomenon within a Feminist context has nothing to do with Feminists. Ok friendo.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 02:02 PM
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Oh look, the noble defender of Feminism is using a gendered stereotype to attack their opponent. What a surprise! That certainly convinces me that your spiel about toxic masculinity isn't a cover for your real attitude.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 10:36 AM
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Nah, this is me dealing with them. Bit tired of pretending that you and your kind are anything except evil. I spelled out the stupid shit you're doing and your response was faux-pity condescension. How could you be anything except evil? I figure the least I can do is be a bit rude to you in hopes that you'll fuck off and stop being a problem.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 10:30 AM
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Yeah man I'm totally the one going out of my way to make things worse for men. I'm the one who showed up to a space full of men who have been told repeatedly that they're evil and broken, and then tried to justify why they were told that, and that they weren't actually told that and everything they've been told didn't happen. Yup, that was me. Maybe if people like you spent a little bit less time righteously shouting over men and spent a bit more time listening to them, men wouldn't have quite s…
/r/MensRights10/03/18 10:25 AM
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Yeah I'm sure the voting trends are natural. Not that it matters. Just keep fighting the good fight in the defense of your bullshit justification for the hatred of men while they keep killing themselves. It's not like you ever saw them as people anyways.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 10:07 AM
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I guess if you haven't been around long you wouldn't have heard, but brigading is the open secret of Reddit, particularly if the subreddit getting brigaded stands in opposition to any social justice ideology. The voting trends are blatant, but the admins don't like subs like these, so they don't do anything about it. It's been going on for years and it's just been accepted as the way things are now.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 10:02 AM
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Yeah well go tell them that, not us.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 09:39 AM
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But no, let's stop at the name and ignore the concept itself. The "true definition" is a lie. It is a falsehood constructed with the intention of deflecting blame. Toxic masculinity means whatever the hell it needs to mean at the moment in order to attack masculinity. If you don't want that to be the case, then fucking act like it rather than trying to tell people that everything they've read and heard on the subject just outright didn't happen.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 09:38 AM
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So is your claim that "toxic masculinity" isn't just a term used to pathologize masculinity, shrouded in sophistry. Since we're both making baseless assertions, why don't you fuck off back to whatever shithole you crawled out of and make your baseless assertions there? Not making this one any better, that's for sure.
/r/MensRights10/03/18 09:34 AM
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Well it's a good thing somebody showed up to remind us that we need to really talk about the women. Good jolly gee, I almost forgot that even though more men kill themselves, we can't have a proper conversation about it, or society's complete and total disinterest in the problem, without talking about those noble vagina wielders first. Let's just sweep all those male corpses under the rug so we can have a discussion about the real victims here.
/r/MensRights28/02/18 01:22 AM
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Given reason? Because he's "a fraud pseudo-intellectual." Real reason? Because he's reaffirmed that young men actually have some value as young men. Whether they'll admit it or not, his opponents absolutely hate when young men believe they're worth something. Young men have to be sufficiently beaten and derided into submission so that they'll make the appropriate sacrifices that everyone else is entitled to, and if they believe their lives actually have some value, that system goes out the windo…
/r/MensRights24/02/18 11:54 PM
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If being allowed to express emotions that aren’t rage or pride is “feminizing them to be girls,” Just FYI, you're being downvoted because you're presenting rage and pride as the only alternatives to feminization. That attitude is exactly why we say that boys are treated as defective girls and that masculinity is being pathologized.
/r/MensRights23/02/18 04:25 AM
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That's not from 1993, it's from 1974/1977 depending on where you read it, and most likely, it was an accident when writing the proposal. They incorrectly referenced part of another legal document, and when the proposal was published, whoever wrote it quoted the referenced section. The intent was to reference age differences in statutory rape cases.
/r/MensRights20/02/18 09:19 AM
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Always a shame to see unnecessarily devisive stuff like this. Yeah, as opposed to stuff like the Duluth model. Obviously a snarky image on a subreddit nobody in power gives a shit about is the concerning divisive force in our society, and not the one that empowers legal gender discrimination justified by falsehoods.
/r/MensRights19/02/18 03:49 PM
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It is possible to want positive messages for men and also not want those messages to hurt women. Everything I've seen suggests otherwise. You can't even ask why men kill themselves more often than women without asshats like you showing up asking what they plan to do for women.
/r/MensRights10/02/18 11:41 PM
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The last thing men need is somebody who only cares about how the positive messages towards them affect women. Young men need to hear something positive for once, so either you do it in a way that doesn't offend your delicate sensibilities, or fuck off and defend the gilded vagina throne somewhere else.
/r/MensRights10/02/18 01:55 AM
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Then you go out of your way to make some much-needed positive statements to men, rather than coming here and telling them they're doing it wrong.
/r/MensRights10/02/18 01:02 AM
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It's not this sub. Every single time this sub hits /r/all, it's flooded with "what about the women?"
/r/MensRights10/02/18 01:01 AM
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This is a "the narrative around gender today is that men are the root cause of evil so maybe let's tell men they're good and useful for fucking once" thing.
/r/MensRights10/02/18 12:58 AM
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38 | /r/all Yeah no you don't.
/r/MensRights10/02/18 12:55 AM
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Because Twitter endorses it. At least, that's what they decided when they supposed changed the rules for how verification works. So, my suggestion is to hold them to it. When a Blue Checkmark says something like that, it's just as much Twitter saying it as it is the individual.
/r/MensRights31/12/17 10:17 AM
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Why is this the image you want? It was a response to this.
/r/MensRights04/12/17 01:58 AM
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Who cares? Even the most tame and isolated discussions of men's issues attracts the exact same bullshit. This isn't new. There's no point in trying to placate you people. You're hostile, you decided to be hostile before you even showed up, and you were going to find an excuse one way or another.
/r/MensRights04/12/17 01:46 AM
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We don’t want to put the ones that are striving towards positive equality in with those who are male-bashing, those are two separate groups. These aren't the groups though. The simplest way to think about it is that self-proclaimed feminism can be described by two dimensions: How educated they are on feminism and gendered issues, and how much of an activist they are. The vast majority of self-proclaimed feminists are neither educated on these matters, nor are they activists in any sense of the w…
/r/MensRights02/12/17 06:36 AM
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I don't even have to check if this post hit the front page to know it has, just based on the downvotes this comment got. A lot of naive people who don't get it.
/r/MensRights02/12/17 06:01 AM
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The welfare state, as small as it is, isn't meant to be a perfect solution in itself, it's meant to prevent the problem from getting considerably worse. Reduced-cost housing won't keep families together, give kids positive male role models, keep kids in school, and create the opportunities that makes school worthwhile. That's something that has to come from generations of social development within those communities, without destructive interference, be it CIA with cocaine in the 80s or far-left …
/r/MensRights27/11/17 05:45 AM
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Telling people to just stop having kids is clearly not working nor is it a practical solution, and why would it be? Between ancestors with a powerful sex drive and those without, who do you think your genes came from? If it were something humans could easily do, religious devotees wouldn't need to lock themselves in cloisters and mountain temples to achieve it.
/r/MensRights27/11/17 05:02 AM
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